=== dmk [n=dmk@host81-157-55-86.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@121.44.221.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [i=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-39-79.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ is now known as azeem === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@1-169.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wallyv_ [n=wally@71.194.52.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] Hi all. I hope im in the right place. I wanted to get involved wiht ubuntu development, and the wiki pages are a little self contradicting. they talk about MOTU, core, etc. Where should I go to get started? [01:47] wallyv_: If you are interested in packaging, #ubuntu-motu and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU are the places to go. [01:48] Thanks. That is probably the best way to get started, ease into it. thank you === wallyv_ [n=wally@71.194.52.21] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [01:53] Would somebody like to review my patch to gawk (bug 58256), for inclusion into gutsy? [01:53] Launchpad bug 58256 in gawk "length() memory error " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58256 === Gerrath [n=Gerrath_@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:57] ok, I need to write an apology letter to Colin or send him a cake or something..... [01:58] I just totally hackjobbed all of casper [01:58] to make a all-from-RAM Ubuntu-ish distro :) === yosch [n=yosch@d223-34.RES.UMontreal.CA] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:02] in my defense casper toram did not work :) === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === antonym55 [n=antony@58.61.66.92] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-218-185-9-170.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:41] jdong: doesn't bother me, I only hack on casper when I need to, I don't actually maintain it ... [02:41] send cake to Tollef :) [02:42] cjwatson: lol, I will remember that :D [02:43] cjwatson: am I correct in interpreting that casper's default "copy to ram" functionality decompresses the squashfs to a tmpfs? [02:43] (and that it actually doesn't work in Feisty because nothing is setting ${TORAM} from /proc/cmdline...) [02:44] jdong: I committed a fix for that to bzr, but I didn't upload it because I still couldn't get it to work [02:44] cjwatson: ah, ok, I guess not a big deal, since the current toram method takes an obscene 2GB-ish RAM anyway... :( === Sleepy_Coder must go now. :p [02:44] hmm, no, that was something else, sorry [02:45] yes, command-line option handling is missing from Ubuntu casper versus Debian casper [02:45] I had a 500MB squash, forcing TORAM=1 caused an OOM on a 1GB RAM machine [02:45] so I am guessing it actually copies everything from the squashfs to the tmpfs [02:45] I think Tollef had a hard time distinguishing sensible things they'd done to casper from things that were a bit less sensible, and some features they added went astray as a result [02:45] instead of just copying the squashfs image [02:46] that's how it appears from the code, but I really haven't looked at it long enough to work out what it should be doing [02:46] heh, IMO it's more sensible not to be decompressing the whole thing, especailly since we just unionfs it anyway :) [02:47] the TODISK stuff is, er, interesting [02:47] hello, ubiquity [02:47] lol :) [02:47] jdong: it's not entirely clear to me what it's trying to do in the first place [02:47] avoid seeks? [02:47] that would make TODISK make a little more sense I guess [02:48] cjwatson: from what I understand and observed, it's mounting the squashfs, and copying everything off it to a tmpfs [02:48] while what makes sense would be copying the squashfs file to a /tmpfs, then proceeding to boot. [02:48] (whichi s what I hackjobbed my casper to do) [02:48] mm, could be [02:48] talk to the Debian casper folks about it? it's their feature :) [02:48] ok :) [02:48] oh casper, the friendly ghost [02:49] the man page really doesn't go very far towards explaining the intent [02:49] well, the intent with ohter distros is for long-term livecd usage, it's faster from RAM [02:49] that does make sense === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] and for me in this case, I want my system to be stateless and my laptop hard drive to spin down === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:56] <`23meg> cjwatson: are you sure this ubiquity bug is a duplicate? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/108107 [02:56] Launchpad bug 108107 in ubiquity "Ubiquity should request confirmation before closing during instillation (dup-of: 107686)" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] [02:56] Launchpad bug 107686 in ubiquity "Installation doesn't stop when clicking cancel" [High,Confirmed] === jbull [n=jonah@c-75-72-214-125.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Flannel [n=flannel@cpe-76-176-22-229.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jbull [n=jonah@c-75-72-214-125.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Flannel [n=flannel@cpe-76-176-22-229.san.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:06] `23meg: yes, even though they're superficially different. I've added a comment. [03:09] the close button is busted in too many places and needs somebody to go through both gtk and kde frontends making sure it does the right thing [03:09] <`23meg> ah ok, thanks for the clarification === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=jack@p508DC392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=jack@p508DC392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === UbuntuStats [n=IRCStats@213.13.241.134] has joined #ubuntu-devel === statik [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [n=ccheney@cpe-24-162-49-93.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === backtick [n=backtick@41.196.162.40] has joined #ubuntu-devel === backtick [n=backtick@41.196.162.40] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajslater [n=aj@netblock-66-159-226-33.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:18] Hi all (i hope i'm not asking in the wrong channel but this is a libc issue) .. calling getaddrinfo() fails on domains names (labels) starting/ending with a dash like http://-electra-.deviantart.com ...any idea why? I'm using fesity with stock packages (nothing compiled by hand)compiled by hand).. === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:19] Mozilla (firefox) relies on this function for looking up domain names and so it fails on Ubuntu but works fine on Windows [04:20] backtick: It's illegal for a DNS name to start or end with a hyphen [04:21] See RFC1035, for instance [04:21] mjg59: it's not extactly illegal .. accodring to RFC 1034 it's not preferred http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/1034/12.htm [04:22] "The labels must follow the rules for ARPANET host names. They must [04:22] start with a letter, end with a letter or digit, and have as interior [04:22] characters only letters, digits, and hyphen." === ajslater [n=aj@netblock-66-159-226-33.dslextreme.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:23] ie, they can't start with a hyphen or end with a hyphen === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:24] mjg59: i understand but i think the library should be a little loose with specifications to handle those who don't adhere [04:24] backtick: Shrug. [04:24] There's an argument for that, but it's certainly not a bug that it doesn't work [04:25] I understand === stittel [n=tittel@dslb-084-061-038-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-c0ddd04b32f8e102] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@adsl-222-54-189.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-116.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stratus [n=stratus@201.53.55.52] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:22] morning [05:22] hi fabbione === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-ce3642caeb80315d] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-9db5d2ee48599a40] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB_ [n=tomb@host81-153-32-119.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gerrath [n=Gerrath_@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn [i=pbn@r00ted.geekshells.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alan__ [n=ubuntu@c-24-21-237-223.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione_ [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-7df4b23acea7d944] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsk [i=dsk@gateway/tor/x-6d22f69e4ed205bc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione_ [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@33-78.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione_ [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alan__ [n=ubuntu@c-24-21-237-223.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=jack@p508DC392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@dynadsl-080-228-80-065.ewetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@host-84-221-58-132.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:30] cjwatson: did you get anywhere with discussing the question of md5sum hashes? === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-30-42.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73206.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] good morning [08:49] hi dholbach [08:50] hey pygi [08:53] morning dholbach [08:53] hey geser [08:54] how's it going guys? === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=dacia@ubuntu/member/manchicken] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:00] Good morning [09:00] morning all [09:01] hi pitti and mdke [09:01] morning pitti, mdke, pygi [09:01] and Burgundavia :) [09:02] hi === jinty [n=jinty@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jtbates [n=jtbates@adsl-68-248-161-41.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:12] hi pitti [09:13] pitti: please approve python-defaults for feisty-proposed (reverting the change from yesterday, now that python2.5 is built on sparc) [09:14] doko: done === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@4-102.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@37-200.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@106.Red-83-52-94.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:38] morning folks! [09:39] hey siretart [09:39] oh, mjg59's membership in ubuntu-core-dev expired today [09:39] huhu pitti [09:39] geser: oh, why bother merging php4-* from Debian? We should rather remove them === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:40] I remember reading some plans to drop apache1.x and php4 from debian/testing [09:43] yay, merges.u.c. is up to date [09:43] siretart: high time for that === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:46] pitti: that are packages providing a php4 and php5 module (although they are named php4-*) [09:46] elmo: Hey, is gobby.ubuntu.com around this time? [09:46] geser: ah, I see [09:47] pitti: Hey! How's it going? I'll owe you some beers here! [09:48] sbalneav: pretty good! hmm, beer :) [09:48] When do you arrive? [09:48] sbalneav: will you guys come to Sevilla? [09:48] I'm here now! [09:48] sbalneav: oh, great! [09:48] I'm at UES [09:48] sbalneav: tomorrow evening === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:49] heh [09:50] i still haven't found someone who is arriving tomorrow afternoon [09:50] they're either already there or get there late at night [09:50] Amaranth: I am ariving tomorrow afternoon [09:50] Treenaks: when? [09:50] Amaranth: plane lands at 17:00 [09:50] err, that's evening to me :P [09:50] Amaranth: it's not late at night ;) [09:50] heh [09:51] (I hope..) [09:51] i meant more like 1300-1400 [09:51] I'm probably in Madrid then :) [09:51] or somewhere high above France/Spain [09:52] Anybody gonna be at San Pablo at 1300 on Saturday (localtime)? [09:52] I'm looking to share a cab. [09:52] haha [09:52] so am i [09:52] and my plane lands at 1255 iirc [09:53] are you on the same flight? [09:53] anybody arriving around 11pm on the 5th? [09:54] Burgundavia: I think PriceChild said that's about when he gets there [09:54] Amaranth: Mine too. [09:54] manchicken: PM? [09:54] ahh [09:54] Amaranth: American airlines from Chicago? === mvo [n=egon@p54A6732B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:54] manchicken: no, from atlanta [09:54] Amaranth: Yeah, mine arrives at 12:55PM local time on the 5th. [09:54] well, omaha to atlanta to madrid to sevilla [09:55] I've got Champaign, IL to Chicago, IL, to Madrid, to Sevilla. [09:55] AMS->MAD->SVQ [09:55] I leave tomorrow at 12:40 localtime, I arrive at 12:55 on Saturday localtime. [09:55] My body is going to be so confused. [09:55] manchicken: you must be in the same tiny little plane as me :) === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491FF34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] my computer is already set to localtime there [09:56] and i was roughly sleeping those hours already because of work so... :) [09:56] manchicken: I did something like that to Montreal :) [09:56] manchicken: (and back) [09:56] i leave today (dude it's after midnight :) at 1353 [09:57] Amaranth: Ooh, yeah. [09:57] That makes sense. [09:57] Amaranth: I'll be wearing a blue button up shirt with Marlins on it. I'm the fat white geek with a doubleclick backpack and a small green suitcase. We should totally share a cab. [09:57] hehe [09:58] look for the ogre wearing a "No I will not fix your computer" shirt [09:58] https://launchpad.net/~manchicken [09:58] will be hard to miss me, really [09:58] Oh yeah? [09:59] 6'7" [09:59] Nice. [09:59] so...yeah :) [09:59] It'll be nice not to be the only American. [09:59] I mean, you use GNOME, but I won't hold it against you ;) [09:59] I promise. [09:59] You don't? We must do battle. [09:59] KDE ftw [09:59] I'm a big-time kubuntuer. [10:00] I did lots of work on adept for feisty. [10:00] i spent my feisty time trying to make compiz not suck [10:00] and that's the main goal for gutsy too so obviously something went wrong there [10:00] I'm sorry to hear that :) === Amaranth blames drivers [10:01] As do I. [10:01] whoa, wtf === Amaranth tests again [10:01] xchat-gnome suddenly started making actions show a different color [10:01] I hear compiz doesn't have binary blobs embedded in its source. [10:01] Amaranth: ah! YOU didn't unbreak compiz + sloppy focus ;) [10:01] Amaranth: Variety is the spice of life. It's a feature, not a bug. [10:02] You mean compiled cg shaders? :) [10:03] UDS is gonna be sweet. [10:03] Treenaks: I blame your mouse driver [10:03] Amaranth: You got a lp page? [10:03] Amaranth: I blame your limo driver. [10:03] http://launchpad.net/~amaranth but it's pretty worthless [10:04] Oh, so you look like buttercup. I'll just look for buttercup then and we'll be set. [10:04] hahaha [10:04] Wow, my karma is only like 67 [10:04] kassetra from the forums made that for me [10:04] it's got a python, get it? :) [10:04] It's probably because I don't really use the bug tracker :) [10:04] Nice. [10:04] manchicken: http://www.jambav.com/jambav/blogs/media/buttercup.JPG ? [10:04] Except that I loathe python :) [10:05] i have karma? [10:05] Amaranth: yes.. 1257 of it [10:05] interesting [10:06] and wow how does launchpad know about my involvement with libwnck? [10:06] That buttercup. What a bombshell. [10:06] Amaranth: by parsing commit logs? [10:06] oh, right, it's reading gnome's bugzilla [10:06] no no, i don't have any commits to libwnck [10:07] i did some work on the patches for libwnck to make it work better with compiz === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:10] Amaranth: I think it's simpler than that you did comment on some launchpad libwnck bugs [10:10] seb128: but it has me listed as being involved upstream [10:10] iwj: I'm TIL for dpkg; however, can I bribe you to do the merge? [10:10] Amaranth: maybe you opened some upstream tasks === zdra [n=zdra@195.244.169.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-251-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F70E9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:33] pitti: tbird would like to get some binary NEW care :) === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:40] asac: done === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.241.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] doko: can I leave the zope3 merge to you? === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] pitti: sure === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@196.1.61.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === toodles [n=tim@87-198-40-17.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@203-214-63-115.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A64C18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-146.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host119-20-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] pitti: do you think that its worth to register a spec for sevilla for the sru-verification process? we could talk about improving the process by getting more members into the sru-verification team and what to do with stuff were verficiation is HW dependant [11:27] mvo_: sounds good === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yasumoto [n=joe@trailers77.chapman.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-c4a3cd52a140d575] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === siti [n=siti@clix-jaquesmartin-nz.cpe.clix.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] php 5.2.2 is out =) [11:41] http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.2.2 [11:41] pitti: Yes. [11:41] pitti: (re dpkg merge, I mean) [11:42] iwj: thanks [11:42] But not right now as I'm leaving in 5 mins or so ... === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:43] iwj: yes, no hurry, I was just checking my merges.u.c. list === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:48] seb128, evo is crashy for me on html mails ... do you know anything about that ? === iwj goes. [11:53] See people in Spain! [11:53] enjoy the train ride :) [11:56] ole! [11:59] ogra: every time? Can you get a backtrace? [11:59] ogra: I got some crashes but when I restart it the same mail is opened correctly [11:59] seb128, i'm just upgraing the system and hope it goes away, there were some libs and gnome stuff === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:59] right [11:59] same hapens here [11:59] *happens [11:59] i noticed its only html apparently [12:02] pitti: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/sru-verification (I added you and brian and myself) [12:03] that doesn't really look like worth a spec [12:04] seb128: well, the current process does not scale, it needs to be improved [12:06] mvo_: right, but it looks like rather an organisational problem to discuss than something that need to be speced [12:07] seb128: is there is another way to allocate some discussion time then to add a spec and propose it to sevilla? [12:07] mvo_: no idea [12:08] mvo_: no, I don't think so [12:09] seb128: otherwise I agree, if there would be another way === fabbione [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pkl_ [n=pkl_@212.183.134.130] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline824.toya.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsk [i=dsk@gateway/tor/x-0612ade6b81ac6cd] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:19] topic is a bit outdated, s/DeveloperResources/UbuntuDevelopment/ ? [12:19] although there is a redirect === jinty [n=jinty@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:pitti] : Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Gutsy open, go ape! [12:24] tepsipakki: right, thanks for spotting [12:24] pitti: cool, np === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] seb128, upgrade didnt fix it :/ i'll try to get a BT tonight if i have some spare time [12:45] ogra: that's not like getting a backtrace takes a lot of time [12:45] does it segfault or complain about a non existant symbol or something? [12:45] might the spellchecker changes that broke firefox also or something [12:45] else [12:48] hmm [12:49] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [12:49] [Switching to Thread -1233013056 (LWP 20621)] [12:49] 0xb7a6d93f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.14.so.19 [12:50] thats what gdb gives me ... i need the -dbg package for more details [12:50] (bt only lists the lib again, nothing more) === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.127] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos_ [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@dynadsl-080-228-80-065.ewetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fnordus [n=dnall@24.85.128.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chand| [n=rsamson@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === codingmaster [n=codingma@srbk-590fb920.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch [n=yosch@d223-34.RES.UMontreal.CA] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch [n=yosch@d223-34.RES.UMontreal.CA] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host119-20-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stittel [n=tittel@dslb-084-061-047-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] Hi! Where can I find the current state of work on the Pidgin package for Gutsy? I can't find anything on Launchpad or Bazaar or packages.ubuntu.com or anywhere. === hggdh [n=hggdh@30.sub-70-216-131.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === antonym55 [n=antony@58.60.135.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.63.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] doko: do you have an idea about the r-base FTBFS? looks toolchainish === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.63.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.63.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:17] pitti: hrm, wrong .so symlink, so it finds the static lib (which works on i386). will fix === mako_ [n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti hugs doko, thank you === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.63.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@10.Red-83-59-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === afflux [i=k@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x6E18D3C4] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.216.173.168] has joined #ubuntu-devel === broonie [n=broonie@cassiel.sirena.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono_ [n=jono@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:40] mvo_: can I do something like this *apt-get install --reinstall -d `cat packages.list`* with Synaptic by with a single command-line call method? Where packages.list contains the list of packages I want to download. [02:40] cypherbios: not currently, I can add something like to for you if you need it for aptoncd === mdz [n=mdz@ip-81-1-98-129.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:41] mvo_: Great! It would be very very nice. Please :) [02:42] mvo_: did you read my email about this? there are a more details about === dtolj [n=b6001b10@142.204.140.28] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:43] cypherbios: when did you send it? I don't rember from the top of my head [02:43] mvo_: Apr, 28 - 6 days ago === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:44] mvo_: the subject was 'synaptic/apt/dpkg behavior', not much intuitive indeed :) [02:44] cypherbios: right, I have it here. I will answer on my trip to the ubuntu conference [02:44] cypherbios: sorry that it took so long [02:45] mvo_: don't worry, thank you anyway === jinty [n=jinty@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:46] HI ALL!!! === Hobbsee waves from the hotel [02:47] hey Hobbsee! welcome [02:49] pitti: where are you? === chand| [n=rsamson@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:51] Hobbsee: still in my cozy home, I will start tomorrow noon :) [02:51] pitti: awww :( [02:51] Hobbsee: still a normal workday today [02:51] pitti: pity. i kinda figured as much [02:51] it seems that the rooms are are together, which si good [02:52] pitti: hey, me too :) [02:53] pitti: 12:00 flight from Amsterdam to Madrid, then on to Sevilla (Iberia) [02:54] Treenaks: ah, Dresden - Munich - Barcelona - Sevilla for me, arrival 2015 [02:54] Hobbsee: how's Spain? Who are you sharing room with? [02:54] pitti: I arrive at 1700 [02:55] Simira: elkbuntu [02:55] Simira: just got here === pitti leaves for a bit [02:55] pitti: looks like I'm not the only one who had difficulties to find a decent flight [02:55] Simira: had lots of fun with metal screening...ugh. === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] seb128: gosh, it takes longer to get there than to Montreal [02:56] right [02:57] I believe Tollef uses something like 9 hrs [02:57] lucky [02:57] 26.5 here [02:57] Hobbsee: ouch [02:57] 5 for me.. [02:57] Treenaks: uh, yeah [02:58] but Hobbsee is like on the other side of the world from the start... [02:58] Simira: true.. [02:58] Simira: i'm too damned far away === Treenaks is going to have so much fun creating more 'Hello, I use ubuntu' videos ;) === kent [n=kent@82.145.145.164] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] too bad I can't make it to ubucon tomorrow [03:00] we found a suspicious person with a ubuntu sticker on his lapotp at the airport too [03:01] Hobbsee: With a weird African accent? [03:01] South+ [03:02] Treenaks: nah. racarr === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mako [n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [i=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === nags [n=nags@122.167.103.167] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags_ [n=nags@122.167.106.93] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.216.173.168] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:43] pitti: (or anyone) Could someone talk me through how I'm supposed to propose a fix for SRU please? [03:43] I thought I'd followed the procedure but apparently I'd made a mess of it. [03:44] broonie: oh, it wasn't that messy [03:44] broonie: just check the status in gutsy (the default task), create a dapper task, and write a rationale for an SRU === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:45] I can't see any interface allowing me to create tasks. [03:45] pitti: speaking of SRU, anything I can do to make you more comfortable of the KTorrent SRU? [03:45] broonie: Target to release... [03:45] :) [03:45] On the bug page? I can see "Nominate for release" but that's it. [03:46] Yeah, that's it. [03:46] Then someone in -qa (?) will have to approve it. [03:46] I did that AFAICT (it says "Nominated for Dapper" on the bug). [03:46] Throw me the bug number, and I'll approve it. [03:47] 47815. I think I also need to pull all the info in the bug into a single comment for the formal proposal from what pitti said. [03:47] broonie: 'Target fix to release...' in the left menu [03:47] bug 47815 [03:47] Launchpad bug 47815 in nis "/usr/lib/yp/ypxfr produces segmentation fault" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47815 === StevenK is lazy. :-) [03:47] pitti: I can't see that option? [03:47] broonie: Does it only affect Dapper? [03:48] broonie: Dapper approved. [03:48] broonie: I approved your proposal for dapper [03:48] Yes. The code is misoptimised by the compiler; the "fix" is to disable optimisation for the relevant file. [03:49] Thanks. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] So I shouldn't need to add a target for any release after Dapper? Okay. === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] Seveas: ping [03:49] stopid network connection [03:49] elmo: What is that, an auto-ping? :-P [03:50] StevenK: no [03:50] elmo, pong [03:51] Seveas: who do I contact about making sure freenode don't k-line the conference IP as clonebots [03:51] +? [03:52] elmo, BearPerson, nalioth, christel or other senior freenode staffers === nags__ [n=nags@122.167.111.192] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:53] RichiH has an idle time of 3 minutes, he should be around [03:54] Seveas: thanks, talking to nalioth now === j_ack [n=jack@p508DC402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:57] Oh, twitch. [03:57] /dev/mapper/system-var 9.9G 9.4G 0 100% /var === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zerbero_2 [n=jga@p85.212.76.206.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast [n=martin@p508B17AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fnf [n=fnf@58.187.122.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fnf [n=fnf@58.187.122.36] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jtt [n=jtholmes@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:19] Heya === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svolpe [n=Gerrath_@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [04:22] keescook, what about the asterisk security upload? my debdiffs are available for 5 days now :( please have a look at them and upload if they are okay [04:24] pitti: heh bug 112346 has just been filed against the only KTorrent crash fixed in the SRU that's not reported [04:24] Launchpad bug 112346 in ktorrent "[apport] ktorrent crashed with signal 7 in memcpy()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112346 [04:24] so please consider the SRU :( === nags__ is now known as nags [04:25] jdong: heh [04:25] jdong: ok, let me dig though that mega-patch again [04:25] sorry about it :(, I don't want it to be that huge either [04:27] jdong: I just got suspicious when I saw a patch changing a set into a list and such [04:27] pitti: understood; apparently it was necessary to fix a memory corruption issue [04:27] or at least that's the way upstream decided to do it [04:28] as I've said before, I am a heavy KTorrent user and I have confidence these patches don't introduce any regressions [04:28] jdong: and this bit still looks wrong: [04:28] +- if (ab->isFinished()) [04:28] ++ if (!ab || ab->isFinished()) [04:28] + { [04:28] + ab->deleteLater(); [04:28] jdong: i. e. if ab == NULL, the ->deleteLater() will still crash === lemsx1 [n=lemsx1@p86-65.acedsl.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === yosch [n=yosch@132.207.220.104] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:30] pitti: hmm, interesting.... I'll ask upstream.... === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@ip-81-1-98-129.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl245.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:34] pitti: is there anything else that looks particularly concerning? [04:34] jdong: still digging through; I don't understand kubuntu_06_svn634843_retransmit_timeout.patch, the rest looks good so far [04:37] pitti: apparently timeouts weren't being handled correctly before, and KTorrent wouldn't respond to retransmit requests, which causes other torrent clients to flag KTorrent as "evil" [04:37] ah, thanks [04:38] jdong: ok, I'm through; I made some comments in the bug === stittel [n=tittel@dslb-084-061-047-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:39] pitti: thanks for the review; I will work on addressing your concerns [04:39] jdong: thank you! === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm21.epsilon48.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cplx [n=fds@rxp.seadoo4tec.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:00] <`23meg> !logs [05:00] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [05:00] I have finally traced the source of my network-manager troubles [05:01] apparently my university is using Cisco wireless APs which are outputting Cisco-proprietary cap information (wme_ie instead of the standard rsn_ie or wpa_ie). === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubijtsa2 [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pkl_ [n=pkl_@212.183.134.129] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra_ [i=ogra@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-59453f1c2ffb62eb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubijtsa2 [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@122.167.111.192] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _Toxicity999 [n=bryan@ns2.gprime.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@71.132.130.8] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [i=jinty@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-985731b93af6b1cb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-39-79.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mako [n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jouston [n=jouston@59.105.136.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:17] hey guys, anyone managed to use inotify with python in feisty? [05:17] i though inotify was a signal callback type system....but from the docs it looks like you have to poll it? [05:17] am i stupid? [05:17] cbx33: no, you are not === Solarion is [05:18] highvoltage, so I'm right? [05:18] and as per the examples [05:18] cbx33: I don't know. I just answered on the last question. [05:18] from pyinotify.pyinotify import (ProcessEvent, SimpleINotify, EventCodes, ) [05:18] doesn't work [05:18] says ther are no modules called ProcessEvent [05:19] thanks highvoltage ;) [05:19] from pyinotify import (ProcessEvent, SimpleINotify, EventCodes, ) [05:19] sorry [05:19] the above doesn't work either === marcheu [n=marcheu@lattice.u-strasbg.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:23] i think pyinotify is broken [05:25] cbx33: you don't need the parentheses [05:25] (I think) === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:26] hehe [05:26] I'm digging deeper [05:26] apt-get install python-pyinotify-doc ?? [05:26] ;) [05:28] cbx33: class EventsCodes(object): [05:28] note the s [05:30] yes i just modified that [05:30] ogra, have you got it working [05:30] no [05:30] in the end i had to modify one of the shared files [05:31] which had import inotify [05:31] it had to be import _inotify [05:31] i just pointed out that there is an extensive amount of documentation packaged ;) [05:31] yes the docs are good === marcheu [n=marcheu@lattice.u-strasbg.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:31] however, I have just come up against another problem [05:31] File "./inotify.py", line 11, in check [05:31] ino.process_events() [05:31] File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/pyinotify/pyinotify.py", line 650, in process_events [05:31] proc_fun(e) [05:31] TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable [05:32] it works fine until there is actually a change to take care of === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host119-20-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] hmm [05:34] got it working === mdz [n=mdz@ip-81-1-98-129.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] :( i thought inotify was signal callback :( === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cbx33 doesn't want any of this polling business [05:34] plus it's broken :( [05:35] cbx33, _inotify is the low level interface, try the things in the inotify module [05:35] Seveas, well the problem is [05:36] the pyinotify.py file imports some things from inotify.py that don't exist [05:36] however they do exist in _inotify.so [05:36] so now that I've edited the pyinotify.py file it works [05:37] Seveas, i pinged you yesterday....how is falcon coming along for feisty? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:37] cbx33, I have it running on feisty [05:38] should check what I had to fix and bake a proper package === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.215.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:38] well I'd be interested in it [05:38] i need to update my repo for VCSFrenzy === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:39] hi all, hi Seveas [05:39] hi Hobbsee [05:40] cbx33, pm [05:40] Hobbsee, is elky awake? [05:41] Seveas: sure, she's playing with the tv [05:41] heh [05:41] Seveas: did you want me to pass on a message? [05:41] yeah, "prepare for swimming" :) [05:41] actually, she's about to login, it looks like - she's just asked me about the password to login [05:41] hahahhahaa === Hobbsee passes the message on === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:42] It's swimbuntu! === Hobbsee thinks not [05:42] it's not warm enough to swim! [05:42] what's the temp. in sevilla? === Hobbsee ponders what the splash screen would look like... [05:42] 20C or so? [05:42] give or take? [05:42] infinity: can you please give-back javacc? it works fine in a current pbuilder, maybe some build dep like ant was out of date [05:43] i've seen that many airports today that i dont remember which temperature was which [05:43] weather applet says 20 === Solarion wishes networkmanager would remember that either the network information better === pkl__ [n=pkl_@212.183.136.194] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong wishes network-manager-gnome had a less hidden method of "forgetting" networks === LongPointyStick [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong also wishes for a blackbook core 2 duo with 2GB RAM [05:46] and world peace [05:46] ha [05:46] you cant throw us in if you're not here [05:46] :) [05:47] elkbuntu, I'll arrive there in about 31 hours [05:47] right, so we're safe until....*calculates* [05:47] jdong, sounds like a beast of a machine [05:48] Hobbsee, midnight tomorrow [05:48] fun [05:48] elkbuntu, evrn longer [05:48] plane lands at 00:20 [05:48] oh? [05:48] cbx33: certainly does :), looks sexy too [05:48] ah, i thought it was like just before midnight [05:49] got a link? [05:49] cbx33: apple.com/store? :) [05:49] the one I priced out was like 1400 with student discounts [05:49] which I found reasonable for a system with that specs and that size factor [05:51] heh [05:51] yeh [05:51] back later guys [05:51] yeah, good luck on yor notify stuff :) === dpm [n=dpm@p54A134A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nealmcb [n=neal@wikipedia/nealmcb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pkl__ [n=pkl_@212.183.136.194] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jordiR [n=jordi@87.219.191.57] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chand| [n=rsamson@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [i=jinty@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-275c3adfb61daeeb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cplx_ [n=fds@rxp.seadoo4tec.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch_ [n=yosch@132.207.220.104] has joined #ubuntu-devel === codingmaster [n=codingma@srbk-590fb920.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-21-231.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ is now known as azeem [06:33] any core-dev can review a one-line change which fixes bug 112384? :) [06:33] Launchpad bug 112384 in liferea "Liferea doesn't work anymore due to the latest firefox upload (2.0.0.3+3-0ubuntu1)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112384 [06:34] there's a debdiff in the report === ivoks [n=ivoks@1-76.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pkl_ [n=pkl_@212.183.136.192] has joined #ubuntu-devel === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl245.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=jack@p508DC402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === adamant1988 [n=adam@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmon [n=monnahan@123.pool85-55-6.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === afflux [i=k@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x6E18D3C4] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@host-84-221-58-132.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong gives Mithrandir a big hug after https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM and expects a whipping soon.... === pkl__ [n=pkl_@212.183.134.130] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke [n=koke@87.218.96.225] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-081-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:02] pitti: Done. === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === afflux_ [n=b@pentabarf.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@112.Red-88-8-117.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:14] pitti: *grumble grumble* Ktorrent upstream fixed it in their development branch but not their stable one; I will backport the new patch and update the SRU accordingly [08:14] infinity: thank you! [08:15] jdong: hm, I figure the fix for that NULL deref shouldn't be that intrusive? [08:17] pitti: nope, but KT upstream loves to bundle such fixes in svn commits with lots of other random crap too [08:17] no worries, I shall fix :) [08:17] jdong: yay; wasn't that what VCS were built for to avoid? :-/ [08:18] pitti: well.. it's better than like 5 months ago when their changelog for a 200-line commit was "Fixed a problem" [08:18] :D [08:18] lol [08:18] jdong: My favourite is "New version" === pitti -> off for evening, cu in spain [08:18] can anyone tell me why the x-x-v-ati driver has Conflicts/Replaces/Provides for atimisc/r128/radeon, right from the start when it has been packaged. None of those packages have been in Debian/Ubuntu, so those can probably be dropped from the driver? [08:19] For any commit of any size. [08:19] broonie: 'changed a few things' === JohnFlux_ [n=JohnFlux@cpc3-brig10-0-0-cust96.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] broonie: they'd release like 2.0.1 and their changelog to 2.0.0 was "Features and bugfixes"... and we're combing thru like 1000-line debdiffs UVF season. [08:20] Sounds entirely famililar. The guy I'm thinking of just used the same commit message for all commits, each of which could have random numbers of different things going on it. [08:21] :) === psusi [i=hidden-u@iriserv.iradimed.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yasumoto [n=joe@trailers66.chapman.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke [n=koke@87.218.96.225] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === macd [n=d@adsl-222-54-189.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:39] I can't build a gutsy pbuilder on feisty due to a missing file (E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy) [08:40] any ideas for a workaround? I'd like to have a pbuilder for gutsy without using gutsy ;) [08:47] afflux_: install debootstrap from gutsy [08:49] would that mean I get a chroot (but not a pbuilder?) [08:49] no [08:49] pbuilder uses debootstrap to build the base.tgz [08:50] (and a pbuilder is a special form of a chroot) [08:50] ah.. so I should download debootstrap from gutsy and install it in my feisty? [08:50] yeah, I think that should work [08:51] debootstrap is all non-binary scripts anyway, it should be safe to do [08:51] okay, I'll have a try [08:51] I should backport debootstrap === afflux_ is now known as afflux [08:55] looks good, thank you both === madc [n=d@adsl-222-54-189.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bashelier [n=bashelie@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:14] I can't debootstrap gutsy either because some package fails to install [09:16] psusi: could you please past the errors you get ? :) [09:16] we can't help you if you don't ;) [09:16] trying it again and will do so in a second [09:16] it's fetching packages now... === Keybuk [n=scott@192.18.41.196] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Halcy0n [n=halcy0n@pdpc/supporter/active/Halcy0n] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:29] how do you like that? today bootstrapping gutsy works [09:30] psusi: ^^ === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:32] guess it's been fixed... 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[11:13] Tincho: it is, here or in #ubuntu-kernel, but he is probably travelling to uds-sevilla [11:14] Lure: ah, ok. will mail him then [11:14] thanks === chrysn [n=chrysn@86.59.50.121] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-cf0dc3c14ff97097] has joined #ubuntu-devel === psusi [i=hidden-u@iriserv.iradimed.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-21-231.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-081-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcheu [n=marcheu@lattice.u-strasbg.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geubank4 [n=chatzill@cpe-76-183-250-45.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:36] can anyone sponsor an upload for me? I have attached a debdiff to bug #110335 [11:36] Launchpad bug 110335 in wxwidgets2.6 "index.html is a dangling symlink" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110335 [11:36] psusi: aren't you supposed to be subscribing u-u-s and crap ;-) [11:36] eh? [11:37] psusi: subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [11:37] that's apparently the "correct" way to be begging for sponsors ;-) [11:37] ohhh... right... wait a second... let me see, this package may not be in universe ;) === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:37] ubuntu-main-sponsors :) [11:38] ohh, yea.. it is universe... ok, cool [11:38] I usually start poking like a week after no response :D [11:39] fortunately, it's a single line patch that just removes an extranious '-' in the file name ;) [11:39] shouldn't take long to review... hehe === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.static.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] man I can't wait for dpkg triggers to get here [11:40] it sucks big floppy donkey dong to see the initramfs, font caches, etc all being rebuild 300 times during a dist-upgrade [11:41] 17:40 < psusi> it sucks big floppy donkey dong to see the initramfs, font [11:41] NO. COMMENT. [11:41] :D [11:42] hehe [11:43] incidentally I also like that phrase because it contains the word floppy... and floppy drives suck big floppy donkey dong... wrote a driver for them once for ReactOS [11:43] LOL [11:43] writing a driver REALLY makes you appreciate just how bad they suck [11:44] lol [11:44] I tore all mine apart [11:44] nice servos [11:44] good for other projects [11:45] ok now, what the hell? 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