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| [Cade] | Has anyone else noticed fonts suddenly being much smaller post-reboot? | 12:58 |
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| XVampireX | Where can I see the changes going into gutsy gibbon? | 01:10 |
| crimsun | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gutsy-changes/ | 01:16 |
| crimsun | hint: there's a $release-changes list for each release | 01:17 |
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| XVampireX | crimsun: I meant more of a launchpad style changes... | 01:19 |
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| crimsun | XVampireX: please clarify. Do you mean Launchpad changes or what? | 01:21 |
| XVampireX | I meant like in Feisty there was a roadmap kind of thing like for example a bulletproof X | 01:21 |
| XVampireX | and so on | 01:21 |
| XVampireX | general changes | 01:21 |
| XVampireX | not commits | 01:21 |
| crimsun | start here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/uds-sevilla/ | 01:22 |
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| XVampireX | Hey people, here's a suggestion, a graphical grub... | 05:20 |
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| DarkMageZ | imagine grub with full 3d acceleration =D | 05:24 |
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| nomasteryoda | oh yea | 05:29 |
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| DarkMageZ | i will admit that grub currently looks really ugly and needs some loving. but maybe full 3d acceleration is overkill. | 05:38 |
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| crdlb | that would be a really bad idea :) | 05:39 |
| tonyyarusso | ...3D accel in the grub menu? | 05:39 |
| tonyyarusso | icky | 05:39 |
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| tonyyarusso | XVampireX: You can put a background pic on it. | 05:40 |
| DarkMageZ | a background pic doesn't make it pritty | 05:40 |
| DarkMageZ | it helps a little, but doesn't fix the real issue | 05:40 |
| DarkMageZ | have you seen what opensuse uses? that looks fairly pretty. | 05:41 |
| tonyyarusso | nope | 05:41 |
| tonyyarusso | then there's configuration - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/graphical-grub-config | 05:42 |
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| DarkMageZ | completely unrelated that is... | 05:43 |
| XVampireX | see | 05:43 |
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| poningru | !real | 06:00 |
| ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 06:00 |
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| rizza | anyone involved with the installer | 06:14 |
| Toma- | theres no gutsy installer yet... | 06:19 |
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| rizza | thats fine but will preseeding work and auto mode | 06:21 |
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| ajmorris_ | woot they just added lots to the gutsy gibbon repos | 06:39 |
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| catid | anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them? | 08:44 |
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| BHSPitMonkey | catid, file-roller should allow that. | 09:03 |
| BHSPitMonkey | it's fickle, though; try dragging the file over the folder, wait for the progress bar in file-roller to finish, and then release. | 09:03 |
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| catid | BHSPitMonkey: when i try to drag outside of the file roller frame it shows an (X) icon for "not able to extract here" | 09:06 |
| BHSPitMonkey | odd | 09:07 |
| catid | BHSPitMonkey: i remember it working a long time ago.. this is a fresh install | 09:07 |
| BHSPitMonkey | not sure then | 09:07 |
| RAOF | I think the behaviour of file-roller has been changed. | 09:07 |
| catid | file roller is kind of weak anyway.. if you can think of something more powerful.. | 09:07 |
| RAOF | Rather than sometimes not working for no obvious reason, dragging now just totally dis-allowed | 09:07 |
| catid | oh RAOF i'm playing with LVM and have an issue with it perhaps you've fixed.. every time i boot it says there's some disk error and asks me to press CTRL+D to bypass the recovery console.. if i take the console and run fsck it still says there are problems next boot | 09:08 |
| RAOF | catid: That's an error I've *never* seen. | 09:09 |
| catid | =/ | 09:09 |
| RAOF | It sounds more like it's a failure to cleanly unmount your mounts, rather than something directly LVM related | 09:09 |
| catid | okay i'll look out for that | 09:10 |
| crimsun | it's normally caused by hardware failure. I see it consistently on Dell Inspirons. | 09:10 |
| RAOF | Awesome. Nothing like broken hardware to brighten up a day | 09:10 |
| crimsun | you need to fsck -Cf /partition numerous times. | 09:10 |
| crimsun | it normally takes at least two passes. | 09:11 |
| catid | will try that too | 09:11 |
| catid | xarchiver doesn't let me drag outside either | 09:12 |
| === catid suspects it's a more general bug? | ||
| RAOF | Don't think so. | 09:13 |
| RAOF | With the implicit "I", obviously. You're welcome to think so :) | 09:14 |
| catid | oh aria2 is going to be a great download manager when they get a gui wrapped around it and FlashGot supports it. it's the best, um, perhaps the only linux segmented downloader | 09:14 |
| catid | i did find another linux segmented downloader called wxDFast, but it crashes a lot.. | 09:14 |
| === RAOF doesn't do enough large file downloading not through bittorrent to care. | ||
| catid | i appreciated it when downloading the feisty CD image | 09:15 |
| RAOF | Again, why not the bittorrent? | 09:15 |
| === RAOF downloaded his feisty image at >1MB/sec with bittorrent. | ||
| catid | oh nice | 09:15 |
| catid | segmented downloading is kind of implicit in bit torrent too | 09:16 |
| catid | aria2 has a built-in bt client | 09:16 |
| RAOF | Kinda explicit, really. :) | 09:16 |
| catid | heh ^_^ | 09:16 |
| catid | i'll try bt next time for the iso images | 09:17 |
| catid | i'm used to bit torrent being really slow compared to usenet though | 09:17 |
| catid | so didn't think of it first | 09:17 |
| catid | if they have some decent seeds in the swarm for the iso images, then the pTCP-style segmented downloading will not be as good as bit torrent's segmented downloading | 09:18 |
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| catid | system hangs when i try to software suspend with my own kernel.. getting a blinking capslock. wonder if it works with the ubuntu kernel.. :) | 09:46 |
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| catid | i tried it with a few different combinations of the suspend code.. suspend and suspend2, the ubuntu git head for suspending with other patches.. | 09:48 |
| catid | with/without setting the default suspend device in .config | 09:49 |
| jussi01 | catid: gutsy or feisty? | 09:50 |
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| catid | jussi01: i tried gutsy too, mostly testing with feisty stuff | 09:52 |
| catid | hrm.. i tried the git gutsy kernel i mean | 09:52 |
| jussi01 | catid: just this is thgutsy channel... | 09:52 |
| jussi01 | :D | 09:52 |
| catid | using the feisty CD though | 09:52 |
| jussi01 | anyway, got to run... | 09:52 |
| catid | later | 09:53 |
| catid | *shrugs* just talking to myself.. it's not going to get fixed until i take the time to decode the blinking error message | 09:53 |
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| icecruncher | wil Kde 4 be in in Gutsy? | 10:12 |
| RAOF | Since it's release date is approximately the same as Gutsy's release date, probably not. | 10:12 |
| icecruncher | sob | 10:13 |
| ziroday | kde 4 looks awesome | 10:13 |
| Tomcat_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kde4-gutsy-plan <--- accepted for uds-sevilla... so at least it's being discussed. | 10:13 |
| RAOF | Cool. Well, kinda. | 10:14 |
| === RAOF is not much of a KDE fan, so... | ||
| RAOF | The Kubuntu team seem much more willing to track development, too. | 10:15 |
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| tapas | ok, how do i alter my sources lst to get gutsy gibbons packages? | 11:41 |
| gortiz | insert gutsy where is feisty | 11:42 |
| tapas | [i suppose e.g. pidgin/gaim 2.0 wont appear in feisty right? | 11:42 |
| tapas | gortiz: ok | 11:42 |
| gortiz | tapas, don't know.. i'm not the mantainer.. | 11:42 |
| tapas | doesn't ubuntu have a release policy that new packages only go into the next release? | 11:43 |
| gortiz | mhmm.. i really don't care.. i'm using the next release.. so i don't know.. -.- sorry! | 11:44 |
| tapas | ok | 11:44 |
| gortiz | but if i'm right, there is the backport repository to backport the software from the next release to the previous.. | 11:44 |
| tapas | oh ok | 11:44 |
| jussi01 | tapas: yea, your correct... | 11:44 |
| jussi01 | the backports are community maintained though... not officially | 11:45 |
| tapas | ok | 11:45 |
| jussi01 | jdong is the backport man... | 11:45 |
| jussi01 | :D | 11:45 |
| tapas | i can try gutsy though on my box.. it's not really "production" atm | 11:45 |
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| jussi01 | tapas: I wouldnt recommend it right now | 11:46 |
| jussi01 | wait a few weeks - at least until alpha... | 11:46 |
| tapas | hmm, or maybe i just instll pidgin from source.. | 11:46 |
| tapas | [i need to port a plugin to it] | 11:46 |
| gortiz | yeah.. i suggest to use the sources.. | 11:46 |
| jussi01 | +1 on that from me | 11:47 |
| tapas | oh well.. :) | 11:48 |
| tapas | i'm also interesdted in the upstart development though. i might set up gutsy on a nother partition or so | 11:48 |
| jussi01 | tapas: yeah, thats a good idea | 11:48 |
| gortiz | :) | 11:50 |
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| ajmorris_ | is it possible to get partial upgrade to work with feisty to gutsy? | 12:42 |
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| ajmorris_ | this error is what it comes up with : A upgrade from 'gutsy' to 'feisty' is not supoprted with this tool. | 12:43 |
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| Tm_T | ajmorris_: you're sure you know what you're doing? | 12:53 |
| ajmorris_ | Tm_T yes | 12:54 |
| Tm_T | so you know you're breaking your system totally, good | 12:54 |
| ajmorris_ | i just want to know if a partial upgrade can be done for gutsy | 12:54 |
| Tm_T | it can be done for sure, but you end up to have big mess there | 12:55 |
| ajmorris_ | i am not updating important files | 12:56 |
| Tm_T | but? | 12:56 |
| ajmorris_ | just random things that i want the latest version for | 12:56 |
| ajmorris_ | lol | 12:56 |
| Tm_T | let's say you take some gtk app -> it asks to upgrade gtk also -> all other gtk apps are trash now | 12:57 |
| Tm_T | see pattern here? | 12:57 |
| ajmorris_ | yes | 12:57 |
| Tm_T | UNLESS you compile them yourself | 12:57 |
| Tm_T | just taking some apps in binary won't work (except in some rare cases) | 12:58 |
| Tm_T | I afraid | 12:58 |
| Tm_T | but feel free to take source package and use those | 12:59 |
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| Tm_T | weird, no one disagree with me yet | 01:01 |
| ajmorris_ | lol | 01:02 |
| ajmorris_ | lots prolly AFK | 01:02 |
| Tm_T | exactly ;) | 01:02 |
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| sivaji | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298/ | 06:08 |
| jussi01 | sivaji: it is considered rude to ask the same question in multiple places! please dont... | 06:09 |
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| sivaji | jussi01 nobody is answering thatis why | 06:11 |
| jussi01 | sivaji: you cant just pastebin something and expect a reply. write what your problem is, and if someone can help you they will.. | 06:12 |
| sivaji | ok | 06:13 |
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