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sbalneavno12:19
sbalneavI don't know, I'm trying to find that out.12:19
yimthe cd boot caldera dr dos12:19
yimand its the size you said12:20
sbalneavSo, it actually comes up to a C:> prompt?12:20
sbalneavThe you didn't burn that ISO image to the cd.12:20
yimthe cd dose not boot ubuntu12:20
sbalneavCheck your burning software12:20
yimyea i did12:20
yimi used nero12:20
sbalneavyou're not burning that ISO properly.12:20
yimwhat shoul i do burn as a bootable cd12:20
yimor just burn image and then burn data12:21
sbalneavI don't know, I don't run windows, so I don't run any windows programs.  Check on the Ubuntu Wiki, they've got instructions on there.12:21
yimok12:21
yimis ubutu worth it12:22
yimis it good for video editing12:22
sbalneavThere's a video editor for Ubuntu12:22
sbalneavIt's called kino12:22
yimwhat eles dose it do12:22
highvoltagehey sbalneav12:23
highvoltagesbalneav: long time no see!12:23
sbalneavHey highvoltage12:23
sbalneavHey, I'm gonna want the bird video tomorrow!12:23
sbalneavyim: it comes with a web browser, an email client, a word processor, spreadsheet, photo manager, etc etc.12:24
yimo k thanks12:24
sbalneavWell, I'm getting tired.  Think I'm going to turn in.12:25
sbalneavSee you all tomorrow!!!!12:25
highvoltagesbalneav: I'm uploading that video.... tomottor then :)12:25
highvoltage*tomorrow12:25
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ajmitchhey highvoltage12:54
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yimmmmyhello01:42
yimmmmyi have a booting error i need help with01:42
yimmmmyit just boots windows01:43
yimmmmyis there someonethere01:44
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yimmmmycan some one help me with instilation01:49
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BBHossanybody else having problems installing edubuntu 7.04?02:56
BBHossAMD6402:56
BBHossmine is freezing on brltty-x1102:57
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prototipohay alguien que me pueda ayudar06:14
prototipotengo algunas preguntas06:14
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bimberi!es | edgardo06:19
bimberiedgardo: try #edubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es06:20
edgardonecesito saber como hacerlo para ver el computador de un cliente en el thin client manager06:20
edgardotengo todo instalado06:21
edgardofunciona bien06:21
edgardopuedo iniciar y terminar procesos06:22
edgardopero no puedo06:22
edgardover la pantalla del cliente06:22
ubotuedgardo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:26
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ubotooSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:26
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prototipohi08:28
prototipono speak english good08:28
prototiponeed help whit thin client manager08:28
prototipoplease08:29
prototipothank08:30
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Burgundaviahey Amaranth09:04
Amaranthhey09:04
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highvoltageogra: do we have a gobby server running?09:50
highvoltageogra: got it from sbalneav09:51
sbalneavI wonder if gobby.ubuntu.com is still running?09:51
sbalneavI can't raise elmo09:52
Burgundaviatry #canonical-sysadmin09:52
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mattfletcherI'm confused about this chroot business. If I install a package while I'm sat at the server, does that mean it will automatically be available to any thin clients on my network, or must I do it from within the chroot? And if so, how?10:13
Burgundaviathe chroot is what is served out to teh clients10:14
mattfletchersee, i wanted to look at people's desktops using thin client manager, but it said "instal x11vnc on the client" or something similar. So sat at the server, I installed it, but I still get the message to install it. Is there a special way of installing software into the chroot, or does it just use the packages as installed on the server?10:16
mattfletcher(on another note, i would call x11vnc a dependency of tcm if its needed for a function of the default build packages)10:18
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Burgundaviamattfletcher: if you need to do that, use thin-client-manager in fiesty10:25
mattfletcherBurgundavia: I am using TCM in feisty. But you cannot see the screens as it says "install x11vnc" within the tcm window.10:27
Burgundaviahmm10:28
mattfletcheri just want to know whether installing a package on the server makes it available to thin client10:28
Burgundaviano, you need to install it in the chroot10:29
mattfletcherhow?10:29
Burgundaviajust a sec, finding the link10:29
Burgundaviahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/LTSPManagement10:33
Burgundaviasee the bit about the chroot10:33
mattfletcherthat's talking about push-upgrades. i want to know how to install new packages. Must I use the Add/Remove Programs?10:34
mattfletcher(from a thin client)10:34
Burgundaviaonce you change to the chroot, you can use apt-get normally10:35
mattfletcheroh hang on, i think i get it. I do "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386" then i can install stuff?10:35
Burgundaviayep10:36
Burgundaviathe chroot is basically an entire edubuntu system on its own10:36
mattfletchergot it, smashing. that means i can ssh in from here (i'm away from the network right now) chroot, and then add the stuff we need. cool. is there any way of finding out what packages i've installed? i know about dpkg -l, but that lists the base install packages too10:37
Burgundaviathere is a dpkg log10:37
Burgundavia /var/log/dpkg.log10:38
mattfletcherright cool10:38
mattfletcheri must remember to document all these things i'm learning.10:38
Burgundaviawell, there is a plan to extend the software management tools, including the updater, to cover teh chroot10:38
mattfletcherso apt-get'ing on the server would affect the clients too then?10:39
Burgundavialikely only the graphical clients10:40
Burgundaviaanyway, need to sleep10:41
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juliuxhi JaneW12:05
JaneWola juliux  :)12:06
highvoltageJaneW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrUJNA-VFbE12:11
highvoltageJaneW: scott free'd a bird last night :)12:11
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JaneWaw!12:15
JaneWPoor birdie, how did it get stuck?12:15
JaneWhighvoltage: ps thanks for being on the ball with posting photos, I nabbed the one of RichEd, ogra and I to send to the kids as proof that we are still alive :)12:16
JaneWsend=sent12:16
highvoltageJaneW: :)12:18
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dabaRwhois yim02:33
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dabaRsorry, I did not intend to send that without the /02:39
dabaRhmmm, that was probably obvious...02:40
kgoetz*grin*02:40
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cliebow_ldm works fine in ppc feisty ltsp..but xdmcp makes no attempt at login to...err..login02:41
cliebow_any comment?02:42
kgoetzhave you enabled xdmcp on the server?02:43
kgoetz+client02:43
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cliebow_kgoetz, Yep02:44
cliebow_+client? you mean in lts.conf..adding SCREEN_01=startx?02:45
kgoetzhavent tried xdmcp using ldm - didnt know it supported it.02:46
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cliebow_kgoetz, no the two are independent02:52
cliebow_i see the problem..(s) ldap is screwedup02:52
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cliebow_ogra: hos it going there?03:13
cliebow_reboot for nsswitchconf..brb03:14
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cliebow_ogra:where would i look for errors running ppc feisty ltsp with gdm..client login instantly returns to username screen03:24
cliebow_Ohhhh...i know!03:31
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cliebow_ vagrantc:Whats up over there!03:34
vagrantccliebow_: dozens of local distros03:34
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ogradozens ?03:46
ograhundrets ....03:46
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ograone for every village with more than 40 inhabitants ;)03:46
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cliebow_it takes a distro to raise a child?03:50
cliebow_debian as a common thread? or Really home-grown03:50
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cberloHi folks!  Has anyone used Sabayon to manage user profiles?03:55
kgoetza while ago03:55
cberlokgoetz: It doesn't seem to work in my test environment.  I haven't used it extensively (yet) but my initial tests don't seem to alter anything for my test user's desktop.  I'm also trying to implement Pessulus to lockdown things, but only the Pessulus changes are taking.03:56
cberlokgoetz: There's another twist:  I need to use winbind for my user accounts -- any idea if this is going to work with these tools, or do you know of anything else I should look into?03:57
kgoetzdont know anything about winbind, or if pessulus+sabayon conflict, but with sabayon i do remmeber you have to add the user to the new settings once you create+save a profile, were you doing that?03:58
cberloYep, did that.  Just creating a fresh user to play with.  Maybe because I created the user and changes some settings first it messed something up?03:59
kgoetzcouldnt be sure - i only did inital testing too04:00
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cberloOkay.  I've got a "system" I've worked out, but it's cumbersome and involves deleting the user's home directory everytime they log out (time consuming and dangerous if they've saved files in the wrong spot...).04:01
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cberloOkay, I'll have to keep working with this.  I need an easier way to manage desktop settings.04:06
kgoetzknow the feeling.04:09
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flubbercan someone help me?04:15
kgoetznot if tehy dont know what your problem is04:18
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vagrantccliebow_: seems like more ubuntu based, but a few debian too04:18
flubberI need help with finding a file that i moved to a place that does not exist04:19
bddebianHeya04:19
flubberi accidentlly moved to the file to /var/wwww instead of /var/www04:19
kgoetzdo you have a file called wwww in /var/ now?04:22
flubberno04:22
flubberi never did04:22
kgoetzflubber: what command did you run to move the file?04:23
flubbersudo mv file /var/wwww04:23
kgoetzare you sure the file isnt called wwww now?04:24
kgoetzls -lh /var/wwww will tell you04:24
flubberit says: <body bgcolor="#00FFFF">04:24
flubberit says: -rw-r--r-- 1 administrator administrator 26K 2007-05-04 10:09 /var/wwww04:25
kgoetztheres your file04:25
flubberhow do i get the file recycle.jpeg out of there04:25
kgoetzmv /var/wwww ~/file04:25
kgoetzthe oposite of how you got it there04:26
flubbersudo mv /var/wwww~recycle.jpeg04:26
kgoetzspace tild slash filename04:26
kgoetz ~/filename04:26
flubbersudo mv /var/wwww ~/recycle.jpeg04:27
kgoetzyes04:27
flubber?04:27
flubberok thankx04:27
flubberi will try it hold on04:27
kgoetzthen run `file recycle.jpeg` to check its still in the correct format04:27
flubberthank you04:28
kgoetzno worries04:28
kgoetzhope it heled04:28
kgoetz*helped04:28
flubberit did04:28
mcsddoes anyone know of a video capture program to record my desktop in avi format04:36
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cberlomcsd:  can't recall the format, but recordmydesktop (and recordmydesktop-gtk) may work for you.04:49
cberlomcsd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605 looks useful, but there may be something more recent on this tool.04:50
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cberloHey folks...  new problem just cropped up:  I'm running Edubuntu server in a VMWare session (so that *may* be the issue) and it's locking up when I try to log out my administrative user.  Any other user seems to work.04:52
cberlo(Feisty install)04:54
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highvoltageogra: IN all honesty I don't think documentation should be so complicated. people should just write stuff :)05:02
ograhighvoltage, good idea !05:03
ograstart then ;)05:03
dabaRhighvoltage: official vs. anything. See the GFDL for an example of the protection of the official version.05:03
dabaRs/anything/unofficial05:03
highvoltageogra: can you suggest a good place to start? it seems that everything is quite covered. I have trouble figuring out where to apply myself in terms of documentation.05:04
ograhighvoltage, will should be able to tell you05:04
highvoltageogra: ok05:04
ograi'm usually only packaging up what i get05:04
ograor even only upload what jordan sends me05:04
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mcsdin kStars I right clicked on Mars and chose to goto the Mars Project Home page but it errors out with: "could not find service 'kfmclient'" which I googled is part of the KDE gui, I am running Gnome which is what was packaged with edubuntu.  I do not see how to change this is the kStars configuration...anyone know?05:54
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mcsdanyone?06:10
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doc__hi there06:22
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mcsdis anyone availble to help?07:13
mcsdI have a question about Kstars and how it seems to have been designed for KDE and not Gnome07:14
HedgeMageI'm kinda here07:16
HedgeMagebut I'm working, so I may be slow to respond07:16
cbx33mcsd indeed07:20
cbx33kstars is written for the kde framework07:20
cbx33mcsd, what's the prblem?07:24
mcsdin kStars I right clicked on Mars and chose to goto the Mars Project Home page but it errors out with: "could not find service 'kfmclient'" which I googled is part of the KDE gui, I am running Gnome which is what was packaged with edubuntu.  I do not see how to change this is the kStars configuration...anyone know?07:33
mcsdbasically to me it looks like it doesn't know how to reference the URLS stored in the program because the relied on the kfmclient to work with Konqueror07:35
mcsd*they not the07:35
cbx33you can't change it07:35
cbx33hmm07:35
cbx33though that does look like a bug07:35
cbx33I don't have time to look at it now, I'm just about to go out07:35
cbx33please register a bug on launchpad07:36
cbx33and I know someone will get to it soon07:36
cbx33it may take a few days as they are mostly at a conferecne right now07:36
mcsdok07:37
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skipperHi everyone09:18
skipperI just upgraded edubuntu to 7.04 and now some of my terminals will not connect.  Any ideas?09:19
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cliebow_ as in you have a login screen?09:22
skipperAs in..."No IP Address..."09:29
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cliebow_first dhcp..or later?09:39
skipperIt never gets to the dhcp on the terminals that do not connect, just the "No IP" message09:40
skipperI have rebooted several times, but the same thing happens.  I did notice that if I let the boot disk run awhile a couple of more terminals finally conneced09:42
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skipperI was under the impression that 7.04 would connect quicker09:43
skipperThe actual message I get is "Searching for server...No IP..."09:45
skipperI just rebooted the five and one connected, two others gave a "job control turned off" message, and the other two are still cycling09:49
cliebow_skipper..once more..is this at beginning of boot sequence..or i see perhaps 2 that die trying to mount nfs09:51
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skipperThe ones that do not connect show the "dhcp" message and then "no ip" and that is all.  the no ip msg keeps repeating09:53
skipperThe actual sequence is that the mac address is printed, then "searching for servers (DHCP)" then "No IP" ...09:55
skipperAnother one just connected after about 15 minutes.09:56
skipperWhen I was running the old version, all 12 terminals would come up within five minutes.  So something got changed in 7.0409:59
skipperDoes anyone on the line have any ideas about version 7.04 not allowing terminals to connect?10:01
sacateris highvoltage around?10:03
skippermsg sacater It says highvoltage is connected but I am not getting many responses10:04
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highvoltagehi sacater10:55
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cbx33hey highvoltage11:00
highvoltagehey cbx3311:06
cbx33how are you?11:07
highvoltagecbx33: sbalneav saved a life yesterday11:08
cbx33what...really?11:08
cbx33as in....ion real life?11:08
highvoltageyeah. I even got it on video11:09
highvoltagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrUJNA-VFbE11:09
cbx33aww11:27
cbx33cool11:27
cliebow   sbaalneav Rocks!11:29
highvoltagehe does so. make his day and comment that on the video :)11:29
cbx33ok11:30
BurgworkI am off to the airport11:35
Burgworksee you all tomorrow11:35
cliebowi will...11:36
cbx33highvoltage, Done11:36
highvoltagecbx33: cool :)11:37
highvoltagecbx33: I'm going to blog about it tomorrow11:37
highvoltageBurgwork: still there?11:37
highvoltageBurgwork: I'm finally meeting you in person!11:38
Burgworkindeed11:39
Burgworkfly in tomorrow, at 11pm11:39
cliebowscrew that..im not joining one more foolish mailing list11:40
highvoltagecool11:40
cliebowbot i thought all you guys knew each other..11:40
cbx33;)11:42
cliebowyou all are the IN crowd..8`)11:43
highvoltagecliebow: we haven't all met in person yet :)11:51
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cliebowi know..i thought you.d gotten tog ether in Montreal11:54
cliebowit made a abig difference to get a bunch of us ltsp guys together11:55
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