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tgm4883_laptop | anyone use mytharchive or mythvideo? | 01:03 |
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Daviey | mythvideo yes | 01:04 |
Daviey | mytharchieve is boke 4 me | 01:04 |
Daviey | vroke | 01:05 |
Daviey | bloody fingers | 01:05 |
Daviey | BROKE | 01:05 |
tgm4883_laptop | so it works for you ;) | 01:06 |
tgm4883_laptop | do you use the internel player for mythvideo? | 01:06 |
Daviey | yes | 01:07 |
Daviey | prefer it persoannly | 01:07 |
tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 01:07 |
tgm4883_laptop | im having trouble with it | 01:07 |
tgm4883_laptop | is there a log file for mythvideo? | 01:07 |
Daviey | is it appearing at all? | 01:07 |
tgm4883_laptop | yea and i can play my dvd iso's in it, but not avi or wmv | 01:08 |
Daviey | hmm | 01:08 |
tgm4883_laptop | and im pretty sure i installed those codecs | 01:08 |
Daviey | don't think you need to | 01:08 |
Daviey | in mythvideo settings - do you have custom player seetings for different filetypes? | 01:09 |
tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 01:10 |
tgm4883_laptop | well mpg says "internal" under command | 01:10 |
tgm4883_laptop | default not checked | 01:10 |
Daviey | ahh | 01:10 |
Daviey | there is your problem | 01:10 |
Daviey | you need "Internal" | 01:10 |
Daviey | cap I | 01:10 |
tgm4883_laptop | avi has default checked | 01:10 |
tgm4883_laptop | err, my bad | 01:11 |
tgm4883_laptop | has the cap I | 01:11 |
Daviey | hmm | 01:11 |
tgm4883_laptop | should avi be the default player? and have anything under command? | 01:11 |
Daviey | yeah | 01:11 |
tgm4883_laptop | cause its the only one thats different | 01:12 |
Daviey | if default player = Internal | 01:12 |
tgm4883_laptop | (well i dont have an entry for wmv) | 01:12 |
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Daviey | then it doesn't matter if you have it ticked or type Internal as a custom player | 01:12 |
tgm4883_laptop | ok | 01:12 |
tgm4883_laptop | i think the default is Internal | 01:13 |
tgm4883_laptop | im looking through the menus where would i find the default player? | 01:14 |
Daviey | Setup->Media Settings->video settings | 01:15 |
Daviey | Player settings | 01:15 |
tgm4883_laptop | ok so that is the default player that its talking about | 01:15 |
Daviey | yes | 01:15 |
tgm4883_laptop | which is also the internal player? | 01:15 |
Daviey | Internal :) | 01:15 |
tgm4883_laptop | Internal player | 01:16 |
tgm4883_laptop | I gotta remember that | 01:16 |
tgm4883_laptop | which is mplayer | 01:16 |
Daviey | change that to 'Internal' | 01:16 |
Daviey | (with no parameters) | 01:16 |
tgm4883_laptop | Internal | 01:16 |
tgm4883_laptop | not mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s | 01:17 |
tgm4883_laptop | awesome, it plays | 01:18 |
Daviey | :) | 01:18 |
tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 01:19 |
tgm4883_laptop | i suppose i need to make an entry for wmv | 01:19 |
tgm4883_laptop | as it just crashed my frontend | 01:19 |
Daviey | don't know if Internal supports wmv | 01:19 |
Daviey | that will probably need a 'custom' setting of mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s | 01:19 |
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Daviey | you also won't be able to play MKV or DV files using the Internal player | 01:20 |
tgm4883_laptop | guess not | 01:21 |
tgm4883_laptop | i will just rerip them | 01:21 |
Daviey | hmm | 01:21 |
tgm4883_laptop | i encoded those back when i was trying to use my 360 to play movies | 01:21 |
Daviey | why re-encode them? | 01:22 |
tgm4883_laptop | theres not that many | 01:22 |
Daviey | and not just have a File Association for those that Internal can't support | 01:22 |
Daviey | Each time you encode a video it is inevitable that there will be a slight loss in quality | 01:23 |
Daviey | YMMV | 01:23 |
tgm4883_laptop | true, but not if i rerip from the dvd | 01:23 |
tgm4883_laptop | well | 01:23 |
Daviey | fair nuff | 01:23 |
tgm4883_laptop | i will lose quality from the dvd | 01:23 |
Daviey | didn't realise you had the dvd | 01:23 |
tgm4883_laptop | yes, i am one of the few that still owns his dvd's yet keeps them on his server | 01:24 |
Daviey | Anyway - i'm off to bed | 01:24 |
Daviey | ttfn | 01:24 |
tgm4883_laptop | thanks Daviey | 01:24 |
tgm4883_laptop | c-ya | 01:24 |
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williammanda | help! | 01:34 |
williammanda | i can't login into phpadmin | 01:34 |
williammanda | user = root & password = blank.....i didn't change the root password | 01:36 |
williammanda | wake up! | 01:51 |
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williammanda | mega...do you know anything about phpadmin... | 02:05 |
williammanda | i can't login into phpadmin | 02:05 |
williammanda | user = root & password = blank.....i didn't change the root password | 02:05 |
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rogue780 | hey | 09:16 |
rogue780 | I've got a problem that noone in #ubuntu seems to know how to help with, or wants to help with or whatnot | 09:16 |
rogue780 | I'm having a problem with apt | 09:16 |
Daviey | shoot | 09:20 |
rogue780 | I'm having an problem with APT. I installed vmware-player an every time since when I try to use apt to install anything it tried to continue installing vmware. I've tried removing vmware and I get the same problem. I don't know what to do. the apt output is at http://www.pastebin.ca/471116 please help | 09:23 |
rogue780 | I may have just fixed it though | 09:23 |
rogue780 | testing it as we type | 09:23 |
Daviey | sorted? | 09:25 |
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Daviey | evenin' | 09:25 |
DaveMorris | evening | 09:25 |
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rogue780 | sorted? | 09:29 |
rogue780 | nope problem not fixed | 09:29 |
Daviey | sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player | 09:30 |
rogue780 | nope | 09:32 |
rogue780 | can I flood? | 09:32 |
rogue780 | http://www.pastebin.ca/471167 | 09:34 |
Daviey | pastebin would be better | 09:34 |
DaveMorris | grrr, I can't change the topic | 09:34 |
Daviey | sudo apt-get remove --purge --force vmware-player ? | 09:34 |
Daviey | DaveMorris, why do you want to? | 09:34 |
DaveMorris | can someone that can, please put it a title and a link to paste bin | 09:35 |
DaveMorris | maybe a link to the site, and a msg saying the channel is logged, now we have the bot in here | 09:35 |
Daviey | should do really | 09:35 |
Daviey | i'm not an op | 09:36 |
Daviey | :`( | 09:36 |
DaveMorris | dislikes channels where you need to be an op to change topic | 09:36 |
rogue780 | there do be no force option | 09:37 |
Daviey | rogue780, sorry try -f | 09:38 |
rogue780 | did that too | 09:38 |
rogue780 | same problem | 09:38 |
DaveMorris | whats the problem? | 09:39 |
rogue780 | is there a cache file somewhere that I can just delete a line from and make apt forget vmware exists? i want to use vmware...but I want to use apt without it hanging for several minutes too | 09:39 |
rogue780 | <rogue780> I'm having an problem with APT. I installed vmware-player an every time since when I try to use apt to install anything it tried to continue installing vmware. I've tried removing vmware and I get the same problem. I don't know what to do. the apt output is at http://www.pastebin.ca/471116 please help | 09:39 |
Daviey | sudo dpkg --force-remove vmware-player ? | 09:39 |
rogue780 | dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `remove' | 09:40 |
rogue780 | -r | 09:40 |
DaveMorris | I had this problem at work, now how did I solve it | 09:40 |
Daviey | DaveMorris, i had exactly the same problem with vmplayer! | 09:40 |
Daviey | sudo aptitude -f remove vmware-player | 09:42 |
rogue780 | also...anyone know where I can find a file with the boot-up text that's under uslpash? | 09:42 |
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rogue780 | well it's simple apt-get has super cow powers and aptitude doesn't have super cow powers | 09:43 |
rogue780 | nope, won't let me remove | 09:43 |
DaveMorris | its something like dpkg --purge --force <package-name> | 09:43 |
rogue780 | !@#! | 09:47 |
DaveMorris | rogue780: Still dosen't work | 09:48 |
rogue780 | neg | 09:49 |
DaveMorris | I assume you tried what I gave with remove instead of purge | 09:49 |
Daviey | apt-get --fix-broken install vmware-player ? | 09:50 |
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rogue780 | no luck. it's the damn configuration of vmware... | 09:53 |
rogue780 | aQE!@#EFEREBVWRQage@$@#$!$!@#!!!! | 09:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | would the clean switch help? | 09:54 |
rogue780 | clean was the first thing I tried | 09:54 |
tgm4883_laptop | ah | 09:54 |
rogue780 | but that just goes to show great minds think alike | 09:54 |
rogue780 | too bad this mind doesn't have super cow powers | 09:54 |
tgm4883_laptop | you installed from the repos right? | 09:55 |
rogue780 | yes | 09:56 |
rogue780 | hey, lil off topic of our offtopic...but have ya'll heard of the alky project? | 09:56 |
rogue780 | http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/ | 09:56 |
tgm4883_laptop | have you tried using dselect? | 09:58 |
rogue780 | tried....got confused | 09:58 |
tgm4883_laptop | what part? | 09:59 |
rogue780 | it's just new...wasn't sure what to do | 10:00 |
tgm4883_laptop | ok, what if you forced the install to get past the errors, then uninstalled? | 10:04 |
rogue780 | so sudo apt-get install -f vmware-player? | 10:07 |
tgm4883_laptop | actually i dont think apt-get has a force install command | 10:10 |
tgm4883_laptop | i think you need to download the same version of vmplayer in a .deb file (probably just use the download switch of apt-get) then force the install through dpkg | 10:13 |
rogue780 | I'm just going to light my laptop on fire | 10:14 |
rogue780 | give it a viking funeral | 10:14 |
rogue780 | do you know where apt-get keeps the record of what it's trying to install? if I can just remove references to vmware from it, it should fix my problem | 10:15 |
rogue780 | since vmware works when I use it...it just boggs down apt when I try to use that | 10:15 |
Daviey | aptitude has force | 10:18 |
rogue780 | brb | 10:18 |
tgm4883_laptop | as i dont' have any partially installed packages to verify this, and I am in no way affilliated with the developers of apt, I can not support this or what you do with it | 10:20 |
tgm4883_laptop | but check /var/cache/apt | 10:20 |
rogue780 | rgr | 10:21 |
rogue780 | worst comes to worst I'll reinstall feisty | 10:21 |
tgm4883_laptop | ok then, as long as you have a plan | 10:21 |
tgm4883_laptop | id check out /var/cache/apt/archives/partial first | 10:22 |
tgm4883_laptop | Is there something that we could do to make myth-frontend not require mythtv-backend AND not need a backend available on the network? | 10:23 |
tgm4883_laptop | or would that fall farther upstream? | 10:23 |
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tgm4883_laptop | ha, just the guy to ask | 10:23 |
rogue780 | what do you mean? | 10:23 |
rogue780 | indeed. perfect timing | 10:23 |
tgm4883_laptop | superm1 | 10:24 |
tgm4883_laptop | Is there something that we could do to make myth-frontend not require mythtv-backend AND not need a backend available on the network? | 10:24 |
superm1 | Hm. | 10:24 |
DaveMorris | what would be the poing of it tgm4883_laptop ? | 10:24 |
tgm4883_laptop | (im told) currently if there isn't a backend on the network (reachable from the frontend) that it throws errors | 10:24 |
superm1 | well there is a way to do it | 10:24 |
superm1 | mysql needs to be configured first though | 10:24 |
superm1 | and (obviously) media library/recordings and live tv wont work | 10:25 |
tgm4883_laptop | if they didn't need the pvr functionality | 10:25 |
tgm4883_laptop | exactly | 10:25 |
superm1 | but mythvideo, mythdvd would work | 10:25 |
superm1 | because they just look up SQL information | 10:25 |
superm1 | there would be errors about not being able to contact the backend when quitting though too | 10:25 |
tgm4883_laptop | ah | 10:25 |
superm1 | because (for some reason) myth connects to the backend when quitting | 10:26 |
DaveMorris | where would it grab the files from for mythvideo/music ? | 10:26 |
superm1 | its all stored in mysql | 10:26 |
rogue780 | superm1, that is so that the backend will release any tuner cards that the front end has seized | 10:26 |
tgm4883_laptop | There is a discussion going on in the gutsy development forums about adding a media center | 10:26 |
tgm4883_laptop | a couple have been thrown into the pit | 10:27 |
tgm4883_laptop | i threw in mythtv | 10:27 |
superm1 | well myth could work, but there would be a lot of preconfiguration necessary to do it without a backend | 10:27 |
bendailey | what else has been tossed in? | 10:27 |
rogue780 | indeed. freevo might be a better option | 10:27 |
superm1 | lots of automation in terms of what mythtv-setup does would need to be done | 10:27 |
tgm4883_laptop | elisa, and linuxmce | 10:27 |
superm1 | ellisa i'm sure was thrown | 10:27 |
tgm4883_laptop | freevo i think was there too | 10:28 |
superm1 | linux mce would be the same troubles i'd think because it requires lots of configuration does it not? | 10:28 |
tgm4883_laptop | a main concern was with the complicated setup (a common downside everyone sees with mythtv) and i haven't looked to hard into elisa, but linuxmce does require a lot of config | 10:29 |
Daviey | Wouldn't watching prior made recordings also work, if the nfs share is mounted in the same location? | 10:29 |
tgm4883_laptop | linuxmce is far more that what i think is wanted | 10:29 |
rogue780 | well, not to be the bearer of bad news...but linux in general requires a lot of config | 10:29 |
bendailey | I am pretty sure linxumce just wraps around mythtv for much of its video/tv | 10:29 |
rogue780 | except ubuntu | 10:29 |
DaveMorris | easiest way would be to pop a stripped down mythtbackend running on the CD, that didn't do much | 10:29 |
tgm4883_laptop | linuxmce grabs a lot of what it does from plutohome (actually, i think it is generally just a ripoff) and I think plutohome gets that from mythtv | 10:30 |
rogue780 | shuttleworth should get involved in the development of a media center app | 10:30 |
tgm4883_laptop | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424826 | 10:30 |
tgm4883_laptop | theres the link if anyone wants to toss there hat in the ring | 10:31 |
superm1 | Well not to say myth "cant" be adapted and simplified for this purpose | 10:32 |
superm1 | i've thought about that | 10:32 |
tgm4883_laptop | its a little comedic how they complain about the setup of mythtv, then turn around and say that there current setup had a lot of setup to get going | 10:32 |
superm1 | during package install, detecting cards and such | 10:32 |
superm1 | and trying to preconfigure as much as possible | 10:32 |
superm1 | /sys and /proc can provide a lot of information to populate good defaults for a machine | 10:33 |
DaveMorris | any ISO's for me to test yet Daviey? | 10:33 |
Daviey | superm1, had your last final today? | 10:33 |
Daviey | DaveMorris, no :( | 10:33 |
superm1 | yup Daviey finished up a few hours ago | 10:33 |
Daviey | good? | 10:33 |
tgm4883_laptop | im wondering (and stop me if this is too much) if there can't be a package (mythtv-standalone-frontend or something) that doesn't require a backend or mysql (perhaps it could store info like amarok in sqlite) that way not much setup is needed on the user end | 10:33 |
superm1 | i wouldnt say "well" but I think i should get a fairly average grade | 10:34 |
DaveMorris | np, just means I'll work on other things - I think I'm overloading myself with work, but I wanna get my name out tehre to get a better paid job next summer | 10:34 |
rogue780 | can Elisa support a distributed architecture like mythtv does? | 10:34 |
superm1 | DaveMorris, this next week i'll add the ISO building process to our server | 10:35 |
superm1 | so we should at least have a basic ISO that goes without the final installer | 10:35 |
superm1 | now that i have finals done with and such | 10:35 |
superm1 | tgm4883_laptop, the problem with a package like that, what happens when you want to "add" a backend | 10:35 |
tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 10:36 |
DaveMorris | I wonder how easy it'll be to keep on unplugging my frontends hard drive to test a new installation with another drive | 10:36 |
Daviey | superm1, should we move the bzr branch to mythbuntu, and have launchpad point upstream? | 10:36 |
DaveMorris | I should write a latter to VIA asking for some mini-itx boards to develope with for them | 10:36 |
tgm4883_laptop | could mythtv-backend detect that package, remove it, install the regular frontend and not touch the config files? | 10:37 |
superm1 | Daviey, i was planning on doing that as soon as the artwork was accepted | 10:37 |
superm1 | do a nice clean branch | 10:37 |
superm1 | that doesnt require a 143 meg checkout | 10:37 |
Daviey | superm1, i don't think it will *ever* be accepted! | 10:37 |
superm1 | lol | 10:37 |
superm1 | i got it looked over again yesterday | 10:37 |
Daviey | it's got two ACKS now | 10:37 |
superm1 | need one more +1 | 10:37 |
superm1 | and then will be good | 10:37 |
superm1 | it has one | 10:38 |
superm1 | since the last upload | 10:38 |
rogue780 | ACKS? | 10:38 |
superm1 | acknowledgments from the MOTU | 10:38 |
rogue780 | MOTU? | 10:38 |
rogue780 | moderators of the ubuntu? | 10:38 |
superm1 | Maintainers of the Universe. people with upload rights such as imbrandon and keescook and others in -motu | 10:38 |
Daviey | Masters of the universe repository | 10:38 |
rogue780 | ah | 10:38 |
Daviey | superm1, don't expect anything new for the next week - Ubucon. | 10:39 |
tgm4883_laptop | if you need someone to install mythbuntu on a spare machine, i have just they guy, and he loves to reinstall things | 10:39 |
tgm4883_laptop | ;) | 10:39 |
superm1 | regarding auto configuration. i havent put any work towards it because i dont want to step on upstream's steps. http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/auto-configuration | 10:39 |
superm1 | Daviey, when does ubucon start? | 10:40 |
Daviey | tommorow? | 10:40 |
rogue780 | I have a few extra boxes laying around for testing | 10:40 |
Daviey | Sunday rather | 10:40 |
superm1 | okay well all day tomorrow i'll hang around -motu and hopefully catch someone that can look it over | 10:41 |
superm1 | all these people ready for testing already :) we still need this installer finished...... hehe | 10:41 |
Daviey | superm1, what do you think about adding auto xvid encoding? | 10:42 |
tgm4883_laptop | ah installers are overrated | 10:42 |
superm1 | Daviey, automatic? | 10:42 |
superm1 | how so? | 10:42 |
Daviey | brb | 10:43 |
tgm4883_laptop | well, off to fix some computers, back later | 10:43 |
superm1 | see ya tgm4883_laptop | 10:44 |
rogue780 | I've got SkyOS on one of my machines. it's actually pretty nice | 10:45 |
superm1 | rogue780, http://www.skyos.org/ ? | 10:46 |
superm1 | looks pretty slick | 10:47 |
rogue780 | superm1, yup | 10:47 |
rogue780 | a lot of stuff's been ported so far... GTK+ is coming along pretty well | 10:48 |
rogue780 | I'm developing an IRC client for it....unfortunatley python/tk hasn't been ported yet | 10:48 |
superm1 | ah their site runs drupal | 10:50 |
rogue780 | drupal? | 10:50 |
superm1 | same thing www.mythbuntu.org is running | 10:51 |
rogue780 | ah | 10:51 |
rogue780 | is our site up yet? | 10:51 |
superm1 | click the link | 10:51 |
rogue780 | nic | 10:52 |
rogue780 | e | 10:52 |
superm1 | need to finish it up yet next week | 10:52 |
superm1 | rogue780, proprietary os though - so thats gonna mean very little drivers ported to it | 10:54 |
superm1 | i'll be staying away from that more than likely | 10:54 |
rogue780 | it's got limited linux driver compatibility. will have complete when it's finished | 10:54 |
rogue780 | according to robert anyway | 10:55 |
rogue780 | it'll be 100% posix compliant too | 10:55 |
rogue780 | it's kind of amazing...the OS has one developer pretty much | 10:56 |
superm1 | he'll get a lot more support out of the community if it was opened up i'd think - but who am i to say | 11:02 |
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rogue780 | superm1, what was the last message that you got from me? | 11:14 |
Daviey | rogue780, i last got "<rogue780> it's kind of amazing...the OS has one developer pretty much" | 11:20 |
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