[12:09] <kjaer> What would you like to edit ?
[12:10] <sahafeez> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAP-Samba_PDC_%28for_Linux_and_Windows%29#preview
[12:10] <sahafeez> they forget a few little things, like make sure php is enabled ;)
[12:11] <kjaer> That should definatly be added to the article.
[12:11] <sahafeez> ok, doing it now
[12:32] <sahafeez> ok, is it just me or does that doc above seem to require you to have a root user setup
[01:10] <sahafeez> ok, i just did something really dumb. i nuked my /etc/group file.
[01:11] <sahafeez> can anyone pastbin theirs to me less the users.
[02:23] <Nafallo> hmm
[02:23] <Nafallo> I should have looked here earlier and mentioned group- :-P
[05:46] <bigredradio> I'm trying to setup postfix thru webmin. It appears postqueue -p is hanging. Anyone run into this problem?
[01:36] <Skaag> i've installed mysql-server-5 in my ubuntu server, and I told it to bind to all interfaces
[01:36] <Skaag> but my other servers can't connect to it
[01:36] <Skaag> any ideas?
[01:38] <Nafallo> netstat -ltn | grep whatportmysqluses...
[01:38] <Skaag> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3306            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[01:38] <Nafallo> Skaag: firewall?
[01:38] <ivoks> so, you can telnet to 3306?
[01:38] <Skaag> yes I can telnet and telnet connects
[01:39] <Skaag> no firewalls
[01:39] <ivoks> did you set up a user to be able to conect from other hosts?
[01:39] <Nafallo> well, I use psql, so have no idea :-)
[01:39] <Skaag> yes
[01:39] <Skaag> actually!
[01:39] <Skaag> ssh to that host does not work as well
[01:39] <ivoks> not ssh
[01:39] <ivoks> mysql user
[01:39] <Skaag> so this now seems more like a general problem
[01:40] <Skaag> yes there is a mysql user
[01:40] <Skaag> darkstar is my new ubuntu-server machine
[01:40] <ivoks> Skaag: does that user has % or localhost for host?
[01:40] <Skaag> fry can not connect to darkstar 
[01:40] <Skaag> it has %
[01:40] <Skaag> (any host should be able to connect)
[01:41] <ivoks> oh, you said ssh doesn't work also...
[01:41] <Skaag> yes
[01:41] <Skaag> they are on the same switch
[01:41] <Skaag> and there is no firewall
[01:41] <ivoks> network problem? can you access to you network from that computer?
[01:41] <Skaag> must be some networking issue
[01:41] <ivoks> (ubuntu doesn't have ssh service by default)
[01:41] <Skaag> the world can access both computers, and both can access the world
[01:41] <Skaag> but not each other
[01:41] <Skaag> I installed openssh-server
[01:41] <ivoks> netmask?
[01:42] <ivoks> can you ping/traceroute/nmap other host?
[01:48] <Skaag> PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:48] <Skaag> 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=171 ms
[01:49] <Skaag> this is for darkstar: inet addr:80.179.151.1  Bcast:80.179.151.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[01:50] <ivoks> not google
[01:50] <ivoks> other host
[01:50] <Skaag> and this is for fry: inet addr:80.179.151.50  Bcast:80.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[01:50] <ivoks> fry/darkstar
[01:50] <Skaag> nmap from .50 to .1 correctly lists the open services
[01:50] <ivoks> Bcast:80.255.255.255 - are you sure you want this?! :)
[01:50] <Skaag> probably the problem then!
[01:50] <ivoks> probably not, but still a bad idea
[02:04] <ivoks> i guess it worked
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> when running fsck.ext3, is fsck.ext3 -fcvF a good thing to run?
[02:08] <ivoks> well...
[02:09] <ivoks> i don't see what harm it can do
[02:09] <ivoks> except -f
[02:09] <ivoks> don't fsck mounted volume
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> i ran with -D and was going 26 hours later, so i thought i'd check
[02:09] <ivoks> heh
[02:10] <ivoks> anyway... have a good day :)
[02:41] <Skaag> i'm back
[02:41] <Skaag> buggery...!
[02:44] <Skaag> ok so it was not a problem with the broadcast
[02:44] <Skaag> I still can not connect from 80.179.151.2-255 -> 80.179.151.1
[02:44] <Skaag> or the other way around
[02:45] <dj-fu> lol
[02:45] <dj-fu> learn2netowrk
[02:46] <Skaag> teach me oh master
[02:46] <Skaag> 80.179.151.1 : eth0 = 212.199.212.220 (external nic)
[02:46] <Skaag> the 80.179.151.1 is on eth1 and is an internal nic
[02:46] <Skaag> ip_forward = 1
[02:46] <Skaag> and it works - hosts in the 80.179.151.1/24 network can access the internet, and be accessed
[02:47] <Skaag> but they can not connect to 80.179.151.1 to services
[02:47] <dj-fu> is it natted?
[02:47] <dj-fu> what kind of network are you tryin to setup?
[02:48] <Skaag> it's not natted
[02:48] <Skaag> 80.179.151.x is a real network, routed through 212.199.212.220
[02:48] <dj-fu> ah
[02:48] <dj-fu> acls, firewalling?
[02:49] <Skaag> no firewall
[02:49] <Skaag> no acls
[02:49] <Skaag> I can ssh from the world to 80.179.151.1
[02:49] <Skaag> but not from the network
[02:49] <Skaag> the network can also be ssh'd into
[02:50] <Skaag> it's just between my ubuntu server and the rest of the boxes on that network
[02:50] <dj-fu> checked your configure for netmask/network/broadcast settings?
[02:50] <dj-fu> configuration*
[02:50] <Skaag> yes they seem fine, I will show them here:
[02:50] <Skaag>           inet addr:80.179.151.1  Bcast:80.179.151.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:50] <Skaag> this is for my ubuntu-server box
[02:51] <Skaag>           inet addr:80.179.151.50  Bcast:80.179.151.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:51] <Skaag> this is for one of the other boxes
[02:52] <dj-fu> and network address? configured that?
[02:52] <dj-fu> nopaste your /etc/network/interfaces
[02:53] <Skaag> ok
[02:53] <Skaag> what's a paste server you prefer?
[02:54] <mzungu> sorry guys - just to jump in - you have a whole class 'c' range?
[02:54] <Skaag> yes
[02:54] <mzungu> your mask is for 256 addys
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> /24
[02:54] <mzungu> lucky you!
[02:54] <Skaag> yep
[02:54] <Skaag> why?
[02:54] <mzungu> sorry for interupting
[02:54] <Skaag> that's ok
[02:55] <mzungu> i thought that was possibly the mistake
[02:56] <dj-fu> Skaag: rafb.net/paste is fine
[03:10] <Skaag> http://rafb.net/p/nVMVNY78.html
[03:11] <Skaag> two files in there
[03:11] <Skaag> top one is the gateway
[03:19] <dj-fu> Skaag: put network 80.179.151.0
[03:19] <dj-fu> in the client configuration at the bottom there
[03:20] <Skaag> and broadcast?
[03:20] <ivoks> still network problems?
[03:20] <ivoks> network 80.179.151.0
[03:20] <Skaag> yah
[03:20] <ivoks> broadcast 80.179.151.255
[03:20] <ivoks> netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:21] <Skaag> how do I apply this without rebooting the box?
[03:21] <ivoks>  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:24] <Skaag> will it disconnect me?
[03:24] <Skaag> ok it did not disconnect me
[03:25] <Skaag> now what?
[03:25] <ivoks> check status with ifconfig
[03:26] <Skaag> looks mostly the same
[03:26] <Skaag> the client can connect to other clients on the network, by the way
[03:26] <Skaag> also, it used to be able to connect to this machine before it became an ubuntu-server
[03:28] <ivoks> so, from other machine you can see open ports on ubuntu server?
[03:28] <Skaag> yes if I nmap it
[03:28] <Skaag> if I do networking restart on the ubuntu-server it tells me this:
[03:28] <Skaag>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[03:28] <Skaag> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[03:28] <Skaag> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[03:28] <Skaag>    ...done
[03:28] <Skaag> I think it does this for the eth1:5 and eth1:6 entries I have in there
[03:29] <ivoks> Skaag: ok, so you can see open ports on ubuntu-server
[03:29] <Skaag> and in dmesg, related to this, I get this:
[03:29] <Skaag> [157270.606962]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[03:29] <Skaag> [157270.756498]  eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[03:29] <ivoks> Skaag: did you try telneting to those ports?
[03:29] <Skaag> yah I can see the ports are open
[03:29] <Skaag> yes, I can telnet but no communication occures
[03:30] <ivoks> i see...
[03:30] <Skaag> it accepts the connection and then drops it
[03:30] <ivoks> could you comment out all other connections except the one you are trying to connect
[03:30] <ivoks> ie dsiable eth1:x
[03:30] <ivoks> and leave only eth1
[03:31] <Skaag> that will stop my mail services :-(
[03:33] <ivoks> ok
[03:33] <ivoks> could you then add output of ifconfig somewhere so i could take a look at it?
[03:34] <Skaag> sure
[03:35] <Skaag> http://rafb.net/p/HfNufi56.html
[03:36] <ivoks> and which address doesn't work?
[03:36] <ivoks> eth1:5?
[03:38] <Skaag> any of them, from the network
[03:39] <ivoks> and output of route -n is...? :)
[03:46] <Skaag> route -n:
[03:46] <Skaag> http://rafb.net/p/peGt1F12.html
[03:48] <ivoks> i guess none of your servers trying to connect to ubuntu is on .60-.65
[03:49] <Skaag> no
[03:49] <ivoks> this looks ok...
[03:49] <ivoks> well... tcpdump?
[03:49] <Skaag> ok
[03:50] <Skaag> ok I used netcat
[03:50] <Skaag> nc -l -p 70
[03:50] <Skaag> I then connected from fry -> darkstar
[03:51] <Skaag> I type test on fry, I see it in darkstar!
[03:51] <Skaag> I type ACK on darkstar, I do not see it on fry!
[03:51] <ivoks> firewall, must be
[03:52] <Skaag> there are the only rules in the FW:
[03:52] <Skaag> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[03:52] <Skaag> target     prot opt source               destination         
[03:52] <Skaag> DROP       tcp  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           tcp dpt:445 
[03:52] <Skaag> DROP       tcp  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           tcp dpt:16536 
[03:52] <Skaag> the other chains are ACCEPT and empty
[03:52] <ivoks> this is forward, nothing to do with your problem
[03:52] <ivoks> and on that non-ubuntu server?
[03:53] <Skaag> there the FW is completely empty
[03:53] <Skaag> and all on ACCEPT policy
[03:54] <[miles] > guys, anyone with a large quanity of spam in one mbox?
[03:54] <Skaag> I use Maildir
[03:54] <Skaag> no mbox here
[03:54] <ivoks> Skaag: could you upload your /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:54] <ivoks> [miles] : i had, but killed it very nicely
[03:54] <[miles] > lol
[03:55] <[miles] > I've just setup a pyzor server
[03:55] <Skaag>  http://rafb.net/p/nVMVNY78.html
[03:55] <[miles] > but I need submitters of hashes to it
[03:55] <ivoks> i do it with postgrey
[03:55] <Skaag> [miles] : I will be happy to help! I do have tons of spam somewhere
[03:56] <[miles] > ok
[03:56] <[miles] > In exchage, u can clear via the server if u wish
[03:56] <[miles] > one moment
[03:56] <ivoks> ubuntu is gateway?
[03:56] <[miles] > ...
[03:56] <Skaag> yes
[03:56] <Skaag> clear?
[03:57] <Skaag> ivoks: yes the gateway is the ubuntu-server
[03:57] <Skaag> [miles] : let me know how to set it up
[03:57] <[miles] > ok, back
[03:58] <[miles] > Skaag: just do a simple : sudo apt-get install pyzor
[03:58] <Skaag> I already have pyzor
[03:58] <[miles] > ah
[03:58] <[miles] > ok
[03:58] <[miles] > well
[03:58] <ivoks> Skaag: add network 80.179.151.0 to all your eth1*
[03:58] <[miles] > do everything as normal user yeah
[03:58] <Skaag> ivoks: ok sec
[03:58] <[miles] > mkdir ~/.pyzor
[03:58] <[miles] > then create a file called ~/.pyzor/servers
[03:58] <ivoks> Skaag: and broadcast 80.179.151.255
[03:59] <[miles] > and put in it
[03:59] <[miles] > 195.77.190.21:24441
[03:59] <[miles] > then do a
[03:59] <[miles] > pyzor ping
[03:59] <[miles] > and tell me the response
[04:02] <[miles] > 1178200907,Thu May  3 16:01:47 2007,anonymous,212.199.xxx.xxxx,ping,'',200
[04:02] <[miles] > ok
[04:02] <[miles] > cool
[04:02] <[miles] > jeje
[04:02] <Skaag> miles:
[04:02] <Skaag> 66.250.40.33:24441      (200, 'OK')
[04:02] <Skaag> 195.77.190.21:24441     (200, 'OK')
[04:02] <[miles] > perfect
[04:02] <[miles] > right, Skaag I'm gonna add authentification to it shortly
[04:02] <Skaag> [miles] : you want to join forces on a project I am doing called DoNotPost.com? :)
[04:02] <[miles] > but ftm, it's open ok
[04:03] <[miles] > Skaag: tell me about it
[04:03] <Skaag> ok the idea is that on the web page for that project, javascript produces a SHA-1 of your email address
[04:03] <Skaag> so we never really keep email addresses of people
[04:03] <Skaag> to this SHA-1 + password, you keep "bits" 
[04:04] <[miles] > k
[04:04] <Skaag> such as: age below 18, age below 16, no spam at all, no pills, no pharma, no casino, etc.
[04:04] <Skaag> then telemarketers can consult us with SHA-1's and get those bits
[04:04] <Skaag> not really get, just ask the status of a specific bit
[04:04] <ivoks> and spam whole world? :)
[04:05] <Skaag> well, look at it this way..:
[04:05] <[miles] > lol
[04:05] <Skaag> they ALREADY have your email!
[04:05] <Skaag> at least if they come and ask, they might not email you
[04:05] <ivoks> maybe, but i don't get spam
[04:05] <Skaag> because they don't want complaints
[04:05] <Skaag> you'r right, I don't get spam either :-)
[04:05] <[miles] > Skaag: this is your company, NSA?
[04:05] <Skaag> spamassasin, pyzor, and fuzzyocr are doing a great job
[04:05] <Skaag> yes
[04:06] <[miles] > Skaag: ok, 1st... lets try this server
[04:06] <Skaag> ivoks: why? :)
[04:07] <[miles] > Skaag: jeje, cos I must test it out... also, I'm not the owner of the company I work for.. just a SA and programmer
[04:07] <[miles] > Skaag: but they're very very open to all my sugestions
[04:07] <[miles] > Skaag: you have SA and a box full of spam?
[04:07] <ivoks> so anyone helping them is spamer too
[04:07] <ivoks> :D
[04:07] <Skaag> I have the domain for a long time
[04:08] <Skaag> I bought it around the time the US presented the DoNotCall law & program, remember that?
[04:08] <Skaag> but I never really did anything with it
[04:08] <[miles] > Skaag: can you do a report on your spam, and it should automatically report to my server
[04:08] <Skaag> how do I do that?
[04:08] <[miles] > Skaag: ok, you have an IMAP folder or mbox?
[04:09] <Skaag> a Maildir folder
[04:09] <[miles] > Skaag: the messages are in indervidual files?
[04:09] <Skaag> with lots of email files in it
[04:09] <[miles] > ok
[04:09] <Skaag> yah individual files.
[04:09] <[miles] > try this:
[04:09] <[miles] > pyzor report </some/file
[04:10] <Skaag> done
[04:10] <[miles] > yep
[04:10] <[miles] > worked
[04:10] <[miles] > so
[04:10] <Skaag> that's real spam
[04:10] <[miles] > ok, now
[04:10] <[miles] > if you have a folder full of it
[04:11] <[miles] > do that for all the messages
[04:11] <[miles] > u know I only get the hash yeah...
[04:11] <[miles] > not the email
[04:11] <Skaag> yah it's spam anyway who cares :)
[04:11] <[miles] > ok, now to confirm it registered in our DB
[04:12] <[miles] > with the same message, do:
[04:12] <[miles] > pyzor check </that/file
[04:14] <[miles] > Skaag: I'm just gonna run out to take a coffee.... I'll be back shortly ok
[04:14] <Skaag> i'm going to report all my files
[04:14] <[miles] > to my server?
[04:14] <Skaag> yah
[04:15] <[miles] > Skaag: ok, thank you
[04:15] <[miles] > Skaag: can I query u when I come back?
[04:15] <Skaag> 66.250.40.33:24441      (200, 'OK')     1       0
[04:15] <Skaag> 195.77.190.21:24441     (200, 'OK')     1       0
[04:15] <Skaag> what does this mean?
[04:15] <[miles] > that means it registered in both servers
[04:15] <[miles] > the message
[04:15] <Skaag> sure man and my email is skaag@skaag.net if you ever need any help with this!
[04:15] <Skaag> in case i'm not here when you'r back
[04:15] <[miles] > ok nice
[04:16] <[miles] > lionel: dude, wake up and read above :P
[04:16] <[miles] > lionel: bonjour ;)
[04:16] <lionel> hi !
[04:16] <lionel> I just arrived in from of my computer :)
[04:16] <lionel> let me read :)
[04:18] <lionel> [miles] : what I should see ?
[04:25] <Skaag> he's gone to drink
[04:25] <[miles] > lionel: you doing much anti spam fighting up there north of me
[04:25] <Skaag> ah back
[04:25] <[miles] > ayeeeee
[04:25] <[miles] > Skaag: did you do reporting?
[04:26] <lionel> I use amavis-new for antispam
[04:26] <lionel> with pyzor, razor, spamassassi
[04:26] <[miles] > ah ok
[04:26] <[miles] > lionel: I've setup a pyzor server
[04:26] <[miles] > lionel: I'm in need of hashes
[04:27] <[miles] > lionel: of known spam tho
[04:27] <Skaag> [miles] : do you see me reporting now?
[04:27] <lionel> [miles] : I may have some :)
[04:28] <[miles] > Skaag: no
[04:28] <Skaag> [miles] : help me out, I did this but it wait for something:
[04:28] <Skaag> find . -type f -exec pyzor report < '{}' ;
[04:28] <[miles] > find . -type f -exec pyzor report < {} \;
[04:28] <Skaag> ah without the ticks..
[04:29] <Skaag> bash: {}: No such file or directory
[04:29] <Skaag> oops sec
[04:29] <[miles] > :-\
[04:29] <Skaag> no, same problem
[04:29] <Skaag> weird one
[04:29] <[miles] > one sec
[04:29] <ivoks> find . -type f -exec pyzor report < {} ';'
[04:30] <[miles] > find . -type f -exec pyzor report {} \;
[04:30] <[miles] > Skaag: ensure that it's not finding non-email files tho!
[04:31] <Skaag> there's only email files in that directory
[04:31] <[miles] > k
[04:31] <Skaag> do you see reports now?
[04:31] <[miles] > nope
[04:32] <Skaag> so it's not working
[04:32] <Skaag> pyzor needs the emails piped into it I guess
[04:32] <[miles] > Skaag: whats pyzor showing u on screen?
[04:32] <Skaag> with <
[04:32] <Skaag> nothing
[04:32] <Skaag> it waits for input
[04:32] <[miles] > :-\
[04:32] <Skaag> from stdin
[04:33] <ivoks> right
[04:33] <ivoks> find . -type f -exec echo {} | pyzor report ';'
[04:33] <ivoks> no
[04:33] <ivoks> find . -type f -exec cat {} | pyzor report ';'
[04:33] <ivoks> or xargs
[04:34] <[miles] > or try pyzor report < *.eml    for example
[04:34] <[miles] > or whatever extension they have
[04:36] <[miles] > lionel: anything you can supply me with?
[04:36] <lionel> I have a folder full of spam. How can I help you ?
[04:37] <lionel> (full meaning about 2500)
[04:37] <[miles] > ok, lionel
[04:37] <[miles] > is it in mbox format?
[04:37] <lionel> non, it is a maildir
[04:37] <[miles] > you got a pyzor client installed?
[04:38] <Skaag> why would somebody use mbox format... so dangerous...
[04:38] <lionel> yes !
[04:38] <[miles] > ok, if you add 195.77.190.21:24441
[04:38] <[miles] > to your servers file
[04:38] <[miles] > then do a pyzor report < file
[04:38] <[miles] > then do a pyzor check < file
[04:38] <[miles] > Skaag: it's still used
[04:39] <Skaag> yah I know, too bad for the users...
[04:39] <[miles] > nod
[04:39] <Skaag> I remember 6 years ago I had an mbox, it got corrupted and I lost mail
[04:39] <[miles] > jeje
[04:40] <[miles] > Skaag: you still can't get the mail hashes sent no?
[04:40] <Skaag> still
[04:40] <Skaag> but just a sec.
[04:40] <[miles] > Skaag: did u try < *
[04:42] <lionel> [miles] : running
[04:42] <[miles] > lionel: ok, I'll look at the logs
[04:43] <[miles] > lionel: mmm nothing
[04:43] <[miles] > lionel: did u do a ping?
[04:43] <Skaag> [miles] : yah <* will never work...
[04:43] <Skaag> lionel: what did you use to send him the hashes?
[04:44] <[miles] > Skaag: I ain't got any off him yet
[04:44] <lionel> [miles] : rah, it took another server...
[04:44] <[miles] > jeje
[04:45] <[miles] > actually, lionel if u want to check also, you can... I'll be adding auth to it shortly, but if u create a user and key, I'll add it
[04:45] <[miles] > same goes for u Skaag
[04:45] <[miles] > lionel: with you being not so far away, it should be quite quick
[04:46] <lionel> when I will try why it took the bad server, it should be quick :)
[04:46] <[miles] > ?
[04:47] <lionel> \o/
[04:47] <lionel> running on your server now
[04:48] <[miles] > ah
[04:48] <[miles] > now
[04:48] <[miles] > yeh, that looks a frenchish IP if ever I saw one
[04:48] <lionel> :)
[04:48] <[miles] > u getting any time outs?
[04:48] <lionel> I have seen none
[04:49] <[miles] > jaja
[04:49] <[miles] > I am
[04:49] <[miles] > I'm reporting atm also from a mbox
[04:50] <[miles] > lionel: hows france today, it's pissing it down and dark here in Barcelona
[04:50] <lionel> same here
[04:50] <[miles] > :-|
[04:51] <[miles] > I was thinking of going to france last weekend, just to pass a night
[04:51] <lionel> I am thinking of going to spain next week for vacations :)
[04:51] <[miles] > ah yeah
[04:51] <[miles] > which part?
[04:51] <lionel> Sevilla :)
[04:51] <[miles] > wooo nice
[04:52] <[miles] > very very nice indeed
[04:52] <[miles] > fly yeah?
[04:52] <lionel> yeah, car is tooo long
[04:52] <[miles] > nod
[04:52] <[miles] > very very long
[04:52] <[miles] > takes me 5 hours from here to Alicante / Valencia border
[04:52] <[miles] > so, sevilla.. pfff
[04:52] <[miles] > shit man
[04:52] <[miles] > mmmm
[04:53] <lionel> mappy.com told me 13h :-(
[04:53] <[miles] > 24 years, 5 months, 3 days, 2  hours and 49 minutes
[04:54] <[miles] > what I could reallllllllly do with, is a method of importing a pure hash file..
[04:54] <[miles] > you can create one with pyzor 
[04:54] <[miles] > but you can't import it from what I see
[04:54] <[miles] > much easier than all this reporting malarky
[04:54] <[miles] > for bulk
[04:54] <[miles] > evening spam hash drops, etc
[04:55] <[miles] > theres the digest command
[05:00] <Skaag> sorry i'm back
[05:00] <Skaag> what's up
[05:01] <[miles] > I want your hashes
[05:01] <[miles] > jeje
[05:01] <Skaag> ;-)
[05:01] <Skaag> i'm checking how to do this
[05:01] <[miles] > lionel has just completed his I think
[05:02] <lionel> [miles] : you're right :)
[05:02] <Skaag> how?
[05:04] <[miles] > Skaag: I have no idea what your doing wrong
[05:04] <[miles] > can you paste bin the dir your trying to report , a brief sample of the filenames or somthing?
[05:06] <[miles] > lionel: thanks for the reports btw
[05:07] <lionel> [miles] : no problem. My pleasure :)
[05:07] <[miles] > lionel: when u come to barcelona one day, I'll buy you a drink
[05:09] <lionel> :)
[05:11] <[miles] > lionel: you want to genkey ?
[05:11] <[miles] > lionel: and I'll add u as an autharized user
[05:13] <lionel> [miles] : why not!
[05:14] <[miles] > lol
[05:36] <Skaag> hey ivoks 
[05:36] <ivoks> hi
[05:38] <[miles] > any python programmers here?
[05:39] <[miles] > ivoks: 
[05:39] <[miles] > out u come
[05:39] <[miles] > :-)
[05:40] <ivoks> i'm not a python programmer
[05:40] <ivoks> i just program in python stuff i need; i don't know it very well to call my self programmer
[05:41] <[miles] > ivoks: mmm I program also, but not in python
[05:41] <[miles] > ivoks: not overly keen on what I see of the language to be honest
[05:42] <[miles] > ivoks: I'm trying to work out what parts of a email pyzor digests, and what it does not
[05:43] <ivoks> no, i will not download pyzor source :)
[05:43] <[miles] > damn predigest command fails
[05:44] <[miles] > on both my build, and ubuntu servers build
[05:44] <ivoks> ok, i downloaded
[05:44] <ivoks> so, what's on your mind?
[05:44] <[miles] > ivoks: well
[05:44] <[miles] > ivoks: I want to see how the hashes are created, so I can make other clients that can create the same hashes
[05:45] <[miles] > ivoks: create a file, which I can then import into pyzor servers db
[05:45] <ivoks> beh...
[05:45] <ivoks> as i said, not a python programmer :)
[05:45] <[miles] > ivoks: jeje
[05:45] <[miles] > ivoks: me neither
[05:45] <[miles] > ivoks: it's using sha1
[05:46] <[miles] > ivoks: http://pastebin.ca/469128
[05:46] <ivoks> ok...
[05:46] <ivoks> it's opening /dev/random
[05:46] <ivoks> generates salt out of it
[05:47] <[miles] > http://milesbarry.info/COCINA.eml
[05:48] <[miles] > ivoks: can you try pyzor predigest < COCINA.eml
[05:48] <[miles] > please?
[05:48] <[miles] > it *should* show the lines that have been hashed
[05:48] <[miles] > but mine fails here as you saw
[05:49] <ivoks> mine too
[05:50] <[miles] > ivoks: see any reason why?
[05:51] <[miles] > http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-qa-packages@lists.debian.org/msg17607.html
[05:51] <[miles] > ah
[05:51] <ivoks> there you go
[05:52] <[miles] > mmm cunt is, I've applied other patches
[05:52] <[miles] > :-\
[05:52] <ivoks> heh, i got something...
[05:53] <ivoks> but i don't know if it is correct
[05:53] <ivoks> http://pastebin.ca/469136
[05:53] <ivoks> i doubt that's what you are looking for
[05:54] <[miles] > aye
[05:54] <[miles] > done it, patched my desktop client
[05:57] <[miles] > mmm
[05:57] <[miles] > still dont see what part of the .eml it uses to hash
[05:59] <[miles] > ivoks: wot u recon?
[06:01] <ivoks> i think i'm going to hit the bed now :)
[06:01] <[miles] > shite, it's 18:00
[06:01] <[miles] > ok, thanks ivoks lionel Skaag
[06:01] <ivoks> \wii [miles]  
[06:01] <[miles] > cuall2moro
[06:01] <ivoks> oh lol
[06:01] <[miles] > adios
[06:01] <ivoks> time for bed :)
[06:25] <bensherman> Hi all.
[08:38] <Nafallo> haha
[08:38] <ph1zzle> hey all
[08:38] <Nafallo> same people here :-)
[08:38] <lionel> :)
[08:38] <ph1zzle> I have a server running feisty, and I haev just setup lvm across three hard disks, I was wondering if there is a way I can make /etc/init.d/lvm recognize my setup and set it up for me upon system start?
[08:39] <shawarma> ph1zzle: It's not working that way now, you think?
[08:39] <Nafallo> ph1zzle: what version of Ubuntu is it? :-)
[08:39] <ph1zzle> feisty
[08:39] <ph1zzle> and shawarma no it is not
[08:39] <shawarma> ph1zzle: What goes wrong?
[08:39] <ph1zzle> I ran /etc/init.d/lvm start
[08:39] <ph1zzle> and then I looked and the drive was not mounted
[08:39] <shawarma> Is it in /etc/fstab ?
[08:39] <ph1zzle> I am not even sure where I tell it to mount to
[08:39] <ph1zzle> uh, no
[08:40] <shawarma> then it can't know where to mount it.
[08:40] <ph1zzle> if it was in /etc/fstab I though it might confuse mount
[08:40] <shawarma> ADd it to fstab and that's it.
[08:40] <Nafallo> ph1zzle: so your lvm isn't assembled when you arrive at the prompt?
[08:40] <shawarma> No, that's where that stuff is.
[08:40] <ph1zzle> Nafallo, I just set it up manually, I ran pvcreate/ vgcreate etc
[08:40] <Nafallo> yea, so? that wasn't my question :-)
[08:41] <Nafallo> and use UUID for LVM now btw :-)
[08:41] <ph1zzle> so for the drive in fstab I just enter /dev/<vg>/<lv> ?
[08:41] <Nafallo> it actually WORKS! :-D
[08:41] <ph1zzle> How do I get the UUID ?
[08:41] <shawarma> Nafallo: Why?
[08:41] <ph1zzle> nm
[08:41] <Nafallo> shawarma: because it TheRightWay(tm) ? :-)
[08:41] <ph1zzle> I just got it with blkid
[08:42] <shawarma> Nafallo: Meh.. The lvm path is almost a UUID. :-)
[08:43] <Nafallo> shawarma: :-P
[08:43] <ph1zzle> I just added "UUID=6944090d-1ceb-4030-a757-9ead7bd52798       /home/data      ext3    defaults        0       0" into fstab and re ran lvm and it still was not mounted
[08:43] <Nafallo> shawarma: with UUID I wouldn't need to edit fstab if I want to rename vg och lv ;-)
[08:44] <Nafallo> ph1zzle: sudo mount -a
[08:44] <Nafallo> ph1zzle: lvm doesn't do mounting.
[08:44] <shawarma> ph1zzle: lvm is not supposed to mount anything.
[08:44] <ph1zzle> ok, that worked
[08:44] <ph1zzle> now I am about to do a reboot, it should mount automatically after reboot?
[08:45] <ph1zzle> oh and lvm is not in /etc/rc[*] .d
[08:45] <Nafallo> yes
[08:45] <Nafallo> no, lvm is in initramfs.
[08:45] <ph1zzle> and lvm does not need to be in /etc/rc[*] .d?
[08:46] <ph1zzle> oh ok
[08:46] <ph1zzle> fair enough
[08:46] <Nafallo> or no, it's not.
[08:46] <Nafallo> it's in udev :-)
[08:46] <ph1zzle> ah
[08:46] <Nafallo> or something like that :-)
[08:46] <ph1zzle> ok
[08:46] <ph1zzle> yeah ok, it workedlol
[08:46] <ph1zzle> great, I appreciate the helpguys
[08:46] <ph1zzle> *help guys
[08:47] <Nafallo> np
[09:04] <ph1zzle> is there a way to tell feisty server not to load ipv6 module?
[09:05] <Nafallo> blacklist it
[09:06] <ph1zzle> where?
[09:06] <ph1zzle> I have done it about a year ago
[09:06] <ph1zzle> but I am looking over etc atm
[09:06] <Nafallo> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6 or something like that maybe? :-)
[09:06] <ph1zzle> I just simply have to touch that file
[09:07] <Nafallo> you have to write ipv6 in it to :-)
[09:07] <ph1zzle> ok
[10:22] <sahafeez> so now that i have a better understanding of ubuntu i figured i would do a new install and start fresh. booted the cd and told it to mount the existing lvm setup. it has been 20 mins now..
[10:28] <shawarma> sahafeez: Did you manage to salvage your group file?
[10:28] <sahafeez> hum, no idea. just booted the install prg. and it asked me if i wanted to use the current lvm setup. it is the lvm delay bug i think. 3 mins per and 7 slices so..
[10:33] <shawarma> sahafeez: Er, no, didn't you talk about you nuked /etc/group yesterday?
[10:33] <sahafeez> yes, got that back
[10:33] <shawarma> 01:10 < sahafeez> ok, i just did something really dumb. i nuked my /etc/group file.
[10:33] <sahafeez> yah. sorrry. long day and it is only 1333. i got that back
[10:34] <shawarma> Good. Not just by copying it from another machine, I trust?
[10:34] <sahafeez> yes, thats how. same ubuntu setup. same users
[10:34] <shawarma> Well, if you're sure everything was installed in the same order on those machine, you should be fine.
[10:35] <shawarma> Otherwise, you might run into... well.. funny issues along the way.
[10:35] <sahafeez> hum, well i am nuking that box right now so it does not matter. i have found 4 docs on ldap+samba on ubuntu and they are all wrong or missing something. i have put together what works and i will write it up and add it to the wiki when done
[10:36] <sahafeez> are the gid not the same per service
[10:36] <sahafeez> ?
[10:38] <shawarma> sahafeez: No.
[10:38] <shawarma> sahafeez: Not necessarily.
[10:38] <sahafeez> wow. i would call that a bug
[10:38] <shawarma> sahafeez: Some things run "adduser --system" or "addgroup --system" in their postinst script.
[10:38] <sahafeez> in *BSD the gid for servers are standard for 90% of the stuff
[10:40] <shawarma> 0-99 are always the same.
[10:40] <shawarma> Stuff like root, bin, news, admin..
[10:41] <shawarma> Generally stuff that doesn't belong to one single service, but are more administrative in character.
[10:41] <shawarma> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2.2
[10:41] <shawarma> There you go.
[10:41] <sahafeez> ok, thank you for the information. i am looking forward to getting this up and running. i am hoping to cut over from the w2k3 box this weekend.
[10:42] <shawarma> Cool.
[10:43] <sahafeez> we will see. i have even started on testing the groupware bit. 
[11:22] <nictuku> do you guys know any software for sharing internet connection that's focused on non-technical users ?
[11:23] <nictuku> I have a friend that lives in a Uni dorm with 100 computers, and they're all sharing an internet connection using a "Windows XP Server"
[11:24] <nictuku> so I guess if there was a very simple program that let a person 1) setup a local IP network 2) distribute IP's 3) share connection in a safe way 4) let the "administrator" mark a checkbox that would activate a QoS fair algorithm 5) create nice usage statistics
[11:24] <nictuku> if there isn't, I would consider creating one
[11:25] <nictuku> it could be either a simplified control panel using PyGTK, or a web control panel
[11:25] <sahafeez> 29mins to read the lvm. nasty bug.
[11:26] <sahafeez> or buy a linksys for $40
[11:28] <nictuku> yeah, agreed, although a linksys router won't have a stochastic fair queueing algorithm
[11:29] <sahafeez> depends. there is qos on some of them
[11:29] <sahafeez> the $70 one
[11:29] <nictuku> :-)