| AlexLatchford | hmm, well this machine has been up for.. 23:27:16 up 4 days, 11:20, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.34, 0.41 | 12:27 |
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| AlexLatchford | without any restarts.. | 12:27 |
| asac | maybe you logged out? | 12:27 |
| asac | and in? | 12:27 |
| AlexLatchford | not that I can think of.. | 12:27 |
| AlexLatchford | I am the only user of the computer.. | 12:28 |
| AlexLatchford | strange.. | 12:28 |
| asac | maybe a crash? | 12:28 |
| asac | while dragging bookmarks :-P | 12:28 |
| asac | :) | 12:28 |
| asac | lol | 12:28 |
| AlexLatchford | :) | 12:28 |
| AlexLatchford | probably | 12:28 |
| asac | honestly i am not sure when bookmarks.html is updated ... e.g. directly when you change bookmark state | 12:28 |
| asac | or if you close | 12:28 |
| asac | i think the former | 12:28 |
| asac | maybe your disk was full? | 12:29 |
| asac | this is known to cause plenty problems | 12:29 |
| asac | bad thing is that thunderbird is already build :) | 12:30 |
| asac | probably i should push fixed version soon | 12:30 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm, disk is nowhere near full | 12:31 |
| asac | if i am lucky people will hold back because enigmail or locales are not yet there :) | 12:31 |
| asac | crazy thing | 12:31 |
| asac | and you don't remember some kind of crash? | 12:31 |
| AlexLatchford | nope | 12:31 |
| asac | e.g. maybe even during upgrade? | 12:31 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm, not that I can think of | 12:31 |
| asac | or you needed to kill firefox processes? anything else which was "not normal" ? | 12:32 |
| asac | then nevermind ;) | 12:32 |
| AlexLatchford | I kill firefox processes all the time lol | 12:32 |
| asac | really? | 12:32 |
| AlexLatchford | never did any harm before lol | 12:32 |
| asac | yeah ... but there is the chance ... you know the unlikely chance | 12:32 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah, alot when viewing about 30 tabs | 12:32 |
| asac | :) | 12:32 |
| asac | you kill? | 12:33 |
| asac | e.g. like kill PID | 12:33 |
| asac | ? | 12:33 |
| asac | or through gnome process list? | 12:33 |
| AlexLatchford | well I use killall firefox-bin | 12:33 |
| asac | oha | 12:33 |
| asac | yeah ... ok then we should file it under that category :) | 12:33 |
| asac | thanks for trying though. | 12:33 |
| asac | ;) | 12:34 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah, most likely.. no problems :) | 12:34 |
| asac | hehe | 12:38 |
| asac | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/111818 | 12:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 111818 in firefox "firefox choose helper application dialog is useless" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:38 |
| asac | i somehow don't get where people get the energy to talk so much trollish things | 12:38 |
| asac | like ... "The choose-helper-application dialog is fundamentally broken in a way | 12:38 |
| asac | that's not fixable." | 12:38 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm, I am getting the SSL error now | 12:39 |
| asac | then ... File type association and the required user | 12:39 |
| asac | interface for it is a tricky process that is quite hard to get right. | 12:39 |
| asac | AlexLatchford: yes | 12:39 |
| asac | you can fix it like | 12:39 |
| asac | cd /usr/lib/firefox (as root) | 12:39 |
| asac | ln -s ../nss/libnssckbi.so | 12:39 |
| asac | all done as root | 12:40 |
| asac | or ln with sudo :) | 12:40 |
| AlexLatchford | ta | 12:40 |
| asac | same for tbird 2.0 if you use it | 12:40 |
| AlexLatchford | aha okay | 12:41 |
| asac | anyway ... this shows us that not many people are using preview archive | 12:41 |
| asac | which we should find a way to change :) | 12:41 |
| asac | as its exactly the reason why we have it ;) | 12:42 |
| asac | especially when doing major packaging changes | 12:42 |
| asac | maybe once gnomefreak is a bit more used to the procedures we should spread the word | 12:42 |
| AlexLatchford | yes | 12:42 |
| asac | and at best keep firefox-trunk out of official archive for some time ... e.g. to attract more users ;) | 12:43 |
| asac | bad trick ... i know ;) | 12:43 |
| asac | even the firefox test plan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA ... would have revealed that ;) | 12:44 |
| asac | ok night | 01:11 |
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| AlexLatchford | asac: you going to Seville? | 10:27 |
| asac | sure | 10:28 |
| asac | tomorrow is ramp up ;) | 10:28 |
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| pochu | asac: the latest firefox upload has broken liferea, it now segfaults at startup, and doesn't build anymore as it is | 02:26 |
| pochu | checking for MOZILLA... no | 02:27 |
| pochu | firefox: nochecking for MOZILLA... no | 02:27 |
| pochu | configure: error: | 02:27 |
| pochu | *** You must have either the GtkHTML2, XulRunner or the Mozilla | 02:27 |
| pochu | *** development libraries installed in order to build Liferea! | 02:27 |
| pochu | but there is firefox-dev 2.0.0.3+3-0ubuntu1 there | 02:28 |
| pochu | asac: do you know why this can be? | 02:29 |
| asac | hmm | 02:41 |
| asac | right | 02:41 |
| asac | can you try a respin please? | 02:41 |
| asac | pochu: ^^^ | 02:41 |
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| asac | pochu: what does lifeares use in confiigure.in ? | 02:42 |
| asac | firefox-config ? or pkg-config? | 02:42 |
| asac | damn ... my archive mirror is pretty slow now | 02:48 |
| asac | ok lunch | 02:48 |
| bluekuja | asac: tell me when you're back | 02:55 |
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| pochu | asac: it uses pkg-config | 03:29 |
| asac | pochu: maybe look what test fails ... so we know more | 03:41 |
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| pochu | asac: this is where liferea looks at the mozilla engine: http://pastebin.ca/470798 | 04:33 |
| pochu | emilio@kiko:~$ pkg-config --libs-only-L firefox-gtkmozembed | 04:44 |
| pochu | Package nspr was not found in the pkg-config search path. | 04:44 |
| pochu | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `nspr.pc' | 04:44 |
| pochu | to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable | 04:44 |
| pochu | Package 'nspr', required by 'XPCOM', not found | 04:44 |
| pochu | emilio@kiko:~$ | 04:44 |
| pochu | that's wasn't happening with previous firefox, IIRC | 04:45 |
| pochu | If I'm true, listen shouldn't build, too | 04:45 |
| pochu | s/true/right/ | 04:46 |
| pochu | yes, it fails | 04:52 |
| pochu | So that's the reason they're failing, I think | 04:53 |
| pochu | asac: do you know why that's broken? | 04:53 |
| pochu | debian/control.in, debian/control, debian/rules: use system-nspr and system-nss; drop libnss3 and libnspr4 and friends from control files; remove debhelper files accordingly | 04:54 |
| pochu | ^ Maybe that's the reason | 04:54 |
| asac | hmm | 05:34 |
| asac | pochu: | 05:34 |
| asac | can you paste the configure.in section that tests this? | 05:35 |
| asac | is libnspr4-dev installed for you? | 05:36 |
| pochu | asac: it isn't, but if I try to install it, it wants to remove half of my system | 05:38 |
| asac | pochu: yeah right | 05:40 |
| pochu | maybe if I add it to build-depends... | 05:44 |
| bluekuja | asac: I tried to follow a comment i got in revu about the package | 05:47 |
| bluekuja | asac: the best solution would be to apply it on the gtorrent-viewer dir right after unpacking it, and add automake1.4, intltool to Build-Depends (so that itll rerun autotools during the build only), and you should have a cleaner diff.gz. | 05:47 |
| bluekuja | asac: I tried doing it, but it mess all up | 05:48 |
| bluekuja | asac: do yout think is it possible to do? | 05:48 |
| pochu | asac: wow, it has worked! :) | 05:48 |
| pochu | gonna test it now | 05:48 |
| asac | pochu: what has worked? | 05:48 |
| asac | sorry i dropped the ball :) | 05:49 |
| pochu | asac: liferea has built :) | 05:49 |
| asac | what did you do to fix it? just upgrade everything to latest? | 05:50 |
| pochu | asac: nope, add "libnspr4-dev" to build-depends | 05:50 |
| pochu | does that make sense? | 05:50 |
| pochu | without it, pkg-config didn't find gtkmozembed, I think | 05:51 |
| pochu | and it really needed a rebuild, because it was crashing | 05:51 |
| pochu | just after launching it | 05:51 |
| pochu | it didn't started, even | 05:51 |
| pochu | asac: both liferea and listen aren't working, so I suppose every other application using the gtkembedmoz engine won't work anymore, and will need a rebuild | 05:59 |
| pochu | asac: is that ok? | 05:59 |
| pochu | I say it to upload a new liferea or not :) | 05:59 |
| asac | pochu: i think you just have to change build depends to libnspr4-dev | 06:04 |
| asac | not libnspr-dev | 06:04 |
| asac | if you use libnspr-dev ... packages might not get upgraded properly | 06:04 |
| asac | maybe i need to add a conflict somewhere | 06:05 |
| asac | but yes ... all applications probably need a respin | 06:05 |
| pochu | asac: ok, then I'll do it! | 06:08 |
| pochu | thanks for your help | 06:08 |
| pochu | and for the transition, you might want to mail the ml :) | 06:09 |
| asac | yes definitly :) | 06:11 |
| asac | i have to upload another firefox before ... as not all headers had been included properly | 06:11 |
| asac | but then i will do :) | 06:11 |
| pochu | :) | 06:12 |
| pochu | btw I already have a debdiff for liferea :) | 06:12 |
| pochu | I'm fast! :-) | 06:12 |
| asac | wow :-P | 06:13 |
| asac | bluekuja: running autotools during build is usually evil | 06:49 |
| bluekuja | asac: :D | 06:49 |
| asac | and actually automake-1.4 appeared to have caused the problems ... so if you do it ... use latest automake | 06:50 |
| bluekuja | asac: I think that diff problem is quite impossible to make more clean | 06:50 |
| asac | you can repack upstream tarball | 06:50 |
| asac | e.g. unpack ...run autotools ...pack again | 06:50 |
| bluekuja | do you think that GTorrentViewer problem wont happen? | 06:51 |
| asac | and BUG upstream to do it for you :) | 06:51 |
| asac | when? | 06:51 |
| bluekuja | asac: nevermind | 06:51 |
| bluekuja | asac: didnt see your text above | 06:52 |
| bluekuja | asac: now i try to do it | 06:52 |
| bluekuja | unpack, autools, and repack | 06:52 |
| bluekuja | gonna ping you with results soon | 06:52 |
| asac | yes ... add something to upstream version | 06:52 |
| asac | probably i am gone ... i have to finish preparations for travel | 06:53 |
| asac | :) | 06:53 |
| asac | but you can try | 06:53 |
| asac | if you repack ... remove debian directory as well from tarball | 06:53 |
| asac | bluekuja: ^^^ | 06:54 |
| bluekuja | asac: :D | 06:54 |
| bluekuja | asac: going to sevilla? | 06:54 |
| asac | yes | 06:55 |
| bluekuja | asac: cool, do you travel to italy too sometimes? | 06:56 |
| asac | at least if i didn't mess up my booking completely :) | 06:56 |
| asac | if there is UDS ;) ... otherwise depends on my holiday planning | 06:56 |
| bluekuja | asac: if you come....I'll give you my phone number | 06:57 |
| bluekuja | and we can meet somewhere | 06:57 |
| bluekuja | :P | 06:57 |
| bluekuja | in italy | 06:57 |
| asac | sure ... where are you based? | 06:57 |
| bluekuja | near venice :D | 06:57 |
| asac | oh nice ;) | 06:58 |
| bluekuja | asac: for dpkg-source -x should I use diff from revu as you did? | 06:59 |
| bluekuja | after unpacking, autotools, repacking | 06:59 |
| asac | good question ... try to figure out :) ... if you do right your diff should almost the same then what i posted | 07:00 |
| asac | but remember to keep the changelog from upstream debian/ directory | 07:00 |
| bluekuja | mmmm...what you mean? | 07:00 |
| bluekuja | upstream changelog should be placed where? | 07:01 |
| asac | you add it to your debian/ dir | 07:01 |
| asac | and add your new entry | 07:01 |
| asac | e.g. reuse it | 07:01 |
| bluekuja | oh....you mean adding a new entry in debian/changelog with last changes? | 07:01 |
| asac | e.g. upstream changelog because ubuntu changelog | 07:01 |
| asac | just keep the change histroy of upstream when you delete debian/ dir in upstream tarball | 07:02 |
| bluekuja | oh ok | 07:02 |
| bluekuja | now I have to figure out | 07:02 |
| bluekuja | with that problem | 07:02 |
| bluekuja | :D | 07:03 |
| asac | ok ... out for a while | 07:03 |
| bluekuja | ok ;) | 07:03 |
| asac | you will do it ... you learn most if you discover how to do on your own :) | 07:03 |
| bluekuja | asac: diff file now it's 10000 lines instead of 21000 | 07:11 |
| bluekuja | as before | 07:11 |
| bluekuja | 60kb instead of 140 kb | 07:11 |
| bluekuja | asac: not really clean as your one (2.9 kb) lol | 07:12 |
| bluekuja | asac: still to big? | 07:13 |
| bluekuja | asac: rebuilded it....now i get a 2.1 kb diff file | 07:17 |
| bluekuja | but it get GTorrentVIewer problem | 07:18 |
| bluekuja | damn | 07:18 |
| [Cade2] | Just want to thank you guys for getting FF and TB2 packaged up finally =D | 09:38 |
| AlexLatchford | asac: How do I output diff's to a file? | 09:47 |
| AlexLatchford | I grabbed a copy of TB's source and am messing about trying to create patches, I can get it to see the diff's I have made, but cannot work out how to output them to a file like in the debian/patches format.. | 09:48 |
| asac | how do you see the diffs you made? | 09:56 |
| asac | AlexLatchford: ^^ | 09:57 |
| AlexLatchford | in the terminal window | 09:57 |
| AlexLatchford | I just added some random text to a few files.. | 09:57 |
| bluekuja | asac: README problems fixed | 09:57 |
| AlexLatchford | I am presuming there is just an option I pass to get it to output them into a file.. | 09:58 |
| AlexLatchford | just the help message is darn confusing.. | 09:58 |
| asac | AlexLatchford: there are two cases: | 09:58 |
| asac | 1. you change something below debian/ | 09:58 |
| asac | 2. you change something in mozilla source (e.g. build-tree/mozilla) | 09:59 |
| asac | 1. is simple | 09:59 |
| AlexLatchford | I made changes in /mozilla | 09:59 |
| asac | in build-tree/mozilla ? | 09:59 |
| AlexLatchford | yes, just some dummy ones.. | 09:59 |
| asac | ok | 09:59 |
| asac | how do you see the diffs at the moment? | 10:00 |
| asac | e.g. you said: "I can get it to see the diff's I have made" | 10:00 |
| asac | ? | 10:00 |
| AlexLatchford | Well say I have added the line '<test></test>' to an XUL file, it then repeats the command back to me.. | 10:01 |
| AlexLatchford | the line even | 10:01 |
| AlexLatchford | but doesn;t seem to produce a diff file under the directory I am running the command from.. | 10:01 |
| asac | ah ok | 10:01 |
| asac | ok | 10:01 |
| asac | we have quilt for patch management | 10:01 |
| asac | and you should use it to maintain changes | 10:02 |
| asac | its not that difficult | 10:02 |
| AlexLatchford | aha okay | 10:02 |
| asac | it just needs a bit concentration that you actually register files you are going to change | 10:02 |
| asac | e.g. | 10:02 |
| asac | you start from clean sources | 10:02 |
| asac | e.g. abort a build | 10:02 |
| asac | now if you want to add some feature | 10:02 |
| asac | or some change you do: | 10:02 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources | 10:02 |
| AlexLatchford | ah, makes sense | 10:02 |
| asac | look in the bottom most box | 10:03 |
| asac | you see it? | 10:03 |
| asac | its: | 10:03 |
| asac | quilt push -a | 10:03 |
| AlexLatchford | yes. | 10:03 |
| asac | ... | 10:03 |
| asac | and so on | 10:03 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah yeah, seems fairly simple | 10:03 |
| asac | right | 10:03 |
| asac | give it a try :) | 10:03 |
| AlexLatchford | I will, may as well give the programming knowledge I have trying to fix some of the problems users have | 10:04 |
| asac | to produce a patch i the current form i use refresh like this | 10:04 |
| asac | quilt refresh --diffstat -U8 | 10:04 |
| asac | ;) | 10:04 |
| asac | yeah | 10:04 |
| asac | go ahead | 10:04 |
| AlexLatchford | aha okay | 10:04 |
| asac | if you have edited files that you registered with the topmost patch (see wiki example) | 10:04 |
| asac | it will automatically update the diff (or add the new one) | 10:05 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm okay | 10:05 |
| asac | just play around with quilt and read manpage | 10:06 |
| asac | its fairly simple | 10:06 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah I will do | 10:08 |
| asac | but can be tricky ;) | 10:08 |
| AlexLatchford | I know a lot of programming concepts, not many languages though, but it shouldn't be too hard to pick up.. | 10:09 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah | 10:09 |
| AlexLatchford | asac: you flying out to Seville tomorrow? | 10:14 |
| asac | prog. concepts are important, but practice is still the single best way :) mozilla code might be tough to start with ;) ... but of course exciting. | 10:14 |
| AlexLatchford | yep | 10:15 |
| asac | AlexLatchford: yes | 10:15 |
| AlexLatchford | cool cool | 10:15 |
| AlexLatchford | I am getting the concept of the patching system now, its to allow patches to be abstracted from the core code.. | 10:16 |
| asac | good thing for mozilla is that there are various things you can do ... e.g. start with xul, javascript (chrome)... go to more complex javascript components ... then high-level C++ components and then core components :) | 10:16 |
| AlexLatchford | (Was unaware of that before) | 10:16 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah | 10:16 |
| asac | AlexLatchford: yes you might say it that way ... though it sound academic :) | 10:16 |
| AlexLatchford | I already know a fair amount of javascript | 10:16 |
| AlexLatchford | (I am like to sound posher than I really am lol) | 10:16 |
| AlexLatchford | sed -i '1 s/^/MUHAHA/' README | 10:17 |
| AlexLatchford | I dont really understand this line.. | 10:17 |
| asac | its just a line to change something | 10:17 |
| asac | e.g. replace that in your thoughts with editing README file | 10:17 |
| asac | or any other file you previously added to your patch | 10:17 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah, I figured it was replacing something, but it is to the README file.. cool | 10:18 |
| asac | because README was added further above i guess :) | 10:18 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm okay.. so this basically is allowing you to only change small sections at a time, 1/2 lines | 10:19 |
| asac | no you can change as much as you like :) | 10:19 |
| AlexLatchford | but you have to type it into the terminal? | 10:20 |
| asac | the sed commmand is just a synonym for "change as much in README file as you like" | 10:20 |
| AlexLatchford | or can you supply files as arguements? | 10:20 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm okay | 10:20 |
| asac | i hope you don't want me to explain sed? | 10:20 |
| AlexLatchford | I wont :) | 10:20 |
| asac | e.g. as it doesn't matter for this case ;) | 10:20 |
| AlexLatchford | I get the concept of sed :) | 10:21 |
| asac | just remember to add a file you want to change to the patch you want the changes to be included in | 10:21 |
| asac | then edit that file | 10:21 |
| asac | and do quilt refresh | 10:21 |
| asac | actually the quilt pop -a unapplies all changes at the end | 10:22 |
| asac | which is usually not what you want | 10:22 |
| AlexLatchford | ahhh, okay | 10:22 |
| asac | but its just a demonstration | 10:22 |
| asac | you can push them all | 10:22 |
| asac | or just push some | 10:22 |
| AlexLatchford | yes I see | 10:22 |
| asac | or delete a patch you don't want anymore | 10:22 |
| AlexLatchford | yes | 10:22 |
| asac | e.g. pop - unapply ... push - apply | 10:22 |
| AlexLatchford | yep | 10:22 |
| asac | http://www.xulplanet.com/ | 10:23 |
| asac | http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XUL | 10:23 |
| asac | those are good places to start with | 10:23 |
| asac | probably firs the mozilla link | 10:23 |
| asac | then the xulplanet as kind of api reference | 10:23 |
| AlexLatchford | thanks :) | 10:24 |
| asac | http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Main_Page | 10:24 |
| asac | thats the mainpage of course :) | 10:24 |
| asac | btw, mozilla guy finally came to blog about our patch approval :) | 10:29 |
| asac | http://steelgryphon.com/blog/?p=100 | 10:29 |
| asac | its the blog of mike connor ... owner of the firefox code module in mozilla tree | 10:29 |
| asac | http://www.mozilla.org/owners.html | 10:29 |
| asac | good place to see what magnitude the mozilla project has :) | 10:30 |
| AlexLatchford | nice | 10:31 |
| bluekuja | asac: is possible to optimize javascripts fonts in mozilla? | 10:34 |
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| AlexLatchford | asac: hehe, working nicely | 10:39 |
| AlexLatchford | simple little tool that.. | 10:40 |
| asac | bluekuja: dunno what you mean by "javascripts fonts" | 11:03 |
| bluekuja | asac: a guy reported that when a java application is open in firefox, fonts are quite unreadable | 11:04 |
| bluekuja | so he asked if is possible to change/modify them | 11:04 |
| bluekuja | *it's | 11:05 |
| asac | so ... java is not javascript | 11:06 |
| asac | java applets have their own fonts | 11:07 |
| asac | i am the wrong guy to ask about how they do integrate with mozilla | 11:07 |
| asac | aeh with ubuntu | 11:07 |
| asac | ;) | 11:07 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: the branch urls have changed ... bughelper code was moved to new team realm "~bughelper". cluefiles are still at ~bugsquad | 11:18 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: just read of proposed mentorees in bts | 11:19 |
| Admiral_Chicago | asac: i saw that on the ML, i'll review them soon | 11:38 |
| Admiral_Chicago | and let people know that soon | 11:39 |
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| asac | Admiral_Chicago: fine | 12:11 |
| asac | lets see how this works out :) ... i am excited ;) | 12:11 |
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