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[01:38] ScottK: Has anybody uploaded your fix yet? [01:39] TheMuso: Just got here. [01:39] Not as far as I know. [01:40] Ok. [01:40] Hi elmargol [01:40] Oops [01:40] Hi eolo999 === ScottK reads the scrollback [01:40] here you are [01:40] TheMuso: No one mentioned on IRC they updloaded it. [01:40] eolo999: Yes, here I am. [01:41] lot of people waiting for you ScottK [01:41] ScottK: Ok, I'll grab your updated diff and have a look. [01:41] TheMuso: THanks === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-150-217.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] eolo999: Yes. I was out. [01:42] so you had some ideas about my next class [01:42] Or at least that we could look together. [01:42] i was watching http://tinyurl.com/2us2se === ScottK looks [01:43] aka https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component=4&field.component=3&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&f [01:43] ield.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=bitesize&field.has_no_package.used= [01:43] oops, sorry [01:44] eolo999: Maybe see if you can reproduce this one (may be another 64 bit only problem) Bug #112140 [01:44] Launchpad bug 112140 in pythoncad "pythoncad fails to exit when all windows are closed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112140 [01:45] ok, i'll try to reproduce that... [01:46] If you can reproduce it, I think it's worth fixing. [01:46] eolo999: Make sure you use the package in the feisty-proposed repository. [01:46] ? [01:47] Add an entry in your sources.list for feisty-proposed and then install just that package from it and then comment it back out. [01:47] ScottK: Ok looks good. Running through pbuilder now. [01:47] TheMuso: Thanks. [01:48] eolo999: That's where stuff that might be released to feisty, but needs some testing sits. [01:48] So you don't want to install all the stuff from that repository, just the one package. [01:49] i've pythoncad Version: 0.1.33-2 in my normal sources... [01:49] eolo999: The version in feisty-proposed fixes Bug #108612 [01:49] Launchpad bug 108612 in pythoncad "[apport] pythoncad crashed with ExpatError in parse()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108612 [01:49] You want 0.1.33-2ubuntu0.1~proposed1 [01:50] ok, ..... [01:50] If you want, just look on your sources.list and on the line for feisty universe, change feisty to feisty-proposed, update and it should be there. [01:51] gah stupid me. Forgot to enable univese in the pbuilder chroot. :) [01:51] universe even [01:51] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse [01:52] Looks right to me. [01:53] Just remember, install the one package you want, not all the updates. [01:55] eolo999: If you can reproduce it and want to fetch the source, you'll need an equivalent deb-src line in sources.list [01:55] did it...installing [01:55] and sourcing [01:57] working on it [01:58] confirmed process permanence after closing all win [02:00] eolo999: Cool. [02:00] ehm, cannot test gutsy [02:00] No problem. We are fixing Feisty right now. [02:00] New upstream version in Gutsy. === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] Once you figure out the problem, look in the source in the version in Gutsy to see if the code's the same. [02:01] Gotta run. Be back later. [02:01] ok. [02:02] Back sooner than I thought. Might have to run on short notice. [02:09] ScottK: Uploaded. [02:09] TheMuso: Thanks. Now to go bug pitti to remember not to reject it again... [02:09] heh [02:14] He's not around. I guess I'll have to bug him later.... [02:21] He's probably not around because it's 2:20am in Sevilla... === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] StevenK: That would do it. [02:49] Good night all. I think I'm calling an early night of it tonight. [02:49] rest up, ScottK [02:50] ScottK: you must be ill, it isn't even 9 there yet [02:50] carry on shipmate [02:50] Not sick, just had a REALLY bad day. [02:50] aww === nixternal is waiting anxiously for his pizza [02:51] and guess what, it is here!@!#@ [02:51] back in a bit [02:57] imbrandon: ping, would it be feasible to host a git tree on ubuntuwire for me, please? [03:02] ScottK, are you there? I've good news. [03:02] Yes. Still wrapping a few things up. [03:03] seems it was easy [03:03] Cool. [03:03] do you want me to send you the diff? [03:03] Please. I'll look at it in the morning. I'll be here most of the day tomorrow and we can package it up. [03:03] Just email it. [03:04] ok , i email the diff (one word!) === dabaR_ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-69-179.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] pidgin is on alioth.... === jdong grabs and builds === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] sent diff and marked bug as 'in progress'. [03:16] eolo999: Looks reasonable. I'll test it and we'll package it tomorrow. [03:17] our time zones are quiet different... [03:17] tomorrow, when? [03:19] in that function self is always an Interface instance and never an Image so the the program never entered the if block that lead to gtk.main_quit [03:20] hey guys congrats me, my second bug! [03:21] ScottK, What I ask my self is how could the developer miss that? [03:21] Stuff happens. The save fix I already did was just as simple. [03:22] eolo999: Next step is pull the Gutsy source and see if it has the same problem. If it does, look in the upstream svn and see if it's still there. [03:23] but Ctrl-C every time you run 'your' app is quite visible... [03:24] sorry the question and the lazyness. How do I get the gutsy source? === persia [n=persia@p1033-ipbf37marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] eolo999: Change the deb-src line in your sources.list from feisty to gutsy, update, apt-get source pythoncad. [03:29] no way to not always change apt sources? [03:29] Yes. [03:29] i did it from ubuntu packages and then dpkg-source -x ....... [03:29] That works too. [03:30] ok, so i did it [03:30] There is also dget too. [03:30] in gutsy it's corrected the same way i did it [03:31] OK. Then that's as far as you have to look. [03:31] no sorry === jdong kicks nspr [03:31] it was my version file in the editor [03:31] stupid uninstallable libnss's [03:31] We've all done that. [03:31] it's same as in feisty [03:31] the [03:32] Then we'll fix it there too. Yeah. You get to package two fixes. [03:32] More learning... [03:33] i try to install and see... if it is true [03:33] OK [03:33] If it is, the pythoncad source is available (IIRC) from svn at their web site. I'd check that too. [03:34] confirmed bug in gutsy too [03:35] Cool. [03:35] Head off to the svn now. === noesc [n=noesc@cpe-76-80-158-220.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] ok === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.216.173.168] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] HA! got pbuilder-satisfydeps to work on pidgin! [03:37] SUCK ON THAT PBUILDER!!! [03:37] ScottK: weren't you sleeping? [03:37] In theory. [03:37] lol [03:38] I've had a few cases where I apparently had a 2 hour IM conversation with a peer about code, but don't remember it [03:38] "Yeah man, thanks for the ideas, I didn't know you are online at 4AM" [03:38] "Umm.... I'm.... not?" [03:38] The key question is were you correct. [03:38] apparently the ideas were quite sound and inspirational [03:38] downloaded svn, but i'll check it tomorrow (event today 3.40 am)... === jdong shrugs [03:38] thanks ScottK [03:41] When I was in the Navy I had a job where they'd have to wake me up to make decisions in the middle of the night. I could usually remember I'd been called, but not what the problem was or what I'd decided. Usually, I'd just quietly go in and review the watch logs to see what I decided. [03:42] seems code from svn keeps that line ?! Perhaps I AM wrong! [03:43] I'll look into it tomorrow. Now at least we know how many bug reports you have to file after you get done fixing. [03:43] ok, I go to bed, thanks again [03:43] Good night. === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jellyfish2002 [n=alpha@bb219-75-97-140.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] hi motu [03:51] GAAH [03:51] the build failed at the LAST step [03:51] because of a few HTML files being in the wrong spod [03:52] Of course. The one it fails on is always the last step. [03:52] :) [03:52] I'm convinced [03:52] well I exported MAKEOPTS=-j3 [03:52] hopefully this makes pass 2 faster :D [03:52] if not, I'm just gonna screw the -dev pacakges [03:52] fortunately nobody has to know about my hacked up pidgin :) [03:52] eew that didn't sound good === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.166] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] lol [04:07] whoa, pidgin doesn't replace gaim === ScottK backports a package to sarge... [04:09] argh, it didn't pick up SSL? [04:11] wonder if just b-d on libgnutls-dev works === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] Heya gang [04:14] looks like pidgin might actually be backportable [04:14] it doesn't seem to fight with existing gaim [04:14] though both installed is kind of awkward [04:15] Backported from where? It's not in unstable, nor in Gutsy that I can see. [04:18] Fujitsu: I know, I'm predicting. It's in alioth SVN [04:19] beta7 is in Debian NEW, but doesn't look like final is yet. [04:19] Oh, it is now too. [04:21] final is in NEW also [04:21] jdong: its in svn ? [04:22] I got it from http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-gnome/packages/unstable/pidgin/?rev=0&sc=1 [04:22] does it make clean packages [04:22] the svn version ftbfs'ed me initially [04:22] due to nss3-dev -> nss-dev [04:22] and then it ftbfs'ed me building documentation. [04:22] ahh care to share your 3 files ? [04:22] so I err... hacked off that bit [04:22] e.g orig dsc and diff ? [04:23] imbrandon: still working on getting SSL/TLS support.... [04:23] imbrandon: but those were the only two changes I made to the SVN stuff [04:23] nss3->nss in control [04:23] removed the last line in debian/rules (cp *.html whatnot debian/....) [04:23] didn't bother investigating why that step failed. stupid me. [04:24] I'll see if it'll spit back a DSC [04:24] if it does then I'll do it [04:24] I kind of hackishly got the tarball so I'm not sure if dpkg-source will see it properly? [04:25] ness3 seems to work fine in gutsy gaim [04:25] hrm [04:26] bleh, it clobbered the tarball together with the diff [04:26] probably an underline. [04:27] imbrandon: nss3 results in uninstallable in feisty pbuilder; ebook was apparently linked against firefox's nss [04:28] imbrandon: http://pastebin.ca/471710 [04:28] pastebin; diff of my debian/ from the svn URL I posted [04:28] svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-gnome/packages/unstable/pidgin/trunk/debian [04:28] that svn looks empty [04:28] i hate websvn [04:28] grr [04:28] lol [04:28] :) [04:29] kinda silly the webviewer can't proxy [04:29] jdong: I think what I'm doing to pyspf to get it to build in sarge would remind you of your bad old days of unofficial backports ;-) [04:29] Good night all (really this time). [04:30] Gnight ScottK [04:30] imbrandon: aha, debian/rules, --enable-gnutls=no -> yes [04:30] :) [04:31] should be something like : --enable-perl --disable-silc --with-zephyr=/usr --enable-dbus --enable-gnutls=no [04:31] --enable-nss=yes --enable-cyrus-sasl [04:31] right ? [04:32] i think your straying a bit too far , i built it fine earlier with the gaim debain/ [04:32] imbrandon: I want --enable-gnutls=yes [04:33] else my gaim can't ocnnect to googletalk jabber [04:33] sure it can with nss=yes [04:33] hmm [04:33] nss didn't work for me then :( [04:34] SSL Library/Libraries......... : Mozilla NSS [04:34] ^^ my ./configure === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] how the.... === jdong grumbles [04:35] :) [04:35] I hate you.. in the loving way :) [04:37] SSL Library/Libraries......... : GnuTLS [04:37] good enough. [04:37] lol [04:37] well not good enough for the repos if we want to stay close to debian ;) [04:37] it doesn't look happy with libnss-dev providing libnss3-dev [04:37] imbrandon: good enough for my own computer :D [04:39] jdong: http://rafb.net/p/WU0isf59.html [04:40] imbrandon: you used nss3 or nss? [04:40] (pbuilder?) [04:40] Oh, cool. There's a mono plugin engine for pidgin? [04:40] RAOF: yeah, haven't figured out what is required to enable it [04:41] mono's going on its world domination campaign :) [04:41] :) [04:41] I do have to say DLR/Silverlight really looks/sounds cool [04:41] http://rafb.net/p/GTtX3l49.html [04:42] jdong: adobes version is better and semi opensource [04:42] imbrandon: those pastes are photoshopped. I reject your reality and substitute my own. [04:42] jdong: want me to just package it for you ? lol [04:42] that's a dangerous road [04:42] imbrandon: lol, please :). this on feisty? [04:43] you'll end up maintaining them, too. [04:43] yea fiesty [04:43] ok cool [04:43] that does a lot of blame-shifting too [04:43] I'm happy [04:43] crimsun: thats what i was afraid of, a gnome app :) [04:43] don't be afraid of gnome. Just its users. [04:43] hehe [04:44] ok give me ~20 minutes to see how this works [04:44] i should have something you can test === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] YAY MY PIDGIN FLIES [04:46] YAY!!! === jellyfish2002 [n=jellyfis@bb219-75-97-140.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] hi bddebian [04:50] Heya jellyfish2002 [04:50] any more things i can learn from u? [04:50] regarding the usage of linda & lintian [04:50] i not really sure of it [04:50] How much time do you have? === jdong grins [04:52] bug 112511 [04:52] Launchpad bug 112511 in feisty-backports "Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty" [Undecided,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112511 [04:52] bug 112513 [04:52] Launchpad bug 112513 in feisty-backports "Backport Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112513 [04:53] will you be around abt 2 hrs later? [04:53] coz i going for my lesson now [04:54] jellyfish2002: It's possible, its 11pm atm :-) [04:54] okie i try to rush back cya later bddebian [04:54] Later === jellyfish2002 [n=jellyfis@bb219-75-97-140.singnet.com.sg] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:56] "Tracker works without severe bugs (nothing like the beagle indexer)," [04:56] haha [04:56] I'm sure bhale would love to hear that === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eck [n=_@unaffiliated/eck] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] can someone explain do me how i can create a new patch for a package using dpatch? the wiki page isn't clear to me [05:10] differences between gaim & pidgin besides the name change? [05:11] DarkMageZ: some new icons, a few minor UI changes [05:11] I am not impressed [05:11] I have reverted to feisty gaim for now [05:12] i've stoped using gaim altogether and switched to emesene [05:12] yes, the dropping of protocol from the status icons has created quite a stir [05:13] eck: Does it already use dpatch? [05:13] bddebian: yes [05:14] eck: Take a look at the xterm package. You need to have rules like prepare: patch: and unpatch:. [05:14] eck: Or listen to bddebian, who knows well [05:14] eck: dpatch-edit-patch make changes exit [05:15] Then you'll need to add the newly created patch file to 00list === gpocentek [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] it appears that it does not use dpatch, since there is no 00list file in debian/patches -- is there something i should be looking for in the rules file (or elsewhere) to determine which patch system the package uses? [05:18] cdbs? [05:20] Heya gpocentek [05:21] hello bddebian [05:21] eck: Yes, in debian/rules is there a patch: target? Or as imbrandon says, does it use simple-patch-sys or any such thing? === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] eck is it a traditional rules file or a CDBS one? [05:22] i'm not sure -- the package is coreutils [05:23] post debian/rules up on a pastebin, i really don't fancy downloaing a package that big to take a loo [05:23] *look [05:23] sure, give me a sec [05:23] OOh! DBS. [05:24] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19201/ [05:25] eck: Use dbs-edit-patch to generate your patch [05:34] jdong: ok package cleaned up a bit, patches fixed [05:34] neat, it worked [05:34] and building [05:34] thanks everyone [05:35] cool === jdong has gone back to gaim already [05:35] pidgin didn't really fly with me too well [05:35] will let you test/guinypig when its done [05:35] I'd want my plugins to work [05:35] :) [05:35] without a massive rebuild [05:35] wow am I picky... [05:35] what plugins ? [05:35] do i need to assign the patch a number prefix, or should i just submit the patch on LP and let the maintainer take care of it? [05:35] libnotify, otr [05:35] eck: just submit the patch [05:39] jdong: you know you takin cycles away from my kde4 compile :) heheh [05:40] lol sorry :) [05:40] you don't have to let me have your package :) === jdong snickers.... [05:40] lol === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] Greetings all. [05:42] heya TheMuso [05:42] Heya TheMuso === UbuntuStats_ [n=IRCStats@bl5-80-225.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yosch [n=yosch@d223-34.RES.UMontreal.CA] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] how do I go about getting bug 107552 into feisty-proposed? [06:44] Launchpad bug 107552 in krename "krename crash if i want rename files again." [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107552 === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-74-187.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-125-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] hi [06:53] nixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU [06:55] minghua: thanks for that, the "When" section is exactly what I needed to see there. No need to get that one SRUd then, I am testing the Gutsy package now and will put it on revu shortly for someone to upload [06:55] err, not revu, but will put in for a merge rather [06:56] nixternal: also ask around when other people are here - I've never done an SRU so wiki links are all I can help :-) [06:57] ya, I have done a couple, but for some reason brainfarted on the idea of it for some reason [06:57] hmm, my dput upload doesn't show up. I guess I upped both binary and source *.changes. Any admin hanging around? [06:57] nixternal: When you get a working feisty fix, attach a debdiff to a bug in launchpad, and advocate that the bug be applied to feisty. Once someone uploads to -proposed, the archive admins will review and release (or not). [06:58] ya, I have already done that, but I don't think it is a big enough issue to warrant an SRU since it isn't sever === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-213-196-252-31.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.145.140.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tudenbart is now known as dothebart [07:07] and if there is a MOTU around, can you please look into bug 112528 [07:07] Launchpad bug 112528 in krename "[Gutsy Merge] krename_3.0.14-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112528 === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.166] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] nixternal: Looking. [07:13] rock on StevenK, thanks === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.216.173.168] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] Closes: #xxxx is a Debian-ism [07:25] StevenK: Is there a document somewhere that indicates that we are supposed to use (LP: xxxxxx)? [07:25] heh, something I have been using and am used to [07:25] I have never been told to use LP: and nobody has every said other words in the past year about (Closes: #xxxxx) [07:26] seeing as it has 0ubuntu1 in the version [07:27] persia: There's a spec about it, does that help? [07:27] StevenK: Sure. Which? [07:27] That's a hard question. [07:28] StevenK: I've looked a couple times since I first heard about LP: last week, and didn't find anything. [07:29] nixternal: Do you have an .orig for .14? [07:29] yup [07:29] you want me to dput this? [07:29] err [07:29] dput it where? :-) [07:29] actually I made the debdiff against .13 [07:29] sorry [07:30] Yes, you did. [07:30] You debdiff gave me pause to think when it needed patch -p4, too [07:30] s/You/Your/ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] hiya Hobbsee [07:32] nixternal: When managing a new upstream vesion to fix something, I recommend putting the new package in REVU, and submitting diff -urN of the debian/ directories and a link to REVU on LP (or at least that's what I did for feisty). [07:32] persia: I am doing it the way I have been for the last year, and the way I have been shown, but if your way is the correct way, then I can do that === minghua never finds a debdiff useful for a new upstream release, too much noise [07:33] minghua: I agree [07:33] minghua: but everytime I dput revu a new upstream release I never hear the end of it :) [07:33] nixternal: For new upstreams? the way you've done it is typical for new revisions, but hard to look at for new versions. [07:33] persia: no, I believe uploading new upstream releases of packages that already exists in archive is actually discouraged [07:33] minghua: Very much so. [07:34] minghua: and that is exactly what I have been harped at about :) [07:34] argh [07:34] I used to dput revu everything at first, hehe [07:34] I meant "uploading to REVU new upstream releases of packages" [07:34] hi nixternal! [07:34] nixternal: Can you fix the bug without a new upstream? If so, backport the fix patch to the old upstream, and only make a new revision. [07:35] persia: already have for feisty, but seeing as this is for Gutsy, to me that is rather rediculous, seeing it is just the beginning stages, the latest version fits nicely === persia is not qualified to have an opinion on new-upstream foo for gutsy, except for libjsw. [07:37] I wouldn't do -0ubuntu1 merges at this early time of a development cycle, but that's just me [07:37] minghua: If he wants to, it's his dime. [07:38] StevenK: but merging is difficult with -0ubuntu1, if Debian picks up the package. [07:38] StevenK: sure, I am just lazy (to avoid asking for sync later) :-P [07:38] persia: Yup. === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-198-063.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:38] I am doing all that I can so I can finally go MOTU this dev cycle, and before I get drug off for doc work and KDE 4 work === minghua finds out that krename is quite abandoned in Debian though === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] last maintainer-upload at 2005-12-05 [07:40] yay, krename === Hobbsee remembers dealing with that === StevenK likes renameutils [07:41] 'qmv -f do' ftw [07:42] It drops you into $EDITOR, and you can edit the filenames directly. As long as you don't change the order of the lines or delete lines, it deals. === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42] nixternal: You could always upload krename to Debian. [07:43] StevenK: ya, I need to do that seeing as they are 5 releases behind [07:44] nixternal: Who's the Debian maintainer? [07:44] dunno, would have to look [07:44] I don't think many will object if nixternal hijacks the package [07:44] Maintainer for source package krename is Roman Kreisel . [07:44] nixternal: I take back everything I've said about it. Please upload -0ubuntu1 (as you've done the last two versions). It will be a good thing :) [07:44] I hijacked it last year I think :) [07:44] nixternal: If you want to maintain it in Debian, I suspect either myself or white will be happy to sponsor you. [07:45] rock on StevenK, I will look it over here and get my Debian pbuilder/chroot rockin' [07:46] nixternal: I think it's still polite to mail the maintainer and debian-devel list before hijacking, though [07:46] Yes. [07:46] I won't upload it if nixternal hasn't done stuff by the book. [07:47] oh ya, I definitely wouldn't try and hijack it [07:47] I will definitely contact the original maintainer === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] Could someone strong in CVS-fu pleaes suggest how I would extract each of the patches applied to a specific directory in a CVS repository? [07:51] By careful reading of cvs log [07:52] StevenK: Great. Thanks! [07:53] haha [07:53] persia: It isn't really helpful, I suspect. :-) [07:54] especially not helpful if there are many files in the directory, I think [07:54] Yeah, but that's CVS being brain-dead. [07:54] using date is probably the safest bet? [07:54] Using revision numbers is safer. [07:54] StevenK: Actually, in my specific case, it is very helpful. I'm not very familiar with CVS, and I am trying to determine the set of patches that my upstream applied to some embedded library source to determine if I can safely use the system library source, so I actually need to read *all* the changes to the embedded source directory. [07:55] persia: cvs annonate might also help you. [07:55] persia: Followed by cvs di -r<> -r<>