/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/05/05/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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nixternalanyone know if Riddell or anyone else for that matter has built the new KDE 4 alpha yet?01:26
crimsunwhen was it released?01:28
nixternalwell it is on FTP01:28
crimsunI'd be surprised if he had built it en-route to UDS, but...01:28
nixternalya01:28
nixternalthe tarball has been up for a couple of days it seems, but when they do the official announcement I don't know01:29
nixternalI am having issues with it running in Xephyr now, my SVN build01:29
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nixternaljdong: holla!02:38
jdongnixternal: hey :)02:39
nixternalwhy haven't you hooked up my forums account with some dev lovin' yet ;)02:39
jdongnixternal: oops, sorry, thought you didn't ask.02:39
nixternaleveryone else has that cool stuff, but all I have is a cup full of stale coffee02:39
jdongI'll do that right now :)02:39
nixternalhahahaha02:39
=== nixternal wishes kubuntuforums & ubuntuforums would merge
jdongok, I think that's how to do it....02:40
jdongnixternal: the tag is there; check that your loco mod privs still work02:41
jdong:D02:41
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jdongit would be interesting to talk with kubuntuforums about merging....02:41
nixternalmy mod privs look ok from here02:41
jdongwhen they started, it was under unamicable terms02:41
nixternalcool, thanks :)02:41
nixternalit all works02:41
jdongi.e. they did not feel content with the way Kubuntu was handled on Ubuntuforums and didn't talk to us about it before splitting off02:42
nixternalahhh02:42
jdongwe'd be happy to talk to them anytime they want though02:42
nixternalthere is a lot of good Kubuntu info on their forums as well02:42
jdongit would be nice to unite all of *buntu into One :)02:42
nixternalonly makes sense02:42
jdongright02:42
=== jdong sends off e-mail to forum council list....
nixternalfor what? kubuntu forums? :)02:44
nixternalgo gettum02:44
jdongyep02:45
jdongprobably won't happen this month; our plate is quite full of other things to handle02:45
nixternalya, building KDE4 is so much fun02:47
nixternals/ya/yay02:47
nixternalI want to see the latest improvements to Konsole badly02:47
jdonglol02:47
jdongsounds like fun02:48
jdonghasn't KDE4 Konsole FINALLY gotten gnome-terminal's new tab in current directory feature?02:48
jdong;-)02:48
nixternalI just keep forgetting that I am doing it in the background02:48
nixternaldunno, but I do know that it replaces yakuake's functionality and has some funky new notifications stuff02:48
jdongat any rate, your friendly SRU monster is one step closer to a massive KTorrent SRU02:49
nixternalrock on, I seen the commits02:49
jdongshould close 5+ unique bugs + their bazillion dupes02:49
nixternalawesome02:49
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imbrandonnixternal: you building packages or just compiling ?04:03
imbrandonand did you make MOTU or something ? /me missed that one04:03
crimsunhe should apply sometime.04:04
crimsunI'll be sure to reject his app with VISTA LOVER04:04
imbrandonhehe04:04
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nixternalimbrandon: compilin'05:14
nixternalimbrandon: well I was going to say something funny about not applying for MOTU, but crimsun beat me to it :)05:14
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Hobbseemorning all07:34
nixternalyou in Spain yet?07:35
nixternalif so, you are up damn early07:35
Hobbseeyep07:38
Hobbseeit's only 7.3007:38
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Hobbseethere were a few of us who left the restaurant kinda early (10.30 or so), and i just came back and collapsed into bed07:38
nixternalSpain is 7hrs ahead, thought they were only 5 or 6, especially with daylight savings07:40
nixternaloh ya, you are about as far east in Spain as you can get as well07:40
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nixternalhave you seen manchicken yet?07:41
nixternalhe is probably dead in bed07:41
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Hobbseenot sure if he's here yet07:41
Hobbseeguess he is07:41
nixternalya, he left early yesterday07:41
Hobbseehavent gone down for breakfast yet07:41
Hobbseeyeah07:41
Tm_Twhee08:03
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emonkey-pgreets to sevilla, I'm anxious to hear the results at the end of the UDS :)08:35
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GNUroHello12:44
GNUroWhy "apt-get install libqt4-dev-kdecopy" tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed? and many others important packages are no longer required( as kmix..ecc)?12:45
_StefanS_hi12:45
_StefanS_GNUro: dont know, sorry.12:45
GNUro_StefanS_: np! :(12:46
_StefanS_GNUro: hmm mine doesn't want to remove kubuntu-desktop though..12:46
_StefanS_GNUro: The following packages will be REMOVED: hwdb-client-kde libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql python-qt4 speedcrunch12:47
_StefanS_GNUro: The following NEW packages will be installed: libqt4-core-kdecopy libqt4-dev-kdecopy libqt4-gui-kdecopy libqt4-qt3support-kdecopy libqt4-sql-kdecopy12:47
_StefanS_so it seems like it would work12:47
GNUro_StefanS_: can you paste in the  http://rafb.net/paste your source.list? thanx...12:48
_StefanS_GNUro: np.. 2secs12:49
GNUro_StefanS_: probably i've a really dirty system... :(12:49
_StefanS_GNUro: http://rafb.net/p/J5Yr0c65.html12:50
GNUro_StefanS_: thnx! :)12:51
_StefanS_np ;)12:51
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sebbarhi, when will the next kde4.0 packages be available?07:33
Tm_Twhen ready07:33
Tm_Tsebbar: I assume UDS takes its own time, so maybe after that07:34
sebbarok cool tnx07:34
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raxivHey, I'd like to help Kubuntu.. I'm 18 years old, I'm good with web-graphics, and I've been using Linux as a desktop OS for like 2 years. Can someone show me the way? ; ) ( please don't flame! thanks )07:44
fdovingraxiv: i take it you want to work with graphics related things, like artwork?07:47
raxivactually yes.07:47
fdovingraxiv: reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork is a good start.07:47
raxivuh, didnt read over there, sorry. Reading it straight away.07:48
raxivI don't quite like the GNOME Env.07:48
raxivso I didn't use the Ubuntu - just Kubuntu.07:48
fdovingthat's not a problem, it's much the same :)07:48
raxiv; )07:49
raxivKubuntuArtwork wiki section is quite... empty.07:49
ScottKraxiv: A lot of people are travelling to the developer sprint this weekend, so this may not be the best time to be asking.07:51
raxivI can ( obviously ) upload my stuff at KDE-Look and Ubuntu-ART but isnt that like spamming?07:51
ScottKnixternal does a lot of documentation work for Kubuntu, so maybe he has an idea?07:51
raxivArent things coordinated?07:51
fdovingit is, i don't have much clue about artwork related things. i think our artwork-man is Kenneth Wimer, nick kwwii07:52
raxivScottK: I see.07:52
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raxiv: p07:52
raxivok then07:52
fdovingraxiv: contact this guy: https://launchpad.net/~kwwii07:52
raxivoh thanks for the contact fdoving07:52
fdovingraxiv: also, even if you want to work on kubuntu things #ubuntu-artwork might be helpfull. also, working with KDE upstream can be a good idea.07:53
raxivgonna send him a PM. Perhaps there is some help needed .07:53
ScottKraxiv: No need to worry to much about being flamed.  Kubuntu is very open to contribution.07:53
fdovingraxiv: http://kde.org/getinvolved/art/07:54
raxivScottK: Actually I imagine tons of noobs coming over here writing things like "plz let meh help I lern" ... so I'd like to catious.07:54
raxivid like to be cautious*07:55
raxivThanks for the word of advise people!07:55
jdongScottK: nice jab at #ubuntu-devel :D07:56
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raxivI got a job as a web-designer and I'm starting June so I'd like to get even more experience by helping here.07:56
ScottKjdong: No jab meant at all.07:57
\shraxiv, ask kwwii when he is online...afaik he is responsible for the graphical stuff for ubuntu and kubuntu07:58
\shkwwii also develops oxygene for kde07:58
raxivThey told me earlier \sh , thanks though : )07:58
\shraxiv, cool08:07
raxivwell I've sent him an e-mail.08:08
\shraxiv, try to catch him on irc during the conference in sevilla08:09
Tm_TIIRC for Gutsy, all artwork (graphics) goes thru kwwii08:09
raxivum...when is the conference, sorry? : )08:10
Tm_Traxiv: ...now08:10
Tm_Traxiv: look topic ;)08:10
raxivuh, sorry for my ignorance, I aint updated.08:10
raxivoh.08:10
\shraxiv, they are arriving today, and it starts officially tomorrow morning 9:00 a.m. sharp :)08:10
raxivright : p08:10
raxivI dont think he'll have time to chat about things with me ; )08:11
\shif it's not 9:00 a.m. sharp, something's wrong with sabdfl ;)08:11
raxivwell - i think he is the type of guy who checks his email.08:11
raxivso Ill be fine either way I think.08:11
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\shhmmm...kwwii is a crazy person ;)08:12
Tm_T<308:13
\shbut a nice one08:13
Tm_T<308:13
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fdovinghum.. http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu needs updating to 7.04 details.08:36
fdovingnixternal: you fix? ^^08:36
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nixternalfdoving: created a bug for it, I will wait for Matt to contact me to see if he wants some help with the page09:06
fdovingnixternal: nice, thanks a bunch. great response time too :)09:06
\shnixternal, you are not in sevilla?09:07
\shnixternal <---- he needs to be there....09:07
nixternalnope, not in Sevilla unfortunately09:07
nixternalwish I was though09:07
\shnixternal, you need to get a sponsoring from canonical...09:08
\shnext time09:08
nixternalnext time is Boston, and if school permits, I will be there09:09
nixternal\sh: they need to work around my schooling in order for me to make it though :)09:09
nixternalnext year I will be done with school. Actually in about 1 year or less to be exact09:09
\shnixternal, well, boston is for me another problem...they won't let me in09:09
nixternal\sh: I don't blame them ;p09:10
\shnixternal, lol09:10
nixternalhaha09:10
\shactually, they let me in, to lock me in09:10
nixternalthe liquor store by my house quit selling my favorite beer dangit!09:10
nixternalbut they do sell irn-bru of all things now, I love this store. 99.9% of the time if they don't have it, they get it the next day09:11
\shWTF09:12
\shRejected:09:12
\shMD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existent file in archive09:12
\shFiles specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.09:12
fdovingyou've been 0wn3d.09:12
\shit's a debian package09:12
\shand wtf09:12
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\shhmmm...09:22
\shLURE !09:22
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marseillaii got a problem with my klauncher10:02
marseillaievery applications i launch with it is launch in a konsole10:03
marseillaii really don't find a way to solve it10:03
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_StefanS_marseillai: what is it about?11:04
marseillaifdo ving explain me the solution11:04
_StefanS_marseillai: oka.11:04
marseillaii had a problem in my kdesktoprc11:04
_StefanS_marseillai: you can always try renaming your ~/.kde directory to test if you have some corrupted settings11:05
_StefanS_marseillai: in the future i mean11:05
_StefanS_I usually do that11:05
marseillai_StefanS_: yes i know this trick11:05
marseillaibut i don't really like this11:06
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claydohweee the worlds smallest loco i bet :011:38
claydohhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-maineiacs11:38
claydohhah wronfg window11:39
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