[12:31] then nss and nspr should be in gutsy [12:31] maybe i we need to give back nss one more time :) [12:47] nss is not yet [12:47] nspr is -0d-dev and 0d\ [12:47] or something like that [12:51] 4-dev & -0d [12:51] yeah [12:52] lets see if nss respins automatically [12:52] at least launchpad shows that depedency wait is not true anymore [12:52] if smart new build attempt will follow :/ [12:53] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss/3.11.5-3 [12:53] great is building [12:53] at least on amd64 and i64 [12:53] nice ;) [12:53] tomorrow things can go up :) [12:54] lets see how hell's coming :) [12:54] hmmm again dependency wait :/ [12:57] :) === asac night [01:18] have a nice trip gnomefreak [01:22] night === [Cade] [n=[Cade] @adsl-35-6-219.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:37] <[Cade] > hmm - what else is holding Firefox and TB updates up? I saw libnspr and libhunspell have updates now =D [05:38] define updates? [05:38] err updates* [05:40] <[Cade] > they have updates in the gutsy repos [05:41] i'm not sure I know what your question is [05:42] <[Cade] > ah - I'm referring to FF update and TB2 for gutsy [05:42] <[Cade] > ;) [05:43] <[Cade] > mainly because the updated version of libhunspell breaks the current ff packages [05:43] <[Cade] > just as a note, here's the relevant packages that got upgrades: libnspr4-0d libnspr4-0d-dbg libstdc++6 hunspell-1.1.0 libhunspell-1.1.0 [05:44] ah its probably because our packaging people aren't at their computers [05:44] <[Cade] > :P [05:45] <[Cade] > I've been chomping at the bit ever since TB2 was released. I'm just so fed up with Evo :/ [05:54] i need to try evolution, i heard it can handle outlook or something like that [05:54] you could build the binary [05:54] err install [05:55] <[Cade] > I'm a fan of font-rendering patches =P === sanityx [n=sanityx@pool-68-160-199-176.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:09] Anybody know of a way to sync Palm contacts with Thunderbird? === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:36] ! [08:36] doh === sanityx [n=sanityx@pool-68-160-199-176.ny325.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam ["Ex-Chat"] [10:05] [Cade] : we need a few packages in first before we can spin against gutsy [10:05] they started pouring in late yesterday [10:07] [Cade] : should be fixed in next day or 2 (depending on any problems that arise) [10:16] so did nss build? [10:22] not here yet [10:23] i just did updates for gutsy and not yet. im setting up for iceape build incase it comes in in time. [10:35] hmm ... ok nspr ended up in universe (e.g. just the binaries) [10:35] so nss didn't build because source was in main as well [10:35] should be fixed now [10:35] why universe? [10:36] but takes some time until builders do i [10:36] error by the one processing the NEW binaries [10:36] the source is in main [10:36] i dont expect to spin it before i leave but would have been nice [10:36] but it should be fixed now [10:37] asac: congrats on reviewer status ;) [10:37] he? [10:37] ah ;) [10:39] Bug 50768 .. is it fixed now? [10:39] Launchpad bug 50768 in firefox "Strange artifacts in text fields within web applications when moving cursor with keyboard" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50768 [10:41] not sure thats the first time ive seen that [10:41] yeah just read the last comment which ended up in my inbox [10:42] looks like its not firefox [10:42] its upstream bug [10:42] from what it shows [10:42] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345438 [10:42] Mozilla bug 345438 in Layout "Moving cursor back/forward in all forms and in the location bar leaves caret turds (with nv video driver installed)" [Normal,New] [10:42] is the workaround in bugzilla?` [10:43] is bugzilla reporter same as ubuntu reporter? [10:43] and no patch yet [10:43] no [10:44] unless they use a different nick in LP and mozilla bugtracker [10:54] workaround [10:54] is in bug [10:54] why i said its fixed for us :) [11:37] asac: do i need to learn dput for revu or am i gonna put sources somewhere else? [11:40] hmmm [11:40] good idea :) [11:40] e.g. to upload to revu [11:40] yes then use dput or dupload [11:40] later you will push that way to preview archive as well [11:40] e.g. as soon as we have incoming processing [11:45] k [11:46] i will see if i can find docs on it than [11:54] hmm we get more and more @gtk_widget_event_internal now [11:54] feisty? [11:55] bug 94749 is master [11:55] Launchpad bug 94749 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_widget_event_internal] " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94749 [11:55] we have way too many bugs with @gtk_* :( [11:55] yeah ;) [11:56] mozilla projects need some gtk experts :) [11:56] which they lack [11:56] yeah finall libnspr4-dev is in main [11:56] at least on my mirror [11:56] thanks god === gnomefreak checking update [11:57] asac == gtk expert no? ;) [11:58] hehe [11:58] i can code gtk ;) ... but i am far away from being a gtk core developer :) [11:58] gtk is a lang? i thought it was just widgets [11:59] a lib [11:59] like python+gtk [11:59] a widget toolkit library [11:59] gtk+ is C [11:59] oh [11:59] and there are several bindings for other languages [11:59] e.g. like python-gtk +perl-gtk [11:59] yuck @ C [11:59] et al === gnomefreak hasnt played with C in years [12:00] C is great ;) [12:01] python is easier (from what i hear) i dropped C for python and than got too busy to learn python === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:06] hey hjmf :) [12:06] welcome [12:07] hello [12:08] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/uds-sevilla/ [12:08] schedule? [12:08] maybe you find something interesting :) [12:08] awesome === ajmitch looks at what he shoudl attend [12:09] might change a bit ... but main tracks should be rather fixed now [12:09] hmm it's too far from my house [12:09] oh, definitely ubuntu server forum :) [12:09] are you traveling ? === ajmitch just put in an application to hr@canonical for server stuff [12:09] i will be there :) [12:09] probably no chance of getting it, but oh well :) [12:09] there is Bug/Crash reporting forum on thursday morning :) [12:10] I see you're in the server track, asac [12:10] I've merged together all those [@gtk_widget_event_internal] [@??] [12:10] probably the same crash [12:11] hjmf: yeah ... you know when this first popped up? recently? [12:11] ajmitch: yeah ;) [12:11] couple of weeks maybe, not sure [12:12] will be video live/recorded sessions at UDS-Sevilla? [12:13] ok so probably gtk+ update for latest gnome [12:13] asac: will look [12:13] hjmf: hmm i have no idea ;) [12:13] they haven't been in the past [12:13] too much equipment to setup [12:13] what a pitty! :( [12:13] sessions aren't really that interesting by video [12:14] since it's usually people sitting round a table discussing [12:14] or crammed into a room somehow [12:14] I see [12:14] maybe some video feed from the pool :) [12:14] haha [12:14] there's a pool there? [12:14] I thought it would be more like a conference, then discussion [12:14] nah [12:15] :) [12:15] it's nearly all discussion & spec sessions [12:15] ah [12:15] "intense" [12:15] good luck then ... [12:15] :) === ajmitch is used to it by now ;) [12:15] gnomefreak: libnss is in gutsy ... lets go :) [12:16] excellent === ajmitch updates FDS packaging [12:17] asac: about the gtk_widget_event_internal there were some reports before, but the last *bunch* is from last week of april [12:17] till now [12:17] hmm ... feisty? [12:18] yes [12:19] the last 7 are from feisty [12:20] but we have edgy as well? [12:21] sure, the master is from edgy [12:22] but the last ones are all from feisty (probably because of dissabling apport in edgy) [12:22] ... not all, the last one is from edgy (bug 111875) [12:22] Launchpad bug 111875 in firefox "[EDGY] firefox crashed [@gtk_widget_event_internal] [@ ??] [@vtable for nsDOMConstructor at #12] (dup-of: 94749)" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111875 [12:22] Launchpad bug 94749 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_widget_event_internal] " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94749 [12:23] 6:1 feisty:edgy since last week of april [12:23] hmm ... isn't apport disabled for feisty as well now? [12:23] not sure, probably [12:24] I don't have crashes Ubuntu rocks :-P [12:27] /etc/default/apport [12:27] # set this to 0 to disable apport [12:27] enabled=1 [12:27] but I guess that ^^^ is not what I had to look [12:29] i don't know [12:29] i would think so [12:29] but it doesn't work for me iirc :) [12:29] I think that that sets apport to collect crashes [12:30] but to auto-upload there must be another setting somewhere [12:30] mine is set to 1 but still never gives me the dialog. i meant to ping pitti about it but i keep forgeting [12:31] yes, it might be this one though: [12:32] gconf-editor: /apps/update-notifier/show_apport_crashes false [12:32] ah right [12:32] f this is disabled, the user will not be notified about pending apport crash reports. [12:32] probably thats the one [12:32] it's disabled on feisty [12:33] so thats why we are able to reduce bug count :) [12:33] not bad ;) [12:33] yeah! [12:33] well thats not good [12:33] I can see your point gnomefreak [12:33] 609 open bugs :) [12:33] pretty nice [12:34] he gave me command to turn it on [12:34] :) [12:34] 1291 with dupes [12:34] and most of them can be close too [12:34] of the 609 ? [12:34] closed* [12:34] yes [12:35] gconftool-2 -s --type boolean /apps/update-notifier/show_apport_crashes true [12:35] I meant many not most [12:35] yeah ;) [12:35] to turn on dialog [12:35] oh you already said tha :( [12:35] :) [12:36] we can always have for fun the mess on mozilla-thunderbird reports [12:36] yes ... we probably shouldn't ignore them anymore [12:37] do retraces work? [12:37] yes [12:37] or are dbgsym packages still broken? [12:37] ah ok [12:37] I still using mines, but apport retracing service can handle them too [12:37] so dbgsyms are OK now [12:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/71131 [12:37] Launchpad bug 71131 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird crashes if you change Gnome theme while it is running" [High,Needs info] [12:37] can you confirm this? [12:38] e.g. thats without totem apparently ;) [12:38] but sounds like our totem crash ;) [12:38] that looks like same issue with firefox [12:38] maybe its the initial theme crasher ... for which we have a patch in firefox [12:38] tryin gnow [12:39] trying now even [12:39] a crash report on that one would have been nice [12:39] failed to crash with 2.0 [12:39] gnomefreak: yes ... the patch i was refering to landed for 2.0 [12:39] ah [12:40] hjmf: do your retrace scripts work for tbird as well .... like on bug 72160 [12:40] Launchpad bug 72160 in mozilla-thunderbird "TB crashed while writing reply email" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72160 [12:40] ? [12:40] will tell you in a couple of minutes === gnomefreak wonders what we fixed [12:44] asac: you can check [12:44] it worked [12:44] though I still have broken the autopost stuff [12:44] so I have to do it manually [12:45] hjmf: i looked into backtrace stuff ... the code that the retrace service uses is in apport bzr [12:46] i found the place where the top 5 stack elements are extracted [12:46] yes, I borrowed from they some time ago. [12:46] I have to check what had changed [12:46] so probably almost all is there already ... do we see summaries of stacks retraced by service? [12:47] but HTMLOperations.Bug is still the same that it was yesterday [12:47] and then it worked [12:48] the apport service only shows the first 3-4 stacks and we need from the 4th to the 7th as the fist three are always the same on most of the cases [12:49] hmmm ... if that is true for non mozilla packages as well, we should probably try to fix it there [12:50] that can be changed easily by you or pitty on report['StacktraceTop'] [12:50] from apport [12:50] yes ... we should look how other traces look like ... maybe we can try to better detect where to start. [12:51] what has to be changed i believe that is at apport/report.py [12:52] yes i think so ... iirc [12:52] yes, nowadays is StacktraceTop: simplified stacktrace (topmost 5 functions) for inline === asac searching for apport on ubuntu distribution to find other retraces [12:52] and it should include 3 or 4 more [12:53] Changing toptrace = [''] * 5 for toptrace = [''] * 9 [12:53] might do it [12:53] though It is just the first sight [12:54] hmmm ... i can talk to pitti [12:54] with that we can handle both the usual stacktrace and those w/o the 3# if you run apport locally ... do you see the StacktraceTop results as well? [12:55] yeah [12:55] mozilla is a bit special because they catch signals on their own [12:55] maybe at some point packages can ship infos about "where does stacktrace start" [12:55] ... I don't run apport as it should, I'm still at apport 0.61 [12:55] but maybe just using 9 is ok as well [12:55] hjmf: ouch :) [12:56] yes with 9 it will be OK [12:56] on my retraces I use by default from 3 to 12 [12:56] but 0-9 will be ok too [12:56] afaik latest apport should be usable as the good old 0.61 ... but what can i say :) ? [12:56] not tested [12:57] that's another thing I want to do [12:57] use current apport [12:57] but as long as old roks to me I've been a little bit lazy [12:57] at best use it from bzr :) [12:57] so you can contribute best to development [12:57] will have to, sure [01:02] hey you are bughelper-dev as well :) [01:02] welcome [01:08] haha yes! :P [01:12] asac: can you do me a quick favor [01:13] depends :) ... but I'll try [01:13] I'm stuck with this error with all my autopost routines [01:13] can you fire up python and [01:13] type [01:13] >>> from launchpadBugs.HTMLOperations import Bug [01:13] >>> bugnumber = 104533 [01:13] >>> cookiefile="/home/hjmf/.mozilla/firefox/oicl0ue1.default/cookies.txt" [01:13] >>> bug = Bug(bugnumber, cookie_file=cookiefile) [01:13] >>> bug.get_metadata() [01:13] >>> bug.__dict__['tags'] =['mt-confirm'] [01:13] >>> bug.set_metadata() [01:13] of course changing your cookie file [01:14] with that bug number [01:15] i get [01:15] > [01:15] now what? [01:15] should this have updated the bug? [01:15] bug 104533 [01:15] Launchpad bug 104533 in firefox "firefox crashed" [Undecided,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104533 [01:15] yes it works for you [01:16] are you using the last bzr merge? [01:16] yeah [01:16] thank you [01:16] no ... i just used what is here on my system [01:16] nss hit [01:16] I'll will work on this later [01:16] so it is my fault somewher [01:16] e [01:16] in universe though [01:17] hmm [01:17] ok [01:18] for seamonkey source do i want the tar.gz or the bz2? i cant remember :( [01:18] rules doesnt say [01:18] cy all till this evening [01:18] hjmf: have fun [01:20] yeah bye hjmf [01:20] gnomefreak: he? [01:20] whatever is released upstream as "source" [01:20] i see both [01:20] ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1.1 [01:20] in source? [01:21] File: seamonkey-1.1.1.source.tar.bz2 34176 KB 02/22/2007 02:15:00 PM [01:21] File: seamonkey-1.1.1.source.tar.gz [01:21] it doesn't matter [01:21] k [01:21] as you have to extract it on your own [01:21] then build your own orig out of if [01:21] it [01:22] and than i can just run dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -kKEYID? than dput the .changes file? === gnomefreak will more than likely get to it around sat. or sun. [01:27] yes [01:27] should work that way [01:28] e.g. you don't need -kKEYID [01:28] if you are the last in changelog [01:28] which you probably should [01:28] and remember to use ubuntu version [01:28] oh ok [01:28] yeah 1.1.1-3ubuntu0 [01:28] e.g. version that is lower than the debian one [01:28] debians is 1.1.1-3 iirc [01:28] if debian was 1.1.1-3 ... then we use 1.1.1-2ubuntu0 [01:29] oh [01:29] if we used wrong version in preview [01:29] then we have bad luck [01:29] and preview customers won't get an upgrade to official [01:29] let me check changelog [01:29] but i don't think we have to bother about them :) [01:29] we should fix that as soon as debian uses a new version [01:30] until then preview users just have the preview build :) [01:30] iceape (1.1.1-3) unstable; urgency=low is the last from Mike [01:30] we just added .mt0 to the end [01:30] gnomefreak: i am really not sure atm [01:30] maybe ask on motu :) [01:30] e.g. what version to choose so that merge-o-matic and stuff like that works [01:31] ok ill ping one of them when i get home or maybe monday the latest [01:31] maybe its indeed 1.1.1-3ubuntu0 [01:31] i can see benifits from both :) [01:31] ok [01:32] since its the same as in preview that should be fine. we can bump preview when new version goes in [01:32] preview == unofficial is how i came up with that but i will ask them when i return [01:35] just ask what the right version for ubuntu merge is if 1.1.1-3 is debian version [01:35] that will give you an answer :) [01:37] ok nss should be in main on next push [01:37] we can then probably drop it from gutsy preview archive [01:59] should i drop the mt versions from changelog? [02:05] for upload to revu? [02:05] yeah [02:06] you can keep them if there are important infos ... or merge all content into your "new" changelog entry [02:07] ok merging them into one would be good :) [02:07] im getting a couple of differnet answers on versioning [02:21] which? [02:22] you have changes: new upstream tarball ;) [02:22] oh [02:22] that said ;) [02:22] you have to bump upstream version :) [02:23] as you have changed branding [02:24] gnomefreak ... guess 1.1.1+1-0ubuntu1 then [02:24] sorry for the confusion [02:24] but i think that would be right [02:24] changed branding in mt release [02:25] you have to change it for offical as well and call upstream tarball with other version [02:25] like above [02:26] the upstream tarball is the same that ive been using. they havent changed it since feb. [02:27] anyway ... WE changed it [02:27] so WE need a different version [02:27] k [02:27] we fixed debian->ubuntu ... remember? [02:27] yep [02:27] yeah ... so just rename the tarball with new version [02:28] then change changelog version appropriately so build will use that tarball done [02:28] no need to regen tarball [02:28] just a move/rename [02:29] ok cool. im thinking of what to add to changelog for ubuntu version since all changes were made for mt release [02:30] just talk about new upstream version tarball because of branding [02:30] and that this is motu release [02:30] and remember to use Maintainer: MOTU developers [02:30] or something [02:31] i think thats the way it has to be ;) [02:31] if you build add -vLAST_VERSION_BEFORE_MT_RELEASE for dpkg-buildpackage [02:31] in this way mt changes will end up in changelog as well [02:31] Ubuntu MOTU Developers [02:32] thanks [02:32] and Original-Maintainer: ?? [02:32] what is done about Uploaders: ? [02:32] XSBC-Original-Maintainer: can be whatever [02:32] ajmitch: ^^^ [02:32] Uploaders is ignored [02:32] ok [02:32] Uploaders only affects debian NMU rules [02:34] gnomefreak: got it? [02:34] i think so [02:34] ;)+ [02:35] oh man ... i think i should drop everything and look into windows installer :( [02:35] asac: why? [02:36] uds :) [02:36] https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/installer-for-windows [02:36] a task is to review some code of that ;) [02:36] yeah I know, but dropping everything? [02:37] you need to do some review before UDS, you mean? [02:37] yes ;) [02:37] to prepare [02:37] fun === ajmitch has prepared a bit for UDS [02:58] do i need a XSBC-Original-Maintainer feild? [03:00] not required [03:00] ok cool [03:00] ty [03:06] ok [03:08] ok changes are ready i will build sundayish and try to dput it. [03:29] ok short lunch ... bbiw [04:03] back === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:54] asac: ping [04:56] asac: a friend is testing flash on firefox with a 64 bit computer using nspluginwrapper [04:56] asac: without having good results: ii@laptop:/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/x86_64/linux$ sudo ./npconfig -i /usr/lib/mozilla/libflashplayer.so [04:56] nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/mozilla/libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin [04:56] asac: or ii@laptop:/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/x86_64$ nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [04:56] nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [04:56] asac: do you know what it can be? [04:58] no idea not yet looked into nspluginwrapper [04:58] is on my todo list though [04:59] asac: ok great [04:59] maybe /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so is not 32-bit? [04:59] aeh [04:59] /usr/lib/mozilla/libflashplayer.so does probably not exist :) [05:49] asac: :D [06:04] bluekuja: did he figure out? [06:04] asac: posted it in the forum, waiting reply :) [06:04] asac: a question [06:05] asac: how can I upload the diff.gz you provided me in revu? I get some md5sum mismatch(fixed) and signature errores [06:05] *errors [06:05] that I dont get with the 149kb one [06:06] i did provide nothing [06:07] the diff was just to show your actual changes [06:07] you must not use that [06:07] the one you had is the one that was fine [06:07] but please do what i commented [06:07] 2. why do you change this: [06:07] - CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) --prefix=/usr --mandir=$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=$${prefix}/share/info [06:07] + CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS) -Wl,-z,defs" ./configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=$${prefix}/share/info [06:07] is not correct [06:08] I changed it to fix docs problem [06:08] bluekuja: just think about this ... if you apply that patch to orig.tar.gz you will again endup without autostuff regenerated .... which was the initial problem [06:08] yes [06:08] doc problems? [06:09] i get this /share/man/man1/gtorrentviewer.1 [06:09] instead of /usr/share/man/man1/gtorrentviewer.1 [06:09] we talked about it with laserjock [06:09] while ago [06:09] yes ... but almost certainly not because of the -Wl,-z,defs [06:09] nope [06:09] why did you drop it then? [06:10] * debian/rules: [06:10] DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE and DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE lines are a bit odd, we arent cross compiling the source packages. [06:10] laserjock comment [06:11] asac: what do you think? [06:12] want me to replace the previous version? [06:14] anyway don't drop them [06:14] should not matter [06:14] e.g. keep ;) [06:15] ok i add DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE and DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE again [06:15] --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) ... is fine to have [06:15] ok [06:15] yes [06:15] perfect [06:15] adding it [06:17] asac: deleted -wl,z etc adding it again [06:17] lets rebuild now [06:27] asac: done ;) [06:37] ok bluekuja will take a look when i return ... taking a break [06:37] asac; perfect [06:56] asac: wait to review...cant upload to revu yet [06:57] he? [06:57] asac: I uploaded a file with a bad signature before [06:57] asac: that file need to be removed by an admin [06:57] asac: waiting ajmitch [06:57] bluekuja: ok ... did you ping them? [06:57] ok fine [06:58] just let me know ... my break will take a bit longer anyway :) [06:58] asac: yeah, but seems that nobody is here :( [06:58] asac: take your time ;) [08:11] things worked out for you? [08:19] asac: still waiting failed upload to be deleted [08:20] asac: I hope someone will come soon [08:24] ok [08:35] asac: /t [08:35] er [08:35] crap [08:36] asac: http://admiralchicago.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/mentoring/ [08:37] thats what i wanted to link you too [08:40] Admiral_Chicago: niche [08:40] nice [08:40] :) [08:40] i think you don't have to obfuscate the email [08:40] we need spam filtering anyway :) [08:41] take it out? [08:41] yea the MLs have been getting hit my spam [08:41] i know because I keep some MLs clean [08:41] i don't see that :) [08:41] no i mean you can write it as mailto: link that works [08:41] if its already pushlished don't mind [08:42] i am getting loads of spam everyday ;) [08:42] so it doesn't matter :) [08:43] ah okay. let me mess with that, i thought about it but couldn't figure out the syntax, i'll fiddle [08:43] its just link http but mailto:mail@test.tld [08:43] you can even say [08:44] mailto:mail@test.tld?Subject=MasterSubjectFigureWithespaceout ;) [08:44] whitespace :) [08:45] i think google will be my friend on this one [08:47] repaired [08:48] class time [08:49] have fun [08:49] :-D [08:49] will do. [10:10] bluekuja: you pinged me? [10:20] ajmitch: i think a corrupted upload prevents new uploads to revu :) [10:21] ajmitch: for bluekuja that is [10:21] gtorrent-viewer ;) [10:21] isn't incoming queue cleaned up when something with bad checksum is injected? [10:23] no, it's a fairly simple setup === ajmitch cleared it [10:24] k thank you [10:29] some interest in bug #110049 [10:29] Launchpad bug 110049 in firefox "Firefox needs a better clue file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110049 [10:29] good. [10:30] wait a second. [10:30] ah i see [10:30] asac: if you want to help, you can offer to mentor as well on the bug report [10:30] well done :) [10:30] i've got two people [10:31] i think people that are interested in helping will probably end up here anyway :) [10:32] so maybe its less confusing if you take the dedicated lead to get them started ;) [10:32] what do you think? [10:32] okay i will [10:32] I'm in the process of fixing my bzr confilct [10:32] probably a good excercise :) [10:33] i am now out for a few minutes [10:33] i hope that these people have feisty or better machines [10:34] probably they wil [10:34] l [10:40] yep, got the latest clue files [10:40] brb [10:49] fine [11:11] grrr, my bookmarks have disappeared. [11:12] hmm and some plugins have lost settings.. [11:12] (bookmarks restored from backup files).. [11:14] ajmitch: thanks ;) [11:14] AlexLatchford probably a corrupted profile [11:14] asac: thanks too for reporting it to andrew ;) [11:14] well it reset them to the default bookmarks.. [11:14] I am thinking it was the -mt update.. [11:15] AlexLatchford: which mt update? [11:15] today's [11:15] or yesterday's [11:15] what version is it? [11:16] 2.0.0.3+2.ng-0mt.6 [11:16] I think [11:16] did you use any .ng release before? [11:16] I updated from John's repository a few days back [11:17] I was using the standard ubuntu before that [11:17] did it break at that time? [11:17] or just now? [11:17] during the first update though, just after I added the repository the dom-inspector broke synaptic [11:17] it just broke today [11:22] are certs broken as well? [11:23] https? [11:23] e.g. asks for certs that are valid ? [11:24] yes, it alerted me [11:25] but they are not broken I dont think [11:32] yes alert means we lost the default CA certs somewhere *broken* [11:32] which is pretty serious bug [11:33] damn ssl stuff is really broken [11:33] what plugin settings did you loose? [11:33] gnight all [11:34] maybe you lost some plugins? AlexLatchford ? [11:34] bluekuja: night [11:34] asac: night ! cya tomorrow! ;) [11:34] AlexLatchford: e.g. plugins installed globally? [11:35] erm, plugins and extensions I didnt seem to lose [11:35] just the settings for them [11:38] hmm [11:39] AlexLatchford: can you try to downgrade ... and see if upgrading back will show this problem again? [11:39] e.g. for downgrade, just uninstall and install ubuntus version ... then go up to preview again :/ [11:39] mind if I do it tomorrow.. [11:40] did it not happen to you? [11:41] nope [11:41] just ssl problem [11:41] if you say that its reproducible I would do a night shift i guess :) [11:41] oh wait ... its already 2340 here ;) [11:42] ok, gimme half an hour [11:42] whats the current ubuntu version? [11:42] cool [11:42] current ubuntu is 2.0.0.3+1-ubuntu2 i guess [11:43] yes its 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 [11:43] sudo apt-get install firefox=2.0.0.3+1-ubuntu2 [11:43] yeah with proper version [11:43] maybe be sure that you uninstall before [11:44] not that there are any leftovers in /usr/lib/firefox /usr/share/firefox [11:44] -> e.g. both dirs should not exist after uninstall [11:44] cool [11:44] I presume it will not affect .mozilla? [11:44] no it should not [11:44] anyway if you run preview releases :) ... its probably a good idea to backup that regularaly :) [11:44] ive backed it up anyway [11:45] yeah [11:45] so you don't loose your bookmarks again :) [11:45] :) [11:45] wait do bookmarks work at all for you now? [11:45] yes, they were just reset [11:45] to default [11:45] so basically nothing, homepage with changed to the feisty release notes [11:45] s/with/was [11:48] okay beginning install process again, (for ubuntu version :)) [11:48] shall I reinstall all the plugins after the install for the ubuntu versions? [11:48] (flash, java, dom-inspector, themes etc.) [11:50] hmm.. [11:51] http://82.44.193.109/error.txt [11:52] I removed the directories, or should I have just emptied them [11:56] which directories? [11:56] plugins? [11:56] /usr/share/firefox & /usr/lib/firefox [11:57] ah ... yeah ... i think that was right :) [11:57] was there leftover? [11:57] ? [11:57] did they still exist after you uninstalled firefox? [11:57] no I removed then using rm [11:58] (I mean yes, they existed, but I removed them manually) [11:58] ah ok [11:58] hmm [11:58] any idea what was in there? [11:58] if not don't bother ;) [11:58] nah, I didn't do an ls [11:58] too bad ;) [11:58] anyway ... lets see if you can reproduce [11:58] :) [11:59] well I cannot get the ubuntu version to install.. [11:59] because of what reasons? [11:59] http://82.44.193.109/error.txt [11:59] he? [11:59] ah maybe use an explicit mirror [11:59] e.g. us.archive.ubuntu.com [11:59] unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/firefox': No such file or directory [12:00] sounds bad ... you did remove firefox (with apt or so) right? [12:00] It appears to download the file fine, but not unpack.. [12:01] I removed firefox using apt-get remove firefox [12:01] when do you get http://82.44.193.109/error.txt ? [12:01] when running the command on the first line [12:01] which command? 'firefox' ? [12:02] sudo apt-get install firefox=2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 [12:02] shall I try to make the directory it says it cannot manually.. [12:02] hmm you can try ... but sounds wierd [12:03] so do you see firefox being downloaded? [12:04] otherwise maybe clean your apt cache [12:04] with apt-get clean [12:04] if I make the directory it installs [12:04] seems like a small problem with the installer.. [12:04] as it says it cannot create /usr/lib/firefox/firefox [12:05] i guess you had still some package with installed files in /usr/lib/firefox [12:05] whereas if I just create /usr/lib/firefox [12:05] ... which are now broken :) [12:05] I removed the entire directory.. [12:05] does dpkg -S firefox [12:05] bring anything up other than the firefox packages? [12:05] -trunk packages also [12:05] ok that is sane [12:06] they should be /usr/lib/firefox-trunk only [12:06] and share [12:06] anything else? [12:06] mozilla-firefox-locale, -dbg packages also [12:06] why where locale packages not removed? [12:06] they should have been removed when removing firefox [12:07] hmm.. [12:07] I thought they had been [12:07] probably have been reinstalled with it.. [12:08] ok ... does it work? [12:08] now? [12:08] e.g. starts et al? [12:08] yes, it works fine [12:08] I think it was an error in the dpkg script [12:09] it was saying that it couldnt find /usr/lib/firefox/firefox [12:09] ..but when I created /usr/lib/firefox it installed fine.. [12:09] but now here is not folder inside that called firefox.. [12:09] so it was not needed.. [12:09] i guess it tried to create the link [12:09] e.g. try [12:10] ls -l /usr/bin/firefox [12:10] its a link [12:10] which probably failed to be created [12:10] hmm okay [12:10] /usr/lib/firefox/firefox should be the main programm [12:10] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-05-03 23:03 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox [12:10] nevertheless completely wierd [12:10] yes right [12:10] thats the same [12:11] i only can think that there was still some extension or so that installs in both firefox and iceape or thunderbird [12:11] so should I install the plugins now, then upgrade? [12:11] yeah ... ;) [12:11] :) gimme a few minutes [12:16] ok i tracked the ssl problem [12:16] now gimme confidence about the rest :) [12:16] good good [12:16] :) [12:16] Well the update was done via sudo apt-get install -f [12:17] because the previous update has broken the dom-inspector plugin [12:19] hmm.. seems to work okay now.. [12:20] how do I get the firefox version without typing it out from Synaptic [12:21] ah ok ... dom-inspector have have been bad depends [12:21] ? [12:21] dpkg -l firefox [12:21] ;) [12:21] if you can't see all of the version (e.g. too long) : [12:21] # COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l firefox [12:21] will do the trick [12:22] no idea about synaptic [12:22] just used it once some years back and when it crashed I went back to cmd line :) [12:22] lol [12:22] it is rather useful for finding packages [12:23] I am gradually switching for most things to cmd line though [12:23] okay, I think it must have been the dom-inspector issue.. [12:23] which has been ironed out.. [12:23] ok ... fine [12:24] hmm for me dom-inspector gets removed when i purge firefox [12:24] though i use aptitude which is way smarter then apt-get :) [12:25] :P [12:25] so if you switch to cmdline probably get used to aptitude directly [12:25] yeah [12:25] ;) [12:26] your done with upgrade? [12:26] yeah [12:26] maybe change some bookmarks first as well :) [12:26] did it break anything? [12:26] nope [12:26] ok [12:27] i think bookmarks might get corrupted if you shut down X [12:27] not that I can see.. all plugins kept, extension settings the same [12:27] without closing (though it should be really rare) [12:27] k