[12:14] <Dragnslcr> You happen to know offhand if VMWare is better or worse than Wine for performance (or just in general)?
[12:14] <Alonea> morvok: ok, I will look at that too. the main thing is, I do so many different things and its like, not just one OS can satisfy all the things I want to do.
[12:14] <nuu> typically you just create a standard virtual machine, put your installation cd in the drive, and start the VM
[12:15] <Dragnslcr> I have an Athlon AM2, which supposedly has a lot of optimizations for virtual machines
[12:15] <morvok> Alonea: than virtual machines could be perfect for you :)
[12:16] <Alonea> morvok: indeed. I am already dual booting windows and linux as it is. Also, what is the difference between VM Server and VM Player?
[12:16] <morvok> vm player is for binary applications.. vmServer is for running a complete OS.
[12:17] <Alonea> morvok: ok. thanks. I will try this after dinner. hopefully I wont screw everything up
[12:18] <morvok> Alonea: good luck..
[12:21] <Dragnslcr> morvok- you know offhand if VMWare server is in the repository?
[12:22] <morvok> Dragnslcr: It won't be becuase its not a free liciense
[12:22] <Dragnslcr> Ah, gotcha
[12:23] <morvok> Dragnslcr: I believe Qemu is though.
[12:23] <morvok> Dragnslcr: it a wee bit more difficult to manage though.
[12:23] <morvok> no GUI either.
[12:25] <Dragnslcr> There's a vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 package in restricted/misc
[12:26] <jussi01> !vmware
[12:26] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:27] <tatters> I found this howto only took 5 mins to setup V easy http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[12:27] <jussi01> netsplit
[12:27] <jussi01> lol
[12:27] <Daisuke_Ido> cute
[12:27] <roym> lol
[12:27] <jussi01> !netsplit
[12:28] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:28] <Daisuke_Ido> can we get a little server maintenance?
[12:28] <Dragnslcr> I think that's what we are getting
[12:28] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, a little more CAREFUL server maintenance :)
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> Nice, thanks tatters
[12:31] <Filthpig> hi all
[12:32] <jussi01> !hi | Filthpig
[12:32] <ubotu> Filthpig: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:32] <LinkCanabico> Filthpig Hi
[12:33] <Filthpig> I want to turn one of my harddrives off (as in cut power, not umount).. I remember once I booted the kernel with the -no-acpi flag, and then that specific drive turned itself off when not active (which reduced the noise from my computer quite remarkably)... Now I want to disable the disk without using the -no-acpi flag
[12:33] <Filthpig> does anyone know how to do this?
[12:34] <baskitcaise> Filthpig: have a look at hdparm, this can shutdown disks and stuff like acoustic management assuming your drive handles it
[12:35] <tatters> o0(pull the plug)
[12:35] <sichemist> baskitcaise: Except it doesn't work with the new kernels-- They set every drive up as scsi
[12:35] <Filthpig> hehe tatters, I'd like to, but I need the disk to wake up when I need it
[12:36] <Filthpig> which it did with -no-acpi
[12:36] <Dragnslcr> Speaking of which, will Kubuntu autodetect a new SATA hard drive if I plug one in?
[12:36] <Filthpig> !sata
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <Filthpig> !S-ata
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s-ata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <Filthpig> hm
[12:37] <LinkCanabico> Filthpig abut the autodetect YES
[12:38] <k3ks> Hi!
[12:38] <k3ks> I've got a problem
[12:38] <Filthpig> LinkCanabico: I did not ask about autodetect :p
[12:38] <k3ks> this problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2579757#post2579757
[12:38] <LinkCanabico> sory it wass ment to Dragnslcr:
[12:38] <Dragnslcr> LinkCanabico- thanks
[12:39] <k3ks> i already askedt it in other channels, but no one knew a solution
[12:39] <Dragnslcr> I still have some files I have to pull off my old Windows box
[12:39] <k3ks> has anybody a cluehow to solfe it?
[12:39] <k3ks> solve
[12:44] <tatters> My second hard drive is 114 GB  NTFS, been using it as main storrage for docs/music films etc had no problems so far using ntfs-ng
[12:45] <k3ks> does anyone know about berl problems on kubuntu feisty?
[12:45] <k3ks> problems like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2579757#post2579757
[12:47] <sichemist> NightBird: Can you rename it under linux?
[12:47] <NightBird> sichemist, probably...
[12:47] <NightBird> I've had too many problems with getting grub to work right that I haven't had the chance to reboot into linux yet
[12:47] <sichemist> I imagine that would be the easiest solution
[12:47] <Filthpig> !pastebin
[12:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:47] <NightBird> I guess I could probably go with a live cd and do it then
[12:48] <sichemist> NightBird: That's what I would do.
[12:48] <SubOne> where can i go for information on how to get a digital camera working because digikam cannot get the images from it
[12:49] <sichemist> SubOne: I usually try google: Linux+cameraname
[12:50] <SubOne> sichemist: I have googled.
[12:51] <sichemist> What's the camera?
[12:51] <SubOne> Kodak EasyShare v530
[12:53] <sichemist> SubOne: Another possible workaround is to buy a card reader for whatever memory device your camera uses.
[12:53] <sichemist> I prefer the cardreaders myself
[12:53] <SubOne> Right, I'd prefer to have the camera read...
[12:53] <tatters> hmm Kodak notsoeasytoshareonlinux
[12:54] <SubOne> Unfortunately I don't have a job atm, can't go buy hardware
[12:54] <anon32> anyone know of an offline swf player?
[12:54] <tatters> any browser me thinks
[12:55] <tatters> as long as it supports swf obviously
[12:55] <Alonea> morvok: thanks for the luck. Going to read over this stuff and see if I understand it, and give it a shot. At least I have multiple harddrives, and if I really need to, I can back up one on an external harddrive that I have.
[12:56] <SubOne> So I guess no one can suggest any sites?
[12:56] <sichemist> SubOne: The gPhoto page says the Kodak v530 is supported...  I assumed that digikam uses libgphoto2 but maybe not...
[12:58] <sichemist> SubOne: Do you see anything in the log files when you plug it in?
[12:59] <SubOne> are they in /var/log/ somewhere... lemme check
[12:59] <sichemist> SubOne: Maybe you can do: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages and plug it in and remove it a couple of times.
[01:00] <phpcode> how to run dualscreen?
[01:00] <sichemist> !xinerama
[01:00] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[01:01] <anon32> xinerama also sucks
[01:01] <anon32> phpcode, what card do you have? most drivers have their own way to do dualhead
[01:02] <Bradstone> I have multiple resolutions listed in xorg.conf that aren't available for actual screen resolutions.... any reason why this may be?
[01:02] <anon32> Bradstone, xresprobe failed it? or because your display "supports" them but doesn't really support em? or because you added them?
[01:03] <phpcode> anon32: nvidia
[01:03] <Bradstone> Well, I didn't add them. I'm wondering about the "support" issue though
[01:03] <anon32> phpcode, look at nvidia's twinview... one sec
[01:04] <anon32> phpcode, ok, look at the xinerama page then, sorry for being wrong
[01:04] <anon32> see the section "nvidia", it'll walk you through twinview
[01:04] <SubOne> sichemist: it shows that i plugged it in
[01:05] <morla> Hi, can somebody give me a bit help with Firefox's "open with" settings, it drives me mad :-/
[01:05] <SubOne> morla: such as?
[01:05] <sichemist> SubOne: Well, that's good, I guess.  Have you tried gphoto, just for giggles?
[01:06] <sichemist> I'm not generally fond of GTK apps, but if it works...
[01:06] <morla> SubOne: it doesn't have video applications in the list, and doesn't remember the ones I picked. I have to go through /usr/bin/kaffeine every single time
[01:06] <SubOne> sichemist: dont think i have that
[01:07] <morla> SubOne: in all Kubuntu versions prior to Feisty it remembered the last used apps
[01:07] <SubOne> morla: it should remember them if they are the same file type... try asking in the #firefox channel
[01:07] <SubOne> morla: I have to say that I upgraded to fiesty and although I had some issues, that was not one of them
[01:07] <morla> SubOne: I'm positive it's a Kubuntu issue, don't know if the firefox ppl can help
[01:08] <sichemist> SubOne: You don't have it because I gave you the wrong name :/  It's gtkam.
[01:08] <SubOne> morla: although i use embedded mplayer
[01:08] <anon32> mplayer rules :-)
[01:08] <anon32> vlc is good too, but mplayer rules :-)
[01:08] <morla> SubOne: I'd do that too, but I need to keep the dialog that asks me if I want to play or save the file
[01:09] <SubOne> morla: I'm afraid I don't know, nor can I think of any reason why that would not be a firefox issue, assuming it really works the first time you search for the player
[01:09] <SubOne> sichemist: dont have that either lemme try to install it
[01:11] <morla> SubOne: ok :) I'll go and nag the #firefox crowd then
[01:11] <anon32> liek... why c4n7't i paly ne of my mp3z? wh4t da h3l1 15 wr0ng? do3s ne1 no?
[01:12] <Gerro> ux
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> anon32: could you repeat that?  maybe in english perhaps?
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[01:13] <anon32> :-)
[01:13] <SubOne> sichemist: gtkam says could not initialize camera
[01:13] <anon32> !1337
[01:13] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[01:13] <anon32> I love that one
[01:14] <sichemist> SubOne: Well we knew that already!  Is the camera on when you plug it in?  I noticed one page that says to turn it off before plugging it in.
[01:14] <SubOne> well it is off when i put it in the dock, then i hit a button on the dock which mounts it
[01:14] <SubOne> and then digikam tries to load
[01:15] <sichemist> SubOne: I dunno, dude.  I'm out of ideas.
[01:15] <SubOne> is there perhaps a better channel to ask?
[01:15] <phpcode> anon32: i dont understand it. me=noob
[01:15] <sichemist> SubOne: Maybe in #ubuntu
[01:15] <anon32> phpcode, eh? hmm.....
[01:16] <LinkCanabico>  SubOne conect the camera hit the buton and than conect the station to the PC
[01:16] <anon32> phpcode, shall I try to walk you through it? or do you want to give up?
[01:17] <SubOne> Um... that is what is happening
[01:17] <jordan> hey anybody does kubuntu default have a ctrl+alt+F8 goin or did i mess somethin up
[01:17] <SubOne> i think i may have a solution... sec
[01:17] <anon32> ctrl +alt + f8 should bring up the boot console
[01:18] <jordan> alright ty
[01:18] <SubOne> i dont think i have permission to access it
[01:18] <martalli> How can I see what sort of drive I have in this laptop from linux?
[01:18] <martalli> I was looking in /proc and can't find any info
[01:18] <phpcode> anon32: mine xorg file does not look anything near what is under "Here is mine:"
[01:18] <martalli> (looking for something like the tagline seagate <model no>, 100gb sata, etc
[01:18] <anon32> phpcode, NO Don't PASTE
[01:19] <sichemist> SubOne: are you in all the right groups?
[01:20] <phpcode> anon32: no, im not going to PASTE the code here in public chat. :)
[01:20] <anon32> hehe, you worried me for a second
[01:20] <sichemist> lol
[01:20] <phpcode> anon32: sorry :)
[01:21] <anon32> phpcode, it's not a problem that your xorg.conf doesn't look like that, just find the part in it which says [Section "Device"] 
[01:22] <phpcode> anon32: yes, ok.
[01:23] <anon32> phpcode, copy the option twinview, option renderaccel, and option useedidfreqs lines on the Xinerama howto exactly as they are there
[01:24] <phpcode> anon32: yes.
[01:24] <jujimufu> how do I watch the history of my command line?
[01:25] <sichemist> jujimufu: type history
[01:25] <anon32> phpcode, ok, now follow the instructions for setting your option "metamodes" line
[01:25] <LinkCanabico> jujimufu check "/home/yourname/.bash_history"
[01:26] <jujimufu> sichemist, LinkCanabico: thanks
[01:26] <sichemist> martalli: try this: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda
[01:26] <sichemist> or whatever your disk is.
[01:27] <sichemist> martalli: That's a capital "I" not a lowercase "L"
[01:28] <phpcode> anon32: copy the Option MetaModes 2?
[01:28] <anon32> phpcode, don't copy it, follow the instructions on the page to set that option for your system - basically you need to add:
[01:29] <anon32> Option "MetaModes" "resolutionofmonitor1,resolutionofmonitor2;anotherresolutionformonitor1,anotherresolutionformonitor2;etc1,etc2"
[01:29] <SubOne> yay i got it
[01:30] <LinkCanabico> SubOne: how?
[01:30] <longjohn77> can someone recommend a good VM that can do win xp?
[01:30] <SubOne> i set the usb device dir to 777
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> longjohn77: all of them
[01:30] <LinkCanabico> SubOne: congrats!!
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> vmware's probably your best bet
[01:31] <sichemist> SubOne: Will it survive a reboot?
[01:31] <longjohn77> Daisuke_Ido: alrighty, but what would I have to get? vmware-player and what else?
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> a premade xp vmware image :)
[01:32] <SubOne> sichemist: it appears it didnt even survive a removal of the camlol
[01:32] <sichemist> SubOne: What group has ownership?  Are you a member of that group?  I'll bet that's the prob.
[01:34] <SubOne> sichemist: lemme check
[01:34] <longjohn77> Daisuke_Ido: where would I find one
[01:35] <phpcode> anon32: done. if it is to high for the screens what will happen?
[01:35] <anon32> phpcode, it won't work :-)
[01:35] <anon32> probably, one of your monitors will have a scrolling screen
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> no idea...
[01:35] <anon32> phpcode, anyway, just make sure you set valid resolutions
[01:36] <martalli> sichemist:  thanks
[01:36] <phpcode> anon32: like 1280x1024?
[01:36] <anon32> phpcode, yeah, that sounds good
[01:36] <SubOne> if i add myself to a group do i need to restart then?
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe you could look around vmware's site and find out that vmware server is free.
[01:36] <sichemist> martalli: NP.  Did you get what you needed?  You might have to google the model number to get mfg.
[01:36] <anon32> if they're LCDs, that's probably the right number
[01:37] <martalli> sichemist:  Yes, that's the info I was looking for
[01:37] <sichemist> SubOne: Just log out and back in.
[01:37] <jpiccolo> does ram affect ftp transfer speed on a server?
[01:37] <SubOne> sichemist: k, ty
[01:37] <sichemist> SubOne: Sure.  Good luck
[01:38] <SubOne> oh im not leaving its another comp
[01:38] <phpcode> anon32: the worst thing that can happen is that i have to reinstall linux :)
[01:38] <anon32> lol, actually, the worst that can happen is that you have to reset your xorg.conf :-)
[01:38] <sichemist> SubOne: Ok, let us know whether it works.
[01:38] <martalli> sichemist:  Laptop drives have gotten so low in price that I think I will just get a nice fat new HD for my laptop
[01:39] <sichemist> martalli: Amazing isn't it?  They used to be super expensive.
[01:39] <SubOne> its loading...
[01:40] <martalli> sichemist:  Yeha, I hadn't even been looking until I decided to upgrade my wife's mac mini
[01:40] <SubOne> it says could not get file list for folder '/store_00010001/ an error occured in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not query kernel driver of device.... says same thing if i run gtkam as root
[01:40] <LHoT> hello everyone
[01:41] <Alonea> Ok, I have never tried to get my printer to work in linux before. To use it, I have to access it on the network from my dad's computer, which is windows. It is an HP All In One 2170
[01:41] <sichemist> SubOne: I dunno.  I thought that would do it.  Maybe just reboot out of desperation.
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: it should be insanely simple
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> PSC 2170?
[01:43] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: ok. Just never done it before and don't know where to start
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> the drivers are already there
[01:43] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: yes.
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> system settings > printers
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> add > add printer / class
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> and just follow the wizard from there
[01:44] <longjohn77> Daisuke_Ido: this is pretty confusing, lol
[01:44] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: ok. network printer?
[01:44] <longjohn77> Daisuke_Ido: so essentially I either need to search around for a premade XP vm image, or make my own?
[01:45] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: or the SMB shared printer?
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: i thought you were hooking it up locally
[01:45] <Snowman> evening folks.
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> longjohn77: get vmware server.  create a virtual image.  install xp on it.
[01:46] <SubOne> ok trying a restart
[01:46] <phpcode> anon32: the section "screen".. is that a copy/paste thing?
[01:46] <Snowman> Anyone know if there's an easy way to keep the kde wireless assistant from connecting to the first unsecured network it sees, as I'd really rather not have to tell it to connect to my lan each time.
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> longjohn77: just don't expect to play games
[01:46] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: Umm, Its hooked up to my dads computer in the other room. I have to access it from there on the network. His computer has to on for anyone to use it.
[01:46] <sichemist> longjohn77: Just to make things even more interesting, there's a VM called virtual box that's really good.  Free too.
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, then go with SMB shared printer
[01:46] <anon32> phpcode, no
[01:46] <sichemist> You'll have to make your own XP image, of course.
[01:46] <anon32> phpcode, locate your section "screen"
[01:47] <phpcode> anon32: yes.
[01:47] <SubOne> Snowman: when i upgraded to Fiesty that also got updated and i havent had that issue since
[01:48] <Snowman> hmm.  wonder if I can just have adept_updater move me from dapper to feisty
[01:48] <Snowman> or if I should download a cd.
[01:48] <LjL> nope, you need to go through edgy...
[01:48] <sichemist> Snowman: moving more than one upgrade is unsupported...
[01:48] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: ok, NT status access denied
[01:48] <Snowman> heh, so can it move me to edgy, then on to feisty?
[01:48] <anon32> phpcode, it should have a "modes" section, just add together your monitors' resolutions to get the new values
[01:49] <SubOne> wtf, all of a sudden my video is screwed now
[01:49] <anon32> e.g. 1280x1024+1280x1024=2480x1024
[01:49] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: happens during browsing of the network..actually. Lemme go make sure his computer is set to printer sharing
[01:49] <anon32> add the horizontal ones, leave the vertical one
[01:49] <LjL> Snowman: yes
[01:49] <Snowman> is 7.04 stable?
[01:49] <Snowman> other than this one minor issue, 6.06 has been rock solid for me.
[01:50] <LjL> 6.06 probably tends to be more stable than other versions, given its LTS status.
[01:50] <Snowman> lts meaning?
[01:50] <anon32> Snowman, it is. It's not *LTS* though, for what that's worth.
[01:50] <sichemist> Snowman: I went from breezy -> dapper -> edgy on one machine without a problem.
[01:50] <anon32> !lts
[01:50] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[01:50] <LjL> !lts
[01:50] <Snowman> ah.
[01:51] <Snowman> I don't usually stick with a distro version for 3 years though.
[01:51] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: ok. I had to turn on printer sharing, but it still isn't working. Do I need to restart his computer or something?
[01:51] <LjL> Snowman: 7.04 seems "stable enough" for me, but your mileage may vary.
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> not particularly sure
[01:51] <Snowman> I'll just grab a cd.  this machine (dell latitude) is pretty well supported under most distros...
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> might want to restart the wizard though
[01:51] <Snowman> alonea you shouldn't have to, no.
[01:52] <Snowman> his machine is xp home, or pro?
[01:52] <Alonea> Snowman: XP Pro with Media Center
[01:53] <Alonea> Snowman: his firewall might be blocking me.
[01:54] <Snowman> that's a possibility.  make sure that his firewall has an exception for "windows file and printer sharing".
[01:55] <morla> If I found a rather small bug.. something that isn't really worth a launchpad entry.. where would I report it?
[01:55] <Alonea> Snowman: never mind...he actually has it turned off.
[01:55] <Snowman> ah, so it's not that.
[01:55] <Snowman> hold on a moment, I've seen this on my LAN be, and found a howto about it.
[01:56] <phpcode> anon32: i have 6  Subsection "Display" .... is it safe to delete 5 of them or?
[01:56] <Alonea> Snowman: okies, and if you need the exact message its this: Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[01:57] <anon32> phpcode, !!! pastebin your xorg.conf, I wanna inspect it...
[01:58] <phpcode> where can i post it?
[01:58] <anon32> http://pastebin.ca
[02:00] <phpcode> anon32: ok.
[02:01] <anon32> link?
[02:01] <phpcode> http://pastebin.ca/471596
[02:01] <phpcode> please dont hate me. im only noob in linux :)
[02:02] <anon32> phpcode, oh, each subsection is for a different depth, copy the same modes onto each subsection (and don't delete anything)
[02:02] <Alonea> phpcode: nah, we couldn't hate you. you ask questions and accept the adice we give. nothing wrong with that.
[02:02] <Alonea> *advice
[02:02] <anon32> phpcode, or, since you only defined one metamode, only set "2560x1024" for the modes
[02:03] <Snowman> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32190.html
[02:03] <Snowman> that might be helpful alonea
[02:04] <phpcode> anon32: the Section "Screen" like that wen i opened xorg for the first time :)
[02:04] <anon32> can I share a printer over samba and require a logon? or does it have to be public?
[02:04] <anon32> phpcode, yeah, I just realized that mine was too, lol
[02:04] <Snowman> alonea: about 1/3 of the way down, there's someone who got the same error you're getting and worked around it.
[02:06] <|ericsson|> Could anyone tell me how to put the 'home icon' back on the desktop?
[02:08] <Alonea> Snowman: ok, thanks.
[02:08] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: looks like it isn't as quick as I was hoping
[02:09] <sichemist> |ericsson|: Right click desktop, select create new > link to application
[02:09] <sichemist> |ericsson|: Then put this in the command box: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[02:10] <sichemist> |ericsson|: Then change the icon :)
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i said that when i thought you were hooking it up locally :\
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> as it is now, i have absolutely no idea how to get it working :(
[02:11] <Alonea> YAY! pressing back, changing to guest, and going back forward works!
[02:11] <|ericsson|> Ah, wonderful, thank's sichemist
[02:11] <sichemist> |ericsson|: No problem.  I've had to look that up before, myself.
[02:12] <|ericsson|> sichemist: One would image it should be relatively easy to add an icon to the desktop though ;)
[02:12] <sichemist> |ericsson|: There might be an easier way, but that's the one that I know. :-)
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: well that's good
[02:13] <jrick> you can also create a launcher, name it Home, and point it to ~. Then change icon.
[02:14] <jrick> location, i mean
[02:14] <|ericsson|> hah, I'm lost when it comes to changing the icon though, would you know that as well sichemist? ;)
[02:14] <jrick> right click, properties
[02:15] <K-Ryan> Good evening everybody
[02:15] <jrick> click the wrench
[02:15] <jrick> click the icom
[02:15] <jrick> icon
[02:15] <|ericsson|> Ah, there we go, thank's jrick
[02:16] <|ericsson|> jrick: I'm so not used to gui's :)
[02:16] <jrick> not sure where the home icon is, though.
[02:16] <|ericsson|> jrick: was named kdf_home
[02:17] <phpcode> anon32: im sorry that i had to ask you that many questions, but i installed my first linux yesterday(Thursday). :)
[02:17] <jrick> it's filed under Filesystems, and called folder
[02:17] <|ericsson|> phpcode: if you never ask, then you will never now :)
[02:17] <anon32> phpcode, hehe, after you adjust your screen, it should be ok to save and restart X
[02:17] <jrick> folder_home
[02:18] <jrick> sry, just changed to dvorak.
[02:18] <jrick> _ is next to enter.
[02:18] <|ericsson|> jrick: I found it under system icons -> applications -> kdf_home :)
[02:18] <phpcode> anon32: you know what have happend if you dont see me again soon :) *lol*
[02:19] <anon32> phpcode, hehe, backup your original xorg.conf - that way, if it don't work, when you get sent back to a command prompt, you can copy the old one back and fix your problem
[02:20] <phpcode> how to copy a file? *lol*
[02:20] <Alonea> ya know, this was similar set up that I did in vista. You had to do a weird workaround to get past a similar error
[02:20] <|ericsson|> cp source destination
[02:20] <phpcode> k. thx
[02:20] <Filthpig> !qgl
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <Filthpig> !xgl
[02:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:20] <sichemist> phpcode: If the file is owned by root, you have to do: sudo cp source destination
[02:21] <Filthpig> lol
[02:22] <|ericsson|> In feisty, when clicking on icons there was/is an effect that animated a zoom effect, how to enable/disable that?
[02:23] <Filthpig> I'm installing winXP through qemu now.. I just love those little nuggets of information they serve while installing: "Windows XP is the fastest and most reliable Windows operating system yet. If a program crashes, you can safely close the program without losing data or restarting Windows"
[02:23] <Filthpig> and stuff like that
[02:23] <jrick> ericsson: not sure. tried to get that on edgy running KDE 3.5.6, but nothing there.
[02:24] <SubOne> finally fixed the camera
[02:24] <LHoT> hello all, #beryl and #ubuntu-effects are being slow, can someone help me with my Beryl problem?
[02:24] <K-Ryan> Filthpig, they give you them because it takes so long to install it.
[02:25] <|ericsson|> jrick: had the zoom effect the first time I upgraded to 356, then next machine, same version: no zoom :)
[02:25] <|ericsson|> !zoomy-thingie
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zoomy-thingie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <K-Ryan> LHoT I'll see what I can do, what's your problem?
[02:25] <jrick> it always worked fine for my install of feisty.
[02:25] <|ericsson|> xp ~40 minutes installation compared to badgers ~13
[02:26] <K-Ryan> I loved installing Kubuntu
[02:26] <theamazingpotato>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 123456
[02:26] <K-Ryan> Took 5 minutes or something.
[02:26] <theamazingpotato> oops
[02:26] <K-Ryan> lol
[02:27] <Filthpig> hahaha
[02:27] <K-Ryan> I'm sorry
[02:27] <jrick> same happened to me
[02:27] <Skrot-> And you can browse the web while you're installing ;)
[02:27] <K-Ryan> It's just that I've done it too
[02:27] <LHoT> one sec, got someone else to help
[02:27] <SubOne> yay and it works with digikam
[02:27] <LHoT> thank you anyways
[02:27] <theamazingpotato> hey is there a way to make a root account on kubuntu
[02:27] <K-Ryan> Skrot- You can do pretty much anything while installing Kubuntu can't you?
[02:27] <LHoT> :-D
[02:27] <Skrot-> K-Ryan: Yupp :)
[02:27] <K-Ryan> I had people walk me through it on here actually...
[02:27] <Skrot-> hehe, exactly
[02:28] <K-Ryan> Hey, how hard is Wine to use?
[02:28] <Filthpig> the only thing I wonder about is: Why does the default *ubuntu themes look so incredibly boring?
[02:28] <theamazingpotato> use crossover office
[02:28] <K-Ryan> I'm going to get it setup sometime, I just lack motivation to do it.
[02:28] <theamazingpotato> theres a trial of it
[02:28] <Filthpig> K-Ryan: it's piece of cake
[02:28] <jrick> i like the themes.
[02:28] <jrick> nice and clean
[02:29] <sichemist> |ericsson|: zoom effect: Its in .kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[02:29] <theamazingpotato> and to make it open right click the file then say this is a executable file
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Filthpig they keep it simple
[02:29] <sichemist> set VisualActivate=1
[02:29] <|ericsson|> !root | theamazingpotato
[02:29] <sichemist> I think
[02:29] <ubotu> theamazingpotato: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:29] <Filthpig> too simple imho
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Maybe, but simple is a nice way to start out.
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Getting rid of the whole "Linux is complicated" idea.
[02:29] <SubOne> does anyone know if there is a way to filter the files shown in digikam? because there are some files that are not images (camera related files i guess) and i dont want my wife copying them by accident.
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Makes it more user friendly
[02:29] <|ericsson|> sichemist: I edit with vi?
[02:30] <Filthpig> look to the two big OS's (you know which), they put lots of emphasis on design and "fresh" looks..
[02:30] <sichemist> yeah.  I found this once before and I think its right, but I'm not certain.
[02:30] <alexandre> brasileiros?
[02:30] <K-Ryan> Well we have "fresh looks" as well.
[02:30] <Filthpig> not by default :s
[02:31] <mahdi> what plugin do i need for amarok to play m4a's?
[02:31] <K-Ryan> Well not incredibly fresh by default.
[02:31] <Filthpig> no :p
[02:31] <K-Ryan> But all you have to do is go into system settings, play around there
[02:31] <K-Ryan> Or that website, kde-look
[02:31] <K-Ryan> It's not that hard
[02:31] <jrick> who else thinks that kubuntu should have an alternative brown look like ubuntu?  I kind of like the brown.
[02:31] <nixternal> mahdi: does Amarok currently play mp3s for you?
[02:31] <Filthpig> !medibuntu | mahdi
[02:31] <ubotu> mahdi: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[02:31] <mahdi> voting yes on brown
[02:32] <K-Ryan> jrick you can set Kubuntu up with a brown theme
[02:32] <nixternal> eww
[02:32] <nixternal> mmm KDE blue
[02:32] <jrick> one is not installed, is it?
[02:32] <K-Ryan> I liked the brown too, but I prefer the sleek styles I use in Kubuntu
[02:32] <K-Ryan> Like this silvery theme I've got goin' right now.
[02:32] <mahdi> nixternal: oh, well i guess it doesn't. whoops.
[02:32] <nixternal> there are a couple of brown/human color thems at https://www.kde-look.org
[02:32] <K-Ryan> I had a nice orange on black.
[02:33] <K-Ryan> Although it started to get a little too dark.
[02:33] <jrick> last time I looked, there was no brown color settings, unless I made a custom one.
[02:33] <sichemist> |ericsson|: Zoom effect: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=392930&highlight=icon+launch+effect+feisty
[02:33] <|ericsson|> sichemist: I can't find an entry called zoom effect though :(
[02:33] <K-Ryan> jrick, you can make or find.
[02:33] <sichemist> set VisualActivate=1
[02:34] <sichemist> |ericsson|: follow the link
[02:34] <sichemist> Gotta go eat. (pizza!)
[02:34] <theamazingpotato> ok
[02:34] <Alonea> damn...vmware wont install without this vmmon module thing...time to search around...
[02:34] <jrick> I didn't know kde-look was secure!?
[02:34] <theamazingpotato> i will make a new account
[02:34] <nixternal> sichemist: I just ordered mine :)
[02:34] <nixternal> pizza that is
[02:34] <theamazingpotato> that way i have two
[02:34] <theamazingpotato> one for root
[02:34] <Filthpig> I like mine... black background, transparent taskbar, nuvoX(?) icons and beryl with an emerald theme
[02:34] <theamazingpotato> and one for regular use
[02:34] <nixternal> Alonea: vmware server?
[02:34] <K-Ryan> jrick, secure?
[02:35] <Filthpig> anyone wanna see? ^^
[02:35] <jrick> https://
[02:35] <nixternal> Alonea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[02:35] <K-Ryan> I was trying to get Beryl working.
[02:35] <nixternal> there are some sed lines you can use with vmware to make it work with feisty
[02:35] <Filthpig> and?
[02:35] <K-Ryan> Granted I did, but I think because I didn't have my drivers it lagged really bad.
[02:36] <K-Ryan> (Video card)
[02:36] <Alonea> nixternal: yeah, I am completely new to this and I am trying this out.
[02:36] <Filthpig> what gfx card do you have?
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Well at the time it was an Ati Radeon 9800
[02:36] <K-Ryan> 128MB
[02:36] <nixternal> Alonea: I will tell you, it could be a headache. I got lucky and it went through like a breeze using that wiki page
[02:36] <nixternal> read it through first just to make sure you don't miss anything
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Now I've got a GeForce 6600 256MB
[02:36] <Filthpig> K-Ryan: and now?
[02:36] <Filthpig> ah
[02:37] <K-Ryan> But my proccessor is only 1.8Ghz
[02:37] <nixternal> Alonea: and whatever you do, don't use the little anyany hack that is out there, it will kill your vmware installation
[02:37] <Filthpig> so is mine ;)
[02:37] <Filthpig> I have a gf 7600 gs, but I used to have a ti4400
[02:37] <K-Ryan> Oh wow, that's cool
[02:37] <Filthpig> no problem at all with 6600
[02:38] <K-Ryan> I'll show you a pic of my old one that was really neat.
[02:38] <Filthpig> sure
[02:38] <SubOn1> ran out of laptop battery
[02:39] <SubOn1> yay
[02:40] <Tired_> How does one check for Firefox updates in Kubuntu...it seems to be non-functional over here?
[02:40] <Alonea> nixternal: ok, have yet to see it. I am attempting to install Mac OSX on here. Ok, on the serial number  thing (which I really don't like doing since it involves giving out personal info), it asking which vm ware products you use. Am I using VMware GSX or ESX Server?
[02:40] <Filthpig> whut.. K-Ryan DCC failed :s
[02:41] <nixternal> ya, you need to fill that out somewhat legitamately
[02:41] <theamazingpotato> i just went into admin mode
[02:41] <jontec> Tired_: well, I think it might be hard coded or something in 2.0. But whenever there's an update to ABP, I'm notified and I can choose to install the update
[02:41] <theamazingpotato> without the root sudo help
[02:42] <jontec> Tired_: I'm not totally sure... you might check #ubuntu, too... It's a GTK application
[02:42] <Tired_> How about general updates?  Adept is odd...is there an apt-get guide somewhere?  (google was unhelpful)
[02:42] <theamazingpotato> how do i get out of admin mode
[02:43] <Alonea> ok, sorry, my firefox crashed suddenly.
[02:44] <phpcode> that didn't help.
[02:44] <K-Ryan> Sorry Filthpig, had to get the door
[02:44] <Alonea> who was I talking to again? and may I have that link again?
[02:44] <jontec> Tired_: well, I think Adept is awesome. Do check for updates and then go ahead and search for firefox; if there's an update, then it will be listed for the package
[02:44] <Tired_> Can I do it with apt-get in the console?
[02:44] <Alonea> oh nm. there is the link. is in my history
[02:44] <jontec> Tired_: use `man apt-get` :D Best guide you're going to find.
[02:45] <Tired_> *sigh*  I miss the days when the console was desirable
[02:45] <Filthpig> K-Ryan: again. Connection timed out :S
[02:45] <K-Ryan> Hmmph
[02:45] <jontec> Alonea: do you have flash installed? There's been a lot of problems with the new version and Firefox; my friend is having them. Anything flash related that I come across, I go to a windows comp.
[02:45] <K-Ryan> Hold on two seconds
[02:45] <jrick> Tired_ you mean just regular updates from the terminal?
[02:45] <Tired_> yeah
[02:46] <jrick> sudo apt-get update
[02:46] <jrick> then
[02:46] <jrick> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:46] <Tired_> and then to update the packages?
[02:46] <Tired_> sweet!
[02:46] <Tired_> thanks!
[02:46] <Tired_> :D
[02:46] <jrick> no prob.
[02:46] <jontec> Tired_: it is desired, but since you wanted a guide I assumed you were a beginner... and apt-get is not the best thing for a beginner, at least when I was starting (and still isn't too friendly at times)
[02:46] <Tired_> i'm a kubuntu beginner, not a linux beginner
[02:46] <Alonea> jontec: yeah, I have flash installed with no problems...what does that have to do with vmware?
[02:46] <jontec> Tired_: gotcha.
[02:47] <Tired_> used to portage
[02:47] <jontec> Tired_: ahh, I see, then you use cli all the time :D
[02:47] <sylvisj> oh man, my beryl is running amazingly slow
[02:47] <sylvisj> can anyone help out?
[02:47] <Tired_> yeah.  i'm liking kubuntu, though...things 'just work' more often
[02:47] <jontec> Alonea: well, Flash 9 (whatever we're on :D) + Firefox can equal the exits that you are getting, vmware or not
[02:48] <Tired_> when my beryl slows down, i switch back to Kwin for a sec and it seems to be faster when I turn beryl back on....
[02:48] <sylvisj> hmm, will try it
[02:48] <jontec> Tired_: basically you just want to use apt-get install or so. I like Adept because I started with KDE and Kubuntu before I leared about gentoo and portage
[02:48] <sylvisj> Everything's got some nasty lag with effects
[02:49] <sylvisj> Kwin's doing it fine
[02:49] <jontec> Tired_: I haven't got try the juicy goodness of beryl in feisty yet
[02:49] <Tired_> I did have to fiddle with the effect durations before they were pretty but not too slow
[02:49] <sylvisj> yeah, I'm gonna have to
[02:49] <sylvisj> this is nuts
[02:49] <Tired_> The fire effect takes forever
[02:49] <Alonea> jontec: oh, not even on a flash page. I was trying to register and get a serial number for vmware, and then suddenly memory usage went nuts and firefox quit and openoffice complained there wasn't enough memory available to do such and such action
[02:49] <sylvisj> My GMA950 laptop is shitkicking my 8800gts desktop
[02:49] <sylvisj> both with beryl
[02:50] <Tired_> 8800gts is slow?  how are the drivers for that?
[02:50] <sylvisj> -.- don't ask
[02:50] <sylvisj> They may be why
[02:50] <K-Ryan> Filthpig, http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3691/snapshot1fk8.jpg
[02:50] <Tired_> that might slow things up if they're not mature (i don't know if they are or not)
[02:51] <Tired_> my FX 5200 seems perfect
[02:51] <Skrot-> K-Ryan: I like it cleaner; http://folk.ntnu.no/romnes/feisty_oxygen.png :)
[02:51] <K-Ryan> that was when i was new to Linux
[02:51] <sylvisj> It's much better after this reload
[02:52] <K-Ryan> So I didn't really know what I could do, or how to do it.
[02:52] <LinkCanabico> Tired_ has your fx 5200 a tv in? and if does it work?
[02:52] <sylvisj> K-Ryan: what are you using for that sys info up top?
[02:52] <K-Ryan> Hmm?
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't think any 5200 has a tv-in
[02:52] <Tired_> No TV in.  It has TV out, but I haven't tried it yet
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> s-video OUT, yes
[02:52] <sylvisj> erm, Skrot-
[02:53] <LinkCanabico> mine has
[02:53] <sylvisj> what are you using for that sysinfo
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Oh okey
[02:53] <Skrot-> sylvisj: Kima applet
[02:53] <jontec> Alonea: it doesn't have to be a flash page; just having flash installed
[02:53] <sylvisj> Alright, can anyone throw me some tips for speeding up Beryl?
[02:53] <Skrot-> sylvisj: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kima+-+kicker+monitoring+applet?content=33257
[02:53] <Alonea> jontec: ok..but I have had flash for months without any problems...
[02:54] <LinkCanabico> but i dont know the capture chipset so no idea how to make it work
[02:54] <jontec> Alonea: then it may not be flash, but that's just a check that I do. I had problems with it back on 6.06
[02:55] <Alonea> jontec: ah. well, this is the first time I have seen firefox crash like this, so I doubt its flash. I am just trying to get vmware installed and working at the moment
[02:55] <Tired_> LinkCanabico: does nvtv work for that?
[02:55] <jontec> Tired_: I'm not sure. (I'm not even sure if that's nVIDIA or ATi, I got my ATi running fine after the package. Have you installed any proprietary packages yet?)
[02:56] <LinkCanabico> Tired_ no idea what nvtv is can you explain?
[02:56] <jontec> Tired_: but, of course, I haven't had any chance to test my card for its performance.
[02:56] <Alonea> OK, I followed that page that someone gave me and when I click on the vmware icon, it goes to the loading phase, and then goes off...
[02:56] <theamazingpotato> how do i make a new user
[02:56] <LinkCanabico> yes nvidia driver
[02:57] <Tired_> LinkCanabico: nvtv is the thing that makes the tv-out on nvidia cards work (awkward explanation, I'm not familiar with it as I should be)
[02:58] <LinkCanabico> Tired no prob thanks il look into it
[02:58] <Tired_> jontec: Oh yeah, I have nvidia drivers and flash installed...not sure what else might be proprietary on here
[02:58] <Tired_> LinkCanabico: it's in the repos
[02:58] <jontec> Tired_: I was just speaking about proprietary for the card, sorry.
[02:59] <Tired_> jontec: Then yeah, I have the drivers all installed.  They were pretty easy in Feisty
[02:59] <Alonea> anyone??? man, this is why I hate installing things from the ubuntu package source things...
[03:00] <Filthpig> K-Ryan: hey, I was goofing about, trying to record my desktop while I was fooling about.. I like your desktop, but I'd suggest getting some new icons?
[03:00] <LinkCanabico> Tired im on fedora now i just prefer the Kubuntu forum il check as soon as im home
[03:00] <Filthpig> I think the defaults are a bit dull ;) but that's me
[03:00] <Filthpig> :] 
[03:00] <Tired_> Oh, they'll have it, too
[03:00] <K-Ryan> I don't really use my desktop for anything
[03:00] <K-Ryan> So I don't mind it to be honest
[03:00] <sylvisj> Skrot-: How the heck did you get it to show up at the top left, off of the panel?
[03:01] <Skrot-> sylvisj: I just added it there :>
[03:01] <sylvisj> How?
[03:01] <Skrot-> "off of the panel" btw?
[03:01] <sylvisj> away from kicker
[03:01] <sylvisj> you had the taskbar at the bottom and kima at the top
[03:01] <Skrot-> I've got two panels, one on top and one on the bottom
[03:01] <sylvisj> how'd you pull that off?
[03:02] <theamazingpotato> bye
[03:02] <Skrot-> Right click the panel at the bottom of the screen -> add new panel -> panel and drag it to the top if you want a panel on the top of the screen
[03:03] <jontec> Filthpig: they're classicly awesome. I look for them everytime I step into KDE.
[03:04] <Filthpig> each has his own taste
[03:04] <Filthpig> luckily ;)
[03:04] <Alonea> anyone here successfully put on vmware on fiesty before?
[03:05] <Filthpig> Alonea: I guess so. I'm using kvm/qemu right now
[03:05] <jrick> I perfer to have a mac style menu at the top.  It's 4-5 time's faster to put the mouse there b/c it's it the edge of the screen.
[03:06] <sylvisj> ok, ty
[03:06] <sylvisj> so now then
[03:06] <sylvisj> Need help installing vmware
[03:06] <phpcode> when i try to open Adept package manager, i get an error thar says that it maybe some other programs that are Adept-programs, apt-get or aptitude. But i only have opend firefox and mirc.
[03:06] <sylvisj> It's saying that something is already installed
[03:07] <hsystem-x> .
[03:08] <Alonea> Filthpig: ok, well, I installed it through adept, but it doesn't load
[03:09] <jhutchins> Alonea: vmware isn't just a program that you load.
[03:09] <hsystem-x> .
[03:09] <jhutchins> Alonea: There's a lot more to it than that.  There is a #vmware support channel, but they'll probably set your underwear on fire if you haven't red the docs first.
[03:10] <snake> hi all
[03:10] <snake> i just installed feisty and beryl in it but i get the cube all white
[03:10] <snake> when i open beryl
[03:10] <Alonea> jhutchins: I mean the vmware server console thing doesnt load. As in, when I click on it, it goes to loading phase then stops...just trying to get to some point where it asks for the serial number the instructions said to get
[03:11] <Tired_> snake -> check your video drivers
[03:11] <snake> ok
[03:11] <snake> thnx
[03:11] <sylvisj> Yeah, I'm trying to get vmware server to install
[03:11] <eloi> hi, how can get vnc in kubuntu??
[03:12] <sylvisj> I had already tried installing vmware-player, removed it and apt-get auto-remove'd the old stuff... but it's still saying there's old vmware software installed
[03:12] <jrick> does parallels have anything for linux, or just vmware?
[03:12] <jhutchins> Alonea: I would expect to run servers from a console.  Try it there, you may get useful error messages or other feedback.
[03:12] <jhutchins> Alonea: Probably necessary to do initial setup from the console - but spelling vmware is about the extent of my actual knowledge, I'm just going off general linux technique.
[03:12] <sylvisj> jhutchins: Mind helping me actually get it installed?
[03:13] <jhutchins> sylvisj: I wish I could, but as above, all I know is linux basics, I don't know vmware at all.
[03:13] <jontec> phpcode: try `sudo apt-get update` and see if apt-get has anything helpful to say... (a restart might help, but not if it is open right now :D) there maybe packages that aren't fully conifgured
[03:13] <sylvisj> hmm, k
[03:13] <jontec> configured*
[03:13] <Alonea> jhutchins: ok. i think what may be the problem is I was trying to install it the normal way from source, but did not know it was not for fiesty, so its partially installed, but not configured at all because of the module thing.
[03:14] <jhutchins> Alonea: can you sudo make uninstall?
[03:14] <Alonea> jhutchins: i dunno. you ran a .pl file to install it in the first place..
[03:15] <eloi> hi, how can get vnc in kubuntu??
[03:16] <Alonea> jhutchins: though I honestly hate adept at the same time...especially when it uninstalls extra things.
[03:16] <jhutchins> Alonea: You may be able to read through the perl script and figure out what it did, but best bet is finding someone who's been there.
[03:16] <phpcode> jontec: thx :-)
[03:16] <jhutchins> Alonea: Since this is generic vmware questions, not feisty specific ones, they might be able to help you in #vmware, nobody here seems to be speaking up.
[03:17] <jontec> phpcode: did it work? don't say thanks unless it did, ;)
[03:17] <Tired_> I tried to get VMWare working, but it wouldn't, so I gave up.  No help from me.
[03:17] <jhutchins> !vnc | eloi
[03:17] <ubotu> eloi: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:18] <phpcode> jontec: it did work :-D
[03:18] <Tired_> Althon x2's are awful cheap now
[03:18] <jontec> phpcode: okay, good then :D
[03:18] <Alonea> jhutchins: ok, I got it uninstalled.
[03:19] <jhutchins> Excellent!
[03:20] <Alonea> jhutchins: it was on the page that told me how to install it on adept. in case you had a source installation..gonna try installing it again on adept.
[03:20] <Filthpig> Tired_: but buying a new cpu means a new motherboard, a new mb means a new gfx card, new, faster ram, a more powerful psu...
[03:21] <jhutchins> Alonea: Great!  Good luck!  I'm gonna go help out in the kitchen.
[03:21] <Alonea> jhutchins: alrighty
[03:21] <Filthpig> and a new cpu fan (those boxed fans aren't very silent oO)
[03:21] <Filthpig> so a new cpu for me = a new computer
[03:21] <Filthpig> = more than I have to live for in a month
[03:22] <Tired_> i just got a new cpu, mobo, and ram for less than $200
[03:22] <Tired_> onboard video, but I had an old agp card around
[03:22] <Filthpig> mb with agp support?
[03:22] <Filthpig> in 2k7?
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, I just hopped on my friend's laptop and I'm setting up Kubuntu.
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Now during installation, he wasn't hooked up to the internet and I
[03:23] <Filthpig> I guess I've got an hour left
[03:23] <Filthpig> :s
[03:23] <Alonea> o....k...now there is not a VMWare server console in my menu...
[03:23] <K-Ryan> am having trouble enabling repos
[03:23] <Tired_> Filthpig, AGP and core 2 duo support
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Tips?
[03:24] <Filthpig> Tired_: what mb is that?
[03:24] <Tired_> Asus P5PE-VM
[03:24] <K-Ryan> I'm in the Adept Manager for the repos, I don
[03:24] <K-Ryan> *don't quite remember exactly what to do seeing as I did this forever ago.
[03:24] <Filthpig> K-Ryan: the laptop is on the net now?
[03:24] <jrick> feisty?
[03:24] <K-Ryan> Yeah I hooked it up
[03:25] <K-Ryan> Wireless doesn't work.
[03:25] <Alonea> K-Ryan: what card you got? I have to ndiswrapper mine..
[03:25] <K-Ryan> No idea
[03:25] <jrick> adept -> manage repositories
[03:25] <Alonea> K-Ryan: lspci should tell you
[03:25] <K-Ryan> My friend says its an integrated.
[03:25] <K-Ryan> Alright, hold up
[03:26] <K-Ryan> jrick I'm there, but uncommenting isn't working.
[03:26] <Alonea> K-Ryan: the name will be under the one labelled Network Controller
[03:26] <jrick> in feisty?
[03:26] <ayande__> anyone that knows what i need to install in order to send mail through my php script on website?
[03:27] <jrick> or dapper?
[03:27] <K-Ryan> 0000:05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[03:28] <K-Ryan> My main concern right now though is enabling these repos.
[03:28] <jrick> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <K-Ryan> Ah yes, let me try that.
[03:31] <Filthpig> Tired_: thanks for the tip, I'll keep it in the back of my mind until I get rich ;)
[03:31] <Tired_> ;)
[03:31] <Tired_> I compute on a budget also
[03:32] <Tired_> just upgraded from Pentium 3 a month ago
[03:32] <tmbg> wow. welcome to like. the early 90s. or something.
[03:32] <K-Ryan> !adeptcrash
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <K-Ryan> !adeptfix
[03:32] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:33] <jrick> K-Ryan: you may need to sudo apt-get update
[03:33] <K-Ryan> uhh
[03:33] <K-Ryan> yeeeeaaaahhh
[03:33] <K-Ryan> =)
[03:33] <Filthpig> Tired_: The motherboard you've got is Intel, right?
[03:33] <Filthpig> I'm kind of an AMD guy
[03:33] <Filthpig> AMD and nvidia
[03:33] <Tired_> yeah
[03:34] <Tired_> but it was cheap
[03:34] <Filthpig> hehe
[03:34] <Filthpig> yeah
[03:34] <Filthpig> it's damned chep, really
[03:34] <Filthpig> oh well
[03:36] <reya276> helo
[03:36] <reya276> hello
[03:36] <jrick> need help?
[03:36] <reya276> yes
[03:37] <reya276> I recently converted from windows vista, so I'm new to this OS
[03:37] <jrick> need to find your way around?
[03:37] <reya276> although the GUI seems the same there are somethings that I can't seem to do
[03:38] <Druntar> Hello
[03:38] <reya276> I need to install Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0, but it keeps telling me I do not have enough permission
[03:38] <jrick> how are you trying to install it?
[03:38] <Druntar> Is there someone who can help me with an internet issue?
[03:38] <jrick> and doesn't kpdf do what you need it to?
[03:39] <reya276> by clicking on the Install file
[03:39] <K-Ryan> Is there an easy command to tell Kubuntu to update itself? Right now this laptop is running Dapper, I need to get it to Feisty.
[03:39] <K-Ryan> Or do I have to change the repo lines and blah blah blah
[03:39] <reya276> I get the terminal window
[03:39] <Tired_> Druntar: We won't know until you ask.  :)
[03:39] <jrick> what's the install file's extension?
[03:39] <Filthpig> !feisty | K-Ryan
[03:39] <ubotu> K-Ryan: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[03:39] <reya276> and then it asks me to create the adobe directory, then that's when I get the messege of not having permission to do so
[03:39] <K-Ryan> I'm upgrading though
[03:40] <reya276> I can't see it
[03:40] <K-Ryan> From Dapper, is there a direct way?
[03:40] <reya276> how can I see the file extension
[03:40] <Filthpig> K-Ryan: not through update
[03:40] <Druntar> lol Good point. Well the issue I'm having is I'm using kubuntu from the live cd. I've tried it on my parents PC with no problems, but my computer seems to have internet connection issues when I run it. I had to log back into windows to get on here to ask.
[03:40] <jrick> roll your mouse over the icon.
[03:40] <jrick> a tooltip should appear
[03:41] <jrick> extension is on the end after the period
[03:41] <reya276> it says "Shell Script"
[03:41] <killermach_> ok.. I have a fresh install of fiesty kubuntu.. but I don't see how to activate the desktop effects.. any help?
[03:41] <jrick> oh boy.
[03:41] <jrick> just a sec.
[03:41] <K-Ryan> !edgy > K-Ryan
[03:41] <reya276> sure
[03:42] <Filthpig> killermach_: what desktop effects? Beryl?
[03:42] <reya276> oh boy what?
[03:42] <jrick> shell scripts are messy if your new to linux
[03:42] <Druntar> anyone have any ideas what it could be
[03:42] <reya276> really
[03:42] <Druntar> I'm so new its scarry. Only my second day
[03:43] <jrick> have you tried kpdf?
[03:43] <killermach_> Filthpig: I suppose so, I had an install of Edgy 6.1 and updated it to 7.04 and there appeared a menu option System -> Preferences -> Desktop effects, that gave the wiggle windows
[03:43] <Filthpig> reya276: you know Kubuntu comes with a PDF viewer on it's own? It's called KPDF and is very good
[03:43] <reya276> I should be ok, I'm a web developer so I think I can figure this out
[03:43] <killermach_> now I've done a fresh install from a 7.04 download ISO and cannot find it
[03:43] <jrick> kmenu - graphics - kpdf
[03:43] <K-Ryan> what's the kubuntu version of gksu "update-manager -c
[03:43] <K-Ryan> "
[03:43] <K-Ryan> ?
[03:44] <reya276> the issue with me is that I do not know what all these things mean, since I'm use to wincrap
[03:44] <Filthpig> killermach, you'll be wanting beryl, then
[03:44] <reya276> nope
[03:44] <Filthpig> !beryl | killermach_
[03:44] <ubotu> killermach_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:44] <crazy_bus> I'm confused.  I received nation geographic video podcasts in akregator.  Each video had a description and a link to the video.  However all the links have disappeared.  The descriptions are still on my computer but the links aren't.  Why would this happen?
[03:44] <jrick> on the bottom left corner is the kmenu. (start menu)
[03:45] <reya276> I manage to update my Graphics Card Drivers for my intel chip set so I think I should be ok
[03:45] <Druntar> I'm guessing no one has a clue why I can't connect to the net?
[03:45] <Druntar> when using kubuntu
[03:45] <jrick> ok, well that doesn't mean I can handle it.
[03:45] <Filthpig> Druntar: you'll have to find out what network card you have
[03:45] <jrick> I much perfer to use the Debian package system
[03:45] <reya276> ok then you want me to go to Add/Remove
[03:45] <Filthpig> then you can google it
[03:46] <Druntar> it's an onboard network adapter on an asus p5nsli board
[03:46] <jrick> no, I just checked, it's not in there.
[03:46] <Simeon_H> hmm... anyone know how to get hardware acceleration with the Ati Radeon mobility M6 LY
[03:46] <LinkCanabico>  Simeon use the ATI drivers
[03:46] <jrick> from adobe's web site, is there a download special to ubuntu or debian (.deb)?
[03:46] <reya276> I have KPDF installed
[03:47] <jrick> will that workL
[03:47] <jrick> ?
[03:47] <reya276> I just opened it
[03:47] <reya276> well it does not have all the Features of Acrobat Reader
[03:48] <jrick> ok, well check for a /package/ to download from adobe.
[03:48] <jrick> like .deb or .rpm
[03:48] <Druntar> hmmmm could it be a firmware issue maybe?
[03:48] <dsmith> what are the ubuntu dvds?
[03:48] <dsmith> repositories?
[03:48] <reya276> my only issue with this OS(Ubuntu) that I can see is this Install thing, if is not on the Add/Remove then your screwed
[03:49] <reya276> unless you are a Linux Guru
[03:49] <Druntar> no not really
[03:49] <Druntar> you're not giving yourself time to learn anything
[03:49] <jrick> not really, you can install the script with instructions, or if there's a package, you can install that.
[03:49] <dsmith> I'm not a linux guru and I handle the cmd line fine
[03:49] <Druntar> you're just jumping into it and expecting it to work like windows
[03:49] <K-Ryan> reya376 I thought the same thing when I first started
[03:50] <K-Ryan> It's really not that bad and I actually prefer using the repos as to downloading a file and installing
[03:50] <reya276> how do you install a package?
[03:50] <K-Ryan> Much more convinient
[03:50] <dsmith> sudo apt-get
[03:50] <K-Ryan> You can go into Adept, or sudo apt-get install
[03:50] <jrick> sudo dpkg -i <file>
[03:50] <K-Ryan> in the terminal
[03:50] <Druntar> from the command line
[03:50] <Druntar> or you can use adept
[03:50] <BluesKaj> well , I'm pretty fed up with ati graphics ...what a decent graphics card that will do 3D accellerated images and still not be too $$...not a gamer , but I like my Google Earth , which I just can't seem to get working on feisty
[03:50] <dsmith> I prefer the repos as well
[03:51] <Druntar> I'd go with a geforce 7500
[03:51] <Filthpig> Druntar: your card is a Marvell 88E8001 PCI Gb LAN controller... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=538725 this url might give you a hand
[03:51] <dsmith> Nvidia
[03:51] <Druntar> pretty solid card
[03:51] <Druntar> thank you filth
[03:51] <Filthpig> np
[03:51] <Druntar> but how do I use that when I'm on the live cd
[03:51] <Filthpig> tinker!
[03:51] <Filthpig> :)
[03:51] <dsmith> hah
[03:52] <Druntar> lol
[03:52] <Filthpig> well
[03:52] <dsmith> install the card to your mobo
[03:52] <Druntar> the card is onboard
[03:52] <dsmith> exit your xorg
[03:52] <dsmith> edit I meant
[03:53] <dsmith> update your drivers
[03:53] <Tired_> is there a program in the repos that will give me comprehensive info on the ram currently in my system, kinda like CPU-Z or wCPUid does in Windows?
[03:53] <jrick> ok, first do a sudo apt-get install alien
[03:53] <Filthpig> Tired_: there are loads of widgets in SuperKaramba
[03:53] <dsmith> Tired superkaramba
[03:53] <Tired_> sweet  :)
[03:53] <Filthpig> they give you loads of info
[03:53] <jrick> then from Adobes site, download the .rpm
[03:53] <Filthpig> or you can look at www-kde-apps.org
[03:54] <dsmith> I use these 2, light and liquid weather
[03:54] <jrick> reya276: listening?
[03:54] <dsmith> whats the difference between the cd and dvd ISOs for ubuntu?
[03:55] <jrick> reya276 open the konsole, and type 'sudo apt-get install alien'
[03:55] <dsmith> alien loves rpms
[03:55] <dsmith> :)
[03:55] <dsmith> Yummm
[03:55] <jrick> yeah, there's no .deb
[03:56] <jrick> haha yum
[03:56] <Tired_> uh...this superkaramba looks less like a RAM information program and more like Konfabulator.  I just need to know what week my RAM was made
[03:56] <Druntar> well I'm off to see if any of that helps
[03:56] <dsmith> well, once it spits it back out it is a .deb
[03:56] <Filthpig> Tired_: uh?
[03:57] <jrick> i get the feeling like no one is listening to me...
[03:57] <Tired_> i don't want a monitor to tell me how much ram is in use, I need to know detailed info about the chips themselves
[03:57] <Filthpig> oO
[03:57] <Filthpig> KInfoCenter?
[03:57] <Filthpig> otherwise.. Browse kde-apps.org
[03:58] <Tired_> Something that reads the SPD data
[03:58] <dsmith> crack open the case and read the number on the ram stick
[03:58] <Tired_> I find it hard to believe there is nothing in the Ubuntu repos that will tell you the CAS numbers...
[03:58] <dsmith> and then look it up on the manufactuers website
[03:58] <reya276> How do I go to a directory in Terminal
[03:59] <Tired_> dsmith -> you're kidding, right?
[03:59] <jrick> kmenu - system - konsole
[03:59] <jpiccolo> anyone know how to make my server's ftp transfer go faster?
[04:00] <dsmith> thats what I did
[04:00] <reya276> sorry dude I was trying to figure the Acrobat Stuff totally forgot about the chat window
[04:00] <dsmith> jpiccolo, port trunking?
[04:00] <jrick> in konsole, run 'sudo apt-get install alien'
[04:00] <jrick> and give password
[04:00] <reya276> ok I did this what did I just installed ? sudo apt-get install alien
[04:00] <jpiccolo> dsmith, this is on lan
[04:01] <jrick> alien will convert .rpm's into deb's
[04:01] <reya276> ok is done
[04:01] <Tired_> I'm not going to dig my case out of the clkoset for that.  It would be easier to install Windows just to look, but I can't believe there is no overclocking utilities in Ubuntu.
[04:01] <jrick> download the .rpm from adobe.
[04:01] <jpiccolo> Tired_, are you trying to overclock you video card?
[04:02] <reya276> and this will anable me to install apps easy or do I still have to use the console
[04:02] <Tired_> No, I want to know the CAS latency, the week of manufacture and the other SPD data of my RAM.
[04:02] <jrick> you still need the konsole
[04:02] <reya276> ok let me download it now
[04:02] <jrick> SAVE the .rpm
[04:03] <jrick> ok, I'm downloading it also, so I can see what you will be going through.
[04:03] <jrick> kind of slow...
[04:04] <reya276> ok I saved in to my Desktop
[04:05] <jrick> ok, in konsole, type 'alien AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386.rpm'
[04:05] <reya276> yes it is very slow, there site is slow period, man I wish they had dreamwaver for Linux, that would be awsome
[04:05] <reya276> Dreamweaver
[04:05] <jrick> wait, before you do that, 'cd Desktop'
[04:06] <reya276> before I do what
[04:06] <reya276> I started downloading to that location
[04:06] <jrick> do 'cd Desktop'
[04:06] <jrick> this will change you from Home to Desktop
[04:06] <reya276> oh crap that's how you change directories, just like DOS
[04:07] <jrick> now 'sudo alien AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386.rpm'
[04:08] <reya276> ok  did that
[04:08] <jrick> do 'ls'
[04:08] <jrick> like 'dir' in dos
[04:08] <jrick> what's the file name with the .deb extension?
[04:08] <reya276> it says 'hostname: Unknown host' and is just sitting there
[04:09] <reya276> let me check
[04:09] <jrick> after you did what?
[04:09] <reya276> adobereader-enu_7.0.9-2_i386.deb
[04:09] <jrick> is that with caps?
[04:10] <jrick> linux is case sensitive
[04:10] <reya276> nope
[04:10] <Druntar> Hello folks
[04:10] <reya276> hello
[04:10] <slougi> i think alien automatically converts names to lower-case
[04:10] <Druntar> comin at ya live from kubuntu
[04:10] <slougi> iirc
[04:10] <Druntar> don't know what I did but I have internet now
[04:10] <slougi> the internet's pretty convenient isn't it? :)
[04:11] <jrick> ok, now 'sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.9-2_i386.deb'
[04:11] <Druntar> I love it
[04:11] <Druntar> lol
[04:11] <slougi> teh intarnetz
[04:11] <Druntar> now I have another probelm
[04:11] <jrick> fix caps if necessary.
[04:11] <slougi> fire away
[04:12] <jrick> oh, btw, <shift><insert> pastes into a konsole.
[04:12] <reya276> there are no caps that's how it was generated by the console
[04:12] <Druntar> I want to convert to linux, but don't want to lose all my personal files on my windows install. I have no way of backing up that data. Is there a way to resize my existing ntfs partition to make it a dual boot?
[04:12] <jrick> did you run that last command?
[04:12] <slougi> Druntar: yes, although I do not recall the specifics right now, one sec. checking on the convenient internet :)
[04:13] <reya276> running it now
[04:13] <jrick> good.
[04:13] <reya276> ok it stopped
[04:13] <jrick> where?
[04:13] <jrick> reading database?
[04:14] <slougi> Druntar: here is one procedure that should work: http://www.nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm
[04:14] <Druntar> I love free tech support
[04:14] <reya276> no it did that already
[04:14] <reya276> I guess is done
[04:14] <jrick> now check on kmenu for Acrobat
[04:15] <slougi> Druntar: resizing ntfs has basically three steps: (1) defrag it in windows to move all data to the beginning of the partition, (2) resize the file system itself, and (3) resize the partition which holds the file system
[04:15] <Druntar> hmmm I'm on vista though
[04:15] <slougi> Druntar: most important is to realise that (2) and (3) are separate steps
[04:15] <slougi> Druntar: that shouldn't make a difference really
[04:16] <reya276> oh is there but when I try to run it, it says 'Failed to execute child process "acroread"(permission denied)
[04:16] <Alonea> ok, vmware installed!
[04:16] <Alonea> and it seems to work now.
[04:16] <slougi> Druntar: maybe the installer even knows how to automatically do that now...
[04:16] <jrick> try 'sudo acroread'
[04:16] <Alonea> now I have a question. Is it possible to install a new vm on an external hard drive?
[04:17] <reya276> you mean in to console
[04:17] <jrick> yes
[04:17] <reya276> that gives me
[04:17] <reya276> command not found
[04:17] <Druntar> would qparted be able to do it?
[04:17] <Druntar> it's already defraged
[04:18] <jrick> on the kmenu, right click on acrobat
[04:18] <jrick> click properties
[04:18] <slougi> Druntar: possibly yes, just remember to run it from the livecd
[04:18] <Druntar> that's what I'm on now
[04:18] <jrick> uh, edit item.
[04:18] <slougi> Druntar: right
[04:18] <Druntar> Honestly I don't want to even keep windows
[04:18] <slougi> Druntar: i'd just give it a try and see if it complains
[04:19] <jrick> what does the command box say? (in the kde menu editor)?
[04:20] <reya276> well I can seem to get a properties box when I right click
[04:20] <reya276> can't
[04:20] <jrick> edit item
[04:20] <reya276> you know I'm using Ubuntu right
[04:21] <jrick> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[04:21] <reya276> unbuntu
[04:21] <reya276> ubuntu
[04:21] <jrick> oh, I thought you were on kubuntu b/c you're on the kubuntu channel.
[04:22] <jrick> uh, than where did you get konsole from?
[04:22] <reya276> see names are too similar
[04:22] <reya276> confused now, but hey atleast you got it to install
[04:22] <jrick> ubuntu -> gnome.   kubuntu -> kde
[04:22] <reya276> and though me how to do it, thanks
[04:23] <jrick> does it run?
[04:23] <reya276> see too many flavors, I'm use to XP or Vista
[04:23] <reya276> that's it
[04:23] <jrick> can you run acrobat?
[04:23] <reya276> nah it says permission denied
[04:23] <jrick> what happens when you right click it?
[04:24] <reya276> I get 3 menus
[04:24] <jrick> is edit item one of them?
[04:24] <reya276> no
[04:24] <jrick> what are the three choises?
[04:24] <reya276> is basicly asking me to create shortcuts for it
[04:25] <jrick> ok, I think your on gnome, not kde.
[04:25] <jrick> wait, what version?
[04:25] <jrick> 6.06 or 7.04
[04:26] <jrick> (or 6.10)
[04:26] <reya276> yes it is Gnome
[04:26] <reya276> 7.04
[04:26] <jrick> ok, in prefrences, open menu editor
[04:26] <jrick> or something simular,
[04:27] <jrick> i don't have gnome in front of me
[04:27] <jrick> System - Preferences
[04:27] <reya276> ok
[04:28] <jrick> in Alacarte (I think that's what it's called) select Acrobat
[04:28] <jrick> alacarte is the menu editor
[04:28] <jrick> what is under command?
[04:31] <jrick> huh, wierd. Acroread is the command, but when under superuser (sudo) it can't find the command.
[04:31] <nalioth> mind your letter case
[04:32] <jrick> (acroread is lowercase)
[04:32] <reya276> ok let me try it again
[04:33] <se7en> how do i rip a dvd with k3b
[04:35] <TeeBaggie> Hey, can someone tell me where to put my fonts?
[04:35] <jrick> um, yeah.  that's about the wierdest thing I have seen linux do.
[04:35] <TeeBaggie> ?
[04:35] <slougi> TeeBaggie: ~/.fonts
[04:36] <slougi> i.e. the .fonts dir in your home directory
[04:36] <TeeBaggie>  Ty.\
[04:36] <jrick> and sudo /usr/bin/acroread doesn't work either.
[04:36] <slougi> jrick: what does `which acroread` say?
[04:36] <jrick> huh.
[04:36] <jrick> absolutely nothing.
[04:36] <slougi> TeeBaggie: run fc-cache -fv afterwards to immediately update font data,  it'll take a minute or two otherwise
[04:36] <jrick> do i need sudo?
[04:36] <TeeBaggie> ?
[04:37] <slougi> that command should show you where the binary is located
[04:37] <TeeBaggie> fc-cache?
[04:37] <dasnipa> erm dumb question how do i tell my sys tray to not stack icons and instead display just on one line?
[04:37] <TeeBaggie>  in the run command?
[04:37] <slougi> TeeBaggie: yeah "fontconfig cache updater tool"
[04:37] <slougi> TeeBaggie: yeah
[04:38] <slougi> dasnipa: it'll stack icons automatically if there is space for that, not sure if you can turn that off
[04:38] <TeeBaggie> where exactly do i put fonts? im new to linux :P
[04:38] <jrick> fakeroot doesn't work either.
[04:38] <dasnipa> slougi: hm there has got to be...
[04:39] <slougi> TeeBaggie: just right-click -> actions -> install :)
[04:39] <TeeBaggie> ex. /home/brandon/.fonts?
[04:39] <slougi> TeeBaggie: on the .ttf
[04:39] <TeeBaggie> ok
[04:39] <TeeBaggie> :)
[04:39] <johan> hallo
[04:39] <johan> good morning
[04:39] <johan> :)
[04:39] <slougi> and select personal if it's just for you, or system wide if for all users
[04:39] <johan> i need some help here
[04:40] <TeeBaggie> yay! ty
[04:40] <jrick> any ideas how to get acroread working?
[04:40] <slougi> TeeBaggie: np :)
[04:40] <johan> i have kubuntu on my scsi hard drive in /dev/sda2
[04:40] <TeeBaggie>  Can someone help me w/ steam?
[04:40] <Tired_> Question:  if I shut down my system, physically remove the hard drive with Kubuntu, replace it with a totally different drive, then later, I want to reverse the process, will the kubuntu install be affected at all?
[04:40] <jrick> sorry reya276, this is really confusing
[04:40] <johan> and i install windows on /dev/sda1
[04:40] <TeeBaggie> I think its just the font, but i have no text, i used wine
[04:40] <johan> but now i cannot run my kubuntu
[04:40] <slougi> Tired_: if you don't touch the HD, it will not be affected
[04:40] <Tired_> :)
[04:41] <slougi> Tired_: pretty logical, no? :)
[04:41] <johan> because when i restarting the pc i cannot found os selection
[04:41] <johan> how can i run my kubuntu?
[04:41] <slougi> johan: you must reinstall the kubuntu boot manager (it is called GRUB)
[04:41] <TeeBaggie> yup, font.
[04:42] <TeeBaggie> ty all
[04:42] <slougi> np
[04:42] <johan> how to do that?
[04:42] <Tired_> lol, the only logic in my bizarrely un-logical problem.  i have to install windows for a minute so I can access my hardware, before I can go back to Kubuntu.
[04:42] <reya276> is ok, I'll do some digging
[04:42] <johan> can i install grub from my  live cd?
[04:42] <slougi> johan: I am just checking if there is an easy way for that, one minute
[04:42] <reya276> thanks
[04:42] <slougi> johan: yes
[04:42] <johan> ok
[04:42] <johan> thanks
[04:42] <jrick> ok, I have to go, so hope everything works out fine.
[04:42] <slougi> johan: if you boot from the livecd and come on irc i can walk you through it, it's not very difficult but entails some command line stuff
[04:43] <dsmith> Hmmmm ran.... sudo apt-get upgrade and I get this pop box... Upgrade...Cancel or Allow?
[04:43] <slougi> Tired_: sounds good :)
[04:43] <johan> i am booting with live cd right now
[04:43] <slougi> johan: ok cool
[04:43] <slougi> johan: i'll be off the comp for a minute or so, hold on :)
[04:43] <johan> ok
[04:43] <ubuntu> hey slougi
[04:43] <ubuntu> this is druntar
[04:43] <reya276> ok thanks
[04:44] <ubuntu> forgot to commit the partition changes
[04:44] <ubuntu> so now I'm waiting on that
[04:48] <Druntar> ok qparted seems to have locked up after I hit commit
[04:48] <slougi> johan: ok, first thing, open a terminal
[04:48] <johan> ok :)
[04:48] <slougi> Druntar: sure it's not just grinding the drive?
[04:48] <Druntar> well the windows have all locked up
[04:48] <Druntar> and are non responsive
[04:48] <slougi> hmm weird
[04:49] <Druntar> well not unresponsive
[04:49] <slougi> johan: got the terminal?
[04:49] <Druntar> I can move them around but I minimized it for a second and when I reexpanded they are all blank
[04:49] <johan> yes
[04:49] <slougi> johan: ok, type sudo -i to begin with so we don't have to say sudo all the time. tread carefully, you're now in root mode
[04:50] <johan> done
[04:50] <slougi> Druntar: hmm, well I don't really know what to say to that
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[04:50] <slougi> johan: ok. where did you say you had install kubuntu? /dev/sda2?
[04:50] <johan> yes /dev/sda2
[04:50] <slougi> ok
[04:51] <slougi> type mkdir <something>, mkdir temp will do
[04:51] <slougi> just create a temporary directory
[04:51] <slougi> after that, mount /dev/sda2 temp
[04:51] <johan> wait
[04:51] <slougi> which will mount your ubuntu filesystem on the temp dir
[04:52] <slougi> ok
[04:52] <slougi> Druntar: still locked up?
[04:52] <johan> mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:52] <Druntar> I'm guessing it's just doing it's thing my hard drive light hasn't gone out since I started it so maybe it's doing it's thing
[04:52] <Druntar> just let it run
[04:53] <slougi> yeah let it sit for a second and see if it comes to its senses
[04:53] <johan> wait
[04:53] <johan> it work
[04:53] <slougi> ok cool :)
[04:53] <johan> so what next?
[04:53] <slougi> next step, cd temp
[04:53] <slougi> i.e. go into the dir
[04:53] <johan> ok
[04:53] <slougi> two commands next:
[04:53] <slougi> mount -t proc proc proc
[04:53] <slougi> (yes you need all those procs :)
[04:54] <slougi> and mount -t sysfs sys sys
[04:54] <johan> done
[04:54] <slougi> right
[04:54] <slougi> hmm, do "mount -o loop /dev dev" just to be sure
[04:54] <slougi> I am not 100% if its required but it does not hurt
[04:54] <slougi> 100% sure
[04:55] <johan> --- /dev: Is a directory it said
[04:55] <slougi> then do "cd .." to back out of the dir again
[04:55] <slougi> ah sorry
[04:55] <slougi> -o bind, not -o loop
[04:55] <Druntar> so ummm <twiddles thumbs>
[04:55] <slougi> Druntar: kmenu -> games :)
[04:55] <Druntar> lol
[04:56] <Druntar> don't have games since it's live cd
[04:56] <slougi> johan: still with me?
[04:56] <johan> i cannot found my temp dir
[04:56] <slougi> johan: type pwd, what does it say?
[04:56] <Druntar> I'd have to jump on adept and snag some
[04:56] <johan> pwd
[04:56] <slougi> Druntar: damn livecd :)
[04:56] <johan> it said /
[04:56] <slougi> johan: i mean the output of that command
[04:57] <slougi> ok, type ls
[04:57] <slougi> do you see a directory called temp?
[04:57] <johan> no
[04:57] <johan> but tmp
[04:57] <slougi> no that's different
[04:57] <slougi> type just "cd"
[04:57] <johan> i cannot find temp
[04:57] <slougi> and then see with ls if there is a temp dir there
[04:58] <johan> yes
[04:58] <yotux> is there a good place to find out how to allow amarok to play a large variety of media formats?
[04:58] <johan> :)
[04:58] <slougi> ok cool :)
[04:58] <slougi> type "ls temp", you should see stuff like usr, lib, bin, home, etc.
[04:58] <slougi> yotux: yes, on the ubuntu wiki
[04:59] <slougi> yotux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:59] <johan> yes
[04:59] <slougi> johan: cool, half-way there :)
[04:59] <slougi> now, this is an important step
[04:59] <slougi> type "HOME=/root chroot temp /bin/bash"
[04:59] <johan> home=/root chroot temp/bin/bash
[04:59] <johan> sorry
[05:00] <slougi> the caps are important :)
[05:00] <slougi> as are the spaces
[05:00] <johan> ok
[05:00] <slougi> there should really be a button "REINSTALL GRUB PLZ"
[05:00] <Druntar> crap
[05:00] <slougi> Druntar: ?
[05:00] <johan> chroot: cannot change root directory to temp/bin/bash: Not a directory
[05:00] <johan> ls
[05:00] <Druntar> ok someone want to explain why my mouse keeps going out?
[05:00] <Druntar> it'll take a reboot to get it going again
[05:01] <Druntar> and I can't do that right now
[05:01] <slougi> johan: as I said the spaces are important
[05:01] <Druntar> logitech g5 laser mouse
[05:01] <slougi> Druntar: hmm... type alt-space to bring up katapult, type konsole, in the konsole type dmesg to see kernel output. anything interesting on the last lines?
[05:01] <Druntar> thought I had it fixed but when I opened the add/remove programs it went out again
[05:02] <slougi> johan: got it?
[05:02] <johan> HOME=/root chroot temp/bin/bash like this?
[05:02] <johan> ls
[05:02] <slougi> no, there is a space between temp and /bin/bash
[05:02] <slougi> ie "HOME=/root chroot temp /bin/bash"
[05:02] <Druntar> end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[05:03] <johan> done :)
[05:03] <slougi> that's just floppy stuff
[05:03] <slougi> johan: cool :)
[05:03] <johan> ls
[05:03] <slougi> johan: type "update-grub"
[05:03] <johan> but i havent done the bind thing isit ok?
[05:03] <intelikey> chroot temp su -       :)
[05:03] <Druntar> well I can't scroll up to see anything else
[05:03] <slougi> johan: it should be
[05:03] <johan> it said done
[05:04] <slougi> intelikey: the HOME env var gets set wrong sometimes
[05:04] <intelikey> that's what the su -  was for
[05:04] <slougi> intelikey: right
[05:04] <johan> findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=0886ace5-a458-4d5c-9e5f-44e496e697d7'
[05:04] <johan> Cannot determine root device.  Assuming /dev/hda1
[05:04] <intelikey> puts you in a root "login" shell
[05:04] <slougi> johan: ouch
[05:04] <slougi> stop
[05:05] <slougi> intelikey: we already are
[05:05] <Druntar> nothing looks like it would be related to the mouse
[05:05] <Druntar> it's all bluetooth and eth0 stuff
[05:05] <slougi> johan: type "exit"
[05:05] <slougi> Druntar: not sure then
[05:05] <johan> done
[05:05] <Druntar> I'm starting to think it's the damn mouse
[05:05] <slougi> johan: do "cd temp"
[05:05] <johan> yes
[05:05] <Druntar> does linux support plug and play maybe if I unplug it and replug it in
[05:06] <slougi> johan: do "mount -o bind /dev dev"
[05:06] <slougi> Druntar: if it's usb it should work
[05:06] <johan> mount or bind?
[05:06] <slougi> the command is mount, -o bind is an argument to it
[05:06] <intelikey> slougi no i mean on the chroot.      i was just pointing out a more system specific way.     using  su -  in the chroot sets all the env according to that systems root account  just as if you had logged into it in the console
[05:06] <johan> done :)
[05:07] <slougi> intelikey: yeah i got that, and i'll keep it in mind for the future. for now we had already done sudo -i before
[05:07] <intelikey> wasn't trying to start a fight.
[05:07] <slougi> yeah no worries :)
[05:07] <slougi> johan: ok cool, now "cd .." to go back up one level
[05:07] <johan> ok
[05:07] <slougi> the dots are important
[05:08] <johan> ok two dots :)
[05:08] <slougi> johan: then the chroot thing again, let's take intelikeys suggestion :) "chroot temp su -"
[05:08] <johan> just like that or use Home=.. ?
[05:09] <Druntar> ok when I unplugged it got "usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[05:09] <slougi> just like that, it's a better way
[05:09] <Druntar> after plugging back in now power to mouse and no response from kernel
[05:09] <johan> cannot execute binary file
[05:09] <johan> wait wait
[05:09] <johan> done
[05:09] <slougi> ok
[05:09] <slougi> do the update-grub thing again
[05:10] <Druntar> man that hard drive live is still going
[05:10] <Druntar> light*
[05:10] <slougi> Druntar: are you resizing it now or what exactly?
[05:10] <johan> searching for grub inst dir found /boot/grub
[05:10] <Druntar> it's supposed to be resizing the ntfs partition and freeing up the 100 gigs or so that'll be left
[05:11] <osiris> yeah.  that takes time
[05:11] <osiris> lots of time
[05:11] <johan> testing for an existing grub menu.lst found /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:11] <Druntar> ok that explains the qparted seeming to lock up
[05:11] <Druntar> now what about my mouse lol
[05:11] <osiris> yep
[05:11] <slougi> johan: then found kernels, updating menu.lst?
[05:11] <osiris> leave it
[05:11] <johan> found kernel :/boot/vmlinuz
[05:11] <johan> ye
[05:11] <johan> yes
[05:11] <slougi> nice
[05:11] <slougi> johan: one second
[05:12] <Druntar> the kernel isn't even recognizing me plugging the mouse back in
[05:12] <intelikey> usb mice
[05:12] <Druntar> yeah
[05:12] <Druntar> logitech g5 laser mouse
[05:12] <Druntar> keeps bugging out
[05:13] <Druntar> it'll just stop working for no reason
[05:13] <intelikey> check the log files ?
[05:13] <Druntar> and takes a reboot to get it working again
[05:13] <Druntar> don't know how to do that
[05:13] <Druntar> slougi had me open konsole and type dmesg
[05:13] <intelikey> browse /var/log/  cat any-log.file
[05:14] <Druntar> lol ok only my second day in linux please be a bit more clear if you can
[05:14] <intelikey> messages and xorg in particular
[05:14] <johan> can i reboot now?
[05:14] <slougi> johan: one second
[05:14] <slougi> johan: type grub
[05:14] <johan> ok :)
[05:14] <slougi> :)
[05:14] <johan> done
[05:15] <slougi> type "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[05:15] <johan> (hd1,1)
[05:15] <Alonea> why is it when I delete files off my external harddrive, that it puts the recycled files on my main harddrive?
[05:15] <slougi> ok
[05:15] <AMDfanboy> hey guys, is automatix cool?
[05:15] <intelikey> Druntar  open a konsole and type this;   for Q in /var/*xorg* ;do tail $Q ;done | less
[05:15] <slougi> johan: now type "root (hd1,1)"
[05:16] <johan> done
[05:16] <slougi> johan: you want the boot menu when you first start the computer right?
[05:16] <johan> yes
[05:16] <slougi> ok, then type "setup (hd1)"
[05:17] <intelikey> Druntar that will get you the last 10 lines of each xorg log file in the 'less' pager   you can scroll up and down  page or  even search in there.   hit q to exit less
[05:17] <johan> it said succeeded
[05:17] <slougi> intelikey: afaik X isn't really concerned with the input devices directly, just the /dev entries
[05:17] <slougi> johan:  ok cool :) type "quit"
[05:17] <johan> ok
[05:17] <slougi> johan: then type "exit"
[05:18] <johan> done
[05:18] <slougi> johan: then we have to unmount the filesystems we mounted before
[05:18] <Alonea> ok, not to get pissy, but how does something so simple as a recyling bin keep on getting messed up? It says now that it cannot read such and such file
[05:18] <johan> ok
[05:18] <slougi> johan: so go back into the temp dir: "cd temp"
[05:18] <johan> ok
[05:18] <Druntar> says tail; cannont open "var/*xorg*" for reading: no such file or directory
[05:19] <intelikey> slougi is the kernel or the xserver dropping his mouse ?
[05:19] <slougi> andh them "unmount proc", then "unmount sys", then "unmount dev"
[05:19] <slougi> intelikey: i would presume the kernel, afaik X just responds to events from /dev/input/foo
[05:19] <intelikey> Druntar did i type that ?   /var/log/*xorg*   was what it should have been
[05:20] <johan> unmount or umount?
[05:20] <slougi> johan: sorry, my bad. umount.
[05:20] <johan> ok
[05:20] <dsmith> i have a usb drive that wont auto mount no longer
[05:20] <johan> done
[05:21] <dsmith> I did a package upgrade last night
[05:21] <intelikey> slougi noted.  lets see if xorg is whining then we'll look at dmesg
[05:21] <Druntar> same thing
[05:21] <slougi> johan: then "cd .." to back up one, and "umount temp" to unmount the linux partition. then just reboot and report back :)
[05:21] <slougi> intelikey: good point
[05:21] <johan> ok
[05:21] <johan> thank u slougi very very much
[05:22] <Druntar> same message
[05:22] <slougi> no problem. I hope they will make this a one button operation in the future.
[05:22] <slougi> dsmith: do other usb drives still automount?
[05:23] <Druntar> <screams at his stupid mouse>
[05:23] <intelikey> Druntar ok sorry.   i'm still half asleep here.    lets try one more time.    for Q in /var/log/Xorg* ;do tail $Q ;done | less
[05:23] <dsmith> I dont have any other swith me at this moment
[05:23] <intelikey> and yes i tested that it should work
[05:23] <dsmith> I looked in /mnt and I have just the cd-rom
[05:23] <dsmith> I did rcently reformat this drive in NTFS from FAT32
[05:24] <dsmith> should not mater though
[05:24] <Druntar> same thing
[05:24] <slougi> dsmith: hmm, if you plug it in and look at the ouput of "dmesg" (ie kernel messages) does it say anything about the usb device?
[05:24] <Druntar> I'm thinking its because I'm on a live cd
[05:24] <intelikey> Druntar :)   now he tells me.
[05:24] <intelikey> yeah might be.
[05:25] <Druntar> lol slougi knows so I figured since he knew that and if he thought that was teh problem he'd tell you
[05:25] <intelikey> Druntar ok     dmesg    see what the end of that tells us
[05:25] <Druntar> he made no mention so I thought it unimportant
[05:25] <slougi> well, why would a livecd affect that? i am not all-knowing :)
[05:25] <Druntar> sweet qpart says it's done
[05:25] <slougi> argh
[05:26] <intelikey> no reserve log files to see what happened before the reboot slougi
[05:26] <dsmith> slougi: ok it does mention the USb drive
[05:26] <Druntar> well qpart is done so I can reboot now
[05:26] <Druntar> that will fix it for now
[05:26] <dsmith> it does pickup the model name even
[05:26] <slougi> intelikey: ah right. sorry, was distracted.
[05:26] <Druntar> once I get linux installed we'll work from there
[05:26] <slougi> dsmith: ok, so at a kernel level it works
[05:26] <intelikey> Druntar good plan
[05:27] <slougi> dsmith: is HAL running?
[05:27] <dsmith> looked like it attempted a few times
[05:27] <Druntar> ok going to reboot
[05:27] <dsmith> HAL?
[05:27] <dsmith> !HAL
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Druntar> how do I do that lol I don't want to hard reboot
[05:27] <slougi> the hardware abstraction layer
[05:27] <slougi> dsmith: quick way to check: "ps aux | grep hal"
[05:27] <slougi> should list a number of processes
[05:28] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1   &&&  ctrl+alt+del
[05:28] <intelikey> Druntar   ^
[05:28] <dsmith> acpi, keyboard, storage
[05:29] <dsmith>   ...  /usr/lib/hal
[05:29] <dsmith> appears so
[05:29] <intelikey> bye Druntar
[05:29] <slougi> yes
[05:29] <slougi> intelikey: familiar with the HAL automount stuff?
[05:29] <intelikey> no
[05:29] <slougi> crap, me neither
[05:30] <intelikey> automatic crap tic's me off.....
[05:30] <dsmith> heh
[05:30] <intelikey> so i avoid it
[05:30] <slougi> intelikey: well, err
[05:30] <slougi> ah
[05:30] <slougi> what dirs do you have in /media?
[05:30] <dsmith> cdrom0
[05:30] <slougi> ok
[05:31] <slougi> let me just quickly check what locally happens when I plug in a usb stick
[05:31] <slougi> one sec
[05:31] <dsmith> as I remember it shows a folder
[05:31] <dsmith> like sda1
[05:31] <slougi> yes I meant on a system level
[05:32] <dsmith> oh
[05:32] <intelikey> i'm not sure what's what there   but <dsmith> I did rcently reformat this drive in NTFS from FAT32  <<<  yes that matters.
[05:32] <intelikey> !ntfs
[05:32] <dsmith> hmmmmmmmmmm
[05:32] <intelikey> oh bot desync'd ?
[05:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:34] <slougi> shouldn't it still mount ro?
[05:34] <intelikey> if it was "setup" in fstab.  no.
[05:34] <dsmith> one sec
[05:34] <intelikey> if not "maybe"...
[05:35] <slougi> yeah...
[05:35] <dsmith> reloading ntfs-3g
[05:36] <dsmith> brb
[05:36] <intelikey> or should i say   if ! grep vfat /etc/fstab ;then echo maybe ;fi
[05:37] <johan> hello
[05:37] <johan> i'm back
[05:37] <johan> slougi
[05:37] <johan> r u there?
[05:38] <johan> i try to boot grom my hard disk
[05:38] <johan> it said error 15:file not found
[05:38] <johan> i cannot enter my windows to
[05:39] <intelikey> johan let me review what slougi had you do and see if i notice anything that might help.   give me a sec
[05:39] <johan> pk
[05:39] <johan> ook
[05:39] <slougi> johan: does it say that immediately on boot?
[05:39] <kalorin`> anyone use the aegis virus scanner?
[05:39] <johan> yes
[05:40] <johan> when i choose kubuntu
[05:40] <kalorin`> it keeps finding files on my windows stuff that are "infected" witW32/Magistr.a@MMh
[05:40] <johan> then error 15
[05:40] <johan> file not found
[05:40] <kalorin`> but symantec doesn't find those
[05:40] <slougi> johan: aha, but the menu does come up?
[05:40] <kalorin`> seems odd
[05:40] <johan> yes
[05:40] <snake> hi .
[05:40] <slougi> johan: second
[05:40] <johan> i have to hard disk
[05:41] <johan> before my mbr was on my 1st
[05:41] <johan> and kubuntu in my second
[05:41] <snake> i installed beryl in feisty but i can not see the decoration of the windows. the minimize , close and maximize buttons
[05:41] <slougi> johan: ah well, that info would have helped a lot
[05:41] <slougi> johan: so you changed hd order?
[05:41] <johan> yes
[05:41] <slougi> johan: how was it before and how is it now?
[05:41] <johan> when i change to boot from second hd the menu comes up
[05:42] <cables> !effects | snake
[05:42] <ubotu> snake: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[05:42] <Alonea> ok, is there a limit for file size on the trashcan that can be set? I have tried again and again to delete this file thats a little over 3 gigs without success
[05:42] <johan> but when i choose 1st hd its automatically boot the windows
[05:42] <slougi> johan: ok it would have been good to know that before
[05:43] <johan> sorry :(
[05:43] <slougi> no problem, let me just check a thing or two so we can fix it :)
[05:43] <johan> but i like to put my mbr on my sec hd
[05:43] <kalorin`> alonea, how about rm -f <file> from a command prompt?
[05:43] <johan> if its ok
[05:43] <johan> :)
[05:44] <slougi> johan: well yes "it's ok" :) just a matter of setting it up that way
[05:44] <johan> ok
[05:44] <intelikey> slougi and johan  sounds like his /boot/grub/device.map  and /etc/fstab   will both need edited to reflect the changes
[05:44] <slougi> so what you want is for the first harddrive to boot straight to windows, and the second to give you the grub menu?
[05:44] <slougi> intelikey: yes, i was not aware he had changed disk order
[05:45] <johan> :)
[05:45] <johan> sorry my bad
[05:45] <Alonea> kalorin`: *sigh* that would take a while..not to mention I am just trying to go through my drive and free up some space. just kind of annoying to have to go back and forth from the terminal and konqueror to see what I want to get rid of
[05:45] <slougi> no worries johan
[05:45] <slougi> only problem is I need to leave soon
[05:46] <slougi> intelikey: would you walk him through it?
[05:46] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: install kleansweep
[05:46] <johan> oh
[05:46] <intelikey> Alonea kdesu konqueror
[05:46] <slougi> i need to leave for work in a bit
[05:46] <kalorin`> alonea, how would that "take a while"
[05:46] <kalorin`> I don't get it
[05:46] <kalorin`> opening a command prompt and going ot the directory where the file is would "take a while"
[05:46] <intelikey> slougi you can.
[05:46] <kalorin`> the rm -f <file> command would take about 20 seconds
[05:46] <slougi> johan: ok let's try to do this quickly
[05:46] <johan> ok
[05:46] <Alonea> intelikey: I know that, I am having trouble with the trashcan...it keeps messing up or failing to delete large files
[05:46] <johan> :)
[05:46] <slougi> johan: have you booted from the livecd?
[05:47] <johan> yes
[05:47] <slougi> ok nice
[05:47] <Alonea> kalorin`: I dont have one file. I have many files to delete.
[05:47] <slougi> we need to do the mounting stuff again
[05:47] <johan> ok
[05:47] <kalorin`> learn about file name masks/
[05:47] <Linux_Galore> there is actually a kde app that cleans out your system for you, its called kleansweep
[05:47] <kalorin`> or a little bash scripting
[05:47] <kalorin`> or if they'r eall in the same directory rf -fr <directory>
[05:47] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: what do you mean by cleans out system?
[05:47] <kalorin`> <---- never seen a file he couldn't delete
[05:48] <slougi> johan: so, once again "sudo -i", "mkdir temp", "mount /dev/sda1 temp"
[05:48] <intelikey> Alonea close konq and in the konsole  sudo rm -R ~/.trash     or ~/.Trash   which ever it is.   and  ln -s /dev/null ~/.trash      do what you need to do then rm the link
[05:48] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: removes uneeded files or blank files, bad links files that are doubled up on etc
[05:48] <johan> done
[05:48] <slougi> johan: nice
[05:49] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: I will look at it. just dont want it to delete something I might need
[05:49] <johan> :0
[05:49] <johan> :)
[05:49] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: cleans out tmp files and your trash, very similar to the windows system manager tool
[05:49] <slougi> johan: "cd temp", "mount -t proc proc proc", "mount -t sysfs sys sys", "mount -o bind /dev dev", "cd .."
[05:49] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: alright. will run that and see what happens
[05:49] <ayande_> Does anyone know what I should do in order to make phpmail work?
[05:49] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: it gives you a list before it does anything
[05:49] <johan> wait
[05:49] <slougi> johan: ok :)
[05:50] <johan> mount: mount point proc does not exist
[05:50] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: you can even tell it what files types to ignore
[05:50] <slougi> johan: did you do "cd temp"?
[05:50] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: well, thing is I dont know what a lot of these files are in my home folder are and what they are for.
[05:50] <johan> yes
[05:50] <slougi> johan: with "ls" what files do you see?
[05:50] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: you can query each one and it will tell you why it is listed
[05:51] <johan> its my windows partition files
[05:51] <johan> windows
[05:51] <slougi> johan: ah, ok
[05:51] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: even colour codes them too
[05:51] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: thats really nice. installing it at the moment. gui?
[05:51] <slougi> johan: "cd ..", "umount temp"
[05:51] <slougi> johan: linux was on sda2?
[05:51] <johan> yes
[05:51] <slougi> ok, remembered wrongly
[05:52] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: yep it has a gui its a kde app heh
[05:52] <slougi> johan: so after the umount do "mount /dev/sda2 temp"
[05:52] <johan> done
[05:52] <slougi> ok
[05:52] <slougi> johan: "cd temp", "mount -t proc proc proc", "mount -t sysfs sys sys", "mount -o bind /dev dev", "cd .." :)
[05:52] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: goodie. i dont mind the terminal, but sometimes its frustrating.
[05:53] <johan> done
[05:53] <slougi> johan: cool
[05:53] <johan> :)
[05:53] <slougi> johan: what does "cat temp/boot/grub/device.map" output?
[05:53] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: all apps beginning with a "K"  are GUI apps
[05:53] <slougi> Linux_Galore: not quite all, but most
[05:53] <johan> hd
[05:54] <Linux_Galore> slougi: Ive never seen a k-app thats cli
[05:54] <slougi> johan: just "hd"?
[05:54] <johan> (hd0) /dev/hdc (hd1) /dev/sda
[05:54] <Dragnslcr> I'd say most apps beginning with a G are GUI apps as well
[05:54] <mattchewie> Hey all, I was wondering is the restricted devices manager in Kubuntu?
[05:54] <Dragnslcr> "K" for KDE-made, "G" for Gnome-made
[05:54] <slougi> Linux_Galore: kconfig_compiler kconf_update for example
[05:54] <Druntar> well I'm back
[05:54] <hakaisou> is there a way that I can test to see if my Microphone can hear me?
[05:54] <Druntar> mouse is working again
[05:55] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: ok, guess that makes sense. i just don't kknow why some programs can't have a gui. I mean, some I can kind of see, but others it just makes it a hassle to figure out the exact command to do a simple task
[05:55] <slougi> johan: ok one second
[05:55] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: the problem with G is allot of gnu cli stuff begins with G
[05:55] <johan> ok
[05:55] <Druntar> and qparted worked now I just need to get linux to instal
[05:55] <intelikey> johan and grub boots on which ?
[05:55] <mattchewie> as does GTK apps...
[05:55] <Dragnslcr> Linux_Galore- true
[05:55] <hakaisou> is there a way that I can test to see if my Microphone can hear me?
[05:55] <intelikey> johan the ide or the sata/scsi  ?
[05:55] <johan> sata
[05:55] <Dragnslcr> Alonea- heh, welcome to the world of *nix
[05:55] <johan> my linux
[05:56] <johan> the mbr was on ide
[05:56] <Druntar> ok here's the prob I'm on the live cd and when I click install on my desktop it locks up at choose language
[05:56] <intelikey> then it needs to be 0   (assuming you are changing bios to get it to boot that disk
[05:56] <Dragnslcr> Alonea- making graphical interfaces for *nix programs so that non-geeks can use Linux is relatively new
[05:56] <johan> yes
[05:56] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: heh. though I think my biggest pet peev is programs that have guis, but dont put themselves in the K Menu.
[05:56] <Druntar> ok mouse stopped again
[05:56] <slougi> johan: intelikey: that's exactly what i wanted to check
[05:56] <intelikey> yeah you need to switch the 0 and 1
[05:57] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: well its because how UNIX works, Unix apps in general are built like lego so they have a command line toolset and then someone creates a graphical front end for those things
[05:57] <makuseru> how can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?
[05:57] <Dragnslcr> Alonea- yup, that's pretty annoying
[05:57] <slougi> it's been too long since I really fiddled with grub
[05:57] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: really? I don't know C ++yet, but I am learning Java and guis are quite easy. Just didn't think it was that hard, thats all.
[05:57] <slougi> johan: so switch the two arguments around
[05:57] <johan> how?
[05:57] <intelikey> yeah i'd use lilo for that.   doesn't care so much about bios just real phisical addressing.
[05:57] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: especially when you install a bunch of things, then forget about what you installed
[05:58] <slougi> intelikey: you need to use a text editor to edit the file, nano for example
[05:58] <slougi> whoops
[05:58] <slougi> johan: you need to use a text editor to edit the file, nano for example
[05:58] <intelikey> :)
[05:58] <intelikey> yeah
[05:58] <slougi> intelikey: sorry :)
[05:58] <johan> ok edit what file
[05:58] <mattchewie> makuseru - alt+f2, type in konsole and at the prompt type in lspci
[05:58] <johan> device.map?
[05:58] <slougi> johan: yes
[05:58] <johan> i can use pico
[05:58] <makuseru> mattchewie: thanks
[05:58] <Dragnslcr> Alonea- simple GUI's for simple CLI programs are pretty easy to make, it's just that nobody has bothered for a lot of them
[05:59] <slougi> johan: if it is installed use pico. if not, use nano. it is _exactly_ like pico.
[05:59] <intelikey> it's a symlink to nano
[05:59] <johan> so what should i change?
[05:59] <mattchewie> makuseru - bah nevermind, I was thinking of how to get the chipset for you HD :( DOH!
[05:59] <slougi> intelikey: ah wasn't aware of that
[05:59] <Dragnslcr> I love nano
[05:59] <Linux_Galore> one*
[06:00] <Dragnslcr> So much easier to deal with than vi and emacs
[06:00] <slougi> johan: switch the 1 (one) and 0 (zero) in the hd0 and hd1 entries
[06:00] <intelikey> (hd0) /dev/hdc  \n (hd1) /dev/sda  >  (hd1) /dev/hdc  \n (hd0) /dev/sda
[06:00] <johan> ok
[06:00] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: also has less features than both emacs and vim
[06:00] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: ah. ok. well, when I program, I pretty much go with the "must assume user will be complete idiot" way of thought. So even if the program does not have a gui, I try to make it easy to understand.
[06:00] <johan> then save?
[06:01] <slougi> johan: yes
[06:01] <makuseru> how can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?
[06:01] <Dragnslcr> One of my professors in college talked about the religious wars between vi and emacs. I'd just sit in the back and think about how much I hated them both
[06:01] <johan> done
[06:01] <intelikey> Alonea good practice.   never under estimate the stupidity of an end user
[06:02] <slougi> intelikey: i am not sure if grub needs to reinstalled, do you know?
[06:02] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: nano is fine until you want to debug a file and it cant highlight any errors when both vim and emacs can
[06:02] <intelikey> slougi no it doesn't
[06:02] <slougi> that's what I was thinking, thanks
[06:02] <slougi> johan: just unmount the partitions and reboot
[06:02] <johan> umount temp?
[06:02] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: but I think what really frustrates me the most is terminal programs that I really don't understand, and then documentation does not exist. I dont care if the program is a simple calculator program. I want documentation.
[06:02] <intelikey> did you check his fstab ?
[06:02] <Dragnslcr> Linux_Galore- which is why I try to not deal with code in a shell
[06:03] <slougi> intelikey: ah right
[06:03] <intelikey> johan wait
[06:03] <slougi> johan: sec
[06:03] <slougi> i really need to leave, sorry
[06:03] <johan> ok
[06:03] <intelikey> slougi go.
[06:03] <slougi> thanks
[06:03] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: and a lot of times the program -? doesn't help as much as I would like
[06:03] <johan> thanks slougi
[06:03] <slougi> np johan
[06:03] <Dragnslcr> Alonea- yeah, documentation can be scarce for some stuff. Definitely makes things a lot more difficult
[06:03] <intelikey> johan cat temp/etc/fstab
[06:03] <hakaisou> what is the CLI command to change which sound card you broadcast through?
[06:04] <Alonea> intelikey: indeed. I am a user myself and can miss something that is really simple to someone else
[06:04] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: ide's are ok but most "new code" even at Microsoft isnt created in an IDE, (actually Microsoft uses emacs)
[06:04] <Dragnslcr> That's why you have to be brave. I try not to worry about completely hosing my system
[06:04] <intelikey> johan are they  /dev/hd*    or  blkid  ?
[06:04] <johan> # Entry for /dev/sda2 :
[06:04] <johan> UUID=0886ace5-a458-4d5c-9e5f-44e496e697d7 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[06:04] <intelikey> k that's fine.
[06:04] <johan> # Entry for /dev/hdc1 :
[06:05] <Dragnslcr> Emacs isn't an editor though, it's a flippin' operating system
[06:05] <johan> UUID=3d7d28cd-6583-4b06-a5f2-5e2e08f69f63 none swap sw 0 0
[06:05] <intelikey> yeah you can reboot.
[06:05] <johan> ok
[06:05] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: ide's are nice but they also create nice "C" average code, and trust me the proff's  can see that your work has been done in a ide from a mile away
[06:05] <johan> so i must not change my fstab?
[06:05] <makuseru> how can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?
[06:05] <intelikey> not needed
[06:05] <johan> ok
[06:05] <johan> thanks i'l be right back
[06:06] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: I just find not making documentation is lazy and bad form. I may not always like doing it, but I would rather do it so people can easier understand the program and use it, than have a bunch of people not use it because they don't understand
[06:06] <Dragnslcr> Er, my code doesn't look any different just because I use an IDE to write it
[06:06] <hakaisou> what is the CLI command to change which sound card you broadcast through?
[06:06] <Dragnslcr> Text is still text
[06:06] <intelikey> makuseru lshw
[06:06] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: modern IDE make you confrom to a method often this method is stupid considering the projects aims
[06:07] <Dragnslcr> Alonea- won't argue with that. Lucky for me, I've never really released any of my personal projects, so I haven't had to write much documentation for them
[06:07] <johan> just reboot?
[06:07] <johan> dont need to umount?
[06:07] <intelikey> johan you not back yet ?
[06:07] <johan> mo
[06:07] <johan> no
[06:07] <johan> :)
[06:07] <johan> i havent reboot
[06:07] <intelikey> johan the reboot process will umount all devices
[06:07] <johan> ok
[06:07] <johan> thanks
[06:08] <Alonea> Dragnslcr: same here. but my professor wants it, and I find it a good habit. Also on IDEs, I don't find the code any different either...what do you use? I use eclipse.
[06:08] <Dragnslcr> Linux_Galore- I dunno, the IDE's I've used are pretty much just text editors that automatically indent blocks and can autocomplete names
[06:08] <yotux> where are fonts stored in kubuntu?
[06:08] <mattchewie> makuseru - you still around?
[06:08] <Dragnslcr> Alonea- yeah, I write plenty of docs for stuff I do at work
[06:08] <yotux> I install mstruefonts and can't seem to find them
[06:08] <hakaisou> nevermind I figured it out.
[06:08] <makuseru> mattchewie: yea
[06:08] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: wait till you get your hands on some of the $$$$ IDE's, bloody things write the code for you just about
[06:09] <intelikey> yotux installed it how ?
[06:09] <Dragnslcr> We use Zend IDE at work. I used Visual Studio Express when I did some C# at home
[06:09] <yotux> apt-get install
[06:09] <mattchewie> makuseru - get your answer?
[06:09] <Dragnslcr> Linux_Galore- heh, I'll pass, thanks
[06:09] <yotux> I need to add one more font to debug a wine program
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: VS is very prone to producing rubbish, good for debugging though
[06:10] <intelikey> then either /etc/something/  or /usr/something   but you should have no need to look there.  what are you wanting to do with the fonts ?
[06:10] <makuseru> mattchewie: no
[06:10] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: really? damn..even I am not that lazy. I mean, I am still learning and appreciate it when eclipse points out a forgotten semicolon, and the debugger is nice, but there are even more advanced ides out there like you describe?
[06:10] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: yep
[06:10] <yotux> intelikey:  I want to add one more font to the mstruefonts
[06:11] <intelikey> ah use in wine....     hmmmm
[06:11] <Dragnslcr> It didn't seem too bad. I only used the wysiwyg part for laying out containers and stuff, though. I generally wrote all the functionality parts myself
[06:11] <yotux> intelikey:  I use quicken sorry
[06:11] <mattchewie> makuseru - looks like intelikey did send you the command, but its lshw, unless you know that your drives are sata, then you can cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: Ive spent many an hour cleaning up crap from lazy VS developers
[06:11] <Dragnslcr> I've seen the results of HTML generators though. That's some hideous stuff
[06:12] <makuseru> mattchewie: it is SATA
[06:12] <intelikey> well yotux   find / -type f -iname 'msttf*' 2>/dev/null
[06:12] <makuseru> mattchewie: thanks, just what i needed
[06:12] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: yeah, I hate HTML dumb ass tools
[06:12] <mattchewie> makuseru - np
[06:12] <Dragnslcr> I think the best parts of VS were the tab-completion and automatic renaming
[06:12] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: scary...I just use Eclipse because I the teacher uses Jcreator...which I hate. Its nice to me because of the debugger, multiple languages, and I can do my documentation in the same program. Don't think I need anything more advanced than that.
[06:13] <yotux> intelikey found them
[06:13] <mattchewie> Anyone run Feisty on an 8800GTS?
[06:13] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: Im not saying they are total crap, just in the wrong hands they product lots of crap\
[06:13] <mattchewie> or 88 series in genreal :D
[06:13] <Dragnslcr> Rename a method and it finds all places where it's called and changes the name for you
[06:14] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: emacs does all that
[06:14] <st1ckly78> does anyone know what plugins i need to play aac format in amarok
[06:14] <intelikey> vi mc jed joe emacs all do that
[06:14] <Linux_Galore> Dragnslcr: I can rename all the variables at once and it will even find suspect pointers
[06:15] <hakaisou> !flv
[06:15] <rizza> anyone know about preseeding
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <mattchewie> !nvidia
[06:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:15] <intelikey> rizza very little    but ask anyway
[06:15] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: I can see people doing that. I can also see it taking away the true creative process and most of the actual writing process that comes from the programmer. At least I know now when people go off on IDEs, they mean those types.
[06:16] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: well, that KleanSweep is still going. Over 500mb so far.
[06:17] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: I use those types of IDE but mainly for debugging, I wont touch the things when it comes to new projects
[06:17] <rizza> does auto work and can I use apt-cacher with ubuntu net install
[06:17] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: yeah, you must have set it to look at the whole system heh
[06:17] <intelikey> as to the las
[06:18] <intelikey> t part yes.     not sure about the other
[06:18] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: yeah. I can see that. oh, probably yes. but I have so much random crap from the 3-4 times I have reinstalled, that a good cleanup is what I need.
[06:19] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: be carefull with stuff in you users tmp directory, some things are there as page markers
[06:19] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: ok. I will. most of the stuff is from my home folder though.
[06:19] <rizza> I've tried to use apt-cacher with the installer with no luck same preseed file with debian proper and works perfectly
[06:20] <rizza> changed for debian repos of corse
[06:20] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: I would leave anything in /etc  alone too
[06:20] <intelikey> it seems like the repos addressing is different and that might affect it...
[06:21] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: unless they were bad links
[06:21] <hakaisou> !DVD
[06:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:21] <underdog5004> bleagh, I love skype, but whenever I call someone after I've been using a multimedia player, it locks my machine up for 5 minutes...CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE/CTRL-ALT-F[1|2|3|4]  don't help either...
[06:21] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: I plan on leaving most of the stuff from the root partition alone.
[06:21] <intelikey> you know the stable testing -vs- main universe   the dir structure is not the same.   iirc.
[06:22] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: well the orphaned links your ok with
[06:22] <intelikey> caution
[06:22] <underdog5004> any ideas? I'm using ALSA on an intel ICH5 soundcard, although I'm using a plantronic usb headset for all skype sounds...
[06:22] <intelikey> that's not always so Linux_Galore
[06:22] <Alonea> underdog5004: even magical sys rq does not work? (assuming your computer locks up and you have to press power button)
[06:22] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: orphaned links are usually created due to an update not cleaning up properly
[06:22] <soulrider_> !7zip
[06:22] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:23] <intelikey> that thing can rm symlinks that are actually still in use
[06:23] <rizza> Very clear on that and think the the ubuntu installer ignores my apt-cache for some reason
[06:23] <Druntar> ok here's my new problem. when I click on the install icon on my desktop on the kububtu live cd it locks the comp up
[06:23] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: not if you restrict it to orphaned links
[06:23] <Druntar> it locks up on step 1 and won't let me do anything else with the install
[06:23] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: so far, no orphaned files
[06:24] <underdog5004> Alonea, never tried sys rq...I never thought of it...
[06:24] <intelikey> oooh yuch
[06:24] <Alonea> underdog5004: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring ^_____^
[06:24] <intelikey> Druntar are you sure it's locked ?  not just slow ?
[06:25] <underdog5004> uh... RSEUB?
[06:25] <underdog5004> BUSER?
[06:25] <Druntar> seems locked to me
[06:25] <soulrider_> !iso
[06:25] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:25] <Alonea> underdog5004: RSEIUB
[06:25] <Druntar> maybe I'm just being impatient I'll try again
[06:25] <underdog5004> alonea, please explain...
[06:25] <intelikey> Alonea so is fattening jaguars
[06:26] <Alonea> underdog5004: ok, to do a safe reboot with the magical sys you hold down I thin alt + sys rq, then type in those letters.
[06:26] <Alonea> underdog5004: google magical sys and there is a wiki page about it.
[06:26] <Alonea> underdog5004: it will tell you more about it and more commands.
[06:26] <intelikey> e u b
[06:26] <underdog5004> gotcha...thanks.
[06:27] <underdog5004> but...no solution? lol
[06:27] <Alonea> underdog5004: sorry...dont do video chat on here because webcam does not work on here
[06:27] <intelikey> !sysrq
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sysrq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <Druntar> ok well I guess I'm going to go cook some ramen while I wait
[06:28] <underdog5004> Alonea, I'm only interested in voip
[06:28] <intelikey> Druntar shouldn't take but 2 minutes max.
[06:28] <underdog5004> voice, not video
[06:28] <intelikey> Druntar if it's not moving in that time it's hung
[06:29] <underdog5004> anyway, I've gotta go pick someone up...bbl
[06:29] <makuseru> Hi, i recently bought a SATA drive, and the manual says it should get 300mb/s but im only getting 55mb/s, am i doing somthing wrong?
[06:29] <Alonea> underdog5004: oh sorry, thought you were using video cam on skype. a bit silly today.
[06:30] <intelikey> makuseru might tweek the "hdpram" a bit and see what you come up with     check dmesg and see if  DMA is working on it
[06:31] <Druntar> well it's been running since I said I was going to start some ramen
[06:31] <Druntar> so almost 5 mins and still not moving
[06:31] <intelikey> Druntar what kind of specs ?
[06:32] <Druntar> pentium D dual core 3 ghz
[06:32] <Druntar> 1 gig of pc 5700 ram
[06:32] <Druntar> 250gb hd
[06:32] <intelikey> p99 3zillion ghz   yeah... nough.
[06:32] <Druntar> lol
[06:32] <Druntar> I just built it 3 months ago
[06:33] <makuseru> intelikey: the only thing that i saw that said dma in it was [17179577.244000]  eth0: dma_rwctrl[763f0000]  dma_mask[64-bit] 
[06:33] <Druntar> wiat
[06:33] <Druntar> it's moving yay
[06:33] <intelikey> it was just a a thought.   low mem problem   but you shot that down.
[06:33] <intelikey> makuseru then turning on dma should help
[06:34] <intelikey> hdparm --help | less
[06:34] <Druntar> guess I just didn't wait long enough
[06:35] <makuseru> intelikey: was that command for me?
[06:35] <intelikey> makuseru heh yeah but drop the pipe it outputs to stderr
[06:35] <makuseru> ok
[06:36] <intelikey> Druntar how long would that be ?
[06:36] <makuseru> intelikey: and what is it i need to do?
[06:36] <Druntar> about 6-8 mins for it to load the language list I'm on step 4 now
[06:37] <Druntar> ok should I select guided use the largest continuous free space?
[06:37] <Druntar> or manual
[06:37] <Druntar> ?
[06:38] <intelikey> makuseru prolly read the man page cause i'm not going to walk you through breaking your new drive   ;/
[06:38] <makuseru> wait? breaking it?
[06:38] <makuseru> why wont it transfer at 300mb/s like it says it will?
[06:39] <toby> how do i put an msn account on this thing???
[06:39] <intelikey> Druntar you mean it takes it longer on a   p99 3zillion ghz 1000T ram   system than it does on my p1 100mhz  ????  </blinks>
[06:40] <Druntar> praying this doesn't break my vista till I get my files off
[06:40] <Druntar> everyone cross your fingers
[06:40] <makuseru> ill cross them that vista breaks
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> no need, vista's broken already
[06:41] <intelikey> makuseru if it was mine.  i'd turn on dma  and see what it did.  but it's yours and i can't afford to buy it if you break it.
[06:41] <Druntar> hey I still need my personal files off that vista install
[06:41] <makuseru> how do i turn on dma?
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> Druntar: do it soon :)
[06:42] <osiris> http://wickedtribe.homeip.net/screenshots/5_5_07.png
[06:42] <intelikey> i think the command may be  hdparm -d  something or another
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> and the purpose of that screenshot was?
[06:43] <osiris> im bored
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> good reason :)
[06:43] <osiris> staring at my net monitor
[06:43] <intelikey> that's what  ##windows is for osiris
[06:43] <osiris> =)
[06:44] <makuseru> osiris: is that winamp?
[06:44] <osiris> nope
[06:44] <osiris> xmms
[06:44] <makuseru> i use to use that skin when i had winduhs
[06:44] <makuseru> xmms can use winamp akins?
[06:44] <osiris> yep
[06:44] <osiris> old ver 3 ones
[06:44] <makuseru> didnt know
[06:45] <makuseru> oh well, i like amarok over xmms
[06:45] <osiris> to heavy for me
[06:46] <jpiccolo> if i have alot of RX errors, would that cause a slow lan file transfer?
[06:46] <yhsoft12> who is korea user of ubuntu ??
[06:46] <johnt> Hey folks: I am trying to get k3b working. My first problem is that totem will not plat MPEG files so how to fix please??
[06:46] <intelikey> and i can do play lists, randomized, loop, and all the cools stuff just no eyecandy
[06:47] <Druntar> crap mouse went out again
[06:47] <Druntar> that's going to have to be the first thing I fix once I get this installed
[06:47] <joe7d6> Hi. I'm investigating security implementation on ubuntu 7.04. hows the security features in ubuntu compare to the following distros? http://en.opensuse.org/Security_Features http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features  thanks in advance :)
[06:47] <intelikey> !mpeg
[06:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:47] <joe7d6> Hi. I'm investigating security implementation on ubuntu 7.04. hows the security features in ubuntu compare to the following distros? http://en.opensuse.org/Security_Features http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features  thanks in advance :)
[06:47] <joe7d6> ignore apparmor which i despise :p
[06:47] <yhsoft12> help me, are you linuxer?
[06:48] <osiris> yes, just not korean
[06:48] <Druntar> linuxer?
[06:48] <yhsoft12> ah.....
[06:48] <underdog5004> yay, I'm back...
[06:48] <makuseru> intelikey: i do "hdparm -d " and it just lists the man
[06:48] <intelikey> makuseru man hdparm
[06:48] <intelikey> or ask someone else
[06:49] <yhsoft12> please teach me, install vmware for linux.
[06:49] <yhsoft12> continue, put string error message."
[06:49] <intelikey> yhsoft12  sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[06:49] <yhsoft12> i'm not speak english very well
[06:49] <yhsoft12> ok
[06:49] <dsmith> !ntfs
[06:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:50] <dsmith> !ntfs
[06:50] <yhsoft12> i do it
[06:50] <yhsoft12> but
[06:50] <yhsoft12> drror messang
[06:50] <yhsoft12> error
[06:50] <yhsoft12> message
[06:50] <johnt> !k3b-plugins
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k3b-plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <yhsoft12> um..
[06:50] <yhsoft12> c header file
[06:50] <yhsoft12> error..
[06:50] <yhsoft12> incorrect directory
[06:50] <yhsoft12> T _t
[06:50] <underdog5004> johnt, what do you need?
[06:50] <intelikey> o,O
[06:51] <redfive> whats the best way to install beryl?
[06:51] <osiris> yhsoft12, i think you need a -dev package for a lib.  can you paste the error in a paste bin ?
[06:51] <yhsoft12> no, i'm not used beryl
[06:51] <underdog5004> redfive, follow the guide @ www.beryl-project.com
[06:51] <underdog5004> redfive, unless you're using feisty...
[06:51] <yhsoft12> um.. just moment. i'll be back.
[06:51] <osiris> http://rafb.net/paste
[06:51] <underdog5004> I've had _really_ luck w/ feisty and beryl
[06:52] <underdog5004> g'night
[06:52] <johnt> underdog: i want to burn a dvd and I am gettting error msgs fro k3b and if I try to save image to disk totem cannot read mpeg1 file
[06:52] <dsmith> is writing to NTFS suppoted?
[06:52] <Druntar> <twiddles thumbs while waiting>
[06:53] <osiris> johnt, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 and a few other packages first
[06:53] <johnt> underdog: need to know which plugins or files i need to d/l
[06:53] <Druntar> 60% there......
[06:53] <intelikey> !ntfs > dsmith
[06:54] <johnt> osoris: neat which others do I need?
[06:54] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g > dsmith
[06:54] <dsmith> intelikey I read that
[06:54] <dsmith> I should have said is writing to NTFS safe?
[06:54] <dsmith> comment in Konsole said no
[06:54] <osiris> !restriced formats > johnt
[06:54] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: on duplicated files, does it just put the extra version, or all versions on it?
[06:54] <intelikey> safe as in safe sex   or safe as in money in the bank
[06:54] <dsmith> lol
[06:55] <intelikey> errr bad analagy  neither are safe
[06:55] <osiris> !restricedformats > johnt
[06:55] <dsmith> i got you
[06:55] <yhsoft12> sir ?
[06:55] <dsmith> ok after sudo fdisk -l, I found the drive as sda1
[06:56] <dsmith> installed diskmounted in its visible now in RO
[06:56] <osiris> yes ?
[06:56] <johnt> osiris; the bot did msg me  thanks
[06:56] <dsmith> *diskmounter
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: not sure to be honest
[06:56] <intelikey> you installed ntfs-3g ?
[06:56] <yhsoft12> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernal? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[06:56] <dsmith> yep
[06:56] <osiris> yhsoft12, you need the kernel sources
[06:56] <yhsoft12> okay
[06:56] <dsmith> intelikey: yes
[06:57] <yhsoft12> may be
[06:57] <yhsoft12> kernal source update ?
[06:57] <intelikey> dsmith  mount | gerp dev/sda1
[06:57] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: hmm...I think it does put all versions..which is kind of a bad thing (not that I have removed such files yet or anything)
[06:57] <intelikey> what it says ?
[06:57] <dsmith> hahah gerp
[06:57] <intelikey> well untypo that
[06:57] <yhsoft12> intelikey
[06:58] <yhsoft12> um..
[06:58] <dsmith>     /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000,user=dsmith)
[06:58] <dsmith> its working
[06:58] <yhsoft12> i execute that line
[06:58] <yhsoft12> notthing put screen
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: if you not sure uncheck it
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> you are*
[06:59] <intelikey> ok looks like you need to umount it and edit the /etc/fstab    type should be  ntfs-3g
[06:59] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: i know, but its a bit of a pain when there are over 3000 duplicated files.
[06:59] <yhsoft12> now umount?
[06:59] <dsmith> i am not concerned about it being read/write
[07:00] <dsmith> I prefer not farking my box
[07:00] <intelikey> yhsoft12 sorry that was for dsmith
[07:00] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: just stick to the ones in your home directory
[07:00] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: these are the ones in my home directory. I redid it just for the /home/
[07:01] <dsmith> I suppose I could get another usb drive and format as ext3
[07:01] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: @@
[07:01] <axident> Anyone able to help me with a dual boot issue?
[07:01] <yhsoft12> hu...... linux is very hard for beginners.. i'm 15 years old.
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: there will be allot of duplication in the .kde and .gnome  directories because they are theme or icons files so they all have the same name
[07:01] <Alonea> axident: depends. what is going on?
[07:02] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: ok. anyway I can have those folders ignored?
[07:02] <intelikey> yhsoft12 yes  /usr/src/linux/include  should be right.    you may need to install  linux-headers-<your kernel arch>
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: yep just uncheck them or look or just set the filter options to ingore duplicates
[07:02] <yhsoft12> um... just moment
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> oops
[07:03] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: well, part of the problem is on the duplicated files, it is NOT saying where the files are located.
[07:03] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: yep, just uncheck them or set the filter options to ignore duplicate
[07:03] <intelikey> dsmith setting up the fstab correctly will make it automount with read/write access and the dmask= fmask= will give your users access
[07:04] <dsmith> intelikey: I was reading about that but it seems perhaps risky
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: you should be able to query each one
[07:04] <dsmith> I will read about it some more
[07:04] <intelikey> dsmith yeah that's why i mentioned the "what kind of safe" thing
[07:05] <dsmith> heh
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: if they are under .gnome or .kde ignore them
[07:05] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: I can have it open directory, and thats it, but doing open directory on over 3000 objects isn't practical
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: they are intentional duplicated
[07:05] <miguel> hi, i am from chile
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> duplicates*
[07:05] <miguel> i need help
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: then add .kde and .gnome to the filter to be ignored
[07:05] <intelikey> well welcome to cyber space miguel
[07:06] <yhsoft12> * intelikey *
[07:06] <yhsoft12> um..
[07:06] <yhsoft12> linux-headers-2.6.20-15 right?
[07:06] <killermach_> ok.. I installed kubuntu-beryl how do I "enable" it?
[07:06] <intelikey> looks good to me.     uname -a    will tell you what you are running.
[07:07] <intelikey> !beryl | killermach_
[07:07] <ubotu> killermach_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:07] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: ok. got it. lets try again!
[07:07] <Druntar> wow the install is taking it's sweet time
[07:07] <yhsoft12> linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-server #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:41:34 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:07] <intelikey> Druntar i'm serious my p1 box installed in less time.
[07:08] <killermach_> yes yes.. I was told that earlier.. then why is there a package for it? and why in gnome you click System->Preferences->Desktop Effects?
[07:08] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: ok this is weird. It wasn't showing where the files were before on the duplicated files list, but now it is...
[07:08] <intelikey> yhsoft12 then yes it is  2.6.20-15
[07:08] <yhsoft12> okay
[07:08] <kane_> anyone know if its possible to access a MSSQL db with a linux clinet?
[07:09] <intelikey> kane_ should be.  but that's not in my spheer of knowledge
[07:09] <yhsoft12> * intelikey * i now well follow you ?
[07:09] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: yeah, you must have the libmindreader.so.1  plugin installed
[07:09] <axident> anyone willing to help me sort out a dual boot issue? If so please message me.
[07:10] <yhsoft12> um...
[07:11] <soulrider_> axident: whats the issue ?
[07:11] <intelikey> axident just concisely describe the issue and the facts surrounding it.
[07:11] <Linux_Galore> kane_: always check on www.freshmeat.net
[07:11] <Alonea> Linux_Galore: *shrugs* ok, another to add to list is  ie4linux...daaaayam there are duplicates alllll over the place on that thing
[07:11] <kane_> hrm, thanks i'll look around there.
[07:11] <soulrider_> who the hell wants IE? and whot he hell wants it on linux!
[07:11] <BellaireLinuxN3r> there's ie for linux?
[07:12] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: yeah, usuall MS bloat
[07:12] <soulrider_> emulates most likely
[07:12] <soulrider_> ok, im going to bed
[07:12] <soulrider_> bye bye!
[07:12] <Linux_Galore> BellaireLinuxN3r: its an applications that installs IE in Linux
[07:12] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> ugh...
[07:12] <axident>  1 harddrive and it's partitioned...
[07:12] <axident>   1 partition had XP and the other was a storage.... then vista came out, I installed vista on my storage partition... now i only use vista and decided i would install ubuntu on my XP partition... read some things and configured grub the way i was told, but now I get NTLDR is missing when trying to boot to Vista... I know that Grub goofed the vista bootloader but dunno how to fix it without wiping out grub
[07:12] <Alonea> soulrider_: I had it for a webpage for my class that wasn't working with firefox....though it works now
[07:13] <Alonea> axident: ok, I did the EXACT same thing too
[07:13] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: most webdevs who work from Linux install IE just in case
[07:13] <yhsoft12> * intelikey * Thanks for your help.
[07:13] <Snowman> hiya folks, anyone have any experience with the knetworkmanager under feisty?
[07:13] <axident> here's the problem though... i don't have a floppy drive to make a boot disk to boot back into ubuntu after doing a startup repair on Vista using the Vista CD
[07:13] <intelikey> yhsoft12 welcome.
[07:14] <Alonea> axident: and it did not goof the vista boot. What is happening is Vista is looking for XP and not finding it.
[07:14] <Druntar> ok it's been sitting on 64% forever
[07:14] <Snowman> having a bit of a problem getting it to list and connect to wireless LAN's, although the manual config worked.  The manual config however didn't actually do anything other than connect to my router and now I have no list of LAN's...
[07:14] <Linux_Galore> axident: you use the Vista cd and recover the mbr
[07:14] <axident> ah... that would make sense...
[07:14] <Alonea> axident: and I tried doing the repair function for vista on the vista dvd, and it did n
[07:14] <BellaireLinuxN3r> axident: your probably need to restore NTLDR then overwrite it with grub
[07:14] <Alonea> axident: did not work for me. you can try though.
[07:15] <intelikey> axident the install cd or live cd for ubuntu, either will let you reinstall grub
[07:15] <st1ckly78> hello i need some help please
[07:15] <axident> Hmm... ok any suggestions on restoring the NTLDR?
[07:16] <BellaireLinuxN3r> st1ckly78: hiya! just ask and someone here's bound to know what's wrong
[07:16] <intelikey> axident have you visited the wiki on that issue ?
[07:16] <intelikey> !grub | axident
[07:16] <ubotu> axident: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:16] <Snowman> no wireless users in the house?
[07:16] <st1ckly78> i am trying to get my .avi files to play in vlc but all i get is sound what else do i need
[07:16] <intelikey> !wifi | Snowman
[07:16] <ubotu> Snowman: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:16] <Snowman> intelikey: yeah, read that.
[07:17] <Snowman> it says I should see a list of wireless lans.  I don't.  hence my question :)
[07:17] <intelikey> best i can do ya.
[07:17] <Snowman> ah :\
[07:17] <BellaireLinuxN3r> st1ckly78: do you know the codec for your .avi file? It might be one that VLC doesn't have
[07:17] <Snowman> I mean, it _IS_ connected, but I'd like to be able to connect to others without having to manually config each time.
[07:17] <st1ckly78> no
[07:17] <axident> thanks intelikey
[07:18] <intelikey> Snowman if you can translate kde to gnome  gnome to kde commands you can ask in  #ubuntu
[07:18] <intelikey> axident not at all
[07:18] <st1ckly78> all i know is i have installed the GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin but that got me the sound only
[07:19] <Alonea> axident: short of rewriting it yourself, I dont know, try googling restoring the ntldr.
[07:19] <intelikey> vlc-plugin-ggi - GGI video output plugin for VLC
[07:19] <intelikey> vlc-plugin-glide - Glide video output plugin for VLC
[07:19] <intelikey> vlc-plugin-sdl - SDL video and audio output plugin for VLC
[07:19] <st1ckly78> cool
[07:20] <axident> hmm... i think I have some ideas to play with now... thanks for the info!
[07:20] <Alonea> axident: no problem. we try
[07:21] <Alonea> axident: worst case you end up reinstalling windows and then fixing grub. I ended up doing that. good luck!
[07:21] <axident> I am sure I will be back... hehe...
[07:22] <intelikey> axident from what i hear (hear say only cause i don't do windows) windows may give lots of problems if not on the first primary drive&partition   you may have to reinstall it there and install your linux where ever is left.
[07:22] <intelikey> i guess i'm too late on that
[07:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> intelikey: you're probably right
[07:22] <intelikey> i lag
[07:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> i'm lucky - I have two drives, so I just installed linux on the other drive
[07:23] <BellaireLinuxN3r> windows is a spoiled brat :)
[07:23] <intelikey> i have 8 drives in this box...
[07:25] <intelikey> looks like the noon crowd has died down...
[07:25] <BellaireLinuxN3r> lol
[07:26] <icecruncher> lol, I'll make up for it
[07:26] <intelikey> go ahead, i'm not goin' to answer you anyway
[07:26] <intelikey> :)
[07:26] <icecruncher> can anyone tell me how to remotely limit the speed of another computer on the same network? :)
[07:27] <Alonea> is there a command you can do the delete instead of sending to trash?
[07:27] <intelikey> traffic shaping  ?
[07:27] <BellaireLinuxN3r> there's probably something in the router that you can change...maybe...:)
[07:27] <icecruncher> yeah, the other comp uses way to much bandwidth
[07:28] <intelikey> Alonea yes you can enable delete in the menu on konqueror  or use the hot keys   or use a konsole and rm it
[07:28] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, what is the hotkey for it?
[07:28] <kai> can some one help, I was banned from this channel for like months and I didn't know know
[07:28] <intelikey> icecruncher well not because of the pun eariler but i can't answer that.....    idk.
[07:28] <kai> how can I reserve my nick
[07:29] <icecruncher> intelikey: k  lol
[07:29] <intelikey> Alonea shift del   i think  but it is adjustable
[07:29] <Alonea> intelikey: thats fine. it works
[07:29] <intelikey> !register | kai
[07:29] <ubotu> kai: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:30] <kai> thank you
[07:30] <intelikey> not at all
[07:30] <Alonea> intelikey: what can I use to partition again?
[07:31] <Alonea> intelikey: like, either in the cmd prompt, or a gui.
[07:31] <kai> I think the first time there was something worng with my install how can i get my weather bug and my 'geyes' back
[07:31] <intelikey> gparted  qtparted   cfdiak   parted  fdisk
[07:31] <intelikey> take your pick
[07:32] <Alonea> intelikey: is there a way I can split a drive without deleting off the contents?
[07:32] <icecruncher> kai, add them as apps in the task bar
[07:32] <intelikey> geyes ?    isn't that gnomish
[07:32] <icecruncher> intelikey: probably
[07:32] <kai> There not there
[07:33] <intelikey> Alonea if the free space is consolidated at one end, yes
[07:33] <kai> Thats why I think the first time I upgraded something went wrong
[07:33] <Alonea> intelikey: ok. how would I do this? does cfdisk do it, or should I use another?
[07:33] <kai> I had all that stuff and I had this HUGE memory leak issue when I ran netbeans for extended periods
[07:33] <intelikey> xeyes - X client - xeyes
[07:33] <Alonea> kai: I dunno, but I have missing applets as well when I upgraded. Like the moon thing...
[07:34] <intelikey> tuxeyes - a fancy version of xeyes
[07:34] <ForgeAus> hey intelikey :)
[07:34] <kai> Alonea: Its weird I never get the same install when I have installed kubuntu
[07:34] <intelikey> Alonea ummmm i think i'd use gparted for that
[07:34] <intelikey> ForgeAus
[07:35] <Druntar> ok it's still at 64%
[07:35] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, will try that
[07:35] <Druntar> should this be taking so long?
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> Druntar, what are you doing?
[07:36] <kai> This install is good
[07:36] <Alonea> intelikey: I have a large external hdd and I have some backup info that I want to keep, but then I want the rest of the 100 or so gigs to be in a separate partition
[07:36] <intelikey> Druntar go walk the dog,  or talk to a hooker or something for a while   and see if it finishes....
[07:36] <kai> I had huge probs Idunno what happnedw/ the other one
[07:36] <intelikey> hitmanWilly he's installing
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> ahhh, ok...
[07:37] <BellaireLinuxN3r> did it hang on hardware detection?
[07:37] <intelikey> BellaireLinuxN3r after writing files... 64%
[07:37] <mehmet> hi
[07:38] <mehmet> i wan to install all packges on Kubuntu 7.04 dvd
[07:38] <mehmet> how to this?
[07:38] <kai> I luv u linux
[07:38] <kai> :)
[07:39] <mehmet> i was download some packages before this installation
[07:39] <mehmet> i was format my pc and installed new kubuntu from dvd
[07:39] <mehmet> now i want to install my packages
[07:40] <mehmet> but there are 590 packages
[07:40] <intelikey> mehmet i don't think you can.   some will conflict with others and you will have to choose one or the other....   but    for Q in [a-z]  ;do apt-get install $Q* ;done      should try to do it.
[07:40] <mehmet> what the install command?
[07:40] <intelikey> oh wait.  local.
[07:40] <mehmet> intelikey:  i made but it is not ok :(
[07:41] <danny500> Hey, if I update my computer to the nex Ubuntu from 6.10 will it totally erase everything that is on the drive or just update the kernal to 7.04?
[07:41] <icecruncher> danny500, it'll  update all old packages
[07:41] <intelikey> not the best idea to try to automate dpkg -i *    but you can try it.
[07:41] <Alonea> danny500: shouldn't erase anything on the drive if you do the upgrade command. I didn't loose anything
[07:41] <icecruncher> danny500, no erase :)
[07:42] <intelikey> in the dir of the packages
[07:42] <intelikey> mehmet ^
[07:42] <danny500> ok, then I'm going to 7.04 now starting now :) tired of waiting for the disks to come in
[07:42] <danny500> lol
[07:42] <danny500> thanks guy's brb switching to 7.04 O_O
[07:43] <intelikey> danny500 it will over write most of the "system & application " files  but no erase
[07:43] <icecruncher> intelikey, he's offline
[07:43] <mehmet> intelikey:  ok it is running :)
[07:43] <BellaireLinuxN3r> lol
[07:44] <intelikey> icecruncher yes his signoff and my post are almost at the same time on my screen.
[07:44] <icecruncher> intelikey, ahh, not here
[07:44] <icecruncher> lol
[07:44] <intelikey> yes i lag
[07:45] <icecruncher> who doesn't
[07:45] <icecruncher> lol
[07:45] <lego> I am new to kubuntu.  How do I explore files, access my CD drive to copy files to the hard drive?
[07:45] <ForgeAus> exploring files is done by a program called konqueror
[07:45] <intelikey> konqueror
[07:45] <lego> I have been against Linux for a long time, but I am starting to lean towds it now that I can actually get it working.
[07:45] <ForgeAus> copying is also done there
[07:46] <intelikey> could use mozilla
[07:46] <BellaireLinuxN3r> you need to mount your cd first
[07:46] <Alonea> lego: Konqueror is the file explorer. you can access it through the little computer icon next to the K Menu (at least thats how mine is set up)
[07:46] <ForgeAus> (note you will need permissions to copy anywhere other than to somewhere in /home/<user>/ directory
[07:46] <intelikey> BellaireLinuxN3r or use the kio slave
[07:46] <lego> I see CDROM0 CDROM1 FLOPPY
[07:46] <ForgeAus> Alonea, its a blue ball icon, not a computer one
[07:46] <icecruncher> lego, konweror is also a internet browser, just in case you need it :)
[07:46] <ForgeAus> (the computer icon is either a terminal one or the system menu)
[07:46] <Alonea> ForgeAus: oh, its a computer icon for me.
[07:47] <Alonea> ForgeAus: has the list of home, storage media, etc.
[07:47] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah, that's how it is on mine too alonea
[07:47] <ForgeAus> (it also has a gear around it btw)
[07:47] <ForgeAus> the list one is a system menu... thats not konqueror
[07:47] <lego> How do I mount the drives?  Clicking on then does nothing.
[07:47] <ForgeAus> but you can use it to start konqueror
[07:47] <Alonea> ForgeAus: ok, I didnt say the computer icon was the K Menu icon with the gear and is blue
[07:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> right click, there should be a option of "mount"
[07:48] <ForgeAus> (ie the way you view places, storage media, etc starts konqueror to do so)
[07:48] <intelikey> lego  in kde   learn to right click everything.
[07:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> make sure you have a CD in it or it'll complain at you :)
[07:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> intelikey: pretty much that's how KDE works lol
[07:48] <Snowman> ok, this is getting annoying.  Still having no luck whatsoever with this new version of the network manager.
[07:49] <Snowman> anyone have any experience with wireless and knetworkmanager, I could use a hand. :\
[07:49] <ForgeAus> does the computer icon your talking about have a kubuntu logo on the screen?
[07:49] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I was saying how to access files and where the system menu icon is located, which for me, is right next to the K Menu icon.
[07:49] <lego> Nothing saying mount.
[07:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> lego: also if you don't like single click to open things, you might want to change that, since it's on by default
[07:49] <lego> Says its a folder.
[07:49] <lego> I like single click.
[07:49] <ForgeAus> (Alonea I think thats pretty close to the default setting)
[07:50] <intelikey> "the pointy clicky thingy"
[07:50] <BellaireLinuxN3r> lego: okay, that's really weird
[07:50] <ForgeAus> hehe intelikey, right click is much like microsoft windows anywya
[07:50] <Alonea> ForgeAus: ...I am just saying you misunderstood what I said...
[07:50] <lego> I clicked on konkerer, then storage media
[07:51] <lego> excuse my bad spelling.
[07:51] <intelikey> ForgeAus yeah but that don't mean i'd want it to not do anything on right click.
[07:51] <intelikey> like that other desktop does
[07:51] <ForgeAus> Actually Alonea, I think I was being kinda technical, it just sounded wrong when you said computer icon because I know what konqi's icon looks like
[07:51] <Alonea> lego: yeha, storage media is all your cd, usb, and other hard drives. If you click on Home, that is sorta equivalent to My Documents
[07:51] <icecruncher> anybody using pidgin 2 yet? :] 
[07:51] <Snowman> intelikey: could the manual configuration of the interface be what's causing it to not have a list of wireless lans?
[07:52] <intelikey> Snowman i really have no idea.   when it comes to wireless and networking in general, i'm dumb as a box of rocks
[07:53] <Snowman> ah, sorry to bug you :)
[07:53] <Alonea> icecruncher: i think I am. you having any problems connecting?
[07:53] <Snowman> kinda wishing I'd stuck with dapper.
[07:53] <intelikey> but if you can tell me what you want it to do i can write a bash script for it....  :)    hehheh
[07:53] <icecruncher> Alonea: nope, just starting to compile from source
[07:53] <BellaireLinuxN3r> lego: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_CD.2FDVD-ROM_manually.2C_and_show_all_hidden_and_associated_files.2Ffolders
[07:54] <lego> I am brain dead.  I just realized I haven't inserted a CD yet.
[07:54] <matias_> how can i use the threedimensional desktop?
[07:54] <Alonea> icecruncher: oh, ok. well, it should of come in the upgrade to Fiesty if you did it that way. I haven't compiled it from source.
[07:54] <ForgeAus> !pigdin
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pigdin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <ForgeAus> matias, theres three packages for 3d desktops
[07:54] <BellaireLinuxN3r> lego: That may be a problem... :)
[07:54] <ForgeAus> Beryl, the most popular, compiz, and 3d Desktop
[07:54] <matias_> ok
[07:55] <lego> brb
[07:55] <intelikey> Snowman if you can't get anything out of these clowns   try #ubuntu    ##linux   ##linuxhelp   #wifi or #wireless  if there is such.
[07:55] <lego> or be back later.
[07:55] <ForgeAus> (note beryl was originally a fork of compiz and they're supposedly in the process of re-merging)
[07:55] <Druntar> instalkins sorry locking up alont
[07:55] <intelikey> lego   all that without a disk...    some one hand him to me....
[07:56] <BellaireLinuxN3r> LOL
[07:57] <mehmet> intelikey:  Thank musch soo muchhh :)
[07:57] <lego> Her is my plan.  Maybe y'all can tell me how bad it is.
[07:57] <Alonea> i wonder if it was wise to make ark create a tar.bz of a 50gig folder...
[07:57] <Snowman> intelikey: thanks for the suggestions.  currently lurking in #kde and #wireless as well.
[07:58] <lego> I made a Windows 98 vmware image and saved to CD.  I want to run vmplayer and run the 98  image.
[07:58] <lego> So I can run my old Windows stuff.
[07:58] <intelikey> if anyone hands you to me,  i'm gonna spank you.
[07:58] <Snowman> why not use wine?
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> Snowman, wine is very...glitchy...
[07:59] <intelikey> :)
[07:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> b/c snowman, wine can't run some windows programs like PS
[07:59] <lego> I don't know much on wine, but I know my stuff works great in vmware.
[07:59] <Snowman> alonea: depends on if your definition of "wise" is "horrendously time consuming"
[07:59] <ForgeAus> glitchy? hmmm one way to put it
[07:59] <Snowman> BellaireLinuxN3r: true.
[07:59] <ForgeAus> yeah vmware works well mostly
[07:59] <Alonea> indeed...I can't get really anything to run i wine except for solitaire, hearts, freecell, spider solitaire, etc.
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> best i could come up with
[08:00] <Snowman> hitmanWilly: I've had great luck with it for the apps I've tried.  mostly security panel programming apps, though.
[08:00] <ForgeAus> I can
[08:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> I think wine's for small windows apps
[08:00] <ForgeAus> I got ie6 running on it and mirc
[08:00] <Alonea> ForgeAus: how did you get ie6 to run?! I was trying a couple days ago with NO success.
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> it works about 50/50 for me
[08:00] <intelikey> BellaireLinuxN3r yeah.   i installed a game in it one time....   to slow on this hardware.
[08:01] <icecruncher> !worksforme
[08:01] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:01] <Snowman> wine here works for: dls 2002 (dsc alarm panel prog. app), googletalk, heroes of might and magic II (don't laugh, it's a time killer for at work), and a couple of little homebrew mfc apps.
[08:01] <intelikey> i guess you need more than 350 horse power to do that.
[08:02] <Alonea> ForgeAus: my problem is it does that thing when it asks you to restart the application and try installing again.
[08:03] <Alonea> umm, how long should it take to compress a 50 gig folder in a .tar.bz?
[08:04] <BellaireLinuxN3r> alonea: go take a nap, watch some TV, excersise, maybe go shopping
[08:05] <Snowman> shopping in another country, and by exercise we mean a 2 week trek through the andes.
[08:05] <ForgeAus> Alonea, you can simulate a reboot if thats what you mean
[08:05] <Alonea> BellaireLinuxN3r: shopping....I wish. lack money and well, methinks all the stores are closed at 1:05 in the morning.
[08:06] <Alonea> ForgeAus: umm, well, what I mean is, I can't get IE6 to install....
[08:06] <ForgeAus> theres some site, ies4linux I think its called
[08:06] <ForgeAus> also cxoffice (nonfree) has cozy gui to install it...
[08:06] <ForgeAus> (cxoffice is just a wine with extras)
[08:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> alonea: lol, we're in the same timezone even lol
[08:07] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[08:07] <ubuntu> i need help
[08:07] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I already have that. I need 1e6 installed in wine so I can try installing another program that looks for it. I tried to do the regedit thing where you can try fooling the apps, but no one would tell me which dlls to copy over to where, and the page didn't say which, just that I needed to.
[08:07] <icecruncher> hi
[08:07] <intelikey>  /dev/hda is entire device, not just one partition!
[08:07] <intelikey> Proceed anyway? (y,n) y
[08:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu: doesn't everybody? lol
[08:07] <ubuntu> after i installed linux i firmatted my c drive and installed windows
[08:07] <icecruncher> and
[08:07] <Alonea> BellaireLinuxN3r: dear ole central. God it is hot today...stupid west texas.
[08:08] <ubuntu> now i cant boot linux
[08:08] <BellaireLinuxN3r> alonea: oh wow, i'm in Houston lolz
[08:08] <hitmanWilly> !grub | ubuntu
[08:08] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:08] <ubuntu> is there a way 2 just install the boot loader
[08:08] <Alonea> BellaireLinuxN3r: ooo...bad humidity I hear.
[08:08] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu: that's actually uh, normal
[08:08] <ForgeAus> ies6linux should install ie6 for you
[08:08] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu: you need to reinstall grub over NTLDR
[08:08] <intelikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   <<< ubuntu
[08:08] <ForgeAus> you need dcop, msfonts, and some other bits before ie6 will work
[08:08] <icecruncher> !dualboot
[08:08] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:09] <ubuntu> how do i do that
[08:09] <intelikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   <<< ubuntu
[08:09] <ForgeAus> bit IT DOES function... at least in my experience
[08:09] <BellaireLinuxN3r> alonea: yeah, nasty weather here in Houston
[08:09] <Alonea> ForgeAus: it will install it in the wine virtual computer thing?
[08:09] <ubuntu> this is my 1st time using linux
[08:09] <ForgeAus> it even validates with microsoft as a genuine windows!!!!
[08:09] <icecruncher> ubuntu, follow the post by intelikey
[08:09] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I could care less really if it works. I just want to try to install MusicMatch...
[08:09] <ForgeAus> alonea yes
[08:09] <ubuntu> ok
[08:10] <ubuntu> thanx
[08:10] <ForgeAus> (at least the ie6 part does, I think the script leading up to it doesn't)
[08:10] <ForgeAus> hehe the jukebox! nice
[08:10] <ForgeAus> I have no idea if that works in wine or not
[08:10] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I have On Demand service.
[08:11] <Alonea> ForgeAus: where is this ies6linux. google only came up with russian sites.
[08:11] <ForgeAus> 4 not 6...
[08:12] <Alonea> ForgeAus: ok, well, I already have ies4linux, and that doesn't do anything for wine. it is separate. so what is this thing that validates windows and everything?
[08:12] <intelikey> 4!6
[08:12] <ForgeAus> yes intelikey for C fans anyway
[08:12] <ForgeAus> did you run ies4linux? did that not work?
[08:13] <ForgeAus> and yes you run it from a console prompt...
[08:13] <ForgeAus> (rather than from within wine, but it installs ie6 itself from within wine)
[08:13] <intelikey> oh was i speaking C ????   thought it was bash ...
[08:13] <ForgeAus> possibly...
[08:13] <Alonea> ForgeAus: yes it works, but it is separate from wine. like, completely.
[08:13] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about bash scripting
[08:14] <intelikey> :)
[08:14] <ForgeAus> um no its not, it uses wine to make ie6
[08:14] <intelikey> or that would have to be in a    case blah in ; :) ;; esac   wouldn't it...
[08:14] <ForgeAus> (you mean its like a separate instance of wine's windows that it uses?)
[08:14] <Alonea> intelikey: ok. in GParted, how would I partition it without loosing information?
[08:15] <intelikey> Alonea you resize the existing.   and make new from the free space
[08:15] <Alonea> ForgeAus: well, in the ie4linux folder there is some made up windows folders. and in the wine folder there is also the windows folders. but they are completely separate
[08:15] <ForgeAus> hmmm might have changed since I did it last
[08:16] <ForgeAus> weird
[08:16] <ForgeAus> I was able to integrate it with my wine... but anyway if it did function why can't you install musicmatch from within that "bottle" (as cxoffice calls them)
[08:17] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I am lost. how would I install an app in ie4linux?
[08:17] <intelikey> bottles and jars       what does osx use  cans and buckets
[08:18] <ForgeAus> hehe
[08:18] <intelikey> linux uses lots of chains links and loops
[08:18] <ForgeAus> jars are java archives aren't they?
[08:18] <intelikey> yea
[08:18] <ForgeAus> they're also used by windows (and I assume osx)
[08:18] <Alonea> intelikey: speaking of osx, thats what is going on the partition. ^__^
[08:18] <intelikey> oh i'm sorry
[08:18] <intelikey> :)
[08:18] <ForgeAus> heeh nice
[08:19] <ForgeAus> osx!
[08:19] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I do waaaay entirely too many things to be able to be satisfied with one OS.
[08:19] <ForgeAus> yeah windows uses links... not so many chains that I'm aware of ... loops are more  aprogramming thing afaik
[08:19] <ForgeAus> Alonea, ditto
[08:20] <lego> Does Linux have a way to run ISO files as CD's?
[08:20] <ForgeAus> do you have a powerpc or just regular x86?
[08:20] <ForgeAus> lego you can mount iso's
[08:20] <intelikey> mount file.img -o loop dir/
[08:20] <ForgeAus> if thats what you mean
[08:20] <lego> Thank you.
[08:20] <intelikey> for this in that do loop done
[08:20] <Alonea> ForgeAus: this computer was originally a pc, plan on making it have linux, windows, and osx
[08:21] <Snowman> lego: iirc you can use mount to view them as if they were burned and in a drive.
[08:21] <ForgeAus> yeah that kinda thing
[08:21] <ForgeAus> very loopy
[08:21] <ForgeAus> you do know osx for x86 is illegal
[08:21] <ForgeAus> (macintosh actually has a clause that MacOS and/or OSX may only legally run on macintosh hardware)
[08:22] <ForgeAus> (that being said I find rhapsody interesting theres an ix86 version of that)
[08:22] <rohan> can someone please tell me why this error is occuring ? http://rafb.net/p/I09FKq79.html
[08:23] <ForgeAus> I doubt it has such a clause, but I'm not certain how to obtain rhapsody legally and it has little software support... (its basically an Openstep++)
[08:23] <kalorin`> rohan: it looks very much like a corrupt .deb file
[08:23] <rohan> kalorin`: oh .. i'll try re-downloading it
[08:24] <ForgeAus> Haiku is also interesting its basically an (open-sourced?) BeOS clone
[08:24] <kalorin`> nighty
[08:24] <ForgeAus> whilst in a similar vein AROS is an AmigaOS clone for x86 (being an acronym for Amiga Research Operating System)
[08:24] <ThomasZ> The  alsaconf application seems to have been removed from kubuntu;  what replaces it?
[08:24] <ForgeAus> but I don't think it runs amiga binaries
[08:25] <ForgeAus> (the API is compatible, however)
[08:25] <snake_> hi
[08:25] <icecruncher> hi
[08:26] <DaSkreech> lo
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Damn
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Best two out of three?
[08:26] <ubuntu> hey
[08:26] <DaSkreech> hay
[08:26] <ubuntu> i have tried the link u gave me and i followed the steps but it didnt work
[08:26] <snake_> does anyone know something like imesh or bearshare for ubuntu ?
[08:26] <snake_> to download music
[08:27] <icecruncher> !grub | ubuntu
[08:27] <BellaireLinuxN3r> snake_: frostwire?
[08:27] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:27] <DaSkreech> snake_: try magnatune. It comes with Amarok
[08:27] <ubuntu> i use kubuntu is it the same
[08:27] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[08:27] <snake_> i find it in amarok home page
[08:27] <DaSkreech> snake_: As a warning we don't tolerate Piracy here
[08:28] <DaSkreech> snake_: open amarok. It's the tab on the left at the bottom
[08:28] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu: use the same commands that the page gives you
[08:28] <intelikey> hmmm i'm pretty sure something short cycled on this initrd.img its only 29307 bytes
[08:28] <snake_> ah ok
[08:28] <ForgeAus> p2p? ... mldonkey is kewl
[08:28] <snake_> thank you all
[08:29] <ThomasZ> Alsa found the wrong audio card (forgot to load the module).  How do I tell alsa to search again?
[08:29] <firecrotch> Can someone do me a quick favor?
[08:29] <ForgeAus> its sorta like shareaza for linux! (although I think there may even be an mldonkey for windows?)
[08:29] <|lostbyte|> lol
[08:29] <DaSkreech> There you go
[08:29] <intelikey> ubuntu yes kubuntu is ubuntu until you get to the wm/de
[08:29] <firecrotch> DaSkreech: Thanks !
[08:30] <DaSkreech> No problem hopefully someone would do the same for me before uploading to youtube
[08:30] <Alonea> ForgeAus: Ok, I tried installing ies4linux again and it still appears to be separate.
[08:30] <ForgeAus> alonea can you run wine and ie from within wine?
[08:30] <firecrotch> But seriously... Can someone run "dig -x 209.190.24.74" for me and tell me what the answer section says?
[08:31] <ubuntu> thanx i'll try 2 reboot now
[08:31] <dhorn> Is anyone familiar with ctrl-z in konsole?
[08:31] <Alonea> umm. command? wine ???
[08:31] <ForgeAus> (that is to say can you run the wine installation that has ie installed into it separately?)
[08:31] <ForgeAus> um... genreally wine <insert appname here> (try notepad.exe or something)
[08:32] <Alonea> ForgeAus: oh, are you asking if wine works? yeah. it does.
[08:32] <intelikey> ForgeAus & Alonea full path.    wine ~/ie4linux/blah.exe
[08:32] <ForgeAus> not necessarily if wine works, if wine that can run ie6 works
[08:33] <ForgeAus> if so you can attempt to install musicmatch from there...
[08:33] <freeflyer> can anyone tell me a good server program to get for kubuntu
[08:33] <ForgeAus> (just run the setup program like any other under wine)
[08:33] <Alonea> ForgeAus: umm, you mean ie4linux? if the IE6 in that works?
[08:34] <firecrotch> freeflyer: Apache?
[08:34] <ForgeAus> Alonea NO...
[08:34] <ForgeAus> you may have multiple wine erm "trees" I'll call them
[08:34] <rohan> kalorin`: this the same .deb i used to install before. i don't really think it can get corrupted since
[08:34] <rohan> kalorin`: however, i tried reinstalling it just because mplayer cann
[08:34] <icecruncher> firecrotch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19221/
[08:34] <Alonea> ForgeAus: because currently there IS no actualy regular ie6 in wine...
[08:34] <ForgeAus> ie two different windows directories installed (but only one wine program)
[08:34] <firecrotch> icecruncher: Thank you very much
[08:35] <icecruncher> firecrotch, why can't you run it?
[08:35] <rohan> however, i tried reinstalling it just because mplayer cannot play the video in a .rm file - it can play the audio. is it a known problem with the w32codecs package of medibuntu ?
[08:35] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I even tried copying over the windows files for ie in ie4 to wine and that did not work...probably needs reg keys or something like that. or i am missing files
[08:35] <firecrotch> icecruncher:  I can, but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't getting a cached answer from something
[08:35] <icecruncher> ahh
[08:36] <ForgeAus> alonea, you basically only need the stuff ies4linux installs in the script
[08:36] <ForgeAus> like cabextract, msfonts, dcom...
[08:36] <ForgeAus> and ie6 should work
[08:37] <intelikey> ok guys.  you're glad i was here but you really wont miss me.    later
[08:37] <ForgeAus> http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html ??
[08:38] <Alonea> ForgeAus: ok, starting over on ie4linux. Show I change to default directory to .wine?
[08:39] <ForgeAus> basically it says what I said
[08:39] <ForgeAus> get dcom98 and ie6setup
[08:39] <ForgeAus> and install that in wine and you don't even need ies4linux
[08:40] <Topclass> anyone know anything about getting a logitech mx1000 mouse working with the forward and back buttons? tried some advice from sites but always kill x
[08:40] <ForgeAus> (note you require cabextract and the microsoft fonts which are available as linux pacakges)... obviously you already have wine
[08:40] <wiegraf77> hellow
[08:40] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I already have those files...
[08:40] <wiegraf77> good afternoo
[08:40] <icecruncher> how can I fing out what version of gtk I'm running?
[08:40] <ForgeAus> hehe helloW???
[08:41] <wiegraf77> ia
[08:41] <ForgeAus> ok they're installed? then install ie6setup from within wine
[08:41] <ForgeAus> (erm sorry dcom98 first then ie6setup)
[08:41] <wiegraf77> what is going now in here
[08:42] <Alonea> ForgeAus: and I tried to install ie6 before, but it would not install. thats why i asked you. you said you had it installed. wanted to know how. installed dcom98 aaaages ago too. also. in those instructions. that config files does not exist foe me...
[08:42] <ForgeAus> Alonea, musta done something wrong then
[08:43] <ForgeAus> I've never had it not install (I've had it not run, due to gecko issues)
[08:43] <frojnd> hello there, I've installed XP after kubuntu and now I don't see kubuntu at the start of boot to choose.. how can I get my kubuntu back :)
[08:43] <firecrotch> !mbr | frojnd
[08:43] <ubotu> frojnd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:43] <ForgeAus> !grub
[08:43] <Alonea> ForgeAus: it starts to install, but the installer tells me something like I need to restart the installer...
[08:44] <firecrotch> ForgeAus: I win :P
[08:44] <wiegraf77> forgot ie6.... now.. only think in firefox or konqueror...
[08:44] <ForgeAus> lol fc :)
[08:44] <icecruncher> wiegraf77  :)
[08:44] <ForgeAus> hmm but why install ff in wine?
[08:45] <Alonea> wiegraf77: I dont need ie6 to use..I need it so another program in wine can install
[08:45] <ForgeAus> wie he wants to install musicmatch jukebox that requires ie6
[08:45] <icecruncher> Alonea, have u tried another program, or do u really ned this one?
[08:45] <ForgeAus> alonea, I don't think I can help you... all you shoul dneed to do if it asks to reset is simulate a reset
[08:46] <ForgeAus> but your saying restart the installer?... whats going to stop it from doing the same thing again?
[08:46] <Alonea> icecruncher: I need the program for a service it has that my dad pays for.
[08:46] <icecruncher> lol
[08:46] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I need to get the exact error and tell you...i dont remember the exact
[08:46] <ForgeAus> perhaps theres an issue with native dll's vs wine dll's?
[08:46] <ForgeAus> the ones you need are listed : http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html
[08:48] <Alonea> ForgeAus: should I install IE6 in win98 more of XP?
[08:48] <ForgeAus> Alonea, either, probably more apt to use 98...
[08:49] <Alonea> ForgeAus: ok, in 98 I get a different error. It says it cant connect to internet to download files
[08:50] <ForgeAus> hmm can konqueror connect?
[08:50] <Alonea> ForgeAus: umm...it should. lemme check. I mean. I am talking to you right now
[08:51] <ForgeAus> Alonea, I agree... also I don't think I can help you with the cannot connect issue, um perhaps winehq.com will help?
[08:51] <ForgeAus> if not #winehq
[08:52] <Alonea> ForgeAus: I asked them and they said wine isn't even supposed to install IE6 and they dont support it
[08:52] <ForgeAus> lol
[08:52] <ForgeAus> how user-friendly uh?
[08:52] <TheDebugger> Anyone got the problem with amarok where the track name at the bottom left is displayed as html?
[08:52] <ForgeAus> very un-windows-like of them
[08:53] <wiegraf77>  forgot ie6.... now.. only think in firefox or konqueror... [2] 
[08:53] <Alonea> ForgeAus: and this is after pointing out that on their APDB it says it will
[08:53] <Topclass> anyone know how to force firsefox to open fullscreen? for some reason its been opeing only on the left half of the screen?
[08:53] <ForgeAus> wie, we read you the first time
[08:53] <ForgeAus> topclass? that sounds strange...
[08:53] <Alonea> wiegraf77: indeed, we did read you.
[08:53] <ForgeAus> maybe try different screenres in xrandr?
[08:53] <Topclass> indeed. its doing my head in
[08:53] <iarwain> hiya, anyone know if it is possible to import swf into a presentation (openoffice - impress)
[08:54] <ForgeAus> (read man xrandr if you don't know how to use it)
[08:54] <TheDebugger> Anyone can help for my amarok problem?
[08:54] <Topclass> cheers will look into that later
[08:56] <cntb> confused
[08:56] <Alonea> ForgeAus: bah..i give. gonna attempt to install Mac OSX instead. I must create myself another headache.
[08:57] <cntb> konqueror find files folders cannot find existing files
[08:59] <icecruncher> cntb say again
[09:00] <jlilly> Alonea: You're trying to install OS X in Kubuntu?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> HI Alonea
[09:06] <Geggele> Hallo kann mir mal jemand sagen weil mein suse abgestrtzt ist wie ich auf meine platten wieder zugreifen kann will da was sichern und brennen und dann platt machen
[09:06] <jlilly> TheDebugger: Amarok problem? Oh, and don't ask to ask.
[09:07] <iarwain> hiya, anyone know if it is possible to import swf into a presentation (openoffice - impress)
[09:07] <tarelerulz> How would I update to Ubuntu 7.04  with adept?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> !de
[09:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Geggele: Suse?
[09:08] <iarwain> tarelerulz: change all instances of edgy to feisty in your sources.list
[09:08] <DaSkreech> jlilly: Didn't TheDebuggerasked about Amarok showing the artist - title as HTML
[09:08] <frojnd> how can I figure it out on which partition is installed linux root i mean, and how big is this partition - in MB? this is my fdisk and df - h output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19227/
[09:09] <jlilly> DaSkreech: I don't believe so.. at least I didn't see it.
[09:09] <DaSkreech> [01:53]  <TheDebugger> Anyone got the problem with amarok where the track name at the bottom left is displayed as html?
[09:09] <jlilly> and that was danish, I believe.
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Ha
[09:09] <jlilly> ahhh.
[09:09] <jlilly> I saw [02:54]  <TheDebugger> Anyone can help for my amarok problem?
[09:10] <jlilly> hrm. on second look, I think it IS german.
[09:10] <Alonea> DaSkreech: allo dear.
[09:10] <jlilly> Its entirely too late :(
[09:10] <jlilly> [03:00]  <jlilly> Alonea: You're trying to install OS X in Kubuntu?
[09:11] <Alonea> jlilly: sorry. I was away for a minute. yes and no. Vmware.
[09:11] <DaSkreech> firecrotch is out!
[09:11] <tarelerulz> Well, I had notthing ,but troble with the verions of kubuntu I have  and  ubuntu 7.04 is great
[09:11] <Alonea> jlilly: I have a nice how to.
[09:11] <jlilly> Alonea: link? I _NEED_ Textmate. (requires 10.4.3, I think)
[09:11] <TheDebugger> 7.04 is really great :D
[09:12] <jlilly> I bought a license then my mac broke and I didn't have the $ to repair so *shrug*, but I would like to try it.
[09:12] <jlilly> TheDebugger: Agreed!
[09:12] <Alonea> jlilly: umm. not sure on link. I printed out the instructions. Lemme see if its in my history
[09:12] <rohan> tarelerulz: yes, ubuntu is easier for new users, as compared to kubuntu
[09:12] <jlilly> Alonea: maybe printed at the bottom or top of the document?
[09:13] <Alonea> jlilly: no, I put text in open office and reduced text size
[09:13] <tarelerulz> Well, the fact something don't seem to work for me. That is what  I don't like
[09:13] <jlilly> bah!
[09:13] <rohan> tarelerulz: what isn't working for you /
[09:13] <tarelerulz> I have beryle working and ntfs and so on
[09:13] <Geggele> DaSkreech yes  i cant  mount my partition in suse
[09:13] <tarelerulz> I can't get fireforx working .
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Geggele: do you get an error?
[09:14] <DaSkreech> tarelerulz: Praise the lord and move on :)
[09:14] <tarelerulz> Iti is more then that
[09:14] <Alonea> jlilly: I dunno what the link is. It was a wiki page maybe. starts off wiht Step 1 - Purchase/Download and install VMware
[09:14] <tarelerulz> And ark broke out of the blue
[09:15] <Alonea> jlilly: it takes a bit of work and it isn't guaranteed to work for all
[09:15] <tarelerulz> and plus I don't have a working cd drive so I can't upgrade my computer wiht cd
[09:15] <jlilly> for those who are curious: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to
[09:16] <Alonea> jlilly: ok. thats the page
[09:18] <tarelerulz> I don't want to sound dumb ,but do they kubuntu verion of ubuntu 7.04?
[09:18] <jlilly>  Alonea: mind if I pm you?
[09:18] <Druntar> ok still no go
[09:18] <jlilly> tarelerulz: yes. there is a kubuntu 7.04
[09:18] <Alonea> jlilly: go ahead
[09:18] <Druntar> this thing's been installing for 2 hours and hasn't passed 64%
[09:19] <rohan> Druntar: kubuntu ?
[09:19] <Druntar> yeah
[09:19] <Italy> Hi
[09:19] <tarelerulz> Like I said I don't have working cd rom drive so adept is my only way
[09:19] <Druntar> I started it over two hours ago
[09:19] <Italy> I'm looking for anyone that cn help me
[09:19] <Druntar> started from a live cd
[09:19] <rohan> Druntar: you can cancel it, and run it again in a console, and check to see if any error mesages are displayed ?
[09:19] <Druntar> go to coping files
[09:20] <Druntar> copying files and froze at 64%
[09:20] <rohan> tarelerulz: what do you want to do ? update your edgy install ?
[09:20] <rohan> Druntar: well, is the cd burnt correctly ? did you verify the md5sum ?
[09:21] <tarelerulz> I woul.d like to upgrede to Kubuntu 7.04
[09:21] <tarelerulz> with adept
[09:21] <jikanter> tarelerulz: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:21] <rohan> tarelerulz: yes
[09:22] <rohan> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:22] <rohan> use aptitude, i've found it to be better at resolving dependency problems
[09:22] <tarelerulz> rohan thanks . That is going ot help me alot
[09:22] <rohan> tarelerulz: the instructions on the wiki did not work ?
[09:22] <jikanter> Hey Admiral Chicago! Your up awfully late...
[09:23] <rohan> tarelerulz: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php#upgrade
[09:24] <tarelerulz> I am going to say this I DON'T HAVE A WORKING CD ROM DRIVE
[09:25] <rohan> tarelerulz: so ? the instructions are for online upgrade
[09:25] <rohan> tarelerulz: those are the ones you'd rather follow
[09:26] <don_jr__> I have created a win98 startup cd, when I boot the machine that's running kubuntu right now, it won't boot from the cd, is this something to do with kubuntu installed or is it the machine?
[09:26] <icecruncher> don_jr__: no
[09:26] <don_jr__> icecruncher no what? it's not kubuntu? so it's a problem with the machine then?  thanks
[09:26] <tarelerulz> It is not rether I would or not . I don't have a working cd rom drive at all.
[09:27] <tarelerulz> it is the only way I can upgrade
[09:27] <icecruncher> don_jr__: I'd say it's the cd if you cant boot
[09:27] <Druntar> ok getting irritated
[09:27] <don_jr__> icecruncher okay....gotta fingure out how to make the cd bootable then...my laptop here doesn't have a floppy drive, only CD  thanks
[09:29] <Druntar> running kubuntu 7.04 from live cd finally got the install past the first screen. Then it locked at 64% of copying files. Someone said something about running it from a command line?
[09:29] <icecruncher> Druntar: with
[09:29] <icecruncher> srry
[09:29] <don_jr__> Druntar I had the same problem, had to download the alternate install cd
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[09:30] <Druntar> 3 more hours in winsuck hell
[09:30] <davis_> is there an easy way to mount a samba share to my desktop?
[09:30] <Druntar> any other suggestions folks before I go waste more of my time?
[09:30] <icecruncher> Druntar, no
[09:31] <Druntar> don_jr_: the alternate cd did work for you right?
[09:31] <don_jr__> Druntar yes, multiple times it's worked great on 3 different machines I have here at the house.
[09:32] <Druntar> hmmm wonder what the difference is
[09:32] <Druntar> ok well thanks guys
[09:34] <comodo> can someone help me i need to add higher screen resolution
[09:34] <Roadrunner343> hello everyone. I'm trying to install Feisty from the live CD's but Im not quite sure how to do so. I can't seem to log in. Any help? And yes, I know, I am a newbie please dont yell at me.
[09:35] <comodo> the highest screen resolution available in system settings is 1024x768
[09:35] <Roadrunner343> I boot to the CD and everything and hit F1 to Install/Run Kubuntu but that just takes me to the log in screen (Running from the cd) and I dont know how to log in so I can install the OS and set it up and everything
[09:36] <icecruncher> comodo: get the correct drivers foor yur graphics card
[09:36] <comodo> i have them
[09:36] <icecruncher> u shure?
[09:36] <Roadrunner343> anyone know how to install from the live CD?
[09:36] <comodo> pretty sure
[09:36] <comodo> how can i see if its the correct driver
[09:36] <davis_> hey any tips on mounting a samba share to my desktop? like from a windows comp to kubuntu
[09:37] <davis_> I can see the samba shares but I want to make it a folder on my desktop
[09:37] <icecruncher> comodo: just a sec
[09:37] <oxydon> hey
[09:37] <jussi01> !fstab | davis_
[09:37] <ubotu> davis_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:38] <Roadrunner343> could some one help me with installing kubuntu from the Live CD?
[09:38] <jussi01> Roadrunner343: click the install button?
[09:38] <oxydon> does anyone know how could i convert a ntfs partition 2 fat or could i just write on ntfs through linux
[09:38] <jussi01> oxydon: are you wanting to preserve your data?
[09:38] <davis_> thanks
[09:38] <oxydon> jussi01: yes
[09:39] <jussi01> best to write to ntfs then...
[09:39] <oxydon> ok
[09:39] <Druntar> ok want to cry
[09:39] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | oxydon
[09:39] <ubotu> oxydon: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:39] <oxydon> everytime i try it denies
[09:39] <oxydon> thanx man
[09:39] <Druntar> tried to reboot into windows to download the alternate cd
[09:39] <Roadrunner343> Jussi01: THats not it. Its the live CD. I hit "Install/Run Kubuntu" and it opens up the login screen.From there I can't log in because I dont have any accounts set up or anything... Im not quite sure what to do
[09:39] <icecruncher> comodo: under system settings you hit the monitor and display and there under hardware you shold be able to configure your graphics card as admin
[09:40] <Roadrunner343> it gave some error too but I cant rememebr what it was...I can do it again to find out if I must. I just dont know how to log in so I can install Kubuntu permanently.
[09:40] <Druntar> now it says missing operating system
[09:40] <jussi01> Roadrunner343: is there a safemode or something in that first list?
[09:40] <comodo> yea how do i open system settings as root?
[09:41] <jussi01> Druntar: what did you do?
[09:41] <Roadrunner343> Jussi01: I believe so. Should I boot to that?
[09:41] <oxydon> jussi01: i use kubuntu
[09:41] <icecruncher> there is a button at the bottom sayin administrator or something like that
[09:41] <jussi01> Roadrunner343: yes
[09:41] <jussi01> oxydon: its the same in both envirnments
[09:41] <Roadrunner343> Because I am trying to run the live cd so I can install it permanently. I used Kubuntu before (Edgy) but I just installed straight from the CD (It wasnt a live cd)
[09:41] <Roadrunner343> then what? Do I need to know anything to log in or anything like that?
[09:41] <hivemind> Hello there gentlemen. I just got Feisty installed and I have only one task left. Configure whichever applications to start-up on login. Any advice?
[09:42] <Druntar> I resized my vista install then tried to install kubuntu it froze at 64% of copying files. I was told I needed the alternate install cd. So I shut down so I could get back on my vista install to download and burn said cd.
[09:42] <lego> How unsafe is it to be downloading 6 files at the same time?
[09:42] <jussi01> Roadrunner343: do you have limited bandwidth?
[09:42] <lego> I am having a problem with kubuntu so I wanted to get Suse.
[09:43] <Roadrunner343> jussi01: Yeah... At the moment I do. I had a friend download the CD for me.
[09:43] <lego> I was trying to run vmware player and I can't get it to use a cdrom drive.
[09:44] <Druntar> ok how do I run the install from the live cd in a terminal so I can catch the error when it happens?
[09:44] <icecruncher> hivemind, could you explain a bit more pls
[09:44] <lego> Also it gives errors on sound.
[09:44] <jussi01> oh... well if you can, Id get a copy of the alternate cd
[09:44] <icecruncher> Druntar: try in safe mode boot
[09:44] <Druntar> there is no boot except from live cd
[09:44] <Roadrunner343> ok... ill try that. But in case I cant, how do I log into the live cd?
[09:44] <Druntar> or do you mean try running install from safe mode?
[09:44] <jussi01> Druntar: yeah, the safe boot from the cd
[09:44] <lego> Anyone use vmware player?
[09:44] <Druntar> oh ok
[09:44] <hivemind> icecruncher, Well. Lets say I want Xchat to start automatically when I login. How would I set that up?
[09:45] <jussi01> lego:  /join #vmware
[09:45] <lego> Okay.  Thank you.
[09:45] <icecruncher> hivemind, ahh make a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:46] <hivemind> icecruncher, Thank you!
[09:46] <icecruncher> np
[09:46] <jussi01> hivemind: you know konversation is much nicer in kde than xchat....
[09:46] <Roadrunner343> alrighty, well thanks for all your help. I might be back shortly =D
[09:47] <carlos|t41> but konversation doesn't support transparency :-[
[09:47] <kasdaye> Well.
[09:47] <hivemind> It does seem nice.
[09:47] <kasdaye> I guess I'll use this instead : /
[09:49] <lego> Good night all.
[09:49] <jussi01> night lego
[09:49] <icecruncher> night
[09:49] <carlos|t41> night
[09:51] <hivemind> There we go =D
[09:52] <icecruncher> lol
[09:52] <comodo> hey man thanks for the help worked perfect
[09:52] <comodo> man i used ubuntu before this and it was way more difficult to get the screen resolution working good
[09:53] <icecruncher> np
[09:53] <comodo> and beryl is easy also
[09:54] <Alonea> ok, I am using vmware and it wants me to say whether me hard disk is ide or scsi. What would my External Hdd be?
[09:54] <comodo> what are you runing ice
[09:54] <icecruncher> Alonea: I'd try scsi, but not sure about it
[09:54] <binks_> *binks wishes he was in a warmer counry
[09:54] <icecruncher> comodo: Pentium 2 33Mhz wth 192 mb ram
[09:55] <Alonea> icecruncher: well, when I plug it into ubuntu it said sda.
[09:55] <binks_> beryl is still a little buggy in kubuntu
[09:55] <icecruncher> make that 333Mhz
[09:55] <comodo> damn
[09:55] <comodo> never updated?
[09:55] <Alonea> icecruncher: anyway to check for sure?
[09:56] <oxydon> jussi01: in the documentation it tells me to go to application system tools but i cant find such a path
[09:56] <carlos|t41> a
[09:56] <carlos|t41> Alonea: i would go for scsi
[09:56] <binks_> i justed berly up and lost the icons in my taskbar oooops
[09:56] <binks_> ^started
[09:56] <Alonea> carlos|t41: ok. will change it to scsi then
[09:56] <icecruncher> Alonea: dunno sorry
[09:56] <oxydon> jussi01: excuse me but its my 1st time using linux
[09:57] <comodo> yea i installed and started running beryl but my bar on top of windows that have minimize restore and close buttons is gone ?
[09:57] <oxydon> hey everyone
[09:58] <binks_> oxydon: hey
[09:58] <oxydon> i use kubuntu and i installed the ntfs 3g i dont know how  2 use it
[09:58] <binks_> !ntfs
[09:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:59] <oxydon> uboto:  i can view it but i want 2 write on it
[09:59] <comodo> some guy told me the easyest way to use ntfs-3g was ntfs-3g-config or somthing suposed to be a gui for ntfs-3g
[09:59] <oxydon> uboto: i just  cant find the program i installed
[09:59] <icecruncher> !ntsf-3g | oxydon
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntsf-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <binks_> oxydon: uboto is a bot
[10:00] <icecruncher>  !ntfs-3g | oxydon
[10:00] <ubotu> oxydon: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:00] <binks_> ^^^ it tells you there how to write
[10:00] <oxydon> i know it tells me to go to applications
[10:01] <oxydon> and i dont know where is the applications to go to system tools afterwards
[10:02] <binks_> oxydon: you on kubuntu
[10:02] <oxydon> yes
[10:02] <tarelerulz> Have any of you had problems upgreding form 6.10 to 7.04?
[10:03] <binks_> go to a terminal and type :  sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[10:03] <binks_> tarelerulz: no i find 7.04 miles better
[10:03] <Alonea> Also, on SCSI adapter tpyes, whats the difference between BusLogic and LSI Logic?
[10:05] <binks_> oxydon:  did you type the cmd yet
[10:05] <oxydon> yes
[10:05] <binks_> and did it install
[10:05] <oxydon> but it didnt work it says: couldn't find package ntfs-config
[10:05] <tarelerulz> I am trying to get 7.04 and I had errors
[10:05] <tarelerulz> I did not read it
[10:05] <tarelerulz> I will clear some space
[10:06] <tarelerulz> last time I did somthhing like this I need spece
[10:06] <oxydon> binks: what do u think
[10:06] <binks_> did you tell apt to use Enable the universe repository
[10:06] <tarelerulz> 7.04 on my computer is the best Ubuntu I have every used.
[10:06] <binks_> !repos
[10:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:06] <oxydon> i dont think so
[10:06] <binks_> oxydon: | !repos
[10:07] <binks_> !repos | oxydon
[10:07] <ubotu> oxydon: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:07] <oxydon> ok
[10:07] <binks_> oxydon: enable universe the try install the driver again
[10:09] <icecruncher> anyone know if kde 4 will be in gutsy?
[10:10] <binks_> icecruncher: think you need to ask in ubuntu+1
[10:10] <binks_> thats the dev chan for next release
[10:10] <icecruncher> lol
[10:11] <comodo> anyone know the best p2p program for kubuntu
[10:13] <kraut> moin
[10:13] <tarelerulz> any of you done update to 7.04 with adept for Kubuntu 6.10?
[10:14] <binks_> comodo: what protocol do you mean itorrent e-mule limewire newsservers
[10:14] <binks_> tarelerulz: i already sais i did a while ago and it went fine
[10:14] <binks_> said^^
[10:14] <comodo> well i use ares at my friends house lately and its nice
[10:14] <comodo> i have no idea really
[10:15] <comodo> :D but ares is nice
[10:15] <haffi_> Is there any way to disable suspend/hibernate in KDE?
[10:15] <binks_> never heard of ares sorry
[10:16] <binks_> i use ktorrent / amule / klibido
[10:16] <msoeken> good morning, I have problems with installing libapach2-mod-php5 (http://rafb.net/p/poZxwc41.html)
[10:16] <ubuntu> hi all ... what can you recommend me as a good alternative to SKYPE?
[10:17] <dirk_> diego: what should it be able to do?
[10:17] <tarelerulz> my upgrade failed
[10:18] <binks_> tarelerulz: with what errors
[10:18] <tarelerulz> Failed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry
[10:18] <binks_> ok thats not a official repo thats why
[10:18] <binks_> comment it out then try again
[10:19] <diego299> i would like it to be capable of connecting to another client :) and free sms included would be also helpfull
[10:19] <tarelerulz> ok then
[10:19] <binks_> !skype
[10:19] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:20] <diego299> i know about skype but i dont like it :) ... and i am searching for something better and simplier
[10:21] <binks_> sorry i dont se it try goolge
[10:21] <binks_> ooops
[10:26] <binks_> diego299: look into kiax m8
[10:26] <binks_> http://www.kiax.org/
[10:27] <diego299> yeah i was searching for this
[10:27] <diego299> thx
[10:27] <diego299> thx very much
[10:27] <diego299> good bye for now
[10:29] <jussi01> diego299: also gizmo is a good option - www.gizmoproject.com
[10:31] <khoa114> hi, i'm new
[10:32] <khoa114> i has iust learn about linux
[10:32] <jussi01> !ask | khoa114
[10:32] <ubotu> khoa114: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:32] <khoa114> i'm testing konversation
[10:33] <khoa114> and i want to khown if it run correctly
[10:33] <amdiak> Hello
[10:33] <jussi01> khoa114: head to #ubuntuforums for general discussion :D
[10:33] <jussi01> !hi | amdiak
[10:33] <ubotu> amdiak: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:33] <jussi01> khoa114: it seems like it does
[10:33] <khoa114> i install Ubuntu in VMware and it don't regconized my USB
[10:34] <hivemind> Hey, how do I make a symlink which points to an application?
[10:34] <khoa114> What can i do to use my USB
[10:34] <amdiak> Thanks, I'm a french speaker but there's any one on Ubuntu-fr
[10:34] <hivemind> "ln -s konversation symlink_name_here"?
[10:34] <khoa114> In document Ubuntu can read USB
[10:35] <jussi01> hivemind: Im not sure on that, but did you know in kubuntu when you leave konversation or something running at shut down it starts at start up?
[10:35] <heinkel_111> khoa114: you just plug your USB in and use it?
[10:35] <jussi01> khoa114: /join #vmware
[10:36] <andrea> how i get the screenlets for kubuntu?
[10:36] <heinkel_111> it gets mounted automatically
[10:36] <jussi01> heinkel_111: he's in vmware...
[10:36] <heinkel_111> khoa114: ^and shows up as an icon on your desktop
[10:36] <heinkel_111> jussi01: ah...did not see that
[10:36] <hivemind> jussi01: Yeah, but what about amaroK and kmess?
[10:36] <amdiak> Can you help me UBOTU?
[10:37] <jussi01> hivemind: them also i think...
[10:37] <nixbox> hi all
[10:37] <hivemind> Heh.
[10:37] <jussi01> hi nixbox
[10:37] <hivemind> Why don't I give it a try, bbiab.
[10:37] <jussi01> lol
[10:37] <nixbox> is there a way to SSH into the live CD, i have a machine without the monitor, i have booted it using the live CD, how do i connect to it?
[10:38] <hivemind> Kickass. It all works.
[10:38] <jussi01> lol
[10:39] <jussi01> hivemind: out of curiosity, why kmess and not kopete?
[10:39] <hivemind> I like the kmess interface more.
[10:39] <jussi01> fair enough :D
[10:40] <hivemind> Okay. So you know when you have a couple programs spread over a couple desktops, but you can see all their toolbar icons?
[10:40] <hivemind> In gnome you only see the ones on the current desktop. Any way to get the same effect here?
[10:43] <jussi01> hivemind: i dont use different desktops...sorry...
[10:43] <Jucato> hivemind: right-click on the panel, Configure Panel -> Taskbar options
[10:45] <hivemind> Jucato: Thanks =D
[10:45] <hivemind> Well. That's ... everything.
[10:46] <hivemind> Now just to bring in the 20-odd GB of files from WinXP...
[10:46] <atidem> ciao
[10:46] <Cosmo_> after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?
[10:47] <Timsen> Hi all, can somebody give me an advice which WebCam is fully supported by dapper?
[10:48] <the-erm> Cosmo_: that's really weird problem... I'd say reboot, but that sounds like a windows solution.
[10:48] <the-erm> Cosmo_: you haven't done anything lately like unloading modules, or compiling a kernel have you?
[10:49] <Cosmo_> the-erm: that is the way I have been fixing it, was hoping foramorepermenant solution, nope haven't done any of that, and it's only after the system has been running awhile
[10:50] <the-erm> Timsen: It's been a while since I even thought about running a web cam, however if things are the same as they used to be ... video4lin.  If it works for the "video for linux" project, then it should be compatible.
[10:51] <the-erm> It's been years since I tried to run a web cam.
[10:51] <kostovnet> Hello everyone, I have a little problem with Feisty - it appears that Konqueror can't detect that I am online (firefox does), using KPPP to connect using GlobeTrotter 3G modem
[10:51] <jlilly> I've tried in beryl but to no avail... I need to know the default values for the burn setting in beryl. I broke mine and its ugly now :( :( :(
[10:52] <hivemind> jlilly: No default button?
[10:52] <the-erm> Cosmo_: what you could do is run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in your tty to see if it shows anything interesting when the problem occurs.
[10:52] <jlilly> hivemind: Not that I saw.. I 'll look a third time.
[10:53] <jlilly> hivemind: no such luck :-/
[10:58] <Timsen> okay thanks the-erm
[11:00] <the-erm> kostovnet: no freaking clue.  I looked in System Settings->Network Settings and nothing even used for ppp is there.
[11:01] <Angel-SL> !kubuntu
[11:01] <fdoving> kostovnet: do you have knetworkmanager running, in a disconnected state?
[11:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:01] <Angel-SL> !kubuntu-install
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <Angel-SL> !kde
[11:01] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[11:01] <jussi01> !botabuse > Angel-SL
[11:02] <jussi01> Angel-SL: whats the issue?
[11:02] <Angel-SL> jussi01: no, i'm just looking.
[11:02] <Angel-SL> jussi01: the main question is at xubuntu.
[11:03] <jussi01> Angel-SL: well try not to clog up the channel too much :D
[11:03] <Ace2016> hi all
[11:03] <Ace2016> anyone get gfxboot working in grub on feisty???
[11:03] <jussi01> hi Ace2016
[11:04] <fdoving> kostovnet: you there?
[11:04] <qsu> could somebody help with my sound, cause it seems that my mic is not working
[11:04] <kostovnet> yes, sorry
[11:05] <kostovnet> yes I do
[11:05] <kostovnet> for my eth0 connection is down
[11:05] <jussi01> !alsa | qsu
[11:05] <ubotu> qsu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:06] <the-erm> qsu: alsamixer is the best mixer out there for messing with the sound.  kmix is ok, but isn't as powerful as alsamixer.
[11:06] <qsu> my sound is working when i play music
[11:06] <fdoving> kostovnet: try to quit knetworkmanager.
[11:07] <jussi01> qsu: go to erminal, type alsamixer and make sure your mic volume is up
[11:07] <jussi01> terminal*
[11:07] <fdoving> kostovnet: kde asks knetworkmanager if it's connected or not and consider that answer as the truth, but in your case you use ppp, which knetworkmanager can't handle and isn't aware of, then most kde apps give up before they actually try to connect to anything. Because knetworkmanager is running and disconnected.
[11:08] <kostovnet> Yes, it's working now :) Thank You - quiting network manager did it.
[11:08] <fdoving> kostovnet: great :)
[11:09] <the-erm> I'll have to remember that.
[11:10] <qsu> everything is up jussi01
[11:11] <qsu> np
[11:17] <Angel-SL> i installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu, now the boot image IS kubuntu.. how do I change it back?
[11:19] <jussi01> Angel-SL: at the login screen go to seesion and select gnome...
[11:19] <f3k> hi all
[11:19] <the-erm> hi
[11:20] <Angel-SL> jussi01: no, the boot startup, the one with the progess bar
[11:20] <nbcb> help! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help
[11:21] <pag> Angel-SL, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so  should do the trick :)
[11:22] <Angel-SL> pag: now my login screen is xubuntu's =/
[11:24] <the-erm> Angel-SL: you could always try and reinstall kdm.
[11:24] <pag> Angel-SL, hmm.. iirc you can change it somehow through that command. I can't say how, because I have only one uspalsh installed. sorry.
[11:24] <the-erm> See if that works ... then again I could be totally off.
[11:25] <pag> the-erm, afaik kdm has nothing to do with it :) On the other hand reinstalling ubuntu-artwork-usplash might work
[11:26] <pag> sorry, tha package is usplash-theme-ubuntu :)
[11:27] <Angel-SL> pag: is there a way to like.. configure it, not reinstall a package?
[11:27] <the-erm> Honestly ... I wouldn't care if it said xubuntu or ubuntu or kubuntu.  It's all pretty much the same.
[11:28] <fdoving> Angel-SL: the way is the command pag gave you earlier: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:28] <fdoving> Angel-SL: make sure to select the one you want.
[11:28] <Angel-SL> fdoving: that changes login & boot?
[11:28] <fdoving> Angel-SL: boot.
[11:28] <Angel-SL> what about login then.
[11:29] <fdoving> Angel-SL: what do you want it to be? gnome gdm? kde kdm?
[11:29] <Angel-SL> fdoving: gnome
[11:30] <fdoving> Angel-SL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:30] <fdoving> Angel-SL: make sure to select gdm as the default.
[11:31] <Angel-SL> fdoving: thanks alot. *grabs a reboot
[11:31] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[11:33] <Angel-SL> fdoving: not working; xubuntu is still as startup; and once i rebooted the usplash became kubuntu again
[11:35] <alexander> How do I register my nick?
[11:35] <the-erm> man that's a little off topic.
[11:36] <Angel-SL> the-erm: really off topid.
[11:36] <the-erm> alexander: try going to http://freenode.net and seeing if it has any answers.
[11:36] <alexander> tnx
[11:39] <derick_> hi
[11:39] <iwan_> hi too
[11:40] <nbcb> help! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help
[11:42] <nbcb> help! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help
[11:43] <the-erm> you need to change your FILES= inside config.sys
[11:45] <the-erm> btw that was a joke.
[11:49] <ForgeAus> rofl
[11:50] <the-erm> Good someone caught it.  Good ol dos 3.3
[11:50] <ForgeAus> well dos 6 used the same thing
[11:51] <ForgeAus> 3.1 was the first MS DOS OS I encountered.. from memory
[11:51] <ForgeAus> and thats quite along time ago...
[11:55] <amitron> How do I share a printer over SMB?
[11:57] <ninHer> hi all
[11:58] <amitron> how do I share printers over SMB?
[11:59] <amitron> "echo!" "echo." "echo.." "echo......"
[12:00] <the-erm> I would try googling it, learning about samba's config files, and going from there.
[12:00] <imbecile> can someone tell me how to uninstall gnome?
[12:00] <amitron> I did try googling for days
[12:01] <amitron> I found something about it, but it did not work.
[12:01] <the-erm> sudo apt-get remove gnome ... maybe.
[12:01] <imbecile> the-erm,  thanks.. sorry im new
[12:03] <the-erm> amitron: I hope you were restarting samba to make sure it was reading the config files while you were attempting this.
[12:03] <the-erm> I've had problems when the ip addresses were not on the same subnet.
[12:03] <the-erm> windows wouldn't talk to the linux machine.
[12:03] <amitron> Well, I even tried a full reboot and nothing happened
[12:03] <the-erm> amitron: can you access files?
[12:03] <amitron> Haven't tried it.
[12:04] <amitron> Yes, I can. With username Guest and no password
[12:05] <the-erm> It's been so long since I've even attempted to run smb.  I've not qualified to answer your question, it would just end up being a frustrating experience for me, and you.
[12:05] <Sandeepc> !nvidia
[12:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:05] <amitron> aha...
[12:05] <Sandeepc> !Grub
[12:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:05] <the-erm> Years since I've used smamba.  I just ssh/sftp in when I need files.
[12:06] <amitron> How do you share printers then between OSX and Ubuntu?
[12:06] <the-erm> Don't you need appletalk for something like that?
[12:06] <the-erm> Maybe I'm totally off.
[12:07] <the-erm> It's been years since I used a mac as well...
[12:07] <amitron> You can use SMB. Or that HP thingy, but my printer is Epson... Yes, OSX can print over AppleTalk/Bonjour
[12:11] <bonaldo2000> Is there a way to set a buffer size or something for ntfs3g? I notice that when I play movies the disk light is blinking rapidly. It shouldnt do this during the entire movie right? Houdn't it read it into the RAM?
[12:11] <bonaldo2000> SHOULDNT
[12:11] <bonaldo2000> instead of Houdn't
[12:14] <nbcb> help! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help
[12:14] <ForgeAus> I have to say thats the BIGGEST netsplit I ever saw
[12:15] <ForgeAus> nbcb can you close some files?
[12:16] <nbcb> i can but i'm just downloading 4 bittorrents
[12:16] <nbcb> sometimes 2 bittorrents also hit error
[12:20] <the-erm> are there any repositories similar to plf for x/ed/k/ubuntu?
[12:22] <chaka> need some help to let my prism 2 Wifi card to run oder WPA
[12:22] <chaka> any help
[12:23] <Sandeepc> hey guys, need help with installing nvidia drivers
[12:23] <Sandeepc> !nvidia seems to be for ubuntu
[12:23] <Sandeepc> not kde
[12:24] <sorsis> what would be the main reason for moving from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[12:24] <chaka> plz i have try all what i can do still the WIFI Card runs only with WEP and not with WPA
[12:24] <Sandeepc> need help with installing nvidia drivers..!nvidia seems to be for Gnome
[12:25] <chaka> so is someone there how can help me
[12:28] <chaka> need some help to let my prism 2 Wifi card to run oder WPA
[12:40] <Sandeepc> !root
[12:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:41] <GNUro> Hello!
[12:42] <GNUro> Why "apt-get install libqt4-dev-kdecopy" tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed? and many others important packages are no longer required( as kmix..ecc)?
[12:42] <|ericsson|> Where would I find how to administer user accounts in kde?
[12:44] <GNUro> |ericsson|: K menu> system Settings> User Menagment :P
[12:44] <|ericsson|> GNUro: thnx mate ;)
[12:44] <chaka> so just first need to now witch driver i need for the Prism2 Card i need for WPA
[12:44] <kinp> hello
[12:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> when I try to download something through firefox, it just says it's 100% downloaded, but the file doesn't download. Did I accidently delete a package or something?
[12:48] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: dont think so
[12:48] <st1ckly78> i need some help locating a package that will play aac in amarok
[12:48] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: what directory is the default you're downloading files through ?
[12:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> desktop
[12:48] <_StefanS_> st1ckly78: sudo apt-cache search acc
[12:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> its /home/dettoaltrimenti/Desktop, _StefanS_
[12:48] <st1ckly78> thank you i will try it
[12:49] <chaka> what about me will i get some help hier
[12:51] <_StefanS_> chaka: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4041.html
[12:51] <_StefanS_> chaka: see if that helps
[12:51] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: whats the url ?
[12:52] <st1ckly78> how would i find it under adept manager
[12:52] <chaka> will check the site
[12:52] <_StefanS_> st1ckly78: lemme check
[12:53] <_StefanS_> st1ckly78: well you should just search for aac.
[12:53] <st1ckly78> nothing shows up
[12:53] <_StefanS_> st1ckly78: if you haven't got it, you might want to change your /etc/apt/sources.list to look something like this: http://rafb.net/p/J5Yr0c65.html
[12:54] <_StefanS_> st1ckly78: you need some repositories for those
[12:54] <_StefanS_> st1ckly78: look in my previous post
[12:54] <chaka> no sorry it is the driver for USB i have PCMCIA
[12:54] <chaka> but tx
[12:54] <chaka> thx
[12:54] <_StefanS_> st1ckly78: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[12:54] <st1ckly78> thanks i will try that too
[12:54] <_StefanS_> chaka: uhm ok, there's some resources about that card on an ubuntu wiki... lemme check
[12:56] <_StefanS_> chaka: you need almost the drivers as for the usb card
[12:56] <_StefanS_> chaka: almost the same I mean
[12:56] <_StefanS_> chaka: chipset is the same
[12:56] <chaka> just find it will now read some stuff
[12:57] <_StefanS_> good :)
[12:57] <tdn> How do I install 7.04 with encrypted root file system using LUKS? I have not been able to find any HOWTOs on this for 7.04. Only for Edgy, but I've heard that it should be supported by the installer in Feisty. I have tried booting up on the alternate cd. But I cannot find anything about encrypted file systems in the partitioner. Any help will be appreciated. :)
[12:58] <_StefanS_> tdn:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420739
[12:58] <_StefanS_> tdn: might help you
[01:00] <tdn> _StefanS_, well... I already read that. But he is also doing it manually (the Edgy way). It should be supported from the installer in Feisty. I would like to do it the "Feisty way".
[01:00] <icecruncher> help, I just compiled pidgin, and I cannot connect because it's saying ssl is not availible, what should i do?
[01:01] <icecruncher> what do I have to install?
[01:01] <_StefanS_> tdn: sorry then, I can't help
[01:02] <heinkel_111> sync --archive --sparse  --exclude=/home/user/./* --exclude=/home/user/../*  /home/user/.* target:/backup
[01:02] <heinkel_111> should this construct be sufficient to back up all the damned .files?
[01:02] <heinkel_111> rsync
[01:02] <heinkel_111> not sync
[01:02] <heinkel_111> as in
[01:02] <heinkel_111> rsync --archive --sparse  --exclude=/home/user/./* --exclude=/home/user/../*  /home/user/.* target:/backup
[01:03] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: you should check that pidgin found the openssl dev headers
[01:03] <tdn> heinkel_111, what does --sparse?
[01:03] <pilar> Hi everyone!
[01:03] <jeroen_> hi pilar
[01:03] <heinkel_111> a more effective way to handle files that occupy a lot of place on the disk but little information
[01:03] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[01:03] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: try to recompile it, and see if it will find it automatically
[01:04] <pilar> Well, the point that brings me here is not very important, but let's see if there is solution
[01:04] <heinkel_111> tdn: my prime concern was if the wildcards would find all the files
[01:04] <heinkel_111> and the right files
[01:04] <pilar> My laptop is an amd64, so my system is a Kubuntu feisty for this amd64
[01:04] <jeroen_> ok pilar;)
[01:05] <pilar> the question is that aparently there are problems with flash player in firefox on amd64
[01:05] <pilar> Because of that I installed firefox32 with the flash plug-in
[01:05] <pilar> But my language is not english, it is spanish
[01:06] <jeroen_> ok pilar mine is dutch lol
[01:06] <pilar> And I would like to translate firefox32 to spanish
[01:06] <heinkel_111> tdn - i just found out the answer is no!
[01:06] <jeroen_> i can try help u translate
[01:06] <pilar> I'd apreciate it
[01:07] <heinkel_111> tdn: because it seems like since i do /home/user/.* it finds all files and directories in home, not only the .files
[01:07] <icecruncher> _StefanS_: so install openssl and try running the program again?
[01:07] <jeroen_> well i dont know a quiq solution
[01:08] <jeroen_> i downloaded the flach player while i tried to play a game online:d
[01:08] <jeroen_> Pilar u can try to add a plugin on fire fox
[01:09] <jeroen_> i think thes a flash plugin for it
[01:09] <heinkel_111> can someone help me with a wildcard that finds all dotfiles?
[01:09] <heinkel_111> please?
[01:11] <jeroen_> pilar you can open firefox and click on tools and then on add- ons
[01:11] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: ones having a dot or ones starting with a dot? just in the directory or recursively?
[01:12] <heinkel_111> Lynoure: the ones starting with a dot, recursively
[01:14] <pilar> Sorry, I was called by phone
[01:14] <pilar> yes, I can
[01:14] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: find /directorytostartwith -name '.*' -type f
[01:14] <pilar> when I searched for spanish pack I didn't find it
[01:15] <pilar> if you can help me to do it... ;)
[01:15] <heinkel_111> Lynoure: can I put that find thing into an rsync command?
[01:16] <heinkel_111> Lynoure: like I tried rsync --archive --sparse   /home/user/.* target:/backup
[01:16] <heinkel_111> but /home/user/.* gets EVERYTHING in the home directory
[01:16] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: possibly, but not directly in the smack middle off it
[01:16] <heinkel_111> because of the . and .. entries
[01:17] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: I'd be lazy and use rsync with --files-from=FILE
[01:18] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: where the FILE is the file having the results of the find. At least if it is a one time thing.
[01:18] <heinkel_111> well it is not a one timer
[01:19] <heinkel_111> Lyonoure: but I guess I can script that so that shouldn't stop me
[01:19] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: yes, you can. also there is most likely some way to do this directly with --include=PATTERN
[01:20] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: but I don't do support at the moment, so you get to experiment with that on your own :)
[01:20] <heinkel_111> I actually think I might prefer the file list as it will be easier to check
[01:21] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: happy rsyncing to you then :)
[01:21] <heinkel_111> Lynoure thanks for assistance
[01:22] <pilar> I still am looking for a solution to my issue
[01:22] <pilar> jeroen_, are you?
[01:23] <Lynoure> heinkel_111: :)
[01:24] <tim__> join #ubuntu-forum.de
[01:26] <tdn> How do I install 7.04 with encrypted root file system using LUKS? I have not been able to find any HOWTOs on this for 7.04. Only for Edgy, but I've heard that it should be supported by the installer in Feisty. I have tried booting up on the alternate cd. But I cannot find anything about encrypted file systems in the partitioner. Any help will be appreciated. :)
[01:28] <jaims> hello all
[01:29] <jaims> im planning to upgrade my kubuntu from edgy to feisty
[01:30] <jaims> what are the probabilities of success, i mean no problems at all, if I use the integrated with adept_updater update tool?
[01:30] <jaims> does anyone have tried that?
[01:30] <lerneaen_hydra> 'lo all, I was just running the graphical dist upgrade tool, when two error boxes popped up, however they popped up behind another window and can't seem to redraw
[01:30] <lerneaen_hydra> so I don't know what the error is or what to do ;)
[01:31] <lerneaen_hydra> any terminal-command to list what's happening?
[01:31] <jaims> but can u use normally feisty, regardless of some correction to do?
[01:31] <shinygerbil> !upgrade
[01:31] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:31] <jaims> (sorry 'bout my level of english, not too good)
[01:32] <jaims> learneaen_hydra, ubotu: thanks
[01:34] <lerneaen_hydra> shinygerbil: any idea?
[01:34] <jaims> which is the preferred way of knowing what kubuntu do i have installed?
[01:34] <easytiger> how do you get compiz working in feisty?
[01:35] <jaims> is there something like 'uname -a' suitable to find my kubuntu version?
[01:35] <lerneaen_hydra> jaims: go to help, in the main menu, and then release notes, it should display the version number there
[01:35] <jaims> cat /etc/apt/sources.list, of course
[01:35] <jaims> aha
[01:35] <jaims> ty again
[01:35] <shinygerbil> lerneaen_hydra, sorry, I don't know :/
[01:40] <misterx> hi
[01:41] <jaims> hi
[01:44] <jaims> ok, ill try my luck with the upgrade this weekend...
[01:45] <jaims> ty all, bye bye
[01:46] <pilar> Well, Finally I could do it
[01:48] <tdn> In the alternate installer under Partition disks, what does the "K" mean and the "f"? I am guessing the "f" is for format, but what about the "K"?
[01:49] <nbcb> sometimes 2 bittorrents also hit error
[01:55] <aldin> hi, how do i recompile tcl/tk8.4 to have antialiased support for amsn?
[01:56] <sonoftheclayr> aldin: you want to use tcl/tk8.5
[01:56] <aldin> sonoftheclayr, i want amsn with antialiased fonts, but it requires tcl/tk to be compiled with that argument
[01:57] <aldin> sonoftheclayr, do i need 8.5, cause there in repos is 8.4
[01:57] <sonoftheclayr> there is a good guide on how to do it on the amsn wiki
[01:58] <ibert> hi! is there a way to read the password of an user as root?
[01:58] <sonoftheclayr> http://amsn-project.net/wiki/Enabling_antialiasing
[01:59] <icecruncher> anyone know where to get the pidgin deb file?
[02:03] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: there are debs about for the betas, but it's final now so they aren't any good. what's wrong with compiling it?
[02:03] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: got lost of errors
[02:03] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: did you have all the deps?
[02:03] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: now working but cannot connect because of missing ssl
[02:04] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: no
[02:04] <rmd_> why won't openoffice display icons?
[02:12] <Beaver{rRr}> hello
[02:13] <Beaver{rRr}> can someone explain me, why kopete can not connect to icq?
[02:13] <st1ckly78> I am looking for some help with amarok plaing aac files in kubuntu 6.10
[02:14] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: getdeb.com i just stumbled upon it and pidgin 2.0 is right there on the front
[02:15] <Jucato> st1ckly78: have you installed libxine-extracodecs (the one you need for MP3's)
[02:16] <st1ckly78> what repository is that in
[02:17] <Jucato> st1ckly78: multiverse
[02:18] <st1ckly78> i dont see it
[02:18] <Jucato> st1ckly78: have you added multiverse already?
[02:19] <Jucato> on Edgy (6.10) you need to add it
[02:19] <st1ckly78> i have added the the multiverse, universe, medibuntu
[02:19] <Jucato> hm....
[02:20] <st1ckly78> i think i found it
[02:22] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: thanks
[02:23] <sonoftheclayr> np
[02:23] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: it was by chance that i came across it
[02:24] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: btw, it's .net, not .com
[02:24] <icecruncher> lol
[02:24] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: sorry
[02:24] <icecruncher> np
[02:26] <ubuntu> hallo jemand aus germany here
[02:27] <macrozzy> hallo brauch ma hilfe
[02:27] <Jucato> !de | macrozzy
[02:27] <ubotu> macrozzy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:41] <Alarm> hello, how can i check if my nvidia drivers are working properly and installed correctly ?
[02:41] <Jucato> Alarm: glxinfo | grep render
[02:41] <Tm_T> !away | Aelwyn
[02:41] <ubotu> Aelwyn: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam
[02:41] <Jucato> Alarm: if it says "rendering: yes" then it's working
[02:42] <Alarm> Jucato,  i get yes
[02:42] <lz1gjd> !gnump3d
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnump3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <Alarm> as i also see the logo
[02:42] <Alarm> but i still am not sure if everything is ok
[02:42] <Jucato> Alarm: then you're ok
[02:42] <Jucato> you're already ok, ok? :D
[02:42] <Alarm> hehe ok ok
[02:43] <Alarm> just try to figure out why i am losing suddenly so many frames on cedega after a new os install
[02:43] <Alarm> anyway
[02:43] <Alarm> i will ask in that channel
[02:49] <alinka> buna la totzi
[02:49] <Tm_T> alinka: asf nrlke
[02:51] <Jucato> finnish? O.o
[02:51] <Tm_T> Jucato: no, both hands dropped to keyboard
[02:52] <Jucato> -_-
[02:55] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> handed out 200 Ubuntu CD's on Thursday and did about 50-60 this is the KDE desktop intro's at CEBIT
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> Kubuntu sorry
[02:56] <Jucato> wow
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: 9 hours straight on my feet, I swear I couldnt feel them when I went home
[02:57] <Beaver{rRr}> hello
[02:58] <ForgeAus> handed out? who to?
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: my bloody digital camera decided to kick the bucket though so i have no pics :-(
[02:58] <Beaver{rRr}> why konqueror and kopete cannot connect with gprs, but irc - can?
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: CEBIT Sydney
[02:58] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: aw... :(
[02:59] <Beaver{rRr}> thanx
[03:15] <Cypherix> I have a problem while installing, when I boot to the CD and choose Install, it start every thing up normally until the logo and the loading bar, it goes a few times back and forth, and than just stop, some thing called BusyBox comes up... I have a 64Bit system, Intel Core Duo 2. 2G DDRAM-2. and just one DVD drive.
[03:19] <Daniela> hallo zusammen, weiss jemand login/pwd zur 704 live cd?
[03:19] <Daniela> hab mich abgemeldet nach einer installation und komm nicht mehr rein . ..
[03:20] <mischdele> !de | Daniela
[03:20] <ubotu> Daniela: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:20] <ramses_> holaaaa
[03:20] <Daniela> oky thanks
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> only on slashdot could one be modded up for making an Alice's Restaurant reference...
[03:22] <dthacker> Well, you can get anything you want....
[03:24] <gemidjy> dthacker: o.0
[03:24] <gemidjy> why fire damage?
[03:25] <tuxilina> hy
[03:25] <tuxilina> how can i start graphical effects in kubuntu 7.04?
[03:26] <dthacker> gemidjy: it survive a house fire.  the top is a bit melted, and there are minor smoke marks on the display, but it seems to run
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> tuxilina: you start by installing them
[03:27] <dthacker> After surving such a traumatic event, it should not have to settle for windows
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> dthacker: could always go for the trauma hat trick and dual boot OS/2 and BeOS
[03:28] <tuxilina> thank you daisuke_ido
[03:28] <dthacker> Daisuke_Ido: no, it's suffered enough
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> tuxilina: yeah, there's not a simple control panel to do it in kubuntu, which i would LOVE to see rectified, make kubuntu more than the redheaded stepchild of ubuntu :\
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> dthacker: Plan 9?
[03:29] <BenPA> hi all ... 2 problems here 1. my laptop keeps going into hibernation mode where is the setting to turn it off ... 2. I cannot figure out how to place the konqueror house icon in my task bar
[03:29] <dthacker> Daisuke_Ido: next you're going to suggest SCO Xenix...
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> dthacker: it crossed my mind
[03:30] <icecruncher> can anyone tell me how to config pidgin for google talk?
[03:32] <oxydon> hey
[03:32] <oxydon> hey
[03:32] <icecruncher> oxydon, hi
[03:32] <oxydon> can anyone help me with writing on ntfs with kubuntu
[03:32] <oxydon> its giving me a headache
[03:33] <dthacker> ubotu: !anyone
[03:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:33] <Yorokobi> !ntfs-3g | oxydon
[03:33] <ubotu> oxydon: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:34] <BenPA> hi all ... 2 problems here 1. my laptop keeps going into hibernation mode where is the setting to turn it off ... 2. I cannot figure out how to place the konqueror house icon in my task bar
[03:34] <binks_> oxydon: how you gettin on
[03:34] <oxydon> i did the installation
[03:34] <binks_> oxydon: and did it install
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> oxydon: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[03:34] <oxydon> but i cant run the program from kubuntu
[03:34] <nuxil> kickoff
[03:34] <nuxil> !kickoff
[03:34] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> oxydon: oops sorry wrong nick
[03:34] <binks_> so you now see it in system ntsf config tool
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> icecruncher: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[03:35] <dthacker> BenPA: for the icon, right click on taskbar, look for "add to panel"
[03:35] <nuxil> !kickoff kicker
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kickoff kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <nuxil> bleh
[03:35] <binks_> oxydon: do you get  kmenu systen ntfs-config tool
[03:35] <oxydon> so can anyone help in this matter
[03:35] <oxydon> no i dont get it
[03:35] <binks_> ststem ^^
[03:36] <binks_> did you enable universe yet
[03:36] <BenPA> dthacker add to panel what?
[03:36] <oxydon> yes i did
[03:36] <oxydon> let me check
[03:36] <dthacker> BenPA: do you see the "Add to Panel" selection when you right click on the taskbar?
[03:36] <binks_> then rerun sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[03:37] <binks_> !ntfs-3g
[03:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:37] <BenPA> no
[03:38] <dthacker> BenPA: if you are running KDE, you probably have several icons just to the right of the KDE button.  Correct?
[03:38] <BenPA> I see add applet to panel and I see add new panel ... also add application to panel
[03:39] <dthacker> BenPA: version probably.  OK, select add application to panel
[03:39] <oxydon> i installed it from adept
[03:39] <BenPA> ok
[03:39] <BenPA> I am using 6.10
[03:39] <savetheWorld> Hi all - I just tried to read "man X" and discovered that kubuntu does not install the X man page  (X as in X-windows)  Is there a page somewhere that describes the metapackages ?  I want to install tons of stuff (Equivalent ot Full Centos 4.4 install) but this piecemeal approach is driving me crazy
[03:40] <dthacker> ok, now look under internet to find konqueror
[03:40] <savetheWorld> !obotu metapackages
[03:40] <BenPA> ok
[03:40] <savetheWorld> Rats Obotu has Nothing.
[03:40] <BenPA> I see konqueror browser
[03:41] <dthacker> choose that
[03:41] <LjL> savetheWorld: are you sure there *is* a manpage for X? there is one for xorg.conf
[03:41] <LjL> savetheWorld, it's called ubotu for starters
[03:41] <LjL> but that's all it has anyway
[03:41] <LjL> !metapackage
[03:41] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[03:41] <BenPA> nothing happens
[03:41] <savetheWorld> LjL: yes, I'm sure. Its been part of Gnu/Linux since Linux started supporting X.
[03:42] <rmd_> is there ubotu for finishishers?
[03:42] <BenPA> never mind I see it now
[03:42] <dthacker> BenPA: please stand by....
[03:42] <savetheWorld> LjL: Might there be anything in the Wiki?
[03:42] <BenPA> but the icon is a glode not the little house
[03:42] <binks_> oxydon: so now is it the menu
[03:42] <oxydon> no
[03:43] <binks_> at a terminal type ntfs-config
[03:43] <dthacker> BenPA: do you have two globes now?
[03:43] <savetheWorld> LjL: are you pretty familiar with the apt tools?
[03:43] <oxydon> it says command not found
[03:43] <BenPA> no, just one but another icon turned up ... login window preference
[03:43] <LjL> savetheWorld: about metapackages? dunno, maybe. anyway "apt-file search X...gz" turns out with absolutely nothing
[03:44] <binks_> so its not installed
[03:44] <dthacker> BenPA: let's try this again.
[03:44] <binks_> at a terminal type sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[03:44] <oxydon> i opened adept and it says it is installed
[03:44] <BenPA> ok
[03:44] <binks_> humor me
[03:44] <savetheWorld> LjL: Is tehre a way to get a list of all the packages?  I could crunch the output for info.
[03:44] <LjL> savetheWorld: i think i'm relatively familiar, yes. also, "apt-cache rdepends xorg" (or xserver-xorg) gives no relevant metapackages
[03:44] <dthacker> Right click on panel, select add an application
[03:44] <LjL> savetheWorld: apt-cache search ""
[03:44] <binks_> type sudo apt-get install ntfs-config | oxydon
[03:45] <BenPA> ok
[03:45] <binks_> not the end bit mind
[03:45] <savetheWorld> LjL: off i go.  (sounds like it'll be "hyuge" :-) )  Thanks.
[03:45] <oxydon> i did and now it sayscouldn't find package ntfs-config
[03:45] <dthacker> BenPA: This time look for a "Personal Files", that should be the home (house) icon.
[03:45] <LjL> savetheWorld: i really do think there isn't a "man X" available, though. not in Ubuntu at any rate.
[03:46] <binks_> can you paste me a copy of the file /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin
[03:46] <binks_> ie open it using kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:46] <BenPA> I don't see a "Personal Files"
[03:46] <savetheWorld> LjL: That would be exceedingly bizarre.  the Man page for "X" is a standard.
[03:46] <oxydon> binks: is this for me
[03:46] <binks_> yes oxydon#
[03:47] <dthacker> BenPA: hang on for 2-3 mins,  I need to boot a laptop and check this
[03:47] <BenPA> I see "Find Files/Folders"
[03:47] <binks_> oxydon: ill pm you
[03:47] <dthacker> BenPA: does that have the house icon?
[03:48] <BenPA> no
[03:48] <dthacker> BenPA: then give me a couple of mins to check on another machine, ok?
[03:48] <BenPA> it has a magnifying glass over a page of paper
[03:48] <BenPA> ok, thanks
[03:48] <LjL> savetheWorld, usually when you install a binary that's supposed to be run by the user, the manpage comes with it, it's not in another package. i suppose there might be exceptions (since X isn't normally run by the user anyway... there is "man startx" for instance), but then how would the manpage be called? /usr/share/man/man1/X.1.gz i'd assume, no?
[03:49] <oxydon> binks: i cant pm u
[03:49] <binks_> i did u in konversation
[03:49] <oxydon> it says i'm not a registered user
[03:49] <rmd_> is there a KDE prog for video conversion? (ie, from flv to mpg or whatever)
[03:49] <stdin> LjL: the man page for X is "man Xorg"
[03:50] <LjL> stdin: ouch... right. i'd tried "man xorg" :)
[03:50] <LjL> savetheWorld, ^
[03:51] <nuxil> when i put in my usb storage. "512 MB" thers a popup window in kde.. where does that popup window get's ints info from.. i mean,, how does it know its example sdb1. ? i do like to know? i guess it gets its info from some kernel message.
[03:51] <nuxil> but where
[03:51] <LjL> hotplug?
[03:51] <binks_> http://pastebin.co.uk/new  paste /etc/apt/sources.list in here you open it with kate
[03:51] <stdin> nuxil: i think from HAL too
[03:52] <binks_> oxydon: ^^
[03:52] <oxydon> yes
[03:52] <nuxil> alright.. thanks.. i'll look into those things
[03:52] <binks_> http://pastebin.co.uk/new  paste /etc/apt/sources.list in here you open it with kate
[03:52] <binks_> oxydon:
[03:52] <binks_> ^^^^^^
[03:52] <oxydon> binks: i just pmed u
[03:54] <binks_> small goals but goals never the less
[03:54] <savetheWorld> LjL: sorry was afk, yes, that is how the man page is named.
[03:55] <savetheWorld> Its been on every *NIX box I've ever used. Including Apollo-Domain-IX, Ultrix, HPUX, AIX, Every Linux distro I've installed, and even (yuck) SCO. :-)
[03:55] <LjL> savetheWorld, you've seen the second message too?
[03:56] <LjL> it's man Xorg
[03:56] <stdin> ie, not "man xorg"
[03:56] <savetheWorld> (and SUN, Coherent, Charles River,  etc.. :-) )
[03:57] <savetheWorld> man xorg looks very informative, but its not  "man X" .  Perhaps it has been replaced by a total re-write.
[03:57] <savetheWorld> that would make sense
[03:58] <stdin> savetheWorld: try "man Xserver" too
[03:59] <savetheWorld> stdin: thanks.  Thats good too.  On Centos I see no xorg man page. but centos is using the Xorg X windows.
[03:59] <savetheWorld> "very interestinnnng"
[03:59] <savetheWorld> :-)
[04:00] <savetheWorld> xserver is on centos
[04:00] <LjL> savetheWorld: well anyway i'm quite positive there isn't an X.1.gz per se anywhere
[04:01] <savetheWorld> LjL: Thank you.
[04:01] <savetheWorld> LjL: Only reasonable conclusion is that it has been replaced with a total re-write
[04:01] <dthacker> BenPA: still here?
[04:01] <LjL> savetheWorld: apt-file is a useful tool for searching for files in packages, by the way (though the packages.ubuntu.com site can also serve the same purpose)
[04:01] <BenPA> yes
[04:01] <LjL> savetheWorld: i suppose.
[04:02] <savetheWorld> ah, "apt-file"  good to know. Thanks
[04:02] <Jucato> apt:/
[04:02] <LjL> savetheWorld: and for finding what metapackage, if any, might contain any given package, "apt-cache rdepends package"
[04:02] <dthacker> On my daughters 6.10 machine, I was able to put a sencond Konq icon on the taskbar, then change the icon.  However, I was not able to get it to open directly to the home directory.
[04:02] <LjL> though sometimes you'll have to use "apt-cache --recurse rdepends package", and that gets harder to parse
[04:03] <savetheWorld> LjL:  as in: "apt-cache rdepends "some-named-Meta-package" ?
[04:03] <savetheWorld> oh, other way around. I see
[04:03] <LjL> savetheWorld: no, as in "apt-cache rdepends the-package-you-want-to-find-a-metapackage-for".
[04:03] <dthacker> BenPA: so I only found half a solution to your problem
[04:04] <savetheWorld> LjL:  got it.  had is bassackwards
[04:04] <BenPA> ok, I understand ... I have the icon for Konq web but not the file one ... this is sort of strange because any time I did install kubuntu-desktop it would be there
[04:04] <savetheWorld> *it
[04:04] <BenPA> however
[04:05] <dthacker> Yep, but my daughter's install is 6.10 and it isn't there, unfortunately
[04:05] <BenPA> when I did the install on the laptop I did a apt-get autoremove when I was done it seems to have taken out docker and 2 other things ... could that be something?
[04:06] <BenPA> oh, ok so it's just not me
[04:06] <dthacker> BenPA: possibly.  I try not to remove things.  I break machines that way.
[04:06] <BenPA> lol maybe so but it was not there for you either
[04:06] <Kr4t05> ...
[04:06] <Kr4t05> It's completely impossible to bring files back from an rm, isn't it?
[04:06] <lettuce> is there a version of xubuntu feisty available for macs?
[04:07] <Jucato> unless it's an mactel
[04:07] <Jucato> (they dropped "official" ppc support starting feisty)
[04:07] <lettuce> I'm pussing it on an ooold imac g3
[04:07] <Jucato> let
[04:08] <BenPA> dthacker thanks for the help with that I will continue to search for some solution ... now ... what about my other issue?
[04:08] <Jucato> let's see if the bot knows something
[04:08] <Jucato> !ppc
[04:08] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[04:08] <Jucato> lettuce: ^^^
[04:09] <BenPA> dthacker ... my laptop keeps going into hibernation mode where is the setting to turn it off ...
[04:09] <dthacker> BenPA: I had to change mine in the laptop BIOS.
[04:09] <ForgeAus> actually wasn't Amiga also powerpc?
[04:10] <BenPA> ok, hold on let me try that
[04:10] <ForgeAus> or was it just the motorola 86k processor bit they shared?
[04:11] <LjL> ForgeAus: 68k. amiga and mac were 68k. mac switched to PPC, amigas got third-party PPC boards and some programs took advantage of them
[04:11] <LjL> ForgeAus: AmigaOS 4 is PPC, however it's not very widely deployed to say the least.
[04:11] <ForgeAus> LjL IC
[04:12] <ForgeAus> I realize its not widely deployed
[04:12] <ForgeAus> Amiga kinda faded into obscurity... but its still around... just
[04:12] <LjL> AROS is x86.
[04:12] <ForgeAus> yup
[04:12] <ForgeAus> but aros is only AmogaOS api compatible
[04:13] <ForgeAus> it doesn't run AmigaOS binaries
[04:13] <dthacker> Is there a way to change my password from the boot CD?
[04:13] <LjL> ForgeAus: unless someone writes an integrated emulator like AmigaOS 4's, yeah.
[04:13] <LjL> there is stuff underway to get something like that, though. (well, at least integrating UAE a bit better)
[04:14] <ForgeAus> yeah UAE does 86k
[04:14] <ForgeAus> amikit integrates it nicer... but I don't know how far that goes...
[04:14] <tchize> Hi there
[04:14] <ForgeAus> not sure if it does any PowerPC stuff tho
[04:15] <tchize> Any dedicated place to discuss kde4 snapshots in feisty fawn?
[04:15] <tchize> !kde4
[04:15] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[04:16] <Jucato> tchize: normally you could ask in #kubuntu-devel but being a 1) a Sunday and 2) almost time for UDS, I don't think that many people will be able to answer you right now
[04:17] <ForgeAus> whats UDS?
[04:17] <Jucato> Ubuntu Developers Summit
[04:17] <rrdd> ed #ubuntu
[04:17] <rrdd> http://seif.hopto.org/screenshots/2007-04-03-003744_1280x1024_scrot.png
[04:19] <roadfish> #join /ubuntu
[04:19] <dthacker> roadfish: do the slash join pound ubuntu
[04:20] <binks_> !dist-upgrade
[04:20] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:21] <tchize> Jucato: ok, since they are probably busy now, will be back to them in a week or so, thanks :p
[04:21] <binks_> !dist-upgrade | oxydon
[04:21] <ubotu> oxydon: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:22] <Jucato> tchize: probably a week, you can also drop by once in a while to check. not everyone is going to UDS :)
[04:23] <tchize> Jucato: thanks
[04:23] <tchize> nice week-end everyone
[04:23] <tchize> and bye
[04:23] <Jucato> bye
[04:23] <Yorokobi> savetheWorld, if you're still looking for xorg docs, 'sudo apt-get install xorg-docs' :)
[04:25] <The_Machine> For some reason the knetworkmanager only picks up wireless networks *sometimes*
[04:25] <The_Machine> i know they're always there and working - but it's like..  the card doesn't work
[04:25] <The_Machine> and sometimes it does
[04:25] <The_Machine> i'm really frustrated - could someone give me a hand?
[04:27] <BenPA> dthacker ... no reference to hibernation mode in my bios settings
[04:28] <The_Machine> be RIGHT back!
[04:28] <Topclass> anyone know how to go about configuring the exta buttons on a logitech mx1000?
[04:30] <dthacker> BenPA: my laptop runs 6.06, try in System Setting -> Laptops and Power -> Battery -> Power Control
[04:31] <dthacker> BenPA: There's a suspend setting I had to change there.
[04:37] <mart_> how do you add items to the KDE menu? every time I add an item with the KDE menu editor it disappears after saving and refreshing it
[04:39] <dario> hi all
[04:39] <dario> i need help
[04:40] <dario> hi all
[04:40] <dario> i need help for a stupid thing
[04:40] <dario> can someone help me
[04:40] <aldin> how do i change firefox menu font colors? i use gtk-qt-style human
[04:40] <aldin> under kubuntu
[04:41] <dario> i have just atached a newhard disk to my comp
[04:41] <dario> but i don't see it in media because i need to format me
[04:41] <dario> format it
[04:41] <ubuntu__> hi, does moving partitions with grub lead to the OS not booting
[04:41] <dario> how can i format the disk so i can use it as free space
[04:42] <dario> ?
[04:42] <Jucato> aldin: Firefox has its settings for Font colors: Edit menu -> Preferences -> Content options
[04:42] <AutoMatriX> Hi to all
[04:42] <aldin> dario, which partiton and which filesystem?
[04:42] <dario> humm i'm new to linux
[04:42] <dario> i have the os on a disk
[04:43] <dario> and i would like to use this new disk as free space
[04:43] <aldin> dario, are u on linux?
[04:43] <dario> yes
[04:43] <dario> atm
[04:43] <aldin> dario, sudo fdisk -l
[04:43] <aldin> type it in konsole 'sudo fdisk -l'
[04:44] <dario> i did it
[04:44] <aldin> dario, what is it say, please copy/paste it on pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org and give as link on that
[04:45] <aldin> Jucato, still cant have white color fonts on File, Edit - when pressed
[04:45] <dario> yes now sorry but i can't understand you ;)
[04:45] <Cnl_Delta> Hi has anyone done partition movement in grub and reboot with the grub menu load, the S splash screen load and then nothing else happened
[04:46] <aldin> dario, what u dont understand
[04:46] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Sorry for asking mate, but did you have any progress with that drive of yours?
[04:46] <Jucato> aldin: ah that... not sure if you could configure that
[04:46] <thirdcoast> Hi, I am having trouble with synaptic package manage. Whenever I try to install a program I get a message about sub-process /urs/bin/dpkg can anyone tell me how to fix this error
[04:46] <Alarm> not at all dude, give me a second please
[04:46] <dario> i wrote sudo fdisk -l
[04:46] <dario> and now i can see all my disks
[04:46] <dario> now what should i do
[04:46] <dario> :)
[04:46] <aldin> dario, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:47] <aldin> dario, copy it on that site and send us link
[04:47] <dario> ha ok just a moment
[04:48] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19284/
[04:48] <weswh-work> I am trying to get the latest version of ktorrent on my system. I installed the 2.1.4 .deb from their website, and it said it was downgrading the package, and the update manager said it had a more recent one. So I reinstalled that one - but looking at the version...
[04:48] <dario> i need the one with 122gb of space
[04:48] <weswh-work> it's 2.1-0ubuntu2, which certainly seems like less to me...
[04:49] <weswh-work> any ideas?
[04:49] <BenPA> dthacker ... are you there?
[04:49] <weswh-work> oh, I guess the .deb I had wasn't for 2.1.4
[04:49] <aldin> dario, do u want to have only one parttion or u want as it is
[04:50] <aldin> dario, on this 122gb
[04:50] <dario> humm i want to do one single partition of all that 122gb
[04:51] <aldin> dario, ok, so u are sure of that, dont have any important data on it?
[04:51] <dario> no
[04:51] <liam> hello
[04:51] <dario> i can format it with no problems :)
[04:51] <aldin> dario, where is /boot/grub/ is it on this 80G
[04:51] <BenPA> !dthacker
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dthacker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <aldin> dario, to see that type 'cd /'
[04:52] <dario> one moment
[04:52] <dario> yes the grub is on the one with 80gb
[04:52] <aldin> dario 'df -h /' type that
[04:52] <dario> i do the boot from that whe i startup the pc
[04:53] <aldin> dario, ok, if u say, well what FS filesystem do u want on it ext3 or reiser on 122G
[04:53] <nanothief> does anyone know of a program on windows that is similar to klipper?
[04:54] <dario> humm i need that disk for emule and for downloads
[04:54] <dario> in general
[04:54] <dario> can you tell me what is the best?
[04:54] <aldin> dario, do u want to see it from windows?
[04:54] <aldin> dario, btw are u from balkans?
[04:54] <dario> i'm from italy
[04:54] <dario> :D
[04:55] <icecruncher> anyone, my google talk is not connecting with pidgin
[04:55] <aldin> i have friend named dario hehe, ai am from Bosnia
[04:55] <dario> ho good
[04:55] <dario> so
[04:55] <aldin> dario, ok, so do u want to be able to see it form windos or not
[04:55] <dario> humm
[04:55] <dario> i have also windows
[04:55] <aldin> icecruncher, try gaim/jabber
[04:55] <dario> on this pc
[04:56] <dthacker> BenPA: whats up
[04:56] <icecruncher> aldin: i did, not working
[04:56] <dario> so if i can use it also in windows it is a good thing
[04:56] <aldin> icecruncher, ok, just suggestion... if gmail/firefox working atm?
[04:56] <dario> i think no
[04:56] <dario> i will use it only on linux :D
[04:56] <aldin> dario, hmm ok then ext3 is nice
[04:57] <aldin> dario, do this
[04:57] <dario> tell me :)
[04:57] <BenPA> I found the icon for the home folder in the Konq but I am not sure how to get it to the task bar
[04:57] <icecruncher> aldin: yes
[04:57] <aldin> dario, 'sudo umount /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5'
[04:58] <dthacker> BenPA: Just put an extra konq icon in the taskbar, then right click on it to change the icon.
[04:58] <aldin> icecruncher, sorry i dont know.... just tried to help as much as i knew
[04:58] <aldin> icecruncher, is gtalk on windows working, btw is it worked before?
[04:59] <dario> umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[04:59] <dario> umount: /dev/sda2: not mounted
[04:59] <dario> umount: /dev/sda5: not mounted
[04:59] <icecruncher> aldin: don't use win, and yes it worked before, on kopete
[04:59] <aldin> dario, thats ok, i just took meassueres hehe
[04:59] <dario> this was the output
[04:59] <aldin> icecruncher, good luck dont know much to say
[05:00] <icecruncher> aldin: thnks
[05:00] <aldin> dario, now type sudo cfdisk
[05:00] <aldin> dario, btw are u on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:00] <dario> now
[05:00] <dario> kubuntu
[05:00] <aldin> dario, yes type it now
[05:01] <dthacker> !restricted
[05:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:01] <dario> and now?
[05:01] <aldin> dario, do u see some partitons?
[05:01] <dario> yes sda1 and sda5
[05:01] <aldin> dario, ok, now delete them
[05:01] <dario> on of 3gb
[05:01] <dario> one of 3 gb
[05:02] <dario> and one of 119
[05:02] <aldin> dario, just hurry up gotta go hehe
[05:02] <dario> i did it
[05:02] <aldin> dario in cfdisk windows u will find delete, do u see it?
[05:02] <aldin> both?
[05:02] <dario> yes
[05:02] <aldin> so now should say freespace
[05:03] <dario> yes
[05:03] <dario> now i do new
[05:03] <aldin> dario, good now use 'new'
[05:03] <xite> how do i add win entry to grub...ive xp on hdb5 n ubuntu on hdb2
[05:03] <dario> primary or logical?
[05:03] <aldin> primary, if u are going to have only one
[05:04] <dthacker> hmmm, these restricted instructions seem made for gnome.  Does someone have a link to add restrictied codecs to Kubuntu?
[05:04] <dario> ok
[05:04] <xite> hdb2 is primary n hdb5 is logical i think
[05:04] <dario> should i leave some mb of freespace
[05:04] <dario> ?
[05:04] <dario> as for windows
[05:04] <Jucato> dthacker: which instructions are you reading? and which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[05:04] <aldin> dario, u sadi u want all that space?
[05:04] <aldin> *said
[05:04] <dario> yes
[05:04] <dario> but i know that windows need something as 8mb of freespace
[05:05] <aldin> dario, no u dont need to leave free space
[05:05] <dario> is the same for linux?
[05:05] <dthacker> Jucato: instructions, the first link on the instruction Factoid.  Version 7.04
[05:05] <aldin> dario, just keep going next
[05:05] <dario> i did it
[05:05] <aldin> dario, now 'write' it
[05:05] <Jucato> dthacker: ah for Kubuntu 7.04 it is much simpler. install the package libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:06] <dario> it finded a nes support
[05:06] <dthacker> Jucato: will that work with kaffiene or will I need to install another player?
[05:06] <aldin> dario, ? i did understand u well
[05:06] <Jucato> that will work with kaffeine and amarok
[05:06] <dario> *new
[05:06] <Jucato> dthacker: both of them use Xine
[05:06] <dario> linux finded a new support :D
[05:06] <dthacker> Jucato: tnx, installling now
[05:06] <dario> win i did write
[05:07] <luca> hi everyone
[05:07] <aldin> dthacker, 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'
[05:07] <Jucato> dthacker: the only other thing you would need is the w32codecs
[05:07] <Jucato> !w32codecs | dthacker
[05:07] <ubotu> dthacker: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:07] <aldin> dario, now exit
[05:07] <aldin> dario, quit
[05:07] <Jucato> aldin: same thing
[05:07] <luca> does anyone know how to change the default file browser (not internet) from konqueror to dolphin?
[05:07] <dario> i did
[05:07] <xite> how do i add win entry to grub...ive xp on hdb5 n ubuntu on hdb2
[05:07] <Jucato> aldin: on Feisty, libxine-extracodecs = libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:07] <aldin> Jucato, libxine1-ffmpe and extracodec?
[05:07] <aldin> Jucato, if u say so...
[05:07] <The_Machine> If i'm having no luck ?connecting to wireless with Knetworkmanager, what else might I try
[05:07] <Jucato> aldin: on Feisty, libxine-extracodecs just installs libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:08] <Jucato> (they're phasing out libxine-extracodecs)
[05:08] <aldin> dario, now typ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[05:08] <dario> ok
[05:08] <dario> one momente
[05:08] <ubuntu> quit
[05:08] <liam> luca, just dont load knoqueror. load dolphin instead
[05:08] <aldin> dario, and sendit on pastebin
[05:08] <luca> liam I know, but I mean when using alt+f2 :)
[05:09] <Jucato> luca: in Konqueror, Settings menu -> COnfigure KOnqueror -> File Associations -> inode -> directory
[05:09] <dthacker> Jucato: what repository do I need to enable for libxine-ffmpeg1?
[05:09] <Jucato> set the default app to dolphin
[05:09] <luca> jucato: thanks!
[05:09] <Jucato> dthacker: nothing. it's in main
[05:09] <Jucato> dthacker: and it's libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:09] <Jucato> not libxine-ffmpeg1
[05:09] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19286/
[05:09] <liam> uninstall knqueror
[05:09] <aldin> dario, ?
[05:09] <aldin> dario, oh ok u were late hehe
[05:10] <Jucato> liam: um.. don't
[05:10] <roadfish> How can I startup firestarter without a password? I added firestarter to /etc/sudoers. But when I "sudo firestarter" then I get "Xlib: connection refused by server ... No protocol specified". What am I doing wrong?
[05:10] <dario> hehe :)
[05:10] <aldin> dario, good as u see there is only one partiton now
[05:10] <Jucato> roadfish: try using kdesu instead of sudo?
[05:10] <dario> yes
[05:10] <The_Machine> Does anyone know a solution the the "battery not present" problem with laptops?
[05:10] <dario> it is true
[05:10] <liam> why? bad things happen?
[05:10] <aldin> dario, now do this 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1'
[05:11] <roadfish> Jucato: I tried kdesu but it asks for a password. How can I get "kdesu firestarter" to not prompt me fore a password?
[05:11] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  no man i didnt manage, i gave up actually , i thought that i can live with pmount before i will destroy my HD by  trying to fix it and turning it on/off 10000 times
[05:11] <dario> i'm doing it
[05:11] <aldin> dario, ok, u are almost capmione hehe
[05:11] <weswh-work> anyone know of a reference that shows you how to make .deb packages? from source i presume
[05:11] <Jucato> liam: the kubuntu-desktop metapackage will be removed also, which may cause some upgrading problems later on. also, luca was asking about changing the default file manager, so he/she probably still needs konqueror for other things
[05:11] <dario> what is a capmione
[05:11] <aldin> weswh-work, i know sudo apt.get install checkinstall
[05:11] <liam> ah right, klkl
[05:11] <soulrider_> !compiling | weswh-work
[05:11] <ubotu> weswh-work: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:12] <aldin> dario, campione, perdono
[05:12] <dario> ho
[05:12] <dario> :D
[05:12] <dario> thank you
[05:12] <Jucato> !packaging | weswh-work
[05:12] <ubotu> weswh-work: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[05:12] <aldin> dario, np, is it done?
[05:12] <soulrider_> Jucato: if you have a minute later i would like to talk to you a bit about something
[05:12] <dario> yes
[05:12] <dario> done
[05:12] <weswh-work> sweet
[05:12] <Jucato> soulrider_: I have a minute right now
[05:13] <aldin> dario, now type 'mkdir /media/data'
[05:13] <roadfish> how can I get "firestarter" to start without prompting me for a password?
[05:13] <dario> it didn't nothing
[05:13] <aldin> dario, after that type: 'sudo mount /dev/sda1/ /media/data'
[05:13] <Jucato> hmm...
[05:13] <aldin> dario, it did make directory in /media
[05:14] <soulrider_> Jucato: ok, i know youve been int he devel channe a lot, so maybe you know what i should do firt
[05:14] <soulrider_> Ju
[05:14] <dthacker> I'm attempting to play a commercial DVD with Kaffeine, it says the source can't be read.  what should I try?
[05:14] <soulrider_> Jucato: im not sure if the same thing happens here, but here internet acces is slow and expensive
[05:14] <Jucato> !dvd | dthacker
[05:14] <dario> i did it
[05:14] <ubotu> dthacker: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:14] <dario> all
[05:14] <boyee> hi all.
[05:14] <aldin> dario now type df -Th /media/data
[05:14] <Jucato> dthacker: I think you need the libdvdcss2 thingy
[05:14] <soulrider_> Jucato: i see lots of people that wanna switch but cant because getting packages without internet connection i a ^%#
[05:14] <boyee> !nvidia
[05:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I actually did find out that's a kernel bug that causes disconnecting devices
[05:14] <roadfish> How can I startup firestarter without a password? I added firestarter to /etc/sudoers. But when I "sudo firestarter" then I get "Xlib: connection refused by server ... No protocol specified". What am I doing wrong?
[05:14] <Jucato> !aptoncd | soulrider_
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <dario> i did it
[05:15] <Jucato> bah sorry
[05:15] <soulrider_> Jucato: i thought maybe we (or someone) should start doign somethin like that
[05:15] <Alarm> honestly i aint got any clue
[05:15] <soulrider_> but for KDE
[05:15] <aldin> dario, what it says?
[05:15] <dario> nothing
[05:15] <soulrider_> i tried aptoncd and it depends on half of gnome...
[05:15] <roadfish> (sorry I meant to ask this on another IRC channel)
[05:15] <aldin> jesam
[05:15] <aldin> pardon
[05:15] <aldin> dario, ?
[05:15] <Jucato> soulrider_: seen this? http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[05:15] <dario> nothing
[05:15] <soulrider_> Jucato: and the options when i tried them werent that good
[05:15] <dario> it doesn't say nothing
[05:15] <boyee> any one using the asus a6tc notebook?
[05:15] <Jucato> ah
[05:16] <|ericsson|> Alarm: there are experimental workarounds for fixing it, if you are interested in trying
[05:16] <kai> is there any one here that uses mysql??
[05:16] <soulrider_> Jucato: it would be nice if it knew what packages are there by default, or if you could import someones apt database
[05:16] <|ericsson|> kai: probably a rather high percentage
[05:16] <dario> i write it but nothing
[05:16] <aldin> dario, lets type 'df -Th'  and send it on pastebin
[05:16] <The_Machine> If i'm having no luck connecting to wireless with Knetworkmanager, what else might I try?
[05:17] <kai> Im sorry, I meant I need help with someting, Im not sure where Im goin wrong
[05:17] <Jucato> soulrider_: hm... it really sounds like a good idea. but I unfortunately don't have the time, resources, or knowledge to help. but you're right, having an offline/CD source for apps is a much needed feature/project
[05:17] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19287/
[05:17] <soulrider_> Jucato:  who should i talk to to get it going ?
[05:18] <aldin> dario, here is mine http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19288/
[05:18] <soulrider_> i can program in java and im learning c++ but i dont think i could be of much help
[05:18] <kai> I makign a simple table in my script but I keep gettiung this weird error
[05:18] <dario> and ? :)
[05:18] <kai> soulrider_: how long you been into java?
[05:18] <Jucato> soulrider_: you can either ask #kubuntu-devel or better yet #ubuntu-motu (and there might be some already similar projects, just not sure)
[05:18] <Jucato> soulrider_: just tell them that you're interested in a KDE-centric CD or something
[05:18] <soulrider_> kai: but more than a year, im not really pro, but i can manage to do things
[05:18] <aldin> dario, ok, are u sure it finished with formatting sda1?
[05:19] <|ericsson|> The_Machine: /j ubuntu-motu
[05:19] <dario> yes
[05:19] <vprints> Hey guys!
[05:19] <soulrider_> k Jucato i will
[05:19] <Jucato> soulrider_: er... if you are thinking of a kde-centric project that is :)
[05:19] <kai> soulrider_: mean and you are at the spot I been doin java for about a year to
[05:19] <aldin> dario, lets go again, jsut sec
[05:19] <vprints> Gimp refuses to print anything in kubuntu
[05:19] <soulrider_> Jucato: it would be nice if it were for KDE, yes
[05:19] <Jucato> soulrider_: I guess the guys at -motu would know better
[05:19] <kai> soulrider_: Im goin for my cert on the 17th this month
[05:19] <vprints> it's set for lp, but how to set it for cups ?
[05:20] <kai> soulrider_: can you take a look at something for me, you can help me I'm sure
[05:20] <soulrider_> kai:  good luck
[05:20] <soulrider_> kai:  sure
[05:20] <LHoT> I want to uninstall Beryl. I have no idea how to uninstall stuff in Linux.
[05:20] <kai> soulrider_: its s imple slq line and Idk where its wring at all
[05:21] <soulrider_> kai: i need to go ahve lunch, be back in a few mins
[05:21] <kai> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19290/
[05:22] <kai> take a look at that real quick I know its a simple error It keeps giving me error 1065 @ ')'
[05:22] <dario> i closed the conse
[05:22] <dario> and reopened it
[05:22] <kai> they have a java channel
[05:22] <kai> nice
[05:22] <dario> now if i write sudo mount /dev/sda1/ /media/data
[05:22] <dario> it says
[05:22] <kai> Jucato: how can I join it
[05:23] <dthacker> Jucato: that pkg is not found at seveas mirrors
[05:23] <Jucato> kai: I'm not sure if there's a java channel actually. I was just suggesting you and soulrider take the discussion somewhere else ;)
[05:23] <dario> mount: mount point /media/data does not exist
[05:23] <Jucato> dthacker: libdvdcss2?
[05:24] <dthacker> Yes, I've put his repository in for Feist, and adept is not seeing it.
[05:24] <dthacker> after update
[05:24] <aldin> dario, ar u there
[05:24] <dario> yes
[05:24] <dario> i'm here
[05:24] <aldin> dario, here u go http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19291/ just follow that
[05:24] <aldin> dario, and let me know when ur done
[05:24] <gavin__> hiiiii
[05:25] <aldin> dario, ok, i got disconnected...
[05:25] <aldin> dario, so i didn know what was last sentence
[05:25] <kai> Jucato: sorry I was never able to use PM and Im in dire need of help
[05:25] <dario> okok
[05:25] <dario> i'm formatting i think
[05:25] <dario> :D
[05:25] <Jucato> kai: um... soulrider went out to lunch...
[05:25] <kai> Jucato: my problem seem so simple, its for a school prject. my final one to graduat
[05:25] <kai> I know, Im just letting you know
[05:26] <Jucato> :)
[05:26] <dario> nuevo?
[05:26] <dario> can i change it?
[05:26] <Jucato> dthacker: it's there http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/feisty-seveas/all/
[05:27] <|ericsson|> How can I purge all the files for xubuntu if I remove it?
[05:27] <Jucato> dthacker: did you carefully follow the instructions? did you add a correct mirror and didn't just simply copy paste the mirror3.ubuntu.com?
[05:28] <dario> aldin
[05:28] <dario> are yo rhere?
[05:29] <dario> ho aldin
[05:29] <dario> can i change nuevo? in something other
[05:29] <aldin> dario, ?
[05:29] <dario> ?
[05:29] <aldin> dario, is it done?
[05:29] <aldin> dario, yes u can
[05:29] <dario> ok ok
[05:29] <dario> i'm doing it
[05:29] <aldin> dario, ok
[05:31] <dthacker> Jucato: yes, I think the mirror was good becuase adept immediately asked for an update.  I think it detected the new repository
[05:31] <dario> i have a problem
[05:31] <aldin> dario, what problem
[05:31] <dario> he cannot create that folder because of permission denied
[05:31] <dthacker> Jucato: and now I see the package
[05:31] <Jucato> :)
[05:31] <aldin> dario, oh, perdono sudo mkdir /media/dariosfolder
[05:32] <dario> ok i did it
[05:32] <dario> and now
[05:32] <Jucato> and now aldin's gone...
[05:33] <aldin> dario, now mount it 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/folderumade'
[05:34] <dthacker> Jucato: hey, I'm watching a movie,  Thank You!
[05:34] <dario> ops
[05:34] <dario> i created dariosfolder
[05:34] <dario> but its ok
[05:34] <dario> now i mounted it
[05:35] <dario> what should i do now
[05:35] <Jucato> dthacker: glad to be of help :D
[05:35] <aldin> dario, now see if it is really mounted with df -Th /media/dario...
[05:36] <dario> yes it is
[05:36] <dario> now can i use it?
[05:36] <aldin> dario, what it says can u paste it
[05:37] <dario> yes
[05:37] <dario> i pasted it and it said
[05:37] <dario> dario@DarioTux:~$ df -Th /media/dariosfolder
[05:37] <dario> Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:37] <dario> /dev/sda1     ext3    113G  188M  107G   1% /media/dariosfolder
[05:38] <LHoT> sorry bout that
[05:38] <jd823592> Hi all, i would like to ask you if there is any chance that there will be GNOME/KDE GRUB/LILO(GRAPHICAL/TEXT) chose when installing UBUNTU .... (it would be good because i like the possibility of switching KDE for GNOME and viaversa and on my other pc i have no access to internet so there is no way how to get the kde package easily)
[05:38] <lwiq> does anyone knows how to install codecs in caffeine and from where to get those codecs?
[05:38] <boyee> Hi all
[05:38] <dario> i tried to create a folder in it
[05:38] <boyee> How to install the local deb package?
[05:38] <dario> but i couldn't because i didn't had the permission
[05:39] <boyee> Those package which need anothers from internet.
[05:39] <LHoT> can someone tell me how to uninstall Beryl?
[05:39] <ubuntu_> hi boys...
[05:39] <boyee> Any one help me,Thanks a lot.
[05:39] <aldin> dario, ?
[05:39] <boyee> I need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\
[05:40] <dario> i'm here
[05:40] <Jucato> LHoT: you remove it how you uninstalled it. apt-get or adept
[05:40] <dario> i have another problem
[05:40] <aldin> dario, what
[05:40] <dario> i created it
[05:40] <dario> and it is mounted
[05:40] <dario> but now
[05:40] <Jucato> boyee: right-click on the package -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[05:40] <dario> i don't have permission to write on it
[05:40] <ubuntu_> i ve gt a problem... how can mount my fat32 windows drive on kubuntu??
[05:40] <LHoT> ... total linux noob...
[05:40] <aldin> dario, just sec we will fix it
[05:40] <Jucato> boyee: have you tried searching the repositories (Adept Manager) for what you are trying to install?
[05:40] <LHoT> so it'd be
[05:41] <soulrider> jd823592: you choose what you want when youre loggin in, you dont need another grub
[05:41] <aldin> dario, that is normal
[05:41] <Jucato> LHoT: how did you install it?
[05:41] <LHoT> apt-get
[05:41] <soulrider> boyee: just ask
[05:41] <dario> ok
[05:41] <Jucato> LHoT: then "sudo apt-get remove <whatever>"
[05:41] <dario> if it is normal :D
[05:41] <aldin> dario, can u pastebin df -Th
[05:41] <LHoT> okay
[05:41] <Jucato> soulrider: he already did... in a way
[05:42] <LHoT> !justask | boyee
[05:42] <ubotu> boyee: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:42] <Jucato> jd823592: if you have both KDE and GNOME installed, you can choose which of the two you login to at the login screen.
[05:42] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19292/
[05:42] <aldin> dario, it is "normal" cause u mounted it as superuser/administrato with sudo
[05:42] <danny500> I'm back :D and running 7.04 :D:D:D:D:D
[05:42] <danny500> um I'm getting one problem though
[05:43] <danny500> my screen keeps flashing for some reason, it's like it's trying to show a game or some thing but can't
[05:43] <aldin> dario, just sec
[05:44] <jd823592> soulrider: it seems to me you misundertood: I wanted to know if while installing the OS there is choice of GRUB or LILO in GRAPHICAL or TEXT version and then choice if i want to install KDE or GNOME or both ... (all these things as a part of the installation so you wouldnt need to download any of these yourself)
[05:44] <soulrider> ohh jd823592 i understand
[05:44] <soulrider> unfortunately there isnt
[05:44] <aldin> dario, try this 'sudo konqueror /media/dariosfolder' and write some files on it
[05:45] <soulrider> at least not that i know of
[05:45] <Jucato> jd823592: you need the DVD installer for that I think
[05:45] <jd823592> ok then i misunderstood ... sorry
[05:45] <aldin> dario, we will make it writable but i have to go for a 10mins will u be here?
[05:45] <Jucato> but GRUB is used by default, no matter which installer you use
[05:45] <jd823592> but the DVD aint free is it?
[05:45] <Jucato> not shipped, if that's what you mean
[05:45] <Jucato> hm... wait
[05:45] <dario> ok
[05:45] <dario> it works
[05:46] <dario> i can write on it
[05:46] <aldin> dario, u see hehe, good, well see u later or u can aske here for ext3 rw, till i come back
[05:46] <dario> but do i have permission with non sudo command?
[05:46] <aldin> dario, for now u dont have that permison
[05:46] <soulrider> jd823592: you can download it for free, sure, but if you want it mailed to you youre gonna ahve to pay a bit
[05:46] <jd823592> GRUB is not a problem but i would like to have KDE and GNOME ... i will have to do it the harder way
[05:46] <aldin> dario, see u about 10mins ok
[05:46] <dario> ok
[05:47] <dario> if i could resolve the problem i will be here
[05:47] <Jucato> jd823592: hm.. they don't ship the DVD. but you can still download it
[05:47] <soulrider> jd823592: you can just do 'sudo aptitude install kde' an dinstall kde if you have gnome i think
[05:47] <dario> couldn't
[05:47] <soulrider> and the other way round too
[05:47] <jd823592> the problem is I do not have a connection to the net of my own
[05:48] <dario> hi all
[05:48] <dario> then
[05:48] <NiceGuyUK> jd823592: sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop for GNOME
[05:48] <NiceGuyUK> jd823592: sudo aptitude install kde-desktop for KDE
[05:48] <dario> can someone tell me how can i get permission to write on this disk
[05:48] <dario> ?
[05:48] <Jucato> er.. there is not kde-desktop package NiceGuyUK
[05:48] <fdoving> NiceGuyUK: it's actuall kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop :)
[05:48] <jd823592> on what if i have UBUNTU cd and KUBUNTU cd ... is it possible to kind of upgrade installed UBUNUTU by the KUBUNTU to UBUNTU with KDE and GNOME? :D
[05:48] <NiceGuyUK> ah, my mistake ;)
[05:49] <Jucato> jd823592: it's possible, but you have to download the Alternate Install CDs, not the Desktop (Live) CDs
[05:49] <fdoving> jd823592: if you ahve the alternate install cds you can first install one of them, then add the other and install the second desktop environment from the second cd.
[05:49] <NiceGuyUK> does make me wonder though - the number of OSes that *assume* you have a net connection
[05:49] <dario> pls tell me how can i get permission to write on the disk i just created with sudo without using sudo command and from the normal browser
[05:50] <NiceGuyUK> dario: you'd need to use sudo to fix the permissions so you can use it non-sudo
[05:50] <dario> ok
[05:50] <dario> the tell me
[05:50] <dario> *then
[05:50] <Jucato> NiceGuyUK: not most... only the 1 CD distros (referring to GNU/Linux OS's)
[05:50] <dario> what should i do
[05:50] <ubuntu_> !ntfs
[05:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:51] <jd823592> i am not sure if i get it... the alternate install cd is exactly what? :) ... there is one shippment of Ubuntu 7.04 and Kubuntu 7.04 heading to my home ...are these cds sufficiente
[05:51] <NiceGuyUK> dario: what is the drive mounted as?
[05:51] <Jucato> jd823592: um..no. the ones being shipped are the Desktop CD's
[05:51] <dario> dariosfolder
[05:51] <Jucato> jd823592: Desktop CD = Live CD with Graphical installer. Alternate Install CD = text based installer with more options
[05:51] <dario>  /media/dariosfolder
[05:51] <NiceGuyUK> dario: is it an external disk ?
[05:51] <Jucato> jd823592: you cannot use the Desktop CD as an offline (no internet connection) source
[05:51] <dario> no
[05:52] <dario> internal sata
[05:52] <NiceGuyUK> dario: what format? ext2, ext3, windows?
[05:52] <dario> ext3
[05:52] <jd823592> oh .. alright then i guess the shipment was useless ... my fault
[05:52] <jeroen_> hi all i have a question , ive joined a club and have my own site, but it wont show the inlog apellet ...can someone help me
[05:52] <NiceGuyUK> !paste
[05:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:53] <NiceGuyUK> dario: can you paste you /etc/fstab file to the pastebin above, and give me the url of the paste?
[05:53] <Jucato> jd823592: well, not entirely useless... you can at least install one of them :)
[05:53] <jd823592> I would even purchase the UBUNTU dvd but i am not sure if it is possible for my country
[05:53] <Jucato> (and give your other CD's away)
[05:53] <dthacker> jd823592: not useless, you can always pass them on.  Or give them to someone to copy.
[05:54] <jd823592> Jucato: sure I can but the second is quite redundant then :) ... i will have to switch between them in grub
[05:54] <dthacker> is there a LAMP metapackage?
[05:54] <Jucato> !lamp | dthacker
[05:54] <ubotu> dthacker: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:54] <dario> humm
[05:54] <jd823592> Yes that would be good if i knew someone who is interested in LINUX
[05:54] <dario> wgat us /etc/fstab
[05:54] <dario> what is /etc/fstab
[05:55] <NiceGuyUK> dario: type "cat /etc/fstab" (without the quotes) in a console window
[05:55] <adaptr> !fstab
[05:55] <jd823592> the society i am in would rather buy WIN than try LINUX
[05:55] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:56] <marie_> Hello
[05:56] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19296/
[05:56] <dario> here it is
[05:56] <NiceGuyUK> thx
[05:57] <jd823592> i will have a look if its possible to get UBUNTU, KUBUNTU DVD there
[05:57] <marie_> I lost keyboard accessas sson as I get into X, I had to create a new session with new username, can someone help me please?
[05:58] <jd823592> but i still cant see the difference between Desktop v. and the "Alternate"
[05:59] <marie_> someone said to me that I have to remove all me .kde files so I would have to redo all my setting, is there not an other waty to deal this issue?
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> dario: hmm, it seems /media/dariofolder is a directory not a drive
[05:59] <rmd_> i can't find the theme manager in kubuntu...
[05:59] <Jucato> !changethemes | rmd_
[05:59] <ubotu> rmd_: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:59] <dario> humm
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> dario: so try "sudo chown -r dario /media/dariofolder"
[05:59] <dario> yes it is the directory
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> dario: and "sudo chgrp -r /media/dariofolder"
[05:59] <dario> ccreated in the drive i just mounted
[06:00] <rmd_> why would i use gnome themes in kde?
[06:00] <NiceGuyUK> that changes its owner and group to yourself
[06:00] <Jucato> jd823592: Desktop CD = Live CD, you can run a full Kubuntu system from the CD, without installing anything on the hard disk.
[06:00] <Jucato> rmd_: read the second sentence
[06:00] <slougi> rmd_: read the whole thing
[06:00] <sivaji> !pastebin
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <dario> -r is an invalid option
[06:01] <dario> ;D
[06:01] <Jucato> jd823592: the Desktop CD also has a graphical installer. you can install Kubuntu and browse the internet or do something else with the Live CD at the same time. However, the options on the Desktop CD are very very basic
[06:01] <rmd_> i'm looking at menu-system settings-appearance, though.  and ther eis no theme manager to install new themes, as per the kde handbook
[06:01] <marie_> I losted access to my kde session - keaboard do not respond as soon as X start - Does anyone had experience this issue before?
[06:01] <jd823592> Jucato: this must have changed since 5.10 ... one friend of mine gave me requested cd with UBUNTU 5.10 and there were to CDs ... one installable and second LIVE
[06:01] <NiceGuyUK> dario: sorry, thats R not r
[06:01] <Jucato> rmd_: did you read the linked page?
[06:01] <fdoving> rmd_: kmenu -> run command 'kcontrol' try searching there.
[06:01] <Jucato> jd823592: yes. it has changed since Dapper (6.06)
[06:02] <Jucato> jd823592: the installable CD is now known as Alternate Install CD
[06:02] <jd823592> oh then i am waiting for nothing :)
[06:02] <Jucato> jd823592: the Live CD is now known as Desktop CD but with an added installer
[06:02] <jd823592> how can i get the alternate
[06:02] <Jucato> jd823592: not really, unlike the Breezy (5.10) Live CD's, you can install from the Desktop CD
[06:03] <dario> sudo chgrp -r /media/dariofolder
[06:03] <Jucato> Desktop CD = Live CD + basic GUI installer
[06:03] <dario> sudo chgrp -r /media/dariosfolder
[06:03] <dario> dario@DarioTux:~$ sudo chgrp -R /media/dariosfolder
[06:03] <dario> chgrp: missing operand after `/media/dariosfolder'
[06:03] <NiceGuyUK> dario: -R not -r ;)
[06:03] <jd823592> yeah but as you have mentioned with just basic features
[06:03] <NiceGuyUK> dario: sudo chgrp -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:04] <Jucato> jd823592: I said, basic options. but it installs the full thing
[06:04] <dario> ok
[06:04] <dario> i did
[06:04] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298/
[06:04] <Jucato> jd823592: basic options means you set your partition,your language/location, keyboard, etc.
[06:04] <dario> ok
[06:04] <dario> now it is mine
[06:04] <jd823592> aaaaaaaaaah... so what do you mean by options ... setting the system up may not be that big problem
[06:04] <Cnl_Delta> hi, has anyone here used gparted and then have ubuntu boot up but not allow you to log in?
[06:04] <dario> so the problem is resolved
[06:04] <jd823592> ok
[06:05] <NiceGuyUK> dario: hopefully....
[06:05] <Jucato> jd823592: the Desktop CD installs a full, complete, functional system
[06:05] <dario> aldin i think i solved the problem
[06:05] <Jucato> jd823592: it just does it differently from the ALternate Install CD
[06:05] <aldin> dario: i just got in
[06:05] <aldin> dario: say
[06:05] <jd823592> ok and I am sorry I am sometimes quite slow
[06:05] <dario> now i have the permission on that folder
[06:05] <jd823592> Jucato
[06:05] <jd823592> :
[06:05] <aldin> dario: did u changed ur /etc/fstab
[06:05] <dario> because it created from he user dario(me)
[06:06] <Jucato> jd823592: it's ok
[06:06] <jd823592> what would you set while installing from ALTERNATE
[06:06] <dario> cat /etc/fstab
[06:06] <jd823592> what else is there
[06:06] <dario> i wrote this
[06:06] <aldin> dario: paste it
[06:06] <Jucato> jd823592: you can choose more types of filesystem, you can have LVM/RAID support, you can choose to install a command line (no GUI) system
[06:06] <sivaji> ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298/
[06:06] <Jucato> there's also the OEM option
[06:06] <kai> word son
[06:06] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19296/
[06:07] <aldin> dario: this pastebin is cool isnt it hehe
[06:07] <mcgregor> hi everyone
[06:08] <mcgregor> i have a problem with ktorrent
[06:08] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19299/
[06:08] <mcgregor> can someone help me
[06:08] <dario> now it should be ok
[06:08] <dario> ;D
[06:08] <NiceGuyUK> ok, time for a question of my own ... is there much advantage to be gained from running a 64-bit Ubuntu over a 32-bit one?
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> not unless you're running 4gb or more of ram
[06:09] <aldin> dario: what is this? u dont have sdb partitons nowhere?
[06:09] <jd823592> I would like to have the ALTERNATE anyway... but i cant find out if it is possible to purchase it from my country not to cost a fortune
[06:09] <dario> humm soryy i don't understand
[06:09] <dario> this is
[06:09] <NiceGuyUK> Daisuke_Ido: why the RAM requirement?
[06:09] <dario> cat /etc/fstab
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> NiceGuyUK: a 32 bit os can't use 4gb
[06:09] <jussi01> mcgregor: whats the issue?
[06:09] <mcgregor> can someone help me
[06:09] <dario> ok i understand
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> 3.25 i believe is the max
[06:10] <aldin> dario: give me 'df -Th' again
[06:10] <NiceGuyUK> Daisuke_Ido: are there not performance enhancements (i.e., speed) as well though?
[06:10] <aldin> dario: on paste
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but a 64 bit OS can take advantage of that
[06:10] <mcgregor> jussi01:what?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> there are minor speed differences
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but nothing dealbreaking
[06:10] <slougi> Daisuke_Ido: it can actually
[06:10] <jussi01> mcgregor: whats your problem?
[06:10] <NiceGuyUK> ok, thanks for the heads-up
[06:11] <slougi> 4GB is the max
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> if there's nothing you *absolutely have to have* there's no reason to go to a 64 bit OS
[06:11] <jd823592> Jucato thank you for helping me
[06:11] <Jucato> jd823592: no problem
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> slougi: fair enough, but every system i've seen with 4gb of ram and a 32 bit os shows 3.25gb ram
[06:11] <NiceGuyUK> Daisuke_Ido: not even the bragging rights? ;-P
[06:11] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- sure, tell me that after I've installed the AMD64 version
[06:11] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19300/
[06:11] <dario> here it is
[06:11] <tgc0d3r> I'm at Panera bread and I need to login to my router's admin page at home. I know the IP address at home. How can I do this?
[06:12] <slougi> Daisuke_Ido: that's usually cause a certain amount of ram is reserved for the kernel. e.g. linux by default will with 4GB reserve 1GB of ram for the kernel and leave 3GB for user-space
[06:12] <mcgregor> jussi01:if i get in ktorrent the ubuntu is working like shit
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> slougi: makes sense
[06:12] <Dragnslcr> tgc0d3r- your router shouldn't allow logins from outside anyway
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> mcgregor: limit your upload speed
[06:12] <sivaji> (firefox-bin:5342): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[06:13] <mcgregor> jussi01:i can not get in ktorrent
[06:13] <NiceGuyUK> Dragnslcr: not strictly true, but better to restrict IP, use a non-standard port num and a strong password
[06:13] <tgc0d3r> Dragnslcr: I know that. I can't remember whether or not I enabled remote login.
[06:13] <jussi01> mcgregor: I assume your using kubuntu?
[06:13] <mcgregor> jussi01:yes
[06:14] <dario> aldin are you still alive?
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> and mcgregor?  please watch your langueage
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> language*
[06:14] <aldin> dario: here it says /dev/sdb3 is on "/" but in fstab it is /dev/sda3
[06:14] <mcgregor> ok
[06:14] <mcgregor> i'm sorry
[06:14] <jussi01> mcgregor: what is ktorrent doing badly?
[06:14] <tgc0d3r> I have a very strong password on there. So does anybody know how I can connect to it then?
[06:14] <NiceGuyUK> !amd64
[06:14] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[06:14] <dario> beacause
[06:14] <jussi01> it just doenst start?
[06:14] <dario> i did this before
[06:15] <aldin> dario: lets do it this way
[06:15] <Dragnslcr> tgc0d3r- if you haven't set it to allow connections from the outside, you can't, unless you RDC/VNC in to a computer on the inside
[06:15] <dario> sudo chown -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:15] <dario> and
[06:15] <dario>  sudo chgrp -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:16] <Dragnslcr> tgc0d3r- if you have, I would guess you just go to http://address:port
[06:16] <tgc0d3r> I didn't change the port if I did, but I don't know what the default port is
[06:16] <jussi01> mcgregor: try opening it in a terminal and pastebin the out put. use: ktorrent %i %m -caption "%c" %u as the command....
[06:16] <tgc0d3r> I think I read somewhere it might be :80
[06:17] <Dragnslcr> Depends on the router. First ones I would guess would be 8000 or 8080
[06:17] <xst> How do I get acroread? apt-get doesn't know it :-(
[06:17] <Dragnslcr> If it was port 80, you wouldn't be able to run a web server inside the router
[06:17] <NiceGuyUK> xst: just download it from Adobe's site
[06:17] <NiceGuyUK> xst: it has its own installer
[06:18] <jussi01> xst: you need actual acroread? there are plenty of open source alternnatives
[06:18] <xst> all alternatives sux
[06:18] <xst> especially kpdf
[06:18] <Jucato> !acroread
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <Jucato> bah
[06:18] <NiceGuyUK> !acrobat
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <Jucato> !info acroread
[06:18] <ubotu> Package acroread does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:18] <Jucato> hm..they removed it?
[06:19] <dario> ok aldin
[06:19] <dario> i think the matter is that i wrote the two commands
[06:19] <xst> yes, it seems so :-(
[06:19] <dario>  sudo chgrp -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:19] <dario> sudo chown -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:19] <dario> first the second one and then the first one
[06:19] <NiceGuyUK> xst: just download it from Adobe's site
[06:20] <jussi01> sivaji: try doing sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[06:20] <jussi01> sivaji: then reinstall firefox
[06:20] <mcgregor> jussi01:
[06:20] <mcgregor> Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
[06:20] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:20] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:20] <jussi01> mcgregor: pastebin it
[06:20] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[06:20] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[06:21] <jussi01> !pastebin | mcgregor
[06:21] <mcgregor> Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
[06:21] <ubotu> mcgregor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:21] <aldin> dario: its ok, just sec, i am writing u howto on pastebin, in meantime du this 'sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup'
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:21] <mcgregor> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:21] <jussi01> mcgregor: !!!
[06:21] <mcgregor> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5868' to 'kded'
[06:21] <mcgregor> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:21] <mcgregor> Qt: Warning: ktorrent: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:21] <mcgregor> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[06:21] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed
[06:21] <nuxil> is the kdxocker package broken ?
[06:21] <nuxil> *kxdocker
[06:21] <NiceGuyUK> nuxil: probably, I never got it to work either
[06:21] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | mcgregor, READ THIS
[06:21] <ubotu> mcgregor, READ THIS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:22] <jussi01> nuxil: i had problems with it too
[06:22] <nuxil> hmm.. yea then i guess its broken
[06:23] <dthacker> Jucato: seveas has a nice LAMP meta at his repositor
[06:23] <jussi01> nuxil: kooldocck is a nice alternative
[06:23] <NiceGuyUK> !info kooldock
[06:23] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[06:23] <nuxil> ah.. i'll try it
[06:23] <tsdgeos> xst: may i know why you think kpdf specially sucks?
[06:23] <Jucato> oooh tsdgeos is here :)
[06:24] <xst> kpdf's rendering is really slow and it doesn't support opacity
[06:24] <Jucato> xst: it seems that the acroread package is no longer included in feisty, but is present in other releases
[06:24] <mcgregor> jussi01:what i need to do in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:25] <xst> However, kpdf's print menu is really good
[06:25] <xst> Far better than acroread
[06:25] <Jucato> tsdgeos: I'd have concur with the rendering speed, but I'd have to specify that only on Kubuntu >:)
[06:25] <jussi01> mcgregor: you need to click paste then give me the address.
[06:25] <tsdgeos> Jucato: that's because kpdf in Kubuntu is not kpdf
[06:25] <tsdgeos> just some shit ubuntu developers decided to do
[06:25] <Jucato> tsdgeos: yep :)
[06:26] <jussi01> !language | tsdgeos
[06:26] <ubotu> tsdgeos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:26] <jussi01> :P
[06:26] <tsdgeos> i can't say shit?
[06:26] <Jucato> tsdgeos: kpdf on suse and gentoo seem to be functioning quite well
[06:26] <tsdgeos> i don't know other word for that
[06:26] <Jucato> tsdgeos: not in here :D
[06:26] <Jucato> my favorite: "krap" :D
[06:26] <mcgregor> jussi01:
[06:26] <spitwise> heh
[06:26] <mcgregor> Paste something
[06:27] <mcgregor> Please correct the errors
[06:27] <mcgregor> Your nametheodor
[06:27] <mcgregor>   Syntax
[06:27] <mcgregor>   This field is required.
[06:27] <mcgregor>   Text
[06:27] <mcgregor>    Paste!
[06:27] <mcgregor> 41052172
[06:27] <mcgregor>   2004-2007 Ubuntu Nederland. Ubuntu and Canonical are trademarks of Canonical Ltd.
[06:27] <mcgregor>  Feedback  Legal
[06:27] <Jucato> mcgregor: don't paste in here
[06:27] <spitwise> thats krappy
[06:27] <jussi01> mcgregor: you need to paste the terinal stuff into the box, then click paste
[06:27] <aldin> dario, are u there?
[06:27] <dario> yes
[06:28] <aldin> dario, paste sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[06:28] <dario> and now?
[06:28] <jussi01> mcgregor: you add your name, and the stuff you want me to see, then click paste, and give me the address
[06:28] <Jucato> tsdgeos: wait till xst gets a peek at okular, and he'll quickly change his mind, right? :D
[06:29] <aldin> dario, paste sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[06:29] <tsdgeos> i hope
[06:29] <aldin> dario, give me link to see it
[06:29] <hdxx> mcgregor: past here next time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:29] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19306/
[06:33] <mcgregor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19307/
[06:34] <nuxil> why is there not a "get new theme" like there is get new wallpaper in Kcontroll ?
[06:35] <aldin> dario, is it kubuntu 7.04?
[06:35] <jussi01> mcgregor: Im sorry, I dont know how to fix that error. Maybe someone else will know.
[06:36] <aldin> dario, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19308/
[06:36] <Jucato> nuxil: because the current kde theme manager is a very incomplete (lousy?) implementation of theming
[06:36] <mcgregor> jussi01:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19309/
[06:36] <aldin> dario, ?
[06:37] <dario> ii0m her
[06:37] <egarim> exists any add on that can read(voice in english) the objects of email with thunderbird ?
[06:37] <dario> i'm here
[06:37] <dario> yes
[06:37] <dario> it is
[06:37] <mcgregor> who know to fix this problem ????????????????????
[06:37] <mcgregor> help me
[06:37] <aldin> dario, ok, didi u made backup of fstab
[06:37] <mcgregor> this is my problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19309/
[06:38] <os2mac> has anyone gotten kmobilephone tools working with a razr phone?
[06:38] <dario> yes you told me to write it before
[06:38] <dario> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup
[06:38] <aldin> mcgregor, exit, and sudo command
[06:38] <dario> this?
[06:39] <mek_> hmm, anyone tried to install vmware-server out of the canonical commercial rep?
[06:40] <mcgregor> aldin:what
[06:40] <aldin>  dario, ok, now 'sudo kate /etc/fstab'
[06:40] <hdxx> mcgregor: slovenian?
[06:40] <mcgregor> hdxx:what?
[06:40] <dario> ok
[06:40] <dario> one minute
[06:41] <hdxx> mcgregor: are you from slovenia
[06:41] <mcgregor> no
[06:41] <dario> i did it
[06:41] <mcgregor> hdxx:no
[06:41] <dario> ok
[06:41] <aldin> dario, ok now copy http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19308/ to that file
[06:41] <mcgregor> hdxx:why?
[06:41] <hdxx> mcgregor: when you type nick and : then make a space (press Space)
[06:42] <aldin> dario, before copying delete all
[06:42] <hdxx> mcgregor: like this
[06:42] <aldin> dario, what was in it
[06:42] <hdxx> mcgregor: notlike this
[06:43] <aldin> dario, ?
[06:43] <dario> n
[06:43] <mcgregor> hdxx:ok
[06:43] <dario> ok
[06:43] <dario> i did it
[06:43] <mcgregor> hdxx:you know to fix my problem
[06:43] <aldin> dario, save it and close
[06:44] <aldin> mcgregor, did u listen my advice?
[06:44] <hdxx> mc__: what is you problem
[06:44] <dario> ok
[06:44] <mcgregor> hdxx:this is my problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19309/
[06:44] <dario> and now?
[06:44] <mcgregor> aldin:no
[06:44] <aldin> dario, paste me '/boot/grub/menu.lst' u can open it with kate editor
[06:45] <aldin> mcgregor, dont be root, exit, and type sudo something
[06:45] <mek_> found the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=426026
[06:46] <mcgregor> aldin:what
[06:46] <hdxx> mcgregor: sudo ktorrent
[06:47] <aldin> mcgregor, u can connect to xserver cause u are root@localhost
[06:47] <aldin> mcgregor, type exit
[06:47] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19312/
[06:47] <aldin> dario, find this line it is on bottom kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=a079ec1a-3c43-4f68-af0a-1ffa6906ec68 ro quiet splash
[06:48] <kemit> mdr
[06:48] <dario> ok i finded it
[06:49] <dario> i used find in kat :P
[06:49] <dario> kate
[06:49] <mcgregor> aldin:
[06:49] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor# sudo ktorrent exit
[06:49] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:49] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:49] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[06:49] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[06:49] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:50] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:50] <mcgregor> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:50] <mcgregor> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-6152' to 'kded'
[06:50] <mcgregor> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[06:50] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:50] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:50] <mcgregor> Qt: Warning: ktorrent: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:50] <mcgregor> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[06:50] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed.
[06:53] <mcgregor> aldin:?
[06:53] <dario> i disconnected
[06:53] <dario> he disconnected
[06:53] <dario> but he is coming back
[06:53] <aldin> dario, aru there?
[06:53] <dario> yes
[06:53] <dario> now
[06:54] <dario> i finded the line
[06:54] <mcgregor> aldin:?
[06:54] <aldin> mcgregor, say
[06:54] <aldin> dario, just sec do u have MSN account
[06:54] <dario> yes
[06:54] <mcgregor> aldin:
[06:55] <mcgregor> mcgregor@mcgregor-desktop:~$ sudo su
[06:55] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor# sudo ktorrent exit
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:55] <vbgunz> is there a way to get the verbose boot screen back? the one from Dapper that told you if a service was OK or Failed?
[06:55] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[06:55] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:55] <aldin> mcgregor, type exit till u dont get
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:55] <mcgregor> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:55] <aldin> mcgregor@mgrgor-desktop
[06:55] <mcgregor> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-6152' to 'kded'
[06:55] <mcgregor> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:55] <aldin> mcgregor, dont paste it more
[06:55] <mcgregor> Qt: Warning: ktorrent: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:56] <mcgregor> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[06:56] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed.
[06:56] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor#
[06:56] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor# exit sudo ktorrent
[06:56] <mcgregor> exit
[06:56] <mcgregor> bash: exit: sudo: numeric argument required
[06:56] <aldin> dario, just sec
[06:56] <dario> i'm here
[06:56] <aldin> mcgregor, close that konsole
[06:56] <aldin> on X button
[06:56] <mcgregor> aldin:ok
[06:57] <aldin> mcgregor, why do u want to be able to run ktorrent as root?
[06:57] <aldin> mcgregor, open new konsole
[06:57] <mcgregor> aldin:yes
[06:58] <aldin> mcgregor, just type ktorrent
[06:58] <mcgregor> aldin:
[06:58] <mcgregor> mcgregor@mcgregor-desktop:~$ ktorrent
[06:58] <mcgregor> ktorrent is already running!
[06:58] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed.
[06:58] <aldin> mcgregor, ok type 'killall ktorrent'
[06:59] <mcgregor> aldin:yes
[06:59] <dario> kill is better of window's task menager
[07:00] <dario> task menager is shit
[07:00] <aldin> mcgregor, now type ktorrent
[07:01] <mehmet> hi
[07:01] <mehmet> i deleted partial file :( so i can not update or install packgae :(
[07:01] <aldin> mehmet, hi bro (saraybosna)
[07:01] <aldin> mcgregor, ?
[07:01] <mehmet> aldin:  hi
[07:01] <aldin> dario, we are on standby ok
[07:01] <dario> okok
[07:01] <dario> no problem
[07:01] <aldin> mcgregor, what happened?
[07:01] <hdxx> bosanci :P
[07:02] <boyee> !cvs
[07:02] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[07:02] <aldin> hdxx, wow who u are hehe
[07:02] <boyee> !kdecvs
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdecvs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <hdxx> i'm not bosnian boy, i'm croatian:P
[07:02] <aldin> hdxx, hehe ubuntu-hr, i know bud_ he was in Sarajevo few months ago
[07:03] <aldin> hdxx, mehmet seesm to be turkye
[07:03] <aldin> *seems
[07:03] <hdxx> aldin: maybe:)
[07:03] <boyee> !cvs client
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvs client - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <aldin> mcgregor, ?!?!
[07:04] <Arwen> the cvs client is also called 'cvs' afaik
[07:04] <boyee> what is the name of cvs client for kde?
[07:04] <mehmet> i deleted partial file :( so i can not update or install packgae :(
[07:05] <dthacker> boyee: gui or command line
[07:05] <fdoving> boyee: cervisia
[07:05] <dario> wow aldin you have a problem with this chat
[07:05] <dario> you alwayls crash
[07:05] <aldin> cgregor, ?!?
[07:05] <aldin> dario, damn
[07:05] <aldin> dario, this is keeping me in/out
[07:05] <dthacker> !language
[07:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:06] <dario> i see it
[07:06] <aldin> dthacker, sorry
[07:06] <dario> the log says connection reset by peer
[07:06] <dthacker> aldin: np, just remember :)
[07:06] <phpcode> how to install WINE?
[07:06] <aldin> phpcode, sudo apt-get install wine
[07:06] <aldin> dario, lets go,
[07:06] <dario> ok
[07:07] <Arwen> !wine | phpcode
[07:07] <ubotu> phpcode: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:07] <mcgregor> aldin:it's working very hard
[07:07] <aldin> dario, so, ur disks are SATA
[07:07] <aldin> mcgregor, ?
[07:07] <dario> yes thy are
[07:07] <dario> they
[07:08] <aldin> mcgregor, i dont understand
[07:08] <joe2370> Hi!  Where can I get advice about partitioning prior to doing a new install of Feisty?
[07:08] <mcgregor> aldin:it's working like shit the kubuntu
[07:08] <dthacker> phpcode: the package is called "wine"
[07:08] <aldin> mcgregor, it is working like charm to me... i dont knwowhat is problem?
[07:08] <dthacker> mcgregor: junk, garbage, other words that you may use
[07:09] <joe2370> I expected the installer to either walk me through it or to chose some reasonable defaults.
[07:09] <aldin> dario, lets go on private?
[07:09] <mehmet> i deleted partial file :( so i can not update or install packgae :(
[07:09] <dario> ok if you want
[07:09] <joe2370> Is there a kubuntu installation handbook/howto somewhere?
[07:09] <aldin> dario, are u registered on freenode
[07:09] <fdoving> mehmet: what is it you're trying to do?
[07:10] <dario> no
[07:10] <dario> :(
[07:10] <dario> i'm not
[07:10] <dario> we can use msn
[07:10] <aldin> hmm ok, lest go on MSN aldinkapetanovic@hotmail.com
[07:10] <mehmet> fdoving:  i deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/* :( so i can not update or install any packages :(
[07:10] <dario> ok i will try to add you
[07:11] <mehmet> fdoving: E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[07:11] <fdoving> mehmet: ok. in konsole 'sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial'
[07:11] <fdoving> mehmet: then try again.
[07:11] <aldin> dario, hurry up
[07:11] <mehmet> fdoving:  thankksss
[07:11] <dario> ok
[07:11] <dario> i did it
[07:11] <aldin> ur in
[07:12] <fdoving> joe2370: it's very similar to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[07:13] <joe2370> So nobody knows of a kubuntu installation manual?  I'm looking for recommendations on how to partition my disk.
[07:15] <exconvictriddick> joe: you don't need a manual on how to partition your disk
[07:15] <exconvictriddick> Joe: what do you need help with?
[07:17] <kai> I've seen programs to make ISO's but there nothing inmy menu to use them ie 'kiso' is ther eanything else to creat cd-images
[07:17] <dthacker> kai: do you have K3B
[07:17] <dthacker> ?
[07:17] <ufuk> hi all
[07:17] <joe2370> exconvictriddick: I can't tell how kubuntu intends to partition my disk.  The installer simply says that hda1 will be / and hda5 will be swap.  I assume that this means the installer intends to create at least 5 partitions, including an extended one.  Since I can't tell what it intends to do, I assume I will need to partition the disk manually to ensure that something sensible is done.
[07:18] <kai> dthacker: yes I do
[07:19] <Blissex> joe2370: no. By convention the extended partition is #4, so the configuration will be 3 partitions: 1, 4 and 5.
[07:19] <kai> dthacker: is it already built-in? Do i need to install anything on the back end to make it work?
[07:19] <dthacker> kai: click on the tools menu item at the top of the K3B window.  The menu will show you "Burn CD Image"  select that.
[07:19] <joe2370> exconvictriddick: If there was an installation guide or some other form of documentation that discussed partitioning, then I'd be interested in reading it.  I don't know, for instance, if reiser support is compiled into the kernel or if it is available only as a module.  That would affect what filesystem I could use for which partition.
[07:19] <ernie> joe2370 - what the partioner is doing is correct. It will create / as hda1 and hda5 is swap. Thats Two Partitions.
[07:20] <exconvictriddick> Joe: ubuntu or Kubuntu will only create 2 partition after you tells it to use a unallocated free space... only / and swap partition.
[07:20] <joe2370> Two partitions is hardly what I would call sensible.  That means that if any log files get too big or if the user fills up his home directory, the system will likely lock up.
[07:21] <joe2370> The latter scenario seems rather probable, actually.
[07:21] <kai> dthacker: what about mounting images?
[07:21] <redhat26__> I would like to know ... how to decompress a tar.gz file
[07:21] <kai> Just mount them to a folder as normal?
[07:21] <ernie> Joe - the swap is usually around 2 gig and the rest is the rest . What size disk(s) do you have?
[07:21] <joe2370> ernie: It's a paltry 160GB
[07:21] <fdoving> joe2370: a more likely situation on desktop systems is that you have a full /home and a / with 10G free space because you overestimated the space you needed for / and underestimated the space needed for /home, or vice versa.
[07:22] <dthacker> kai: I usually use K3B to look at isos
[07:22] <ernie> you can always go LVM
[07:22] <joe2370> fdoving: but isn't it better to have that scenario than to have / and /home on the same partition and no free space at all?
[07:22] <exconvictriddick> Joe: well i dont' know what you intend to use kubuntu... mine is 9 gig on / and 2 gig on swap and only use to basic usuage... so if you want more i guess i can't help you.
[07:23] <killermach_> how do i get a list of installed packages that are installed into a text file for use on installing another computer?
[07:23] <fdoving> joe2370: no, there is a built in feature in ext3, that reserves a given percentage of the space to the root user ie. log-files etc. (5% by default). that way you won't get the problem with users filling the disk and everything failing.
[07:23] <kai> dthacker: I wanna make sure I can create cd-images and mount them. Im gunna be some where I maymay not be able to get on the internet
[07:24] <pollyo> ernie: Are there any downsides with LVM that you know of?
[07:24] <fdoving> killermach_: dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt, then user dpkg --set-selections < packagelist.txt
[07:24] <joe2370> fdoving: that's nice, but what if I format / with reiserfs?
[07:24] <killermach_> fdoving: thanks..
[07:24] <dthacker> kai: yes, I think so.  But you should test that and not take my word for it.
[07:25] <fdoving> joe2370: why would you do that? - i think reiserfs got the same feature though.
[07:25] <phpcode> i having a hard time installing flash player. This is the error i get when i follow the readme-fil: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer. .... help?
[07:25] <kai> dthacker: lol, ok
[07:25] <fdoving> phpcode: it doesn't support 64bit.
[07:25] <ernie> pollyo - Well I was told that with a Raid System - its a bit dodgey restoring things.
[07:25] <joe2370> I will accept the defaults and cross my fingers then.
[07:25] <fdoving> phpcode: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:26] <pollyo> ernie: Do they give the option for LVM with the GUI install now?
[07:26] <joe2370> Thanks for all the advice, folks.
[07:26] <dthacker> joe2370: If it's any comfort, I have yet to have a day to day machine blow up because the default partitioning was too small
[07:26] <ernie> joe2370: If you're going to jam up your standard folders with 160G of stuff, you can always add on a drive and put your Disk Hogging stuff - on the extra drive. 160Gig should be absolute buckets
[07:26] <joe2370> dthacker: thanks.  it is, actually.
[07:27] <pollyo> ernie: I know they give you the option with the alternate disk.
[07:27] <ernie> pollyo : yeah - I worked it out one day. I've just redone my raid drives without LVM. So it can be done
[07:27] <joe2370> ernie: the trouble is, this user was using gentoo previously and DID fill up the entire disk with audacity projects.  So I expect it may happen again if I don't notice the disk filling up in time.
[07:28] <ernie> pollyo: Yeah I was meant to say , I've only seen it on the alternative - not sure whats on the desktop version of 7.04
[07:29] <ernie> joe2370: I would imagine they didn't need all of them on there at the same time...
[07:29] <pollyo> BRB
[07:29] <joe2370> I guess the moral of the story is that the default partitioning scheme is at least no worse than what the user would have if he used Windows.
[07:30] <joe2370> ernie: true enough.  But that's a lot of blank DVDs to fill up too.
[07:30] <ernie> joe2370: a ton to loose if the Hard Drive goes up in smoke too
[07:31] <joe2370> ernie: well, it was a RAID array, actually.  But that's what backups are for.
[07:31] <ernie> joe2370: The other thing is you can always throw them onto another folder on another drive, only they have access too
[07:32] <Alarm> hello , does someone know where the nvidia conf file is
[07:32] <joe2370> ernie: a good point.  I may stick a second disk in the box for making manual backups to and/or for storing large sets of data (like those audacity projects).
[07:32] <Alarm> on a webpage its mentioned to edit this file: /etc/modules.d/nvidia , but there is no modules.d dir on my system
[07:33] <eljefe> has anyone had to update their Kubuntu 7.04 yet?  I installed the day after it was released and I've had zero updates on my system.
[07:33] <Cnl_Delta> hey there, after using Gparted to resize winxp, i cannot log into xp or kubuntu, how can i recover kubuntu(i don't have the password to xp admin)
[07:33] <main2> my cybershit p200 is mounted readonly by default, any ideas why? > http://www.pastebin.ca/472538
[07:33] <ernie> joe2370: Yeah I've been down this road. I've setup a raid0 partition for video and I'll have another drive to throw them onto once they've done their converting. I've not tested the speed difference as yet. Its all fun :)
[07:34] <ernie> eljefe: Yes, I have and I had some minor updates. I used the 7.04 alternate disk though. If that makes any difference - I dunno.
[07:35] <eljefe> i don't know either
[07:35] <eljefe> main2: my iPod is Fat32 running Rockbox and it too mounts REad Only, not sure why but its annoying cause I cannot add music
[07:36] <main2> eljefe, sucks huh =/
[07:36] <eljefe> main2: its either a kernel problem or its that the Fat drive has "too many FATs" (File Allocation Tables)... i think that happened once to me on a USB thumb drive.  Sucks is right!
[07:36] <joe2370> ernie: actually, the user was using Edgy on RAID1+LVM2 until a week ago, but the Feisty upgrader didn't like that setup and hosed the entire system.  I'm doing a clean install of 7.04 and accepting only the defaults in the hopes of preventing that from happening again.  The user wants a machine that is essentially "a toaster."  I figure the more I diverge from the defaults, the more handholding the system will need.
[07:37] <main2> eljefe, i might grab a new kernel.. too see...
[07:38] <dthacker> Hi, K3b is complaining that it cannot find the MP3 decoder plugin.  I've installed the libmad0 and libmad0dev packages.  What else do I need to do to fix this?
[07:38] <eljefe> main2: let me know if that fixes anything!  I am looking into _not_ adding outside software whenever possible for this install... so my HAL issue of DVDs not popping up/mounting is going to wait till Kubuntu fixes it, and I was kinda thinking the FAT issue would wait also...
[07:38] <ernie> joe2370: for sure. I removed LVM2 from my setup and just kept it raided. But I've mixed Raid1 and Raid0. So I wont know how the Raid1 partitions will hold up if a drive goes down.
[07:39] <main2> eljefe, www.kernel.org.. my home.. im going to compile one right now
[07:39] <eljefe> i really should look into how compiling a kernel is done... I've been a linux fan for 4 years now and its my profession... and I've never once compiled a kernel
[07:40] <TFrog> anyone here play pysol?
[07:40] <main2> eljefe, thats really a shame
[07:40] <main2> why dont you compile along with me
[07:40] <eljefe> main2: tell me about it!
[07:41] <main2> here, grab this one http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.21.1.tar.bz2
[07:41] <main2> come to #letscompilesomekernels
[07:41] <eljefe> main2: let do it!  except for i am on hold on the phone; if the other side picks up i gotta put the compile on hold
[07:41] <main2> and i tell you what to do =)
[07:41] <eljefe> sweey!
[07:41] <main2> ok, no problem
[07:41] <main2> i have to do the steps anyway
[07:41] <main2> if i have to type the few commands (once in a VT and once in my irc client) no problem at all
[07:42] <eljefe> cool, i am in the channel
[07:42] <ernie> Anyone running 7.04 running a nvidia dual monitor setup? I did have it running, but on reboot one time, it got toasted and I was greeted by the ole flashing cursor...
[07:43] <ernie> I'm running "One Eye" closed at the moment
[07:43] <raxiv> Hey, I'd like to help Kubuntu.. I'm 18 years old, I'm good with web-graphics, and I've been using Linux as a desktop OS for like 2 years. Can someone show me the way? ; ) ( please don't flame! thanks )
[07:44] <fdoving> raxiv: joining #kubuntu-devel is a good start.
[07:44] <raxiv> thank You fdoving!
[07:44] <raxiv> going there right away.
[07:44] <fdoving> raxiv: see you there then :)
[07:44] <raxiv> fdoving: yep!
[07:44] <dthacker> anybody on my K3b libmad issue?
[07:45] <raxiv> dthacker: I'm sorry, I didn't use AudioCD's in years.
[07:46] <ernie> dthacker - I've had the same issue but I've not chased it up yet
[07:46] <stdin> dthacker: trying to burn an audio cd from mp3 files ?
[07:46] <dthacker> ernie: ok, its minor, I'm sure
[07:47] <dthacker> stdin: K3B reports it can't find libmad, even though *i* think it's installed....
[07:48] <stdin> dthacker: to do it you need libk3b2-mp3 installed
[07:49] <dthacker> stdin: got a repository for that?  Adept seems unable to find the -mp3?   (though the libk3b2 shows installed)
[07:49] <ernie> stdin: yep, installing that Lib did the trick
[07:50] <stdin> dthacker: it's in multiverse
[07:50] <stdin> !info libk3b2-mp3
[07:50] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[07:50] <stdin> dthacker: or universe :p
[07:50] <dthacker> trying different search tactic.....
[07:51] <dthacker> lol, you know that "not installed" checkbox can be important....
[07:51] <ernie> dthacker - do a search on k3b in adept manager
[07:52] <ernie> dthacker - that'll do it everytime...
[07:53] <Cnl_Delta> find /boot/grub/menu.lst file not found   <------------what does that mean?
[07:53] <stdin> what's that from?
[07:53] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: are you trying use use grub-gfxboot like i was this morning?
[07:53] <Cnl_Delta> from grub>
[07:54] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: or did you grub break?
[07:54] <kai> Thanx for all your help people
[07:54] <Cnl_Delta> i tried some stuff with gparted, now i cannot log into xp and kubuntu
[07:54] <kai> I gots to dip
[07:54] <Cnl_Delta> ie. resized and moved xp (installed after kubuntu to the end of my HDD
[07:55] <Cnl_Delta> gi can see grub and a windows/kubuntu loadiing after but no log in
[07:55] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: where is your boot partition?
[07:55] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: did you have a separate /boot or not?
[07:55] <stdin> make sure the root is set
[07:55] <Cnl_Delta> i set it to hd(0)
[07:56] <joe2370> There is no acroread package for Feisty?
[07:56] <Cnl_Delta> and it was working fine till the xp resize and move
[07:56] <Ace2016> joe2370: there is you have to install it from the mediubuntu repos
[07:56] <joe2370> Ace2016: oh, ok. thanks
[07:56] <Cnl_Delta> rather (hd0)
[07:56] <stdin> Cnl_Delta: it should be in the form of (hd0,0), that would be the 1st partition of the 1st disk
[07:57] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: so what partition is /boot on now?
[07:57] <Cnl_Delta> well hd (0,0) didn't work when i tried to dual boot but (hd0) did
[07:57] <raxiv> if Your first OS is Windows
[07:57] <stdin> joe2370: or just install kpdf
[07:57] <raxiv> and then You installed Kubuntu
[07:57] <raxiv> then Your boot drive is (hd0,0)
[07:57] <raxiv> not hd(0,0) ;)
[07:57] <Cnl_Delta> i just had one partition for kubuntu and one or swap and then had xp on its wown (set up dual boot with (hd0) )
[07:58] <joe2370> stdin: acroread has some features that kpdf doesn't. IIRC.
[07:58] <Cnl_Delta> xp came second and i did get dual boot working
[07:58] <stdin> joe2370: some, yeah, but not that many
[07:58] <joe2370> Ace2016: do you know where I'd find the URL for the mediubuntu repo?
[07:58] <Cnl_Delta> till i decided kubuntu needed more space
[07:58] <Cnl_Delta> and then used gparted to resize xp and move it to the end of the hdd (xp was flagged as active/boot)
[07:59] <Ace2016> joe2370: deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free   << add that to your sources.list
[07:59] <Cnl_Delta> and well after that, xp ran a check disk when i tried to use it and stopped at a xp screen logo screen without logging me in
[07:59] <joe2370> Ace2016: thanks a bunch
[08:00] <Cnl_Delta> tried kubuntu, kubuntu loaded but the screen went blank before the login prompt could appear (i never saw the log in)
[08:00] <Cnl_Delta> strange thing is before the kubuntu loading screen came, it did a file check but finding swap failed
[08:01] <Ace2016> guess that would happen, you've just completely rearranged the partition table
[08:01] <Cnl_Delta> and the partition table is on the MBR..
[08:02] <Cnl_Delta> which i guess ultimate boot cd / super grub disk could fix..
[08:02] <linux_> hola ubuntu en espaol
[08:02] <linux_> ?
[08:02] <fdoving> !es | linux_
[08:02] <linux_> alguien sabes?
[08:02] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:02] <linux_> gracias
[08:06] <ernie> Cnl_Delta: If you are not a gamer, then running something like VMServer and running windows in that works well...
[08:07] <Cnl_Delta> i had vmware on my mind
[08:07] <Cnl_Delta> just thought i'd keep a spare xp till i had vmware running
[08:08] <raxiv> Virtual PC runned my i386 Kubuntu, and its free.
[08:08] <raxiv> just to let You know :p
[08:08] <ernie> Cnl_Delta: yeah thats a good idea. Installing the Free VMServer on 7.04 isn't trivial, but theres a bucket of info out there on what to do
[08:09] <fdoving> there is also 'kvm' which is a modified qemu, and it's free too.
[08:09] <fdoving> i installed winxp in it just fine.
[08:09] <Cnl_Delta> well thats gggreat but right now i need to restore my partition table to log into kubuntu
[08:10] <Cnl_Delta> so if i ever delete xp (which is flagged as active) what stuff do i have do change (mbr/grub)
[08:11] <Cnl_Delta> aparrently just resizing and moving the xp partition and a shared partition caused both xp and kubuntu to stop me from logging in (grub worked fine)
[08:11] <Tm_T> Xikzasil: you might like to reduce clones
[08:12] <ernie> Cnl_Delta: I'm going to have to wish you good luck on that one. Its 4am here and the wifes noticed I'm still up :) Night all
[08:13] <Cnl_Delta> nigh night ernie
[08:13] <dthacker> night ernie.  getyourfeettobed!
[08:15] <joe2370> Ace2016: sorry to bother you, but do you know which components the mediubuntu repo provides?  main? universe?  I opened the URL in a browser but I can't find any clues.
[08:15] <Tm_T> !medibuntu
[08:15] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:15] <Filthpig> Tm_T: A red hat, maybe?
[08:16] <Tm_T> joe2370: look that one
[08:16] <joe2370> Tm_T: thanks
[08:16] <Ace2016> beet me to it :D
[08:17] <Ace2016> *beat
[08:17] <Tm_T> Filthpig: hard to say, but it's silly anyway
[08:17] <dsmith> great article
[08:17] <dsmith> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/05/ubuntu_review.html
[08:22] <Cugel> Does anyone know/have experience with the Ogle DVD player software?
[08:23] <BloodyTux> hey i need help
[08:24] <BloodyTux> can someone help me, i try to install kubuntu and it freezes at 6% when it says please wait
[08:24] <BloodyTux> i'm dual booting it on a 8gig
[08:25] <BloodyTux> hello?
[08:25] <Cugel> Yeah we're here.
[08:25] <Cugel> Can you start in recovery mode?
[08:25] <BloodyTux> ???
[08:25] <BloodyTux> huh?
[08:26] <Cugel> When you boot Linux, what do you do?
[08:26] <BloodyTux> no, i'm using win2000 but i need to install kubuntu with the alternate cd onto a 8gig
[08:27] <BloodyTux> i got a new pc but i wiped my hardrive bc it only came with a 20 gig
[08:27] <Cugel> Are you sure the CD is not faulty?
[08:27] <BloodyTux> ... idk it was fine a week ago
[08:28] <BloodyTux> ugghhhhhh i hate these stupid win2k irc progs.
[08:28] <Filthpig> Ubuntu uses GNOME, a graphic interface that looks so much like Windows that Bill Gates should be, and probably is, angry. For once someone has copied Microsoft instead of the other way around.
[08:28] <Filthpig> from the article dsmith pasted
[08:29] <Filthpig> ...what? Gnome looks like windows? :|
[08:29] <BloodyTux> ??? kde looks like windows more
[08:29] <Filthpig> hahah, yeah
[08:29] <BloodyTux> windows doesn't have 2 toolbars...
[08:29] <BloodyTux> i should know, im using it right now
[08:29] <Filthpig> hehe
[08:30] <Filthpig> if gnome resembles an operating system, it has to be osx
[08:30] <BloodyTux> yea
[08:30] <ubuntu> no Filthpig, i am using kde
[08:30] <ubuntu> :)
[08:30] <BloodyTux> :( my school project is gonna suck if i don't have a working linux pc
[08:31] <BloodyTux> and my cd burner went with my old pc :(
[08:31] <dsmith> i read that was like hmmmm
[08:31] <dsmith> still a great article to print up and show to the office
[08:32] <BloodyTux> yea
[08:32] <BloodyTux> so does anyone have some tips for me?
[08:32] <BloodyTux> DAI HELP ME!
[08:32] <fdoving> sure, what kind of tip do you want?
[08:33] <fdoving> htop is a nice program. if you want that kind of tip.
[08:33] <BloodyTux> i install kubuntu but it gets stuck on 6% at installing and selecting software
[08:33] <BloodyTux> it just says please wait
[08:33] <fdoving> do you have other cds to test with?
[08:34] <fdoving> i think there is a win install .exe somewhere.
[08:34] <BloodyTux> i have a ubuntu cd but i only have 128mb and its not alternate
[08:34] <BloodyTux> i have simply mepis, slax, knoppix, puppy 2.13, dsl
[08:34] <biovore> yeah.. the normal install dosn't work unless you got 256 or better
[08:34] <dsmith> xbuntu
[08:34] <BloodyTux> santa fe
[08:34] <BloodyTux> and gentoo
[08:34] <dsmith> alternate
[08:34] <biovore> you can install mepis and dist-upgrade :-)
[08:34] <biovore> to feisty
[08:35] <BloodyTux> how do you do that?
[08:35] <fdoving> BloodyTux: hmm.. you can make dsl, mepis and knoppix ubuntu if you want.
[08:35] <biovore> mepis is basicly just ubuntu dapper
[08:35] <BloodyTux> will it take hours after hours?
[08:35] <BloodyTux> yea
[08:35] <Cugel> It does take some time.
[08:35] <BloodyTux> i wanted to use knoppix but its only livecd
[08:35] <hauppage> hi
[08:35] <BloodyTux> so i'm gonna try mepis and get back to you guys
[08:35] <hauppage> how do i change root password / enable root account ?
[08:35] <BloodyTux> once i install it
[08:36] <BloodyTux> so ciao
[08:36] <dsmith> mepis is nice
[08:36] <BloodyTux> i used it for a while then switched to kubuntu
[08:36] <fdoving> !rootsudo | hauppage
[08:36] <ubotu> hauppage: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:36] <BloodyTux> ...
[08:36] <BloodyTux> bbl
[08:36] <biovore> but if your box only has 128 MB of ram.. you probably don't want to run a fancy gui like kde or gnome
[08:36] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, which program does one use to extract/edit  the sountrack of an mpg file ?
 i tryed sudo passwd root but it ask for a pass
[08:36] <BloodyTux> i was running kubuntu with 128 on my old box, and that was worse than this...
[08:37] <BloodyTux> processor wise
[08:37] <biovore> sudo -s
[08:37] <hauppage> (login) not change
[08:37] <BloodyTux> so bbl
[08:37] <biovore> input user password
[08:37] <fdoving> hauppage: it first asks for your current password (sudo style), then it ask for the new root password, and you need to confirm that (enter it twice).
[08:37] <fdoving> hauppage: current password is your user password.
[08:39] <sebbar> hi, my parents use kubuntu, the problem is that every once in a while the ethernet modem (a D-Link 300) stops connecting to the internet. any idea why this might be the case?
[08:41] <dthacker> sebbar: no, I would have to examine the logs
[08:41] <mehmet> hi
[08:41] <qsu> anybody overhere thinking how beryl works
[08:41] <mehmet> i use kubuntu 7.04 . i want to run windows migration tool . How?
[08:42] <fdoving> qsu: you might get better results asking in #ubuntu-effects
[08:42] <biovore> sebbar: adsl sometime has connection issues if you phone line has issues..  Could be that the linux box was unable to connect to the central office and get a DHCPD lease
[08:42] <qsu> no i dont have a problem with beryl its running fine overhere
[08:42] <sebbar> biovore: hmm if that's the case what would you suggest doing?
[08:43] <qsu> but i was wondering why beryl is not used in applicaionts so you get 3d effects in an app instead of windows or cube's fdoving
[08:43] <biovore> well if you modem can't talk to the central office, its your phone line.. you have to pester you ISP
[08:43] <Cugel> I turned off translucency effects, since it seemed to invoke multiple crashes.
[08:43] <mehmet> i use kubuntu 7.04 . i want to run windows migration tool . How?
[08:43] <sebbar> biovore: ok I'll do that :)
[08:44] <fdoving> qsu: no clue, i don't like fancy effects, #ubuntu-effects might provide more insight on this topic.
[08:45] <mehmet> i use kubuntu 7.04 . i want to run windows migration tool . How?
[08:46] <hivemind> Anyone know the screenshot shortcut and where it saves the file?
[08:47] <linux_> espaol por favor?
[08:47] <dthacker> linux !es
[08:47] <fdoving> !es | linux_
[08:47] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:47] <dthacker> hivemind: you can use Ksnapshot
[08:47] <dthacker> Ksnapshot
[08:48] <stdin> hivemind: print screen, and (if it doesn't open KSnapshot) then it's saved in the clipboard buffer
[08:48] <hivemind> Thanks
[08:49] <dthacker> hivemind, that opens ksnapshot on my feisty install
[08:49] <oliver> hello
[08:50] <oliver> anybody?!
[08:50] <fdoving> hi oliver.
[08:51] <stdin> we are watching
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> hi, how can i eject a live kubuntu cd so i can burn another cd?
[08:51] <oliver> hello
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> while the live kubuntu is running
[08:51] <oliver> I didn't think you could :S
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> dang
[08:51] <stdin> Cnl_Delta: you can't really do that, it's like ejecting your hard drive
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> i need it to rescue my kubuntu install
[08:51] <oliver> you might be able to
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> the CD isn't being read
[08:52] <Cnl_Delta> i just need to burn ultimate boot cd to rescue a partition table
[08:52] <oliver> burn another cd fom another computer
[08:52] <oliver> oh so you can't
[08:52] <kinp> LjL thanks for removing my ban (i'm ubuntu).
[08:52] <Cnl_Delta> hmm would re-installing kubuntu fix a broken partition table?
[08:52] <oliver> that's what I did
[08:53] <Cnl_Delta> and what happened on your system oliver?
[08:53] <Rade> I'm trying to use the NVidia driver so I can get opengl support but I'm getting this error:
[08:53] <oliver> well let's just say that I'm using it :D
[08:54] <Rade> The NVidia kernel module has versionj 1.0-8762 but the X module has the version 1.0-8776.  Please make sure the kernel module and all Nvidia components have the same version.
[08:54] <Rade> How do I do that?
[08:54] <Cugel> http://manriki.diggerdogs.com/kubuntu_tee.jpg   -- does anyone have this shirt?
[08:54] <oliver> Rade, sorry I have no experience with this, I'm sure some other people do though if they speak up!
[08:55] <Cnl_Delta> the kubuntu live cd wont allow me to find  /boot/grub/stage1
[08:55] <Cnl_Delta> i get an error 15
[08:55] <oliver> Cugel, I don;t have the t-shirt
[08:55] <oliver> cnl_delta, sounds like a bad copy
[08:55] <eljak> Rade: you enabled nvidia support in kernel? and then you are installing the driver?
[08:55] <Cugel> Just wondering how large '5 x XL' is. That must be _huge_.
[08:55] <Ro0t> Hello
[08:56] <Diable244> can somone help me plz ?
[08:56] <Rade> I followed the instructions at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[08:56] <oliver> Cugel, that would probably be bout 5 times bigger than XL ;)
[08:56] <snake> hi all
[08:56] <oliver> hi
[08:56] <Cugel> Americans are big people.
[08:56] <oliver> !question | Diable244
[08:56] <snake> what can i use to register my screen in a video file
[08:56] <ubotu> Diable244: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:57] <Diable244> Oki, ty
[08:57] <snake> i want a screen capture program but with video
[08:57] <Rade> snake - try searching sourceforge.net
[08:57] <oliver> sorry snake I can;t know
[08:57] <Cnl_Delta> oliver, the partition table on my hdd is busted so the live cd cannot find my current kubuntu instal
[08:57] <oliver> don't*
[08:57] <Diable244> in windows IRC to tell ur current nickname just tape $me
[08:57] <snake> ok thank you
[08:57] <Cnl_Delta> grub appears to work and finds the right os
[08:58] <Cnl_Delta> but the partition table is broken in a way
[08:58] <Diable244> but in Konversation i mean that $ is % but it's doesn't work with %me..
[08:58] <eljak> snake: i remember something called camtasia or camstasia studio
[08:58] <oliver> Delta, I don't know though
[08:58] <Diable244> like to Whois in mIRC, u tape //w $me
[08:58] <Rade> is it possible to use apt-get to install a particular version of a package?
[08:59] <oliver> Rade, can't you typing in sudo apt-get <package including version number>
[09:00] <snake> eljak: thank you
[09:01] <fdoving> Rade: yes you can, almost like oliver says, 'apt-get install packagename=version'
[09:01] <eljak> snake: welcome
[09:01] <fdoving> Rade: you can find the available versions with 'apt-cache policy packagename'
[09:02] <PolitikerNEU> does anybody accidentally know how I can run Metisse under Kubuntu (feisty fawn)?
[09:02] <Diable244> eljak> can i pm u plz ?
[09:03] <eljak> Diable244: yes
[09:03] <Diable244> ty
[09:03] <oliver> Quick question, I have been wondering why my WiFi chip goes into standby even when I'm using it and can I stop it doin it?
[09:04] <Diable244> Sorry Eljak i'm not registred, so can't pm..
[09:04] <Diable244> Eljak >  in windows IRC (mIRC) to tell ur current nickname just tape $me, exemple to whois ur self tape //w $me
[09:04] <Diable244> Eljak > but here $ is replaced by % i think, but when i have done /w %me it's doesn't work..
[09:04] <Alarm> hello , does someone know where the nvidia conf file is
[09:04] <Alarm> on a webpage its mentioned to edit this file: /etc/modules.d/nvidia , but there is no modules.d dir on my system
[09:05] <eljak> Diable244: /me doesnt do what you want?
[09:05] <Cnl_Delta> how do i mount an iso with the kubuntu livecd?
[09:06] <Diable244> Eljak > to whois ur self on mIRC tape ://w $me
[09:06] <Diable244> Eljak > on Konversation i'm searching whith what i replace *me*
[09:06] <eljak> Diable244: check irchelp.org
[09:08] <SRed13> Hello room
[09:08] <Diable244> ty Eljak
[09:08] <SRed13> Any linux pro's in here?
[09:12] <eljak> Diable244: i dont think you can count on finding it coz i tried /help whois with konversation and it lists the commands so i dont think it implements everything
[09:12] <Diable244> Ok ty (
[09:15] <Diable244> ick
[09:16] <draco1889> hello
[09:17] <draco1889> anyone here?
[09:17] <vbgunz> I have gvim installed. I cannot uninstall it automatically with dpkg or apt-get. how do I manually and successfully completely remove it?
[09:18] <Taladan> apt-get remove gvim spits errors?
[09:19] <Taladan> (sudo, I should say)
[09:19] <draco1889> um
[09:19] <draco1889> i have this USB headset that I want to enable
[09:20] <draco1889> but I have no idea where to do that
[09:20] <draco1889> it is detected, according to lsusb
[09:20] <Taladan> draco1889: check alsamixer
[09:20] <PolitikerNEU> I've got a problem with KDE 4 alpha crashing: I cannot login and running kdesktop kwin ... seperately gives me a segmentation fault. What can I do (I use 7.04 on x86_64)
[09:20] <Taladan> assuming you're using alsa
[09:21] <draco1889> Taladan: alsamixer shows the settings for my onboard card
[09:21] <don_> i can get the nvidia drivers to work in 7.04
[09:21] <draco1889> don_: try installing nvidia-glx-new
[09:21] <Taladan> draco1889: *nods* You may have to change which 'card' (read: device) it's using.
[09:22] <Taladan> alsa -c <whatever>
[09:22] <draco1889> ah
[09:22] <Taladan> Also
[09:22] <draco1889> ok, then how do i configure it so that all sounds go to that device
[09:22] <don_> draco1889: i restart x it works but when i restart the computer it just gives me black sreen with a blinking thing at the top of screen
[09:22] <Taladan> If you're going to be primarily using that as your default device, then you'll want to use asoundconf
[09:23] <Taladan> just man asoundconf and it'll tell you how to switch your default device
[09:23] <draco1889> can I make it so that it changes it to default everytime i plug it in
[09:23] <draco1889> and switches back to onboard when i unplug it
[09:23] <don_> and i have tride both nvidia-glx and new both give me probem
[09:23] <draco1889> don_: dunno
[09:23] <Taladan> draco1889: maybe with a script, but you'd have to set up a loop to poll the usb devices every so often.
[09:23] <don_> ok thanx for your time
[09:25] <Taladan> or, if the mount comes across successfully in dmesg, you could have a script that watches for that then switches it over I suppose
[09:25] <draco1889> hmm
[09:25] <draco1889> thanks Taladan
[09:25] <draco1889> i'll do that
[09:26] <Taladan> g'luck with it
[09:28] <Jacko2007> I'm going now
[09:30] <khaije1> irc on bb = sweet
[09:30] <daemon_nio> ciao
[09:32] <kai> wasup again...does any on have any experiance with yahoofetch?
[09:35] <blue|palm> Hi, can anybody tell me if there is a 'total copy' equivalent available on Linux? I can't really find anything
[09:37] <don_> anyone here have a xorg.conf file for nvidia that i can look at AGP card plz
[09:37] <eljak> blue|palm: what do you mean by total copy?
[09:37] <fdoving> blue|palm: what is total copy?
[09:38] <don_> anyone have an xorg.conf file for an AGP card that i can take a look at plz
[09:39] <blue|palm> Total copy is an application
[09:39] <fdoving> yeah, but what does it do?
[09:39] <blue|palm> It alllows you to better control the copying and moving of files in windows
[09:40] <blue|palm> It allows pause/resume/fixing/speed limiting etc.
[09:40] <blue|palm> And if an error occurs it just pauses the copying till you fix the error (happens alot on wifi networks)\
[09:41] <blue|palm> Im looking for an alternative for use in linux: gtk or qt based
[09:45] <fdoving> blue|palm: can't say i'm aware of anything like that.
[09:51] <gan|y|med> hi
[09:52] <gan|y|med> seems like a dumb question, but have updates started for feisty?
[09:52] <stdin> gan|y|med: there have been about 3 (afaik)
[09:52] <Taladan> I haven't seen any yet, but I only upgraded last week.
[09:54] <gan|y|med> thx. i got all the reps in my sources.list apparently, but had only about 3 as well. just wondering
[09:54] <gan|y|med> updates
[09:58] <Alonea> umm, for some reason the external hdd I have plugged in is no longer showing up under /media. I have tried unplugging it and plugging it back in with no luck. When I plug in the usb, the light on the drive pops on like its supposed, but nothing on this end.
[09:59] <stdin> Alonea: look at media:/ (ie, not /media)
[10:01] <Alonea> stdin: ok, thanks. its there. Why isn't it showing up in /media though like it was a few minutes ago?
[10:02] <stdin> no clue, media:/ sometimes shows things that aren't in /media tho
[10:03] <Alonea> stdin: damn....now I have to completely start over again on vmware...it was set to /media for the drive.
[10:03] <eljefe> Alonea: why can't you just point it somewhere else, or remount the drive in /media ?
[10:03] <stdin> Alonea: when it's mounted it will be in /media
[10:04] <stdin> nothing is mounted in media:/, it doesn't really exist
[10:04] <eljefe> stdin: really?  cool
[10:04] <eljefe> oh yeah, media:/
[10:04] <eljefe> i thought you meant /media
[10:05] <stdin> no :p, /media does exist
[10:05] <marseillai> hi
[10:05] <marseillai> i'm looking for help
[10:05] <stdin> ask away
[10:05] <marseillai> i'm french and i have a "complex" question
[10:05] <Alonea> stdin: umm...well, if it knocks off at an inopportune moment, that would be bad...so maybe I should use the media:/
[10:05] <Taladan> media:/ is a...protocol...for lack of a better term...like ftp:/ or http://
[10:06] <stdin> Taladan: kioslave :)
[10:06] <stdin> Alonea: only KDE applications will be able to see media:/
[10:06] <marseillai> so my problem is that during packaging i think i've make a mistake and now when i launch any apps using klauncher (alt+f2) it is launch in a konsole
[10:06] <Alonea> stdin: oh, ok.
[10:07] <Taladan> stdin: :nodnods
[10:07] <Alonea> stdin: ok...it just magically showed up in /media again. *big sigh*
[10:08] <stdin> marseillai: make sure the "Run in terminal window" option isn't checked (under the options button)
[10:08] <stdin> Alonea: it will when it's mounted
[10:09] <marseillai> stdin: it is .... :| don't know what have been change in my configuration. It is check for every application i've alreagy launch in klauncher
[10:10] <marseillai> thanks stdin i'm so stupid i know the answer to this question but didn't think about it
[10:10] <marseillai> i'll try to remove klauncherrc or the name his configuration file has
[10:11] <facugaich> Hi, what C/C++ IDE do you reccomend? I used to use Anjuta but it says its for GNOME
[10:11] <jrick> kdevelop
[10:11] <stdin> facugaich: try kdevelop
[10:11] <eljak> facugaich: did you try kdevelop? or netbeans C/C++ package or eclipse?
[10:12] <marseillai> could someone past his ~/.kde/share/config/klaunchrc for me ?
[10:14] <eljefe> main2: it wouldn't boot :(
[10:14] <fdoving> marseillai: i think you're looking for the [MiniCli]  section in kdesktoprc
[10:14] <fdoving> klauncher isn't what one would think.
[10:16] <marseillai> fdoving: thanks seems to be exactly what i was looking for! :)
[10:18] <marseillai> fdoving: and could you tell me a way to "apply" changes in kdestoprc without restarting kde ?
[10:18] <os2mac> anyone know anything about syncing a mobile phone to kontact?
[10:20] <marseillai> os2mac: kmobilephone or synce-kde and raki if it's a smartphone
[10:21] <luca> good day everyone
[10:21] <luca> someone knows how to remove a bug in kopete which makes lines very spaced when talking to someone using the jabber protocol?
[10:23] <biovore> lines very spaced?
[10:23] <fdoving> marseillai: dcop kdesktop MainApplication-Interface reparseConfiguration
[10:23] <biovore> you mean you get a new line for every space received?
[10:24] <os2mac> marseillai: it's a razr
[10:26] <killermach_> anyone have  a Maxtor OneTouch external drive?  I'm helping someone who just replaced a winbox with a linux box, but they would still like to have the easy "push button" backup
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> killermach_: i think the "push button" backup requires windows software...
[10:28] <luca> biovore yes
[10:28] <luca> sorry was installing pidgin :)
[10:28] <biovore> ^ thats what I use :-)
[10:28] <eljefe> main2: i am back
[10:29] <luca> yeah but I'd like to see that bug purged
[10:29] <frojnd> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  6 00:24:07 2007
[10:29] <frojnd> can someon tell me the solution better tha wait untill tomorrow?
[10:29] <luca> as I think that kopete is waaay better than gaim - still have to see pidgin.
[10:29] <khaije1> Is there a kde equivalent of democracyplayer?
[10:30] <killermach_> Daisuke_Ido: I figure that too.. I am hoping to find a USB udev/hal script that runs on insertion or so
[10:33] <lerneaen_hydra> is there any way to bind keys to functions like play/pause, next track, previous track and so on? there didn't seem to be an option for that in kcontrol
[10:33] <biovore> there is..
[10:34] <Taladan> yes
[10:34] <biovore> On some keyboard the multimedia keys are bound to amarok
[10:34] <Taladan> under system settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard shortcuts
[10:49] <lerneaen_hydra> Taladan: I can't seem to find audio-related bindings there
[10:50] <don> how do I install flash player I download it how can I install it 6.06 kubuntu?
[10:50] <Taladan> lerneaen_hydra: you're going to likely have to do it for the particular application that you're wanting to use.
[10:51] <fiznut> Wow Kubuntu is so much nicer than Ubuntu.. Nicest KDE implementation i've seen I think
[10:51] <lerneaen_hydra> Taladan: oh, so you can define functions manually? key foo performs action bar?
[10:52] <skyion> fiznut >> agreed its brilliant
[10:53] <fiznut> Yah :D And Adept Manager seems more efficient than Synaptic was
[10:53] <skyion> now if only they could get the multiverse graphics drivers easier to load.
[10:53] <skyion> adept sometimes flunks out.
[10:53] <vito>  hey alguien aqui ha trabajado con LYX?!?!?!?!
[10:53] <Taladan> lerneaen_hydra: I think so, haven't shortcutted a bunch of stuff because I use amarok and know its shortcuts already
[10:53] <fiznut> Yeah i've noticed it do it a couple times, but reloading X fixes it
[10:54] <lerneaen_hydra> Taladan: oh, ok
[10:54] <acidBURN> is there a link for setup ati drivers, in kubuntu ???
[10:54] <lerneaen_hydra> I guess I'll make do with just binding it to amarok
[10:54] <fiznut> skyion: I'm having trouble getting drivers to work properly too. Are you trying to make Beryl functional?
[10:55] <skyion> no...
[10:55] <fiznut> ah okay
[10:55] <skyion> still running the beta
[10:55] <fiznut> cool deal
[10:55] <skyion> gonna finish downloading official 7.04 release
[10:55] <fiznut> I'm running on fglrx I believe, just not sure which
[10:55] <skyion> i dunno if easyubuntu would help
[10:55] <fiznut> Awesome. I'm really enjoying 7.0.4 so far
[10:56] <skyion> its made great leaps since 6.10
[10:56] <fiznut> Never had 6.10. What are some of the changes?
[10:57] <skyion> wifi support off the bat
[10:57] <skyion> better support for notebooks
[10:57] <fiznut> Oh good deal. It detected and configured my card perfectly
[10:58] <skyion> hmmm... somethings up with the networks
[10:59] <acidBURN> need some info, on completely setting up the ati drivers, for xorg..
[11:01] <nicudotro> does anybody know how to make amarok use arts
[11:01] <nicudotro> ?
[11:02] <mehmet> hi
[11:02] <eljefe> main2: back, missing modules
[11:02] <mehmet> know i instralled Kubuntu 7.04 dvd
[11:02] <mehmet> i wanna run windows migration assist
[11:02] <mehmet> how
[11:02] <mehmet> ?
[11:02] <dbist> when you install 7.04 it will run by itself
[11:02] <dbist> right after you pick partitions
[11:03] <eljefe> mehmet: i think its done before/during the install, if you choose "Let Kubuntu repartiotn my drive"  but i am really not sure...
[11:03] <mehmet> hm
[11:03] <_StefanS_> mehmet: unless you had vista before
[11:03] <mehmet> i choosed manual
[11:03] <dbist> during the install, correct
[11:03] <eljefe> mehmet: the one install i've done on a dualboot, i chose my own partitions and the win migration assistant was never even mentioned
[11:03] <mehmet> i have xp pro
[11:03] <mehmet> ok
[11:03] <_StefanS_> mehmet: should work automatically
[11:04] <mehmet> ok it is not problem
[11:04] <dbist> yes, migration I believe only works if you let it pick partitions automatically
[11:04] <mehmet> but i see my ntfs partition but i can not write on them
[11:04] <mehmet> i installed ntfs-config and 3g
[11:04] <dbist> that's admin rights i believe
[11:04] <mehmet> but there are problems :(
[11:05] <dbist> migration assistant is only for your wallpaper and bookmarks
[11:05] <dbist> it has nothing to do with viewing windows partition
[11:05] <easytiger> !compiz
[11:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:05] <brill> there was a good guide out there i used to see my Sata
[11:05] <brill> lemme see if i can find the web address
[11:05] <mehmet> dbist: http://rafb.net/p/pp8j7D96.html
[11:06] <brill> sata was ntfs
[11:06] <mehmet> _StefanS_: http://rafb.net/p/pp8j7D96.html
[11:06] <dbist> you need samba
[11:06] <dbist> go to remote places
[11:06] <dbist> pick samba
[11:07] <brill> www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[11:07] <_StefanS_> mehmet: you need to run a repair on that windows volume. Either use the linux ntfsfix, or boot your winxp cd in console mode and do an chkdsk from there
[11:07] <mehmet> dbist: apt-get install samba ok installed
[11:08] <dbist> go to remote places
[11:08] <mehmet> _StefanS_: ok ntfsfix how?
[11:09] <mehmet> dbist:  ok there is samba shares but i can not :(
[11:09] <brill> i had to edit fstab
[11:09] <brill> to get my sata to be read/writeable
[11:09] <brill> kubuntu didn't pick it up out of box
[11:09] <dbist> if you want to write to it, it has something to do with admin rigths
[11:09] <brill> which was fine
[11:09] <mehmet> brill:  i tihnk you are right
[11:09] <suban> hi all!
[11:09] <_StefanS_> brill: well, dont you still need to do a chkdsk before that ?
[11:09] <suban> guys i am running kubuntu
[11:09] <brill> my sata was ntfs formatted
[11:10] <suban> can anyone help me install quake
[11:10] <suban> ?
[11:10] <_StefanS_> suban: sudo apt-get install quake2
[11:10] <suban> i did that
[11:10] <suban> and sudo aptitude install quake2-data as well
[11:10] <_StefanS_> suban: well you need the original data files as well
[11:10] <suban> where do i get them?
[11:11] <_StefanS_> suban: well dont you own the game ?
[11:11] <mehmet> brill:  how can fstab?
[11:11] <suban> Nope !
[11:11] <suban> Whew
[11:11] <suban> means i need to buy the game first huh?
[11:11] <_StefanS_> suban: well, that is sort of required I think.
[11:11] <suban> Well im sure the data files would be easily available on the net right?
[11:12] <pascal80> What does the command "lsb_release -si" return on a Kubuntu system?
[11:12] <_StefanS_> suban: probably ;)
[11:12] <suban> he he
[11:12] <suban> thanks Stefan
[11:12] <suban> !!
[11:12] <_StefanS_> np
[11:12] <StooJ> I know the source code was released by ID, not sure how that affects the legality of a linux version
[11:13] <_StefanS_> suban: try tremulous ..
[11:13] <pascal80> I'm running gnome and would like to know if lsb_release shows the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[11:13] <suban> tremulous?
[11:13] <brill> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[11:13] <_StefanS_> suban: its a opensource fps
[11:13] <_StefanS_> suban: there's another one too, just cant remember the name
[11:13] <brill> mehmet: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[11:14] <Yorokobi> pascal80, it says 'Ubuntu'
[11:14] <suban> i am onto tremulous
[11:14] <brill> except apply to your drive
[11:14] <suban> 104 mb of archives
[11:14] <biovore> www.linux-gamers.net
[11:14] <suban> will take almost an hour :(
[11:14] <pascal80> Yorokobi, thanks
[11:14] <pascal80> Yorokobi, does "lsb_release" -a return anything that indicates you are running KDE
[11:15] <Yorokobi> Nope
[11:15] <StooJ> I'm not sure - have I found a bug in the display settings security? When I go into Display settings & click administrator mode I can type in any old password and it lets me into admin mode.
[11:15] <_StefanS_> pascal80: nope
[11:15] <StooJ> As in "Monitor & Display"
[11:15] <frojnd> hello guys... I have this huge problem. I have XP on computer and than I was into installing kubuntu feisty. So I put cd in and boot from it but somehow there was some trouble with cd, so I ctrl + alt+ del and quit the loading part (I did't come into KDE desktop yet) and after that I just insert another cd also with kubuntu on it and installed kubuntu. But somewhow at the beginning there isn't any XP in the grub list. How can I
[11:15] <frojnd> choose to come into XP ??
[11:15] <suban> hey stefan w r u?
[11:15] <Ahmuck> will kubuntu allow you to specify where things get installed.  for example, if i wanted apache2, php5, mysql5 in /usr/local rather than the system directory, is there a way to tell adept to install it there?
[11:16] <pascal80> Yorokobi, I meant "lsb_release -a"
[11:16] <Yorokobi> frojnd, you probably need a XP boot CD/floppy that will let you run fdisk /mbr
[11:16] <StooJ> frojnd: did you manually partition your hard drive?
[11:16] <Yorokobi> pascal80, and I meant: nope
[11:16] <frojnd> StooJ: yes, and just set as mount point xp partition
[11:16] <StooJ> hehe - just checking ;)
[11:16] <frojnd> Yorokobi: don't get it
[11:16] <_StefanS_> suban: http://sauerbraten.org/
[11:17] <_StefanS_> suban: is nice too
[11:17] <snake> can anyone give me the beryl svn repositories for feisty because i want to have the xvidcap plugin that only beryl svn has
[11:17] <Yorokobi> frojnd, did you install Kubuntu?
[11:17] <frojnd> Yorokobi: yes ...
[11:17] <frojnd> i am on kubuntu
[11:17] <Yorokobi> frojnd, do you want to dual-boot?
[11:17] <frojnd> just can't see xp in the grub list..
[11:17] <frojnd> Yorokobi: yes
[11:17] <Yorokobi> !fixgrub | frojnd
[11:17] <ubotu> frojnd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:17] <Ahmuck> frojnd: did you manually partition your drive ?
[11:18] <frojnd> Ahmuck: YEP
[11:18] <Ahmuck> did you set your xp partition as /
[11:18] <suban> cool
[11:18] <suban> !!
[11:19] <StooJ> Anyone any thoughts on the Monitor & Display password thing?
[11:19] <frojnd> BUT u must know that XP was installed before KUBUNTU
[11:19] <macrozzy> hallo brauch ma german help
[11:19] <Lynoure> !de | macrozzy
[11:19] <ubotu> macrozzy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:19] <Ahmuck> but if you manually partition and then set xp partition as / (root) i suspect you overwrote it
[11:19] <macrozzy> thanks
[11:21] <Ahmuck> but it's hard to tell what you did.  i partition my disk as 1. win32 - windowsxp, 2. /home, 3. /storage & 4. /swap
[11:21] <Ahmuck> and made sure that i was not re-formating my w32 partition
[11:23] <gan|y|med> hi
[11:23] <gan|y|med> how can i get the original feisty look back (kde theme)???
[11:25] <gan|y|med> i screwed up my kde design, reinstalling kubuntu-desktop didn't help...
[11:25] <eljefe> main2: still, no...
[11:26] <Yorokobi> gan|y|med, an effective--if not overblown--way to do it is to 'rm -rf ~/.kde'  You'll lose _all_ the customizations you've made.
[11:26] <frojnd> how can I start beryl: what packages do I have to install??'
[11:27] <onlineapps> frojnd: type sudo aptitude install beryl in konsole
[11:27] <Yorokobi> frojnd, read the install wiki on beryl-project.org
[11:28] <gan|y|med> Yorokobi: that's like throwing a nuke on iraq to get rid of the problem
[11:28] <Yorokobi> gan|y|med, I said it was a bit overblown.
[11:28] <zorglu_> suban: you got your azureus issue fixed ?
[11:28] <gan|y|med> thx anyway
[11:29] <mehmet> hi
[11:29] <suban> nope
[11:30] <suban> azureus is too slow
[11:30] <suban> @zorglu
[11:30] <zorglu_> suban: ok do 'java -version' and tell me what you see
[11:30] <suban> @zorglu: id like to tweak it so that it runs faster
[11:30] <mehmet> i have kubuntu 7.04 . now i installed beryl. but it is not runnig.. glxinfo | grep direct  = render no :(  i think i have to install ati driver???
[11:30] <zorglu_> !tab | suban
[11:30] <suban> 1.6.9
[11:30] <ubotu> suban: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:31] <zorglu_> !info java
[11:31] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:31] <zorglu_> suban: ok paste the first line
[11:31] <dbist> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/314124_dellfolo03.html
[11:31] <suban> zorglu_: 1.6.0
[11:31] <zorglu_> suban: ok paste the first line
[11:31] <suban> zorglu_: java version "1.6.0"
[11:31] <gan|y|med> ahh, my messed up design looks so much like crap. isn't there any easy way to restore the kubuntu look?
[11:31] <zorglu_> suban: it will be fixed rapidely, but you must work with me :)
[11:31] <suban> zorglu_: ok!!
[11:32] <zorglu_> suban: ok what is your cpu and memory ?
[11:32] <onlineapps> mehmet: do you have the ati driver?
[11:32] <suban> core 2 duo. 2G, 1Gig Ram
[11:32] <user_> Hey all
[11:32] <zorglu_> suban: ok i dont get it, it should be very fast
[11:32] <mehmet> onlineapps:  no :(  how can i install?
[11:32] <user_> i need help in installing EW-7318 WIFI USB
[11:32] <zorglu_> suban: why do you think it is slow. what is too slow ?
[11:32] <user_> who can help please?
[11:32] <suban> it gives me about 30k download speed
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: oh you mean the network speed is too slow ?
[11:33] <suban> i read on the net that people get almost 100 k
[11:33] <suban> yeah
[11:33] <user_> i am new in unix
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: not the cpu stuff
[11:33] <suban> no no
[11:33] <onlineapps> mehmet: theres a good tutorial at http://www.darkartistry.com/content/view/67/41/
[11:33] <suban> i heard
[11:33] <suban> you can configure azureus
[11:33] <suban> through ports and all
[11:33] <suban> so that it becomes real fast
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: ok you got the tcp port open ?
[11:33] <onlineapps> mehmet: it uses the closed source one though, but that should be ok (I use it myself, and it works fine wiht beryl)
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: ah ok, so you are done ?
[11:34] <suban> tcp port open?
[11:34] <suban> how?
[11:34] <zorglu_> suban: yep, there are some face, with various color
[11:34] <suban> zorglu_: Argggh, Azuerus is crashing on me!!
[11:34] <zorglu_> suban: you are behind asdl at home ?
[11:34] <suban> zorglu_: yes
[11:34] <user_> ?
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: ok so your problem is completly unrelated to ubuntu in itself
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: the download speed problem i mean
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: you need to
[11:35] <suban> zorglu_: Yes :(
[11:35] <suban> zorglu_: It seems unrelated
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: you need to 'open the tcp port' which involved the config of the asdl modem and the azureus config
[11:36] <zorglu_> suban: on that #azureus-support will be top for you :)
[11:36] <suban> Great !!
[11:36] <zorglu_> suban: they got page explaining exactly how to do that :)
[11:36] <suban> zorglu_: Thanks a ton!!
[11:36] <zorglu_> suban: my pleasure :)
[11:37] <suban> zorglu_: :)
[11:41] <TeleSkier> on a standard kubuntu 7.04 installation, is the kernel set as preemptible or not ?
[11:41] <ian_> hello!
[11:43] <TeleSkier> need to know it as NDISwrapper documentation says a certain wifi card works only if preemption is enabled
[11:44] <omeir> who can help please?
[11:44] <omeir> Wifi configuration in ubuntu
[11:44] <jrick> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:45] <omeir> ubuntu
[11:45] <jrick> don't know
[11:45] <jrick> I use KDE
[11:45] <TeleSkier> omeir, the rule here is to put your question and wait... (and pray....)
[11:46] <Dragnslcr> You might have better luck in #ubuntu, since they're more likely to have people familiar with Gnome
[11:46] <os2mac> has anyone used Kandy before?
[11:46] <ubuntu> i would like to mount kubuntu iso for fiesty from the hard drive, from a live cd before the live cd completes boot.  in other words, boot to live cd, mount fiesty.iso and pass booting to the mounted iso
[11:46] <lobster> teleSkier: what kernel are you running?
[11:46] <TeleSkier> 386 generic
[11:46] <kalorin`> ok, if I plug in an ipod where would I look for it to be mounted?
[11:47] <TeleSkier> lobster: the one which is provided  with the kubuntu desktop cd
[11:47] <Ahmuck> i would like to boot from a live cd, mount the fiesty.iso while booting and pass the booting process to the *.iso on the hard drive to complete, is this possible?
[11:47] <Ahmuck> this would free up my cdrom drive
[11:49] <scrubb2000> Anybody home?
[11:49] <hdxx> sure
[11:49] <scrubb2000> Ah ha
[11:49] <scrubb2000> X died when I enabled the nvidia driver...
[11:50] <hdxx> did you install nvidia-glx-new
[11:50] <lobster> teleSkier: try this:  cat /boot/config*|grep PREEMPT
[11:51] <scrubb2000> I installed it through apt
[11:51] <lobster> teleSkier: try this:  should be on by default, but the comment lines say it is off (ignore them)
[11:51] <scrubb2000> All the description said was "enable it with sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable"
[11:51] <scrubb2000> So that's what I did...then restared X with ctrl-alt-bksp
[11:52] <TeleSkier> ok lobster, thanks  will go to see and let you know
[11:52] <hdxx> scrubb2000: did you change in xorg.conf driver to "nvidia"
[11:52] <scrubb2000> And all that came back was a blinking cursor.
[11:53] <scrubb2000> hdxx, I was under the impression that nvidia-glx-config did that because it echoed a message that it had made a backup of xorg.conf
[11:53] <lobster> can anyone answer some questions re: kde display manager and setting default refresh rates in xorg?
[11:53] <scrubb2000> So I presume it made all the necessary changes, but I could be wrong.
[11:53] <hdxx> scrubb2000: i had that problem too.. and when you reboot computer chose in grub ubuntu recovery mode ...and you will log in X .. then restart computer again, and start normaly ubuntu
[11:53] <hdxx> try that
[11:53] <hdxx> helped to me
[11:54] <scrubb2000> hdxx, what does "and you will log in X" mean?
[11:54] <hdxx> scrubb2000: log in to KDE
[11:54] <TeleSkier> lobster: I have CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y and CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y      It means preempt is enabled I guess.  Please confirm if you can
[11:54] <lobster> I can help others while waiting for help for me, so feel free to ask...
[11:55] <scrubb2000> hdxx, what's the command for that? (sorry for my n00bness)
[11:55] <lobster> teleSkier: it is enabled.  go ahead with your ndiswrapper install
[11:55] <mehmet> i have kubuntu 7.04. and now i have installed my ati drivers. but beryl is not working :(
[11:55] <lobster> teleSkier: let me know if you need futher assistance
[11:55] <TeleSkier> thanks lobster and good luck with the help you need!
[11:56] <hdxx> scrubb2000: when you chose ubuntu recovery mode .. ubuntu will boot on your deskop.. then just reboot computer again, and don't start recovery mode.. start ubuntu normaly
[11:56] <scrubb2000> Oh ok.
[11:56] <lobster> mehmet: how is it not working?
[11:56] <frojnd> what is brltty ??
[11:56] <frojnd> or atd
[11:56] <scrubb2000> Before I go try that, though, is there an IRC client I can use from a terminal window?
[11:56] <hdxx> mehmet: ati drivers are bad for linux :S
[11:57] <hdxx> i had a lot problems with it
[11:57] <hdxx> scrubb2000: irssi
[11:57] <mehmet> lobster:  i installed my ati from restricted-manager
[11:57] <hdxx> sudo apt-get install irssi
[11:57] <mehmet> hdxx:  i know but :(
[11:57] <lobster> I have questions about KDE's systemsettings: Monitor & Display if anyoine can help...
[11:57] <lobster> mehmet: what ati card do you have?
[11:57] <scrubb2000> k, I'll be back soon.  Thanks, hdxx
[11:57] <hdxx> mehmet: just go buy nvidia i did that too, and i don't have problems
[11:58] <hdxx> scrubb2000: you're welcoem
[11:58] <lobster> mehmet & hdxx: I agree, but no sense in avoiding a good challenge
[11:59] <mehmet> lobster:  x300se
[12:00] <Ahmuck> is ther a way to paps off directories to the live cd from the hard drive.  such as /usr/local?
[12:00] <Ahmuck> will the live cd use the directory structure from the hard drive, or can you tell it to?
[12:00] <hdxx> mehmet: what error do you get when you type in console beryl-manager
[12:01] <mehmet> hdxx:  there is no error text :(
[12:01] <fiznut> Anyone know if it's possible to install the Suse kicker menu on Kubuntu?
[12:01] <lobster> mehmet
[12:02] <lobster> mehmet: what is output from running fglrxinfo?
[12:02] <frojnd> can someone tell me if I have enabled universe multiverse? here is source.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19347/
[12:02] <hdxx> frojnd: yse
[12:02] <mehmet> lobster:
[12:02] <mehmet> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[12:02] <mehmet> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[12:02] <mehmet> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X300/X550/X1050 Series
[12:02] <mehmet> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[12:03] <hdxx> mehmet: glxinfo | grep render
[12:03] <harzi> hi, i'm new to ubuntu and have just installed kubuntu feisty with expert mode of alternate installer to configure raid and a root-account. now, everything seamed to work, but i canot update via grafical adept. the root-pw becomes not accepted. the root-pw works in a shell...
[12:03] <mehmet> hdxx:
[12:03] <mehmet> mehmet@mfk:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[12:03] <mehmet> direct rendering: Yes
[12:03] <mehmet>     GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture
[12:03] <mehmet> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X300/X550/X1050 Series
[12:04] <biovore> I think the graphical updater uses sudo.. try your user password..
[12:04] <hdxx> harzi: try run in console "sudo adept" without "
[12:04] <harzi> what pw to use? i also tried to change root-pw by #passwd root
[12:04] <mek_> harzi: in gerneal there is no root account enabled
[12:04] <harzi> hdxx: ok, i try
[12:04] <mek_> (password enabled)
[12:04] <harzi> mek_: via expert mode in the installer you become asked to define a root, but you don't have to
[12:05] <mek_> use the first user and the first users password
[12:05] <lobster> mehmet: are you on an upgrade, did beryl work before?
[12:05] <mehmet> lobster:  no
[12:05] <harzi> or is it a bad idea to run ubuntu with a root-account
[12:05] <hdxx> mehmet: can you past your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:06] <scrubb> hdxx, I'm back
[12:06] <mek_> AFAIK the root account itself is existant, but the password is just disabled
[12:06] <scrubb> restarting in recovery then rebooting didn't fix it...
[12:06] <mehmet> hdxx: lobster http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19348/
[12:06] <hdxx> scrubb: delete drivers .. sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new
[12:06] <harzi> hm, adept, command not found
[12:07] <mek_> IMHO it should be no problem to use a password based root account, but feel free to to recheck that info
[12:07] <scrubb> ok
[12:07] <harzi> seams not to become installed by default then
[12:07] <hdxx> and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:07] <mek_> scrubb: can you do a sudo su - in a shell
[12:07] <scrubb> hdxx, says it wasn't isntalled?
[12:07] <mek_> (with your user password)
[12:08] <hdxx> scrubb: so try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:08] <scrubb> k
[12:08] <scrubb> hdxx, apt says it's already the newest version
[12:08] <mek_> is the first user sudo enabeld when an root account password is generated by the installer? ok, than it seems so
[12:08] <hdxx> mehmet: i couldn't make beryl to work on fglrx drivers
[12:09] <hdxx> scrubb: glxinfo | grep render
[12:09] <mehmet> hdxx:  i know , but i have to work with fglrx beacuse my screen 19" so 1280x1024 :(
[12:09] <scrubb> hdxx, "unable to open display (null)"
[12:09] <mek_> scrubb: but your question was about a general update not about nvidia
[12:09] <kalorin`> so, to upgrade or not to upgrade
[12:09] <kalorin`> that is the question
[12:10] <kalorin`> 6.10 right now
[12:10] <kalorin`> with the ATI commerical drivers
[12:10] <hdxx> mehmet: like i said.. ati sux..
[12:10] <scrubb> mek_, my original question was "X died after I installed the nvidia driver"
[12:10] <Vilavie> dz
[12:10] <biovore> rgr that.. ATI's drivers for linux are horable at best..
[12:10] <kalorin`> ati doesn't suck a lot worse than nvidia
[12:10] <kalorin`> working fine for me
[12:11] <TeleSkier> When I apt_get a package, where is it stored ?
[12:11] <biovore> it dosn't even support xvideo for some cards
[12:11] <kalorin`> the nvidia card in my workstation at work was just about as much of a pain to get going
[12:11] <hdxx> scrubb: can you paste your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:12] <kalorin`> the installers for both nvidia and ati are getting a lot better
[12:12] <kalorin`> but neither supports dual monitors really all that well
[12:12] <scrubb> hdxx, only if there's a terminal based web-browser I can use...
[12:12] <kalorin`> without a fair amount of tinkering, mostly it's the kernel modules that aren't really intuitive to install
[12:12] <kalorin`> ah well cleanin' time
[12:13] <lobster> mehmet: don't you need a Load "glx" in the module section of your xorg file?