=== hugolp [n=jo@89.129.160.174] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.160.174] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:03] anyone use mytharchive or mythvideo? [01:04] mythvideo yes [01:04] mytharchieve is boke 4 me [01:05] vroke [01:05] bloody fingers [01:05] BROKE [01:06] so it works for you ;) [01:06] do you use the internel player for mythvideo? [01:07] yes [01:07] prefer it persoannly [01:07] hmm [01:07] im having trouble with it [01:07] is there a log file for mythvideo? [01:07] is it appearing at all? [01:08] yea and i can play my dvd iso's in it, but not avi or wmv [01:08] hmm [01:08] and im pretty sure i installed those codecs [01:08] don't think you need to [01:09] in mythvideo settings - do you have custom player seetings for different filetypes? [01:10] hmm [01:10] well mpg says "internal" under command [01:10] default not checked [01:10] ahh [01:10] there is your problem [01:10] you need "Internal" [01:10] cap I [01:10] avi has default checked [01:11] err, my bad [01:11] has the cap I [01:11] hmm [01:11] should avi be the default player? and have anything under command? [01:11] yeah [01:12] cause its the only one thats different [01:12] if default player = Internal [01:12] (well i dont have an entry for wmv) === tgm4883_laptop shrugs [01:12] then it doesn't matter if you have it ticked or type Internal as a custom player [01:12] ok [01:13] i think the default is Internal [01:14] im looking through the menus where would i find the default player? [01:15] Setup->Media Settings->video settings [01:15] Player settings [01:15] ok so that is the default player that its talking about [01:15] yes [01:15] which is also the internal player? [01:15] Internal :) [01:16] Internal player [01:16] I gotta remember that [01:16] which is mplayer [01:16] change that to 'Internal' [01:16] (with no parameters) [01:16] Internal [01:17] not mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s [01:18] awesome, it plays [01:18] :) [01:19] hmm [01:19] i suppose i need to make an entry for wmv [01:19] as it just crashed my frontend [01:19] don't know if Internal supports wmv [01:19] that will probably need a 'custom' setting of mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s === Daviey has never needed to play wmv [01:20] you also won't be able to play MKV or DV files using the Internal player [01:21] guess not [01:21] i will just rerip them [01:21] hmm [01:21] i encoded those back when i was trying to use my 360 to play movies [01:22] why re-encode them? [01:22] theres not that many [01:22] and not just have a File Association for those that Internal can't support [01:23] Each time you encode a video it is inevitable that there will be a slight loss in quality [01:23] YMMV [01:23] true, but not if i rerip from the dvd [01:23] well [01:23] fair nuff [01:23] i will lose quality from the dvd [01:23] didn't realise you had the dvd [01:24] yes, i am one of the few that still owns his dvd's yet keeps them on his server [01:24] Anyway - i'm off to bed [01:24] ttfn [01:24] thanks Daviey [01:24] c-ya === williammanda [n=william@c-68-53-201-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:34] help! [01:34] i can't login into phpadmin [01:36] user = root & password = blank.....i didn't change the root password [01:51] wake up! === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:05] mega...do you know anything about phpadmin... [02:05] i can't login into phpadmin [02:05] user = root & password = blank.....i didn't change the root password === [g2] [n=tom@nslu2-linux/g2] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883_@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Rtax [n=n@196.209.156.24] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FE91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Daviey is now known as TheDaviey === TheDaviey is now known as Daviey === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === bendailey [n=bendaile@mail.bhmsd.k12.in.us] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono_ [n=jono@195.55.82.66] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === illern [n=illern@c83-252-239-167.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.160.174] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.160.174] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Rtax [n=n@196.209.156.24] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.160.174] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jams [n=jams@CPE-72-131-6-174.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-135.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === rogue780 [n=rogue780@c-68-49-53-29.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:16] hey [09:16] I've got a problem that noone in #ubuntu seems to know how to help with, or wants to help with or whatnot [09:16] I'm having a problem with apt [09:20] shoot [09:23] I'm having an problem with APT. I installed vmware-player an every time since when I try to use apt to install anything it tried to continue installing vmware. I've tried removing vmware and I get the same problem. I don't know what to do. the apt output is at http://www.pastebin.ca/471116 please help [09:23] I may have just fixed it though [09:23] testing it as we type [09:25] sorted? === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:25] evenin' [09:25] evening === cropalat [n=cropalat@200.223.24.34] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:29] sorted? [09:29] nope problem not fixed [09:30] sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player [09:32] nope [09:32] can I flood? [09:34] http://www.pastebin.ca/471167 [09:34] pastebin would be better [09:34] grrr, I can't change the topic [09:34] sudo apt-get remove --purge --force vmware-player ? [09:34] DaveMorris, why do you want to? [09:35] can someone that can, please put it a title and a link to paste bin [09:35] maybe a link to the site, and a msg saying the channel is logged, now we have the bot in here [09:35] should do really [09:36] i'm not an op [09:36] :`( [09:36] dislikes channels where you need to be an op to change topic [09:37] there do be no force option [09:38] rogue780, sorry try -f [09:38] did that too [09:38] same problem [09:39] whats the problem? [09:39] is there a cache file somewhere that I can just delete a line from and make apt forget vmware exists? i want to use vmware...but I want to use apt without it hanging for several minutes too [09:39] I'm having an problem with APT. I installed vmware-player an every time since when I try to use apt to install anything it tried to continue installing vmware. I've tried removing vmware and I get the same problem. I don't know what to do. the apt output is at http://www.pastebin.ca/471116 please help [09:39] sudo dpkg --force-remove vmware-player ? [09:40] dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `remove' [09:40] -r [09:40] I had this problem at work, now how did I solve it [09:40] DaveMorris, i had exactly the same problem with vmplayer! [09:42] sudo aptitude -f remove vmware-player [09:42] also...anyone know where I can find a file with the boot-up text that's under uslpash? === Daviey is always getting confused between aptitude and apt-get [09:43] well it's simple apt-get has super cow powers and aptitude doesn't have super cow powers [09:43] nope, won't let me remove [09:43] its something like dpkg --purge --force [09:47] !@#! [09:48] rogue780: Still dosen't work [09:49] neg [09:49] I assume you tried what I gave with remove instead of purge [09:50] apt-get --fix-broken install vmware-player ? === Daviey is looking at the source for his favourite apt wrapper [09:53] no luck. it's the damn configuration of vmware... [09:53] aQE!@#EFEREBVWRQage@$@#$!$!@#!!!! [09:54] would the clean switch help? [09:54] clean was the first thing I tried [09:54] ah [09:54] but that just goes to show great minds think alike [09:54] too bad this mind doesn't have super cow powers [09:55] you installed from the repos right? [09:56] yes [09:56] hey, lil off topic of our offtopic...but have ya'll heard of the alky project? [09:56] http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/ [09:58] have you tried using dselect? [09:58] tried....got confused [09:59] what part? [10:00] it's just new...wasn't sure what to do [10:04] ok, what if you forced the install to get past the errors, then uninstalled? [10:07] so sudo apt-get install -f vmware-player? [10:10] actually i dont think apt-get has a force install command [10:13] i think you need to download the same version of vmplayer in a .deb file (probably just use the download switch of apt-get) then force the install through dpkg [10:14] I'm just going to light my laptop on fire [10:14] give it a viking funeral [10:15] do you know where apt-get keeps the record of what it's trying to install? if I can just remove references to vmware from it, it should fix my problem [10:15] since vmware works when I use it...it just boggs down apt when I try to use that [10:18] aptitude has force [10:18] brb [10:20] as i dont' have any partially installed packages to verify this, and I am in no way affilliated with the developers of apt, I can not support this or what you do with it [10:20] but check /var/cache/apt [10:21] rgr [10:21] worst comes to worst I'll reinstall feisty [10:21] ok then, as long as you have a plan [10:22] id check out /var/cache/apt/archives/partial first [10:23] Is there something that we could do to make myth-frontend not require mythtv-backend AND not need a backend available on the network? [10:23] or would that fall farther upstream? === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:23] ha, just the guy to ask [10:23] what do you mean? [10:23] indeed. perfect timing [10:24] superm1 [10:24] Is there something that we could do to make myth-frontend not require mythtv-backend AND not need a backend available on the network? [10:24] Hm. [10:24] what would be the poing of it tgm4883_laptop ? [10:24] (im told) currently if there isn't a backend on the network (reachable from the frontend) that it throws errors [10:24] well there is a way to do it [10:24] mysql needs to be configured first though [10:25] and (obviously) media library/recordings and live tv wont work [10:25] if they didn't need the pvr functionality [10:25] exactly [10:25] but mythvideo, mythdvd would work [10:25] because they just look up SQL information [10:25] there would be errors about not being able to contact the backend when quitting though too [10:25] ah [10:26] because (for some reason) myth connects to the backend when quitting [10:26] where would it grab the files from for mythvideo/music ? [10:26] its all stored in mysql [10:26] superm1, that is so that the backend will release any tuner cards that the front end has seized [10:26] There is a discussion going on in the gutsy development forums about adding a media center [10:27] a couple have been thrown into the pit [10:27] i threw in mythtv [10:27] well myth could work, but there would be a lot of preconfiguration necessary to do it without a backend [10:27] what else has been tossed in? [10:27] indeed. freevo might be a better option [10:27] lots of automation in terms of what mythtv-setup does would need to be done [10:27] elisa, and linuxmce [10:27] ellisa i'm sure was thrown [10:28] freevo i think was there too [10:28] linux mce would be the same troubles i'd think because it requires lots of configuration does it not? [10:29] a main concern was with the complicated setup (a common downside everyone sees with mythtv) and i haven't looked to hard into elisa, but linuxmce does require a lot of config [10:29] Wouldn't watching prior made recordings also work, if the nfs share is mounted in the same location? [10:29] linuxmce is far more that what i think is wanted [10:29] well, not to be the bearer of bad news...but linux in general requires a lot of config [10:29] I am pretty sure linxumce just wraps around mythtv for much of its video/tv [10:29] except ubuntu [10:29] easiest way would be to pop a stripped down mythtbackend running on the CD, that didn't do much [10:30] linuxmce grabs a lot of what it does from plutohome (actually, i think it is generally just a ripoff) and I think plutohome gets that from mythtv [10:30] shuttleworth should get involved in the development of a media center app [10:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424826 [10:31] theres the link if anyone wants to toss there hat in the ring [10:32] Well not to say myth "cant" be adapted and simplified for this purpose [10:32] i've thought about that [10:32] its a little comedic how they complain about the setup of mythtv, then turn around and say that there current setup had a lot of setup to get going [10:32] during package install, detecting cards and such [10:32] and trying to preconfigure as much as possible [10:33] /sys and /proc can provide a lot of information to populate good defaults for a machine [10:33] any ISO's for me to test yet Daviey? [10:33] superm1, had your last final today? [10:33] DaveMorris, no :( [10:33] yup Daviey finished up a few hours ago [10:33] good? [10:33] im wondering (and stop me if this is too much) if there can't be a package (mythtv-standalone-frontend or something) that doesn't require a backend or mysql (perhaps it could store info like amarok in sqlite) that way not much setup is needed on the user end [10:34] i wouldnt say "well" but I think i should get a fairly average grade [10:34] np, just means I'll work on other things - I think I'm overloading myself with work, but I wanna get my name out tehre to get a better paid job next summer [10:34] can Elisa support a distributed architecture like mythtv does? [10:35] DaveMorris, this next week i'll add the ISO building process to our server [10:35] so we should at least have a basic ISO that goes without the final installer [10:35] now that i have finals done with and such [10:35] tgm4883_laptop, the problem with a package like that, what happens when you want to "add" a backend [10:36] hmm [10:36] I wonder how easy it'll be to keep on unplugging my frontends hard drive to test a new installation with another drive [10:36] superm1, should we move the bzr branch to mythbuntu, and have launchpad point upstream? [10:36] I should write a latter to VIA asking for some mini-itx boards to develope with for them [10:37] could mythtv-backend detect that package, remove it, install the regular frontend and not touch the config files? [10:37] Daviey, i was planning on doing that as soon as the artwork was accepted [10:37] do a nice clean branch [10:37] that doesnt require a 143 meg checkout [10:37] superm1, i don't think it will *ever* be accepted! [10:37] lol [10:37] i got it looked over again yesterday [10:37] it's got two ACKS now [10:37] need one more +1 [10:37] and then will be good [10:38] it has one [10:38] since the last upload [10:38] ACKS? [10:38] acknowledgments from the MOTU [10:38] MOTU? [10:38] moderators of the ubuntu? [10:38] Maintainers of the Universe. people with upload rights such as imbrandon and keescook and others in -motu [10:38] Masters of the universe repository [10:38] ah [10:39] superm1, don't expect anything new for the next week - Ubucon. [10:39] if you need someone to install mythbuntu on a spare machine, i have just they guy, and he loves to reinstall things [10:39] ;) [10:39] regarding auto configuration. i havent put any work towards it because i dont want to step on upstream's steps. http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/auto-configuration [10:40] Daviey, when does ubucon start? [10:40] tommorow? [10:40] I have a few extra boxes laying around for testing [10:40] Sunday rather [10:41] okay well all day tomorrow i'll hang around -motu and hopefully catch someone that can look it over [10:41] all these people ready for testing already :) we still need this installer finished...... hehe [10:42] superm1, what do you think about adding auto xvid encoding? [10:42] ah installers are overrated [10:42] Daviey, automatic? [10:42] how so? [10:43] brb [10:43] well, off to fix some computers, back later [10:44] see ya tgm4883_laptop [10:45] I've got SkyOS on one of my machines. it's actually pretty nice [10:46] rogue780, http://www.skyos.org/ ? [10:47] looks pretty slick [10:47] superm1, yup [10:48] a lot of stuff's been ported so far... GTK+ is coming along pretty well [10:48] I'm developing an IRC client for it....unfortunatley python/tk hasn't been ported yet [10:50] ah their site runs drupal [10:50] drupal? [10:51] same thing www.mythbuntu.org is running [10:51] ah [10:51] is our site up yet? [10:51] click the link [10:52] nic [10:52] e [10:52] need to finish it up yet next week [10:54] rogue780, proprietary os though - so thats gonna mean very little drivers ported to it [10:54] i'll be staying away from that more than likely [10:54] it's got limited linux driver compatibility. will have complete when it's finished [10:55] according to robert anyway [10:55] it'll be 100% posix compliant too [10:56] it's kind of amazing...the OS has one developer pretty much [11:02] he'll get a lot more support out of the community if it was opened up i'd think - but who am i to say === rogue780 [n=rogue780@c-68-49-53-29.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:14] superm1, what was the last message that you got from me? 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