[12:31] <asac> then nss and nspr should be in gutsy
[12:31] <asac> maybe i we need to give back nss one more time :)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> nss is not yet
[12:47] <gnomefreak> nspr is -0d-dev and 0d\
[12:47] <gnomefreak> or something like that
[12:51] <asac> 4-dev & -0d
[12:51] <gnomefreak> yeah
[12:52] <asac> lets see if nss respins automatically
[12:52] <asac> at least launchpad shows that depedency wait is not true anymore
[12:52] <asac> if smart new build attempt will follow :/
[12:53] <asac> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss/3.11.5-3
[12:53] <asac> great is building
[12:53] <asac> at least on amd64 and i64
[12:53] <asac> nice ;)
[12:53] <asac> tomorrow things can go up :)
[12:54] <asac> lets see how hell's coming :)
[12:54] <asac> hmmm again dependency wait :/
[12:57] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:18] <asac> have a nice trip gnomefreak
[01:22] <gnomefreak> night
[04:37] <[Cade] > hmm - what else is holding Firefox and TB updates up? I saw libnspr and libhunspell have updates now =D
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> define updates?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> err updates*
[05:40] <[Cade] > they have updates in the gutsy repos
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure I know what your question is
[05:42] <[Cade] > ah - I'm referring to FF update and TB2 for gutsy
[05:42] <[Cade] > ;)
[05:43] <[Cade] > mainly because the updated version of libhunspell breaks the current ff packages
[05:43] <[Cade] > just as a note, here's the relevant packages that got upgrades: libnspr4-0d libnspr4-0d-dbg libstdc++6 hunspell-1.1.0 libhunspell-1.1.0
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ah its probably because our packaging people aren't at their computers
[05:44] <[Cade] > :P
[05:45] <[Cade] > I've been chomping at the bit ever since TB2 was released. I'm just so fed up with Evo :/
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> i need to try evolution, i heard it can handle outlook or something like that
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> you could build the binary
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> err install
[05:55] <[Cade] > I'm a fan of font-rendering patches =P
[08:09] <sanityx> Anybody know of a way to sync Palm contacts with Thunderbird?
[08:36] <poningru> !
[08:36] <poningru> doh
[10:05] <gnomefreak> [Cade] : we need a few packages in first before we can spin against gutsy
[10:05] <gnomefreak> they started pouring in late yesterday
[10:07] <gnomefreak> [Cade] : should be fixed in next day or 2 (depending on any problems that arise)
[10:16] <asac> so did nss build?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> not here yet
[10:23] <gnomefreak> i just did updates for gutsy and not yet. im setting up for iceape build incase it comes in in time.
[10:35] <asac> hmm ... ok nspr ended up in universe (e.g. just the binaries)
[10:35] <asac> so nss didn't build because source was in main as well
[10:35] <asac> should be fixed now
[10:35] <gnomefreak> why universe?
[10:36] <asac> but takes some time until builders do i
[10:36] <asac> error by the one processing the NEW binaries
[10:36] <asac> the source is in main
[10:36] <gnomefreak> i dont expect to spin it before i leave but would have been nice
[10:36] <asac> but it should be fixed now
[10:37] <gnomefreak> asac: congrats on reviewer status ;)
[10:37] <asac> he?
[10:37] <asac> ah ;)
[10:39] <asac> Bug 50768 .. is it fixed now?
[10:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 50768 in firefox "Strange artifacts in text fields within web applications when moving cursor with keyboard" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50768
[10:41] <gnomefreak> not sure thats the first time ive seen that
[10:41] <asac> yeah just read the last comment which ended up in my inbox
[10:42] <asac> looks like its not firefox
[10:42] <gnomefreak> its upstream bug
[10:42] <gnomefreak> from what it shows
[10:42] <gnomefreak> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345438
[10:42] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 345438 in Layout "Moving cursor back/forward in all forms and in the location bar leaves caret turds (with nv video driver installed)" [Normal,New] 
[10:42] <asac> is the workaround in bugzilla?`
[10:43] <asac> is bugzilla reporter same as ubuntu reporter?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> and no patch yet
[10:43] <gnomefreak> no
[10:44] <gnomefreak> unless they use a different nick in LP and mozilla bugtracker
[10:54] <asac> workaround
[10:54] <asac> is in bug
[10:54] <asac> why i said its fixed for us :)
[11:37] <gnomefreak> asac: do i need to learn dput for revu or am i gonna put sources somewhere else?
[11:40] <asac> hmmm
[11:40] <asac> good idea :)
[11:40] <asac> e.g. to upload to revu
[11:40] <asac> yes then use dput or dupload
[11:40] <asac> later you will push that way to preview archive as well
[11:40] <asac> e.g. as soon as we have incoming processing
[11:45] <gnomefreak> k
[11:46] <gnomefreak> i will see if i can find docs on it than
[11:54] <asac> hmm we get more and more @gtk_widget_event_internal now
[11:54] <gnomefreak> feisty?
[11:55] <asac> bug 94749 is master
[11:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 94749 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_widget_event_internal]  " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94749
[11:55] <gnomefreak> we have way too many bugs with @gtk_* :(
[11:55] <asac> yeah ;)
[11:56] <asac> mozilla projects need some gtk experts :)
[11:56] <asac> which they lack
[11:56] <asac> yeah finall libnspr4-dev is in main
[11:56] <asac> at least on my mirror
[11:56] <asac> thanks god
[11:57] <gnomefreak> asac == gtk expert no? ;)
[11:58] <asac> hehe
[11:58] <asac> i can code gtk ;) ... but i am far away from being a gtk core developer :)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> gtk is a lang? i thought it was just widgets
[11:59] <asac> a lib
[11:59] <gnomefreak> like python+gtk
[11:59] <asac> a widget toolkit library
[11:59] <asac> gtk+ is C
[11:59] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:59] <asac> and there are several bindings for other languages
[11:59] <asac> e.g. like python-gtk +perl-gtk
[11:59] <gnomefreak> yuck @ C
[11:59] <asac> et al
[12:00] <asac> C is great ;)
[12:01] <gnomefreak> python is easier (from what i hear) i dropped C for python and than got too busy to learn python
[12:06] <asac> hey hjmf :)
[12:06] <asac> welcome
[12:07] <hjmf> hello
[12:08] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/uds-sevilla/
[12:08] <ajmitch> schedule?
[12:08] <asac> maybe you find something interesting :)
[12:08] <ajmitch> awesome
[12:09] <asac> might change a bit ... but main tracks should be rather fixed now
[12:09] <hjmf> hmm it's too far from my house
[12:09] <ajmitch> oh, definitely ubuntu server forum :)
[12:09] <hjmf> are you traveling ?
[12:09] <asac> i will be there :)
[12:09] <ajmitch> probably no chance of getting it, but oh well :)
[12:09] <asac>  there is Bug/Crash reporting forum on thursday morning :)
[12:10] <ajmitch> I see you're in the server track, asac
[12:10] <hjmf> I've merged together all those [@gtk_widget_event_internal]  [@??] 
[12:10] <hjmf> probably the same crash
[12:11] <asac> hjmf: yeah ... you know when this first popped up? recently?
[12:11] <asac> ajmitch: yeah ;)
[12:11] <hjmf> couple of weeks maybe, not sure
[12:12] <hjmf> will be video live/recorded sessions at UDS-Sevilla?
[12:13] <asac> ok so probably gtk+ update for latest gnome
[12:13] <hjmf> asac: will look
[12:13] <asac> hjmf: hmm i have no idea ;)
[12:13] <ajmitch> they haven't been in the past
[12:13] <ajmitch> too much equipment to setup
[12:13] <hjmf> what a pitty! :(
[12:13] <ajmitch> sessions aren't really that interesting by video
[12:14] <ajmitch> since it's usually people sitting round a table discussing
[12:14] <ajmitch> or crammed into a room somehow
[12:14] <hjmf> I see
[12:14] <asac> maybe some video feed from the pool :)
[12:14] <ajmitch> haha
[12:14] <ajmitch> there's a pool there?
[12:14] <hjmf> I thought it would be more like a conference, then discussion
[12:14] <ajmitch> nah
[12:15] <hjmf> :)
[12:15] <ajmitch> it's nearly all discussion & spec sessions
[12:15] <hjmf> ah
[12:15] <ajmitch> "intense"
[12:15] <hjmf> good luck then ...
[12:15] <hjmf> :)
[12:15] <asac> gnomefreak: libnss is in gutsy ... lets go :)
[12:16] <ajmitch> excellent
[12:17] <hjmf> asac: about the gtk_widget_event_internal there were some reports before, but the last *bunch* is from last week of april
[12:17] <hjmf> till now
[12:17] <asac> hmm ... feisty?
[12:18] <hjmf> yes
[12:19] <hjmf> the last 7 are from feisty
[12:20] <asac> but we have edgy as well?
[12:21] <hjmf> sure, the master is from edgy
[12:22] <hjmf> but the last ones are all from feisty (probably because of dissabling apport in edgy)
[12:22] <hjmf> ... not all, the last one is from edgy (bug 111875)
[12:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111875 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_widget_event_internal]  [@ ??]  [@vtable for nsDOMConstructor at #12]  (dup-of: 94749)" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111875
[12:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 94749 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_widget_event_internal]  " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94749
[12:23] <hjmf> 6:1 feisty:edgy since last week of april
[12:23] <asac> hmm ... isn't apport disabled for feisty as well now?
[12:23] <hjmf> not sure, probably
[12:24] <hjmf> I don't have crashes Ubuntu rocks :-P
[12:27] <hjmf> /etc/default/apport
[12:27] <hjmf> # set this to 0 to disable apport
[12:27] <hjmf> enabled=1
[12:27] <hjmf> but I guess that ^^^ is not what I had to look
[12:29] <asac> i don't know
[12:29] <asac> i would think so
[12:29] <asac> but it doesn't work for me iirc :)
[12:29] <hjmf> I think that that sets apport to collect crashes
[12:30] <hjmf> but to auto-upload there must be another setting somewhere
[12:30] <gnomefreak> mine is set to 1 but still never gives me the dialog. i meant to ping pitti about it but i keep forgeting
[12:31] <hjmf> yes, it might be this one though:
[12:32] <hjmf> gconf-editor: /apps/update-notifier/show_apport_crashes false
[12:32] <asac> ah right
[12:32] <hjmf> f this is disabled, the user will not be notified about pending apport crash reports.
[12:32] <asac> probably thats the one
[12:32] <hjmf> it's disabled on feisty
[12:33] <asac> so thats why we are able to reduce bug count :)
[12:33] <asac> not bad ;)
[12:33] <hjmf> yeah!
[12:33] <gnomefreak> well thats not good
[12:33] <hjmf> I can see your point gnomefreak
[12:33] <asac> 609 open bugs :)
[12:33] <asac> pretty nice
[12:34] <gnomefreak> he gave me command to turn it on
[12:34] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:34] <asac> 1291 with dupes
[12:34] <hjmf> and most of them can be close too
[12:34] <asac> of the 609 ?
[12:34] <hjmf> closed*
[12:34] <hjmf> yes
[12:35] <gnomefreak> gconftool-2 -s --type boolean /apps/update-notifier/show_apport_crashes true
[12:35] <hjmf> I meant many not most
[12:35] <asac> yeah ;)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> to turn on dialog
[12:35] <gnomefreak> oh you already said tha :(
[12:35] <hjmf> :)
[12:36] <hjmf> we can always have for fun the mess on mozilla-thunderbird reports
[12:36] <asac> yes ... we probably shouldn't ignore them anymore
[12:37] <asac> do retraces work?
[12:37] <hjmf> yes
[12:37] <asac> or are dbgsym packages still broken?
[12:37] <asac> ah ok
[12:37] <hjmf> I still using mines, but apport retracing service can handle them too
[12:37] <hjmf> so dbgsyms are OK now
[12:37] <asac> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/71131
[12:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 71131 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird crashes if you change Gnome theme while it is running" [High,Needs info] 
[12:37] <asac> can you confirm this?
[12:38] <asac> e.g. thats without totem apparently ;)
[12:38] <asac> but sounds like our totem crash ;)
[12:38] <gnomefreak> that looks like same issue with firefox
[12:38] <asac> maybe its the initial theme crasher ... for which we have a patch in firefox
[12:38] <gnomefreak> tryin gnow
[12:39] <gnomefreak> trying now even
[12:39] <hjmf> a crash report on that one would have been nice
[12:39] <gnomefreak> failed to crash with 2.0
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... the patch i was refering to landed for 2.0
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:40] <asac> hjmf: do your retrace scripts work for tbird as well .... like on bug 72160
[12:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72160 in mozilla-thunderbird "TB crashed while writing reply email" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72160
[12:40] <asac> ?
[12:40] <hjmf> will tell you in a couple of minutes
[12:44] <hjmf> asac: you can check
[12:44] <hjmf> it worked
[12:44] <hjmf> though I still have broken the autopost stuff
[12:44] <hjmf> so I have to do it manually
[12:45] <asac> hjmf:  i looked into backtrace stuff ... the code that the retrace service uses is in apport bzr
[12:46] <asac> i found the place where the top 5 stack elements are extracted
[12:46] <hjmf> yes, I borrowed from they some time ago.
[12:46] <hjmf> I have to check what had changed
[12:46] <asac> so probably almost all is there already ... do we see summaries of stacks retraced by service?
[12:47] <hjmf> but HTMLOperations.Bug is still the same that it was yesterday
[12:47] <hjmf> and then it worked
[12:48] <hjmf> the apport service only shows the first 3-4 stacks and we need from the 4th to the 7th as the fist three are always the same on most of the cases
[12:49] <asac> hmmm ... if that is true for non mozilla packages as well, we should probably try to fix it there
[12:50] <hjmf> that can be changed easily by you or pitty on report['StacktraceTop'] 
[12:50] <hjmf> from apport
[12:50] <asac> yes ... we should look how other traces look like ... maybe we can try to better detect where to start.
[12:51] <hjmf> what has to be changed i believe that is at apport/report.py
[12:52] <asac> yes i think so ... iirc
[12:52] <hjmf> yes, nowadays is StacktraceTop: simplified stacktrace (topmost 5 functions) for inline
[12:52] <hjmf> and it should include 3 or 4 more
[12:53] <hjmf> Changing toptrace = ['']  * 5 for toptrace = ['']  * 9
[12:53] <hjmf> might do it
[12:53] <hjmf> though It is just the first sight
[12:54] <asac> hmmm ... i can talk to pitti
[12:54] <hjmf> with that we can handle both the usual stacktrace and those w/o the 3# <signal caller...
[12:55] <asac> if you run apport locally ... do you see the StacktraceTop results as well?
[12:55] <asac> yeah
[12:55] <asac> mozilla is a bit special because they catch signals on their own
[12:55] <asac> maybe at some point packages can ship infos about "where does stacktrace start"
[12:55] <hjmf> ... I don't run apport as it should, I'm still at apport 0.61
[12:55] <asac> but maybe just using 9 is ok as well
[12:55] <asac> hjmf: ouch :)
[12:56] <hjmf> yes with 9 it will be OK
[12:56] <hjmf> on my retraces I use by default from 3 to 12
[12:56] <hjmf> but 0-9 will be ok too
[12:56] <asac> afaik latest apport should be usable as the good old 0.61 ... but what can i say :) ?
[12:56] <hjmf> not tested
[12:57] <hjmf> that's another thing I want to do
[12:57] <hjmf> use current apport
[12:57] <hjmf> but as long as old roks to me I've been a little bit lazy
[12:57] <asac> at best use it from bzr :)
[12:57] <asac> so you can contribute best to development
[12:57] <hjmf> will have to, sure
[01:02] <asac> hey you are bughelper-dev as well :)
[01:02] <asac> welcome
[01:08] <hjmf> haha yes! :P
[01:12] <hjmf> asac: can you do me a quick favor
[01:13] <asac> depends :) ... but I'll try
[01:13] <hjmf> I'm stuck with this error with all my autopost routines
[01:13] <hjmf> can you fire up python and
[01:13] <hjmf> type
[01:13] <hjmf> >>> from launchpadBugs.HTMLOperations import Bug
[01:13] <hjmf> >>> bugnumber = 104533
[01:13] <hjmf> >>> cookiefile="/home/hjmf/.mozilla/firefox/oicl0ue1.default/cookies.txt"
[01:13] <hjmf> >>> bug = Bug(bugnumber, cookie_file=cookiefile)
[01:13] <hjmf> >>> bug.get_metadata()
[01:13] <hjmf> >>> bug.__dict__['tags'] =['mt-confirm'] 
[01:13] <hjmf> >>> bug.set_metadata()
[01:13] <hjmf> of course changing your cookie file
[01:14] <hjmf> with that bug number
[01:15] <asac> i get
[01:15] <asac> <addinfourl at 15204432 whose fp = <socket._fileobject object at 0xd958c0>>
[01:15] <asac> now what?
[01:15] <asac> should this have updated the bug?
[01:15] <asac> bug 104533
[01:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104533 in firefox "firefox crashed" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104533
[01:15] <hjmf> yes it works for you
[01:16] <hjmf> are you using the last bzr merge?
[01:16] <asac> yeah
[01:16] <hjmf> thank you
[01:16] <asac> no ... i just used what is here on my system
[01:16] <gnomefreak> nss hit
[01:16] <hjmf> I'll will work on this later
[01:16] <hjmf> so it is my fault somewher
[01:16] <hjmf> e
[01:16] <gnomefreak> in universe though
[01:17] <asac> hmm
[01:17] <asac> ok
[01:18] <gnomefreak> for seamonkey source do i want the tar.gz or the bz2? i cant remember :(
[01:18] <gnomefreak> rules doesnt say
[01:18] <hjmf> cy all till this evening
[01:18] <gnomefreak> hjmf: have fun
[01:20] <asac> yeah bye hjmf
[01:20] <asac> gnomefreak: he?
[01:20] <asac> whatever is released upstream as "source"
[01:20] <gnomefreak> i see both
[01:20] <gnomefreak> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1.1
[01:20] <asac> in source?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> File: seamonkey-1.1.1.source.tar.bz2  	34176 KB  	02/22/2007  	02:15:00 PM
[01:21] <gnomefreak> File: seamonkey-1.1.1.source.tar.gz
[01:21] <asac> it doesn't matter
[01:21] <gnomefreak> k
[01:21] <asac> as you have to extract it on your own
[01:21] <asac> then build your own orig out of if
[01:21] <asac> it
[01:22] <gnomefreak> and than i can just run dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -kKEYID? than dput the .changes file?
[01:27] <asac> yes
[01:27] <asac> should work that way
[01:28] <asac> e.g. you don't need -kKEYID
[01:28] <asac> if you are the last in changelog
[01:28] <asac> which you probably should
[01:28] <asac> and remember to use ubuntu version
[01:28] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[01:28] <gnomefreak> yeah 1.1.1-3ubuntu0
[01:28] <asac> e.g. version that is lower than the debian one
[01:28] <gnomefreak> debians is 1.1.1-3 iirc
[01:28] <asac> if debian was 1.1.1-3 ... then we use 1.1.1-2ubuntu0
[01:29] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:29] <asac> if we used wrong version in preview
[01:29] <asac> then we have bad luck
[01:29] <asac> and preview customers won't get an upgrade to official
[01:29] <gnomefreak> let me check changelog
[01:29] <asac> but i don't think we have to bother about them :)
[01:29] <asac> we should fix that as soon as debian uses a new version
[01:30] <asac> until then preview users just have the preview build :)
[01:30] <gnomefreak> iceape (1.1.1-3) unstable; urgency=low  is the last from Mike
[01:30] <gnomefreak> we just added .mt0 to the end
[01:30] <asac> gnomefreak: i am really not sure atm
[01:30] <asac> maybe ask on motu :)
[01:30] <asac> e.g. what version to choose so that merge-o-matic and stuff like that works
[01:31] <gnomefreak> ok ill ping one of them when i get home or maybe monday the latest
[01:31] <asac> maybe its indeed 1.1.1-3ubuntu0
[01:31] <asac> i can see benifits from both :)
[01:31] <asac> ok
[01:32] <gnomefreak> since its the same as in preview that should be fine. we can bump preview when new version goes in
[01:32] <gnomefreak> preview == unofficial is how i came up with that but i will ask them when i return
[01:35] <asac> just ask what the right version for ubuntu merge is if 1.1.1-3 is debian version
[01:35] <asac> that will give you an answer :)
[01:37] <asac> ok nss should be in main on next push
[01:37] <asac> we can then probably drop it from gutsy preview archive
[01:59] <gnomefreak> should i drop the mt versions from changelog?
[02:05] <asac> for upload to revu?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> yeah
[02:06] <asac> you can keep them if there are important infos ... or merge all content into your "new" changelog entry
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ok merging them into one would be good :)
[02:07] <gnomefreak> im getting a couple of differnet answers on versioning
[02:21] <asac> which?
[02:22] <asac> you have changes: new upstream tarball ;)
[02:22] <asac> oh
[02:22] <asac> that said ;)
[02:22] <asac> you have to bump upstream version :)
[02:23] <asac> as you have changed branding
[02:24] <asac> gnomefreak ... guess 1.1.1+1-0ubuntu1 then
[02:24] <asac> sorry for the confusion
[02:24] <asac> but i think that would be right
[02:24] <gnomefreak> changed branding in mt release
[02:25] <asac> you have to change it for offical as well and call upstream tarball with other version
[02:25] <asac> like above
[02:26] <gnomefreak> the upstream tarball is the same that ive been using. they havent changed it since feb.
[02:27] <asac> anyway ... WE changed it
[02:27] <asac> so WE need a different version
[02:27] <gnomefreak> k
[02:27] <asac> we fixed debian->ubuntu ... remember?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> yep
[02:27] <asac> yeah ... so just rename the tarball with new version
[02:28] <asac> then change changelog version appropriately so build will use that tarball done
[02:28] <asac> no need to regen tarball
[02:28] <asac> just a move/rename
[02:29] <gnomefreak> ok cool. im thinking of what to add to changelog for ubuntu version since all changes were made for mt release
[02:30] <asac> just talk about new upstream version tarball because of branding
[02:30] <asac> and that this is motu release
[02:30] <asac> and remember to use Maintainer: MOTU developers
[02:30] <asac> or something
[02:31] <asac> i think thats the way it has to be ;)
[02:31] <asac> if you build add -vLAST_VERSION_BEFORE_MT_RELEASE for dpkg-buildpackage
[02:31] <asac> in this way mt changes will end up in changelog as well
[02:31] <ajmitch> Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
[02:32] <asac> thanks
[02:32] <asac> and Original-Maintainer: ??
[02:32] <asac> what is done about Uploaders: ?
[02:32] <ajmitch> XSBC-Original-Maintainer: can be whatever
[02:32] <asac> ajmitch: ^^^
[02:32] <ajmitch> Uploaders is ignored
[02:32] <asac> ok
[02:32] <ajmitch> Uploaders only affects debian NMU rules
[02:34] <asac> gnomefreak: got it?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> i think so
[02:34] <asac> ;)+
[02:35] <asac> oh man ... i think i should drop everything and look into windows installer :(
[02:35] <ajmitch> asac: why?
[02:36] <asac> uds :)
[02:36] <asac> https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/installer-for-windows
[02:36] <asac> a task is to review some code of that ;)
[02:36] <ajmitch> yeah I know, but dropping everything?
[02:37] <ajmitch> you need to do some review before UDS, you mean?
[02:37] <asac> yes ;)
[02:37] <asac> to prepare
[02:37] <ajmitch> fun
[02:58] <gnomefreak> do i need a XSBC-Original-Maintainer feild?
[03:00] <ajmitch> not required
[03:00] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[03:00] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ok
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ok changes are ready i will build sundayish and try to dput it.
[03:29] <asac> ok short lunch ... bbiw
[04:03] <asac> back
[04:54] <bluekuja> asac: ping
[04:56] <bluekuja> asac: a friend is testing flash on firefox with a 64 bit computer using nspluginwrapper
[04:56] <bluekuja> asac: without having good results: ii@laptop:/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/x86_64/linux$ sudo ./npconfig -i /usr/lib/mozilla/libflashplayer.so
[04:56] <bluekuja> nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/mozilla/libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin
[04:56] <bluekuja> asac: or ii@laptop:/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/x86_64$ nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[04:56] <bluekuja> nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[04:56] <bluekuja> asac: do you know what it can be?
[04:58] <asac> no idea not yet looked into nspluginwrapper
[04:58] <asac> is on my todo list though
[04:59] <bluekuja> asac: ok great
[04:59] <asac> maybe /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so is not 32-bit?
[04:59] <asac> aeh
[04:59] <asac> /usr/lib/mozilla/libflashplayer.so does probably not exist :)
[05:49] <bluekuja> asac: :D
[06:04] <asac> bluekuja: did he figure out?
[06:04] <bluekuja> asac: posted it in the forum, waiting reply :)
[06:04] <bluekuja> asac: a question
[06:05] <bluekuja> asac: how can I upload the diff.gz you provided me in revu? I get some md5sum mismatch(fixed) and signature errores
[06:05] <bluekuja> *errors
[06:05] <bluekuja> that I dont get with the 149kb one
[06:06] <asac> i did provide nothing
[06:07] <asac> the diff was just to show your actual changes
[06:07] <asac> you must not use that
[06:07] <asac> the one you had is the one that was fine
[06:07] <asac> but please do what i commented
[06:07] <bluekuja> 2. why do you change this:
[06:07] <bluekuja> - CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) --prefix=/usr --mandir=$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=$${prefix}/share/info
[06:07] <bluekuja> + CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS) -Wl,-z,defs" ./configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=$${prefix}/share/info
[06:07] <bluekuja> is not correct
[06:08] <bluekuja> I changed it to fix docs problem
[06:08] <asac> bluekuja: just think about this ... if you apply that patch to orig.tar.gz you will again endup without autostuff regenerated .... which was the initial problem
[06:08] <bluekuja> yes
[06:08] <asac> doc problems?
[06:09] <bluekuja> i get this /share/man/man1/gtorrentviewer.1
[06:09] <bluekuja> instead of /usr/share/man/man1/gtorrentviewer.1
[06:09] <bluekuja> we talked about it with laserjock
[06:09] <bluekuja> while ago
[06:09] <asac> yes ... but almost certainly not because of the  -Wl,-z,defs
[06:09] <bluekuja> nope
[06:09] <asac> why did you drop it then?
[06:10] <bluekuja> * debian/rules:
[06:10] <bluekuja> DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE and DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE lines are a bit odd, we arent cross compiling the source packages.
[06:10] <bluekuja> laserjock comment
[06:11] <bluekuja> asac: what do you think?
[06:12] <bluekuja> want me to replace the previous version?
[06:14] <asac> anyway don't drop them
[06:14] <asac> should not matter
[06:14] <asac> e.g. keep ;)
[06:15] <bluekuja> ok i add DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE and DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE again
[06:15] <asac> --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) ... is fine to have
[06:15] <bluekuja> ok
[06:15] <asac> yes
[06:15] <bluekuja> perfect
[06:15] <bluekuja> adding it
[06:17] <bluekuja> asac: deleted -wl,z etc adding it again
[06:17] <bluekuja> lets rebuild now
[06:27] <bluekuja> asac: done ;)
[06:37] <asac> ok bluekuja will take a look when i return ... taking a break
[06:37] <bluekuja> asac; perfect
[06:56] <bluekuja> asac: wait to review...cant upload to revu yet
[06:57] <asac> he?
[06:57] <bluekuja> asac: I uploaded a file with a bad signature before
[06:57] <bluekuja> asac: that file need to be removed by an admin
[06:57] <bluekuja> asac: waiting ajmitch
[06:57] <asac> bluekuja: ok ... did you ping them?
[06:57] <asac> ok fine
[06:58] <asac> just let me know ... my break will take a bit longer anyway :)
[06:58] <bluekuja> asac: yeah, but seems that nobody is here :(
[06:58] <bluekuja> asac: take your time ;)
[08:11] <asac> things worked out for you?
[08:19] <bluekuja> asac: still waiting failed upload to be deleted
[08:20] <bluekuja> asac: I hope someone will come soon
[08:24] <asac> ok
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: /t
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> er
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> crap
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: http://admiralchicago.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/mentoring/
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> thats what i wanted to link you too
[08:40] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: niche
[08:40] <asac> nice
[08:40] <asac> :)
[08:40] <asac> i think you don't have to obfuscate the email
[08:40] <asac> we need spam filtering anyway :)
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> take it out?
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> yea the MLs have been getting hit my spam
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> i know because I keep some MLs clean
[08:41] <asac> i don't see that :)
[08:41] <asac> no i mean you can write it as mailto: link that works
[08:41] <asac> if its already pushlished don't mind
[08:42] <asac> i am getting loads of spam everyday ;)
[08:42] <asac> so it doesn't matter :)
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago>  ah okay. let me mess with that, i thought about it but couldn't figure out the syntax, i'll fiddle
[08:43] <asac> its just link http but mailto:mail@test.tld
[08:43] <asac> you can even say
[08:44] <asac> mailto:mail@test.tld?Subject=MasterSubjectFigureWithespaceout ;)
[08:44] <asac> whitespace :)
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i think google will be my friend on this one
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> repaired
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> class time
[08:49] <asac> have fun
[08:49] <asac> :-D
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> will do.
[10:10] <ajmitch> bluekuja: you pinged me?
[10:20] <asac> ajmitch: i think a corrupted upload prevents new uploads to revu :)
[10:21] <asac> ajmitch: for bluekuja that is
[10:21] <asac> gtorrent-viewer ;)
[10:21] <asac> isn't incoming queue cleaned up when something with bad checksum is injected?
[10:23] <ajmitch> no, it's a fairly simple setup
[10:24] <asac> k thank you
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> some interest in bug #110049
[10:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110049 in firefox "Firefox needs a better clue file" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110049
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> good.
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> wait a second.
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: if you want to help, you can offer to mentor as well on the bug report
[10:30] <asac> well done :)
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i've got two people
[10:31] <asac> i think people that are interested in helping will probably end up here anyway :)
[10:32] <asac> so maybe its less confusing if you take the dedicated lead to get them started ;)
[10:32] <asac> what do you think?
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i will
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm in the process of fixing my bzr confilct
[10:32] <asac> probably a good excercise :)
[10:33] <asac> i am now out for a few minutes
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i hope that these people have feisty or better machines
[10:34] <asac> probably they wil
[10:34] <asac> l
[10:40] <Admiral_Chicago> yep, got the latest clue files
[10:40] <Admiral_Chicago> brb
[10:49] <asac> fine
[11:11] <AlexLatchford> grrr, my bookmarks have disappeared.
[11:12] <AlexLatchford> hmm and some plugins have lost settings..
[11:12] <AlexLatchford> (bookmarks restored from backup files)..
[11:14] <bluekuja> ajmitch: thanks ;)
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago>  AlexLatchford probably a corrupted profile
[11:14] <bluekuja> asac: thanks too for reporting it to andrew ;)
[11:14] <AlexLatchford> well it reset them to the default bookmarks..
[11:14] <AlexLatchford> I am thinking it was the -mt update..
[11:15] <asac> AlexLatchford: which mt update?
[11:15] <AlexLatchford> today's
[11:15] <AlexLatchford> or yesterday's
[11:15] <asac> what version is it?
[11:16] <AlexLatchford> 2.0.0.3+2.ng-0mt.6
[11:16] <AlexLatchford> I think
[11:16] <asac> did you use any .ng release before?
[11:16] <AlexLatchford> I updated from John's repository a few days back
[11:17] <AlexLatchford> I was using the standard ubuntu before that
[11:17] <asac> did it break at that time?
[11:17] <asac> or just now?
[11:17] <AlexLatchford> during the first update though, just after I added the repository the dom-inspector broke synaptic
[11:17] <AlexLatchford> it just broke today
[11:22] <asac> are certs broken as well?
[11:23] <asac> https?
[11:23] <asac> e.g. asks for certs that are valid ?
[11:24] <AlexLatchford> yes, it alerted me
[11:25] <AlexLatchford> but they are not broken I dont think
[11:32] <asac> yes alert means we lost the default CA certs somewhere *broken*
[11:32] <asac> which is pretty serious bug
[11:33] <asac> damn ssl stuff is really broken
[11:33] <asac> what plugin settings did you loose?
[11:33] <bluekuja> gnight all
[11:34] <asac> maybe you lost some plugins? AlexLatchford ?
[11:34] <asac> bluekuja: night
[11:34] <bluekuja> asac: night ! cya tomorrow! ;)
[11:34] <asac> AlexLatchford: e.g. plugins installed globally?
[11:35] <AlexLatchford> erm, plugins and extensions I didnt seem to lose
[11:35] <AlexLatchford> just the settings for them
[11:38] <asac> hmm
[11:39] <asac> AlexLatchford: can you try to downgrade ... and see if upgrading back will show this problem again?
[11:39] <asac> e.g. for downgrade, just uninstall and install ubuntus version ... then go up to preview again :/
[11:39] <AlexLatchford> mind if I do it tomorrow..
[11:40] <AlexLatchford> did it not happen to you?
[11:41] <asac> nope
[11:41] <asac> just ssl problem
[11:41] <asac> if you say that its reproducible I would do a night shift i guess :)
[11:41] <asac> oh wait ... its already 2340 here ;)
[11:42] <AlexLatchford> ok, gimme half an hour
[11:42] <AlexLatchford> whats the current ubuntu version?
[11:42] <asac> cool
[11:42] <asac> current ubuntu is 2.0.0.3+1-ubuntu2 i guess
[11:43] <asac> yes its 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2
[11:43] <AlexLatchford>  sudo apt-get install firefox=2.0.0.3+1-ubuntu2
[11:43] <asac> yeah with proper version
[11:43] <asac> maybe be sure that you uninstall before
[11:44] <asac> not that there are any leftovers in /usr/lib/firefox /usr/share/firefox
[11:44] <asac> -> e.g. both dirs should not exist after uninstall
[11:44] <AlexLatchford> cool
[11:44] <AlexLatchford> I presume it will not affect .mozilla?
[11:44] <asac> no it should not
[11:44] <asac> anyway if you run preview releases :) ... its probably a good idea to backup that regularaly :)
[11:44] <AlexLatchford> ive backed it up anyway
[11:45] <AlexLatchford> yeah
[11:45] <asac> so you don't loose your bookmarks again :)
[11:45] <AlexLatchford> :)
[11:45] <asac> wait do bookmarks work at all for you now?
[11:45] <AlexLatchford> yes, they were just reset
[11:45] <AlexLatchford> to default
[11:45] <AlexLatchford> so basically nothing, homepage with changed to the feisty release notes
[11:45] <AlexLatchford> s/with/was
[11:48] <AlexLatchford> okay beginning install process again, (for ubuntu version :))
[11:48] <AlexLatchford> shall I reinstall all the plugins after the install for the ubuntu versions?
[11:48] <AlexLatchford> (flash, java, dom-inspector, themes etc.)
[11:50] <AlexLatchford> hmm..
[11:51] <AlexLatchford> http://82.44.193.109/error.txt
[11:52] <AlexLatchford> I removed the directories, or should I have just emptied them
[11:56] <asac> which directories?
[11:56] <asac> plugins?
[11:56] <AlexLatchford> /usr/share/firefox & /usr/lib/firefox
[11:57] <asac> ah ... yeah ... i think that was right :)
[11:57] <asac> was there leftover?
[11:57] <AlexLatchford> ?
[11:57] <asac> did they still exist after you uninstalled firefox?
[11:57] <AlexLatchford> no I removed then using rm
[11:58] <AlexLatchford> (I mean yes, they existed, but I removed them manually)
[11:58] <asac> ah ok
[11:58] <asac> hmm
[11:58] <asac> any idea what was in there?
[11:58] <asac> if not don't bother ;)
[11:58] <AlexLatchford> nah, I didn't do an ls
[11:58] <asac> too bad ;)
[11:58] <asac> anyway ... lets see if you can reproduce
[11:58] <asac> :)
[11:59] <AlexLatchford> well I cannot get the ubuntu version to install..
[11:59] <asac> because of what reasons?
[11:59] <AlexLatchford> http://82.44.193.109/error.txt
[11:59] <asac> he?
[11:59] <asac> ah maybe use an explicit mirror
[11:59] <asac> e.g. us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <AlexLatchford> unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/firefox': No such file or directory
[12:00] <asac> sounds bad ... you did remove firefox (with apt or so) right?
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> It appears to download the file fine, but not unpack..
[12:01] <AlexLatchford> I removed firefox using apt-get remove firefox
[12:01] <asac> when do you get http://82.44.193.109/error.txt ?
[12:01] <AlexLatchford> when running the command on the first line
[12:01] <asac> which command? 'firefox' ?
[12:02] <AlexLatchford> sudo apt-get install firefox=2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2
[12:02] <AlexLatchford> shall I try to make the directory it says it cannot manually..
[12:02] <asac> hmm you can try ... but sounds wierd
[12:03] <asac> so do you see firefox being downloaded?
[12:04] <asac> otherwise maybe clean your apt cache
[12:04] <asac> with apt-get clean
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> if I make the directory it installs
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> seems like a small problem with the installer..
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> as it says it cannot create /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[12:05] <asac> i guess you had still some package with installed files in /usr/lib/firefox
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> whereas if I just create /usr/lib/firefox
[12:05] <asac> ... which are now broken :)
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> I removed the entire directory..
[12:05] <asac> does dpkg -S firefox
[12:05] <asac> bring anything up other than the firefox packages?
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> -trunk packages also
[12:05] <asac> ok that is sane
[12:06] <asac> they should be /usr/lib/firefox-trunk only
[12:06] <asac> and share
[12:06] <asac> anything else?
[12:06] <AlexLatchford> mozilla-firefox-locale, -dbg packages also
[12:06] <asac> why where locale packages not removed?
[12:06] <asac> they should have been removed when removing firefox
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> hmm..
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> I thought they had been
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> probably have been reinstalled with it..
[12:08] <asac> ok ... does it work?
[12:08] <asac> now?
[12:08] <asac> e.g. starts et al?
[12:08] <AlexLatchford> yes, it works fine
[12:08] <AlexLatchford> I think it was an error in the dpkg script
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> it was saying that it couldnt find /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> ..but when I created /usr/lib/firefox it installed fine..
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> but now here is not folder inside that called firefox..
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> so it was not needed..
[12:09] <asac> i guess it tried to create the link
[12:09] <asac> e.g. try
[12:10] <asac> ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
[12:10] <asac> its a link
[12:10] <asac> which probably failed to be created
[12:10] <AlexLatchford> hmm okay
[12:10] <asac> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox should be the main programm
[12:10] <AlexLatchford> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-05-03 23:03 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox
[12:10] <asac> nevertheless completely wierd
[12:10] <asac> yes right
[12:10] <asac> thats the same
[12:11] <asac> i only can think that there was still some extension or so that installs in both firefox and iceape or thunderbird
[12:11] <AlexLatchford> so should I install the plugins now, then upgrade?
[12:11] <asac> yeah ... ;)
[12:11] <AlexLatchford> :) gimme a few minutes
[12:16] <asac> ok i tracked the ssl problem
[12:16] <asac> now gimme confidence about the rest :)
[12:16] <AlexLatchford> good good
[12:16] <AlexLatchford> :)
[12:16] <AlexLatchford> Well the update was done via sudo apt-get install -f
[12:17] <AlexLatchford> because the previous update has broken the dom-inspector plugin
[12:19] <AlexLatchford> hmm.. seems to work okay now..
[12:20] <AlexLatchford> how do I get the firefox version without typing it out from Synaptic
[12:21] <asac> ah ok ... dom-inspector have have been bad depends
[12:21] <asac> ?
[12:21] <asac> dpkg -l firefox
[12:21] <asac> ;)
[12:21] <asac> if you can't see all of the version (e.g. too long) :
[12:21] <asac> # COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l firefox
[12:21] <asac> will do the trick
[12:22] <asac> no idea about synaptic
[12:22] <asac> just used it once some years back and when it crashed I went back to cmd line :)
[12:22] <AlexLatchford> lol
[12:22] <AlexLatchford> it is rather useful for finding packages
[12:23] <AlexLatchford> I am gradually switching for most things to cmd line though
[12:23] <AlexLatchford> okay, I think it must have been the dom-inspector issue..
[12:23] <AlexLatchford> which has been ironed out..
[12:23] <asac> ok ... fine
[12:24] <asac> hmm for me dom-inspector gets removed when i purge firefox
[12:24] <asac> though i use aptitude which is way smarter then apt-get  :)
[12:25] <AlexLatchford> :P
[12:25] <asac> so if you switch to cmdline probably get used to aptitude directly
[12:25] <AlexLatchford> yeah
[12:25] <asac> ;)
[12:26] <asac> your done with upgrade?
[12:26] <AlexLatchford> yeah
[12:26] <asac> maybe change some bookmarks first as well :)
[12:26] <asac> did it break anything?
[12:26] <AlexLatchford> nope
[12:26] <asac> ok
[12:27] <asac> i think bookmarks might get corrupted if you shut down X
[12:27] <AlexLatchford> not that I can see.. all plugins kept, extension settings the same
[12:27] <asac> without closing (though it should be really rare)
[12:27] <asac> k