[12:01] <animimotus> why this line list me all python in deposit : aptitude search python |grep "i   "    ?
[12:01] <s1> can someone tell me where I set per application settings in beryl?
[12:01] <tarelerulz> I installed beryl with  synaptic and it seem to crash my computer. I get nothing ,but I white screen?
[12:01] <thelostpatrol> ok nevermind the links work but it doesn't bring the window to the forefront
[12:01] <Shelagh> Stormx2: does your script specify #!/bin/bash not just /bin/sh?
[12:01] <thelostpatrol> so i thought it wasn't working
[12:01] <kane77> nutellol, enemy isn't exact opposite of friendly.. rather hostile...
[12:01] <Nubbie> s1: join #ubuntu-effects
[12:01] <Nubbie> s1: or #beryl
[12:01] <s1> aha, thanks
[12:02] <shwag> how do I remove apt-get package along with all the extra junk it installed too?
[12:02] <cafuego> williammanda: Yes, and any other Intel em64t chips, and opterons.
[12:02] <Comrade-Sergei> sl #ubuntu-effects
[12:02] <SkynetMC> list
[12:02] <ashill> To anyone I'm getting the the error said "Cannot  stat /etc/X11/X  (No such file or directory)  Aborting..  any suggestions?
[12:02] <ashill> Im trying to load the GUI
[12:02] <nutellol> right said kane77
[12:02] <ashill> for the Ubuntu Server
[12:02] <nutellol> that's a new word for me :)
[12:03] <mat1980> ashill, it seems you have no server X
[12:03] <kane77> LjL, so you meant the /me something messages to announce away! oh I thought that you've meant the /away... I get that right..
[12:03] <Gamekiller77> good day all in this massive channel
[12:03] <erUSUL> ashill: it seems that Xorg main binary has disappear... do you have all required packages installed??
[12:03] <Gamekiller77> has any one setup moodle here
[12:03] <LjL> kane77: the /me, and the nickname changes
[12:03] <nutellol> open source enemy maybe :)
[12:03] <ashill> mat1980, how do i install server x
[12:03] <thelostpatrol> anyone know where i can get a tahoma font for ubuntu?
[12:03] <Comrade-Sergei> my sound randomly stops working and i have to reboot to fix how can i fix this? amarok says XINE cant initialize my sound drivers
[12:03] <cafuego> msttcorefonts
[12:03] <tarelerulz> I have never gotten beryl  to work right.
[12:03] <thelostpatrol> tare - mine works
[12:03] <thelostpatrol> i use it with fawn
[12:03] <ashill> erUSUL, I believe so , i did a update and upgrade for apt and did install ubuntu-dekstop, Im using the Ubuntu Server 7.04
[12:04] <nutellol> Comrade-Sergei, are you using feisty?
[12:04] <|Xabbu> Can anyone give me a hint why I get an errormessage tha the libstdc++-headers could not be found while running ./configure (of centerim) although I successfully installed both libstdc++5, libstdc++5-3.3-dev and libstdc++6, libstdc++6-dev??
[12:04] <Comrade-Sergei> nutellol yes
[12:04] <ashill> mat1980, whats the command to install server X?
[12:04] <Nubbie> ashill: its installed with ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <thelostpatrol> anyone know where i can get a tahoma font for ubuntu?
[12:04] <Shelagh> cafuego I have msttcorefonts and it doesn't include tahoma
[12:04] <nutellol> :S even to me it happen, i made the upgrade-manager,  i think it's better totally reiinstalling
[12:04] <Riyonuk> Can people make keygens on linux?
[12:05] <g0ow> would it be wise to just uninstall dapper, then install feisty off of liveCD?
[12:05] <ashill> Nubbie, hmm.
[12:05] <Comrade-Sergei> thelostpatrol synaptic of adept...?
[12:05] <magicmactel> does anyone know how to run evolution just for its calender - that is, without going through the mail setup wizard?
[12:05] <dustin> is ther a program to convert mp3 music files to audio
[12:05] <mat1980> ashill, I have to look for the packages you need, just a while
[12:05] <cafuego> Shelagh: Hmm. Do you have windows?
[12:05] <nutellol> i have some problems with alsa
[12:05] <Nubbie> thelostpatrol: find it on the internet.
[12:05] <Shelagh> cafuego no
[12:05] <thelostpatrol> well, that's not really narrowing it down.
[12:05] <Comrade-Sergei> nutellol i thought you were going to help me lol
[12:05] <bruenig> dustin, mp3 music files are audio
[12:05] <thelostpatrol> i tried, anyway... don't know where to look.
[12:05] <wilson_> Howdy.
[12:05] <ashill> mat1980, thanks!
[12:05] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: we heard you the first, second, third and fourth time
[12:06] <Shelagh> cafuego: but you told someone to install msttfcorefonts to get tahoma
[12:06] <josepcomas> hola a todos
[12:06] <Comrade-Sergei> sorry varient
[12:06] <wilson_> I have 6.04 and I upgraded rhythmbox from the 7.04 CD.  Everything but Rhythmbox was upgraded.  Should I be worried?
[12:06] <dustin> I mean mean music files that will play in a regular portable cd player
[12:06] <nutellol> lol :S that s the wrong thought
[12:06] <Gamekiller77> i need to add libgd2 to my LAMP is there any easy way to od this or will i have to recompile php?
[12:06] <thelostpatrol> wilson what version is your rhythmbox
[12:06] <Shelagh> cafuego: I have tahoma but I got it from cinelerra.
[12:06] <cafuego> Shelagh: The a google for TAHOMA.TTF should see you sorted.
[12:06] <thelostpatrol> mine is 0.10.0
[12:06] <variant> dustin: yes, just click "create audio cd" when you insert the blank disk
[12:06] <casey_> hi, i need some help again: how do i force the Kaffeine video player in Feisty to use vertical sync? (I'm using ATI proprietary drivers)
[12:06] <bruenig> dustin, get a decent burning application, and have it burn an audio disc and then drag and drop and click and point
[12:06] <procrastinator> hmm, I was just wondering if anyone knows of any good lists of things to install/configure on a fresh ubuntu install
[12:07] <variant> dustin: and add the mp3 files to the gui that appears
[12:07] <lethu> dustin, k3b supports automatic mp3 to cd conversion and burning
[12:07] <procrastinator> things like better fonts, codecs, etc
[12:07] <variant> dustin: then click burn
[12:07] <wilson_> thelostpatrol, it's the same.  But I don't have album art
[12:07] <procrastinator> i know there is ubuntuguide.org
[12:07] <cafuego> Shelagh: If you pop the .ttf file in ~/.fonts and run 'fc-cache' it'll start showing up in applications (for your account)
[12:07] <variant> lethu: so does the default ubuntu cd burner
[12:07] <wilson_> thelostpatrol, I was trying to upgrade so I could get the album art thing..
[12:07] <thelostpatrol> oh
[12:07] <thelostpatrol> yeah
[12:07] <procrastinator> and i would rather not use automatix/easyubuntu since it seems like they have begun to destroy things
[12:07] <thelostpatrol> i think it's something else not the version then, that's causing that
[12:07] <bruenig> procrastinator, begun?
[12:07] <variant> procrastinator: begun?? from day one :)
[12:07] <casey_> procrastinator: you don't need them anyway
[12:07] <thelostpatrol> because if the version is the same, it should be fine
[12:07] <lethu> variant, yah sorry : )
[12:07] <wilson_> thelostpatrol, ah.  okay thanks...
[12:07] <variant> lol bruenig
[12:07] <Nubbie> cafuego: what is the universal font directory again?? /usr/share/fonts or something?
[12:07] <variant> bruenig: yeah but i gave more info
[12:08] <bruenig> Nubbie, that is it
[12:08] <variant> ;)
[12:08] <thelostpatrol> do you have a placer for the album art, in the lower right?
[12:08] <bruenig> variant, subtlety the key to comedy though
[12:08] <thelostpatrol> maybe showing a cd case?
[12:08] <procrastinator> well, I say begun because I once used them, until i saw the error of my ways
[12:08] <casey_> et al: how do i enable vertical sync to prevent screen tearing altogether?
[12:08] <Comrade-Sergei> my audio drivers are not working suddenly how can i diagnose this further
[12:08] <Gamekiller77> any one for libgb2
[12:08] <Nubbie> thelostpatrol: thats a banshee plugin,
[12:08] <thelostpatrol> what is, album art?
[12:08] <procrastinator> and I've also found out i need little help installing things and moreso just peoples opinions on whats good to isntall
[12:08] <procrastinator> the rest i can figure out myself
[12:08] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: are there any errors ouput when you try to play or what? is there no sound but it appears to play?
[12:08] <Hamm_desktop> ATI Technologies Inc RV530 [Radeon X1600]    --   Fiesty 7.04   ... not compatible with the open-source ATI driver that comes with Ubuntu   .....  can anyone help me.....  :'(
[12:09] <variant> !ati | Hamm_desktop
[12:09] <ubotu> Hamm_desktop: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <Comrade-Sergei> variant well with kaffiene and rythmbox no , amaroK says xine cant initialize the drivers
[12:09] <thelostpatrol> is there a way to get my fonts to appear more crisp in ubuntu?
[12:09] <dustin> I inserted a blank disc an clicked on make an audio cd and it said mp3 was and unsupported audio format
[12:09] <Comrade-Sergei> variant it appears to play though
[12:10] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: i see
[12:10] <procrastinator> anyone?
[12:10] <cafuego> thelostpatrol: You can enable subpixel hinting, if that's not on yet.
[12:10] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: open a terminal and type "play /path/to/an/audio/file.mp3
[12:10] <thelostpatrol> cafuego, where do i find that
[12:10] <Comrade-Sergei> variant and itll do it like randomly, as in itll work then die
[12:10] <whtet> where can i check error message for network interface?
[12:10] <cafuego> thelostpatrol: System > Prefercnes > Fonts
[12:10] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: sounds bad.. mihgt be a bit of dodgey hardware.. dont know for sure yet
[12:10] <combatmode> where can i find riptide driver installation for tar files
[12:11] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: also type dmesg and see if there is anything regarding hte sound card in the output (or anything about alsa)
[12:11] <cafuego> It's not as good as on OSX, but it beats the pants off windows.
[12:11] <thelostpatrol> cafuego, it was on.
[12:11] <nuu> why does everyone seem to have a windows obsession
[12:11] <lethu> dustin, follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413625 and retry
[12:11] <Comrade-Sergei> variant it looks to play in a cli (granted is pretty cool) but no audio
[12:11] <nuu> i'll never understand that
[12:11] <combatmode> where can i find riptide driver installation for tar files?
[12:11] <thelostpatrol> nuu - a lot of people are recent converts
[12:12] <combatmode> nvm
[12:12] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: and dmesg?
[12:12] <GaiaX11> nuu: neither do I
[12:12] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: have you recently updated at all or made any other changes?
[12:12] <coolgeek> but im still in gnome.... but now when i run runlevel it says N 3
[12:12] <Comrade-Sergei> variant its very long
[12:12] <nn-laptop> is my file bin secure
[12:12] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: yes, try dmesg | less
[12:12] <nuu> cafuego: seriously, not bashing you or anything
[12:12] <coolgeek> ive changed my runlevel to 3, but im still booting into GUI... can some one help please?
[12:12] <thelostpatrol> i don't want windows... just tahoma. lol
[12:12] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: allows you to scroll the outoput
[12:12] <Comrade-Sergei> variant i installed beryl recently but its worked after that before
[12:12] <nuu> just wondering why is everyone just obsessed with comparisons
[12:12] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: shouldn't be an issue
[12:13] <GaiaX11> nuu: I have no win in my machine and I am so happy. I even forgot how a win machine look like :-)
[12:13] <cafuego> nuu: A fair amount of people expect to be able to make Ubuntu blur fonts much like WinXP does. Just pre-empting.
[12:13] <nuu> i mean, windows is a totally different operating system, aiming at different goals, and users
[12:13] <colbert> how do i show kernel version in terminal ?
[12:13] <variant> nuu: your the only one i can see talking about it :)
[12:13] <Comrade-Sergei> variant what am i looking for here?
[12:13] <coolgeek> please any one!
[12:13] <nuu> colbert: uname -r
[12:13] <variant> colbert: uname -a
[12:14] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: anything relating to your sound card or alsa
[12:14] <mat1980> ashill, there are too many packages to install. use the metapakage ubuntu-desktop as suggested by nubbie. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: scroll to the bottom wit hthe "end" key
[12:14] <eli_reu> new user here.  should i ever use the root terminal if i'm kind of a novice, or should i stick to the trgular command line and use sudo commands?
[12:14] <coolgeek> eli_reu: regular command line
[12:14] <eli_reu> err, regular
[12:14] <mat1980> ashill, or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop if you prefer kde
[12:14] <Shelagh> eli_reu: Use sudo
[12:15] <thelostpatrol> how do i install a ttf font?
[12:15] <ashill> mat1980, thank you for checking,  however I already executed what nubbie said
[12:15] <thelostpatrol> just drop it in a dir.?
[12:15] <eli_reu> coolgeek: i figured as much. thanks
[12:15] <ashill> mat1980, i will try that
[12:15] <coolgeek> eli_reu: no probs
[12:15] <GaiaX11> !sudo| eli_reu
[12:15] <ubotu> eli_reu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:15] <nuu> variant: i'm just observing things and the way the topic very often pops up
[12:15] <Comrade-Sergei> variant want me just paste bin it?
[12:15] <variant> nuu: yes i know :)
[12:15] <coolgeek> can some one tell me why even after editin inittab to give initdefualt a value of 3 im still bootin into GUI
[12:15] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: might be a good idea
[12:15] <derrin> A more Linux experienced friend gave me a way of converting .avi to .mpg using mencoder.  He did it and it worked.  I try it again today and it doesn't.  Can anyone out there advise me?  Details at:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18875/
[12:15] <procrastinator> hrmm
[12:16] <procrastinator> is there anyway to tell if you already have dma enabled on a cdrom drive?
[12:16] <nuu> variant: perhaps i'm getting obsessed with people being obsessed at this ;)
[12:16] <variant> procrastinator: hdparm -d /dev/diskdrive
[12:16] <ashill> mat1980, after that is done should i just hit   startx command or is there another one i should do?
[12:16] <variant> procrastinator: 1 = on 0 = off
[12:16] <thelostpatrol> how do i install a font in feisty?
[12:16] <bartzitz> hello, sound stopped working on my feisty laptop after upgrading to kernel to 2.6.20-15, open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing
[12:16] <Shelagh> coolgeek: Ind ebian variants the init 3 is a gui level
[12:16] <variant> procrastinator: put it in /usr/share/fonts at a guess
[12:16] <variant> !fonts | procrastinator
[12:16] <ubotu> procrastinator: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:17] <thelostpatrol> how do i install a TTF font in feisty? <--- more accurate question
[12:17] <procrastinator> variant: that tells you if its enabled, not enables it?
[12:17] <Comrade-Sergei> variant http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18876/
[12:17] <coolgeek> Shelagh: but so is init 2?
[12:17] <procrastinator> variant: why am i getting all this font stuff?
[12:17] <mat1980> ashill, sudo gdm should work
[12:17] <variant> procrastinator: yes, hdparm -d1 /dev/diskdrive to enable it
[12:17] <variant> procrastinator: wrong nick sorry
[12:17] <Shelagh> coolgeek: I'll just check the details.
[12:17] <|Xabbu> Hello, I tried to configure the latest snapshop of centerim (centerim-20070418.tar.gz). But I get an error that the libstdc++ headers could not be found. I have an Ubuntu 6.06.1.  I installed libstdc++5, libstdc++5-3.3-dev and libstdc++6, libstdc++6-dev. Can anyone give me a hint?
[12:17] <procrastinator> variant: if that enables it, is there anyway to tell if it was enabled beforehand
[12:17] <coolgeek> Shelagh: thanks very much
[12:17] <mat1980> ashill, however even startx should work.
[12:17] <procrastinator> variant: i presume it will reset upon restart?
[12:18] <phrontist> Nubbie: it still hangs, even in safe mode
[12:18] <thelostpatrol> how do i install a TTF font in feisty?
[12:18] <variant> procrastinator: yes, as i said before, hdparm -d /dev/disk will show if it's enabled or not. add a one to enable it specifically
[12:18] <coolgeek> Shelagh: this looks like it will work
[12:18] <coolgeek> Shelagh: this looks like it will work $sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:19] <variant> procrastinator: there should be an hdparm initscript i think or you can add the command to one of the existing startup scripts for that.. don't know what ubuntu uses for that
[12:19] <Shelagh> coolgeek: Yes it will but you won't be able to run in gui mode at all.
[12:19] <coolgeek> Shelagh: not even with startx ?
[12:19] <ryan_> Trying to get mythtv up and running.  I read through the community docs already.  lspci shows "ATI Technologies, unknown device", where can I start looking next?  Card is a ATI TV Wonder 650 (Not an all-in-wonder)
[12:19] <procrastinator> variant: yeah, i think i found the script
[12:19] <g0ow> is it possible for me to delete the dapper partition and then install feisty from liveCD without messing with the MBR?
[12:19] <nuu> thelostpatrol: see if http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275202 helps
[12:19] <variant> coolgeek: yes with startx
[12:19] <thelostpatrol> ok thank you
[12:19] <Comrade-Sergei> variant see anything?
[12:20] <coolgeek> variant: are you on the same convo as us?
[12:20] <Crooper> i need to know how to reset my driver for my sound card...
[12:20] <nuu> no problem, i'll be glad to serve as your google.com proxy anytime you need me again
[12:20] <variant> g0ow: yes, i'm not sure if the installer allows you to NOT install a bootloader though.. it should allow it
[12:20] <nuu> have a nice day!
[12:20] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: nope
[12:20] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: looks fine to me
[12:20] <bartzitz> how can i fix the sound? /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing after kernel upgrade, tried to symlink to pcmC0D6p, doesn't help
[12:20] <Shelagh> coolgeek: Yes you're right. but with the xsession settings
[12:20] <coolgeek> variant: are you saying i can boot straight into command line using this command $sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove and then if i want to start the gui just type startx
[12:20] <Comrade-Sergei> variant what else could be wrong then?
[12:20] <variant> coolgeek: it should work
[12:20] <coolgeek> Shelagh: what do you mean Xsession settings?
[12:21] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: perhaps an update reset the mixer settings for some reason
[12:21] <Shelagh> coolgeek: No you are getting rid of the symlink to gem when you start up.
[12:21] <coolgeek> Shelagh: youve lost me right there!
[12:21] <crusie> hiya, any special things to know about ubuntu and gaming ? I've seen tons of guides for this OS
[12:21] <g0ow> variant: i want to uninstall dapper and then install feisty off of liveCD, can i just delete dapper without preparing the MBR?
[12:21] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: run alsamixergui (you will have to install it first) and make sure non of the output channels are muted or have the volume set low
[12:21] <Comrade-Sergei> like the volume variant? theyre all up
[12:21] <variant> g0ow: yes
[12:21] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: are the channesl muted (volume can still be up)
[12:21] <g0ow> because i dont have a windows XP recovery cd..
[12:22] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: try playing the audio file with mplayer on the command line, it gives some nice verbose output
[12:22] <luisgmarine> what is the name of that bar on MAC desktops, that has icons and such?
[12:22] <Shelagh> coolgeek: startx will start up an xsession (gui session) with whatever is in your .xsession file in your home folder. When I do start x it starts up with fluxbox.
[12:22] <Crooper> 7.04 on a new install loaded the right driver but no sound....HDA Intel
[12:22] <variant> g0ow: you don't need to deleet dapper first.. the live cd will install to that partition after formatting it it's self
[12:22] <Comrade-Sergei> variant lol i use amarok
[12:22] <War1> hi all, i added beryl and emerald as startup programs, i was fooling around with beryl and put rendering on xgl
[12:22] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: good for you but i don't see how that helps you?
[12:22] <crusie> I'm thinking of installing x.org and use the pc for gaming... is this wise?
[12:23] <War1> no i dont see any menu on the top
[12:23] <variant> War1: killall beryl
[12:23] <g0ow> variant:so, i can put Feisty in, and install it and it will install over my dapper partition?
[12:23] <War1> can anyone tell me how to fix it? i can get in x with recovery mode
[12:23] <variant> g0ow: yes, thats exactly what will happen
[12:23] <Comrade-Sergei> variant it doesnt, how do i raise the volumes in this alsa config thing i ggot?
[12:23] <g0ow> okay, thank you
[12:23] <chapm4> nyone help with conexant modem?
[12:23] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: don't know of the top of my head. check the docs
[12:23] <War1> tty variant, i'll try it now, is it ok to do this trough recovery?
[12:23] <jrib> !dialup > chapm4 (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:24] <variant> War1: just press alt f2
[12:24] <variant> War1: and type xterm
[12:24] <jrib> chapm4: linuxant makes drivers for conexant modems
[12:24] <chapm4> !dialup
[12:24] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:24] <War1> i am in x
[12:24] <Comrade-Sergei> variant its a driver problem though
[12:24] <variant> War1: yes i know, do what i asked
[12:24] <War1> i jsut did recovery and then startx
[12:24] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: how do you konw?
[12:24] <variant> War1: huh?
[12:24] <variant> War1: you rebooted?
[12:24] <HymnToLife> chapm4, Linuxant drivers cost money, though
[12:24] <War1> yes...
[12:24] <SurfnKid> feisty fawn is fail
[12:24] <variant> War1: that was not required :P
[12:25] <Comrade-Sergei> variant amarok says cannot initialize drivers
[12:25] <SurfnKid> big time fail
[12:25] <HymnToLife> better buy yourself a good old hardware modem
[12:25] <War1> lol i did that before i entered the chatroom
[12:25] <crusie> wine and unbuntu are good friends ?
[12:25] <Hamm_desktop> is anyone else having slow connections on the main US server?
[12:25] <Meltir> crap. anyone had any success using a canon a420 camera on feisty ? libgphoto is giving me some wierd stuff.
[12:25] <HymnToLife> that will be evzen cheaper than a Linuxant license
[12:25] <kane77> SurfnKid, what makes you think so?
[12:25] <derrin> A more Linux experienced friend gave me a way of converting .avi to .mpg using mencoder.  He did it and it worked.  I try it again today and it doesn't.  Can anyone out there advise me?  Details at:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18875/
[12:25] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: don't take that as being cast in stone
[12:25] <variant> War1: ok, so you are back in ubuntu now and hav ethe same problem?
[12:25] <SurfnKid> kane77, think so? ive installed it, and there are terrible video problems on the liveCD, ive had to go back to Edgy
[12:25] <Meltir> and by wierd stuff i mean *** 'Error (-1: 'Unspecified error') ***'
[12:25] <Comrade-Sergei> variant i got like 30  more seconds to fix this what else could it be
[12:25] <chapm4> jrib: I got the drivers but i connect but then it drops the connection
[12:25] <War1> variant, i choose recovery mode from grub
[12:25] <bruenig> derrin, what kind of mpg? I generally use ffmpeg to convert avi's to dvd compatible mpgs, if that is what you are aiming for
[12:25] <Crooper> i need help with my sound card
[12:26] <hammer> any of u guys use the kde ?
[12:26] <War1> variant, after that i did startx
[12:26] <War1> variant, that's where i am now
[12:26] <War1> the startup programs are not in the sessions menu
[12:26] <War1> beryl and emerald
[12:26] <variant> War1: reboot to normal mode and login as normal, (presumably the windows will be messed up still) then press ctrl alt f1 and you will be put in a virtual terminal, from there you can login and type "killall beryl", then press ctrl alt f7 to get back to the (hopefully now working) gui
[12:26] <jrib> chapm4: turn off cpu scaling, there's a bug where it disconnects if your cpu changes its speed
[12:27] <variant> War1: you could have done that without rebooting..
[12:27] <hammer> ya know that thing that ya get for kde ya can choose plastic and so on?where the heck do i find that?
[12:27] <derrin> bruenig:  Yup! sounds fine!  Do I have to install ffmpeg?  (Sorry I'm a noob - lees than a week on Linux)
[12:27] <bruenig> derrin, yeah you probably do " sudo apt-get install ffmpeg"
[12:27] <War1> ok will try that, and i rebooted BEFORE i entered this room
[12:27] <variant> War1: i know :)
[12:27] <variant> War1: don't worry bout it :)
[12:27] <War1> now i know what to do next time
[12:27] <variant> War1: it might be beryl-manager you ahvet o kill
[12:28] <War1> will try
[12:28] <variant> War1: if it says "no proccess killed" type ps aux and find the name
[12:28] <bruenig> derrin, here is the command, very simple: ffmpeg -i whatever.avi -target ntsc-dvd whatever.mpg             you can also do pal-dvd if that is what you need
[12:28] <hammer> i suppose none of ya use the kde in ubuntu?
[12:28] <spasticteapot> hammer: No. It's a resource hog.
[12:28] <bruenig> hammer, I think the use of "the" before KDE is throwing people
[12:28] <variant> War1: of hte proccess that is beryl.. then type killall thatproccessname (probably beryl)
[12:28] <derrin> bruenig:  cool!  I'm installed.  THANK YOU! Now what do I do?
[12:29] <bruenig> derrin, ffmpeg -i whatever.avi -target ntsc-dvd whatever.mpg
[12:29] <Comrade-Sergei> hammer wouldnt that just be kubuntu?
[12:29] <variant> i have to go to bed War1, gl
[12:29] <variant> cya
[12:29] <bruenig> derrin, I have read that the ubuntu mencoder is bad
[12:29] <bruenig> derrin, just so you don't think you are screwing stuff up
[12:29] <Stormx2> this is insane! "shift" in a bash script is making my kernel error!! Stock feisty kernel...
[12:29] <War1> tty variant
[12:29] <derrin> bruenig:  sorry 'bout that... will try it now.
[12:29] <War1> goodnight
[12:29] <hammer> when i mimumize a window to task bar stupid thing disappears
[12:30] <hammer> pissing me off
[12:30] <crusie> anyone knows if unbuntu works well with wine ?
[12:30] <bruenig> hammer, can you alt + tab to it
[12:30] <Prez_> fyi, running new 2.6.21 kernel, with new timer options, my laptop seems to last longer on battery
[12:30] <bruenig> crusie, wine works well with ubuntu
[12:30] <mc44> crusie: works fine
[12:30] <GaiaX11> coolgeek: To disable gdm do: Administration > Services and turning off GDM
[12:30] <crusie> anything special I should a look out for ? like not choosing 64 bit or something
[12:30] <bruenig> crusie, i386 desktop cd
[12:31] <alpr> hey, how can i use emerald / cgwd themes in feisty?
[12:31] <luisgmarine> Is there any way to fix Ubuntu ugly font rendering?
[12:31] <hammer> ya but i just wanna be able to do it normal when its mumized to click it to pop it up
[12:31] <thelostpatrol> how do i make an executable file out of a script?
[12:31] <bruenig> hammer, is there a button there when it isn't minimized
[12:31] <crusie> bruenig, what gui would you put on top ?
[12:31] <bruenig> thelostpatrol, chmod +x scriptname
[12:31] <bartzitz> my sound stopped working after feisty kernel upgrade, /dev file is missing. any suggestions?
[12:31] <nuu> thelostpatrol: chmod +x filename
[12:31] <hammer> ya mean uptop?
[12:31] <hammer> i got my buttons the - and the +
[12:31] <basselito> yo yo
[12:31] <hammer> aln also the box to max screen
[12:31] <bruenig> crusie, I would say xfce but xubuntu is such crap, probably kde for me but most go with gnome and since that is default, if you are uncertain or new it is probably best to go with that
[12:32] <basselito> is this where the cool kids go?
[12:32] <hammer> if thats not what ya mean then i dont understand
[12:32] <andreas_> I use xubuntu, it absolutely rules.
[12:32] <thelostpatrol> what'
[12:32] <zilly66> bruenig, so wine doesn't work with x64?
[12:32] <thelostpatrol> what's the path for the desktop?
[12:32] <thelostpatrol> in feisty
[12:32] <basselito> Gentoo rocks!
[12:32] <andreas_> /home/username/Desktop
[12:32] <bruenig> zilly66, correct, unless you hack it to work either through chroot or fetching all of the 32 bit libs and symlinks and all that fun stuff
[12:32] <basselito> right?
[12:32] <clever> !ask
[12:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:32] <thelostpatrol> thanks andreas
[12:32] <coolgeek> exit
[12:32] <bruenig> hammer, I mean to ask is there a button in the task list when it isn't minimized?>
[12:33] <hammer> nope
[12:33] <andreas_> thelostpatrol: Remember its case sensitive, so Desktop with capital D.
[12:33] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[12:33] <Dremth> Hey. Is anyone here familiar with getting Xen to work on fiesty??
[12:33] <basselito> hola compadre
[12:33] <assasukasse> i have very big problems with the menu
[12:33] <War1> variant, still here? just wanted to let u know it worked
[12:33] <zilly66> bruenig, i plan on doing a lot of math computation stuff, would i be sacrificing a lot in switching over to 32 so i can use wine, flash, and java(web) ?
[12:33] <bruenig> hammer, ok right click on the panel where you want the task list to show up and click add to panel and then select that applet
[12:34] <assasukasse> if i delete the .local folder and .config/menues folder
[12:34] <crusie> so... staying away from 64 bit... choosing gnome as desktop would be the right way to go to achieve performance ? I'm on a geforce 7950 GT and want to play wow under linux
[12:34] <hammer> thats not what i mean
[12:34] <andreas_> xfce or even lighter for performance
[12:34] <assasukasse> would i end up with a broken system or it will automagically recreate the icons needed?
[12:34] <omha> hey guys
[12:34] <hammer> ok say for example i open up fire fox
[12:34] <MindUs> Free phone calls all around the world ----->  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[12:34] <MindUs> Free phone calls all around the world ----->  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[12:34] <MindUs> Free phone calls all around the world ----->  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[12:34] <hammer> and then i hit the - at the top corniner in fire fox
[12:34] <bruenig> zilly66, depends on how extreme you are going with that math, obviously 64 is much better but only if you are going to need those 64 bit floats
[12:34] <hammer> fire fox disappears
[12:34] <hammer> same with all other things i pop open
[12:35] <thelostpatrol> i typed in chmod +x  /home/my name/Desktop/fontscript.txt and nothing worked
[12:35] <crusie> xfce is still not too bad on the eyes?
[12:35] <thelostpatrol> help?
[12:35] <maki> how much ram and cpu i need for ubuntu 7.04
[12:35] <zilly66> ok thanks bruenig, how do i switch from x64 to x86?
[12:35] <andreas_> crusie: Just install a distro and try to configure your wow first, you will notice if it runs fast enough. Most probably it will, some people report wow runs even faster on linux than on windows. Personally I never got WoW to work on my setup, couldn't see inventory icons.
[12:35] <Dremth> hammer, can you alt+tab to the windows?
[12:35] <thelostpatrol> by "my name" i meant my username
[12:35] <bruenig> hammer, I just told you how to fix it, you for some reason removed the task list applet from the panel, re add it and it will work
[12:35] <carrasco> maki, about 512 RAM
[12:35] <omha> i have a laptop with a hda nvidia mcp51 (ALC882 analog and digital) soundcard
[12:35] <bruenig> zilly66, download the cd, go from there
[12:35] <bartzitz> any alsa experts? please help me to fix my soundcard, after kernel upgrade a file in /dev/snd is missing
[12:35] <omha> all seems to be installed but i have no sound
[12:35] <sebas_> ubuntu crashed, it was very weird. I was running a java applet from linuxsurvival, does anyone want to hear about it?
[12:35] <zilly66> bruenig, i have to reinstall :-(
[12:35] <zilly66> ?
[12:36] <bruenig> zilly66, yeah
[12:36] <Markeda> Anybody here spare me a few minutes to figure out how to get something to install in Kubuntu? I've been ignored in #Kubuntu for three days now :p
[12:36] <crusie> andreas_ well I've had wow up and working before, just not with this graphics card. used suse back then
[12:36] <Dremth> Hey. Is anyone here familiar with getting Xen to work on fiesty??
[12:36] <erUSUL> !anybody | Markeda
[12:36] <ubotu> Markeda: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:36] <magnetron> !ask | Markeda
[12:36] <ubotu> Markeda: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:36] <Markeda> At least I got a response this time :p
[12:37] <thelostpatrol> hhe
[12:37] <andreas_> crusie: Installing a distro takes 30 minutes.. I say try all three, gnome, xfce, and kde.. see which one you like the most.
[12:37] <magnetron> !ask > Markeda
[12:37] <thelostpatrol> hehe*
[12:37] <thelostpatrol> i typed in chmod +x  /home/my name/Desktop/fontscript.txt and nothing worked... help?
[12:37] <crusie> andreas_ well ok
[12:37] <Markeda> I've been through the documentation and done some research on Google, but I can't get anything to install on Kubuntu with Adept, tar.gz files or apt-get. Is there anything special you need to be able to install something?
[12:37] <RobbieCrash> How can I fix this error? http://pastebin.ca/468144 I finally got old nvidia drivers installed and working. but cannot get glx going. I am on edgy, with a geforce 7600 with nvidia 1.0-8776 drivers installed.
[12:37] <andreas_> crusie: xfce is the lightest of them, tho I seemed to have no fps problems with gnome when I tried to run wow.
[12:38] <detlou> after the chmod you have to execute the script ./fontscript.txt
[12:38] <un4get> if im doing "mount" i cant resize the HD using GParted, I have a  "Lock" sign next to the hard drives....
[12:38] <crusie> andreas_, but well it takes a bit longer for me... not all that linux-minded... been using way to much time with bill gates and his lame os's
[12:38] <hammer> i can alt tab them yes
[12:38] <Geoffrey2> ok, now Grub is booting up Ubuntu directly without giving me a menu at all....time to look at the menu file, looks like
[12:38] <thelostpatrol> crusie - stick to dual booting until you get comfy i say
[12:39] <crusie> thelostpatrol, it's what I intend to do :d
[12:39] <un4get> im doing "mount" i cant resize the HD using GParted, I have a  "Lock" sign next to the hard drives....
[12:39] <hammer> i have items on my task bar such as konqueror and the little house and kmenu
[12:39] <hammer> having a hard time undersatnding
[12:39] <andreas_> crusie: I'm just heart broken I can't get WoW to work, neither on wine or crossover lol. If you have enough memory, I think it will run about the same on all three window managers. Its worth trying out before you decide which one you will live with for the next months or year or whatever.
[12:39] <thelostpatrol> crusie - well done
[12:39] <crusie> how much is "enough" ?
[12:39] <maki> the xubuntu live cd will work well on 256 mb of ram ?
[12:39] <thelostpatrol> that is what i'm doing too
[12:40] <derrin> bruenig:  THANKS!  I've got it going!!  Thanks also for the consolation re: mencoder
[12:40] <Music_Shuffle> maki: it'll run
[12:40] <MoL1> maki: should do
[12:40] <andreas_> maki: its your best bet
[12:40] <andreas_> maki: I got 2 gig and I cant figure out how to use up more than 500 meg, haha.
[12:40] <maki> ok i need to install on 15 pc in school
[12:40] <MoL1> maki: great new!
[12:40] <MoL1> new=news
[12:41] <thelostpatrol> i typed in chmod +x  /home/my name/Desktop/fontscript.txt and nothing worked... help?
[12:41] <andreas_> thelostpatrol: its a txt file, what are you trying to achieve :)
[12:41] <thelostpatrol> andreas_, i want an executable
[12:41] <thelostpatrol> it has a script written out in it
[12:41] <theJokercard> Anyone know anything about the akamaru dock?
[12:41] <RobbieCrash> thelostpatrol change it to .sh
[12:41] <RobbieCrash> then chmod it
[12:41] <MoL1> thelostpatrol: try sudo chmod u+x
[12:42] <magnetron> andreas_, crusie: the #1 source for info on Wow on Wine/Linux: http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine
[12:42] <andreas_> thelostpatrol: Use #!/bin/sh
[12:42] <detlou> file extensions have no impact
[12:42] <andreas_> thelostpatrol: as first line in the script
[12:42] <Naitse> helloooo
[12:42] <Music_Shuffle> Hi.
[12:42] <Naitse> any body knows a vnc server for linux?
[12:42] <Naitse> easy install
[12:43] <the_hammer> ssh?
[12:43] <RobbieCrash> How can I fix this error? http://pastebin.ca/468144 I finally got old nvidia drivers installed and working. but cannot get glx going. I am on edgy, with a geforce 7600 with nvidia 1.0-8776 drivers installed.
[12:43] <nomasteryoda> freenx works very well...
[12:43] <shawn34> Naitse, ubuntu has one by default "Remote desktop" and you can install Gnome-RDP for remoting in
[12:43] <dougsko> Naitse: aptitude search vnc
[12:44] <dougsko> run that ^^
[12:44] <thelostpatrol> andreas_, it already has  #!/bin/bash
[12:44] <thelostpatrol> is that the same or should i change it
[12:44] <thelostpatrol> ?
[12:44] <magnetron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18882/
[12:44] <phrontist> can anyone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2581587 ?
[12:44] <Naitse> Shawn34, i install it but is only a viewer
[12:44] <detlou> thelostpatrol - any output when you run the script?
[12:44] <Naitse> ?
[12:44] <MoL1> !nvidia
[12:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:44] <xange> what should I use to format my external harddrive so that I can use it between OS X and Ubuntu? Windows would be plus...though I don't think its necessary. I have MacFuse setup so I think NTFS might be an option unless somebody knows of a reason why not to...
[12:44] <coolgeek> hmmm when i run this command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop it crashes when trying to load loginscripts
[12:45] <Naitse> maybe I am blind
[12:45] <chrae> How do I probe for a video4linux device besides just lspci?
[12:45] <nomasteryoda> Naitse, if you need more or faster product to do vnc type work, then freenx is available for ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:45] <Don_Satan> hi
[12:45] <RobbieCrash> xange there's an ext3 driver for windows and os x
[12:45] <the_hammer> grep somethin
[12:45] <Naitse> freenx...
[12:45] <Don_Satan> toy perdio
[12:45] <xange> RobbieCrash: thanks! so just use gparted?
[12:45] <Naitse> il take a look on it
[12:45] <xange> RobbieCrash: is the ext3 driver read/write?
[12:46] <RobbieCrash> xange that'll do it for you yep.
[12:46] <bartzitz> how to fix sound problem? /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing after kernel update
[12:46] <magnetron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18882/
[12:46] <RobbieCrash> xange I know it is for Windows, I'm sure it will be for OSX too, google it to be sure though
[12:46] <xange> RobbieCrash: sweet, thanks
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <nomasteryoda> Naitse, hang on... i have a url http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis/2007/04/29/freenx-for-feisty/
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <RobbieCrash> xange np
[12:46] <jrib> Don_Satan: stop that
[12:46] <Don_Satan> ok
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:46] <Don_Satan> 
[12:47] <Naitse> the freenx is on a special repo?
[12:47] <nomasteryoda> ya
[12:47] <Don_Satan> 
[12:47] <magnetron> !ops | Don_Satan
[12:47] <ubotu> Don_Satan: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[12:47] <colbert> I am trying to install a Logi webcam, and trying EasyCam2 to install the driver keeps telling me no webcam found, same thing with Camorama. It's like Edgy isn't detecting the cam, but it is plugged in, can anyone help???
[12:47] <coolgeek> hmmm when i run this command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop it crashes when trying to load loginscripts
[12:48] <coolgeek> where are the login scripts?
[12:48] <RobbieCrash> How can I fix this error? http://pastebin.ca/468144 I finally got old nvidia drivers installed and working. but cannot get glx going. I am on edgy, with a geforce 7600 with nvidia 1.0-8776 drivers installed.
[12:48] <nixternal> 
[12:48] <Muisje> you are all a bunch of wannabe debian people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:48] <nixternal> lol
[12:48] <mc44> yes, yes we areeee
[12:48] <detlou> I am not a people
[12:48] <coolgeek> any one?
[12:48] <combatmode> I have a question is there a way i can get newest updates or installation of the new ubuntu version?
[12:49] <coolgeek> login scripts?
[12:49] <nixternal> actually, we wannabe Gentooooooo
[12:49] <coolgeek> where are they?
[12:49] <mc44> nixternal: sick!
[12:49] <nomasteryoda> Ian said as much... but ubuntu is better for most people....
[12:49] <thelostpatrol> detlou, it's supposed to install a font
[12:49] <combatmode> Or command to remove old verision and reinstall to the newest ones?
[12:49] <ubuntuEdgy> ubuntu is used the most
[12:49] <jrib> !upgrade > combatmode (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:50] <magnetron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18882/
[12:50] <thelostpatrol> detlou, it asks if i want to run it
[12:50] <detlou> thelostpatrol: and what do you tell it?
[12:50] <bartzitz> how to fix sound problem? /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing after kernel update
[12:51] <hurt> whats this DCC send stuff?
[12:51] <blaker> ar
[12:52] <blaker> anybody installed vmware workstation successfully in ubuntu?
[12:52] <combatmode> jrib. how about reinstalling ubuntu because i mess up with dapper verision with other verision
[12:52] <jrib> combatmode: just grab the install cd and overwrite your existing installation
[12:53] <derrin> bruenig:  Are there different types of .mpg, then?  Some are not DVD compatible?
[12:53] <javb_> need to know if i can configure the Conexant  cx20468 using Ubuntu ?
[12:53] <javb_> (have googled a lot)
[12:53] <nalioth> hurt: please join #ubuntu-ops
[12:54] <combatmode> what command can i find my verision
[12:54] <jrib> !version > combatmode (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:54] <jrib> !dialup > javb_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:54] <thelostpatrol> Save the script somewhere in your $PATH and make it executable. <---- what does this mean? the $PATH part?
[12:55] <jrib> thelostpatrol: echo $PATH    <-- try this command
[12:55] <phrontist> how do I make grub boot in safe mode?
[12:55] <jrib> phrontist: you want "recovery mode" or is grub safe mode something else?
[12:56] <thelostpatrol> jrib, i did that, it gave me a lot of info i can't make out
[12:56] <detlou>  thelostpatrol: $PATH is an environment variable containing directories your shell will look in for commands/scripts etc
[12:56] <thelostpatrol> okay
[12:56] <jrib> thelostpatrol: well, if you look closely you'll notice that it is a bunch of directories seperated by colons
[12:56] <Neil-> how can i see the resolution im in in ubuntu?
[12:56] <thelostpatrol> colons are dividers?
[12:57] <jrib> thelostpatrol: yep.  If you want to add your own custom stuff, the best place for that is /usr/local/bin
[12:57] <combatmode> upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 6.10 would it also change my settings to default or fix any errors.
[12:57] <thelostpatrol> Neil-, system > prefs > screen resolution
[12:57] <detlou> thelostpatrol: if you use ./scriptname and are in the same directory as the scriptname file you don't have to worry about PATH
[12:57] <jrib> combatmode: it may fix some bugs but it won't change your user settings
[12:58] <thelostpatrol> man i don't understand. :/
[12:58] <phrontist> jrib: I want recovery mode
[12:58] <phrontist> jrib: how do I do that?
[12:58] <jrib> phrontist: when you get to the grub menu, one of the options will be "Recovery Mode", just move your selection down with the arrow keys and press enter
[12:58] <kust0m> thelostpatrol: rather than putting it in your PATH you can spefiy the full path to the script. ex: /usr/home/username/srciptname.sh
[12:59] <kust0m> thelostpatrol: the ./ signifies you want to run it in the directory you're currently working in.
[12:59] <thelostpatrol> okay
[12:59] <phrontist> jrib: Sorry, I meant how do I do recovery mode from the LiveCD?
[12:59] <detlou> thelostpatrol: where did you get the scripts?
[12:59] <thelostpatrol> i'll give you the link.
[12:59] <jrib> thelostpatrol: if instead of giving the full path like kust0m suggests, you just give a name like "my_cool_script", THEN your shell goes searching in your PATH for my_cool_script
[01:00] <thelostpatrol> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275202
[01:00] <thelostpatrol> it's a font installer script
[01:00] <jrib> phrontist: what do you want to do in recovery mode?
[01:00] <thelostpatrol> the script is on that page for you to look at
[01:00] <bimberi> thelostpatrol: you're being asked to copy your script to one of those locations listed by 'echo $PATH'.  The recommended choice is /usr/local/bin.  So that would be 'sudo cp yourfile /usr/local/bin'
[01:00] <jrib> !fonts > thelostpatrol (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:00] <phrontist> jrib: It keeps hanging on boot - want to do a clean install, details are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2581587
[01:01] <jrib> thelostpatrol: there is no need to use a script to install fonts
[01:01] <salsero> hi how can i see my ip adress?
[01:01] <bimberi> salsero: ifconfig
[01:01] <jrib> phrontist: but why do you want recovery mode? (as opposed to just doing the clean install)
[01:01] <thelostpatrol> jrib, that's the only way i was told i could do it
[01:01] <salsero> thx
[01:01] <thelostpatrol> jrib, please recommend something else
[01:01] <combatmode> jrib Is there requirement for xgl . like ati video card?
[01:01] <phrontist> jrib: because I can't do the clean install! It hangs when I select install to hard-drive...
[01:01] <jrib> thelostpatrol: ubotu gave you instructions, feel free to ask if they are not clear
[01:01] <thelostpatrol> jrib, it's a .ttf file
[01:02] <thelostpatrol> ok
[01:02] <jrib> combatmode: check in #ubuntu-effects, there are some requirements
[01:03] <jrib> phrontist: so you don't even get to the grub menu on your install?
[01:04] <phrontist> jrib: I do get the grub menu, it's when I select "install to harddrive" or any other option that I get a blinking cursor and a general hang
[01:04] <jrib> phrontist: I mean when you boot from the hard drive
[01:04] <detlou> thelostpatrol: here's an easier way to install fonts, see http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php#2
[01:05] <phrontist> jrib: if I just let it go, I'll get a quick grub message and then the cursor, if I interrupt it, I select a mode, and then the cursor
[01:05] <jrib> phrontist: even when you choose "recovery mode" then?
[01:05] <rbs-tito> Are there codec or driver issues with 32 bit Ubuntu?
[01:05] <thelostpatrol> jrib, thank you so much. your method worked.
[01:05] <coolgeek> ok.. im getting some where!
[01:05] <rbs-tito> *64 bit
[01:05] <thelostpatrol> brb
[01:05] <coolgeek> i didnt know about the ctrl+alt+F1 button...
[01:05] <coolgeek> but isnt there supposed to be ctrl+alt+f2, f3 - f6???
[01:06] <rbs-tito> coolgeek: with f2 is kill X
[01:06] <coolgeek> rbs-tito: ???
[01:06] <rbs-tito> coolgeek: ctrl + alt +f2 kills the GUI
[01:06] <coolgeek> not in FF it doesnt..
[01:06] <kvidell> since when?
[01:07] <coolgeek> It doesnt..
[01:07] <kvidell> F2 was just the second vterm before
[01:07] <rbs-tito> coolgeek: Lol, sorry. I thought you meant in general.
[01:07] <maki> one guy from #edubuntu says that edubuntu can work on 256 mb
[01:07] <kvidell> CTRL ALT DEL restarts X
[01:07] <maki> i'm confused
[01:07] <coolgeek> lolol
[01:07] <coolgeek> any way...
[01:07] <rbs-tito> kvidell: Backspace, isn't it?
[01:07] <coolgeek> you know the multiple screens you have..
[01:07] <kvidell> same thing on most systems nowadays
[01:07] <xange> when gnome mounts my external harddrive it sets its owner to root and i can't write any files to it...how can i fix this?
[01:07] <coolgeek> f1 - f6
[01:07] <phrontist> jrib: when I choose recovery mode it hangs with no noticable differnece, except the strange characters after a long wait
[01:07] <kvidell> well, same thing on mine
[01:07] <kvidell> donno if that's most :-P
[01:07] <coolgeek> kvidell: you know what i mean right?
[01:08] <kvidell> yea
[01:08] <coolgeek> kvidell: on mine f1 is fine, but f2 is just a blank curser no login same all the way to f6
[01:08] <coolgeek> kvidell: i cant get a prompt
[01:08] <jrib> phrontist: quite strange, haven't seen that before.  You're using a server disk so it's a text-based install right?
[01:08] <tito_> I knew I was right, it bloody does kill x!
[01:09] <kvidell> tried just tapping enter a few times, or ctrlc?
[01:09] <combatmode> rpm and tar which one is much easy to install?
[01:09] <phrontist> jrib: yes, it's text-based
[01:09] <coolgeek> rbs-tito: it does not kill X
[01:09] <rbs-tito> Does anyone know if things like Mp3, video codecs, etc are badly supported in 64 bit Ubuntu?
[01:09] <jrib> combatmode: neither, you want to use the ubuntu repositories or ubuntu .deb
[01:09] <rbs-tito> coolgeek: Try it
[01:10] <coolgeek> rbs-tito: it takes you to whats supposed to be a terminal view!
[01:10] <javb_> jrib, following the instructions u gave me, there is an step where it ask me to do "lspci" but, the command wont show me any info about my modem (revision...) in the other hand it will show me everything else i have. (i have used the modem using another operating system)
[01:10] <coolgeek> but its not working for you just like its not working for me!
[01:10] <rbs-tito> coolgeek: I had to startx
[01:10] <javb_> Any idea?
[01:10] <coolgeek> rbs-tito: but its not working for you!
[01:10] <cafuego> rbs-tito: mp3 works fine, as do all my video files.
[01:10] <coolgeek> rbs-tito: no you dont
[01:10] <coolgeek> rbs-tito: try f7 when in f2
[01:10] <rbs-tito> cafuego: Cheers
[01:10] <cafuego> rbs-tito: WMA might not work, but then, don;'t use WMA.
[01:10] <coolgeek> rbs-tito:  alt+ctl and F7
[01:10] <jrib> javb_: hmm, does that special script to detect the type of modem work?
[01:10] <cafuego> and WMV actually :-)
[01:10] <blaker> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu without reformatting?
[01:11] <coolgeek> blaker: yes
[01:11] <Stormx2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18883/ <-- help! kernel issues...
[01:11] <jrib> !upgrade > blaker (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:11] <kvidell> oh ya, has that gotten any better?
[01:11] <Crooper> i'm having problems with my soundcard... can someone help?
[01:11] <kvidell> I remember having a lot of problems going from the 4 series to the 5 then upgrading between the 5s using apt
[01:11] <coolgeek> kvidell: any ideas?
[01:11] <javb_> jrib, no, that script "ScanModem" wont detect it. I called HP, they told me the chipset, manufacturer and everything. (This is a laptop, HP)
[01:12] <blaker> when i upgrade my distribution, is it exactly the same as if i had downloaded the iso?
[01:12] <kvidell> coolgeek: You try my stupid ideas? (ctrl+c/tappipng enter.. seeing if there's something there running that shant be)
[01:12] <jrib> javb_: hmm I don't know what to suggest
[01:12] <jrib> blaker: well, you keep your settings from before
[01:12] <blaker> oh, thats good
[01:13] <blaker> but i mean it update gnome and everything
[01:13] <javb_> jrib, i understand. Thanks anyway.
[01:13] <blaker> and the kernel
[01:13] <blaker> all that?
[01:13] <bimberi> blaker: and update any extra packages too
[01:13] <thelostpatrol> jrib, is upgrading ubuntu as messy and cluttering as with windows?
[01:13] <barbarella_me> blaker:it depends what you have installed, some upgrades have other options
[01:13] <tito_> blaker: Not exactly the same. In my opinion a clean install is always better. Works quite well though
[01:13] <thelostpatrol> i know with windows it's smarter to just clean install
[01:13] <jrib> thelostpatrol: I never upgraded windows but the ubuntu upgrades work well in general
[01:13] <blaker> dfs
[01:13] <combatmode> jrib How i find out my system's kernel version?
[01:13] <rbs-tito> theIostpatrol: It isn't as messy as windwos, but not as clean as a fresh install
[01:14] <jrib> thelostpatrol: I've upgraded my laptop since hoary
[01:14] <rbs-tito> combatmode: uname -r
[01:14] <bimberi> thelostpatrol: it's usually straightforward.  If you hang in here for too long though you might not think so :)
[01:14] <thelostpatrol> haha
[01:14] <thelostpatrol> no worries, i like this OS a lot
[01:14] <thelostpatrol> and i know every os has its issues, usually those issues are between the chair and the keyboard :D
[01:14] <noname> I need some help with these weird 'moving' icons
[01:15] <thelostpatrol> that includes me, here, now :P
[01:15] <rbs-tito> noname: Stop drinking
[01:15] <bimberi> thelostpatrol: :)
[01:15] <jrib> phrontist: I'm having a tough time figuring out what could cause the install to work the first time and then the same procedure fails afterwards.  Do you have any ideas?
[01:15] <kvidell> lol
[01:15] <noname> My trash can moved when I switched my resolution and now it won't move back into place... and then the icons in the top bar went away (they were just moved before)
[01:15] <phrontist> jrib: no, I'm pulling my hair out
[01:15] <jmspeex> Anyone knows why docking or undocking my machine causes the touchpad to not work properly (e.g. changes speed, tapping no longer works)?
[01:15] <thelostpatrol> hahah rbs, best answer ever in a tech support chat
[01:15] <aoeuhtns-> I'm tring to install xubuntu on an old laptop, but after the initial "detecting hardware to find CD-ROM" it just spins the CD drive up and down
[01:15] <rbs-tito> noname: Yeah, you have to right click and unlock them before moving
[01:15] <jmspeex> I've got a Dell D820 with Feisty
[01:16] <aoeuhtns-> I had this same experience installing VectorLinux, but got around it by choosing the "scsi" kernel
[01:16] <jrib> phrontist: is this the same thing? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2556604
[01:16] <walkintome> hi all. i recently installed nvidia-glx for my geforce 7800gtx. however when i reboot, i got an error with xconfig server (something like that) and i needed to uninstall it. IM currently running nvidia-glx-new and have not had a problem. what happened and have I fixed the problem?
[01:16] <blake__> hehe, hello!
[01:16] <bartzitz> snd_hda_intel sound stopped working after kernel update, modules are loaded but /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing, how to fix it?
[01:17] <blake__> this is a test of irssi! TESTING!
[01:17] <rbs-tito> walkintome: Check if 3D works
[01:17] <thelostpatrol> how do you make windows snap when they reach the corners?
[01:17] <rbs-tito> blake__: Success!
[01:17] <walkintome> rbs-tito: how do i do that
[01:17] <thelostpatrol> aw rbs, lol all that work but no celebration
[01:17] <xange> where do I change the mount options for a drive that is auto mounted through gnome?
[01:17] <kahrytan> aoeuhtns-: For how long?
[01:17] <rbs-tito> walkintome: Run "glxinfo|grep render"
[01:17] <aoeuhtns-> kahrytan, indefinitely
[01:18] <thelostpatrol> how do you make windows snap when they reach the corners?
[01:18] <noname> rbs-tito: No but, my sound/date/log out button shifted over and won't move back
[01:18] <aoeuhtns-> it never gets past that step
[01:18] <kahrytan> aoeuhtns-: How long in minutes.
[01:18] <walkintome> rbs-tito: yup its working. was the nvidia-glx just not the right driver?
[01:18] <rbs-tito> noname: So did mine when changing to widescreen. Right click each icon, uncheck "Lock to panel" then drag them
[01:18] <noname> Ahh right
[01:18] <noname> Ok.. one more question; what is the default network manager?
[01:19] <aoeuhtns-> kahrytan, how long what? it just spins the drive up and down until I get sick of it and reboot... but I've let it go at least 5 mins...
[01:19] <noname> It's the only that shows your signal once you connect to a wireless network
[01:19] <rbs-tito> noname: If unlocking doesn't work, right click and choos emove
[01:19] <noname> I need to know the command to run it since the icons disappeared :(
[01:20] <javb_> does SMBus has something to do with modems?
[01:20] <rbs-tito> noname: Reboot?
[01:20] <phrontist> jrib: that appears to be the same
[01:20] <kahrytan> aoeuhtns-: Did you try Ubuntu or not enough memory?
[01:20] <rbs-tito> noname: If roaming is enabled in the networking manager it should start up
[01:20] <jrib> phrontist: I'd try reinstalling grub
[01:20] <jrib> !grub > phrontist (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:20] <noname> rbs-tito: But what is the name of the default network manager?
[01:20] <noname> I found one but I'd like the one I was using before
[01:20] <rbs-tito> noname: Networkmanager
[01:20] <jrib> phrontist: or, try using lilo even
[01:20] <rbs-tito> noname: networkmanager-gnome is the icon (I think)
[01:20] <phrontist> jrib: how can install grub if I can't boot from a CD?
[01:21] <phrontist> jrib: there is no floppy drive
[01:21] <aoeuhtns-> kahrytan, only 112MB ram
[01:21] <badness10000> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu and trying to compile a custom kernel. I followed the newbie guide but the sources aren't in /usr/src, anyone have a clue as to where they might be?
[01:21] <wkdown> I got three questions I'm hoping someone can help with ... 1) I removed a second HDD (hdb) and Ubuntu is still trying to mount it.  What do I have to change and in what file??
[01:21] <Stormx2> wkdown: /etc/fstab
[01:21] <wkdown> cool
[01:22] <kahrytan> aoeuhtns-:  Ouch. I wonder how it runs Windows
[01:22] <noname> neither work, rbs-tito :(
[01:22] <aoeuhtns-> all the distros I've tried besides vectorlinux just sit there spinning the CD drive
[01:22] <rbs-tito> noname: You will be better off rebooting
[01:22] <bruenig> vectorlinux is ugly, man is it uglty
[01:22] <bruenig> ugly*
[01:22] <noname> It doesn't come back when I reboot
[01:22] <noname> I've already tried
[01:22] <aoeuhtns-> bruenig, I agree, that's why I'm tring to install ubuntu :-)
[01:23] <noname> Are you running feisty?
[01:23] <luumanh> bruenig: what do you mean ugly?
[01:23] <jedi__> which irc-client is the coolest for the console?
[01:23] <jrib> phrontist: try using the super grub disk.  The wiki used to mention it but it seems someone removed it
[01:23] <dyoz> can someone help me out with logrotate - I am running it daily in cron but it is not doing anything??
[01:23] <luumanh> bruenig, the default wm is ugly?
[01:23] <bimberi> jedi__: irssi is excellent
[01:23] <aubade> jedi__: bitchx or irssi.
[01:23] <barbarella_me> aoeuhtns-:a good start would be to pastebin your hardware.
[01:23] <bruenig> luumanh, visually unappealing, for one thing and I know this can be changed, did you see the firefox theme, who in there right mind would ever install that let alone put it as default for a distro
[01:23] <rbs-tito> noname: Right click > add to panel?
[01:24] <noname> Yea I can't find it
[01:24] <jrib> phrontist: this is just what I would try, I admit I have no idea what is really going on
[01:24] <phrontist> jrib: okay, I'll try this super grub disk, thank you very much
[01:24] <jedi__> ah ok - is it in the ubuntu-repos?
[01:24] <luumanh> bruenig, oh :)
[01:24] <jrib> phrontist: good luck
[01:24] <aubade> Anyone up for helping me figure out how to build drivers for my NIC/ ;D
[01:25] <Sivart0> i love ubuntu ^_^
[01:25] <aoeuhtns-> luumanh, also the package repository lags very far behind
[01:25] <karimfayez> every body loves ubuntu...hehehehe
[01:25] <aum> hi - does ubuntu have tools for creating a custom livecd, with custom kernel/apps/utils?
[01:25] <casey_> hi, how do i prevent screen tearing with the ati proprietary drivers?
[01:25] <Sivart0> im able to run windows games i cant run on xp :P
[01:25] <casey_> any xorg.conf setting i should know?
[01:26] <luumanh> aoeuhtns-, thats ugly! :)
[01:26] <bimberi> aum: not ubuntu itself, but there are some 3rd party ones about ...
[01:26] <bimberi> !uck | aum
[01:26] <ubotu> aum: UCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[01:26] <aum> bimberi, many thx :)
[01:26] <bimberi> aum: yw :)
[01:27] <noname> If anyone is running feisty can you check to see what application is running for the default network manager (the one up near your date/time). Or... does anyone know off the top of their head? :)
[01:27] <aoeuhtns-> luumanh, maybe not in the visual sense, but since I don't have enough disk space to build a current version of gcc it's quite annoying
[01:27] <Sivart0> i'm installing internet explorer now :P
[01:27] <Sivart0> i think
[01:27] <dyoz> can someone help me out with logrotate - I am running it daily in cron but it is not doing anything???
[01:27] <aubade> noname: nm-applet
[01:27] <julian> is there a program to code in asp
[01:27] <serenecloud> has anyone ever had nm-applet load multiple times in their panel?
[01:27] <bartzitz> please help me fix my soudcard, last kernel update broke stuff i guess, /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing now
[01:27] <killerbunny> How does this keyring thing work... i have the ssh public and private set up and it works if i give it my password on ssh, but i dont want to do it every time
[01:28] <serenecloud> I had it in my autostart, but now it loads twice by itself, plus the autostart
[01:28] <karimfayez> hey guys i just wanna announce the availability of egypt loco team channel on #ubuntu-egy please join and participate..i know it is still in the beginning but we are welcoming any contibutions
[01:28] <axl69> hi ppl could someone pls tell me the command that restars samba?
[01:28] <aubade> >> Please remember to ASSIGN "NEW_INCLUDE_PATH" in Makefile according to linux kernel.
[01:28] <aubade> Someone explain. lol
[01:28] <julian> well then any good wysiwyg editors
[01:28] <casey_> anybody help with vertical sync?
[01:28] <badness10000> can someone tell me what package I install to get kernel sources?
[01:28] <thelostpatrol> is there another way to crispen the fonts in feisty? the regular preferences aren't enough
[01:28] <serenecloud> zxl: try sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:28] <iJul> hello?
[01:29] <aubade> Trying to build up a driver for the NIC, stuck using onboard for now.
[01:29] <walkintome> does anyone know how to improve font antialiasing on smaller sizes and in firefox?
[01:29] <axl69> sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[01:29] <concord> Having a problem upgrading to Feisty
[01:29] <thebillywayne> !kernel > badness10000
[01:29] <concord> Can anyone help?
[01:29] <concord> It's the "authentication" issue
[01:30] <iJul> Having a problem with an Intel sound card dropped probably from Mars?
[01:30] <badness10000> I've got a conexant modem that conflicts with SMP features in the generic kernel.
[01:30] <iJul> someone can help?
[01:30] <badness10000> So a recompile is in order.
[01:30] <concord> everyone says that running gpg will help
[01:30] <aubade> Actually, nm.
[01:30] <concord> but it doesnt'
[01:30] <concord> help?
[01:31] <thelostpatrol> is there another way to crispen the fonts in feisty? the regular preferences aren't enough
[01:31] <thelostpatrol> they're not as sharp as in my windows xp boot
[01:31] <rbs-tito> iJul: Martians still using PCI?
[01:31] <iJul> can anyone help me find a driver I've spent 24 hours looking for?
[01:31] <iJul> it would appear :p
[01:31] <rbs-tito> iJul: What is the card?
[01:31] <iJul> actually it's a refurb PC. hold a sec for the card
[01:31] <iJul> says Intel (R) 82801
[01:31] <Freestyle> Hello
[01:32] <badness10000> Gosh. I forgot how much apt and I don't get along.
[01:32] <TaSo> how do you get the scroll button to work in Ubuntu?
[01:32] <Freestyle> Whats up everyone?
[01:32] <rbs-tito> TaSo: Scroll lock?
[01:32] <thelostpatrol> is there another way to crispen the fonts in feisty? the regular preferences aren't enough
[01:32] <TaSo> on a mouse
[01:32] <concord> This is useless, no one can help with this level of traffic
[01:32] <Freestyle> I was wondering if someone could give me some help with transfering my music to linux?
[01:32] <rbs-tito> thelostpatrol: is anti aliasing on?
[01:32] <thelostpatrol> don't know
[01:32] <rbs-tito> Freestyle: What format do you keep music in?
[01:32] <Freestyle> mp3 and flac
[01:32] <blaker> how come i cant play xvid in ubuntu?
[01:32] <thelostpatrol> font rendering settings have been tried though
[01:33] <rbs-tito> Freestyle: What do you need help with? Playing MP3s?
[01:33] <thelostpatrol> smoothing and hinting is set
[01:33] <TaSo> how do you get the scroll button on a mouse to work in Ubuntu?
[01:33] <Freestyle> I was wondering if I could transfer my music to my ipod...then connect the ipod once i have ubuntu installed
[01:33] <badness10000> Freestyle, you should be able to mount your FAT or NTFS partition and just copy the stuff over.
[01:33] <rbs-tito> thelostpatrol: Odd, graphics or resolution?
[01:33] <Tarkus> hey, im about to install something with .tar.gz for the first time. is it just as easy to uninstall as if i installed through repos? and is there such thing a restore point i can make incase i screw something up. (i tend to do that alot).
[01:33] <noname> nm-applet is running but it's not up near the date/time
[01:33] <noname> how can I put it back :(
[01:33] <Freestyle> Well. I'm going to reformat...and I dont want to burn 2 dvds full of music
[01:33] <jrib> Tarkus: what are you installing?
[01:33] <Freestyle> can i just transfer my music to the ipod, and then back to linux
[01:33] <noname> aubade: could you right click on the applet and check the properties
[01:33] <Freestyle> ?
[01:33] <badness10000> Freestyle, yes, with Amarok.
[01:33] <rbs-tito> Freestyle: Mount the drive
[01:33] <noname> let me know what the command is
[01:33] <Freestyle> Will it mess up the tags and stuff?
[01:34] <thelostpatrol> rbs-tito, it's just that they look a bit muddy, not as sharp as they can be
[01:34] <rbs-tito> Freestyle: Rhythymbox can get it off your iPod
[01:34] <Freestyle> Because I spent 4 hours one day making all the tags perfect...
[01:34] <Freestyle> :P
[01:34] <aubade> noname: Eh? Wrong person.
[01:34] <blaker> Why can't I play XviD files in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <iJul> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:34] <Freestyle> rbs-tito...get it off in perfect condition?
[01:34] <Freestyle> :p
[01:34] <badness10000> You should make a backup anyway.
[01:34] <Tarkus> jrib: songbird, http://www.songbirdnest.com/
[01:34] <TaSo> how do you get the scroll button on a mouse to work in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <thelostpatrol> rbs-tito, i want them small and crisp but when they get small they get ugly
[01:34] <concord> Can anyone help me?  I'm having trouble upgrading Edgy to Feisty.
[01:34] <sylpheedClaws> !XviD
[01:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <noname> aubade: noname: nm-apple
[01:34] <rbs-tito> Freestyle: As good as they were put on
[01:34] <sylpheedClaws> !XviD | blaker
[01:34] <ubotu> blaker: please see above
[01:34] <blaker> the scroll button works for me lol
[01:34] <Freestyle> okay so no tag issues will come up?
[01:34] <noname> That's a pathetic attempt at a quote
[01:34] <axl69> /etc/init.d/samba: command not found when i tried to restart samba with  sudo: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:34] <blaker> !XviD
[01:34] <Samus_Aran> hi.  I just added the xpenguins thing to the Gnome panel, and now it keeps killing and respawning the panel over and over.  how can I remove the xpenguins from a terminal ?
[01:34] <concord> Can anyone help me?  I'm having trouble upgrading Edgy to Feisty.
[01:35] <rbs-tito> Freestyle: Tag issues? I've never had them.
[01:35] <blaker> !XviD
[01:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:35] <Freestyle> okay thanks
[01:35] <blaker> !XviD doesn't do anything, wtf
[01:35] <concord> Can anyone help me?  I'm having trouble upgrading Edgy to Feisty.
[01:35] <rbs-tito> concord: You need to be more specific ;)
[01:35] <Freestyle> thats all i needed before i was going to install ubuntu
[01:35] <sylpheedClaws> !botabuse | blaker
[01:35] <blaker> Why can't I play XviD files in Ubuntu?
[01:35] <ubotu> blaker: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:35] <thompa> im havingnetwork, have to always reinstall madwifi after a few boots. is there another applet other than networ monitor
[01:35] <iJul> dudes, I've been on it for 24h almost straight: I need help
[01:35] <Freestyle> I used to run ubuntu then needed to go back to windows for photoshop
[01:35] <Freestyle> before cedega
[01:35] <Freestyle> so im going back now :D
[01:35] <blaker> Why can't I play XviD files in Ubuntu?
[01:35] <julian> does anyone create websites here
[01:36] <concord> rbs-tito: It's an issue with the " gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[01:36] <iJul> and a shower... so can anyone point me to a driver for that awful mess of a sound card: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:36] <thelostpatrol> blaker you should be able to, try vlc
[01:36] <badness10000> AC 97 is the bane of my existance.
[01:36] <blaker> hmm lemme try and install vlc
[01:36] <blaker> hang on
[01:36] <concord> rbs-tito: it gives me a gpg error.
 goto Applications -- Add -- Type in Xvid
[01:36] <serenecloud> julian: I do when I have the time, what's your question?
[01:36] <thompa> is there an alternative to networ monitor
[01:36] <axl69> download VLC
[01:36] <poobert__> can someone tell me why apostrophes and certain other characters don't seem to appear in some programs and man pages
[01:36] <xander> hola #ubuntu, if I have a core 2 duo processor, is it safe to install the amd64 version of 7.04, or is 64-bit support still buggy? also, what benifits will I recieve from running a 64-bit OS? Will all my old applications still work?
[01:36] <wkdown> another Q: I recently moved up to Feisty Fawn, my 200GB HD is now almost full, even when I had Windows I never got over 100Gig ... is there a "Linux" reason (like a log file filling up)??
[01:36] <julian> what software do you use
[01:37] <serenecloud> vim
[01:37] <zedfloyd> im ready to instal ubuntu and i need some help
[01:37] <badness10000> xander, I would stick with 32 bit for now, the benefits of 64 bit are pretty intangible.
[01:37] <blaker> why doesn't ubuntu come with VLC pre-installed?
[01:37] <sylpheedClaws> zedfloyd: yes...?
[01:37] <xander> what do you mean by intangible?
[01:37] <aubade> xander: There's no noticeable difference other than some breakage in certain packages, would stick with the x86 arch.
[01:37] <thelostpatrol> blaker, probably legal reasons
[01:37] <iJul> how comes it's so messy in here :s
[01:37] <axl69> Its there to download
[01:37] <rbs-tito> blaker: Copyright issues
[01:37] <julian> serecloud: what software do you use
[01:37] <sylpheedClaws> !install | zedfloyd
[01:38] <ubotu> zedfloyd: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:38] <axl69> ok ppl so how do i restart samba???
[01:38] <zedfloyd> im in the partitioner
[01:38] <xander> alright, 32-bit it is, thanks!
[01:38] <sylpheedClaws> and?
[01:38] <blaker> i use 64-bit and it's better
[01:38] <zedfloyd> and i dont know what to choose
[01:38] <blaker> alot faster
[01:38] <zedfloyd> im doing a dual boot
[01:38] <xander> [ blaker ]  what processor?
[01:38] <jrib> Tarkus: there's nothing to compile, just extract the tar.gz and run SongBird
[01:38] <zedfloyd> win xp already installed
[01:38] <phillywhitetrash> will a linksys pci wifi card work with ubuntu?
[01:38] <aoeuhtns-> so here is the hardware listing for the machine I'm trying to install on: http://rafb.net/p/Cd6frR39.html
[01:38] <blaker> amd x2 4200+
[01:38] <aubade> blaker: Just tried an install with my E6320 and I didn't notice much of a difference. :|
[01:38] <sylpheedClaws> format XP
[01:38] <zedfloyd> im running ubuntu off of the cd now
[01:38] <xander> alright, thanks for the input guys
[01:38] <sylpheedClaws> you know you'll lose it, right?
[01:39] <sylpheedClaws> if you want to keep XP, make a new partition and resize XP
[01:39] <jrib> Tarkus: so it's very unlikely you will be able to mess that up :)
[01:39] <zedfloyd> can i do all of that right in unbuntu?
[01:39] <sylpheedClaws> yep
[01:39] <sylpheedClaws> through the installer's partitioner
[01:39] <wkdown> I'm also getting a rather funny error msg when I boot ... it says that 'apt' isnt installed and that I should (lol) run 'apt-get install apt'
[01:39] <wkdown> anyone else got this?
[01:40] <concord> Cannot upgrade Edgy to Feisty.  I'm using  "gksu update-manager -c -d" and the upgrade launches and begins but then fails the gpg check.  I've tried most of what's out there (running gpg and then quiting it and resuming the update) - nothing works.
[01:40] <sylpheedClaws> wkdown: lol... you're screwed
[01:40] <wkdown> hahaha
[01:40] <wkdown> really tho
[01:40] <rbs-tito> concord: Go for a clean install, the download is just as big
[01:40] <sylpheedClaws> never had it, but ad some major DPKG issues before...
[01:40] <sylpheedClaws> maybe you should try wget and dpkg -i
[01:40] <sylpheedClaws> from the Ubuntu package mirrors
[01:40] <noname> Alright so i'l still looking for the name of what used to be in my menu bar
[01:40] <concord> rbs-tito: you mean save my /home directory and just install over?
[01:41] <wkdown> sylpheedclaws, apt runs fine tho
[01:41] <wkdown> thats what I dont get
[01:41] <sylpheedClaws> ah... never mind
[01:41] <jrib> I have no sound with dvd playback in totem-gstreamer.  Video works fine.  mplayer and xine play sound fine.  What do I need to do to get totem-gstreamer to play the sound on a dvd?
[01:41] <zedfloyd> i have ntfs of 230686MB for xp   /dev/sda1, then there is /dev/sda5 with 19362mb (unformated)
[01:41] <noname> nm-applet is running but it's not in my menu bar
[01:41] <Comrade-Sergei> wkdown lol yeah
[01:41] <rbs-tito> concord: Pretty much
[01:41] <sylpheedClaws> okay, then use sda5
[01:41] <zedfloyd> then i have free space of 8mb
[01:41] <thebillywayne> concord, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[01:41] <sylpheedClaws> and format it as ext3
[01:41] <wkdown> I'd rather not have to hit Ctrl-D every boot
[01:41] <Crooper> iJul, i have the same problem as you.... Intel soundcard
[01:41] <iJul> rbs-tito: I don't mean to bother, but do you think you can help me or can you say who might be able to give a helping hand?
[01:42] <zedfloyd> ext3.. got it
[01:42] <nick_> any idea on how to make the desktop effects stop removing the window decorations
[01:42] <wkdown> is this a new bug I should report?
[01:42] <rbs-tito> iJul: I take it you've been Googling?
[01:42] <sylpheedClaws> ext3 is the main inux filesystem, and the most stable
[01:42] <iJul> nick_ download emerald from Apt
[01:42] <sylpheedClaws> *Linux
[01:42] <ziggy23> Does Ubuntu have an SSH client I can use out-of-the-box?  If so, is it safe (i.e., not buggy)?
[01:42] <iJul> of course
[01:42] <zedfloyd> do i have to edit to get to that?\
[01:42] <iJul> lots of result, nada
[01:42] <bruenig> !ssh | ziggy23
[01:42] <ubotu> ziggy23: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:42] <catid> anyone know how to perform an XOR operation on two variable in a shell script?  looking for something like bc for arithmetic
[01:42] <sylpheedClaws> zed: nope
[01:42] <sylpheedClaws> oh wait, yes
[01:43] <zedfloyd> do i leave mount point blank?
[01:43] <sylpheedClaws> I thought you meant files
[01:43] <sylpheedClaws> set it a "/"
[01:43] <sylpheedClaws> just a slash, no more
[01:43] <zedfloyd> what does that do?
[01:43] <sylpheedClaws> it mounts it as the main Ubuntu partition
[01:43] <sylpheedClaws> you need a / partition
[01:43] <nick_> ijJul: emerald is for beryl
[01:43] <sylpheedClaws> it's the root of the filesystem, sort of like C:\ in Windows
[01:43] <iJul> oh...metacity then
[01:44] <rbs-tito> iJul: The HCL says it works in Breezy. Do you have the intel8x0 package installed?
[01:44] <zedfloyd> forward slash
[01:44] <iJul> I run Feisty
[01:44] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[01:44] <zedfloyd> got it
[01:44] <iJul> with Beryl
[01:44] <sylpheedClaws> just a slash
[01:44] <rbs-tito> iJul: Do you have that package though?
[01:44] <iJul> intel8x0?
[01:44] <SpeakerMania> I lost my password and can't log in to Ubuntu. What do I do? Am I screwed?
[01:44] <nick_> iJul: i have metacity
[01:44] <bartzitz> i have a problem with intel sound card, after kernel update it stopped working, missing /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p file, any ideas?
[01:44] <rbs-tito> iJul: Yup
[01:44] <iJul> I think I saw it yesterday
[01:44] <iJul> let me check
[01:44] <jrib> catid: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ops.html says ^
[01:44] <noname> rbs-tito: haha alright sorry... back to you then. I found the .desktop file that loads the applet but it's not showing up in my menu bar. Is there some way I can make that happen again?
[01:45] <zedfloyd> it says somthing about a swap?
[01:45] <deb1> how often does google get through updating its search index
[01:45] <aoeuhtns-> SpeakerMania, use a live CD and change the root password
[01:45] <iJul> Tito: couldn't find the package in apt
[01:45] <SpeakerMania> And I do that how...
[01:45] <sylpheedClaws> ah... maybe you should format the 8MB as swap to shut it up...
[01:45] <nick_> any idea on how to make the desktop effects stop removing the window decorations
[01:45] <iJul> no I saw it on windows (dual boot), it does work on windows
[01:45] <catid> jrib: thanks i'll try it
[01:45] <sylpheedClaws> swap is sort of like Windows's paging file
[01:45] <nick_> the ones built into feisty
[01:45] <iJul> you know where I can find it for Debian?
[01:45] <sylpheedClaws> it's virtual memory
[01:45] <zedfloyd> it says i need 256?
[01:45] <aoeuhtns-> SpeakerMania, or I think if you boot into runlevel 1 it will give you a root shell
[01:45] <zedfloyd> does that not matter
[01:45] <sylpheedClaws> that's just a recommendation
[01:46] <zedfloyd> will 8MB do the trick?
[01:46] <sylpheedClaws> I've installed it with no swap, and it works fine
[01:46] <sylpheedClaws> it's just for if you don't have much RAM
[01:46] <SpeakerMania> I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux... Could you explainsome more?
[01:46] <jonwallace> Is there native support for Intel Pro Wireless ABGM
[01:46] <zedfloyd> i have 2mb ram
[01:46] <yhlfh> sylpheedClaws: but can you suspend without swap?
[01:46] <rbs-tito> iJul: Bad sound or no sound?
[01:46] <thebillywayne> I worked for a while without using SWAP, without realizing it.
[01:46] <jonwallace> ABGN*
[01:46] <sylpheedClaws> SpeakerMania: press CtrlAltF1
[01:46] <iJul> no sound
[01:46] <CrashTest_> how would I change all of the files in a directory from *.html to *.php?
[01:46] <iJul> at all...not even on login
[01:46] <SpeakerMania> On the log in screen or when GRUB is loading?
[01:47] <sylpheedClaws> o... kay... 2MB RAM...
[01:47] <sylpheedClaws> sure you don't mean 2GB RAM?
[01:47] <rbs-tito> iJul:  I think I've got a solution
[01:47] <bruenig> CrashTest_, rename 's/\.html/\.php/' /path/to/directory/*
[01:47] <deb1> zedfloyd, well if you got a big hd just incase you need it i usually make swap 1G
[01:47] <zedfloyd> sorry yes you are right
[01:47] <iJul> do you?
[01:47] <sylpheedClaws> then you're set
[01:47] <catid> jrib: yes. let "RESULT=(2000*$RANDCHAR)^$RANDCHAR2"
[01:47] <aoeuhtns-> SpeakerMania, when GRUB is loading, there's a key you can push to modify the boot command (e maybe?)
[01:47] <CrashTest_> thanks bruenig, I really need to learn perl regexp
[01:47] <catid> jrib: that works fine in bash at least
[01:47] <SpeakerMania> I'm confused...
[01:47] <aoeuhtns-> tack on a 1 and then boot
[01:47] <deb1> zedfloyd, that way you never run out of mem
[01:47] <SpeakerMania> Would the Live CD be easier
[01:47] <sylpheedClaws> you don't *need* swap, at least
[01:47] <rbs-tito> iJul: Edit the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file as root
[01:47] <SpeakerMania> ?
[01:48] <bruenig> CrashTest_, I guess, I have never really figured out what the difference is, is that perlxp?
[01:48] <zedfloyd> is it easy to take from the c:\
[01:48] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[01:48] <MoL1> SpeakerMania: when you power on the computer, and get the grub menu, you will have two entries - one for 'rescue mode' the other for normal boot - select rescue mode
[01:48] <sylpheedClaws> Feisty has NTFS support
[01:48] <iJul> got it
[01:48] <zedfloyd> or the 19gb i have for /
[01:48] <rbs-tito> iJul: Add this to the last line "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3"
[01:48] <CrashTest_> bruenig, Don't know, lol
[01:48] <SpeakerMania> And after that...
[01:48] <sylpheedClaws> you can read files from your WIndows drive, no problem
[01:48] <zedfloyd> ok
[01:48] <sylpheedClaws> if you're not using Feisty, you can still read, but writing will be an issue
[01:48] <zedfloyd> im using feisty
[01:49] <St3D1> anyone good with graphic driver issues ?
[01:49] <aoeuhtns-> forgot about rescue mode ... I don't actually have ubuntu installed :-P
[01:49] <sylpheedClaws> alright, no problem then
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> i have the same issue as zed
[01:49] <MoL1> aoeuhtns-: wtf?
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> i can't read my other drives either, how do i do that
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> err
[01:49] <iJul> line added
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> write, not read
[01:49] <SpeakerMania> So I should...
[01:49] <iJul> then exit?
[01:49] <aoeuhtns-> SpeakerMania, after rescue mode boots, use passwd to set the root password
[01:49] <rbs-tito> iJul: Try rebooting
[01:49] <sylpheedClaws> thelostpatrol: what version of Ubuntu?
[01:49] <phire> I've got a problem with apt-get: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/inkscape/inkscape_0.45-0ubuntu4_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[01:49] <phire> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> feisty
[01:49] <MSTK> cd /the_universe && sudo rm *
[01:49] <fredrich> how do i chown hidden dirs?
[01:49] <sylpheedClaws> no idea
[01:50] <SpeakerMania> What is the root username? The username I set up when I installed?
[01:50] <iJul> I'll have trouble rebooting yet renaining on irc :p
[01:50] <bruenig> fredrich, same way you chown any other directory
[01:50] <bartzitz> rbs-tito: could you help me with my soundcard? is stopped working after update to 2.6.20-15, /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing
[01:50] <aubade> SpeakerMania: root is root.
[01:50] <aoeuhtns-> MoL1, I'm currently running Fedora, which doesn't install a "rescue mode" in the grub list
[01:50] <thelostpatrol> ijul, rejoin when you come back
[01:50] <MoL1> SpeakerMania: yes it is. passwd <usename> <password>
[01:50] <fredrich> everytime i try to chown a file structure it skips on any .dirs
[01:50] <iJul> ok
[01:50] <iJul> thk you very much
[01:50] <rbs-tito> iJul: Wait
[01:50] <iJul> still here
[01:50] <St3D1> ive just installed  ubuntu onto my system and now when i scroll about on a web page or so, its really jumpy.. anyone able to advise ?
[01:50] <SpeakerMania> I type my username and password into carets?
[01:50] <bruenig> fredrich, shouldn't
[01:50] <SpeakerMania> Or without?
[01:50] <rbs-tito> iJul: Just check you have the intel8x0 module
[01:50] <CrashTest_> bruenig, huh, didn't do anything.
[01:51] <iJul> how do I do that?
[01:51] <MoL1> SpeakerMania: without
[01:51] <bruenig> CrashTest_, make sure you put the *
[01:51] <SpeakerMania> Gotcha, I shall be back.
[01:51] <sylpheedClaws> zedfloyd: still there? is everything going OK?
[01:51] <iJul> I know aptitude, but to check modules...if it aint on apt-cache
[01:51] <aoeuhtns-> SpeakerMania, the root username is "root", but if you want to change the password for your username do passwd <username>
[01:51] <CrashTest_> bruenig, rename 's/\.html/\.php/' /home/pteglia/tmp/fin/*
[01:51] <rbs-tito> bartzitz: What card is it? Have you tried reinstalling the package?
[01:51] <bartzitz> iJul: lsmod | gpep snd
[01:51] <bruenig> CrashTest_, yeah that should work
[01:51] <zedfloyd> how do i tell it to make the 8mb the swap
[01:51] <SpeakerMania> Okay, thanks.
[01:51] <sylpheedClaws> the next screen
[01:51] <CrashTest_> bruenig, nope, didn't do a thing
[01:51] <Crooper> rbs-tito, that would work for the HDA Intel also?
[01:51] <sylpheedClaws> it has some checkboxes and stuff
[01:51] <bruenig> CrashTest_, ok cd into the directory and do this
[01:51] <MoL1> aoeuhtns-: ubuntu uses sudo - there is no root password by default
[01:51] <rbs-tito> iJul: lsmod
[01:51] <bartzitz> rbs-tito: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Azalia, snd_hda_intel driver
[01:51] <sylpheedClaws> wait... swap is used automatically
[01:51] <fredrich> bruenig, strange.....You see i've made a backup of my home dir before installing feisty, and now i want to restore it.....and when i copy the files over and try to chown em to my user it skips all dirs starting with a dot
[01:51] <zedfloyd> oh i see
[01:52] <iJul> snd_opl3_lib           11520  0
[01:52] <iJul> snd_hwdep               9988  1 snd_opl3_lib
[01:52] <iJul> snd_sb16_dsp           11776  0
[01:52] <iJul> snd_sb_common          17792  1 snd_sb16_dsp
[01:52] <iJul> snd_mpu401_uart         9472  0
[01:52] <iJul> snd_intel8x0           34204  1
[01:52] <iJul> snd_ac97_codec         98336  1 snd_intel8x0
[01:52] <iJul> ac97_bus                3200  1 snd_ac97_codec
[01:52] <sylpheedClaws> never mind, it'll find it itself
[01:52] <MoL1> !sudo
[01:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:52] <iJul> snd_pcm_oss            44544  0
[01:52] <iJul> snd_mixer_oss          17408  2 snd_pcm_oss
[01:52] <iJul> snd_pcm                79876  4 snd_sb16_dsp,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[01:52] <iJul> snd_seq_dummy           4740  0
[01:52] <iJul> snd_seq_oss            32896  0
[01:52] <iJul> snd_seq_midi            9600  0
[01:52] <iJul> snd_rawmidi            25472  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
[01:52] <iJul> snd_seq_midi_event      8448  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
[01:52] <iJul> snd_seq                52592  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
[01:52] <bruenig> CrashTest_, for x in *; do mv $x $(echo $x | sed 's|.html|.php|');done
[01:52] <iJul> snd_timer              23684  3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_pcm,snd_seq
[01:52] <CrashTest_> bruenig, does it matter if the /fin dir is within the dir that I have the files
[01:52] <iJul> snd_seq_device          9100  6 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
[01:52] <iJul> snd                    54020  15 snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_sb16_dsp,snd_sb_common,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
[01:52] <aubade> Any idea if RTL-8139 support was broken between Edgy and Feisty?
[01:52] <aoeuhtns-> MoL1, that's right, I forgot that too - maybe I'll shut up now
[01:52] <bartzitz> rbs-tito: i've reinstalled all alsa-related packages
[01:52] <Sleepy_Coder> lol
[01:52] <bruenig> CrashTest_, it doesn't do it recursively if that is what you are asking
[01:52] <kvidell> copypasta for the lose
[01:52] <rbs-tito> iJul: It's there!
[01:52] <sylpheedClaws> iJul was kicked
[01:53] <thelostpatrol> haha
[01:53] <Sleepy_Coder> iJul just doesn't know better. :)
[01:53] <thelostpatrol> that's irony if i've ever seen it
[01:53] <MoL1> aoeuhtns-: no offense intended - I'd love to know why Fedora is good?
[01:53] <Smolar> Anyone care to help someone...  ON THE EDGE?\
[01:53] <aum> was it an auto-kick-on-flood?
[01:53] <Sleepy_Coder> That's how we all were, before pastebin. :p
[01:53] <rbs-tito> bartzitz & Crooper: I'm unsure, I'll check
[01:53] <sylpheedClaws> Smolar: issue?
[01:53] <Sleepy_Coder> aum: Doesn't appear so.
[01:53] <concord> rbs-tito: it looks like my /home directory is not on a separate partition.  Got any ideas?
[01:53] <CrashTest_> bruenig, not exactly what I meant, but the sed script worked great!
[01:53] <ward_> hi all, i just installed nvclock, but i wanted a GUI, so i installed nvclock-gtk, but now i can't figure out how to launch it, nvclock is just nvclock in terminal
[01:53] <bartzitz> rbs-tito: i have /dev/snd/pcmC0D6p file, but no /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p, tried symlinking, no result
[01:53] <zedfloyd> its asking about migrating documents and settings...
[01:53] <Smolar> I broke my graphics, probably by disabling my restricted Nvidia drivers without disabling desktop effects.
[01:53] <MoL1> aoeuhtns-: I had very bad experiences with rpm-hell with previous rpm-based distros
[01:53] <sparr> i hate being forced back to windows for hardware support  :(
[01:53] <zedfloyd> it brings up xp in the window
[01:53] <Smolar> I get a white screen now.  How can I disable desktop effects via the console?
[01:53] <sylpheedClaws> ward_: use nvclock-gtk from the command
[01:53] <bruenig> CrashTest_, yeah I though rename was meant to sort of emulate that so as to make you setup the apparently confusing to some for loop
[01:54] <sylpheedClaws> zedfloyd: which window?
[01:54] <aoeuhtns-> MoL1, only because it's the one I'm most familiar with - agreed, rpm is the worst
[01:54] <MoL1> sparr: agreed
[01:54] <wkdown> why would my /var/log directory be 147 GIG ?????
[01:54] <bruenig> make you not setup*
[01:54] <zedfloyd> migrate documents and settings
[01:54] <St3D1> ive just installed  ubuntu onto my system and now when i scroll about on a web page or so, its really jumpy.. anyone able to advise ?
[01:54] <ward_> sylpheedclaws: does not work
[01:54] <crdlb> Smolar: get to a tty with ctrl+alt+f1 and type: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace
[01:54] <aoeuhtns-> I'm currently in the market for another distro
[01:54] <sylpheedClaws> wkdown: holy *&^*...
[01:54] <rbs-tito> concord: Erm, back it up to anything.
[01:54] <bruenig> apparently not
[01:54] <ward_> sylpheedclaws: command not found
[01:54] <wkdown> yeah
[01:54] <crdlb> Smolar: then Alt+f7 to go back
[01:54] <aubade> No one? :\
[01:54] <sparr> MoL1: got my hands on some sweet quad head video cards...  no luck in linux  :(
[01:54] <Smolar> Thanks.  I will try that now
[01:54] <sylpheedClaws> Smolar: it's Ctrl+Alt+F7, not just Alt_F7
[01:54] <ward_> lol 147GB
[01:55] <wkdown> sylpheedclaws, how do I fix that?
[01:55] <crdlb> sylpheedClaws: no
[01:55] <Smolar> Yeah, I learned how to navigate terminals in computer class :)
[01:55] <noname> aubade: So do you have the nm-applet running on feisty? (unrelated)
[01:55] <crdlb> from the tty you don't need the ctrl
[01:55] <Smolar> I will try this right now, thank you.
[01:55] <wkdown> can I just wipe the directory?
[01:55] <rbs-tito> bartzitz: Reinstall the intel sound packages, it might configure itself (Or did you compile the driver)
[01:55] <ward_> sylpheedclaws: nvclock-gtk does not work; command not found
[01:55] <sparr> wkdown: your logrotate daemon isnt working, AND you have something logging a crapload of data
[01:55] <aubade> noname: Yeah, atm.
[01:55] <crdlb> sylpheedClaws: you need ctrl to get out of X but not to get back in
[01:55] <salsero> hi
[01:55] <concord> rbt-tito: I can tar it up to my other box.  I'm really just upgrading in the hope that my option 3g Cingular card will work better.
[01:55] <sparr> wkdown: cd /var/log
[01:55] <salsero> i have problems with: /usr/src/truecrypt-4.3-source-code/Linux$ sudo ./build.sh
[01:55] <noname> aubade: Could you right click your icon next to the date/time and tell me the command?
[01:55] <sparr> wkdown: du -sc * | sort -n
[01:55] <aubade> Should just bite my tongue and hope Debian picks up this card.
[01:55] <noname> err.. go to properties and check the command*
[01:55] <concord> rbt-tito: it's 7.6 gig of shit.
[01:55] <wkdown> ok, whats DU
[01:55] <sylpheedClaws> crdlb: hmm... never knew, always used Ctrl+Alt+F7
[01:56] <sparr> wkdown: disk usage
[01:56] <salsero> i get /usr/src/truecrypt-4.3-source-code/Linux$ sudo ./build.sh
[01:56] <dyoz> logrotate is configured the same on my local machine as is on my VPS, yet it isn't doing anything on my VPS - can someone help me out please??
[01:56] <rbs-tito> concord: Yeah, tar it if you want. Or set up a temporary dual boo
[01:56] <salsero> i get Checking build requirements...
[01:56] <salsero> Linux kernel (2.6.20-15-generic) source directory [/usr/src/linux] :
[01:56] <wkdown> ok ran
[01:56] <luisgmarine> what is the best thing to use to imitate the mac osx dock?
[01:56] <wkdown> what u need to know
[01:56] <aubade> nanoame: gnome-netstatus-applet (?)
[01:56] <Morrissey> Hi, I was wondering ... does anyone know I can map "Button 8", which is on my mouse, to the "F12" key on my keyboard?
[01:56] <sylpheedClaws> zedfloyd: which window? the boot loader?
[01:56] <bartzitz> rbs-tito: no i didn't compiled anything, it was working with fresh install from beta cd, but when i updated the kernel from 2.6.20-12 to 2.6.20-15 is broke. how do i reinstall driver package? it's in alsa package, no?
[01:56] <salsero> Checking build requirements...
[01:56] <salsero> Linux kernel (2.6.20-15-generic) source directory [/usr/src/linux] :
[01:56] <salsero> salsero@salsero:/usr/src/truecrypt-4.3-source-code/Linux$ y
[01:56] <salsero> bash: y: command not found
[01:56] <sparr> wkdown: the stuff at the bottom is the biggest, whats there?
[01:57] <salsero> what is wrong
[01:57] <wkdown> 153835128       cups
[01:57] <wkdown> then total
[01:57] <concord> rbt-tito: yeah, that sounds like a plan.  I just wish I could "upgrade" instead.  I'm afraid to change my sources.list and do it with apt-get.  Hear of that working for anyone?
[01:57] <ward_> hi all, i just installed nvclock, but i wanted a GUI, so i installed nvclock-gtk, but now i can't figure out how to launch it, nvclock is just nvclock in terminal
[01:57] <rbs-tito> bartzitz: So this is an install on top of a beta?
[01:57] <wkdown> everything else is under 1500
[01:57] <sparr> wkdown: ok, your printer daemon is logging a shitload of data
[01:57] <aubade> Just run nm-applet from a run dialog or something.
[01:57] <bartzitz> rbs-tito: yep, 7.04 beta
[01:57] <rbs-tito> ward_: Run nvclock-gtk
[01:57] <noname> nm-applet doesn't launch the icon, though
[01:57] <wkdown> sparr, ok, how do I clear it
[01:57] <salsero> who can help me
[01:57] <noname> nm-applet IS running but I would like that status in my menu bar
[01:57] <iJul> tito: problem solved
[01:57] <ward_> rbs-tito: i tried, command not found :s
[01:57] <rbs-tito> bartzitz: That is probably the problem. Weird upgrades from some betas
[01:58] <iJul> thank you very much
[01:58] <sparr> wkdown: easy way?  rm -rf /var/log/cups/* && /etc/init.d/cups restart
[01:58] <DBO> Morrissey, watch the swearing
[01:58] <wkdown> ok
[01:58] <sparr> wkdown: i seriously doubt you need any of that logged data
[01:58] <wkdown> lemme try
[01:58] <bartzitz> rbs-tito: ok will try release cd
[01:58] <wkdown> I doubt it too
[01:58] <noname> aubade: Are you sure that's the command? Doesn't appear to be working. if it's not too much trouble could you take a screen shot of the properties?
[01:58] <phire> my ubuntu mirror seams to be missing inkscape for feisty, is it just mine?
[01:58] <Morrissey> yeah, sorry about that ... old habbit
[01:58] <rbs-tito> iJul: :)
[01:58] <b33r> How can I SSH to my shell account on ubuntu?
[01:58] <LjL> !offtopic
[01:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:59] <iJul> good bye :)
[01:59] <DjViper> phire: checked if you ahve all repositories active?
[01:59] <DjViper> have*
[01:59] <LjL> b33r: "ssh hostname"
[01:59] <wkdown> sparr, "/etc/init.d/cups No such directory"
[01:59] <phire> yes, its a 404 error, DjViper
[01:59] <b33r> LjL, can u b more specific please?
[01:59] <Crooper> rbs-tito,  so i could just edit my file but use snd_hda_intel instead?
[01:59] <DjViper> b33r: open console, type: ssh -l loginname hostname
[01:59] <ward_> rbs-tito: i tried to just run nvclock-gtk; command not found :s
[01:59] <Morrissey> sylpheedClaws, probably ... its fast, and it "orks" out of the box ... but for people like myself, who likes to make my linux _very_ personal, it was really hard ... IE: Upgrading to CVS on beryl was a chapter itself
[01:59] <BetaCookies> Hey
[01:59] <Morrissey> works*
[01:59] <aubade> noname: I just killed the process nm-applet and started it again and it re-appeared in the notification tray, pretty sure.
[01:59] <LjL> b33r, open a console and type  ssh hostname , where hostname is the hostname of your shell account provider.
[01:59] <rbs-tito> Crooper: Worth trying, if that is the name of the module
[01:59] <DjViper> phire: hmm ok, sorry I cant help you with that
[02:00] <Morrissey> Hi, I was wondering ... does anyone know I can map "Button 8", which is on my mouse, to the "F12" key on my keyboard?
[02:00] <BetaCookies> I've got an Intel 2200BG wireless card, and it works for the most part, but its recognized as ethernet, which isn't correct.
[02:00] <sylpheedClaws> Morrissey: Was that a "w" or "b" in front of "orks"?
[02:00] <phire> DjViper, does it work for you?
[02:00] <Morrissey> sylpheedClaws, w :P
[02:00] <sylpheedClaws> lol
[02:00] <Morrissey> haha
[02:00] <sylpheedClaws> borks out of the box... that'd be WIndoze
[02:00] <Morrissey> hehehe
[02:00] <DjViper> phire: I dont have FF on this pc
[02:00] <phire> k
[02:00] <LjL> !info xmodmap | Morrissey
[02:00] <b33r> LjL, I want it in GUI
[02:00] <Crooper> ok...i'll try rbs-tito
[02:00] <ubotu> morrissey: xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[02:01] <noname> aubade: It's in my startup and running at startup but it still doesn't get put onto the top panel. It got removed so I'm trying to re-add it
[02:01] <rbs-tito> ward_: Go to #nvclock and ask there
[02:01] <Morrissey> sylpheedClaws, my point is .. Im glad I got back to ubuntu eventually :)
[02:01] <DjViper> b33r: hmm, telnet/ssh in gui?
[02:01] <sylpheedClaws> :)
[02:01] <DjViper> b33r: do you mean remotedesktop?
[02:01] <jedi__> how can i use two-finger-scrolling on macbook/feisty ???
[02:01] <LjL> b33r: err...?
[02:01] <aubade> Guess it's Feisty's fault.
[02:01] <Morrissey> LjL, afaik Xmodmap only maps keycodes? not buttons?
[02:01] <sylpheedClaws> I just hate ubuntu because it's slow, if someone recompiled it for i686, I'd probably be all over it, instead of being stuck on my IceWM desktop...
[02:01] <ward_> rbs-tito, ok thanx
[02:01] <kvidell> b33r: I think you're looking for either gnome-terminal or xterm
[02:01] <b33r> DjViper, I tried remotedesktop it just says opening
[02:02] <Morrissey> sylpheedClaws, IceWM is fast thogh :P
[02:02] <DjViper> b33r: did you install a remotedesktop server on your shell?
[02:02] <sylpheedClaws> thinking about switching to Wolvix or Mandriva
[02:02] <b33r> from places --> connect to server
[02:02] <LjL> Morrissey, "apt-cache show xmodmap" says "xmodmap is a tool to modify the input maps of X servers (both keyboards and mice), to modify key and mouse button events."
[02:02] <DjViper> b33r: like... vnc?
[02:02] <Morrissey> sylpheedClaws, PCLinuxOS is based on mandriva, and that was fast indeed
[02:02] <St3D1> ive just installed  ubuntu onto my system and now when i scroll about on a web page or so, its really jumpy.. anyone able to advise ?
[02:02] <sylpheedClaws> yep...
[02:02] <Morrissey> LjL, oh ... allright, Ill check it out. Thanks :)
[02:02] <chump> is there an application available to take a screenshot of a specified area of the screen ?
[02:02] <sylpheedClaws> Metisse alone is worth it, but DrakFON is too much
[02:03] <Morrissey> mhm
[02:03] <DjViper> St3D1: install gfx drivers
[02:03] <b33r> DjViper, I just want to upload a file but can't figure out how ;<
[02:03] <St3D1> k ill try
[02:03] <sylpheedClaws> speaking of which, has anyone installed Metisse on Ubuntu?
[02:03] <rbs-tito> chump: The KDE one works well
[02:03] <DjViper> b33r: hmm, you can do that with ssh
[02:03] <sparr> wkdown: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[02:03] <MoL1> aoeuhtns-: try ubuntu!
[02:03] <St3D1> thanks DjViper
[02:03] <DjViper> St3D1: np
[02:03] <MoL1> BetaCookies: what isn't correct about it?
[02:04] <BetaCookies> MoL1 it's recognized as an ethernet connection, so I can't select the network
[02:04] <BetaCookies> and its using the wrong network :p
[02:04] <jedi__> chump: man gnome-screenshot
[02:04] <kvidell> b33r: scp or gftp will both do file transfers over ssh if that's what you mean.
[02:04] <MoL1> BetaCookies: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:04] <BetaCookies> MoL1 well its the livecd of edgy XD
[02:04] <chump> thanks jedi__ and rbs-tito i'll check those out ;)
[02:04] <b33r> kvidell, can u give me the whole command so I try?
[02:05] <Morrissey> LjL, damn that was hard to read ... ponter etc ... I have one thing: "keycode 122 = Pointer_Button2" in there .. but now I want to get button9 to set F12 ... have any ideas?
[02:05] <MoL1> BetaCookies: there were some major improvements to wireless support in feisty - I would suggest that first.
[02:05] <DjViper> b33r: do this: man scp
[02:05] <noname> aubade: Lol... could you please just PM me whats in the properties of that icon or take a SS and send to me? It'd be greatly appreciated
[02:05] <BetaCookies> MoL1 are you serious :| I have to download a whole iso now -.-
[02:05] <Morrissey> LjL, the manual was crappy :P
[02:05] <kvidell> b33r: for scp -- scp localfile user@remotehost:/where/on/system/to/put/it
[02:05] <DjViper> b33r: there are many variables, we cant give you an exact answer
[02:05] <sylpheedClaws> betaCookies: or install and upgrade...
[02:06] <b33r> well k thnx lemme try
[02:06] <kvidell> djviper: not like you need any for SCP really :-P It's pretty basic
[02:06] <MoL1> BetaCookies: on my feisty laptop, my wireless works out-of-the-box, but you could try to install network-manager in edgy
[02:06] <LjL> Morrissey: not sure. there's xkeycaps that's a graphical interface for xmodmap, but it wouldn't appear to support mouse. i guess you need to find out what the keycode for F12 is
[02:06] <MoL1> BetaCookies: it comes by default in feisty
[02:06] <BetaCookies> sylpheedClaws I thought people always were against apt-get dist-upgrade? Well I guess I'll try it, its a fresh installation
[02:06] <DjViper> kvidell: true
[02:06] <vamitrou> excuse me could anyone tell me how i can see visitors of a channel with xchat ?
[02:06] <Smolar> Whoever was helping me, it gives me an error and doesn't function :|
[02:07] <rbs-tito> vamitrou: In xchat-gnome I click the "1185 users" button on the bottom left
[02:07] <kvidell> b33r: gftp is a gui application that may be more comfortable. apt-cache show gftp
[02:07] <DjViper> Smolar: crdlb was helping you
[02:07] <b33r> kvidell, ok thanks
[02:08] <vamitrou> yeah rbs-tito but it disappears when i click sth else
[02:08] <Smolar> Thank you, my Windows box crashed and I don't have logs.
[02:08] <crdlb> Smolar: what happened when you ran the command?
[02:08] <crdlb> DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace
[02:09] <Smolar> Let me get a pen.
[02:09] <MoL1> BetaCookies: you could try sudo aptitude install network-manager
[02:09] <rbs-tito> vamitrou: that's how xchat works, Konversation has a permanent list
[02:09] <Smolar> Yes, I entered that exactly.  It was an error about shader windows.
[02:09] <hosti> hi every body
[02:09] <rbs-tito> hosti: Hi
[02:09] <haiba> hi
[02:09] <kvidell> Hi there, hosti
[02:09] <vamitrou> thanks a lot :)
[02:09] <kvidell> hewow haiba
[02:09] <hosti> i have one question
[02:09] <MoL1> anyone here get hdparm to do anything useful on feisty?
[02:09] <vanberge> anybody know of a program that automatically switches wallpapers for you on a timed basis?  thx in advance
[02:10] <BetaCookies> MoL1 well I guess it can't hurt to upgrade to feisty ^_^
[02:10] <rbs-tito> vanberge: Wouldn't be too much hassle to write  abash script to do it
[02:10] <DjViper> vanberge: a bash script can do that hehe
[02:10] <haiba> sorry, i still use dapper!
[02:10] <sparr> how can i make the thunderbird composer soft-wrap long lines?
[02:10] <Smolar> window manager warning: "" found configuration database is not a valid binding  "toggle_shading"
[02:10] <DjViper> rbs-tito: beat me
[02:10] <vanberge> rbs-tito, DjViper... lol. gesetroot ?
[02:10] <BetaCookies> I'm kinda mad because I downloaded feisty, but i forgot to burn it to a cd, then i formatted <,>
[02:10] <vanberge> BetaCookies, ouch.  :-(
[02:10] <SpeakerMania> Didn't work
[02:10] <kvidell> I've done that beforee
[02:11] <BetaCookies> vanberge yeah I'm kinda kicking myself over it
[02:11] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i install a driver made for windows in ubuntu (sound Card) preferably without wine
[02:11] <rbs-tito> vanberge: gesetroot?
[02:11] <whileimhere>  Hi, can anyone tell me why sometimes a video file gets a thumbnail and other times it doesn't?  I have already checked the file sizes and types for preview under the preferences options.
[02:11] <hosti> who know how start slab menu?
[02:11] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: What sound card is it?
[02:11] <vanberge> rbs-tito, i was asking what command?  i've used esetroot and gsetroot before i think
[02:11] <crdlb> Smolar: that's a warning not an error, it should not have brought metacity down
[02:11] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito a hercules muse
[02:11] <crdlb> did it return to the prompt?
[02:11] <SpeakerMania> I booted into Recovery Mode and did the passwd command. It then asked for new Unix password but it wouldn't let my type.
[02:12] <SpeakerMania> *me. What is wrong?
[02:12] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: I'll look it up
[02:12] <Comrade-Sergei> thanks
[02:12] <Smolar>  I just found an article dealing with this topic, let me try something they recommended in xorg.conf
[02:13] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Which version of Ubuntu, and what is the exact sound chipset?
[02:13] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito feisty and i i have no idea
[02:13] <MoL1> My laptop PATA hard disk is only running in UDMA2 mode, but is capable of UDMA5 - but hdparm won't let me change it
[02:13] <py_geek> ALL:: Hey, im having trouble booting from the ubuntu feisty cd. I see the ubuntu logo come up, so i go to start or install ubuntu. Then a screen comes up with a line of white text, then the screen goes black. about 1 min and a half later, a BIG whit flashing underscore comes up, then some BIG stretched text comes up (horizantally stretched.) after it says some stuff the screen blacks out (no backlight) then comes back up black(with backlight). then the cd driv
[02:13] <axl000_> why when i write in gnome, sometimes the keybord goes crazy, sorry for my bad english
[02:14] <hosti> i have one question. who know how start slab menu?
[02:14] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: To find the name of the chipset, run this command "lspci |grep audio"
[02:14] <sylpheedClaws> py_geek: Edgy, right? Let me guess...
[02:14] <Comrade-Sergei> C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[02:14] <Comrade-Sergei>  thats the one
[02:14] <MoL1> SpeakerMania: it's normal for the keyboard input not to be echoed to screen for security reasons
[02:14] <py_geek> sylpheedClaws: no, feisty.
[02:14] <SpeakerMania>  I booted into Recovery Mode and did the passwd command. It then asked for new Unix password but it wouldn't let me type. What do I do? I can't log in.
[02:14] <mmdski> is there a howto or guide on the boot process of ubuntu?
[02:14] <b33r> thanks kvidell scp worked =)
[02:15] <SpeakerMania> Okay, so I should just type normal?
[02:15] <kvidell> b33r: welcome :)
[02:15] <MoL1> SpeakerMania: just type the password you want, and the system will ask you to re-type it to make sure it is correct
[02:15] <mmdski> the initng process
[02:15] <poobert__> why does this freenode keep destroying my connections?!@
[02:16] <MoL1> !hdparm
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdparm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <Smolar> The article was of little help :|
[02:16] <noname> Alright. Well can anyone PM me the info that comes up when you right click on the default network manager on the top menu and go to properties; or take a SS or.. something? (in feisty) :)
[02:16] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito i ll brb
[02:16] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: I don't know how well this works, but system > preferences > hardware information. Click the device database button, it should run you through it. (New feature, never tried it)
[02:16] <thelostpatrol> where can i get good login screen themes?
[02:17] <rbs-tito> thelostpatrol: www.gnome-look.org
[02:17] <thelostpatrol> sweet, thanks
[02:17] <HiddenHax> Hey does anyone know how to get security software from here http://backtrack.offensive-security.com/index.php?title=Tools onto Ubuntu?
[02:17] <BloodyTux> MIA-Hi
[02:17] <MoL1> away just getting coffee
[02:17] <BloodyTux> Mia-Hu
[02:17] <sylpheedClaws> if I'm trying to go for the lightest desktop setup possible, would launching GTK apps wreck it, since GTK has to be loaded?
[02:17] <BloodyTux> Mia-Ha
[02:18] <BloodyTux> Mia-haha
[02:18] <py_geek> ALL:: Hey, im having trouble booting from the ubuntu feisty cd. I see the ubuntu logo come up, so i go to start or install ubuntu. Then a screen comes up with a line of white text, then the screen goes black. about 1 min and a half later, a BIG whit flashing underscore comes up, then some BIG stretched text comes up (horizantally stretched.) after it says some stuff the screen blacks out (no backlight) then comes back up black(with backlight). then the cd driv
[02:18] <sylpheedClaws> I'm using IceWM
[02:18] <HiddenHax> LOL BloodTux
[02:18] <oxdot> hi guys, any body tried to install ubuntu with a hdr (1280/720) tv on a nvidia (msi 7300 gt) ? live bootsplash ok, but the hdr disconect (resolution not supported == black screen) when tring to install ... vesa seems not to support 16/9 some video=nv:1280x720@60 possible ?
[02:18] <spacefrog> is there a way to install Ubuntu without booting into the LiveCD first?
[02:19] <b4silence> download ubuntu alternate
[02:19] <MoL1> spacefrog: use the alternate CD
[02:19] <sylpheedClaws> spacefrog: unpack the ISO, sqfs image, and copy it to a HD
[02:19] <sylpheedClaws> ;)
[02:19] <rbs-tito> spacefrog: The alternate CD
[02:19] <b4silence> lol
[02:19] <spacefrog> ah i see
[02:19] <b4silence> there's no need for that :P
[02:19] <rbs-tito> lol
[02:19] <oxdot> spacefrog, you can try the alternate iso
[02:19] <py_geek> sylpheedClaws: i thought u were going to help me...
[02:19] <sylpheedClaws> I had some issues in Edgy...
[02:20] <mmdski> boot process for ubuntu... anybody?
[02:20] <spacefrog> is the alternate ISO a full download, also?
[02:20] <sylpheedClaws> !upstart
[02:20] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[02:20] <eck_> sylpheedClaws: gtk+ is very lightweight, the gnome libraries are not
[02:20] <riddlebox> hello, I added a new graphics card in feisty, a second graphics card, how do I use both monitors?
[02:20] <rbs-tito> spacefrog: Yeah, sorry
[02:20] <MoL1> spacefrog: back in the warty era, the only install method was with 'alternate'
[02:20] <sylpheedClaws> so using Thunar as my filer would be OK?
[02:20] <rbs-tito> riddlebox: Nvidia?
[02:20] <eck_> yeah
[02:20] <riddlebox> rbs-tito, matrox
[02:21] <spacefrog> oh, okay
[02:21] <kronus_> Hi, I'm having a problem installing ubuntu on an older VAIO laptop
[02:21] <eck_> although, if you have too much free ram then you're definitely being wasteful...
[02:21] <MoL1> kronus_: what's the problem?
[02:21] <noname> Blah... anyone, please? I'd just like to have this resolved and working again. My wireless light was working, before, with the program running in the top panel and now it's not.
[02:21] <sylpheedClaws> because I'm quite attached to Thunar...
[02:21] <mmdski> sweet, thanks
[02:21] <rbs-tito> riddlebox: As  far as I know, you doit manually in xorg.conf
[02:21] <zedfloyd> sylpheed, i did it! thanks for your help!!!!
[02:22] <rbs-tito> noname: Is it set to roaming?
[02:22] <riddlebox> ohh, I thought there was somewhere that you can say, enable second monitor or something
[02:22] <sylpheedClaws> welcome, anytime!
[02:22] <sylpheedClaws> :)
[02:22] <noname> The internet is working fine. I just want the status icon in the top panel
[02:22] <kronus_> MoL1: it just stops.  I'm trying the server install right now, but after hitting the 'install U buntu to disk" option, i get a blinking white cursor and no disk or hd activity
[02:22] <zedfloyd> sylpheed, can i instal beryl on ubuntu?
[02:22] <kronus_> laptop is a VAIO PCG-FX140
[02:22] <riddlebox> rbs-tito, how do I check to see if ubuntu sees the card?
[02:23] <noname> rbs-tito: When I go into add to panel and add the network manager (which is different than the one I want) it IS set to roaming
[02:23] <rbs-tito> riddlebox: lspci?
[02:23] <MoL1> kronus_: first thing to check is if the CD is good - run the check CD option
[02:23] <rbs-tito> riddlebox: Or the hardware manager
[02:23] <oxdot> riddlebox, there is a howto 'dual-screen' on the french forum, so i think there should be some one on the english one
[02:23] <kronus_> MoL1: did that, with the same result.  Blinking cursor, cd activity, no results after 20 minutes
[02:23] <rbs-tito> noname: System > administration > networking. make sure roaming is checked on your wireless card
[02:24] <wonderl00t> For the love of all thats geeky yet holy: please oh PLEASE can someone tell me how to PERMANENTLY disable my internal sound card in favor of my pci card :(
[02:24] <MoL1> kronus_: do you have access to another computer to check the CD?
[02:24] <riddlebox> ok thanks
[02:24] <rbs-tito> wonderl00t: From the BIOS?
[02:24] <rbs-tito> wonderl00t: Blacklist the module for the onboard card?
[02:24] <noname> rbs-tito: It is enabled
[02:24] <wonderl00t> yeah...internal beep
[02:24] <sylpheedClaws> !thunar
[02:25] <ubotu> thunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It's a good lightweight replacement for Nautilus and is very similar. To read more about thunar, visit http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html or, if you would like to use it, visit your nearest Main repository.
[02:25] <sylpheedClaws> !info thunar
[02:25] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 357 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[02:25] <wonderl00t> rbs-tito: how would i do that?
[02:25] <kronus_> MoL1: ok, the 6.06 LTS gets as far as "uncompressing Linux.. Ok, booting the kernel"
[02:25] <kronus_> on a pressed disk that I have verified before
[02:25] <rbs-tito> wonderl00t: What is the chipset for the onboard?
[02:26] <wonderl00t> rbs-tito: INTEL ICH5
[02:26] <rbs-tito> wonderl00t: And fo rthe PCI?
[02:26] <noname> rbs-tito: Would roaming being off cause the icon to not show up in the top panel?
[02:26] <zedfloyd> anyone have a link to drivers for the nvidia 7 series for ubuntu
[02:26] <rbs-tito> noname: Mayb
[02:26] <rbs-tito> *maybe
[02:27] <rbs-tito> zedfloyd: Feisty?
[02:27] <zedfloyd> yes
[02:27] <wonderl00t> ICE 1712 Multi (m audio audiophile 24/96)
[02:27] <rbs-tito> zedfloyd: You can just do it automatically now
[02:27] <zedfloyd> which one?
[02:27] <noname> rbs-tito: Well it's enabled and the internet is working fine.
[02:27] <zedfloyd> Linux AMD64/EM64T
[02:27] <zedfloyd> Latest Version: 1.0-9755
[02:27] <zedfloyd> Latest Legacy GPU Version (1.0-71xx series): 1.0-7185
[02:27] <zedfloyd> Latest Legacy GPU Version (1.0-96xx series): 1.0-9631
[02:27] <zedfloyd> Archive
[02:27] <wonderl00t> rbs-tito:ICE 1712 Multi (m audio audiophile 24/96) so it sticks out
[02:27] <rbs-tito> zedfloyd: system > administration > restricted drivers manager
[02:27] <noname> rbs-tito: My wireless status light no longer lights up on my laptop, though. which is odd...
[02:27] <forbitel> just wondering have anyone got the suspend option working in a presario V2000 serie?
[02:28] <kronus_> MoL1: any ideas?
[02:28] <rbs-tito> forbitel: Check the hardware list
[02:28] <MoL1> kronus_: you will probably need some boot parameters to get it going
[02:29] <zedfloyd> it will find the drivers automatically on the net? or do i have to download then it will find them?
[02:29] <peepsalot> wonderl00t, when you reboot, it should say press "Del" to go into BIOS settings, it might say DEL, or some other key like F8, F10, etc.
[02:29] <rbs-tito> zedfloyd: It will download and apply them
[02:29] <forbitel> hardware list... ok... where?
[02:29] <MoL1> kronus_: alternative would be upgrade to a more recent version - how old is the VAIO
[02:29] <peepsalot> wonderl00t, in the bios settings you will need to search around, but there should be a setting somewhere to disable onboard sound
[02:29] <rbs-tito> forbitel: Everything wroked in Hoary, should still work
[02:30] <wonderl00t> peepsalot: is there no way to disable it JUST for ubuntu?
[02:30] <rbs-tito> forbitel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsCompaq
[02:30] <peepsalot> wonderl00t, why do you want that?
[02:30] <kronus_> MoL1: very old, but I'm installing an OS for a friend on it, so upgrading isn't really an option.  Can you point me in the right direction for the boot parameters?
[02:30] <wonderl00t> i have a pci soundcard that gets pushed aside sometimes by my internal card....
[02:31] <wonderl00t> alsa mixes them up
[02:31] <three> hello all
[02:31] <kdub432> disable the onboard in your bios
[02:31] <kdub432> should fix it
[02:32] <forbitel> oh... weird.... i just installed feisty... and every time that  i try to  wake it up from suspend it will go in a black screen
[02:32] <peepsalot> i'm not sure how to disable it in software.  I don't understand why you don't want to just disable in BIOS
[02:32] <three> does anyone know how to get a video playing in totem (gstreamer) with a composite window manager on?
[02:32] <rbs-tito> forbitel: Suspend is dodgy at best. Probably bad drivers
[02:32] <rbs-tito> three: Shouldn't make a difference
[02:32] <peepsalot> you want to be able to use the onboard sound in windows or something?
[02:33] <three> rbs-tito: when I play a video it wont show the image, i just get sound
[02:33] <MoL1> kronus_: have a look at http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-hardware/vaio-fx140-suse93.file
[02:34] <rbs-tito> three: What video? Compositing shouldn't make a difference. Is this a WMV or something?
[02:34] <forbitel> ok the only diferent driver that i'm using besides the ones that came with feisty is ndiswrapper for my wireless...
[02:34] <forbitel> i'm not using any ATI driver for my X200... should i?
[02:34] <rbs-tito> forbitel: No, I mean the manufacturers (HP) don't have good suspend drivers.
[02:34] <forbitel> OH.... got ya....
[02:35] <spasticteapot> forbitel: Yah. It's a bummer.
[02:35] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito whatd you find
[02:35] <three> rbs-tito- all video, DVD's, xvid even the "experience ubuntu" video does it too
[02:35] <rbs-tito> forbitel: Probably HPs fault. The problem is suspend isn't very standardised, manufacturers hack around windows to get it going. So until Linux gets  a bigger userbase they probably won't bother
[02:35] <rbs-tito> three: Tried turning compositing off?
[02:36] <spasticteapot> rbs-tito: Yep.
[02:36] <forbitel> that's sad... i also installed it in my OLD T23 IBM p3  and suspend works as a champ... cant believe my new laptop dont even work like that
[02:36] <lukasz_> #dragonngetwork
[02:36] <rbs-tito> spasticteapot: ...Yep what? :D
[02:36] <BetaCookies> What's suspend? :p
[02:36] <BetaCookies> Is that like sleep?
[02:36] <three> rbs-tito: yeah that works, but I hate having to change back and forth, just wondered if someone knew a work around
[02:36] <spasticteapot> rbs-tito: That's the problem with suspend/sleep.
[02:37] <MoL1> kronus_: boot parameters - this answer might be relevant https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3623
[02:37] <lukasz_> join #dragonnetwork.net
[02:37] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Your sound isn't playing?
[02:37] <rbs-tito> spasticteapot: Ah, got ya ;)
[02:37] <doug_dead> can anybody help me? i'm gettin this error http://xs115.xs.to/xs115/07184/tela.jpg when i try to add anything to the gnome panel
[02:37] <Hamm_desktop> is anyone here familiar with Beryl?  I have it installed and working and i have a few simple questions that i can't find on the website
[02:37] <jedi__> suspend and hibernate in feisty for macbook works perfekt
[02:37] <MoL1> Hamm_desktop: fire away
[02:37] <bruenig> Hamm_desktop, #ubuntu-effects
[02:37] <rbs-tito> three: I didn't know it was an issue, searched for a bug?
[02:37] <three> Hamm_desktop: whats the question?
[02:37] <Hamm_desktop> i have the desktop cube enabled but i can't figure out how to zoom out so i can look at it
[02:37] <three> rbs-tito: not yet
[02:38] <MoL1> Hamm_desktop: click and hold middle mouse button while moving moust
[02:38] <hendrixski> do I need a separate debuild for phelper and for chroot?
[02:38] <MoL1> moust=mouse
[02:38] <forbitel> so... there is anything that i could do to get it working besides complain about HP
[02:38] <Hamm_desktop> brb
[02:38] <rullie> hey guys, i have a fresh ubuntu install and totem doesn't play any file, what codec package do i need?
[02:38] <three> rbs-tito: who should i file it with the aiglx,team  the totem team, or gstreamer team
[02:38] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito yes
[02:39] <uNR[Ron] talent> rullie, install automatix from getautomatix.com and install the mutlimedia codecs to enable totem to play almost all formats
[02:39] <crdlb> three: it's already fixed in Xorg 7.3
[02:39] <hendrixski> or if I develop something on chroot can I package it by setting phelper to the same debuilder somehow?
[02:39] <crdlb> three: but the bug is in the free ati and intel drivers
[02:39] <crdlb> so none of the above
[02:39] <three> crdlb: is that what shipped with feisty?
[02:39] <rullie> uNR[Ron] talent, does the site have a howto?
[02:39] <jedi__> Hamm_desktop: <ctrl><alt><middle-mouse-bottum> ;-)
[02:39] <crdlb> three: 7.2
[02:39] <rbs-tito> forbitel: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/v2000/ Try this
[02:40] <rbs-tito> three: try Totem, they will correct it if need be
[02:40] <crdlb> three: I'm running 7.3 on my gentoo box, and aiglx+Xv works fine now
[02:40] <uNR[Ron] talent> rullie, its a .deb package, download an run :) automatix will then be found udner apps>system tools
[02:40] <noelferreira> how can i start an xterm console minimized?
[02:40] <three> crdlb: well im screwed on both fronts im using the intel driver too :)
[02:40] <crdlb> there's nothing totem can do
[02:40] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito it looks like its playing but there is no sound
[02:40] <crdlb> Comrade-Sergei: are you having the same problem?
[02:40] <rullie> uNR[Ron] talent, oh, didn't know there's a installer for deb package :)
[02:41] <forbitel> rullie   get the Gstreamers they works fine for me.. lot of codecs
[02:41] <crdlb> three: Mplayer for whatever reason works fine despite the bug
[02:41] <mathmoi> How can I install an edgy package under Feisty. (How do I add the depot, where do I find the address?)
[02:41] <rullie> crdlb, there's nothing totem can do or can't do
[02:41] <sylpheedClaws> does Thunar use GTK?
[02:41] <crdlb> sylpheedClaws: yes
[02:41] <Comrade-Sergei> crdlb yes but its worse now
[02:41] <three> ty all
[02:41] <sylpheedClaws> and nothing else (major, I mean, exo excluded)
[02:42] <crdlb> sylpheedClaws: well it requires some xfce libs
[02:42] <sylpheedClaws> liek exo
[02:42] <Hamm_desktop> jedi__:  that does not work (ctrl+alt+middle mouse button)
[02:42] <eck> sylpheedClaws: if you are unsure you should look at the dependencies yourself with apt-cache
[02:42] <sylpheedClaws> *like
[02:42] <Comrade-Sergei> crdlb welll if your taking about my sound
[02:42] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: This is an 82801DB based card?
[02:42] <sylpheedClaws> info thunar
[02:42] <sylpheedClaws> !info thunar
[02:42] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 357 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[02:42] <Hamm_desktop> oh wait
[02:42] <oxdot> nobody have some idea how to force a 1280/720 (16/9) resolution on a nvidia card for the install ? (vesa seems not to support it)
[02:42] <Hamm_desktop> yes it does!~!! woot
[02:42] <rullie> hey crdlb, everywhere i go, there's you
[02:42] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito again i have no idea
[02:42] <forbitel> ok... guys... THANKS A LOT FOR DA HELP  :)   i'll keep looking for a solution for my suspend problem.... LATER
[02:43] <eck> sylpheedClaws: you can check the dependencies for foo with apt-cache show foo
[02:43] <crdlb> rullie: I'm in like 20 channels :)
[02:43] <jedi__> is there a programm like itun*es in os_x --> feisty?!
[02:43] <iter> I can't believe that soon the answer to the "suspend problem" questions is going to be "dude, get a dell"
[02:43] <Hamm_desktop> ok so how do i zoom out when i'm in that 3d desktop mode?
[02:43] <eck> (or apt-cache depends foo)
[02:43] <iter> :) : ): )
[02:43] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: in that lspci| grep audio do you see that number?
[02:43] <wowiebot> hi all
[02:43] <Hamm_desktop> is this all posted somewhere?
[02:43] <sylpheedClaws> is glib the GNOME libs?
[02:43] <sylpheedClaws> !info glib
[02:43] <ubotu> Package glib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:43] <sylpheedClaws> !info libglib
[02:43] <eck> sylpheedClaws: glib is separate
[02:44] <ubotu> Package libglib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:44] <sylpheedClaws> !info libglib2
[02:44] <ubotu> Package libglib2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:44] <noelferreira> how can i start an xterm console minimized?
[02:44] <wowiebot> anyone know any good toutorials on how to install wine
[02:44] <eck> sylpheedClaws: also, please pm ubotu to use the info commands, do not flood the channel with them
[02:44] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito well the onboard one is very close to that number the card is a 02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[02:45] <salty> rbs-tito, i have sound but very little
[02:45] <rbs-tito> salty: What chipset
[02:45] <salty> intel
[02:46] <Tarkus> jrib: are you still there?
[02:46] <jedi__> Hamm_desktop: i am sorry - for me it works - otherwise you have to configure it in beryl-manager - don't know where ...
[02:46] <jrib> Tarkus: yes
[02:46] <salty> i use the hda intel driver rbs-tito
[02:46] <Tarkus> jrib: did you answer what i was asking? sorry i left for a while.
[02:46] <noelferreira> how can i start an xterm console minimized?
[02:46] <rbs-tito> salty: Specifically what chipset?
[02:46] <jrib> Tarkus: yep: there's nothing to compile, just extract the tar.gz and run SongBird,so it's very unlikely you will be able to mess that up :)
[02:47] <Pelo> noelferreira,  man xterm
[02:47] <Tarkus> jrib: awesome, so.. correct me if im wrong, but does that mean it doesnt get installed?
[02:47] <noelferreira> Pelo: i can't find that argument
[02:47] <salty> rbs-tito, 82801G ICH7
[02:47] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito?
[02:47] <Pelo> noelferreira,  I was telling you to check the xterm manpage
[02:48] <jrib> Tarkus: well, it depends on what you mean by that.  If you want, you can copy it to /opt (with sudo and set up a symlink in /usr/local/bin) but you don't have to
[02:48] <Pelo> noelferreira,  nvm I just got what you said
[02:48] <matt_____> what is the name of that music player for gnome that mimics amarok?
[02:48] <Pelo> listen ?
[02:48] <rbs-tito> salty: Change to the older  alsa-driver 1.0.14rc1.
[02:48] <Pelo> gtkpod ?
[02:48] <rbs-tito> salty:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/75725
[02:49] <noelferreira> Pelo: of coursed i checked it before asking. there's no such argument in there
[02:49] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: What is the full output of lspci|grep audio
[02:49] <Tarkus> jrib: not sure what symlink is, but ill look that up. im still very new to linux. thanks
[02:49] <salty> rbs-tito, is the instructions to do that in the link?
[02:49] <Pelo> noelferreira,  you can probably setup devil's pie to do it for you
[02:50] <rbs-tito> salty: Maybe, you might need to check a backports repository
[02:50] <jrib> Tarkus: you can think of a symlink like a shortcut
[02:50] <salty> ok...thnx rbs-tito
[02:50] <Crema10> updating ubuntu via upgrade broke my beryl ... everytime i start beryl or Desktop Effects, its breaks my desktop, goes to login page
[02:50] <Crema10> whats going one?
[02:50] <Tarkus> jrib: alright.
[02:50] <Pelo> jrib, yes he can tink of a symlink as a shortcut but I recently learned that it is so much more
[02:50] <jrib> Tarkus: essentially, all that does for you is allow you to type "SongBird" in a terminal and have the app run instead of typing out /really/long/path/to/songbird to run it.  But if you just use it in your going it doesn't really matter
[02:51] <rbs-tito> Pelo: Using edgy beryl packages?
[02:51] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18896/
[02:51] <MoL1> Crema10: have you updated Beryl as well?
[02:51] <Pelo> rbs-tito, ? sorry ?
[02:51] <Crema10> MoL1: i believe so.. let me double check please
[02:51] <jrib> Tarkus: by "going" I meant "gui"
[02:52] <jrib> Pelo: true
[02:52] <vall-k> buenas!
[02:52] <vall-k> que tal familia?
[02:52] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: You should probably disable one from the bios
[02:52] <HiddenHax> Wasn't http://ubuntustudio.org/ released last month?
[02:52] <Pelo> !es
[02:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:52] <Pelo> !pr
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Crema10> MoL1: i'm not sure, my synaptic has a feisty repo check.. so i'm assuming everytimje i do an update, it looks for updates, but i dont get any
[02:52] <Pelo> what the trigger for portugese ?
[02:52] <jrib> Pelo: pt
[02:52] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito i never had to before?
[02:52] <Pelo> tk
[02:53] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Try running asoundconf reset-default-card
[02:53] <HiddenHax> Cant wait for Ubuntu Studio!!!!!
[02:53] <lokken> Hey guys. I've got a quick question.
[02:53] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito ok its like it did nothing is that what its supposed to do?
[02:53] <xtknight> HiddenHax, actually there is a ubuntu studio pkg set
[02:53] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Now run alsamixer
[02:54] <Pelo> lokken,  get ready for a trick answer
[02:54] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Do you see "mm" under any of the collumns?
[02:54] <lokken> With the exception of 'apt-get dist-upgrade' is there a way to upgrade from Edgy to Fesity without a GUI?
[02:54] <Comrade-Sergei> and? rbs-tito
[02:54] <HiddenHax> xtknight where?!
[02:54] <jrib> !upgrade > lokken (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:54] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito all but one
[02:54] <jrib> lokken: yeah, see the recommended server way
[02:54] <xtknight> HiddenHax, ubuntustudio-*
[02:54] <xtknight> HiddenHax, apt-cache search
[02:54] <Smaug> does anybody know how to apply music to all of the slides in office presentation?
[02:54] <knapp> I am having a problem getting the logout dialog to appear. When I click System > Logout, the desktop freezes. Only other way to get around it is to use the terminal.
[02:54] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito i dont think its a alsa problem though isnt it a driver problem
[02:54] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: That means mute ;) Left and right to go to each and pres the "m" key to unmute (Change to numbers)
[02:55] <HiddenHax> xtknight will it work?
[02:55] <Crema10> MoL1: ok i'm going to assume i havent upgraded beryl, whats the best way to do it?
[02:55] <xtknight> HiddenHax, i think so
[02:55] <lokken> Excellent. Thanks. :)
[02:55] <xtknight> HiddenHax, ive installed the pkgs, but havent messed around with it at all
[02:55] <HiddenHax> xtknight sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-video?
[02:55] <xtknight> HiddenHax, yea thatll do it
[02:55] <Tarkus> jrib: alright, well is it possible to have it act like it was actually installed? like everything in the repos.. (you can find it in the "Applications>Sounds and Video" menu, and you can set it as default player for .mp3, etc..)
[02:55] <xtknight> for example at lest
[02:55] <xtknight> there's -audio also
[02:55] <MoL1> Crema10: Did you install beryl from the beryl-project repo originally?
[02:56] <HiddenHax> xtknight huge amounts of files!
[02:56] <jrib> Tarkus: if you google "songbird ubuntu" you will get a script that claims to do that, but I would only run it after reading its contents and understanding what it does (it's pretty short)
[02:56] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito still the same problem
[02:56] <Crema10> MoL1: to be honest, i dont remember... but i think i did
[02:56] <xtknight> HiddenHax, yeah heh i have like 100 more shortcuts in my audio/video menu section, like i say tho havent tried any of em
[02:56] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Now double click the volume icon in the top right
[02:56] <HiddenHax> xtknight lol
[02:57] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito yea
[02:57] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Got a "Switches" tab?
[02:57] <MSTK> does anyone know how I can find the type of video card I have?
[02:57] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito yes
[02:57] <xtknight> MSTK, lspci
[02:57] <bwang> Hi, I REALLY need help dpkg-reconfiguring my xserver-xorg on my laptop which uses the Intel 855GM.  It was working like a charm before but I think I messed up x-server by mis-configuring it.  Now, it is giving me the "Fatal server error: no screens found.  XIO: fatgal IO error 104"
[02:57] <knapp> I am having a problem getting the logout dialog to appear. When I click System > Logout, the desktop freezes. Only other way to get around it is to use the terminal.
[02:57] <MoL1> Crema10: I'm assuming you're using AIGLX as the overlay - try http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX
[02:57] <MSTK> xtknight - thanks
[02:57] <cycom> Ralink cards are supported now?
[02:57] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: uncheck the "digital/analog output jack" box.
[02:58] <xtknight> ralink are among the most well-supported
[02:58] <cycom> or were they always?
[02:58] <xtknight> open source i believe?
[02:58] <Tarkus> jrib: alright, well, all i want to do now is test it out and see what the program is like, and if i like it. im going to wait untill its stable first release comes out, do you think it will be possible to do it then without running script? hopefully even a .deb?
[02:58] <rbs-tito> Ralink are awful
[02:58] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito i dont have that box...
[02:58] <Crema10> MoL1: ok let me look into that, thanks
[02:58] <rbs-tito> Open, but with drivers that do not workk
[02:58] <cycom> Well, ubuntu supported it out of the box.
[02:58] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: What boxes do you have?
[02:58] <cycom> Linksys Card.
[02:58] <Hamm_desktop> k i'm sitting here watching a utube video of Beryl   and they guy has zoomed out on his cube so it is small in the center and he can zoom in and out
[02:58] <Hamm_desktop> anyone know how this is performed?
[02:58] <jrib> Tarkus: someone will probably package it, since it looks pretty popular on the forums
[02:58] <xtknight> rbs-tito, bad experience with ralink im guesing ?
[02:58] <Pelo> bwang, boot up recovery mode and run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf   if you haven'T done it already
[02:58] <cycom> Hamm_desktop: I was wondering the same thing.
[02:58] <nanliek> anyone know the minimum hardware requirements for beryl?
[02:58] <rbs-tito> cycom: The 2500 works out of the box, the rt2561 (It's replacement) doens't. The 2500 didn't support WEP natively either
[02:59] <Hamm_desktop> i needs ta know  :'(
[02:59] <xtknight> Pelo, bwang try this to regenerate xorg.conf:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <bwang> I "think" (after trying to dpkg-reconfgure it so many times") that I must have entered the so called "bus-specfic format" wrong
[02:59] <Tarkus> jrib: alright, thanks for the help man.
[02:59] <xtknight> actually, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" for less frustration (less menus)
[02:59] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito 3d control, pcm capture, synth capture, line in capture, cd capture, mic boost, mic capture, and IE958 utput
[03:00] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Try following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419974
[03:00] <cycom> rbs-tito: that's funny, because I have an RT2561, and it worked just great on the liveCD
[03:00] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: Is the right card selected in file > change device?
[03:00] <rbs-tito> (Your card + alsa)
[03:00] <cycom> rbs-tito: In fact, I'm sshed to my box right now with it.
[03:00] <rbs-tito> cycom: Really????
[03:00] <Hamm_desktop> anyone know of a  Beryl  specific channel and or server?
[03:00] <cycom> rbs-tito: Really really.
[03:00] <xtknight> !beryl
[03:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:01] <rbs-tito> cycom: Mine drove me to buy an NDISWrapper supported card
[03:01] <lpanebr> hello! how do i install de ATI Radeon 1300 on my just installed Feisty 7.04?
[03:01] <rbs-tito> Hamm_desktop: #beryl
[03:01] <Hamm_desktop> ty
[03:01] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito i have the c-media one twice do i use the alsa one or the oss one?
[03:01] <rbs-tito> alsa
[03:01] <cycom> rbs-tito: 00:0d.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[03:01] <spasticteapot> Anyone here used the SB Live! USB?
[03:01] <Pelo> knapp,  I think you just got lost in the rush,  sorry about taht,  I donT' have an answer for you , please repeate your problem for the others and check the forum
[03:01] <rbs-tito> cycom: It hooks up and all?
[03:01] <MoL1> anyone help me with a disk DMA problem?
[03:01] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito then yes, and what does this thread have to do with this?
[03:02] <cycom> rbs-tito: It took a little bit of time, but this is an old machine. like 533mhz
[03:02] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: He has the same chipset
[03:02] <cycom> rbs-tito: but yes, it detected my networks, linked up, and connected.
[03:02] <rbs-tito> cycom: Network manager?
[03:02] <Pelo> lpanebr, in the system > admin menu there is a menu for restricted drivers  , try that first
[03:02] <xtknight> MoL1, yeah?
[03:02] <cycom> rbs-tito: DHCP then aquired an address.  This is PCI.
[03:02] <bwang> xtknight: I think I must have entered the so called "bus specific format" or busID for the video card incorrectly, b/c when I do lspci it turns out being 00:02.0 (VGA comatible controller) but apparently the xserver configurator doesn't accept the "."
[03:02] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito and?
[03:02] <cycom> rbs-tito: indeed.
[03:02] <xtknight> MoL1, you'll have to elaborate
[03:02] <cycom> rbs-tito: no mucking about with iwconfig.
[03:03] <xtknight> bwang, ah hrmm i usually just omit that PCI bus id entry and it has always worked fine
[03:03] <rbs-tito> Comrade-Sergei: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2518340 Check here too
[03:03] <rbs-tito> cycom: Fantastic, I'll give it a go
[03:03] <rbs-tito> cycom: Only tried in Dapper
[03:03] <cycom> rbs-tito: this is on Feisty.
[03:03] <MoL1> xtknight: I have a PATA hard drive on my laptop, which is recognised as /dev/sda on feisty, hdparm says it's only running at udma2 mode, but is capable of udma5
[03:03] <rbs-tito> I'm off anyway. Got a final in three hours, best sleep!
[03:04] <cycom> rbs-tito: I'm VERY happy with feisty.  I'm using it on my laptop as well.  I'm configuring THIS particular machine (with the ralink card) as a print server.
[03:04] <knapp> I am having a problem getting the logout dialog to appear. When I click System > Logout, the desktop freezes. Only other way to get around it is to use the terminal.
[03:04] <xtknight> MoL1, ah yes, that's libata at work (proxy for converting PATA to sd*)...however it made mine udma5 by default which is odd.  and indeed libata does not support HDIO_SET_DMA yet :\
[03:04] <rbs-tito> cycom: Feisty is indeed amazing
[03:04] <rbs-tito> Bye!
[03:04] <cycom> rbs-tito: I plugged the HP printer I have which doesn't even have VISTA drivers into Feisty and it worked like a charm.
[03:04] <cycom> rbs-tito: later!
[03:04] <jake__> I installed the mac bar thing and now none of my GTK+ control themes work.
[03:04] <MoL1> xtknight: so is there a workaround, or just wait for the next kernel
[03:04] <jake__> Any ideas?
[03:04] <rbs-tito> cycom: HP rock, all their driver work beutifully. Seen the HP toolbox?
[03:05] <cycom> rbs-tito: no, not yet.
[03:05] <xtknight> MoL1, i saw a new kernel that may have the change in it...but for now i'm not sure how to adjust the DMA mode.
[03:05] <TTT_Travis> I am trying to create a command that will rm -R (Delete) all folders in a folder, but only if they are less than 1 MB
[03:05] <rbs-tito> cycom: It lets you check ink levels, change paper feeds, modify settings, set.
[03:05] <Pelo> jake__,  have you tried removing the mac bar ?
[03:05] <rbs-tito> Ok, see you
[03:05] <Gorgapor> Is there any way to have access to multiple keyboard layouts (U.S. / Dvorak in my case) from the gnome logon screen?
[03:05] <cycom> rbs-tito: Well, I was pissed because I couldn't get drivers for my laser printer under Windows Vista
[03:05] <xtknight> MoL1, that may be implying that it can not yet support udma5 on your controller
[03:05] <jrib> I have no sound with dvd playback in totem-gstreamer on amd64 feisty.  Video works fine and it plays sound on other files.  mplayer and xine play sound fine on the dvd.  What do I need to do to get totem-gstreamer to play the sound on a dvd?
[03:05] <lpanebr> Pelo: let me see..  system > admin
[03:05] <Gorgapor> TTT_Travis, a find command should do that, i would have to mess around to figure out exactly how
[03:05] <MoL1> xtknight: I did wonder that, but i'm pretty sure it worked as udma5 on edgy
[03:05] <Pelo> Gorgapor, there is a pannel app you can use to switch
[03:06] <xtknight> MoL1, oh..that's odd...what controller?  JMicron by any chance?
[03:06] <Gorgapor> Pelo, really? which one?
[03:06] <Pelo> lpanebr,  possibly in system > prefs
[03:06] <py_geek> ALL:: will feisty EVER be easy to install??? Will i EVER be able to install it on my laptop???
[03:06] <Gorgapor> Pelo, it's accessible from login?
[03:06] <lokken> Let's see how the upgrade to Feisty goes! :)
[03:06] <MoL1> xtknight: oh bugger, that's a tricky one - wait a sec
[03:06] <lokken> 37 minutes left on the downloads.
[03:06] <jake__> rbs-tito: Yea, I reinstalled GTK but it didn't help, before I reinstalled it was totally messed up to where nothing would open. I reinstalled and it everything is working but the controls theme.
[03:06] <xtknight> MoL1, lspci
[03:06] <TTT_Travis> Gorgapor yeah, I probably won't be able to figure it out, not good with this kind of stuff
[03:06] <bwang> Pelo: hey, I "think" (after trying to dpkg-reconfgure it so many times") that I must have entered the so called "bus-specfic format" wrong.  Cuz the message I got was the "no screens found" error
[03:06] <Pelo> Gorgapor,  I donT' think from the login but at least you can change when gnome has booted
[03:06] <lpanebr> Pelo: OW..  it seems to be doing it! :-)
[03:06] <rullie> uNR[Ron] talent, hi, i got both automatix and gstreamer, but totem will just exit itself. same with mplayer. Any idea?
[03:07] <TTT_Travis> Gorgapor unless I knew how to atleast get a list of files < 1mb
[03:07] <lpanebr> Pelo: it was right there: sys > adm
[03:07] <Pelo> bwang, that was the most I could offer,
[03:07] <bwang> Pelo: i'm not in recovery mode, should it make a difference if I dpkg-reconfigure it in recovery mode instead?
[03:07] <Pelo> lpanebr,  thanks , I'll try to remember,  next time I'll type menu > system > admin
[03:07] <lpanebr> Pelo: cool! THANKS! :-)   "needs computer restart" bbs
[03:08] <jake__> Pelo: Yea, I reinstalled GTK but it didn't help, before I reinstalled it was totally messed up to where nothing would open. I reinstalled and it everything is working but the controls theme.
[03:08] <jake__> rbs-tito: Sorry wring person :P
[03:08] <Pelo> bwang,  I sugested the recovery mode because  thought that you couldn't get X running
[03:08] <meezyfuh> hi, i am looking for a good peer2peer program. i tried the gtk-gnutella from add/remove programs but it said it was too ancient or something. what should i do?
[03:08] <py_geek> humph... i am SO stressed... Who was ACTUALLY able to install feisty?? What type of computer do you have? Processor?
[03:08] <BrendanM> Is there anyway to do a timed hibernate?
[03:08] <BrendanM> Like a sleep timer?
[03:08] <py_geek> chipset?
[03:09] <Crema10> MoL1: yeah i'm using latest beryl :(
[03:09] <py_geek> video card?
[03:09] <xtknight> py_geek, i was able to with a core 2 duo and intel ich8 chipset
[03:09] <BrendanM> I upgraded to feisty, it went fine. Old PIII with a crummy old ATI card.
[03:09] <rullie>  hi, i got both automatix and gstreamer, but totem will just exit itself. same with mplayer. Any idea?
[03:09] <xtknight> !automatix
[03:09] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:10] <dibblego> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[03:10] <rullie> xtknight, well.. my ubuntu just won't play video, automatix or not
[03:10] <xtknight> dibblego, aptitude just has some more features.  they both use the apt/dpkg backend
[03:10] <py_geek> ALL: well, I have a dell inspiron... seems like people in the forum with problems (repository, etc.) had this computer, too...
[03:10] <meezyfuh> py_geek i have a dell inspiron!! yay for dells
[03:10] <xtknight> rullie, ah hrmm.. does mplayer work?  maybe the selected video output mechanism is causing a problem.
[03:11] <Comrade-Sergei> rbs-tito i rebooted and disabled the onboard now it works, IDK why it just did, lets just cross out collective fingers and hope it doesnt randomy screw up again!
[03:11] <rullie> " hi, i got both automatix and gstreamer, but totem will just exit itself. same with mplayer. Any idea?"
[03:11] <BrendanM> Anyone? Sleep timer?
[03:11] <py_geek> meezyfuh: were u able to upgrade to feisty?
[03:11] <BrendanM> I want to suspend, not shutdown.
[03:11] <meezyfuh> i haven't yet, i'm still on edgy
[03:11] <DemisM> is there anyway to downgrade from feisty back to edgy?
[03:11] <xtknight> rullie, try mplayer with a different video output (see "mplayer -vo help")
[03:11] <meezyfuh> i keep trying to remember to let it d/l overnight, and i always remember during the day
[03:11] <Comrade-Sergei> thanks rbs-tito!
[03:11] <rullie> xtknight, such as? sdl or x11
[03:11] <Pelo> DemisM,  clean install
[03:12] <DemisM> sigh
[03:12] <xtknight> rullie, any other than the current being used.  perhaps GL?
[03:12] <lpanebr> Pelo: great! its working. at least it boot up normaly
[03:12] <py_geek> meezyfuh: do me a favor... get a feisty cd and see if you can install... i'll pm u my email...
[03:12] <mcatrage> BrendanM, go to screensaver then power management
[03:12] <Pelo> lpanebr,  congrats
[03:12] <IceWeaSeLL> #pardus
[03:12] <lpanebr> Pelo: do u use compiz? recommend?
[03:12] <meezyfuh> py_geek what kind of inspiron?  ihave a 8200
[03:12] <DemisM> Pelo: I can't go into recovery mode from previous kernel change my repo and dist-upgrade?
[03:12] <MoL3> xtknight: it's a 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller
[03:12] <Comrade-Sergei> lpanebr beryl pwns compix by far ( even though its based on it)
[03:12] <Pelo> lpanebr, I turn on the one built in occasionnaly , it's fun for about 15 minutes then it gets on my nevers
[03:13] <tucuna> BrendanM: maybe this is useful - http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/24/1716222
[03:13] <xtknight> MoL3, well if you do decide to file a bug i'd post that.  nothing crossed my mind with regards to the ICH4 though...i only know of a problem where jmicron controllers revert to a lower DMA mode for little/no reason
[03:13] <py_geek> mmeezyfuh: i have 1100... its my sisters old one...
[03:13] <TTT_Travis> ok next question, how can I search a folder (recursively) for all files with .avi and move them to a different folder
[03:13] <lpanebr> Pelo: built in? where?
[03:13] <py_geek> meezyfuh: 1100
[03:13] <Pelo> DemisM,  I dn't think it matters
[03:13] <spasticteapot> Anyone tried the Soundblaster USB? (Turns out I don't have the Live! version.)
[03:13] <Comrade-Sergei> lpanebr sudo apt-get compiz ?
[03:13] <MoL3> xtknight: libata on launchpad do you think?
[03:13] <Pelo> lpanebr,  menu > system > prefs > desktop effects
[03:13] <meezyfuh> i dunno. i only came here to try to get a good gnutella client
[03:14] <xtknight> MoL3, could be the kernel.  for now i wouldn't specify a package (triagers will later handle that)
[03:14] <py_geek> meezyfuh: get my pm? just email me whenever...
[03:14] <Comrade-Sergei> meezyfuh have you gotten frost/limewire to work in ubuntu?
[03:14] <meezyfuh> Comrade-Sergei: haven't tried. i tried gtk-gnutella on the add/remove programs and the network said it was too ancient
[03:15] <Pelo> lpanebr,  you can install  gnome-compiz-preference I think it is called for easier control
[03:15] <meezyfuh> py_geek: no didn't get a pm
[03:15] <Comrade-Sergei> meezyfuh what networks does it use?
[03:15] <meezyfuh> Comrade-Sergei: don't know
[03:15] <Dark_Limny> IceWeaSeLL: que ese canal de #pardus
[03:15] <petriborg> anyone have any sugestions for getting flash's sound working in firefox under feisty?
[03:15] <meezyfuh> already uninstalled it
[03:15] <DVS01> i am trying to decide whether i should make my girlfriend a windows or linux pc. she wont really need it for anything other than going online and browsing websites, and watching videos/movies.
[03:15] <DVS01> i figure if i install linux on her system, i won't have to deal with spyware and crap like that
[03:15] <eck> DVS01: do what she asks you to do
[03:15] <DVS01> especially since shes a total noob
[03:15] <DVS01> eck: she doesnt know
[03:16] <Comrade-Sergei> meezyfuh i got both limewire and frostwire up but the window stays white when it loads up
[03:16] <Pelo> petriborg,  try the forum, you're not the first to mention it
[03:16] <Dark_Limny> is There a girl in this channel????
[03:16] <Comrade-Sergei> OMG!!!
[03:16] <DVS01> haha
[03:16] <petriborg> i'm aware of that but mentioned solutions found https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/29760 here and else where don't seem to be working
[03:16] <lpanebr> Pelo: i think i need it. it gave the "the composite extension is not available" should i get it on synaptic?
[03:16] <py_geek> meezyfuh: hmm... just email me at dkong2002@aol.com if you decide to use feisty live cd... TTYL
[03:16] <py_geek> for spammers: go ahead, spam all u want- aol rulz!
[03:17] <Dark_Limny>  is There a girl in this channel????
[03:17] <spasticteapot> Not important.
[03:17] <Pelo> lpanebr,  that might be because of your ati driver, go and ask in #ubuntu-effects  , they'll be better equoped to help you,  I did,t have to do anythign sepcial so I don'T know
[03:17] <Comrade-Sergei> whad be my nick in leet? lol
[03:17] <Pelo> Dark_Limny, not for you there aren'T
[03:17] <DVS01> is there a goot decss solution for watching retail dvds? i would want something that automatically enables the descrambling, so it can just play from whatever media player i use
[03:18] <Pelo> compengi,  dont, you dare
[03:18] <lpanebr> Pelo: ok. thanks!
[03:18] <cyril_> hi,
[03:18] <Pelo> Comrade-Sergei,  donT you dare
[03:18] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: what???
[03:18] <Pelo> lp no prom
[03:18] <Comrade-Sergei> what?
[03:18] <LPMusicLJ> HI
[03:18] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: le'ts share no???
[03:18] <Pelo> Dark_Limny, no
[03:18] <LPMusicLJ> I'm trying to get my wireless card to work
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> DVS01: whats wrong with libdvdcss... it works on all media players i've tried.
[03:18] <Comrade-Sergei> Pelo whats the problem?
[03:18] <jake__> Anyone?
[03:18] <Pelo> Comrade-Sergei,  if you 1337 you're nick never expect me to help you everagain
[03:18] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: why???
[03:18] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: I'm Colombian...
[03:19] <cyril_> i have just installed xchat-gnome  but there is no user list, is this normal ? :)
[03:19] <Pelo> Dark_Limny, and I am not
[03:19] <DVS01> IndyGunFreak: i dont know, im not too familiar. if i have the lib installed, will it automatically be used by something like vlc player?
[03:19] <DrBix> Has anyone been successful at configuring networking in qemu?  I am close I think, but I think that NAT is not working between the guest OS and the host OS (i.e. Ubuntu).  From the guest OS (WIndows XP), I can ping the host OS (Ubuntu), but from Ubuntu, I cannot ping the Guest OS.  Also, from the guest OS, I cannot ping anything beyond the host OS's IP address.  Any suggestions?
[03:19] <lpanebr> Pelo: would u happen to know why isnt my sound working?
[03:19] <rullie> xtknight, hey i got this line: could not find matching colorspace
[03:19] <Comrade-Sergei> Pelo lol why, dont like gamers and hackers?
[03:19] <Pelo> cyril_,  it can be enable I think but most of us use xchat, instead
[03:19] <lpanebr> Pelo: it appears as it should be working but it doesent
[03:19] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: eso se llama Racismo...
[03:19] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: learn it
[03:19] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: RACISMO
[03:19] <Pelo> !sound > lpanebr  check your pm for instructions
[03:19] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: XD
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> DVS01: as far as I know, i have libdvdcss, and all of my players play DVD's.. I have Totem, Xine, and VLC, and they all play DVD's, but i generally use VLC, and its fine
[03:19] <Comrade-Sergei> easy
[03:20] <LPMusicLJ> I need help installing driver for my wireless card
[03:20] <xtknight> rullie, hmm i can't say i have any idea
[03:20] <xtknight> rullie, do you have video drivers installed?
[03:20] <Pelo> Comrade-Sergei,  I donT' like typing weird nicks
[03:20] <xtknight> like nvidia/fglrx or just the open source
[03:20] <Comrade-Sergei> oh
[03:20] <mon^rch> cyril_: try konversation ;)
[03:20] <Comrade-Sergei> Pelo i usually just c/p nicks anyways
[03:20] <Pelo> !wifi > LPMusicLJ  check your pm windows for instrucitns
[03:20] <rullie> xtknight, i have beryl here. So I think so
[03:20] <cyril_> ok :)
[03:20] <DVS01> IndyGunFreak: cool. i am definitely considering giving my gf linux. especially with her using p2p apps.. i wont have to worry about her downloading viruses. she will, but they will have no effect =] 
[03:20] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: men...
[03:20] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: come on...
[03:21] <xtknight> rullie, all types of videos fail?
[03:21] <eck> Comrade-Sergei: you should use tab completion, it's faster
[03:21] <Dark_Limny> Pelo: let's share...
[03:21] <cyril_> i was looking in the options :D
[03:21] <rullie> xtknight, yeah
[03:21] <Pelo> Comrade-Sergei,  welcome to the wonderfull world of nick complete,  just  type the first few letters and hit tab
[03:21] <Comrade-Sergei> eck you can do that in irc cool!
[03:21] <cyril_> konverstation is for kubuntu , i use ubuntu :)
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> DVS01: yea, thats definitely a plus, i use Frostwire, and its pretty good.
[03:21] <cyril_> thnaks
[03:21] <LPMusicLJ> thanks Pelo
[03:21] <DVS01> IndyGunFreak: which network is it for?
[03:21] <Dark_Limny> cyril_: but you can install it...
[03:21] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak what version do you run?
[03:21] <mon^rch> cyril_: you can install any kubuntu app on ubuntu ;)
[03:21] <Dark_Limny> cyril_: and it will be able to use
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: what version of what?.. Ubuntu or Frostwire?
[03:22] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, ubuntu ersion
[03:22] <cyril_> yeah with tons of deps :D
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> 7.04
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> DVS01: what do you mean which network.... Frostwire is basically Limewire, if that helps.
[03:22] <Dozzy> sjalalala
[03:22] <acmilan> anyone know how to get the desktop icon in xfce to have name as name of mount in fstab
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> i think its gnuetella, or something like that
[03:22] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, my frostwire wont run, did yours turn white at first?
[03:22] <DVS01> IndyGunFreak: yes, gnutella
[03:22] <mon^rch> cyril_: I use lots of kde apps... some of them are just plain better... :/
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: it works fine for me
[03:22] <lpanebr> Pelo: PM?
[03:22] <t1g3r> hello ubuntu ppl
[03:22] <vall-k> ji
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: did you install the one in the repos?
[03:23] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, hmm thats wierd what resolution do you run
[03:23] <mon^rch> cyril_: like konversation, for instance :p
[03:23] <mrdude> ok, ever since the feisty upgrade my system seems to be lagging big time, very slow
[03:23] <t1g3r> pelo, i burnt the cd with a slower speed and now it installed fine!
[03:23] <Pelo> lpanebr,  I donT' know anything about wifi stuff,  sorry, that'S why I gave you the link to get you started
[03:23] <Mendo> Im sure this is a common problem but im using a Nvidia GeForce 6600 and when i start the live cd the screen is stuck at 600x800 and I cant see the bottom of the installer.
[03:23] <t1g3r> i have basic ubuntu running, thank you for help!
[03:23] <mrdude> are there any changes that might have done this?
[03:23] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, no i got the website version, i couldnt find it in the repos
[03:23] <cyril_> i don't like kde look
[03:23] <cyril_> but i think to try kde4
[03:23] <Pelo> t1g3r, wonderfull,   always use low speed, high speed burners are a con
[03:24] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, what repo is it in?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: 1280x1024..... I'm using Frostwire 4.13.1.. Im pretty sure its a beta version.
[03:24] <eck> mrdude: i would just snoop around in /var/log and see if any of the logs indicate any degenerate behavior
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: not 100% sure.
[03:24] <markgreene> Hey guys - What is the EASIEST way to setup dual monitors on my Lenovo T60 with an ATI x1400. I do it in Windows and cannot find any frontend to help me with this
[03:24] <sgtmattbaker> what are your thoughts on the Dell-Ubuntu deal?  Will it fail? Will Linux get a noticeably bigger marketshare
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: did you try compiling it, or what, how did you install it?
[03:24] <mrdude> what ought i be looking for
[03:24] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, i run like 1153-868 or something maybe thats why
[03:25] <spasticteapot> sgtmattbaker :Dell sucks dookie.
[03:25] <Dark_Limny>  is There a girl in this channel????
[03:25] <Pelo> markgreene, I think there is a link for that in here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[03:25] <spasticteapot> I'd care more if the hardware was less awful.
[03:25] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, no i got the .deb off their website
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: i wouldn't think its a resolution problem.
[03:25] <eck> mrdude: it's hard to say, since you don't know what the problem could be. start with /var/log/messages
[03:25] <Comrade-Sergei> lol me compile lol?
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:25] <spasticteapot> Heh.
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> just asking
[03:25] <petriborg> if there is a girl in this chan dark_limmy they are an fbi agent now drop it :p
[03:25] <acmilan> more interesting is that michael dell uses ubuntu!
[03:25] <mon^rch> sgtmattbaker: what deal is that?
[03:25] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, um i thought it was a java thing but apparently its not
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: try running it in terminal, and see what errors pop up... open a terminal, type frostwire then hit enter, and see what errors come up as it tries to run
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: it might be
[03:26] <lpanebr> Pelo: ok, sorry. i didnt get the link
[03:26] <Dark_Limny> petriborg: wow...
[03:26] <T3hChixxo> Dark_Limny: Does it bloody well matter?
[03:26] <cyril_> my networkmanager can't connect to unsecure networks :(    i think that was fixed in previous ubuntu :/
[03:26] <Pelo> lpanebr,  it should have appeared in a pm window
[03:26] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, i got the same version as you
[03:26] <sgtmattbaker> Dell is selling pre-installed PCs w/ Ubuntu on them and making sure all the hardware is compatible and using only open-source drivers
[03:26] <Pelo> !wifi > lpanebr
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: i have no idea, it works fine for me
[03:26] <sanityx> !worksforme IndyGunFreak
[03:26] <SlickMcRunfast> How would I reinstall my dvdrom drive, I think Automatix messed it up
[03:27] <sanityx> !worksforme | IndyGunFreak
[03:27] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:27] <Dark_Limny> spasticteapot: something else
[03:27] <Mendo> Im sure this is a common problem but im using a Nvidia GeForce 6600 and when i start the live cd the screen is stuck at 600x800 and I cant see the bottom of the installer. Anyone?
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> sanityx: i'm well aware of that, all i was suggesting is i do't know what ihs problem with frostwire is.
[03:27] <rullie> hi, i got both automatix and gstreamer, but totem will just exit itself. same with mplayer. Any idea?
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> i wasmn't suggesting he do something stupid, like install automatix
[03:27] <markgreene> Anyone? Dual monitors? Easy way?
[03:27] <Pelo> SlickMcRunfast,  get rid of automatix
[03:27] <lpanebr> Pelo: oops.. sorry.  it did!  thank again
[03:27] <sanityx> I know, I just like using ! things on people :-D
[03:27] <SlickMcRunfast> Pelo: I did
[03:27] <Pelo> lpanebr, no prob
[03:27] <spasticteapot> !lart
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <mon^rch> Mendo: ctrl alt bkspace...
[03:27] <spasticteapot> What?
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> sanityx: fine, use it when its used wit merit....
[03:27] <spasticteapot> LART is gone?
[03:27] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18899/
[03:27] <SlickMcRunfast> It gets its grubby hands into all my file
[03:27] <spasticteapot> Oh. Duh.
[03:28] <mon^rch> and MAYBE it will get better
[03:28] <spasticteapot> @lart
[03:28] <ubotu> (lart [<channel>]  [<id>]  <who|what> [for <reason>] ) -- Uses the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool on <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific lart. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
[03:28] <sgtmattbaker> !GRUB
[03:28] <Pelo> SlickMcRunfast, check your fstab setup
[03:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:28] <jedi__> wie ist der find-befehl um rekursiv in unterverz. nach dateiinhalten zu suchen?
[03:28] <SlickMcRunfast> Pelo: It has junk from Automatix in it
[03:28] <SlickMcRunfast> Pelo: Not sure why
[03:28] <Sparta> hi everyone
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: that sure looks like a java error
[03:28] <sanityx> SlickMcRunfast, You shouldn't use automatix :(
[03:29] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, ill ask #java
[03:29] <Pelo> SlickMcRunfast,  look around the /etc/ folder for a backup version and restore it
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> Comrade-Sergei: can you receive PMs?
[03:29] <JoaoJoao> Fortunately Feisty did let me get rid of Automatix
[03:29] <pr0nGuy> Is there any reason i can't open the pdf links on this page?  I get the message: "Archive type not supported".  They're just PDFs, right?
[03:29] <Sparta> can someone help me with some weird ubuntu feisty problems I've been having?
[03:29] <Comrade-Sergei> IndyGunFreak, i can now
[03:29] <UnluckyMike> Comrade-Sergei: try running it in a terminal and see what the output is.
[03:30] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  might be case related,   pdf is not the same as PDF in linux
[03:30] <SlickMcRunfast> Pedo: How do I restore a backup
[03:30] <Comrade-Sergei> UnluckyMike, yea want me to paste in a pm?
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> UnluckyMike: see his pastebin above... he did.
[03:30] <SlickMcRunfast> Pedo: THere is one there
[03:30] <HiddenHax> Holy the Ubuntu Studio packages are insane!
[03:30] <Pelo> Sparta,  only if you tell us what it is
[03:30] <Fitzsimmons> where are all the C manpages?
[03:30] <jrib> Fitzsimmons: manpages-dev
[03:30] <Fitzsimmons> jrib: ty
[03:30] <Pelo> SlickMcRunfast,  the nick is peLo , not Pedo ,   slick just rename the back up file
[03:31] <SlickMcRunfast> sorry
[03:31] <Pelo> you should be
[03:31] <spasticteapot> Anyone here know how to work @lart?
[03:31] <rullie> hi, i got both automatix and gstreamer, but totem will just exit itself. same with mplayer. Any idea?
[03:31] <jedi__> how can i recursiv-search strings in files over folders ?
[03:31] <Toma-> spasticteapot: only works in -offtopic
[03:31] <SlickMcRunfast> PELO PELO PELO PELO
[03:32] <SlickMcRunfast> i'm teaching my fingers
[03:32] <Pelo> rullie,  get rid of automatix ,  reinstall totem, gstreamer and mplayer
[03:32] <SlickMcRunfast> to read
[03:32] <Sparta> I installed 7.04 a few days ago and I'm about ready to give up on it with all the problems I've been having. Foremost seems to be a graphics card issue it's been giving me. *SOMETIMES* when I start the computer, it boots up seemingly normally, but when it displays the nvidia logo and goes to the login screen, it only displays the upper-right part of the screen, its not a monitor problem because I've played with that, it seems to be mis-aligning 
[03:32] <XServer> hey how can i setup a ubuntu mirror?
[03:32] <Toma-> aalone-man: please dont private message
[03:32] <pr0nGuy> Pelo: it said pdf.  my bad.  I thought they were the same.
[03:33] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  in windows it would not matter,  but it linux is does
[03:33] <eck> XServer: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror
[03:33] <pr0nGuy> Pelo: what's the diff?
[03:33] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  you can still open the file by opening it from the app,
[03:33] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,   linux is case sensitive
[03:34] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  I'm not saying it's the problem but it is a possibility
[03:34] <pr0nGuy> Pelo: i understand the case sensitivity
[03:34] <eck> jedi__: grep -R
[03:34] <rogue780|laptop> Pelo, if it were a case issue it wouldn't say archive type not supported, it would say file not found
[03:34] <pr0nGuy> Pelo: but I should probably open the pdf reader and then open it from there?
[03:35] <Dark_Limny> cyril_: apt-cache search konversation
[03:35] <Dark_Limny> cyril_: it must be in your "repos"
[03:35] <robert__> i just installed ubuntu for the first time and when i type "su" from a Terminal it tells me my password is not valid
[03:35] <Dark_Limny> cyril_: show me the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <jrib> !root > robert__ (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:35] <piNNoy> how do i make my whole cube clear in beryl?
[03:35] <Pelo> rogue780|laptop, I think he strying to auto open a link
[03:36] <WesLappy> I'm playing with 7.04 and am having issues with my wireless driver.. It's running a D-link USB WAU-1340 (Rt2x00 driver) and it detects my router but says it doesn't support my encryption method. both my notebook (ipw3945) and desktop (madwifi) work on the live cd. I noticed wpa_supplicant isn't running (but was on my notebook and working desktop).. Any ideas as to why wpa_supplicant isn't running? I assume that's why the connection
[03:36] <WesLappy> can't be made
[03:36] <blaker> whats the best way to get beryl?
[03:36] <blaker> can i do it if i have xubuntu? or is ubuntu the best?
[03:36] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  that is my suggestion
[03:36] <piNNoy> is it possible to make my whole cube clear in beryl? while spinning
[03:37] <Toma-> piNNoy: Desktop > Desktop Cube > Transparency > Check it, then set them all to O
[03:37] <ignacio> hello
[03:37] <sid> How can I test my microphone headset quickly?
[03:37] <sid> what application
[03:37] <XServer> anyone knows who i must tal to to setup a mirror for ubuntu
[03:37] <piNNoy> toma: ty
[03:37] <Pelo> blaker,  I don'T knwo if you can run beryl in xubuntu try asking in #beryl
[03:37] <Toma-> piNNoy: ahh. while spinng, well you can figure out what the sliders to
[03:37] <UnluckyMike> WesLappy: my rt card can't be configured in network-manager I have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces to get wpa to work
[03:37] <XServer> anyone knows who i must talk to to setup a mirror for ubuntu
[03:37] <Pelo> XServer, check the how to get involved section in the ubuntu.com site
[03:37] <robert__> i need to know how to edit my 'vsftpd.conf' file
[03:37] <XServer> Thx
[03:38] <eck> robert__: open it up in any text editor whatsoever
[03:38] <robert__> it is readonly
[03:38] <Signedx> Is anyone available to help me with a Ubuntu install? Everytime I click on the Start and Install, it seems to load everything then I get a black screen and nothing else happens.
[03:38] <pr0nGuy> Pelo: I'm pretty new to Linux, so I don't know what app that would be.  I'm using Edgy (Gnome).  Could you direct me?
[03:38] <eck> robert__: you need to do it as root
[03:38] <XServer> nothing about mirrors there
[03:38] <robert__> how do i switch to root
[03:38] <XServer> can u provide a link?
[03:38] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  evince
[03:38] <Toma-> robert_: you dont
[03:38] <eck> robert__: invoke the editor with sudo (or gksu)
[03:38] <WesLappy> UnluckyMike: network-manager that little icon similar to windows in the status bar? I'll look at my /etc/network/interfaces file...
[03:38] <Toma-> !sudo > robert_
[03:38] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  if you donT, find it in the menus, just start it from the terminal
[03:39] <robert_> Toma-: god damnit, get the nick name right
[03:39] <Dark_Limny> Good luck from colombia
[03:39] <Toma-> robert_: haha sorry :S
[03:39] <robert__> like sudo gedit vsftpd.conf ???
[03:39] <robert_> you just sent a useless message to me :P
[03:39] <Toma-> !sudo > robert__
[03:39] <jedi__> eck: find type=f | grep -R string ????
[03:39] <UnluckyMike> WesLappy: the network manager applet on the panel do you see your network in it?
[03:39] <Toma-> robert_: yeh i understand :(
[03:39] <eck> jedi__: no, grep -R string directory
[03:40] <rullie> Pelo, did what you said, still doesn't work
[03:40] <jedi__> thanks eck
[03:40] <TTT_Travis>   how can I make the find -size -10M command work recursively? I have a folder that has a folder inside that is 300M, but it will still get shown because the main folder is <10M
[03:40] <robert__> ok, how do i edit this file with root priv's, vsftpd.conf
[03:40] <Pelo> rullie,  what did i say,  remind me , there are a lot of ppl here
[03:41] <pr0nGuy> Pelo: i just opened evince and double-clicked on the desktop icon of those files.  It worked.
[03:41] <WesLappy> UnluckyMike: yes but when I select it it says something to the effect of cannont connect because encryption method not supported..
[03:41] <Toma-> robert__: "gksudo gedit /path/to/the/file"
[03:41] <robert__> thanks Toma
[03:41] <rullie> Pelo, get rid of automatix, reinstall mplayer totem and gstreamer
[03:41] <Pelo> pr0nGuy,  great
[03:41] <UnluckyMike> ok then you will have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[03:41] <Pelo> rullie,  right , which distro ?
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> rullie: lol, thats kind of extreme
[03:41] <Toma-> robert__: also, id suggest reading some guides and docs on setting up vsftpd, its not that simple
[03:41] <rullie> Pelo, ubuntu? 7. something
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:42] <pr0nGuy> Pelo: thanks for your help.  I heard of evince, but I didn't think i had it by default.
[03:42] <damejiar> ubuntu
[03:42] <Pelo> rullie,  do the player just open and not play or open and shut down ?
[03:42] <matthew_> Hello
[03:43] <rullie> Pelo, that's precisely what they do. I tried to mplayer from console and it said something like cannot find colormap or something, iirc
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> rullie: thats precisely what they do?.. he gave you two options.
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> so which is it.
[03:43] <Pelo> rullie, uinstall totem, uinisntall mplayer,   in the home folder   delete   .totem  and .mplayer reboot and reisntall
[03:43] <rullie> Pelo, cannot find colorspace
[03:44] <rullie> Pelo, all i have in .mplayer/config is vo="sdl"
[03:44] <Pelo> rullie,  I've never heard that one
[03:44] <mon^rch> hwere do I add samba users?
[03:44] <Pelo> rullie,  I am not a specialist in those progs,  I'm just giving you general trouble shooting advice here
[03:45] <EADG_> How do I move a file thats named like so... -=file.name=-  I keep getting an error mv -- = invalid option. Quotes on the file don't help.
[03:45] <oriez> !VLC
[03:45] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:46] <mon^rch> how do I add samba users?
[03:48] <bimberi> mon^rch: 'sudo smbpasswd -a <username>'
[03:48] <Eleaf> hi, my server is freezing at "Starting kernel server" every time I boot now, I can't get into a shell;  what do you think is wrong?
[03:48] <Eleaf> This happened after a recent restart
[03:49] <Pelo> mon^rch,  try asking in #samba you'll have more samba users there to help you
[03:49] <Eleaf> It enters run level 2, starts system log and wacom stuff, then starts kernel log and it stops there..
[03:49] <Eleaf> it is unresponsive on the network except for ping.
[03:49] <bimberi> woohoo I'm invisible :)
[03:49] <bruenig> EADG_, you need to cancel out the offending characters, so do mv \-\=file.name\=\- or ou can always use quotes
[03:49] <bruenig> you*
[03:49] <daaku> hi all
[03:50] <daaku> anyone know of a pager that supports colors?
[03:50] <Bl00d|N1Nja> i think its called a cell phone
[03:50] <EADG_> Thanks bruenig.
[03:50] <Eleaf> heelpp
[03:50] <vbabiy> hey guys is there any way to have CIFS share be mount only after you get in to gnome
[03:50] <Eleaf> What should I do to fix my server?
[03:50] <vbabiy> or when you need them
[03:50] <Eleaf> it just wont boot anymore past starting kernel log
[03:50] <james296> why does the gnome menu editor appear very buggy in feisty fawn? Im havin so many problems, like moving one app in a different area of the gnome editor
[03:51] <Eleaf> I did install logtail or something
[03:51] <james296> like I do it but nothing happens
[03:52] <daaku> nm, didnt realize less supported raw characters!
[03:52] <lounge>  8-)
[03:53] <Pelo> Eleaf,  yo are not being ignored,  you are being pitied in silence
[03:53] <Boohbah> oh i am going to boot my ubuntu vmware
[03:54] <aoliax> hello, is there a way to set a specific image as a screensaver?
[03:54] <Pelo> aoliax,  f-spot
[03:54] <aoliax> thanks pelo, let me try
[03:54] <py_geek> I have figured out the problem to why some people cant upgrade to 7.4!
[03:55] <bruenig> py_geek, because that version doesn't exist?
[03:55] <Jordan_U> I am having a problem installing vmware-server from the Ubuntu-commercial repository, it complains that I don't have a eth1 and the install fails
[03:55] <py_geek> sorry, 7.04!
[03:55] <Pelo> bruenig,  1 py_geek 0
[03:55] <py_geek> =P
[03:55] <py_geek> so??
[03:56] <bruenig> py_geek, get a how to on the forums if you think you've got something helpful to the community
[03:56] <Jordan_U> py_geek, Because they use poorly maintained 3rd party repos?
[03:56] <Pelo> py_geek,  cause it's a crappy upgrader
[03:56] <bruenig> oh are we supposed to guess, I wasn't aware
[03:56] <aoliax> pelo, i must have misunderstood, it does not seem to work
[03:56] <vanberge> anyone ever try the program "wallpaper-tray" ?
[03:56] <aoliax> i am trying to set a jpg as a screensaver pelo
[03:56] <frank_b> what's the best anti-virus program to use in linux? none? this one? -> http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux.htm
[03:57] <py_geek> Okay, i cant upgrade bcuz my laptop is a piece of crap! or, as pelo said, the upgrader is a piece of crap! i personally think it's the first one... I have a 5-year-old built-for-windows dell inspiron 1100 with a 30gb hard drive! (same as my iPod...)
[03:57] <Pelo> aoliax,  f-stop allows you to use your images as screensaver, open it from the menues to set your image library
[03:57] <bruenig> vanberge, you should write a script to move files around every so often
[03:57] <nomin> frank_b: you don't need antivirus on linux unless you want to scan files moving through a server.
[03:57] <py_geek> 30 gig people!
[03:58] <vanberge> bruenig,  i don't really want to do that... im sure it'd be easy enough with esetroot, etc.
[03:58] <frank_b> nomin, oh. ok. thanks
[03:58] <bruenig> vanberge, so set the wallpaper to be wallpaper.png and then just have the script mv another png to that name and move the other one out of that name, I wonder if that would work
[03:58] <py_geek> ubuntu takes up 1/15 of my hd!
[03:58] <Pelo> py_geek,  make your /home folder to a seperate partition and you'll never have to bother with upgrades again, you can just clean install
[03:58] <vanberge> bruenig,  i bet it would...
[03:58] <Signedx> Ok I just tried installing Ubuntu Feisty by removing the 'quiet splash' and adding 'noapic', but it still just loads to a black screen and no further loading is done.
[03:59] <aoliax> ah thanks very much pelo
[03:59] <piNNoy> my desktop is clear so are my icons is there anyway to keep my desktop clear but making my icons brighter?
[03:59] <wobx> re
[03:59] <Boohbah> Signedx: what hardware?
[03:59] <vanberge> piNNoy,  maybe try a diff. icon thme that is higher contrast?
[03:59] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[03:59] <dkbg> is there a command which outputs the name of the linux distro and its codename/version number?
[03:59] <piNNoy> van: i have to dl a icon theme?
[03:59] <py_geek> is there a difference between ubuntu 6.06 LTS and 6.10 ? (well, obviously there has to be SOMETHING...)
[04:00] <wastrel> dkbg:  cat /etc/issue
[04:00] <dkbg> wastrel: thanks
[04:00] <shawn34> having issues compiling something, can anyone help?
[04:00] <shawn34> checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found
[04:00] <shawn34> configure: error: Building python bindings requested, but can't build them
[04:01] <Pelo> py_geek, you can check the release notes in www.ubuntu.com
[04:01] <lips> whats the best faq on how to split my hard drive into 2 partions ... that i can trust
[04:01] <bruenig> py_geek, package updates and I think the big thing, iirc, was they were staring there upstart init thing
[04:01] <skyhook> hey just a quick question are drivers different in genreal for 64bit or the same?
[04:01] <bruenig> their*
[04:01] <gadren> py-geek: here's a link to 6.10's press release: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/610released
[04:01] <Signedx> Boohbah: PM
[04:01] <gadren> out of curiosity, why not use 7.04?
[04:01] <Pelo> lips,   gparted works well,  back up non the less , what ever tool you use
[04:01] <py_geek> staring ?
[04:01] <lips> alright cool thanks
[04:02] <py_geek> Pelo- thats one for me!
[04:02] <bruenig> shawn34, do apt-cache search python | grep dev
[04:02] <Boohbah> Signedx: keep it in channel so others can help
[04:02] <Signedx> Athlon 3800+ 64bit, 1gb Ram, Radeon x1600 video card
[04:02] <Signedx> I was trying to install the 64bit version of Feisty through bootable CD
[04:02] <Pelo> py_geek, what ?
[04:02] <py_geek> Pelo- nm...
[04:03] <shawn34> bruenig, python-gnome2-dev? there was alot in the list
[04:03] <RedACE_> I booted ubuntu off cd because I need to rename a file in my window directory. When I try to mv it it says the system is read-only. Can I get around this?
[04:03] <bruenig> shawn34, I don't know precisely what your application wants but it is one of those, see if there is any documentation, perhaps an INSTALL or README and go from there
[04:04] <RickJames> hi, all at once my sound stopped working, i ubuntu detects my sound chip, is there a setting somewhere or a conf that i can check to see if something has changed the settings? yes i chekced the system sound slider, and it's set to full.
[04:04] <Pelo> RedACE_,  by installing nfts-3g or fuse but I'm not sure you'll be able to do that from the live cd
[04:04] <Pelo> !ntfs
[04:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:04] <hurt> RedACE_ : what way pelo said, i dont think u can do it on a live cd
[04:04] <RedACE_> !ntfs-3g
[04:04] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:05] <RedACE_> !fuse
[04:05] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:05] <hurt> RedACE_ i have it done on my regular install works fine
[04:05] <hurt> RedACE_ : why do you need to write to it?
[04:05] <RedACE_> I don't have a regular install :/
[04:05] <RedACE_> I need to rename a file
[04:05] <hurt> RedACE_ : the livecd is the install.
[04:05] <Pelo> RedACE_, just boot up windows
[04:06] <RedACE_> windows won't boot
[04:06] <hurt> true.
[04:06] <hurt> why?
[04:06] <RedACE_> C:/windows/system32/shell32.dll is missing
[04:06] <hurt> reinstall windows?
[04:06] <Pelo> afk
[04:06] <RickJames> !sound
[04:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:06] <chump> RedACE_: why don't you do a repair ?
[04:06] <vbabiy> hey guye is there any one who can help me with CIFS and wireless
[04:07] <shawn34> bruenig, installed python-all-dev and that worked, thanks
[04:07] <bruenig> shawn34, good
[04:07] <hurt> RedACE_ can u boot to dos?
[04:08] <RedACE_> guess I could use a dos boot cd
[04:08] <Ben_Lang> Hey would anyone mind giving me a quick bit of help installing Ubuntu?
[04:08] <vbabiy> hey guys is there any way to set up CIFS mounts to only mount when they are first requested
[04:09] <hurt> if u can boot in dos that would be good
[04:09] <Benz145> I just want to know if I can install Ubuntu to an external HDD and boot from it to try it out
[04:09] <cables> Benz145, that's what the LiveCD is for
[04:10] <hurt> sup cables
[04:10] <cables> hurt, hey
[04:10] <hurt> livecds are great
[04:10] <vbabiy> hey cables can you give me a had with CIFS
[04:10] <Benz145> yes but I'm in a unique situation, I'm using a UMPC so I don't have a CD drive
[04:10] <Benz145> though I have the ubuntu ISO
[04:10] <hurt> usb stick ben?
[04:10] <cables> vbabiy, why would I be able to more than others?
[04:10] <Benz145> I figured I could load it up with daemon tools and simply tell it to install to the external HDD
[04:10] <vbabiy> well you seem to know Ubuntu very well.
[04:10] <cables> Benz145, nope.
[04:11] <cables> Benz145, it needs to be booted
[04:11] <hurt> cables , what about vmware?
[04:11] <cables> Benz145, get the free virtualization program VirtualBox, which will let you create a virtual machine to install it in
[04:11] <hurt> :P
[04:11] <cables> hurt, lol, I just suggested that
[04:11] <Benz145> hmm well if I just put the ISO right on the external HDD and tell it to boot from that will it understand that an ISO is something to boot from?
[04:11] <cables> Benz145, no.
[04:11] <cables> Benz145, read what I wrote above.
[04:11] <hurt> if ur bios lets u boot from the external
[04:11] <hurt> which i doubt it will
[04:12] <cables> hurt, it won't recognize an ISO on the external
[04:12] <cables> Benz145, umpc? how much RAM does it have?
[04:12] <Benz145> 512mb
[04:12] <cables> Benz145, that's ok for VirtualBox
[04:12] <cables> Benz145, http://www.virtualbox.org/
[04:12] <hurt> Benz145 u dont have a flash drive?
[04:12] <cables> Benz145, you can install Ubuntu in that, and test it that way.
[04:12] <cables> Benz145, it won't tell you anything about driver support though
[04:13] <Benz145> heh actually I just lent my 1gig to a friend today, I'll have it back tomorrow and probably try it then
[04:13] <hurt> Benz145 why dont you get a external cdrom?
[04:13] <hurt> or something
[04:13] <mikeyuf> I just installed Fiesty on my Toshiba Satellite Pro laptop.  I tried going to System >> Preferences >> Desktop Effects and enable it.  It seemed to ask to use my video card which is GeForce4 Go 420.  I rebooted and all I saw was black screen..  I could hear everything, but nothing on screen, any ideas?
[04:13] <Benz145> just don't feel like running out and buying one, I'm testing Ubuntu out more for curiosity rather then need, so I
[04:14] <wobx> damn i should upgrade to feisty
[04:14] <Benz145> I'm not about to go buy something just to install it*
[04:14] <Benz145> but even when I get the 1gig stick back, what do I do to make the computer realize there is something on there to boot from?
[04:14] <hurt> mikeyuf , seems like you either have a driver issue, or need to config xorg
[04:14] <Boohbah> Benz145: why don't you just run it in vmware from your hd?
[04:14] <Optimus> G'day
[04:15] <hikyuu_> YEAH! dragonforce discography :3
[04:15] <hikyuu_> hehe
[04:15] <hurt> id do vmware
[04:15] <Optimus> dragonforce is definitely the worst thing ever
[04:15] <Benz145> I want to tesk ubuntu natively and not emulated so I know how the performance is
[04:15] <hurt> !dragonforce
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dragonforce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <mon^rch> !hi | Optimus
[04:15] <fernando> Fernando
[04:15] <hikyuu_> Optimus: only if you hate music
[04:15] <Optimus> hello
[04:15] <Benz145> the 1 gig mem stick will let me do what I need right?
[04:15] <Optimus> lol I was jk
[04:15] <fernando> hi
[04:15] <hikyuu_> Optimus: lol :P
[04:15] <fernando> :?
[04:15] <duelboot> Benz145, it should
[04:16] <Benz145> what exactly do I do with ubuntu to get it on there in a format that the computer will understand that it can boot from?
[04:16] <cables> Benz145, it'll be just as fast as windows
[04:16] <cables> Benz145, and a LiveCD or LiveUSB isn't exactly a good way to test the speed out
[04:16] <hikyuu_> ive been downloading metal all week XD Agent Steel, Saxon, Diamond Head, Exodus, Overkills next
[04:16] <Benz145> good point
[04:16] <cables> Benz145, it's compressed, and is slower than the installed version
[04:17] <hurt> Benz145 if u want to know how to get ur shell32 i can find out
[04:17] <cables> Benz145, emulated is probably faster than the livecd
[04:17] <Benz145> I see
[04:17] <duelboot> Benz145, read this:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610
[04:17] <cables> Benz145, still, both will be slow.
[04:17] <hikyuu_> -nods- VMware is a good wat tho
[04:17] <hurt> vmware is good if u got a lot of ram
[04:17] <hurt> like 2gigs like me
[04:17] <MSTK> just a quick question.  I know how to extract .tar.gz programs and create the symbolic links at whatnot.  But which folder am I recommended to extract the tarball too?
[04:17] <hikyuu_> Benz145: thats how i tested Ubuntu
[04:17] <cables> hurt, I've got 512 and VirtualBox runs ubuntu fine
[04:17] <Benz145> I'll probably go burn a live CD and test it out on my desktop to get a feel for the interface, as for speed maybe I'll try VMware, how long would it need to set up?
[04:17] <freeza> why not just download a vmware image of ubuntu to test it out?
[04:17] <cables> hurt, slowly, but fast enough to test things
[04:18] <cables> Benz145, there's no need to test the speed
[04:18] <RedACE_> I've installed ntfs-3g. when I run it the option to enable for internal drives is greyed out...
[04:18] <hikyuu_> Benz145: id say about 10 minutes, but shouldnt take any longer than windows
[04:18] <cables> Benz145, it's pretty much the same as Windows.
[04:18] <Benz145> wait, I don't understand why I can't use an external HDD the same way I would use a flash drive
[04:18] <hurt> cables, well im talking about booting many os's in vmware simulating networking and traffic between them :P
[04:18] <cables> Benz145, you can, but you can't just stick the ISO on it and expect that to boot
[04:18] <cables> hurt, oh, lol
[04:19] <Benz145> yes, I'm asking how I get ubuntu on there in a format that the computer understands as a boot option
[04:19] <hikyuu_> Benz145 then afterwards try to install Beryl! :3
[04:19] <hurt> Benz145 do u want to fix ur windows?
[04:19] <bruenig> MSTK, what are you talking about
[04:19] <cables> Benz145, the advantage of a LiveCD or LiveUSB is that you can test your hardware compatibility
[04:19] <hikyuu_> -nods-
[04:19] <cables> hikyuu_, he's using a UMPC, he's not gonna be able to run beryl
[04:19] <hikyuu_> ewww
[04:19] <hikyuu_> er
[04:19] <hikyuu_> i mean, i see
[04:19] <hurt> nevermind u cant u dont have xp boot cd
[04:19] <Benz145> ya I've seen a bit about beryl, looks interesting ; D
[04:19] <hurt> forgot
[04:19] <hikyuu_> >.>
[04:19] <hurt> beryl is nice.
[04:19] <hikyuu_> yush tis
[04:19] <cables> Benz145, it's amazing... but your UMPC won't run it :(
[04:20] <hikyuu_> im running it now
[04:20] <ant-> flux owns
[04:20] <freeza> whats the graphics card of the umpc?
[04:20] <Benz145> what did you mean about "fix windows"
[04:20] <hikyuu_> fairly impressed
[04:20] <hurt> who needed to fix windows in here
[04:20] <Benz145> thats alright, the new UX's would most likely with no problem
[04:20] <hurt> with the shell32
[04:20] <BetaCookies> Meh
[04:20] <hurt> grrr
[04:20] <Benz145> sorry not me hurt : )
[04:20] <hurt> lol
[04:20] <BetaCookies> I hate the slow speeds from the update manager
[04:20] <hikyuu_> lol
[04:20] <mon^rch> compiz is better than beryl
[04:20] <duelboot> Benz145, is your external HDD USB?
[04:20] <hurt> beta u need to fix windows?
[04:20] <cables> BetaCookies, find a faster mirror
[04:20] <Benz145> yes its usb
[04:20] <cables> mon^rch, uh, no...
[04:20] <freeza> compiz is way better
[04:21] <cables> from a stability standpoint, yes
[04:21] <BetaCookies> cables, do you know where I can find a list?
[04:21] <hikyuu_> mon^rch: theyre about the same thing...
[04:21] <MSTK> bruenig - I'm installing Thunderbird 2.0 (which isn't in the repos).  It downloads a .tar.gz with an executable inside it.  It's my understanding that I should extract the folder and create a symbolic link to the executable inside a /bin folder, right?  Or maybe that's the wrong way...
[04:21] <Benz145> http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGNUX390N&Dept=computers&CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_UX_Series
[04:21] <mon^rch> cables: uh, yes
[04:21] <cables> but it's still in the dark ages when it comes to configurability
[04:21] <duelboot> shouldn't Benz145 just be able to update his settings to boot from USB and voila, ubuntu boots?
[04:21] <Benz145> long link, thats the newst model of the UMPC i'm using
[04:21] <MSTK> in any case, I was wondering where I should extract the .tar
[04:21] <BetaCookies> I never actually understood the difference between compiz and beryl
[04:21] <duelboot> Benz145, you just need to install on it first
[04:21] <cables> BetaCookies, System>Administration>Software Sources
[04:21] <vbabiy> Hey guys is there any good way to get this to work, I have a wireless laptop and i need it to mount CIFS share but if i leave them in the /etc/fstab it get errors booting and very slow boot
[04:21] <cables> BetaCookies, Beryl was a forked version of Compiz that was more cutting-edge but less stable
[04:21] <freeza> compiz runs smoother than beryl all day on my crappy intel 945gm graphics
[04:21] <Benz145> lol ok thats what I originally asked, I wanted to know if I could install to the external HDD
[04:21] <bruenig> MSTK, oh ok, see I was wondering if it was precompiled and it apparently is. So you are going to want to extract it into /opt, so "sudo tar xf thunderbirdwhatever.tar.gz -C /opt"
[04:21] <hikyuu_> i dont mind, its really not that unstable
[04:22] <hurt> ive been having problems with beryl today, been fooling around with themes, and when i check add/remove software ubuntu freezes when checking, quite annoying really gotta reboot
[04:22] <hikyuu_> then again i have a superbeast
[04:22] <hikyuu_> lol
[04:22] <chump> wont he need to boot the cd first to start install ?
[04:22] <MSTK> bruenig - I know how to operate the terminal, I'm just wondering where the standard for extracting is.  thanks :)
[04:22] <trpr> freeza: maybe i will try it out. i have the same card and was surprised i could do any sort of 3d desktop at all
[04:22] <hikyuu_> the Skydome loses the wallpaper now and then
[04:22] <mon^rch> yep, yep compiz is way smoother and the destop cub animation is way better
[04:22] <Benz145> heh ya chump, thats the perodox here : P
[04:22] <trpr> freeza: using berl now with what i would call "ok" performance
[04:22] <bruenig> MSTK, sorry, this is #ubuntu so yeah, hopefully you can understand...
[04:22] <hurt> u can install compiz and beryl right?
[04:22] <cables> mon^rch, i don't find that, but that's just my system.
[04:22] <cables> hurt, yeah
[04:22] <hurt> might go try it...
[04:23] <chump> unless you can do an install via vmware .. ? hmm :s
[04:23] <cables> chump, he's going to use a usb drive instead of a cd
[04:23] <freeza> compiz and aiglx on intel 915 is very fast
[04:23] <oriez> !mv2 player
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv2 player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <freeza> you wil think that the thing was designed for the card
[04:23] <mon^rch> cables: I have a nice system... so I'm sure it's not performance :p
[04:23] <mneptok> MSTK: what you're doing is highly discouraged, if you care.
[04:24] <MSTK> mneptok - what is?
[04:24] <hurt> !compiz
[04:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:24] <mneptok> MSTK: installing stuff not in the repos
[04:24] <cables> mon^rch, Beryl has bad refresh rate detection, once you disable that I find it's just as smooth as compiz.
[04:24] <Benz145> so..not to be rude, but no one has answered my first question, is there any way to install Ubuntu using the ISO mounted virtually with Daemon tools and install it on another partition/drive?
[04:24] <cables> Benz145, no
[04:24] <cables> Benz145, it needs to be booted
[04:24] <Benz145> doh x_x
[04:25] <cables> Benz145, there's a project called Install.exe that is going to create an exe installer for ubuntu, for windows users
[04:25] <MSTK> menptok - I was wary, too.  But when downloading Thunderbird via Mozilla website, they offer the 2.0 download.
[04:25] <oriez> what is good movie player for subtitles
[04:25] <cables> Benz145, but that's nowhere near ready.
[04:25] <wastrel> what's highly discouraged?
[04:25] <Benz145> can I boot and install on my desktop then boot from the external drive with my UMPC? or will it install special things for the hardware on the desktop
[04:25] <hikyuu_> oriez VLC
[04:25] <bruenig> Benz145, if you are really awesome, you could conceivably crack the iso open and extract all the stuff in the right places in a new partition, would be hard though
[04:25] <mon^rch> cables: the biggest sway from beryl; foe me was the desktop cube... it's barely a flicker... and it's like the animation in compiz's desktop cube has more frames or something :/
[04:25] <hurt> isn't compiz already installed by default?
[04:25] <cables> mon^rch, weird
[04:25] <cables> hurt, yeah
[04:25] <Benz145> guess I'm not really awesome bruenig : /
[04:26] <cables> hurt, beryl is easy to install though
[04:26] <hurt> i already have both
[04:26] <hurt> lol
[04:26] <bruenig> oh wait, that wouldn't work
[04:26] <bruenig> unless you had linux installed on another partition
[04:26] <oriez> VLC good but i get problem with subtitles into it
[04:26] <cables> mon^rch, lol, i just switched to compiz... it's way slower. weird.
[04:26] <hikyuu_> oriez O.o..
[04:26] <hikyuu_> oriez, hmm, i couldnt tell you after that..
[04:26] <freeza> cables: what card do you have?
[04:26] <MSTK> Is beryl supposed to be dificult to install?  because all I did was run
[04:26] <MSTK> sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes
[04:27] <Pelo> Machtyn, there are no stupid question,  I wish I would say the same for the answers
[04:27] <cables> freeza, nVidia Go5200 (crappy card)
[04:27] <hurt> berly has more options, compiz doesnt
[04:27] <oriez> hikyuu_ o.O
[04:27] <Benz145> can i get a link to the virrtual machine software again?
[04:27] <hikyuu_> MSTK: hold on, i have a guide somewere
[04:27] <Machtyn> Pelo: nice.
[04:27] <freeza> you running xgl or aiglx?
[04:27] <cables> Benz145, http://www.virtualbox.org/
[04:27] <tehxed> Anyone have an issue with Ubuntu 7.04 where the sound doesn't work, but it has before?
[04:27] <MSTK> hikyuu_ - I already installed it, and it works fine
[04:27] <MSTK> it was just that it was a bit too easy
[04:27] <Benz145> ty, and what exactly am I going to do with that?
[04:27] <hikyuu_> ah, ok
[04:27] <vbabiy> can any one give me a hand
[04:27] <cables> freeza, AIGLX for Beryl, I don't know what for compiz
[04:27] <MSTK> I remember installing it on Edgy and it took me forever.
[04:27] <MSTK> yet here I installed it with one command.  it's almost as if I skipped a step or something.
[04:27] <hikyuu_> MSTK: after the drivers n stuff yeah, Beryl is hella easy
[04:28] <cables> Benz145, it's just if you want to test out the OS
[04:28] <Benz145> thats what I'm looking to do
[04:28] <cables> hikyuu_, and the drivers are easy to install too, with Feisty.
[04:28] <Pelo> tehxed,  right click the sound icon the top pannel ,  properties make sure nothing is muted
[04:28] <Benz145> I have the ubuntu iso, what do I do with it an VM
[04:28] <hurt> fiesty easy to install stuff
[04:28] <hikyuu_> cables: yup, thats what i got :3
[04:28] <hurt> fedora=crap
[04:28] <Machtyn> I installed Feisty Fawn, all hardware was recognized, except the modem :(  So I switched it out, and Fesity picked up the new one quickly: Conexant 56k HSF.  Unfortunately, I can't get the blasted thing to dial out.
[04:29] <Machtyn> I tried to cd /dev/modem. but it doesn't exist.  Any ideas how to get the thing working?
[04:29] <freeza> if you want to run it on vmware just goto wmware.com and download an image
[04:29] <aum> Machtyn, you got the file permissions right?
[04:29] <Benz145> ubuntu will be a pain on my umpc because of all the proprietary hardware x_x
[04:29] <cables> Benz145, yeah probably
[04:29] <Benz145> I have the ubuntu image, right now I'm just dling the VM software
[04:29] <freeza> Benz145: what model umpc is it?
[04:29] <Machtyn> aum: which files?
[04:29] <Benz145> Sony UX180p
[04:29] <Pelo> machkonti_,   /dev/ttyS1 or a different number
[04:29] <chump> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[04:29] <Benz145> oldest US model unfortunately : P
[04:29] <freeza> Benz145: you have the iso, im talking about a premade vmware image
[04:29] <aum> Machtyn, check that you're in the 'dialout' group, for starters
[04:30] <hikyuu_> anyone try running games in linux?
[04:30] <tehxed> Pelo: Nothing is muted
[04:30] <Benz145> so I can't boot with a virtual CD in windows using the software
[04:30] <Benz145> lol
[04:30] <aum> Markeda, do: grep dislout /etc/group
[04:30] <hikyuu_> im running Cedega 6, and id like to get some tips
[04:30] <chump> hikyuu_: i've playe America's army
[04:30] <aum> dialout, i mean
[04:30] <Machtyn> aum:  ah, ok.  thx.  Pelo: I think I've tried that, I'll give it another go
[04:30] <Pelo> Benz145,  check the device manager in menu> system > prefs to know what your modem is identtyed as
[04:30] <aum> Machtyn, add yourself to the dialout group if you're not already in it, and try again
[04:30] <freeza> Benz145: yes, but why do that when you can download a premade vmware image and not deal with installing
[04:31] <freeza> if you just want to test it out
[04:31] <hikyuu_> chump: im just wondering if theres a good tutorial page or something, cause bf2142 isnt working with Cedega 6
[04:31] <Pelo> !sound > tehxed    review the info in the instrucions I send to your pm windows
[04:31] <hikyuu_> chump: and its supposed to
[04:31] <vbabiy> hey guys is there any unzip tools that can use smb shares
[04:31] <Hamm_desktop> I've been troubleshooting a 02:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI  for hourss...... (linksys wmp54g pci wireless adapter)  I have ndiswrapper installed.....and I got the drivers from RAlink.......can anyone help me get this working?
[04:31] <Machtyn> supposeing there is no dialout group?
[04:31] <Benz145> If I have a vritual drive through daemon tools, then I can mount the iso and make VM think that I have the cd in the drive
[04:31] <chump> hikyuu_: isn't there a support forum on cedega website?
[04:32] <Benz145> wow wtf, I didn't know that when I installed VMware it would start installing all my drivers over x_x
[04:32] <hikyuu_> chump: heh.. i guess i didnt think to look there... ^^;
[04:32] <chump> hikyuu_: #cedega
[04:32] <hikyuu_> chump: im used to finding a magic clue in IRC or google :P
[04:32] <freeza> Hamm_desktop: why not download the drivers directly from the linksys website?
[04:33] <Hamm_desktop> they don't work already tried
[04:33] <limaunion> hi, does anyone know why my Feisty system doesn't have the following files: /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny /etc/inittab ??
[04:33] <freeza> Hamm_desktop: is your ndiswrapper properly installed?
[04:33] <chump> hikyuu_: i guess you can get good clue on the cedega channel :P
[04:33] <Hamm_desktop> ndiswrapper website says the drivers from RAlink work fine but I cannot figure out how to install them
[04:33] <Hamm_desktop> yes
[04:33] <UnluckyMike> Hamm_desktop: are you in fiesty
[04:33] <Hamm_desktop> yes
[04:33] <Pelo> Benz145, seriously man, I think you'll have a better experience with just the live cd , you're setting yourself up to be disapointed with the VM stuff
[04:33] <hikyuu_> chump: on this server?
[04:33] <Machtyn> looking at my "User Privileges" I have a check next to "Use Modems"
[04:33] <UnluckyMike> the drivers are already installed in feisty
[04:33] <Benz145> well I have to restart then I'm gonna uninsall VMware and look for the already made Ubuntu version of it
[04:33] <chump> hikyuu_: #cedega yeah
[04:33] <Machtyn> I added a check to the faxes group
[04:33] <Hamm_desktop> hmm
[04:33] <Hamm_desktop> they do not work
[04:34] <UnluckyMike> are you using wpa
[04:34] <Hamm_desktop> yes but i can turn it off
[04:34] <Benz145> ya Pelo but apparently its not possible to install ubuntu to an extternal hdd/flash drive without booting using a CD, which I can't do because I don't have a CD drive lol
[04:34] <hikyuu_> god i love Dragonforce XD
[04:34] <hikyuu_> lol
[04:34] <Hamm_desktop> it just will not connect
[04:34] <Hamm_desktop> it tries
[04:34] <Pelo> Machtyn, ther might he info in here on settingup a dialup  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:34] <hikyuu_> -headbangs-
[04:34] <Hamm_desktop> thats why i thought ndiswrapper woudl work
[04:34] <hikyuu_> X3
[04:34] <Pelo> Benz145,  Ic
[04:34] <UnluckyMike> Hamm: gnome-network-manager can't configure wpa for legacy rt61 drivers
[04:35] <Benz145> I wish I could boot from a virtual drive x_x
[04:35] <Machtyn> Thanks Pelo
[04:35] <hikyuu_> next up is Children of Bodom
[04:35] <hikyuu_> :3
[04:35] <Benz145> Can I install it to the external HDD using a computer that DOES have a CD drive, then boot using the external on my UMPC?
[04:35] <UnluckyMike> Hamm_desktop: you have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file by hand
[04:35] <hikyuu_> -needs to make a radio server on his PC... but doesnt have totally legal copies of his music >.>
[04:35] <Benz145> or when it installs, does it instal specific things tailored to the hardware of the computer that its installing on?
[04:36] <Pelo> Benz145, i,ll think there will be hardware issues
[04:36] <Benz145> blah
[04:36] <UnluckyMike> Hamm_desktop: can you accept pm's
[04:36] <Hamm_desktop> sure
[04:36] <nickalips_> would feisty help install my bcm43xx card?
[04:36] <Benz145> damn I don't see why u can't load the installer right inside windows and install to a specific partition/drive
[04:36] <hikyuu_> :O some of my music you cant just go "buy". and most of its european! RIAA doesnt even see them X.x
[04:36] <MSTK> eck - by the way, I managed to install Feisty peacefully.  It turns out that my troubles were caused by an incomplete update when my computer crashed.  After a fresh re-install, I uploaded my /home folder and found out that the tarball was corrupt for some reason (unexpected file termination or something).  But I managed to recover most of my settings, and things are going fine.  Thanks.
[04:37] <hikyuu_> Benz145 cause windows hates linux?
[04:37] <Benz145> hmm I see
[04:37] <hikyuu_> seriously, Microsoft does everything in its power to ruin Linux
[04:37] <BetaCookies> meh
[04:37] <Benz145> and for good reason : S
[04:37] <hikyuu_> hehee
[04:37] <BetaCookies> night everyone, my chest and my head are pounding, but i think its cause my heart's beating fast
[04:38] <hikyuu_> honestly, besides my gaming troubles, linux hands down is the best
[04:38] <Benz145> ya well whenever it gets slightly easy, maybe I'll give it a try
[04:38] <hikyuu_> hehee
[04:38] <Toma-> hikyuu_: gaming troubles you say?
[04:38] <chump> hikyuu_: why don't you buy a ps2 or ps3 to game ? :P
[04:38] <Benz145> I mean I don't even think I can install it without getting a USB dvd drove
[04:38] <Benz145> chump you spelled it wrong
[04:38] <Benz145> its "Xbox 360"
[04:39] <Kraeloc> I need help getting multiple monitors working on Ubuntu 7.04.
[04:39] <chump> and install linux on it ? :P
[04:39] <Benz145> lol
[04:39] <hikyuu_> Toma-: yeah, i cant seem to get games to work correctly, BF2142 wont start
[04:39] <chump> just like i did with my original xbox ! :P
[04:39] <hikyuu_> Toma-: im using Cedega 6
[04:39] <Toma-> bf2142 is pretty new...
[04:39] <Benz145> thanks for all the help everyone, maybe I'll stop by another time ^_^
[04:39] <Benz145> I'll probably give Ubuntu a try on my desktop
[04:39] <Benz145> bye everyone
[04:39] <Toma-> hikyuu_: i hope you purchased it :)
[04:39] <hikyuu_> Toma-: its covered under Cedega 6
[04:39] <chump> cya
[04:39] <hikyuu_> Cedega or BF2142?
[04:40] <hikyuu_> lol
[04:40] <chump> both !
[04:40] <hikyuu_> XD
[04:40] <hikyuu_> dont ask dont tell?
[04:40] <Toma-> hikyuu_: well, the best thing to do is to hop onto the cedega forums and possibly email them for support
[04:40] <donkeyofdarkness> DX10 = :(
[04:40] <Kraeloc> I need help getting multiple monitors working on Ubuntu 7.04.
[04:41] <Pelo> Kraeloc,  i thnk there is something in here about it  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:41] <MSTK> how would I make a symbolic link in order to make a program not in /bin run from /bin?
[04:41] <hexoroid> ln -s
[04:41] <philwhln> hi, i've installed feisty on a new partition, but grub only sees my edgy install and windows. i thought feisty would be added to it, but it hasnt changed
[04:41] <MSTK> hexoroid - yeah, but what parameters?  ln -s [program path]  [bin directory]  ?
[04:41] <hikyuu_> Toma-: i will, but i bet its my X.org file, cause another game said i wasnt running 32bit, but i changed X.org to 24bit, i read somewere that the 32bit is just 24 bit with 8 channels of alpha
[04:41] <Kraeloc> pelo: thanks, i'll look there
[04:41] <hexoroid> path to binary
[04:42] <hexoroid> like do touch /bin/bleh
[04:42] <MSTK> hexoroid - which goes first?
[04:42] <hikyuu_> Toma- in anyway, its in my X.org file or in my drivers
[04:42] <Toma-> hikyuu_: yeh. keep it simple. i run mine at 16bit :D
[04:42] <hexoroid> ln -s file /bin/bleh
[04:42] <Pelo> g'ngiht
[04:42] <MSTK> hexoroid - thanks
[04:42] <hikyuu_> Toma-: lol, well, it wont run games at that level ::P
[04:42] <hikyuu_> :P*
[04:42] <hexoroid> not a problem :-)
[04:43] <Toma-> brb.
[04:43] <hikyuu_> Toma- but i dont play enough to be hindered by it
[04:43] <slowfast> After upgrading to Feisty gnome window manager does not work.  I can boot into KDE.  When I log out of KDE and sign into gnome, the desktop appears but the windows do not have title bars.  When I select the showdesk top button, an error dialog states: "Your window manager does not support the show desktop button, or you are not running a windows manager."  I have uninstalled and reinstalled ubuntu-desktop. Any idea for a fix?
[04:43] <hikyuu_> i have a music player. torrent, P2P, and messenger/chat stuff
[04:43] <hikyuu_> im done
[04:43] <hikyuu_> and Secondlife runs somewhat ok on here
[04:43] <hikyuu_> so bleh
[04:43] <hikyuu_> lol
[04:44] <DeadCowBoy> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) : I see the networks, I try to connect to the networks, it detects the proper encryption, i see the little status icon spin around but... never connects and never gives an error message... been havin' this issue for quite a while now
[04:44] <macd> donkeyofdarkness, hi.
[04:44] <donkeyofdarkness> lol
[04:45] <wims> how can i resize an ntfs partition to make room for another partition ?
[04:45] <MSTK> any folder named /bin is automatically included in the Path, right?
[04:45] <hikyuu_> hehee, gonna watch invader Zim :3
[04:45] <donkeyofdarkness> wims> I find it's best to get rid of NTFS
[04:45] <MSTK> no matter where they are nested?
[04:45] <hurt> why donkeyofdarkness
[04:45] <Nik_> wims, boot off a linux livecd distro that has a partition manager
[04:45] <Nik_> that will work
[04:45] <wims> nono, i'm in linux now
[04:45] <donkeyofdarkness> hurt> It makes me sad :(
[04:46] <wims> i have an ntfs partition i need to resize
[04:46] <DeadCowBoy> donkeyofdarkness don't you find it even better to get rid of MS-everything?
[04:46] <ant-> !partition
[04:46] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:46] <Nik_> do you have a partition manager installed?
[04:46] <vecina> help! i cant change my refresh and 60 is killing my eyes :( im in kde and i have a radeon x700.
[04:46] <donkeyofdarkness> DeadCowBoy> Yeah.. I did that
[04:46] <hikyuu_> :3 Ubuntu = <3
[04:46] <hanasaki> what tool //// gui tool can I use , that is like passwd adduser useradd etc... but works on LDAP
[04:46] <wims> gparted has resizing "ghosted" (disabled)
[04:47] <Raptor45> wims, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:47] <ant-> resizing is kinda risky
[04:47] <DeadCowBoy> donkeyofdarkness , did it a year ago... never came back.. it was a very pleasant feeling... (I feel like an A.A who achieved a year without drinking)
[04:47] <ant-> you should defrag your ntfs first
[04:47] <wims> its ok with risk
[04:47] <wims> i can take it :)
[04:47] <donkeyofdarkness> wims> try qtparted
[04:47] <MikeDK> have a problem with Cairo-dock in feisty i386
[04:47] <macd> how about non support issues in #ubuntu-offtopic , thanks.
[04:47] <hanasaki> i like the stuff from vcomm
[04:47] <Nik_> i have XP and Vista installed.. want to install Ubuntu 7.04.. should i just make a partition for it and use its boot loader?
[04:47] <donkeyofdarkness> wims> It can resize
[04:47] <Kraeloc> pelo: that has sections on enabling dual-head on intel and nvidia cards, but i have an ati.
[04:48] <cassio> hi
[04:48] <donkeyofdarkness> wims> dunno if it will resize ntfs though
[04:48] <cassio> i need some help
[04:48] <wims> donkeyofdarkness, thanks, i'll check it out
[04:48] <Kraeloc> I need help getting multiple monitors working on Ubuntu 7.04, on an ATI video card.
[04:48] <DeadCowBoy> Nik_ you don't need XP or vista if you install Ubuntu, come on!
[04:48] <wims> hmm ok
[04:48] <macd> !hi | cassio
[04:48] <ubotu> cassio: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:48] <MikeDK> how do i start cairo-dock without xgl-server installed
[04:48] <Nik_> lol cowboy
[04:48] <cassio> i'm trying to burn the iso cd for kubuntu feister
[04:48] <Raptor45> wims, I have used the gparted livecd to resize NTFS without problems
[04:48] <donkeyofdarkness> wims> You need to enable write support for ntfs prolly
[04:48] <cassio> but k3b is giving me a strange error
[04:48] <macd> cassio, yes, and what OS are you using to burn it?
[04:48] <macd> NVM
[04:48] <Nik_> but will GRUB detect both XP and Vista ?
[04:48] <macd> what is the k3b error, cassio
[04:49] <tehxed> How do I make it so Desktop effects are loaded with ubuntu when I login?
[04:49] <macd> Nik_, yes.
[04:49] <Nik_> okay thanks
[04:49] <macd> tehxed, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[04:49] <wims> Raptor45,  yeah well, i dont have a spare cd
[04:49] <cassio> it says me "cdrecord has no permission to open the device
[04:49] <DeadCowBoy> so... nobody can help me with my broadcom wireless??????
[04:49] <donkeyofdarkness> I heard vista + grub was a little tricky
[04:49] <tehxed> macd: Thanks
[04:49] <Raptor45> wims, oh sorry, I wasn't aware of that
[04:49] <ant-> wims : there are some steps on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot?action=show&redirect=WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:49] <macd> cassio, you need to run setup, goto preferences and do that.
[04:49] <cassio> i'm using dapper
[04:49] <Kraeloc> I need help getting multiple monitors working on Ubuntu 7.04, on an ATI video card.
[04:49] <fernando> hi
[04:49] <IowaDave> MSTK: anybody answered you yet?
[04:49] <cassio> macd, what setup?
[04:50] <Nik_> donkeyofdarkness, why??
[04:50] <Dabian> 64bit question:  I run feisty, I can find link for mplayer32 player for dapper and EDGY .. is there any for Feisty?
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> What does it mean when I get the error message: "The composite extension is not available." when trying to open Desktop Effects ?
[04:50] <macd> cassio, within k3b, go into preferences, then it will go into administrative mode, there you can setup burning permissions.
[04:50] <donkeyofdarkness> Nik_> M$ made some changes to their boot loader
[04:50] <MikeDK> question?: how do i start cairo-dock without xgl-server installed
[04:50] <MikeDK> in feisty
[04:50] <Dabian> MikeDK: : Hvad er Cairo-dock?  Noget KDE sjov?
[04:50] <Nik_> i thought GRUB ignores microsoft's boot loader anyway
[04:51] <MikeDK> hehe hejsa
[04:51] <donkeyofdarkness> Nik_> But feisty was released after vista so they may have fixed it
[04:51] <MikeDK> Dabian, det er osx-docken
[04:51] <Kazol> Could I install beryl onto dapper?
[04:51] <wims> no resize for ntfs in qtparted :(
[04:51] <MSTK> IowaDave - no, but the answer isn't as important anymore.  I'm still curious, though.
[04:51] <donkeyofdarkness> I dunno cuz I don't own a computer that can run vista
[04:51] <hurt> my lap runs vista
[04:51] <MikeDK> Dabian, men den kre ikke med kde-libs
[04:51] <hurt> runs fine, just dont like vista
[04:51] <Dabian> MikeDK: : OH .. I don't run OSX.
[04:52] <sanityx> Anybody know a tool to access windows-based VPNs from Linux?
[04:52] <MSTK> and if the answer is no, then I'd like to know how to permanently edit my $PATH file...and if sudo export $PATH does the job ro not.
[04:52] <cassio> macd, what setup?
[04:52] <donkeyofdarkness> well.. I got one computer.. and this one could too if I upgraded.
[04:52] <Dabian> 64bit question:  I run feisty, I can find link for mplayer32 player for dapper and EDGY .. is there any for Feisty?
[04:52] <MikeDK> Dabian, eehhm ok
[04:52] <cassio> macd, ok
[04:52] <cassio> i'll try
[04:52] <macd> cassio, in k3b, preferences, there is a tab with burning device, I think its in there.
[04:52] <cassio> :)
[04:52] <IowaDave> MSTK: check your $PATH variable (echo $PATH) if the nested /bin isn't there, you can add it for sure in your .bashrc file.
[04:52] <MikeDK> Dabian, neither do i, run Ubuntu Feisty :-)
[04:52] <Kazol> What are some games that run on Linux? (Similar to Halo, etc.)
[04:52] <MSTK> IowaDave - ah, thanks.
[04:53] <Dabian> MikeDK: : On a powerpc with mac on linux, right?
[04:53] <Raptor45> Dabian, mplayer is in the repositories isn't it?
[04:53] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> Open Arena
[04:53] <MSTK> .bashrc is in your home folder, right?  so each account has a different one?
[04:53] <ant-> MSTK : $path is in ~/.bashrc
[04:53] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> Nexuiz
[04:53] <MikeDK> Dabian, nope just ordinary PC with Feisty installed
[04:53] <Dabian> Raptor45: Yes, the 64bit version .. but it wont play proprietary wmv9 for instance.
[04:53] <IowaDave> MSTK: right, for users. lemme check for global...
[04:53] <Raptor45> Dabian, medibuntu has a w32codec thing for 64bit
[04:54] <UnluckyMike> Kazol: Americas army, doom3, quake's or you can cadega and run most games
[04:54] <sanityx> Anybody know a PPTP vpn client?
[04:54] <MSTK> by the way, once I have started running a program in the terminal, is there any way I can just leave it running in the background?  So I can continue using that terminal window.
[04:54] <MikeDK> Dabian, its the panel in the bottom at the screen just like mac's osx dock
[04:54] <Kazol> donkeyofdarkness: where do I pirate those games? TPB?
[04:54] <Raptor45> Dabian, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/non-free/amd64/w64codecs_20061203-0medibuntu1_amd64.deb
[04:54] <bstempi> MSTK: append an ampersand to the end
[04:54] <UnluckyMike> wow
[04:54] <UnluckyMike> pirating...
[04:54] <Kazol> UnluckyMike: How about Halo Trial?
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> They are in the ubuntu repository
[04:54] <Raptor45> Dabian, that what you're looking for?
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> I think
[04:54] <MSTK> bstempi - I'll do that in the future, but what if it's already running?
[04:54] <bstempi> for instance, if I wanted to run cp, I'd run cp /source /dest &
[04:55] <Dabian> Raptor45: Lemme check.
[04:55] <Kazol> donkeyofdarkness: They're open source??
[04:55] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> If not, they're open source and you can get them from their websites
[04:55] <bstempi> then you're stuck
[04:55] <UnluckyMike> Kazol: americas army is free
[04:55] <IowaDave> MSTK: read man bash. down around line 130 or so it starts discussing the various .bashrc files. looks like you have some flexibility there
[04:55] <Kazol> donkeyofdarkness: Thanks. I'll try them.
[04:55] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> yeah. and they're pretty cool too
[04:55] <MikeDK> Quesion: how do i start the cairo-dock without having xgl-server installed
[04:55] <UnluckyMike> Kazol: search for americas army in google
[04:55] <Dabian> Raptor45: Isn't that just the codecs .. or is this codecs that works for 64 bit?
[04:55] <Dabian> MikeDK: I don't think you do.
[04:55] <MikeDK> Question: how do i start the cairo-dock without having xgl-server installed
[04:55] <bstempi> MSTK> you could always end the process and start again
[04:55] <bimberi> !info network-manager-pptp | sanityx
[04:55] <ubotu> sanityx: network-manager-pptp: network management framework (PPTP plugin). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3+cvs20060819-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 67 kB, installed size 428 kB
[04:55] <Kazol> UnluckyMike: I'll install it. I've heard it's good and realistic (though brainwashing).
[04:55] <bstempi> control + c kills whatever is running in the terminal
[04:56] <Raptor45> Dabian, I think it's mplayer's 32bit codec for stuff like wmv ported to 64 bit
[04:56] <MSTK> bstempi - that's not an option right now, but I could have sworn that I read somewhere that there is a way to send a program to background while it's running
[04:56] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> give me a sec and I'll get you a link to a ton of linux games
[04:56] <MSTK> maybe i could do it from another window.
[04:56] <Dabian> MikeDK: : Jeg har set OSX dock og den vil krve ting du fr fra XGL
[04:56] <UnluckyMike> Kazol: I'm already brainwashed from being in the military
[04:56] <MikeDK> Dabian, oohh i have it started right here at the bottom, of my screen but it has a black stribe across one third of the screen
[04:56] <bstempi> the only thing to keep in mind is that when you use & to return to the terminal, the program's output will still come to the terminal
[04:57] <Dabian> MikeDK: Der er et alternativ til XGL, men jeg kan ikke huske hvad det hedder.
[04:57] <donkeyofdarkness> Kazol> Here   http://happypenguin.org/
[04:57] <Kazol> UnluckyMike: lol. Same here.
[04:57] <MSTK> IowaDave - thanks.  I see it now.
[04:57] <Kazol> donkeyofdarkness: Thanks.
[04:57] <MSTK> bstempi - i'll keep that in mind.
[04:57] <cassio> macd, cant find it... i found the settings part
[04:57] <cassio> its using the group "burning"
[04:57] <EADG_> MSTK: I think you can ctrl + Z to suspend then send the job to the background, not sure how though.
[04:57] <MikeDK> Dabian, if u like to join the Danish channel ubuntu just join #ubuntu-dk
[04:57] <cassio> i trie to change to group "cassio"
[04:57] <cassio> but no success
[04:58] <MSTK> btw, what's the command to just run a file normally?  gnome-open I know opens files, but when i try that on binaries it opens up the actual text file for editing.
[04:58] <djidane> salut
[04:58] <Dabian> Raptor45: I guess its best to add it as deb-source?
[04:58] <bstempi> MSTK> ./
[04:58] <UnluckyMike> MSTK: chmod +x
[04:58] <bstempi> MSTK> example, ./cp
[04:58] <Raptor45> Dabian, you mean add the whole repo? yeah you could do that
[04:58] <macd> cassio, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300546 addresses your issue directly
[04:58] <tehxed> I'm having an issue with my sound (in Ubuntu 7.04) where the sound works only after almost every other restart. The quality or any other properties of the sound are fine, but it only works in and out. Can someone help me out with this issue? I have a Hercules 5.1 Muse (PCI) sound card and logitech 5.1 speakers. I have checked and nothing seems to be muted in the sound properties.
[04:59] <MSTK> bstempi - ah, thanks.  I actually already knew about ./, just forgot it could be used for that.  If you can't tell, I'm new to the command line.
[04:59] <donkeyofdarkness> I changed chmod to "pwn" on my system
[04:59] <CaptainMorgan> What does it mean when I get the error message: "The composite extension is not available." when trying to open Desktop Effects ?
[04:59] <IowaDave> MSTK: for backgrounding a running program:  bg [jobID] 
[04:59] <MSTK> EADG_ - I think I recall that, as well.  But the program I'm running is very sensitive and I wouldn't want to accidentally terminate it.
[04:59] <Raptor45> Dabian, they have libdvdcss2 as well, for dvds
[04:59] <MSTK> IowaDave - ah, that's it.  thanks.
[04:59] <bstempi> MSTK> I remember when I went though that....it wasn't very pretty :)
[04:59] <donkeyofdarkness> I must PWN everything!
[04:59] <macd> cassio, err wrong link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-393257.html
[04:59] <Kazol> UnluckyMike: No, I thought you said you are not interested in joining. I misunderstood you.
[04:59] <Dabian> Raptor45: Actually I think I need to rethink my whole 64-bit installation .. so far I used chroot.
[04:59] <cassio> macd, ok, thank u
[04:59] <Raptor45> Dabian, aaah... I never went that way
[05:00] <UnluckyMike> ok
[05:00] <Raptor45> Dabian, 64bit isn't bad in Feisty actually, previously I can see why you would have wanted to do that
[05:00] <Dabian> Raptor45: I didn't really realize there were an alternative, until tonight.
[05:00] <MSTK> bstempi - I figured that after I completely screwed up my Feisty upgrade, I should take another look at this whole command line thing.  I've been spending all of my spare time reading up on it now.  books and online resources.  it's like a whole new world.
[05:00] <vbabiy> hey guys is there any way to extract files over gnome-vfs
[05:00] <MikeDK> Dabian, if u like to join the Danish channel ubuntu just join #ubuntu-dk
[05:00] <mordof> ok, just installed ubuntu 7.04, need a bit of help getting my sound card to work (sound blaster live!) i also have onboard sound and another unknown sound device, can anyone help me get this configured right?
[05:00] <Dabian> Raptor45: Well, I installed Edgy or the one before.
[05:00] <kitsuneofdoom> Trying to get a Matrox MGA G200 AGP graphics card to do rendering. Failing miserably. Fiesty Fawn. Any help?
[05:01] <donkeyofdarkness> I don't see any reason to use 64bit just yet.. except maybe for working with video or on a server
[05:01] <Raptor45> Dabian, yeah... 64bit was kind of a mess there.. I struggled through without a chroot, but it wasn't ufn
[05:01] <Raptor45> donkeyofdarkness, I don't do it for "performance", as I know I'm not getting any... I just like doing it
[05:02] <Dabian> Raptor45: Is there a guide or something?  I searched here and there using google .. but I couldn't find a general page that explains how to get a 32-bit version of firefox with flash and stuff.
[05:02] <Raptor45> I have a 64 bit CPU and I want to use it
[05:02] <ash_> ubuntu = all
[05:02] <ash_> ubuntu = all
[05:02] <EADG_> MSTK: CLI is alot of fun, I spend most of my time in it, really the only time I startx is to fire up Azureus.
[05:02] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah, it's important to be as l33t as possible.
[05:02] <Raptor45> Dabian, lots of searching around basically
[05:02] <Raptor45> Dabian, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2034277&postcount=1
[05:02] <Raptor45> for flash
[05:02] <mordof> nevermind on the sound thing i got it figured out
[05:02] <ash_> man i love ubuntu :D
[05:03] <Dabian> Raptor45: Do you happen to have the debsource line for the other link you posted?
[05:03] <MSTK> EADG_ - yeah. I'm slowly coming to the realization that I could do all of my daily computing activities (e-mail, internet, chat, writing) purely on CLI.  And plus I look like a "1337 ha><0rz" while doing it.
[05:03] <mypapit> ash_ : :)
[05:03] <tehxed> I'm having an issue with my sound (in Ubuntu 7.04) where the sound works only after almost every other restart. The quality or any other properties of the sound are fine, but it only works in and out. Can someone help me out with this issue? I have a Hercules 5.1 Muse (PCI) sound card and logitech 5.1 speakers. I have checked and nothing seems to be muted in the sound properties.
[05:03] <MSTK> ash_ - amen.
[05:03] <Raptor45> Dabian, looking for this? http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[05:03] <ash_> :D
[05:03] <mttman> i was wondering if someone could help with a problem that i am having with beryl
[05:03] <MSTK> !ask | mttman
[05:03] <ubotu> mttman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:04] <Dabian> Raptor45: Maybe I am not used to ubuntu ...
[05:04] <ash_> ok i go smoke a spliff and come back to these nice visuals :D
[05:04] <Dabian> Raptor45: In debian, you would add a line to /etc/apt/apt.sources.list
[05:04] <mttman> when i run beryl my screen turns white but i can see the effects working if i mouse over a menu like applications
[05:04] <Dabian> Raptor45: How do you do in Ubuntu?
[05:04] <donkeyofdarkness> I've only gotten XGL to work with the mesa driver
[05:04] <donkeyofdarkness> but beryl wouldn't work on it
[05:04] <Raptor45> Dabian, you can do that... that's basically what that page does, except automatically
[05:05] <Dabian> Raptor45: oh
[05:05] <DarkED> hi, i'm having a problem with Gnome
[05:05] <EADG_> MSTK: look at a program called Screen, very useful in cli. For the l33tness factor install & run htop and iftop :)
[05:05] <cassio> macd, ok, i fixed it
[05:05] <Raptor45> Dabian, you can also do it through the GUI from System>Admin>Software Sources
[05:05] <cassio> thank u very much :0
[05:05] <Dabian> Raptor45: I'll try clicking the link.
[05:05] <cassio> :)
[05:05] <tehxed> Can anyone help me with a problem relating to sound (possibly driver related) issue?
[05:05] <DarkED> when I start Gnome the gnome settings daemon crashes
[05:05] <DarkED> nautilius also doesn't want to work
[05:05] <MSTK> EASDG_ - I almost wish now that I could carry around CLI on a flash drive or soemthing and run it on any computer.
[05:06] <DarkED> I'm running Kubuntu 7.04
[05:06] <donkeyofdarkness> MSTK> damn small linux
[05:06] <EADG_> MSTK: Puppy Linux or Damm Small Linux.
[05:07] <EADG_> ~50Mb each iirc
[05:07] <bstempi> MSTK> there are a lot of options for that
[05:07] <donkeyofdarkness> MSTK> or even slax
[05:07] <robert__> how do i install a new theme in beryl
[05:07] <donkeyofdarkness> MSTK> Knoppix if you have a big flash drive
[05:07] <MikeDK> robert_go to beryl-theme-manager if u have it installed
[05:08] <MikeDK> robert_ go to beryl-theme-manager if u have it installed
[05:08] <peepsalot> there is an emerald theme manager that has an interface manager to install them IIRC
[05:08] <robert__> i do, but i see all these themes and i don't know what to do from there
[05:08] <tehxed> Can anyone help me with a problem relating to sound (possibly driver related) issue?
[05:08] <MSTK> Is it feasibly possible to run a gnome/bash CLI on Windows?
[05:08] <donkeyofdarkness> I'd recommend something based on knoppix for a flash drive
[05:08] <limaunion> hi there, does anyone know why my Feisty system doesn't have the following files: /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny /etc/inittab ??
[05:08] <peepsalot> !ask | tehxed
[05:08] <ubotu> tehxed: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:08] <robert__> well i have emarld theme manager
[05:08] <donkeyofdarkness> MSTK> damn small linux can run in windows
[05:08] <tehxed> I'm having an issue with my sound (in Ubuntu 7.04) where the sound works only after almost every other restart. The quality or any other properties of the sound are fine, but it only works in and out. Can someone help me out with this issue? I have a Hercules 5.1 Muse (PCI) sound card and logitech 5.1 speakers. I have checked and nothing seems to be muted in the sound properties.
[05:08] <getoo> is ubuntu cd like knopix , runs outa the box without having to intall it
[05:09] <MSTK> donkeyofdarkness - thanks, I'll check it out
[05:09] <donkeyofdarkness> MSTK> Or you can use qemu to run any distro in windows
[05:09] <IowaDave> getoo: yes
[05:09] <MSTK> getoo - you can run it "out-of-the-box" with a LiveCD
[05:09] <MikeDK> anyone that can help me, with my cairo-dock problem?
[05:09] <getoo> MSTK: i am d/l 7.04 is that a live cd
[05:10] <getoo> IowaDave: thank u
[05:10] <peepsalot> getoo, yes it is
[05:10] <getoo> that means i can run mozilla and everythign without having to install it right
[05:10] <getoo> thats great
[05:10] <IowaDave> getoo: be sure to burn the iso to cd as a volume and not as a data file
[05:10] <getoo> IowaDave: i am not sure what i did
[05:10] <getoo> but i can reburn it
[05:10] <MSTK> getoo - yes, but as everything is stored in the RAM, your settings/history will probably be gone after a reboot
[05:11] <bitmess> running feisty, I log in everything seems to load up normally then it locks up. Nothing brings it back.  Can I recover this?
[05:11] <elijah> hi everyone
[05:11] <MSTK> hi elijah.
[05:11] <getoo> MSTK: got it
[05:11] <bitmess> Gnome safe mode does same thing
[05:11] <getoo> i am almost done burning it
[05:11] <getoo> and i shall give it a try
[05:11] <Raptor45> Dabian, any luck?
[05:11] <elijah> i've installed ubuntu edgy on my laptop, can i connect it to a TV?
[05:12] <wastrel> limaunion:  i assume inittab isn't present because feisty is using upstart instead of init for init
[05:12] <peepsalot> bitmess, you can try Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go to a console and troubleshoot things from there if that works
[05:12] <vbabiy> is there any one out there that can help me with CIFS an mounting it on wireless connection.. Please
[05:12] <wastrel> limaunion:  hosts.allow and .deny,  i think they come in with inetd?
[05:12] <philwhln> hi, quick question. how do I copy one partition to another?
[05:12] <peepsalot> bitmess, failing that you can try to ssh into the box from another computer on the network
[05:13] <blaker> i love ubuntu!
[05:13] <philwhln> i love it too
[05:13] <blaker> i wish ubuntu would run on my laptop though.
[05:13] <hurt> biaker but does it love you?
[05:13] <philwhln> why won't it run blaker?
[05:13] <hurt> biaker see
[05:13] <MoLE_> Hamm_Desktop, hey how's the beryl problem going?
[05:13] <Sleepy_Coder> I wish the appletouch driver worked better so I could install it on my Powerbook. :<
[05:13] <blaker> well i mean it does, but its slower than windows
[05:13] <blaker> on my laptop
[05:13] <Sleepy_Coder> ironic...yes.
[05:13] <peepsalot> bitmess, does it happen immediately after every log in, or just some random time during use?
[05:14] <blaker> why ironic?
[05:14] <elijah> ei peepsalot
[05:14] <Sleepy_Coder> I was just talking about a Powerbook... :)
[05:14] <philwhln> does anyone know how to copy a whole partition to another partition?
[05:14] <blaker> i put xubuntu on my laptop and its really slow
[05:14] <Sleepy_Coder> And look who joined. :p
[05:14] <blaker> what do most of you use? ubuntu? kubuntu? or xubuntu?
[05:14] <peepsalot> hi elijah
[05:14] <blaker> im using xubuntu
[05:14] <elijah>  i've installed ubuntu edgy on my laptop, can i connect it to a TV using the tv-out cable?
[05:14] <Sleepy_Coder> ubuntu. :)
[05:14] <blenderhead001> ubuntu
[05:14] <EADG_> KU here
[05:14] <donkeyofdarkness> kubuntu
[05:14] <KHatfull> hi, just ran a command line Feisty install and realized the installer didn't ask me for a username/password, is there a defualt?
[05:15] <blaker> yes elijah
[05:15] <blaker> i just set that up for myself
[05:15] <peepsalot> blaker, using xubuntu right now
[05:15] <blaker> 30 mins ago
[05:15] <IowaDave> plain u
[05:15] <elijah> i just tried the function F8 but it didn't
[05:15] <bitmess> peepsalot: no it loads gnome I get the jungle music then about 5 seconds later it locks completely, I try ctrl-alt bkspace and try to get another session. nothing. I don't really know where to start troubleshooting the problem
[05:15] <blaker> its just a quick change to xorg.cong
[05:15] <blaker> .conf
[05:15] <blaker> lemme find the article i used
[05:15] <darnell> whats the directory that holds the sounds?
[05:15] <darnell> i want to change the sound system
[05:15] <Raptor45> bitmess, you could hit ctr-alt-f1 before you actually login
[05:16] <mordof> hey how do i run a .run file, lol.. i'm kinda new -.-
[05:16] <Raptor45> bitmess, but I wouldn't know where to look for a problem
[05:16] <limaunion> wastrel: thks for your reply. You're probably right, I wonder where should I configure now what must happen when someone press ctrl+alt+del
[05:16] <MoLE_> KHatfull, has the install finished and rebooted?
[05:16] <donkeyofdarkness> mordof> chmod +x /path/to/file
[05:16] <bimberi> KHatfull: it should have asked you.  boot into recovery mode and 'grep 1000 /etc/passwd', that will tell you the username.  then you can use 'passwd <username>' to set a known password
[05:16] <peepsalot> bitmess, yeah, i'm not very good with such things, but you can try scrounging in various log files.  might need to boot from LiveCD to get to them if it's always locked up
[05:16] <donkeyofdarkness> mordof> then you can double click it prolly
[05:16] <st3v3dnd> Anyone know how to make Totem not close after a video ends?
[05:16] <blaker> is it nvidia elijah?
[05:16] <mordof> ty
[05:17] <elijah> yuh nvidia
[05:17] <bitmess> Raptor45:  I can launch an xterm but I don't know exactly where to look for the problem. Some sort of log maybe??
[05:17] <blaker> NvidiaTvOut
[05:17] <blaker> oops
[05:17] <blaker> hang on
[05:17] <elijah> its a dell latitude laptop
[05:17] <IowaDave> gotta go count the chickens. g'night :)
[05:17] <blaker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[05:17] <blaker> read that
[05:17] <peepsalot> bitmess, if you can launch an xterm, then how is it locked up?
[05:17] <Raptor45> bitmess, sorry, I really don't know enough to help further
[05:17] <blaker> it was very simple elijah
[05:17] <mordof> GAH
[05:17] <mordof> ati doesn't have drivers up to date enough for this
[05:17] <KHatfull> mole: yes
[05:17] <hurt> someone have a problem with a dell laptop?
[05:18] <peepsalot> someone have any vary vague questions?
[05:18] <bitmess> I can select my session before logging in and xterminal is an option there. Also I am running from a live cd now.
[05:18] <KHatfull> bimberi: I'll try, thanks
[05:18] <peepsalot> *very*
[05:18] <elijah> yuh maybe it's simple but not for a noob like me
[05:18] <philwhln> does anyone know how to copy a whole partition to another partition?
[05:18] <hurt> elijah whats the problem
[05:18] <blaker> elijah, its simple for anyone
[05:18] <blaker> if you can open a terminal it tells you the rest
[05:18] <blaker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[05:19] <kitsuneofdoom> can I downgrade from xorg 7.2.0 to xorg 7.0.0 in Feisty?
[05:19] <darnell> i wish i could come in here one time and get my questions answered
[05:19] <elijah> ok thanks, i'll just read
[05:19] <blaker> lol i know darnell
[05:19] <Toma-> kitsuneofdoom: why would you want to do that?
[05:19] <mordof> can anyone help me get ati drivers working? i'm running fiesty fawn and an x1950xtx
[05:19] <blaker> it doesn't help that you have a black mans name darnell, people that use linux dont tend to like blacks
[05:19] <limaunion> philwhln: you should check 'dd'
[05:19] <mordof> feisty.. ? *
[05:20] <kitsuneofdoom> Toma-: vendor graphics card drivers.
[05:20] <donkeyofdarkness> philwhln  yeah
[05:20] <philwhln> cheers limaunion. i'll check it
[05:20] <Toma-> kitsuneofdoom: ...what drivers?
[05:20] <kitsuneofdoom> Toma-: Matrox
[05:20] <Toma-> yikes!
[05:20] <philwhln> donkeyofdarkness oh yeah! :)
[05:20] <Dabian> Raptor45: I need to install a 32-bit version of firefox also, right?
[05:20] <Raptor45> I have a G7 mouse, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/G7Mouse breaks X... what needs to be changed to get those buttons working?
[05:20] <bitmess> DOes Gnome make a log? My Gnome is broken and I can get it up
[05:20] <st3v3dnd> darnell: I hear you. I usually try posting in here, but rarely get an answer. I generally have better luck at ubuntuforums.org
[05:20] <peepsalot> bitmess, ~/.xsession_errors many other log files in /var/log  you can check the dates to see the most recently written to, use tail to see the last few lines in them, etc
[05:20] <Raptor45> Dabian, no... did you get my msg?
[05:21] <Toma-> kitsuneofdoom: they should be compatible with 7.2 if theyre written for 7.0
[05:21] <Dabian> Raptor45: The "hey?" one?
[05:21] <Raptor45> Dabian, yeah
[05:21] <asherZ> anyone know how to enable my razer diamondback plazma mouse in ubuntu feisty??
[05:21] <Dabian> Raptor45: No  :P
[05:21] <bitmess> peepsalot: Thanks, ill go check that out
[05:21] <Dabian> Raptor45: (Just kidding, I got it :)
[05:21] <getoo> yes it woks
[05:21] <demonspork> How would I set it up so that Keybinds set for applications run in Wine always work, whether or not you have the app focused?
[05:21] <darnell> maybe so..
[05:21] <darnell> the users of linux are bias
[05:21] <darnell> interesting
[05:21] <kitsuneofdoom> Toma-: so, if I fiddle with the installer script it might work?
[05:21] <donkeyofdarkness> philwhln> you get my /msg ?
[05:21] <phy3> darnell, maybe it is blaker that is biased
[05:22] <Toma-> kitsuneofdoom: sure. check out the --help option with ./configure (if thats one of the steps) as you can setup the install dirs/locations and all that jazz
[05:22] <darnell> perhaps, but that isnt what is important to me.
[05:22] <bitmess> what is in the backups folder in /var/backups? Is this like system restore or something?
[05:22] <peepsalot> bitmess, i once completely messed up my gnome, but I found that it worked if I created a new user and logging in as them.  did you ever have Gnome working on this computer?
[05:22] <kitsuneofdoom> Toma-: a custom install script. GPU vendors hate us
[05:23] <Toma-> my god.
[05:23] <mordof> gah, my video drivers are currently a generic vesa driver x.x
[05:23] <GuyFromHell> can anyone help me figure out why i get the error http://rafb.net/p/NTkVtj70.html when i'm trying to run X with the ati drivers
[05:23] <Toma-> well see if there are any options you can pass with --help
[05:23] <mordof> someone please help XD
[05:23] <mordof> i need ati drivers and don't know where to get them, lol
[05:23] <mordof> (ones on the ati site aren't new enough)
[05:23] <synjet> guyfromhell: use pastebin
[05:24] <phy3> DARNELL -- sudo find / -name *.wav | grep wav
[05:24] <GuyFromHell> synjet, err, would it make a difference?
[05:24] <wastrel> the grep isn't necessary there
[05:25] <GuyFromHell> either way, my xorg.conf is http://rafb.net/p/NTkVtj70.html
[05:25] <phy3> true, it was aholdover from before I added sudo for the directories it couldn't access
[05:25] <wastrel> nor is sudo really, any system sounds would be world readable
[05:25] <phy3> then try it without jeez
[05:25] <darnell> great, thank you
[05:25] <bitmess> peepsalot: Yeah, it's been running for a while now. I tried logging in as to another account and it bombed too. I think the last I did was install some NTFS mounting software.
[05:25] <hierro> does anybody have an link to zabbix install tutorial in ubuntu 7.04?
[05:25] <GuyFromHell> err, scratch that, i changed ati to vesa to log into xchat
[05:25] <wastrel> nothing is ever good enough for me :]  sry phy3
[05:25] <phy3> that's ok
[05:26] <GuyFromHell> nevermind, will just reformat
[05:26] <phy3> I'm here for entertainment only
[05:26] <asherZ> how can i enable sound in flash 9 @ firefox @ ubuntu 7.04?
[05:26] <hierro> does anybody have an link to zabbix install tutorial in ubuntu 7.04?
[05:26] <maycolito> good night room
[05:26] <maycolito> I have an issue
[05:26] <asherZ> gn
[05:26] <maycolito> turns out I just installed feisty a while ago
[05:27] <maycolito> and this computer will not shutdown
[05:27] <maycolito> I saw a couple of threads about this on the forum
[05:27] <mordof> -.- nobody wants to help me get ati drivers? lol
[05:27] <maycolito> but they were not closed or answered
[05:27] <mordof> i'm so lost x.x
[05:27] <peepsalot> bitmess, pastebin your .xsession_errors, i bet there is a clue in there.  maybe someone will be able to help.  I have to go eat now, but might be able to help later if you are still on.
[05:27] <bitmess> peepsalot: Yeah I installed ntfs-3g
[05:27] <maycolito> allright
[05:27] <bitmess> peepsalot: thanks
[05:28] <wastrel> mordof:  follow the howto on the wiki
[05:28] <mneptok> blaker: no more racist comments, kthx
[05:28] <spacefrog> hi
[05:28] <donkeyofdarkness> mordof> ubuntuguide
[05:28] <mordof> ohh i forgot about the wiki
[05:28] <donkeyofdarkness> mordof> ubuntuguide.org
[05:28] <spacefrog> how can i connect to my wireless network with WPA?
[05:28] <spacefrog> All i see is WEP
[05:28] <wastrel> meh.
[05:29] <wastrel> !ati | mordof
[05:29] <ubotu> mordof: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:29] <MSTK> does anyone know of a CLI editor that allows simple RTF formatting? (bold, etc?)
[05:29] <mneptok> spacefrog: which release?
[05:29] <spacefrog> feisty
[05:30] <computer13137__> Hello
[05:30] <mneptok> spacefrog: NetWorkManager isn't doing WPA?
[05:30] <mneptok> s/W/w/
[05:30] <spacefrog> mneptok, nope
[05:30] <spacefrog> I dont see WPA there
[05:30] <UnluckyMike> spacefrog: are you using a rt61 card
[05:30] <spacefrog> only WEP HEX / WEP ASCII
[05:30] <Harzilein> hi
[05:30] <mneptok> spacefrog: "there" where?
[05:30] <spacefrog> im not sure
[05:31] <spacefrog> Under Network
[05:31] <bitmess> does this mean anything to anyone? ubuntu-feisty ssh-agent[5964] : error: Unknown message 252
[05:31] <UnluckyMike> spacefrog: lspci | grep Network
[05:31] <computer13137> Question.  If I start something in SSH, like a wget file download... is there any way I can set it so the task continues even if I disconnect from SSH?
[05:31] <mneptok> spacefrog: click the NM applet in the top GNOME panel
[05:31] <UnluckyMike> spacefrog: run tha in a terminal
[05:31] <mneptok> computer13137: screen
[05:31] <computer13137> mneptok -- is there a help page on that?
[05:32] <mneptok> computer13137: man screen
[05:32] <Nelo> Hello, I have a sound problem.  Mplayer mozilla plugin works great but flash (flash free) work witout audio. I did seach the forums and suggests to change the dsp from auto to aoss. I did that. now flash audio works, but mplayer does not. any ideas how to fix this?
[05:32] <wastrel> <3 screen
[05:32] <Harzilein> i'm a debian user and hang out on #xfce, every time i support ubuntu users i feel like i am wasting my time because of the ubuntu ways of doing things... are there app-specific ubuntu channels?
[05:32] <wastrel> Harzilein:  #xubuntu ?
[05:33] <demonspork> how do I set up Wine for ALSA audio?
[05:33] <computer13137> neptok--  No manual entry for screen
[05:33] <Punkunity> i need help i think
[05:33] <evan_> lol
[05:33] <Harzilein> wastrel: that's where he came from
[05:33] <wastrel> computer13137:  you'll prolly have to install screen first
[05:33] <Harzilein> wastrel: said it was too noisy there
[05:33] <Punkunity> i got my sound to work on feisty thanks to this rooms help , but it seems like it wont get REALLY LOUD anymore...
[05:33] <spacefrog> UnluckyMike, that command didnt return anything
[05:33] <mneptok> computer13137: what OS are you using?
[05:33] <computer13137> mneptok -- Ubuntu Edgy
[05:34] <mneptok> computer13137: screen has been a default package for a long time
[05:34] <wastrel> Harzilein:  dunno i never hang out there.
[05:34] <UnluckyMike> spacefrog: are you using a pci wireless card
[05:34] <Harzilein> wastrel: tried to spoon-feed my quick solution with a screenshot, problem was that xubuntu uses the launcher panel applet mostly instead of panel launchers
[05:34] <mneptok> computer13137: which screen
[05:34] <UnluckyMike> do you know the model
[05:34] <sanityx> I have a bunch of filenames in a text file
[05:34] <spacefrog> UnluckyMike, yes.. and it can see my wireless network.
[05:34] <sanityx> howcome when I do cat textfile | rm
[05:34] <Harzilein> wastrel: but how should i _know_ that?
[05:34] <computer13137> imneptok-- Whichever one I need....
[05:34] <sanityx> it says missing operand
[05:34] <wastrel> i don't use xfce, so no idea what you're talking about
[05:35] <oscuro_> guyys
[05:35] <mneptok> computer13137: type "which screen" in a terminal
[05:35] <Harzilein> wastrel: it's really like ubuntu forces its ways on the other support channels
[05:35] <oscuro_> I screwed up my keyboard.
[05:35] <computer13137> It just blanks
[05:35] <Perrako> Can anyone give me a hand on a device issue?
[05:35] <UnluckyMike> spacefrog: then your drivers don't support wpa though the network-manager
[05:35] <computer13137> Just goes back to the consle
[05:35] <zedfloyd> im a newbie, i need help instaling a driver for the first time
[05:35] <computer13137> *console
[05:35] <spacefrog> oh, i see
[05:35] <MSTK> how do I get emacs to run from the CLI?
[05:35] <oscuro_> symbols arent were they-re supposed to be
[05:35] <Perrako> I'm following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=24e2f7214ff7fe09989bf7cede69def2&t=277388
[05:35] <Q3Man> I'm looking at taking a win2k domani server to the shooting range, and I'd like to replace it with something more ubuntuish. Is samba mature enough to handle WinXP domain authentication/logins?
[05:35] <Punkunity> i adjust all my master sound levels to max, but it doesnt seem to be all the way up loud anyone help me please?
[05:35] <mneptok> computer13137: sudo apt-get install screen
[05:35] <wastrel> Harzilein:  it's the same as any popular distro, when red hat was king we all had to figure out how to deal with red hat users
[05:35] <Nelo> Hello, I have a sound problem.  Mplayer mozilla plugin works great but flash (flash free) works witout audio. I did seach the forums and suggests to change the dsp from auto to aoss. I did that. now flash audio works, but mplayer does not. any ideas how to fix this?
[05:36] <UnluckyMike> spacefrog: run lspci in a terminal and look through it for any network related items
[05:36] <computer13137> mneptok -- OK
[05:36] <Perrako> The problem right now is that i've got more than 10 devices, so I can't bind udev to event9 -- that's already taken.
[05:36] <wastrel> Q3Man:  samba 3 can act as a nt4 PDC, but dan't be an active directory domain controller
[05:36] <mneptok> Harzilein: Xubuntu makes no huge changes to XFCE functionality
[05:36] <wastrel> Q3Man:  it's non-trivial to set up however
[05:36] <zedfloyd> installing an nvidia driver... can somone give me a hint on how to get started?
[05:36] <Perrako> However, I can't bind to something like event15 since linux either creates event0 through event9, or if you have more than 10, up through the very last plugged in item (e.g. stops at event11 if you have 12 devices plugged in)
[05:36] <Black_Mask> good evening. I have removed sun-java5 and replaced it with sun-java6 by enabling backported repository in Synaptics Package Manager. Now, when I type java in termina, it says 'bash: command not found', although sun java plugin tool and policy icon are installed in gnome's application menus
[05:36] <Harzilein> mneptok: yeah, once i realized he meant the launcher applet instead of just launchers i stopped being confused
[05:37] <catid> does anyone know how to back up evolution email?
[05:37] <Q3Man> yeah, that's what I've run into.. I've tried to setup a few VM's and authenticate against them... with minimal success
[05:37] <zedfloyd> i have downloaded the file already
[05:37] <mneptok> Harzilein: in any event, complaining about Ubuntu system architecture decisions is not apprpriate for #ubuntu
[05:37] <Perrako> Is there a way to make it create something like event15 on boot? I can't reference an event that doesn't exist
[05:37] <zedfloyd> anyone?
[05:37] <mneptok> zedfloyd: you don't need anything from nVidia
[05:37] <UnluckyMike> zedfloyd: the drivers are in the repositories
[05:37] <zedfloyd> oh
[05:37] <mneptok> zedfloyd: just use tho restricted drivers manager
[05:37] <mneptok> *the
[05:38] <Oewyn> What bittorrent application would you guys suggest if i wanted use avoid gui based implementations like azureus, preferably with the ability to run it as a daemon w/ a CL/Web interface?
[05:38] <zedfloyd> Mneptok, how do i access them?
[05:38] <catid> mneptok: is there a way to use that approach if you have compiled your own kernel?
[05:38] <ieldib> Hey everybody
[05:38] <Harzilein> mneptok: just wanted someone to sympathize with me ;)
[05:38] <mneptok> Oewyn: btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado
[05:38] <Black_Mask> Oewyn ktorrent?
[05:38] <demonspork> I need help setting up Wine to use ALSA
[05:38] <mneptok> catid: nope. not without package dissection
[05:38] <ieldib> can anyone tell me why ubuntu refuses to go past 640x480  when a kvm is hooked upto it :(
[05:38] <computer13137> mneptok -- So if I type "screen" it will keep that stuff running after I close SSH?
[05:39] <yehweh> zedfloyd: system>admin>restricted drivers
[05:39] <Harzilein> mneptok: but wastrel's point is right, when we had all those suse users on ircnet #linux.de it was basically the same
[05:39] <mneptok> computer13137: screen $nameofapp
[05:39] <maycolito> anybody knows how to fix the issue where ubuntu will not finish shutting down
[05:39] <maycolito> ?
[05:39] <Harzilein> mneptok: the first thing we'd tell them was to turn off yast ;)
[05:39] <wastrel> computer13137:  you start screen, then you run the command then you detach from the screen session
[05:39] <modern> Hello
[05:39] <computer13137> mneptok --  So like "screen wget www.google.com/file.zip"?
[05:39] <catid> would anyone happen to know how to back up evolution email or install Ubuntu with LVM?
[05:39] <wastrel> screen bubbles merrily away until you reattach
[05:39] <Oewyn> I haven't really looked into any yet, just asking for advice as to which ones i should look at
[05:39] <mneptok> computer13137: exactly
[05:39] <mneptok> Oewyn: btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado
[05:39] <Black_Mask> maycolito that happened to me earlier in the morning today (6.10 edgy) but then i simply gave the power button a single press and it shut down cleanly
[05:40] <maycolito> yeah
[05:40] <maycolito> Black_Mask:
[05:40] <mneptok> Oewyn: i seed Ubuntu releases from Montreal with nothing else. that should tell you something. :)
[05:40] <maycolito> Black_Mask: I know what you mean
[05:40] <donkeyofdarkness> I always do sudo halt
[05:40] <vbabiy> hey guys any way to avoid this on boot [  121.404000]   CIFS VFS: Error connecting to IPv4 socket. Aborting operation
[05:40] <vbabiy> [  121.404000]   CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -113
[05:40] <maycolito> Black_Mask: and I've been doing the same thing
[05:40] <vbabiy> i use wireless
[05:40] <oscuro_> anybody could help me..I screwd up my kb.
[05:40] <donkeyofdarkness> I have a button that does kdesu halt
[05:40] <MoLE_> Black_Mask, have you run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:40] <oscuro_> symbols
[05:41] <Black_Mask> maycolito: however, i have never encountered any kind of shutdown or restart issue with KDE
[05:41] <maycolito> Black_Mask: but that kind of kills the whole beauty of being able to leave a scheduled shutdown
[05:41] <oscuro_> theyre not where they should be
[05:41] <modern> private
[05:41] <maycolito> Hm, well I'm now using gnome and kde
[05:41] <vbabiy> anyone?
[05:41] <DarkED> hmm... what would cause gnome-settings-daemon to segfault?
[05:41] <catid> would anyone happen to know how to back up evolution email or install Ubuntu with LVM?
[05:41] <maycolito> but it gets to the last point and then hags
[05:41] <oscuro_> I was messing up with xorg
[05:41] <oscuro_> new monitor
[05:41] <oscuro_> but ...
[05:41] <maycolito> you can even switch terminals
[05:41] <maycolito> but can't login to anyone of them
[05:41] <maycolito> so part of the system is actually still awake
[05:42] <Black_Mask> umm lol
[05:42] <donkeyofdarkness> zomg u brokd it
[05:42] <maycolito> somebody was sugesting me to check the system logs
[05:42] <Black_Mask> maycolito hold on a second
[05:42] <drowe> Problem.  My folks HDD crashed (running Windows) my mom buys music from WalMart, DRM'd WMA files.  I cloned the drive using ntfsclone, can mount the drive and see the files.  Anyone know a way to manually backup the license files, so once I restore the system (not *nix ready yet) I can restore her music?
[05:42] <maycolito> ok
[05:42] <mneptok> catid: rsync -avh --delete --progress --stats ~/.evolution/ /path/to/backup/
[05:42] <drowe> I thought the *nix crowd might have the answer
[05:43] <Black_Mask> MoLE_: nope
[05:43] <donkeyofdarkness> drowe play them and record the playback
[05:43] <mneptok> drowe: please ask Windows questions elsewhere
[05:43] <donkeyofdarkness> That will remove any DRM
[05:43] <mneptok> drowe: ##windows
[05:43] <KHatfull> bimberi: worked, thanks, appreciate it
[05:43] <mapez> I mounted my windows drive last week sda and I rebooted and majestically my hdd wont mount anymore.
[05:44] <MoLE_> Black_Mask, try it.
[05:44] <thelostpatrol> how do i make VLC the default player?
[05:44] <maycolito> allright I think I will put it on my list of things to investigate about.
[05:44] <catid> mneptok: so just make a copy of .evolution?  good, thanks
[05:44] <drowe> donkeyofdarkness: can't play DRM'd WMAs in Ubuntu as far as I know...
[05:44] <mneptok> maycolito: try passing "noacpi" to the kernel at boot
[05:44] <donkeyofdarkness> You could always redownload them off gnutella
[05:44] <drowe> mneptok: is there really a ##windows channel?  never knew...
[05:44] <skt> drowe: the first thing to remember is not to buy DRMd WMAs
[05:44] <thelostpatrol> how do i make VLC the default player?
[05:44] <mneptok> drowe: sweartagawd.
[05:45] <maycolito> I know you should add that in the grub meny file
[05:45] <MoLE_> thelostpatrol, for which media files do you want to make it default?
[05:45] <maycolito> but add it clean in another line ?
[05:45] <thelostpatrol> MoLE_, video
[05:45] <maycolito> or apend it to the line where it has the video
[05:45] <thelostpatrol> all video
[05:45] <maycolito> I mean the kernel
[05:45] <bruenig> thelostpatrol, right click on a video file, go to properties change the open with
[05:45] <MoLE_> thelostpatrol, .avi files?
[05:45] <bruenig> thelostpatrol, you will have to do that for each type of file you want it to be default for
[05:45] <demonspork> When I run Ventrilo through Wine, I can't hear sound from any other application on the system.  If I launch another application that uses sound first, Ventrilo sound won't work.  Can anyone help me figure out how to fix this?
[05:46] <vbabiy> how can i tell a bash script to run in terminal by default
[05:46] <thelostpatrol> bruenig, thanks
[05:46] <MoLE_> thelostpatrol, what bruenig said
[05:46] <maycolito> mneptok: where do I add that "noacpi"? should I add it in a clean line in the menu file of my grub ?
[05:46] <thelostpatrol> thanks guys that was simple
[05:46] <thelostpatrol> :)
[05:46] <peepsalot> bitmess
[05:46] <brentc4m> in virtualbox, can i close the main window when a vm is running?
[05:46] <donkeyofdarkness> DRM is a very bad thing
[05:46] <brentc4m> i don't really want to try it out
[05:46] <brentc4m> :)
[05:46] <bitmess> peepsalot: hello, no luck really
[05:47] <mneptok> maycolito: no, edit the default boot line during startup to include that. see if it helps.
[05:47] <peepsalot> oops
[05:47] <maycolito> allright I'll google something about passing that into the kernel about booting
[05:47] <mneptok> demonspork: you don't fix it. it's ESD vs OSS vs ALSA.
[05:47] <bimberi> KHatfull: cool, np :)
[05:47] <maycolito> I'm sure I will find something on passing kernel commands at boot itme
[05:47] <maycolito> I mean time
[05:47] <maycolito> thanks that should hellp
[05:48] <mneptok> maycolito: "Press <esc> to enter the GRUB menu"
[05:48] <maycolito> allright
[05:49] <Black_Mask> The popular filesharing application LimeWire released Debian packages for Ubuntu. The latest LimeWire release is tested on Ubuntu Edgy and Kubuntu Edgy/Feisty, and both the free and pro versions are available for download
[05:49] <waeoo> Is there any way to disable the beeps/bell from the case speaker during tab-completion and whatnot?
[05:49] <waeoo> Not for gnome-terminal either, for any tty/getty session.
[05:49] <Lathiat> waeoo: "rmmod pcspkr" is a bit of a hack way to do it
[05:50] <waeoo> wooo, that did the job. ;D
[05:50] <teethdood> Yahoo seems to have blocked GAIM from connecting
[05:50] <teethdood> can anyone confirm?
[05:51] <Black_Mask> teeth ?
[05:51] <Black_Mask> lol
[05:51] <zedfloyd> has anyone installed beryl?
[05:51] <MSTK> teethdood - yahoo works on GAIM for me.
[05:51] <MSTK> zedfloyd - yeah, most of us.  need any help?
[05:51] <UnluckyMike> zedfloyd: yes
[05:51] <teethdood> MSTK, thanks
[05:52] <Black_Mask> teeth yahoo works on gaim over here
[05:52] <rbil> zedfloyd: I imagine, thousands have
[05:52] <berent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18909/ can some one tell me why feisty is so problematic?
[05:52] <yehweh> gaim seems to be working fine for me!
[05:52] <zedfloyd> what do i need to know? is there a specific download for unbutu
[05:52] <demonspork> How do I play a DVD on Ubuntu?
[05:52] <MSTK> what's your graphics card, zedfloyd?
[05:52] <teethdood> weird...I can log into yahoo mail but not yahoo IM anymore
[05:53] <zedfloyd> i have a nvidia 7900
[05:53] <zedfloyd> i have enabled the drivers
[05:53] <hikyuu_> i need to get a nividia card
[05:53] <MSTK> if your drivers are all set, you can run  sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes
[05:53] <UnluckyMike> zedfloyd: you installed the nvidia-glx-new already?
[05:53] <hikyuu_> ati just cant support linux
[05:53] <MSTK> then beryl-manager &
[05:53] <SpeakerMania> I have a terible question that is bugging me, but no one will give me a straight answer.
[05:54] <Julius> hi, i'm trying to install the nm-applet... but I can't seem to get it to turn up in my panel... any ideas?
[05:54] <peepsalot> demonspork, you need non-free codecs installed.  i think there are instructions on ubuntuguide.org
[05:54] <yehweh> teethdood: I googed in to check and now Im stuck on yahoo with this guy I dont want to chat with :(
[05:54] <zedfloyd> mike, i dont know, i just enabled the nvidia drivers
[05:54] <wastrel> Julius:  i think you need the notification area
[05:54] <yehweh> I ment logged
[05:54] <teethdood> yehweh, hehe take one for the team
[05:55] <Julius> wastrel: tks will try it out...!
[05:55] <peepsalot> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_play_DVDs
[05:55] <SpeakerMania> Is it possible to build a driver for my winmodem? I used the utility from Linmodems and it said it wasn't. Is it possible?
[05:55] <zedfloyd> MSTK, what is sudo apt-get?? help
[05:55] <yehweh> lol yeah I guess
[05:55] <berent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18909/ can some one tell me why feisty is so problematic?
[05:55] <sanityx> Anybody know if you can get an equalize in Banshee?
[05:55] <peepsalot> SpeakerMania, i think what you want is ndiswrapper
[05:55] <Julius> wastrel: little ripper tks!
[05:55] <rummik> how do i rout joystick events to keyboard events?
[05:56] <SpeakerMania> @peepsalot: Can you give more detail?
[05:56] <berent> AGPGART and libGLcore problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18909/ can some one tell me why feisty is so problematic?
[05:56] <MSTK> zedfloyd - type it into the terminal.
[05:56] <cilaes> FEISTY: Toshiba Laptop, no sound. ANYTHING NEW ON THIS? seems like there is ZERO support on this issue
[05:56] <bullgard4> What means 'to seek' in regard with the program 'xine'?
[05:56] <hikyuu_> how i mine 4 fsh?
[05:56] <peepsalot> SpeakerMania, actually i might be wrong, ndiswrapper is mainly for wireless cards as I understand it, but what is does is it allows you to use windows drivers under linux
[05:56] <hikyuu_> >.>
[05:57] <SpeakerMania> I'll look into it.
[05:57] <crimsun> cilaes: huh?  There's plenty of support.  What's the issue?
[05:57] <SpeakerMania> Thanks, btw.
[05:57] <peepsalot> np
[05:57] <thelostpatrol> toshiba laptop here, plenty of support today for me
[05:57] <zedfloyd> MSTK... what is the terminal?
[05:57] <cilaes> crimsun: I've had zero support on this issue since I installed feisty on this laptop about a week ago. it's like everything is ignored. even some research seems like there is no fix
[05:58] <cilaes> crimsun, but anywho, no sound. whatsoever. IT detects the card, etc, but no sound.
[05:58] <crimsun> cilaes: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[05:58] <yehweh> zedfloyd: which version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:58] <MSTK> !terminal | zedfloyd
[05:58] <ubotu> zedfloyd: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:58] <zedfloyd> fiesty
[05:59] <SpeakerMania> I don't think ndiswrapper will work...
[05:59] <johnt> Hi Folks. Is there a way for me to get beryl-manager to start up on boot??
[05:59] <yehweh> you can enable desktop effects using the gui if you dont want use cli
[06:00] <berent> AGPGART and libGLcore problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18909/ can some one tell me why feisty is so problematic?
[06:00] <MSTK> johnt - yes.  System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[06:00] <rbil> johnt: just load beryl-manager in your sessions startup
[06:00] <MSTK> add beryl-manager as a startup program
[06:00] <SpeakerMania> okay, simpler question: Can I have GRUB boot to windows automatically instead of Ubuntu?
[06:00] <wobx> johnt: put beryl-manager into gnome -> system -> preferences -> sessions -> startup programs
[06:00] <SpeakerMania> The windows drive is HDD1 in BIOS; Linux is HDD2
[06:01] <AdamKili> ok. i need some serious help. We had a laptop w/ a broken motherboard and we bought a new one, but the one has issues. It seems like it doesn't have any bios loaded, and i can't find the bios online. Any suggestions on how to fix?
[06:01] <peepsalot> johnt, there you need to find "Session" settings in your menu and you can add it from there
[06:01] <cilaes> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/468469
[06:01] <SpeakerMania> AdamKili, completely unrelated to Ubuntu
[06:01] <zedfloyd> ok i found the terminal... now what do i need to do to get and instal beryl??
[06:01] <SpeakerMania> Unless you plan on running Ubuntu on it...
[06:02] <SpeakerMania> In which case I will gladdly help
[06:02] <johnt> Thanks all   resolved so easily :-)
[06:02] <Flannel> zedfloyd: #ubuntu-effects will get you all setup (check topic, if nothing else)
[06:02] <AdamKili> i do, speakermania
[06:02] <SpeakerMania> Alright. give me some specs on the computer you need the bios for.
[06:03] <SpeakerMania> AKA the motherboard type
[06:03] <blckcts> guys, do u know how to use a .cpp file? its a fix for a plugin i compiled earlier.
[06:03] <cilaes> blckcts: G++
[06:03] <AdamKili> it's a compaq presario v2000
[06:03] <blckcts> c++ u mean
[06:03] <peepsalot> AdamKili, i think a motherboard without bios is worthless, AFAIK you need a working BIOS to be able to install/update a new BIOS
[06:04] <kvidell> C#!
[06:04] <peepsalot> AdamKili, unless you swap out the physical chip
[06:04] <cilaes> blckcts: Right. G++ is a C++ compiler =] 
[06:04] <yehweh> lol
[06:04] <SpeakerMania> Looking for a chip right now dude.
[06:04] <cilaes> crimsun: did you take a look at that?
[06:04] <johnt> Another Q, if I may.. How do I change the name of my computer..
[06:04] <cilaes> blckcts: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:05] <MSTK> how would I add new sessions?
[06:05] <blckcts> so its not dependable on anything
[06:05] <SpeakerMania> 	Compaq Presario V2000~14.4" Brightview/DVD Burner, right?
[06:05] <peepsalot> johnt i think the command is just hostname
[06:05] <SpeakerMania> Mobile AMD Sempron Processor 3100++ 787 MHz, 224 MB RAM, etc
[06:06] <crimsun> cilaes: I'm busy w/ alsa ATM.  I'll look as soon as I can.
[06:06] <johnt> peepsalot: Just open the terminal And change the hostname ??
[06:06] <AdamKili> DVD drive: CD burner. and it currently has a Turion 64, but i also have a Sempron from the non-working motherboard
[06:06] <Flannel> !hostname | peepsalot, johnt
[06:06] <ubotu> peepsalot, johnt: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[06:06] <Punkunity> so i need an introduction to the computer underworld of bots, and unity
[06:07] <Parmenion> lol Punkunity
[06:07] <SpeakerMania> Give me the motherboard specs.
[06:07] <Punkunity> down with corporate america,
[06:07] <SpeakerMania> the new one
[06:07] <Punkunity> down with microsoft, and apple, and steve jobs, and bill gates
[06:07] <Punkunity> fags
[06:07] <Parmenion> !warn Punkunity
[06:07] <johnt> Thanks people :-)
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warn punkunity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <Punkunity> thx for all the headaches guys
[06:07] <peepsalot> !ohmy
[06:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:08] <Krondor> I tried visiting the FAQ but it doesn't seem to be loading for me.. Does anyone have a workaround for Flash 9 on 64 bit Ubuntu 7.04?
[06:08] <Parmenion> lol thanks peepsalot
[06:08] <Punkunity> parmenion whats up mna, im just kidding
[06:08] <Parmenion> i know, but the code of conduct Punkunity
[06:08] <Punkunity> oh the F word hahaha
[06:08] <abasinisvacant> i'm sure punkunity meant ''cigarette'
[06:08] <Parmenion> we must adhere to the code :P
[06:08] <Punkunity> man IRC is so sensitive with words....geeezz
[06:08] <Punkunity> no i meant a bundle of sticks
[06:08] <Parmenion> no matter how anal the code is .
[06:08] <cilaes> crimsun: just let me know. this has been an ignored problem for what it seems like EVERYONE since feisty has been released.
[06:08] <peepsalot> abasinisvacant, or a bundle of sticks
[06:08] <bimberi> !flash64 | Krondor (not sure if this applies to flash9 but worth a look)
[06:09] <ubotu> Krondor (not sure if this applies to flash9 but worth a look): You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:09] <abasinisvacant> peepsalot lol yeah
[06:09] <Parmenion> Punkunity: i think jobs is cool
[06:09] <catid> does anyone know of a good program like GetRight?  ie. one that downloads bits of the same file from several servers
[06:09] <Punkunity> yeah hes not too bad i guess
[06:09] <crimsun> cilaes: it's definitely not being ignored.  We just haven't fixed it correctly yet, and I'm not going to break everyone else's install.
[06:09] <Punkunity> just read an article about how the iPod came to be
[06:09] <SpeakerMania> Can I have GRUB boot to windows automatically instead of Ubuntu? The windows drive is HDD1 in BIOS; Linux is HDD2
[06:09] <blckcts> cilaes: so i just go to the directory and do a g++ name.cpp ?
[06:10] <AdamKili> SpeakerMania: what exactly do you need to know? I am NOT a hardware person. i deal in software
[06:10] <Punkunity> pretty good stuff in WIRED magazine Nov issue, also has a good article on Atheists
[06:10] <nightwonderer> anyone know why i dont see ubuntu 6.10 on the download page on the ubuntu site?
[06:10] <Parmenion> Punkunity: i love the ipod earphones .... they let me listen to my music at a softer volume
[06:10] <Flannel> SpeakerMania: yeah, edit grub menu to change the "default" to your windows
[06:10] <Krondor> bimberi:  Thanks that looks promising, though I don't like having to load 32bit firefox just for one plugin.. guess I can't be picky (argh Adobe fix your stuff).
[06:10] <peepsalot> catid, i think wget can do that, but it is not a fancy GUI program.  I just know that it can be very powerful if you8 know how to use it
[06:10] <Parmenion> nightwonderer: you have to select edgy manually
[06:10] <SpeakerMania> Can I edit GRUB to boot to the windows drive?
[06:10] <Parmenion> cant just choose downoad
[06:10] <Parmenion> SpeakerMania: yes
[06:10] <Punkunity> i cant get feisty to see my iPod Nano, it only sees the shuffle..
[06:10] <bimberi> Krondor: np :)
[06:10] <catid> peepsalot: not so sure of that, but i'll look
[06:10] <SpeakerMania> How would I do that?
[06:10] <nightwonderer> how u do that m8?
[06:11] <cilaes> crimsun: So what's the word? Soon? Can I downgrade or anything? I hope reinstalling windows isn't my only choice for immediatesound...
[06:11] <Parmenion> Punkunity: theres a module for it .... search for gipod
[06:11] <Black_Mask> MoLE_: it worked :)
[06:11] <Parmenion> or use kde's amaroK
[06:11] <Parmenion> that has built in ipod support
[06:11] <Parmenion> i use gnomad2 for my Creative Zen V Plus
[06:11] <Punkunity> got nothing on that parmenion
[06:11] <Krondor> one last question, I have an NVidia 8800 GTS and I already found the thread about the NVidia driver bug with libwfb, but outside of X bootsplash won't work.  It does on the 32 bit live CD so maybe it's a 64bit issue.  Anyone seen this?
[06:11] <Parmenion> amaroK ?
[06:11] <Black_Mask> amarok has support for psp too
[06:11] <Parmenion> that has built in support for the pod
[06:11] <Punkunity> well i got one return on google but i cant read jap parmenion
[06:12] <Parmenion> lol :P
[06:12] <nightwonderer> how do u select it manual
[06:12] <Krondor> I heart Amarok!
[06:12] <Parmenion> search in synaptic
[06:12] <nightwonderer> i dont see where to
[06:12] <catid> peepsalot: no wget does not appear to be able to do that
[06:12] <_7E6h> i'm booted into a regular ubuntu installation; i also have the boot/install ubuntu cd in my drive..  can i just start an installation from here, or do i have to actually boot the cd to do it?
[06:12] <Parmenion> system->admin-> synaptic package manager
[06:12] <Punkunity> amarok doesnt really work all that well, but it does see the shuffle just not the nano parmenion
[06:12] <Black_Mask> amarok is life!
[06:12] <SpeakerMania> How would I edit GRUB?
[06:12] <rummik> how do i use a joypad as the arrow keys on a keyboard?
[06:12] <Parmenion> Punkunity: O.o
[06:12] <nightwonderer> Laughing Out Loud i dont have edgy so no synaptic
[06:12] <SpeakerMania> hotwire it baby
[06:12] <Parmenion> ill go check with my own nano
[06:12] <Punkunity> i got a better psp prog black_mask
[06:12] <Punkunity> ??? parmenion
[06:12] <Flannel> nightwonderer: Synaptic is on all versions
[06:13] <Parmenion> actually my sisters ... but hey who cares :P eh Punkunity
[06:13] <Black_Mask> Punkunity: such as?
[06:13] <MSTK> does anyone know of a CLI text editor that supports simple RTF? (uinderline, bold...)
[06:13] <Flannel> SpeakerMania: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:13] <Punkunity> PSPVC
[06:13] <Black_Mask> lol
[06:13] <AdamKili> peepsalot: i think swapping the BIOS chip is the best option I have right now. How can I tell which one it is? there seems to be a few chips that are swappable
[06:13] <Punkunity> balck_mask
[06:13] <demonspork> How do I play DVDs on Ubuntu?  instructions from ubuntuguide.org did not accomplish my goal
[06:13] <SpeakerMania> I'll poston the ubuntu forums, thanks!
[06:13] <Black_Mask> pspvc is old news to me :|
[06:13] <Lilacor> demonspork: what are you currently trying to use to play DVDs?
[06:13] <Flannel> !dvd | demonspork
[06:13] <ubotu> demonspork: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:13] <Punkunity> i dont even own an ipod guys, ive been using linux for a week now
[06:14] <Parmenion> Punkunity: whoot =) me too Punkunity
[06:14] <Flannel> demonspork: thats because ubuntuguide isn't the official documentation, the official wiki is much better
[06:14] <Lilacor> _7E6h: you should be able to boot the CD to start the installation
[06:14] <Punkunity> oh is amarok that much better black_mask ?
[06:14] <Parmenion> actually its been an on and off dalliance over the past four years
[06:14] <phy3> !vmware
[06:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:14] <demonspork> Flannel I tried those instructions as well
[06:14] <demonspork> Flannel they didn't work for me :(
[06:14] <RobbieCrash> I have a 4gb fat16 partition that I cannot resize, and would like to avoid having to format straight out because of the data I have on it. Is there any way to force ubuntu to mount it so that I can view the data, get it off, and then partition it to 2gb instead of 4?
[06:14] <AdamKili> peepsalot: u there?
[06:15] <Punkunity> i have VMware too, but they dont see the nano, maybe cause i have the wrong connection, but it says it is charging, but its an FM thingy
[06:15] <RobbieCrash> Or alternatively, to convert it to fat32
[06:15] <crimsun> cilaes: if you can believe it, I'm actually at work, so some patience is greatly appreciated.
[06:15] <_7E6h> Lilacor: i know that i can boot from the cd; id prefer not to reboot if i can just do it from here;  im installing to another partition (which is not currently mounted or in use)
[06:15] <punsad> I've got a new compaq v6000z with broadcom wireless chip.  will this work 'automagically' with ubuntu?
[06:15] <Flannel> demonspork: what didn't work about them?  What have you tried so far? etc
[06:15] <peepsalot> AdamKili, i'm here, but I don't nkow anything about swapping BIOS chips, sorry
[06:15] <SlickMcRunfast> How would I install gnome on a lamp server?
[06:15] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: it should automagically work
[06:15] <Parmenion> punsad: sadly ... no
[06:15] <punsad> or do I need to download drivers and use ndiswrapper
[06:15] <Parmenion> punsad: yes
[06:15] <Flannel> SlickMcRunfast: install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[06:15] <punsad> sounds like I need to download then
[06:15] <RobbieCrash> Parmenion fat16 shouldn't be able to be more than 2gb
[06:15] <AdamKili> peepsalot: ok thanks for the suggestion. I think i may be able to figure it out. I'll try.
[06:16] <demonspork> I tried the instructions that ubotu gave a link t
[06:16] <demonspork> to
[06:16] <Black_Mask> Punkunity: all i know is that whenever i plug in my ipod or psp under KDE, amarok automatically detects both of them and loads media files into its playlists. It's like itunes. but itunes in windows supports ipod only whereas amarok does and will support many more devices in near future
[06:16] <MoLE_> Black_Mask, great - well done
[06:16] <SlickMcRunfast> Flannel: So sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[06:16] <punsad> I've got xp pro on another partition... I should be able to find them there I suppose
[06:16] <peepsalot> AdamKili, why do you think it has no BIOS?  what does it do on boot?
[06:16] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: no idea then ..... maybe try backing up via thumbdrive ?
[06:16] <Parmenion> and moving it to another box
[06:16] <Flannel> SlickMcRunfast: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:16] <Black_Mask> MoLE_: yeah thanks :) now frostwire is working :)
[06:16] <SlickMcRunfast> Flannel; Thanks
[06:16] <SpeakerMania> Yeah, I cn't find any chips.
[06:16] <Parmenion> Black_Mask: what happened to your frostwire ?
[06:17] <Punkunity> black_mask i use feisty but i have KDE does amarok work better in KDE?? KDE keeps having problems, and its alot like windows..
[06:17] <demonspork> Flannel, I used both the Gstreamer and Xine versions of Totem, VLC, some other random one that I just decided to install to test some more
[06:17] <RobbieCrash> Parmenion, I can't view the data, so I can't back it up. If I could pull the data off the drive, I'd have no problem backing it up.
[06:17] <Flannel> SlickMcRunfast: also, if you're planning on using it as a regular desktop, you'll want to switch to the desktop kernel from the server kernel, otherwise you may experience a bit of unresponsiveness in the mouse
[06:17] <RobbieCrash> Or formating it after
[06:17] <demonspork> and nothing worked with a DVD
[06:17] <Punkunity> thx black_mask for the help on Linux Enlightenment
[06:17] <Flannel> demonspork: did you install libdvdcss?
[06:17] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: you wiped windows off it without backing it up ?
[06:17] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: um.. osrry dumb qn
[06:18] <crimsun> cilaes: I've just committed the fix for that.
[06:18] <demonspork> Flannel I don't know, I am installing KDE so I can't get into synaptic to check
[06:18] <Punkunity> parmenion i did the same thing about a week and a half ago, linux wrote over the top of XP i lost 120GB of picturwes and music
[06:18] <crimsun> cilaes: you'll likely need model=auto, too.
[06:18] <AdamKili> peepsalot: the power light comes on, and keyboard indicator LEDs (caps, scroll lock, etc) flash. the screen does not power up, and also the DVD LED flashes. nothing else
[06:18] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: try getting to view it through a livecd
[06:18] <Punkunity> ive told crimsum he kinda laughed
[06:18] <Black_Mask> Parmenion: it was crashing under sun java 5. so i removed 5 and replaced it with sun java 6 but after installing the later, the command 'java' in terminal outputted "bash:java:command not found", which was fixed by typing sudo update-alternatives --config java and selecting the appropriate java from the options provided in the terminal. (credits MoLE_)
[06:18] <crimsun> Punkunity: ...?
[06:18] <rr72> how do i get apache working with upnp? whats a good ftp server and can it use upnp?
[06:18] <Flannel> demonspork: Well, after youre done, check.  If you dont know, then most likely you haven't, which is why nothign works, you dont have the codec
[06:18] <Punkunity> bryan_666 aka
[06:19] <Punkunity> crimsum
[06:19] <Parmenion> Punkunity: you should have known better before doing a manual install :P
[06:19] <RobbieCrash> Parmenion it's not a windows drive, it's a 4gb sd card, that I screwed up formatting before and now I've got a gig and a half of pictures on it that I don't want to lose.
[06:19] <Parmenion> Black_Mask: thanks ... i'll look into it myself... having frostwire problems myself
[06:19] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: Oh!
[06:19] <cilaes> crimsun: Sorry for the rush, I know what it's like. I've heard something about model=auto, where do I configure that? and when will the fix take place guestimate?
[06:19] <Punkunity> i tried doing a dual boot with partition magic parmenion but ubuntu started doing retarted partitioning of its own
[06:19] <demonspork> I have been copying and pasting code, a few lines at a time, so It may have been in there somewhere
[06:19] <crimsun> cilaes: I'm not in charge of releasing kernels, so I don't have an ETA.
[06:19] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: i dont really see how your going to back themup save going to a friend's house and transfering
[06:20] <Punkunity> parmenion what kind of file system partition do you have linux installed on
[06:20] <RobbieCrash> So nobody knows a way to force it to mount, or to pull the data off?
[06:20] <Parmenion> Punkunity: reiserfs
[06:20] <crimsun> cilaes: you need the one-line fix and modprobe -r snd_hda_intel && modprobe snd_hda_intel model=auto
[06:20] <Punkunity> parmenion what the heck is that man\
[06:20] <peepsalot> catid, oh, there is a firefox extension called flashgot that I think does what you want
[06:20] <demonspork> lol, installing Konversation as I speak as part of KDE
[06:20] <Black_Mask> Punkunity: that's what i have encountered too. sometimes (well, most of the times I would prefet to say) amarok would crash in gnome. But in kDE it works faster and doesn't ever crash
[06:21] <RobbieCrash> Parmenion I've got a copy of the partition, but I can't mount that either. I've got all the data. But I need a way to view it
[06:21] <Punkunity> parmenion i have ubuntu on an NTFS file system
[06:21] <Monty_> is anyone having problems with installing 7.04? i am booting off the cd and it never gets to the desktop
[06:21] <SlickMcRunfast> How long should the ubuntu-desktop install take?
[06:21] <Parmenion> Punkunity: :P a filesystem which you can choose when you do a manual partiioning
[06:21] <Punkunity> TY Black_Mask
[06:21] <rr72> !tell me about upnp
[06:21] <AdamKili> peepsalot: since the DVD LED flashes, it seems having a CD with a BIOS file on it would let it boot and fix itself. what do you think?
[06:21] <Flannel> Monty_: did you verify the CD? (check it for defects)
[06:21] <Parmenion> Punkunity: !?! how ?
[06:21] <rr72> !tell me about ftp
[06:21] <Monty_> yes - before i burned it
[06:21] <cilaes> crimsun: will i have to do this in term only mode or is there a more simple way to fix the FATAL: snd_hda_intel is in use
[06:21] <Punkunity> I do not even know but I can prove it if you wish parmenion, i thought it was a little wierd too
[06:21] <AdamKili> rr72: try typing just !ftp
[06:21] <AdamKili> !ftp
[06:21] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:21] <Flannel> Monty_: No no.  That's checking the md5.  You also need to check (using the option on the boot menu) that the CD burned correctly
[06:22] <Parmenion> RobbieCrash: Cruddlets ... Im not that well-versed yes ... sorry =(
[06:22] <rr72> AdamKili~ i want it in pm
[06:22] <Parmenion> Punkunity: nice =)
[06:22] <Monty_> ah - let me try that.... brbr
[06:22] <crimsun> cilaes: you won't get it working without a module recompile.
[06:22] <Flannel> rr72: so, message ubotu, and he'll reply in PM
[06:22] <RobbieCrash> Parmenion no problem
[06:22] <rr72> !pure-ftpd > me
[06:22] <peepsalot> catid, actually flashgot itself is not a download manager but is made to be used in conjunction with one, the page lists some for linux: (Aria, cURL, Downloader 4 X, GNOME Gwget and KDE KGet, wxDFast )
[06:22] <hikyuu_> hmmm, cedegas not even running installs anymore..
[06:22] <RobbieCrash> I have a 4gb fat16 partition that I cannot resize, and would like to avoid having to format straight out because of the data I have on it. Is there any way to force ubuntu to mount it so that I can view the data, get it off, and then partition it to 2gb instead of 4?
[06:22] <AdamKili> rr72: i don't know the text command to PM someone, but on my IRC client, i can just right-click on their username in this list, and PM them
[06:23] <Punkunity> Black_Mask KDE is the one that keeps crashing Gnome never does, Konqueror crashes, and KDE always tells me that it just recovered from a serious crash when i switch to it from Gnome
[06:23] <Flannel> RobbieCrash: Why can't you mount it?  You shouldn't have to force anything
[06:23] <rr72> AdamKili~ please don't tell me about irc
[06:23] <drew> AdamKili: /msg namehere texthere
[06:23] <Parmenion> lol Punkunity .. then stick to Gnome :P
[06:23] <peepsalot> AdamKili, i really don't think it is possible to boot in any way if you have no BIOS
[06:23] <dyoz>  how do you check your ubuntu version from the command line?
[06:23] <rr72> anyone suggest any ftp servers?
[06:23] <AdamKili> thanks drew sorry rr72
[06:23] <Flannel> dyoz: lsb_release -a
[06:23] <Parmenion> anyone has a good bunch of bash aliases?
[06:23] <rr72> AdamKili~ np
[06:24] <dyoz> what if its from an image on a VPS
[06:24] <Parmenion> i need to make my console life easier
[06:24] <dyoz> it doesn't seem to be working for me
[06:24] <Punkunity> why arent these OS' stable at all when they are expected to be pre-installed at Dell and other companies, anyone???
[06:24] <cilaes> crimsun: Right, I understand that; but the modprobe... I've tried that before and it gave me the same error. will i need to be in console only?
[06:24] <philwhln> limaunion. for copying a partition, do I need to use dd if both partitions are ext3 and on the same disk?
[06:24] <Parmenion> Punkunity: they actually are
[06:24] <Parmenion> much better than windows by far !
[06:24] <RobbieCrash> Flannel because it's a 4gb fat16 partition, which means it's got a max partition size of 2gb
[06:24] <Punkunity> XP never screwed up THAT badly in the 6 yrs or whatever that I have had it, only had HUGE virus problenms
[06:25] <catid> peepsalot: most of those don't do what i want, but wxdfast does
[06:25] <rr72> what ftp server do people recommend?
[06:25] <Black_Mask> punkunity the OEM versions of 'those' OSs (LOL) are gonna come 'prestabled' :P 'cause dell doesnt ship products without rigorously testing 'em
[06:25] <Punkunity> i guess you gotta give up to get up ay
[06:25] <Parmenion> Punkunity: no bsods to be sure ... but please malware, viruses, privacy issues
[06:25] <catid> peepsalot: i found the same pages you were looking at i think :)
[06:25] <Chav3s> Hi. Are there more games like wesnoth ?
[06:25] <Parmenion> not to mention stupid crap bugs
[06:25] <Punkunity> that where i was getting to Black_mask, did you know that the CEO of Dell uses Ubuntu as his PRIMARY OS?
[06:25] <Flannel> rr72: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html  recommends vsftpd
[06:26] <rr72> ty Flannel
[06:26] <Parmenion> Punkunity: yah
[06:26] <Black_Mask> punk yeah he uses 7.04 feisty
[06:26] <Flannel> !offtopic | Punkunity, Black_Mask
[06:26] <ubotu> Punkunity, Black_Mask: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:26] <Punkunity> RIGHJT!!!
[06:26] <Black_Mask> i have learn that from digg
[06:26] <Black_Mask> *learnt
[06:26] <Dabian> Chav3s: There are games.
[06:26] <Parmenion> :P Black_Mask same
[06:26] <disinterested> punkitty so does google
[06:26] <Parmenion> XD
[06:26] <rr72> Flannel~ do u know if thats possible to use upnp with that and why is that for 6.10?
[06:26] <Punkunity> Flannel !bye
[06:26] <Parmenion> lol, brb guys
[06:26] <crimsun> cilaes: no, you can use  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*)
[06:26] <Black_Mask> brb
[06:26] <Dabian> Chav3s: I dont remember wesnot very well.
[06:26] <Hentai_jeff> Punk:right now ubuntu/linux in general is the better OS, if you know what you're doing that is
[06:27] <disinterested> sorry punkunity
[06:27] <Punkunity> disinterested?
[06:27] <z0rz> I have an ATI X800 and I installed the ati drivers, and now I get a blank screen when I boot and for some reason I can't get to a terminal
[06:27] <Hentai_jeff> Windows is still better for the normal consumer
[06:27] <Chav3s> Dabian, it's a rpg, I guess. Battle for Wesnoth
[06:27] <disinterested> google uses ubuntu for their os too
[06:27] <Punkunity> windows isnt really better, just has alot more stuff added to it
[06:27] <Punkunity> people like stuff
[06:27] <drew> z0rz: i use x850xt, never heared of that problem.. you can't get to any terminal at all?
[06:27] <catid> peepsalot: ha.  but of course the only download manager that does what i need has bugs that makes it crash
[06:28] <rbil> Punkunity: didn't you read ubuto's message to you?
[06:28] <Punkunity> disinterested whats up man with the sorry?
[06:28] <peepsalot> catid, lol, sorry
[06:28] <disinterested> all windows has going for it is the plug and play
[06:28] <ste-foy> what is the best charset fot this network ?
[06:28] <blake__> Is Ubuntu the most powerful operating system every created?
[06:28] <Hentai_jeff> blake:hell no
[06:28] <disinterested> i spelled ur name incorrectly
[06:28] <drew> blake__: no =\
[06:28] <Punkunity> rbil yeah and?
[06:28] <rr72> blake__~ its all a matter of opinoin
[06:28] <Hentai_jeff> if you get technical that is unix
[06:28] <cilaes> disinterested: which in some cases is even BETTER in Ubuntu.
[06:28] <rbil> Punkunity: well please follow it
[06:28] <blake__> No, it's a matter of fact.
[06:29] <disinterested> oh no doubt
[06:29] <Punkunity> i did come here for help and so far i got a bunch, sorry if i started talkinng for 5 minutes...geez
[06:29] <blake__> Windows is trusted by the US Government and is superior to the bug of Linux.
[06:29] <AdamKili> well, thanks peepsalot, drew, & SpeakerMania. Methinks i will just return the motherboard for a refund because the guy said it "worked 100%"
[06:29] <Hentai_jeff> otherwise why would there be so many derivatives of it
[06:29] <peepsalot> AdamKili, you sure it is not a monitor issue?
[06:29] <AdamKili> see you later
[06:29] <Monty_> ok - i ran the cd check and got "no errors found"
[06:29] <rr72> !troll > blake__
[06:29] <demonspork> How do you guys think Ubuntu would run on a 2.Ghz core 2 duo and a GeForce 8800GTS?
[06:29] <Hentai_jeff> blake:and we're talking about a governmant that can't do anything since Regan
[06:29] <Punkunity> rbil check it man, just leave me alone, im not gonna sit here for 20 minutes off topic
[06:30] <hikyuu_> mmmm, wow is installing tho :3
[06:30] <demonspork> 2.4Ghz**
[06:30] <blake__> thats anti-american
[06:30] <blake__> GO FUCK URSELF
[06:30] <blake__> I LOVE AMERICA
[06:30] <blake__> I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!
[06:30] <rr72> !ohmy | blake__
[06:30] <ubotu> blake__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <AdamKili> peepsalot: pretty sure. the monitor worked before, and it just sits there with those LEDs flashing, not doing anything else
[06:30] <condor> hola pistolones
[06:30] <hikyuu_> i think im just going to try and reinstall BF2142
[06:30] <blake__> !ohmy | rr72
[06:30] <ubotu> rr72: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <condor> i am latin american motherfucker
[06:30] <kitche> !ops
[06:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[06:30] <blake__> !ohmy | condor
[06:30] <ubotu> condor: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <disinterested> i dont believe there will ever be a best operating system just cause everyone has the stuff they think is the best on their favorite os and company's wont combine the best features into one os
[06:30] <rr72> !coc > bla
[06:31] <Chav3s> Sincerely If it wasnt for security issues, the crashes and the problem of privacy, Windows would be the best
[06:31] <rr72> wtg nixternal!
[06:31] <Hentai_jeff> thanks mad
[06:31] <nixternal> thanks Madpilot
[06:31] <hikyuu_> hehee
[06:31] <Punkunity> someone should boot blake__ too
[06:31] <crimsun> argh.
[06:31] <crimsun> what is the deal with the lowlifes tonight?
[06:31] <hikyuu_> boot me :D.... wait..
[06:32] <hikyuu_> lol
[06:32] <Shrimpy_> blake left
[06:32] <z0rz> ahh, I hate this set up. Drew, yeah I can't get to a terminal at all... What's the keyboard shortcut? Ctrl+Alt+2?
[06:32] <rr72> wtg Madpilot
[06:32] <disinterested> chav3s if windows had a os that didnt do those things it wouldnt be windows
[06:32] <Punkunity> hikyuu_ hahahaaa
[06:32] <Madpilot> Punkunity, blake was remvoed.
[06:32] <Monty_> ok - i ran the cd check and got "no errors found" and am trying to boot from the cd again - once it gets past the ubuntu screen - things go down hill
[06:32] <crimsun> haven't gotten enough of Vista or something that they have to troll #ubuntu?
[06:32] <Punkunity> rad madpilot
[06:32] <hikyuu_> shhhh...
[06:32] <hikyuu_> you hear that?
[06:32] <hikyuu_> >.>
[06:32] <Chav3s> disintesrested, you are right :-)
[06:32] <hikyuu_> its monkeydancintime!!!!
[06:32] <hikyuu_> -dances like a monkey-
[06:32] <Punkunity> so i have a real problem with ubuntu right now to be ON topic
[06:33] <vbabiy> it sure isn't so easy to get help here huh?
[06:33] <rr72> i have to remember to call ops
[06:33] <orehon> Anyone using snd-hda-intel (alsa driver) in laptop?
[06:33] <crimsun> orehon: yes.
[06:33] <Hentai_jeff> on topic? there's a such thing?
[06:33] <disinterested> besides if u want snails pace no matter how fast ur internet connection is get windows
[06:33] <Shrimpy_> orehon: yuppres
[06:33] <waeoo> Ah, not on a notebook.
[06:33] <hikyuu_> -watched Invader Zim, sorry-
[06:33] <Parmenion> vbabiy: not really ... what's the problem ?
[06:33] <peepsalot> z0rz, Ctrl-Alt-F1,  or other function key below 7 i think
[06:33] <vbabiy> well i still can't get CIFS to halt my boot
[06:33] <Madpilot> Hentai_jeff, here in #ubuntu, we try to keep things on topic. If you want random wibbling, #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <vbabiy> if i am going to be using wireless
[06:34] <hikyuu_> lol
[06:34] <hikyuu_> i have Dragonforces Demo :3
[06:34] <Parmenion> you want to stop booting ?
[06:34] <CaptainMorgan> What does it mean when I get the error message: "The composite extension is not available." when trying to open Desktop Effects ?
[06:34] <hikyuu_> damn, they were good even before studio
[06:34] <Punkunity> i cannot seem to get the sound to BLAST like it was, but at least it works now, but I would like to BLAST it like I could when I had windblows
[06:34] <Parmenion> vbabiy: what's the card's manufacturer ... the wireless card
[06:34] <vbabiy> no Parmenion if i am on wireless it takes for ever to boot
[06:34] <demonspork> where do I get libdvdcss?
[06:34] <vbabiy> Parmenion: Linksys
[06:34] <Punkunity> join/ #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <hikyuu_> get awesome speakers? >.> *my sound works fine on Ubunutu-
[06:34] <crimsun> !mediubuntu >demonspork
[06:34] <Shrimpy_> crimsun: i switched xserver-video-i810-modesetting to the "-video-intel" and it is a lot better like you said.
[06:35] <crimsun> probably medibuntu, but whatever.
[06:35] <orehon> crimsun, Do you have your internal microphone working?
[06:35] <Parmenion> vbabiy: its because its doing dhcp offers to all the aps in your area
[06:35] <crimsun> orehon: yes.
[06:35] <Parmenion> one moment vbabiy
[06:35] <orehon> Shrimpy_, same to you!
[06:35] <orehon> crimsun, how?
[06:35] <Punkunity> there we go, god im dumb sometimes
[06:35] <crimsun> orehon: I just use it.
[06:35] <Punkunity> !ipod
[06:35] <hikyuu_> oh noes, a mac product!
[06:35] <hikyuu_> :x
[06:35] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:35] <vbabiy> ok Parmenion
[06:35] <orehon> crimsun, what is the driver version
[06:36] <demonspork> !mediaubuntu >demonspork
[06:36] <Chav3s> Punkunity, I'm waiting for the day we'll have the best of the two worlds. Security and Stability of Ubuntu and Graphics and Sound of Windows
[06:36] <orehon> crimsun,  o.O I have here one HP DV 2120! And i can not use my internal microphone
[06:36] <vbabiy> but Parmenion how is that the case it it doesn't have a wep or WPA key yet
[06:36] <ShADoW_LnX> Hi, anyone can tell me how i can zoom out the cube when rotate=? (Feisty)
[06:36] <hikyuu_> heh.. i dont use an ipod.. i have a car MP3 player thank you >.>
[06:36] <hikyuu_> lol
[06:36] <orehon> crimsun, what is your LAPTOP?
[06:36] <Tom47> what do i do to download source code?
[06:36] <demonspork> Crimsun, that doesn't tell me anything?
[06:36] <Punkunity> ok so does anyone know how to fix my sound problem i am having here in this Linux place?
[06:36] <Parmenion> vbabiy: its pinging them for offers
[06:36] <vbabiy> o i see
[06:36] <Alonea> Does Ark put back together split .rar files?
[06:36] <Shrimpy_> shaDoW_LnX: press   Ctrl Alt and move the mouse
[06:36] <crimsun> demonspork: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:36] <cilaes> Punkunity: specifics?
[06:37] <vbabiy> Parmenion:  any easy fix
[06:37] <vbabiy> or fix
[06:37] <Punkunity> chav3s i know man, but i still need to learn how to use this linux stuff, linux is like an underground world of hacker hippies to me
[06:37] <Shrimpy_> shaDoW_LnX: and you need a left click lol
[06:37] <Parmenion> one second .. trying to remember what i did :P
[06:37] <Punkunity> cilaes on what?
[06:37] <vbabiy> o ok Parmenion
[06:37] <crimsun> orehon: I use a conexant hda codec, just like you.  Mine works because the pins are initialised correctly.  It's a DV6205US.
[06:37] <cilaes> Punkunity: your sound problems...
[06:37] <orehon> crimsun,  Can you help me to config it ?
[06:37] <rbil> Punkunity: in a terminal run .... alsamixer and play with that
[06:37] <disinterested> chav3s what u dont like ubuntu?
[06:38] <Tom47> i want to look at source code of scanbuttond ... how do i do that?
[06:38] <ShADoW_LnX> Shrimpy_: yes but i can zoom out? like in beryl? the cube is so near the screen, i want a cube far away.
[06:38] <Chav3s> I like. That's why I'm puting here my opinion. Because I really like and I want it to have the both of two worlds
[06:39] <g0ow> i just tried to install beryl everything was going good...then i restarted the xserver, and configured everything...now i can't do desktop effects, and everything seem's bigger almost like it's in a safe mode?
[06:39] <disinterested> shadow_lnx zooming out is under desktop in beryl settings
[06:39] <Parmenion> guys, whats the file which determines what modules are loaded at boot time?
[06:39] <vbabiy> Parmenion: is it the blacklist
[06:39] <rr72> !night
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about night - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Shrimpy_> shaDoW_LnX: sorry the built in effects don't have much to offer. if you want that feature you need berly sorry
[06:39] <rr72> @morse good night
[06:39] <ubotu> --. --- --- -..   -. .. --. .... -
[06:39] <ShADoW_LnX> disinterested: im trying to do that on compiz, the one default on Feisty.
[06:39] <Tom47> !source
[06:39] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[06:39] <UnluckyMike> blacklist is to stop certain modules
[06:39] <Parmenion> vbabiy: its to blacklist specific drivers ... what you need to do is to stop interfaces
[06:40] <g0ow> i just tried to install beryl everything was going good...then i restarted the xserver, and configured everything...now i can't do desktop effects, and everything seem's bigger almost like it's in a safe mode?anyone know how to fix this?
[06:40] <Parmenion> specifically your wireless interface
[06:40] <disinterested> im not sure if compiz does zoom out
[06:40] <disinterested> ?
[06:40] <vbabiy> Parmenion:  o ok
[06:40] <boni> hello
[06:40] <ShADoW_LnX> Shrimpy_: ok, only want to know if is posible in compiz..
[06:40] <boni> I need help installing a visioneer scanner
[06:41] <Flannel> g0ow: ask in #ubuntu-effects, they're the beryl gurus
[06:41] <Parmenion> whats the file which determines the network interfaces being started at boot-time
[06:41] <Shrimpy_> shaDoW_LnX: mmm not sure, never used it much.
[06:41] <Alonea> ummm...I guess ark doesn't...anyone know how to extract one of those split up rar files or get winrar in linux? (when I tried in ark, said something about a -CRC failed)
[06:41] <UnluckyMike> Parmenion: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:41] <ShADoW_LnX> Shrimpy_: ok thank you!
[06:42] <Shrimpy_> shaDoW_LnX: no problem
[06:42] <boni> are u aware of any compatible scanner that can use the same drivers?
[06:42] <Parmenion> UnluckyMike: if i deleted an interface off there .. could i restart it after i login ?
[06:42] <UnluckyMike> Parmenion: just comment the interface out
[06:43] <orehon> crimsun, Could you give me a hand?
[06:43] <UnluckyMike> Parmenion: put a # in front of the line you want removed
[06:43] <Parmenion> UnluckyMike: would a "/etc/network/interfaces restart" restart the interfaces ?
[06:43] <UnluckyMike> that way you can undo it easier
[06:43] <UnluckyMike> not
[06:43] <cilaes> orehon, Don't ask to ask a question, and don't ask indirectly.
[06:43] <UnluckyMike> no
[06:43] <Parmenion> ok thanks mike =)
[06:43] <Parmenion> vbabiy: whats your wireless interface ?
[06:44] <orehon> cilaes, i was talking with crimsun 10 minute ago
[06:44] <vbabiy> well to be honest its wlan0 sometimes and others its eth1 Parmenion
[06:44] <orehon> cilaes, relax!
[06:44] <UnluckyMike> Parmenion: what kind of card do you have?
[06:44] <rbil> Parmenion: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:45] <g0ow> i can't enable the desktop effects...anyone know how to fix this?
[06:45] <Parmenion> ok vbabiy in your terminal do a "sudo gedit /etc/network/interface" then use "#" to comment out your wirelss interface
[06:45] <catid> peepsalot: whew!  finally found a decent one.  it's called aria2 and supports segmented downloading and bittorrent downloading on the commandline just like wget
[06:45] <Parmenion> UnluckyMike: Broadcom 1390 Wlan rev 01
[06:45] <hikyuu_> only i could crash WoW
[06:45] <hikyuu_> lol
[06:45] <hikyuu_> x.x
[06:46] <Parmenion> lol hikyuu_
[06:46] <hikyuu_> it just stopped working, had to reset the bottle
[06:46] <hikyuu_> -using crossover for WoW-
[06:46] <peepsalot> catid, glad you found what you're looking for ;-)
[06:46] <hikyuu_> honestly, if i get WoW, SL, and BF2142 running, im happy
[06:46] <Parmenion> lol, even though my linux bootup is slower than windows ... i can get started much faster than on windows
[06:46] <vbabiy> ok Parmenion
[06:47] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: cadega can run them..quite well
[06:47] <Parmenion> vbabiy: thank UnluckyMike :P He just told me what to do =)
[06:47] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: apparently not XD since it wont start BF2142
[06:47] <vbabiy> thanks UnluckyMike
[06:47] <UnluckyMike> hikyu_: I have bf2142 installed just fine...I think it is actually officially supported
[06:47] <Shrimpy_> cedega is not the best but they are working hard lol
[06:48] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: i get a white window, and then the process stops
[06:48] <vbabiy> so what excalty will thi do
[06:48] <Parmenion> vbabiy: during bootup , your wireless interface will not load
[06:48] <lord_aubade> You can't distribute space from a logical partition to a primary and vice-verse?
[06:48] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: i get a white window, and then the process stops
[06:48] <d3lf> yop ;)
[06:48] <Monty_> more info - i tried booting the cd for 7.04 on  different computer and it started up fine
[06:48] <vbabiy> Parmenion: so what will i have to do to boot it
[06:49] <lord_aubade> Not without deleting the extended partition anyhow.
[06:49] <Parmenion> sudo ifup eth1 should work ...
[06:49] <Monty_> the computer i am having problems with is a dell inspiron with at p3 in it
[06:49] <xevox> someone can give me a joost invitation? please i want to see free tv n_______n
[06:49] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: im going to try reinstalling it, but i dont know whats wrong
[06:49] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: thats strange...
[06:49] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: you're telling me :P
[06:50] <UnluckyMike> i had to disable some of the eye-candy but it was running at 60+ fps
[06:50] <Parmenion> exactly what is joost ?
[06:50] <ltracy> hey.. why would make-kpkg make 2.6.21 vanilla if I was in the directory tree for 2.6.20-ubuntu?
[06:50] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: aggrivating comes to mind first tho
[06:50] <Monty_> has anyone else had problems installing with 7.04?
[06:50] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: i couldnt even get to that point
[06:50] <Monty_> especially on older hardware?
[06:50] <hikyuu_> lol
[06:50] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: did you check the extra settings to configure with cadega?
[06:50] <ltracy> Or is that possible?  I had /usr/src/linux pointing to the linux-sources-2.6.20, and in /usr/src/linux and hit make-kpkg and uname -r shows 2.6.21-custom
[06:51] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: specified WinXP
[06:51] <Shrimpy_> Monty_: what type of problems are you having  (that way people will help you_
[06:51] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu: put in a support ticket to the website...they should support it
[06:51] <Monty_> the machine boots off the cd - gets past the ubuntu screens and then hangs
[06:51] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: thats all it said i think
[06:51] <Monty_> the cd will boot on a different machine
[06:52] <Shrimpy_> Monty: how old is your machine?
[06:52] <Monty_> old - it is a dell inspiron 5000e with a p3 in it (laptop)
[06:53] <Monty_> i had no problems with 6.1
[06:53] <ltracy> Is anybody here familiar with the workings of make-kpkg?
[06:53] <UnluckyMike> Monty_: age shouldn't matter I have feisty on the ORIGINAL celeron for a computer for my father in laq
[06:53] <UnluckyMike> law
[06:54] <Alonea> ok, I am not very familiar with archive files, but I am trying to put this rar file back together and I am getting a CRC failed. What does that mean?
[06:55] <robert98374> hello everyone!
[06:55] <Monty_> ok - i think i am will try to go back to 6.1 and then upgrade
[06:55] <Shrimpy_> ahoy robert98374
[06:55] <ltracy> ugh
[06:55] <Chav3s> Hey guys. You are doing a great job! I wish that hardware companies ( sound, video cards ...) would give you all more respect because cooperating towards the Goal of Real Freedom, Privacy, Stability and... most of all , bringing back to EVERYONE the fun of Computers. Do you want to be rich? Work for it! don't steal !
[06:55] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: heh.. well, i would... but um...
[06:55] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: naughty naughty
[06:56] <robert98374> anyone know much about wine?
[06:56] <kevin> does anyone in here know something about solving sound problems
[06:56] <RobbieCrash> !anyone
[06:56] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:56] <ltracy>  grr
[06:56] <UnluckyMike> robert: #winehq
[06:56] <hikyuu_> shh
[06:56] <hikyuu_> o.o dont ask dont tell
[06:56] <hikyuu_> in all honesty, im going to buy it eventually, just testing everything out first
[06:56] <foton> hola!
[06:57] <UnluckyMike> hukyu_: i already called the authorities
[06:57] <foton> hola gente, alguien aqui del DF
[06:57] <xevox> someone can give me a joost invitation? please i want to see free tv n_______n
[06:57] <awpti> Laptop / Wireless issues. My card is supported, got a WRT54G router. Have it set to broadcast and using WEP (hex).. my laptop refuses to find or connect to this network. any ideas?
[06:57] <hikyuu_> its not an admition of guilt :P
[06:57] <Music_Shuffle> !es | foton
[06:57] <ubotu> foton: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:57] <hikyuu_> that wont hold up in court
[06:57] <ltracy> make-kpkg made my uname -r show 2.6.21-1 instead of 2.6.20-ubuntu?  I think
[06:57] <ltracy> how can that be?
[06:57] <UnluckyMike> awpti: what kind of card are you using
[06:57] <hikyuu_> ill be out in about an hour
[06:57] <hikyuu_> lol
[06:58] <foton> what login chanel ubuntu-es
[06:58] <awpti> Broadcom 4318
[06:58] <foton> #ubuntu-es
[06:58] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: im thinking i should just try and reinstall it
[06:58] <UnluckyMike> awpti: you have the bcm43xx-fwcutter installed
[06:58] <hikyuu_> make sure i didnt fubar something as usual
[06:58] <awpti> Good question.. modprobe, right?
[06:58] <hikyuu_> lol
[06:58] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_ cant say what will work, mine just worked
[06:59] <Punkunity> cilaes wtf man
[06:59] <kevin> When I was using the live cd the sound worked, but then at some point (I cant say when) it stopped working, probably after i got my wireless card to work for me it stopped, why has the music stopped?
[06:59] <UnluckyMike> awpti: no the bcm43xx-fwcutter package in the universe repository
[06:59] <awpti> i don't see a -fwcutter.. i do see the broadcom driver loaded.
[06:59] <awpti> oh, lemme check.
[07:00] <awpti> Can't find that package.
[07:00] <foton> exit
[07:00] <foton> quit
[07:00] <awpti> i gotta flipflop my network since for some reason the install of GCC on this laptop can't create executables.
[07:01] <UnluckyMike> awpti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[07:01] <hikyuu_> ill try my other games too
[07:01] <hikyuu_> maybe Guildwars will work
[07:01] <UnluckyMike> hikyu_: there are some goodgames with linux native support if your into shooter
[07:01] <hikyuu_> lol
[07:02] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: i cant really play other shooters, Battlefields kinda my 'niche'
[07:02] <g0ow> how do i enable restricted respitories in my sources.list ?
[07:02] <Punkunity> !block
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about block - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <Punkunity> !ban n=Admin@202-224.dsl.bbtel.com
[07:02] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: while i suck against all my friends at CS:S and the like, none of them can mess with me on BF2142
[07:02] <Madpilot> ubotu, repos | g0ow
[07:02] <ubotu> g0ow: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:03] <Madpilot> Punkunity, the bot is not an op. What's the problem?
[07:03] <g0ow> thank you
[07:03] <hikyuu_> or any other Battlefield series for that matter
[07:03] <hikyuu_> lol
[07:03] <ltracy> is there help with kernel compilation here?  Not configuration or anything
[07:03] <hikyuu_> i
[07:03] <rob-west> can someone help me with DHCP
[07:03] <Lathiat> awpti: did you install build-essential (and not just 'gcc')
[07:03] <rob-west> i accidently deleted the settings
[07:04] <Oewyn> I installed php5 via apt-get, I can't find the executable, what's up?
[07:04] <hikyuu_> i'd also like to get this running for lanparties, and really mess up peoples day when im not using windows like they are, i used to use linux until i needed my gaming fix and couldnt set it all up myself, but now its alot easier for me
[07:04] <rob-west> is it possible to get them back
[07:04] <Parmenion> hey guys ... what kind of GTD software is there for Ubuntu ?
[07:04] <Taladan> okay....now /my/ audio isn't working.  The system just froze and I restarted and audio's completely gone.
[07:04] <rob-west> !dhcp
[07:04] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[07:04] <RobbieCrash> rob-west it's dhcp, restart your network adapter.
[07:04] <hikyuu_> :3 i love the LinuxOS, and ubuntu is amazing compared to the version i used to work with
[07:04] <Parmenion> Taladan: your using alsa ?
[07:04] <Taladan> yeah
[07:05] <Parmenion> hikyuu_: there is no linux OS per se ... only the kernel
[07:05] <Taladan> already tried doing /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart  twice to no avail
[07:05] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: you better be running a fast computer a windows box will have the edge when it comes to games.
[07:05] <rob-west> RobbieCrash ive tried it wont get the settings back
[07:05] <Parmenion> Taladan: into terminal "sudo alsamixer"
[07:05] <Chav3s> Is there a way of changing brightness and gamma through Ubuntu, without having to 'touch' the monitor calibration ?
[07:05] <Parmenion> Taladan: do you get anything ?
[07:05] <Taladan> yeah
[07:05] <hikyuu_> AMD64x2 4000 AM2 processor 2 gigs of Gskill memory and an X800gt
[07:06] <hikyuu_> :3
[07:06] <Taladan> the alsa mixer display comes up
[07:06] <CaptainMorgan> folks... having serious issues... no window has a border after I tried following the advice located at ubuntu forums.. I would paste the link but I can't copy anything... further, when trying to turn on Desktop Effects I get the error message: "The composite extension is not available"
[07:06] <hikyuu_> in windows it runs at 50% on a game, Ubuntu is only 20% more
[07:06] <Taladan> but it's on the wrong card.
[07:06] <hikyuu_> :333
[07:06] <UnluckyMike> you probally wont get the framerate your looking for
[07:06] <RobbieCrash> rob-west reboot your computer and your router
[07:06] <Parmenion> Taladan: you have more than one card ?
[07:07] <hikyuu_> nah, i have to get a new video card cause ATI drivers are crap
[07:07] <Taladan> yeah, the one I'm using is currently the one on the mainboard.
[07:07] <UnluckyMike> i have c2d 6700 with 4g and 8800gtx
[07:07] <rob-west> RobbieCrash ive done both
[07:07] <Parmenion> Taladan: terminal "aplay -l"
[07:07] <Taladan> but that's not the one displayed in alsamixer
[07:07] <awptii> Okay, I'm lost with this wireless thing.
[07:07] <RobbieCrash> rob-west is dhcpd running?
[07:07] <Parmenion> report result please
[07:07] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone help? I can't switch workspaces either....
[07:07] <awptii> that entire wiki page on the broadcom wireless cards is completely invalid.
[07:08] <Parmenion> awptii: use ndiswrapper
[07:08] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: seen what a PC like mine can do in linux, im fine :P
[07:08] <Taladan> the one I'm using is listed as card 1
[07:08] <awptii> none of the apt-sources work, can't find any fwcutter util and i have no idea how to find the exact driver i need for ndiswrapper to work.
[07:08] <hikyuu_> my roomates PC is similar and it runs perfectly fine
[07:08] <CaptainMorgan> showthreadt= 399643 is the suffix of the link....
[07:08] <hikyuu_> he just doesnt play Battlefield
[07:08] <hikyuu_> wich is the killer
[07:08] <hikyuu_> lol
[07:09] <Parmenion> Taladan: do the alsamixer thing again and look for a grayed out box ... use m to make it green
[07:09] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: don't be expecting eyecandy, is all I'm sayin...
[07:09] <Parmenion> does the sound work ?
[07:09] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: Im not stupid XD of course not!
[07:09] <Taladan> no greyed out box
[07:09] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: i dont run games full res in windows anyway
[07:09] <Taladan> I can't remember how to switch it to which card it's supposed to be using....maybe aplay...
[07:09] <Parmenion> Taladan: =( you need a guy with more specific knowledge then =(
[07:09] <CaptainMorgan> I can't get beryl to work on this system so I tried reverting back and I make the file unexecutable
[07:09] <Chav3s> Wi-fi is the most dangerous 'thing' you can have. Anyone with little knowledge can break into a pc, using wi-fi or bluetooth techs
[07:10] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: thought I would be able to pull of maxed out anti alias with the 8800gtx, but no, it snailed on through.
[07:10] <awptii> So, per default, ubuntu does not install essential utilities to build executable files.. i tried to get the build-essentials package but apt-get says there's no such thing.
[07:11] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone help? I can't switch workspaces either....
[07:11] <UnluckyMike> awptii: build-essential should be on your install cd
[07:11] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: ive been watching linux's constant growth tho, and in the next year or so, i wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt possible Mike
[07:11] <hikyuu_> especially since Vista is the most embarrasing OS ive seen
[07:11] <hikyuu_> ever
[07:11] <sanmarcos> for strange reasons, while trying to burn the ISO of Feisty it fails, giving me a weird error (even though it passes MD5 checksums). I unpacked all the data, and I am going to try to burn the data manually, should I mark the disc Bootable in my cd burning software? if so, can you be more specific (there are some levels of emulation in there), thanks.
[07:11] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: quake wars will be shipped for linux too..
[07:11] <Bhaskar1> Hello Everybody, Can anyone suggest me about which printer is fine for Edubuntu 7.04 Server (LTSP5.0)
[07:12] <UnluckyMike> sanmacros: it gave me a few errors like that too, I burned a few cd's up before it stuck
[07:12] <Toma-> Is there a way to make a package from whats already installed via dpkg?
[07:12] <awptii> i should get this wireless working. that link from the wiki is broken <for the bcm driver>
[07:12] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: hmm... that was wierd...
[07:12] <Oewyn> How do i install php for ubuntu?
[07:12] <feugan3333> Hi all. I'm trying to upgrade from edggy to fiesty and have encountered some nasty errors. Update manager now gives me the error software index is broken. Anyone able to help?
[07:12] <Taladan> hrm...crap.
[07:13] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: what is wierd
[07:13] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: lol, as usual i have no fawking clue why it works on his PC and not mine XD
[07:13] <ltracy> Has anybody had experience with a Thinkpad R51e?
[07:13] <sanmarcos> UnluckyMike: oh, i've burned quite a few cds already, in two machines (using Cd Burn XP Pro, and the other program suggested by the wiki).. I dont want to have more coasters.. btw, which program did you use, and what settings to succesfuly burn your ISO?
[07:13] <ltracy> Getting the Lid button to work?
[07:13] <awptii> i just had to pick the laptop with the unstable support for broadcom wireless.
[07:14] <skyforum> so many people ,and everyone has his own topic
[07:14] <skyhook> hi, I had a question about sound.  I have a built in sound thing on the motherboard, that doesnt work right (Hardware problem) but I got a new sound card years ago to fix it.  How do I get Ubuntu to use the sound card?  Can anyone help me?
[07:14] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: mine just gave me a "could not read memory" error trying to run WoW with Crossover
[07:14] <hikyuu_> X.x it installed in a heartbeat on my friends PC just fine
[07:14] <hikyuu_> lol
[07:14] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty
[07:14] <crimsun> skyhook: pastebin the output form ``asoundconf list''
[07:14] <crimsun> from ^
[07:14] <skyhook> ok
[07:14] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty
[07:14] <UnluckyMike> if your trying to burn the install cd in windows use alex feinman iso recorder
[07:14] <hikyuu_> so odd..
[07:14] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty
[07:15] <Niceguytx78> hey everyone... I am having trouble getting yelp to work, anyone know what I should do? not sure what information to give yet, but just ask.
[07:15] <skyhook> crimsun: Names of available sound cards:
[07:15] <skyhook> CK804
[07:15] <skyhook> AudioPCI
[07:15] <UnluckyMike> its free and it works from what i hear
[07:15] <ltracy> I'll wait on my question
[07:15] <hikyuu_> lol, so far the only game i have running is a Linux Native version of SL XD...
[07:15] <hikyuu_> god im tired...
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> .
[07:15] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: why are you usingcrossover
[07:16] <ltracy> America's Army and Unreal Tournament work good natively too :)
[07:16] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty
[07:16] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty
[07:16] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: Cause Cedega stops running after the first CD on WoW, and Crossover is known to run WoW
[07:16] <orehon> Anyone using snd-hda-intel in any HP laptop?
[07:16] <sanmarcos> UnluckyMike: "Error Sense Data: SENSE KEY: 6 ASC: C5 ASCQ: 0"
[07:16] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty
[07:16] <hikyuu_> i should really check my drivers..
[07:17] <tigger273> can anyone help me with using Ubuntu and windows on a LAN ?
[07:17] <ltracy> tigger273: howso?
[07:17] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty - someone here
[07:17] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: i don't play wow but i thought I heard that was one of the games that was supposed to run well in cadega
[07:17] <tigger273> I am trying to see shares on Linux and Windows machines
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone help with a support issue?
[07:17] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike XD well, its not, so.. you tell me, lol
[07:18] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: you have the newest engine? i think its 6.0
[07:18] <hikyuu_> i think its something to do with how my linux is configured
[07:18] <hikyuu_> yeah i have 6.0
[07:18] <crimsun> skyhook: so you want to use the ensoniq, I presume.
[07:18] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: i bet it might be Beryl?
[07:18] <UnluckyMike> did you configure your drivers correctly?
[07:19] <skyhook> crimson: yeah, thats my plan
[07:19] <ltracy> tigger273: Somebody can probably tell you a slick Ubuntu way of doing it.  If not, get back to me, and I'll tell you how I know how.. I just mount the windows shares in linux using the command line mount -t smbfs ...
[07:19] <UnluckyMike> beryl doesn't have any effect on mine
[07:19] <hikyuu_> i should have, im not experiencing anything wrong anyway
[07:19] <crimsun> skyhook: in a Terminal, type the following, then pres Enter:  asoundconf set-default-card AudioPCI
[07:19] <crimsun> skyhook: then log out and back into gnome
[07:19] <skyhook> crimson: okay Ill try that out thanks :)
[07:19] <thelostpatrol> where is the directory for xmms?
[07:19] <hikyuu_> my ATI drivers are selected on my Restricted Drivers too
[07:19] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty - someone here
[07:19] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty - someone here
[07:19] <robert98374> anyone have any experice installing a game with wine?
[07:19] <berent> My gdm is unable to find any device . what to do on feisty - someone here
[07:20] <hikyuu_> i should be running 24bit
[07:20] <awptii> where can i find bcm43xx-fwcutter? apt-get just can't seem to locate it and i don't see any packages that i can just snag.
[07:20] <Music_Shuffle> !spam
[07:20] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[07:20] <crimsun> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter >awptii
[07:20] <hikyuu_> sigh...maybe i need to get a Nividia Card
[07:20] <orehon> Anyone using snd-hda-intel in any HP laptop?
[07:20] <hikyuu_> >.>
[07:20] <UnluckyMike> awptii: i think its in the universe repository, is it enabled in your sources?
[07:21] <berent> !common sense
[07:21] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:21] <crimsun> orehon: yes, are you using alsa-driver hg?
[07:21] <crimsun> orehon: or alternately, what will become 1.0.14rc4 shortly
[07:21] <thelostpatrol> where is the directory for xmms?
[07:21] <tigger273> ltracy can you IM me please ?
[07:21] <thelostpatrol> or any programs?
[07:21] <awptii> i don'tknow how to tell, UnluckyMike. i don't see anything that says it is specifically a universal resource.
[07:21] <crimsun> thelostpatrol: what do you mean?
[07:21] <crimsun> thelostpatrol: the binary is located at /usr/bin/xmms
[07:22] <wonderl00t> hello, is there a way to run msi files with crossover office? like a terminal command or something?
[07:22] <thelostpatrol> i'm looking for the skins dir for xmms
[07:22] <crimsun> wonderl00t: probably with crossover wine
[07:22] <orehon> crimsun, what is hg?
[07:22] <crimsun> thelostpatrol: user or systemwide?
[07:22] <awptii> I see one that is labeled "feisty universe"
[07:22] <crimsun> orehon: see the bottom of the download page from alsa-project.rog
[07:22] <thelostpatrol> system wide is better
[07:22] <orehon> crimsun, i am using the last alsa-drive
[07:22] <crimsun> orehon: alsa-project.org, even.
[07:22] <skyhook> crimsun: It worked thanks for the help!
[07:22] <crimsun> skyhook: np
[07:22] <wonderl00t> crimson: thanks i'll try that...
[07:22] <SurfnKid> !codecs
[07:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <sanityx> I noticed that when I boot Ubuntu into recovery mode, it logs you right into root without a password. How can I change that? Just set a password on root?
[07:23] <crimsun> orehon: the latest is hg tip, or mercurial tip
[07:23] <ltracy> tigger go to your own channel
[07:23] <UnluckyMike> awptii: run synaptic Settings>Repositories make sure universe, restricted, multiverse are check
[07:23] <orehon> crimsun, i cant find it there
[07:23] <UnluckyMike> i don't know where they stuck em
[07:23] <tigger273> how ? I don't understand how to use this IRC
[07:24] <crimsun> orehon: click the Download link on alsa-project.org
[07:24] <tigger273> can you IM me please
[07:24] <orehon> crimsun, ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3.tar.bz2
[07:24] <awptii> they are all checked.
[07:24] <crimsun> orehon: no, that's outdated.
[07:24] <orehon> crimsun, o.O
[07:24] <crimsun> orehon: you need to pull hg tip, which is even newer.  Follow the hg/mercurial directions.
[07:24] <hikyuu_> grrr >.<
[07:24] <awptii> just a search for "bcm43" finds nada.
[07:24] <UnluckyMike> awptii: in synaptic hit the reload button and search again
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> i'm looking for the skins dir for xmms
[07:25] <orehon> crimsun,  ok i found
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> or any other way to install them
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> anyone?
[07:25] <orehon> crimsun, i will donwload it and report the results... THANK YOU
[07:25] <crimsun> thelostpatrol: user or systemwide?
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> either
[07:25] <awptii> duh. stupid me.. brb
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> i just want to install the skin
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> :P
[07:25] <crimsun> thelostpatrol: ~/.xmms/skins/
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> systemwide prefferable
[07:25] <thelostpatrol> ok
[07:28] <thelostpatrol> how do i open that dir. crimsun?
[07:28] <kermitus> Ahh hello world! Finally got "Ubuntu" installed on my laptop. Now to figure out how to install it to my USB drive.. which has been a pain in my arse latly I might add
[07:28] <sanmarcos> UnluckyMike: thanks, isorecorder worked :D
[07:29] <UnluckyMike> sanmacros: glad to help
[07:29] <awpti> nice. FWcutter did the magic.
[07:30] <thelostpatrol> how do i open that dir. crimsun?
[07:30] <UnluckyMike> awptii: welcome to wireless
[07:30] <z0rz> anyone have a delcious link for X800 card and Beryl? (I also need to install the X800 driver)
[07:30] <awpti> Thanks much, mike.
[07:30] <thelostpatrol> nevermind i got it
[07:30] <UnluckyMike> no  prob
[07:30] <awpti> Been about 6 years since i've touched linux as a desktop.. let alone on a laptop.
[07:30] <boubbin> !lamp
[07:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:31] <foton> Thanks
[07:31] <awpti> So, is WINE still the bigboy for windows emulation, or has something else stepped up?
[07:31] <roflcopper> wine is good
[07:31] <SeveredCross> Wine works fine.
[07:31] <roflcopper> hey uh...anyone here running beryl?
[07:32] <SeveredCross> I was. Then it kept crashing.
[07:32] <roflcopper> hm
[07:32] <roflcopper> i deleted my main ubuntu panel on top
[07:32] <roflcopper> and now beryl doesn't start upon login
[07:32] <UnluckyMike> roflcopper: i would say at least half the channel is
[07:32] <SeveredCross> And since I prefer to have hardware acceleration, I don't want to use the radeon driver which would let me run Beryl.
[07:32] <roflcopper> and i gont have the little icon on there and i cant get it
[07:32] <awpti> i'd love to give beryl a run, but i doubt this poor lappy could handle it
[07:33] <UnluckyMike> roflcopper: it might still be running check system monitor to find out
[07:33] <Taladan> figured out the audio problem
[07:33] <roflcopper> how do i get the icon back?
[07:33] <Taladan> have to use asoundconf to set the default card to the one I'm using.
[07:33] <roflcopper> there was an icon i could right click for settings and stuff
[07:33] <UnluckyMike> awpti: beryl can run on 32mb cards as long as you use hardware rendering
[07:34] <UnluckyMike> roflcopper: right click pannel and add notification area back to it
[07:34] <roflcopper> notification area?
[07:34] <UnluckyMike> Right click> add to pannel and choose notification are
[07:35] <roflcopper> sweeeet
[07:35] <roflcopper> thanks
[07:35] <roflcopper> ^_^
[07:35] <kermitus> awpti: Yeah this is the first time I ever put any flavor of linux on my laptop... I do like it though, I seem to get my work done faster in this kind of environment.. vs windows xp that is
[07:35] <yigal> what is ubuntu good for?
[07:35] <roflcopper> hm
[07:35] <thelostpatrol> .
[07:35] <roflcopper> many things
[07:35] <yigal> I mean what are we driving at?
[07:35] <roflcopper> free OS for all
[07:35] <yigal> is it to destroy M$ but what for?
[07:35] <thelostpatrol> where can i find winamp's EQ presets so i can import them to XMMS?
[07:36] <Gerro> yigal: anything and everything, think debian but like actually works drivers and everything with many choices
[07:36] <awpti> eh, i've never seen greather productivity between linux/windows-based desktops.
[07:36] <thelostpatrol> where can i find winamp's EQ presets so i can import them to XMMS? which file is it?
[07:36] <yigal> Gerro: I don't know
[07:36] <z0rz> Anyone have a good X800 driver guide?  I can't get x to start
[07:36] <yigal> I have worked hard and for what?
[07:37] <roflcopper> zOrz what x800 do you have
[07:37] <roflcopper> mobility or regular
[07:37] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike hey, i just read some extra requirements, check your im >.>
[07:37] <z0rz> regular
[07:37] <Gerro> yigal: what ubuntu do you use?
[07:37] <kermitus> awpti: not to say I dont get a lot done on my WXP OS.. I like both OS's equally the same as far as the desktop is conserned
[07:37] <Taladan> thelostpatrol: message me with your email address and I'll email them to you.
[07:37] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: are you registered with nickserv?
[07:37] <yigal> Gerro: I have Feisty, I worked with Beta and then now we are at Feisty
[07:38] <yigal> but I worked too hard
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> any issues I should be aware of before I enable the ATI accelerated graphics driver in Feisty's Restricted Drivers section?
[07:38] <awpti> i just want linux on this laptop so i can keep up with the linux world and what's new. i'm waiting for the day i can truely be one with the gnu/linux desktop purely.
[07:38] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike Lol
[07:38] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike jesus x.x
[07:38] <Gerro> yigal: yeah but like which dm?
[07:38] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike This game requires GLSL, FBO, Float Textures and 2.0 Pixel and Vertex Shaders to be supported and enabled.
[07:39] <Flannel> thelostpatrol: winamp.ini in your winamp directory
[07:39] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: Thats what it said XD
[07:39] <kermitus> awpti: why cant you get linux on your laptop?
[07:39] <UnluckyMike> hikyuu_: get nvidia :)
[07:39] <awpti> kermitus, eh? it is on the lappy.
[07:39] <awpti> i was having issues with the wireless.
[07:39] <yigal> Gerro: I have used dwm, wmii, ratpoison, openbox, gnome, kde
[07:39] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike O.o
[07:39] <kermitus> awpti: lol i am sorry I guess I miss-read, forgive me :)
[07:39] <yigal> Gerro: owell never, mind
[07:40] <awpti> BRB
[07:40] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike that /totally/ helps X,x lol
[07:40] <UnluckyMike> hikuu_: get the 8800gtx, they are sweeet
[07:40] <kermitus> awpti: wireless.. lol I got a pcmcia card sitting right next to me, wishing it could be in use right now
[07:40] <z0rz> This chat room's too ADD
[07:41] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: some pcmcia cards are supported
[07:41] <yigal> z0rz: ADD or ADHD?
[07:41] <awpti> Ther ewe go.
[07:41] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike sure, ill just run out and get it :P
[07:41] <hikyuu_> lol
[07:41] <Geoffrey2> well, I guess I'll just enable the ATI drivers and see what happens, since there appears to be no opinion on the matter....
[07:41] <awpti> i need to get myself a little laptop mouse. i hate this pointer device.
[07:42] <z0rz> ADHD = the 1 for adults?
[07:42] <kermitus> unluckymike: well I am hopeing my berklin card is supported.. my linksys was not
[07:42] <yigal> H = hyperactive
[07:42] <z0rz> ahh
[07:42] <orehon> crimsun, How can i compile that?
[07:42] <yigal> I think ADD is more adult like
[07:43] <crimsun> orehon: install build-essential, libtool, autoconf, mercurial, and automake1.7
[07:43] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: are you sure it was *unsopported* or you couldn't configure it?
[07:43] <crimsun> orehon: then checkout both alsa-kernel and alsa-driver modules
[07:43] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: well there was one driver that was susposed to work, but it did not.. oh i was mistaken, the linksys did work, the berklin has not up to this point
[07:43] <crimsun> orehon: then follow the hg instructions in alsa-drivers's INSTALL
[07:44] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: if you can't find drivers for you card, use ndiswrapper, it seems to work for people
[07:44] <Gigs> What does "Can't have the end before the beginning" mean in the partitioner?
[07:44] <KHatfull> zOrz: As the father of two ADHD kids, one more ADD and one more HD how do you come to the conclusion that the channel is "too ADD"?
[07:44] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: what is the chipset on your belkin card?
[07:44] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: aparently its possible to get this card working, so I guess I cant say its unsupported.. just very difficult to get working
[07:45] <KHatfull> Atheros wireless = Joy
[07:45] <hikyuu_> ... it just stopped installing XD
[07:45] <UnluckyMike> i hated atheros...just my opinion, my rt61 hasn't been much trouble
[07:45] <kermitus> UnluckyMike:ndiswrapper is exactly what I was advised to do.. its a Berklin F5D7010
[07:46] <KHatfull> UnluckyMike: Most Atheros are P&P in Ubuntu though, pretty much just work without a lot of trouble.
[07:46] <orehon> crimsun, ok
[07:46] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: if you can find the chipset your card is using then you can figure out if there are native drivers
[07:46] <UnluckyMike> nm you already said
[07:46] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: well i did some extensive research on it, and aparently ndiswrapper was the only work around.. so i have to fiddle with that
[07:47] <KHatfull> kermitus: Unlucky has the ticket...Linksys especially is famous for changing chipsets in different versions of the same model of card...makes whether or not it;s v1, v2, etc. very important.
[07:47] <KHatfull> And they should be jailed and flogged for doing so, but they do ;-)
[07:47] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: i think your card uses bcm43xx firmware..
[07:48] <wonderl00t> does anyone know a way to extract an msi installer in crossover office?
[07:48] <hikyuu_> UnluckyMike: heh, Cedega says my OpenGL rendering isnt set up properly
[07:48] <kermitus> lol KHatfull, well i think the linksys did work, its the berklin card we are haveing trouble with now.. i could be wrong, but I have the berklin card in my hand now, and have worked on this one myself.. not much luck yet
[07:48] <yigal> what kind of belking?
[07:48] <jouston> wonderl00t: you will need to install msi-installer in wine first
[07:48] <yigal> belkin?
[07:48] <awpti> lets see if i can't completely wreck this install of ubuntu :)
[07:48] <KHatfull> kermitus: wireless is a deficiency that the kernel devs really need to address, that and bluetooth
[07:48] <wonderl00t> jouston: thanks
[07:48] <awpti> gonna try to install beryl.
[07:48] <KHatfull> of course, manufactureres could help too ;-)
[07:49] <yigal> bluetooth, I like linux bluetooth support, kind of funky but it works
[07:49] <KHatfull> awpti: nVidia?
[07:49] <jouston> wonderl00t: welcome
[07:49] <awpti> ati, actually.
[07:49] <UnluckyMike> KHatFull: yeah I know about the versions of cards, when my first one pooped on me the updated it left me without wireless until I figured it out
[07:49] <kermitus> KHatfull: well i agree..but to be honest both technology's are not exactly the easiest to work with.
[07:49] <jouston> Anyone heard about Ubuntu on MID?
[07:49] <KHatfull> awpti: good luck ;-)
[07:49] <awpti> i'll take that as a "that's a bad idea, right there.."  :)
[07:49] <KDan> hello. When I click on the 7.04 upgrade in ubuntu, one of the first items on the list of details of what it's going to do is "remove apache2-common". My immediate reaction to that is "go f.. yourself, that's my development environment." Is that reaction incorrect?
[07:50] <zemonsta> the network manager applet in feisty fawn sux - i've installed it on three computers and so far it only works properly on one (connection information is greyed out and clicking on it just shows 'manual configuration') <-- how do i fix this???
[07:50] <jouston> I heard rumor that intel will work with Ubuntu for OS on intel Menlow MID platform.
[07:50] <KHatfull> kermitus: no, you're right...there's no guarantee in Winders either, esp. for BT
[07:50] <Parmenion> zemonsta: use wicd
[07:50] <awpti> pisspoor support for ati devices in beryl?
[07:50] <zemonsta> Parmenion: how/why?
[07:50] <yigal> BT is awesome in Linux/Ubuntu
[07:50] <kermitus> And yes the correct name for the pcmcia card is Belkin, I am into my second pot of coffee now and I guess I cant type tonight
[07:50] <yigal> kermitus, I am into my second 6 pack of beer
[07:51] <yigal> mmmh good
[07:51] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: its not the card name we're after we need the actual chipset name
[07:51] <Parmenion> zemonsta: google wicd, havent updated the bookmarks on my laptop. Wicd is the only network app which allows me to connect to any network i require
[07:51] <KDan> hello. When I click on the 7.04 upgrade in ubuntu, one of the first items on the list of details of what it's going to do is "remove apache2-common". My immediate reaction to that is "go f.. yourself, that's my development environment." Is that reaction incorrect?
[07:51] <kermitus> lol thats a better choice yigal, I wish though.. working unfortunatly
[07:51] <bimberi> KDan: apache2-common doesn't exist in feisty.  I guess it means that there has been a change in the packageset for apache2
[07:51] <yigal> kermitus: I am using a belking usb wireless
[07:51] <yigal> excuse me belkin
[07:52] <yigal> kermitus: but not pcmcia
[07:52] <kermitus> Unluckymike: ok well let me see what i can come up with on this belkin.. as far as chipsets are conserned
[07:52] <zemonsta> Parmenion: yeah, thanks, but i'm not really after that - i only ever need to connect to one network... it's just that it would be nice to figure out why the applet itself isn't working
[07:52] <Parmenion> yigal: do a lspci -v output for us
[07:52] <wonderl00t> jouston: you know a place i can get that from the 'net? do you have to go through microsoft?
[07:52] <KDan> bimberi: so how can i know that i'll still have my dev environment after upgrading, even though it seems to be removing apache2- and php5-mysqli for no clear reason?
[07:52] <KHatfull> looks like he;s improved wicd since last I tried it...
[07:52] <kermitus> yigal: Belkin usb wireless? did not know they had usb wireless.. i got the pcmcia version
[07:52] <yigal> Parenion: " "
[07:52] <jouston> wonderl00t: probably you will need to ask google. :P
[07:52] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: i'm not well versed with pcmcia i could be wrong but you should be able to plug it in and go into the terminal and type lspci and look for network related info
[07:52] <Parmenion> zemonsta: do not plumb the depths of the unknown .... :P no idea why it doesnt work myself . Just take i that it "Just Works" :P
[07:53] <yigal> Parenion: I am using usb not pcmcia
[07:53] <KHatfull> NM in Edgy hasn't given me any problems yet though...fortunately
[07:53] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: i will try that now
[07:53] <wonderl00t> jouston: i have :p
[07:53] <zemonsta> Parmenion: I'm afraid I'm a little curious ;)
[07:53] <Hamm_laptop> on my desktop computer KNotify keeps crashing.... is this bad?
[07:53] <Crav> the sound on my laptop has stopped working; no movies, music etc. at the same time, my pc speaker has started playing over the laptop speakers. any ideas to get my sound back?
[07:53] <bimberi> KDan: it shouldn't remove anything like that.  always a good idea to backup though :)
[07:53] <Parmenion> zemonsta: no idea myself ... i think its the way certain networks are managed
[07:54] <zemonsta> anyway, they better release an update for the network applet soon anyway - even on the computer that works it doesn't automatically detect if its been reconnected again - something the old gnome one worked
[07:54] <yigal> Does anyone watch CBS innertube on realplayer on Ubuntu?
[07:54] <bimberi> KDan: btw the package is now called apache2.2-common
[07:54] <jouston> wonderl00t: I've done this once with wine.
[07:54] <yigal> using realplayer?
[07:54] <yigal> its nice
[07:54] <jouston> wonderl00t: I install IE6 at that time, with msi installer from M$
[07:54] <zemonsta> KDan - don't worry about it - i run the same thing and it was fine
[07:54] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: I think this is the info on the card.. : 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[07:55] <UnluckyMike> that would be it
[07:55] <awpti> well, my video card is supported.. but the instructions to get beryl running look hellish.
[07:55] <KHatfull> awpti: nVidia is much easier
[07:55] <zemonsta> Parmenion: actually, if i could get rid of the network manager applet in feisty i'd be laughing
[07:55] <UnluckyMike> i think the atheros drivers are in the restricted modules...i could be wrong
[07:55] <z0rz> awpti: I concurr.. what card do you have?
[07:55] <yigal> awpti: I am sorry ati has to work really hard to work
[07:55] <Hamm_laptop> on my desktop computer KNotify keeps crashing.... is this bad?
[07:55] <awpti> well, not much choice on the laptop :)
[07:55] <awpti> z0rz: XPRESS 200M
[07:55] <Parmenion> zemonsta: actually ... you can "apt-get remove network-manager"
[07:55] <Parmenion> thats what i did
[07:55] <z0rz> yeah I have a X800 and I'm having hell gettying beryl running
[07:55] <dibblego> does ubuntu have any plans for a versioned file syste m like ext3cow? or an encrypted file system?
[07:55] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: I believe thats what I read.. tis why ndiswrapper was the only option..but up to this point it has not worked, that could be user error though
[07:56] <zemonsta> ah ok, thanks
[07:56] <yigal> Permenion: but you can: chmod a-x on NetworkManager :)
[07:56] <Parmenion> zemonsta: try to use synaptic
[07:56] <Parmenion> yigal: Wicd conflicts with Network Manager :P
[07:56] <ltracy> Where does make-kpkg get it's version string from?  I am pretty confident it built the Ubuntu sources 2.6.20 and named them 2.6.21-1 (A set of vanilla sources I had been previously trying to make work).
[07:56] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: modprobe -l see if the atheros drivers are loaded
[07:57] <kermitus> brb gotta grab a pack of smokes outa the car.. i love being the IT at night when HR has gone home, get to smoke in the office
[07:57] <kermitus> rgr
[07:57] <yigal> Parmenion: I use the chmod method and use /etc/network/interfaces I can't stand networkmanager especially with my wifi card
[07:57] <dman> init:/etc/event.d/tty1:16: Unknown stanza
[07:57] <dman> anyone know how ot fix that?
[07:57] <Parmenion> yigal: Wicd here for me
[07:57] <ltracy> hmm nevermind :)
[07:58] <zemonsta> lol, i have opened a can of worms here i think
[07:58] <awpti> i still can't get over the connectivity this new apt i moved to provides.. 20mbit per apartment.
[07:58] <Chav3s> Hi :-)  I'm trying to make a shortcut (simbolic link) to a html file that contains references to a game written in swf. The problem is that it shows an error message. I'm not allowed to open the file because I don't have pemission. When I try to opne it using firefox ( for example) it says that I must configure Dofus ( the game) as a trusted application on the flash player settings ..
[07:58] <zemonsta> ok, one last thing - how do you force kaffeine or indeed any other video player to vertical sync to stop tearing?
[07:59] <crabgrass> "[00000348]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)"        is there any way to tell what program is trying to use my card, and kill uit?
[07:59] <kermitus> UnluckyMike:I am looking under the wireless/ directory and I see bcm43xx and some others but not atheros
[07:59] <Toma-> Chav3s: theres documentation on it at the dofus website
[07:59] <Chav3s> Toma, ok. Thanks
[07:59] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: well i see airo.ko dunno if thats it
[07:59] <Toma-> Chav3s: no probs.
[07:59] <zemonsta> i think you can do it in xorg.conf only i don't know what/where i should look it up
[08:00] <kermitus> kk brb in a second
[08:00] <javierder> where can i go to ask pygtk questions? any channel around here?
[08:01] <Crav> the sound on my laptop has stopped working; no movies, music etc. at the same time, my pc speaker has started playing over the laptop speakers. any ideas to get my sound back?
[08:01] <crabgrass> Crav: reboot?
[08:01] <yigal> Crav: have you "pkill esd" ?
[08:01] <tritium> kermitus: you're looking for the atheros kernel module?  It's ath_pci
[08:02] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: if lspci is saying you are using atheros don't worry about the bm43xx
[08:02] <Crav> yigal: i have no
[08:02] <yigal> Crav: try in a terminal "pkill esd"
[08:02] <bur[n] er> grr... for the record, when the partitioner asks for new partition size when resizing, the new size is the NTFS size, not what you want Ubuntu to use :(
[08:02] <Crav> yigal: alright
[08:02] <UnluckyMike> you need to intall the atheros driver's like i said I THINK they are in the restricted modules
[08:02] <yigal> Crav: tell us what happens?
[08:02] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: rgr, did not know if maybe the bm43xx were referance drivers or something
[08:02] <kermitus> Unluckymike: rgr im looking now
[08:02] <bur[n] er> bcm43xx drivers are for bcm43xx cards... Broadcom
[08:02] <UnluckyMike> no they are for broadcom chipsets
[08:03] <tritium> kermitus: ath_pci is provided in the restricted-modules
[08:03] <bur[n] er> cafuego has .deb packs for bcm43xx
[08:03] <kermitus> ok
[08:03] <Crav> yigal: it thinks for a second than it asks for a new command
[08:03] <Crav> yigal: doesn't visably do anyhting
[08:03] <kermitus> sry I dont spend much time with driver sets. although Iike know this kind of stuff
[08:03] <Rebel_Eclipsed> Greetings!
[08:03] <piNNoy> is there anyway to get my ubuntu files (screenshots) in my windows drive? its saying i dont have access. (cant connect on internet with ubuntu yet. )
[08:03] <kermitus> *I like
[08:03] <yigal> Crav: you see the volume applet open it up
[08:04] <yigal> Crav: it is in the right top corner
[08:04] <Crav> yigal: i have master, headphone, pcm, line in, cd and microphone
[08:04] <Rebel_Eclipsed> I changed my monitor and now Ubuntu thinks its 640x480 but the monitor has a higher resolution. How do I fix this in Ubuntu?
[08:04] <CharonX> I have samba setup, so I can send pictures to my server. But it saves ownership as the user that sent them. How can I set files in that samba dir to force ownership to apache and group:users ?
[08:04] <yigal> nothing has an "X" through it?
[08:04] <sanityx> Anybody know of a way to make my Palm sync my contacts with Thunderbird?
[08:04] <Crav> yigal: no
[08:05] <Rebel_Eclipsed> I changed my monitor and now Ubuntu thinks its 640x480 but the monitor has a higher resolution. How do I fix this in Ubuntu?
[08:05] <yigal> Crav: what about "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" try that
[08:05] <bur[n] er> Rebel_Eclipsed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:05] <piNNoy> is there anyway to get my ubuntu files (screenshots) in my windows drive? its saying i dont have access. (cant connect on internet with ubuntu yet. )
[08:06] <Rebel_Eclipsed> thanks.. will try that
[08:06] <Crav> yigal: still no sound
[08:06] <jack|ass> Does the fiesty installer not work right when you try to do a LVM on RAID when partitioning?
[08:06] <bur[n] er> piNNoy: get ntfs-config if you want to write to ntfs partitions
[08:06] <yigal> Crav: as a person said earlier just restart Ub..
[08:06] <zemonsta> hello? anyone got any idea about screen tearing with video playback?
[08:07] <piNNoy> burner> ty
[08:07] <Geoffrey2> hi folks, I have a desktop and laptop, both with Feisty installed, and I'd like to be able to easily transfer some files over from the laptop, can someone point me to directions on how to set this up?
[08:07] <Crav> yigal: alright, i'll come back if i still have issues
[08:07] <bur[n] er> piNNoy: i'm not sure how you'll get ntfs-config without internet access ;)
[08:07] <piNNoy> bur - it works at my school wiht the wire
[08:07] <yigal> Crav: good
[08:07] <piNNoy> my wireless isent working
[08:07] <GigaClon> is there a place that I can configure and view joysticks?
[08:07] <bur[n] er> piNNoy: what kind of wireless?  do any troubleshooting?
[08:07] <piNNoy> have to get the drivers for it
[08:08] <piNNoy> bur: ya i have it solved i just need tro get on the internet 1 more time. (tomororw)
[08:08] <bur[n] er> cool
[08:08] <piNNoy> o
[08:08] <Crav> bur[n] er: i hate you
[08:08] <piNNoy> LOL
[08:08] <piNNoy> !
[08:08] <KDan> Geoffrey2: look up NFS
[08:08] <zemonsta> bur[n] er:  heh, i'm with you on that - i installed ubuntu on an Acer lappy and it worked out of the box
[08:09] <KDan> Geoffrey2: on the ubuntu docs
[08:09] <piNNoy> OL
[08:09] <Flannel> jack|ass: it'll stop for a little while, just wait and it'll eventually figure itself out
[08:09] <Parmenion> zemonsta: maybe update the wiki with your information?
[08:09] <KDan> Geoffrey2: easiest way if you have 2 linux machines. if you need a windows machine too, you'll have to use Samba.. more of a pita
[08:09] <bur[n] er> i have a broadcom that i'm install ubuntu on now that doesn't work out of the box... but a dpkg -i on a bcm43xx .deb from cafuego, reboot, and alls well :)
[08:09] <KDan> Geoffrey2: but NFS is very easy
[08:09] <yigal> KDan: no Windows :)
[08:10] <jack|ass> Flannel: it complains about not being able to notify the kernel about one of the raid partitions.  But, more importantly, the first time it made it through the install, it wouldn't boot!
[08:10] <UnluckyMike> rt61 drivers pretty much work out of box now
[08:10] <aubade> 's say you have three primary partitions. hda1, hda2, and hda3. If you delete hda2 does what was hda3 become hda2 or does it retain its id as hda3?
[08:10] <sanityx> Anybody know of a way to sync Palm contacts with Thunderbird?
[08:10] <atiredmachine> How do I switch between keyboard layouts
[08:10] <Flannel> jack|ass: hmm.  Did you have /boot on LVM?
[08:10] <piNNoy> what backround is everyone using for the clear cube? have and screenshots?!? i need ideas.
[08:10] <atiredmachine> I guess that answers my question!
[08:10] <zemonsta> Parmenion: which wiki? what information? oh, and it was with Edgy - there were still a few problems
[08:10] <atiredmachine> ha
[08:10] <bur[n] er> sanityx: that's a problem that I don't think has a Linux solution yet  there's palmsync.xpi, but it's not great I har
[08:10] <Parmenion> zemonsta: the ubuntu wiki and the laptop testing pages
[08:10] <atiredmachine> Revision.. a program needs to be restarted before a keyboard layout change is in effect
[08:10] <jack|ass> Flannel: yeah, i did, as i was under the impression thjat would work.  However, even when i changed it to just being a normal ext3 (no real reason to be lvm on that one) it didn't work.
[08:10] <sanityx> bur[n] er, I'll look into it thanks.
[08:10] <Parmenion> you can detail the fixes as well
[08:11] <Geoffrey2> KDan, nope, just Ubuntu....I got the url from ubotu...
[08:11] <jack|ass> Flannel: it just sat there for about 30 minutes.
[08:11] <sanityx> bur[n] er, Yeah that plugin is ok, but it depends on palm desktop, and since this is Linux . . .
[08:11] <jack|ass> Flannel: also the partition editor doesn't seem to be smart enough to zero the superblocks in the RAID partitions when you delete them. (resulting in partitions that JUST WON'T DIE! :))
[08:11] <h4wk0> !keyboard | atiredmachine
[08:11] <ubotu> atiredmachine: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[08:11] <cafuego> bur[n] er: i'm special!
[08:11] <Flannel> jack|ass: /boot on LVM doesn't work really well.  But everything else works fine.  Not sure about RAID stuffs though
[08:11] <Flannel> !raid | jack|ass
[08:12] <ubotu> jack|ass: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:12] <sanityx> bur[n] er, Maybe once Palm OS 6 comes out (which is linux based) there will be a way.
[08:12] <piNNoy> ok i got a question: on the panel how do you make Applications,Places,System show up in 1 lil icon or word?
[08:12] <jack|ass> Flannel: ok, i'll check those out.
[08:12] <zemonsta> piNNoy -> add to panel, Main Menu
[08:12] <sanityx> is there a way to view the memory/cpu usage of a particular kernel module?
[08:12] <UnluckyMike> piNNoy: add main menu applet
[08:13] <bur[n] er> sanityx: maybe, but I wouldn't hold your breath... how long have we heard stories about it now?  2 maybe 3 years?
[08:13] <atiredmachine> !Shortcuts
[08:13] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[08:13] <sanityx> bur[n] er, heh.
[08:13] <jack|ass> Flannel: and there's no reason that raid doesn't work with boot, right?
[08:13] <sanityx> bur[n] er, I guess I'll just run Palm Desktop in vmware then.
[08:13] <Flannel> jack|ass: I have no idea
[08:13] <phoareau> hi
[08:13] <phoareau> i need some help
[08:13] <eso42> l
[08:13] <yigal> phoareau: of course we al ldo
[08:13] <phoareau> how do i remove firestart from boot in ubuntu?
[08:13] <bur[n] er> sanityx: i run activesync via vmware for my phone
[08:14] <jack|ass> Flannel: heh..  Well, i'd imagine not, since before the raid driver loads up, the raid-1 mirror should be treated like a normal drive.
[08:14] <Crav> yigal: after the restart, everything appears to be wokring fine
[08:14] <sanityx> bur[n] er, Activesync = Outlook right? I don't use outlook, for anything. Mostly on principle.
[08:14] <sanityx> Also I just don't like outlook much.
[08:14] <bur[n] er> activesync can also be used to just browse your device, or install things, or to sync with exchange.. I don't actually have outlook on here
[08:15] <yigal> phoareau: either install "bum" or "sysv-rc-conf"
[08:15] <piNNoy> still having trouble? where exactly do i go ok i got a question: on the panel how do you make Applications,Places,System show up in 1 lil icon or word?
[08:15] <joselj> can i install thunderbird 2 in feisty?
[08:15] <yigal> Crav: awesome
[08:15] <bur[n] er> joselj: if you can find a .deb :)
[08:15] <Flannel> phoareau: firestarter isn't your firewall, it's just the GUI to edit the firewall rules
[08:15] <yigal>  Flannel: yes but it is called at startup
[08:15] <jack|ass> hmm
[08:16] <jack|ass> does anyone know how linux handles using multiple swap partitions?
[08:16] <Lathiat> jack|ass: fine? :)
[08:16] <jack|ass> if i have two (on separate drives) does it favor one?
[08:16] <yigal> "bum" or "sysv-rc-conf" will controal firestarters run levels
[08:16] <joselj> do you mean only thunderbird 1.5 is available form de repositories?
[08:16] <Flannel> yigal: that'd be a gnome startup thing, not a init thing.
[08:16] <jack|ass> Lathiat: well, i know it'll do it, i'm just curious as to how it decides which one to use. :)
[08:16] <Flannel> joselj: yes.
[08:16] <jack|ass> Lathiat: (when both are active of course)
[08:16] <predaeus> piNNoy, rightclick on an empty area on the panel and add an applet, probably the ones zemonsta or UnluckyMike mentioned
[08:16] <UnluckyMike> joselj: you can compile it from source
[08:17] <yigal> Flannel: wrong firestarter starts before gdm does
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> KDan, lesse, I either need to set up LDAP, NIS, or manually synchronize the password file..what seems to you to be the best method?
[08:17] <yigal> Flannel: that is without tinkering with normal configurations
[08:17] <piNNoy> pred: i dont see 'add an applet' do you mean 'new panel' or propertys?
[08:17] <Flannel> yigal: There's absolutely NO reason firestarter should run before GDM, that's stupid.
[08:17] <joselj> what about the binaries does it works with ubuntu feisty?
[08:18] <UnluckyMike> piNNoy: right click panel and click add to pannel
[08:18] <bur[n] er> piNNoy: add to panel
[08:18] <piNNoy> ok
[08:18] <UnluckyMike> joselj: the binaries will work
[08:18] <yigal> Flannel: no its meant to work as a firewall, so when the wifi or ethernet gives us internet/network access firestarter is there to help us, its not such a bad idea? :)
[08:18] <robert98374> Does Ubuntu have a text to speech program?
[08:18] <Toma-> robert98374: like festival?
[08:19] <predaeus> Flannel, I think firestarter sets iptables options it backed up somewhere so it needs to be run soon
[08:19] <Flannel> yigal: Firestarter ISNT your firewall.  it just manages the configuration for your firewall.
[08:19] <joselj> thanks guys i'll take a look at that
[08:19] <UnluckyMike> joselj: as long as you have all the needed dependencies
[08:19] <xarann> i know this is gonnasound ridiculous
[08:19] <xarann> ive just installed ubuntu feisty, first timelinux, i get to thr bash shell. now how do i load the gnome desktop
[08:19] <Flannel> xarann: you downloaded the server CD?
[08:19] <robert98374> toma not sure
[08:19] <yigal>  Flannel: look man, /etc/init.d/firestarter is run at boot before gdm I don't need to argue with you I am correct
[08:20] <h4wk0> Anyone got a BCM4328 Network drive - Ive tried most of the bcm43xx tutorials - None have worked
[08:20] <xarann> no i installed it with pxe-netboot
[08:20] <joselj> UnluckyMike: thanks for the advice ;-)
[08:20] <xarann> but i picked the ubuntu package inthe install
[08:20] <UnluckyMike> no problem
[08:20] <xarann> not server
[08:20] <Flannel> yigal: I see it.  Although, like I said, firestarter has no need to run at boot, and it isnt your firewall.
[08:20] <Toma-> robert98374: festival is the text-> speech engine, and Fala is a great little gui app that uses it
[08:20] <Parmenion> h4wk0: im using the 1390 series .. use ndiswrapper
[08:20] <z0rz> Where's the xorg config util located?
[08:20] <bur[n] er> xarann: did the livecd work?
[08:20] <Parmenion> its really much better .
[08:20] <robert98374> toma can you use that in ubuntu?
[08:20] <yigal> Flannel: it uses iptables but it is a firewall in the sense that it works to block ports etc. from unwanted activity
[08:20] <Toma-> robert98374: sure can. http://sourceforge.net/projects/fala/
[08:21] <bur[n] er> h4wk0: i do... i got cafuego's bcm43xx .deb and it works great
[08:21] <xarann> this system has no cd
[08:21] <xarann> wich is why i used pxe
[08:21] <bur[n] er> awww... /me knows crap about pxe
[08:21] <z0rz> Anyone?
[08:21] <bur[n] er> xarann: can it boot a usb cd rom?
[08:21] <xarann> it doesnt matter
[08:21] <robert98374> toma thanks ill try it out
[08:21] <xarann> all i need to know
[08:21] <Toma-> z0rz: xorg config util?
[08:21] <Flannel> yigal: NO.  Firestarter does NOTHING of that.  Firestarter is equivalent to a text editor.
[08:21] <xarann> is how to load gnome from the shell
[08:21] <bur[n] er> xarann: startx ?
[08:22] <bur[n] er> xarann: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[08:22] <robert98374> toma sorry i meant the other way around so that i speak something and the computer puts it into text
[08:22] <xarann> lemme write this down lol
[08:22] <bur[n] er> xarann: did you install ubuntu-desktop?
[08:22] <z0rz> the utility that configr the xorg file....
[08:22] <xarann> yes
[08:22] <bur[n] er> xarann: sure you have gnome-desktop available to run?
[08:22] <xarann> i picked ubuntu
[08:22] <Toma-> robert98374: ahhhh. that, im not sure of :)
[08:22] <bur[n] er> xarann: if you installed ubuntu-desktop, it should have taken care of installing gdm which is a login manager, you should never see a shell
[08:23] <xarann> in the pxe-netboot list, wich also has kubuntu/server/edubuntu etc
[08:23] <robert98374> ill ask in the fourms
[08:23] <yigal> Flannel: if you want to believe that, then please enjoy yourself, Firestarter starts iptable rules. I am too drunk and am enjoying life too much too argue it is up to you to believe me or yourself
[08:23] <z0rz> Anyone know where the xorg config util located?
[08:23] <kermitus> this is wierd, why is there a graphical disk tool on the live cd, and not one on the full installation? I am running v. 7?
[08:23] <xarann> alright ill give it a try
[08:23] <bur[n] er> z0rz: util?  i konw the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to generate it
[08:24] <piNNoy> ok i dont see the option to put it in 1 icon -- im trying to get all of the applications places and system menus in ONE icon ??
[08:24] <z0rz> bur[n] er: I thought that was it
[08:24] <bur[n] er> piNNoy: main menu
[08:24] <UnluckyMike> piNNoy: its the MAIN MENU not menu bar
[08:24] <piNNoy> unluck bur: TY
[08:24] <predaeus> z0rz, as far as I know there is no real utility for setting xorg's settings yet. In most cases you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup) by hand
[08:25] <piNNoy> thats what i was looking for
[08:25] <taggart> can someone with login credentials on ubuntuforums.org do me a favor?
[08:25] <predaeus> piNNoy, I think there is some applet called gnome menu or somethign
[08:25] <predaeus> that would be 1 icon
[08:25] <bur[n] er> taggart: you can get a username easily by registering... or use bugmenot?
[08:25] <piNNoy> pred: i got it its just called "Main Menu"
[08:25] <predaeus> ok nice
[08:26] <yigal> z0rz: what do you want to do with xorg?
[08:26] <bur[n] er> there is also another main menu... gnome-main-menu which is like the opensuse menu
[08:26] <bur[n] er> it's a seperate package though
[08:26] <z0rz> I'm tweaking it to get x to start again
[08:26] <insmod> any fix for shuting down an acer laptop? works sometimes and not others
[08:27] <bur[n] er> insmod: check log files for clues?
[08:27] <yigal> z0rz:what kind of card do you have?
[08:27] <predaeus> kermitus, do you get any graphical interface when running the installed version?
[08:27] <insmod> also from 6.10 to present atheros wifi doesn't work only ndiswrapper will load it
[08:28] <taggart> bur[n] er: ah I see that now, I had to go to the main page
[08:28] <insmod> bur[n] er: no logs for shutdown because well it tjinks it did
[08:28] <kermitus> predaeus: Well yeah, when i installed useing the live cd I was able to use a graphical version of a partitioning tool.. part something or other..
[08:28] <taggart> bur[n] er: dunno why you need to register to download the attachments....
[08:28] <insmod> thinks
[08:28] <hidan> hello guys, besides, Qemu and Vmware, is there any other free virtualisation software that I can use?
[08:28] <yigal> hidan: VirtualBox rocks
[08:28] <yigal> hidan: really
[08:28] <thelostpatrol> where are the GDM themes located?
[08:29] <predaeus> kermitus, ah that's called  gparted   if it is not installed by default you can get it with "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[08:29] <kermitus> predaeus: but now? with it installed, no, I dont see any graphical version of a disk utility
[08:29] <aubade> 's damn cheap.
[08:29] <Kr0ntab> hidan, there's also xensource
[08:29] <kermitus> predaeus: thats what I wanted to know, I just forgot the name.. thanks i know how to get it.. appriciate that
[08:29] <thelostpatrol> where are the GDM themes located?
[08:29] <insmod> bur[n] er: some on google think it is snd_hda_intel but even unloading that it only partly works
[08:29] <predaeus> kermitus, np you are welcome
[08:29] <yigal> Kr0ntab: is xensource xen?
[08:29] <Kr0ntab> yes
[08:30] <heskethj> Hi guys, My friend wants to connect to IRC to get help on a problem he is having. He is trying to connect from his university where they use a proxy. I assume the proxy is only forwarding port 80 (correct me as I don't know much about proxies) so is there a way to set up gaim or xchat to connect to freenode via his proxy. (He currently has the proxy settings configured in gnome as synaptic works fine)
[08:30] <hidan> yigal: kr0ntab: virtualbox and xensource? ahhh thank you. :) 'Cos i used partimage to backup my ubuntu installation and I want to test the image before i dismantle my hdd.
[08:30] <thelostpatrol> where are the GDM themes located?
[08:31] <yigal> hidan: xensource will work better when it works VirtualBox will work
[08:31] <predaeus> heskethj, there is an option for proxy server and port in xchat, not sure if that will work though
[08:31] <sanityx> Would the low latency kernel be good for audio recording?
[08:31] <insmod> heskethj: there are web sites that will be your proxy to alow that
[08:31] <Kr0ntab> thansen, /usr/share/gdm/themes
[08:31] <hidan> yigal: what do you mean by "xensource will work better when it works"?
[08:31] <Kr0ntab> oops
[08:31] <Kr0ntab> thelostpatrol, , /usr/share/gdm/themes
[08:31] <heskethj> predaeus: gaim too has proxy settings and they are on "gnomes proxy settings" by default, yet my friend can't connect to host
[08:31] <thelostpatrol> yep :) thanks
[08:32] <heskethj> insmod: could you give me an example please. I googled before with little luck
[08:32] <insmod> sanityx: lol that is what it is for
[08:32] <sanityx> insmod, I wasnt sure
[08:32] <insmod> heskethj: no idea i just remember reading it
[08:32] <yigal> hidan: Xen is meant to work natively, with very good memory allocation, basically running an OS natively, VirtualBox is polish on older technology that will work, Xen is still not perfected though
[08:32] <cinex> does anyopne knlow of a way to install ubuntu over a network on a headless (only heasdless juring install) machine?
[08:32] <insmod> sanityx: i use it for jackd and ardour
[08:33] <Flannel> !install | cinex
[08:33] <ubotu> cinex: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:33] <cinex> thanks Flannel
[08:33] <sanityx> insmod, What do those do? (I do nothing with audio)
[08:33] <hidan> yigal: oohhh i see! :D "natively"? oh okay thank you for the explanations. ^^
[08:34] <insmod> sanityx: jackd is a sound server for recording apps and ardour is a linux version of protools for a recording studio
[08:34] <yigal> hidan: if you just want to test use VirtualBox, if you want to tinker and perft use Xen :)
[08:34] <beny> kjojkkkj
[08:34] <yigal> hidan: s/perft/perfect
[08:34] <sanityx> insmod, Sweet. Is there anything like Reason?
[08:34] <leku> how do i turn down the system beep?
[08:34] <leku> it is super loud
[08:34] <hidan> yigal: oh lol no, i don't want to tinker right. :P
[08:34] <sanityx> leku, sudo rmmod pcspkr
[08:34] <heskethj> leku: I don't think you can turn it down but you can turn it off in the sound settings in System->preferences->sound
[08:34] <insmod> sanityx: i have never used windows reason does....
[08:35] <yigal> leku: prefrences:sound
[08:35] <sanityx> heskethj, rmmod pcspkr
[08:35] <leku> k thx
[08:35] <insmod> sanityx: effects ?
[08:35] <leku> much need
[08:35] <leku> thx
[08:35] <sanityx> insmod, It does just about everything. Its a fully virtualized recording studio.
[08:35] <sanityx> insmod, You have *never* used windows?
[08:36] <insmod> sanityx: so like protools -- or more like cakewalk?
[08:36] <sanityx> insmod, Like way more complex then either one :-D
[08:36] <sanityx> insmod, At least according to my dj friend
[08:36] <beny> jgjjg
[08:37] <insmod> sanityx: i use ardour jamin to mix and for fast uses audacity -- with ladspa plugins
[08:37] <piNNoy> whats the most usefull app in ubuntu?
[08:37] <yigal> piNNoy: for what?
[08:37] <piNNoy> in general
[08:37] <insmod> sanityx: i think it is a dj tool plugins -- what i mentioned should be fine
[08:38] <yigal> piNNoy: thats crzy context is necessary for your question
[08:38] <piNNoy> haha: sry
[08:38] <thelostpatrol> why does my linux tell me i'm not the owner
[08:38] <piNNoy> just wondering what ppl use....like my most used app is gaim
[08:38] <lkthomas> LOL
[08:38] <yigal> piNNoy: I use vim
[08:38] <sanityx> insmod, Yeah I don't do much. I was just curious what the kernel was for.
[08:38] <piNNoy> vim =
[08:38] <cwraig> PiNNoy: amarok - hands down the one i use most
[08:38] <sanityx> insmod, Have you noticed any performance issues in non-audio apps with that kernel?
[08:38] <lkthomas> I still don't understand why ubuntu getting this popular than debian
[08:38] <thelostpatrol> why does my linux tell me i'm not the owner?
[08:38] <insmod> sanityx: there is also a dj tool i can't remember the name though -- just look it up
[08:39] <piNNoy> amarok -
[08:39] <yigal> piNNoy: lastbash
[08:39] <insmod> sanityx: no
[08:39] <piNNoy> k saving all these so ican research them
[08:39] <cwraig> piNNoy: it is a kde app, Music player, Really powerful
[08:39] <UnluckyMike> piNNoy: http://www,linuxeq.com
[08:39] <Flannel> thelostpatrol: because you're running as a regular user, not an administrator
[08:39] <pilibeen> in a totally unrelated question: Does anybody know how i'd go about formatting a citation for this site: http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do?oppId=11350&mode=VIEW    (in APA format)?
[08:40] <cwraig> PiNNoy: http://amarok.kde.org
[08:40] <yigal> pilibeen: using what language?
[08:40] <thelostpatrol> Flannel, i only made one username so far, what else can i get in as?
[08:40] <Flannel> pilibeen: #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[08:40] <Flannel> !sudo | thelostpatrol
[08:40] <ubotu> thelostpatrol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:40] <piNNoy> ty
[08:40] <insmod> sanityx: http://linux-sound.org/
[08:40] <Flannel> thelostpatrol: that's correct.  Your initial uesrname isn't an admin user, use sudo (or gksu for graphical programs) to run the programs as the admin
[08:40] <insmod> sanityx: there is adj section
[08:41] <zulfajuniadi> anyone here knows how to play .3gp files from ubuntu?
[08:41] <piNNoy> i love ubuntu.
[08:41] <piNNoy> lol
[08:41] <piNNoy> i have to learn all the commands and shortcuts
[08:41] <UnluckyMike> zulfajuniadi: bit sure about 3gp, have yo tried vlc?
[08:41] <xplodr> is there a way to install vmware-server-1.03 in Feisty x64?
[08:42] <yigal> piNNoy: don't spend time at this just learn it naturally really it works better this way
[08:42] <xplodr> it does not work
[08:42] <insmod> sanityx: this looks cool --- http://www.ultramixer.com/
[08:42] <zulfajuniadi> i'll try that UnluckyMike
[08:42] <sanityx> insmod, if I was going to do anything like that I'd buy turntables.
[08:43] <piNNoy> yigal: better to find out commands like holding crtl alt and left clicking mouse n moving it.
[08:43] <raistlin_kell> greetings ubuntuians :)
[08:43] <piNNoy> .=)
[08:43] <piNNoy> i love my clear cube
[08:43] <yigal> piNNoy: :) its cool
[08:43] <insmod> sanityx: :)
[08:43] <Kr0ntab> wassap raistlin_kell
[08:43] <sanityx> It looks to me like an updated version of PCDJ
[08:44] <raistlin_kell> heya kr0ntab... 1st time here. just discovered the kubuntu goodness!
[08:44] <Kr0ntab> ahh... cool
[08:45] <Kr0ntab> first time to ubuntu period?  or just Kubuntu
[08:45] <raistlin_kell> i'm a debian fan (and still am - windoze suxs!!!) 1st time to ubuntu
[08:45] <raistlin_kell> and also KDE... hence kubuntu
[08:45] <xplodr> has anyone managed to install VMWARE-SERVER-1.03 on Feisty x64?
[08:45] <piNNoy> is firefox the best internet explorer?
[08:45] <Kr0ntab> very good ... nice to have you aboard.
[08:46] <yigal>  piNNoy: I like epiphany
[08:46] <UnluckyMike> piNNoy: decide for yourseld
[08:46] <UnluckyMike> man my typing is way off tonight
[08:46] <piNNoy> dont feel like installing each one
[08:46] <yigal> piNNoy: konqueror is nice also because it is a file manager and web browser at the same time
[08:46] <predaeus> !browser > piNNoy   and there is more
[08:46] <raistlin_kell> heard good things about "automatix"! Anyone tell me a little more about it?
[08:46] <piNNoy> but ty very much for that site it owns.
[08:46] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, Think of Ubuntu as Debian: Desktop Edition
[08:46] <Flannel> !automatix | raistlin_kell
[08:46] <ubotu> raistlin_kell: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:46] <sanityx> !automatix raistlin_kell
[08:46] <raistlin_kell> thats why i'm wrapped in it sanityx!!!
[08:46] <piNNoy> !browser | pinnoy
[08:47] <sanityx> hehe
[08:47] <unimatrix9> !WorkForMe
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <unimatrix9> hmm?
[08:47] <rubberducky> Hello.
[08:47] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, Well, I would only reccomend using automatix if you like braking systems.
[08:47] <raistlin_kell> the installer for ubuntu blew me away!!! great job to the dev team and community alike!!!!
[08:47] <rubberducky> I was wondering if someone could help me fix my sound?
[08:47] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, Also if you like having to reinstall rather than dist-upgrade.
[08:47] <rubberducky> I'm using a bose usb set
[08:47] <kennykix> could someone help me to install grub? i have XP and Ubuntu 7.04 installed already...
[08:47] <rubberducky> and i googled it and came up with no responses..
[08:47] <Flannel> !grub | kennykix
[08:47] <sanityx> kennykix, You isntalled xp second didnt you
[08:47] <yigal> raistlin_kell: tell me about it comapred to Debian the installer is very nice
[08:47] <ubotu> kennykix: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:47] <Flannel> !sound | rubberducky
[08:48] <ubotu> rubberducky: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:48] <raistlin_kell> ok.. . so automatix is in testing?
[08:48] <MSTK> hey, does anyone know of a good CLI e-mail app?
[08:48] <gehel_> MSTK: pine
[08:48] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, Automatix will NEVER be part of mainline ubuntu.
[08:48] <zakk> is there a psubuntu channel?
[08:48] <gehel_> MSTK: or emacs
[08:48] <MSTK> raistlin_kell - it's no more finished now than it will ever be.  It's just perpetually unstable, because it isn't supported.
[08:48] <piNNoy> can amarok play movies too?
[08:48] <yigal> sanityx:  Automatix should not be a part of mainline Ubuntu.
[08:48] <MSTK> gehel_ - thanks.  I'll check it out.  Isn't emacs a text editor though?
[08:48] <raistlin_kell> the kubuntu installer is like loading knoppix with a lovely desktop icon called "install"...
[08:48] <UnluckyMike> piNNoy: no
[08:48] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, Its no longer needed with feisty anyway. Feisty automatically installs codecs when you try to play MP3s and videos.
[08:49] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, Yes, and with no bloat :-D
[08:49] <piNNoy> ah... which program can play songs/movies the best?
[08:49] <yigal> MSTK: emacs is more than a text editor
[08:49] <gehel_> MSTK: emacs is almost a full OS, I haave seen HOWTO on how to make emacs drive your coffee machine
[08:49] <piNNoy> kplayer?videolan?xine?mplayer?
[08:49] <unimatrix9> i like automatix...
[08:49] <unimatrix9> :)
[08:49] <clearze1> piNNoy: vlc has been the best for me
[08:49] <MSTK> sanityx - on what programs?  I tried to play some songs and they wouldn't support them, on Feisty.  I would up having to do it  the old Edgy way.
[08:49] <zakk> I'm trying to replace YDL on my ps3 with psubuntu
[08:49] <sanityx> unimatrix9, God luck with that.
[08:49] <yigal> piNNoy: I use lastbash to play lastfm, mpd/mpc to play my library
[08:49] <unimatrix9> its working fine
[08:49] <sanityx> MSTK, MP3s?
[08:49] <MSTK> gehel_ - ah.  Thanks, i'll look into that.
[08:49] <rubberducky> Flannel: I already read all that stuff
[08:49] <zakk> but I can't seem to get the psubuntu boot loader to work instead
[08:49] <UnluckyMike> piNNoy: i don't know, I use VLC for video and songbird
[08:49] <raistlin_kell> i was happy with the deb installer but the kubuntu installer was sensational.... a desktop to tinker with before the OS goes into the HDD... plus i configs my wifi before doing the install! thats a BIG ONE on windoze and Mr Gates!!!
[08:49] <rubberducky> still can't get it to work :/
[08:49] <unimatrix9> and its good luck
[08:50] <Stormx2> Firefox no longer works. It seg faults the moment I run it. Suggestions?
[08:50] <sanityx> MSTK, MP3s play fine in Totem, Rhythmbox, Banshee with Feisty's codec installers. Also VLC plays them as well.
[08:50] <piNNoy> uh o help storm pls.
[08:50] <rubberducky> Flannel: I'm running the bose usb companion 5
[08:50] <taggart> Stormx2: try running with strace
[08:50] <yigal> Stormx2: all the time? even after a clena reboot?
[08:50] <gehel_> My iPod (hfsplus) get automounted, but when unmounted the mount point in /media isnt removed. Where do I configure that ?
[08:50] <yigal> Stormx2: s/clena/clean
[08:50] <MSTK> sanityx - VLC plays everything.  I'm talking about Non-Free codecs such as wmv.
[08:50] <raistlin_kell> hows clamav & KlamAV on kubuntu??? all good?
[08:50] <rubberducky> Does anyone know how to get a usb speaker set to play sound?
[08:50] <unimatrix9> i like easyubuntu too...
[08:51] <piNNoy> hmm ill get VLC
[08:51] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:51] <rubberducky> i have the right device enabled...
[08:51] <rubberducky> just no sound :/
[08:51] <clearze1> raistlin_kell: I use AVG for linux to scan my files. Clamav is good too though
[08:51] <sanityx> MSTK, I can play WMV just fine in Totem
[08:51] <kennykix> ok, so i think i've done this around the wrong way...i had xp installed then installed ubuntu...
[08:51] <piNNoy> would you all recommend a firewall in ubuntu?
[08:52] <sanityx> kennykix, Thats the correct way
[08:52] <rubberducky> Anyone?
[08:52] <yigal> piNNoy: install Firestarter
[08:52] <Flannel> kennykix: no, that's correct.  Ubuntu didn't install grub?  Where did you tell it to install?
[08:52] <kennykix> so how do i get to ubuntu?
[08:52] <unimatrix9> how to get usb speakers working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254474
[08:52] <raistlin_kell> i've used clamAV in my deb boxes but the KlamAV has dramas with the automatic scanning function
[08:52] <clearze1> piNNoy: iptables is built in shorewall is the GUI i think
[08:52] <piNNoy> www.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <Stormx2> taggart, this is the last line before the seg fault: "open("/usr/lib/firefox/chrome/installed-chrome.txt", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"
[08:52] <MSTK> sanityx - that's odd.  I guess the problem is limited to me, then.
[08:52] <sanityx> MSTK, I wouldn't go that far. File a bug report maybe
[08:53] <Flannel> kennykix: Where did you install GRUB?
[08:53] <getoo> can i use apt-get search ...
[08:53] <unimatrix9> i like the ubuntu dell laptop too...
[08:53] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:53] <piNNoy> haha
[08:53] <getoo> or theres no search feature
[08:53] <kennykix> as far as i could tell it didnt?
[08:53] <Stormx2> i'll just reboot...
[08:53] <Flannel> !grub | kennykix
[08:53] <ubotu> kennykix: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:53] <sanityx> getoo, apt-cache search
[08:53] <Flannel> kennykix: follow the guide on the first link there
[08:53] <getoo> sanityx: thanx
[08:53] <raistlin_kell> getoo... is apt-get search or apt-cache search? (i'm new to ubuntu and long time fan of Apt)
[08:54] <Flannel> raistlin_kell: apt-cache search
[08:54] <sanityx> getoo, If you're having trouble finding the right packages, synaptic may be helpful. It displays more full descriptions of each package. apt-cache search displays only one line descriptions.
[08:54] <raistlin_kell> excellent.. thanks Flannel
[08:54] <yigal> raistlin_kell: I suggest you use aptitude for search
[08:54] <getoo> got it
[08:54] <yigal>  raistlin_kell: aptitude search
[08:54] <raistlin_kell> aptitude works for me....
[08:54] <sanityx> yigal, Poo on aptitude. Synaptic ftw!
[08:54] <taggart> Stormx2: maybe the package got corrupted or something, are you up to date with upgrades? (like maybe you are missing a component)
[08:54] <getoo> i use synaptic only to remove stuff
[08:54] <getoo> ie totem ;-)
[08:54] <yigal> sanityx: if you like gui fine I lie cli
[08:54] <MSTK> sanityx - basically all I did was plug in my iPod after a fresh reinstall.  rhythmbox auto-loaded and mounted it.  However, non e of the songs would play.  I proceeded to do it "The Edgy Way", as I remembered, and things worked fine.
[08:55] <raistlin_kell> anyone suing mythTV on kubuntu?
[08:55] <piNNoy> what program do you use to download mp3's and movies(or clips)?
[08:55] <MSTK> maybe I didn't try it out with VLC or totem
[08:55] <taggart> ah he left, bummer
[08:55] <raistlin_kell> *using
[08:55] <sanityx> MSTK, Interesting. I'm listening to MP3s in banshee right now. Btw, Banshee is far superior to rhythmbox :-D
[08:55] <sanityx> Give it a try.
[08:55] <sanityx> It has ipod support and all that
[08:55] <unimatrix9> piNNoy bittorent / frostwire / azurus etc
[08:55] <raistlin_kell> is xmms avail also?
[08:55] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, of course :-D
[08:55] <sanityx> raistlin_kell, xmms is old school :-D
[08:55] <yigal> sanityx: I think almost everything is superior to rhythmbox
[08:56] <raistlin_kell> kubuntu. = sensational
[08:56] <sanityx> yigal, I concur.
[08:56] <raistlin_kell> later... got to unpack a rack!
[08:56] <unimatrix9> xmms - use beep-mediaplayer
[08:56] <Kr0ntab> laters
[08:56] <MSTK> sanityx - I shall.  The reason I initially chose Rhythmbox was because it wouldn't work on my Edgy.  Rhythmbox was the only app  that wouldn't crash.  Maybe with this fresh reinstall fate will deal me a new hand.
[08:56] <getoo> hmm apt-cache search will not show if u have it installed or not
[08:56] <getoo> still very helpful
[08:56] <rubberducky> that didnt fix my usb sound problems
[08:57] <sanityx> MSTK, Hopefully. I've been using Banshee for 3 days and I'm in love. Its about as close to iTunes as anything in the repositories gets.
[08:57] <unimatrix9> how to get usb speakers working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254474 ( did not help? )
[08:57] <rubberducky> nope
[08:57] <unimatrix9> hmm, to bad
[08:57] <unimatrix9> sorry
[08:57] <rubberducky> All that talked about was getting the buttons to control them to work
[08:57] <piNNoy> hmm trying to get bit torret i have ubuntu which can it run ? rpm or deb?
[08:57] <rubberducky> not getting them to actually play sound
[08:57] <xange> gnome is auto mounting my external usb harddrive and i don't see it in the fstab, how can I change it so that more than just root can write to it?
[08:57] <MSTK> sanityx - unfortunately, I doubt anything will ever happen soon to satiate my need for a Video iPod updater that supports video  syncing.
[08:57] <yigal> piNNoy: deb but convert rpm with alien to deb
[08:57] <sanityx> xange, You know, I hate that. I at always forget how to do tha t as well.
[08:57] <MSTK> it's currently the only reason I ever boot onto Windows occasionally.
[08:58] <clearze1> piNNoy: .deb files are ubuntu. Because it is debian based
[08:58] <sanityx> MSTK, Rockbox perhaps?
[08:58] <unimatrix9> piNNoy, bittorrent is already on you ubuntu box
[08:58] <piNNoy> ty.
[08:58] <unimatrix9> just klick on torrent
[08:58] <MSTK> sanityx - rockbox supports video syncing?
[08:58] <piNNoy> so .deb files i can run
[08:58] <rubberducky> anyone have any experience
[08:58] <piNNoy> k
[08:58] <rubberducky> with the bose companion 5?
[08:58] <DanaG> Hmm, I finally found out what "iChat Presence" is.
[08:58] <xange> sanityx: well if you figure it out you wanna let me know :)
[08:58] <pixael> pinnoy yeah debs are cool
[08:58] <piNNoy> ty.
[08:58] <yigal> MSTK: it depends what model ipod you have
[08:58] <sanityx> MSTK, Not exactley. Rockbox is open source firmware for the ipod. Perhaps it lets you add videos through drag and drop, like most mp3 players do.
[08:58] <piNNoy> learning alot.
[08:59] <mojojojo_> hello
[08:59] <sanityx> MSTK, Also I think iPod Linux can play videos,
[08:59] <pixael> Pinnoy if you are in kubunto apt-get install ktorrent :)
[08:59] <rubberducky> Noone?
[08:59] <KDan> hey, i'm running ktorrent and it crashes every once in a while
[08:59] <sanityx> piNNoy, If you need a torrent client download deluge. The main site has a .deb for it. Its far superior to any other GTK+ torrent client.
[08:59] <KDan> i ran it under strace, produced a monster file, and the first line i can identify as an error is:
[08:59] <KDan> 12180 <... close resumed> )             = -1 EBADF (Bad file descriptor)
[09:00] <mojojojo_> I can't run VMWare image if it is located on NTFS partition. Can it be somehow solved?
[09:00] <KDan> later EBADF starts appearing all over the place
[09:00] <DanaG> It's the "Bonjour" support for Gaim.
[09:00] <sanityx> mojojojo_, Nope. I tried running vmware images off ntfs-3g too. Doesn't work.
[09:00] <DanaG> http://repository.debuntu.org
[09:00] <rubberducky> man im so mad
[09:00] <rubberducky> :/
[09:00] <MSTK> sanityx - I'm sort of looking for an all-in-one solution such as iTunes or Banshee.  I've hyet to give iPod Linux/Rockbox  a try because, last I checked, there was no (relatively) stable video support.
[09:00] <KDan> any thoughts as to what could cause the "Bad File Description" problem?
[09:00] <teenbeat2007> hi guys question does any one know where to find driver for the iomega zip drive paralel
[09:01] <sanityx> DanaG, What's debuntu.org?
[09:02] <unimatrix9> do you need an driver for that?
[09:02] <nbound> any ideas on how to mount a UDF format dvd burnt in vista
[09:02] <Bacta> I downloaded the Beta version of the latest version of Ubuntu, is it out of beta now?
[09:02] <nbound> Bacta, yes, but it will update to full version anyway
[09:02] <Flannel> Bacta: feisty was released a few weeks ago, yes.
[09:02] <unimatrix9> zip drive read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29441&highlight=imm+module
[09:02] <teenbeat2007> thanx
[09:03] <Bacta> so I can install the beta and it'll be fine?
[09:03] <teenbeat2007> i think i need an driver
[09:03] <DanaG> Oh, debuntu has a few newer versions of things.
[09:03] <jcrose> hey, i updated to feisty fawn not too long ago and have a continuing sound issue with flash apps in firefox
[09:03] <DanaG> The Gaim there is actually an older version number, but it adds some features.
[09:03] <jcrose> anyone know how to fix this?
[09:03] <clearze1> Bacta: You will have to download a lot of updates. Other than that you will be fine.
[09:03] <Bacta> thanks
[09:03] <getoo> anything compatible for voicechat that works with windows
[09:03] <getoo> ?
[09:04] <zakk> gahh
[09:04] <pixael> yeadigging the debuntu logo hehehe
[09:04] <zakk> wtf
[09:04] <BHSPitMonkey> getoo, Ekiga, Skype
[09:04] <zakk> psubuntu defaults to 573x384
[09:04] <nbound> anyone have any ideas on how to mount a UDF format dvd burnt in vista?
[09:04] <getoo> BHSPitMonkey: thank u
[09:04] <predaeus> getoo, also teamspeak
[09:04] <lkthomas> guys, can I upgrade from debian to ubuntu onfly without reinstall the whole thing ?
[09:04] <BHSPitMonkey> predaeus, ehhhhh...
[09:04] <BHSPitMonkey> ts has its own place
[09:04] <getoo> predaeus: thank u
[09:04] <BHSPitMonkey> getoo, "you" are welcome.
[09:05] <jcrose> has anyone else had a flash sound problem in feisty fawn?
[09:06] <BHSPitMonkey> jcrose, what kind
[09:06] <DanaG> Flash doesn't work in it, however.
[09:06] <Flannel> lkthomas: you can try going from debian, but it most likely won't work
[09:06] <lkthomas> Flannel, grrr, I hate debian
[09:06] <jcrose> i got flash working at first
[09:06] <jcrose> video and sound
[09:06] <jcrose> video still works, but sound won't
[09:06] <phy3> nhound ---- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2556496
[09:06] <BHSPitMonkey> lkthomas, I'm pretty sure you CAN do that.
[09:06] <teenbeat2007> unimatrix9: how can i establish drives device names
[09:06] <jcrose> i'm pretty sure it's adobe flash
[09:06] <lkthomas> BHSPitMonkey, but not sure if it will works
[09:06] <jcrose> should i try reinstalling flash?
[09:07] <BHSPitMonkey> lkthomas, I've actually heard of that being completely fine and doable.  Just be a repo change-out, an apt-get update, and a dist-upgrade
[09:07] <Hamm_desktop> i just used package manager to install wine    .. but no shortcuts appeared.  ... where did it go?
[09:08] <BHSPitMonkey> Hamm_desktop, wine doesn't have a frontend.
[09:08] <pirx> hey! how do i enable root to run graphical programs locally on "this" computer? i have done xhost +localhost and symlinked the .Xauthority file from the user that runs X to roots home directory. i stille get "cant open display"
[09:08] <jcrose> if u want a frontend, you're best bet is crossover
[09:08] <BHSPitMonkey> Hamm_desktop, you double-click a .exe, or use "wine something.exe" on a terminal.
[09:09] <leku> how do I configure my system to use the truetype fonts? i think I installed em already with automatix2
[09:10] <predaeus> !automatix > leku
[09:10] <Gerro> Hamm_desktop: wine DOES have a frontend its winecfg
[09:10] <alastair37> so, i'm trying to get a QuickCam Pro 5000 webcam to work.
[09:10] <predaeus> leku, you can do something like fonts:/// in nautilus to see all installed fonts and I thnk it supports drag-n-drop
[09:10] <alastair37> i found the following wiki:
[09:10] <alastair37> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech?highlight=%28webcam%29
[09:10] <lkthomas> BHSPitMonkey, you are not serious, don't you ?
[09:11] <alastair37> i downloaded uvcvideo, and changed the line in the makefile as instructed
[09:11] <BHSPitMonkey> lkthomas, was that some sort of sentence? :P
[09:11] <b9anders> I just installed zenwalk to use alongside ubuntu but GRUB didn't recognise it. How do I edit it to point to my zenwalk partition as well?
[09:11] <alastair37> but now, this happens:
[09:11] <alastair37> elliot@elliotcomp:~/trunk$ sudo make
[09:11] <alastair37> Building USB Video Class driver...
[09:11] <alastair37> cd: 1: can't cd to /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/build
[09:11] <alastair37> make: *** [uvcvideo]  Error 2
[09:11] <BHSPitMonkey> lkthomas, google up some debian to ubuntu articles
[09:11] <sanityx> For whoever I was talking to before about Banshee, I actually did just have a codec issue, but I resolved it, if you're still there, say something.
[09:11] <lkthomas> LOL, ok
[09:13] <leku> !WorksForMe
[09:13] <leku> what ist he default font that windows uses?
[09:13] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:13] <sanityx> leku, For icons and stuff? Or for text in word?
[09:13] <kermitus> WooHoo got my wireless to work! LoL sorta, im 2 feet from the wireless router and my signal strength is onlly 56%, never buy a belkin pcmcia wireless card
[09:13] <jcrose> i tried reinstalling adobe flash and got an error
[09:13] <kennykix> sanityx: could you post that grub site again, just booted into ubuntu live cd...
[09:13] <stittel> Good morning!
[09:13] <sanityx> !grub | kennykix
[09:13] <ubotu> kennykix: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:13] <kennykix> thanks alot =)
[09:14] <stittel> Can anybody tell me how I can access the Ubuntu repository? I mean not as an apt-repository, but as an CVS or Subversion (or whatever Ubuntu is using) repository.
[09:15] <Hamm_desktop> when i installed wine on my laptop it made a few shortcuts in Applications/
[09:15] <Frogzoo> stittel: point your web browser at it
[09:15] <Hamm_desktop> but not on this computer.....
[09:15] <BHSPitMonkey> stittel, sudo apt-get source <package>...
[09:15] <jcrose> E: yiff-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:15] <leku> sanity: dunno, just the most commonly used
[09:15] <Hamm_desktop> it had a file browser.... how do i find this
[09:15] <B1zz> hi, havig issues with beryl, ive set it up using several tutorials, yet it still does not work.  Latest one i tried is this one, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX, im in the beryl session, but looks like gnome still
[09:15] <jcrose> anyone know what that means?
[09:15] <stittel> Frogzoo: At what?
[09:15] <leku> the default fonts in ubuntu seem kinda ugly
[09:15] <Frogzoo> stittel: the repo url
[09:16] <Frogzoo> leku: enable sub pixel shading
[09:16] <leku> how?
[09:16] <BHSPitMonkey> Hamm_desktop, I know what you're talking about, but I'm not too sure what makes those shortcuts come about.  Maybe try asking your question in #winehq
[09:16] <stittel> Is anything in developement always commited to the apt repositories?
[09:16] <leku> and what are the default ubuntu fonts so i can put em back ;)
[09:16] <Frogzoo> leku: prefs -> fonts
[09:16] <Hamm_desktop> BHSPitMonkey:  ty :)
[09:16] <stittel> I mean, how do developers QA packages before putting them to, say, gutsy?
[09:17] <MSTK> okay, pine isn't in the repositories (alpine is, which doesn't accept stmp authentification), and I'm not willing yet to try emacs (brainwashed by VIM).  Are there any other solutions to CLI E-mail?
[09:18] <stittel> I am not so much interested in getting available packages (be it source packages or binary packages), but in checking out the current progress of development.
[09:18] <rothfuss> MSTK: mutt
[09:18] <kvidell> mutt!
[09:18] <MSTK> rothfuss - thanks, I'll try that out.
[09:18] <kvidell> ah.. touche rothfuss.. touche
[09:18] <Hamm_desktop> that channel is dead lol
[09:18] <dokter_cinta> ndo.net.id
[09:18] <thelostpatrol> how do i install a different splash screen?
[09:18] <jcrose> E: yiff-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:18] <z0rz> Anyone have any recommendations on getting Dual screens working?
[09:19] <z0rz> ATI X800
[09:19] <leku> xinerama
[09:19] <stittel> For example there must be people working on a Pidgin package for gutsy, because this will become an important package that replaces Gaim, but there is no Pidgin package in gutsy yet.
[09:19] <kvidell> yiff server?
[09:19] <jcrose> thats the error i keep getting trying to fix flash
[09:19] <thelostpatrol> how do i install a different splash screen?
[09:19] <kvidell> ah
[09:19] <stittel> And also there is nothing happening in the bugtracker (like it is in case of new packages with other distributions).
[09:19] <cwraig> z0rz: go and find an NVIDIA :P
[09:19] <kvidell> so the furs are writing shockwave now
[09:19] <jcrose> but either installing or reinstalling
[09:19] <fkhan> whatsup guys
[09:19] <z0rz> cwraig: Thank you for your intellectual input.
[09:19] <jcrose> i only get video
[09:19] <thelostpatrol> how do i install a different splash screen?
[09:19] <jcrose> and no sound
[09:20] <fkhan> hey- on Feisty my gaim usage jumps to 100% with some user's MSN account
[09:20] <fkhan> im baffled- happens randomly
[09:20] <cwraig> z0rz: im just here to help
[09:20] <T0uCH> is there a command or a place to see my computer details ( ddr or sdram,  hard drive, dvd-rom, mother board...) ??????
[09:20] <fkhan> just wanted to know if anybody has seen this
[09:20] <stittel> So where can I have a look at the development of packages taking place (including changelogs) and I am not just talking about the packages that make it to the apt-repository.
[09:20] <stittel> I thought this is handled through a revision control system like CVS or Subversion.
[09:20] <kennykix> i accidentally mounted the wrong thing, how do i unmount it?
[09:20] <BHSPitMonkey> fkhan, sounds like someone you don't want to be chatting with.
[09:20] <UnluckyMike> thelostpatrol: sudo apt-get gnome-splashscreen
[09:21] <stittel> And if there is, there must be a CVS oder Subversion server, which I can access. And this is what I want: The name of such a server. :)
[09:21] <predaeus> fkhan, is the other user sending those smiley and so on animated images? a friend of mine send about 100 dancing smileys once, that brought gaim and my whole computer to its knees, had to kill gaim.
[09:21] <fkhan> hmmm
[09:21] <fkhan> maybe
[09:21] <jcrose> ???
[09:21] <z0rz> Anyone have any recommendations on getting Dual screens working on an X800 using the open source radeon drivers?
[09:21] <alastair37> i am trying to install uvcvideo. it wants there to be a build/ directory in the /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/ directory. there isn't. there is a build directory in the generic kernel directories. how do i build my driver so that it works?
[09:21] <fkhan> it doesnt happen to me-- two or three users in my office face it
[09:21] <thelostpatrol> did't work
[09:21] <cwraig> zorg: i guess you have been through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85215
[09:22] <alligator_> 'un peut il m'aider a configurer date --set dans un terminal please ?
[09:22] <thelostpatrol> that's not what i'm asking anyway
[09:22] <thelostpatrol> where's the dir for the screens?
[09:22] <fkhan> its TOTALLY random
[09:22] <clearze1> T0uCH: it depends what you want to see some commands include lspci, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:22] <UnluckyMike> thelost patrol i forgot to put install in there
[09:22] <thelostpatrol> ok
[09:22] <fkhan> problem is that its all LTSP- so everybody goes
[09:22] <leku> hey
[09:22] <leku> i'm trying to install this package and it says aclocal not found
[09:22] <leku> but aclocal is in /usr/bin
[09:22] <thelostpatrol> where does it go
[09:22] <predaeus> fkhan, that was the only problem I witnessed with msn/gaim so far, and that those weird sound messages don't work. well just use jabber in your office then
[09:23] <jcrose> hey, can someone tell me how to fix a flash problem where i only get video and no sound.  i tried reinstalling, but get the message "E: yiff-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:23] <UnluckyMike> lostpatrol: not sure
[09:23] <UnluckyMike> somewhere in the config files in your home dir
[09:23] <cwraig> z0rg: this looks better http://www.darkartistry.com/content/view/74/41/
[09:26] <jcrose> also, does anyone know how to get a linksys wireless card to work in feisty fawn?  i have a pci card (wmp54g).  according to ubuntu's documentation it should natively, but doesn't
[09:26] <giuseppe> e687
[09:26] <JacksWastedLife> how do you login in as root?
[09:26] <cwraig> sudo passwd
[09:26] <vecnah> sudo su
[09:27] <cwraig> then you can set a password for the root account and just use it like normal to login using su
[09:28] <JacksWastedLife> still wont let me use adept manager
[09:28] <JacksWastedLife> is there a way in the gui
[09:28] <jcrose> hey, can someone tell me how to fix a flash problem where i only get video and no sound.  i tried reinstalling, but get the message "E: yiff-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:30] <xarann> ok soim clueless here
[09:30] <xarann> ive installed both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[09:30] <xarann> but icant find a way to boot either
[09:31] <Flannel> xarann: GDM ought to start, and then you choose them under "Sessions"
[09:31] <xarann> if i type xstart i get some error about server couldnt connect to peer orsmth
[09:31] <sanityx> Anybody know how I can tell Totem which Audio device to use? I have a usb headset
[09:31] <xarann> it boots to bash shell
[09:31] <sanityx> The headset works in skype when I specify to use the headset and not my normal soundcard, but I don't see that option in totem/movie player.
[09:32] <xarann> is it cause this is a laptop
[09:32] <mwe> then it's probably broken if you didn't do something special to make that happen
[09:32] <jcrose> also, does anyone know how to get a linksys wireless card to work in feisty fawn?  i have a pci card (wmp54g).  according to ubuntu's documentation it should natively, but doesn't
[09:32] <jcrose> hey, can someone tell me how to fix a flash problem where i only get video and no sound.  i tried reinstalling, but get the message "E: yiff-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:32] <xarann> how do i specify 1280x800 res
[09:32] <mwe> you don't untial X startx
[09:32] <mwe> starts, even
[09:32] <Flannel> xarann: try `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start`
[09:33] <mwe> xarann: you need to figure out why it wont start or you wont be able to do anything useful
[09:33] <xarann> ive tryed sudo exec gdm
[09:33] <mwe> don't
[09:33] <xarann> and it gave err bout X not running
[09:33] <clearze1> xarann: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:33] <mwe> 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'
[09:33] <clearze1> xarann: put the display res under the monitor section
[09:34] <xarann> can i do that from my winxp ntfs part lol
[09:34] <slim> hello all
[09:34] <riaal> how do I clone my amarok arcive whit my ipod (like in itunes)? (ipod is installed and working)
[09:35] <Ahmadinejad> Hi, how do I get more than 2 workplaces?
[09:35] <jcrose> hey, can someone tell me how to fix a flash problem where i only get video and no sound.  i tried reinstalling, but get the message "E: yiff-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:35] <jcrose> hey, can someone tell me how to fix a flash problem where i only get video and no sound.  i tried reinstalling, but get the message "E: yiff-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:35] <clearze1> xarann: no, unfortunately
[09:35] <jcrose> also, does anyone know how to get a linksys wireless card to work in feisty fawn?  i have a pci card (wmp54g).  according to ubuntu's documentation it should natively, but doesn't
[09:35] <xarann> so what do i edit
[09:36] <slim> any intermediate-expert programmers here?
[09:37] <VirhYl3> slim: try #reactos
[09:37] <clearze1> xarann: I don't know in windows. It isn't the same.
[09:37] <slim> ok thanx (still new to irc)
[09:38] <Hamm_desktop> anyone know how to change the default torrent app?
[09:38] <thelostpatrol> anyone know where the splash screen directory is?
[09:38] <thelostpatrol> hamm, delete it and install something else
[09:38] <clearze1> xarann: you probably need a driver for your graphics card, if you are in windows
[09:38] <thelostpatrol> what is the name of the default ubuntu dock
[09:38] <xarann> huh?
[09:39] <xarann> i want to config X so ituses 1280x800 res
[09:39] <xarann> what do i edit
[09:40] <clearze1> xarann: gksu /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <clearze1> xarann: look for the monitor section and add "1280x800" to all of the resolutions in that section
[09:41] <gflash> hello
[09:41] <xarann> ifound a freeware app that does read/write to ext3
[09:42] <thelostpatrol> what is the name of the default ubuntu dock
[09:42] <xarann> alright im in
[09:42] <thelostpatrol> anyone know where the splash screen directory is?
[09:42] <KennyKix> ok, i've gone and done it now...when typing fdisk -l it tells me that i have a boot on all my disks??
[09:43] <gflash> i have a problem with my hp laserjet 4m network printer. it seems that it cannot print files with more than about 600kb PER PAGE. can somebody help me?
[09:43] <Spliffster> Question: are you aware of a utility to read ms windows dll information from a dll file in linux ?
[09:44] <xarann> okay so i see
[09:44] <xarann> Section "Screen"	Identifier	"Default Screen"	Device		"Generic Video Card"	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"	DefaultDepth	24	SubSection "Display"		Depth		1		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"	EndSubSection
[09:44] <xarann> i can just delete these
[09:44] <xarann> and replace with 1280x800
[09:45] <VirhYl3> I hate the whole way gconf is setup like that.  There really should be a nice GUI that does all that.
[09:45] <thelostpatrol> anyone know where the splash screen directory is?
[09:45] <afief> !sound > afief
[09:45] <xarann> theres an entry
[09:45] <xarann> for like differents depths
[09:45] <xarann> do i need to keep these
[09:45] <xarann> ori need just one like 24
[09:46] <martman> in the install, with the partitioner, how can i select a partition to be /boot
[09:46] <phy3> name it /boot
[09:47] <riaal> how do I clone my amarok arcive whit my ipod (like in itunes)? (ipod is installed and working)
[09:47] <martman> i dont see a place to name it
[09:47] <martman> (gui)
[09:47] <xarann> alright lets give this another shot
[09:47] <phy3> It is there on the install /LiveCD
[09:47] <phy3> manually partition
[09:48] <martman> yes, i can create/delete them but i dont see anything to give a label
[09:48] <phy3> lst item as I remember
[09:48] <phy3> last
[09:48] <phy3> "mount as" or similar
[09:48] <mortifera> fr
[09:48] <Flannel> martman: http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pid=753&fullsize=1
[09:48] <Flannel> martman: that page
[09:48] <KennyKix> ok, i've gone and done it now...when typing fdisk -l it tells me that i have a boot on all my disks?? and when i load into grub it cant find ubuntu partition and xp ntldr is missing...help please?
[09:48] <mortifera> oup's sorry
[09:48] <mortifera> hi
[09:49] <rappellz> hey, my asus v6j is having major sound issues in that it only works when i have a headphone plugged in. Speakers dont work.
[09:49] <afief> my volume control panel shows two sound cards although i only have one, and sound often disappears from my system
[09:50] <roshan> hey..my network configuration window doesnt open..what could be the problem
[09:51] <phy3> Matman, I created partitions:   /    /boot   /var    /home   I know it is there
[09:51] <phy3> created as ext3
[09:51] <DanaG> Oh, for Linksys thingy: try to google what module you need, then manually modprobe it.
[09:52] <martman> got it
[09:52] <martman> thanks guys
[09:52] <phy3> ha
[09:52] <VirhYl3> How do I get Jack running?
[09:52] <roshan> im not able to use the net on ubuntu...but it works just fine on my windows partition..
[09:52] <VirhYl3> i applied jackd in synaptic already.
[09:53] <magnetron> roshan: what kind of internet connection do you have? how is your computer connected?
[09:54] <Dark_Razer> Hi, I've added two hard drives to my ubuntu system, and I'd like to set them up in software RAID?
[09:54] <roshan> i have a dsl connection...works just fine on xp..
[09:54] <magnetron> roshan: yes, but how is your computer connected to the dsl connection?
[09:55] <inuyasha> do ati, composite, beryl, coexist togethere_
[09:55] <roshan> i have a router..
[09:55] <inuyasha> ?
[09:55] <Alpha736> hello everyone
[09:55] <magnetron> roshan: and an ethernet card?
[09:56] <Alpha736> does anyone know how i get ubuntu to automatically mount all my drives as soon as i logon to my user?
[09:56] <roshan> yea...
[09:56] <magnetron> roshan: or a wireless card?
[09:56] <roshan> ethernet card...
[09:57] <magnetron> roshan: there is a network manager applet in the upper right corner.  try clicking on it
[09:57] <roshan> im using xp right now...im not able to connect to the net in ubuntu
[09:57] <JacksWastedLife> how do you use adept manager, without being able to run it in root i cant use it
[09:58] <MSTK> can anyone help me configure pine for gmail?
[09:59] <magnetron> roshan: through the network manager you can access most network settings. try that
[09:59] <evan_> several of my modules on my laptop are not loading
[09:59] <roshan> eth0 and dhcp is enabled in ubuntu
[10:00] <slim> ubuntu rox!!!
[10:01] <roshan> network manager used to open before...but now it says..."opening Networking" and then it just closes
[10:01] <JacksWastedLife> ive tried running Adept Manager with gksudo as root and it still errors saying must be logged in as root to install software
[10:02] <Alpha736> soo... i have 2 volumes that aren't beeing mounted until i enter my root password? can someone help?
[10:02] <roshan> should i try reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:02] <strabes> Alpha736: are they in your fstab or are you just plugging them in?
[10:03] <nomin> roshan: I've had something like that happen then I restart X and it will work.
[10:03] <roshan> ohh..thanx a lot...ill try that
[10:03] <ltracy> I'm having a problem getting ACPI events to work on my Thinkpad R51e.  I'm a little new to this, but it looks like the events aren't being reported to acpid
[10:03] <Alpha736> they are internal sata150 drives, that are connected when i boot my computer
[10:04] <Alpha736> one is a 250GB drive i use for general storage, the other is an identical 250gb drive i use for audio/video storage
[10:04] <ltracy> I really want the lid close to suspend.
[10:04] <slim> does any1 know of any extra repositories?
[10:04] <roshan> can someone tell me how to configure my ethernet card on ubuntu to connect to the net?
[10:05] <strabes> !source-o-matic | slim
[10:05] <ubotu> slim: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:05] <bullgard4> What is the proper program to format a 512 MB memory stick which I bought yesterday?
[10:05] <slim> thanx alot
[10:05] <strabes> bullgard4: there are many. you could use gparted if you want a gui
[10:05] <evan_> Hmm I' have trouble with my laptop I tried to install fglrx from ati site and ran module-assistant and depmod and now I have several modules that will not load
[10:06] <roshan> can someone tell me how to configure my ethernet card on ubuntu to connect to the net?
[10:06] <strabes> evan_: did you run sudo depmod -a ?
[10:06] <bullgard4> strabes: I will give it a try. I like gparted better than the command-line tools.
[10:06] <jimbo> This really is a long shot, and possibly not the best channel to ask (but I have no idea where to start). I am looking for an application that is like dia for modelling a system process, but with the functionality of being able to click on a diagram object, and that then runs a script (e.g ssh'ing to a machine and tailing a log. Does anyone know if anything like this is out there? TIA
[10:06] <strabes> bullgard4: good luck
[10:06] <evan_> yeah
[10:06] <strabes> evan_: and what website told you to mess with module-assistant
[10:07] <evan_> er some wiki site ;/
[10:07] <strabes> evan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:07] <strabes> evan_: installing fglrx is so easy - there's about 5 commands you type in
[10:07] <xarann> guys i did it!
[10:08] <xarann> typing this fro,m konversation
[10:08] <Alpha736> so... does anyone know how to get a volume to mount automatically upon login?
[10:08] <strabes> roshan: could you be more specific?
[10:08] <strabes> Alpha736: put it in your /etc/fstab
[10:08] <ltracy> why the hell would acpid say nothing when i close the lid and open it again
[10:08] <evan_> was just try to install the 8.36.5 package
[10:08] <ltracy> it should say something... right?
[10:09] <Alpha736> strabes: thanks, i'll try
[10:09] <xarann> ive used loopback installs and live cds, but this is my first time doing an actual linux install
[10:09] <strabes> Alpha736: the fstab is where the system looks to mount things on bootup
[10:09] <roshan> ive installed ubuntu 6.06 lts...im not able to use the internet...i have a wired dsl connection...what should i do?
[10:09] <thelostpatrol> help! i don't have shutdown/restart on my quit menu for some reason
[10:09] <strabes> Alpha736: once you edit it, you can run "sudo mount -a" to reload the fstab so you don't have to reboot every time you make a change
[10:10] <Alpha736> thanks
[10:10] <slim> ok does any1 know of any repositories not on the ubuntu website??
[10:10] <strabes> roshan: what interfaces does "ifconfig" output
[10:10] <strabes> slim: like what?
[10:10] <rappellz> the internal speakers in my asus v6j laptop dont work with feisty any suggestions?
[10:10] <evan_> er depmod -a hasn't solved problem with the touchpad module
[10:10] <thelostpatrol> help! i don't have shutdown/restart on my quit menu for some reason
[10:11] <roshan> havent tried..ill try and get back to you
[10:11] <strabes> evan_: can you pastebin the error/output you get?
[10:11] <poningru> thelostpatrol: update
[10:11] <TuTuFF> can networkmanager be safely uninstalled from Feisty without breaking networking?
[10:11] <ltracy> Does anybody have a suggestion on what to look at if /var/log/acpid isn't showing anything?
[10:11] <slim> just whatever i found a few extras but i like to know ALL of my options
[10:11] <thelostpatrol> update?
[10:11] <poningru> thelostpatrol: thats an old bug that got fixed pretty fast
[10:11] <thelostpatrol> k
[10:11] <evan_> there is no like error
[10:11] <mtx1> do u need a swap partition if you have 2 gb of ram?
[10:11] <strabes> mtx1: probably not
[10:12] <thelostpatrol> it says my system is up to date, poningru
[10:12] <freeza> mtx1: just make a small one around 64 to 128mb
[10:12] <strabes> slim: there are tons of repositories... especially if you use a distro other than ubuntu...you can get repos located close to your house etc...
[10:12] <slim> i was just wondering if any one knew something i dont!!
[10:13] <slim> i like ubuntu (so far)
[10:13] <thelostpatrol> it says my system is up to date, poningru
[10:13] <jwl> Adept Manager after reinstall will not prompt for root password so therefor will not run as root, how can this problem be fixed??
[10:13] <strabes> slim: you could also check this page: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[10:13] <strabes> jwl: use apt-get or aptitude :)
[10:13] <slim> im only got divorced from microsoft a week ago
[10:14] <mtx1> anyone else have the problem when upgrading to fiesty that all of your text inside the gui are square boxes
[10:14] <strabes> slim: i recommend you just copy one of those sources.list files according to your version of ubuntu and use it
[10:14] <strabes> slim: good to hear
[10:14] <freeza> you should get used to installing applications by using apt-get or aptitude, less prone to erros
[10:14] <freeza> errors
[10:14] <thelostpatrol> help! i don't have shutdown/restart on my quit menu for some reason
[10:14] <strabes> jwl freeza: exactly
[10:14] <slim> how do i get a complete list of apt-get?
[10:14] <evan_> some reason it says im missing ipw3945
[10:14] <strabes> thelostpatrol: are you using xgl?
[10:14] <thelostpatrol> how do i check
[10:15] <strabes> are you running beryl or something
[10:15] <thelostpatrol> yes
[10:15] <strabes> do you have nvidia or an ati card
[10:15] <thelostpatrol> nvidia
[10:15] <strabes> wierd
[10:15] <strabes> when you installed beryl did you have to download xserver-xgl ?
[10:16] <strabes> slim: what do you mean?
[10:16] <thelostpatrol> i don't know what that is
[10:16] <thelostpatrol> it just happened minutes ago i think though
[10:16] <slim> i used apt-get install zsnes and it worked but i cant find it in my synaptic or add/remove repositories
[10:16] <strabes> thelostpatrol: my first instinct is that it has something to do with beryl because i used to have that problem when i was using beryl/xgl
[10:16] <Lilacor> complete list of apt-get?
[10:16] <strabes> thelostpatrol: try on the beryl-forums
[10:17] <strabes> slim: should be in applications -> games
[10:17] <thelostpatrol> i will restart
[10:17] <thelostpatrol> see if that helps
[10:17] <slim> i was wondering if theres a list of the program apt-get has
[10:17] <slim> programs*
[10:18] <Lilacor> slim all of the programs available?
[10:18] <strabes> slim: it's not "apt-get" that has the programs, it's your repositories.
[10:18] <strabes> slim: apt-get is just a utility to install programs from the command line
[10:18] <slim> i know where on my comp im just wondering why its not in my repositories
[10:18] <Lilacor> apt-get is just a tool to read the lists of software you download.
[10:18] <xarann> this adept manager app for kde
[10:18] <Polis_ttt> slim: can't you just look at the servers your connecting to whit apt-get?
[10:18] <xarann> prettydamn awesome
[10:18] <strabes> slim
[10:18] <strabes> slim: if you downloaded it with apt-get then it is in your repositories
[10:19] <strabes> you can search the repositories using "apt-cache search"
[10:19] <xarann> once i get wine   running
[10:19] <strabes> slim: like "apt-cache search zsnes"
[10:19] <slim> ok then maybe i just missed it ill check again
[10:19] <xarann> i might not boot to xp
[10:19] <strabes> xarann: good to hear
[10:19] <Pablo> I am having trouble with the fglrx driver... works fine with 6.10 but not fiesty... I get "screen not found" when I try to use it... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
[10:20] <strabes> Pablo: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:20] <Pablo> ok
[10:20] <Alpha736> how do i figure out which harddrive is which? i have /dev/hda, /dev/hda1/, /dev/hda5/
[10:20] <xarann> hmm i was wondering
[10:20] <slim> its saying that its virtualboy advance
[10:21] <strabes> Alpha736: you could do "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:21] <slim> but i checked that one seperatly after i got zsnes
[10:21] <xarann> with vmware or whatever, is it possible to boot an os on an actual (but inactive) partition in a vm from another os on another partition onthe same hdd
[10:22] <slim> there was a 12 hr difference between installations
[10:22] <Alpha736> strabes: thanks boss
[10:23] <superman> hello all
[10:23] <strabes> xarann: you can convert an existing windows install into a vmware image...http://www.howtoforge.com/vmware_converter_windows_linux
[10:24] <djy_> Supaplex, http://my.opera.com/Jzarecta/about/
[10:24] <djy_> strabes, http://my.opera.com/Jzarecta/about/
[10:24] <strabes> xarann: i don't know if you can boot into a windows install on your hard drive inside ubuntu, if that's what you're asking. i don't know much about vmware
[10:24] <superman> I want to know if there is a way to convert divx movies to DVD?
[10:24] <slim> ok i did a search in synaptic and it found it
[10:25] <Pablo> strabes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18915/
[10:25] <af> I'm trying to change the default locale, but editing /etc/environment doesn't quite work. any ideas?
[10:25] <xarann> alright strabes thanks
[10:25] <slim> DeVeDe will convert movies
[10:26] <Alpha736> does this look right? /dev/sdc	/media/Main Storage auto rw,user,noatuo 0	0
[10:27] <strabes> Alpha736: just save fstab and run sudo mount -a and see if it works
[10:27] <strabes> Pablo: let me look. I had the same problem when I first installed feisty but right now i can't seem to remember how I fixed it
[10:27] <strabes> Pablo: have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[10:27] <Pablo> ok thx
[10:27] <Alpha736> so i don't need to edit fstab first? or i do?
[10:28] <Pablo> strabes: will that remove fglrx?
[10:28] <strabes> Alpha736: put that line you wrote into your /etc/fstab, save it, then run "sudo mount -a"
[10:28] <Alpha736> k, thanks
[10:28] <strabes> Pablo: no, when you get to the graphics driver configuration part, select fglrx
[10:28] <Pablo> ok
[10:28] <Pablo> I will try that
[10:28] <superman> thanks will try it
[10:28] <evan_> some how most of the modules i have do not load any more
[10:28] <Alpha736> damn, i only have read only access to fstab
[10:28] <fotoflo__> hey, i just finished a dis-upgrade... should i restart or can i just restart my window manager or what?
[10:28] <thelostpatrol> still no shutdown / restart options
[10:28] <thelostpatrol> any ideas
[10:29] <evan_> I have no clue what I did but obviously something dumb ;/
[10:29] <kuhcho> could anybody tell me how can I set my popup properties menu for the window bar in beryl
[10:29] <fotoflo__> dist-upgrade that is
[10:30] <Adamantinus> Hey guys. How do I update my nVidia drivers to latest in Ubuntu 6.10?
[10:30] <Adamantinus> Can't do it with apt-get and don't know how any other way.
[10:30] <Alpha736> is there a way to open fstab with write access using gedit?
[10:31] <strabes> Alpha736: you have to edit it as root by using "sudo"
[10:31] <strabes> Alpha736: except in this case you want to open a gui app as root so you should use "gksudo" like "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[10:32] <Alpha736> awesome thansk
[10:32] <thelostpatrol> still no shutdown / restart options, help!
[10:33] <kuhcho> somebody??? please... :/
[10:33] <poningru> thelostpatrol: well in an emergency you can just go to a terminal and type in sudo shutdown -Ph now for actually shutdown
[10:33] <Alpha736> i think the lines i put into my fstab are wrong
[10:33] <HiddenHax> shalala
[10:33] <poningru> thelostpatrol: you can also type sudo restart for restart
[10:33] <thelostpatrol> yeah i can also set the shutdown to initiate when i hit power
[10:33] <Alpha736> i got alpha736@736WS1:~$ sudo mount -a
[10:33] <Alpha736> [mntent] : line 11 in /etc/fstab is bad
[10:33] <Alpha736> [mntent] : line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad
[10:33] <Pablo> strabes: "still no screens found"
[10:34] <poningru> thelostpatrol: but yeah I remember that bug being fixed
[10:34] <strabes> Pablo: gosh sorry. I can't remember what I did to fix it gosh...
[10:34] <Alpha736> can i whisper you my fstab?
[10:34] <thelostpatrol> i have feisty with all the updates
[10:34] <thelostpatrol> this is strange
[10:34] <Pablo> strabes: :'(
[10:34] <poningru> Alpha736: pastebin it please
[10:34] <Pablo> :P
[10:34] <poningru> thelostpatrol: are you pressing the check button?
[10:34] <sanityx> I have a directory thats also in a tar file. I want to update that tar file. so I did, tar -u foo.tar directory
[10:34] <Alpha736> pastebin?
[10:34] <sanityx> it didnt work.
[10:34] <strabes> Pablo: I did clean up your xorg.conf a bit though....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18917/
[10:34] <thelostpatrol> what button is that
[10:35] <crabgrass> !compiling
[10:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:35] <HiddenHax> anyone use blender 3d?
[10:35] <thelostpatrol> i'm pressing the door at the top right to get out
[10:35] <Adamantinus> How do I update my nVidia drivers to latest in Ubuntu 6.10? 6600GT.
[10:35] <poningru> !pastebin | Alpha736
[10:35] <ubotu> Alpha736: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:35] <Pablo> thxx strabes
[10:35] <thelostpatrol> or when i press the power button the same menu comes up on my computer
[10:35] <poningru> thelostpatrol: go to a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:35] <strabes> Pablo: lol this is frustrating me...now i want to remember how i fixed it...it was so easy....
[10:35] <Alpha736> !pastebin | Alpha736
[10:35] <poningru> and then do 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:36] <poningru> !pastebin > Alpha736
[10:36] <strabes> Pablo: can you tell me exactly what the error is? maybe it will trigger my memory
[10:36] <Pablo> strabes: I hope you remember
[10:36] <lostfawords> anyone know if there is an 'and' command for the print dialog in evince? i.e - range '3 and 20'
[10:36] <thelostpatrol> done and done
[10:36] <backblue> where can i find, vmware-server-console, in ubuntu?
[10:36] <thelostpatrol> still no power button :P
[10:36] <Pablo> where would it stuff the log of the xserver crash?
[10:36] <crabgrass> guys, anyone have a good tutorial on compiling things?
[10:36] <poningru> thelostpatrol: did you restart?
[10:36] <roshan> cant open any application!!
[10:36] <poningru> !compile | crabgrass
[10:36] <ubotu> crabgrass: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:36] <thelostpatrol> i did, but i forced shutdown by holding down power to do it
[10:37] <crabgrass> poningru: thanks, but that didn't help me
[10:37] <poningru> thelostpatrol: no restart from command line
[10:37] <Alpha736> cool thanks....
[10:37] <thelostpatrol> ok
[10:37] <Pablo> strabes: where would it stuff the xserver crash?
[10:37] <thelostpatrol> brb
[10:37] <poningru> crabgrass: what are you trying to do
[10:37] <Alpha736> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18918/plain/
[10:37] <poningru> roshan: what do you mean?
[10:37] <poningru> Alpha736: looking
[10:37] <Alpha736> thanks
[10:37] <strabes> Pablo: try /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:37] <poningru> Alpha736: what lines did it say are bad?
[10:37] <roshan> it says..."opening application" n then it never opens
[10:37] <crabgrass> poningru: im trying to compile an xfce-panel plugin, and i'm stuck on finding a lib
[10:38] <thelostpatrol> poningru, sudo restart command not found
[10:38] <Pablo> ok
[10:38] <TsungW1> Can I design flash in ubuntu?
[10:38] <poningru> thelostpatrol: its reboot then
[10:38] <samushka> how can i remove GAIM without removing the rest of the stuff associated with it? (im guessing this is done via command line)
[10:38] <Alpha736> poningru: 11 and 12, which i believe as the last 2... starting with /dev/sdc/ and /dev/sdd
[10:38] <poningru> crabgrass: which lib?
[10:38] <crabgrass> poningru:  libxfce4panel-1.0
[10:38] <TsungW1> Anyone tell me?
[10:39] <poningru> ah Alpha736 yeah got it
[10:39] <strabes> samushka: you mean the configuration files?
[10:39] <dimebar> TsungW1: without running Flash in wine I don't think so
[10:39] <TsungW1> 3q
[10:39] <samushka> strabes: no i mean, when i select GAIM for removal in synapics it also wants to remove Ubuntu-Desktop (which i dont want to remove)
[10:39] <poningru> put a \ in front of the space between main and storage, same for media and storage
[10:39] <crabgrass> poningru: i downloaded the xfce source, but i'm having a hard time finding that lib
[10:39] <poningru> Alpha736: ^^
[10:39] <poningru> crabgrass: looking
[10:39] <Alpha736> thanks!
[10:39] <crabgrass> poningru: tyvm
[10:39] <strabes> samushka: that's because in ubuntu, gaim is a part of the ubuntu-desktop package. I don't really know since I use KDE
[10:40] <samushka> but, how can i remove JUST gaim? (im guessing its an apt-get command)
[10:40] <roshan> ubuntu's givin me lots of problems!
[10:40] <evan_> bleh looks like ill have to reinstall
[10:40] <TsungW1> Aha,it's Chinese English..I'm sorry.
[10:40] <crabgrass> sudo apt-remove gaim?
[10:40] <poningru> samushka: you can do apt-get remove gaim but that will take out ubuntu-desktop
[10:40] <samushka> is there a remove command, that will JUST remove gaim ?
[10:40] <Alpha736> poningru: is this better? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18919/plain/
[10:41] <Lilacor> I'm so excited! KVM supports VMWare images!
[10:41] <Lilacor> now I just have upgrade to the latest kernel....
[10:41] <Pablo> strabes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18920/
[10:41] <metellius> What mechanism does ubuntu by default use to check ethX link status? I already looked for ifplug-related applications...
[10:41] <poningru> Alpha736: no put a space after the \
[10:41] <poningru> not replace the space with
[10:41] <Alpha736> thanks
[10:42] <roshan> i cant open the networking window...it says its opening..but then it quits..what could be the problem?
[10:42] <Lilacor> what's a good alarm clock I can use to play MP3s at alarm time?
[10:42] <crabgrass> roshan: opening it as sudo?
[10:42] <poningru> Lilacor: mplayer with cron job
[10:42] <poningru> !cron
[10:42] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[10:42] <Alpha736> poningru: so like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18921/plain/
[10:42] <Lilacor> poningru: Hmmm...didn't think of using cron! :O
[10:42] <Lilacor> thanks!
[10:42] <roshan> im trying to open it through the menu...im new to linux
[10:43] <poningru> hmm
[10:43] <crabgrass> roshan: did it ask you for your password?
[10:43] <Lilacor> roshan: Welcome. Be prepared to read a lot.
[10:43] <strabes> Pablo: yeah that's exactly what happened to me
[10:43] <strabes> Pablo: let me look in the ubuntuforumsh /o
[10:43] <strabes> h/o*
[10:43] <poningru> crabgrass: did you download xfce4-panel-dev ?
[10:43] <dimebar> roshan: try running gnome-network-preferences from the console
[10:43] <samushka> so basically i cannot remove GAIM? (i want to install the new beta, but i have to remove the one that comes bundled with Ubuntu 7.04)
[10:43] <poningru> Alpha736: looking
[10:43] <Pablo> ok strabes I am going to pee... brb... can you pm me if you find anything?
[10:43] <strabes> Pablo: ok lol
[10:43] <poningru> Alpha736: yep
[10:44] <Alpha736> thanks!
[10:44] <Flannel> samushka: of course you can.  Yes, it will remove "ubuntu-desktop", but that's just a metapackage, no harm in removing it.
[10:44] <dimebar> samiam: removing the ubuntu-desktop package won't do yu any harm
[10:44] <Pablo> thx so much... its driving me crazy
[10:44] <thelostpatrol> well that did nothing
[10:44] <samushka> kk
[10:44] <Lilacor> samushka: install the new beta *over* it
[10:44] <crabgrass> poningru: i believe so, lemmie check synaptec
[10:44] <roshan> dimebar: how do i do that??..sry...im very new to this
[10:44] <poningru> samushka: just make sure that you add it when you are updating!
[10:44] <Alpha736> poningru: sudo mount -a still says the line is bad :(
[10:44] <poningru> hmm
[10:44] <crabgrass> poningru: oh, i downloaded it, but not via synaptec... i guess i put it in the wrong place
[10:45] <Alpha736> i found a typo, hang on...
[10:45] <bullgard4> A memorystick which I bought yesterday is FAT16 formatted. GParted shows 264 KiB as 'used'. Nautilus does not show any file. What information is stored in these 264 KiB?
[10:45] <riaal> anyone knows how to clone the amarok archive whit an ipod? Like in iTunes? (ipod is installed and working)
[10:45] <dimebar> roshan: applications -> accessories -> terminal, then type 'gnome-network-preferences' in and hit return
[10:45] <thelostpatrol> poningru, nothing happened
[10:45] <thelostpatrol> same problem
[10:45] <poningru> bullgard4: probably some proprietry stuff
[10:45] <dimebar> roshan: this way if it crashes it'll hopefully spit out some useful info first :)
[10:46] <roshan> thanx a lot
[10:46] <crabgrass> poningru: awesome, it's working so far
[10:46] <crabgrass> poningru: thanks!
[10:46] <poningru> thelostpatrol: I dont know what to tell you dude... can you look/post in the forums?
[10:46] <poningru> crabgrass: yep
[10:46] <thelostpatrol> k
[10:46] <Alpha736> poningru: yep still getting those 2 line errors
[10:46] <poningru> thelostpatrol: sorry
[10:46] <thelostpatrol> np
[10:46] <bullgard4> poningru: What is the name of a Linux tool to explore the contents of a memory stick byte by byte?
[10:47] <poningru> Alpha736: you sure those two folders exist?
[10:47] <Nanu> hey guys
[10:47] <poningru> the storage folders
[10:47] <poningru> if not go make them
[10:48] <Nanu> can i open .docx files?? it's a ms office word 2007 file
[10:48] <eck> bullgard4: you can just use cat/od to check the contents of the stick, but it is normal for there to be a small amount of space used on a newly created filesystem with no visible files on it
[10:48] <evan_> er is there a way to regenerate the modules needed for the kernel
[10:49] <Alpha736> yeah, they are under /media/Main Storage
[10:49] <poningru> bullgard4: cat /proc/kcore
[10:49] <Alpha736> and /media/Media Storage
[10:49] <eck> poningru: that is for memory, not a storage device...
[10:49] <poningru> bullgard4: isnt that what he said?
[10:49] <poningru> oh
[10:49] <poningru> ...
[10:49] <poningru> nm
[10:49] <poningru> bullgard4: sorry uh... hold on
[10:50] <poningru> bullgard4: just go into a terminal and do an ls -la
[10:50] <eck> evan_: how do you mean? they're static in the sense that they're installed when you get the kernel package, and don't change (until you upgrade it)
[10:50] <poningru> Alpha736: can you try with verbose mode
[10:50] <poningru> Alpha736: -v
[10:50] <poningru> suod mount -va
[10:50] <Alpha736> k
[10:51] <evan_> well i dunno but some reason they don't exist or won't load
[10:51] <bullgard4> poningru: detlef@MD97600:~$ ls -la /dev/sdb1; brw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 8, 17 2007-05-03 10:28 /dev/sdb1"
[10:51] <Nanu> how can i open .docx files? it's a MS Word 2007 file
[10:52] <eck> evan_: look around in /lib/modules to see if they exist
[10:52] <Alpha736> poningru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18922/plain/
[10:52] <eck> Nanu: have you tried openoffice?
[10:52] <Nanu> no
[10:52] <Alpha736> it's already mounted?
[10:52] <Alpha736> is that what this error is telling me?
[10:52] <eck> Nanu: if anything opened it, that would be it
[10:53] <Nanu> ok i'll  try
[10:53] <poningru> Alpha736: no it cant be...
[10:53] <poningru> Alpha736: well try it..
[10:53] <poningru> Alpha736: umount /dev/sdc
[10:53] <Alpha736> k
[10:54] <poningru> Alpha736: one thing I wanna check is are you sure there is a /dev/sdc
[10:54] <poningru> and a /dev/sdd
[10:54] <Alpha736> yeah, i see it listed in /dev
[10:54] <CheshireViking> Nanu, I think you need an OpenXML translator, i'm not sure if its in the repo's but, here's a link to enable you to open them in OpenOffice http://download.novell.com/SummaryFree.jsp?buildid=ESrjfdE4U58~
[10:55] <poningru> Nanu: hehe you cant
[10:55] <z0rz> Anyone got an ATI card to dual head?
[10:55] <tehlostpatrol> help please -- i have no restart or shut down options in my shut down menu
[10:55] <Alpha736> poningru: this is my fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18923/plain/
[10:56] <poningru> Alpha736: ah makes sense
[10:56] <eck> tehlostpatrol: you should be able to control what things are shown in the shutd down menu somewhere in the gconf settings. try running gconf-editor
[10:56] <Alpha736> er.... it's sdc1 and sdd1?
[10:56] <poningru> Alpha736: right
[10:56] <thelostpatrol> o i didn't realize this is the same channel
[10:56] <thelostpatrol> hah
[10:56] <poningru> Alpha736: dont know why I didnt catch that
[10:56] <thelostpatrol> it's me
[10:56] <poningru> thelostpatrol: :)
[10:56] <poningru> is cool
[10:56] <thelostpatrol> :P
[10:57] <z0rz> Could someone take a look at my xorg.conf file.. I can't seem to get dual head displays to work
[10:57] <Nanu> this linux goes very slow when i keep it running long time,, i mean 1 day ( cuz i'm downloading )
[10:57] <z0rz> http://z0rz.com/stuff/xorg.conf
[10:57] <Nanu> i
[10:57] <Nanu> i've to restart every 5 hours maybe
[10:58] <z0rz> What happends is screen left doesn't work.. and screen right does.. also my mouse cursor looks like poop but I think that's the ati driver's fault
[10:58] <poningru> Nanu: do you have swap?
[10:58] <thelostpatrol> eck, i'm in it, now what?
[10:58] <Nanu> wha'ts that
[10:58] <eck> thelostpatrol: go into the search thing and search for something like 'shutdown', you should find the appropriate key
[10:58] <z0rz> Go away zOap you confuse everyone! :D
[10:58] <Alpha736> poningru: i switched it to sdc1 and sdd1 and i'm getting the same error still
[10:58] <eck> thelostpatrol: you might have to select search in key names/values
[10:59] <Alpha736> poningru: i'm going to relog and see if that changes anything, i'll brb
[10:59] <zOap> z0rz, oh well, I've been here for years. so maybe you are the one that needs to go away?;)
[11:00] <thelostpatrol> eck, i did and nothing came up
[11:00] <BigBambi> Hi, I've just installed 7.04 on my laptop (Acer Aspire 5630) and can't select any widescreen resolutions - only 1024 x 768 is available.  Consequently everything looks stretched.  Any ideas?
[11:00] <poningru> Nanu: go to system->admin->system monitor
[11:00] <z0rz> whatever, it said you just joined ;)
[11:01] <poningru> BigBambi: do you know what vid card it is?
[11:01] <poningru> intel?
[11:01] <bagualas> Hello, i'm with a problem, I installed Ubuntu 7.04 in hda1, but I had a partition on hdb1. When i remove my slave hdd ubuntu gives a lots of errors
[11:01] <BigBambi> intel 965gm
[11:01] <eck> thelostpatrol: weird, i thought they were in there. it looks like the options under apps > gnome-session are the only things you can change
[11:01] <Tsung_> one question,number of virnus in linux?someone tell me about 300,but I think it's too small..
[11:01] <poningru> z0rz, zOap please play nice
[11:01] <poningru> !intel | BigBambi
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <poningru> ...
[11:01] <brylie> I am looking for a workaround that would allow a PHP script to pass to the python interpreter or python twisted instead of Apache/PHP
[11:01] <BigBambi> poningru: intel 965gm
[11:02] <thelostpatrol> eck i see things like shutdown option but all there is beside them is <schema>
[11:03] <harddisk> guess what?
[11:03] <Alpha736> poningru: nope that didn't fix it
[11:03] <poningru> Alpha736: hmm
[11:03] <Tricore> Hey
[11:03] <poningru> BigBambi: looking
[11:03] <thelostpatrol> eck i see things like shutdown option but all there is beside them is <schema>
[11:03] <BigBambi> poningru: Thanks :)
[11:04] <eck> thelostpatrol: afaik that just defines the xml schema, which probably isn't something you want to be messing with. maybe you need to be part of a special group to get all the options, run the group command and check that you are in a reasonable number of them
[11:04] <Tricore> I've forgotten how to run a program in the background from terminal, could someone please enlighten me ? :)
[11:04] <thelostpatrol> how do i run the group command
[11:04] <Alpha736> how do i gain gui write access to my filesystem?
[11:04] <eck> Tricore: & when you run, or ctrl-z and then bg
[11:04] <harddisk> somehow I fubard my x
[11:04] <Tricore> Thx m8 ;)
[11:04] <eck> thelostpatrol: that is the command name ;-)
[11:04] <harddisk> cant even startx and on xchat
[11:04] <harddisk> meh
[11:05] <babo> guys, where can I access extra characters like the euro symbol ? I'm on gnome.
[11:05] <babo> htanks
[11:05] <harddisk> how do I reconfigure my videocard in prompt again?
[11:05] <harddisk> dont have a gui..so ill just do the commands
[11:05] <eck> harddisk: iirc, X -configure
[11:05] <thelostpatrol> i don't know what you want me to do eck, heh
[11:05] <thelostpatrol> i'm noobish
[11:05] <eck> thelostpatrol: run the command 'groups' on a command line
[11:06] <Jersey> Hi
[11:06] <thelostpatrol> yeah there's a bunch
[11:06] <harddisk> iirc, x -configure
[11:06] <harddisk> ok
[11:06] <eck> if you add yourself to one incorrectly and remove yourself from groups than you can break all kinds of random things
[11:06] <BigBambi> poningru: Oops, my mistake - 945gm.  Sorry
[11:06] <Jersey> I'm enjoying my new Feisty
[11:06] <harddisk> I screwed my gui :)
[11:06] <eck> harddisk: no, just 'X -configure' (with the capital X)
[11:06] <Nanu> poningru sys monitor , then?
[11:06] <harddisk> but feisty seems good
[11:06] <thelostpatrol> me too, jersey, i can't shut down
[11:06] <thelostpatrol> haha
[11:06] <poningru> BigBambi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e
[11:06] <harddisk> yea yea I got ya
[11:06] <thelostpatrol> i have to enjoy it
[11:06] <thelostpatrol> :P
[11:06] <harddisk> X -configure
[11:06] <Jersey> I can
[11:06] <harddisk> ok
[11:07] <BigBambi> poningru: Thanks, I'll have a look
[11:07] <harddisk> brb
[11:07] <babo> gnome ships without the euro symbol ?
[11:07] <Jersey> I had this issue in Edgy
[11:07] <poningru> Nanu: go to resources tab
[11:07] <thelostpatrol> the shutdown thing?
[11:07] <thelostpatrol> how'd you fix it
[11:07] <Nanu> then
[11:07] <eck> babo: apps > accessories > character map
[11:07] <poningru> see what the size of the swap is
[11:07] <Tricore> Is there a tool to see if two files are identical ?
[11:07] <eck> Tricore: diff
[11:07] <Tricore> thx :)
[11:08] <Nanu> 1.3 GB
[11:08] <Nanu> 593.2 used swap
[11:09] <poningru> Nanu: that cant be it then
[11:09] <poningru> Tricore: or md5sum
[11:09] <poningru> if its binary
[11:09] <Tricore> Okay :-)
[11:09] <poningru> Alpha736: sorry but can you paste that stuff again?
[11:09] <eck> you can diff binary files too:-)
[11:09] <poningru> eck: hehe true
[11:10] <poningru> but you'll have a messy diff
[11:10] <z0rz> Could someone take a look at my xorg.conf?  I'm trying to get dual head going, and the left monitor isn't working (but the right is working fine).  http://z0rz.com/stuff/xorg.conf
[11:10] <eck> no, it will just print whether or not they differ
[11:10] <Nanu> 593.2 mb is used .. 46.1% is used
[11:10] <poningru> Nanu: yeah that cant be it then
[11:10] <poningru> Nanu: sometimes swap isnt turned on so the computer becomes very slow
[11:10] <harddisk> yo ju u there?
[11:11] <Alpha736> poningru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18923/plain/
[11:11] <poningru> Nanu: not the case in your computer
[11:11] <eevar2> as far as i can tell, all my ubuntu printer settings read A4 for paper size, however, anything but the test page seems to come out in letter format..? - i.e. the printer locks up until we walk over and tell it to use the A4 drawer
[11:11] <poningru> Alpha736: ok lets try something
[11:11] <elifed> Tsung_, probably closer to a 1000
[11:11] <eevar2> suggestions?
[11:12] <sanityx> Man
[11:12] <Alpha736> poningru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18927/plain/
[11:12] <Tricore> Okay, I don't get this. After installing the proprietary nvidia display drivers, I can't run anything higher than 800x600 @ 60hz, and my xorg.conf hasn't changed :S
[11:12] <Nanu> poningru u mean swap isnt the problem?
[11:12] <poningru> Nanu: right
[11:12] <Tricore> Any ideas ?
[11:12] <sanityx> Banshee REALLY needs an equalizer. Its far better than Rhythmbox, but still lacking in that respect.
[11:12] <harddisk> lemme ask this in nooby, my gui is gone, wanna start over, im in x
[11:12] <poningru> Alpha736: do this 'sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Main\ Storage'
[11:12] <helen> tircore you have to change nv to nvidea
[11:12] <sanityx> harddisk, ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:12] <poningru> Alpha736: what does it say?
[11:12] <harddisk> sanityx doesn't work
[11:12] <eck> sanityx: they also need to make it stable ;-)
[11:12] <sanityx> eck, Its plenty stable for me.
[11:12] <poningru> Tricore: why are you not using the restricted drivers manager?
[11:13] <sanityx> harddisk, Power button :-P
[11:13] <harddisk> I really screwed it, even when I reboot.
[11:13] <Tricore> Section "Device"
[11:13] <Tricore> 	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7900 GT/GTO] "
[11:13] <Tricore> 	Driver		"nvidia"
[11:13] <Tricore> That part ?
[11:13] <sanityx> harddisk, what exactley do you have?
[11:14] <harddisk> no gui
[11:14] <Alpha736> poningru: mount: mount point /media/Main Storage does not exist
[11:14] <harddisk> just login
[11:14] <elifed> Tsung_, maybe a few more if you count the different variations of the UNIX Honor System Virus ;)
[11:14] <harddisk> I login when I do startx I get all sorts of errors
[11:14] <sanityx> harddisk, so what happens when you login
[11:14] <sanityx> oh.
[11:14] <helen> tricore run glxgears in terminal
[11:14] <sanityx> harddisk, well what errors.
[11:14] <helen> and print output
[11:14] <poningru> Alpha736: AHA
[11:14] <Tricore> 77766 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15553.126 FPS
[11:14] <Tricore> 90678 frames in 5.0 seconds = 18135.476 FPS
[11:14] <harddisk> well I'll have to write em down
[11:14] <harddisk> meh...brb
[11:14] <sanityx> harddisk, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:14] <harddisk> ah ha
[11:14] <harddisk> thats what I needed
[11:14] <Pablo> I am having some problems with my fglrx and feisty... here is where it x errors out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18920/ here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18915/ any help would be greatly appreciated
[11:14] <harddisk> lemme write this down
[11:14] <poningru> Alpha736: can you go check if that file does exist?
[11:14] <helen> tricore you are definately running the nvidia binaries then ,
[11:14] <sanityx> Pablo, I don't know much about that, but just to be sure, did you isntall it with the restricted drivers manager?
[11:15] <evan_> well i learned a good lesson :D
[11:15] <helen> you may have to run dpkg reconfigure to add the new resolutions
[11:15] <BigBambi> poningru: That worked!  Thanks very much, I can now read the screen.
[11:15] <Alpha736> poningru: before i restarted the file/folder was there because i had previously mounted it manually through the gui
[11:15] <poningru> BigBambi: awesome
[11:15] <harddisk> I think that will work sanity
[11:15] <harddisk> brb
[11:15] <Tricore> Compiz is working too :S
[11:15] <sanityx> harddisk, okeydokey
[11:15] <poningru> Alpha736: hmm
[11:15] <Alpha736> poningru: but now it's not there
[11:15] <Pablo> helen: why more resolutions?
[11:16] <poningru> oh frack I'm supposed to be at work I think
[11:16] <sanityx> poningru, AHAHAHA
[11:16] <poningru> in like 2 hours :P
[11:16] <poningru> not now
[11:16] <Pablo> helen: it is running at that resolution now with just "ati" as the driver... just no 3d acceleration
[11:16] <poningru> :p
[11:16] <harddisk> sorry again..
[11:16] <atarinox> can somebody help me w/ a wireless problem? it seems that after i tried to enable roaming on my wireless, my card isn't recognized. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling hte driver w/ ndiswrapper...but it just gives me the msg that "Driver driver is already installed"
[11:16] <harddisk> forgot how to set root password in prompt again
[11:16] <harddisk> cause I didnt do that and need to run as root.
[11:16] <poningru> atarinox: ok lets see
[11:16] <harddisk> I know it's su, but didnt set a password yet.
[11:16] <poningru> atarinox: what chipset is yoru card?
[11:16] <sanityx> harddisk, to SET the root password you use passwd
[11:16] <eck> harddisk: just use sudo
[11:17] <sanityx> harddisk, to be root, use sudo
[11:17] <sanityx> harddisk, or sudo bash to get a root promt
[11:17] <sanityx> prompt*
[11:17] <harddisk> fine.. and sorry again :)
[11:17] <poningru> atarinox: or do you not know?
[11:17] <sanityx> harddisk, np
[11:17] <poningru> Alpha736: can you make the folder? and try it again?
[11:17] <harddisk> I got to memorize those commands...been ages since I used dos
[11:17] <helen> tricore the exact command is printed in the opening paragraph of the xorg file something likd dpkg reconfigure -r xorg ect ect
[11:17] <sanityx> harddisk, this isnt DOS
[11:17] <Alpha736> poningru: i can't because i don't have write access :(
[11:17] <sanityx> harddisk, its bash/linux
[11:17] <harddisk> yea I know
[11:17] <eck> harddisk: learning dos commands probably won't help you :-P
[11:17] <poningru> Alpha736: you do just go sudo
[11:17] <harddisk> I'm just saying
[11:17] <sanityx> the only dos command that works is dir
[11:18] <harddisk> I haven't typed commands in years..
[11:18] <sanityx> and its really just an alias for ls
[11:18] <Tricore> I'll try that then... Thanks for all your help (have to restart x)
[11:18] <atarinox> poningru: Realtek 8180
[11:18] <poningru> Alpha736: sudo mkdir /media/Media\ Storage
[11:18] <poningru> atarinox: err are you sure?
[11:18] <Alpha736> poningru: thanks
[11:18] <harddisk> btw while im on ircII do I have to quit from the session to use prompt?
[11:18] <sanityx> eck, I never knew about that
[11:18] <harddisk> or is there some shortcut
[11:18] <atarinox> poningru: it's a Linksys WPC11 v.4, i googled that and chipset, that's what i got
[11:19] <sanityx> harddisk, no, ctrl-alt-F1 through F5 gives other prompts
[11:19] <atarinox> let me keep searching, maybe i can find something else
[11:19] <harddisk> DUH!
[11:19] <Alpha736> k folders made
[11:19] <harddisk> now you tell me :)
[11:19] <PloneDude> hei guys, I have old harddisk almost 10 years old wif 4Gb... will it cause any probs if I install Ubuntu in it...
[11:19] <sanityx> harddisk, also you can move through them with ctrl-alt-arrowkeys
[11:19] <harddisk> yea I just found that out..
[11:19] <void^> PloneDude: no, it'll just be slow
[11:19] <harddisk> good to know.
[11:19] <atarinox> poningru: RTL8180L
[11:19] <sanityx> harddisk, but remember F1-F5, arrowkeys dont work on all distros
[11:19] <poningru> WTF
[11:19] <Alpha736> poningru: still getting same error when i try " sudo mount -va"
[11:19] <harddisk> well arrow keys dont work but the F's do..
[11:19] <atarinox> poningru: shows up when i do 'lspci'
[11:19] <sanityx> harddisk, Heh.
[11:20] <harddisk> brb
[11:20] <poningru> atarinox: its a simple bug
[11:20] <CheshireViking> PloneDude, I've installed on a 3.2Gb drive with no problems, as void^ said, it just runs very slowly
[11:20] <poningru> atarinox: http://yoten.blogspot.com/2007/04/realtek-8180-in-ubuntu.html
[11:20] <poningru> Alpha736: no the manual mount
[11:20] <Alpha736> oh
[11:20] <poningru> yeah
[11:20] <atarinox> poningru: thanks for the link...ill check it out
[11:20] <poningru> atarinox: let me know if you dont understand what to do
[11:21] <poningru> atarinox: can you file a bug about this in lp.net?
[11:21] <PloneDude> void: wat if the system is onli 2+ years old... but harddisk is old ..so thot of installing Ubuntu...will it still be slow...
[11:21] <Meatbag> Anybody know how to install ubuntu from a usb cd drive? with no bios support of course :P
[11:21] <harddisk> alrighty im doing the xserver-xorg thingy..should work.
[11:21] <poningru> Meatbag: does it have floppy?
[11:21] <void^> PloneDude: anything that uses the disk is slow - booting, starting applications, etc.
[11:21] <Meatbag> Yep
[11:22] <poningru> !netboot | Meatbag
[11:22] <ubotu> Meatbag: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:22] <Meatbag> Cool thanks :D
[11:22] <PloneDude> void: oh..thanks dude...for the hints..
[11:22] <Alpha736> poningru: i'm pretty sure it mounted, because i didn't get an error this time, but now when i try to access /media/Main Storage through nautilus it says i don't have permission to view the contents
[11:22] <metellius> any ideas on how I can filter all other lines except #22 (for example) in a oneliner?
[11:22] <poningru> Alpha736: thats fine
[11:22] <poningru> Alpha736: just ad rw to the options
[11:23] <eck> metellius: pipe to head, then grep
[11:23] <eck> err, head, then tail
[11:23] <poningru> Alpha736: add -o rw at the end
[11:23] <poningru> but this is weird
[11:23] <atarinox> poningru: worked great...thanks! do i still need ndiswrapper and the windows drivers?
[11:23] <poningru> Alpha736: ok lets umount it
[11:23] <Alpha736> at the end of my fstab?
[11:23] <poningru> atarinox: nope
[11:23] <poningru> Alpha736: no the option is for manual mount
[11:23] <poningru> I wanna try couple of things and figure out why fstab isnt doint it properly
[11:24] <Alpha736> what's the unmount command?
[11:24] <metellius> eck: thanks
[11:24] <gpd> Alpha736: umount...
[11:24] <Alpha736> unmount command not found
[11:24] <poningru> Alpha736: sorry 'sudo umount /dev/sdc1'
[11:25] <trylmz> hi all
[11:25] <Alpha736> still says sudo: unmount: command not found
[11:26] <poningru> Alpha736: not unmount use umount
[11:26] <poningru> there is no
[11:26] <Alpha736> oh...
[11:26] <Alpha736> lol
[11:26] <poningru> n
[11:26] <poningru> :p
[11:26] <poningru> oh you silly Alpha736
[11:26] <Alpha736> done
[11:26] <aidan> gFTP sends a LIST .. some servers don't support that, I want to send a DIR ... how can I do that?
[11:26] <poningru> Alpha736: from fdisk remove auto for those two lines and put in ntfs instead
[11:27] <Alpha736> do you mean fstab?
[11:27] <Alpha736> remove auto from /etc/fstab?
[11:27] <Alpha736> and use ntfs?
[11:28] <mark_wo> hello
[11:28] <maemo> c++
[11:28] <poningru> Alpha736: only those two files
[11:28] <poningru> right
[11:28] <mark_wo> i have installed snes9x and lufia "lags", i don't think this is normal for an amd64 3500+ is it?
[11:29] <poningru> gpd: did you install emerald?
[11:29] <poningru> gpd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty
[11:29] <eck> mark_wo: have you tried zsnes?
[11:29] <poningru> gpd: emerald-themes
[11:30] <poningru> Alpha736: err I meant those two lines
[11:30] <gpd> poningru: yes, i have emerald and -themes
[11:30] <Alpha736> poningru: does this look right? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18928/plain/
[11:30] <mark_wo> no, eck i haven't
[11:30] <poningru> Alpha736: right
[11:30] <Alpha736> done
[11:30] <Alpha736> poningru: so how do i test it?
[11:30] <mark_wo> oh it finds visualboyadvance if i search for zsnes
[11:31] <poningru> Alpha736: try mount -a
[11:31] <maemo> I am trying to apt-get install <pkg.deb>.from a mirror which is https://mirror.xyz.com and it is protected by username and password how to configure local apt-get for authentication of usename and password for that mirror ?
[11:31] <poningru> gpd: go into a terminal and type in emerald or something
[11:31] <Alpha736> poningru: i got the same error again
[11:31] <Alpha736> proc already mounted on /proc
[11:31] <poningru> gpd: for more help go to #ubuntu-effects or something like that
[11:32] <gpd> poningru: emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display
[11:32] <sanityx> Anybody know how I can read Microsoft XPS files?
[11:32] <poningru> gpd: sudo emerald
[11:33] <gpd> poningru: same with sudo -- let me check the svn version
[11:33] <MenZa> I'm having some problems with mounting /dev/sdb1 to /media/external - here's what I have in /etc/fstab for it:
[11:33] <poningru> Alpha736: hmm can you go rename the folders to something simpler? like /media/flash1 and /media/flash2
[11:33] <MenZa> /dev/sdb1   /media/external   ntfs-3g   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[11:33] <kuba> why when i type this command : 'apt-get install xmms && ogle ' i have only one program installed??
[11:33] <poningru> DOH
[11:33] <MenZa> kuba: type sudo apt-get install xmms ogle
[11:33] <Flannel> kuba: "apt-get install xmms ogle"
[11:33] <MenZa> the && initiates a new command
[11:33] <eck> sanityx: yeah, convert it to a pdf ;-)
[11:33] <dirtydel> where can i get kde for ubuntu
[11:33] <kuba> ok
[11:33] <johnt> satinix: whats an xps
[11:33] <MenZa> !kde | dirtydel
[11:33] <sanityx> eck, Ok, how do I do that from within ubuntu :-P
[11:33] <ubotu> dirtydel: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[11:33] <poningru> Alpha736: instead of ntfs it was supposed to be ntfs-3g
[11:34] <eck> sanityx: afaik you can't
[11:34] <Alpha736> ah
[11:34] <sanityx> eck, Ok, vmware it is then.
[11:34] <eck> MenZa: && does _not_ initiate a new command, it is a logical and (like C)
[11:34] <poningru> Alpha736: btw what kinda storage stuff is this?
[11:34] <eck> MenZa: you use it to prevent the second command from running if the first one fails
[11:34] <Alpha736> poningru: like this?
[11:34] <MenZa> eck: ah
[11:35] <gnomefreak> using ; iirc doesnt care if first one fails
[11:35] <Alpha736> poningru: they are both 250gb sata150 drives on a raid controller
[11:35] <A_A> how do i make a 32-bit compatibility environment for cedega ?
[11:35] <gpd> poningru: is it ok to have both compiz (required by desktopeffects) and beryl on the same install?
[11:36] <Alpha736> poningru: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18929/plain/
[11:36] <fredl> Hi, I just downloaded the alternate fiesty CD and it doesn't give me an upgrade menu after booting from it.
[11:36] <Flannel> gnomefreak: that's correct.  and || only works if the first one fails (well, both && and || only do that if stuff follows correct return values)
[11:37] <fredl> and when I go to ALT-F2 and do the gksu command it says gksu isn't found.
[11:37] <Flannel> fredl: you don't boot from it.  You boot normally, then insert it
[11:37] <fredl> hmm
[11:37] <poningru> gpd: err... not recommended iirc but you can balance it using bunch of hackery
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Flannel: ty
[11:37] <poningru> Alpha736: looking
[11:37] <mrcreativity> alright...i have a question.
[11:37] <fredl> well then I need to rescue first :/
[11:37] <mrcreativity> i install kubuntu desktop from ubuntu
[11:38] <poningru> Alpha736: yeah
[11:38] <Alpha736> poningru: i think i may have some other type of syntax error in there
[11:38] <gnomefreak> fredl: desktop cd cant be used for upgrade afaik
[11:38] <mrcreativity> and now my startup screen shows the kubuntu splash screen
[11:38] <dirtydel> which is better kubuntu or ubuntu
[11:38] <Flannel> dirtydel: neither, they're just different.
[11:38] <mrcreativity> dirtydel: u can try both
[11:38] <fredl> I have a broken 6.10 system that my wife powered down during a massive dist-upgrade and now it doesn't come through the fsck :/
[11:38] <poningru> Alpha736: yeah can you go change the mount points to something simpler?
[11:38] <dirtydel> i'm using ubuntu rite now
[11:38] <Meatbag> anyone know why beryl might use 50% cpu and not give me the settings menu, emerald or only list beryl window manager? Here's a better description of my problem http://www.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=119
[11:38] <predaeus> dirtydel, a matter of taste, try the live cds of each, you could also try xubuntu
[11:38] <fredl> gnomefreak, nope, that's why I downloaded the alternate disk
[11:39] <mrcreativity> dirtydel: then download kubuntu desktop and see what u like
[11:39] <gnomefreak> you will need to either try to boot in "safe mode" and fix it or install clean
[11:39] <poningru> Alpha736: hmm can you go rename the folders to something simpler? like /media/flash1 and /media/flash2
[11:39] <mrcreativity> u can have both on the same installaitionu know
[11:39] <dirtydel> i'll do that i'm running win xp and ubuntu rite now
[11:39] <Alpha736> poningru: i'll try that
[11:40] <gpd> poningru: /usr/bin/compiz.real: can't load plugin 'gconf' because it is built for ABI version 1 and actual version is 20061227
[11:40] <fredl> gnomefreak - was going to try and boot the rescue mode from the 7.01 alternate CD and then try and continue the apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:40] <mrcreativity> dirtydel: i was running the same until a couple of days agu, till i install kubuntu as well.
[11:40] <dirtydel> kool
[11:40] <Alpha736> what's the command to delete a dir? sudo deldir /media/Media\ Storage ?
[11:40] <mark_wo> Can't open "/dev/mem", full screen mode not available: Permission denied
[11:40] <mrcreativity> dirtydel: but if u ask me, i prefer ubuntu as kubuntu is too much like windows xp
[11:40] <poningru> Alpha736: sudo rm -rf /media/Media\ Storage
[11:40] <fredl> sometimes I really wonder if I should forbid my wife from using computers :/
[11:41] <predaeus> Alpha736, rmdir if the directory is empty, if not you can force   rm to delete recursively with   rm -rf   see man rm
[11:41] <dirtydel> wat about xubuntu
[11:41] <fredl> I can just see my entire day being screwed because of this little 'oops I did it again'
[11:41] <mrcreativity> ive never tried that so i have no idea sorry
[11:41] <poningru> fredl: rofl
[11:41] <MenZa> dirtydel: Xubuntu is pretty cool
[11:41] <poningru> that sucks
[11:41] <poningru> I feel ya man
[11:41] <MenZa> Kinda like... a light-weight Gnome
[11:41] <kuba> hi.i've got a question: what is the name of program which record what is going on on desktop??
[11:41] <MenZa> !screencast
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screencast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <MenZa> >_>
[11:42] <predaeus> yea I recently switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu too
[11:42] <eck> blasphemers!
[11:42] <poningru> Alpha736: I have to go man but couple of points: why use ntfs? try using something else like !ext3 if you have nothing in there.
[11:42] <mrcreativity> im trying to make my ubuntu looks as much mac like as possible. any one willing to help?
[11:42] <poningru> !raid | Alpha736 this will help you setup raid again
[11:42] <ubotu> Alpha736 this will help you setup raid again: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:43] <fredl> hmm looks like the dist-upgrade from the rescue CD works so far.
[11:43] <Flannel> mrcreativity: A few people have already done it.  Google for guides.
[11:43] <predaeus> kuba, try  recordmydesktop
[11:43] <predaeus> its great
[11:43] <mrcreativity> Flannel: thanks.
[11:43] <fsrAWAI> I'm having problems with feisty and wireless... I seem to be able to detect and connect to wireless networks in the area... yet somehow I can't access the net afterwards... (it works in fedora and windows... so it's not the router)
[11:43] <predaeus> finally a proggy that works there *g*
[11:43] <fredl> is fiesty worth the bother?
[11:43] <Alpha736> poningru: okay thanks
[11:43] <poningru> Alpha736: gl, do let me know if it works or not
[11:43] <ljs662> hellooo
[11:44] <poningru> I'll be back later this evening
[11:44] <eck> fredl: i guess it depends what features you want from the upgrade
[11:44] <predaeus> fredl, depends on what you want. if you don't need anything but the system you have now then not, but if you want newer version of applications with new features etc. you should upgrade
[11:44] <Alpha736> i have to use ntfs, because i dualboot with windows xp
[11:44] <fredl> eck, well as far as I'm concerned, I'm fine right now but my wife nags me that she can't watch all the video crap.
[11:44] <fsrAWAI> I'm also not getting assigned any Gateway address or whatever
[11:45] <fredl> I told her to install Windows but she doesn't want that because I'll let her fix it by herself when she does.
[11:45] <predaeus> fredl, some windows formats are DRMed and can't be played on linux anyway I fear
[11:45] <eck> fredl: afaik nothing much has changed on that front (other than the restricted content manager thing)
[11:45] <ljs662> can someone answer this for me ---- is the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu that kubuntu uses kde and ubuntu uses gnome?
[11:45] <fredl> hmm
[11:45] <poningru> Alpha736: you can use fat32
[11:45] <Flannel> ljs662: yeah. Well, and their associated programs.
[11:45] <kuba> predaeus: it is not working:(
[11:45] <helen> fredl edgy should play all the videos feisty will with the correct codecs/apps
[11:45] <ljs662> oh ok kool
[11:45] <predaeus> fredl, eck, totem installs missing codecs now by itself if you open a movie that is not supported yet, don't know how powerful that is though
[11:46] <fsrAWAI> And I didn't have problems in 6.06
[11:46] <fredl> predaeus, is that only in feisty?
[11:46] <predaeus> kuda, I think you must instlal it first it is not installed by default
[11:46] <Alpha736> poningru: i can't reformat them though, they are both full
[11:46] <fredl> coz that's be handy.
[11:46] <poningru> Alpha736: ah yeah that sucks
[11:46] <fredl> s/s/d
[11:46] <poningru> anyway I'm off
[11:46] <Alpha736> later, thanks again
[11:47] <predaeus> fredl, as far as I know yes. only seen it on the feisty live beta cd, I am on xubuntu now and not using totem.
[11:47] <predaeus> fredl, I don't think there is a backport for that for edgy, but you could look
[11:47] <MenZa> I'm having some problems mounting an ntfs drive with ntfs-3g -- it appears to work occassionally, but the rest of the time, my device just won't mount. Here's my fdisk -l output and /etc/fstab: http://pastebin.ca/468724
[11:48] <mark_wo> i don't know, yesterday lufia ran slowly, then fast (but i don't know why) and today only slow
[11:48] <lbdsurf> how do u make my wireless card work?
[11:48] <MenZa> !wireless | lbdsurf
[11:48] <ubotu> lbdsurf: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:48] <fredl> Hmm.... I wonder... this apt-get dist-upgrade is upgrading SO many packages... I wonder if my wife has clicked on 'upgrade to 7.01' instead of just installing the updated packages.
[11:48] <lbdsurf> thanx
[11:49] <fsrAWAI> wifi totally stopped working for me in feisty, good luck lbdsurf
[11:49] <fredl> that would explain why it had been working for nearly 3 hours, her minimizing it and forgetting she had started it.
[11:49] <predaeus> fredl dist-upgrade upgrades the distribution version by default
[11:49] <gpd> poningru: fixed -- added the Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" to xorg.conf and rm -rf .gconf/apps/compiz :)
[11:49] <Flannel> predaeus: that's not true, dist-upgrade just upgrades everything, where as a normal upgrade won't bring in new dependancies
[11:49] <fredl> predaeus, well she didn't type in apt-get or anything, she just clicked when she saw the popup there were new upgrades.
[11:50] <fredl> I mean just dist-upgrade won't automatically bring you to 7.01
[11:50] <predaeus> Flannel, fredl ah yes thats a mistake on my side sorry. I usually change repos and then do dist-upgrade so I totally forgot the real meaning
[11:50] <predaeus> Sorry.
[11:50] <blippe> predaeus: i've runned apt-get dist-upgrade on my dapper box for about a year now, and it still haven't changed tno either edgy nor feisty
[11:50] <lbdsurf> for realz ok well had my wireless wrking but now says unsupported
[11:51] <fredl> but in gksu there's an 'upgrade to 7.01' button automatically so I guess she just clicked that.
[11:51] <predaeus> blippe, yes I stated that I made a mistake there, sorry.
[11:51] <blippe> predaeus: sorry, missed that you already talked about it
[11:51] <predaeus> np :-)
[11:51] <fredl> which would explain why it took so goddamn long to begin with and that it crashed when she tried to reboot after having interrupted it in the middle
[11:52] <fredl> I really hope it'll work out now and that it wasn't permanently damaged :/
[11:53] <fredl> and if I'm going to get the wireless problems other people have been having with feisty I'm going to have to fix that again as well :(((
[11:53] <fredl> are the wireless probs in feisty because of network manager?
[11:54] <fredl> does network manager still only support like three network cards or something?
[11:54] <lbdsurf> how u fix it before?
[11:55] <fredl> lbdsurf, after TONS of messing around, I didn't have 7.01 installed before but I tried to manually compile network manager on 6.10
[11:55] <fredl> that POS should never have been released on 6.10
[11:56] <eck> fredl: did you get it working? i tried to compile it from cvs once and it was just broken
[11:56] <lbdsurf> ohh ya i did that to supossibly this what i did before but it still sucks
[11:56] <fredl> eck, I did on another PC that had one of the 2 or so supported network cards.
[11:56] <eck> there's some features in the vpn component that i'd like that aren't in ubuntu yet
[11:56] <MenZa> What's a good application to decrease the quality and size of MP3 files?
[11:56] <MenZa> will Audacity do it?
[11:57] <fredl> well network manager is an excellent idea, but presented to the people as the best thing since sliced bread WAY too early.
[11:57] <lbdsurf> lol
[11:57] <hauks> does anyone have a burning programme to recomend?
[11:57] <MenZa> fredl: You're not the only one to say that ;)
[11:57] <eck> fredl: that's why there hasn't been a stable release of it yet
[11:57] <MenZa> k3b, hauks
[11:57] <fredl> so I'm curious how the version shipping in feisty will perform for me.
[11:57] <hauks> thanks
[11:58] <MenZa> np
[11:58] <fredl> eck, well then it shouldn't have been included in Ubuntu IMO
[11:58] <nn> after installing fiesty, my stdarg.h disappeared, where it g
[11:58] <lbdsurf> fiesty i have been inpressed with so far except the weird wirelwss issue
[11:58] <jkwjkw> hi
[11:58] <jkwjkw> ls
[11:58] <jkwjkw> dir
[11:59] <eck> fredl: i think that's the reason that it took so long to be shipped in the default install (with people asking for it forver)
[11:59] <jkwjkw> q
[11:59] <MenZa> jkwjkw: Could you please stop spamming?
[11:59] <jkwjkw> why"
[11:59] <eck> it will be awesome once all the kinks are worked out, but i've been waiting for that day for a long time :-\
[11:59] <nn> fiesty has been very good to me except some busted/moved headers..
[11:59] <qos> hey guys ... how to make a launcher start the application in a special directory?
[11:59] <MenZa> It's annoying to the people in the channel looking for help
[12:00] <Kim^J> Yo all, my bud have some trouble installing Ubuntu, he gets a grub error at 96% which fails the install.
[12:00] <fredl> well I'll get to find out I guess, without having asked for it :)
[12:00] <MenZa> Kim^J: Did you burn the disk at low speed?
[12:00] <Kim^J> WHat could possibly be the problem and howto install grub without using the installer?
[12:00] <lbdsurf> redwnkd and burn image
[12:00] <Kim^J> MenZa: Hmm... No, that shouldn't matter?
[12:00] <MenZa> Kim^J: Yes, if you burn it too quickly, the disk might not be burnt properly
[12:01] <MenZa> Alternatively, try checking the disk
[12:01] <Kim^J> I burned mine at 24x and my works perfect.
[12:01] <lbdsurf> or there was a dwnload error
[12:01] <Meatbag> Where's the best place for beryl help? been on the beryl forums, they couldn't help :(
[12:01] <MenZa> With the "Check disk" menu item on the boot
[12:01] <Kim^J> Meatbag: hit it.
[12:01] <eck> Kim^J: if you have the inclination, you can chroot into the install environment and try running grub-install from there and see what the problem is
[12:01] <hauks> !beryl
[12:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:01] <Alpha736> so, i figured out how to properly mount my drives... but now i don't have permission to view the contents.... can someone help please?
[12:02] <qos> hey guys ... how to make a launcher start the application in a special directory?
[12:02] <lbdsurf> im out for a bit think i found the problem with wireless be back
[12:03] <Jump86> im new to ubuntu... why am i using over 600mb of ram just sitting on my desktop?
[12:03] <fiery_cleric> qos: the easiest way is to write a script and point the launcher to the script
[12:03] <fredl> Jump86, coz of a virus named GNOME
[12:03] <eck> Jump86: probably because you're counting cache
[12:03] <backblue> there is no deb, for vmware-server-console?
[12:03] <Kim^J> Jump86: That's just how Linux works.
[12:03] <Jump86> so its nothing to worry about?
[12:03] <Kim^J> Nope.
[12:04] <eck> Jump86: run free -m and look at the -/+ buffers line
[12:04] <juanchi> hi
[12:04] <mat1980> jump86, no you have to not worry about
[12:04] <juanchi> anyone could tell me a good program to record double layer dvds???
[12:05] <nrdb> does anyone know if you can install the xilinx webpack software on ubuntu ?
[12:05] <Kim^J> juanchi: K3B.
[12:05] <qos> fiery_cleric, thanks. damn it ... that was my last solution.
[12:05] <kuba> does anyone use RecordMyDesktop/?
[12:06] <juanchi> ok
[12:06] <juanchi> thx u very much
[12:06] <juanchi> :D
[12:06] <kuba> i've got problem with this :  C compiler cannot create executables
[12:07] <kuba> when i run : './configure
[12:07] <Jump86> im showing 1011 total ram, 875 used, 135 free... in -/+ buffers/cache it shows 597 used and 413 free.. still normal?
[12:07] <eck> kuba: you need to apt-get install build-essential
[12:07] <eck> Jump86: no, something is using too much memory
[12:07] <kuba> eck: and build-essential is the packege with C compiler??
[12:07] <Jump86> how can i figure out what that is?
[12:07] <eck> kuba: yes
[12:08] <eck> Jump86: i'd just use top or gnome-system-monitor
[12:08] <Jump86> also have swap turned off
[12:08] <PloneDude> i am in Ubuntu OS now... how do i find total size of my Ubuntu..
[12:08] <helen> kuba yes
[12:08] <eck> if you can keep swap on, the kernel will use your memory more efficiently if it is turned on
[12:08] <mat1980> plone, use te command df -h
[12:08] <nrdb> PloneDude: do you mean disk usage ?
[12:09] <helen> plonedude install the system monitor on the panel, then click it and it wiull give you a few tabs with info like hdd usage, cpu ect.
[12:09] <Jump86> eck, java is using the most ram... then nautilus, beryl, swiftfox etc
[12:10] <helen> javas a hog
[12:10] <Jump86> should i turn swap on?
[12:10] <helen> thats why i try alternative ports where i can
[12:10] <Jump86> i have that off
[12:10] <eck> if you have a swap partition, wouldn't you want it on?
[12:10] <Jump86> i wanted to see if turning it off speed things up
[12:10] <mat1980> jump86, if you can it would be better, anyway
[12:10] <Jump86> im not noticing performance problems, i was just wondering
[12:11] <eck> having it on will just let you use more ram for cache (right now you will notice that more than usual is free)
[12:11] <eck> so it's better to have swap turned on even if you're not using it, but only a little bit
[12:12] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: in your free output  u have 413 mb free (buffer/cache adjusted)
[12:12] <Jump86> so the -/+ buffers part is whats actually being used and not cached?
[12:12] <PloneDude> helen: the system monitor is like mycomputer..thanks..
[12:12] <mat1980> jump, yes
[12:13] <nn> anyone know where stdarg.h went in fiesty?
[12:13] <eck> cache is just a disk cache, buffers are more complicated but conceptually similar
[12:14] <fiery_cleric> eck: what are buffers used for?
[12:14] <Jump86> ok i turned swap back on.. i currently have a 2 gig swap partition
[12:14] <sanityx> The repositories for ubuntu server are the same as desktop right
[12:14] <Kim^J> Yo, got back. When doing grub-install from inside the chrooted env i get /dev/sda3 not found or a block device.
[12:14] <eck> fiery_cleric: mmap and so forth
[12:14] <z0rz> Is there a limitation to Beryl on ATI Open-Source drivers that make it only render the desktop properly to about 2048 pixels in width?
[12:14] <PloneDude> when i installed ubuntu.. i skipped the swap partition thingie.. is it still posisble to install it now..
[12:14] <fiery_cleric> eck: oh ok ...
[12:15] <mat1980> plone, sure you can
[12:15] <mat1980> plone, use gparted to create a swap partition, than you have to change /etc/fstab to enable it on start up
[12:16] <nrdb> I would like to get giam not to display all the 'entered the room' etc messages, does anyone know how to do this ?
[12:16] <z0rz> anyone?
[12:16] <Alpha736> does anyone know how to make it so my mounted items are not shown on the desktop?
[12:16] <Kim^J> MenZa: Yo, I get /dev/sda3 not found or not a block device when doing grub-install hd0 from inside the hdd-chroot.'
[12:16] <MenZa> Kim^J: I think that was someone else :/
[12:16] <MenZa> Sorry
[12:17] <sanityx> Winners don't use drugs. And by that I mean, using gaim as an IRC client.
[12:17] <z0rz> Yeah gaim is not an IRC client
[12:17] <MenZa> it is
[12:17] <MenZa> just... not a very good one.
[12:17] <MenZa> :P
[12:17] <PloneDude> mat1980: seems quite a mouthfull... maybe i will haf to google and get a gud tutorial to guide me.. thanks man
[12:17] <sanityx> z0rz, Technically it is. Its just a terrible one.
[12:17] <Alpha736> does anyone know how to set applications to autorun?
[12:17] <z0rz> NO it's not! Pidgin might be... but gaim is definatly not
[12:17] <MenZa> Alpha736: System -> Preferences -> Session
[12:17] <sanityx> Alpha736, System -> Preferences -> Session
[12:17] <sanityx> MenZa, Jinx!
[12:17] <Alpha736> thanks
[12:18] <MenZa> sanityx: :D
[12:18] <sanityx> Yay, updates are availible! I love updates.
[12:18] <sanityx> capplets-data, gnome-control-center, libgnome-window-settings1, and libslab0
[12:19] <z0rz> Anyone know why beryl is doing this on my ATI X800? http://z0rz.com/stuff/WeirdBeryl.png
[12:19] <sanityx> I would bet because ATI's proprietary driver blows.
[12:19] <z0rz> http://z0rz.com/stuff/xorg.conf here's my xorg (different from earlier)
[12:19] <z0rz> I'm not use the proprietary driver
[12:19] <sanityx> ah.
[12:19] <z0rz> s/use/using
[12:19] <Alpha736> menza: do you know how to get rid of the icons for my mounted hard drives on my desktop?
[12:20] <Kim^J> Argh, anyone good with grub problems when installing ubuntu?
[12:20] <Alpha736> i don't like using desktop icons, i prefer menus
[12:20] <kuba> about recordMydesktop: i get this message during ./configure : configure: error: Can't find zlib
[12:20] <predaeus> Alpha736, run gconf-editor and look for Apps/Nautilus/ somewhere there are desktop icon options
[12:20] <sanityx> kuba, apt-get install zlib1g
[12:20] <sanityx> or rather, sudo apt-get install zlib1g
[12:21] <Alpha736> thanks predaeus
[12:21] <kuba> sanityx: what contain package zliblg ??
[12:21] <MenZa> Alpha736: no idea :/
[12:21] <sanityx> kuba, When it says something is missing, you should apt-cache search for that thing
[12:21] <sanityx> kuba, zlib1g
[12:21] <sanityx> thats the package name.
[12:21] <z0rz> Werid, my workspaces are gone.. all I have is 1 now.  How do I get them back?
[12:21] <sanityx> and its a ONE not and L
[12:21] <sanityx> kuba, the number one, not the letter L
[12:21] <sanityx> zlibONEg
[12:21] <z0rz> nm found it
[12:21] <sanityx> zlib1g
[12:22] <nrdb> can anyone help with installing the xilinx webpack software ?
[12:22] <kuba> sanityx: thanks i made mistake with L :)
[12:22] <Alpha736> when i install something using the Add/Remove Applications, where can i find the files for those installed apps within my filesystem?
[12:22] <helen> kuba whty dont you use the deb package?\
[12:22] <helen> kuba why dont you use the deb package?
[12:22] <kuba> dunno:)
[12:23] <Alpha736> for example, x-chat, or beryl manager
[12:23] <sanityx> Alpha736, Go to synaptic and view those packages, right click and hit properties, then go to installed files.
[12:23] <albert> !cups
[12:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:24] <sanityx> albert, If you're displaying that for your own benefit then please /msg ubotu rather then spamming it here.
[12:24] <juanchi> hi, I can't write in my ntfs partitios, I've used ntfs-3g and fuse, but I follow couldn't write, look my fstab   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18938/
[12:24] <albert> got it
[12:24] <z0rz> Hmm for some reason my secondary monitor appears to be in a horrible resolution but when I take a screen shot.  It is correct.  How can I fix this (I have an X800 that has DVI/VGA output, and indeed 1 is VGA and 1 is DVI)
[12:24] <sanityx> juanchi, Even when you do ntfs-3g /dev/foo /mountpoint?
[12:25] <juanchi> I've didn probe, may I desmount the partitions again?
[12:25] <sanityx> albert, alternatively you can do this !whatever > username That will send it in a private msg to whoever you want.
[12:26] <albert> sanityx, i fact i was just lazy, but thanks ;)
[12:26] <nir_ai_> hello, The "#!/usr/bin/env python" string (how do you call that?) for python or for any other language does not work. It complains about permissions. What should I do?
[12:26] <sanityx> albert, :-P
[12:27] <nir_ai_> I get something like: bash: ./phpsh: Permission denied
[12:27] <nir_ai_> what is wrong?
[12:28] <nir_ai_> anyone?
[12:28] <sanityx> nir_ai_, If nobody here can help, you can also check #python
[12:28] <sanityx> and possibly #bash
[12:28] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: what are the permissions on your python script?
[12:28] <psoos> hi - i wondered if anyone had any recommendations for snort on ubuntu 6.06 server. It's my first Snort box and I was wondering if I should go for Postgres or MySQL? I've heard that Postgres is faster for writes...
[12:29] <nir_ai_> gordonjcp, this happens with other languages as well, such as PHP scripts...
[12:29] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: how exactly are you running them, and how are the permissions set?
[12:29] <nir_ai_> this is why I figure it is a ubuntu issue
[12:29] <fiery_cleric> nir_ai_: probably should use a full path to the interpreter
[12:30] <fiery_cleric> are u putting like /usr/bin/...
[12:30] <fiery_cleric> nir_ai_: and the script is executable
[12:31] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: ?
[12:31] <gordonjcp> still there?
[12:31] <stoner> ow to install Ice open connection (needed to RecordMyDesktop)??
[12:31] <nir_ai_> fiery_cleric the exact line is "#!/usr/bin/env python"
[12:31] <fiery_cleric> nir_ai_: ok .. so its a python script?
[12:31] <juanchi> sanityx:    when I do:     ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/hda2, the request is:          http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18939/
[12:31] <nir_ai_> indeed
[12:31] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: how exactly are you running the script, and what are the permissions set on it?
[12:32] <sanityx> juanchi, I bet I know what that pastebin will say, but hold on let me read it.
[12:32] <nir_ai_> I am the owner of the file and its folder
[12:32] <nir_ai_> I am in the script folder and doing "./phpsh" at the prompt
[12:32] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: what are the permissions?
[12:32] <nir_ai_> (despite the name it is a python script)
[12:33] <sanityx> juanchi, ntfs-3g /dev/whatever -o force /mountpoint
[12:33] <stoner>  Can't find libICE - what can i do with it??
[12:33] <juanchi> ok
[12:33] <juanchi> I go to try
[12:33] <sanityx> or wherever the -o goes. it might go before those things, or maybe after, i dont remember. either way try it
[12:33] <sanityx> juanchi, see above
[12:33] <nir_ai_> gordonjcp, the script permissions are -rw-rw-r--
[12:33] <stoner> sanityx : could you help?
[12:33] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: well it won't run if execute isn't set...
[12:33] <psoos> ......anyone on snort postgres/mysql?
[12:33] <sanityx> juanchi, yeah its ntfs-3g /dev/device /mountpoint -o force
[12:34] <sanityx> stoner try apt-cache search libICE
[12:34] <juanchi> I follow having the same request
[12:34] <juanchi> :S
[12:34] <sanityx> stoner, try apt-get install libice6
[12:35] <nir_ai_> gordonjcp, you saved my life! this problem is haunting me for a week.
[12:35] <sanityx> juanchi, even if you do it ntfs-3g /dev/device /media/mountpoint -o force
[12:35] <juanchi> yeah
[12:35] <sanityx> juanchi, apt-get install ntfsprogs
[12:35] <sanityx> juanchi, then do ntfsfix /dev/device
[12:35] <sanityx> then try again.
[12:35] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: another one to watch for is filesystems mounted noexec...
[12:36] <juanchi> ok
[12:36] <sanityx> juanchi, one more thing
[12:36] <sanityx> juanchi, if that doesnt work, boot into windows and do chkdsk /f on it
[12:36] <nir_ai_> gordonjcp, sounds like Chinese to me but I will try to remember.
[12:36] <stoner> sanityx: and the command 'apt-cache search sth
[12:36] <juanchi> ok
[12:36] <sanityx> stoner, no more apt-cache search just apt-get install what i said
[12:36] <sanityx> Man, I'm starting to get knowledgeable. Hooray!
[12:37] <stoner> sanityx: libice6 is in the newest version:)
[12:37] <sanityx> stoner, apt-get install libicee11
[12:37] <sanityx> two es
[12:38] <sanityx> aside from that, idk, google it :-P
[12:38] <kev_b> hey all, anyone know why my feisty upgrade keeps dying at "stopping mysql database server mysqld"?
[12:38] <gordonjcp> nir_ai_: you can mount a filesystem such that no matter how the permissions are set, execute is always *off*
[12:39] <nir_ai_> I am yet to mount a file system.
[12:39] <nir_ai_> I am still crawling around my new ubuntu installation. will take some time before I walk
[12:39] <nir_ai_> switched from Windows XP 2 weeks ago
[12:40] <dirtydel> y u wanna mount a file system cant find a girl
[12:40] <dirtydel> lol
[12:40] <kev_b> or another question... if I remove mysql-server will I lose my databases or will they be there when I reinstall
[12:40] <jhaig> kev_b: I'm not sure, but I would take a backup of the database first if I were you.
[12:41] <kev_b> jhaig: what is the best way to do that? can I do it using the filesystem as I can seem to get the server to start
[12:42] <jhaig> kev_b: mysqldump
[12:42] <BetaCookies> Hey
[12:42] <kev_b> jhaig: will try that now, thanks
[12:42] <jhaig> kev_b: Or you could copy the mysql directory, but then when you restore you may need to fiddle with file permissions, etc.  mysqldump is much easier.
[12:43] <BetaCookies> I just upgraded from edgy to feisty, and there are now two network manager icons, one for network monitor and the other for network manager.. how do I remove network monitor?
[12:43] <ikonia_> right click and remove it
[12:47] <Ax4> my roomates computer has "Win32.Trojandownloader.Zlob" - lol
[12:48] <adrian_> where can i get a channel in spanish? about apache
[12:48] <ikonia_> not in here
[12:48] <ikonia_> this is ubuntu support
[12:48] <adrian_> im learning, im sorry
[12:50] <munckfish> Hi I'm using the feisty live cd to rearrange my existing HD partitions before installing but everytime I make a change nautilus is automounting all the partitions - is there a way to stop that?
[12:50] <jhaig> adrian_: Not sure, but you could try #ubuntu-es
[12:50] <Jump86> he left
[12:51] <menisk> I have made the decision to ditch windows as I have no issues with driver support in linux and have worshipped ubuntu for the past year, I just cannot work out how to dismount a partition so I can wipe my old windows NTFS partition and extend the ubuntu one over it, is someone able to help?
[12:51] <ikonia_> menisk type "umount"
[12:51] <ikonia_> menisk or "man umount"
[12:51] <ikonia_> or right click on the drive and hit "unmount"
[12:52] <menisk> ikonia riht click on the driver where?
[12:52] <ikonia_> I can't believe you've used ubuntu for a year and never unmounted a drive
[12:52] <phy3> kill nautilus?
[12:52] <menisk> I mounted it into /windows.
[12:52] <ikonia_> right click on the drive icon - not driver
[12:52] <ikonia_> phy3 ha ha genius
[12:52] <menisk> ikonia, this isn't an external just the partiton. Shows up as a folder. /Windows.
[12:53] <ikonia_> menisk external ???
[12:53] <ikonia_> menisk man "umount"
[12:53] <jonah_> hi talking to my dad over gaim and he says he booted up this morning into ubuntu and now nothings working, he has padlocks on everything.... is there anything i can tell him to try to do to fix it, he's older and pretty slow...
[12:54] <jrib> menisk: just do "sudo umount /Windows" then do what you want with the partition in gparted and edit  /etc/fstab to reflect your changes
[12:54] <epssi> hello
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> hi
[12:54] <ikonia_> jonah_ looks like the permissions are messed up, Use sudo to change the permissions to something more appropriate
[12:54] <zcat[1] > ikonia: how'd they get messed up though?
[12:55] <menisk> jrib: Awesome, thanks.
[12:55] <ikonia_> I don't know - I'm not on his box
[12:55] <jonah_> ikonia_ is there a neat command i can give him to fix this?
[12:55] <ikonia_> jonah_ not really
[12:55] <v21> does some of u know in which program i could create my own skin for XMMS player ??
[12:55] <epssi> how do I find out whats the problem when starting a live *buntu? after the loadup the screen just goes dark
[12:55] <jrib> menisk: if you want to extend the ubuntu partition though, you'd need to do that from a live cd since you can't work on a mounted partition
[12:55] <mcquaid> i don't know how this happened, but something has gotten really hosed with my user accounts
[12:55] <ikonia_> v21 gimp
[12:56] <epssi> the same happens with installed xubuntu
[12:56] <zcat[1] > jonah_: I'd suspect that the filesystem has been mounted read-only for some reason.. perhaps because it's got orrupted somehow?
[12:56] <ikonia_> zcat[1]  thats an excellent call
[12:56] <mcquaid> i can't get X to start for any user, but I don't think it's really an X issue.  I tried to create a text file as any user
[12:56] <menisk> jrib, I have a copy of the live CD, was just too lazy to reboot.
[12:56] <mcquaid> and it lets me create the file, but it's empty
[12:56] <jonah_> he says firefox/open office etc nothign is working except gaim
[12:56] <phy3> eppsi --- control alt F1 drops you to the console, probably X can't run with your video card
[12:56] <v21> gimp ... but i must edit existed skin ?
[12:57] <mcquaid> if i try to reopen it and make changes it says the one on the disc is newer, i try to overwrite anyway and the contents remains empty
[12:57] <epssi> X works with backtrack live cd
[12:57] <phy3> eppse -- that was my problem, black after the live cd loads, even though there was a good screen before
[12:57] <epssi> oh
[12:58] <epssi> how do you open a console if X isn't working?
[12:58] <jrib> v21: http://www.xmms.org/faq.php#Skins4
[12:58] <phy3> eppsi : I had tw9o nvidia cards, one newer, one older, two different drivers needed, I think, took out the old one, and good to go. No idea what you might have to do
[12:59] <zcat[1] > hmmmm. perhaps I'm wrong. With the whole filesystem readonly I wouldn't expect him to be able to log in at all..
[12:59] <phy3> eppsi --- but control alt F1 drops you into a console so you can poke around
[12:59] <epssi> the mobo has its own output for a screen, do you think it could be messing things up?
[01:00] <epssi> phy3: the mobo has its own output for a screen, do you think it could be messing things up?
[01:00] <graveson1> can anyone recommend an ubuntu backup software (backups and images) for recovery
[01:00] <v21> jrib: thx man a lot !! this is that i looking for
[01:00] <v21> :)
[01:00] <phy3> eppsi -- you mean integrated video on the mobo...
[01:01] <ubuntu> hi all
[01:01] <DiThi> how can I save the package selection for instaling it later in another computer?
[01:01] <epssi> phy3: you mean if it has an output it has to have a videocard in it?
[01:02] <phy3> eppsi -- there can be a video chipset integrated onto the motherboard, or you can have that function on PCI, AGP, or PCI-E cards added
[01:03] <nagyv> hello! is there a mace? (wine for mac applications)
[01:03] <mjr> nagyv, no, not really. GNUstep can be useful in porting/compiling Mac apps for GNU/Linux
[01:03] <phy3> eppsi -- the point will be to find out if the drivers in Ubuntu installation CD support your video hardware, whatever it is
[01:03] <mjr> but nothing that would run them as is really
[01:04] <phy3> eppsi --- first see what the console has to say when it goes black -- control alt F1
[01:04] <mzaza> Is there anyway that I make the QT applications, like skype, look better on gnome?
[01:05] <epssi> phy3: omg it seems the mobo has a video chip, i took the video card out from the pci slot and X started fine
[01:05] <phy3> good
[01:05] <epssi> phy3: thanks
[01:05] <phy3> go from there!
[01:05] <quazion> Hello, i was wondering if i can use the keychain without having to enter my password everytime..
[01:06] <O_connor> erver irc.epiknet.org
[01:06] <epssi> phy3: this was just some motherboard and a processor i found last weekend
[01:06] <yogesh_> hi all , I m facing problem like when i open any application it wil take so much time to start .I m using edgy -ubuntu . So can anybody help me to get rid of this problem
[01:06] <yogesh_> lets say vi , wil take 5 min to start
[01:06] <yogesh_> and after start application runs as usual speed
[01:07] <phy3> * wonders where people come up with some of these troubles (no offense intended)
[01:07] <phy3> weird
[01:09] <phy3> you silenced the room!
[01:09] <yogesh_> what
[01:09] <phy3> Sorry, I have no idea, will be quiet
[01:09] <yogesh_> can u tell me IRC channel where i can ask this questions
[01:09] <phy3> this is it
[01:10] <jhaig> What applications?
[01:10] <quazion> seems he means all applications
[01:10] <quazion> i first wanted to say try prelink
[01:10] <nop_>  does anybody know how to change a default TK font on linux?
[01:10] <quazion> but 5 minutes is like a real problem
[01:10] <jhaig> yogesh_: Are you using a network file system?  I had a problem with NFS in feisty, but you said edgy, so it probably isn't relevant.
[01:11] <yogesh_> quazion:ya and after application runs at usual speed
[01:11] <yogesh_> jhaig: no i m not using NFS
[01:11] <XCute4God> hi all
[01:11] <XCute4God> good morning
[01:12] <jhaig> yogesh_: What does your /etc/nssswitch say?  Specifically, the line starting 'hosts'.
[01:14] <guidouil> hello all, my nautilus is hanguing very long when I try to connect to ssh serv and is crashing often, any ID why ?
[01:14] <sahil> is it possible to download and install manufacturer driver updates in Ubuntu?
[01:15] <crdlb> sahil: generally, no
[01:15] <crdlb> you have to wait for them to be included in the kernel
[01:15] <guidouil> sahil, everything is possible with Ubuntu ;)
[01:15] <crdlb> and you upgrade kernels with distribution upgrades
[01:15] <sahil> lol, now im confused
[01:15] <sahil> my friend wants Ubuntu
[01:16] <sahil> he doesnt want to install it cuz he needs some special compaq driver to connect to the internet
[01:16] <sahil> he had the same problem when he installed vista
[01:16] <crdlb> sahil: does compaq provide a linux driver?
[01:16] <crdlb> is it an ethernet adapter?
[01:17] <crdlb> or some usb crap?
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> sahil: some manufacturers (eg nvidia, ati) provide drivers, but most don't and generally the drivers that are available are of poor quality. However there're quite a lot of open source drivers around these days.
[01:17] <sahil> normal ethernet
[01:17] <guidouil> sahil, if you want the latest (but non the easyest) linux/kernel/driver go to archlinux or gentoo, if you like it easy stick to ubuntu and wait for the pkg :P
[01:17] <jgonzalez> hi
[01:17] <graveson1> how do i execute a jar file. having problems running a jar file. i have no java experience
[01:17] <Terrasque> sahil: and you're sure it doesn't work out of the box with ubuntu?
[01:18] <sahil> not sure, im asking him now
[01:18] <crdlb> sahil: you would generally never download an ethernet card driver from a manufacturer, all drivers like that are supposed to come with ubuntu's kernel
[01:18] <crdlb> and I doubt compaq makes a driver for linux
[01:18] <guidouil> graveson1,  chmod +x yourfile.jar then  java yourfile.jar
[01:18] <sanityx> What's wrong with this line? What is wrong with this line? /dev/sdc1 "/media/External 1/" ntfs-3g defaults,force,noauto 0 1
[01:18] <sanityx> thats in fstab
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> would ndiswrapper work for that sort of thing? Or is it just for wireless stuff.
[01:19] <jgonzalez> i have upgraded to feisty and now my click from scroll in mouse doesn't works :( what can i dO?
[01:19] <sanityx> SlimeyPete, ndiswrapper works for wifi, and some network cards, and thats all I'v eheard.
[01:19] <guidouil> jgonzalez, look at your xorg.conf ;)
[01:19] <MattJ> Hi all. Is there any way to install from the Desktop CD without X? :)
[01:19] <jgonzalez> guidouil, what should i change ?
[01:20] <crdlb> jgonzalez: open xev in a terminal and press the button, does it register a press of "Button 2"?
[01:20] <guidouil> xaxis if my memory is right
[01:20] <guidouil> go ask google ;)
[01:20] <epssi> MattJ: try the alternate install cd?
[01:20] <sanityx> MattJ, You want to have no x AFTER you install?
[01:20] <jhaig> MattJ: I don't think so, other than installing and then uninstalling X.
[01:20] <JanK_> whats the replacement for  /etc/inetd.conf in ubuntu? i want to add "svn stream tcp nowait svn /usr/local/bin/svnserve svnserve -i -r /var/svn" to it
[01:20] <sanityx> MattJ, You can use the alternate cd to install a command line system
[01:20] <jgonzalez> crdlb, it doesn't show anything :(
[01:21] <MattJ> No, I'm just wondering if I can install without X, then install my drivers
[01:21] <graveson1> guiouil: i tried that but i receive a lot of errors
[01:21] <MattJ> X keeps hanging, but the CD actually boots fine
[01:21] <guidouil> MattJ, install the server ver of ubuntu :P
[01:21] <crdlb> jgonzalez: you gave the little xev window focus and nothing shows up in the terminal?
[01:21] <graveson1> guidouil: i tried that but i receive a lot of errors
[01:21] <fiery_cleric> JanK_: i ve an /etc/inetd.conf .... what version ?
[01:21] <jgonzalez> crdlb, yes
[01:21] <jgonzalez> a little xev windows but nothing changes
[01:21] <crdlb> jgonzalez: but you see button1 if you left click?
[01:22] <JanK_> fiery_cleric: 7.04 but the file is empty or i created it, dont know
[01:22] <jgonzalez> crdlb, not :(
[01:22] <crdlb> jgonzalez: you're not understanding what I'm saying then
[01:22] <JanK_> but there is no /etc/init.d/inetd
[01:22] <crdlb> jgonzalez: you have to click inside of that little window, then some output will appear in the terminal window
[01:23] <jgonzalez> crdlb, i'm doing it, but nothing appears in terminal :(
[01:23] <fiery_cleric> JanK_: they may not be using inetd anymore ... on dapper which i use its being used
[01:23] <crdlb> jgonzalez: you're left clicking now?
[01:23] <jgonzalez> no no
[01:23] <jgonzalez> sorry
[01:23] <jgonzalez> i exec "open xev"
[01:23] <jgonzalez> :D
[01:23] <guidouil> graveson1, try to edit the InputDevice part and add Option	"ZAxisMapping"	"4 5"
[01:23] <kuba>  i have installed RecordMyDesktop.how to run it??
[01:24] <phy3> MattJ --- When you get the black screen try Control -Alt-F1 to drop into a console
[01:24] <jgonzalez> crdlb, nothing appears with click from scroll
[01:24] <jgonzalez> but with other buttons i can see debug text
[01:24] <graveson1> guidouil: wow, that is a bit over my head. where is the InputDevice
[01:24] <MattJ> phy3: Thanks, I can do that. Is there a way to install from there? I can even connect to the internet...
[01:24] <crdlb> jgonzalez: what kind of mouse is this?
[01:24] <kuba>  i have installed RecordMyDesktop.how to run it??
[01:25] <guidouil> graveson1, /etc/X11/xorg.conf (use tab key, it hepls)
[01:25] <jgonzalez> crdlb, an standar usb mouse with 2 buttons + scroll (with a click in scroll)
[01:25] <graveson1> guidouil: how does the xorg.conf relate to Java
[01:26] <phy3> MattJ--- I think you can use     apt    to get packages, but I'm not knowledgeable there... anyone?
[01:26] <MattJ> Maybe I had better just get the alternate CD :/
[01:26] <crdlb> jgonzalez: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <guidouil> oups I must e to high I thout it was about the wheel mouse scrolling prob, LOL
[01:26] <crdlb> !pastebin | jgonzalez
[01:26] <ubotu> jgonzalez: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> MattJ: use "apt-cache search <name>" to check whether a package is available and then "sudo apt-get install <packagename>" to install it (it'll ask for your user password)
[01:27] <guidouil> sorry graveson1
[01:27] <alistair_blunt> hi everybody
[01:27] <kuba>  i have installed RecordMyDesktop.how to run it??
[01:27] <SlimeyPete> MattJ: you can also run "sudo Aptitude" if you want a menu-driven system
[01:28] <jgonzalez> crdlb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18940/
[01:28] <MattJ> I know.......
[01:28] <moDumass> evenin all, i have gimp running am i going to have to dload a whole new app to get gimpshop, or is it jsut a skin?
[01:28] <tarnap> damned... my generic kernel doesn't boot =)
[01:28] <moDumass> a plugin of sorts?
[01:29] <mr_lars> hi all
[01:29] <alistair_blunt> i need suggestions about web browsers and audio-video problems (6.10)
[01:29] <vikky> hie everybody
[01:29] <alistair_blunt> hie
[01:30] <crdlb> jgonzalez: try setting Emulate3Buttons to "false"
[01:30] <vikky> i hav a pc which runs at 128 mb ram
[01:30] <kuba> i have installed RecordMyDesktop.how to run it??
[01:30] <crdlb> since you don't want to do that, since you have a real middle button
[01:30] <vikky> can i install ubuntu with that
[01:30] <tarnap> vikky... i had a computer which runned with 64kb of memory...
[01:30] <tarnap> =)
[01:30] <tarnap> vikky... shure you can...
[01:30] <vikky> how come
[01:31] <tarnap> try xubuntu... is a little thiner
[01:31] <kuba> could anyone answer me??
[01:31] <jhaig> tarnap: 64kb of memory?  That sounds like a home computer from the 80s.  :-)
[01:31] <vikky> is it free
[01:31] <kuba> could anyone answer me??
[01:31] <vikky> i mean can be downloaded from net
[01:31] <SlimeyPete> kuba: looks like no-one knows. Have you read the project website, if there is one?
[01:31] <tarnap> it's a computer from the 80ies
[01:31] <tarnap> =)
[01:31] <vikky> ok thanx
[01:31] <graveson1> where can i find a ubuntu package for the latest azureus client
[01:31] <alistair_blunt> kuba:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[01:31] <crdlb> jgonzalez: restart X, then if that doesn't work I can think of another thing to try
[01:32] <F-nkyMNK> Hey all, just feelin' the Ubu looove ;) ow! Keep it up :D
[01:32] <jhaig> tarnap: OK, I thought it was a typo.  Mine only had 32k.
[01:32] <jgonzalez> crdlb, ok, i will do it
[01:33] <crdlb> jgonzalez: it might also help to add: Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3"
[01:33] <crdlb> to that section
[01:33] <predaeus> graveson1, azureus is in the repos
[01:33] <predaeus> graveson1, oh sorry, answered too fast
[01:33] <tarnap> i just don't get it... the generic kernel doesn't boot at all... it just doesn't find the harddiscs, even if the 386 kernel finds them...
[01:34] <graveson1> predaeus: downlaoded the latest version ,however i am problems executing the jar file
[01:34] <predaeus> tarnap, probably the generic one is already optimized for 686 or so.
[01:34] <tarnap> i have a dualcore d930
[01:35] <tarnap> that one is 686
[01:35] <tarnap> =)
[01:35] <predaeus> oh sorry thought it's from the 80s
[01:35] <tarnap> no... that one died some decades ago..
[01:35] <mr_lars> i have a unix-n00b question: how can i grant write access to my user for a directory in /opt ? sudo chmod username w -R /directoryname/ ?
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[01:36] <moDumass> hey all, is it worth installing gimpshop?
[01:36] <tarnap> mr_lars:  +w
[01:36] <predaeus> mr_lars, no idea if that is a good idea at all but would be   sudo chmod u+w -R username dirname     I think
[01:36] <webmeister> Servus
[01:37] <mr_lars> security issues?
[01:37] <tarnap> hallo webmeister
[01:37] <predaeus> tarnap, mr_lars just +w would add write rights for everybody. no good idea.   u+w adds only for owner
[01:37] <tarnap> but he's not the owner of /opt
[01:37] <webmeister> How can i display the first 2 pages of a pdf document in fullscreen?
[01:37] <mr_lars> but the owner is root
[01:37] <Karol84PL> Hello, I have a problem with downloading pictures from my Canon A430 camera on Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy). Just after pluging the camera a window appears - then I click on Import photos, but "Could not claim interface 0 (m). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device." error appears. Any suggestions?
[01:37] <predaeus> mr_lars, probably.    for   u+w to work you would have to chown to username.  else it would still be root's dir
[01:38] <predaeus> mr_lars, what do you need that for, probably there is some better solution?
[01:38] <ben_underscore> anyone know much about evolution? i want to harvest lots of email addresses from my email collection .... any ideas?
[01:38] <tarnap> that's why i said +w, predaeus
[01:38] <tarnap> =))
[01:38] <predaeus> tarnap, doesn't +w change owner, group and others to write?
[01:38] <mr_lars> i have to update azureus, installed from external pakege
[01:38] <knp> Anyone knows how to make my napnels transparently without icons on them ? Im using xfce on xubuntu.
[01:38] <tarnap> +w it's like a+w
[01:39] <webmeister> Kann mir jemand sagen, wie ich 2 Seiten von einem PDF Dokument im Vollbildmodus anzeigen lasse?
[01:39] <knp> Anyone knows how to make my panels transparently without icons on them ? Im using xfce on xubuntu.
[01:39] <tarnap> so all can write...
[01:39] <Pici> !de | webmeister
[01:39] <freeeky> hi! does anyone knows how to change font and color in menu bars?
[01:39] <ubotu> webmeister: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:39] <Garnol> i have a SD Card reader in my Laptop, but ubuntu cant find any SD cards .. im not even sure if ubuntu knows something about the card reader .. can you tell me where i can find a tutorial on SD Card readers ??
[01:39] <tarnap> hrhr... ubotu is a kewl bot
[01:39] <tarnap> webmeister... gibt es keinen fullscreen modus?
[01:39] <mr_lars> so or i grant write acess to my user or i use gksudo azureus
[01:40] <AmirB> I can't manage to blacklist bcm43xx when using ndiswrapper
[01:40] <mr_lars> but i don't like to use root sudo
[01:40] <tarnap> wait... you go thru all that trouble to use azureus mr_lars?
[01:40] <mjr> Garnol, SD card readers are traditionally a toughie because of licensing restrictions associated with them. It won't necessarily work at all, but I don't know the latest word.
[01:40] <mr_lars> :D
[01:40] <Pici> !english
[01:40] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:40] <mr_lars> ahahaha
[01:40] <jrib> tarnap: actually, +w takes into account the umask, so since the default umask is 0222, +w will only give the owner write permissions unless the umask was changed
[01:40] <predaeus> webmeister, I think there is something like Dual view in evince that will show 2 pages next to each other, then do fullscreen with F11 or whatever
[01:40] <mr_lars> not all thet trouble
[01:40] <freeeky> hi! does anyone knows how to change font and color in menu bars?
[01:41] <jrib> tarnap: erm, default is 022 is what I meant
[01:41] <n2diy> How do I request Dapper CDs from Shipit? Only Feisty CDs are offered?
[01:41] <tarnap> mr_lars... try trasmission
[01:41] <tarnap> i think it's cleaner
[01:41] <tarnap> and it works well
[01:41] <mr_lars> trasmission is not allowed on oink
[01:41] <mr_lars> only old versions
[01:42] <tarnap> oink == ??
[01:42] <mr_lars> torrent community
[01:42] <mr_lars> not important
[01:42] <AmirB> I added "blacklist bcm43xx" to modprobe.d/blacklist but when I type "ndiswrapper -l" it still tells me that there is an alternate driver called bcm43xx and it interferes because I have to type "sudo dhclient eth1" everytime I log in just to get it to work! (eth1 is the interface ndiswrapper assigns the card to)
[01:42] <AmirB> what do I do to make permanent?
[01:43] <tarnap> i $ sudo rm -rf / and the shell wants me to insert a password.... but i don't trust the shell... so i didn't give it to her...
[01:43] <moDumass> someone, please help me sort this out, how do i install gimpshop or make modifications to change gimp ino tgimpshop in ubuntu?
[01:43] <moDumass> or point me in the right direction, because google well, just not playing nice
[01:43] <void^> tarnap: wise man.
[01:43] <wakeup_> heyho
[01:43] <Chump> hello
[01:43] <tarnap> fnks void^
[01:43] <mr_lars> sowhat how can i use to umask to grant to my user w access?
[01:43] <tarnap> ^^
[01:43] <Skylight> Hi guys
[01:44] <Chump> does anyone know if it is possible to use the read command or ask user input in any way in the boot scripts
[01:44] <Skylight> Does anyone know if you can sync the ipod with rythmbox?
[01:44] <benkoo> when i input iwconfig ath0 mode monitor   it replys Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[01:44] <benkoo>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[01:44] <knp> Anyone knows how to make my panels transparently without icons on them ? Im using xfce on xubuntu.
[01:44] <mr_lars> sudo umask myuser ...
[01:44] <benkoo> what 't wrong how can i set my wlan card to monitor mode
[01:45] <jrib> mr_lars: what are you trying to do?
[01:45] <AmirB> I can't manage to blacklist bcm43xx when using ndiswrapper
[01:45] <AmirB> I added "blacklist bcm43xx" to modprobe.d/blacklist but when I type "ndiswrapper -l" it still tells me that there is an alternate driver called bcm43xx and it interferes because I have to type "sudo dhclient eth1" everytime I log in just to get it to work! (eth1 is the interface ndiswrapper assigns the card to)
[01:45] <AmirB> what do I do to make permanent?
[01:45] <mr_lars> grant to my user write access to a plugin dir in /opt/
[01:45] <Chump> I'm looking for a way to start-up with different configurations
[01:45] <Chump> Does anyone has any tip how to do that?
[01:46] <Chump> Cause Feisty doesn't seem to be able to start-up in another runlevel but 2 !
[01:46] <void^> Chump: you get the options the kernel is booted with in a shell environment variable.
[01:46] <jrib> mr_lars: well if no one else uses the computer, just change the owner to your user
[01:46] <mr_lars> how?
[01:46] <jrib> !permissions > mr_lars (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:46] <n2diy> Chump: Why focus on boot scripts? Explore log in, log out stuff?
[01:46] <Chump> void^: What shell environment variable and which options?
[01:47] <jrib> mr_lars: you use chown
[01:47] <Chump> n2diy: I need to be able to start my notebook with different xorg.conf for different second screens
[01:47] <void^> Chump: actually, you can always see it in /proc/cmdline
[01:47] <mr_lars> ah not chmod?
[01:47] <jrib> mr_lars: chmod for permissions, chown for ownership
[01:48] <mr_lars> ok tnx i have to study
[01:48] <mr_lars> very kind
[01:48] <tarnap> mr_lars chown == change owner
[01:49] <AutumnCat> Chump: Two Screens can be setup in one xorg.conf
[01:49] <Chump> void^: THAT's WHAT I NEED, THANKS
[01:49] <mr_lars> the synt is like chmod?
[01:49] <benkoo> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[01:49] <benkoo>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[01:49] <benkoo> help
[01:50] <tarnap> sudo chown username -R /path/to/dir
[01:50] <Chump> AutomnCat: How do you mean.?
[01:50] <n2diy> Chump: Roger that, you should be able to do that with a login script. A kiosk might be worth exploring?
[01:50] <mr_lars> chown lars -R /directory/ ?
[01:51] <mr_lars> tnx tarnap, i go!
[01:51] <AmirB> how do I blacklist the bcm43xx wireless driver permanently?
[01:51] <mr_lars> i go eating, first
[01:51] <mr_lars> ;)
[01:51] <mr_lars> byebye
[01:51] <ItalicSquirrel> hello all... it's been forever since i've used IRC...
[01:52] <kairu0> anyone recommend a gtk bittorrent client? (so far azureus is too heavy and deluge not mature enough)
[01:52] <soundray> AmirB: sudo sh -c 'echo bcm43xx >/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43xx'
[01:52] <goblin> #quake.net
[01:53] <tarnap> kairu0, transmission is nice
[01:53] <soundray> AmirB: oops, correction:
[01:53] <soundray> AmirB: sudo sh -c 'echo blacklist bcm43xx >/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43xx'
[01:53] <ItalicSquirrel> It's also been a while since I decided to try linux again, and quite a few things seemed to have changed..  I'm having difficulty getting my SB Live! 24-bit external to work with feisty...
[01:53] <predaeus> kairu0, there is gnome-btdownload
[01:53] <ItalicSquirrel> when it's booting up, i hear the speakers popping and making noise, and the system is seeing the device, or was, but it's not using it...
[01:53] <soundray> !sound > ItalicSquirrel, please read the private message from ubotu. Welcome back :)
[01:54] <kairu0> tamap/predaeus: is there anything with a rich interface like azureus but not so demanding on the sytem?
[01:54] <AmirB> soundray: I hope that works
[01:54] <soundray> AmirB: why shouldn't it?
[01:55] <soundray> !blacklist > AmirB, see the factoid in your private messages
[01:55] <predaeus> kairu0, you could check this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client
[01:56] <ItalicSquirrel> thanks soundray.  i'll play around with it for a few minutes and see what i can figure out
[01:56] <AmirB> soundray: yes, I had added that, and it said that it's blacklisted, but when I write "ndiswrapper -l" it still says that there is an alternate driver called bcm43xx
[01:56] <kairu0> predaeus, thnkx
[01:57] <nomad111> hey all i have a problem with desktop effects
[01:57] <soundray> AmirB: for the current session, you also have to 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx'. Alternatively, just reboot to put the blacklisting in effect.
[01:57] <nomad111> whenever switch it in i end up having one desktop
[01:57] <nomad111> so i cant use the cube
[01:58] <tarnap> kairu0 i told you... transmission is nice =)
[01:58] <nomad111> without desktop effects i have two desktops
[01:58] <AmirB> soundray: trust me, I've rebooted many times :(
[01:58] <nomad111> is there a way to fix this issue?
[01:58] <kairu0> tamap, hmmm well maybe i'll take another look at it. it was just too simple at first glance
[01:58] <soundray> AmirB: after blacklisting the driver?
[01:58] <philipsmith> I upgraded to Feisty from Dapper (from and ISO). In Dapper I could have 4 "window selectors" (ie, work space windows) in the lower right hand corner of the work space. Feisty seems to limit this to 2 "window selector." How do I get 4 in Feisty?
[01:58] <AmirB> soundray: and if I do sudo rmmod bcm43xx it returns with an error
[01:58] <AmirB> soundray: yes
[01:59] <soundray> philipsmith: right-click the selector, Properties
[01:59] <AmirB> soundray: i have to type sudo dhclient eth1 every time I log in to get it to work
[01:59] <soundray> AmirB: what's the error? Paste it here only if it's short
[01:59] <tarnap> it is simple has meany features and has an awesome gui
[01:59] <n2diy> philipsmith: Can't you right click on the tool bar, and edit it's properties?
[01:59] <tarnap> irc + ssl == silc?
[01:59] <AmirB> ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[01:59] <robinsjostrom> i dont really get how ubuntu have so many users =/
[01:59] <AmirB> soundray: ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:00] <tarnap> robinsjostrom... me neither =)
[02:00] <soundray> AmirB: that means your blacklisting has worked.
[02:00] <tarnap> that's why i use it
[02:00] <philipsmith> soundray: Many thanks. I owe you a Coke. Best regards, Phil Smith, Duluth, GA
[02:00] <philipsmith> n2diy: Many thanks!
[02:00] <n2diy> philipsmith: Nada. :)
[02:01] <robinsjostrom> tarnap: yea and has an irc channel with over 1200+ people in need of help
[02:01] <soundray> AmirB: do a 'sudo sh -c 'echo auto eth1 >/etc/network/interfaces' to bring eth1 up automatically at boot time.
[02:01] <AmirB> soundray: and yet, when I type "ndiswrapper -l" I get: "bcmwl5 : driver installed
[02:01] <AmirB>         device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[02:01] <tarnap> well... don't take a look at the windows channels ;-)
[02:01] <tarnap> robinsjostrom:
[02:01] <ZeroSystem> hi, i want to make a file server on my network but i dont know why none of the pc on the network can access it , and what is. what should i do ?
[02:02] <robinsjostrom> tarnap: 200 people
[02:02] <soundray> AmirB: so, have you tried blacklisting bcmwl5?
[02:02] <uadrian> hey. my ubuntu usually freezing on reboots. catched the last line in debug mode, it says "ndiswrapper - using IRQ 11" and total freeze. only turn off helps
[02:02] <AmirB> soundray: bcmwl5 is the driver I need to get the internet working. why would I blacklist it?
[02:03] <tarnap> u damnit... i lost ^^
[02:03] <robinsjostrom> tarnap: yea go get vista or something =D
[02:03] <moonwatcher> hi
[02:03] <soundray> AmirB: bcmwl5 is the name of the driver that ndiswrapper enables?
[02:03] <robinsjostrom> helloes
[02:03] <ItalicSquirrel> okay soundray, that troubleshooting page might have helped me before i did something stupid a couple hours ago and tried to recompile ALSA.. now it's not seeing any of the stuff i installed earlier!
[02:04] <ItalicSquirrel> should i try to install it again?
[02:04] <moonwatcher> after a frsh install, i just opened open office first time and non of the icons show
[02:04] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: what, feisty or alsa?
[02:04] <moonwatcher> anyone seen this happen?
[02:04] <tarnap> hrhr...
[02:04] <ItalicSquirrel> soundray:  alsa
[02:04] <AmirB> soundray: yes
[02:04] <tarnap> i usually can solve my problems alone... that's why i like ubuntu so much...
[02:04] <tarnap> well... not only ubuntu... gentoo is nice too
[02:04] <tarnap> and lfs
[02:05] <robinsjostrom> btw how good is ubuntu supporting plug and play and wireless etc?
[02:05] <ItalicSquirrel> ditto that tarnap;  i've had decent luck, being a newby to linux again.. i've had good luck fixing problems
[02:05] <AmirB> soundray: this is interesting...eth1 doesnt even exist in the interfaces file...and yet when I type iwconfig it shows up...
[02:05] <soundray> AmirB: if that is so, I can see nothing wrong with ndiswrapper -l giving out the message above
[02:05] <ItalicSquirrel> i mean.. i got my TV tuner working, QAM and all...  now i'm working on the sound :)
[02:05] <AmirB> soundray: then explain to me why the internet doesn't work on startup without me writing sudo dhclient eth1?
[02:06] <soundray> AmirB: it's probably configured via NetworkManager in that case. If you want to use interfaces, you should disable roaming
[02:06] <lonya> Bonjour
[02:06] <AmirB> soundray: btw, in the interfaces file eth0 is listed as the auto
[02:06] <n2diy> ! lonya | fr
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lonya - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <AmirB> soundray: hold on, brb
[02:06] <n2diy> ! fr | lonya
[02:06] <ubotu> lonya: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:06] <soundray> AmirB: please tone down your demands
[02:07] <Pici> !fr | lonya
[02:07] <Pici> oops
[02:07] <AmirB> soundray: (sorry!)
[02:07] <carlesoriol> !cat
[02:07] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:07] <tarnap> ubotu: i need some help
[02:07] <ItalicSquirrel> the biggest problem i've been having with ubuntu is all of the tutorials and howto's i'm finding are referring to modules.conf, etc, stuff that was apparently abandoned in the 2.6 kernels...
[02:07] <tarnap> (let's see how he reacts)
[02:07] <tarnap> "he"
[02:08] <Chump> void^: you just made my day
[02:08] <Chump> bye
[02:08] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: if you're lucky, a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa alsa-utils' will overwrite the changes you made by compiling your own alsa.
[02:08] <ItalicSquirrel> alright
[02:08] <tarnap> "he" sent me an private query... how kewl =)
[02:08] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: sorry, replace 'alsa' with 'alsa-base'
[02:08] <ItalicSquirrel> alright
[02:09] <ItalicSquirrel> reboot?
[02:09] <kadakas> Is there any way to eliminate the 3 different copypaste buffers in Ubuntu 7.04? I'd like to copy by selecting in shell and paste with middleclick OR ctrl-v OR menu->paste, like in windows XP
[02:09] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: try the fix from the page first (wherever you got to). Maybe rebooting isn't necessary.
[02:09] <tarnap> well... gotta get back to work
[02:10] <zeroday> i have a strange problem when suddenly my comp will freeze and the Num Lock, Caps Lock and Acroll Lock keys will flash
[02:10] <ItalicSquirrel> alright
[02:10] <n2diy> kadakas: just use CTRL-C and CTRL-V in both apps?
[02:10] <kadakas> im used to using all of them in mixed order
[02:10] <ItalicSquirrel> well after i recompiled alsa, it was seeing the card.. but i rebooted and now it's not seeing the card at all.. which is where i decided to check out the IRC channel :)
[02:10] <kadakas> sometimes one is better that the other
[02:11] <Pici> zeroday: You dont by chance happen to have a KVM on that computer, do you?
[02:11] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: was the one you compiled a more recent version than the ubuntu one?
[02:11] <zeroday> Pici: KVM? no dont think so i use ssh and vnc. but no virtualization
[02:11] <ItalicSquirrel> yeah, it was
[02:11] <zeroday> !kvm
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <|ericsson|> How would I create public/private key on a backuppc server?
[02:12] <Horscht> does someone know of a Linux alternative to MediaMonkey? It allows one to tagg untagged mp3 files using Amazon and also to automaticaly download/embed covers
[02:12] <zeroday> Horscht: amarok
[02:13] <Horscht> amarok doesn't quite cut it
[02:13] <Horscht> I have a few MP3s that have no tags at all.
[02:13] <Horscht> How would I go about having them tagged from the AMazon database?
[02:14] <Horscht> given the fact that i actualy KNOW the artist, album
[02:14] <aventin> Horscht: i'm also on the lookout for such an application. like "tag and rename" for windows.
[02:14] <zeroday> Horscht: easytag mp3 editor i think
[02:14] <ItalicSquirrel> let me try to recompile ALSA again and see if i can't get it to work.. by the way, i'm using 1.0.13
[02:14] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: did you modify the kernel drivers at all?
[02:15] <zeroday> Horscht: i know i shouldnt say its name here but i got it via automatix
[02:15] <ItalicSquirrel> no, i thought it was in a module?
[02:15] <Horscht> easytag lets me search for stuff. that's correct
[02:15] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: yes, they are
[02:15] <Horscht> but how would I go about getting easytag to download the covers and embed it into the ID3 tag?
[02:15] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: consider compiling it with apt-build. That way you don't make a mess with the packaging system.
[02:16] <zeroday> Horscht: dunno sorry amarok's cover manager did everything for me
[02:16] <nanotalk> hi.. is there java ee package for ubuntu ?
[02:16] <kadakas> Is it a bug or a feature that when I copy or cut some text from a window and close that window - all the text copied is lost?
[02:16] <Horscht> amaroks cover manager got the covers for me as well.
[02:16] <skoenman> can anybody please tell me if fetchmail says terminated with signal 15 ...what can that be????
[02:16] <Horscht> but it didn't embed them into the tag
[02:16] <zeroday> i have a strange problem when suddenly my comp will freeze and the Num Lock, Caps Lock and Acroll Lock keys will flash
[02:16] <jovan> first time user here, need help with ubuntu
[02:16] <zeroday> !ask | jovan
[02:17] <ubotu> jovan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:17] <zeroday> Horscht: im aout of ideas sorry
[02:17] <Pici> zeroday: I mean like a keyboard-video-mouse switcher thingy.  Mine invokes itself when I press scroll-lock twice and then it flashes all my indicator lights.
[02:17] <jovan> okey, as the !ask command, or just ask?
[02:17] <zeroday> Pici: nope
[02:17] <soundray> kadakas: oh, I find that so annoying. Previously I used klipper in KDE and that made the CopyPaste-mess easier to deal with. I don't know if gnome has something like it.
[02:17] <Pici> zeroday: k, just had to ask
[02:17] <|ericsson|> !backuppc
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backuppc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <adrian15> Hello. As long as Ubuntu 7.04 has propietary drives can I legally clone disks and give them as a present to my friends? Thank you.
[02:17] <Pici> !backup | |ericsson|
[02:17] <ubotu> |ericsson|: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:17] <skoenman> can anybody please tell me if fetchmail says terminated with signal 15 ...what can that be????
[02:18] <zeroday> Pici: np at least u tried thanks anyway
[02:18] <zeroday> jovan: just ask
[02:18] <ikonia_> skoenman it shouldn't
[02:18] <kadakas> soundray: im hoping glipper will atleast make the problem smaller
[02:18] <skoenman> hmm yeah i know
[02:18] <skoenman> but it does
[02:18] <ItalicSquirrel> okay so how do i go about doing this with apt-build?  like i said, it's been a while since i played with linux..  like 4 years..
[02:18] <Pici> adrian15: None of the restricted drivers are on the dvds, so yes, you can make copies of the install discs
[02:19] <ikonia_> ItalicSquirrel there are some great docs on the ubuntu wiki, that should explain it
[02:19] <jovan> well, just installed ubuntu, and the "smoke test" failed, I think it could be graphic-related, cause the live/install didn't start at first untill I change from VGA to one of the 32 bit graphic modes
[02:19] <ItalicSquirrel> alright
[02:19] <soundray> kadakas: I didn't know about that one. Installing it now...
[02:19] <zeroday> jovan: gfx card pls?
[02:19] <jovan> x800
[02:19] <jovan> PCI-E
[02:19] <adrian15> Pici: Restricted drivers are only on the repositories ?
[02:19] <zeroday> jovan: are you runing 64bitversion and is that an ati?
[02:19] <jovan> zeroday: yes and yes
[02:20] <bimberi> unison libcomp
[02:20] <bimberi> oops :)
[02:20] <zeroday> jovan: since youre a linux starter you should know that 64bit support is completely and utterly dreadful
[02:20] <zeroday> jovan: as you are a newb i recommend you use the 32bit version
[02:21] <adrian15> Pici: Ok. Thank you. Must go.
[02:21] <jovan> zeroday: ahh, okay
[02:21] <zeroday> jovan: ohh and ati dosnt support 64 bit
[02:21] <jovan> I'll, download and install that then
[02:21] <zeroday> jovan: have fun
[02:21] <crdlb> zeroday: really?
[02:21] <kadakas> How can i eliminate that gray background behind tray icons that are emulated with wine? uTorrent for example
[02:21] <sanityx> Since banshee is written in .Net/Mono couldn't it run on winders as well?
[02:21] <jovan> zeroday: thanks for the directions :)
[02:21] <oriez> how do i install ubuntu on a windows laptop with one HHD
[02:22] <crdlb> jovan: note that you should get enough 3d with the included open source driver for beryl on that card
[02:22] <zeroday> crdlb: i havnt heard of someone "sucessfully" getting ati propertrity drivers to work
[02:22] <crdlb> the x800 is supposed to be supported, meaning you won't need ati's crappy proprietary drivers
[02:22] <jovan> crdlb: say what?
[02:22] <soundray> zeroday: ati does support 64 bit. And your statement about 64bit support is not accurate, either.
[02:22] <zeroday> !install
[02:22] <zeroday> !install | oriez
[02:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:22] <ubotu> oriez: please see above
[02:23] <zeroday> soundray: my bad then
[02:23] <crdlb> jovan: feisty has open source 3d support for your card, which means it should work out of the box
[02:23] <zeroday> crdlb: have you ever used those drivers?
[02:23] <crdlb> but it won't be as fast as the proprietary driver, however it would run beryl better
[02:23] <crdlb> zeroday: on an x800 no
[02:23] <jovan> crdlb: feisty? is it a food?
[02:23] <crdlb> !feisty
[02:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[02:24] <crdlb> but I've heard they usually work well on the x800
[02:24] <itguru> I got a "small" task set to me. I need to build a print server, that accepts prints, but doesn't print them out until an admin authorises it. Any ideas?
[02:24] <zeroday> crdlb: yeah they do
[02:24] <oriez> is it possible to that
[02:24] <TalarAleya> hello ;-)
[02:24] <soundray> zeroday: I personally would choose 64bit anytime for the performance benefit. Granted, firefox plugins require a few extra steps.
[02:24] <zeroday> !install | oriez
[02:24] <ubotu> oriez: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:25] <zeroday> soundray: to an absolute starter do u think they should just start out on 32 bit
[02:25] <TalarAleya> I've got a little problem with installing jre. Can anyone help me, please?
[02:25] <zeroday> or 64 bit
[02:25] <crdlb> I agree, there are far fewer problems on 32bit
[02:26] <zeroday> crdlb: thanks
[02:26] <crdlb> it's just not worth it yet
[02:26] <soundray> zeroday: 32bit, unless they have a particular reason to go for 64.
[02:26] <zeroday> soundray: hopefully 64bit support will get better
[02:26] <jovan> crdlb: well I was able to play around in ubuntu from the LIVE cd in 1024 x 7?? x 32 on my card... is there a way I can make the OS boot in 32 bit colormode?
[02:27] <zeroday> i have a strange problem when suddenly my comp will freeze and the Num Lock, Caps Lock and Acroll Lock keys will flash
[02:27] <ikonia_> zeroday memcheck cd for a few hours
[02:27] <soundray> zeroday: that's my point. 64bit support is great, unless you require the proprietary stuff.
[02:27] <zeroday> jovan: you have the same prob i have i cant get above 1024*768
[02:28] <jhaig> zeroday: Sounds like a hardware problem.
[02:28] <zeroday> ikonia_: its installed
[02:28] <rualdo> thanks
[02:28] <kadakas> Can anyone reccoment a good PIM (Calendar+Todomanager (+e-mail)) ?
[02:28] <zeroday> jhaig: yeah thats what i thought so to
[02:28] <ikonia_> zeroday get it running !! ;)
[02:28] <rualdo> thanks
[02:28] <jovan> zeroday: my problem seems more like I cant get below 16bit colordepth
[02:28] <zeroday> kadakas: evolution rules
[02:28] <cul8r> I have a red light on my motherboard that won't turn off, please help..
[02:28] <kadakas> zeroday: Does it sync with Google calendar ?
[02:29] <n2diy> kadakas: I just started playing with it, but take a look at Sunbird.
[02:29] <flegion> hey all. Can someone help walk me through WPA on my laptop?
[02:29] <zeroday> jovan: install linux then use the envy script to get your drivers
[02:29] <crdlb> zeroday: no
[02:29] <ikonia_> cul8r this isn't hardware support. But unplug it and it will go away
[02:29] <zeroday> kadakas: not sure sunbird sounds good
[02:29] <crdlb> jovan: if you want the proprietary driver use the restricted manager
[02:29] <zeroday> jhaig: but i havnt added any new hard ware lately
[02:29] <kadakas> zeroday: But does Sunbird have a todolist ?
[02:30] <zeroday> kadakas: again not sure
[02:30] <kadakas> ...with configurable todo priority levels/names
[02:30] <cul8r> thanks I knew you guys could help
[02:30] <kadakas> I'd like that PIM to have memos and a journal aswell
[02:30] <flegion> hi guys. I'm trying to get WPA to work on my wifi. Could someone please help walk me through it?
[02:30] <soundray> cul8r: don't worry about it. It indicates that it's on standby, ready to be turned on with the soft power button.
[02:30] <zeroday> kadakas: i used it about a year ago and impressed me best thing is to go try it out
[02:31] <zeroday> i have a strange problem when suddenly my comp will freeze and the Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock keys will flash continuosly my computer is still frozen and i have to do a hard rebbot
[02:31] <vader1102> hello folks one quick question then i will sit on the side. I have an HP DV9000 series running Vista and I want to dual boot with Ubuntu, problem is the last time I tried the partitioner did not see my windows partition, any ideas/help would be great
[02:32] <soundray> zeroday: have you checked the memory? Could also be overheating or a hairline crack on the motherboard.
[02:32] <ikonia_> vader1102 try the most current version of ubuntu
[02:32] <zeroday> soundray: was afraid of that had my box open lately so that could be it
[02:32] <vader1102> ikonia, I forgot to mention this is also amd 64x2
[02:33] <soundray> zeroday: did you take the CPU cooler off?
[02:33] <zeroday> soundray: no only played around with hard drives
[02:33] <flegion> hi guys. I'm trying to get WPA to work on my wifi. Could someone please help walk me through it?
[02:33] <cul8r> actualy I have a problem with vnc (like everyone) vhat version is working. I read the forums and some say to use vnc4server and some not. any one have it working on fiesty?
[02:34] <gizmo> join #mgalug
[02:34] <soundray> cul8r: it doesn't matter so much, as long as your server and client support the same protocol (either 3 or 4).
[02:35] <GrEgMaYo> ragazzi se provo a compilare un programma in c++ su linux...mi dice che non trova -ltdsc++ ... per compilare uso la stringa 'gcc nomefile.cpp -o eseguibile -ltdcs++
[02:35] <reubs> I have a problem with an ssh server daemon. I think it is a router/network issue is there some one that can point me in the right direction to find out how to deal with it?
[02:35] <soundray> cul8r: if you can install a version 4 client on the, erm, client, vnc4server would be my first choice for the server.
[02:35] <flegion> Does anyone know how to set up WPA on wifi? I can't use the network-manager.
[02:36] <cul8r> soundray: thx i am using the latest on realvnc and I just get a grey screen, any ideas?
[02:36] <soundray> reubs: describe the signs and symptoms please
[02:36] <kairu0> reubs, please elaborate
[02:37] <soundray> cul8r: the latest one on realvnc supports only protocol v3, if I remember correctly.
[02:37] <wojtano> i have 5.1 speakers set but it works at 2.1 (sound blaster live! 24) plz help me
[02:38] <reubs> soundray: well, i have turned off UseDNS in ssh, but when i try and ssh into my ubuntu machine from my mac ( from my own network ) i have to wait about a minute and a half before i get a password prompt.
[02:38] <wojtano>  i have 5.1 speakers set but it works at 2.1 (sound blaster live! 24) plz help me
[02:38] <cul8r> soundray: could that be causing the grey screen
[02:38] <flegion> hi folks. i could really use a hand with setting up WPA on my laptop. Anyone here good withthat?
[02:38] <soundray> cul8r: yes
[02:38] <cul8r> version mismatch?
[02:38] <erUSUL> !repeat > wojtano
[02:38] <erUSUL> !sound > wojtano
[02:39] <soundray> reubs: you should add an /etc/hosts entry on ubuntu for your mac.
[02:39] <reubs> pings come back instantly, it just seem to time out for a long time, is it ipv6 related? or can my router (dlink) be the problem
[02:40] <ItalicSquirrel> soundray, using apt-build, what other packages should i rebuild besides alsa-base?
[02:40] <kairu0> reubs, is your router forwarding port 22?
[02:40] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: alsa-utils... but I think it will create them both, anyway.
[02:40] <ItalicSquirrel> okay thanks
[02:41] <kuba> how to modify $PATH variable ??
[02:41] <reubs> soundray:i have done that before, but i have done a new install so i will try again, who knows, it might work. the router internaly shouldn't do anything, i think i should only have to set up rules re: incoming traffic from the internet
[02:41] <soundray> kuba: for one user or system-wide?
[02:42] <kuba> soundray: dunno:0
[02:42] <kuba> :)
[02:42] <kuba> soundray: one user and system-wide also...:)
[02:42] <soundray> reubs: pretty certain it will work. Agree about the router.
[02:43] <zeroday> For some reason if i restart my xserver all i get is a blue background, an empty top panel and my avant window navigator at the bottom. Any ideas?
[02:43] <soundray> kuba: edit /etc/environment
[02:43] <USMarine> zeroday blue screen of death?
[02:43] <soundray> kuba: this will sort it out for all users at their next login.
[02:43] <zeroday> USMarine: no lol
[02:44] <zeroday> USMarine: just a blue background (not my normal background0
[02:45] <reubs> soundray: kairu0: hasn't seemed to make any difference
[02:46] <ItalicSquirrel> soundray, rebuilding didn't give me any luck either..  it's just not seeing the card at all now.. *shrug*
[02:46] <stefg> zeroday: what happens if you 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart' ?
[02:46] <soundray> reubs: Just booting my own mac to try
[02:47] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: try asking again later. In the (European) evening hours, we get a few sound experts logging on.
[02:47] <soundray> ItalicSquirrel: (I'm not one -- my nick refers to a time when I was working with ultrasound).
[02:48] <ItalicSquirrel> hey no worries..  it's a frustrating thing, this damn USB sound card...  i wouldn't be using it if i had more PCI slots
[02:48] <ItalicSquirrel> i've been struggling with it for a few days, and thought i could fix it on my own until i broke it even worse :)
[02:49] <reubs> soundray: I think it might have to do with my router combined with ubuntu, it's a dlink, i can ssh into the mac instantly. but trying to get into the ubuntu box, just takes a long time :( and unfortunatly it's my main box
[02:49] <ItalicSquirrel> like i said earlier.. i was successful getting MythTV and a fairly new HDTV card to work (although MythTV seems to break my desktop... the top panel won't show on boot.. can't figure that out.. i have to uninstall myth to get that working..)
[02:49] <ItalicSquirrel> but that's something i'll work on later
[02:49] <ItalicSquirrel> one thing at a time..
[02:49] <soundray> reubs: strange, I get no delay at all even without a hosts entry. Consider running ssh with debugging info.
[02:50] <soundray> reubs: ssh -v
[02:50] <MedivhX_> hello
[02:50] <ikonia_> hello
[02:50] <MedivhX_> can anyone explain me
[02:50] <ikonia_> you have to ask your question to get an explination
[02:50] <reubs> soundray: oh i didn't even know there was one, i will look it up, ah thanks I don't even have to look it up, you are the man
[02:50] <MedivhX_> free software philosophy
[02:50] <q-t> !build
[02:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:50] <ikonia_> MedivhX_ try joining #gnu - this channel is for ubuntu support queries
[02:51] <MedivhX_> tnx ikonia
[02:51] <q-t> !packages
[02:51] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[02:51] <soundray> MedivhX_: also checkout http://gnu.org/philosophy
[02:52] <ItalicSquirrel> soundray i really appreciate your help.  I'm sure you'll see me back here from time to time.  i'd love to get a decent grasp on linux.
[02:52] <MedivhX_> tny
[02:52] <ikonia_> soundray great link
[02:52] <MedivhX_> tnx*
[02:52] <ItalicSquirrel> i'd really like for it to be where the Mac OS is...  transparent to the user, but retaining the power...  i'm actually on my mac right now (my PC is the linux guinea pig)
[02:53] <ItalicSquirrel> anyway.. have a great day.. thanks again
[02:53] <Aendy> hello people
[02:53] <Aendy> I need help
[02:53] <soundray> ikonia_: I particularly like http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motivation.html -- startling insight
[02:54] <Aendy> with ubuntu
[02:54] <Frogzoo> !helpme | Aendy
[02:54] <ubotu> Aendy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:54] <soundray> Aendy: describe your problem, on one line please.
[02:54] <Aendy> I instaled fresh copz of windows ip
[02:54] <Aendy> xp
[02:54] <soundray> Aendy: on ONE line please
[02:54] <Frogzoo> !grub | Aendy
[02:54] <ubotu> Aendy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:54] <Aendy> yes I did that
[02:55] <fiXXXerMet> I am having problems with mod_auth_mysql.  Every day, I get "Internal Server Error, and the logs show:  "[error]  Query call failed: MySQL server has gone away (2006)".  As soon as I restart apache2, the problem goes away.
[02:55] <reubs> soundray: i have the error. :D which means i'm alot closer to solving it
[02:55] <Aendy> but now when I choose ubuntu I get massage
[02:55] <md5mm> hello i need help php on ubuntu
[02:55] <fiXXXerMet> The problem lies within the mysql auth modules.  How can I fix this?
[02:55] <ikonia_> fiXXXerMet apache can't maintain a link to mysql by the looks of it
[02:55] <soundray> Aendy: no pasting here please
[02:55] <md5mm> it is not diffrent other systems but i need very seriusly help
[02:55] <reubs> soundray:
[02:55] <Aendy> /bin/sh >cant access ttz, job control turned off
[02:56] <q-t> !samba
[02:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:56] <jovan> lol
[02:56] <ikonia_> md5mm you need serious help ?
[02:56] <fiXXXerMet> ikonia_: When I go to the site in question, I am prompted for the SSL cert, and for my user:pass.  As soon as I type it in and hit "OK", I get the error.
[02:56] <soundray> !msgthebot > q-t
[02:56] <xxtreme> can someone help me setup fetchmail with a Gmail account?
[02:57] <ikonia_> fiXXXerMet as I said, looks like the code is not maintaining a session, or mysql is actually "stopping" in mid session
[02:57] <Aendy> so what should I do
[02:57] <fiXXXerMet> ikonia_: How can I look more into it/get it fixed?
[02:57] <soundray> Aendy: before that message, there should be a couple of other lines and an empty line. What's in the line *before* the empty one?
[02:57] <jovan> is there an MSN client in ubuntu?
[02:57] <ikonia_> fiXXXerMet apache logs, apache error logs, apache ssl logs, mysql logs, enable --log option for mysql view transactions, check the syslog for mysql startup/shutdown ?
[02:57] <Aendy> the line before is
[02:57] <ikonia_> jovan amsn or gaim perhaps
[02:57] <Pici> jovan: gaim or amsn
[02:58] <jovan> thanx
[02:58] <CheshireViking> jovan, or kopete
[02:58] <jovan> any of those preinstalled in ubuntu?
[02:58] <reubs> soundray: sorry just getting used to the ubuntu way of copying between consoles :) it was: An invalid realm for numeric host was supplied /n malform parm [sic]  /n cannot determine relm for numeric host address /n validation errer
[02:58] <Aendy> buszbox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3--2ubuntu3)Built-in shell (ash)
[02:59] <Aendy> busybox
[02:59] <menisk> Is there a way to connect Feisty to a windows Workgroup, I know you can do printing through samba but not sure about file sharing.
[02:59] <soundray> Aendy: even further back, before the empty line
[02:59] <CheshireViking> jovan, if you use a webcam, then amsn or kopete, Gaim didn't have a webcam capeabilities last time I looked, I think gaim is preinstalled, but both of the others are available through synaptic
[02:59] <crdlb> menisk: yes that's samba's primary purpose
[03:00] <Aendy> I get slider as if it were booting ubuntu
[03:00] <menisk> crdlb: Awesome, thank you.
[03:00] <soundray> menisk: Places-Connect to server
[03:00] <Aendy> no other lines are there
[03:00] <boguh> how can i prevent ubuntu from starting my wifi device on startup?
[03:00] <soundray> menisk: remember, samba is for making ubuntu resources accessible to machines on the Windows network, not the other way round.
[03:01] <ikonia_> menisk also be aware that vista has issues with samba
[03:01] <baboskaa> will kernel 2.6.21 be available in the repo soon?
[03:01] <Pici> baboskaa: probably not.
[03:01] <soundray> baboskaa: no
[03:01] <ikonia_> soundray are you sure, its also used to connect to windows shares as a primary service
[03:01] <baboskaa> why?
[03:01] <ikonia_> baboskaa why do you need it
[03:01] <Kenzumi> re
[03:01] <ikonia_> because it has a bigger number ?
[03:01] <flegion> hey guys. I need help setting up WPA on my wireless. Could someone please talk me through it? The network manager doesn't work with my card.
[03:02] <soundray> ikonia_: not samba.
[03:02] <baboskaa> upgrade of Asus laptop ACPI
[03:02] <ikonia_> soundray really ? I'm all ears
[03:02] <ikonia_> unless your differentating samba/ciffs
[03:02] <ikonia_> baboskaa are you sure thats in .21
[03:03] <soundray> ikonia_: samba is purely a server. Yes, there is smbclient and the smbfs filesystem, but none of these are required to run a server. Neither is samba required to use smbclient or smbfs or cifs.
[03:03] <variant> anyone else having issues with feisty and session management?
[03:03] <baboskaa> yeah i think so. 2.6.20 use an old version of acpi4asus, and 2.6.21 is using a newer i think
[03:03] <ikonia_> soundray ahhh ok, your referencing the server "product" rather than samba as a package
[03:03] <void^> baboskaa: find an unofficial package, compile yourself or wait for the next release. official backports of new kernel versions are exceedingly unlikely.
[03:04] <Aendy> is it possible to copy with live cd files from linux partition files that are user protected
[03:04] <baboskaa> what is a backport?
[03:04] <flegion> hey guys. I need help setting up WPA on my wireless. Could someone please talk me through it? The network manager doesn't work with my card.
[03:04] <Aendy> I have passwords how can I acess those files_
[03:04] <ikonia_> Aendy if you are root - yes
[03:04] <variant> Aendy: yes, as in the live cd you can become root
[03:04] <soundray> ikonia_: I'm using smb shares on my main system. Yet it doesn't even have the samba package installed.
[03:04] <g0ow> su -
[03:04] <Aendy> please how
[03:04] <Aendy> I have live cd in now
[03:04] <ikonia_> soundray using samba shares "on" your machine or "from" your machine
[03:04] <variant> Aendy: if the files are individually password protected then no, it wont matter
[03:04] <soundray> g0ow: no, not on ubuntu
[03:04] <reubs> soundray: ? is the name i stick in the hosts file, next to the ip important? or can it be anything, i.e. does it have to be exactly the same as the comp name/ network name of the mac?
[03:04] <jovan> is there a iso-burning application bundled with ubuntu?
[03:04] <Aendy> and I see partition that I want to copz files from but I don-t have permision to copz them
[03:04] <variant> jovan: yes
[03:04] <Aendy> copy them
[03:05] <jrib> jovan: right click > burn to disk
[03:05] <crdlb> jovan: just right click on it
[03:05] <soundray> ikonia_: from
[03:05] <variant> Aendy: press alt ft and run gksudo nautilus. you will then have permission
[03:05] <g0ow> variant: thanks for the help yesterday, worked like a charm ;] 
[03:05] <jovan> okay, thanx
[03:05] <variant> g0ow: what help was that? i don't remember
[03:05] <flegion> hey guys. I need help setting up WPA on my wireless. Could someone please talk me through it? The network manager doesn't work with my card.
[03:05] <variant> g0ow: oh yeah
[03:05] <variant> g0ow: np :)
[03:05] <jovan> I'll probably be back in a little while
[03:05] <ikonia_> soundray thats interesting, how are you sharing files without the smb daemon ?
[03:05] <soundray> reubs: it doesn't matter
[03:05] <jovan> bye for now
[03:05] <Aendy> ok
[03:05] <Aendy> thanks
[03:05] <Aendy> I-ll try
[03:06] <soundray> ikonia_: oh dear, I still haven't made myself clear.
[03:06] <ikonia_> soundray apologies, I'm probably not reading it correct
[03:06] <reubs> soundray: just what i thougt. any idea what the 'Cannot determine realm for numeric host address' would relate to ?
[03:06] <g0ow> variant: i tried to install bery and when i restart xserver it errors, i configure it, and now when i use feisty, it's like the graphics card isnt config'd like in a safe mode because things are alot bigger, and i can't enable desktop effects...know how to solve this?
[03:07] <variant> g0ow: thats not what i helped you with yesterday is it?
[03:07] <g0ow> nope
[03:07] <clordi> i need driver for raid controllers Intel sata srcs16, samebody unknow link download this ?
[03:07] <XCute4God> there are any dv6000 series hp laptop user here?
[03:07] <uadrian> is it possible to powerdown a minipci device from ubuntu?
[03:07] <g0ow> you helped me with dapper->feisty installing over
[03:07] <soundray> ikonia_: I have a file server on the LAN (Freecom FSG-3, nice one btw). It shares its data through smb/cifs by virtue of having samba installed. My main workstation uses those shares, but doesn't itself have samba.
[03:07] <variant> g0ow: don't ask me specifically then please.. as thats a little insulting to the ohter people in the channel
[03:08] <g0ow> okay
[03:08] <hipitihop> after restarting a completing feisty upgrade via 'sudo aptitude upgrade' , the machine is left with a gnome session where font is not readable and it also is running the earlier kernel 2.17.x can someone help me get things going ?
[03:08] <soundray> reubs: no. Try throwing it at a web search engine?
[03:08] <g0ow> i tried to install bery and when i restart xserver it errors, i configure it, and now when i use feisty, it's like the graphics card isnt config'd like in a safe mode because things are alot bigger, and i can't enable desktop effects..anyone know how to solve this?
[03:08] <letharion> I try to mount a iso file, and mount complains about the file not being in fstab. Do I really need to add every image file I wish to open to fstab first? And if it's really so, is there a program that will automate the process?
[03:09] <user-land> Hi, is it easy to fix an MBR with Ubuntu ?
[03:09] <variant> letharion: do it as root
[03:09] <jrib> letharion: what command are you using?
[03:09] <letharion> variant: I am root
[03:09] <uadrian> letharion, gisomount or something
[03:09] <ikonia_> soundray ahhh I see what your saying
[03:09] <DeadCowBoy> ok people I have an issue that's been ongoing for way too long now... I really need to get this working before I go crazy and buy a mac... Broadcom wireless BCM4318, I tried every forums I could find... tried fwcutter and ndiswrapper in many ways... the result changes a little bit but always ends up the same : I see the networks, it tries to connect but always returns no errors and ends up disconnected
[03:09] <variant> letharion: mount -o loop /path/to/iso /location/of/mountpoint
[03:09] <g0ow> user: don't you need the windows XP recovery to fix MBR?
[03:09] <letharion> jrib: mount -o loop /home/xxx/yyy.iso somefolder
[03:10] <ikonia_> soundray its just wording. I was refering to "samba" as a gnu product, eg: smbmount is part of the samba package, but ubuntu rightly breaks it down into components such as samba-server samba-client etc etc.
[03:10] <soundray> hipitihop: this is the reason why update-manager is recommended for upgrades... But maybe you can fix it with a combination of 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and 'apt-get -f install' and 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[03:10] <boguh> what does "quiet" mean in the grub config file as an argument for the kernel?
[03:10] <reubs> soundray: would the shh channel throw me out for asking such a noob question if i went in and asked it ? :)
[03:10] <letharion> variant: Y, exactly what I'm doing..... *trying again*
[03:10] <g0ow> bbl, school time :-)
[03:10] <variant> boguh: won't show the menu
[03:10] <uadrian> letharion, gmount-iso
[03:10] <void^> boguh: hides kernel output
[03:10] <variant> boguh: no.. thats not what it means actualy
[03:10] <sanityx> Has anybody been able to get their ipod working under feisty
[03:10] <variant> boguh: see void^'s msg there
[03:10] <Pici> !ipod  sanityx
[03:10] <soundray> reubs: don't know, never been there. Read the topic, spend some time lurking, and then see if you want to take the risk ;)
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipod  sanityx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <variant> sanityx: yes
[03:10] <Pici> !ipod
[03:10] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:10] <Aendy> variant I preset alt ft
[03:11] <sanityx> variant, how
[03:11] <Aendy> I run gksudo from console
[03:11] <variant> Aendy: gksudo nautilus
[03:11] <Aendy> end started nautilus but
[03:11] <letharion> Bah, now it worked. Must have misspelled something the first time. Thx for the help all
[03:11] <shinygerbil> how well are Creative Zens supported? Is it a simple matter of mounting the filesystem?
[03:11] <variant> Aendy: not just gksudo
[03:11] <v21> hmm i have little question :) i have nvidia ge force 6600 graphic card and sony trinitron display my resolution screen is 1152x864 BUT i have problem with resolution its only 50hz
[03:11] <boguh> void^ so without quiet i just have a blank screen?
[03:11] <Aendy> i see now onlz contence of live cd
[03:11] <variant> Aendy: "gksudo nautilus"
[03:11] <hipitihop> soundray, yes I first tried that, but the gnome session froze midway...all I knew how to do is login remote via ssh and shutdown the box. then completed via the command line
[03:11] <Aendy> how can I access partition where the files are stored_
[03:11] <variant> Aendy: and you will have to mount the drive
[03:11] <variant> ho hum
[03:11] <variant> Aendy: sorry, i need to go do something else
[03:11] <soundray> hipitihop: so, what have you done on the command line before?
[03:12] <variant> !mount | Aendy
[03:12] <ubotu> Aendy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:12] <Aendy> sorrz
[03:12] <jason_> does anyone know the command to mirror a website for offline browsing.  i have tried many different  switches for wget but it always leaves stuff behind
[03:12] <Aendy> thanks for help
[03:12] <hipitihop> soundry, so should I try what you said ?
[03:12] <variant> jason_: wget -m http://et c
[03:12] <void^> boguh: ? without quiet you get all those useful kernel messages during boot. with quiet, you don't see them (so if there's a problem you won't know what's wrong).
[03:12] <variant> jason_: wget -m http://etc
[03:12] <soundray> hipitihop: yes... how are you logged in now? ssh? Recovery mode?
[03:12] <sanityx> variant, did you have to do anything to get it working
[03:12] <variant> jason_: there are some other spidering options to use as well as recursive downloads
[03:12] <jason_> variant:  it doesn't get the css files
[03:13] <doddo> Hi i get this error message whilst trying to make an iso with mkisofs: "mkisofs: Permission denied. Unable to open disc image file
[03:13] <doddo> "
[03:13] <hipitihop> soundray, ubunutu feisty on another box at home
[03:13] <soundray> jason_: maybe you need wwwoffle
[03:13] <reubs> soundray: thanks for all of you help. Please accept my thanks :D
[03:13] <doddo> does anyone know what might be wrong?
[03:13] <variant> jason_: there is some option to download all files needed to display the site correctlly
[03:13] <soundray> reubs: glad I could assist
[03:13] <hipitihop> soundray, if you mean am I logged into the broken box, yes I can via ssh if you like
[03:13] <jason_> variant:  yeah. i have been trying all morning.  i am leaving for a trip and want to bring a bunch of documentation with me.  i can't seem to get it all
[03:14] <jovan> like herpes on your sour lips, I'm back
[03:14] <variant> jason_: ah, it's wget -m -p sitename
[03:14] <sanityx> Can somebody help me get my ipod working?
[03:14] <sanityx> I have banshee installe
[03:14] <sanityx> installed*
[03:14] <variant> jovan: this is a family friendly channel..
[03:15] <soundray> hipitihop: that would be a good way to run the three commands above. Try them in that order. Use apt-get -f install a few times until the output doesn't change any more.
[03:15] <sanityx> I can mount it manually, but banshee still won't recognize it.
[03:15] <hipitihop> soundray, trying now
[03:15] <uadrian> is it possible to powerdown a minipci device from ubuntu?
[03:15] <jovan> variant: thats why I put in the "lips" part
[03:15] <DShepherd> I mount my filesystem and chrooted it. I am having problems running a gui app.. It says..GtkWarning: could not open display
[03:15] <DShepherd>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning). How can i get this app to run?
[03:15] <user-land> Can i use the Ubuntu installer just to write an MBR ?
[03:15] <DShepherd> I mounted*
[03:15] <soundray> hipitihop: the upgrade process may disconnect you if you're unlucky. Will you still be able to access it then?
[03:16] <jason_> variant:  i am trying wget -m -l 1000 -p http://     but it will not recursively get the whole site
[03:16] <void^> DShepherd: set $DISPLAY, eg 'export DISPLAY=:0'
[03:16] <soundray> user-land: no, use the recovering-grub instructions for that. Private message:
[03:16] <soundray> !grub > user-land
[03:17] <hipitihop> soundray, not sure, is there a way for me to run  it so that if the session is disconnected, when I ssh back in I resume/reconnect to the same ?
[03:17] <Demetrious> !grub > demetrious
[03:18] <soundray> hipitihop: yes, you can run it in a screen. Just enter 'screen', run your command inside of that. When you're disconnected, reconnect and type 'screen -R -D'
[03:18] <variant> jason_: try without the -l.. as that is extreemly exsessive
[03:18] <Demetrious> /ctcp ubotu version
[03:18] <user-land> thank you, soundray. i have 3 disks, do i need to write the MBR to all 3 ?
[03:18] <soundray> user-land: no, only to the one that your BIOS tries to boot from.
[03:18] <Kubuntu> How do I make beryl look like on youtube?
[03:18] <jijutm> guys.. I am having tough time configuring LDAP on edgy.. and finally made it.. but the sshd is asking password twice..
[03:18] <user-land> thanks soundray.
[03:18] <variant> Kubuntu: thats like taking a photo of brad pit to the hair dressers and saying "make me look like this"
[03:19] <jonah> hi guys having a problem with moving files from OS to OS. windows and ubuntu have treeline but i can't get it running on mac osx, but i need the database to work on things for clients on my macbook, is there any app i've overlooked that will work on all three and a way to get it out of treeline into this? please someone help
[03:19] <jijutm> forcing sftp folder connections to hang...
[03:19] <jason_> variant:  wget -m -p   gets me only one level deep.     i guess i will be watch movies on the plane
[03:19] <jason_> thanks for your help
[03:19] <variant> jason_: the default level is 5
[03:19] <DShepherd> void i did export DISPLAY =:0. still doesnt work. I am trying to run aptoncd
[03:19] <Kubuntu> I want the squere thing
[03:19] <variant> jason_: show me the exact command
[03:19] <variant> jason_: that you use
[03:20] <soundray> variant: Hairdresser: "It would be easier to make Brad Pitt look like you" ;)
[03:20] <Kubuntu> So that the desktops are around the box.
[03:20] <jijutm> hi some one with exposure to LDAP on ubunty
[03:20] <variant> soundray: LOL
[03:20] <jason_> variant: wget -m -p  http://prototype-window.xilinus.com/
[03:20] <jijutm> hi some one with exposure to LDAP on ubuntu
[03:20] <DShepherd> DShepherd: void^ ^
[03:20] <stefg> !beryl | Kubuntu
[03:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:20] <Kubuntu> I have beryl
[03:20] <void^> DShepherd: well, try with something simple like xterm. make sure proc and dev are mounted in the chroot.
[03:21] <letharion> How do I get mp3 support?
[03:21] <variant> jason_: if the site is generated by server side scripts then you cannot do what you are trying to do afaik
[03:21] <soundray> !mp3 > letharion, please read ubotu's private messages
[03:21] <variant> jason_: ah, nm thats not true...
[03:21] <soundray> !faq > letharion
[03:21] <stefg> Kubuntu: nice... so put your question to #ubuntu-effects /after/ you've read through the documentation
[03:21] <variant> jason_: well, in part it is true
[03:21] <letharion> soundray: ty
[03:22] <soundray> letharion: yw :)
[03:22] <jason_> variant:  there is a real link to a folder on the first page to documenation  i figured it would at least follow that link
[03:22] <Kubuntu> I know it exsists, I've seen it on youtube
[03:23] <variant> jason_: wget that link specifically then
[03:23] <variant> jason_: any javascript links won't be followed
[03:23] <variant> jason_: and htat site uses javascript exclusively
[03:23] <jonah> hi guys is there something like wine that will let you run mac applications on linux - just an app or program without having to run the whole osx under vmware or whatever?
[03:23] <Aendy> how can I link linux partition with usage of live cd_
[03:23] <jason_> variant: that is not a javascript link
[03:23] <variant> jason_: you don't understand
[03:24] <soundray> jonah: there is a vm-like thing called pearpc for PPC programs
[03:24] <variant> jason_: i disable javascript by default on all pages i visit. when i browse to that site there is virtually nothing displayed (just an image or two) UNTIL i enable javascript
[03:24] <variant> jason_: thats why it's not getting the link
[03:24] <variant> jason_: get the link location and wget that instead of the whole site
[03:24] <soundray> jonah: for Intel-Mac software, you have to check whether you can get the source code. If source is available, it can probably be ported to ubuntu.
[03:25] <Kubuntu> Thanks a lot for your help
[03:25] <Kubuntu> bye
[03:25] <soundray> jonah: commercial Mac-Intel software - no hope.
[03:25] <jason_> variant:  my bad.  you are right.  the tabs are created with javascript.
[03:25] <mjr> jonah, no, not really. GNUstep can be useful in porting/compiling Mac apps for GNU/Linux, but nothing that would run them as is.
[03:25] <soundray> sorry, s/commercial/proprietary/
[03:25] <variant> jason_: in firefox disable javascript and browse to that site, thats what wget "sees"
[03:26] <jonah> soundray, i just figured with the wine movement there might of been a "mine" movement by now
[03:26] <hipitihop> soundray, ok, 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' returned "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 253 not upgraded."
[03:26] <jovan> yaaaay! the LIVE 32bit-cpu cd is working
[03:26] <jonah> that's a shame, someone should really start a "mine" project that uses mac apis or whatever and does what wine does really
[03:26] <aureonx> hello everyone
[03:26] <mjr> (actually, gnustep would probably make a fine foundation for a mac application loader/runner)
[03:26] <jonah> but for mac on linux
[03:26] <jason_> variant:   i made some bad assumption because when i rolled over the link it displayed its correct path in the statusbar.   i just searched the source.  it is all javascript (for no reason i might add)
[03:27] <jonah> does anyone know of something better than treeline that will work on mac, windows and ubuntu??
[03:27] <soundray> hipitihop: okay, looks like you should move on to installing ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <variant> jason_: yeah it's ok. i had the same issues once before
[03:27] <sanityx> anybody know how to get an ipod working with feisty?
[03:27] <soundray> jonah: wine is a bad patch on an ill-posed problem in my view.
[03:27] <variant> jason_: you can right click/save as each page :/
[03:28] <soundray> jonah: what's treeline?
[03:28] <variant> jason_: there may be a webspider with javascript support too but i don't se eit happening
[03:28] <hipitihop> soundray, 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' gives: The following packages have unmet dependencies: openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[03:28] <magnetron> sanityx: try Gtkpod, or rhytmbox, or amarok
[03:28] <jason_> variant:  no worries  i have a stack of movies i will just watch movies on the plane and stuff.  though i would do some extra work while awhile.  thanks for you help.  huge brian fart this morning.
[03:29] <jonah> soundray, wine is awesome, for professionals that need one or two windows apps for their business, such as webdesign (like me) with flash/dreamweaver, it means we can not use windows and just use a couple things for work at home
[03:29] <cry0> Is there any way to delete the system files on my other partition of my hard drive?  It's running a failed upgrade of ubuntu, and I wanted to copy over my files only to find that I didnt have enough space on my current partition.  So I want to make the other partition just another drive to store downloaded data.  Can anybody help me?
[03:29] <soundray> hipitihop: generic advice: remove the package with the unmet dependency.
[03:29] <variant> jason_: cool
[03:29] <sanityx> magnetron, I know that. I have banshee, and those things. But they wont recognize it, and its not being automounted. The issue isnt having the application
[03:29] <ikonia_> cry0 df -h will show you which files systems are full
[03:29] <jonah> soundray, http://www.bellz.org/treeline/
[03:29] <cholera> I had a dual boot setup with a external hdd. When i removed the windows partition I guess I didn't remove the hdd safely. I'm unable to mount the hdd on ubuntu now. It was suggested that I run chkdsk, but I don't have access to a windows os, any suggestions?
[03:30] <magnetron> sanityx, does other usb drives get automounted?
[03:30] <sanityx> magnetron, yes
[03:30] <variant> cholera: run fsck from ubuntu cd
[03:30] <magnetron> sanityx, this may be an issue of firmware version of the iPod.
[03:30] <soundray> jonah: from looking at the package description, it should be possible to compile it for both Windows and Mac. Qt will be a pain, but feasible.
[03:31] <cholera> variant: plug in external, run ubntu cd from start up?
[03:31] <sanityx> magnetron, then howcome i cant mount ANY ipods. anyway what do you reccomend? a downgrade?
[03:31] <jovan> whats the diffrence between ext2 and ext3? whats "best" to put root on?
[03:31] <cry0> I'm just wanting to delete certain files from my old partition, but it tells me I dont have permissions to delete the files.  It is owned by root...
[03:31] <jujimufu> jovan: ext3 is simply journalised ext2
[03:31] <jujimufu> !ext2
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <jujimufu> !ext3
[03:31] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:31] <cholera> variant: fsck is what I believe told me I needed to run chkdsk
[03:31] <jujimufu> !xfs
[03:31] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[03:31] <v21> someone of u know good way how 2 change resolution settings ? i have 50hz ;/ my eyes is burn after couple hoers spending at computer
[03:32] <Pici> !fixres | v21
[03:32] <ubotu> v21: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:32] <jonnyro> I tried to upgrade to feisty using dist-upgrade, but now i have a lot of broken package dependencies.  Even apt-get -f install wont fix them.  Any tips on what else I should try?
[03:32] <stefg> cholera: if it's ntfs you are into trouble... linux can't fsck a ntfs drive, and will refuse to mount it r/w if it's unclean (can only be made clean by a win chkdsk)
[03:32] <soundray> jovan: ext3 is best for root because of its journalling capability.
[03:32] <jonah> soundray, i tried getting it running on mac to no avail, also i hounded the guys in #osx day and night and someone make a .app of it for mac but this wouldnt work for me, i really wish someone could port it natively to mac somehow
[03:32] <void^> v21: using nvidia's driver?
[03:32] <v21> yeah i change all what i can change in xorg settings
[03:32] <magnetron> sanityx: i heard about some other guy having problems with his iPod after upgrading the firmware. i don't know, but maybe some ipod expert here knows if downgrading would solve your problem.
[03:32] <jonah> soundray, macosx sorry was the irc channel i asked in lots
[03:32] <cholera> stefg: right, so I am in trouble, like I said, I don' have access to windows
[03:32] <soundray> jonnyro: you may have to run apt-get -f install multiple times. Stop when the output doesn't change any more.
[03:32] <v21> yeah i have nvidia driver
[03:33] <stefg> cholera: do you have space to backup the hd temporarily?
[03:33] <jonnyro> soundray: i have run it multiple times.  It's stuck on some python packages and x11-common
[03:33] <hipitihop> soundray, ok offending ones removed, now install ubuntu-desktop is progressing
[03:33] <cholera> stefg: yes
[03:33] <void^> v21: nvidia's driver does not show the correct refresh rate by default. you need to add Option "DynamicTwinView" "false" in your device section to make it show correct rates.
[03:33] <soundray> cholera: you can check an NTFS, let me look up the tool... (stefg)
[03:33] <v21> nvidia -setting -- when i give it i change resolution for 75hz but its not helping
[03:33] <DShepherd> does badblocks actually do fixes?
[03:33] <cholera> soundray: okay
[03:33] <v21> ok i check it
[03:34] <cry0> When I tried upgrading via disk from breezy to fiesty, I now get this error on bootup that it could not synchronize or something... thus I made a fresh install on a new partition.  But now I need to get rid of the system on my old partion while keeping my data... and I dont have a cd burner.
[03:34] <stefg> cholera: so it'll be best to mount the drive read-only, reformat the external disk with a linux-fs and put everything back
[03:34] <soundray> cholera: ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package. You can install it on the running live system.
[03:34] <variant> DShepherd: no. it's supposed to be run with fsck
[03:35] <cholera> stefg: I don't mean to be redundant, but I can't mount the external drive
[03:35] <DShepherd> variant: ok
[03:35] <stefg> cholera: what's the error-maessage?
[03:35] <variant> cholera: why, you got an older/better brother or something?
[03:36] <Christor> Does someone know whats up with the poor video quality on  High Definition High Resolution videos? It looks like an medium quality 640x320 video.
[03:36] <cholera> soundray: like you siad, the drive is unclean, run chkdsk. I had it mounted prev as a ntfs-3g for samba
[03:36] <erikja> !force
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about force - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <cry0> Is there a way I can change the permissions on my other partition (seen as another drive) with sudo?
[03:36] <stefg> soundray: BTW 'ntfsfix is NOT a Linux version of chkdsk.' quote from the website
[03:36] <kritzstapf> Christor: maybe your video card is just not hd-ready? ;)
[03:37] <soundray> cholera: stefg asked that. I suggested you try ntfsfix first. Be sure to read the man page, I'm not familiar with it.
[03:37] <variant> cholera: yes
[03:37] <variant> cry0: yes
[03:37] <cholera> variant: I'm new to linux, I setup a dual boot until I was sure of things. When I wiped the windows partition off and installed completely with ubuntu, I was unable to mount the external
[03:37] <magnetron> Christor, please be more specific
[03:37] <cry0> variant: What would be the command?
[03:37] <soundray> stefg: read on and you'll find that ntfsfix is highly relevant to cholera's situation.
[03:37] <SteveOlcott> Does anyone here know if Vino keeps a log of what addresses have connected to it?
[03:37] <variant> cry0: sounds odd
[03:38] <Christor> kritzstapf: Don't know how to be more specific
[03:38] <variant> cholera: sounds odd
[03:38] <kritzstapf> Christor: talking with magnetron?
[03:38] <variant> cry0: see !mount
[03:38] <variant> !mount | cry0
[03:38] <ubotu> cry0: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:38] <stefg> cholera: there's a --force switch for ntfs-3g, and there's still the kernels ntfs read-only support. So i'm optimistic that you'll be able to mount the drive r/o
[03:38] <Christor> kritzstapf: sry
[03:39] <cholera> stefg: sweet, there is hope.
[03:39] <magnetron>  kritzstapf, Christor, what?
[03:39] <Christor> magnetron: I got the 1280x720 resolution but the quality is the same as a 640x480 resolution video
[03:39] <phy3> cry0 -- you night want to make a partition for /home ... might help you "next time"
[03:40] <jovan> Im planning on running both Win XP and ubuntu, so, where should I place the root?
[03:40] <void^> Christor: a lot of hd content is actually just upscaled from regular tv/dvd resolutions, btw.
[03:40] <magnetron> Christor, maybe they gave you the wrong movie?
[03:40] <jonah> hi can anyone port a linux app http://www.bellz.org/treeline/   to native mac osx somehow, i know it's cheeky asking as i don't have any money to pay anyone but thought it was worth asking. it's a great app and would be very useful on mac as is already on linux and windows. someone wrote a .app of it that wouldnt work and also i've tried to compile it from source and run  it on mac but can't get it to work....
[03:40] <variant> jonah: lol, try in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[03:40] <stefg> cholera: so sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs first, to get hold of ntfsfix
[03:41] <cholera> variant: whats odd about it. I removed a external hdd (ntf3-3g) without properly ejecting it. When trying to mount the drive in ubuntu it fails because its unclean. I don't have a box running windows so that I can fix it with chkdsk
[03:41] <variant> jonah: infact, no. get lost as it has nothing to do wit ubuntu
[03:41] <Christor> magnetron: I played the same file in windows and the quality was much better.
[03:41] <limaunion> does anyone know why 'netstat -nr' shows me 169.254.0.0 ? Is this related to avahi ? how do i stop it ?
[03:41] <soundray> jonah: are you aware of fink? Perhaps they will consider such a request.
[03:41] <jonah> variant, sorry man. i use ubuntu with treeline and just looking for a cross os solution, didnt mean to offend
[03:42] <cholera> stefg: okay, I'm reading on it right now. This ext drive holds all my important backup files, I want to be careful
[03:42] <Incompetnce> im having some trouble with my usb flash drive on feisty... i want to reformat it. i dont know how, though
[03:42] <jonah> soundray, yeah might be worth emailing them thanks
[03:42] <magnetron> Christor: I asked you to be more specific. tell the channel about which software etc.
[03:42] <stefg> cholera: we're only trying to mount it readonly
[03:42] <jovan> Im planning on running both Win XP and ubuntu, so, where should I place the root? on the partition I have dedicated for Linux or in the absolute root of the HD?
[03:43] <cry0> How would I mount my other partition is read/write?
[03:43] <shaohui> Hey, can anyone tell me why I have sound problem with real video under Feisty? Some videos are good, but some does not plays back sound. It was no problem under 5.10 and 6.04
[03:43] <hipitihop> soundray, ok that seem to complete with no further errors
[03:43] <v21> comment which i put 2 my xorg not help i steel have problem with resolution screen ;/ http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2603/zrzutekranumc3.png
[03:43] <bulmer> limaunion: thats the default  link local i believe ..mostly used in windows?
[03:43] <cholera> stefg: thats fine, can be made rw later on?
[03:44] <soundray> hipitihop: great. I guess you'll have to wait to get home before you can check if gnome works now?
[03:44] <stefg> cholera: it'd avoid using ntfs in an linux-only environment... reformat to ext3 as soon s you can
[03:44] <SteveOlcott> Does anyone here know if Vino keeps a log of what addresses have connected to it?  I just had the somebody is connected thing show up and I didn't even know Vino was enabled.
[03:44] <hipitihop> soundray, not quite, I'm one room away from that machine :-)
[03:44] <andre_pl> is it possible to burn a bootable cd iso to a DVD?
[03:44] <mjr> andre_pl, yes
[03:44] <hipitihop> soundray, do I need to restart ?
[03:44] <claesson92> I'm planning a small scripting language, it's called YASS. And i wonders wich sounds best. "Yet Another Scripting System" or "Yes! Another Superb Scripting Language". I know, a little wrong place to ask. But i needed to ask where there was a lot of people. =)
[03:44] <cholera> stefg: I have enough space on my internal drive to move the contents of the external. From there I can reformat to ext3, and then move the contents back
[03:44] <soundray> hipitihop: still, you'll have to rise from your chair :)
[03:44] <limaunion> bulmer: ok. i just want to turn off that service but can't find much information.
[03:45] <stefg> cholera: that's the plan :-)
[03:45] <Christor> magnetron: I'm playing the file in both Mplayer and VLC and I get the same results, codec WMV3 resolution 1280x720p. You will have to forgive me I don't know so much about video and codecs.
[03:45] <soundray> hipitihop: I would recommend rebooting.
[03:45] <Pici> claesson92: Try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:45] <andre_pl> mjr: what do I need to do it? I tried K3B and it would let me burn it to a DVD.
[03:45] <andre_pl> *wouldn't
[03:45] <cholera> stefg: right on, thanks for your help
[03:45] <hipitihop> soundray, can I do that with the sudo shutdown command ?
[03:45] <J_P> hi all
[03:45] <cholera> soundray: thanks for your help
[03:45] <soundray> hipitihop: yes, 'sudo shutdown -r' or just 'sudo reboot'
[03:46] <J_P> people, how I see ubuntu version ?
[03:46] <stefg> cholera: so run ntfsfix first
[03:46] <magnetron> Christor: I don't know anything about that, but I am sure that VLC and Mplayer does not alter the quality of the video.
[03:46] <J_P> has only cat /etc/debian_version
[03:46] <mjr> andre_pl, that's a K3B bug then. On the command line, I'd go growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso , but I can imagine that right-clicking the image in Nautilus and choosing to burn it would work too as normal
[03:47] <soundray> J_P: cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:47] <jovan> is there any app like windows commander for ubuntu?
[03:47] <soundray> jovan: erm, nautilus?
[03:47] <bulmer> jovan: what does a windows commander do?
[03:47] <variant> jovan: mc, gnome-commander
[03:47] <stefg> !info gnome-commander | bulmer
[03:47] <ubotu> bulmer: gnome-commander: nice and fast file manager for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 1273 kB, installed size 3904 kB
[03:47] <andre_pl> mjr: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso   where /dev/dvd is my burner device and image.iso is the ISO File, thats all?
[03:47] <cholera> stefg: okay, somethng weird, hold on
[03:47] <benkoo> ...
[03:47] <J_P> soundray: thanks
[03:48] <Christor> magnetron: No they don't i'm looking at another video now and the quality is great the only difference is the codec, the one with the bad quality is using WMV3 codec and the one with good quality is using XVID codec.
[03:48] <variant> jovan: windows commander was copied off midnight commander (the original unix/linux app)
[03:48] <jovan> bulmer: its a app for copying files back and forth from drives
[03:48] <Alam_Ubuntu> metacity is not starting up on log-in, how can I fix this?
[03:48] <mjr> andre_pl, yes, that should do it
[03:48] <limaunion> bulmer: seems that editing /etc/default/avahi-daemon and setting AVAHI_DAEMON_START=0 could be the solution.
[03:48] <jovan> bulmer: awith ftp features and archiving unpacking and packing
[03:49] <andre_pl> mjr thanks
[03:49] <magnetron> Christor: maybe you should ask the guy who encoded it as wmv3... maybe it is a bad file?
[03:49] <bulmer> i would use multiple tools myself
[03:49] <soundray> Alam_Ubuntu: can you still launch a terminal?
[03:49] <bulmer> limaunion: the 169.154.x.x is a windows kind of thing when it can not get an ip from a dhcp
[03:50] <Alam_Ubuntu> soundray, yea, there a gnome-terminal at login
[03:50] <Christor> magnetron: As I said earlier When I played the exact same file in windows the quality was better so i'm thinking if it could be a codec related problem?
[03:50] <soundray> Alam_Ubuntu: when you run metacity from the terminal, does it show any error messages in the terminal?
[03:51] <variant> Christor: try enabling deinterlacing in vlc (as it's an interlaced file right)
[03:51] <Alam_Ubuntu> Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[03:51] <magnetron> Christor: i use gstreamer software, don't ask me
[03:51] <limaunion> bulmer: ok, the strange thing is that i have just one nic and it has a static ip address, thanks anyway.
[03:51] <Dannn1> How do I edit /root/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:51] <ikonia_> Dannn1 use a text editor
[03:51] <Christor> variant: don't know what interlaced is but I can try and activate it.
[03:51] <stefg> !grub | Dannnn1
[03:52] <Xappe> Dannnn1: that should be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:52] <ubotu> Dannnn1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:52] <limaunion> Dannnn1; you mean '/boot/grub/menu.lst.'
[03:52] <modern> hi
[03:52] <Dannnn1> Thanks Xappe.
[03:52] <soundray> Alam_Ubuntu: run 'gconf-editor' and go to apps/metacity/window_keybindings/toggle_shaded
[03:52] <variant> Christor: some of the deinterlace options will make it crash, you just have to find the one that works for you. and it will make it look better
[03:52] <soundray> Alam_Ubuntu: set the value to "disabled".
[03:53] <Christor> variant: I will try to find some settings that work otherwise I will comeback later and ask around again.
[03:53] <variant> Christor: ok, cool
[03:53] <Alam_Ubuntu> soundray, done
[03:53] <soundray> Alam_Ubuntu: reboot to see if metacity now starts by itself.
[03:54] <Frederick> halo folks anyone here has a vizio mp3 player and can say if it is compatible with linux?
[03:54] <cholera> stefg: hdd is now empty :-( I'm going to leave now and go crazy
[03:55] <AzMoo> Hey. Every time I open Gaim it tells me that it "could not add buddy 1 for an unknown reason" and that the most common reason is that I have too many buddies. I don't have all that many contacts, and I'm not trying to add anybody, simply open the program. Anybody know what's going on?
[03:55] <hipitihop> soundray, you're a lifesaver... gnome is back up...it whined it couldn't open the human theme but still allows me in and now using update manager to finish things
[03:55] <stefg> cholera: waht did you enter as device for ntfsfix?
[03:55] <soundray> hipitihop: glad it worked
[03:55] <hipitihop> soundray, many many thanks for your assist, awesome.
[03:55] <stefg> cholera: testdisk might help you
[03:55] <AzMoo> stefg, cholera left.
[03:56] <stefg> AzMoo: thanks... got join/part switched off in here
[03:56] <AzMoo> np :)
[03:56] <Incompetnce> how do i format a usb flash drive? i need it work with both ubuntu and windows...
[03:56] <modern> fun
[03:57] <jujimufu> Incompetnce: you need to format it in a filesystem that is recognisable by both operating systems.
[03:57] <Frederick> AzMoo: I got the same problem
[03:57] <AzMoo> Frederick, annoying me :\
[03:57] <jujimufu> Incompetnce: i.e. fat32 or ntfs. You can also format it to ext2/ext3, but then you will need to install fs-driver on your windows partition/pc to read it,
[03:57] <soundray> Incompetnce: first, disable automounting (System-Preferences-Removable Drives). Then, find out the device name of the partition.
[03:57] <letharion> How should I install cedega? apt-cache doesn't seem to mention winex/cedega/transgaming.
[03:57] <Incompetnce> jujimufu: how do i format it? i should put it in fat32 i think
[03:57] <RedACE> System -> Administration -> Network -> DNS -> Search domains. I enter a handful of domains in here and they appear in /etc/resolve.conf. But later I check and they're gone. I suspect the dhcpclient is removing them when it recreates this file. Is there a way to fix this?
[03:57] <jujimufu> Incompetnce: it's better to do it from windows, then.
[03:58] <soundray> Incompetnce: you listening?
[03:58] <SlimeyPete> letharion: cedega is non-free and you have to pay for it
[03:58] <AzMoo> letharion, that's because it's commerical. If you want it free then you need to install the development release.
[03:58] <Incompetnce> soudray: yep. can i not jst unmount it when it mounts itself?
[03:59] <soundray> Incompetnce: you can, but it will remount it on the first chance it gets, which can be confusing.
[03:59] <soundray> Incompetnce: while it's mounted, you can find out the partition name with 'mount' in a terminal.
[03:59] <Felip1> Who knows a alternative link to: http://cisco.netacad.net/cnams/public/Checker.jsp  ????
[03:59] <letharion> Let me clearify. I have bought cedega. Under gentoo, I can just give the downloaded file to portage, and then cedega can be installed just like any other program, using emerge cedega. It seems this is not the case in ubuntu. Having downloaded the .deb file, I don't know what to do with it.
[03:59] <knix_> I want to add a user and only give them access to a specific folder.  How do I do this?
[03:59] <SlimeyPete> letharion: sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[04:00] <SlimeyPete> then enter your user password
[04:00] <leith> is this the right channel for absolute newbies to linux
[04:00] <ikonia_> letharion use the version in the repo - if there is one
[04:00] <SlimeyPete> leith: it is if you're using Ubuntu
[04:00] <ikonia_> leith this is the place to ask for support for ubuntu
[04:00] <soundray> leith: yes, if your question is ubuntu-related
[04:00] <leith> yup
[04:00] <Felip1> Who knows a alternative link to: http://cisco.netacad.net/cnams/public/Checker.jsp  ????
[04:00] <soundray> !repeat | Felip1
[04:00] <ubotu> Felip1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:00] <ikonia_> Felip1 I know how to not ask random questions nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:01] <SlimeyPete> leith: dpkg is the tool that actually installs debs ; apt-get/synaptic/whatever uses dpkg
[04:01] <SlimeyPete> erm
[04:01] <SlimeyPete> *letharion:
[04:01] <Felip1> But this link not open here!
[04:01] <Frederick> halo folks anyone here has a vizio mp3 player and can say if it is compatible with linux?
[04:01] <kritzstapf> hm, no sound while playing real video with totem-xine, any ideas?
[04:01] <ikonia_> Felip1 nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:01] <leith> i'm trying to customize the shell prompt and it won't catch. i've edited the .bashrc and _profile but it still comes up like the default
[04:01] <Incompetnce> soudray: ok. theres quite a few, but i thnik i have the one i want
[04:01] <ikonia_> leith are you using a gnome terminal or an xterm  ?
[04:02] <letharion> SlimeyPete: Ah, thanks :)
[04:02] <soundray> Incompetnce: you have to be rock-solid sure, because formatting is going to remove all the data from that partition.
[04:02] <ikonia_> SlimeyPete great nick
[04:02] <leith> not sure, whatever is the terminal, i'm in a graphical user interface if that helps
[04:02] <SlimeyPete> ikonia_: thanks
[04:02] <ikonia_> leith are you using gnome and opening a termanl
[04:02] <ikonia_> terminal
[04:02] <leith> i'm in gnome and i open a terminal from there yes
[04:03] <ikonia_> leith ok - as I recall gnome is not a login shell so it won't parse .bash_rc etc etc
[04:03] <Felip1> How I open .jsp on mozilla?
[04:03] <Incompetnce> soundray: /dev/sdb1 on /media/USB DISK type vfat
[04:03] <ikonia_> leith not sure if it parses .bash_profile
[04:03] <Incompetnce> soundray: thats it.
[04:03] <soundray> Incompetnce: that's at least plausible :)
[04:03] <viller> can I make a server install using the alternate desktop cd?
[04:03] <leith> hmm, so how can i customize the gnome terminal then
[04:03] <ikonia_> Felip1 this is nothing to do with ubuntu - again
[04:04] <ikonia_> Felip1 jsp requires a jsp server technology running
[04:04] <ikonia_> leith I can't remember the gnome config files for the termanl, check your .bash_profile then you may want to look at gnome.org unless someone can remember off the top of their head
[04:04] <open-your-eyes> Watch as LA police fire into crowds of protesters. http://one.revver.com/watch/254524  Repost, call your media outlets, take back your country.
[04:05] <rever75> Hi I am running Feisty and was wondering if it only uses cli iptables as its firewall. Also what are the default firewall rules for Feisty?
[04:05] <soundray> Incompetnce: format with 'mkdosfs -F 32 -n MyUSBStick /dev/sdb1' (or run 'mkdosfs' first to see the options)
[04:05] <Felip1> I open jsp on IE by Windows... Here I cant. How I install Java?
[04:05] <ikonia_> open-your-eyes please don't spam with none ubuntu comments
[04:05] <soundray> Incompetnce: sorry, you have to sudo that
[04:05] <ikonia_> !java >Felip1
[04:05] <luisbg> somebody knows how to deactivate the accidental clicks in a laptop trackpad? I just want to click with the button not with the pad
[04:05] <viller> can I make a server install using the alternate desktop cd?
[04:05] <leith> is there another terminal for ubuntu i can use which is customizable?
[04:05] <ikonia_> viller not really
[04:05] <Felip1> I tried but nots right
[04:05] <ikonia_> Felip1 yes it is
[04:06] <soundray> ikonia_: why not? It has this server option...
[04:06] <ikonia_> leith the gnome termanl is customisable
[04:06] <viller> ikonia_ :( but I don't want gnome installed. I have to through it all out later
[04:06] <ikonia_> soundray the alternate CD has a "server install" option ?
[04:06] <ikonia_> viller you already have gnome installed
[04:07] <soundray> ikonia_: quite so (if I remember correctly)
[04:07] <ikonia_> viller sorry - wrong person
[04:07] <Dimensions> hiya what is watchdog ?
[04:07] <rever75> Also what is the best firewall gui to install? Shorewall, firestarter, etc...
[04:07] <soundray> viller: look through the boot options of the alternate CD. There should be an option like "Server installation".
[04:07] <leith> ikonia, i can customize it but i'd like it fixed that way instead of inputing the PS=1 everytime i open it
[04:07] <Incompetnce> soundray: is that with the disk unmounted?
[04:07] <viller> soundray: thanks
[04:07] <soundray> Incompetnce: yes. Please make absolutely sure :)
[04:07] <jovan> I just downloaded a driver for my x800 graphic card of the ati/amd website, it's a run file, how do I install it?
[04:07] <ikonia_> just remove gnome/xorg or use the server cd
[04:07] <ikonia_> viller the alternate cd as far as I'm aware is just the normal cd without the graphical installer, although soundray is suggesting there maybe a server option on that cd that I'm not aware of
[04:07] <sony> hello,I come from Taiwan.
[04:07] <viller> I think there was a server option before Ubuntu split into desktop and server
[04:07] <ikonia_> leith so find the gnome termanl config files to make it a "login shell" on startup
[04:08] <ikonia_> soundray I don't remember seeing the server option on the alt cd, only on the server cd
[04:08] <mikeyuf> Do you have to exit the GUI to edit X11.conf?
[04:08] <jovan> I just downloaded a driver for my x800 graphic card of the ati/amd website, it's a run file, how do I install it?
[04:08] <ikonia_> mikeyuf no but you have to restart xorg to pickup the changes
[04:08] <ikonia_> !ati >jovan
[04:09] <soundray> ikonia_: I don't know, it used to be there, viller says there has been a change
[04:09] <Diezel> Anyone know a good program to view cad images in? DWG files...
[04:09] <ikonia_> soundray maybe its legacy, I didn't notice it on 6.06 or later
[04:09] <aubade> jovan: 'sh installer.sh' or './installer.sh' in a terminal. The driver on Ubuntu's repos didn't work?
[04:09] <mikeyuf> Anyone have any experience getting the geforce4 420 Go card working with the restricted drivers?
[04:09] <ikonia_> mikeyuf use the nvidia legacy package
[04:09] <soundray> Later guys
[04:09] <letharion> jovan: Are you sure you need to? Ubuntu set up my graphics card, an X850, automagically during install
[04:10] <Incompetnce> soundray: it says "no such file or directory"
[04:10] <mikeyuf> ikonia_: Pardon my NEWBness, but where might I find that?
[04:10] <ikonia_> mikeyuf in the ubuntu repo
[04:10] <ikonia_> !nvidia >mieyuf
[04:10] <ikonia_> !nvidia >mikeyuf
[04:11] <Steve^> What's a good program for ripping a CD as mp3?
[04:11] <mikeyuf> alright, going to give it a shot
[04:11] <ikonia_> Steve^ Xroast ?
[04:11] <aubade> Steve^: GTK (Gnome, Xfce, etc) or QT (KDE)?
[04:11] <asherZ> what a great os owns vista imo :D
[04:12] <ikonia_> aubade for ripping CD's ??
[04:12] <Steve^> aubade, I have them all installed.. does it matter?
[04:12] <aubade> Sound Juicer has support for ripping MP3s as far as I remember but you needed to set up a profile for it.
[04:12] <Steve^> aubade, sound juicer seems dredfully slow
[04:12] <aubade> Steve^: I dunno, hate to recommend GTK apps to KDE users. lol
[04:12] <uski> hi; i am having a problem with network-manager. I would like to add a special route to one of the locations, because my business network requires a special route. How can I specify an additionnal command to be ran when configuring a specific profile so that I can launch /sbin/route add ... ? thanks
[04:12] <Steve^> aubade, I aint a KDE user :P
[04:13] <Steve^> I'm a gnome user who uses mostly KDE apps
[04:14] <Steve^> ikonia_, Xroast isn't in the repositories?
[04:14] <ikonia_> Steve^ just search for ripping tons will turn up
[04:15] <Steve^> perhaps I'll just reboot to windows.. I guess I'll want to sync the CD to my mp3 player too
[04:16] <aubade> Never used Goobox...
[04:17] <sauba> hello
[04:17] <uski> is there any documentation about the internals of network-manager ?
[04:17] <st963746> hello
[04:17] <aubade> There is a really, really cute GTK ripper that will probably end up shitting with Xubuntu 7.10.
[04:17] <sanityx> Eh I'll try proposed updates, maybe that'll end up fixing my ipod.
[04:17] <phy3> uski --- source code is available
[04:17] <aubade> Only put out RPMs, too lazy to compile.
[04:17] <uski> phy3: lol i see
[04:18] <cholera> if fdisk -l | grep NTFS list my external hdd as /dev/sda1 But fstab does not have it listed. Should I mkdir /media/External and then add to fstab /dev/sda1/  /nedia/External?
[04:18] <phy3> :)
[04:18] <sauba> could someone please help me? i'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu server 6.10 to 7.04, and i'm getting an error "ACPI: invalid PBLK length [5] "
[04:18] <cholera> *media
[04:18] <Solver> I live in Ontario, Canada.  I tried to interact with a provincial government department last night.  My browser was blocked, not because it was running on Linux (they accept RH & SuSE) but because it was running Ubuntu
[04:18] <sauba> i'm new to linux, so i've no ide what that means
[04:19] <Solver> at least they are trying I suppose :)
[04:19] <Panzer_> yea but that is nuts
[04:19] <uski> phy3: any idea of the place where i can get the source code of network-manager without downloading the whole source code of everything ? :)
[04:19] <phy3> mmm....
[04:20] <axisys> anyone know of a web version project management tool ?
[04:20] <phy3> uski --- might get a clue here -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/107321
[04:20] <ikonia_> axisys trac
[04:21] <phy3> maybe no...
[04:21] <shoto> ??
[04:21] <shoto> help
[04:21] <st963746> sauba how far along did you get with the upgrade?
[04:21] <sauba> axisys: activeCollab
[04:21] <cholera> can someone help with a external drive mount, not sure what to put in fstab
[04:21] <shoto> help
[04:21] <ikonia_> axisys there is also some prehosted ones, but this isn't rally anything to do with ubuntu
[04:21] <ikonia_> shoto ask the question
[04:21] <axisys> sauba: have u used it..
[04:21] <sauba> st963746: yesterday
[04:21] <axisys> ikonia_: i know not ubuntu related.. but i am not sure who else to ask :(
[04:21] <st963746> I meant, did it upgrade manage to install any new packages?
[04:21] <ikonia_> axisys not here
[04:22] <ikonia_> axisys this is ubuntu support - maybe webdev, or freenode-social etc etc
[04:22] <axisys> ikonia_: u bet
[04:22] <axisys> ikonia_: thnx
[04:22] <uski> phy3: thanks for your help, i'll try to find what i need. if anyone else has an idea.. .:)
[04:22] <st963746> axisys: you can try eGroupWare
[04:23] <st963746> axisys: but personally I don't like it very much
[04:24] <Jakke77> SUI-FIN 0-2 :o
[04:24] <axisys> hmm
[04:25] <Frederick> folks wich is the command to list the linux and kernel verion the system is using?
[04:25] <GenNMX> Frederick: uname -a
[04:25] <cholera> need help mounting an external hdd formatted with ntfs3-g, drive won't mount because it's unclean, need to run chkdsk, can't run chkdsk no access to windows box. Installed ntfsfix to run on external, but I can't mount the drive now
[04:25] <Bibagi> which one is best player for playing dvd/divx....... every thing
[04:25] <Jayson_> hi people, my ubuntu crash with this message in all terminal "jayson-desktop kernel: [ 7362.919269]  general protection fault: 0000 [1]  SMP", what is this ?
[04:26] <ikonia_> Jayson_ problem with the kernel
[04:26] <rambo3> cholera, you dont fsck mounted drives
[04:26] <sauba> st963746: the upgrade installed everything, and, everything runs right, but when the machine boots it's weird
[04:26] <Vlet> Is there a LAMP package in the repos, or does one just install the individual packages?
[04:26] <cholera> rambo3: it's not mounted
[04:26] <ikonia_> Jayson_ have you checked your hardware, or made sure your hardware is compatible with the kernel you are running
[04:26] <viviersf> guys
[04:26] <viviersf> how the hell do i generate my own gtk theme
[04:27] <ikonia_> viviersf use an art tool and learn how to draw
[04:27] <cholera> ramb03: All I need is just read perms so I can run some kind of disk utiltiy to clean it up, Ubuntu can't access because it's unclean
[04:27] <Bibagi> which one is best player for playing dvd/divx....... every thing
[04:27] <Jayson_> ikonia_ when i running 32bit application aways my kernel crash, my kernel is "Linux jayson-desktop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[04:27] <Vlet> viviersf: http://www.gtk.org/%7Eotaylor/gtk/2.0/theme-engines.html
[04:28] <ikonia_> Jayson_ 32bit app on a 64bit box ???
[04:28] <Frogzoo> cholera: only solution - boot windows & run scandisk
[04:28] <Kohvihoor> Bibagi: mplayer or vlc, i guess.
[04:28] <ikonia_> Jayson_ ubuntu is not multilib
[04:28] <viviersf> Vlet, is there like a tool to do it ?
[04:28] <sanityx> w00t fixed my ipod
[04:29] <Jayson_> ikonia_ I use libs32 to run wine, and the kernel crash, or program reset
[04:29] <ikonia_> Jayson_ not a great idea
[04:29] <ash_> asherZ: hi
[04:29] <ikonia_> Jayson_ ubuntu is not multi lib
[04:29] <cholera> Frogzoo: ntfsprogs as ntfsfix which says it can do that without having the need for windows.
[04:29] <Jayson_> ikonia_ For example my tibia crash with this message "XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 after 21044 requests (21043 known processed) with 0 events remaining."
[04:30] <lordphatal> Hello all
[04:30] <ikonia_> Jayson_ ubuntu is not multilib
[04:30] <lordphatal> it's nice to see a ubuntu channel
[04:30] <phy3> USKI --- http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/network-manager.html
[04:30] <lordphatal> if someone could be so kind as to help me get a wifi connection going i would appreciate it
[04:30] <Jayson_> ikonia_ This message appers too in x64 apps
[04:31] <ikonia_> Jayson_ thats a different error to you kernel panic
[04:31] <mat1980> lordphatal, is your wireless card recognized?
[04:31] <Vlet> viviersf: as far as I know, the themes are more than just images and layout styles, they're like small applications, so I would guess not; you basically have to 'program' them, but I'm far from an expert
[04:31] <lordphatal> i ran lshw and it shows the broadcom card
[04:31] <lordphatal> but then i do ifconfig and it only shows the hard connection not the wireless
[04:31] <mat1980> lord, is a bcm43?
[04:31] <uski> phy3: thanks a lot ! :)
[04:32] <ikonia_> lordphatal iwconfig
[04:32] <lordphatal> let me run it again so i have the info in front of me ok?
[04:32] <phy3> good luck!
[04:32] <lordphatal> ok iwconfi on it
[04:32] <sauba> so, does anyone know what "ACPI: Invalid PBLK Length [5] " means when booting?
[04:32] <lordphatal> yeah it shows the wifi as eth1
[04:32] <lordphatal> Broadcom 4318
[04:32] <ikonia_> lordphatal ok - so ifconfig eth1 will show your network card
[04:32] <phy3> sauba -- http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLJ_enUS219US219&q=%22ACPI%3a+Invalid+PBLK+Length+%5b5%5d%22
[04:32] <Jayson_> I Can install flash in amd64?
[04:33] <Biohazard> hi
[04:33] <ikonia_> Jayson_ no
[04:33] <ikonia_> Jayson_ flash is 32bit only
[04:33] <rambo3> sauba, u think its a known bug
[04:33] <cholera> ramb03: besides, why would I run fsck on a ntfs drive? The drive is formatted ntfs
[04:33] <lordphatal> i am in the network settings screen and it shows a wifi connection
[04:33] <mat1980> lordphatal, well install the driver with sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:34] <lordphatal> ok ill try that
[04:34] <mat1980> lordphatal, then configure your wifi network with networkmanager
[04:34] <jujimufu> which one's better, runit or initng (instead of the old init)
[04:34] <magnetron> !flash64 | Jayson_
[04:34] <ubotu> Jayson_: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:35] <Jayson_> !flash64
[04:35] <sauba> phy3: thanks for the google search, i had already done it, but i didn't understand any of the pages there... too techie for me, that's why i'm asking here
[04:35] <ikonia_> Jayson_ he's just shown you the link - you don't need to do it again
[04:35] <mat1980> !broadcom > lordphatal
[04:35] <phy3> sauba -- it mentions "can't turn on the cooling fan" for one thing
[04:35] <magnetron> jujimufu: ubuntu ships with Upstart, which is much more swift than init
[04:36] <sauba> phy3: but the fan is running
[04:36] <jujimufu> magnetron: I am using kubuntu, is this still the case? (I have feisty fawn, btw)
[04:36] <ikonia_> magnetron are you irish ?
[04:36] <magnetron> jujimufu: yes
[04:36] <NAHLA> Server: irc.freenode.net
[04:36] <magnetron> ikonia_: no
[04:36] <ikonia_> magnetron apologies, confused with someone else
[04:36] <jujimufu> magnetron: thanks
[04:37] <lordphatal> ikonia, how do i determine if an
[04:37] <lordphatal> IP has been assigned to the wifi card
[04:37] <AzMoo> Does anybody use utorrent with wine? It seems to be stuck minimized to the "system tray" and I can't get it to be viewable.
[04:37] <Adamantinus> Hey guys.
[04:37] <ikonia_> lordphatal ifconfig eth1 will show you
[04:37] <Adamantinus> How do I update my nVidia drivers in Ubuntu 6.10? Using a 6600GT.
[04:37] <robinsjostrom> ubuntu channel has over 1200+ people in need of help doesnt that tell all about ubuntu?
[04:37] <ikonia_> !nvidia >Adamantinus
[04:38] <Adamantinus> Thank you.
[04:38] <magnetron> AzMoo: did you find the utorrent page at appdb.winehq.org ?
[04:38] <AzMoo> robinsjostrom, bad reasoning. Not everybody is here in need of help.
[04:38] <jinzo> uT works quite good thru wine
[04:38] <FYI> anyone know how to install .sit fonts on ubuntu?
[04:39] <robinsjostrom> !ati >robinsjostrom
[04:39] <Kohvihoor> is it possible, that something bad will happen, if i downgrade latest ubuntu's xorg and kernel?
[04:39] <Jayson_> ikonia_ Maybe the error 104 in X, can be becouse NVidia 64 ?
[04:39] <AzMoo> magnetron, yes! nobody seems to be having the same issue.
[04:39] <ikonia_> Jayson_ quite possibly
[04:39] <rambo3> !downgrade
[04:39] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[04:39] <Bakefy> Is there something like xampp for linux?
[04:39] <lordphatal> ikonia, I ran ifconfig eth1 and it shows no sign of an IP address
[04:39] <simonspain> alguien  save cmo instalar y trabajar cn Gaim??
[04:39] <robinsjostrom> my screen goes black when trying to run ubuntu cd
[04:39] <ikonia_> lordphatal then its not been assigned
[04:39] <lordphatal> ikonia, it is seeing the MAC
[04:40] <Bakefy> wait... im a doofus
[04:40] <Kohvihoor> hah, breaking my system does not sound so good.
[04:40] <strabes> robinsjostrom: Do you have an ATI card?
[04:40] <jovan> just installed the proprietary gfx driver for, and the screen is blank after boot, what to do?
[04:40] <ikonia_> lordphatal because its rading he mac from the card - so it will show it
[04:40] <magnetron> AzMoo: maybe you should consider investigating some linux native altenatives.
[04:40] <robinsjostrom> strabes: yes ati x700
[04:40] <CheshireViking> !pl | simonspain
[04:40] <reubs> robinsjostrom: do you have a nvidia 6600?
[04:40] <ubotu> simonspain: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:40] <robinsjostrom> reubs: ati x700se
[04:40] <AzMoo> magnetron, I have and now I'm back to utorrent. It's by far the best bittorrent client I've used.
[04:40] <bewst> i can't boot; it's bad.  can someone help?  http://paste.debian.net/27089
[04:41] <FYI> !fonts
[04:41] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:41] <magnetron> robinsjostrom: http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/
[04:41] <Kohvihoor> !ati
[04:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:41] <mat1980> lordphatal, the networkmanager on your gnome panel shows the card installed in your system
[04:41] <Adamantinus> ikonia_: Followed your link, that seems to be for installing drivers, I've already got them installed but need to update them.
[04:41] <robinsjostrom> magnetron: thanks!
[04:41] <jovan> just installed the proprietary gfx driver, and the screen is blank after boot, what to do?
[04:42] <lordphatal> i am in the windows titled "Network Settings" and there is an item called "WirelessConnection"
[04:42] <strabes> robinsjostrom: You don't actually have to download the alternate CD.
[04:42] <ikonia_> Adamantinus why do you need to update them
[04:42] <magnetron> robinsjostrom: np. check out #ubuntu-se later
[04:42] <lordphatal> I have configured it properly
[04:42] <ikonia_> !wirless >lordphatal
[04:42] <strabes> robinsjostrom: PM me and i'll walk you through it
[04:42] <Adamantinus> ikonia: I don't have the option to enable dual monitors in my nVidia settings.
[04:42] <Kohvihoor> is it possible to have working opengl with radeon 9200 and ubuntu 7.04?
[04:42] <ikonia_> Adamantinus are you using nvidia-settings ?
[04:42] <Adamantinus> Yes.
[04:43] <ikonia_> Adamantinus because dual monitors is nothing to do with nvidia - you have to do it through xorg
[04:43] <ikonia_> Adamantinus thats nothign to do with your driver version
[04:43] <strabes> Kohvihoor: yes, install fglrx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?action=show&redirect=BinaryDriverHowto%2Fati
[04:43] <lordphatal> ikonia i typed !wirless nothing happened
[04:43] <Adamantinus> I was told there was an option for it in newer versions by two different people :/
[04:43] <jovan> just installed the proprietary gfx driver, and the screen is blank after boot, what to do?
[04:43] <ikonia_> !wirless >lordphatal
[04:43] <Adamantinus> X Server something or other.
[04:43] <ikonia_> Adamantinus thats the nvidia-settings app - again nothing to do with the driver version
[04:43] <reubs> ikonia_: whats your problem? 6600 with duel monitors?
[04:44] <Adamantinus> Yeah.
[04:44] <ikonia_> Adamantinus you want either xinerama in xorg - or twinview in xorg with the nvidia driver
[04:44] <ikonia_> reubs I have no problem
[04:44] <Adamantinus> Actually he's trying to help me.
[04:44] <ziggy23> is there any easy way to set up ssh tunneling in ubuntu  (easy=graphical interface)?
[04:44] <strabes> robinsjostrom: Are you there?
[04:44] <Adamantinus> :/
[04:44] <Adamantinus> So how do I do that then?
[04:44] <ikonia_> ziggy23 yes the same way as every other distro
[04:44] <reubs> ikonia_: whoops
[04:44] <wkrally> need some help with installing nvidia driver on the 64 amd 7.10 feisty
[04:44] <ikonia_> Adamantinus there is a guide on the wiki on ubuntu with xinerama and twinview - its quite complex to talk you through, you need to read and understand it
[04:44] <j2daosh> i'm getting a "connection refused" error on proftp... anyone know how to fix it?
[04:44] <jovan> can I uninstall the propietry gfx drivers from a shell somehow?
[04:44] <magnetron> ziggy23: putty is available
[04:44] <ikonia_> !nvidia >wkrally
[04:45] <Zta> Does Ubuntu have the madwifi drivers as packages?  Or do I have to compile them myself from tarball?
[04:45] <Adamantinus> Hmmk
[04:45] <j2daosh> proftp is binded to ip and port number is correct in proftpd.conf
[04:45] <ikonia_> jovan you did apt-get install - do apt-get remove
[04:45] <x386> hi *
[04:45] <robinsjostrom> magnetron: how do i start the text install of ubuntu? i get no such option
[04:45] <x386> help :)
[04:45] <x386> "small" locale problem... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18962/
[04:45] <toodles> Hello, does anyone here have problems playing nexuiz on feisty? My mouse moves smoothly, but jumps to the centre of the screen about once a second. I've also experienced this on several other 3d games in feisty and I have no idea what could possible cause the problem.
[04:45] <magnetron> robinsjostrom: it's only availiable on the "alternate" cd
[04:45] <j2daosh> ps -ef|grep proftp says it is running an accepting connections.... netstat shows port 21 listening for ftp
[04:45] <x386> I quess I have to reinstall locales,  but I do not know how...
[04:45] <ziggy23> it just gets to be a pain if you have to forward more than one port
[04:45] <jovan> ikonia: I'll type that in the recovery boot option?
[04:46] <ikonia_> j2daosh cut tot he chase, whats the problem
[04:46] <j2daosh> ... connection refused....
[04:46] <ikonia_> j2daosh check the log
[04:46] <lordphatal> ikonia, can i pm having trouble keeping track of what you said in this chat porridge
[04:46] <j2daosh> rgr
[04:46] <j2daosh> brb
[04:46] <ziggy23> I will look for putty  -- didn't know there was a Linux port.
[04:46] <ikonia_> !wirless | lordphatal
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wirless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <ikonia_> !wireless | lordphatal
[04:46] <ubotu> lordphatal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:47] <lordphatal> ok i have to go nm
[04:47] <mwe> ziggy23: just use ssh client in linux
[04:48] <robinsjostrom> magnetron: is it much harder for a newbie to install the alternate cd?
[04:48] <aldin> how can i watch usage of only one process lets say konqueror with 'top' or some other command
[04:48] <ziggy23> Is the ssh client in Linux a GUI though.  My command line skills are weak and I need to forward more than one port
[04:49] <strabes> robinsjostrom: The only real difference is that you don't boot into a gui to install it. The install is kind of text based. It's basically like the windows XP installer.
[04:49] <robinsjostrom> strabes: ok so the partition part and stuff is exactly the same as the regular install?
[04:50] <reubs> Adamantinus: you have a 6600?
[04:50] <Adamantinus> Yes.
[04:50] <Adamantinus> 6600GT
[04:50] <the_hammer> hi all ubuntu 7.04 ussing the kde desktop and im having some probs
[04:50] <the_hammer> i searched synaptic for this GtkGLExt and installed everything that poped up and then also i search for pyopengl installed what was listed there and still this is what i get while trying to play chess in 3D mode http://pastebin.ca/468962
[04:50] <ikonia_> Adamantinus what are you going on about now ?
[04:50] <reubs> Adamantinus: duel screen?
[04:50] <Adamantinus> reubs just asked me a question.
[04:50] <Adamantinus> And yes.
[04:50] <Adamantinus> But only one monitor currently enabled.
[04:50] <the_hammer> anyone able to help me?
[04:51] <Adamantinus> Just followed TwinView guide.
[04:51] <strabes> robinsjostrom: well, no, there's no pretty GUI. You don't have to use the alternate CD to install ubuntu even though you have a card that needs the proprietary fglrx driver. If you PM me i can walk you through it.
[04:51] <pluffsy> hi
[04:51] <Adamantinus> Gotta restart X.
[04:51] <Adamantinus> Why?
[04:51] <ikonia_> Adamantinus to pickup the changes
[04:51] <reubs> Adamantinus: i had this problem only just today :)
[04:51] <wkrally> i already tried that how to that u get get with the !nvidia but everytime i boot up it gives an error and the only way to get gdm working is to use vesa
[04:51] <joselj> how can i change the network manager password?
[04:51] <pluffsy> does anyone know how the future of flash/flex looks on linux? it's only the sdk for flex that adobe is going to open source, right? the vm will still be closed?
[04:51] <Adamantinus> ikonia, I understand this. The why was in response to reubs.
[04:51] <Adamantinus> ;)
[04:52] <reubs> Adamantinus: ubuntu is installed?
[04:52] <ikonia_> I see
[04:52] <Adamantinus> Yeah. 6.10.
[04:52] <ikonia_> how could ubuntu not be installed if he's configuring X ?
[04:52] <reubs> not just runing off the live cd?
[04:52] <Adamantinus> No I'm not.
[04:52] <Adamantinus> I'm not stupid, reubs.
[04:52] <ziggy23> !help
[04:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:53] <magnetron> pluffsy: there is some heavy development in the gnash project, a GNU implementation of flash
[04:53] <pluffsy> magnetron: alright that sounds amazing. I didn't know there were any serious free flash implementations. how far away is gnash from a usable product?
[04:54] <ikonia_> -d ?
[04:54] <kwah> hi all, got problems with the naming of files on automounted flash card (vfat), guess it has smth to do with mount options, but don't know where to change them, any ideas???
[04:55] <r0y4l> is there someone who can help me fixing my maximizing problem? i'm using three monitors (two of them with twinview) and on those two the windows are always maximized on both but i want that the windows are only maximized on one screen?
[04:55] <magnetron> pluffsy: gnash is far from ready, but it supports a lot of the SWF v7 features... many pages today needs SWF8 or SWF9. that's all i know
[04:56] <crdlb> swfdec seems to work better w/ what it supports
[04:56] <robinsjostrom> you got PM strabes
[04:56] <strabes> robinsjostrom: no
[04:56] <MortarMan> hello , how do i recognize what type of ATI drivers i am using (binary or opensource) ?
[04:56] <pluffsy> magnetron: I really like the flash platform. I think java is much more suited for applications and server application than for applets. I hope it will work as well as it does on closed platforms on linux soon.
[04:56] <robinsjostrom> strabes: yes? hmm strange
[04:57] <Kohvihoor> gnash is a player not compiler or such, i think.
[04:57] <ZeroSystem> hello can someone help me with shareing file on a network, i dont know why files shared cant be seen by windows machine ? and to access pc they need passw
[04:57] <wkrally> can somebody help me with my xserver problem?
[04:57] <ZeroSystem> *password
[04:57] <engla> Q: at-spi-registryd is running all the time in Ubuntu (6.10). I don't need it right? How can I disable it? It uses more than 20M RAM
[04:57] <strabes> robinsjostrom: i pm'd you
[04:57] <Frogzoo> MortarMan: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:57] <magnetron> pluffsy: i wish that web developers should shift to html
[04:58] <Kohvihoor> pluffsy: includes the Java source code for the ActionScript and MXML compilers, the ActionScript debugger and the core ActionScript libraries from the SDK.
[04:58] <robinsjostrom> you dont see my messages strabes?
[04:58] <variant> magnetron: "shift to html"?
[04:58] <pluffsy> magnetron: you mean ajax instead of java/flash stuff?
[04:59] <variant> sorry, #ubuntu-offtopic i guess
[04:59] <strabes> robinsjostrom: no i'm not seeing any of them
[04:59] <pluffsy> Kohvihoor: alright. thanks.
[04:59] <strabes> robinsjostrom: just double click on my username in the userlist or type /msg strabes yourmessage
[04:59] <robinsjostrom> strabes: strange
[04:59] <robinsjostrom> strabes: join #robinsprivate
[04:59] <timewriter> hello
[04:59] <RijSeL> hello
[04:59] <switch_> my roomate has an ibook and forget his password. I don't know anything at all about Mac's so I am not able to help him.Could anyone give us a hand?
[05:00] <magnetron> variant: ok, my bad english... I wish that web developers should use HTML and XHTML instead of this javascript/flash situation we have today
[05:00] <ikonia_> magnetron the good ones do, the hit and run marketing morons don't
[05:01] <jrib> switch_: try ##mac
[05:01] <kofany> hello how i can check on witch chipset is my graphic card?
[05:01] <crdlb> kofany: lspci|grep VGA
[05:02] <jrib> switch_: or is it an ubuntu password?
[05:02] <qmf> hi all, who's confident with bluetooth/usb devices?
[05:02] <ikonia_> qmf just ask the question
[05:02] <mat1980>  !bluetooth > qmf
[05:02] <qmf> ikonia_: ok. bluez installed. bluetooth usb, plug it in. lsusb.. it just hangs until i unplug it
[05:03] <kofany> crdlb:  Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (can i check on exactly witch chipset is my card)?
[05:03] <qmf> mat1980: thanks, but i've already seen that.
[05:03] <ikonia_> qmf dongle or bus not supported.
[05:03] <ikonia_> qmf try rebooting with it in
[05:03] <ikonia_> qmf no udev rule ?
[05:03] <ikonia_> take your pick and start debugging
[05:03] <qmf> ikonia_: i've tried rebooting with it
[05:03] <crdlb> kofany: that's a sis integrated card, there are no good drivers for it
[05:03] <switch_> jrib: ubuntu password.
[05:04] <crdlb> if you are wanting to run compiz/beryl, it's not going to work
[05:04] <qmf> what's udev rule?
[05:04] <kofany> crdlb: so i can forgot about beryl on that?
[05:04] <ikonia_> qmf udev is the thing that creates device nodes
[05:04] <magnetron> this week i had to visit a homepage that had some info about my job. it required javascript, flash, shockwave and internet explorer. after reboot into xp and ie (which crashed when i first tried to enter the site) i found out that it used ALL THIS for displaying some plain text, some links and a few pdfs. HTML 3 can do that!
[05:04] <crdlb> kofany: yeah
[05:04] <micha--> hi, i am struggling to install 7.04 freshly on an old sony laptop. i got past the "copying files" stage, to "configuring target system". then, there was nothing going on for maybe two hours
[05:04] <jrib> switch_: ah, is there a "recovery mode" option when you boot?
[05:04] <cholera> is anyone familiar with ntfsfix?
[05:04] <jatt> magnetron: do you have the link of that homepage?
[05:05] <bokey> magnetron, just write to the webmaster. this is ubuntu
[05:05] <qmf> ikonia_: how would i make a udev rule?
[05:05] <micha--> now i want to make the system bootable and take it from there, so i have to figure out grub. is this unionfs-stuff in menu.lst supposed to be there?
[05:05] <magnetron> jatt, it requires a login. it's job related. but now i am way offtopic
[05:05] <switch_> jrib: not that i know of
[05:05] <ikonia_> qmf check the rules and see if one exists for your device. I suspect this is not theproblem but worth checking
[05:05] <kofany> crdlb: shit :) so i go to install my ubuntu on my winshit pc, bye bye windows :)
[05:05] <micha--> i just want to get to boot from harddisk, nothing fancy
[05:05] <qmf> ikonia_: what command?
[05:06] <crdlb> !ohmy | kofany
[05:06] <switch_> jrib: on to of it all the cd rom dose not work
[05:06] <micha--> root=/home/ubuntu/unionfs loos really strange
[05:06] <ikonia_> qmf vi
[05:06] <micha--> looks
[05:06] <ubotu> kofany: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:06] <micha--> as a boot option
[05:06] <jrib> switch_: ok, so a live cd would not work then?
[05:06] <cholera> if a drive is unclean, is it possible to force it to mount
[05:06] <crdlb> kofany: what graphics card does your windows pc have?
[05:06] <switch_> jrib: right
[05:06] <jrib> switch_: how did he install ubuntu?
[05:07] <switch_> jrib: It worked at the time
[05:07] <jrib> switch_: oh, and no other OS on the system?
[05:07] <Bakefy> Does anyone here use xampp?
[05:07] <switch_> jrib: when i put a live cd in you can hear it spinning but nothing happens.
[05:08] <switch_> jrib: no other OS on the book.
[05:08] <Bakefy> I have an ftp server set up, but its not letting me CHMOD through the FTP client
[05:09] <ikonia_> Bakefy do you have that option setup/allowed ?
[05:09] <magnetron> Bakefy: you can only chmod the files you own
[05:09] <qmf> ikonia_: pegasus was tripping over. reinstalled it and it worked fine.
[05:09] <kmaynard> Bakefy, what server
[05:09] <Bakefy> ikonia, does the ftp user need to won them?
[05:09] <xDCDx> is there a console image viewer that doesn't need an x server?
[05:09] <jrib> switch_: ok, I don't know anything about macs either... does the ibook use "yaboot" as the bootloader?
[05:10] <km> server irc.irc-hispano.org
[05:10] <kofany> crdlb:  ATI X1900XT 256MB 256bit PCI-E DDR3
[05:10] <Pici> xDCDx: Theres cacaview, its in the caca-utils package, but it draws the image with ascii art
[05:10] <switch_> yaboot
[05:10] <ikonia_> Bakefy yup
[05:10] <Bakefy> ikonia, I am using xampp.
[05:10] <crdlb> kofany: ugh that's not going to be fun
[05:10] <cholera> is this safe? mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/external -o force
[05:10] <kofany> crdlb: why? no drivers as well?
[05:10] <ikonia_> Bakefy what does that matter ??
[05:10] <crdlb> kofany: ati's proprietary drivers suck
[05:11] <crdlb> nvidia's are far better
[05:11] <Bakefy> ikonia, its using ProFTPD
[05:11] <jrib> switch_: are you familiar with the "init=/bin/sh" trick?
[05:11] <ikonia_> Bakefy again what does that matter ?
[05:11] <chazis> Lut
[05:11] <crdlb> kofany: it can be done, basically, you enable the restricted driver, reboot, hope it works, then set up Xgl
[05:11] <Bakefy> ikonia, I thought you wanted to know... oops that was someone else
[05:12] <aeonix> how do i know if a progem is suported in Wine?
[05:12] <switch_> jrib: no...
[05:12] <robinsjostrom> strabes: im back
[05:12] <kofany> crdlb: i have somwhere old GF 7300GS 128MB 64Bit PCI-E will be better ?
[05:12] <cholera> will mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/external -o force cause any data loss if this drive is unclean
[05:12] <ikonia_> Bakefy I asked if you had enabled the allowing of chmod onin the ftp server config
[05:12] <crdlb> kofany: absolutely
[05:12] <Bakefy> kmaynard, I am using xampp and that uses proFTPD
[05:12] <magnetron> aeonix: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:12] <crdlb> kofany: that's old?
[05:12] <kmaynard> Bakefy, look into having the ftp server chmod them for you. i do that with vsftpd
[05:13] <chazis> pas de francais ?
[05:13] <Bakefy> ikonia, I don't know how to even do that.  I need to research how to use ProFTPD
[05:13] <kofany> crdlb: old for me coz im not using this at the moment ;] 
[05:13] <ikonia_> Bakefy yes you do
[05:13] <cholera> aenix: have you checked the websire
[05:13] <magnetron> !fr | chazis
[05:13] <kevor> The installation program of 7.04 didn't add a user, can i just add a user to /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow?
[05:13] <ubotu> chazis: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:13] <jrib> switch_: well in grub you are able to edit entries and pass extra kernel parameters.  If you pass "init=/bin/sh" to it, you will end up with a shell you can use to edit things on your system.  The only issue is figuring out how to do that in yaboot
[05:13] <cholera> aeonix: I think the website has a list
[05:13] <kofany> crdlb: do You now a good widget pack ?
[05:14] <cholera> will mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/external -o force cause any data loss if this drive is unclean
 thank you
[05:14] <cholera> aeonix: np
[05:14] <chazis> ok merci ubotu
[05:14] <ikonia_> cholera the ntfs-3g package is experimental - use at your own risk
[05:15] <kofany> xchat making me dizzy  i going to install irssi ;) brb
[05:15] <switch_> jrib: ok well that is a start
[05:15] <Bender> is there anyone here competent in wine ?
[05:15] <cholera> ikonia: it says it's stable now, no?
[05:15] <magnetron> !wine | Bender
[05:15] <Solver> cholera: consider dding the FS and playing with that
[05:15] <ubotu> Bender: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:15] <ikonia_> cholera I don't believe so
[05:15] <LonerTech> some idiots say wine is an emulator lol
[05:16] <Solver> cholera: if the data is very important and/or you have no backup you probably want to do this
[05:16] <cholera> Solver: no choice, it needs chkdsk but I don't have access to windows, Trying to force mount so I can run ntfsfix
[05:17] <Solver> cholera: you know what I mean by dding the filesystem?
[05:17] <Bender> why can't i manipulate the windows i start the program in ?
[05:17] <jrib> switch_: have you tried holding down the option key when it boots?
[05:17] <cholera> Solver: no, one track mind here :)
[05:17] <Solver> cholera: you can make a FS image and work on that like a real FS
[05:17] <kofany> re
[05:17] <Bender> i can't e.g. close, move or resize
[05:17] <Solver> cholera: it is safer if there is a risk of corruption.  if you have the space you can take 2 copies - keep 1 as a prestime copy and work on the other
[05:17] <aeonix> ok i went to the Wine site and Wine does suprot the game
[05:18] <aeonix> but i cant get it to work
[05:18] <crdlb> kofany: for gnome, either gdesklets or adesklets
[05:18] <sparr> when i start vncviewer in FullScreen mode, how do i close it or switch out of it?
[05:18] <ikonia_> aeonix join #winehq - better support in there
[05:18] <neverblue> ok crdlb what part of the xorg.conf handles the "dual" enabling?
[05:18] <Solver> cholera: I'm pretty busy right now but lots of people here could help you with dding the FS
[05:18] <cholera> Solver: no offense but sounds complicated, I'm still new to linux
[05:18] <variant> magnetron: there is nothing wrong with javascript when done correctly and the only thing really wrong with flash is that it's proprietry
[05:18] <kofany> crdlb: i have gdesklets i try to adesklets now ;-] 
[05:18] <Solver> cholera: We can talk you through it
[05:18] <neverblue> Xinerama?
[05:18] <Solver> cholera: It's your call but it gives you a safety net
[05:18] <cholera> Solver: you have a llink on information
[05:19] <crdlb> kofany: superkaramba is a very popular choice, but it is designed for kde
[05:19] <Nanu> hello all ,, my linux goes very slow when i keep it running for long time... cuz the memory become 90% used and the swap 50% used
[05:19] <switch_> jrib: no what happens when you do that?
[05:19] <crdlb> neverblue: the ServerLayout section
[05:19] <ikonia_> Nanu sound like something you are doing has a memory leak
[05:19] <crdlb> with the Screen1 rightof Screen0 thing
[05:19] <cholera> Solver: sounds like what I need,
[05:19] <jrib> switch_: I don't know, nothing bad will happen but I know that that shows me a partition menu on a mac at work
[05:19] <Solver> cholera: I can't see a howto on line but there is a quick rundown
[05:19] <switch_> ah
[05:20] <Solver> cholera: say your device is /dev/sda1
[05:20] <cholera> Solver: it is
[05:20] <dan__> Anyone know how I can get Hipo to work? sudo apt-get install hipo doesn't work.
[05:20] <Solver> cholera: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=~/ntfs.img
[05:20] <neverblue> crdlb, so if i am not seeing the other screen (the onboard card), is it because I am mixing cards? (intel and ati) or something else?
[05:20] <Solver> cholera: there are a lot of options to dd but that'll give you an ntfs filesystem. you can then mount the image loopback, eg...
[05:20] <dmhouse> Hey there. I'd quite like to get the 'Workspaces on a cube' desktop effect working. I click System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects, Enable Desktop Effects and check the appropriate checkbox. However, all this seems to do is to only give me a single workspace. Adding more works, but switching between them doesn't get me the nice cubey effect.
[05:20] <Solver> cholera: mount -o loop ./ntfs.img /mnt
[05:21] <kofany> crdlb: i have ubuntu, hm i just start my adventure with linux and i fall in love in this system :)
[05:21] <kofany> no more windows ;] 
[05:21] <dromer> hmm, since the upgrade my ssh seems to be very slow, also, synergy over ssh seems not to work atm, I can't connect to my left pc
[05:21] <Solver> cholera: if you can keep 2 copies of the image.  if you kil the one you are trying to recover you can copy a fresh one from the pristine copy - if that makes sense
[05:21] <jo__> is here any german channel?
[05:21] <Bender> dmhouse you should install beryl
[05:21] <infidel> anyone know of a linux version of myspace messenger?
[05:21] <dan__> Can anyone help with my iPod problem? What is the best software to use for an iPod and Ubuntu?
[05:22] <neverblue> sorry crdlb ill come to the other channel
[05:22] <Nanu> ikonia_ maybe the time has a memory leak
[05:22] <dmhouse> Bender: what does it do?
[05:22] <Solver> cholera: you need a lot of disk space for this as the image will be as large as the filesystem you are copying.  there are ways of reducing this but let's keep things simple
[05:22] <kofany> infidel: on witch protocol this is work ?
[05:22] <peepsalot> does anyone know how to make programs stop stealing focus?
[05:22] <Solver> cholera: you can dd across the network if you need to - eg, to a box with a bigger disk
[05:22] <infidel> kofany, i don't know
[05:22] <Bender> it makes your desktop look like a cube
[05:22] <jrib> switch_: here's some docs that give some good hints, http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml/ch9.en.shtml#s9.2 http://www.nabble.com/yaboot-howto-specify-runlevel-t477949.html https://www.intevation.de/~bernhard/ppc/titanium_installation/base_system.html .  Search for "yaboot prompt" in that last one
[05:22] <Solver> cholera: this sort of thing is the power of Unix :)
[05:22] <kofany> infidel: w8
[05:23] <cholera> Solver: 1485793+0 records in
[05:23] <cholera> 1485792+0 records out
[05:23] <cholera> 760725504 bytes (761 MB) copied, 34.9212 seconds, 21.8 MB/s
[05:23] <cholera> sorry
[05:23] <sanityx> Is there any difference between what apt-get autoremove removes, and what deborphan shows?
[05:23] <Solver> cholera: that looks good
[05:23] <Solver> cholera: now try a mount.
[05:23] <sanityx> Yes thre is. Why is that?
[05:24] <Solver> cholera: mount -o loop ~/ntfs.img /mnt  (or wherever you want to put it)
[05:24] <cholera> Solver: I also have this mount -o loop ./ntfs.img/mnt
[05:24] <Solver> cholera: spacing problem in the line you posted
[05:24] <dan__> cholera: what is a good program for using an ipod on ubuntu?
[05:24] <tito_> dan__: Rhythymbox
[05:25] <Alam_Ubuntu> gtkpod
[05:25] <cholera> amarok
[05:25] <cholera> Solver: I think I have a prob
[05:25] <Solver> cholera: what prob?
[05:25] <dan__> Alam_Ubuntu: is gtkpod a program itself?
[05:25] <Solver> cholera: error message?
[05:25] <tito_> dan__: yes it is
[05:25] <switch_> jrib: well it just showed me the drive
[05:25] <jovan> I feel like I'm not getting anywhere with ubuntu, every new territory cripple my computer, first I had to install 4 times before I could complete install unburu, and now when I want the resolution of 1440x900 and try installing better drivers(cause the others made a 10th of the screen flicker), the ubuntu is blank after start up, just a black screen
[05:25] <dan__> tito: ok
[05:26] <Alam_Ubuntu> dan__, yes
[05:26] <cholera> Solver; I inadvertently ran the command twice. I have output for for different commands that don;t match, basically the records in and records out
[05:26] <kofany> infidel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184223
[05:26] <dan__> tito: how do i install it? sudo apt isn't workin
[05:26] <Solver> cholera: which command did you run twice?
[05:26] <Solver> cholera: dd ?
[05:27] <cholera> Solver:  dd if=/dev/sda1 of=~/ntfs.img
[05:27] <infidel> kofany, thanks
[05:27] <Solver> cholera: it is odd if the dd results don't match.  may just be a symptom of your FS problems.  but since you now have an ntfs.img i suggesting copying it and then proceeding to mount
[05:27] <cholera> Solver: 1st run (761 MB) 2nd run 2.9 GB)
[05:28] <dan__> tito: how do i get gtkpod?
[05:28] <Solver> cholera: was the first one interrupted?
[05:28] <dan__> tito: do i have to make it?
[05:28] <Solver> cholera: I suggest taking another dd image to a new filename
[05:28] <rbs-tito> dan__: It's in the repositories
[05:28] <dan__> rbs-tito, hm? sorry =S still kind of a noob with ubuntu.
[05:28] <jrib> switch_: ok, if there are no obvious options there then checkout the docs I linked
[05:29] <cholera> Sover: yes, sorry, when you mentioned the entire contents would be copied.....it's 300GB drive
[05:29] <Solver> cholera: how big the FS supposed to be?
[05:29] <rbs-tito> dan__: System > administration > synaptic. Search gtkpod, mark it, click apply
[05:29] <Solver> cholera: ok, dd can exit if it hits too many errors
[05:29] <Solver> cholera: there is a tool called "ddrescue" meant specifically for rescues like this
[05:29] <bensherman> Hi all!  Where is the magic located that tell me that a package isn't installed at my bash prompt
[05:29] <dan__> rbs-tito: ah, okay. thanks.
[05:30] <Solver> cholera: I'm going to be in and out of channel today but ppl around here will be able to help you.
[05:30] <rbs-tito> bensherman: Synaptic will tell you packages
[05:30] <cholera> Solver: where exactly is this new image? placed in root
[05:30] <Solver> cholera: if you are having errors that it may be worth trying ddrescue.  basically it is a version of dd that is more accepting of errors
[05:30] <switch_> jrib: Thanks I will see what I can do
[05:30] <cholera> Solver: okay
[05:30] <Solver> cholera: the image sits within the file, so wherever you put it.  eg, ~/ntfs.img would be in your home dir
[05:31] <dan__> rbs-tito: i cant find it...is it under the name of gktpod?
[05:31] <Solver> cholera: you know ~ means your home dir?
[05:31] <cholera> Solver: okay, I asked too soon
[05:31] <Parmenion> hey guys
[05:31] <Solver> cholera: :)
[05:31] <mcphail> bensherman: apt-cache policy packagename
[05:31] <cholera> Solver: everythng was going so fast I just copied and pasted
[05:31] <Parmenion> what are the minimum specs for xubuntu ?
[05:31] <jrib> switch_: try again later if you can't get it, there are bound to be some ppc users around
[05:31] <rbs-tito> dan__: gtkpod
[05:31] <Solver> cholera: I gotta go but I hope this gives you a start on the types of things you can do to recover a filesystem under Linux.  The key is to keep a backup of the image if you can
[05:32] <dromer> hmm, quicksynergy says synergys is active .. however, I'm running it over ssh with the client running on localhost with: $ ssh -f -N -L 24800:<server>:24800 <server>
[05:32] <void^> bensherman: /etc/bash_command_not_found
[05:32] <kofany> crdlb: i type now adesklets from console and nothing, this dont have gui?
[05:32] <bensherman> void^: thanks
[05:32] <__ew__> Hey everyone.
[05:32] <dromer> it worked perfectly before
[05:32] <cholera> Solver: will do, thanks again for you help
[05:32] <luddit1> hey all - if you ever have a connection reset error constantly on your first attempt to connect to the net. then simply remove openswan from synaptic
[05:32] <dromer> upgraded this week and now ssh to this box seems very slow ..
[05:32] <Solver> cholera: NP.  I'll pop in later.  cya
[05:32] <Parmenion> guys, what are the minimum specs for the xubuntu-desktop package ?
[05:32] <crdlb> kofany: I've never used them
[05:32] <luddit1> a computer is min
[05:32] <dan__> rbs-tito: ohhhh, found it. lol
[05:33] <Parmenion> specifically ram
[05:33] <ffm> Is there a way I can make my SSH more secure?
[05:33] <luddit1> 1GB ram
[05:33] <dromer> Parmenion: I think all ubuntu is 265mb nowadays
[05:33] <luddit1> i have 2GB and its good
[05:33] <__ew__> I just got a spanking over a hackish fix I posted to a Feisty bug report:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.5/+bug/107525
[05:33] <aubade> Parmenion: You could manage on 256M.
[05:33] <kitche> Parmenion: 128 mb can run xfce
[05:34] <kitche> Parmenion: and even lower really 64 megs about
[05:34] <Parmenion> dromer: damn ... ive only got 128 mb on my soon to be mother's box
[05:34] <dromer> luddit1: xubuntu is more minimal than gnome/kde isn't it?
[05:34] <luddit1> i think you need at least 1GB to do anything fast
[05:34] <aubade> Yeah, dromer.
[05:34] <dromer> Parmenion: try it, xfce is for slow machines
[05:34] <rbs-tito> dromer: It is more lightweight, still looks nice.
[05:34] <Mortuis> I'm trying to get bitlbee to work.  When I run the program the first thing that pops up is: ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/.
[05:34] <dromer> Parmenion: there some other good low-tech wm's out there
[05:34] <Parmenion> kitche: thanks =) need to setup my mother's new ubuntu box
[05:34] <Mortuis> Would it be stupid to change the permissions on that folder?
[05:34] <void^> ffm: look into fail2ban if you get a lot of login attempts (or just use a different port)
[05:34] <luddit1> ram is cheap - install as much as you can
[05:35] <dromer> so can anyone here help me get synergy back online?
[05:35] <Mortuis> Or should I redirect bitlbee to a folder in /home or something?
[05:35] <Parmenion> dromer: it needs to be somewhat windows looking :P which is kinda hard
[05:35] <dromer> doesn't seem to work :/  I'll try running it back normally again (without ssh I mean)
[05:35] <Parmenion> thats why i hesitated to download xubuntu
[05:35] <__ew__> In it, Matthias suggests that I use 'feisty-proposed' - I'd never heard of it before and didn't see it in my searching for a solution to the problem (or didn't recognize that feisty-proposed was a package source)
[05:35] <kitche> Parmenion: you cna always install icewm it looks window-ish
[05:35] <_3oo3> hi ive got a pentium 1 system with 200 mhz and 32 MB ram...would ubuntu run on my system?
[05:35] <ffm> void^: I use somthing like that already.denyhosts
[05:36] <ffm> void^: I use somthing like that already.denyhosts does the same thing.
[05:36] <Parmenion> kitche: thanks =) ill go test it out once the current package finishes
[05:36] <kitche> __ew__: *-propsed is usually bug fixes and other packages
[05:36] <Zedfloyd> seems like im always entering passwords for everything in ubuntu...
[05:36] <Zedfloyd> is there a way to enter just one on the boot?
[05:36] <dromer> Parmenion: ha .. hmm just get lots of good programs, only thing "typicall"-M$ is the taskbar, fix one with a good taskbar and you could choose pretty much any of em ;) (though fvwm or blackbox might not work that well for her ;) )
[05:36] <tarzeau> does someone have the sources/configs of whatever creates popcon.ubuntu.com ?
[05:36] <void^> _3oo3: well, you can install the server version, and you can probably get some sort of gui running without too much pain (fluxbox)
[05:36] <__ew__> Question: Where can I find out more about what types of package sources are available?  Googling for 'feisty-proposed' turned up a lot of package lists, but not much else.
[05:37] <_3oo3> Zedfloyd: log in as root
[05:37] <dromer> Parmenion: what is she used to on that box? win95/8 ?
[05:37] <Zedfloyd> how do i do that?
[05:37] <Parmenion> dromer: thanks , currently d/ling xubuntu-desktop package
[05:37] <_3oo3> void^: HA!  the guys in slackware were right.  Ubuntu wouldn't run for *shit* on a box like that.  HAHAHAHAHAHA "FAIL"
[05:37] <Parmenion> she's used to using Win ME :P
[05:37] <kritzstapf> Zedfloyd: im not entering my password at all ;)
[05:37] <hobo> hi, when i try to start up, it says my partition is read only and fails. how do i fix things so it works?
[05:37] <kofany> where i can find widgets for adesklet?
[05:38] <Zedfloyd> kritztpf, how do i set it up like that?
[05:38] <dromer> ok, have fun, haven't tried xfce in a long time, maybe I'll install it :) (see how it is with beryl too, haven't tried gnome in beryl yet -> kde-guy)
[05:38] <void^> _3oo3: eh? try slackware with gnome and all the useless stuff a default ubuntu install pulls in on that box :] 
[05:38] <ffm> If i want to run a server on an old box, what OS shoudld I use? I have heard ubuntu does not work well on older machines...
[05:38] <Trixsey> I started TeamSpeak on my comp and when I try to turn it off it doesnt work.. I need to know the process ID to kill it right.. and I dont know it.. what do I do?
[05:38] <Trixsey> :P
[05:38] <Danaman5> if I repartition my hard drive during set up, will it delete everything on my harddrive, or can I set up a dual boot system this way?
[05:38] <_3oo3> void^: no shit...i can't figure out why ubuntu is so hot, honestly
[05:38] <Zedfloyd> anyhelp?
[05:38] <kitche> !ohmy | _3oo3 just doing it before an op steps in
[05:38] <ubotu> _3oo3 just doing it before an op steps in: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:38] <_3oo3> Zedfloyd: I just told you how to resolve your problem.
[05:38] <Parmenion> dromer: it sucks too bad to even dream of running beryl :P id be happy if she would accept linux
[05:38] <rbs-tito> ffm: Ubuntu server edition runs fine on old machines
[05:38] <dromer> _3oo3: if you have a bok like that you could try an ubuntu-server install and work it up with low-X programs ;)
[05:39] <atarinox> can somebody recommend a nice lightweight paint app?
[05:39] <rbs-tito> ffm: Though personally, I think Debian is the better server OS
[05:39] <Parmenion> dromer: i accidentally hosed her windows install ...thank god i backed up her data
[05:39] <void^> _3oo3: it's as hot as any other hype
[05:39] <ffm> rbs-tito: What is its minimum requirements? And isnt ubuntu Debian based?
[05:39] <dromer> Parmenion: what windohs-version is she 'used' to ?
[05:39] <Parmenion> thats why im a little scared
[05:39] <_3oo3> void^: thats not the case...ubuntu is one of the biggest linux distros
[05:39] <Parmenion> dromer: Windows ME =)
[05:39] <Zedfloyd> 3003: i dont know how to log in as root
[05:39] <dromer> Parmenion: can you give more specs on the pc?
[05:39] <_3oo3> and I can't figure out why
[05:39] <Danaman5> can anyone answer my question about partitions?
[05:39] <Zedfloyd> im a newbie here
[05:39] <_3oo3> Zedfloyd: then you shouldn't be on a linux system.
[05:39] <kitche> !sudo > Zedfloyd
[05:39] <dromer> Parmenion: gah, ok, 98 with more options :P
[05:40] <rbs-tito> ffm: It is text only, so anything should run it. Ubuntu is Debian based, but Debian is built on a solid server foundation. Very mature and dependable OS
[05:40] <jaze> hi all please can somebody help me with connecting phone by bluetooth on Feisty Fawn? any link will be useful!
[05:40] <void^> _3oo3: well, that's simple: it's like debian with some added benefits for lazy folks ;)
[05:40] <dromer> :] 
[05:40] <Parmenion> dromer: its an old P3 with 128 megs and a 30 or 40 gig hdd. no wireless or anything fancy
[05:40] <Zedfloyd> thanks kitche!
[05:40] <dromer> and steady/frequent stable-releases \o/
[05:40] <Parmenion> forgot the exact clock speed
[05:40] <_3oo3> void^: what blows me away is the superfluous security options...theres no reason to have sudo at al
[05:40] <_3oo3> all*
[05:41] <void^> _3oo3: it's targeted at simple users, so sudo is a slightly better choice (eliminating the need for 2 passwords)
[05:41] <Jay2> i wanted to set up a s/w raid 1 during install, but the partitioner step doesnt present that option, installed dmraid package for software raid based on the MOBO chipset using feisty. any ideas?
[05:41] <dromer> Parmenion: ok, I got a pIII in my kitchen for htpc (home theater-pc) purposes, though it has yull kde-desktop now when I upgraded :P it has 512-mb ram though, which speeds lots of stuff up, it's ~700mhz btw
[05:42] <aeonix> how do i get a Windows XP theme. that contains a .msstyles file.
[05:42] <jaze> hi all please can somebody help me with connecting phone by bluetooth on Feisty Fawn? any link will be useful!
[05:42] <_3oo3> void^: and this makes sense to you?  that they should compromise a system that's entire purpose is security so that low end users can use it for things it wasn't designed to do? :P
[05:42] <Danaman5> if I repartition my hard drive during set up, will it delete everything on my harddrive, or can I set up a dual boot system this way?
[05:42] <Parmenion> dromer: mines definitely above 1ghz ... I just need my mother to accept the install without too much fuss :P
[05:43] <dromer> < _3oo3> Zedfloyd: then you shouldn't be on a linux system. << don't scare off newcomers dude, embrace their interest in linux :)
[05:43] <xugongsheng> hi
[05:43] <Parmenion> i chose ubuntu because it seemed the most end-user friendly with tonnes of community support
[05:43] <dromer> Parmenion: ok, get more ram!
[05:43] <Zedfloyd> thanks dromer
[05:43] <dromer> I still feel like a newcomer myself actually :$
[05:43] <dromer> almost 1 year linux-user
[05:44] <ffm> How do I delete a file in bash?
[05:44] <Parmenion> dromer: not really worth it ... I think we would need to get a new desktop or laptop soon
[05:44] <void^> _3oo3: it's no huge compromise. as long as people don't use passwords that are easy to guess. at least it makes people accept the idea of not being the omnipotent superuser at all times.
[05:44] <dromer> at least half a year on the desktop ;)
[05:44] <Parmenion> ffm rm
[05:44] <ffm> Parmenion: Thanks.
[05:44] <kritzstapf> Zedfloyd: the login can be automated in the login settings and the password questioning for sudoing can be disabled with a new entry in /etc/sudoers
[05:44] <variant> ffm: rm /path/to/file
[05:44] <variant> ffm: rmdir to remove a dir, rm -rf to remove a non empty dir (be carefull)
[05:44] <peepsalot> does anyone know how to make programs stop stealing focus?
[05:44] <dromer> Parmenion: afcourse it is ! my "htpc" is running fulldesktop kde atm, and I can run even stuff like google-earth fine (not TOO fast, but it runs :) )
[05:45] <ffm> variant: Thanks.
[05:45] <gh0st> hey, has anybody got a JOOST invite for me? thanks
[05:45] <dromer> Parmenion: only got a GeForce2 16mb video-card (but nvidia, which rocks ;) )
[05:45] <Zedfloyd> im reading about rootsudo now
[05:45] <Zedfloyd> thanks!
[05:45] <jaze> man please any link for bluetooth management. have no idea at all how to get it work
[05:45] <dromer> !bluetooth
[05:45] <Parmenion> dromer: standard intel for me over here ... those days, i wasnt in the position to decide hardware purchases
[05:46] <kritzstapf> Zedfloyd: "username ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" is the line you need
[05:46] <variant> Parmenion: go with xubuntu, kde or gnome will be a bit tedious if you try to do more than one application at a time (firefox and skype for example, skype is a real hog)
[05:46] <dromer> Parmenion: well, more ram is feasible right? my box is not much, but I can do lots of stuff on it in X ! :)
[05:46] <Zedfloyd> that seems easy
[05:46] <gary> Is there a program in linux that can count lines in files?  like, du -h for file size, is there one that recursivelly calculates lines and tells you the total?
[05:46] <Zedfloyd> thanks you kritzstapf!
[05:46] <Parmenion> variant: yeah :P currently downloading xubuntu-desktop package
[05:46] <Zedfloyd> thank you, that is
[05:46] <dromer> Parmenion: yours with more ram could do everything you want, what kind of apps is your mother 'dependend' on and _needs_ to have on her pc?
[05:46] <kritzstapf> Zedfloyd: youre welcome ;)
[05:47] <Parmenion> dromer: i know, but its really too much of a hassle to get my mother to buy anything related to a computer
[05:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:47] <variant> gary: type "man wc"
[05:47] <dromer> gary: I think this a standard feature in the shell, not sure how though
[05:47] <variant> gary: wc -l filename to count lines
[05:47] <Parmenion> dromer: MS Word, Firefox :P
[05:47] <gary> thanks!
[05:47] <dromer> Parmenion: sponsor some for her than, that kind of ram can be get for free ;)
[05:48] <Mike_F> hello: I have a drupal /fiesty question
[05:48] <dromer> Parmenion: get ram, problem solved ;) .. or what was your problem again? aah, xfce .. well good luck with picking one :) I ersonally like KDE, looks really good and 'similar' enough like MS-stuff
[05:48] <aeonix> how do i open a program in Wine
[05:48] <dromer> aeonix: $ wine <path to program>
[05:48] <variant> dromer: that is not the reccomended way to run wine
[05:49] <Parmenion> dromer: im only 15+ :P and im already saving for a new earpiece for my mp3 player =) Id wait for a bit more time before i cast out the idea for more ram ... she isnt going to be happy with me for hosing her windows install
[05:49] <dromer> aeonix: though theres ofcourse more to it depending on the needs of the program, I don't have too much knowledge of wine though
[05:49] <variant> dromer: as it won't set up files and paths correctly for some programs
 ahh ok thank you
[05:49] <variant> dromer: either run it from the application directory or run it with a windows path like this wine C:\\path\\to\\prog.exe
[05:49] <dromer> variant: ok, sorry, I'm not too experienced with wine, you explain it to aeonix ;)
[05:50] <Parmenion> variant: should i remove the ubuntu-desktop package once ive installed xubuntu-desktop ?
[05:50] <variant> aeonix: see what i just told dromer there, best to follow those rules if you want to ensure best performance
[05:50] <variant> Parmenion: no idea
[05:50] <Parmenion> or should i just leave it the way it is
[05:50] <aimaz> how do i remove totem? It seems reluctant to leave http://www.newspeak.org.uk/img/remove%20totem.png
[05:50] <Parmenion> ok cool =) thanks
[05:50] <crdlb> Parmenion: you can just leave it
[05:50] <wims> I played a bit around with my partitions, and now i cannot boot ubuntu, grub gives me error 17 (filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB). I can however mount all my partitions with a rescue disk, all the data is there as far as i can see, but reinstalling grub does fix it. Anyone have an idea of what i can do to fix it ?
[05:51] <Parmenion> crdlb: ok ... but im worried it would be a little too cluttered XD thats all :P
[05:51] <Julius> hi
 im trying $ wine c:\program files\Tales of Pirates Online\top.exe and it says wine: cannot find 'c:program'
[05:52] <ikonia_> aeonix you need escape chars for spaces
[05:52] <ikonia_> "program files" not program files
[05:52] <Parmenion> aeonix: use C:\program_files
[05:52] <ikonia_> or program\ files
[05:52] <Julius> some1 know where i can find a net ops ? i'd like to drop my pseudo (julius doesn't belong to me but the last seen is more than 2 years)
[05:52] <Parmenion> it should work :P what ikonia said aeonix =)
[05:52] <DjViper> aeonix: wine c:\program /files\Tales of Pirates Online\top.exe
[05:52] <DjViper> or so
[05:52] <wims> its backslash space
[05:52] <DjViper> add more as needed
[05:52] <DjViper> ok
[05:53] <ikonia_> wims well spotted
[05:54] <StoneNote> to get into my .wine directory from / I'd use the command "cd /home/StoneNote/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/"  Notice the "\ " after "Program" to represent the space
[05:55] <zorro123> hello
[05:55] <kitche> you can do "Program Files" also in quotes but I tend to escape the space
[05:55] <aeonix> i just tryed to reinstall the program and i got a wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\top_setup_1.33_ob.exe": Module not found
[05:55] <zorro123> i have preoblem with a device connected to a serial port an parallel port too
[05:55] <ikonia_> aeonix why 2 slashes \\ ??
 i dont know thats what the temiol said
[05:56] <kitche> ikonia_: that's how windows does it in linux
[05:57] <zorro123> when i start the device and the pc seems to be stopped
[05:57] <variant> DjViper: sorry, you are slightly incorrect, unless the wine directory is added to the $PATH then you need (should) run wine programs like so: wine c:\\myapps\\foo.exe
[05:57] <ikonia_> kitche so thats not user input, thats OS output
[05:57] <kitche> ikonia_: the first \ is for escape for the second slash
[05:58] <variant> ikonia_: thats the way to do it with wine (to be sure that it will work as best it can)
[05:58] <aeonix> i am so lost with all this wine talk the thing is i just updated Wine before i did i was fine LOL but now it seemed to change the settings and i dont know how to fix it
[05:58] <Trixsey> I started TeamSpeak on my comp and when I try to turn it off it doesnt work.. I need to know the process ID to kill it right.. and I dont know it.. what do I do?
[05:59] <Trixsey> How do I turn off a program whose process id or name I don't know?
[05:59] <rbs-tito> Trixsey: Find it by running the command "top"
[06:00] <variant> aeonix: just don't run windows applications with the unix path, for example do NOT run them like this: wine /home/username/solitair.exe
[06:00] <crdlb> Trixsey: you can tabcomplete with killall
[06:00] <infidel> Trixsey, or try ps -auxx
[06:00] <aeonix> variant then how
[06:01] <mats> I have a problem with my sound card, it's not working at all. It's an ATI SB 450 anyone knows something about this?
[06:01] <variant> aeonix: see this link: http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wineusr-guide/running-wine
[06:02] <Intangir> how can i edit a pdf file on linux?
[06:02] <iamtexture> create one or edit one?
[06:02] <jpjacobs> Intangir, take a look at pdftk and pdfjam
[06:03] <mats> to edit pdf http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/pdfedit
[06:03] <iamtexture> i created a swap partition after install, how to i configure it to actually work?
[06:03] <Intangir> iamtexture: edit, i only need to change some text on a form
[06:04] <mats> try pdfedit it's ok fot that
[06:04] <Jarekb84> Hello all, I've just dived into ubuntu this morning and notice the system being a bit sluggish. CPU often running at 70% or more and response time for applications being sluggish. Any idea's on what I can do to remedy this? I thought about installing new nvidia drivers
[06:04] <Julius> nalioth - PhilKC - are u there ?
[06:05] <knix_> is it possible to authenticate to ADS on ubuntu?
[06:05] <Julius> Or maybe Madkiss, LoRez , christel  ?
[06:05] <Mishaal> Does Ubuntu work well with Bluetooth connection ??
[06:07] <kayef> i'm using an Acer laptop, how do i disable the built in soundcard?cant find the option in bios
[06:08] <Bibagi> can u any 1 tell me about amsn ? is that good, stabel ? ?
[06:08] <neil__> hi, if I give a UUID, can someone please help me mount it into a live session?
[06:09] <Parmenion> guys .. OO.Ois really too bloated ... anyone has any other alternatives to ms word on linux
[06:09] <aeonix> ok then how do i open a program in wine that i just downloaded and it is on my desk top
[06:09] <myr> parmenion: try abiword
[06:09] <Bibagi> Parmenion openoffice.org
[06:10] <Parmenion> Bibagi: OO.O is openoffice.org :P
[06:10] <arie-rsa> Hey anyone have some expiernve setting up a multi user system?
[06:10] <Parmenion> myr: thanks, ill look into it
[06:10] <marco_linux> hello everybody!
[06:10] <SlimeyPete> hi
[06:10] <neil__> hi, if I give a UUID, can someone please help me mount it into a live session?
[06:10] <Bibagi> can u any 1 tell me about amsn ? is that good, stabel ? ?
[06:10] <SlimeyPete> Parmenion: AbiWord's OK
[06:11] <crdlb> !anyone | arie-rsa
[06:11] <ubotu> arie-rsa: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:11] <Parmenion> ok cool
[06:11] <arie-rsa> crdlb thanks for the bible prayer.. now read my sentence before u go all uber
[06:11] <rbs-tito> Bibagi: It is good for webcam
[06:11] <Baco1> Hey I need some help with my laptop wireless
[06:12] <rbs-tito> Baco1: OK, what chipset is it?
[06:12] <mrj> whats the console command for running sth as different user?
[06:12] <Mishaal> is it INTEL wireless Baco1 ?
[06:12] <wims> I played a bit around with my partitions (basically removed two partitions not related to my linux installation), and now i cannot boot ubuntu, grub gives me error 17 (filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB). I can however mount all my partitions with a rescue disk, all the data is there as far as i can see, but reinstalling grub does fix it. Anyone have an idea of what i can do to fix it ?
[06:12] <Baco1> no idea, standards broadcom 802.11b/g from HP laptops
[06:12] <marco_linux> Does anybody know how to configure Evolution to receive and send emails from an hotmail account?
[06:12] <Baco1> through iwconfig, it says "Broadcom 4311"
[06:13] <neil__> someone who knows fstab please help me, my root partition is mounted as read only, and i'm trying to fix it in a live session
[06:13] <SubOne> How do I active the "Kubuntu Distribution Upgrade Tool", I'm following this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php but it is not working. Using Kubuntu.
[06:13] <SlimeyPete> wims: if the partition order has changed, grub may be looking at the wrong partition. The "boot hd(x,x)" option sets this.
[06:13] <myr> marco_linux, does hotmail allow pop access?
[06:13] <myr> marco_linux, i suspect it doesn't
[06:14] <Baco1> I know my ESSID
[06:14] <Baco1> thats about it
[06:14] <marco_linux> I don't think so!
[06:14] <Parmenion> myr: nope... not anymore
[06:14] <wims> SlimeyPete ok, what exactly is specified in the hd(x.x) parameter? is that the location of my boot partition, my root partition or what?
[06:14] <livingdaylight> Julius, was loss?
[06:14] <rbs-tito> Baco1: Use NDISwrapper
[06:14] <ROnewbi2> hi; i've installed freeciv 2.1 from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399516&highlight=freeciv) and it won't work; any help ? the latest attempt at (re)installing the package gave me an error message with something about "broken pipe" ...
[06:14] <Baco1> do i have to download it?
[06:14] <marco_linux> but my account is very old! It was working on the Outlook.
[06:14] <SlimeyPete> wims: if you've got a boot partition then it'll be that, yes... otherwise it'll be the root partition. Basically it's whichever partition grub is supposed to boot Linux from.
[06:15] <wims> SlimeyPete right, thanks. I'll check it out
[06:15] <elumbella> hmpf
[06:15] <kwah> Does anyone know how to change mount options for automounted devices???
[06:15] <neil__> can some1 send me their /ect/fstab then please?
[06:15] <Baco1> How do I initiate NDISWrapper?
[06:15] <switch_> jrib: Ok i am in the mac but I am not sure what to do. passwd is not an option
[06:15] <rbs-tito> Baco1: Do you have the windows driver CD?
[06:16] <Baco1> Nope
[06:16] <Parmenion> Baco1: moddprobe ndiswrapper
[06:16] <awpti> howdy everyone.
[06:16] <jrib> switch_: you managed to do the "init=/bin/sh" thing and get a shell?
[06:16] <neil__> can some1 send me their /etc/fstab? I'm trying to figure out how to change my fstab file from a live session and it's not working, i need an example
[06:16] <Parmenion> Baco1: ndiswrapper -m i believe as well
[06:16] <ROnewbi2> !gaming | ronewbie
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <rbs-tito> Baco1: No worries. Install NDISwrapper first
[06:16] <Baco1> from where rbs?
[06:17] <Baco1> im a little new
[06:17] <awpti> !gaming | awpti
[06:17] <rbs-tito> Baco1: Can you talk in the private chat I just initiated?
[06:17] <Parmenion> bb later
[06:17] <crdlb> !msgthebot | ROnewbi2
[06:17] <ubotu> ROnewbi2: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:17] <Baco1> Got it rbs-tito
[06:18] <MortarMan> when i start beryl through XGL i can see white screen...wazzup ?
[06:18] <neil__> !fstab
[06:18] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:18] <crdlb> MortarMan: join #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <hurt> ur computers in heaven
[06:18] <neil__> !partitions
[06:18] <marco_linux> Does anybody knows how to configure Evolution to use an hotmail account?
[06:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:19] <YetiChick> neil__:  What seems to be the problem with your fstab?
[06:19] <neil__> in the middle of a session i suddenly couldn't save anything, now when i reboot it says "The partition is in read only"
[06:20] <neil__> i can't use nano to edit my file since it won't save, so i'm trying to use live CD to fix it, but it's not mounting
[06:20] <rbs-tito> marco_linux: I don't think hotmail provide pop3 access
[06:20] <SlimeyPete> neil__: sounds like the filesystem's broken....
[06:20] <kayef> i'm using an Acer laptop, how do i disable the built in soundcard?cant find the option in bios
[06:20] <SlimeyPete> either that or the disk
[06:20] <YetiChick> neil__:  And it was working before?  Sounds like a broken fs.
[06:21] <neil__> any fix yetichick?
[06:21] <bensherman> hello
[06:21] <neil__> i never had this with edgy, but twice in the last month or two on feisty
[06:21] <YetiChick> neil__:  Or disk.  Well, you'll probably want to fsck the thing.  But I'd back up anything on it first.
[06:21] <jusama14> can someone help me use xmame? i installed it through package manager but I don't know how to use it.
[06:22] <bensherman> i installed ubuntu server yesterday - when i took the CD out of the machine, I stopped being able to install certain things, so I removed the local CD line out of the /etc/apt/somthing.conf file - is this the right way to do this?
[06:22] <neil__> the disk is fine, if i reinstall it works yetichick
[06:22] <neil__> is there some place i can look up how to fix it?
[06:22] <switch_> jrib: yes but there is not much i can do
[06:22] <jujimufu> I ran the beryl manager. How do I enable the effects now? (I am on KDE)
[06:23] <jrib> switch_: ok, is the partition for / mounted?
[06:23] <switch_> how do i check?
[06:23] <myr> marco_linux, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html may help you
[06:23] <jrib> switch_: type 'mount'
[06:24] <jusama14> can someone help me use xmame? i installed it through package manager but I don't know how to use it.
[06:24] <switch_> jrib: /proc/mount: no such file or directory
[06:24] <YetiChick> neil__:  The fact that you can install on it doesn't mean that the disk isn't "failing".  If there is nothing critical on  the disk you can run fsck on it and see if there are any errors found.
[06:24] <jrib> switch_: ok, 'cat /etc/mtab'
[06:24] <YetiChick> neil__:  If it contains critical data, back it up first.
[06:25] <neil__> i have
[06:25] <bluefox83> you guys have a tutorial someplace for folks that are having issues getting the installer to partition their drive?
[06:25] <neil__> yetichick: so i type fsck on the live session?
[06:25] <switch_> jrib: same thing
[06:26] <jrib> switch_: it says "/proc/mount: ..."?
[06:26] <mrj> anyone know how to install macromedia flash player  on x64?
[06:26] <jrib> !flash > mrj (see the private message from ubotu)
[06:26] <mrj> thanks
[06:26] <YetiChick> neil__:  Yes.  "fsck /dev/sdxx"   - whatever dev the partition is.  Unmount it first.
[06:26] <jrib> mrj: either setup a chroot (see the wiki) or use nspluginwrapper (you need to compile it or find a deb)
[06:26] <switch_> jrib:  no it says " cat: /etc/mtab: no such file or directory"
[06:27] <neil__> yetichick: fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=17f89856-52e9-42e2-be94-05f899b7f858'
[06:27] <mrj> jrib its says that my architecture is not supported
[06:27] <jrib> mrj: what does?
[06:27] <jusama14> can someone help me use xmame? i installed it through package manager but I don't know how to use it.
[06:27] <switch_> jrib: I am able to see all the content of the drive.
[06:28] <ash_> could someone help me i have no sound in flash 9 @ firefox @ feisty w/ http://www.teagames.com/games/tgmotocross3/play.php
[06:28] <mrj> jrib: the installer from macromedia and the package manager
[06:28] <jrib> mrj: yes, see the link ubotu gave you
[06:28] <mrj> k
[06:28] <SlimeyPete> jusama14: you can probably just open a terminal and type "xmame" (just a guess)
[06:28] <jusama14> SlimeyPete, yeah, but that doesn't launch the game I don't know how or where to put the game, any ideas?
[06:28] <jrib> switch_: do you have /usr/bin/passwd?
[06:29] <YetiChick> neil__:  Interesting.  It shouldn't be using the UUID if you typed the device name directly.
[06:29] <jusama14> It's command line, but I don't know how to use this, I just want to play 1 game, please help
[06:29] <awpti> what the hell.. my i can't click anything with my mouse.
[06:29] <wims> SlimeyPete thanks, changing from hd(0,6) to hd(0,5) worked yay
[06:29] <awpti> why would Xorg be ignoring mouseclicks?
[06:29] <neil__> ahh k, yetichick it's running now
[06:30] <YetiChick> neil__:  I'm thinking that maybe your BIOS is changing the boot order.  Do you have more than one drive in the machine?
[06:30] <neil__> no, just one
[06:30] <bluefox83> what was that command to see how much hard drive was used? df -H?
[06:30] <jrib> bluefox83: df -h
[06:30] <YetiChick> neil__:  Ok.
[06:30] <bluefox83> ah, ok'
[06:30] <SlimeyPete> wims: no problem
[06:30] <jrib> bluefox83: you can use 'man df' to see all the options
[06:30] <Trixsey> My microphone is not working (built-into the laptop), but the regular sound is working just fine. Any tips on how to solve it? I've checked my mic volume and it's tuned up!
[06:31] <jusama14> can someone help me use xmame??
[06:31] <jrib> !away > JD|work (see the private message from ubotu)
[06:31] <neil__> yetichick: /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[06:31] <neil__> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[06:32] <eCokeNCod> hey guys, having this weird error message come up when i login in console ... configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[06:32] <JD|work> jrib: I'm not away
[06:32] <neil__> Deleted inode 5210130 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>?
[06:32] <JD|work> red head
[06:32] <YetiChick> neil__:  Well, that's something.  :)
[06:32] <eCokeNCod> anyone know what could be causing that ?
[06:32] <jrib> JD|work: still applies
[06:32] <SlimeyPete> jusama14: I think "xmame <rom filename> " (without the quote marks) should work
[06:32] <switch_> jrib: passwd is a file right?
[06:32] <CokeNCode> ?
[06:32] <JD|work> fine
[06:32] <SlimeyPete> jusama14: I have to go now.... hope that helps
[06:32] <jrib> switch_: yeah, it's a program to change passwords
[06:32] <jusama14> SlimeyPete, so i can have the zip anywhere?
[06:32] <jusama14> wait 1 second
[06:32] <neil__> yetichick: so i should just go through the check and hope it works out?
[06:32] <jusama14> can i pm you what it says?
[06:32] <YetiChick> neil__:  It will ask you if you want to fix the errors that it finds.  Say yes.
[06:33] <SlimeyPete> jusama14: unzip it to your home directory, that'll be easiest
[06:33] <neil__> alright
[06:33] <jusama14> yeah it starts loading
[06:33] <jusama14> but it says this
[06:33] <jusama14> can someone help me use xmame? i installed it through package manager but I don't know how to use it.
[06:33] <jusama14> woops
[06:33] <CokeNCode> so, can anyone help me out here ... this is the errror message 'configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)' that's what i get when i try to login in console. It still logs in fine, but I'm wondering what's cuasing it
[06:33] <jusama14> ERROR: required files are missing, the game cannot be run.
[06:33] <jusama14> before that it says mvc.16m      NOT FOUND
[06:33] <jusama14> mvc.18m      NOT FOUND
[06:33] <jusama14> mvc.20m      NOT FOUND
[06:33] <jusama14> mvc.01       NOT FOUND
[06:33] <jusama14> mvc.02       NOT FOUND
[06:33] <jusama14> mvc.11m      NOT FOUND
[06:33] <jusama14> mvc.12m      NOT FOUND
[06:33] <jusama14> and so forth
[06:33] <switch_> jrib: "/bin/sh: passwd: not found
[06:33] <YetiChick> neil__:  If it finds a *lot* of errors, you might want to restart the check in autofix mode.  Otherwise your fingers can get tired.  :)
[06:33] <jrib> !paste > jusama14 (see the private message from ubotu)
[06:33] <Kr0ntab> jusama14, not in here
[06:34] <jusama14> yes i know, but he was about to leave, so i was in a hurry
[06:34] <emo> how shall I put my lan card in monitor mode ?
[06:34] <jusama14> SlimeyPete, still there?
[06:34] <SlimeyPete> jusama14: I'm not sure why that is (though I just checked, and I get the same problem)
[06:34] <neil__> alright, but the disk gets checked when it tries to mount, and it ends up saying "fail" at some point
[06:34] <jrib> switch_: try '/usr/bin/passwd THE_USERNAME_HERE'
[06:34] <SlimeyPete> jusama14: there may be an xmame IRC channel you can ask in. Check the project website.
[06:34] <jusama14> ohk
[06:35] <agentbob> are there any troubleshooting docs for if the ubuntu livecd X windows fails to load?
[06:35] <switch_> jrib: He went to class how do I find out the user name?
[06:35] <emo> ?
[06:35] <jrib> switch_: ls /home
[06:35] <CokeNCode> ok, apparently i need to edit my login.defs file
[06:35] <JD|work> jrib: how does it still apply?
[06:35] <CokeNCode> whatdo i need to comment out ?
[06:35] <jrib> switch_: you're not breaking into his laptop without his permission right?
[06:35] <julesa> is there a way to have a keystroke set to switch between specific apps? So Ctl-Alt-Shift-F for firefox, etc? I can get it to launch a new app each time but not switch.
[06:36] <JD|work> I'm actually active
[06:36] <switch_> jrib: right lol .....
[06:36] <JD|work> I'm at work, but I'll be on active in the channel all day
[06:36] <CokeNCode> ok, i'll go take a crack at this
[06:36] <CokeNCode> bbl
[06:36] <J3ff>  DCC CHAT uxjx8cjhc72hj4347
[06:36] <switch_> jrib: "ls: /home: no such file or directory"
[06:37] <agentbob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall dies after step 2. x server wont start and dumps to console... any ideas on troubleshooting? or lost cause
[06:37] <jrib> !nickspam > JD|work (see the private message from ubotu)
[06:38] <JD|work> jrib: fair enough.
[06:39] <switch_> jrib: no i am not breaking in to his notebook, he gave it to me and wanted to see what i could do before he took it in to the shop.
[06:40] <neil__> yetichick: it's done, you think it will work?
[06:40] <YetiChick> neil__:  Well, it probably won't refuse to mount now...  But you might have some bad blocks on that drive.
[06:41] <neil__> k
[06:41] <neil__> thanks for your help then
[06:41] <neil__> i'll try it out
[06:41] <YetiChick> neil__:  Likely to, actually, if it just stopped working while you were using it.
[06:41] <neil__> alright
[06:41] <neil__> i'll finish my work then do it then lol
[06:41] <neil__> yetichick: thanks a lot for helping!
[06:42] <jusama14> hey, when i try to install a program it says: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:42] <Jarekb84> how do I install nvidia drivers?
[06:42] <jusama14> what does this mean?
[06:42] <YetiChick> neil__:  Any time.  Good luck on your reboot.  :)
[06:42] <crdlb> Jarekb84: on ubuntu feisty?
[06:42] <Jarekb84> yes
[06:42] <crdlb> Jarekb84: system>administration>restricted manager
[06:42] <crdlb> check the box, reboot
[06:43] <YetiChick> jusama14:  It usually means that you're running some other software manager.  Synaptic.  Update Manager.  Something.
[06:43] <ubuntuEdgy> jusama14:close the termianl. or synaptic
[06:43] <jusama14> !paste
[06:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:43] <Vladimir> could anybody can tell where i can find adobe reader? there is no repository for feisty
[06:43] <casual_moron> hiya, i know theres probbably a million good reasons for it being that way, but is there an easy way to get a gui on ubuntu server?
[06:43] <Jarekb84> crdlb: thank you!!!
[06:44] <aubade> casual_moron: Install xserver-xorg and whatever DE/WM you want.
[06:44] <ubuntuEdgy> casual_moron: use ssh ?
[06:44] <Andrzej> I'm having a bit of an issue with my computer.  Namely, she won't boot.  I have two drives.  The first drive has Windows XP Professional on it, and the second has two partitions: a large NTFS partition, and then the ubuntu partition, and swap space, in that order.  When I boot up, it gets past BIOS, and then grub (installed in MBR) gives me "error #5" or whathaveyou.  I just want to be able to boot into the Windows p
[06:44] <Andrzej> artition, and I'm out of ideas.
[06:44] <variant> Vladimir: becaues adobe won't allow anyone to redistribute it
[06:44] <variant> !acrobat | Vladimir
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <jusama14> when i try to execute a command on terminal i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18977/plain/
[06:44] <jusama14> please help
[06:44] <variant> !adobe
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Toma-> aubade: actually, the wm/de will depend on a server
[06:44] <jusama14> please check that pastebin
[06:44] <variant> !pdf | Vladimir
[06:44] <ubotu> Vladimir: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[06:44] <cliebow_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or kub-desktop..untu-desktop or xubuntu
[06:45] <vargas> alguien habla espaol 
[06:45] <AlberTUX> hi guys
[06:45] <jusama14> I have that file on the desktop
[06:45] <jrib> !es | vargas
[06:45] <ubotu> vargas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:45] <bipolar> casual_moron: login to  your server via ssh with the -X switch. then any gui apps you start on the server will display on your local box.
[06:45] <punktux> if i made everything installed under / and i'd like to seperate /usr /home and / later on, is it possible?
[06:45] <AlberTUX> got a question.
[06:45] <Vladimir> ubotu: cause I need that plugin which allows to fill up the fields
[06:45] <vargas> y komo kambio de canal ?? :S
[06:45] <bipolar> casual_moron: you need a desktop linux box to use ssh -X anyway.
[06:45] <AlberTUX> im recompliling the kernel for feisty server
[06:45] <jrib> switch_: take a look at /etc/passwd and look for uid >= 1000 .  His first user probably has uid 1000.  I have to go now though, gl
[06:45] <jusama14> nvm got it, i moved it to the home folder
[06:46] <myr> heheh
[06:46] <ubuntuEdgy> casual_moron: ssh is best, google it
[06:46] <Esteth> ctrl-alt-F1/2/3 etc... is not responding at all. as in, nothing happens when i press them. how do i change this?
[06:46] <Vladimir> variant: cause I need that plugin which allows to fill up the fields
[06:46] <AlberTUX> vargas: /join canal
[06:46] <sgray> hey folks
[06:46] <crdlb> Vladimir: afaik now you need adobe reader to do that, evince is working on it, but it's not there yet
[06:46] <switch_> jrib: Ok , but i am not able to edit anything!
[06:46] <sgray> has anyone had any luck with ehome wonder with mythtv
[06:46] <martalli> Is there a way to get ls to return a full filename, so that the list of files returned is something like "/home/me/mypic.jpg", instead of "mypic.jpg"?
[06:46] <variant> Vladimir: yes i know what you mean. the free software pdf readers don't support all the features of the proprietry one unfortunatly
[06:47] <variant> Vladimir: there may be an editing plugin for evince
[06:47] <casual_moron> sorry to be a time waster, i'll give it another go when im feeling slightly less retarded ; )
[06:47] <AlberTUX> so anyway, how come im compiling from source 2.6.20-15  and the resulting kernel is 2.6.203
[06:47] <jrib> switch_: you need to remount / as rw
[06:47] <AlberTUX> 2.6.20-3
[06:47] <Andrzej> anyone who can help with my booting problem?
[06:47] <sgray> does anyone have a ehome wonder ATI tv tuner
[06:47] <Vladimir> variant and crdlb: I don't know evince....
[06:48] <crdlb> Vladimir: that's the pdf reader that comes with ubuntu
[06:48] <crdlb> !info evince
[06:48] <ubotu> evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1111 kB, installed size 5732 kB
[06:48] <switch_> jrib:  just by typing?
[06:48] <Vladimir> variant and crdlb: oh yeah, sorry
[06:48] <martalli> Vladimir:  It is coming up by default, but it may not say evince on the top of the screen
[06:48] <sgray> i am downloading ubuntu 7.04 has anyone tried it yet
[06:48] <variant> sgray: yes, most people in here probably
[06:48] <sgray> nice
[06:49] <sgray> anyone using mythtv
[06:49] <sgray> i have had enough of mce
[06:49] <AlberTUX> kernel help appreciated here. thanks.
[06:49] <sgray> junk as always
[06:49] <variant> Vladimir: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html try that
[06:49] <ubuntuEdgy> sgray , i use mythtv
[06:49] <vargas_> alguien me puede ayudar a entrar a otro canal ?
[06:49] <sgray> how do you find it
[06:49] <sgray> nice and stable?
[06:49] <ubuntuEdgy> great
[06:49] <Myrtti> vargas_: /join #canal
[06:50] <ubuntuEdgy> you will love it
[06:50] <vaio> aloah
[06:50] <sgray> nice, imagine their are alot of plugins, and do you know if you can use the guide
[06:50] <sgray> or will i be SOL
[06:50] <s0nix_> hi
[06:50] <s0nix_> why my KNetworkManager don't display the ESSID ?
[06:51] <ubuntuEdgy>  sgray:  the guide is second to none
[06:51] <sgray> i had ubuntu installed before and i had to manually edit the xorg.conf or something to get my monitor to work, do you think with the new ubuntu i will have to do the same thing
[06:51] <sgray> alright
[06:51] <myr> vargas_,  escribe: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:51] <Pelo> sgray,  you will
[06:51] <AlberTUX> Vargas: la linea donde escribes acepta comandos de IRC, escribe "/join #nombrecanal" sin las comillas y dale enter
[06:51] <sgray> can i just install it
[06:51] <ritesh> hi anyone help me with ubuntu 64 bit installation on desktop
[06:51] <sgray> then copy my old conf file from 6.10
[06:51] <Kubuntu> After I start beryl the line where it is the cross, line and square dissaperas, how do I get it back?
[06:51] <ubuntuEdgy>  sgray: its unlikely you will have too, but if you do we sure can help you
[06:52] <Pelo> sgray,  depending on how your /home folder is setup it will write over your data
[06:52] <sgray> ok
[06:52] <ritesh> every thing is fine except for internet
[06:52] <sgray> i think it is awesome dell has partnered with ubuntu and going to be releasing on some systems
[06:52] <vaio> when i start my computer with kubuntu and Xp installed i get a error message "GRUB loading, please wait Error 22" how can i fix that
[06:52] <danny30> hi to all
[06:52] <jusama14> what does LIRC disabled mean?
[06:53] <vargas_> gracias
[06:53] <exerd> what is LVM?
[06:53] <sgray> does anyone know how to dual boot with ubuntu and windows
[06:53] <mattis> bjr qu'elle est la commande pr demonter un disque ?
[06:53] <danny30> unmount
[06:53] <ubuntuEdgy>  sgray: yes
[06:53] <AlberTUX> sgray: just install windows first and then ubuntu
[06:53] <ritesh> anyone
[06:53] <void^> jusama14: it means infrared remote control support is disabled.
[06:53] <ritesh> 64 bit
[06:53] <sgray> ok, just as simple as other version of linux then
[06:53] <AlberTUX> sgray: should work out of the box
[06:53] <vaio> nobody a idea?
[06:53] <Andrzej> I do, normally.. but right now, I'm having a bit of an issue.  Namely, grub is being coy or something
[06:54] <Andrzej> can't get into either of my OSes
[06:54] <ritesh> is there a bug with 64 bit ubuntu
[06:54] <vaio> hm google has an answer
[06:54] <variant> ritesh: yes
[06:54] <ritesh> then what to do
[06:54] <AlberTUX> mattis: man umount
[06:54] <Pelo> exerd,   logical volume management, it's away to spread volumes over multiple phisical dirives,  more or less    http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lvm/
[06:54] <variant> ritesh: what about?
[06:54] <ritesh> about my internet connection
[06:55] <danny30> ubuntu feisty fown in the best
[06:55] <variant> ritesh: oh, you didn't really describe your problem very well
[06:55] <variant> ritesh: there are many bugs with ubuntu 32/64 bit, as with any operating system
[06:55] <markster> need help with boot-up issue
[06:55] <ritesh> variant: yesterday i installed ubuntu 64 bit on my desktop computer
[06:55] <ubuntuEdgy> explain
[06:55] <danny30> my problem is than i can`t connect to an adsl/pppoeconf whith kubuntu
[06:55] <variant> ritesh: describe your problem, what you did to try and fix it, what hardware you have etc. we are not pshycic
[06:56] <ritesh> variant: eberything installed fine except for internet which is through ehternet cable
[06:56] <caliente> .LOPMLKJ
[06:56] <caliente> KHIO
[06:56] <caliente> TANIA
[06:56] <jusama14> I have a problem, where do i put the game for xmame or gxmame??
[06:56] <variant> caliente: can we help with something? perhaps fixing your keyboard?
[06:56] <AlberTUX> why is that when i compile from source 2.6.20-15 i get 2.6.20-3 ??
[06:57] <markster> i get /bin/sh: Can't access tty : job control turned off
[06:57] <ritesh> i tried iwconfig ...says lo no wireless
[06:57] <exerd> should i install with or without LVM? i want to dualboot
[06:57] <Andrzej> Hm... a google search for grub error message 5 turned up "This error is returned if the sanity checks on the integrity of the partition table fail. This is a bad sign."
[06:57] <ritesh> sit0 no wireless
[06:57] <Andrzej> So... um, now what?
[06:57] <ubuntuEdgy> ritesh: try-ed to configure it yet ? i had 64 bit every thing work out off the box
[06:57] <caliente> titito6
[06:57] <sgray> anyone have advice for setting up MYTH TV for the first time
[06:57] <sgray> or any good links that will help me out
[06:58] <variant> !flood | caliente
[06:58] <ubotu> caliente: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <danny30> i did sudo pppoeconf as root,by the way,and i`ve follow the instructions ,than i succeded first time,but next time when i`ve restarded my computer the same steps that i`ve following didn`t work...
[06:58] <ritesh> ubuntuedgy: try -ed command not found
[06:58] <jedi__> how can i save the setting of alsamixer, so i do not config after each boot-time???
[06:59] <AlberTUX> why is that when i compile from source 2.6.20-15 i get 2.6.20-3 ?? (feisty)
[06:59] <ubuntuEdgy> ritesh: ok.... what dose "ifconfig" say
[06:59] <q-t> anyone here running ubuntu on a HP Compaq laptop?
[06:59] <ubuntuEdgy> use paste bit if you have too
[06:59] <Vorbote> exerd:  do you plan on adding new physical disks to your system for use with Linux? Do you plan on using LVM snapshots for backups? Those are the kind of questions that would point you towards a proper answer to your question.
[06:59] <ubuntuEdgy> bin*
[06:59] <RedACE> AlberTUX, you have old source?
[06:59] <danny30> i have done pon dsl-provider as root and the message rpppoe is loading against pppconf appears
[07:00] <ritesh> ubuntuedgy: how can i send u the images of all the command output
[07:00] <ritesh> so it would be better for u to understand the problem
[07:00] <danny30> i don`t know
[07:00] <ubuntuEdgy> !paste ritesh
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ritesh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <ubuntuEdgy> ???
[07:00] <hidan> hey guys, besides openoffice , koffice and gnome office. what other office suites are there for ubuntu?
[07:00] <Andrzej> the pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:00] <danny30> maybe i shuld be more carefull whit the scripts that i`ve changed
[07:01] <Karlo> hy
[07:01] <ritesh> can i get the email id so that i can send u an email
[07:01] <RedACE> staroffice?
[07:01] <Kr0ntab> !paste > ritesh
[07:01] <AlberTUX> RedACE: apt-get linux-source-2.6 . i have 2.6.20 in /usr/src
[07:01] <jusama14> Can someone help me with this pastebin?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18980/plain/
[07:01] <AlberTUX> RedACE: it should be 2.6.20-15 right?
[07:01] <ubuntuEdgy> !paste | ritesh
[07:01] <RedACE> AlberTUX, I'm not sure that the number after the dash matters
[07:01] <ubotu> ritesh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:01] <hidan> ritesh: oh okay..
[07:01] <danny30> what are these ,maybe repositories?
[07:01] <q-t> If u boot ur computer with the installation CD to Ubuntu, and get an error message regarding fd0, what does that mean?
[07:01] <ritesh> hi hidan
[07:02] <ubuntuEdgy> :-P
[07:02] <RedACE> it means you spelled "you" and "your" wrong you lazy bastard
[07:02] <EspadaV9> could someone let me know what files are safe to delete n /boot?
[07:02] <exerd> i get "input/output error during read on /dev/hdb" when trying to install ubuntu =(
[07:02] <EspadaV9> the upgrade is telling me to free 288k from /boot
[07:02] <Vorbote> EspadaV9: none
[07:02] <danny30> try to adit the file sources.list found in /etc/apt/
[07:02] <AlberTUX> RedACE: ok then
[07:03] <EspadaV9> (/boot is it's own partation of 50MB)
[07:03] <EspadaV9> *partition
[07:03] <AlberTUX> thanks
[07:03] <q-t> RedACE: oh thank you for sorting that out.... O_o
[07:03] <danny30> uncoment the multiverse ,delet the sign #
[07:03] <EspadaV9> Vorbote: really? bugger
[07:03] <EspadaV9> do you know why the upgrader would need more than 40MB on /boot?
[07:04] <hidan> ritesh: uh hi?
[07:04] <knp> Someone coud help with changing cursors themes on xfce 7.04 feisty ?
[07:04] <danny30> and put what ever do you whis using vi editor
[07:04] <danny30> whish
[07:04] <danny30> ...
[07:04] <danny30> google helps
[07:04] <ritesh> internet is not working in 64 bit ubuntu 6.06
[07:04] <Jarekb84> just did a fresh install of ubuntu 7.04, all hardware has been recognized it seems, just installed nvidia drivers, but pc is still acting sluggish, ie slow response time for applications, moving windows around is choppy... any ideas on what to do?
[07:05] <jedi__> how can i fix the volume with alsamixer for default use???
[07:05] <RedACE> ritesh: the internet is full. try again later.
[07:05] <danny30> try to find some books about ubuntu at www.mininova.org
[07:05] <knp> Jarekb84 http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html
[07:05] <knp> check this
[07:05] <ROnewbi2> I'm trying to run freeciv; I get this error message:   0: Plugin 'alsa' isn't available. Available are [none, sdl] 
[07:05] <ROnewbi2> any help ?
[07:05] <knp> Someone coud help with changing cursors themes on xfce 7.04 feisty ?
[07:06] <ubuntuEdgy> ritesh did you paste the out put ?
[07:06] <ROnewbi2> I'm quite sure Alsa is running, I think it only means the sdl plugins, am I right ? Which one are those?
[07:06] <markster> yes
[07:06] <un4get> hey, IM trying to Resize my HD size (on the same WIndows Partition), after I mounted it I cannot resize it in Gparted, I have a "lock" sign next to my HD, any ideas why??
[07:07] <Andrzej> Okay, solved my own problem.  I'm just going to use my iPod to get anything off the second drive (there isn't much there that can't be re-downloaded), format the entire drive, and hope grub can figure out the partition table then.
[07:07] <markster> getting a error message that states tty error job control turned off on boot-up
[07:07] <ritesh> I am not able to
[07:07] <ritesh> i am trying for it
[07:07] <Andrzej> un4get: right-click it and click... whateveritis near the bottom that will unlock it
[07:07] <danny30> whit an ipod mepis is a good os
[07:07] <danny30> whith ...
[07:07] <un4get> in Gparted?
[07:07] <Andrzej> yeah
[07:08] <ubuntuEdgy> ritesh: onpen a terminal and type "ifconfig"
[07:08] <Andrzej> right click that partition in the list
[07:08] <danny30> no qtparted
[07:08] <ubuntuEdgy> explian what you see
[07:08] <exerd> why do i get Input/output error during write on /dev/hda
[07:08] <elpe> ehlo
[07:08] <awpti> Can any of you recommend a decent newsreader that support NZB files?
[07:08] <un4get> I have 3 things, Manage Flags, Unmount and Information... dats it...
[07:08] <Myrtti> exerd: broken harddrive?
[07:08] <Andrzej> try unmount.  shouldn't remove it from the list
[07:08] <exerd> Myrtti: no but its not formatted
[07:08] <ROnewbi2> I'm trying to run freeciv; I get this error message:   0: Plugin 'alsa' isn't available. Available are [none, sdl]  ; I'm quite sure Alsa is running, I think it only means the sdl plugins, am I right ? Which one are those?
[07:08] <elpe> awpti: pan?
[07:09] <un4get> yeah but if im doing "unmount" i cannot resize my HD im keep gettin an error...
[07:09] <Andrzej> hm... I don't know, then.  Someone else will have to pick this one up.  I'm rebooting
[07:09] <un4get> anyone can help me out?
[07:10] <un4get> i havent installed ubuntu yet BTW...
[07:10] <StoneNote> !anyone
[07:10] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:10] <xeon`feisty> un4get: what is the error you get?
[07:10] <un4get> fail in Resizing...
[07:10] <xeon`feisty> is the disk empty?
[07:10] <EspadaV9> anyone know how i could upgrade then when it's telling me to free 288k from /boot?
[07:11] <robinsjostrom> xeon`feisty: no
[07:11] <un4get> nop it has WINDOWS On it
[07:11] <ROnewbi2>  I'm trying to run freeciv; I get this error message:  / 0: Plugin 'alsa' isn't available. Available are [none, sdl]  /  - I'm quite sure Alsa is running, I think it only means the sdl plugins, am I right ? Which ones are those?
[07:11] <xeon`feisty> so you're trying to resize a non-empty ntfs partition from the live cd?
[07:12] <un4get> xeon`feisty: its not empty it has WIndows on it.........
[07:12] <xeon`feisty> right... hence non-empty
[07:12] <awpti> klibido is a nice reader.
[07:12] <danny30> ubuntu unleashed is a good book to start doing great things whit this wonderfull system
[07:12] <hume> hi...anyone here knows how to run xephyr with a window manager, like xfce4? i can start xephyr and start applications in it, but no window manager
[07:12] <void^> ROnewbi2: probably libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[07:12] <vaio> How do i find out which is my first Drive (grub reinstall)
[07:12] <elpe> ROnewbi2, try ALSA development package from SuSE
[07:12] <ubuntuEdgy> it should not be mounted
[07:13] <emet> I am using Ubuntu
[07:13] <un4get> so its not possible to install ubuntu without killing my old WIndows data
[07:13] <awpti> hmm.. now i gotta figure out what php development tool i want to use.
[07:13] <jmazaredo> anyone know why i get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'"
[07:13] <lori> hi .. is there someone, who have an asus A6RP laptop?
[07:13] <Wriest> how do I update my graphics card?
[07:13] <Karlo> c' qualche italiano?
[07:13] <jmazaredo> im trying to mount read/write
[07:13] <ubuntuEdgy> vaio: sod apt-get install gparted
[07:13] <timo_> 7list
[07:13] <Me2resh> awpit: you can use zend development environment, or bluefish editor, or quanta plus
[07:13] <ubuntuEdgy> vaio: thats the easy way , or use fdisk command
[07:14] <xeon`feisty> no it's possible, it's actually much easier to install ubuntu on a partition after you've installed windows on another partition (as opposed to the other way around)
[07:14] <un4get> Ok
[07:14] <awpti> Me2resh: which do you prefer? i'm not a big fan of the zend ide.
[07:14] <ROnewbi2> void^: thanks, I'll give it a try
[07:14] <Wriest> how do I update my graphics card?
[07:14] <vaio> ubuntuEdgy,  i simply cant boot my system i get a error message "Grub Loading....Error 22"
[07:14] <un4get> can i install ubuntu on another partition without WIndows?
[07:14] <ROnewbi2> elpe: is that in synaptic ?
[07:14] <xeon`feisty> un4get: do you know how to use fdisk?
[07:14] <ubuntuEdgy> vaio: have live cd ?
[07:14] <danny30> no
[07:14] <vaio> ubuntuEdgy, i have XP und kubuntu
[07:14] <vaio> yes i do
[07:14] <ubuntuEdgy> load it pls
[07:14] <un4get> in WIndows?
[07:14] <danny30> so and i
[07:15] <vaio> ubuntuEdgy, already did
[07:15] <elpe> no, it's rpm
[07:15] <xeon`feisty> in linux terminal
[07:15] <ubuntuEdgy> boot off the live cd vaio:
[07:15] <Me2resh> awpti: i like zend more, it autocomplete the code, and highlights syntax errors.
[07:15] <ubuntuEdgy> ok great
[07:15] <elpe> send u link on priv
[07:15] <un4get> xeon`feisty: no... anychance to help out?
[07:15] <robin_tux_> Hi please I have a real problem
[07:15] <ubuntuEdgy> grab a terminal and type "sudo grub"
[07:15] <Wriest> how do I update my graphics card?
[07:15] <danny30> whit tje rpm packet managment try to install alien package
[07:15] <robin_tux_> Administration\services is unbootable
[07:15] <xeon`feisty> sure, one sec while i grab my laptop
[07:16] <awpti> Zend IDE isn't free, is it? or is it free now?
[07:16] <danny30> i dont know,you may try to configure the kernel
[07:16] <un4get> xeon`feisty: u wanna do it on PM? cause my eyes are killing me here...
[07:16] <Me2resh> awpti: you can download your free trial, it will last for 30 or 50 days
[07:16] <awpti> ah.
[07:16] <xeon`feisty> go for it
[07:16] <Me2resh> awpti: just register at www.zend.com for free
[07:17] <awpti> maybe i'll just get wine working and install php studio.
[07:17] <ubuntuEdgy> how do i list the hard drives on my computer "fdisk -l" ?
[07:17] <Me2resh> awpti: that's a good idea too
[07:17] <ubuntuEdgy> vaio: done "sudo grub"
[07:17] <danny30> #quit
[07:17] <seamus7> Hi... How can I disable a service through the Terminal?
[07:18] <Me2resh> which mail server works better with ubuntu ?
[07:18] <vaio> yes
[07:18] <cjsoftuk> ANyone know how to share devices across a network?
[07:18] <robinsjostrom> i have just installed a 200gb ata drive and windows says its a 31.3gb drive. does that signal its broken?
[07:19] <vaio> robinsjostrom,  did u set the jumpers right?
[07:19] <robin_tux_> robinsjostrom: Testa formatera
[07:19] <cjsoftuk> I'm trying to share a tape drive across multiple PCs, does anyone know how...?
[07:19] <cyril_> hi, anyone know a debian package for the software komodo edit ?
[07:19] <dyrne> robin_tux_: why do you care what windows says?
[07:19] <ubuntuEdgy> vaio find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:19] <ROnewbi2> void^: same problem
[07:20] <hume> anyone knows of how to run xephyr together with a window manager? or resources about xephyr?
[07:20] <vaio> error 15 "file not found"
[07:20] <mr> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:20] <ubuntuEdgy> vaio: thats ok
[07:20] <robin_tux_> Whats WRONG if Administration options are unbootable??
[07:21] <robin_tux_> System\Administration
[07:21] <seamus7> Hi.. my Services Settings is no longer accessible ... it just shows white ... I had just enabled a service so i think that's the problem ... now I need to disable the service but can't do it through the Services Settings GUI ... can I do it through a terminal or is there a configuration file that I can edit?
[07:21] <ubuntuEdgy> vaio: join me in #ubnutvai
[07:22] <tatters> I got a Nvidia fx5200 and using propriatory drivers, I only have a TV as monitor and need to resize screen because my Desktop left hand side and bottom of screen is cut off, I tried the NVTV package but get segmentation fault when run, is there any other options?
[07:23] <Bibagi> I have Nvidia 6600 GT graphics card.. i want to update my driver what to do now ?
[07:23] <elpe> ROnewbi2, try rpm to deb converter
[07:23] <crdlb> Bibagi: on feisty?
[07:23] <Bibagi> yes
[07:23] <crdlb> Bibagi: did you enable the restricted driver?
[07:23] <elpe> ROnewbi2,
[07:23] <elpe> ROnewbi2, sudo apt-get install alien
[07:23] <crdlb> using the restricted manager?
[07:24] <Bibagi> crdlb no i dont know how to do that
[07:24] <crdlb> Bibagi: system>administration>restricted manager
[07:24] <crdlb> check the box
[07:24] <LordTureis> is there anywhere I can get a deb package for pidgin 2.0 beta 7?
[07:24] <Bibagi> crdlb done
[07:24] <awpti> i'm gonna give anjuta a try.. looks decent.
[07:25] <crdlb> Bibagi: it's telling you to reboot right?
[07:25] <sq89> LordTureis: you're probably safer when compiling it yourself
[07:25] <Bibagi> crdlb not yet its downloading
[07:25] <crdlb> ok
[07:25] <Bibagi> crdlb what to do after downloading ?
[07:26] <crdlb> Bibagi: nothing, it does everything for you
[07:26] <LordTureis> k, I'll try that
[07:26] <crdlb> just reboot when it tells you to
[07:26] <Bibagi> crdlb gr8 thanks :D
[07:26] <elpe> awpti, anjute is really fine, nedds some additional packages like autoconf
[07:27] <stp2007> Hi, a new Ubuntu user here trying to install a wireless PCI card. It has a RaLink RT2500 chipset. I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 so according to the page below the rt2500 driver should already be installed. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500) Yet when I use the System->Administration->Network tool to setup a wireless connection I can't get the wireless connection to work. Any thoughts?
[07:27] <seamus7> How can I disable a Service? I can't access the GUI interface for Services.
[07:27] <pascalc> join #ubuntu-se
[07:27] <awpti> i'm only doing dev work in php.
[07:27] <awpti> won't need autoconf for that.
[07:27] <luisbg> anybody knows any good cpu temp looking apps?
[07:27] <Bibagi> crdlb what extra benefit will i get after installing this ?
[07:27] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: the the rt cards work but you have to configure wpa munually
[07:28] <crdlb> Bibagi: 3d support
[07:28] <crdlb> so you can play 3d games and use beryl
[07:28] <Bibagi> gr8 :D
[07:28] <tatters> stp2007: I got same wifi card always worked with Ubuntu have u ntried ifconfig ra0 up?
[07:28] <UnluckyMike> latters: you use wpa?
[07:28] <Bibagi> crdlb does this drivers give trouble? as this are kept as restricted :S ?:S:S:S
[07:29] <seamus7> luisbg: GKrellM
[07:29] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, tatters, sec. booting ubuntu laptop
[07:29] <CyberCod> whats a good linux substitute for PageMaker?
[07:29] <Guest1678> yay
[07:29] <crdlb> Bibagi: restricted just means they're not open source
[07:29] <tatters> UnluckyMike: nope , I only use card for sniffing
[07:29] <Bibagi> crdlb oh !! now i understood :D
[07:29] <UnluckyMike> latters: yeah the driver will work for that, wpa won't work unless you manually configure it
[07:30] <tatters> rt2500 supports packet injection works good with aircrack
[07:30] <xeon`feisty> has anyone else here "fixed" someone elses computer by installing ubuntu on it before?
[07:30] <CyberCod> I have
[07:30] <CyberCod> xeon`feisty:  I've fixed several
[07:30] <cjsoftuk> Anyone know about sharing devices across the network
[07:30] <xeon`feisty> haha... good times
[07:30] <ROnewbi2> elpe: thanks for the help, but I'm sure it's not that; my alsa works fine, I'm running a beta version of a game that was made for ubuntu, so it's already .deb files, no need for alien
[07:30] <LordTureis> seamus07, are you running beryl or compiz?
[07:30] <CyberCod> I'm looking for a good program to replace PageMaker
[07:31] <gonnaeatthat> Hey guys i have a question currently my partition for XP is ntfs and i want to create or convert it to fat32 so i can use thunderbird in linux and windows.  will i lose all the data if i convert it?
[07:31] <xeon`feisty> what is pagemaker used for?
[07:31] <xeon`feisty> publishing?
[07:31] <brydon> I've got install issues (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=431808) can anyone help me deal with a pixelated login screen?
[07:31] <UnluckyMike> gonnaeatthat: ntfs-3g can read and write ntfs
[07:31] <CyberCod> desktop publishing
[07:32] <xeon`feisty> :x
[07:32] <dyrne> soo.. how many feisty users you think are running with crappy default 16 bit settings and never touch hdparm? i mean even slackware doesnt go to 16bit in default install
[07:32] <gonnaeatthat> UnluckyMike: is that available through synaptic?
[07:32] <crdlb> CyberCod: have you tried scribus ?
[07:32] <Braddf0rd> Does anyone know of a good dock for Gnome?
[07:32] <bokey> !ntfs-3g | gonnaeatthat
[07:32] <ubotu> gonnaeatthat: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:32] <UnluckyMike> gonnaeatthat: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[07:32] <crdlb> Braddf0rd: as in os x?
[07:32] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, not currently using WPA. Just to see if I could get it to connect I had no security on my wireless router.
[07:32] <gonnaeatthat> okay let me check it out
[07:32] <xeon`feisty> probably me dyrne... because i dont know what that means
[07:32] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: what do you usually use
[07:32] <CyberCod> crdlb: Nope... is it good?
[07:33] <crdlb> CyberCod: it's a kde app, but it's probably the best for linux
[07:33] <stp2007> tatters, I haven't tried ifconfig rf0 up. Just tried the command and got a pemission denied message.
[07:33] <Braddf0rd> crdlb, right
[07:33] <dyrne> xeon`feisty: i was just curious. every machine ive installed on so far has been 16 bit.  do like 'hdparm /dev/hda'
[07:33] <robin_tux_> How do I start DBUS?
[07:33] <crdlb> Braddf0rd: are you running a composite manager? (beryl, compiz)
[07:33] <gonnaeatthat> UnluckyMike: do you happen to dual boot?
[07:33] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, for security, no default because its a new wireless router. Will use some kind of security but I want to get the ubuntu laptop connecting first.
[07:34] <gonnaeatthat> I am dual booting and hoping this won't be a pain in the arse to set up dual OS email
[07:34] <CyberCod> crdlb: awesome... thanks
[07:34] <Braddf0rd> crdlb, Compiz
[07:34] <UnluckyMike> gonnaeatthat: unfortunatly my wife uses windows
[07:34] <xeon`feisty> says 0 default 16 bit
[07:34] <gonnaeatthat> lol unlucky i have to have windows :) so i understand
[07:34] <CyberCod> now I've got the same question, but for Quark
[07:34] <crdlb> Braddf0rd: try avant-window-navigator and kiba-dock
[07:34] <robin_tux_> How do I start DBUS?
[07:34] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: if you use wpa personal tkip i have a shell script that will set it all up for you
[07:34] <bokey> robin_tux_, invoke-rc.d dbus start
[07:35] <acid_phyre> is ubuntu 7.04 the newest?
[07:35] <dyrne> xeon`feisty: see
[07:35] <xeon`feisty> what does that mean for me?
[07:35] <Braddf0rd> crdlb, I think I checked out Kiba-Dock, but I'll go make sure. Thx, I'll probably be back.
[07:35] <LordTureis> brydon, when you get "can't access tty; job control turned off" message, it is usually a boot problem
[07:35] <acid_phyre> why dont ubuntu site have 6.10?
[07:35] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, I'd appreciate the source for reference at least.
[07:35] <h4wk0> !dbush | robin_tux_
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <h4wk0> !dbus | robin_tux_
[07:35] <robin_tux_> bokey: Thank you sooo much!!! :-D
[07:35] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: can you accept files?
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <brydon> lord....well I get both, pixelated screen, and tty, they seem to alternate
[07:36] <bokey> np robin_tux_
[07:36] <robin_tux_> :] 
[07:36] <awpti> hmm
[07:36] <gonnaeatthat> who was asking about pagemaker alternative?
[07:36] <dyrne> xeon`feisty: do like sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda   my slack results by default with cheap hd are 1190mb/sec  for cache and disk reads 80 mb/sec
[07:36] <[Jonne] > I've been using Ubuntu for a while now, and i never had an issue with wireless on this laptop. After today's update it stopped working. Is there anything i can do to fix it? it's an intel 3945ABG...
[07:36] <Guest1678> So I already have my (NTFS) hard drive partitioned from a previous install of ubuntu, (I dual booted) if I install 7.4 on that ext3 partition what will it do in regards to the boot loader? I don't want to lose access to my installation of Windows ><
[07:36] <Guest1678> http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/3936/screenshotinstallbt6.png
[07:37] <acid_phyre> so is ubuntu 7.04 the newest or is edgy still?
[07:37] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, dunno never tried with irc. Setting seems to be ok though, give it a try.
[07:37] <awpti> i can't find any files to support php w/ anjuta
[07:38] <Lbawinowns> Can someone help me mount my drive, the normal "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/hda1" doesn't work, this time.
[07:38] <gonnaeatthat> [Jonne] : try here http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[07:38] <gonnaeatthat> [Jonne] : I am running the same card and feisty already configured it for me, i take it you have a dell 1505?
[07:38] <seamus7> Hi... anyone else having problems with System/Administration/Services after recent updates ... mine appears blank.. just a white empty window ... when I open it.
[07:38] <xeon`feisty> dyrne: my cache reads 483mb/sec and disk reads 14.43 mb/sec
[07:38] <strabes> Lbawinowns: what is the error you recieve
[07:38] <tatters> I use TV out Nvidia fx5200  running NVTV returns --->.. failed to open device Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:38] <dyrne> xeon`feisty: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html    fyi
[07:38] <xeon`feisty> dyrne: (i'm using /dev/sda)
[07:39] <un4get> xeon`feisty: how about that help we talked about in PM?
[07:39] <xeon`feisty> i pmed you like 3 hours ago
[07:39] <Lbawinowns> strabes: It works but I really can't do anything with the drive, i can just see it and there is a lost+found folder in there with red cross on it
[07:39] <stp2007> tatters, any idea why ifconfig ra0 up generates a permissions denied error?
[07:39] <un4get> me to...
[07:39] <UnluckyMike> run as sudo stp
[07:39] <tatters> stp2007: trry sudo
[07:39] <SlicerDicer-> is it possible to leave all my raids intact and transition over to ubuntu without having to redo all my software raid stuff?
[07:39] <jexd> what packages in synaptic do i need to delete to get mozilla-mplayer working? it is the player that shows up on pages embedded with video, but it doesn't actually play... it just says "Getting Playlist" for a second and then "Stopped" where it, appropriately enough, stops
[07:40] <xeon`feisty> dyrne: this is for hda drives with intel... i'm using feisty x64 amd with sda harddrive
[07:40] <UnluckyMike> stp for some reason you arent in the user list for me
[07:40] <bokey> future versions of sudo will be called shudo
[07:40] <strabes> Lbawinowns: what is the filesystem of the driev?
[07:40] <stp2007> <--- new linux/ubuntu user here - syntax for sudo?
[07:40] <un4get> check your PM now...
[07:40] <[Jonne] > gonnaeatthat: it's a hp laptop. I picked this wireless card because it's well supported by linux. I never had to do anything special to get it to work, but today it just stopped working
[07:41] <UnluckyMike> sudo ifconfig ra0 up
[07:41] <LordTureis> seamus7: are you, by chance, running compiz or beryl (as opposed to the default metacity/kwin)?
[07:41] <bokey> m$ already patented for sudo. so can't use that. :0
[07:41] <Lbawinowns> strabes - oh! It's ext3 according to that GNOME partition-program, but fstab says its vfat :-(
[07:41] <graelb> hi
[07:41] <seamus7> LordTureis: no... i recently enabled lm_sensors in Services and that was when the problem began.
[07:42] <graelb> I don't suppose any one could help me with trying to get xubuntu to run level 3?
[07:42] <gonnaeatthat> [Jonne] : did you release and refresh router?
[07:42] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: you get the file request?
[07:42] <gonnaeatthat> [Jonne] : with some routers they need the occasional release and refresh
[07:42] <strabes> Lbawinowns: what does "sudo fdisk -l" say it is
[07:42] <exerd> join my chan please strabes
[07:43] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, yes, for some reason i cant close or accept the dialog at my end, give me a sec...
[07:43] <strabes> exerd: what is your channel? Do i know you?
[07:43] <exerd> strabes: im robinsjostrom
[07:43] <[Jonne] > gonnaeatthat: my girlfriend is using the internet just fine, (she's on a windows laptop, though)
[07:43] <Lbawinowns> strabes : /dev/sda1               1         464     3507808+  83  Linux
[07:43] <[Jonne] > and the router runs openWRT
[07:43] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, could you try that again please
[07:43] <Lbawinowns> hmm, it just says that the system is linux :?
[07:43] <gonnaeatthat> hmm mine did that not to long ago and it required me to reload unregistered drivers
[07:44] <strabes> Lbawinowns: that means it's ext3
[07:44] <[Jonne] > i'll try that
[07:44] <kayku> Hi everyone!!
[07:44] <strabes> Lbawinowns: you can't just do "sudo mkdir /media/whatever && sudo mount /dev/sdaX /media/whatever" ??
[07:44] <Lbawinowns> oh, so I must say to my sudo mount blabla that it should be ntfs?
[07:44] <[Jonne] > needs a reboot
[07:44] <kermitus> wow I really like ubuntu's auto update feature.
[07:44] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: when you download the file open it and edit it to match your setting for wpa and it will start up your device. if all works well then you can run it at startup
[07:44] <andres__> #UBUNTU-ES
[07:44] <kayku> I am here first time, just nice to meet you !
[07:45] <thebillywayne> !hi | kayef
[07:45] <ubotu> kayef: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:45] <[Jonne] > brb (unless i either fixed the problem, or if my wired adapter breaks too ;) )
[07:45] <thebillywayne> !hi | kayku
[07:45] <ubotu> kayku: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:45] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: you having problems?
[07:45] <Lbawinowns> strabes - what is /dev/sdaX  Should I substitute that with something?
[07:45] <UnluckyMike> brb
[07:45] <kayku> thank you, just getting used to everything...
[07:46] <awpti> hmm..
[07:46] <awpti> time to install doom2 and give it a go :)
[07:46] <neverblue> im having an issue with an apache install, I have both apache2 and apache-perl, how can I get rid of apache2 AND apache-perl entirely?
[07:46] <strabes> Lbawinowns: /dev/ is where devices are. you have to mount them somewhere in your filesystem, usually somewhere in /media. you have to create the folder first though. Replace the X with the number of the drive that you want to mount in "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:47] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, yes, some issue with my preferences set to ask me where I want to download stuff. I've changed it to a specific directory, will abort the current request and could you send it one last time. thanks
[07:48] <catlix> hello
[07:48] <ubuntuEdgy> hi
[07:48] <linuxmen> hi
[07:48] <Garnol> ive got a dual core processor by intel  .. i think my ubuntu dapper 6.06 deosnt use both cores ... how can i make sure it does ??
[07:48] <brydon> can anyone help me get past a pixelated, unreadable login screen post-install? No idea about next step....
[07:48] <brydon> (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=431808)
[07:48] <gonnaeatthat> hey guys where do programs usually install in linux i need to find an ini file for thunderbird
[07:48] <J-_> hey is there a yahoo messenger voice variant, or even a client that connect to yahoo voice??
[07:49] <J-_> that'll*
[07:49] <Lbawinowns> strabes: the folder exists, and nope, it wont work if I just type "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /media/whatever" it just created the invisible partition with only lost+found folder in
[07:49] <ubuntuEdgy> that will*
[07:49] <neverblue> J-_, maybe try kopete
[07:49] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: Hey I will have you know I got everything working, including the wireless pcmcia card (the belkin) :) thanks again for your pointers!
[07:49] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: no problem
[07:49] <J-_> neverblue: I'm on gnome =)
[07:50] <neverblue> J-_, so
[07:50] <Garnol> ive got a dual core processor by intel  .. i think my ubuntu dapper 6.06 deosnt use both cores ... how can i make sure it does ??
[07:50] <linuxmen> I1m love you gnome
[07:50] <strabes> Lbawinowns: are you sure you have the right partition number
[07:50] <void^> gourdin: that's likely going to be in ~/.mozilla, or probably ~/.thunderbird, i don't use it myself.
[07:50] <gonnaeatthat> ok
[07:50] <linuxmen> Vocs conhecem o site Desktop Livre?
[07:50] <Lbawinowns> strabes: yes
[07:50] <aubade> Eh, anyone actually recommend ext3 over ReiserFS(3)?
[07:50] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, Now there isn't an option to accept the download. Sorry havent used irc much. Easily be a config/settings problem.
[07:50] <gourdin> void^: gggnnfff ?
[07:51] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: i'm not sure, but if you not registered with nickserv it may not let you donwload the file.
[07:51] <kermitus> Unluckymike: I was even luckey enough to learn fdisk via terminal, and partitioned and formatted my usb drive.. lol graphical programs are sweet... but terminal was pretty fun too
[07:51] <Hobophobic> Can someone help? i'm trying to build svn kiba-dock but keep having unmet dependencies, not sure where to get the packages
[07:51] <void^> gourdin: ah, sorry, mistab, was meant for gonnaeatthat
[07:51] <gourdin> void^: :)
[07:51] <agus> algun espaol?
[07:51] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: sounds like a good time
[07:51] <Garnol> ive got a dual core processor by intel  .. i think my ubuntu dapper 6.06 deosnt use both cores ... how can i make sure it does ??
[07:51] <stp2007> UnluckyMike, I think I'm registered with Nickserv.
[07:51] <linuxmen> yeap
[07:52] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: yeah helps when I got my ubuntu bible next to me :)
[07:52] <UnluckyMike> stp2007: "/join #unluckymike"
[07:52] <rbanff1> Hi folks. Is there a trick to make the wireless of my HP dv6205us work? I can see the networks and try to join them, but, so far, no success. BTW, is this the right channel?
[07:52] <void^> Garnol: look at /proc/cpuinfo
[07:53] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: before my accident I was pretty good with linux.. im starting all over again, with a greater appriciation though. I am having a blast
[07:53] <seamus7> Anyone know why System/Admin/Services would stop working ... when I click to open Services I get a blank white window ... I have to Force Quit... thus I can't enable or disable services in that way.
[07:54] <dinochopins> hi all
[07:54] <Garnol> void^: this is a comman right ??
[07:54] <dinochopins> i run apt-get -f install
[07:54] <Samuli^> hi all
[07:54] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: thats good linux should be fun
[07:54] <kermitus> Anyone got any ideas on installing ubuntu to a external usb drive?
[07:54] <Samuli^> what is the difference between nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new drivers?
[07:54] <dinochopins> but it suggested 1 newly installed, 2 to remove and 3 not upgraded
[07:54] <void^> Garnol: a (virtual) textfile. a command might be 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'.
[07:54] <UnluckyMike> kermitus: there is some info on the forum about that
[07:55] <dinochopins> what if i just want to install and not to remove any packages ?
[07:55] <hdxx> Samuli^: i think glx-new is beta version, but i'm not sure
[07:55] <Garnol> void^: now i saw it ^^ ..
[07:55] <sgtmattbaker> hello, I modified one of my python scripts and now none of the changes I made to it are being used when I run it from the terminal.  What is going on
[07:55] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: i actually formatted my laptop drive.. running 100% linux.. :) i am forceing myself to relearn this oS if it kills me
[07:55] <kermitus> UnluckyMike: ahh sweet thanks, I will check the forums
[07:55] <Braddf0rd> I installed Kiba-Dock and it shows up and everything, but when I open the app it shows a black space with nothing on it... had to kill it to see my bottom panel
[07:55] <Garnol> void^: i dont understand what is written there .. :( ..
[07:55] <dinochopins> there are many broken dependencies ... and ubuntu suggest to run apg-get -f install.. and the i don't want to take any suggestion to remove the packages
[07:56] <Garnol> void^: it says something about Genuine Intel ..
[07:56] <Garnol> i have a centrino duo
[07:56] <[Jonne] > thanks gonnaeatthat, it worked :)
[07:56] <void^> Garnol: if it says "cpu cores: 2" and you get 2 almost identical blobs of text you have 2 running cores.
[07:57] <[Jonne] > i didn't realise those intel drivers were restricted too, i thought it was open source already
[07:57] <gonnaeatthat> [Jonne] : it happens sometimes, my two year old hit the keyboard a million times and i lost network everything lol
[07:57] <gonnaeatthat> thats only way I could fix that
[07:57] <Garnol> void^: it doesnt even talks about cpu cores .. so it doesnt use both of em
[07:57] <gonnaeatthat> [Jonne] : with the intel 3945 the disconnect and reconnect is not perfect yet either
[07:58] <[Jonne] > hmm, the only 2-year old on my computer is me, so i guess i just screwed up i guess ;)
[07:58] <yim> hello
[07:58] <Garnol> void^: do you know how to activate the second core ??
[07:58] <__Ace__> anyone here that can help me with odccm? (svn co https://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/odccm doesnt work for me)
[07:58] <brydon> Any suggestions to get past a pixelated, unreadable login screen post-install?
[07:58] <yim> i need help hopfully i could get some here cause over at the gentoo asshol channel the do not help you
[07:58] <luisbg> what's the best way to install the flash player for firefox in ubuntu?
[07:59] <void^> Garnol: what kernel are you running? 'uname -r'
[07:59] <[Jonne] > actually, it broke when i tried Nexuiz. Maybe it's a problem with that game
[08:00] <Garnol> void^: 2.6.15-23-386
[08:00] <Stormx2> brydon: Odd. Some kinda of strange resolution?
[08:00] <void^> Garnol: ah. you'll have to install an -smp kernel
[08:00] <yim> how do i install this on my pc
[08:00] <shwag> i just tried the VNC remote desktop and it is WAY too slow over the internet. Is there another option is thats better ?
[08:01] <Garnol> void^: do you have a tutorial ?? (you know im newbee ^^)
[08:01] <HymnToLife> Garnol, sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[08:01] <Garnol> ok
[08:01] <brydon> Stormx2: I suppose but no clue how to move forward. ctrl-atl-F1 and that shell is pixelated as well
[08:01] <yim> how do i install this on my pc
[08:01] <Garnol> void^: are there anythings i have to pay attention on ??
[08:01] <T2-AE1> Hi, every one.
[08:01] <Stormx2> brydon: Very strange. Do you have a very old / very new video card? strange monitor?
[08:01] <yim> hi i need help
[08:01] <rogue780|laptop> I tried to install vmware-player, and although it works, every time I try to use apt for anything else it tries to configure the subnet or whatnot...then it exits with errors. how do I make apt forget that it *needs* to continue trying to install vmware?
[08:02] <brydon> Stormx2: I posted more details here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=431808
[08:02] <brydon> Stormx2: No, entire machine is less than 3 months old
[08:02] <T2-AE1> Have any one install ubuntu on AUSU T2-AE1?
[08:02] <brydon> Stormx2: I was running fedora core on it and decided today was the day to switch
[08:02] <yim> how do i install this on my pc
[08:02] <brydon> Stormx2: regretting that right now
[08:03] <__Ace__> uh, did someone respond to me? (how to scroll up in irssi?)
[08:03] <UnluckyMike> fedora is crud...in my opinion
[08:03] <luisbg> what's the best way to install the flash player for firefox in ubuntu?
[08:03] <obi-1> hello
[08:03] <rogue780|laptop> I get the errors "Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:03] <rogue780|laptop>  vmware-player
[08:03] <rogue780|laptop> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:03] <rogue780|laptop> "
[08:03] <Stormx2> brydon: Please condense all your posts into one. You're more likely to get help then
[08:03] <Stormx2> !paste | rogue780|laptop
[08:03] <ubotu> rogue780|laptop: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:03] <rogue780|laptop> oops my bad. didn't mean to flood
[08:04] <obi-1> could anyone pint me in teh right direction for coniguring an ldap server
[08:04] <brydon> UnluckyMike: that's why I'm trying to get this machine to ubuntu
[08:04] <obi-1> point me
[08:04] <brydon> Stormx2: you mean repost as new topic?
[08:04] <acid_phyre> is 7.04 the newest or is 6.10 still?
[08:04] <dyrne> luisbg: either use the package or just download the plugin and drop in ~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or whatever.. those paths might not be exactly correct
[08:04] <void^> Garnol: well, just apt-get an smp-capable kernel and boot it. not sure about the package name, that has changed a little in the recent releases
[08:04] <rogue780|laptop> 7.04
[08:04] <Stormx2> brydon: No. Incorporate all your posts into the first post, then delete them
[08:05] <acid_phyre> so i should just get 7.04 then?
[08:05] <luisbg> dyrne, for linux ppc too?
[08:05] <Garnol> void^: its already downloading .. k then i will reboot after the install ..
[08:05] <stfxdick> hello all, I have a problem with my contrast of my computer
[08:05] <Stormx2> brydon: Did the live cd exhibit this behavior?
[08:05] <cjsoftuk> Han anyone here used nbd or gnbd before and could walk me through setting it up
[08:05] <cjsoftuk> *Has
[08:05] <dyrne> luisbg: hmm.. not sure
[08:06] <brydon> Stormx2: I didn't try the live cd on this system, should I?
[08:06] <Stormx2> brydon: Should have done. Did you use the alt cd for installing, then?
[08:06] <seamus7> How can I reset Services to default???
[08:06] <T2-AE1> Have any one install ubuntu on AUSU T2-AE1?
[08:06] <shinao1> does anyone know the root password on ubuntu installation discs?
[08:06] <sdfasdfawef> whats a good simple gui based FTP client for gnome?
[08:06] <stfxdick> you all know how ubuntu's contrast goes darker and darker until black as a screen saver? well now its still half way between dark and light. anyway i can fix it?
[08:06] <Acidz0r> seamus7, to default?
[08:07] <dyrne> anyone made an optimization script like a gui using zenity or something for speeding up default settings and using update-rc.d to remove unwanted stuff? i was thinking about making one
[08:07] <brydon> Stormx2: Yes, I thought I need that for raid support
[08:07] <Stormx2> shinao1: Use sudo, it won't ask for your password. You can use su - too I think.
[08:07] <Stormx2> brydon: i don't know, really
[08:07] <acid_phyre> so is 7.04 better then 6.10?
[08:07] <stfxdick> do any here know how i can fix the contrast? i am using 6.10
[08:08] <acid_phyre> like gui wise
[08:08] <seamus7> Acidz0r: well when I go to Services I get a blank white window and must Force Quit .... I had just enabled a service prior to this problem .... is there a way of disabling services through the terminal or via a directory or fie?
[08:08] <seamus7> file?
[08:08] <brydon> Stormx2: can you delete replies in forum?
[08:08] <shinao1> yes it wont Stormx2 but im trying to use the live session to mount a laptop hdd and copy stuff off to a usb removable drive. it mounts the partiton a readonly for root, im trying to make it accessible to the ubuntu user
[08:08] <Possum> shinao1, sudo -i to get a root shell
[08:08] <Stormx2> brydon: Go to edit, there should be a delete option in there...
[08:09] <Stormx2> shinao1: fat32?
[08:09] <shinao1> thanks Possum
[08:09] <Possum> np
[08:09] <shinao1> Stormx2: ntfs
[08:09] <Acidz0r> seamus7, try with rcconf
[08:09] <Stormx2> shinao1: You'd need to set up ntfs-3g
[08:09] <Possum> shinao1, oh, ntfs? good luck... look at ntfs-3g
[08:10] <UnluckyMike> shinao1: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[08:10] <seamus7> Acidz0r: ok i'm installing that now
[08:10] <zootm> can't you mount NTFS through ntfs-3g just by clicking it in nautilus now?
[08:10] <shinao1> i just wan to mount so that i can copy off of it
[08:10] <stfxdick> do anyone here know how to switch the contrast in ubuntu?
[08:10] <stfxdick> i am living in the dark here
[08:10] <zootm> i guess i've possibly missed an important part of this
[08:10] <art_> hello ppl
[08:10] <shinao1> does the live session have ntfs-3g ?
[08:10] <Stormx2> shinao1: To it, or from it? read only is fine if you're not making changes
[08:10] <strabes> shinao1: no
[08:10] <zootm> shinao1: Should do?
[08:10] <Kubuntu> What do I do when the trash disapears?
[08:10] <shinao1> from it
[08:10] <art_> what i need t do to run ragnarok online under ubuntu 6.10?
[08:10] <Stormx2> shinao1: No, but you can install it into the live session
[08:11] <Possum> shinao1, if you just wanna mount it readonly, I *think* you can chmod the directory... I'm not sure about that
[08:11] <shinao1> i want to copy from it
[08:11] <Stormx2> shinao1: read only is sufficient then. Why do you need rw?
[08:11] <zootm> shinao1: Ignore me, these people know better than me
[08:11] <kermitus> anyone got any tips on a good web dev editor? I am useing blufish, but the css stuff could be better.. any ideas on something better for css stuff?
[08:11] <voraistos> hi people. do you know where i can find a page or something talking about mobile wireless cards supported in the kernel ? such as atheros based ones, etc .. ?
[08:11] <seamus7> Acidz0r: do you think I ought to leave the defaults as is when i run rcconf?
[08:11] <strabes> shinao1: then you're fine. ubuntu can read ntfs by default, but it can't write to it without ntfs-3g
[08:11] <shinao1> i need the normal liveuser to be able to search the drive
[08:11] <shinao1> and entrr it
[08:11] <shinao1> enter*
[08:11] <Stormx2> kermitus: Hmm, I just use gedit myself. I'll have a look for you now.
[08:12] <zootm> kermitus: I tend to just use a text editor and the Web Developer extension for Firefox
[08:12] <strabes> voraistos: http://www.atheros.com/news/linux.html
[08:12] <shinao1> when it mounts i get permission denied from nautilus
[08:12] <Kubuntu> Any good sites that can tell me how to setup beryl?
[08:12] <Kubuntu> #ops
[08:12] <strabes> Kubuntu: wiki.beryl-project.org
[08:12] <Stormx2> !beryl | Kubuntu
[08:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:12] <zootm> kermitus: Nvu might be alright, it's based on Firefox
[08:12] <Possum> kermitus, if you want something in the terminal with syntax hilighting, etc., try vim or emacs (if I say just one I'll get flamed)
[08:12] <zootm> kermitus: Well, Gecko, but you know what I mean
[08:13] <voraistos> cheers strabes. i need to buy a new one as the linux drivers provided with mine sucks ass, and no ndiswrapper ever on my machine :P
[08:13] <zootm> here's a random question
[08:13] <robinsjostrom> i installed ubuntu with grub and i didnt get to choose it when starting my computer it did just boot up windows
[08:13] <brydon> Stormx2: just tried booting a livecd (6.10) that I have and I get the exact same issue
[08:13] <seamus7> Acidz0r: I can't remember if bootclean, avahi-daemon, bootlogd, hdparm, laptop-mode, etc. are necessary ... they're disabled by default in rcconf ... i guess i'm a bit afraid of making things worse... any encouraging words here?
[08:13] <zootm> does Rhythmbox lock up completely for anyone else when accessing "Properties" of a file?
[08:13] <kermitus> zootm: well i use a text editor too.. i need something that can add css declartion stuff.. kind of a cheat sheet..
[08:13] <strabes> voraistos: then buy an intel/PRO wireless. they have full support
[08:13] <strabes> voraistos: out of the box
[08:13] <zootm> kermitus: Visual Studio has completion for CSS ;)
[08:13] <kermitus> Zoomt oh i have been useing emacs
[08:14] <art_> what i need t do to run ragnarok online under ubuntu 6.10?
[08:14] <zootm> kermitus: I don't know any other editors that do, though, I think that NetBeans *might* but that's a bit heavyweight for what you want
[08:14] <aubade> Alright folks, never had to dual-boot before -- will just be a temp thing. So, err.. is there an order of things installation-wise, will Windows overwrite Grub if I threw it in hd0?
[08:14] <kermitus> does vis studio or macromedia dreamweaver work good on linux?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> can someone give me some assitance
[08:14] <dduong> art_:  What you need to do is install wine.  Here is a link: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=928
[08:14] <Stormx2> brydon: 7.04?
[08:14] <EverythingEvil2> so is it sacreligious if i try mint?
[08:15] <zootm> kermitus: As far as I'm aware neither of them work at all, I was joking I'm afraid!
[08:15] <kermitus> i normally use dreamweaver cs3 for cheat sheet stuff.. but was not sure if it would work well on ubuntu
[08:15] <DaSkreech>  I just require a Net connection (;-)) the abilty to change your resolution above 800x600 and java
[08:15] <kermitus> lol
[08:15] <EverythingEvil2> i heard kubuntu 7.04 isnt as good as ubuntu 7.04
[08:15] <neverblue> how can I add an & on a cli to launch an app with sudo ?
[08:15] <gonnaeatthat> how do i remove a partition with just a lost and found folder? i wanted that to be my main partition but it is not being used and other partition is 90% full
[08:15] <voraistos> strabes: hmm no, i used to have one and i needed to patch the kernel to make it work for some reason. and "alternative" drivers dont work with it. i used to have a pcmcia nec atheros based card, but no pcmcia on my new laptop.
[08:15] <brydon>  Stormx2: no 6.10, I don't have a 7.04 livecd kicking around
[08:15] <aubade> EverythingEvil2: I also heard that cats pwn dogs.
[08:15] <T2-AE1> Have any one install ubuntu on AUSU T2-AE1?
[08:15] <stojance> To whom can I talk to about a VERY serious bug!?
[08:15] <RedACE> System -> Administration -> Network -> DNS -> Search domains. I enter a handful of domains in here and they appear in /etc/resolve.conf. But later I check and they're gone. I suspect the dhcpclient is removing them when it recreates this file. Is there a way to fix this?
[08:16] <EverythingEvil2> aubade, well, i mean with all the drivers and codec stuff
[08:16] <aubade> Seriously though, it's a matter of taste.
[08:16] <stojance> RedACE: here you go
[08:16] <strabes> voraistos: you used to have one what? intel PRO/Wireless?
[08:16] <Stormx2> brydon: Verified the iso, checked the cd for defects?
[08:16] <stojance> RedACE has the bug!!!
[08:16] <DaSkreech> http://mathsnet.net/algebra/a32.html
[08:16] <voraistos> strabes: yep
[08:16] <RedACE> ?
[08:16] <stojance> RedACE: do this
[08:16] <kermitus> stormx2 what were you looking for?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> IF someone with Java installed could go to that site
[08:16] <strabes> voraistos: they work out of the box now; i have one...
[08:16] <Kubuntu> I think Kubuntu is better, gnome looks bad.
[08:16] <kermitus> its too bad bbedit dont work on linux
[08:16] <stojance> argh... this channel is cramped... can I PM you?
[08:16] <stojance> RedACE ^^
[08:16] <letharion> neverblue: U could use screen
[08:16] <RedACE> sure
[08:16] <stojance> ok
[08:16] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu: Wonderful. Join #kubuntu
[08:17] <neverblue> letharion, an example?
[08:17] <neverblue> say using gedit?
[08:17] <EverythingEvil2> im not saying kde vs gnome
[08:17] <Acidz0r> seamus7, if you are not sure of wich daemons to shut down leave 'em marked, just disable the ones you don't need.
[08:17] <Stormx2> kermitus: A nice css editor for you :P
[08:17] <strabes> Kubuntu: yay!!!
[08:17] <T2-AE1>                                   Have any one install ubuntu on AUSU T2-AE1?
[08:17] <EverythingEvil2> just mint vs kubuntu in ease of use
[08:17] <voraistos> strabes i know, but its the old mini pci as well, and still i need something with more.. functionalities. for ntwork exploration and security issues.
[08:17] <letharion> neverblue: Just to clarify, you want to run a graphical program from a terminal, but also close the terminal?
[08:17] <strabes> voraistos: ok then go for it
[08:17] <kermitus> stormx2: oh sweet, let me know if you find one, I am looking too
[08:17] <letharion> neverblue: Without killing the program
[08:17] <neverblue> letharion, negative
[08:18] <neverblue> sudo gedit mytext.conf &
[08:18] <sgray> myth tv comes pre packaged now with 7.04
[08:18] <neverblue> something like that
[08:18] <Stormx2> neverblue: gksudo
[08:18] <sgray> does it usually work with default install
[08:18] <stojance> RedACE: are you registered to Freenode?
[08:18] <RedACE> yes
[08:18] <DaSkreech> http://mathsnet.net/algebra/a32.html
[08:18] <neverblue> Stormx2, seems like there are alot of sudos :)
[08:18] <RedACE> -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized
[08:18] <RedACE> * services. sets mode +e RedACE
[08:18] <neverblue> gksudo, sudo, and what else?
[08:18] <Kubuntu> How can I capture the screen (ion a movie)?
[08:18] <brussel_> what's the name of the grep that does aproximations by one or two chars?
[08:19] <stojance> RedACE: then ok...
[08:19] <Stormx2> neverblue: sudo and gksudo are the ones you need to worry about.
[08:19] <neverblue> k, thanks Stormx2
[08:19] <brussel_> or is that an option of grep?
[08:19] <letharion> Kubuntu: If you use vlc there's a builtin function for that. Ksnapshot can also be used
[08:19] <kermitus> hmm i wounder if there is something like bbedit for linux.. sort of a knock off
[08:19] <DaSkreech> letharion: to make a movie?
[08:19] <Possum> brussel_, you can do something like grep [Ee] xample is that what you want?
[08:20] <robinsjostrom> strabes: join again i need some help
[08:20] <sgray> any have any guides to setup myth tv
[08:20] <gonnaeatthat> what the easiest way to reinstall ubuntu? lol
[08:20] <brussel_> possum, naw, there's a versiion of grep that does it automatically
[08:20] <letharion> DaSkreech: To capture a screen
[08:20] <gonnaeatthat> i gotta fix these partitions bad
[08:20] <DaSkreech> gonnaeatthat: With the CD :)
[08:20] <RedACE> put the CD in and reboot?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have Java Installed?
[08:20] <gonnaeatthat> lol
[08:20] <RedACE> same way you installed..
[08:20] <dyrne> gonnaeatthat: before you reinstall.. what is the problem?
[08:20] <UnluckyMike> DaSkreech: yes
[08:21] <stojance> Guys should I talk to Canonical about this bug? It is very serious and no one seems to care about solving it! I have the solution, don't worry!!!
[08:21] <gonnaeatthat> dyrne let me take a screenshot to show ya :)
[08:21] <Possum> brussel_, hmm... dunno about that.. you can do -i if you just wanna ignore case >.>
[08:21] <DaSkreech> UnluckyMike: can you check something for me quickly?
[08:21] <UnluckyMike> DaScreech: maybe
[08:21] <DaSkreech> stojance: Submit the patch then
[08:21] <brussel_> possum, i think it's probably agrep
[08:21] <RedACE> stojance: have you messaged me? I don't see anything.
[08:21] <stojance> RedACE: yup
[08:21] <Stormx2> stojance: Explain.
[08:21] <obi-1> hello
[08:21] <DaSkreech> UnluckyMike: http://mathsnet.net/algebra/a32.html can you go to that website
[08:21] <brussel_> possum, i forgot that man -k grep would give me the names of all the various greps
[08:21] <RedACE> I didn't get it
[08:22] <seamus7> Anyone having a problem when trying to access System/Admin/Services???
[08:22] <dinochopins> hi all
[08:22] <Possum> brussel_, Heh, yea it does :P
[08:22] <RedACE> ./j #stojance-redace
[08:22] <dinochopins> i've got error in my installation saying cannot resolve hostname
[08:22] <stojance> Stormx2: It's very easy! There is a package that needs to be added for installation in the Live CD
[08:22] <dinochopins> "trying localhost.localdomain... failed "
[08:22] <DaSkreech> UnluckyMike: When it loads press Answer twice and tell me if it goes off the edge of the screen
[08:22] <dinochopins> if i type hostname -f
[08:22] <dinochopins> it says "abc-desktop"
[08:22] <Stormx2> stojance: Which package, and why is it necessary?
[08:22] <dinochopins> how can I change my hostname ?
[08:24] <obi-1> does anybody know the command for changind an ldap users password
[08:24] <UnluckyMike> DaScreech, doesn't look like anything is amiss
[08:24] <DaSkreech> dinochopins: Permanently ?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> obi-1: slappasswd as far as I know
[08:24] <DaSkreech> UnluckyMike: What resolotin are you running at?
[08:24] <UnluckyMike> 1400x900
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Resolution
[08:24] <brydon> Stormx2: cd check passed, reposted clean post...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=431950
[08:24] <DaSkreech> >_<
[08:24] <DaSkreech> UnluckyMike: Ok
[08:24] <stojance> Stormx2: Most of the ADSL users don't get the dns servers good... something erases them from /etc/resolv.conf
[08:24] <DaSkreech> I can't put the computers here above 800x600
[08:24] <gonnaeatthat> dyrne: look at this partition setup somehow i hosed it and need to redo to make room the 13 gig partition has only a lost+ found folder
[08:24] <gonnaeatthat> dyrne: http://www.gonnaeatthat.net/wp-content/uploads/Images/Screenshot--dev-sda%20-%20GParted.png
[08:24] <DaSkreech> I think that may be the problem
[08:24] <josh__> I believe the hostname file is under /etc/hostname
[08:24] <stojance> Stormx2: that's why a Package must be added for default installation in the Live CD...
[08:24] <stojance> Stormx2: it's called resolvconf
[08:24] <RedACE> the dhcp client rewrites resolv.conf
[08:24] <dinochopins> DaSreech: yupe... cause I need to turn the box into a server :)
[08:24] <POVaddct> !automatix
[08:24] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:24] <RedACE> there's an option to disable rewriting part of it, iirc
[08:25] <Ranpha1> can somebody help me with grub? I have a LVm with encryption and i screwed up grub
[08:25] <DaSkreech> dinochopins: edit /etc/hostname and reboot
[08:25] <gonnaeatthat> dyrne: I thought when i setup the partition it would leave all the space available after my swap, but broke into two partitions
[08:25] <DaSkreech> or sudo hostname <newname>
[08:26] <dinochopins> DaSkreech : restart the network or reboot ?
[08:26] <josh__> I read about a live cd called supergrub, I think, that is deisgned to detect installations
[08:26] <DaSkreech> UnluckyMike: Thanks I will have to write the page providers and ask them to review that
[08:26] <Ranpha1> josh_ i ahve knoppix no but grub can't find anything
[08:26] <DaSkreech> dinochopins: either
[08:26] <UnluckyMike> DaScreech; no problem
[08:26] <dinochopins> DaSkreech : will do that, thanks :)
[08:27] <dinochopins> josh__ : thanks... the solution also has been solved by DaSkreech :)
[08:27] <josh__> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[08:27] <sNixx> hiya
[08:27] <wirelessmonkey> hello
[08:28] <sgray> what is the best way to install mythtv
[08:28] <sNixx> :D i have quite a big issue with installing ubuntu (or even running it from cd) basically it says it cannot find any display
[08:28] <sgray> from add programs?
[08:28] <basstard> n #internets
[08:28] <wirelessmonkey> sNixx: What video card do you have?
[08:28] <sgray> it says it is download ing the files
[08:28] <art_> dduong: i can run ro from cd (whit rpiv serv patch) or i need to install it again?
[08:29] <josh__> sNixx when it hits the command line, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf change the display driver to vesa
[08:29] <wirelessmonkey> sNixx: Do you get to the command line?
[08:29] <sNixx> its a pci geforce 5500, i know its not exactly uber but it should work and did work in past versions prior to 6.x if i remember when i tried it last
[08:29] <Hobophobic> Anyone know an easy way to install GTK+?
[08:29] <josh__> then type startx
[08:29] <sgray> anyone know how to get mythtv going
[08:29] <gonnaeatthat> UnluckyMike: got enough energy to help again :) i need help repartitioning check this out  http://www.gonnaeatthat.net/wp-content/uploads/Images/Screenshot--dev-sda%20-%20GParted.png
[08:30] <sNixx> ah ok josh__ i will try that
[08:30] <source> Hello
[08:30] <asherZ> hi i just installed beryl and added beryl-manager to sessions but i dont see the diamond in panel or beryls affects
[08:30] <skyhook> hey if I uninstall wine will it delete all the programs that I installed with it?
[08:31] <letharion> skyhook: Not automatically
[08:31] <wirelessmonkey> sNixx: PM me if that won't work for you, I'll send you instructions for installing the nvidia drivers
[08:31] <source> Im looking for some help......... Completely NEW at linux
[08:31] <Hobophobic> asherZ: run beryl-manager
[08:31] <letharion> skyhook: You need to remove .wine to do that
[08:31] <neverblue> need some direction in setting up apache2 in ubuntu, so I have a sites-available in /etc/apache2/, now is this a required "virtual host", and I need to add another "vh", or should I just change it appropriately?
[08:31] <skyhook> letharion: so if I delete that folder after I uninstall all will be gone and as good as new?
[08:31] <wirelessmonkey> source: what's up?
[08:31] <sNixx> ok, well if i can get into the system its all good, i might be back:O
[08:32] <neverblue> seems each apache install can be very different, by what #apache tells me
[08:32] <asherZ> Hobophobic how from applications> settings> beryl?
[08:32] <letharion> skyhook: Basically, y. What is it you wish to accomplish?
[08:32] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue:  you need a new VH for each distinct site.
[08:32] <Hobophobic> in terminal or alt + F2
[08:32] <asherZ> says could not open location
[08:32] <skyhook> letharion: i tried installing steam and it didnt really work for me and im dual booting so, not really worth the effort to get it to work, so i want to get rid of it
[08:33] <wimdows> any good guides on starting development on ubuntu?
[08:33] <priich> is there any way to get xorg to release back some memory ? it uses ridiculous amounts and makes my other apps crash because of not enough memory..
[08:33] <yagami_> hi, is it possible to install the old nvidia-glx proprietary driver on my old geforce fx card and get beryl to work with it?
[08:33] <asherZ> i done alt +F2 then typed beryl-manager
[08:33] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue:  actually, not technically true, but helpful...
[08:33] <Hobophobic> did you install beryl-manager?
[08:33] <asherZ> like sudo apt-get install beryl emerald-themes
[08:33] <Hobophobic> sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[08:34] <asherZ> oops ^
[08:34] <asherZ> ^
[08:34] <Hobophobic> then run it from terminal
[08:34] <letharion> skyhook: Then y, do what I said before :)
[08:34] <yagami_> umm...anyone/
[08:34] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, just to clarify, I have a <vh *> tag beginning the file, so I would need to add to that tag, or create a <vh new> tag, to say, point to a users dir?
[08:35] <skyhook> letharion: okay thanks
[08:35] <skyhook> :)
[08:35] <source> I just started at linux yesterday
[08:35] <neverblue> also, how do I restart apache2?
[08:35] <source> and installed ubuntu on a laptop
[08:35] <source> however... I've been studying it for a while
[08:35] <asherZ> thanks it works how could i remove the big logo from panel but enable manager?
[08:35] <neverblue> sudo /etc/init.d ?? restart ?
[08:35] <source> ok... for a start
[08:35] <source> whats beryl, XGL, etc?
[08:35] <source> tc?
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[08:35] <source> desktop managers?
[08:35] <Hobophobic> just right click on the logo and exit, it'll still be running
[08:35] <source> whats the difference?
[08:35] <asherZ> thanks
[08:36] <source> whats compys?
[08:36] <msingh> is there a way to install ubuntu without having any cd media?
[08:36] <zootm> source: don't worry about XGL. Beryl/Compiz are window managers which add fancy special effects
[08:36] <drew> is there a linux *.rar prog?
[08:36] <Myrtti> !enter | source
[08:36] <ubotu> source: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:36] <zootm> source: Compiz and Beryl are basically the same thing
[08:36] <source> ok
[08:36] <krishghosh> msingh: usb, directly from the net
[08:36] <asherZ> should i force remdering platform nVidia under advanced beryl options?
[08:36] <source> And whats better? Beryl? Compiz?
[08:36] <asherZ> rendering* i have nv 6800
[08:37] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue: sudo /path/to/apache2/binary/ restart
[08:37] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, that doesnt work
[08:37] <zootm> neverblue: sudo apache2ctl restart
[08:37] <neverblue> zootm?
[08:37] <letharion> drew: there's an "unrar" terminal application, and I believe some GUI-program that interact with it
[08:37] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue: I'm confused about your vh setup
[08:37] <msingh> krishghosh, ok, i have a small usb .. and an internet connection. could i download a small bootstrap version of ubuntu and do a net install?
[08:37] <drew> letharion: that's the name, couldn't remember it, thank u
[08:38] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, its just a normal new install setu
[08:38] <zootm> neverblue: The command I said there should restart apache2
[08:38] <neverblue> yes, zootm its unusual though :)
[08:38] <source> And wich one is better? Beryl or Compiz?
[08:38] <krishghosh> msingh: yes, but you would need a broadband connection ideally
[08:38] <Jarekb84> how do i navigate to desktop in terminal?
[08:38] <Ix0s> source, Beryl
[08:38] <mon^rch> source: compiz
[08:38] <source> thanks Ix0s
[08:38] <msingh> krishghosh, that is no problem. Where should i start?
[08:38] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue: may I pm an example?
[08:38] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, i have a default fle in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[08:39] <Hobophobic> you shouldn't need to force any rendering asherZ
[08:39] <letharion> Jarekb84: cd ~/Desktop
[08:39] <neverblue> sure wirelessmonkey pm me
[08:39] <zootm> neverblue: There's probably an init script for it too, yeah, it just comes with its own control app - man apache2ctl will tell you more stuff you can do with it
[08:39] <source> huh? why is that mon-rch?
[08:39] <deCon> i need some help sorting out some in-firefox videos...i think the plugins and beryl are having a bug
[08:39] <neverblue> zootm, what happened to sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart?
[08:39] <zootm> source: Beryl has fancier effects and Compiz is more stable. They are basically the same thing, though, and they're merging the two programs back together
[08:39] <neverblue> thats why I thought it was unusualy
[08:39] <krishghosh> msingh: start here:- http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797.html
[08:40] <neverblue> unusual*
[08:40] <mon^rch> source: it "feels" smoother... beryl has more "toys" and a better config..
[08:40] <zootm> neverblue: As far as I'm aware that works too?
[08:40] <alistair_blunt> deCon: i've the same problem with firefox and mozilla and totem
[08:40] <neverblue> negative
[08:40] <neverblue> its listed in /etc/init.d
[08:40] <neverblue> but a restart/start/stop does nothing
[08:40] <msingh> krishghosh, that's from 2004..
[08:40] <source> so... compiz is smoother, however beryl has more "power toys" right?
[08:41] <slogeo> I'm new here not sure what to do
[08:41] <zootm> neverblue: I just tried it and it worked for me?
[08:41] <mon^rch> source: nods
[08:41] <neverblue> i just removed apache2 and apache-perl, then reinstalled apache2
[08:41] <zootm> source: Basically, yes. But theoretically they'll both be the same program pretty soon, which will probably be called "Compiz"
[08:41] <yagami_> someone please help? :( has anyone tried installing the old nvidia-glx drivers from nvidia to get beryl running on cards that are no longer supported by nvidia-glx-drivers since feisty?
[08:41] <neverblue> so that might be causing some issues
[08:41] <deCon> alistair_blunt, any ideas? i'm googling for bugs w/ beryl... essentially no videos play properly if at all...mostly not at all, and some crash firefox/swiftfox
[08:41] <slogeo> am I on the oncology chat page
[08:41] <neverblue> yagami_, use the ubuntu guide (google it) to install the latest drivers
[08:42] <Yahooadam> if i do glxinfo | grep -i direct - gnome restarts - im on a SiS integrated thingy
[08:42] <mon^rch> source: compiz will keep its name and have a fork called compiz-comm or something like that
[08:42] <awpti> what's the name of the doom/doom2 executable for xorg?
[08:42] <Hobophobic> Anybody know an easy way to install GTK+?
[08:42] <krishghosh> msingh: basics still hold.... may be you can download the iso, put it in a seperate partition and make it bootable... should work, never tried myself though
[08:42] <source> beryl is changing its name?
[08:42] <alistair_blunt> deCon: yes the same to me i've searched and searched but...noting i've tried helped
[08:42] <zootm> Yahooadam: There's probably something humped with your driver setup but I've not clue whatsoever what that'd be
[08:42] <yagami_> neverblue: i know how to get that done- but problem is beryl won't work, if i install nvidia-glx-drivers. the latest proprietary drivers don't support the card i am using anymore
[08:42] <Erealz> hi their everyone real simple and  quick question how do I move a dir contents to another dir ??
[08:42] <mon^rch> source: stick with compiz... it's plenty eye candy ;)
[08:43] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue: no pms I guess...
[08:43] <zootm> source: Beryl is based on Compiz; now the changes that were made to make Beryl are getting put into Compiz and they're becoming one program again, or so i hear
[08:43] <neverblue> yagami_, direct your attention to #ubuntu-effects
[08:43] <source> ok
[08:43] <deCon> alistair_blunt, crappy... have you tried the beryl guys?
[08:43] <Erealz> via command terminal
[08:43] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, :(
[08:43] <msingh> krishghosh, i make the iso bootable?
[08:43] <source> oh!
[08:43] <neverblue> not registered?
[08:43] <ubuntu-mythtv> anyone good at configuring myth tv?
[08:43] <alistair_blunt> no i didn't
[08:43] <sNixx> im  back!, well i got it working via safe mode graphics
[08:43] <aNtiBiOteK> i have a dual monitor setup, i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399643 to install xgl server... the setup went fine, but when i get into Gnome XGL interface it does not recognize the monitor boundaries and the taskbars strech all the way off the screen.  how can i get it to recognize the monitor boundaries right?
[08:43] <Erealz> hi their everyone real simple and  quick question how do I move a dir contents to another dir ?? via command terminal
[08:43] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, we can just join a random channel?
[08:43] <krishghosh> msingh: no the partition
[08:43] <source> is it possible to setup compiz on ubuntu 7?
[08:44] <aNtiBiOteK> eralz:  mv -R sourcedir destdir
[08:44] <Ix0s> source, It comes preinstalled
[08:44] <mon^rch> Erealz: mv *.* <location> ???
[08:44] <Ix0s> source, Try system-->preferences-->desktop effects
[08:44] <source> with the "cube effect" and all?
[08:44] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19003/
[08:44] <Ix0s> source, AFAIK
[08:44] <bakert> I am running Dapper on a thinkpad T43.  my sound always used to work, now it doesn't.  does anyone know where to start.  i've tried alsamixer and system, preferences, sound.
[08:44] <mattis> j'ai un soucis, feisty m'a rduit mon DL le network manager m'affiche 100mo de DL
[08:45] <source> afaik?
[08:45] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, that works too :)
[08:45] <Ix0s> !fr | mattis
[08:45] <ubotu> mattis: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:45] <Erealz> mv yes but about when you want to move the contenet of the dir
[08:45] <Ix0s> source, As far as i know
[08:45] <mon^rch> source: compiz is already part of ubuntu :)
[08:45] <msingh> krishghosh, sounds error-prone.. i think i'll leave it for now
[08:45] <wirelessmonkey> neverblue: We're smart like that ;)
[08:45] <source> heh
[08:45] <krishghosh> msingh: just came up with this blog, sounds good...http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[08:45] <neverblue> wirelessmonkey, so that is close to whats listed in my default
[08:45] <zootm> source: You can get the wobbly windows and cube effect in the newest Ubuntu from System/Preferences/Desktop effects
[08:45] <Jarekb84> how would i go bout installing flash in 7.04 x64?
[08:46] <bakert> I used to be able to do "killall esd" but that does no good now either
[08:46] <neverblue> so my question was, do I need to make a new <vh>, or just use the current one, to point to my users /home/public_html
[08:46] <aNtiBiOteK> was anyone able to get xgl to run right on dual-monitor ATI ?
[08:46] <bakert> Is there another way to "restart sound"?
[08:46] <source> ok... let me try it :)
[08:46] <neverblue> so add a new <directory>
[08:46] <source> novel developed compiz?
[08:46] <source> novell*
[08:46] <mon^rch> source: you DO need opengl drivers installed...
[08:47] <dyrne> bakert: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart     <-- maybe
[08:47] <seamus7> What might be causing Services to freeze when I open it???
[08:47] <msingh> krishghosh, i dont understand what he did to get it to work
[08:47] <source> i have the lastest nvidia, but im still trying to figure it out how to install those
[08:47] <art_> any1 know how to run ragnarok online whit wine?
[08:48] <mon^rch> source: just use the ubuntu nvidia-glx package :)
[08:48] <source> ok
[08:48] <bakert> dyrne, restarted ok .. but no sound.  the machine thinks it has sound - different to when it is completely not working but i can't hear anything and it's not muted or turned down low!
[08:48] <nuxil> is ther issues with mythtv version 0.20.20060828-3 and ivtv module 0.10.1
[08:48] <bakert> it will happily play mp3s or video files, but i hear nothing
[08:48] <neverblue> does apache2 on ubuntu need to use both apache.conf and httpd.conf?
[08:49] <source> and im trully sorry for all the trouble
[08:49] <Jarekb84> when i go to add/remove applications and try to install macromedia flash, the check box is greyed out and I can't click on it, how can install flash?
[08:49] <bakert> neverblue, i dont think it uses httpd.conf
[08:49] <source> one question....
[08:49] <kane77> Jarekb84, are you on 64-bit?
[08:49] <Jarekb84> yes
[08:49] <bakert> neverblue, actually i may be wrong ... i do have one
[08:49] <source> do you know of any image manager (like ACDSee for windows) for linux?
[08:50] <kane77> Jarekb84, then you are in not-so-easy situation...
[08:50] <bakert> neverblue, there is a note in my httpd.conf that says it is there for backwards compatabilyt blah blah
[08:50] <kane77> Jarekb84, there is no flash for 64-bit OS yet
[08:50] <Braddf0rd> Hey, I'm using a Dell with Intel (I think) 940 Integrated Graphics, and when in Linux it'll only allow me to run at 1024x768, and it's a wide screen
[08:50] <mon^rch> source: make sure you install the restricted modules for your running kernel TOO
[08:50] <Jarekb84> since I just installed, would it be easier to just go back to x86?
[08:50] <Braddf0rd> How do I fix that?
[08:50] <bakert> What would you do first if your sound stopped working?
[08:50] <neverblue> then i wonder why my new install doesnt create a "skeleton" httpd.conf?
[08:50] <mon^rch> source: I use gqview...
[08:51] <kane77> Jarekb84, if you want you can install 32-bit version of firefox with flash...
[08:51] <bakert> neverblue, did for me
[08:51] <neverblue> this is very odd
[08:51] <bakert> neverblue, but that was dapper
[08:51] <neverblue> can I get it from your bakert ?
[08:51] <Jarekb84> as in, would I face more problems by using 64 bit with other programs?
[08:51] <bakert> neverblue, let me check my feisty machine
[08:51] <neverblue> thanks
[08:51] <neverblue> make sure its apache2 as well
[08:51] <source> how do i install that restricted module?
[08:51] <SlimeyPete> Jarekb84: most programs are available for 64-bit Linux
[08:51] <kane77> Jarekb84, i guess not.. I'm using it without any problems...
[08:51] <bakert> neverblue, yep same thing there.  download it from http://bluebones.net/httpd.conf but wait ten secs while i put it there!
[08:52] <Jarekb84> ok, thanks kane
[08:52] <kane77> Jarekb84, np
[08:52] <bakert> neverblue, ok it's there
[08:52] <mon^rch> source: open synaptic and search for "linux-restricted" and pick the one that matches the kernel you are running...
[08:52] <bakert> neverblue, i can't imagine what it would do, though
[08:53] <bakert> If you haven't got any sound, but it worked a few days ago, what would you try?
[08:53] <krishghosh> msingh: at the moment it seems that my initial url is the most workable one, though old, it should still work
[08:54] <art_> any1 know how to run ragnarok online whit wine?
[08:54] <BetaCookies> Hey
[08:54] <neverblue> bakert, is it just me, or is it only 4-5 lines?
[08:54] <Braddf0rd>  Hey, I'm using a Dell with Intel (I think) 940 Integrated Graphics, and when in Linux it'll only allow me to run at 1024x768, and it's a wide screen
[08:54] <BetaCookies> How do I know if my drivers support AIGLX?
[08:54] <Flannel> !fixres | Braddf0rd
[08:54] <ubotu> Braddf0rd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:55] <bakert> neverblue, that's right - just comments!
[08:55] <Flannel> BetaCookies: #ubuntu-effects will hook you up.  But, basically, you just look it up (theres a known listing of cards that ought to work and stuff)
[08:55] <bakert> neverblue, i don't see how it can be crucial to anything.  what's the problem you are having?
[08:55] <BetaCookies> Flannel okay
[08:55] <Gungazoo> Hello -- I'm new to Ubuntu but familiar with Linux.  I just installed Feisty and noticed some things I don't want (like PPP) installed.  If I try to uninstall it says a number of things depend on it such as the Ubuntu desktop.  Is there an easy way to get rid of some apps I'm not going to use?
[08:55] <neverblue> bakert, well, i had to remove/reinstall apache, just ironing out the issues
[08:56] <Flannel> Gungazoo: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, it's safe to remove.
[08:56] <neverblue> can you make apache2.conf available as well (temporarily)?
[08:56] <Gungazoo> Awesome -- Thanks.
[08:56] <letharion> art_: Did you check winehqs appdb? There's often good instructions there :)
[08:57] <Gungazoo> It didn't make sense that one was dependent on the other.
[08:57] <seamus7> Hi.. anyone know what this means... when I try to start Services by using "gksu services-admin" in a terminal I get an error message: "(services-admin:16431): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."
[08:57] <bakert> huzzah
[08:57] <bakert> sound problem fixed.
[08:57] <Flannel> neverblue: you need to purge apache2-common (or apache2.2-common) then reinstall, the "apache2" package won't do that
[08:57] <bakert> PCM was muted.  god i am an idiot.  general debugging on this page was what helped me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:57] <Flannel> neverblue: and, httpd.conf is empty.  Ubuntu (and debian systems) don't use it.  Instead they use a mixture of apache2.conf, and the stuff in sites-enabled, and hte stuff in mods-enabled.
[08:57] <neverblue> Flannel, whats the command exactly?
[08:58] <neverblue> Flannel, right, im finding that out
[08:58] <Flannel> neverblue: you on feisty? or dapper/edgy?
[08:58] <source> hey mon... do you know of any plugin that allows windows to be taken and flipped as a "book page"?
[08:58] <neverblue> feisty
[08:58] <Intangir> what is a program you can use to type to other people LOGGED INTO YOUR BOX?
[08:58] <Intangir> like with a chat interface?
[08:58] <SlimeyPete> Intangir: "who"
[08:58] <SlimeyPete> Intangir: oh, sorry
[08:58] <SlimeyPete> I misread
[08:58] <Flannel> neverblue: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2.2-common
[08:58] <cjsoftuk> Anyone know about gnbd or nbd
[08:58] <Intangir> SlimeyPete: right idea though, the people who i can 'who' i want to chat with them
[08:59] <rellik> is there a good howto for getting wireless to work under fiesty? I keep reading that they finally got wireless to "just work" but it doesn't for me
[08:59] <Flannel> neverblue: thn install apache2 (sudo apt-get install apache2)
[08:59] <neverblue> earlier i did sudo aptitude purge apache2 apache-perl
[08:59] <neverblue> then used synaptic to reinstall apache2
[08:59] <SlimeyPete> Intangir: you can use "wall" to send messages, not sure how you send to a specific user
[09:00] <neverblue> so dont use synaptic is your suggestion?
[09:00] <source> hey mon... do you know of any plugin that allows windows to be taken and flipped as a "book page"? its something i saw in youtube
[09:00] <aubade> Can SATA drives have <3 primary partitions or something?
[09:00] <Flannel> neverblue: Oh, synaptic will work too.  In synaptic, find apache2.2-common, then click it and mark it for "complete removal"
[09:00] <Flannel> neverblue: then reinstall apache2 (complete-removal is equivalent to --purge)
[09:00] <neverblue> ah, ok
[09:00] <neverblue> lets try this again
[09:00] <neverblue> one more thing though
[09:01] <neverblue> to remove the .conf?
[09:01] <neverblue> or the entire dirs, etc..
[09:01] <Flannel> neverblue: purging apache2 won't do it, since the "apache2" package doesn't install the config stuff, apache2.2-common does
[09:01] <neverblue> ahh, ok
[09:01] <neverblue> thanks Flannel
[09:02] <pablo-uy-mvd> hi! ive installed 7.04 and using Sabayon profile manager. I customized a profile inside sabayon but sabayon wont save changes i made to the desktop :( ideas?
[09:02] <aubade> Greater than, even, argh!
[09:02] <Intangir> anyone else know of a program that lets you chat with people shelled into your machine?
[09:02] <piNNoy> how come when i add a skydome, it just shows the color of my pic and not the pic itself?
[09:02] <Possum> Intangir, screen -x :)
[09:02] <pablo-uy-mvd> it does save changes made to the panel but not to the desktop
[09:03] <Possum> Intangir, it's not quite what you want, but it's useful for sharing terminal sessions
[09:03] <piNNoy> how come when i add a skydome, it just shows the color of my pic and not the pic itself? (beryl)
[09:03] <beni> I want to install an older Win32 Game via wine, "Wine Setup.exe" Shos the Installation Configuration (Path, Components etc.) but when the Installation should start there does no "progress bar" show up, only an dialog:"Do you want to quit the install"
[09:05] <Flannel> piNNoy: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl might be able to help you.
[09:05] <piNNoy> flannel: ty
[09:05] <fangorious> how do I stop my wired ethernet conncetion from using NetworkManager? I still want DHCP but I want to have a couple extra DNS search domains the DHCP server doesn't advertise
[09:06] <beni> !help wine
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help wine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <beni> !info wine
[09:06] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[09:06] <piNNoy> !help skydome
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help skydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <piNNoy> !info skydome
[09:06] <ubotu> Package skydome does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:07] <Pici> !wine | beni
[09:07] <ubotu> beni: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:07] <fangorious> piNNoy: try #ubuntu-effects for help with beryl/compiz
[09:07] <beni> !thanks | Pici
[09:07] <beni> ;)
[09:07] <piNNoy> im there every1 afk
[09:07] <ubotu> Pici: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:08] <Possum> piNNoy, patience... this is irc :P
[09:08] <piNNoy> possum: am
[09:08] <piNNoy> :P
[09:08] <piNNoy> waiting while playing with beryl on my laptop it owns
[09:08] <Possum> piNNoy, agreed :)
[09:08] <abedra> does anyone have any advice on exporting and importing users
[09:08] <piNNoy> once i learn most of the basics im just going to use windows for my games
[09:09] <abedra> i have a new server set up and i need to take the users over
[09:09] <Possum> piNNoy, if it's a well-supported game, you can run it in wine... starcraft runs flawlessly :P
[09:09] <Possum> I've heard WoW and Guild Wars are a bit slow though
[09:09] <kayef> wat is a good download manager for ubuntu with good GUI?
[09:09] <piNNoy> i play lock on - modern air combat and that game uses resources like CRAP.
[09:09] <centrinel>  kget
[09:10] <CaptB0rk> Hi, I did an apt-get upgrade and now my system no longer boots
[09:10] <megafauna> Hi, what do i do when i find a website that i need IE to use?
[09:10] <exerd> damnit i need some serious help with getting my ubuntu to work
[09:10] <CaptB0rk> it has some permission errors while running the rc. scripts
[09:11] <megafauna> exerd: speak the problem
[09:11] <exerd> the screen goes black when starting it. i installed it via textbased installation
[09:11] <CaptB0rk> can someone please help? :( it was working perfectly just a moment ago.
[09:11] <tatters> Linux has a V good free flight sim called flightgeardont think there is combat though,
[09:11] <fangorious> exerd: you using an ati graphics card?
[09:11] <exerd> fangorious: yes ati x700se and i tried this guide http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/
[09:12] <strabes> fangorious: yes she is and everything we've tried hasn't worked. installing fglrx, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, even the vesa driver doesn't work
[09:12] <fangorious> exerd: laptop?
[09:12] <beni> ! | beni | beni
[09:12] <centrinel> have you try easyubuntu ? most people said it's a useful app
[09:12] <beni> !ape | beni | beni
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <exerd> fangorious: no not a laptop
[09:13] <strabes> exerd: oh i thought you were on a laptop. you should just buy an nvidia card. then you'll never have to worry about graphics stuff
[09:13] <exerd> so damn frustrating
[09:13] <megafauna> Hi, what do i do when i find a website that i need IE to use?
[09:13] <strabes> megafauna: not use that website :)
[09:13] <greg_> my computer keeps freezing b/c of kcpid
[09:13] <greg_> kacpid
[09:13] <morrolan> Hi, how can I start a process over SSH and not have it terminate if I become disconnected?
[09:13] <fangorious> ok, not the probably no tthe problem I'm thinking of then. although the solution to the one I'm thinking of is to add "Option" "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,auto" to the [ati]  device section of xorg.conf
[09:13] <exerd> well i really want this to work with my current card
[09:13] <megafauna> strabes: that is harsh.....
[09:14] <strabes> megafauna: there's a firefox extension called IEtab. not sure if that would work. probably not.
[09:14] <megafauna> strabes: i kinda agree though.
[09:14] <greg_> morrolan: screen < command >
[09:14] <megafauna> strabes i'm cheking it out.
[09:14] <morrolan> greg_ so I just type screen first then?
[09:14] <greg_> yes
[09:14] <CaptB0rk> quit
[09:14] <morrolan> greg_ cheers, so simple!
[09:16] <roy> hey guys
[09:16] <roy> im new to ubuntu and iv'e been haveing some problems
[09:16] <roy> anyone can help?
[09:16] <strabes> roy: just ask
[09:16] <roy> k... here goes....
[09:17] <roy> i have an nvidia  fx 5500 card
[09:17] <robinsjostrom3> ok i got disconnected tell me what to add to xorg.conf again please
[09:17] <evo> hello
[09:17] <roy> and i use ubuntu 7.04
[09:17] <greg_> My computer keeps freezing because of kacpid and kacpi_notify. They use 99% of the processor when I look in `top`.  How can I remove kacpid or disable it or seomthing?
[09:17] <greg_> My computer keeps freezing because of kacpid and kacpi_notify. They use 99% of the processor when I look in `top`.  How can I remove kacpid or disable it or seomthing?
[09:18] <roy> i installed nvidia-glx and when i reboot the screen freez
[09:18] <megafauna> strabes no, it says on theri page that you need windows....
[09:18] <fangorious> robinsjostrom3: in the Device section for your card, I believe you add a line like this: "Option" "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,auto"
[09:18] <jbinder> Hi
[09:18] <jbinder> I can't install ubuntu.
[09:18] <jbinder> It keeps erroring while I'm installing
[09:18] <evo> i use UB7.04, i want progrma for p2p file sharing
[09:18] <greg_> My computer keeps freezing because of kacpid and kacpi_notify. They use 99% of the processor when I look in `top`.  How can I remove kacpid or disable it or something? **
[09:18] <greg_> jbinder: you suck
[09:19] <einPaule> jbinder, did you check the cd for errors?
[09:19] <roy> anyone?
[09:19] <infidel> !flock
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <afief> I got a series of pictures which I want to turn into a movie file, which program should i use for that?
[09:19] <einPaule> greg_, go away
[09:19] <jbinder> yes, it said that there were errors
[09:19] <fangorious> roy: did you just install that one package, or did you use System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager?
[09:19] <greg_> i'm friends with jbinder
[09:19] <greg_> lol
[09:19] <fangorious> afief: iMovie
[09:20] <roy> both
[09:20] <robinsjostrom3> fangorious: ok i can try that
[09:20] <roy> i tried it 4 times
[09:20] <einPaule> well, then reburn the image if it passes the md5 check
[09:20] <afief> fangorious, doesn't exist in the repositories
[09:20] <tatters> roy:you probsably have a problem with xorg I am also new but I beleive sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and runnig through the options pressing OK to accept defaults will help
[09:20] <roy> after the screen freez i usually go to safe mode and replacing the xorg.conf with abackup i got and then everything is cool
[09:21] <fangorious> roy: did you check what /var/log/Xorg.0.log says while in safe mode?
[09:21] <elpe> edit /etc/default/acpi-support   , POST_VIDEO=false
[09:22] <einPaule> well, then reburn the image if it passes the md5 check, jbinder
[09:22] <CientificoLoco> how do I make a secury tranfer of money?
[09:22] <fangorious> afief: I'm not sure what to use (iMovie is part of Apple iLife ...)
[09:22] <sashimi> hi everybody
[09:22] <evo> hello
[09:22] <afief> fangorious, so any advice on free software?
[09:22] <fangorious> sashimi: HI DR. SASHIMI
[09:22] <evo> help with new user
[09:22] <elpe> roy, POST_VIDEO=false in /etc/default/acpi-support
[09:22] <robinsjostrom3> fangorious: that didnt work
[09:22] <evo> please help
[09:22] <fangorious> robinsjostrom3: bummer
[09:23] <robinsjostrom3> damn i cant get it what the hell is not working
[09:23] <sashimi> I'm desperatly trying to get my dual screen working, with my old ati 2400+ and the free ati drivers
[09:23] <neverblue> who was helping me with Apache?
[09:23] <fangorious> evo: azureus (bittorrent)
[09:23] <shedman> I'm trying to get dual screen working too
[09:23] <evo> im really happy not using windows, i love ubuntu
[09:23] <sashimi> shedman, with ati rubbish too ?
[09:23] <fangorious> robinsjostrom3: ati sucks on linux, and i'm in the same boat with an hp laptop
[09:23] <shedman> I've just installed an Nvidia PCI-express card
[09:24] <fangorious> afief: sorry, maybe do a search for mjpeg in synaptic
[09:24] <roy> elpe: how do i do that?
[09:24] <sashimi> shedman, nvidia is supposed to be much more powerful in dualheading, you can use nview (I was told)
[09:24] <evo> yet i would like certain things like bit torrent
[09:24] <elpe> roy,  edit this file
[09:24] <elpe> sudo gedit /etc/default/acpi-support
[09:25] <skenmy> evo - just look around, there are plenty of programs that do what you need :)
[09:25] <skenmy> Azureus, for one.
[09:25] <Jubilee1991919> Does anyone know How I might change grub to boot into Vista automatically? Rather than Ubunut?
[09:25] <Jubilee1991919> Ubuntu*
[09:25] <skenmy> Jubilee1991919, /etc/grub/menu.lst
[09:25] <fangorious> anyone know how to stop NetworkManager from configuring an interface? I want my ethernet card to use DHCP but I have some extra DNS search domains I want used (the DHCP server just advertises the DHCP domain)
[09:25] <CientificoLoco> I wanna bougth a tickets by internet.... how do I make it with a good secure?
[09:25] <skenmy> change the "default" line
[09:25] <roy> elpe: and paste it where?
[09:25] <fangorious> I always thought Ubunut was cooler
[09:25] <skenmy> to the number of the entry that Vista is
[09:25] <evo> im really new, i want to know what files to download
[09:26] <IndyGunFreak> evo: what are you tryin to do?
[09:26] <neverblue> who was helping me with Apache?
[09:26] <neverblue> sorry, I wasnt logging
[09:26] <skenmy> evo - for Azureus you can do "sudo apt-get install azureus"
[09:26] <Jubilee1991919> Thanks, and I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless network. It's a 2WIRE router, but idk what kind of key I need
[09:26] <robinsjostrom3> ok this was my experience with ubuntu and i think im switching back to win unfortunatley
[09:26] <Jubilee1991919> Like, a WEP key or something
[09:26] <evo> get limewire for linux
[09:26] <IndyGunFreak> evo: use frostwire.
[09:26] <skenmy> neverblue - if you can restate your problem someone else can try :)
[09:26] <fangorious> evo: from the Applications menu, select "Add/Remove Applications" select Internet on the left
[09:27] <neverblue> skenmy, this person knew what they are doing :)
[09:27] <jovans> hi@all
[09:27] <evo> search "frostwire"
[09:27] <Jubilee1991919> I have the key, it's on the bottom of the router but there are a bunch of different kinds of keys, idk which one to use
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> evo: go to http://www.frostwire.com
[09:27] <skenmy> neverblue - so do many others.
[09:27] <neverblue> true
[09:27] <psycose> hi
[09:27] <neverblue> i hope :)
[09:27] <fangorious> evo: there amule, azureus, gift*, ...
[09:27] <database> I installed a minimal Ubuntu Dapper install in order to upgrade to Feisty.
[09:27] <database> Is there a metapackage I can install to do this?
[09:28] <psycose> i'm looking for help with bad sectors in my hard drive (laptop) here is my questions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19016/ thanks
[09:28] <neverblue> so I am trying to "redo" my apache install, I am not getting a nice new install each time, #1 sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart/start/stop doesnt work
[09:28] <database> (If not, what is the command to do a "dist-upgrade" (or similar) in a console?)
[09:28] <rambo3> database, wjy do you mean?
[09:28] <sashimi> database, I'd say it is much weiser starting again from scratch rather than "upgrading"
[09:28] <skenmy> neverblue, sudo apt-get uninstall apache2?
[09:28] <m1ce> whenever i am connected to a network (LAN or wifi) my CPU usage is at a constant 100%.  when disconnected it is at a normal idle level.  does anyone know what this could be?
[09:28] <fangorious> sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2
[09:28] <skenmy> that would be better
[09:28] <neverblue> #2 in the apache2.conf, it makes reference to /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, which is no longer one my system
[09:28] <skenmy> thank you fangorious
[09:29] <neverblue> skenmy, i was using synaptic actually
[09:29] <sashimi> m1ce, module problem i suppose
[09:29] <thelostpatrol> hey, i have no shut down or restart buttons... please help me get them back
[09:29] <rambo3> !info ubuntu-standard  | database
[09:29] <ubotu> database: ubuntu-standard: The Ubuntu standard system. In component main, is standard. Version 1.43 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:29] <skenmy> same meat different gravy ;)
[09:29] <fangorious> m1ce: ceiling cat is in your b0x0r, steaing your cpu cyklez
[09:29] <neverblue> skenmy, i was doing a complete removal of apache and apache-common
[09:29] <neverblue> then reinstalling apache...
[09:29] <skenmy> Synaptic is a frontend for apt
[09:29] <m1ce> sashimi, do you know how i would look into that?
[09:29] <skenmy> right
[09:29] <skenmy> yup
[09:29] <neverblue> (apache2) in this case
[09:29] <evo> wow maid for linux/ubuntu
[09:30] <neverblue> skenmy, were those replies for me?
[09:30] <skenmy> yup :)
[09:30] <sashimi> m1ce, hmm not at all I'm afraid :/
[09:30] <neverblue> im a bit past the understanding that synaptic is a frontend for apt :)
[09:30] <m1ce> okay, thanks
[09:31] <skenmy> Not intended as a jab at your intelligence.
[09:31] <thelostpatrol> hey, i have no shut down or restart buttons... please help me get them back
[09:31] <neverblue> currently I am needed to use apache2ctl to start/restart the apache server
[09:31] <skenmy> right
[09:31] <database> Cheers guys, I found it.
[09:31] <skenmy> have you actually tried uninstalling and reinstalling apache2 yet or does it not work?
[09:31] <database> And I AM starting from scratch :p
[09:32] <fangorious> anyone good with ldap?
[09:32] <database> t have the time/patience to burn another disc.
[09:32] <henk> @thelostpatrol  right klick your gnome panel left klick add tot he panel to add the bittons
[09:32] <neverblue> so skenmy anymore suggestions?
[09:32] <seamus7> Hi.. I can't access some admin apps under System/Administration .. like Services, Networking, and UsersandGroups .... when I try to open one in a terminal I get an Authentication Rejected error message ????
[09:32] <database> Woah. Irssi a splode.
[09:32] <skenmy> neverblue, my last message
[09:32] <fangorious> seamus7: is your account in the adm group?
[09:32] <thelostpatrol> henk, it's not that. they don't appear in the shutdown menu at all
[09:33] <thelostpatrol> henk, i have hibernate and stuff like that but no shut down or restart
[09:33] <abelard> I can't get my mic to work with audacity
[09:33] <macd> Has anyone experienced problems with ipw2200 wireless, not being able to obtion an address via dhcp, and it is associated with the AP.
[09:33] <seamus7> fangorious: I assume yes since it's the only account I set up when installing Feisty
[09:33] <psycose> i'm looking for help with bad sectors in my hard drive (laptop) here is my questions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19016/ thanks
[09:33] <neverblue> skenmy, well, since i already tried that, ill ask again, anymore ideas?
[09:33] <fangorious> seamus7: run an 'id -a' just to be sure
[09:33] <skenmy> well it's useless you saying that
[09:33] <skenmy> We need more information on what is going wrong
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol log out off gnome press ctrl + alt + F1 to switch to console
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol cd /etc/init.d
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol ./stop gdm
[09:34] <neverblue> skenmy, well, this remove/reinstall doesnt seem to be happening
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol apt-get remove gnome-panel
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol apt-get install gnome-panel
[09:34] <neverblue> skenmy, im sure the remove might be fine... but i am thinking its the reinstall
[09:35] <thelostpatrol> is that all of it?
[09:35] <thelostpatrol> i'll try it now
[09:35] <neverblue> maybe just do it cli, just to troubleshoot
[09:35] <seamus7> fangorious: it says ...... groups=4(adm) .........
[09:35] <henk> @thelostpatrol yep
[09:35] <thelostpatrol> k
[09:35] <henk> @thelostpatrol *gg* ;)
[09:35] <fangorious> seamus7: k, always good to be sure
[09:35] <skenmy> cli is always good.
[09:35] <lezi_guy> hello everyone
[09:35] <neverblue> skenmy, so a "complete removal" in cli is aptitude purge?
[09:35] <BoneE> is there a way to run ubuntu on USB drive
[09:36] <skenmy> apt-get uninstall
[09:36] <skenmy> as far as I am aware, neverblue
[09:36] <neverblue> skenmy, no,  im not using apt-get uninstall
[09:36] <seamus7> fangorious: I've also noticed that when I try to open nautilus as root nothing happens
[09:36] <dyrne> BoneE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:36] <lezi_guy> ubuntu installation
[09:36] <skenmy> ...and why not?
[09:36] <neverblue> so sudo aptitude purge apache2 apache-common ?
[09:36] <lezi_guy> dual boot
[09:37] <skenmy> ahha
[09:37] <skenmy> because uninstall doesn't exist - what am I thinking
[09:37] <henk> @lezi_guy first install windows then install ubuntu
[09:37] <seamus7> fangorious: it all was working perfectly just a couple hours ago ...
[09:37] <skenmy> neverblue, ignore my moments of madness. Yes, try that command.
[09:37] <sebastianffx> hi, somebody have install Gabedit?
[09:37] <lezi_guy> thanks henk for paying attention
[09:38] <sebastianffx> becouse i have a trouble
[09:38] <henk> @lezi_guy np ;)
[09:38] <lezi_guy> actually I did a huge mess with my pc in last 2 days
[09:38] <lezi_guy> I did install ubuntu 2 times already
[09:38] <sebastianffx> hi, somebody have install Gabedit??????
[09:38] <henk> @lezi_guy *omg*
[09:38] <lezi_guy> wanted to have local web server on it and couldnt manage to install it
[09:39] <fangorious> sebastianffx: I don't think anyone heard you, try all caps ;p
[09:39] <henk> @lezi_guy as root run apt-get install apache2
[09:39] <skenmy> fangorious, don't encourage them :P
[09:39] <lezi_guy> I dont know much cmd prompt language
[09:39] <fangorious> seamus7: did you enable a root account password or something?
[09:39] <seamus7> What is gksu as opposed to gksudo and sudo?
[09:39] <lezi_guy> familiar with graphics only
[09:39] <neverblue> skenmy, you good with apache/php installs?
[09:39] <lezi_guy> gui lol
[09:39] <skenmy> I can try my best
[09:40] <henk> @lezi_guy sry, but then i think a webserver eg. apache2 is not good for you to start with
[09:40] <skenmy> being a server admin I'm smarter than the average bear
[09:40] <mjr> seamus7, that's for changing a user with that user's own password, as opposed to gksudo changing to root with the changing user's password
[09:40] <Pelo> lezi_guy,  you'll find this usefull then   http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[09:40] <lezi_guy> ok I will keep apache on windows
[09:40] <gr2> excuse me, Im using xchat, but on the left I cant see which users are logged on. how can I view the users list??
[09:40] <neverblue> skenmy, if my browser is not "viewing" php files, but allowing me to dl them, does that mean apache doesnt have php enabled?
[09:40] <henk> @lezi_guy or you can use the gadmin tools
[09:40] <lezi_guy> but now I need to install ubuntu on f drive
[09:40] <lezi_guy> f: thats the large volumed one
[09:40] <skenmy> very possibly, neverblue
[09:40] <seamus7> fangorious: not to my knowledge ... i had just been in the Gnome Control Panel looking through the various apps and I had just enabled a service under System/Admin/Services ...
[09:40] <henk> @lezi_guy check google for gadmin tools
[09:41] <neverblue> so its not reading the extensions .php and processing them properly?
[09:41] <skenmy> or PHP is not loaded
[09:41] <lezi_guy> ok henk
[09:41] <skenmy> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5
[09:41] <Pelo> gr2,  in the view menu  , member list , or try to resize the members list on the right , it might be hiden, must mouse over
[09:41] <lezi_guy> I will google it
[09:41] <skenmy> that should do it for you iirc
[09:41] <bXi> does anyone know why my mouse pointer moves in steps of like 3/4 pixels at a time
[09:41] <henk> @lezi_guy ok good luck
[09:41] <neverblue> so what is needed to change in the apache2.conf to setup php?
[09:41] <lezi_guy> thank you so much henk
[09:41] <seamus7> mjr: well my admin apps that use gksu in their launcher aren't responding for some reason ... I notice an "authetication rejected" error message if I try to open them in a terminal ???
[09:41] <henk> @lezi_guy np dude ;)
[09:42] <skenmy> neverblue, im not that proficient :)
[09:42] <skenmy> try a google
[09:42] <skenmy> it's a common issue I have no doubt
[09:42] <Pelo> bXi,  it's very hard to tell why  but are all your app slow ?
[09:42] <gr2> Pelo: in view I have USERlist buttons, and its checked., but i still cant see anything :-( what could be wrong
[09:42] <bXi> no Pelo
[09:42] <bXi> everythings fast
[09:42] <mjr> seamus7, ubuntu has no root password by default so you can't su to it as such, without setting a root pw
[09:43] <gr2> Pelo: ok found it
[09:43] <seamus7> mjr: ok yeah i never set a root password
[09:43] <bXi> probably some dpi mismatch or something
[09:43] <Pelo> gr2, resized ?
[09:43] <clever> seamus7: try setting the progs to use gksudo
[09:43] <neverblue> how do I get apache2 and php5 to work together (anyone)
[09:43] <gr2> yeah. for some reason it had disappeared on the right of the screen. by changing to tree layout it popped out!
[09:43] <macd> is there anyway to change what broadcast is on my wireless card, so dhcp requests go somewhere else
[09:44] <gr2> Pelo; you have any idea if wireless is bugged on ubuntu?
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue apt-get install apache2 php5
[09:44] <Braddf0rd> Hello ever1, I need help with wireless connectivity in Ubuntu...
[09:44] <skenmy> I already told you this, neverblue.
[09:44] <Yahooadam> i have 2 HDD's in my PC, how can i enable/format the second one in ubuntu, is there a HDD management tool ?
[09:44] <neverblue> henk, i didnt say install
[09:44] <gr2> Perlo; because on the connection i am now, network works fine, but wireless wont connect
[09:44] <gr2> Pero; because on the connection i am now, network works fine, but wireless wont connect
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue *lol*
[09:44] <neverblue> henk, :/
[09:44] <gr2> Pelo; because on the connection i am now, network works fine, but wireless wont connect
[09:44] <fear> Hello
[09:44] <Pelo> gr2,   I wouldn'T say bugged I would say requiring some effort to get working , but I know nothing about wifi
[09:44] <skenmy> I thought you said you were past a certain level of knowledge, neverblue
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue how do you mean to work ??
[09:44] <Braddf0rd> Is anyone here good with networking?
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue some more info please ;)
[09:45] <Pelo> !wifi > gr2  chek your pm window for instructions
[09:45] <seamus7> clever: I'm stumped .. neither gksu nor gksudo works ... the app asks for my password but then freezes ... all is see is a blank white window pop up but no data within it ... very strange
[09:45] <gr2> pelo: ok :-) I will bother someone else now than. thanks a bunch though
[09:45] <fear> Can someone help me?
[09:45] <Shrimpy_> gr2: what  wireless card do you have?   (lspic    on the terminal)
[09:45] <Pelo> Braddf0rd,  your more likely to get help if you ask a specific question
[09:45] <Pelo> fear,  we can'T we donT, knwo your problem
[09:45] <clever> seamus7: if you use sudo -i in a term youll get a root shell
[09:45] <fear> sorry:P
[09:45] <clever> seamus7: wihtout having to set a root password
[09:45] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ooops i mean " lspci "  lol
[09:46] <seamus7> clever: will that help me with something?
[09:46] <gr2> shrimpy: woah that gave me a huge output
[09:46] <clemare> Question: I wnet to download the last version of ubuntu but I can't find the PowerPC version.... What happend!?
[09:46] <fear> 6. Next you need to get your hands on the windows file 'msgsm32.acm' from an existing windows partition (C:/WINDOWS/system32/msgsm32.acm) and copy it to '~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system/'. but i cant see /.wine (how can i see it)
[09:46] <clever> seamus7: you could run the whole prog from root if its just this one time
[09:46] <neverblue> henk, I cannot see phpinfo();
[09:46] <Braddf0rd> Pelo, I'm trying to connect to my wireless router, WEP64 Hex with password and set to open, and it will not connect. I don't know which part ir failing, but my Mac and Vista on this machine both connect, but Ubuntu Will not
[09:47] <Shrimpy_> gr2: yeah it should be near the bottom. you should see ethernet controller   and then network controller
[09:47] <neverblue> skenmy, what are you implying?
[09:47] <clever> seamus7: you may need to update DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY though for X progs to work from within sudo -i
[09:47] <gr2> shrimpy: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[09:47] <henk> @neverblue are you sure you installed php on your box correctly ??
[09:47] <seamus7> clever: how do i do that?
[09:47] <Shrimpy_> gr2: is this a laptop or desktop
[09:47] <Pelo> !wifi > Braddf0rd  check your pm window  that's all I can do for you
[09:47] <gr2> shrimpy: toshiba laptop
[09:47] <fear> Can i copu the file to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system/
[09:47] <henk> @neverblue install webmin it makes life much easyer
[09:47] <fear> copy
[09:47] <clever> seamus7: do echo $DISPLAY $XAUTHORITY in a normal term
[09:47] <Braddf0rd> ? !wifi?
[09:48] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok give me a second i have to do something real fast
[09:48] <Pelo> fear,  yes,  just unhide the folders  crtl +h
[09:48] <clever> seamus7: then export DISPLAY=... and export XAUTHORIZTY=.... in the sudo -i  term
[09:48] <gr2> shrimpy: I will be right here! thanks
[09:48] <Pelo> Braddf0rd, check your pm windows
[09:48] <henk> @neverblue what does http://localhost tell you -->>> is APACHE running ?
[09:48] <fear> thanks:D
[09:48] <Braddf0rd> Pelo, what's a PM window (Ima nub)
[09:48] <thelostpatrol> henk, didn't work
[09:48] <thelostpatrol> henk, couldn't do ./stop gdm
[09:49] <fear> Bye and thanks
[09:49] <thelostpatrol> henk, said there was no such thing
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol ./gdm stop
[09:49] <skenmy> hmm, how does one restart the sound daemon?
[09:49] <thelostpatrol> k
[09:49] <Pelo> Braddf0rd,   in your IRC client ( the app you are using now to talk to me ) and extra window sjust appeared,  could be a tab at the bottom  or an extra one in the tree list on the left , it 'S from ubotu,  check it for instrucons
[09:49] <nosbig> Can anyone on help me solve a problem with ubuntu?
[09:49] <Braddf0rd> Pelo, also, how would I hide other partitions from showing?
[09:49] <Draconicus> Is it possible to get spyware in Ubuntu Linux?
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol this stops your gnome and you can uninstall your gnome-panel
[09:49] <seamus7> clever: i'm sorry but what will this allow me to do in the end that will address my problem opening admin apps?? sorry i don't get it
[09:49] <evo> i need help with azurez
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol then reinstall it
[09:49] <neverblue> henk, apache is running
[09:49] <Draconicus> Or adware, rather?
[09:49] <__mikem> Does anyone know any good IDE's for ubuntu that are not writen in java besides Anjuta and KDevelop
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol then reinstall it with apt-get install gnome-panel
[09:49] <clever> seamus7: yuou can start the prog within the root shell
[09:50] <neverblue> henk, its apache that isnt installed corectly
[09:50] <clever> seamus7: and it will be in root from the start and wont need gksu
[09:50] <evo> azureus
[09:50] <nosbig> For some reason, when I get on the UBUNTU loading screen, shit all happens.. How can I fix it?
[09:50] <neverblue> the synaptic install of apache isnt so hot
[09:50] <Pelo> Braddf0rd,  hidding partitons ?  the best you can do is mount them somewhere hidden,  you can'T actualy hide a partition
[09:50] <henk> @neverblue is it running or not ?
[09:50] <thelostpatrol> henk, thank you, i have your instructions written down from before
[09:50] <thelostpatrol> brb
[09:50] <evo> azureus help plesse
[09:50] <seamus7> clever: but when i try to use gksu it won't work so why would the root shell be any different?
[09:50] <AlberTUX> does anybody knows where are the wireless configuration saved? (networkmanager)
[09:50] <henk> @thelostpatrol ok good luck dude
[09:51] <clever> seamus7: if your allready root it wont need a password
[09:51] <Braddf0rd> Hmm, owell. Thanks pelo
[09:51] <Pelo> AlbertoP,   a hidden folder in /home  mahybe
[09:51] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok i'm back
[09:51] <henk> @neverblue GOING FOR A COFFEE BACK IN A MINUTE
[09:51] <evo> how do i download torrent?
[09:51] <joselj> how can i change the network manager ring password in feisty?
[09:51] <Shrimpy_> gr2: on network manager can you see wireless connections?
[09:51] <AlbertoP> Pelo, wrong nick I think :-)
[09:51] <gr2> shrimpy: if im not roaming mode, yes
[09:51] <|chiz|> does anyone know a good internet radio player or site?
[09:51] <evo> i used to windows term
[09:51] <gr2> shrimpy: it gives me the networks, with a percentage of the vicinity
[09:51] <AlberTUX>  does anybody knows where are the wireless configuration saved? (networkmanager)
[09:51] <evo> what is a torrent
[09:51] <neverblue> henk, roger that
[09:52] <evo> ahhhhhhhhh
[09:52] <Pelo> evo,  you need a bittorrent client,  there is one installed in utorrent ( bittorrent) but there is no gui,   check the menu > applications > add /remove and search for bitorrent
[09:52] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok so when you try and connect the two ball orbs never turn green (never connects)
[09:52] <DVS01> is there a package that implements an interface to /etc/init.d scripts via a 'service' command a la redhat?
[09:52] <seamus7> clever: i think we are trying to address different issues ... i want to bring my system back to its working state in which I could click on an admin app in System/Admin and use it normally ... that's all
[09:52] <dountby> hi
[09:52] <|chiz|> AlberTux its in the gnome conf manager
[09:52] <ploom> hi, Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  mail/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[09:52] <ward_> how do i know what command a program is after i install it, please?
[09:52] <clever> seamus7: ahhh :S
[09:53] <evo> i just wanna have things like when i used windows... but i really wanna work around never using windows again
[09:53] <seamus7> clever: i wasn't very clear sorry
[09:53] <henk> @neverblue OK IM BACK
[09:53] <joselj> when i go to network properties i can't finf a password option
[09:53] <henk> @neverblue ;)
[09:53] <dountby> has anyone an idea how to set the iconsize for the gnome-desktop?
[09:53] <Pelo> AlberTUX,   a hidden folder in /home  mahybe
[09:53] <ploom> what is wron with update-manager (trying to upgrade from edgy to feisty)?
[09:53] <neverblue> henk, stop yelling at me :P
[09:53] <henk> @neverblue ;)
[09:53] <dountby> my icons are suddenly extreamly minimized
[09:53] <neverblue> hehe
[09:53] <gr2> shrimpy: by orbs, you mean the network signals on top?
[09:53] <karimfayez> hey every body... Egypt LOCO team is announcing their official start today...join us at #ubuntu-eg
[09:54] <neverblue> so henk the ubuntu install of apache/php has issues
[09:54] <Pelo> evo,  do you have ubuntu installed right now ?
[09:54] <neverblue> and i am trying to work around them
[09:54] <gr2> shrimpy: this network has a password, once I update the info, nothing happens
[09:54] <neverblue> henk, atm, my apache works fine
[09:54] <henk> @neverblue ok
[09:54] <_filippo_> !latex
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <neverblue> well, not 100%, but well enough
[09:54] <_filippo_> !tex
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <henk> @neverblue reinstall php5 ?
[09:54] <neverblue> now I am trying to enable .php support
[09:54] <AlberTUX> chiz: im on kubuntu
[09:54] <Shrimpy_> gr2: i want you to right click on your panel and click on add to panel..then scroll down to "system and Hardware" and add "network monitor"
[09:54] <nosbig> If anyone can help me with UBUNTU please send me a private message !!!
[09:54] <gr2> shrimpy: yep, added that as well already
[09:54] <ward_> how do i know what command a program is after i install it, please?
[09:55] <henk> @neverblue edit your apache2.conf to enable it
[09:55] <AlberTUX> seems that my network manager is automatically connecting to an AP
[09:55] <Pelo> _filippo_,  looking for a latex app ?   use menu > applicaison> add remove and search for latex
[09:55] <gr2> shrimpy: the output I get now is the two screens, with a triangle on bottom
[09:55] <gr2> shrimpy: (orange triangle)
[09:55] <AlberTUX> i can't seem to see from where
[09:55] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok click on proprties
[09:55] <neverblue> henk, so i added a few lines into apache2.conf:
[09:55] <|chiz|> AlberTUX I thought that was in a right click menu somewhere
[09:56] <Pelo> ward_,  usualy it's the name of the program ,  and if it has a gui a menu entry is usualy made
[09:56] <henk> @neverblue whooooooo COOL ;)
[09:56] <alexpe> Hello, how do you list all the files included in a package with apt commands?
[09:56] <Shrimpy_> gr2: or just click on the network manager
[09:56] <gr2> shrimpy: roger, the window name is Properties: eth1:avahi
[09:56] <neverblue> LoadModule php5_module        /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[09:56] <neverblue> AddHandler php5-script php
[09:56] <clever> alenax: apt-file show packagename
[09:56] <_filippo_> Pelo: i'm looking for information on the tetex obsolescence
[09:56] <gr2> snrimpy: ok there
[09:56] <thelostpatrol> henk, it didn't fix the problem
[09:56] <gr2> shrimpy: ok there
[09:56] <henk> @neverblue yeaaaaaaaaaa
[09:56] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok then try puttin in only    eth1
[09:56] <thelostpatrol> henk, but now i have two applet errors
[09:56] <Pelo> _filippo_,  google
[09:56] <ward_> Pelo, thanx i'll duoublecheck for the menu but i didnt find it
[09:56] <_filippo_> Pelo: i've heard that it's unmantained and i have to install texlive
[09:56] <henk> @neverblue error messages ?
[09:56] <neverblue> i had to hardcode in the location of the libphp5.so, as its not located in /modules
[09:56] <AlberTUX> |chiz|, right. not there. maybe some config file somewhere?
[09:56] <neverblue> as its not a dir, but a files
[09:56] <clever> alenax: youll need apt-file installed and updated too(apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update)
[09:56] <neverblue> file*
[09:56] <Pelo> ward_,  type the name of the prog in a terminal window
[09:57] <gr2> shrimpy: done. somehow a signal strength appeared. signals 0%
[09:57] <_filippo_> Pelo: i was just looking if it was a faq known by bots
[09:57] <neverblue> let me consult the logs
[09:57] <neverblue> sec
[09:57] <thelostpatrol> henk, OAFFID:GNOME_MixerApplet and OAFFID:Gnome_TrashApplet
[09:57] <henk> @neverblue np ;)
[09:57] <|chiz|> AlberTUX, no clue, good luck
[09:57] <karimfayez> Egypt LOCO team is announcing their official start today...join us at #ubuntu-eg
[09:57] <Shrimpy_> ok, now try to connect to that connection via the network manger
[09:57] <ward_> Pelo, its the compiz-manager, but i would like to know how to find out on my own too
[09:57] <henk> @thelostpatrol did you reinstall the gnome panel ?
[09:57] <thelostpatrol> henk, yes
[09:57] <dountby> alexpe: did you try dpkg-query -L ?
[09:57] <ward_> Pelo, i mean how to find out what the command is, because sometimes its not the name
[09:57] <riaal> its oftopic but anyone here know if it is possible to make 2 clacc c networks to one whit supernetting and then split it whit vlsm? sorry for offtopic
[09:57] <Pelo> ward_,   menu > system > prefs > 3d desktop
[09:58] <henk> @thelostpatrol when you start gnome you get this messages
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> henk, everything else works as usual
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> yes
[09:58] <graveson1> how can i write to a ntfs filesystem. i plugged in a usbdisk and i cannot write to it ?
[09:58] <henk> @thelostpatrol you have the shut down button
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> it asks if i want to delete the applets from my config
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> no
[09:58] <Doctordoog> I've been trying to install java 1.5, I've read all the threads on the boards and followed all the instructions but I think that it isn't working since sun.com has j2re-6.1 as opposed to j2re1.5, how should I remedy this?
[09:58] <gr2> shrimpy: what else should I do?
[09:58] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g > graveson1  check yoru pm windows for instructions
[09:58] <ward_> Pelo, 3ddesktop = not there
[09:59] <Pelo> ward_,  did you install the compiz manager ?
[09:59] <henk> @thelostpatrol ?
[09:59] <thelostpatrol> henk, i don't have a shut down button
[09:59] <thelostpatrol> henk, or restart
[09:59] <AlberTUX> |chiz|: thanks anyway
[09:59] <alexpe> dountby, thanks it works
[09:59] <thelostpatrol> henk, and now i have the two errors
[09:59] <Shrimpy_> gr2: i take it that did not connect. ok (just making sure it was somthing silly) you can try ndiswrapper.  (i'm going to searc to see if they have a package for you wireless card though)
[09:59] <BetaCookies> Hey, beryl is running, but it doesn't actually seem to be "running"
[09:59] <Pelo> ward_,  it  isnT' installed by default , you have to do it ,  search for compiz in synaptic
[10:00] <Pelo> BetaCookies, #beryl
[10:00] <alexpe> dountby, how do i list all the packages installed on my system?
[10:00] <henk> @thelostpatrol it should be under system at the gnome-panel
[10:00] <neverblue> henk:
[10:00] <neverblue> [Thu May 03 12:51:26 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations
[10:00] <tarzeau> alexpe: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[10:00] <neverblue> 127.0.0.1 - - [03/May/2007:12:59:01 -0700]  "GET /testphp.html HTTP/1.1" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.3 (Ubuntu-feisty)"
[10:00] <sNixx> hi again
[10:00] <henk> @neverblue ?
[10:00] <comrade`phil> wow, desktop effects must be REALLY experimental
[10:00] <neverblue> so the .html files are fine
[10:00] <gr2> shrimpy: no it didnt connect. now i will try ndiswrapper. what does that do?
[10:00] <ward_> Pelo, i'm looking for it
[10:00] <neverblue> but still not doing so hot with .php
[10:00] <sNixx> just a lil question, apparently i have restricted drivers running atm (nvidia)
[10:00] <gr2> shrimpy: should I install ndiswrapper
[10:01] <sNixx> i cannot remember who but someone was mentioning about drivers to me earlier
[10:01] <Shrimpy_> g2r: ndiswrapper is like liunx version of the device driver.
[10:01] <myr> im so glad my wireless worked out of the box
[10:01] <Pelo> comrade`phil, install the compiz manager you'll have a little more management options, or check in gconf-editor
[10:01] <alexpe> tarzeau, thanks
[10:01] <ward_> Pelo, you're right, i found it; i assumed it was installed be default
[10:01] <ward_> Pelo, thanx for your help
[10:01] <thelostpatrol> henk, now after what i just did i can't put the trash can on my bottom panel
[10:01] <psycose> i'm looking for help with bad sectors in my hard drive (laptop) here is my questions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19016/ thanks
[10:01] <dountby> tarzeau: thanks - dodnt know that myself :-)
[10:01] <Pelo> ward_,  np
[10:01] <ninix> Hi
[10:01] <dountby> didnt
[10:02] <henk> @thelostpatrol please reinstall ou nme stopwihat-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <ninix> anyone here use VirtualBox ? I use it with a OS Guest Windows..... and i want that windows can access to my local network. (i use NAT atm)
[10:02] <thelostpatrol> ?
[10:02] <Myrtti> psycose: if the disc is going bad, it's going bad.
[10:02] <Doctordoog> exit
[10:02] <Shrimpy_> g2r: ndiswrapper works pretty well with intel wireless cards.  either you can post something on the forums (including your wirless card name) and ask or i can give you the link of how to install ndiswrapper.
[10:02] <Pelo> henk,  by  typing the nicks like that they won't highlight if the person is using xchat
[10:03] <henk> @thelostpatrol please reinstall the ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <psycose> Myrtti, well i would like a tools that identify bad sectors so that the FS do not use them any more
[10:03] <thelostpatrol> what's the command?
[10:03] <thelostpatrol> henk, what's the command?
[10:03] <henk> @thelostpatrol use apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <Myrtti> psycose: good luck, do you know how to get FS not to use them?
[10:04] <thelostpatrol> henk, invalid operation reinstall < --- message from terminal
[10:04] <Pelo> thelostpatrol, use synaptic
[10:04] <kane77> thelostpatrol, use aptitude instead of apt-get
[10:04] <alexpe> Hello, do you know another tool like calamaris to analyse proxy log files?
[10:05] <tarzeau> alexpe: webalizer ?
[10:05] <gr2> shrimpy:i installed ndiswrapper
[10:05] <henk> @thelostpatrol use apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <alexpe> tarzeau, let me check...
[10:05] <henk> @thelostpatrol use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <psycose> Myrtti, well the tools just update a list of sectors to bann, them the FS read this list ... it's simple
[10:05] <Myrtti> psycose: name one for me?
[10:06] <Shrimpy_> g2r: ok now restart X
[10:06] <Shrimpy_> g2r : you can do this by pressing  ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:07] <qos> hey guys ... when i create a server-link in gnome (eg. to an ftp-server) the links are shown on the desktop and in the start-menu. is it possible to remove the links from the desktop but not from the start-menu?
[10:07] <sNixx> erm are these desktop effects different than beryl?
[10:07] <buk> whats the mostly used media player? :)
[10:07] <sNixx> appart from afaik i can use themes with beryl
[10:07] <psycose> Myrtti, well if i knew one , i'm afraid i 'll use it whitout coming on the irc ... i thought fsck.ext3 could do this work for me ...
[10:07] <Pelo> sNixx,  ask in #ubuntu-effects  they are better at this stuff
[10:07] <Myrtti> I doubt it to be honest
[10:07] <sNixx> ah ok thanks didnt know about that
[10:07] <roflcopter> so i upgraded to feisty...and beryl doesn't work anymore!
[10:08] <Pelo> buk,  totem is pre instlaled for video , rhythmbox for audio
[10:08] <thelostpatrol> kane77, i am installing ubuntu-desktop via synaptic now
[10:08] <qos> hey guys ... when i create a server-link in gnome (eg. to an ftp-server) the links are shown on the desktop and in the start-menu. is it possible to remove the links from the desktop but not from the start-menu?
[10:08] <steve__> nick keekles
[10:08] <steve__> wow
[10:08] <keekles> rofl
[10:08] <keekles> so
[10:09] <thelostpatrol> brb restart
[10:09] <keekles> anybody have problems with beryl and feisty?
[10:09] <deCon> yes
[10:09] <keekles> i just upgraded
[10:09] <keekles> and now beryl doesnt start
[10:09] <deCon> my video won't play...or it crashes the video
[10:09] <Myrtti> ok, I'm off to bed. It's officially late.
[10:09] <Pelo> qos,  try in  gconf-editor  under /apps/nautilus/desktop
[10:09] <deCon> you have to start it manually, then it will keep settings again
[10:09] <Hutch323> Does any one know how to upgrade 6.06 to 7.04? Do I just need the kernel and headers?
[10:09] <art_> what i makening wrong?? http://wklej.org/id/fd305ff381
[10:09] <gr2> shrimpy: i tried running the list command -l on ndiswrapper, but got no output
[10:09] <mazza558> decon, what format is this video?
[10:09] <buk> Pelo: I clicked an mp3 and totem opened ;^)
[10:09] <Pelo> keekles,  try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[10:10] <psycose> Myrtti, just to let you know there are lots of proprietary tools that do this job
[10:10] <keekles> thanks
[10:10] <gr2> shrimpy: maybe I have no driver installed for it? but its weird, because i can read wireless signals
[10:10] <Pelo> !mp3 > buk  check pm window
[10:10] <deCon> mazza558, almost anything...youtube, or wmv...they all get messed up :(
[10:10] <qos> Pelo, thanks i will give it a try
[10:10] <mazza558> well, youtube videos are flash
[10:10] <mazza558> so i don't think that's the problem
[10:11] <alexpe> tarzeau, webaliwer is nice but i would like to graph my netcache log files per 5 minutes with distinction on http return codes...
[10:11] <deCon> mazza558, well flash works fine...except youtube, youtube is still funky
[10:11] <mazza558> have you got the restricted formats installed?
[10:11] <eck> Hutch323: you just need to update your sources.list and then do an update followed by dist-upgrade
[10:11] <deCon> mazza558, for some reason, youtube will download and start to play sometimes, othertimes not so well
[10:11] <Shrimpy_> g2r: yeahs thats odd. mmm well with ndiswrapper you have to load you wireless card also. look at their wiki for more info
[10:11] <deCon> mazza558, i'm in feisty, and i thought i had done that in edgy....but is there a way to check?
[10:12] <qos> Pelo, thanks that worked ... nice
[10:12] <mazza558> decon, let me find the link :)
[10:12] <deCon> ty
[10:12] <Th3Kymera> hi
[10:12] <javb> hi, i`m trying to use the PCMCIA card Sierra CDMA 3G SIERRA PC3200 ... cant find any info related to it.. any ideas around here?
[10:12] <alexpe> tarzeau, the perfect thing would be a script working with gnuplot but i can't find such thing and i am thinking about writing a small program to do thai
[10:12] <mazza558> decon, here we go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:13] <Hutch323> Thanks ECK I'll give it a try!
[10:13] <tarzeau> alexpe: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/gnuplot/ ?
[10:13] <DPi1> how do you do an apt-get for the url of a .bin file? (i'm new to linux)
[10:13] <Th3Kymera> some one have an HP dv2000??
[10:13] <DPi1> what's the command?
[10:13] <mazza558> decon, copy and paste that code into terminal and it'll install any codecs you don't have
[10:13] <wonderl00t> would anyone in here happen to know what command i can use to make crossover run an msi installer versus the regular exe
[10:13] <richee> Hi folks !
[10:14] <richee> Is there any way to recover deleted files in linux?
[10:14] <eck> DPi1: apt-get is for installing new packages from the repositories -- waht areyou tryin to do?
[10:14] <Shrimpy_> gr2: oh did you   type this in the terminal   "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[10:14] <chili555> DPi1 you are trying to retrieve the .bin from its url, or install or what??
[10:14] <eck> richee: what filesystem?
[10:14] <deCon> mazza558, i have the feeling it is a beryl problem, because there is a beryl bug that has some issues with playing videos...it makes them go blackish, wherever a window has covered them
[10:14] <DPi1> well i went to install electric sheep
[10:14] <richee> eck, ext3
[10:14] <eck> richee: no
[10:14] <DPi1> and it linked to the .deb but it said to use apt-get
[10:14] <richee> eck, what about other filesystems?
[10:14] <gr2> shrimpy: ok, i installed it, but i dont'know how install the right drive..
[10:15] <alexpe> tarzeau, thanks i am going to ask #gnuplot people
[10:15] <eck> richee: you can do it with ext2
[10:15] <clemare> What happend with PowerPC version? somebody?
[10:15] <buk> !help
[10:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:15] <richee> eck, what is the command on ext2?
[10:15] <eck> richee: jfs too, i think
[10:15] <pukeko> can i run ubuntu on a sparcstation 5 ?
[10:15] <richee> eck, k
[10:15] <tarzeau> pukeko: you can run debian on it! or openstep!
[10:15] <Zelda> hello
[10:15] <tarzeau> pukeko: or netbsd
[10:15] <gr2> shrimpy: modprobe didnt give me any output
[10:15] <chili555> DPi1 now i'm confused, a .deb or a .bin?
[10:15] <Zelda> How do I add a theme to ubuntu
[10:15] <Zelda> ?
[10:16] <eck> richee: just search for 'ext2 recover' or something like that on google, but it will not work on an ext3 FS
[10:16] <Shrimpy_> g2r: as in nothing happend. or is said error no output
[10:16] <gr2> shrimpy: nothing happened
[10:16] <petr4> hello. I just updated synaptic (via security updates) for ubuntu 6.10 and it disabled my wallpaper. Should I report it somewhere? (launchpad?)
[10:16] <gr2> shrimpy: sorry should have specified
[10:16] <eck> !ppc > clemare
[10:16] <Zelda> !themes
[10:16] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:17] <Zelda> !help themes
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok thats good. when you type somthing on the command line and you get no return. then you can assume that the action you typed went through
[10:17] <gr2> shrimpy: if I try: modprobe ndiswrapper -l   I get: /lib/modules/........
[10:17] <pukeko> tarzeau: so no to ubuntu then ? i already have debian on it
[10:17] <tarzeau> pukeko: gnome? how much memory does it have?
[10:17] <deCon> mazza558, now ill check by watching youtube
[10:17] <tarzeau> pukeko: forget gnome on a sparc...
[10:17] <Th3Kymera> some one have a notebook hp DV2000??
[10:18] <L> ciao
[10:18] <eck> tarzeau: what do you think sun uses?
[10:18] <janusz> gg
[10:18] <tarzeau> pukeko: you know sparc is a great computer. but gnome... gnome is not great software
[10:18] <pukeko> tarzeau: no gui necessary..
[10:18] <mazza558> decon: tell me if it works :)
[10:18] <tarzeau> eck: sun are retards
[10:18] <Hutch323> Zelda - Just go to system/preferences/themes and change to whatever you like.
[10:18] <L> #virtual.cr3w
[10:18] <tarzeau> eck: they've dumped objective-c for java. they hold fix on solaris. and they dumped lighthouse design applications, instead they promoted staroffice/openoffice
[10:18] <tarzeau> eck: they are the really retards!
[10:19] <L> on irc. virutal-irc . org
[10:19] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok mmm try restarting X one more time.
[10:19] <L> join #virtual.cr3w
[10:19] <eck> tarzeau: maybe so, but there is no problem running gnome on a sparc
[10:19] <ruda> where in the word gnome had use objective c?
[10:19] <ruda> world
[10:19] <tarzeau> eck: not if it has only 64mb or less memory
[10:20] <deCon> mazza558, nope...still the same
[10:20] <Th3Kymera> how can I give more memory to my graphics card??'
[10:20] <ruda> Gnome is completely in C
[10:20] <tarzeau> ruda: nobody claimed so, but look at the original goal and what the abbreviation gnome means
[10:20] <gr2> shrimpy: ok be right back
[10:20] <Th3Kymera> it's go 6150 nvidia
[10:20] <deCon> mazza558, and it starts playing...but no audio, and it could be conflicting with amaroK...i dont know
[10:20] <tarzeau> ruda: and that's the problem :)
[10:20] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok
[10:20] <eck> tarzeau: ugh, you can't really run any WM with that much memory any more
[10:20] <ruda> gnome is for CORBA
[10:21] <ruda> GNUStep uses Objective C
[10:21] <ferret> eck: There are more and better low-resource wmsnow than there were 5 years ago.
[10:21] <ruda> like Mac OSX's COCOA
[10:21] <tarzeau> eck: crap
[10:21] <mazza558> decon: ah, i think i know what it could be... give me a sec
[10:21] <tarzeau> eck: look at openstep, runs perfect w/ 8mb, look at www.linuks.mine.nu/screenshots/amiwm.png 48mb sparc classic
[10:21] <jovan> resolution of 1440x900 makes screen buggy, is there a fix for this?
[10:21] <eck> ferret: yeah, but X11 has gottenbiger
[10:21] <tatters> I messed up my fstab file, is there a way to reset it back to default?
[10:21] <deCon> ugh, i'm almost ready to switch back to windows...stupid beryl must be causing tons of issues, cuz sound/video/printing all have issues...booo, and i thought i was moving up
[10:22] <SnapLinux> why is the windows google earth so much more detailed than what im getting on linux version?
[10:22] <deCon> mazza558, thanks!
[10:22] <gr2> shrimpy: ok back
[10:22] <Sub> deCon, whats wrong with running linux without beryl>?
[10:22] <beland> hey all
[10:22] <ruda> FSF never gives importance to GNUStep
[10:22] <Sub> seems crazy to go back because eye candy doesnt work.
[10:22] <gr2> shrimpy: phone call, 3 minutes, wont take long
[10:22] <Shrimpy_> gr2: welcom
[10:22] <eck> same deal, i hope i you're running xfree86 if you have that much ram
[10:22] <Zelda> nevermind I got it
[10:22] <deCon> Sub, nothing, it just makes things easier to organize, and prettier
[10:22] <beland> i'm not able to recieve anything by dcc of irc, what should I do to fix that ?
[10:22] <Shrimpy_> gr2: any luck this time?
[10:22] <Sub> SnapLinux, check your preferences, - you might be on low textures.
[10:22] <tarzeau> ruda: on the other hand GNUstep never gave importance to GNU. nobody cares about FSF do we?
[10:22] <ruda> they supported Gnome against KDE , in the time Qt was proprietary
[10:22] <hwMoD|buntu> Hi all, I have a problem with sound recording - ubuntu records the wave digital output, instead of the microhpne, and I cannot make it change - could anyone give me any advices or pointers?
[10:23] <eck> ruda: gnome is not a FSF project
[10:23] <hwMoD|buntu> I can only transmit the computer's sounds through skype, not fun
[10:23] <SnapLinux> i set to highest and slowest but still crappy i think they shafting linux users
[10:23] <Wicks> im booting from a feisty live cd... and its asking for usename and password. any ideas?
[10:23] <Sub> hwMoD|buntu, goto system-prefs-sound - then "sound capture device" - change that to what you need
[10:23] <mazza558> decon: sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[10:23] <Flannel> Wicks: are you booting a real Feisty? or some other unofficial flavor?
[10:23] <ruda> eck: it's not a question of being hosted
[10:24] <mazza558> then change: FIREFOX_DSP="none" to IREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[10:24] <ruda> eck: FSF/GNU enforces gnome
[10:24] <Wicks> Flannel : real from the canonical mirror lol
[10:24] <mazza558> that should fix your sound problem at least
[10:24] <SnapLinux> Wicks try guest/guest
[10:24] <hwMoD|buntu> sub - thanks!
[10:24] <deCon> mazza558, whats the issue?
[10:24] <gekkoo> is it possible to change the resolution of the ttX terminals?
[10:24] <eck> ruda: they recommend gnome, but gnome is completely independent
[10:24] <gr2> shrimpy: no luck
[10:24] <mat1980> wiks, are you installing it?
[10:24] <tarzeau> gekkoo: x or not?
[10:24] <deCon> mazza558, i notice amarok on GNOME/Beryl is bitchy...takes some CPU and sometimes audio quits out..
[10:24] <Wicks> SnapLinux: authentication failed
[10:24] <mazza558> decon: I think the sound problem was to do with the codec firefox was using
[10:24] <Flannel> Wicks: did you verify the md5 of the ISO?  and check the CD for defects?
[10:25] <hwMoD|buntu> sub - any idea where that is in xubuntu?
[10:25] <gekkoo> tarzeau: i mean the terminals which are accesible through ctrl+alt+F1-6
[10:25] <XCute4God> Im using ubuntu 7.04, everything is working in my hp dv6058cl fine with noapic and a lot of other kernel parameters, but my "ONDEMAND" power scheme only works in 1600 Mhz, not throttling to 800mhz... anyone can help me please? :)
[10:25] <tarzeau> gekkoo: try fbset or svgatextmode
[10:25] <SnapLinux> tru ubuntu / ubuntu
[10:25] <tarzeau> gekkoo: yes they can be resized
[10:25] <ruda> eck: they recommended gnome in the time gnome was a completely crap
[10:25] <Wicks> prolly the disk
[10:25] <Sub> hwMoD|buntu, no idea sorry - try asking in #xubuntu
[10:25] <tarzeau> ruda: did that ever change? gnome is no more complete crap?
[10:25] <ruda> eck: and GNUStep was something or could be better
[10:25] <eck> ruda: that was many years ago ;-)
[10:25] <mazza558> decon: beryl is still in beta. try turning off some of the plugins like "blur"
[10:25] <Flannel> Wicks: please do so.  Apparently some people (with corrupt disks) sometimes are asked for passwords.
[10:25] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know what is the directory where i should unpack .tar.gz files to? do i just put the folder in '/usr/lib'?
[10:25] <gr2> shrimpy: still get 0%. btw it reads the line when I configure (80% signal) but on the network status it gives me 0%
[10:25] <deCon> mazza558, ok... and beryl...kill blur?
[10:25] <ruda> eck: yes, I know... That's why we have Gnome and KDE... two bizarre desktops
[10:25] <SnapLinux> i forget what my live cd came up with  but user and pas were the same'
[10:26] <tarzeau> ruda, eck we also have http://livecd.gnustep.org/
[10:26] <hyapadi> hi, how to check bad sector in linux?
[10:26] <ruda> tarzeau: I know.. i know
[10:26] <deCon> mazza558, blur isn't on
[10:26] <mazza558> decon: turn off any plugins you can find that you don't want
[10:26] <gr2> shrimpy: maybe we should install the windows drivers?
[10:26] <mazza558> decon: what plugins do you have on?
[10:26] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:26] <SnapLinux> anyone using the mint distro of kbuntu?
[10:26] <Shrimpy_> gr2: i'm sure the window drive will not support liunx.
[10:27] <gr2> shrimpy: right, i should let my mind not speak freely.
[10:27] <priich> Umm so i did some housecleaning and got rid of aptitude. It took these packages with it:  upstart-compat-sysv startup-tasks system-services upstart-logd upstart.    Are those as important as they sound or can i restart without worrying ?
[10:27] <deCon> mazza558, i just turned off "window decoration" and the top bar of all windows disappeared, but i can still grab the invisible area
[10:27] <Shrimpy_> gr2: haha
[10:27] <leku> how do I switch my default window manager and login manager from gdm/gnome to enlightenment?
[10:27] <ruda> tarzeau: I'm aware of GNUStep; i use to used in a few years ago, with Window Maker. but it's like to use something from the 90's (in my point of view)
[10:27] <Flannel> priich: why'd you get rid of aptitude?
[10:27] <Jack31> has anyone gotten timidity working???????
[10:27] <eck> priich: you definitely want those packages
[10:27] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok let me check into this can you list your card again?
[10:27] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:27] <priich> hehe i figured as much. Thanks for confirmation.
[10:28] <mazza558> decon: window decoration uses the emerald themes. It is important to keep that on if you want to use the beryl themes
[10:28] <bartzitz> i have qemu from binary package (works), and installed kqemu from source package with current kernel headers. kqemu module is loaded but qemu says it's not, how can i fix it?
[10:28] <tarzeau> ruda: you're talking about look. i'm talking about feel
[10:28] <XCute4God> Im using ubuntu 7.04, everything is working in my hp dv6058cl fine with noapic and a lot of other kernel parameters, but my "ONDEMAND" power scheme only works in 1600 Mhz, not throttling to 800mhz... anyone can help me please? :)
[10:28] <gr2> shrimpy: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[10:28] <deCon> mazza558, fading, 3d effects, wobbly windows, window decoration, desktop cube...but none of these are "plugins" right...
[10:28] <mjunx> hey, why can't I join #ubuntu-devel? nothing happens...
[10:28] <Phrozen_One[Away> how can I add a ddns entry in the /etc/hosts file, to clarify, instead of an ip addresses corresponding to a hostname, it will be a hostname to hostname entry
[10:28] <jago25> knetworkmanager isn't showing wireless networks anymore :/
[10:28] <mjunx> hey, I've got one of those, gr2
[10:28] <deroxx> I need help configuring wlan for my laptop. anyone who can help me?
[10:28] <ruda> tarzeau: does gnustep have a native web browser?
[10:28] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok give me five mins and i'll come back with something! (hopefully)
[10:28] <mazza558> decon: they an be referred to as plugins :)
[10:28] <tarzeau> ruda: no it doesn't
[10:29] <deCon> mazza558, under extras...i just use the Water effect (thought not often, but i have it on to allow it) , window previews, and dbus...thats it
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: ask that in #gnustep
[10:29] <ruda> tarzeau: I mean, if I want to use gnome, i expect to use tools from that environment, I never do kde apps
[10:29] <mazza558> decon: do you have animations on?
[10:29] <gr2> shrimpy: I will wait :-) and see if i can find anything
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: same here
[10:29] <gr2> junx: you are on an intel ??
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: i also love consistency
[10:29] <deCon> mazza558, yes
[10:29] <ruda> tarzeau: I really like GNUSTEP... They do a nice peace of work
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: not even k3b? i mean i hate gnome file dialogs
[10:29] <awpti> Anyone have any experience with prboom?  (doom port)
[10:29] <mazza558> decon: what animations are you using?
[10:29] <erstazi> !gwenview
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwenview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ruda> not even k3b, too much buttons
[10:30] <eck> tarzeau: you should try gnomebaker
[10:30] <gr2> junx: because I cant get it to connect to my wireless network
[10:30] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:30] <tarzeau> ruda: if you ever used the original, OPENSTEP, see http://gnu.ethz.ch/www.levenez.com/ thats was even far more kickass
[10:30] <mjunx> gr2, yeah, I have the same card
[10:30] <deCon> mazza558, dream and beam up...and fire for closing windowx
[10:30] <tarzeau> eck: i did, and i didn't like it
[10:30] <bartzitz> i have qemu from binary package (works), and installed kqemu from source package with current kernel headers. kqemu module is loaded but qemu says it's not, how can i fix it?
[10:30] <ruda> tarzeau: cool pix
[10:30] <gr2> junx: and shrimpy is trying to help me. does it work on your ubuntu 7.04?
[10:30] <mjunx> gr2, yeah, it did, but now I'm testing gutsy (7.10) ;p
[10:31] <jscheel> Hello! I've mounted an offsite drive through sshfs, and am using gedit to modify files on the drive. Everything has worked fine for the past week, but now, I get a permissions error when trying to save. When I look in the file's directory, there is a copy of the file ending with a '~'. I have to delete this file to save my actual file in gedit. Any ideas on what's going on?
[10:31] <mazza558> decon: those are some of beryl's most CPU-intensive features (apart from blur). it might be a good idea to change them to "fade"
[10:31] <gr2> junx: how did you get it to work? :-)
[10:31] <mjunx> gr2, quick diagnostic that you can run from a terminal: lsmod | grep ipw2200
[10:31] <tarzeau> eck, ruda on linux systems i do most things in the console (screen, ocp, zsh, minicom, awk, irssi, nethack, bc, tcc, whatever)
[10:31] <theconartist> anyone know how to run an app in its own x session?
[10:31] <priich> Well it seems they weren't removed but will be if i do an autoremove. Is there a way to move them off the "autoremove" list ?
[10:31] <mjunx> gr2, worked out of the box :)
[10:31] <gr2> junx: ok let me try
[10:31] <tarzeau> theconartist: Xnest ?
[10:31] <steve__> lo
[10:31] <deCon> mazza558, i have a dual core AMD, my computer can handle the loads i believe, i just think its a beryl bug?
[10:31] <gr2> junx: btw it works on other connections. i just connected to a pirate non protected wireless connection and it worked
[10:31] <mc__> tarzeau: we're a dieing race
[10:32] <tarzeau> mc__: oh and mc :)
[10:32] <mat1980> Xcute4God, what's the output of cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies ?
[10:32] <mazza558> decon: it depends on your graphics card more than anything.
[10:32] <tarzeau> mc__: no way! as long as the gui counterparts are horrible way back
[10:32] <mjunx> gr2, are you trying to connect to an encrypted network?
[10:32] <steve__> ive just installed ubuntu (all good) however my refresh rates are wrong, its limited to either 50 or 55, it should be 75 (lcd) ,
[10:32] <eck> tarzeau: same, but a pretty DE is still nice
[10:32] <tarzeau> mc__: oh and let's not forget emacs :)
[10:32] <gr2> junx: yes. Wep, hexadecimal network.
[10:32] <mc__> tarzeau: yeah i just used SLIME for cl development
[10:32] <mjunx> emacs? psh, vi all the way </flameware>
[10:32] <mazza558> decon: what graphics card are you using?
[10:32] <deCon> mazza558, the video still starts, then stops...as if it can't load anymore...and the bottom browser bar still is sending shit. I did some network and browser tweaks similar to fasterfox but i used it, as well as swiftfox, and the actual conf type tweaking...i hope this isn't why
[10:33] <mjunx> gr2, I haven't tried connecting to one, but how are you attempting to connect to it? via network manager?
[10:33] <mc__> tarzeau: well GUI's can never beat CUI's in everything
[10:33] <deCon> mazza558, nvidia 7800gt extreme
[10:33] <asc> I reinstalled Amarok (apt-get remove --purge, rm-rf ~/.kde, apt-get install amarok) because it was behaving strangely.  Now, it freezes immediately after startup with a spinning cursor and the window doesn't update.  Anybody know what this is?
[10:33] <mjunx> mc__, CLI*
[10:33] <mc__> tarzeau: at least not in flexibility
[10:33] <deCon> mazza558, i believe they worked fine under edgy...
[10:33] <gr2> junx: via the default network thing on the bottom
[10:33] <mc__> mjunx: yes,typo
[10:33] <hbaigu> bartzitz: did you do all of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:33] <mjunx> gr2, alright, then here's some fun terminal stuff to try
[10:33] <gartt> I installed the system by resizing the existing partitions and installing on the freed up space.  Is there any way, after doing this to get rid of the old unused partition and free up the whole disk for this OS without reinstalling?
[10:33] <mazza558> decon: the beryl problems appears to be a bug.
[10:33] <Kazol> how do I upgrade to the newest Firefox version in Dapper?
[10:33] <mjunx> gr2, iwconfig
[10:33] <gr2> shrimpy: I just found out that my connection works on non protected networks
[10:33] <Phrozen_One[Away> how can I add a ddns entry in the /etc/hosts file, to clarify, instead of an ip addresses corresponding to a hostname, it will be a hostname to hostname entry
[10:33] <deCon> asc, i have some amarok issues as well, i'm wondering if it is just for kde or something
[10:33] <gr2> junx: ok let me try
[10:33] <bartzitz> hbaigu: let me check
[10:34] <gartt> I know it's kinda a basic question...
[10:34] <mazza558> decon: about the video, is this embedded, and is it using the totem player?
[10:34] <mjunx> gr2, see if it tries to set the right settings for your wireless
[10:34] <FurryNemesis> hi all
[10:34] <deCon> mazza558, what about using Compiz? it is an option ... its embedded video
[10:34] <eck> Phrozen_One[Away: you can't
[10:34] <asc> deCon: If it helps at all, I don't have KDE installed, just the parts that are necessary for Amarok
[10:34] <Kazol> How do I upgrade Firefox? The one in synaptec is too old.
[10:34] <FurryNemesis> is anyone using the new gspca driver for their webcam? Need a little help compiling if you've got the time...
[10:34] <gr2> junx: hmm let me give you the output
[10:34] <mazza558> decon: yeah, compiz should be a lot less buggy for the time being.
[10:34] <raf256> hi
[10:34] <Kazol> The new Firefox version is a tar.gz file. How do I install it?
[10:34] <Flannel> Kazol: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:35] <theconartist> tarzeau, how do i get an app to run under the xnest display it if it doesnt have it's own -display option?
[10:35] <mjunx> gr2, alrighty
[10:35] <mazza558> decon: could i have a look at the page you're trying to get to play, to see if it's just a problem with the site?
[10:35] <deCon> asc, i have no idea sorry, i was just wondering if ti was possible that it behaves strange because of desktop enviroment, whether is kde or beryl issue...you don't have beryl do you?
[10:35] <gr2> junx, its pretty long ill paste it in private window
[10:35] <mjunx> Flannel, just unarchive it and run the "firefox" executable inside it
[10:35] <jscheel> any ideas on the sshfs / gedit problem?
[10:35] <eck> Phrozen_One[Away: closest you can get is to run a local bind server, or something along those lines
[10:35] <XCute4God> mat1980: 1600000 800000
[10:35] <tarzeau> theconartist: haha, i also love X
[10:35] <asc> deCon: Nope, I guess it's probably unrelated
[10:35] <Kazol> Flannel: dapper
[10:35] <deCon> mazza558, its every video i try to play, regardless of webpage...some dont play at all and just appear black (but its always black where another window had covered it
[10:35] <deCon> asc, probably an amaroK issue
[10:36] <awpti> This prboom install keeps locking my laptop up <video, anyway>.  go to fire the gun and boom..freeze.
[10:36] <Flannel> Kazol: why don't you upgrade?  I imagine, if you're lamenting the old version of FF, you're probably going to enjoy the new versions of everything else as well
[10:36] <Kazol> Flannel: To edgy?
[10:36] <BoneE> is there a way to run ubuntu on USB drive
[10:36] <asc> !slap amarok
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap amarok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <Phrozen_One[Away> eck, the overhead on that would be too high, an alias will be just as good
[10:36] <mazza558> decon: try using compiz and see if this solves it
[10:36] <gr2> junx: ok let me post it here
[10:36] <Flannel> Kazol: sure, or all the way to feisty if you'd like (through edgy though, so ... upgrade to edgy first, then see if you want feisty)
[10:36] <Shrimpy_> gr2: try and type this in   "lsmod | grep ipw"
[10:37] <Kazol> Flannel: I don't want to lose my settings.
[10:37] <eck> Phrozen_One[Away: well afaik you cannot do it without running your own dns server
[10:37] <deCon> mazza558, the problem i have with compiz (the ONLY problem...cept i haven't checked the bugs i've been having in compiz)...is that the themes don't work for it...so i end up having no top bar with the close window buttons etc
[10:37] <mjunx> Shrimpy_, we tried that I believe
[10:37] <gr2> junx: eth1      unassociated  ESSID:"DB"
[10:37] <gr2>           Mode:Managed  Channel=0  Access Point: Not-Associated
[10:37] <gr2>           Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=8/0
[10:37] <gr2>           Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[10:37] <gr2>           Power Management:off
[10:37] <gr2>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[10:37] <gr2>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[10:37] <bartzitz> hbaigu: does it matter if i created an image with kqemu disabled before?
[10:37] <gr2>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[10:37] <FurryNemesis> BoneE, yes, install it to a USB drive if you've got one big enough (2-4 gig should do) then pray that the comp you want it on can boot USB from BIOS
[10:37] <gr2> shrimpy: ok, 1 sec
[10:37] <mjunx> aiee, !pastebin
[10:37] <Flannel> !paste | gr2
[10:37] <ubotu> gr2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <Kazol> Flannel: How is Feisty better anyway?
[10:37] <Flannel> Kazol: Upgrading won't make you lose your settings.
[10:37] <deCon> !pastebin > gr2
[10:37] <mjunx> gr2, it doesn't even associate itself with the accesspoint apparently
[10:37] <Flannel> Kazol: They're just newer.  Well, and Feisty has a bunch of new features
[10:37] <Kazol> Flannel: So I could directly upgrade Dapper to Feisty?
[10:37] <mazza558> decon: right click on the beryl icon and change the window decorator to GTK
[10:37] <FurryNemesis> BoneE, but make sure it;s ext3 formatted first
[10:37] <Shrimpy_> mjunx: ok :)
[10:38] <mazza558> decon: then change to compiz
[10:38] <Flannel> Kazol: no.  You'd upgrade Dapper to Edgy, then Edgy to Feisty.
[10:38] <deCon> mazza558, ewwwwwww, soooo....plain. *vomit*
[10:38] <Flannel> Kazol: http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/610  and http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/704
[10:38] <Kazol> Flannel: And I won't lose my settings (such as background, panels), programs, desklets?
[10:38] <deCon> mazza558, and in compiz, i can't use mouse wheel to rotate my workspaces
[10:38] <mjunx> gr2, you can try changing its AP ESSID (router name) to see if that works via this command: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "Router Name"
[10:38] <awpti>  i can't think about what else to install on this laptop.
[10:38] <Flannel> Kazol: that's correct.  It's an upgrade.  Have you used any third party repositories?  or anything like automatix?
[10:38] <gr2> junx, shrimpy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19026/
[10:38] <deCon> mazza558, OR any beryl features for that matter
[10:39] <mazza558> decon: does this at least solve your problem with the web pages?
[10:39] <awpti> got gkrellm.. xchat..
[10:39] <bartzitz> hbaigu: does it matter if i created an image with kqemu disabled before?
[10:39] <mjunx> gr2, if that solves the problem, then the problem must be a bug with the NetworkManager program
[10:39] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:39] <deCon> mazza558, ill check
[10:39] <gr2> junx: what should I change the name to?
[10:39] <thelostpatrol> i've been asking for hours now
[10:39] <thelostpatrol> :<
[10:39] <hbaigu> bartzitz: it should not matter, is qemu saying that couldn't blah /dev/kqemu
[10:39] <Flannel> !repeat | thelostpatrol
[10:39] <ubotu> thelostpatrol: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:39] <dountby__> doesnt anyone know how to reconstruct my desktop-icons?
[10:39] <bob535> mkay, having a problem upgrading from edgy to fiesty, non-net connected computer using the DVD. It still tries to connect to the internet to upgrade and fails the upgrade when it does this
[10:39] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know what is the directory where i should unpack .tar.gz files to? do i just put the folder in '/usr/lib'?
[10:39] <compengi> i got 3 users connected to my pc which is me my self, is there a way to more about those users?
[10:39] <Kazol> Flannel: I only use gkrellm, gkdesklets, and some other small programs (that I don't care about). Would I have to reinstall my wifi and nvidia drivers?
[10:39] <bartzitz> hbaigu: Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated
[10:39] <mjunx> gr2, the name of your router
[10:39] <tarzeau> Tarkus: /usr/lib is very bad
[10:39] <Neil-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/110126 hey guys
[10:39] <Neil-> someone else has confirmed my bug - shall i change its status to confirmed?
[10:39] <gr2> shrimpy: is that what you expected?
[10:39] <tarzeau> Tarkus: put it in ~/src or /usr/src
[10:40] <bartzitz> hbaigu: lsmod | grep emu: kqemu                 124580  0
[10:40] <Flannel> Kazol: no.  They'll upgrade too.  Er, you used package manager to install them, right?  not compiling?
[10:40] <Shrimpy_> gr2: yeah
[10:40] <eck> Tarkus: you should try to keep thing in your home directory as much as possible
[10:40] <kira_> hi all! Somebody maybe have the same trouble like me with firefox2.0 and Ubuntu 7.04 ? Firefox crash very often...
[10:40] <bXi> is it correct that the ubuntu kernel+initrd are only 10mb together?
[10:40] <spookcomix> Good afternoon ladies and gents.  "Quick question:"  I've got Kubuntu on my wife's laptop.  Even running Edgy, it never would display the boot-up "splash screen" while Kubuntu is loading.  It just goes black.  After it boots, it shows the login screen just fine, and there are no other errors that I can tell.  I just upgraded it to Feisty with the exact same issue.  Any thoughts?
[10:40] <compengi> kira_, nope
[10:40] <hbaigu> bartzitz: yes, see the permissions 'ls -l /dev/kqemu'
[10:40] <ussjoin> Ubuntu 7.04 - I can't get the computer to recognize that my DVDRW drive exists. There's no entry for it at all in /dev, and no messages about it that I see in dmesg. Any thoughts as to how to debug?
[10:40] <compengi> kira_, firefox never crashed with me
[10:40] <Shrimpy_> gr2: modprobe ipw2200
[10:40] <Kazol> Flannel: I'm mainly concerned about wifi drivers. I used some kind of network manager applet instead of ndiswrapper. I'm too much of a newbie to compile programs. I use apt-get.
[10:41] <Flannel> bXi: yeah.  Something like that.  But you'll have a few at a time.  So /boot should be a smidge more.
[10:41] <deCon> mazza558, no audio still....its wierd, as if my sound trades off if i have amarok open...amarok keeps sound all to itself or something, i've had some issues in the past with amaroK randomly saying some xine error and then nothing will work until i restart x
[10:41] <bartzitz> hbaigu: crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 62 2007-05-03 23:36 /dev/kqemu
[10:41] <Tarkus> eck: its in my home directory right now, but since all my other program files are in /usr/lib im wondering why this program shouldnt be..
[10:41] <bartzitz> hbaigu: i guess i should change the group to kqemu?
[10:41] <eck> Tarkus: are you compiling it?
[10:41] <Flannel> Kazol: Good.  Then you won't have any issues upgrading.  And, Feisty has a new network manager thing, although, I don't know much about it.
[10:41] <mjunx> bartzitz, you gotta either run qemu as root (bad idea) or chown root:adm /dev/kqemu
[10:41] <mazza558> decon: i have an idea about the sound issue... go to system, preferences, sound
[10:41] <gr2> shrimpy: the command modprobe went through
[10:41] <joeExample2> hi all
[10:41] <mjunx> gr2, does that fix it?
[10:41] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[10:42] <jshewey> So.. I installed beryl, but when I run beryl-manager, it is trying to use aiglx instead of xgl
[10:42] <joeExample2> anybody know how to get ubuntu to recognize 4-way scrolling?
[10:42] <ussjoin> Kazol: The network manager in Feisty rocks-- I highly recommend it.
[10:42] <bob535> mkay, having a problem upgrading from edgy to fiesty, non-net connected computer using the DVD. It still tries to connect to the internet to upgrade and fails the upgrade when it does this - please private message me if you can help
[10:42] <hbaigu> bartzitz: i also installed kqemu today, and i got the same thing,  do what mjunx said
[10:42] <mazza558> decon: then see if you can change the sound device to be different for the music as opposed to the general system sounds
[10:42] <joeExample2> My company gave me a M$ mouse which has it
[10:42] <eck> Tarkus: if so, you run the configure script with --prefix=/usr and build it in your home directory, and then when you make install it will put the files into /usr
[10:42] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok that means that ubuntu know's your wifi card. and it's loading. i just don't know why it does not want to connect.
[10:42] <ussjoin> Kazol: And in general my experience with wifi under Feisty (I use ipw3945) has been more positive than ever before.
[10:42] <variant> jshewey: so?
[10:42] <bartzitz> hbaigu: crw-rw---- 1 root kqemu 10, 62 2007-05-03 23:36 /dev/kqemu
[10:42] <Tarkus> eck: i dont know. im new to linux so i dont understand much, but its 'songbird' and when i unpack it there is an executable file inside, along with many other files. and when i run the executable the program runs fine. (i didnt install it, just unpacked).
[10:42] <bartzitz> hbaigu: i've adde the kqemu like in the ubuntu artice
[10:42] <mjunx> bartzitz, are you in the kqemu group then?
[10:42] <Kazol> Flannel: The applet I'm concerned about is called "NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2." It's the only thing that's keeping my wifi working. I didn't use ndiswrapper.
[10:42] <compengi> LjL, i got 3 users of user compengi running on my pc, and i have 1 terminal only opened.. can i check from where is the other user?
[10:42] <bartzitz> mjunx: yes
[10:42] <gr2> junx: no it did not work
[10:42] <mjunx> bartzitz, then you're set
[10:43] <jshewey> JoeExample2: You need to set horizscrolldelta and vertscrolldelta options in your xorg.conf file
[10:43] <eck> Tarkus: i would personally recomemend unpacking it into a prefix in your home directory and adding that to your path
[10:43] <deCon> mazza558, k... btw...video stopped, i'm going to try GNOME and see if it works...it may be an issue with my network tweaks that i did? I dont know...i ran some different websites optimization configs and everything is fast as hell....probably unrelated, but maybe the servers are nerfing me because i'm network overclocked
[10:43] <ussjoin> Kazol: The new netmanager should be better than that, even.
[10:43] <Braddf0rd> Does anyone know where I can find a list of IRC channels for Ubuntu?
[10:43] <Kazol> ussjoin: I had to use "NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2" instead of ndiswrapper to get my Belkin wifi to work.
[10:43] <mjunx> gr2, does "lsmod | grep ipw2200" show anything?
[10:43] <bartzitz> mjunx: well, the same problem
[10:43] <hbaigu> bartzitz: but do the user is also in kqemu group
[10:43] <gr2> shrimpy: the wireless card works on Unencrympted networks
[10:43] <mjunx> bartzitz, if you _just_ added yourself to that group, you gotta log out and back in
[10:43] <jshewey> variant: So I have an ati card and it won't work with aiglx without going to the buggy open source driver.
[10:43] <gr2> shrimpy: i found out 5 min ago, connected to unprotected wireless network
[10:43] <ussjoin> Kazol: I understand. Ndiswrapper is only a stopgap-- and not using it is therefore good as it makes your upgrade easier, not harder.
[10:43] <gr2> junx: one sec let me paste it
[10:43] <mazza558> decon: I now have truely no idea about your sound problem.
[10:43] <Flannel> Kazol: is that a part of gdesklets? or what?  Sorry, But... if you installed it via apt-get, it'll upgrade fine.
[10:43] <eck> Tarkus: especially because a binary program like that is going to be messy to remove, putting it in your home directory will make things easy foryou and ensure that it doesn't overwrite any system files
[10:43] <bartzitz> mjunx: will try now
[10:43] <variant> jshewey: which card exactly?
[10:43] <grungehead> hello. i have an usb-pendrive with an ext3 partition. in /etc/fstab i added the options "errors=remount-ro,nosuid,noexec,users,user,data=ordered", but i don't have write acces as a normal user. i don't want to bind it to a single user, so how can i set writepermissions for all users?
[10:44] <alfplayer> how do i scale the vncviewer window?
[10:44] <Shrimpy_> gr2: so it deos connect, just having problems with your secure network?
[10:44] <mjunx> Shrimpy_, sounds like the wep thing
[10:44] <ompaul> compengi, do a who<< or w<< in a termial also do a last<<
[10:44] <ussjoin> alfplayer: It's ordinarily fixed to the resolution your server is sending out, e.g., 'you can't."
[10:44] <variant> grungehead: set the permissions on the files on the partition (ext supports permissions)
[10:44] <Kazol> ussjoin: I'll try installing Edgy, then Feisty later today. I'm looking forward for it. I hope my wifi works!
[10:44] <gr2> junx: shrmipy already asked before: heres the post i think: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19026/
[10:44] <neverblue> how can i entirely remove apache2?
[10:44] <Braddf0rd> I'm looking for a list of Ubuntu IRC channels to get specific help on certain issues, can someone help me find a list of channels?
[10:44] <deCon> mazza558, any ideas which to use? ...any of them? thanks for all the effort :(...it could be amaroK?
[10:44] <Tarkus> eck: oh, i though all i do to remove it is delete the folder and its gone.. because all i did was unpack. so correct me if im wrong here.
[10:44] <ussjoin> Kazol: You're on dapper now?
[10:44] <neverblue> EVERYTHING
[10:44] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[10:44] <jshewey> variant: according to lspci Radeon Mobility X1600
[10:44] <neverblue> even php5
[10:44] <Shrimpy_> mjunx: yes sir, know  much about it?
[10:44] <mjunx> gr2, and I asked you that first lol; that's not the problem though
[10:44] <gr2> shrimpy: yes it appears so. i am now using someone elses unprotected network
[10:44] <ward_> i just installed compiz-extra and no extra stuff appears in GLdeskop in the menu
[10:44] <Flannel> !upgrade | Kazol
[10:45] <ubotu> Kazol: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:45] <ward_> tany ideas
[10:45] <mjunx> Shrimpy_, nope, I don't use insecure encryption
[10:45] <ward_> t?
[10:45] <eck> Tarkus: is there not a folder hierarchy in the tarball?
[10:45] <gr2> junx: lol sorry
[10:45] <grungehead> variant: i want to have full acces so i even can write new files...
[10:45] <LjL> compengi: "who"
[10:45] <variant> jshewey: ok, definatly an proprietry driver required there unfortunatly :/
[10:45] <Draconicus> Is it possible to get spyware or adware with Firefox in Ubuntu Linux?
[10:45] <gr2> shrimpy: so the wireless card actually works
[10:45] <variant> grungehead: chown -R /path/to/mountpoint username
[10:45] <gekkoo> tarzeau: fbset worked fine, thanks :-)
[10:45] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok let me search for the wep problems ( there was been a few lately)
[10:45] <mjunx> gr2, you can try installing wpagui and configure your network with that
[10:45] <steve__> is there a list of monitor details somewhere? i need the HorizSync etc for a DELL E153FP
[10:45] <ussjoin> Draconius: Possible? Yes. Likely? Definitely not.
[10:45] <gr2> junx: did you receive the paste adress? is that what you were expecting?
[10:45] <eck> Draconicus: if there's a security vulnerability in firefox, sure
[10:45] <variant> Draconicus: only if you choose to install it
[10:45] <__mikem> LjL, gcc isn't letting me add /usr/include/wx-2.8/ to its search path, and I need to do this to use wxWidgets and I am getting ready to go postal
[10:45] <bartzitz> mjunx: hey that helped, thanks a lot!
[10:45] <compengi> ompaul, aha thanks... oh i see 1 user is still tuck which is where i was connected to my pc through ssh when i wasn't at home. how can i close this connection/
[10:45] <ussjoin> Draconius: On Linux, "Anything is Possible!" But bad things are hugely unlikely.
[10:45] <idonthaveonesodo> i have just installed an old version of ubuntu
[10:46] <mjunx> bartzitz, sounds good
[10:46] <Draconicus> variant: Gotcha.
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo> fresh install
[10:46] <neverblue> how can i entirely remove apache2? (everything) in ubuntu??
[10:46] <jshewey> variant: yep. So... Any idea why it is beryl is trying to use aiglx when I have xgl installd?
[10:46] <mjunx> gr2, yeah, that's it
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo>  i think its called hoary? its that a version name ??
[10:46] <eck> neverblue: apt-get remove --purge apache2
[10:46] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[10:46] <bartzitz> mjunx: however, is there any way to fix it without loggin out?
[10:46] <eck> idonthaveonesodo: a very old one, yes
[10:46] <joeExample2> jshewey: set them to 0?  1?  10?
[10:46] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Look at http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222 for a cute related story.
[10:46] <bartzitz> mjunx: not critical, but yet
[10:46] <Tarkus> eck: in the tarball there is one folder named "Songbird" which contains more folders and files..
[10:46] <mazza558> decon: what options do you have for the sound? I think there will be your sound driver and another sound driver which reads something like "Advanced Linux Sound" or something. Try using the sound driver for music, then have the other one for everything esle
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo> anyway, the install process never gave me a chance to pick up the root password
[10:46] <mjunx> bartzitz, well, open a new terminal perhaps
[10:46] <variant> jshewey: nope, if you're using beryl-manager it's easy enough to fix
[10:46] <ompaul> compengi, so ps auwx | grep ssh and find it
[10:46] <neverblue> eck that doesnt work
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo> how do i get to be root ! ?
[10:46] <neverblue> eck dir is still there
[10:46] <mjunx> idonthaveonesodo, sudo -i
[10:46] <neverblue> with files in it
[10:46] <bartzitz> mjunx: oh. true :)
[10:46] <spasticteapot> idonthaveonesodo: su
[10:46] <Flannel> !root | idonthaveonesodo
[10:46] <ubotu> idonthaveonesodo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:46] <erstazi> What app is good for "video screenshots"?
[10:46] <Kazol> ussjoin: yes
[10:47] <Flannel> spasticteapot: no.  Su is wrong.  Please don't recommend that.
[10:47] <mjunx> erstazi, recordmydesktop
[10:47] <mazza558> decon: also, try another music player to see if it makes a difference.
[10:47] <eck> Tarkus: i would just create a folder called ~/songbird that you unpack the files to, and then in your .bashrc add a line at the end that reads 'export PATH=$HOME/songbird:$PATH'
[10:47] <variant> jshewey: just right click the beryl manager icon and select xgl instead of aiglx
[10:47] <erstazi> mjunx, thank you
[10:47] <gr2> junx: ok install wpagui
[10:47] <spasticteapot> Huh. It USED to work.
[10:47] <gr2> junx *installing
[10:47] <neverblue> neither does aptitude
[10:47] <LjL> __mikem: why doesn't it let you?
[10:47] <Kazol> Flannel: This is how I installed the card: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 . It said "Dapper and Edgy", but I'm assuming it will work in Feisty?
[10:47] <deCon> mazza558, WTF....it works
[10:47] <ompaul> spasticteapot, not on ubuntu
[10:47] <ussjoin> Kazol: I tend to (and this will give people in here heart attacks, but) upgrade fully at once.
[10:47] <mjunx> spasticteapot, su uses root, root has random password unless you change it via, *drumroll*, sudo
[10:47] <mazza558> decon: what works?
[10:47] <spasticteapot> ompaul: Man Su says it will work....
[10:47] <deCon> mazza558, now video AND sound work on youtube....i restarted x
[10:47] <mazza558> decon :)
[10:47] <ussjoin> Kazol: I just find that gives me a smaller set of broken things to fix.
[10:47] <spasticteapot> mjunx: Heh.
[10:47] <spasticteapot> I forgot that I did that first.
[10:47] <eck> neverblue: then remoe them yourself
[10:47] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok, now the mouse doesn't work in windows vm
[10:47] <deCon> mazza558, think it could possibly be amaroK hogging something?
[10:48] <ward_> i just installed compiz-extra and no extra stuff appears in GLdeskop in the menu, how can i get to them please?
[10:48] <Kazol> ussjoin: what do you mean? Reformat and install?
[10:48] <Flannel> mjunx, spasticteapot: no. Root does NOT have a random password.  It has no password, as it's locked.
[10:48] <ussjoin> Kazol: That said, I do that on my laptop, and my data's svned so if I have to work somewhere else for a day, that's OK.
[10:48] <mjunx> bartzitz, you gotta click on the window first I believe
[10:48] <gr2> junx: installing, ill tell you when its up
[10:48] <gekkoo> now the next thing: how do I disable the beep in textmode (non-X terminals)?
[10:48] <idonthaveonesodo> ok ty i got it
[10:48] <ompaul> spasticteapot, and ehh it does not - you found a bug please report it su - $otheruser works
[10:48] <spasticteapot> flamesrock: It worked in Edgy.
[10:48] <compengi> ompaul, thanks alot
[10:48] <bartzitz> mjunx: yes sure, did, no cursor
[10:48] <ussjoin> Kazol: I like that too :-) but linux people hate that. What I meant was go straight from Dapper to Feisty, or whatnot.
[10:48] <Tarkus> eck: alright, right now its unpacked to '/home/mike/songbird' and it works fine. but i dont know what you mean by the .bashrc and 'export PATH=$HOME/songbird:$PATH'.
[10:48] <spasticteapot> ompaul: Man Su says it will give you root.
[10:48] <gr2> junx: i feel like such a microsoft n00b :-)
[10:48] <Kazol> ussjoin: That is possible?
[10:48] <ompaul> spasticteapot, its a bug file it
[10:48] <eck> Tarkus: open up the file ~/.bashrc in a text editor and add that line
[10:48] <spasticteapot> I'm running Feisty...just updated this morning.
[10:48] <ploom> gekkoo, please do "man xset" (without the quotes)
[10:48] <Flannel> spasticteapot: only if the root password is enabled, which it is not.
[10:48] <neverblue> eck, i wouldnt know what files apache installs
[10:48] <spasticteapot> ompaul: Where do I file it?
[10:48] <mjunx> gr2, don't worry, I'm just spouting out things based on experience
[10:48] <mazza558> decon: it could be. it's strange that that happened though. i'll make a last recommendation - reduce the amount of network "overclocking" :)
[10:48] <ompaul> spasticteapot, on launchpad.net
[10:49] <variant> spasticteapot: using su to become root is disabled on ubuntu
[10:49] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[10:49] <gekkoo> ploom: isn't that for the X-terminals?
[10:49] <Draconicus> ussjoin: Hee.. I've used Linux for years. I didn't think I could get any kind of spyware or adware because of the security stuff that's actually logical. I've noticed some unusual popup ads appearing seemingly out of nowhere, but now I realize that it's just clever javascripting on this site I've recently been visiting.
[10:49] <neverblue> eck, thanks for the try anyways
[10:49] <mazza558> decon: it might put more pressure on servers
[10:49] <Flannel> neverblue: purge apache2, apache2.2-common, apache2-utils, apache2-mpm-worker.. and I think that'd be it.  There'll be a few other packages (APR runtimes and stuff), but I dont know if other things depend on those or not
[10:49] <Kazol> ussjoin: This is how I configured my wifi card: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Will it work the same under Feisty?
[10:49] <mjunx> bartzitz, you might need a modified version of windows to use in a VM
[10:49] <Flannel> neverblue: but, those four will remove 90% of apache2, and all of the functionality.
[10:49] <gr2> junx: installed, whats the command to run wpagui lol
[10:49] <bartzitz> mjunx: mouse worked before, without kqemu
[10:49] <ussjoin> Kazol: Actually the skip upgrade's unsupported, looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion
[10:49] <tarzeau> www.dell.com/linux says nothing about ubuntu yet?
[10:49] <mjunx> gr2, wpa_gui
[10:49] <Tarkus> eck: what is that going to do?
[10:50] <mjunx> bartzitz, then it's probably a bug in kqemu, eh?
[10:50] <deCon> mazza558, dont know how..but it works now. i wonder if i can switch to beryl and if video will still work...going to try
[10:50] <compengi> ompaul, btw is it possible to install ubuntu through ssh?
[10:50] <mazza558> tarzeau: they'll add more info over he next month.
[10:50] <mjunx> bartzitz, try using qemu+kqemu with a different OS (e.g., ubuntu 7.04 disc)
[10:50] <neverblue> oh thank god, Flannel hey
[10:50] <eck> Tarkus: if you run 'echo $PATH' it will show you what directories bash looks for programs in when you run commands. this willjust add ~/songbird to the front of that list
[10:50] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok, will try to fix it somehow and let you know then
[10:50] <Shrimpy_> g2r: i have to leave now but i hope that you are able to connect to your network! have a good day
[10:50] <gr2> junx: ok. it doesnt read any adapter
[10:50] <hbaigu> bartzitz: do this before running qemu export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0
[10:50] <Kazol> ussjoin: I don't really mind installing Edgy as an intermediate step. But I am concerned whether this procedure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Will work in Feisty.
[10:50] <ompaul> compengi, anything is possibe (well almost) but I would not even give clock cycles to that manover it would drive you nuts
[10:50] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Right-- that's an odd website though. :-) But yes, the logical levels of security *nearly* always prevent priv-escalations-- and spyware is generally written toward the largest market, which isn't us, of course.
[10:50] <mazza558> decon: with any luck it should.
[10:50] <gr2> junx: in the scroll down menu, no "adapters" appears
[10:50] <bartzitz> hbaigu: ok thanks
[10:50] <mjunx> gr2, actually, it might be "gksu wpa_gui", try that
[10:50] <bob535> How can I force the edgy to upgrade to fiesty using only the DVD, the instructions given still requires (or it tries anyways) to connect to the internet which is not hooked up to the computer I am upgrading
[10:51] <eck> Tarkus: that way you can run it without specifying the whole path of the binary
[10:51] <Flannel> neverblue: the other few files would be libapr1 and libaprutil1,  mark those for removal, and see if you're removing anything else (that looks like it's not apache related), if so... don't remove them (other stuff might use the APR, I dont know)
[10:51] <neverblue> Flannel, can i take you to pm for a min instead?
[10:51] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Note that if the spyware is *really* a big issue to you (and security generally) then use OpenBSD. Ubuntu simply isn't designed for that level of impenetrability.
[10:51] <variant> bob535: if you have the correct sources.list that shouldnt happen
[10:51] <Flannel> neverblue: sure
[10:51] <jshewey> joeexample2: You can set them to whatever you want. the larger the value, the faster it will scroll. You can try googleing those terms to see an example xorg.conf file.
[10:51] <Tarkus> eck: oh, well i usualy go to the folder and double-click on the executable. (i use the GUI instead of terminal whenever its possible).
[10:51] <mjunx> bob535, I don't know the exact details, but you modify your repository settings to use files from the CD instead of the internet
[10:51] <deCon> mazza558, it does...however i'm still ont he problem train, when i restarted, my background disappeared, and it had a nautilus failure....? said something about bobboo or something
[10:51] <compengi> ompaul, aha.. then can i install ssh package on live cd?
[10:51] <hbaigu> bartzitz: i don't know if works
[10:51] <Kazol> Will this procedure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Work in Feisty?
[10:51] <eck> Tarkus: you can create a symlink on your desktop (or a program launcher somewhere)
[10:52] <ompaul> compengi, you could
[10:52] <mjunx> someone needs to invent a nonlinear version of IRC...
[10:52] <deCon> mazza558, restart X again? this time in Beryl without amaroK...and see if video will still play?
[10:52] <gr2> junx: it opens and says: could not get status from wpa_supplicant
[10:52] <ussjoin> Kazol: That page is pretty out of date. Ubuntu in 7.04 got a *lot* of companies to authorize firmware distribution-- so it's likely that it'll actually "just work."
[10:52] <mazza558> decon: that's a good idea.
[10:52] <eck> Tarkus: e.g. ln -s ~/songbird/the_name_of_the_binary ~/Desktop/Songbird
[10:52] <deCon> mazza558, furthermore it had a FAIL on my antivirus daemon....
[10:52] <chazco> hi... anyone know why hibernation breaks my USB bluetooth (pan service)?
[10:52] <Flannel> !install | compengi
[10:52] <compengi> ompaul, aha then how to start the install through the terminal?
[10:52] <ubotu> compengi: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:52] <ompaul> compengi, it will die after you shutdown unless you check out !persistance ( my spelling is wrong there)
[10:52] <ussjoin> Kazol: That said, if you could plug in *during* the upgrade (as it might break in Edgy, then work again in Feisty) that might be useful.
[10:52] <joeExample2> jshewey: thanks - I'll try it out
[10:52] <ompaul> compengi, get alternate CD
[10:53] <deCon> mazza558, why would nautilus fail, and why isn't my antivirus working automatically?
[10:53] <Draconicus> ussjoin: You're telling me, what with the whole thing built around sudo (one password makes things easier for users... and attackers :D) Anyway, popups were happening when I created new tabs. I now realize that the site has some firefox-proof scripts that make popups when you leave the page for whatever reason, but leave it open to run. Clever.
[10:53] <ompaul> compengi, what is on the box - and please I really don't want to think about this - it will have false starts I promise
[10:53] <Tarkus> eck: yea, alright, ill do that then. thanks for the help eck.
[10:53] <chazco> hibernation seems to prevent the bluetooth device from answering requests...any ideas?
[10:53] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[10:53] <h4wk0> Following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174.. I got two drivers in my windows partion "bcm4sbxp.sys.
[10:53] <eck> Draconicus: having a password protected root account also makes things easier for attackers
[10:53] <compengi> ompaul, lol i see... thanks anyway
[10:53] <h4wk0> Is that the correct one?
[10:53] <mjunx> gr2, run this then: "sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf"
[10:53] <Kazol> ussjoin: cool, I'll do it. If for some reason something gets screwed up, could I revert back to Dapper?
[10:53] <ussjoin> ussjoin: Well, I personally am in favor of the sudo escalation, if only because the password on the root account is bad in lots of ways.
[10:54] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[10:54] <ussjoin> Kazol: No-- not really.
[10:54] <mazza558> decon: there's any reason why something would fail. mainly it would be things not being compatible
[10:54] <mjunx> Kazol, reverting back to previous releases of software is a pain in the ass, but it's possible
[10:54] <ompaul> compengi, look at qemu and that is about all I will say
[10:54] <mazza558> decon: i think you mentioned upgrading from edgy?
[10:54] <gr2> junx: ok one sec
[10:54] <bob535> Variant could you tell me how to fix my sources.list in order to avoid it connecting to the internet during the upgrade?
[10:54] <deCon> mazza558, ya
[10:54] <marmoler> 7list
[10:54] <ussjoin> Draconicus: I actually like the sudo escalation over the root pw-- if only because it makes users recognize when they do something stupid, and yet prevents lots of root password issues.
[10:54] <gr2> junx: failed to read or parse configuration 'etc/....."
[10:54] <Flannel> Kazol: I suggest going to edgy.  And then waiting and seeing if it has everything you want.  If not, you cna always upgrade to Feisty later.  But, edgy will give you FF2, and a bunch of other stuff
[10:54] <isidoro> hi
[10:54] <chazco> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-dapper.git;a=commitdiff;h=58db2683478e24009dbae33ea76beafe47b356bb -- how can i see if this is intergrated in my kernel?
[10:55] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok, works, but cursor lags
[10:55] <variant> bob535: do you have a line in it specifiing the cd?
[10:55] <mjunx> gr2, try removing the last part with -c/etc/etc...
[10:55] <bartzitz> mjunx: will do for now
[10:55] <ussjoin> Draconicus: But one of the advantages of sudoishness to me is that users don't forget the secret code to do big things :-) so that's nice.
[10:55] <isidoro> who has experience with this video PCI capture card???   Twinhan DTV DVB-T (D+A)
[10:55] <gonnaeatthat> hey guys can i use kde apps if running gnome ubuntu?
[10:55] <mazza558> decon: these problems seem typical of a dodgy upgrade.... lots of people on the forums have reported problems
[10:55] <bob535> just checking now
[10:55] <mjunx> gonnaeatthat, yeah
[10:55] <bruenig> gonnaeatthat, yes
[10:55] <gr2> junx: allright it gave me something
[10:55] <madc> My wireless shows a dhcp address issued, and released when I kill dhclient, but ifconfig never shows an address
[10:55] <Kazol> Flannel: I always like having the latest and greatest software, I just don't want to spend 2 hours every upgrade changing settings or installing aps.
[10:55] <deCon> mazza558, anyway to fix things? ...brb going to restart x
[10:55] <gonnaeatthat> mjunx: thanks
[10:55] <compengi> ompaul, yeah i am thanks a lot, hope i didn't waste your time :)
[10:55] <ussjoin> Draconicus: And notice that that model is what everyone else (OSX and Vista) copied in the newest releases, years after Ubuntu made it the policy.
[10:55] <Draconicus> ussjoin: I'll admit it's handy, but I never struggled on systems without it. :P   It has its pros and its cons. Big dent in security when you make one password do everything, though.
[10:55] <gonnaeatthat> bruenig: thanks
[10:56] <bartzitz> mjunx: by the way, any experience with virtualbox? ppl say it's faster than wmvare, and vmware is faster for me than qemu+kqemu now
[10:56] <mjunx> bartzitz, nope, just played around with vmware and qemu
[10:56] <bartzitz> mjunx: what do you like most?
[10:56] <mjunx> bartzitz, but if I had the hardware support, I would have tried kvm also
[10:56] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Meh.. maybe. I don't think that's the insecure part of Ubuntu, really. And I think with a little-used Root password you have much more postit likelihood.
[10:56] <mjunx> bartzitz, I actually don't like either because neither can give you relatively fast virtualisation
[10:56] <bartzitz> mjunx: i have Celeron M, no kvm stuff
[10:57] <mazza558> decon: it *might* be better to do a clean reinstall of feisty
[10:57] <deCon> mazza558, this time nautilus was fine and my desktop background is still here
[10:57] <gr2> junx: i do not have a wpasupplicant.conf file
[10:57] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok thanks, great support
[10:57] <raf256> how to confiure my locale?
[10:57] <deCon> mazza558, and then reinstall all applications and such?
[10:57] <mazza558> decon: yes
[10:57] <raf256> that is tz locale, money locale, date format locale etc
[10:57] <lawlcostr> ubuntu good
[10:57] <xjkx> how can we donate to the cds distribution?
[10:57] <deCon> mazza558, ack
[10:57] <lawlcostr> lawlcostr approve
[10:57] <eck> Draconicus: from a security perspective, it certainly helps that I don't know the name of any accounts on your computer that can authenticate as root, because root logins are completely disabled, which is the only login you generally know exists
[10:57] <mazza558> decon: clean installs generally work much better
[10:58] <xjkx> cant see donate in site
[10:58] <deCon> mazza558, thought so, ill have to get a blank cd then :(...unless you know how to do a knoppix install?
[10:58] <mazza558> decon: but only do that if you really can't find another solution to your problems
[10:58] <deCon> mazza558, right
[10:58] <kuba> hi.can anyone tell my why command './file.sh 'doesn't work but command '. file.sh ' works correct ??
[10:58] <mazza558> decon: i'd recommend asking on the forums or on here
[10:58] <xjkx> there should have one donate
[10:58] <gr2> junx: trying to see if i can find anything on the wifi guide on ubuntu, ill be here :-)
[10:58] <lawlcostr> ubuntu to me is like a special friend
[10:58] <xjkx> so ppl would donate
[10:59] <lawlcostr> it doesnt play well with others(namely any hardware) but I still love it none the less
[10:59] <Draconicus> eck: Fair enough. Fair enough.
[10:59] <bruenig> xjkx, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/donations
[10:59] <karimfayez> Egypt LOCO team is announcing their official start today...join us at #ubuntu-eg
[10:59] <Draconicus> eck: Actually, that's a good point.
[10:59] <bruenig> kuba, what?
[10:59] <deCon> mazza558, crap, i just lost four windows or so of pages i hadn't bookmarked that "restore session" didn't fix.....:(
[11:00] <Draconicus> It's not so much disabled as it is scrambled, but still, that's a good method... You have a valid point.
[11:00] <mjunx> gr2, try out netapplet (program)
[11:00] <lawlcostr> deC0n UN-IN-STALL UR INTERNETZ!
[11:00] <lawlcostr> quick!
[11:00] <AlexC_> good morning,
[11:00] <mazza558> decon: ouch. anyway, i've gotta go now. good luck in finding a solution :)
[11:00] <kuba> bruenig : command ' . file.sh ' works correct but command ' ./file.sh ' does not
[11:00] <xjkx> bruenig, We use donated funds to pay developer contracts for feature goals in the next release, or contribute them to the bounty fund. ))) and who pays the cds?
[11:00] <gr2> junx: ok installing
[11:00] <deCon> mazza558, thanks! btw...it works...it must be amaroK
[11:00] <deCon> kane77, you around?
[11:00] <bruenig> xjkx, it is all the same pool I am sure
[11:00] <AlexC_> I've just installed Apache, but messed it up so I did "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2" ... how ever, when I do "sudo apt-get install apache2" it is _not_ installing the apache2.conf file
[11:01] <AlexC_> how can I force apt-get to reinstall all files, ( --reinstall does not work)
[11:01] <bob535> mkay, the only other way I can do this is to somehow get edgy to connect to my wifi router. I was trying to get FF in order to avoid that exact problem.
[11:01] <chazco> anyone?
[11:01] <ammiel> !chroot
[11:01] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:01] <gr2> junx: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:01] <Flannel> AlexC_: are you on Feisty? or Dapper/Edgy?
[11:02] <AlexC_> Flannel: Feisty
[11:02] <Flannel> AlexC_: you need to remove (with purge, then reinstlal) apache2.2-common
[11:02] <gr2> junx: when i try running the netapplet command
[11:02] <mjunx> gr2, I don't know what to say really, I don't use wep, and that seems to be the problem
[11:03] <Kazol> Flannel: So is 'gksu "update-manager -c"' a good way to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[11:03] <gr2> junx: what does netapplet do? because it wont even start
[11:03] <AlexC_> Flannel: you sir, are a legend -D
[11:03] <Flannel> Kazol: Make sure you're up to date first, but yeah.
[11:03] <gr2> junx: but i agree, it has to be the WEP. since it works on non protected nets
[11:04] <Kazol> Flannel: I believe I am. I installed all updates a few days ago when prompted.
[11:04] <mjunx> gr2, netapplet is some applet thing for gnome that should let you configure wireless
[11:04] <deCon> Flannel, do you have any idea why my amaroK and other applications using sound/video may be conflicting, or how i can stop it?
[11:04] <Flannel> Kazol: Then you're probably good to go.
[11:04] <mjunx> gr2, here's some CLI mumbo-jumbo that might get it working, though
[11:04] <raf256> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=35373 how to change all that to be pl_PL
[11:04] <Kazol> Flannel: I'll try it! Thanks!
[11:04] <AlexC_> Flannel: thank you,
[11:05] <mjunx> gr2, sudo iwconfig eth1 key XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
[11:05] <mjunx> gr2, just put in your wep key as hex
[11:05] <deCon> i'm having some amaroK issues relating to it stealing sound, and/or xine...can anyone help me put a finger on it?
[11:05] <gr2> junx: ok one sec
[11:06] <yim> hello
[11:06] <isidoro> hi
[11:06] <yim> can u help me
[11:06] <gr2> junx: the pass is 1234567890 how do I write it?
[11:06] <jjido> mjunx: that is the same as putting the hex value in wireless config
[11:06] <isidoro> any of you has a TV PCI card working on feisty??
[11:06] <isidoro> I am getting crazy with my Twinhan DTV-DVB-T (D+A)
[11:06] <mjunx> gr2, 1234-5678-90
[11:06] <yim> can someone help me
[11:06] <gr2> junx: right :-P
[11:06] <jjido> gr2: are you sure that is the hewx
[11:07] <Nixx> well ive stuffedup beryl
[11:07] <mjunx> jjido, but he said it won't work
[11:07] <Nixx> i changed it to force xgl or something and now it freezes
[11:07] <mjunx> so instead, we see if he has some weird bug or something
[11:07] <jjido> mjunx: maybe he entered ascii
[11:07] <yim> what is caldrea dr dos
[11:07] <Nixx> i cannot find how to force it back to automatic (i tried removing the settings in the beryl folder)
[11:08] <gr2> jjido: yes, on windows I use that as the password
[11:08] <yim> hello
[11:08] <gr2> junx:  the command went through without errors.
[11:08] <yim> this will get ur attion
[11:08] <gr2> junx: wireless wont go
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <mjunx> !flood >yim
[11:09] <lio0r> hello
[11:09] <peres_> tell me please, what is http://www.lyricwiki.org different from lyriki ?
[11:09] <jjido> gr2: find the HEX key in Windows, then you should be fie
[11:09] <mjunx> peres_, it's a different site, that's how
[11:10] <gr2> jjido: what do you mean? when im in windows, in the network manager the PW I put in is 1234567890, what should I find?
[11:10] <AlexC_> peres_: try to keep all non-ubuntu support questions to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:10] <gr2> junx: your command went through btw
[11:10] <yim> help
[11:10] <yim> please
[11:10] <mazza558> does anyone know how to fix this problem? on gaim, in the typing box the text is black, but when I press enter, it turns grey...?
[11:10] <yim> dr dos
[11:10] <AlexC_> yim: stop spamming, we can not help if you ask no question!
[11:10] <mjunx> gr2, still doesn't do anything?
[11:10] <yim> i have no clue what it is
[11:10] <peres_> alexc_ yeah, well sorry, i thought i was on lyriki irc..
[11:10] <mjunx> dr dos is a version of dos
[11:10] <mjunx> old-skewl
[11:10] <mjunx> just use freedos if you want something good
[11:11] <gr2> junx; appears not,. but jjido says the PW may not be 1234567890
[11:11] <peres_> mjunx, different site well thanks for the answer...
[11:11] <gr2> junx: but that is what i use on windows
[11:11] <yim> i dont want any dos
[11:11] <yim> i wnat linux
[11:11] <AlexC_> yim: install Ubuntu then?
[11:11] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel?
[11:11] <mjunx> gr2, try this then: "s:1234567890"
[11:11] <yim> i cant i get dr dos
[11:11] <AlexC_> ok
[11:11] <mazza558> does anyone know how to fix this problem? on gaim, in the typing box the text is black, but when I press enter, it turns grey...?
[11:11] <yim> or caldrea dr dos
[11:11] <jjido> gr2: sorry I don't know Win wireless.  There are 2 passwords: the plain text one and the hex version
[11:11] <kane77> deCon, now I am...
[11:11] <yim> i want ubuntu
[11:12] <preaction> !repeat | mazza558
[11:12] <strabes> mazza558: that's not a bug, it's a feature of beta6
[11:12] <ubotu> mazza558: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:12] <AlexC_> yim: download Ubuntu off the offocial site, and you will have Ubuntu
[11:12] <mjunx> yim, so download the ubuntu cd image and burn it or get a cd from shipit.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <yim> i did
[11:12] <mwe> !install | yim
[11:12] <yim> i put it on the cd
[11:12] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel?
[11:12] <yim> and then booted
[11:12] <AlexC_> yim: from the _official_ site
[11:12] <strabes> mazza558: it helps you easily differentiate between what you say and what your friend says
[11:12] <yim> then i got dr dos
[11:12] <gr2> junx: sudo iwconfig eth1 key s:1234567890
[11:12] <yim> yes from the offical site
[11:12] <mjunx> yim, maybe you've got dr dos on your computer...
[11:12] <ubotu> yim: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:12] <Lbawinowns> Can I get help with GIMP basics here?
[11:12] <gr2> junx like that?
[11:12] <mjunx> gr2, yes
[11:12] <deCon> kane77, nevermind, i seem to have found an issue that may fix my audio issues, however, amaroK still doesn't work properly, and printing is an issue, but i can take care of that later. Thanks for the response!
[11:12] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel? or how do i get somthing like windows explorer in my panel?
[11:13] <thelostpatrol> does ubuntu feisty come with a dock?
[11:13] <yim> how do i get it off
[11:13] <yim> of my computer
[11:13] <mjunx> thelostpatrol, install kxdocker
[11:13] <mazza558> strabes: are you sure? It happened suddenly after a few days of reinstalling feisty
[11:13] <thelostpatrol> thanks
[11:13] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: this is Ubuntu support, not Gimp support
[11:13] <kane77> deCon, :) I was away.. sry
[11:13] <arrow_> I'm looking for a notebook to put Ubuntu on, and I keep seeing (ThinkPad A31 - P4 M 1.6GHz *512KB*, 256MB, 20GB,) what does the 512KB stand for?
[11:13] <Lbawinowns> AlexC_ : can you redirect me?
[11:13] <strabes> mazza558: pretty sure; it's that way for me and i don't even use gnome (ubuntu)
[11:13] <mjunx> arrow_, L2 cache probably
[11:13] <mwe> #gimp?
[11:13] <mazza558> strabes: and there hasn't been a gaim update since i reinstalled.
[11:13] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: #gimp or Google->Gimp tutorials
[11:13] <jjido> yim: you want to uninstall grub?
[11:13] <yim> what is that
[11:13] <Lbawinowns> Thanks :)
[11:14] <arrow_> mjunnx, will that be in wikipedia?
[11:14] <yim> wher do i find it
[11:14] <mazza558> strabes: hmm. thanks anyway :)
[11:14] <mjunx> arrow_, most certainly
[11:14] <gr2> junx: nothing
[11:14] <strabes> mazza558: does it really bother you? there's probably an option somewhere in ~/.gaim or something
[11:14] <arrow_> mjunx thx
[11:14] <kane77> is there any indent utility for gedit?
[11:14] <gr2> junx: i think we need a better gui than net manager.
[11:14] <jjido> yim: the boot menu
[11:14] <ubuntu_> ola
[11:14] <mazza558> strabes: I'll get by. It's just slightly annoying.
[11:15] <mjunx> gr2, there are like 20 GUIs for network config, and they all suck because none do what I want, but that's just me ;p
[11:15] <yim> what would it be under
[11:15] <FurryNemesis> does the new network manager support WPA?
[11:15] <strabes> mazza558: i thought it was kinda annoying at first as well then i grew to appreciate it (sort of)
[11:15] <sacater> yes
[11:15] <Consty> FurryNemesis: yyes it does.
[11:15] <strabes> FurryNemesis: the one that comes with feisty? yes
[11:15] <Vaske_Car> how to install JAVA for Opera?
[11:15] <gr2> junx: lol. well as long as it works with WEP, :-)
[11:15] <FurryNemesis> I really need to upgrade....
[11:15] <strabes> gr2: lol, wep
[11:15] <jjido> strabes: Edgy's doesn't?
[11:16] <gr2> junx: because i cant ask the administrator to remove the pw protection
[11:16] <yim> how to uninstall dr dos
[11:16] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[11:16] <strabes> jjido: oh, i don't remember. I installed feisty as soon as they released betas because i had a lot of problems with edgy. I believe it did though.
[11:16] <mjunx> yim, reformat
[11:16] <yim> reformat what
[11:16] <thelostpatrol> is kxdocker the default dock in ubuntu?
[11:16] <mjunx> gr2, there are a bunch of KDE applets you might want to check, but they don't look good in GNOME (and vice-versa)
[11:16] <gr2> junx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19028/ thats what i get with iwconfig btw
[11:17] <mjunx> thelostpatrol, that's the best dock program I know of
[11:17] <idonthaveonesodo> how do you get mp3 support ?
[11:17] <mjunx> yim, your harddrive
[11:17] <thelostpatrol> mjunx, thank you
[11:17] <mjunx> idonthaveonesodo, try playing an mp3 and you should be prompted to install the codec
[11:17] <gr2> junx: even if they dont look well, do they work ? hehe
[11:17] <strabes> idonthaveonesodo: do you have feisty? install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:17] <yim> how do i format my hdd
[11:17] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[11:17] <bagualas> When I remove my secundary HDD, ubuntu gives all lots of errors, but its installed on primary. HelP???
[11:17] <tag> Is that save-as dialog ever going to get fixed?
[11:17] <strabes> jjido: system, preferences, sessions
[11:17] <mjunx> gr2, if iwconfig doesn't work, there's not much else to try besides wpasupplicant
[11:18] <mjunx> yim, gparted
[11:18] <superante> hi,,,
[11:18] <yim> i dont knwo what that means
[11:18] <idonthaveonesodo> mjunx: it says i might need to install the corresponding plugins... but doesnt say which
[11:18] <superante> i have a problem with audio
[11:18] <lio0r> Possible assistance for the installation of Apache
[11:18] <idonthaveonesodo> strabes: i just installed hoary
[11:18] <jjido> strabes: wow, thanks! I swear I looked there before....
[11:18] <mjunx> yim, that's the program you can use
[11:18] <strabes> jjido: np
[11:18] <superante> i have an asus w5f
[11:18] <mjunx> idonthaveonesodo, then choose 'em all
[11:18] <strabes> idonthaveonesodo: hoary? wow that's old
[11:18] <Flannel> lio0r: !ask | lio0r
[11:19] <yim> ok i dont have winwos though
[11:19] <mjunx> !mp3 | idonthaveonesodo
[11:19] <ubotu> idonthaveonesodo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <hbaigu> yim: can you boot from the ubuntu cd?
[11:19] <gr2> junx: that thing i pasted means iwconfig doesnt work right?
[11:19] <mjunx> yim, gparted is a linux program
[11:19] <yim> no
[11:19] <superante> this is my chipset Realtek ALC660-VD
[11:19] <gints> chat.delfi.lv
[11:19] <Flannel> idonthaveonesodo: Hoary?  Reinstall something else.  Hoary isn't supported (and hasn't been for about six months).  Might I suggest Dapper?
[11:19] <gints> bled
[11:19] <superante> i listen only by phones
[11:19] <superante> any ideas?
[11:19] <hbaigu> yim: what it happen when you try?
[11:19] <mjunx> gr2, it means it isn't finding it apparently
[11:20] <idonthaveonesodo> nah , i just installed to download another iso... and while at it i would like to listen to some mp3
[11:20] <wepeel> Hi all. Can anyone suggest an ebook reader for ubuntu?
[11:20] <mjunx> gr2, try "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" and pastebin it
[11:20] <yim> it takes me to the fuckin cadrea dr dos
[11:20] <AlexC_> !language | yim
[11:20] <ubotu> yim: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:20] <yim> sorry
[11:20] <lio0r> Tried very structure but to no avail
[11:20] <yim> did u boot me
[11:21] <superante> someone has hda audio?
[11:21] <hbaigu> yim: is a recent computer?  or a old one?
[11:21] <gr2> junx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19029/
[11:21] <lio0r> i am speak ar
[11:21] <idonthaveonesodo> what version # is hoary ? can someone tell me
[11:21] <yim> very new
[11:21] <yim> like a year
[11:21] <mjunx> !ar | lio0r
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <mjunx> hmm, ar?
[11:21] <lio0r> arabic
[11:21] <mjunx> oh, are you sure that's the L10n abbreviation for it?
[11:22] <mjunx> oh, it is
[11:22] <Me2resh> lio0r: hi, i speak arabic too, what is your problem ?
[11:22] <hbaigu> yim: did you check the bios of the computer, and see if the boot from cd option is set?
[11:22] <lawlcostr> why has ubuntu's popularity blown up compared to other linux distros that have been around for years?
[11:22] <yim> yes
[11:22] <idonthaveonesodo> !hoary
[11:22] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[11:22] <arrow_> What do the different types of memory matter?
[11:22] <kitche> lawlcostr: it's not a niche distro
[11:22] <mjunx> lawlcostr, because we have money :P
[11:22] <Flannel> lawlcostr: #ubuntu-offtopic is the perfect place for that question
[11:22] <lio0r> me2resh
[11:22] <deCon> what is the best music player? performance wise..amaroK seems to be too buggy and i'm sick of it
[11:22] <arrow_> !WorksForMe
[11:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:22] <deCon> kane77, what audio player do you use?
[11:23] <Me2resh> lio0r: yes ?
[11:23] <lio0r> momke kas
[11:23] <gr2> junx: did you get the URL?
[11:23] <mjunx> deCon, lots of people live and die by XMMS
[11:23] <Meatbag> Anybody know how i would install ubuntu over a network to my laptop?
[11:23] <mjunx> gr2, yeah
[11:23] <kane77> deCon, mainly listen and amarok
[11:23] <deCon> mjunx, XMMS...hmm
[11:23] <mjunx> gr2, gimme a sec
[11:23] <webjames> deCon: try exaile
[11:23] <strabes> deCon: amarok? buggy? i've never had a problem with it. everything works flawlessly for me
[11:23] <Me2resh> lio0r: eh ??
[11:23] <blockcipher> exaile works nicely for me.
[11:23] <jovan> after alot of years I grew tired of windows... and it only took me 2 days to grow tired of linux... I'm gonna stop using computers at all
[11:23] <deCon> kane77, do you have any issues with amarok like it shwoing the splash then never showing up?
[11:23] <lio0r> h
[11:23] <kane77> deCon, no, not realy
[11:24] <mjunx> gr2, looks like there's two networks named "DB"...
[11:24] <lio0r> 
[11:24] <deCon> kane77, your in feisty? w/ beryl?
[11:24] <kane77> deCon, although I have feeling listen has some memory leak...
[11:24] <blockcipher> I still use amarok to use my ipod tho, seems to work nicely for me in that regard
[11:24] <mjunx> ohnoes, ltr and rtl mixed! and it works! go go konversation/kde
[11:24] <kitche> lio0r: this is an english only channel
[11:24] <lio0r> <Me2resh   
[11:24] <kane77> deCon, w/o beryl
[11:24] <J_P> people, I have a 4,5gb of files to sabe in CD (700mb). What is better form to divide that, record in CD. and when I will be need get all peaces and have agaim 4,5gb of the data ?
[11:24] <deCon> kane77, how about uninstall it and reinstall...would that help?
[11:24] <mjunx> go make #ubuntu-ar and update the bot :)
[11:24] <gr2> junx: yes thats the SSID of the net im trying to connect
[11:24] <yim> i need to know how to remove dr dos
[11:25] <kitche> !arabic | lio0r
[11:25] <ubotu> lio0r: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[11:25] <jovan> nn svensk hr inne?
[11:25] <mjunx> gr2, but there are two of them
[11:25] <gr2> junx: theres 2 hotspots near here, thats why you see 2 probably
[11:25] <mjunx> oh, sa? uh, k...
[11:25] <Braddf0rd> Hey, does anyone know how I might get an MP3 to play.... at all in Ubuntu
[11:25] <mjunx> should be #ubuntu-ar instead...
[11:25] <lio0r> thanks ubotu
[11:25] <kitche> mjunx: saudia ariba probably
[11:25] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, try opening it in totem
[11:25] <variant> jovan: #ubuntu.se
[11:25] <preaction> yim: you do not need to remove drdos, you need to install ubuntu over it (on the same partition)
[11:25] <kane77> deCon, might help it if you remove also config files...
[11:25] <mjunx> gr2, do they both have the same password?
[11:25] <gr2> junx: yes
[11:26] <deCon> kane77, could you point me to the command to uninstall amaroK and configs for it?
[11:26] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[11:26] <mjunx> deCon, sudo aptitude --purge remove amarok
[11:26] <gr2> junx: theyre basically the same network, but you can connect through 2 hots
[11:26] <mjunx> er,
[11:26] <mjunx> deCon, sudo aptitude --purge remove amarok amarok-xine
[11:26] <ashlon> Heres a question, how do I change my mic volume so I sound louder in skype?
[11:26] <jovan> variant: I could swear that I hade been put under some kind of /mute command
[11:26] <preaction> thelostpatrol: right-click an empty area on your panel and click "Add to Panel..."
[11:26] <Consty> when using beryl, what's the best video output to use for mplayer?  The only one that works right is x11, but it doesn't stretch the video at all
[11:26] <deCon> mjunx, thanks...and for reinstall?
[11:26] <hbaigu> yim: whay did you say dr dos, what you see the computer?
[11:26] <mjunx> Consty, gl, gl2, xv, xvidix, depends on your video card
[11:27] <kane77> deCon, aptitude --purge remove amarok
[11:27] <hbaigu> yim: what you see in the computer?
[11:27] <deCon> kk done purging...now for the reinstall?
[11:27] <yim> thats what come up on my pc when i try to boot from the cd
[11:27] <mjunx> gr2, do you remember any other details about the network? like is it open or restricted? etc.
[11:27] <yim> caldrea dr dos
[11:27] <Consty> mjunx: I have a Intel GMA950, gl works without beryl/compiz but flickers with it on.. gl2 doesn't work.  xv works but doesn't show video when I drag cube around, only x11 works.
[11:27] <mjunx> you sure it's not caldera?
[11:27] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, I don't see totem, does it not come w/ Ubuntu?
[11:27] <yim> yea that
[11:27] <Consty> mjunx: haven't tried xvidix
[11:27] <yim> caldrea dr dos
[11:28] <deCon> mjunx, for install...making sure it has any plugins it needs? sudo aptitude install amarok?
[11:28] <yim> that is what it says
[11:28] <mjunx> Consty, xv works best with intel in my experience
[11:28] <mjunx> deCon, amarok-xine
[11:28] <bagualas> When I remove my secundary HDD, ubuntu gives all lots of errors, but its installed on primary. Help???
[11:28] <blockcipher> I had a quick question.  When I connect to my wifi at home, keymanager wants me to enter a password in each time .. anyway to auto enter that, or get rid of it altogether?
[11:28] <Consty> mjunx: but it's overlay and doesn't show when you drag to the next cube and stuff.. you see blue
[11:28] <evilxhwnd> i have the same question as blockcipher
[11:28] <gr2> junx: shared key network
[11:28] <HeadDown> hello, when i try to boot ubuntu cd I get a blank screen. I'm using geforce 8800. Is there an issues about this ?
[11:28] <mjunx> Consty, I know, that's because xv renders straight to X rather than a slower method like x11
[11:28] <deCon> mjunx, i had some xine errors i think after i installed feisty...should doing this have fixed those issues?
[11:29] <mjunx> deCon, possibly
[11:29] <W_o_r[l] d> !faq ntfs
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about faq ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <W_o_r[l] d> !ntfs
[11:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:29] <evilxhwnd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316927 doesn't work
[11:29] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel? or how do i get somthing like windows explorer in my panel?
[11:29] <piNNoy> !ntfs-3g
[11:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:29] <mjunx> deCon, try checking the #mplayer channel, they might be able to give some advice (I'm there also hehe)
[11:29] <deCon> mjunx, when is it necessary to restart x?
[11:29] <mjunx> mjunx, after an upgrade?
[11:29] <mjunx> er, crap, what
[11:29] <hbaigu> yim: you must boot from the cd
[11:29] <mjunx> deCon, yeah, that
[11:30] <gr2> junx: key 1, 64 bit, hexadecimal
[11:30] <yim> i am
[11:30] <yim> how could i not be
[11:30] <yim> its in the drive
[11:30] <hbaigu> yim: but is the bios option set to boot from it?
[11:30] <LucheiN> i guys
[11:30] <deCon> mjunx, grrr...amarok shows its splash and then does nothing
[11:30] <LucheiN> hi
[11:31] <LucheiN> can someone help me?
[11:31] <mjunx> deCon, try launching it from the command line to see if you get any errors
[11:31] <strabes> deCon: run it from terminal. paste the output
[11:31] <mjunx> !ask | LucheiN
[11:31] <ubotu> LucheiN: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:31] <yim> i dont see any boot from cd
[11:31] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, I don't have totem. I con't find it in Synaptic Package Manager either
[11:31] <HeadDown> hello, when i try to boot ubuntu cd I get a blank screen. I'm using geforce 8800. Is there known issues about this ?
[11:31] <yim> i see boot from lite on cd or somthing
[11:31] <W_o_r[l] d> !fuse
[11:31] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, you're on ubuntu, right?
[11:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:31] <LucheiN> i wanna add a server on the x-chat gnome programm how i can do?
[11:31] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, Yes
[11:31] <mjunx> ntfs-3g is actually stable...
[11:31] <deCon> oh ya...errors alright, wheres a good pastebin place?
[11:31] <Atelophobia> Hey mates.... installed ubuntu today the first time... awesome :D
[11:31] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, it might be called movie player or something like that
[11:32] <mjunx> deCon, pastebin.ca
[11:32] <gr2> junx: :-/
[11:32] <blockcipher> Atelophobia, welcome :D
[11:32] <mjunx> gr2, try this, eh
[11:32] <Atelophobia> thankx blockcipher
[11:32] <strabes> yim: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/
[11:32] <deCon> http://pastebin.ca/469728
[11:32] <yim> what is that
[11:32] <mjunx> gr2, sudo iwconfig eth1 key [1]  s:keytexthere
[11:32] <LucheiN> no one?
[11:32] <mjunx> gr2, sudo iwconfig eth1 key on
[11:33] <Atelophobia> My first was a succesfull attempt with debian but the wikipages and the posting I ve read from kind users made me install it :D
[11:33] <mjunx> LucheiN, is there an #xchat channel here?
[11:33] <LucheiN> i've this problem
[11:33] <mjunx> debian and ubuntu are both awesome in their own respects
[11:34] <gr2> junx: ok, did what you told me
[11:34] <mactimes> Hello, Human Beings! =)
[11:34] <gr2> junx: the command went trhough
[11:34] <strabes> mjunx: because they're basically the same thing lol
[11:34] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, It tells me that I need a codec and asks if I want to search for it, I say yes and it comes back with an Error.
[11:34] <Atelophobia> sure... nothing against debian but pro ubuntu... liked the behaviour in the forums I saw
[11:34] <zbrown> mactimes: human? hardly ;)
[11:34] <Atelophobia> and the wiki is sooo great for a beginner like me
[11:34] <mactimes> zbrown, =)
[11:34] <gr2> junx : lets see if it connects
[11:34] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder plugin which is not installed.
[11:34] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, what program do you use to normally listen to music?
[11:34] <mjunx> hot damn, gimme a sec to read these things
[11:35] <GrueTamer> Atelophobia: its always nice having a helpful wiki, isnt it? :)
[11:35] <mactimes> Hey, I just installed bind9 and configured it as a DNS server for a new domain.
[11:35] <Braddf0rd> Nothing so far... I just installed Feisty last night
[11:35] <Atelophobia> For sure GrueTamer! :)
[11:35] <hbaigu> !ask > LucheiN
[11:35] <mjunx> !mp3 | Braddf0rd
[11:35] <ubotu> Braddf0rd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:35] <Atelophobia> Now I can start again "from the scratch" (not talking about installing ;) )
[11:35] <mjunx> try what he said^
[11:35] <gr2> junx: no luck :-)
[11:36] <mjunx> gr2, this is not cool :(
[11:36] <mactimes> But when I go to the entity responsible for registering domains and I provide them the IP for my DNS server they say the reponse is "Query Refused"
[11:36] <synjet>  luchein: edit-->prefs-->add server
[11:36] <gr2> junx: one sec let me recheck
[11:36] <mactimes> Could anyone help with that?
[11:36] <Ernz> Hi: I am trying to get TVOut to work on my new graphics card but when I run nvtv I keep getting the error:
[11:36] <Ernz> Fatal: Either you are not root, or no NVidia card found.
[11:36] <Ernz> Any ideas?
[11:36] <mjunx> gr2, try rebooting with an ubuntu cd to see if it works while you're in that
[11:36] <deCon> mjunx, http://pastebin.ca/469728 ?
[11:36] <mjunx> Ernz, do you have a /dev/nvidia block device or something?
[11:37] <gr2> junx: one sec need to retry something
[11:37] <deCon> strabes, http://pastebin.ca/469728
[11:37] <g0ow> glxinfo | grep vendor
[11:37] <g0ow> server glx vendor string: SGI
[11:37] <g0ow> client glx vendor string: ATI
[11:37] <g0ow> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[11:37] <Ernz> mjunx: How do I figure that out?
[11:37] <NickGarvey> I have a python file, with one space per indentation level, but want to convert it to 4 spaces per level, what sed command would I use for this?
[11:37] <g0ow> anyone know how to change the ATI to SGI?
[11:37] <Atelophobia> How difficult is it to install Beryl? I failed under debian
[11:37] <gr2> junx: whats the command to restart network?
[11:37] <mjunx> ernz, dunno, I don't have a tv nvidia card :P
[11:37] <piNNoy> !kydome
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <asasq> please go to http://d.mcdir.ru?z=74555 and PLEASE REGISTRING!!!!!
[11:37] <piNNoy> !skydome
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <mjunx> gr2, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:37] <afief> Atelophobia, if you have nvidia it's quite easy
[11:38] <karimfayez> hey guys...i have made an opengpg key and i cant send it...
[11:38] <mjunx> !spam | asasq
[11:38] <ubotu> asasq: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[11:38] <Drk_guy> Hi guys!
[11:38] <asasq> i don't good speack english ...
[11:38] <strabes> deCon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/42553
[11:38] <Ernz> mjunx: There is a nvidia0 in /dev/
[11:38] <mjunx> karimfayez, send it where?
[11:38] <strabes> deCon: if that doesn't fix it, let me konw
[11:38] <Drk_guy> I need a way to delete tracks from firefox and recently used docs
[11:38] <strabes> know*
[11:38] <mjunx> asasq, which language do you speak best?
[11:38] <mjunx> Ernz, then do "ls -l /dev/nvidia0"
[11:38] <Atelophobia> Afief, I tried it at the weekend with Nvidia and Debain on another computer... failed
[11:38] <deCon> strabes, thanks
[11:38] <Drk_guy> I need a way to delete tracks from firefox and recently used docs
[11:38] <asasq> HELP ME!
[11:39] <TIRC_8983> !list
[11:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:39] <Drk_guy> I need a way to delete tracks from firefox and recently used docs
[11:39] <Atelophobia> I have read that there are even more problems with ATI and my computer here has ATI :(
[11:39] <gr2> junx: gave me some errors, its still restarting
[11:39] <mjunx> asasq, if you don't speak english well, we might have people who speak your language (what is it?)
[11:39] <karimfayez> to a key server
[11:39] <synjet> drk_guy: FF: ctrl-shift-del and for recently used docs, places-->recent docs-->clear
[11:39] <mjunx> gr2, pb it
[11:39] <synjet> !ru>asasq
[11:39] <Ernz> mjunx: crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 0 2007-05-03 22:20 /dev/nvidia0
[11:39] <afief> Atelophobia, well, I tried it two weeks ago with ubuntu and nvidia(using AIGLX not the beta drivers) and was done in under 30 minutes
[11:39] <mjunx> karimfayez, try specifying a keyserver like pgp.mit.edu
[11:39] <simonspain> alguien save cmo funcioina jodido GAIN comunicator ??? joder !!!!
[11:39] <Atelophobia> I guess you re more experienced afief ;)
[11:40] <Drk_guy> Thank you!!!
[11:40] <TIRC_8983> !addon
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <afief> Atelophobia, not really, I just copied and pasted what the wiki said
[11:40] <mjunx> Ernz, then you shouldn't have to be root, so that's an odd error
[11:40] <mjunx> !es | simonspain
[11:40] <gr2> junx: one sec
[11:40] <ubotu> simonspain: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:40] <Ernz> mjunx: Is the card too new? I just bought the PC and nvtv works fine with my way old Ti 4200
[11:40] <Atelophobia> ah, ok..... but manpages, tutorials and so on were often disappointing to me concerning linux... but looks like those for ubuntu suit better for me
[11:41] <mjunx> Ernz, it's possible; try upgrading your nvidia drivers
[11:41] <Ernz> mjunx: Already newest
[11:41] <mjunx> ernz, 9755?
[11:41] <HeadDown> I can't boot ubuntu fiesty cd, after the message "kernel not dead" I get a black screen and nothing happens. Could please someone help?
[11:41] <Ernz> Mjunx...9631
[11:41] <kenv> Is there a PDF application someone suggests for UBUNTU that allows you to create and insert on previously created PDF files?
[11:42] <gr2> junx:  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[11:42] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid with pid 11344
[11:42] <gr2> killed old client process, removed PID file
[11:42] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:42] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:42] <mjunx> Ernz, 1.0-9755 is the latest version last I checked :)
[11:42] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:42] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:42] <gr2> Listening on LPF/eth1/00:13:ce:37:f5:da
[11:42] <Meatbag> Anybody know how to install ubuntu remotely from another computer in the same network?
[11:42] <TIRC_8983> !addon
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <gr2> Sending on   LPF/eth1/00:13:ce:37:f5:da
[11:42] <afief> kenv: create: writer, insert, no idea
[11:42] <gr2> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[11:42] <gr2> eth2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <mjunx> gr2, ok, get the idea
[11:42] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth2.pid with pid 134993416
[11:42] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:42] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:42] <mjunx> use pastebin next time
[11:42] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:42] <neverblue> trying to install apache2/php5 on my box, when I surf to a .php in my /var/www dir, FF attempts to just download the file, what can I do to fix that?
[11:42] <synjet> !pastebin>gr2
[11:42] <Ernz> mjunx: How would I upgrade these drivers without killing my Ubuntu install?
[11:42] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:42] <gr2> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> eth2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> eth2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> Failed to bring up eth2.
[11:42] <gr2> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <mjunx> Ernz, apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx
[11:42] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.ath0.pid with pid 134993416
[11:42] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:42] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:42] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:42] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:42] <mjunx> then download the driver from nvidia.com
[11:42] <gr2> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:43] <gr2> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[11:43] <gr2> Failed to bring up ath0.
[11:43] <gr2> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:43] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.wlan0.pid with pid 134993416
[11:43] <Flannel> gr2: please don't paste here.
[11:43] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:43] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:43] <Flannel> !ops
[11:43] <mjunx> no stopping him now lol
[11:43] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:43] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[11:43] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:43] <gr2> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[11:43] <karimfayez> do u know other gpg servers??
[11:43] <miguel> hola
[11:43] <Pancakes> Another long and boring day awaits me;(
[11:43] <gr2> sorry guys
[11:43] <taigeR> How to get ActiveX to work in Firefox?
[11:43] <gr2> junx: i have to log off
[11:44] <Ernz> mjunx: Will beryl and all that other stuff I spent so long gettign to work still work?
[11:44] <mjunx> hkp://subkeys.pgp.net
[11:44] <gr2> junx: ill be here tomorrow. thanks for the help
[11:44] <synjet> !es > miguel
[11:44] <mjunx> gr2, ok
[11:44] <ompaul> !pastebin |  gr2
[11:44] <ubotu> gr2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:44] <mjunx> ernz, should, yes
[11:44] <taigeR> Anyone know how to get ActiveX to work in Firefox?
[11:44] <Ernz> mjunx: Tasty - i'll give it a shot
[11:44] <mjunx> ernz, but it's a pain to maintain sometimes since you gotta reinstall it every time the kernel upgrades
[11:45] <Ernz> mjunx...How often is that?
[11:45] <miguel> como puedo hacer para entrar al chat en espaol
[11:45] <mjunx> taigeR, install IE in WINE
[11:45] <kitche> taigeR: there's a plugin for windows but not sure if there is one for linux for activeX
[11:45] <mjunx> !es > miguel
[11:45] <miguel> sip
[11:45] <mjunx> I don't know what puedo means :/
[11:45] <taigeR> mjunx, IE is free for Wine?
[11:45] <hbaigu> miguel: /join
[11:45] <miguel> bueno soy nuevo en esto
[11:45] <mjunx> taigeR, check out ies4linux
[11:46] <mjunx> so, yeah, free as in beer
[11:46] <Drk_guy> miguel, escribe /join #Ubuntu-es
[11:46] <Ernz> mjunx: You are smokin hot - I hope you are getting paid for this.
[11:46] <TIRC_8983> !list
[11:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:47] <hbaigu> mjunx: puedo = can i
[11:47] <Cerda> how can i disable Avahi???
[11:47] <mjunx> oh
[11:47] <crimsun> Cerda: change AVAHI_DAEMON_START in /etc/default/avahi-daemon
[11:47] <deCon> strabes, should i restart x, or the whole computer?
[11:47] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work
[11:47] <crimsun> Cerda: the file is commented; it should be self-explanatory.
[11:48] <strabes> deCon: just x
[11:48] <mjunx> ernz, I'd love to get paid heh, but I don't
[11:48] <strabes> ctrl alt backspace
[11:48] <deCon> strabes, brb *crosses fingers*
[11:48] <strabes> deCon: goodluck
[11:48] <Ernz> mjunx: Then please accept a hearty, heterosexual slap on the back for your hard work.
[11:48] <mjunx> ernz, alrighty! :)
[11:49] <mjunx> it's how I contribute back for getting all this free stuff
[11:49] <Ernz> mjunx: RESTART!
[11:49] <Django84> hi
[11:49] <AlexC_> hi
[11:49] <mjunx> ernz, restart X, that's all
[11:49] <blockcipher> I had a quick question.  When I connect to my wifi at home, keymanager wants me to enter a password in each time .. anyway to auto enter that, or get rid of it altogether?
[11:49] <Django84> can anyone help me i have a GRUB problem!
[11:49] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on 7.04
[11:50] <bartzitz> mjunx: it's me again, installed virtualbox, its damn fast!
[11:50] <GrueTamer> Django84: whats your problem?
[11:50] <synjet> django84: could you describe in detail?
[11:50] <yim> how do i remove caldera dr dos
[11:50] <miguel> no me aclaro donde entro al citio en espaol
[11:50] <miguel> al chat
[11:50] <mjunx> bartzitz, that's cool to know, is it open source?
[11:51] <AlexC_> !es | miguel
[11:51] <miguel> alguien si es tan hable en esplicar
[11:51] <ubotu> miguel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:51] <cappy> Question: To run Skype 1.4 alpha I need sigc++ 2.0 for i386 installed, when I install it, my system makes me run apt-get -f install which reinstalls sigc++ 2.0 amd64 but then the i386 breaks. If I try to remove the AMD64 version it will also remove these packages: aptitude libsigc++-2.0-0c2a tasksel tasksel-data ubuntu-minimal. Any suggestions?
[11:51] <Ernz> mjunx: 9631 is the new one yea?
[11:51] <hbaigu> escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[11:51] <bartzitz> mjunx: yes, GPL
[11:51] <Django84> hi, i installed XP and GRUB died
[11:51] <erUSUL> miguel: haz /j #ubuntu-es en tu cliente irc
[11:51] <miguel> en donde esta el canal soy nuevo en usar linux
[11:51] <Django84> I download Super GRUb Disk
[11:51] <mjunx> ernz, 9755 is, go to nvidia.com
[11:51] <Django84> and i could fix it
[11:51] <kitche> !grub | Django84
[11:51] <ubotu> Django84: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:51] <nn> after upgrading to fiesty,  my libc headers went bye bye :(
[11:51] <GrueTamer> Django84: xp probably overwrote the mbr where grub was
[11:51] <Ernz> mjunx: Oh - OK
[11:51] <lieter> blockcipher, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281
[11:51] <Django84> but i get the error 17
[11:51] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on 7.04
[11:51] <GrueTamer> yup
[11:52] <GrueTamer> Django84: are you in ubuntu right now?
[11:52] <Django84> and then i used a Live cd Slax
[11:52] <Django84> and edited menu.lst
[11:52] <bartzitz> mjunx: there's a deb on the site, the only thing that annoys me is qt3 dep, one lib
[11:52] <GrueTamer> did you install ubuntu/grub, and then xp?
[11:52] <Django84> i tried moving the n of the partitions and it worked
[11:52] <bartzitz> mjunx: other than that, it's cool
[11:53] <mjunx> ok, I'll have to check that out
[11:53] <Django84> but when i boot a few times using both OS i get the same problem!
[11:53] <Django84> no, first XP and then Ubuntu
[11:53] <GrueTamer> Django84: goto http://pastebin.ca and paste your menu.lst there
[11:53] <GrueTamer> Django84: alright, thats good
[11:53] <Django84> but then i re-installed XP
[11:53] <GrueTamer> oh
[11:53] <GrueTamer> well, did xp overwrite grub then?
[11:53] <Django84> yes
[11:53] <GrueTamer> because it likes to overwrite the mbr
[11:53] <mjunx> xp definitely does
[11:53] <Django84> i fixed that
[11:54] <Django84> and i can see GRUB
[11:54] <GrueTamer> alright
[11:54] <CloFan> I'm having some problems with a fresh install of 6.06LTS x64.  It'll start loading everything fine, then X Server won't boot properly or something and it all dies at that point.  I've tried reconfiguring xserver, but to no avail.  Any suggestions?
[11:54] <GrueTamer> Django84: goto http://pastebin.ca and paste your menu.lst there
[11:54] <Django84> but something is making menu.lst get to a old menu.lst
[11:54] <mjunx> CloFan, what video card?
[11:54] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on feisty
[11:54] <CloFan> mjunx, integrated nVidia 6100
[11:55] <mjunx> CloFan, do you know if you're using the nv or nvidia driver?
[11:55] <GrueTamer> Django84: so you fixed your menu.lst, but something is making it go to an old menu.lst?
[11:55] <Ernz> mjunx: In return for your advise I shall give you some: 4 liters of homebrew is too much. And don't eat yellow snow.
[11:55] <mjunx> ok then ;p
[11:55] <CloFan> mjunx, nv, because nvidia wasn't on the list.  I don't have any OS installed either, so I'm not sure how to get the nvidia drivers on there
[11:55] <mjunx> I'll give you advice also: don't not know how spell and write proper grammar on reddit
[11:56] <chump> someone here use amsn and a webcam ? cannot seam to get mine working with amsn
[11:56] <mjunx> CloFan, you can install nvidia-glx I believe
[11:56] <UstasW> hello
[11:56] <kitche> CloFan: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx will install binary nvidia driver
[11:56] <GrueTamer> hi UstasW
[11:56] <ashlon> any StreamTuner fans out there?
[11:56] <strabes> mjunx: that's funny because you used a double negative in that statement.
[11:56] <strabes> mjunx: :)
[11:56] <mjunx> yeah, it's hard to talk on irc ;)
[11:56] <CloFan> is that via online or the CD?  I'm not sur eif my network connection is active, because I'm on a college network and am not activated with this mac address yet
[11:57] <yim> how do i remove caldera dr dos
[11:57] <mjunx> CloFan, should be on cd
[11:57] <UstasW> dunno
[11:57] <synjet> ashlon: yes
[11:57] <strabes> mjunx: yeah, but at least you know how to use "it's" correctly
[11:57] <yim> i keep getting it at boot
[11:57] <CloFan> awesome, let me try it mjunx
[11:57] <mjunx> yeah, that I do, but where did I use it?
[11:57] <kitche> yim: your cd burn is bad it's ont he cd so you can't get rid of it
[11:57] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on feisty is shows that it knows what card it is but when you look at the actual adaptor it shows nothing
[11:57] <mjunx> yim, do you have a digital camera?
[11:57] <yim> what do you mean
[11:57] <yim> yes
 Django84: so you fixed your menu.lst, but something is making it go to an old menu.lst? ----yes
[11:58] <ashlon> synjet, I just ripped a song, where does it save it?  cus when I ripped it it brought up terminal and showed that it was recording then do i hit ctrl c to stop recording?
[11:58] <mjunx> yim, take a picture of your monitor, upload it to waffleimages.com, and link here
[11:58] <Ernz> mjunx: Nvidia is whining about Xserver being active during install, and to stop it first. What do I do?
[11:58] <yim> are you serious
[11:58] <Django84> (Remote closed the connection)
 mjunx, nv, because nvidia wasn't on the list.  I don't have any OS installed either, so I'm not sure how to get the nvidia drivers on there
[11:58] <Django84> * ashlon has joined #ubuntu
 I'll give you advice also: don't not know how spell and write proper grammar on reddit
[11:58] <Django84> * lio0r has quit IRC (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))
 someone here use amsn and
[11:58] <Django84> (Remote closed the connection)
 mjunx, nv, because nvidia wasn't on the list.  I don't have any OS installed either, so I'm not sure how to get the nvidia drivers on there
[11:58] <Django84> * ashlon has joined #ubuntu
 I'll give you advice also: don't not know how spell and write proper grammar on reddit
[11:58] <Django84> * lio0r has quit IRC (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))
 someone here use amsn and
[11:58] <kitche> !paste
[11:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:58] <mjunx> whoa...
[11:59] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on feisty is shows that it knows what card it is but when you look at the actual adaptor it shows nothing
[11:59] <synjet> ashlon: so, you are using streamripper, right? by default, the dir where you invoke the command is where it saves the ripped song.. and you dont have to stop for every song, it automatically chops it into songs
[11:59] <uwe__> hi
[11:59] <mjunx> nlynn, run "sudo lshw", and put the output on pastebin.ca
[11:59] <blockcipher> lieter, thanks :)  i searched but i must have put in the wrong keywords
[11:59] <uwe__> kann ich hier infos bekommen ?
[12:00] <mjunx> !de | uwe__
[12:00] <ubotu> uwe__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:00] <mjunx> I hope I got that one right >_>
[12:00] <uwe__> thx
[12:00] <deCon> my xorg.conf failed and it restored an old crap version that doesn' recgonize my video card
[12:00] <ashlon> synjet, so the directory is where i luanched the program, for me that would be /
[12:00] <CloFan> kitche, looks like it's trying to get it from the internet, and I can't connect due to the network restrictions.  How can I tell it to get it from the CD?
[12:00] <Meatbag> Anyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu remotely?
[12:00] <mjunx> deCon, your old version of xorg.conf is still in /etc/X11/ though
[12:01] <deCon> mjunx, i restored the backup...but how do i find the last one,
[12:01] <mjunx> Meatbag, in what sense? like a mass-deployment sort of thing?