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| catid | RAOF: hi RAOF.. i reinstalled with LVM and noticed something odd.. df -h shows i'm using 32gigs of disk space? | 02:07 |
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| RAOF | That does seem odd. | 02:08 |
| catid | i'm using my own kernel.. does Ubuntu patch LVM somehow? | 02:09 |
| RAOF | Not as far as I'm aware. | 02:09 |
| RAOF | Can you pastebin the output of df -h? | 02:09 |
| catid | well.. i don't care so long as that problem will fix itself when i finish the reiser4 move thing | 02:09 |
| catid | sure | 02:09 |
| catid | http://pastebin.ca/469962 | 02:11 |
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| RAOF | Hm. How sure are you that you're not *actually* using 32Gb of disc space? :) | 02:12 |
| catid | scanning with baobab now to find out where all that disk space is going.. | 02:12 |
| catid | oh my, i actually am using that much space O_o | 02:14 |
| catid | well, maybe the compression support in reiser4 will help a bit with that | 02:15 |
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| catid | RAOF: is there a graphical utility to manage LVM? | 02:38 |
| RAOF | evms, I think. | 02:38 |
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| RAOF | But I generally just do my lvm from a terminal. | 02:39 |
| RAOF | It's not something I do a lot :) | 02:39 |
| catid | what do you use as a reference? | 02:39 |
| RAOF | man pages :) | 02:40 |
| catid | yeah evms has a nice gui | 02:43 |
| RAOF | I believe it handles LVM, although I've never seriously tried to use it :) | 02:43 |
| catid | it does | 02:43 |
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| Django84 | hi! | 04:12 |
| Django84 | got a GRUB trouble can help me? | 04:12 |
| Django84 | I fixed my menu.lst, but something is making it go to an old menu.lst | 04:12 |
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| j_ojo | goodmorning | 11:57 |
| j_ojo | could anyone help me add a custom resolution to my options | 11:57 |
| Tm_T | in Gutsy? | 11:59 |
| j_ojo | 7.04 | 12:00 |
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| j_ojo | is gutsy out yet ? | 12:01 |
| j_ojo | err i just need to go look at that link | 12:01 |
| j_ojo | heh screen is still big i gotta get the resolution set in | 12:02 |
| j_ojo | heh | 12:02 |
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| Tm_T | j_ojo: well, don't touch to gutsy, so go to #ubuntu ;) | 12:02 |
| Tm_T | !resolution | j_ojo | 12:02 |
| ubotu | j_ojo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 12:02 |
| j_ojo | cool | 12:04 |
| j_ojo | ty for the links | 12:04 |
| j_ojo | and you allhave a good day or night depending where you are | 12:05 |
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| Tm_T | j_ojo: thanks and good luck ;) | 12:09 |
| j_ojo | lol i am probally gonna wait for my friend to wake up let him do it remotely lol | 12:10 |
| j_ojo | ty thou i saved the pages in my fav's take care | 12:10 |
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| borschty | the xserver is taking too much VIRT-memory, about 414MB after startup... does someone else have that problem? | 02:04 |
| dsk | yep i have the same problem here | 02:19 |
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| borschty | dsk which driver do you use? | 02:22 |
| borschty | i use the free radeon driver | 02:22 |
| dsk | i use intel 810 driver | 02:23 |
| dsk | have you turned on desktop effects? | 02:23 |
| borschty | no | 02:23 |
| borschty | i have the "damage" "xfixes" and "randr" extensions enabled | 02:24 |
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| dsk | i disabled everything i could and still usage is 377 :( | 02:25 |
| borschty | dsk: you measured after starting or some time later? | 02:26 |
| borschty | (firefox/epiphany use a lot of x-memory) | 02:27 |
| dsk | lemme close firefox | 02:27 |
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| dsk | still 372m | 02:29 |
| dsk | :( | 02:29 |
| dsk | closed evolution and firefox | 02:29 |
| dsk | this was not a problem in Fedora Core 6 | 02:29 |
| ssam | get xrestop, it shows what programs are using X memory | 02:29 |
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| dsk | ssam : ok let me try that | 02:30 |
| dsk | res : 39m :) but why is VIRT 363m still? | 02:31 |
| dsk | how come X take 363m as virtual? | 02:31 |
| borschty | ssam: when i checked it after starting up: the programs were using about 3mb total | 02:32 |
| ssam | borschty, sounds like its a problem in X, rather than programs making X store lots of pixmaps for them | 02:33 |
| borschty | yes, thats what i thought, too | 02:33 |
| ssam | but memory usage is very confusing on linux | 02:33 |
| void^ | that's on 32bit systems? | 02:33 |
| borschty | x86 | 02:33 |
| ssam | there was an article a while ago that tried to explain what the different memory usage numbers mean | 02:34 |
| borschty | ssam: most of that is swapped out (not cached or buffered) | 02:34 |
| dsk | well guys, when i do "du- hs" on a big directory my memory available (seen from top) reduces to 10m | 02:35 |
| dsk | i could not find an explanation for this :( again | 02:36 |
| borschty | if you have the ram why not use it... but in case of the xserver it is leaking some memory, because it has not uses so much memory before | 02:37 |
| void^ | well, that's virtual memory. as long as your system isn't running out of address space it's not a problem | 02:38 |
| dsk | void^ : ok | 02:38 |
| borschty | it is taking almost 80% of my swap area... for nothing... bit annoying, but i can live with it ;) | 02:39 |
| borschty | what would be a good profiling program to check whats using so much memory | 02:40 |
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| StoneNote | sorry for the off-topic: I finally upgraded to Feisty from Edgy. It was painless and all my "must have" applications work as expected. Thanks for all the hard work guys & gals. You developers and testers did a great job. :D | 03:40 |
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| fnf | The newest version of WINE has been uploaded to Gutsy but not Feisty. Does anyone know they will ever upgrade WINE package in Feisty ?, or do I have to enable "backport" repos (even in which case, when will WINE be updated ?) or compile it myself ? | 04:06 |
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| fnf | Anyone ?. Wine is horribly outdated here. | 04:08 |
| poorenglish_ | fnf: feisty only have security updates, isn`t? | 04:11 |
| fnf | poorenglish_: that explains it, thanks. | 04:12 |
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| EmxBA | I've got Ubuntu 7.04 CDs! arrived in 15 days! | 05:31 |
| EmxBA | *wow* | 05:32 |
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| Xemanth | EmxBA: where do you live? | 05:48 |
| EmxBA | Bosnia and Herzegovina, south east europe. | 05:49 |
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| Xemanth | where did the cd come from ? :) | 05:50 |
| EmxBA | Netherlands | 05:51 |
| EmxBA | it comes just from there, because there's the shipping company | 05:52 |
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| Dervius | Hello everyone, I don't suppose anyone here might know how to fix an install that boots and then stays hung up after a minute? | 06:39 |
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| Answer | Any changes in devel for madwifi trouble with WEP key? I can do all flavors of WPA/WPA2/LEAP/EAP-FAST/PEAP/IEEE8021X but I cannot get online with a simple preshared WEP key | 07:16 |
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| concept10 | have they opened the repos yet? | 07:26 |
| jussi01 | concept10: /topic.... | 07:28 |
| Answer | I tried to tell him... | 07:28 |
| jussi01 | lol | 07:28 |
| Answer | !gutsy | concept10 | 07:29 |
| ubotu | concept10: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1 | 07:29 |
| concept10 | have you guys actually read the topic? it says nothing | 07:29 |
| jussi01 | concept10: click the link... | 07:29 |
| Answer | if you want the short answer: no | 07:29 |
| concept10 | jussi01: I suggest _you_ click the link and read, as it isnt there | 07:29 |
| concept10 | Answer: you should have said that in the first place. | 07:30 |
| Answer | you should learn how to fish or you will starve | 07:30 |
| Answer | !topic | concept10 | 07:32 |
| ubotu | concept10: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 07:32 |
| jussi01 | the merge is happening, and yes, there is access to gutsy repos!! however if your asking these questions, you shouldnt be looking a a development version until at least alpha! | 07:32 |
| concept10 | Answer: please don't do that. | 07:33 |
| concept10 | All I asked was a simple question. Are the repos open are not. Reasonable question I think. It's basically yes/no. 1/0. On/Off. opened/not yet opened. | 07:34 |
| johnnybuoy | 1 | 07:37 |
| johnnybuoy | or is it 0 | 07:37 |
| Answer | "Whether you think that you can or that you can't, you are usually right" - Henry Ford | 07:37 |
| johnnybuoy | hah | 07:38 |
| Answer | seriously tho... all flavors of WPA/WPA2/LEAP/EAP-FAST/PEAP/IEEE8021X, but there is one WEP network that I cannot get online | 07:39 |
| jussi01 | Answer: your using gutsy?? | 07:40 |
| jussi01 | Answer: if not head on over to #ubuntu ... :D | 07:41 |
| Answer | I have asked in #ubuntu and in #madwifi as well. I have the same issue with edgy/feisty/gutsy. Are there any changed in devel for WEP? | 07:42 |
| concept10 | heh | 07:43 |
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| jussi01 | Answer: I dont know, I use knetwork manager, not mad wifi, your best bet is probably to email the mad wifi devs who would probably know... | 07:45 |
| johnnybuoy | Answer, you use hardware wep or the software wep? | 07:45 |
| Answer | johnnybuoy: which is which? I tried wep with iwconfig and with wpa_supplicant | 07:46 |
| Answer | I have rolled out dapper/edgy/feisty/ to ~50 customers now, 11 have compatible WEP networks but one I am stuck. it is like http://madwifi.org/ticket/1016 but they say that ticket is closed defect:fixed, but I apply patches and recompile and no luck... | 07:48 |
| johnnybuoy | what happens? | 07:49 |
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| Answer | iwlist ath1 scan shows multiple APs that match SSID. Put in SSID and it gets AP and LinkQuality. Put in WEP key, it goes Not-Associated, LinkQuality=0. No pings | 07:50 |
| johnnybuoy | hmm | 07:51 |
| johnnybuoy | iwconfig ath1 key whatever? | 07:51 |
| Answer | yep. and open / restricted. I also ran it through wpa_supplicant wep examples | 07:51 |
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| Answer | I setup a test environment with the same SSID and WEP and had no trouble. I'm waiting to hear the brand and model of the AP to try to recreate the issue | 07:52 |
| Answer | I also tried iwpriv ath1 authmode 1/2/3/4 | 07:52 |
| johnnybuoy | defect? | 07:53 |
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| Answer | turn the wep key off on the ap and the card gets online no problem. also tried multiple wifi card models | 07:55 |
| Answer | would upgrading to gutsy would provide any changes in WEP handling? | 07:56 |
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| johnnybuoy | tried any different key? :P | 07:58 |
| Answer | customer is not that eager to reconfigure all devices | 07:58 |
| Answer | it works in Windows tho | 07:58 |
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| johnnybuoy | :) | 07:59 |
| johnnybuoy | dunno, intel works quite nice | 07:59 |
| johnnybuoy | and wpa works? and it works with other aps of the same sort? | 08:00 |
| johnnybuoy | or different aps, i mean | 08:00 |
| Answer | yeah... atheros works for everything else. I have it running on WPA, WPA2, LEAP, EAP-FAST, PEAP, IEEE8021X and 11 other WEP networks | 08:01 |
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| Answer | I tried 6.06, 6.10, 7.04... I have no problem upgrading to gutsy if there is any benefit | 08:01 |
| Answer | from what I can tell it doesn't change wpa_supplicant, openssl, madwifi, etc | 08:01 |
| Answer | so it would handle WEP the same | 08:01 |
| johnnybuoy | gutsy is almost as feisty, it'll change tho | 08:02 |
| johnnybuoy | but is that a driver problem? | 08:02 |
| johnnybuoy | hmm | 08:02 |
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| johnnybuoy | what version of madwifi do you have? | 08:05 |
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| Answer | johnnybuoy: I tried madwifi-ng and madwifi-old and a recompiled version with patches from http://madwifi.org/ticket/1016 | 08:07 |
| Adri2000 | Seveas: there is a typo in the entry message sent by ChanServ | 08:08 |
| johnnybuoy | newest madwifi i presume | 08:08 |
| Answer | johnnybuoy: yeah I guess. I have tried versions that come with kernel 2.6.15, 2.6.17, etc | 08:09 |
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| Seveas | Adri2000, gracias | 08:10 |
| johnnybuoy | wow | 08:10 |
| johnnybuoy | that bug doesn't seem to be solved for 4 months | 08:10 |
| Answer | yeah, even worse the dev who posted the change just told me in #madwifi "<mentor> Answer: Lots of people have been experiencing that issue. I've not tracked down the cause yet." | 08:11 |
| johnnybuoy | wellywell... | 08:11 |
| johnnybuoy | that sucks... | 08:12 |
| johnnybuoy | man.. | 08:12 |
| Answer | it just blows my mind that we made all these other protocols work and now we cnanot support simple wep | 08:12 |
| Answer | that is what we tell our customers we prefer | 08:12 |
| Answer | I just had one switch to wpa/leap and was happy | 08:12 |
| johnnybuoy | wpa is very nice | 08:12 |
| johnnybuoy | compared to wep | 08:13 |
| Answer | yeah but 2 years ago it was not supported and wpa_supplicant was unstable :/ | 08:13 |
| johnnybuoy | 2 years ago... | 08:13 |
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| concept10 | Answer: do you have your own consulting business or are you working for someone else (just curious) | 08:15 |
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| Answer | concept10: I work for someone else | 08:17 |
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| concept10 | Answer: do you guys have great success offering foss solutions? | 08:18 |
| Answer | concept10: Linux is way better than Windows for our application. we just have occasional trouble with the customers random network infrastructures | 08:19 |
| Answer | this one is just really frustrating bc we have implemented all flavors of wpa which we could not previously use, but now we have trouble with simple wep - doesn't make any sense | 08:21 |
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| plugwash | any idea if/when pidgin will hit gutsy? | 09:26 |
| Answer | Is there any resolution to "WEP key for wireless takes only uppercase" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/30596 | 09:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 30596 in netcfg "WEP key for wireless takes only uppercase" [Medium,Unconfirmed] | 09:28 |
| Answer | I think this might be the same problem I am having | 09:29 |
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| concept10 | whats the best way to find the differences between sid packages and additions added in gutsy? | 09:51 |
| concept10 | nm | 09:52 |
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