[09:10] <jenda> juliux: yo
[09:11] <BHSPitMonkey> yo!
[09:30] <jenda> yo? :)
[09:31] <jenda> Oh - my - god... why does Dell sell Ubuntu with automatix? I'd sue them for brand damaging.
[09:33] <Madpilot> jenda, you're serious? They're planning on bundling that thing into their Ubuntu machines?
[09:33] <jenda> I'm afraid so.
[09:33] <Madpilot> gah.
[09:34] <Madpilot> I know it was mentioned on the page that listed Michael Dell's Ubuntu laptop
[09:34] <jenda> Lemme search
[09:34] <jenda> I found it on a Czech news site.
[09:35] <jenda> Madpilot: well, look here: http://www.novinky.cz/internet/software/americky-dell-zacina-prodavat-pocitace-s-linuxem_114320_2nrgu.html
[09:35] <jenda> Come to think of it, maybe they just took the picture from Mr. Dell's blog.
[09:35] <Madpilot> yeah, that's from the blog
[09:35] <jenda> *phew*
[09:36] <jenda> **phew**
[09:36] <jenda> :)
[09:36] <jenda> It's bad enough he himself uses it ;)
[09:36] <jenda> I think, considering the amount of support the Ubuntu community gives for automatix-infected machines, it wouldn't be a smart move on Dell's side.
[09:37] <Madpilot> I can't imagine that Canonical would be too pleased if Dell wanted to set something official up w/ them, but use 3rd party tools with awful reputations
[09:37] <jenda> yeppers
[09:37] <jenda> jeez.
[09:37] <jenda> I panicked there a bit ;) What a relief
[09:42] <jenda> lol, I opened up the comments there, wanting to add a few notes... but jeez, just reading a few submissions puts me off.
[09:43] <jenda> The Czech online population is really... well... not the brightest folks around :)
[10:45] <juliux> jenda, ?
[10:48] <jenda> juliux: about that black t-shirt
[10:49] <juliux> jenda, ah yes
[10:49] <jenda> the guy doesn't want two blue ones, so we'll have to remove that shirt from the order.
[10:50] <juliux> np
[10:50] <juliux> i will send you some more money for the stickers back ok?
[10:51] <jenda> coolio
[10:52] <jenda> juliux: when could you pay for the stickers?
[10:52] <juliux> jenda, in the next days
[10:53] <juliux> we get a damn good price for the shirts
[10:53] <jenda> awesome
[10:53] <jenda> hehe :)
[10:53] <jenda> cool
[10:53] <juliux> i ordered yesterday 255 shirts
[10:53] <jenda> I had to delay the stickers, because I simply didn't have enough cash on hand to pay for both them and the posters.
[10:53] <jenda> wow
[10:53] <jenda> nice number :)
[10:53] <jenda> 1111111 in binary ;)
[10:54] <juliux> and he nows that we allready did 150 shirts last november;)
[10:54] <jenda> erm, I'm not a geek, really, I'm not :)
[10:54] <jenda> ok
[10:54] <juliux> and we told him that perhaps we will order twice a year
[10:54] <jenda> hehe
[10:54] <jenda> well, that sure is gonna make him give you a good price.
[10:54] <jenda> What does that mean for your buyers, juliux? :)
[10:55] <juliux> jenda, nothing;)
[10:55] <jenda> thought so ;)
[10:56] <jenda> juliux: would you like me to bring any of the A2 posters to Dresden?
[10:56] <juliux> jenda, not needed;9
[10:56] <jenda> hehe
[10:56] <jenda> you got your own now?
[10:56] <juliux> i will print two din a0 posters for the expos
[10:56] <jenda> neat!
[10:56] <jenda> Well, I meant, perhaps for the loco folks :)
[10:56] <juliux> i will ask them
[10:59] <jenda> coolio
[11:00] <jenda> I'll have trouble selling them, because the international shipping is expensive on them - and people won't as easily buy 10 A2 posters as they did A3s
[11:00] <jenda> I only made them because the French LoCo wanted them.
[11:00] <juliux> ask all the locoteams
[11:00] <jenda> I'm doing - but I don't want to look like a spammer :)
[11:02] <juliux> you are not a spammer
[11:02] <juliux> you can only sell something if you ask everybody you know
[11:11] <jenda> hehe :)
[11:11] <jenda> of course
[11:12] <juliux> jenda, write an e-mail to the locoteam mailinglist and ask them that they ask there locoteams
[11:14] <juliux> yeah
[11:15] <juliux> that was the fasted shippit ever, 
[11:15] <juliux> jenda, i got my ubuntu cds;)
[11:15] <jenda> yay :)
[11:15] <jenda> hehe
[11:15] <jenda> juliux: will do
[11:15] <jenda> good idea
[11:15] <juliux> jenda, from the 255shirts are "only" 170 for germany;)
[11:17] <jenda> neat :)
[11:21] <jenda> juliux: how much did you pay for them t-shirts?
[11:22] <juliux> jenda, you mean what we pay for one t-shirt?
[11:22] <jenda> nah, I meant, the budget of the entire project
[11:22] <jenda> if it's not too much of a secret that is :)
[11:22] <juliux> our limit was 3000
[11:22] <jenda> cool
[11:22] <juliux> and we pay now 2600
[11:23] <jenda> I just checked my files, and all I ever spent all together on all the posters, stickers and stuff was 1000
[02:43] <juliux> hi jono 
[02:43] <jono> hey
[03:08] <jenda> elkbuntu: yo
[03:08] <jenda> elkbuntu: see locoteam ML, which I've spammed ;) The A2 posters are no worse to ship than the A3s
[03:09] <elkbuntu> sweet
[03:09] <elkbuntu> im still waiting for the spam to come in before i can see what mail there is ;)
[03:09] <jenda> hehe
[03:11] <juliux> jenda, the old spammer from CZ ;)
[03:12] <jenda> not old, yet :)
[04:23] <jenda> meatballhat: oi
[04:23] <jenda> juliux: ping
[04:23] <jenda> meatballhat: what is... this? diy.devubuntu.com ?
[04:27] <meatballhat> jenda: :)
[04:27] <meatballhat> yesh
[04:27] <meatballhat> overhaul
[04:27] <jenda> How's yes an answer to 'what's this'? :)
[04:27] <meatballhat> don't fret
[04:27] <jenda> hehe
[04:27] <jenda> ok
[04:27] <jenda> s
[04:27] <meatballhat> :D
[04:27] <jenda> bah
[04:27] <jenda> :)
[04:27] <meatballhat> jenda: lookie here -->  meatballhat.com/ubuntu/
[04:28] <meatballhat> and here:   wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite/DesignSpec
[04:28] <jenda> cool :)
[04:29] <meatballhat> you and Troy are officially my grouchy mentors ;-)
[04:29] <meatballhat> I'm enjoying every moment of it
[04:31] <jenda> hehe :)
[04:31] <jenda> I really like that DVD cover.
[04:31] <meatballhat> jenda: the end product will make you proud ... I promise  ;-)
[04:31] <jenda> ok :)
[04:32] <meatballhat> jenda: good to hear :D
[04:36] <jenda> hehe :)
[04:36] <jenda> meatballhat: do you know a 'Martin Owens'?
[04:37] <jenda> meatballhat: I'm just sending him some posters, and he lives in Boston, MA
[04:37] <jenda> is that a different Boston?
[04:38] <meatballhat> jenda: same Boston, but it's been 22 years since I lived there  ;-)
[04:38] <jenda> ah
[04:38] <jenda> :)
[04:39] <meatballhat> I'd like to know Martin Owens, though .... that's a trustworthy name if I ever heard one  :P
[04:39] <jenda> hehe
[04:39] <jenda> you've never heard his wife's name, man
[04:39] <jenda> she sent teh payment :D
[06:24] <juliux> jenda, pong
[06:30] <jenda> nevermind :)
[06:31] <jenda> hmm, one thing, though :)
[06:31] <jenda> juliux: when do you expect the shirts?
[06:31] <juliux> jenda, they will arrive 25.5 in berlin for the linuxtag
[06:32] <jenda> cool
[06:32] <jenda> you can expect me some time after that, then :)
[06:39] <juliux> ok
[08:19] <nixternal> jenda: well because of you I finally donated some love to the PDPC
[08:20] <jenda> oooh ;)
[08:20] <nixternal> hehe
[08:20] <jenda> :)
[08:20] <nixternal> I am planning on donating $32/quarter
[08:20] <jenda> I'd like it more if you donated to me because of Freenode, but hey - this is the next best thing! :)
[08:20] <nixternal> hahaha
[08:21] <nixternal> I need to up my fsf donations as well before I forget
[08:21] <jenda> :)
[08:21] <nixternal> ooh, you get a fancy cloak for donating
[08:22] <nixternal> does that over-write my ubuntu cloak?
[08:23] <jenda> nope
[08:23] <nixternal> ok cool
[08:23] <jenda> ubuntu/member/pdpc.bleh.nix
[08:23] <nixternal> rock on, and how long does it take to kick in?
[08:23] <nixternal> I want people to know who I support damnit!
[08:23] <jenda> about two weeks, unfortunately.
[08:23] <nixternal> tis fine
[08:23] <nixternal> why so slow?
[08:24] <nixternal> they are quick to charge my card, but slow to tack on the cloak ;)
[08:24] <jenda> hehe
[08:24] <jenda> because only one person is authorised to do that.
[08:31] <nothlit> Hey-- what do you guys think of ubuntu as--when you're trying to promote it--what exactly are you promoting?
[08:35] <jenda> hm
[08:35] <jenda> I'm not sure I understand
[08:41] <nothlit> ok--in other channels, i asked--what feelings and emotions are evoked when you think of ubuntu as a distro, and its community
[08:42] <nothlit> some key words i have are Single Words
[08:42] <nothlit> Choice. Customisability. Freedom. Friendships. Collaboration. Contribution. Power. Ease. Helping. Enabling.
[08:42] <nothlit> Pairs.
[08:42] <nothlit> Starting Ground. 
[08:42] <nothlit> do you get where i'm going?
[09:33] <jenda> nothlit: sorry, my connection stopped working and then I had to run off
[09:34] <jenda> I'll write what thoughts I have in a sec :)
[09:34] <nothlit> ahh, that'd be great :D
[09:35] <nothlit> jenda: https://people.fluxbuntu.org/~nothlit/communitytheme/gutsy/literature/concepts.html --this is what I'm working on atm
[09:40] <jenda> hmm, I'm slowly getting it ;)
[09:41] <jenda> nothlit: but I don't know what its for
[09:42] <nothlit> jenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityTheme
[09:42] <nothlit> ignore the concepts though--we're starting from the ground up
[09:43] <jenda> communitytheme = me likey
[09:43] <jenda> Sounds a bit like Ubun2 - 2
[09:43] <jenda> doesn't it?
[09:43] <jenda> It's what I'd like it to be :)
[09:43] <jenda> what was it about the ubuntu concepts, though?
[09:43] <jenda> I still don't really understand
[09:46] <nothlit> jenda: hmm? no ubunt2 is troy_s' baby, hes going for a particular motif and its not a community concept generated and designed project
[09:47] <nothlit> jenda: lol, start from the bottom of this page, and work your way up and you'll understand our workflow http://www.isity.net/blog/?cat=5
[09:58] <jenda> nothlit: ok :)
[10:00] <nothlit> jenda: any word on nun?
[10:11] <jenda> nothlit: nope... I still didn't have a chance to discuss with nalioth, sorry :|
[10:12] <jenda> nothlit: my exams are starting, so I'm really hard-pressed
[10:13] <nothlit> jenda: thats fine--we're still discussing absorbing the hardware team and getting things started--it'd be great to have you guys on board though
[10:13] <jenda> :)
[10:13] <jenda> I'll try to catch him some time, but I'm tired today, and well... sheesh... so many things, so little time :)
[10:14] <jenda> I _should_ be translating to meet my deadline, but I am not :)
[10:14] <jenda> oh well
[10:18] <jenda> nothlit: ok, I looked through the Community Theme, and it is what I hoped Ubun2 would be, is more precise ;)
[10:18] <jenda> I would really like that to happen.
[10:18] <jenda> But my skills in the area are nill.
[11:36] <Mike_F> hello: