[12:19] <sbalneav> no
[12:19] <sbalneav> I don't know, I'm trying to find that out.
[12:19] <yim> the cd boot caldera dr dos
[12:20] <yim> and its the size you said
[12:20] <sbalneav> So, it actually comes up to a C:> prompt?
[12:20] <sbalneav> The you didn't burn that ISO image to the cd.
[12:20] <yim> the cd dose not boot ubuntu
[12:20] <sbalneav> Check your burning software
[12:20] <yim> yea i did
[12:20] <yim> i used nero
[12:20] <sbalneav> you're not burning that ISO properly.
[12:20] <yim> what shoul i do burn as a bootable cd
[12:21] <yim> or just burn image and then burn data
[12:21] <sbalneav> I don't know, I don't run windows, so I don't run any windows programs.  Check on the Ubuntu Wiki, they've got instructions on there.
[12:21] <yim> ok
[12:22] <yim> is ubutu worth it
[12:22] <yim> is it good for video editing
[12:22] <sbalneav> There's a video editor for Ubuntu
[12:22] <sbalneav> It's called kino
[12:22] <yim> what eles dose it do
[12:23] <highvoltage> hey sbalneav
[12:23] <highvoltage> sbalneav: long time no see!
[12:23] <sbalneav> Hey highvoltage
[12:23] <sbalneav> Hey, I'm gonna want the bird video tomorrow!
[12:24] <sbalneav> yim: it comes with a web browser, an email client, a word processor, spreadsheet, photo manager, etc etc.
[12:24] <yim> o k thanks
[12:25] <sbalneav> Well, I'm getting tired.  Think I'm going to turn in.
[12:25] <sbalneav> See you all tomorrow!!!!
[12:25] <highvoltage> sbalneav: I'm uploading that video.... tomottor then :)
[12:25] <highvoltage> *tomorrow
[12:54] <ajmitch> hey highvoltage
[01:42] <yimmmmy> hello
[01:42] <yimmmmy> i have a booting error i need help with
[01:43] <yimmmmy> it just boots windows
[01:44] <yimmmmy> is there someonethere
[01:49] <yimmmmy> can some one help me with instilation
[02:56] <BBHoss> anybody else having problems installing edubuntu 7.04?
[02:56] <BBHoss> AMD64
[02:57] <BBHoss> mine is freezing on brltty-x11
[06:14] <prototipo> hay alguien que me pueda ayudar
[06:14] <prototipo> tengo algunas preguntas
[06:19] <bimberi> !es | edgardo
[06:20] <bimberi> edgardo: try #edubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es
[06:20] <edgardo> necesito saber como hacerlo para ver el computador de un cliente en el thin client manager
[06:21] <edgardo> tengo todo instalado
[06:21] <edgardo> funciona bien
[06:22] <edgardo> puedo iniciar y terminar procesos
[06:22] <edgardo> pero no puedo
[06:22] <edgardo> ver la pantalla del cliente
[06:26] <ubotu> edgardo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:26] <ubotoo> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:28] <prototipo> hi
[08:28] <prototipo> no speak english good
[08:28] <prototipo> need help whit thin client manager
[08:29] <prototipo> please
[08:30] <prototipo> thank
[09:04] <Burgundavia> hey Amaranth
[09:04] <Amaranth> hey
[09:50] <highvoltage> ogra: do we have a gobby server running?
[09:51] <highvoltage> ogra: got it from sbalneav
[09:51] <sbalneav> I wonder if gobby.ubuntu.com is still running?
[09:52] <sbalneav> I can't raise elmo
[09:52] <Burgundavia> try #canonical-sysadmin
[10:13] <mattfletcher> I'm confused about this chroot business. If I install a package while I'm sat at the server, does that mean it will automatically be available to any thin clients on my network, or must I do it from within the chroot? And if so, how?
[10:14] <Burgundavia> the chroot is what is served out to teh clients
[10:16] <mattfletcher> see, i wanted to look at people's desktops using thin client manager, but it said "instal x11vnc on the client" or something similar. So sat at the server, I installed it, but I still get the message to install it. Is there a special way of installing software into the chroot, or does it just use the packages as installed on the server?
[10:18] <mattfletcher> (on another note, i would call x11vnc a dependency of tcm if its needed for a function of the default build packages)
[10:25] <Burgundavia> mattfletcher: if you need to do that, use thin-client-manager in fiesty
[10:27] <mattfletcher> Burgundavia: I am using TCM in feisty. But you cannot see the screens as it says "install x11vnc" within the tcm window.
[10:28] <Burgundavia> hmm
[10:28] <mattfletcher> i just want to know whether installing a package on the server makes it available to thin client
[10:29] <Burgundavia> no, you need to install it in the chroot
[10:29] <mattfletcher> how?
[10:29] <Burgundavia> just a sec, finding the link
[10:33] <Burgundavia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/LTSPManagement
[10:33] <Burgundavia> see the bit about the chroot
[10:34] <mattfletcher> that's talking about push-upgrades. i want to know how to install new packages. Must I use the Add/Remove Programs?
[10:34] <mattfletcher> (from a thin client)
[10:35] <Burgundavia> once you change to the chroot, you can use apt-get normally
[10:35] <mattfletcher> oh hang on, i think i get it. I do "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386" then i can install stuff?
[10:36] <Burgundavia> yep
[10:36] <Burgundavia> the chroot is basically an entire edubuntu system on its own
[10:37] <mattfletcher> got it, smashing. that means i can ssh in from here (i'm away from the network right now) chroot, and then add the stuff we need. cool. is there any way of finding out what packages i've installed? i know about dpkg -l, but that lists the base install packages too
[10:37] <Burgundavia> there is a dpkg log
[10:38] <Burgundavia>  /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:38] <mattfletcher> right cool
[10:38] <mattfletcher> i must remember to document all these things i'm learning.
[10:38] <Burgundavia> well, there is a plan to extend the software management tools, including the updater, to cover teh chroot
[10:39] <mattfletcher> so apt-get'ing on the server would affect the clients too then?
[10:40] <Burgundavia> likely only the graphical clients
[10:41] <Burgundavia> anyway, need to sleep
[12:05] <juliux> hi JaneW
[12:06] <JaneW> ola juliux  :)
[12:11] <highvoltage> JaneW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrUJNA-VFbE
[12:11] <highvoltage> JaneW: scott free'd a bird last night :)
[12:15] <JaneW> aw!
[12:15] <JaneW> Poor birdie, how did it get stuck?
[12:16] <JaneW> highvoltage: ps thanks for being on the ball with posting photos, I nabbed the one of RichEd, ogra and I to send to the kids as proof that we are still alive :)
[12:16] <JaneW> send=sent
[12:18] <highvoltage> JaneW: :)
[02:33] <dabaR> whois yim
[02:39] <dabaR> sorry, I did not intend to send that without the /
[02:40] <dabaR> hmmm, that was probably obvious...
[02:40] <kgoetz> *grin*
[02:41] <cliebow_> ldm works fine in ppc feisty ltsp..but xdmcp makes no attempt at login to...err..login
[02:42] <cliebow_> any comment?
[02:43] <kgoetz> have you enabled xdmcp on the server?
[02:43] <kgoetz> +client
[02:44] <cliebow_> kgoetz, Yep
[02:45] <cliebow_> +client? you mean in lts.conf..adding SCREEN_01=startx?
[02:46] <kgoetz> havent tried xdmcp using ldm - didnt know it supported it.
[02:52] <cliebow_> kgoetz, no the two are independent
[02:52] <cliebow_> i see the problem..(s) ldap is screwedup
[03:13] <cliebow_> ogra: hos it going there?
[03:14] <cliebow_> reboot for nsswitchconf..brb
[03:24] <cliebow_> ogra:where would i look for errors running ppc feisty ltsp with gdm..client login instantly returns to username screen
[03:31] <cliebow_> Ohhhh...i know!
[03:34] <cliebow_>  vagrantc:Whats up over there!
[03:34] <vagrantc> cliebow_: dozens of local distros
[03:46] <ogra> dozens ?
[03:46] <ogra> hundrets ....
[03:46] <ogra> one for every village with more than 40 inhabitants ;)
[03:50] <cliebow_> it takes a distro to raise a child?
[03:50] <cliebow_> debian as a common thread? or Really home-grown
[03:55] <cberlo> Hi folks!  Has anyone used Sabayon to manage user profiles?
[03:55] <kgoetz> a while ago
[03:56] <cberlo> kgoetz: It doesn't seem to work in my test environment.  I haven't used it extensively (yet) but my initial tests don't seem to alter anything for my test user's desktop.  I'm also trying to implement Pessulus to lockdown things, but only the Pessulus changes are taking.
[03:57] <cberlo> kgoetz: There's another twist:  I need to use winbind for my user accounts -- any idea if this is going to work with these tools, or do you know of anything else I should look into?
[03:58] <kgoetz> dont know anything about winbind, or if pessulus+sabayon conflict, but with sabayon i do remmeber you have to add the user to the new settings once you create+save a profile, were you doing that?
[03:59] <cberlo> Yep, did that.  Just creating a fresh user to play with.  Maybe because I created the user and changes some settings first it messed something up?
[04:00] <kgoetz> couldnt be sure - i only did inital testing too
[04:01] <cberlo> Okay.  I've got a "system" I've worked out, but it's cumbersome and involves deleting the user's home directory everytime they log out (time consuming and dangerous if they've saved files in the wrong spot...).
[04:06] <cberlo> Okay, I'll have to keep working with this.  I need an easier way to manage desktop settings.
[04:09] <kgoetz> know the feeling.
[04:15] <flubber> can someone help me?
[04:18] <kgoetz> not if tehy dont know what your problem is
[04:18] <vagrantc> cliebow_: seems like more ubuntu based, but a few debian too
[04:19] <flubber> I need help with finding a file that i moved to a place that does not exist
[04:19] <bddebian> Heya
[04:19] <flubber> i accidentlly moved to the file to /var/wwww instead of /var/www
[04:22] <kgoetz> do you have a file called wwww in /var/ now?
[04:22] <flubber> no
[04:22] <flubber> i never did
[04:23] <kgoetz> flubber: what command did you run to move the file?
[04:23] <flubber> sudo mv file /var/wwww
[04:24] <kgoetz> are you sure the file isnt called wwww now?
[04:24] <kgoetz> ls -lh /var/wwww will tell you
[04:24] <flubber> it says: <body bgcolor="#00FFFF">
[04:25] <flubber> it says: -rw-r--r-- 1 administrator administrator 26K 2007-05-04 10:09 /var/wwww
[04:25] <kgoetz> theres your file
[04:25] <flubber> how do i get the file recycle.jpeg out of there
[04:25] <kgoetz> mv /var/wwww ~/file
[04:26] <kgoetz> the oposite of how you got it there
[04:26] <flubber> sudo mv /var/wwww~recycle.jpeg
[04:26] <kgoetz> space tild slash filename
[04:26] <kgoetz>  ~/filename
[04:27] <flubber> sudo mv /var/wwww ~/recycle.jpeg
[04:27] <kgoetz> yes
[04:27] <flubber> ?
[04:27] <flubber> ok thankx
[04:27] <flubber> i will try it hold on
[04:27] <kgoetz> then run `file recycle.jpeg` to check its still in the correct format
[04:28] <flubber> thank you
[04:28] <kgoetz> no worries
[04:28] <kgoetz> hope it heled
[04:28] <kgoetz> *helped
[04:28] <flubber> it did
[04:36] <mcsd> does anyone know of a video capture program to record my desktop in avi format
[04:49] <cberlo> mcsd:  can't recall the format, but recordmydesktop (and recordmydesktop-gtk) may work for you.
[04:50] <cberlo> mcsd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605 looks useful, but there may be something more recent on this tool.
[04:52] <cberlo> Hey folks...  new problem just cropped up:  I'm running Edubuntu server in a VMWare session (so that *may* be the issue) and it's locking up when I try to log out my administrative user.  Any other user seems to work.
[04:54] <cberlo> (Feisty install)
[05:02] <highvoltage> ogra: IN all honesty I don't think documentation should be so complicated. people should just write stuff :)
[05:03] <ogra> highvoltage, good idea !
[05:03] <ogra> start then ;)
[05:03] <dabaR> highvoltage: official vs. anything. See the GFDL for an example of the protection of the official version.
[05:03] <dabaR> s/anything/unofficial
[05:04] <highvoltage> ogra: can you suggest a good place to start? it seems that everything is quite covered. I have trouble figuring out where to apply myself in terms of documentation.
[05:04] <ogra> highvoltage, will should be able to tell you
[05:04] <highvoltage> ogra: ok
[05:04] <ogra> i'm usually only packaging up what i get
[05:04] <ogra> or even only upload what jordan sends me
[05:54] <mcsd> in kStars I right clicked on Mars and chose to goto the Mars Project Home page but it errors out with: "could not find service 'kfmclient'" which I googled is part of the KDE gui, I am running Gnome which is what was packaged with edubuntu.  I do not see how to change this is the kStars configuration...anyone know?
[06:10] <mcsd> anyone?
[06:22] <doc__> hi there
[07:13] <mcsd> is anyone availble to help?
[07:14] <mcsd> I have a question about Kstars and how it seems to have been designed for KDE and not Gnome
[07:16] <HedgeMage> I'm kinda here
[07:16] <HedgeMage> but I'm working, so I may be slow to respond
[07:20] <cbx33> mcsd indeed
[07:20] <cbx33> kstars is written for the kde framework
[07:24] <cbx33> mcsd, what's the prblem?
[07:33] <mcsd> in kStars I right clicked on Mars and chose to goto the Mars Project Home page but it errors out with: "could not find service 'kfmclient'" which I googled is part of the KDE gui, I am running Gnome which is what was packaged with edubuntu.  I do not see how to change this is the kStars configuration...anyone know?
[07:35] <mcsd> basically to me it looks like it doesn't know how to reference the URLS stored in the program because the relied on the kfmclient to work with Konqueror
[07:35] <mcsd> *they not the
[07:35] <cbx33> you can't change it
[07:35] <cbx33> hmm
[07:35] <cbx33> though that does look like a bug
[07:35] <cbx33> I don't have time to look at it now, I'm just about to go out
[07:36] <cbx33> please register a bug on launchpad
[07:36] <cbx33> and I know someone will get to it soon
[07:36] <cbx33> it may take a few days as they are mostly at a conferecne right now
[07:37] <mcsd> ok
[09:18] <skipper> Hi everyone
[09:19] <skipper> I just upgraded edubuntu to 7.04 and now some of my terminals will not connect.  Any ideas?
[09:22] <cliebow_>  as in you have a login screen?
[09:29] <skipper> As in..."No IP Address..."
[09:39] <cliebow_> first dhcp..or later?
[09:40] <skipper> It never gets to the dhcp on the terminals that do not connect, just the "No IP" message
[09:42] <skipper> I have rebooted several times, but the same thing happens.  I did notice that if I let the boot disk run awhile a couple of more terminals finally conneced
[09:43] <skipper> I was under the impression that 7.04 would connect quicker
[09:45] <skipper> The actual message I get is "Searching for server...No IP..."
[09:49] <skipper> I just rebooted the five and one connected, two others gave a "job control turned off" message, and the other two are still cycling
[09:51] <cliebow_> skipper..once more..is this at beginning of boot sequence..or i see perhaps 2 that die trying to mount nfs
[09:53] <skipper> The ones that do not connect show the "dhcp" message and then "no ip" and that is all.  the no ip msg keeps repeating
[09:55] <skipper> The actual sequence is that the mac address is printed, then "searching for servers (DHCP)" then "No IP" ...
[09:56] <skipper> Another one just connected after about 15 minutes.
[09:59] <skipper> When I was running the old version, all 12 terminals would come up within five minutes.  So something got changed in 7.04
[10:01] <skipper> Does anyone on the line have any ideas about version 7.04 not allowing terminals to connect?
[10:03] <sacater> is highvoltage around?
[10:04] <skipper> msg sacater It says highvoltage is connected but I am not getting many responses
[10:55] <highvoltage> hi sacater
[11:00] <cbx33> hey highvoltage
[11:06] <highvoltage> hey cbx33
[11:07] <cbx33> how are you?
[11:08] <highvoltage> cbx33: sbalneav saved a life yesterday
[11:08] <cbx33> what...really?
[11:08] <cbx33> as in....ion real life?
[11:09] <highvoltage> yeah. I even got it on video
[11:09] <highvoltage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrUJNA-VFbE
[11:27] <cbx33> aww
[11:27] <cbx33> cool
[11:29] <cliebow>    sbaalneav Rocks!
[11:29] <highvoltage> he does so. make his day and comment that on the video :)
[11:30] <cbx33> ok
[11:35] <Burgwork> I am off to the airport
[11:35] <Burgwork> see you all tomorrow
[11:36] <cliebow> i will...
[11:36] <cbx33> highvoltage, Done
[11:37] <highvoltage> cbx33: cool :)
[11:37] <highvoltage> cbx33: I'm going to blog about it tomorrow
[11:37] <highvoltage> Burgwork: still there?
[11:38] <highvoltage> Burgwork: I'm finally meeting you in person!
[11:39] <Burgwork> indeed
[11:39] <Burgwork> fly in tomorrow, at 11pm
[11:40] <cliebow> screw that..im not joining one more foolish mailing list
[11:40] <highvoltage> cool
[11:40] <cliebow> bot i thought all you guys knew each other..
[11:42] <cbx33> ;)
[11:43] <cliebow> you all are the IN crowd..8`)
[11:51] <highvoltage> cliebow: we haven't all met in person yet :)
[11:54] <cliebow> i know..i thought you.d gotten tog ether in Montreal
[11:55] <cliebow> it made a abig difference to get a bunch of us ltsp guys together