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godlesssigh.12:42
godlessWhat is the open office package called?12:42
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predaeusprobably openoffice.org for the whole suit and openoffice.org-writer for only the writer not sure12:44
predaeuscheck "apt-cache search openoffice | grep openoffice"12:44
predaeusgodless ^^^12:44
godlesspredaeus:   thanks12:49
godlessI used synaptic12:49
godlesspainfully slow on this older laptop though and I don't like it in general :)12:49
TheSheepthe way synaptic is designed makes it seem unresponsive12:50
predaeusthere is some java 6 in feisty, I think that's also faster than java 5 was.12:50
predaeusopenoffice runs on java IIRC12:50
TheSheeppredaeus: no, it does not12:50
TheSheeppredaeus: it can use java for macros and some plugins12:51
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predaeusTheSheep, hm ok probably was azureus then that I remember to start very slowly with the gnu java implementation12:53
TheSheeppredaeus: yes, azureus is all java12:54
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PiNEhow would i switch my system sounds to use an external sound card rather than the internal one which seems to be the default?01:18
godlesser.01:21
godless!dvd01:21
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:21
TheSheepgodless: problems?01:22
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serenecloudhiya, can someone off the top of their head name a lightweight media payer for xfce that has keyboard shortcut support?01:23
TheSheepvlc01:23
TheSheepmplayer01:23
sereneclouddoesn't have to do videos01:24
TheSheepmedia = videos ?01:24
serenecloudi'm thinking along the lines of xmms, but I can't find keuboard shortcuts for it01:24
serenecloudyes, I phrased the question badly01:24
TheSheepserenecloud: well, I use mpd and have mpc commands bound to xfce's shortucts01:24
serenecloudmpd is command line only?01:25
TheSheepserenecloud: no, mpd is a daemon, it just starts together with the system and has no interface at all01:26
TheSheepserenecloud: you use 'client' programs to control it -- there is a large number of them, mpc is a command-line client, gmpc a gui client, etc. I like Sonata personally, which is also a gui client01:27
TheSheepserenecloud: the advantage of using mpd is that you don't need to have the player open all the time01:27
TheSheepserenecloud: and you can log out and it still plays01:27
serenecloudsounds useful, but this will be on my laptop, which I'm always logged into01:29
TheSheepanywyas, I just set some keybindings in settings->keyboard settings to 'mpc --play', 'mpc --vol +10', 'mpc --next', etc.01:30
serenecloudok, will do01:31
serenecloudthanks :)01:31
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WriestCan someone help me plz01:55
TheSheep!ask | Wriest01:55
ubotuWriest: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:55
WriestI can't get my sound to work01:56
Wriest!where do I type that at01:57
WriestI got it01:57
TheSheepWriest: what sound card do you have?01:57
WriestSB Live 5.101:58
Wriestall I hear is a loud whistling noise01:58
TheSheepWriest: how did you try to test the sound?01:58
WriestI can't there's no speaker in the upper right corner01:59
Wriestit's works fine in windows xp01:59
TheSheepWriest: um... are you talking to someone else?02:00
Wriestno02:00
WriestI'm answering02:00
Wriestyou02:00
TheSheepWriest: can you tell me what program you used and what you did to get the sound?02:00
WriestI just installed Xbuntu 7.04 and tried to hear it when it starup but nothing02:01
Wriestjust a loud whistling noise02:01
TheSheepWriest: can you go into the 'Examples' directory and try running one of the media files there?02:02
Wriestyes02:02
TheSheepwhistling again?02:02
Wriestyes02:03
WriestI went into applications/settings and changed it to sblive but still nothing02:04
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TheSheepWriest: does this help in any way? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=6c80f9f8b40641b2e5f4730a69ed445e&t=42150702:07
WriestI don't have a speaker next to the clock though02:09
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TheSheepWriest: yes, you can add it02:11
Wriesthow02:11
TheSheepWriest: right-click on the panel, select 'add item', then look for volume control on the list02:11
TheSheepWriest: on xubuntu it's not a speaker icon -- it's more like a whistle02:12
Wriestoh ok02:12
Wriestnow02:12
TheSheepWriest: there is also this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16181702:13
WriestI did what it said still whistling02:13
amandacan anyone help me please?02:16
TheSheep!ask | amanda02:16
ubotuamanda: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:16
amandaI am getting texture corruption on open office02:16
amandajust at the top bar02:16
amandabut its annoying02:16
TheSheepamanda: what graphics card do you use?02:16
amandaintel i81002:16
Howdy125Wriest, unplug your mic also if you have one just to see if you're getting some kind of feed back.02:17
TheSheepamanda: is it always the same or does it change?02:17
amandawell if I move it around it corrupts more...02:17
amandano other applications do it02:18
amandaits weird02:18
TheSheepamanda: have you tried changing the icon theme?02:18
TheSheepamanda: in the openoffice02:18
amandahow do you change the icon theme?02:18
TheSheeptools ->options02:19
TheSheepthe from the tree select 'View'02:19
TheSheepyou have 'Icon style and size' there02:20
amandakk02:21
amandathankies02:21
TheSheepamanda: did it work?02:21
amandanot sure yet02:22
TheSheepsomehow I have little hope02:22
TheSheepI hate the intel graphic cards, there are always problems with them :(02:22
TheSheepamanda: you can try unchecking the "use hardware acceleration" option on that screen too02:23
Wriestok now I'm not getting the whistling noise anymore02:27
Wriestnow it sounds like the volume is real loud02:28
TheSheepWriest: try playing with the volume sliders02:29
TheSheepWriest: either click on that whistle icon, or run 'alsamixer' in a terminal02:29
Wriestok I unhooked my mic and that stop the whistling02:31
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Howdy125Wriest, should just diable the mic or turn down it's record lever .. I have no idea where those settings are though since I never use a mic .. someone here should know though I'm sure .. :)02:36
amandado you guys think reinstalling openoffice in synaptic would fix the texture corruption thing02:36
Howdy125disable*02:36
TheSheepamanda: I don't think so02:37
Jester45is there a way to make beryl smoother? like the framerate02:37
TheSheepamanda: it's probably some problem with OO using some graphical operations that are not well supported by your graphics card driver02:38
Howdy125amanda, why not try switching to vesa mode .. see if that clears things up.02:38
amandavesa... do I have to reconfig xorg to do that?02:39
Jester45amanda: do you have any special video drivers installed or effect options02:39
amandanah.. just regular install of xubuntu I have an intel i810 integrated graphics card02:39
TheSheep.oO( playing with bios settings of the card might help...)02:41
TheSheepmaybe...02:41
Howdy125What resolution are you currently running at amanda02:41
Wriestthanx everyone I still can't figure it out02:41
Jester45TheSheep: do you know how to access video card bios? i allways wanted to see what its got02:41
Wriestthanx for the patience02:41
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TheSheepJester45: I was rather thinking of the cmos settings02:42
TheSheepJester45: there are few graphics-related ones, like the graphics aperture size02:42
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Jester45so video cards dont really have a good bios themselfs02:43
TheSheepJester45: why, they have02:44
TheSheepJester45: what we call 'bios' here is just a build-in program for changing some build-in settings02:44
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TheSheepJester45: it's rather 'bios settings screen'02:45
TheSheepJester45: but graphic cards do have bios, as in the code that runs on them02:45
Jester45my bios does do anything with video card besides chooseing pci or agp02:46
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Jester45so no setting screen thats no fun02:46
Jester45but i guess it would be useles02:46
TheSheepJester45: that's better02:46
pianoboy3333I can choose front line under volume control, or raise my capture... audio help please?02:46
TheSheepJester45: it means you don't have to do additional work to make it work02:46
Jester45the only thing that you would want to cagne is the clock02:46
TheSheeppianoboy3333: open terminal, run 'alsamixer' and have fun02:47
Jester45TheSheep: i like tweaking or even looking at settings02:47
pianoboy3333TheSheep: good idea02:47
Jester45TheSheep: just to know whats going on02:47
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agentnewbwho ever that random person who was here yesterday thanks for the tip about blacklisted drivers02:48
agentnewbgot nvidia up and my wifi02:48
pianoboy3333TheSheep: that won't let me uhhh... play with the mic controls02:48
pianoboy3333the input controls, sorrry02:48
TheSheeppianoboy3333: there should be at least one channel for the mic02:48
pianoboy3333no...02:48
amandaback... sorry had to put some cloths on LOL02:48
amandaum 1024x786 75hz02:48
TheSheeppianoboy3333: hmm.. try 'aumix' then?02:48
agentnewbamanda: not bad, what card is it?02:49
Howdy125amanda, try 70 hz if you have the option .. see if it makes any difference.02:49
pianoboy3333TheSheep: no... stupid xubuntu live cd... I like gnome better...02:50
amandajust some piece of junk intel integrated i81002:50
pianoboy3333TheSheep: where are the xubuntu sound properties02:50
agentnewbamanda: hmm think one of my wind0ze friends use that. 75hz is kind of high02:50
Jester4560 is good also02:51
agentnewb60 is decent I mean most cards support it but be nice for more if you game02:52
amandaweird it wont let me use anything but default now02:52
Jester45i like 80 but idk why 60-80 look the same to me02:52
Jester45well gaming is diffrent02:52
amandasomeone needs to write some good open source hentai games for linux :D02:54
agentnewboh hey Jester few days ago I was whining about flash support on 64 bit processors but using ies4linux I don't get any crashes, I'm going to try firefox with flash under wine too02:54
TheSheeppianoboy3333: there is no gui for that02:55
agentnewbamanda: yeah but opensource artwork is lacking, most artists are assholes02:55
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amandayeah tell me about it... my sis in an "artist"02:56
pianoboy3333TheSheep: ok02:56
amandawe just say she is very "autistic"02:56
amandaXD02:56
pianoboy3333TheSheep: I think I should... go to gnome02:56
TheSheepamanda: most good h games will work in dosbox02:56
pianoboy3333lol02:56
agentnewbamanda: heh yeah just want to watermark, subtitle and embed their "kool signatures" into everything with the gayest formats02:56
amandawell I have a lot for windows02:57
amandabut they don't run under wine02:57
amanda:/02:57
agentnewbyeah I was just checking out dosbox it solved a few problems for some older windows software02:57
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agentnewbodd xubuntu channel is like always at 78 when I'm here02:58
Howdy125After 80 people start getting banned. ;-)02:59
agentnewbnah if they did get banned I would probably be top on that list02:59
Howdy125:)03:00
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soberonGood afternoon... In xubuntu How can I browse and share files in a home net?... I used sm4k in kubuntu; there is some like these? Thanks in advances03:00
agentnewbTheSheep: you not an artist you a conartist =P03:01
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agentnewbTheSheep: nah seriously you any good with gimp?03:01
TheSheepsoberon: you can share directories using the system->shared foldrers dialog, but there is currently no program for browsing the windows network installed by default03:01
amandawow... that is weird03:01
TheSheepagentnewb: I earn for my living with it03:02
amandaterminal crashes my system and sends me back to login03:02
amanda*_*03:02
agentnewbsoberon: use putty from windows to reach your linux openssh server, scp is awesome fast03:02
amandahow am I supposed to reconfigure x03:02
soberonOK... Do you recomend me one03:02
amandalol03:02
amanda:D03:02
TheSheepamanda: that's a known bug with i810 too03:02
amandaoh great03:02
agentnewbTheSheep: can you recommend any guides for it?03:02
amandalol03:02
TheSheepamanda: setting it to 16bpp helps03:02
amandaso how do I set it back to vesa?03:02
soberonBut... from linux to windows???03:02
TheSheepagentnewb: the ones on gimp.org are pretty good, other than that -- practice, and the nice guys at #gimp on irc.gnome.org03:03
agentnewbTheSheep: can she use 24bpp? 16 has trouble with a few apps I use03:03
agentnewbTheSheep: I always forget that app is a gnome thing03:04
TheSheepsoberon: you can use a program called 'WinScp' under windows to copy files from linux boxes03:04
TheSheepagentnewb: I don't know, I just know that's one possible fix03:04
amandacan I just set xorg to use vesa instead of this intel driver?03:04
TheSheepamanda: log in in text mode, and type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:05
agentnewbyou could do a reverse connection using filezilla for regular ftp, that thing is fun to use03:05
amandaDOh I should have thought of that03:05
amanda:D03:05
amandathankies03:05
TheSheepamanda: you can, but vesa is extremely slow03:05
soberonThanks a lot 4TheSheep; I'm looking for some as smb4k usable in xubuntu03:05
TheSheepsoberon: there is pyneighbourhood03:06
amandayeah I know :C03:06
TheSheepsoberon: and you can also just mount a windows network with fusesmb03:06
TheSheepsoberon: I've heard the last one is pretty comfortable03:06
TheSheepsoberon: the files will just appear as if they were local files03:06
agentnewbg2g byes everyone03:07
soberonThat is the name for synaptic?... fusesmb?03:07
TheSheep!fuse03:07
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:07
TheSheepthat's not it :/03:07
TheSheep!info fusesmb03:08
ubotufusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB03:08
TheSheepsoberon: about that reversed question mark -- I always wondered what do you do when you can't type that -- do you skip it or use normal question mark?03:08
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spasticteapotAnyone here know why the bleep Firefox won't open a java applett?03:09
soberonThanks a lot for help a newby!!! greetengs03:09
soberonNo... is in spanish03:09
soberonmy keyword is for spanish language03:09
soberonthese  opens a question and ? close03:10
TheSheepsoberon: yes, I meant Spanish. I'm just curious what do you do when you type Spanish but must use ASCII only and can't use the reversed question mark?03:10
soberonsame as  open exclamation and ! close it03:10
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TheSheepspasticteapot: any details?03:11
soberonOhh just use the same ? for open and close03:11
spasticteapotTheSheep: I installed JRE5 and JRE6 from the repository.03:11
TheSheepsoberon: ah, thanks03:12
TheSheepspasticteapot: I think you need sun-java6-plugin03:12
soberongood by and thanks03:12
spasticteapotD'oh!03:12
TheSheepsoberon: good bye03:12
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viddwhat is a nice, lightweight pdf viewer?03:59
viddand is pdf a proprietary format?04:00
TheSheepvidd: evince-gtk, epdfview, xpdf04:00
illu45I like Foxit, myself04:01
TheSheepvidd: it has opened spec, but Adobe still develops new versions04:01
TheSheepvidd: so it's prectically in control of Adobe04:01
viddso that why its not installed by default?04:01
TheSheepillu45: it's proprietary04:01
TheSheepvidd: evince is installed by default04:02
TheSheepvidd: it figures as 'document viewer' in the menu04:02
viddhmmm04:02
TheSheepvidd: under graphics04:02
Howdy125Document viewer04:03
viddi just redownloaded...i guess the file was corrupt04:03
viddit open04:03
viddty04:03
TheSheepvidd: there is also a pdf editor at getdeb.net04:03
TheSheepvidd: didn't try it yet though04:03
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amandaima gonna pull meh hair out *_*04:06
amanda:D04:06
Howdy125That will hurt04:06
amandaI switched to vesa and set the resolutions but for some reason I am stuck in 640x480 now :C04:06
viddamanda, why?04:06
viddoic04:06
viddnot my area of expertice04:07
Howdy125amanda, your display preferences only shows 640x480 ?04:09
viddi cant believe they broke bcm43xx somewhere between dapper and fiesty....04:09
TheSheepillu45: 1. OWNERSHIP: Foxit Reader is fully owned by Foxit, this license agreement doesn't change the ownership.04:09
viddand it STILL hasnt been fixed04:10
illu45TheSheep, ah04:10
TheSheepillu45: rent-a-prog ;)04:10
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amandahey howdy04:10
amanda:D04:10
amandait shows only default04:10
amandawhich is 64004:11
illu45Never noticed that, might have to stick to Doc viewer, then04:11
amandaomg it hurtz meh eyez04:11
amanda:D04:11
TheSheepillu45: Windows comes with a similar EULA04:11
viddswitch back!04:11
amandawee-oooh-wee-ooh-wee-ooh04:11
amanda:D04:11
amandaima see if this fixes it04:11
amandabrb04:11
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viddand WHY dont xubuntu come with a fully functional cd berner?04:15
TheSheepvidd: because the only ones available have gnome/kde dependencies04:16
Howdy125I just install k3b04:17
TheSheepI guess k3b is the best of all that bunch, even when it pulls in half of the kde04:17
viddsure Howdy125 let me fill up half my hard drive so i can burn an ISO i no longer have room to download04:17
Howdy125You must have a small HD vidd :(04:18
viddwe can all have tera-gig hard drives04:18
vidd=] 04:18
vidd*cant04:19
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Howdy125I forget how big my HD is .. 80 gig I think. pretty small these days.04:19
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TheSheepHowdy125: you can't buy a smaller one04:19
atarinoxthere a good app for taking desktop screens?04:19
TheSheepatarinox: you have a panel applet for that04:19
TheSheepatarinox: gimp also can do that04:20
TheSheepatarinox: and you can instal scrot or ImageMagick04:20
atarinoxTheSheep: what is a panel applet? and where can i find it04:20
atarinoxoh nm04:20
atarinoxim retarded04:20
j1mcatarinox: right-click on your top panel bar, and select add an item.  :)04:20
TheSheepatarinox: right-click on your panel, select 'add new item' and lookf for a photo cmaera icon04:20
j1mcsounds like you found it.04:20
viddi have to ftp files across my network to get to the only pc with enough storage space for gnomebaker and the iso04:21
Howdy125I think amanda probably still had her color depth set at 24 .. could be why she got the low rez.04:22
viddall my BIG drives are in my server bos04:22
vidd*box04:22
TheSheepHowdy125: "her"?04:22
Howdy125her/him .. lol04:23
viddTheSheep, amanda is a girl's name04:23
TheSheepvidd: "kalikiana" also seems so, and I've been told numerous times that I must be a girl with such a cute nick ;)04:23
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Howdy125Well you could be a girl Sheep ;)04:24
TheSheepwell, it doesn't matter04:25
viddTheSheep, ive never met a boy named amanda (that didnt jump off a bridge or dress in drag)04:25
TheSheepI could be a sheep as well04:25
amanda*_*04:25
CaT[tm] or a wolf...04:25
Howdy125amanda thinks WHAT ?04:25
amanda*_*04:25
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TheSheepamanda I mean04:26
TheSheepamanda: how's your screen?04:26
viddtell the truth amanda male or female?04:26
Howdy125amanda, the question is are you or aren't you a girl .. just for the record.04:26
TheSheepvidd: that's stalking ;)04:26
amandaum naturally female04:26
amandathank u04:26
amandaLOL04:26
Howdy125ok04:27
TheSheepthat's a rarity :)04:27
amanda:P yeah a few of us care about math and computers...04:27
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Howdy125Get your video working amanda04:27
vidd=] 04:27
amandabah no04:27
amandaI cant get xorg to take the right resolution using vesa04:27
amanda:/04:27
Howdy125amanda, you might try setting the DefaultDepth to 16 in xorg.conf and keep it set for vesa ... after that I don't know.04:28
viddim out04:28
TheSheepsetting larger aperture in bios settings might work too04:28
amandayeah its plucked up... me thinks its a bug04:28
TheSheepamanda: it's obviously a bug, but there might be a way to work around it04:28
amandaahh.. its ok04:29
amandaI will just restore my backup xorg.conf04:29
amandak guys im out... thanks for the help...04:32
amanda:D04:32
Howdy125yw04:32
TheSheepnever ever buy an intel graphics card for linux04:33
Howdy125My savage isn't so great either04:33
TheSheephehe, my s3trio neither ;)04:34
TheSheepI still have a voodoo2 somewhere, wonder if I should add it :)04:36
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Howdy125I have SiS in this computer .. seems to work well with Linux .. other than no 3D04:38
TheSheepsis, s3 and trident seem to be the most common graphic cards04:38
TheSheepfor older boxes04:38
kebafter i installed Feisty, a new window called seahorse-agent pops up when i use ssh, asking for my keyring.  is seahorse related to the old ssh-agent and ssh-askpass-gnome ?04:39
TheSheepyes, I think it's the new key manager04:40
TheSheephttp://www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/04:40
kebthanks04:40
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amanda_back again04:50
amanda_:C04:51
amanda_I restored my old xorg.conf file04:51
amanda_but for some reason terminal is auto starting and crashing me now04:51
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amanda*_*04:51
amandaanyone got any ideas how04:51
TheSheepamanda: that terminal crashing is a known bug04:52
amandayes but why is terminal autostarting when I log in now04:52
TheSheepamanda: you can log in the text console and erase .cache/sessions to get rid of the autostarting terminal04:52
TheSheepit apparently got saved in your session04:52
amanda*_*04:52
amandaso what command should I run from terminal04:53
Howdy125And don't save sessions when loging off.04:53
amandahow do you erase .cache/sessions04:53
amanda:c04:53
TheSheepamanda: rm -r ~/.cache/sessions04:53
amandaahh thankies04:54
amandaill try thank04:54
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amandathanks again04:54
Howdy125yep04:54
TheSheepamanda: you can install gnome-terminal or use xterm until they fix that bug04:54
Howdy125too late04:55
TheSheepheh04:55
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kebis xfce-terminal the lightest one that still keeps a scrollback and handles unicode?05:10
TheSheepkeb: no05:11
TheSheepkeb: even xterm keeps scrollback05:11
TheSheepnot sure about unicode05:12
kebhmm i probably don't use much unicode in vim05:12
TheSheepI od05:12
TheSheepdo05:12
TheSheepbut I use gvim most of the time05:13
TheSheepit has its own terminal emulation05:13
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thorsdecreehello can anyone help me?05:14
TheSheep!ask | thorsdecree05:14
ubotuthorsdecree: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:14
thorsdecreei am installing xubuntu on an old pentium 2 machine with 192mb ram05:14
thorsdecreei got it ok on the live cd05:14
thorsdecreei used to use damn small linux =p05:14
thorsdecreebut when it gets to desktop everything is distorted05:14
thorsdecreethe screen repeats 4 times05:14
thorsdecreeand overlaps05:14
thorsdecreereally annoying...05:15
thorsdecreeI can't read anything so i can't really tell what's going on05:15
TheSheepthorsdecree: and flickers?05:15
thorsdecreeit did taht before, but when i used safe graphics it didnt05:15
thorsdecreei set the monitor settings to 800*600, my monitor size05:15
TheSheepthorsdecree: sounds like it uses a refresh rate higher than your monitor can handle05:15
thorsdecreebefore, when i was not in safe graphics, it repeated like 10 times...05:15
thorsdecreeits displaying the same stuff 4 times overlapping in the middle05:16
thorsdecreeand there's a weird thing that is on the same horizontal as mouse sprite05:16
thorsdecreei really have no idea why it's doing this...05:16
thorsdecreeu ever heard of this?05:16
thorsdecreeits a crt monitor, im pretty sure it has a high enough refresh05:16
TheSheepthorsdecree: press alt+ctrl+f1, the log in and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and configure your monitor properly -- with the right refresh rates05:16
thorsdecreethe problem is, it goes straight to desktop and i cant read anythign anyway05:17
thorsdecreeits a desktop distro, is that anything important?05:17
TheSheepyes, but if you press alt+ctrl+f1, it will go into text mode05:17
gobloxthat's why you do alt+ctrl+f105:17
Jester45thorsdecree: i had the same peoblem when i logged out once, im not sure why it did that but its not doing it anymore05:17
thorsdecreeok hold on leme go to other comp05:17
thorsdecreebrb05:17
thorsdecreeok, its been about a minute and it hasn't done anythign after i entered the command05:20
TheSheepwhat command?05:20
thorsdecreeah nvm it just went into the hardware setup promp05:20
TheSheepwhich?05:20
thorsdecreebrb im workin on it05:20
thorsdecreehow much mem should i allocate to my video card?05:21
TheSheepthorsdecree: um... how much ram do you have?05:21
thorsdecree192mb05:21
Jester45thorsdecree: is it intergrated05:22
thorsdecreeidk...05:22
Jester45non-intergrated cards dont need allocated ram05:22
thorsdecreei built this computer out of 4 ancinet ones lol05:23
thorsdecreei have no idea whats in it05:23
Jester45is it a seprate card or part od the monther board05:23
thorsdecreei think its separate05:23
Jester45mother board*05:23
thorsdecreeyeah, it is05:23
thorsdecreeseparate05:23
Jester45leave it blank05:23
thorsdecreekk brb05:23
Jester45it will have its own ram05:23
thorsdecreeits going thru its xserver config now05:26
thorsdecreebrb05:26
Jester45k05:26
thorsdecreek looks like its finished, i got a command prompt now05:26
thorsdecreeso what now?05:26
Jester45i would reboot05:27
Jester45or restart the xserver05:27
thorsdecreea command for that?05:27
thorsdecreeim new to Linux lol05:27
thorsdecreei dont wana mess anything up... and im running from live cd05:27
Jester45o05:27
thorsdecreei used the boot in safe gfx mode to get here05:27
thorsdecreeso what now?05:27
Jester45so you reconfigured xserver on live cd05:28
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thorsdecreeyeah... doesn't it load itself to a ramdisk or something?05:28
Jester45im not sure, if you reboot you loose the config05:28
thorsdecreeyeah... so how do i do this lol?05:28
Jester45yea its a ram disk05:28
thorsdecreei want to install but i have this whole mess here05:28
thorsdecreecan't install as is, can't do this and then install tho, eh?05:28
TheSheepalt+ctrl+backspace05:29
thorsdecreekk05:29
Jester45press alt + ctrl + F7 then once the screen changes press alt + crl + backspace05:29
TheSheepit will restart the X withou restarting the whole live cd05:29
Jester45i had to think of what you were trying to do05:29
thorsdecreekk same problem...05:30
thorsdecreeit is still repeating the whole display 4 times05:30
Jester45are you on the deskop?05:30
thorsdecreeyeah05:31
Jester45humm05:31
thorsdecreei can't read squat... but im on 4 desktops lol05:31
Jester45not the same as mine then05:31
thorsdecreethis is annoying...05:31
thorsdecreeok so is it maybe trying to display a very low/weird res?05:32
TheSheepthorsdecree: try alt+ctrl+- on the numeric keyboard05:32
thorsdecreeand repeating itself across my screen in the process...?05:32
thorsdecreekk brb05:32
thorsdecreeoooh!05:32
thorsdecreekk i got 1 desktop now but its not fullscreen05:32
thorsdecreeits zoomed, i have to scroll around with mouse05:32
thorsdecreebut its somewhere lol05:32
thorsdecreek now what? set lower res?05:32
TheSheeppressing alt+ctrl++ and - will change the graphic modes05:33
thorsdecreekk05:33
TheSheeplook for one you're comfortable with05:33
thorsdecreewent back to original mode05:33
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thorsdecreekeep doing ctl alt +?05:33
TheSheepyes05:33
thorsdecreekk brb05:33
TheSheepyou only need it to run the installer05:34
thorsdecreethe first one after overlap display problem is closer...05:34
thorsdecreeits still zoomed05:34
thorsdecreethe second one is worse... and its 3 modes total05:34
TheSheeponce it's installed you can reconfigure X to fix that05:34
thorsdecreekk so now i use the "install" on desktop?05:34
TheSheepyes05:34
thorsdecreekk... windows, get ready to be formatted muahhaha!05:34
thorsdecreeactually win is on my tiny 2.2g hard drive lol, ill put lin on the 6.505:35
thorsdecreebrb05:35
Jester45TheSheep: if i ever try a desktop install please slap me around05:35
thorsdecreei like the mac look lol05:35
thorsdecreeeh?05:35
TheSheep.oO( wonder if the graphical installer works with 192MB)05:35
thorsdecreelol its supposedly able to do everything on 128 or less05:36
Jester45yea it does but very slowly05:36
thorsdecreei heard one guy who did it on a 64... and yeah tell me abou tit lol05:36
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Jester45keep in mind its running from a cd05:36
TheSheepthorsdecree: he used alternate cd, not the graphical installer05:36
thorsdecreek going thru install process, ill be back when im done with taht part05:37
Jester45see you in a few hours :)05:37
thorsdecreethx for help guys, i may have to go soon...05:37
thorsdecree=p05:37
thorsdecreeno joke? 0.005:37
Jester45what processor speed05:37
TheSheepI wonder if I should go to sleep, it's morning already :/05:37
TheSheepI guess it's not worth it :D05:37
Jester45lol05:38
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thorsdecree400MHz05:38
thorsdecreepentium 2 lol im too poor to upgrade05:38
Jester45i would guess 3 hours05:38
thorsdecreebuying a macbook pro this summer, gonna parrallel osx and lin05:38
thorsdecreelol well its about bedtime so no prob05:39
Jester45depending on your hd drive05:39
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thorsdecreeso i guess ill format the damnsmalllinux drive and install xubuntu05:40
thorsdecreeis all the great stuff i've heard about xubun true?05:40
Jester45sure05:41
thorsdecreelol i mean ill be fine with stuff like openoffice.org etc. etc.?05:41
Jester45i use it over all others05:41
thorsdecreelol i heard it was best on slower computers cpd to others, so i got it05:41
kebits all true except the part about it making coffee for you05:41
thorsdecreecuz i built this comp out of old oens about 12 yr old lol05:41
thorsdecreeoh... whys it got a cupholder then???05:41
thorsdecree=p05:41
Jester45with that OO.org stuf you might not wanna run to many of those with that ram05:42
Howdy125My laptop is 800 mhz and 128 megs and xubuntu doesn't do too bad on it.05:42
kebi found OOo 2.2 runs a lot faster05:42
Howdy125Don't laugh .. I gave it a 1 gig swap .. lol05:42
thorsdecreei can say this: i like the gui way better than any other05:42
thorsdecreesimple and speedy05:42
Jester45keb: what java version05:42
Jester45i like the gui also i used kubuntu ubuntu gentoo debian fendora core and i came back to xubuntu05:43
kebhmm.. whatever came with it.  i only use the word processor sometimes05:43
TheSheepJester45: OO works faster if you disable java on it05:44
TheSheepJester45: especially on low ram05:44
Jester45?? i thought it was coded in java05:45
TheSheepJester45: no, it only can use java for macros05:45
TheSheepJester45: and some plugins05:45
Jester45o well05:45
Jester45i might try it again05:45
kebyeah the office integration that MS-Office uses VB for05:45
TheSheepkeb: OO uses python for that ;)05:45
thorsdecreek im partitioning now05:45
keboic, why use two different scripting langauges05:46
thorsdecreelol i like oo, i moved over to completely opensource stuff05:46
thorsdecreeexcept flash and dreamweaver...05:46
TheSheepand mp3, and divx, and dvd, and...05:46
thorsdecreeok, tyvm all, i may be back later, but for now im good05:47
Howdy125Not a computer without those is it.05:47
TheSheep.oO( yeah, I know, you all love the serial comma )05:47
thorsdecreethx for the help everyone05:47
thorsdecreegod bless, and good night05:47
TheSheepHowdy125: ogg works pretty well...05:47
Jester45TheSheep: you could use xvid05:47
Jester45i like mp305:48
Jester45becuase i dont have to rencode it05:48
Howdy125I haven't messed with ogg05:48
TheSheepactually, for me personally, the worst proprietary thing I can't get rid off are fonts05:48
Howdy125Fonts are kind of important ..05:48
Howdy125good ones05:49
TheSheepwell, dejavu are nice and pretty well done05:49
TheSheepand they give you the basics05:49
TheSheepbut if you do any more advanced design...05:49
TheSheepand the fonts that came with Vista are really REALLY well done05:50
TheSheepoptimized for computer screen05:50
TheSheepVerdana and Georgia are pretty good too05:50
Howdy125Long as I can read whats on the screen I'm good to go.05:51
TheSheepHowdy125: there is a huge difference, try to disable hinting and you'll see :)(05:51
Howdy125No way lol .. I've seen bad fonts before .. default kde fonts can be pretty bad in some distros.05:53
TheSheepI love DejaVu and Terminus05:53
TheSheepTerminus is the only font for terminal, be it linux or windows05:54
TheSheepit resembles the vga font from text mode05:54
Howdy125Time for some TV .. cya later folks.05:57
Jester45bye for me also05:58
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blakerHello!06:59
blakerI just got Linux. Haha.07:00
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kebcongrats07:01
blakerthanks07:01
blakerhehe.07:01
blakerhmm, how do i change like my real name and stuff in irssi?07:01
blakerany idea?07:01
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kebdunno07:02
BlakerXHmm.07:02
BlakerXAlright.07:02
Myrttiyou found it?07:06
TheSheep /help is your friend :)07:07
Myrtti/set real_name scriptkiddie haxor07:07
TheSheepscriptkiddie haxor jr.07:07
BlakerXthanks07:07
BlakerXi found it in my config file in my home directory anyways07:07
TheSheepwonder how it got there XD07:08
BlakerXprobably somebody got into my box and moved it or something07:08
BlakerXdunno07:08
BlakerXdo you use beryl?07:08
Myrttiwell changing it wouldn't do much without you either a) restart irssi b) reload your config07:08
BlakerXyes, i know that.07:09
BlakerXim on xchat right now07:09
TheSheepthe a) worked, as we can see07:09
TheSheepah07:09
BlakerXim trying to change the ctcp version reply as well :)07:09
TheSheepchange it to "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)" ;)07:10
BlakerXyou're funny07:11
BlakerXi always change anything that can identify me07:11
BlakerXsame with my user_agent07:11
BlakerXirc version reply07:11
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BlakerX2Here I am!07:11
BlakerXhmmm07:12
BlakerXit says Unknown07:12
godlessomg hx0r07:12
BlakerXfor Real Name07:12
BlakerXi put BlakerX as the real_name07:12
BlakerXthis is strange to say the least07:12
BlakerXa bug in irssi07:12
TheSheepfor sure07:12
BlakerXnevermind its working07:12
BlakerXhow do i attack something?07:13
TheSheepI think it does that because your nick starts with cpaital B and ends with capital X, and irssi doesn't like it ;)07:13
BlakerXsomebody said you can do ddos on ubuntu07:13
tonyyarussoUm, attacking anything is offtopic for Freenode.  Stop now.07:13
BlakerXyou know anything about that?07:13
BlakerXoh07:13
TheSheepand it's not a joke07:13
BlakerXwhat?07:13
BlakerXi just wanna know how is all07:13
TheSheepabout offtopic07:13
BlakerXmy friend that i know from school has something called bots07:14
Myrttigood for him07:14
BlakerXhe can make websites go offline07:14
tonyyarussoWhich are not welcome here.07:14
Myrttimind telling us his name?07:14
BlakerXhe said use ubuntu07:14
BlakerXrob07:14
godlessMy name is Rob :(07:15
TheSheepgodless: I knew it! it's you!07:15
godlessWait, is that you, Steve?07:15
Myrttifull name, so we can go rat him to his parents?07:15
godlessI TOLD YOU NEVER TO USE MY REAL NAME07:15
godlessWe can't talk here, it's bugged.07:15
BlakerXno his dad doesnt care07:15
BlakerXhis dad is a computer expert07:15
TheSheepthat happens even in the best families :(07:16
BlakerXso can you help or not/07:16
BlakerXhe uses this to do it also07:16
tonyyarussono07:16
BlakerXirc07:16
Myrttino, we wont07:17
BlakerXis there a command in irc to do it?07:17
Myrttiyou go find out by yourself07:17
godless /attack07:17
BlakerXattack :Unknown command07:17
BlakerXlol07:17
BlakerXstop lying07:17
BlakerXyou learned from somebody07:17
BlakerXyou should share ur knowledge now07:17
godlessplz help America by typing /attack terrorism07:17
Myrttiwe honestly don't know. You go and do your homework and come back and tell us what you found, ok?07:18
godlessand /attack drugs07:18
BlakerXlol07:18
godlessthink of the children07:18
BlakerXcould you do ddos for me then07:18
BlakerXplease07:18
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Myrttithank you07:18
godlessSorry. :)07:19
MyrttiI wish I had a better laptop07:19
godlessI'm pretty sure he was just trolling anyway. His spelling was too good.07:20
Myrttiputting the compositor on looks nice but the fans start a racket when I do07:20
TheSheepMyrtti: justb etter graphics card :)07:20
crdlbxfce's compositor?07:20
crdlbor compiz?07:20
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kioskany one know where to set kernel parameters?07:22
Myrttixfce's compositor07:22
kioski.e. acpi=off07:22
kioskcompositor?07:22
Myrttinevermind07:22
TheSheepkiosk: on the live cd?07:22
TheSheepkiosk: press f6 and type them there07:23
kioskno installed07:23
crdlbMyrtti: xfce comes with a 2d compositor07:23
TheSheepin the /boot/grub/menu.lst07:23
crdlboh nm07:23
crdlbMyrtti: how bad is the video card?07:23
TheSheepkiosk: or press 'e' on a menu entry in grub07:23
kioskTheSheep: thanks07:24
Myrtti01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY07:26
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Myrttiwell, I'm actually getting a newer laptop next week07:26
crdlbruns compiz great for me07:27
TheSheepI'd hesiatte to run X on a laptop at all -- tex mode is better for batteries :)07:27
TheSheeptext07:27
Myrttitshih07:27
TheSheepMyrtti: ?07:28
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MyrttiI might actually be putting obenbox or fluxbox to this one after I'm getting the new one from our ICT department07:28
kioskso kernel parameters would go at the end of a line begining with "kernel"07:29
TheSheepkiosk: yes07:30
TheSheepkiosk: there usually already are some, like the root=... and quiet, etc.07:30
TheSheepkiosk: just add yours07:30
kioskthere are two kernal lines07:30
TheSheepkiosk: yes, one is for the safe mode07:31
TheSheep'rescue'07:31
TheSheepor however they called it07:31
kioskok I see07:32
kioskOk brb07:33
kioskhave to reboot and see if it worked.07:33
TheSheepgood luck07:33
kioskthanks07:33
kioskjust realized07:33
kioskprobably not a good Idea to modify both lines huh07:33
TheSheepprobably not :)07:34
kioskif you mess up you will mess up recovery mode too. LOL07:34
TheSheepyou can always modify them in grub though07:34
kioskand have no way to fix it.07:34
TheSheepby pressing 'e'07:34
kioskoh07:34
kioskcool07:34
kioskwell here gos.07:34
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kioskwell I survived a reboot but still no sound07:44
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xjkxI am installing xubuntu, and there is in the last window "language: ... location: ... username: " and there is "migration assistant" wtf? it has my windows ! isnt it going to erase it? migration assistent means actually what?07:46
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TheSheepxjkx: it means it will look at your windows settings and try to set up xubuntu in similar way07:47
xjkxlike what? lol07:47
xjkxmy windows has nothing to look at07:47
TheSheepxjkx: like importing the bookmarks, setting up the mail client, etc.07:48
xjkxcant i deny it? thats not cool07:48
TheSheepxjkx: why?07:48
TheSheepxjkx: it doesn't erase anything from your windows07:49
xjkxbecause my windows is my windows and my linux is my linux :> i dont want its configuration/bookmarts07:49
TheSheepxjkx: I didn't actually use the new installator, so I'm not sure, but there should be an option to skip it07:49
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xjkxi saw none, but will install anyway07:50
xjkxTheSheep: that user import thing rly works? i waste a big time making a backup of my debian for nothing then07:51
xjkxwasted*07:51
xjkxis it supposed to add the user and its content to the system that will be installed?07:51
TheSheepxjkx: I suppose it works if they put it in07:51
xjkxyea just checking if i got it right07:51
xjkxi think i will like xub, its so light07:52
xjkxTheSheep: do you use xfburn to burn cds or you installed k3b? :D07:53
TheSheepxjkx: I use graveman, why?07:53
BFTDgraveman rocks!!!!07:54
xjkxi am guessing how my "life" will be after some usage, i rly dont mean to install kdelibs, is graveman gtk based?07:54
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xjkxhaha yea, i will have to dance much to skip kdelibs and you will help me :D:D:D07:55
TheSheepI hate to say it, k3b might have horrendous user interface and kde dependencies and all, but it seems to be the best program for burining cds available for linux -- from the technical side07:56
xjkxi luv k3b :P but if graveman can burn audio and data i think i will be ok07:57
TheSheepand the recent versions have the user interface even worse, I didn't think it was possible until I saw XD07:57
BFTDhrm07:57
BFTDI don't really mind it07:57
BFTDhey07:57
BFTDum07:57
BFTDyou know the part where Xubuntu boots up, and it shows the splash screen, how do i change that?07:57
xjkxgreat question07:58
Myrttiafter login?07:58
BFTDno before the login screen07:58
TheSheepBFTD: you want a different splash or just lots of letters like in matrix?07:58
Myrttiusplash then07:58
BFTDusplash07:58
BFTDhehe07:58
xjkxthere should have some pre-build ones in apt-get :>07:59
TheSheepBFTD: the graphics is actually compiled in, in library files in /usr/lib/usplash/07:59
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TheSheepBFTD: the graphics is actually compiled in, in library files in /usr/lib/usplash/08:00
BFTDok, that made me crash08:00
BFTDhow do i change it?08:00
TheSheepBFTD: install more of them and choose one using the update-alternatives script08:01
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xjkxhow do we install more of them, apt-get splashes?08:01
TheSheepBFTD: I think you need to rebuild your initrd after that -- just reinstall the kernel package08:01
BFTDnot worth it08:01
BFTDI'll leave it alone08:01
TheSheep *-artwork-usplash08:02
xjkxwow, kernel reinstalling, i will pass too08:02
TheSheepxjkx: it happens on practically every security update anyways08:02
xjkx:>08:02
xjkxgrazie was it easy to set it off ?08:03
xjkxturn*08:03
BFTDis linux-2.6.20.7 newer then the default Ubuntu kernel?08:04
BFTDah08:04
BFTD2.6.21.1 is out08:04
BFTDI'll get that08:04
graziexjkx: v.easy ... it's kernel boot parameter in /boot/grub/menu.lst.08:05
BFTDgrazie just remove "splash"?08:06
xjkxsomehow the panel didnt open by running by cd, hope it will be fine in installed one08:06
xjkxgrazie doesnt it have lilo? :> i am more familiarized with it :P08:07
grazieBFTD: yeah and quiet if you want to the kernel boot message08:07
graziexjkx: grub is default, by you may have lilo under some circunstances08:08
graziebut*08:08
BFTDI know lilo08:08
BFTDI've messed with that08:08
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MyrttiI don't remember ubuntu having lilo ever08:10
xjkxif i am not mistaken on grub everything is different, its doesnt call devices like hda5 as lilo does, am i wrong?08:10
TheSheepxjkx: it counts from 908:11
TheSheepfrom 008:11
TheSheepsorry08:11
grazieapparantly lilo is installed if LVM is used08:11
BFTDSlackware has lilo08:11
BFTDfor me lilo is easier then GRUB, but its also rougher08:11
xjkxTheSheep: how is my hda1 named? hda0?08:12
Myrtti0,0 prolly08:12
TheSheepxjkx: hd008:12
TheSheepxjkx: (hd0,0)08:12
xjkxwhat about hdb1 ?08:13
TheSheepxjkx: actually08:13
TheSheepxjkx: (hd1,0)08:13
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xjkxthen hda5 would be hd0, 5 ?08:13
Myrttino08:13
xjkx(hd0, 5)08:13
Myrtti0,408:13
TheSheepno, (hd0,4)08:13
xjkxor.. right08:13
xjkxmy bad08:13
TheSheepxjkx: concentrate, think geek ;)08:14
xjkx;] 08:14
BFTDhow do I see whats using my sound card?08:18
crimsunlsof /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*08:19
xjkxit comes with firefox ;o should be ice~something which is more free :>08:20
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sullewhen i try to sudo apt-get upgrade i get a W: E: E: error. Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ etc. what can i do ?08:25
TheSheepsulle: check if you have any free disk space08:25
sullegot avail 628 mb of 8.8 gigs. its a small ftp server i got back home08:27
TheSheepsulle: make sure you don't have synaptic or aptitude or another apt running08:28
sullei am ssh ing the server from work. server is at home. should i just RS the server ?08:29
TheSheepsulle: just do ps ax | grep apt08:29
TheSheepand ps ax | grep synaptic08:29
sulle 4761 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep apt08:30
sulle 4766 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep synaptic08:30
TheSheepsulle: kill them08:30
TheSheepah08:30
TheSheepno sorry08:30
TheSheepthey didn't find anything but themselves08:30
sulleokok =)08:31
sulleso what is the problem then?08:31
TheSheeptype mount and see if the partition isn't mounted read-only08:31
sullegot a paste bin ?08:32
TheSheep!pastebin08:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:32
sulleTheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19091/08:33
TheSheepall good :/08:33
TheSheepyou're sure you did sudo?08:34
sulleW: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:34
sulleE: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/08:34
sulleE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.08:34
TheSheepsulle: can you pastebin the exact errors?08:34
TheSheepnevermind08:34
sulle=)08:34
TheSheepsudo apt-get update?08:35
sullehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19093/08:37
TheSheepdf08:38
TheSheepthis is very weird08:38
TheSheepyou changed your local time recently?08:38
sullenope not at all08:38
sullebut the computer was hanging up yesterday08:39
sulleso i hat to manually restart it by unplugging it.08:39
sulleand then i started it again before i went to work.08:39
sullethe webserver works, but not the upgrade update etc08:39
TheSheepsulle: well, maybe just remove that lock file08:40
TheSheep/var/lib/dpkg/lock08:40
sullelike sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?08:41
TheSheepyes, only maybe better mv it to something else08:42
TheSheepit should be an empty file anyways08:42
sulleokok i will try it08:42
sullemv: cannot move `/var/lib/dpkg/lock' to `/home/sulle/lock': Read-only file system08:43
TheSheepok, that explains a lot08:44
sullei am NOT good at linux08:44
sullei dont know ****08:44
TheSheepsulle: run 'sudo fsck /dev/hda1'08:44
TheSheepsulle: there are errors on your disk and they need to be corrected08:44
TheSheep(probably from the power loss)08:45
TheSheepfsck will fix the errors08:45
TheSheepthen you'll probably need to reboot08:45
sullehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19096/08:46
TheSheepgreat, physical error08:46
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sulleso i need to change the HD itself?, maybe that is why it crashed last night? and now it works wierd ?08:48
TheSheepsulle: you can scan the surface of the disk and mark the parts that are faulty, so that they are not used08:48
TheSheepsulle: thecommmand for this is  sudo fsck -c /dev/hda108:49
sullehowto ?08:49
TheSheepit will take a long while08:49
sulleits ok. =)08:49
TheSheepthen you need to somehow recover the journal for your partition, not sure how08:49
sullefsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)08:49
sullee2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)08:49
sulle/dev/hda1: recovering journal08:49
sullefsck.ext3: unable to set superblock flags on /dev/hda108:49
TheSheepthere is probably an option for fsck to do it too08:49
TheSheepbah08:50
sulleTheSheep: dont look so good08:50
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xjkxon cd-boot it has a 1-run cd and install xubuntu, 2-install with safe graphics mode, what do they mean with safe graphics mode08:50
TheSheepxjkx: using vesa drivers that should work on any computer08:52
xjkxuhmm08:52
xjkxthe other one worked here, but with safe graphics its faster08:52
TheSheepsulle: there is an alternate superblock, but its location depends on the size of the filesystem08:52
xjkxTheSheep: will it keep using vesa when i install?08:52
TheSheepsulle: man fsck.ext3 and look at the -b option08:53
TheSheepxjkx: not, it will attempt to configure xserver normally -- or even if not, you can always reconfigure it08:53
xjkxuhmm08:53
sulleman command not found08:55
sulleTheSheep: the command man fsck.ext3 was not found08:57
TheSheephttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19099/08:59
TheSheepsulle: not sure how to check the block size of your filesystem09:00
sullesame here.09:00
sullei dont know what to do.09:01
sulleChange the Harddisk itself ?09:01
xjkxuhmm i cant make extended partitions with this partitioner ! it allows me to make logicals, but with no extended, i installed it first time making two logicais, it froze on "starting up" i believe it created two logicals out of an extended and messed up or something09:01
xjkxits also only logical and primary what if offers me09:02
xjkxcouldnt make on cfdisk neither09:02
TheSheepsulle: it's not like it's all broken09:03
TheSheepsulle: but if you have warranty for it, then it's good to have it replaced09:04
sullei dont, but i can get a new HD from work.09:04
sulleso i am DONE with that problem for good? !09:04
TheSheepsulle: well, replacing the hard disk drive will surely solve it once and for all09:05
TheSheepsulle: but you may be still able to use most of this disk09:05
TheSheep(it's probably only a few bad blocks that are broken)09:06
sulleokok =)09:06
sullethnx alot TheSheep. if u need anything i can help you with. just ask =P09:06
sullebut i dont know if i am at annyhelp =P hehe09:06
xjkxthanks god it has gparted09:06
xjkxterminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'09:07
xjkxor not09:07
xjkxworked on sudo :D09:08
TheSheepsulle: good luck with that box09:11
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TheSheepsulle: hope nothing more is broken09:11
sullesame here09:15
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xjkxi cant understand whats wrong with my installation ! doesnt it run on reiserfs?09:20
xjkxI thought it was the extended thing but on gparted its cleary saw its right09:20
xjkxi freeze on "starting up"09:20
xjkxtakes forever09:20
Wriestwhat programs run on xubuntu? like beryl, any other09:20
xjkxafter the grubscreen09:21
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xjkxi get nothing after "starting up"09:26
xjkx:/09:26
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kumamoto_Wriest: are u looking for a specific one09:42
Wriestno just something different09:47
Wriestthat is stable09:47
WriestI install beryl and I got a white screen09:48
Wriestkumamoto_: you there09:49
WriestIs anyone here09:53
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xjkxcannot alocate resource for eisa slot 1, `same message` slot 4, freeing unnused kernel memory, input: At translated set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input109:55
xjkxthen it freezes09:55
xjkxon safe mode09:55
xjkxtried vga=normal on grub already09:55
xjkxideas would be accepted09:55
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sulleTheSheep: u there ?10:19
sullewhen i am on my server throu ssh, i try to restart it by typing sudo init 6. but nothing happen. i just get a new command line.10:19
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darrendsulle: try typing 'reboot' (w/o the quotes) instead10:25
sullesulle@Server:~$ sudo reboot10:26
sullesudo: unable to execute /sbin/reboot: Input/output error10:26
darrendsomething odd there10:27
sulleyes i do think so10:27
darrendwhat version of ubuntu?10:28
sullewell, Ubuntu server10:28
sullei dont know which :p10:28
sullei had it on a cd and installed it for some time ago.10:28
sulleit is upgraded and updated.10:28
xjlxsulle: do you know my case?10:28
darrendcat /etc/issue10:28
sullexjlx: i realy dont know annything about linux so no10:29
xjlxi cant boot :(10:29
sulleUbuntu 6.10 \n \l10:29
darrendis the server running normally?10:29
sullewell i got a tip from TheSheep that my HD is messed up. so i need to change that part. but is maybe that the case i cant reboot ?10:30
darrendcould be10:30
sulleokok10:31
darrendsomething fundamental is wrong if you get that response from the reboot command10:31
sullebut if i copy the hole ./ and paste that in my new HD with installed ubuntu server on it. will it work like the old one ?10:31
darrender, no.  that's not how to do it10:31
darrendtry tailing your syslog for a while, see what shows up in there10:32
sulleye but i am changing my hd annyway.10:32
sulleso how can i copy every program and files to the new ubuntu with the new hd?.10:32
sullei will copy things out on a external hd10:33
darrendhang on, did I misread your post.. are you re-installing the server and copying over your data?10:33
sulleand then back again when i have switched hd.10:33
sullei am changing the harddisk in the server.10:33
darrendor did you mean copy all files from one hdd to the other10:33
sullere-installing ubuntu server on the NEW HD. with the programs and files from the old server.10:33
sulleso i dont have to reinstall and refix all installed programs on the new hd10:34
darrendno.  you need to re-install from CD.  You can then add any additional programs using aptitude that you currently have10:35
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darrendthen you can copy over their settings from the old hdd10:35
darrendso, stuff that might be in /etc for example10:35
darrendbut you have to do this with care in case of references to devices that may have changed or similar10:35
sullewhy cant i just copy ./ in to my mybook, then throw away the old hardisk. put in the new. and then paste back in the ./ dir to the new ubuntu ?10:36
kumamoto_sulle: also see what messages u get from running badblocks10:36
sulleokok10:36
darrendbecause it won't work10:36
sullehmm ok =(10:36
darrendif you want to try, go ahead10:36
sulleaptitude ? how does that work?.10:37
sullei dont realy understand why the copy / and paste it back in a new ubuntu install wont work..10:37
darrendgive it a go then.  knock yourself out10:38
sullebut can u explain why that wont work? it is just a copy paste. from one hd to another. with the same OS version and same updates ?.10:39
darrendapart from the fact that it will take a lot longer than just re-installing, your machine won't boot afterwards10:40
darrendif you want to copy an entire disk, you need lower level utilities than cp10:41
kumamoto_sulle: u won't understand until u get to know the basics of Linux and how it works10:41
darrendyou need things like dd10:41
darrendsince you know very little of linux/ubuntu now, I strongly suggest you don't attempt to go this route10:41
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darrendbut if you're determined to try, then go for it.10:42
sulleokok =)10:42
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shaddokhi10:52
shaddoki have a problem with beryl, yesterday i installed xubuntu + beryl +nvidia-legacy-drivers, everything was working like a charm until this morning, i booted up the computer and i only got a black screen instead of the login manager, xorg.conf is ok, Xorg.log is not : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Error recovery failed.10:53
shaddok(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***10:53
shaddokthat's all i have, any idea ?10:54
kumamoto_try reinstalling the nvidia driver or check whether nvidia module is installed (lsmod)10:54
kumamoto_or uninstall beryl and use compiz10:55
shaddokok, i'll try all those  solutions but it seems that it's not beryl related10:55
shaddokbe right back in a tty, thx for the hint10:56
kumamoto_u never know beryl fks things up at times10:56
shaddokok :(10:57
shaddokbrb10:57
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crdlbshaddok: what card?10:59
shaddoklet's try to reinstall the driver, if i quit suddenly it's the driver's fault :)10:59
shaddokcrdlb: geforce4  mx 400010:59
crdlbshaddok: don't use legacy then10:59
crdlbuse nvidia-glx10:59
crdlband if you can pastebin the actual error from your Xorg.0.log, that would help10:59
shaddokoops i was wrong about this one, i actually have the nvidia-glx driver, not the legacy one11:00
crdlbok so pastebin your Xorg.0.log11:00
crdlbthe one with the error11:01
kumamoto_shaddok: crdlb has a point pastebin the Xorg.0.log11:01
shaddokok, i relaunch x with nv driver so11:01
crdlbso use /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old11:01
shaddokwww.pastebin.ca/47046211:03
shaddokyep, the .old one11:03
shaddokthe problem is there is only two lines with EE in them11:03
crdlbthat's a really odd error11:04
crdlbthe driver is just crashing11:04
shaddokright :/11:04
shaddokthe real problem is that it worked yesterday... which tool can i use to see what updates were downloaded yesterday ? (i'm not very familiar with debian)11:05
crdlbtry this: sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg; sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2411:06
shaddokok crdlb :)11:06
shaddoklet me try to launch X, if it "freezes" i'll be back after rebooting, thx for your help11:09
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shaddoksame problem, i had to reboot11:12
crdlbhrm11:13
shaddoki'm pretty sure my config was right at first hand, so it must be the nvidia driver itself but that's problematic11:13
shaddokcan dpkg tells me which packages i updated yesterday ?11:13
crdlbthere's a dpkg log in /var/log iirc11:14
shaddokok11:14
shaddoki've got nothing related to drivers after the installation of beryl (ntp and irssi)11:16
crdlbshaddok: try these configuration options: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=8429811:18
shaddokis ti possible for you to give my the tinyurl of this url ? (tinyurl.com, it shrinks the url to something easier to remember, i'm in tty right now ^^ )11:19
shaddokthx in advance11:20
crdlbsure11:20
crdlbhttp://tinyurl.com/24fzc911:20
shaddokthank you11:20
crdlbjust the configuration, not the install instructions11:21
shaddokhehe i was sweating in advance ^^ i'm used to compile a kernel but not on this machine :)11:22
shaddokyou are talking about the options to pass to the drivers through the modprobe.d/options and xorg.conf right ?11:23
crdlbyes11:24
shaddokok11:24
shaddoki'm doing that but the thing i can't understand is why did it worked during a few hours :p11:26
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shaddokwoot !11:29
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shaddokit worked :D11:29
crdlbsrsly?11:29
shaddokthank you very much guys11:29
shaddokyep11:29
crdlbthat was a total shot in the dark11:29
shaddokhuhu, i'm happy it did hit the target :)11:30
xjkx i tried everything, noacpi, vga=771, vga=normal, noapic nolapic, and i cant boot, what should i do?11:30
shaddokthe weird thing in this problem is that i didn't do anything to make it work yesterday and now i need some obscure options... nevermind :)11:30
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ateicoshi guys11:33
ateicoscan anyone help me? i'm not able to enable the parallel port11:33
kumamoto_is it being detected at all or can be seen in dmesg?11:34
ateicoskumamoto, i've installed primaxscan, but it cannot execute and alert me to enable parallel port (epp-mode)11:35
ateicosin dmesg i see only this about parallel -> [   36.108000]  ppdev: user-space parallel port driver11:36
ateicosbut i don't see the scanner11:37
xjkxhere is where i freeze "Time: tsc clocksource has been installed."11:37
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kumamoto_have rebooted the machine with scanner attached?11:50
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ateicoskumamoto, bios settings doesn't have parallel port configuration inside11:51
kumamoto_no setting to show is parallel port is enabled?11:53
ateicosnone11:55
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kumamoto_ateicos I think you might have install something first before using it check out http://px-backend.sourceforge.net/install.html as an example12:10
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kalikianaAnyone here familiar with (creating) Thunar thumbnailers?02:30
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kumamoto_for some reason my dvd player won't play my music cds03:10
kumamoto_kalikiana: I wouldn't know but I know this might help http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/customizing-thunar.html#thumbnailers03:11
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vinzeIsn't the Open Week over already?03:21
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TheSheepkalikiana: a little, why?03:27
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amandahey :) does anyone know how to take a screenshot in xfce?04:23
Myrtti there's the screenshot applet04:24
Myrttithen of course gimp04:25
MyrttiI prefer scrot04:25
Lsiis it just beryl to push the 'print'-button to have the shot? Something shift+prnt maybe? mm.04:25
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atarinoxis there a way i can switch to root, or do something like sudo in X?04:29
atarinoxfor example, if i want to unzip something to a location not on /home04:29
TheSheep'gksu Thunar'04:30
TheSheepLsi: you can bind scrot to a key in keyboard settings04:30
Myrttigksudo too04:30
atarinoxthanks04:31
TheSheepMyrtti: isn't is just a link to the same?04:31
Myrttiuse it sparsly04:31
hrik001how do i start samba to see a shared folder on a windows machine ? thanks04:31
MyrttiTheSheep: gksudo is prolly easier to remember in conjugation with sudo on the command line04:31
TheSheephrik001: there is nos samba browser installed by defult, try looking for pyneighbourhood or fusesmb04:32
hrik001TheSheep ok04:32
hrik001TheSheep, i found fusesmb on synaptic, when i start it, it says 'missing mountpoint'04:35
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Catoptromancyhmmmm04:56
Catoptromancywhen i open a certain folder on an external hardrive, Thunar closes04:57
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Catoptromancynooo05:01
CatoptromancyI copied whole folder onto hardrive and it still closes05:02
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mars_Hi all. What wifi tool can I use if network manager, wicd and wifi radar fails?05:22
keb!wifi05:23
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:23
mars_I have already read that05:25
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kebhmm well iwconfig is the basic tool05:25
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mars_My wifi card works fine05:26
kebwhat problem are those other tools having?05:27
mars_I need to set static ip and stuff05:27
mars_but id doesent work05:28
Catoptromancyanyone know why a folder will close when I open it05:28
CatoptromancyI mean Thunar seems to crash when i open it05:28
mars_I mean i can set it, but then there is no internet connection05:28
kebmars_ does it set the gateway and dns servers?05:29
keband route05:29
mars_yes05:29
kebif you type route do you see two default gateways05:29
mars_?05:30
kebCatoptromancy is it only folders on external drives or all folders?05:30
kebmars, when you type the route command, it should show you how packets are routed to the net05:30
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kebif there are two default gateways, everything will halt05:31
Catoptromancyjust 1 folder, I also took it off external05:31
Catoptromancyeven on normal hardrive it closes05:31
mars_keb: i am sure, all stuff i typed in is correct05:31
felicianoHello... I need to vitualize win2k over xubuntu... what app do you recommend me??05:31
kebi'm stumped, gtg anyways. good luck05:34
felicianoNobody use vmware or another option?05:35
Catoptromancylike using both?05:37
Catoptromancyduel boot?05:37
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nealmcbprobably time to drop UbuntuOpenWeek from the topic05:56
nealmcbI just live-booted xubuntu feisty, and was surprised to find no menu bar at the top, no panel, and no access to the apps menu via the right mouse button.  Just the desktop with some icons on the left.  I finally found the option to put an apps menu on the right button but it took a while.  Screenshots at xubuntu.org are different - any idea what might have gone wrong?05:58
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Catoptromancyheh06:00
CatoptromancyI found the bad file06:00
CatoptromancyI just made an archive of the bad folder06:00
Catoptromancymake a new folder and took all the files out by one06:00
BFTDfor some weird reason, FF2 isn't taking input from my keyboard06:00
Catoptromancyuntil one crashed Thunar06:00
Catoptromancyyay06:01
Catoptromancythat 1 file kept crashing Thunar, extracted the whole folder06:01
Catoptromancy-the file i deleted06:01
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grazienealmcb: with the live cd it that shouldn't be happening. How much ram?06:02
grazienealmcb: to start up the panel hit alt+f2 and enter 'xfce4-panel'06:03
nealmcbgrazie: 256 MB ram06:03
grazienealmcb: should be fine. Try the above ^^06:03
grazieBFTD: just FF or all X apps?  X keyboard driver can sometimes crash06:05
BFTDFF06:05
BFTDits ok06:06
BFTDI restarted it06:06
BFTDbut it was werid06:06
nealmcbgrazie: thanks - but on this tired-old 1999 dell latitude laptop, after a little water spill, the f2 key isn't working :-)  I know I can remap it though.  anyway I tried running the panel from the settings manager, and it doesn't do anything when I click on it.06:09
grazienealmcb: try running from a terminal. You may get a helpful error message if it doesn't work.06:11
grazienealmcb: so do 'xfce4-panel &'06:12
nealmcbgood idea - xfce4-panel:....  and it starts up!06:12
nealmcbhuh06:12
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nealmcband I see nothing odd in /var/log/* about "panel"06:15
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slow-motionhallo06:16
grazienealmcb: using feisty?06:16
nealmcbyes06:17
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grazienealmcb: the panel problem was quite common with edgy...looks like it's not completely sorted with feisty06:40
nealmcbgrazie: one other thing I noticed was a number of complaints about hdc (my cdrom) read errors during the boot (a long boot - took about 15 minutes - slow old machine.....)  some SQUASHFS errors also, shown in /var/log/dmesg06:45
nealmcbmaybe I should just be happy it booted at all :-)06:46
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nealmcbgrazie:  I'm adding a comment to  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/5389707:02
grazienealmcb: have you run the check cd option...sounds like you've either got a bad download or a bad burn.07:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 53897 in xfce4-panel "Disappearing panels Xubuntu dapper" [Undecided,Needs info] 07:02
nealmcb:-)07:02
nealmcbgrazie: I'll do that next time around and report back.  thanks for your help.07:03
grazienp07:03
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test3rhas ne1 experience with using GRUB and slack together????08:08
test3rand after adding slack to This, what will i have to add into GRUB and is that in /etc/grub.conf or the such?08:09
test3r"debian automagic kernels list" lol scripts.08:12
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test3rn/m i found it.  and then i remembered the crazy referencing it uses for the partitions. i'll have a use for that Gentoo manual after all!08:12
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wodferHi, anyone know how I can get Windows Media files to playback on my xubuntu 6.06?08:18
wodferI also have a problem with Firefox. Seems it does dns lookups or something when I enter urls and it takes like 30 seconds until it starts loading a page. A ping towards the same host is really quick. Any ideas?08:20
ReFoxedcould it be your isp?08:23
ReFoxedi had the same problem last night in the uk08:23
ReFoxedwoke up in ethe morning and it was fine08:23
ReFoxedi could ping google but not access it08:23
wodfernope, have another computer right next to it and this one's quick08:29
wodferreally strange... I should mention that this is my first xubuntu install, however I know FreeBSD quite well... There may be something I'm missing though...08:30
wodferok, solved the firefox issue. Was a DNS setup problem.08:34
ReFoxedahh good08:35
ReFoxeddidnt see the screen blink08:35
wodferAnyone know how I can get Windows Media to play on Xubuntu? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats the command doesn't work for me. I'm just getting couldn't find package...08:36
wodfercheers :-)08:36
ReFoxedi think gstreamer only works with gnome08:37
ReFoxedfor totem08:37
ReFoxedthere is a special pack for xine08:37
ReFoxedXine extra plugins08:38
wodfercool. Will see if I can find it through synaptics08:39
ReFoxedonly codec pack i have installed08:39
ReFoxedits in the add/remove applicatiosn too08:39
wodferdo you know what the package is called?08:40
ReFoxedXine extra plugins08:41
ReFoxedin the add remove applications08:41
ReFoxedwith "all available applications" shown08:41
ReFoxedin the top right08:42
wodferhmm *looking*08:42
ReFoxedits best just to get that as some apps rely on the gxine engine08:42
ReFoxedlike amarok08:42
ReFoxedor go in synaptic and search for xine codecs08:43
ReFoxedsure it will be there08:43
wodferfunny, can't find add/remove apps. I had this in Ubuntu on another machine, but can't locate it on this fresh xubuntu 6.06 install08:45
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ReFoxedhmmm08:45
ReFoxednever used 6.06 xubuntu08:45
ReFoxedi am on 7.0408:46
wodferok, 7.04 didnt work on my laptop08:46
wodfer6 worked fine08:46
ReFoxedi am sure it had a version of it08:47
ReFoxedmust of!08:47
wodferok see ya08:47
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Carsten[GER1Hi there. I figured out my sounddriver is likely to be ad1848 but somehow I cannot guess the right configuration. Where can I get irq/dma/io datas from?08:55
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ReFoxedlshw has some info08:57
h3sp4wnfor isa ?08:58
ReFoxednot sure :/08:58
Carsten[GER1it is listed in lspci but like the other card likely identified as isa09:00
h3sp4wnIs it ibm ? (there is a wierd one that uses both isa and pci)09:01
Carsten[GER1 product: NM2200 [MagicMedia 256AV Audio] 09:01
Carsten[GER1comes with lshw09:02
Carsten[GER1Notebook: Acer Travelmate 720tx, sound: NeoMagic NM220 (snd-nm256 for alsa)09:02
Carsten[GER1but before i try alsa i wanna check out oss, on my other notebok it worked fine09:02
Carsten[GER1mo09:03
Carsten[GER1mh, when i wanna grep the lshw info... how can I tell him to output +/- 5lines to the match?09:03
h3sp4wnCarsten[GER1: grep -B 5 -A 509:05
Carsten[GER1hesp4wn... you wanna have a look on lshw output?09:05
Carsten[GER1oh great thx09:06
Carsten[GER1i knew there has to be  something... i know few perl09:06
h3sp4wnCarsten[GER1: Ok - looks like its the same audio chip used on the ibm thinkpad 390 (not 390E)09:07
h3sp4wnhttp://www.linups.org/modules/doc/documentos/thinkpad-us/thinkpad-us.html#sonido (its in french though I think the sound part of it)09:07
Carsten[GER1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19156/09:08
Carsten[GER1ill check09:08
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Carsten[GER1...compile external modules?!09:10
h3sp4wnad1848 ?09:11
Carsten[GER1i thinks its really time to read a BIG book on linux09:11
Carsten[GER1=S09:11
Carsten[GER1yep09:11
h3sp4wnhttp://users.ece.gatech.edu/rbutera/omnibook900.html09:11
Carsten[GER1looks good09:12
h3sp4wnIts finding the clean way to do it though09:12
Carsten[GER1similar to page i found... but where to determine the io/irq/dma values from?`09:13
Carsten[GER1when i try omnibook values - device not found09:13
h3sp4wnio=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 (does it not work with those)09:13
Carsten[GER1thats what they give09:13
Carsten[GER1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19156/09:13
Carsten[GER1lshw output09:14
h3sp4wnIts the isa part of it that is important09:14
h3sp4wnI am not even sure whether the isa stuff is in ubuntu (or what the newest package is to do it)09:15
Carsten[GER1hm on my other card there was also a problem using (not using) isa09:16
Carsten[GER1but it worked out with sb09:16
Carsten[GER1too bad not on this one09:16
h3sp4wnsudo modprobe -r ad1848 && sudo modprobe ad1848 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 (does that not work?)09:18
Carsten[GER1check09:19
Carsten[GER1no such device09:20
Carsten[GER1isa bridge has irq 909:20
Carsten[GER1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19156/09:20
h3sp4wnyou might have to do - sudo modprobe ad1848 isapnp=0 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=109:20
Carsten[GER1ah ok09:20
Carsten[GER1i think io-range is wrong09:21
Carsten[GER1where can i get it? on my campaq i could write it off the bios... not here09:21
h3sp4wnProblem is I don't remember what the isa utils are09:21
h3sp4wn(other than isapnp-tools but I think that is obsolete09:21
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Carsten[GER1pnp-isa?09:22
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Carsten[GER1istalling xubuntu alternate comes with alsa?09:25
h3sp4wnShould do09:26
h3sp4wnthe commercial oss drivers would probably "just work"09:26
h3sp4wnCarsten[GER1: Did you try using  modprobe snd-nm256;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss09:28
h3sp4wn(that is what the alsa page seems to say for that card) dunno how it would work though if its one of the dual pci and isa ones09:29
Carsten[GER1hm09:32
Carsten[GER1getting tired but bid thx for constant help09:32
h3sp4wnCarsten[GER1: try these drivers - http://www.4front-tech.com/download.cgi (just get the deb) maybe if they work you will get the settings09:35
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Carsten[GER1dpkg  --iing09:41
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xjkxi installed xubuntu and it doesnt boot, freezes on tsc clocksource installed, i tried boot options: nolapic, noacpi, vga=771, vga=normal, cevesa, e=true, no876, gdth=disable:y09:45
xjkxAnd i cant boot09:45
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h3sp4wnxjkx: tried acpi=off ?09:46
xjkxnoacpi, acpi=off, apic=off yes09:46
xjkxtried everything a website told me to09:47
xjkxa ubuntu one09:47
h3sp4wnirqpoll ?09:47
xjkxuhmm irqpoll not09:47
h3sp4wnis it a laptop / desktop - how old ?09:47
xjkxit is a desktop semprom 2600+09:47
h3sp4wntried a bios upgrade ?09:48
h3sp4wndid the live-cd boot ?09:48
h3sp4wndid you try noapic (as well as nolapic)09:48
xjkxthe livecd booted and i installed for it, what about bios upgrade? yes i tried noapic09:48
h3sp4wndapper / edgy / feisty ?09:49
xjkxand nolapic09:49
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xjkxi dont kno what it means but i saw feisty somewhere written09:49
h3sp4wnthere is 3 still current versions of ubuntu (with those codenames)09:49
xjkxuhmm09:49
xjkxwhat do they differs?09:50
h3sp4wnolder -> newer09:50
xjkxis mine newer?09:50
xjkxfesity09:51
keb6.06 / 6.10 / 7.0409:52
xjkxuhmm but it doesnt boot ;/09:53
kebwhat does it do09:54
xjkxkeb it doesnt do :P10:03
xjkxfreezes before boot10:04
h3sp4wnCarsten[GER1: did they work ?10:04
xjkxI choose the kernel10:04
xjkxit freezes on "starting up"10:04
Carsten[GER1hm failed to install10:04
xjkxThen i removed the quit slashsomething10:04
Carsten[GER1no headers10:04
Carsten[GER1when i installed headers... oss was crashed10:04
Carsten[GER1soundon... reboot10:04
xjkxAnd i saw the message error, which was none, just freezes on timesource installed10:04
Carsten[GER1i need a break10:05
Carsten[GER1i will read some and come back later... CU10:05
Carsten[GER1(callin it a day for now)10:05
xjkxkeb what do you think?10:05
kebdunno. what is "timesource installed"?10:06
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odathi everyone10:07
kalikianahi odat10:07
xjkxkeb no idea, just one of the firstest messages10:08
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xjkxit can read my keyboard its like input: AT keyboard 2 /input/something10:09
xjkxIf i keep the keyboard it freezes on keyboard line10:09
xjkxif i unplug on boot, it freezes on the timesource thing10:10
odatkalikiana, whats up?10:14
kalikianaodat, Well, I'm currently coding my web browser. :P10:15
kebxjkx does that machine boot into any other live cd ?10:22
xjkxit booted the livecd i used to install10:27
xjkxkeb,10:27
xjkx:P10:27
kebxjkx do you have a usb keyboard?10:28
kebi saw this happen once when i installed dapper on a usb-only machine10:29
kebor something similar10:29
xjkxi have a usb mouse10:29
xjkxmy keyboard is ps/210:29
kebhmm10:29
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kebxjkx was there a memtest boot option to try?10:31
xjkxyes, havent tried10:31
kebit is also possible that something got corrupted on hard disk when it installed10:32
kebin which case you have to install it again  :>10:32
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xjkxi might try10:35
xjkxi am on livecd now what can i lose10:35
xjkxheh10:35
JJNovaAre there advantages to xfce to gnome? I'm having a hard time finding a website that's remotely "fair" in it's analysis10:37
JJNovaxfce vs gnome. I use gnome currently.10:38
h3sp4wnJJNova: xfce is less wasteful - feels snappier10:38
xjkxand light10:38
kebless wasteful or one less layer of indirection and object-oriented gui stuff?10:38
Howdy125noticeably faster .. :)10:39
JJNovaWhat about software support as related to KDE and Gnome10:39
JJNova?10:39
h3sp4wnYou can run either (with the libs preloaded if you want)10:39
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xjkxkeb just tell me if it runs on reiserfs10:40
kebxjkx i use reiserfs it works10:40
xjkxgreat10:40
h3sp4wnreiserfs works - its the fsck that not good10:41
h3sp4wn(and it takes forever to mount if you have alot of partitions)10:41
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slow-motionn810:50
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GerroI found this quote in some random forum, what is he talking about? "Xubuntu only installs the i386 kernel by default. To speed up the overall performance, one should install the i686 kernel from the repos (assuming you are running a Pentium II or better)"10:59
kebthat was in dapper i think, you could get a separate 386 and 686 kernel11:00
Catoptromancyhmmmm11:02
Catoptromancyis that on same CD/iso?11:03
Catoptromancyi didnt even know I had an i686, until I ran "arch"11:03
Catoptromancyheh11:03
kalikianaDoes anyone know how I can stop claws mail (sylpheed claws) from connecting to the mail servers on quit?11:04
grazieCatoptromancy: If you want to improve system performance it well worth taking the time to compile the kernel from source to match your specific cpu.11:06
kebhmm i might try that grazie.  however it is more work every time there is a security update11:12
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h3sp4wnIf you trim it down to just what you need you can build a kernel in 10 mins max11:17
h3sp4wn(make-kpkg is slow)11:17
h3sp4wnsame thing with - make -jX is significantly faster11:17
h3sp4wn(but you don't get a deb)11:18
kebhmm11:19
kebwith a custom kernel, is the boot and modules setup all the same?11:19
xjkxwhat?is i386 slower than i686?11:23
xjkxi frankly never got those arch names11:23
xjkxi have a semprom 2600+ all i know11:23
kebit is ancient history xjkx.  i686 is a newer generation than i386 by several years11:24
xjkxi think my semprom 2600+ isnt old generation11:25
kebthe sempron 2600+ is nominally equivalent to an Intel Pentium4 running at 2600 MHz11:26
kebor is that Celeron11:26
xjkxits internal clock is 1.8 lmao, amd is funny, then i think it wouldnt be equivalent11:26
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xjkxi believe intel name its cpu as its internal clock11:27
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TailsfanHow do I get MP3 Support on Xubuntu?11:30
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xjkxnew xubuntu installation, -goes to try-11:31
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Tailsfan!ubotu MP3 Support11:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:31
Pumpernickel!mp311:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:32
snook353will my native raelink driver remain if i upgrade?11:32
snook353my wireless driver for a linksys wireless pci card11:33
TailsfanWill that tutorial work for Xubuntu?11:33
PumpernickelPossibly, if it has a section on xine.11:34
PumpernickelIf not, install libxine-extracodecs if you're on Edgy, or libxine1-ffmpeg if you're on Feisty.11:35
TailsfanThen it would be the Feisty one11:35
TailsfanI have Xubuntu 7.04 up11:35
graziesnook353: the upgrade will require a new kernel, so the driver will need to be rebuilt.That means the driver will remain and work with the old kerne, but not the new one.11:37
snook353oh, ok.11:37
snook353i never though about removing the old kernel!11:38
snook353i've got an old one still11:38
snook353do i need to do anything extra to install the iso from a usb drive?11:41
grazie!install | snook35311:42
ubotusnook353: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate11:42
snook353!automate11:45
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning11:45
snook353!cloning11:45
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate11:45
kebnice11:46
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xjkxfinally installed !11:46
xjkxlet me ask something,11:46
xjkxif its supposed to run on 64mb of memory machines, how come my free -m has "Mem:           488        297        190          0         41        171" with 297 mb used?11:47
kebxjkx it runs but uses swap space11:48
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xjkxkeb: lol :P11:54
xjkxso it needs 297 at all?11:54
kebit needs as much virtual RAM as required by the stuff you run11:54
xjkxkubuntu needs 256, then i'd guess they arent counting swap neither11:55
xjkxbut we are talking about default installations, its my first boot ;)11:56
xjkxall i have here is gaim and a xterm11:56
kebif you type top in the xterm you will see how much memory each app uses11:57
PumpernickelThere's a difference between the amount of ram being used and the amount of ram that's been allocated.11:57
kebthen press M to sort by memory11:57
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xjkxwhat about the mp3 thing?couldnt wait the answer of the question the guy did just before i quited, you could paste to me :D11:58
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xjkxthe codec11:58
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TheSheep!mp3 | xjkx11:58
ubotuxjkx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:59
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xjkx:D11:59
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test3rgaaaaaaaaaaah lag. hey why can i only seed disk two and not disk one crazy crazy computers12:04
test3rits for a distro! it should b from the same servers ud think12:05
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xjkxhow do i block screensaver?12:11
xjkxlike when i move it ask me for a password12:11
xjkxto come back12:11
Jester45is there a reason im not getting to many updates?12:12
Jester45or maybe it just im not seeing them12:12
Jester45xjkx: you could uninstall it12:12
xjkxi want the screensaver, but i want it to expect a password to come back to the system12:13
xjkxi am checking screensaver settings12:13
Jester45there is a setting to enable/disable the password checking12:13
xjkxcouldnt find :>12:14
xjkxgrab video blabla12:14
xjkxin advance12:14
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