[01:26] <nixternal> anyone know if Riddell or anyone else for that matter has built the new KDE 4 alpha yet?
[01:28] <crimsun> when was it released?
[01:28] <nixternal> well it is on FTP
[01:28] <crimsun> I'd be surprised if he had built it en-route to UDS, but...
[01:28] <nixternal> ya
[01:29] <nixternal> the tarball has been up for a couple of days it seems, but when they do the official announcement I don't know
[01:29] <nixternal> I am having issues with it running in Xephyr now, my SVN build
[02:38] <nixternal> jdong: holla!
[02:39] <jdong> nixternal: hey :)
[02:39] <nixternal> why haven't you hooked up my forums account with some dev lovin' yet ;)
[02:39] <jdong> nixternal: oops, sorry, thought you didn't ask.
[02:39] <nixternal> everyone else has that cool stuff, but all I have is a cup full of stale coffee
[02:39] <jdong> I'll do that right now :)
[02:39] <nixternal> hahahaha
[02:40] <jdong> ok, I think that's how to do it....
[02:41] <jdong> nixternal: the tag is there; check that your loco mod privs still work
[02:41] <jdong> :D
[02:41] <jdong> it would be interesting to talk with kubuntuforums about merging....
[02:41] <nixternal> my mod privs look ok from here
[02:41] <jdong> when they started, it was under unamicable terms
[02:41] <nixternal> cool, thanks :)
[02:41] <nixternal> it all works
[02:42] <jdong> i.e. they did not feel content with the way Kubuntu was handled on Ubuntuforums and didn't talk to us about it before splitting off
[02:42] <nixternal> ahhh
[02:42] <jdong> we'd be happy to talk to them anytime they want though
[02:42] <nixternal> there is a lot of good Kubuntu info on their forums as well
[02:42] <jdong> it would be nice to unite all of *buntu into One :)
[02:42] <nixternal> only makes sense
[02:42] <jdong> right
[02:44] <nixternal> for what? kubuntu forums? :)
[02:44] <nixternal> go gettum
[02:45] <jdong> yep
[02:45] <jdong> probably won't happen this month; our plate is quite full of other things to handle
[02:47] <nixternal> ya, building KDE4 is so much fun
[02:47] <nixternal> s/ya/yay
[02:47] <nixternal> I want to see the latest improvements to Konsole badly
[02:47] <jdong> lol
[02:48] <jdong> sounds like fun
[02:48] <jdong> hasn't KDE4 Konsole FINALLY gotten gnome-terminal's new tab in current directory feature?
[02:48] <jdong> ;-)
[02:48] <nixternal> I just keep forgetting that I am doing it in the background
[02:48] <nixternal> dunno, but I do know that it replaces yakuake's functionality and has some funky new notifications stuff
[02:49] <jdong> at any rate, your friendly SRU monster is one step closer to a massive KTorrent SRU
[02:49] <nixternal> rock on, I seen the commits
[02:49] <jdong> should close 5+ unique bugs + their bazillion dupes
[02:49] <nixternal> awesome
[04:03] <imbrandon> nixternal: you building packages or just compiling ?
[04:03] <imbrandon> and did you make MOTU or something ? /me missed that one
[04:04] <crimsun> he should apply sometime.
[04:04] <crimsun> I'll be sure to reject his app with VISTA LOVER
[04:04] <imbrandon> hehe
[05:14] <nixternal> imbrandon: compilin'
[05:14] <nixternal> imbrandon: well I was going to say something funny about not applying for MOTU, but crimsun beat me to it :)
[07:34] <Hobbsee> morning all
[07:35] <nixternal> you in Spain yet?
[07:35] <nixternal> if so, you are up damn early
[07:38] <Hobbsee> yep
[07:38] <Hobbsee> it's only 7.30
[07:38] <Hobbsee> there were a few of us who left the restaurant kinda early (10.30 or so), and i just came back and collapsed into bed
[07:40] <nixternal> Spain is 7hrs ahead, thought they were only 5 or 6, especially with daylight savings
[07:40] <nixternal> oh ya, you are about as far east in Spain as you can get as well
[07:41] <nixternal> have you seen manchicken yet?
[07:41] <nixternal> he is probably dead in bed
[07:41] <Hobbsee> not sure if he's here yet
[07:41] <Hobbsee> guess he is
[07:41] <nixternal> ya, he left early yesterday
[07:41] <Hobbsee> havent gone down for breakfast yet
[07:41] <Hobbsee> yeah
[08:03] <Tm_T> whee
[08:35] <emonkey-p> greets to sevilla, I'm anxious to hear the results at the end of the UDS :)
[12:44] <GNUro> Hello
[12:45] <GNUro> Why "apt-get install libqt4-dev-kdecopy" tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed? and many others important packages are no longer required( as kmix..ecc)?
[12:45] <_StefanS_> hi
[12:45] <_StefanS_> GNUro: dont know, sorry.
[12:46] <GNUro> _StefanS_: np! :(
[12:46] <_StefanS_> GNUro: hmm mine doesn't want to remove kubuntu-desktop though..
[12:47] <_StefanS_> GNUro: The following packages will be REMOVED: hwdb-client-kde libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql python-qt4 speedcrunch
[12:47] <_StefanS_> GNUro: The following NEW packages will be installed: libqt4-core-kdecopy libqt4-dev-kdecopy libqt4-gui-kdecopy libqt4-qt3support-kdecopy libqt4-sql-kdecopy
[12:47] <_StefanS_> so it seems like it would work
[12:48] <GNUro> _StefanS_: can you paste in the  http://rafb.net/paste your source.list? thanx...
[12:49] <_StefanS_> GNUro: np.. 2secs
[12:49] <GNUro> _StefanS_: probably i've a really dirty system... :(
[12:50] <_StefanS_> GNUro: http://rafb.net/p/J5Yr0c65.html
[12:51] <GNUro> _StefanS_: thnx! :)
[12:51] <_StefanS_> np ;)
[07:33] <sebbar> hi, when will the next kde4.0 packages be available?
[07:33] <Tm_T> when ready
[07:34] <Tm_T> sebbar: I assume UDS takes its own time, so maybe after that
[07:34] <sebbar> ok cool tnx
[07:44] <raxiv> Hey, I'd like to help Kubuntu.. I'm 18 years old, I'm good with web-graphics, and I've been using Linux as a desktop OS for like 2 years. Can someone show me the way? ; ) ( please don't flame! thanks )
[07:47] <fdoving> raxiv: i take it you want to work with graphics related things, like artwork?
[07:47] <raxiv> actually yes.
[07:47] <fdoving> raxiv: reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork is a good start.
[07:48] <raxiv> uh, didnt read over there, sorry. Reading it straight away.
[07:48] <raxiv> I don't quite like the GNOME Env.
[07:48] <raxiv> so I didn't use the Ubuntu - just Kubuntu.
[07:48] <fdoving> that's not a problem, it's much the same :)
[07:49] <raxiv> ; )
[07:49] <raxiv> KubuntuArtwork wiki section is quite... empty.
[07:51] <ScottK> raxiv: A lot of people are travelling to the developer sprint this weekend, so this may not be the best time to be asking.
[07:51] <raxiv> I can ( obviously ) upload my stuff at KDE-Look and Ubuntu-ART but isnt that like spamming?
[07:51] <ScottK> nixternal does a lot of documentation work for Kubuntu, so maybe he has an idea?
[07:51] <raxiv> Arent things coordinated?
[07:52] <fdoving> it is, i don't have much clue about artwork related things. i think our artwork-man is Kenneth Wimer, nick kwwii
[07:52] <raxiv> ScottK: I see.
[07:52] <raxiv> : p
[07:52] <raxiv> ok then
[07:52] <fdoving> raxiv: contact this guy: https://launchpad.net/~kwwii
[07:52] <raxiv> oh thanks for the contact fdoving
[07:53] <fdoving> raxiv: also, even if you want to work on kubuntu things #ubuntu-artwork might be helpfull. also, working with KDE upstream can be a good idea.
[07:53] <raxiv> gonna send him a PM. Perhaps there is some help needed .
[07:53] <ScottK> raxiv: No need to worry to much about being flamed.  Kubuntu is very open to contribution.
[07:54] <fdoving> raxiv: http://kde.org/getinvolved/art/
[07:54] <raxiv> ScottK: Actually I imagine tons of noobs coming over here writing things like "plz let meh help I lern" ... so I'd like to catious.
[07:55] <raxiv> id like to be cautious*
[07:55] <raxiv> Thanks for the word of advise people!
[07:56] <jdong> ScottK: nice jab at #ubuntu-devel :D
[07:56] <raxiv> I got a job as a web-designer and I'm starting June so I'd like to get even more experience by helping here.
[07:57] <ScottK> jdong: No jab meant at all.
[07:58] <\sh> raxiv, ask kwwii when he is online...afaik he is responsible for the graphical stuff for ubuntu and kubuntu
[07:58] <\sh> kwwii also develops oxygene for kde
[07:58] <raxiv> They told me earlier \sh , thanks though : )
[08:07] <\sh> raxiv, cool
[08:08] <raxiv> well I've sent him an e-mail.
[08:09] <\sh> raxiv, try to catch him on irc during the conference in sevilla
[08:09] <Tm_T> IIRC for Gutsy, all artwork (graphics) goes thru kwwii
[08:10] <raxiv> um...when is the conference, sorry? : )
[08:10] <Tm_T> raxiv: ...now
[08:10] <Tm_T> raxiv: look topic ;)
[08:10] <raxiv> uh, sorry for my ignorance, I aint updated.
[08:10] <raxiv> oh.
[08:10] <\sh> raxiv, they are arriving today, and it starts officially tomorrow morning 9:00 a.m. sharp :)
[08:10] <raxiv> right : p
[08:11] <raxiv> I dont think he'll have time to chat about things with me ; )
[08:11] <\sh> if it's not 9:00 a.m. sharp, something's wrong with sabdfl ;)
[08:11] <raxiv> well - i think he is the type of guy who checks his email.
[08:11] <raxiv> so Ill be fine either way I think.
[08:12] <\sh> hmmm...kwwii is a crazy person ;)
[08:13] <Tm_T> <3
[08:13] <\sh> but a nice one
[08:13] <Tm_T> <3
[08:36] <fdoving> hum.. http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu needs updating to 7.04 details.
[08:36] <fdoving> nixternal: you fix? ^^
[09:06] <nixternal> fdoving: created a bug for it, I will wait for Matt to contact me to see if he wants some help with the page
[09:06] <fdoving> nixternal: nice, thanks a bunch. great response time too :)
[09:07] <\sh> nixternal, you are not in sevilla?
[09:07] <\sh> nixternal <---- he needs to be there....
[09:07] <nixternal> nope, not in Sevilla unfortunately
[09:07] <nixternal> wish I was though
[09:08] <\sh> nixternal, you need to get a sponsoring from canonical...
[09:08] <\sh> next time
[09:09] <nixternal> next time is Boston, and if school permits, I will be there
[09:09] <nixternal> \sh: they need to work around my schooling in order for me to make it though :)
[09:09] <nixternal> next year I will be done with school. Actually in about 1 year or less to be exact
[09:09] <\sh> nixternal, well, boston is for me another problem...they won't let me in
[09:10] <nixternal> \sh: I don't blame them ;p
[09:10] <\sh> nixternal, lol
[09:10] <nixternal> haha
[09:10] <\sh> actually, they let me in, to lock me in
[09:10] <nixternal> the liquor store by my house quit selling my favorite beer dangit!
[09:11] <nixternal> but they do sell irn-bru of all things now, I love this store. 99.9% of the time if they don't have it, they get it the next day
[09:12] <\sh> WTF
[09:12] <\sh> Rejected:
[09:12] <\sh> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existent file in archive
[09:12] <\sh> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[09:12] <fdoving> you've been 0wn3d.
[09:12] <\sh> it's a debian package
[09:12] <\sh> and wtf
[09:22] <\sh> hmmm...
[09:22] <\sh> LURE !
[10:02] <marseillai> i got a problem with my klauncher
[10:03] <marseillai> every applications i launch with it is launch in a konsole
[10:03] <marseillai> i really don't find a way to solve it
[11:04] <_StefanS_> marseillai: what is it about?
[11:04] <marseillai> fdo ving explain me the solution
[11:04] <_StefanS_> marseillai: oka.
[11:04] <marseillai> i had a problem in my kdesktoprc
[11:05] <_StefanS_> marseillai: you can always try renaming your ~/.kde directory to test if you have some corrupted settings
[11:05] <_StefanS_> marseillai: in the future i mean
[11:05] <_StefanS_> I usually do that
[11:05] <marseillai> _StefanS_: yes i know this trick
[11:06] <marseillai> but i don't really like this
[11:38] <claydoh> weee the worlds smallest loco i bet :0
[11:38] <claydoh> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-maineiacs
[11:39] <claydoh> hah wronfg window