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| wallyv_ | Hi all. I hope im in the right place. I wanted to get involved wiht ubuntu development, and the wiki pages are a little self contradicting. they talk about MOTU, core, etc. Where should I go to get started? | 01:46 |
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| TheMuso | wallyv_: If you are interested in packaging, #ubuntu-motu and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU are the places to go. | 01:47 |
| wallyv_ | Thanks. That is probably the best way to get started, ease into it. thank you | 01:48 |
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| micahcowan | Would somebody like to review my patch to gawk (bug 58256), for inclusion into gutsy? | 01:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 58256 in gawk "length() memory error " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58256 | 01:53 |
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| jdong | ok, I need to write an apology letter to Colin or send him a cake or something..... | 01:57 |
| jdong | I just totally hackjobbed all of casper | 01:58 |
| jdong | to make a all-from-RAM Ubuntu-ish distro :) | 01:58 |
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| jdong | in my defense casper toram did not work :) | 02:02 |
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| cjwatson | jdong: doesn't bother me, I only hack on casper when I need to, I don't actually maintain it ... | 02:41 |
| cjwatson | send cake to Tollef :) | 02:41 |
| jdong | cjwatson: lol, I will remember that :D | 02:42 |
| jdong | cjwatson: am I correct in interpreting that casper's default "copy to ram" functionality decompresses the squashfs to a tmpfs? | 02:43 |
| jdong | (and that it actually doesn't work in Feisty because nothing is setting ${TORAM} from /proc/cmdline...) | 02:43 |
| cjwatson | jdong: I committed a fix for that to bzr, but I didn't upload it because I still couldn't get it to work | 02:44 |
| jdong | cjwatson: ah, ok, I guess not a big deal, since the current toram method takes an obscene 2GB-ish RAM anyway... :( | 02:44 |
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| cjwatson | hmm, no, that was something else, sorry | 02:44 |
| cjwatson | yes, command-line option handling is missing from Ubuntu casper versus Debian casper | 02:45 |
| jdong | I had a 500MB squash, forcing TORAM=1 caused an OOM on a 1GB RAM machine | 02:45 |
| jdong | so I am guessing it actually copies everything from the squashfs to the tmpfs | 02:45 |
| cjwatson | I think Tollef had a hard time distinguishing sensible things they'd done to casper from things that were a bit less sensible, and some features they added went astray as a result | 02:45 |
| jdong | instead of just copying the squashfs image | 02:45 |
| cjwatson | that's how it appears from the code, but I really haven't looked at it long enough to work out what it should be doing | 02:46 |
| jdong | heh, IMO it's more sensible not to be decompressing the whole thing, especailly since we just unionfs it anyway :) | 02:46 |
| cjwatson | the TODISK stuff is, er, interesting | 02:47 |
| cjwatson | hello, ubiquity | 02:47 |
| jdong | lol :) | 02:47 |
| cjwatson | jdong: it's not entirely clear to me what it's trying to do in the first place | 02:47 |
| cjwatson | avoid seeks? | 02:47 |
| cjwatson | that would make TODISK make a little more sense I guess | 02:47 |
| jdong | cjwatson: from what I understand and observed, it's mounting the squashfs, and copying everything off it to a tmpfs | 02:48 |
| jdong | while what makes sense would be copying the squashfs file to a /tmpfs, then proceeding to boot. | 02:48 |
| jdong | (whichi s what I hackjobbed my casper to do) | 02:48 |
| cjwatson | mm, could be | 02:48 |
| cjwatson | talk to the Debian casper folks about it? it's their feature :) | 02:48 |
| jdong | ok :) | 02:48 |
| jmg | oh casper, the friendly ghost | 02:48 |
| cjwatson | the man page really doesn't go very far towards explaining the intent | 02:49 |
| jdong | well, the intent with ohter distros is for long-term livecd usage, it's faster from RAM | 02:49 |
| cjwatson | that does make sense | 02:49 |
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| jdong | and for me in this case, I want my system to be stateless and my laptop hard drive to spin down | 02:49 |
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| `23meg | cjwatson: are you sure this ubiquity bug is a duplicate? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/108107 | 02:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 108107 in ubiquity "Ubiquity should request confirmation before closing during instillation (dup-of: 107686)" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] | 02:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 107686 in ubiquity "Installation doesn't stop when clicking cancel" [High,Confirmed] | 02:56 |
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| cjwatson | `23meg: yes, even though they're superficially different. I've added a comment. | 03:06 |
| cjwatson | the close button is busted in too many places and needs somebody to go through both gtk and kde frontends making sure it does the right thing | 03:09 |
| `23meg | ah ok, thanks for the clarification | 03:09 |
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| backtick | Hi all (i hope i'm not asking in the wrong channel but this is a libc issue) .. calling getaddrinfo() fails on domains names (labels) starting/ending with a dash like http://-electra-.deviantart.com ...any idea why? I'm using fesity with stock packages (nothing compiled by hand)compiled by hand).. | 04:18 |
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| backtick | Mozilla (firefox) relies on this function for looking up domain names and so it fails on Ubuntu but works fine on Windows | 04:19 |
| mjg59 | backtick: It's illegal for a DNS name to start or end with a hyphen | 04:20 |
| mjg59 | See RFC1035, for instance | 04:21 |
| backtick | mjg59: it's not extactly illegal .. accodring to RFC 1034 it's not preferred http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/1034/12.htm | 04:21 |
| mjg59 | "The labels must follow the rules for ARPANET host names. They must | 04:22 |
| mjg59 | start with a letter, end with a letter or digit, and have as interior | 04:22 |
| mjg59 | characters only letters, digits, and hyphen." | 04:22 |
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| mjg59 | ie, they can't start with a hyphen or end with a hyphen | 04:23 |
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| backtick | mjg59: i understand but i think the library should be a little loose with specifications to handle those who don't adhere | 04:24 |
| mjg59 | backtick: Shrug. | 04:24 |
| mjg59 | There's an argument for that, but it's certainly not a bug that it doesn't work | 04:24 |
| backtick | I understand | 04:25 |
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| fabbione | morning | 05:22 |
| ajmitch | hi fabbione | 05:22 |
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| mdke | cjwatson: did you get anywhere with discussing the question of md5sum hashes? | 08:30 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:48 |
| pygi | hi dholbach | 08:49 |
| dholbach | hey pygi | 08:50 |
| geser | morning dholbach | 08:53 |
| dholbach | hey geser | 08:53 |
| dholbach | how's it going guys? | 08:54 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 09:00 |
| mdke | morning all | 09:00 |
| pygi | hi pitti and mdke | 09:01 |
| Burgundavia | morning pitti, mdke, pygi | 09:01 |
| pygi | and Burgundavia :) | 09:01 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 09:02 |
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| doko | hi pitti | 09:12 |
| doko | pitti: please approve python-defaults for feisty-proposed (reverting the change from yesterday, now that python2.5 is built on sparc) | 09:13 |
| pitti | doko: done | 09:14 |
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| siretart | morning folks! | 09:38 |
| pitti | hey siretart | 09:39 |
| siretart | oh, mjg59's membership in ubuntu-core-dev expired today | 09:39 |
| siretart | huhu pitti | 09:39 |
| pitti | geser: oh, why bother merging php4-* from Debian? We should rather remove them | 09:39 |
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| siretart | I remember reading some plans to drop apache1.x and php4 from debian/testing | 09:40 |
| pitti | yay, merges.u.c. is up to date | 09:43 |
| pitti | siretart: high time for that | 09:43 |
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| geser | pitti: that are packages providing a php4 and php5 module (although they are named php4-*) | 09:46 |
| sbalneav | elmo: Hey, is gobby.ubuntu.com around this time? | 09:46 |
| pitti | geser: ah, I see | 09:46 |
| sbalneav | pitti: Hey! How's it going? I'll owe you some beers here! | 09:47 |
| pitti | sbalneav: pretty good! hmm, beer :) | 09:48 |
| sbalneav | When do you arrive? | 09:48 |
| pitti | sbalneav: will you guys come to Sevilla? | 09:48 |
| sbalneav | I'm here now! | 09:48 |
| pitti | sbalneav: oh, great! | 09:48 |
| sbalneav | I'm at UES | 09:48 |
| pitti | sbalneav: tomorrow evening | 09:48 |
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| Amaranth | heh | 09:49 |
| Amaranth | i still haven't found someone who is arriving tomorrow afternoon | 09:50 |
| Amaranth | they're either already there or get there late at night | 09:50 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: I am ariving tomorrow afternoon | 09:50 |
| Amaranth | Treenaks: when? | 09:50 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: plane lands at 17:00 | 09:50 |
| Amaranth | err, that's evening to me :P | 09:50 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: it's not late at night ;) | 09:50 |
| Amaranth | heh | 09:50 |
| Treenaks | (I hope..) | 09:51 |
| Amaranth | i meant more like 1300-1400 | 09:51 |
| Treenaks | I'm probably in Madrid then :) | 09:51 |
| Treenaks | or somewhere high above France/Spain | 09:51 |
| manchicken | Anybody gonna be at San Pablo at 1300 on Saturday (localtime)? | 09:52 |
| manchicken | I'm looking to share a cab. | 09:52 |
| Amaranth | haha | 09:52 |
| Amaranth | so am i | 09:52 |
| Amaranth | and my plane lands at 1255 iirc | 09:52 |
| Amaranth | are you on the same flight? | 09:53 |
| Burgundavia | anybody arriving around 11pm on the 5th? | 09:53 |
| Amaranth | Burgundavia: I think PriceChild said that's about when he gets there | 09:54 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: Mine too. | 09:54 |
| Amaranth | manchicken: PM? | 09:54 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 09:54 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: American airlines from Chicago? | 09:54 |
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| Amaranth | manchicken: no, from atlanta | 09:54 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: Yeah, mine arrives at 12:55PM local time on the 5th. | 09:54 |
| Amaranth | well, omaha to atlanta to madrid to sevilla | 09:54 |
| manchicken | I've got Champaign, IL to Chicago, IL, to Madrid, to Sevilla. | 09:55 |
| Treenaks | AMS->MAD->SVQ | 09:55 |
| manchicken | I leave tomorrow at 12:40 localtime, I arrive at 12:55 on Saturday localtime. | 09:55 |
| manchicken | My body is going to be so confused. | 09:55 |
| Amaranth | manchicken: you must be in the same tiny little plane as me :) | 09:55 |
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| Amaranth | my computer is already set to localtime there | 09:55 |
| Amaranth | and i was roughly sleeping those hours already because of work so... :) | 09:56 |
| Treenaks | manchicken: I did something like that to Montreal :) | 09:56 |
| Treenaks | manchicken: (and back) | 09:56 |
| Amaranth | i leave today (dude it's after midnight :) at 1353 | 09:56 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: Ooh, yeah. | 09:57 |
| manchicken | That makes sense. | 09:57 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: I'll be wearing a blue button up shirt with Marlins on it. I'm the fat white geek with a doubleclick backpack and a small green suitcase. We should totally share a cab. | 09:57 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 09:57 |
| Amaranth | look for the ogre wearing a "No I will not fix your computer" shirt | 09:58 |
| manchicken | https://launchpad.net/~manchicken | 09:58 |
| Amaranth | will be hard to miss me, really | 09:58 |
| manchicken | Oh yeah? | 09:58 |
| Amaranth | 6'7" | 09:59 |
| manchicken | Nice. | 09:59 |
| Amaranth | so...yeah :) | 09:59 |
| manchicken | It'll be nice not to be the only American. | 09:59 |
| manchicken | I mean, you use GNOME, but I won't hold it against you ;) | 09:59 |
| manchicken | I promise. | 09:59 |
| Amaranth | You don't? We must do battle. | 09:59 |
| manchicken | KDE ftw | 09:59 |
| manchicken | I'm a big-time kubuntuer. | 09:59 |
| manchicken | I did lots of work on adept for feisty. | 10:00 |
| Amaranth | i spent my feisty time trying to make compiz not suck | 10:00 |
| Amaranth | and that's the main goal for gutsy too so obviously something went wrong there | 10:00 |
| manchicken | I'm sorry to hear that :) | 10:00 |
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| manchicken | As do I. | 10:01 |
| Amaranth | whoa, wtf | 10:01 |
| === Amaranth tests again | ||
| Amaranth | xchat-gnome suddenly started making actions show a different color | 10:01 |
| manchicken | I hear compiz doesn't have binary blobs embedded in its source. | 10:01 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: ah! YOU didn't unbreak compiz + sloppy focus ;) | 10:01 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: Variety is the spice of life. It's a feature, not a bug. | 10:01 |
| Amaranth | You mean compiled cg shaders? :) | 10:02 |
| manchicken | UDS is gonna be sweet. | 10:03 |
| Amaranth | Treenaks: I blame your mouse driver | 10:03 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: You got a lp page? | 10:03 |
| manchicken | Amaranth: I blame your limo driver. | 10:03 |
| Amaranth | http://launchpad.net/~amaranth but it's pretty worthless | 10:03 |
| manchicken | Oh, so you look like buttercup. I'll just look for buttercup then and we'll be set. | 10:04 |
| Amaranth | hahaha | 10:04 |
| manchicken | Wow, my karma is only like 67 | 10:04 |
| Amaranth | kassetra from the forums made that for me | 10:04 |
| Amaranth | it's got a python, get it? :) | 10:04 |
| manchicken | It's probably because I don't really use the bug tracker :) | 10:04 |
| manchicken | Nice. | 10:04 |
| Treenaks | manchicken: http://www.jambav.com/jambav/blogs/media/buttercup.JPG ? | 10:04 |
| manchicken | Except that I loathe python :) | 10:04 |
| Amaranth | i have karma? | 10:05 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: yes.. 1257 of it | 10:05 |
| Amaranth | interesting | 10:05 |
| Amaranth | and wow how does launchpad know about my involvement with libwnck? | 10:06 |
| manchicken | That buttercup. What a bombshell. | 10:06 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: by parsing commit logs? | 10:06 |
| Amaranth | oh, right, it's reading gnome's bugzilla | 10:06 |
| Amaranth | no no, i don't have any commits to libwnck | 10:06 |
| Amaranth | i did some work on the patches for libwnck to make it work better with compiz | 10:07 |
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| seb128 | Amaranth: I think it's simpler than that you did comment on some launchpad libwnck bugs | 10:10 |
| Amaranth | seb128: but it has me listed as being involved upstream | 10:10 |
| pitti | iwj: I'm TIL for dpkg; however, can I bribe you to do the merge? | 10:10 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: maybe you opened some upstream tasks | 10:10 |
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| asac | pitti: tbird would like to get some binary NEW care :) | 10:33 |
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| pitti | asac: done | 10:40 |
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| pitti | doko: can I leave the zope3 merge to you? | 10:43 |
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| doko | pitti: sure | 10:46 |
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| mvo_ | pitti: do you think that its worth to register a spec for sevilla for the sru-verification process? we could talk about improving the process by getting more members into the sru-verification team and what to do with stuff were verficiation is HW dependant | 11:26 |
| pitti | mvo_: sounds good | 11:27 |
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| Kmos | php 5.2.2 is out =) | 11:41 |
| Kmos | http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.2.2 | 11:41 |
| iwj | pitti: Yes. | 11:41 |
| iwj | pitti: (re dpkg merge, I mean) | 11:41 |
| pitti | iwj: thanks | 11:42 |
| iwj | But not right now as I'm leaving in 5 mins or so ... | 11:42 |
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| pitti | iwj: yes, no hurry, I was just checking my merges.u.c. list | 11:43 |
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| ogra | seb128, evo is crashy for me on html mails ... do you know anything about that ? | 11:48 |
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| iwj | See people in Spain! | 11:53 |
| ogra | enjoy the train ride :) | 11:53 |
| jsgotangco | ole! | 11:56 |
| seb128 | ogra: every time? Can you get a backtrace? | 11:59 |
| seb128 | ogra: I got some crashes but when I restart it the same mail is opened correctly | 11:59 |
| ogra | seb128, i'm just upgraing the system and hope it goes away, there were some libs and gnome stuff | 11:59 |
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| ogra | right | 11:59 |
| ogra | same hapens here | 11:59 |
| ogra | *happens | 11:59 |
| ogra | i noticed its only html apparently | 11:59 |
| mvo_ | pitti: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/sru-verification (I added you and brian and myself) | 12:02 |
| seb128 | that doesn't really look like worth a spec | 12:03 |
| mvo_ | seb128: well, the current process does not scale, it needs to be improved | 12:04 |
| seb128 | mvo_: right, but it looks like rather an organisational problem to discuss than something that need to be speced | 12:06 |
| mvo_ | seb128: is there is another way to allocate some discussion time then to add a spec and propose it to sevilla? | 12:07 |
| seb128 | mvo_: no idea | 12:07 |
| pitti | mvo_: no, I don't think so | 12:08 |
| mvo_ | seb128: otherwise I agree, if there would be another way | 12:09 |
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| tepsipakki | topic is a bit outdated, s/DeveloperResources/UbuntuDevelopment/ ? | 12:19 |
| tepsipakki | although there is a redirect | 12:19 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:pitti] : Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Gutsy open, go ape! | ||
| pitti | tepsipakki: right, thanks for spotting | 12:24 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: cool, np | 12:24 |
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| ogra | seb128, upgrade didnt fix it :/ i'll try to get a BT tonight if i have some spare time | 12:44 |
| seb128 | ogra: that's not like getting a backtrace takes a lot of time | 12:45 |
| seb128 | does it segfault or complain about a non existant symbol or something? | 12:45 |
| seb128 | might the spellchecker changes that broke firefox also or something | 12:45 |
| seb128 | else | 12:45 |
| ogra | hmm | 12:48 |
| ogra | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 12:49 |
| ogra | [Switching to Thread -1233013056 (LWP 20621)] | 12:49 |
| ogra | 0xb7a6d93f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.14.so.19 | 12:49 |
| ogra | thats what gdb gives me ... i need the -dbg package for more details | 12:50 |
| ogra | (bt only lists the lib again, nothing more) | 12:50 |
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| stittel | Hi! Where can I find the current state of work on the Pidgin package for Gutsy? I can't find anything on Launchpad or Bazaar or packages.ubuntu.com or anywhere. | 02:03 |
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| pitti | doko: do you have an idea about the r-base FTBFS? looks toolchainish | 02:14 |
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| doko | pitti: hrm, wrong .so symlink, so it finds the static lib (which works on i386). will fix | 02:17 |
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| === pitti hugs doko, thank you | ||
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| cypherbios | mvo_: can I do something like this *apt-get install --reinstall -d `cat packages.list`* with Synaptic by with a single command-line call method? Where packages.list contains the list of packages I want to download. | 02:40 |
| mvo_ | cypherbios: not currently, I can add something like to for you if you need it for aptoncd | 02:40 |
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| cypherbios | mvo_: Great! It would be very very nice. Please :) | 02:41 |
| cypherbios | mvo_: did you read my email about this? there are a more details about | 02:42 |
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| mvo_ | cypherbios: when did you send it? I don't rember from the top of my head | 02:43 |
| cypherbios | mvo_: Apr, 28 - 6 days ago | 02:43 |
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| cypherbios | mvo_: the subject was 'synaptic/apt/dpkg behavior', not much intuitive indeed :) | 02:44 |
| mvo_ | cypherbios: right, I have it here. I will answer on my trip to the ubuntu conference | 02:44 |
| mvo_ | cypherbios: sorry that it took so long | 02:44 |
| cypherbios | mvo_: don't worry, thank you anyway | 02:45 |
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| Hobbsee | HI ALL!!! | 02:46 |
| === Hobbsee waves from the hotel | ||
| pitti | hey Hobbsee! welcome | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: where are you? | 02:49 |
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| pitti | Hobbsee: still in my cozy home, I will start tomorrow noon :) | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: awww :( | 02:51 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: still a normal workday today | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: pity. i kinda figured as much | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | it seems that the rooms are are together, which si good | 02:51 |
| Treenaks | pitti: hey, me too :) | 02:52 |
| Treenaks | pitti: 12:00 flight from Amsterdam to Madrid, then on to Sevilla (Iberia) | 02:53 |
| pitti | Treenaks: ah, Dresden - Munich - Barcelona - Sevilla for me, arrival 2015 | 02:54 |
| Simira | Hobbsee: how's Spain? Who are you sharing room with? | 02:54 |
| Treenaks | pitti: I arrive at 1700 | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: elkbuntu | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: just got here | 02:55 |
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| seb128 | pitti: looks like I'm not the only one who had difficulties to find a decent flight | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: had lots of fun with metal screening...ugh. | 02:55 |
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| pitti | seb128: gosh, it takes longer to get there than to Montreal | 02:55 |
| seb128 | right | 02:56 |
| Simira | I believe Tollef uses something like 9 hrs | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | lucky | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | 26.5 here | 02:57 |
| Treenaks | Hobbsee: ouch | 02:57 |
| Treenaks | 5 for me.. | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | Treenaks: uh, yeah | 02:57 |
| Simira | but Hobbsee is like on the other side of the world from the start... | 02:58 |
| Treenaks | Simira: true.. | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: i'm too damned far away | 02:58 |
| === Treenaks is going to have so much fun creating more 'Hello, I use ubuntu' videos ;) | ||
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| Treenaks | too bad I can't make it to ubucon tomorrow | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | we found a suspicious person with a ubuntu sticker on his lapotp at the airport too | 03:00 |
| Treenaks | Hobbsee: With a weird African accent? | 03:01 |
| Treenaks | South+ | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | Treenaks: nah. racarr | 03:02 |
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| broonie | pitti: (or anyone) Could someone talk me through how I'm supposed to propose a fix for SRU please? | 03:43 |
| broonie | I thought I'd followed the procedure but apparently I'd made a mess of it. | 03:43 |
| pitti | broonie: oh, it wasn't that messy | 03:44 |
| pitti | broonie: just check the status in gutsy (the default task), create a dapper task, and write a rationale for an SRU | 03:44 |
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| broonie | I can't see any interface allowing me to create tasks. | 03:45 |
| jdong | pitti: speaking of SRU, anything I can do to make you more comfortable of the KTorrent SRU? | 03:45 |
| StevenK | broonie: Target to release... | 03:45 |
| jdong | :) | 03:45 |
| broonie | On the bug page? I can see "Nominate for release" but that's it. | 03:45 |
| StevenK | Yeah, that's it. | 03:46 |
| StevenK | Then someone in -qa (?) will have to approve it. | 03:46 |
| broonie | I did that AFAICT (it says "Nominated for Dapper" on the bug). | 03:46 |
| StevenK | Throw me the bug number, and I'll approve it. | 03:46 |
| broonie | 47815. I think I also need to pull all the info in the bug into a single comment for the formal proposal from what pitti said. | 03:47 |
| pitti | broonie: 'Target fix to release...' in the left menu | 03:47 |
| StevenK | bug 47815 | 03:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 47815 in nis "/usr/lib/yp/ypxfr produces segmentation fault" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47815 | 03:47 |
| === StevenK is lazy. :-) | ||
| broonie | pitti: I can't see that option? | 03:47 |
| StevenK | broonie: Does it only affect Dapper? | 03:47 |
| StevenK | broonie: Dapper approved. | 03:48 |
| pitti | broonie: I approved your proposal for dapper | 03:48 |
| broonie | Yes. The code is misoptimised by the compiler; the "fix" is to disable optimisation for the relevant file. | 03:48 |
| broonie | Thanks. | 03:49 |
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| StevenK | So I shouldn't need to add a target for any release after Dapper? Okay. | 03:49 |
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| elmo | Seveas: ping | 03:49 |
| jdong | stopid network connection | 03:49 |
| StevenK | elmo: What is that, an auto-ping? :-P | 03:49 |
| elmo | StevenK: no | 03:50 |
| Seveas | elmo, pong | 03:50 |
| elmo | Seveas: who do I contact about making sure freenode don't k-line the conference IP as clonebots | 03:51 |
| elmo | +? | 03:51 |
| Seveas | elmo, BearPerson, nalioth, christel or other senior freenode staffers | 03:52 |
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| Seveas | RichiH has an idle time of 3 minutes, he should be around | 03:53 |
| elmo | Seveas: thanks, talking to nalioth now | 03:54 |
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| StevenK | Oh, twitch. | 03:57 |
| StevenK | /dev/mapper/system-var 9.9G 9.4G 0 100% /var | 03:57 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:19 |
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| pirast | keescook, what about the asterisk security upload? my debdiffs are available for 5 days now :( please have a look at them and upload if they are okay | 04:22 |
| jdong | pitti: heh bug 112346 has just been filed against the only KTorrent crash fixed in the SRU that's not reported | 04:24 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 112346 in ktorrent "[apport] ktorrent crashed with signal 7 in memcpy()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112346 | 04:24 |
| jdong | so please consider the SRU :( | 04:24 |
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| pitti | jdong: heh | 04:25 |
| pitti | jdong: ok, let me dig though that mega-patch again | 04:25 |
| jdong | sorry about it :(, I don't want it to be that huge either | 04:25 |
| pitti | jdong: I just got suspicious when I saw a patch changing a set into a list and such | 04:27 |
| jdong | pitti: understood; apparently it was necessary to fix a memory corruption issue | 04:27 |
| jdong | or at least that's the way upstream decided to do it | 04:27 |
| jdong | as I've said before, I am a heavy KTorrent user and I have confidence these patches don't introduce any regressions | 04:28 |
| pitti | jdong: and this bit still looks wrong: | 04:28 |
| pitti | +- if (ab->isFinished()) | 04:28 |
| pitti | ++ if (!ab || ab->isFinished()) | 04:28 |
| pitti | + { | 04:28 |
| pitti | + ab->deleteLater(); | 04:28 |
| pitti | jdong: i. e. if ab == NULL, the ->deleteLater() will still crash | 04:28 |
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| jdong | pitti: hmm, interesting.... I'll ask upstream.... | 04:30 |
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| jdong | pitti: is there anything else that looks particularly concerning? | 04:34 |
| pitti | jdong: still digging through; I don't understand kubuntu_06_svn634843_retransmit_timeout.patch, the rest looks good so far | 04:34 |
| jdong | pitti: apparently timeouts weren't being handled correctly before, and KTorrent wouldn't respond to retransmit requests, which causes other torrent clients to flag KTorrent as "evil" | 04:37 |
| pitti | ah, thanks | 04:37 |
| pitti | jdong: ok, I'm through; I made some comments in the bug | 04:38 |
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| jdong | pitti: thanks for the review; I will work on addressing your concerns | 04:39 |
| pitti | jdong: thank you! | 04:39 |
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| `23meg | !logs | 05:00 |
| ubotu | Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | 05:00 |
| Solarion | I have finally traced the source of my network-manager troubles | 05:00 |
| Solarion | apparently my university is using Cisco wireless APs which are outputting Cisco-proprietary cap information (wme_ie instead of the standard rsn_ie or wpa_ie). | 05:01 |
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| cbx33 | hey guys, anyone managed to use inotify with python in feisty? | 05:17 |
| cbx33 | i though inotify was a signal callback type system....but from the docs it looks like you have to poll it? | 05:17 |
| cbx33 | am i stupid? | 05:17 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: no, you are not | 05:17 |
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| cbx33 | highvoltage, so I'm right? | 05:18 |
| cbx33 | and as per the examples | 05:18 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: I don't know. I just answered on the last question. | 05:18 |
| cbx33 | from pyinotify.pyinotify import (ProcessEvent, SimpleINotify, EventCodes, ) | 05:18 |
| cbx33 | doesn't work | 05:18 |
| cbx33 | says ther are no modules called ProcessEvent | 05:18 |
| cbx33 | thanks highvoltage ;) | 05:19 |
| cbx33 | from pyinotify import (ProcessEvent, SimpleINotify, EventCodes, ) | 05:19 |
| cbx33 | sorry | 05:19 |
| cbx33 | the above doesn't work either | 05:19 |
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| cbx33 | i think pyinotify is broken | 05:23 |
| Chipzz | cbx33: you don't need the parentheses | 05:25 |
| Chipzz | (I think) | 05:25 |
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| cbx33 | hehe | 05:26 |
| cbx33 | I'm digging deeper | 05:26 |
| ogra | apt-get install python-pyinotify-doc ?? | 05:26 |
| ogra | ;) | 05:26 |
| Chipzz | cbx33: class EventsCodes(object): | 05:28 |
| Chipzz | note the s | 05:28 |
| cbx33 | yes i just modified that | 05:30 |
| cbx33 | ogra, have you got it working | 05:30 |
| ogra | no | 05:30 |
| cbx33 | in the end i had to modify one of the shared files | 05:30 |
| cbx33 | which had import inotify | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | it had to be import _inotify | 05:31 |
| ogra | i just pointed out that there is an extensive amount of documentation packaged ;) | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | yes the docs are good | 05:31 |
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| cbx33 | however, I have just come up against another problem | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | File "./inotify.py", line 11, in check | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | ino.process_events() | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/pyinotify/pyinotify.py", line 650, in process_events | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | proc_fun(e) | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable | 05:31 |
| cbx33 | it works fine until there is actually a change to take care of | 05:32 |
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| cbx33 | hmm | 05:34 |
| cbx33 | got it working | 05:34 |
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| cbx33 | :( i thought inotify was signal callback :( | 05:34 |
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| cbx33 | plus it's broken :( | 05:34 |
| Seveas | cbx33, _inotify is the low level interface, try the things in the inotify module | 05:35 |
| cbx33 | Seveas, well the problem is | 05:35 |
| cbx33 | the pyinotify.py file imports some things from inotify.py that don't exist | 05:36 |
| cbx33 | however they do exist in _inotify.so | 05:36 |
| cbx33 | so now that I've edited the pyinotify.py file it works | 05:36 |
| cbx33 | Seveas, i pinged you yesterday....how is falcon coming along for feisty? | 05:37 |
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| Seveas | cbx33, I have it running on feisty | 05:37 |
| Seveas | should check what I had to fix and bake a proper package | 05:38 |
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| cbx33 | well I'd be interested in it | 05:38 |
| cbx33 | i need to update my repo for VCSFrenzy | 05:38 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all, hi Seveas | 05:39 |
| Seveas | hi Hobbsee | 05:39 |
| Seveas | cbx33, pm | 05:40 |
| Seveas | Hobbsee, is elky awake? | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | Seveas: sure, she's playing with the tv | 05:41 |
| Seveas | heh | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | Seveas: did you want me to pass on a message? | 05:41 |
| Seveas | yeah, "prepare for swimming" :) | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | actually, she's about to login, it looks like - she's just asked me about the password to login | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | hahahhahaa | 05:41 |
| === Hobbsee passes the message on | ||
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| Seveas | It's swimbuntu! | 05:42 |
| === Hobbsee thinks not | ||
| Hobbsee | it's not warm enough to swim! | 05:42 |
| Seveas | what's the temp. in sevilla? | 05:42 |
| === Hobbsee ponders what the splash screen would look like... | ||
| Hobbsee | 20C or so? | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | give or take? | 05:42 |
| pitti | infinity: can you please give-back javacc? it works fine in a current pbuilder, maybe some build dep like ant was out of date | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | i've seen that many airports today that i dont remember which temperature was which | 05:43 |
| Seveas | weather applet says 20 | 05:43 |
| === Solarion wishes networkmanager would remember that either the network information better | ||
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| === jdong wishes network-manager-gnome had a less hidden method of "forgetting" networks | ||
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| === jdong also wishes for a blackbook core 2 duo with 2GB RAM | ||
| jdong | and world peace | 05:46 |
| elkbuntu | ha | 05:46 |
| elkbuntu | you cant throw us in if you're not here | 05:46 |
| jdong | :) | 05:46 |
| Seveas | elkbuntu, I'll arrive there in about 31 hours | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | right, so we're safe until....*calculates* | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | jdong, sounds like a beast of a machine | 05:47 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, midnight tomorrow | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | fun | 05:48 |
| Seveas | elkbuntu, evrn longer | 05:48 |
| Seveas | plane lands at 00:20 | 05:48 |
| elkbuntu | oh? | 05:48 |
| jdong | cbx33: certainly does :), looks sexy too | 05:48 |
| elkbuntu | ah, i thought it was like just before midnight | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | got a link? | 05:49 |
| jdong | cbx33: apple.com/store? :) | 05:49 |
| jdong | the one I priced out was like 1400 with student discounts | 05:49 |
| jdong | which I found reasonable for a system with that specs and that size factor | 05:49 |
| cbx33 | heh | 05:51 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 05:51 |
| cbx33 | back later guys | 05:51 |
| jdong | yeah, good luck on yor notify stuff :) | 05:51 |
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| pochu | any core-dev can review a one-line change which fixes bug 112384? :) | 06:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 112384 in liferea "Liferea doesn't work anymore due to the latest firefox upload (2.0.0.3+3-0ubuntu1)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112384 | 06:33 |
| pochu | there's a debdiff in the report | 06:34 |
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| infinity | pitti: Done. | 08:02 |
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| jdong | pitti: *grumble grumble* Ktorrent upstream fixed it in their development branch but not their stable one; I will backport the new patch and update the SRU accordingly | 08:14 |
| pitti | infinity: thank you! | 08:14 |
| pitti | jdong: hm, I figure the fix for that NULL deref shouldn't be that intrusive? | 08:15 |
| jdong | pitti: nope, but KT upstream loves to bundle such fixes in svn commits with lots of other random crap too | 08:17 |
| jdong | no worries, I shall fix :) | 08:17 |
| pitti | jdong: yay; wasn't that what VCS were built for to avoid? :-/ | 08:17 |
| jdong | pitti: well.. it's better than like 5 months ago when their changelog for a 200-line commit was "Fixed a problem" | 08:18 |
| jdong | :D | 08:18 |
| pitti | lol | 08:18 |
| broonie | jdong: My favourite is "New version" | 08:18 |
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| tepsipakki | can anyone tell me why the x-x-v-ati driver has Conflicts/Replaces/Provides for atimisc/r128/radeon, right from the start when it has been packaged. None of those packages have been in Debian/Ubuntu, so those can probably be dropped from the driver? | 08:18 |
| broonie | For any commit of any size. | 08:19 |
| Treenaks | broonie: 'changed a few things' | 08:19 |
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| jdong | broonie: they'd release like 2.0.1 and their changelog to 2.0.0 was "Features and bugfixes"... and we're combing thru like 1000-line debdiffs UVF season. | 08:19 |
| broonie | Sounds entirely famililar. The guy I'm thinking of just used the same commit message for all commits, each of which could have random numbers of different things going on it. | 08:20 |
| jdong | :) | 08:21 |
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| afflux_ | I can't build a gutsy pbuilder on feisty due to a missing file (E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy) | 08:39 |
| afflux_ | any ideas for a workaround? I'd like to have a pbuilder for gutsy without using gutsy ;) | 08:40 |
| pochu | afflux_: install debootstrap from gutsy | 08:47 |
| afflux_ | would that mean I get a chroot (but not a pbuilder?) | 08:49 |
| jdong | no | 08:49 |
| jdong | pbuilder uses debootstrap to build the base.tgz | 08:49 |
| jdong | (and a pbuilder is a special form of a chroot) | 08:50 |
| afflux_ | ah.. so I should download debootstrap from gutsy and install it in my feisty? | 08:50 |
| jdong | yeah, I think that should work | 08:50 |
| jdong | debootstrap is all non-binary scripts anyway, it should be safe to do | 08:51 |
| afflux_ | okay, I'll have a try | 08:51 |
| jdong | I should backport debootstrap | 08:51 |
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| afflux | looks good, thank you both | 08:55 |
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| psusi | I can't debootstrap gutsy either because some package fails to install | 09:14 |
| bashelier | psusi: could you please past the errors you get ? :) | 09:16 |
| bashelier | we can't help you if you don't ;) | 09:16 |
| psusi | trying it again and will do so in a second | 09:16 |
| psusi | it's fetching packages now... | 09:16 |
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| psusi | how do you like that? today bootstrapping gutsy works | 09:29 |
| bashelier | psusi: ^^ | 09:30 |
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| psusi | guess it's been fixed... I think it was choking on tzdata before | 09:32 |
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| pirast | keescook, hi | 10:10 |
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| Tincho | hi. anybody knows if kyle mcmartin is usually found on irc? | 11:11 |
| Lure | Tincho: it is, here or in #ubuntu-kernel, but he is probably travelling to uds-sevilla | 11:13 |
| Tincho | Lure: ah, ok. will mail him then | 11:14 |
| Tincho | thanks | 11:14 |
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| psusi | can anyone sponsor an upload for me? I have attached a debdiff to bug #110335 | 11:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 110335 in wxwidgets2.6 "index.html is a dangling symlink" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110335 | 11:36 |
| jdong | psusi: aren't you supposed to be subscribing u-u-s and crap ;-) | 11:36 |
| psusi | eh? | 11:36 |
| jdong | psusi: subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 11:37 |
| jdong | that's apparently the "correct" way to be begging for sponsors ;-) | 11:37 |
| psusi | ohhh... right... wait a second... let me see, this package may not be in universe ;) | 11:37 |
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| jdong | ubuntu-main-sponsors :) | 11:37 |
| psusi | ohh, yea.. it is universe... ok, cool | 11:38 |
| jdong | I usually start poking like a week after no response :D | 11:38 |
| psusi | fortunately, it's a single line patch that just removes an extranious '-' in the file name ;) | 11:39 |
| psusi | shouldn't take long to review... hehe | 11:39 |
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| psusi | man I can't wait for dpkg triggers to get here | 11:40 |
| psusi | it sucks big floppy donkey dong to see the initramfs, font caches, etc all being rebuild 300 times during a dist-upgrade | 11:40 |
| jdong | 17:40 < psusi> it sucks big floppy donkey dong to see the initramfs, font | 11:41 |
| jdong | NO. COMMENT. | 11:41 |
| jdong | :D | 11:41 |
| psusi | hehe | 11:42 |
| psusi | incidentally I also like that phrase because it contains the word floppy... and floppy drives suck big floppy donkey dong... wrote a driver for them once for ReactOS | 11:43 |
| jdong | LOL | 11:43 |
| psusi | writing a driver REALLY makes you appreciate just how bad they suck | 11:43 |
| jdong | lol | 11:44 |
| jdong | I tore all mine apart | 11:44 |
| jdong | nice servos | 11:44 |
| jdong | good for other projects | 11:44 |
| psusi | ok now, what the hell? I swear to god I wrote a bug email to debian's bts a little bit ago, but I have not had a reply and it isn't in my sent mail folder | 11:45 |
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| Kmos | cjwatson: can you confirm if this one is on gutsy kernel yet ?! bug 106622 | 12:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 106622 in linux-source-2.6.20 "linux-image-2.6.20-15 fails to properly detect and configure EMS USB-II" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106622 | 12:00 |
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| desrt | anyone getting to sevilla airport around midnight on the 5/6th want to share a cab? :) | 12:04 |
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