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[02:08] That does seem odd. [02:09] i'm using my own kernel.. does Ubuntu patch LVM somehow? [02:09] Not as far as I'm aware. [02:09] Can you pastebin the output of df -h? [02:09] well.. i don't care so long as that problem will fix itself when i finish the reiser4 move thing [02:09] sure [02:11] http://pastebin.ca/469962 === duende [n=corey@stjhnf0121w-142163180100.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:12] Hm. How sure are you that you're not *actually* using 32Gb of disc space? :) [02:12] scanning with baobab now to find out where all that disk space is going.. [02:14] oh my, i actually am using that much space O_o [02:15] well, maybe the compression support in reiser4 will help a bit with that === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-106-81.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu+1 === someothernick [n=someothe@pool-72-85-214-35.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lokk [n=lokk@202-224.dsl.bbtel.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lokk [n=lokk@202-224.dsl.bbtel.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["leaving"] [02:38] RAOF: is there a graphical utility to manage LVM? [02:38] evms, I think. === Citizenjoe [n=Citizenj@adsl-070-145-232-086.sip.int.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:39] But I generally just do my lvm from a terminal. [02:39] It's not something I do a lot :) [02:39] what do you use as a reference? 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[04:12] got a GRUB trouble can help me? 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[12:00] 7.04 === dougie [n=dougie@pool-71-240-108-84.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:01] is gutsy out yet ? [12:01] err i just need to go look at that link [12:02] heh screen is still big i gotta get the resolution set in [12:02] heh === gallag [n=gina@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:02] j_ojo: well, don't touch to gutsy, so go to #ubuntu ;) [12:02] !resolution | j_ojo [12:02] j_ojo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [12:04] cool [12:04] ty for the links [12:05] and you allhave a good day or night depending where you are === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:09] j_ojo: thanks and good luck ;) [12:10] lol i am probally gonna wait for my friend to wake up let him do it remotely lol [12:10] ty thou i saved the pages in my fav's take care === j_ojo [n=j@c-68-60-1-255.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === dsk [i=dsk@gateway/tor/x-0612ade6b81ac6cd] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-69-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kill_X [i=kill_x@p54A16FF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Contrast [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu+1 === a6km64 [n=phipa@host-82-135-37-173.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === someothernick [n=someothe@pool-72-85-214-35.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === a6km64 [n=phipa@host-82-135-37-173.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === a6km64 [n=phipa@host-82-135-37-173.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === a6km64 [n=phipa@host-82-135-37-173.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === a6km64 [n=phipa@host-82-135-37-173.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === seraphim [n=seraphim@e179133116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arpu [n=arpu@chello080109078137.4.15.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borschty [n=sebastia@p54bb6294.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === valehru [n=valehru@221.221.129.140] has joined #ubuntu+1 === motin [n=motin@c-6f96e255.19-15-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === motin__ [n=motin@c-6f96e255.19-15-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _sojourner [n=ron@69-161-153-232.miamfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tigge [n=tigge@bacchus.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-124-16.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === IdleOne [n=idleone@unaffiliated/idleone] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borschty [n=sebastia@p54BB450F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:04] the xserver is taking too much VIRT-memory, about 414MB after startup... does someone else have that problem? [02:19] yep i have the same problem here === seraphim_ [n=seraphim@e179137040.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:22] dsk which driver do you use? [02:22] i use the free radeon driver [02:23] i use intel 810 driver [02:23] have you turned on desktop effects? [02:23] no [02:24] i have the "damage" "xfixes" and "randr" extensions enabled === afflux [i=k@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x6E18D3C4] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:25] i disabled everything i could and still usage is 377 :( [02:26] dsk: you measured after starting or some time later? [02:27] (firefox/epiphany use a lot of x-memory) [02:27] lemme close firefox === os2mac [n=jim@209.193.53.178] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:29] still 372m [02:29] :( [02:29] closed evolution and firefox [02:29] this was not a problem in Fedora Core 6 [02:29] get xrestop, it shows what programs are using X memory === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:30] ssam : ok let me try that [02:31] res : 39m :) but why is VIRT 363m still? [02:31] how come X take 363m as virtual? [02:32] ssam: when i checked it after starting up: the programs were using about 3mb total [02:33] borschty, sounds like its a problem in X, rather than programs making X store lots of pixmaps for them [02:33] yes, thats what i thought, too [02:33] but memory usage is very confusing on linux [02:33] that's on 32bit systems? [02:33] x86 [02:34] there was an article a while ago that tried to explain what the different memory usage numbers mean [02:34] ssam: most of that is swapped out (not cached or buffered) [02:35] well guys, when i do "du- hs" on a big directory my memory available (seen from top) reduces to 10m [02:36] i could not find an explanation for this :( again [02:37] if you have the ram why not use it... but in case of the xserver it is leaking some memory, because it has not uses so much memory before [02:38] well, that's virtual memory. as long as your system isn't running out of address space it's not a problem [02:38] void^ : ok [02:39] it is taking almost 80% of my swap area... for nothing... bit annoying, but i can live with it ;) [02:40] what would be a good profiling program to check whats using so much memory === poorenglish_ [n=poorengl@126.Red-217-126-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ilokaasu [n=matti@dsl-aur-ff27c000-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hidan [n=hidan@233.210-193-15.adsl.qala.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Lunar_Lamp [i=lunar@jpaweb02.planetarion.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@216.Red-88-20-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fnf [n=fnf@58.187.122.36] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fnf [n=fnf@58.187.122.36] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #ubuntu+1 === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kary [n=corey@stjhnf0121w-142163206029.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arpu [n=arpu@chello080109078137.4.15.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.145.140.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === philwyett [n=philip@bb-87-81-146-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === neonis [n=rob@dyndsl-085-016-177-143.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === StoneNote [n=StoneNot@unaffiliated/stonenote] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:40] sorry for the off-topic: I finally upgraded to Feisty from Edgy. It was painless and all my "must have" applications work as expected. Thanks for all the hard work guys & gals. You developers and testers did a great job. :D === StoneNote [n=StoneNot@unaffiliated/stonenote] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fools [n=lloyd@d154-5-114-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Lunar_Lamp [i=lunar@jpaweb02.planetarion.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-8-78.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === baskitcaise [n=barkit@89.240.195.132] has joined #ubuntu+1 === j_ack [n=jack@p508DC402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fnf [n=fnf@58.187.122.36] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-83.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:06] The newest version of WINE has been uploaded to Gutsy but not Feisty. Does anyone know they will ever upgrade WINE package in Feisty ?, or do I have to enable "backport" repos (even in which case, when will WINE be updated ?) or compile it myself ? === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.145.140.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:08] Anyone ?. Wine is horribly outdated here. [04:11] fnf: feisty only have security updates, isn`t? 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[05:32] *wow* === deep [n=deep@c-a52a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #ubuntu+1 === [4d39] [n=somebody@216-160-65-73.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === beavis [n=beavis@drms-590c9153.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === [4d39] [n=somebody@216-160-65-73.tukw.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:48] EmxBA: where do you live? [05:49] Bosnia and Herzegovina, south east europe. === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:50] where did the cd come from ? :) [05:51] Netherlands [05:52] it comes just from there, because there's the shipping company === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === acuster [n=acuster@AToulouse-256-1-75-7.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@85-250-29-230.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mbudde [n=mbudde@0x503e7767.boanxx21.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-15.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dervius [n=chatzill@pool-71-101-52-20.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XVampireX_ is now known as XVampireX [06:39] Hello everyone, I don't suppose anyone here might know how to fix an install that boots and then stays hung up after a minute? === mzuverink [n=mzuverin@adsl-76-212-95-62.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mzuverink [n=mzuverin@adsl-76-212-95-62.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === j_ack [n=jack@p508DC402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defendguin [n=jmsunser@216-136-108-250.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@216-164-162-138.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gallag_ [n=gina@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-83.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dervius [n=chatzill@pool-71-101-52-20.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === afflux [i=k@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x6E18D3C4] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chrisbudden14 [n=chrisbud@195.194.27.101] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF19DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Answer [n=hwilde@71.16.69.162] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:16] Any changes in devel for madwifi trouble with WEP key? I can do all flavors of WPA/WPA2/LEAP/EAP-FAST/PEAP/IEEE8021X but I cannot get online with a simple preshared WEP key === gord [n=gord@5ac7eae9.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SheaTara [n=shannon@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=HoMeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=adlaiff6@to196-145.resnet.stonybrook.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SheaTara [n=shannon@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-250-189-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:26] have they opened the repos yet? [07:28] concept10: /topic.... [07:28] I tried to tell him... [07:28] lol [07:29] !gutsy | concept10 [07:29] concept10: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1 [07:29] have you guys actually read the topic? it says nothing [07:29] concept10: click the link... [07:29] if you want the short answer: no [07:29] jussi01: I suggest _you_ click the link and read, as it isnt there [07:30] Answer: you should have said that in the first place. [07:30] you should learn how to fish or you will starve [07:32] !topic | concept10 [07:32] concept10: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [07:32] the merge is happening, and yes, there is access to gutsy repos!! however if your asking these questions, you shouldnt be looking a a development version until at least alpha! [07:33] Answer: please don't do that. [07:34] All I asked was a simple question. Are the repos open are not. Reasonable question I think. It's basically yes/no. 1/0. On/Off. opened/not yet opened. [07:37] 1 [07:37] or is it 0 [07:37] "Whether you think that you can or that you can't, you are usually right" - Henry Ford [07:38] hah [07:39] seriously tho... all flavors of WPA/WPA2/LEAP/EAP-FAST/PEAP/IEEE8021X, but there is one WEP network that I cannot get online [07:40] Answer: your using gutsy?? [07:41] Answer: if not head on over to #ubuntu ... :D [07:42] I have asked in #ubuntu and in #madwifi as well. I have the same issue with edgy/feisty/gutsy. Are there any changed in devel for WEP? [07:43] heh === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:45] Answer: I dont know, I use knetwork manager, not mad wifi, your best bet is probably to email the mad wifi devs who would probably know... [07:45] Answer, you use hardware wep or the software wep? [07:46] johnnybuoy: which is which? I tried wep with iwconfig and with wpa_supplicant [07:48] I have rolled out dapper/edgy/feisty/ to ~50 customers now, 11 have compatible WEP networks but one I am stuck. it is like http://madwifi.org/ticket/1016 but they say that ticket is closed defect:fixed, but I apply patches and recompile and no luck... [07:49] what happens? === wolki [n=wolki@client418.sg.fr.studentenwohnheim-bw.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:50] iwlist ath1 scan shows multiple APs that match SSID. Put in SSID and it gets AP and LinkQuality. Put in WEP key, it goes Not-Associated, LinkQuality=0. No pings [07:51] hmm [07:51] iwconfig ath1 key whatever? [07:51] yep. and open / restricted. I also ran it through wpa_supplicant wep examples === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.67] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:52] I setup a test environment with the same SSID and WEP and had no trouble. I'm waiting to hear the brand and model of the AP to try to recreate the issue [07:52] I also tried iwpriv ath1 authmode 1/2/3/4 [07:53] defect? === Adlai [n=adlaiff6@to196-145.resnet.stonybrook.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:55] turn the wep key off on the ap and the card gets online no problem. also tried multiple wifi card models [07:56] would upgrading to gutsy would provide any changes in WEP handling? === lowfi [n=lowfi@chello080109033167.14.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:58] tried any different key? :P [07:58] customer is not that eager to reconfigure all devices [07:58] it works in Windows tho === Answer ducks [07:59] :) [07:59] dunno, intel works quite nice [08:00] and wpa works? and it works with other aps of the same sort? [08:00] or different aps, i mean [08:01] yeah... atheros works for everything else. I have it running on WPA, WPA2, LEAP, EAP-FAST, PEAP, IEEE8021X and 11 other WEP networks === _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-41-177.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:01] I tried 6.06, 6.10, 7.04... I have no problem upgrading to gutsy if there is any benefit [08:01] from what I can tell it doesn't change wpa_supplicant, openssl, madwifi, etc [08:01] so it would handle WEP the same [08:02] gutsy is almost as feisty, it'll change tho [08:02] but is that a driver problem? [08:02] hmm === SeanTater_ [n=shannon@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:05] what version of madwifi do you have? === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.67] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:07] johnnybuoy: I tried madwifi-ng and madwifi-old and a recompiled version with patches from http://madwifi.org/ticket/1016 [08:08] Seveas: there is a typo in the entry message sent by ChanServ [08:08] newest madwifi i presume [08:09] johnnybuoy: yeah I guess. I have tried versions that come with kernel 2.6.15, 2.6.17, etc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:10] Adri2000, gracias [08:10] wow [08:10] that bug doesn't seem to be solved for 4 months [08:11] yeah, even worse the dev who posted the change just told me in #madwifi " Answer: Lots of people have been experiencing that issue. I've not tracked down the cause yet." [08:11] wellywell... [08:12] that sucks... [08:12] man.. [08:12] it just blows my mind that we made all these other protocols work and now we cnanot support simple wep [08:12] that is what we tell our customers we prefer [08:12] I just had one switch to wpa/leap and was happy [08:12] wpa is very nice [08:13] compared to wep [08:13] yeah but 2 years ago it was not supported and wpa_supplicant was unstable :/ [08:13] 2 years ago... === valehru [n=valehru@221.221.132.223] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald [n=ronald@hummelink.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:15] Answer: do you have your own consulting business or are you working for someone else (just curious) === deep [n=deep@c-a52a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:17] concept10: I work for someone else === Ronald [n=ronald@hummelink.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:18] Answer: do you guys have great success offering foss solutions? 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[09:28] Is there any resolution to "WEP key for wireless takes only uppercase" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/30596 [09:28] Launchpad bug 30596 in netcfg "WEP key for wireless takes only uppercase" [Medium,Unconfirmed] [09:29] I think this might be the same problem I am having === dannyj [n=danny@h100n3.gothnet.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shatrat [n=root@74-137-219-146.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === calavera [n=cal@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip70-185-168-242.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sdgreen [n=sdgreen@S0106000d88f15d27.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-250-189-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:51] whats the best way to find the differences between sid packages and additions added in gutsy? 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