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| micahcowan | Would somebody like to sponsor an upload of my fix for bug 58256? | 02:11 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 58256 in gawk "length() memory error " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58256 | 02:11 |
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| mneptok | munh. tons of users are compiling Pidgin 2.0 or using unofficial .debs | 04:28 |
| jdong | mneptok: I know | 04:29 |
| jdong | working on unofficial debs myself :D | 04:29 |
| jdong | LOL | 04:29 |
| mneptok | please don't | 04:29 |
| jdong | I have no intention of posting them | 04:30 |
| mneptok | oh, ok. | 04:30 |
| mneptok | nm | 04:30 |
| jdong | I just am hacking with debian svn's debianization | 04:30 |
| mneptok | i have no objections to you pulling the wings off butterflies in some sick "scientific" endeavor. just don't feed them to the neighbor's kids. | 04:31 |
| mneptok | ;) | 04:31 |
| jdong | lol | 04:31 |
| jdong | it looks like pidgin installs side-by-side with gaim | 04:31 |
| jdong | which is good news for people debianizing | 04:32 |
| jdong | I still think my approach is somewhat saner than checkinstalling | 04:32 |
| sn0 | there are unofficiall debs linked on the forums | 04:33 |
| sn0 | i have a 3rd party mirror up | 04:33 |
| sn0 | otr too | 04:33 |
| jdong | sn0: how were these unofficial debs built? | 04:33 |
| jdong | please don't tell me someone checkinstalled them.... | 04:34 |
| sn0 | is there an easy way to find that out, i didn't build them | 04:34 |
| jdong | URL? | 04:34 |
| sn0 | http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=57356 | 04:35 |
| sn0 | my mirrors (non rapidshare) area https://linedash.net/ubu/feisty/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb https://linedash.net/ubu/feisty/pidgin-otr_3.0.0-1_i386.deb | 04:35 |
| jdong | where's the source... | 04:36 |
| sn0 | forgive my ignorance of compiling but checkinstall would be bad ? | 04:36 |
| jdong | yes | 04:36 |
| jdong | it makes packages that do not follow Debian conventions | 04:36 |
| jdong | and may be a pain while upgrading | 04:36 |
| jdong | or when an official pidgin comes out | 04:36 |
| sn0 | i did notice someone mentioned on the forums about debian/ctronl not listing gaim packages as being forbidden to be installed | 04:37 |
| sn0 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=429255&page=9 | 04:37 |
| sn0 | *control | 04:37 |
| jdong | sn0: they install side by side | 04:37 |
| jdong | i.e. they can coexist | 04:38 |
| jdong | one does not conflict or replace the other | 04:38 |
| sn0 | yes both are working fine gaim/pidgin | 04:38 |
| jdong | yep | 04:38 |
| jdong | which IMO is good news :) | 04:38 |
| sn0 | :] cool | 04:38 |
| sn0 | txt based finch (part of pidgin) is nice :) gnite | 05:02 |
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| rizza | hello | 06:08 |
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| rizza | anyone involved with the installer | 06:12 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 07:34 |
| Treenaks | hi Hobbsee | 07:35 |
| Hobbsee | Treenaks: :) | 07:38 |
| === Treenaks is done packing.. but now I have to do nothing for 1.5 hours before going to the airport.. | ||
| Hobbsee | heh | 07:39 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt have to catch a plain today - woo! | ||
| StevenK | That's 'plane' | 07:40 |
| StevenK | Catching a field might hurt. | 07:40 |
| Treenaks | Hobbsee: I live a bit closer to Spain ;) | 07:40 |
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| Hobbsee | er, yeah, plane | 07:40 |
| Hobbsee | thought my brain was working :) | 07:40 |
| Treenaks | Hobbsee: what's the weather like in Sevilla? | 07:42 |
| Hobbsee | Treenaks: i think 13C at the moment, supposed to be 26C today | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | getting more humid, apparently | 07:44 |
| Mithrandir | hiya Hobbsee | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | heya Mithrandir! | 07:44 |
| jdong | In Soviet Russia, plane catch YOU | 07:47 |
| === jdong grins | ||
| Hobbsee | hah | 07:48 |
| sladen | Soviet Russia, very strange place | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | morning sladen | 07:50 |
| sladen | Hobbsee: morning. You're a bit late leaving to get to Sevilla by today? Doesn't australia take ~= 24hours? | 07:52 |
| Hobbsee | sladen: uh? | 07:52 |
| === Hobbsee is here... | ||
| Hobbsee | sladen: and 26.5 was our time | 07:52 |
| sladen | ah, see you at breakfast then | 07:52 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 07:52 |
| Hobbsee | sladen: elky wants to know where you are | 07:53 |
| === StevenK idly wonders if he will get a chance to discuss his spec. | ||
| === Hobbsee + elky --> breakfast | ||
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| stittel | Hi! Is there a tool to automaticall figure out the runtime dependencies when creating a new package? | 08:19 |
| Treenaks | stittel: what are you doing, and what do you want to accomplish :) | 08:19 |
| stittel | I was thinking about just doing "make && make install" and then use this tool to check the link-level dependency of the created binaries... | 08:19 |
| Treenaks | ldd | 08:20 |
| Treenaks | objdump | 08:20 |
| stittel | Yes, ldd is nice. | 08:20 |
| Treenaks | don't those 2 do what you want? | 08:20 |
| stittel | objdump looks up to which installed package a certain file belongs? | 08:20 |
| Treenaks | no | 08:20 |
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| Treenaks | that's dpkg | 08:20 |
| stittel | I was thinking of a program that I feed a directory and that will give me the package names of all debian packages that contain a file that a file in this directory is linked against. | 08:21 |
| Treenaks | I think you should read a few documents about debian packaging... it'll explain everything | 08:21 |
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| stittel | Any link at hand? | 08:22 |
| Treenaks | stittel: look at the debian policy.. and debian packaging tutorials.. google will find them for you | 08:23 |
| stittel | Ok, thank, I will. | 08:23 |
| stittel | I understand you right that the proper way to find out run-time dependencies for packaging does not require me to hunt them down by hand? | 08:23 |
| Treenaks | stittel: no.. that's what dh_shlibdeps does | 08:24 |
| Treenaks | or at least, it helps you | 08:24 |
| stittel | Thanks again! Bye! | 08:24 |
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| tepsipakki | MoM has fallen behind again | 09:02 |
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| JohnFlux2 | only a few more hours before I leave | 09:44 |
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| afflux | my pbuilder for gutsy doesn't want to build... http://phpfi.com/231825 | 10:35 |
| afflux | (happens on pbuilder create, using debootstrap from gutsy in feisty) | 10:36 |
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| MagnusR | Hej | 11:05 |
| Treenaks | hello from Schiphol :) | 11:05 |
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| Seveas | Treenaks, heh, lucky you flying early | 11:28 |
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| Lathiat | what package is responsible for automounting CDs | 12:29 |
| Lathiat | gnome-volume-manager or hal or ? | 12:29 |
| Lathiat | (for bug filing purpsoes) | 12:29 |
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| Nafallo | Lathiat: gvm | 12:31 |
| Lathiat | cheers | 12:32 |
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| ekidd | Good morning! The hardware database client in Feisty is a lovely piece of work. | 02:30 |
| ekidd | Is the server component under active development? | 02:30 |
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| sladen | ekidd: try asking 'ogra' for more information | 02:46 |
| ekidd | Thanks! | 02:46 |
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| Keybuk | damn I am tired! | 03:15 |
| Keybuk | I need to learn how to sleep on planes | 03:15 |
| ion_ | :-( | 03:15 |
| Keybuk | and someone has helpfully changed my flight to Seville | 03:19 |
| Keybuk | an "it's not on the board" panic is not good when sleepy | 03:19 |
| zul | heh | 03:20 |
| Keybuk | happily I think I slept for about an hour on the coach between heathrow and gatwick | 03:21 |
| zul | gatwick is in london isnt it? | 03:21 |
| Keybuk | south of london | 03:22 |
| zul | I always flew in and out of heathrow when I was younger | 03:22 |
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| Keybuk | I recognise one guy in the departure lounge | 03:53 |
| Keybuk | think he might be a community guy | 03:53 |
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| Treenaks | hello everyone :) | 06:24 |
| pygi | hi | 06:24 |
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| jdong | infinity: can you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/2.1.4-0ubuntu1~feisty1 for me? It seems to be mysteriously stuck in queue like a minority at a Southern airport line. | 06:45 |
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| ph1zzle | hey all, I just have a simple enough question, when ubuntu installs on a system that has win XP installed and it sets it up so that it can dual boot, what does it do so that windows XP plays along? | 08:42 |
| ph1zzle | does it move the boot sector / MBR or does it modify some data one the win XP partition? | 08:43 |
| mjg59 | Nothing - Windows never knows | 08:43 |
| mjg59 | The Windows boot sector is in the Windows partition | 08:43 |
| ph1zzle | I have tried it myself and windows always seems to fail | 08:43 |
| mjg59 | The MBR gets replaced with code that calls grub | 08:43 |
| ph1zzle | right, but, I have made a backup of my boot sector a few times and then I install windows, I then boot into a live cd and re install the grub boot sector then modify it so that it chain loads windows but windows fails to boot at that point | 08:44 |
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| ph1zzle | boot sector is only 512 bytes too, correct? | 08:44 |
| ph1zzle | from what I have seen documented the boot sector is only 512 bytes and I do a dd bs=1b count=1 and I get the end of sector 55 aa at the end of it (cat ./bootsect.bak | od -An -tx1) | 08:46 |
| ScottK | You wouldn't be using RAID of some kind would you? | 08:47 |
| ph1zzle | no | 08:50 |
| ph1zzle | no I am not | 08:50 |
| ph1zzle | it's a intel dual core 1 laptop | 08:50 |
| ph1zzle | and no software raid | 08:50 |
| ScottK | OK. Just a thought. | 08:51 |
| ph1zzle | so your saying all I need to do is backup the boot sector and restore it after the install? | 08:51 |
| ph1zzle | what I have seen is when I do that and setup the chain loader etc, windows starts and then gives me a non recoverable error | 08:51 |
| ph1zzle | I forget what it is at the moment, but I mean it's during the windows boot, no desktop or login screen ever comes close | 08:52 |
| ScottK | The only way I've ever done it is install Windows first and then Linux. Works great. I know it can be done the other way, but I've never tried. #ubuntu is the help channel. You might have more luck there. | 08:53 |
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| jdong | apport needs a duplicate traceback checker :D | 10:38 |
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| Draconicus | Can somebody here link me to something that explains how you guys make your live CDs? | 10:39 |
| jdong | Draconicus: LiveCDCustomization/6.06 | 10:39 |
| jdong | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06 | 10:39 |
| jdong | ^^ to be more exact | 10:40 |
| Draconicus | Thank you. | 10:40 |
| jdong | it's actually a lot simpler a procedure than I expected | 10:40 |
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| Draconicus | Thanks a ton. | 10:42 |
| jdong | no problem :) | 10:42 |
| Draconicus | The ##linux guys were all trying to make me do it from scratch. :P | 10:42 |
| jdong | lol | 10:42 |
| Draconicus | I'm glad I can just edit the existing LiveCD stuff to my own liking. | 10:42 |
| jdong | casper (the Ubuntu livecd system) is very nicely organized and customizable | 10:42 |
| Draconicus | Just to check: That lets me use my own password and settings, right? | 10:42 |
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| jdong | yes, you can set up your own password and settings | 10:43 |
| Draconicus | Settings, of course. Password I'm mostly concerned about. | 10:43 |
| jdong | and choice of apps , etc | 10:43 |
| Draconicus | Mm. | 10:43 |
| jdong | the wiki gives instructions specifically on changing password, IIRC | 10:43 |
| Draconicus | Goodie. | 10:43 |
| Draconicus | I'm thinking I'll put IceWM or some such on there to keep things light but flexible. | 10:43 |
| Draconicus | Most machines take forever and a day to boot the LiveCD. | 10:43 |
| ScottK | Did you try Xubuntu? | 10:44 |
| Draconicus | I love Xfce, but for a CD boot, that's still too big. | 10:44 |
| Draconicus | Xfce 4, that is. | 10:44 |
| Draconicus | One must sacrifice resources for the sake of graphical flexibility and improvement. | 10:44 |
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| tepsipakki | so.. will the mobile-ubuntu be used as default on the intel-devices? | 11:48 |
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