[12:41] <nixternal> I need something to do, this waiting around for stuff is driving me nuts
[12:44] <crimsun> fix your Vista install?
[12:52] <ryanakca> ScottK: kk, thanks
[12:53] <DaSkreech> nixternal: I got the KDE4 live
[12:54] <nixternal> your thoughts?
[12:54] <DaSkreech> few things work for long :)
[12:54] <DaSkreech> Love the SVG games
[12:54] <DaSkreech> I'm doubting myself using dolphin
[12:54] <nixternal> crimsun: when you send me one of those millions of copies you have of Vista, I will install it :)
[12:54] <nixternal> Dolphin is kind of nice, but I am a Konqui type of guy
[12:54] <DaSkreech> Though after messing with a lot of the settings it was tolerable
[12:54] <nixternal> so I am sure i will not be switching
[12:55] <DaSkreech> It's good enough to pull people who can't live without finder/natuilus
[12:55] <nixternal> something is lagging badly on this system
[12:55] <DaSkreech> Kpat is schweet :)
[12:55] <DaSkreech> Krunner needs to hit puberty
[12:55] <DaSkreech> Hmm didn't test strigi. I'll do that later
[12:56] <nixternal> heh, krunner looks kind of familiar :)
[12:56] <DaSkreech> It does?
[12:56] <nixternal> heh, reminds me of katapult a little bit
[12:56] <nixternal> well it did, it doesn't anymore really
[12:57] <DaSkreech> Yeah that's what I thought :)
[12:57] <DaSkreech>  Well we are looking at having katapult and krunner use the same catalogs ;-)
[12:57] <nixternal> oh ya, duh I forgot all about that
[12:57] <DaSkreech> Wonder if krunner will kill it the same way that Konsole killed yakuake
[12:58] <DaSkreech> Mez is bugging about it though
[12:58] <nixternal> Konsole killed yakuake?
[12:58] <nixternal> dude, I can't live w/o Yakuake
[12:58] <DaSkreech> nixternal: not reading the KDE commit logs :)
[12:58] <nixternal> argh
[12:58] <nixternal> well then, there is always Tilda
[12:59] <DaSkreech> konsole implemented a "hide feature" which makes it invisible but it can be called back with a key by default "F12"
[12:59] <DaSkreech> Hmmmm
[12:59] <DaSkreech> Umm. So why am I using Yakuake again?
[12:59] <ryanakca> dunno
[12:59] <nixternal> DaSkreech: now that is sweet
[01:00] <nixternal> that is a KDE4 thing
[01:00] <DaSkreech> Full fledged Konsole with tabs monitoring the output, coour coding per session and I can attach it to any side of the screen so I can have it slide in from the right
[01:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[01:01] <DaSkreech> I think that katapult can add in enough extra functionality that would make it more valuable than krunner by itself for power users
[01:02] <DaSkreech> or very lazy people :)
[01:02] <DaSkreech> I need to write a set of specs though
[01:02] <DaSkreech> THat's what the katapult wiki needs. Spec sheets
[01:04] <DaSkreech> nixternal: can' koffice do syntax highlighting ?
[01:06] <nixternal> dunno
[01:06] <nixternal> I would think it could
[01:07] <nixternal> DaSkreech: is the new Konqui on the KDE 4 live cd?
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Didn't open Konqueror
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Whats new bout it?
[01:09] <nixternal> you said it replaces yakuake and then talked about the options up there ^^ a few lines up
[01:09] <nixternal> I want that now!
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Konqui?
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Or Konsole?
[01:10] <nixternal> ya
[01:10] <nixternal> duh
[01:10] <nixternal> I just thought about what I said :)
[01:10] <DaSkreech> No too recent I think
[01:10] <DaSkreech>  the next build should have it
[01:12] <DaSkreech> Gotta run though :)
[01:12] <DaSkreech> nixternal: what are you waiting for?
[01:12] <nixternal> that kool sounding konsole
[01:12] <nixternal> I am updating my kde 4 build on my other machine right now
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Neat :)
[01:14] <nixternal> well I was going to
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Add in a contents page for katapult wiki
[01:15] <nixternal> when I goto build Qt it asks for a key
[01:15] <DaSkreech>  what's up with the screenshots?
[01:15] <DaSkreech> did they go in?
[01:15] <nixternal> they are on the main page
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Oh
[01:15] <nixternal> I need to fix that, and I need to update the doc as well
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Must have missed them :)
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Well I'm off
[01:15] <nixternal> brb, I think my dogs took off
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Night
[01:15] <nixternal> hehe, later
[01:15] <nixternal> g'nite
[02:49] <nixternal> jdong: you OK there :)
[02:50] <jdong> nixternal: surviving :D
[02:51] <nixternal> heh
[10:44] <Riddell> off to spain now
[10:44] <cmvo> Riddell: Have a nice trip!
[11:04] <allee> Strange feisty regression: connect via pppd.  firefox, ssh, kio-sftp, ping work.   But at least kio-https(s) kio-pop3s do not.
[11:04] <allee> Removing the avahi route with metric 1000 (ppp0 has metric 0)  makes everything work as before.
[11:09] <allee> no avahi in edgy does not add a default route
[11:26] <manchicken> Riddell: You're leaving already?
[11:26] <manchicken> (I suppose he already would have left by now)
[12:27] <serzholino> hi! what adept version in edgy should i have to upgrade to feisty via new upgrade manager?
[12:27] <serzholino> i have 2.1.1ubuntu3.4 installed
[12:27] <serzholino> and there is no version upgrade button in it
[12:28] <ScottK> serzholino: Look a packages.ubuntu.com to make sure you are current.
[12:30] <serzholino> hm, there is no edgy-updates section at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:30] <ScottK> No, it just shows the most current  update there.
[12:31] <serzholino> are you sure? it shows 2.1.1ubuntu3 for edgy
[12:31] <serzholino> while apt-cache policy says
[12:31] <serzholino>   Installed: 2.1.1ubuntu3.4
[12:31] <ScottK> You can also look it up on launchpad.  That'll be more current in some cases.
[12:32] <serzholino>   Candidate: 2.1.1ubuntu3.4
[12:32] <serzholino>   Version table:
[12:32] <serzholino>  *** 2.1.1ubuntu3.4 0
[12:32] <serzholino>         500 http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages
[12:32] <serzholino>         500 http://ua.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages
[12:32] <serzholino>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:32] <serzholino>      2.1.1ubuntu3 0
[12:32] <serzholino>         500 cdrom://Kubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1) edgy/main Packages
[12:32] <ScottK> Launchpad says you have the most current version for Edgy
[12:33] <ScottK> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept
[12:33] <ScottK> IIRC the upgrade instructions tell you how to proceed if you don't get offered the upgrade...
[12:36] <serzholino> it tells to make full upgrade
[12:36] <serzholino> but i did it already
[12:36] <serzholino> and there is no more available updates
[12:37] <serzholino> maybe this line  500 http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages
[12:37] <serzholino> is confusing
[12:38] <ScottK> serzholino: Would you please pastebin your entire sources.list] 
[12:38] <serzholino> yep, wait a minute
[12:41] <serzholino> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19117/
[12:45] <ScottK> serzholino: Note that everything on lines 6 - 25 on your sources.list are non-Kubuntu repositories.
[12:46] <ScottK> Definitely comment those out.
[12:46] <serzholino> yep
[12:46] <ScottK> Also comment out the first two lines as well.
[12:46] <ScottK> also the CDROM line too (that may be your issue)
[12:47] <ScottK> You did install the pre-feisty-upgrade right?
[12:50] <serzholino> pre-feisty-upgrade is a package?
[12:51] <ScottK> Nevemind on that
[01:10] <serzholino> :(
[01:11] <serzholino> reinstalling adept-manager from http://ua.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main adept-manager 2.1.1ubuntu3.4 didn't helped
[01:17] <ScottK> serzholino: You might do a little better with aptitude dist-upgrade.  It's better about figuring out package relationships generally.
[01:17] <serzholino> ok
[01:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: still at home ?
[01:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: just to tell you I'll be at the austerlitz train station at 6
[01:19] <Tonio_> Riddell: unless you prefer I reach you ar gare du nord ?
[01:30] <serzholino> looks like this is my problem:
[01:30] <serzholino> I've had problem upgrading because I'm in a http_proxy only network. And from my firewall log it seems adept_* DOES NOT use the configured proxy to check for updates (it does use it for everything else however...).
[01:30] <serzholino> from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyComments
[01:30] <Lure> allee: it seems you are hit by knetworkmanager/networkstatus issue
[01:31] <Lure> allee: networks not managed by knm are then reporting no network to networkstatus and then http/pop uses that to check if online
[01:31] <Lure> allee: there are some bugs opened. try removing networkstatus/knetworkmanager
[01:31] <serzholino> oh, gonna try to run adept-manager via tsocks :)
[01:32] <allee> Lure: eh, cool, did not know that kio-http checks for on/offline
[01:32] <allee> Lure: removing the route is easier.  Can't life without knetworkmanager anymore ;)
[01:32] <Lure> allee: there were some last-minute fixes for n-m, but it seems it only covers static networks (ethernet), but not ppp
[01:33] <Lure> Tonio_: [10:44]  <Riddell> off to spain now
[01:34] <Tonio_> Lure: okay :)
[01:35] <Tonio_> Lure: thanks for the info
[01:35] <allee> pah, I've still to wait 18 hours until 'off to spain'
[01:35] <Tonio_> allee: will you be there ?
[01:35] <Lure> Tonio_, allee: have fun in sevilla
[01:35] <allee> Tonio_: yeap
[01:35] <Tonio_> allee: YEAH !
[01:35] <Tonio_> allee: didn't knew about this :)
[01:35] <Tonio_> Lure: thanks :)
[01:35] <allee> Lure: thx
[01:38] <Tonio_> allee: when was this decided ? I never heard that you would come :)
[01:39] <allee> Riddell: asked my some weeks ago.
[01:40] <allee> err ^^ Tonio_ that is
[01:40] <allee> as prefix ;)
[01:41] <Tonio_> allee: hehe okay :)
[01:41] <allee> Tonio_: when will you arrive at the hotel?  AFAIR I should be there ~ 20.00 tomorrow
[01:45] <Tonio_> allee: about 2pm
[01:45] <Tonio_> allee: I leave early
[03:53] <imbrandon> Tonio_: was it you that runs lighttpd ?
[03:57] <Tonio_> imbrandon: yup
[04:15] <imbrandon> i'm trying to convert all my sites on one box to lighttpd now
[04:15] <imbrandon> Tonio_: hheh
[04:15] <imbrandon> but dir listing isnt working
[04:16] <imbrandon> e.g if you goto www.imbrandon.com/misc its working, but if you goto mirror.imbrandon.com its not :(
[04:16] <imbrandon> but mirror.imbrandon.com is working with apt just fine
[04:16] <imbrandon> and so is mirror.imbrandon.com/ubuntu
[04:16] <imbrandon> soooo
[04:19] <bddebian> Heya
[04:20] <imbrandon> heya bddebian
[04:20] <bddebian> Hi imbrandon
[04:20] <nixternal> boo
[04:23] <imbrandon> /win
[04:28] <Tonio_> imbrandon: let me have a look
[04:28] <Tonio_> $
[04:29] <Tonio_> imbrandon: want it enabled on the server side or depending the domain ?
[04:29] <Tonio_> imbrandon: I do for the domain
[04:29] <Tonio_> imbrandon: just do that way :
[04:29] <Tonio_> in lighttpd.conf:
[04:30] <Tonio_> ## virtual directory listings
[04:30] <Tonio_> dir-listing.encoding        = "utf-8"
[04:30] <Tonio_> server.dir-listing          = "disable"
[04:30] <Tonio_> imbrandon: then for your wanted website :
[04:30] <Tonio_> $HTTP["host"]  == "tonio.homelinux.org" {
[04:30] <Tonio_>     server.document-root = "/home/tonio/"
[04:30] <Tonio_>     server.dir-listing = "enable"
[04:30] <Tonio_> }
[04:31] <Tonio_> imbrandon: that's the way I do, works like a charm
[04:31] <imbrandon> k
[04:31] <imbrandon> i dident have the dir-listing added
[04:31] <imbrandon> i'll try that
[04:34] <imbrandon> rockin
[04:34] <imbrandon> looks like it works
[04:34] <imbrandon> thanks Tonio_
[04:35] <imbrandon> went from a constant 9+ load on the webserver to a 0.03 load avg
[04:35] <imbrandon> :)
[04:35] <Tonio_> imbrandon: apache2 sucks like hell compare to lighttpd
[04:35] <Tonio_> at least to  my experience
[04:35] <imbrandon> well it rocks its justa  hog
[04:36] <imbrandon> resource hog
[04:40] <Tonio_> imbrandon: resource hog, configuration of processes and subprocesses has become a nightmare with apache2
[04:40] <Tonio_> imbrandon: and it is unstable while sing lots of resources
[04:41] <Tonio_> imbrandon: I had unexplained server crashes from time to time
[04:41] <Tonio_> I replaced apache2 by lighttpd
[04:41] <Tonio_> no crash for more 8 month now....
[04:41] <Tonio_> imbrandon: in fact intensive mysql usage can overload php which crashes apache, due to the fact that php runs as apache module
[04:42] <Tonio_> lighttpd uses php as cgi, which is way better imho
[05:02] <imbrandon> Tonio_: yea exactly
[05:02] <imbrandon> Tonio_: hehe
[05:31] <manchicken> Fucking airport wireless is blocking port 6667
[05:31] <manchicken> Ack, sorry, thought this was my loco.  Wrong order.  My apologies :)
[05:49] <fdoving> manchicken: i completely agree, blocking outgoing ports to anything is so useless. i have seen 22 blocked too, had to gprs into my server and set ssh to bind to port 443. so useless.
[05:50] <manchicken> I'm forwarding port 6667 through my benevolent web host over SSH :)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> hey fdoving, manchicken
[05:50] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee
[05:50] <Hobbsee> manchicken: how many hours until you get in?
[05:50] <fdoving> hey hobbsee.
[05:50] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato!
[05:51] <fdoving> and jucato.
[05:51] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:52] <Jucato> hi fdoving!
[05:52] <manchicken> I'm still in champaign :)
[05:52] <Hobbsee> manchicken: dodgy.
[05:52] <Hobbsee> i'm finished with planes for hte day :)
[05:52] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you're in Sevilla?
[05:52] <Jucato> (or on the way to?)
[05:53] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i'm in ther,e yes
[05:53] <Hobbsee> sitting in the hotel, using their wireless
[05:53] <Jucato> wow
[05:53] <Jucato> (over Sevilla *and* wireless()
[05:54] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:54] <Hobbsee> it's free wireless - yay!
[05:54] <Hobbsee> heya DaSkreech
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Riddell: when do you get here?
[05:54] <fdoving> hi daskreech.
[05:55] <manchicken> Sorry, mom called :)
[05:55] <Jucato> :D
[05:55] <manchicken> Yeah, my flight leaves Champaign in 1h50m
[05:55] <manchicken> I talked to one of the Ubuntuers from Iowa and we're going to try to hook up in Madrid and share a cab to Hotel Silken
[05:55] <DaSkreech> hi fdoving
[05:56] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Are you already there/
[05:57] <Hobbsee> manchicken: yep
[05:57] <manchicken> I wish I'd chosen to fly on a Thursday.
[05:57] <manchicken> O'Hare is going to be packed.
[05:57] <Hobbsee> manchicken: grab wifi access when you're down at the reception
[05:57] <manchicken> And I've gotta sit there for 3 hours.
[05:57] <manchicken> What do you mean grab wifi access?
[05:57] <manchicken> Is there like a card/
[05:57] <manchicken> BTW, is 802.11g what they use over there?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> there's a printed thing wiht username and password
[05:58] <Hobbsee> different thing for each mac address
[05:58] <manchicken> Ah.  Gotcha.
[05:58] <Hobbsee> it looks like we've all got rooms together, which is good
[05:58] <manchicken> I don't know what folks are talking about with RF-ID in these US passports.
[05:58] <manchicken> Mine only has a magnetic strip in it.
[05:59] <manchicken> They put it through the credit card reader slot.  That was interesting.
[05:59] <Hobbsee> manchicken: security seems lax here - we walked thru with 2 americans, and they didnt care about checking our bags either
[05:59] <Hobbsee> maybe they thought we were all US tourists, so would have all had our bags searched.
[05:59] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:59] <Jucato> (you should see security in our malls here...)
[06:00] <Jucato> they ask you to open your bag(s), but never bother to look in
[06:00] <manchicken> Nice.
[06:00] <Jucato> they just poke it with a stick
[06:00] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:00] <manchicken> Was customs in Madrid easy?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> dunno
[06:00] <Hobbsee> didnt recollect my luggage
[06:00] <manchicken> That's what I'm worried about.
[06:00] <Hobbsee> manchicken: for reference, head straight to the service desk, if your ticket says gate HJK
[06:00] <manchicken> Well there's always the person who checks your passport and asks you what you're in the country for, isn't there?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> means they have NFI at the time of printing, nor on the actual screens
[06:01] <Hobbsee> might be for you
[06:01] <Hobbsee> we stayed inside the airport
[06:01] <manchicken> Yeah, mine says HJK
[06:01] <manchicken> So what's that then?
[06:01] <manchicken> Did you actually fly through Madrid?
[06:01] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:02] <manchicken> Interesting.  Nobody checked your passport?
[06:02] <Hobbsee> oh they did in frankfurt
[06:02] <Hobbsee> and to get on all the flights
[06:02] <Hobbsee> but not stamping
[06:02] <manchicken> But not in Spain?
[06:02] <manchicken> Interesting.
[06:02] <Hobbsee> didnt notice
[06:02] <manchicken> Customs in Mexico was pretty bad, that's one of the reasons I was worried.
[06:02] <manchicken> If what you say is the case then I've been dreading nothing.
[06:03] <manchicken> In Mexico they lined us up to go talk to someone at a desk.
[06:03] <manchicken> Took about 1.5 hours.
[06:03] <Hobbsee> urgh
[06:03] <Hobbsee> i think that because you come from the US, it'll be worse for you in madrid
[06:03] <manchicken> I was afraid I was going to have to deal with that.
[06:03] <Hobbsee> like, that you'll need to get your luggage
[06:03] <manchicken> Naw, I was told my luggage would be waiting for me in Sevilla
[06:04] <manchicken> Well I hope I get to share your experience.
[06:05] <manchicken> I'm too cranky to deal with crap.
[06:05] <manchicken> I should be at the airport between 1400 and 1600 tomorrow.
[06:05] <manchicken> local sevilla time
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: how was that stay in airport experience?
[06:06] <Hobbsee> manchicken: heh.  right
[06:06] <Hobbsee> manchicken: get some sleep on the plane - you'll need it
[06:06] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: hmm?
[06:06] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Sorry, I should be at the hotel between those times
[06:07] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Is San Pablo just a small puddle-jumper airport?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Never mind. Just re-read and got a different sense
[06:07] <DaSkreech>  I thought you slept in the airport
[06:07] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: nah....slept on the plane
[06:07] <Hobbsee> in blocks of about 1.5-2 hours... :(
[06:07] <Hobbsee> manchicken: i think so.
[06:07] <manchicken> Do they still do movies on airplanes
[06:07] <manchicken> ?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> not on iberia
[06:08] <manchicken> I was thinking more along the lines of the long flight.
[06:08] <Hobbsee> they probably do going from the us to madrid, though
[06:08] <manchicken> lmao
[06:08] <manchicken> I was just informed that federal law prohibits bags from being unattended.
[06:08] <Hobbsee> whacko.
[06:08] <Hobbsee> like you'd do that anyway
[06:09] <manchicken> We're at "security level Orange"
[06:09] <Hobbsee> [02:08]  <racarr> Yes. They did.
[06:09] <Hobbsee> [02:08]  <racarr> And other various short shows.
[06:09] <manchicken> Like I know wtf that means.
[06:09] <Hobbsee> oh fun
[06:09] <Hobbsee> means it's one step away from red.  duh
[06:09] <Hobbsee> even i know that
[06:09] <manchicken> Nice.
[06:09] <Hobbsee> we dont have security levels
[06:09] <manchicken> And of course red means BlOoD!
[06:09] <Hobbsee> and frankfurt security was a joke, as it was 6.45 or so in the morning
[06:09] <Hobbsee> yep
[06:09] <manchicken> @leet Security Level Orange
[06:09] <ubotu> S3cur!+y L3v31 0r4ng3
[06:09] <manchicken> That's how they should do it.
[06:10] <Jucato> O.o
[06:10] <manchicken> Then it would be even more arbitrarily cryptic.
[06:10] <manchicken> Because the color orange does well to convey to me what the security threat level is.
[06:11] <manchicken> I thought people who graduated from law school were supposed to be smart.  What a bunch of idiots.
[06:11] <manchicken> See?  I'm cranky.
[06:11] <Hobbsee> awww
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hate to see what you'll be like in a couple of days, wiht lack of sleep
[06:12] <manchicken> For me, lack of sleep is a way of life.
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Just supply liquor
[06:13] <manchicken> Totally.
[06:13] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:13] <manchicken> Caffeine and beer and I'll be right as rain in no time.
[06:13] <Hobbsee> there are 2 bars
[06:13] <manchicken> Whatever the hell that means.
[06:13] <Hobbsee> plenty of drinks, too
[06:13] <manchicken> How much is a pint in Sevilla?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> no idea, i dont drink, sorry
[06:16] <manchicken> Where's Riddell when you nee them?
[06:16] <manchicken> s/them/him/
[06:16] <Hobbsee> dunno
[06:16] <manchicken> s/nee/need/
[06:16] <manchicken> Damn, I should just go hit myself on the head and pass out for the next hour.
[06:17] <DaSkreech> As a far aside. What's up with Java?
[06:18] <manchicken> DaSkreech: It's hot, caffeinated, and comes in a cold form as well.  What about it?
[06:18] <jdong> Hobbsee: not a great idea to carry your passport around, unless you don't have anywhere more secure to put it
[06:19] <Hobbsee> jdong: that's what i thought
[06:19] <Hobbsee> it's a form of ID - but i've got other forms of that
[06:19] <jdong> right; and it's a big pain if it happens to get lost
[06:19] <manchicken> I have an Illinois Driver's License.
[06:19] <jdong> that's a chance to never take on international travel....
[06:19] <manchicken> Is that valid ID over there?
[06:19] <jdong> manchicken: what kind of things would you need an ID for?
[06:19] <Hobbsee> manchicken: would assume so
[06:20] <Hobbsee> jdong: grog?  no idea why you would
[06:20] <manchicken> jdong: Don't  know.  What's the drinking age in Spain, and is it customary for them to check ID?
[06:20] <jdong> manchicken: I'd expect the USA to be the only country with such uptight alcohol regulation
[06:20] <jdong> and oddly the one where DUI/alcoholism is the biggest issue.
[06:20] <jdong> hmm. reverse psychology at work? ;-)
[06:21] <manchicken> jdong: Bless your heart.  You've made a fat geek happy.
[06:21] <jdong> :)
[06:21] <manchicken> No, it's a big deal here because we keep telling our kids that it's evil, so when the kids go through that period in life where they want to piss off their folks, that's just an obvious target.
[06:22] <manchicken> Oh, and because judges here prevent parents from properly disciplining their children.
[06:22] <jdong> not to mention that when they finally become of age, they think alcohol is some holy grail
[06:22] <jdong> and proceed to totally overdo it
[06:22] <manchicken> Yup.
[06:23] <manchicken> I grew up Catholic.  I've technically been drinking since I was 7...
[06:23] <manchicken> Not a big deal
[06:23] <DaSkreech> manchicken: Just saw qt-jambi released
[06:23] <DaSkreech> And remembered that Java is free
[06:23] <manchicken> DaSkreech: Remind me what that is...
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Java QT
[06:23] <jdong> manchicken: the less people think it's a big deal, the less likely they will do something stupid with it....
[06:23] <manchicken> DaSkreech: I didn't think it was free yet.
[06:23] <manchicken> jdong: I couldn't agree more.
[06:24] <Hobbsee> manchicken: i bleieve it's 16
[06:25] <manchicken> That's a reasonable age.
[06:25] <manchicken> Sweet.  My Ubuntu CDs arrived at my house.
[06:26] <jdong> it's a sad state of society when people brag about driving after a few beers and not getting caught....
[06:26] <manchicken> Oh, sweet.  Shipit actually sent me 125 discs according to their site.
[06:26] <manchicken> I'm asking my wife to count for me.
[06:26] <Hobbsee> manchicken: woo!
[06:26] <Hobbsee> there are more cds here
[06:26] <jdong> sweet
[06:26] <manchicken> I'll be totally hitting the libraries.
[06:26] <DaSkreech> manchicken: How many did you get?
[06:26] <Hobbsee> some edubuntu, couple of ubuntu
[06:27] <manchicken> I want to set up little displays at public libraries.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> manchicken: blast
[06:27] <manchicken> And on the University of Illinois Campus.
[06:27] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Do they have any interesting restaurants there?
[06:28] <Hobbsee> manchicken: some, yeah
[06:29] <manchicken> No, I'm wrong.
[06:29] <manchicken> Shipit only says they sent me 50 discs.
[06:29] <manchicken> And my request for Ubuntu discs was declined.
[06:30] <manchicken> So I have 35 x86, and 15 amd64.
[06:34] <manchicken> Oh well.  I'm excited to see what we're doing for Gutsy.
[06:42] <manchicken> This looks like a great time to build a chroot.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Can You unload the libs that are loaded above the Chroot?
[06:43] <manchicken> I don't understand what you mean
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Nothing I was just thinking that I'm going up to my brothers' house for a week and he has windows
[06:46] <DaSkreech> I can bring my hard drives and a live cd and Chroot them
[06:46] <DaSkreech>  but then I'd still have all the live CD Libs in memory. Would be nice if I could purge them with out killing them one by one
[06:47] <manchicken> Sorry, could you repeat that?
[06:48] <manchicken> I closed my SSH session and that killed my IRC session
[06:48] <Jucato> irc-cide
[06:48] <manchicken> Yup.  so sad.
[06:48] <Jucato> :)
[06:48] <manchicken> Hey, I'm not the only one in the terminal anymore.
[06:52] <manchicken> Grr... this airport wifi won't work for building a chroot.
[06:55] <manchicken> Is it possible for me to register a spec?
[06:58] <manchicken> I had a specific feature I wanted to see go into adept for gutsy... can't figure out how to register a spec though.
[06:58] <manchicken> I guess I could just create a wiki page.
[07:05] <aaroncampbell> How long does it usually take for new releases of programs to make it into the repos?  For example, ktorrent released 2.1.4 (fixed major crashes) on April 23, I think Thunderbird 2 came out on Apr 17, and now Pidgin 2 (the new GAIM is out).  I'm wondering when we might see these (and I'm not sure which of these should be asked about here)
[07:09] <fdoving> aaroncampbell: when the SRU process is finished if someone requests it (SRU = Stabel Release Update)
[07:09] <fdoving> aaroncampbell: it'll take atleast 2 weeks i guess
[07:11] <manchicken> Hey!  I have an airplane!
[07:11] <manchicken> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuGutsyAdeptVersionLocking <-- w00t!  A spec that will probably get deferred or shot down!
[07:12] <manchicken> Okay, I'm gonna get off now.
[07:12] <manchicken> Time to get on a plane.
[07:57] <oliver> hello
[07:58] <oliver> I was wondering if I could help out with "bug triage"
[09:16] <jhutchins_lt> What is the proper procedure for requesting that a package be updated?
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> !maint audacity
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maint audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> !m audacity
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> Sorry, I must have my bots mixed up.
[09:52] <TheInfinity> hey
[09:52] <TheInfinity> i have a really funny bug
[09:53] <TheInfinity> when i click on "manage repos" in adept adept makes an apt-get update :D
[09:56] <TheInfinity> jhutchins_lt: you just ask here for the pakage :)