[12:14] <webvictim> hmm
[12:15] <scast> Specially when I start it and have a few tabs open.
[12:15] <chemist109> onlineapps: I'm not sure what's wrong.
[12:15] <onlineapps> k
[12:15] <onlineapps> well, maybe i should call optimum
[12:15] <chemist109> Do you have a dhcp server on that line?
[12:15] <onlineapps> well
[12:16] <cpk1> onlineapps: is the computer connected to a router?
[12:16] <webvictim> scast: it's certainly faster than konq on here
[12:16] <onlineapps> cpk1: yes, its connected wirelessly to a router
[12:16] <onlineapps> (linksys)
[12:16] <onlineapps> whats funny is that we have about 6 computers
[12:16] <onlineapps> 4 connect
[12:16] <chemist109> onlineapps: Is there a wire connected.  We're working on the wired connection.
[12:16] <onlineapps> 2 dont
[12:16] <onlineapps> no
[12:16] <cpk1> oh, then you wouldnt be using eth0 since thats the wired connection
[12:16] <onlineapps> both computers that dont connect are wireless
[12:16] <chemist109> Well, that explains that.
[12:16] <onlineapps> ok
[12:17] <onlineapps> let me try connecting via ath0
[12:17] <scast> webvictim: I guess it's definetely something on my side then.
[12:17] <cpk1> onlineapps: do lshw and pastebin the output of that
[12:17] <chemist109> onlineapps: It's much more difficult troubleshooting wireless.  Do you have the networkmanager running?
[12:17] <chemist109> knetworkmanager
[12:17] <onlineapps> chemist109: yes, knetworkmanager is running
[12:17] <onlineapps> btw, ath0 is enabled
[12:18] <chemist109> does it show the wireless networks?
[12:18] <chemist109> does it show your router's wireless network?
[12:18] <onlineapps> chemist109: yes
[12:18] <onlineapps> it even connects
[12:18] <onlineapps> sort of
[12:18] <onlineapps> it reaches 79%
[12:18] <onlineapps> then fails
[12:19] <chemist109> Are you using encryption? (WEP, WPA)
[12:20] <onlineapps> chemist109: no
[12:20] <onlineapps> lshw pastebin coming up
[12:21] <onlineapps> http://pastebin.ca/469797
[12:21] <onlineapps> was run as normal user, then run as super user
[12:22] <chemist109> onlineapps: I don't think I can help you any further.  I don't have anything with wireless, so I don't know much about using it.
[12:22] <chemist109> sorry :(
[12:23] <onlineapps> chemist109: thats ok
[12:23] <onlineapps> i may just call optimum
[12:23] <chemist109> you might try in #ubuntu.
[12:23] <onlineapps> thats a good idea!
[12:23] <onlineapps> thanks all
[12:23] <cpk1> onlineapps: so you want to use wifi0 not ath0
[12:23] <onlineapps> ok
[12:24] <cpk1> ok I guess he didnt want help...
[12:24] <nuu> hey guys, does anybody else experience sluggish transfer speed with KFtpGrabber ?
[12:24] <nuu> as opposed to, say, ncftp on the same machine ?
[12:25] <chemist109> going home -- bye all.
[12:29] <EADG> nuu No diff on my box between Kftp and lftp either across home network or from the web.
[12:30] <nuu> EADG: by "Kftp" you mean kftpgrabber ?
[12:30] <EADG> nuu: Yep.
[12:30] <nuu> okay, thanks
[12:31] <nuu> this is really weird, then
[12:31] <nuu> i get 40-50k/s off one site, whereas i get 400+k/s off the same site, just using ncftp
[12:31] <nuu> i wonder what kicks in
[12:32] <nuu> ah well, can wait until tomorrow ;)
[12:32] <nuu> nite all
[12:37] <killermach_> how do I get the kernel to use my entire 4GB RAM?
[12:38] <caos> hi
[12:40] <bonbonthejon> hi caos
[12:40] <realshiva> hi, do i need to install codecs for vlc ? when i want to play svcd'S with it?
[12:43] <dogatemycomputer> how much ram is it reporting if its short of the 4GB that you should have?
[12:43] <dogatemycomputer> (i'm not sure I can help.. i'm just curious)
[12:44] <realshiva> ok, my question was a bit dumb
[12:44] <realshiva> i had installed vlc
[12:44] <realshiva> apt-get install vlc
[12:44] <realshiva> do i need to install more than this to play svcd's ?
[12:45] <realshiva> (sry for my bad english its a bit rotten)
[12:45] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: I dont think so, does it work
[12:46] <realshiva> in detail i made this: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:46] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  .. you still there?
[12:47] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: have you tried playing the vcd?
[12:47] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: yep..
[12:47] <realshiva> yes, nothing heappens :-)
[12:47] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: 3.2GB
[12:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> I changed my icons in the panel, but is there any way to make them change in the system tray?
[12:48] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: I've never used a VCD, does it give a warning when you try to play the disc
[12:48] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  does this link help?
[12:49] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375853&page=2
[12:49] <realshiva> no, it seems that there is no film on it ... but on my dvd-player, it works
[12:50] <KamauRex> Hi all. Does anyone know how to solve the display problem since it locks my display at 640x480?
[12:50] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:50] <KamauRex> I'm using kubuntu 7.04
[12:50] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: sorry, I've never used VCD
[12:50] <realshiva> hm
[12:51] <KamauRex> I'm a novice at all this how do I run the sudo thingy
[12:51] <nalioth> KamauRex: sudo [command]  <enter>
[12:51] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: reading now
[12:51] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  otherwise I can't find anything to indicate it shouldn't recognize the full 4GB with the 64bit version of the OS..
[12:51] <nalioth> KamauRex: /msg ubotu kdesu  and /msg ubotu gksudo
[12:51] <dogatemycomputer> wait.. you are running the 64bit version.. right?
[12:51] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: open Konsole, and execute the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:52] <KamauRex> ok. Will try it now
[12:52] <realshiva> ahhh ... google is offline ...
[12:52] <realshiva> oh sry.
[12:52] <realshiva> it was my browser
[12:53] <KamauRex> says xserve.sorg not installed
[12:54] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ what version of the O/S r u running?
[12:54] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: xserver
[12:54] <sumguy231> KamauRex: xserver-xorg, rather.
[12:54] <KamauRex> ok
[12:54] <bonbonthejon> sumguy231: either should work
[12:54] <sumguy231> Why would xserve.sorg work?
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> sumguy231: xserver or xserver-xorg
[12:55] <sumguy231> Oh, I didn't see your comment up there. Sorry.
[12:55] <KamauRex> xserve.sorg not installed and no information available is the message
[12:55] <phpcode> Is it possible to run a file on user: root when im logged in on user: code. if yes: how?
[12:55] <realshiva> sudo ?#
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: explain that better, I don't understand
[12:56] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: you are entering the wrong package, its xserver-xorg, not xserve.sorg
[12:56] <flowingfire> Hi.  Question: Does Kubuntu have a built-in program to make PDF files?  I need to make a PDF from a JPEG
[12:57] <KamauRex> sweet. Now I have a grey screen with a blue background
[12:57] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: better resolution?
[12:58] <KamauRex> still reading the drivers. Do I just choose any?
[12:58] <sumguy231> No, choose one for the graphics card you have.
[12:58] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: what card do you have?
[12:58] <KamauRex> I have an integrated Intel Agp
[12:59] <KamauRex> I think it is 82801 chipset
[12:59] <dogatemycomputer> flowingfire I believe you need to install cups-pdf and configure it..  did you need a link?
[12:59] <bonbonthejon> flowingfire: there are ways you could do it, I dont know the best thoguh
[12:59] <flowingfire> Yeah, a link would be great!  Thanks
[12:59] <dogatemycomputer> flowingfire let me find it..
[12:59] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: look for intel, or i think vesa is the generic driver
[12:59] <phpcode> bonbonthejon: i have not the promition to edit and save a file(sources.list) on my user but i dont want to change user.
[12:59] <KamauRex> let me try the vesa since I cannot see the intel
[01:00] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: hit ctrl-f2, then type that in
[01:00] <dogatemycomputer> flowingfire try this.. if it doesn't work for you then just type "cups-pdf kubuntu" into google.  its a well covered topic.  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[01:00] <flowingfire> dogatemycomputer: Thank you so much!
[01:01] <KamauRex> do I just close the konsole after choosing?
[01:02] <KamauRex> I've hit enter
[01:02] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: it should get back to a prompt, then you can close it
[01:02] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: I currently have 64bit installed, and I see all 4GB.. but a 32bit install shows 3.2GB
[01:03] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: but the 64bit has issues with flash plugin and more things.. so I'm going back to the 32bit version
[01:04] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  if there isn't something specific you need then stick with the 32 bit version for now.
[01:04] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ i've personally never seen anyone that needed the 32bit version..
[01:04] <Daisuke_Ido> except maybe support for the full 4gb of ram?
[01:04] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ 32bit O/S packages can only recognize 3.25GB.. its not a limitation of linux..
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> !wmv
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:06] <sebaduo> hi
[01:06] <bonbonthejon> hi sebaduo
[01:07] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  I'm sorry.. I mean.. i've never met anyone that needed the 64bit version..
[01:08] <dogatemycomputer> Daisuke_Ido  i'm not sure i've ever met anyone who sucked up even 3GB of ram with a linux distro.. much less 4GB..  (not to say there aren't apps that need it.. but they are usually designed for 64bit O/Ss rather than 32bit)
[01:08] <ns8> hello
[01:08] <bonbonthejon> hi ns8
[01:08] <ns8> hola
[01:08] <dogatemycomputer> Daisuke_Ido for example.. if you're running a video editing operation then you may want a 64bit version for edting files.. but you're probably not going to use that same system to, for example, surf the web..
[01:09] <ns8> my eglish is bad
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> dogatemycomputer: exactly
[01:09] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: I have Athlon64 AM2 dualcore 3800+ so I thought I'd try 64bit OS, not sure I need it either
[01:09] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  there is a small performance improvement but doesn't do much good when many apps don't work well on it.
[01:10] <KamauRex> I'm going to set the resolution then restart my comp to see if it works
[01:10] <KamauRex> Thanks guys for all the help. Hope I can return the favour when I get good at this
[01:10] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: I've had a 4GB kernel for my mandriva workstation.. checking kernel.org now
[01:11] <phpcode> how do i login as root and edit sources.list?
[01:12] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: hit ctrl-f2, then run kdesu kate /etc/aptsources.list
[01:12] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  if you find another solution then please post it..
[01:12] <bonbonthejon> sorry, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <LHoT> beryl problems
[01:13] <LHoT> and #beryl is dead
[01:13] <LHoT> and if i hold my shift key to long, it logs me out
[01:14] <LHoT> :(
[01:14] <ns8> i've a averatec 7100 series and my network card is not recognized
[01:14] <ns8> helpe please
[01:14] <ns8> *help me please
[01:14] <bonbonthejon> ns8: wireless or ethernet
[01:14] <ns8> i have kubuntu i38
[01:14] <ns8> ethernet
[01:15] <ns8> note: I do not understand much the English
[01:16] <bonbonthejon> !es > ns8
[01:16] <KamauRex> Thanks again. Laters
[01:19] <ns8> yes i speack spanish
[01:19] <dogatemycomputer> LHoT that's interesting..
[01:19] <LHoT> it sucks too
[01:19] <sumguy231> ns8: Do an lspci and tell us if you see any mention of your card. And then do an ifconfig and see if there is an eth0 or eth1 interface.
[01:19] <bonbonthejon> is the bot not working??
[01:19] <realshiva> #ubuntu-es
[01:19] <sumguy231> But since there apparently is a Spanish channel, then never mind I suppose.
[01:19] <comosicus> i cant recevied ani file on my kopete
[01:20] <LHoT> !lol
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <comosicus> recived
[01:20] <LHoT> :|
[01:20] <dogatemycomputer> well.. shift-backspace logs you off.. right?
[01:20] <realshiva> ^^
[01:20] <bonbonthejon> !botsnack
[01:20] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:20] <LHoT> hmmmm
[01:20] <realshiva> does apt-get moo work on ubuntu?
[01:20] <LHoT> maybe im pressing backspace on accident
[01:20] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: yes
[01:21] <realshiva> cool
[01:21] <soulrider__> !es | ns8
[01:21] <ubotu> ns8: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:21] <bonbonthejon> soulrider__: ahhh, wrong pipe character
[01:22] <dogatemycomputer> LHoT  that's why I asked.. sounds like either you're keyboard is malfunctioning or you're hitting something else?  I think you can disable that combination in the accessibility options.. did you need help finding the keybindings menu?
[01:22] <ns8> what is a lspci?
[01:23] <sumguy231> It lists pci devices.
[01:23] <dogatemycomputer> ns8   http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_lspci.htm
[01:23] <ns8> but i have a laptop
[01:23] <ns8> my network card is integrated
[01:23] <dogatemycomputer> ns8  it still depends on a PCI bus..  even if that bus is.. well.. smaller :)
[01:23] <comosicus> or something else.......do you know a chat program wich has a voice chat propriety?
[01:24] <mzanfardino> I've recently installed kubuntu feisty and find now that a few applications are loading that I don't want to load each and everytime I log into the system.  Where can I find a list of the applications that get loaded automagically (I've already looking in .kde/Autostart, but the programs that are loading are not listed there)?
[01:24] <soulrider__> !ntfs-3g
[01:24] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:25] <soulrider__> ns8: lspci will list pci devices i think
[01:25] <sumguy231> mzanfardino: It could just be resuming your previous KDE session, check K-> System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager.
[01:25] <comosicus> i whant to know what chat do i must to use to be able to use a voice chat
[01:25] <dogatemycomputer> i learn so much by hanging around in here..
[01:26] <dogatemycomputer> lspci lists alot of information..
[01:26] <soulrider__> !es | ns8
[01:26] <ubotu> ns8: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:26] <dogatemycomputer> pretty much everything you would ever want to know about your PCI bus and everything attached..
[01:26] <comosicus> no shit doga
[01:27] <realshiva> do someone know something about a terminal connection about the serial port ?
[01:27] <dogatemycomputer> lol  .. hey.. i'm still learning..
[01:27] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450?page=1
[01:27] <dogatemycomputer> i find some of the most mundane stuff interesting right about now..
[01:28] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ thanks.. im reading now..
[01:29] <acidBURN> is there a link for setting up ati x600 vid card, for max performances under kubuntu?
[01:29] <sumguy231> acidBURN: I'm too lazy to link, but the Ubuntu Wiki has a good article on proprietary video drivers.
[01:30] <comosicus> i whant to know what chat do i must to use to be able to use a voice chat
[01:30] <realshiva> comosicus: teamspeak / skype ect.
[01:31] <comosicus> thanks man
[01:33] <LinkCanabico> Alarm hi did you get the USB hardrive working
[01:36] <naught101> anyone know how to get shockwave working in firefox?
[01:36] <naught101> ie. shockwave, not flash.
[01:36] <Mena> !shockwave
[01:36] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[01:39] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375853 post #2 shows "mem=4096M" as kernel parameter
[01:40] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ would you mind testing that and letting me know if it works?  I'd also be curious if there is any performance improvement?
[01:44] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  i'll be online tomorrow if you happen to be around
[01:48] <comosicus> that skype it is working just with skype users?
[01:49] <erstazi> does KDE have synaptic?
[01:49] <Cosmo_> anyone know of a good voice dictation software for ubuntu that works with open office?
[01:50] <baudthief> I know this might sound a bit silly, but should I install an antivirus?
[01:50] <comosicus> cosmo...what that means?
[01:51] <Search4Lancer> comosicus: talk into the mic and the compy types for you
[01:51] <Search4Lancer> erstazi: you can install synaptic in Adept in KDE
[01:52] <Search4Lancer> or, you know, however else
[01:52] <comosicus> aaaaa
[01:53] <Whiz2_> just a quick question...
[01:53] <Whiz2_> is Linux secure enough that I can safely assign it as DMZ on my network?
[01:54] <demon^eye> lo
[01:54] <erstazi> Whiz2_, what do you consider secure?
[01:54] <erstazi> Whiz2_, imho, windows is _insecure_
[01:54] <demon^eye> what is the system req for this linux?
[01:54] <Whiz2_> can hackers get into it as easily as windows?
[01:55] <erstazi> Whiz2_, no
[01:55] <comosicus> that skype it is working just with skype users?
[01:55] <demon^eye> lol in order to hack in linux u have to know more stuff than winXP
[01:56] <Whiz2_> like the username for example lol
[01:56] <demon^eye> what are the sys req to run kubuntu ?
[01:56] <sumguy231> demon^eye: What, do you want some system requirements for Kubuntu? What are you asking?
[01:56] <sumguy231> Oh, never mind.
[01:56] <sumguy231> You'll want at least 128MB of ram and probably at least a 900MHz processor.
[01:56] <demon^eye> sumguy231 : the min they req pal
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> nope, 256
[01:57] <demon^eye> 128 mb and 900...? they come close to windows lol
[01:57] <sumguy231> I've seen it scoot by on 128MB< just not well.
[01:57] <demon^eye> owww 256....even clooser
[01:57] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: i'm running a 400MHz CPU on mine
[01:57] <sumguy231> You will want 256 to run it effeciently. The CPU requirements can be lower.
[01:57] <demon^eye> Whiz2_ : u run 7.4 on 400 cpu?
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> right, its 256 mb for the live CD
[01:58] <Whiz2_> no 6.x
[01:58] <dogatemycomputer> the MINIMUM system requirements are 128MB and 110MB of RAM (assuming you don't want to do anything but install the OS)
[01:58] <demon^eye> 6X
[01:58] <sumguy231> If your system is really old, look at Xubuntu or try installing Fluxbox.
[01:58] <Whiz2_> i'm not upgrading
[01:58] <Whiz2_> or changing my OS version
[01:58] <Whiz2_> i'm satisfied with what i get from it
[01:58] <demon^eye> yeha Xubuntu is less harware sucker lol
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[01:58] <dogatemycomputer> I guess the question is..  what would you want to install it on that you're asking about the minimum requirements? :-D
[01:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:59] <demon^eye> Whiz2_ : u right
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> just realized that...
[01:59] <Whiz2_> demon^eye: i'm right about what?
[01:59] <demon^eye> about u satisfied syff whiz2
[01:59] <demon^eye> hehe
[01:59] <sumguy231> You'll also want about 2 GB of disk space, I believe. But that shouldn't be a problem. Why do you ask?
[01:59] <demon^eye> stuff
[02:00] <sumguy231> Oh.
[02:00] <Whiz2_> demon^eye: yeah why upgrade or change what I have if it does what I need it for? lol
[02:00] <demon^eye> wounder why using lame ass win lol
[02:00] <demon^eye> akk in kubuntu and faster and more secure
[02:00] <demon^eye> *all
[02:00] <demon^eye> anyone try <lol> install vista?
[02:01] <Whiz2_> my Kubuntu system is a dedicated web/email server
[02:01] <Whiz2_> demon^eye: i have win98, winXP, and Vista comps here too, but that is off topic
[02:01] <demon^eye> Whiz2_ : for such task ...linux ver aint much matter
[02:01] <demon^eye> lol Whiz2_
[02:01] <demon^eye> vista is lame ass
[02:02] <demon^eye> i try it...
[02:02] <Whiz2_> demon^eye: exactly, so i don't wanna upgrade to something more intense, or change my version, because i don't wanna have to set everything up again
[02:02] <demon^eye> they fuck around with user policy 2 much
[02:02] <sumguy231> We are getting kinda off topic here. Just to throw that out here.
[02:02] <demon^eye> lol
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> demon^eye: watch your language please
[02:02] <Whiz2_> well my topic is still in question... how easy is it for hackers to get into my linux installation? i'm asking because i have it completely exposed to the internet
[02:03] <demon^eye> any ops here? cant see the "@" stuff
[02:03] <demon^eye> hehe
[02:03] <Whiz2_> on a broadband connection no less
[02:03] <demon^eye> some ppl says...linux is more secure coz less use it
[02:03] <demon^eye> compre to MS stuff
[02:03] <demon^eye> *compare
[02:03] <sumguy231> Whiz2_: I'm sure you'll be fine. If you're concerned, use a firewall.
[02:03] <dogatemycomputer> there is a tool in *KUBUNTU* (still on topic here ;) ) that will do a port scan and tell you what's listening..
[02:04] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: doesn't a firewall have the potential to block out my services?
[02:04] <demon^eye> the problem with lunux...when u want to run specual progy like QBASE and some other uniqs...
[02:04] <LHoT> hello
[02:05] <LHoT> I need to add stuff to start at startup
[02:05] <LHoT> how would I go about doing that
[02:05] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: i need ppl to be able to get to my website via port 80, and my email via SMTP/POP ports
[02:05] <Whiz2_> not to mention the fact that I sshtunnel, and vnc into it myself
[02:05] <sumguy231> Whiz2_: Yes, if you told it to block those services. It might be more trouble than it's worth. I have a Debian server and I don't really bother with one myself.
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: what stuff?
[02:06] <dogatemycomputer> I don't use a firewall either..
[02:06] <Whiz2_> and you ppl don't get hacked?
[02:06] <sumguy231> Nope.
[02:06] <demon^eye> sumguy231 : what is your debian server for pal?
[02:06] <Whiz2_> i'mjust curious cuz i've never expose linux to the net like this
[02:06] <sumguy231> Personal use, and learning how to run a server. It's not important, hence the lack of a firewall.
[02:06] <Whiz2_> and my server has access to my other computers as well
[02:06] <LHoT> hey, any help?
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: i just asked you. what "Stuff" do you mean
[02:07] <sumguy231> KDE startup or system startup?
[02:07] <demon^eye> Whiz2_ : no wory expose linux to the net ...not much ppl try t fuck around with NIX box lol
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> because stuff not a specific pronoun
[02:07] <Whiz2_> please watch your language, this channel is supposd to be famil friendly
[02:07] <Whiz2_> family*
[02:07] <LHoT> okay then
[02:08] <demon^eye> sorry
[02:08] <demon^eye> :)
[02:08] <LHoT> kde startup
[02:08] <sumguy231> demon^eye: I get plenty of exploit attempts, but they're all for old software or software I'm not running anyway. And I try to maintain my hosts.deny.
[02:08] <demon^eye> just a way of spech
[02:08] <LHoT> need to add beryl-manager
[02:08] <sharms> dude my car is sooo fast
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sharms: haha
[02:08] <LHoT> okay
[02:08] <LHoT> also
[02:08] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: i'm guessing they would need to know my username/password to get in right?
[02:08] <LHoT> to get beryl working
[02:09] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: and whatever ports i use to connect
[02:09] <LHoT> i need to run some commands in terminal, how do I make it do that at startup
[02:09] <demon^eye> sumguy231 : thoos are most kiddos who run security progy scan the net...actuley seeking for MS lame ass pcs hehe
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: make a script, chmod the command, add the script to autostart.
[02:09] <Whiz2_> ok well my question was answered sufficiently. I'm out of here
[02:10] <LHoT> over my head there
[02:10] <nixternal> LHoT: what is the script for?
[02:10] <LHoT> one month linux experiance
[02:10] <demon^eye> will try to VM this kubuntu
[02:10] <LHoT> getting the window decorator to work
[02:10] <demon^eye> anyoone try VM kubuntu btw?
[02:10] <LHoT> it doesnt like to start when beryl does
[02:10] <sumguy231> LHoT: Just make a file called 'berylstart' or something, put '#!/bin/bash' for the first line, 'beryl-manager &' for the second line, and run 'chmod +x berylstart'.
[02:11] <demon^eye> admiral maybe u mate?
[02:11] <LHoT> ...
[02:11] <LHoT> again
[02:11] <LHoT> nvm
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: what commands do you run? pastebin them if there are a lot
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> demon^eye: i refuse to answer that question because its offtopic
[02:11] <LHoT> its only two
[02:12] <LHoT> and Im not sure if the second one would be needed for startup
[02:12] <sumguy231> What is it?
[02:12] <LHoT> hey admiral, cubs or sox?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: i'd just do "cd ~/.kde/Autostart && touch berylstart.sh && nano berylstart.sh"
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> then put the two commands in there
[02:13] <LHoT> k
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> can't remember the chmod command...
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: i think thats followed by chmod 777 berylstart.sh
[02:17] <demon^eye> Admiral_Chicago : are u OP here pal?
[02:17] <demon^eye> just wounder:)
[02:19] <demon^eye> what is kubuntu what we call activeX
[02:19] <demon^eye> ?
[02:22] <JOSE_KAY> hola
[02:23] <JOSE_KAY> necesito ayuda con beryl
[02:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[02:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:23] <JOSE_KAY> perdon,,,,,,,,gracias
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> de nada
[02:29] <demon^eye>    
[02:33] <chris_> can anyone offer a quick suggestion for how to get amarok under kubuntu to play mp3?
[02:34] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | chris_
[02:34] <ubotu> chris_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:34] <wolferine> my sound just stopped
[02:34] <wolferine> was listening to music, and it just died
[02:34] <Arwen> chris_, by the way, MP3 is ancient technology, use a modern format... geez..
[02:34] <chris_> arwen: I tried the howto, but I can't get the extracodecs package to install.
[02:34] <Arwen> chris_, and why is that?
[02:35] <chris_> arwen: tell apple that.
[02:35] <Arwen> chris_, Apple promotes the use of MPEG-4 AAC...
[02:35] <Arwen> which, incidentally, is NOT MP3 (MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3)
[02:35] <chris_> then why are the files on it from itunes in mpe?
[02:35] <chris_> mp3 rahter.
[02:35] <wolferine> now I get the error: "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard."
[02:35] <Arwen> chris_, err, iTunes uses DRM'ed AAC as the default format
[02:35] <Gamic> itunes songs are aac
[02:35] <SubOne> can someone please tell me why  the update manager just uninstalled my apache?
[02:35] <Arwen> and iTunes sucks....
[02:35] <chris_> er, no it doesn't.
[02:36] <Arwen> err, yes it does
[02:36] <chris_> or at least, that copy doesn't *points at the other pc*
[02:36] <Arwen> chris_, http://www.google.com/search?q=itunes+default+format&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[02:36] <chris_> maybe on a mac it does?
[02:36] <Gamic> there are drm free mp3 versions of some songs on itunes, but they are rare
[02:36] <Arwen> it doesn't.... anyway, that has nothing to do with MP3
[02:36] <Arwen> chris_, so, why can't you install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:37] <Andrepose> Hello, How do i get a network card running when it appears in lspci but not in ifconfig?
[02:37] <chris_> right, never mind.  you know, I wasn't looking for a) criticism of the format b) someone to lecture me on what format iTunes on my windows box produces (defaulted to mp3, aac as an option as it happens, I just checked), nor was I really looking to have a google search about itunes tossed at me.
[02:38] <Arwen> Andrepose, get some better drivers?
[02:38] <Arwen> chris_, that's what I just said.... why can't you install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:38] <Andrepose> i have two of the same card in my machine.  THe first one works eth0 the second one I can't remember how to set it up..
[02:38] <chris_> arwen: leave me be thanks.
[02:38] <Arwen> huh, have a nice day then....
[02:39] <chris_> if anyone else has an answer as to what repository might have the extracodecs in it (I get a "no installation candidate"), that'd be appreciated.
[02:39] <Gamic> chris_ it's in universe, I believe
[02:39] <Arwen> !repositories | chris_
[02:39] <ubotu> chris_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:39] <jtca> Hi! How to install gimp in kubuntu?
[02:39] <chris_> gamic: thanks! :)
[02:39] <Arwen> chris_, I'm only gonna point that out once, if you're too arrogant to listen to my advice, then god die already
[02:40] <jtca> I've already tried sudo apt-get install gimp...
[02:40] <chris_> arrogance is a 2-sided issue.  you're condescending and confrontational.  if you worked in tech support at any of the places I have, you'd be canned for answering questions like that.
[02:40] <wolferine> jtca, and what happened?
[02:40] <SubOne> Does anyone know why the update manager just uninstalled apache2, php4, and a few other things? When I canceled the uninstall for php4 an install for php 5 popped up n the list so i decided to cancel my changes and update normally, but now i have no apache at all. Obviously I can solve this by reinstalling, but why has this happened in the first place?
[02:40] <chris_> you're also ignored.  thanks again, gamic. :)
[02:40] <Arwen> jtca, that is indeed the right command, did you do "apt-get update" first?
[02:41] <Gamic> chris_ arwen, leave it please. not needed ;)
[02:41] <wolferine> SubOne, you must have set it to uninstall them, at some point
[02:41] <wolferine> not realizing it
[02:41] <wolferine> stop asking why it did it, and just reinstall
[02:42] <kane_> Hey i have a network that should be 100mbps capable is there a reason that an internal network transfer would be going much, much slower?
[02:42] <jtca> arwen: the package is missing.
[02:42] <Arwen> kane_, overhead
[02:42] <Arwen> jtca, what's the exact error message?
[02:42] <kane_> like it would reduce the speed about 90%?
[02:43] <SubOne> wolferine: I never did and I never would
[02:43] <kane_> thats a good bit of overhead huh?
[02:43] <Arwen> kane_, bad link? a really crappy server software?
[02:43] <wolferine> ok SubOne just install it again
[02:43] <Gamic> kane_ : there are loads of reasons, bottle necks could be occuring at any point in your system and your network and without a detailed diagram of what you have we couldn't even come close to saying for certain.
[02:43] <kane_> its just 2 ubuntu boxes right next to each other on an with an ssh transfer
[02:43] <jtca> arwen: sorry, but the message is in portuguese, but the main idea is the package isn't there.
[02:43] <SubOne> wolferine: I have had problems in the past with packages mysteriously getting uninstalled without the updater too
[02:44] <kane_> and a router, of course.
[02:44] <wolferine> SubOne, I am sure you have, but to resolve your issues, maybe just try and install it
[02:44] <Arwen> jtca, hmm, run "apt-get update"... if that doesn't work, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:44] <Gamic> kane_, what speed are you getting?
[02:45] <wolferine> lol
[02:45] <kane_> 1.6 MB/S
[02:47] <jtca> arwen: Ahahahahahaha! pastebin query failure! I'm a loser!
[02:47] <SubOne> wolferine: I'm just a bit tired of everyone telling me how to fix the symptom if you know what i mean
[02:47] <Arwen> jtca, hehe, try http://pastebin.ca then
[02:47] <vit_> KUBUNTU.ES
[02:47] <mardi> mmm coffee
[02:48] <wolferine> SubOne, you might not know it, but I know exactly what you mean
[02:48] <jtca> arwen: http://pastebin.ca/470020
[02:49] <Arwen> jtca, hmm, I can't see anything wrong.... ah well, if it doesn't work later, go over to #ubuntu and complain
[02:50] <jtca> I can't complain. Free software is a bless. I will ask and suggest.
[02:50] <jtca> arwen: thanks a lot!
[02:50] <vit_> I NEED TO SPEAK SPANISH
[02:51] <mardi> !es | vit_
[02:51] <ubotu> vit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:54] <drkns> hello friends
[02:54] <drkns> i need help
[02:55] <chris_> greetings
[02:55] <drkns> i am tryint to compile pygtk
[02:55] <drkns>  and its giving me this error sayin i have both glib 2.0 smtg and 2.13 smtg so i should get rid of the old version
[02:56] <drkns> the problem is when i try to uninstall the old glib the whole system is uninstalled also
[02:56] <drkns> how can i make the compilation see the correct version of glib?
[02:57] <drkns> anyone?
[02:58] <drkns> or is there a way that i can update db of adept so that i can see the glib 2.13.0 installation that i can remove?
[03:00] <drkns> noone?
[03:00] <mardi> if no help here drkns, maybe try in #linuxhelp or #pygtk
[03:01] <mardi> if no help here drkns, maybe try in #linuxhelp or #pygtk
[03:03] <dsmith_> :)
[03:06] <kane_> Huh, the crazy thing about this sorta slow network transfer is that i can open up 2 at the same time and they both cap out at like 1.6
[03:07] <mardi> possible setting in ssh?
[03:07] <mardi> <-- newb
[03:07] <tabr> hi! everyone! Help me please! I can`t check for errors partition (need to re-install GRUB[i think] ) boot from LiveCD. Ubuntu 7.04[herd5] . When type #fsck. i see:fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006). and thats all, that he do...
[03:13] <tinin> tabr get the stable release
[03:13] <tinin> not herd
[03:18] <orient2000> Hi! I am trying to install crossover and cannot run install-crossover-pro-5.0.3.sh in konsole.
[03:18] <orient2000> I can not run any .sh script at all.
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: what happens when you try?
[03:19] <orient2000> I can not run any .sh script at all in konsole. How do I run scripts?
 yeah, a dowload that 'stable' release - CD,Althernative,DVD,CD[x64]  - thay all can't see CD-drive after start, - i install HERD5, and upgrade...hmm..i upgrade to realise?
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: Generally, ./script-name.sh, from the directory it's in
[03:21] <orient2000> bash: install-crossover-pro-5.0.3.sh: command not found
[03:22] <tinin_> tabr no clue
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: sounds like you need to set the executable bit.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> chmod +x install-<tab>
[03:23] <matrix__> does any body of you use joost?
[03:23] <tabr>  <tinin>  and i 'kill' GRUB...found how to repair...but when mount /dev/sda8 - it's EMPTY....and i need the way how to repair filesystem....i think...
[03:24] <orient2000> in setup of sesion there is bash. Shuld I type sh ?
[03:25] <tinin_> maybe you coul try some software to save things like photorec
[03:25] <tinin_> if you need to
[03:25] <tinin_> and then a partitioning tool
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: I'm not sure I understand
[03:26] <tinin_> tabr http://www.cgsecurity.org/
 thanks...i'll try...
[03:31] <Andrepose> Can someone help me with my network card problem?
[03:32] <Andrepose> I have two network cards on my ubuntu server with the same driver, one comes up at boot and the other one doesn't though it's not plugged in....
[03:32] <N6REJ> anyone got any idea what would cause ascii graphics characters to be shown instead of plain text during bootup?
[03:32] <N6REJ> it MIGHT be related to a partial vmware-server install
[03:32] <Andrepose> how do i bring it up.
[03:32] <Andrepose> ?
[03:33] <levon> uplink here?
[03:33] <Andrepose> it appears in lspci. But not in ifconfig,,,
[03:39] <mike> Can someone help me with installing Java? i dont understand how to do it, and a website isnt going to help me
[03:41] <mike> hello someone?
[03:42] <tinin_> thanx for my feity cds they arrivred today
[03:43] <tinin_> ubuntuguide mike
[03:44] <tinin_> or just search java in the pakage manager you use
[03:44] <mike> Package Manager?
[03:44] <mardi> are you using linux mike?
[03:45] <mike> Kubunto
[03:45] <tinin_> in add/remove programs
[03:45] <mike> **Kubuntu
[03:45] <mike> Edgy 6.10
[03:45] <wimpies> Hi all, I read somewhere that Gtk+ allows changing menu accelerators by hovering the menu and setting a new value.  I tried this but in KDE it does not work.  What might I be doing wrong ?
[03:45] <BellaireLinuxN3r> use Adept
[03:45] <phpcode> How to get dualscreen? (i have the screens)
[03:45] <orient2000> Thanks it is working chmod +x
[03:46] <mardi> mike: hit the K in the bottom right, goto System then Adept Package Manager
[03:46] <pbang> Hey all, I'm trying to test different options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  How can I restart x/kde to test changes?
[03:46] <mardi> mike: err, the K on the bottom left...
[03:46] <BellaireLinuxN3r> the K system menu
[03:46] <mardi> that's it!
[03:46] <tinin_> dont be cruel
[03:47] <mike> okay then what
[03:47] <mardi> tinin_: me?
[03:47] <BellaireLinuxN3r> go to System
[03:47] <tinin_> search there
[03:47] <BellaireLinuxN3r> then Adept Package Manager
[03:47] <BellaireLinuxN3r> it should be the top most option, the one with an icon shaped like an open box
[03:47] <mike> theres like, alot of different choices for java
[03:48] <mike> I just want java so i can install Limewire or Frostwire
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> get the Runtime
[03:48] <mike> runtime?
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> there's an SDK
[03:48] <mike> whats that?
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> it's for developers
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> you want the package
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> that would give you just the enviroment
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> I don't know exactly the name tho
[03:49] <mike> So under the search bar type in Runtime Java?
[03:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[03:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> It should be the JRE
[03:49] <phpcode> How to get dualscreen?
[03:49] <ubuntu_> Hello I am somewhat new to linux and have a question about multiple installs.
[03:49] <mike> Nothing came up
[03:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> try JRE
[03:50] <ubuntu_> Is it possible for me to install 4 versions of linux with one /boot folder and swap ?
[03:50] <mike> i see alot of different options
[03:50] <BellaireLinuxN3r> okay
[03:50] <ubuntu_> really?
[03:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike, the JRE recent version should be 6.0
[03:51] <mike> Sun Java(TM)Runtime Environment(JRE) 6
[03:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[03:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> that is the one
[03:51] <melkor> I have a problem with how my hard drive is mounted.  It is being mounted as sda1
[03:51] <mardi> on mine it's called libgcj-common
[03:51] <ubuntu_> did anyone see my question?
[03:51] <mardi> dunno if that's what mike needs tho
[03:52] <mike> so right-click "request Install"?
[03:52] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[03:52] <mike> then apply changes right?
[03:52] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[03:53] <mike> okay its downloading
[03:53] <fsilva> en espaol?
[03:53] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: saw your question, I think you can but only with the alternate cd
[03:53] <mardi> !es | fsilva
[03:53] <ubotu> fsilva: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:54] <melkor> I am going to past the mount msg I get
[03:54] <fsilva> gracias
[03:54] <melkor> ' /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)'
[03:54] <ubuntu_> what is an alternate cd?
[03:55] <melkor> does anybody think that could lead to problems?
[03:55] <fulat2k> i'm amazed how much beryl has improved in 7.04 :)
[03:55] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: it's for special installs, like LVM or if you're a linux expert and you can work the command line
[03:55] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: With the live cd you probably can't get that config
[03:56] <melkor> hono mba daa
[03:56] <melkor> jaa rama
[03:57] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: I'm not an expert with the alternate cd; you also risk having problems along the line if packages fail to install, something goes horribly wrong, etc, etc
[03:58] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: personally, I would just go with seperate partitions for each install if your hard drive is large enough
[03:58] <mike> okay now i have Sun Java 6.0 installed
[03:58] <ubuntu_> i was reading this article do you think this will work? http://linuxgazette.net/issue76/tag/5.html
[03:58] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: and then use grub to choose each individual install
[03:58] <fulat2k> you can always install using a root partition of prolly 10-15G and then create LVM partitions after that.
[03:58] <mike> how do i install frostwire
[03:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: heh, not an expert at that, however
[03:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: u might need to manually download the package and then install it
[03:59] <mike> oh
[04:00] <mike> is there any real easy way to install it?
[04:00] <mike> I hate, i mean seriosuly hate the terminal
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> just download the package
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> once it's done
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> right click
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> and then select Action > Install
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> no need for the terminal :)
[04:00] <mike> okay good
[04:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: probably
[04:02] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: but if you want windows on there, make sure you install windows first
[04:02] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: otherwise you won't be able to boot to Linux since the windows boot loader overwrites grub
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i have 3 on there seperate atm w/ windows but the /boot partitions eat a bit of space
[04:03] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: as I said, not really an expert on this kinda config
[04:03] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: if you know your terminal commands well and such, go ahead and try it
[04:04] <ubuntu_> k
[04:04] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: download the alternate cd tho
[04:04] <mike> when i download ikt
[04:04] <mike> *it, where does it go?
[04:04] <mike> i cant find it anywhere
[04:04] <ubuntu_> what is the alternate cd and where is it bell?
[04:04] <BellaireLinuxN3r> go to the ubuntu download page
[04:04] <mike> Kate opens, and it says it cant save it because a binery code is corrupt
[04:05] <tabr> tell me please why a can't enything im my mount root partition?...
[04:05] <dsmith_> if I have shell script, whats the best way to create a shortcut for it?
[04:05] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: scroll down to the bottom of the page
[04:06] <BellaireLinuxN3r> click the checkbox that says "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."
[04:06] <BellaireLinuxN3r> and then it should download the iso for you
[04:06] <joshua__> ubuntu_: hold down shift when clicking
[04:06] <mike> Ubuntu Download page?
[04:06] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh not you mike
[04:07] <mike> oh
[04:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: download it again
[04:07] <mike> so what do i do?
[04:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: save to dekstop
[04:07] <mike> how do i save it to my desktop? it dosent ask me like windows
[04:07] <joshua__> if kate tries to open it, hold down shift.  this will automatically force you to save it.
[04:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: right click, save as
[04:07] <intelikey> can anyone tell me what is going on here ?   http://nationalreview.com    i get a good page until it finishes loading and then it goes blank.    ???
[04:08] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: make sure you get the ubuntu/debian download
[04:08] <intelikey> using the word "good" very liberally
[04:08] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: the extension should be .deb
[04:08] <mike> lol duh save as... lol
[04:09] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Does anybody in here have problems with Kubuntu shutting down? As in, the system halts, but the computer doesn't *physically* shut down?
[04:09] <mike> umm im confused
[04:10] <mike> on my desktop it says "php" thats what the file is
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[04:10] <mike> when i right-click and under actions, there isnt a install option
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> okay, you're downloading the webpage...
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hmm
[04:10] <mike> oh
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> when you click on the download button
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> what does the browser do?
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> is it Firefox or Konqueror?
[04:11] <intelikey> BellaireLinuxN3r kernel issue.  the system call for a power down is not the same on all bios's (bioi ?)   you may have one of the few that need a different system call.
[04:11] <mike> Konqueror
[04:11] <mike> should i try it with Firefox
[04:12] <BellaireLinuxN3r> intelikey: thanks. Is there a way for me to change the system call? Actually, I was thinking the same thing, my BIOS is 7 years old and the hardware is severely outdated.
[04:13] <mardi> i think mike is having a Kate bug I had before, where Kate tries to open certain file types, it's really annoying
[04:14] <intelikey> BellaireLinuxN3r i'm not sure if it requires a recompile or not.  you can ask in  ##linux  ##linuxhelp or #kernel     if no one in here can answer.   there is also  #ubuntu  seeing that that is not kde specific
[04:14] <mike> i dont understand why it cant be as easy as windows to install somthing
[04:14] <dsmith_> yay I figured it out
[04:14] <joshua__> mike: you could download the torrent
[04:14] <BellaireLinuxN3r> intelikey: thanks!
[04:15] <intelikey> mike it is.  maybe more so.    it depends on what you are trying to install    (both os's)
[04:15] <mike> oh
[04:17] <mike> ive always had trouble installing somthing...in fact i've had it for 3 months and still never dowloaded one program
[04:21] <mike> BellaireLinuxN3r: i downloaded Frostwire and the file is a deb. file, and when i right click and go to actions, installing isnt an optnio
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hmmm
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> really?
[04:21] <mike> yeah
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> I must be thinking of fonts or something
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> try just opening it
[04:22] <mike> Ark opens up
[04:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hmmm
[04:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> huh weird
[04:22] <joshua__> ok, i want to send private messages, does anybody know how to register?  the site's instructions are way to hard to understand.
[04:23] <BellaireLinuxN3r> joshua__: do this "/msg nickserv <password>" in your terminal window, not in a channel
[04:24] <joshua__> no such file or directory
[04:24] <BellaireLinuxN3r> joshua__: the IRC client terminal window :)
[04:24] <mike> BellaireLinuxN3r: Okay i see, it says Kubuntu Package Menu, and then install...
[04:24] <BellaireLinuxN3r> try that
[04:25] <intelikey> mike if the pointy clicky thingy doesn't do it. use the real linux.    sudo dpkg -i filename.deb     but did you look in the repos first?    :)
[04:25] <intelikey> !info frostwire
[04:25] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:25] <mike> but when the window comes up
[04:25] <mike> Home 	Home 	Downloads 	Downloads 	Community 	Community 	Development 	Development 	Support 	Support
[04:25] <mike> 
[04:25] <mike> Keep our project development alive!
[04:25] <mike> 
[04:25] <intelikey> guess not.
[04:25] <joshua__> it says it's already registered
[04:25] <mike> Okay that didnt work
[04:26] <mike> intelikey: Repos?"
[04:26] <joshua__> do i need a different name?
[04:26] <intelikey> i just checked.
[04:26] <BellaireLinuxN3r> joshua__: yeah then you probably need to change your name
[04:27] <jrick> ok, that it?
[04:27] <intelikey> !repos | mike information about repositories,
[04:27] <ubotu> mike information about repositories,: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:27] <BellaireLinuxN3r> jrick: then do the same command I told you and see if that would register you
[04:28] <jrick> I think so, now what? test to see if it works?
[04:28] <mike> Umm....using the sudo dpkg -i filename.deb dosent work
[04:28] <intelikey> mike     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:28] <intelikey> what error ?
[04:28] <mike> yea
[04:28] <BellaireLinuxN3r> jrick: try logging off and logging in and see if it identifies you
 Umm....using the sudo dpkg -i filename.deb dosent work <<<< <intelikey> what error ?
[04:29] <jrick> ok
[04:29] <jrick> I think it worked
[04:29] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah, I think it did
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> otherwise freenode would boot you off and give you some guest nick
[04:30] <jrick> it said on the site about emailing???
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> you should register your email so that if you lose your password you can get it back
[04:30] <jrick> oh.
[04:30] <mike> no such file or directory
[04:32] <mike> intelikey: No such file or directory
[04:32] <intelikey> path.
[04:33] <mike> what>
[04:33] <mike> *What?
[04:33] <intelikey> i.e. you saved it to your desktop not to your home.
[04:33] <mike> right
[04:33] <intelikey> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/<filename>.deb
[04:33] <intelikey> notice the path  ^
[04:34] <intelikey> mike tab key to complete file names
[04:34] <nirmal> hi all
[04:34] <mike> omg im soo lost
[04:35] <SCOTroll> Hi, my name is Darl McBride.
[04:35] <jrick> What????
[04:35] <mike> isnt there any easier way?
[04:36] <intelikey> SCOTroll  let me guess you are looking for a kickban ?
[04:36] <SCOTroll> No. :(
[04:36] <SCOTroll> Please not that. :(
[04:36] <intelikey> k  we'll see
[04:37] <SCOTroll> I am a friendly troll, I can coexist and help the newbies.
[04:37] <premier_> !HFS?
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hfs? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <premier_> !HFS+
[04:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:37] <premier_> can ubuntu read HFS+ partitions by default, or do I have to install extra programs?=
[04:38] <SCOTroll> premier_: man mount
[04:38] <intelikey> mike easier than opening a konsole and typing in   >>>  sudo dpkg -i */*.deb  <<<  ?
[04:38] <mike> it dosent work
[04:38] <intelikey> what error ?
[04:39] <mike> it says either No such file or command or some other error
[04:39] <SCOTroll> premier_: Have you tried mount -t hfsplus?
[04:39] <jrick> mike: >>> cd Desktop <<< before trying to install.
[04:39] <mike> cd Desktop?
[04:39] <jrick> yeah
[04:39] <mike> whats that?
[04:39] <SCOTroll> Evil #ubuntu operators kickbanned me. :(
[04:40] <intelikey> :)
[04:40] <premier_> well, I don't have the hard drive yet (its a usb drive) and I have to move my laptop to get it, and I can't connect to the school's wireless, install programs, look up websites.  So I want to make sure it'll work now
[04:40] <premier_> its not an easy laptop to move
[04:40] <intelikey> same folks have ops here troll
[04:40] <jrick> then sudo dpkg -i (filename).deb
[04:40] <SCOTroll> premier_: Have you tried anything in a shell?
[04:40] <mike> i dont understand what a flippen cd Desktop is
[04:41] <SCOTroll> intelikey: Oh no. :\
[04:41] <mike> why cant you just double click it and install it like windows
[04:41] <jrick> cd - Change directory
[04:41] <premier_> SCOTroll: oh yeah, I've been using kubuntu since November, so I'm getting the hang of the command line
[04:41] <jrick> sudo - Administrator privelages
[04:41] <intelikey> jrick me thinks he's not ready for linux.
[04:41] <jrick> dpkg -i >> install
[04:41] <SCOTroll> rm -rf / does NOT make your computer faster.
[04:41] <SCOTroll> Don't try it.
[04:42] <SCOTroll> premier_: Are you familiar with mount?
[04:42] <jrick> what's the file name of the .deb file your trying to install?
[04:42] <intelikey> SCOTroll cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda  will  :)
[04:42] <jrick> and where is it? the Desktop?
[04:43] <premier_> SCOTroll: a little
[04:43] <premier_> SCOTroll: should I laugh that Mac OS X can't load up FAT32 or EXT3?
[04:43] <SCOTroll> premier_ mount -t hfsplus is your clue. Now go read man mount.
[04:43] <mike> Jrick: are you talking to me?
[04:43] <jrick> yeah
[04:43] <SCOTroll> Yes, Mac OS X sucks.
[04:44] <jennifer_> Anyone know who to fix incompatible pointer type errors?
[04:44] <intelikey> premier_ feisty ?
[04:44] <premier_> yeah
[04:44] <SCOTroll> Mac OS X for writing fun viruses.
[04:44] <intelikey> premier_ and what are you trying to mount ?
[04:45] <premier_> according to man: The file system  types  which are currently supported include: ...hfs, hpfs ...
[04:45] <premier_> HFS+
[04:45] <mike> im trying to install Frostwire
[04:45] <jrick> frostwire.deb ?
[04:45] <mike> yes
[04:45] <SCOTroll> Mac OS Classic was so much better, and cooperative multitasking was fun.
[04:45] <intelikey> premier_ and where is this hfs+fs ?
[04:45] <jrick> that's EXACTLY what the files called? including caps?
[04:46] <SCOTroll> intelikey: On a USB key.
[04:46] <premier_> its an apple format.  A friend of mine has a usb drive
[04:46] <mike> hold on
[04:46] <premier_> SCOTroll: its not a key, its a full sized drive
[04:47] <intelikey> premier_ ok you are probably pointing mount at the wrong device.   sudo fdisk -l     and/or  cat /proc/partitions    see if you can identify the device node
[04:47] <jrick> where did you save it? Desktop or Home?
[04:47] <mike> Desktop
[04:47] <SCOTroll> premier_: Tell your friend to ease up on the tea, it is harming his ability to make objective decisions.
[04:47] <mike> dpkg: error processing frostwire-4.13.1.7.i586.deb (--install):
[04:47] <mike>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:47] <mike> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:47] <mike>  frostwire-4.13.1.7.i586.deb
[04:47] <mike> thats what it said when i put that in the terminal
[04:48] <jrick> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/frostwire-4.13.1.7.i586.deb
[04:48] <jrick> then enter password
[04:48] <mike> Unpacking replacement frostwire
[04:48] <mike> Setting up frostwire (4.13.1)
[04:48] <mike> it didnt ask for a password
[04:48] <jrick> ok
[04:48] <mike> when it got to Setting up frostwire it stopped
[04:49] <jrick> what did it say?
[04:49] <intelikey> "Unpacking replacement frostwire"  already installed it one time...
[04:49] <mike> Unpacking replacement frostwire ...
[04:49] <mike> Setting up frostwire (4.13.1) ...
[04:49] <mike> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[04:49] <kgx> hey. i accidently deleted /etc/mono/*. how can i force apt-get (or adept) to recreate those folders? i cant even run mono anymore. i tried reinstalling but didnt help
[04:49] <premier_> SCOTroll: you mean my freind who uses mac?  I think he's learned his lesson.  Its a mactel, so he thought he would just run windows on it, but as it turns out, windows + macintosh= world's least stable operating system
[04:49] <jrick> your good.
[04:49] <mike> now what do i do?
[04:49] <jrick> now run frostwire from the terminal
[04:49] <jrick> just "frostwire"
[04:49] <intelikey> kgx reinstall the app responsable
[04:49] <SCOTroll> Tip: If you use a root account you never have to worry about permissions. Just like in the good old days of DOS, except for damned protected mode.
[04:50] <jrick> or check your KMenu
[04:50] <intelikey> s/app/package/
[04:50] <SCOTroll> DOS was all an operating system needed to be.
[04:50] <intelikey> hehhe
[04:50] <intelikey> in 1073 maybe
[04:51] <mike> okay its on the K menu
[04:51] <mike> but when i click on it to open, it wont open up
[04:51] <mike> ot has "Frostwire" on the menu of stuff that is running, but its just loading
[04:51] <mike> then it just goes away
[04:51] <jrick> try typing frostwire into the Konsole
[04:52] <mike> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[04:52] <intelikey> SCOTroll here's a tip for you.   if you irc as root you should always idle in #debian
[04:52] <jrick> ok
[04:52] <jrick> just a sec
[04:52] <mike> mmk
[04:52] <SCOTroll> I IRC in Windows Vista.
[04:52] <intelikey> close enough
[04:53] <Dragnslcr> Vista already has IRC support?
[04:53] <premier_> Dragnslcr: lol
[04:53] <SCOTroll> Dragnslcr: Yes, it supports RFC 1459.
[04:53] <jeffto> hi
[04:53] <SCOTroll> You just need a third party plug in.
[04:53] <SCOTroll> Such as mIRC.
[04:54] <SCOTroll> Telnet works too.
[04:54] <jrick> I'm trying to find the java package now
[04:54] <intelikey> mirc is now a plugin   hmmm
[04:54] <mike> oh okay
[04:54] <premier_> IIRC, ubuntu does these things out of the box, but maybe I'm forgetting myself
[04:54] <jeffto> I need some help to setup kaudiocreator to extract mp3 form CD
[04:54] <jrick> if you want java 1.5
[04:54] <jeffto> How I install the mp3 decoder?
[04:54] <intelikey> !java
[04:54] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:54] <jrick> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:55] <jrick> or for java 6
[04:55] <jrick> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:55] <SCOTroll> The questions people ask here are hilarious.
[04:55] <jrick> you probably want a fast connection.
[04:55] <jrick> it's a lot of stuff
[04:55] <intelikey> :)
[04:56] <jrick> I use 6 (newer), but 5 is probably better supported
[04:56] <SCOTroll> It makes me wonder if they read documentation. I'm sure they do.
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> SCOTroll: at least the second half of your nick is accurate.
[04:56] <mike> whatever i need to get it working
[04:56] <jrick> either /should/ work
[04:56] <premier_> maybe download it directly from java.sun.com
[04:56] <mike> i just got Sun java 6
[04:56] <jrick> from the command I just told you?
[04:56] <kgx> intelikey: i tried reinstalling it, but it would recreate that directory
[04:57] <ubuntu_> hola
[04:57] <SCOTroll> Just because I live under a bridge, it doesn't make me Welch.
[04:57] <mike> no
[04:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:57] <jrick> try that instead, your settings might not be right.
[04:57] <Dragnslcr> Here's an odd question. If I have wav file that gets butchered by nearly ever program (Amarok, Gaim), but plays fine in XChat, is there any way to convert it to an ogg that will play correctly in any app?
[04:57] <intelikey> kgx  grep /etc/mono /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[04:57] <SCOTroll> Dragnslcr: Yes.
[04:57] <mike> i did
[04:57] <ubuntu_> sorry i dont speak english.  somebody know reset the kde for konsole?
[04:57] <mike> it said i Installed it
[04:58] <jrick> any luck?
[04:58] <mike> but frostwire still wont upen
[04:58] <jrick> huh.
[04:58] <mike> do i maybe have to restart my pc?
[04:58] <jeffto> ubuntu, erase your .kde folder
[04:58] <jrick> I doubt it.
[04:58] <intelikey> Dragnslcr wav2ogg
[04:58] <SCOTroll> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should reset your window manager, ubuntu.
[04:58] <SCOTroll> Not sure that is what you mean.
[04:58] <jrick> linux isn't like windows like that
[04:58] <mike> oh
[04:59] <jrick> try typing java in at the Konsole
[04:59] <intelikey> Dragnslcr package vorbis-tools or something like that supplies it
[04:59] <mike> umm a long list comes up
[04:59] <intelikey> Dragnslcr audacity can do such things graphically
[05:00] <SCOTroll> jrick: Neither is Windows. Windows 98 isn't the most recent version anymore. The new Windows Server can even patch the kernel without rebooting.
[05:00] <kgx> intelikey: thanks..seems to be some stuff in there :)
[05:00] <intelikey> wonder who they stole that from SCOTroll
[05:00] <SCOTroll> I hardly ever reboot Windows Vista.
[05:00] <jrick> like instructions on how to run a java program?
[05:01] <SCOTroll> intelikey: If it isn't patented, there isn't a problem.
[05:01] <jrick> troll: not with updates.
[05:01] <intelikey> kgx that will list the packages that affect the dir in question
[05:01] <mike> -disableassertions[:<packagename>...|:<classname>] 
[05:01] <mike>                   disable assertions
[05:01] <mike>     -esa | -enablesystemassertions
[05:01] <mike>                   enable system assertions
[05:01] <mike>     -dsa | -disablesystemassertions
[05:01] <mike>                   disable system assertions
[05:01] <intelikey> kgx reinstall them all
[05:01] <mike> jibberish like that
[05:01] <SCOTroll> mike: **** off, I'm trying to talk.
[05:01] <intelikey> SCOTroll me thinks that's backwards but everwhat
[05:02] <kgx> intelikey: thanks :) little bit of a noob here, but how do i do it? i presume its not with apt-get
[05:02] <mike> screw you Scotroll, too bad i dont care about you
[05:02] <SCOTroll> Congratulations, java is installed.
[05:02] <intelikey> kgx give me a sec.
[05:02] <mike> jrick: what do i do?
[05:03] <jrick> i'm not quite sure.  Anybody else have ideas?
[05:03] <intelikey> kgx dump that list into a varable or file and plug it into      for Q in $yourVar ;do apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $Q ;done
[05:04] <SCOTroll> Not trying to troll, but it seems this channel has become a replacement for reading documentation.
[05:04] <kgx> intelikey: thanks man.
[05:05] <intelikey> example of the dump & plug     yourVar=$(basename `grep <blah balh>`)      <<< any way you can get there is fine.
[05:05] <SCOTroll> If this were #openbsd, these questions wouldn't be tolerated.
[05:06] <intelikey> possably grep (blah  balh) > LIST ; nano LIST
[05:06] <jrick> mike: ask for help on the community forum from frostwire's website
[05:07] <intelikey> if this was unix you would already have surpassed your troll quota too
[05:07] <Yorokobi> The nick alone would have been above tolerance
[05:07] <SCOTroll> I act like an ass on EFnet #freebsd without any problems.
[05:07] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- audacity doesn't give me any sound when I play the file
[05:08] <jrick> mike: i'm stuck on what to do next
[05:08] <SCOTroll> Anyway, did anyone notice SCOX stock went up four cents today?
[05:08] <intelikey> Dragnslcr then it's the output device selected in audacity's menu
[05:08] <intelikey> Dragnslcr try selecting arts   and alternatively  alsa
[05:09] <SCOTroll> If they can get it over a dollar with some more PR and P&D, they'll be able to comply with Nasdaq's requirements.
[05:09] <SCOTroll> I'm going to pissed if my shares become OTC stock.
[05:10] <SCOTroll> The judge is partial IMHO.
[05:11] <FearMoth> Hi, how can I configure my Intel 3945ABG wireless to use WPA TKIP/PSK ?
[05:11] <SCOTroll> With a partial judge, SCO could prove that Linux has stolen code.
[05:11] <jrick> will you please get off of here troll?
[05:11] <SCOTroll> With Mark Shuttleworth would be falling over himself to pay Darl.
[05:11] <jrick> this has nothing to do with kubuntu help.
[05:12] <jbrouhard> May i recommend SCOTroll be kicked ?
[05:12] <SCOTroll> May I recommend you be kicked?
[05:12] <Skrot-> May I recommend on-topic discussion?
[05:12] <SCOTroll> Sure.
[05:12] <jbrouhard> Skrot-: I agree
[05:13] <Skrot-> FearMoth: Feisty?
[05:13] <jrick> mike: I just install frostwire and got the same problem
[05:13] <SCOTroll> As soon as some Linux fanatic comes asking about how to mount his USB drive so he can view his pengiun porn, I'll be glad to be on topic.
[05:14] <kgx> btw, has been a fix to the missing bootsplash in kubuntu?
[05:14] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- if I export the wav as an ogg and play it in XChat, I get loud noise
[05:14] <Skrot-> Well, either be on-topic or go to #offtopic and do your rambling there
[05:14] <dsmith_> Q: how do you mount my USB drive so I cant ake SCOTRoll shutup
[05:14] <SCOTroll> Skrot-: I would be glad to.
[05:15] <jrick> haha very funny
[05:15] <ILoveRMS> Richard Stallman is my idol.
[05:15] <intelikey> Dragnslcr does it play in amarok ?
[05:15] <sheldonc> RMS is a crack victim
[05:15] <FearMoth> Skrot- yes, Feisty..
[05:15] <intelikey> who's Richard Stallman ?
[05:16] <dsmith_> !richard stallman
[05:16] <sheldonc> intelikey: only person you need to know is Linus Torvalds
[05:16] <dsmith_> heh
[05:16] <dsmith_> hah :)
[05:16] <Skrot-> FearMoth: Then you should have KNetworkManager installed with a icon down in the systray? It supports both WEP and WPA (1 and 2)
[05:16] <ILoveRMS> intelikey: The Rosie O'Donnell of communist hippy legalize-marajuana GNU fanatics.
[05:16] <intelikey> hehheh
[05:17] <sheldonc> ILoveRMS: Did you read the speech OSNews posted of some talk he did in Croatia? He said something along the lines of not distributing software as an ethical dilemma
[05:17] <ILoveRMS> He's full of it.
[05:17] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- well, Amarok can play the converted ogg file. Gaim just plays silence though
[05:17] <nick_> hey
[05:18] <Doctor_Nick> I stupidly ran the KDE personalization wizard and now my desktop is really annoying
[05:18] <Dragnslcr> Gaim is use the command "artsplay %s"
[05:18] <Doctor_Nick> how do i go back to the kubuntu defaults?
[05:18] <FearMoth> Skrot- when I go to manual configuration and click configure interface on my wireless (eth1) and type my ESSID and my key in WEP key and select ASCII as key type, it still can't connect. Am I doing something wrong?
[05:18] <intelikey> Dragnslcr if amarok plays it correctly,  lets assume the file is good shall we ?
[05:18] <Skrot-> FearMoth: Why do you need to use manual method?
[05:19] <intelikey> Dragnslcr thus we start working on what the specific applications are doing incorrectly
[05:19] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- yup, sounds good to me. Now I just have to get Gaim to play it
[05:20] <FearMoth> Skrot- I don't see anything about my wireless when I click on the knetworkmanager icon in the bottom right, just "wired devices"
[05:20] <ILoveRMS> Well, I've had enough of the hammer and sickle communists.
[05:20] <intelikey> !wifi | FearMoth if the docs are of any help you'll find them at;
[05:20] <ubotu> FearMoth if the docs are of any help you'll find them at;: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:21] <Doctor_Nick> anyone help me with my problem?
[05:21] <Skrot-> FearMoth: hmm.. usually there's a list of networks. If you right click the knetworkmanager icon in systray and go to options, is the "Enable wireless" selection grayed out there?
[05:21] <Doctor_Nick> !default
[05:21] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[05:21] <ILoveRMS> Time to go back to capitalism. Peace hippies, don't protest too much.
[05:21] <intelikey> Doctor_Nick by clearing the home dir ?
[05:21] <Doctor_Nick> ILoveRMS: Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
[05:22] <Doctor_Nick> intellikey: thats an idea
[05:22] <Doctor_Nick> how do i view the hidden folders in konquerer
[05:23] <ILoveRMS> Don't let the cannibus blur your sense of freedom.
[05:23] <sumguy231> Doctor_Nick: View -> Show Hidden Files.
[05:23] <Doctor_Nick> so just delete the .kde folder and restart?
[05:25] <sumguy231> Maybe. I've never deleted all of .kde though. You may want to be more selective. Like just deleting .kde/share or .kde/share/config.
[05:25] <nalioth> AliasRichard: please be civil
[05:26] <AliasRichard> ?
[05:26] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- blah, I figured out why Gaim wouldn't play the file
[05:26] <intelikey> Dragnslcr mind sharing it ?
[05:27] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- Gaim was using the command artsplay %s
[05:27] <Dragnslcr> But the filename had a space in it
[05:27] <AliasRichard> How do I uninstall Linux? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/247804 is confusing and not specific to my kubuntu Linux.
[05:27] <intelikey> there ya go.     "use more quotes"
[05:27] <Dragnslcr> Changing it to artsplay "%s" fixed it
[05:27] <Allysan> AliasRichard: Format the partition it is on
[05:27] <Allysan> What do you want to use in place of linux?
[05:28] <AliasRichard> Microsoft Windows Vista.
[05:28] <Dragnslcr> I suppose I should report that as a bug in Gaim. Maybe suggest they shell-escape the file name before replacing the %s
[05:28] <Allysan> AliasRichard: Boot the Vista disk and delete/format the Linux partition... back up any data you have on that partition first.
[05:28] <Allysan> But I'm going to recommend using XP rather than Vista
[05:29] <nick_> yup
[05:29] <nick_> that did it
[05:29] <sumguy231> Just curious, how much did you delete?
[05:29] <Doctor_Nick> just .kde
[05:29] <Doctor_Nick> which wiped out the settings for just about everything
[05:29] <Doctor_Nick> buuuuut
[05:30] <Dragnslcr> Yay, I crashed Gaim
[05:30] <sumguy231> Doctor_Nick: Ah, I see. Good, good.
[05:31] <OCSevoLI> I had trouble installing my Microsoft software in WINE.
[05:31] <intelikey> good
[05:31] <nalioth> OCSevoLI: please join ##windows
[05:32] <Dragnslcr> Great, now Gaim crashes every time I try to change a sound
[05:32] <cntb> 7.04 upgrrade failed after retries - pls look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19074/
[05:33] <intelikey> Dragnslcr eeek...    maybe you need to restart the sound server ?
[05:33] <intelikey> not sure it will help.
[05:33] <Gamic> cntb: try again in an hour or so, looks like it couldn't download some of the updated files
[05:34] <OCSevoLI> Samual Beckett... The adventures of Waiting for Godot ...A screenplay with existential references.
[05:34] <Dragnslcr> Nah, it wasn't when I tried to play the sound, it was when I tried to open the file dialog
[05:34] <Dragnslcr> I reset the sound to the default, then it let me open the dialog. Dunno what happened
[05:35] <cntb> gamic same yesterday
[05:35] <cntb> overload ?
[05:36] <intelikey> cntb looks like a problem with your sources.list to me    care to pastebin that ?
[05:37] <cntb> k intelikey
[05:38] <jaosn> hi all
[05:38] <intelikey> jaosn
[05:39] <jaosn> when i go on a site where pics is theres an x instead of a pic whats wrong
[05:39] <intelikey> browser set to not display images
[05:39] <jaosn> i have 6.06
[05:39] <sumguy231> Which browser? Does anything else not load?
[05:39] <jaosn> firefox
[05:39] <cntb> intelikey: my sources on edgy now b4 feisty http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19076/
[05:40] <intelikey> i have turned images off in ff before
[05:40] <cntb> 7.04 upgrade failed after retries - pls look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19074/
[05:41] <cntb> let me guess  here . I guess I should hide backports here , for upgrade top continue?
[05:41] <jaosn> how do i fix the image settings
[05:41] <sumguy231> jaosn: Try http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_animations_do_not_load
[05:42] <Allysan> jaosn: go to Edit > Preferences > Content > make sure "Load Images Automatically" is checked
[05:42] <intelikey> cntb ok that error message shows errors on feisty repos  your sources.list has only edgy sources in it.   i am not familear with the edgy>feisty upgrader     but i'd think you may need to rerun the upgrader script...
[05:42] <jaosn> its checked
[05:43] <intelikey> cntb and yes commenting out backports would be advisable
[05:43] <Dragnslcr> Thanks for the help intelikey
[05:43] <intelikey> Dragnslcr np
[05:44] <cntb> tyvm
[05:45] <premier_> is there a way to read DRM encoded files (such as those sold by iTunes) in ubuntu?
[05:45] <premier_> the format is .m4p
[05:45] <premier_> also, .m4a
[05:46] <Allysan> premier_: Amarok will play them, but you can't edit their tags
[05:48] <jrick> too bad mike left, i just found his solution.
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah.  i'm sorry the way i just left you with him.   but i can't talk to people that don't even understand    cd Desktop    after you tell them "just run that..."
[05:49] <Dimetera> does anyone know how to boot off the kubuntu 7.04 cd in a custom monitor mode?
[05:50] <intelikey> you mean vga= ?
[05:50] <Yorokobi> Dimetera, use F6 then add 'resolution=1024x768' or whatever res you want
[05:50] <Dimetera> say 800x600 @ 60hz
[05:50] <intelikey> oh you mean the graphic mode   reconfigure x
[05:50] <jrick> turns out frostwire was not using the correct jre. he needed to do a  sudo update-alternatives --config java and then select Sun Java
[05:51] <Dimetera> can you do that from cd boot?
[05:51] <intelikey> Dimetera well why not ?
[05:51] <Dimetera> where would i find it?
[05:51] <intelikey> Dimetera    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <Dimetera> ok thanks
[05:52] <intelikey> if it don't work you can gripe at me tomarrow... :)
[05:54] <jrick> is there any way to get back to mike?
[05:54] <jrick> i don't want to leave him hanging
[05:55] <intelikey> jrick if he's reg'd  you might /msg memoserv   him
[05:56] <intelikey> freenode provides memo services to registered users.     mine is turned off...
[05:56] <jrick> [Notice]  -MemoServ- Unknown command [mike] 
[05:56] <intelikey> /msg memoserv help
[05:58] <jrick> i'm confused.  I doubt there's anyway to get his email
[05:58] <intelikey> ok i've just enought time to clean up and shut down.   later all.
[06:00] <freak10336> can anyone tell me why my screen resolution only goes to 800x600?
[06:00] <Doctor_Nick> ok
[06:01] <freak10336> i have a s3 unichrome graphics card
[06:01] <Doctor_Nick> now can anyone point me to a list of all the multimedia codecs i could ever possibly need?
[06:05] <dsmith_> freak10336: update xorg.conf?
[06:05] <dsmith_> Doctor_Nick: Flash 9
[06:08] <Doctor_Nick> har har
[06:11] <Morrissey> Hi. Would anyone please explain why amarok doesnt seem to find any of my mp3 files? At least not in the collection ... its OK when I add them manually, but it wont find any files in my mp3 dirs (though there are plenty!)
[06:11] <Doctor_Nick> did you install support for mp3 files yet?
[06:12] <Doctor_Nick> like, when you click on an mp3 file, it should prompt you to install mp3 codecs
[06:12] <Morrissey> It plays mp3 files ok
[06:12] <Morrissey> just not the collection that finds anything
[06:12] <Morrissey> tried with both mysql and sqllite, so its not the database ... :S
[06:13] <Doctor_Nick> hm
[06:13] <Morrissey> Actually, it did the first time, but when I tried to rescan collection, it just removed all the files, and now it cant find any
[06:15] <Doctor_Nick> thats weird
[06:15] <Doctor_Nick> is it all of your mp3 files, or just all of your files?
[06:15] <Doctor_Nick> do you have some oggs in there?
[06:22] <Morrissey> Doctor_Nick, none of my files
[06:23] <Morrissey> it actually added one file, but I deleted it because I though maybe it was screwing things up :)
[06:32] <luckyone> when you download stuff with superkaramba, where does it put it?
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> luckyone, download what?
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> Superkaramba is an addon sort of to KDE, so you can have objects on your desktop.
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> Like widgets in Mac and ObjectDesktop (or whatever it's called) in Windows.
[06:38] <premier_> I accidentally started a large number of file copys (8) of large files (100+ mb) from one hard drive to another.  Besides taking a long time, is there anything I should worry about?
[06:38] <premier_> A windows computer would crash crash crash, but I expect linux would be a little better
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> Depends what File Systems you're copying over.
[06:39] <premier_> vfat -> ext3
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> I wouldn't worry about it.
[06:40] <Maxdamantus> You can stop them if you want. It shouldn't do anything bad.
[06:40] <spookcomix> Howdy all.  I'm currently running the Kubuntu Live CD, and I'd love to just go ahead and overwrite my almost-Fedora-7 install on this laptop with Feisty.  However, Fedora is on an LVM volume.  How would I mount that?  I need to preserve /home, and if I can do it without rebooting, I'll get a special kudo.
[06:40] <premier_> BTW, for the past 3 days, my swap partition has been completely full according to my system monitor utility.  Is there anything I can do about that besides restarting?  I was trying to use top to determine who owned the swap, but it didn't list anything
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> You can preserve partitions.
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> Just remove the ones you don't want (Keep your /home partiton)
[06:41] <spookcomix> The whole drive is one big LVM.
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> And use the manual partitioning from there.
[06:41] <spookcomix> ...and GTParted doesn't even recognize it.
[06:41] <premier_> nevermind
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> I had that problem when I started kubuntu. :S
[06:41] <voorhees86> somebody hwl
[06:42] <voorhees86> helpme with the wireless
[06:42] <Maxdamantus> Luckily I have 2 hdds, and was able to back up everything on one while I erased the other.
[06:42] <premier_> voorhees86: what is it doing?
[06:42] <Maxdamantus> Away
[06:42] <spookcomix> Well, poo.  Does Kubuntu just not have support for mounting and using LVM?
[06:43] <premier_> !LVM
[06:43] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:43] <premier_> geez, I was considering raid for my new compy.  Should I reconsider?
[06:44] <premier_> do you guys know how the performance of raid 1 compares to raid 0?
[06:44] <levon> anyone get nsfu2 to run
[06:44] <voorhees86> my card is a broadcom, i install the drivers (frm43xxx-fwcutter) and the wlan light on my laptop turn blue, but on network manager nothing happend
[06:44] <levon> i got it running but the screens are grey
[06:44] <levon> any ideas
[06:45] <levon> frm
[06:45] <levon> did you click the knetworkmanager
[06:45] <levon> and select your network
[06:45] <voorhees86> yeah, but dosent appear
[06:46] <voorhees86> i thing i scrue the configuration
[06:46] <levon> not possible
[06:46] <levon> whats the driver
[06:46] <voorhees86> ?
[06:46] <levon> whats the driver for your card
[06:46] <levon> broadband
[06:46] <levon> what card do you have
[06:46] <voorhees86> broadcom
[06:47] <levon> is this uplink
[06:47] <melkor> does anybody think that could lead to problems?
[06:47] <melkor> ' /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)'
[06:47] <levon> anyways i was helping someone yesterday
[06:47] <levon> ill help you too
[06:47] <levon> voorhees go here #illhelpaway
[06:48] <levon> seriously im waiting in that channel to help you
[06:48] <kane_> so KDE isnt showing the contects of any folders in konqi or in any prompt boxes
[06:48] <kane_> is kde on the DRUGS?
[06:59] <wolferine> when using Apache2, I have to have my /home/user/public_html dir be used, do I specify that inside my apache2.conf, or in the default, in /etc/apache2/sites-available ?
[07:00] <thony> one problem...
[07:00] <thony> using the link,http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/10/installing-wine.html
[07:01] <kalorin`> wolferine: I believe there's an area in the config for user homedirs
[07:02] <kalorin`> in the main config
[07:02] <thony> I could not find the "quick filter text box"
[07:02] <kalorin`> I always do mine as name based vhosts just cause I'm fancy and like to set options on them in various ways to I feel more special :)
[07:03] <GWillakers> truecrypt for 7.04 has been released!  www.truecrypt.org
[07:04] <wolferine> kalorin, i thought that was being handled by the 'default' in /etc/apache2/sites-available now
[07:04] <thony> although accessing the k menu ->system->adept (package manager)
[07:07] <kalorin`> yeah I think it might be
[07:07] <kalorin`> I still do my own
[07:08] <kalorin`> man this is like fun
[07:08] <kalorin`> vmware
[07:20] <kalorin`> amazing, I did a virus scan and it didn't find the WinXP, Win2k, OR Win2k3 vmware instances I have
[07:20] <kalorin`> :)
[07:23] <kalorin`> ok night all
[07:34] <jovans> what are the backport modules for the kernel 2.6.20
[07:35] <levon> hmm
[07:36] <levon> anyone get nfsu2 to work
[07:38] <levon> voorhees86 that you
[07:38] <levon> thats why i dont help
[07:39] <levon> people dont say thank you when your done top that off im glad he jumped the gun
[07:39] <levon> voorhees
[07:39] <levon> you need to type more stuff
[07:39] <levon> #illhelpaway
[07:39] <levon> join agian
[07:39] <voorhees86> yeah, my system freeze, i reboot
[07:40] <levon> aww okay
[07:53] <brandon_> O_O
[07:58] <Brandx> ...
[08:00] <Brandx> . . . . . .
[08:00] <Brandx> Can someone help me?
[08:02] <PFA> anyone know where amarok saves its playlists by default?
[08:03] <Brandx> Uhh... Nope.
[08:03] <levon> nope?
[08:03] <Brandx> ?
[08:03] <levon> brandx problem?
[08:03] <Brandx> I am so confused
[08:04] <levon> what is your problem
[08:04] <levon> maybe i can help
[08:04] <Brandx> I cant install anything, This is my first day, well hour if Kubuntu
[08:04] <Brandx> of*
[08:04] <levon> oh man
[08:04] <Brandx> yea...
[08:04] <levon> brandx #illhelpyou
[08:04] <Brandx> im a un1337 fr00bie
[08:04] <levon> click that
[08:04] <Brandx> ok, ty
[08:05] <levon> wait
[08:05] <Brandx> ya?
[08:05] <levon> this one
[08:05] <Brandx> lawl, ok
[08:05] <levon> #illhelpaway
[08:05] <Brandx> ...
[08:05] <Brandx> "away" xD
[08:05] <Brandx> okey dokey, i'll give it a try
[08:05] <levon> k im waiting
[08:22] <sivaji> !ubout
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <sivaji> !ubotu
[08:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:25] <thetarepublic> ;o
[08:26] <sivaji> hi Andrew
[08:27] <sivaji> AndrewB
[08:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> does anyone here use rtorrent
[08:36] <sivaji> can i read and write a file to ntfs based partition through kubuntu?
[08:37] <cBau> I don't know the specific process, but yes
[08:44] <shibz> I am trying to help someone out with kubuntu... he is trying to install gaim using "apt-get install gaim"... apparently it can't find the gaim package... is there any reason why it would be masked or something?
[08:45] <cBau> is there a reason to use command line? I know the Adept Manager has it.
[08:46] <cBau> checking the package name
[08:46] <shibz> its a lot easier to tell someone to type something than it is to tell them what button to press haha
[08:46] <shibz> especially when I have never used adept
[08:46] <oxydon> hey
[08:47] <oxydon> i need help
[08:47] <cBau> I don't disagree, but if you can't find the apt-get for some reason, I suggest to tell him to go to Systems--> Adept Manager and search it.
[08:47] <shibz> hey oxydon
[08:47] <cBau> I see no reason why what you told him shouldn't work either
[08:47] <cBau> did he forget sudo or something?
[08:48] <nodesert_> my storage medias are mounted but just root can read how can i change this on start up
[08:48] <shibz> hes doing sudo
[08:48] <oxydon> it seems that i entered the usermanagement and i took away the admin from the secondary groups and i want 2 add it back
[08:48] <Brandx> can someone help me with the clock?>
[08:48] <cBau> shibz: I just tested the line you gave me and it installed correctly
[08:49] <shibz> hmmm
[08:49] <cBau> so.... I don't know
[08:49] <cBau> /afk
[08:49] <cBau> bah
[08:49] <shibz> I am thinking that his repositories are messed
[08:49] <cBau> could be
[08:49] <cBau> gotta run, work calls
[08:49] <oxydon> shibz do u think u know a solution to my problem
[08:49] <Brandx> how do i change the time to 12 hr not 24?
[08:50] <shibz> oxydon, I don't understand what your asking =/ sorry
[08:50] <shibz> I have never used kubuntu
[08:50] <Brandx> meh
[08:50] <oxydon> its like ubuntu
[08:50] <oxydon> i think so
[08:50] <Brandx> kubuntu is what im using too :P
[08:50] <shibz> never used ubuntu either
[08:50] <oxydon> i am just new here
[08:50] <shibz> or debian
[08:50] <Brandx> same
[08:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> if you start a CLI program in the konsole, then close then konsole but the program is still running, is there any way to get back into the program without restarting it?
[08:51] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: use "top"
[08:51] <bentob0x> how come everytime I boot, my desktop icons are shuffled out on my desktop and I always have to do right-click->Icons->Line up Vertically?
[08:51] <oxydon> shibz
[08:51] <oxydon> i cant access anything now with a password like adept
[08:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> triade- to switch to the program? how?
[08:52] <shibz> so you aren't in the wheel group anymore?
[08:53] <shibz> the command
[08:53] <shibz> sudo usermod -a -G wheel yourusername
[08:53] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: if you got the program to run in the background it'll stay running until you kill it.
[08:53] <shibz> should work
[08:53] <shibz> except, you don't have wheel so it won't let you use sudo
[08:54] <shibz> unless kubuntu works different from what i'm used to
[08:54] <dettoaltrimenti_> triade- I don't want to kill it. I want to open it without having to restart the program
[08:55] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19098/
[08:55] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: you can't afaik unless you used "screen" to start it.
[08:56] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: if ir's a gui program it should show in your taskbar.
[08:56] <mrcreativity> the shutdown button shows only log off option, and nothing else. can someone help?
[08:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> triade- so if I have screen running, and I want to restart X, how do I get the program back
[08:58] <lupul> hello. does anyone know if there is a plugin for gaim to show the music i'm listening to??
[08:58] <lupul> listening in amarok
[08:58] <lupul> ! music
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <lupul> ! gaim plugin
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaim plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: I'm not sure about running X but you can dettach a screen session and resume it alter (even remote) if need be. "man screen"
[09:01] <mrcreativity> can anyone help me please?
[09:01] <Kispios> Any italian Here??????????
[09:02] <Kispios> mrcreativity, what's the problem
[09:02] <mrcreativity> the shutdown button shows only log off option, and nothing else. can someone help?
[09:02] <Kispios> ?
[09:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> kispios hi
[09:03] <Kispios> dettoaltrimenti_, ciao
[09:04] <Kispios> dettoaltrimenti_, mi puoi aiutare un secondo?
[09:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> naturalmente
[09:06] <bentob0x> how come everytime I boot, my desktop icons are shuffled out on my desktop and I always have to do right-click->Icons->Line up Vertically?
[09:07] <dettoaltrimenti_> Kispios in #ubuntu-it
[09:07] <manchicken> bentob0x: Do you leave KDE properly?
[09:07] <bentob0x> yes always
[09:07] <manchicken> bentob0x: As in, you log out rather than just killing X?
[09:07] <Kispios> dettoaltrimenti_, aiutano anche su Kubuntu?
[09:07] <bentob0x> I'm looking online also and it seems to be a problem that other ppl get also
[09:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> si
[09:08] <flowingfire> hey there... I have samba set upand folders shared, but it's not showing up on my network at all.... any ideas?
[09:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> e sono la inoltre
[09:09] <manchicken> flowingfire: I've seen that problem before.  smb is a pain in the ass.  I wish I could give you a definitive answer--and someone smarter than me could probably do so--but I usually just play around with it until it's there.
[09:09] <manchicken> flowingfire: Try accessing it directly for starters, and go frrom there.
[09:10] <flowingfire> manchicken: Ahh . . . Thanks... Others have this probem too eh?
[09:10] <manchicken> flowingfire: Every time I set up samba I have that problem.
[09:11] <manchicken> flowingfire: whenever I'm in the unfortunate situation where I need to share files on a windows box I just use winscp.
[09:11] <flowingfire> :) What's that?
[09:12] <manchicken> flowingfire: It's a free software windows GUI program that lets you communicate with a machine that can share files over SCP or SFTP.
[09:12] <flowingfire> I'm willing to bet this is Microsoft being evil to linux people. hehe
[09:12] <flowingfire> hmmm.... can I apt-get it?
[09:13] <manchicken> flowingfire: It's a windows program.  winscp.org or winscp.com or winscp.net I think.
[09:13] <manchicken> flowingfire: It sucks less than explorer, too.
[09:13] <flowingfire> oooh ok... I was thinking emulation for some reason lol
[09:13] <manchicken> Naw, it just implements the SCP and SFTP protocols under win32.
[09:13] <flowingfire> k. :) thx rock on
[09:14] <triade> flowingfire: winscp uses "putty". You  can apt-get "putty"
[09:14] <flowingfire> that's ftp right
[09:15] <triade> ssh
[09:15] <flowingfire> -installed-
[09:15] <Alarm> why to putty if a simple console supports everything ?
[09:15] <manchicken> PuTTY has some bugs that really bother me.
[09:16] <flowingfire> so does feisty lol
[09:16] <manchicken> Shift-level-3 is anti-lefty.
[09:16] <mrcreativity> the shutdown button shows only log off option, and nothing else. can someone help?
[09:16] <manchicken> mrcreativity: Are you using xgl or beryl or compiz?
[09:17] <mrcreativity> i have installed it, but its not running atm
[09:17] <mikkael> can someone help me to get kaffeine to play avi files again ?
[09:17] <manchicken> mrcreativity: That normally happens when you're running X outside of a normal X session managed by kdm or gdm.
[09:17] <mikkael> at the moment i cant play any videos, not even wmv's
[09:17] <manchicken> mikkael: Well, wmvs aren't playable out of the box with kaffeine, so that doesn't surprise me.
[09:17] <mikkael> mpg work
[09:18] <mrcreativity> i have installed gnome as well, but gnome shows all the options
[09:18] <flowingfire> mikkael- drivers?
[09:18] <manchicken> mrcreativity: I don't know if KDE can interface well with gdm... I don't think I've ever tried it that way.
[09:18] <manchicken> mrcreativity: Are you running kdm or gdm?
[09:18] <mikkael> manchicken, i know that. im using kaffeine-xine and nvidia glx friver
[09:18] <mikkael> *driver
[09:18] <manchicken> mikkael: wmv isn't kaffeine-xine, it's win32codecs
[09:19] <flowingfire> oh good lord nvidia+feisty=DEATH
[09:19] <mikkael> i installed those win32codecs
[09:19] <manchicken> mikkael: And just to remind you, running win32codecs in some countries may be a violation of copyright laws.
[09:19] <manchicken> :)
[09:19] <manchicken> mikkael: Let me find the wiki page that helps with all of that.
[09:19] <mrcreativity> now? kdm, but i have gm installed as well, i switch between the 2 at times
[09:20] <mikkael> which countries
[09:20] <manchicken> mrcreativity: I would suggest that you don't do that as it can lead to these situations.  Are both gdm and kdm running right now?
[09:20] <manchicken> mikkael: Most countries that are a part of international copyright treaties.
[09:20] <mrcreativity> yes
[09:20] <mikkael> for example ?
[09:21] <manchicken> mikkael: United States, United Kingdom, any member of the European Union, Canada, and several other countries as well.
[09:21] <mrcreativity> damn it...brb\
[09:21] <flowingfire> heck, I have so much space I copied my whole system32 folder into the WINE directory.  Is that against most copyright laws?
[09:21] <mikkael> so those people arent allowed to watch wmv movies ?
[09:21] <mikkael> or only with MS ?
[09:21] <manchicken> mikkael: That is correct.
[09:22] <manchicken> mikkael: To do so in those countries is a violation of law that should be considered and decided upon.
[09:22] <mikkael> allright, anybody uses it
[09:22] <manchicken> mikkael: Some folks, such as myself, see it more as an act of civil disobedience than lawlessness, but I just wanted to make you aware of that.
[09:22] <manchicken> mikkael: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <manchicken> mikkael: That's for edgy, but if you just imagine that it says "feisty" everywhere that you see "edgy" you'll be fine.
[09:24] <manchicken> Actually, it has an extra little thing in there for feisty users.
[09:24] <mikkael> the problem is: i got it working before, but i tried some other repos (medibuntu, czessi kde repos) that broke avi playback..
[09:24] <manchicken> That's new.  Cool.
[09:24] <manchicken> mikkael: I suggest you avoid all non-standard repositories unless you're 100% certain of their stability and security.
[09:24] <mikkael> i did so, and downgraded again
[09:25] <mikkael> but its still broken, could you help if i post some kaffeine terminal output with errors when playing avi/wmv ?
[09:25] <manchicken> mikkael: I'd try going into adept and selecting the reinstall action for kaffine, xine, and all related codec packages.
[09:26] <mikkael> i did that, thats thje problem, in synaptic all those packages are @ the original ubuntu version again
[09:26] <manchicken> mikkael: Make sure that you have removed the non-standard repositories from your sources.list before trying that though.
[09:26] <mikkael> did it
[09:26] <triade> mikkael: I had the same prob and never got it working again. Use "mplayer"that always works with all kind of files.
[09:26] <manchicken> mikkael: Have you wiped out your kaffine config files and your .xinerc?
[09:26] <mikkael> nope
[09:26] <manchicken> That may help.  Dunno.
[09:27] <mikkael> delete the .kaffeine and .xinerc folder ?
[09:27] <manchicken> Just a shot in the dark on that one.
[09:27] <manchicken> Well there is no .kaffeine.
[09:27] <manchicken> It's ~/.kde/share/config and then look for kaffeinerc
[09:29] <mikkael> manchicken: is it safe to delete? kaffeine will create a new one ?
[09:30] <flowingfire> mikkael: I dunno if this is relevant but Wine was completely broken for me until I went in and manually deleted files and had it reinstall
[09:30] <flowingfire> uninstall never helped fix it-- only manual deletes
[09:31] <mikkael> im near to reinstall the hole OS once again
[09:31] <flowingfire> i'm on my 3rd of feisty. lol
[09:31] <mikkael> 2nd starting with herd2
[09:31] <flowingfire> but that's just because I don't know enough to fix things lol
[09:33] <manchicken> mikkael: Sure.  Move it out of the way, like rename it to OLD_kaffeinerc
[09:33] <manchicken> or something like that.
[09:33] <mikkael> did it, but i cant find a file called xinerc
[09:33] <manchicken> mikkael: No need.  Just figure out what's wrong with it and fix it :)
[09:33] <manchicken> mikkael: That's ~/.xinerc
[09:34] <mikkael> ha, deleting folder .xine gave me aviplayback back :D
[09:34] <mikkael> mpg, wmv working too
[09:35] <mikkael> phew, thanks a lot, manchicken
[09:36] <manchicken> Good.
[09:36] <flowingfire> Hmm... Why the heck is gDesklets randomly crashing?
[09:36] <manchicken> mikkael: Reinstalling is usually the wrong way to go.
[09:37] <mikkael> flowingfire, dont you like superkaramba ?
[09:37] <flowingfire> mikkael-- is that better?
[09:37] <flowingfire> 'cuz I'll install it over a program that won't stay on for more than a half-hour lol
[09:37] <mikkael> its for KDE and its great, at least it never crashes for me
[09:37] <flowingfire> cool.  I'll give it a shot.
[09:38] <premier> it deleted a file (as in shift-delete) on my external hard drive (ext3 format). Can I get it back?
[09:38] <mikkael> flowingfire: what kinda desklets do you use ?
[09:38] <flowingfire> mikkael- weather, time, -- just the basics... maybe ram usage when needed
[09:38] <mikkael> superkaramba got those
[09:38] <flowingfire> :)
[09:39] <mikkael> apt-get superkaramba and its in your menu
[09:39] <flowingfire> sounds easy enough...
[09:39] <mikkael> +install :D
[09:39] <premier> I wish they could put these widgets directly in the panel, rather than on the desktop... that's why I have high hopes for kde4 with plasma
[09:39] <flowingfire> hmm...
[09:40] <flowingfire> Well, my apt-get is apt-gotten
[09:40] <flowingfire> (gawd, what the heck did I do in windows?  Spend 45 seconds clicking through install windows?  God bless apt-get)
[09:41] <flowingfire> premier: Do you mean put the widgets directly IN the monitor?
[09:41] <premier> apt-get i think is one of linux's greatest strengths... I don't understand why rpm based distros don't adopt
[09:41] <mikkael> they are too large for the panel! or what do you mean ?
[09:41] <premier> flowingfire: I mean in the kicker (in windows its called the taskbar iirc)
[09:41] <flowingfire> k
[09:42] <premier> mikkael: make the panel smaller!  See, I'm in the habit of having one maximized window dominate my entire environment, so everything else has to be on the panel or I won't see it
[09:43] <mikkael> i understand, thats my behaviour too. so you want panel-sized widgets ?
[09:44] <flowingfire> Isn't that what things like Gmail notifier are?
[09:44] <flowingfire> panel-sized widgets?
[09:44] <premier> mikkael: yeah I think so.  Theres already a good selection, but they tend to be buggy, and have poor integration, and sometimes they won't be very configurable
[09:45] <mikkael> if someone doesnt see his desktop, he needs to see the widgets on his panel, Kweather is available
[09:45] <premier> I used to use KWeather, but it doesn't give me the information that I need (as in a forcast, not just current conditions.  I do have a window in my room)
[09:46] <premier> I also used to use a rss feed but it prevented me from having a life so I turned it off
[09:46] <mikkael> i just discovered my new favourite konqueror feature: hit F8 when browsing files and a terminal opens IN konqueror..great!
[09:46] <flowingfire> Okay.. maybe I'm missing something here... I clicked "Liquid Weather" in Karamba and said "Install"... How do I put it on my dektop?
[09:46] <mikkael> its in the list of available things now ?
[09:47] <mikkael> double klick it then
[09:47] <flowingfire> one sec.
[09:47] <flowingfire> All I see is "get new stuff" and "open local theme"
[09:47] <mikkael> after "get new stuff" and installing you should have it just under those 2 options
[09:48] <mikkael> was installing successfull ?
[09:48] <flowingfire> I thought so ... I'll try again.
[09:49] <premier> mikkael: I originally was exited about dolphin, but now I'm not sure... Whats wrong with Konqueror as a file browser or a web browser?  Honestly?
[09:49] <flowingfire> Hmm.. I have to play with this.. clicking "install" isn't working so well, so I'm going to go online to download and open local theme
[09:50] <mikkael> ehm, i used dolphin too, but i missed some options
[09:50] <mikkael> flowingfire download it @ kde-looks
[09:50] <premier> if there was anything I would change about konq it would be *add* features
[09:50] <flowingfire> k
[09:51] <mikkael> i dont know what we are talking about right now, konqueror does all i need
[09:51] <manchicken> konqueror++
[09:51] <manchicken> premier: There are always kparts.
[09:51] <mikkael> i added the konquere profile-manager to my quicklaunch thing, so i can have a quick choice if i want to browse files or the web
[09:51] <manchicken> They're easy enough to hack together.
[09:52] <manchicken> premier: And there are plenty of them on kde-apps.org
[09:52] <premier> Can kparts change the way konqueror manages tabs, for example?
[09:53] <premier> Also, to be honest, I think firefox renders more webpages "correctly" and can deal with more advanced web design
[09:53] <premier> In my experience, anyway
[09:53] <flowingfire> Yayyy-- that worked.  I have liquid weather installed
[09:54] <marcspages> Morning. Please. a definitive answer; Does anyone truly know if Knetworkmanager broken or working for WPA?
[09:54] <flowingfire> is there a translucency filter?
[09:55] <premier> marcspages I was broken?
[09:55] <mikkael> flowingfire, its highly cusomizable, search for the config menu
[09:55] <flowingfire> :) ok
[09:56] <dellnote> hello everyone
[09:56] <marcspages> premier: Ta. Obvious next question; Is there a date (approx, of course) aimed for a fix?
[09:57] <dellnote> can someone help me I have some MS Access databases can i ran them on ubuntu?
[09:58] <bonbonthejon> dellnote: I think openoffice can open them
[09:59] <dellnote> No unfortunatlly it doesnt isnt there a program we can use to simluate ms programs or files?
[10:05] <jussi01> dellnote: crossover office
[10:05] <jussi01> dellnote: it costs though
[10:05] <r3> hello .. any1 here to collect bugz for feisty ?
[10:05] <jussi01> !launchpad | r3
[10:05] <ubotu> r3: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:48] <quiz> Hello can anywon please help me?
[10:49] <quiz> i got problem with repositories
[10:49] <quiz> i can't add wit this "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" command
[10:50] <quiz> terminal say kate crash can't connect to x server
[10:50] <onewing> try vi or vim
[10:50] <quiz> whats that ?
[10:50] <onewing> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:51] <quiz> ohh ok i try
[10:51] <roland_> hi
[10:51] <onewing> vi/vim are command line editors
[10:51] <mat1980> quiz, probably nano is more userfriendly
[10:51] <roland_> how do i share printer on (k)ubuntu
[10:51] <quiz> i try this sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal shows repositories what i need to do ?
[10:52] <quiz> mat1980: i can't do with nano
[10:53] <onewing> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vi-guide.xml
[10:54] <onewing> this shows a really easy vi method
[10:54] <quiz> onewing: i wery bad know english there are word that i can't speel =/
[10:54] <mat1980> quiz, have you used the command sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:55] <onewing> print the guide, read once, then use it as a guide. File it for future use.
[10:55] <quiz> mat1980: yes i use in temrinal shows are ok but i don't know what i need to do
[10:56] <onewing> This tutorial will show you how to use vi, a powerful visual editor
[10:56] <mat1980> quiz, sorry I just connected, I don't know what you have to do
[10:57] <quiz> onewing:  thx i try mat1980 ok
[10:57] <mat1980> quiz, I have only suggested an editor more userfriendly then vi
[10:57] <onewing> mat1980: quiz wants to edit sources.list
[10:57] <Dezine> Hello all.. I have a microsoft mouse and I want to be able to use the side buttons.. I can't seem to configure them or change the setting, the mouse settings don't seem to have any ability to chose type of mouse
[10:58] <Lamington> hello
[10:58] <Lamington> I've just gotten beryl going
[10:58] <Lamington> But I have a slight (though very annoying) problem
[10:58] <Dezine> beryl is sweet :D
[10:59] <Lamington> All my window decorations have dissappeared
[10:59] <Lamington> Which is a bit of a problem
[10:59] <_4strO> Lamington: try to type 'emerald --replace'
[10:59] <Lamington> ok just a sec
[11:00] <onewing> quiz: google "sources.list generator"
[11:00] <Lamington> _4strO: I get an error
[11:00] <Lamington> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:00] <Lamington>   Major opcode:  147
[11:01] <Lamington>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:01] <quiz> onewing:  i do via vi i do this " vi source.list than i type repositories and where i need to write wq to save and quit?
[11:01] <Lamington>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:01] <Lamington> Failed to open device
[11:01] <Lamington> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:01] <Lamington>   Major opcode:  147
[11:01] <Lamington>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:01] <Lamington>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:01] <Lamington> Failed to open device
[11:02] <_4strO> Lamington: just try to kill and reload emerald (using ctrl+esc for exemple)
[11:02] <Lamington> _4strO: ok brb
[11:02] <_4strO> !baddevice
[11:02] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[11:03] <Lamington> ok my decos are back
[11:03] <onewing> quiz; after editing is complete, press "Esc", then ":", then "x"
[11:03] <Lamington> gonna try starting beryl again
[11:04] <quiz> onewing:  thanks
[11:05] <onewing> quiz: u'r welcome. bye
[11:05] <Lamington> same problem again
[11:05] <quiz> bye
[11:05] <Lamington> my windecos dissappear
[11:06] <Lamington> same thing happened when I first tried xgl/compiz on my previous install
[11:06] <Dezine> I think I found the answer..
[11:07] <Dezine> now to restart to see
[11:14] <onewing> Lamington: backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first
[11:14] <onewing> [02:09]  <onewing> Lamington: under Input Device section, I had three ibstances of the "wacom" driver being used; i deleted all three Sections.
[11:14] <onewing> [02:11]  <onewing> then, under "Section ServerLayout", i deleted the lines that reference "stylus"' cursor"' and "eraser". This fixed the problem for me.
[11:14] <onewing> [02:12]  <onewing> The BAd Device problem, that is.
[11:14] <onewing> [02:12]  <onewing> good luck, I'm out.
[11:14] <Lamington> ok thanks
[11:14] <Lamington> I'll try that
[11:36] <quiz> how to save fail via nano ?
[11:37] <_4strO> quiz: ctrl x
[11:38] <quiz> thx
[11:43] <ssaa> hello please i need some help with ksynaptics
[11:43] <ssaa> it wont let me configure anything
[11:45] <cyber> Aloha
[11:45] <cyber> anyone awake
[11:50] <piotrek> !polish
[11:50] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:06] <dromer> ok wtf, the strengest thing just happened for the 2nd time this week: the system froze completely (X completely frozen, can't even access with ssh) keyboard completely unresponsive (not even ctr+alt+sysrq->rseiub), numlock gts turned off and caps+scrolllock are blinking
[12:06] <Raffi^> hello
[12:09] <Raffi^> i wat to ask about Trash in ubuntu. when I choose "empty trash" progress bar displays, and that's it. I can wait an hour or two :] 
[12:10] <Raffi^> what is wrong?
[12:20] <NiceGuyUK> man, that nickserv stuff is complicated
[12:24] <dromer> haha, no it isn't :P
[12:32] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> Hmm anyone know an easy way to stop a program from beeping (Such as scrot)?
[12:33] <Contrast> Maxdamantus: You can turn off sound notifications from prgrams system-wide in System Settings, but I'm not sure about scrot.
[12:34] <Contrast> brb
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Mmm.. I know.
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Meh. Might as well do that. PC Speaker is annoying on ears.
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> Is screen able to supress sound if I do it in there?
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Nvm, I'll just leave bell off system wide.
[12:38] <ubuntu> +
[12:45] <Beaver{rRr}> Hello. Im new in kubuntu, installed it yesterday, and want to use it on desktop computer. One problem, there is no internet on that computer, and i can directly get packages, needed for play music with Amarok.
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, you could use it like that, and download packages on a different computer.
[12:49] <Beaver{rRr}> Maxdamantus, ok, there is windows on computer with internet, how can i get ubuntu packages with windows?
[12:50] <ForgeAus> you download .deb files
[12:50] <ForgeAus> but they don't install into windows
[12:50] <ForgeAus> of course
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> You can install the .deb file on a Windows system.
[12:50] <ForgeAus> they may be stored there tho...
[12:50] <ForgeAus> cygwin?
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> Then transfer them over to your Kubuntu using some storage device.
[12:51] <Beaver{rRr}> ok, where can i get these .deb packages?
[12:51] <ForgeAus> Max, thats copying not installing
[12:51] <ForgeAus> Beaver, lots of places... either ubuntu repositories
[12:51] <ForgeAus> (browse there manually)
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, if he downloads them using Windows and puts them onto Kubuntu, that solves the problem.
[12:51] <Beaver{rRr}> download from windows > copy flash device > copy kubuntu computer > install on kubuntu.
[12:51] <ForgeAus> or .deb files from other places on the internet
[12:51] <ForgeAus> thats it Beaver :)
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> Yep.
[12:51] <ForgeAus> doesn't have to be a flash device
[12:52] <Beaver{rRr}> thanks for adequate support ^_^
[12:52] <ForgeAus> (it could be reading an NTFS or VFAT partition under Kubuntu
[12:52] <Contrast> Is it possible to make it so .bak files aren't created everytime I change a text file?
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> Change directory (in a terminal) to whereever the .deb is stored.
[12:52] <ForgeAus> could be writing to an EXT3 partition under windows...
[12:52] <ForgeAus> just as long as the .deb is visible to the OS in question
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> Then "sudo apt-get install <PACKAGE-NAME>"
[12:52] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, write to ext3 from windows?
[12:52] <ForgeAus> yes
[12:52] <ForgeAus> fs-drivers's ext2ifs driver
[12:53] <ForgeAus> from.. fs-driver.org
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> Most flash devices come with FAT* by default.
[12:53] <ForgeAus> note: thats possibly a "works for me" thing but I've had no problem with them
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> And unless they've repartitioned it, it will still be that way.
[12:54] <ForgeAus> (it even reads vmware virtual disks once they've been mounted)
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> And FAT32 should work fine.
[12:54] <ForgeAus> yes.. Fat32 should work fine
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> I doubt you'll come across a 4GB+ .deb file very often.
[12:54] <ForgeAus> lol
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> Btw, where does apt-get store the packages?
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Or does it delete them after install?
[12:55] <ForgeAus> /var/cache/apt
[12:55] <ForgeAus> (theres also a partial)
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Ah.
[12:55] <ForgeAus> it can be set to delete after install
[12:55] <ForgeAus> depending on what tool you use
[12:55] <ForgeAus> to do the installation
[12:55] <Beaver{rRr}> am i need to copy downloaded deb's to /var/cache/apt?
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. I'll probably delete those.. Not really any point to have them.
[12:56] <ForgeAus> Beaver no
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, no, you don't need to.
[12:56] <Beaver{rRr}> ok
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> That's just where apt-get installs them when it downloads the packages automatically.
[12:56] <ForgeAus> .deb's can be installed easily from anywhere by right clicking and using install on the (actions?) submenu
[12:56] <Beaver{rRr}> ok, thanks
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> Installing with menus ftl.
[12:57] <ForgeAus> erm that is anywhere in a file manager like Konqi or Krusader or desktop, etc...
[12:57] <ForgeAus> I can't guarantee other file managers, and/or programs will work the same way...
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> Konqueror does.
[12:58] <Maxdamantus> Which is the default file manager for KDE.
[12:58] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, for playing mp3s with amarok, i need libxine-extracodecs and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly?
[12:58] <ForgeAus> at least until Dolphin takes over (if it does)
[12:58] <Maxdamantus> Actually, it's in "Kubuntu package menu"
[12:58] <ForgeAus> Max, thanx, I wasn't sure I was right there, seems I was wrong...
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> I've always been used to installing things through the terminal.
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> All technical stuff - Terminal.
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> Apart from scripting, nano is annoying to use for that.
[01:00] <ForgeAus> nano is ok
[01:00] <ForgeAus> unless your a vi freak or emacs one
[01:00] <Maxdamantus> Not for writing large scripts.
[01:00] <Maxdamantus> Took about 5 secs to scroll to the bottom of my PHP bot using Page down there.
[01:01] <ForgeAus> I recommend using an ide for larger scripts but yes vi (inc nvi, gvim, etc) and/or emacs are also appropriate
[01:01] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, how to download all libxine1-ffmpeg depending packages under windows? only one-by-one?
[01:02] <Beaver{rRr}> sorry for my english.
[01:02] <ForgeAus> and yes nano will do it but as Max pointed out its not ideal in some respects
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, http://packages.debian.org/experimental/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> That should work.
[01:06] <HumpBack> Hello all
[01:06] <ForgeAus> eek experimental? ... hmmm ok...
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> I dunno.
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> Only been using Debian about a week myself. :S
[01:07] <ForgeAus> Debian != Kubuntu ...
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> Ubuntu is Debian based.
[01:07] <ForgeAus> there are many similarities but also differences
[01:07] <ForgeAus> yes Ubuntu is based on Debian Linux thats true
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> ...
[01:08] <Maxdamantus> Well that's like saying Kubuntu isn't Linux.
[01:08] <Maxdamantus> Because it's a modified kernel.
[01:08] <ForgeAus> is it? I didn't know that...
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> I think so.
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> Well, it's like saying Gentoo isn't Linux.
[01:09] <ForgeAus> the kernel looked fairly generic on the surface
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> I know that's a modified kernel.
[01:09] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, will experimental version works under my kubuntu or not?)
[01:10] <ForgeAus> Beaver, it SHOULD work...
[01:10] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, experimental means it's not tested fully for stability.
[01:10] <ForgeAus> but bear in mind that it is experimental so be careful with it...
[01:10] <Maxdamantus> It should work, but probably best to get the latest stable version.
[01:10] <s1m0n3> hello all. i need help for a wifi adapter air-pcm350
[01:11] <paco_> hi
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> Explaining problems helps. :P
[01:11] <paco_> hi everybody
[01:11] <paco_> its my first time in irc ubuntu
[01:11] <paco_> :)
[01:11] <paco_> exciting!
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> Hello.
[01:12] <ForgeAus> paco are you using Konversation?
[01:12] <paco_> yes
[01:12] <ForgeAus> :)
[01:12] <paco_> why
[01:12] <paco_> ah :)
[01:12] <ForgeAus> no reason
[01:12] <paco_> okok
[01:12] <ForgeAus> just curiousity
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> XChat > Konversation
[01:12] <s1m0n3> i can see it under two names eth1 and wifio under iwconfig cmd!!
[01:12] <paco_> can I anything ask ?
[01:12] <ForgeAus> paco don't ask to ask, just ask
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> Yes, you can anything ask.
[01:13] <ForgeAus> you'll either be ignored, or helped... (generally)
[01:13] <paco_> im trying to update my libc6 2.3.6 to 2.4 but i dont know how...
[01:13] <paco_> because my system says that ive already the lastest version
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> Then you can't upgrade. :S
[01:13] <paco_> but
[01:14] <ForgeAus> can't is too strong a word there Max :)
[01:14] <paco_> im trying to install some modules and they say that i need libc6 >= 2.4
[01:14] <paco_> :____(
[01:14] <paco_> shit
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> Try "sudo apt-get update libc6"
[01:14] <paco_> a moment..
[01:14] <ForgeAus> modlues? are they source, .deb or what type of modules??
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> See if that works.
[01:15] <ForgeAus> (Max interesting info for you to ponder, most Slackware binaries work in Ubuntu/Kubuntu with no problem)...
[01:15] <paco_> dont works :(
[01:15] <paco_> shit...
[01:16] <paco_> what version of libc6 do u have?
[01:16] <ForgeAus> paco... what is the filetype?
[01:16] <ForgeAus> of the module
[01:16] <paco_> a paket of synaptic
[01:16] <ForgeAus> is it a .tgz? .deb? .rpm? .tar.gz, etc?
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, what do you mean by "Slackware binaries"?
[01:16] <ForgeAus> then a .deb
[01:16] <paco_> :(
[01:17] <paco_> shit, i need it for use bluetooth with python
[01:17] <ForgeAus> slackware uses .tgz packages right?... if you extract them, then binary (executable) files function normally under kubuntu...
[01:17] <paco_> im trying to manage a robot with the wiimote
[01:17] <Maxdamantus> When you compile something using GCC, it can usually work on most distribs as long as it has the correct libraries.
[01:17] <ForgeAus> unless they require to be put in a certain place (which I assume you have already sorted out)... etc...
[01:18] <ForgeAus> and that all the dependancies to run them are in place of course...
[01:18] <Maxdamantus> I was able to run my IRC server on Kubuntu, which I compiled on Gentoo.
[01:18] <ForgeAus> nice Max :)
[01:18] <Maxdamantus> When you download Firefox normally off http://getfirefox.com/ it's a binary.
[01:18] <paco_> aha
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Works on most distribs as long as you have all the libraries.
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Alot of programs are like that.
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> ePSXe is another one, it's not open source, but it's avaliable for Linux.
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Though that was compiled on Debian.
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> I was able to execute it on Gentoo, the very same binary.
[01:20] <ForgeAus> PCSX2 I compiled from source
[01:20] <ForgeAus> can you get emerge for kubuntu?
[01:20] <danboid> Anyone here use mint KDE DVD?
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> Probably.
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> All emerge does is it downloads the source and ebuild for a program.
[01:21] <ForgeAus> I sofar had pkgsrc (from BSD)
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> So it modifies the headers before compiling.
[01:21] <ForgeAus> and .deb and slackware packages
[01:21] <ForgeAus> (although I generally installed slackware ones manually)
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> Also configures for your system before compiling.
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> For extra stability.
[01:21] <danboid> Does Mint 2.2 KDE DVD come with DeVeDe, qdvdauthor, xdtv and cinelerra?
[01:21] <ForgeAus> danboid I have no idea
[01:21] <ForgeAus> perhaps you should ask in #Linux
[01:21] <danboid> I know it comes with k9copy, which is cool
[01:22] <ForgeAus> Mint isn't really a Kubuntu distribution that I'm aware of
[01:22] <mario> Hi
[01:22] <danboid> Well, theres no-one in #linuxmint and its based on ubuntu so heres my 2nd best bet- I need to find a full package list for the DVD version
[01:22] <ForgeAus> I have heard of it before...
[01:23] <MarioKubuntu> Hi guy,,,
[01:23] <MarioKubuntu> is there someone that can help me?
[01:23] <ForgeAus> dan, then two options either #linux or #Ubuntu may (or may not) know
[01:23] <MarioKubuntu> I've some questions about creative X-fi sound card
[01:23] <danboid> yeah, I'll try #ubuntu too, thanks
[01:24] <ForgeAus> no problem dan, good luck
[01:24] <MarioKubuntu> Is possible to install some driver for use creative xfi music edition card?
[01:24] <_3fg> How do I access an external hard drive that is connected through USB?
[01:24] <ForgeAus> mario I'm not certain how that works... linux uses Alsa (and/or arts?) as its software sound system
[01:24] <ForgeAus> I don't know if it has drivers for specific cards or not
[01:25] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, the kernel should.
[01:25] <ForgeAus> _3fg there is probably an /dev/ device for it...
[01:25] <ForgeAus> that you can mount
[01:25] <_3fg> I'll check again
[01:25] <MarioKubuntu> ForgeAus: I use alsa drivers... but I can't use it with this creative card :(
[01:25] <ForgeAus> but I'm not certain what it will be called...
[01:25] <fakepatriot> can someone tell me how to enable mp3 support for amarok through the command line?
[01:25] <spheard> none of the settings are being saved on my install of Kubuntu 6.10, Things like file-application association. and I keep geting a DCOP error flashing up
[01:26] <ForgeAus> fakepatriot I think you need to install some packages for mp3 support
[01:26] <_3fg> Ok, I did find it
[01:26] <_3fg> how do I mount it?
[01:26] <_3fg> and where is a good place to do it
[01:26] <MarioKubuntu> ForgeAus: another question.... I've amsn... cvs edition with antyaliasing but I see that is more slow... but only on ubuntu and kubuntu is there any kind of solution for it?
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, where be the source for the kernel?
[01:26] <ForgeAus> use the command sudo mount /dev/<devicenamme> /mnt/<devicename>
[01:26] <_3fg> k
[01:27] <ForgeAus> (note: the second one could be any directory really)
[01:27] <fakepatriot> ForgeAus: i know that much, but whenever i try to do it through amarok it crashes...so i need to know how to do it through command line...
[01:27] <ForgeAus> that will be where it is accessible
[01:27] <ForgeAus> BUT one other note...
[01:27] <ForgeAus> there needs to be a /mnt directory existent so you may need to sudo mkdir /mnt/ first
[01:27] <_3fg> I also need a filesystem type
[01:27] <ForgeAus> um... auto?
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> Ah. Found it.
[01:27] <_3fg> heh
[01:27] <kristina> hi, where can I find a list of the colors I can use for grub?
[01:28] <_3fg> that was just what the console said
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Nvm. That's not it.
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Ffs. Doesn't Kubuntu put the kernel source on there by default?
[01:28] <ForgeAus> sorry fake I odn't think I can help you
[01:28] <ForgeAus> Max I don't think so
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> :S
[01:29] <ForgeAus> it tends to be missing headers for lots of things unless you specifically add them
[01:29] <ForgeAus> (to streamline it, most people don't need them)
[01:29] <spheard> http://gallery01.moonet.co.uk/
[01:29] <spheard> whoops
[01:29] <spheard> didnt mean to paste that
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Gentoo is like an open source tank.
[01:30] <ForgeAus> yeah
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Everything you install is meant to be open source. :d
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Well, point is that you compile things from source.
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> So there isn't any easy way to configure your kernel?
[01:31] <ForgeAus> I don't know for sure I havn't tried in Kubuntu
[01:31] <ForgeAus> !kernel
[01:31] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:32] <spheard> has anyone heard anything about ndiswrapper causing kernel crashes in 7.04?
[01:32] <_3fg> ForgeAus: is there know way to mount it in Kubuntu using the GUI?
[01:32] <ForgeAus> I've heard of ndiswrapper but nothing about crashes in feisty
[01:32] <spheard>  ForgeAus:bit of a mess really
[01:32] <ForgeAus> 3fg yes in the system settings (administrative mode)
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Kubuntu default control centre ftl. :P
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> No idea why they did it that way.
[01:33] <_3fg> I click administrator mode and the window just sort of empties out
[01:34] <_3fg> all the items in the window disappear
[01:34] <ForgeAus> 3fg it should ask you for your user password
[01:34] <_3fg> it didn't
[01:34] <ForgeAus> brb I'll check where in there the mounting facility is... (I rarely use it)
[01:34] <ForgeAus> (and I'm booted into XP right now)
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> Control Centre > Disk and File systems
[01:35] <ForgeAus> luckily I have a kubuntu install in Vmware
[01:35] <_3fg> Maxdamantus: yeah, I found it fine
[01:35] <_3fg> Whenever I click administrator mode it just gets this red box around the window and sits there
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> _3fg.
[01:38] <ForgeAus> the red box is correct
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> Try in a terminal:
[01:38] <ForgeAus> but the blank window isn't
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> kdesu systemsettings
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> That might work.
[01:38] <dfeser> hi!
[01:38] <ForgeAus> it should run like kdesu the password authentication request...
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> Enter your password when it asks for it.
[01:38] <_3fg> I got it working through another method
[01:38] <_3fg> thanks though
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> I like the manual mounting method. :)
[01:39] <dfeser> i use big desktop setup with fglrx...problems with fgl_glxgears...
[01:39] <_3fg> now I'll probably have to spend two hours adding repositories so I can download codecs so I can watch an avi
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> Just realised, systemsettings is the Kubuntu thing. :S
[01:39] <ForgeAus> also note if the location you mount it to is not under /home/<user> you probably will need to use sudo to write to it....
[01:39] <ForgeAus> Max sure is
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> I don't like it.
[01:40] <ForgeAus> its mostly a front end to kcontrol for the most part
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> I installed the normal KDE, so I could have the normal kde control centre. :P
[01:40] <ForgeAus> integrated with a few other odds and ends
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> Still has systemsettings if I run that though.
[01:40] <ForgeAus> I think of it mostly as a control panel
[01:41] <ForgeAus> (mostly because I'm used to windows - and in that respect, and not many others, macOS)
[01:41] <Maxdamantus> Actually, KDE calls it a Control Centre.
[01:41] <ForgeAus> KDE calls it kcontrol
[01:41] <Maxdamantus> Lol. MacOS is why I don't like systemsettings.
[01:41] <ForgeAus> fair enuff
[01:42] <Maxdamantus> Reminds me of the dreaded time I was trying to find out how much RAM my Mum's friend's Mac had.
[01:42] <_3fg> fuck this, I'll get VLC
[01:42] <ForgeAus> hmmm my virtual machine isn't booting :( oh well
[01:43] <ForgeAus> oh well
[01:43] <ForgeAus> yes vlc is a good program
[01:43] <ForgeAus> !vlc
[01:43] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:44] <ForgeAus> (also called VideoLan Player.. not sure how exactly that gets abbreviated to VLC however)
[01:45] <noiesmo> _3fg, this is useful site for codecs etc ubuntu repos http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[01:47] <ForgeAus> its mostly based on a repository that has some non-free/OSS software...
[01:50] <_3fg> why can't I install VLC
[01:51] <_3fg> telling me I can't install it because I'm missing repos
[01:51] <_3fg> but I added all the repos I could
[01:51] <noiesmo> _3fg, sudo apt-get update
[01:52] <_3fg> I did
[01:52] <_3fg> I'm adding some more
[01:52] <_3fg> there we go
[01:56] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. Where be the location I can add actions to keys?
[01:57] <Maxdamantus> Somewhere in Control centre, can't find it though.
[01:57] <Maxdamantus> Oh. Nvm.
[01:57] <ubuntu_> lo
[01:58] <demon^eye> hehe
[01:58] <demon^eye> back in here
[01:58] <vk2cvr> hi
[01:58] <demon^eye> lo admiral
[01:58] <demon^eye> this time onkabuntu hehe
[01:58] <vk2cvr> hehe
[02:01] <demon^eye> where the heck i add other lang to it?
[02:08] <soon> I need som help with a continously running fan on my Lenovo T60 laptop ... acpi prob maybe ... any suggestions which IRC channel is appropriate ???
[02:12] <Ketanga> hey
[02:12] <flake> hi Ketanga
[02:13] <maltaethiron> hey, is there an apt-get command for installing flash?
[02:13] <LjL> !flash
[02:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:13] <maltaethiron> ty
[02:14] <flake> what does it mean by restricted formats?  non-modifiable source code?
[02:14] <LjL> flake: no, not necessarily. it mostly means patent encumbered
[02:14] <LjL> (i.e. you are, in certain countries, expected to pay royalties if you use those formats)
[02:14] <LjL> MP3 for instance
[02:14] <flake> pay to play lol
[02:15] <LjL> not for given MP3 files, mind you, just for the fact of using an MP3 decoder
[02:15] <flake> ah
[02:15] <LjL> with non-free software such as, say, Winamp, the licenses are paid by the software house
[02:15] <LjL> in the case of Ubuntu, it's up to you
[02:16] <flake> so if I get winamp on ubuntu, I should be covered?
[02:16] <LjL> i don't know really, you'd have to read Winamp's EULA to be sure.
[02:16] <morpheus_> gonna ask what may be a silly question here but......how do you create a crontab event in kubuntu
[02:16] <LjL> which is why, anyway, using alternative formats is encouraged (such as Ogg Vorbis rather than MP3)
[02:16] <flake> thanks, will look into ogg
[02:17] <LjL> morpheus_: if you're talking about the systemwide crontab, just edit /etc/crontab, you should be able to guess the format by looking at existing entries
[02:17] <LjL> morpheus_: or "man crontab"
[02:18] <LjL> flake: (advance warning) don't make the mistake of converting MP3 files to Ogg, though. lossy-to-lossy format conversions are always a bad idea. if you have MP3 files without a non-compressed original source, just keep the MP3 files
[02:18] <flake> cool
[02:18] <LjL> use Ogg when ripping afresh
[02:18] <chijin> not many portable players support ogg
[02:19] <morpheus_> are the entries that are already there so that you can put other commands in hourly, daily and so on, while keeping them in separate files?
[02:19] <LjL> unfortunately true
[02:19] <chijin> a regular ipod user shouldn't rip to ogg
[02:19] <LjL> morpheus_: yes. you may prefer to do that rather than just adding stuff to the main crontab
[02:19] <LjL> why not?
[02:19] <LjL> !rockbox
[02:19] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[02:19] <chijin> LjL: i said regular :P
[02:20] <LjL> chijin: so? a *regular* ipod user who favors free software will get rockbox installed on their ipod
[02:20] <LjL> rather than apple's firmware
[02:21] <morpheus_> thnx LjL
[02:28] <lor3_83> hallo
[02:29] <demon^eye> where i add more fonts/lang to kabuntu ?
[02:29] <demon^eye> anyone>?
[02:30] <demon^eye> i found my self "10x"
[02:30] <lor3_83> !list
[02:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:33] <flake> vlc works good, I like xmms but does it use a MP3 codec or the orbiss decoder?
[02:35] <morpheus_> !cron
[02:35] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[02:36] <demon^eye> btw caffien aint run XviD files :(
[02:55] <whiles> hi everybody
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> Hi.
[02:55] <flake> how do they determine when a version is 'LTS'
[02:56] <whiles> do anyone know a plugin for konqueror/firefox to view mpg files in the browser
[02:56] <_3fg> whenever they feel it would make it shinier-seeming
[02:56] <flake> lol
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> whiles, I believe QuickTime can do that.
[02:56] <_3fg> like Web 2.0
[02:56] <flake> are the older versions still supported
[02:56] <_3fg> no different than anything else, it just sounds nicer
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Try going into Firefox, and type "about:plugins"
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> See if you have quicktime installed.
[02:57] <Hobbsee> flake: the lunar cycle.  aka, magic
[02:58] <PhinnFort> how do i change the language in the as-you-go spellchecker in openoffice?
[02:58] <whiles> Do quicktime for linux exist ??
[02:59] <Maxdamantus> whiles, yes it does.
[02:59] <Maxdamantus> I think Firefox came with it when I used aptitude.
[02:59] <PhinnFort> come on, it can't be that hard?
[02:59] <Assid> okay what would be better
[02:59] <PhinnFort> whiles: not per se, but there is codecs that allows the media players in Linux to play quicktime files
[02:59] <Maxdamantus> PhinnFort...
[03:00] <PhinnFort> ... what?
[03:00] <Assid> updating to 7.01 or fresh install of 701
[03:00] <Maxdamantus> I just opened OpenOffice, never used it before.
[03:00] <Assid> i dont really care much of the data
[03:00] <Maxdamantus> Found the language selector straight away.
[03:00] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: where?
[03:00] <PhinnFort> i must be blind
[03:00] <PhinnFort> :P
[03:00] <Maxdamantus> Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages
[03:00] <PhinnFort> but that sets defaults for the whole app
[03:00] <PhinnFort> i just want for one document
[03:01] <PhinnFort> (there's two separate versions of norwegian, i use one, but need one document in another)
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> Then change it after you've saved that document.
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> The language isn't saved with the document.
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> The spell checking isn't saved inside the document either.
[03:01] <PhinnFort> sure?
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> Spell checking is only done while editing the file.
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> Sure.
[03:02] <PhinnFort> well, i thought the odf had a tag for language
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> If you changed your language to Norwegian, and opened a file done in English.
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> It will underline all words that aren't Norwegian.
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> (With exceptions)
[03:03] <PhinnFort> well, changing that setting still underlines my other norwegian with red...
[03:04] <flake> everytime I reboot, my screen sizes to 1600x1200 - have to drop it down to 1280x1024 so I can see the tiny icons and text - how can i have it boot into 1280x1024
[03:04] <Maxdamantus> flake. sudo nano /etc/xorg.conf
[03:04] <PhinnFort> even though the setting is set to "Nynorsk" (new norwegian), it uses the "Bokml" spellchecker
[03:05] <PhinnFort> flake: try alt+ctrl+-
[03:05] <PhinnFort> flake: also try system settings -> display
[03:05] <PhinnFort> *monitor & display, actually
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> flake, sorry.
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:06] <PhinnFort> guess i'll try google docs thingy, then
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> Oops.
[03:06] <flake> ahh I see.. default display
[03:06] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:06] <flake> thought 24 was 24-bit  heh
[03:07] <flake> as in depth
[03:07] <Maxdamantus> Yea, where is has SubSection "Display" 24
[03:07] <Maxdamantus> Change the order of screen resolutions there. :P
[03:07] <flake> so swap the "1600x1200" with "1280x1024"
[03:07] <flake> ok
[03:07] <Maxdamantus> Mine is:
[03:07] <Maxdamantus>                 Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:08] <PhinnFort> flake: just delete the 1600x1200
[03:08] <Maxdamantus> So by default, uses 1280x1024
[03:08] <linux_> hi alguiien sabes la pagina en espaol
[03:08] <PhinnFort> flake: but you should rather use the Guidance tool
[03:08] <PhinnFort> !es | linux_
[03:08] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:08] <PhinnFort> flake: under system settings
[03:08] <Maxdamantus> Manual owns GUI.
[03:08] <PhinnFort> flake: i don't know how well your own xorg.conf is handled between package updates
[03:08] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: it's quicker, but it's more error prone;)
[03:09] <flake> don't see guidance
[03:09] <flake> I have Settings and System
[03:09] <Maxdamantus> Only started using Kubuntu because I couldn't get my sound card working with Gentoo ;)
[03:09] <PhinnFort> flake: just click System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[03:09] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: what kind of card?
[03:09] <Maxdamantus> Some crappy integrated intel one.
[03:09] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: i used gentoo for 2 years, before my computer got too slow for compiling everything;)
[03:09] <flake> i have the nvidia settings
[03:09] <Maxdamantus> i810
[03:09] <flake> for my card, nvidia 6800gt
[03:09] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: i thought that was supported by in-kernel alsa
[03:10] <Maxdamantus> Apparently.
[03:10] <Maxdamantus> Dw.
[03:10] <PhinnFort> argh... google docs whines about konqueror not being supported
[03:10] <PhinnFort> even though it works perfectly with &browserok=true in the url...
[03:10] <malik__> very old broken record type of question but.................. which one is better photo editing tool...Gimp or KRita?
[03:11] <PhinnFort> malik__: depends
[03:11] <PhinnFort> malik__: try both
[03:11] <flake> oh, why do I only see a Logout option and not a shutdown / reboot ?  using feisty
[03:11] <PhinnFort> flake: you started X manually?
[03:11] <PhinnFort> flake: or KDM is not running
[03:11] <flake> not sure how to restart the X
[03:11] <PhinnFort> flake: just logout
[03:11] <flake> ok brb
[03:11] <PhinnFort> and then type "startx"
[03:11] <PhinnFort> and hit enter
[03:12] <Maxdamantus> flake.
[03:12] <flake> yes
[03:12] <malik__> PhinnFort: geee thats a big help :)............seriously plz which one have more options n better does moast taska?
[03:12] <Maxdamantus> Easier way: ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:12] <Maxdamantus> Restarts the X server and KDM.
[03:12] <PhinnFort> malik__: that's gimp
[03:12] <PhinnFort> Maxd
[03:12] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: that doesn't cleanly shutdown all the programs
[03:12] <flake> thanks
[03:12] <Maxdamantus> PhinnFort, it doesn't need to,
[03:12] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: esp. kontact will complain
[03:12] <malik__> PhinnFort: thanx mate
[03:12] <Maxdamantus> All he really needs to do is shut down X, and open it again.
[03:13] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: but many KDE programs save their settings only when "quittin"
[03:13] <PhinnFort> *g
[03:13] <flake> why do I only have a log out option and not shut down / other options?
[03:13] <PhinnFort> afaik, they don't do that when the x-server borks
[03:13] <flake> i will reboot, wont take long
[03:13] <Maxdamantus> Ok then, log out, then ctrl + alt + backspace.
[03:13] <PhinnFort> flake: did you do "startx" manually?
[03:13] <flake> not yet
[03:13] <malik__> oki guys one more question...i am personally happy with default adept package installer but some people in the chat forums praise automatix2, is it good or not worth bothering about?
[03:14] <PhinnFort> flake: if you only see log out, it means that KDM is not running
[03:14] <PhinnFort> afaik
[03:14] <Maxdamantus> PhinnFort, startx doesn't start KDM though.
[03:14] <flake> kde is
[03:14] <PhinnFort> malik__: it's not for the same task, afaik
[03:14] <Maxdamantus> All it does is it starts your last session.
[03:14] <PhinnFort> flake: log out, and you should get to a command line
[03:14] <PhinnFort> or to KDM
[03:14] <PhinnFort> flake: if you get to the command line, type "sudo reboot" to reboot
[03:14] <Maxdamantus> kdm starts kdm.
[03:14] <PhinnFort> flake: or if you get to KDM, choose System -> Reboot
[03:15] <flake> ok brb
[03:17] <Maxdamantus> Wtf? Why does Kubuntu have all the portage directories by default?
[03:17] <Maxdamantus> Oh. Nvm, that's my Gentoo partition. :S
[03:18] <PhinnFort> ?
[03:18] <PhinnFort> lol
[03:18] <flake> lol
[03:18] <Maxdamantus> Work?
[03:18] <flake> the screen display is at 1280x1024, the workspace at 1600x1200
[03:18] <flake> move the mouse to the extents
[03:18] <PhinnFort> flake: did you go to system settings?=
[03:19] <flake> no I edited the xorg file
[03:19] <flake> dont have a system settings
[03:19] <flake> I have a system and a settings and an nvidia control panel
[03:19] <PhinnFort> alt+f2 "krandrtray"
[03:19] <PhinnFort> then
[03:20] <PhinnFort> you should get an applet in your systray, that you can click to select resolution
[03:20] <enemyz> Ok, noob question. How do I get Java to work with Koqueror? Can I Apt-get some package that solves in? :P
[03:20] <PhinnFort> and when it's fixed, hit alt+f2 again, and type in "systemsettings" and hit enter
[03:20] <PhinnFort> !java | enemyz
[03:20] <ubotu> enemyz: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:20] <enemyz> !java
[03:20] <enemyz> not like that..
[03:21] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[03:21] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:21] <flake> in nvidia control panel there is a save to x file I didn't notice before
[03:21] <flake> maybe need to change it back and use that
[03:22] <PhinnFort> flake: did you try to run "systemsettings"?
[03:22] <flake> on start menu I have System and then a Settings and then a System Menu
[03:22] <flake> brb
[03:23] <malik__> what is a good resolution for 19inch monitor?
[03:24] <PhinnFort> malik__: i use 1600x1200
[03:24] <Maxdamantus> Depends how big 19 inches is.
[03:24] <PhinnFort> malik__: again, try for yourself
[03:24] <Maxdamantus> Yea, try for yourself.
[03:24] <PhinnFort> malik__: it can depend on the focus of your monitor too
[03:25] <Maxdamantus> My monitor is designed for 1024x768, but I use 1280x1024
[03:25] <compilerwriter> Is there a way to tell Konqueror that I do want a certain web site to be allowed to make pop-ups.  I am either blind or it is not in an intuitive place.
[03:25] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: it's somewhere under settings -> javasrcipt
[03:25] <flake> back
[03:25] <PhinnFort> flake: click on "run command" and then type in "systemsettings" and hit enter
[03:25] <compilerwriter> thanks PhinnFort
[03:25] <PhinnFort> if it's still borked
[03:25] <flake> i did, bad command
[03:26] <flake> i'm using feisty
[03:26] <PhinnFort> flake: type in "kcontrol" then
[03:27] <flake> under which expandable item
[03:27] <PhinnFort> flake: in "run command"
[03:27] <PhinnFort> and hit enter
[03:27] <flake> yes i have the control center up
[03:27] <flake> under which expandable item do i find this display at
[03:28] <PhinnFort> search
[03:28] <PhinnFort> for display, click on "Monitor & Display"
[03:28] <PhinnFort> the giudance tool should embed itself in the right part of the window
[03:28] <PhinnFort> *guidance
[03:29] <PhinnFort> ok?
[03:29] <flake> it didnt find monitor at all
[03:29] <flake> or Monitor & Display, comes up with service manager
[03:30] <PhinnFort> !find guidance
[03:30] <ubotu> Found: kde-guidance, kde-guidance-powermanager
[03:30] <PhinnFort> !info kde-guidance
[03:30] <ubotu> kde-guidance: collection of KDE system administration tools for GNU/Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 956 kB, installed size 3884 kB
[03:30] <PhinnFort> flake: check if you have kde-guidance installed
[03:30] <flake> maybe I don't have guidance installed
[03:30] <flake> would it screw up my nvidia driver?
[03:30] <PhinnFort> nope
[03:31] <llutz> hi
[03:31] <PhinnFort> !hi | llutz
[03:31] <flake> apt-getting it now
[03:31] <ubotu> llutz: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:31] <PhinnFort> good
[03:31] <PhinnFort> flake: i thought it would be included in kubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <flake> looking for something more universal though as I use gnome too
[03:31] <flake> and want to try out icevm among other things
[03:32] <PhinnFort> flake: well, Guidance just edits the Xorg config file
[03:33] <PhinnFort> which is an X.org file
[03:33] <PhinnFort> which should be shared between everything
[03:33] <Maxdamantus> Grr.. I don't get this bloody vmware.
[03:33] <PhinnFort> try Qemu then
[03:33] <PhinnFort> or VirtualBox
[03:34] <Maxdamantus> Nah, vmware looks cooler. :D
[03:34] <PhinnFort> lol
[03:34] <Maxdamantus> And I've already had Qemu working, so not really a challenge.
[03:34] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: with KQemu?
[03:35] <PhinnFort> try Xen then
[03:35] <llutz> Maxdamantus: try to install FreeBSD into Virtualbox, THAT's a challenge :((
[03:45] <whiles> i have a problem with videos, sometime while i'm whatching a video everything crashes and the screen becomes black, and the area where the video was viewed becomes becomes striped (i'm sorry about my bad english :P)
[03:45] <Maxdamantus> Sweet, got vmware working. :D
[03:45] <Maxdamantus> Running Gentoo install.. Gonna try installing it as vmware to my portable hdd.
[03:46] <PhinnFort> i'm soon rebooting to try Fedora and Arch Linux
[03:46] <PhinnFort> whiles: sounds like a problem with your graphics card or it's drivers
[03:47] <flake> ahh had to reboot after install of kde-guidance, see the monitor and display now
[03:47] <whiles> yes i have an old trident ALi accelerator blade, only 16 mb
[03:47] <whiles> should I install any driver?
[03:48] <PhinnFort> whiles: i don't think that would help
[03:48] <PhinnFort> whiles: you could try to type "dmesg | tail" after it has happened and file a bug with what comes up
[03:50] <Pdot> fetzig
[03:50] <PhinnFort> que?
[03:55] <flake> so editing the xorg didnt work for me and saving to the X file from the nvidia control panel didn't, but this Monitor & Display thing did, thanks
[03:55] <PhinnFort> you're welcome;)
[03:59] <flake> now the fonts look huge to me
[04:00] <PhinnFort> flake: you can set them in KControl
[04:02] <Flaked> Flakes i hate you
[04:02] <flake> why is that Flaked
[04:02] <Flaked> Becuase you stole a part of my nick.
[04:03] <flake> no i didn't
[04:03] <aberen> Heh..
[04:03] <flake> i wanted this nic
[04:03] <flake> but couldnt get it
[04:03] <Flaked> I had it first, die
[04:03] <aberen> Come on guys, kiss and make up :)
[04:03] <flake> lol  you can have it
[04:03] <flake_plagarist> there
[04:03] <flake_plagarist> tis urs
[04:04] <Flaked> I just told you, you stole PART_____ of my nick
[04:04] <Flaked> i didnt say "flake"
[04:04] <Flaked> YOU ARE EMO DIE
[04:04] <flake_plagarist> i don't get it
[04:04] <aberen> ... wtf
[04:04] <aberen> that guy was weird
[04:04] <PhinnFort> wtf
[04:04] <flake_plagarist> he prob gonna hack me now
[04:04] <aberen> Haha
[04:04] <jikanter> Could someone please tell me how to change the kcalendar settings in feisty to show 1:00 pm instead of 13:00 hours (i.e. canonical/army time)? Much appreciated in advance
[04:04] <Flaked> Hi
[04:05] <PhinnFort> flake_plagarist: if you meet him, tell him to try to "hack" me
[04:05] <aberen> hey again
[04:05] <flake_plagarist> hi
[04:06] <PhinnFort> !hi | Flaked
[04:06] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[04:06] <ubotu> Flaked: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:06] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:06] <Flaked> hi aberen, is you happy now?
[04:06] <PhinnFort> hesa is happy all the time
[04:06] <aberen> What, why ?
[04:06] <Flaked> YOU DONT KNOW HIM LIKE I DO
[04:06] <PhinnFort> i so do
[04:07] <Flaked> Your mom knows him
[04:07] <Flaked> lol
[04:07] <Flaked> LOL
[04:07] <Flaked> ILOL!!! INTERNET
[04:07] <aberen> phinnfort and i, are like this man
[04:08] <aberen> we are so tight
[04:08] <aberen> :)
[04:08] <Flaked> Eww
[04:08] <PhinnFort> ;)
[04:08] <Flaked> you have secks
[04:08] <Flaked> Joor motharfuckers
[04:08] <aberen> Haha
[04:08] <PhinnFort> now, we kill lusers together
[04:08] <PhinnFort> *no
[04:08] <flake_plagarist> lol
[04:08] <aberen> HAhaa
[04:08] <PhinnFort> one by one, ridding the world
[04:09] <aberen> christ.. today when i booted up beryl it was all laggy.. worked fine yesterday
[04:10] <PhinnFort> aberen: updated your gfx-card drivers?
[04:10] <aberen> Yeah did so yesterday
[04:10] <aberen> should try a reinstall though
[04:10] <fake-flake> I need to find an old cd for mw2 - mercs - I just discovered wine under the control panel allows me to run windows98 among other versions
[04:11] <fake-flake> doh!  control center
[04:11] <fake-flake> slaps self on hand
[04:12] <aberen> Heh :=
[04:14] <martinjh99> How do you configure another panel??  I added one by right clicking and adding a panel but now I can't configure it - It always configures the one with the menu on it.
[04:15] <pag> martinjh99, use kcontrol instead of system settings
[04:16] <fake-flake> desktop background when I right-click seems to take precedence over the control center's background
[04:17] <martinjh99> Pag>Which option do I need?
[04:17] <fake-flake> when i have no picture selected, cant use kcontrol to add one
[04:17] <martinjh99> Pag>Got it thanks!
[04:17] <pag> martinjh99, np :)
[04:20] <joe7d6> folks whats your usual kde memory usage?
[04:21] <PhinnFort> about 100% with a pre-emptive kernel;)
[04:21] <shinygerbil> right now, 400,420KB used
[04:21] <shinygerbil> also 298,780KB swap used
[04:22] <NiceGuyUK> Cpu(s):  3.3%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 59.1%id, 37.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[04:22] <NiceGuyUK> minimal ;)
[04:22] <NiceGuyUK> oh wait, he said *memory*
[04:23] <joe7d6> lol
[04:23] <NiceGuyUK> Cpu(s):  3.3%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 59.1%id, 37.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[04:23] <NiceGuyUK> dammit wrong buffer
[04:24] <NiceGuyUK> Handy Kubuntu hint of the day : don't mix Klipper and Beer :o)
[04:30] <flake> does anyone use kplato
[04:30] <mike_deuss> hi how can I install Tar.gz file I downloaded to my desktop?
[04:33] <flake> mike_deuss  -   man tar
[04:33] <flake> in a terminal
[04:33] <flake> think it's like  tar xzf ...tar.gz
[04:34] <mike_deuss> Flake can u tell me the commands
[04:34] <NiceGuyUK> mike_deuss: tar -zxvf filenar.tar.gz
[04:34] <mike_deuss> tar.gz after that how do I select the file
[04:34] <mike_deuss> what is filenar
[04:35] <flake> what file did you download
[04:35] <flake> is it third party?
[04:35] <mike_deuss> hold on  I will send u Flake
[04:35] <NiceGuyUK> filename, not filenar - my bad typing :)
[04:35] <prac> kien abla espanhol kaniho??
[04:35] <NiceGuyUK> !make
[04:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:35] <mike_deuss> Flake this is the file
[04:35] <mike_deuss> opera-9.20-20070409.6-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz
[04:35] <mike_deuss> no its' not from third party
[04:35] <NiceGuyUK> opera is in the repos, you shouldn;t need to build from source
[04:36] <NiceGuyUK> just do sudo aptitude install opera instead
[04:36] <mike_deuss> guys pls tell me how to install that
[04:36] <flake> or synaptic file manager, do a search
[04:36] <prac> sois tos unos frikosos de tres pares de kojones y unos caxops de mierda cn ojos q solo os comeis las moscas xq no teneis vida social pedazo de frikis abstemios  e ijos de puta mal paridos en un parto ilegal de monos del africa subsahariana
[04:36] <pag> !es | prac
[04:36] <ubotu> prac: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:36] <mike_deuss> I am using Kubuntu
[04:37] <NiceGuyUK> mike_deuss: instead of Synaptic, use adept ;)
[04:37] <flake> nice - why adept over synap?
[04:37] <mike_deuss> adept  and?
[04:37] <NiceGuyUK> I thought synaptic was the ubuntu/gnome tool, adept was the kubutnu/kde one
[04:38] <Yorokobi> Synaptic works quite well in KDE
[04:38] <NiceGuyUK> didn;'t think synaptic was installed by default though ;)
[04:38] <Yorokobi> Its not
[04:38] <flake> ah
[04:38] <flake> System -> adept manager  ?
[04:38] <NiceGuyUK> yup
[04:38] <mike_deuss> opera-9.20-20070409.6-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz  this file in my desktop noiw
[04:39] <flake> nice - do they point to the same repos
[04:39] <mike_deuss> how do I  install in command line
[04:39] <NiceGuyUK> flake: they both use /etc/apt/sources.list, so yes
[04:39] <flake> thanks
[04:39] <Yorokobi> mike_deuss: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[04:39] <NiceGuyUK> mike_deuss: untar the file using tar-zxvf opera-9.20... (put full filename here)
[04:39] <Yorokobi> oh ... hehe
[04:40] <flake> you can type like  opera-9 and hit the tab key twice to autotype it in
[04:40] <phpcode> how can i get a list of programs that are running now?
[04:40] <flake> in the shell
[04:40] <NiceGuyUK> with all due respect, if you don't know how to untar the file, maybe you shouldn't be installing it this way
[04:40] <mike_deuss> Yorokobi for the package  name do I have to type like this opera-9.20-20070409.6-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz
[04:40] <NiceGuyUK> phpcode: top
[04:40] <flake> i've done it before with the nvidia driver
[04:40] <phpcode> NiceGuyUK: ??
[04:40] <Yorokobi> mike_deuss: actually, disregard what I told you. apt-get doesn't install .tar.g
[04:40] <pag> phpcode, ps -A  shows all the processes
[04:40] <Yorokobi> +z
[04:40] <mike_deuss> ok
[04:41] <flake> doesn't opera website have instructions for linux install?
[04:41] <mike_deuss> no Flake
[04:42] <pag> mike_deuss, they actually have even an ubuntu .deb
[04:42] <NiceGuyUK> (which you can install using dpkg -i blahblah.deb)
[04:42] <mike_deuss> yes  I got file like this Pag opera_9.20-20070409.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[04:42] <phpcode> pag: how to end processes?
[04:42] <flake> what about sudo dpkg -i opera*.deb  ?
[04:43] <Yorokobi> phpcode: 'man ps' and 'man kill'
[04:43] <pag> phpcode, kill <process ID>
[04:43] <NiceGuyUK> flake : that'd do it
[04:43] <phpcode> k. ty.
[04:43] <mike_deuss> I got this message @status database area is locked by another process
[04:43] <NiceGuyUK> mike_deuss: close any running package managemtn tools first
[04:43] <mike_deuss> okay
[04:47] <NiceGuyUK> Is opera in the repos somewhere, or is it missing due to some licensing quirk?
[04:47] <Yorokobi> !info opera
[04:47] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:48] <NiceGuyUK> seveas? what's that?
[04:48] <Yorokobi> It might be in the commercial repos
[04:48] <NiceGuyUK> !info seveas
[04:48] <ubotu> Package seveas does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:49] <bentob0x> ok great
[04:49] <bentob0x> I did a chgrp -R groupname /*
[04:49] <bentob0x> ffs
[04:49] <bentob0x> with sudo in front of it of course
[04:49] <bentob0x> now it's all strange
[04:49] <bentob0x> can't startup skype
[04:50] <bentob0x> I mean can't setup the sound devices and stuff
[04:53] <bentob0x> is it not possible to get a warning when you do such a thing?
[04:53] <bentob0x> to avoid stupid noobs like me to make mistakes that you need to reinstall your entire os?
[04:55] <flake> bentob0x - with no mistakes how do we learn
[04:55] <bentob0x> true
[04:55] <flake> you try googlying the error message?
[04:55] <bentob0x> although you can get some line of code in chgrp that if you have chgrp + /* to display a confirmation error
[04:55] <bentob0x> message I mean
[04:56] <bentob0x> to say: "are you sure you want to reinstall your os?"
[04:56] <bentob0x> :)
[04:56] <flake> it's not as bad as it seems
[04:56] <bentob0x> I CTRL+C it after I realised it was a bit much
[04:57] <bentob0x> the folders /bin /boot /cdrom and /etc where changed
[04:57] <flake> the second time of being a linux newcomer and messing up my video display, my panic kind of went away and I read thru some documentation on how the stuff worked before I got it working with success
[04:57] <bentob0x> not the ones after that
[04:57] <NiceGuyUK> speaking of which, anyone else hat the KDE reboot text that says "reboot (another operating system)" - no, I'm happy with my OS thanks, I just want to reboot it
[04:58] <shinygerbil> I haven't seen it - no reason to reboot for several weeks ;)
[04:59] <flake> don't know what that means bent - i mean the implications of having the bin boot cdrom and etc changed
[04:59] <NiceGuyUK> shinygerbil: laptop ;)
[04:59] <flake> you try reinstalling skype?
[04:59] <shinygerbil> heh
[04:59] <bentob0x> yep
[04:59] <bentob0x> no luck
[04:59] <shinygerbil> i'm on a laptop too - but I never take it anywhere
[05:00] <bentob0x> the thing is that I'm getting a 'problem with sound device'
[05:00] <zero1> hello guys! anybody here had any luck trying to make a laptop hibernate on feisty? :D
[05:00] <bentob0x> so my understanding is that the chgrp has affected some file in the /etc folder
[05:00] <Yorokobi> bentob0x: you could try setting everything to the root group then use dpkg-reconfigure to rework specific package permissions ... might be faster to reinstall, though.
[05:00] <NiceGuyUK> shinygerbil: just moved house, desktops not set up yet, so laptop is my main work machine. Only one that sucks at uptime ;)
[05:00] <bentob0x> hmm, that's something to try Yorokobi
[05:01] <NiceGuyUK> zero1: yeah, worked out of the box for me
[05:01] <flake> http://forum.linspire.com/viewtopic.php?t=422180&
[05:01] <shinygerbil> NiceGuyUK: my lappy is my *only* machine, I'm a student. ;)
[05:01] <flake> found that topic
[05:01] <flake> lol Yorokobi
[05:01] <zero1> what is your laptop NiceGuyUK?
[05:02] <NiceGuyUK> zero1: Advent 7086
[05:02] <zero1> and hibernate works with you too shinygerbil?
[05:02] <bentob0x> I think skype works ok, it's my sound device
[05:02] <zero1> how much swap space do you have?  mine complains that i haven't got enought when in fact i got 3Gb of swap, 2x the memory i got
[05:03] <bentob0x> anybody would know how to do some 'reset' of the sound devices?
[05:03] <shinygerbil> zero1, I've no idea, because I don't use it!
[05:03] <ioena_> hi!
[05:03] <Yorokobi> bentob0x: sound devices should be chown root:audio (eg: /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, etc)
[05:03] <zero1> you don't use hibernate shiny?
[05:03] <shinygerbil> nope
[05:04] <shinygerbil> my lappy is too heavy to carry around
[05:04] <shinygerbil> and it's kind of tied to my external hard drive
[05:04] <NiceGuyUK> zero1: I tend to use suspend more than hibernate
[05:04] <bentob0x> you mean owner root and group audio Yorokobi?
[05:04] <shinygerbil> and xternal CD drive
[05:04] <zero1> what is it?  a big Alienware lappy? LOLz
[05:04] <Yorokobi> bentob0x: yep
[05:04] <shinygerbil> zero1, nah. Hold on, I'll find it for you
[05:04] <ioena_> someone knows how to open files in lan I can see all files but i cant open them whithout coppying them to my computer
[05:04] <bentob0x> k I just realised that all my devices are all root:root
[05:05] <zero1> can you tell me please, NiceGuyUK, how much swap you got on your machine?
[05:05] <bentob0x> is that /dev/snd Yorokobi?
[05:05] <NiceGuyUK> zero1: sure, if you remind me how to check ;)
[05:05] <Yorokobi> bentob0x: /dev/snd is root:root on my machine
[05:05] <bentob0x> and in that folder?
[05:06] <mahdi> they going to update the kubuntu kde/amarok repos for fiesty sometime soon?
[05:06] <zero1> you just type "free -m" on a console , w/out the quoutes
[05:06] <shinygerbil> zero1, I have 1GB of swap
[05:06] <jhutchins> !v audacity
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <jhutchins> !find audacity
[05:06] <ubotu> Found: audacity
[05:06] <gianny> how i can switch on xgl and use beryl on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:06] <jhutchins> !info audacity
[05:06] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB
[05:07] <Yorokobi> bentob0x: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19135/
[05:07] <NiceGuyUK> zero1: Swap:          635        283        352
[05:07] <ioena_> someone knows how to open files in lan?
[05:07] <ioena_>  I can see all files but i cant open them whithout copying them to my computer
[05:07] <zero1> thankg shiny, nice guy...
[05:08] <gianny>  how i can switch on xgl and use beryl on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:08] <zero1> your system mem not over 1gb?
[05:08] <pag> mahdi, afaik, both Amatok and KDE are already newest versions in Feisty
[05:08] <NiceGuyUK> !beryl
[05:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:08] <Yorokobi> gianny: read the beryl wiki (beryl-project.org)
[05:08] <NiceGuyUK> zero1: 256Mb RAM
[05:08] <gianny> ok
[05:08] <zero1> ok.. .
[05:09] <mahdi> pag: i know that when i fresh installed kubuntu on fiesty it wasn't the same as edgy, i had to manually update for some codecs that were already built-in on the edgy repo
[05:09] <shinygerbil> my mem is half a gb
[05:09] <zero1> hmmm.. . mine should work with 2x my system mem
[05:09] <shinygerbil> also shared w/ gfx card
[05:09] <Lynoure> ioena_: What kind of access are you using to get to the files? There is really no avoiding transferring the files to your computer, at least to memory.
[05:09] <NiceGuyUK> shinygerbil: yeah, shared memory sucks, mine steals 32mb from main RAM
[05:10] <shinygerbil> mine steals 64mb, and is still crap D:
[05:10] <zero1> anyone else here who has hibernate working on a feisty installed on a laptop?
[05:10] <Lynoure> zero1: Hibernate to disk works fine on my lappy
[05:11] <zero1> from out of the box Lynoure?
[05:11] <Lynoure> zero1: I have not tried suspend to memory since replacing a workaround patch with a newer one.
[05:11] <ioena_> Lynoure i type smb://localip on konqueror
[05:11] <Lynoure> zero1: yes. Depends on your hardware, I guess
[05:11] <ioena_> smb://192.168.2.3
[05:12] <zero1> do you have any software installed to handle hibernate to disk or memory Lynoure?
[05:12] <zero1> whoa, what happened?  netsplit?
[05:13] <Lynoure> zero1: Nothing that did not come with feisty for hibernating to disk.
[05:13] <zero1> my friend has a HP pavilion DV2000 and his ubuntu can hibernate fine. the only problem is his sound gets all crackly after resuming
[05:13] <Lynoure> zero1: For suspend, there was a known issue with many HP laptops, including mine, so I'm experimenting with the patch :)
[05:13] <zero1> my compaq presario v3000 has almost the same specs as his pavilion
[05:14] <zero1> which patch is this?
[05:14] <zero1> can you point me to a URL pleas Lynore?
[05:14] <Lynoure> zero1: oh, I rarely use anything else except headphones, so I'm not sure about my speaker sound.
[05:14] <phpcode> i having a problem killing processes here. where are the ID on programs? (ps -A)
[05:14] <zero1> the 1st col from the left phpcode
[05:15] <Yorokobi> phpcode: the first column is the PID
[05:15] <Lynoure> zero1: I cannot remember it, unfortunately.... the link is somewhere in an suspend related bug on Launchpad
[05:16] <zero1> Lynoure: so your lappy is a HP/compaq too?
[05:16] <pascutti> can anyone tell me why ubuntu have the drivers to hp-laserjet-1020 and kubuntu don't?
[05:17] <phpcode> zero1:  bash: kill: (5389) - Operation not permitted
[05:17] <Lynoure> zero1: HP NC8230
[05:17] <ForgeAus> kubuntu doesn't?
[05:17] <NiceguyUK> pascutti: some of the foomatic packages aren't installed by default in kubuntu
[05:17] <zero1> phpcode: sudo first
[05:17] <ForgeAus> isn't it CUPS?
[05:17] <NiceguyUK> pascutti: had the same issue with my eposn
[05:17] <pascutti> NiceguyUK: hmm.. what if I use the 'getweb 1020'? will it works ?
[05:18] <zero1> phpcode: sudo kill -9 PID...something like that
[05:18] <NiceguyUK> pascutti: I would use adept-manager and look for packages containing the word "foomatic" or "gutenprint" and install them all, to ensure you have a complete drivers database
[05:18] <NiceguyUK> its how I fixed mine
[05:18] <phpcode> zero1: can i kill all the processes with the same name?
[05:18] <pascutti> NiceguyUK: okay... Very very thanks :)
[05:19] <NiceguyUK> pascutti: when you try to re-add the printer, it should have more options on the list
[05:19] <zero1> phpcode: you can kill by PID or appname
[05:19] <NiceguyUK> phpcode: like sudo kilall -9 appname
[05:20] <NiceguyUK> with an extra l cos I can;t type
[05:20] <zero1> phpcode: yes, kill is for PID only, killall is for appname
[05:20] <cbo> hello all, does someone know if there is a way to set network priorities to knetworkmanager?
[05:20] <pascutti> I think so... the printer is in a winxp-pc... i connect using smb... in ubuntu it works, but kubuntu...
[05:20] <zero1> phpcode: ps a |grep kvirc
[05:20] <zero1> phpcode: 7271 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep kvirc
[05:21] <zero1> phpcode: sudo kill -9 7271
[05:21] <_Johny> Does anyone know a good password holder under Linux not necessary for Kubuntu?
[05:22] <zero1> _Johny: something like kwallet or a roboform?
[05:22] <phpcode> zero1: Thanks, problem solved :)
[05:22] <zero1> phpcode: glad to be of help ;)
[05:23] <_Johny> zero1, yes, quite but I'd the passwords to be secure
[05:24] <NiceguyUK> _Johny: got some software for that opn my FSF usb key, one second, I'll check
[05:26] <zero1> _Johny: there is this app but i'm not sure if this will work for you
[05:26] <zero1> _Johny: name is keychain
[05:27] <zero1> _Johny: anyway i don't use this, my roomie her says he uses it for ssh authentication
[05:29] <NiceguyUK> _Johny: the one on the FSF Privacy key is called REvelation
[05:29] <_Johny> zero1, NiceguyUK thank you very much guys. I'm gonna try all these tools
[05:29] <NiceguyUK> _Johny: http://oss.codepoet.no/revelation
[05:30] <_Johny> NiceguyUK, Got it in the repos :D. Do you use it?
[05:31] <NiceguyUK> _Johny: no, I stick with KWallet, but if the FSF recommend it, I trust their judegement
[05:32] <_Johny> NiceguyUK, It's written in gtk+ not qt...byt maybe It'll look fine even on KDE
[05:38] <fsckit> anyone here have an unsupported scanner?
[05:38] <aoirthoir> not me.
[05:40] <fsckit> well, if you did, try virtualbox. mine's too new to be supported and it works transparently through windows now
[05:40] <joe7d6> anyone who use krita over gimp, koffice over openoffice?
[05:41] <flake> does anyone know why anim8or.exe running under wine doesn't redraw properly - is there an adjustment for it?
[05:42] <VSpike> Hey guys - what's the best desktop search system for KDE?  Does Beagle work well with it?
[05:42] <VSpike> I used Evolution for mail FWIW
[05:43] <koomi> aloha
[05:44] <ForgeAus> isn't there a kde thing for beagle? called kerry or something?
[05:45] <koomi> (fresh install & first time kubuntu) my bash completition only expands directories but not files.
[05:45] <VSpike> koomi: it is context sensitive to an extent.. perhaps a directory is what's required in this case?
[05:45] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yep. Kerry = KDE frontend for Beagle
[05:46] <koomi> VSpike: for a tar xvzf ? :)
[05:46] <VSpike> For example if you do "tar -xvzf xyz.<tab>" it won't expand "xyz.tar.bz2"
[05:46] <VSpike> heh
[05:46] <ForgeAus> is there any other desktop search engines for kde??
[05:47] <Jucato> strigi
[05:47] <zero1> ForgeAus: there was kat
[05:47] <koomi> VSpike: ok. if we ever meet i need to buy you a beer. stupid me.
[05:48] <VSpike> koomi: lol no problem.  confused the hell out of me the first few times is all
[05:51] <Trackilizer> Hey guys, need your help
[05:52] <Trackilizer> just installed kubuntu fwan. after rebooting however all i get is a bunch of errors and none of the apps seem to start.
[05:52] <Trackilizer> is there anyway to solve this? or what is the code to install the gnome desktop?
[05:54] <Trackilizer> any one?`
[05:55] <NiceguyUK> Trackilizer: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:55] <VSpike> Trackilizer: can you be more specific about the bunch of errors?  if you want to install the gnome desktop, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[05:55] <Trackilizer> NiceguyUK, i cant get to that site cause no browser works
[05:56] <NiceguyUK> frmo the live CD?
[05:57] <Trackilizer> and what is it i will find on than site? the solution to the crashing prob?
[05:57] <NiceguyUK> no, steps on replacing kde with gnome, as per your second request
[05:57] <NiceguyUK> like Vspoike said, you need to be more specific on the errors
[05:57] <Trackilizer> I see, so, some thing like "sudo apt-get install gnome" wont work?
[05:58] <NiceguyUK> it will work, but psychocats way is "cleaner"
[05:58] <Dr_willis> howdy all.
[05:58] <Trackilizer> ok! i'll try that will let you guys know if it works
[06:00] <ForgeAus> you could remove several kde packages if you have gnome
[06:00] <ForgeAus> but thats only if you want/need to save space...
[06:00] <NiceguyUK> yeah, that link basically tells you which one you can remove :)
[06:00] <ForgeAus> but having both gives you the option to log in either way with KDM and/or GDM
[06:00] <ForgeAus> um not certain but there is one
[06:00] <ForgeAus> !KDE
[06:01] <NiceguyUK> there's an equivalent "purekde" link too
[06:01] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:01] <NiceguyUK> www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome and www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:01] <ForgeAus> well I think they xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu purist removal/install packages are all on the one page
[06:01] <ForgeAus> (for all 3)
[06:02] <ForgeAus> I just forgot the url
[06:02] <NiceguyUK> all useful info, but I always forget it and have to google for it every time ;-)
[06:03] <ForgeAus> ok well that should work (I don't think its the one I meant but psychocats appears to have it)
[06:04] <ferox> !compiz
[06:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:06] <pc3> hola
[06:06] <pc3> estoy estrenando Kubuntu version 6.06
[06:07] <Jucato> !es
[06:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:07] <pc3> deseo instalar el amsn
[06:07] <pc3> ok gracias
[06:11] <mzanfardino> I have a script I would like to execute at login.  I have placed the script into my .kde/Autostart directory and have ensured it's executable, but I'm fairly certain it's not running.  Is there something I should do?
[06:11] <zaza> ciao
[06:13] <zaza> qualcuno sa dirmi come faccio a istallare la lingua italianan dopo aver installato kubuntu 7.04
[06:13] <zaza> ????
[06:13] <NiceguyUK> !it
[06:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:14] <zaza> ok grazie
[06:14] <NiceguyUK> prego
[06:16] <blekos> hi is there any program like total commander for kde?
[06:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:16] <Jucato> !info krusader
[06:16] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0~beta1-1 (feisty), package size 2982 kB, installed size 8324 kB
[06:16] <Jucato> blekos: like that? ^^^^
[06:17] <NiceguyUK> !java
[06:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:17] <blekos> yes so, let me give it a try
[06:18] <mzanfardino> if I want a scrip to execute at login, do I merely place it in my home .kde/Autostart directory and ensure it's executable, or is there something more I need to do?
[06:18] <omega> I have a question. If I install something, not form apt-get, but by doing make install, is there any command to "uninstall" it later?
[06:19] <Jucato> omega: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[06:19] <Yorokobi> omega: rm is the uninstaller for non-deb installs
[06:19] <omega> even if it's somwthing I downloades and installed on my own and not from apt get?
[06:20] <omega> I see
[06:20] <omega> hehe... rm
[06:20] <korn__> hello
[06:20] <Jucato> if you installed it on your own? depends on how you installed it?
[06:20] <omega> make install
[06:20] <Jucato> if it's a .deb package, you use dpkg (or apt-get too)
[06:20] <omega> that's how
[06:20] <Jucato> ah you nave to use "make uninstall"
[06:20] <hsystem-x> Hello, is there any spanish kubuntu channel?
[06:20] <omega> no, it's not a .deb
[06:20] <Jucato> !es | hsystem-x
[06:20] <Yorokobi> !es | hsystem-x
[06:20] <omega> make uninstall?
[06:20] <ubotu> hsystem-x: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:21] <Jucato> omega: yes. the reverse of "make install"
[06:21] <Jucato> !compile | omega
[06:21] <ubotu> omega: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:21] <omega> thanks a lot
[06:22] <Jucato> omega: um.. "make uninstall" will only work in the directory where you ran "make install" (if you haven't deleted it)
[06:22] <JohnFlux> !skim
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <Jucato> or the directory where the Makefile is located
[06:22] <Jucato> !info skim
[06:22] <ubotu> skim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1236 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[06:22] <JohnFlux> !scim
[06:22] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[06:22] <omega> I see
[06:23] <omega> If I deleted de directory, then, I can delet where it's installed and that's it?
[06:23] <blekos> yes, krusader is great thnx
[06:23] <Jucato> omega: you'll have to trace every single file that was installed when you ran "make install", but basically, yeah that would work
[06:24] <omega> well, thanks
[06:24] <hsystem-x> anybody here, knows what's happening with the last feisty kernel... it freeze the hole system when trying to connect to a wireless wpa protected network.
[06:24] <hsystem-x> ?
[06:24] <hsystem-x> latest***
[06:24] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[06:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:26] <NiceguyUK> hsystem-x: I've not seen any updates using aptitude since Feisty was released.  When was this kernel release?
[06:26] <flake> take it easy yall, thanks again for the help
[06:27] <ferox> yesterday i updated kde
[06:28] <hsystem-x> well, for example, the feisty beta distro, use a different kernel than the one that the released one use.
[06:28] <ferox> now every tima i start an app
[06:28] <ferox> it appears on desktop his own ico
[06:28] <ferox> i think it's cool but i cannot find where to configure its beaviour
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. not sure what you are meaning ferox.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> the running app adds an extra icon to the desktop?
[06:31] <aaroncampbell> How long does it usually take for new releases of programs to make it into the repos?  For example, ktorrent released 2.1.4 (fixed major crashes) on April 23, I think Thunderbird 2 came out on Apr 17, and now Pidgin 2 (the new GAIM is out).  I'm wondering when we might see these
[06:31] <blekos> i've just installed a program (krusader) but the menu appears in Greek (my location)  but i wanted to be in english, how can i fix that?
[06:31] <hsystem-x> NiceguyUK: feisty beta, use a different kernel, than the one the released feisty use
[06:32] <ferox> Dr_willis: yes i'm sure
[06:32] <NiceguyUK> hsystem-x: I can connect to a WPA network at home fine, under both Beta and REleased versions of Feisty
[06:32] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell: depends on the package maintainer(s)
[06:32] <Jucato> aaroncampbell: that really depends on the availability of people who will package it
[06:33] <Jucato> aaroncampbell: you can try asking in #ubuntu-motu (for universe/multiverse packages) or #kubuntu-devel (for kde packages in main)
[06:33] <ferox> Dr_willis: it'snot a regular icon , right cicking on it it appears a menu called backstep preferences
[06:33] <phpcode> how to install php?
[06:33] <NiceguyUK> !php
[06:33] <Dr_willis> ferox,  Hmm.. first ive ever heard of that.
[06:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:34] <Yorokobi> ferox: remove backstep
[06:34] <Yorokobi> !info backstep
[06:34] <ubotu> backstep: Draws icons for minimized windows on your desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 28 kB, installed size 120 kB
[06:34] <NiceguyUK> !info backstep
[06:34] <mistic> he
[06:34] <mistic> hey*
[06:34] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[06:34] <Dr_willis> sounds like a feature. :)
[06:34] <mistic> is there some1 here who can help me with "webmin" ?
[06:35] <blekos> i've just installed a program (krusader) but the menu appears in Greek (my location)  but i wanted to be in english, how can i fix that?
[06:35] <mistic> I've installed it, but now I don't know why, when I try to connect to it it doesn't work...
[06:35] <Dr_willis> mistic,  last few times ive used webmin. ive had to go get the source. and use them. many linux disrtos are not  supporting it much. since its considered a bit of a security issue.
[06:35] <ForgeAus> sounds like a bug disguised as a "feature"
[06:36] <ferox> Yorokobi: how can i find backstep configuration?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> webmin may be locked down some by default. try the https://localhost:10000 address
[06:36] <Yorokobi> ferox: dunno, I've never used it.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> try man backstep :)
[06:37] <ferox> http://backstep.sourceforge.net/
[06:37] <ferox> :)
[06:37] <mistic> Dr_willis: thx I'm going to try now
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I right click on a backstep minimized window and get a menyu for its preferances.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> rather minimal.
[06:37] <ferox> [quote] Simple to use. You don't have to configure anything - just run 'backstep'.[/quote] 
[06:37] <Dr_willis> but heck it could be handy for some users.
[06:38] <Dr_willis> backstep --help
[06:38] <Dr_willis> has some info
[06:38] <Yorokobi> 'sudo dpgk --purge backstep' will fix it as well
[06:38] <Yorokobi> s/dpgk/dpkg/
[06:40] <JohnFlux> !scim
[06:40] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[06:40] <mistic> webmin doesn't work at https://localhost:10000
[06:41] <Dr_willis> mistic,  i would say start the service from a terminal., check its logs or error messages.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> webmin is a neat idea. that is slowly getting less and less support.  i like the tool also. but rarely need it any more.
[06:41] <Jucato> !webmin
[06:41] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> im suprised its still in the repos.
[06:42] <Jucato> it isn't
[06:42] <Dr_willis> in which case he should check the webmin homepage/docs. :)
[06:42] <NiceguyUK> maybe we should make a "DebMin" :-)
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Iceweaslemin
[06:43] <ForgeAus> hehe
[06:43] <NiceguyUK> Weminmin - for adminstering webmin
[06:43] <ForgeAus> Kmin?
[06:43] <ForgeAus> or Wadmin?
[06:44] <Yorokobi> or "learn-how-to-use-your-apps-so-you-do-not-need-a-crutch-like-webmin"
[06:44] <Dr_willis> webmin has some nice features. but with most disrtos including helper tools. I rarely need it any more.
[06:45] <Jucato> "learn-how-to-use-your-apps-so-you-do-not-need-a-crutch-like-webmin"-min
[06:45] <Dr_willis> dident  redhat have some similer tool ages ago.  an all-in-one configuration tool.
[06:46] <ForgeAus> which apps does it administer?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> webmin? its modular so it can do a lot of things.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> one issue i recall with installing it on a system ages ago. the dependenciues for it also isntalled all the services it could 'administer' so i accidently installed ftp/www/other services i dident need. :)
[06:49] <ForgeAus> ftp isn't a program...
[06:49] <ForgeAus> neither is www
[06:49] <Dr_willis> i never said it was.. webmin admins services...
[06:49] <ForgeAus> services are tho.. generally speaking
[06:50] <ForgeAus> cant' you use system settings to start/stop services?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> of course how to you 'administer' an 'app' :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> theres a dozen+ ways to do anything in linux.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> that seems to be a 'rule of linux'
[06:50] <Dr_willis> webmin can also do a lot of other things. backups,  tweak runlevels, install packages, search packages.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> printer config, samba configs, ect..
[06:51] <Dr_willis> but its considered a security risk. so its slowly being killed off. Guess thats a good thing.
[06:52] <killermach_> I have a pavilion a712n PC with Intel i845GV video chipset (as per lshw) I installed kubuntu with a KVM installed and it selected generic video/vesa, I'm trying to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, what video driver do I use?
[06:53] <kgx> help me...reinstalled grub..windows aint booting!
[06:53] <killermach_> been googling.. no results yet
[06:53] <killermach_> kgx: what error do you get ?
[06:53] <kgx> killermach_: it says loading stage2....then goes back to grub menu
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[06:54] <Dr_willis> why did you reinstall grub? what was wrong with it befor?
[06:54] <killermach_> if you have to have windows NOW, then you can boot the winxp CD choose recovery console and do a FIXMBR, windows should boot
[06:54] <kgx> Dr_willis: i installed sick mandriva n it didnt recognise my ubuntu or mount other partitions so i reinstalled the kubuntu grub...
[06:55] <kgx> killermach_: im not in a hurry...but i want things back as they were before plz
[06:56] <killermach_> kgx: if you don't have to fix this immediately.. I would google for a grub config file that closely matches your hardware/partition config and copy it so grub will work
[06:56] <kgx> killermach_: i think i'll be able to boot windows using super grub disk.....but how to get things back as they were?
[06:56] <mistic__> hi, how to know my hostname ?
[06:56] <kgx> killermach_: my windows entry looks like this
[06:56] <kgx> title		Windows XP
[06:56] <kgx> root		(hd0,0)
[06:56] <kgx> savedefault
[06:56] <kgx> makeactive
[06:56] <kgx> chainloader	+1
[06:57] <kgx> sorry i had to paster here
[06:57] <kgx> anything wrong with it??
[06:57] <killermach_> kgx: you just need to get grub configured to properly boot your OS's
[06:57] <kgx> killermach_: what do i need to change in menu.lst...i showed u d grub entry for xp
[06:58] <atidem> ciao
[06:58] <kgx> killermach_: plz say sumthin...my bro will kill me
[06:59] <chijin> kgx: the entry looks fine, unless the root is not correct
[06:59] <killermach_> kgx: hold still.. I'm looking
[06:59] <Dr_willis> in the menu.lst - i always just 'uncomment' the first example 'stanza' that loads windows95 - its set to boot hda1/windows by default. :)
[06:59] <chijin> kgx: mine is exactly like that, except for the savedefault line which i don't have
[06:59] <kgx> root? nope..xp is on hda1 for sure...n so is grub installed to mbr..
[07:00] <chijin> kgx: then it should work
[07:01] <kgx> chijin: thx...i'll try it...any other alternatives just in case dat doesnt work
[07:01] <chijin> kgx: so you get no error messages?
[07:01] <kgx> chijin: none at all
[07:01] <kgx> it just smoothly goes back to grub menu
[07:01] <chijin> kgx: that's just weird.. grub should tell you what's wrong, if it doesn't let you boot it
[07:02] <TheCreationist> When I download the Feisty ISO, does that include any patches that have been applied up to that point?  Meaning, are the ISO's on the Ubuntu website daily builds?  Or is it still the original release?
[07:02] <chijin> kgx: what's even weirder i guess, is that you get the grub running again when you select windows
[07:02] <luca> hi everyine
[07:03] <luca> can someone help me in writing a little script?
[07:03] <luca> I need to have kwin replacing beryl upon a suspend call from the system
[07:04] <luca> and then beryl replaced as windows manager as soon as the screen is unlocked
[07:05] <mistic__> my port 10000 is already in use, how to "liberate" it ?
[07:05] <ubuntu> hello
[07:05] <kgx> ok lemme try removin savedefault...lets see........:(
[07:05] <kgx> i'll be back!
[07:05] <chijin> kgx: sounds like it shouldn't matter
[07:06] <The_Machine> Tutorial on joining Kubuntu Feisty to a Windows 2003 domain?
[07:13] <jussi01> !samba | The_Machine
[07:13] <ubotu> The_Machine: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:13] <The_Machine> much obliged
[07:13] <The_Machine> :)
[07:14] <jars> hey leude
[07:16] <yurimxpxman> how do I specify a terminal name with "command > tname"? How are the ttys named?
[07:16] <jars> alle am schlafen hier ?^
[07:17] <pag> !de | jars
[07:17] <ubotu> jars: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:19] <Maine> hello
[07:20] <Maine> someone knows howto launch folders in kiba dock konqueror /home/ dosen't wort
[07:20] <Maine> i also tried creating scripts
[07:21] <Maine> and using kfmclient
[07:21] <Maine> but nothing!
[07:21] <Maine> T_T
[07:21] <Maine> nothing on the web also
[07:23] <Dr_willis> try home:// ?
[07:23] <greg__> yo people
[07:25] <Tm_T> oh noes, are we rooted now?
[07:25] <Maine> home:// dosen't work
[07:26] <fsckit> can anyone here select proprietary in the monitor driver section. i only see nv but i'm sure i'm using the nvidia drivers
[07:27] <Maine> home://me either
[07:28] <Maine> is there any other way to show a directory?
[07:28] <Maine> i have no idea of whats wrong
[07:28] <Maine> there are just shortcuts
[07:29] <sercik> hi!
[07:29] <atidem> restarting X...
[07:29] <sercik> one time i remember that was possible to switch X resolution with a simple press CTRL + alt + +
[07:30] <sercik> now it is possible to do so?
[07:30] <MuJ> yes
[07:30] <adaptr> if the resolutions are defined, yes
[07:30] <MuJ> ctrl-alt- +/-
[07:30] <The_Machine> Anyone here use SWAT for samba administration?
[07:30] <MuJ> and what adaptr said ;P
[07:30] <sercik> The_Machine: what do you need?
[07:31] <sercik> if you need help with smaba you can also use webmin
[07:31] <The_Machine> oh, webmin..  hmm.
[07:31] <fsckit> MuJ, doesn't work for me
[07:31] <The_Machine> lemme look at that.
[07:31] <sercik> is very simpleto set up useres groups and shres
[07:31] <sercik> shares
[07:31] <The_Machine> sercik: i want to join a Windows 2003 domain
[07:31] <The_Machine> not share out
[07:31] <The_Machine> :)
[07:32] <sercik> you need to do smbclient -L //IP_address
[07:32] <Dr_willis> kde has some samba config tool also. Not sure if its isntaled by default however
[07:32] <The_Machine> sercik: that's it?!
[07:32] <sercik> so you can list shared resources
[07:32] <fsckit> can someone tell me if a game/full screen app isn't responding, is there a way to change priority to my task manager or do something  like in windows?
[07:32] <polleke> Hello
[07:33] <sercik> than you cam mount -t smbfs //IP_address/shared_folder /mnt/win2003_shared
[07:33] <sercik> is only an example
[07:33] <ismael_> hi, by installing the new propietary ATI driver, i get a application crash while running aticonfig --initial, printing a memory map. Does anyone has a simmilar problem? (the driver packaged works fine)
[07:34] <sercik> The_Machine: if you want i can follw you a little
[07:35] <The_Machine> i think i'm doing OK now :)
[07:35] <sercik> do you know how can i switch X resolution??
[07:36] <The_Machine> like, on the fly?
[07:36] <hi> /j #vox.
[07:36] <fsckit> sercik, you can download an app called resolution switcher in the repo's
[07:37] <fsckit> sercik, i mainly use the nvidia setting manager though
[07:37] <sanzel> hello every body!
[07:38] <sercik> is not possible to switch with a key combination?
[07:38] <fsckit> sercik, shouldn't be hard to make a script for it and map it to keys
[07:38] <sanzel> what is the topic on this chanel?
[07:38] <Cugel> !compiz
[07:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:39] <sercik> onr time you could insert resolution into X config file and the switch with ctrl + + and ctrl + -
[07:39] <Maine> i discovered howto
[07:40] <Maine> i edited manually the default shortcut and usung url's thanks for the idea Mr_willis
[07:41] <sercik> i have installed nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-27-desktop nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6.15-27-desktop together i think this is an error
[07:42] <sercik> ihave a new card so i could deinstall nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6.15-27-desktop
[07:42] <Maine> using kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing "home:// also works
[07:42] <Maine> whithout "
[07:44] <sercik> fsckit:  whre can i find that app^
[07:44] <sercik> ?
[07:44] <RytmenPinnen> how do I handle rpms in feisty?
[07:44] <hsystem-x> rpm on a debian based system ?
[07:45] <RytmenPinnen> not possible?
[07:45] <hsystem-x> you must convert rpms to deb with alien.
[07:45] <fsckit> sercik, it's in the repo's...resolution switcher
[07:45] <RytmenPinnen> right
[07:45] <hsystem-x> sudo apt-get install alien
[07:45] <sercik> ok
[07:46] <fsckit> hsystem-x, there's a service menu at kdelook where you can right-click and convert to deb
[07:46] <fsckit> i love service menus. no tinkering trying to find apps, just right-click
[07:46] <ubuntu> sdsda
[07:47] <sercik> i have searched the word resolution with synaptic but i can't find
[07:47] <fsckit> sercik, stay tuned, i'm looking myself for a quick res. switcher
[07:48] <sercik> ok
[07:48] <fsckit> sercik, try monitor
[07:49] <hsystem-x> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:49] <hsystem-x> any suggestions...
[07:49] <fsckit> sercik, i can't either now, but google resolution switcher + deb
[07:50] <sercik> i think you need to install xorg-devel
[07:50] <RytmenPinnen> I mistakenly removed my taskbar, and I cant find out how to bring it back
[07:50] <RytmenPinnen> I cant only get an external taskbar buyt that's not what i want
[07:50] <hsystem-x> ok sercik.
[07:52] <hsystem-x> sercik, what's the name of the package? E: Couldn't find package xorg-devel
[07:52] <brandon_> Hey, can someone help me with installing steam engine?
[07:53] <fsckit> sercik,  found a command to change res..... xrandr -s X
[07:54] <Brandx> Anyone here?
[07:54] <Brandx>  Hello?
[07:54] <Brandx>  Anyone?
[07:55] <omega_point> anybody here uses VMD?
[07:56] <Brandx>  Nope, I'm trying to get help with steam.
[07:56] <fsckit> sercik, xrandr -s 1680x1050 seems to get me at my needed res. now all i'd have to do is create a link in the kde menu and send it to the desktop...push button res. via shortcut key. i love KDE
[07:57] <Brandx> haha, thats easy
[07:58] <RytmenPinnen> I mistakenly removed my taskbar, and I cant find out how to bring it back
[07:58] <RytmenPinnen> I cant only get an external taskbar but that's not what i want
[07:59] <Brandx> WHat is KDE, what does it do?
[07:59] <RytmenPinnen> I still have the panel and system tray and all that but the taskbar is gone
[07:59] <fsckit> Brandx, if you're using Kubuntu, it's all of what you're looking at for the most part
[07:59] <Brandx> Ahhh. Ok, I'm new to Kubuntu, My first day using it.
[07:59] <fsckit> RytmenPinnen, right click on the panel and choose to add an applet and remove external taskbar
[08:00] <Brandx> Can someone help me installing the 'Steam engine'?
[08:01] <RytmenPinnen> aah, thanks
[08:01] <Lynoure> Brandx: I've never done it, but http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=howto+steam looks possibly helpful
[08:01] <fsckit> np
[08:02] <fsckit> google ubuntu steam how to..there's plenty of guides or go to wine's site.
[08:02] <Brandx> ok
[08:03] <Brandx> Well, I've done that, but, I am really new to linux, and have not a clue what to do.
[08:04] <Brandx> Lynoure, I am actually on that page, and have been for a while, but I am not very good with linux yet..
[08:05] <Lynoure> Brandx: I'll be going in 10min and never done it myself, so probably someone else (fsckit?) can give you better help
[08:09] <Brandx> Ok, Well I got wine, using sudo apt-get install wine and i downloaded steamiunstall.msi, now im stumped. :P
[08:09] <Brandx> install*
[08:11] <blueyed> Brandx: try msiexec, which should be included in wine
[08:11] <Brandx> How?
[08:13] <Brandx> I'm telling you, I'm all new to this.
[08:19] <optimusRex> Hi. Is there anyone who can help with the graphics issue.
[08:19] <optimusRex> locked on 640x480
[08:22] <TS5002> Konqueror doesn't connect to the Internet - what can I do?
[08:23] <Brandx> optimus, do yo have your video card installed?
[08:23] <fsckit> optimusRex, you edit your xorg.conf or configured for your monitor?
[08:23] <Brandx> TS, are you connected to the internet, or using a wirelesscard?
[08:24] <nemezis> hello, live feisty starts fine and it installs perfectly, but on first boot, right after Grub it shows some error messages like "udevd_event[1951]  run_program '/sbin/modprobe' and stalls
[08:24] <optimusRex> I edited the xorg and used vesa. That is the best I can do since I have an integrated graphics on my board. It is by intel and we don't have a choice of intel
[08:25] <miira> Ahoj, mohl by mi, prosim, nekdo pomoct?
[08:25] <Brandx> hobluchong seng.
[08:25] <miira> Snazim se prejit na kubuntu 7.04 z 6.10
[08:25] <Brandx> Jez, pomoct.
[08:25] <LjL> !english
[08:25] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:26] <Brandx> haha, i have no clue what im saying :P
[08:26] <Brandx> im like ublah chaba
[08:26] <Brandx> xD
[08:26] <miira> Oh, sry, can someone help me, pls?
[08:26] <Brandx> Whats up?
[08:26] <miira> Id like to upgrade Kubuntu from 6.10 - 7.04
[08:26] <Brandx> I'll try, but I'm new to Linux
[08:26] <Brandx> reinstall?
[08:27] <miira> And when i ll start, the i ll get this
[08:27] <miira> Traceback (most recent call last):
[08:27] <optimusRex> miira, do you have a live cd?
[08:27] <miira> File "/tmp/tmp.LQQoh14603/DistUpgradeViewKDE.py", line 72, in update
[08:27] <miira> self.progressbar.setProgress(percent)
[08:28] <miira> AttributeError: KDECdromProgressAdapter instance has no attribute 'progressbar'
[08:28] <miira> Yes, I have it
[08:28] <miira> Alternative
[08:28] <radix__> mira did you check the integrity of the disk?
[08:29] <miira> Yes, the CD i OK
[08:29] <miira> is OK, sry
[08:30] <optimusRex> miira, if it's ok then you can try and do a clean install meaning that you need to have backed up all your data
[08:30] <bXi> how do i disable the  behaviour when i type 's
[08:31] <Brandx> i need help plz
[08:31] <miira> OK, I ll try it... I have Kubuntu installed about 1week, so I dont have enough things here...;o) But... thx...
[08:31] <Brandx> Installing Steam
[08:31] <Brandx> I know there is a bunch of things on google, but I'm new to linux.
[08:31] <miira> Aand... Do I have to take first line in when the menu opens?
[08:32] <optimusRex> yes
[08:32] <miira> OK, thx... bye
[08:32] <optimusRex> take the first line then go to the main page
[08:32] <optimusRex> choose install on the desktop
[08:32] <TS5001> Anybody here who can help me getting konqueror online? Meybe it becaurse of IPv6
[08:32] <radix__> mira also you can try doing the upgrade with the apt command
[08:32] <optimusRex> sorry brandix I don't have a clue about steam
[08:32] <Brandx> HOw can I install my 'SteamInstall.MSI'?
[08:33] <angela_> please i need help with automatix
[08:33] <Brandx> ok
[08:33] <miira> I tried it by apt command, but the installation crashed me
[08:33] <Brandx> or anyprogram hats msi
[08:33] <Brandx> thats*
[08:33] <angela_> automatix??
[08:34] <angela_> alguien sabe algo d automatix?
[08:34] <Brandx> Ok, can someone help me get Java??
[08:34] <TS5001> *.msi?
[08:34] <TS5001> under linux?
[08:34] <fsckit> Brandx, you can use automatix. it's one click installs for lots of apps
[08:34] <Brandx> ok
[08:34] <TS5001> maybe with wine, but SteamInstall sound like a job for cedega ;)
[08:34] <Brandx> ill downloadit
[08:34] <Tm_T> !automatix | angela_
[08:34] <ubotu> angela_: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:35] <Tm_T> Brandx: fsckit: Automatix is not supported
[08:35] <Tm_T> !java | Brandx
[08:35] <optimusRex> anyone know why I'm getting this - debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[08:35] <ubotu> Brandx: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:35] <ubunturos> !SQUASHFS
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squashfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <fsckit> Tm_T, it's supported by me, no probs with it
[08:35] <Tm_T> fsckit: ok, so if he end up any kind of problems, it's yours
[08:35] <fsckit> Brandx, or search for ubuntu how-to and you'll find lots of useful info
[08:36] <Brandx> Kubuntu?
[08:36] <Tm_T> fsckit: but general rule in official channels: we don't support it
[08:36] <fsckit> Tm_T, i know, i've heard probs with it but i haven't had any
[08:37] <Tm_T> fsckit: I have heard and seen way too much ;(
[08:38] <hsystem-x> !mp3
[08:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:38] <optimusRex> laters. Have to reboot.
[08:38] <TS5001> What can I do to get konquereor online?
[08:38] <TS5001> I can ping google.com and it gets resolved -> dns works
[08:39] <TS5001> but whenever I try to open a website I get 'no connection to the server' :(
[08:39] <ubunturos> any idea why there's a squash error on booting Kubuntu 7.04 DVD
[08:40] <ubunturos> TS5001: Konqueror should work, without configuration
[08:41] <kevin> hello
[08:42] <ubunturos> kevin: hello!
[08:42] <kevin> does anyone know how to change the amount of punctuation spoken by festival speech synthesizer?
[08:42] <TS5001> ubunturos: I hoped this, too..
[08:43] <Brandx>  Can someone help me step by step Installing Java, and/or Steam?
[08:43] <TS5001> ubunturos: but it prooved me the opposite
[08:44] <ubunturos> TS5001: umm, have any other browser installed?
[08:45] <TS5001> ubunturos: no, i installed kubuntu just today
[08:45] <ubunturos> TS5001: aah
[08:45] <TS5001> ubunturos: yes?
[08:46] <ubunturos> TS5001: may be you should install Firefox and try
[08:47] <TS5001> ubunturos: where do I get it?
[08:47] <hsystem-x> but, what's wrong with konqueror?
[08:47] <ubunturos> hsystem-x: TS5001is not able to browse using konqueror
[08:47] <TS5001> ubunturos: mozilla.com is quiet useless in my situation ;)
[08:47] <ubunturos> TS5001: umm
[08:47] <hsystem-x> sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:49] <hsystem-x> !p2p
[08:49] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:49] <TS5001> hsystem-x: it seems to use the same non working funktions as konqueror :(
[08:50] <hsystem-x> but why konqueror is not working ? what distro you're using?
[08:50] <ubunturos> TS5001: I fail to understand, what is it that stops konqueror from functioning
[08:50] <ubunturos> hsystem-x: he's using Kubuntu
[08:50] <hsystem-x> which version?
[08:51] <ubunturos> TS5001: which version? (hehe)
[08:51] <bXi> how can i disable the  behaviour when i type 's
[08:52] <TS5001> ubunturos:  of kubuntu? brand new 7.04 i386
[08:52] <ubunturos> hsystem-x: 7.04
[08:52] <hsystem-x> any clue of why konqueror isn't functioning?
[08:52] <hsystem-x> ts5001?
[08:53] <TS5001> hsystem-x: me was given the advice to deactivete IPv6
[08:53] <TS5001> *deactivate
[08:53] <ubunturos> also*
[08:53] <hsystem-x> so you deactivate ipv6?
[08:53] <hsystem-x> in the alias file?
[08:54] <hsystem-x> try disabling ipv6 then (if you haven't done yet)
[08:55] <JeunoD> anoyne here good with grub that can check this boot code? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19155/
[08:55] <hsystem-x> but i believe ipv6 is working good on feisty.
[08:55] <just-this-time> k3b fails on me with buffer empty
[08:55] <hsystem-x> better than in previous versions...
[08:55] <fangorious> amarok doesn't seem to like the multimedia keys on my keyboard that work fine in rhythmbox
[08:56] <just-this-time>  i ask k3b to burn iso while in edgy upgrading to  feisty
[08:56] <just-this-time> should I renice  k3b for k3b to function and how to renice permanently
[08:56] <TS5001> well, i added KDE_NO_IPV6=true to /etc/environment - nothing happened
[08:57] <eilker> !ldap
[08:57] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[08:57] <Nergar> hello
[08:57] <hsystem-x> well dont do that, try disabling ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/alias   file
[08:57] <Nergar> how do i burn WMAs in K3B?
[08:58] <hsystem-x> aliases***
[08:58] <moparisthebest> does anyone know if there is any overhead in using symbolic links to folders?
[08:58] <hsystem-x> in the file aliases, in the line 17
[08:58] <hsystem-x> alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[08:58] <TS5001> hsystem-x: should I delete it?
[08:59] <hsystem-x> change it to alias net-pf-10 off ipv6
[08:59] <Brandx> Need some help with Java plz.
[08:59] <moparisthebest> as in does it run any slower if I access a file through a symbolic link instead of directly?
[08:59] <TS5001> hsystem-x: ok, comment is #
[08:59] <moparisthebest> what do you need help with Brandx ?
[08:59] <hsystem-x> yep.
[08:59] <Brandx> haha moparisthebest, is that really you?
[08:59] <Brandx> I'm TeeBaggie on the forums :P
[08:59] <moparisthebest> from moparisthebest.com? yes
[08:59] <hsystem-x> comment the line 17, and add a new line below that line
[08:59] <moparisthebest> oh hi
[08:59] <Brandx> hey
[08:59] <Brandx> hehe
[09:00] <Brandx> I need help installing my java to finish my web server
[09:00] <TS5001> hsystem-x: with wich content?
[09:00] <hsystem-x> #alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[09:00] <hsystem-x> alias net-pf-10 off ipv6
[09:00] <moparisthebest> the channel for the forum is here as well Brandx, #mopar :)
[09:00] <moparisthebest> Brandx, kubuntu 7.04?
[09:00] <Brandx> yup
[09:00] <moparisthebest> ok, its easy
[09:00] <moparisthebest> open up adept
[09:00] <Brandx> I just downloaded it yesterday :D
[09:00] <hsystem-x> just comment line 17, and add alias net-pf-10 off ipv6
[09:00] <hsystem-x> below
[09:00] <hsystem-x> save the aliases file, and restart the pc
[09:01] <mike__> can someone tell me the difference between these files?
[09:01] <moparisthebest> Brandx, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories?
[09:01] <mike__> I need a new version of Java and there are 2 files
[09:01] <mike__> 1 is Linux: Self Extracting file or the same file except RPM
[09:01] <DaSkreech> Is there a way to edit the Kurrent entry in Klipper?
[09:01] <hsystem-x> reboot*
[09:01] <DaSkreech>  I remember doing it once
[09:02] <linux_> buenos dias
[09:02] <linux_> ubuntu en espaol?
[09:02] <fdoving> !es | linux_
[09:02] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:02] <linux_> gracias
[09:02] <mike__> Whats the difference between a self extracting file, or an RPM self-extracting file?
[09:02] <fdoving> !java | mike__
[09:02] <ubotu> mike__: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:03] <malik__> is it a good idea to copy all the fonts from windows installation n copy em to the fonts:/fonts/system or in private user fonts directory?...wud it make diplay of fonts better or not much different?
[09:03] <malik__> !fonts
[09:03] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:04] <TeeBaggie> I'm here :P
[09:06] <mike__> can someone help me out?
[09:07] <fdoving> mike__: yes. what's your question?
[09:07] <mike__> i downloaded and installed frostwire
[09:07] <mike__> when i click to open the program, it wont open
[09:07] <mike__> it loads like it wants to, but nothing happens
[09:08] <hsystem-x> !yakuake
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <malik__> is it a good idea to copy all the fonts from windows installation n copy em to the fonts:/fonts/system or in private user fonts directory?...wud it make diplay of fonts better or not much different?
[09:09] <mike__> fdoving: do you have any expierance with frostwire?
[09:11] <fdoving> mike__: yes, i have it installed.
[09:11] <OptimusRex> still having display issues even after configuring the card on xorg
[09:11] <TS5001> no change with konqueror :(
[09:12] <OptimusRex> anyone with an idea what is happening
[09:12] <mike__> so whats wrong with it?
[09:12] <OptimusRex> cant change from 640x480
[09:13] <Yorokobi> !fixres | OptimusRex
[09:13] <ubotu> OptimusRex: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:14] <omega_point> somebody here uses VMD?
[09:14] <OptimusRex> ok let me try
[09:15] <jhutchins_lt> What's the proper procedure for requesting that a package be updated?
[09:16] <andreamordini> could someone help me? i want to use ekiga with voipbuster
[09:16] <fdoving> jhutchins_lt: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU
[09:17] <budluva> if im on a fairly newer laptop with an ati card could someone suggest to me whether i should go with beryl or compiz as a composite manager?
[09:18] <kevin> are you using the proprietary ati driver?
[09:18] <kevin> i don't think it supports composite
[09:19] <jhutchins_lt> fdoving: Thank you.  audacity needs to be updated.
[09:20] <jhutchins_lt> fdoving: Ok, I guess what I want to request is a backport.  Don't know why the current release of audacity wasn't included.
[09:21] <kane_> Is there some kind of known bug in firefox that sometimes you have to like unmaximize/maximize a page to get it to render it?
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> !info audacity
[09:21] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> How do you find the maintainer of a package?
[09:22] <fdoving> jhutchins_lt: i think the backport policy requires the new version to first be in the development repositories, now gutsy.
[09:22] <Yorokobi> jhutchins_lt: Audacity Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
[09:22] <fdoving> jhutchins_lt: find the package in adept and click the blue arrow. or use 'apt-cache show <pkg>'
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> Ok.  Mandriva's cooker bot has a :maint function that'll return that.
[09:23] <fdoving> it's rarely needed i guess.
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> !info audacity gutsy
[09:23] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB
[09:23] <OptimusRex> ubotu, i tried the line you gave me but the screen just went black and the machine rebooted. When I logged back in, the resolution was still locked at 640x480
[09:24] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: ubotu is a bot
[09:24] <Yorokobi> !bot
[09:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:24] <TS5001> Any ideas why konqueror still isn working? :(
[09:25] <Arwen> !notworking
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notworking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <Arwen> ...
[09:25] <Arwen> !doesn't work
[09:25] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:25] <OptimusRex> Oh! Ok. Thanks.. ubotu, please advice about my display problems.
[09:25] <fdoving> TS5001: isn't working? how?
[09:26] <Arwen> OptimusRex, I assume you have the generic nvidia bad resolution problem?
[09:26] <TS5001> fdoving: when I try to acces any page, the message 'error loading ...' instntly appears
[09:26] <fdoving> TS5001: do you use knetworkmanager?
[09:27] <OptimusRex> i have an integrated intel graphics and tried setting it to i810 since that is what showed on the display settings page in system settings
[09:27] <TS5001> fdoving: If i start it, nothing happens oO
[09:27] <Yorokobi> !info 915resolution
[09:27] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[09:27] <fdoving> TS5001: do you use knetworkmanager?
[09:27] <OptimusRex> how do I install it?
[09:28] <TS5001> fdoving: no, becaurse It doesn't start when I click on it
[09:28] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: 'sudo apt-get install 915resolution'
[09:28] <tuco> Hello guys. What is the command to download and install a  new kerm
[09:28] <TS5001> fdoving: I used kppp
[09:28] <tuco> new kernel sorry.
[09:28] <Arwen> !packages | OptimusRex
[09:28] <fdoving> TS5001: ok, do you have knetworkmanager running?
[09:28] <ubotu> OptimusRex: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:29] <TS5001> fdoving: I don'i know, If I click on the knetworkmanager icon nothing happens
[09:29] <fdoving> TS5001: ok, the icon is there right?
[09:29] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, what it looks like is that Mandriva is distributing the beta branch, 1.3.x, and ubuntu has stuck with the "stable" branch 1.2.x.
[09:29] <fdoving> TS5001: right-click on it and quit. then try konqueror again.
[09:29] <OptimusRex> installing. Is there a way I can save these chats?
[09:30] <OptimusRex> after installing, do I need to do anything else?
[09:30] <TS5001> fdoving: well, i refered to the icon in K->Internet
[09:30] <TS5001> fdoving: oh, no, it was running
[09:30] <fdoving> TS5001: ah, i refer to the icon in the systray, usually lower right corner, by the clock.
[09:30] <tuco> command to download and install new kernel please people!
[09:30] <fdoving> tuco: kmenu -> system -> adept package manager.
[09:31] <jhutchins_lt> !find audacity-unstable
[09:31] <ubotu> Package/file audacity-unstable does not exist in feisty
[09:31] <TS5001> fdoving: now I've quit it - IT WORKS :)
[09:31] <OptimusRex> installed the apt. What next
[09:31] <TS5001> fdoving: thx :)
[09:31] <tuco> Ok what is the latest kernel available fdowing?
[09:31] <fdoving> TS5001: great, you're welcome. :)
[09:31] <jrick> \msg Nickserve IDENTIFY n1zi8gbx
[09:31] <jrick> oops.
[09:31] <jhutchins_lt> jrick: I know your password!
[09:31] <fdoving> tuco: what's your ubuntu version?
[09:31] <just-this-time> when I mount an iso can I write to mounted directory and thus change iso image?
[09:31] <Yorokobi> tuco: 2.6.20-15-generic
[09:32] <fdoving> jrick: might want to change that password.
[09:32] <jrick> yeah, thought so
[09:32] <jhutchins_lt> just-this-time: Look for info on remastering iso's.
[09:32] <jrick> how?
[09:32] <Arwen> OptimusRex, open a terminal and run "man 915resolution"
[09:32] <just-this-time> in k3b jhutchins_lt ?
[09:32] <TS5001> fdoving: but do I always have to quit this before I can surf the web now?
[09:32] <jhutchins_lt> jrick: /msg nickserv help
[09:33] <fdoving> jrick: first identify with your password, then /msg nickserv help set password
[09:33] <jhutchins_lt> just-this-time: No, it's still not a simple process.  Basically I believe you have to extract the files from the image, change them, then re-create the image.
[09:34] <fdoving> TS5001: if networkmanager is in a disconnected state, yes. KDE asks knetworkmanager if it's connected or not. then it relies on that informaiton to be the truth. when it's not you get weird situations.
[09:34] <jrick> i wanted to get on b/c I saw Mike was back.  Did he git his frostwire problem fixed?
[09:34] <just-this-time> jhutchins_lt: just an example - in windowz i can drag or delete files to iso opened in winiso5.3 maybe familiar?
[09:35] <fdoving> TS5001: if you don't often use networks other than with kppp, you can set knetwoorkmanager to not autostart.
[09:35] <jhutchins_lt> just-this-time: Haven't used Windows for years.
[09:35] <OptimusRex> I've opened terminal and it's giving me a bunch of instructions but no next move
[09:35] <TS5001> fdoving: well, I have a small local network
[09:35] <jhutchins_lt> just-this-time: If that's so, it probably does just what I said, but hides the process from you.
[09:35] <just-this-time> ;-) you should for referencee and compares jhutchins_lt
[09:35] <Arwen> just-this-time, wtf is "windowz"? but the correct solution would be to mount the iso, use unionfs, and run mkfs
[09:36] <jhutchins_lt> just-this-time: No interest in being that frustrated.  I maintain XP machines for an office.
[09:36] <gediminas> Hello, has anyone tried running "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl " with wine?
[09:36] <fdoving> TS5001: then if you plug something in to the networking port knetworkmanager should connect, and give kde network access.
[09:36] <Arwen> gediminas, no, but I'll query it on appdb right now?
[09:36] <jhutchins_lt> just-this-time: I use linux because it does what I want it to, not what some corporation thinks I should want to do.  Roxio cured me of Windows.
[09:36] <just-this-time> ok I maintain equal interest, while my heart is with open systems
[09:36] <jrick> if mike get's back on, someone tell him to do a sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:37] <tuco> Ok that is what I have then. So up to date, thanks guys
[09:37] <Arwen> gediminas, winehq gives it a "trash" rating on Feisty, so good luck with that...
[09:37] <just-this-time> sorry offtopic
[09:37] <Arwen> gediminas, or, actually, reading more... it says you have to switch it to DirectX 8 mode and turn off lighting
[09:38] <gediminas> I recently got the game from a friend, I managed to run it with wine by accident, but there is no sound
[09:38] <Arwen> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7377 - that might be enlightening
[09:39] <gediminas> thanks :)
[09:39] <Arwen> you have to configure wine's sound in the control panel "winecfg"
[09:39] <OptimusRex> ubotu, opened 915resolution. What next
[09:41] <jhutchins_lt> just-this-time: Well, I'm behind the times as usual.  There are several tools that do this, look at http://littlesvr.ca/isomaster/
[09:42] <Arwen> well well, that's slightly better than using unionfs + mount.iso9660...
[09:43] <OptimusRex> help. I'm stuck
[09:43] <just-this-time> tyvm jhutchins_lt , nice as usual
[09:46] <just-this-time> very nice jhutchins_lt http://littlesvr.ca/isomaster/ wonder it is in repos . apt-cache searching it
[09:47] <just-this-time> nope
[09:49] <atidem> re
[09:50] <Graham> Can the Kubuntu installed shrink an NTFS partition?
[09:50] <Graham> installer*
[09:50] <Arwen> yes
[09:50] <Arwen> but not safely
[09:51] <Arwen> well, nothing can be resized *safely*, but NTFS is particularly iffy
[09:51] <fdoving> it's very good at deleting ntfs partitions :)
[09:51] <Graham> Reason being I'm gona give my friend Kubuntu for a try.
[09:51] <Graham> He seems interested in Linux, although he's barely tech savvy...
[09:52] <Graham> I dn't figure there's any harm.
[09:52] <Graham> don't*
[09:52] <Graham> Seems the IRC connection is draining my spelling ability.
[09:52] <fdoving> using some windows magic to resize the partition is probably the safest choice.
[09:53] <Graham> I'd agree.
[09:54] <mike__> can someone help me install JRE 1.5.X
[09:54] <jrick> mike i've solved your problem.
[09:54] <jussi01> !java | mike__
[09:54] <ubotu> mike__: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:54] <dettoaltrimenti> is there any way to automatically remove config files of packages you've removed?
[09:54] <budluva> anyone here got c&c3 running in wine yet?
[09:54] <Arwen> mike__, yes, do you just want to know how? or you got a complication?
[09:55] <jrick> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:55] <blekos> any idea why Kdar isnt available for feisty fawn?
[09:55] <luca> hi everyone
[09:55] <mike__> jrick: which option do i choose?
[09:55] <jrick> run this, and then select Sun Java
[09:55] <luca> can someone help me correct a little script for suspend?
[09:55] <Arwen> budluva, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7440
[09:55] <jrick> then you can run frostwire
[09:56] <rdallarmi> hi, I need to have a basic ftp server, which on do I chhose? i just need to login via ftp for each system user (just to their home directory)
[09:56] <jrick> mike: did it work?
[09:56] <mike__> so do i choose this one?
[09:56] <AMDfanboy> hi guys, i think my hard drive is screwed because it takes me forever to load GRUB
[09:57] <mike__> thats java-6 i need java 1.5
[09:57] <mike__> oOo i see
[09:58] <mike__> jrick: this is what it says:
[09:58] <Graham> Has anybody here tried recommended some form of Linux to friends?
[09:58] <mike__> Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[09:58] <jrick> then start Frostwire from kmenu
[09:59] <heinkel_112> rdallarmi: use ssh, sftp and scp instead of ftp. all is enabled by default in kubuntu
[09:59] <mike__> jrick: thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:59] <AMDfanboy> is there any kind diagnostic programs for linux to see if theres anythign wrong wtih my disk???
[09:59] <jrick> ur welcome.
[09:59] <AMDfanboy> hard disk that his
[09:59] <AMDfanboy> is
[10:00] <mike__> wait...this is weird
[10:00] <mike__> jrick: when it loads, it comes up, but then dissaperars
[10:00] <mike__> *dissapears
[10:00] <jrick> hmmm
[10:00] <rdallarmi> heinkel_112 sorry for the misunderstanding, but I was referring to the server, not the cliend, so I should have said what ftpd....
[10:00] <triade> AMDfanboy: look for "device fitness test" on google
[10:00] <jrick> I was able to install it...
[10:01] <jrick> try running frostwire from the terminal
[10:01] <Daisuke_Ido> filesystem problem, use fsck
[10:01] <AMDfanboy> www.hitachigst.com/downloads/dft32_user_guide.pdf
[10:01] <AMDfanboy> is that what u were talking about?
[10:01] <triade> AMDfanboy: yes
[10:02] <mike__> Something went wrong with FrostWire.
[10:02] <mike__> Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[10:02] <mike__> (FrostWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.4+)
[10:02] <mike__> The version of Java in your PATH is:
[10:02] <mike__> java version "1.5.0_08"
[10:02] <mike__> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[10:02] <mike__> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
[10:02] <mike__> sorry everyone
[10:02] <triade> AMDfanboy: download the .iso file and boot from it
[10:02] <jrick> I'm running java 6 (1.6)
[10:02] <jrick> was java 6 on that menu?
[10:03] <mike__> yes
[10:03] <Nickname> hello i have just put Ubuntu 7.04 and i have a small problem with my sound ...my sound card is onboard realtek 5.1 ...i have sound only from the 2 front speakers ...i download alsa gnome but i dont understund how to rule it
[10:03] <jrick> run that command again and use 6 instead.
[10:03] <AMDfanboy> iso file from hitachi?  even if its a western digital?  and what about FSCK?
[10:03] <TeeBaggie> Which is better? AMD or Intel?
[10:03] <Arwen> AMDfanboy, download your manufacturer's tool
[10:03] <TeeBaggie> I just got my first intel
[10:03] <Arwen> AMDfanboy, and fsck repairs filesystem (software) problems
[10:04] <Arwen> TeeBaggie, matter of opinion. Intel is faster and cheaper if you want a good CPU. For mid and low-range, go with AMD.
[10:04] <TeeBaggie> yup
[10:04] <mike__> hmmm this dosent make sence
[10:04] <jrick> whatL
[10:04] <jrick> ?
[10:04] <mike__> when i close out of the terminal, frostwire closees too
[10:04] <TeeBaggie> synaptic I found a good deal on a 350$ cpu at fry's with a motherboard, so i went ahead and go tit
[10:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: i would like to add "currently" to your processor comment
[10:05] <luca> mike_ that's normal
[10:05] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, yes
[10:05] <mike__> oh...thats normal?
[10:05] <jrick> yeah, that's because your running it as a terminal app.
[10:05] <Arwen> it fluctuates... in the P4 era, AMD was king
[10:05] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly
[10:05] <jrick> isn't it on your kmenu?
[10:05] <triade> AMDfanboy: Or look for "ultimate boot disk" .... great stuff.
[10:05] <jrick> you can run it from there
[10:05] <mike__> oh i see
[10:05] <Daisuke_Ido> up until the CD line, amd was on top, intel took it back, and who knows what amd's new architecture will do
[10:05] <mike__> it stays up when i load it from the K menu
[10:06] <jrick> good. anything else wierd?
[10:06] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, Intel, of course, has new plans too :-)
[10:06] <mike__> hmm let me check. lol
[10:08] <mike__> its workin
[10:08] <jrick> great!
[10:08] <jrick> any other Q's?
[10:08] <luca> can someone help me making a script for suspend function?
[10:09] <mike__> umm one more, how do i install the latest version of flash?
[10:09] <jrick> what browser?
[10:09] <Arwen> mike__, download it from adobe.com
[10:09] <luca> mike_ just go into adept_manager and select flash-plugin-nonfree (the name is this or similar)
[10:09] <jrick> and what version of ubuntu?
[10:09] <mike__> konquerer
[10:10] <mike__> Edgy 6.10
[10:10] <jrick> oh
[10:10] <jrick> feisty automatically downloads it.
[10:10] <luca> uh?
[10:10] <mcgregor> hi all
[10:10] <luca> I had to install it manually from synaptic O_o
[10:10] <mike__> i've tried to download it and install it for some time now, but never got it
[10:11] <mcgregor> i have a problem with KTorrent
[10:11] <Arwen> and I didn't bother using the dl script.... so much easier to just download the tar....
[10:11] <mcgregor> can someone help me
[10:11] <jrick> mike: yeah, in edgy it should be in the repos.
[10:11] <mike__> repos?
[10:12] <jrick> repositories.
[10:12] <jrick> open adept manager
[10:12] <mike__> wheres that
[10:12] <jrick> under kmenu - system
[10:13] <mike__> okay its open
[10:13] <jrick> hold on, finding package
[10:13] <mike__> oh okay
[10:13] <mcgregor> if i forget to close my torrents when i open the pc the ubuntu is working very hard
[10:14] <jrick> search for flash
[10:14] <mcgregor> i go in konsole and i do killall ktorrent
[10:14] <mike__> okay done
[10:14] <jrick> and try installing flashplugin-nonfree
[10:15] <mike__> from Adobe?
[10:15] <jrick> yeah.
[10:15] <mcgregor> then it's working the ubuntu
[10:15] <mike__> mmk found it
[10:15] <mike__> it says Installed
[10:15] <jrick> does flash work in firefox?
[10:15] <mike__> but when i try to watch a video on youtube or anything like that it says i need a new version of flash
[10:16] <mike__> no
[10:16] <jrick> huh.
[10:16] <pilar> Good evening everyone
[10:16] <ubuntu> hey guys, i was trying to install kubuntu feisty on my laptop - the partition resize failed and now my ntfs partition has disappeared :/
[10:16] <mcgregor> and new i need to open the ktorrent is not working and the ubuntu is workicg very hard again
[10:16] <mike__> and for some reason firefox will unexpetantly close, so i just never use it
[10:16] <mcgregor> can someone help me
[10:17] <mcgregor> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[10:17] <pilar> I installed correctly an without problems kubuntu feisty on my laptop
[10:17] <pilar> But I have some problems to solve: the most important is that I cannot ear any sound
[10:17] <Arwen> Davidoff, so restore from backup?
[10:17] <jrick> in konqueror, settings - configure - plugins
[10:18] <pilar> My laptop is an Acer with amd turion 64
[10:18] <pilar> and the audio device is an MCP51
[10:18] <jrick> mike: what folders are scanned?
[10:18] <pilar> from nVidia
[10:18] <pilar> any idea?
[10:19] <Arwen> pilar, you can't hear any sound from NVIDIA? if your video card is silent, I consider that a good thing (tm)
[10:19] <AMDfanboy> hmmmmm, i didnt intend for this install to be official so i rushed through the options and i think  i skipped making a root password?
[10:19] <Davidoff> Arwen: thanks wiseguy
[10:19] <AMDfanboy> know what it would be or how i can make one?
[10:19] <Arwen> AMDfanboy, there is no root password
[10:19] <mike__> im lost
[10:19] <Arwen> Davidoff, you have a better solution? stop being arrogant.
[10:19] <Arwen> !rootsudo | AMDfanboy
[10:19] <ubotu> AMDfanboy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:19] <AMDfanboy> so hit su and then just enter/
[10:19] <jrick> in konqueror, open settings
[10:19] <pilar> my sound card aparently is from nVidia Corporation
[10:20] <jrick> then configure
[10:20] <mike__> okay done
[10:20] <Arwen> Ubuntu doesn't use su, it uses sudo
[10:20] <jrick> and click plugins
[10:20] <pilar> product: MCP51 High Definition Audio
[10:20] <pilar> vendor: nVidia Corporation
[10:20] <jrick> what folders are scanned?
[10:21] <pilar> now let's go to the point
[10:21] <mike__> oh i see
[10:21] <Arwen> pilar, ok, one sec
[10:21] <mike__> well my resolution is really big for some reason, and it wont change, so i cant see that far down
[10:21] <mike__> it happend a long time ago, and no one has been able to helo me
[10:21] <AMDfanboy> thanks, i'm reading that
[10:22] <mike__> jrick: would you be able to help me out with that instead of the flash?
[10:22] <jrick> what's your res set to?
[10:23] <AMDfanboy> got it thanks!
[10:23] <pilar> mmmm
[10:23] <jrick> did that happen when you installed kubuntu?
[10:23] <mike__> 640x480
[10:23] <mike__> yeah
[10:23] <Arwen> pilar, have you tried the nforce drivers from nvidia?
[10:23] <mike__> well i took it to a computer shop and they installed it
[10:23] <pilar> how can I see what's my version of alsa
[10:23] <Arwen> it seems your chipset is nvidia based (a bad thing)
[10:23] <pilar> Arwen, no
[10:23] <mike__> it was fine there, but then when i plugged it in here, it changed
[10:23] <jrick> is your moniter set correctly?
[10:24] <mike__> how can i find out?
[10:24] <Arwen> pilar, how do you have an nvidia sound card without an nvidia motherboard?
[10:24] <AMDfanboy> ok, so i ran fsck
[10:24] <pilar> I don't know
[10:24] <jrick> in your system settings, click moniter & display
[10:24] <AMDfanboy> it did a bunch of stuff like this
[10:24] <pilar> I bought the laptop complete
[10:24] <mike__> okay
[10:24] <AMDfanboy> Clearing orphaned inode 7422564 (uid=1000, gid=1000, mode=0100644, size=1066466)
[10:24] <AMDfanboy> Clearing orphaned inode 7407626 (uid=0, gid=0, mode=0100644, size=857505)
[10:24] <Arwen> pilar, try "alsactl -v" - that'll show your alsa version
[10:24] <jrick> then click the hardware tab.
[10:24] <AMDfanboy> like 20 of those
[10:25] <AMDfanboy> and then this...
[10:25] <mike__> okay
[10:25] <jrick> you need administrator mode on.
[10:25] <AMDfanboy>      /dev/hda1: clean, 95834/9486336 files, 921667/18970749 blocks
[10:25] <Arwen> pilar, also, try loading the alsa drivers with "modprobe sound_hda_intel"
[10:25] <mike__> okay done
[10:26] <jrick> now you can change your monitor settings
[10:26] <[GuS] > ^Hi guys... one question... is there a problem with Samba in feisty? i cant share feiles/printers.. and the same configuration were working on Edgy...
[10:26] <AMDfanboy> so it says clean?
[10:26] <mike__> well the little bar thing to change the res. wont move
[10:26] <pilar> Module sound dha_intel not found
[10:27] <jrick> are you administrator?
[10:27] <mike__> jrick: under size and positioning
[10:27] <mike__> jrick
[10:27] <mike__> jrick: yes i am
[10:27] <sercik> ciao
[10:27] <Arwen> pilar, oops, it's "modprobe snd_hda_intel" on Ubuntu
[10:27] <pilar> ;)
[10:27] <Arwen> that command needs root/sudo
[10:27] <jrick> click the hardware tab
[10:27] <pilar> I know that is with sudo
[10:27] <mike__> okay
[10:27] <pilar> done
[10:27] <jrick> and configure your monitor.
[10:28] <mike__> what do i change the monitor ti
[10:28] <mike__> *to
[10:28] <jrick> what is your moddel?
[10:28] <pilar> I have no sound still
[10:28] <Arwen> pilar, hmm... kernel version?
[10:28] <mike__> its an Emachines
[10:28] <pilar> 2.6.20-15-generic
[10:28] <Cugel> Anyone know how I can improve the way my fonts look? (KDE) -- I read a thread on ubuntuforums but I lost the link.
[10:28] <Arwen> hrmm
[10:29] <jrick> click detect monitor
[10:29] <pilar> I am reading this:
[10:29] <pilar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239995&page=3
[10:29] <mike__> it says Plug and plau
[10:29] <mike__> *plau
[10:29] <mike__> ****Play
[10:29] <jrick> ok, that's usb
[10:29] <Arwen> pilar, yeah, you had an mcp51? or was it an mcp61?
[10:29] <pilar> But my english is not very well I don't see anything relevant
[10:29] <pilar> I have an mcp51
[10:29] <Yorokobi> Cugel: Kmenu > system settings > Appearance > Fonts > Use anti-aliasing for fonts
[10:30] <mike__> so what do i do?
[10:30] <jrick> is Plug and Play selected?
[10:30] <mike__> yes
[10:30] <Cugel> I use anti-aliasing -- I'll play with the hinting (what do you _you_ have for hinting settings?)
[10:30] <jrick> go back to the screen res screen
[10:30] <jrick> any change?
[10:30] <mike__> nope
[10:30] <jrick> ok, this may get messy
[10:30] <Arwen> pilar, hmm, I'll keep looking for you, but I'm no expert :-(
[10:30] <Yorokobi> Cugel: I use sub-pixel hinting (RGB), no exclusions, full hinting style
[10:31] <jrick> you may need to reconfigure your x server
[10:31] <mike__> im scared....
[10:31] <pilar> Ok Arwen, thanks so much
[10:31] <mike__> whats that
[10:31] <jrick> open a konsole
[10:31] <pilar> You have been very kind
[10:31] <jrick> x is the underlying windowing environment
[10:31] <pilar> ;)
[10:31] <Arwen> pilar, oh yeah, in the meantime, you can use oss as your audio path (don't ask me how)
[10:31] <mike__> okay its open
[10:32] <pilar> I was reading something about that
[10:32] <jrick> just a sec
[10:32] <mike__> mmk
[10:32] <pilar> let's investigate the way
[10:32] <Cugel> I think I just need to reboot. Open applications don't change their font on the fly!
[10:32] <jrick> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:33] <mike__> okay a weird screen came up on the terminal
[10:33] <jrick> I'll guide you through the screens
[10:33] <mike__> okay
[10:33] <jrick> what does it say?
[10:33] <mike__> configure xserver
[10:34] <jrick> keep your driver the same, just click return.
[10:34] <jrick> or enter
[10:34] <mike__> Identifier for your video card:
[10:34] <pilar> It is amazing
[10:34] <jrick> same
[10:34] <pilar> Arwen, I did it
[10:35] <Arwen> pilar, does it work now?
[10:35] <mike__> okay now what
[10:35] <pilar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239995&page=4
[10:35] <pilar> Read the post from neocoretech
[10:35] <jrick> let me check, it should be the same until a point. I'll tell you where to stop.
[10:35] <mike__> okay
[10:35] <pilar> It says that after load the module you show me he could hear sounds loading in the panel the surround
[10:36] <pilar> I did it
[10:36] <Arwen> pilar, did that work?
[10:36] <pilar> And now I have perfect sound
[10:36] <pilar> I didn't know I have a 3d sound laptop
[10:36] <Arwen> ok, so now you in happy land :-)
[10:36] <pilar> jeje
[10:36] <jrick> keep the same settings until it asks you for monitor autodetection
[10:36] <pilar> now I am going to try to solve other things
[10:36] <jrick> and try to auto detect.
[10:37] <pilar> thanks so much really
[10:37] <mike__> Users of PowerPC machines, and users of any computer with multiple video  
[10:37] <mike__>   devices, should specify the BusID of the video card in an accepted        
[10:37] <mike__>   bus-specific format.                                                      
[10:37] <mike__>  
[10:37] <mike__> it wont let me click okay anymore
[10:38] <jrick> huh, wierd
[10:38] <jrick> oh, try tab to switch between widgets
[10:38] <ubuntu_> hallo
[10:38] <ubuntu_> help me please
[10:39] <ubuntu_> im installing windows and i lost my boot manager
[10:39] <ubuntu_> how can i re install the boot manager?
[10:39] <mike__> crap i got out of it
[10:39] <LinkCanabico> ubuntu use the rescue mode of the install cd
[10:40] <ubuntu_> theres no rescue mode in my cd
[10:40] <jrick> back to it yet?
[10:41] <mike__> no it wont let me back
[10:41] <mike__> it says its in use
[10:41] <ubuntu_> help me please how to use grub?
[10:41] <jrick> huh.
[10:41] <mike__> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[10:41] <jrick> does anyone know how to unlock it?
[10:42] <LinkCanabico> are you totaly shure about the rescue mode?
[10:42] <ubuntu_> huh?
[10:42] <jrick> i've had this problem with adept/apt-get
[10:43] <Froggy[dhraak] > where is KDE's weather kicker applet
[10:43] <jrick> ummmmmm...
[10:43] <jrick> let me see.....
[10:43] <mike__> okay
[10:44] <ubuntu_> help me please
[10:44] <ubuntu_> how to get my boot manager back
[10:46] <LinkCanabico> use the install cd there is a moment were you usualy a part were you can select the rescur mode there all you have to do is tipe "linux rescue" and it will mount your system then "chroot" to the plase it mounted
[10:47] <miel> hello
[10:47] <jrick> try sudo
[10:47] <jrick> try sudo fuser -v /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat
[10:47] <eguzkia> hello someone knows somenthing to convert a divx into a dvd
[10:48] <jrick> this will tell you what process is using it
[10:48] <mike__> okay
[10:48] <lucky_lucas> hi, do you know a reliable cross platform and nat through, visio conference programm ?
[10:48] <pilar> Well, my next problem is in relation to beryl
[10:48] <LinkCanabico> ubuntu then "cd  /boot" "grub install XXX" were XXX is the hard drive you want grub to install
[10:48] <pilar> can I have support to that here?
[10:48] <mike__> wait...im lost again
[10:48] <Arwen> eguzkia, don't try it, just buy an XVid compliant DVD player...
[10:49] <jordo23> Everytime I try to unzip a file through KDE I get errors. Which packages do you need?
[10:49] <LinkCanabico> jordo23 waths the error?
[10:49] <Arwen> that said, try kmediafactory
[10:49] <eguzkia> Arwen: why?
[10:49] <lucky_lucas> jordo23:  Do you use ark ?
[10:49] <mike__> jrick: im lost, tell me what to do again
[10:50] <jrick> sudo fuser -v /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat
[10:50] <Arwen> eguzkia, every time you convert a media file, it loses quality
[10:50] <jrick> does this work?
[10:50] <Iwonder|too> tovidgui is finally working for vid encoding
[10:50] <pilar> my problem is that I cannot see any window decorations
[10:50] <jordo23> lucky_lucas: Yeah....what ever is default through Kubuntu
[10:50] <lucky_lucas> jordo23: ok can you launch it through a konsole
[10:50] <eguzkia> Arwen: yes but this is not important for me now
[10:50] <lucky_lucas> jordo23: so you can see a more verbose outuput
[10:50] <eguzkia> Arwen: can you help me?
[10:51] <miel> i use the tar command
[10:51] <miel> sorry, the gunzip command
[10:51] <jordo23> lucky_lucas: launched it....no console output though
[10:51] <jrick> ps ax | grep 26509
[10:51] <mike__> jrick:
[10:51] <mike__> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[10:51] <mike__> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo
[10:51] <mike__> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[10:51] <mike__> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[10:51] <mike__>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[10:51] <lucky_lucas> jordo23: ok
[10:51] <lucky_lucas> are you sure your zip file is correct ?
[10:52] <Arwen> eguzkia, then use that package I pointed out, kmediafactory
[10:52] <jordo23> lucky_lucas: Happens on most of them....
[10:52] <lucky_lucas> jordo23: and which version of ark do you use
[10:52] <lucky_lucas> jordo23: ok
[10:52] <jrick> I'll be right back, don't leave.
[10:52] <jordo23> lucky_lucas: 2.6.4
[10:52] <mike__> okay
[10:52] <lucky_lucas> jordo23: on kde 3.5.6 I guess
[10:53] <eguzkia> Arwen: this can create a dvd from adivx?
[10:53] <eguzkia> Arwen: this can create a dvd from a divx?
[10:53] <jordo23> lucky_lucas: Yeah....kubuntu feisty
[10:53] <Arwen> "a divx"? wtf? and yes, it can create DVDs...
[10:53] <LinkCanabico> jordo23,lucky_lucas are the files plain zip or 7zip because 7zip neads an extra packege
[10:54] <jordo23> LinkCanabico: no....regular compressed files...
[10:54] <jrick> ok, I'm back, try rebooting.
[10:54] <jordo23> brb....will be away trying solutions....back in a few
[10:54] <jrick> this will kill the process.
[10:54] <LinkCanabico> OK let me know
[10:55] <jrick> hopefully.
[10:55] <lucky_lucas> jordo23:  ok HL when you're back
[10:55] <mike__> okay
[10:55] <mike__> brb
[10:55] <froggie> any idea how i can delete all temporary files ? dont even know where they are located, tried 'locate temp', but it creates a massive list with 'template' folders, which isn't what i'm looking for. also: when trying to remove programs i get 'kdadept (or something) is already running, but it isnt, and even a reboot doesnt help it.
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> take a look in /tmp
[10:57] <froggie> coolthanks:-)
[10:57] <soulrider> froggie: temporary as in internet temporary ?
[10:57] <froggie> yeah, any temp files
[10:57] <jordo23> lucky_lucas: will do
[10:57] <froggie> need qiuck diskspace...
[10:57] <soulrider> well, those must be in your home directory
[10:57] <soulrider> froggie:  check out filelight, it will show you where your space is going
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> froggie: clean your apt cache
[10:58] <froggie> filelight, apt cache
[10:59] <froggie> hm, k, looking :-)
[10:59] <mike__> jrick: okay im backl
[10:59] <jrick> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[10:59] <manta> salut
[11:00] <mike__> okay it works again
[11:00] <jrick> continue with the defaults
[11:00] <jrick> until monitor autodetection
[11:00] <mike__> just hit enter untill...?
[11:01] <mike__>  Rather than communicating directly with the video hardware, the X server  
[11:01] <mike__>   may be configured to perform some operations, such as video mode          
[11:01] <mike__>   switching, via the kernel's framebuffer driver.                           
[11:01] <mike__>                                                                             
[11:01] <mike__>   In theory, either approach should work, but in practice, sometimes one    
[11:01] <mike__>   does and the other does not.  Enabling this option is the safe bet, but   
[11:01] <mike__>   feel free to turn it off if it appears to cause problems.
[11:01] <mike__> SORRY EVERYONE. =/
[11:02] <jrick> keep default
[11:02] <jrick> enter
[11:02] <mike__> use kernel framebuffer device interface'?
[11:02] <mike__> yes or no
[11:02] <mike__> those are my choicse
[11:02] <jrick> yes
[11:02] <mike__> okay
[11:03] <jrick> now what?
[11:03] <mike__> default keyboard layout
[11:03] <mike__> yes or no
[11:03] <jrick> can't you just click enter to keep default?
[11:03] <mike__>  Choose this option if you want the keyboard layout to be redetected.  Do  
[11:03] <mike__>   not choose it if you want to keep your current layout.                    
[11:03] <mike__>                                                                             
[11:03] <mike__>   Autodetect keyboard layout?
[11:03] <jrick> no
[11:04] <luca> hi everyone
[11:04] <jrick> if you like your layout :)
[11:04] <jrick> next?
[11:04] <mike__> Mouse protocol
[11:04] <luca> can someone help me set my kubuntu so that it loads my fat32 partitions automatically at startup, without me having to do it manually with nautilus and always giving my admin password?
[11:05] <mike__> ImPS/2
[11:05] <mike__> ExplorerPS/2
[11:05] <jrick> just click enter for the selected one
[11:05] <mike__> X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default:
[11:06] <jrick> just click enter
[11:06] <jrick> those settings highlighted are the ones you are currently using
[11:06] <mike__> Write default Files section to configuration file?
[11:06] <mike__> oh okay
[11:06] <jrick> enter
[11:06] <mike__> okay im at monitor auto detection
[11:06] <jrick> yes
[11:07] <mike__> click yes?
[11:07] <jrick> yeah
[11:07] <mike__> sorry if im asking stupid questions
[11:07] <jrick> thats ok
[11:07] <mike__> i dont wanna screw around with somthing that will mess up my pc
[11:07] <mike__> Generic Monitor
[11:08] <BluesKaj> mike__: there are no stipid questions ....however , some of the answers could be :)
[11:08] <jrick> type your moniter model
[11:08] <mike__> all i know is that its made from emachines
[11:08] <jrick> ok, just type that.
[11:09] <mike__> Video modes to be used by the X server:
[11:09] <sercik> please.. i'm able to choose resolution but non the good refresh
[11:09] <jrick> do you know that resolutions it can handle?
[11:09] <mike__> no i dont
[11:10] <mike__> i know i need 800x600
[11:10] <eXistenz> is it recommended to upgrade to feisty?
[11:10] <luca> mike_ you should seriously backup your xorg.conf if you're working on it...
[11:11] <jrick> ok, select 1280 X 1024, along with the three that are already selected.
[11:11] <jrick> these are standards
[11:11] <jrick> how old is your monitor?
[11:11] <jrick> and how big?
[11:11] <mike__> these are the ones with *'s next to them
[11:11] <jrick> yes
[11:12] <linux_> cual es la pagina en espaol?
[11:12] <jrick> use <space> to select
[11:12] <mike__> 1024x800
[11:12] <mike__> 800x600
[11:12] <mike__> 640x480
[11:12] <jrick> add 1280 X 1024
[11:12] <jrick> your monitor can probably handle this
[11:12] <jrick> probably :)
[11:13] <mike__> dosent the * mean its already added?
[11:13] <jrick> yes
[11:13] <mike__> then i dont need to add it again
[11:13] <jrick> ok, if the resolutions are selected, press enter.
[11:13] <Arwen> jrick, 1280x1024 is non-standard.... mike__, try 1600x1200
[11:14] <jrick> that's kinda big.
[11:14] <Arwen> na, not at all
[11:14] <linux_> hola
[11:14] <Arwen> standard 4:3 resolution... unless, does he have a crappy LCD or a laptop?
[11:14] <jujimufu> !autostart
[11:14] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[11:14] <jujimufu> thanks ubotu
[11:14] <jujimufu> :P
[11:14] <jrick> most peoples are 1280*1024 and 1024*768
[11:14] <jrick> although mine is 1600*1200
[11:15] <mike__> wait
[11:15] <mike__> so select 1600x1200
[11:15] <mike__> isnt that really big?
[11:15] <jrick> yes
[11:15] <Arwen> mike__, yeah, if your monitor is decent, it should support it
[11:15] <MuJ> no
[11:15] <linux_> alguien me ayuda
[11:15] <Arwen> and no, it's not big at all
[11:15] <mike__> oh okay
[11:15] <Arwen> 1920x1200 is big
[11:15] <jujimufu> !chmod
[11:15] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:15] <mike__> jrick: now what?
[11:15] <jrick> wait mike
[11:15] <mike__> okay
[11:15] <dani> hi
[11:15] <jrick> did you enter?
[11:15] <Arwen> mike__, yeah, so if 1600x1200 doesn't work, then try 1280x1024
[11:16] <dani> I have a prob with the sound in flash
[11:16] <mike__> i pressed space to add 1600x1200
[11:16] <linux_> hola
[11:16] <mike__> do i push enter?
[11:16] <jrick> ok, how many inches diagonally is your monitor?
[11:16] <jrick> the screen
[11:16] <mike__> umm....hold on
[11:18] <linux_> alguien sabes la pagina de espaol?
[11:18] <lupo> will installation and usage of automatix2 break the upgrading from feisty to next release
[11:19] <Tm_T> !es | linux_
[11:19] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:19] <mike__> 16 in.
[11:19] <jrick> select both 1600*1200 and 1224*1028
[11:19] <jujimufu> did anyone else feel a great change from edgy 6.10 to feisty fawn 7.04, or is it just me?
[11:19] <jrick> 1280
[11:19] <jujimufu> I think feisty has become like, 10 times more userfriendly that kubuntu has ever been
[11:19] <mike__> there isnt a 1224x1028
[11:20] <jrick> 1280
[11:20] <mike__> 1280x1028
[11:20] <jrick> typo
[11:20] <mike__> there isnt a 1280x1028
[11:20] <jrick> ok once you have those selected + the bottom three, enter
[11:20] <mike__> 1280x1024
[11:21] <jrick> yes
[11:21] <mike__> oh okay
[11:21] <mike__> what do i choose?
[11:21] <mike__> medium, simple, or advanced
[11:22] <jrick> do you have a crt (big) or flat pannel?
[11:22] <mike__> crt
[11:22] <jrick> simple
[11:22] <mike__> about 14 in.
[11:22] <mike__> or 15 in
[11:22] <mike__> 17 in
[11:22] <mike__> 19-20 in
[11:22] <mike__> 21 in
[11:22] <mike__> 17 or 15
[11:23] <jrick> I have the list, try 17 or 15
[11:23] <jrick> either should work
[11:23] <mike__> Write monitor sync ranges to the configuration file?
[11:23] <mike__> yes or no
[11:23] <jrick> what's highlighted?
[11:23] <mike__> yes
[11:23] <jrick> yes
[11:24] <Tm_T> yes
[11:24] <Tm_T> (what's this game?)
[11:24] <jrick> 24
[11:24] <mike__> Desired default color depth in bits:
[11:24] <jrick> 24
[11:24] <mike__> ok
[11:24] <premier> can someone recomend a good ide for java besides eclipse?
[11:24] <mike__> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[11:24] <mike__>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070504172432
[11:24] <jrick> premier: kdevelop or netbeans
[11:25] <jrick> um, sure backup. that sounds safe
[11:25] <mike__> how do i do backup?
[11:25] <jrick> oh wait, nevermind.
[11:25] <jrick> I was stupid.
[11:25] <mike__> oh ok
[11:26] <mike__> now what
[11:26] <jrick> typing...
[11:26] <mike__> ok
[11:27] <jrick> to restart X server, do a <ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace>.  Make sure you have all your open files saved.  it will look like you just logged out.  You'll know real fast if something went wrong ;)
[11:28] <mike__> okay hope this worked!!!!!!!!!!
[11:28] <jrick> if he doesn't return, he's a gonner.
[11:29] <jrick> I hope my advice was good.
[11:29] <linux_> como era ubuntu en espaol
[11:29] <jrick> uh oh. taking a while.
[11:30] <jrick> this can't be good.
[11:31] <intelikey> who knows all about  unionfs   and   using ramdisks   ?
[11:31] <jrick> if his x server is messed up, hopefully he knows to use his kubuntu cd.
[11:31] <sercik> how can i change resolution monitor
[11:32] <intelikey> jrick or irssi
[11:32] <linux_> ubuntu en espaol
[11:32] <linux_> por favor
[11:32] <jrick> yeah?
[11:32] <jrick> no idea
[11:32] <linux_> ah
[11:33] <Tm_T> !es | linux_
[11:33] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:33] <intelikey> Tm_T im building a live cd   and i'm not sure how to setup the unionfs to make /etc and /tmp writable    can you point me in the right dirrection ?
[11:33] <Tm_T> intelikey: I have no idea =)
[11:33] <Tm_T> sorry
[11:34] <intelikey> k
[11:34] <Tm_T> but good luck with it
[11:34] <intelikey> :)
[11:34] <jrick> I feel bad if mike's configuration won't let him back in.
[11:34] <Tm_T> I think it's time for me to go, the moon is light in my way ->
[11:35] <ubuntu> somebody can tell me how can i connect me to the undernet
[11:35] <TiLK> Hello. Need help with found mobile phone in KMobileTools connected via IrDA. I can transfer files via OBEX for example with Konqueror. But KMobileTools cant find the phone.
[11:35] <ubuntu> ??
[11:35] <TiLK> Also when I tipe "irdadump" into konsole, I see that connection is established.
[11:35] <intelikey> that seems to be all i'm lacking.  i have already burned the first succesful test run   but i omited any way for /etc/ and /tmp/ to be writable on the live boot....     i know unionfs and a ramdisk is all i need but i'm totally blank on where to start on that.
[11:36] <TiLK> I spent some time also on KMailSupport but without ducces.
[11:38] <feffer> Hi all, I'm having a problem in Fiesty. I lost my gui
[11:38] <feffer> Problem involves nvidia drivers
[11:38] <feffer> I was getting interlacing on screen
[11:39] <feffer> Any ideas
[11:40] <feffer> refresh rate was defaulting to 43 interlace
[11:40] <BluesKaj> feffer:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the konsole
[11:40] <feffer> BluesKaj: will that reset xorg?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> when you get to the monitor setup choose advanced
[11:40] <joshua__> no mike, boo hoo.
[11:41] <BluesKaj> yes feffer
[11:41] <roadfish> Have Kubutu on two computer. Am getting "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly" on my 350MHz computer but not my AMD 2300 computer. Any tips on fixing?
[11:41] <feffer> BluesKaj: I think I made it worse because setting 85 Hz wouldn't stick
[11:41] <feffer> had to change it each reboot
[11:42] <feffer> screen was ok then, but not persistent
[11:42] <feffer> finally, I made a mistake and installed an older nvidia driver, 8776
[11:42] <feffer> After that I lost the gui
[11:43] <BluesKaj> that's way too high , feffer..try 75
[11:43] <feffer> I did 75 didn't persist either
[11:43] <feffer> BluesKaj:  first I think I need to get the gui back
[11:44] <intelikey> roadfish dmesg   shed any light ?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[11:46] <intelikey> feffer if you reconfig the thing and edit xorg.conf and add a comment it should stop ubuntu from re configuring it each boot
[11:46] <intelikey> or knock out the wacom junk
[11:46] <intelikey> that would work just as well
[11:47] <feffer> intelikey: OK, I'll try that. How do I get my original nvidia drivers back?
[11:47] <intelikey> feffer origenal ?
[11:47] <intelikey> the   'nv'  driver ?
[11:48] <feffer> No, nvidia 1.0-9631
[11:48] <intelikey> same way you got it the first time ?
[11:48] <feffer> I lost the gui, after downgrading it to 8776
[11:49] <feffer> intelikey: that happened when I upgraded to Fiesty
[11:49] <intelikey> !nvidia
[11:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:49] <feffer> OK, thanks, I'll check that
[11:50] <intelikey> feffer idk   feisty seems to be quite problematic.   almost as much so as previous releases;  or maybe more...
[11:50] <intelikey> most people that can do (or stand to do) default everything    it seems to work for them.
[11:51] <feffer> intelikey: well, if all else fails, I have a back to Edgy
[11:51] <feffer> backup to Edgy
[11:51] <intelikey> i stood under you
[11:52] <feffer> intelikey: my box is about 5 years old, and the graphics card seems to be less supported lately
[11:53] <feffer> maybe time to get a new box and "freeze" the older one at Edgy
[11:53] <intelikey> yeah i have an old riva128  tried once to install the propritary driver...  failed miserably and gave up.
[11:54] <lettuce> what's the easiest way to install video card drivers in kubuntu?
[11:54] <feffer> intelikey: thanks for the help. I'll reboot and try those suggestions
[11:54] <intelikey> lettuce use the free ones supplied
[11:54] <lettuce> what do you mean
[11:54] <intelikey> lettuce that's the easiest way
[11:55] <intelikey> lettuce use the free ones supplied by ubuntu and already installed
[11:55] <lettuce> you mean my drivers are already installed?
[11:55] <intelikey> do you have a gui ?
[11:55] <lettuce> ya
[11:55] <intelikey> then a driver is installed
[11:56] <intelikey> what kind of card is it ?
[11:56] <lettuce> but well just because I have a gui doesn't mean a driver is installed
[11:56] <lettuce> it's an nvidia 660
[11:56] <lettuce> *6600
[11:56] <santa_> hi
[11:56] <santa_> anybody usin qgis?
[11:56] <intelikey> yeah it does.  you are using the   'nv'  driver installed but ubuntu
[11:57] <intelikey> if you want the propritary driver see the link from ubotu  !nv
[11:57] <lettuce> ya, the propritary driver is wht i ment
[11:57] <lettuce> !nv
[11:57] <intelikey> !nv | lettuce
[11:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:57] <ubotu> lettuce: please see above
[11:57] <roadfish> intelikey: nothing in dmseg about the file protocol problem. but I do see something about kio in ~/.xsession-errors ... could this be relevant?
[11:58] <santa_> and grass?
[11:58] <santa_> can't run grass rom qgis
[11:58] <santa_> can't run grass from qgis
[11:58] <santa_> bye
[11:58] <lettuce> wtf
[11:58] <intelikey> roadfish could be.  i'm not well versed in kio
[11:58] <lettuce> lpoop
[11:58] <phpcode> lol
[11:58] <lettuce> weeeeeeeeee
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> that was...  insane
[11:59] <SSJ_GZ> Like a fireworks show
[11:59] <lettuce> poor man's fireworks
[11:59] <SSJ_GZ> But using text
[11:59] <phpcode> what was that? :S
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> phpcode: server crash?
[12:00] <phpcode> i dont know. thats why im asking ;)
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> or a server restart
[12:00] <lettuce> does kubuntu feisty have a quick and easy way to install drivers like ubuntu does?
[12:00] <thefirstdude> firestorms in kentucky broke a cable
[12:01] <nuu> hi
[12:02] <nuu> beside the ~/.kde/Autostart directory, where can programs be put to get them to automatically run on kde logon ?
[12:02] <thefirstdude>  /etc/init.d/
[12:02] <nuu> on kde logon ??
[12:03] <thefirstdude> nuu...dono
[12:03] <nuu> init.d contains all init scripts, that get called from the relative rcX.d symlink when the system enters the X runlevel
[12:03] <nuu> i'm talking about KDE, not system
[12:03] <gjo> ciao non capisco
[12:03] <thefirstdude> your right, i'm wrong, your smart, I'm stupid, your strong, I'm weak...
[12:04] <nuu> gjo: #ubuntu-it
[12:04] <Firippu> can somebody help me installing fluxbox // i got it installed but gnome is starting
[12:04] <gjo> mi aiuti
[12:04] <nuu> !it | gjo
[12:04] <ubotu> gjo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:05] <gjo> ciao a tutti
[12:05] <gjo> grazie
[12:05] <nuu> np
[12:08] <Alonea> Ok, I see a lot of people talking about this vmware thing, and I don't understand what its exact purpose is. I went to website, but I still don't get it.
[12:08] <morvok> alonea: what do you mean?
[12:08] <nuu> vmware is a software that virtualizes your hardware, in that it creates a "virtual machine" where you can run an operating system inside another one
[12:08] <Alonea> morvok: what is vmware? what does it do? why are people using it so much?
[12:09] <nuu> for instance, you can run linux from within windows
[12:09] <nuu> or vice-versa
[12:09] <Alonea> nuu: ok, thats pretty near. could you run Mac OS X inside linux?
[12:09] <Alonea> nuu: neat
[12:09] <Dragnslcr> Actually, now that you mention it
[12:09] <roadfish> can kio messages in ~/.xsession-errors be relevent to a "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly" message?
[12:09] <nuu> with the due amount of tweaking, you can for sure run mac osx inside windows
[12:09] <nuu> theoretically the same applies to linux
[12:09] <morvok> running 10 different OS's at once on the same computer at the same time.. good for serving, research and development and application development
[12:10] <Dragnslcr> Is there a free version of VMWare that can run a Windows VM inside Linux? I haven't been much attention lately
[12:10] <morvok> yes
[12:10] <Chousuke> Dragnslcr: VMWare server
[12:10] <Alonea> nuu: ok, I will have to try that out sometime. Is it free?
[12:10] <Alonea> nuu: I have been looking at Mac, but I don't want to have to buy a mac computer to use it when I already have a computer.
[12:10] <morvok> Alonea: some are
[12:11] <Alonea> morvok: ok, is there some place that would explain how I could use this thing, get it, and so on?
[12:12] <Dragnslcr> Chousuke- is it the vmware-server-kernel-modules package, or is it only available for download from the VMWare site?
[12:12] <kane_> does kubuntu have any good dc client available?
[12:12] <morvok> Alonea: vmware.com.
[12:12] <|ericsson|> is there an irc-client for command-line useage?
[12:13] <nuu> Alonea: mac os x under vmware is not exactly easy to get up and running. you may want to look at http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to to get a first idea
[12:13] <morvok> Alonea: also for a truely free virtual machine. Qemu: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[12:14] <nuu> bear in mind this is way more complex than running any other OS within a virtual machine