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wrenIf I understand it correctly, MythTV uses a client-server model? Anyone know what work is performed on the client and what is performed on the server? How much load do the two machines get from typical usage? Anybody know?03:22
tgm4883_laptopare you looking at a single machine setup?03:26
tgm4883_laptopthe load would depend on a number of factors03:26
wrenWell, I'm considering a multiple machine setup for now...03:27
wrenWhat I'd like to do is have one multi-purpose server, hosting ftp, http, mythtv, and a variety of other services, but I'm not sure how feasible that is.03:28
tgm4883_laptopwell obviously it would depend on the machine specs, the traffic the machine would endure, the amount and types of programs you record03:30
tgm4883_laptopbut if you did have a multi machine setup and didn't use your backend as a frontend03:30
tgm4883_laptopthen i dont see a problem03:30
tgm4883_laptopwhat machine specs?03:31
wrenDunno, this is still in the "dream" phase  ;)03:31
tgm4883_laptophow much traffic on the ftp and http?03:31
wrenJust wasn't sure how much of the work was done on the server. I wouldn't want to do this sort of setup if recording a tv show would make my music server irresponsive.03:31
wrenVery very slight.03:31
wrenJust personal access, no serious hosting.03:32
tgm4883_laptopall i can really give you is a for instance03:32
tgm4883_laptopFor instance, i can record 2 HD programs and play an HD program at the same time03:33
tgm4883_laptopand access mythweb and everything is still responsive03:33
tgm4883_laptopI do this on only an athlon X2 3800+ with 1 Gb ram03:34
tgm4883_laptopThe bulk that the backend does is the recording.  And hardware encoders take most the work off the cpu03:34
wrenFair enough.03:35
tgm4883_laptopand HD streams in mpeg2 so no hardware encoder needed for that03:35
tgm4883_laptopdont plan on wireless for your HD frontends though03:35
wrenI wasn't.03:35
tgm4883_laptop(unless you go N)03:35
wrenCool, I think that pretty much answers my questions...03:35
tgm4883_laptopcool, anymore you know where to ask03:36
wren*nods* Thanks.03:36
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tgm4883_laptopanyone use mytharchive?04:02
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williammanda_i need help! :)04:09
williammanda_i can't log into phpadmin after I loaded it04:09
williammanda_isn't the user - root and the password - blank?04:09
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juskiI think there's a bug worth filing with the Feisty packages.  I had a problem last week but I put it down to 'one of those things' & worked around it.  Now there's a user in #mythtv-users who has experienced it.  Everything goes okay but when mythtv-setup is ran, some database tables are missing.  The only realistic way to fix it is to dump the db & create it again, then re-run mythtv-setup08:38
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superm1_juski, i've seen something similar to this a few times now09:43
superm1_i'm not sure if its a mysql or a mythtv bug worth filing though, because i've yet to reproduce it myself09:43
juskiI've only seen it the once too09:45
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daviey_superm1_, ping02:56
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tgm4883_laptopanyone use mytharchive?05:27
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superm1pong Daviey05:41
Davieycan't remember what i wanted05:41
Davieydum de dum05:41
Davieyoh yeah.... the ubiquity src05:41
Davieyhave you looked at casper?05:41
superm1i havent looked at it, but we are using it05:42
superm1in our livedisk already05:42
Davieytrying to figure it out myself05:43
superm1trying to understand how it works?05:44
superm1or trying to add functionality to it05:44
Davieythought we could have a 'standard' install option and 'advanced'05:44
Davieyadvanced including custom mysql pw05:44
Davieyand some other tweaks05:44
superm1well i think that would be handled better in ubiquity would it not?05:44
superm1are you thinking having an option at the boot screen?05:45
Davieywhat does casper actually do?05:45
superm1Standard Install / Live Mode05:45
superm1Advanced Install / Live Mode?05:45
superm1casper prepares a live env05:45
superm1with a user logging in, drivers loading05:45
Davieywhat are the casper hooks?05:45
superm1something else to my understanding is that it allows you to do things you cant normally do on read only media05:46
superm1the way it mounts the file system05:46
Davieyi get it now, ubiquity is a real mess!05:47
superm1but on the other hand, having tasksel at the beginning of boot would be an option05:47
superm1i'm just not sure it would be worth it given how many options will be present either way around05:48
superm1it would just hide about 3 or 4 screens05:48
Davieyadvanced.... i thought could include options such as auto Xvid encoding as a user job05:49
superm1well that will require the backend installed and a few configuration things regarding mysql already done05:49
Davieyi need to go for a bit, be back in 2005:49
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tgm4883_laptopanyone use mytharchive?08:19
superm1tgm4883_laptop, its been some time since i used it08:20
superm1but i have08:20
tgm4883_laptopsweet, couple quick questions for you then08:20
tgm4883_laptopi need to set the working directory for it08:20
tgm4883_laptopwhich i assume needs to have as much free space as im burning?08:20
superm1well more than that typically08:21
superm1needs up to 2x as much space08:21
superm1because of the re-encoding process and aall08:21
tgm4883_laptopshould i set it as the same as my tv storage then?08:22
superm1well thats up to you :)08:22
superm1i think the best thing personally to do is to have /var be a seperate partition08:22
superm1and then you do it somewhere in there08:22
superm1and have your recordings somewhere in there08:22
tgm4883_laptopis that per the guide?08:23
tgm4883_laptopthe /var on its own partition?08:24
tgm4883_laptopso what happens when my tv recordings take up that whole partition?08:25
superm1then you set the setting that lets you use it for other things08:25
superm1for like 5-10 gigs extra08:25
tgm4883_laptopah so it keeps 5-10 gigs free by expiring08:26
tgm4883_laptopand thats in the frontend setup?08:27
superm1cant remember offhand where it is at08:27
tgm4883_laptopfound it08:28
tgm4883_laptopits under setup>tv settings>general08:30
tgm4883_laptopso i should make the working directory something like /var/archive08:31
tgm4883_laptopwait, there is a share and a temp directory for mytharchive, do i set both to the /var/archive?08:34
superm1set both to /var/archive08:35
superm1should be easier08:35
superm1make sure you make that directory too08:35
tgm4883_laptopmake mythtv owner?08:36
superm1if you have a standalone box yes08:37
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defendguinis there a mythtv guide for feisty yet?08:43
tgm4883_laptopbeen there a long time08:45
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, thanks for the help, one more question.  I should be able to use the 1 hour per dvd to downsize an HD recording to fit onto a DVD, or do i need to focus more on the size of the file after reencoding?08:49
superm1it will handle the size for you09:21
superm1but i've had difficulties with HD stuff myself09:21
superm1i burn that stuff into native format09:22
tgm4883_laptopnative onto what?09:23
superm1u can burn to either native format (myth native)09:23
superm1or dvd format09:23
tgm4883_laptopcan you view mytharchive on a regular computer09:25
tgm4883_laptopi mean my native09:25
superm1its just mpg files09:25
superm1so thats what i usually do09:26
superm1just watch the size of the files09:26
superm1because 4.5 gigs or so is your limit09:26
tgm4883_laptopwill myarchive burn an iso?09:27
superm1well it will make files into ISOs09:29
superm1prior to burn09:29
tgm4883_laptopbut will it burn one09:29
superm1it will generate one, but it wont burn one that you have prior to start09:30
tgm4883_laptopwell it worked, i was able to burn something to a dvd09:40
defendguinwith feisty my remote should work out of the box?09:41
tgm4883_laptopyou need lirc09:42
defendguini thought lirc was installed by default09:42
superm1defendguin, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty09:42
defendguinwell that was much easier than edgy09:52
defendguini had loads of problems my first time around09:53
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defendguinthis whole lirc setup stinks10:41
defendguinso many steps10:47
defendguinwhat is the default password for the mythtv user that is created10:47
defendguinit never asked me10:48
tgm4883um no password?10:48
defendguingood though10:48
tgm4883there is the alternative to lirc though10:48
superm1what does the password have to do iwth lirc?10:49
defendguini am setting up the .lircrc and i want to su mythtv so that all the permissions are right10:49
superm1just sudo chown the file10:50
tgm4883mythtv isn't in the sudo group is it?10:50
superm1no, but your not logged into mythtv, are you?10:50
superm1when you need to set these permissions right10:51
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defendguinno im logged in as a different user10:54
defendguini don't think lirc is starting properly10:57
defendguinit says it could not load the required kernel modules10:57
Davieysuperm1, ping10:57
superm1poooong Daviey10:58
Davieyowww, that was loud10:59
superm1:), whats up?10:59
Davieycan you sanity test  a package?10:59
Davieyit's 37meg11:00
superm1u saw it in bzr?11:00
Davieydid i put it in there before?11:00
superm1i did i thought11:00
Davieyhmm.. you sure?11:00
superm1oh no i didnt put in bzr as of yet, licensing was questionable11:00
Davieyi forgot i put it in bzr...11:01
Davieydidn't have it on my new laptop11:01
Davieyso i have just rebuilt it11:01
Davieygrr... what a waste of time11:01
superm1did you just do it too?11:02
superm1mine was 101 megs11:02
superm1well what themes did you have in the one you did?11:02
superm1i have licensing sorted on all but one of them in mine11:02
Davieyi only have juski's11:02
superm1yea i've got those in there too11:02
superm1MythTV Media Center11:03
superm1MythTV Media Center OSD11:03
superm1Isthmus Blue11:03
superm1Elkin Wide11:03
superm1Syth Blue Wide11:03
superm1Syth Green Wide11:03
superm1Syth Lacquer Wide11:03
superm1Syth Lacquer Clean Wide11:03
superm1Project Grayhem11:03
superm1Project Gtayhem Wide11:03
superm1Blootube Wide11:03
superm1Blootube Lite Wide11:03
superm1Blootube OSD11:03
superm1Neon Wide11:03
superm1are the ones i've got in11:03
superm1sorry to burst your bubble :)11:04
Davieyi'll give up ;)11:04
superm1you can sort out the licensing for the questionable one if you want11:04
Davieyi thought woohoo - i can be marked as "initial debianization" & maintainer11:04
defendguini don't think the lirc_pvr150 module is being built :(11:05
Davieywhat one is that?11:05
superm1isthmus blue and mepo11:05
superm1let me forward you an email11:05
superm1there ya go11:06
defendguinsuperm1: am i supposed to be able to modprobe lirc_pvr150  ?11:06
superm1yes as long as you build it11:06
Davieysuperm1, notice - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/remote-control-support11:06
superm1yup, i saw some other pages related to that11:07
superm1about hte media center team11:07
defendguinsuperm1: i'm using these directions to the letter and that module doesnt seem to build https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty11:07
superm1check /etc/lirc/lirc-modules-source.conf, it should have the pvr150 module listed11:08
superm1when you did the dpkg-reconfigure when you selected it11:08
defendguinhmmm nope not listed11:09
defendguinjust edit it by hand?11:09
Davieysuperm1, has juski now added licence info!?11:09
superm1yes got him to do it11:10
superm1defendguin, yea you can just do it manually, if you want11:10
superm1in the LIRC_MODULES="" variable11:10
defendguinright i see11:10
Davieyi asked him to do it before xmas; he said he wouldn't and if i wanted i could pick a licence for him11:10
superm1but dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source will have the same effect11:10
Davieyfor the purposes of packaging11:11
Davieyand he also said.... he wanted his name nowhere near them11:11
superm1well guess he changed his mind11:11
superm1all GPL now11:11
Davieyanyway... i gtg for a while11:13
Davieycatch you later11:13
superm1okay later Daviey11:13
defendguinsuperm1: ok got that worked out11:14
superm1k good defendguin11:14
defendguini start lirc and then i run irw to see if it is picking up any of my remote key presses and i get nothing11:15
superm1the pvr150 module is for blasting only11:18
superm1the i2c module is for receiving11:19
defendguinok so i really only need the receiver11:19
superm1was that not clear by the page?11:20
superm1i could add some clarifications there if need be11:20
defendguina term like "blasting" was not obvious until it was put into the context of the sentence you just said11:21
defendguinbut in any case irw should display something when i press a button on the remote control?11:22
superm1yea if u have lirc_i2c loaded11:23
defendguinok it is loaded11:24
superm1then put lircd.conf in /etc/lirc11:25
superm1and irw should work when lirc is started11:26
defendguinalready done11:26
defendguinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=lircd.conf.hauppauge   i'm using this one11:28
defendguinrenamed to lircd.conf of course11:29
defendguinsuperm1: will irw pick up any ir signals if  i use my TV remote?  i'm guessing something could possibly be wrong with the remote11:34
defendguinsuperm1: i noticed this /usr/sbin/lircd --device=/dev/lircd0 --device=/dev/lircd0    when i ran ps ax  but when looking in /dev  i dont see the lircd0 device11:41
superm1give me a sec11:45
superm1do you have a "/dev/lirc0"11:46
superm1thats what you *should* have11:46
defendguinsorry i typed it wrong11:46
superm1does it exist?11:46
defendguinno it doesn't exist11:47
superm1when you load lirc_i2c, what does dmesg say?11:47
defendguinhow can i get it unloaded so that i can load it again11:50
defendguinwhen i try to rmmod it it wont let me11:50
defendguinkobject_add failed for i2c ir driver with -EEXIST11:51
defendguindont try to register things with the same name in the same directory11:52
superm1id say just reboot11:52
superm1it will freshly load for you11:52
superm1lot easier then sorting out this -11:52
superm1not sure why its not letting you rmmod11:52
defendguinok rebooting11:52
defendguinok same error message even after reboot11:56
superm1did it load on its own?11:56
superm1it should have?11:57
defendguinyes it did load on its own11:57
superm1then no worries?11:57
defendguinone sec11:57
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defendguinJRsuperm1: can i paste a little in here?11:58
superm1put in a pastebin preferabbly11:59
superm1on a website11:59
defendguinJRok one sec11:59
superm1fthats from the automatic modprobe?12:02
superm1or from your attempt later12:02
defendguinJRi rebooted logged in and ran dmesg12:02
superm1hm i dont k=even know what to say12:03
defendguinJRthat doesn't sound good at all12:04
superm1is there any /dev/lirc* devices at all alrready there?12:04
defendguinJRoh wait12:04
defendguinJRit is there this time :-)12:04
defendguinJRserver@server:~$ ls /dev/lirc*12:04
defendguinJR/dev/lirc0  /dev/lircd12:05
superm1well i wouldnt expect things to work, but take a look and see if it does12:05
defendguinJRnope no worky12:06
superm1i think it is time to push this to the lirc mailing list then12:07
superm1because you've got me12:07
defendguinJRlet me see if google knows12:08
defendguindo i have to do anything with the firmware to just get the receiver working?12:12
superm1you still have the lirc_pvr150 module in use too?12:13
superm1or for that fact - built?12:13
defendguinits loaded12:14
superm1well dont use it if your not using the transmitter12:14
defendguinok i took it out of the hardware.conf12:15
superm1rmmod it and lirc_i2c12:16
superm1and then reload juts lirc_i2c12:16
defendguink one sec12:18
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defendguinJR[   80.711940]  lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x71 (Hauppauge IR (PVR150))12:23
defendguinJR[   80.712425]  lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 1012:23
defendguinJRnone of the other error messages12:23
superm1good good12:23
defendguinJRand pvr150 is not loaded12:23
defendguinJRi rebooted12:23
defendguinJRstill nothing though12:25
defendguinJRin irw12:25
defendguinJRis there someway i can test to make sure my remote isn't the problem?12:25
superm1well cat /dev/lirc012:25
superm1when lircd isnt running12:25

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