[12:01] <simonhellstrom> i have nothing
[12:01] <aild> I was using the edgy version... I installed the ubuntu feisty.. now sometimes my screen goes blank and the computer freezes ..
[12:01] <amigamia> KrakensDen  thanks
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, and if you're on ubuntu now
[12:01] <aild> im trying to install the restricted drivers..
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, in the firefox search box
[12:01] <wimdows> stefg - cheers, I'll check it out
[12:01] <aild> the screen goes blank like... white lol
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, click on the google icon, and you can select a different search service
[12:01] <thelostpatrol> i need help compiling something
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, like the ubuntu package search :)
[12:01] <amigamia> KrakensDen  no i am not using ubuntu on this workstation
[12:02] <linkmaster> is there such thing as an "ubuntu shell"?
[12:02] <linkmaster> like theres unix shells..
[12:02] <stefg> wimdows: you'll probaly not want to run an apache-server just for simple straming you movies from the office to the bedroom :-)
[12:02] <Cafe_pyala> is there any tut on installing compiz on ati card in ubuntu 7.04
[12:02] <muszek> hi... I've installed (a long time ago... probably around hoary) java 1.5.0_05 from sun's site (not from repos).  What should I do to remove it?  Installing/removing java from repos doesn't touch those files.  java -version keeps returning "1.5.0_05"
[12:02] <amigamia> i am so disgusted with these problems that occured by the blackhat crackers to the server at the moment that i decided to jsut switch gears and go with another distro.
[12:02] <KrakensDen> amigamia, ah well. It's a nice feature
[12:02] <Hamm_laptop> any one familiar with Secretmaryo ?
[12:02] <usser> linkmaster: no shell is the same everywhere
[12:02] <linkmaster> what you mean?
[12:02] <usser> linkmaster: shells rather
[12:03] <linkmaster> ohh
[12:03] <amigamia> heh i am SO BITTER..
[12:03] <amigamia> anywa
[12:03] <usser> linkmaster: bash,csh,ksh they are all unix/linux
[12:03] <amigamia> anyway
[12:03] <linkmaster> oh thanks usser!!!!!!
[12:03] <usser> linkmaster: and theres ksh for mac even =)
[12:03] <KrakensDen> amigamia, yeah, horde2 and horde3 are in dapper, in universe
[12:03] <kb_>  amigamia: eh.. if you keep up with security patches, most distributions will be about the same, security-wise, i'd think
[12:03] <aild> brb
[12:03] <aild> reboot
[12:03] <wimdows> stefg - it wouldn't matter - I have a dedicated server box (which currently runs Windows 2003) with hardware RAID 5...but am thinking of switching to Ubuntu Server
[12:03] <usser> linkmaster: default in ubuntu is bash
[12:04] <Cafe_pyala> can any body help me installing compiz on ubuntu 7.04
[12:04] <Dave_is_sexy> can anyone tell me about continuing a multisession disc. i have tried all the gtk burners i can find, and nothing has this option visable
[12:04] <amigamia> well kb_ it was my error to have not thought about the horde updates, i admit that, but i completely forgot about metadot of which we dont even use and that was another problem that broke the camels back.
[12:04] <kb_> amigamia: metadot was the vulnerable package?
[12:04] <amigamia> yes
[12:05] <Elda> hurray, Im proud of myself.  Managed to retrieve my files I backed up onto the xbox and stick them back here
[12:05] <kb_> ah... yeah, you want to remove as many unneeded packages as possible, if security is your goal
[12:05] <amigamia> horde 2x stated the whole problem
[12:05] <pbeesley1989> I have a problem with xine, ffmpeg and w32codecs. If I remove ffmpeg, xine uses the w32codecs okay, but I want to have both installed and give priority to w32codecs since some are better quality. Can that be done?
[12:05] <amigamia> yes
[12:05] <Elda> Got a modified xbox, and Ive found aside from entertainment its good for backing stuff up between reinstalling OSes xD
[12:05] <amigamia> i learned a difficult lesson
[12:05] <nickspoon> Hey Jack.
[12:05] <nickspoon> Blah.
[12:05] <vbabiy> hey guys how can i get a user id in the bash sheel
[12:05] <vbabiy> shell
[12:06] <kb_> vbabiy: whoami
[12:06] <bobovski> hi all. is anyone willing to help me get a wired network connection going? I just installed ubuntu 7.04 on a friend's computer and the icon says there's no network connenction...what can I do now? All cables are plugged in etc
[12:06] <kb_> amigamia: yeah - i've never been cracked, to the best of my knowledge, but i've wiped out my own systems by accident before - it's not fun stuff
[12:06] <Dave_is_sexy> bobovski: sudo aptitude install network-manager
[12:06] <kb_> bobovski: what does ifconfig say?
[12:07] <amigamia> kd_ that is what has me so bitter, i just did that very thing.
[12:07] <stefg> vbabiy: $UID is an env-variable
[12:07] <amigamia> by accident
[12:07] <kb_> amigamia: ahh, ouch; that hurts
[12:07] <amigamia> yep
[12:07] <amigamia> less than 30 min ago.
[12:07] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you need to install package libcdio-cdda-dev
[12:07] <vbabiy> thank stefg
[12:07] <kb_> amigamia: ah, it hurts most when it's fresh
[12:08] <Cafe_pyala> is compiz stable
[12:08] <dooglus> !info libcdio-cdda-dev
[12:08] <ubotu> libcdio-cdda-dev: library to read and control digital audio CDs (development files). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.76-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 92 kB, installed size 180 kB
[12:08] <Alonea> Ok, I see a lot of people talking about this vmware thing, and I don't understand what its exact purpose is. I went to website, but I still don't get it.
[12:08] <amigamia> kb_ lol you bet. now i have to drive thru rush hour and figure what i want to do and on top of it i have to come up with an explanation of what happened.
[12:08] <bobovski> Dave_is_sexy: ok, no change
[12:08] <Cosmo_> when I boot up my laptop it goes into a text mode and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19172/ when I try to use control-d or input any other command it says bash: command not found, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:08] <ivanzin> anybody to help me??
[12:08] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: ta. yes i've figured that now. this 'building tag database' in aptitude seems so unnesessary
[12:08] <bobovski> kb_: ifconfig gives a >
[12:09] <kb_> Alonea: it's an emulator; it lets you run more ('virtualized') operating systems at the same time, without having them interfere with each other, on one machine
[12:09] <Dave_is_sexy> bobovski: oh. did it install?
[12:09] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I avoid aptitude and just use apt-get
[12:09] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you'll need libcdio-paranoia-dev too
[12:09] <kb_> bobovski: ehm, that's odd
[12:09] <Firippu> can sombody help me install fluxbox, i have it installed but gnome only starts
[12:09] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: it depends on your video drivers and what platform your run it on
[12:09] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: oh aptitude keeps track of dependencies. much better if you come to uninstall something
[12:09] <MenZa> Firippu: change your session on gdm
[12:09] <MenZa> your login screen
[12:09] <dooglus> Firippu: from the login screen, click the 'options' thing in the bottom left and select session 'fluxbox'
[12:09] <linkmaster> is it possible to dualboot windows and ubuntu?
[12:09] <kane77> Firippu, change the session at the login screen
[12:10] <crdlb> linkmaster: yes
[12:10] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I use debfoster for that
[12:10] <Cafe_pyala> Crdlb: I have ati card and ubuntu 7.04
[12:10] <bobovski> Dave_is sexy: not that I could see
[12:10] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: ati what?
[12:10] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: noted
[12:10] <linkmaster> crdlb: is there a guide somewhere on the web?
[12:10] <Elda> Hmmm, I have to create a folder to store some junk.  Where would be a good idea to do it?  Im thinking on putting it in /etc/ but I dont know where is a "good" place to put it :> Sorry if I sound like a complete idiot, hehe
[12:10] <bobovski> kb_: what are you looking for from the ifconfig reply?
[12:10] <bobovski> kb_: he had a mistype
[12:10] <h4wk0> !lvm
[12:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:10] <amigamia> is something wrong with the mirrors?
[12:10] <crdlb> !dualboot | linkmaster
[12:10] <kane77> Elda, /tmp
[12:10] <ubotu> linkmaster: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:10] <stefg> !fhs | Elda
[12:10] <ubotu> Elda: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:10] <dooglus> amigamia: I think so.  Every time I look in them I see an ugly old man looking back.
[12:10] <linkmaster> thanks!!!!!
[12:10] <kb_> bobovski: if you have any network interfaces up (a few letters followed by a number in the first column)
[12:11] <bobovski> eth0 and lo seem to be there
[12:11] <amigamia> dooglus :D
[12:11] <Cafe_pyala> Crdlb: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M
[12:11] <kb_> bobovski: ok, is it a wired network with fixed ip addresses, or dhcp?
[12:11] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you'll need package libcddb2-dev too :)
[12:11] <Firippu> i found it. thanks all!
[12:11] <Elda> kane, its not a temporary file though :>  Its a ollection of images etc that I want to store
[12:11] <vbabiy> !cifs
[12:11] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: lots of dependencies for this one!
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <stefg> Elda: /etc is probably the worst place to it... /var/junk ?
[12:11] <bobovski> kb_: it's a dsl connection behind a router. should we reset the router?
[12:11] <Elda> kk
[12:11] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: then you have to enable the restricted driver and set up Xgl, but it should be (relatively) stable, and it will be FAR more stable than beryl
[12:11] <bobovski> kb_: wired with me on the wireless on my laptop atm
[12:11] <crdlb> because it's Xgl
[12:12] <kane77> Elda, so why not in $home?
[12:12] <Cafe_pyala> so i need to install xgl or compiz
[12:12] <kb_> bobovski: hm... i wouldn't start by doing that.  i'd make sure you had an ip (either self-assigned in the right range, or from dhcp), and then try to ping the router
[12:12] <OuZo> will Ubuntu-live be broadcast or will there be videos on youtube of what happened? thanks
[12:12] <Elda> bleh beryl is evil :> I spent an hour or so isntalling it and preparing it.  The manager came up and all that but no nifty windows rotatey boxy thing
[12:12] <amigamia> umm are the mirrors down?
[12:12] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: compiz is installed with ubuntu feisty, but you need to install and set up Xgl
[12:12] <bobovski> kb_: ok, how does he check if he has an ip?
[12:12] <Cafe_pyala> ok
[12:13] <stefg> !beryl
[12:13] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:13] <Dave_is_sexy> bobovski: oh you're lucky your wirelsss works. i am on the floor cos mine doesn't!
[12:13] <Elda> ^ evil
[12:13] <kb_> bobovski: ifconfig - check for a line like inet addr:192.168.0.3  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:13] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: enable the restricted driver in the restricted manager, and follow method A of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[12:13] <crdlb> then just enable desktop effects from the Xgl session
[12:13] <Hadron> something strange just happened. I booted and gnome said its settings were at odds with x. I selected the gnome ones over x. As a result my german kbd settings were. lost. Now I have set them back my tilde ~ key mus be pressed twice to get the tilde character to appear. Anyone have any ideas how to correct this?
[12:14] <kb_> Hadron: nodeadkeys
[12:14] <bobovski> kb_: there's an inet addr on lo
[12:14] <Hadron> kb_: where do I specify this in gnome?
[12:14] <kb_> bobovski: yes, 127.0.0.1 - ignore that, i care about eth0
[12:14] <bobovski> kb_: nothing on eth0
[12:14] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: yeah come to #ubuntu-effects
[12:14] <kb_> Hadron: no idea, i haven't used gnome in about 7 years, sorry
[12:14] <Dave_is_sexy> config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/Makefile.in
[12:14] <Dave_is_sexy> why?
[12:14] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: this: "sudo apt-get install libcdio-dev libcdio-cdda-dev libcdio-paranoia-dev libcddb2-dev" installed all the deps I needed to get ./configure to run
[12:15] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: it ran now, just the error above ^^
[12:15] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I have that file: -rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 31504 2007-02-12 00:05 ripoff-0.8.2/src/Makefile.in
[12:15] <bobovski> kb_: I mean no inet etc listed after eth0
[12:15] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: don't you have a Makefile.in in the 'src' directory?
[12:15] <kb_> bobovski: ok - is the router set up to give out addresses via dhcp?
[12:16] <user-land> Hi, is it easy to copy Grub from the MBR of one disk to the other ?
[12:16] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: er, yes i do
[12:16] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: it's part of the standard source release, from sf.net
[12:16] <bobovski> kb_: hurm. Let me check. it was working out ok on windows. Let me see...
[12:16] <kb_> user-land: the best way to do that is probably to run grub and just install it onto the new drive
[12:16] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: did you try running config.status instead of ./configure?  (you shouldn't)
[12:16] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: ok, well now i get errors about vorbis.so
[12:16] <kb_> bobovski: then it probably does
[12:17] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: from ./configure?
[12:17] <Cosmo_> when I boot up my laptop it goes into a text mode and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19172/ when I try to use control-d or input any other command it says bash: command not found, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:17] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: or from make?
[12:17] <Dave_is_sexy> from make
[12:17] <bobovski> kb_: the machine in question cannot access the router
[12:17] <kb_> bobovski: what do you mean?
[12:17] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: config.status not found
[12:17] <dooglus> Cosmo_: I think you should boot from the live CD and run fsck on your root partition from there.  it's telling you the partition is corrupted somehow
[12:18] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I didn't try a 'make' yet.
[12:18] <Cosmo_> dooglus: thanks
[12:18] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I did now, and it went through fine.  can you pastebin the error from 'make'?
[12:18] <timewriter> should i choose the 64bit version , for Intel pentium D ?
[12:18] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: (assuming ./configure has run without error already)
[12:18] <bobovski> kb_: like, if I open a browser and then type in the router address, it says it can't get to it
[12:18] <shatrat> timewriter, I wouldnt, more trouble than it's worth
[12:19] <timewriter> ok
[12:19] <crdlb> timewriter: no there's no good reason to use 64bit on a desktop
[12:19] <kneeki> Hmm, an SVN is something I add to my Software Sources correct?
[12:19] <kb_> kb_: ok, well, try running dhcpcd eth0 or dhcpclient eth0 (i'm not sure which ubuntu uses)
[12:19] <kb_> erm, bobovski even
[12:19] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471461
[12:19] <timewriter> hmm
[12:19] <timewriter> i get 404
[12:19] <kneeki> !svn
[12:19] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[12:19] <timewriter> when i try to download
[12:20] <user-land> what should i tell grub, kb_ ? do i need to run it as root ?
[12:20] <amigamia> ubuntu.com is having problems?
[12:20] <kb_> user-land: what you need to tell it depends on what the drive is, and yes, you should run it as root
[12:20] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: can you pastebin the output from "ls -l src/Makefile.in"
[12:20] <robzbob> hi all, how do I adjust my firewall settings?  I tried to install webmin but synaptic said it could not find it.
[12:20] <user-land> sda, kb_
[12:20] <kb_> user-land: ok, do you have any ide drives?
[12:21] <dooglus> !firestarter
[12:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:21] <robzbob> ty
[12:21] <hellcattrav> oi how do i get to teh old printer adder, where I could actually add the IP of teh pritner
[12:21] <timewriter> Internet explorer has problems i guess
[12:21] <timewriter> with mozilla everything went fine
[12:21] <user-land> yes, hdc has the correct ubuntu grub entry.
[12:21] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471468
[12:22] <kb_> user-land: ok, well, you'll need to figure out which one grub is seeing as hd0 and which as hd1
[12:22] <kb_> then, whichever one maps to sda, you should type root (hdX) on
[12:22] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: do you still have the downloaded ripoff-0.8.2.tar.gz file?  I suggest you blow away your ripoff-0.8.2 directory and start again.
[12:22] <Hadron> kb_: just FYI I had to do an xserver reconfig to update my xorg.conf
[12:22] <bobovski> kb_: neither of those commands were recognized
[12:22] <Dave_is_sexy> ok
[12:23] <kb_> bobovski: hm, does dh <tab> show anything?
[12:23] <timewriter> do i need to use the generic kernel ?
[12:23] <timewriter> brb
[12:24] <hellcattrav> hey
[12:24] <hydoskee> I have a network card that yields the following from 'lspci' "03:10.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)", and it only works about half the time
[12:24] <hellcattrav> how do i use a wireless printer?
[12:24] <hydoskee> any ideawhy?
[12:24] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[12:24] <SpaceBass> anyone using synergy for screen control?
[12:24] <atorres> whats happenen
[12:24] <jussi01> hellcattrav: is it ipp or?
[12:25] <bobovski> kb_: yes, a few
[12:25] <kb_> bobovski: ok, what are they?
[12:25] <bobovski> kb_: dhcdbd
[12:25] <atorres> synergy works great on ubuntu
[12:25] <dooglus> SpaceBass: I tried it a few days ago.  seemed to work OK
[12:25] <bobovski> kb_: dhclient
[12:25] <hellcattrav> jussi01:  not sure  im on my network but things have changed from 6.10 KDE, compared to now Im using 7.04 GNOME
[12:25] <kb_> bobovski: ok, the second is the one you want
[12:25] <dooglus> SpaceBass: except I was thinking it was a VNC replacement, but it isn't
[12:25] <amigamia> is it possible to use slax creator and write the ubuntu server 6x to a usb memory stick?
[12:25] <SpaceBass> dooglus, I'm having a problem running it as a client on ubuntu
[12:25] <[Meta] > Guys. :(
[12:25] <SpaceBass> dooglus, says it cannot open the display
[12:26] <[Meta] > I just installed Ubuntu for the second time ever.
[12:26] <[Meta] > And it didn't let me specify a username.
[12:26] <[Meta] > So I can't log in.
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: all I ran was "synergyc -f 192.168.1.13" and it worked fine
[12:26] <wimdows> what's the name of the other OSS streaming software something like versity, diversity or something
[12:26] <bobovski> kib_: ok let me see
[12:26] <SpaceBass> dooglus, hummm
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: you'll need to have logged on to ubuntu already
[12:26] <SpaceBass> dooglus, reposititory or comple?
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: repo
[12:26] <Kezman74> when Feisty creates the MythTV user, what password does it give it?
[12:26] <Slick_> hey guys, I've just installed ubuntu and applied the patch which means feisty wont come up with an error with multiple drives.  I've reconnected my drives and want to mount them, how do you do that, so it will automatically mount them everytime you start ubuntu?
[12:26] <SpaceBass> dooglus, thats the issue! I'm not logged into the console...just via ssh
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: note the 'c' on the end of the command name
[12:26] <bobovski> kb_: it works. You rule. Will it wtill work upon restart?
[12:27] <dooglus> SpaceBass: I think it's for controlling a machine you're already logged on to, not for logging on to it
[12:27] <hellcattrav> jussi01: there was a menu in kde where i could select manufacter and model, plus where the IP was, but Im not sure with 7.04 or GNOME
[12:27] <dooglus> SpaceBass: you realise it can't share displays?  only keyboard and mouse
[12:28] <SpaceBass> dooglus, yep
[12:28] <kb_> bobovski: nope, you'll need to tell ubuntu to remember it.  i've not succesfully even booted into ubuntu yet, much less configured my network, so I don't know how to tell it that off the top of my head, though someone mentioned the possibility of installing some kind of network manager program, which would probably know how; otherwise, you or i could check the ubuntu docs
[12:28] <[Meta] > Help!
[12:28] <dooglus> multi-lcd?  how's that work on a laptop?
[12:28] <kb_> hi [Meta] 
[12:28] <[Meta] > Hi kb_
[12:28] <jussi01> hellcattrav: try localhost:631 in firefox
[12:28] <dooglus> one display inside and one outside?
[12:28] <bobovski> kb_: ok. thanks a lot, I really appreciate it
[12:28] <jussi01> !netsplit
[12:28] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:29] <Slick_> how do you mount drives in ubuntu, so that they will always mount everytime you restart?
[12:29] <TaSo> when I do "ssh localhost" i get 'Permission denied (publickey,password).' ... any clue?
[12:29] <kb_> Slick: add them to /etc/fstab
[12:29] <wimdows> Slick_ you add them to you /etc/fstab
[12:29] <[Meta] > I can't log in. :( I don't have a username even though it was supposed to ask during setup.
[12:29] <dooglus> Slick_: I would edit /etc/fstab.  maybe there's a gui to do that for you, I don't know
[12:29] <Slick_> is there a guide to doing that, I'm new to ubuntu
[12:29] <dooglus> [Meta] : boot from the live cd and use 'adduser' to make a user account
[12:29] <Hamm_laptop> Slick_: i would download automatix  and install the ntfs/fat32  mounter
[12:29] <kb_> [Meta] : hm.. easiest method is probably a boot cd; boot using that, get a shell using sudo, then run useradd -m yourusername
[12:29] <kb_> [Meta] : and then run passwd yourusername
[12:30] <[Meta] > I can't run the live cd
[12:30] <[Meta] > ??
[12:30] <hydoskee> I get an "unknown hardware address type 801"
[12:30] <t9ace22> PART
[12:30] <dooglus> [Meta] : when you boot, do you get the option of 'recovery mode'?  if so, that would do it
[12:30] <Slick_> Hamm_laptop cheers i'll try that
[12:30] <[Meta] > Oh.
[12:30] <Hamm_laptop> Slick_:  google   automatix
[12:30] <[Meta] > I tried doing that last night, but I'm crappy at Ubuntu commands
[12:30] <jussi01> hellcattrav: is that working for you?
[12:30] <Kezman74> Sorry, I got kicked. When Feisty makes the mythtv user, what password does it give it. Or how can I change it?
[12:30] <[Meta] > I forget them all from around January.
[12:30] <wimdows> Slick_ - here's a tutorial on editing fstab on the UbuntuForums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[12:31] <dooglus> Kezman74: "sudo passwd mythtv"
[12:31] <kb_> [Meta] : well, now we've reminded you
[12:31] <[Meta] > I don't understand.
[12:31] <[Meta] > Last time, it just let me set up an account during installation
[12:32] <Kezman74> dooglus: I'm such an idiot, ty
[12:32] <BryanJK> ...could someone help me with a missing dependency? I have KibaDock and KibaDock plugins Deb packages, but whenever I launch either one... it says it needs the other. How do ... install them?
[12:32] <[Meta] > (And yes, I was using exactly the same CD)
[12:32] <kb_> [Meta] : yes, that's weird
[12:32] <vbabiy> hey guys can i use mount to mount more then one directory at once
[12:33] <dooglus> BryanJK: "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" ?
[12:33] <dxdemetriou_> can I force firefox to use limited amount of memory? It is very hungry
[12:33] <tarzeau> vbabiy: yes
[12:33] <[Meta] > kb_: I just thought I hadn't been paying attention to it last night.
[12:33] <jussi01> BryanJK: sudo dpkg -i deb1.deb deb2.deb
[12:33] <tarzeau> dxdemetriou_: see ulimit
[12:33] <KNY> hey, anyone have experience getting sound to work in UT2004?
[12:33] <vbabiy> tarzeau:  how
[12:33] <dooglus> dxdemetriou_: you can tell it not to cache so many pages somehow
[12:34] <BryanJK> just a sec jussi01 & dooglus
[12:34] <kb_> yay, ubuntu is -finally- booting. that was a minor marathon.
[12:34] <dooglus> dxdemetriou_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity
[12:34] <bloodMuffin> how can i make Konsole transparent? i check transparent and its still not transparent
[12:34] <Elda> you have to set the transparency
[12:34] <imperfect-> Is there a way to use fstab to mount a drive a certain createmask for user,group or even just octal?
[12:34] <kb_> ugh, the graphical bootloader's password field is way too small
[12:35] <jussi01> !fstab | imperfect-
[12:35] <scott_> Hi all, what would you do if ldconfig -v listed a library but ldd programname said it couldn't find it?
[12:35] <[Meta] > kb_ when I get the shell... do I type "useradd -m username"? Or "run useradd -m username"
[12:35] <codecaine> hi anybody know a good respirtory for festy so i don't have the basic one?
[12:35] <ubotu> imperfect-: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:35] <tarzeau> kb_: screenshot?
[12:35] <Wriest> how come when I open up pages the screen goes black?
[12:35] <dooglus> imperfect-: you can specify the umask in /etc/stab: e.g. "UUID=10CA-7773  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[12:35] <kb_> tarzeau: i'm sure it's the normal size, it's just only about half the length it needs to be for me to be able to type my password without it scrolling and hence my not being able to see that i'm typing more characters
[12:35] <jussi01> codecaine: what are you asking?
[12:35] <BryanJK> jussi01: " dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[12:35] <joel> #ubuntuhelp
[12:36] <fiveiron> is there a way to "cat" the contents of a file into my clipboard?
[12:36] <vbabiy> tarzeau: vbabiy@vbabiy-laptop:~$ sudo mount /mnt/MP3/ /mnt/ServerD
[12:36] <vbabiy> mount: /mnt/MP3/ is not a block device
[12:36] <dooglus> imperfect-: that's not the default for creating new files though - it's how files look on a vfat fs
[12:36] <vbabiy> tarzeau: is that wrong
[12:36] <codecaine> so I can have a big choice from download
[12:36] <codecaine> s
[12:36] <tarzeau> vbabiy: yes it's wrong
[12:36] <jussi01> BryanJK: doo you really want kiba dock?
[12:36] <tarzeau> vbabiy: you need something from /dev/whatever instead of /mnt/MP3/
[12:36] <fiveiron> vbabiy: you dont mount a directory to a directory.... you mount a device to a directory
[12:36] <kb_> vbabiy: what are you trying to do?
[12:36] <Wriest> how come when I open up pages the screen goes black?
[12:37] <dooglus> Wriest: are they black pages?
[12:37] <jrib> Wriest: are you using beryl?
[12:37] <BryanJK> jussi01: yea, unless you can reccomend a nice program launcher type widget
[12:37] <jussi01> BryanJK: Id reccomend having a look at kooldock
[12:37] <vbabiy> kb i have fstab recorders for these directory i need to mount them using these recorders
[12:37] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471481
[12:37] <Elda> Looking at the options, the transparency for the console is fake transparency
[12:37] <dooglus> BryanJK: the avant-window-navigator is quite nice
[12:37] <Elda> The only thing it will show is your background image
[12:37] <BryanJK> jussi01: okay ill check that out, you too dooglus
[12:37] <joel> hello
[12:37] <Elda> It wont actually let you see items through your window, iirc beryl does that though
[12:38] <jussi01> BryanJK: kooldock is in the repos...
[12:38] <[Meta] > kb_ when I get the shell... do I type "useradd -m username"? Or "run useradd -m username"
[12:38] <dooglus> BryanJK: avant looks like this: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/avant.png
[12:38] <jussi01> !info kooldock feisty
[12:38] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[12:38] <joel> erm i compiled my kernel with a guide i found
[12:38] <kb_> [Meta] : the former
[12:38] <joel> works good but cant find the nvidia drivr now
[12:38] <[Meta] > Thanks. :)
[12:38] <jussi01> BryanJK: works in gnome too
[12:38] <sacater> yes
[12:38] <joel> any1 can help me?
[12:38] <Pelo> joel,  what is your issue ?
[12:38] <kb_> joel: if you tell us what your problem is, maybe; if not, no :)
[12:39] <[Meta] > I like your icons, dooglus
[12:39] <joel> i recompiled my kernel using a guide i found
[12:39] <Wriest> Yes
[12:39] <BryanJK> dooglus: that looks nice
[12:39] <joel> it works good and quick but cant isntall nvidia driver
[12:39] <[Meta] > Very nice.
[12:39] <BryanJK> jussi01: ...kooldock only works in KDE doesn't it?
[12:39] <Elda> cooldock creates a mac like scrolly bar?
[12:39] <ubuntu> hi, how do you recommend to partitioning a 80GB HD in order to install ubuntu??
[12:39] <[Meta] > How do you actually get the icons like that?
[12:39] <imperfect-> well
[12:39] <Wriest> jrib: yes I'm using beryl
[12:39] <dooglus> BryanJK: avant needs beryl or compiz to work
[12:39] <imperfect-> I need a creatmask ;)
[12:39] <BryanJK> I have both...
[12:39] <Pelo> !nvidia > joel
[12:39] <jrib> Wriest: it's a bug, happens when your card runs out of memory
[12:39] <imperfect-> How do I do creatmask
[12:39] <Elda> Ubuntu, I had it do the automatically so it used ALL of the 80 gigs xd
[12:40] <jrib> Wriest: maybe #ubuntu-effects knows more
[12:40] <joel> what can i do?
[12:40] <jussi01> BryanJK: no it works in gnome also
[12:40] <Elda> There should be an option to have it do it automaticall
[12:40] <Wriest> ok thanx
[12:40] <kb_> wow, dooglus - your gnome setup is actually pretty :)
[12:40] <Elda> It will set up boot/swap/ etc
[12:40] <Pelo> joel,  why did you recompile the kernel in fhe first place ?
[12:40] <[Meta] > Elda, if you're installing Windows with it, you should install Windows first
[12:40] <dooglus> kb_: it's pretty much the default, only with the bottom bar replaced by avant-w-n
[12:40] <imperfect-> Is there a way to do create mask?
[12:40] <joel> cuz i wanted more perfomance
[12:40] <sabrina__>  /server synapthein.org
[12:40] <Elda> Well yeah :>  I suppose
[12:40] <joel> :)
[12:40] <xtknight> wimdows, about your previous question: try /var/log/gdm.n.log  where n is a number between 0 and 9 (highest being the last recorded log which usually only goes up to about 1)
[12:40] <sabrina__> uhh, sorry :)
[12:40] <ubuntu> Elda: But i had windows in that partition too
[12:40] <BryanJK> "Failed to check for installed and available applications" >__>
[12:41] <Pelo> joel, how's your permormance now ?
[12:41] <kb_> dooglus: hm... ok, well, the default's gotten a lot better in these last few years then
[12:41] <joel> perfect
[12:41] <joel> i think lol
[12:41] <Elda> Well, what I did when I worried about windows was set how much I wanted for linux, set up a 25 ish (still probably too big) boot partition and used about 2 gigs for a swap
[12:41] <joel> i just switched from windows
[12:41] <Pelo> joel,  chek you pm windows for instrctions on the nvidia driver
[12:41] <dooglus> kb_: refresh that URL I pasted - at first I accidentally only snapped the terminal window - now it's the whole desktop.  uglier now?
[12:41] <Meshezabeel> heya, just wondering if serial mice are now detected in edgy? I know they weren't detected in the previous two versions of ubuntu
[12:41] <joel> dammit windows lagging my pc
[12:42] <nixnoob> anyone know which version of the rt61 driver was used in feisty?
[12:42] <joel> and got rid of it
[12:42] <knoppix> Hello
[12:42] <nixnoob> was it the beta1 or 2 of the serialmonkey rt2x00 driver?
[12:42] <dooglus> congratulations joel :)
[12:42] <Elda> Right now though Im tired of windows, after my horrid experience with vista on this older laptop
[12:42] <lordsaka> hello
[12:42] <amigamia> why is Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2011 ?
[12:42] <Raptor45> been thinking of trying out gfxboot... if I mess up grub, how can I restore it?
[12:42] <nixnoob> LTS=LONG TERM SUPPORT
[12:42] <MenZa> amigamia: 6.06 is Long Term Support
[12:42] <Raptor45> nixnoob, rt61 didn't work out of the box for me
[12:42] <Pelo> amigamia,  lts means, long term support
[12:42] <MenZa> And it's only the servers that get 5 years, desktops get 3 years IIRC
[12:42] <kb_> dooglus: looks the same to me, i may've been slow to load it and gotten that version the first time
[12:42] <joel> ya im pretty hapy with it but im too curious and get in issues like this one
[12:42] <Elda> how come 7.04 doest get that? :>
[12:42] <dooglus> kb_: ok
[12:42] <nixnoob> raptor45 me either im just trying to figure what version of the driver is included in feisty
[12:43] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:43] <Meshezabeel> er, what I meant was: is 7.04 capable of detecting serial mice? 6.06 and 6.10 weren't capable
[12:43] <Raptor45> nixnoob, ah... the legacy drivers worked for me though
[12:43] <amigamia> any comments on the server?
[12:43] <dooglus> kb_: so you're not using GNOME?  or not using feisty?
[12:43] <Raptor45> nixnoob, can't wait till it works out of the box
[12:43] <Ace2016> how do i use gfxboot themes in grub, the old tutorials don't work in feisty
[12:43] <Ace2016> can anyone help?
[12:43] <nixnoob> raptor i believe the legacy drivers are whats being used in feisty i just wanna kno if they are beta1 or beta2?
[12:43] <Wriest> What about the sounds
[12:43] <BryanJK> jussi01 or dooglus:  http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6296/umid3.png  ...any idea what thats about?
[12:44] <Raptor45> nixnoob, I'm pretty sure ubuntu uses the r2x00 driver instead of legacy
[12:44] <Wriest> I can't get it to make any noise when someone answere me
[12:44] <Elda> Meshezabeel, not quite sure about the serial mice :>  Let me see if I have one around here though to check.  If its not here it would be at home
[12:44] <joel> erm got a problem it said i need to install this
[12:44] <nixnoob> raptor45 i see thank you
[12:44] <kb_> dooglus: i booted into feisty all of about 10 minutes ago :)
[12:44] <Meshezabeel> Elda: ok thanks :)
[12:44] <jussi01> BryanJK: just follw those instructions
[12:44] <joel> You need to install the package
[12:44] <joel>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
[12:44] <joel> for this program to work.
[12:44] <Elda> meh, Im sorry no mice here :/
[12:44] <nixnoob> raptor45 i need to blacklist the rt2x00 driver for the legacy ones to work yes?
[12:44] <MenZa> so install it, joel
[12:45] <damacus> hello.
[12:45] <kb_> dooglus: i used to use gnome, but around 2000 or so, but then i switched to blackbox, then kde around '03 or '04
[12:45] <MenZa> joel: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
[12:45] <dooglus> BryanJK: I'd close the update manager, open a terminal, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and pastebin the result if I was you
[12:45] <Jay2> damacus, hi
[12:45] <Bitmess> How can I mount NTFS volume in read/write?
[12:45] <Raptor45> nixnoob, hmm was a while ago I did that... as I recall, I just went through the tests to build/install the legacy driver and it all came up fine
[12:45] <joel> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
[12:45] <southafrikanse> What is the Ubuntu effects channel please?
[12:45] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g > Bitmess  check your pm window
[12:45] <damacus> does anyone know why there isn't yet a USN for http://torrentfreak.com/multiple-vulnerabilities-discovered-in-ktorrent/ ?
[12:45] <dooglus> kb_: I've used KDE on and off, but don't really like it.  Not sure why really.  GNOME's dumbing down is annoying, but I don't like KDE much either...
[12:45] <damacus> or is the current version in ubuntu already patched?
[12:46] <Pelo> southafrikanse,  #ubuntu-effects
[12:46] <southafrikanse> Pelo: Thank you
[12:46] <dooglus> kb_: I quite like the Windows interface to be honest :)
[12:46] <kb_> dooglus: yeah - between gnome 1, and kde 2, i was totally in favor of gnome - but i've liked kde from 3.1 onwards, while i haven't liked gnome2
[12:46] <peepsalot> is there a way to back up a whole partition into a file on another drive, then mount it?
[12:46] <kb_> dooglus: imho, the ultimate ui was the beos one, but beos is, sadly, proprietary and dead
[12:46] <joel> what can i do then
[12:46] <joel> ?
[12:46] <damacus> peepsalot: yeah
[12:46] <Pelo> peepsalot,   sudo cp
[12:46] <kb_> and all the ui clones i've seen have entirely missed the good parts
[12:46] <damacus> dd if=/dev/partition of=/newdrive/file.dmp
[12:46] <nixnoob> raptor just make and then make install yes?
[12:46] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: did you spot anything in that pastbin post?
[12:47] <Smaug> whats a good program for annimation?
[12:47] <joel> can i reinstall default kernel?
[12:47] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I didn't even spot the pastebin URL sorry.  did you put my name in your message?
[12:47] <dooglus> Smaug: synfig :)
[12:47] <peepsalot> damacus, and I can mount that file just like a partition device?
[12:47] <Raptor45> nixnoob, read the documentation... you also have to copy a setup file somewhere if you want to use WEP and stuff
[12:47] <damacus> then on another computer you can mkdir /media/file; mount -o loop -t ext3 /path/to/file.dmp /media/file
[12:47] <Pelo> joel,  from synaptic
[12:47] <damacus> replacing ext3 with the correct partition type
[12:47] <peepsalot> damacus, ok, thx i will try that
[12:47] <damacus> yeah
[12:47] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471481
[12:47] <ceriand> does anyone have any experience with setting up bluetooth hid?
[12:47] <damacus> if you have problems, google mounting over loopback
[12:47] <nixnoob> Raptor45 thanks did u ever use the GUI frontend RutilT from the serialmokney site?
[12:47] <Smaug> dooglus: thanks
[12:47] <Raptor45> nixnoob, as I recall, it can only be set through that config file, not through command line or the GUI
[12:48] <joel> i install default kernel from synaptyc?
[12:48] <Raptor45> nixnoob, saw it, but never tried it
[12:48] <Pelo> joel,  you might want to remove your new kernel
[12:48] <weswh-> does anyone know if the version of ktorrent that comes with feisty is 2.1.4? When you hit "about ktorrent" in the app all they say is "2.1", that really bugs me.
[12:48] <Dave_is_sexy> everytime i start seamonkey it crashes instantly. firefox crashes every 5 mins or so. i'm not having much luck with this os.
[12:48] <weswh-> or does that mean I am literally running 2.1?
[12:48] <damacus> weswh-: yeah, I want to know too
[12:48] <BryanJK> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471493
[12:48] <damacus> I prefer ktorrent over azureus... but I'd rather not run a vulnerable client
[12:49] <peepsalot> damacus, do you have any recommendation if the other drive is across the network?  do I need to set up a samba share?  is there a simpler way?
[12:49] <damacus> I didn't see a USN for the ktorrent vuln
[12:49] <weswh-> yeah..well, for starters I just want to know what I'm running. heh
[12:49] <damacus> peepsalot: you can mount the file over the network, or create the file onto a network share.. but to create the file, you have to do it from the local machine
[12:49] <weswh-> peepsalot: are you trying to setup something permanent, or just copy a few files?
[12:49] <bob> SnakesAndStuff
[12:50] <Pici> weswh-: Looks like just 2.1-0ubuntu2, I did `aptitude show ktorrent`
[12:50] <joel> im confused, how do i remove it? what happens if i remove it?
[12:50] <peepsalot> i want to back up a drive before I format it
[12:50] <SnakesAndstuff> Has anyone here ever had any luck getting cinelerra to install on ubuntu feisty fawn?
[12:50] <weswh-> I just use an SFTP client to connect from my windows box or whatever..over ssh
[12:50] <Pelo> joel,  if your previous kernel is still ther you'll be able to boot it
[12:50] <weswh-> it's by far the easiest way to get things done.
[12:51] <dooglus> BryanJK: does "sudo apt-get -f install" fix it?
[12:51] <Raptor45> if I break my grub, how can it be restored? I know I've seen links to some utility somewhere
[12:51] <joel> isnt feisty kernel 2.6.20? i installed 2.6.20.ck1 and in grub theres not  a 2.6.20
[12:51] <sethk> Raptor45, there is a grub command line utility, called grub.  there is also grub-install
[12:51] <Pelo> joel,  as for the how , well if you compiled the same way anyother prog is compiled,  get the source,  run make then make uninstall ( or make remove I can never remember),  also consider backing up your data and maybe just reinstalling
[12:51] <kb_> peepsalot: i'd recommend using tar with the preserve options for that
[12:51] <nixnoob> Raptor45 one more question, did ra0 come up automatically or did u need to script a bunch on iwpriv stuff to make it associate?
[12:51] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: that's a strange error.  you shouldn't be using 'su' here at all - I'd try deleting the ripoff-* directory again, then leaving 'su' and doing it all as yourself.
[12:51] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I don't know if that would fix it or not though
[12:52] <Dave_is_sexy> ok
[12:52] <Raptor45> sethk, and if I am unable to boot? can I run that via the live cd?
[12:52] <BryanJK> dooglus: it fixes the app manager, yes
[12:52] <joel> can i reinstall ubuntu without loosing the downloaded programs?
[12:52] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I'd also try installing "libxml2-dev" - do you have it already?
[12:53] <Pelo> joel, no,  but if youknow hat they are you can easily find them again and resinstall them
[12:53] <Raptor45> nixnoob, it was able to connect via that config file... at the end I just had to make a script to do dhcp on startup
[12:53] <nixnoob> Raptor45 thanks
[12:53] <amigamia> does ubuntu server automatically detect needed updates and retrieve them and install them as needed??????
[12:53] <BryanJK> dooglus: what irc client are you using?
[12:53] <dooglus> BryanJK: irssi
[12:53] <joel> can i rename my kernel?
[12:53] <weswh-> hmm...so in a situation like this, do you think 2.1.4 will make it into the ubuntu repos sooner than later? or are we going to be on our own?
[12:53] <joel> so it doesnt say ck1 at the end?
[12:53] <BryanJK> dooglus: it looks nice :D
[12:53] <wimdows> thanks xtknight - no, no gdm* log file in /var/log
[12:54] <dooglus> BryanJK: I run it inside screen on a remote server, so I can stay online even when my laptop is switched off
[12:54] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: no exactly the same errors
[12:54] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you installed "libxml2-dev"?
[12:54] <h4wk0> !torrent
[12:54] <Pelo> joel, yo'Re getting into stuff that I've never done , I can't realy hellp anymore
[12:54] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:54] <joel> oh ok
[12:54] <joel> thx anyways
[12:54] <dooglus> joel: you can specify the name when you build it
[12:55] <BryanJK> dooglus: and what was the dock you had?
[12:55] <dooglus> joel: or if you're talking about how it shows up in the grub menu, you can use whatever name you like there
[12:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[12:55] <damacus> h4wk0: well, its more than alternatives.  i'm new to ubuntu.. but I'm concerned about how long security vulnerabilities remain unresolved....
[12:55] <joel> this was the guide i used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409288&highlight=Kolivas
[12:55] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: i have now, and the error is the same
[12:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: no official package available.  I built it from source, but unofficial packages are available
[12:55] <Pelo> dooglus,  he compiled a new kernel and he can'T get his nvidia drivers to work right now,  he wants to go back
[12:56] <AzulSolaris> Anyone know off the top of their heads how to fix the resolution on an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 video card?
[12:56] <xtknight> wimdows, hmm well im nmot sure then.
[12:56] <xtknight> wimdows, oh /var/log/gdm/?
[12:56] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: it's a strange error indeed.  I didn't see it
[12:56] <wimdows> xtknight - ah! yes, gdm dir...
[12:57] <Elda> Azule I think I saw something about that on the forums
[12:57] <murat> hi all
[12:57] <sethk> Raptor45, yes, you can get to both grub and grub-install on the cd
[12:57] <wimdows> not sure which one to look at: :0.log  :0.log.1  :0.log.2  :0.log.3  :0.log.4  :20.log  :20.log.1  :20.log.2
[12:57] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: but I've compiled quite a lot of stuff on this box before, so it's quite possible I already installed some -dev package that you're missing and need
[12:57] <wimdows> 0.log.4 I guess?
[12:57] <murat> i have just seen a post about pidgin (former gaim im)
[12:57] <damacus> weswh-: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads
[12:57] <sethk> wimdows, do ls -ltr in /var/log, look at the most recent one (which will be the last one listed for ls -ltr)
[12:57] <damacus> they have a feisty package up there
[12:57] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: it's just not worth it really is it? win2k is fine
[12:58] <damacus> guess we'll have to use that until the security fix is addressed in ubuntu proper.
[12:58] <murat> if somebody know howto install pidgin on feisty
[12:58] <murat> ???
[12:58] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: there are other CD rippers available in the ubuntu repositories anyway.  is there any reason you want this one in particular?
[12:58] <joel> hello?
[12:58] <heatxsink> hello
[12:58] <gluttony> hi, im trying to run beryl on feisty, and its in my system tray. but my ubuntu is still using metaciy to manage the desktop. i click on beryl, the scree flickers, and then it is still set to medacity
[12:58] <Ix0s> gluttony, beryl --replace is usually good fro diasgnosis
[12:58] <fjleon> sup guys, does anyone of a ubuntu repository with pidgin (gaim) 2.0 final?
[12:58] <Pelo> gluttony,  #beryl
[12:59] <dooglus> murat: feisty has gaim 2.0.0 beta 6.
[12:59] <joel> ok nvm thx anyways cyaz
[12:59] <dooglus> murat: pidgin won't be until gutsy I guess
[12:59] <murat> hi fjleon, i am looking for pidgin too
[12:59] <fjleon> darn
[12:59] <murat> thanks dooglus
[12:59] <Ix0s> gluttony, run beryl --replace in terminal and pasterbin outcome
[12:59] <peepsalot> kb_, damacus, weswh- what if the partition is NTFS
[12:59] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: yes i don't like any of the others. used them all before. i have soundjuicer for now, but ripoff is how a ripper should be. why they make it so hard to install i do not know, but there is little i understand about linux developers
[12:59] <fjleon> guess we either have to wait for an unofficial repository or compile it myself
[12:59] <kb_> peepsalot: which partition? i haven't been following
[12:59] <dooglus> murat: you can build it yourself if you want the final version, but I doubt it will be much different from gaim 2.0.0 beta 6
[12:59] <murat> i will compile pidgin myself then
[01:00] <damacus> peepsalot: if you use dd, you'll get a block-for-block copy
[01:00] <damacus> and it can be remounted on a different linux box
[01:00] <peepsalot> kb_, a partition i want to make a copy of before I format this drive
[01:00] <fjleon> dooglus, actually the GUI changed drastically on beta 7/final
[01:00] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: are you running feisty?
[01:00] <kb_> peepsalot: hm.... dunno about how it'd be about keeping metadata or advanced stuff like ntfs streams, if you have any, but as long as you can read it, i'd expect tar to do ok on the actual data
[01:00] <murat> thanks dooglus and fjleon
[01:01] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you can install the one I just built if you like: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/ripoff_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[01:01] <peepsalot> damacus, how can I dd from the partition on one computer to a filesystem on another?
[01:01] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: ooh thanks
[01:01] <dooglus> fjleon: that's crazy :)  why have 6 betas and then make drastic changes just before release???
[01:01] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: use "sudo dpkg -i <my.deb>"
[01:01] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: (without the < and > of course)
[01:02] <peepsalot> damacus, can I dd over scp somehow?
[01:02] <damacus> peepsalot: mount the remote filesystem
[01:02] <joel__> hello
[01:02] <BryanJK> dooglus: on the dock, it says "  2. Type `make' to compile the package."  after running configure in terminal... "root@bryan-desktop:/home/bryan/Desktop/avant-window-navigator-0.1.1# make
[01:02] <BryanJK> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[01:02] <damacus> then in the dd, set the of to use that mountpoint
[01:02] <wimdows> xtknight and sethk - here's the log from the first crash... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19178/
[01:02] <joel__> from the grub thing selected the other kernel
[01:02] <damacus> and yeah, you can use scp/ssh via SSHfs
[01:02] <joel__> how do i make it default?
[01:02] <peepsalot> damacus, so there is no getting around using samba
[01:03] <peepsalot> oh
[01:03] <damacus> i guess that depends on your situation, heh
[01:03] <peepsalot> i haven't tried sshfs before
[01:03] <joel__> how do i change the default kernel from grub?
[01:03] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: oh wow. awesome it's done! Thanks very much!
[01:03] <damacus> i mean, if you can use NFS... definitely go that route
[01:03] <xtknight> wimdows, hm seems like some type of forceful error to me.. sig11...i think ive gotten a Signal from X before but i cant remember at all the details
[01:03] <southafrikanse> Where are the logon themes located on our disk? I want to put an image there so it can go by default
[01:03] <damacus> or if you can put the image onto an external drive
[01:03] <fjleon> hey murat
[01:03] <xtknight> wimdows, i'd suggest maybe reinstalling xserver pkgs...but when did this start happening/what have you done to limit the problem/etc?
[01:03] <fjleon> http://cpanel.prohosts.org/filemanager/index.php?ftpserver=ftp.byetcluster.com&ftpserverport=2121&username=ph_575081&password_encrypted=72656E6567616465&language=en&skin=blue&ftpmode=automatic&passivemode=yes&sslconnect=no&viewmode=list&sort=&sortorder=&directory=%2F&entry=pidgin_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb&state=downloadfile
[01:03] <fjleon> check that out
[01:03] <h4wk0> Whats the ntfs write package again :s
[01:04] <h4wk0> ntfs-config?
[01:04] <joel__> whats pidgin?
[01:04] <ZombieCross> ntfs-3g
[01:04] <ZombieCross> Pidgin is the new Gaim.
[01:04] <fjleon> gaim
[01:04] <AaronMT> !gaim > joel__
[01:04] <dooglus> BryanJK: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/avant-window_svn173-1_i386.deb ?
[01:04] <damacus> libpurpleolol
[01:04] <joel__> ooohhh
[01:04] <wimdows> xtknight, just started happening today....
[01:04] <raschko> ne 1 here have tips on how to shrink the launcher icons in a panel??
[01:04] <dooglus> BryanJK: I built it from subversion, not the 0.1.1 version
[01:05] <Raptor45> so, has anyone gotten gfxboot to work in feisty? is it definitely broken?
[01:05] <damacus> anyone know of a good image viewer, similar to eye of gnome.. that supports animated gifs?
[01:05] <xtknight> wimdows, out of the blue..?
[01:05] <wimdows> xtknight - I used to have beryl / XGL working on here...
[01:05] <joel__> how can i edit grub?
[01:05] <xtknight> wimdows, since an apt update perhaps?
[01:05] <joel__> i want to change the default kernel
[01:05] <damacus> (most important features:  animated gifs, fullscreen scaled view, and navigating between images in a folder without loading them all into the app first)
[01:05] <wimdows> but couldn't deal without the direct 3d rendering so reinstalled ati packages and had it back...
[01:05] <wimdows> was working fine for quite a number of weeks
[01:06] <BryanJK> dooglus: Thanks! ...is that it?
[01:06] <baa_> can anyone with usenet recommend a good bin post proggy.
[01:06] <dooglus> BryanJK: alternatively, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2093300 - in fact you'll need to see that anyway, 'cos there's some gconf command you have to run before it'll work
[01:06] <baa_> for windows even.
[01:06] <BryanJK> dooglus: sounds good
[01:06] <dooglus> BryanJK: that's a binary package of the current subversion version compiled
[01:06] <wimdows> xtknight - can I simply reinstall xserver packages/
[01:06] <wimdows> ?
[01:06] <joel__> how can i edit grub?
[01:07] <joel__> how can i edit grub default kernel?
[01:07] <ice9> !remote
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <xtknight> wimdows, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" first
[01:07] <GrueTamer> joel__: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:07] <joel__> thx
[01:07] <peepsalot> is there a simple command to see free space on a partition?
[01:07] <murat> joel, you want to boot different kernel then the default one
[01:07] <ice9> using realVNC on windows to remote into gnome box
[01:07] <kb_> woah, why does network-agent take so long to apply changes?
[01:08] <dooglus> joel__: grub's config file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:08] <ice9> but I can't get sound to work does anyone know how
[01:08] <william> just one quick question...i installed GAIM Beta 6 with Automatix2...i see now version 6 is out but i still didnt get the update...does automatix take care of updates for me?
[01:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Doesn't apt-get resolve dependences?
[01:08] <kb_> CPrgmSwR2: it does
[01:08] <ice9> does anyone know how to enable sound with realvnc
[01:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Then I read a stupid article
[01:09] <william> Anyone?Does Automatix2 take care of the updates for me?
[01:09] <Filthpig> !themes
[01:09] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:09] <dooglus> william: I don't think so.
[01:09] <wimdows> xtknight - hmmm - it's now changed my driver from fgrlx to ati in xorg.conf
[01:09] <Filthpig> !changethemes | southafrikanse
[01:09] <ubotu> southafrikanse: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[01:09] <wimdows> so I'll change that back to fgrlx
[01:10] <xtknight> wimdows, nah dont for now
[01:10] <kb_> yay, networking works
[01:10] <xtknight> wimdows, just see if gdm starts without an issue?  if so then continue and reinstall Prop ati drivers
[01:10] <wimdows> hmm ok
[01:10] <matt____1> can someone please explain to me "window managers". like the compiz, aiglx, xgl. i want to get this to work. http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/ look at the download section, 3rd sentance
[01:10] <connor> my camera is not working properly; when I connect it to the laptop I get the "camera detected" message, but then when I click "import photos", it gives me "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device."
[01:11] <wimdows> xtknight - so just Ctrl-Alt backspace, right
[01:11] <BryanJK> blah, random gnome crash >_>
[01:11] <xtknight> wimdows, yea to restart X servef
[01:11] <wimdows> aye
[01:11] <kira_> hi there.... somebody knows a nice tool so i can make a video from my beryl desktop?
[01:11] <dooglus> matt____1: which is the 3rd sentence?
[01:12] <asherZ> in compiz how do u enable bottom cube image?
[01:12] <dooglus> matt____1: oh, the download section, ok
[01:12] <matt____1> dooglus: where it mentions Awn needs a composited environment to run
[01:12] <Braddf0rd> Hey, I'm having a problem with Compiz not enabling... It was enabled, my gf went into Vista, I came back and it was off, and when I went to enable it, it couldn't... what should I do to fix this?
[01:12] <Braddf0rd> I rebooted and tried again, and nothing... did the same thing
[01:13] <Braddf0rd> Should I reinstall it or something?
[01:13] <plowsoke> hey, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu.  my problem seems to have been mentioned on the official forums a few times, but i don't believe i've been able to find any official fix.  the installer runs normally, until the first GUI loads, then the screen is orange with some random artifacts and it just stops reacting, not frozen, there's just nothing to do.  from what i've read this is caused by some kind of compatibility issue with my 
[01:13] <BryanJK> dooglus: Thanks, your deb package worked by itself :D
[01:14] <matt____1> dooglus: oops, wrong button, i am going to have to restart xserver, give me a second
[01:14] <dooglus> matt____1: ok, I see.  are you running beryl or compiz?  ie. wobbly windows and all that.
[01:14] <matt____1> dooglus:
[01:14] <Braddf0rd> Hey, I'm having a problem with Compiz not enabling... It was enabled, my gf went into Vista, I came back and it was off, and when I went to enable it, it couldn't... what should I do to fix this?
[01:14] <matt____1> dooglus: well, im not. i don't understand compiz, is it the default ubuntu manager thing?
[01:14] <dooglus> BryanJK: right.  I think 0.1.1 needed a separate gconf command, but maybe the svn version doesn't...  I tried 0.1.1 first, hence my confusion
[01:14] <CPrgmSwR2> re-install is a quick fix Barddf0rd
[01:14] <farseer_> hello, how can i reach a linux partition from a windows computer. over the network?
[01:15] <lufis> What's java_vm and why's it taking up 91% of my CPU?
[01:15] <BryanJK> dooglus: well gnome crashed for some reason, and I come back and have Avant in my accessories menu
[01:15] <BryanJK> works great
[01:15] <CPrgmSwR2> but I would advise tring to figure out what went wrong
[01:15] <plowsoke> lufis: java virtual machine i'm guessing
[01:15] <dooglus> BryanJK: what's nice with it is that you can drag launchers onto the panel as well - then launchers and open windows use the same icon
[01:15] <CPrgmSwR2> then you don't have to re-install everytime it happens
[01:15] <Elda> Lufis, sounds to me like that Java Virtual Machine
[01:15] <jrib> lufis: java virtual machine and because it is java
[01:15] <farseer_> .. is that what samba is used for?
[01:15] <lufis> sheesh, how do i disable it?
[01:15] <ice9> java is a memory hog
[01:15] <BryanJK> is it also for windows?
[01:15] <matt____1> dooglus: i just enabled compiz, but i have no window borders or anything
[01:15] <matt____1> dooglus: why?
[01:15] <BryanJK> like its showing windows I have open*
[01:15] <julio> Can somebody help me with getting Hotmail to work in Evolution?
[01:15] <ice9> depends to you have anything up that is java
[01:15] <ice9> applets ,
[01:15] <ice9> maybe
[01:16] <plowsoke> hey so anyone know a fix for that nvidia install issue?
[01:16] <dooglus> BryanJK: you can set it to auto hide too - it will hide when your mouse leaves it, unless it leaves by creeping along the bottom edge of the screen - so you can easily hide it or leave it on screen as you like
[01:16] <lufis> ice9: I don't use any java apps, haven't run a java applet in firefox in a week or more
[01:16] <dooglus> matt____1: I don't know.  in feisty is that?
[01:16] <eck> lufis: look at the ppid
[01:16] <kb_> lufis: well, it's presumably running something
[01:16] <matt____1> dooglus:
[01:16] <lufis> :-/
[01:16] <matt____1> dooglus: yes
[01:16] <tolstoy> Folks, what user do cron jobs in cron.hourly run as?  I see no cron user in /etc/passwd.
[01:16] <ice9> hmm
[01:16] <eck> lufis: i.e. the parent, it will tell you what spawned it
[01:16] <jvolkman> lufis, azureus?
[01:16] <Braddf0rd> DOES anyone know if I can reinstall compiz to make it work again????
[01:16] <lufis> jvolkman: no java apps
[01:16] <dooglus> matt____1: there's a separate channel for compiz:
[01:16] <dooglus> !compiz
[01:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:16] <matt____1> dooglus: what is it?
[01:17] <dooglus> #ubuntu-effects
[01:17] <farseer_> Braddf0rd, try it then
[01:17] <tolstoy> !cron
[01:17] <eck> tolstoy: i believe root, just run a cron job that echos whoami to a file to find out
[01:17] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[01:17] <bsod> hi :)
[01:17] <dooglus> they helped me get it working with this card which doesn't support it properly without using the Xgl server (or something - I don't understand it either :) )
[01:17] <jvolkman> lufis: ps -ef and find out what its parent is
[01:18] <jvolkman> lufis: look at "PPID" for java_vm and then find that same number in the "PID" column
[01:18] <Ix0s> !beryl
[01:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:18] <BryanJK> dooglus: its kinda like the mac dock... really nice
[01:18] <wimdows> xtknight - back, the ati driver string didn't work....so back to fglrx now, which crashed again after first time login to the session, now seems fine
[01:18] <farseer_> hellooooo :P must i use samba to acces partitions mounted as ntfs, from another computer running windows?
[01:18] <lufis> jvolkman: sam      15258     1 91 Apr30 ?        3-12:21:29 java_vm
[01:18] <dooglus> BryanJK: yes, like the mac dock but without the fancy zooming effects
[01:19] <plowsoke> lol... any help at all? ;x
[01:19] <lufis> jvolkman: pstree shows it's its own independent process, no parent
[01:19] <Braddf0rd> farseer_, I don't have Navidia OR ATI, I'm using the Intel 940
[01:19] <BryanJK> dooglus: i love the zoomy effects too :D
[01:19] <eck> lufis: yes, it daemonized itself
[01:19] <lufis> eck: how do i de-daemonize it? :(
[01:19] <farseer_> Braddf0rd, bad for u :/ i have no idea then
[01:19] <dooglus> BryanJK: if you save your GNOME session, it should start up automatically each time you log in
[01:19] <eck> lufis: you can't -- you need to try to figure out what app you are running that would invoke java
[01:19] <xtknight> wimdows, hmm , so it's sporadic huh?
[01:19] <nowhere> is it possible to execute a cronjob in gnu screen?
[01:20] <jpjacobs> nowhere, why would you?
[01:20] <BryanJK> dooglus, cant you just add it to /.config/autostart?
[01:20] <jvolkman> lufis: you could kill it and see if anything disappears =)
[01:20] <wimdows> xtknight - looks like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19179/
[01:20] <eck> nowhere: sure, just create a screenrc that runs the commands and run the cron job that executes screen with that profile
[01:20] <Braddf0rd> ok, does anyone know how I might get compiz running if it decides to stop working???
[01:20] <lufis> eck: I'm not running anything using java. Not a thing. Unless you count firefox which might be invoking it, but that's unlikely anyway because i don't have any java applets running
[01:20] <dooglus> BryanJK: I guess.  although I had problems trying to get it to run when I added it to ~/.xprofile.  I don't know about ~/.config/autostart.  try it, I guess :)
[01:20] <eck> lufis: i would just kill it then
[01:20] <lufis> eck: it just comes back up
[01:21] <dooglus> BryanJK: it was taking up the whole bottom inch of the screen with a black stripe.
[01:21] <eck> that's strange
[01:21] <BryanJK> dooglus: if i try it, my computer will no boot up the next time prolly :P
[01:21] <BryanJK> not*
[01:21] <eck> are you sure it isn't blocking sigterm?
[01:21] <lufis> eck: 15258 sam       15   0  240m 8584 2752 S 72.9  2.2   5063:58 java_vm
[01:21] <dooglus> BryanJK: you'll be able to control-alt-f1 and undo the damange from there
[01:21] <Braddf0rd> HELL, does anyone know the room for compiz???
[01:21] <lufis> eck: 79.9 = cpu usage
[01:21] <moDumass> hey all, so um, after getting monitor 2 working with the X server settings (nvidia) and it looks pretty and all, how do i get anything onto it
[01:21] <eck> lufis: but when you kill it, it actually terminates and the pid changes
[01:22] <moDumass> braddford, go to #beryl
[01:22] <eck> ?
[01:22] <dooglus> BryanJK: basically, nothing you do as your user can stop the machine booting.  you need 'sudo' (or an exploit) to really break things.
[01:22] <lufis> eck: killall java_vm returns no errors, but it's spawned immediately afterwards
[01:22] <Braddf0rd> Thank you moDumass
[01:22] <dooglus> BryanJK: I suppose filling the disk right up is something you can do as a user to cause trouble
[01:22] <wimdows> that pastebin is the last log msg, the one before it moans about screen not being DRI capable:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19180/
[01:22] <moDumass> no prob
[01:22] <wimdows> xtknight - I tried before adding an AIGLX section in to the xorg but removed it as it didn't do anything
[01:23] <eck> lufis: weird -- if it respawns that means another application is forking and recreating a java daemon, but i'm not sure how you would determine what application that was
[01:23] <BryanJK> dooglus: ...can you move the Avant dock?
[01:23] <dooglus> BryanJK: no
[01:23] <martalli> Does the core 2 duo not support 64 bit ubuntu?
[01:23] <dooglus> BryanJK: I think that's on the author's TODO list
[01:23] <eck> martalli: it does
[01:23] <lufis> eck: well, like i said, pstree is showing it as its own parent. I don't know what would be spawning it, considering I don't run any java applications at all, nor do I have any java applets open
[01:24] <wimdows> not sure if some of it is still a left over from the XGL / Beryl stuff
[01:24] <BryanJK> dooglus: ya, it does kinda look bad stretching the 16x16 icons to like 54x54 :P
[01:24] <eck> lufis: right, if the ppid is 1 that means it daemonized itself, so there is no way of determining what application originally spawned it
[01:24] <xtknight> wimdows, ah hold on
[01:24] <martalli> I have a dell m1210 and when I boot the 64 bit disk, it says myu processor does not upport it - "use a 32 bit distro"
[01:24] <lufis> eck: But there's got to be a way to undaemonize it, right?
[01:25] <xtknight> wimdows, well im really not sure what's going on
[01:25] <wimdows> :-(
[01:25] <eck> lufis: no, being a daemon just means your parent is init and you don't have any file descriptors open on any ttys/consoles
[01:25] <xtknight> kinda hard to debug from afar
[01:25] <lufis> eck: oh
[01:25] <wimdows> I know
[01:25] <eck> lufis: a daemon cannot respawn itself anyway, another process needs to fork and create the daemon
[01:25] <xtknight> wimdows,  so getting rid of all the xgl/compiz/beryl/composite/all-that-stuff didnt help?
[01:25] <Jay2> how can i boot in ubuntu and display the initial boot up messages for debugging purposes?
[01:25] <lufis> eck: I'm getting rid of java then. This is crazy :(
[01:26] <dooglus> BryanJK: you can right-click a bad-looking icon, click 'preferences' and select a better icon if you like
[01:26] <timewriter> hi
[01:26] <lufis> eck: it's STILL pegging my cpu
[01:26] <wimdows> xtknight - I don't think it's all uninstalled
[01:26] <plowsoke> well, here's a thread with my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=a07ef38c3b3336ab48cc12dfd23053dd&t=433166&highlight=install+orange+screen
[01:26] <[Meta] > Woot!
[01:26] <eck> lufis: to find out what process was spawning you'd need to know the pppid, but of course that doesn't exist ;-)
[01:26] <crimsun> martalli: using a 7.04 desktop cd?
[01:26] <xtknight> wimdows, well i'd suggest working from the first warnings in the log file...
[01:26] <asherZ> someone please help. i have compiz enabled w/ GL Desktop and cant enable bottom cube image theres no option i can enable top cube img :S
[01:26] <xtknight> wimdows, the failed to setup writecomining range errors...
[01:26] <lufis> eck: i think it's 1, right?  ps -ef | grep java gives: sam      15258     1 91 Apr30 ?        3-12:26:25 java_vm
[01:27] <wimdows> xtknight - I just manually edited xorg.conf and reinstalled the ati drivers
[01:27] <eck> lufis: you might also see what files it has open with lsof, that might give a clue of what it is doing
[01:27] <martalli> crimsun:  yes -
[01:27] <dooglus> plowsoke: the usual advice in that situation is "try the alternate install cd"
[01:27] <xtknight> wimdows,  not that i know what that means but it may suggest something...the rule to go by is always to look at the first errors as they could cause subsequent ones.  but unfortunately there are exceptions
[01:27] <timewriter> i cant compile xchat from source
[01:27] <eck> lufis: yes, the parent is 1 (but you haven't killed it yet, since it's been running since april 30)
[01:27] <dooglus> timewriter: are you sure you want to?
[01:27] <crimsun> martalli: please file a bug against the linux-source-2.6.20 source package using bugs.launchpad.net
[01:27] <plowsoke> dooglus: which rules out the possibility of using Ubuntu Live eh?
[01:27] <timewriter> dooglus: yes
[01:27] <lufis> eck: huh. killall java_vm doesn't return any errors
[01:28] <eck> lufis: it can block sigterm, try kill -9
[01:28] <lufis> ok
[01:28] <dooglus> timewriter: what's the problem, specifically?
[01:28] <martalli> crimsun:  OK
[01:28] <eck> the default behavior of sigterm is to send sigterm
[01:28] <timewriter> let me show u
[01:28] <peepsalot> any software RAID tutorials for Ubuntu?
[01:28] <william> sry i already posted this question but need confirmation...does automatix take care of updates for me?
[01:28] <eck> err, the default behavior of kill
[01:28] <LjL> !automatix
[01:28] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:28] <peepsalot> !raid
[01:28] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:28] <lufis> eck: I think that did the trick :)
[01:28] <dooglus> !automatix
[01:29] <wimdows> xtknight, well - I'm guessing it's even before the write-combining errors... in particular: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found
[01:29] <regulus> hello
[01:29] <jmashaw> !WorksForMe
[01:29] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:29] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:29] <regulus> any spanish here??
[01:29] <timewriter> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:29] <dooglus> !es
[01:29] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:29] <timewriter> this is the error
[01:29] <regulus> I need help abou the screen resolution
[01:29] <lufis> eck: oh, thank god. That's crazy. It was pegging my cpu nonstop
[01:29] <crimsun> timewriter: reinstall build-essential
[01:29] <xtknight> timewriter, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:29] <dooglus> timewriter: install build-essential
[01:29] <timewriter> they arent installed
[01:29] <timewriter> ok i was thinking about that
[01:29] <timewriter> thanks
[01:29] <wimdows> xtknight - I think that's to do with XGL
[01:29] <william> wow seriously?!but on the ubuntu forums everybody seem to praise automatix...even michael dell uses it! :)
[01:29] <dooglus> timewriter: also, install the dependencies for xchat:  "sudo apt-get build-dep xchat"
[01:30] <regulus> arf!
[01:30] <timewriter> ok
[01:30] <xtknight> lol michael dell
[01:30] <dooglus> timewriter: (or "xchat-gnome", depending on which one you're building)
[01:30] <timewriter> i use gnome
[01:30] <eck> lufis: i think that kill will always exit normally, because afaik it's not possible to tell if the process that was killed ever received the signal
[01:30] <regulus> I tried with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it does nto work!
[01:30] <lufis> eck: ah, that explains it then
[01:30] <dooglus> timewriter: sure, but there are 2 versions of xchat
[01:30] <xtknight> wimdows, perhaps :] 
[01:30] <joel__> fixed my  problem just made the old kernel default and reinstalled nvidia driver
[01:30] <xtknight> :\
[01:30] <dooglus> timewriter: both are gnome programs I think
[01:31] <dooglus> timewriter: I mean GTK programs
[01:31] <timewriter> then which one should i go for
[01:31] <xtknight> wimdows, my mind is rather blank at the moment.  how did you attempt to use xgl/aiglx again?
[01:31] <lufis> eck: I'll know what to do next time things get sluggish. Thanks :)
[01:31] <eck> no problem :-)
[01:31] <timewriter> oioi
[01:31] <timewriter> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[01:32] <dooglus> timewriter: I'd recommend irssi personally, but if you insist on an xchat, "xchat" was better than "xchat-gnome" last time I looked
[01:32] <dooglus> !info xchat
[01:32] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[01:32] <dooglus> !info xchat-gnome
[01:32] <timewriter> im on irsii
[01:32] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.16-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 784 kB
[01:32] <wimdows> xtknight - good question - followed some tutorial...
[01:32] <timewriter> but my eyes are really sick
[01:32] <timewriter> i cant use it
[01:32] <wimdows> xtknight - where can I find gdm.conf?
[01:32] <xtknight> wimdows, /etc ?
[01:32] <kitche> timewriter: have to install glibbut why not just install the package?
[01:32] <dooglus> timewriter: make the font bigger.
[01:32] <william> ok well anyway is it normal that gaim 2.0 is still not in synaptic?synaptic takes care of the updates right?!
[01:32] <timewriter> its big enough
[01:32] <dooglus> timewriter: so what's the problem?
[01:32] <timewriter> the thing is that on irsii lines are moving too fast
[01:33] <timewriter> i just cant watch all
[01:33] <grimeboy> I'm really confused. My battery is at 90% and charging and I haven't been using it.
[01:33] <c00i90wn> Hi, I'm having the following problem, I installed network-manager-pptp but when I click on the NetworkManager icon I can't see VPNS entry
[01:33] <dooglus> timewriter: so join #debian instead.  they love ubuntu questions there ;)
[01:33] <wimdows> xtknight - ah yes - well, in /etc/gdm/ ;-)
[01:33] <timewriter> lol
[01:33] <c00i90wn> btw, on feisty
[01:33] <Agrajag> william: what do you mean? gaim 2.0 comes with ubuntu already
[01:33] <Slick_> hey guys, how do I remove a shortcut to a mounted partition which is on my desktop?
[01:33] <william> no its not gaim2.0
[01:33] <grimeboy> pidgin
[01:33] <Agrajag> william: 2.0b7 then, whatever.
[01:33] <dooglus> wimdows: gaim 2 was released after feisty was released.
[01:33] <plowsoke> can anyone link me to the latest alternate installer ISO torrent for AMD64?  tried about 15 mirrors from the main site and they're all broken lol
[01:33] <Agrajag> william: are you talking about pidgin?
[01:33] <stardust> #new2irc
[01:34] <timewriter> how do i install glib /
[01:34] <william> yea pidgin
[01:34] <william> just got renamed sry
[01:34] <Agrajag> william: that's not the same, and it won't ever be in fiesty
[01:34] <william> y?
[01:34] <dooglus> wimdows: ubuntu won't be adding new versions of things to old releases - only for security fixes mostly
[01:34] <Agrajag> william: you don't change package versions in a stable release
[01:34] <erpo> The package gpsd-clients in Feisty Fawn has a bug that is corrected in a newer version of the software. The maintainer is listed as Ubuntu MOTU Developers. How do I contact "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" and get them to put out an update?
[01:34] <jrib> timewriter: you probably already have glib
[01:34] <grimeboy> Cause
[01:34] <timewriter> uhm
[01:34] <william> but then synaptic never updates your packages?
[01:35] <timewriter> u mean libglib2.0-0 ?
[01:35] <Slick_> hey guys, how do I remove a shortcut to a mounted partition which is on my desktop?
[01:35] <wimdows> dooglus - how nice of you to inform me ;-) I think your replies were directed at william?
[01:35] <Agrajag> william: yes it does, if there is a security update you will get an update.
[01:35] <c00i90wn> mmm no one? :S
[01:35] <jrib> timewriter: exactly
[01:35] <timewriter> its there
[01:35] <Agrajag> william: and when Gutsy comes out you can use the update manager to update to it.
[01:35] <timewriter> then why i get the error
[01:35] <dooglus> wimdows: probably.  it's late :)
[01:35] <jrib> timewriter: what error?  what are you doing?
[01:35] <timewriter> uhm
[01:35] <timewriter> i need dev packages
[01:35] <c00i90wn> Slick_: wait, I can't remember, looking for it
[01:35] <drew> william: have you tried the pidgin yet?
[01:35] <wimdows> dooglus - not probably...."most certainly" ;-)
[01:36] <dooglus> william: you'll get updates for security fixes, and serious bug fixes, but not for regular version increments
[01:36] <william> no not yet but ive seen ppl try it on the forum
[01:36] <william> and i have beta 6 through automatix
[01:36] <drew> does it look different?
[01:36] <zipped20x> i have a question
[01:36] <peepsalot> Can anyone help me use the alternate install cd from a USB CD drive?
[01:36] <[Meta] > Uh oh
[01:36] <[Meta] > Uh oh
[01:37] <[Meta] > Guys. I can't do anything now.
[01:37] <timewriter> oioi
[01:37] <[Meta] > :S
[01:37] <jmashaw> !ask
[01:37] <peepsalot> it gets to a point where it wants cd drivers, but it worked up to that point?!
[01:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:37] <zipped20x> is there any way to reformat part of my linux partition without harming the current linux installation
[01:37] <timewriter> jrib: im trying to compile xchat from source
[01:37] <[Meta] > I got into the oem user then I created a new user
[01:37] <william> drew: although it would make more sense if it did since its a 2.0 no not really
[01:37] <timewriter> and i get a lot of errors
[01:37] <[Meta] > And deleted the oem one.
[01:37] <[Meta] > Bad move. x_X
[01:37] <[Meta] > How do I log in to the root user?
[01:37] <peepsalot> is there a particular module i need to load?
[01:38] <LjL> [Meta] : reboot into recovery mode and add your user to the "admin" group (adduser username admin)
[01:38] <dooglus> [Meta] : it's recommended not to, and to use 'sudo' instead, but 'sudo -i' will give you a root prompt
[01:38] <AaronMT> !sudo > [Meta] 
[01:38] <c00i90wn> Slick_: gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible false
[01:38] <jmashaw> zipped20x: you can use gparted to resize and then reformat a part of it, but be careful, as it is not always 100% succesful
[01:38] <timewriter> whats is srcinst ?
[01:38] <AaronMT> !gparted > zipped20x
[01:38] <Flannel> Meglo: er... You shouldn't have deleted the OEM one.  There's a script to finish up your install (oem-config-prepare, or something like that).
[01:38] <BryanJK> dooglus: Thanks, it looks great
[01:38] <jmashaw> !gparted
[01:38] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:38] <[Meta] > Ugh.
[01:38] <[Meta] > Okay LjL
[01:38] <william> ok so although automatix is highly unrecommended apparently, can someone tell me if they update their packages?
[01:38] <LjL> william, ask in #automatix
[01:38] <[Meta] > But I'm pretty sure I did that before
[01:38] <zipped20x> what happens if it isn't successful?
[01:39] <Chetwin> Hi all
[01:39] <Chetwin> !pidgin
[01:39] <drew> william: ill install anyway, maybe some cool new features, curious which direction its heading.
[01:39] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
[01:39] <AaronMT> !automatix
[01:39] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:39] <zipped20x> and do i do it through the terminal?
[01:39] <Flannel> Meglo: actually.  Don't need to do that.  Run that script (from recovery mode), type "oem" and hit tab, and it'll complete to it.  Then reboot again, and you'll get prompted to create a real user
[01:39] <jmashaw> well, it can destroy the data on your drive.
[01:39] <jmashaw> no, it is graphical
[01:39] <zipped20x> how do i access it?
[01:39] <jpiccolo> can low amount of ram on a server affect ftp transfer speed?
[01:39] <Chetwin> Hey all, will build-essential install EVERYTHING I need to compile a prog from source???
[01:40] <[Meta] > Flannel: Were you talking to me?
[01:40] <peepsalot> um, please has anyone successfully run an Ubuntu install from a USB CD drive?
[01:40] <Baje> there a way to get my xchat to open up when i click irc links on websites?
[01:40] <Flannel> [Meta] : sorry, yeah.
[01:40] <Meglo> :P
[01:40] <[Meta] > :S
[01:40] <LjL> Chetwin: of course not, each program will depend on the libraries that the programmer has chosen to use
[01:40] <[Meta] > I dunno how.
[01:40] <[Meta] > ;_;
[01:40] <Flannel> [Meta] : I said something else to you before too.  Well, to him.
[01:40] <c00i90wn> Hi, I'm having the following problem, I installed network-manager-pptp but when I click on the NetworkManager icon I can't see VPNS entry on feisty
[01:40] <c00i90wn> Slick_: worked?
[01:40] <jmashaw> !gparted
[01:40] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:40] <Flannel> [Meta] : Reboot, recovery mode.  then run the "oem" thing (oem[tab]  ought to complete to it) then reboot, and it'll ask you about making your real user.
[01:40] <BryanJK> dooglus: if you wanna see it, heres a link http://tinyurl.com/32fjot
[01:40] <[Meta] > Type oem and then press tab?
[01:41] <Chetwin> LjL: I downloaded the source for a program because a binary wasn't avail.  How can I get started
[01:41] <lbawinowns> I have a NTFS partition that works perfectly, but if I delte files from it, does it go to a recycle bin?
[01:41] <Jump86> has anyone heard of pclinuxos? it seems to be getting some attention lately
[01:41] <Flannel> [Meta] : yeah.  From the recovery console.  It should complete it.  To something like "oem-config-prepare"
[01:41] <wimdows> xtknight - can I reinstall xserver-xorg?
[01:41] <[Meta] > Okay. -.-
[01:41] <zipped20x> and if it's not 100% successful what will happen to the partition?
[01:41] <LjL> Chetwin: by installing build-essential, for sure. then read the INSTALL file. it'll probably tell you to run ./configure, run it. if it complains about missing development dependencies, install them, run it again. when it stops complaining, you can run "make".
[01:41] <lbawinowns> since I don't think my space has increased even tough I've deleted a couple of files
[01:41] <LjL> !compile > Chetwin    (Chetwin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:42] <xtknight> wimdows, sudo apt-get --reinstall install <pkgname>    (yes install is in there twice0
[01:42] <Gerro> lbawinowns: you would have to "move" stuff to the recycling bin not delete it
[01:42] <Flannel> [Meta] : ifthere's more than one `oem` thing, you'll need to hit tab twice, and you'll gt a list of them.
[01:42] <dooglus> BryanJK: looks good
[01:42] <jmashaw> I have never had it happen to me, but if it dies it could destroy the partition
[01:42] <Slick_> c00i90wn: I wasnt trying to hide one of them, I was trying to rename one of them so that it represents the name in the mounted volume
[01:42] <Chetwin> Thanks LjL!
[01:42] <dooglus> BryanJK: quite a low resolution though - is it a small screen?
[01:42] <wimdows> ok cheers xtknight
[01:42] <[Meta] > Okay, Flannel.
[01:42] <[Meta] > Be back soon
[01:43] <BryanJK> dooglus: its 1600x1200, the image was resized because it was a large file size
[01:43] <dooglus> BryanJK: I se
[01:43] <dooglus> e
[01:43] <lbawinowns> Gerro: what happen if I just press delete button?
[01:43] <Wriest_> how do I install wallpapers and different tar files?
[01:43] <BryanJK> dooglus: imageshack tends to do that if its over 1.5mb
[01:43] <timewriter> im stucked
[01:43] <piercy> can anyone help me get windows onto my grub menu and for ti to boot please :)
[01:43] <AaronMT> Wriest_ just right click your image and set as wallpaper
[01:43] <gesus> hey is there any way to play half-life in ubuntu without installing wine?
[01:43] <zipped20x> it didn't work
[01:43] <drew> gesus: cedega?
[01:44] <Flannel> piercy: XP? or Vista?
[01:44] <piercy> xp
[01:44] <dooglus> piercy: see the end of http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/menu.lst
[01:44] <dooglus> piercy: that's for XP home
[01:44] <c00i90wn> Slick_: sorry, read hide :S
[01:44] <dooglus> piercy: sorry, prof.
[01:44] <roustem> I cannot install my "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" wifi card in Feisty. I followed these directions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/Hardware#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset
[01:44] <Flannel> booting shouldnt matter between prof and home.
[01:44] <drew> gesus: there is no direct linux version of Steam software, or half life. Have to use Cedega or wine.
[01:45] <UnluckyMike> roustem: try bcm43xx-fwcutter
[01:45] <piercy> mines prof anyway
[01:45] <gesus> drew, thank you
[01:45] <piercy> ill tyr it and come back in a sec... so i add this to menu.lst then do sudo update-grub then reboot?
[01:45] <zipped20x> i'm trying to put a windows partition on my second hard drive but it wont let me because the hard drive that it wants to put it on has the linux on it
[01:45] <dooglus> piercy: I don't think you need to update-grub - just edit the file
[01:45] <piercy> ok
[01:45] <piercy> brb
[01:46] <jnc> I don't see info on whether or not Dell is shipping notebooks with Ubuntu pre-installed today, or not... any pointers?
[01:46] <dooglus> piercy: you'll need sudo to edit it though
[01:46] <BryanJK> dooglus: theres a shortcut to "CounterStrike Source" I want on the dock, but whenever I drag it... (even from the desktop) it discards it
[01:46] <timewriter> i got mad
[01:46] <dooglus> BryanJK: drag it to the very left edge - not onto an existing icon
[01:46] <timewriter> stoopid xchat
[01:46] <zipped20x> would i be able to instead of doing !gparted physically switch the 1st hard drive and the second hard drive?
[01:46] <zipped20x> the linux hard drive is on the master part of the ide and my second is on the slave part
[01:46] <jmashaw> zipped20x: I supose that would be easy enough
[01:47] <BryanJK> dooglus: I do, but it just doesn't do anything... I drag another icon (Steam) to the exact same place, and it works
[01:47] <BryanJK> :|
[01:47] <zipped20x> and it wont harm a thing?
[01:47] <jmashaw> I am not sure, because I am not exactly sure what you mean.
[01:47] <UnluckyMike> zipped20x: just change your bios to boot whichever hard drive first
[01:47] <dooglus> BryanJK: I've not seen that problem here.  but I've not tried with many icons
[01:48] <dooglus> BryanJK: what happens if you "ls -l" on the icon's file?
[01:48] <zipped20x> turn the master drive into the slave drive through the BIOS?
[01:48] <dooglus> BryanJK: ie. ls -l ~/Desktop/halflife.desktop or whatever
[01:48] <BryanJK> dooglus: it works fine, except for that one icon
[01:48] <Jonah> guys if my machine has pc3200 ram and it's got 1gig, does that mean it has two 512mb dimms or do these dimms not need to be in twos so could it just have 1 dimm of 1gb?? just ordering more memory so don't know whether to order 3x1gb dimms or 4x1gb dimms and take old out...
[01:48] <BryanJK> okay hold on
[01:48] <zipped20x> i'll try it
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> i can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it?
[01:49] <[Meta] > This is even worse!
[01:49] <piercy> ok now it says invalid or unsupported exectuable
[01:49] <KFDM> Does anyone in here have experience with getting Pydev working with Eclipse under Ubuntu or do they know of where I might be able to get help ?
[01:49] <sebas_> hidan, I want to install feisty but I am unable to format the hard drive
[01:49] <AaronMT> !chmod > thelostpatrol
[01:49] <[Meta] > Flannel: Now I can't even see most of the admin options
[01:50] <sebas_> I want to keep my Windows partition
[01:50] <BryanJK> dooglus: "ls: /home/bryan/Desktop/css.desktop: No such file or directory"
[01:50] <BryanJK> hmm
[01:50] <sanityx> Man, I hope backports does Pidgin 2.0
[01:50] <sebas_> can anyone help me?
[01:50] <sanityx> They really should, considering its at the same release level as the existing gaim
[01:51] <ncaller> I need to build something which requires zlib.h any idea what package I should install? zlibc ?
[01:51] <sanityx> Thunderbird would be great too.
[01:51] <[Meta] > ;-;
[01:51] <BryanJK> dooglus: (I have the icon on my desktop, i used tab, typed it out, and dragged it with that terminal command)
[01:51] <BryanJK> weird
[01:51] <KFDM> sanityx, it's not too hard to install pidgin yourself
[01:51] <netwkrtot> hi all, can u switch between workspaces using shortcut keys??
[01:51] <piercy> i added he code u gave me but now it says invalid or unsupported executable..
[01:51] <[Meta] > How do I add a user to the admin group?
[01:51] <BryanJK> dooglus: its not big deal though, dont worry
[01:51] <[Meta] > Through recovery mode, that is.
[01:51] <Centaur5> Is it possible for a server to have both Xubuntu and Ubuntu available for a network install with an option to choose which to do using pxeboot?
[01:52] <sebas_> netwrtot: control + alt + right|left row
[01:52] <ncaller> Or is there a way to see what files would be installed before doing an apt-get install <package> ?
[01:52] <wimdows> xtknight - looks like DRI is not enabled anyway...here's the full xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19181/
[01:52] <[Meta] > Help? :(
[01:52] <wimdows> ATI sucks a fat one
[01:52] <Flannel> [Meta] : Recovery mode isn't a GUI, nor was it ever expected to be used as one.  You go into recovery console, type that command, then reboot normally.
[01:52] <Moniker42> hi, i changed the boot splash screen a few weeks ago
[01:52] <Moniker42> but i've gone off it
[01:52] <[Meta] > I did!
[01:52] <netwkrtot> sebas_: great, thanks!
[01:52] <[Meta] > But it screwed it up.
[01:52] <Flannel> [Meta] : then instead of a normal login, you'll get prompted for some stuff to create your first user
[01:52] <Moniker42> how do i change it back to the default? ;)
[01:53] <[Meta] > -.-
[01:53] <Flannel> [Meta] : probably having to do with you not having an oem user, I expect
[01:53] <[Meta] > But I didn't.
[01:53] <[Meta] > Yeah, because I deleted it without knowing.
[01:53] <[Meta] > Ugh.
[01:53] <mike__> evening
[01:53] <Flannel> [Meta] : How much have you done with this install?
[01:53] <ffm> is there a way that I can hide my browser window quickly w/o closing it?
[01:53] <mike__> just me then
[01:53] <[Meta] > Flannel:  what do you mean?
[01:53] <piercy> lol ffm? porn??
[01:53] <AaronMT> bottom left iconj
[01:53] <piercy> erm i kno on macs u can do alt f11
[01:53] <Moniker42> ffm, move it onto another desktop?
[01:53] <Flannel> [Meta] : How much will you lose if you just reinstall?
[01:54] <[Meta] > Absolutely nothing, this is a clean install.
[01:54] <mneptok> move yourself to another desktop
[01:54] <Moniker42> ffm, or have the browser on a different desktop and switch to the one you're supposed to be doing work on :)
[01:54] <[Meta] > But I don't want to do it all over again. >_<
[01:54] <ffm> Moniker42: Not goona work, as Beryl makes my desktops trasmparrent.
[01:54] <[Meta] > Because it takes AGES
[01:54] <Flannel> [Meta] : Suggest doing that then.  Since, I don't know the details about how the oem stuff does stuff.
[01:54] <jnc> mneptok: in Russia, Desktop moves YOU
[01:54] <jnc> sorry.
[01:54] <Flannel> [Meta] : Do a real install, not the oem install.
[01:54] <[Meta] > Text mode?
[01:54] <SlickMcRunfast> How do I run two monitors with an ATI card?  I'm on a laptop.
[01:54] <[Meta] > :x
[01:54] <Flannel> [Meta] : yes.
[01:54] <Moniker42> ffm, well just put a wedge under the door handle or something so your mother doesn't walk in
[01:54] <Moniker42> anyways
[01:54] <piercy> lol
[01:55] <[Meta] > If I get on the other computer, can you help me through the install?
[01:55] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: depends on the driver
[01:55] <Moniker42> grub fix, anyone?
[01:55] <ffm> Moniker42: And, other desktops show what window is in them in the status bard.
[01:55] <mike__> bitchx Pineapples b0rk.uk.quakenet.org
[01:55] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: you must be a mst3k fan ;P
[01:55] <Moniker42> ffm, minimise? :)
[01:55] <Flannel> [Meta] : Then you don't need to deal with this oem stuff.  It's the exact same questions you just answered.  But, sure.
[01:55] <thelostpatrol> i can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it? i don't understand
[01:55] <jnc> "largemcbighuge"
[01:55] <SlickMcRunfast> jnc: yes
[01:55] <[Meta] > Okay. :P
[01:55] <kitche> mike__: wrong thing prehaps :)
[01:55] <Flannel> [Meta] : te "textmode" install, installs a GUI system, don't worryabout that
[01:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: would be good to understand what's going on though, eh?
[01:55] <[Meta] > I think I'll go log in to the other computer.
[01:55] <ffm> Moniker42: "What is that in your status bar?" (Yes, they called it a status bar)
[01:55] <kazol> I cannot install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" in Feisty.
[01:55] <Jonah> hey guys i use ubuntu, does increasing memory help performance much, also how much memory can ubuntu take - also if my machine has pc3200 ram and it's got 1gig, does that mean it has two 512mb dimms or do these dimms not need to be in twos so could it just have 1 dimm of 1gb?? just ordering more memory so don't know whether to order 3x1gb dimms or 4x1gb dimms and take old out...
[01:55] <SlickMcRunfast> jnc: its BigMcLargeHuge, my friend goes by that alias
[01:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: does "ls -la ~/Desktop" help?
[01:55] <[Meta] > Flannel: I didn't think it wouldn't. It's just I'm afraid of text installation.
[01:55] <kazol> I've tried both ndiswrapper and the fcutter thing.
[01:56] <sichemist> !xinerama | SlickMcRunfast
[01:56] <ubotu> SlickMcRunfast: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[01:56] <[Meta] > Mmkay. Time to do that then.
[01:56] <SlickMcRunfast> thanks
[01:56] <ffm> Jonah: Ubuntu can use an infinite amount of ram, iirc.
[01:56] <ziggy23> I need help with my display -- resuming after hibernation leaves it blank
[01:56] <ffm> Moniker42: "What is that in your status bar?" (Yes, they called it a status bar)
[01:56] <Flannel> [Meta] : heh, well... Its thesame questions as the GUI install, just... with terminal chraacters instead of GUI characters.  Honest.
[01:56] <snook353> how do i get the update manager to prompt me for an upgrade?
[01:56] <Moniker42> ffm, status bar = taskbar?
[01:56] <vox754> Jonah, really depends on your machine, some motherboard only accept pairs
[01:56] <furrykef> Does the AMD64 build of Ubuntu support 32-bit programs without needing a special chroot for them?
[01:56] <kazol> How do I install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)"??
[01:56] <lbawinowns> Please, can somone tell me how the recycle bin system works? I delete files from ntfs drive but there isno space freed nor does the normal recycle bin get affected
[01:56] <thelostpatrol> i can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it? i don't understand
[01:56] <[Meta] > Flannel: I usually do what's easiest. :)
[01:56] <vox754> furrykef, I think not
[01:56] <Moniker42> thelostpatrol, you need root
[01:56] <kazol> It installed perfectly in Dapper, but not in Feisty!
[01:57] <[Meta] > Alrighty.
[01:57] <ffm> Moniker42: In the world of non-computer users (jargon spurting idiots), yest.
[01:57] <Moniker42> as seen on the popular tshirt "Got Root?"
[01:57] <usser> Jonah: i got 2gb here, 2x1gb
[01:57] <ffm> Moniker42: In the world of non-computer users (jargon spurting idiots), yes.
[01:57] <Flannel> [Meta] : they're both the same easiness.  Just one's prettier... I guess.
[01:57] <thelostpatrol> Moniker42, how do i get root
[01:57] <lbawinowns> it is a bit urgent
[01:57] <SlickMcRunfast> goodbye everyone remember to ROLLFIZZELBEEF
[01:57] <furrykef> vox754 - is there an easy way to check for sure other than just trying it?
[01:57] <ziggy23> how do I get nvidia drivers
[01:57] <Moniker42> thelostpatrol, buy the tshirt, or you could type your root password when it prompts you
[01:57] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: ah, noted.   okay so there's proprietary closed-source drivers provided by ATI "fglrx", and the open source "ati" driver from the community.   the fglrx driver fakes Xinerama but it actually does not work with Xinerama, and the 'ati' driver also fakes Xinerama but you'll need mergedfb option in xorg.conf turned on
[01:57] <usser> thelostpatrol: u have to chew your way through the rock to get root =)
[01:57] <Moniker42> or prefix the command with "sudo" but make sure you know what you're doing, it asks for the root password because it can break the system
[01:57] <Flannel> Moniker42, thelostpatrol, Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  You use sudo to run the command (rm) in this case.
[01:57] <vox754> furrykef, I think the FAQ/ common question section in the wiki says Ubuntu doesn't support dual architecture
[01:58] <Jonah> usser, so do all dimms need to be paired or can you just put 1gb dimm in?? or does it have to be 2x512's? i'm going upto 4gb i think but do i need 4x1gbs? or just 1x4gb
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: sudo does not ask for the root pasword.
[01:58] <lbawinowns> No1 here got a ntfs drive?
[01:58] <SlickMcRunfast> jnc: so add one line?
[01:58] <thelostpatrol> Flannel, what's the deletion command?
[01:58] <Moniker42> Agrajag, it asks for the superuser's password?
[01:58] <Flannel> Jonah: Depends on your MoBo.  You'll have to consult it's docuemntation
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: no.
[01:58] <ffm> Flannel: You can also say !root
[01:58] <Flannel> thelostpatrol: rm (ReMove)
[01:58] <Moniker42> Agrajag, root and user password are the same for me...
[01:58] <ffm> thelostpatrol: rm
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: it asks for the password of whoever ran sudo.
[01:58] <Moniker42> !root | thelostpatrol
[01:58] <ubotu> thelostpatrol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:58] <thelostpatrol> Flannel, ffm, thank you
[01:58] <Flannel> Moniker42: no they're not.  Unless you've set your root password.
[01:58] <ziggy23> !nvidia
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: You added a root password?
[01:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:59] <sanityx> KFDM, I know its not but I don't like to go outside the packaging system. Makes it easier to maintain a clean system.
[01:59] <Moniker42> Agrajag, y'what?
[01:59] <usser> Jonah: sure u can, before that i had 1 stick 1gb, it is however desirable that your sticks are of the same size and models with similar timings etc
[01:59] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: I won't touch the proprietary drivers myself, so I don't know... the easy click and point way would be proprietary drivers as noted by ziggy23
[01:59] <Agrajag> Moniker42: Unless you specifically added a root password, root does not have a password.
[01:59] <usser> Jonah: if u gonna put more than one
[01:59] <KFDM> sanityx, I use the packaging system for most things but some things I don't mind building myself
[01:59] <dooglus> http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb <-- pidgin 2.0 for feisty
[01:59] <[Meta] > It came up with the oem one, Flannel. O.o
[01:59] <Moniker42> Agrajag, so you could just boot ubuntu and login as root without a password?
[01:59] <Alonea> !Envy
[01:59] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: the open source 'ati' drivers require a bit of tweaking if they even work at all
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Moniker42> which isn't the case
[01:59] <Agrajag> Moniker42: When you run sudo, sudo asks for your password and checks to see if you have permission to gain root privileges.
[01:59] <usser> Jonah: if u comp supports it i'd say go with 2gb+2gb
[01:59] <kazol> I cannot install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" card in Feisty.
[02:00] <Agrajag> Moniker42: no. no password means you cannot log in as root.
[02:00] <furrykef> I had read somewhere, though, that Edgy Eft might have biarch support for x86 and AMD64, and it's been one release after Edgy Eft...
[02:00] <Jonah> usser, so if i already have 1gb in there and if it's just 1stick, is it still better to order 4 sticks and take old out when going upto 4gb?
[02:00] <Alonea> i thought the bot had a thing on envy...at least it used it...
[02:00] <kazol> It's driving me nuts. I actually hate Ubuntu now.
[02:00] <Flannel> [Meta] : what?  You have the alternate CD, there's like... five options.  Three of them are installers.  Textmode (regular), OEM, and Server.
[02:00] <Moniker42> Agrajag, okay..
[02:00] <quio> Hello.  I am new to ubuntu.  I had the older version and had the bit torrent gui client.  The new version says it is installed but I cannot seem to find the application.  Any advice?
[02:00] <sanityx> KFDM, Yup I agree. And if it was life and death I'd build it or install a 3rd party .deb
[02:00] <KFDM> I've never had good luck with my broadcom card
[02:00] <sanityx> KFDM, But its really not.
[02:00] <insom> I've been assimilated!
[02:00] <Moniker42> i know what already, i'm not the one with the problem with root here ;)
[02:00] <[Meta] > Yes Flannel
[02:00] <sanityx> KFDM, I have broadcom too. ndiswrapper works like a charm.
[02:00] <kazol> I tried using ndiswrapper and fwcutter
[02:00] <lbawinowns> wtf is this ntfs-3g writing thing? How do I delete files?????
[02:00] <[Meta] > And I pressed enter on the text mode one
[02:00] <imperfect-> kmfdm.doingitagain.
[02:00] <[Meta] > And it appeared with the freaking oem
[02:00] <kazol> I still cannot install my wifi card in Feisty.
[02:00] <sanityx> kazol, ubuntu1501.blogspot.com has a good broadcom ndiswrapper guide.
[02:00] <Agrajag> Moniker42: no, but you seem to have the wrong idea of how sudo works. I'm just lettin' you know
[02:00] <Flannel> [Meta] : eh?  No.  They look the same, they aren't the same though.
[02:01] <KFDM> I haven't tried ndiswrapper with Fiesty yet
[02:01] <sanityx> Its for the inspiron 1501 laptop, but should apply to any card kazol
[02:01] <Moniker42> kazol, if it's a brand new card, take it back and get a compatible one :)
[02:01] <sanityx> sanityx, any broadcom card that is
[02:01] <KFDM> Just haven't bothered messing with wireless yet
[02:01] <sanityx> KFDM, The new network manager is awesome.
[02:01] <jnc> furrykef: 32-bit compatible libraries and a ld.so hack
[02:01] <Moniker42> wireless is made even more of a pain on ubuntu than windows because many of the drivers aren't supported
[02:01] <insom> should cover any broadcom from my understanding
[02:01] <Flannel> quio: If you just get a trrent, and then double click it, it'll run
[02:01] <Hamm_laptop> anyone have suggestions for a good book for linux noobs,  one that covers the terminal extensively?
[02:01] <KFDM> maybe I should try it later
[02:01] <Moniker42> at least ubuntu has a decent network manager...
[02:01] <thelostpatrol> okay i got the files i need deleted but now how do i delete a directory that is locked?
[02:01] <Flannel> !cli | Hamm_laptop
[02:01] <ubotu> Hamm_laptop: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:01] <KFDM> Trying to get pydev working with eclipse at the moment
[02:01] <k00giez> hello
[02:01] <[Meta] > Flannel: Then what's the difference? O_O
[02:02] <insom> that's because the manufacturer refuses to release the source
[02:02] <k00giez> how do i get root access with ubuntu?
[02:02] <Jonah> usser, well 2gb+2gb seems to cost more than 4x1gb....
[02:02] <gluttony> i just installed baryl, now my large windows wont minimize
[02:02] <dooglus> Agrajag: the root account is locked by default.
[02:02] <Agrajag> !sudo > k00giez
[02:02] <micahcowan> Hamm_laptop, http://www.unixmages.com/
[02:02] <Dave_is_sexy> guys i have a BIG problem, which I have diagnosed as due to "segmentation error".
[02:02] <Agrajag> dooglus: Yes, I explained that.
[02:02] <jnc> Jonah: basic desktop and web browser = 1GB per CPU core minimum
[02:02] <KFDM> k00giez, what do you need root for ?
[02:02] <thelostpatrol> gluttony, go to #beryl for help with that addon
[02:02] <Flannel> [Meta] : the OEM one is meant for OEM mfcs, so they can delay the initial user creation (username, timezone, language, etc) for the end user to setup after they buy
[02:02] <micahcowan> Hamm_laptop, the link I gave includes a book that is available for free online, or can be purchased via lulu.
[02:02] <k00giez> KFDM: i need root for vmware to get access to local disks
 Oh.  OK Thanks.
[02:02] <usser> Jonah: mmm yea i'd say it doesnt make sense to leave the old stick just go 4x1gb from the same manufacturer, same model
[02:02] <[Meta] > Flannel: I don't understand?
[02:02] <thelostpatrol> okay i got the files i need deleted but now how do i delete a directory that is locked?
[02:02] <k00giez> i really need a root access
[02:02] <insom> sudo vmware
[02:02] <KFDM> If it's a single command then sudo vmware
[02:02] <jnc> k00giez: 'sudo -s -H'
[02:02] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, sounds like a bug. What program produced the segmentation error?
[02:03] <Jonah> usser, ok i would say that you're totally awesome dude, i'll put my order in thanks a lot
[02:03] <k00giez> jnc: do you know how to activate root login?
[02:03] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,   sudo rm -d  /path/todir
[02:03] <dooglus> Agrajag: ok, sorry.  I thought you were saying that the root account had a null password.
[02:03] <BryanJK> dooglus: what do you do when you delete the application tray?
[02:03] <jnc> k00giez: root exists, it just has been disabled for password login
[02:03] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, thanks
[02:03] <KFDM> you can do sudo su to get root I guess
[02:03] <insom> man its been a long time since I've been on linux, good to be home
[02:03] <dooglus> BryanJK: I add it back to the panel again...
[02:03] <Flannel> [Meta] : During a normal install, you'll setup your first user, tell the computer what timezone you're in, and stuff like that.  the OEM thing doesn't do that.  So the manufactrer of a PC can let the end user (the person who bought the computer) setup their own timezone and stuff.  But still have a full OS installed when they sell it.
[02:03] <Agrajag> KFDM: sudo -i
[02:03] <[Meta] > Oh
[02:03] <KFDM> but I don't know why you would need to run completely in root
[02:03] <insom> I wouldn't suggest it though
[02:03] <jnc> k00giez: 'sudo -s -H' will get you a root prompt
[02:03] <Dave_is_sexy> i can't open text files, or run scripts. so i tried to start mousepad from terminal. it says "segmentation error". I think it's due to a power cut
[02:04] <Flannel> k00giez: You don't need/want to activate the root account
[02:04] <BryanJK> Its not in the add to panel selection
[02:04] <kazol> What package is the "NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4"? There are multiple entries in synaptec.
[02:04] <k00giez> jnc: do you know how to get root login in gdm to be activated?
[02:04] <[Meta] > Flannel: Do I use LVM or do I just wipe and install?
[02:04] <dooglus> BryanJK: right-click in the panel, 'add to panel', scroll to the bottom, and 'notification area'
[02:04] <insom> I agree with flannel
[02:04] <jnc> k00giez: wtf don't do that
[02:04] <Dave_is_sexy>  micahcowan: ^^^^^
[02:04] <jnc> :/
[02:04] <k00giez> Flannel: i need to
[02:04] <BryanJK> dooglus: OH, that... thanks
[02:04] <Agrajag> k00giez: why?
[02:04] <Flannel> k00giez: no you dont
[02:04] <Flannel> [Meta] : you don't need LVM, just wipe and install
[02:04] <jnc> no, you don't k00giez
[02:04] <k00giez> so that i can run vmware with partition access
[02:04] <[Meta] > Okies.
[02:04] <insom> k00giez: just sudo whatever needs root access
[02:04] <Agrajag> k00giez: wtf don't do that, either
[02:04] <ward_> the header files some software needs when you compile it, what map do they need to be?
[02:04] <kazol> What package is NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4??? This is driving me nuts here.
[02:04] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, didn't work
[02:05] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, what is mousepad, and how did you try to start it?
[02:05] <[Meta] > I only needed root when I was mounting Windows.
[02:05] <jnc> k00giez: you "can" do that, but the reason people are all telling you not to is because running X as root is bad for the planet earth
[02:05] <Agrajag> k00giez: share the disk you want vmware to have access to. If you use a physical disk in vmware, you can do major damage if you mess up
[02:05] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,  did you get any messages ?
[02:05] <lbawinowns> Hello. Please, does anybody succesfully removed files from ntfs drive? When I do no space get freed
[02:05] <panth3r> ?
[02:05] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: ....so i need 'scandsk'. by terminal it's a text editor. emacs is still fine. I'm not sure the ap is relevant, isn't it a HDD integrity problem?
[02:05] <insom> jnc: I heard it kills kittens
[02:05] <Hamm_laptop> Thanks guys
[02:05] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, this: rm: cannot remove `/home/mike/Desktop/avant/doc-pak/': Is a directory
[02:05] <dooglus> k00giez: if you insist: sudo sed -i 's/^AllowRoot=false/AllowRoot=true/' /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:06] <jnc> insom: limecat confirms.
[02:06] <[Meta] > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[02:06] <[Meta] > NOT THE KITTENS
[02:06] <k00giez> ok thanks
[02:06] <dooglus> k00giez: it's a bad idea though
[02:06] <Pelo> theconartist,   "rm -d"    -d is important
[02:06] <aoirthoir> whats wrong with the kittens?
[02:06] <insom> nothing
[02:06] <teenbeat2007> ok mayby a dumb question in wich way is 7.04 better then 6.10
[02:06] <Flannel> k00giez: don't come back here expecting us to fix stuff when you break it though
[02:06] <jnc> lbawinowns: there's a few common ways to try, are you referring to the write support in vanilla kernel ntfs driver?
[02:06] <insom> aoirthoir: running gnome as root kills kittens
[02:06] <arch_> how do I get a link to my home folder on my gnome desktop?
[02:06] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704
[02:06] <aoirthoir> teenbeat2007, easier install of codecs:)
[02:07] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, i did that
[02:07] <insom> Flannel: you know we'll try to fix it anyway though
[02:07] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: er, sorry.  wrong link
[02:07] <lbawinowns> jnc: I dont know what kernel is, but all I want is to delete files from my ntfs drive. It is like no space is getting freed
[02:07] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, I'm having a little trouble understanding what you did that caused you to encounter "segmentation error". The term /could/ mean HDD integrity problems... but the term is more frequently associated with badly written program code that attempts to access memory that doesn't belong to it.
[02:07] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour
[02:07] <insom> Flannel: after pointing and laughing of course
[02:07] <dooglus> arch_: funny you should ask that.  I was wondering how to get rid of the link to my home dir from my desktop, and why it's there at all - I never asked for it, it just appeared one day
[02:07] <eegore> I am using feisty 64 Kubuntu and I cannot seem to get the mic to work in team speak
[02:07] <jnc> lbawinowns: oh.   ntfs access is typically read-only
[02:08] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,  the d option is suppose to delete the folders,   try gksu nautilus and try do to it in gui
[02:08] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: Hmm. I cut the power cos it had been frozen for over 10 minutes
[02:08] <dooglus> arch_: I think you would run "ln -s .. ~/Desktop" to add the link
[02:08] <lbawinowns> jnc : i got ntfs-3g
[02:08] <insom> [Meta] : what're you installing?
[02:08] <Flannel> [Meta] : yeah, but youve learnt a lot about it ;)
[02:08] <arch_> dooglus: I remember getting directions in this channel as to how to remove it, and I did so, and now I've decided I want it back
[02:08] <[Meta] > I'm reinstalling Ubuntu on my laptop, insom
[02:08] <erpo> dooglus, arch_: To edit which icons appear on your desktop, run gconf-editor, and navigate to /apps/nautilus.
[02:08] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, what were you or your computer doing when it froze? And then when did you see the "segmentation error"?
[02:08] <insom> [Meta] : how come it took 3 rounds?
[02:09] <dooglus> arch_: my bad.  that doesn't work.  do what erpo said
[02:09] <lbawinowns> jnc: it works sometimes, but I must do the shift-delete
[02:09] <jnc> lbawinowns: uh.   oh god, you're using the GUI
[02:09] <[Meta] > Because the first time, I couldn't get into it (wasn't watching instructions for usernames) and second time I killed the oem user.
[02:09] <Flannel> insom: after he installed, he proceeded to break it.  We all do it.  I think my first time I installed at least halfdozen times
[02:09] <lbawinowns> jnc: what is GUI?
[02:09] <jnc> lbawinowns: "recycle bin" or whatever it's called
[02:09] <teenbeat2007> is the ati driver part improved
[02:09] <jnc> lbawinowns: empty that
[02:10] <Elda> GUI is Graphical User Interphace
[02:10] <eegore> I am using feisty 64 Kubuntu and I cannot seem to get the mic to work in team speak
[02:10] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: i wasn't doing anything interesting. clicked an svg that didn't open, so clicked it loads more and a million inkscapes opened up. then it froze
[02:10] <Elda> *Interface
[02:10] <glick> heh what a jerk reiser
[02:10] <Flannel> [Meta] : is there a reason you're not using the Desktop CD?  It installs much faster (of course, it's less flexible)
[02:10] <BryanJK> ibawinowns: Graphical User interface
[02:10] <insom> Flannel: really? this installed easier than a prom date
[02:10] <lbawinowns> jnc: yea, I thought so to, but it's empty
[02:10] <[Meta] > Flannel: My first time I did it first time over. :( (I'm female btw. :P)
[02:10] <eegore> is that an issue with alsa?
[02:10] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,   rm -f /path
[02:10] <kazol> Why the hell do I get this message when installing my wifi card: "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."??
[02:10] <lbawinowns> jnc: at least the one to down right
[02:10] <[Meta] > Flannel: Because the LiveCD always freezes.
[02:10] <insom> [Meta] : what does that have to do with anything?
[02:10] <jnc> lbawinowns: sorry mate, i'm one of those glow-in-the-dark cave crawling hackers that operates by typing in all commands, I shun use of the mouse :P
[02:10] <teenbeat2007> flannel: what about the ati drivers and do i do upgrade in ubuntu or a total clean isnatll
[02:10] <Elda> kazol, Im not sure, but it seems that it would be that its not locating your driver? :>
[02:10] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, okay. Then, after you powered it off, and powered it back on, did it load back to the desktop, or did the "segmentation error" happen before it could do that?
[02:10] <insom> [Meta] : females use computers too
[02:10] <Flannel> [Meta] : aye.  That happens.  I don't bother with ti anymore, since I know the alt.CD works best.
[02:10] <jnc> lbawinowns: welcome to the fray! :)
[02:11] <[Meta] > insom: Yeah, but Flannel  called me a he. :P
[02:11] <arch_> erpo: thank you much
[02:11] <insom> [Meta] : more should use linux imo though
[02:11] <lbawinowns> jnc: ^^ aha ok, I'm new to ubuntu :D, getting scared of the word kernel
[02:11] <spasticteapot> Hello all!
[02:11] <insom> [Meta] : ohhh ok excuse me
[02:11] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, ok i'll try that
[02:11] <kazol> Elda: I uninstalled all versions of network manager. Maybe I shouldn't have?
[02:11] <Flannel> [Meta] : I'm sorry if you took offense to it.  It's just a good choice for default gender.  Since, I'd rather that then neuter everyone
[02:11] <[Meta] > Flannel: I got the LiveCD from an IT convention thing.
[02:11] <Elda> No idea :>  Im rather new to linux myself :>
[02:12] <spasticteapot> Okay, what's going on know?
[02:12] <jnc> lbawinowns: kernel means "core" or "central group of functionality",  most computer uses of the word kernel refer to a bit of functionality that all other computer software integrates with
[02:12] <lbawinowns> jnc: anyway, can you hack with the terminal to see where all those file I delted went? It's no in the recycle vin :-/
[02:12] <spasticteapot> I have repeatedly messed up my Ubuntu installs, so I do know how to fix them.
[02:12] <[Meta] > And I installed it first time back in January. Then for some reason went back to Windows.
[02:12] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: they'll update as you upgrade.  That's the beauty of package management
[02:12] <insom> Flannel: typically in a linux chat room its a safe assumption
[02:12] <Madpilot> spasticteapot, best way to learn something is to break it first, I find :)
[02:12] <[Meta] > Got a virus the night before last and decided I'd had enough of Windows.
[02:12] <Elda> Linux is not limited to males :>
[02:12] <sethk> lbawinowns, you can use the find command.   You can use locate, if you've rebuilt the index since the files were moved
[02:12] <lbawinowns> jnc: it's like if my partition has it's own recycle bin
[02:12] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: desktop, but wouldn't let me open a script i wanted to run from cdrom. nor any other file. then i tried as root, and files on the hard disk and other media. nothing. then terminal told be "segmentation error" when i typed "mousepad"
[02:12] <usser> bah insom +1 =)
[02:12] <insom> [Meta] : I'm doing the dual boot thing
[02:13] <Flannel> [Meta] : well, welcome back ;)
[02:13] <[Meta] > I was dual booting before.
[02:13] <spasticteapot> Madpilot: Actually, the best way is to start with something broken, and fix it.
[02:13] <sebas_> when trying to install feisty, I get an error telling that the partition couldn't be formatted to ext3. Should I repair the filesystem?
[02:13] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, thank you, that worked
[02:13] <spasticteapot> Elda: Linux chicks are hawt.
[02:13] <[Meta] > Thankyou Flannel. *curtsey*
[02:13] <teenbeat2007> flannel: im a bit scared of updating, last time i did with feisty my system totaly crashed and had to reinstall everything
[02:13] <insom> usser: female also?
[02:13] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, after it said "segmentation error", did you still have a shell prompt?
[02:13] <Elda> lol
[02:13] <teenbeat2007> " times
[02:13] <teenbeat2007> 3 times
[02:13] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: Do you use Automatix? or any other third party things?
[02:14] <Elda> Hair getting turned on, hmm :>
[02:14] <teenbeat2007> no just the standart tool
[02:14] <lbawinowns> lol at you nerds -.- ...
[02:14] <Elda> Pelo being hair in spanish xD
[02:14] <kazol> I don't know what to do now. I get this message: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[02:14] <usser> insom: nah i just love those observations
[02:14] <jnc> lbawinowns: I don't know.   on my system, which is not Ubuntu, there's a Gnome based "recycle bin" in ~/.Trash   (Places | Home Folder,  press control key + 'l', type in ~/.Trash)
[02:14] <insom> [Meta] : good idea
[02:14] <dooglus> fjleon: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb
[02:14] <spasticteapot> Anyone know if Fringejacket has been here lately?
[02:14] <insom> usser: well 1200 users and one female has spoken up
[02:14] <insom> and had the... uterus to speak up.
[02:15] <spasticteapot> http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/
[02:15] <fjleon> dooglus, how would you remove gaim (ubuntu-desktop and nautilus complain)
[02:15] <[Meta] > insom: AHAHAHAHAHA
[02:15] <Elda> Oh so now Im not female?
[02:15] <spasticteapot> [Meta] : There is nothing scarier than a mad scientist of EITHER gender when pissed.
[02:15] <Elda> Ass hat >.>
[02:15] <insom> 2 females!
[02:15] <[Meta] > :D
[02:15] <dooglus> fjleon: I wouldn't bother
[02:15] <insom> we
[02:15] <Flannel> !offtopic
[02:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:15] <[Meta] > xD
[02:15] <lbawinowns> lol
[02:15] <insom> we're up to .001 percent
[02:15] <spasticteapot> Last I've checked, 50kv is not going to bias on gender.
[02:15] <[Meta] > Woops.
[02:15] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: yes
[02:16] <dooglus> fjleon: alternatively, I could make the package be called 'gaim' instead of pidgin - that might keep dpkg happy
[02:16] <jnc> insom: there's a lot of moms who use computers and write cobol... 40+
[02:16] <kazol> I hate Feisty. Ever since I "upgraded" from Dapper all my programs and settings were lost. Now I can't install my f*ckig wifi card.
[02:16] <jnc> then there's a gap
[02:16] <micahcowan> spasticteapot, look for FringeLicious. Not currently in this chan.
[02:16] <spasticteapot> Also, check out Motho ke motho ka botho's guide to speeding up linux. http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/
[02:16] <jnc> and now the younger CS majors.
[02:16] <lbawinowns> kazol - don't you upgrade from edgy?
[02:16] <dooglus> spasticteapot: last time I saw FringeJacket: #ubuntu-2007-02-12.log:16:10 -!- FringeJacket [n=katie@m085e36d0.tmodns.net]  has quit [Nick collision from services.] 
[02:16] <spasticteapot> jnc: I personally go for the Linux-using chixxors closer to my own age.
[02:16] <insom> Elda: I mean no offense of course I'd love to see the majority of people switch to linux
[02:16] <dooglus> spasticteapot: ie. 2 months ago
[02:17] <kazol> lbawinowns: I upgraded to Edgy, and I lost everything.
[02:17] <[Meta] > insom: Won't happen. :(
[02:17] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, it sounds like a bug in mousepad. Had mousepad been working before the reboot? And, did it come up with some sort of bug reporting tool after you got that message?
[02:17] <insom> then I could play starcraft natively
[02:17] <spasticteapot> dooglus: She had a connection on a cheap CNC thingamajig, and I was hoping to take her up on it.
[02:17] <lbawinowns> kazol - why ur flaming feisty ^^ ?
[02:17] <jnc> spasticteapot: I've had my "share" of female friends that genuinely liked computers, I know well enough to stay the hell away
[02:17] <spasticteapot> And then my life went to heck.
[02:17] <insom> [Meta] : well it could...
[02:17] <spasticteapot> jnc: Wha?
[02:17] <jnc> spasticteapot: Freak-y
[02:17] <glick> for some reason in feisty restart doesnt work correctly
[02:17] <[Meta] > insom: But then again, we all know who the smarter users are. The ones that use Linux.
[02:17] <Elda> lol Ive tried switching to linux twice before, hopefully third time will be the charm
[02:17] <glick> however when i choose shutdown it correctly shutsdown the machine
[02:17] <insom> [Meta] : granted
[02:17] <Peteki_> hey?
[02:17] <Elda> Though atm, Im somewhat ignorant of all this linux stuff xD
[02:17] <spasticteapot> Maybe it's just me, but being able to ask your GF how to work ifconfig is nifty.
[02:17] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: no mousepad was fine. i tried to reinstall it, but it wouldn't let me.
[02:17] <[Meta] > insom: Not while they install Windows on all new PCs.
[02:18] <insom> Elda: welcome then!
[02:18] <Elda> ty xD
[02:18] <micahcowan> spasticteapot, I think you're wandering offtopic...
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Elda: only 3x?..lol.. id love to share my trying linux experience, but it would take to long tt ype out..lol
[02:18] <Dave_is_sexy> how do i run a HDD check?
[02:18] <insom> [Meta] : dell is offering ubuntu
[02:18] <kazol> lbawinowns: I can't install a wifi card, even though others said it had more multivendor support. And it's a very common one, and even has a separate installation procedure in the Feisty summary wiki.
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> insom: are they actually offering it now?
[02:18] <spasticteapot> micahcowan: Eh, sorry....thought I was in ##trangle.
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> its been rmored
[02:18] <jnc> insom: show me a laptop for sale with Ubuntu preinstalled on it
[02:18] <Flannel> Dave_is_sexy: `sudo touch /forcefsk` and then reboot
[02:18] <[Meta] > insom: I have a personal vendetta against Dells. :)
[02:18] <usser> insom: they do now??
[02:18] <Elda> IndyGunFreak, its my third time trying it again, as I got fed up with Vista and the stupid driver issues -_-
[02:18] <usser> we're doomed then
[02:18] <Flannel> Dave_is_sexy: er, sorry.  `sudo touch /forcefsck`
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Elda: understood.
[02:18] <jnc> insom: i'm not kidding, I am in the market for one and can't find it on Dell's site
[02:18] <insom> IndyGunFreak: supposedly starting in september
[02:18] <Elda> IndyGunFreak,  well thrd time installing lol
[02:18] <micahcowan> spasticteapot, lol! :D
[02:18] <lbawinowns> Elda: yea, be careful, my linux crashed today because I didnt know ubuntu don't cares that my drive is out of memory -.-
[02:18] <Elda> Ive used it more that 3 times
[02:19] <jnc> Elda: ignorant how?
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> insom: i don't think they are actually installing Ubuntu on systems yet, it seems to be in the test phase
[02:19] <glick> their not offering it yet
[02:19] <Elda> LoL there are still MANY things I dont quite know about
[02:19] <insom> IndyGunFreak: I hope it passes
[02:19] <Elda> to do with linux
[02:19] <Flannel> Guys, this is a lovely conversation, but it needs to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <Elda> ooh, sorry :>
[02:19] <insom> Elda: you can do anything with linux
[02:19] <Elda> going there
[02:19] <ctothej> in gconf, if I want to signify the space bar, what should i type in (keyboard shortcuts)
[02:19] <micahcowan> Flannel, thanks, I was looking through fsck(8) for that :)
[02:19] <insom> except play starcraft natively
[02:19] <lbawinowns> insom : can you have 37 dekstops at once? huh? huh?
[02:20] <Cryoniq> Anyone know of a install of Pidgin for Ubuntu? Or is it the rpm and source compile that is available at the moment?
[02:20] <insom> lbawinowns: yes
[02:20] <k00giez> !vmware
[02:20] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:20] <Cryoniq> Pidgin 2.0 that is
[02:20] <insom> lbawinowns: actually
[02:20] <jnc> Elda: good.  you can keep folks like me in check (people who think they know everything) :)
[02:20] <k00giez> !virtualizers > k00giez
[02:20] <Elda> Ehhh, Im still trying to figure out how to increase the fps of my laptops ipg (igp345m)
[02:20] <Cryoniq> Ooooh! VMware in repository.. yay!
[02:20] <Flannel> micahcowan: it's in man shutdown, because it used to be tied with -F or whatever (which would just create /forcefsck), also...  /fastbook will circumvent your scheduled fsck, if you ever need to do that
[02:20] <insom> lbawinowns: like to see that done in windows
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> insom: i hope it passes to, but its still early in testing
[02:21] <Jack31> Is there anyway to recover changes in document done in KATE text ediotr?
[02:21] <insom> IndyGunFreak: lets call dell and nag them
[02:21] <Cryoniq> !pidgin > Cryoniq
[02:21] <jrib> ncaller: you can use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com to see what files are contained in a package
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> insom: i doubt that will do any good.
[02:21] <Flannel> Jack31: what?  Once you've saved it, unless there are backups, its changed
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> !pidgin
[02:21] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
[02:21] <insom> if we keep calling and change our voice we may break them down
[02:21] <jnc> insom: uh.   freecraft.
[02:21] <micahcowan> Flannel, yeah, I'd come across it before (either in shutdown(8), or else in an rc file or somesuch), but couldn't recall what they were called :)
[02:21] <lbawinowns> Windows is quite good, but it has some things particulary put in to pain the user :-/
[02:21] <insom> jnc: touche
[02:21] <Jack31> FLannel, I had edited an open document, and then my computer got restarted
[02:21] <Jack31> im trying to recover the changes
[02:22] <Jack31> :(
[02:22] <glick> i hope hans reiser will still develop reiserfs from jail
[02:22] <Flannel> Jack31: ah.  No, don't believe you'll find anything like that
[02:22] <Jack31> shit
[02:22] <Cryoniq> 0o
[02:22] <jnc> insom: show me a replacement for PeachTree Accounting, or for Viso
[02:22] <insom> lbawinowns: I dunno I don't like what windows stands for
[02:22] <Flannel> micahcowan: yeah.  Once I get a laptop, I imagine I'll be using /fastboot a bunch, whenever Im doing presentations and such.
[02:22] <Judo> server irc.gamesurge.net
[02:22] <insom> jnc: there's accounting software out there
[02:23] <k00giez> how do i install c header files?
[02:23] <Peteki> am i here?
[02:23] <Jack31> no
[02:23] <glick> write yoiur own accounting application to replace peachtree
[02:23] <insom> as far as visio theres an alternative there too
[02:23] <materacapo> hello
[02:23] <Peteki> fak me
[02:23] <dooglus> k00giez: depends which ones...
[02:23] <jnc> insom: gnucash doesn't do inventory.
[02:23] <glick> shouldnt be hard with python and wxwidgets
[02:23] <k00giez> dooglus: the one needed for ubuntu
[02:23] <dooglus> k00giez: the build-essential package will get you started
[02:23] <insom> jnc: you just like shooting me down
[02:23] <Gohalien> Hi, my windows borders gone, and I only can see 1 work area =( anyone can help me ?
[02:23] <dooglus> k00giez: you don't need any header files to run ubuntu - it's a binary distribution
[02:23] <micahcowan> k00giez, you usually want the package that has the same name as the library you want headers for, but with "-dev" at the end.
[02:23] <Peteki> thanmks
[02:23] <jnc> insom: I do work integrating *nix solutions for small business
[02:24] <Peteki> fuck me running
[02:24] <jnc> not even big business, it's just the way it is
[02:24] <insom> jnc: nice
[02:24] <lbawinowns> Anyway, a question about linux in general, is all the things in ubuntu and other linuxes just something that make terminal commands for you with graphics on top of it?
[02:24] <StriderZ> anyone happen to know why I did an upgrade and it basically removed ubuntu-desktop? (my box crashed during an upgrade previously). Should I just re-install it?
[02:24] <Flannel> !language | Peteki
[02:24] <ubotu> Peteki: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:24] <ward_> if i'm compiling something and it misses header files, but i'm 10% sure everything needed is installed, is there any map i can copy them manually into?
[02:24] <k00giez> dooglus: i have apt-get install build-essentials. but it seems that the vmware installer could not detect /usr/src/linux/include ... any ideas?
[02:24] <insom> jnc: if you ever need a sidekick look me up
[02:24] <dooglus> Peteki: it would be easier if you'd stay still
[02:24] <Pelo> Gohalien,  do you mean thetop an bottom pannels are gone ?
[02:24] <Flannel> k00giez: build-essential, not essentials
[02:24] <Peteki> sorry
[02:24] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. is rpm something working under ubuntu and is it anything to recomend?
[02:24] <ward_> 10% = 100%
[02:24] <micahcowan> k00giez, The standard library headers are in libc6-dev, for instance
[02:24] <dooglus> k00giez: linux-headers ?
[02:24] <dooglus> !info linux-headers
[02:24] <Gohalien> yes pelo, I only see 1 of them
[02:24] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:24] <jnc> lbawinowns: you're asking a nice well thought out question, sorry that things scroll by so fast
[02:24] <Peteki> ppl just dont get me
[02:24] <dooglus> !info kernel-headers
[02:24] <ubotu> Package kernel-headers does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:24] <Peteki> im new with these
[02:25] <dooglus> !info linux-headers-generic
[02:25] <glick> lbawinowns, no
[02:25] <Cryoniq> !rpm > Cryoniq
[02:25] <dooglus> ^-- that one, k00giez
[02:25] <lbawinowns> jnc: and too bad replyers aint really replying :p
[02:25] <Pelo> Gohalien,  right click on it,   add a pannel,  a new pannel will be generated,  move it to where you want ( bottom ) right click on it,  select add to pannel
[02:25] <ubotu> linux-headers-generic: Generic Linux kernel headers. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.15.14 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:25] <Gohalien> Pelo: when I activate the desktop effects, windows borders are gone, that means I cant move a window and only shows me 1 panel
[02:25] <insom> lbawinowns: pretty much
[02:25] <Peteki> argh
[02:25] <insom> lbawinowns: but so is windows really
[02:25] <StriderZ> geezus traffic is high in here...
[02:25] <Peteki> is quakenet on or not?
[02:25] <Gohalien> Pelo:  cant add
[02:25] <insom> lbawinowns: as is any GUI
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> Gohalien: thats been my prob to.
[02:25] <jnc> lbawinowns: if you'd like to pick my brain, I'm 12 years + using GNU/Linux based OS distros... drop me a privmsg
[02:26] <lbawinowns> insom, glick : how is ubuntu then
[02:26] <Pelo> Gohalien,  that's a desktop effect issue ask in #ubuntu-effects, they'll know how to sort you out
[02:26] <insom> lbawinowns: I'm digging it so far
[02:26] <lbawinowns> jnc: are you seriously 12 uaer old?
[02:26] <bsod> bleh kernel compiles take time:(
[02:26] <badkitty> Anyone have demonoid?
[02:26] <insom> i'm about 20 minutes into ubunto
[02:26] <Peteki> fak me raning i seee the whait rbit
[02:26] <glick> lbawinowns, some apps are gui based, some are command line based, some apps are simply gui frontends to commandline apps
[02:26] <insom> I came from Gentoo
[02:26] <Gohalien> IndyGunFreak:  did you fixxed it ?
[02:26] <jnc> lbawinowns: i'm 23.   I started out with a copy of slackware linux many years ago
[02:26] <Bicchi> What is the proper way to install an eclipse plugin that its not on the repository? Like subclipse
[02:26] <vox754> !ops
[02:26] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[02:26] <micahcowan> lbawinowns, I think you misread :) ...but there are 12 year olds here sometimes.
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> Gohalien: no.
[02:26] <glick> lbawinowns, manu applications have commandline equivalents
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> havne't figured it out.
[02:26] <bsod> insom: i heard good things about gentoo
[02:26] <jrib> vox754: ?
[02:26] <Gohalien> ^^
[02:26] <LjL> vox754: yep?
[02:27] <glick> lbawinowns, for example lynx is a commandline webbrowser
[02:27] <Peteki> ei toimi silim nui nopiaa
[02:27] <Madpilot> vox754, ??
[02:27] <Cryoniq> That is neat :) Reminds me when  I was 7 years old and lay my hands on my fathers ABC80/800 computer once upon a time :)
[02:27] <StriderZ> Some apps are even gui front-ends to cli apps...but still in cli...it's crazy....LOL
[02:27] <MindOfChaos> AfterDeath exists
[02:27] <insom> bsod: its great for the uber geek
[02:27] <vox754> jrib, hey things are getting strange here
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> why did someone call an op?
[02:27] <insom> bsod: BUT its really easy to bork
[02:27] <jrib> vox754: in what way?
[02:27] <bsod> insom: but once i started ubuntu i never looked back :>
[02:27] <usser> Cryoniq: omg i had one of those speccy z80 machines
[02:27] <lbawinowns> glick, interesting.
[02:27] <Cryoniq> :P
[02:27] <insom> bsod: I can see why at the moment
[02:27] <micahcowan> vox754, you mean Peteki?
[02:27] <vox754> LjL, Madpilot jrib any news with the new IRC ops or something, I read something about seveas
[02:27] <usser> Cryoniq: timex they were called here in the US
[02:27] <Peteki> gimme the command for quakenet
[02:27] <Cryoniq> Ah :)
[02:28] <Madpilot> vox754, did you seriously ping the ops just to ask that?
[02:28] <insom> bsod: though I'm about to install the nvidia drivers
[02:28] <LjL> vox754, that's not why you use the !ops trigger.
[02:28] <Lord_Maynoth_42> can anyone halp me? :D    I want my LCD monitor to turn off like it did in windows... it just goes to a black screen
[02:28] <vox754> micahcowan, yeah, that and another guys
[02:28] <Peteki> fuxk mew runinng
[02:28] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I am using the vesa driver for it
[02:28] <Cryoniq> Who didnt digg into the basic code of snakes back then ^^
[02:28] <insom> bsod: if my system explodes mid install I won't be all that impressed
[02:28] <badkitty> anyone use demonoid?
[02:28] <bsod> insom: my ati drivers where installed by synaptic... perhaps its the same for nvidia
[02:28] <insom> bsod: synaptic?
[02:28] <vox754> Madpilot, LjL, jrib sorry, I just thought people were going off topic and cursing
[02:28] <jnc> Lord_Maynoth_42: 'set +dpms' I think
[02:28] <bsod> insom: i have now ogl 2.0 with ati closed driver
[02:28] <micahcowan> vox754, you need to tell them who, so they can check it out.
[02:29] <wysiwyg> hihi
[02:29] <bsod> insom: the package manager of ubuntu is that
[02:29] <insom> aah
[02:29] <LjL> vox754: well *that's* a good reason for using !ops.
[02:29] <badkitty> hey
[02:29] <wysiwyg> how do i change boot splash, login screen and shutdown splash resolutions?
[02:29] <insom> so just install and go?
[02:29] <bsod> System>Adminsitration>Synaptic Package Manager
[02:29] <insom> hey kitty
[02:29] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. so.. decision decision.. compile Pidgin 2.0  or wait for apt package for ubuntu.. hmm hmm..
[02:29] <aoirthoir> I'm lookin for cursin..but cant find it.
[02:29] <LjL> Peteki, do you have an Ubuntu support question or have you just joined the wrong channel?
[02:29] <bsod> insom: yup
[02:29] <insom> I'm not cursin I'll get kickbanned
[02:29] <glick> i wish that game developers would also release native linux builds
[02:29] <badkitty> Does anyone have a demoinoid account who doesn't mindsharing an invite? :-D
[02:29] <insom> alright bsod... I'm going in
[02:29] <usser> Cryoniq: i dont pidgin is any different than gaim 2.0
[02:30] <bsod> oh is it a *that* kind of channel #here :P
[02:30] <Cryoniq> I never was any good deinstalling software I compiled and installed on my systems and I still suck at it..
[02:30] <glick> especially civilization 4 :(
[02:30] <Pelo> badkitty,  this isnT' a place to troll for torrent site invites
[02:30] <ziggy23> I have a Conexant HSF V.92 RTAD PCI Faxmodem.  I don't think it is a Winmodem,
[02:30] <lbawinowns> im feeling like and idiot now, bsod!
[02:30] <vox754> micahcowan, LjL sorry, again the ops. Please watch closely badkitty Peteki
[02:30] <nixternal> If it isn't related to Ubuntu support, please take it to the offtopic room. Thank you.
[02:31] <davro> could java 1.5 or greater be installed in fiesty ?
[02:31] <wysiwyg> how do i change boot splash, login screen and shutdown splash resolutions?
[02:31] <ziggy23> but I can't identify the chipset because ClamAV starts up when I click the .run file.
[02:31] <insom> bsod: wish me luck
[02:31] <bsod> insom: good luck :)
[02:31] <badkitty> I have a question, does anyone have twinview working with a DVI port?
[02:31] <jnc> LjL: I have a question not answered by google searches, are Ubuntu-preinstalled laptops for sale from Dell right now?
[02:32] <vox754> aoirthoir, pardon?
[02:32] <cables> jnc, not yet
[02:32] <jnc> I'm in the market for one, but I didn't see it listed on Dell's site.   ah, okay
[02:32] <Shadow_X> how do I find out what the encoding of my system is?
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> is Pidgin final release yet?
[02:32] <cables> jnc, however, System76 is a good solution for a preinstalled Ubuntu machine
[02:32] <aoirthoir> vox754, some things are offtopic so i am pming you
[02:32] <cables> IndyGunFreak, yep
[02:32] <jnc> cables: noted. thanks
[02:32] <StriderZ> Is there a site that compares and contrasts the different desktop options for ubuntu?
[02:32] <ziggy23> how would I get the modem running?
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> cables: thanks
[02:33] <jnc> ziggy23: 'minicom' terminal emulator is useful to talk to serial devices
[02:33] <micahcowan> Hi Dave_is_sexy
[02:33] <Flannel> StriderZ: We can do it ;)  What are you looking for?
[02:33] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan:debian:/media/cdrom# ./installer.exe
[02:33] <Dave_is_sexy> bash: ./installer.exe: Permission denied
[02:33] <jnc> ziggy23: if you can issue it some AT commands and the responses look sane, it might be a hardware modem
[02:33] <usser> Cryoniq: making a package now
[02:33] <usser> Cryoniq: of pidgin
[02:33] <Cryoniq> Ah =)
[02:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> jnc, thanks..
[02:34] <usser> Cryoniq: do u have amd64?
[02:34] <jnc> ziggy23: back years ago, I would use 'wvdial' to set up the chap-ppp scripts needed to get the modem to dial and connect
[02:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> jnc, do you know where do I run set +dpms?
[02:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> from terminal
[02:34] <kazol> I still can't install this wifi card! I Hate Feisty! Worse than Dapper.
[02:34] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, you can't normally run Windows EXE files from Ubuntu, at least unless you run them under wine or something similar.
[02:34] <Cryoniq> No Im on a 32 bit system
[02:34] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowon: hi. that's my error when trying to run a script as root (i know it's an exe, but it's just a stupidly named sh script)
[02:34] <StriderZ> Flannel: I'm used to the flexibility and "lightness" of rox+sawfish. I need to conserve resources and still be able to bind keys, have multiple desktops..Don't really need a lot of bells and whistles. Just usability.
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> cables: where is there a debian package?
[02:34] <vox754> aoirthoir, okay, I've read your comment. Don't worry, I was just reading a lot of nonsense and couldn't believe nobody seemed to care. Thanks.
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> or am i gonna have to compile it
[02:34] <Solver> Hi all.  The d/l page on ubuntulinux.org is broken for all mirrors for me (for 7.04 x86).  I could d/l the iso however by visting the relevant mirror
[02:34] <jnc> Lord_Maynoth_42: 'xset +dpms' command, I think.   there's a lot of funny sorts of things you can do with xset, 'man xset' has a list
[02:34] <cables> IndyGunFreak, nowhere now... build from source! It's not difficult.
[02:34] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, oh, okay. Can you do "ls -l ./installer.exe", then?
[02:34] <kazol> I cannot get a wifi card to work: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[02:35] <Cryoniq> I never had the heart to let go of my trusty 3.0 ghz Intel ^^
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> cables: ok
[02:35] <Braddf0rd> Hello ever1, could someone tell me why compiz keeps failing me? I had it running like 3 minutes ago and all of the sudden it just quit... and wouldn't come back on
[02:35] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: er, yes if i reboot again.  :(
[02:35] <kazol> How do I install this stupid wifi card!??
[02:35] <cables> !effects | Braddf0rd
[02:35] <ubotu> Braddf0rd: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[02:35] <StriderZ> Lord: what are you trying to do, again?
[02:35] <usser> he
[02:35] <ziggy23> There is a chipset ID program at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ but how do I shut off clamav to run it?
[02:35] <jnc> Lord_Maynoth_42: I have that same issue here, I just turn off the LCD power by hand, because the power light blinks when it is off...  it annoyed me either way and I gave up on it
[02:35] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, why reboot?
[02:35] <Lord_Maynoth_42> yeah
[02:35] <micahcowan> Are you on Windows now?
[02:35] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: incidently, mousepad works fine for root
[02:35] <insom> bsod: is apt-get a good option for driver install?
[02:35] <Flannel> StriderZ: Hmm.  Well, Xubuntu would definately be the place to start.  I personaly don't know if you can bind keys, but I can't imagine you wouldn't be able to.  So, that's certainly a good thing to take a closer look at.  #xubuntu might be able to answer the question re: binding keys.
[02:35] <Wriest_> where do I if I need help downloading a program?
[02:35] <glick> kazol did you try a google check?
[02:35] <Lord_Maynoth_42> xubuntu rules
[02:35] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[02:36] <cables> Wriest, ask here
[02:36] <StriderZ> Flannel: ah...cool. Thanks!
[02:36] <Gohalien> !nvidia
[02:36] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: wireless isn't working in linux yet :( I've spent days on it
[02:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:36] <Pelo> Wriest,  what program ?
[02:36] <Flannel> StriderZ: of course, You COULd always just install rox/sawfish.
[02:36] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, but not non-root? I'd file a bug against mousepad, at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[02:36] <Lord_Maynoth_42> wireless is spotty still :c I have a machine with a linksys 802.11g card that works great
[02:36] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and one with a dlink which wont work at all
[02:36] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :C
[02:36] <Wriest_> first java and then Azureus
[02:36] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, what wifi card do you have?
[02:36] <StriderZ> Flannel: LOL, yeah. I may go that route, but neither of those is being actively developed AFAIK
[02:36] <Flannel> StriderZ: they're in the repositories.  Grab the alternate CD, install a GUI-less option (it's called "server" on the alt CD), then install the GUI stuff you want.
[02:37] <kazol> glick: yes! I tried both methods. I could explain everything I did, but it would take a lot of time.
[02:37] <Wriest_> I already downloded them
[02:37] <vox754> aoirthoir, sorry, I'm not registered. But then again, I assure you I'm not a newbie. Don't worry. Sorry again. Come to #vocx.
[02:37] <Flannel> StriderZ: ah.  Well, that'd be the issue with that.  But, definately check out Xubuntu.
[02:37] <Pelo> Wriest,  you can get both from synaptic,
[02:37] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: funny that it happened at the same time as the root script permsiiosns though huh?
[02:37] <Pelo> Wriest,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[02:37] <Wriest_> oh really
[02:37] <kazol> I'm thinking of going back to Dapper or Windows XP.
[02:37] <insom> brb guys
[02:37] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: the card is irrelevant, i've got the driver working fine. it's an ip tables problem now
[02:37] <Pelo> Wriest, just make sure all the repos are installed
[02:37] <Pelo> enabled
[02:38] <Punkunity> lution
[02:38] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: it's all VERY difficult. and not being root when all you're doing is setting things up is such a pain
[02:38] <koyo001> hello having tons of problems installing java on fiesty
[02:39] <glick> i find it hard to believe that a network card would be working in an earlier version of ubuntu and stop working in a later version of ubuntu
[02:39] <koyo001> could someone help me out
[02:39] <jnc> kazol: that wifi hardware is a complete pain in the ass, I have it working on my grandfather's laptop system...  just nothing but trouble
[02:39] <jrib> koyo001: have you been to the wiki page?
[02:39] <jeffwheeler> Is there any way to take a normal Ubuntu session and move it over to live, or something with chroot where a live session can be created without rebooting? I'm sure there's something neat that could be done with this.
[02:39] <Pelo> koyo001,  just enable all the repos and install it from synaptic
[02:39] <micahcowan> Dave123, you can always become root. "sudo -i" works quite well from your admin user account.
[02:39] <koyo001> yes been to the wiki
[02:39] <jrib> koyo001: ok, so what errors did you get?  (use pastebin)
[02:40] <koyo001> c
[02:40] <koyo001> the errors are that it cannot load a doc file
[02:40] <koyo001> from java 5
[02:40] <koyo001> and the same from java 5
[02:40] <jnc> jeffwheeler: might not be what you want, but if you've got a core 2 duo CPU, you can boot the ISO of a live cd in a virtualized environment
[02:40] <jrib> koyo001: pastebin the actual error you receive and the command you entered to receive the error
[02:40] <BryanJK> dooglus: how do you put a trash icon on the Avant dock?
[02:41] <koyo001> wait let me generate it
[02:42] <SlickMcRunfast> is the site back up?
[02:42] <SlickMcRunfast> it was down this morning
[02:43] <koyo001> here is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19186/
[02:43] <Pelo> SlickMcRunfast,  ther is an easy way to find out ,  much easier then asking here
[02:43] <jeffwheeler> jnc: yeah, that's what I was thinking; just run qemu with the iso
[02:43] <Loco> Hi i've installed amsn by svn, or at least thats what i think, and when i try to executed by typing amsn in the console i get the following message: /usr/local/bin/amsn: line 3: exec: wish: not found. What does it mean?
[02:44] <jrib> Loco: you need the tk8.4 package which provides "wish"
[02:44] <Loco> jrib,  thats the thing that i've installed it as well
[02:44] <koyo001> jrib: posted the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19186/
[02:45] <mneptok> Loco: why not just install from repos?
[02:45] <Loco> mneptok,  cause that's a special version that lets you send messages while being offline and i want that just like windows msn
[02:45] <jrib> koyo001: that's to install java?  Why not use the repositories like the wiki explains?
[02:45] <SteveWrightNZ> I'm getting a lot of failed EXT3 filesystem errors, resulting in a remountro - is there a recent problem, or do I have a stuffed disk ?
[02:46] <jnc> SteveWrightNZ: :(
[02:46] <SteveWrightNZ> yer mate
[02:46] <glick> your disk is prolly biting the bit bucket
[02:46] <koyo001> can you give me the wiki you are using
[02:46] <hendrixski> I can't connect to a WPA wireless
[02:46] <SteveWrightNZ> glick: yeah I think so too.. just wanted to check before I ditch the whole system
[02:47] <StriderZ> hrm. Kubuntu - 1.3G, Ubuntu-desktop - 1.4G, Xubuntu - 892M, sawfish+rox - 241M.....LOL
[02:47] <jrib> !java > koyo001 (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:47] <hendrixski> supposedly if I have all the stuff installed in feisty for WPA wireless
[02:47] <glick> i had a disk die on me with alll my music and movies on it like 200 gigs worth, i was not a happy camper
[02:47] <jnc> SteveWrightNZ: swap out the disk and data before it eats platter.   you can determine if the drive has failed by booting a livecd and writing zeroes to the whole thing, watching for errors in dmesg
[02:47] <jrib> koyo001: in here, "the wiki" is wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[02:47] <SteveWrightNZ> jnc: k
[02:47] <jnc> hendrixski: common problem.
[02:48] <hendrixski> jnc, is there a common solution?  because installing wpasupplicant didn't seem to work
[02:48] <[Meta] > Augh
[02:48] <usser> Cryoniq: btw about that source code install/uninstall problem ry checkinstall
[02:48] <koyo001> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19186/
[02:48] <jnc> hendrixski: using Desktop | Admin | Networking  will break networkmanager
[02:48] <usser> *try
[02:48] <jnc> hendrixski: Fiesty?
[02:48] <koyo001> that was the wiki i was using
[02:48] <hendrixski> jnc, yup :-)
[02:49] <koyo001> the one for fiesty fawn
[02:49] <jrib> koyo001: what command gave you the output you pastebinned?
[02:49] <SteveWrightNZ> jnc: networkmanager will break anything - dont run it on a router  8-o
[02:49] <jnc> hendrixski: using NetworkManager requires that /etc/network/interfaces be devoid of any references to the wireless network interface
[02:50] <jnc> and um, "Network" configuration dialog makes changes to /etc/network/interfaces
[02:50] <jnc> so there you go. that's one theory why it's broken
[02:50] <koyo001> sudo aptitude remove sun*
[02:50] <jrib> koyo001: *remove*?  aren't you installing?
[02:50] <hendrixski> jnc, Ok... so, I should just coment out any changes to /etc/network/interfaces and it should work?
[02:51] <koyo001> i was trying uninstalling it to reinstall it all together through apt get
[02:51] <jnc> hendrixski: yeah, look it over and just comment out anything that you want NetworkManager to maintain
[02:51] <hendrixski> jnc, looks the same way I remember it being... only two lines:
[02:51] <jrib> koyo001: I don't understand.  Did you previously install it through apt or did you install it some other way before?
[02:52] <jnc> hendrixski: I hear this issue frequently, it may be the cause of the problem you're experiencing
[02:52] <koyo001> look
[02:52] <hendrixski> auto lo   ... and iface lo inet loopback
[02:52] <Wriest> ok I have azureus  in synaptic but it nothing to install it
[02:52] <SteveWrightNZ> ++jnc && ++glick && exit   /* thanks fellas  */
[02:52] <koyo001> i installed it on my girlfriends computer with apt get and worked fine
[02:52] <jnc> hendrixski: the only lines in /etc/network/interfaces should be those two, so that the loopback interface is automatically brought up on boot and set to loopback
[02:52] <jrib> Wriest: you can't right click > install?
[02:52] <slim> does any1 know how to get "dvd decrypter" to find my dvd drive?
[02:52] <jrib> koyo001: please prefix what you say with my name
[02:53] <hendrixski> yup... so jnc in theory it should "just work" ?
[02:53] <jnc> ERROR  expected ';' on line Steve. Abort
[02:53] <err0r> probleme wifi avec hercule wirlless
[02:53] <Wriest> no the apply button is blacked out
[02:53] <jnc> slim: what, like k9copy?
[02:53] <koyo001> jrib: tried installing it through synaptic on mine and it installed some packages and others it couldn't
[02:54] <kazol> I need to run this cmd to make my wifi work: "sudo modprobe bcm43xx." When I add it to sessions, it does not run, probably because it needs my passwrd. What do I do??
[02:54] <matt___> is it possible to use alltray in beryl?
[02:54] <jrib> koyo001: ok, so pastebin the output from: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[02:54] <koyo001> jrib: now been trying to install the missing packages cause i cant install nothing else now
 no the apply button is blacked out
[02:54] <matt___> also, is it a bad idea to remove compiz if i am using beryl? like, sudo apt-get remove compiz?
[02:54] <jnc> kazol: the contents of /etc/modules will be modprobe'd on boot
[02:54] <Cryoniq> usser, ooh, that is a neat util I really missed back in the days using slackware. (I should really take a month or so and just update my knowledge around administration).
[02:54] <jnc> kazol: that may be what you really want
[02:54] <kazol> jnc: but they don't!
[02:54] <jrib> Wriest: what happens if you do: sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:55] <kazol> jnc: I have spent hours trying to get my wifi to work in Feisty.
[02:55] <slim> jnc: no "dvd decrypter" is a windows program in "WINE" it runs dut it cannot detect devices?!!!!
[02:55] <jnc> kazol: privmsg, we'll work through it.  i'll give you 10 minutes :)
[02:55] <virus> please give me #ubuntu-fr
[02:55] <slim> but*
[02:55] <koyo001> jrib: gives me the exact same thing
[02:55] <jrib> virus: /join #ubuntu-fr
[02:55] <matt___> slim: one thing, make sure wine thinks it is windows 98, i think
[02:55] <reptyl_> newb here. i just downloaded thunderbird-2.0.0.0.tar.gz. how do i instal it? thanks
[02:55] <jrib> koyo001: and after you press enter?
[02:55] <matt___> slim: hold on
[02:55] <Wriest> it's working ans what about java
[02:55] <slim> matt: ok thank you
[02:55] <kazol> jnc: I'm not registered, so I cannot make private msgs
[02:55] <Wriest> same way
[02:56] <jrib> koyo001: or "no" and then return or whatever
[02:56] <noike> hello my usb printer is not detected
[02:56] <kazol> Is there a separate wifi channel? Is it like #ubuntu-wifi?
[02:56] <koyo001> jrib: it ends but incompleted
[02:56] <Acu> I have an .iso file - how can I see the content without burning it into a CD ?
[02:56] <jnc> kazol: /msg nickserv register yournewpassword
[02:56] <matt___> slim: i am looking for the tutorial i used, it is possible, and it works fine. i was in your boat a few months ago
[02:56] <jrib> koyo001: do you actually want the jdk?
[02:56] <glick> hey has anyone used or developed on wireshark?
[02:57] <jnc> Acu: mount it as a loop device
[02:57] <kazol> jnc: is that the syntax? where should I type it?
[02:57] <slim> is it the dvd shrink dvd decrypt tut???
[02:57] <koyo001> jrib: yeah cause apparently every other program needs it
[02:57] <matt___> slim: the one i used worked really well
 what about java do it same way
[02:57] <slim> ok
[02:57] <jnc> Acu: sudo -s -H;  mkdir mountdest; mount -t iso9660 -o loop myfile.iso mountdest;  ls mountdest; umount mountdest; rmdir mountdest; exit
[02:57] <jrib> !java > Wriest (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:57] <jnc> something like that
[02:57] <jrib> Wriest: you didn't get errors?
[02:57] <koyo001> jrib: tried installing other stuff and generates the same error while installing it
[02:58] <jrib> koyo001: ok, so have you tried doing what the message says?
[02:58] <jnc> Acu: in theory I think that the GUI archive manager should be able to peer into it
[02:58] <Wriest> no I'm downloading the azureus
[02:58] <kazol> does anyone here know howto run this cmd: "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" at startup?
[02:58] <jrib> Wriest: through APT right?
[02:58] <Wriest> no through the terminal
[02:58] <glick> hey does ubvuntu include programs that have crude names/
[02:58] <koyo001> jrib: cant find these exact packages, i find newer or different ones
[02:58] <matt___> slim: here it is. http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/ follow it step by step. im going to go, but if you need help, show someone the tutorial, and they can help you. but it is easy. i did this like my second day in linux, peice of cake! :)
[02:58] <jrib> Wriest: using apt-get command?
[02:58] <gravemind> hey synaptic says the software can't be authenticated. I know I can install it anyway, but how do I get it to authenticate?
[02:58] <glick> like if a developer creates an awesome program
[02:58] <jnc> glick: what like 'bitchx'
[02:58] <glick> but it has a swear in its name
[02:59] <glick> jnc, or like brainfuck
[02:59] <Wriest> sudo apt- get install
[02:59] <jnc> oh, brainfuck is fun
[02:59] <cables> !offtopic
[02:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:59] <kazol> is there a way to specify the passwrd as a parameter in this cmd:"sudo modprobe bcm43xx"??
[02:59] <slim> thats the tutorial im reading!!!
[02:59] <jrib> koyo001: hmm, search for "doc" on the page, and click "download" next to "J2SE 5.0 Documentation"
[02:59] <ConfidentiaL> what do I need to do if people in windows need a login to use my shared folders?
[02:59] <Wriest> yes
[02:59] <Madpilot> glick, nope. There's even a picture/movie organizing app called pornview in the repos.
[02:59] <fouressenc1> I'm having trouble with audio cutting out in 7.04.  I compiled ALSA 1.014rc4 for use with my Tascam US224 USB card, and it works fine aside from the sound halting fairly often --I actually have to stop whatever is playing, then restart it.  Any ideas?
[02:59] <jnc> glick: I don't see why they wouldn't
[02:59] <kazol> For example, "sudo modprobe bcm43xx <mypassword>"??
[02:59] <jnc> uhh
[02:59] <slim> matt: it goes all the way till its time to burn
[03:00] <glick> heh sweet
[03:00] <gravemind> ConfidentiaL: sudo smbpasswd -a
[03:00] <gravemind> ConfidentiaL: use your login username and password
[03:00] <kazol> how do I specify my password in a sudo cmd?
[03:00] <Wriest> yes I'm using  using apt-get command
[03:00] <jrib> kazol: it will prompt you for the password after the command
[03:00] <gravemind> hey do you guys know about authentication in synaptic?
[03:01] <jnc> gravemind: IIRC it's based on apt authentication
[03:01] <jnc> apt-key etc.
[03:01] <koyo001> jrib: could you give me the precise page for the wiki that you used
[03:01] <slim> matt: do you think that if i uninstalled wine and everything else and started the tutorial from scratch that would work??? (i already had wine installed)
[03:01] <gravemind> jnc: so if I get a message that it can't be authenticated, what do I do to fix it?
[03:01] <kazol> jrib: I want the cmd to run automatically at startup.
[03:01] <jrib> koyo001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java but your issue is unrelated.  You have a package that is set to install that is not what the wiki recommends
[03:01] <jnc> kazol: I don't think you do.   you could modify the sudo config to automagically grant access with no password, I urge you not to do that
[03:02] <jrib> kazol: what kind of command?
[03:02] <reptyl_> newb here. i just downloaded thunderbird-2.0.0.0.tar.gz. how do i instal it? thanks
[03:02] <ConfidentiaL> gravemind: It still doesn't work :S
[03:02] <Alonea> ok, I am trying to put on vmware, and someone sent me to a page where it said to install it through the repos. I did that, but it does not work. I click on the vmware server thing, it goes to loading phase, and then goes off.
 should I do java the same way sudo apt- get install
[03:02] <gravemind> ConfidentiaL: describe what happens
[03:02] <jrib> koyo001: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp is the page that has the link to the file you need
[03:02] <kazol> jrib: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[03:02] <jrib> Wriest: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[03:03] <jnc> kazol: more than likely you're doing it wrong, and there's a gap in communication here because I don't have enough information from you to suggest a course of action
[03:03] <insom> evil
[03:03] <|StOnE|> how i can activate beryl??
[03:03] <insom> truly evil
[03:03] <ConfidentiaL> gravemind: He still needs a password, and the password I set as smb password doesn't work...
[03:04] <insom> bsod: it didn't work :(
[03:04] <kazol> jnc: It's a long story of what I did, but I'm trying to get this stupid wifi card to work in Feisty. I installed the drivers, but they are not loading at startup. The cmd "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" makes it work, but I need it to run at startup.
[03:04] <insom> xserver wouldn't start up
[03:04] <gravemind> ConfidentiaL: it should work. is the username he's using the same as the one you put into smbpasswd? remember it's case sensitive
[03:04] <jnc> kazol: if you want a module to load at boot time, the name of the module must be in /etc/modules
[03:05] <kazol> jnc: so how will I do it?
[03:05] <Wriest> how do I get rid of the panels?
[03:05] <jnc> kazol: if it's not loaded, then the module is failing to load
[03:05] <Pelo> Wriest, right click remove
[03:05] <bsod> insom: bummer :(
[03:05] <ConfidentiaL> gravemind: should the "New SMB password" be the username?
[03:05] <kazol> jnc: it should have automatically loaded, but if I do it manually throught terminal the wifi works fine.
[03:05] <jnc> kazol: sorry, I understand this is annoying and complicated
[03:05] <bsod> insom: i'm still compiling the kernel for my stuff
[03:05] <n2diy> Wriest: Right click on them, and edit properties
[03:05] <insom> bsod: going round 2
[03:06] <bsod> :)
[03:06] <gravemind> ConfidentiaL: no, that's the new password. hmm maybe I gave you the wrong option
[03:06] <gravemind> just a sec
[03:06] <jnc> kazol: can you throw a copy of your /etc/modules up on a pastebin?  I'll have a look
[03:06] <bsod> insom: ltrs m8 i'm going sleep
[03:06] <Dave_is_sexy> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1688185 2007-02-22 22:14 ./installer.exe
[03:07] <Wriest> Is there a way to get rid of the panels and still have the icons on the desktop
[03:07] <jnc> there should seriously be a "Skills you need to learn, so that you are helpable"
[03:07] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan:^^
[03:07] <kazol> !pastebin
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[03:07] <insom> reiserfs, yes or no?
[03:07] <ConfidentiaL> gravemind: got it now, just needed to add the username after the command... Think I misunderstood you a little the first time
[03:07] <gravemind> ConfidentiaL: sorry, what you should be doing is sudo smbpasswd -a <your ubuntu username>
[03:07] <gravemind> yeah
[03:07] <[Meta] > Flannel: Its almost finished installing. :D Be back soon.
[03:07] <Wriest> Is there a way to get rid of the panels and still have the icons on the desktop?
[03:07] <Pelo> jnc,  don'T be mean, we all had to start somewhere, some just start a bit further back
[03:07] <ConfidentiaL> gravemind: thx for your help =)
[03:08] <gravemind> sure thing
[03:08] <cables> Wriest, yeah
[03:08] <cables> Wriest, just get rid of the panels.
[03:08] <insom> reiserfs or ext3? what should I go with?
[03:08] <cables> Wriest, right click>delete panel
[03:08] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, you should probably try invoking it with "bash ./installer.exe"; it probably is just missing a shebang line or somesuch.
[03:08] <Wriest> can you tell how please
[03:08] <Pelo> Wriest, right cick properties,  second tab make them transparent
[03:08] <cables> insom, ext3 probably... it's better supported
[03:08] <cables> Wriest, right click on the panel, hit delet.
[03:08] <cables> *delete
[03:08] <Dave_is_sexy> insom: reiserfs!! definately. less likely to screw you over
[03:08] <kazol> jnc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19190/ Please have a look.
[03:08] <jnc> kazol: can do, thanks mate
[03:09] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: I dunno, it worked a few hours ago
[03:09] <insom> reiser is faster isn't it?
[03:09] <jnc> kazol: what do you need ndiswrapper loaded for?
[03:09] <Wriest> and I will I get to my Applications and internet
[03:09] <gravemind> when I try to install amarok, synaptic complains about authentication. I know I can install it anyway, but how do I resolve this problem?
[03:09] <Dave_is_sexy> insom: yes. and less likely to loose your files. Reiser4 is actually finished now too. take a look
[03:09] <kazol> jnc: I have tried multiple methods for installing the wifi card.
[03:09] <kazol> jnc: should I edit the file?
[03:10] <insom> Dave_is_sexy: thanks
[03:10] <jnc> gravemind: your package 'debian-keyring' or 'debian-archive-keyring' might be screwed up.    I don't know what the equivilent is for ubuntu, but on debian that's what happens for me
and I will I get to my Applications and internet
[03:10] <jnc> kazol: yeah, it's not a big deal, you can't kill your system editing it
[03:10] <Dave_is_sexy> insom: linux format magazine did an excellent article on filesystems in 2004. might be on their site
[03:11] <kazol> jnc: I removed ndiswrapper. Should I try adding that modprobe cmd?
[03:11] <insom> I'm just concerned with installing these nvidia drivers :|
[03:11] <gravemind> jnc: so to fix that, just do a reinstall of those packages? btw, this seems to only happen with certain packages that I try to install
[03:11] <cables> Wriest, you'll have to have shortcuts to things on your desktop
[03:12] <jnc> kazol: 'fuse' is for some kind of user filesystem module, keep that. 'lp' is the hardware driver for your LPT378 printer port.  I would nuke the ndiswrapper line.   you won't need 'sudo modprobe ...' because anything in that file, line-by-line, is going to be loaded as a module.  the name of the brcm module minus the .ko should be fine
[03:12] <jnc> gravemind: apt gets confused when certificates and gpg keys expire. heh
[03:12] <morphwvutuba> evening folks, i have a mouse problem with my system76 laptop.  is there anyone there who's had mouse problems after upgrading to 7.04?
[03:12] <cables> Wriest, if you want more space, just have the panels autohide
[03:12] <Wriest> how do I make them auto hide
[03:12] <Pelo> Wriest,   rightclick, properties  explore the various options
[03:13] <kazol> jnc: then how come the wifi card won't load?
[03:13] <punkunity> join #fossrevolution
[03:13] <jnc> kazol: one step at a time
[03:13] <HearWa> I have been trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 for a few days but I keep getting a few "Failed to fetch" and "403 Forbidden errors". What can I do? Here's the errors: http://quickfry.com/pastebin/view.php?id=0
[03:13] <jnc> kazol: what does your /etc/modules look like now?
[03:14] <kazol> jnc: same, but without ndiswrapper.
[03:14] <jnc> kazol: okay, what's the name of that brcm driver that works for you?
[03:14] <Flannel> HearWa: those are third party repositories.  They're ... apparently not ready for Edgy.  And, actually, you really shouldn't be using debian repositories anyway.
[03:15] <Wriest> You guys are amazing thanx so much
[03:15] <HearWa> Flannel: What can I do to fix this?
[03:15] <n2diy> How do I request Dapper CDs from Shipit? Only Feisty CDs are offered?
[03:16] <kazol> jnc: Do you mind if I restart? my system is kind of messed up and I just tried to install another driver that might potentially work.
[03:16] <leroi_> how do i set up a monitor hooked to my laptop to a different resolution than my laptop screen
[03:16] <jnc> kazol: I could use some beer.  Go ahead, if you must, heh
[03:17] <HearWa> Flannel: I would have to remove those sites from my sources list, no?
[03:17] <Pelo> leroi_,  there might be somethinga bout it in here  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty  if not , check the forum
[03:17] <jnc> leroi_: there's no option that I know of to do this
[03:17] <osxdude> my power led won't light up. Not that you care ;)
[03:17] <catid> does anyone know how to get textual system status info on the desktop as i see in a lot of screenshots?
[03:17] <jnc> leroi_: it would probably be a vendor provided configuration utility
[03:17] <Golfnit> q: Ubuntu 7.04 trying to get Citrix to run correctly.  I have it installed but when I bring up the ICA manager, the fonts have spaces b/t them.
[03:17] <n2diy> jnc: Are you enchourageing the baby penquins to drink?
[03:17] <leroi_> jnc: ok
[03:18] <Golfnit> As seen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376735&page=6  but the script used didn't help
[03:18] <zerodai> leroi_: you will have to change your xorg probably
[03:18] <Golfnit> anything else I Can do?
[03:18] <jnc> catid: I forgot the name of it...  there's a few programs that do it. 'roottail' is one, um...
[03:18] <Pelo> catid,  I think you need to remove the quiet bit from the grub option
[03:18] <jnc> n2diy: baby penguins should drink iced tea
[03:18] <jnc> beer for me please.
[03:18] <osxdude> my power led won't light up. Not that you care. ;)
[03:18] <leroi_> zerodax: what will i need to change my laptop is 1280x800 and i need 1680x1050 on the other monitor
[03:18] <n2diy> jnc: Roger, roger, beer here.
[03:19] <Pelo> osxdude,  why should we ? it's a hardware problem
[03:19] <catid> Pelo: =)  yeah i've done that already.  i hate that it adds it back whenever i build a kernel the ubuntu/debian way
[03:19] <catid> jnc: Conky does it
[03:19] <jnc> conky sounds familiar
[03:19] <sakobatoneko> anybody know where to i can get some bootsplash
[03:19] <jnc> catid for teh win.
[03:19] <zerodai> leroi_: not sure but you will have to prob add another monitor entry for your other monitor and then switch
[03:20] <osxdude> Pelo: heh. JK right? It only goes out when I'm in ubuntu.
[03:20] <sakobatoneko> ?
[03:20] <Pelo> sakobatoneko, www.gnome-look.org or com
[03:20] <leroi_> zerodax: ok
[03:20] <morphwvutuba> my wireless usb mouse quit working after i upgraded to Feisty, but a wired usb mouse works & my touchpad still works.  any ideas?
[03:20] <sakobatoneko> any other web sites
[03:20] <Pelo> osxdude,  check forum
[03:21] <sakobatoneko> thanks pelo
[03:21] <osxdude> I made a thread.
[03:21] <Pelo> sakobatoneko,  google
[03:21] <Pelo> osxdude, I meant search the forum
[03:21] <morphwvutuba> kinda sounds like a hardware failure, but the receiver flashes to indicate communication with the mouse itself
[03:21] <osxdude> (that's to Pelo)
[03:21] <Golfnit> Citrix client help: Change, I used http://codtech.com/downloads/citrix-icaclient-10-ubuntu as the script  TIA
[03:21] <gravemind> what do I need to install for flac to work in amarok?
[03:21] <manitoba98> Quick question: Each and every time Ubuntu starts up, it runs an fsck on each and every one of my FAT32 storage partitions, which takes a minute. I know that creating /fastboot will cause it to skip this once, I was wondering if there was a simply way to have Ubuntu only run fsck, say, once every 10 startups, rather than every single one. Thanks!
[03:22] <|StOnE|> any person can help me couse because i installed beryl and emerald and i dont know how take effects
[03:22] <Pelo> gravemind,  possibly gstreamer
[03:22] <Pelo> |StOnE|,   #beryl
[03:22] <gravemind> Pelo, I think I have that, but let me check
[03:22] <n2diy> manitoba98: Sure, stop rebooting. :)
[03:22] <gravemind> actually I might just search 'flac' and install everything
[03:22] <osxdude> Pelo, I made that thread.
[03:23] <Pelo> gravemind,  the good the bad and the ugly
[03:23] <gravemind> lol yup
[03:23] <koyo001> can  anyone help me out with this
[03:23] <codecaine> how can I read a .xbe file on linux?
[03:23] <koyo001> i have something to aprove in a terminal window
[03:23] <osxdude> koyo001: what?
[03:23] <osxdude> koyo001, oh.
[03:23] <kazol> jnc: to install the wifi card (I beleive) I ran these cmds:
[03:24] <kazol> jnc: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[03:24] <Pelo> koyo001,  just user your password
[03:24] <kazol> jnc: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[03:24] <Flannel> HearWa: yes.
[03:24] <koyo001> osxdude: i need to aproved something on a terminal
[03:24] <kazol> jnc: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[03:25] <Pelo> koyo001,  approve what ?
[03:25] <gluttony> can some one help me find out why any sound passed to my speakers comes out with a ton of static in it?
[03:25] <Pelo> !sound
[03:25] <kazol> jnc: The wifi card never turns on at boot, but whenever I run that modprobe cmd, it always turns on and works.
[03:25] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:25] <HearWa> Flannel: I removed all those entries from sources.list but I'm still getting "Failed to Fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz"
[03:25] <manitoba98> n2diy: It's not a server; it's a desktop. Having it on 24/7 is not only a waste of power, the dull roar of my fans are not terribly pleasant when I'm sleeping, for instance.
[03:25] <koyo001> pelo: java runtime
[03:25] <codecaine> anybody know how to read xbe files?
[03:26] <Pelo> koyo001,  and what does the msg ask you to approve ?
[03:26] <Pelo> codecaine, what kind of file is xbe ?
[03:26] <codecaine> think  xbox file
[03:26] <koyo001> pelo: it gives me a window with many clauses but i need to press ok
[03:27] <n2diy> manitoba98: Fine buisness, to each their own. I have three boxes running here. None are servers, one is this box, on is the test box, and the third is the backup box.
[03:27] <jnc> kazol: okay, if it fails to load at startup, you'll see the reason why in 'dmesg' output
[03:27] <Pelo> codecaine, I guess you need a xbox emulator if there is such a thing, but I realy can't help you with that
[03:27] <ayande__> anyone that knows what i need to install in order to send mail through my php script on website?
[03:27] <koyo001> pelo: witch i cant do from the terminal window
[03:27] <Pelo> koyo001,  scroll down the with the arrow keys
[03:27] <HearWa> Flannel: Nevermind, I think I fixed it.
[03:27] <jnc> ayande__: I'm guessing there's a PHP lib that does it
[03:27] <kazol> !pastebin
[03:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:28] <SirBob1701> hey guys my terminal fails to open and i have no idea why.  only happens since fiesty upgrade
[03:28] <ayande__> hmm
[03:28] <jnc> SirBob1701: ouch.
[03:28] <ayande__> so i dont need any kind of serveR?
[03:28] <ffm> Moniker42: No, they are not. U
[03:28] <karimfayez> hey every body join the Egypt LOCO team channel @ #ubuntu-eg
[03:28] <jnc> SirBob1701: can you run 'xterm' ?
[03:28] <SirBob1701> ya i don't even get a error message
[03:28] <koyo001> pelo: yeah did that
[03:28] <koyo001> pelo: what else
[03:28] <SirBob1701> i'll dl it and let you know
[03:28] <Pelo> koyo001,   pgdown,  end  , that's all I hve for you
[03:28] <Pelo> koyo001,  Y key maybe
[03:28] <jnc> SirBob1701: maybe gnome-terminal got pooched
[03:29] <ayande__> jnc: what do i need to have installed?
[03:29] <codecaine> whats a program to read xml files
[03:29] <SirBob1701> i reinstalled it twice and it still poops out
[03:29] <morphwvutuba> koyo: i can't remember if anyone else said it, but did you try the space bar?
[03:29] <koyo001> pelo: tried the y
[03:29] <Pelo> codecaine,  gedit will do it
[03:29] <kazol> jnc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19191/ (Note-this is the output when the wifi crd is on)
[03:29] <LjL> karimfayez: no need to spam loco channels
[03:29] <HearWa> Flannel: Thanks for the help.
[03:29] <Pelo> koyo001,  I'm out of idea
[03:30] <jnc> ayande__: I'm no PHP programmer, not sure
[03:30] <zerodai> koyo001: are you in terminal window or in a terminal
[03:30] <SirBob1701> i find it odd that i don't even get an error message it just stops
[03:30] <karimfayez> LjL: i am not spamming...we just formed the team and its a kind of invitation
[03:30] <koyo001> pelo: worked with esc
[03:30] <Pelo> koyo001,  congrats
[03:31] <jnc> kazol: the last line of /etc/modules should be the name of the kernel module you use to load support for the wifi hardware
[03:31] <jnc> kazol: I don't see it in there
[03:31] <manitoba98> n2diy: So am I stuck with manually altering the init script to only run once every 10 boots? Is that all I can do? (Are there any side-effects to creating /fastboot, by the way, besides skipping fsck?)
[03:31] <n2diy> zerodai: It shouldn't matter.
[03:31] <jnc> kazol: oh my mistake, hang on
[03:32] <karimfayez> LjL: sorry if i was missunderstood
[03:32] <jnc> kazol: can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod' ?
[03:32] <SirBob1701> awg xterm doesn't allow vim to use syntax highlighting :(
[03:33] <jnc> it runs?
[03:33] <jnc> now try launching gnome-terminal from an xterm session and watch the output for errors
[03:33] <n2diy> manitoba98: Not sure, I don't shutdown, but certainly disabling fsck is a bad ideat, that is your file system check.
[03:33] <kazol> jnc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19192/
[03:34] <jnc> kazol: you should have a line at the end of /etc/modules that is bcm43xx
[03:34] <jnc> and reboot
[03:35] <SirBob1701> serial 105 error_code 2 request_code 78 minor code 0
[03:35] <SirBob1701> when i run gnome-terminal in xterm
[03:35] <Chetwin> Hi all!
[03:35] <jnc> SirBob1701: ew.
[03:35] <jnc> you poor fella
[03:35] <SirBob1701> haha oh shit
[03:35] <SirBob1701> gnome-terminal recieved an X Window System error
[03:35] <J-_> !ohmy | SirBob1701
[03:35] <ubotu> SirBob1701: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:35] <kazol> jnc: I'll reply once I reboot.
[03:36] <SirBob1701> freaking xterm won't even let me pipe it to a file
[03:36] <tokyo25> who made ubotu?
[03:36] <jnc> SirBob1701: dude, I suggest you verify that you're not having some RAM issues first before we go any further.  do a memtest86 scan overnight
[03:36] <Pelo> tokyo25,  the devil
[03:36] <manitoba98> n2diy: I know what fsck is, but I don't think it's necessary to run on all of my partitions, each bootup. Certainly no less harmful than having a system running fulltime, during which time no fscks are run...?
[03:36] <tokyo25> lol
[03:36] <n2diy> ! creator
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about creator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <SirBob1701> i did one of them already man
[03:36] <SirBob1701> :S
[03:37] <Pelo> tokyo25,  in't in the factoids at the end
[03:37] <Pelo> tt'S
[03:37] <Pelo> it's
[03:37] <tokyo25> ok
[03:37] <Pelo> damit
[03:37] <n2diy> manitoba98: If you are running Winders it is needed.
[03:37] <kbrooks> !tor
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <kbrooks> @tor
[03:37] <kbrooks> hmm
[03:37] <kbrooks> i need the tor factoid
[03:38] <kbrooks> !anonymous
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anonymous - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <Pelo> !botsnacks
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnacks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <Pelo> !botsnack
[03:38] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:39] <tokyo25> your annoying ubotu
[03:39] <jnc> manitoba98: fsck invokes replaying of ext3 journals, which is vital to do if your system loses power
[03:39] <jnc> though feel free to disable fsck if you enjoy losing your data
[03:39] <jnc> not going to stop you there :)
[03:39] <manitoba98> n2diy: "If you are running Winders"? I run Ubuntu almost exclusively, I boot into Windows only occasionally; such as to play games or test something. So I should leave fsck in? Do most distros do an fsck on all mounted partitions at every bootup?
[03:40] <whta> how long does it usually take for the wine repo to update with the newest version? i'm having some wine issues that i think the update will fix
[03:40] <n2diy> manitoba98: Yes. They should.
[03:40] <sn0tz|afk> when i followed these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:40] <Pelo> whta,  depends on the guy making the package for ubuntu,   less the a week usualy , couple of days most times
[03:40] <Madpilot> manitoba98, for ext3 partitions, Ubuntu does a fsck every 25-30 boots
[03:41] <sn0tz|afk> i booted w/it and it says could not find kernel image: linux
[03:41] <sn0tz|afk> then gives a boot: prompt
[03:42] <morphwvutuba> still trying to find some help with an inoperable mouse after Feisty upgrade
[03:42] <jnc> sn0tz: that sounds fun
[03:42] <admin__> I am having trouble with apt-get, there's a package (libx11-6), that it needs to upgrade, although if i do, Opera won't work, and I need opera, apt-get won't let me install anything unless that's installed, how can I override that?
[03:42] <manitoba98> Madpilot: That was the general impression I got; why do FAT32 partitions need an fsck EVERY SINGLE TIME?
[03:42] <jnc> morphwvutuba: be sure that your xorg.conf refers to /dev/input/mice
[03:42] <Madpilot> manitoba98, no idea - the only fat32 device I've got is my USB stick, and it's never plugged in on boot...
[03:42] <Pelo> morphwvutuba,  usd ? check in the forum, I'm sure there is somethign there, or try here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[03:43] <sn0tz> the only thing making me not throw this server out the window is pink floyd comfortably numb
[03:43] <morphwvutuba> jnc: it does
[03:43] <jnc> admin__: uh hey there, that sounds like an Opera issue
[03:43] <jnc> try opera support
[03:43] <sn0tz> so what is causing this
[03:43] <admin__> jnc: yes, but I can't upgrade that file, or else Opera will mess up, how can I get around it in apt-get
[03:43] <morphwvutuba> Pelo: couldn't find much in the forums yet... checking the guide...
[03:43] <admin__> jnc: It's a opera problem, yeah, it's already documented.
[03:44] <Madpilot> admin__, remove Opera, upgrade, then reinstall Opera - I'm running Opera just fine here...
[03:44] <jnc> admin__: I'm not into helping with closed-source software, sorry mate
[03:44] <admin__> jnc: you don't need to do anything with opera..
[03:44] <n2diy> manitoba98: They are the most vulnerable partitions? Remember, unless you are running seprate hard drives, the partitions share the same media.
[03:44] <admin__> You just need to tell me how to bypass apt-get isntalling that package
[03:45] <manitoba98> Madpilot + n2diy: Alright, I'll leave it on. One this that also annoys me about this process, though, is that it causes usplash to close, and brings me back to the traditional textual startup display in order to show me the results (something like: "/dev/sdb2: 60756/60756 files checked"). Is there a way to get around this?
[03:45] <nekojin> Hello, I am a new Linux user. I am trying to install Java and netbeans, and I got a .bin file from the download. How do I install from a /bin file?
[03:45] <jnc> I don't need to do anything for ya :P
[03:45] <manitoba98> n2diy: "Vulnerable partitions"?
[03:45] <Pelo> nekobaka,  for java, install if from  synaptic,
[03:45] <jnc> Madpilot has a cool idea
[03:45] <UnluckyMike> nekojin: its in the feisty repos
[03:45] <Madpilot> manitoba98, usplash not handling fsck gracefully is a known bug...
[03:45] <Pelo> nekobaka,  try for netbean there to
[03:46] <Pelo> nekobaka,  you'll find this very usefull  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:46] <Madpilot> manitoba98, it does that when it fscks ext3 parts too
[03:46] <nekojin> OK, thanks
[03:46] <jnc> sn0tz: there's too many unknowns
[03:46] <codecaine> whats a good advance ftp client with gui?
[03:46] <Madpilot> codecaine, Filezilla
[03:46] <manitoba98> Madpilot: So there's no way to "hide" the output from usplash? It kinda interrupts the seamlessness of my startup sequence.
[03:46] <Pelo> codecaine, gtkftp I think or gftp
[03:46] <Madpilot> manitoba98, not that I know of
[03:47] <jnc> codecaine: if you can manage the commandline, 'lftp' works with http, and 'yafc' is excellent for ftp and support for sftp
[03:47] <n2diy> manitoba98: Well, I'm not a hard drive expert, but if you have an MBR formatted by DOS/Winders, I would think it is more vulnerable the a pure linux on would be?
[03:47] <kazol> jnc: Thank you very much for your help. I had a stressful time today since I lost all of my apps\settings when upgrading to Edgy, then I had to move the computer to the 2nd floor since wifi did not work, and then the monitor broke! Anyway, it's all working now but network manager is not displaying the signal strength.
[03:47] <jnc> kazol: it's confusing that you'd lose any settings
[03:47] <jnc> everything should be in /home/yourusername/
[03:47] <jnc> if you backup that home dir, you're straight
[03:48] <kazol> jnc: when I first rebooted the system, it loaded a blank screen after login.
[03:48] <crl1949> What I want to do is pretty simple, so I must be going about it wrong.  I want to be able to print proper labels on CDs I've burned from .iso images downloaded.  I'm looking for artwork for the front of the 7.04 desktop download.  Where should I be looking?
[03:48] <insom> nvidia drivers installed successfully
[03:48] <insom> and my windows wobble
[03:48] <insom> thats enough for me to switch from the MS substitute
[03:49] <jnc> crl1949: glabels software worked on some address labels, maybe it could work for CDs?  I don't know about the artwork though
[03:49] <Pelo> insom,  from or to ???
[03:49] <insom> from
[03:49] <crl1949> Lables isn't the problem.  My disks are inkjet printable, and I have an inkjet CD printer.  I just need the artwork.
[03:50] <insom> linux has wobbling windows
[03:50] <Pelo> insom,  we know
[03:50] <insom> and they wobble faster than vista's
[03:50] <usser> insom: nah
[03:50] <Veronica-Bot> hey
[03:50] <user01> how do i get the windows to sparkle away like the fiirst window closing on the video on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM
[03:50] <insom> usser: what nah?
[03:50] <Pelo> insom,  you didn'T pay for vista did you ? say it ain't so ?
[03:50] <crl1949> Sun publishes a PDF in the same directory as the .iso downloads.  Much nicer than my crappy handwriting with a felt pen.
[03:50] <user01> user01: in beryl
[03:50] <usser> insom: they dont wobble for me =)
[03:50] <insom> of course I didn't
[03:50] <jnc> crl1949: haha.  :)
[03:51] <insom> usser: you can set them to wobble
[03:51] <jnc> crl1949: if you give me a size in pixels, I'll cook up some art
[03:51] <Pelo> usser,   menu > system > prets > desktop effects  ( in feisty)
[03:51] <insom> usser: it adds happiness to the interface
[03:51] <usser> insom: xgl for some reason eats memory as crazy
[03:51] <usser> insom: so i dont use it
[03:52] <crl1949> The printer does something like 1440.  I'd think 600x600 would work fine.
[03:52] <DigitalNinja> I have a network printer that I would like to use. I don't have the address. How do I print to it?
[03:52] <insom> usser: that's a downer
[03:52] <usser> insom: yea after an hour it goes up to 500 megs
[03:52] <crl1949> Of course, the CDs are 12 cm in diameter
[03:53] <Pelo> DigitallyStoned,  you'll have to setup samba to communicate with a windows machine  and I think there are instrctions here  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[03:53] <insom> usser: is there an alternative? I need xgl for my games don't I?
[03:53] <mneptok> insom: no
[03:53] <usser> insom: no
[03:53] <usser> insom: glx
[03:53] <insom> usser: ohhh
[03:53] <usser> insom: =)
[03:53] <insom> usser: been awhile
[03:54] <Jump86> anyone here tried pclinuxos yet?
[03:54] <usser> insom: xgl is just another 3d wobbly api's that i have to use since i have ati card
[03:54] <CapriSkye> ./ or . represent current dir?
[03:54] <mneptok> Jump86: welcome to #ubuntu
[03:54] <user01> desktop effects didnt work
[03:54] <insom> usser: so that isn't installed with nvidia?
[03:54] <Jump86> mneptok, ?
[03:54] <usser> insom: what?
[03:55] <mneptok> !offtopic > Jump86
[03:55] <insom> xgl has nothing to do with nvidia?
[03:55] <usser> insom: right
[03:55] <insom> thank goodness
[03:55] <Pelo> insom,  stop that
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[03:56] <insom> c'mon pelo wobble with us
[03:56] <sn0tz> when i followed these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick...i booted w/it and it says could not find kernel image: linux and i get a prompt saying "boot:" whats going on?
[03:56] <insom> glad I'm ADD
[03:57] <mneptok> Pelo: you lasted 5 minutes longer than i did
[03:57] <Pelo> insom,  there is a compiz config manager you can install
[03:57] <usser> i kind of like that burn out/in effect beryl has for minimizing windows
[03:57] <insom> yeah?
[03:57] <Pelo> yeah,  check in synaptic
[03:57] <Dolphin07`> hey, does anyone know if you can run Visual Web Developer 05 on ubuntu?
[03:57] <insom> thanks
[03:57] <Pelo> there isnT' much in it but ....
[03:58] <mneptok> Dolphin07`: Windows software does not run on Linux witout emulation or virtualization.
[03:58] <crl1949> Dolphin07: is that a .NET application?  If so it might run under mono
[03:58] <Dolphin07`> yeppp
[03:59] <jpiccolo> anyone know how to make my server's ftp transfer go faster?
[03:59] <Pelo> crl1949, tell me more about this mono ?
[03:59] <mneptok> crl1949: i'll bet it makes Windows API calls
[03:59] <petafile> what's a good dvd movie burning proggy?
[03:59] <usser> Pelo: mono is opensource implementation of .NET
[03:59] <petafile> gnome baker doesn't seeem to want to do that
[03:59] <Dolphin07`> i does mono work with ubuntu?
[03:59] <crl1949> It's an open source project to re-implement all of .NET.  They've already got the VM, compilers for C# , etc.
[03:59] <mneptok> petafile: Linux has apps. "proggies" are for Windows and the children that use it. >;)
[04:00] <Dolphin07`> because i can't seem to find an installer for it
[04:00] <jnc> crl1949: done
[04:00] <petafile> mneptok: do you know a good dvd movie burning app?
[04:00] <mneptok> petafile: Nautilus?
[04:00] <Pelo> crl1949,  can I run it in combination with wine ?
[04:00] <mneptok> Pelo: you don't have to
[04:01] <Pelo> mneptok,  link ?
[04:01] <mneptok> Pelo: Mono is Linux native
[04:01] <petafile> mneptok: does it burn it as a dvd format movie, or just as a file?
[04:01] <BlueLaguna> Are their any ubuntu packages that allow file transfers with windows mobile smartphones?
[04:01] <mneptok> Pelo: but it is not an "any .NET app will work with Linux!" solution
[04:01] <insom> umm
[04:01] <jnc> crl1949: something like this? http://osclab.net/px/ubuntulogojnc.png
[04:01] <insom> just put you audiots and videots folders
[04:01] <Dolphin07`> which installer of mono do i download for ubuntu?
[04:02] <Pelo> I'll look into it , thanks crl1949  and mneptok
[04:02] <insom> what's that pelo?
[04:02] <BlueLaguna> Dolphin07`: it's in apt
[04:02] <mneptok> Dolphin07`: Mono is included by default
[04:02] <Pelo> insom,   AutoCAd
[04:02] <insom> aah
[04:02] <osxdude> hey look an IP address
[04:02] <osxdude> My power LED Wont't light up when I boot into lunix. Any solutions?
[04:02] <mneptok> Pelo: AutoCAD is not a .NET app.
[04:03] <Dolphin07`> BlueLaguna:ah, so then how would one go about installing VWD
[04:03] <insom> gametap is my killer app
[04:03] <Pelo> mneptok,  well 2006 asks for the installs the .net framework
[04:03] <osxdude> hey look more IPs
[04:03] <osxdude> Hello?
[04:03] <crimsun> osxdude: would you please stop trolling?
[04:03] <osxdude> Sorry
[04:03] <BlueLaguna> Dolphin07`: I'm not sure what VWD is, but you can try apt-get install mono
[04:03] <Tanis143> Hello, hows everyone?
[04:04] <GrueTamer> im fine
[04:04] <mneptok> Pelo: Mono is simply a .NET compatibility framework. it's not going to allow AutoCAD to run on Linux.
[04:04] <BlueLaguna> or aptitude install mono, whichever you prefer
[04:04] <codecaine> for some reson ubuntu didn't auto mount one of my usb drive is there a specialist file I have to do it because I don't see any of my usb devices in fstab
[04:04] <mneptok> BlueLaguna: Mono is installed by default
[04:04] <osxdude> No, now I'm serious.
[04:04] <osxdude> My power LED Wont't light up when I boot into lunix. Any solutions?
[04:04] <BlueLaguna> mneptok: Is it really?
[04:04] <BlueLaguna> Interesting
[04:04] <Pelo> mneptok,  which is why I was asking about wine combo
[04:04] <BlueLaguna> Since when?
[04:04] <Dolphin07`> BlueLaguna:Visual Web Developer is the program
[04:04] <jnc> codecaine: that stuff has been abstracted into  HAL / DBUS now
[04:04] <mneptok> BlueLaguna: "which mono"
[04:04] <Tanis143> Well, I'm just now getting my Feisty fine tuned, and have a few questions
[04:04] <mneptok> BlueLaguna: IIRC, Dapper
[04:04] <jnc> codecaine: uh... Gnome's  Desktop|Settings|Removable Devices
[04:05] <BlueLaguna> mneptok: it isn't installed on my system
[04:05] <Pelo> Tanis143,  don'T keep us in suspence
[04:05] <BlueLaguna> but it's possible I may have explicitly uninstalled it at some point tho
[04:05] <jnc> codecaine: if you want commandline ninja style access, 'pmount' and 'pumount'
[04:05] <crl1949> jnc: pretty close.  Is that how you spell Feisty?
[04:05] <Tanis143> I have a HD44780 LCD screen that I'm wanting to get my temps and system states showing again. I found LcdProc, but a bit confused on it
[04:05] <codecaine> how do I auto mount a usb harddrive?
[04:05] <mneptok> [mneptok@set]  mneptok :: ls -l /usr/bin/mono
[04:05] <mneptok> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1974044 2007-02-27 07:44 /usr/bin/mono
[04:05] <jnc> crl1949: I'll upload the SVG then, you can edit the text to something serious
[04:05] <Pelo> Tanis143, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:06] <itsme123> Ok, I just got ubuntu and i don't know how to compile this game.
[04:06] <Tired_> Hi.  Is there anything in the repos that will display the SPD info for my system RAM?
[04:06] <Tanis143> But, it talks about server/clients and though I'm familar with what both of those are, I'm not sure which one I need to use
[04:06] <Pelo> itsme123,  what game ?
[04:06] <user01> nice that was a bad suggestion whoever suggest running desktop effects
[04:06] <Dolphin07`> mneptok:i can't figure out which version of mono to install
[04:06] <Tanis143> I know I just want the info to show on my pc, not anywhere else
[04:06] <itsme123> its called a steroids
[04:06] <user01> now beryl doesnt work at all
[04:07] <ANON12345> i am trying to compile a downloaded package from a source code, it's the new version of gaim which is now called "pidgin". I was able to finish the last step (sudo make), but now i am unable to find or launch pidgin, what should i do?
[04:07] <jnc> Tanis143: uh... smbus
[04:07] <jnc> hmm
[04:07] <mneptok> Dolphin07`: Mono will NOT let you run VWD
[04:07] <Shoeb> Hi, I typed sudo usermod -G ftpuser mark (mark is my username, and I was trying to put myself in the ftpuser group) Now it seems that I can't sudo anymore because it says I'm not in the sudoers file. But it let me do that before.. what went wrong? I can't even su - anymore!
[04:07] <Shoeb> Feisty
[04:07] <usser> ANON12345: do u have amd64?
[04:07] <morphwvutuba> Pelo: jnc:  thanks for the tips guys.  i think i narrowed it down to hardware failure.  have a good one.
[04:07] <Tanis143> smbus?
[04:07] <Pelo> Tanis143, inthe wiki you have the setups for sensors  you can display the info using pannel applets
[04:07] <ANON12345> usser: yes
[04:07] <scope006> i have my monitor set to 1440x900 60hz put my login screen is higher than that and all distorted.  It also happens if i launch a game and quit back out to the desktop
[04:07] <usser> ANON12345: i got a compiled package for u
[04:07] <Dolphin07`> mneptok:sooooooo how would i go about running it? is there a way to use wine?
[04:07] <jnc> Tanis143: I can't remember, but there's a way to walk your hardware's smbus
[04:08] <Tanis143> Ok, I'll check it out. Thanks Pelo
[04:08] <ANON12345> usser: thanks a lot, can you send it to me?
[04:08] <osxdude> WTF? Nobody is answering me! I'll tell you again:
[04:08] <osxdude> My power LED Wont't light up when I boot into lunix. Any solutions?
[04:08] <mneptok> Dolphin07`: i don't use Windows or its software. sorry.
[04:08] <jnc> osxdude: repeating questions usually yields fewer results
[04:08] <user01> i follow these instructions http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon  it was working fine then ran desktop effects and not its all messed up
[04:08] <mneptok> Dolphin07`: you could try using a different, free tool.
[04:08] <usser> ANON12345: ftp://whom.homeunix.org/utils/pidgin_2.0.0-1_amd64.deb
[04:08] <Shoeb> Hello?
[04:08] <crl1949> Has anyone got their hands on an "official" 7.04 CD?  If so, could they scan the face of it?
[04:08] <Dolphin07`> mneptok: ok thanks anyway
[04:09] <Pelo> itsme123, do you have the sourcecode for it or what ?
[04:09] <ANON12345> usser: will this work with the x86 version of ubuntu? thanks for the package
[04:09] <scope006> exit
[04:09] <Dolphin07`> does anyone know of any good windows virtual machines?
[04:09] <itsme123> Pelo: I guess....
[04:09] <user01> appartently desktop effects is beryl?
[04:09] <usser> ANON12345: oh no it wont
[04:09] <AVoidiam> HELP!  So when I try to install Ubuntu, it gets stuck at 5% of "Partitions formating".  THis is happened multiple times now.  I'm wondering if there is a problem with the hard disk perhaps.
[04:09] <crl1949> Dolphin07: I'm using Parallels
[04:09] <Pelo> itsme123,  what's the file ending ?
[04:09] <jnc> crl1949: just in case, http://osclab.net/px/ubuntulogojnc.svg
[04:09] <itsme123> Well, theres lots of files.
[04:09] <jnc> use inkscape program to edit
[04:10] <jpiccolo> how can i speed up my servers ftp or samba file transfer speed
[04:10] <jpiccolo> ?
[04:10] <punkunity> having serious problem with messing up my xorg.comf file
[04:10] <ANON12345> usser: do you have the x86 version of ubuntu?
[04:10] <Shoeb> Hi, I typed sudo usermod -G ftpuser mark (mark is my username, and I was trying to put myself in the ftpuser group) Now it seems that I can't sudo anymore because it says I'm not in the sudoers file. But it let me do that before.. what went wrong? I can't even su - anymore!
[04:10] <crl1949> looks like the LOL will be in the hole
[04:10] <usser> ANON12345: no, sorry, but anyway u can compile and install it like so:
[04:10] <usser> ANON12345: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[04:10] <Dolphin07`> does anyone know of any good windows virtual machines?
[04:10] <jnc> Shoeb: oh snap :(
[04:10] <osxdude> jnc: what?
[04:10] <Shoeb> jnc, don't even tell me!
[04:10] <cables> Dolphin07`, VirtualBox is a good free one
[04:10] <ANON12345> usser: thanks, i'll try it
[04:10] <usser> ANON12345: then in "gaim" folder do ./configure
[04:11] <AVoidiam> Has anyone ever had freezing problems like that?....on partitioning that is
[04:11] <usser> ANON12345: then sudo make
[04:11] <Dolphin07`> cables: thanks
[04:11] <Flannel> Shoeb: -G doesn't append by default.  It resets.  You wanted to add -a, which will append
[04:11] <usser> ANON12345: then sudo checkinstall
[04:11] <Shoeb> Oh, great!
[04:11] <jnc> Shoeb: if you can boot a live cd, mount your file systems, and 'chroot /path/to/mounted/rootfs /bin/bash', you'll have semi-access to it
[04:11] <mneptok> crl1949: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[04:11] <crl1949> Parallels is a very good virtual machine.  Not free though.  Hosts on Linux, Windows, OS X, guests everything from OS/2 to Solaris
[04:11] <Pelo> itsme123, it wouldhelp ifyou used my nick in each line you type to me,    what's the eding fo the file you downloaded
[04:11] <Shoeb> So it threw me off the admin group?
[04:11] <Tired_> Is there any kind of comprehensive RAM information utility in Ubuntu?  Not 'how much is in use'...
[04:11] <Flannel> Shoeb: you'll need to reboot, at GRUB, go to the "recovery console", then add yourself back to the normal supplimental groups: (specifically, admin): adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[04:11] <ANON12345> usser: ok
[04:11] <Flannel> Shoeb: correct.
[04:12] <Flannel> jnc: No need for a liveCD.  Don't be silly
[04:12] <jnc> Shoeb: it's just that I've done what you're describing (locking myself out) so many times, it is funny to me, even though it is kind of frustrating and confusing the first times
[04:12] <Shoeb> Flannel: Can you give me the correct command please? So I don't mess up????
[04:12] <jnc> awwe
[04:12] <usser> ANON12345: it will create a .deb package in that folder
[04:12] <jnc> but I likes to play
[04:12] <itsme123> Pelo: I got several files, some in .cpp and .h and such.
[04:12] <Tanis143> Pelo, I searched that wiki and found nothing on text lcd screens
[04:12] <rique> hello
[04:12] <jnc> Flannel: I missed that recovery console thing, good to know
[04:13] <Flannel> Shoeb: once youre at the recovery console (which will be a root terminal), `usermod -G adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin ftpuser -a username`
[04:13] <Flannel> Shoeb: where username is your username
[04:13] <rique> somebody could help me to install ardour on my machine?
[04:13] <Pelo> itsme123,  did you dl a bunch of files or did you dl an archive ? what was the ending of the archive ?  tar.gz ?
[04:13] <Shoeb> Let's try it out!!
[04:13] <Shoeb> llol
[04:13] <rique> anyone?
[04:13] <jnc> Shoeb: in the future, check out 'gpasswd' for modifying groups by hand
[04:13] <Pelo> Tanis143,  I though what you needed was your system stuff cpu, mem , fan , temp and stuff
[04:13] <kazol> I have just enabled Ubuntu special effects in feisty, but I cannot see the title bar, so I can't move the apps around. What should I do?
[04:13] <itsme123> pelo: yes it was a .tar.gz file but i extracted it.  Wrong move?
[04:13] <jnc> Shoeb: 'groupmod -G' is kind of ghetto. I don't use it anymore
[04:14] <Pelo> rique,  first check in synaptic for  a package
[04:14] <crl1949> mneptok: that's what I'm looking for.  Thanks!  (I wonder why they hide it so....)
[04:14] <Bradford> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu, and I typed the password wrong when installing, so idk how to login now... can someone help me please, fast
[04:14] <Pelo> itsme123,  no not the wrong move but it helps me know what you have
[04:14] <AVoidiam> Could really use some help...anyone have problems with partitioning phase of ubuntu install?
[04:14] <Tanis143> Well, I'm wanting those stats displayed on a HD44780 2x20 LCD screen
[04:14] <biovore> Bradford: boot into single user mode..
[04:14] <pratip> Anyone know anything about mrwtoppm and gimp. I have th epackages installed but the plugin doesn't show up in gimp.
[04:14] <Flannel> Bradford: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[04:14] <strabes> AVoidiam: just use the alternate install cd
[04:14] <jnc> Bradford: try the Recovery Console?
[04:14] <Pelo> itsme123,  look in the unpacked folder for a readme or a install file ,  open and read ,  get back to me
[04:14] <jnc> 'passwd yourusername' ?
[04:14] <strabes> AVoidiam: or partition your disk beforehand
[04:14] <user01> i followed the instructions for http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon then ran desktop effects now beryl isnt working
[04:15] <kazol> Why can't I see the title bar after I enabled desktop special effects?
[04:15] <itsme123> Pelo: k thanks
[04:15] <junkeR> hello,  how can I set Mozilla Thunderbird as the default 'send-to' email application?
[04:15] <biovore> kazol: beryl?
[04:15] <Tired_> Well, that sucks.  I was really hoping Ubuntu would work for me, but if I have to install Windows to get system information, then obviously it isn't ready yet.
[04:15] <jnc> kazol: uh, the Gnome panel?
[04:15] <Bradford> biovore, how do I boot into single user mode? It still needs to finish installing too, I think
[04:15] <Pelo> itsme123,  actualy,   gimme the link to the tar.gz file I'll have a look to
[04:15] <biovore> Bradford: when the box first boot up press esc and get into grub..
[04:15] <user01> is desktop effects beryl?
[04:15] <Flannel> Bradford: Follow that link, it'llw alk you through it
[04:15] <Flannel> user01: yes
[04:15] <jnc> Tired_: What do you need the SPD info for anyhow
[04:15] <Tanis143> Yes, beryl is for desktop effects
[04:15] <asherZ> how do i configure my Receive Window (RWIN) in ubuntu????
[04:15] <jlulian38> is ftp recursive?
[04:15] <jlulian38> like the console version
[04:15] <Tired_> To email to my motherboard manufacturer
[04:16] <Tanis143> Something I have yet to master as well (chuckle)
[04:16] <zerodai> Flannel: user01: no its compiz
[04:16] <kazol> biovore: I clicked on System-Prefs-Desktop Effects
[04:16] <kazol> jnc: I clicked on System-Prefs-Desktop Effects
[04:16] <jendead> well, looks like i got irc working on here
[04:16] <Shoeb> Flannel: It gives me the whole page where it explains me the differnet options..
[04:16] <biovore> beryl requires 24 bit color.. check your xconfig to make shure your 24 bit depth
[04:16] <jnc> jendead: hooray for new IRC users
[04:16] <Pelo> Tanis143,  that's where we all start
[04:16] <user01> Flannel:  well when i ran it now i have no effects whatsoever
[04:16] <Flannel> Shoeb: eh?  looks like you typed something wrong.
[04:16] <junkeR> hello,  how can I set Mozilla Thunderbird as the default 'send-to' email application?
[04:16] <Tanis143> I know, I remember my dos 4 days and feeling lost in the woods
[04:16] <jendead> tanis, i just got it installed today........ don feel bad
[04:16] <Shoeb> Flannel: Let me recheck.
[04:17] <Tired_> I guess overclockers don't use Ubuntu all that much.
[04:17] <Bradford> some small mistake I made in setting up beryl totally screwed everything up for me, so watch out.
[04:17] <jendead> i feel embarassed for being such a noob
[04:17] <Flannel> Shoeb: Oh.  No.  Sorry.  My fault.  Groups should be comma separated
[04:17] <Tanis143> At least a lot of my quick commands are now available in linux
[04:17] <Bradford> I had to reinstall
[04:17] <Bradford> :<
[04:17] <jnc> jendead: I feel dizzy from all these questions.  I like helping though
[04:17] <Flannel> Shoeb: no whitespace, just commas
[04:17] <jendead> grin. can i bother you with one too, jnc? :)
[04:17] <Shoeb> Ok Flannel  :)
[04:17] <jnc> jendead: shoot.  not with a gun though
[04:17] <jendead> eep
[04:18] <user01> obviously running computer computer effects screwed up beryl
[04:18] <user01> beryl isnt doing any effects anymore
[04:18] <usser> user01: can u open up console?
[04:18] <Msword> hello
[04:18] <jendead> ok, i installed this ntfs3g business, but it still isnt allowing me write access on my storage drive
[04:18] <Alonea> ok, I got vmware installed and wanted to know if it was possible to install a new vm on an external hard drive as it is reccomended to use a whole drive, not a partition.
[04:18] <usser> user01: and type in beryl-manager --replace
[04:18] <Shoeb> It worked, now I'm rebooting.. lets hope it works, loll.. thanks Flannel.
[04:18] <jendead> and hmr, this isnt letting me type apostrophes in xchat :(
[04:18] <jnc> jendead: bummer.  I haven't tried ntfs3g, it has a nice webpage though
[04:19] <junkeR> hello,  how can I set Mozilla Thunderbird as the default 'send-to' email application?  I tried searching in google but came up with 2 year old solutions that don't work
[04:19] <williammanda> what command will give me root access using nautilus?
[04:19] <Shoeb> All this because I can't seem to download vmware server using lynx :(
[04:19] <jendead> it sucks because it my storage drive :(
[04:19] <jnc> jendead: is there a tutorial or something that people have been following?
[04:19] <user01> usser: yep
[04:19] <biovore> user01: I have run into the beryl probablem as well.. it has to do with color depth on the display.. If your not running 24 bit color and start beryl the window manger can't render the window handles
[04:19] <Tanis143> Bleh
[04:19] <Msword> i need help, i'm trying to dl 7.04(i forget what its ussualy called) for a boot disk, and i can't figure out how to download it, when i go to download it it takes me to a page that says "cannot find page"
[04:19] <usser> user01: what does it say use pastebin pls
[04:19] <jendead> ill look for one, from what i understood you could just enable it and it would work (
[04:19] <Msword> are the mirrors down right now for some reason?
[04:20] <Tanis143> Has anyone used lcdproc in here before?
[04:20] <Pelo> Tanis143, check the forum  www.ubuntuforums.com
[04:20] <jnc> jendead: I could try and help, I don't have access to it though so I might ask a lot of strange questions :P
[04:20] <reptyl_> williammanda, gksu nautilus
[04:20] <LtL> junkeR - system > preferences > preferred appliactions
[04:20] <mosh> how can i install libxvidcore and libxvidcore-dev, everytime i try it says it wants to install libxvidcore4 insted.
[04:20] <Shoeb> Flannel: For next time, I shouldn't be using the command "usermod -F ftpuser username" ?
[04:20] <jendead> hey strange questions are good :)
[04:20] <koyo001> how to install bin files
[04:20] <williammanda> ty reptyl
[04:20] <junkeR> I have Thunderbird already set but it still only shows Evolution as the only option in the 'send to' options
[04:20] <koyo001> can someone direct me
[04:20] <junkeR> should I restart?
[04:20] <[Meta] > Whee. :D
[04:20] <Msword> anyone, are the mirrors down for dl'ing 7.04? its not working for me
[04:20] <mosh> i am using apt-get install
[04:20] <user01> usser: in #pastebin?
[04:20] <Pelo> koyo001,  just run them from the terminal as sudo
[04:20] <Gohalien> hi, looks like I broke my work areas, when I change to another one, only appears the desktop wallpaper, no menu, no icons, not even right click menu, any idea to restore them ? I already tried deleting and add them agaim, same issue.
[04:21] <Flannel> Shoeb: usermod -G group -a username, or use the graphical version (users and groups)
[04:21] <[Meta] > Thankyou Flannel. :)
[04:21] <LtL> koyo001 chmod a+x file.bin  the ./file.bin
[04:21] <Shoeb> Great, thanks Flannel and jnc :)
[04:21] <Shoeb> Appreicate it.
[04:21] <koyo001> pelo: yeah but from where
[04:21] <usser> user01: ah what the hell in #pastebin'd be ok too
[04:21] <usser> user01: !pastebin
[04:21] <jnc> Shoeb: it's cool that you are patient and keep on trying
[04:21] <Shoeb> :)
[04:21] <Flannel> [Meta] : glad you got it figured out.  Sorry the install takes so long ;)
[04:21] <Bradford> biovore, When I press escape at grub it doesn't do anything
[04:21] <Pelo> koyo001,  in the terminal,   they'll install themselves
[04:21] <jendead> jnc: i sent a pm because i cant mentally handle the text scrolling!
[04:21] <Msword> meow
[04:22] <Flannel> Bradford: you push escape to get to the grub menu.
[04:22] <Msword> anyone? are the mirrors for 7.04 down for some reason?
[04:22] <Pelo> koyo001,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:22] <jendead> does anyone know why xchat doesnt allow you to type a single apostrophe?
[04:22] <koyo001> pelo: i get the terminal but gime an example
[04:22] <Pelo> Msword,  we don'T know
[04:22] <StoneNote> '
[04:22] <jnc> jendead: I was thinking that, no pm show up unless you register your nickname though.  gotta send a message to user 'nickserv' with "register passwordthatiwant"
[04:22] <jendead> ooh
[04:22] <Flannel> jendead: your keyboard might be wrong.  Try changing to the one with....out deadkeys.  (or, maybe it's the one with deadkeys)
[04:22] <Pelo> koyo001, where is the file ?   cd to that  folder  then   ./filename.bin
[04:22] <Bradford> Flannel, ok, well it's here... now, it only gives me a recovery mode, is that what the "Rescue" was?
[04:23] <koyo001> pelo: do i need to be in the proper directory
[04:23] <jendead> wow, my name is registered already
[04:23] <koyo001> pelo: that was what i was getting at
[04:23] <Flannel> Bradford: What?  Yeah.  Recvery mode.  Really, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  walks you through it the whole way
[04:23] <[Meta] > :)
[04:23] <LtL> bitchx rules
[04:24] <knapper> I am in need of some assistance. I have 2 partitions. Part 1 I just installed fedora on, part 2 contains ubuntu. I finished the fedora install and rebooted, only to find that GRUB was wacked. It just keeps saying the loading over and over. I booted up with a ubuntu live CD and tried to do grub> root (hd0,0) and it says invalid. Its like it cant find the partitions.
[04:24] <sn0> pidgin 2.0 release osxdude :)
[04:24] <Pelo> osxdude, do you expect pity ?
[04:24] <sebas_> I get a 22 error on GRUB, who can please help me?
[04:24] <Evilzx> 1156 o well >.>
[04:24] <Pelo> !grub > knapper check pm
[04:24] <Msword> !download
[04:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:24] <user01> usser: thanks effect are back!
[04:24] <Pelo> sebas_,  #grub
[04:24] <usser> user01: no problems
[04:25] <user01> usser: what happened when i ran the desktop effects?
[04:25] <sebas_> Pelo, I just want to install another boot loader to replace GRUB
[04:25] <sebas_> do you know one?
[04:25] <GrueTamer> sebas_: try lilo
[04:25] <Pelo> sebas_,  i don'T sorry
[04:25] <GrueTamer> of course, lilo has its own little problems...but if you dont want grub, then lilo should work
[04:25] <usser> user01: there are two different programs for 3d effects beryl and compiz when u turned on the desktop effects u turned on compiz
[04:26] <sebas_> GrueTamer: can I boot lilo from a floppy?
[04:26] <usser> user01: which conflicted with beryl which was already running i presume?
[04:26] <GrueTamer> sebas_: i would think so
[04:26] <user01> usser: yes
[04:26] <usser> user01: so yea
[04:26] <Bradford> Flannel, k, i got it, thx. Now though, in grub the primary boot is the one that I just erased... why is it showing up? Does this mean I partitioned wrong or something?
[04:26] <GrueTamer> but maybe...
[04:26] <GrueTamer> sebas_: are you in ubuntu right now?
[04:26] <sebas_> GrueTamer: yes, but the problem is in another computer
[04:26] <reya276> Hello
[04:26] <Flannel> Bradford: er... wait.  Why did you erase it?
[04:26] <GrueTamer> ahh
[04:26] <knapper> Pelo, when I type (in grub) "find /boot/grub/stage1" it says "Error 15: File not found"
[04:27] <user01> usser: ok thought computer effects was beryl
[04:27] <GrueTamer> sebas_: well, lets see...
[04:27] <osxdude> Fine. Don't answer. GTG
[04:27] <GrueTamer> do you have your livecd?
[04:27] <reya276> any applications that are similar to Dreamweaver for this OS ubuntu 7.04
[04:27] <Pelo> knapper,  I'm not that good with grub
[04:27] <sn0> reya276 check out nvu
[04:27] <Gohalien> hi, looks like I broke my work areas, when I change to another one, only appears the desktop wallpaper, no menu, no icons, not even right click menu, any idea to restore them ? I already tried deleting and add them agaim, same issue. anyway to reinstall the workspaces stuff without reinstalling the whole OS ?
[04:27] <Bradford> I was tampering with something having to to with... Beryl. Then on reboot I'd get some form of BSOD, so I just erased the partition, and reinstalled Feisty...
[04:28] <GrueTamer> knapper: are you going through a new grub install?
[04:28] <sn0> hmm actually its not in feisty
[04:28] <sebas_> GrueTamer: yes
[04:28] <Flannel> Bradford: right.  So, you reinstalled.  GRUB has been reinstalled as well.
[04:28] <GrueTamer> sebas_: well, what you can try is booting the livecd and mounting the linux root partition
[04:28] <knapper> GrueTamer, yes
[04:28] <GrueTamer> knapper: hmm...
[04:28] <reya276> nVu
[04:28] <Msword> !ubuntu
[04:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:28] <knapper> GrueTamer, I just installed Fedora Core 6
[04:29] <GrueTamer> ah
[04:29] <reya276> can I get it from the Add/Remove place
[04:29] <Pelo> Gohalien,  I think you delete   /home/user/.gnome2  and reboot
[04:29] <reya276> sorry former windows vista user
[04:29] <Bradford> Flannel, Ok, well it's still showing two Ubuntus, the one still does the bsod, and now the new one tells me my password was wrong after resetting it... or I may have reset the other one... CRAP!
[04:29] <sebas_> GrueTamer: ok, i'll tell you how it is going
[04:29] <Pelo> reya276,  I thinks so,  just do a search for it ,  no caps
[04:30] <sn0> ah it seems nvu is being dropped and instead kompozer is being used for now instead
[04:30] <Pelo> usser,  we'll get a lot  of former vista users I think
[04:30] <GrueTamer> sebas_: youre not afraid of getting dirty with the command line, are you?
[04:30] <knapper> Anyone good with grub fixes?
[04:30] <Flannel> Bradford: If you erased the other one... You won't be able to boot to it.  This is all rather strange.  You ought to have two (one recovery, one not), for each kernel you have installed (which means, if you did an update, you'll have more than one)
[04:30] <usser> Pelo: right on =)
[04:30] <user01> usser: ok now my script doesnt work though
[04:30] <Pelo> knapper,   try asking in #grub
[04:30] <GrueTamer> knapper: ive screwed my own grub up so much that i have some ideas, does that help :)
[04:30] <usser> user01: what script?
[04:31] <mon^rch> can anyone tell me how to install a backdrop for grub?
[04:31] <mosh> how can i install libxvidcore and libxvidcore-dev, everytime i try it says it wants to install libxvidcore4 insted.
[04:31] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: do you mean like, a background or something?
[04:31] <mosh> pls help
[04:32] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: yep
[04:32] <GrueTamer> well, mon^rch
[04:32] <GrueTamer> first
[04:32] <GrueTamer> sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:32] <user01> usser:  to make beryl start automatically http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon_p3
[04:32] <Bradford> Flannel, well in the 1st boot in grub, I go into recovery and it says root@ubuntu, rather than jubilee, the user name I set up, for both ubuntu's... so how could this happen?
[04:32] <GrueTamer> lol
[04:32] <GrueTamer> nano is my favorite
[04:32] <GrueTamer> but if you like, you can use gedit, it doesnt matter
[04:33] <Pelo> mon^rch,  is new
[04:33] <Flannel> Bradford: Right.  Recovery is a root prompt.  That's all you'll ever get for recovery consoles
[04:33] <user01> usser: when i select beryl from the menu beryl doesnt load
[04:33] <mrigns_> VIM!!!!
[04:33] <mrigns_> ;P
[04:33] <mon^rch> not TAHT new
[04:33] <GrueTamer> gedit is easy, nano is my friend, as well as vim
[04:33] <mneptok> GrueTamer: try ne for a n00b-friendly CLI editor
[04:33] <ANON12345> usser: where do i find the "gaim" folder?
[04:33] <user01> usser: i have to have beryl --replace terminal window running
[04:33] <Shoeb> Flannel: How can I download VMware from http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ on Feisty server commandline?
[04:33] <usser> user01: restart the x server, log out and log back in
[04:34] <crdlb> user01: that guides is incorrect
[04:34] <crdlb> guide*
[04:34] <Bradford> Flannel, Well in the 2nd Ubuntu boot , under recovery It said "jubilee@ubuntu" and I set the password for that and root
[04:34] <budluva> anyone here able to get C&C3 running? im having problems getting wine to install the setup.exe
[04:34] <gumjo> hello how do I make this appear in right click menu (Open Terminal Here)
[04:34] <GrueTamer> Shoeb: sudo wget http://www.vmware.com/download/server/<filename> might do the trick
[04:34] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: go on...
[04:34] <usser> ANON12345: well i meant the folder of that messenger whats its name now pidgim?
[04:34] <Toma-> budluva: have you looked it up on appdb.winehq.org ?
[04:34] <crdlb> !info nautilus-open-terminal | gumjo
[04:34] <ubotu> gumjo: nautilus-open-terminal: nautilus plugin for opening terminals in arbitrary local paths. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 22 kB, installed size 640 kB
[04:34] <GrueTamer> do you see a line that deals with a background?
[04:34] <mneptok> Shoeb: VMWare is in the commercial repo
[04:34] <budluva> Toma-: yes, says wine should install it
[04:34] <user01> crdlb: what is a good guide?
[04:34] <GrueTamer> its gonna be commented
[04:34] <[Meta] > !amarok
[04:34] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[04:35] <Flannel> Bradford: that... shouldn't happen.  All recovery things should give you a root prompt, and that's it.  Im... not really sure what's going on with your situation
[04:35] <usser> ANON12345: u know folder in which u did sudo make before?
[04:35] <budluva> Toma-: but it crashes during file copy process
[04:35] <Pelo> GrueTamer,  it's never in there it needs to be added
[04:35] <[Meta] > That's not what I want. :/
[04:35] <user01> usser:  ok brb
[04:35] <[Meta] > !codecs
[04:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:35] <mEck0> how do I create an array in Java which don't have predefined nr of places? I.e. not like: Car[]  carList = new Car[3] ;
[04:35] <budluva> Toma-: tried this on my laptop and my desktop, both crash during file copy
[04:35] <crdlb> user01: help.ubuntu.com/community/compositemanager/Xgl
[04:35] <Flannel> mEck0: ##java is the place to ask
[04:35] <Toma-> budluva: i hate to break the news, but Bronze support means you wont be playing it
[04:35] <usser> crdlb: he has aiglx
[04:35] <GrueTamer> Pelo: oh, right, thanks
[04:35] <Shoeb> GrueTamer: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/VMware-server-1.0.3-44356.tar.gz -> Doesn't work.
[04:35] <crdlb> usser: oh then that guide is even worse
[04:35] <GrueTamer> is links installed?
[04:35] <crdlb> !autostart | usser
[04:35] <ubotu> usser: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[04:35] <crdlb> just do that ^^
[04:35] <ANON12345> usser: /usr/local/src , but i looked around there, and all of the folders in /usr, but i did not find the package i compiled before
[04:36] <crdlb> you should not be modifying anything
[04:36] <Shoeb> mneptok: I don't wanna do that as it sets it up too.. I'm scared for that, lol. I'm trying to follow http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto
[04:36] <Bradford> Flannel, yeah, idk either... I'll be back... this thing in recovery mode is giving all kinds of errors.... I can't even get passwd in before it starts listing off errors again
[04:36] <crdlb> usser: please refer all beryl questions to #ubuntu-effects
[04:36] <Toma-> budluva: id suggest adding the wine repos to your sources.list, and getting the latest version. then follow the guide on the C+C3 page at appdb
[04:36] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: add the line "splashimage <path to file>"
[04:36] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: no, I cant find a background entry :/
[04:36] <mneptok> Shoeb: the guy that sits next to me built the packages.
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> hw do you change the splash screen on Feisty?
[04:36] <Flannel> Bradford: suggest you just... reinstall.  I guess.  Since, there's definately something screwy goingon.  And, it's a fresh install, so you're not losing anything
[04:36] <usser> ANON12345: if u just did sudo make, then it just compiled the package not installed it
[04:36] <mneptok> Shoeb: he knows his packaging
[04:36] <user01> crdlb: the page doesnt exist yet
[04:36] <GrueTamer> sorry for that little misunderstanding mon^rch, i thought that the splashimage line came in it, but it doesnt
[04:37] <usser> ANON12345: to install the package u could do sudo make install or alternatively sudo checkinstall
[04:37] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: so that's it? :)
[04:37] <usser> crdlb: k
[04:37] <Toma-> budluva: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7440
[04:37] <mEck0> Flannel: thx, heter on freenode?
[04:37] <ANON12345> usser: how do i install it or where do i find the compiled package?
[04:37] <GrueTamer> but yeah, my line there may need a (<grub drive syntax>) in front of the directory, like (hd0,1)/, but mine doesnt
[04:37] <Shoeb> mneptok: Please check out the first few lines of that howto and let me know if you're sure, lol..
[04:37] <mEck0> Flannel: *here
[04:37] <Bradford> Flannel, alright... might as well... thanks for your help! :>
[04:37] <Flannel> mEck0: yes.  You'll need to be registered and identified to be able to join t though.
[04:37] <mneptok> Shoeb: /whois mneptok
[04:37] <GrueTamer> but then again, grub is a little weird for me, had to do some weird and seeminly impossible fixes
[04:37] <reya276> yes Vista looks cool and all but it just does not offer anything new
[04:37] <Bradford> Flannel, I should erase all other Ext3 file systems right?
[04:38] <budluva> Toma-: i have wine 0.9.33 which ppl have reported to install and play under feisty
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: u downloaded the tar.gz file right?
[04:38] <mneptok> reya276: yes it does. a new credit card bill.
[04:38] <Flannel> Bradford: uh, sure.  You can do that in the installer though.  don't need to do it beforehand
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: u know where it is located?
[04:38] <SnakesAndStuff> Howdy
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: u extracted it?
[04:38] <GrueTamer> howdy SnakesAndStuff
[04:38] <Pelo> mon^rch,  check on this page for he line to add  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Grub+simply+splash?content=29011
[04:38] <ANON12345> usser: yes, i did
[04:38] <Shoeb> mneptok: lol, I believe you.. I'm just saying I'm trying to follow that guide. If it's the same as just doing sudo apt-get install vmware-server, then I will.
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: then using console navigate to the folder in which u extracted it
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: ok
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: then issue
[04:38] <GrueTamer> oh, good link there Pelo
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: ./configure
[04:38] <usser> ANON12345: then make
[04:39] <mneptok> Shoeb: it's not. the packages are *MUCH* better.
[04:39] <usser> ANON12345: then sudo make install
[04:39] <SnakesAndStuff> anyone here had any luck with cinelerra in Feisty fawn?
[04:39] <usser> ANON12345: after which all should be well
[04:39] <Pelo> GrueTamer,  I just needed to find one with the command in it
[04:39] <user01> usser: i did ctrl alt backspace to restart and the beryl script doesnt work anymore :(
[04:39] <Shoeb> mneptok: Ok, so I apt-get install it?
[04:39] <Toma-> budluva: if you read the comments, the guy that reported it says he compiled with all those patches
[04:39] <ANON12345> usser: i did ./configure and make already, but i did not do "make install", i did not see "make install" on the manual
[04:39] <usser> ANON12345: and u can start pidgin by issuing command pidgin from console
[04:39] <usser> ANON12345: u should do it
[04:39] <Shoeb> Because it says it can't find it.
[04:40] <Dolphin07> hey, does anyone know how to log in as the 'owner'
[04:40] <Bradford> flannel, ok, well that's what I did last time... I told it to erase all EXT3, and then the swap for it too... but it's still there... should I instead of using the liveCD download the text install?
[04:40] <ANON12345> usser: ok, i will. thanks for the info
[04:40] <mneptok> Shoeb: yup
[04:40] <crdlb> user01: come to #ubuntu-effects
[04:40] <mneptok> Dolphin07: sudo
[04:40] <xianfeng1997> Hello
[04:40] <user01> \join #ubuntu-effects
[04:40] <Dolphin07> mneptok: just type 'sudo'
[04:40] <EADG> I'm running Midnight Commander in Screen & when I play an .avi MC calls VLC which plays the .avi in ascii. Any way to not play in ascii??
[04:40] <Pelo> Dolphin07,  you don'T log in as owner,  you own a folder  or you don't  set those options with chown using sudo
[04:40] <Dolphin07> mneptok: what's the password?
[04:41] <Flannel> Bradford: nah.  No need.  If you want to make sure, partition manually.  Or at least, get as far as the partition editor, delete those partitions, then go back a few screens and then use the automated partition thing
[04:41] <budluva> Toma-: ok how do i get the lastest wine .deb?
[04:41] <Dolphin07> ohh
[04:41] <budluva> or do i have to compile myself?
[04:41] <Toma-> budluva: see the wine install page at winehq
[04:41] <Dolphin07> thanks, all sorry i'm such a n00b
[04:41] <mneptok> !sudo > Dolphin07
[04:41] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: so I added: splashimage /boot/grub/dawn_of_ubuntu.png (just before the end of default options) think that'll work?
[04:41] <Toma-> budluva: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[04:42] <Pelo> mon^rch,  you can'T use a png
[04:42] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: i believe it needs to be in .xpm.gz format
[04:42] <GrueTamer> so, mon^rch
[04:42] <doojin> hi
[04:42] <GrueTamer> open gimp and open the file
[04:42] <Toma-> budluva: alternativly, just install the .deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[04:42] <Bradford> Flannel, yeah, that's what I did... to make sure I got it done... I emptied the Ubuntu partitions and set it up to reinstall in the empty space.... HMM!!! The LiveCDs up, I'm going to see what i can do
[04:42] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: then, save it as dawn_of_ubuntu.xpm
[04:42] <mon^rch> ok ty
[04:43] <GrueTamer> and after that, open up a terminal and type "gzip <file path>"
[04:43] <GrueTamer> i believe thats right
[04:43] <GrueTamer> it might be gz instead of gzip, its been so long since i gzipped something...
[04:43] <gumjo> I installed nautilus-open-terminal but it doesnt appear in right click menu...
[04:43] <Solver> gzip is the command
[04:43] <doojin> hi
[04:43] <mneptok> bzip2 > gzip :)
[04:43] <GrueTamer> alright, looks like my memory isnt that bad :)
[04:43] <Solver> bzip2 is good too :)
[04:43] <knapper> Anyone good with repairing grub?
[04:43] <doojin> Does ubuntu have a usplash manager?
[04:44] <GrueTamer> mneptok: yeah, but grub NEEDS xpm.gz files
[04:44] <eck> rzip > bzip2 ;-)
[04:44] <Dolphin07> mneptok: how would i use sudo to change the permissions of a file called /dev/vboxdrv/ to 666
[04:44] <doojin> I want to switch between usplash themes
[04:44] <Solver> more cpu intensive but you get better compression. gzip defaults to -6 while bzip2 defaults to -9
[04:44] <GrueTamer> knapper: i might be able to help
[04:44] <Pelo> knapper,  have you considered asking for help in #grub ?
[04:44] <mneptok> Dolphin07: that's a directory, not a file
[04:44] <budluva> Toma-: ok thanks, will give it a go with 0.9.36
[04:44] <knapper> No responce in #grub :(
[04:44] <GrueTamer> oh im good!
[04:44] <Solver> more cpu intensive but you get better compression. gzip defaults to -6 while bzip2 defaults to -9
[04:44] <moleboy> I need help
[04:44] <knapper> I followed that guide that was PMed to me
[04:44] <Solver> oops :)
[04:44] <Dolphin07> mneptok: ummm actually it's a file, i'm such a n00b that i added a /
[04:45] <gumjo> does anyone here use "nautilus-open-terminal"?
[04:45] <moleboy> Can someone please help me get internet onto my Fiesty Fawn?
[04:45] <knapper> I typed su, grub, find /boot/grub/stage1/ it says Error 15 something something
[04:45] <GrueTamer> moleboy: are you over a wireless connection?
[04:45] <adamhman> can anyone give me advise on if my hard drive is partitioned correctly?  and what I still have to do?  http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5411/screenshotinstallyl5.png
[04:45] <mneptok> Dolphin07: sudo chmod 666 /dev/vboxdrv
[04:45] <moleboy> yes GrueTamer
[04:45] <demonspork> moleboy what type of network card do you have?
[04:45] <nekojin> Pelo: Thanks again for the advice and the link. I appreciate it
[04:45] <moleboy> 2wire
[04:45] <Dolphin07> mneptok: thanks
[04:45] <demonspork> ahh
[04:45] <GrueTamer> moleboy: ill find that guide...a lot of people have this problem
[04:45] <moleboy> Thank you!
[04:45] <demonspork> hmmph
[04:45] <demonspork> I didn't have a guide
[04:46] <moleboy> I'm a newbie to Linux altogether.
[04:46] <demonspork> when I installed linux on a wireless card I didn't have access to another computer
[04:46] <GrueTamer> lol
[04:46] <usser> adamhman: yep looks ok as long as u gonna format that fat32 into ext3
[04:46] <GrueTamer> feel free to take them from me
[04:46] <demonspork> that was my first linux install ever
[04:46] <Bradford> moleboy, lolz me 2, high 5!!!
[04:46] <knapper> GrueTamer: I typed su, grub, find /boot/grub/stage1/ it says Error 15 something something
[04:46] <GrueTamer> hmm...
[04:46] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: so I added: splashimage /boot/grub/dawn_of_ubuntu.xpm is that all ?
[04:46] <demonspork> I had to figure out how to use ndiswrapper from the man pages in SuSe
[04:46] <adamhman> thanks usser!  So I should change the fat32 to ext3?
[04:46] <moleboy> YAY!
[04:46] <Pelo> GrueTamer,  I 've had the run of the channel before,, I know the rush or power,  enjoy
[04:47] <moleboy> *high fives*
[04:47] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: add your grub drive, partition syntax for ubuntu before the first /
[04:47] <GrueTamer> in parenthesis
[04:47] <usser> adamhman: yea where there u put a checkmark "format" so i guess its gonna format it as is
[04:47] <usser> adamhman: to ext3 and install ubuntu there
[04:47] <GrueTamer> you might not have to do that if grub is on the drive that ubuntu is, but you may
[04:47] <knapper> I assume that was for me?
[04:47] <Bradford> moleboy **vomits on self**
[04:47] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: hunh? could you give me an example please?
[04:47] <moleboy> Ok, who is helping me?
[04:47] <moleboy> XD
[04:47] <GrueTamer> knapper: nah, im still trying to diagnose your problem
[04:47] <knapper> ohhhh hehe ok no prob
[04:48] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: (hd0,1)/boot/grub/dawn_of_ubuntu.xpm
[04:48] <GrueTamer> oh, wait
[04:48] <GrueTamer> you have to gzip that
[04:48] <mosh> exit
[04:48] <moleboy> Bradford!
[04:48] <GrueTamer> in the terminal, type "gzip /boot/grub/dawn_of_ubuntu.xpm"
[04:48] <moleboy> I know a guy named bradford!
[04:48] <peepsalot> is the alternate cd required for a RAID setup?
[04:48] <zilly66> does anyone know how to speed up GRIP's ripper? (not encoder)
[04:48] <reya276> I tried looking for Kompozer and nothing
[04:48] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: how do I do that?
[04:48] <moleboy> maybe your my long-lost brother!
[04:48] <adamhman> okay, I changed the fat32 to ext3, is the "/" correct?  Now it looks like this http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4467/screenshotinstall1mx2.png
[04:48] <Bradford> moleboy, that's impossilbe... they are IMPOSTERS
[04:49] <moleboy> AHHH
[04:49] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: open up the terminal, and type in "gzip /boot/grub/dawn_of_ubuntu.xpm"
[04:49] <moleboy> hey brad, are you my long-lost brother?
[04:49] <usser> adamhman: yep good
[04:49] <Pelo> mon^rch,  for grub the hdd aren'T mounted yet, so you need to give the most basic address  (hd0,0) whre  hdA,B  where A is the hdd and B is the partition,   the numbering starts with O for the first one,  you best bet it to look at the menu item for your ubuntu kernel and copy the (hd0,0) from there
[04:49] <moleboy> GRUEtamer, can you help me please?
[04:49] <moleboy> I can't get my stewpid internet set up
[04:49] <ANON12345> usser: it works, thanks very much. i would like to submit my compiled package, how do i do that?
[04:49] <adamhman> thanks usser?  what you drinking?
[04:49] <moleboy> Can someone please help me setting up my Fiesty internET?
[04:49] <adamhman> what should I do now?
[04:49] <usser> ANON12345: submit to where?
[04:49] <moleboy> *internet
[04:49] <adamhman> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4467/screenshotinstall1mx2.png
[04:49] <Pelo> moleboy,  what kind of connection ?
[04:49] <Skiguy> hey all - where are the settings for "remote desktop" aka vnc server stored?
[04:50] <moleboy> DSL
[04:50] <usser> adamhman: ah beer as usual on fridays
[04:50] <moleboy> wireless
[04:50] <moleboy> 2wire
[04:50] <GrueTamer> moleboy: im trying to find that faq, but someone else can feel free to, im a little busy with everybody asking me questions now :)
[04:50] <ANON12345> usser: ubuntu
[04:50] <usser> ANON12345: they dont care
[04:50] <moleboy> 2wire/wireless/dsl
[04:50] <usser> ANON12345: dont bother
[04:50] <Bradford> Flannel, I have erased BOTH older partitions.... went back and then forward... they are both still there... so i guess if I go manual, I have to go all the way
[04:50] <usser> ANON12345: does it work?
[04:50] <Pelo> !wifi >  moleboy  start with the instructions I just sent you a pm window
[04:50] <zerodai> Skiguy: system > preferences > reomte deskto
[04:50] <ANON12345> usser: oh, ok. thanks for the info. yes, it does
[04:50] <Skiguy> i meant the config file, sorry
[04:50] <[Meta] > How do you install TTF fonts in Ubuntu, if at all possible>
[04:51] <GrueTamer> hmm, ubotu has a thing on wifi, thats cool
[04:51] <Skiguy> to change more complicated things like resolution and the desktop background pic
[04:51] <[Meta] > *?
[04:51] <trance> If I want to install the PostgreSQL server, it's sudo apt-get install postgresql-<version> correct? For example sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.2?
[04:51] <ANON12345> usser: i am on it right now, connected to this server and chatting on this channel with it.
[04:51] <reya276> mon^rch I got you MSG but it says I need to register
[04:51] <Pelo> Bradford, if you remove partitons in gparted, tehy will not apply until you apply in  menu > edit > apply
[04:51] <ohcan> test
[04:51] <[Meta] > !font
[04:51] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:51] <usser> ANON12345: looks good doesnt it, they polished the interface
[04:51] <ohcan> testtest
[04:51] <trance> Does anyone know?
[04:51] <GrueTamer> hi
[04:51] <usser> ANON12345: new icons and stuff
[04:51] <ANON12345> usser: yep
[04:51] <adamhman> what should I do now to install ubuntu?  this is what my hard drive looks like:
[04:51] <adamhman> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4467/screenshotinstall1mx2.png
[04:52] <Pelo> Skiguy,  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think that is what you want
[04:52] <GrueTamer> adamhman: how do you want to install ubuntu?  whole drive or dual boot?
[04:52] <knapper> GrueTamer: I mounted both partitions (Fedora, Ubuntu) and neither of them have the folder /boot/grub.
[04:52] <Pelo> trance,  if you have a gui try looking in synaptic, if not   apt-cache search keyword
[04:52] <Skiguy> doesn't xorg only do the local session?
[04:52] <moleboy> Ummmm whoever was helping me
[04:52] <GrueTamer> knapper: weird
[04:52] <usser> adamhman: just press forward and follow the guidelines
[04:52] <adamhman> whole drive I guess
[04:52] <moleboy> I can't find the drivers for 2wire
[04:52] <textchimp> hi, i just installed ubuntu and i want to get ALSA sound working, but the kernel module for my sound card doesn't seem to be in the version of alsa that came installed by default - what do i need to do?
[04:52] <Bradford> pelo, I'm using Install on the LiveCD.... is gparted on the livecd?
[04:52] <trance> Pelo: ? Did you hear my question?
[04:52] <reya276> ok I can't find NVU either
[04:53] <knapper> GrueTamer, I take that back, they do. heh
[04:53] <telejedi> Meta: sudo cp font-verzeichnis/*.ttf /usr/share/fonts
[04:53] <GrueTamer> :)
[04:53] <Pelo> Bradford,  yes ,   menu > system > admin
[04:53] <moleboy> Can someone please help me get internet onto ubuntu? I have a 2wire/dsl/sbc/wireless
[04:53] <moleboy> ?
[04:53] <GrueTamer> knapper: do you know where you want grub to install to?
[04:53] <Pelo> trance,  I read a bit of it before it scrolled up , I might have missed some part
[04:53] <harry_> what is ReiserFS? is it better than the default filesystem type( ext3 or someting?) ?
[04:53] <knapper> GrueTamer, partition 1 (fedora)
[04:53] <knapper> or sda2
[04:53] <GrueTamer> knapper: alright
[04:53] <usser> Reiser huh
[04:53] <moleboy> Can someone please help me get internet onto my Fiesty Fawn? I have 2wire/dsl/wireless/sbc
[04:53] <zerodai> harry_: depends
[04:54] <Bradford> oic, thx pelo
[04:54] <Pelo> moleboy,  I just sent you some links with instructions in a private window go and read
[04:54] <moleboy> pelo
[04:54] <GrueTamer> lets see...
[04:54] <moleboy> I couldn't find anything for 2wire
[04:54] <GrueTamer> you do want grub on your first hard drive's mbr, right?
[04:54] <harry_> zerodai: depends on what?
[04:54] <knapper> GrueTamer, yes
[04:54] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: splashimage (hd0,2)/boot/grub/dawn_of_ubuntu.xpm.gz ( I am thinking I have it right now)
[04:54] <adamhman> this is what my drive looks like  http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4467/screenshotinstall1mx2.png
[04:54] <Pelo> moleboy, is 2wire you router ? check your router manual
[04:54] <moleboy> yes
[04:54] <moleboy> I have a 2wire router
[04:54] <Dquestions2> hi anyone care to help me out here with a triple boot on  a macbook pro.. i just have  a qustion about this guide
[04:54] <Bradford> Pelo, it's telling me that the linux swaps are locked, that I can't delete them... what should I do now?
[04:54] <Dquestions2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453
[04:54] <GrueTamer> knapper: then do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda2"
[04:54] <textchimp> do i need to do a manual compile of alsa to get my correct sound card module or can i download it as a package somewhere?
[04:54] <GrueTamer> that should work
[04:54] <adamhman> this is the warning I just got when I pressed "forward"   http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4966/screenshotwarningip8.png
[04:54] <craigbass1976> I forgot what a joy windows98 was.  Anyone have a clue as to why I can't connect to an ubuntu samba share, of is this off-topic?
[04:55] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: i believe thats right, go reboot and see :)
[04:55] <moleboy> I don't have a manual, and I doubt it would give me Linux information?
[04:55] <Dquestions2> on the "install ubuntu part.... i get confused...
[04:55] <Pelo> Bradford, what were you tring to do before ?
[04:55] <zerodai> harry_: depends on drive size and what you like. the guy who mantains reiserfs is in jail
[04:55] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: tyvm for the info... ;)
[04:55] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: the worst that can happen is the boot splash doesnt work, but grub still will
[04:55] <zerodai> and its not that well supported
[04:55] <adamhman> this is what my drive looks like  http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4467/screenshotinstall1mx2.png
[04:55] <adamhman>   this is the warning I just got when I pressed "forward"   http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4966/screenshotwarningip8.png
[04:55] <zerodai> but meant to be faster forrrrrrrr some sizes
[04:55] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: if grub cant find the image, remove the (hd0,2)
[04:55] <usser> moleboy: theres no linux windows specific info when it comes to routers nowadays
[04:55] <Dquestions2> The First quote.... i type in each line to my terminal right?
[04:55] <usser> moleboy: not unless u connect them via usb
[04:55] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: ok ty
[04:55] <adamhman> should I ignore it?
[04:55] <doojin> hi
[04:55] <moleboy> well, I just don't get it
[04:55] <GrueTamer> hi doojin
[04:55] <Pelo> adamhman,  please stop spamming the channel with taht pic , be patient
[04:55] <Dquestions2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453
[04:56] <knapper> GrueTamer: "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." is what I got.
[04:56] <knapper> :/
[04:56] <moleboy> can someone find some faq for a 2wire?
[04:56] <doojin> Do any of you know how to get a usplash manager program?
[04:56] <GrueTamer> hmm...
[04:56] <harry_> zerodai: yeah, that's why I was asking. Apparantly his wife's ex-lover has confessed to 8, possibly 9 unrelated murders.
[04:56] <Dquestions2> what does the next set of blue text say?
[04:56] <Bradford> Pelo, delete old Ubuntu's and their swaps to install a new one... i have two Ubuntu's... two swaps and I want them both gone for a new single Ubuntu partition
[04:56] <GrueTamer> gotta hate it when grub doesnt like you
[04:56] <Pelo> moleboy,  have you ever setup a wifi connection before , on any OS ?
[04:56] <Dquestions2> i dont get what i'm supposed to do
[04:56] <doojin> I need a gui interface which handles usplash theme list.
[04:56] <moleboy> I have a wireless network
[04:56] <dj-fu> knapper: I was trying to install Feisty and getting that yesterday
[04:56] <moleboy> 5 computers
[04:56] <doojin> Actually I want
[04:56] <GrueTamer> knapper: your fedora root partition is mounted, right?
[04:56] <moleboy> so yea, if that counts for anything
[04:56] <knapper> dj-fu, how did you fix that?
[04:56] <zerodai> harry_: so i dun really know its a bit like gnome over kde you pick what you prefer
[04:56] <moleboy> ok, I got the good color finally...
[04:56] <knapper> GrueTamer, they both are, yes.
[04:56] <GrueTamer> knapper: i have an idea
[04:56] <Pelo> Bradford,  start by removing the embeded linux-swap,  then apply,  then you will be able to remove the extended partition the swap one was embeded in
[04:57] <moleboy> I have the CD for my SBC wireless crap
[04:57] <GrueTamer> theres this thing, the super grub disk
[04:57] <knapper> hmm
[04:57] <GrueTamer> can prolly boot into fedora
[04:57] <GrueTamer> and you can set up grub there
[04:57] <Pelo> moleboy,  please use the persons name when you are talking to them it makes it easier to follow
[04:57] <knapper> ok, let me get that and try
[04:57] <moleboy> ok
[04:57] <reya276> so can anyone send me a deb for Kompozer?
[04:57] <moleboy> Pelo, I have internet
[04:57] <moleboy> pelo: a wireless connection throughout my household
[04:57] <Pelo> moleboy,  for now you shouldn't need to do anything to your router, execpt maybe enable the wireless bit,
[04:58] <knapper> GrueTamer: As many grub problems I have had in the past, its a wonder I dont already have this...
[04:58] <knapper> O_o
[04:58] <moleboy> pelo, it IS wireless
[04:58] <GrueTamer> knapper: i have problems with grub too
[04:58] <GrueTamer> hold on, ill find that disk
[04:58] <moleboy> pelo: I have always had wireless internet
[04:58] <LtL> moleboy - system > administation > network configure your wireless device there.
[04:58] <Pelo> moleboy,  what you need to do is in your computer,  you need to install the driver for the wireless card in your comp if it isn'T and then set the network,  those instructions are in the links,
[04:58] <adamhman> this is what my drive looks like  http://tinyurl.com/2ug732
[04:58] <adamhman> this is the warning I just got when I pressed "forward" to install  http://tinyurl.com/2w8zs4  any idea what I should do?
[04:58] <moleboy> Pelo: I have the drivers on all my computers!
[04:58] <GrueTamer> knapper: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download
[04:58] <moleboy> thanks LtL
[04:58] <Bradford> pelo, well there are three locked partitions, all for swap... the ext3's are erasable. do you means erase the ext3 and then the swaps for them?
[04:59] <moleboy> just not on my partition for linux
[04:59] <Pelo> moleboy,  I dont, now crap about wireless connection myself I have never had or had to setup one,  try for instructions in this wikie it may help   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:59] <textchimp> i just need to know if i should start compiling alsa myself or try to find a package which includes my sound card kernel module, and if so where?
[05:00] <LtL> moleboy - that is provided the device loaded as Pelo stated. 'dmesg' in a xterm will reveal some info, also 'lsmod'
[05:00] <knapper> GrueTamer: Thanks a lot! :)
[05:00] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: I think it worked... but (lol) i'm guessing that grub can only handle a image witha a very low colour depth? (my background is just a bunch of coloured pixels) :/
[05:00] <Pelo> Bradford, linux-swap partitions are nested inside extended partitions,  you need to delete the swap before you remove the extended one
[05:00] <GrueTamer> knapper: youre very much welcome
[05:00] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: yeah, thats true
[05:00] <GrueTamer> hold on, there was a good splash linked earlier
[05:00] <Pelo> LtL,  tk, can you take over with moleboy  ?
[05:00] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: do tell :)
[05:00] <Bradford> moleboy, I am having problems with WiFi myself, i heard that you can use Windows XP wifi drivers and that works... i have yet to try it myself, obviously
[05:00] <LtL> Pelo - I can try
[05:00] <Pelo> Bradford,  please upload a screanshot of your gparted window
[05:00] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Grub+simply+splash?content=29011
[05:01] <moleboy> LtL: I went to system > administration > network
[05:01] <moleboy> there was nothing there pertaining to my wireless network
[05:01] <LtL> moleboy - isyour wifi card listed?
[05:01] <moleboy> ltl: all that it had was DHCP wired connection
[05:01] <moleboy> and modem
[05:01] <doojin> Does anybody know how to find startupmanager package for ubuntu/
[05:01] <moleboy> so no, I guess it wasn't listed
[05:01] <LtL> moleboy - ok, it did not load. pcmcia card?
[05:02] <moleboy> 2wire card
[05:02] <peepsalot> doojin, ther is something called BUM, boot up manager
[05:02] <mon^rch> GrueTamer: tnx for the link ;)
[05:02] <GrueTamer> mon^rch: youre welcome
[05:02] <Pelo> doojin,  if you want to have prog load at startup put them in  menu > system > prefs > sesson
[05:02] <sn0> nn
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> !nvu | reya276
[05:02] <ubotu> reya276: nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[05:02] <moleboy> ltl: well it's not exactly a card, but it's not the wireless router
[05:02] <moleboy> it's just like a thing standing up, that has a cord that goes into my USB port
[05:03] <moleboy> but connects wirelessly
[05:03] <doojin> peepsalot : how did you know that?
[05:03] <err0r> #join/ubuntu.fr
[05:03] <doojin> peepsalot : it doesn't change usplash theme anyway
[05:03] <Pelo> err0r,   /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:03] <peepsalot> doojin, uh, i read about it on the forums a long tmie ago
[05:03] <LtL> moleboy - type 'lsusb -vvv' in an xterm
[05:04] <moleboy> uhhhh....
[05:04] <moleboy> is that wv?
[05:04] <moleboy> oh vw
[05:04] <err0r> lol okey
[05:04] <moleboy> xterm?
[05:04] <moleboy> a terminal?
[05:04] <LtL> moleboy - correct
[05:04] <moleboy> ok thanks
[05:04] <doojin> peepsalot : do you know a usplash theme manager? bum is not one
[05:04] <IgorSobreira> anybody could help me? my sound card is not configured in my 7.04..ATI !
[05:05] <LtL> moleboy - you need to identify the chipset and or why the system didn't see or load it. then google
[05:05] <moleboy> ltl
[05:05] <peepsalot> doojin, i don't know, you didn't ask for a usplash manager originally though
[05:05] <Pelo> IgorSobreira, first try  menu > system > prefs> restricted driver ( might be in admin)
[05:05] <moleboy> it's 2wire
[05:05] <moleboy> how do I identify it?
[05:05] <moleboy> I'm really new to linux, and I'm dying here
[05:05] <Pelo> Bradford, how's it going ?
[05:05] <reya276> is it better than Screem?
[05:06] <rhpot1991> anyone here run mythtv?
[05:06] <GrueTamer> gotta go, be back tomorrow
[05:06] <peepsalot> rhpot1991, i'm not, but plan to in the near future
[05:06] <LtL> moleboy - does lsusb -v show anything
[05:06] <moleboy> it was vw
[05:06] <moleboy> but yea
[05:06] <budluva> !seen daklicker
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen daklicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <moleboy> a bunch of stuff pops out
[05:06] <rhpot1991> I'm having a bit of a problem since the fiesty upgrade looking for someone who has a good working setup to talk with
[05:06] <peepsalot> rhpot1991, once I figure out how to get my RAID 5 setup right
[05:06] <IgorSobreira> Pelo, i have two drivers there:  "ATI accelerated  graphics card" and Atheros Hardware Access Layer".....well...just video and wifi...both in use...
[05:07] <IgorSobreira> but no sounds
[05:07] <moleboy> hang on, do you want me to tell you what it says LTL?
[05:07] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to find the IP Address of all the printers on the network?
[05:07] <Pelo> !sound > IgorSobreira   check your pm window
[05:07] <peepsalot> anyone know a good LiveCD for configuring a RAID array?
[05:07] <IgorSobreira> Pelo, sorry....pw window??
[05:08] <LtL> moleboy - i've never used usb for WAN access. So all i can say is google it or try ubuntuguide
[05:08] <Pelo> IgorSobreira,  I just sent you some instructions in a private message window from ubotu
[05:08] <moleboy> what is WAN?
[05:08] <peepsalot> world area network
[05:08] <moDumass> hey all, made changes to nvidia x server settings now i only have the top left corner (quarter) of my display, the rest just doesnt get drawn
[05:09] <peepsalot> as opposed to LAN : local...
[05:09] <moleboy> all I mean is the wireless connector is plugged into the USB port
[05:09] <moDumass> any ideas how to fix this, ps, cant use console, it is just a white cube
[05:09] <moDumass> square
[05:09] <moDumass> please help
[05:09] <moleboy> I don't mean it's completely like based off of the usb port
[05:09] <Pelo> moDumass, undo the change
[05:09] <LtL> moleboy - the internet wide area net. try googling
[05:09] <moleboy> also, no matter what I push, the same lists of things come up in the terminal
[05:09] <nbjayme> hello is there a tool that creates VCD but uses the ogg Format instead of the proprietary format?
[05:09] <moleboy> I tried googlin
[05:09] <Pelo> moDumass,   sudo dkpg-reconfigure xorg.conf
[05:09] <moleboy> that's why I came here
[05:09] <IgorSobreira> Pelo, well...i've already seen them man....but nothing works here....i 've already asked here before....somebody told me something about "permissions"...do you know how can i configure it?
[05:09] <Pelo> moDumass,   sudo dkpg-reconfigure xorg-conf
[05:09] <usser> nbjayme: !ffmpeg
[05:09] <moleboy> IS there anyone else that knows?
[05:10] <usser> !ffmpeg
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <moleboy> *Is
[05:10] <peepsalot> moleboy, knows what?
[05:10] <moleboy> yes?
[05:10] <Pelo> IgorSobreira,  not realy I can only suggest   menu > system > admin > users , select user,  properties  theck the available options
[05:10] <usser> nbjayme: ffmpeg can do pretty much everything too bad it is console based
[05:10] <moleboy> trying to find a dark but noticeable color sorry
[05:10] <moDumass> Pelo, i cant use console
[05:10] <moleboy> there
[05:10] <moleboy> peepsalot
[05:10] <moleboy> I need to get my internet set up
[05:10] <Pelo> moDumass,   boot in recovery mode
[05:10] <moleboy> with a 2wire/dsl/wireless
[05:10] <moleboy> I can't get it set up
[05:11] <moleboy> peepsalot, you there?
[05:11] <peepsalot> hmm, i don't know what a 2wire is, and never used dsl
[05:11] <nbjayme> usser: yes. the thing is that most multimedia apps support those proprietary format in VCD. :(
[05:11] <Bradford> Pelo, It's telling me to unmount any partition using a number higher than /dev/sda8 ... the only other higher is 9, and that's a locked one.... so now what?
[05:11] <Pelo> moleboy, check the forum for usb wireless or usb wifi
[05:11] <az-debian>  ?????can anyone tell me how to configure gnome-mount to load partitions in read-write mode ? ??
[05:11] <moleboy> where is teh forum?
[05:11] <peepsalot> i have setup a USB gigabit ethernet adapter before though, using ndiswrapper
[05:11] <moleboy> ok
[05:12] <Bradford> Pelo, /dev/sda9 is active swap
[05:12] <nbjayme> say I create a ogg format VCD then I just pop it in the CD and totem should recognize it and play. I hope there's an existing spec on this.
[05:12] <Bradford> pelo, how do I unmount it? and why is it active?
[05:12] <Pelo> Bradford,  aren't you in the live cd ?
[05:12] <doojin> I give up startup manager
[05:12] <Bradford> pelo, yes, that's why I'm like wtf
[05:12] <Pelo> Bradford, restart the live cd and donT' start anything else but gparted
[05:13] <nbjayme> playing VCD is still a hit and miss affair and I'm tired of downloading restricted libraries/plugins. :)
[05:13] <moleboy> where is the forums?
[05:13] <codecaine> anybody know a ftp client that let me mv files fromt eh server?
[05:13] <codecaine> the server
[05:13] <Pelo> az-debian,  you mean in fstab ?
[05:13] <IgorSobreira> Pelo, it seems everything is ok in my users and groups...do i need to restart anything to make changes work?....login again?
[05:13] <crdlb> nautilus is a ftp client :)
[05:13] <crdlb> that can do that
[05:13] <Pelo> IgorSobreira, restarting X would not be overkill I gues
[05:14] <az-debian> do i have to have anything in fstab. gnome-mount can work without it.
[05:14] <moDumass> Pelo, i have managed to turn metastacity on
[05:14] <liquiddoom> !vncoverssh
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncoverssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <moleboy> where are the forums pelo?
[05:14] <liquiddoom> !vnc
[05:14] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:15] <Pelo> az-debian,  i was just wondering if fstab is what you meant, I donT know gnome-mount
[05:15] <Pelo> moleboy, www.ubuntuforums.com
[05:15] <Pelo> moDumass,   sudo dkpg-reconfigure xorg-conf
[05:15] <az-debian> no i meant gnome-mount
[05:16] <err0r> join#ubuntu.fr
[05:16] <Pelo> az-debian,  man gnome-mount you'll have all the switches,  or man mount as well
[05:16] <Pelo> err0r, can we help you ?
[05:16] <moDumass> pelo, im going to try and fix it rather than defaulting it
[05:16] <err0r> yes please
[05:16] <Pelo> err0r, /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:16] <err0r> okey tankyou
[05:17] <liquiddoom> !vlc
[05:17] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:17] <Pelo> moDumass, best of luck
[05:17] <Pelo> liquiddoom,  there is a #vlc channel if you need specific help
[05:17] <zilly66> what's everyone's favorite CD ripper/encoder?
[05:17] <liquiddoom> Pelo: Nah, I'm just working out streaming.
[05:18] <moDumass> Pelo, thanks man
[05:18] <Pelo> zilly66,  we donT rip cds it 's illigal we donT want to get into trouble with the RIAA
[05:18] <iShock> Hello. I am requiring help killing FrostWire, how would I do it?
[05:18] <zilly66> pelo, haha
[05:18] <moDumass> il probably end up doing what you said anyway
[05:18] <mneptok> Pelo: ripping CDs is legal.
[05:18] <Pelo> iShock,   check in the system monitor and kill java
[05:18] <zilly66> pelo, i just grabbed some CDs from the library, the librarian said i can rip em
[05:18] <Pelo> mneptok, thanks for killing my little joke
[05:18] <mneptok> zilly66: i use jRipper
[05:19] <iShock> Uh, no, I'm not killing Java, I only need to kill Frostwire, not about 17 different java games
[05:19] <mneptok> Pelo: i'm *great* at parties :/
[05:19] <LtL> moleboy - a system admin just told me he knew of two ppl that tried 2wire/usb. Avoid it, they went 4 wire.
[05:19] <zilly66> mneptol, what features does it have?
[05:19] <nbjayme> Please let me know of a VCD creation utility that uses ogg format.  The idea is to pop in the ogg format VCD and have totem autoplay.
[05:19] <Pelo> iShock,   frostwire is a sh process,  or try  sudo killall frostwire
[05:19] <mneptok> zilly66: it works?
[05:20] <Miles_Prower> In Ubuntu-PPC 6.10, on an Ibook G4, the mouse takes like 6 goes-across to reach the width of the screen. How can I make it travel further with the same motion?>
[05:20] <mneptok> iShock: you might want to try GTK-Gnutella
[05:20] <mario_> hi
[05:20] <codecaine> cat get natitilus to show the files on the ftp server
[05:20] <iShock> mneptok, I tried, I failed, I use Frostwire.
[05:20] <iShock> frostwire: no process killed
[05:20] <Bradford> pelo, nothing's changed. I rebooted, alt+f2, sudo gparted and.... those same pertitions are locked...
[05:20] <mneptok> iShock: via con dios. IME, Frostwire has become increasingly poorly built
[05:20] <liquiddoom> Miles_Prower: Preferences > Mouse
[05:20] <Pelo> Miles_Prower,  menu > system > prefs > mouse  I believe you can set the mouse motion in there
[05:20] <mario_> can somebody please give me some help about 3d games?????
[05:21] <biovore> what game?
[05:21] <liquiddoom> mario_: Running them?
[05:21] <zilly66> mneptol, is cdda2wav better than paranoia?
[05:21] <mario_> the thing is
[05:21] <Pelo> Bradford, pick one of the nested linux swap partitons ,  right click remove ( just the one),  menu > edit > apply
[05:21] <mario_> i install them but the screen goes black when I try to play
[05:21] <mneptok> zilly66: why would you want .wav files?
[05:21] <LtL> iShock - ps aux | grep frostwire  then kill -9 PID the frostwire id process
[05:21] <Miles_Prower> liquiddoom: Pelo, both those sections are at max 'high/fast' with no change at all to mouse speed.
[05:21] <Miles_Prower> liquiddoom, pelo: acceleration and sensitivity both do not affect it much
[05:21] <iShock> LtL, huh?
[05:22] <zilly66> mneptok, to turn them into mp3/ogg, of course
[05:22] <LtL> iShock - open a terminal window
[05:22] <Pelo> Miles_Prower, that was my only suggestion
[05:22] <mneptok> zilly66: jRipper goes ntraight from CD to mp3/ogg
[05:22] <iShock> LtL, I just ran ps aux | grep frostwire
[05:22] <mneptok> *straight
[05:22] <Pelo> Miles_Prower,  you might also try chainging the mouse vailues in xorg.conf
[05:22] <Miles_Prower> k
[05:22] <LtL> iShock - any output. are you trying to stop it?
[05:23] <zilly66> mneptok, really? how?
[05:23] <Pelo> Bradford ??
[05:23] <iShock> I'm trying to close Frostwire, and I got some odd stuff I can't make heads or tails out of, want it pastebinned?
[05:23] <mneptok> zilly66: *magic*
[05:23] <mneptok> zilly66: LAME + oggenc
[05:23] <zilly66> mneptok, doesn't it have to start with the raw source?
[05:23] <Bradford> Pelo, I right click on the biggest EXT3 partition (with no lock over it), click delete and I get this "Unable to delete /dev/sda6! Please unmount any partitions having a number higher than 6"
[05:24] <mneptok> zilly66: right. which is on CD.
[05:24] <Pelo> Bradford,  right click ,  unmount
[05:24] <mneptok> zilly66: you can extract first, if you like that
[05:24] <zack> helllo
[05:24] <Pelo> Bradford,  do that for all the partitons listed
[05:24] <mario_> hi
[05:24] <zack> where can i find the ubuntu 7.10 ISO?
[05:24] <zilly66> doesn't every program extract first?
[05:24] <zack> to download
[05:24] <LtL> iShock - the frostwire entry has a process id, just type kill pid  in a xterm. it should die. killall frostwire should work too but that program is buggy.
[05:24] <Pelo> !torrents | zack
[05:24] <ubotu> zack: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[05:25] <peepsalot> anyone know what kernel modules are necessary to detect a USB cd drive?
[05:25] <iShock> LtL, I got three different things showing up
[05:25] <zack> is feisty the one that comes with desktop effects correct?
[05:25] <LtL> iShock - type 'top' in a terminal. see if its there, read the idea, type 'q' then kill it
[05:25] <peepsalot> or even what device it would be under?
[05:25] <DShepherd> 7.10???
[05:25] <Bradford> Pelo, Unmount isn't an option for any of the partitions, but where unmount is on the menu, for the locked Swaps there's an option to "swapoff" idk what that means
[05:25] <Pelo> zack, yes
[05:25] <LtL> iShock - logout/login
[05:25] <mario_> 7.10 doesn't even exist
[05:26] <mario_> Help, please
[05:26] <mario_> !
[05:26] <peepsalot> !!
[05:26] <moDumass> hey all, ok, so now i have it all back, except that I no longer have 1440x900 res
[05:26] <zack> thanks, I lost my installed disk, and a friend needed them could not remember the name, but i knoew it was 7.10 or something
[05:26] <moDumass> cant remember how or where to add it to xorg.conf, any ideas?
[05:26] <Pelo> Bradford,  doyou have a bunch of drives on your desktop ?  unmont them from there,  and yes please swapoff all the swaps
[05:26] <Pelo> zack,   it's 7.04   not .10
[05:26] <iShock> 7.10 is real, codenamed....WHat the hell was it?!
[05:26] <zack> =) okay.
[05:26] <zack> thanks
[05:27] <Pelo> moDumass, check inside you'll see it , it is qute clear where you add extra rez
[05:27] <Pelo> iShock, gusty gibons or something
[05:27] <iShock> Gusty Gibbon, thjats it :O
[05:27] <mario_>                                             my games don't work
[05:27] <peepsalot> Gutsy Gibbon
[05:27] <mneptok> "Gutsy"
[05:28] <Pelo> mario_,  which game ?
[05:28] <moDumass> yeh, i did, but once there, no change, and i restarted x and everything
[05:28] <mario_> that one tremulous
[05:28] <mario_> but i also tried with a few more
[05:28] <peepsalot> how can i get an external USB CD drvie to work
[05:28] <Pelo> mario_,  are those games from the repos ?
[05:28] <peepsalot> for the love of god
[05:29] <mario_> i can't tell you with absolute certainty
[05:29] <sid32> hey.. I need some help..
[05:29] <Pelo> peepsalot,  just pluggin it in should automount it , or maybe you need to put a cd in for it to mount
[05:29] <sid32> I just lost all my applications list
[05:29] <sid32> its just empty
[05:29] <moDumass> Pelo, how do i remove twinview though?
[05:29] <Pelo> mario_,  how did you add it ?
[05:29] <mario_> i downloaded them from applications add/remove
[05:29] <peepsalot> Pelo, i need to run a LiveCD from it
[05:29] <mario_> is that wrong or what?
[05:29] <rong_> Hey folks
[05:30] <peepsalot> Pelo, it boots the liveCD, but eventually it wants to configure the CD Drive
[05:30] <rong_> Has anyone able to install pidgin yet here?
[05:30] <Pelo> sid32,   menu > system > pref > main menu , at the bottom restor or reset
[05:30] <mneptok> rong_: don't ;)
[05:30] <peepsalot> Pelo, I don't understand why, it works enough to get it to that point
[05:30] <Pelo> peepsalot,  ah ,  I donT' know about that ,  try checking in the forum
[05:30] <moDumass> Pelo also would removing Option Twinveiw 1 destroy everything?
[05:30] <mario_> but i also tried  "trigger" and "scorched 3d"
[05:30] <sid32> pelo: can't get to menu
[05:30] <mneptok> rong_: let go of the "OMG A NEW NUMBER I MUST HAVE IT" virus
[05:30] <sid32> only thing in systems is help and quit
[05:31] <Pelo> moDumass,  err,   check in the forum I saw that a while ago but I realy had no use for it so I don' tremember
[05:31] <ferdy> hii
[05:31] <Pelo> moDumass,  it wonT' destro everything
 oh really?
[05:31] <Pelo> sid32, restart x    ctrl  alt  backspace
[05:31] <zack> !torrents
[05:31] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[05:31] <bullgard4> How does Ubuntu calculate the 'last full capacity=3937 mAh' of my battery?
[05:32] <zack> whats the difference between the DVD and the Iso's?
[05:32] <zack> what more do you get?
[05:32] <Pelo> sid32,   open a terminal  and type alacarte  that's the menu editor
[05:32] <mario_> pelo, can you help me
[05:32] <sid32> tried that.. doesnt load anything
[05:32] <moDumass> awesome
[05:32] <n2diy> bullgard4:  that is what your battery is reporting to the system.
[05:33] <sid32> also, lost my firefox bookmarks
[05:33] <Pelo> zack, they are all iso , ithey are disk images,  one is for a dvd with lots of package to save bandwidth during install , the other is a cd
[05:33] <Bradford> Pelo, Ok, I got it, thank you! I might be back :(
[05:33] <Pelo> mario_, I'm sorry you got lost in the frey , gimfe me a minute
[05:33] <bullgard4> n2diy: How can the battery know this value?
[05:33] <mario_> pelo, you just tell me when
[05:34] <Pelo> mario_,  I just had to read back,
[05:34] <reptyl_> newb here. i just downloaded thunderbird-2.0.0.0.tar.gz. how do i instal it? thanks
[05:34] <n2diy> bullgard4:  It doesn't, your system reads the battery voltage and type,  and guestemates it.
[05:34] <Pelo> mario_,  if you hadded them from the add/remove menu they should work ,  unless you have video driver issues which might explain it,   did the other games work for you ,  the ones that are part fot eh default isnatll ?
[05:35] <Pelo> reptyl_, just use the one synaptic it will be less trouble
[05:35] <Pelo> reptyl_,  or use the info here   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[05:35] <bullgard4> n2diy: I doubt your answer. The voltage is irrelevant.
[05:35] <mario_> the ones who come with the regular installation work perfectly, but the ones I add, in 3d, won't work
[05:36] <Pelo> mario_,  does your video card support 3d accelereation ?
[05:36] <mario_> pelo, i think i have my drivers updated but if there's a way to know it, tell me
[05:36] <ajmorris_> can this start menu be gotten for normal gnome menus? : http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/bianca-2.2/08.png
[05:36] <n2diy> bullgard4:  Really? How long can you run your laptop on a battery with zero voltage?
[05:36] <Pelo> mario_,  what's your video card ?
[05:36] <reptyl_> Pelo, the one in synaptic is only version 1.5 ...
[05:36] <kazol> Is it worth setting up RAID-1 on a workstation with 2x80GB on the same EIDE channel or will it become a bottleneck?
[05:36] <mario_> pelo, I think so, because I use beryl, although I quit that when I'm gonna play
[05:36] <Miles_Prower> ubuntu-ppc 6.10, @ boot: prompt.. how do i enter single-user mode?
[05:36] <mario_> pelo, nvidia
[05:37] <Motoko-chan> Hello. I'm trying to get WPA set up on 6.10, on an ipw2200 card, but am getting errors.
[05:37] <mario_> pelo, do you need the model?
[05:37] <Motoko-chan> Mostly "Failed to set encryption"
[05:37] <Pelo> mario_,   look in menu > system > admin ( or prefs)  click the restricted driver menu options,  see if that does anything
[05:37] <[Meta] > Hey, I have a Sansa c250, can anyone tell me how I can retrieve the music from it?
[05:37] <bullgard4> n2diy: Not very long. It is still irrelevant for determining the last full capacity.
[05:37] <kazol> Is it worth setting up RAID on a workstation?
[05:37] <DrChaos> hello. I was hoping someone could point me to some documentation on how to vpn into a watchguard firebox iii 1000  with kvpnc or openswan or suggestions on how else I might be able to connect
[05:38] <Pelo> reptyl_,  I'm a bit swampt right now , if you want to give compiling a shot yourself instructions are in this link http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[05:38] <HiddenHax> hey does anyone know a gui tool that can be used to move files with admin abilities?
[05:38] <Motoko-chan> DrChaos, if you use PPTP VPN, you can use several clients for that.
[05:38] <kazol> How come I cannot measure the temp. of my HDs in gdesklets?
[05:38] <Motoko-chan> IPSec VPNs on the Firebox are... interesting.
[05:38] <mario_> pelo, I see my nvidia driver, is that what I should see?
[05:38] <kazol> The HDs definetely have temperature sensors, and I tried installing lmsensors.
[05:39] <Motoko-chan> kazol, it depends on what you want out of the workstation.
[05:39] <n2diy> bullgard4:  Not very long!? Ok. This is the first time you mentioned "last full capacity."
[05:39] <Pelo> ajmorris_,  yoiu can'T get that menu in ubuntu  it's an opensuse thing
[05:39] <cables> help! I just opened my trash, and somehow all the items in /var/run are showing up in trash:
[05:39] <DrChaos> but I need to create an ipsec connection not pptp...
[05:39] <Pelo> mario_,  install it
[05:39] <ajmorris_> Pelo, kk, tks
[05:39] <Pelo> cableroy,  put them back then
[05:39] <Pelo> ajmorris_, hold on
[05:39] <mario_> pelo, how? double click? do I have to search it in the internet?
[05:39] <Motoko-chan> DrChaos, if you use the firebox tools to create the keys, any decent IPSec client _should_ work.
[05:39] <cables> Pelo, they're not actually in ~/.Trash
[05:40] <bullgard4> n2diy: I mentioned 'last full capacity' at 05:31h.
[05:40] <Pelo> mario_,  dbl click
[05:40] <cables> Pelo, they're in /var/run, but Nautilus shows them as being in the trash
[05:40] <DrChaos> Motoko-chan, can you send me to some documentation on how to configure a connection
[05:40] <kazol> Motoko-chan: Would it become a bottleneck if I transcoded\recorded DVDs on 2x80GB EIDE (on the same channel)?
[05:40] <HiddenHax> hey does anyone know a gui tool that can be used to move files with admin abilities?
[05:40] <Pelo> cables,  I give up,  you'll have to figure it out
[05:40] <Motoko-chan> DrChaos, I'm actually trying to get some help right now too, maybe I'll look into it later.
[05:40] <cables> HiddenHax, hit alt-f2 and type gksudo nautilus
[05:40] <mario_> pelo, it says, in use
[05:40] <DrChaos> everything I've foudn assumes a higher level of knowledge that I seem to posses
[05:40] <HiddenHax> cables thanks
[05:40] <DrChaos> sp*
[05:41] <DrChaos> Motoko-chan, what are you seekign help on
[05:41] <mario_> pelo, i fucked things up
[05:41] <Motoko-chan> kazol, might be, although the encoding will be the bottleneck most of the time
[05:41] <DrChaos> ?
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | mario_
[05:41] <Pelo> mario_, it is installed then
[05:41] <Motoko-chan> Wifi stuff.
[05:41] <ubotu> mario_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:41] <Pelo> mario_, how ?
[05:41] <n2diy> bullgard4:  0513 hours, it is 2338 hours now, you think we've been reading this all that time?
[05:41] <Motoko-chan> Getting an intel 2200 working over WPA
[05:41] <EADG> HiddenHax: Krusader i think.
[05:41] <DrChaos> Motoko-chan, I think you maybe SOL. one of my employees went through hell trying to get that to work and gave up...
[05:41] <[Meta] > HELP.
[05:41] <[Meta] > :(
[05:41] <mario_> pelo, i uninstalled the driver by accident now I have to restart to use it (excuse me)
[05:42] <kazol> Motoko-chan: So do you think it will take considerably longer since it is on the same channel (I beleive they cannot multitask)?
[05:42] <Motoko-chan> Draconicus, heh
[05:42] <Pelo> ajmorris_, look in this link go back several days,  ithink I have seen that menu in there,  when you find it look for the name of the app in synaptic and see if you can install it ,if not you might have to download it    http://debaday.debian.net/
[05:42] <mario_> pelo, if my driver was installed, what do you think could be the possible problem?
[05:42] <Motoko-chan> kazol, if you are going between the drives, perhaps/
[05:42] <Motoko-chan> .
[05:42] <Pelo> mario_,  once you've restarted go back and install it again
[05:42] <Pelo> mario_,  maybe you nee xgl support , we can deal with taht when you come back
[05:43] <kazol> Motoko-chan: ok, thx.
[05:43] <mario_> pelo, i'll be back
[05:43] <sid32> any ideas on lost applicaitons menus?
[05:43] <sid32> alacates doesnt load
[05:44] <[Meta] > Hey, I have a Sansa c250, can anyone tell me how I can retrieve the music from it?
[05:44] <IowaDave> Pelo: think you got 'em all. you're amazing:)
[05:44] <Pelo> sid32,  right click the pannel ,  add to pannel  add another menu or ther is a single button one you can use until you figure it out from the forum
[05:44] <Pelo> IowaDave,  lol
[05:45] <Pelo> sid32,  how the hell did you clear all your menues anyway ?
[05:45] <sid32> I crashed when I was laod menu editor
[05:45] <sid32> single button doesnt work either
[05:45] <sid32> posted in forms
[05:45] <Pelo> ah
[05:45] <sid32> not much back yet
[05:45] <cables> Does anyone know why all items from /var/run are showing up in my trash?
[05:45] <Pelo> sid32,  can you get in the /home folder ?
[05:45] <jarrett> Does anyone know how to get my back and forward buttons working on my mx510? I had it working in beta but reinstalled and forgot what i did.
[05:46] <cables> They're not actually in any trash folder, they're just showing up when I go to the Trash
[05:46] <cables> !mouse | jarrett
[05:46] <ubotu> jarrett: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:46] <jarrett> cables: wow that was fast, thanks
[05:47] <Pelo> sigh,
[05:47] <IowaDave> cables: what's in the trash folder? the actual files, or links to them?
[05:48] <cables> IowaDave, nothing's in the trash folder. They're showing up in Nautilus' "virtual" trash folder (type trash: in the nautilus location bar)
[05:48] <[Meta] > Fuck.
[05:48] <DBO> [Meta] , watch the swearing
[05:48] <IowaDave> cables: ok, that's a new one to me. just wanted to clear it up here on the channel.
[05:49] <cables> IowaDave, ok
[05:49] <USSJoin> I have an external ext3 hard drive. How do I make it automount so that a user (say, me) can have access?
[05:49] <DBO> cables, IowaDave, no they are actually in ~/.Trash
[05:49] <[Meta] > Yeah, well maybe I wouldn't be swearing if someone could actually help me
[05:49] <Pelo> cables,  check in /root/.Trash
[05:49] <cables> DBO, they're NOT in ~/.Trash, that's what I just said.
[05:49] <cables> Pelo, not there either
[05:49] <USSJoin> USSJoin: I've read the tutorials online, but they seem to be getting bypassed by Ubuntu's builtin mounting of USB drives.
[05:49] <Parmenion> lol .. whats the problem ?
[05:49] <cables> When I hover over them in Nautilus's trash thingy, it says Location: /var/run
[05:49] <USSJoin> And I like the builtin mounting.
[05:49] <Pelo> [Meta] , what's your problem ?
[05:49] <[Meta] > I have a Sansa c250, right?
[05:50] <Parmenion> ok ...
[05:50] <DBO> cables, alright technically yes its a combination of several folders, but most anything you delete will be in ~/.Trash
[05:50] <[Meta] > And it appears to have "lost" all of the music on it.
[05:50] <ayande_> Does anyone know what I should do in order to make phpmail work?
[05:50] <Pelo> cables,  have you looked  in the forum for answers
[05:50] <[Meta] > But on Windows, I can find all the music.
[05:50] <Parmenion> ok...
[05:50] <Talaman> hmm
[05:50] <cables> Pelo, I don't know what to search for
[05:50] <Parmenion> werid ... what filesystem?
[05:51] <[Meta] > How do I find out, Parmenion?
[05:51] <cables> DBO, yes, I realize that. That's why I specified that there was NOT any trash in any .Trash folder
[05:51] <Pelo> [Meta] , do i look like i kknow the model numbers of all the hardware in existance ??? what is a Sansa C250
[05:51] <[Meta] > It's an MP3 player.
[05:51] <IowaDave> cables: you can start a new thread in the forums. state your problem. i've gotten good help that way.
[05:51] <Talaman72> how do i change video drivers in from the gui ?
[05:51] <DBO> cables, my mistake, I see where the confusion is now, moooooving on =)
[05:51] <Parmenion> meta ... is it even visible ?
[05:51] <cables> DBO, sorry for being rude, I'm a bit annoyed :(
[05:51] <[Meta] > Sandisk Sansa c250.
[05:51] <[Meta] > Yes it is.
[05:52] <[Meta] > But it seems to have I dunno... encoded all my files into .dat files?
[05:52] <[Meta] > Even though on Windows I can view all my music.
[05:52] <Pelo> Taladan, what drivers do you need ?
[05:52] <Parmenion> ok ... now does it show up as an MTP player on windows ?
[05:52] <Parmenion> if it does, use gnomad2
[05:52] <[Meta] > Yes, Parmenion
[05:52] <[Meta] > gnomad. :/
[05:52] <Parmenion> it works for my creative zen
[05:52] <Parmenion> gnomad2
[05:52] <Parmenion> yeah
[05:52] <Parmenion> plug the thing in
[05:52] <Parmenion> then run gnomad
[05:52] <[Meta] > Mmkay..
[05:52] <[Meta] > I have to install gnomad first
[05:53] <Parmenion> yep
[05:53] <DrChaos> can anyone point me to some documentation on creating a vpn connection to a watchguard? firebox?
[05:53] <Pelo> Talaman72, what drivers do you need ?
[05:53] <[Meta] > But Parmenion...
[05:53] <[Meta] > I don't have a Creative MP3 player.
[05:53] <Parmenion> yeah ?
[05:54] <Parmenion> it works for most mtp players
[05:54] <Talaman72> looking for the video drivers
[05:54] <UnluckyMike> is there an easier way to change default mime types than editing defaults.list?
[05:54] <[Meta] > MTP stands for...?
[05:54] <Parmenion> it uses libmtp5 or something to that extent
[05:54] <Parmenion> no idea [Meta] 
[05:54] <[Meta] > Mmkay.
[05:54] <Pelo> Talaman72,  try  meny > system > admin ( or prfs)  restricted drivers
[05:54] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:54] <Parmenion> media transport player afaik
[05:55] <Parmenion> night Pelo
[05:55] <IowaDave> night Pelo
[05:55] <Tom47> there is a killall command that refreshes the desktop ... anyone know it?
[05:56] <DrChaos> why does firefox/swiftfox constantly lock up and appear to flip between a  disabled window and an active window.
[05:56] <DrChaos> ?
[05:56] <UnluckyMike> tom47: killall gnome-panel  and killall nautilus
[05:56] <Talaman72> not finding that parmenion
[05:56] <drw> excuse me for the intrusion, but is there a windows emulator installed (wine, etc) or do i need to apt-get it (and can i even do that with the live cd). i have the dvd vers and i thought it was included
[05:56] <Tom47> UnluckyMike: ty
[05:56] <[Meta] > "No jukeboxes found on USB bus"
[05:57] <Parmenion> Talaman72: ?
[05:57] <UnluckyMike> no prob
[05:57] <Parmenion> [Meta] : :\
 Talaman72,  try  meny > system > admin ( or prfs)  restricted drivers  < no such place
[05:57] <[Meta] > Can you install programs in wine?
[05:57] <UnluckyMike> meta: try doing a google search for "sync sansa linux" or something of that sort
[05:57] <drw> nono, i mean, does ubuntu 7.04 come with wine
[05:57] <Parmenion> [Meta] : yeah ... its just a skin if you would have it
[05:57] <cycom> I've got a bluetooth device that won't reconnect properly after suspend to ram.  My remote (which shows up as input: Interlink Keyboard as /class/input/input40) works before suspend, with all the buttons (play/pause, ff, rw, volume, etc.) working.  When I suspend and resume, suddenly only the arrow buttons, pgup/pgdown, ok, and backspace work.
[05:58] <drw> i wat to run a windows app
[05:58] <cycom> Any idea why some of the buttons suddenly don't work?
[05:58] <UnluckyMike> drw: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:58] <drw> and itll be fine with the livecd?
[05:58] <UnluckyMike> oh neverminf
[05:58] <darwin> How can I extract the audio file from an flv video?
[05:58] <cycom> UnluckyMike: no installation candidate.
[05:58] <UnluckyMike> nevermind*
[05:58] <Miles_Prower> Ubuntu 6.10: Generic method to make the mouse travel at 2x the distance, better, a flexible multiplier?
[05:59] <drw> sooo? i cant apt-get it?
[05:59] <UnluckyMike> drw: i don't have much live-cd experience, i would think it would be a bad idea with a livecd
[05:59] <[Meta] > :(
[05:59] <[Meta] > This isn't helping, UnluckyMike
[05:59] <drw> id have thought the dvd version of ubuntu would have had it
[06:00] <drw> well, i installed xchat via the livecd
[06:00] <thelostpatrol> xchat is included by default isn't it?
[06:00] <drw> thught it was already on the dvd, just not installed
[06:00] <DBO> yes
[06:00] <thelostpatrol> mine was there right away
[06:00] <Talaman72> brb
[06:00] <UnluckyMike> drw: give it a whirl, the worst that could happen isit crashes and you just have to reboot
[06:00] <Motoko-chan> yay. Got it working.
[06:00] <UnluckyMike> meta: what kind of player is it?
[06:00] <drw> kk ty for the help
[06:00] <Motoko-chan> Had to broadcast ssid and use wext instead of ipw
[06:01] <makuseru> how can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?
[06:01] <mario_> pelo, I'm back
[06:01] <thelostpatrol> anyone want to offer the name of a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[06:01] <[Meta] > It's a Sandisk Sansa c250, UnluckyMike
[06:01] <thelostpatrol> something with some EQ settings in it
[06:01] <IowaDave> mario_: pelo went home for the night
[06:01] <[Meta] > thelostpatrol: amaroK?
[06:02] <silversky9> How do I install an audio editing program for ubuntu?... i'm a newbe
[06:02] <mario_> iowadave, can you help me instead?
[06:02] <zie> hello
[06:02] <silversky9> hey
[06:02] <theconartist> silversky9, the same way you would isntall any other program
[06:02] <py_geek> ALL:: Hey, im using ubuntu feisty fawn, and I am having resolution problems on my dell inspiron 1100 (who dosent?) well, I have a 1024 x (whatever the standard is) and im getting like a 640 x 400 screen. What would i need to do to fix it?
[06:02] <IowaDave> mario_: i'm not up to his speed. but why don't you restate the problem you guys were working on and see who speaks up?
[06:02] <silversky9> more like a multi-track audio editing software.... i'm new here
[06:03] <silversky9> i'm not sure what program i should use
[06:03] <zie> anyone know html/php
[06:03] <py_geek> zie: i do
[06:03] <theconartist> zie, #php
[06:03] <zie> yes
[06:03] <IowaDave> zie: what' up?
[06:03] <zie> nothing much
[06:03] <UnluckyMike> meta: run dmesg | grep Sansa
[06:03] <[Meta] > ...
[06:03] <[Meta] > Um?
[06:03] <IowaDave> zie: no, I mean what do you need help with?
[06:03] <zie> well i wanted to start an online company
[06:04] <py_geek> ALL:: Hey, im using ubuntu feisty fawn, and I am having resolution problems on my dell inspiron 1100 (who dosent?) well, I have a 1024 x (whatever the standard is) and im getting like a 640 x 400 screen. What would i need to do to fix it?
[06:04] <UnluckyMike> run that command in terminal
[06:04] <fsckit> can someone tell me how to change the ownership of a usb thumbdrive in fstab?
[06:04] <zie> building programs, looking for partners
[06:04] <StriderZ> I have no CPU usage. Anyone know why my mouse is moving around in a jerky fashion?
[06:04] <zie> i can tell you
[06:04] <[Meta] > Ran the command.
[06:04] <[Meta] > So?
[06:04] <zie> strider: have you installed a theme
[06:04] <py_geek> ALL:: Hey, im using ubuntu feisty fawn, and I am having resolution problems on my dell inspiron 1100 (who dosent?) well, I have a 1024 x (whatever the standard is) and im getting like a 640 x 400 screen. What would i need to do to fix it?
[06:04] <arooni> what is the fastest/easiest software to edit image files?
[06:04] <UnluckyMike> did it display anything?
[06:04] <silversky9> what's the best music editing software for a band that purely uses wav files?
[06:04] <[Meta] > Yes.
[06:04] <silversky9> I don't have a midi
[06:04] <fsckit> anyone know?
[06:04] <zie> Arbor?
[06:05] <UnluckyMike> meta did it show you Sansa carn
[06:05] <StriderZ> arooni: edit like how? GIMP is pretty much the standard.
[06:05] <UnluckyMike> card*
[06:05] <Motoko-chan> Any problems with distro upgrades? I'm being told that the upgrade couldn't be authenticated.
[06:05] <fsckit> zie, i think you mean ardour...
[06:05] <mario_> silversky9, have you tried audacity?
[06:05] <theconartist> silversky9, i dont know the best, but you could try audacity
[06:05] <zie> yes
[06:05] <[Meta] > "[17188322.956000]    Vendor: SanDisk   Model: Sansa c250        Rev: Sans"
[06:05] <silversky9> yeah
[06:05] <py_geek> zie: what u planning to program in?
[06:05] <mon^rch> silversky9: audacity is ok
[06:05] <silversky9> it says something about Jack?
[06:05] <zie> i use python
[06:05] <UnluckyMike> meta: are you running on feisty
[06:05] <[Meta] > No, Dapper.
[06:05] <zie> but i want to create online apllications
[06:05] <silversky9> and it won't open it
[06:05] <makuseru> how can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?
[06:06] <fsckit> silversky9, go to kdeapps, then multimedia, sort by rating. good ones there
[06:06] <UnluckyMike> meta: hold on let me look
[06:06] <mario_> can somebody please help me with a trouble I have running all my 3d games?
[06:06] <zie> mario: i can help
[06:06] <samsm> I just installed Squeak (smalltalk), and now sound doesn't work in anything except Squeak. Any clues on how that happened? (Using 6.10)
[06:06] <zie> ??
[06:06] <StriderZ> fsckit: u may need to add "user,noauto,rw" or something to the permissings in fstab
[06:06] <DrChaos> I've experienced no problems upgrading my distribution.
[06:06] <StriderZ> samsm: does sound work for other stuff when squeak is not running?
[06:06] <mario_> zie, thanks. the thing is, the sreen goes black and I can't do a thing
[06:06] <py_geek> zie: python rulz!!!! Take that, BASIC!!!!
[06:06] <zie> lol
[06:06] <mario_> zie, I have my nvidia drivers installed
[06:06] <zie> hold on py_geek
[06:07] <ry4n> python is the new basic
[06:07] <[Meta] > I used to code BASIC.
[06:07] <zie> lol i use python/ and gui
[06:07] <samsm> StriderZ: Sound works nowhere but Squeak, regardless if Squeak is running or not.
[06:07] <[Meta] > I've forgotten it now. :(
[06:07] <zie> but mario the screen goes black?
[06:07] <arooni> StriderZ: my designer has mocked up pages with jpgs... and i need to correct them ..... so i mostly want to notate what we have right now
[06:07] <fsckit> StriderZ, thanks, i'll try it
[06:07] <StriderZ> samsm: now that is odd...
[06:07] <zie> have you tryed restarting your computer
[06:08] <StriderZ> arooni: I think gimp would be the best choice. It's pretty much the Photoshop of linux....if you wanna put it that way...
[06:08] <py_geek> well, i gotta go... I'm tired...
[06:08] <silversky9> anyone know an excellent chatting program other than GAim?
[06:08] <py_geek> ttly
[06:08] <py_geek> ttyl
[06:08] <py_geek> lol
[06:08] <zie> Im a pro at gimp
[06:08] <zie> need help
[06:08] <StriderZ> What do I used to correct my modelines for X? My screen is all off the side of my monitor and stuff...
[06:08] <DBO> Silentvoice, pidgin =P
[06:08] <mario_> zie, yes. the sounds are there but the images are not. and since tremulous is a full screen game I can't do a thing
[06:08] <samsm> StriderZ: Wait, my bad! Applications launched after Squeak is quit have sound.
[06:08] <zie> hmm
[06:08] <zie> do you have the permissions to play 3d, or the proper tools?
[06:09] <StriderZ> samsm: somehow, squeak is locking you soundcard. Probably a special way you need to run it so that it plays nice. Haven't used it in a long while though and it would depend on your specific sound setup.
[06:09] <mario_> zie, i don't know exactly, you tell me
[06:09] <ferronica>  what command to use to edit sources.list
[06:09] <mario_> zie, I installed the os myself
[06:09] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and why does my A2ZS Notebook show "OLD PCM" and "Old Mic"?
[06:09] <UnluckyMike> meta: have you tried to mount it using "mount"
[06:09] <StriderZ> mario: you have tried running the games using sudo?
[06:09] <[Meta] > Um... no, UnluckyMike. How?
[06:09] <zie> what version of linux are you in
[06:09] <mario_> striderz, not yet
[06:09] <samsm> StriderZ: Thanks for the support, you are probably right.
[06:09] <rizza> anyone really familiar with preseed installation
[06:09] <[Meta] > I can see it, UnluckyMike. I can access all the files. I just can't get my music off it.
[06:09] <mario_> i'm using the latest version of ubuntu 7.043
[06:10] <zie> so human
[06:10] <DanaG> I try to use pulseaudio with my .asoundrc upmix51 device,
[06:10] <zie> ok hold on
[06:10] <DanaG> it just gives me an "assertion failed" message.
[06:10] <UnluckyMike> meta: you mean delete the files?
[06:10] <zie> ok open the termal up
[06:10] <StriderZ> samsm: there are usually stuff like "esddsp" and I believe there is one similar for alsa...etc where you wuold do "<some util> squeak." Some type of audio wrapper to make squeak be good
[06:10] <zie> terminal
[06:10] <[Meta] > I'm not about to delete the files, UnluckyMike
[06:10] <[Meta] > Because I have no idea what's what.
[06:10] <mario_> yes
[06:11] <[Meta] > It has tons of folders strewn all through it
[06:11] <zie> type the name of your game
[06:11] <Devyll> hey, I'm new with ubuntu, just installed it (last version) . How can I get mc installed ?
[06:11] <silversky9> does anyone know a good alternative to Soulseek?  I recently wiped out my windows hard-drive and am getting used to Ubuntu
[06:11] <zie> >>> game
[06:11] <UnluckyMike> meta: what I'm trying to get at is, you can see the files just not write to the file system
[06:11] <[Meta] > Whereas on Windows they're all organised into artists.
[06:11] <mojojojo_> Media Player plugin doesn't work on Firefox for me... I mean it does show the play toolbar, but when I click on it no streaming is done. Can I fix it?
[06:11] <zie> it should open
[06:11] <rizza> any installation help
[06:11] <StriderZ> Devyll: sudo aptitude install mc
[06:11] <thelostpatrol> anyone want to offer the name of a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[06:11] <zie> if that goes black tell me
[06:11] <thelostpatrol> not amarok
[06:11] <StriderZ> thelostpatrol: xmms
[06:12] <Devyll> StriderZ: thanks
[06:12] <ry4n> StriderZ: rhythmbox
[06:12] <DanaG> xmms is very old, however.
[06:12] <[Meta] > Umm.
[06:12] <DanaG> Very.
[06:12] <[Meta] > I don't know, UnluckyMike
[06:12] <StriderZ> ry4n: yeah, that too...LOL
[06:12] <ry4n> xmms is like the old winamp
[06:12] <DanaG> Except with sucky GTK1 file dialogs.
[06:12] <[Meta] > Yes I can write files to it, UnluckyMike
[06:12] <StriderZ> Just naming the ones I know of. You could also do alsaplayer and a myriad of others
[06:12] <[Meta] > I just. Can't. See. The. MP3. Files.
[06:13] <bronxcoder> Hello everyone
[06:13] <samsm> StriderZ: Thanks, I'm copying and saving advice for when I completely tackle this problem. Right now I'm just happy that I don't have to go through a big reinstall-alsa hoopla.
[06:13] <UnluckyMike> meta: I don't understand the problem then. You can read from it and write to it... what else are you trying to do?
[06:13] <zie> ok, heres 3 reasons the game go black. YOur graphics cars doesnt support it. You installed the OS wrong, or somthing went wrong. Or linux doesnt support that game.
[06:13] <UnluckyMike> oh ok
[06:13] <danlock2> Zie, thats 4
[06:14] <zie> lol
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> ferronica: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <colbert> can someone help, simple error i think but can't figure it out: http://pastebin.ca/471820
[06:14] <zie> open "add or remove"
[06:14] <StriderZ> If I cuold get X to work, I could view that link...LOL
[06:14] <UnluckyMike> meta: i'm not sure then must use some strange filesystem for the music
[06:14] <Msword> !download
[06:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:14] <bronxcoder> I could use some advice.  Installed ubuntu server edition on vmware.  anyone have experice setting up xserver?
[06:15] <SeveredCross> bronxcoder: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <Kidpunkx> how can i install ubuntu its on my cdrom righ tnow
[06:15] <SeveredCross> That'll get you X, gnome and all the other stuff.
[06:15] <[Meta] > I dunno. Maybe I should just transfer it on a CD-RW from the Windows machine?
[06:15] <bronxcoder> hmmmm
[06:15] <mario_> zie, still there?
[06:15] <SeveredCross> [Meta] : How is your filesystem mounted?
[06:15] <SeveredCross> Do you have read/write permissions?
[06:15] <Kidpunkx> ubuntu 7.10
[06:15] <bronxcoder> severed croos, thanks
[06:15] <[Meta] > I have no idea. NONE.
[06:15] <SeveredCross> Okay.
[06:15] <[Meta] > I have read/write permission
[06:15] <[Meta] > *permissions
[06:15] <zie> open add or remove
[06:15] <SeveredCross> [Meta] : Pastebin the output of mount
[06:15] <zie> in applications
[06:15] <[Meta] > HOW?
[06:15] <[Meta] > Jeez.
[06:15] <SeveredCross> Oooh.
[06:15] <SeveredCross> Someone's touchy.
[06:15] <pushpop> anyone know a good tool to test for an open smtp relay on your server?
[06:15] <zie> download the game in there
[06:15] <Dolphin07> mneptok, what was that sudo command again?
[06:15] <SeveredCross> Pastebin isn't that bloody hard.
[06:15] <[Meta] > No.
[06:15] <UnluckyMike> meta: it says you should be able to mount it, it is showing up as a scsi drive
[06:15] <[Meta] > How do I mount it?
[06:15] <zie> it should work
[06:15] <[Meta] > X_X
[06:16] <SeveredCross> Oh.
[06:16] <SeveredCross> sudo mount -a
[06:16] <SeveredCross> After that.
[06:16] <SeveredCross> Pastebin the output of that command, if any.
[06:16] <SeveredCross> Then issue just the mount command
[06:16] <Bradford> how do you flash bios
[06:16] <SeveredCross> No sudo, no -a
[06:16] <[Meta] > No command
[06:16] <SeveredCross> And pastebin the output of that.
[06:16] <SeveredCross> Woot?
[06:16] <Bradford> linix said too
[06:16] <[Meta] > The MP3 player is VFAT?
[06:16] <SeveredCross> Okay.
[06:16] <louish> Hi all.   I install wu-ftpd and when I try to start it "/etc/init.d/wu-ftpd"  nothing happens.  How can I see why it isn't starting?
[06:17] <SeveredCross> I wonder why you can't see the files.
[06:17] <SeveredCross> What player are you using?
[06:17] <benkoo> configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[06:17] <Dolphin07> mneptok: the one to change the mod of /dev/vboxdrv to 666
[06:17] <[Meta] > I can see the files. I just can't see the MP3's.
[06:17] <[Meta] > x.x
[06:17] <benkoo> plse
[06:17] <[Meta] > Never mind.
[06:17] <StriderZ> louish: tail /var/log/syslog?
[06:17] <DanaG> pulseaudio: pcm_params.c:187: snd_pcm_hw_param_get_min: Assertion `!snd_interval_empty(i)' failed.
[06:17] <DanaG> Aborted
[06:17] <SeveredCross> Wait.
[06:17] <[Meta] > I'll just transfer them via CD.
[06:17] <mario_> zie, I started the game but, as the screen went black I couldn't controll anything so I had to ctr+alt+backspace to restart the graphics
[06:17] <SeveredCross> You can see files.
[06:17] <SeveredCross> But not MP3's?
[06:17] <SeveredCross> That makes NO sense.
[06:17] <[Meta] > Yes.
[06:17] <biovore> benkoo: apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[06:17] <SeveredCross> What DAP is it?
[06:17] <[Meta] > I think they might've become incoded?
[06:17] <StriderZ> LOL!
[06:17] <[Meta] > *encoded
[06:17] <UnluckyMike> meta it might not show the .mp3 part if it is associated with a media player
[06:17] <louish> StriderZ, tyanks
[06:17] <[Meta] > Nah
[06:17] <SeveredCross> That would have nothing to do with it.
[06:17] <[Meta] > They appear as .DATs
[06:18] <SeveredCross> UnluckyMike: Nautilus doesn't do that, does it?
[06:18] <fsckr> whats the command using sudo to give me root? again
[06:18] <SeveredCross> [Meta] : They're probably encoded to match your DAP maybe.
[06:18] <[Meta] > But on Windows, they appear as MP3s.
[06:18] <[Meta] > My what?
[06:18] <liquiddoom> I've made a custom init script, how do I start it at boot?
[06:18] <Dolphin07> does anyone know the synax for chmodding /dev/vboxdrv to 666
[06:18] <SeveredCross> fsckr: sudo -s
[06:18] <fsckr> ty
[06:18] <SeveredCross> Dolphin07: sudo chmod 666 /dev/vboxdrv
[06:18] <Dolphin07> as part of virtual box
[06:18] <UnluckyMike> I dont know I don't pay much attention to little things like that
[06:18] <SeveredCross> DAP = Digital Audio Player
[06:18] <benkoo> biovore: thks
[06:18] <SeveredCross> What are you trying to transfer these files off of anyway?
[06:18] <[Meta] > Oh.
[06:18] <colbert> can someone help, simple error i think but can't figure it out: http://pastebin.ca/471820
[06:18] <[Meta] > An MP3 player.
[06:18] <zie> hmm
[06:19] <[Meta] > Don't worry. I'm gonna go transfer then now.
[06:19] <[Meta] > *them
[06:19] <zie> ok honestlly i dont know
[06:19] <zie> then
[06:19] <SeveredCross> colbert: You can't use the > thing with sudo.
[06:19] <SeveredCross> Doesn't work quite that well.
[06:19] <SeveredCross> If you really need to do that.
[06:19] <colbert> oh
[06:19] <SeveredCross> IMO, it looks like a bad idea.
[06:19] <zie> sounds like you have an issue with the game
[06:19] <SeveredCross> What you need to do is type sudo -s
[06:19] <SeveredCross> Then issue that command.
[06:19] <zie> not the os
[06:19] <Dolphin07> Thanks SeveredCross
[06:19] <colbert> ahh
[06:19] <iter> ugh punctuation
[06:19] <SeveredCross> You're welcome Dolphin07.
[06:19] <zie> so i wouldnt know
[06:19] <StriderZ> colbert: sudo sh -c '<whatever>' would work, too
[06:19] <DanaG> or sudo -i
[06:20] <mario_> zie, i don't think is the game because that happens with other two
[06:20] <colbert> thanks
[06:20] <SeveredCross> Ah, I didn't know the -c shortcut.
[06:20] <SeveredCross> I know sudo -i and sudo -s
[06:20] <zie> ohh
[06:20] <mario_> zie, but thanks anyway
[06:20] <zie> welcome
[06:20] <SeveredCross> Though I'll be damned if I know the difference right now.
[06:20] <iter> SeveredCross: you know it's bad form to put a period after your sentences in irc?
[06:20] <iter> it makes you sound pedantic
[06:20] <mario_> zie, do you know who can help me ?
[06:20] <pushpop> What is that app that allows you to swiverl your desktop?
[06:20] <NETWizz> What do you think about Edgy vs Fiesty?
[06:20] <iter> pushpop: beryl
[06:20] <StriderZ> mario: u did try to run as root or with sudo?
[06:21] <ry4n> NETWizz: mostly a step forward
[06:21] <Toma-> pushpop: the cube or not the cube?
[06:21] <zie> hmmmm problly ask someone else, im shure someone knows
[06:21] <pushpop> iter: im running ubuntu can I use berly?
[06:21] <beland> hey all
[06:21] <iter> probabaly
[06:21] <zie> on a diffrent server
[06:21] <beland> i'm not able to mount my external hdd, what I have to do ?
[06:21] <thelostpatrol> pushpop, yes
[06:21] <Toma-> !beryl
[06:21] <SeveredCross> iter: That's because I am pedantic.
[06:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:21] <iter> www.beryl-project.org iirc
[06:21] <NETWizz> I am using Edgy, but I am worried about upgrading
[06:21] <NETWizz> My system works absoltely perfect
[06:21] <mario_> striderz, ill try that, but tell me please what can I do if the screen goes black
[06:21] <SeveredCross> NETWizz, what's your worry?
[06:21] <NETWizz> I have been using it since Dapper
[06:21] <thelostpatrol> i need a good mp3 player
[06:21] <louish> can someone tell me how I can deal with the following error ?   wu-ftpd[22970] : Cannot bind socket: Permission denied
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Did you have to hack anything to make it work?
[06:21] <ry4n> NETWizz: if its perfect why bother/
[06:21] <thelostpatrol> all the ones commonly available sound like ass
[06:22] <SeveredCross> louish, it probably should be running as superuser.
[06:22] <iter> louish: are you running wuftpd as root?
[06:22] <NETWizz> Last time it broke my graphics, XGL, and a lot of things
[06:22] <Adlai> iter, please don't discourage correct written English.
[06:22] <zie> im actually looking for proggramers for a project
[06:22] <Adlai> It's so rare to see these days.
[06:22] <SeveredCross> Thank you Adlai.
[06:22] <ry4n> ici on parle francais?
[06:22] <iter> irc is not written english
[06:22] <SeveredCross> IRC is multiplayer notepad.
[06:22] <NETWizz> What do you guys think about the use of Blind Copy at work?
[06:22] <louish> SeveredCross, iter as sudo
[06:22] <beland> ry4n: #ubuntu-fr
[06:22] <DBO> louish, wu-ftpd (btw wu-ftpd is generally not considered the most secure ftp daemon) needs to be run as root
[06:22] <Flannel> NETWizz: #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[06:22] <iter> meh that's what /ignore is for :p
[06:22] <SeveredCross> How I choose to write is my business.
[06:22] <Adlai> This isn't at all a subject for discussion right now.
[06:22] <zilly66> is it possible to format an iPod in Ubuntu?
[06:22] <Toma-> SeveredCross: actually, there is a real multiplayer notepad for linux
[06:22] <SeveredCross> zilly66: Banshee may be able to do it.
[06:22] <SeveredCross> !info banshee
[06:22] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2105 kB, installed size 6204 kB
[06:22] <beland> i'm not able to mount my external hdd, what I have to do ?
[06:23] <SeveredCross> I know it can handle iPods, but not sure if it can format them too.
[06:23] <beland> is mounting usb hdd something to see with /usr/bin/at ??
[06:23] <zilly66> thanks severedcross
[06:23] <SeveredCross> You're welcome zilly66.
[06:24] <louish> DBO,  what would be better to run with?
[06:24] <vorpix> ls
[06:24] <DBO> louish, proftpd is pretty nice =)
[06:24] <SeveredCross> Is proftpd still good?
[06:24] <Xenguy> SeveredCross: OK, but vsftpd is recommended
[06:25] <louish> DBO, okay.
[06:25] <[Meta] > Bloody thing.
[06:25] <[Meta] > It's honestly driving me up the wall
[06:25] <mario_> ubotu, can you please help me with my games graphics?
[06:27] <[Meta] > !gimp
[06:27] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[06:28] <SirBob1701> hey has anyone figured out the Realtek 8185 issue with feisty?  I can see wireless networks but i don't get a reading on their strenght and i can't connect (my home network uses wep)
[06:29] <nomad111> should i use gksu or gksudo?
[06:29] <UnluckyMike> SirBob1701: Don't know much about 8185, but I have to manually configure the /etc/network/interfaces
[06:29] <Toma-> SirBob1701: yeh, add an extra letter to your ESSID
[06:29] <SirBob1701> ok
[06:29] <makuseru> Hi, i recently bought a SATA drive, and the manual says it should get 300mb/s but im only getting 55mb/s, am i doing somthing wrong?
[06:29] <SirBob1701> also the restricted drivers doesn't show up atall on my desktop
[06:29] <UnluckyMike> SirBob1701: I use the rt61
[06:30] <mario_> HEy, can somebody please give me a hand I've been trying for about an hoir to get somme help but nobody seems to be there. I'm asking you, please, my tremulous don't work
[06:30] <Elda> night all
[06:31] <pushpop> how to you enable ssh?
[06:31] <crdlb> !ssh
[06:31] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:31] <iter> pushpop: apt-get install ssh
[06:31] <mario_> HEy, can somebody please give me a hand I've been trying for about an hoir to get somme help but nobody seems to be there. I'm asking you, please, my tremulous don't work
[06:32] <crdlb> what *is* tremulous?
[06:32] <phy2> some game
[06:32] <ry4n> its a quak game
[06:32] <Bradford> mario_ hooked on phonics
[06:32] <ry4n> quake
[06:32] <mario_> yeah
[06:32] <makuseru> UnluckyMike: please dont PM me
[06:32] <ry4n> mario_ what does your glxinfo show
[06:33] <phy2> Tremulous is a rst person shooter featuring two opposing teams, humans and aliens. Both teams are able to build structures such as spawn points, which are vital to their victory. The goal of Tremulous is to eliminate the opposing team and all of their spawn points
[06:33] <crdlb> so it's native?
[06:33] <mario_> ry4n, tell me how to know that
[06:33] <mario_> ry4n, I have my terminal open
[06:33] <crdlb> run the command: glxinfo
[06:33] <ry4n> type glxinfo
[06:34] <crdlb> and pastebin its output
[06:34] <crdlb> !pastebin
[06:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:34] <iter> glxinfo | grep ender
[06:34] <crdlb> well the whole thing is useful
[06:35] <mario_> ry4n, is a table
[06:35] <ry4n> mario_ scroll up. that's just register information
[06:35] <crdlb> mario_: paste the /entire/ output to a pastebin
[06:35] <mario_> ry4n, what should i tell you about
[06:36] <mario_> crdlb, what for?
[06:36] <kosnick> i used network monitor with 6.10 and i could see traffic. Now in 7.04 there is no traffic on the panel, just the icon . i just can change the properties but nothing more. Is this how it is supposed to be or is it some bug ?
[06:36] <crdlb> so we can see it
[06:36] <mario_> oh
[06:36] <mario_> excuse me
[06:36] <crdlb> there's lots of things that can be discerned from it
[06:36] <mario_> name of display: :0.0
[06:36] <mario_> display: :0  screen: 0
[06:36] <mario_> direct rendering: Yes
[06:36] <mario_> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[06:36] <mario_> server glx version string: 1.4
[06:36] <mario_> server glx extensions:
[06:36] <mario_>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
[06:36] <mario_>     GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
[06:36] <mario_>     GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[06:36] <ry4n> mario_ !pastebin
[06:36] <mario_> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[06:36] <mario_> client glx version string: 1.4
[06:36] <ry4n> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:36] <mario_> client glx extensions:
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_NV_video_out, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float,
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[06:37] <ry4n> crisse d'astie
[06:37] <mario_> GLX version: 1.3
[06:37] <mario_> GLX extensions:
[06:37] <Toma-> !ops
[06:37] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
[06:37] <mario_>     GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
[06:37] <iter> kick
[06:37] <mario_> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> !paste | mario_
[06:37] <ubotu> mario_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <Toma-> good one crdlb
[06:37] <Schalken> anyone know where i can get a deb for pidgin 2.0?
[06:37] <crdlb> I already !pastebin'ed
[06:37] <crdlb> before he even did it
[06:38] <ry4n> moi too.
[06:38] <crdlb> so don't go blaming me
[06:38] <L30_> irc.gigachat.net #OutLaw
[06:38] <Toma-> Schalken: unless you compile it yourself, its a little risky at the moment
[06:38] <ry4n> schalken.. what diffs are there between feisty's and latest
[06:38] <Schalken> Toma-: why?
[06:39] <bullgard4> How does Ubuntu calculate the 'last full capacity=3937 mAh' of my battery?
[06:39] <UnluckyMike> isn't feisty's beta 6 anyway?
[06:39] <Toma-> Schalken: who knows what someone might package. it could ruin your system, especially at a later point when its in backports or something
[06:39] <Toma-> Schalken: wait till a reputable packager makes a deb
[06:39] <Schalken> ry4n: pidgin has tango icons and a little better interface.
[06:39] <cycom> Man, I'm going insane trying to get this stupid remote to work.
[06:39] <Schalken> Toma-: okay then.
[06:39] <kosnick> before updating to 7.04 i used network monitor and i could see the traffic. now i cant , i can just see the icon of it and change some properties. Is this a bug?
[06:39] <Schalken> Toma-: i am already using 2.0.0beta7, thats all.
[06:39] <mon^rch> !kompozer
[06:40] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[06:40] <bullgard4> Wie berechnet Ubuntu die 'last full capacity=3937 mAh' meiner Batterie?
[06:40] <cycom> Why would 8 buttons keep working and 9 buttons stop after suspend?
[06:40] <crdlb> bullgard4: the computer tells it over acpi
[06:40] <zor0> how can I see disk activity on my ubuntu system?
[06:41] <kosnick> zor0 : what do you mean "activity"?
[06:41] <zor0> like total mb/s read and write
[06:41] <zor0> or some other measure of how "busy" my disks are
[06:41] <bullgard4> crdlb: Where from has ACPI got this information?
[06:41] <Schalken> Toma-: do the backporters know about pidgin2.0?
[06:41] <Schalken> (2.0final)
[06:41] <Toma-> Schalken: everyone knows about pidgin :)
[06:41] <kosnick> zor0 : have you tried Applications-> Accesorries-> Disk user analyser?
[06:41] <iter> didn't that get released today?
[06:41] <iter> jeez
[06:42] <crdlb> bullgard4: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
[06:42] <crdlb> that's the kernel interface to it
[06:42] <zor0> kosnick: yeah, but thats just used space
[06:42] <kosnick> zor0 : maybe conky will help you too. Just google about "conky"
[06:42] <Schalken> Toma-: any word on weather they plan on backporting it?
[06:42] <zor0> I want to see how fast data is being written
[06:43] <Toma-> Schalken: no idea
[06:43] <johnt> Hi Folks  Totem will not play mpeg files can any one tell me what I need to d/l to fix this??
[06:43] <Toma-> !motu
[06:43] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[06:43] <bullgard4> crdlb: I know this directory and I can look up its contents. I would like to know where from these values come.
[06:43] <mrynit> are there no active north america servers to download ubuntu? all servers give me erros
[06:43] <crdlb> the hardware itself
[06:43] <zor0> kosnick: I'm actually looking for a cli util
[06:44] <mrynit> nvm
[06:44] <Schalken> Toma-: motu=backporters?
[06:44] <bullgard4> crdlb: Elaborate the phrase 'the hardware itself' please.
[06:44] <joe7d6> Hi. I'm investigating security implementation on ubuntu 7.04. hows the security features in ubuntu compare to the following distros? http://en.opensuse.org/Security_Features http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features  thanks in advance :)
[06:44] <Toma-> Schalken: not specifically
[06:44] <kosnick> zor0 : i dont know what cli util is. Could you explain?
[06:44] <crdlb> bullgard4: the same way it can read the make of the battery, the design capacity, etc
[06:44] <jpiccolo> if i have alot of RX errors, would that cause a slow lan file transfer?
[06:44] <crdlb> that particular value may be remembered by the kernel and not stored in hardware
[06:45] <crdlb> but the others certainly are in the hardware
[06:45] <nol13> hi, is there a n64 emulator that runs on linux? whats the best snes smulator?
[06:45] <crdlb> zsnes for snes
[06:45] <joe7d6> ignore apparmor which i despise :p
[06:45] <Toma-> nol13: yeh, muopen64 is probably the best 64 emulator
[06:45] <kosnick> how do i monitor network traffic?
[06:46] <bullgard4> crdlb: Your answer is wrong. The make of the battery is a constant. The 'last full capacity' changes as a function of time.
[06:46] <nol13> cool
[06:46] <Toma-> nol13: sorry, mupen64
[06:46] <crdlb> bullgard4: that's why I said that value may be remembered by the kernel
[06:46] <crdlb> I don't know
[06:46] <DanaG> for Gaim with Bonjour.
[06:46] <DanaG> It
[06:46] <DanaG> It's that "iChat Presence" thingy.
[06:47] <kosnick> how can someone monitor network traffic?
[06:47] <Toma-> kosnick: to what degree?
[06:47] <L30_> como conectar a brasnet ?
[06:48] <alberto> hey guys do you know a good video editor software that lets put titles and makes slideshows too?
[06:48] <Toma-> kosnick: etherape is a good way to monitor
[06:48] <kosnick> Toma : well i used netowrk monitor on my panel with 6.10 and i could see the download/upload rateson my panel . Now after upgrading i can not see these rates any more
[06:48] <Toma-> kosnick: ahh.
[06:48] <axident> can someone help a linux newb out, I have 2 partitions on my 1 harddrive.  1 = XP 2=Vista.  Now I decided that I was going to get rid of XP and install Ubuntu on that partition.  Install worked great, except now I am getting NTLDR is missing when trying to boot to Vista.  How can I fix this?  I don't have a floppy drive on this computer so making a Ubuntu boot disk would have to be done on a USB key.... wondering if there is an easie
[06:48] <axident> r way though.
[06:48] <mariov> back
[06:48] <mariov> hi
[06:48] <mariov> ry4n, still there?
[06:48] <Toma-> kosnick: if youre into monitoring, gkrellm is a nice one.
[06:49] <kosnick> Toma : do you know anything about it?
[06:49] <nol13> axident, vista'd
[06:49] <Toma-> kosnick: just add network monitor to your panel
[06:49] <Toma-> rather than using the terrible nm-applet
[06:49] <kosnick> toma : i did but it does not work as it used to
[06:49] <ry4n> mariov yes
[06:50] <ry4n> use pastebin this time
[06:50] <pushpop> what channel can i find hep with beryl?
[06:50] <Toma-> kosnick: :( not sure how to help you sorry
[06:50] <alberto> hey guys do you know a good video editor software that lets put titles and makes slideshows too?
[06:50] <Toma-> pushpop: #ubuntu-effects
[06:50] <DARKGuy> pushpop: #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[06:50] <mariov> ry4n, sorry about that i couldn't send any message but i have now the paste bin link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19209/
[06:50] <SirBob1701> hmm event with the extra token in my essid i can't get my realtek 8185 to get asignal strength over 0
[06:50] <kosnick> toma : thx anyway
[06:51] <DARKGuy> hey, anybody knows how to spawn another X (with gdm and all) without killing my current X session ?
[06:51] <mariov> ry4n, you just tell me what to do
[06:51] <ry4n> mariov: looks like your video drivers are working well
[06:51] <ry4n> mariov have you tried glxgears
[06:52] <vanberge> would anyone in here be willing to try to help me get an external DVD drive working?  if i plug in, nothing happens whatsoever.  :-(
[06:52] <mariov> ry4n, the glxgears is that animation on green red and blue?
[06:52] <ry4n> mariov: gears.. and if you wait the fps should print out in the terminal
[06:52] <ry4n> should be > 5000 at least
[06:53] <DARKGuy> vanberge: usb? maybe Ubuntu doesn't detect it? o.O I dunno, never messed with one of those but it may be something to look for :P
[06:53] <SirBob1701> i think the fiesty realtek drivers have an issue with wep
[06:53] <mariov> it showd this, X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[06:53] <axident> is there anyone able to help me fix my vista/linux dual boot issue... I am kinda stuck on what do in order to get vista working again without wiping out grub...
[06:53] <ry4n> mariov: well it appears you can't create an opengl surface
[06:54] <mariov> ry4n, and that means?....is there a way to solve that?
[06:54] <skpayne> anyone willing help with wireless connection.  wireless is detecting a neighbors network, but not mine.
[06:54] <beland> why when I do chmod +s i got S in mod ???
[06:54] <jpiccolo> sweet!!! i just fixed my network speed issue!
[06:55] <vanberge> DARKGuy, it is USB... but i don't have any idea where to start with ubuntu detecting it...
[06:55] <thebillywayne> vanberge, lsusb to see if Ubuntu has detected it.
[06:56] <ry4n> mariov: hmm.. in the olden times this usually meant that you weren't a member of the video group
[06:56] <DanaG> Any idea why my pulseaudio fails assertion like that?
[06:56] <beland> why when I do chmod +s i got S in mod ???
[06:56] <ry4n> mariov: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:57] <mariov> ry4n, but ....this is my desktop, I installed the os myself that sounds weird
[06:57] <vanberge> thebillywayne,    Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0ac9:0010 Micro Solutions, Inc.
[06:58] <vanberge> that is the only device i could see even being possible.
[06:58] <beland> -rwSr-Sr-x 1 daemon daemon 37768 2006-07-20 22:15 at
[06:58] <skpayne> can someone help with a wireless access question...  can detect neighbor's wireless but not my own.  just installed Ubuntu
[06:58] <splifter> can anybody tell me where xchat-gnome save the log files
[06:58] <ry4n> mariov: open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file using sudo. check this section: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19211/
[06:59] <holycow> does anyone know if there is an 'equalizer' app that  brings up all volume sources to say a preset of say 65% and lowers any sound sources over the preset back down to 65%?  that way all sound sources particularly online with things like youtube would be easier to listen to without constantly fidling with the sound toggle
[06:59] <thebillywayne> vanberge, did you alter anything in your "Removable Drives and Media Preferences"?
[06:59] <thinman1189> Hi all. I seem to be having some trouble updating from dapper to edgy. I boot to a black screen. I tried going into grub and deleting all instances of 'splash quiet' or 'quiet splash' but it hasn't helped. I checked the site and I've seen similar cases but none of the solutions have helped. I ultimately am just going to update to feisty so if there's a way for me to just skip fixing edgy and go straight to updating to feisty that'd be gre
[06:59] <vanberge> thebillywayne, nope...  :-/
[06:59] <ry4n> holycow: you mean normalizer.. and no i don't
[06:59] <splifter> can anybody tell me where xchat-gnome save the log files
[07:00] <holycow> ry4n, normalizer indeed *nod*
[07:00] <splifter> can anybody tell me where xchat-gnome save the log files
[07:01] <vanberge> thebillywayne,  that device is detected.  it shows up on lsusb.  if i unplug it, it goes away
[07:02] <splifter> does anyone know where xchat-gnome saves the logfiles?
[07:02] <kosnick> zor0 : still here?
[07:02] <thinman1189> Hi all. I seem to be having some trouble updating from dapper to edgy. I boot to a black screen. I tried going into grub and deleting all instances of 'splash quiet' or 'quiet splash' but it hasn't helped. I checked the site and I've seen similar cases but none of the solutions have helped. I ultimately am just going to update to feisty so if there's a way for me to just skip fixing edgy and go straight to updating to feisty that'd be gre
[07:02] <hagbard_> Please give me the IP to google.
[07:02] <aum> what fs type is initrd on ubuntu? i want to mount mine
[07:03] <ry4n> aum: hmm.. isn't it just a raw memory file
[07:03] <mariov> ry4n, i don't see a thing in the gedit editor when i type sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <thebillywayne> vanberge, curiouser and curiouser.  check your "removable drives..." preferences, just to make sure.
[07:03] <holycow> thinman1189, dapper -> edgy is known to have upgrade issues
[07:03] <holycow> big upgrade issues
[07:03] <ry4n> mariov: capital X11
[07:03] <skpayne> can someone help with a wireless access question...  can detect neighbor's wireless but not my own.  just installed Ubuntu
[07:03] <hagbard_> mariov: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <aum> ry4n, is there any way i can mount it into the fs?
[07:03] <hagbard_> IP google, please.
[07:03] <catid> problem with FireFox: View>Toolbars>Bookmarks toggle off doesn't persist between runs.. it keeps turning it back on, same for custom toolbars settings (google toolbar won't go away)
[07:03] <holycow> thinman1189, for feisty a lot of effort was put into a smooth dist-upgrade process
[07:04] <mariov> ry4n, still no text is there
[07:04] <ry4n> aum: i think what happens on boot is that it gets loaded into ram. a hex editor might work
[07:04] <SirBob1701> hmm this realtek issue is ticking me off.  Might just buy a new wireless card for my comp
[07:04] <holycow> thinman1189, i would recommend a clean install if you have tha toption, for edgy that will be faster than fixing the dist-upgrade
[07:04] <hikyuu> hello.. dumb question but i cant seem to remember how to add servers on Xchat, also, how might i look up different IRC chatrooms and etc on topics besides ubuntu and etc?
[07:04] <thinman1189> holycow: I want to update to feisty anyway. is there a way I can update it from recovery mode?
[07:04] <hagbard_> Someone, IP to google please!
[07:04] <ry4n> mariov: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <vanberge> thebillywayne,  mount removable drives is checked
[07:04] <Myrtti> hagbard_: 64.233.187.99
[07:05] <splifter> does anyone know where xchat-gnome saves the logfiles?
[07:05] <hagbard_> Myrtti: Your my life saver.
[07:05] <holycow> i haven't mucked about in recover mode enough to say, i would still recommend a clean install an djust backup /home
[07:05] <Myrtti> hagbard_: np
[07:05] <mariov> ry4n, now
[07:05] <wkdown> quick question, when I install a program, where do the files generally go?  /usr ?
[07:05] <ry4n> wkdown /usr/bin
[07:05] <splifter> /usr/bin
[07:05] <mariov> ry4n, i have the text ant the page you sent me, i think i should paste that, but where?
[07:05] <thebillywayne> splifter, Preferences, Logging.
[07:05] <barelystable> hagbard_: remember, you can always dig @4.2.2.1 whatever.com if you lose your DNS server for a time
[07:05] <wkdown> thats to RUN it .. what about subfiles the program needs in order to run?
[07:06] <barelystable>  youkno, in case you need /other/ domains
[07:06] <ry4n> mariov: see the sections.. find your section called screen
[07:06] <ry4n> compare
[07:06] <thinman1189> holycow:how do I back it up? the only ubuntu cd I have is a dapper distro from an issue of linux monthly and I can't seem to find it. I have a knoppix cd, could I access it from that?
[07:06] <skpayne> any reason why my wireless can "see" neighbor's wireless network, but is not seeing my own?
[07:06] <splifter> thebillywayne: there is no kind of this option...
[07:06] <thebillywayne> vanberge, df to see if it has a device name.
[07:06] <wkdown> ry4n, splifter: what about the dependency files for that program?
[07:06] <mariov> ry4n, I'm seeing it
[07:07] <holycow> thinman1189, ah *hmm* some thinkin/plannin will be reuquired i guess
[07:07] <ry4n> wkdown: some might go in /usr/lib, most settings go in ~/.<program name>
[07:07] <barelystable> skpayne: encryption settings that aren't supported? maybe your SSID is hidden?
[07:07] <holycow> thinman1189, obviously you backup home via usb key, yes you can use knoppix, put a usb flash drive in and yeah just copy it over
[07:07] <thebillywayne> splifter, oh.  XChat-Gnome.  Sorry.  Just use regular XChat.
[07:07] <skpayne> hmm... okay, how might i remedy that?
[07:07] <holycow> reboot and make sure it actually is backed up ... no sense in assuming its backed up when its not
[07:08] <wkdown> ry4n, I thought so (/usr/lib) but this program isnt listed there
[07:08] <splifter> thebillywayne: ok thx
[07:08] <mariov> ry4n, should I replace what i'm seeing for that you sent me from the pastebin
[07:08] <ry4n> wkdown /usr/lib are libraries.. /usr/bin are binaries (aka executables) /usr/src is source code
[07:08] <Kim^J> Now I'm here to help. :)
[07:08] <ry4n> etc
[07:08] <wkdown> what I'm trying to do is add the add-ons for Celestia
[07:08] <ry4n> mariov: how does it differ?
[07:08] <splifter> wkdown: what file?
[07:08] <holycow> now about upgrading, thats a bit of a problem, obviously you can try going directly from dappter to feisty .. that should actually work.  no reason not to.  but chances are there will be things you will haveto fix manually
[07:09] <holycow> thinman1189, thus if you can download a feisty cd and burn it that would be cool
[07:09] <skpayne> barleystable, may I get more info...  maybe ask a few more detailed questions about this wireless item?
[07:09] <holycow> indeed you can download a feisty cd to your hd that will be in /mnt or you can mount it as write in kde/knoppix and save it there and then use the burn software k3b to burn it off
[07:09] <barelystable> skpayne: if your ssid is hidden, it'd need to be setup on the wireless gateway itself
[07:09] <wkdown> splifter, three diff ones ... the model file, texture file and data file
[07:09] <holycow> and install feisty
[07:09] <mariov> ry4n, very much, look at the paste bin link you sent me once again
[07:09] <thinman1189> holycow:okay, thanks for the help. the last time I tried installing ubuntu from a downloaded cd it didn't work and since my current is just destroyed it looks like I'll have to order a feisty cd. unless, is there some sort of way I can test the cd before installing? last time I tried with dapper it would go through the install process and freeze in a pixelated loading screen.
[07:09] <holycow> thinman1189, does that give you a good idea of your options?
[07:10] <eclipse75> whats the name and the location of the alsa driver?
[07:10] <skpayne> I can see it with my windows machines.  works perfectly.
[07:10] <barelystable> if its WPA or WPA2, i've never had good luck on getting those to work under linux (but i haven't tried ubuntu 7.04 right now. current d/ling)
[07:10] <splifter> wkdown: where can i find them?
[07:10] <wkdown> hold
[07:10] <splifter> k
[07:10] <holycow> thinman1189, actually its still working let me guess you probably have a laptop or a box with an intel chipset right?
[07:10] <wkdown> http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/nonmessiernebulae.php
[07:10] <wkdown> each is ZIPed
[07:10] <skpayne> barleystable:  my windows machines can see it.
[07:10] <holycow> if so thats a known issue, xres has a problem halfway through the process , you just haveto wait 15 to 30 minutes and press enter and it will continue and finish the install actually
[07:10] <thinman1189> desktop with an amd 64 athlon
[07:10] <holycow> its not messed up it just looks like it
[07:11] <holycow> still just try
[07:11] <wkdown> they have a FAQ on adding the add-ons but only specify a directory
[07:11] <holycow> as an option
[07:11] <barelystable> skpayne: ah, then maybe its an encryption thing?
[07:11] <holycow> thinman1189, it is possible also that you have a brand new mobo with the latest chipset right?
[07:11] <m4st3r> hi all
[07:11] <splifter> thx
[07:12] <skpayne> barleystable:  okay, might it have something to do with my particular wireless router (Microsoft MN 500)?
[07:12] <holycow> if so then i guarantee that dapper won't support latest nvidia chipset, i had the kernel team backport nforce 6 drivers but i don't know if it was ever brought to the repost as i ditched anything with nforce on it as a result
[07:12] <thebillywayne> !hi | m4st3r
[07:12] <ubotu> m4st3r: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:12] <m4st3r> excuse me, how can i run the bittorrnto?
[07:12] <mariov> ry4n, have you seen that?
[07:12] <thinman1189> my mobo is about a year old. I haven't checked for any driver updates since I built my comp :s
[07:13] <holycow> a year old is probably still too old, nforce 6 drivers were starting to come out then i think
[07:13] <barelystable> skpayne: maybe. i remember hearing that those MS routers weren't the most "compatible" things in the world. I've never used one myself. they always looked sweet though
[07:13] <ry4n> mariov: umm. i opened a seperate room with instruction
[07:13] <m4st3r> i did apt-get install bittorrent
[07:13] <holycow> just a guess tho, hard to say
[07:13] <ry4n> check your tabs or something
[07:13] <holycow> just giving you something to work with
[07:13] <vanberge> thebillywayne, i just ripped the dvd drive out of the external case... lol.   it looks like it has normal ata / power connectors.  maybe will work as internal?  :-)
[07:13] <holycow> thinman1189, again, downloading feisty via knoppix and burning that off is your best bet and least aggravating.  just make sure you right click on your hd mount points on the desktop and set them to write
[07:13] <barelystable> skpayne: you may want to try disabling the security on the wireless connection, try and get your linux machine onto it, and then enabling encryption again and see if it disappears
[07:14] <ry4n> mariov: i have to leave now. so.. i pasted instructions in a seperate room with just us (check your room list or tabs or something). or you can ask someone else
[07:14] <lt> can anyone help me with a nxserver setup?  Currently only one user can be connected at a time, i check the cfg files, but there isnt anything for multiple users
[07:14] <thebillywayne> vanberge, whoah.  well.  no harm in trying.  ;)
[07:14] <eclipse75>  whats the name and the location of the alsa driver id use for teamspeak?
[07:14] <mariov> ry4n, i can't open other rooms
[07:14] <thinman1189> my video card is pretty horrible. it's an xgi volari, lol.
[07:14] <mariov> ry4n, what's the name of the room?
[07:15] <skpayne> barleystable:  sorry for stupid question -- is that easy to do?  Not sure exactly how I'd go about doing that.
[07:15] <kairu0> n
[07:15] <barelystable> skpayne: you'd have to log into your router, and disable encryption if it was enabled. if you never enabled it, then i'll bet its just not compatible
[07:15] <mariov> ry4n, you have been very kind, I thank you a lot
[07:16] <skpayne> If I have a long WEP security key, that means I've encrypted, right?
[07:16] <barelystable> skpayne: the process woudl be different for every router, so you'd have to check your docs
[07:16] <m4st3r> hey, i did apt-get install bittorrent. but don't run!
[07:16] <SirBob1701> my realtek 8185 shows signal strengths of 0 and won't connect to a network i know is good (wep).  I even tried the essid extra character.  can anyone gimme a hand?
[07:16] <barelystable> yeah it does
[07:17] <thinman1189> holycow: my video card is pretty horrible. it's an xgi volari, lol. I'm going to try a back up and a downloaded install cd. Should I try and update my drivers first? I assume that for the download I choose the second option, for 64bit AMD?
[07:17] <skpayne> barleystable:  okay, thanks for thoughts.  I assume if I have long WEP key i have encryption right?
[07:17] <barelystable> and if you're using WEP then linux shouldn't have a problem seeing it. so you might be looking at an incompatibility problem with linux or maybe just that network card
[07:18] <thinman1189> holycow: my video card is pretty horrible. it's an xgi volari, lol. I'm going to try a back up and a downloaded install cd. Should I try and update my drivers first? I assume that for the download I choose the second option, for 64bit AMD?
[07:18] <holycow> thinman1189, no idea, don't you have onboard video by chance? if so you can try that as a default, i have never heard of a volari, no clue what driver that might use
[07:18] <z0rz> How do I just to the last column of ls -l ?  (Aka the file name) I guess I could do something with awk.. but I dont' know to use it...
[07:18] <barelystable> ls -C 1
[07:18] <barelystable> er, no space: ls -C1
[07:19] <Snowman> Hi folks, I know this isn't exactly the channel for this, but I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience with knetworkmanager.  the guys in #kubuntu are at a loss.
[07:20] <z0rz> Hmm, that doesn't seem to be alphabetical
[07:20] <mariov> kim^J, hi, I saw you were here to help, i need some, can you?
[07:20] <thinman1189> holycow: I do but I've never used it. Would Dapper have even operated if there wasn't an available driver?
[07:20] <holycow> thinman1189, well why not try it? what have you got to loose?
[07:20] <holycow> chances are the nv driver might actually work with the onboard video chipset?
[07:21] <deCon> i'm trying to install avant-window-navigator, but when i run this SVN command in term, it just stops
[07:21] <Snowman> basically, I can manually configure my wlan nic via the manually configure option, but when I do that I lose the list of LAN's.
[07:21] <barelystable> its sorted on mine, but right now on my mac. i don't know if ls is different on linux or not
[07:22] <thinman1189> holycow:not much, lol. I hope so. but then what, check to see if there's an available driver for my card? I can't just always work off the onboard, I have windows and the mac theme would crash me without a video card. if there's a driver made by xgi on their site, how can I install it through the command line on start up?
[07:23] <mariov> hello, can somebody please help me , it seems i can't create opengl surfaces with my nvidia
[07:23] <z0rz> Anyone know of a way to do ls -C1 alphabetically?
[07:23] <barelystable> ls -1 | sort
[07:24] <barelystable> like in mario bros., use the pipes
[07:24] <foxiness>  usermod -G vboxusers -a ,it's not run why?
[07:25] <mariov>                                              how can I activate my opengl surfaces on nvidia video card
[07:25] <mariov> help, please
[07:25] <barelystable> if i remember correctly though, both ls -C1 and sort will sort using ASCII values, so capitals come before lowers. maybe thats what your'e seeing?
[07:26] <z0rz> barelystable: You're a genious ;) thanks
[07:26] <barelystable> in which you'll want ls -C1 | sort -f
[07:26] <mrmikegx> Does anyone have problems with fiesty and wireless keybards and mice
[07:26] <thinman1189> holycow:not much, lol. I hope so. but then what, check to see if there's an available driver for my card? I can't just always work off the onboard, I have windows and the mac theme would crash me without a video card. if there's a driver made by xgi on their site, how can I install it through the command line on start up?
[07:26] <barelystable> mrmikegx: problem with it? like morally speaking? i'm not inherently against it. if thats what you mean
[07:27] <mariov> god, help me woth this nvidia card
[07:27] <mariov> with
[07:27] <mrmikegx> no I mean its not recognized
[07:28] <mrmikegx> It happened sometimes on breazy
[07:28] <mrmikegx> or edgy
[07:28] <thinman1189> how do I install a video driver from a site on startup
[07:28] <dfgas__> anyone have problems with soundblaster live 5.1 and only one speaker works?
[07:29] <mrmikegx> When I boot up there sometimes is no keyboard and mouse.  If I go in safe mode then it will work.
[07:29] <Toma-> Has anyone had any experience installing via the harddrive with feisty?
[07:30] <deCon> can someone help me figure out why an install isn't working? i'm in terminal and i insert "svn checkout http://avant-window-navigator.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ avant-window-navigator" ..then it jumps to black with the cursor instead of doing anything
[07:30] <barelystable> mrmikegx: what kind of connection is it using?
[07:31] <mrmikegx> its a ps2
[07:31] <mrmikegx> but wireless
[07:31] <mrmikegx> a4tech
[07:31] <deCon> anyone?
[07:32] <barelystable> sounds like maybe the receiver doesn't come up fast enough to be detected?
[07:33] <Flannel> deCon: AWN has an Ubuntu repository
[07:33] <|chiz|_> deCon, the link is probably just not responding
[07:33] <mrmikegx> yeah
[07:33] <mrmikegx> is there any way to hardcode it in?
[07:34] <deCon> Flannel, thanks. I installed the repo in the list and updated etc..but it just jumps and does nothing, try again later? the command syntax is proper, correct?
[07:34] <barelystable> maybe theres something in your bios that you could futz with. one of those "legacy" settings
[07:34] <thinman1189> how do I install a video driver from a site on startup?
[07:34] <sid32> hey.. anyone have any experiences with disapearing applications lits?
[07:34] <sid32> lists?
[07:34] <deCon> > Flannel You are a help addict you know
[07:34] <barelystable> if you can get into the bios with the keyboard then it comes up pretty fast
[07:34] <Flannel> deCon: If you added the repository (thats the apt repository, not the svn repository), you shouldn't need to build from source.  But yeah, that syntax lookedgood
[07:34] <sid32> applications menu is totally blank
[07:34] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, what are you trying to do?
[07:35] <deCon> Flannel, I'm following directions on this site...is there another way you could point me to?
[07:35] <deCon> Flannel, http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/UbuntuFeistyHowTo
[07:35] <Smitty> how do you install a .iso?
[07:35] <mrmikegx> yeah i can get into the bios.  I can even get into ubuntu i just have to use safe mode.  I get into save mode with the same keyboard and mouse.
[07:35] <Flannel> deCon: deCon http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu+Feisty+Repository
[07:35] <thelostpatrol> question: is noscript for firefox useful at all in ubuntu or is it not necessary/obsolete?
[07:35] <jpiccolo> RX errors means a bad network card, right?
[07:36] <Hamm_laptop> yeah i've been looking for a good linux app that makes and mounts *.iso files
[07:36] <z0rz> thelostpatrol: it is useful in Ubuntu
[07:36] <mariov>                                                                                                 how can I get mi nvidia nv18 video card to be able to use opengl textures
[07:36] <Hamm_laptop> so if you find one let me know
[07:36] <thinman1189> |chiz|_: I tried to update from dapper to edgy but I boot to a black screen. I removed splash quiet and quiet splash from the command line but it didn't help. someone else in here suggested it was my video card. I just want to update to feisty anyway so if there's a way to skip fixing edgy that'd be great.
[07:36] <Flannel> deCon: That way doesn't require any compiling, and as such, you get the beenfits of package management
[07:36] <Flannel> Hamm_laptop: eh?  "mount" mounts ISOs
[07:36] <janeNarak> 1126 user !!
[07:36] <thelostpatrol> z0rz, thanks. can you explain how?
[07:36] <z0rz> Cross site scripting is still a possibility on Ubuntu
[07:36] <sid32> repairing damaged aplications?
[07:36] <thelostpatrol> z0rz, oh, i see.
[07:36] <Flannel> !iso | Hamm_laptop
[07:36] <ubotu> Hamm_laptop: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:36] <sid32> list?
[07:36] <thelostpatrol> z0rz, ok, i shall keep it then.
[07:36] <deCon> Flannel, right...i did all that...all the way to the bottom except the affinity thing
[07:37] <DBO> thelostpatrol, it protects against poorly coded javascript that loops over and over
[07:37] <Hamm_laptop> i am a noob heh,....still reading
[07:37] <mariov>                goooooddd hhhhhheeeeeeeellllllllllpppppppp
[07:37] <Flannel> deCon: right.  If you did that (my) page, you don't need to do the other
[07:37] <z0rz> Also, there are vulnerabilities that can get your router password via javascript.  CSS is all the rave now a days, so I'm sure there will be more to come.
[07:37] <deCon> Flannel, oh ok...so i guess it is installed??? the last thing i did was "sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator-svn"
[07:38] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, are you able to get a console by hitting alt-ctrl-F1?
[07:38] <thelostpatrol> DBO, thanks. in windows i use it to prevent spyware.
[07:38] <barelystable> mrmikegx: found a link that talks about a problem with PS2 and sis mobos, no real solution offered. got a sis based board?
[07:38] <deCon> Flannel, lol...nevermind, its running, i just didn'
[07:38] <Flannel> deCon: sounds good.
[07:38] <deCon> Flannel, didn't think it had installed that way.. thank you again!
[07:39] <mrmikegx> let me check
[07:39] <B123> What is the best way to backup DVD's with ubuntu
[07:39] <Flannel> !dvd | B123
[07:39] <ubotu> B123: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:39] <thinman1189> no, I'm not. I used to be able to use ctrl-alt-del + enter to restart. my graphics card is kind of old and unknown. I'm thinking that there just aren't any drivers for it.
[07:40] <B123> okay! im downloading it now.
[07:40] <deCon> Flannel, do you know how to insert a beryl workspace manager into this particular program?
[07:40] <Flannel> deCon: no idea.  You might ask in #ubuntu-effects though
[07:40] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, can you boot single user mode?
[07:40] <Flannel> deCon: er... hmm.  No, I don't know if theyd know either.
[07:41] <SurfnKid> !cue
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <DrChaos> anyone use kvpnc to connect to a watchguard or other ipsec box?
[07:41] <thinman1189> I'm not sure what that means. if I go into grub I can get into recovery mode. I've never been in it before so I don't know what it's supposed to be like but all I get is a command line when it's done.
[07:41] <musya> ok i installed wxwidgets via downloading the file and installing it, but how do i run it?
[07:41] <DrChaos> I need som help
[07:41] <deCon> Flannel, no worries, ill play around. have a good ______ (wherever you are)
[07:41] <vanberge> thebillywayne,  guess what works perfectly as an internal dvd drive... lol
[07:42] <thebillywayne> vanberge, sweet!  hope you didn't pay too much extra for it.  :D
[07:42] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, recovery mode is just what ubuntu calls single user mode
[07:42] <vanberge> thebillywayne, freebee.... hand me  down
[07:42] <thebillywayne> vanberge, awesome.
[07:42] <thinman1189> |chiz|_:then yes I can :s
[07:42] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, basically it gives you a root console
[07:43] <vanberge> ;-)  i didnt know you could do that
[07:43] <thinman1189> |chiz|_:okay. so, what should I do?
[07:44] <mrmikegx> no my board has a via chipset
[07:44] <barelystable> mrmikegx: hmm, welp check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416356 maybe it will help
[07:44] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first, I would recommend using the video driver nv for now (I think you said that you have a nvidia card) and see where that gets you
[07:44] <barelystable> basically comes down to turning off USB legacy support in the bios i guess
[07:45] <d0lph1nK1ng> does NDisWrapper work for any windows driver?
[07:46] <d0lph1nK1ng> such as a webcam driver
[07:46] <thinman1189> |chiz|_:I have an xgi volari card but I have onboard I could temp use. I'm not sure how I would choose the driver etc. though
[07:46] <barelystable> nope, ndiswrapper means "network driver interface spec"
[07:46] <tsikis> hello there
[07:46] <mrmikegx> ok im going to try this.  Thanks for the help barystable.
[07:46] <d0lph1nK1ng> bummer, thanx barelystable
[07:46] <barelystable> np
[07:46] <tsikis> anyone has any good torrent client that works and dont crash all the time like azureus besides ktorrent?
[07:47] <barelystable> doplin: read something online about a guy whose done like 100 webcam drivers
[07:47] <Angel-SL> !kde-package
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <barelystable> it was on dig a couple of days ago
[07:47] <|chiz|_> thinman1189: when you do the dpkg-reconfigure, it will give you a list of ones that you are currently compiled into your kernel
[07:47] <DBO> barelystable, more like 352 =P
[07:47] <Angel-SL> hey, whats the package to install KDE on Ubuntu? i want both..
[07:47] <DBO> Angel-SL, kubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <HKJGN_> moo..
[07:47] <|chiz|_> thinman1189: when you do the dpkg-reconfigure, you just have to pick the right one :P
[07:47] <barelystable> ha, okie 352
[07:47] <Angel-SL> DBO: that installs KDE on ubuntu, right?
[07:48] <DBO> Angel-SL, sure does
[07:48] <Angel-SL> Okay
[07:48] <thinman1189> okay, thanks. I'll try that.
[07:48] <mariov> i cannot play my 3d games hhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllppppppppppp
[07:48] <barelystable> did he really write 352 drivers or is it a couple of drivers that work for a lot chipsets?
[07:48] <DBO> mariov, chillax, what video card do you have?
[07:48] <mariov> dbo, nvidia
[07:48] <DBO> barelystable, probably somewhere in between
[07:49] <DBO> mariov, more specific please
[07:49] <mariov> DBO, nvidia nv18
[07:49] <Wriest> what kind of application can you use with ubuntu like ares and limewire ?
[07:49] <DBO> mariov, did you use the Restricted Modules helper thing?
[07:50] <mariov> DBO, I don't know what is that, can you tell me?
[07:50] <thinman1189> is java better in 7.04?
[07:50] <musya> ok i installed wxwidgets via downloading the file and installing it, but how do i run it?
[07:50] <Gerro> mariov: updatedb then do locate blacklist play around with that to decide what drivers you don't want loaded and which you do
[07:50] <DBO> mariov, System -> Adminstration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[07:50] <thinman1189> |chiz|_: Do you know if java is more efficient in 7.04?
[07:51] <|chiz|_> thinman1189: I don't know, what are you trying to run in java?
[07:51] <mariov> DBO, yes, i did that and I have my driver "beeing used" (sorry, spanish version)
[07:52] <DBO> mariov, can you please type glxinfo into a console and put the results into pastebin
[07:52] <thinman1189> |chiz|_: an applet. on windows it takes up 40% of my cpu. in ubuntu it takes up 100% and barely functions.
[07:52] <spinz8r> hi, how do i access hfs partition in Fesity? tks
[07:53] <thinman1189> |chiz|_: release notes said something about java being integrated or something. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be more efficient now.
[07:53] <Toma-> thinman1189: sounmds like a pretty poorly written applet
[07:53] <Wriest> what 2p2 application can I use in ubuntu?
[07:53] <odkjwodwodjkwodj>  hi guys, what is the best linux distribution to be installed on USB flash and that runs under windows? :-)
[07:53] <mariov> DBO, take a look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19209/
[07:53] <|chiz|_> oh, I'm not sure, I haven't run any java apps yet
[07:53] <DBO> mariov, well that looks wonderful
[07:53] <thinman1189> toma-:it's a very large applet, an mmo :$ .
[07:53] <DBO> mariov, run glxgears and see if you see 3d rotating gears =)
[07:53] <SurfnKid> whats a good ape+cue = mp3 converter
[07:53] <SurfnKid> flac?
[07:54] <jnc> odkjwodwodjkwodj: It's called Offtopic, you can find it quite often in this channel
[07:54] <Toma-> odkjwodwodjkwodj: slax is a great USB based distro, but linux wont "run under windows" without a virtual machine
[07:54] <mariov> DBO, I see them perfectly rotating
[07:54] <DBO> mariov, so whats the problem?
[07:54] <Ademan> when importing photos in f-spot, if you uncheck the "copy images to Photos directory" option, what happens? does it move the images? or make symlinks? or what?
[07:54] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> Toma- thanks, what do you mean by virtual machine?
[07:55] <jnc> SurfnKid: you'll be lucky to find any app that deals with 'ape' or other encumbered formats
[07:55] <tsikis> anyone has any good torrent client that works and dont crash all the time like azureus besides ktorrent?
[07:55] <thinman1189> Toma-:Do you happen to know if java is more efficient in 7.04?
[07:55] <vanberge> thebillywayne, now that i have a working dvd drive - anything special i have to do in order to have dvd playback?  i already did the install libdvdread3
[07:55] <Ademan> odkjwodwodjkwodj: a virtual machine is like a way to have a "computer inside a computer" in a sense
[07:55] <Toma-> odkjwodwodjkwodj: i mean you cant "run" linux from windows. its a total windows replacement. you can run it from something like qemu for windows
[07:55] <mariov> DBO, when I run tremulous (and other 3d games) the screen goes black and i can't do a thing or see anything
[07:55] <jnc> Ademan: good question, answer is "undefined" :(
[07:55] <Toma-> thinman1189: it has a newer version, so i should suspect so
[07:55] <thebillywayne> vanberge, install mplayer?  :)
[07:55] <Ademan> jnc: why's it an option then? :-p
[07:56] <vanberge> thebillywayne,  i thought vlc would handle it
[07:56] <DBO> mariov, can you try planet penguin racer just for kicks?
[07:56] <thebillywayne> vanberge, either/or.  vlc is good too.
[07:56] <Ademan> jnc: rather unfortunate too cause i need it to move them, last time i tried having it copy them i ended up using up my entire hard disk
[07:56] <SurfnKid> jnc, i see, well this will be the last time i convert anything from that format to mp3
[07:56] <jnc> Ademan: hey I didn't write it.  I would presume that f-spot keeps a database, and disabled "copy" option means that it would have a reference to the pathname
[07:56] <Wriest> what is the channel to go to off topic?
[07:56] <vanberge> thebillywayne,  vlc just bombs when i try  :(
[07:56] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> Toma-, i dont want to ruin my windows... i just need to be able to run linux from a usb drive... how to do that? will that affect my windows files?
[07:56] <mariov> DBO, is that on the add/remove tool?
[07:56] <DBO> yes
[07:56] <jnc> SurfnKid: if you ask, I suggest that you figure out how to make Foobar2000 function with WINE
[07:57] <airtonix> does freenode still block tor connections?
[07:57] <user_> can somebody help me to get my proper screen resolution?
[07:57] <SurfnKid> jnc, whats Foobar2000?
[07:57] <Toma-> odkjwodwodjkwodj: if you install ubuntu or slax onto a USB drive, youll be booting off that drive, into a fresh linux each time. it wont effect windows at all
[07:57] <airtonix> sufnkid its a music player
[07:57] <thebillywayne> vanberge, launch vlc from a terminal so you'll see what errors come up.
[07:57] <airtonix> lol
[07:57] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> Toma- thanks alot! :)
[07:57] <thebillywayne> user_, what video driver?
[07:57] <SurfnKid> jnc, :P
[07:58] <Toma-> odkjwodwodjkwodj: np. you can ask more in #slax or check out their website
[07:58] <Ademan> jnc: any idea how i might get it to move everything rather than copy? heck, is there a fspot channel?
[07:58] <user_> oh thanks, nVidia drivers
[07:58] <Ademan> clearly not on this server...
[07:58] <jnc> SurfnKid: foobar2000 has some plugins which make it convenient for exporting to other lossless / lossy formats
[07:58] <mariov> DBO, i'm installing it
[07:58] <SurfnKid> i see
[07:58] <thebillywayne> user_, what resolution you aiming for?
[07:58] <jnc> Ademan: Gnome projects typically use irc.gnome.org
[07:58] <Wriest> can someone tell me the channel to off topic
[07:58] <thinman1189> Toma-: Sorry for the stupid question. My cpu is an amd athlon 64, I presume I should download the 64bit version?
[07:58] <airtonix> jnc: so foobar is native to linux?
[07:58] <Toma-> Wriest: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:58] <thebillywayne> Wriest, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:58] <user_> thebillywayne 1280*1024
[07:58] <thebillywayne> boo ya
[07:58] <Wriest> thanx
[07:58] <jnc> airtonix: no sir, it is a windows executable
[07:59] <Ademan> jnc: yeah i just tried there :-/
[07:59] <airtonix> jnc : /cry
[07:59] <jnc> airtonix: I noes.
[07:59] <Toma-> thinman1189: no. get the java package from the repositories with Synaptic. its best to keep to using packages
[07:59] <airtonix> jnc: for winamp also does the same
[07:59] <thebillywayne> user_, have you reconfigured your xserver since installing the nVidia driver?
[07:59] <Toma-> thinman1189: the version you need will be the only version available to you
[07:59] <user_> I don't know how to do that indeed
[07:59] <airtonix> jnc: i want the avs out of winamp native to linux.
[07:59] <jnc> airtonix: I like Amarok, and also exaile
[07:59] <user_> would you mind to explain it step by step?
[08:00] <thebillywayne> user_, well, I'm not very familiar with nVidia, honestly.  Let me ask a general question to the room.
[08:00] <user_> ok
[08:00] <airtonix> jnc: try gnomeMusicBrowser
[08:00] <jnc> airtonix: I hear foobar2000 works perfectly under WINE, which is good for most people
[08:00] <thebillywayne> Don't you have to reconfigure xserver after installing a new video driver?
[08:00] <jnc> airtonix: :)  that sounds new and interesting
[08:00] <bullgard4> The file 'acpiconf.c' is not on my computer. See
[08:00] <thinman1189> Toma-: Sorry for not clarifying. I'm talking about an install cd for ubuntu 7.04. My current ubuntu os has had problems whilst updating to 6.10. I think I'm just going to back up and do a clean install.
[08:00] <jnc> airtonix: veering off topic though haha
[08:00] <vanberge> thebillywayne,  i removed /home/user/.vlc dir ,and works now
[08:00] <airtonix> jnc: does foobar have the adnvancedVisulisationStudio from winamp?
[08:01] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> toma- i should download the .iso file or the .tar file??
[08:01] <airtonix> all: ooh sooryyy
[08:01] <user_> I haven't installed nVidia drivers yet, I'm just trying to figure out how to get a proper screen resolution
[08:01] <thebillywayne> vanberge, oh.  cool.  maybe I should try that (I've been having problems with dvd playback).
[08:01] <bullgard4> (http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/acpi/acpibif.c.) Where can I find it?
[08:01] <Toma-> thinman1189: ahh ok. i hear the 64bit distro is quite good now for managing the last of the 32bit apps like flash
[08:01] <Toma-> odkjwodwodjkwodj: iso. also, dont ask in here, move it to #ubuntu-offtopic if anywhere
[08:01] <bullgard4> The file 'acpiconf.c' is not on my computer. See  (http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/acpi/acpibif.c.) Where can I find it?
[08:01] <SurfnKid> DBO, got a question about glxinfo
[08:02] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> ok
[08:02] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, you should install the x86 version, stay away from the nightmares of running the 64bit version, unless you really need 64bit computing, and if you're not sure on that one then probably don't
[08:02] <SurfnKid> DBO, would you know why I get this  glxinfo | grep Driver
[08:02] <airtonix> how do i change the text of the commandPrompt?
[08:02] <SurfnKid> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[08:02] <SurfnKid>  instead of the ATI Mobility Radeon output, if it once worked before
[08:02] <jnc> airtonix: controlled by shell variable PS1
[08:02] <godlygeek> 'scuse me, all, I have a question about acpi/acpid/gnome-power-manager: Got feisty set up pretty easily on my new macbook, and this time around I decided to do things in a more ubuntu-y way, rather than throwing my own shell scripts all over the system.  So, i'm playing with gnome-power-manager and such, and I just accidentally let my laptop run down to 0 battery, taking the whole system with it - shouldn't something have asked the syst
[08:03] <user_> thebillywayne I don't need 3D support at all
[08:03] <JunZiJian> how to del the whole content in vi
[08:03] <airtonix> cheers
[08:03] <jnc> JunZiJian: d 21351256123651235 j
[08:03] <godlygeek> JunZiJian: ggdG
[08:03] <jnc> i.e. some ridiculous number, and the command for down one character
[08:03] <thebillywayne> user_, paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf into the pastebin.
[08:03] <godlygeek> jnc: mine's better.  ;-)
[08:03] <|chiz|_> SurfnKid: are you running an xgl session?
[08:03] <LH> any good linux scripting gurus around?, i have this row where i need to replace (last part of $i) with some acctual code: for i in `find . -maxdepth 1 -type d`; do mkdir /share/(last part of $i) && mount --bind $i /share/(last part of $i); done
[08:03] <thinman1189> Toma-:Last time I tried to install off of a downloaded cd it hang in a pixelated loading screen. is there any way to check that my cd is not corrupted or should I just buy a cd?
[08:03] <JunZiJian> thks a lot
[08:04] <user_> thebillywayne excuse me but, how can I do that?
[08:04] <jnc> godlygeek: You win my hat.
[08:04] <aum> hi - what fs format is initrd in?
[08:04] <jnc> aum: depends on your kernel version
[08:04] <Toma-> thinman1189: you can get a free CD from ShipIt, and you can check the CDs integrity from the inital install screen
[08:04] <aum> 2.6.20.3
[08:04] <thebillywayne> user_, open a terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal).  Enter the command: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:04] <SurfnKid> |chiz|_, yes
[08:04] <godlygeek> LH: when you say "last part of $i", you mean....   if $i is /etc/init.d/ac.d, you want... ac.d?
[08:04] <thebillywayne> user_, then paste the output of that command to the pastebin.
[08:04] <jnc> aum: common initrd formats for kernels prior to 2.6.15 are gzipped ext2 filesystems, squashfs filesystems, or jffs
[08:05] <user_> thebillywayne done, now what?
[08:05] <LH> godlygeek, yeah
[08:05] <jnc> aum: more recent filesystems make use of initramfs
[08:05] <thebillywayne> user_, paste it to the pastebin.
[08:05] <aum> ok
[08:05] <thebillywayne> !pastebin | user_
[08:05] <ubotu> user_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <SurfnKid> |chiz|_, it was giving me direct rendering: yes, once before now it doesnt, but the cube works fine
[08:05] <godlygeek> mkdir $i:t, if you're running bash or zsh
[08:05] <aum> jnc, i want to mount my initrd and look inside it
[08:05] <|chiz|_> SurfnKid: that is why you are getting that error, if you log in to a normal gnome/kde session then you won't have that error
[08:05] <jnc> aum: so, I forgot the sequence of events to pick one apart and recreate it, but it's not very simple
[08:05] <LH> thx
[08:05] <thebillywayne> user_, after you've pasted the output of that command to the pastebin, give me the link to your paste.  :)
[08:05] <user_> ubotu thanks pal, didn't know that
[08:06] <jnc> aum: google for like "custom initramfs" might turn up info you could read up on
[08:06] <user_> thebillywayne all right, that I'll do
[08:06] <thebillywayne> !bot | user_
[08:06] <aum> jnc, ok
[08:06] <ubotu> user_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:06] <Snowman> greetings.
[08:06] <thinman1189> Toma-:Yes but I don't want to wait the 10 weeks. I'd rather spend $10 and get it sooner. I checked it from the when I originally tried a while back. Everything checked out but it still didn't work.
[08:06] <Snowman> I realize this isn't the kubuntu channel, but would there be anyone here familiar with either ndiswrapper, or knetworkmanager (ideally both.)?
[08:06] <SurfnKid> |chiz|_, i see, so that has been the confusing part about ATI with XGL, that when im in a normal session direct rendering is working, but isnt once I go into XGL, is this how it's supposed to work?
[08:06] <Toma-> thinman1189: did you get any error messages?
[08:07] <airtonix> umm yeah not sure how to change sheel variables..is it with the ECHO command?
[08:07] <|chiz|_> thinman1189, when you had trouble with the install disc in the past was it the 32bit version or the 64bit version?
[08:07] <user_> thebillywayne if everything went right, it's: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19219/
[08:07] <airtonix> soeey shell variables
[08:07] <jnc> Snowman: i am slowly walking away :/
[08:07] <airtonix> gah...
[08:07] <jnc> airtonix: good guess, mate
[08:07] <Snowman> jnc: eh?
[08:08] <Toma-> thinman1189: and yeh, you can buy it, but that wont help that much. ShipIt only takes around 3 weeks
[08:08] <jordan> Hey, does anyone know much about how XMDCP really works, like is everything (graphics and junk) send uncompressed?
[08:08] <jnc> airtonix: pm if you want a little one-on-one for unix howto
[08:08] <godlygeek> Snowman: actual question, perhaps?  I'm no expert, but I might be able to help.
[08:08] <thinman1189> Toma-:No, it went into the loading screen and the moving portion of the loading bar froze on the right side. after about 5-10mins the screen became pixelated and didn't do anything.
[08:08] <Fylk> Is there any chance that we'll be getting pidgin any time soon?
[08:08] <thebillywayne> user_, you're wanting which resolution again?
[08:08] <Toma-> Fylk: no
[08:08] <thinman1189> Toma-:I think it may be my graphics card. I really want ubuntu but I don't have the money for a new one.
[08:09] <Fylk> Any reason why Toma?
[08:09] <user_> 1280*1024
[08:09] <jnc> jordan: good question, don't know the answer.  it's presumably over the X protocols
[08:09] <godlygeek> airtonx: 'echo' doesn't change shell variables, just can be used to output them.  to change the value of variable 'var' to value 'val', you can just type 'export var=val' (which will also make variable 'var' available to any new programs you launch)
[08:09] <[Meta] > I installed G++ through the Synaptic Package Viewer, where do I find it now?
[08:09] <Toma-> thinman1189: ok. have you tried looking at the boot options from the installer?
[08:09] <mario_> DBO, still there?
[08:09] <jordan> thanks jnc
[08:09] <DBO> mario_, yeah
[08:09] <jnc> [Meta] : 'g++' command?
[08:09] <godlygeek> [Meta] : open up a terminal and type 'g++'
[08:09] <[Meta] > Okay
[08:09] <Toma-> Fylk: compatibility, not needed, and if youre lucky, it might pop up in backports
[08:09] <Snowman> godlygeek: basically, I upgraded to 7.04, and can't seem to get my wireless behaving.  in knetwork manager, I managed to get online by manually configuring the ssid, key, etc.
[08:09] <|chiz|_> SurfnKid: yeah, its kind of crappy but if you want a composite desktop then that is currently the only solution, the xgl desktop steals the direct rendering, so if you find out you're having trouble with some games or something that needs dri then try logging in with a regular gnome/kde session
[08:09] <[Meta] > Weee.
[08:09] <jordan> Also, is there anything I need to do in order to optimize ubuntu 7.04's networking to utilize more than half of the gigabit LAN
[08:09] <[Meta] > *Errrr
[08:09] <[Meta] > That didn't work
[08:10] <DanaG> I actually like the http://repository.debuntu.org package of gaim -- it has the Bonjour plugin.
[08:10] <jnc> Snowman: oh.  another one of those
[08:10] <mario_> DBO, i downloaded the game, and when I tried to play all i could see wass a black screen
[08:10] <Snowman> however, I can no longer see a list of the wlans in the area.  I need to be able to do that to connect to other lans while travelling for work.
[08:10] <DanaG> That's the iChat-compatible LAN chat.
[08:10] <[Meta] > g++: no input files
[08:10] <jnc> Snowman: look at /etc/network/interfaces, is your wifi listed there?
[08:10] <godlygeek> [Meta] : what are you trying to do with g++, exactly?
[08:10] <Fylk> Toma: I don't see the not needed part. Pidgin has a number of important improvements.
[08:10] <mario_> DBO, i could hear, but i couldn't see a thing
[08:10] <[Meta] > Get it to run, godlygeek
[08:10] <jnc> [Meta] : you just ran it, without any input files
[08:10] <jnc> heh
[08:10] <Snowman> jnc: as per my response to godlygeek, I'm online via the wireless, it's just the list of available networks that's not working.
[08:10] <thinman1189> Toma-:When I tried installing I tried all the options and nothing seemed to work. I just went to try and download 7.04 and I got an error message saying the requested url was not found on the server.
[08:10] <[Meta] > ...Ohhhh
[08:10] <[Meta] > I get it.
[08:10] <[Meta] > Hahahaha
[08:10] <godlygeek> [Meta] : g++ is a c++ compiler:  It did run, it just didn't compile anything
[08:11] <[Meta] > So...
[08:11] <[Meta] > If I wanted to run a cpp file
[08:11] <godlygeek> [Meta] : do you know c++?  ;)
[08:11] <Toma-> Fylk: none of them security related :)
[08:11] <thebillywayne> user_, in the terminal, enter this command: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[08:11] <jnc> Snowman: oh... my bad.   'iwlist scanning' do anything for you?
[08:11] <[Meta] > I'm learning. :P
[08:11] <[Meta] > Anyway.
[08:11] <Toma-> thinman1189: try another mirror?
[08:11] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Good enough.  Create a cpp file, then compile it with 'g++ NAME.cpp'
[08:11] <thinman1189> Toma-:I've tried 4
[08:11] <LH> godlygeek, i tried this "for i in `find . -maxdepth 1 -type d`; do mkdir /share/$i:t; done" but that gave me "mkdir: cannot create directory `/share/./test.dir:t': Read-only file system"
[08:11] <mario_> DBO, has that ever happen to anyone?
[08:11] <user_> thebillywayne, done
[08:11] <Snowman> jnc: as in iwlist wlan0 scanning ?
[08:11] <godlygeek> that will create a file named 'a.out' which you can run with './a.out'
[08:11] <[Meta] > Okay. Hang on. I think I have one somewhere
[08:12] <Fylk> Toma: And? Does not improved usability and function count for something? Is that not the point of software?
[08:12] <Toma-> thinman1189: :S
[08:12] <Snowman> yeah, that lists the usual suspects for this neighborhood.
[08:12] <DBO> mario_, I don't really know whats going on unless it is putting the monitor out of sync for some reason
[08:12] <jnc> [Meta] : the 'make' command by default tries to do the right thing, if you have foobar.cc, then you run 'make foobar.cc' it will invoke the 'g++ -o foobar foobar.cc' you want
[08:12] <jnc> Snowman: yup
[08:12] <Toma-> Fylk: if that was the case, there would be 1000 updates to ubuntu every week
[08:12] <thebillywayne> user_, I've added the resolution you wanted to your xorg.conf.  Open your xorg.conf file using this command: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:12] <jnc> Snowman: checking dmesg for errors if it doesn't work
[08:12] <Snowman> so it's just knetworkmanager that's borked?  I'm wondering if I shouldn't just try ubuntu.  gnome is likely more polished now than when I last ran it.
[08:12] <mario_> DBO, what do you think, do you want me to send you the xorg.conf file?
[08:13] <Jack31> Where does the SVN command store the files it downloads?
[08:13] <Snowman> jnc: yeah, I can see the lans using iwlist
[08:13] <SurfnKid> |chiz|_, sure thing, I guess stealing is what its doing, so it's using direct rendering isnt? just doesnt show direct rendering to work cuz Xgl is on it, sort of right?
[08:13] <Fylk> Toma: Not really. As will all things, there is a limit to reason. Pidgin is a fairly large update, a number of large improvements. Not only that, but gaim is currently violating copywrite laws.
[08:13] <DBO> mario_, actually im sorry I have to do some work =(
[08:13] <thebillywayne> user_, then delete what's in the file and replace it with this pastebin.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19220/
[08:13] <thinman1189> Toma-: Oh well, I've got class in the morning. Thanks for the help.
[08:13] <zie> mario, did you find the problem
[08:13] <user_> thebillywayne: ok, and now?
[08:13] <jnc> Snowman: probably some KDE specific thing, yeah
[08:13] <Skiguy> Hm. new problem. gedit won't run. tried reinstalling wtih now luck. anyone else had this problem? have any ideas?
[08:13] <user_> thebillywayne: ok
[08:13] <Snowman> how's wireless under ubuntu?  better than this shite?
[08:13] <Toma-> Fylk: lets continue in offtopic
[08:13] <Skiguy> no luck*
[08:13] <jnc> Skiguy: if you run 'gedit' from a terminal, is there an error?
[08:13] <Skiguy> nope
[08:13] <Skiguy> nuthin'
[08:14] <godlygeek> LH: uh... my bad, that apparently doesn't work in bash.  i'm very used to the niceties of zsh
[08:14] <Skiguy> doesn't start. no error.
[08:14] <zie> try apt - getit
[08:14] <mario_> DBO, thank's anyway, one final thing: how can I tell some other person to help me without having to tell all the story
[08:14] <tsikis> anyone has any good torrent client to suggest besides azureus and ktorrent?
[08:14] <thebillywayne> user_, after you've replaced what was in the file with what's in the pastebin, save the file and close gedit.  Then restart X by pressing ctrl-alt-backspace.
[08:14] <Skiguy> hm. okay. scratch that
[08:14] <[Meta] > g++: /home/c_to_f.cpp: No such file or directory g++: no input files
[08:14] <|chiz|_> SurfnKid: yeah something like that
[08:14] <DanaG> uTorrent under Wine, perhaps?
[08:14] <Skiguy> running it is okay.
[08:14] <user_> thebillywayne: saved
[08:14] <Flannel> tsikis: bittornado, it's already installed.
[08:14] <zie> is he compilling
[08:14] <Skiguy> trying to sudo open xorg.conf is the no go
[08:14] <DanaG> s/u//
[08:14] <godlygeek> LH: in that case, you should be able to use ${i##*/} instead of $i:t
[08:14] <tsikis> i know but it aint getting much of speed
[08:15] <[Meta] > Meh.
[08:15] <[Meta] > I'll mess with it later.
[08:15] <Snowman> can the ubuntu livecd use/install things like ndiswrapper?
[08:15] <[Meta] > And probably end up using the KDE compiler and environment. :/
[08:15] <godlygeek> [Meta] 
[08:15] <jnc> godlygeek: typo?
[08:15] <rummik> where is inetd or xinetd?
[08:15] <Snowman> if so, then I could likely install ubuntu and see if it's just the kde crap that's the problem.
[08:15] <mario_> DBO, ?
[08:15] <jnc> Snowman: if you like KDE, use it
[08:15] <godlygeek> [Meta] : /home/c_to_f.cpp probably doesn't exist
[08:15] <rummik> or is there something i should be using instead of inetd or xinetd?
[08:15] <jnc> what can I say
[08:15] <orbin> Snowman: tried asking the folk in #kubuntu?
[08:15] <[Meta] > It does exist
[08:16] <godlygeek> [Meta] : you probably meant '~/c_to_f.cpp'
[08:16] <[Meta] > ..
[08:16] <Snowman> orbin: yeah.  they sent me here as they had no idea what was wrong.
[08:16] <[Meta] > What?
[08:16] <godlygeek> ~ expands to your home directory.
[08:16] <jnc> home directory is not /home
[08:16] <godlygeek> either that, or /home/USERNAME/c_to_f.cpp
[08:16] <jnc> it is /home/username
[08:16] <user_> thebillywayne: after I edit the file and save it, what should I do next?
[08:16] <airtonix> Snowman: well i jst looked at the wireless network manager for my lappy...and its seems way more improved than dapper
[08:16] <Snowman> airtonix: kde or gnome?
[08:16] <mraudiofreak> could someone help me work through a "Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost'" for a myth install, i've had it working before but this time it just won't go. The troubleshooting page isn't really working.
[08:16] <SurfnKid> |chiz|_, then thats fine :) dont do much gaming so no biggie I just wanted to get direct rendering: no, under xgl clarified, and you did it :)
[08:16] <zie> home is /home
[08:16] <Jack31> Where Does the SVN subversion command store the source it downlaods?
[08:16] <Toma-> DanaG: youre really quite random :D
[08:17] <[Meta] > Okay.
[08:17] <thebillywayne> user_, restart X.  ctrl-alt-backspace.  when you sign back in, you should see 1280x1024 in the options for Screen Resolution.
[08:17] <[Meta] > I think it compiled
[08:17] <Snowman> zie: home is /home/<username>, no?
[08:17] <zie> i use that alot when proggraming python
[08:17] <[Meta] > Now what?
[08:17] <jnc> mraudiofreak: sounds a lot like MySQL access denied  error
[08:17] <[Meta] > Oh
[08:17] <[Meta] > I see the a.out
[08:17] <airtonix> snowman: i did a netboot install from my isp's local mirror....its running beryl off the bat in grand style
[08:17] <zie> i just use /home
[08:17] <user_> thebillywayne: ok, thank you very much
[08:17] <Skiguy> okay. so "sudo gedit etc/X11/xorg.conf" prompts for a password, hangs for way too long, then resets to the prompt
[08:17] <thebillywayne> user_, be sure to report back, K?
[08:17] <[Meta] > Okay. I get it.
[08:17] <orbin> Snowman: well i'm not sure if knetworkmanager is the same as gnome's, but you're saying you don't see any networks in the applet?
[08:17] <airtonix> snowman: gnome
[08:17] <[Meta] > It worked too. :D
[08:17] <airtonix> snowman: i havent tried yet...
[08:18] <[Meta] > 'Twas just a program to convert celsius to fahrenheit.
[08:18] <Snowman> orbin: yeah.  I can connect, as I'm here using the NIC, but when I try to use the applet to select a different lan, I can't see any.
[08:18] <Skiguy> "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" works fine
[08:18] <DivineMonkey> Anyone know how i would completely reinstall from a bash recovery prompt?
[08:18] <thebillywayne> Skiguy, are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[08:18] <rummik> i'm installing vmware, it wants either inetd or xinetd to be on here. shouldn't they be here? or should i just install one?
[08:18] <Snowman> orbin: which isn't going to help much at work, or at a client site.
[08:18] <godlygeek> [Meta] : A command line tutorial might be in order.  ;)  http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[08:18] <rohan> what does this error signify ? http://rafb.net/p/I09FKq79.html
[08:18] <orbin> Snowman: and iwlist scan shows them?
[08:18] <user_> thebillywayne: sorry man, didn't work
[08:18] <jnc> [Meta] : are you doing this for school? there's seriously better things to learn than C++ on a whim
[08:18] <Snowman> orbin: yep.
[08:18] <|chiz|_> SurfnKid: yeah, hopefully the boys at ati will give us a better driver with hardware composite support and we won't have to run this xgl desktop anymore... till then..
[08:18] <Snowman> orbin: so it's just that applet.
[08:18] <mario_> Who in the world can help me with my 3d games, none of them work, and I have my nvidia drivers installed???????????????????
[08:19] <thebillywayne> user_, did you try Preferences > Screen REsolution?
[08:19] <[Meta] > godlygeek, thanks for that, I wanted to learn it. :/
[08:19] <godlygeek> jnc:  You're wrong, c++ is the most useful thing in the world.  :-p
[08:19] <Toma-> mario_: run one in the terminal and see what the error message is
[08:19] <user_> thebillywayne: yep, same old resolutions
[08:19] <benanzo> Hello, I am interested if stock ubuntu kernel ia32 2.6.20-15-generic has support for EFI in mactels.  I apt-get installed elilo which also pulled down efibootmgr but that requires module efivars, which isn't available.
[08:19] <jnc> godlygeek: it's a joke set unto humanity by B.S.
[08:19] <mario_> toma-, there's no error
[08:19] <[Meta] > Most programs are written in C++
[08:19] <user_> thebillywayne: how can I make sure I did paste the correct lines?
[08:19] <Toma-> mario_: what games are you running?
[08:19] <Snowman> jnc: for a joke, it's quite the useful language.
[08:19] <mario_> toma-, the game starts but I can't see anything, i can hear
[08:19] <godlygeek> [Meta] : if you intend to run linux for the long run, you definitely want to learn how to work your way around a command line.
[08:19] <rummik> should i install inetd or xinetd?
[08:19] <zie> mario: go to System/Administration/Restrected Drivers Manager
[08:20] <[Meta] > I know. x.x
[08:20] <jnc> Snowman: IMO only because Ruby had not been developed yet
[08:20] <mario_> toma-, i've tried them all, from planet penguin racer, to tremulous and it's the same thing
[08:20] <godlygeek> jnc: So are you a C guy or a Java guy, then?  ;-)
[08:20] <[Meta] > I had Linux for about a month last time and I could do some basic stuff.
[08:20] <Toma-> mario_: do you know what pastebin is?
[08:20] <Snowman> jnc: ruby is amusing to me as well.  I do both, as well as some java.
[08:20] <mario_> zie, i talked to you earlier and
[08:20] <zie> enter your password
[08:20] <zie> i think i can help now
[08:20] <thebillywayne> user_, open the file that we just edited.  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Look in Section "Screen" and see if "1280x1024" is in the "Modes" line.
[08:21] <godlygeek> [Meta] : At the very least, understanding how to make and navigate directories, absolutely, relatively, and relatively to ~, will all come in VERY useful.
[08:21] <senectus> Hey peoples :-)
[08:21] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Oh, and list directory contents and such.  ;)
[08:21] <Skiguy> does the remote session use xorg.conf for display settings?
[08:21] <jnc> Snowman: I'm pleased with Ruby.  Nothing in it strikes me as quirky or senseless
[08:21] <Snowman> orbin: suggestions?
[08:21] <thebillywayne> !hi | senectus
[08:21] <ubotu> senectus: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:21] <zie> make shure the video card is set, thats my help. also make shure linuxs supports the video card
[08:21] <mario_> zie, thanks
[08:21] <[Meta] > I know how, godlygeek. I just don't know many shortenings
[08:21] <orbin> Snowman: can you connect to the network if you select "connect to other wireless" and manually enter details?
[08:21] <zie> go to google, type "does linux support "video card name""
[08:21] <zie> welcome
[08:21] <LH> godlygeek, worked great, thx
[08:22] <senectus> When I upgraded to feisty, it tells me it DID upgrade Firefox but if I do a Help -> About is says I'm still using 1.5... any reasons why?
[08:22] <godlygeek> jnc: Admittedly, c++ has some syntactic oddities, but it's quite nice that it compiles down to machine code and runs fast.
[08:22] <Snowman> jnc: all languages have their quirks.  it's just a matter of whether or not yours match the language. ;)  I find c++ logical, java to be it's pale shadow, and ruby to be oddly different, but nice.
[08:22] <thebillywayne> Is the nv driver the best driver for nVidia users?
[08:22] <godlygeek> LH: no prob.
[08:22] <user_> thebillywayne: it is, do I have to restart?
[08:22] <rummik> is there a reason both inetd and xinetd aren't here?
[08:22] <zie> i dont thank so the billy
[08:22] <isilloke> oy
[08:22] <Bradford> Hey, does anyone know how to change the boot priority in Grub???
[08:22] <thebillywayne> user_, well, ctrl-alt-backspace should have done it.
[08:22] <mario_> toma-, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19212/ is it?
[08:22] <Snowman> orbin: no, I don't see anything in the options for wireless, I have to go into "manual configuration" and set up the interface through that.
[08:22] <isilloke> edit menu.lst
[08:22] <thebillywayne> zie, well user_ is using the nv driver for his GeForce3 and he can't even get 1280x1024.
[08:23] <jnc> Bradford: uh, boot "priority" like savedefault?
[08:23] <Snowman> [Meta] : because the universe hates your computer.
[08:23] <thebillywayne> Bradford, change the default number in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[08:23] <orbin> Snowman: again, not sure if it's going to be the same, but what can you see when you right-click on the applet?
[08:23] <godlygeek> so, does this mean that no one in the channel knows anything about power settings?  :)
[08:23] <isilloke> bradford : change the line default =,
[08:23] <[Meta] > Yep. Probably right there, Snowman
[08:23] <godlygeek> [Meta] : You're a girl!?  Marry me. (*giggle*, a rare thing on IRC)
[08:23] <user_> thebillywayne: stupid question: should I have installed the nVidia drivers before doing all the things you told me?
[08:23] <mario_> toma-, is this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19209/?
[08:23] <jnc> godlygeek: hush
[08:23] <Gerro> [Meta] : hmm what exactly is wrong?
[08:23] <Snowman> orbin: the options for the wired card (disconnected), and options to manually configure the interfaces.  which is where I set up wlan0 for my ssid, etc.
[08:23] <[Meta] > godlygeek: So I've noticed. :P
[08:24] <Cosmo_> using the live CD is there away to copy a folder from one partition to another?
[08:24] <B123> How can I backup DVD's? K9 keeps crashing
[08:24] <[Meta] > Nothing, Gerro.
[08:24] <thebillywayne> user_, the nv driver isn't the best option.  Yes.  You should install the nVidia driver.  :0
[08:24] <senectus> When I upgraded to feisty, it tells me it DID upgrade Firefox but if I do a Help -> About is says I'm still using 1.5... any reasons why?
[08:24] <Snowman> orbin: what I used to see was a list of lans, signal strengths, etc.
[08:24] <Toma-> mario_: yep
[08:24] <Bradford> menu.lst has... a bunch of stuff, what exactly do I change? Where can I read more about it, do you know???
[08:24] <Snowman> orbin: however I couldn't connect to them then.  when I manually configured I lost that list, but gained the internet connection. :|
[08:24] <mydnaismine> senectus, jus install it urself
[08:24] <mario_> toma-, what do you see there (like asking to a magician)
[08:24] <rummik> why don't i have inetd or xinetd?
[08:24] <thebillywayne> boy.  I have to choose between my screen's best resolution and being able to playback video.  What a world.
[08:24] <godlygeek> jnc: I swear I'll shut up if someone can tell me a way to make gnome automatically suspend when battery is low.  :)
[08:24] <mraudiofreak> would anyone be able to help me through a mythtv, mysql problem?
[08:24] <Gerro> [Meta] : oh sorry didn't see the reference about connection lag
[08:24] <Toma-> mario_: i see 2 lots of text, and mot much errors
[08:25] <Toma-> *not
[08:25] <user_> thebillywayne: is the nVidia driver intended for 3D support?, I just need correct 2D resolution
[08:25] <[Meta] > godlygeek: Forgot to mention, not old enough to marry you. Sorry. ;)
[08:25] <jnc> godlygeek: the power preference app, I think
[08:25] <senectus> mydnaismine: but the package manager says it IS installed?!
[08:25] <mario_> toma-. what do you suggest?
[08:25] <thebillywayne> user_, not necessarily for 3D support only.  it's just the best driver to use, AFAIK.
[08:25] <B123> anone know ho wto help me
[08:25] <jnc> godlygeek: well I had trouble with some permissions though
[08:25] <mydnaismine> reinstall,remove n put it in again
[08:25] <godlygeek> jnc: Doesn't seem to mention a level at which to shutdown, or commands to run when low...
[08:25] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success. As follow:
[08:25] <longgia2001> $umount /proc/bus/usb
[08:25] <longgia2001> umount: it seems /proc/bus/usb is mounted multiple times
[08:25] <jnc> godlygeek: it would signal the command, and the command would fail to run
[08:26] <rummik> should i install inetd?
[08:26] <[Meta] > godlygeek: Also the link you sent to the tutorial doesn't load.
[08:26] <longgia2001> Can anyone privide me an advice
[08:26] <thebillywayne> user_, try System > Admin' > Restricted Drivers Manager
[08:26] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Hey, I'm barely 21!  You can't be THAT far off.
[08:26] <orbin> Snowman: with right-click?  you don't see this: http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_46333_screen_122_808lo.jpg ?
[08:26] <user_> thebillywayne: I'll try installing it then
[08:26] <Toma-> mario_: look through your log files for errors about GLX, nvidia and so on
[08:26] <[Meta] > godlygeek: Can't I? *was born in '91*
[08:26] <jnc> [Meta] : if you're 27, it kills my theory on females and post-internet computer useage
[08:26] <thebillywayne> user_, you'll probably be glad you did.  :-)  Remember, you've got a workable xorg.conf stored in xorg.conf.backup, in case you need it.  :-)
[08:27] <[Meta] > I'm 15. :P Turning 16.
[08:27] <mrigns_> there are no gurls in the interweb
[08:27] <mario_> toma-, where can I find that?
[08:27] <Snowman> orbin: nope, because I'm using knetworkmanager.  different applet.
[08:27] <[Meta] > So I've heard, mrigns_
[08:27] <airtonix> thie means is now need two more amoedba cells to pass off as a human now? geesh
[08:27] <Toma-> mario_: /var/log
[08:27] <godlygeek> [Meta] : It works for me... do you have the caps right on the URL?  It's probably running off a (case sensitive) unix server.
[08:27] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N (USB connection) working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success. Have you ever experienced this.  Is there any advice
[08:27] <[Meta] > I copy pasted what you sent
[08:27] <jnc> [Meta] : I wish my kid sister had an interest in something other than myspace.  kudos to you
[08:27] <Toma-> mario_: namely Xorg.0.log (look for lines that start with (EE)) and the end part of dmesg
[08:28] <user_> thebillywayne: I appreaciate all your help
[08:28] <[Meta] > jnc: I don't even have a MySpace. :)
[08:28] <Bradford> thebillwayne, menu.lst has... a bunch of stuff, what exactly do I change? Where can I read more about it, do you know???
[08:28] <rummik> should i install inetd?
[08:28] <user_> thebillywayne: going to restart, be back in a minute
[08:28] <Snowman> silly question, but what's myspace?
[08:28] <thebillywayne> user_, no problem.  wish I could help more.
[08:28] <thebillywayne> Snowman, it's a web community.
[08:28] <[Meta] > Snowman: Networking site. I honestly can't see the point to it
[08:28] <Snowman> (I steer clear of that end of the net)
[08:28] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Wait 10 years then marry me.  :-p, it'll be less creepy when 25 and 31!
[08:28] <Snowman> [Meta] : ah, gotcha.  agreed.
[08:29] <orbin> Snowman: yeah ... what i was gonna suggest was to tweak your interfaces file.  sometimes, from what i hear - the gnome applet can conflict with the network configuration thingo, and commenting out everything except the lines referring to lo can help.
[08:29] <jnc> [Meta] : oh my god!   someone give you a golden something.  a giant ladel of achievement.   how do you resist the temptation to lolicon with the other emo's of the corn?
[08:29] <dhorn> how do I run a .sh file?
[08:29] <[Meta] > Haha, godlygeek
[08:29] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success. Can any one to give me help?
[08:29] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Seriously, though, no idea why the link doesn't work for you...
[08:29] <Snowman> orbin: hrm...  there's no gnome on this machine at all though.
[08:29] <thebillywayne> dhorn, chmod +x it and then ./file.sh
[08:29] <godlygeek> [Meta] : But any random "shell tutorial" that you google for should give you about as much.
[08:29] <[Meta] > jnc: Haha. I get picked on just for not having one... and being a nerd at school. :P
[08:29] <dhorn> thebillywayne, thaks
[08:29] <dhorn> thx
[08:29] <[Meta] > Okay. :)
[08:29] <rummik> is there any reason inetd doesn't exist on my system?
[08:29] <airtonix> thebillywayne: aweb community ithink not! its a group of highschool ropouts licking eachother with foul websites
[08:29] <mario_> toma-, men, there's a lot of text, should I paste bin both?
[08:30] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Then move on to the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide, because shell scripting will get you far on a linux system.  ;)
[08:30] <dhorn> thebillywayne, one more question, when I ctrl+z a process in the console, how do I either bring it back up or sto pit?
[08:30] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N (USB connection) working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success.
[08:30] <DanaG> Oh, and I think this of MySpace:  <BLINK>My god, pink text on purple backgrounds?  What are you thinking?  Or maybe you weren't thinking at all.....!</BLINK>
[08:30] <[Meta] > I'll try. :P
[08:30] <airtonix> DanG: exackery
[08:30] <thebillywayne> dhorn, not familiar with ctrl-z.  but you can stop any process with ctrl-c.
[08:30] <Gerro> [Meta] : if your searching for linux tutorial might want to read the documentation at www.linux.org it is easy reading and lot of info
[08:30] <Toma-> mario_: no, just look for the errors
[08:30] <[Meta] > Can't guarantee I'll understand it though, godlygeek
[08:30] <dhorn> ctrl-z hides the process
[08:30] <DanaG> At least use Facebook -- no hideous styles there.
[08:30] <jnc> [Meta] : keep the disco dancing, or the latin saying goes "In myspace emo sum"
[08:30] <Snowman> [Meta] : just remember this.  The geek shall inherit the earth once the rest realize they can't live without our tech support ;)
[08:30] <ThomasZ> hi all
[08:30] <dhorn> I don't knwo how to get it back up
[08:30] <ThomasZ> Alsa found the wrong audio card (forgot to load the module).  How do I tell alsa to search again?
[08:30] <Cosmo_> using the live CD is there away to copy a folder from one partition to another?
[08:31] <rummik> is there any reason inetd doesn't exist on my system?
[08:31] <godlygeek> [Meta] : And, as a side note, Kudos to you on running linux.  :-p, when I tried it in high school... ahh, debian sid... now, THAT was a disaster.  I could get my modem OR my sound card to work, but not with the same kernel... lmao
[08:31] <[Meta] > Indeed, Snowman. :)
[08:31] <mario_> toma-, in the xorg.o.log i found some, paste bin or here?
[08:31] <bindigoat> is ubuntu debian ?
[08:31] <Arrick> yes
[08:31] <godlygeek> bindigoat: It's based off debian, but not the same.
[08:31] <Toma-> mario how many lines is it?
[08:31] <orbin> Snowman: *shrug* i'd try it for the heck of it.
[08:31] <[Meta] > godlygeek: I thank my dad for that one. I used to watch him reinstall Windows every few months. Then I got my Ubuntu CD at an IT convention.
[08:32] <Snowman> godlygeek: when I was in high school, cd's weren't invented yet.  which made installing redhat from a stack of floppys as tall as my mini-tower somewhat annoying :D
[08:32] <airtonix> Cosmo_:  indeed there is
[08:32] <Toma-> mario_:  how many lines is it?
[08:32] <Snowman> orbin: may I msg?
[08:32] <godlygeek> Snowman: cd's were invented, but i didn't own a burner, so I had to pay the shipping.  ;)
[08:32] <mario_> toma-, nine
[08:32] <Cosmo_> airtonix: how do I go about doing it?
[08:32] <jnc> Snowman: lol @ CDs.   kids these days don't know what "Vinyl" is
[08:32] <airtonix> Cosmo_: its a simple case of mounting those parittions to existing folderss and wrinting then doing the copy from there
[08:33] <[Meta] > I know what vinyl is.
[08:33] <airtonix> Cosmo_: ahem...excuse the foul texct
[08:33] <Snowman> jnc: I still have/use some vinyl.  most of my tapes have died of old age though.
[08:33] <[Meta] > We have heaps of vinyl records in the lounge room. :)
[08:33] <thebillywayne> vinyl is what I cut.
[08:33] <rummik> is there any reason inetd doesn't exist on my system?
[08:33] <Gerro> [Meta]  IT convention? wow lucky you all the IT here are still in stone age or something
[08:33] <orbin> Snowman: sure
[08:33] <Toma-> mario_: pastebin
[08:33] <zie> anyone know a program that i can record my desktop with
[08:33] <airtonix> rummik: its not needed...maybe
[08:33] <Arrick> hi all, I am using proftpd, and I have a user named ftp in a group bassgoon, I would like to allow the user to create but not modify files, how would one do this?
[08:33] <Snowman> 8"?!?  now _THAT_ is before my time.  earliest I had was tape on my vic 20 and cbm pet, then 5.25" on my c64 and 128
[08:33] <Phylo> hi, will somene help me get my laptop on the internet?
[08:33] <jnc> 1.5...  wtf, minidisc?
[08:33] <[Meta] > Gerro: Can you reword that?
[08:33] <Arrick> its a ubuntu 6.06.1 lamp server
[08:33] <thebillywayne> !istanbul | zie
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <[Meta] > Yeah.
[08:34] <godlygeek> jnc: I'm quite used to linux/unix, but quite new to gnome/nautilus/metacity, usually preferring to immediately switch to using startx/fluxbox - so, on THAT note, if there were some kind of permission problems launching a suspend script for me, is there anywhere where error messages would be logged?
[08:34] <[Meta] > It's the new one. >_>
[08:34] <thebillywayne> zie, istanbul
[08:34] <[Meta] > Typo for 3 1/2"
[08:34] <airtonix> Phylo: type, specs and all please
[08:34] <[Meta] > I think...
[08:34] <zie> it records
[08:34] <jnc> godlygeek: no, that's the sad thing.
[08:34] <[Meta] > I remember the 8" floppy disks
[08:34] <thebillywayne> !info instanbul
[08:34] <ubotu> Package instanbul does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:34] <[Meta] > Still have some somewhere.
[08:34] <rummik> airtonix: so if something needs it that i want, i should go ahead and install it? would there be something else that does the same job that's already on here?
[08:34] <mario_> toma-, there you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19222/
[08:34] <thebillywayne> !info istanbul
[08:34] <[Meta] > Got a 16KB stick of RAM in my room. :)
[08:34] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-3build1 (feisty), package size 46 kB, installed size 376 kB
[08:34] <godlygeek> rummik: If i had to guess, you have xinetd and not reg'lar inetd.
[08:34] <zie>  !info istanbul
[08:35] <jnc> godlygeek: the google trail goes like this, figure out what dbus / hal thing is used for suspend to ram, then read more about it and how to send that message by hand, do it and run the daemons in debug mode
[08:35] <rummik> godlygeek: i don't see that either
[08:35] <Phylo> I plugged it in via ethernet cable (JUST installed Ubuntu) and tried to add a program wifi-radar but it failed to download anything.  ok specs:
[08:35] <zie> umm so download  istanbul
[08:35] <Toma-> mario_: ahh, theyre ok errors. everyone gets them... disregard them
[08:35] <Phylo> Toshiba Satellite... um
[08:35] <[Meta] > Anyway, I need to eat.
[08:35] <rummik> godlygeek: nor does vmware >.<
[08:35] <Phylo> what else?
[08:35] <airtonix> rummik: well ive done a neboot install it requires that so yeah if your puttin in somethigna that requires it put it in or it wont run most likley
[08:35] <thebillywayne> zie, sudo aptitude install istanbul
[08:35] <jnc> godlygeek: the end answer is you edit some kind of funky permissions file that describes which users are permitted to signal events that take down the box (i.e. suspend)
[08:35] <mario_> toma-, i don't have others
[08:35] <jsizzle> anyone remember how you make sudo sticky in a shell script? isn't it like sudo su something or other?
[08:35] <Phylo> going through a router, dsl internet
[08:35] <zie> ok
[08:35] <godlygeek> jnc: I'm pretty set up for that - I can run the dbus command with dbus-send
[08:35] <zie> ok thanks man
[08:36] <airtonix> Phylo: turn it upside down read it undernetah
[08:36] <zie> so i can make like a video tutorial
[08:36] <Phylo> ... what the serial number?
[08:36] <mario_> toma-, man, I think no one has the same problem
[08:36] <jnc> [Meta] -[Eating] : I started when I was 6 (i'm 23 now)...  so...
[08:36] <godlygeek> jnc: That makes me think that any IPC stuff going on behind the scenes should just be working
[08:36] <airtonix> Phylo: no the model number
[08:36] <zie> it will record off desktop too, such as the internet browser
[08:36] <godlygeek> jnc: Which makes me think that it is an acpi/acpid/HAL problem (one of those, ;))
[08:36] <jnc> godlygeek: I'm not terribly motivated to revisit this particular issue, sorry mate
[08:36] <Snowman> jnc: started what.  programming?  or computer use?
[08:36] <airtonix> Phylo: i used to have  toshiba dynaboook t4/410pme
[08:36] <Gerro> [Meta] : oh you said you got an Ubuntu cd at an IT convention, that's nice is all. which desktop manager do you use I'm curious
[08:36] <thebillywayne> zie, yes.  you can annotate with Beryl if you like.
[08:37] <rummik> airtonix: i just tried installing inetd, it said the package doesn't exist. however, xinetd is installing just fine
[08:37] <jnc> Snowman: dos commands, BASIC scripting
[08:37] <godlygeek> jnc: thanks anyway, then.
[08:37] <zie> ok
[08:37] <airtonix> tyr this
[08:37] <Snowman> jnc: my old man got me started in BASIC and ASM on a commodore cbm when I was 6 or so.  kept me quiet while he graded papers at the high school he worked for.
[08:37] <airtonix> rummik: thry this: sudo apt-cache search inetd
[08:37] <err0r> .join #ubuntu-fr
[08:37] <airtonix> rummik: or replace inetd with xinetd
[08:37] <jnc> assembler at young age, I envy you
[08:37] <zie> whats this mean
[08:37] <zie> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:37] <zie> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[08:37] <jnc> it's hard to pick up with my old fart mind now
[08:37] <airtonix> rummik: or not since the keywords are there anyway'
[08:37] <Snowman> scarily enough, back then those seemed like hella nice machines ;)
[08:38] <rummik> airtonix: xinetd seems to be working now
[08:38] <Phylo> ... ok:  mine's a Toshiba Satellite A105-S2061 model:
[08:38] <jnc> zie: cache open failed?   eewww
[08:38] <Phylo> may I ask why you need the model number?
[08:38] <Snowman> had their own monitor and everything, didn't even have to hook it to a tv!
[08:38] <zie> lol damn
[08:38] <jnc> zie: did you run out of disk space?
[08:38] <airtonix> Phylo: cool now hunt down the pdf from the web for that model
[08:38] <zie> i dont think soo know
[08:38] <zie> can i make space
[08:38] <Skiguy> so. anyone know how to change the resolution of a vnc session from win to ubuntu?
[08:38] <Snowman> jnc: assembler only because it was the only way to get a cbm or a pet to do anything useful.
[08:38] <rummik> airtonix: would it be possible that someone forgot to put that package on the install cd?
[08:39] <zie> do i fix it in the terminal
[08:39] <jnc> Snowman: yea.  man, when Hypercard hit the well-equipped Apple IIe labs at my school, I really kicked some ass learning about it.  I'm glad Ubuntu has Ruby language, it's much better these days to get started
[08:39] <mario_> toma-, any ideas?
[08:40] <Toma-> mario_: no sorry, ive got a couple problems here atm so im njo much use right now
[08:40] <jnc> zie: uh, we could like tell you what to type
[08:40] <jnc> it's not much fun that way
[08:40] <Snowman> jnc: I'm finding ruby on rails to be nice, yeah.  currently working the kinks out of a fleet/inventory management barcoding package for work.  should keep the loss of gear/material in check.
[08:40] <zie> lol i know shell a little. but yes go ahead
[08:40] <DigitalNinja> Just installed dual boot with Windows XP and Ubuntu. Windows doesn't boot. Any idea?
[08:40] <demonspork> I just installed Ubuntu on a SATA HD from a SATA DVD drive.  When the system booted, it just said "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"  and when I boot back onto the live CD, I can see that everything is there as it should be.  How do I get this thing to boot?
[08:40] <Coole^> yt
[08:40] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:41] <mario_> toma-, do you know how in the world can I get this solved, who can i contact or something?
[08:41] <jnc> demonspork: sacrifice the lamb
[08:41] <[Meta] -[Eating] > <jnc> [Meta] -[Eating] : I started when I was 6 (i'm 23 now)...  so <-- Started what?
[08:41] <|chiz|_> demonspork, do you have just the one harddrive?
[08:41] <Snowman> [Meta] : programming I think he said.
[08:41] <jnc> [Meta] : dos commands (to run games), BASIC scripting
[08:41] <demonspork> 2
[08:41] <demonspork> no RAID configured
[08:41] <[Meta] > Ohhh.
[08:41] <bullgard4> The file 'acpiconf.c' is not on my computer. See  (http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/acpi/acpibif.c.) Where can I find it?
[08:41] <zie> yes tell me
[08:41] <[Meta] > I started BASIC when I was 10, jnc.
[08:41] <jnc> Treasure Mountain and Reader Rabit ftw
[08:42] <jnc> cool
[08:42] <[Meta] > And HTML too.
[08:42] <jnc> ah, were you the only dork who had a website?
[08:42] <[Meta] > Haha.
[08:42] <jnc> yea me too
[08:42] <|chiz|_> demonspork, you could try switching which drive is booting first incase its reading the wrong one
[08:42] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> guys, can i use the deamon tools to load a slax image instead of the cd or usb? :P
[08:42] <Snowman> jnc: hell no.  Space quest!
[08:42] <Snowman> or zork.
[08:42] <[Meta] > I'm still the only one in my IT class that can do HTML, jnc
[08:42] <demonspork> the BIOS doesn't allow me to pick which one
[08:42] <jnc> Snowman: true dat
[08:42] <zie> jnc: i must know what to type
[08:42] <DigitalNinja> What should menu.list look like for booting windows?
[08:42] <|chiz|_> demonspork, what is on the other one?
[08:42] <catid> DigitalNinja: you will have to do extra work to add an entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst for windows xp's bootloader in its own partition.. and if i'm wrong there you will need to let winxp's bootloader run *first* and use a patch to it to let you select linux
[08:42] <jnc> zie: 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:42] <demonspork> |chiz| and theoretically, if one boot device fails, it moves to the next
[08:43] <zie> i have a project with desktop tutorials i must finish, and i cant install the program
[08:43] <Snowman> !!!!!!
[08:43] <demonspork> |chiz| The other one is empty
[08:43] <zie> ok
[08:43] <jnc> zie: though I figure you might have trashed your /var/cache/apt
[08:43] <jnc> or something
[08:43] <Snowman> I think my cat just raped my girlfriend's kitten. :(
[08:43] <catid> DigitalNinja: try googling from there..  should turn up something
[08:43] <|chiz|_> demonspork, ok, you're right but try unplugging the empty one
[08:43] <mario_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!opengl textures in nvidia nv18 problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:43] <zie> ohhh well i havent touch anything
[08:43] <[Meta] > Shall update all that crap later. :/
[08:44] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:44] <zie> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure
[08:44] <Caplain> mario_, was that spamulent flurry necessary?
[08:44] <demonspork> |chiz| I put an unformatted NTFS partition at the beginning of the drive in question, would that cause anything to be out of whack?
[08:44] <[Meta] > 202MB of updates and my connection goes at 30kb/s max.
[08:44] <Snowman> </jesus but I didn't need to hear that.>
[08:44] <jnc> zie: i don't know, do what it says man. heh
[08:44] <DigitalNinja> catid: Windows was installed before we installed Ubuntu. We resized the Windows partition and put linux on the back side
[08:44] <Skiguy> okay - simpler question. why can't gedit get the permissions it needs to open restricted files "sudo gedit [anything] " won't start. no error. nuthin.
[08:44] <jnc> [Meta] : bad mirror?
[08:44] <[Meta] > Nah.
[08:44] <jnc> say it ain't modem
[08:44] <[Meta] > Slow internet. :P
[08:44] <Flannel> Skiguy: Try `gksu "gedit file"`
[08:44] <orbin> Skiguy: ... you should be using gksudo with gui apps
[08:44] <zie> k
[08:44] <DigitalNinja> catid: The grub boot menu shows xp but when we select it it doesn't boot
[08:44] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> hello..............................................
[08:44] <zie> but it doesnt say anything
[08:44] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> guys, can i use the deamon tools to load a slax image instead of the cd or usb? :P
[08:45] <catid> DigitalNinja: sounds like Windows should be your bootloader then, yes?  i used to run a winxp system dual booted like that.. i had found a patched windows boot loader for it
[08:45] <godlygeek> jnc: kids these days don't know what a modem is!
[08:45] <[Meta] > 256kbps ADSL connection, jnc
[08:45] <zie> and im new to linux soo
[08:45] <jnc> Tee Cee Pee over Cup O' Joe
[08:45] <zie> lol a modem
[08:45] <|chiz|_> demonspork, I don't think so, when you bois trys to boot the disk it will just read the boot sector of the disc which should have then instruction on where to find grub and how to boot it and then grub knows how to boot your other operating systems
[08:45] <jnc> i.e. go for cup of coffe while you wait to download
[08:45] <[Meta] > I had dial up for 7 years. o.O
[08:45] <mario_> caplain, man, I've been here 3 hours trying to get some help. do I look desperated?
[08:45] <catid> DigitalNinja: oh you've already replaced the bootloader with GRUB hrm..
[08:45] <Snowman> godlygeek: sure they do.  it's that thing the cable plugs into that's always on and lets them get pr0n at 200k/s+
[08:45] <DigitalNinja> catid: No. Grub should be the boot loader
[08:45] <[Meta] > Actually, more like 5 years
[08:45] <[Meta] > 1997-2002, RIP dialup.
[08:45] <catid> DigitalNinja: eh, works both ways from personal experience.. GRUB is nicer as a primary loader though
[08:46] <godlygeek> [Meta] : probably 56k, at least... i started with 4.8 k...  lolz
[08:46] <Caplain> mario_, whats the issue?
[08:46] <[Meta] > I started with 56k. :/
[08:46] <Snowman> godlygeek: 300baud c64 FTW!
[08:46] <Skiguy> thanks for the tip orbin. what's gksudo?
[08:46] <catid> DigitalNinja: does this help?  http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[08:46] <[Meta] > But that's only coz my family wasn't deeply into this whole "internet" thing at first.
[08:46] <godlygeek> [Meta] : I win the "who's older" competition, I guess.
[08:46] <Snowman> you dialed in with that thing, then watched as it printed a screen of text every 2min from the bbs :P
[08:46] <[Meta] > I'm going to die when I have to move.
[08:46] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:46] <Snowman> big honkin cradle you had to stick the fscking phone into.
[08:47] <godlygeek> Snowman: thank god for vi.  works just as well at 300 baud.
[08:47] <[Meta] > We won't have the internet when I move. ;-;
[08:47] <godlygeek> Snowman: at least you have time to think about what to type, lol
[08:47] <[Meta] > Meaning I should stock up on like... books and stuff.
[08:47] <zie> JNC: hey jnc i got it
[08:47] <mario_> caplain, when I start a 3d game(because I've tried sooo many) the screen goes black and I can't do a singel thing
[08:47] <orbin> Skiguy: sudo for gui apps. sorry - can't give you the technical side of things. :)
[08:47] <zie> Thanks man
[08:47] <jnc> zie: you figured it out, don't thank me
[08:47] <zie> lol
[08:47] <Caplain> mario_, hmm
[08:47] <orbin> Skiguy: except that's it's safer.
[08:47] <zie> i had to login as superuser
[08:47] <|chiz|_> [Meta] , there is such thing as satalite internet, kind of pricy though
[08:47] <Caplain> sounds like a driver problem :)
[08:47] <jnc> I'm so tired and ornery, all I can say is good job man
[08:48] <Skiguy> well, gksudo gives me a gedit window
[08:48] <ryks> hello all
[08:48] <Madpilot> [Meta] , if you just want to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic - we try to keep this channel support-oriented. Thanks.
[08:48] <zie> k
[08:48] <Skiguy> it's thinking about if it wants to actually open the document
[08:48] <[Meta] > Nah |chiz|_ we won't be able to get the internet when we move into my nan's house. x_X
[08:48] <Snowman> godlygeek: true enough, but you also had time enough to nod off before the rest of the file displayed.
[08:48] <[Meta] > Mmkay.
[08:48] <jnc> [Meta] : I am missing the context here, you moving very far away from internet?
[08:48] <Snowman> godlygeek: likewise, getting a "NO CARRIER" in the middle of posting a file or msg to the bbs was infuriating.
[08:48] <mario_> caplain, do you see? seems like an unsolvable problem?
[08:49] <Caplain> mario_, no such thing as an unsolvable problem
[08:49] <godlygeek> Snowman: hehe, never had to worry THAT much about it... i started really using computers during windows 3.0/3.1/3.11 and the very end of the BBS era.
[08:49] <Caplain> mario_, do you have to restart the computer when the screen goes blank?
[08:49] <mario_> caplain, you tell me
[08:49] <zie> Caplain, i think its his graphics card
[08:49] <ryks> how can i change the desktop menu with other ?
[08:50] <ryks> in ubuntu?
[08:50] <Snowman> godlygeek: I had a hideously noisy phone line back then (retrofitted party line), and as modems were "new", it wasn't really a dependable idea yet.
[08:50] <mario_> caplain, no restart the pc but the session with ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:50] <Caplain> mario_, (command for game) > debug.txt
[08:50] <mario_> caplain, I can hear the game sound but I cant see
[08:50] <godlygeek> Snowman: haha, noisy phone lines... i remember having to deal with those.  fortunately, i lived in the middle of nowhere, so phone service was just primo.
[08:50] <Caplain> then cat the debug file
[08:50] <Caplain> mario_, you might have your resolution set too high
[08:50] <ryks> i just looking to a moving center menu
[08:51] <Caplain> what game is it?
[08:51] <mario_> caplain, what other choise do I have when I can't see a thing
[08:51] <Snowman> godlygeek: that was my problem.  the telco service office was 80km away, so they got to you when they felt like it.
[08:51] <mario_> caplain, I've tried tremulous, penguin race, trigger.....
[08:52] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:52] <mario_> caplain, maybe i'll have to restart the session, so i'll be back
[08:52] <Caplain> ok
[08:53] <godlygeek> Snowman: even with cable, my parents still get that... I'm sitting pretty with comcast at a 8Mb / 3Mb connection, and they never top 140 kbps because their cable company doesn't know what resegmenting is or why it would ever be necessary
[08:53] <MSTK> can anyone tell me any programs that can help me increase productivity while in the Command Line environment?
[08:53] <MSTK> ie, screen
[08:53] <godlygeek> MSTK: read more about screen.
[08:53] <godlygeek> MSTK: much more.
[08:53] <Snowman> 5mbit down, 3mbit up adsl here.
[08:53] <godlygeek> MSTK: it's the MOST useful command line tool.
[08:53] <Snowman> it's not bad.
[08:53] <zie> Anyone heard of ScreenCast
[08:53] <Snowman> it's oversold though, so I only see my peak speeds in off hours. :\
[08:54] <MSTK> godlygeek - I've read up quite a lot about screen and I think I can use it efficiently.  loading the same session on different physical terminals (home, school, etc.) is nice
[08:54] <MSTK> anything else, though?
[08:54] <godlygeek> MSTK: seriously, though...  know how to use perl/python one liners...
[08:54] <godlygeek> MSTK: and, i'd very seriously suggest switching from bash to zsh if you're a console cowboy.
[08:54] <godlygeek> i'll never go back.  :)
[08:54] <Flannel> MSTK: screen really is the most productive thing you'll get.  Everything else is just individual programs.
[08:54] <commonlyUNIQU3> anyone try pidgin 2.0.0 final yet (on Feisty) ???
[08:55] <MSTK> I'm relatively new to this console thing.  I just only recently realized that I could do all of my daily computing activities on the Command Line, and more efficiently, too.
[08:55] <MSTK> I'll heck out zsh.
[08:55] <MSTK> *check
[08:55] <ryks> hello can i change my desktop bar with other in ubuntu (moving style?_)??
[08:55] <Toma-> Anyone know how to flush /var/log/messages?
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> i will reboot in linux now hehe, hope it works
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> lol
[08:55] <TheDebugger> Anyone has a problem with amarok where the track name at the bottom left is showed as html?
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> if i dont come back
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> i would be deaddddddddddddddd
[08:56] <orbin> MSTK: someone suggested cowsay to me a long time ago. :)
[08:56] <MSTK> what is it?
[08:56] <KuzuX> do u know any repositories except the official one?
[08:56] <godlygeek> MSTK: it's incredible... especially if you like dramatic, overstylized prompts! http://www.aperiodic.net/phil/prompt/
[08:56] <|chiz|> TheDebugger: I've seen that before
[08:56] <TheDebugger> :/
[08:57] <godlygeek> MSTK: cowsay just takes input sent to its stdin and displays it in a speech bubble attached to a cow.  :)
[08:57] <MSTK> godlygeek - ah.  definitely the most productive program I shall ever have.
[08:57] <|chiz|> TheDebugger: not sure why that is though
[08:57] <godlygeek> MSTK: lol, i'm not the one who suggested it, just explaining it!
[08:57] <MSTK> heh, thanks.  It's an amusing concept.
[08:57] <|chiz|> TheDebugger: I thought it was xml, not html though
[08:57] <zcat[1] > apt-get moo
[08:57] <citybird> hi, does anyone know where i can find info on making a mail virus, spam scan machine that then forwards everything to another machine?
[08:57] <commonlyUNIQU3> anyone try pidgin 2.0.0 final yet (on Feisty) ???
[08:58] <Flannel> commonlyUNIQU3: pidgin final isn't in Feisty.
[08:58] <HKJGN_> RAGH!\
[08:58] <HKJGN_> X.x
[08:58] <HKJGN_> linux hates me
[08:58] <Flannel> citybird: please troll elsewhere; thanks.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft i used this to try and install WoW and get it to work
[08:59] <Bradford> Does anyone know where to get PPC Feisty???
[08:59] <godlygeek> MSTK: but, for actual productivity, definitely zsh. Check out this for a quick list of some neat things it can do: http://rayninfo.co.uk/tips/zshtips.html
[08:59] <HKJGN_> then when i run wine, i get a mile long list of errors
[08:59] <cntb> \o
[08:59] <MSTK> godlygeek - will do.  So this will replace bash and gnome-terminal for me?
[08:59] <HKJGN_> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/hikyuu/.wine/drive_c/World of Warcraft', starting in the Windows directory.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Installer.exe": Module not foun
[08:59] <citybird> Flannel: not trolling. serious question. cant find anything relating to ubuntu mailscan server installs
[08:59] <HKJGN_> X.x
[08:59] <cntb> I have an issue with konqueror find files /folders
[09:00] <demon_spork> Is there anything special that needs to be done to get Ubuntu to boot off a SATA drive?
[09:00] <mario_> caplain, still there?
[09:00] <mcquaid> whats packages provides perl modules like (netPacket::Ethernet, IP,TCP, Unicode::string)?
[09:00] <HKJGN_> demon_spork: im running on SATAS, dont worry
[09:00] <cntb> fin s nothing in place of existant files IOw non-functional .now in dapper
[09:00] <godlygeek> MSTK: no, just bash, the shell.  For a terminal, I'd actually recommend xterm.  It's ugly out of the box, but i find it less intrusive than gnome terminal, and i think it takes less space, when configured nicely.
[09:00] <demon_spork> HKJGN_ did you just click install and it worked?
[09:00] <Flannel> Bradford: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/
[09:01] <airtonix> Phylo: got your manual yet?
[09:01] <ryks> enyone?
[09:01] <Phylo> if I install Ubuntu Edgy Eft can I upgrade to the new one later without reinstalling Ubunut?
[09:01] <godlygeek> MSTK: the only feature gnome-terminal really has on it is tabbing, and you've already mentioned that you use screen, so no need for tabs.  :)
[09:01] <HKJGN_> demon_spork: it recognized my hdds without any extra effort, yes
[09:01] <Phylo> airtonix:  not looking for a .pdf I can't view them, but
[09:01] <ryks> plz just a little question?
[09:01] <thebillywayne> Phylo, yes.  but you're better off clean installing Feisty.
[09:01] <ryks> just one :)
[09:01] <crimsun> Bradford: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/
[09:01] <Phylo> I reconnected with an ethernet cable and am downloading some apps such as wifi
[09:01] <HKJGN_> can someone help me find out why im so incapable of following a simple tutorial?
[09:01] <citybird> i need to create  a mailscan head that forwards clean mail to the mailboxes on another mailserver.
[09:01] <BHSPitMonkey> is it possible to induce the monitor going into idle mode?
[09:01] <HKJGN_> can someone help me find out why im so incapable of following a simple tutorial?
[09:01] <MSTK> godlygeek - how would I go about changing the shells that load up in xterm/gnome-terminal?
[09:01] <Phylo> *wireless assistant*
[09:01] <demon_spork> HKJGN_, it recognizes mine just fine, installs Ubuntu just fine.  It just never manages to boot off the install
[09:02] <Flannel> citybird: Oh.  Hah.  You should punctuate better ;)  Uh, You'd need some mail thing, (postfix/whatever).  Courier might have something like that already.
[09:02] <BHSPitMonkey> HKJGN_, no need to repeat yourself.
[09:02] <godlygeek> MSTK: chsh, from a shell, changes your default shell.
[09:02] <Jack31> whats the paste link
[09:02] <HKJGN_> demon_spork: not sure after that
[09:02] <MSTK> godlygeek - thanks.
[09:02] <godlygeek> mmhmm
[09:02] <cntb> HKJGN_: be pecific on issue
[09:02] <HKJGN_> BHSPitMonkey: accident
[09:02] <mario_> Caplain, the debug.txt file didn't appear
[09:02] <BHSPitMonkey> understood
[09:02] <MSTK> hm...is there any way I could configure xterm to run green font on black background?
[09:03] <Cosmo_> I am using the live CD, I need to copy a folder from hdc3 to hdc2 how exactly do I go about doing this?
[09:03] <Phylo> any suggestions on a program to automatically configure my wireless connection?
[09:03] <MSTK> just for the "1337 ha><" effect.
[09:03] <Jack31> Does anyone know how i can fix this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19226/
[09:03] <godlygeek> oh, and MSTK: Use either vim or emacs (but especially vim) because you'll learn to be more productive in them than in any other editor.
[09:03] <Jack31> I get it when trying to install Pango
[09:03] <Flannel> citybird: fetchmail/procmail could do it even, I guess.  I don't imagine you'll find a pre-fab solution, you'll have to hack something together.
[09:03] <MSTK> I'm a huge VIM fan myself.
[09:03] <godlygeek> sweet.
[09:03] <Italy> Hi
[09:03] <duck3y> Cosmo: cp <folder> <folder>
[09:03] <cntb> Phylo:  wlassistant
[09:03] <mario_> caplain, well, there is the file, but it doesn't have anything on it
[09:03] <duck3y> Cosmo_: cp <folder> <folder>
[09:03] <HKJGN_> cntb i was using this tutorial to install WoW on Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft , everyone says "its that simple, its that simple" but then Wine spouts out errors like this "Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[09:03] <HKJGN_> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[09:03] <HKJGN_> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/hikyuu/.wine/drive_c/World of Warcraft', starting in the Windows directory.
[09:03] <HKJGN_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Installer.exe": Module not found"
[09:03] <godlygeek> MSTK: may i priv message you?
[09:03] <cntb> in internet icons
[09:04] <MSTK> godlygeek - no need to ask permission
[09:04] <godlygeek> MSTK: netiquette.  ;)
[09:04] <Phylo> cntb:  alright, I'll check it out
[09:04] <Italy> Hi Mario. are you italian?
[09:04] <Phylo> cntb:  that one didn't work before though...
[09:04] <HKJGN_> cntb: and im losing all possible control over my willingness to kill my pc
[09:04] <MSTK> godlygeek - well, in that case, go right ahead =)
 cntb: and im losing all possible control over my willingness to kill my pc <<< lack logic
[09:05] <airtonix> phylo: i recommend you get that manual, it will help you identify exactly what hardware you have, without ityour only guessin
[09:05] <Cosmo_> duck3y: but how do I tell it from one partition to another?
[09:05] <Caplain> mario_, did you set up the nvidia drivers in xorg.conf?
[09:05] <HKJGN_> cntb: honestly, i doubt i have any logic left, i just want my outcomes to be similar to the ones in these tutorials :(
[09:05] <mario_> caplain, tell me how
[09:05] <Phylo> airtonix:  alright fine, but I can't view pdf, let me know if you know of something for me, meanwhile I'll search
[09:06] <duck3y> Cosmo_: cp /media/partition/folder /media/partition/folder
[09:06] <Caplain> mario_, apt-get install nvidia-glx i think it is
[09:06] <HKJGN_> everyones all "oh wow, that was so easy!" and mines like "DEATH! NO WOW FOR YOU!"
[09:06] <Jaesang1> hi?
[09:06] <HKJGN_> ;_;
[09:06] <duck3y> Cosmo_: <from folder> <to folder>
[09:06] <|chiz|> HKJGN: your computer is just trying to do you and your social life a favor
[09:06] <Flannel> HKJGN_: you might ask in #winehq, they do miracles with wine.
[09:06] <Jaesang1> can you guys help me?
[09:06] <Jaesang1> i have 2 harddrives
[09:06] <Cosmo_> duck3y: thanks
[09:06] <Jaesang1> and i've just installed ubuntu on the second one
[09:06] <Caplain> Jaesang1, i have 5
[09:07] <Jaesang1> but now it says
[09:07] <HKJGN_> | chiz | dont start with me
[09:07] <HKJGN_> lol
[09:07] <Jaesang1> "operating system cannot load"
[09:07] <Jaesang1> or something like that
[09:07] <Jaesang1> on boot
[09:07] <|chiz|> hahaha
[09:07] <airtonix> Phylo: her e is the url for your latop at toshiba : http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modelLanding.jsp?ProductMenu_0=Portables&ProductMenu_1=Satellite&ProductMenu_2=1310938&x=15&y=10&BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%401601366853.1178348593%40%40%40%40&BV_EngineID=cccdaddklfgkhhmcgfkceghdgngdgmm.0&moid=1310938&smoid=true&ct=MH&ListType=Model
[09:07] <mario_> caplain, see "nvidia-glx ya est en su versin ms reciente."
[09:07] <Jaesang1> any ideas?
[09:07] <Caplain> mario_, i dont speak spanish
[09:08] <Jack31> Does anyone get this error
[09:08] <mario_> caplain, sorry "nvidia.glx is the latest version"
[09:08] <orbin> that is one massive url...
[09:08] <airtonix> ja srry
[09:08] <Jack31> Anyone get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19226/
[09:08] <mario_> caplain, the idea is that I have the latest driver here
[09:08] <godlygeek> MSTK: did you get my priv message?  I'm still learning irssi, i want to make sure i sent it correctly.  ;)
[09:08] <MSTK> godlygeek - no, I don't think I got it.  sorry :(
[09:08] <Caplain> mario_, run nvidia-xconfig
[09:08] <frojnd> how can I figure it out on which partition is installed linux root i mean, and how big is this partition - in MB? this is my fdisk and df - h output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19227/
[09:09] <MSTK> the problem might be on my side though.
[09:09] <orbin> frojnd: / is root
[09:09] <Jaesang1> I have two hard drives and i've installed ubuntu linux on my secondary (slave), and now when i'm booting it says "operating system could not load". What do i do?
[09:09] <airtonix> Phylo: you cn download all the win32 stuff there  you might need the wifi rivers
[09:09] <mario_> caplain, i did that "Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[09:09] <mario_> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[09:09] <mario_> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'"
[09:09] <protocol1> is there a way I can add more gnome themes to my machine?
[09:10] <frojnd> orbin: so how can I check how big is root?
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: yep
[09:10] <Caplain> mario_, restart X
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: easy as pie
[09:10] <Caplain> and try again
[09:10] <Jaesang1> anyone there?
[09:10] <|chiz|> protocol1: gnome art manager
[09:10] <protocol1> aitonix, anything but the default ones
[09:10] <godlygeek> MSTK: hm.  private messages from unregistered members are currently blocked. apparently.
[09:10] <vustar> Jack31, /dev/sda2              15G  4.4G  9.7G  31% /
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: goto gnome-look.org
[09:10] <Tarkus> anyone know how to change the color of the top/botom of the workspace cube?
[09:10] <mario_> caplain, how? ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:10] <Jack31> vustar, what?
[09:10] <protocol1> aitonix, ok thx
[09:10] <MSTK> Tarkus - are you using Beryl?
[09:10] <MSTK> godlygeek - well that's inconvenient.
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: gtk is for buttons and menus....metacity is for window borders
[09:10] <Caplain> mario_, yeah
[09:11] <orbin> frojnd: what vustar said to Jack31 :)
[09:11] <airtonix> protocol1: and wallpapers well you nkow them
[09:11] <Tarkus> MSTK, no, just desktop effects that came with ubuntu (compiz)
[09:11] <Jack31> why my name being said?
[09:11] <vustar> frojnd, /dev/sda2              15G  4.4G  9.7G  31% /
[09:11] <MSTK> godlygeek - would you care to explain to me the advantages of zsh over bash?
[09:11] <Snowman> yeah, back.
[09:11] <Phylo> how can I make all my programs run using sudo?  I'm the only one that uses this computer
[09:11] <Jack31> anyone want to help with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19226/
[09:12] <orbin> Snowman: by the time it took i'm guessing no go
[09:12] <Snowman> sorta, yeah.l
[09:12] <|chiz|> Phylo: you shouldn't do that
[09:12] <jpjacobs> Phylo, that's not a good idea... every mistake could result in an unusable system
[09:12] <mario_> caplain, i'll be back in a sec
[09:12] <godlygeek> MSTK: i'm a registered user, are you?  ;)
[09:12] <zcat[1] > Phylo: type 'sudo' in front of every command...
[09:12] <duck3y> Phylo: I don t think that is such a wise move
[09:12] <Snowman> going to install ubuntu on this beast so at least I'll hav a common distro with the more helpful of the channels. :D
[09:12] <Phylo> ok, it's clear that I shouldn't (so I won't), but I'm not running stuff from a command line
[09:12] <MSTK> godlygeek - no, probably not =/   I should try that one day.
[09:12] <Phylo> I'm clicking on the application
[09:12] <vustar> Jack31, 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.0.7, but GLIB (2.12.11)
[09:12] <vustar> *** was found!
[09:13] <zcat[1] > Phylo: there is really _NO_ good reason you'd want to do that, and thousands of reasons why you shouldn't
[09:13] <Snowman> hopefully I can get the live cd to let go of the cd drive long enough to mount a driver cd and install ndiswrapper to get the card up during the install.
[09:13] <Jack31> vustar, yeh , whata bout it?
[09:13] <Phylo> zcat[1] :  Why should I go through some special procedure everytime I want to run an application just because it wants to make sure I'm the admin?
[09:13] <mcquaid> i need to run a perl script that needs various perl modules
[09:13] <airtonix> Phylo: why not? if not just make desktop launchers for what you need
[09:14] <mcquaid> do i build these with cpan or something or should there be a pkg for these?
[09:14] <mario_> caplain, i tried the game once more, but nothing has changed
[09:14] <Tarkus> MSTK, any ideas on how to do it?
[09:14] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  Perl installs it's own modules
[09:14] <rizal_oprex> hi all, I'm using Edgy on my laptop and I have a shutdown problem. If I shutdown my laptop in the end of the process it halt and I have to press the power button for a few second to completely turn off my laptop. Anyone can help me?
[09:14] <MSTK> Tarkus - sorry, I'm using Beryl, so I do'nt really know.  Try asking your question again to the crowd.
[09:14] <godlygeek> MSTK: /msg nickserv REGISTER
[09:14] <airtonix> Phylo: the point of sudo is threefold
[09:14] <zcat[1] > Phylo: perhaps you should ask all the windows users.. the ones that are sending out 90% of the world's spam and dealing with spyware, and all that.... because everyone in XP runs as admin by default..
[09:14] <Phylo> I guess the actual question is how do I do that at all?
[09:14] <airtonix> Phylo: one it sets a timeframe in which admin commands can run
[09:14] <airtonix> Phylo: it also limits the envrion that it can run in
[09:15] <mcquaid> kahrytan, i  have little exposure to perl, i'm running a script that needs NetPacket::Ethernet and others
[09:15] <Phylo> *how do I run it using sudo in the first place?*
[09:15] <Tarkus> anyone know how to change the color of the top/botom of the workspace cube?
[09:15] <airtonix> Phylo: and thee it makes you think again about whatyou are doing
[09:15] <mcquaid> how would I get them?  I don't see any pkgs providing them
[09:15] <Caplain> mario_, well at least your X session is accelerated
[09:15] <airtonix> like this
[09:15] <zie> what is gzip
[09:15] <Toma-> Can you burn the CD iso onto a dvd without anything messing up horribly?
[09:15] <MSTK> godlygeek - there, that should work
[09:15] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  Use cpan
[09:15] <mario_> caplain, hahaha
[09:15] <Caplain> videowise
[09:15] <Caplain> lol
[09:15] <airtonix> Phylo: press alt+f2
[09:15] <mario_> caplain, any other idea?
[09:15] <airtonix> Phylo: then type : gksudo gedit
[09:16] <zie> what is gzip
[09:16] <airtonix> Phylo: if you want to make an icon tthat you double clikc
[09:16] <Snowman> !gzip
[09:16] <zie> yes
[09:16] <airtonix> Phylo: put gksudo <command-to-run>
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gzip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Caplain> mario_, nope
[09:16] <Snowman> heh
[09:16] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  I know perl
[09:16] <mcquaid> kahrytan, so i have to grab these pm files and build them all?
[09:16] <Snowman> zie: gzip is a cli compression app.
[09:16] <airtonix> Phylo: in a dekstop launcher icon....simple
[09:16] <Phylo> ok, I was attributing some other things to being because of "sudo", but gimmie a sec
[09:16] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <zie> it says gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[09:16] <mario_> caplain, thanks anyway i think i'll post this so i can get some help
[09:17] <mcquaid> what I find confusing is this post here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=35475
[09:17] <mario_> caplain, see ya around
[09:17] <zie> im installing a program
[09:17] <zcat[1] > zie: man gzip
[09:17] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  No. Cpan does it for you
[09:17] <zie> yes
[09:17] <airtonix> you will have to use sudo becuase some progs will touch sensitve areas of your system
[09:17] <mcquaid> the user there was trying to run the same script and said he found the required deb packages
[09:17] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  Wait a moment for me to look up info
[09:17] <Flannel> Toma-: yes
[09:17] <[Meta] > ?
[09:17] <mcquaid> ok
[09:17] <[Meta] > Woops.
[09:17] <zie> im installing xvidcap
[09:17] <Toma-> shweet.
[09:17] <Snowman> wish me luck folks, here goes installation of ubuntu :P
[09:18] <mcquaid> just before i use cpan i wanted to make sure there wasn't some pkg i was overlooking
[09:18] <zie> i have ubuntu
[09:18] <Bradford> Thank you crimsun & Flannel! I was seriously searching for that PPC Feisty forever... I have the text install but I want to see how well it works before I install it
[09:18] <zie> its great
[09:18] <airtonix> Phylo: have you rad this yet : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:18] <zie> ok anyone help me with gzip
[09:18] <Bradford> Flannel, do you know if I can install another OS on the same disc as OS X?
[09:18] <airtonix> zie : what is probem
[09:18] <zie> it says gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[09:19] <Phylo> what WEP _mode_ should I use?
[09:19] <airtonix> is it in fact a gzip archive?
[09:19] <zie> whats that mean
[09:19] <zcat[1] > zie: yeah.. you have to either feed in gzipped input, or point it to a gzipped file as the first parameter..
[09:19] <Cosmo_> what does it mean when the terminal says cp: omitting directory '/media/disk-2/home/mom' ?
[09:19] <Jack31> vustar
[09:19] <Jack31> hello?
[09:19] <zie> so how do i do that heres what i typed         tar xfz xvidcap-1.1.5.tar-2
[09:19] <KuzuX> are there any program that can make virtual cd drives?
[09:19] <zcat[1] > zie: the error suggests gzip is being fed with something that isn't compressed input
[09:20] <jo_> hello there
[09:20] <airtonix> Phylo:  the most secure ..... not the standard one that is there
[09:20] <zie> oh ok, so it has nothing to do with GZIP?
[09:20] <airtonix> zie: might not
[09:20] <Toma-> KuzuX: how do you mean?
[09:20] <Phylo> I would choose "secure network" but the only options are "Open system" and "shared key"
[09:20] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel? or how do i get somthing like windows explorer in my panel?
[09:20] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. does the file end with '.gz' or '.tgz'?
[09:20] <zie> Well can someone tell me how to install this program
[09:20] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  I cant find it. Perldoc will have it
[09:20] <zie> tar.gz
[09:20] <airtonix> phylo: hangon pending.
[09:20] <crimsun> zie: pass the file to file(1)
[09:20] <MSTK> piNNoy - you can mount it to a directory
[09:20] <crimsun> zie: it will tell you what type of file it is
[09:20] <zie> how do i pass
[09:20] <MSTK> sudo mount (drive) (directory)
[09:20] <crimsun> zie: file foo
[09:21] <zie> ok
[09:21] <piNNoy> how can i mount all drives
[09:21] <piNNoy> in 1 icon
[09:21] <duck3y> Cosmo_: try 'cp -R' when copying lots of nested directories
[09:21] <piNNoy> to my panel
[09:21] <KuzuX> Toma-:I have cd image files(.iso) and in Windose,I can make virtual cd drives and use them like cd's without burning on a cd
[09:21] <zcat[1] > zie: ok, next problem, whatever comes after the letter 'f' is a filename.. try 'tar xzf' rather than 'tar xfz'
[09:22] <Toma-> piNNoy: you want a "My COmputer" type of thing?
[09:22] <piNNoy> toma: Ya
[09:22] <airtonix> phylo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[09:22] <mcquaid> ok thx
[09:22] <zie> ok
[09:22] <piNNoy> exactly
[09:22] <Toma-> KuzuX: easy. "sudo mount -o loop your.iso /media/cdrom"
[09:22] <biovore> KuzuX: mount -o loop -t iso9660 <iso filename> /my/mount/point/
[09:22] <airtonix> piNNoy: rename the computer icon to My COmputer
[09:22] <zie> nope didnt work
[09:22] <Toma-> piNNoy: hit alt-F2 and open gconf-editor
[09:22] <piNNoy> air: lol
[09:22] <KuzuX> thanks a lot
[09:22] <airtonix> piNNoy: ;)
[09:22] <igcek> helo...does anybody have a good how to, to edit nstuff ext partition through windows?
[09:22] <piNNoy> ok toma: what next
[09:23] <zcat[1] > zie: what's the exact command you're typing?
[09:23] <Toma-> piNNoy: click apps/nautilus/desktop
[09:23] <airtonix> igeck: wouldnt dare try
[09:23] <zie> tar xfz xvidcap-1.1.5.tar
[09:23] <Toma-> and set what you want to see in the check boxes there
[09:23] <crimsun> zie: what did the file command work?
[09:23] <zie> i mean
[09:23] <biovore> igcek: XP and 2000 there was a program call ext2fsd that would allow windows to work with ext2 drives
[09:23] <zie> tar xzf xvidcap-1.1.5.tar
[09:23] <Fri13> igcek: extexplorer
[09:23] <crimsun> zie: it's likely already gunzipped, which means you shouldn't pass 'z' to tar.
[09:23] <igcek> merci
[09:23] <zie> no it didnt work
[09:23] <piNNoy> toma: k next
[09:23] <zcat[1] > zie: that would appear to be an uncompressed tar file. try "tar xf xvidcap-1.1.5.tar"
[09:23] <piNNoy> o
[09:23] <Fri13> igcek: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/
[09:24] <jnc> igcek: windows xp is like, 'mmc' command, add the uh, partition manager component. use it.
[09:24] <Toma-> piNNoy: umm. do you have an icon that says "Computer" ?
[09:24] <zie> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[09:24] <zie> it said that
[09:24] <piNNoy> toma: THANKS NICE!
[09:24] <piNNoy> works!@
[09:24] <Fri13> zie: have you tried recordmydesktop?
[09:24] <piNNoy> wooo
[09:24] <Toma-> yay!
[09:24] <zie> no
[09:24] <piNNoy> Yeah i checkd the computericonvisible
[09:25] <zie> im using ScreenCast
[09:25] <piNNoy> and added it to myt panel
[09:25] <piNNoy> exactly what i wanted.
[09:25] <zcat[1] > zie: download it again.. or just sudo apt-get install istanbul which probably does what you want..
[09:25] <Toma-> fantastic
[09:25] <piNNoy> 2 kudos
[09:25] <h4wk0> !berly
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <zcat[1] > zie: you want to make video clips of your desktop?
[09:25] <zcat[1] > !search istanbul
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: screencast-#ubuntu-effects
[09:25] <piNNoy> now if only i could get my wifi to work
[09:25] <zcat[1] > hmmmm.
[09:25] <piNNoy> lol
[09:26] <zcat[1] > !info istanbul
[09:26] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-3build1 (feisty), package size 46 kB, installed size 376 kB
[09:26] <zie> wait, i have istanbul
[09:26] <h4wk0> !beryl
[09:26] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:26] <zie> can i record from that
[09:26] <Fri13> zie: if you want good desktopcapture, try recordmydesktop and if using KDE; then rekordmydesktop kommander script from kde-apps.org
[09:26] <piNNoy> beryl owns
[09:26] <Phylo> is the network password going to be the WEP key?
[09:26] <Fri13> http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/
[09:26] <airtonix> piNNoy: have you looked at using the restrictedDrivevs program?
[09:26] <zie> im in ubuntu
[09:26] <airtonix> piNNoy: and yes beryl does own, i have more screen space now that i use the xpose type feature
[09:26] <Fri13> zie: you are on Gnome ;-)
[09:27] <airtonix> Fril3: yes ineedy i am
[09:27] <zie> i have ubuntu installed?
[09:27] <zie> no question
[09:27] <zcat[1] > ubuntu is gnome by default.. kubuntu is kde.
[09:27] <Fri13> zie: yes and you have then gnome as desktop by default
[09:27] <zie> ok
[09:27] <zcat[1] > !info recordmydesktop
[09:27] <ubotu> recordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB
[09:28] <zcat[1] > oh, cool...
[09:28] <airtonix> recordmydesktop works for me
[09:28] <Fri13> zcat[1] : mayby best what i have ever used
[09:28] <zcat[1] > I might give that a try too.. istanbul takes a lot of CPU
[09:28] <airtonix> istanbllu is not too good on cpu yeah
[09:28] <zie> !Gtk - REcordMyDesktop
[09:28] <airtonix> there is xvidcap too
[09:28] <zcat[1] > !info xvidcap
[09:28] <ubotu> Package xvidcap does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:29] <Fri13> records to ogg and works great. GTK+ frontend is little dum vs that kommander script but it is nice how it shows progress bar when encoding file.
[09:29] <Phylo> wlassistant says I connected successfully but I can't even search for "hi" in google (firefox)
[09:29] <airtonix> maybe i having wrong name
[09:29] <zcat[1] > no there isn't... unless you install from source :)
[09:29] <zie> i tryed xvidcap
[09:29] <dwid> im having trouble figuring out how to install a .tgz file can anyne help????
[09:29] <MSTK> cd
[09:29] <zcat[1] > dwid: tar xzf foo.tgz
[09:29] <Fri13> dwid: have you extracted files somewhere?
[09:29] <dwid> yeah
[09:30] <zcat[1] > cd foo
[09:30] <Fri13> dwid: have you read INSTALL or README?
[09:30] <|chiz|> Phylo: did you check to see if you got an ip from your wireless?
[09:30] <zcat[1] > ./configure && make && sudo make install
[09:30] <zcat[1] > usually...
[09:30] <zie> Can i record with ScreenCast
[09:30] <airtonix> Phylo: you need a dns now
[09:30] <zcat[1] > about one time in a million it actually works and doesn't need a heap of dev packages
[09:30] <Phylo> how do I check?
[09:31] <airtonix> Phylo: first try this
[09:31] <airtonix> open yourdreaded commandlline console
[09:31] <airtonix> Phylo: then type ifconfig
[09:31] <piNNoy> ubuntu rawks =)
[09:31] <Phylo> terminal?
[09:31] <piNNoy> is anyone here a PRO with wifi ??
[09:31] <airtonix> piNNoy: hear hear
[09:31] <piNNoy> i need 1 on 1 attentino
[09:32] <airtonix> Phylo: you then look for the wifi conenction ;;; ath0 or eth1
[09:32] <bogdan> does enybody know how to make deeper setings on integrated beryl from ubuntu 7.04
[09:32] <piNNoy> air get beryl too.
[09:32] <piNNoy> beryl OWNS
[09:32] <kaiserkoln> what's ur pro with wifi?
[09:32] <airtonix> piNNoy i have it....got it whilst oing my netboot install from my ISP
[09:32] <piNNoy> cant connect
[09:32] <Phylo> I see ath0, eth0, lo, and wifi0
[09:32] <zie> thought id let you guys know, im recording my desktop. i got it
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: okies now look at the section with ath1
[09:33] <piNNoy> whats a good irc client for ubuntu?
[09:33] <zcat[1] > zie: which program?
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: sorry ahto0
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: woops
[09:33] <zie> REcord My Desktop
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: wifi0....lol
[09:33] <|chiz|> piNNoy, irssi
[09:33] <piNNoy> isent irssi - terminal based?
[09:33] <Phylo> yeah, looking@ath0, nvm, looking at wifi0 area
[09:33] <zcat[1] > zie: cool.. cairo's on the good computer so I'll have to try it later.
[09:33] <piNNoy> thats mad hackerish
[09:34] <zie> lol its very kool
[09:34] <kaiserkoln> wep u in ur wifi?
[09:34] <airtonix> Phylo: anyway....i thnk ath0 and wifi0 are both the same.....maybe not try pinging both and see waht the ms repsonse time ifthey time is the same it might the same device
[09:34] <|chiz|> piNNoy, irssi + screen and run it on a server that never shuts down, then you can idle in rooms forever
[09:34] <zie> i just have an Imac, and Ubuntu, and Windows Vista, all on the imac
[09:34] <zie> its awsome
[09:34] <piNNoy> screen?
[09:34] <telejedi> macbook - feisty
[09:34] <zie> yes
[09:34] <zie> imac screen
[09:34] <MSTK> screen is a terminal multiplexer
[09:35] <Phylo> "ping ath0" -> unknown host ath0
[09:35] <zie> imac running tiger
[09:35] <piNNoy> !screen
[09:35] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:35] <kaiserkoln> its better wap for not crackin
[09:35] <piNNoy> woo
[09:35] <airtonix> Phylo: yo ucan see the ip address of you wifi? dont post it here...just type ping ip-address
[09:35] <zcat[1] > damn, only a months uptime.. suck
[09:35] <MSTK> i think that the feature they are talking about
[09:35] <MSTK> is the ability to "detach" screens
[09:35] <zie> brb
[09:35] <MSTK> and have them run on their own
[09:35] <MSTK> and then later on, reattach them
[09:35] <|chiz|> piNNoy, screen lets you leave your session running and return it next time you log into the server
[09:35] <airtonix> Phylo: your teminal should start scrolling with millisecond reposnse imtes
[09:36] <Phylo> same with "ping wifi0".  Looking for an ip...
[09:36] <airtonix> Phylo: times8
[09:36] <Phylo> I have an HWaddr, no ip...
[09:36] <zcat[1] > Hehe.. yeah, WEP can be cracked in half a minute.. WPA holds up for about five ;)
[09:36] <duck3y> soos dit en wat wat
[09:36] <airtonix> Phylo: ping 127.0.0.1 ?
[09:36] <Phylo> nvm ath0 gives one  (wifi0 doesn't)
[09:36] <airtonix> ohhh your wii set to dhcp?
[09:36] <duck3y> soos dit en wat wat
[09:37] <piNNoy> hm ok when i ping something like www.google.com it dosent ping cause im not connected but it goes to the next line,, to get back to my root i always have to close and open terminal ... is there another way to get to the root?
[09:37] <airtonix> okies
[09:37] <foug> does anyone know which ports i need to open up for torrents and irc downloads to work?
[09:37] <airtonix> foug: rtorrent lets you specify which ports
[09:37] <kaiserkoln> nice screen for ubuntu in this page is a manual: http://thehunter.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/instalar-y-configurar-kubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[09:37] <airtonix> foug: lke this rtorrent -p 9999-9999
[09:37] <zie> so do my videos of my desktop render to .avi or??
[09:37] <foug> airtonix: i'm trying to do it through http://192.168.1.1, i need to open up ports for IRC downloads as well, not just torrents
[09:38] <airtonix> foug: uses only port 9999
[09:38] <Phylo> airtonix
[09:38] <Phylo> how do I stop the pinging...
[09:38] <airtonix> foug choose whatever port you wat
[09:38] <foug> airtonix: i don't quite get it...i thought i had to use certain ports?
[09:38] <airtonix> Phylo: ctrl+c or z or x
[09:38] <Phylo> ok, it's working
[09:38] <airtonix> foug : nope the switch -p lets rtorrent advertise which ports to use
[09:38] <piNNoy> ahh thats what i was looking for air ty
[09:39] <Phylo> I got those ms times listing
[09:39] <piNNoy> crtl c stops the ping
[09:39] <Phylo> 0.035 on average
[09:39] <foug> airtonix: what about irc? that's what i use to download mostly everything
[09:39] <airtonix> phylo : cool then your card is working
[09:39] <Phylo> yes, very cool.  thank you
[09:39] <Coster> loosing my mind with radeon 9600 drivers
[09:39] <Phylo> I have another question now though :-)
[09:39] <airtonix> Phylo: what needs to happen now is you need to translate google.com into its ip address for your normal browsing habots
[09:40] <airtonix> Phylo: ill get the ip and well see if you can ping it
[09:40] <zie> Caplain, help me
[09:40] <Phylo> huh?
[09:40] <zie> caplain, help me
[09:40] <airtonix> phylo: woops willy me
[09:40] <Phylo> no way am I going to get used to entering large strings of numbers to browse the internet...
[09:41] <airtonix> Phylo: your cards working....alla the repsonse of your pongs to its ip address
[09:41] <Phylo> right.
[09:41] <kaiserkoln> quien quiera decorar muy bello su kubuntu que se aplique este tutorial: http://thehunter.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/instalar-y-configurar-kubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[09:41] <foug> airtonix: what about irc? that's what i use to download mostly everything
[09:41] <airtonix> Phylo: but now the next hop of the connection is the www......so try pinging this : 64.233.187.99)
[09:42] <zcat[1] > Phylo: bah, back in my day we have to enter ip addresses in binary!
[09:42] <airtonix> phylo: without the bracket
[09:42] <Phylo> lol
[09:42] <Phylo> one sec
[09:42] <piNNoy> is there anyway to make the caps in beryl lighter or darker?
[09:42] <airtonix> zcat[1] : boyah....real surfing
[09:42] <variant> Phylo: use ctrl c to exit a program, ctrl z only pauses it
[09:42] <airtonix> variant: then how to unpause it
[09:42] <Phylo> ok, getting times
[09:42] <Phylo> 0% lost
[09:42] <airtonix> Phylo: sweet
[09:42] <variant> airtonix: %
[09:42] <airtonix> Phylo: you have google
[09:42] <Phylo> indeed :-)
[09:43] <Phylo> too bad firefox doesn't know that :-(
[09:43] <airtonix> variant: simply type percentage sisgn??
[09:43] <airtonix> Phylo: well
[09:43] <Caplain> zie, whats the issue?
[09:43] <variant> airtonix: run top, press ctrl z. then type "jobs"
[09:43] <airtonix> Phylo: hmmm
[09:43] <zcat[1] > I guess configuring a dns server or two might be the next step..
[09:43] <airtonix> Phylo: okies open system -> administration -> networking
[09:43] <variant> airtonix: if htere is one stopped job then the % sign will restart it, if ther is more than one then you would restart the appropriate one with %1 or %2 etc
[09:44] <airtonix> variant: ahhh kools
[09:44] <variant> airtonix: top will also show the proccess in "stopped" state
[09:44] <Phylo> ok
[09:44] <airtonix> Phylo: then got the DNS section
[09:44] <variant> airtonix: does he use dhcp to get an address?
[09:44] <airtonix> Phylo: have you got firefox open right now?
[09:44] <Phylo> yes@variante
[09:44] <airtonix> variant: not sure
[09:44] <piNNoy> is there anyway to make the caps in beryl lighter or darker?        my backround example: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i152/piNNoy/poopu/newbackround.png
[09:44] <Phylo> *variant*
[09:44] <zcat[1] > DHCP should be giving some valid nameservers too..
[09:44] <variant> Phylo: then you should already have dns setup
[09:44] <Phylo> yes I have it open righ tnow
[09:45] <variant> Phylo: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[09:45] <variant> Phylo: that will list your name servers
[09:45] <variant> Phylo: if any
[09:45] <Phylo> search domain_not_set.invalid :-(
[09:45] <variant> airtonix: sorry to interrupt :) I know you were getting to the same info too
[09:46] <airtonix> piNNoy: ummm you looked throught the berl-settins-manager?
[09:46] <piNNoy> yeah u can only change cube color
[09:46] <piNNoy> not cap color
[09:46] <airtonix> variant: scoolyou seem to be going more diret way
[09:46] <zie> caplain, need help. do i ask you
[09:46] <airtonix> piNNoy: make png of your choice?
[09:46] <protocol1> I am trying to install gnome themes and it doesnt seem to work
[09:46] <variant> Phylo: not sure about setting the transparancy of the caps..
[09:46] <zcat[1] > make a cap bitmap... I think it has to be sware or powers of two or something..
[09:46] <zcat[1] > *square
[09:47] <airtonix> protocol1: what file tpye are you starting with
[09:47] <piNNoy> var: hmm i typed that and i see it 'search academic.remingtonadmin.edu' thats my school... can that be why my wifi isent connecting at home?
[09:47] <Phylo> that was my list of servers... search domain_not_set.invalid
[09:47] <piNNoy> air: the top and bottom of the cube
[09:47] <piNNoy> air: aka caps
[09:47] <zcat[1] > make a bitmap of 1024x1024 and it should be happy with it :)
[09:47] <airtonix> piNNoy: they can use SVG as well
[09:47] <piNNoy> SVG?
[09:47] <zcat[1] > mine are just white.. I was sure I did some bitmaps, perhaps that was on the other machine..
[09:47] <Phylo> oh, and "nameserver (ip addy)" too
[09:48] <protocol1> aitonix, tar.gz file
[09:48] <Cosmo_> I forget whats the command to unmount a drive?
[09:48] <mwe> umount
[09:48] <protocol1> airtonix, tar.gz file
[09:48] <airtonix> piNNoy: scalable vector gracphics...an xml based graphic format
[09:48] <foug> airtonix: in 192.168.1.1 i went to port forwarding and made "application: xchat    start: port#  end: port#"
[09:48] <piNNoy> !svg
[09:48] <ubotu> svg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon14
[09:48] <foug> airtonix: and the download is not working
[09:48] <variant> Phylo: sorry, not sure what you mean there. please put /etc/resolv.conf on pastebin
[09:48] <HKJGN_> lol. well, that sucked
[09:48] <Bradford> DOES anyone know about PPC
[09:49] <zcat[1] > Bradford: very little
[09:49] <airtonix> foug: your needt oopen those ports on your firewall in ubunt.....got firestarter installed?
[09:49] <piNNoy> var: hmm i typed that and i see it 'search academic.remingtonadmin.edu' thats my school... can that be why my wifi isent connecting at home?
[09:49] <zcat[1] > Bradford: you had a question?
[09:49] <variant> foug: does that open dcc ports or just some irc server port?
[09:49] <airtonix> protocol1: okies tried dragging nad dropping it onto the theme manger gui?
[09:49] <protocol1> airtonix, I am trying to drag that to the theme manager
[09:49] <foug> airtonix: yes
[09:49] <foug> variant: heh, dunno
[09:49] <protocol1> let me try it again
[09:49] <Phylo> it's only two lines.  I enter "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and it returns "search domain_not_set.invalid
[09:49] <foug> variant: i went to the xchat FAQ
[09:49] <HKJGN_> btw, Envy rocks
[09:49] <variant> foug: see if you can open the "dcc" service port
[09:49] <HKJGN_> lol
[09:49] <variant> foug: ok
[09:49] <mwe> !ppc | Bradford
[09:49] <ubotu> Bradford: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[09:49] <Caplain> zie, what do you need help with?
[09:49] <Phylo> nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[09:49] <airtonix> protocol1: okies then its not packaged properly
[09:49] <foug> variant: put DCC under application?
[09:49] <piNNoy> !wifi
[09:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:50] <variant> Phylo: ok, that means that your router is the primary name server
[09:50] <airtonix> protocol1: unpack it forst then see inside
[09:50] <variant> Phylo: that also means that your router has to have valid name servers set
[09:50] <variant> Phylo: whatever your ISP provides
[09:50] <foug> airtonix: in firestarter i add all the ports i opened?
[09:50] <airtonix> foug: i have for my eaxcmple above opened ports 9999 for everyone
[09:50] <HKJGN_> now i am boreded 9_9! lol
[09:51] <Phylo> variant:  ... so where do I find what to enter, and where do I enter it?
[09:51] <zcat[1] > the only thing more annoying than people asking to ask a question is people who ask and then don't follow up with an actual question at all..
[09:51] <variant> Phylo: have you used that router successfully on the internet before?
[09:51] <mwe> my router had the nameservers set when it came from my ISP
[09:51] <foug> airtonix: i don't understand anything about ports
[09:51] <telejedi> when will ubuntu-studio be out ?
[09:51] <Phylo> yes, via Windows ME
[09:51] <variant> Phylo: ugghhhhhh
[09:51] <variant> Phylo: anyway
[09:51] <protocol1> airtonix, ok I got it
[09:51] <Phylo> I know lol
[09:51] <foug> variant: it didn't save my settings even though i said save, did i name it wrong or something?
[09:51] <Phylo> also via WinXP
[09:51] <airtonix> foug : each stream of data requries an open port
[09:52] <airtonix> foug : your network card hass the potential to open 64000 odd ports
[09:52] <protocol1> airtonix, the file I wanted to use wasn't packaged right
[09:52] <zie> nevermind i got it
[09:52] <Phylo> airtonix:  not 65536?
[09:52] <Caplain> zie, im going to bed
[09:52] <variant> Phylo: ok, in the terminal type "dhclient eth0" (change eth0 to whatever device you use to connect to the internet)
[09:52] <foug> airtonix: i see
[09:52] <airtonix> foug : your familar with nos : 80(web) 110(ftp),
[09:52] <zie> ok
[09:52] <jnc> foug: 2^16 minus 1, to be more accurate ;P
[09:52] <zie> ive got it
[09:52] <foug> airtonix: not at all
[09:53] <HKJGN_> lol
[09:53] <Phylo> variant:  ok I got a bunch of stuff
[09:53] <foug> jnc: whatever works
[09:53] <airtonix> protocol1: okies unpack it....it might be more than one them in the whole package
[09:53] <zcat[1] > that's tcp ports. there's another 65536 udp ports available too.. and tunnels..
[09:53] <variant> Phylo: now try "ping www.google.com
[09:53] <airtonix> foug : well those are the numbers for web pages or http traffic and ftp trafffic
[09:53] <Phylo> noting yet
[09:53] <foug> airtonix: got'cha
[09:54] <airtonix> yeah the whole network traffic is antooher level literrally of logic
[09:54] <variant> Phylo: doh, leave it a few momments. there was a bug recently that caused very slow resolution
[09:54] <Phylo> unknown host
[09:54] <variant> Phylo: doh
[09:54] <Phylo> lol, I used ath0
[09:54] <airtonix> brb
[09:54] <ziroday> !offtopic
[09:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <Dquestions2> hi
[09:54] <variant> Phylo: please pastbin the output of ifconfig
[09:55] <Dquestions2> so i fucked up my wired connection by trying to fix wireless on my mbp
[09:55] <Dquestions2> is there any way to "reload" the old drivers using the cd?
[09:55] <Dquestions2> i used the live cd for installation
[09:55] <variant> Phylo: you can use: http://216.22.48.130/paste
[09:55] <Phylo> working on that:
[09:56] <variant> Phylo: or not.. wonder why that doesn't work
[09:56] <Phylo> it's ok I found it (I just plugged in via ethernet cable)
[09:56] <variant> Phylo: ok, cool
[09:56] <Phylo> but how do I copy&paste? X-D
[09:57] <foug> variant: i made the application dcc and made it tcp like some guide said and it still isn't working
[09:57] <variant> Phylo: right click/copy/paste
[09:57] <Dquestions2> hmm
[09:57] <zcat[1] > ^C / ^V just like 'doze
[09:57] <airtonix> foug: ok so on my router i tell it to forwared traffic it recieves on its 9999 port to a mchine in my network 10.1.1.14 on its port 9999
[09:57] <foug> variant: neither of the ones i made saved either, i don't see them anywhere
[09:57] <variant> foug: sorry, dunno mate
[09:57] <foug> airtonix: k
[09:57] <Phylo> lol, havent' used the mouse for that in forever...  zcat[1] , that didn't work
[09:57] <airtonix> foug : are you doing torrents?
[09:57] <variant> i'm at work, phone. brb
[09:57] <foug> airtonix: no irc downloads, DCC
[09:58] <airtonix> foug : ahhh no idea then
[09:58] <foug> airtonix: ughhh
[09:58] <HKJGN> well, if that didnt just screw up my pc
[09:58] <HKJGN> X.x
[09:58] <airtonix> foug : logically it hould be the same unless its using more than one port then youll need to add more than one port on the right protocol
[09:58] <zcat[1] > hmm.. right mouse button.. or highlight and drag works quite often. Or highlight, switch apps and middle-click to paste
[09:58] <HKJGN> -is hikyuu from earlier
[09:58] <foug> airtonix: i don't know if i'm forwarding the ports correctly
[09:58] <Phylo> variant...   I can't paste it... I says "Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[09:59] <protocol1> airtonix, when I extract the file...which one do I use for installing
[09:59] <Phylo> and about another 20 lines
[09:59] <Phylo> (this happened when I clicked send
[09:59] <foug> airtonix: and i don't know where to go to add whatever to whichever protocol :|
[09:59] <Phylo> )
[09:59] <HKJGN> now my videos all screwed up, im in recovery mode, can anyone assist me?
[09:59] <protocol1> airtonix, the xml file?
[09:59] <airtonix> foug : does you router have a web interface? mine is stupidly called "applications& gaming"
[09:59] <foug> airtonix: yea that's where i am at
[10:00] <foug> airtonix: i tried adding 2 things to that so far and neither have worked, or saved it seems
[10:00] <airtonix> protocol1: open a file browser
[10:00] <airtonix> protocol1: to ~
[10:00] <zcat[1] > pinholing's a bitch
[10:00] <airtonix> foug: wow...dodgey router?
[10:00] <HKJGN> how do i find out my graphics drivers in comand line?
[10:00] <foug> airtonix: what do you mean?
[10:01] <variant> foug: disable firestarter
[10:01] <airtonix> protocol1: or just goto your home folder
[10:01] <foug> airtonix: i don't know if i added them correctly in the first place
[10:01] <robert98374> hello everyone
[10:01] <ziroday> hi
[10:01] <siloko> hi
[10:01] <protocol1> airtonix, ok
[10:01] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:01] <airtonix> foug: ohh but you pressed the save settings button surely?
[10:01] <bawlsfan06> hello, has anyone else here been experiencing random freezes in feisty fawn?
[10:01] <zcat[1] > usually you have to do some 'save and reboot' thing before they tahe effect..
[10:01] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:01] <airtonix> protocol1: then press ctrl+l
[10:01] <Phylo> variant/airtonix:  so I have google... but firefox doesn't know that
[10:02] <airtonix> protocol1: then append this to the current path : .themes
[10:02] <robert98374> Does anyone know where i can find a simple way to mount an iso?
[10:02] <airtonix> Phylo: ja you got it open now
[10:02] <variant> Phylo: it's because your name servers are not being served correctly by your routers
[10:02] <variant> Phylo: do you know the login details for your router?
[10:02] <Phylo> airtonix:  no, I pinged it successfully (earlier when you said to)
[10:02] <zcat[1] > robert98374: right-click, but it to a cd, eject, pop the CD back in.
[10:02] <airtonix> Phylo: firefox i meant ...if so then type that ip address igave you awhile aog and see what appened
[10:02] <foug> airtonix: i just edited my xchat.config and added the ports there, do you think that will work/
[10:02] <Phylo> variant:  I'm pretty sure I do
[10:02] <zcat[1] > *burn not but
[10:02] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:02] <variant> Phylo: or do you have the connection settings provided by your isp?
[10:03] <airtonix> foug : unlikely
[10:03] <HKJGN> god..
[10:03] <phire> how can I change my sound buffer in feisty?
[10:03] <HKJGN> im just going to kill my pc
[10:03] <Phylo> variant:  I don't even know what connection settings you are referring to
[10:03] <protocol1> airtonix, put the folder I extracted in there or the .gz file
[10:03] <foug> airtonix: there's a setting called "dcc_ip = "
[10:03] <foug> airtonix: it's left blank, should i add my ip?
[10:03] <airtonix> protocol1: yeah you can dump tar.gz or unpacked folders
[10:03] <Phylo> variant:  I just know all the passwords, WEP key, ESSID, etc
[10:03] <protocol1> ok
[10:03] <protocol1> will do both
[10:03] <zcat[1] > robert98374: or alt-F2 and type "gksu mount -o loop foo.iso /media/cdrom/ " should work
[10:03] <variant> Phylo: was your router pre configured to connect to your isp? (did they provide it?)
[10:03] <robert98374> zcat so i am assuming there isnt an easy way?
[10:04] <airtonix> foug : mmmm i hae irc tranfers...i think this is your router IP....not sure
[10:04] <Phylo> variant:  hmm, I guess it was, I don't recall setting anythin gup
[10:04] <variant> airtonix: see if he has firestarter...
[10:04] <piNNoy> how do i check which drivers my wireless card is using?
[10:04] <foug> airtonix: the downloads worked just fine in windows, never had a problem
[10:04] <robert98374> ok ill try the script one thanks
[10:04] <zcat[1] > robert98374: alt-F2 "gksu mount -o loop foo.iso /media/cdrom/ " is about the easiest I can think of
[10:04] <HKJGN> sigh, well, i installed the drivers using Envy, and it destroyed my monitor visual, it was all chopped up and etc
[10:05] <airtonix> foug : yeah you got firestarter installed? for easy manipulation of yourr firewall
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: i found this http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3398 dunno if that's useful, i really know nothing about networking
[10:05] <zcat[1] > robert98374: Desktop/foo.iso if the ISO was downloaded to your desktop
[10:05] <Phylo> variant/airtonix:  well, I entered "http://(googleip)" and it loaded the page
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: yes it's disabled
[10:05] <variant> Phylo: ok, so. can you login to your router (normally in firefox you can open "http://192.168.1.1" but this can be different depending on router, you will have to check the router manual
[10:05] <airtonix> enablbe it
[10:05] <airtonix> foug: enable it
[10:05] <Phylo> so something to do with nameservers definitely sounds like the problem
[10:05] <piNNoy> how do i check which drivers my wireless card is running?
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: o it's active
[10:05] <airtonix> then goto the events panel
[10:05] <foug> k
[10:05] <variant> Phylo: yes, thats because you are skipping the domain name entirely and going direct to one of googles servers (load balancer actually but..)
[10:05] <airtonix> now try to to dcc activity
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: it's blank
[10:05] <siloko> are you using networkmanager to connect
[10:06] <Phylo> variant:  well I haven't "logged in", but I opened my router's page
[10:06] <airtonix> goto the prefs and there is an area to show all events
[10:06] <foug> airtonix: how? i don't see the option to
[10:06] <mrmonday> why do I need root access to back up my home folder?
[10:06] <variant> Phylo: ok, login
[10:06] <mrmonday> surely I have permisions for it all?
[10:06] <Phylo> where...?
[10:06] <variant> Phylo: or does it display any information on the first page without loggin in?
[10:06] <thelostpatrol> is there any way to make x-chat minimize when you hit X?
[10:06] <airtonix> foug: file r edit-> preferencese
[10:06] <foug> airtonix: there's nothing under events, what should i add/
[10:06] <variant> Phylo: does it display "primary dns" and "secondary dns"?
[10:06] <airtonix> thelostpatrol: a plugin
[10:06] <thelostpatrol> airtonix, know the name?
[10:07] <airtonix> foug its an output winow. have you stated some dcc activity?
[10:07] <Phylo> variant:  it's got the network status, the list of connected devices, and some other stuff
[10:07] <variant> Phylo: what isp are you with?
[10:07] <foug> airtonix: well yea but the download isn't starting
[10:07] <Phylo> I don't see dns
[10:07] <Phylo> verizon
[10:07] <foug> airtonix: it just sits at 0%
[10:07] <variant> Phylo: what state?
[10:07] <airtonix> thelostpatrol: sorry....search google for : ubuntu xchat-gnome plugins
[10:07] <Phylo> CA
[10:07] <airtonix> foug go back to the evenets
[10:07] <robert98374> Zcat do i put in the name of the Iso instead of foo?
[10:07] <foug> airtonix: k
[10:07] <Dquestions2> hi guys... if i fucked up my drivers for the ethernet... is there any way to use the Live CD (feisty) to reinstall them?
[10:07] <r2d4> I have the open source drivers installed for my ATI Radeon 9600 in Feisty. Is it OK to just use Envy to install the proprietary drivers? Or should I do something else first like manually remove the open drivers?
[10:07] <thelostpatrol> airtonix, thanks, i will
[10:07] <airtonix> foug: did you change the preferences of firestarter to show all events
[10:08] <foug> airtonix: no
[10:08] <zcat[1] > robert98374: yes.
[10:08] <ziroday> r2d4: ati dont support that card envy wont work
[10:08] <Phylo> variant:  ok I found two "DNS Address #x"
[10:08] <robert98374> kk thanks
[10:08] <aburrent> i have a matrox grafix card and I want to upgrade to a new nvidia quadro4 card...is there a way to make X detect and reconfigure?
[10:08] <airtonix> foug so or it will stay blank
[10:08] <airtonix> foug: then you will need to go to the policy section
[10:09] <zcat[1] > Dquestions2: that depends.. did you mess up the drivers, or just settings?
[10:09] <variant> Phylo: excellent
[10:09] <robert98374> Zcat it gave the error Could not open location 'file:///&quot;gksu mount -o loop UNREAL_GOLD.iso /Desktop/UNREAL_GOLD.iso'
[10:09] <variant> Phylo: what are they?
[10:09] <foug> airtonix: i don't see where to show all events
[10:09] <robert98374> The location or file could not be found.
[10:09] <r2d4> ziroday: Hmm. It didn't work now like you say. But I am pretty sure I installed fine an year ago.
[10:09] <Phylo> 68.238.64.12
[10:09] <ziroday> aburrent: dpkg-reconfigure phigh xserver-xorg
[10:09] <Dquestions2> zcat[1] ,  i'm not sure
[10:09] <airtonix> foug: im looking now
[10:09] <r2d4> ziroday: I manually installed the driver then.
[10:09] <Phylo> I tried going to that ip in a new tab, it hasn't loaded yet
[10:09] <ziroday> r2d4: lemme gues  bad resolution
[10:09] <zcat[1] > robert98374: type the command without the quotes
[10:09] <Loco> hi anyone knows how to install or enable the skydome feature in beryl?
[10:09] <aburrent> ziroday: when I put the card in, X won't start...so I should do that at the command line?
[10:09] <Cosmo_> after my system is up for about 12+ hours all my USB ports seem to go dead (including my mouse) how do I fix this? (I am using 7.04 fiesty fawn)
[10:10] <ziroday> aburrent: yes
[10:10] <airtonix> foug: untick 'hide redudnant entries'
[10:10] <r2d4> ziroday: yes.
[10:10] <variant> Phylo: ok, open up /etc/resolv.conf in a text editor (gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf) and remove everything thats there, copy each of the DNS address into that file each on it's own line
[10:10] <robert98374> lol
[10:10] <foug> airtonix: it was, nothing shows up
[10:10] <MaskedMan> Can i get some help, I'm sorta new to Linux
[10:10] <eshaase> ok, i'm having major system failures, I've noticed my computer freezing from time to time and I just noticed in a shell that when i execute ls i get: bash: /bin/ls: input/output error and when i execute rm xxx i get: rm: cannot remove '...': read-only file system... i figured my partition was full but that isn't the case... anyone have any ideas?
[10:10] <robert98374> wow i feel duh
[10:10] <variant> Phylo: yes, they are not websites, you can't browse to them. just do what i just said and save the file
[10:10] <aburrent> ziroday: I'll give it a try...thanks
[10:10] <Phylo> can I just enter those as "Domain servers" in my network settings?
[10:10] <variant> Phylo: yes!
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: then goto firewll -> advanced
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: wait they show now
[10:11] <variant> Phylo: was just gonna do my way as a quick test to see if it worked
[10:11] <jpiccolo> question: if i install xfce4 on a server install will it add startup services?
[10:11] <eck> eshaase: check dmesg and /var/log/messages
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: i see 2 events
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: what are the ip's?
[10:11] <robert98374> zcat where did it mount it?
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: woops ont post
[10:11] <variant> jpiccolo: afaik, it might add gdm
[10:11] <MaskedMan> ...
[10:11] <ziroday> r2d4: i ahve the same card and bassically with the new kernel ati only updated some of the drivers the others were left in the dust. So only the open source drivers or a older distro
[10:11] <airtonix> foug : lol
[10:11] <eshaase> eck: dmesg only applies to my current session correct?
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: lol
[10:11] <fotoflo> whats the ubuntu chinese channel?
[10:11] <variant> jpiccolo: although i'm not certain
[10:11] <variant> !chinese
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: ping those ips...
[10:11] <variant> !cz
[10:11] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:11] <r2d4> ziroday: I am just unhappy with the performance of Beryl and wondered if the closed drivers would help.
[10:11] <variant> er
[10:11] <zcat[1] > robert98374: I would have expected a cd to appear on the desktop.. but you might have to go digging .. it should be in /media/cdrom/
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: how? ping # in terminal?
[10:11] <eck> eshaase: it is a log of all the messages the kernel has printed since you started up
[10:11] <jpiccolo> variant, do but i would be able to disable that on startup and only start it when needed, right
[10:12] <eshaase> eck: actually doesn't dmesg and /var/log/messages only apply to my current session?
[10:12] <ziroday> !zh | fotoflo
[10:12] <ubotu> fotoflo: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:12] <variant> jpiccolo: absolutly
[10:12] <airtonix> foug: woops again are they your ip addresses?
[10:12] <r2d4> ziroday: I guess I should just leave Beryl till I upgrade.
[10:12] <eshaase> eck: well i had to reboot so it won't be in there
[10:12] <eck> eshaase: there are archives in /var/log as well
[10:12] <foug> airtonix: i don't think so
[10:12] <fotoflo> thanks
[10:12] <Phylo> variant:  well I set them, (I left "Search Domain" with that invalid thing)
[10:12] <variant> Phylo: so, it's working right?
[10:12] <jpiccolo> variant, and that would be the only thing that i should look for right?
[10:12] <r2d4> ziroday: How is compositing for you?
[10:12] <Phylo> I clicked close
[10:12] <airtonix> ok they show up coz they are being blocked
[10:12] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:12] <eshaase> eck: where are the archives?
[10:12] <ziroday> r2d4: you can try but envy will give you a module mismatch error
[10:12] <Phylo> went to www.google.com and it's still not loaded
[10:12] <variant> Phylo: take out search domain entirely
[10:12] <eck> eshaase: i think they are not strictly rotated once per boot session, so you have a good chance of finding older stuff
[10:12] <MaskedMan> can someone help me in a PM
[10:12] <ziroday> r2d4: as long as i dont go overboard pretty god
[10:12] <Phylo> (restarting firefox)
[10:12] <kraut> moin
[10:12] <variant> Phylo: please add the name servers in the way i initially asked. by directly adding them to /etc/resolv.conf
[10:13] <zcat[1] > robert98374: actually it might be easier to just right-click and extract it like an archive. I didn't realise that was an option even!
[10:13] <eck> eshaase: /var/log/messages.[1-9] .gz etc.
[10:13] <airtonix> foug: does it start with 192.168...?
[10:13] <variant> Phylo: you don't need to restart firefox...
[10:13] <piNNoy> can someone answer my ? pls
[10:13] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:13] <airtonix> foug : they are your IP addressess
[10:13] <r2d4> ziroday: Is the default effects - not overboard? or did you tweak down?
[10:13] <airtonix> foug : most likley
[10:13] <foug> airtonix: k
[10:13] <HKJGN_> ATIs drivers destroyed my resolution, how can i fix this?
[10:13] <variant> Phylo: please just _only_ do what I ask.. i can't help if your doing other stuff that you think might help (no offence but your not as experienced)
[10:13] <ziroday> r2d4: default was fine
[10:13] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:13] <airtonix> foug: in the coloumn next tothat isthe port that that particular event occured on
[10:14] <robert98374> Zcat lol
[10:14] <Phylo> variant:  that's ok  :-)  I got back to where I was
[10:14] <ziroday> HKJGN_: what gfx card?
[10:14] <Phylo> gonna do that edit now
[10:14] <eshaase> eck: ok, i'll take a look
[10:14] <eshaase> eck: thanks
[10:14] <HKJGN_> ziroday: X800gt
[10:14] <ziroday> r2d4: all i learnt was never ever buy ati
[10:14] <variant> Phylo: great, make sure you remove everything that is there to start with
[10:14] <r2d4> ziroday: My CPU is Athlon XP 2000+. Pretty old. Does Beryl make a difference on CPU or just the GPU?
[10:14] <robert98374> thw whole reason is that i am trying to install something in wine from it
[10:14] <foug> airtonix: they happened yesterday
[10:14] <foug> airtonix: i don't think they are my dcc activity
[10:14] <ziroday> r2d4: not sure you can always go to #beryl and ask
[10:14] <airtonix> foug: what is the port number
[10:14] <HKJGN_> ziroday: i used Envy to install the ATI drivers cause they werent compatible with X 7.2.0
[10:14] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:14] <airtonix> foug: is it 137 or 6666
[10:14] <foug> airtonix: 36---
[10:15] <gordonjcp> why does Ubuntu use Evolution instead of Thunderbird?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > r2d4: I'm running beryl on a 1ghz cpu here.. mostly it wants GPU power..
[10:15] <airtonix> foug: ohh not local then
[10:15] <r2d4> ziroday: Ah! Will do that.
[10:15] <piNNoy> ..........!
[10:15] <eck> gordonjcp: because evolution is a gnome project, thunderbird is not
[10:15] <bullgard4> What is the effect of the C instruction "struct x y;"?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > .. I'm also running it on a really old nvidia card.
[10:15] <HKJGN_> ziroday: but it just trashed my Gnome-XGL session, im on regular Gnome session right now
[10:15] <airtonix> foug: that is to sya its not a typcial local netowkr thing other than mysql
[10:15] <ziroday> HKJGN_: whats the max resolution you can get?
[10:15] <r2d4> zcat[1] : thanks.
[10:15] <foug> airtonix: ahh
[10:15] <eshaase> eck: i found three suspecious lines
[10:15] <foug> airtonix: well it was yesterday
[10:15] <Phylo> variant:  enter it with or without "nameserver " before it?
[10:15] <gordonjcp> eck: but evolution doesn't work very well, and doesn't appear to be maintained
[10:15] <eshaase> eck: 4 actually
[10:15] <eck> bullgard4: it declares the variable y whose type is struct x
[10:15] <variant> Phylo: without
[10:15] <airtonix> foug: mysql serves its dat out of 3306 it hink
[10:15] <HKJGN_> ziroday: no idea, uhm 12xx X 800
[10:15] <eck> gordonjcp: it is maintained, and works very well (except for the bugs...)
[10:15] <variant> Phylo: _only_ the ip addresses, one on each line
[10:16] <Phylo> k, edited, saved, exited
[10:16] <gordonjcp> eck: it's had the same showstopper bug for about a year
[10:16] <zcat[1] > gotta go..
[10:16] <airtonix> foug : ok then you choose a port to dcc on?
[10:16] <variant> Phylo: now try ping www.google.com
[10:16] <foug> airtonix: how?
[10:16] <gordonjcp> eck: you cannot reply as plaintext-only to an html email, for instance
[10:16] <ziroday> HKJGN_: did you get the proper resolution before installing the ati frivers?
[10:16] <Phylo> unknown host
[10:16] <airtonix> foug pick one? lik 4444 or 6566
[10:16] <bullgard4> eck: Thank you very much.
[10:16] <variant> Phylo: grr
[10:16] <variant> Phylo: ok
[10:16] <airtonix> foug : or 63000
[10:16] <HKJGN_> ziroday: Envy changed my X.org automatically
[10:16] <HKJGN_> ziroday: so i guess not
[10:16] <airtonix> foug: its your choice
[10:16] <eck> gordonjcp: are you sure? all of my outgoing emails are in plaintext
[10:16] <Phylo> (although it returned that instantly instead of waiting a few seconds)
[10:16] <foug> airtonix: i don't understand, where am i typing this in at
[10:17] <mrmonday> how do I write 5gb files to a fat32 partition?
[10:17] <moDumass> with ubuntu clock, it says click to view appoinments and tasks, but i cannot for the life of me add neither appointments nor tasks
[10:17] <moDumass> any ideas?
[10:17] <airtonix> foug: but you will need to specify that to the route rso it can port forwared it
[10:17] <ziroday> HKJGN_: so what exactly is the issue resolution or something else?
[10:17] <variant> Phylo: sorry, my mistake. your need to have "nameserver ipaddress" in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:17] <eck> mrmonday: you can't, the limit is 4 GB
[10:17] <mrmonday> eck, Iknow
[10:17] <airtonix> the port number you choose will go into the web page that you usee to control your port forwarding
[10:17] <eck> mrmonday: use another filesystem, it is impossible
[10:17] <kaiserkoln> mr, 5x1024=
[10:17] <zie> how do i convert videos in linux
[10:17] <zie> how do i convert videos in linux
[10:17] <gordonjcp> eck: try replying to an email from eBay
[10:17] <Phylo> so add "nameserver " to the beginning of each line?
[10:17] <foug> airtonix: ok i picked ports
[10:17] <airtonix> foug: can you empty the wbpage form of data and screenshot it for me
[10:18] <gordonjcp> eck: or indeed, any other email in HTML format
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: yes
[10:18] <HKJGN_> ziroday: i'd guess resolution, the screens all, well, distorted and etc, lines going across the screen and nothing is readable
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: exactly
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: it's the thing under applications & gaming, port forwarding
[10:18] <zie> how do i convert videos in linux
[10:18] <moDumass> BTW i broke X rebooted got that grey screen that says "you mashed wanna see a list of things you broke" and i fixed it via command line, it was as if i was channel kevin mtnick
[10:18] <Phylo> YAAAAY
[10:18] <airtonix> foug: lol you have a linksys too?
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: great
[10:18] <Phylo> I entered the wrong IPS
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:18] <moDumass> if he was a drummer for def leopard and only had one arm
[10:18] <HKJGN_> ziroday: like when you set a resolution the monitor cant handle
[10:18] <Phylo> (by one number)
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: lol :P
[10:18] <zie> i need to convert a .ogg file to an avi or mpg file.
[10:18] <zie> so i need help
[10:18] <mrmonday> eck, I have to use fat32 to back up my files to, and some of my files are too big
[10:18] <tomplast> Hi people. Could anyone help we with finding some floppy distro which has usb support? I really want Ubuntu installed on my old laptop (no internet atm, needs ndiswrapper or kernel compilation, no cdrom)?. Help is appreciated.
[10:18] <Phylo> I double checked it and it pinged
[10:18] <airtonix> foug : AG241?
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: not sure
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: where do i find out?
[10:19] <airtonix> foug: says on the front
[10:19] <variant> Phylo: ok, add them to the dns settings in the gui, as /etc/resolv.conf will be reset by the startup scripts depending on what you put in that gui
[10:19] <Phylo> I love you...
[10:19] <zie> if anyone could help that would be good
[10:19] <mrmonday> eck, what can I do?
[10:19] <ziroday> HKJGN_: um rite if its resolution then you have to add the resolution to your xorg do you know how to do that?
[10:19] <eck> mrmonday: you need to use another filesystem. you _cannot_ put them on fat32. you can use split to split up the files into smaller chunks, but it will be a pita
[10:19] <variant> Phylo: I know i know... :)
[10:19] <HKJGN_> ziroday: yeah
[10:19] <airtonix> foug: is it 4 port as well?
[10:19] <ziroday> HKJGN_: have you done it yet?
[10:19] <Phylo> variant:  lol, I don't know what you mean though... oh nvm
[10:19] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:19] <Phylo> what I tried to do earlier?
[10:19] <foug> airtonix: 4 port switch ?
[10:19] <Phylo> (what I did)
[10:20] <airtonix> foug: little ellipse on the front with adsl2 gateway
[10:20] <zie> anyone know how to convert video files into mpg or avi in lunux. if you do let me know. thanks
[10:20] <fat_ass> c
[10:20] <variant> Phylo: yeah, in the network-manager on the DNS tab put in those ip addresses
[10:20] <mrmonday> eck, whats a pita?
[10:20] <foug> airtonix: nah i don't think so
[10:20] <HKJGN_> ziroday: not yet, i think i might know how to fix it, just have to ask a question, if i change my resolution in one Session, will it stay the same in another session? "Gnome to Gnome with XGL?"
[10:20] <ziroday> zie: how large cause you can try online
[10:20] <airtonix> foug : okies no need forscreenie then
[10:20] <eck> mrmonday: google it ;-)
[10:20] <Wries1> my media player gxine is not playing any of my mp3 files, is there another music player I can use?
[10:20] <foug> airtonix:  k
[10:20] <zie> its a .ogg file
[10:20] <gordonjcp> eck: filing a bug elicts the response "Don't use HTML mail then"
[10:20] <Phylo> mother...
[10:20] <variant> Phylo: you will also have to change what happens when you connect. in the main tab select your network interface and click properites, from there you have to UNTICK "get dns servers automatically" or whatever it's called
[10:20] <Phylo> I was still plugged in...
[10:21] <variant> Phylo: annoying, should still work though
[10:21] <zie> ziroday, its a .ogg
[10:21] <Phylo> phew...
[10:21] <moDumass> hmmm, in clock how do i add tasks or appointments?
[10:21] <airtonix> foug: ok the application coloum is for your beneifit and smnp apps
[10:21] <Phylo> it looked like it wasn't working but it did
[10:21] <ziroday> HKJGN_: i think for all
[10:21] <variant> Phylo: :P
[10:21] <ziroday> zie: online you can at www.media-convert.org
[10:21] <eck> gordonjcp: on the gnome bugzilla?
[10:21] <airtonix> foug: the external port no is the one the internet seees
[10:21] <zie> ok ill try
[10:22] <airtonix> foug: put the number that others expect to usee...
[10:22] <foug> airtonix: ok...i just put whatever numbers like you told me too
[10:22] <Phylo> what main tab?
[10:22] <zie> www.media-convert.org isnt a website
[10:22] <ziroday> zie: gimme  a min
[10:22] <airtonix> foug : the internal port is the local-network side port no to use.....yeh you can put 9999 for the external and 9999 for internal
[10:22] <zie> ok
[10:22] <variant> Phylo: when you open the networ-settings or whatever it's called, the first thing thats displayed with the list of eth0, wlan0 etc is the "main" tab
[10:23] <Phylo> the wireless connection settings goesn't have anything about dns
[10:23] <foug> airtonix: k, the numbers weren't eh same but ok
[10:23] <Phylo> (properties doesn't have...)
[10:23] <ziroday> zie: here http://media-convert.com/
[10:23] <Wries1> my media player gxine is not playing any of my mp3 files, is there another music player I can use?
[10:23] <foug> airtonix: on this forum it says i need to forward TCP port range 9000-9010 from 192.168.0.42.3.
[10:23] <foug> airtonix: but that IP is too big to type into my box lol
[10:23] <ziroday> Wries1: do you have the codecs?
[10:23] <gordonjcp> eck: yup
[10:23] <zie> pk
[10:23] <gordonjcp> eck: it's basically useless as a mail client
[10:23] <airtonix> foug: ok the ip addressi nthat forum is an aexmaple
[10:23] <eck> gordonjcp: it is basically maintained by novell, i wouldn't be entirely surprised if they do a crappy job at maintaining it. but as it stands evolution is fairly well integrated with a number of the components in gnome
[10:23] <zie> ok
[10:23] <variant> Phylo: the main tab: http://photos8.flickr.com/11230002_ee41ca2d3a.jpg
[10:23] <Cosmo_> after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?
[10:24] <gordonjcp> eck: well, not really
[10:24] <airtonix> you put the ip address of the machine that your unnning your irc on
[10:24] <gordonjcp> it's a lash-up
[10:24] <gordonjcp> it doesn't integrate well with anything
[10:24] <eck> gordonjcp: a lot of applications use eds
[10:24] <ChrisCorba> Hey guys, I am trying a fresh install of Feisty on my acer laptop but it always breaks because it cannot find my (ordinary) cdrom. Similar bugs are already reported. How long may it take to wait for a new working install CD?
[10:24] <Phylo> right, that tab->wireless connection->properties->  no dns
[10:24] <variant> Phylo: in that screen, click on the interface you want to configure then click properties
[10:24] <airtonix> foug: for ranges tpye it like 9000-9010
[10:24] <airtonix> in the external
[10:24] <foug> airtonix: i did
[10:24] <airtonix> and internal
[10:24] <foug> airtonix: how do i find out my IP address? lol
[10:24] <airtonix> foug: ohhhhh
[10:24] <Phylo> it does say:  configuration:  automatic (DHCP)
[10:25] <airtonix> foug: sorry wrong place
[10:25] <variant> Phylo: i see what you mean
[10:25] <airtonix> foug erase those
[10:25] <foug> airtonix: ok
[10:25] <variant> Phylo: ok, annoying. a little config file editing is required :/
[10:25] <zie> ziroday, it worked
[10:25] <zie> thanks
[10:25] <Phylo> why do anything further
[10:25] <eck> gordonjcp: evolution is definitely one of my least favorite gnome programs, but I prefer it over thunderbird... i'm not sure what that says about both of them :-\
[10:25] <ziroday> zie: np
[10:25] <Phylo> what is not yet going to work?
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: because when you reboot it will query the router for dns settings again and (i think) overwrite your manually entered dns settings.
[10:26] <Phylo> oook
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: actually, perhaps it will just add to rather than overwrite
[10:26] <Phylo> should I try it?
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: try it, it will probably just add in 192.168.1.1 as annother dns server
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: in which case it's not a problem
[10:26] <Phylo> so reboot?
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: might make it take a bit longer to conect to sites though
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: no, just run this
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:27] <moDumass> hey all, um, when i hover over minimize, maximise or well pretty much anything on the top border of a window a small thumbnail of that window appears, any idea how to turn that off
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: that should do the trick
[10:27] <moDumass> since it seams rather pointless
[10:27] <ziroday> moDumass: you running beryl
[10:27] <moDumass> it doesnt do it when that window is "rolled up"
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: "reboot" huh...
[10:27] <variant> :)
[10:27] <Phylo> what?
[10:27] <moDumass> ziroday, yeh but that channel well, they say nothing
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: rebooting is what you do with windows
[10:28] <Phylo> I just noticed, that what I pinged www.google.com  it did all the ms times etc, then it  said something about www.l.google.com
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: ;)
[10:28] <Phylo> I just find that interesting
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: yeah thats just a google sub domain
[10:28] <Phylo> oh, in Linux (any) you just restart stuff while the computer keeps going?
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: as the google website runs on more than just one single server or netwrok
[10:28] <Phylo> woah, it's still doing stuff
[10:28] <mrmonday> anyone know some good software for cutting files in half, then gluing them back together?
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: yes, everything except the kenrel
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: kernel
[10:28] <eck> mrmonday: split
[10:28] <ziroday> moDumass: that shouldnt happen try deleting your preferences folder (you will lose all your preferences) in /home/<username>/.beryl
[10:29] <eck> mrmonday: it should be installed by default
[10:29] <Phylo> ok it stopped
[10:29] <mrmonday> eck, how do I get to it?
[10:29] <variant> Phylo: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:29] <variant> Phylo: see if it changed
[10:29] <Phylo> sniffle
[10:29] <Phylo> it reset
[10:29] <eck> mrmonday: it is a terminal application
[10:29] <variant> Phylo: what is in resolv.conf?
[10:29] <Phylo> (I just checked the network settings)
[10:29] <airtonix> foug: all good sofar?
[10:30] <Phylo> what is "/etc"?
[10:30] <foug> airtonix: what? no, nothing works
[10:30] <variant> Phylo: a directory
[10:30] <Cosmo_> after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?
[10:30] <airtonix> foug: i sen you private messages
[10:30] <foug> airtonix: k
[10:30] <variant> Phylo: commonly used to store config files for the system
[10:30] <Phylo> variant:  does it stand for anything in particular?
[10:30] <Phylo> or just "etcetera"?
[10:30] <variant> Phylo: probably..
[10:30] <foug> Phylo: what do you think man? lol
[10:30] <Phylo> variant:  well it definitely reset
[10:30] <Phylo> variant:  same as what it was before
[10:30] <mrmonday> eck, how does it work?
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: ok, lets edit the config file then :)
[10:31] <Phylo> the search domain invalid thing and 192.168.1.1 twice
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: not hard
[10:31] <Phylo> ok
[10:31] <protocol1> I accidentally deleted the intd folder in the .theme folder is there any way to recover that?
[10:31] <ziroday> protocol1: in trash?
[10:31] <Phylo> what's the manual edit for resolv.conf again?
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: i just have to find the specific file.. not done it for a year or so
[10:31] <ssam> Bradford, did you find the powerpc info you were looking for?
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[10:31] <marc__> Hi! I've got a question: I'd like to download more than one file with BitTorrent, but when i start a second one i get the message Couldn't listen (98, 'address already in use') how can i change that?
[10:32] <protocol1> ziroday, nope
[10:32] <eck> mrmonday: e.g. 'split -db 100000 foo.txt bar' this will create files bar00, bar01, bar02 and so forth from foo.txt that are each 100000 bytes
[10:32] <variant> marc__: the default client is intensly annoying in that it only supports one download at a time... absurd as that seems
[10:32] <ziroday> protocol1: youre stuffed i could give you mine?
[10:32] <marc__> okay, thanks
[10:32] <eck> mrmonday: you glue them back together with cat
[10:32] <mrmonday> how?
[10:32] <marc__> but ktorrent can download more than one file -.-
[10:32] <mrmonday> eck, can I specify 2 pieces?
[10:33] <Loco> hello how can i install or setup the skydome feature in beryl?
[10:33] <protocol1> ziroday, thx
[10:33] <variant> Phylo: will be back in 2 mins. gotta get a coffee
[10:33] <Phylo> variant:  ok, I set the resolv.conf file back to the right settings
[10:33] <protocol1> that would help
[10:33] <Phylo> ok :-(
[10:33] <ziroday> protocol1: where do you want it?
[10:33] <moDumass> ziroday, in  /home/<username>/.beryl there are 2 files "libberylsettings.ini" and "settings" but no prefs folder
[10:33] <marc__> okay, thx for help
[10:33] <marc__> bye
[10:33] <moDumass> any ideas?
[10:33] <protocol1> email right
[10:33] <moDumass> or jsut one of those two
[10:33] <airtonix> marc__: use rtorrent isntead
[10:33] <ziroday> moDumass: delete .beryl
[10:33] <marc__> rtorrent?
[10:33] <moDumass> cool, thanks
[10:33] <ziroday> protocol1: np what email
[10:33] <eck> mrmonday: no, you specify the size you want
[10:33] <marc__> can i find that in the ubuntu pakages?
[10:34] <Phylo> what exactly does "sudo" mean and how does it differ from "gksudo"
[10:34] <Phylo> ?
[10:34] <ziroday> moDumass: np
[10:34] <marc__> *look for it*
[10:34] <moDumass> ziroday, restart x
[10:34] <airtonix> marc__: it use ncurse as it interface display....runs in the terminal and is low on memory
[10:34] <eck> mrmonday: you can use the suffix m for megabytes
[10:34] <variant> marc__: see azureus.. rtorrent sucks
[10:34] <ziroday> moDumass: yeah
[10:34] <protocol1> merculiv@gmail.com
[10:34] <eck> rtorrent is the best :-)
[10:34] <ziroday> marc__: deluge is the best of the lot
[10:34] <variant> marc__: actually rtorrent is excellent, but you will say it sucks.
[10:34] <variant> marc__: :)
[10:34] <Pieter_> hey guys, any ideas on where to get a codec to play .rmvb files?
[10:34] <ziroday> protocol1: what file again?
[10:34] <variant> eck: i agree actualy :P
[10:34] <airtonix> Phylo: gksudo loads up gtk interfaces in the root profile where sudo loadds it up in the useers profile....i think
[10:34] <airtonix> Phylo: you rad that wiki lik i gave yo>
[10:34] <h4wk0_> Morning, Following this at the min
[10:34] <robert98374> Freeloader works fairly well and its not a major memory hog
[10:34] <h4wk0_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135036
[10:35] <marc__> why do you think so?
[10:35] <marc__> because it runs on the terminal?
[10:35] <airtonix> variant: i disagree most heartly
[10:35] <Phylo> airtonix:  I'm not actually sure what you just said.
[10:35] <h4wk0_> Howeber i cant seem to find the XDMCP option
[10:35] <eck> marc__: rtorrent isn't really worth the trouble unless you're a screen junkie
[10:35] <variant> airtonix: correct about gksudo
[10:35] <variant> Phylo: it's not important to our current discussion
[10:35] <ziroday> marc__: get deluge its the best
[10:35] <marc__> hmm
[10:35] <marc__> okay
[10:35] <Phylo> no the "Phylo: you rad that wiki lik i gave yo>"
[10:36] <marc__> ill try
[10:36] <Phylo> is that a question?
[10:36] <airtonix> marc__: no cause it does everything i can choose to load a speciifc file or a protion of it i can limit spees everything...and it dont slow my system down with heaps of torrents
[10:36] <airtonix> deluge still needs to iron out some issues but es it is quite good, when it switchs from meory hungry python to c++
[10:37] <variant> Phylo: ok, back to what we were doing
[10:37] <marc__> okay, i will try it, but now i have to go
[10:37] <marc__> thx for the help =)
[10:37] <marc__> bye
[10:37] <h4wk0_> In a tutorial i am follwing, one of the steps is System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup Security Tab -> Enable XDMCP XDMCP Tab -> Disable "Honor Indirect Requests"
[10:37] <Phylo> variant:  right now we are trying to figure out how to make the manual dns settings stick right?
[10:37] <variant> Phylo: gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:37] <airtonix> rtorrent is good in a fault tolerant way cause you can keep it running ina virutal terminal and log x out
[10:37] <h4wk0_> I cant see it, im on feisty
[10:37] <variant> airtonix: type /lastlog variant and youw ill see that i agree that it's excelelnt
[10:37] <ziroday> protocol1: what fie?
[10:38] <eck> airtonix: you can run it in screen over ssh, which is even better
[10:38] <Phylo> variant:  opened
[10:38] <Bradford> samm, nope
[10:38] <sarasini> hi all
[10:38] <ziroday> protocol1: what file again ??
[10:38] <variant> Phylo: you see where it says "request subnet-mask, bre.. etc etc
[10:38] <Bradford> ssam*
[10:38] <nixbox> hi all
[10:38] <nixbox> is there a way to SSH into the live CD, i have a machine without the monitor, i have booted it using the live CD, how do i connect to it?
[10:38] <h4wk0_> In a tutorial i am follwing, one of the steps is System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup Security Tab -> Enable XDMCP XDMCP Tab -> Disable "Honor Indirect Requests" -- However i cant see this on my fiesty :(:)
[10:38] <airtonix> lol
[10:38] <variant> nixbox: start sshd and set a user password
[10:38] <airtonix> woops
[10:38] <ssam> Bradford, what do yo need to know
[10:38] <Phylo> yes
[10:38] <Phylo> variant:  yes
[10:39] <variant> Phylo: ok, see where it says in the request section "name-servers" ?
[10:39] <nixbox> variant, how do i do that without the monitor? :P
[10:39] <variant> Phylo: remove "name-servers"
[10:39] <UberPsyX> hi, im running ubuntu on a fairly oldish pc, im also trying to run a game called dofus but it runs really slowly, i have a family pc running windows and it works fine on there. any suggestions on how i could speed it up?
[10:39] <Phylo> "domain-name-servers"
[10:39] <Flannel> nixbox: Only way to do it would be to install openssh-server, so... ctrl-alt-f1, then "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[10:39] <Phylo> yes
[10:39] <airtonix> Phylo: goto wiki.ubuntu.com   then serach for sudo
[10:39] <variant> nixbox: if your l337 you can do it blind :) otherwise you need the monitor
[10:39] <Flannel> nixbox: then... hmm.  You might need a "y"
[10:39] <nixbox> variant, i have a laptop, can i somehow shift the display for the PC onto the laptop's LCD display?
[10:39] <Bradford> ssam, if osx will allow a second partition
[10:39] <protocol1> ziroday, the folder in .themes  called initd
[10:39] <variant> Phylo: yes
[10:40] <Flannel> nixbox: hmm.  I don't believe you need to login, but you might.  So, type "ubuntu" and then hit enter twice, after the ctrl-alt-f1
[10:40] <protocol1> ziroday, everything that was in it basically
[10:40] <ssam> Bradford, yes osx is fine with lots of partitions
[10:40] <Phylo> removed, saved
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: under that
[10:40] <nixbox> Flannel, i knew that one :P, lets try hehe
[10:40] <ziroday> protocol1: i dont have that folder is that a theme name?
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: not finnsihed yet
[10:40] <ssam> Bradford, my powerbook is setup as a dual boot
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: in the same file
[10:40] <Phylo> #require?
[10:40] <Flannel> nixbox: Oh.  Also do a "sudo apt-get update" first.  Since, it'll need to know about the online stuffs
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: just under than line is "require subnet-mask, domain-name-servers;"
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: remove domain-name-servers but leave in subnet-mask
[10:41] <Phylo> I want "#require subnet-mask;" right?
[10:41] <kortnor> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[10:41] <protocol1> ziroday, so its not default then right?
[10:41] <Phylo> removed, saved
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: no, did you add the comment to require?
[10:41] <Phylo> no
[10:41] <Bradford> ssam, did you Install OS X at the same time or after Ubuntu?
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: ah!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:41] <ziroday> protocol1: nope just change your theme and you shuld be fine
[10:41] <Phylo> lol
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: we just discovered why it wasn't working in the first place
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: lol
[10:41] <Phylo> 90% of the file has "#" before the line
[10:41] <protocol1> ok
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: yeah thast ok,
[10:42] <ssam> Bradford, the best method is to reinstall mac os x, and use the mac os x disktool to do the partitoning
[10:42] <Phylo> soooo, all I had to do was change uncomment that line?
[10:42] <variant> Phylo: however when the pc asks for the dhcp lease from the router it wasn't rquireing that it provide name servers
[10:42] <variant> Phylo: not nessasarily
[10:42] <ssam> Bradford, if you leave some of the disk as unallocated, then the ubuntu installer can pick that bit up
[10:42] <Phylo> ok well anyways, do I do anything else now?
[10:42] <Bradford> ssam, well that's my problem... my life is on this Hdd... I don't want to loose ANYTHING
[10:43] <Cosmo_> after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: don't uncomment it. you should just have removed domain-name-servers from request and (optionally) require
[10:43] <ssam> Bradford, the other option is to resize the existing mac os x partiton
[10:43] <Phylo> removed, saved
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: now try /etc/init.d/networking restart again
[10:43] <ssam> Bradford, but there is a risk of that going wrong
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: with sudo
[10:43] <Phylo> try that restart thing?
[10:43] <Ix0s> Bradford, Morning :)
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: yep
[10:43] <Phylo> working:
[10:43] <ssam> Bradford, if you don't have a back up then please dont try to install ubuntu :-)
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: did you add your name servers back into the gui?
[10:43] <Phylo> yeah
[10:43] <Bradford> ssam, well, what all could go wrong???
[10:44] <variant> cool cool
[10:44] <Phylo> oh
[10:44] <Phylo> no
[10:44] <Phylo> not the gui
[10:44] <variant> don't worry
[10:44] <Phylo> I edited the file directly
[10:44] <variant> shouldn't matter
[10:44] <Bradford> Ix0s, How are you? Where do you live?
[10:44] <steve_h> bonjour, les enfants
[10:44] <variant> ok, lets see if it works still then. the edit we did to the config should stop it changing Resolv.conf
[10:44] <Phylo> wow, this has taken like 3 hours to wirelessly connect...
[10:44] <Phylo> (not that it isn't worth it)
[10:44] <ssam> Bradford, resizing partitions is a new thing. it doe not always work
[10:45] <Ix0s> Bradford, Am great, better after some sleep, Ohh Manchester UK
[10:45] <Phylo> done restarting
[10:45] <Phylo> *cries*
[10:45] <steve_h> ah, i see, wireless approaches to ubuntu are being discussed here (c:
[10:45] <variant> Phylo: wireless is still immature on free software sadly, some realy nice progress being made recently. I would say that within a year it will be far simpler to connect with free software over wireless (for supported cards) than any toher os
[10:45] <ssam> Ix0s, i am in manchester too :-)
[10:45] <Ix0s> ssam, Kool :)
[10:45] <variant> Phylo: not worky?
[10:45] <Bradford> Ix0s, oic. I'm in California... figuring linux out @ a party... I'm a little tipsy ;)
[10:45] <Phylo> it reset them
[10:46] <variant> asdfasfd
[10:46] <ssam> Ix0s, victoria park, near the university
[10:46] <variant> Phylo: please pastebin that config file
[10:46] <Ix0s> ssam, Umm miles away from me :P Oldham here XD
[10:46] <Phylo> which one
[10:46] <eck> variant: with the "for supported cards" of course being the big caveat ;-)
[10:46] <variant> eck: ehehe, indeed
[10:46] <Bradford> ssam, So no matter what I really REALLY need to back everything up... meaning i need another external 60gb..... christ
[10:46] <variant> Phylo: dhcp conf file we editet
[10:46] <Ix0s> Bradford, Hehe, and now you want to go back to mac os x?
[10:46] <ssam> Bradford, get yourself an external hard disk and back up your life
[10:46] <Phylo> k one minute
[10:46] <h4wk0> Ive just installed VNC - However i get a black and white squared screen when i login - Any reason?
[10:47] <Angel-SL> Hello. Okay, so I have the kubuntu-desktop package installed on Ubuntu. How do I change the splash image from Kubuntu's to Ubuntu's?
[10:47] <variant> h4wk0: you vnc'ing to a box with beryl or something?
[10:47] <Bradford> Ix0s, no not so much... looking to keep ubuntu on my Mac :)
[10:47] <phy2> Bradford gives us new meaning for Don't Drink and Drive
[10:47] <ssam> Bradford, you are living dangerously day to day if you dont have a backup
[10:47] <Bradford> ssam, That's $$$ and time, >:o!
[10:47] <h4wk0> variant; Yes i am on my laptop vnc'ing through himachi - to my desktop
[10:47] <Phylo> I can't paste
[10:47] <Angel-SL> Anyone?
[10:47] <ssam> Bradford, how much is your data worth?
[10:47] <load> can someone tell me how to install kde?
[10:48] <Ix0s> Bradford, Why not use a couple of DVDs?
[10:48] <h4wk0> It connects alright (i think) variant - And yes i have beryl installed
[10:48] <Phylo> when I click send to pastebin it pops up a bunch of text (nothing else)
[10:48] <ziroday> load: audo apt-get install kubuntu
[10:48] <Ix0s> load, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <Angel-SL> load: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <variant> h4wk0: afaik, you might need to disable beryl for use over vnc. not 100% ont hat though
[10:48] <Loco> hello how can i install or setup the skydome feature in beryl?
[10:48] <variant> Phylo: annoying
[10:48] <Phylo> Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[10:48] <variant> Phylo: this is becomming a pita indded
[10:48] <Ix0s> Loco, Look under the desktop cube setting
[10:48] <Bradford> ssam, over a million, and I think OS X can handle itself. I have everything that I absolutely need to live on a 160gb external, but... it's about full.
[10:48] <reddevs> hey guys, is there anyone here who could give me some pointers regarding stereo sound on ubuntu?
[10:49] <load> thanks all :)
[10:49] <ssam> Bradford, so you have a lot of data
[10:49] <ziroday> load: sorry run Ix0s command
[10:49] <Ix0s> Loco, Desktop-->Desktop Cube-->Skydome
[10:49] <variant> Phylo: ok, try putting your dns settings into the gui again
[10:49] <Phylo> variant:  we have made lots of progress though
[10:49] <Bradford> Ix0s, iBook G4, combo drive
[10:49] <variant> Phylo: indeed
[10:49] <Phylo> I could technically reset them each time I use my computer
[10:49] <Loco> Ix0s, yeah i see it thanx very much
[10:49] <Ix0s> Loco, :)
[10:49] <variant> Phylo: not idea, or nessasary
[10:50] <Phylo> (I already have them memorized)
[10:50] <variant> Phylo: ideal*
[10:50] <variant> Phylo: lol
[10:50] <Phylo> I know
[10:50] <Bradford> ssam, Yeah... It's where I back up my cache of OS's/application
[10:50] <Ix0s> Bradford, Dude you cant be telling me you have like 220GB of stuff you NEED all the time?
[10:50] <Phylo> variant:  ok, entered using UGI
[10:50] <Phylo> GUI
[10:50] <Phylo> closed network settings
[10:51] <Ix0s> Bradford, caches of what?
[10:51] <Bradford> Ix0s, YES. Well, I have some 80gigs of music... (GOOD MUSIC)
[10:51] <h4wk0> variant; Unstill all of berly
[10:51] <variant> Phylo: as a tempory fix just while we fix the issue you can "save location" in the network-settins gui, after you put in all the right info click on the icon that looks like a floppy disk at the top
[10:51] <h4wk0> Lets see what happens now - restart..
[10:51] <variant> h4wk0: no, just turn it off
[10:51] <Ix0s> Bradford, Jebus! I have like an ipod full and thats it!
[10:52] <Bradford> Ix0s, weapons
[10:52] <Phylo> variant:  it says in the file "this is a sample configuration file for dhclient"
[10:52] <Phylo> (in a comment)
[10:52] <Bradford> Ix0s, what else?
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: hmm
[10:52] <ssam> Bradford, you can get 300GB firewire disks in the UK for about 100, and everything is meant to be cheaper in the states
[10:52] <Ix0s> Bradford, cache of  weapons :P
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: yes thats ok, it is the correct file
[10:52] <h4wk0> variant; I wanted to see if it worked with it fully uninstalled, then  go to intsall but disabled
[10:52] <Phylo> ok
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: openthat file again actually
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: i just spotted something usefull
[10:53] <Phylo> should I save to a new location?
[10:53] <Phylo> if so, to what
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: name it whatever.. home or something
[10:53] <Bradford> Ix0s, yeah... no other way to go... Mac's aren't ALWAYS peaceful
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: NO
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: wait, are you editing the dhcp config file again?
[10:53] <Phylo> doh.. I saved to seomthing
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: or in the network manger gui
[10:53] <Phylo> k
[10:53] <Phylo> I used the manager gui
[10:53] <Bradford> ssam, Well I haven't looked too much into it... If I had $100 I'd save it for a Mac Pro
[10:54] <Phylo> set the right dns ips
[10:54] <reddevs> does anyone know how i can make my onboard sound produce stereo instead of mono?
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: ahh, please stop and tell me the current state of play
[10:54] <Phylo> clicked the floppy
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: perfect
[10:54] <Phylo> saved as netsettings
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: ideal
[10:54] <Ix0s> Bradford, Hehe!
[10:54] <phy2> Bradford, sell part of your million dollars worth of data and move on
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf again
[10:54] <Phylo> now you want me to edit that ... ok
[10:55] <Ix0s> Bradford, Theres gotta be some stuff you can get rid off off that ext hd?
[10:55] <phab> is there a guide to rebuilding font-config with the propriatry TrueType hinting support? I hope i'm asking the question correctly
[10:55] <variant> Phylo: and you see just above where "request" is, the next line up is a commented line called "prepend"
[10:55] <Phylo> indeed
[10:55] <Phylo> (interestingly, nowhere in the file is the text "192.168.1.1" which is what it resets the dns's too)
[10:56] <variant> Phylo: ok, the ip address thats there 127.0.0.1 you can remove and replace with your dns servers like this:
[10:56] <variant> Phylo: thats because thats the ip address that your router has, dhcp sets it based on what the router tells it
[10:56] <variant> Phylo: replace with this line:
[10:56] <h4wk0> Humm variant I can even login now :s
[10:56] <h4wk0> Connection refused
[10:56] <Phylo> I have DHCP turned on, is that bad?
[10:57] <Phylo> (waiting for exact syntax)
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: "prepend domain-name-servers FIRSTIP, SECONDIP;"
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: no, thats good. please don't get ahead of your self again just stick wtih what we are doing
[10:57] <eck> phab: you might be interested in david turner's freetype patches, they don't enable the proprietary hinting (afaik), but they make the fonts look a lot like they would with it on
[10:57] <Phylo> gotcha
[10:57] <Phylo> variant:  just asking :-)
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: np :)
[10:57] <phab> eck, ooooooh... :) got a link?
[10:57] <Phylo> variant:  I promise I won't change anything without telling you (or you just told me)
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: also remove the # at the start of taht line
[10:58] <Phylo> ok, I added them, and ok yeah, so I will remove that comment
[10:58] <Phylo> symbol
[10:58] <phab> eck, they hurt my eyes the way they are right now at 1680x1050 and lowering my resolution on an lcd makes them really blurry
[10:58] <variant> Phylo: save/exit/restart network
[10:58] <h4wk0_> variant:  I am getting the error - ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream
[10:58] <Phylo> working
[10:58] <eck> phab: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670
[10:58] <Phylo> just curious:  what does your "request" line say?
[10:58] <variant> h4wk0_: did you disable beryl? (not uninstall)
[10:59] <h4wk0_> I uninstalled
[10:59] <variant> Phylo: i don't use dhcp
[10:59] <phab> eck, thank you!!!
[10:59] <Phylo> ok
[10:59] <h4wk0_> variant:  Didnt know how to disable it
[10:59] <variant> Phylo: but the default has: subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name, host-name
[10:59] <variant> h4wk0_: so what di dyou do?
[11:00] <Phylo> mine ha_d__ "domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name"
[11:00] <Phylo> yeah, mine had two more after that
[11:00] <johnt> !tuxpaint printer options
[11:00] <Phylo> netbios-name-servers
[11:00] <variant> Phylo: ok
[11:00] <Phylo> and netbios, something
[11:00] <Phylo> anyway
[11:00] <Phylo> restart is done
[11:00] <variant> Phylo: yes mine too
[11:00] <eck> phab: i think at some point they're even going to make it into the upstream freetype release :-)
[11:00] <Phylo> better
[11:00] <Phylo> but not ideal
[11:00] <eck> david turner is one of the freetype devs
[11:01] <Phylo> it added
[11:01] <variant> Phylo: whats the situation
[11:01] <Phylo> old+new
[11:01] <phab> alright, definately good news
[11:01] <variant> Phylo: lol, as i though
[11:01] <phab> im happy tho hear about those
[11:01] <variant> Phylo: so, does ping www.google.com work?
[11:01] <Phylo> yeah, that's what it looked like it should do
[11:01] <Phylo> yes
[11:01] <johnt> Does any one know if I can change the print options in tuxpaint?
[11:02] <variant> Phylo: great, not ideal as you say as it's a bit messy and shouldn't need to be done liket hat (i would like to have access to your files myself so i could check it out) but if it works, don't fix it :D
[11:02] <indokidz> hi
[11:02] <Phylo> so as is, you recommend just using it this way?
[11:03] <h4wk0> variant;  I apt-get removed beryl and beryl manager
[11:03] <variant> Phylo: partly because i don't really want to keep talking :) but partly because, it's working and it is acceptable in the short term. we can have another crack at it next time if you want
[11:03] <indokidz> any can teach me how to compile realtek HD audio drivers here? i'm a newbie
[11:03] <variant> h4wk0: ok, beryl will still be running
[11:03] <variant> h4wk0: i reccomend you apt-get install beryl beryl-manager again
[11:03] <h4wk0> Well ive just restarted
[11:04] <variant> h4wk0: and killall beryl instead
[11:04] <Ace2016> hi all
[11:04] <Ace2016> anyone get gfxboot working in grub on feisty???
[11:04] <Phylo> well, I find that hard to argue with, until then, endless thank you's
[11:04] <variant> h4wk0: when done remotely over ssh the command "killall beryl" will disable beryl temporarily
[11:04] <variant> Phylo: yw
[11:04] <variant> Phylo: let me know if you get any more probs
[11:05] <Phylo> variant:  pastebin doesn't work
[11:05] <Phylo> X-D!!
[11:05] <variant> Phylo: i don't care :P
[11:05] <pwuertz> does anybody know if/when gaim will be replaced with pidgin?
[11:05] <variant> pwuertz: soon
[11:05] <pwuertz> in feisty..
[11:05] <crimsun> pwuertz: it won't be.
[11:05] <variant> pwuertz: no idea
[11:05] <Stormx2> Hey. I've run a copy on a large directory (8000 ish files). The new directory has 40 less files than the previous. How can I view this difference?
[11:05] <load> everytime i try to boot up I can sign in but then it takes me right back to the sign in screen.. i think i need to fix gnome.. is there anyway to reinstall gnome?
[11:05] <Ix0s> indokidz, You shouldnt need them? I never have done the built in ones are good enough
[11:05] <variant> crimsun: why not?
[11:05] <variant> crimsun: of course it will
[11:05] <crimsun> variant: because we don't change frozen, released distros.
[11:05] <Phylo> new question, is there anyway I can have my login use capital letters?
[11:05] <variant> crimsun: ah, your right!
[11:06] <Ace2016> anyone using gfxboot at all???
[11:06] <adaptr> Phylo what do you mean, "use" ? it either is or it isn't
[11:06] <johnt> Does any one know if I can change the print options in tuxpaint? My grandaughter needs to print an A4 cover page from it
[11:06] <Phylo> when I installed Ubunutu it would let me use "PhyloGenesis" as my login name
[11:06] <pwuertz> crimsun: frozen? we are using a beta in favor over a stable release?
[11:06] <Phylo> it said it had to be all lowercase
[11:06] <adaptr> ah
[11:07] <adaptr> that would be the installer
[11:07] <crimsun> pwuertz: yes.  We do not change the state of a frozen, released distro.
[11:07] <jpiccolo> how would i go about installing the locate feature?
[11:07] <variant> Phylo: there are patches to allow it i beleive but it is not reccomended as unix cares about upper/lower case and that could cause confusion if there were a user named mark and one who wanted Mark
[11:07] <crimsun> pwuertz: people have queried regarding feisty-backports, which is a possibility.
[11:07] <pwuertz> ah i see
[11:07] <Phylo> variant:  I don't want a user named "phylogenesis" I always use "PhyloGenesis"
[11:07] <variant> Phylo: sorry, can't be done at the momment
[11:08] <variant> Phylo: and probably shouldn't be done
[11:08] <johnt> !tuxpaint
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxpaint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <Phylo> ok
[11:08] <adaptr> variant patches ? I can create one with useradd just fine
[11:08] <variant> Phylo: for the afore mentioned reason. I suppose settig gdm to uppercase the first character wouldnt hurt
[11:08] <hylje> hmm
[11:08] <variant> adaptr: you can?
[11:08] <hylje> after enabling the built-in desktop effects
[11:08] <adaptr> of course, lowercase is just a convention; it's the installer that prohibits it
[11:08] <hylje> windows don't autoraise on rollover
[11:08] <FocusRite> Hi all.
[11:09] <variant> adaptr: was years ago i read about that exact same issue cus i wanted my username uppercase.. just assumed it would be the same reason
[11:09] <variant> adaptr: i see
[11:09] <variant> Phylo: see what adaptr said
[11:09] <adaptr> variant I'm not sure what you mean... it solely depends on how theuseradd command is implemented
[11:09] <variant> adaptr: yeah exactly
[11:09] <FocusRite> Just put 1TB of sata drives in the server and syslog sees them (scsi0, scsi1) but I was expecting to see sda, sdb in /dev based on that but nothing there. what /den name should sata drives have?
[11:09] <adaptr> it has little - if anything - to do with any particular distro
[11:09] <variant> adaptr: whatever os i was using at the time did not allow it
[11:10] <FocusRite> err /dev not /den :)
[11:10] <adaptr> f'rinstance, Red Hat used to - maybe they still do - allow you to specify your password on the passwd commandline - that's a hack made by Red Hat, no other distro's use that
[11:10] <alen> hi
[11:10] <alen> i have a problem
[11:10] <adaptr> say it !
[11:10] <adaptr> !ask
[11:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <johnt> Does any one know if I can change the print options in tuxpaint? My grandaughter needs to print an A4 cover page from it
[11:11] <variant> adaptr: i know it depends on how the program is implemented. when i looked at it on the os i was working on at the time the answer was that there was a patch to the useradd program that would allow it.. obviously some other os's used that feature but mine didn't at the time
[11:11] <alen> how to install grafic driver
[11:11] <alen> my grafic card is nvidia
[11:12] <adaptr> variant no, not that I'm aware of - NOT being able to use mixed case, that would be a patch
[11:12] <variant> !nvidia | alen
[11:12] <ubotu> alen: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:12] <beowu1f> Q: i need to use both ALSA and OSS in my kernel. is it possible for them both to coexist with each other? i have applications with need either or
[11:12] <adaptr> variant still no idea what you mean by "OS"
[11:12] <adaptr> yes
[11:12] <variant> adaptr: unix version
[11:12] <adaptr> variant okay.. that would be potentially different from a Linux distribution, yes
[11:13] <jpiccolo> anyone know what package i need to be able to locate files on the CLI
[11:14] <variant> jpiccolo: slocate is available by default
[11:14] <variant> jpiccolo: you might need to update it's database.. updatedb as root
[11:14] <variant> jpiccolo: or "find"
[11:15] <jpiccolo> variant, ok updatedb worked
[11:15] <h4wk0> variant- still getting same problem
[11:15] <jpiccolo> one more question do you know what package i need for oggdev
[11:16] <variant> jpiccolo: you mean ogg development library? or something to make ogg?
[11:16] <variant> jpiccolo: there lis libogg-dev
[11:16] <variant> if thats what you're looking for
[11:17] <adaptr> jpiccolo aptitude search ogg | grep dev
[11:17] <Angel-SL> Aw great.
[11:17] <Angel-SL> i installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu, now the boot image IS kubuntu.. how do I change it back?
[11:18] <jpiccolo> ok variant and adaptr thanks i didnt know aptitude worked on the cli, i thought it was a gnome thing
[11:18] <jpiccolo> thanks alot guys
[11:18] <Wries1> my media player gxine is not playing any of my mp3 files, is there another music player I can use?
[11:18] <Angel-SL> Anyone??
[11:19] <Fri13> Angel-SL: http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com/2006/12/22/switching-between-ubuntukubuntuxubuntu-uspalsh/
[11:19] <adaptr> Wries1 amaroK beats everything I've ever seen
[11:19] <Fri13> Angel-SL: I haven't done that because i dont use ubuntu anymore.
[11:19] <Wries1> where do I get it
[11:20] <the-erm> I just came in Wries1 where do you get what?
[11:20] <Wries1> amaroK
[11:20] <variant> adaptr: actually, i only have a gentoo and an ubuntu system handy but it seems that gentoo does not allow upper case
[11:20] <adaptr> Wries1 aptitude install amarok, but be warned - if you don't have any KDE apps yet it will probably pull in  a few hundred MB of deps
[11:20] <the-erm> sudo apt-get install amaroK
[11:20] <Julius> hi
[11:21] <Ademan> anyone know what environment variable contains the library paths?
[11:21] <Wries1> how do I know if I have KDE
[11:21] <Julius> i got a big big big problem with feisty. It's the only problem i got with ubuntu for 1 years
[11:21] <adaptr> Wries1 if you just installed Ubuntu, you don't
[11:21] <Tomcat_> Ademan: LD_LIBRARY_PATH afaik
[11:21] <letronje> where can i get the ubuntu human theme for download. its simply awesome.
[11:21] <Ademan> Tomcat_: is that where it looks at runtime for shared objects?
[11:21] <the-erm> Ademan: set will spit out a bunch of variables/values
[11:21] <Ademan> Tomcat_: thanks by the way
[11:21] <adaptr> Ademan run ldconfig -l to see all libs recognised by the system
[11:22] <Wries1> so should I still install it
[11:22] <Tomcat_> Ademan: Yeah, I think so.
[11:22] <Ademan> thanks guys i'll check out
[11:22] <Angel-SL> Fri13: and now my LOGIN screen is Xubuntu!
[11:22] <adaptr> Wries1 I think it's the best music player bar none, but it does depend on a lot of KDE libs
[11:22] <Micieri> *sigh*
[11:22] <Wries1> can I get these libs
[11:22] <zancik> People who knows, how tu install PHOTOSHOP on UBUNTU?
[11:23] <Micieri> Anyone who can help me with a big problem? :/
[11:23] <Ademan> adaptr: well the thing is i wanna add the current directory to the search path (i'm testing a program i wrote with a library i wrote)
[11:23] <Angel-SL> zancik: never heard of Photoshop for Linux.
[11:23] <Seveas> zancik, photoshop is a windows application...
[11:23] <Ademan> adaptr: without installing either of course
[11:23] <Fri13> Micieri: what is your problem?
[11:23] <Micieri> Ugh
[11:23] <Micieri> Well it's kinda big..
[11:23] <Micieri> So we might wanna take it to PM
[11:23] <Jit> hello freinds
[11:23] <jarrett> zancik: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=17
[11:23] <Fri13> Angel-SL: Disney use Photoshop top of Linux.
[11:23] <Wries1> adaptr: where can I get these libs
[11:24] <zancik> LOOK ALL! http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/
[11:24] <Jit> can i install ubuntu with vista
[11:24] <adaptr> Ademan then add . to ldconfig :)
[11:24] <FocusRite> there's a crossover package for photoshop from transgaming or whoever those guys who did crossover MS office are
[11:24] <Julius> i'm on a fresh install of feisty. I'm using it since the release's out but i just got the problem yesterday and now. When i connect to my wifi, first, it works but after a while, the network got a problem and noone can connect to the wifi anymore. I had this problem at 2 places. I uninstalled network-manager but the same problem occur. DO u have any idea ? (and sorry for my poor english :-/)
[11:24] <snowblind> Hi. Can someone recommend a fireworks replacement software (vector based drawing program). Im a new convert.
[11:24] <Wries1> do anyone know how to make the sound work here in chat?
[11:24] <adaptr> Wries1 they will be installed automatically if you choose to install a KDE package that needs them
[11:24] <matevzp> hello, I gotta question. Why does my ubuntu 7.0.4 installation always stop at cca. 30%?
[11:24] <Fri13> snowblind: inkscape
[11:24] <Wries1> oh o
[11:24] <adaptr> Wries1 how do you mean, sound in chat ?
[11:24] <FocusRite> what /dev names should sata devices appear as?
[11:24] <adaptr> FocusRite scsi disks, usually
[11:24] <snowblind> cheers fri ill checkit out
[11:25] <Wries1> in here like if someone answers your questions it'll alert you
[11:25] <Seveas> matevzp, not enough memory? broken cd? disk full?
[11:25] <adaptr> wries that depends on your IRC client, obviously
[11:25] <FocusRite> adaptr, ta.. syslog has spotted the two sata disks i put in as scsi0, scsi1 but there's no sda, sdb in /dev (well there's an sda but cfdisk can't read it)
[11:25] <adaptr> Wries1 that depends on your IRC client, obviously
[11:25] <matevzp> seveas, 30gb free, new CD, 512mb ram ...?
[11:26] <adaptr> FocusRite depending on the driver used, it may be seen as an IDE disk as well
[11:26] <FocusRite> there's a sata_via folder under scsi in /proc but no info in there
[11:26] <Angel-SL> I installed xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, now my login screen is Xubuntu's. How do I change it back?
[11:26] <Seveas> matevzp, did you do a cd selftest?
[11:26] <Wries1> ok this chat has it
[11:26] <adaptr> FocusRite run fdisk -l
[11:26] <FocusRite> ahhh right. I was on edgy, just dist-upgrading to feisty now
[11:26] <matevzp> seveas, just done that
[11:26] <Wries1> I have all the sounds checked but nothing no sound
[11:26] <Seveas> matevzp, hrm..... maybe Bill G. is near you?
[11:27] <variant> adaptr: looks like the patch i was talking about is something that redhat added to shadow utils in order to enable upper case letters in usernames. personally i don't think it's a good idea for the reason i mentioned before but that is only valid if it allows for example "mark" and "Mark"
[11:27] <matevzp> seveas, is there any text installation or only graphic installation via livecd?
[11:27] <FocusRite> adaptr, just shows hda, hdb (ide disks)
[11:27] <FocusRite> there's 4 disks in the box now, 2x120gb ide & 2x 500gb sata
[11:27] <adaptr> variant well, "valid" is debatable - why would similar but case-different usernames cause problems ?
[11:27] <Seveas> matevzp, for text install download the 'alternate install' iso
[11:27] <FocusRite> i saw there's issues mixing sata & ide hence the fesity upgrade
[11:27] <adaptr> FocusRite read through your dmesg - it seems they're not recognised
[11:27] <matevzp> seveas, tnx!
[11:28] <FocusRite> oki doki
[11:28] <Wries1> I don't know what to do
[11:28] <load> how do i reinstall gnome?
[11:28] <adaptr> FocusRite "mixing" ? never seen ANY problems with IDE and SATA on the same box
[11:28] <Micieri> What do I do when after I boot from my Ubuntu HD.. it says 'no inittab file found'? Then when I try to boot from the CD, it says crc error - system halted
[11:28] <variant> adaptr: email addresses are not case sensitive afaik
[11:28] <variant> adaptr: that could cause serious issues
[11:28] <Wries1> the sound plays in everything except here
[11:28] <adaptr> variant that's true - but hhey, whjo needs email ? ;-)
[11:29] <variant> adaptr: :)
[11:29] <adaptr> variant I'm still recovering from the old Windows LANMAN OSes - they had case-insensitive *passwords*
[11:29] <variant> adaptr: omg
[11:30] <adaptr> it's really DECs fault, as they made LANMAN, but Windows perpetuated it
[11:30] <FocusRite> adaptr this looks (to me) like the drives were recognised?? (2-line paste)
[11:30] <FocusRite> [17179571.848000]  ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xEC00 ctl 0xDC02 bmdma 0xCC00 irq 169
[11:30] <FocusRite> [17179571.848000]  ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xD080 ctl 0xD002 bmdma 0xCC08 irq 169
[11:30] <Micieri> Is there an un-official channel somewhere, where I could actually get help?
[11:30] <Wries1> how do you uninstall applications
[11:30] <load> DEC is company that made vax correct?
[11:30] <adaptr> FocusRite there will be (and should be) more info on them
[11:30] <adaptr> load yes, bought by compaq, which is now HP
[11:31] <Fri13> Wries1: apt-get remove <package> or with graphical frontend.
[11:31] <FocusRite> k.. i'll see what the feisty upgrade brings, if anything
[11:31] <adaptr> Wries1 the same place you installed them
[11:31] <variant> Micieri: sounds like a hardware issue
[11:31] <variant> Micieri: or the cd is corrupt slightly and borked your install
[11:31] <Wries1> oh ok
[11:31] <adaptr> Micieri first, you have a bad CD - reburn it
[11:31] <variant> don't know how likely that is
[11:31] <adaptr> Micieri then retry
[11:31] <load> adaptr,  I was looking for a vax for my sister she loves retro computing
[11:31] <adaptr> oh fairly likely
[11:31] <Micieri> A bad CD? Sorry I forgot to mention I done it 4 times, with 2 burning programs
[11:31] <adaptr> load ebay has plenty of them
[11:32] <variant> Micieri: those box of 100 cd's you get for a buck are all bad :)
[11:32] <Micieri> I can't format my HD either.. because I already formatted it, windows doesn't see it
[11:32] <Micieri> I tried DVD's too, actually
[11:32] <variant> Micieri: the winxp cd will still see your hard disk, you can use that to remove the partitions
[11:32] <load> can someone tell me how to reinstall gnome?
[11:32] <Micieri> As in the ones where you buy them in seperate boxes
[11:32] <adaptr> Micieri that's nonsense, the partition may be formatted, but the drive is available
[11:32] <Micieri> Well it's all plugged in and windows doesn't see it..
[11:32] <Micieri> Should I scan for new hardware then?
[11:33] <adaptr> Micieri doesn't see it *where* ? you probably did not look hard enough
[11:33] <load> or how to remove gnome
[11:33] <variant> Micieri: you need to use fdisk
[11:33] <Micieri> ..the hell?
[11:33] <adaptr> erm.. disk manager may be somewhat easier
[11:33] <Wries1> do I have to update my sound maybe
[11:33] <variant> Micieri: windows can't see linux file systems but it can see the partitions fine.. it' just wont tell you about them
[11:33] <Micieri> So I should scan for new hardware -_-
[11:33] <adaptr> only people who haven't used windows in 5 years use fdisk
[11:33] <variant> adaptr: yeah, if thats a windows thing
[11:33] <adaptr> Micieri no, that's not necessary
[11:34] <Micieri> My Computer hasn't found it
[11:34] <variant> adaptr: that explains why i sugested it then :)
[11:34] <adaptr> Micieri of course it won't, it - oh, wait, you don't actually know how *windows* works eitherm I see....
[11:34] <variant> Micieri: please just do as adaptr tells you, don't do any other stuff that you *think* might work. if you knew what to do you wouldn't be here
[11:35] <Micieri> Didn't look hard enough? What the hell have you been smoking
[11:35] <adaptr> bye now
[11:35] <Micieri> you're telling me not to scan for new hardware, but My Computer doesn't see it
[11:35] <variant> Micieri: your attitude is not very good. if you wanted one of your friends to come over and help you fix some floorboards or something would you speak to them like that
[11:35] <variant> ?
[11:35] <variant> Micieri: if you have friends
[11:35] <adaptr> Micieri it never will, no matter how many times you press your monkey-see-new-hardware button
[11:36] <Micieri> if they were saying I don't know what wood looks like, yes
[11:36] <variant> Micieri: i apologies, that was uncalled for
[11:36] <adaptr> in this case, no , you don't
[11:36] <Micieri> so what do I do?
[11:36] <Micieri> I don't know where else to look..
[11:36] <adaptr> open disk manager, reformat disk
[11:37] <solsTiCe> hi. i have configured my dsl connection with pppoeconf. the net goes on when i boot excpet i do not have name resolution because of /etc/resolv.conf that is worng. if i run poff and then pon. it works. so what can i do ? a bug again ?
[11:37] <rbellamy> so... a budy of mine uses tor... and was shunted to ubuntu-proxy
[11:37] <rbellamy> in the heading, it mentions that there's a better way to be anonymous... i'm curious, what is that way?
[11:37] <variant> Micieri: once you got the partition back you might want to try the alternative install cd. maybe you have some unusual hardware that ubuntu is not perfect at dealing with during install yet
[11:38] <Micieri> what alternative?
[11:38] <florian> irc.germany-irc.eu
[11:38] <The_Giver> hi
[11:38] <florian> o0
[11:38] <florian> mist
[11:38] <variant> Micieri: there is an alternative install cd for ubuntu if you have problems with the standard one
[11:39] <Dave_is_sex1> when i run mousepad as me i get an error "segmentation error", but running as root is fine. this happened since a power cut. i've run touch /forcefsck, and reinstalled the ap. what more can i do?
[11:39] <variant> !alternative | Micieri
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <variant> oops
[11:39] <variant> !install | Micieri
[11:39] <ubotu> Micieri: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:39] <The_Giver> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433530 so i dont get the response to my thread
[11:39] <The_Giver> what does he mean "discovered"
[11:39] <adaptr> The_Giver what is the problem ?
[11:40] <inklein> Hello
[11:40] <Micieri> If your computer is not able to run the standard Desktop installation CD, you can use an Alternate installation CD instead. The Alternate CD also allows more advanced installation options which are not available with the Desktop CD
[11:40] <The_Giver> hmm
[11:40] <variant> Micieri: thats the one
[11:40] <Micieri> But it doesn't give me any options to download or request one
[11:40] <The_Giver> i'm trying to enable wireless on my macbook pro running ubuntu 7.0.x
[11:40] <Micieri> oh nvm
[11:40] <inklein> I'm having some issues installing ibuild (http://ibuild.livecd.net/): when I run apt-get install ibuild I get this error:  ibuild: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[11:41] <inklein> any suggestions?
[11:41] <rbellamy> you could use --force
[11:41] <rbellamy> but that's bad bad
[11:41] <inklein> rbellamy: you mean --force-all?
[11:41] <The_Giver> how do i check if my card is being detected
[11:41] <inklein> there is no --force
[11:42] <rbellamy> it's not a god solution
[11:42] <rbellamy> but would install the package
[11:42] <inklein> E: Command line option --force is not understood
[11:42] <rbellamy> have you tried backports yet?
[11:42] <rbellamy> !apt-get
[11:42] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:42] <amitron> Hi, I can't seem to be able to share my printer via smb.
[11:42] <inklein> rbellamy: what are backports?
[11:43] <anthony_> hello
[11:43] <rbellamy> backports are new package releases that have been backported to one of the other deployed solutions...
[11:43] <rbellamy> so in Debian Speak: you can get the newer software for stable
[11:44] <rbellamy> that would otherwise be unavailable unless you were running testing or unstable
[11:44] <anthony_> using Ubuntu 7.04  Feisty Fawn - whats the best way to make windows somewhat transparent?
[11:44] <inklein> rbellamy: where would I find the backports?
[11:44] <rbellamy> !backports
[11:44] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[11:45] <rbellamy> it's specifically for situations like you mentioned
[11:45] <Phylo> is there an ubuntu program that can open .rar archives?
[11:45] <Phylo> I saved all my music that I had in WinXP as .rar archives, burned cd's, now I want that music on linux
[11:45] <amitron> Phylo: I think Ark on Kubuntu can...
[11:45] <rbellamy> where a stable piece of software is no longer compatible with the deployed dependency tree...
[11:45] <Madpilot> Phylo, install the unrar util
[11:46] <Madpilot> ubotu, rar | Phylo
[11:46] <ubotu> Phylo: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:46] <rbellamy> Phylo: you'll need access to the multiverse to get it...
[11:46] <anthony_> Can someone explain to me how I can make open applications somewhat transparent in 7.04 please? Thanks
[11:46] <anthony_> Would Beryl be what I need?
[11:47] <rbellamy> anthony_: have you tried googling transparency in gnome/kde?
[11:47] <anthony_> yes I didn't find a good answer
[11:47] <anthony_> I did look
[11:47] <anthony_> I may have missed it but I looked at over 2 pages of results
[11:47] <amitron> anthony_: I think you would need Beryl. I used to have it and the transperancy made it crash.
[11:47] <anthony_> I'm in Gnome
[11:47] <anthony_> Okay, thanks
[11:47] <anthony_> I'll give it a shot and see how it goes
[11:47] <rbellamy> Beryl is not necessary for transparency
[11:47] <anthony_> I have a triple boot setup
[11:48] <anthony_> rbellamy what can i do instead then
[11:48] <rbellamy> and it's awful heavy, if that's all you're looking for...
[11:48] <anthony_> That's all I am looking for but I would like something light
[11:48] <rbellamy> i don't remember
[11:48] <rbellamy> !
[11:48] <anthony_> ok :) lol
[11:48] <rbellamy> but i know it's possible
[11:48] <rbellamy> and for me to answer, i would have to do the research for you
[11:48] <anthony_> thanks
[11:48] <rbellamy> which means, you're not looking hard enough
[11:49] <rbellamy> ;)
[11:49] <anthony_> I'll keep looking
[11:49] <amitron> How do I share a printer over SMB? I tried to follow some instructions for version 7.04 (which I have) and it did not work.
[11:49] <jussi01> !enter | rbellamy
[11:49] <ubotu> rbellamy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:49] <anthony_> there is compiz too maybe thats it
[11:50] <jussi01> rbellamy: /join #ubuntu-effects
[11:50] <inklein> where is the fiesty backports repo?
[11:50] <Phylo> !info unrar-free
[11:50] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:51] <The_Giver> what do i do if my wireless card is not being detected
[11:51] <Phylo> I tried "sudo apt-get intall unrar" and it told me "package unrar not available but referred to by another package"
[11:52] <Madpilot> Phylo, you need to enable the Universe/Multiverse repositories
[11:52] <solsTiCe> but that big shit ubuntu ful of bug. i have enable session saved. and now i got no WM. no borders on my windows ! wtf !
[11:52] <Madpilot> ubotu, universe | Phylo
[11:52] <ubotu> Phylo: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:52] <Madpilot> solsTiCe, be polite. And coherent.
[11:53] <orbin> The_Giver: do you know what card it is?
[11:54] <PriceChild> hmm what driver should my xorg.conf be using on a i940 card? i currently have i810 which seems wrong :P
[11:54] <amitron> How can I share printers on Feisty Fawn?
[11:54] <Slick_> hey, I've noticed that in feisty my gdesklets minimise when I click 'hide all windows', is there a way to make it so it minimises everything except the gdesklets?
[11:55] <imbecile> hey guys, i am running kde right now because when i try to login to gnome it takes me right back to sign in page.. how can i fix the problem with gnome or at least figure out what the problem is?
[11:55] <adaptr> sticky / on top, however it's called
[11:57] <h4wk0> !codecs
[11:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <uwe> hello, i have a vpn connection that i can get to work with config files, but im unable to get it working using the applet in gnome for network and vpn, so ive been looking at the logs files to see what differs, but i also need to look at how roughly the config file used would look like, where do i find that ?
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> How do you install a new Splash screen under Feisty.. I know i done it under Edgy, just can't remember how.
[12:03] <Micieri> How do you get an alternate cd..
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: download it.
[12:03] <Ix0s> !alternate | Micieri
[12:03] <ubotu> Micieri: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[12:03] <bjoern_> how do i remove a schema of gconf
[12:03] <bjoern_> zapping crashes because of wrong schema
[12:04] <Micieri> Ok thanks D:
[12:04] <snowblind> Hi does someone know the keyboard shortcut in gimp for zooming in and out?
[12:04] <bjoern_> the bug is reported since dapper, but nothing happened yet
[12:04] <Micieri> Where am I meant to download it?
[12:04] <bonaldo2000> Is there a way to set a buffer size or something for ntfs3g? I notice that when I play movies the disk light is blinking rapidly. I shouldnt do this during the entire movie right? Houdn't it read it into the RAM?
[12:04] <Micieri> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[12:05] <Ix0s> michael__, Yeah and tick the box at the bottom
[12:05] <bonaldo2000> CORRECTION: *it* shouldnt do this the entire movie....
[12:05] <Ix0s> Micieri, Yeah and tick the box at the bottom
[12:05] <Micieri> or that works too -_-
[12:05] <Anton99> please help!!! where i can download the OLDER ubuntu release?
[12:05] <Anton99> i want oldest release :)
[12:05] <Micieri> The requested URL /getubuntu/http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[12:06] <Slick_> I've got an icon for a drive on my desktop which is called 'Downloads and Music', but its mounted into a folder called Backup, and I want to rename the drive icon as backup, how do you do this?
[12:06] <delire> snowblind: CTRL- and CTRL+
[12:06] <Ix0s> Micieri, http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[12:06] <bonaldo2000> Slick_:  cant you just rename the icon?
[12:07] <delire> snowblind: oh SHIFT- SHIFT+ (sorry)
[12:07] <Dave_is_sex1>  when i run mousepad as me i get an error "segmentation error", but running as root is fine. this happened since a power cut. i've run touch /forcefsck, and reinstalled the ap. what more can i do?
[12:07] <rafael> Hi
[12:07] <rafael> How can i change the keyboard layout to german_
[12:07] <Anton99> please help!!! where i can download the OLDER ubuntu release?
[12:07] <Anton99> i want oldest ubuntu release in the world :)
[12:07] <Slick_> bonaldo2000, no its not just an icon, it appears as 'Downloads and Music' in the sidebar in nautilus as well
[12:07] <Micieri> Ix0s - Thanks
[12:08] <Ix0s> rafael, system-->prefernces-->keyboard
[12:08] <IndyGunFreak> rafael: i'm gonna go out on a limb, and say system/pref/keyboard
[12:08] <grissom> anton99 -> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[12:08] <rafael> Ix0s: i already made this
[12:08] <bonaldo2000> Slick_: hm ok, then you probably have to change it in fstab I think....
[12:08] <grissom> just choose your version there
[12:08] <papa> hallo
[12:08] <snowblind> rafael: theres also language settings under administration.
[12:08] <Anton99> grissom thnx but there are only 7.04 and 6.06 :(
[12:09] <papa> hallo
[12:09] <Ix0s> rafael, Try doing in X then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:09] <Anton99>  :|
[12:09] <grissom> hum
[12:09] <grissom> that's true...
[12:09] <Slick_> bonaldo2000, I've looked in fstab but I cant see anywhere where it names the icon
[12:09] <rafael> Ix0s: i configured X already with the setting de
[12:09] <Anton99> but i need 4.10 or older
[12:10] <Ix0s> rafael, Ummmmm strange
[12:10] <grissom> i'll try..
[12:10] <Flannel> Anton99: 4.10 is the oldest release.  But, why do you want it?
[12:10] <bonaldo2000> Slick_: Hm, ok....strange that its called that if it doesnt say it it fstab....weird that you just cant reneme it
[12:10] <chief> anyone know of a wireless usb adapter that works out of the box with feisty???
[12:10] <jackal> buongiorno
[12:11] <Anton99> i'm collecting all ubuntu releases iso... i have 5.10, 6.06, 6.10 & 7.04 All versions for all platforms all types))
[12:12] <Flannel> Anton99: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:12] <Anton99> Flannel thnx
[12:12] <Anton99> 404 Not Found
[12:12] <Anton99> nginx/0.4.6 :(
[12:12] <Anton99> what is nginx???
[12:12] <Flannel> Anton99: eh?  I'm looking at it right now.
[12:12] <rafael> No other idea
[12:12] <Anton99> ?
[12:12] <chief> anyone know of a wireless usb adapter that works out of the box with feisty???
[12:12] <Anton99> i cannot enter this page...
[12:13] <rafael> Anton99: http://nginx.net/
[12:13] <Flannel> Anton99: try again, since I'm looking at it currently
[12:13] <grissom> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/
[12:13] <Simulator> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/warty-release-install-i386.iso
[12:13] <grissom> I just entered it..
[12:13] <FocusRite> works for me
[12:13] <snowblind> boom headshot. wtf
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[12:14] <FocusRite> spliiiiiiit
[12:14] <Anton99> source code for http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[12:14] <Flannel> Anton99: please don't paste here.
[12:14] <Anton99> ok
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> Anton99: imon the age now, it works fine
[12:14] <FocusRite> oops sory... spliiit is not part of the html :))
[12:14] <Anton99> ...
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> Anton99: copy/paste the URL
[12:14] <Angel-SL> Split recovered =O
[12:14] <sanityx> Does thunderbird keep each RSS feed seperate
[12:15] <Anton99> IndyGunFreak, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[12:15] <Flannel> Anton99: Yes.  That works.
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> Anton99: yes, it works
[12:16] <FocusRite> sanityx yeah I think so. In windoze it'll actually keep a damn great archive per RSS folder entry in 'My documents' .. been trying how to find out how to prevent that. It does seem to aggregate feeds into the folder-file though, if you have several going into one RSS folder
[12:16] <FocusRite> I assume the other ver's of Tbird would behave in a similar way
[12:16] <sanityx> FocusRite, This aint windoze :-P
[12:16] <dare> hi there ;)
[12:17] <chief> anyone know of a wireless usb adapter that works out of the box with feisty???
[12:17] <FocusRite> but the assumption's fair all the same... a ~/.Thunderbird/RSS/foldwers kind of thing
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> Anton99: why are you collecting old distros?
[12:18] <sgtmattbaker> I got my FTP sever setup!! yes!
[12:18] <dare> i don't know, i'm still using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy :-/
[12:18] <Anton99> IndyGunFreak, it is my hobby :)
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> Anton99: whatever floats your boat.
[12:18] <grissom> dare, why not update?
[12:18] <Slick_> bonaldo2000, I found out how to do it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[12:18] <FocusRite> Anton: let my Paypal you 10 so you can 'get out more' ;o)
[12:18] <dare> ;)
[12:18] <Slick_> brb going to restart to see if its worked
[12:19] <delire> Anton99: i think it's good that someone's collecting old distros.
[12:19] <Anton99> i have all kubuntu, edubuntu 'n' xubuntu distros % all ubunu except 4.10
[12:19] <dare> :)))
[12:19] <FocusRite> don't the Ubuntu maintainers keep archives anyway?
[12:19] <dare> I don't collect them ;)
[12:19] <delire> yes i think they do
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> FocusRite: thats where he was told to download htem, i was just curious why someone would do it.
[12:20] <Flannel> FocusRite: That archive is hosted on ubuntus site
[12:20] <reubs> I lost my dvb card when i upgraded to 7.04. any takers?
[12:20] <grissom> What exactly is edubuntu? I've heard of it, but what are the differences from main distro?
[12:21] <FocusRite> suport perhaps?
[12:21] <Ix0s> grissom, Aimed at schools
[12:21] <Anton99> education appz and other design, lol
[12:21] <Flannel> grissom: it's geared towards the classroom
[12:21] <grissom> I see...
[12:21] <dare> Beryl doesn't work properly on my Edgy :(((
[12:21] <grissom> That's what I imagined...
[12:21] <grissom> what's your video card?
[12:21] <dare> Geforce 6200
[12:21] <Flannel> grissom: it's more of a client/server sort of thing, teacher can call up students screens, etc.  It also has some kid-friendly themes/games (but if you want those for your home desktop, you ought to just instlal Ubuntu then add the themes/games)
[12:21] <n2diy> Ix0s: grissom: Isn't it a thin client?
[12:22] <Anton99> how i can get beryl's .deb package? or other but BINARY!!! i have NVidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB... and 1 GB RAM
[12:22] <Ix0s> dare, Mates got one of them and he had serious problems with beryl
[12:22] <grissom> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428278
[12:22] <reubs> anyoene know about dvb cards?
[12:22] <Ix0s> dare, That could have just been his pc though, aint too sure
[12:22] <Angel-SL> Flannel: WHAT?! Edubuntu has like a controlling thing? Like NetSupport Teach?
[12:22] <dare> nvidia driver installed, Beryl installd
[12:22] <grissom> this worked great for beryl here
[12:23] <Flannel> Angel-SL: er... What's NetSupport Teach?
[12:23] <dare> thx, grissom
[12:23] <Angel-SL> NetSupport School I mean
[12:23] <Angel-SL> http://www.netsupportschool.com/
[12:23] <dare> i will check out some solutions
[12:23] <reubs> :(
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> dare: ask in the beryl chatroom,
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> cant remmeber it now though.
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> !ber
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl
[12:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:24] <grissom> but the idea of a teacher calling up my screen is a little creepy...
[12:25] <dare> good advice IndyGunFreak ;)
[12:25] <dare> it doesn't very important application for me :P
[12:25] <Flannel> Angel-SL: hmm.  Now that I look... no, I don't believe so.  I always thought it did.
[12:25] <Ix0s> dare, #beryl
[12:25] <dare> thx :)
[12:25] <Angel-SL> Flannel: so It doesn't?
[12:25] <Angel-SL> -capI
[12:25] <Ix0s> dare, If not then crdlb in #ubuntu-effects , he knows alot
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> dare: i see... i like beryl, but it wore off quickly and i don't start it much anymore.
[12:26] <dare> so as I ;)
[12:27] <Anton99> !ubuntu
[12:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:27] <dare> Does anyone use the newest Cedega ? :)
[12:27] <Anton99> !debian
[12:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[12:27] <Anton99> !slackware
[12:27] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[12:27] <Ix0s> !Linux
[12:27] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:27] <Anton99> !KDE
[12:27] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:28] <Anton99> !gnome
[12:28] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:28] <Anton99> !xfce
[12:28] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:28] <Ix0s> !botabuse | Anton99
[12:28] <ubotu> Anton99: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:29] <dare> thx all of advices
[12:29] <dare> Bye everyone !
[12:30] <grissom> @brazil
[12:30] <grissom> #brazil
[12:30] <chief> anyone know of a wireless usb adapter that works out of the box with feisty???
[12:30] <chief> anyone know of a wireless usb adapter that works out of the box with feisty???
[12:31] <bullgard4> Is there a description/an account how Gnome Power Manager implements the ACPI standard?
[12:31] <llama32andathird> i'm getting serious slowdowns usually about 5 minutes after login - might be in the X server because it seems to be the first thing to go (ie, music keeps playing ok for a bit but all windows are unresponsive)... it happens in both gnome and KDE, and i can't narrow it down to one specific app... eventually everything is totally unresponsive and ever ctrl+alt+bksp X shutdown doesn't work... any ideas what could be causing this? i've be
[12:31] <llama32andathird> windows for the last few days because of it...
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> has anyone switched to Pidgin yet/
[12:31] <Stormx2> Hey all. If I wanted to copy everything in one partition (my /) into another, preserving permissions, what command would be sufficient
[12:32] <FocusRite> cp -a / /my_destination I think
[12:32] <FocusRite> cp -a is what I use for copying directories around at least
[12:32] <foo> [17236972.808000]  lockd: cannot monitor 192.168.0.2
[12:32] <foo> [17236972.808000]  lockd: failed to monitor 192.168.0.2
[12:32] <foo> Any ideas on that? Weird
[12:33] <FocusRite> mind you copying everything from root to somewhere else isn't a great idea as things like /dev/randdom and /dev/dsp will prevent it ever completing possibly
[12:33] <llama32andathird> or does anyone have a suggestion as to how to log the equivalent of the top command, so after reboot i can see what apps are eating up all the ram & cpu? although it must be a high priority process using all the CPU or something - becuase everything becomes completely unresponsive [not just through X - music stops playing too] 
[12:34] <Mirage> Hi
[12:34] <Mirage> I seem to be getting a few network problems on my Ubuntu 7.04 box
[12:34] <Stormx2> after copying my ubuntu partitions onto another disk and restoring grub, are there any changes I need to make in order to get ubuntu to boot?
[12:34] <FocusRite> llama try doing 'script' then running top in the script shell then quitting top and ctrl-D from the script sheel and check the 'typescript' output file for everything that happened in the script session
[12:35] <llama32andathird> Mirage: if it's in KDE, stop the network manager or whatever thing... it seems to bugger up internet stuff
[12:35] <Mirage> I lose thenetworkconnection entirely,andit seems it won't be fixed unless i restart
[12:35] <llama32andathird> FocusRite: thanks, i'll try that
[12:35] <Mirage> the windows laptop that i've got connected to the same switch doesn'tget any disconnections
[12:35] <n2diy> llama32andathird: Take a look at the man page for nice, that might help you.
[12:35] <Mirage> i'musing Gnome
[12:35] <Mirage> it startedtwodays ago or so
[12:35] <Mirage> and my space bar seems to be broken :p
[12:35] <Bradford> Is there a channel for PPC ubuntu??? Would there need to be?
[12:36] <FocusRite> llama you can try top > /tmp/somefile but the contents of the output file look really messy
[12:36] <mrmonday> what should I do if the 'every 30 boots' fsck fails?
[12:36] <grissom> Oh, is there any way for me to manage boot between two HDs?
[12:36] <Sandeepc> can anyone helpp me with installing nvidia drivers on kubuntu, dint seem to get help in its channel
[12:36] <tdoggette> I just installed an app from a .deb file, and I'm not sure where exactly it is. That is, how I can access it.
[12:36] <ubuntuEdgy> grissom: grub
[12:37] <Bradford> Does anyone know about partitioning a PPC hdd w/ OSX to put Ubuntu on ?
[12:37] <Mirage> After I get disconnected, it just seems to keep trying to get an addressfrom dhcp
[12:37] <Mirage> but never succeeds
[12:37] <Ix0s> !gparted | Bradford
[12:37] <ubotu> Bradford: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:37] <Mirage> I've got link though, so i doubt it is the network cable
[12:37] <ubuntuEdgy> tdoggette:  open terminal type locate ......
[12:37] <Mirage> in fact, my windows laptop has an ever poorer networkcable
[12:37] <grissom> hum... But, you see, one of them is Sata and the other one is IDE, is that possible anyways?
[12:37] <n2diy> tdoggette: Have you tried typing the program name in a terminal?
[12:38] <Arvid> how do I install an older version of ruby? (1.8.4) ?
[12:38] <Bradford> Ix0s, I forgot I already figured it out... Hard A makes me forget. Bye!
[12:38] <ubuntuEdgy> tdoggette:  <places> search for file
[12:38] <bma_> hi anyone able to help with the brightness controls on a dell laptop, they work outside of ubuntu but not once ubuntu has started booting :s
[12:38] <llama32andathird> tdoggette: use synaptic/another package manager, and find the package you installed, and click the files tab/context menu thing/whatever - it can show you which files the package installed
[12:38] <Mirage> llama32andathird: That network manager you're talking about, is that the same one that's running in Gnome?
[12:39] <Mirage> NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4
[12:39] <llama32andathird> Mirage: nah, i think your problem is something completely different
[12:39] <Mirage> ok
[12:40] <Mirage> well, I'll log on here with my laptop the next time it happens
[12:40] <Mirage> might be easier to check what's wrong when there's actually something wrong
[12:40] <Mirage> I really don't want to resort to restarting each time
[12:41] <Flannel> Angel-SL: Not controlling, from what I can tell, but you can view them.
[12:41] <Mirage> I tried disabling the network driver and enabling it again, using ifconfig
[12:41] <bma_> hi anyone able to help with the brightness controls on a dell laptop, they work outside of ubuntu but not once ubuntu has started booting :s
[12:41] <Mirage> but i either didn't do it right, or it had no effect
[12:41] <HotAsianGirl> hello world!
[12:41] <bma_> hi anyone able to help with the brightness controls on a dell laptop, they work outside of ubuntu but not once ubuntu has started booting :s
[12:41] <Flannel> Angel-SL: Of course, the controlling might already be doable with LTSP, I don't know
[12:42] <FocusRite> ello
[12:42] <arrow_> ay
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> whast causing a 100 or so users to randomly quit/
[12:42] <predaeus> !repeat > bma_
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> i thought those were usually nick collisions, but it doesn't say that
[12:42] <Flannel> !netsplit
[12:42] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:42] <fiery_cleric> bma_: what do u mean outside of buntu?
[12:43] <Mirage> fiery_cleric:while the machine is still booting,i'mguessing
[12:43] <wanderingII>  anyone know any good articles discussing software licensing, some of the licenses and the benefits of them?
[12:44] <arrow_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a 1 gig USB flash drive.  At https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick it says to put (syslinux -s /dev/sda1) into the command line, but when I do this (syslinux -s /dev/sda1) comes back
[12:44] <photographin> jemand deutsch`?
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> what software
[12:44] <predaeus> wanderingII, did you try wikipedia?
[12:44] <arrow_> 
[12:44] <kevkev832> test
[12:44] <n2diy> ! de | photographin
[12:44] <ubotu> photographin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:44] <Chris_XY> photographin, versuchs mal in emule-de
[12:44] <wanderingII> yea
[12:44] <Chris_XY> photographin, versuchs mal in ubuntu-de
[12:44] <Chris_XY> ^^
[12:44] <wanderingII> was looking something a bit more in depth
[12:45] <HotAsianGirl> is there an ubuntu support  channel i can't get my VLC player to play FLV file with video. tq.
[12:45] <mandy__> hey guys ... i got a problem , my ubuntu works perfectly under recovery mode (i can use beryl with my ati) but while im on normal mode it freezes all the time because of aiglx and gnome dont start untill i kill esd , anyone ?
[12:45] <kevkev832> That's cause ur not plugin the right plugin HotAsian
[12:45] <FocusRite> should VLC play flash video at all ?
[12:45] <Phylo> how can I listen to .mp3's?
[12:46] <delire> HotAsianGirl: hey Kevin. does it play in Mplayer?
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> !mp3
[12:46] <Laney> np: Arcade Fire - Crown Of Love
[12:46] <arrow_> HotAsianGirl, this is the channel, I've never tried to play a FLV file though
[12:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <Biohazard> hi
[12:46] <delire> HotAsianGirl: try #videolan if it exists.
[12:46] <xordred> hi biohazard
[12:46] <sanityx> anybody here use google reader for rss?
[12:46] <model-search> Chris_XY und was soll das ubuntu gequatsche?
[12:46] <HotAsianGirl> okay tq. /join #videolan
[12:46] <delire> Phylo: in 7.04 just double click on the mp3 and it will install the codec for you.
[12:47] <FocusRite> yeah it does list FLV as an input format
[12:47] <Biohazard> hi xordred
[12:47] <robinlinth> What's the best MMORPG for Ubuntu that you guys can think of? One where you can get your char stronger but it doesn't get boring and has a friendly community (in #ubuntu-offtopic they're not really serious)
[12:47] <Phylo> delire, thanks but I'm on 6.10 I think
[12:47] <arrow_> is the mount point of my usb flash drive the same as the directory?
[12:47] <Sebastian> hie everybody, my samsung x30 notebook can wake up after suspend or hibernate. anybody has a clue what to do about it?
[12:48] <delire> Phylo: right, then use the above link from ubotu
[12:48] <Phylo> delire:  yeah, I am thanks
[12:48] <fiery_cleric> arrow_: a mount point is a directory that has a file system in side it
[12:49] <delire> Sebastian: unfortunately the Samsung folk don't let Linux developers know about how their ACPI stuff works at a bios level so it's a bit tricky. try to make sure that the package acpi-support is installed.
[12:49] <arrow_> fiery_cleric: would this be an example of a mount point? /media/disk-2
[12:49] <Sebastian> delire: thx, il check that
[12:49] <delire> Sebastian: that's perhaps your best bet. alternatively, search for your model here: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[12:50] <fiery_cleric> arrow_: probably .... the directories created in /media are usually mount points ... check system->admin->system monitor->devices ... it has a list of drives and their mountpoints
[12:50] <Anton99> why gaim is renamed?
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> Anton99: they got sued by AOL..
[12:52] <gunny01> !virtualbox
[12:52] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[12:52] <arrow_> fiery_cleric, when I put the command /media/disk-2, I get /media/disk-2
[12:52] <mandy__> How come some modules works perfectly under recovery mode while it freezes when it runs on normal mode ?
[12:52] <FocusRite> YAY the feisty upgrade had made my sata drives appear :oP
[12:53] <fiery_cleric> arrow_: what do you mean?
[12:54] <flankk> I'm following instructions on installing Ubuntu from a seperate partition.  I can boot the installer from the partition fine, but during installation it searches for a cd.  It doesn't find it since it's booting off of the hdd; there's no option to skip it.  Is there something I can manually mount or am I doing something wrong?  Thanks in advance.
[12:54] <Anton99> !ubotu
[12:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:54] <Anton99> !ubotu
[12:55] <delire> Anton99: because AOL sued them. first AOL made them change their name from  "GTK+ AOL Instant Messenger" to GAIM. later AOL trademaked 'AIM' and then sued GAIM for breach of trademark.
[12:55] <arrow> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a flash drive and I have to make it bootable so I'm using syslinux, the guide says to put the command (syslinux -s /dev/sda1) in to make it bootable,
[12:55] <delire> Anton99: something like that.. ;)
[12:55] <arrow> fiery_cleric ^^^
[12:55] <FocusRite> with luck AOL will go bust soon
[12:55] <Phylo> what does ogg stand for
[12:55] <Anton99> AOL su*ks !!!
[12:56] <Sebastian> Phylo: ogg is Ogg-Vorbis - a media container format
[12:56] <Anton99> AOL = America OnLine???
[12:56] <FocusRite> yup
[12:56] <fiery_cleric> arrow: ok , cool whats the problem/
[12:56] <heidiklum> we search model pleas klick here--->  #model
[12:56] <heidiklum> we search model pleas klick here--->  #model
[12:56] <jamosup> '-'
[12:56] <Phylo> I'm wondering where "ogg" and "vorbis" come from
[12:56] <heidiklum> we search model pleas klick here--->  #model
[12:56] <Anton99> !ban
[12:56] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:56] <Anton99> !kick
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <predaeus> Phylo, Sebastian, either that or ogg-theora,    ogg is the container, vorbis is an audio codec and theora for video as far as I know
[12:56] <Anton99> !oggvorbis
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oggvorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Anton99> !vorbis
[12:56] <heidiklum> kick youre ass
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <heidiklum> lol
[12:57] <Anton99> !ogg
[12:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:57] <heidiklum> hahahaha
[12:57] <tdn> How do I install 7.04 with encrypted root file system using LUKS? I have not been able to find any HOWTOs on this for 7.04. Only for Edgy, but I've heard that it should be supported by the installer in Feisty. I have tried booting up on the alternate cd. But I cannot find anything about encrypted file systems in the partitioner. Any help will be appreciated. :)
[12:57] <predaeus> !ops | spamming and language > heidiklum
[12:57] <Anton99> !fips
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <predaeus> !ops
[12:57] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[12:57] <arrow> fiery_cleric: when I do this it says (/media/disk-2: Is a directory). Is it making it bootable?
[12:57] <flankk> anyone..?
[12:58] <fiery_cleric> arrow: what ubuntu version are you using now?
[12:58] <jrib> heidiklum: this channel is only for ubuntu support, please don't spam again.  Thanks
[12:58] <arrow> fiery_cleric:fiesty
[12:58] <Sebastian> predaeus: youre right of course!
[12:58] <shriphani> can someone help me. the fonts in firefox are blurred
[12:59] <fiery_cleric> arrow: so you are making a usb drive installer to install ubuntu somewhere else?
[12:59] <arrow> yes, on my other computer
[12:59] <jrib> predaeus: thanks
[12:59] <fiery_cleric> shriphani: are you using an lcd monitor?
[12:59] <arrow> fiery_cleric: yes, on my other computer
[12:59] <flankk> How is it there's over 1000 people here and noone willing to help me? :(
[01:00] <FurryNemesis> ack! Netsplit?
[01:00] <shriphani> fiery_cleric, its a lappy
[01:00] <enjoi> jooo netsplits
[01:00] <hylje> flankk: your question is either too vague or poorly worded
[01:00] <Spee_Der> Looked like a split....
[01:00] <enjoi> why is ubuntu chan actually on freenode
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> thats happened several times this morning for some reason
[01:00] <jrib> flankk: or no one knows the answer
[01:00] <enjoi> not on efnet linknet etc
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> enjoi: whynot?
[01:00] <sercik> what????
[01:00] <fiery_cleric> shriphani: check that system->preference->fonts is set to sub-pixel rendering
[01:00] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> enjoi: whats wrong with Freenode?
[01:01] <fiery_cleric> arrow: ok
[01:01] <flankk> hylje: the latter, since if you even read my question, it was very descript.
[01:01] <enjoi> dont have good experience with it
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> well, it works fine
[01:01] <sercik> hi some could help me to fix a refresh problem?
[01:01] <sercik> someone
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> how do you have a bad experience with a server?
[01:01] <shriphani> fiery_cleric, the rest of the os is fine
[01:01] <shriphani> just firefox.... maybe i should restart firefox....
[01:02] <shriphani> ahh better now
[01:02] <sercik> i can't choose a good refresh
[01:02] <sercik> ai have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <Blair_S> sup
[01:02] <arrow> sercik don't ask to ask a question, just ask the question
[01:02] <r3velati0n> ha
[01:02] <Blair_S> o helo
[01:03] <flankk> hylje: What's the use of a support channel if nobody knows how to install Ubuntu using one of the supported methods?  Read the documentation on installation, then talk to me about poorly worded.  It skips steps like sudo, etc.  Doesn't even tell you to do a "grub-install" before rebooting.
[01:03] <Qenpo> Is there an Ubuntu LiveDVD I can download via Bittorrent?
[01:03] <sercik> arrow help me to choose a high refresh rate
[01:03] <hylje> flankk: me, i installed ubuntu by just clicking buttons on the installer
[01:03] <fiery_cleric> arrow: probably the syslinux command doesnt want the mount point of the usb drive but the device file eg /dev/sdc , but make sure you know what device file is for the usb disk before running the command
[01:03] <arrow> sercik: sorry, I've never done that before
[01:04] <flankk> hylje: I don't have a cdrom on this server.  I need to install from a partition.  Anyone can install from the cd.  Don't mock me.
[01:04] <arrow> fiery_cleric: How do I find out the device file?
[01:04] <hylje> flankk: i didnt know you are using an exotic way to install. don't misunderstand.
[01:04] <ubuntuforme> test
[01:04] <sercik> noone sould help me for a refresh problem?
[01:05] <Dimitry> ciao
[01:05] <fiery_cleric> arrow: can you access files on the disk at the moment (ie is it mounted)?
[01:05] <flankk> hylje: that was part of my "poorly worded" question.
[01:05] <arrow> fiery_cleric: yes
[01:05] <flankk> hylje: ala. unread question.
[01:05] <predaeus> sercik, try rephrasing your question to be more specific
[01:05] <fiery_cleric> arrow: and the files are in /media/disk-2 ?
[01:06] <arrow> fiery_cleric: yes
[01:06] <hylje> flankk: to be specific, i did not catch your question as im just randomly looking here
[01:06] <hylje> flankk: nor do i know the answers to what appears to be your problem
[01:06] <xjkx> install apache+php, apt-get what
[01:06] <Qenpo> Anyone?
[01:07] <sercik> i have a low refresh rate also if i have inserted the correct paramenter in monitor section of xorg.conf
[01:07] <fiery_cleric> arrow: ok check system->admin->system monitor->devices ... and look for the device column in the row with the /media/disk-2 in the directory column .... that will be the device for the usb drive
[01:07] <predaeus> Qenpo, can't see one here http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/  probably there is a fansite somewhere or check the forums if somebody is feeding a dvd torrent
[01:08] <Spee_Der> sercik, do you have the specs for your monitor ?
[01:08] <sercik> yes i have
[01:08] <sercik> and i have inserted already in xorg.conf
[01:08] <SubMOA> How do you mount an .iso so the computer "thinks" it's an actual cd or dvd?
[01:08] <Guest11549> hi why
[01:08] <predaeus> *seeding
[01:08] <Spee_Der> sercik, ok. I went through that also. Had to edit the xorg.conf quite a few times in order for both monitors to seat properly.
[01:09] <fiery_cleric> SubMOA: whats the purpose?
[01:09] <arrow> fiery_cleric, I see thankyou for your time
[01:09] <sercik> i have only one monitor
[01:09] <Spee_Der> sercik, and did you re-start the gdm ?
[01:09] <flankk> SubMOA: "sudo mount /path/to/iso -o loop /some/mount/point"
[01:09] <sercik> yes
[01:09] <Qenpo> Will the 64-bit Ubuntu work on a Core 2 Duo?
[01:09] <Spee_Der> sercik, what's it not doing ?
[01:09] <Qenpo> It says 64-bit, and the C2D is 64-bit, but then it says AMD64.
[01:09] <sercik> i use startx however
[01:09] <SubMOA> flankk, ok, thanks.
[01:09] <fiery_cleric> arrow: good luck with the install ...
[01:10] <Spee_Der> sercik, the easy way to re-start gdm, three finger salute-------   ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:10] <Guest11549> Hi, I installed telnetd via apt-get but I can't start it 'couse I don't find the telnetd command... ?
[01:10] <Guest11549> where is it afeter istallation?
[01:10] <sercik> I know this i know how to restart server
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Qenpo: why would you use the 64bit?... simple web plugins don't work, or you have to jump through hoops to make 32bit apps work on 64bit OS's.
[01:10] <fiery_cleric> !info telnet
[01:10] <ubotu> telnet: The telnet client. In component main, is standard. Version 0.17-35ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 64 kB, installed size 184 kB
[01:10] <Spee_Der> sercik, ok
[01:10] <sercik> now i need some hack to tell to X a correct refresh rate i think
[01:10] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: you need the telnet package to get the client
[01:10] <Qenpo> IndyGunFreak: Really? I thought 64-bit versions were just nicer, I didn't know that at all.
[01:11] <SubMOA> flankk, what would be a typical "/some/mount/point"
[01:11] <Spee_Der> sercik, which OS and computer you using please ?
[01:11] <fwp> how do I boot with no vga ?
[01:11] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: do you want to run a telnet server?
[01:11] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric: I want to start the serve not the client...
[01:11] <hylje> SubMOA: /media/iso
[01:11] <fwp> I added vga=no to the grub line
[01:11] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric ues
[01:11] <mcn06> Hello, can anyone recommend a good linux alternative to something like Norton Ghost?
[01:11] <fwp> but it didn't seem to work
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Qenpo: no... things like Flash, etc, requires significant hoop jumping in 64bit... if you're new to linux, stick with 32bit versions right now.
[01:11] <sercik> now i'm using xp because i'm working with autocad
[01:11] <flankk> SubMOA: Wherever you want if it's temporary.  Just make a folder.
[01:11] <Qenpo> Ah, okay. Thanks.
[01:11] <sercik> but in linux i use ubuntu dapper
[01:11] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: ok ... AFAIK on ubuntu it runs as a inetd super server service
[01:12] <icecruncher> help, pidgin gives me an error when trying to connect, saying that it cant find ssl support
[01:12] <SubMOA> oh, ok.  So it could be "/home/home folder/temp_disc/"
[01:12] <Phylo> thanks people
[01:12] <Spee_Der> sercik, dapper, way cool. What computer please ?
[01:12] <flankk> SubMOA: You got it.
[01:12] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: cant you telnet localhost ?
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> ssl support?
[01:12] <icecruncher> yeah
[01:12] <SubMOA> flankk, thanks a million, you, too hylje
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> icecruncher: did gaim work OK?
[01:12] <icecruncher> never used gaim
[01:12] <sercik> athlon64 3500+ with 1 Gb dual channel ram @ msi kn8 neo 4
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> oh
[01:12] <sercik> dapper 32bit edition
[01:13] <icecruncher> IndyGunFreak: I compiled pidgin, and installed it, no errors
[01:13] <Spee_Der> sercik, on board video ?
[01:13] <sercik> videoboard is 7600GT
[01:13] <sercik> non board excuse me is a pci express
[01:13] <Spee_Der> sercik, I don't know the 7600GT.
[01:13] <sercik> nvidia 7600 GT
[01:13] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric: No... I can't telnet to my localhost .. No telnet server is started...
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> icecruncher: i have no idea, i downloaded the .deb file from gnome-look.org
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> and it works fine
[01:14] <Spee_Der> sercik, can you paste your xorg.conf for me someplace so I cab review it ?
[01:14] <sercik> sure
[01:14] <mattwob> Hello! All my windows open in the top-left of the screen, under the main panel, so I keep having to move them... Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:14] <SubMOA> flankk, now what?
[01:15] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: do you have a /etc/inetd.conf ? .... is there a in.telnetd in it?
[01:15] <SubMOA> flankk, it doesn't seem to be playing it
[01:15] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric: can I found something about telnetd installation on AFAIK ?
[01:15] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: AFAIK is irc speak for As Far As I know ... it means ppl cant flame you if you make a mistake
[01:15] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric now I looking it in etc, wait me
[01:16] <sercik> Spee_Der i will rebbot in linux please wait me
[01:16] <Spee_Der> sercik, ok. no problem. I am here for a few hours this morning.
[01:16] <flankk> SubMOA: it doesn't automatically do anything.  Open the dir it's mounted under and do your worst.
[01:17] <SubMOA> it's open
[01:17] <SubMOA> but it is just a few folders
[01:17] <fiery_cleric> mattwob: use the taskbar to right click on the button for the window and choose maximize
[01:17] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric !! wow I found this in my inetd.conf: #<off># telnet          stream  tcp     nowait  telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[01:17] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric :
[01:17] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric :)
[01:17] <dinochopins> anyone ever installed PLESK here ?
[01:17] <flankk> SubMOA: Well, that's what's on the iso.
[01:17] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: right ubuntu probably thinks its too insecure to turn on by default even if you have installed the package
[01:18] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric if now I comment out this ,then what's happen?
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> icecruncher: look here...   http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=57356
[01:18] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric and my ubunto think right :)
[01:18] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[01:18] <SubMOA> hmm... I thought, though, that it would be like putting a dvd in... as in, it would be one big file, not a collection of several
[01:18] <mtholdenss> hey is it possible to export email from evolution to be imported into outlook express on xp? i cant get network printer working, and they want xp back.. so yea, and email is an issue
[01:18] <flankk> SubMOA:
[01:18] <mattwob> fiery_cleric: Thanks, but they used to always open in under the panel...
[01:18] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric but I want telnetd active only for my LAN
[01:19] <SubMOA> flankk, yes...
[01:19] <flankk> SubMOA: Everything on your computer is a file.  Everything you put on a DVD is a file.  Everything you put in a zip file or an iso is a file.  It's just that simple.
[01:19] <stefg> !backup | mcn06
[01:19] <ubotu> mcn06: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:19] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: yeah thats ok if the physical network is secure ... remember plain password going over the net
[01:20] <SubMOA> flankk, hmm... ok, I guess i see that... but... hmm... I'm not sure even how to ask this question, sorry.
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> man, thats like the 5th one in only a couple hours.
[01:20] <SubMOA> flankk, I suppose... I invisionedd a single file that would run just like a DVD
[01:20] <FurryNemesis> oh not again
[01:20] <SubMOA> flankk, like if you put in a DVD, then double click on the DVD icon that appears, it plays
[01:21] <fiery_cleric> mattwob: ok ... after its maximized , unimimize it and close the application, hopefully it will open in the same way next time, window management under linux desktop is pretty bad
[01:22] <stefg> !away | mr_dd-essen
[01:22] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric: Hey I haven't inetd in my /etc/init.d/ !!!
[01:22] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric why??
[01:22] <ubotu> mr_dd-essen: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam
[01:22] <mattwob> Ahh, I see, thanks for the advice :-)
[01:22] <KDan> hi all. I'm trying to start mysqld on my machine. This used to work fine. Now it tells me: "Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address \\ Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?"
[01:22] <KDan> netstat -t doesn't show anything running on 3306
[01:23] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: ummmm ... are you using feisty?
[01:23] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric ok is in /usr/sbin
[01:23] <Guest11549> yes
[01:23] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric is the same?
[01:23] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: is inetd running ?
[01:23] <tdn> How do I install 7.04 with encrypted root file system using LUKS? I have not been able to find any HOWTOs on this for 7.04. Only for Edgy, but I've heard that it should be supported by the installer in Feisty. I have tried booting up on the alternate cd. But I cannot find anything about encrypted file systems in the partitioner. Any help will be appreciated. :)
[01:23] <KDan> Anyone have any thoughts as to what could be blocking port 3306?
[01:23] <KDan> (without showing up?)
[01:23] <Qenpo> The regular Feisty Fawn desktop CD also functions as a LiveCD, right?
[01:24] <jarrett> is there a way to add LAMP to a desktop install?
[01:24] <bimberi_> Qenpo: the desktop cd, yes
[01:24] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric no...
[01:24] <bimberi_> !lamp | jarrett
[01:24] <KDan> jarrett: use Synaptic Package manager and select apache, mysql, php..
[01:24] <ubotu> jarrett: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:24] <aidan> jarrett: sudo aptitude install apache2 php mysql
[01:24] <tdn> !sbackup
[01:24] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[01:24] <fiery_cleric> !info inetd
[01:24] <ubotu> Package inetd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:24] <tdn> !cloning
[01:24] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[01:25] <flankk> SubMOA: I'm guessing you're trying to play a ripped DVD movie.  In which case if you had ripped it yourself you could just play off the DVD.  So clearly you downloaded it.  Two options here:  Use an mpg decoder to play the raw files or next time download a movie file instead of a disk image meant to be burned.
[01:25] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: you may not have inetd installed ... i dont know what package it is in ... check if you want on pacakges.ubuntu.com
[01:25] <fiery_cleric> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:25] <aidan> how do I repair a movie with ffmpeg? It's apparently corrupted, but it plays fine
[01:25] <fiery_cleric> !search inetd
[01:25] <ubotu> Found:
[01:26] <jarrett> KDan, aidan: thanks
[01:26] <fiery_cleric> !find inetd
[01:26] <bimberi_> !find inetd
[01:26] <ubotu> Found: openbsd-inetd, update-inetd, xinetd, inetutils-inetd, libconfig-inetd-perl (and 5 others)
[01:26] <SubMOA> flankk, as a matter of fact, no, I didn't not download it... it is an original audio DVD, that I borrowed.  I could burn the .iso to disc, but I would rather just have it play from my computer.  I know you probably don't believe how I got it or what it is, so if you don't want to help, I more than understand.
[01:26] <stefg> tdn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem, go alonf
[01:26] <SubMOA> flankk, and thank you for your help thus far, truly appreciated.
[01:27] <flankk> SubMOA: audio DVD?  Is it a CD?
[01:27] <stefg> tdn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem, go along the edgy lines... meanining using UUID instead of /dev/
[01:27] <KDan> hi all. I'm trying to start mysqld on my machine. This used to work fine. Now it tells me: "Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address \\ Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?"... netstat -t shows nothing on that port. Any thoughts?
[01:27] <julian> Can anyone advise on (wired) network cards for use with Feisty Xubuntu? I'm trying to set up an old P75 as a mail server but my current D-Link card isn't recognised during installation.
[01:27] <SubMOA> flankk, no... well... no, it's a DVD, but it's only audio
[01:27] <dinochopins> hi all
[01:27] <dinochopins> anyone ever install PLESK 8.1 here ?
[01:27] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[01:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:28] <tdn> stefg, In Edgy this was done by creating an extra partition for the base system. After installing the base system to the extra small partition. Another large partition was set up with dm-crypt. Then all the files from the extra partition was copied to the new large encypted partition. GRUB entries was set to point to the new partition and then the new partition was used as rootfs. However, this process is tedious and you loose some of your disk capacity by ha
[01:28] <flankk> SubMOA: then open up vlc and play the directory...
[01:28] <fiery_cleric> julian: is it isa / pci ?
[01:28] <sercik> Spee_Der: I'm here again i don't know exactly how but i have used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now my monitor have a higher refresh rate
[01:28] <SubMOA> flankk, I'll give it a go
[01:28] <tdn> stefg, is there *no* way to do this from the installer or without having to create the extra partition?
[01:28] <Spee_Der> sercik, well, that's great. You did well with the re-start then. Nice going.
[01:28] <julian> fiery_cleric It's pci, but also quite old (not even sure if it works!)
[01:29] <stefg> tdn, none that i know of, see !install and check if you can hunt down an advanced method there
[01:29] <sercik> Spee_Der: but in kde configuration i can'see the good refresh rate
[01:29] <tdn> !install
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:29] <SubMOA> it can't read it, flankk... ohh well...
[01:29] <sercik> now seems that refresh rate is fixed to 85 hertz..
[01:30] <flankk> SubMOA: it helps to know what you're trying to play.
[01:30] <SubMOA> flankk, what do you mean?
[01:31] <sercik> |paste
[01:31] <sercik> !paste
[01:31] <sercik> !paste-bin
[01:31] <sercik> ! paste-bin
[01:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste-bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <Spee_Der> sercik, in system>preferences>screen resolution, can you change there the default setting ?
[01:31] <SubMOA> flankk, my doctor (well, dentist) made this DVD (so it would play all day, without having to change it) with a bunch of indie groups so he let me borrow it.
[01:31] <_filippo_> does some one have a good feed aggregator for gnome to suggest?
[01:32] <TigerCR1200> I am looking for software to connect to a Shoutcast server and be able to play music and talk. Does anyone know of such software?
[01:32] <fiery_cleric> _filippo_: i like blam
[01:32] <flankk> SubMOA: look at the music files.  Are they .mp3, .ogg, .flac.  Once you know, ask synaptic to get it for you.. then play them.
[01:32] <stefg> !player | TigerCR1200
[01:32] <ubotu> TigerCR1200: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:32] <SubMOA> flankk, well, it's an .iso image
[01:32] <_filippo_> fiery_cleric: i'm aware of it but didn't try it because i don't like mono things
[01:32] <moox> hi there. I'm trying to install kubuntu from by ubuntu feisty box and I got errors 'digikam, kamera' not found (depencies). and idea ?
[01:32] <fiery_cleric> _filippo_: why?
[01:33] <TigerCR1200> stefg: I am not looking for a player. I want to broadcast on the shoutcast server.
[01:33] <SubMOA> flankk, I don't think it was burned as data
[01:33] <sercik> the problem is exactly this in screen resolution there aren't correct refresh rates
[01:33] <HymnToLife> mooky, what _exactly_ are you trying to do ? (aka "more details, please")
[01:33] <HymnToLife> moox*
[01:33] <SubMOA> flankk, I think he used Roxio or something.... it has a picture as a "video" that displays while the music is playing
[01:33] <flankk> SubMOA: an iso is the same as a zip file.  You already opened it.
[01:33] <stefg> TigerCR1200: oh, i see ... #ubuntu-studio?
[01:33] <SubMOA> flankk, ohh, ok, one sec, please
[01:33] <Spee_Der> sercik, which monitor please ?
[01:34] <TigerCR1200> thanks stefg Ill try there when it seems like someone is awake
[01:34] <_filippo_> fiery_cleric: for moral reasons since novell-ms accord and because it's too java-like
[01:34] <flankk> SubMOA: an iso isn't a giant mp3 file, if that's what you're thinking.
[01:34] <moox> HymnToLife: apt-get install kde-desktop =>packets 'kamera, digikam and kipi.plugins' defects
[01:34] <SubMOA> .bup, .vob and  .ifo
[01:34] <SubMOA> flankk, nope, believe it or not, I actually  knew that :O)
[01:34] <HymnToLife> moox, should be kde or kubunu-desktop
[01:34] <HymnToLife> not kde-desktop
[01:34] <allan_> hello there. my friend is having a sound problem on his computer, with an nforce2 audio chipset. he has an ASUS a7n8x-e deluxe motherboard, and when I installed feisty on his machine the sound hasn't worked. All the audio levels are normal, and lspci -v lists his audio devices correctly, so im not sure whats wrong
[01:35] <SubMOA> flankk, in fact, that's what I was trying to tell you, in a way... I didn't know how to find out what file it was because it was an iso, but think I figured it out.
[01:35] <moox> HymnToLife: yes, sorry, I tried with kububtu-desktop to get those errors
[01:35] <sercik> samsung 997MB
[01:35] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:35] <fiery_cleric> _filippo_: yeah ... , i started using it before that whole novel-ms stuff ... so that makes it ok :) ...
[01:35] <easytiger> !compiz
[01:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:35] <HymnToLife> moox, which Ubuntu ?
[01:35] <stefg> TigerCR1200: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1804752
[01:35] <moox> HymnToLife:  feisty
[01:35] <HymnToLife> !fin kamera feisty
[01:35] <HymnToLife> !find kamera feisty
[01:35] <ubotu> Found: kamera
[01:36] <HymnToLife> !info kamera feisty
[01:36] <ubotu> kamera: digital camera io_slave for Konqueror. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 91 kB, installed size 376 kB
[01:36] <_filippo_> fiery_cleric: someone suggested me yarssr. I'm looking at the website right now
[01:36] <julian> fiery_cleric: It's pci, but also quite old (not even sure if it works!)
[01:36] <flankk> SubMOA: Sounds like the guy ripped multiple CDs and threw them all onto one DVD.
[01:36] <HymnToLife> moox, it in in main so it should definitely be there... could you pastebin your sources.list ?
[01:36] <TigerCR1200> thanks stefg, I swear I have searched the forum... Ill read it and see if its what I am looking for.
[01:36] <fiery_cleric> julian: right ... so you want to buy another one?
[01:36] <HymnToLife> moox, and the exact output of apt-get
[01:36] <moox> mmh seems some times ago, I froze a version of libgphoto ..could be the problem
[01:37] <moox> kamera: Dpend: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.3.0) mais 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 devra tre install
[01:37] <moox> kamera: Dpend: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.3.0) mais 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 devra tre install
[01:37] <moox> kamera: Dpend: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.3.0) mais 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 devra tre install
[01:37] <SubMOA> flankk, no I'm pretty sure they weren't CD's... I think he used a program to mash it all together, though.
[01:37] <julian> fiery_cleric: Probably simplest - any suggestions for a cheap compatible card?
[01:37] <SubMOA> flankk, ohh well... I'll figure something out.  Thank you very much for your time.
[01:37] <moox> sorry
[01:38] <moox> HymnToLife: do you know how can I remove the lock on this package ?
[01:38] <stefg> moox: that's probably better asked in #kubuntu
[01:38] <fiery_cleric> julian: ive not bought a wired 10/100 NIC for linux for a while, but its got pretty good support , just get the cheapest .... it will probably work
[01:38] <easytiger> that compiz howto for kbuntu is just terible
[01:39] <julian> fiery_cleric: PC World have a PC LINE NW100B PCI CARD ADAPTER 10/100 MBPS at 8!
[01:39] <JeEz> Is it possible to install pidgen 2.0 on 7.04 amd 64
[01:39] <Spee_Der> sercik, I'm looking at that monitor, nice. Where is the xorg.conf paste please ?
[01:39] <Bibagi> is that possible to run ubuntu desktop version as a server ? :S
[01:39] <sercik> see here: http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000429998447347815
[01:39] <sercik> and now i paste xorg.conf
[01:40] <KDan> hi all. I'm trying to start mysqld on my machine. This used to work fine. Now it tells me: "Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address \\ Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?"... netstat -t, nmap, etc show nothing on that port. Any thoughts?
[01:40] <predaeus> Bibagi, yes you can run servers on the Desktop release
[01:40] <jpjacobs> Bibagi, probably, but what exactly do you mean by server? gameserver, ftpserver,vncserver sshserver, mailserver, webserver,....
[01:40] <stefg> !info lamp
[01:40] <ubotu> Package lamp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:40] <sercik> This is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/472178
[01:41] <fiery_cleric> julian: have a look at the ethernet section of http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/nic.htm , those are supported chipsets ...
[01:41] <julian> fiery_cleric: OK. Thanks.
[01:41] <jay_> anyone know how to fix the slow connection of nfs and ssh on ubuntu server?
[01:41] <predaeus> KDan, did you try running it as sudo?
[01:41] <Spee_Der> sercik, ok. let me look and study, be back in a few minutes. Also, need more fresh coffee.... :}
[01:41] <KDan> predaeus: yes
[01:42] <KDan> i did not try not running it as sudo
[01:42] <sercik> Spee_Der: thank you very much i go tu lunch my mother has already called me :)
[01:42] <Bibagi> jpjacobs : DHCP/ Webserver mail server
[01:42] <stefg> !ipv6 | jay_
[01:42] <ubotu> jay_: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:42] <predaeus> KDan, did you check with   ps -e   if it is not running already?
[01:42] <KDan> yes
[01:42] <tracian> is anyone romanian here?
[01:42] <predaeus> KDan, then I've no idea sorry.
[01:42] <stefg> !ro
[01:42] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[01:42] <Spee_Der> sercik, ok. Talk later. Enjoy lunch.....  I will be back later.....
[01:42] <KDan> dang.
[01:43] <jay_> sweet thanks!
[01:43] <JeEz> Is it possible to install pidgen 2.0 on ubuntu 7.04 feisty (amd 64) ?
[01:43] <predaeus> KDan, keep asking probably somebody who knows comes by
[01:43] <Bibagi> jpjacobs : DHCP  Webserver mail server
[01:43] <KDan> predaeus: yeah, i will
[01:43] <predaeus> KDan, also check the forums for info
[01:43] <KDan> hi all. I'm trying to start mysqld on my machine (sudo'ed). This used to work fine. Now it tells me: "Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address \\ Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?"... netstat -t, nmap, etc show nothing on that port. ps doesn't show mysql running. Any thoughts?
[01:43] <tdn> In the alternate installer under Partition disks, what does the "K" mean and the "f"? I am guessing the "f" is for format, but what about the "K"?
[01:44] <mtholdenss> good ! need help, yes i like linux, but my parents came to it, and i installed ubuntu and got it all going, but network printer is a prob, works on xp and mac, but can't get it working on ubuntu, and is there a way to get mail from evolution to a format where outlook express can import em, they kinda want xp back.. instead of dual booting, just have xp
[01:44] <Bibagi> :(:(
[01:45] <stefg> !cups | mtholdenss
[01:45] <ubotu> mtholdenss: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:45] <mtholdenss> stefg already tried that
[01:45] <Possum> mtholdenss, set up grub to default to booting into windows; your parents will never know the difference :)
[01:46] <Ginga> HI
[01:46] <KDan> aha, i figured it out
[01:46] <stefg> mtholdenss: and there's no simple way to generate OE readable mail from evolution
[01:46] <mtholdenss> possum, but then what about their personal email still in evolution in ubuntu?
[01:46] <spikerman> Who can tell me how to use telnet?
[01:46] <Bibagi> :[ no Answer :[ :[ :[
[01:46] <mtholdenss> ok what about outlook not outlook express..
[01:46] <KDan> predaeus: my.cnf was telling it to bind to 192.168.2.10. The current ip address is 192.168.1.108
[01:46] <Ginga> type    telnet hostname port
[01:46] <Ginga> lol
[01:46] <shinygerbil> spikerman: what do you need to know?
[01:46] <Ginga> spikerman: what specifically?
[01:46] <predaeus> KDan, ah ic
[01:46] <Flannel> KDan: youre using it locally, right?  Only want to connect to it from that machine?
[01:47] <stefg> spikerman: what's wrong with ssh? telnet is so insecure that it was nearly entirely replaced by ssh
[01:47] <mcn06> Hello, is there an alternative to the apple mac application launcher bar at the bottom?
[01:47] <mtholdenss> stefg, what about outlook?
[01:47] <shinygerbil> stefg: if you're just mucking about with BBS door games or something i don't see much of a problem with telnet ;P
[01:48] <stefg> mtholdenss: microsoft puts its pride in generatin incomprehendable, closed formats.. that's called vendor-lock-in, and it works, as you can see
[01:48] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric are you there?
[01:48] <Possum> stefg, telnet is a lot more flexible than ssh :P
[01:48] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: yup
[01:49] <fiery_cleric> why dont use use telnet over ssh tunnel :)
[01:49] <spikerman> shinygerbil, i using ubuntu6.10,I installed telnet-server,but how can i start the telnet server?
[01:49] <KDan> Flannel: at the moment, yeah. i've switched it to localhost now
[01:49] <KDan> there is the odd time when i want to connect from my other laptop
[01:49] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric ok, I've comment out telnet in /etc/inetd.conf and I've restarted /usr/sbin/inetd
[01:49] <dxdemetriou> anybody worked with mystickies ad-on on firefox on feisty? Don't work with me
[01:49] <spikerman> shinygerbil, i can't find telnet in directory /etc/initd.d
[01:50] <mcn06> nb : I think it's called the "system dock" in apple
[01:50] <fiery_cleric> two birds with one stone....
[01:50] <mcn06> does anyone know if a linux version is availble?>
[01:50] <shinygerbil> you want to run your own telnet server? I'm not sure how to go about it. you might want to start with "man telnetd" (without quotes)
[01:50] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric but telnetd don't work yet
[01:50] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: so is inetd running?
[01:50] <spikerman> shinygerbil, o
[01:50] <Possum> mcn06, there's something called kibadock you can try
[01:50] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric wait, now I check it
[01:51] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: i dont have feisty ... so i dont know what that uses.... but on dapper it uses the standard inetd
[01:51] <Bibagi> is that possible to run ubuntu desktop version as a server ? :S ( Webserver DHCP Mailserver )
[01:51] <xiaobing> 
[01:51] <predaeus> Bibagi, yes
[01:51] <Bibagi> predaeus how man :S
[01:51] <Possum> mcn06, also look at engage: http://www.enlightenment.org/Applications/Engage/
[01:51] <xiaobing> why are you Use Englist
[01:51] <stefg> Bibagi: just apt-get the appropriate packeges
[01:51] <Blissex> Bibagi: sure, they are identical, except for a different selection of packages installeed by default.
[01:52] <Bibagi> stefg but i dont know the names :S
[01:52] <fiery_cleric> spikerman: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart , ... make sure in.telnetd is uncommented in /etc/inetd.conf
[01:52] <Blissex> Bibagi: look at the tasks list.
[01:52] <stefg> !info apache
[01:52] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric: hmmm seem that no inetd was started... ps ax | grep inetd does not give results
[01:52] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-4.1 (feisty), package size 384 kB, installed size 816 kB
[01:52] <Blissex> Bibagi: use 'aptitude' or Synaptic.
[01:52] <bimberi_> !cn | xia
[01:52] <ubotu> xia: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:52] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: how do you know you have installed the package for it
[01:53] <Trackilizer> Hey guys, need your help.
[01:53] <spikerman> fiery_cleric, I have no inetd service
[01:53] <Trackilizer> Whats the command for reconfiguring xserver?
[01:53] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric inetd ?
[01:53] <fiery_cleric> spikerman: ok disregard what ive said.... you and Guest11549 are in the same boat ....
[01:54] <aldin> hi, how do i recompile tcl/tk8.4 to have antialiased support for amsn?
[01:54] <mcn06> ty Possum
[01:54] <Trackilizer> It goes something like "reconfigure xserver xorg" or somwthing like that.
[01:54] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric :)
[01:54] <dmilith> anyone knows how to adjust brightness of my screen?
[01:54] <dmilith> in X
[01:54] <Bibagi> Blissex can u name 1/2 for dhcp and mailserver plz :$
[01:54] <fsancho> hi all
[01:55] <Blissex> Bibagi: dhcpd3 and exim or postfix
[01:55] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric and so what we have to do?
[01:55] <dmilith> i have low brightness monitor and i need to increase brightness software way
[01:55] <dmilith> anyone knows?
[01:55] <Bibagi> Blissex thanks
[01:55] <fsancho> i'm trying to install feisty in an acer aspire 1650, but the installer crashes at 50% of copy phase
[01:55] <Blissex> dmilith: you cannot increase brightness in software. You can only decrease it...
[01:55] <dmilith> Blissex: :{
[01:55] <Trackilizer> Anyone?
[01:55] <fsancho> i look at syslog and see an ata0 error and squashfs errors
[01:55] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: i dont know on feisty ....
[01:55] <Blissex> dmilith: however try for a very poor workaround to look at 'man xgamma'.
[01:56] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: why do you just use ssh
[01:56] <dmilith> Blissex: thanks :}
[01:56] <fsancho> is there a way to launch live cd with a cdrom secure mode?
[01:56] <predaeus> Trackilizer, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg probably, not sure what the package name is
[01:56] <fiery_cleric> fsancho: cdrom secure?
[01:56] <Trackilizer> predaeus, thanks, I'll try that.
[01:57] <fsancho> i have checked the CD for errors and it is ok
[01:57] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric already I have ssh and others, but now I need telnetd to connect to my home from my office
[01:57] <fsancho> fiery_cleric: kernel parameters to boot with no dma, or dma33 for cdrom
[01:57] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: over the internet ? ....
[01:57] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric and I want to do this with java applet that use telnetd
[01:57] <kaolti> how can i get GLib 2.0 development headers installed?
[01:58] <hidan> guys, what tool would I use to resize Ubuntu partition? This is because I restored my 5 gb Ubuntu image to a 18 gb partition and the partition free space and size are incorrect.
[01:58] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: you shouldnt be using telnet on "the internet"
[01:58] <jrib> kaolti: install the libglib2.0-dev package
[01:58] <MindOfChaos> yea ssh
[01:58] <fsancho> i have seen that 2.6.20 uses an scsi interface to work with ide cdrom and ide hdd,
[01:58] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric hmmm... ok .. my telnetd must be in listening on localhost
[01:58] <MindOfChaos> Telnet is not secure
[01:58] <fsancho> can it be disabled?
[01:58] <Trackilizer> predaeus, didn't work, unknown command
[01:58] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric my lan
[01:59] <progek> since switching to feisty I've had a problem using TTF_FONT (sdl font addon library) when using it, I catch the error-> Failed loading DPMSDisable: /usr/lib/libX11.so.6: ,, now the font loads ok, but I can't use it. Any ideas here?
[01:59] <kaolti> jrib: thx
[01:59] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric then I can connect from remote to my telnetd with another program called webmin
[01:59] <shinygerbil> telnet isn't secure, but surely if you don't submit any sensitive information it doesn't really matter..? Or are you saying there are security holes which allow other users access?
[01:59] <Borix> hi all, i have deleted the gnome control menu when editing the preference menu, how can i get it back?
[02:00] <xarann> feisty uses 2.6.20 kernel?
[02:00] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric and this one is in ssl
[02:00] <shinygerbil> xarann: I believe so
[02:00] <MindOfChaos> yes
[02:00] <MindOfChaos> xarann yes
[02:00] <MindOfChaos> it does
[02:00] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: what are you trying to do? ... connect another computer on your LAN , or over the internet?
[02:00] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric finally I can connect with my telnetd throught ssl (webmin) ok?
[02:00] <MindOfChaos> it also works perfectly with Intel Core 2 duo motherboards
[02:00] <fsancho> can i disable pata driver and boot with lecacy ide driver in feisty live cd?
[02:01] <kaolti> jrib: GTK+ 2.0 development headers?
[02:01] <shriphani> can i remove a few packages from xubuntu desktop ?
[02:01] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric so I can use my home computer at work.... ok?
[02:01] <jrib> kaolti: what are you compiling?
[02:01] <kaolti> jrib: pidgin
[02:01] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: over the internet or not ... simple question
[02:01] <jrib> kaolti: just do 'sudo apt-get build-dep gaim'
[02:01] <jrib> !compiling > kaolti (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:01] <asherZ> hi
[02:02] <MindOfChaos> telnet tunneled through ssh?
[02:02] <kaolti> jrib: kk thanks
[02:02] <icecruncher> kaolti: I compiled it, but am missing ssl suport
[02:02] <LjL> MindOfChaos: ... eh?! =)
[02:02] <kaolti> icecruncher: so apt-get build-dep gaim?
[02:02] <MindOfChaos> weird
[02:02] <MindOfChaos> nvm
[02:03] <MindOfChaos> He was talking about using telnet through ssh...
[02:03] <LjL> well that's a good idea actually
[02:03] <MindOfChaos> nvm
[02:03] <LjL> i think we might call it "SSH". maybe.
[02:03] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric I know very well that telnet is insecure and I want to connect to it via another ssl program
[02:04] <MindOfChaos> i think we mite be lazy
[02:04] <MindOfChaos> and call it ssh
[02:04] <LjL> MindOfChaos: without the quotation marks? never.
[02:04] <icecruncher> kaolti: yes
[02:04] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: question, why not just use putty on windows (assuming you have windows at work) , to connect to your home pc using ssh?
[02:04] <kaolti> icecruncher: kk
[02:04] <Trackilizer> So, does anyone know how the commad goes? something like "dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg.conf"
[02:05] <LjL> Guest11549, may you say again for me why you don't just use SSH?
[02:05] <jrib> !xconfig > Trackilizer (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:06] <MindOfChaos> So Trackilizer killed his xorg conf?
[02:06] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric becouse at work only 1 port is open in outbound
[02:06] <Trackilizer> Yes, killed it while trying to get twinview to work
[02:06] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: ok you could bind ssh to port 80....
[02:06] <LjL> Guest11549, well so? you can put SSH on that port
[02:06] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric and I want webmin tool
[02:07] <LjL> Guest11549: hm well how would that be different with telnet?
[02:07] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric no 'couse on my 80 there is my httpd :)
[02:07] <MindOfChaos> oh
[02:07] <void^_> just use ssh to tunnel http
[02:07] <MindOfChaos> i put my http up to some thing high
[02:07] <MindOfChaos> port
[02:08] <MindOfChaos> people don't usually scan up too high :D
[02:08] <Borix> hi all, i have deleted the gnome control menu when editing the preference menu, how can i get it back?
[02:09] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: you could maybe have a cgi program on your web server to give you a shell
[02:09] <sercik> Spee_Der: I'm here if you want
[02:09] <fsancho> anyone knows how to boot feisty cd to use ide-legacy driver instead pata driver?
[02:09] <kaolti> icecruncher: i get Errors were encountered while processing: libhesiod0 libzephyr3 libzephyr-dev
[02:10] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: or run a socks proxy....
[02:10] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric right, but telnet module  already it's present in webmin
[02:10] <rmd_> under kubuntu, openoffice.org does not display any icons in the program, only text.  anyone have an idea why?
[02:10] <LjL> fiery_cleric: yeah i was looking for that, but...
[02:10] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric so now I only need to start my telnetd...
[02:10] <LjL> !info jta
[02:10] <ubotu> jta: Java telnet/ssh applet. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.5-2 (feisty), package size 247 kB, installed size 316 kB
[02:11] <LjL> not sure if this is it. i don't think it is, looking at the documentation. but have a look, maybe i'm wrong.
[02:11] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: ok so its going to  be a local telnet connection from localhost to localhost ?
[02:12] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric yes!
[02:12] <fiery_cleric> finally !
[02:12] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric :)
[02:13] <kaolti> anyone knwos why i get Errors were encountered while processing: libhesiod0 libzephyr3 libzephyr-dev when doing apt-get build-dep gaim?
[02:13] <kaolti> knows*
[02:13] <Spee_Der> sercik, I'm here also, but kind'a busy at the moment. Give me a bit of time please.....
[02:13] <sharperguy> whats the best way to install pidgin 2.0.0 in Feisty?
[02:14] <sercik> ok ok don't woeey
[02:14] <sercik> worry
[02:14] <Sergo> hello, please help me to make scroll on notebook to work
[02:14] <LjL> kaolti, you should pastebin the whole output, not just that line (which is a bit meaningless alone)
[02:14] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: why do you search your installed packages to see if you have a thing called something similar to inetd
[02:14] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know how I could modify the version information stored in a .deb file ?
[02:14] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: dpkg -l |grep inetd
[02:15] <harpi> what dos this mean "config.status: WARNING:  po/Makefile.in.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting"
[02:15] <Sergo> anyone know how to make scroll work on laptops
[02:15] <LjL> Samus_Aran, there are certainly tools for that, but i can tell you a .deb is an ar file (open with "ar x file") containing two tarballs (open with "tar xf file"), of which control.tar.gz contains the package information
[02:15] <Sergo> built'in laptop scroll
[02:16] <Gary_> hello all i need some help installing Ubuntu please
[02:16] <LjL> !ask
[02:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:17] <Gary_> i have downloaded Ubuntu 7.04 and need help trying to figure out how to find the installer
[02:17] <kaolti> LjL: ok here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19260/
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: restart with the diskin your cdrom
[02:17] <LjL> Gary_: ... err? it's the icon labelled "Install" on the top left corner of the desktop.
[02:17] <Gary_> i have d/l the 697MB file
[02:17] <sharperguy> LjL, I dont think he's booted it yet
[02:18] <Spee_Der> sercik,
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: did you burn the iso file to a cd/dvd?
[02:18] <sharperguy> Gary_, you need to burn the image to a disk
[02:18] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric dpkg -l | grep ined  doesn't got results
[02:18] <Cnl_Delta> hi there, whats the best irc client for kubuntu, save for konversation
[02:18] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: inetd
[02:18] <Gary_> whats the file name
[02:18] <Samus_Aran> LjL: thanks for the info.  I think debtags-edit does what I want, installing it atm
[02:18] <Gary_> sbm.bin?
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> what the?
[02:18] <LjL> kaolti, it would seem there is a bug in some of those packages, unless you have some nasty third party repositories enabled. could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list too?
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: stick with windows
[02:18] <LjL> Gary_: EH?
[02:18] <kaolti> LjL: sure sec
[02:19] <kbrooks> !test
[02:19] <ubotu> Failed
[02:19] <Cnl_Delta> Gary_:  ya need to burn the iso and reboot the computer with it
[02:19] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric ii  update-inetd                               4.27-0.2                               inetd.conf updater
[02:19] <LjL> Cnl_Delta: KvIRC is good. it's not very "KDE-like", but.
[02:19] <kazol> Is it worth installing beryl on Feisty-is it stable?
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> Cnl_Delta: he's talking about a bin fileof some sort.
[02:19] <LjL> !beryl > kazol    (kazol, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:19] <Gary_> what is the name of the ISO file, i have Daemon tools so i can restart using that or burn to disk
[02:20] <Cnl_Delta> kvirc uh
[02:20] <LjL> Gary_: you can't restart and boot from an ISO using Daemon Tools..
[02:20] <mc44> Gary_: the name of the iso is the name of the file you downloaded...
[02:20] <harpi> i am trying to compile libextractor for gnunet but i always get the same error      config.status: WARNING:  po/Makefile.in.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting   someone know what this means??
[02:20] <bronxcoder1976> Hello everyone
[02:20] <sharperguy> Gary_, ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[02:20] <LjL> you need to burn the CD, man. and the CD is an .iso file, which means it's not a .bin file, gary_
[02:20] <kaolti> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19261/
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: you downloaded the iSo file, only you know the name of it, there's lots of them
 you need to burn the CD, man. and the CD is an .iso file, which means it's not a .bin file, gary_ # um
[02:20] <kbrooks> ljl: he can do weird things :-)
[02:21] <hylje> i assume compiz is bundled with feisty; is there a tool supplied to control it apart from cube/wobbly effects?
[02:21] <HotAsianGirl> I just uninstall GAIM so that I can install Pidgin. it says GAIM is removed so is my GNOME Desktop. am in trouble?
[02:21] <LjL> hylje: don't think so
[02:21] <mc44> hylje: gnome-compiz-manager
[02:21] <kbrooks> HotAsianGirl, no
[02:21] <kbrooks> HotAsianGirl, you're confused
[02:21] <mc44> LjL: its not installed by default but there is one
[02:21] <Gary_> look i have a .zip file called ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[02:21] <ubuntuEdgy> hey van any one help with this mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:21] <hylje> mc44: ah thankyou
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: how did you get it zipped?
[02:22] <bronxcoder1976> I am using the server install.  I installed the desktop enviornment but dont what it to boot up by default.  Anyone know how to force ubuntu to startup at command prompt?
[02:22] <kbrooks> HotAsianGirl, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. by itself, it can be removed
[02:22] <Gary_> i do not know
[02:22] <mc44> hylje: once installed run gnome-compiz-preferences
[02:22] <Gary_> but i d/l it as a zip file
[02:22] <Vastlee> I have a widescreen monitor.  At 1280X960 it is fine, but when I try to change to 1680X1050 it doesn't center my screen correctly.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:22] <LjL> mc44: yes, sure. i meant by default.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: can you provide a link wherey ou downloaded this?
[02:22] <kbrooks> HotAsianGirl, but please put it back on when you upgrade.
[02:22] <mc44> LjL: of course you did :p
[02:22] <LjL> Gary_: if it's called "blahblah.iso", why would you think it's a ZIP file?
[02:22] <sharperguy> Gary_, its not a zip, its a disk image, which you have to burn to a disk
[02:22] <Ginga> lol
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[02:22] <Cnl_Delta> he's gotta convert the bin into an iso and then burn it..
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> iso... zip.. same thing..lol
[02:23] <Gary_> well it showed a file association of winrar
[02:23] <Ginga> winrar lets you browse and extract iso files
[02:23] <HotAsianGirl> ok, thankyou i guess i'll try restarting the computer so that Pidgin can show up cause it doesn't after i install and uninstall it.  put what back on when i upgrade? GAIM? i dont know how to reinstall GNOME desktop, i dont even know what that is.
[02:23] <Cnl_Delta> xpcdburner can do the job in xp
[02:23] <jpjacobs> Gary_, to be sure what kind of file it is (not regarding the extension) try "file <your file>"
[02:23] <Samus_Aran> Vastlee: start by getting the manual for the monitor and find out the vertical and horizontal refresh rates and enter them in your xorg.conf
[02:23] <LjL> kaolti: i'm on Feisty, and that's Dapper, so i can't try it myself, but there is a problem in your sources.list (which may or may not be the cause)
[02:23] <fiery_cleric> Guest11549: they have changed inetd on feisty .... look at packages.ubuntu.com for your options... you probably dont have one installed yet...
[02:23] <kaolti> LjL: what do you suggest?
[02:23] <harpi> no one :'(
[02:23] <LjL> kaolti: you have dapper-updates and dapper-security only enabled for main and restricted. unless you also enable them for universe and universe, you'll run into trouble (well, you have already)
[02:23] <sharperguy> Gary_, what program do you useually use to burn things to a CD?
[02:23] <Gary_> i use nero
[02:23] <bronxcoder1976> I am using the server install.  I installed the desktop enviornment but dont what it to boot up by default.  Anyone know how to force ubuntu to startup at command prompt?
[02:24] <LjL> kaolti: i suggest you try using the sources.list i'm going to give you in a moment, then doing a "sudo apt-get update", and a "sudo apt-get -f install", and hope that fixes it
[02:24] <sharperguy> Gary_, find the "burn iso" or "burn disk image" option in it and choose the .iso file
[02:24] <Gary_> and i closed the win rar and booted up the iso on daemon tools, and a little browser pop up came up
[02:24] <kaolti> LjL: ok
[02:24] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[02:24] <Gary_> it says boot from this cd to try ubuntu without affecting your system
[02:24] <dinochopins> I just setup ubuntu server
[02:25] <dinochopins> and I set my hostname to ns1.abc.com
[02:25] <sharperguy> Gary_, that will allow you to install some of the programs that ubuntu used in windows, to try them out, if you want to install you have to burn it to a disk and reboot
[02:25] <dinochopins> and I set my hostname to ns1.abc.com.
[02:25] <dinochopins> after I rebooted ... it said it is an invalid hostname
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: BURN THE ISO TO A DISK AND REBOOT
[02:25] <dinochopins> I'm not connecting it to the internt
[02:25] <dinochopins> what's wrong ?
[02:25] <LjL> kaolti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19262/ here you go
[02:25] <Gary_> jeesus no need to get freakin hostile ok
[02:25] <Gary_> i am new
[02:25] <fiveiron> anyone else not getting audio from the flash player?
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> Gary_: its just you've been told the same thing at least 8
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> times
[02:25] <sharperguy> Gary_, when you boot from the disk it will allow you to use ubnut uwithout affecting your system until you click the install ion
[02:26] <sharperguy> *icon
[02:26] <kaolti> LjL: thanks a lot
[02:26] <Gary_> well i was confused because it was a winrar association in windows
[02:26] <Gary_> so i didnt know what to do
[02:26] <Cnl_Delta> ubuntu cannot be installed from xp
[02:26] <Gary_> i will burn it now
[02:26] <LjL> Gary_, *booting* a computer doesn't mean telling Daemon Tools to load an ISO. it means *burning the CD, then hitting Reboot, with the CD in the drive and after telling the BIOS that you want to boot from CD*.
[02:26] <mc44> IndyGunFreak: play nicely :p
[02:26] <sharperguy> LjL, he gets it now
[02:26] <LjL> Gary_, if you're in Windows, you're not "booting" the computer.
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> mc44: i am.. i always do.
[02:26] <prodigel> Hello everyone. Long live ubuntu! :)  Here's an easy one. How do I change the default player associated to my myltimedia key? I'm using gnome.
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> you can only repeat yourself somany times
[02:26] <Cnl_Delta> windows 3.1 got a lot of booting from me
[02:26] <kbrooks> HotAsianGirl, <Cnl_Delta> ubuntu cannot be installed from xp # it can
[02:27] <kbrooks> er
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> thought he wasn't getting the message
 ubuntu cannot be installed from xp # it can
[02:27] <Cnl_Delta> in vmware i guess
[02:27] <kbrooks> Cnl_Delta, theres a program for it
[02:27] <kbrooks> Cnl_Delta, no need for vmware
[02:27] <kbrooks> i won't link to the program though
[02:27] <Borix> i have deleted the gnome control menu when editing the preference menu, how can i get it back? or what is the file name? i have ubuntu 7,04
[02:27] <kbrooks> i'm not sure i'm allowed to
[02:28] <fiery_cleric> prodigel: have a look in the preferences its there
[02:28] <LjL> kbrooks, warn that the program is experimental and might break systems blah blah, and feel free to link to it.
[02:28] <nbjayme> greetings!  what does the Auto-Open Files in "Removable media" settings mean?  and where to place the files for it to be auto-opened?
[02:28] <prodigel> fiery_cleric: I've looked everywhere and I can't find it. preferred applications, sound, nothing.
[02:29] <fiery_cleric> nbjayme: you mean "auto run"?
[02:29] <Cnl_Delta> how do i link gtk-gnutella to  a music player such as Amarok?
[02:29] <c1|freaky> hi all. is there any tool (webinterface or cmdline) which displays folders which use the most diskspace
[02:29] <nbjayme> in fiesty there is "auto-open files"
[02:29] <loca|host> how to shutdown minicom ?
[02:29] <Cnl_Delta> as in play a downloaded file when clicked on
[02:29] <sharperguy> Borix, add a new option and call it "GNOME Control Centre" and the command is "gnome-control-center" and choose the spanner and screwdriver icon
[02:29] <LjL> c1|freaky: try Baobab (i think it should even be installed by default)
[02:29] <loca|host> anyone ?
[02:29] <LjL> c1|freaky: for command line, though, there's "du" which can do that nicely enough.
[02:30] <Borix> thx shaperguy, trying now :)
[02:30] <kbrooks> wubi - Windows UBuntu Installer -  http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html # wubi is not endorsed by Ubuntu, is experimental and might break your Windows system.
[02:30] <Gary_> quick question, can i use a DVD
[02:30] <Gary_> to burn the iso
[02:30] <harpi> do i have to ./configure as root?
[02:30] <fiery_cleric> prodigel: keyboard shortcuts
[02:30] <LjL> harpi: no. never.
[02:30] <kbrooks> harpi, no, in fact thats very bad
[02:30] <nbjayme> fiery_cleric : there is an auto-open files check box in fiesty's preference -> removable drives and media
[02:31] <HymnToLife> harpi, no, unless what you're tring to configure is in a dir where you don't have write access
[02:31] <Micieri> D:
[02:31] <kbrooks> harpi, never, ever under any circumstance use sudo on ./configure or make
[02:31] <LjL> harpi: you don't "make" as root, either. the only thing you do as root is "make install" (or you might want to use checkinstall, anyway)
[02:31] <HymnToLife> which is a bad idea anyway
[02:31] <kbrooks> harpi, ever. at all.
[02:31] <loca|host> howto exit minicom ?
[02:31] <LjL> loca|host: alt+q, y -- if i remember right
[02:31] <harpi> then why dos it say Makefile.in.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting?
[02:32] <HymnToLife> kbrooks, oh yeah ? I sudo make very often
[02:32] <Cnl_Delta> hmm is there a way to change /media/hda4 into /share?
[02:32] <kbrooks> ljl: btw, checkinstall's default command is "make install". but it can be changed
[02:32] <Gary_> i have a question, can i use a DVD instead of a CD?
[02:32] <LjL> loca|host: no, ctrl+a, then q, then y
[02:32] <kaolti> LjL: im getting the same error when i do apt-get -f install
[02:32] <prodigel> fiery_cleric: you're missing the point. The key is well associated, but I want it to open xmss instead of rythmbox
[02:32] <sharperguy> Gary_, I'm not sure, I would use a CDr if you have one, also make sure you burn at a slow speed because a small error can be very bad
[02:32] <LjL> kbrooks, i know
[02:32] <Micieri> sharperguy - Damn, really?
[02:32] <Micieri> I was told to force it at 40x..
[02:32] <Gary_> its burning at its slowest speed
[02:32] <loca|host> LjL, nothing happens
[02:32] <kaolti> LjL: could this be because i tried to compile the source?
[02:32] <LjL> kaolti: try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (you remembered to do the "sudo apt-get update" part, right?)
[02:32] <Carroarmato0> I've got a problem: trying to force X to display at a higher resolution
[02:32] <dtwazere> Hi, i need help setting up my internet and allowing me to write to USB disks that i plug in, if you can help me can you pm me please?
[02:32] <loca|host> LjL, it says Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
[02:33] <kaolti> LjL: yea i've done update
[02:33] <loca|host> LjL, What is CTRL-A ??
[02:33] <sharperguy> Micieri, yeah, I think its all the compression
[02:33] <LjL> loca|host: press Ctrl, keep it pressed, press "a", release both, then press "q"
[02:33] <Micieri> Crap, well that might explain why it crashed on 4 different CDs..
[02:33] <kazol> what program should I install in Feisty to get transparency and shadow?
[02:33] <dtwazere> How can I enable me the permission to write to my USB drive that I plug in?
[02:33] <kaolti> LjL: same error :(
[02:34] <loca|host> LjL, that's ok, thanks
[02:34] <HymnToLife> !compiz | kazol
[02:34] <ubotu> kazol: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <dinochopins> hi
[02:34] <dinochopins> all
[02:34] <LjL> kaolti: try "sudo apt-get remove libhesiod0"
[02:34] <dinochopins> i set my hostname to ns1.abc.com. when i install ubuntu server
[02:34] <Micieri> I kept getting a 'crc' error, and someone said it's because I burned the image wrong..
[02:34] <Cnl_Delta> is there  a way to change add a mount point to a pre-existing hard drive partition (FAT32)
[02:34] <Micieri> so they told me to force at 40x
[02:34] <dinochopins> is that a correct one ?
[02:34] <LjL> 40x?
[02:34] <sharperguy> kazol, its the "Desktop Effects" option in preferences
[02:34] <HymnToLife> Cnl_Delta, yes, just edit your fstab accordingly
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> 40x?..lol
[02:34] <LjL> dinochopins: err, probably not.
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> burn it as slow as possible.
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> force it around 2x
[02:35] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[02:35] <Micieri> Ok I'll do that now then
[02:35] <LjL> dinochopins: i think you should use a local - not a .com - domainname
[02:35] <kazol> sharperguy: I tried that, but the title bar disappeared on all windows! I could not move them
[02:35] <dinochopins> LjL : I need to install PLESK... and I need to setup a domain name
[02:35] <kaolti> LjL: ok they are removed now i'll try to do build-dep gaim again
[02:35] <The_Giver> anyone using beryl?
[02:35] <LjL> kaolti: do another "apt-get -f install" first
[02:36] <The_Giver> i cant figure out how to  make the cube loook like if its on 3d space
[02:36] <loca|host> LjL, i dont get minicom connected to my ttyUSB1 (serial to usb), how to force minicom to connect to that dev ?
[02:36] <sharperguy> kazol, hmm, the feature is experimental, that's not supposed to happen
[02:36] <dinochopins> LjL : I haven't installed any DNS yet... is that a correct way to set hostname ?
[02:36] <LjL> !beryl > The_Giver    (The_Giver, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:36] <The_Giver> right now it just does like a rotation that takes up the entire screen
[02:36] <Cnl_Delta> it worked HymnToLife
[02:36] <dinochopins> LjL : my /etc/hosts is now contain => 192.168.1.2     ns1.abc.com..abc.com.     ns1.abc.com.
[02:36] <moox> hi there. Some times ago, with edgy, I lock the version of libgphoto2-2 using dpkg or apt (I don't remeber). Now, I need to remove this lock. How can I do that ?
[02:36] <sharperguy> kazol, I would ask for help in #ubuntu-effects then
[02:36] <LjL> loca|host: Ctrl+A, O, "Serial port setup"
[02:37] <LjL> dinochopins, if everything works right...
[02:37] <fiery_cleric> prodigel: ok i dont know what the preference (or if it exists) but check /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/ configuration editor key ... it might be in there
[02:37] <loca|host> LjL, ok
[02:37] <kaolti> LjL: ok i've done -f instal and then build-dep and same error
[02:37] <kaolti> :P
[02:37] <LjL> kaolti: -f install didn't give you any errors, though?
[02:37] <Vastlee> Is there some reason I don't want to just log in as the root user and always be him?
[02:37] <Micieri> Ok I got like
[02:37] <dinochopins> LjL: well... it isn't
[02:37] <Micieri> 1x or 2x speed
[02:37] <Micieri> which?
[02:37] <LjL> Vastlee: there is a vast number of reasons.
[02:38] <Micieri> I can wait an hour for it to do 1x if needed..
[02:38] <kbrooks> Vastlee, way too many reasons
[02:38] <dinochopins> LjL: when I ping to ns1.abc.com it doesn't return any replies...
[02:38] <kbrooks> ljl: may i?
[02:38] <kaolti> LjL:0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:38] <LjL> kbrooks: do what?
[02:38] <Vastlee> Hrmm.. seems crappy to me that I can't edit a file without doing a special command.
[02:38] <dinochopins> LjL: I thought I have to use Fully Qualified Domain name ?
[02:38] <kbrooks> ljl: list those reasons ;-)
[02:38] <LjL> kbrooks: sure, go on :)
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: i always burn arond 2x, no probs
[02:38] <Micieri> Ok.
[02:39] <kbrooks> Vastlee, sudo is necessary because you are forced to type in your password and actually think about your action before you do it
[02:39] <Vastlee> Hrmm... well ok.
[02:40] <kbrooks> Vastlee, the reasons are as follows, in no particular order:
[02:40] <LjL> dinochopins, honestly i'm not too familiar with *actual* domain names. all i know is that, usually, one has a primary hostname that's only locally valid, and same goes for the domain.  anyway, that hosts file doesn't look right to me... shouldn't that be "192.168.1.2  ns1 ns1.abc.com.", if anything?
[02:40] <kbrooks> Vastlee, * if attacker gets hand on computer physically which is logged in as root, you're preety much out of luck
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: even at 2x, it shouldn't take an hour o burn, usually about 5min or so.
[02:41] <kbrooks> Vastlee, * if root user is compromised, your system is compromised
[02:41] <dinochopins> LjL : I thought so... Quite confuse right now :(
[02:41] <Vastlee> Linux is more secure I guess.
[02:41] <Micieri> Ok :P
[02:42] <kbrooks> Vastlee, * logging as root for day to day tasks is insecure because it exposes your system to a variety of vulnerabilities which can be quite severe
[02:42] <dinochopins> LjL: and when I type `hostname` => ns1.abc.com
[02:42] <Micieri> Well I burned Knoppix (DVD) and that took like 30 mins at 5x
[02:42] <Micieri> But then again it was 4GB..
[02:42] <dinochopins> how do I re-set the hostname ?
[02:42] <Vastlee> Yeah that kinda makes sense.  Thanks :)
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> Vastlee: you guess?
[02:42] <dinochopins> how do I re-set the hostname.. permanently ?
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: if i recalll, knoppix iso is quite a bit bigger than ubuntus
[02:42] <LjL> !hostname > dinochopins    (dinochopins, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:42] <Carroarmato0> Can someone help me with my screen resolution?
[02:42] <tibular> hello, is pidgin final out yet for ubuntu? (running 6.06 lts)
[02:42] <kbrooks> Vastlee, the weakest link to security is YOU ] 
[02:42] <Micieri> Yes, the DVD version at least
[02:42] <stammi> hi. I have a daper system here which randomly freezes (maybe related to USB usage). firefox often crashes with a segmentation fault. Memcheck from a feisty alternate cd passed 100%. does anyone have an idea what to do?
[02:43] <Micieri> WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[02:43] <Micieri> I said 2x speed and it's gone to 8x
[02:43] <Micieri> ...?
[02:43] <dinochopins> LjL: thanks.. it shows up
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: wel, let it burn at that speed, see if you have better luck
[02:43] <Micieri> Ok.. :/
[02:43] <Micieri> I told it to go 2x though =x
[02:44] <Fox_Mind>  #ubuntu-sa
[02:45] <mohkohn> I am trying to do the triple boot macosx, ubuntu, windows on an intel imac 24 inch
[02:45] <Arrick> hi all, I am using proftpd, and I have a user named ftp in a group bassgoon, I would like to allow the user to create but not modify files, how would one do this?
[02:45] <Arrick> its a ubuntu 6.06.1 lamp server
[02:45] <fiery_cleric> stammi: does it work in windows?
[02:45] <stammi> fiery_cleric, no idea. theres no windows around
[02:46] <fiery_cleric> stammi: so it could be hardware....
[02:46] <mohkohn> I have done the partitioning but I am locking up in Windows setup. It does not respond to the enter key to start the install.
[02:46] <dinochopins> !/etc/hosts
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etc/hosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <dinochopins> !hosts
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <feed> Hi, need help for machine virtualization (vmware) and theme managers.. thanks! QUERY ME
[02:46] <mohkohn> Has anybody else done this or are familiar with dual/triple booting the mac?
[02:47] <LjL> kaolti, that package (libhesiod) has no bugs reported against it, apparently. and yet it seems quite broken on your system... and the error message is less than informative. the package is just a small library, so i'm not sure what could be failing about it... try pasting the file "/var/lib/dpkg/info/libhesiod0.postinst" (i think it should be called that)
[02:47] <stammi> fiery_cleric, I guess so to. but the user reported, the behaviour  started after an apt-get upgrade some time ago
[02:47] <LjL> !msgthebot
[02:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:47] <cox377> whats the smallest cpu for just running a basic webserver using ubuntu?
[02:48] <deejay> Can someone tell me how come I can't select a larger resolution than 1024*786 ?
[02:48] <cox377> using about 256mb ram
[02:48] <LjL> cox377: any.
[02:48] <kaolti> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19265/
[02:48] <HymnToLife> cox377, anything 386 compatible
[02:48] <LjL> !fixres > deejay    (deejay, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:48] <deejay> Okay
[02:48] <Arrick> cox377, ive done it on 133 before with http and ftp
[02:48] <dinochopins> LjL: solve it already.. Thanks for your help ;
[02:48] <dinochopins> LjL: solve it already.. Thanks for your help :)
[02:48] <IdleOne> cox377, Im running desktop 7.04 with P3 191mb ram
[02:48] <feed> Hi, need help for machine virtualization (vmware) and theme managers.. thanks! QUERY ME
[02:49] <cox377> Arrick: its gonna have mysql and php very basic though
[02:49] <crazy_bus> is there an easy way to access the other effects in compiz like snow and rain
[02:49] <cox377> no big databases
[02:49] <Arrick> morning IdleOne
[02:49] <IdleOne> morning Arrick
[02:49] <Arrick> IdleOne, you se my post earlier?
[02:49] <kazol> How do I check if I have Xgl or AIGLX?
[02:50] <IdleOne> Arrick, I did but dont know the answer. dont think you can give a user write permission but not modify permission
[02:50] <umbeebmu> hi. my wlan card does not work anymore with 7.04. Was perfect with 6.06. Any help?
[02:50] <mc44> kazol: what graphics card are you using?
[02:50] <Arrick> IdleOne, ther has to be a way, or else windows has one up on ubuntu ;')
[02:50] <sharperguy> crazy_bus, You'll need to install beryl
[02:50] <IdleOne> Arrick, then there is a way
[02:50] <Arrick> lol
[02:51] <zaggynl> no pidgin for feisty yet?
[02:51] <LjL> kaolti: uhm, funny, the file is the very same as the one i have on Feisty. except it doesn't fail for me on Feisty... try running  sudo sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/libhesiod0.postinst , that should give you debug output
[02:51] <rabid> can anyone advise on how to debug, ever since yesterday i have had random hard locks while logged into ubuntu 7.04, the only thing i know that has changed is that i removed a secondary ide device and an unused floppy drive
[02:51] <kazol> mc44: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] 
[02:51] <stammi> fiery_cleric, any idea how to find out which hardware?
[02:51] <mc44> zaggynl: there are some debs on the forums, but nothing official
[02:51] <sharperguy> crazy_bus, "sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager beryl-effects-unsupported"  (I'm pretty sure snow and rain are in unsupported), then run beryl-manager to switch to beryl
[02:52] <mohkohn> I found the answer through google. For anybody else dual/triple booting the iMac you need to make a windows xp SP 2 installation disk
[02:52] <zaggynl> mc44, hrm okay
[02:52] <crazy_bus> but the compiz website has rain and snow on it?
[02:52] <mc44> kazol: are you using the nvidia binary drivers?
[02:52] <mohkohn> my install disk was sp1.
[02:52] <mohkohn> TTFN
[02:52] <fiery_cleric> stammi: if the memory tested ok... maybe its the hard disk ... check for bad sectors using fsck ....
[02:52] <sharperguy> crazy_bus, ah right well I don't know about that
[02:52] <Vastlee> Sweet, turns out I didn't have to edit that file at all. I just had to do an auto adjust on my monitor. I'm at 1650X1060 yay. Thanks Samus
[02:53] <kazol> mc44: I'm not sure. How do I check?
[02:53] <Micieri> Brb.. gonna test the slow-burned 7.04 :P
[02:53] <uae> #
[02:53] <mc44> kazol: are you on using feisty?
[02:53] <kazol> mc44: yes.
[02:53] <stammi> thx fiery_cleric i'll try
[02:53] <mc44> kazol: System -> Admin -> Restricted Driver manager
[02:54] <Vastlee> Someone help me understand why when I maximize a window I can't click the X to close it?  I have to right click on the window at the bottom and click close.
[02:54] <kazol> mc44: yes, I see it in the window and it's in use.
[02:54] <kaolti> LjL: result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19266/
[02:54] <mc44> kazol: well you can use AIGLX. To turn compiz on just go into System->Preferences->Desktop effects
[02:55] <kazol> mc44: I cannot use desktop effects since the title bars of windows will disappear.
[02:55] <mc44> kazol: you tried?
[02:55] <Vastlee> Does that make any sense?  I open a window, while it isn't maximized I can click the X and it closes.  But if I maximize it when I click the X it just sort of fades and won't close.
[02:56] <ubuntu> witam all :)
[02:56] <kazol> mc44: I tried enabling desktop effects, but the title bars dissapeared, so I could not move the windows around. Other than that, it worked.
[02:56] <mc44> kazol: oh well ask in #ubuntu-effects for help witht that
[02:56] <LjL> kaolti, uhm, stupid question, you didn't have apt-get running or synaptic or something open when you ran that command?
[02:57] <deejay> I have a little problem with changing my screen resolution to above 1024*786, it is not in the drop down list when i enter the "Screen Resolution" screen, is there somewhere I need to edit to make a resolution like 1600*1200 available?
[02:57] <kazol> mc44: is there an alternative?
[02:57] <mc44> kazol: well you could try beryl
[02:57] <Carroarmato0> deejay, same issue here -.-
[02:57] <Vastlee> DeeJay, Samus just helped me.  I had to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <Vastlee> With that same problem
[02:57] <deejay> Ah hmm
[02:57] <kazol> mc44: other people have said they had stability problems.
[02:57] <kaolti> LjL: yea i thought its something like that too, but no
[02:57] <Vastlee> I had to look up the monitor settings in my manual, then do a sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <deejay> Looked there, should i just change the 1024*786 to something higher?
[02:58] <Blissex> deejay: Carroarmato0: yopu need to tell the configuration program what are the max parameters of your display device.
[02:58] <LjL> kaolti: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[02:58] <deejay> Hmm okay
[02:58] <kazol> mc44: how about compiz?
[02:58] <deejay> in xorg.conf ?
[02:58] <Vastlee> Then once I put my monitors info in and saved it and rebooted I was able to set it to 1650X1050
[02:58] <Vastlee> Yeah in the "Monitor Section"
[02:58] <mc44> kazol: ?
[02:58] <deejay> Thanks, will try it
[02:58] <Vastlee> I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu so you might check with someone more advanced, but it allowed me to do it.
[02:59] <kazol> mc44: It's some effects program that others have talked about that works in Feisty.
[02:59] <kaolti> LjL: returns nothing
[02:59] <mc44> kazol: yes I know, Desktop effects *is* compiz
[02:59] <kazol> mc44: great.... I'll try something else
[03:00] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, but is it possible to make the gnome reolution go to 1248x1024 while the monitor is just 1024x768?
[03:00] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: surely so, but that is called the ''virtual desktop'' size.
[03:00] <umbeebmu> Anyone else had problems with  wlan card after upgrade to 7.04 Feisty?
[03:00] <GrueTamer> umbeebmu: a lot of people have :)
[03:01] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: I am not sure that the GUI configuration program can handle a virtual desktop size larger than the monitor size.
[03:01] <GrueTamer> !wifi | umbeebmu
[03:01] <ubotu> umbeebmu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:01] <LjL> kaolti: that's wonderful. not. look try again the sudo sh thing just to make sure it wasn't a lock that's now gone. if it persists, try  sudo sh -c "strace -e trace=file sh -x /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat"    (beware, that will probably give a *long* output)
[03:01] <LjL> kaolti: err no wrong command
[03:01] <LjL> kaolti: i meant  sudo sh -c "strace -e trace=file sh -x  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libhesiod0.postinst" 
[03:02] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, I've tried different settings in the xorg file... but none have any effect.... I even tried the   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    comand and setting everything up but it still doens't work
[03:02] <cocoyote> I !! I have a problem with my Intel chipset GMA950 with ubuntu 7.04 ... when 3D is activ I can watch videos
[03:03] <GrueTamer> cocoyote: i assume that you mean you CANT watch videos, but, well, the 3D tech isnt nearly finished yet, its just in the early beta versions
[03:03] <delire> anyone here noticed distorted sound with the Last.fm client in Ubuntu 7.04? all other players seem to work fine - from video to jukebox's to sequencers.
[03:04] <sylpheedClaws> last.fm client?
[03:04] <GrueTamer> cocoyote: so, you just might have a problem like a lot of people do
[03:04] <sylpheedClaws> delire: get Last Exit
[03:04] <cocoyote> ok thanks
[03:04] <delire> sylpheedClaws: oh.. does that improve things?
[03:04] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: the virtual desktop size is set in the 'Display' subsection of the 'Screen' section with the keyword 'Virtual'. No odea how your GIU configuration program handles that.
[03:04] <sylpheedClaws> hopefully
[03:04] <kaolti> LjL: too much output :)
[03:05] <sylpheedClaws> and besides, if you listen to the right bands, you don't give a &*^% about distorted sound
[03:05] <delire> sylpheedClaws: i like my Merzbow clean ;)
[03:05] <LjL> kaolti, it pains my heart to say this, but i suspect rebooting might help
[03:05] <delire> hehe LjL
[03:05] <kaolti> LjL: lol
[03:06] <kaolti> LjL: kk brb then :)
[03:06] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, hmm... I'll try remaking an xorg.conf file with the normal screensize and then add my prefered size like you said...
[03:06] <sylpheedClaws> that was weird...
[03:06] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, do I need to activate the framebuffer support? I'm using an Ati card...
[03:06] <sylpheedClaws> my IceWM panl just randomly decided to die
[03:07] <sylpheedClaws> *panel
[03:07] <chedabob> Hi, im having a problem with the Gnome Panel. Could somebody read my post on the forum (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2596941&postcount=543) and help me?
[03:07] <sylpheedClaws> but it recovered ;)
[03:07] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, it works in both cases on or off, but not sure if it makes any clear difference...
[03:08] <mc44> LjL: quick, run away while hes gone!
[03:08] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: difference to what?
[03:08] <LjL> mc44: :-P no i really think a reboot might remove whatever awkward stale look he's got
[03:08] <LjL> lock
[03:08] <HotAsianGirl> <--- gives up trying to install Pidgin Messenger.
[03:08] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, with framebuffer on or off
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: whats the problem?
[03:08] <delire> HotAsianGirl: hey Kevin. wait until it's come out of beta.
[03:09] <sylpheedClaws> HotAsianGirl: use /me
[03:09] <sylpheedClaws> it's out of beta
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> delire: it is out of beta
[03:09] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ROFLAO
[03:09] <delire> IndyGunFreak: oh.. excellent
[03:09] <chedabob> haha
[03:09] <sylpheedClaws> just yesterday, Pidgin 2 final came out
[03:09] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hot asian girlz... there are no girlz on the interweb!
[03:09] <delire> sylpheedClaws: nice
[03:09] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: virtual desktop is a built in aspect of X11, not driver dependent usually.
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: are you trying to compile it?
[03:10] <HotAsianGirl> I don't see the link after installing it.  sudo dpkg -i pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.deb
[03:10] <chedabob> Couldn't you just type "pidgin" into the run command box?
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: i don't know, i downloaded the .deb package here, and it worked fine..    http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=57356
[03:10] <kraut> hi
[03:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> HotAsianGirl, just use meebo... www.meebo.com
[03:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[03:10] <umbeebmu> GrueTamer: I see the card with lspci, but /var/log/messages does not mention any driver being loaded, and iwconfig says: no wireless extensions
[03:10] <HotAsianGirl> I dont know how to compile, i just know how to copy and paste to download then copy and paste into the terminal screen to install.
[03:10] <UZUZZ> hello :) good friends
[03:10] <kraut> what else do i need to do when i load all modules wich sensors-detected to get sensors running?
[03:10] <kraut> it still says me, it can't detect any sensors
[03:11] <HotAsianGirl> is meebo alot better than GAIM? otherwise i'll just stick to GAIM.
[03:11] <GrueTamer> umbeebmu: hmm...
[03:11] <kraut> i don't like to reboot to let it working
[03:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> does anyone know where the easy bug reporting tool is located in feisty?
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: do you know how to download a file and double click it?  if so..   http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=57356
[03:11] <HotAsianGirl> okay i'll try that thanks indy.
[03:11] <GrueTamer> im not good with setting up wifi connections, as ive never needed to set one up myself, so...
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: i'd remove the current package you have installed... look in synaptic to be sure.
[03:12] <delire> HotAsianGirl: Peter, just wait until it's packaged for Ubuntu. that's probably your best bet.
[03:12] <niekie> Just wondering.. one can freely release art based on the Ubuntu logo, right?
[03:12] <niekie> (Just checking)
[03:12] <chedabob> I followed the instructions for making Ubuntu look and feel like a mac, and I know have the following error : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2596941&postcount=543 Does anybody have any idea how to fix it?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> delire: it is packaged.. geez
[03:12] <delire> IndyGunFreak: why then is he compiling it?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> delire: i don't know,
[03:12] <delire> odd
[03:12] <umbeebmu> GrueTamer: but do you know how a driver gets associated/loaded to a specific hw?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> its not n the repos yet, but you can download the .deb file.
[03:13] <delire> oh well, each to their own.
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> There's really not any difference in Pidgin and GAIM..
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> beta 6
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> not much anyways
[03:13] <delire> duly noted
[03:14] <void^_> chedabob: looks like you're trying to install packages that are meant for a newer ubuntu release than you're running
[03:14] <HotAsianGirl> hmm okay. i think i'll wait until ubuntu give the ok.  cause i've been trying to install it for the past 2 hours. i can live with GAIM in the meantime. thanks.
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: biggest thing, is if you use Icq, the annoying icq bug was fixed.
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> least thats the biggest thing i nticed
[03:15] <seif|> http://seif.hopto.org/screenshots/2007-05-01_screen.png
[03:15] <ljb2of3> Hi all, I'm having some problems with dual screens in X.  When I first boot up, I get the GDM login screen, which is working with dual screens working normally, but when I log in, the screen goes black then comes back with the monitors in mirror mode.  Seems that each session type has its own xorg.conf file... Anyone got any ideas what to look for?
[03:15] <Ichiro> hello everyone!
[03:15] <HotAsianGirl> oh okay, i guess i'll just use GAIM then. tq.
[03:15] <sharperguy> I'm having the same trouble as HotAsianGirl, gdebi isn't realising there are missind deps
[03:16] <sharperguy> I'm not sure where to get them because there not in the repos
[03:16] <cox377> does the alternative version of ubuntu come with the corex?
[03:16] <cox377> or the full version?
[03:16] <Ichiro> I'm having trouble when trying to install ubuntu in my slave drive, the screen shows some kind of error with a large number.
[03:16] <sharperguy> cox377, alternative verison is the same as the desktop, its just a different way to install
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> ljb2of3: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=534179        try that thread.
[03:17] <cox377> sharperguy: ahh i get yah,
[03:17] <teenbeat2007> question HELP ive upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 get my login as soon as i fill in my pasword en username the screen restart and im back at llogin help please
[03:17] <cox377> sharperguy: there are 2 versions of gnome arnt there? core and full?
[03:17] <Cypherix> I have a problem while installing, when I boot to the CD and choose Install, it start every thing up normally until the logo and the loading bar, it goes a few times back and forth, and than just stop, some thing called BusyBox comes up... I have a 64Bit system, Intel Core Duo 2. 2G DDRAM-2. and just one DVD drive.
[03:17] <sharperguy> cox377,  dont know
[03:17] <LjL> teenbeat2007: no idea, but first troubleshooting step imho would be to make sure you have the "ubuntu-desktop" package installed. so go to a console (hit Alt+F1) and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[03:17] <cox377> sharperguy: ok
[03:18] <ljb2of3> IndyGunFreak: will look there, thanks
[03:18] <Cypherix> Any one, please?
[03:19] <Ichiro> well, take care everyone. good luck with your problems.
[03:19] <LjL> cox377, alternate comes with exactly the same stuff as desktop, except it's not a Live CD.
[03:19] <AdministratorX> Good Morning from Marietta, GA
[03:19] <LjL> cox377: if you aim for less stuff and thus wouldn't mind a lighter download, try the minimal CD
[03:19] <LjL> !minimal > cox377    (cox377, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:20] <Elischa_> hi
[03:20] <sylpheedClaws> hi
[03:20] <Cypherix> any one came across my problem before?
[03:20] <Cypherix> I have a problem while installing, when I boot to the CD and choose Install, it start every thing up normally until the logo and the loading bar, it goes a few times back and forth, and than just stop, some thing called BusyBox comes up... I have a 64Bit system, Intel Core Duo 2. 2G DDRAM-2. and just one DVD drive.
[03:21] <pushpop_> Whats the channel for beryl?
[03:21] <sylpheedClaws> pushpop: #ubuntu-effects
[03:21] <LjL> !beryl > pushpop_    (pushpop_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> Cypherix: might try the alternate install CD...
[03:22] <Cypherix> IndyGunFreak: where can I download it from? I got the FREE cd package in the mail, a bunch of 32 and 64 bit Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Edubuntu... where can I download the Alternate CD?
[03:22] <cox377> LjL: mate that is tiny
[03:22] <cox377> 8.4mb
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> Cypherix: from Ubuntu.com
[03:23] <LjL> cox377: yup, but you can use it to get Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, a LAMP server, or other stuff i don't remember installed.
[03:23] <ifireball> I just tried activating window effects in faisty (I assume that's compiz) and now I don't have window borders any idea why is that?
[03:23] <d1c0> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:23] <eichi> hello, we want to install an ubuntu on a existing raiserFS partition..there is allready an /home/ dir
[03:23] <sylpheedClaws> ifireball: join #ubuntu-effects, they can help
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> Cypherix: its a text based installer, but its not as picky as the gui installer.. its still easy though
[03:23] <LjL> cox377: if you install the minimal set of packages, you can (if you want) then go on to install only the GNOME core using APT
[03:23] <eichi> put ubuntu wants to format is again...cant cancel this
[03:23] <edistar> when will pidgin be in the repos?
[03:23] <eichi> why?
[03:24] <Lord_Maynoth_42> isn't there some new easy bug reporting tool in feisty?  anyone know where it is?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: in due time i imagine,
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: i have a link to th deb file if you want it.
[03:24] <MenZa> Why isn't my drive mounting properly when I do sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external ?
[03:24] <d1c0> my ubuntu 7.04 don't have sound!!!
[03:24] <MenZa> !sound | d1c0
[03:24] <ubotu> d1c0: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:24] <sylpheedClaws> MenZa: use the -o rw and -t vfat switches
[03:24] <LjL> eichi, i don't think it is possible to avoid formatting the root partition, when using the Desktop CD.
[03:25] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: so -o rw and -t ntfs, if it's an NTFS/HFS+ drive?
[03:25] <edistar> I'd like the link
[03:25] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:25] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: I have ntfs-3g installed
[03:25] <MenZa> If I should use that
[03:25] <sylpheedClaws> that should work
[03:25] <cox377> LjL: yeh basically all i want is lamp with a gui
[03:25] <eichi> LjL: that su**s...
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> edistar:  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=573
[03:25] <sylpheedClaws> since it was external I thought it would be vfat
[03:25] <LjL> cox377: then get the minimal, really
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> workd fine for me
[03:25] <edistar> IndyGunFreak: thanks!
[03:25] <dinochopins> hi all
[03:25] <LjL> eichi: use the Alternate CD. and next time, put /home on a separate partition, it's a good idea anyway ;)
[03:26] <MenZa> so sylpheedClaws, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o rw -t ntfs
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: youmight want to uninstall gaim before installing it.
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> that caused an issue on my lapto
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> laptop
[03:26] <eichi> LjL: yes, but its to late now
[03:26] <edistar> are you sure its the right link?
[03:26] <dinochopins> after I updated the sources.list file, what command should I run to get the packages list ?
[03:26] <sylpheedClaws> MenZa: try it
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> i'm looking right at it.
[03:26] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: it doesn't work :)
[03:26] <edistar> ok
[03:26] <sharperguy> It seems to work ok for me with gaim still in, I just got rid of the icon
[03:26] <LjL> eichi: well i suppose you could still use a GParted live CD to rearrange the partitions
[03:26] <sharperguy> then again:
[03:26] <sharperguy> !worsforme
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worsforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <LjL> doesn't work for you
[03:26] <sharperguy> !wokrsforme
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wokrsforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <LjL> it really doesn't
[03:27] <sharperguy> !worksforme
[03:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:27] <tatters> Y is it when I copy to my usb thumbdrive the files appear but when I remove thumbdrive and view on other machine the directory appears empty
[03:27] <sylpheedClaws> :(
[03:27] <edistar> you left out 56 at the end, but I found it now, thanks
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: yeah.. it was fine on my desktop
[03:27] <edistar> I'll uninstall gaim now..
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> but on my laptop kept crashing till i removed gaim and restarted X
[03:27] <LjL> tatters: uhm, because you don't unmount it before unplugging it? :P
[03:27] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: Any ideas? I actually have an fstab entry for it, but it's dodgy and mounts only half the time
[03:27] <sylpheedClaws> tatters: are you unmounting it?
[03:27] <sharperguy> also uninstalling gaim will remove ubuntu-desktop also
[03:27] <tatters> unmount?
[03:27] <sylpheedClaws> MenZa: not a clue, what does the fstab entry say?
[03:27] <MenZa> sharperguy: lol
[03:28] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: two seconds
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> tatters: UNMOUNT THE DRIVE.
[03:28] <tatters> I use safly remove is that the same?
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:28] <MenZa> /dev/sdb1   /media/external   ntfs-3g   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: it doesn't remove the entire desktop
[03:28] <sharperguy> not that it matters but you need it for upgrading
[03:28] <doomby555> hello
[03:28] <doomby555> i have a question
[03:28] <MenZa> !hi | doomby555
[03:28] <ubotu> doomby555: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:28] <LjL> tatters: yeah unmount... you know, you can't just unplug a USB drive without giving the OS any notice. actually, that's quite likely to corrupt your drive (and even physically ruin a Flash drive)
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> doomby: why wouldn't you?
[03:28] <doomby555> so I downloaded the ATI Radeon 9250 driver for linux
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: do clean installs, its easier..lol
[03:28] <doomby555> it's a .run
[03:28] <LjL> tatters: right click on the drive's icon, and Eject/Unmount/Remove/ whatever it says (i'm not on Gnome)
[03:28] <feed> Hi, how cna i change the icon of a file?
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> aaand?
[03:28] <bullgard4> What is a 'kernel object file'?
[03:28] <doomby555> and i tried typing both ./blah blah blah and sh ./blah blah blah
[03:28] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, I havn't had trouble upgrading this from Dapper lol
[03:29] <feed> Hi, how can i change the icon of a file?
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> chmod 755
[03:29] <doomby555> but it gives my the following
[03:29] <MenZa> !repeat | feed
[03:29] <ubotu> feed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:29] <doomby555> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:29] <tatters> LjL: is it possible to turn of caching so I can remove without dismount
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> doomby555: use chmod 755 on it
[03:29] <doomby555> ok
[03:29] <doomby555> how? ;-)
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> it makes it executable
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: well, actually, neither have i... but when i had windows, first time i "upgraded" an OS, it was a terrible experience, from that point on, i only do clean installs
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> use teh terminal
[03:29] <doomby555> oh ok
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> how else
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> *the terminal
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: its a habit that followed me to linux
[03:29] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, Just dont do it the dist-upgrade way :P
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: ther's another way?
[03:30] <edistar> dist-upgrades allways crashed my systems so far..
[03:30] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, "gksu update-manager -d"
[03:30] <nuxil> !kickoff
[03:30] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[03:31] <SpaceBass> dist-upgrade worked for my 2 server installs
[03:31] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, is the reccomended way
[03:31] <nonix4> Umm, what was the other automatix-like tool again?
[03:31] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: Does anything appear to be wrong with that?
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: makes sense...
[03:31] <sylpheedClaws> nope
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> clean installs dont bother me though, i keep good backups
[03:31] <doomby555> i know
[03:31] <edistar> server upgrades usually work..
[03:31] <doomby555> i type in chmod 755
[03:31] <edistar> but desktops don't... backup before you try!
[03:31] <realcr> I used to be able to be in a higher resolution than 800X600 before listening to the Restricted driver manager and install some legacy nvidia thingy. How can I be in a higher resolution again?
[03:31] <doomby555> says Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[03:31] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, Yeah I have a separate home paritiotn anyways
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> anything is better than KDE...
[03:31] <nuxil> kickoff for feisty ?
[03:31] <edistar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <sylpheedClaws> doomby555: well....
[03:32] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, also I would end this convo or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[03:32] <doomby555> and i do that
[03:32] <edistar> to reset your resolution
[03:32] <sylpheedClaws> use chmod 755 FOLLOWED BY THE FILE
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:32] <MenZa> doomby555: chmod 755 ati-installer.sh
[03:32] <sylpheedClaws> sheesh
[03:32] <doomby555> OH!
[03:32] <doomby555> sorry
[03:32] <nuxil> IndyGunFreak, why is anything better than kde ?
[03:32] <doomby555> I'm a newbie....
[03:32] <LjL> tatters, no i don't think it's really possible. and it's a very bad idea anyway - with magnetic drives, it kills speed, and with flash drives, it'd kill the drive.
[03:32] <sylpheedClaws> I can see that
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> nuxil: i think KDE is an eyesore.
[03:32] <nuxil> lol...
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> how anyone uses it, i don't know.
[03:33] <sylpheedClaws> Indy: don't look at me, I use IceWM
[03:33] <ISaBuntu> whoah
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:33] <LjL> tatters: however i think there is a GNOME applet you can add to your panel to list all mounted external drives and allowing you to easily unmount them without hunting for icons. at least there is in KDE
[03:33] <nuxil> well we all have ower own oppinion :) and luclely we can chouse what wm|de we can use :)
[03:34] <MenZa> It's alright--we all make mistakesa t first :)
[03:34] <MenZa> mistakes at*
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> nuxil: i agree with that.
[03:34] <GrueTamer> yeah, nuxil's right, at least we're not limited to just one
[03:34] <edistar> pidgin works
[03:34] <edistar> :)
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> i like Gnome and xfce...
[03:34] <icecruncher> nuxil: I agree, KDE Roxs
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: i figured it would, it worked fine for me
[03:34] <tatters> LjL: ok thnx, I know thiis is possible in windows I always turn it off to prevent corruption cus I tend to just rip it out, Guess I need to relearn
[03:34] <MenZa> IndyGunFreak: same ;)
[03:34] <GrueTamer> i like most everything, but KDE is a little bloaty for me
[03:34] <edistar> bit I don't like the icons, can I get the beta ones back? ;)
[03:34] <AlexC_> Hey,
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> i'd rather get an enema than use KDE.
[03:34] <MenZa> !hi | AlexC_
[03:34] <ubotu> AlexC_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:34] <GrueTamer> hi AlexC_
[03:34] <sylpheedClaws> I hope Pidgin has better smilies...
[03:34] <ISaBuntu> GrueTamer: I agree with u
[03:34] <MenZa> !offtopic
[03:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:34] <MenZa> (Just a small notice)
[03:35] <AlexC_> How can I mount an EXT3 partition so that my user has read/write access to it?
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> the ones in GAIM need improvement
[03:35] <edistar> no, I don't like the smileys either..
[03:35] <LjL> tatters, i might be mistaken, but i think even in Windows, caching can only be reduced to a minimum, but not completely turned off (which means that if you unplug the drive too hastily, you might still get corruption). in any case, i agree it would probably be a good idea to make write caching less aggressive with external drives, but i think that's currently not possible
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> i don't even use smilies.
[03:35] <void^_> tatters: there's a sync mount option, but it's really not worth it
[03:35] <edistar> even worse actually in my opinion
[03:35] <doomby555> still gives me the ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution even though i ran chmod and the window in the properties says its executable
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> AlexC_: use mount -o rw -t ext3 /dev/hdxx /media/hdxx
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> doomby555: then it
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> 's an issue with the driver
[03:35] <doomby555> great......
[03:36] <LjL> doomby555: try changing the first line from "#!/bin/sh" to "#!/bin/bash" (but can't you just use the ATI drivers from the repositories instead?)
[03:36] <doomby555> just.... great......
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: cant you download smiley themes from gnome-look
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> i think you can
[03:36] <doomby555> repositories? i checked them
[03:36] <doomby555> I'll look again
[03:36] <LjL> !ati > doomby555    (doomby555, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:36] <LjL> doomby555: the proprietary ATI drivers *are* in the repositories.
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> wel, maybe not.
[03:36] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: ok, currently I have this in my /etc/fstab: "/dev/sdb1	/media/web-dev	ext3	defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1"  how would I put what you said, into the fstab? not really sure how it would go
[03:37] <edistar> I'll try to get other icons now ;)
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> xx, you should replace
[03:37] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: ah, change ro to rw?
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> that would be it
[03:37] <AlexC_> everything else is ok?
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> wait, no
[03:37] <ALL4N> hey, I just edited the partition table of my external drive using fdisk, but when I used 'w' I got a message that the kernel is still using the old partition table and that I need to reboot..  I thought Linux could handle these things without having to reboot.. heck even Windows can change partitions without reboot
[03:37] <Lilacor> hi everyone
[03:37] <AlexC_> hi
[03:37] <edistar> do you think gaim smileys will still work in pidgin?
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> just add ",rw" to the options
[03:38] <Lilacor> I'm having fits with vmware workstation 6 RC
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> as it is, it REMOUNTS read-only
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> on an error
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> that's good
[03:38] <LjL> ALL4N: well, it can't.
[03:38] <ISaBuntu> how the hell does that apt-get work
[03:38] <Lilacor> everytime I reboot, I have to reconfigure
[03:38] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: defaults,errors=remount-ro,rw correct?
[03:38] <LjL> !apt > ISaBuntu    (ISaBuntu, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:38] <Lilacor> does anyone else encounter this error?
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:38] <ISaBuntu> heh
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> that should do it
[03:38] <Fox_Mind> tu-sa
[03:38] <LjL> ISaBuntu: (no need for the language) - is anything specific you aren't clear about it?
[03:38] <ALL4N> LjL: so I really have to reboot to see the partition changes?
[03:39] <ISaBuntu> nice bot
[03:39] <LjL> ALL4N: yes
[03:39] <ALL4N> LjL: even if I disconnect it from USB and reconnect?
[03:39] <LjL> ALL4N: oh, if it's an external, maybe what you just said will work. actually, it most definitely should.
[03:39] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: nope, after unmounting and mounting again, I cant write to it
[03:39] <kazol> what's "configuration manager" for?
[03:39] <sylpheedClaws> dern
[03:39] <erUSUL> ALL4N: i think that being usb a plug-unplug cycle should suffice
[03:39] <AlexC_> !mount > AlexC_
[03:39] <sylpheedClaws> kazol: KDE or GNOME?
[03:40] <kazol> sylpheedClaws: gnome
[03:40] <ALL4N> okay, I'll try
[03:40] <linux_> hola
[03:40] <linux_> hi
[03:41] <sylpheedClaws> !hi > linux_
[03:41] <doomby555> yes, the repositories say that its for Radeon 9500's and above, I have a 9250
[03:41] <ISaBuntu> very nice bot.
[03:41] <sylpheedClaws> !thanks
[03:41] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:42] <blippe> msg ubotu hi
[03:42] <ISaBuntu> smart bot too
[03:42] <Jammeri> should I be able to run Beryl with Radeon 9800 Pro and opensource drivers?
[03:42] <sylpheedClaws> not really, it's a sock-puppet
[03:42] <Vastlee> Can someone tell me how I can take ownership of a file/drive?
[03:42] <AlexC_> Jammeri: best thing to do is try it and see
[03:42] <ISaBuntu> sudo
[03:42] <doomby555> Are Nvidia linux drivers open source?
[03:42] <MenZa> Vastlee: sudo chown user location, afair
[03:42] <AlexC_> doomby555: not the official nVidia drivers, no
[03:42] <GrueTamer> if theyre straight from nvidia, probably not
[03:42] <doomby555> hmm....
[03:42] <shadeofgrey> okay folks
[03:42] <sylpheedClaws> a polite sock-puppet...
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> !envy | doomby555
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <doomby555> becvause my PC only has PCI slots
[03:43] <Vastlee> I don't know what location,afair means.
[03:43] <doomby555> no AGP
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> hmm
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> no envy
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> gimp neeeds to get 7.04 running on macbookpro TODAY
[03:43] <Jammeri> AlexC_, Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed
[03:43] <xzero> jljlj
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> is it as easy as installing on regular pcs yet or what
[03:43] <Vastlee> I want to do an entire 250 gig drive.  When I switched from Windows I had a 250 gig drive that I now can't delete or anything.
[03:43] <Samuli^> vastlee: with chown
[03:43] <ALL4N> LjL: hmm..  it still says /dev/sda1 when I re-connect the drive, bah perhaps I really need to do reboot
[03:43] <mistermax> hello - I'm looking for help with my ATI X1300
[03:43] <doomby555> So I wonder if I could crawl by on an Nvidia 4800 or 5800
[03:43] <MenZa> Vastlee: sudo chown <yourusername> <directory>
[03:43] <MenZa> afair = As Far as I Recall
[03:43] <doomby555> mistermax check the repositories
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> I have a 5200FX, and it works fine
[03:44] <Vastlee> Ok, so for <directory> do I put sbb?  or /media?
[03:44] <mistermax> the fglrx driver blackscreens I'm afraid.
[03:44] <doomby555> oh
[03:44] <doomby555> did you check ATI.com?
[03:44] <Vastlee> I'm sorry, I'm probably not asking my question right.  I'm new, and apologize.
[03:44] <MenZa> Vastlee: depends which directory you want to take ownership of
[03:44] <ISaBuntu> i have to say that ubunto is pretty neat. it installed on my Dell Inspiron 6400 without any hustle and everything's working except the wireless. pretty amazing
[03:44] <sylpheedClaws> ATI.co for an NVidia? err...
[03:44] <sylpheedClaws> *.com
[03:44] <MenZa> Vastlee: Don't apologise--we were all new at one point or another :)
[03:44] <Vastlee> I want to take ownership of the entire drive.
[03:44] <ALL4N> Vastlee: you need to get your mount options right
[03:44] <mistermax> I wasn't actually in a hurry to upgrade to 7.10 but the ATI driver totalled my x n eft so I upgraded
[03:45] <AlexC_> ISaBuntu: It's ubuntu < u instead of an o
[03:45] <sylpheedClaws> !ndiswrapper | ISaBntu
[03:45] <ALL4N> Vastlee: is your drive ntfs?
[03:45] <ubotu> ISaBntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <ISaBuntu> Alex: there you see, i'm new to it ;) I've been working with FreeBSD upto now (servers mainly)
[03:45] <ISaBuntu> but for the desktop, this rocks
[03:45] <Vastlee> When I do Places - Computer it lists 3 things.  Home, Filesystem, and Disk.  The Disk is what I want to take ownership of.
[03:45] <AlexC_> ISaBuntu: sure does
[03:45] <Vastlee> Yes All4n it is.
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> ISaBuntu: NDisWrapper an get your wireless working
[03:46] <Vastlee> It was my disk from when I switched over from windows.
[03:46] <jsizzle> I just compiled a custom kernel, and my madwifi drivers are complaining I'm using wireless extensions v17 instead of v22 that it wants, how can I update my wireless extensions?
[03:46] <Jowi> hi all. does anyone know if mplayer package is compiled with fontconfig enabled?
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> it's a Linux wireless tools that turns Windows drivers into Linux drivers
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> syl: i'll try that after some other hints first
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> :)
[03:46] <ALL4N> Vastlee: not sure if you are using Feisty and whether feisty has ntfs write support at this point
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> ah windows drivers.. neeh :)
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> it takes a .inf file
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> hmm
[03:46] <AlexC_> how can I mount a separate ext3 partition that my user has write/read access to?
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> ok noted
[03:47] <Vastlee> I am using Feisty.
[03:47] <jsizzle> AlexC_: in fstab specify the user option for the partition
[03:47] <Vastlee> When I try to delete a file I can't because I don't have ownership of the file.
[03:47] <ALL4N> Vastlee: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite-support-made-easy-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[03:47] <AlexC_> jsizzle: could you explain more? I've never played around with the fstab file much
[03:47] <shadeofgrey> can someone please takje a minute and tell me how hard feisty is to install on macbookpro's?
[03:47] <ISaBuntu> vastlee: chmod / chown?
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> shadeofgrey: not too hard
[03:48] <Vastlee> I will try, thanks
[03:48] <deejay> Is there anyone who can recommend any MP3 players? I'm used to use Windows with Winamp :)
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> there was something in MacAddict about it
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> before they became Mac|Life
[03:48] <ISaBuntu> deejay: xmms
[03:48] <jsizzle> ubotu fstab | alexc_
[03:48] <ubotu> alexc_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:48] <l33tn00b> deejay: Audacious
[03:48] <shadeofgrey> sylpheedClaws, do i still have to create the partitions and install grub by hand?
[03:48] <mr_dd> deejay, try musikCube - http://musikCube.com
[03:48] <AlexC_> deejay: Audacious
[03:48] <deejay> Hmm okay :)
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> yes, an Ubuntu tutorial in a Mac magazine
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> shadeofgry: it's done automatically
[03:48] <unimatrix9> beep-mediaplayer supports winamp classic skins
[03:49] <cotton> can I see which hd ubuntu is installed on, the slave or master drive. From a terminal
[03:49] <jsizzle> anyone know how to update wireless extensions in feisty?
[03:49] <deejay> Gonna try Audacious first :)
[03:49] <sylpheedClaws> as for audio editing, Audacity is worth a shot
[03:49] <unimatrix9> lots of choice eh?  :P
[03:49] <lc_> in what packet i can find headers GTK ?
[03:49] <sylpheedClaws> not to be confused with Audacious, which is playback only
[03:49] <VJun> anyone know how to make other partition to be writeable ?
[03:50] <jsizzle> lc_: gtk?????-dev
[03:50] <jsizzle> lc_: apt-cache search gtk | grep dev
[03:50] <AlexC_> jsizzle: /dev/sdb1	/media/web-dev	ext3	defaults,errors=remount-ro,user 0 1 still does not work
[03:50] <deejay> Hmm does Audacious not suppport network directories? :|
[03:50] <Vastlee> "/media/dis...EVERB.ISO" cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk.
[03:51] <unimatrix9> Audacious , is that the xmms fork?
[03:51] <Vastlee> I tried sudo chown vastlee /media/disk/* but it just gave me a bunch of read only errors.
[03:51] <unimatrix9> looks like it...
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> yes it is
[03:51] <LjL> !compile > lc_    (lc_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:51] <AlexC_> deejay: you could try Rthymbox? I used to be a small-winamp type player person, but I've fallen in love with Rtyhmbox now :P
[03:51] <unimatrix9> i see
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> unimatrix9: it's the xmms/beep/X11amp work
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> *fork
[03:51] <FocusRite> Hi
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> gaah
[03:51] <FocusRite> Does anyone use LVM ?
[03:52] <deejay> AlexC_ yeah well, hmm all i need is it to support having a playlist and able to play mp3 coded music
[03:52] <ALL4N> Vastlee: did you try using the ntfs-3g thing?
[03:52] <unimatrix9> is it better , then beep-mediaplayer, or just different?
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> better
[03:52] <unimatrix9> hmmm...
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> I still use xmms...
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> xmms and Exaile
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> Exaile is 1337
[03:52] <jsizzle> ubotu !Partitions | alexc_
[03:52] <ubotu> alexc_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:52] <timmi> i want .m3u datatypes to open with xmms not with totem player, does somebody know how to do this?
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> !info exaile
[03:53] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[03:53] <jsizzle> ubotu !DiskMounter | alexc_
[03:53] <ubotu> alexc_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:53] <LjL> !default > timmi    (timmi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:53] <AlexC_> jsizzle: I've been through them all, it keeps taking me around in circles
[03:53] <unimatrix9> !mp3
[03:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:53] <Laney> np: Arcade Fire - Wake Up
[03:53] <shinygerbil> amarok is the win. but then, I'm a KDE user
[03:53] <Vastlee> Well... I went into [Applications - System Tools - NTFS-Configuration Tool]  but enable write support for internal devices is grey'ed out and enable write support for external devices is already checked.
[03:53] <unimatrix9> amarok is nice yes thats true
[03:53] <Vastlee> There wasn't anything else I could do.
[03:53] <sylpheedClaws> listening to NIN myself... The Good Soldier
[03:54] <tatters> anyone tried ext3cow on feisty?
[03:55] <Vastlee> When I go to the properties of the disk and look at the "permissions" tab it tells me that the owner is root and that I am not the owner and so I can't change the permissions.
[03:55] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[03:55] <tatters> Vastlee: is this drive NTFS?
[03:55] <MenZa> !hi
[03:55] <deejay> AlexC_, would it be difficult to make Rytmbox be able to play mp3? It tells me it doesnt support it :)
[03:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:55] <Vastlee> Yes Tatters it is.
[03:56] <rmd_> is there a kde prog for converting video formats?
[03:56] <AlexC_> deejay: just double click on an MP3 player, or open a mp3 file in anything other than rthymbox - and it will download the codecs
[03:56] <sylpheedClaws> deejay: install gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[03:56] <dinochopins> how to setup sources.list to my local cdrom.... as I have install ubuntu server from cd but when I update/install packages... they all go to archive.ubunt.com, though the packages already in the cdrom
[03:56] <ffm> I need to easily share my new Canon iP6700D printer on a network. It is currently connected to my Fiesty box and I have no idea how to make it so that my WinXP computers can use it.
[03:56] <AlexC_> you can then open Rtyhmbox back up, and it will play then, deejay
[03:56] <sylpheedClaws> or maybe it's just bad
[03:56] <tatters> Ok here is what I did took 5 mins and can read and write to NTFS http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-read-and-writable.html
[03:56] <shinygerbil> deejay: it's simple, you probably want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <unimatrix9> if you have feisty fawn...
[03:56] <dinochopins> !sources.list
[03:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:56] <deejay> AlexC_, ,well rythmbox wont play tthem becaose of some mp3 encode thing, but i'll figure out out :)
[03:56] <sylpheedClaws> !mp3
[03:56] <Laney> np: Arcade Fire - Wake Up
[03:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:56] <Vastlee> Ok Tatters, I'll read that and try.  Thanks
[03:57] <AlexC_> jsizzle: all of those guides explain how to mount windows paritions, I need to mount an EXT3 partition which my user can read/write
[03:57] <sylpheedClaws> np: Tool- "Track #1" (inside joke)
[03:57] <tatters> Vastlee: its V easy to follow works a treat ,ggood luck
[03:57] <Gary_> hi guys, i came in here for help, when i d/l ubuntu and burnt it and tried to run it it didnt work because i didnt know that i needed to make a bootable disk
[03:57] <Gary_> which i am doing now
[03:57] <sylpheedClaws> just burn the ISO directly
[03:57] <sylpheedClaws> !iso
[03:57] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:57] <Gary_> i tried that
[03:57] <Gary_> and it didnt work
[03:58] <tatters> !ext3cow
[03:58] <sylpheedClaws> dern bot
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext3cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <ffm> I need to easily share my new Canon iP6700D printer on a network. It is currently connected to my Fiesty box and I have no idea how to make it so that my WinXP computers can use it.
[03:58] <Gary_> the reason it didnt work was because my boot order was CD/DVD drive in first
[03:58] <Gary_> and HDD second
[03:58] <jrib> sylpheedClaws: try !burn
[03:58] <sylpheedClaws> !burn
[03:58] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:58] <Vastlee> I don't know what Dapper, Edgy, or GPG is, or which one I am running
[03:58] <Vastlee> Is there a way I can tell?
[03:59] <jrib> !version > Vastlee (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:59] <deejay> AlexC_, and i needed to install the codec :) - Well i guess i'm satisfied now, Music and Gaim, no need to use windows for now :)
[03:59] <jrib> Vastlee: GPG does not belong in that list
[03:59] <AlexC_> deejay: hehe cool =)
[03:59] <jrib> AlexC_: you just use chmod and chwon on the files in your mounted parititon, same as usual
[03:59] <sylpheedClaws> deejay: try Audacity before you make the switch for good
[03:59] <jrib> AlexC_: chown even
[03:59] <AlexC_> jrib: but will that take effect each bootup?
[04:00] <Vastlee> Trying to follow this guide, it says I do different things depending on which one of those I'm using.  I don't even know what that is.
[04:00] <AlexC_> or will I have to do chown every time I start my pc back up?
[04:00] <jrib> AlexC_: yes, ext3 stores permissions
[04:00] <deejay> sylpheedClaws, yeah well, it didnt wanna open a network location (on my server)
[04:00] <AlexC_> jrib: cool, thats ok
[04:00] <sylpheedClaws> Audacity, not Audacious
[04:00] <sylpheedClaws> Audacity is an audio editor ;)
[04:00] <AlexC_> jrib: so, sudo chown -R alex:alex /media/web-dev ?
[04:00] <Horscht> hi
[04:00] <jrib> AlexC_: sure, if you want that
[04:00] <jsizzle> AlexC_: read this webpage, specifically the third post they're talkin about vfat but just change vfat to ext3 and it should work. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=352552
[04:00] <deejay> sylpheedClaws,  and honestly, i dont care what i use - If it plays, its good :)
[04:01] <Horscht> what's a good GUI for mencoder?
[04:01] <Horscht> for gnome
[04:01] <ffm> HELP! Where is /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf on Fiesty?
[04:01] <solsTiCe> when i put some file on an crypted partition to the bin in nautilus, ithen ican't empty the bin with the icon at bootom right because it says bin empty !
[04:01] <mayorbuttes> ffm: right there.
[04:01] <mayorbuttes> ffm: That's the directory.
[04:01] <ffm> mayorbuttes, oh...
[04:02] <mayorbuttes> ffm: =)
[04:02] <Vastlee> Tatters: I'm using Fiesty, which isn't in that list of Ubuntu versions.  Which one should I use?
[04:02] <SpaceBass> solsTiCe, my guess is that which ever encryption fs you are using either moves it to the bin or deletes it instantly
[04:02] <Sergo> hello
[04:03] <sylpheedClaws> !hi
[04:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:03] <solsTiCe> SpaceBass: no. there is a Trash_something folder with the file in it
[04:03] <jsizzle> brb.. rebooting
[04:03] <ffm> mayorbuttes, No, its nto there.... /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or directory according to gedit, nautilus, and nano
[04:03] <solsTiCe>  .Trash-solstice
[04:03] <jochus> is there a way to extract an RPM on a Ubuntu machine? I need a certain file in it ...
[04:03] <sylpheedClaws> jochus: use Alien
[04:03] <sylpheedClaws> !alien
[04:03] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:04] <cow2001> is there a way to make an sshd accept connection from people who have the key AND the passphrase?
[04:04] <sylpheedClaws> !info alien
[04:04] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.65 (feisty), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[04:04] <jochus> ok, gonna install it
[04:04] <Sergo> how to set up my video card correctly ... cedega 3d acceleration pass faield
[04:04] <doomby555> how do I install .rpm packages with the terminal?
[04:04] <sylpheedClaws> Sergo: use Envy
[04:04] <Sergo> what is this?
[04:04] <AlexC_> doomby555: see few lines above about Alien
[04:04] <jochus> but, how to extract with alien? :p
[04:04] <sylpheedClaws> www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:04] <Sergo> Your graphics card does not appear to be setup correctly.
[04:04] <Sergo> Please check the documentation for your Linux distribution
[04:04] <Sergo> and your graphics card drivers to ensure proper installation.
[04:04] <ffm> mayorbuttes, No, its nto there.... /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or directory according to gedit, nautilus, and nano
[04:04] <AlexC_> !paste | Sergo
[04:04] <ubotu> Sergo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:05] <asherZ> hi
[04:05] <sylpheedClaws> Sergo: use Envy with the URL I mentioned
[04:05] <AlexC_> jochus: you conver the rpm to a .deb package
[04:05] <AlexC_> s/cover/convert
[04:05] <jochus> yes, and then?
[04:05] <sylpheedClaws> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html is Envy
[04:05] <jochus> how to unpack the .deb file?
[04:05] <AlexC_> jochus: simple double click on the .deb file
[04:05] <AlexC_> and it will install
[04:05] <dountby> heyho
[04:05] <AlexC_> hi
[04:05] <jochus> AlexC: I don't want to install it, I need a file in that RPM
[04:05] <Sergo> ok thanks
[04:06] <jochus> so I need to extract it ...
[04:06] <AlexC_> jochus: oh I see,
[04:06] <coldfire> french?
[04:06] <dountby> how do i find an additional ide-drive after i plugged it into the computer?
[04:06] <dountby> any ideas?
[04:06] <ffm> mayorbuttes, No, its nto there.... /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or directory according to gedit, nautilus, and nano
[04:07] <jochus> AlexC_: so you have an idea how to extract it? With dpkg or alien?
[04:07] <unimatrix9> dountby : open terminal
[04:07] <Sergo> sylpheedClaws the envy pack request me to insert Ubuntu 7.04 CD
[04:07] <Sergo> to do this?
[04:07] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[04:07] <dountby> unimatrix9: ok ...
[04:07] <Sergo> ok
[04:07] <shedman> does anyone know anything about configuring dual monitor?
[04:08] <LjL> !dualhead > shedman    (shedman, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:08] <sylpheedClaws> use xinerama
[04:08] <sylpheedClaws> ?
[04:08] <unimatrix9> dountby : type fdisk to see disk info ( be carefull )
[04:08] <dountby> unimatrix9: problem is: i dont know / cant find the device-name
[04:08] <Vastlee> I am trying to take ownership of an entire disk.  Currently it is set to read ownly and the owner shows root.  How do I do this please?  When I try to do a sudo chown on the disk it tells me I can't because it is a read only file system.
[04:08] <Horscht> Hi, I am looking for a linux alternative to VirtualDub
[04:09] <sylpheedClaws> Horscht: use Kino
[04:09] <shedman> I followed a guide on ubuntuforms to configure xinerama but only one monitor will come on
[04:09] <unimatrix9> dountby :ide?
[04:09] <Horscht> will try that one, sylpheedClaws
[04:09] <ffm> Help!  /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or dir, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP refrers to it. WHere is it on fiesty??????
[04:09] <joiningtheherd> if the disk is mounted read only, and was mounted by root, then you must unmount it and remount it as the user who will own it.
[04:09] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; type mount ( to see whats mounted right now )
[04:10] <dountby> unimatrix9: its an ide-drive plugged into an old raid-controller
[04:10] <LjL> !equivalents > Horscht    (Horscht, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:10] <Vastlee> Thank you Joining, could you tell me how I unmount and remount a drive?
[04:10] <dountby> unimatrix9: so it could also be sdX or something
[04:10] <RomanK> hi all
[04:10] <bulmer> Vastlee: is your accout member of the admin group?
[04:10] <Vastlee> Yes
[04:10] <RomanK> does anyone know if there's a "live-cd"-image for usb-sticks?
[04:10] <Vastlee> I'm the only account/user on this machine.
[04:11] <joiningtheherd> umount -l devicename/mountpoint
[04:11] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; what does mount tell you?
[04:11] <bulmer> Vastlee then get on as root
[04:11] <dountby> unimatrix9: mount only shows hda (my cdrom), hdb (forst ide - thats not it), sda (thats my sata-disk)
[04:11] <darkstar> does wine not have a gui?
[04:11] <joiningtheherd> where device name is a node like /dev/hda1
[04:11] <kazol> what's a good electronic CAD program for linux?
[04:11] <bulmer> Vastlee and learn to prefix your responses with a nick so it wont be missed
[04:11] <Vastlee> bulmer: Understood, thanks.
[04:12] <nyahbinghi> hey, I compiled a new kernel, how can I access restricted-manager now?
[04:12] <mc44> RomanK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[04:12] <dountby> unimatrix9: probably ubuntu didnt recognize the controller?
[04:12] <Sergo> i think i use ATI video card
[04:12] <Sergo> or Nvidia..
[04:12] <Sergo> :)
[04:12] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; it could be, but check dmesg and look at the data see if something has shown up there...
[04:13] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: bash: unmount: command not found
[04:13] <nyahbinghi> try umount
[04:13] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; dont paste it here....:)
[04:13] <Vastlee> nyahbinghi: Thanks, will try
[04:13] <bulmer> kazol thats too generic cad...um you can get a spice like simulator
[04:13] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric no!! pandora does not work more outside of US!!!
[04:13] <darkstar> anybody know how to use wine?
[04:13] <StoneNote> ffm Also set which TCP port that the printer system will accept connections on. In Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) and Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) add this line under the Network Options part of the file (somewhere around line 420), or in Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) add the following line to /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf: <-- since you're not in dapper, I'd add it to /etc/cups/cupsd.conf like it says
[04:13] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: you're going to have to run it as root.  Try: sudo umount -l devicename
[04:13] <dountby> unimatrix9: http://pastebin.ca/472321
[04:14] <Guest11549> no!! pandora does not work more outside of US!!!
[04:14] <l33tn00b> can anyone tell me if feisty contains 3d accelerated drivers for an intel 915 express?
[04:14] <sylpheedClaws> yes it does
[04:14] <sylpheedClaws> intel support is built in to X
[04:14] <Gary_> hey all, i have a quick question
[04:14] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Woot, ok I made progress.  The device is now umounted!
[04:14] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Ok now I should remount it?
[04:14] <dountby> unimatrix9: the drive that im talking of has 2gb size and is  raiserfs formatted
[04:14] <l33tn00b> sylpheedClaws: thanks
[04:15] <nyahbinghi> does someone with just some knowledge could help me about my ati drivers?
[04:15] <sid32> I need help over writting my applications.menu
[04:15] <sid32> I lost all my applications list
[04:15] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: How do I go about remounting it with myself as the new owner?
[04:15] <unimatrix9> ok
[04:15] <Sergo> sylpheedClaws it's seems my video card is not ATI or Nvidia..
[04:15] <Gary_> i made a Bootable DVD and restarted my computer, the DR-DOS thing all loaded up and it said recognixed USB and other stuff like that and it then brought me to a normal command prompt line, what is the next step?
[04:15] <Sergo> the video is "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller"
[04:16] <Gary_> i navigated to D:/ and i dont know how to load the ISO actually
[04:16] <rrdd> http://seif.hopto.org/screenshots/2007-04-03-003744_1280x1024_scrot.png
[04:16] <shriphani> guys cant one mount external harddrives in feisty ?
[04:16] <rrdd> test!
[04:16] <drK_avNgr> Ahoy, anyone know of any simple video editing programs?
[04:16] <Sergo> sylpheedClaws ??
[04:16] <drK_avNgr> Not Kino.
[04:16] <Sergo> what to do
[04:16] <jrib> Gary_: did you burn the .iso to the disc as data or did you burn the image?
[04:16] <ffm> StoneNote, thanks
[04:17] <sid32> any help getting my applications back? Its completely empty
[04:17] <bulmer> shriphani: external? how is it powered? what interface does it have to connect to your desktop pc?
[04:17] <sid32> alt f2 alacate doesnt work
[04:17] <shriphani> bulmer, usb
[04:17] <Gary_> i burnt the the iso as data first then i realised after getting help that i needed to make it bootable which i did
[04:17] <StoneNote> ffm, yw.
[04:17] <Vastlee> Can someone tell me how I mount a drive?
[04:17] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i would guess its sdb , but it does not show up like you said
[04:17] <Gary_> so i got a fresh disc made it bootable and then burnt the iso onto that
[04:17] <darkstar> Daeron, sorry, i picked a random person and you were it. do you by chance know where i can find instructions on how to use wine?
[04:17] <jrib> Gary_: what do you mean "made it bootable"?
[04:17] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: try to mount it as your user
[04:17] <bulmer> shriphani: usb drives are normally auto detected
[04:17] <ffm> StoneNote, but, now, after adding the printer in xp, i get a test page error when I try to print.
[04:18] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: I don't know how sir.
[04:18] <Gary_> in Nero, i made a Bootable DVD
[04:18] <shriphani> bulmer, not here.......
[04:18] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; you where talking its an raid controller, is it turned on in bios?
[04:18] <bimberi_> !wine | darkstar
[04:18] <ubotu> darkstar: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:18] <shriphani> !usb
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <stammi> fsck told me: *** FILESYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *** \n 19980/7946240 files (8.5% non-contigious), 6947733/15874228 blocks
[04:18] <bulmer> shriphani: external? how is it powered? <--- you have not answered this
[04:18] <Sergo> :(
[04:18] <stammi> does that mean it found ad locks?
[04:18] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i see that your disks also have lots of partitions...
[04:18] <stammi> bad blocks
[04:19] <joiningtheherd> mount -t filesystem devicename mountpoint.  where filesystem is the filesystem on the drive, device name is the '/dev' node, and mount point is where it will join the tree
[04:19] <ffm> StoneNote, but, now, after adding the printer in xp, i get a test page error when I try to print.
[04:19] <jrib> Gary_: ok, do you have a .iso for the cd or for the dvd?
[04:19] <Hamm_laptop> I'm reading a book trying to learn more about the terminal...   It says that using  "rmdir -rf <directory name>"      will remove a directory and all contents....but when i type that into my ubuntu terminal I get an error..  Can anyone help explain this\?
[04:19] <ffm> How can I tell if I am x86 or x64?
[04:19] <StoneNote> ffm, you did your restart?
[04:19] <StoneNote> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:19] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  might I suggest a thorough reading of 'man mount' ?
[04:19] <rajkosto> rm -rf will removes the dir !
[04:19] <Gary_> i am not sure but i burn the ISO i d/l from the site onto a bootable DVD
[04:20] <ffm> StoneNote, Yes.
[04:20] <shriphani> bulmer, i am new to this stuff...... what do you mean by how is this powered
[04:20] <dountby> unimatrix9: the raid-controller was just plugged in, because i hade no ide-port free
[04:20] <rajkosto> give me ubuntu!
[04:20] <Sergo> is there any driver to support my Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller in linux?
[04:20] <StoneNote> ffm, and you added the line to hosts on your windows machine?
[04:20] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: so an example might be: mount-t NTFS /dev/sdb1 /media/disk2   <---- Does that look right?
[04:20] <dountby> unimatrix9: at first i saw the bios-screen of the controller,
[04:20] <ZombieCross> Sergo, 915resolution is what you're looking for I believe.
[04:20] <jrib> Gary_: that's not correct.  You need to "burn image".  It's probably easier if you just follow the directions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#head-8718146d5b4304ebd1c8234826440128ae10518c .  And I don't know if burning the cd iso onto a dvd will work right or not
[04:20] <bulmer> shriphani: how do you expect an external device to get its power, batteries? solar cells? etc...
[04:20] <dountby> unimatrix9: but the computer hang
[04:20] <ffm> StoneNote, no, I used the ipaddress.
[04:21] <Hamm_laptop> hamm@hamm-laptop:~/Desktop/tower of nix/closet/spells$ rmdir -rf "fire proof box"
[04:21] <Hamm_laptop> rmdir: invalid option -- r
[04:21] <Hamm_laptop> Try `rmdir --help' for more information.
[04:21] <dountby> unimatrix9: then i used another pci-port for the controller
[04:21] <sid32> help?
[04:21] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: yes, but ntfs not NTFS linux is always CaSe sensitive
[04:21] <shriphani> bulmer, none of the kind
[04:21] <ffm> StoneNote, do i need xp to authenticate? how can I make the printer useable by all?
[04:21] <Sergo> ZombieCross don't understan
[04:21] <Vastlee> Phew, thanks
[04:21] <Sergo> d
[04:21] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i dont know what you need the disk for, but you would be better off to get an ide-to-usb , external drive case, and put the disk into that..then it would be an external usb drive
[04:21] <Sergo> can you give me  an url
[04:21] <jrib> Gary_: and if the size of the file is about 700mb then you have the cd iso
[04:21] <rajkosto> UBUNTU SERVAR
[04:21] <Gary_> right i do have that
[04:21] <bulmer> shriphani: then perhaps its not powered enuff with juice from usb port, you may need an external power source
[04:21] <StoneNote> ffm, I don't know.  I don't have a windows machine looking at a printer on a linux box.
[04:21] <dountby> unimatrix9: and the machine boots again, but im not sure, if the bios of the controller is really turned on
[04:22] <ffm> StoneNote, Thanks anyway.
[04:22] <joiningtheherd> rajkosto: please don't yell
[04:22] <shriphani> bulmer, it is what unimatrix9 described
[04:22] <ZombieCross> Sergo: By support, do you mean you need a resolution better than 1024x768?
[04:22] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; doing to much changing is for sure going to mess up the system
[04:22] <Gary_> but how does the site instructions differ from what i did? will it still bring me to the DR-BOOT thing?
[04:22] <bulmer> shriphani: i did not pay attention to what he said or she said
[04:22] <Sergo> ZombieCross: nope, i need 3D acceleration
[04:22] <ZombieCross> Hmm.
[04:22] <ZombieCross> I don't know about 3D acceleration for it.
[04:22] <Sergo> i found on intel.com an driver for linux for
[04:22] <tuskernini> how do i read a HLP file?
 dountby  ; i dont know what you need the disk for, but you would be better off to get an ide-to-usb , external drive case, and put the disk into that..then it would be an external usb drive
[04:22] <Sergo> -)
[04:22] <dountby> unimatrix9: that sounds good, but i have no time. the meaning of that all is to check the drive for errors
[04:22] <jrib> Gary_: no, DOS has nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:22] <Sergo> hope it's works
[04:23] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: I forgot to mention that the mount point needs to exist before you manualy mount to it.  'mkdir /media/disk2'
[04:23] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Ahh, ok will try that now
[04:23] <sid32> I got a complete empty applicatoins list
[04:23] <sid32> need help getting them back
[04:23] <sid32> anyone?
[04:23] <dountby> unimatrix9: the disk is an pqi flashdrive for an small itx industrial computer and it seems to make trouble
[04:23] <Nitrobass24> Anyone know if Beryl can be installed on a computer that has integrated intel video? All the instructions i find are using Nvidia
[04:23] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; then the wise thing is to unplug all other ide disks and use an live cd for testing the drive...and connect the ide drive to what you have in the pc!
[04:23] <dountby> unimatrix9: so i took it home to check it on the weekend
[04:24] <LjL> jrib: err, not sure that's exact. i don't really know (just heard), but apparently the standard for booting CDs would involve emulating the booting from a floppy, using a DOS variant. and apparently other people came here in the past complaining their Ubuntu CD would dump them to a DOS prompt.
[04:24] <ZombieCross> Sergo: Try this--run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg
[04:24] <bulmer> Vastlee fyi, you can mount it to any existing directory, if current dir has data on it, it will be hidden
[04:24] <ZombieCross> And choose the i810 driver for your card.
[04:24] <dountby> unimatrix9: thats a good point  - i could try knoppix
[04:24] <ZombieCross> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-97317.html
[04:24] <Gary_> ok i will follow the instructions you gave me there jrib
[04:24] <jrib> LjL: erm ok :)
[04:24] <ZombieCross> Look down for a post by tokyovigilante I think is the nick.
[04:25] <dountby> unimatrix9: but probably you have an idea how to fix the "fisrst" problem - may i tell you?
[04:25] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; you could use knoppix, or ubuntu , as it does live cd too, i think there are linux distros for testing deeper too...
[04:25] <tuskernini> How can I read a WINDOWS .HLP file in ubuntu?
[04:25] <unimatrix9> install chm reader
[04:26] <unimatrix9> use synaptic
[04:26] <Nitrobass24> Anyone know if Beryl can be installed on a computer that has integrated intel video? All the instructions i find are using Nvidia
[04:26] <tuskernini> unimatrix9: i think chm does not support .hlp files.. i read it on the forums
[04:26] <Gary_> jrib these instructions are a lot easier to understand
[04:26] <Horscht> sylpheedClaws, importing avi files into kino seems to take quite a long time
[04:26] <joiningtheherd> Nitro: Beryl works well with most Intel GFX accelerators
[04:26] <rajkosto> i are not have ubuntuuu !
[04:26] <tuskernini> unimatrix9: only html help files .chm
[04:26] <sid32> no?
[04:26] <jrib> Gary_: great
[04:26] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; becuase the drive does not show up, there is not much we can do
[04:27] <Nitrobass24> ok i have installed beryl but i cannot seem to get the splash screen to come up
[04:27] <joiningtheherd> Nirto: it's really a matter of getting AIGLX or XGL running, and beryl will slip over top nicely
[04:27] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: I mounted it, but it said I do not have permission to view the contents under d2 (which is what I named the folder)
[04:27] <Nitrobass24> ok
[04:27] <sid32> no body else lost their applications list before?
[04:27] <Nitrobass24> thankyou
[04:27] <dountby> unimatrix9: the reason i think the drive could be broken is i have a little os installed and suddenly tere occure segmentation faults when i try to start normal programs like vi or less
[04:27] <Sergo> where can i past
[04:28] <SlimG> When a device (USB wireless G) doesn't show up in the lspci list, can I safely conclude that there's no connection between the device and the computer? (that the device might be broken/cable is defect/USB port is damaged etc. etc.)
[04:28] <vox754> latest stable ndiswrapper is 1.43, get it from source
[04:28] <dountby> unimatrix9: the i reboot and everything is ok again
[04:28] <Gary_> ok so jrib talk be thru what happens after this burn?
[04:28] <dountby> unimatrix9: do you think this could be a drive-error?
[04:28] <jrib> Gary_: just reboot with the cd in your drive
[04:28] <kazol> how do I insert buttons into the OpenOffice toolbar?
[04:28] <Gary_> is that all ? ok
[04:28] <jrib> Gary_: as long as your computer is set to boot from the cd drive first, yes
[04:29] <Gary_> it was always set as boot from cd first
[04:29] <Gary_> lol
[04:29] <dountby> unimatrix9: is it possible that raiser corrects itself at boot-time and i dont see a message of it in messages?
[04:29] <Vastlee> Please tell me I didn't just make 200 gigs worth of data useless...
[04:29] <joiningtheherd> Vastlee:  run mount with no options to check to make sure the disk is mounted where you think it is.  then if it is run 'ls -l /media' to see who owns it and the permissions
[04:29] <automat> well, i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask (i'd just consult evolution help, but it doesn't work in feisty), but does anyone know if it's possible to set separate inboxes for each evolution account.  i'm sure it's simple, but i can't find it anywhere.
[04:29] <sid32> anyone?
[04:29] <Gary_> when i get a better grasp of Ubuntu, i will probably look back and laugh at this when i figure out what i did wron
[04:29] <Gary_> lol
[04:29] <unimatrix9> tuskernini - read here about the help files ( i hope it helps you ) http://www.herdsoft.com/linux/themen/hlp_to_chm.html
[04:29] <Gary_> now i have a few queries about GNOME
[04:30] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: It says /dev/sdb1 on /media/d2 type ntfs (rw)
[04:30] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  I assure you the data are still there.  We just need to get the drive working
[04:30] <Gary_> i understand you can have sticky notes and such on your desktop
[04:30] <Sergo> where can i past large text?
[04:30] <mc44> !paste | Sergo
[04:30] <ubotu> Sergo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:30] <shriphani> bulmer, can you tell me how to list info about an external hd...... like its filesystem and so on ?
[04:30] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: good , not what are the permissions?
[04:30] <Sergo> thanks
[04:30] <aidan> Gary_: Accessories -> Tomboy Notes
[04:30] <Nag> Sergo,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:30] <Nag> yeah, already said that
[04:30] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: not-> now
[04:30] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; paste bin dmesg output
[04:30] <bulmer> shriphani: man df and man du
[04:31] <Gary_> and what about things like Windows integretion
[04:31] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: dr-x------ 1 root root 53248 2007-04-28 09:59 d2
[04:31] <Vastlee> Whatever that means
[04:31] <shriphani> bulmer, btw if this helps.......... i this external hd worked on edgy
[04:31] <aidan> Gary_: ubuntu can read and write to windows formatted partitions, what else do you want?
[04:31] <sid32> I need help on over writting my applications.menu
[04:31] <sid32> I keep getting permission denied
[04:31] <Gary_> and getting programs like Windows Live Messenger and yahoo Messenger and Paltalk for Linux?
[04:31] <Sergo> i want to try to install driver for my video card, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19280/ (here is aditional information on packet)
[04:31] <Sergo> will work this on ubuntu? :\
[04:32] <cfm76> hello everyone
[04:32] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: so we se that the drive is owned by root, and has no permissins for anyone else
[04:32] <unimatrix9> Gary_ all you want...
[04:32] <unimatrix9> :P
[04:32] <Gary_> ?
[04:32] <bimberi> SlimG: usb devices don't show up in 'lspci'.  try 'lsusb'
[04:32] <aidan> Gary_: you're going to start annoying people if you want to sit in here and ask questions that have been answered in a million different places on the internet
[04:32] <bulmer> shriphani: but sometimes maybe the usb driver didnt have enuff juice for the port? i am not 100% sure..you follow?
[04:32] <mc44> Sergo: which video card?
[04:32] <cfm76> Im fairly new to linux, I am using apt-get.  Is there a way to get a list of my installed applications?
[04:32] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Ok, how do I add myself on with permission to see/edit it?
[04:33] <Gary_> but thats what this channel is for isnt it?
[04:33] <Kurt|kr> hi
[04:33] <bulmer> cfm76: dpkg -l
[04:33] <Gary_> helping people
[04:33] <Sergo> mc44: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[04:33] <aidan> Gary_: almost all the programs you use on windows have ubuntu equivalents.
[04:33] <aidan> Gary_: Yes, it's for helping people
[04:33] <cfm76> bulmer, thanks a bunch
[04:33] <shriphani> bulmer, i do
[04:33] <Gary_> oh
[04:33] <aidan> Gary_: you're not asking for help
[04:33] <shriphani> bulmer, would it aid if i rebooted ?
[04:33] <dinochopins> !partition
[04:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:33] <bulmer> shriphani: so make sure it has enuff power to it
[04:33] <Gary_> thats great to hear, all i wanted to know was how to get access to my MSN Messenger and Yahoo messenger on Ubuntu
[04:34] <shriphani> bulmer, i have googled on how to supply power to it
[04:34] <bulmer> shriphani: you can try..
[04:34] <slim> there is a progam calle daMSN
[04:34] <aidan> Gary_: There's half a dozen clients that you could use, I use Gaim for both
[04:34] <bimberi> Gary_: yes it's for helping people, but it's always good for helper to see that someone has had a bit of a try at helping themselves first :)
[04:34] <mc44> Sergo: your driver should already be installed
[04:34] <slim> aMSN*
[04:34] <shriphani> okie brb
[04:34] <unimatrix9> cfm76 use synaptic to get an list of installed programs, it gives you an clearer view
[04:34] <peepsalot> Gary_, use a program called gaim, now known ad pidgin
[04:34] <vox754> !gaim | Gary_
[04:34] <ubotu> Gary_: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[04:34] <Nag> does anybody know if mplayer can deal with playlists?
[04:34] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  if nothing on the drive must be blocked from other users (ie public data) you can just try 'sudo chmod -R g+rw /media/d2' 'sudo chmod -R a+rw /media/d2'
[04:34] <slim> yes mplayer can
[04:34] <dountby> unimatrix9:  http://pastebin.ca/472348, but THIS is not the system that boots from the disk im talking of.
[04:34] <Nag> it loads them, but i don't know how to visualize the playlist or goto a different song etc.
[04:34] <unimatrix9> yes mplayer can play playlists
[04:34] <Sergo> mc44: yes, but it is installed not properly, the 3d accleretation that cedega want to pass were faield
[04:34] <Nag> yes, i know it can play them, but ...
[04:35] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; reading it...
[04:35] <Horscht> it's Pidgin, not gaim
[04:35] <dountby> unimatrix9: as i said - i took the drive from work to check it
[04:35] <Sergo> ?
[04:35] <vox754> !pidgin
[04:35] <linuxor> Hi, my ubuntu7.04 doesn't reconize my nokia n70, i've also used kmobiletools, how do I solve it ?? please>
[04:35] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
[04:35] <slim> does any1 know a good channel for novice pogrammers?
[04:35] <Sergo> and i can run the games
[04:35] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: those are two separate commands. The idea is to just get you read permissions at least
[04:35] <Sergo> can't
[04:35] <wepeel> hi all. ok, I just installed 7.04 on a friend's computer and he's been e-mailing me about a network connection problem. Basically, the network failed to connect after a reboot. Unchecking and then checking the radio button for a wired connection under the network icon failed to work, but "dhclient eth0" did work. He can now type that in when he has problems...but what's the fix to stop this from happenning in the first place?
[04:35] <Sergo> all the time didn't know what the problem
[04:35] <ZombieCross> Blargh the lack of a rolling release bugs me.
[04:35] <vox754> slim, #ubuntu-programming has interesting discussions... sometimes
[04:36] <mrmonday> I followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419709
[04:36] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Understood, running them now.  But I think it's telling me I can't do it cause after each thing it's saying "Read-only file system"
[04:36] <slim> ok thanx alot
[04:36] <peepsalot> !raid > peepsalot
[04:36] <mrmonday> >	but I can't connect to my network
[04:37] <eternal_p> good morning all...I am wondering if anyone knows of an application like Google Desktop Sidebar for ubuntu?
[04:37] <Sergo> mc44: maybe the driver is already instaled , maybe it;s not configured yet properly?
[04:37] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Couldn't change the permissions of "d2" because it is on a read-only disk
[04:37] <Sergo> to support 3d-acceleration ?
[04:37] <Sergo> in xorg.conf?
[04:38] <weswh-work> I am trying to make sure that I am running ktorrent 2.1.4, when I click 'about ktorrent', it just says 2.1 (running Feisty). I downloaded the 2.1.4 .deb for Feistyt from the KTorrent site, and when I installed it, it said it was downgrading, and the update manager popped up and said it had a more recent version of ktorrent
[04:38] <mc44> Sergo: I have never used intel so I dont know sorry.
[04:38] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: the output of mount belies that it is read/write -- the (rw)  at the end of the appropriate mount line
[04:38] <weswh-work> yet, I can't even tell which version is in the ubuntu repo, aside from "2.1" - any ideas?
[04:38] <hashbangfoo> anyone tried out Ingo Molnar's scheduler patch on their Feisty install?
[04:39] <eternal_p> pfelicity: I can't seem to PM you...
[04:39] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: No idea what you mean.  I ran both of those commands you told me but nothing has changed.  It keeps acting like the disk is Read only
[04:39] <|ericsson|> eternal_p: to prevent spam
[04:39] <SpaceBass> I'm just playing with feisty on the desktop for the first time seriously.... I've been using server for quite a while...I'm not used to all this GUI goodness!
[04:39] <bimberi> weswh-work: 'apt-cache policy ktorrent'
[04:39] <eternal_p>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[04:40] <eternal_p>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[04:40] <sid32> how do I find appliations.menu for one user from root?
[04:40] <eternal_p> lnice
[04:40] <pfelicity> eternal_p: you have to register first. - There aren't many widget-like desktop interfaces that I have found to be much use, but you may check adesklets or gdesklets
[04:40] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: run 'mount | grep  sdb' and post the entire output. please ... it is possible that the drive is mounted twice
[04:40] <eternal_p> pfelicty: I've tried that, but I cannot find a multi-feed desktop based RSS ticker :(
[04:40] <Rprp> 
[04:40] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: mount | grep sdb
[04:40] <Vastlee> Whoops, one sec
[04:41] <flyingyellowpig> hi
[04:41] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: /dev/sdb1 on /media/d2 type ntfs (rw)
[04:41] <Vastlee> That was the entire output
[04:41] <pfelicity> eternal_P: I'm not sure, I haven't seen one of those myself, sorry
[04:41] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: good you see how it says (rw) at the end?
[04:41] <Vastlee> I do
[04:41] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; took some time reading it..
[04:41] <void_> does anyone know how to install mesaGLUT (i have tried freeGlut)
[04:42] <eternal_p> pfelicity: no worries, thanks
[04:42] <findeton> hi
[04:42] <joiningtheherd> is there an entry for this disk in /etc/fstab?
[04:42] <flyingyellowpig>  #ubuntu
[04:42] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: But I don't know what it means or how to change it so that I can see the contents and what not.
[04:42] <eternal_p> pfelicity: I find one called gnusticker, but after I compile it, I get a very odd error
[04:42] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; fdisk /dev/sdb1  , what does it give?
[04:42] <RYUTAZA> Hi all
[04:42] <flyingyellowpig> I would like to know which is better Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:43] <flyingyellowpig> I am a noob on Linux
[04:43] <bimberi> !better
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <bimberi> hm
[04:43] <Micieri> Ok this is really starting to piss me off.. ---
[04:43] <Micieri> -_-
[04:43] <weswh-work> flyingyellowpig: what about Xubuntu? :P
[04:44] <bimberi> ah ha
[04:44] <bimberi> !best
[04:44] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:44] <findeton> i i just upgraded to feisty, and the problem is that i have an ati radeon 9250 and my fglrx drivers don't appear to work (i can't start Xorg, the error is "No devices found"), but i've been able to start xorg when i substitute Driver "fglrx" with Driver "ati". What can i do to make fglrx work? I've been reading tutorials on the forums and so on but no one has worked
[04:44] <GrueTamer> flyingyellowpig: well, lets see
[04:44] <flyingyellowpig> sorry i am just trying to install one of them on my laptop
[04:44] <gary_nz> hello all
[04:44] <gary_nz> this is garyagain
[04:44] <pfelicity> eternal_p: seems like your not the only one (looking at ubuntu forums)
[04:44] <gary_nz> i have installed ubuntu
[04:44] <gary_nz> and its flippin fantastic
[04:44] <GrueTamer> cool :)
[04:44] <Micieri> I've using 5 CD's, and 2 DVD's now.. Ubuntu is -not- installing
[04:45] <nonlinear> can anyone help me with boot probs?
[04:45] <gary_nz> i went to the install thing and i didnt know what its exactly for
[04:45] <dountby> unimatrix9: Unable to open /dev/sdb1
[04:45] <gary_nz> but now its stuck
[04:45] <vox754> flyingyellowpig, go for Ubuntu
[04:45] <Micieri> I have boot problems nonlinear
[04:45] <GrueTamer> flyingyellowpig: if you want speed, xubuntu is nice, if you want a windows like interface only, kubuntu is nice, but ubuntu is in the middle and has gnome, which is MY favorite desktop environment
[04:45] <sid32> can anyone send my their applications menu file?
[04:45] <gary_nz> and it wont quit the application
[04:45] <GrueTamer> i recommend ubuntu to start
[04:45] <flyingyellowpig> I have a HP Omnibook XE4100
[04:45] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: What does it mean?  The rw means readable & writable right?
[04:45] <sid32> I crashed and lost it all
[04:45] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[04:45] <GrueTamer> flyingyellowpig: if your specs are good you can prolly go for any of them
[04:45] <Micieri> re-writable
[04:45] <dountby> unimatrix9: i tried already all sda-h and hda-h drives
[04:45] <dinochopins> how can I set my packages sources back to my cd again ?
[04:45] <wepeel> how do I set a command to run at startup? Especially if it requires root access and I do't want to enter in a password?
[04:45] <GrueTamer> but if theyre not, then rule out kubuntu and use either ubuntu or xubuntu
[04:46] <xxtreme> can someone help me setup fetchmail?with a gmail account?
[04:46] <mrmonday> no one know what I can do?
[04:46] <eternal_p> wepeel: system, prefrenses, sessions
[04:46] <dinochopins> as... everytime I install the base package.. it goes to Internet ?
[04:46] <Hamm_laptop> if I edit a file with   "less"   in terminal....how do i exit that program?
[04:46] <gary_nz> can anyone tell me why the install thing is frozen please
[04:46] <gary_nz> it wont quit
[04:46] <gary_nz> when i select quit
[04:46] <wepeel> eternal_p: so in the startup programs, can I run terminal commands?
[04:46] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  correct, read only is  (ro)  if this disk has an entry in fstab that entry may be worded such that the effective permission is read only
[04:46] <gary_nz> it just stays there
[04:46] <gary_nz> doing nothing
[04:46] <eternal_p> gary_nz: the ubuntu installation?
[04:46] <bulmer> wepeel look into using /etc/init.d/Kxx
[04:46] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i dont think i can further help, try to ask again, maybe there is some other who will know...( i am lost here , in this problem )
[04:46] <findeton> i i just upgraded to feisty, and the problem is that i have an ati radeon 9250 and my fglrx drivers don't appear to work (i can't start Xorg, the error is "No devices found"), but i've been able to start xorg when i substitute Driver "fglrx" with Driver "ati". What can i do to make fglrx work? I've been reading tutorials on the forums and so on but no one has worked
[04:46] <eternal_p> wepeel: that is now I do my keyring fix for network-manager
[04:46] <gary_nz> no, ubuntu has loaded
[04:46] <findeton> !
[04:46] <bulmer> wepeel look into using /etc/init.d/Sxx    S for start, K for kill
[04:47] <gary_nz> the install thing on the desktop i mean
[04:47] <flyingyellowpig> so i just i want to know if it will run well,I am using Ubuntu in a very old desktop pc and it is work better then Microsoft
[04:47] <eternal_p> gary_nz: what kind of gfx card do you have?
[04:47] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Again you're talking over my level of technical competency.  Either way, what would be the next step to making this capable of being read and edited?
[04:47] <vox754> !forums | flyingyellowpig search the forums for your hardware, chances are that you'll find information about how it works with Ubuntu
[04:47] <ubotu> flyingyellowpig search the forums for your hardware, chances are that you'll find information about how it works with Ubuntu: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[04:47] <Micieri> !boot
[04:47] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:47] <dinochopins> i check on my sources.list, and find "deb cdrom :...."
[04:47] <gary_nz> nVidia Go 6600
[04:47] <weswh-work> bimberi: So looking at this Ktorrent install, it says version: 2.1-0ubuntu2, that would seem to me to be less than 2.1.4 - but why would the system think it's a downgrade?
[04:47] <dinochopins> then I have my cdrom mounted on /media/cdrom0
[04:47] <Micieri> !grub
[04:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:47] <SlimG> When a device (USB wireless G) doesn't show up in the lspci list, can I safely conclude that there's no connection between the device and the computer? (that the device might be broken/cable is defect/USB port is damaged etc. etc.)
[04:47] <pfelicity> eternal_p: have you tried Liferea?
[04:47] <dountby> unimatrix9: thank you anyway. i try plugging everything out and using a bootcd.
[04:48] <eternal_p> gary_nz: same card as mine, i'm not too sure then why the live CD is crapping out on oyu
[04:48] <flyingyellowpig> and i am willing to get ride of Microsoft
[04:48] <dountby> bye
[04:48] <eternal_p> pfelicity: it is a seperate program,no/
[04:48] <eternal_p> ?
[04:48] <void^> SlimG: lsusb for usb devices
[04:48] <dinochopins> but Ubuntu doesn't install from my cdrom .. what's wrong ?
[04:48] <wepeel> eternal_p: so there I'd be able to enter dhclient eth0 as a startup command?
[04:48] <Hamm_laptop> can anyone redirect me to a room where i can ask  Terminal related questions?"
[04:48] <etioso> salve
[04:48] <gary_nz> it went up to the parition thing and asked me how much i wanted to partition
[04:48] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: well, ntfs write capability has historically been touch under linux.  read capability is just a matter of mount permissions
[04:48] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; if you cant solve a problem , try to go around it ....
[04:48] <gary_nz> and before i went forward
[04:48] <gary_nz> i wanted to quit
[04:48] <etioso> ho ho bisogno di un aiuto, chi me lo pu dare?
[04:48] <wepeel> bulmer: Sorry, I don't wuite understand...make a file calle Sxx and then put my commands in it?
[04:48] <gary_nz> but now its stuck
[04:48] <eternal_p> wepeel: yup, but why would you want to? why not use network manager or wcid?
[04:49] <pfelicity> eternal_p: oh, it said desktop, hmm
[04:49] <SlimG> thanks void^ !
[04:49] <wepeel> eternal_p: network manager isn't working. See my post waaaay up there. Basically connection isn't on after reboot
[04:49] <eternal_p> gary_nz: if it did not make the partition changes, you should be able to reboot and start over, but no warranty there :)
[04:49] <eternal_p> wepeel:a lot of people get that, I would try wicd before doing manual commands
[04:49] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  I would google for 'linux mount ntfs partition' it comes up with some pretty nice tutorials, and how-to's as well as good explanations of how this idea works
[04:49] <wepeel> eternal_p: and unchecking and rechecking the radio button under the network icon doesn't work
[04:49] <eternal_p> wepeel: network-manager only started working for me recently, for some random reason
[04:49] <wepeel> eternal_p: wicd?
[04:49] <gybbo> f
[04:50] <vox754> Hamm_laptop, it is better if you just ask your question, you won't find a dedicated channel for every specific thing, look here maybe http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[04:50] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Ok.  But before I unmounted this drive I could at least see the files.  I couldn't delete them, but I could see them.  Now I can't even see them.  The data is there because when you had me run those 2 commands it was attempting to preform actions on all of the files.  Yet, I still cannot see them.
[04:50] <Muxec> Hi.
[04:50] <eternal_p> wepeel: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[04:50] <Muxec> What about Ubuntu Home Server? What do you want to see on it?
[04:50] <bulmer> wepeel  yeah thats the idea, you put it in a script and put them in /etc/init.d/Sxx   go see whats there now
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig> The Hardware:
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Processor: 1,13 oder 1,2GHz Intel Celeron
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Chipset: VIA
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Graphiccard: Via Twister (Savage)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Network: VIA 10/100MBit (VIA VT6102 Rhine-II)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Sound: VIA (VIA VT82C686)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Memory: SDRAM PC133 (SODIMM) 128-1024MB
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Harddisk: 30GB EIDE UDMA100 (HDA)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Floppy: 3,5" 1,44MB (FD0)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  optical Drive: DVD oder DVD/CDRW Combo (HDC)
[04:50] <vox754> !ops
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Ports: 1xCOM, 1xLPT, 2xUSB, 1xPS/2
[04:50] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Modem: 56k V90 (VIA VT 8501 MVP4)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  PCMCIA: o2 micro
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Touchpad: Synaptics
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Display: 14" 1024x786
[04:50] <eternal_p> wepeel: I would be using his program if it supported pptp, that is the only thing that keeps me with network-manager
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  And as wireless network i use 3Com(r) OfficeConnect(r) Wireless 11g
[04:51] <jrib> bah
[04:51] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: 'sudo ls -al /media/d2' will get you a list of your files
[04:51] <hellcattrav> hello
[04:51] <vox754> jrib, no need to ban
[04:51] <wepeel> bulmer: nothing's in there now...
[04:51] <LjL> it wasn't a ban
[04:51] <mandy> hey guys , does anyone knows why everything works fine under recovery mode (beryl , gnome , sound , ...) while my screen freezes with my radeon driver using beryl and gnome doesnt start untill i kill esd on normal mode... plz help me
[04:51] <gary_nz> ok, i am back, that frozen install thing went away, i logged off and logged back in again
[04:51] <gary_nz> auto logged in
[04:51] <jrib> vox754: it was a mute, and my client lagged :)
[04:51] <hellcattrav> hey why do i have to retype my WEP key everytime I log in or restart my computer?
[04:51] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Yeah, but I can't see them.   Much less edit or delete them.
[04:51] <wepeel> eternal_p: Ok, I'm going to quick fix this with a startup command, then when I get a chance to get to the actual box I'll try wicd. Thanks!
[04:52] <gary_nz> so can someone explain what exactly does that install thing on the desktop do?
[04:52] <eternal_p> wepeel: no problem and with sessions, you don't need a sudo as it runs those commands as root any ways
[04:52] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: could you write to ntfs under edgy?
[04:52] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I don't know what Edgy is.
[04:52] <sy135> hey leutz
[04:52] <eternal_p> gary_nz: that actually installs ubuntu, when it boots off the cd, it is only a 'live cd' or one time OS running in memory
[04:52] <wepeel> eternal_p: excellent
[04:52] <Muxec> Are you interested in Ubuntu Home Server Edition? ;)
[04:52] <unimatrix9> gary_nz - that installs ubuntu unto the hard disk ( you really dont know? )
[04:52] <sy135> how to turn off swap?
[04:52] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I am new to Linux & Ubuntu.
[04:53] <eternal_p> sy135: why would you want to turn off swap?
[04:53] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : welcome
[04:53] <gary_nz> no, i really did not know
[04:53] <gary_nz> lol
[04:53] <unimatrix9> hehe
[04:53] <mandy> hey guys , does anyone knows why everything works fine under recovery mode (beryl , gnome , sound , ...) while my screen freezes with my radeon driver using beryl and gnome doesnt start untill i kill esd on normal mode... plz help me
[04:53] <insom> good morning
[04:53] <gary_nz> so once i remove the disk it will boot into windows
[04:53] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  Thanks, it's been fairly pleasant, if I could just get my other drive to show up.
[04:53] <sy135> eternal_p i've got 1gb of ram an don't want to use swap sometimes, because if it is once used my laptop is still slow after closing some programms
[04:54] <luca> hi everyone
[04:54] <gary_nz> and until i have the disk in the drive it wont take me to this "demo" of ubuntu correct?
[04:54] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  you said this drive worked well under Edgy a few lines back -- I'm a gentoo user, and so am just getting used to ubuntu terminology myself-- but the older kernel should have had only read-only support for ntfs
[04:54] <unimatrix9> mandy : why not turn off desktop effects ?
[04:54] <demon_spork> WHen I install Ubuntu on a SATA hard disk on my comp, it just simply fails to boot
[04:54] <insom> mandy perhaps recovery mode uses a different version beryl and esd?
[04:54] <luca> does anyone know if there is a way to set up a search engine other than google as firefox default?
[04:54] <insom> unimatrix9 maybe she likes wobbly windows
[04:54] <hellcattrav> hey all, is there anyway to not entire my WEP key, and the nvidia restricted drivers each time after i turn my computer on?
[04:54] <wepeel> how can I tell what users are currently logged into my machine (via ssh?)
[04:54] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I don't even know what Edgy is.
[04:54] <eternal_p> sy135: the OS handles it, and only uses swap when it needs to, I have 1 gig as well, just let ubuntu manage the memory, it will do a better job than you (no offence) however, as far as I know, the only way to get rid of swap is to rebuild your partition table without /swap
[04:54] <jrib> wepeel: w
[04:55] <void^> sy135: toy with /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to make it swap only if absolutely necessary
[04:55] <insom> luca check firefox website
[04:55] <wepeel> ah, or top
[04:55] <unimatrix9> not if it freezes the system, right?
[04:55] <void^> sy135: use /etc/sysctl.conf to make changes permament
[04:55] <wepeel> thankks jrib
[04:55] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I'm assuming it is an older version of Ubuntu, but I don't know.  This fiesty is the first version I've ever tried.
[04:55] <insom> unimatrix9 valid point but it works in recovery mode
[04:55] <sy135> htop says i've got 300mb of ram used
[04:55] <gary_nz> will it be ok to use only 30GB of the HD?
[04:55] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : what drive would you like to get acces to?
[04:55] <sy135> and 150mb of swap
[04:55] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  do you have an X server running?
[04:55] <mandy> insom : How can I check this ?
[04:56] <eternal_p> sy135: I only have 33mb of swap used, i wonder what yo uhave running
[04:56] <wepeel> does ubuntu have unix style messaging built in?
[04:57] <unimatrix9> gary_nz , 30 gig is fine
[04:57] <wepeel> i.e. if someone's ssh'ed into my machine, can I messae them
[04:57] <insom> mandy I'm not sure
[04:57] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: I have a drive sdb1 with about 200 gigs of data on it that is ntfs partitioned.  I'm trying to get it mounted with permission to read/write.  When I converted from windows this was a seperate drive and I could see the files but not delete/edit them.  I came in here seeking help and someone helped me unmount it and remount it, but now I can't see any of the files.
[04:57] <sy135> eternal_p i used a virtual mashine
[04:57] <Vastlee> joiningtheherdL No, I don't even know what X server is.
[04:58] <eternal_p> sy135: makes sense, I would still leave it..any differences you see will be snake oil I suspect, and when your system needs that extra ram, it is going to choke itself
[04:58] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: No, I don't even know what X server is.
[04:58] <X-User>   ?
[04:58] <chenchen> Anyone here encounter frequent crash Java issues in Ubuntu?
[04:58] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  do you have a GUI (graphical desktop)?
[04:58] <xite> how do i add windows entry to grub? ive windows on hdb5
[04:58] <unimatrix9> Vastlee ; i dont know if its wise to write to the drive with ubuntu , can some one tell us if ntfs is fully supported yet?
[04:58] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Yeah, Ubuntu
[04:58] <sy135> okay thanks for your opinion eternal_p
[04:58] <insom> mandy check private message
[04:59] <eternal_p> sy135: np
[04:59] <vox754> !ntfs-3g
[04:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:59] <eternal_p> xite: it should have added it automatically when you install
[04:59] <sy135> cu all
[04:59] <xite> eternal_p, it didnt...or why wud i ask??
[04:59] <eternal_p> xita: vista or XP?
[04:59] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: I would be willing to convert the data over to ext3 if that is possible.  As long as I could mount the drive with SAMBA and read it from my other windows machine.
[04:59] <unimatrix9> gary_nz  : then i think you need to install the ntfs-3g driver too ( after finishing install of ubuntu ) if thats what you want
[05:00] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  write(delete) is experimentally supported in kernels above 2.6.20 the read/execute permissions are determined by /etc/fstab and the mount directory
[05:00] <eternal_p> xita: I believe there is more youhave to do with vista & grub than XP and grub
[05:00] <jrib> wepeel: use wall or write
[05:00] <gary_nz> darn, im pretty sure i only had 50GB remaining >.< bit too late now since its resizing, i'll just have  to remove some programs from windows i guess
[05:00] <xmtgx> join #ubuntu-sa/
[05:01] <mandy> insom : Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[05:01] <wepeel> jrib: thanks
[05:01] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: *sigh*  I don't even know what that means.  All I want to do is mount this drive and be able to use the data on it.
[05:01] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : the wiser idea would maybe be to format an part of the drive as fat32 ( unless the files are bigger then 4Gig...)
[05:01] <Muxec> iLeave
[05:02] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: An idea I might consider if I didn't already have 200 gigs of info that I really didn't want to lose.
[05:02] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : and use that part as the space for exchanging files
[05:02] <insom> mandy evil
[05:02] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : i get your point..
[05:02] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  Actually...
[05:02] <hamlet> A
[05:02] <EhPrettyEasy> How can I have dual boot with XP and Ubuntu?
[05:03] <vox754> !dual boot
[05:03] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:03] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: and read up on how these things work a bit under linux -- try the man pages, and reading docs and FAQs
[05:03] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  I might be able to get rid of some old stuff and have room on my sba1 drive to copy everything over.
[05:03] <Micieri> If anyone can be arsed enough, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597440#post2597440
[05:03] <killerbunny> How do i add items to the mouse2 menu on the desktop ?
[05:03] <mandy> insom , it says i cant get private message
[05:03] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : the reading is not the problem , from linux you can read the drive
[05:04] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : the writing though is not wise using ubuntu...to ntfs disk
[05:04] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  The whole problem from the get go has been the permissions.  I could read them fine but not delete/change them.
[05:04] <unimatrix9> right
[05:04] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:04] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  I do see your point and in the long run it might be beneficial to go ahead and change over to ext3.
[05:04] <nomin> this month's issue of maximumpc says linux is now easier than ever and the time to use it is now:  http://www.maximumpc.com/this_month
[05:05] <EhPrettyEasy> unimatrix9: If I install Ubuntu, is the dual boot option already in it?
[05:05] <nomin> they picked ubuntu in their example
[05:05] <unimatrix9> yes
[05:05] <EhPrettyEasy> I got the CD for Feisty
[05:05] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: Is there a tool/utility that would convert the data/drive over to ext3 without formating it?
[05:05] <aidan> I don't see Opera in any of the repositories? How do I install opera with apt (rather than dpkg)
[05:05] <wepeel> nomin: I agree. I've been tring linux installations for many, many years. Ubuntu is the first one I got running satisfactorily and I then made the switch from windows permanently
[05:05] <unimatrix9> first try feisty and make sure it works to you liking..
[05:05] <insom^> mandy did you register? are you able to send/receive messages now?
[05:05] <Micieri> EASIER THAN EVER?
[05:05] <Micieri> YEAH MAYBE IF YOU CAN GET ONTO IT
[05:05] <Micieri> -_________-
[05:06] <unimatrix9> if so ( first install xp ) then ubuntu and its setup for you...
[05:06] <LjL> !caps | Micieri
[05:06] <ubotu> Micieri: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:06] <vox754> Micieri, that is correct!
[05:06] <aidan> I just made the permanent switch to ubuntu too.
[05:06] <mandy> insom^ : im working on it right , i still cant receive private messages , sorry im really new to all these things
[05:06] <Micieri> I made my second HD Ubuntu dedicated..
[05:06] <aidan> It takes some getting used to, and I'm tempted  to switch back every now and again. I have to remind myself that I spend a lot of time getting things working on XP too.
[05:06] <insom^> mandy no worries
[05:07] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : no tool , not that i know off, keep it ntfs, and work out an solution ...in an other way
[05:07] <wepeel> Micieri: what kind of problems have you been having?
[05:07] <nomin> wepeel: I use both mandriva and ubuntu.  I think ubuntu handles updates much easier but sometimes things won't work on ubuntu when on mandriva I install something and it just works.  But the latest version of ubuntu may be much better now.
[05:07] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597440#post2597440
[05:07] <Micieri> Those kind of problems
[05:07] <insom^> mandy, join #insomnia
[05:07] <xite> how do i add windows entry to grub? ive windows on hdb5
[05:07] <void^> Micieri: next time it stalls take a look at 'dmesg'. are you confident your hd didn't simply break down, anyways?
[05:07] <cotton> Hey, When I type, it lags, how can I fix this
[05:07] <gary_nz> ok i have a small question, my HD partitioning is still at 0%
[05:07] <Micieri> I'm pretty darn confident
[05:07] <unimatrix9> gary_nz it takes a while when big ...
[05:07] <cotton> !ohmy
[05:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:07] <Dave_is_sexy> should usr/lib be 2.5gb? xubuntu minimalist install
[05:07] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  Been trying to do so for about 3 hours now.  :(  It's actually getting worse.  When I first setup Ubuntu it set that drive up as media/disk and I could see all the files.  Since being in here I've unmounted it and remounted it, now I can't see the data at all.
[05:08] <Micieri> void^ - It stalls in the text installer thing
[05:08] <gary_nz> but its only 30GB i allocated
[05:08] <void^> Micieri: there's virtual consoles, alt+f2 etc.
[05:09] <Micieri> eh?
[05:09] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : maybe you need to take an rest before you proceed...any way here an read for you https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s03.html
[05:09] <PikkewynSA> hi people
[05:09] <nomin> the only thing I haven't been able to do well on linux is running games made to only run on windows.  Cedega doesn't work with everything and wine is the same.
[05:09] <vox754> unimatrix9, I haven't tried Feisty CD, but are you sure there is a way to do dual boot from it, I mean don't you have to resize and partition first. You may be giving the wrong impression to new users if you are not careful with what you say.
[05:09] <Vastlee> Thanks for trying to help.  The effort is appreciated, regardless of the result.
[05:09] <HOT> how do i enable directx 10?
[05:10] <encoded> <3 slim
[05:10] <eternal_p> HOT: on ubuntu..you download and install Vista :)
[05:10] <seanieb64> Hi people
[05:10] <wepeel> Micieri: that's your problem, you haven't had enough time to be frustrated with linux yet. It's like, I dunno, karma, or something
[05:10] <davidisk1> guys, why there is not mysql5.1 on ubuntu feisty?
[05:10] <seanieb64> Here to help out with support
[05:10] <Micieri> .
[05:10] <LjL> vox754: uh?! dual boot is set up automatically, and the Ubuntu installer, if it detects a Windows partition filling the drive, asks you if you want to shrink it down and make space for the Ubuntu partition.
[05:10] <unimatrix9> vox754 : what makes you say so, did i give the wrong impression , then please correct
[05:10] <wepeel> Micieri: you haven't tried installing on another HD by andy chance have you?
[05:10] <Micieri> When it works fine for 3 days, and decides to not work, then I get frustrated
[05:10] <Micieri> No I haven't
[05:10] <shriphani> bulmer, it didnt work
[05:10] <mrmonday> is anyone here using an rt61 wireless chipset on feisty? If so, can you say how you did it please!
[05:10] <Micieri> I only have 2..
[05:10] <Hamm_laptop> can anyone direct me towards a channel where i can ask   Terminal related questions?
[05:11] <HOT> ubuntu wont make me coffee, how do i enable direct coffee composition?
[05:11] <mc44> Hamm_laptop: you can ask here... :)
[05:11] <seanieb64> terminal's pretty straight forward
[05:11] <unimatrix9> HOT , use the expresso button
[05:11] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:11] <Vastlee> Question: If a disk is set as: Read-only file system, how do you change it over to RW?
[05:11] <jrib> Vastlee: depends on the filesystem
[05:11] <wepeel> Micieri: yeah, that is frustrating. System halts are particularly annoying.  Sounds like the disk cylinders are all screwed up. Does your xp HD work?
[05:11] <LjL> Vastlee: mount /dev/whatever -o remount=rw
[05:11] <Vastlee> jrib: ntsc
[05:11] <shriphani> has anyone had issues with external hd in feisty please ?
[05:12] <vox754> LjL, unimatrix9 thanks both, I have't used the CD yet. I'm just stating that we should we extra careful when telling people to install ubuntu, I've met a guy who lost his entire Win XP and school work because he installed like that.
[05:12] <sc0tch> Has anyone been able to get wpa_supplicant working with the included madwifi drivers on Edgy? I get 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out after assoc attemps.
[05:12] <LjL> oh, my disks are all PAL :P
[05:12] <Vastlee> LjL: Thanks, will try that
[05:12] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > Vastlee (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:12] <Micieri> wepeel - Yes, that's what makes it more frustrating, that one works fine
[05:12] <LjL> vox754: i guess he left the "Wipe the entire drive" option selected instead of the "Shrink existing partitions blah blah".
[05:12] <graveson1> how can i configure grub?
[05:12] <LjL> !grub > graveson1    (graveson1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:12] <spyke01> hey guys anyone know how to get the titlebar back on objects, restart didnt fix it
[05:13] <PikkewynSA> guys what do i use to rip dvd to divx on feisty
[05:13] <davidisko> guys, why there is not mysql5.1 on ubuntu feisty?
[05:13] <shriphani> erm anyone ?
[05:13] <unimatrix9> vox754 : as i said , first use the livecd and be sure it works as you would like it too, then you couls consider ...
[05:13] <wepeel> Micieri: do you have a disk partitioning program set up on XP?
[05:13] <graveson1> !grub
[05:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:13] <unimatrix9> oh well...
[05:13] <davidisko> is there anyone using mysql5.1 on feisty?
[05:14] <PikkewynSA> !divx
[05:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <Micieri> No wepeel, but when I installed Ubuntu on the second HD, I formatted it
[05:14] <Micieri> Plus XP can't seem to find the other HD..
[05:14] <Micieri> It finds it when I search for new hardware
[05:14] <vox754> Vastlee, okay, time for a private help, go here #vocx
[05:14] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : there are lots of tips about ubuntu here..https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[05:14] <Micieri> but My Computer doesn't see it
[05:14] <wepeel> Micieri: right, I wanted to find out if a disk partitioner could see the other HD and reformat it. That's worked for me in the past
[05:15] <Micieri> The text-based installer formatted it too..
[05:15] <wepeel> Micieri: Something like partition magic
[05:15] <LjL> vox754, #ubuntu-classroom is a good place (when it's not taken) for in-depth help
[05:15] <tattoodjay> anyone able to give tips on using 4 wallpapers on the beryl 3d cube
[05:15] <roadfish> How can I startup firestarter without a password? I added firestarter to /etc/sudoers. But when I "sudo firestarter" then I get "Xlib: connection refused by server ... No protocol specified". What am I doing wrong?
[05:15] <Micieri> But even if I want to use the whole HD for Ubuntu?
[05:15] <unimatrix9> LjL , is ubuntu class room stil open?
[05:15] <spyke01> anyone know how to restore the titlebars to windows, i also no longer havfe a window border section on the theme gui
[05:16] <user01> is there a way to automatically do you /msg NickServ IDENTIFY command in xchat so i dont have to keep reentering it everytime?
[05:16] <Vastlee> jrib: OMG... I've been in here for 3 hours trying to do what you just told me to do that took literally 43 seconds
[05:16] <AlbertoP> user01, Server password :-)
[05:16] <LjL> unimatrix9, it's always open. sometimes there are sessions, in which case it should not be used as a help channel of course
[05:16] <wepeel> Micieri: yep. Other than that, I think the only way you're going to solve your problem is to get a different HD. That's just a guess though
[05:16] <Vastlee> jrib:  All I had to do was unmount it and run the ntfs config tool.
[05:16] <Micieri> Bah..
[05:16] <vox754> Vastlee, success! see, no problemo!
[05:16] <gary_nz> its still at 0%
[05:17] <AlbertoP> user01, no sorry, Nickserv password, in the config tab of the IRC server
[05:17] <rubydo> Hi, quick question on keyboard prefs - in Win, when I press Alt, I can flick through menu items, e.g in Firefox - what do I change to make Ubuntu work that way?
[05:17] <gary_nz> resizing of partition
[05:17] <Micieri> alt+tab?
[05:17] <Vastlee> LOL... would have been nice to accomplish that 3 hours ago, but hey nothing good in life comes easy right...
[05:17] <The_Belgain> hi there - a quick question: what's the best way to run ubuntu and windows XP simultaneously on the same machine (i.e. using virtualization)?
[05:17] <AlbertoP> user01, just put the nick password there and set the right nick
[05:17] <vox754> LjL, thanks for the advice, but I prefer to use a private channel, since we tend to go off topic sometimes
[05:18] <user01> AlbertoP: what is the server password for?
[05:18] <The_Belgain> afaik, there's KVM, VMware, Xen, ... what are the pros and cons?
[05:18] <rubydo> Micieri: I mean to select File / Edit etc (menu bar)
[05:18] <AlbertoP> user01, for servers which require a password to connect to
[05:18] <LjL> rubydo, i think pressing Alt + the hotkey for the menu you want will work. try Alt+F in Firefox
[05:18] <arron> when i run a remote desktop via ssh, how can i keep it in a window on the pc im logging in with?
[05:18] <spyke01> nm launching matacity as root fixed it
[05:18] <xTra> Hello, does Dell Latitude D820 fully support Ubuntu? Thanks.
[05:19] <vox754> Vastlee, it is actually easy, you just need to try to understand what you are doing... read all you can
[05:19] <graveson1> how can i configure grub?
[05:19] <gary_nz> uhh guys, i dont know how long a partition of the drive shud take but its been about 20 minutes and nothing has really happened, its still showing as at 0%
[05:19] <wepeel> Micieri: hey, one more option. have you tried another linux distro?
[05:19] <unimatrix9> The_Belgain, depends on your usage, vmware is very good and easy
[05:19] <vox754> xTra, cheack the forums for your hardware ubuntuforums.org
[05:19] <LjL> graveson1, *what* do you want to "configure"? i gave you hotwos.
[05:19] <variant> gary_nz: did you have to resize the partitions or move any existing ones?
[05:19] <Vastlee> The good news is that the knowledge can now tree out.  The next guy I see asking the same question I can give him the quick answer.
[05:19] <Micieri> Yeah..
[05:19] <wepeel> Micieri: try installing debian. If it has the same problem, it's very likely the disk
[05:19] <user01> AlbertoP: ok lets see if it works now . . .
[05:19] <wepeel> Micieri: and?
[05:19] <Micieri> I tried Knoppix.. but that doesn't use a HD
[05:20] <rubydo> LjL: That works, thanks! Must be possible to have Alt just select the first option straight away as in Windows though?
[05:20] <wepeel> Micieri: I mean one that acutally installs on the HD
[05:20] <LjL> rubydo: not sure
[05:20] <Micieri> No then :P
[05:20] <Arvid> how do I install ruby 1.8.4, and make it my default ruby-version
[05:20] <wepeel> Micieri: hehe, try that. See what happens
[05:20] <The_Belgain> unimatrix9: this is machine used as a headless server box (it's currently linux-only, but i'll need windows xp installed for streaming video to an xbox 360 unfortunately)
[05:20] <gary_nz> all it said was that the drive needs to be partitioned and i used Guided and set it at 30GB
[05:20] <Micieri> Ok.
[05:20] <unimatrix9> knoppix can be installed to HD too...
[05:20] <variant> Micieri: try www.slax.org. very small distro that has a click to install to disk icon
[05:20] <user01> AlbertoP: ok looks ok now
[05:20] <vox754> Micieri, with Knoppix try to find out which drivers it is using
[05:20] <AlbertoP> user01, :)
[05:20] <variant> Micieri: download the standard one.. 190MB as the installer is not in the ohter ones afaik
[05:21] <graveson1> LjL: sorry i missed it . i installed grub to the 1st disk ( windows MBR) and for the 1st boot i was able to choose between windows and linux. i booted into windows and thereafter nothing work.i then reinstalled and i did not get the option to write to the MBR, i managed to restore my windows disk but grub only has the linux disk configured(sorry for the long story)
[05:21] <The_Belgain> so it doesn't need to do anything particularly clever, but performance needs to be good on both OSes, as it'll be doing on-the-fly transcoding in XP
[05:21] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian vmware server , its free download...check it out...
[05:21] <wepeel> Once, to get Debian installed on an old machine, I "had to" install mandrake then debian over it. Weird, but it worked
[05:21] <mark_wo> snes9x doesn't run at full speed here, it did once but never again, any idea what that might be? i got amd64 and feisty
[05:22] <Vastlee> Question Please: When I move something to the trash in Ubuntu it doesn't increase the free space.  How do I actually delete something?
[05:22] <wepeel> Vastlee: right click ont he trash icon in the lower right
[05:22] <Memories> hello everyone
[05:22] <user01> does anyone else have issues where video playback doesnt work with beryl?
[05:22] <Memories> im facing major problems with my internet connection
[05:22] <roadfish> I added firestarter to sudoers. But "gksudo" says "No protocol specified ... cannot open display". Why won't gksudo start firestarter?
[05:22] <Memories> im lagging like hell
[05:22] <The_Belgain> and VMware Server will work for this?  i've currently got feisty installed on the machine can i just install VMware server from their site and use the XP image under it?
[05:23] <Memories> even though my ping time reply to the host is lower than 0.100 ms
[05:23] <|ericsson|> Have you moo'ed today?
[05:23] <hylje> roadfish: do you have X?
[05:23] <Memories> could anyone help out?!
[05:23] <vox754> Vastlee, empty the thrash, or do "rm <file>"
[05:23] <wepeel> Memories: has everything worked fine on this install before?
[05:23] <Memories> yes
[05:23] <B123> Hey, I tried to use k9dvd, but whenever i do it crashes. Is there any other program that could backup select parts of DVD's to ISO's? Please help
[05:23] <Memories> wepeel yes everything worked out perfectly
[05:23] <wepeel> Memories: does it happen in all protocols (http, ftp etc)?
[05:23] <Malachi> Is there a guide for getting my wireless keyboard working with Ubuntu? The mouse works fine.
[05:24] <LjL> graveson1, try "sudo upgrade-grub"
[05:24] <Vastlee> vox754: This is odd... I right click on something huge, a couple gigs, and do move to trash.  The free space doesn't change, even after I right click on the trash bin and click empty trash.
[05:24] <LjL> graveson1: then see if your /boot/grub/menu.lst file lists Windows
[05:24] <Memories> wepeel: i just tried msn,http so far.. and i just tried connectiing to irc (after 15 min of trials) it connected
[05:24] <wepeel> Memories: how are you connected?
[05:24] <Memories> wepeel, using ICS to an xp os
[05:25] <Memories> using kerio light (not the default window's ics)
[05:25] <vox754> Vastlee, maybe refresh nautilus... I've heard this one before.The simple solution is to reboot, and you'll see the freed space.
[05:25] <graveson1> LjL : command not found ?
[05:25] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian : find an how to install vmware server ubuntu in google, i was looking into it to see if there is an solution to stream from linux to the xbox, but did not find any yet..
[05:25] <wepeel> Memories: have you tried resetting your hardware connection o the server?
[05:25] <Vastlee> vox754:  Thanks, I'll try.
[05:25] <Memories> wepeel, i disabled and enabled it again with no luck
[05:25] <LjL> graveson1: err sorry, *update*-grub
[05:25] <wepeel> Memories: how is the xp machine doing?
[05:25] <Memories> wepeel: xp is connected perfectly to the net
[05:25] <rubydo> Hi - Totem Movie Player often shows a black screen - codecs etc are OK because video shows if I move the window around and maximize / minimize a few times - any ideas how to make it more stable?
[05:26] <B123> !DVD
[05:26] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:26] <wepeel> has XP been updated resently?
[05:26] <B123> !Universe
[05:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:26] <fiveiron> anyone else not getting audio from the flash player after upgrading to feisty?
[05:26] <wepeel> Memories: has the xp box been updated recently?
[05:26] <fiveiron> all other audio works fine... just not the flash player
[05:26] <Memories> wepeel : no
[05:26] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian the closest i get is this article http://happybeggar.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=2
[05:26] <B123> does anyone know of any dvd backup tools?
[05:26] <B123> for linux
[05:27] <graveson1> LjL : sorry , *update*-grub not working either
[05:27] <fiveiron> B123: K3B?
[05:27] <The_Belgain> unimatrix9: i've looked too, and i don't think there is a solution to stream video to an xbox 360 yet.  I'll be using TVersity on XP in the VM image - it looks like a pretty decent program and is free (as in beer).  they say they'll be working on a linux port at some point in the future
[05:27] <B123> I mean, like make DVD's' into Iso
[05:27] <LjL> graveson1: ... i meant the * as in bold, to correct the typo.
[05:27] <wepeel> Memories: is it possible for you to connect the ubuntu box directly to the internet connection?
[05:27] <LjL> graveson1: the command is  sudo update-grub 
[05:27] <insom^> what's the difference between recovery mode and normal ubuntu?
[05:27] <Memories> wepeel: if this helps, the cpu is always on 98 % a process called XORG takes most of its power
[05:27] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian  lets hope they port it soon!
[05:27] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:27] <LjL> insom^: recovery mode is single user with no GUI
[05:27] <Memories> wepeel , i cant.. cables are wide apart theres no instalation here except crossover cable
[05:28] <wepeel> Memories: the Ubuntu cpu?
[05:28] <The_Belgain> cheers for the link, but i need something that'll transcode and stream on the fly - i'm not transcoding all my video collection
[05:28] <B123> K9 crashes for me
[05:28] <Memories> wepeel yes
[05:28] <vox754> LjL, haha, you better not use those symbols * <<.... how do you get the guillemots?
[05:28] <The_Belgain> is there a big performance impact when using VMware?
[05:28] <LjL> vox754: altgr+z and altgr+x, i'm not on a US layout though.
[05:28] <FocusRite> does anyone use LVM here?
[05:28] <The_Belgain> compared to say KVM?
[05:29] <wepeel> Memories: xorg is your x windows system. There's no reason it should be taking up that much memory. But it could very well account for your problems, I suppose.
[05:29] <budluva> The_Belgain: i dont think so, just dont expect to play games
[05:29] <vox754> LjL, thanks
[05:29] <FocusRite> the_belgian: yes, they're pretty different
[05:29] <graveson1> LjL: not it is not updating, can i edit this file manually ( menu.lst)
[05:29] <Memories> wepeel: my X windows system? why would it b on if im on linux ?
[05:29] <The_Belgain> KVM requires a CPU with virutalization technology, whereas VMware doesn't right?
[05:29] <ryks> hi
[05:29] <LjL> graveson1: yeah but honestly i don't know specifically what you should add for Windows
[05:30] <shivo> anyone from italy can help me? i've got an error with the GRUB....
[05:30] <budluva> Memories: X Window System
[05:30] <budluva> Memories: not windows
[05:30] <Memories> ah
[05:30] <Memories> well i only have firefox and AMSn usualy opened thts bout it
[05:30] <Memories> and occasionly AMarok
[05:31] <vox754> Memories, probably you have a bad driver for your card. X Window is always on in graphical environments, when you say you have no X, you usually refer to console only
[05:31] <ryks> have problem with my tvtuner in ubuntu
[05:31] <wepeel> Memories: xorg is showing up under the system monitor?
[05:31] <roadfish> hylje: yes, I am running X and trying to startup firestarter without entering the password all the time
[05:31] <Memories> wepeel yes
[05:31] <wepeel> vox754: why would this happen suddenly, tho?
[05:31] <ryks> enyone?
[05:31] <Memories> vox754 how can i b sure of tht!
[05:32] <budluva> ryks: good luck :P
[05:32] <ryks> ???
[05:32] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian  i dont know all the insides, but vmware server is easier to handle and setup, and xp runs more painless...( you need 512 ram at least )
[05:32] <zbrown> Where is the font folder if I want to add more fonts to the system?
[05:32] <ryks> hi
[05:32] <wepeel> Memories: hehe, well I'm running x windows and don't have xorg running...try killing xorg to see what happens. Then reboot
[05:32] <marcos> kurumin
[05:32] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian   any way , got to go, good luck very one and bye bye...
[05:32] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:32] <ryks> have video but audio nop
[05:33] <vox754> Memories, wepeel, I recall I used the "vesa" driver and everything was slow, using 100 CPU, then I used my proper "via" driver, and now it is all smooth
[05:33] <vox754> !fonts
[05:33] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:33] <wepeel> vox754: yah, that will happen. I think he said that he hadn't changed anything, though.
[05:33] <shriphani> bulmer, if you are there...... i can manually mount it but it wont automount
[05:34] <wepeel> Memories: you haven't tried to upgrade your video driver or anything recently have you?
[05:34] <ryks> pllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[05:34] <ryks> just a word :)
[05:34] <vox754> ryks, what about giving info, not just yelling!
[05:34] <ryks> hehe
[05:35] <shivo> i have this problem:  i had win xp on a partition a ubuntu on another one, i uninstalled ubuntu just to re-organize all the partition on my hd
[05:35] <shivo> i delete the partition with ubuntu
[05:35] <shivo> but now win xp doesn't start anymore
[05:35] <luisgmarine> Hello I'm trying to edit my /etc/fstab, and I'm doing this for the ext3 speed tweak, I have to add a couple of options after the 'errors=remount-ro' then after that there is two numbers ' 0     1', are these parts of the 'errors' option?
[05:35] <Bibagi> why i can't save file on my windows driver from linux :S ? as they are mounted.. i can access them :s
[05:35] <shivo> the machine tells me: grub loading....error 17
[05:35] <vox754> ryks, which card, which chipset?
[05:35] <shivo> anyone can help me in pvt?
[05:35] <vox754> !grub > shivo
[05:35] <The_Belgain> thanks all - i'll give VMware a go then
[05:35] <The_Belgain> i have another question: i'm hitting a crash in VLC and want to submit a bugreport to VLC upstream
[05:35] <shivo> please!!
[05:35] <ryks> aver tv go plus
[05:35] <shivo> !grub
[05:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:35] <The_Belgain> i'm not managing to get a stack trace out for the crash though
[05:36] <Jammeri> does anyone know if Radeon open source drivers are capable of running Beryl?
[05:36] <bullgard4> My Ubuntu 7.04 computer stores 216 files containing 'acpi'in the filename. What file of them contains the compiled code of the source code file acpiconf.c?
[05:36] <The_Belgain> i've installed the latest VLC from the source tarball on their site, and verified that the crash still happens on the latest version
[05:36] <vox754> luisgmarine, those are something else, read the man page for "mount" or "fstab"
[05:36] <Bibagi> why i can't save file on my windows driver from linux :S ? as they are mounted.. i can access them :s
[05:36] <ryks> and i have a code that is reallly work bat just put in konsole evry time i m start
[05:36] <X-User>  error: period size 48 is not supported by playback (64) why this ?
[05:36] <ryks> sox -c 2 -sw -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/ds
[05:36] <ryks> like this
[05:36] <Jammeri> Bibagi, probably mounted as read-only ?
[05:36] <ryks> how can i introduce this in player?
[05:36] <X-User> help me
[05:37] <Devyll> can anybody give me a how-to for setting up masquearading with ubuntu ?
[05:37] <wepeel> well, gotta run. Bye all
[05:37] <Bibagi> Jammeri  how can i correct it ?
[05:37] <vikesh> Hi
[05:37] <X-User> help ME
[05:37] <Jammeri> Bibagi, you would have to unmount and mount them as read&write
[05:38] <vox754> Bibagi, you need write access, which is possible with ntfs-3g driver. However, writing to ntfs drives is not perfect.
[05:38] <vikesh> I have NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 400 card
[05:38] <ryks> i mean is too nasty to put evry time this when i start the player
[05:38] <vikesh> XServer keeps restarting in feisty
[05:38] <vikesh> please help me
[05:38] <Vastlee> Question Please: If I move data from an NTFS partitioned drive over to an ext3 drive, does it change the data?
[05:39] <Bibagi> vox754 so you r suggesting me not give read n write access :S ?
[05:39] <vox754> Vastlee, no
[05:39] <Vastlee> vox754:  Thanks again :)
[05:39] <ryks> i out of here :(
[05:39] <vox754> Bibagi, no, I recommend you to move the files to another partition which can be read and written from both Windows and Linux, like a FAT32 or ext3 partition
[05:40] <matt___> does berly slow down your system a lot?
[05:40] <ICS_NIC> hey
[05:40] <ICS_NIC> its me memories
[05:40] <ICS_NIC> i had to connect from the XP host now :S
[05:40] <Bibagi> vox754 some of my windows drives r in fat32 partition :S so can i give them r&w access ? :S
[05:41] <vox754> Bibagi, yes
[05:41] <ICS_NIC> the client (ubuntu ) dont have a connection to the net no more
[05:41] <ICS_NIC> so why do u think my ICS on ubuntu(client) isnt working!
[05:41] <Bibagi> vox754 thanks.. how can i do that :S ? :$ sorry i am a new user of Linux
[05:41] <demon_spork> How do I uninstall GRUB and install LILO without internet access?
[05:42] <mc__> has anyone got enemy territory running on amd64 with sound? I googled already and tried out several things(aoss,artdsp,etc) but still get the message that /dev/dsp is busy,and so i have no sound
[05:42] <nonlinear> can anyone help me with a boot prob "ata1.oo: SET of native returned 0, expected xxxxx"
[05:42] <vox754> Bibagi, I think they have read and write permissions only to root, which means you would need to use "sudo" or "gksudo" on nautilus to move files, but you may edit "/etc/fstab" to give permissions to other groups or users
[05:43] <vox754> mc__, unless you really now what you are doing, I would recommend using the 32 bit distro
[05:43] <edgard> my browser does not display the pages correctly can anyone helps
[05:43] <mc__> vox754: well i "need" 64 bit,and im an experienced linux user
[05:44] <mc__> vox754: 3d moddeling is much slower with 32 bit..
[05:44] <vox754> mc__, okay, it is good to hear positive experiences
[05:44] <reubs>  i lost my dvb card in an upgrade from 6.10.
[05:45] <vox754> Bibagi, here #vocx
[05:45] <reubs> anyone got any expericence in dvb cards
[05:45] <stefg> reubs: firmware there?
[05:46] <acollins> does anyone know what controls the font DPI on gnome/gtk? since last night's apt dist-upgrade in gutsy, my gnome fonts are smaller
[05:46] <acollins> my kde/qt fonts are the same as they used to be
[05:46] <Malachi> Is there a guide for getting my wireless keyboard working with Ubuntu? The mouse works fine.
[05:47] <SubMOA> how do i register!?
[05:47] <leafw> where is the gnome-timer-applet? I've installed it, but there is no bin for it!
[05:47] <vox754> Malachi, usually both must work. My keyboard and mouse set works okay, no need to configure
[05:47] <stefg> !register | SubMOA
[05:47] <ubotu> SubMOA: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:47] <leafw> the "Installed Files" in synaptic does not point to any binary either
[05:47] <reubs> um, i don't think it needed any firmware as it worked for 6.04 & 6.10.
[05:48] <Malachi> vox754: Hm. Mine doesn't.
[05:48] <SubMOA> thanks stefg
[05:48] <stefg> reubs: make & model?
[05:48] <Hamm_laptop> where is my trash directoy located in the file system?
[05:48] <Malachi> Hamm_laptop: ./Trash
[05:48] <Malachi> Erm...sorry.
[05:48] <Malachi> ~/.Trash
[05:48] <Malachi> Hamm_Laptop: ~/.Trash
[05:49] <reubs> its an  aussi model . http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/
[05:49] <Malachi> Hamm_Laptop: Which would be /home/<username>/.Trash
[05:49] <Lord_Maynoth_42> Isn't there an automated bug reporting tool built into feisty?
[05:50] <stefg> reubs: so what does  'dmesg | grep DVB' yield?
[05:50] <SubMOA> stefg, holy cow that's a lot of stuff
[05:50] <Lifenomad> Can I speak of Kubuntu in this IRC?
[05:51] <hagabaka> is there a web feed for package changelogs?
[05:51] <Malachi> Hamm_laptop: Sure.
[05:51] <reubs> just a second i will open a new window, i think it might be confusing it with another card ...
[05:51] <cac__> hi room
[05:51] <cac__> I have a problem with my x1185 printer
[05:51] <Malachi> Hamm_laptop: But before you do, I have a noobish question of my own. How do you PM? =) I've been on Linux/X-Chat for 3 years, and haven't figured that out.
[05:51] <cac__> it does not work in ubuntu
[05:51] <cac__> I cannot find the drivers for this printer
[05:52] <Lifenomad> Can anyone explain why the Kubuntu Konqorer doesn't work?
[05:52] <cac__> this is a big bug
[05:52] <reubs> stefg: CORE cx88[0] : subsystem: 18ac:db10, board: DViCO FusionHDTV DVB-T Plus [card=21,autodetected] 
[05:52] <Agony> OK, so here's my problem, I recently upgraded from Edgy to Feisty, and now sound does not work. Attempting to play any sound results in the error: "Could not open resource for writing."
[05:52] <cac__> it comes from older versions
[05:52] <SockToy> Hey there ;) Just installed Feisty server on a VIA EPIA I previously had dapper running on no problem.. .after reboot & grub I get the rather mysterious message " Int 14: CR2 c1000000 err 00000002 EIP c03f3c3e CS 00000060 flags 00010006 " and the system halts when it should be loading the kernel. Google has no hints... any dieas?
[05:52] <reubs> but i have no dvb in /dev
[05:52] <salsero> hi. i have problemes with truecrypt. i wanted to mount it, but i get this. message: Cannot read hidden volume header: Input/output error
[05:52] <salsero> Please check the filesystem supports files larger than 2GB.
[05:52] <Tom47> Lord_Maynoth_42: its under 'help' in an application window
[05:52] <salsero> what can i do? u can also answer in german
[05:53] <decade_> hi does anybody know where i can find the osx86 image
[05:53] <ikonone> I have an issue when I try to open Desktop effects, A message pops up saying "The Composite extension is not available".  Any ideas?
[05:53] <cac__> How can I use this printer lexmark x1185 in ubuntu?
[05:53] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :c
[05:53] <Lord_Maynoth_42> no help menu
[05:53] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :C
[05:54] <stefg> reubs: ok, should be a message like 'registering frontend 0'...  paste your dmesg to pastebin, so i can have a look
[05:54] <ikonone> I am using Gnome fyi
[05:54] <SubMOA> cac__, as far as I know, lexmark is not supported practically AT ALL... if you find a way, let me know!
[05:54] <sarthor> hey is a routed ip locatable?
[05:54] <Malachi> Hamm_laptop: I see you're using the terminal. If you're using the gui filemanager (nautilus), you can use CTRL+H
[05:54] <StoneNote> SockToy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419910
[05:54] <Tom47> ikonone do you have an ati graphics card?
[05:54] <ikonone> yes
[05:54] <Malachi> Hamm_laptop: You're very welcome.
[05:54] <StoneNote> The VIA C3 processor is not fully a 686-type processor. The server kernel will only run on a 686 or better. The workaround is to use the desktop kernel. It will work fine.
[05:54] <vox754> !de
[05:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:54] <Tom47> ikonone: ok thats why then ....
[05:54] <cac__> I searched the web, there is one way, installing z600 driver makes x1185 works
[05:55] <ikonone> Tom47: ok? is there a way to fix it? it worked when I first installed
[05:55] <SockToy> StoneNote: Thanks ;) Really appreciate it - I have an old dapper kernel about, so presumably if I copy it over and update my grub install I'd be GTG?
[05:55] <SubMOA> cac_ hmm... I have a x8350
[05:55] <reubs> thanks just give me a second. thanks for the help
[05:55] <ikonone> Tom47: but once I installed and removed beryl it  broke.
[05:55] <stefg> reubs: i'm pretty sure you're missing a firmware-file
[05:55] <Agony> OK, so here's my problem, I recently upgraded from Edgy to Feisty, and now sound does not work. Attempting to play any sound results in the error: "Could not open resource for writing."
[05:55] <sarthor> yes ??? is it or is it not?
[05:55] <Tom47> ikonone: the best place to discuss beryl / etc is #ubuntu-effects
[05:55] <cac__> that is terrible because you cannot print in LINUX
[05:56] <SubMOA> cac_ I know
[05:56] <airtonix> not true
[05:56] <ikonone> Tom47: well I no longer use beryl.  I was just saying that I had installed it, but then I removed it
[05:56] <SockToy> Next time I will think of searching the Ubuntu forums... Just figured google would already have them indexed, more fool me
[05:56] <ikonone> guess I should try there anyway
[05:56] <ikonone> Tom47: ty much
[05:56] <cac__> another BIG BUG to fix ubuntu staff
[05:56] <StoneNote> SockToy, they suggest using the alternate cd in that forum posting
[05:56] <airtonix> cac_ : i installed c ups on xubuntu and all ten of the windows machines i run could print to it by name
[05:57] <reubs> ok so you want the output from the dmesg without the grep?
[05:57] <SockToy> StoneNote: Yeah, if its onlky the kernel rather than some kind of binary compilation issue I'm happier just copying my old kernel across and seeing how it works, rather than waiting hours for the alt. cd to bit torrent down
[05:57] <Trax> hello
[05:57] <cac__> it's a lie when ubuntu people say that it recognizes 100% hardware
[05:57] <SockToy> You've set me on the right path so I should be ok from now ;)
[05:57] <airg> i have installed 7.04 lately and i was wondering if automatic-removal of unneeded packages was added to Synaptic or there is any way to automatically remove unneeded packages
[05:57] <SubMOA> hey trax, what's happenin
[05:57] <StoneNote> SockToy, you can always see if it works.
[05:57] <Trax> think the better question is what isn't happening :(
[05:57] <cac__> and devices
[05:57] <demon_spork> How do I install Kernel Sources??
[05:57] <airtonix> cac__: is that a truth of macosx or windows?
[05:57] <Sergo> anyone know how to configure 3D-Acceleration for video card
[05:58] <Vastlee> How do I install Cherrypy?  I'm getting an error when I'm trying to run a python script: ImportError: No module named cherrypy
[05:58] <Tom47> !3d
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <demon_spork> !kernel
[05:58] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:58] <orbin> cac__: ubuntu people being who?
[05:58] <Vastlee> !Python
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <pala> i love python
[05:58] <SlimeyPete> cac__: erm, when has anyone said it recognises 100% of hardware? O.o
[05:58] <stefg> !nvidia | Sergo
[05:58] <ubotu> Sergo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <Sergo> my video card is not Ati/Nvidia..
[05:59] <cac__> in the forums they commonly say it recognizes almost all devices
[05:59] <airtonix> cac__: wanna know how lnog it took to get my computer up and going all of it with feisty?
[05:59] <stefg> Sergo: http://www.pthree.org/2007/05/01/advice-for-irc-newbies/
[05:59] <demon_spork> Sergo, what is your card?
[05:59] <vbabiy> !jdk
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <Trax> anyone know how to fix X, after installing nvidia drivers that won't uninstall becuase it can't find the old kernal source? shows compiled kernal 9631 and drivers 9755
[05:59] <vox754> cac__, please don't rant here. Support for devices and printers depends mostly on manufacturers
[06:00] <jjlee> is libdvdcss2 &c. available from a repository again?  If so, which one?
[06:00] <Sergo> demon_spork : Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[06:00] <demon_spork> hmm
[06:00] <MusashiX90> I just used usermod without looking further into it, and as a result, it removed me from every group I was previously in, causing me not to be able to use "sudo" and "gksudo". Is there any way I can restore those groups I was removed from?
[06:00] <stefg> Trax: what did you do beforehand?
[06:00] <demon_spork> !kernel-sources
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel-sources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <demon_spork> !kernel-source
[06:00] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[06:00] <postmodern> does ubuntu come with ppp out of the box?
[06:00] <Sergo> the ubuntu has detected this driver
[06:00] <vbabiy> !java
[06:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:00] <airtonix> cac__: and when you gt your next 2nd hand computer that has an unknown 3dcard...what website will you goto for the drivers?
[06:00] <cac__> but ubuntu staff should include lexmark drivers
[06:01] <Hattori> how to reload the /etc/fstab things?
[06:01] <airtonix> cac__: and your dinner too?
[06:01] <Hattori> without reboot
[06:01] <StoneNote> cac__, we're not staff. we're just a bunch of people who use ubuntu
[06:01] <airtonix> cac__: go and search for use on cups
[06:01] <postmodern> !ppp
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <cac__> I see, I talk about them
[06:01] <stefg> cac__: lexmark isn't linux-friendly... so it's lexmark, not the /ubuntu-staff/.. Call lexmark and complain
[06:01] <cac__> not about you
[06:01] <mistersir> anyone know how to make my sound start working again?
[06:01] <decade_> irc.macspeak.net
[06:01] <airtonix> cac__: cups is a unix printing service
[06:01] <Trax> stefg: not entirley sure, i messed around with synaptic a bit trying to get drivers to display proper resolution through kvm and ended up running nvidia drivers after that didn't help
[06:01] <Hattori> what's the package that enable SMB mount?
[06:01] <decade_> server irc.macspeak.net
[06:01] <Tom47> !sound
[06:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:01] <orbin> jjlee: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:02] <mistersir> when i try to play something in xmms it says please check that your soundcard is configured properly you have the correct output plugin selected no other program is blocking the soundcard
[06:02] <mistersir> it was working fine lastnight
[06:02] <mistersir> firefox also plays no sound
[06:02] <stefg> Trax: how did you install the nvidia-drivers? apt-get or nvidia-installer?
[06:02] <Sergo> =[
[06:02] <jjlee> orbin: I thought he'd given up maintaining that repository, though?
[06:02] <decade_> anybody know where i could find the osx86 project
[06:02] <Trax> nvidia installer
[06:02] <mistersir> decade_, apple.com
[06:02] <Hattori> how to reload the /etc/fstab things without rebooting?
[06:03] <mistersir> anyone know how to make my sound start working again?
[06:03] <mistersir> when i try to play something in xmms it says please check that your soundcard is configured properly you have the correct output plugin selected no other program is blocking the soundcard
[06:03] <kingjere> I'm trying to use sed. one part of the doc says -i means case insensitive. another says it means edit files in place. Am I missing something?
[06:03] <mistersir> it was working fine lastnight
[06:03] <vox754> !repeat | mistersir
[06:03] <airtonix> Hattori: sudo uount -a && sudo mount -a
[06:03] <ubotu> mistersir: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:03] <stefg> Trax: hmmm.... s NVIDIA-blabal.sh -uninstall doesn't work?
[06:03] <xXSive> screencast software?  (had a link but lost it.. never had a chance to use it)
[06:03] <airtonix> Hattori: sorry sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[06:03] <Hattori> airtonix: thanks
[06:04] <Tom47> Decade_ a quick google revealed http://www.osx86project.org/
[06:04] <orbin> jjlee: *shrug*.  link from ubotu's !libdvdcss2 factoid.  can't comment on how recent the package actually would be.
[06:04] <airtonix> Hattori: or there may be a way through using sudo /etc/init.d/fstab restart....who knows
[06:04] <Hattori> airtonix: it says devices busy
[06:04] <fenrig> hi
[06:04] <airtonix> Hattori: yep you'll get that
[06:04] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298/
[06:04] <fenrig> does there exist a sort of sidebar for linux
[06:04] <Trax> stefg: i will try that and see i had to live boot it to get here
[06:05] <Agony> OK, so here's my problem, I recently upgraded from Edgy to Feisty, and now sound does not work. Attempting to play any sound results in the error: "Could not open resource for writing."
[06:05] <orbin> fenrig: gdesklets perhaps
[06:05] <airg> i have installed 7.04 lately and i was wondering if automatic-removal of unneeded packages was added to Synaptic or there is any way to automatically remove unneeded packages?
[06:05] <stefg> Trax: edit your xorg.conf on the installed system and replace nvidia with nv, so you have at least a working X
[06:05] <Tom47> !sound > agony
[06:05] <sivaji> Agony open with terminal
[06:06] <fenrig> no i dont mean gdesklet or screenlet (already tried that)
[06:06] <sivaji> pel help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298/
[06:07] <MusashiX90> Could anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433825
[06:07] <reubs> stefg:  sorry im getting db errors when trying to use pastebin, maybe it will have to be another day. i will look into the firmware tho. thank you for your help
[06:07] <KNY> hey, what's that application to edit the menus? I'm completely blanking right now
[06:08] <KNY> MusashiX90, you could boot using a knoppix or similar and edit the config files, maybe
[06:08] <Tom47> MusashiX90: if you boot into the recovery option that will give you a root session
[06:08] <sacater> okies
[06:08] <MusashiX90> Okay, thanks.
[06:09] <Agony> sivaji: OK, I have a Terminal open...
[06:09] <KNY> MusashiX90, be more careful in the future :) that's like running chmod -x /usr/bin/chmod
[06:09] <KNY>  :)
[06:09] <Micieri> I downloaded PartitionMagic, so now what? What type should I make it?
[06:10] <MusashiX90> lol yea, I thought it would just add me to the group, not remove me from all others.
[06:10] <nonlinear> can anyone help me with a boot prob "ata1.oo: SET of native returned 0, expected xxxxx"
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: did you get Ubuntu running?
[06:10] <KNY> Micieri, ext2 or ext3
[06:10] <jimenycricket> Need some adive...my brother, who is in Iraq and has no internet access, has been having issues with Windows Vista and I have convinced him to give Ubunut a try.  I'm downloading the repositories to DVD for him, but of course he'll want DVD and MP3 playback.   He has never used Linux before and I'd like to set hime up with a Automatix-type program to install those capabilities.  Any pointers?
[06:10] <sivaji> some vlc or whatever u have and try to play some vedio or audio file u can see missing plugins
[06:10] <jimenycricket> Ubuntu
[06:11] <SockToy> StoneNote: All working! Thanks ;-P
[06:11] <sivaji> Agony opne some vlc or whatever u have and try to play some vedio or audio file u can see missing plugins
[06:11] <KNY> jimenycricket, Feisty will install restricted codecs automatically. Plus. Automatix is a bad idea
[06:11] <jimenycricket> KNY Awesome, I was not aware that Feisty did that.  Thank you!
[06:12] <Tom47> jimenycricket: if its feisty you are sending him then all he needs to do is include the medibuntu repository and the apt-get install the codecs and dvdcss
[06:12] <mbdl> hello everyone! i have a question does the new 7.04 ubuntu support viacom64 unicrome graphics
[06:12] <sgtmattbaker> hello I installing Feisty (command line version) from the alternate CD and I want to install X to have a minimal GUI.  I did sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg and a lot of the dependencies didnt check out.
[06:12] <GrueTamer> sgtmattbaker: is icewm ok?
[06:12] <Agony> sivaji: No, there's no missing plug-ins, sound doesn't work for anything, even system sound doesn't work.
[06:13] <jimenycricket> Tom47, thanks!
[06:13] <mbdl> can anyone help me?
[06:13] <demon_spork> how do I install the ubuntu "libc development package"??????
[06:13] <Trax> stefg: you still around?
[06:13] <larson9999> on this machine i can use the usb joystick just fine.  but my son's account can't.  is there a group i need to add him to or something?
[06:13] <sgtmattbaker> GrueTamer: i am going to install fluxbox
[06:13] <stefg> Trax: yes
[06:13] <Sergo> !pastebin
[06:13] <Sergo> !paste
[06:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <timmi> is it possible that when i move the beryl-cube, that it zoomes out a bit more?
[06:14] <Micieri> KNY - Yeah it says EXT2 recommended
[06:14] <GrueTamer> sgtmattbaker: alright
[06:14] <stefg> !beryl | timmi
[06:14] <ubotu> timmi: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:14] <sivaji> Agony  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:14] <usser> demon_spork: just do sudo apt-get install libc6
[06:14] <Trax> stefg: where would NVIDIA-blabal.sh be located?
[06:14] <KNY> Micieri, don't worry about what it is; Ubuntu can format it for you anyway
[06:14] <usser> demon_spork: or just sudo apt-get libc
[06:14] <GrueTamer> sgtmattbaker: i personally recommend that you install from the minimal cd, its been easier for me
[06:14] <GrueTamer> but...
[06:14] <Omniwolf> hey all, my question: I have feisty fawn kubutu 64bit, rosegarden doesn't show up on the adept installer, is it even available for 64 bit?
[06:14] <GrueTamer> sudo apt-get update
[06:15] <GrueTamer> sudo apt-get install xorg xterm gdm fluxbox menu firefox gksu synaptic
[06:15] <Hamm_laptop> is there a terminal command to find out what my local ip is?  like   ipconfig in DOS
[06:15] <xst> Where do I find acroread to ubuntu?
[06:15] <GrueTamer> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:15] <stone_> hey.how to change PATH variable( for example i want to run script which isn't situated in my current directory) ??
[06:15] <LjL> Hamm_laptop: ifconfig
[06:15] <GrueTamer> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:15] <GrueTamer> that should do it
[06:15] <Tom47> Hamm_laptop: ifconfig is yr friend
[06:15] <Hamm_laptop> ty
[06:16] <Omniwolf> yup ifconfig rox
[06:16] <demon_spork> usser, that doesn
[06:16] <demon_spork> 't work
[06:16] <stefg> Trax... that was a med up generic name :-) the Nvidia-Installer is normally called  like NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run ... it is where you downloaded it too
[06:16] <mistersir> does anyone know how to troubleshoot sound that stopped working overnight?
[06:16] <usser> demon_spork: sudo apt-get install libc6 gotta work
[06:16] <usser> demon_spork: what does it say
[06:16] <stone_> LjL: hey.how to change PATH variable( for example i want to run script which isn't situated in my current directory) ??
[06:16] <Tom47> !sound > mistersir
[06:16] <demon_spork> well, that isn't what you said
[06:16] <Micieri> KNY - But I been having problems getting onto Ubuntu..
[06:16] <demon_spork> you just said sudo apt-get libc
[06:16] <KNY> Micieri, ah, nevermind then :)
[06:17] <demon_spork> I figured I needed the install part, just not hte 6 at the end :(
[06:17] <usser> demon_spork: i said this earlier, before that
[06:17] <mistersir> Tom47, yea, thanks.
[06:17] <Micieri> D:
[06:18] <ffm> My tor is runnign in daemon mode, and I cannot see what it is doign. It isnt workign!
[06:18] <LjL> stone_: well you can just run the script using the full path, for starters ( sh /path/to/script). otherwise,  export PATH=$PATH:/new/path  to add a path temporarily. to make it permanent, edit .bashrc i suppose. anyway adding weird paths is not really a good idea -- if you need to use programs/scripts that are not in the repos, put them in /usr/local/bin
[06:18] <demon_spork> I need the libc header files installed on my system to install the nforce drivers, can anyone tell me how to install these?
[06:18] <weltall> sorry, i've a strange problem with nfs since i had upgraded to feisty. I'm currently exporting some file system (ntfs with ntfs-3g) but i can't access them from the other host i can only access / . i've also tried making a tmpfs filesystem and exporting it still the same error
[06:18] <LjL> !build-essential > demon_spork    (demon_spork, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:18] <weltall> this is the line it's equal to the one of the / export but still it doesn't work: /media/hdb1 192.168.1.1/24(rw,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
[06:18] <stefg> Trax: so you do the same thing that you did  to install the driver, but add the uninstall parameter... sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run --uninstall
[06:19] <LjL> demon_spork: besides, nfoce is an nvidia graphics card? doesn't the normal driver work?
[06:19] <Trax> stefg says: invalid option --u
[06:19] <StoneNote> demon_spork, sudo apt-get install libc6-dev  or sudo apt-get install libc6-dev-amd64   depending on your system
[06:19] <stone_> LjL : ok thank you.
[06:19] <stefg> Trax: maybe ist's just a single -
[06:19] <Agony> OK, so here's my problem, I recently upgraded from Edgy to Feisty, and now sound does not work. Attempting to play any sound results in the error: "Could not open resource for writing."
[06:19] <Trax> i did it as a single it still kicks the --
[06:19] <c> opiexgitu
[06:19] <Omniwolf> where did the package search section go in ubuntu.com
[06:19] <LjL> !medibuntu > xst    (xst, see the private message from Ubotu) there's a package here
[06:19] <vicente> hi guys, I have a Notebook Acer Aspire 3620 with Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) and de sound stoped without reason... I need a Help...
[06:20] <LjL> Omniwolf: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:20] <sgtmattbaker> hello I installing Feisty (command line version) from the alternate CD and I want to install X to have a minimal GUI.  I did sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg and a lot of the dependencies didnt check out.  what do I do to install X
[06:20] <vicente> I'm from Brazil...
[06:20] <Omniwolf> nice
[06:20] <Trax> tried as a -- as well and still same
[06:20] <Tom47> !sound > Agony have you been through that stuff?
[06:20] <d1c0> sound
[06:20] <vicente> and I use Feisty
[06:20] <d1c0> !sound
[06:20] <Omniwolf> thanks LjL
[06:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:20] <GrueTamer> sgtmattbaker: look up in the log, i told you how to get x, fluxbox, and a some apps
[06:20] <GrueTamer> it should work
[06:20] <n3rdism> im hooking up my ubuntu box to a 1366x768 lcd tv, and ive set the resolutions in xorg.conf to include that mode; it still is only showing the default resolutions in preferences > screen resolution. even when i change xorg.conf to include only the one mode i need.. 1366x768. can anyone help?
[06:20] <afonit> how do you do this:  system > administration > network, 'wired network' does not show up, how do you add it, I do not see a place to add this?
[06:20] <misfitx7> !sound
[06:20] <Trax> stefg: how do i scroll back up if --help goes past screen length?
[06:21] <stefg> Trax: generally in Unix the long commands have a -- (--uninstall), the short ones have a single - (-u)
[06:21] <usser> n3rdism: did u restart xserver?
[06:21] <n3rdism> yes
[06:21] <vicente> thanks ubotu
[06:21] <n3rdism> @usser tried restarting all together
[06:21] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597829 <-- Help if you can
[06:21] <Trax> stefg: i seem to have gotten it :)
[06:21] <usser> n3rdism: well seeing how it is not a standard resolution at all my guess is xorg just ignores thinking it may hurt your monitora
[06:22] <usser> n3rdism: but thats just me
[06:22] <n3rdism> im also seeing other xorg.conf's in my /etc/X11/ such as xorg.conf~ and xorg.conf~~ so i changed those too
[06:22] <n3rdism> usser: ohhh, that sucks so bad
[06:22] <usser> n3rdism: those are backup files
[06:22] <usser> n3rdism: the only one u need is xorg.conf
[06:22] <xst> LjL: Thanks
[06:23] <darkstar> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:23] <darkstar> err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
[06:23] <darkstar> can somebody help me fix this?
[06:23] <n3rdism> usser: is there anyway i can get it to accept the resolution?
[06:23] <vox754> !thanks | vicente
[06:23] <ubotu> vicente: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:23] <stefg> n3rdism: if it's not a predefined option during sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you will need a custopm modeline in your xorg.conf... only deleting reso's won't help
[06:23] <afonit> does anyone know how to add "wired network" or "wireless connection" in the network settings dialog box?  I don't see any options in there to add it
[06:24] <stefg> n3rdism: http://zaph.com/Modeline/
[06:25] <xy> hi all, i have installed Ubuntu 7.04 a few days ago and a problem occured ... nautilus stopped loadibng windows config when i log
[06:25] <LPhas> hi, isn't this http://hpaste.org/1714 something terribly wrong?
[06:26] <xy> anyone knows hoe to fic that?
[06:26] <Trax> stefg: i uninstalled  drivers and rebooted, i am still getting an X error on boot but this one is different. says: (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available.
[06:27] <IdleOne> Trax, in xorg you need to change the nvidia setting back to default if your not using nvidia
[06:27] <Trax> IdleOne: can you tell me how?
[06:28] <stefg> Trax: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf .... find the line which says: Driver "nvidia" and change that to "nv" ... then you are back on he opensource driver, have a working X and you can start over the proper way
[06:28] <IdleOne> Trax, same way you changed it to nvidia when you installed the drivers
[06:28] <jonah> hey guys, all my files have gone weird and no files seem to know which apps to open in anymore
[06:28] <chalupah> installing 7.04, I get to "Adding Live Session User..." and then I get a black screen with a blinking cursor - anyone help me out?
[06:28] <jonah> they were fine yesterday so dunno what happened
[06:29] <xy> hi all, i have installed Ubuntu 7.04 a few days ago and a problem occured ... nautilus stopped loadibng windows config when i log
[06:29] <teicah> userA (in gnome session) wants 2launch gedit as userB from the gnome-terminal, what is the commando?
[06:29] <xy> anyone knows how to fix that?
[06:29] <teicah> commando=command .. thanks
[06:29] <Gaspro> !ftpd
[06:29] <sethk> teicah, sudo
[06:29] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[06:30] <sethk> teicah, sudo with no user name means run as root, but su means set user, and su and sudo can be used with any user
[06:30] <usser> Gaspro:
[06:30] <n3rdism> stefg: im not sure i know all of the stuff its asking for to create a new mode
[06:30] <usser> Gaspro: theres only one ftpd and its vsftpd =)
[06:30] <stefg> !fixres | n3rdism
[06:30] <ubotu> n3rdism: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:30] <stone_> does anyone know how to remove last line of text in the file??
[06:31] <berent> when i try connecting to google talk using gaim i am getting no tls/ssl support found
[06:31] <berent> when i try connecting to google talk using gaim i am getting no tls/ssl support found
[06:32] <afonit> if your network card hardware is not automatically recognized, how do you add it into ubuntu?
[06:32] <IdleOne> berent, think you need to install ssl support for google talk in gaim but not sure how that is done. try #gaim or the gaim website for support
[06:32] <berent> join #gaim
[06:32] <Trax> stefg & IdleOne: Thank you both for your help :) that has me up :)
[06:32] <IdleOne> add a /
[06:32] <Micieri> afonit - Get the driver from the website on another computer, and email it to yourself or something
[06:32] <n3rdism> thanks for the help stefg and usser
[06:32] <mario> Hi everyone!
[06:32] <IdleOne> Trax, your welcome
[06:32] <teicah> userA (in gnome session) wants 2launch gedit as userB from the gnome-terminal, what is the command? thanks
[06:32] <Meshezabeel> When I put the mouse over the date/time it says "Click to view your appointments and tasks", how do I add appointments and tasks? When I double click on a date it tries to run the setup for the evolution mail program. What I really want to do is have my computer remind me of events a few days before they happen, is this possible?
[06:32] <afonit> Micieri - ok, but how do you add it into the 'network settings' dialog, I don't see an add button in there
[06:33] <Micieri> It should add itself once you installed it..
[06:33] <afonit> micieri, thank you
[06:33] <usser> Meshezabeel: try knotes
[06:33] <Micieri> Otherwise you could check out the forums
[06:33] <Trax> so i should do apt-get to update teh nvidia drivers?
[06:33] <usser> Meshezabeel: if u using kubuntu
[06:33] <IdleOne> teicah, the datwe/time uses evolution calendar to set tasks
[06:33] <stefg> Trax: right... see !nvidia
[06:33] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[06:34] <ffm> My tor is runnign in daemon mode, and I cannot see what it is doign. It isnt workign!
[06:34] <usser> Meshezabeel: theres gotta be a similar pgm in gnome
[06:34] <ffm> My tor is runnign in daemon mode, and I cannot see what it is doign. It isnt workign!
[06:34] <Meshezabeel> usser: nope, using edubuntu
[06:34] <nuu> !nvidia | Trax
[06:34] <ubotu> Trax: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:34] <ffm> Meshezabeel, please ask in #edubuntu then.
[06:34] <Meshezabeel> ffm, edubuntu=ubuntu (with added educational progs)
[06:34] <ModoBasico> hi! do you know how to crop a list of pictures in the same way (same sarting point, heigth and weight)?
[06:35] <MrCocaine> #poland
[06:35] <stefg> !pl
[06:35] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:35] <MrCocaine> #ubuntu-pl
[06:35] <IndyGunFreak> Meshezabeel: but it has its own channel, why did you bother with edubunttu anyways?.. you could simply install what you want from the repos.
[06:35] <stefg> MrCocaine: try /j #ubuntu-pl :-)
[06:35] <compengi> !lb
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <MrCocaine> thanks stefg, long time i wasn't on irc :)
[06:36] <Meshezabeel> IndyGunFreak: oh sure, why always ask why I do things that don't pertain to my question, I have my reasons :)
[06:36] <IdleOne> MrCocaine, change your nick also. this is a family channel 
[06:36] <StoneNote> ffm, http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> Meshezabeel: well, seems a perfectly legitimate question if you ask me.... good luck
[06:37] <egarim> exist any add on that can read(voice in english) the objects of email with thunderbird ?
[06:37] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597829 <-- Help if you can D:
[06:37] <ffm> StoneNote, that didnt help. Also, I cannot find the logfile.
[06:38] <Meshezabeel> IndyGunFreak: ok, I work at a school and installed it as a distro in the lab, and can also give it to the students as a live cd with the progs they like, does this info help you answer my question?
[06:38] <MrCocaine> IdleOne, i don't planning anything bad, this is only nick :)
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> Meshezabeel: not really.. as it still doens't make much sense.. but good luck anyways
[06:39] <ph1zzle> hey all
[06:39] <B123> !torrents
[06:39] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[06:39] <GrueTamer> hi ph1zzle
[06:39] <LPhas> hey, anyone could please help me with ndiswrapper?
[06:39] <MrCocaine> hello phlzzle :)
[06:39] <GrueTamer> hi MrCocaine, thats an interesting name you have :)
[06:39] <zerokill88> anybody know the name of the java runtime enviroment for firefox?
[06:39] <ffm> StoneNote, that didnt help. Also, I cannot find the logfile.
[06:39] <zerokill88> the package name
[06:40] <Meshezabeel> IndyGunFreak: yeah, like I said, your question did not make much sense to begin with, if there wasn't a reason for edubuntu, the distro would not exist
[06:40] <ffm> !java | zerokill88
[06:40] <ubotu> zerokill88: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:40] <ph1zzle> My system running 7.04 seems to be trying to do a hibernate style image restore everytime I boot although I have never used hibernate and the disk it is looking for is a swap drive, anyways, is there a way I can disable this check?
[06:40] <zerokill88> thanks
[06:40] <StoneNote> ffm, your tor logs would be in /var/log/tor/ but you'd need to enable logging in your /etc/tor/torrc first
[06:40] <IndyGunFreak> Meshezabeel: want to go to distrowatch.org, and find how many distros "don't make sense", because they pretty much carbon copy something else?
[06:40] <ffm> zerokill88, also, irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox would help wou more.
[06:40] <MrCocaine> thanks GrueTamer :)
[06:40] <weltall> there is someone who can help me with nfs?
[06:41] <Meshezabeel> IndyGunFreak: just because you don't understand the reason, doesn't mean there isn't one
[06:41] <fgdsds> I need some help ... I like to test the web cam and thi micro of the grandmothers`sistter here and I  asking if someone may help me only add me in msn rna-msn@hotmail.com only to test
[06:42] <fgdsds> May someone ?
[06:42] <ph1zzle> um... so does anyone know where I disable hibernate checking on boot
[06:42] <ph1zzle> ?
[06:42] <ph1zzle> file ?
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> Meshezabeel: sure it does.
[06:42] <Meshezabeel> IndyGunFreak: if I take your suggestion with the live CD, I have to reinstall the programs into RAM everytime the computer boots the CD, now, that is pretty dumb when you can just get them all on one CD to begin wtih
[06:43] <Sourf> Has someone msn  to help me ?
[06:43] <shriphani> http://pastebin.ca/472477   ......... please look at that and tell me if you are thinking what i am thinking
[06:43] <hdxx> Sourf: you can ask here
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> Meshezabeel: bla bla bla bla bla, are you trying to convert me o rsomething?... i dropped tihs long ago.
[06:44] <Lord_Maynoth_42> anyone know where the automated bug submission tool is supposed to b I can't find it in the applications, places or system menu
[06:44] <Meshezabeel> IndyGunFreak: no, what are you on about, you are the one that started slamming my choice, it is my choice, so thanks drop it
[06:44] <shriphani> does anyone feel my fstab is borked ?
[06:44] <kintaro0e> hi guys...how can i install MS Communicator to my Feisty Fawn box? can i integrate it to gaim?
[06:44] <Sourf> Ihdxx its because I'm in grandmothers's sister house here and she told me that the web cam of her and the midrofone aren`t working
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> Meshezabeel: you're pretty sensitive, i bet your a great teacher
[06:44] <mario> !!!!!please, guys, I need some help with my graphics!!!!!
[06:44] <Sourf> I hdxx its because I'm in grandmothers's sister house here and she told me that the web cam of her and the midrofone aren`t working
[06:45] <Meshezabeel> IndyGunFreak: cool, glad you dropped it :)
[06:46] <mario>                                                                   Help, please
[06:46] <Sourf> hdxx could you ?
[06:46] <ekidd> Three cheers for the Ubuntu MythTV team!
[06:46] <hdxx> Sourf: can you tell me model of camera and mic
[06:46] <cotton> Is f/oss good?
[06:46] <KNY> cotton, yes
[06:46] <Sourf> fone clone
[06:46] <ixian_> hi, i'm having trouble writing to my ntfs drives.. i followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions but i can't write to either of them
[06:46] <cotton> !f/oss
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f/oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <Sourf> and the web cam the same
[06:47] <cotton> I hate you ubotu
[06:47] <Sourf> hdxx all are clone
[06:47] <hdxx> Sourf: ok wait
[06:48] <Sourf> only add me to taste here , I want to go home I'm so hungry :/    hdxx
[06:48] <Sourf> ;(
[06:48] <hdxx> where to add you? in msn?
[06:48] <Sourf> hdxx yeah !
[06:49] <hdxx> ust4s4@otmail.com
[06:49] <hdxx> ust4s4@hotmail.com
[06:49] <Ace2016> Hi all
[06:49] <Ace2016> does the ubuntu kernel already have the fbsplash kernel patch?
[06:49] <nic_> test
[06:50] <darkvador> hi
[06:50] <stefg> Ace2016: ubuntu uses usplash, so probably not
[06:50] <darkvador> does anybody knows how to make an external hd mount at the same location every time it's mounted
[06:50] <darkvador> ?
[06:50] <shriphani> darkvador, udev
[06:50] <reidbp> So.. I got my ATI drivers installed, edited xorg.conf so it has fglrx, and fglrxinfo shows my x800 xt ATI...  Everything appears ok, but Beryl will not work (reverts to Metacity) and WoW+Wine crashes now (before i at least had like 8 fps)... anyone got any ideas?
[06:51] <darkvador> thx shripani
[06:51] <shriphani> darkvador, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/06/how-to-always-mount-removable-drives-in-the-same-place-ubuntu-6061-610/
[06:51] <stefg> !beryl | reidbp
[06:51] <ubotu> reidbp: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:51] <darkvador> that's what i was looking for
[06:51] <reidbp> !beryl
[06:51] <shriphani> stefg, can you please look at this for me http://pastebin.ca/472477
[06:51] <mario> ANYONE, can someboby help me with my games? UI know they are working but I can't see the menus, some body told me it was because I couldn't handle "opengl textures"
[06:52] <darkvador> reidbp
[06:52] <Micieri|AFK> If anyone knows anything about booting then feel free to PM me..
[06:52] <reidbp> yep
[06:52] <darkvador> i think beryl doesn't work with proprietary driver
[06:52] <darkvador> at least not out of the box
[06:52] <reidbp> with the one from ATI site.. or you ubdate from ?
[06:52] <vox754> !nickspam > Micieri
[06:52] <reidbp> update*
[06:53] <darkvador> well... the proprietary one
[06:53] <stefg> shriphani: nothing suspicious afaics
[06:53] <darkvador> are you on feisty?
[06:53] <shriphani> stefg, /dev/sdx...... shouldnt they be /dev/hdx ?
[06:53] <willzzz> what's the ETA on the official pidgin in the repos?
[06:53] <bluefox83> is it possible to use nfs to share a cd/dvd burner?
[06:53] <reidbp> yes fiesty
[06:53] <stefg> !UUID | shriphani
[06:53] <ubotu> shriphani: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:54] <darkvador> well, fglrx is the proprietary driver
[06:54] <stefg> shriphani: ubuntu uses libata now, that means everything is emulated as scsi
[06:54] <bluefox83> !nfs
[06:54] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:54] <darkvador> it does not support aiglx
[06:54] <shriphani> ahh
[06:54] <darkvador> so no beryl out of the box on feisty
[06:54] <reidbp> can u pm me?
[06:54] <darkvador> but you can try setting it up with glx
[06:54] <usser> darkvador: u can always install xgl
[06:55] <callidusfox> Can someone please recommend a simple to use program to convert DVD to avi  ?
[06:55] <darkvador> yes xgl
[06:55] <stefg> darkvador: feisty has compiz installed, but not activated by default
[06:55] <darkvador> not glx, sorry :p
[06:55] <reidbp> hmm
[06:55] <mario>                      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!please, please, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i'm about to lose my mind
[06:55] <reidbp> k ill google glx see what i get :)
[06:55] <Sourf> thank you hdxx for your help ... thank you for trusting in me ! :D
[06:55] <Sourf> thank you hdxx for your help ... thank you for trusting in me ! :D
[06:55] <Kragnerac> :d
[06:56] <vox754> stefg, since when, the libata, 7.10? Is this Ubuntu specific or depends on the kernel?
[06:56] <Micieri> vox754 - but doesn't saying that command cause an un needed line too?
[06:56] <reidbp> hmm first one says glx for nvidia and fglrx for ati...
[06:56] <stefg> vox754: see the !UUID factoid link
[06:56] <usser> reidbp: not glx xgl
[06:56] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: are you still having issues?
[06:56] <Tom47> !patience
[06:56] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:56] <reidbp> so.. ati + xgl = working games and beryl :)?
[06:56] <Lord_Maynoth_42> um does anyone here know the command to launch the bug report tool
[06:56] <mario> does anyone know what in the world is opengltextures?
[06:56] <Lord_Maynoth_42> so I can create a launcher for it
[06:57] <Micieri> IndyGunFreak - Yes -_-
[06:57] <usser> reidbp: yep
[06:57] <reidbp> alllllright!
[06:57] <hdxx> reidbp: yes
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: whats the problem now?
[06:57] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597829
[06:57] <Micieri> You already asked me that in PM
[06:57] <Micieri> I told you, and you never replied
[06:57] <hdxx> reidbp: but ati drivers sux for linux :)
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: and you didn't answer..lol
[06:57] <reidbp> that blows
[06:57] <Micieri> I did
[06:57] <Micieri> I said about 7 lines of what was going on
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> it didn't come through..
[06:58] <vox754> mario, they are ... textures... some video drivers simply don't work well, for instance some via drivers, and that's it.
[06:58] <callidusfox> Can someone please recommend a simple to use program to convert DVD to avi  ?
[06:58] <Micieri> Oh..
[06:58] <IndyGunFreak> youu must not be registered
[06:58] <Micieri> Nope I'm not
[06:58] <Micieri> o.o
[06:58] <bluefox83> how do i share a cd burner over an nfs network?
[06:58] <mario> vox754, how can I make that work?
[06:58] <usser> hdxx: thereae no alternative oss driver is damn slow
[06:58] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: did you try the alternate install CD?
[06:58] <bluefox83> callidusfox, don't think there is one :(
[06:58] <usser> callidusfox: i use k3b, but that for kubuntu
[06:59] <Micieri> IndyGunFreak - Did you read the post?
[06:59] <IndyGunFreak> was just starting to.
[06:59] <Micieri> I was then told to download the text version installer, so I did that, booted, and it worked fine!
[06:59] <shriphani> stefg, so is this an explanation for the abscence of automount ?
[06:59] <bluefox83> usser, k3b is a burning app, since when can it convert dvd to avi?
[06:59] <Micieri> keep reading though
[06:59] <vox754> mario, unless your driver really supports them you can't do a thing, if you are a programmer you can mess with the code, reverse engineer and create drivers yourself
[06:59] <usser> bluefox83: i think since 1.0 release
[06:59] <usser> bluefox83: =)
[06:59] <os2mac> has anyone had any luck getting kmobile phonetools to connect to a motorola razr?
[07:00] <ixian_> hi, i'm having trouble writing to my ntfs drives.. i followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions but i can't write to either of them?
[07:00] <mario> vox754, i'll tell you my problem: i cannot play any 3d game because I don't see the menus, do you know anything about it"
[07:00] <shriphani> anyway thx a lot stefg gnite everyone
[07:00] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: thats wierd, alternate installer is usually gravy
[07:00] <IndyGunFreak> wonder whats causing it.
[07:00] <Micieri> Same :/
[07:00] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: and you're burning it slowly, correct?
[07:01] <Micieri> Sorry I forgot to mention my burning info.. I burned at maximum, 40x, 2x, 1x, and 3x, all with the same result
[07:01] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[07:01] <vox754> mario, I have read your problem and seems your driver simply doesn't support that. You may need to compile the latest DRM module, but you need to give info about your graphics card
[07:01] <Micieri> I know yeah :/
[07:01] <Micieri> And the unofficial channel people were close enough to experts
[07:01] <Micieri> =x
[07:01] <callidusfox> usser: k3b can rip dvd to avi ?!
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: where is the unofficial channel?
[07:02] <bluefox83> usser, how do i go about ripping a dvd? do i need to find out what video and audio files correspond or something?
[07:02] <Micieri> channels*
[07:02] <peepsalot> what is the GUI for configuring samba shares?  I think i used it before, but can't find it now
[07:02] <Micieri> just random ones on some servers..
[07:02] <weltall> someone can help me with nfs?
[07:02] <mario> vox754, can you help me with that? my card is a nvidia nv18, and the drivers seem to be installed
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: i see
[07:02] <GenNMX> peepsalot: SWAT
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: well, i wish i had an easy answer... doesnt make much sese.
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> sense
[07:03] <erstazi> what is a good online (free) service for uploading for images?
[07:03] <Micieri> :/
[07:03] <erstazi> imageshack.us?
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: what type of media are you burning to
[07:03] <Micieri> CD
[07:03] <Micieri> I tried a DVD too
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> CDR or CDRW
[07:03] <Micieri> CDR :P
[07:03] <Micieri> I'm not a total numb-nut
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol, hey thats not ovious to some people
[07:03] <Micieri> (:P)
[07:04] <peepsalot> GenNMX, samba web administration tool?  sounds like it is browser based, is there something GTK based?
[07:04] <weltall> can someone help me with nfs? i get access denied for all the mounted file system (ntfs/tmpfs) except for /. http://rafb.net/p/0Ked4y26.html
[07:04] <vox754> mario, I don't have that experience since I lack nvidia and my current card doesn't support 3D anyway, so my suggestion is just to browse the forums and find the trick
[07:04] <GenNMX> peepsalot: Google samba+gtk
[07:04] <GenNMX> peepsalot: SWAT is the official GUI by the Samba team, though.
[07:04] <Micieri> I can only think it's the hard drive, but then again, why doesn't the CD boot?
[07:04] <mario> vox754, so you can not play 3d games anyway"
[07:04] <peepsalot> GenNMX, do I need a http server for that?
[07:04] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: well, that could be any number of reasons
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: have you tried another download source/
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> like a different mirror maybe
[07:05] <GenNMX> peepsalot: No, of course not. Its just local webpages stored on your computer.
[07:05] <vox754> mario, I cannot even run screensavers. Who knows, maybe you are using and old driver, get a newer one?
[07:05] <jordan_> Hey guys, my memory will constantly fill up to 100% before using a page swap through normal usage.  Is this normal?  7.04 w/ 2gb ram
[07:05] <mario> vox754, how can i do that, because it seems i have the latest driver?
[07:05] <peepsalot> GenNMX, ok i'll try that first
[07:05] <GenNMX> peepsalot: Webpages are files, you can store and open webpages on your computer. You just need a httpd (http server as you call it) to show the files to the outside world.
[07:05] <fdoving> jordan_: how do you check this?
[07:06] <peepsalot> GenNMX, but you need server side scripting to make them do anything useful
[07:06] <Micieri> IndyGunFreak - Are you implying that Ubuntu is providing faulty downloads o.o?
[07:06] <jordan_> fdoving: the little resource applet
[07:06] <vox754> jordan_, yes, Linux uses as much memory as possible which is a good thing
[07:06] <Kim^J> Hey all! Need help with installing VMware, get this: http://pastebin.ca/472489
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: no.. not at all.
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> just try downloading from a different mirror.
[07:06] <Micieri> Anyway I don't see why that would be a problem.. no one else has seemed to of had this problem before
[07:06] <jordan_> vox754 but then why is it using 100% after a while with 0 user programs running
[07:06] <Micieri> Oh right I know what you mean, and yes
[07:06] <Micieri> I tried 2 UK ones
[07:06] <GenNMX> peepsalot: SWAT uses client-side scripting -- Javascript, CGI, etc.
[07:06] <stefg> !vmware
[07:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: well, iv'e had installs freeze halfway through on my laptop plenty of times, but the Alt. install CD always worked fine
[07:07] <Fosters> have anyone installed steam & hl2 to ubuntudoes it work
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <peepsalot> CGI is server side AFAIK
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <vox754> mario, I tell you, I don't know since I haven't messed with nvidia, but browse the forums
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <FocusRite> anyone here use LVM ?
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <fdoving> jordan_: i'm not familiar with that (i use kubuntu), if you have the universe repository enabled, you can install the 'htop' package. it's a terminal application, but it's very good for memory and resource things.
[07:07] <Kim^J> Thansk stefg
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <Micieri> the alt CD crashes.. the normal install doesn't load
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <Tom47> erstazi: i am evaluating photobucket just now
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <fdoving> !ops | tracnar
[07:07] <ixian_> hi, i'm having trouble writing to my ntfs drives.. i followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions but i can't write to either of them?
[07:07] <Tracnar> 1
[07:07] <ubotu> tracnar: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[07:07] <Kim^J> Tracnar: DIE
[07:07] <GenNMX> peepsalot: OK, maybe not CGI then. It mostly uses Javascript.
[07:07] <mario> vox754, thanks anyway
[07:07] <jordan_> fdoving: thanks
[07:07] <stefg> Kim^J: you'll need the any-any-patch, then it#ll build
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: i have no idea... what brand of media?
[07:08] <Kim^J> stefg: Ah
[07:08] <Micieri> I told some of the guys that it's a crc error
[07:08] <erstazi> Tom47, yeah, I suggested imageshack.us for someone to upload a screen shot
[07:08] <Micieri> and they said it's the CD itself
[07:08] <Micieri> I tried 4 types
[07:08] <vox754> jordan_, Linux tries to cache a lot of memory so it can be read fast, which is a good thing
[07:08] <IndyGunFreak> wow.
[07:08] <MoebiusQ> hi
[07:08] <MoebiusQ> anyone can help me a bit in ipsec? i have a little complex problem :/
[07:08] <jordan_> vox754 ok, thanks for confirming that for me
[07:08] <Micieri> Phillips, Traxware, maxell, and Traxdata
[07:09] <tyrion> i have a failing External USB HDD. I've tried pretty much everything to get it working but it not working. i need to grab as much data from it be fore i send it back to the manufacturere, but rsync is throwing a pile of errors and not working. is there any other way to grab dat aoff the drive? http://1t2.us/749
[07:09] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: Seems Phillips and Maxwell would be fine, never heard of hte other two.. I use Sony w/o issue.
[07:09] <Micieri> :/
[07:09] <Micieri> And the guys said the burning program might be a bit faulty..
[07:09] <Micieri> but I used the one Ubuntu gave me, and another weird one
[07:09] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: could be... what burning program?
[07:09] <Micieri> (same result)
[07:09] <vox754> jordan_, browse the web for Linux memory use, or something, there is a Gentoo page that somewhat explains it, and also how to set programs to use swap memory
[07:10] <Micieri> Then they said it's probably the writer itself
[07:10] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: wierd
[07:10] <Lilacor> some idiot tried to stop all norton antivirus programs as soon as I connected to the net using my WWAN card.
[07:10] <Micieri> But I've burned movies and music, without problems
[07:10] <Micieri> :/
[07:10] <ixian_> can anyone tell me what's wrong with this fstab entry? "/dev/sdb1 /media/Stuff ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0" i want to be able to write to that partition but write isn't working
[07:11] <Lilacor> too bad it for him linux doesn't use antivirus
[07:11] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: i don't think its the drive...
[07:11] <Micieri> What could it be then?
[07:11] <Micieri> Nothing else ANYONE can think of..
[07:11] <Micieri> :/ ..
[07:11] <IndyGunFreak> wel, obviously, somethign iwith your PC isn't jiving.
[07:12] <Micieri> Butttttttttttttttttttttttttt, the LiveCD that my friend requested worked fine
[07:12] <sethk> Micieri, try reducing the burn speed
[07:12] <islan> great use of technical terms there, IndyGunFreak ~_^
[07:12] <rukuartic> Well thats frusterating... The Library's decided to block me from sshing into my box at home. Any ideas folks?
[07:12] <Micieri> sethk - Sorry I forgot to mention my burning info.. I burned at maximum, 40x, 2x, 1x, and 3x, all with the same result
[07:12] <mehmet_> slm
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> islan: lol, thx
[07:12] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597829 <-- Help if you can D:
[07:12] <islan> mmm, jargon
[07:12] <StoneNote> Kim^J, http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=512232
[07:12] <stefg> ixian_: is the ntfs partiton clean? check dmesg and Mount, if the drive is mounted r/w, or if an 'unclean' error make sthe system mount it readonly for safety reasons
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: have you tried to install any other distros... and been successful
[07:12] <islan> let's see here...
[07:12] <sethk> Micieri, do a command line burn and use the flag for maximum verbosity from cdrecord, which is  -vv  (that's dash v v)
[07:13] <hanses> can i download ndiswrapper with all the dependencies? i have to download ndiswrapper from windows and then boot into ubuntu where i install it. but then i need hundreds of denpendencies.
[07:13] <Micieri> Nope
[07:13] <Micieri> But Knoppix has booted fine from the DVD..
[07:13] <Micieri> and that was burned from this comp
[07:13] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: well, maybe see if xubuntu or Kubuntu will boot install?
[07:13] <IndyGunFreak> i don'tknow.
[07:13] <Micieri> I'm gonna try slax though
[07:13] <rukuartic> hanses: You should be able to... http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: slax?..lol...
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: do you have linux experience
[07:14] <Meshezabeel> who wanted to know how to rip a DVD?
[07:14] <Micieri> IndyGunFreak - Yeah that's the problem though -_- I'm not made of spare CD's
[07:14] <Jayson_> !flash64
[07:14] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:14] <mario> hello, can somebody help me with my 3d games menus???????????????????????
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: lol
[07:14] <Micieri> No I have literally 0 experiance with linux
[07:14] <islan> Micieri, and how did you burn your livecd iso?
[07:14] <Micieri> I've used 6 CD's so far
[07:14] <Micieri> With a burner? D:
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: no offense, but stay away from Slackware... its a great distro, but it does require a bit of linux know how to get things done.
[07:14] <Tom47> lotsa beer coasters
[07:14] <islan> mario, cut down on the ?'s and maybe I will
[07:14] <Micieri> I actually burned the ISO image, if that's what you're asking
[07:15] <islan> Micieri, but how did you burn it/
[07:15] <islan> ?
[07:15] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: well, burning the iso is the easy part.
[07:15] <islan> program?  speed?
[07:15] <Micieri> I have experience with computers.. just not linux
[07:15] <IndyGunFreak> islan: we've been over that, he appears to be doing everything right.
[07:15] <islan> okay, sorry for being the late comer :P
[07:15] <hanses> rukuartic: thx ill try
[07:15] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: well, "computer experience" won't really help you through an etirely new OS>
[07:15] <vox754> Micieri, please, you are flooding the channel with your short phrases... if you want to free your anger please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <islan> has he checked the md5checksum?
[07:15] <Meshezabeel> Well, whoever it was: to rip a dvd  to avi etc.: http://www.acaciaclose.co.uk/36551/123509.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*
[07:15] <Micieri> programs - infra recorder + CDBurnerXP speed - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597829
[07:16] <pharsalus> What is the open source philosophy?
[07:16] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: under windows, i used Deepburn... i'mnot sure this is a software issue though
[07:16] <ixian_> stefg, i don't see anything about 'unclean', and mount says this : /dev/sdb1 on /media/Stuff type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[07:16] <kekos> hi, somebody knows where can I download windows fundamentals from?
[07:16] <islan> even if he did everything right, the burn can still go wrong
[07:17] <mario> islan, man, I'v been here for hours trying to get some help but it's difficult, no one seems to be able to give me a solution
[07:17] <islan> sometimes it doesn't even work with certain hardware
[07:17] <rukuartic> kekos: What do you mean? Do you want to run windows programs on Linux?
[07:17] <stefg> ixian_: ok, are you a member of the fuse and plugdev group ?
[07:17] <vox754> !foss > pharsalus
[07:17] <Micieri> It can't be a software issue, I've used 2 different programs, with the same result of course
[07:17] <IndyGunFreak> islan: yeah, but in most instances of finicky hardware, the alt. install will work fine, and he's having issues wiht it also.
[07:17] <kekos> no, I want to run windows in linux
[07:17] <Jay2> which mailing list is good for support?
[07:17] <Mohd> How can i use wine? I just installed it.
[07:17] <islan> mhmm
[07:17] <jrib> !wine > Mohd (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:17] <Mohd> Kekos: You mean stimulate windows on Linux?
[07:17] <rukuartic> kekos: Then you're going to be interested in something called "VMWare"
[07:17] <usser> Mohd: first u run winecfg from the console
[07:17] <jughead> mario:  what card do you hav?
[07:17] <ixian_> stefg, actually nevermind, it appearss to be working now, im not sure what i did though
[07:18] <Alsa> any one know how to get an intel prowireless ipw3945 wnic installed & running on ubuntu 7.04 , without being connected to the internet , i mean via downloaded files
[07:18] <Mohd> Usser: done.
[07:18] <islan> well if worse comes to worse he can just buy another copy of the LiveCD
[07:18] <kekos> rukuartic - i'm using virtualbox
[07:18] <islan> they certainly are cheap enough
[07:18] <usser> Mohd: that will create a .wine directory in your home folder
[07:18] <islan> mario, check PM
[07:18] <Mohd> Usser: Okay? Then?
[07:18] <kekos> rukuartic - but I think i need the windows fundamentals
[07:18] <Alsa> i only can connect wirelessly to the internet , so i am connected via windows atm
[07:18] <serious_return> hello every body
[07:18] <kekos> rukuartic - to install it
[07:18] <rukuartic> kekos: Ok that works I suppose. You'll probably need a windows CD and a key. You can't just download windows fundamentals
[07:18] <vox754> stefg, oh yeah, I read, so libata is used since edgy, I guess it is stable now
[07:18] <jrib> serious_return: hi, welcome
[07:18] <serious_return> i'v a problem
[07:18] <Micieri> I'm 15.. I don't have money. Although I requested 3 CD's
[07:18] <usser> Mohd: then u can run windows pgrms like this wine "C:\pgm\pgm.exe
[07:18] <serious_return> can you solve it for me
[07:18] <jrib> !ask | serious_return
[07:18] <ubotu> serious_return: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:18] <jughead> Alsa, are you on a laptop?
[07:18] <mario> jughead, nvidia nv18, my drivers are all installed, the sound goes normally but I can't see the menus, when I hit enter like crazy I can see the game "ppracer" but I can see no menus
[07:19] <jordan_> can you logout the user that you are in a SSH session with
[07:19] <Alsa> any one know how to get an intel prowireless ipw3945 wnic installed & running on ubuntu 7.04 , without being connected to the internet , i mean via downloaded files
[07:19] <Mohd> Usser: That's all? I thought it was more complicated.
[07:19] <stefg> vox754: my understanding of 'stable' is a bit different :-\ ...
[07:19] <Micieri> Plus if it was a CD issue.. why does Knoppix work after I burned it?
[07:19] <Mohd> Usser: thanks alot Usser. Appreciated..
[07:19] <mario> islan, i don't see the PM i'm not registred
[07:19] <usser> Mohd: or from any directory on your comp, wine /media/cdrom/install.exe
[07:19] <Arvid> how do I install ruby 1.8.4, and make it my default ruby-version
[07:19] <kekos> ok, thanks. I'll try to find it
[07:19] <serious_return> when i open te synpatic package manager
[07:19] <Mohd> Thanks alot.
[07:19] <jughead> mario, nv18 is the core, what is the model of your graphics card.  we need more information.  who is the manufacturer?
[07:19] <rukuartic> Micieri: Are you marking the CD's as bootable when you burn them?
[07:19] <usser> Mohd: np
[07:19] <serious_return> this error message
[07:19] <serious_return> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:19] <serious_return> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[07:19] <ixian_> stefg, do you know how i can disable write to my XP drive though? the ntfs config tool doesn't seem to let me configure different partitiosn separately
[07:19] <Micieri> Yes, it auto marks it
[07:19] <ixian_> i only want write on my files partition ..
[07:19] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: thats why i'm curious about the mirror your downloading from.
[07:20] <rukuartic> Micieri: You don't want that option marked, I think
[07:20] <jrib> serious_return: what happens when you run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?
[07:20] <Micieri> Well I tried it 4 times.. and I'm doing what Ubuntu told me to
[07:20] <serious_return> its needs to be asuper user
[07:20] <james_> does anyone know about Xinerama at all? I have three monitors setup but only two are working, do the monitors have to be the same?
[07:20] <rukuartic> Micieri: Does ubuntu boot when you put the CD in?
[07:20] <islan> james_, can you receive PM's?
[07:20] <mario> jughead, what file would you like to see in the paste bin, I've posted them all
[07:20] <IndyGunFreak> rukuartic: yes
[07:20] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597829
[07:20] <IndyGunFreak> it freezes halfway through.
[07:20] <zedfloyd> im a newbie to ubuntu...is there a good 3d shooter for ubuntu
[07:20] <james_> islan, yes
[07:20] <IndyGunFreak> he apppears tob e burning the CD correctly..
[07:21] <Micieri> Yes it boots, then when I get to the option screen, and go to any of the options, it just says crc error
[07:21] <IndyGunFreak> !tremulous
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tremulous - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <jughead> mario - lspci maybe?
[07:21] <sn0> zedfloyd openarena is based on the quake 3 engine (great game there is a demo available)
[07:21] <psst> zedfloyd: I think there's doom and maybe quake
[07:21] <stefg> ixian_: you would need an explicit entry in /etc/fstab for that drive, with options ro,noauto and just ntfs (not ntfs-3g) as type. then it won't be handled by the automounter any more
[07:21] <Alsa> any one know how to get an intel prowireless ipw3945 wnic installed & running on ubuntu 7.04 , without being connected to the internet , i mean via downloaded files
[07:21] <sn0> openarena is opensource i believe, quake3 is a retail game but works great :)
[07:21] <rukuartic> Micieri: Sounds like you have a bad CD on your hands...
[07:21] <whyameye> serious_return: jrib's command, with sudo in it, will take care of the superuser issue.
[07:21] <Zaggynl^Laptop> openarena is open source
[07:21] <serious_return> hello
[07:21] <needhelp> Hi, I've just set up Apache. Now Im trying to get perl to work too.  If I try to run the .cgi file from localhost, the .cgi file shows up as a textfile instead of being executed. Help?
[07:21] <zedfloyd> im very new Sn0... how do i get it
[07:21] <rukuartic> Micieri: Or downloaded the file wrong.
[07:22] <needhelp> Hello serious_return!
[07:22] <usser> zedfloyd: enemy terrytory is a blast
[07:22] <Micieri> rukuartic - I tried 4 brands, I am downloading the right file, tried from 2 mirrors
[07:22] <Tom47> micieri i suspect the problem may lie with the hard disk
[07:22] <rukuartic> Micieri: Geez O_o thats weird...
[07:22] <zedfloyd> how do i get these games?
[07:22] <Micieri> Ok then, if it was the hard disk, why doesn't it boot?
[07:22] <ixian_> stefg,  can you please tell me exactly how id write it? this is the entry right now : /dev/sda1 /media/XP ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0
[07:22] <serious_return>   
[07:22] <Micieri> Yeah it's hella weird :/
[07:22] <serious_return>     
[07:22] <jrib> serious_return: english only here please
[07:22] <rukuartic> Micieri: You said your inittab wasn't working?
[07:22] <usser> zedfloyd: you can look for enemy territory on the web
[07:22] <islan> james_, you get my PM?
[07:22] <Micieri> So said the HD
[07:22] <sn0> zedfloyd tremulous you can install from synaptic or apt-get
[07:22] <serious_return> ok
[07:22] <usser> zedfloyd: there's a linux installer there somewhere
[07:22] <james_> no I didnt
[07:23] <serious_return> please help me
[07:23] <Pasteurized> hi all
[07:23] <stefg> !fstab | ixian_
[07:23] <ubotu> ixian_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:23] <achisholm> zedfloyd: just open up synaptic and search for openarena, its in there
[07:23] <serious_return> its my first time with linux
[07:23] <sn0> the same goes for openarena zedfloyd
[07:23] <jrib> serious_return: I did, you haven't answered my question
[07:23] <Micieri> But that HD is formatted now.. so the problem lies with getting it installed
[07:23] <islan> james_, no, you don't need them to be the same monitor
[07:23] <zedfloyd> ok
[07:23] <serious_return> ask me again
[07:23] <serious_return> plz
[07:23] <islan> james_, but you will probably need to specify the different models in xorg.conf
[07:23] <sn0> zedfloyd  3d games require opengl accelleration, so make sure that is enabled first :)
[07:23] <ziggy23> What is the best way to REinstall Ubuntu, leaving Windows intact?
[07:23] <rukuartic> Micieri: Try googling around for "missing inittab"
[07:23] <rukuartic> Micieri: If you can get booted into the LiveCD some how or another you might be able to fix it.
[07:23] <Pasteurized> I've enable 3D desktop on my new Feisty, but I cant see windows border anymore, any clue ?
[07:23] <Micieri> That might have been helpful 3 hours ago
[07:23] <rukuartic> Micieri: I know :(
[07:24] <james_> islan, I have, done it, but for some reason my 3rd monitor doesnt come up
[07:24] <mario> jughead, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19319/
[07:24] <rukuartic> Micieri: Sorry an, I gotta split.
[07:24] <islan> ziggy23, using any Ubuntu installation CD
[07:24] <stefg> ixian_: /dev/sda1 /media/XP ntfs defaults,noauto,ro 0 0
[07:24] <lbawinowns> Hello! I must ask, does the cd-dvd-burner application included burn an iso file flawlessly if I just drop an iso file in the window??
[07:24] <mario> jughead, anything else?
[07:24] <james_> it is an ati card, the other card is a matrox dual monitor card
[07:24] <usser> zedfloyd: http://returntocastlewolfenstein.filefront.com/file/Enemy_Territory;14408
[07:24] <Micieri> Actions > Burn Image, lbawinowns
[07:24] <islan> james_, have you specified all three monitors and screens?  I've only done it with two so far myself
[07:24] <Tom47> micieri it complains about crc check problems though and i suspect thats because you have a dodgy hard disk ..... i wuld spend some time in this area before assming further its a cd problem .... you seem to have exhausted that area
[07:24] <sn0> enemy territory is another great q3 based game :)
[07:24] <james_> islan, yes I have done it for all three
[07:24] <islan> james_, oh, you have two cards as well
[07:24] <Mohd> Usser: Are you there?
[07:24] <islan> james_, so you've done it before?
[07:25] <insom^> anyone ever attempt installing an xbox 360 pad in ubuntu?
[07:25] <james_> islan, no just been doing a lot of reading
[07:25] <jughead> mario - what issues are you having with the driver?
[07:25] <lbawinowns> Micieri - should I right click the iso u mean?
[07:25] <james_> islan, not with the three monitors that it
[07:25] <james_> is
[07:25] <Micieri> Tom47 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_redundancy_check
[07:25] <usser> Mohd: yep
[07:25] <Pasteurized> I've enable 3D desktop and Compiz  on my new Feisty, but I can't see windows border anymore, any clue ?
[07:25] <alencar> hello, BRAZIL?
[07:25] <gluttony> I am currently running Feisty Fawn, but this has been a problem that has followed me throughout upgrades. I have an insane amount of static coming out on top of pretty much any sound that tries to go through my speakers. People have told me to adjust my pcm levels, but the static stays until pcm is all the way down. one of my friends who uses ubuntu says it might be a problem with my built-in sound card. are there any other reasosn
[07:25] <gluttony> this could be cause?
[07:25] <Micieri> lbawinowns - Just look for an option to burn ISO image, or Burn Image
[07:25] <mario> jughead, is not the driver (or not that I know) the thing is I can't see no menus when I start 3d games like tremulous or ppracer,
[07:25] <james_> Pasteurized, log out then log back in
[07:26] <insom^> Pasteurized restart x
[07:26] <Micieri> There should be one with every burning program
[07:26] <Mohd> usser: I tried to open an .ExE file from my Linux file browser. It didn't work.
[07:26] <islan> james_, ah well, try to PM me a copy of your xorg.conf file (or, send me a link to its dump online)
[07:26] <Lilacor> usser: that's normal.
[07:26] <alsa2> any one know how to install ipw3945
[07:26] <james_> islan, ok hold on a sec
[07:26] <alsa2> on ubuntu 7
[07:26] <alsa2> without apt-get
[07:26] <demonspork> How do I kill the X server???
[07:26] <achisholm> pastreurized: ctrl+alt+ backspace will restart x, what happens after that?
[07:26] <Pasteurized> thanks james_ & insom^
[07:26] <usser> Mohd: it wont like so, but u can open with and choose wine as an app to open with
[07:26] <Lilacor> alsa2: I'm using that card right now.
[07:26] <Micieri> Tom47 - The HD has been formatted.. it wouldn't be a problem there
[07:26] <Micieri> And it won't even LOAD, even when I take the HD out it says the same thing
[07:26] <Mohd> Usser: Thanks again! your a life saver :D
[07:26] <Lilacor> alsa2: what OS are you using right now?
[07:27] <usser> Mohd: np
[07:27] <jughead> mario - what do you mean "no menus?"  Are the fonts missing or is the screen blank?
[07:27] <alsa2> im running windows
[07:27] <alsa2> i can only connect wirelessly
[07:27] <Pasteurized> achisholm: i'm gonna try
[07:27] <Lilacor> alsa2: huh? are you running windows XP?
[07:27] <zedfloyd> is there directX for linux?
[07:27] <usser> zedfloyd: no
[07:27] <Lilacor> zedfloyd: no
[07:27] <vox754> alsa2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361041
[07:27] <insom^> its called wine
[07:28] <usser> zedfloyd: and i thank god everyday for that
[07:28] <demonspork> How do I kill the X server???
[07:28] <insom^> that was an odd question
[07:28] <mayorbuttes> er
[07:28] <mario> jughead, in ppracer, for example, i can't see anything but some squares that I know is where the menus are, but there are no letters, and if i hit enter enough i can see the penguin
[07:28] <mayorbuttes> directx for linux isn't known as wine =/
[07:28] <egyn> Hi, i've upgraded to 7.04 and now "iface" is no longer a recognised command
[07:28] <Micieri> ! xserver
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <zedfloyd> that bad huh, wow
[07:28] <mayorbuttes> you're thinking openGL which is what linux uses.
[07:28] <egyn> any ideas?
[07:28] <demonspork> !xserver
[07:28] <alsa2> vox754 , i can see the driver installed but the problem is that i cant see it in the network adapters
[07:28] <lbawinowns> Hello guys, sombody noticed that no space is freed when u click delete button on a file in a drive, and it is not in the normal recycle bin...
[07:28] <Tom47> demonspork ctl alt backspace
[07:28] <Lilacor> alsa2 you don't have to use ndiswrapper for your car
[07:28] <mayorbuttes> dx is proprietary windows
[07:28] <Lilacor> d
[07:28] <usser> zedfloyd: its not bad directx is a piece of junk
[07:28] <bartzitz> hello, how to sync evolution mail on 2 boxes? 1 box periodically checks gmail account, i need this mail to be available on 2nd comp
[07:29] <islan> lbawinowns, view hidden files
[07:29] <zedfloyd> oh
[07:29] <mayorbuttes> usser: A piece of junk?
[07:29] <demonspork> Tom47, I don't want to restart it, I want to kill it and for it to stay dead
[07:29] <islan> lbawinowns, it could bit in a .Trash file
[07:29] <usser> mayorbuttes: yea, why?
[07:29] <mayorbuttes> usser: I think you mean openGL is a POS.
[07:29] <achisholm> demonspark: if you want you can open the system monitor and kill it through there but ctrl alt backspace should do it
[07:29] <usser> mayorbuttes: oh i beg to differ
[07:29] <lbawinowns> islan - hmm.. where are they then?
[07:29] <Tom47> demonspork you can boot in recovery mode
[07:29] <mayorbuttes> usser: I am interested. Why would you differ
[07:29] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: that depends on for what you're using it
[07:29] <islan> it would be in the directory you are deleting from
[07:29] <lbawinowns> islan - I'm beginner (aka noob) in Linux :p
[07:29] <alsa2> vox754 , that web didnt solve my problem
[07:29] <achisholm> system > administration > system monitor > processes
[07:29] <usser> mayorbuttes: dx is closed source for one
[07:29] <demonspork> I need to be out of X server to run a graphics driver installer for my card
[07:30] <islan> lbawinowns, go to View -> Show Hidden Files (or, hit Ctrl+H)
[07:30] <mario> jughead, any idea?
[07:30] <jughead> mario, which version of ubuntu are you useing, and which driver is loaded (check or post xorg.conf)
[07:30] <gluttony> I am currently running Feisty Fawn, but this has been a problem that has followed me throughout upgrades. I have an insane amount of static coming out on top of pretty much any sound that tries to go through my speakers. People have told me to adjust my pcm levels, but the static stays until pcm is all the way down. one of my friends who uses ubuntu says it might be a problem with my built-in sound card. are there any other reasosn
[07:30] <gluttony> this could be cause?
[07:30] <Lilacor> alsa2: Please explain your problem and what you're trying to accomplish.
[07:30] <mayorbuttes> usser: cut out the morality. how about performance.
[07:30] <achisholm> demonspork: system > administration > system monitor > processes
[07:30] <serious_return> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:30] <serious_return> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[07:30] <jughead> mario, can I send you a pm?
[07:30] <vox754> alsa2, seems you need to configure it somehow  "iwconfig" nor "ifconfig" give a thing?
[07:30] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: iknow you're not made of blank cd's..lol, but have you tried to download another distro, to see if it will install OK?
[07:30] <ziggy23> can you just reinstall ubuntu on top of itself?
[07:30] <islan> Linux Desktops be careful when they delete things cuz they can be impossible to restore once done
[07:30] <achisholm> demonspark: then you can right on the process and hit kill
[07:30] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: OpenGL is nice because it's crossplatform and usable even on fat mainframes.
[07:30] <BioDeath666> !trillion
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trillion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <islan> ziggy23, you can clear the partition in the installation first
[07:30] <shinygerbil> gluttony: I have the same problem. I believe it's just my laptop's sound card. There's nothing I can do
[07:31] <Mohd> How can i "open with wine", it doesen't show "wine" in the "application" square. Do i choose "custome command"?
[07:31] <zilly66> what's the easiest way to play mp3's on feisty?
[07:31] <mayorbuttes> Lilacor: That does no good if you're a modern gamer ;)
[07:31] <bartzitz> hello, how to sync evolution mail on 2 comps? 1 comp periodically checks gmail account, and i need this mail to be available on 2nd comp too
[07:31] <demonspork> achisholm, that kills the process ok, but it then restarts itself
[07:31] <lbawinowns> islan - please name my nick in your posts ^^, so they get highlighted
[07:31] <BioDeath666> !death
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about death - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <demonspork> How do I fix that
[07:31] <mario> jughead, man, i can not see them because i'm not registered, but i'll pastebin the xorg,conf file
[07:31] <BioDeath666> !the end] 
[07:31] <islan> lbawinowns, sowwie
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about the end]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <usser> mayorbuttes: perfomance wise hm, i dunno, i remember it being hella slow on first halflife so i dont like it ever since
[07:31] <Siph0n> hey.... how can i change my network interface from ath0 to ath1 ?
[07:31] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: OpenGL isn't made for just games. It's used for all types of games.
[07:31] <mc44> !botabuse | BioDeath666
[07:31] <ubotu> BioDeath666: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:31] <Micieri> IndyGunFreak - Nope.. but Ubuntu worked before, after I formatted my HD, why wouldn't it work now?
[07:31] <zilly66> bartzitz, you need to append recent: to your username
[07:31] <Lilacor> 'er
[07:31] <zilly66> sorry prepent
[07:31] <islan> lbawinowns, but can you see the hidden files now?
 does it matter that I'm on a desktop, not a laptop?
[07:31] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: it's used for all types of applications I meant
[07:31] <mayorbuttes> Lilacor: You're missing the point ;). DX out performs OpenGL in modern day videogames.
[07:31] <IndyGunFreak> Micieri: i see what yhou're saying.. i just can't offer a reasonable explanation
[07:32] <Mohd> Usser: How can i "Open with wine" You are communicating with a n00b here who got Linux 2 days ago.
[07:32] <bartzitz> zilly66: sorry, didnt get you?
[07:32] <serious_return> any body can help me
[07:32] <asherZ> Hey, i just upgraded from firefox to swiftfox and was wondering how to add Ubuntu Package Search to swiftfox's google bar
[07:32] <usser> mayorbuttes: i just hate the whole idea of reinventing the bicycle by MS, while they could take OpenGL and build upon it
[07:32] <islan> Mohd, do a google search for wine
[07:32] <mayorbuttes> Lilacor: So if you value performance, you go with DX. If you value morality and portability, you go with opengl.
[07:32] <asherZ> search bar*
[07:32] <lbawinowns> islan - sorry, I waited a bit to my writing to dvd to be finished before i take action so burn dont fial ^^, I check now
[07:32] <shinygerbil> gluttony: to be honest, I have no idea. Have you looked up any info on your sound card?
[07:32] <Micieri> IndyGunFreak - Much appreciated for trying.. but that's what everyone else says
[07:32] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: I wouldn't know. It's not really my issue.
[07:32] <zilly66> bratzitz change your login username to recent:username@gmail.com
[07:32] <Frost_> good evening everybody.   i have some problems with Azureus it crashes after a while??
[07:32] <islan> lbawinowns, no prob
[07:32] <usser> Mohd: ok open up console
[07:32] <mayorbuttes> usser: Hey, they're money mongrals. What're yah gonna do.
[07:32] <james_> islan, http://pastebin.ca/472536
[07:32] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: I'm not playing that many games and I'm not using Ubuntu for games.
[07:32] <islan> james_, okay lemme take a look-see
[07:33] <mario> jughead, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19323/, this is the xorg,conf
[07:33] <zilly66> bartzitz, google realized people have more than one computer they check email on
[07:33] <serious_return> 
[07:33] <serious_return> helo
[07:33] <Frost_> does anybody know whats rong?
[07:33] <usser> Mohd: did it?
[07:33] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: I'm not posing it as morality
[07:33] <mayorbuttes> Lilacor: No one is, and that's understandable. However when you say it's "better", there really should be some type of explanation.
[07:33] <lbawinowns> islan - nope, they dont appear when i press show hidden. I think my partition that is ntfs has it's own recycle bin.
[07:33] <jrib> serious_return: what happens when you run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?
 i have a) no idea how to do that and b) a built in sound card in my mob
[07:33] <zilly66> anyone want to give me a quick pointer on installing mp3 ability
[07:33] <rummik> how do i change the motd for ssh?
[07:33] <main2> i got some serious problems with kubun and my cybershit? > http://www.pastebin.ca/472538
[07:33] <lbawinowns> islan - but I have no idea where
[07:33] <jrib> zilly66: what version of ubuntu?
[07:33] <main2> its mounted read only by default :( anyone?
[07:33] <zilly66> feisty
[07:33] <Tom47> !arabic
[07:33] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[07:33] <Mohd> Usser: Its okay, now how to do it.
[07:33] <jughead> mario - are you using feisty fawn?
[07:33] <bartzitz> zilly66: you mean i can set my 2nd evolution account with recent:name@gmail.com and it will work?
[07:33] <jrib> zilly66: go to nautilus and double click on an mp3
[07:33] <shinygerbil> !mp3 > zilly66
[07:34] <mario> jughead, in deed!
[07:34] <Gartral> help... i was in the middle of upgradeing (edgy > fiesty) and lost power... baerly got the system running
[07:34] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: It's better for some situations but not so nice for others. I'm not sure about DirectX so I can't comment on it.
[07:34] <islan> lbawinowns, wait, what/where are you deleting things from again?
[07:34] <islan> james_, do you have three graphics cards?
[07:34] <achisholm> Gartral: whats happening?
[07:34] <Gartral> like nothing works right now
[07:34] <usser> Mohd: now issue 'cd <directory where your game is>'
[07:34] <XiXaQ> is there any vmware images for feisty available for download?
[07:34] <mayorbuttes> Lilacor: Now i'm really interested. In what areas would opengl come out on top of dx in your opinion?
[07:34] <zilly66> bartzitz set all your accounts with that http://lifehacker.com/software/gmail/how-to-re+download-recent-gmail-messages-251365.php
[07:34] <james_> bartzitz, you have to go into your gmail account and tell it you are going to do that
[07:34] <lbawinowns> islan - I delete files from my ntfs drive that is in /media/hda6
[07:34] <vox754> !offtopic > mayorbuttes
[07:34] <mario> jughead, should I get back with the previous version?
[07:34] <jughead> mario - have you read this?  http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/03/18/nvidia-9xxx-driver-and-geforce4-mx-trouble/
[07:34] <ziggy23> how do I check the MD5 of the Ubuntu cd within Ubuntu?
[07:34] <james_> islan, no one dual monitor card, the matrox, and the ati radeon card
[07:35] <bartzitz> zilly66: thanks, didn't know that
[07:35] <Mohd> Usser: thanks alot, i found a guide :D
[07:35] <jrib> zilly66: md5sum
[07:35] <bartzitz> james_: thanks
[07:35] <usser> Mohd: heh
[07:35] <Gartral> i cant access ANY su sudo or root based command the entierty of sudoers is GONE
[07:35] <shinygerbil> gluttony: I'm afraid I can't help you any more than that! Try typing the model number into Google, see if there's any info?
[07:35] <jrib> ziggy23: md5sum
[07:35] <islan> james_, I think you only need to specify the first video card once and you have it twice, though I don't think that's the problem
[07:35] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: it's better for huge fat scientific graphical modeling under mainframes because it's the only option
[07:35] <achisholm> XiXaQ: I dont believe VMWare is open source, hence the packages arent included, but if you look on the VMWare site they have a tarball for betas. I have the newest beta running great on my system
[07:35] <ziggy23> jrib: md5sum what?
[07:35] <jrib> Gartral: how about "recovery mode"
[07:35] <max_> Hi. I'm french guy. I installed xchat 2 minutes ago. I can't use it. It's only english channel ?
[07:35] <vox754> !offtopic > Lilacor
[07:35] <jrib> ziggy23: md5sum your_file
[07:35] <Lilacor> mayorbuttes: DirectX is tied to the win32 OS.
[07:35] <Gartral> GDM is completewly unstable... and i only have half of the kernal accessable
[07:36] <lbawinowns> !french
[07:36] <james_> islan, yeah, it was that way first, but I was doing some diagnosing trying to get both monitors the same size so I tried that
[07:36] <zilly66> jrib, md5sum?
[07:36] <zilly66> jrib, i double clicked and it installed certain packages, but it still won't work in rythmbox
[07:36] <Mohd> usser: sorry for bothering :P.
[07:36] <ThinkBox> hello all
[07:36] <ThinkBox> Got a quick question if I may.
[07:36] <islan> lbawinowns, oh I see, I've had trouble deleting things from other partitions in Linux as well.
[07:36] <Gartral> request denied
[07:36] <max_> sorry lbawinows ?
[07:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:36] <jrib> zilly66: ignore the md5sum comment, it was for someone else.  It should work, did you restart rhythmbox?
[07:36] <islan> james_, ah, but you are only specifying two screens, not three
[07:36] <lbawinowns> max_ see what that ubotu bot wrote :)
[07:36] <max_> thank to bot ;)
[07:36] <Gartral> look... this isnt the first bit of trouble ive had with ubuntu
[07:36] <Lilacor> alsa2: hello? are you going to tell me what is wrong with your wireless card?
[07:36] <XiXaQ> achisholm, no, I meant a premade virtual machine with feisty installed.
[07:36] <max_> i've seen it
[07:36] <james_> islan, I thought I had three in there
[07:37] <max_> nice weekend
[07:37] <islan> james_, Videocard3 is not being used at all
[07:37] <max_> bye
[07:37] <james_> islan, it is videocard 0,1,2
[07:37] <islan> james_, I only see Screen1 and Screen2
[07:37] <Lilacor> Is there a linux version of VMware p2v?
[07:37] <zilly66> jrib yeah, i did
[07:37] <serious_return> hello
[07:37] <jrib> Gartral: try to address people you are talking to and keep your responses on one line, otherwise it's hard to follow
[07:37] <james_> islan, it is videocard 0,1,2
 jeez, i made this pc awhile ago. i barely remember what brad my mobo is
[07:37] <jrib> zilly66: see the site ubotu gave you then
[07:37] <mario> jughead, i read that but I coudn't understand what to do exactly
[07:37] <zilly66> i'm looking
[07:37] <shinygerbil> !mp3 | zilly66
[07:37] <Gartral> jrib:  irc is hard to follow
[07:37] <ubotu> zilly66: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <Tom47> !ask > serious_return
[07:37] <XiXaQ> achisholm, vmware server is gratis and packages are available, but it doesn't play well with the newer linux kernels, either as host or guest. I have a windows host, so that's not a problem, but I need to run feisty as a guest.
[07:37] <JeEz> huh?
[07:38] <islan> james_, still, you only are using two screens
[07:38] <serious_return>    
[07:38] <james_> islan, no there are screen0 screen1 screen2
[07:38] <serious_return> my ubuntu had aproblem
[07:38] <islan> james_, oh, I see it
[07:38] <vox754> !prefix | Gartral
[07:38] <ubotu> Gartral: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:38] <serious_return> in the synpatic
[07:38] <islan> james_, gah, I hate using Dillo..
[07:38] <jrib> serious_return: why don't you answer my question?
[07:38] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: I'm not having problems running vmware workstation under ubuntu 7.04.
[07:38] <lbawinowns> any1 here problems deleting files from ntfs drives? "shit-delete" frees memory but when I just delete no memery get free, and there is no additional files in recycle bin :(
[07:38] <fuffal0> i want to set up a simple proxy server on my ubuntu box for my friend (he can't watch streaming hockey because he's in the usa) what software package can i use to set this up?
[07:39] <pharsalus> gartral: Do you have backups of essential data?
[07:39] <zapal> siemka hi:)
[07:39] <Gartral> i *thought* i did, when i checked, they were all currupted
[07:39] <islan> james_, have you tried Screen0 and Screen1 both using Video0?
[07:39] <islan> james_, (or Video1)
[07:39] <pharsalus> Gartral: Are you able to burn dvds/create backup media from your current install?
[07:39] <Gartral> no
[07:40] <Tom47> serious_return: what language have you been using?
[07:40] <ThinkBox> What is the differnce between booting to the single user runlevel, then running telinit 2, and just doing a normal boot? I don't get any video if I do a normal boot, but everything works fine if I boot the other way
[07:40] <james_> islan, yeah, but those two work, it is videocard2 that doesnt come up
[07:40] <jughead> mario, have you tried the driver from nvidia, or did you use the new restricted driver utility that comes with fiesty fawn?
[07:40] <Gartral> that part of the kernal is gone
[07:40] <needhelp> Hi, I've just set up Apache. Now Im trying to get perl to work too.  If I try to run the .cgi file from localhost, the .cgi file shows up as a textfile instead of being executed. I've added AddHandler cgi-script .cgi, but still it wont work. Help?
[07:40] <islan> mhm
[07:40] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, really? That's strange. But as I stated, I don't want to run the host on ubuntu, but ubuntu as guest. It'd be nice if there was images available, cause compiling vmware-tools seems to be alot of hassle.
[07:40] <mario> jughead, the guy who wrote that seemed to have my problem but ididn't know how to name it
[07:40] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[07:40] <jrib> needhelp: you restarted apache?
[07:40] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: you had to compile vmware tools?
[07:40] <needhelp> jrib: sure
[07:41] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, you always do..?
[07:41] <jughead> mario, I don't know much about compiling drivers - but if you look in the comments section he posted a link to the solution.  I don't understand it though
[07:41] <mario> jughead, that was installed immediatly when I installed ubuntu, and yes, it's restricted, should I change that driver?
[07:41] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: OH! you mean under  a *nix guest!!!
[07:41] <shinygerbil> gluttony: sorry i didn't see that for a sec. all I can say is, it's probably your soundcard, especially if it's inbuilt
[07:41] <XiXaQ> yes.
[07:41] <Gartral> every time i try and use sudo it passes me segment fault (core dumped) :(
[07:41] <pharsalus> Gartral: Sounds like a bad situation. Have you tried getting into recovery mode?
[07:41] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: I thought you meant while installing on a Ubuntu  host.
[07:42] <jughead> mario, you might have to change that driver, but it's confusing (to me) as to which driver you need to change it to for 3d support on a geforce 4 MX card
[07:42] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, I have vmware server running on windows xp and I'd like to have feisty running as a guest on that. Actually, I need to run feisty as a guest.
[07:42] <islan> james_, shouldn't there be a ServerFlags section?  not sure if that's required...
[07:42] <jrib> Gartral: can you get to recovery mode?
[07:42] <Gartral> pharsalus: yes, with no luck error was : "cannot find stable kernal"
[07:42] <ChaZ^college> Hey! Can anyone help me? I need to enable XDMPC for vnc / remote control from windows, is there any way i can do this from putty as i don't have a screen hooked up to do it through the GUI. Thanks!
[07:42] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: so you're saying that vmware tools aren't compliing underneath your win32 host?
[07:42] <james_> islan, not sure
[07:42] <pharsalus> Would Gartral be able to mount his HD from the live CD of Feisty, then back up his data and reinstall?
[07:42] <mario> jughead, thanks a lot man, I'll try that you have been so much help for me, buddy
[07:42] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, it isn't compiling on ubuntu feisty.
[07:43] <jughead> good luck mario
[07:43] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: what error(s) are you encountering?
[07:43] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, which vmware product you're using and the host system is irrelevant.
[07:43] <islan> james_, I think it's just an extension of ServerLayout, but in the examples I've seen that's where xinerama is turned on
[07:43] <jrib> Gartral: as long as he had some means to backup, sure
[07:43] <Gartral> cant run cds of fiesty, for SOME reason they refuse to start on my system
[07:43] <jrib> Gartral: so use some other live cd
[07:43] <james_> islan, look at line 9
[07:43] <gluttony> kk, thanks. just wanted to make sure my friend knew what he was talking about
[07:43] <Gartral> ok, i could boot using backtrack
[07:43] <soothsay> Gartral: Try playing with boot options
[07:43] <islan> james_, I know, that's why I don't think ServerFlags is really required
[07:43] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: I'm using ubuntu as host and a win32 guest so I've never had to compile vmware tools...which why I was confused.
[07:44] <james_> islan, ohh ok
[07:44] <darkstar_> can somebody send me the link to the wine support page?
[07:44] <pharsalus> Gartral: Try it and let us know what happens.
[07:44] <zilly66> jrib, i needed to restart for it to work, weird
[07:44] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, it's a known issue with linux 2.6.19 and newer. It's possible to fix it, but I'm not sure how.
[07:44] <darkstar_> i'm really bad at finding this crap
[07:44] <jrib> !wine > darkstar_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:44] <Gartral> give me 5 minutes, ill reboot using backtrack
[07:44] <jrib> zilly66: yeah, maybe rhythmbox wasn't completely shutting down
[07:44] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: what error are you encountering?
[07:44] <MajorPayne> Where do I change the global $PATH variable, I can't find it in /etc/profile.
[07:44] <zilly66> thanks jrib
[07:45] <Lilacor> MajorPayne: it might be in your .bashrc ?
[07:45] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, missing headerfiles.
[07:45] <islan> james_, it's Screen2 that's not working, right?
[07:45] <MajorPayne> Lilacor: That would not be global.
[07:45] <james_> islan, yes
[07:45] <jrib> needhelp: cleared the cache in your browser?
[07:45] <Kemurii> hi, I would like to report 'a bug' on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer (Immutable page), how I do that?
[07:45] <soothsay> Does anybody know why iwconfig reports my WiFi radio as off (iwconfig txpower on fails)
[07:46] <TFrog> anyone here play pysol and having issues with the sound?
[07:46] <islan> james_, have you tested that Screen with just a single monitor?  (ie, the graphics card is working in Ubuntu, etc.)
[07:46] <MajorPayne> Where do I change the global $PATH variable, I can't find it in /etc/profile.
[07:46] <james_> islan, no I havent
[07:46] <ThinkBox> Does anybody know much about the different runlevels?
[07:46] <islan> james_, it could be that it doesn'
[07:46] <james_> islan, it worked before I put the dual card in
[07:47] <Lilacor> MajorPayne: good question...lemme know if you figure it out
[07:47] <jrib> needhelp: also, you have it in the right place?  (you might need to do ExecCGI on the directory)
[07:47] <Kemurii> MajorPayne: I think /etc/environment
[07:47] <soothsay> ThinkBox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_level
[07:47] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, I found a virtual appliance on vmtn. It's in german though, but I guess that'll be ok :)
[07:47] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: have you installed your header files onto your guest?
[07:47] <nikosapi> Does Ubuntu have a special way to add udev rules? I've added mine to /etc/udev/rules.d/ but they don't seem to get run when I plug in my usb device.
[07:47] <islan> islan, in Ubuntu?  so the drivers are working for the ATI card, then?
[07:47] <zedfloyd> how do i install this file et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[07:47] <islan> james_, , in Ubuntu?  so the drivers are working for the ATI card, then?
[07:47] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, no, I don't even know where to get them.
[07:47] <MajorPayne> Kemurii: It is, thanks.
[07:47] <Kemurii> zedfloyd:  $ sh ./et-linux...
[07:48] <ThinkBox> soothsay: I have read that, actually. I can't figure out why I can boot if I go to runlevel S and then run 'telinit 3'
[07:48] <DanaG> Does anybody know how to get a screenshot of my BIOS's boot logo, WITH the grey statusbar at the bottom?
[07:48] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: oh..  do a search for kernel headers using apt-cache.
[07:48] <brent> hey does anyone know where to get help about evolution?   I want to be able to set up multiple mail accounts and view them separated by accounts like Thunderbird, rather than all lumped into the same Inbox.  Basically I need multiple Inboxes.  Any help?
[07:48] <ThinkBox> soothsay: however, I can't do a normal boot which by default goes directly to 2
[07:48] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: or use synaptic to find the proper kernel headers
[07:48] <DanaG> I found out how to extract the logo from the "Winphlash" file, but I don't know how to get the image with the statusbar.
[07:49] <soothsay> ThinkBox: Ah. Sorry, I don't know
[07:49] <Kemurii> join #ubuntu-doc
[07:49] <Kemurii> err
[07:49] <Lilacor> Kemurii: hey wow...that's it! :D
[07:49] <lego> How do I install an RPM file in Ubuntu?  Please.
[07:49] <islan> james_, hm, here's an idea...
[07:49] <Lilacor> lego look up alien
[07:49] <zarath> hello, does the option to encrypt a swap file with this line in fstab "/swapfile swap swap encrypted" work in ubuntu. I have read it in a mandriva blog.
[07:49] <zarath> lego: use alien
[07:49] <jrib> lego: you try not to.  What are you installing?
[07:49] <Rug> Howdy all
[07:49] <ThinkBox> DanaG: unfortunately, I'm thinking you'll have to capture the image externally, eg. digital camera
[07:50] <lego> I want to update vmware player.
[07:50] <DanaG> Or use s-video out to a video capture device.
[07:50] <lego> I downloaded the rpm file.
[07:50] <Lilacor> lego  use vmware workstation 6 instead
[07:50] <ThinkBox> DanaG: yes
[07:50] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, the problem is that the headerfiles that vmware-tools needs are deprecated so one has to change the build script, I guess..
[07:50] <islan> james_, maybe try changing line 6 from "Screen1" 0 0 to "Screen1" LeftOf "Screen2"
[07:50] <Lilacor> lego - you can use that until it goes gold
[07:50] <islan> james_, I'm thinking it's just not finding its location properly
[07:50] <lego> I own a code for vmware workstation.
[07:51] <lego> Just don't know how to get it working in ubuntu.
[07:51] <Lilacor> lego - so download vmware workstation for linux and install it
[07:51] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: what version of vmware workstation are you using?
[07:51] <lego> Easier said than done Lilacor
[07:51] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, I'm not using vmware workstation. I'm using vmware server.
[07:52] <jrib> lego: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Workstation?action=show&redirect=VmwareWorkstation
[07:52] <Lilacor> lego - it's quite easy, I'm using it right now.
[07:52] <KNY> how would I enable/disable compiz via the command line?
[07:52] <lego> brb
[07:52] <Gartral> ok, im back, now what?
[07:52] <pharsalus> Gartral: Did your reboot work? Do you have the capability to back up your data?
[07:52] <Gartral> yea
[07:52] <zarath> Does the option to encrypt a swap file with this line in fstab "/swapfile swap swap encrypted" work in ubuntu? I have read about it in a mandriva blog.
[07:53] <Jordan_U> I am trying to upgrade to 7.04 ( from Edgy ) with update-manager but every time I try I get an "authentication error"
[07:53] <Tom47> zarath its a bit dated but its dicussed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120091
[07:53] <pharsalus> I suggest you make a new backup, verify it, and then make a clean install of Feisty. It's drastic, but it's a quick solution.
[07:53] <zarath> thanks, tom47
[07:53] <Gartral> jord update first
[07:53] <pharsalus> *Gartral: I suggest...
[07:53] <Lilacor> XiXaQ: http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/ekeller00/ubuntu/2a_UbuntuInWindows_VMware_e.html
[07:53] <Rug> zarath: if you encrypt the swap your machine will SLOW down.  also, get more ram and your swap won't even get touched.
[07:54] <islan> hm, why does Ubuntu's screensaver take up all my CPU power?
[07:54] <sam4654> when i type '/opt/UT2004/System/ut2004-bin' in terminal ut2004 runs but when i use the same command it dosent. Does anybody know how to get it to work?
[07:54] <islan> I notice it always getting noisy and hot when it comes on
[07:54] <Jordan_U> Gartral, Update what? All my packages are up to date
[07:54] <sam4654> same command in a desktop shortcut i mean
[07:54] <gordonjcp> what's the system timer set to in the lowlatency kernel?
[07:54] <XiXaQ> Lilacor, I've been trying to tell you; the problem is with linux 2.6.19 and above. Earlier Ubuntus than Feisty runs perfectly without any problems.
[07:54] <zarath> islan: you might be trying to use a screen saver that required 3d acceleration
[07:54] <Gartral> pharsalus:  i just said... my system wont boot directly to 7.04 live
[07:54] <KNY> sam4654, it runs from a different directory
[07:54] <Jordan_U> sam4654, Probably you don't have acellerated drivers for our GFX card installed so it's using the CPU
[07:55] <Gartral> i wont get past boot screen
[07:55] <Mohd> There's a better program than Wine in stimulating windows?
[07:55] <islan> zarath, I thought I turned that on already...
[07:55] <pharsalus> Gartral: So you are unable to make a fresh install?
[07:55] <zarath> mohd: there is also crossover
[07:55] <KNY> sam4654, my solution was to create a script that cd to the install dir, then executes the ut2004-bin
[07:55] <Gartral> of fiesty
[07:55] <Jordan_U> sam4654, Sorry, last comment meant for islan
[07:55] <sam4654> Jordan_U my drivers are fine
[07:55] <sam4654> ok
[07:55] <zarath> moh: by the way, Wine Is Not an Emulator... ;-)
[07:55] <el_ericho> hi, i'm compiling a kernel on feisty and i had this error: WARNING: "led_classdev_register" [ubuntu/mactel/applesmc.ko]  undefined!
[07:55] <el_ericho> WARNING: "led_classdev_unregister" [ubuntu/mactel/applesmc.ko]  undefined!
[07:55] <el_ericho> WARNING: "register_cpu_notifier" [drivers/kvm/kvm.ko]  undefined!
[07:55] <el_ericho>  Someone know how to fix it?
[07:55] <sam4654> KNY how do i do that?
[07:55] <nalioth> el_ericho: please don't paste
[07:55] <KNY> sam4654, let me make a pastebin, hold
[07:55] <gluttony> im looking for a list of supported sound cards, but google is yielding no use results. does anyone have such a list?
[07:55] <sam4654> KNY :)
[07:55] <el_ericho> nalioth, sorry
[07:55] <islan> Jordan_U, how do I get those drivers installed again?  I know I did it once before, probably before reinstalling
[07:56] <lbawinowns> islan - http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#diskspace , you might have this problem (like I do)
[07:56] <Jordan_U> gluttony, Wireless cards?
[07:56] <pharsalus> Gartral: What about Ubuntu 6.06?
[07:56] <DanaG> Also, Gnome-screensaver doesn't set "Run nice" by default.
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[07:56] <usser> sam4654: u should create a desktop shortcut and there's an option there to "run in directory@
[07:56] <tshabee> hi, i wanted to ask you if  beryl/compiz is integrated in ubuntu feisty ...
[07:56] <DanaG> And it doesn't set a framerate limit on the RSS-GLX savers,
[07:56] <Gartral> its buggy though -_-
[07:56] <sam4654> usser im using kubuntu not ubuntu
[07:57] <DanaG> so on my system, they run at something like 200 FPS, and look horrible.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> gluttony, Cards for what? GFX, ethernet ?
[07:57] <usser> sam4654: even better, cause now i know for sure its the case, i use kubuntu too
[07:57] <Mias> hi
[07:57] <Jordan_U> tshabee, Compiz is, its in "Desktop Effects"
[07:57] <KNY> sam4654, http://pastebin.ca/472565
[07:57] <KNY> directions are in the description
[07:57] <pharsalus> Gartral: A possible solution would be to back up your data, then install 6.06, then upgrade to 7.04...
[07:57] <sam4654> KNY thanks
[07:57] <Tom47> !beryl > tshabee
[07:57] <Mias> why does ubuntu load blacklisted modules?
[07:57] <KNY> sam4654, not a problem
[07:57] <tshabee> Jordan_U: thx
[07:57] <usser> sam4654: create new-> link to application in the application tab theres workpath
 pretty sure i already said sound cards
[07:58] <Gartral> thats what put me in THIS situation...
[07:58] <pharsalus> Gartral: Or you could search for a solution to Feisty Live not booting.
[07:58] <Mias> here: via_agp, "in use by nvidia", and how to prevent this?
[07:58] <Jordan_U> gluttony, You probably did but I missed it :)
[07:58] <KNY> and then in your application launcher/shortcut, just place "ut" as the command
[07:58] <sam4654> usser it works
[07:58] <tshabee> thx for your help. bye :)
[07:58] <pharsalus> Gartral: I thought your power went off during install?
[07:58] <sam4654> usser thanks i didnt have to follow KNYs instructions
[07:59] <KNY> nice
[07:59] <usser> sam4654: good =), but sometimes its useful to use some scripting too
[07:59] <KNY> :)
[07:59] <sam4654> twas a quick fix
[07:59] <Gartral> hey question... could anyone like walk me through the installation of ubuntu fiesty from edgy?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> gluttony, http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/soundcards
[07:59] <sam4654> usser ill bookmark the page incase i ever need it again
[07:59] <nalioth> Gartral: /msg ubotu upgrade
sorry, im a little edgy today
[07:59] <gluttony> thanks
[08:00] <gluttony> thats one short list....
[08:00] <sam4654> for some reason when i try to install unreal and ut2k3 the sound is really choppy. i think its because im installing from unreal anthology
[08:00] <Gartral> no, no, no... i need someone who can help me, not run me to a machine, i need someone who truely knows what there doing and is willing to help me with this problem, anyone up for that?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> gluttony, FSF doesn't update their lists often, you might find a better one somewhere else
[08:01] <Jordan_U> gluttony, They also only show cards that require absolutely no proprietary drivers or firmware
[08:01] <aimtrainer> hi! I just ordered a subnotebook without dvd drive. Can I just copy everything from the ubuntu alternate (feisty) cd to a usb stick and install from the stick?
[08:02] <omegazepher> Greetings
[08:02] <jrib> !install > aimtrainer (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:02] <lego> I installed alien.  Now what?
[08:02] <aimtrainer> jrib, thanks
[08:02] <soothsay> lego: man alien
 oh ok
[08:02] <Gartral> well, does anyone feel like helping me?
[08:02] <omegazepher> Sure, If i`m able
[08:02] <sam4654> where in my unreal tournament 2004 installation directory is my desktop shortcut icon located?
[08:03] <jrib> Gartral: what problem?
[08:03] <Gartral> cool, can we take this to PM?
[08:03] <zarath> gartral: what is your problem?
[08:03] <soothsay> He's nervous
[08:03] <Gartral> i cant install ubuntu without something going wrong
[08:03] <Dimensions> Hiya, i was trying to upgrade my edgy to fiesta ... all updates were completed and rebooted the system now it booted back to edgy without showing any new kernel .... and Language is changed to some blocks kinda stuff ... i tried to change language to english but didn't resolve the problem so did the keyboard layout ... though terminal is in english ... what should i do ?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> !install | aimtrainer install from usb stick is covered here
[08:03] <DivineMonkey> Anyone know any solution for this? "E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2 no such file or directory)"
[08:03] <ubotu> aimtrainer install from usb stick is covered here: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
it say Audigy on the list. does that include Audigy 4?
[08:04] <Gartral> i need someone who can help me actually fix it and get a stable 7.04 on my system
[08:04] <usser> sam4654: that i dont know, what i usually do in these cases is find an icon on the web and put it into
[08:04] <usser> sam4654: /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[08:04] <mc44> Dimensions: do you get a list of kernels when booting up?
[08:04] <omegazepher> Gartral, I reinstalled :/
[08:04] <zarath> gartral: what are the error messages?
[08:04] <motin_> I am supposed to enable the "mozdevelop" USE flag in Firefox in order to get Firebug to work again - but where do I even start? There is nothing similar in about:config
[08:04] <omegazepher> Feisty is pute love though :o
[08:04] <sam4654> usser thanks for the tip
[08:04] <omegazepher> pure*
[08:04] <Dimensions> mc44:  hav't seen any ... mc44
[08:04] <Gartral> even after i reinstall something screws up
[08:04] <DivineMonkey> Anyone know any solution for this? "E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2 no such file or directory)"
[08:05] <PolitikerNEU> does anyone know if there's a way to get metisse running under (k)ubuntu feisty fawn?
[08:05] <motin_> DivineMonkey: use sudo
[08:05] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, Did you try a sudo?
[08:05] <usser> sam4654: into appropriate size directory like 32x32 or 48x48
[08:05] <sam4654> usser which size does kde use?
[08:05] <mc44> Dimensions: so you dont get the grub screen with  kernels listed?
[08:05] <Gartral> well, as of this moment ive reinstalled 5 times with 6.10 never got to the upgrade before my system died
[08:05] <DivineMonkey> Yeah i tried sudo, i was having probs last night and had to mrdir var/lib/dpkg....now ubuntu is in retard looking mode
[08:05] <Jordan_U> gluttony, I don't know, looks like anything with the emu10k2 chipset will work with Audigy
[08:05] <murph2481> so i have my laptop plugged into an external monitor, i want the resolution on the external to be high 1280X1024 but all i can select is 1024X768 i tried typing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but then it gets all screwed up
[08:05] <sid32> hey.. I just had to do a reinstall and moved to a xine backend and now I dont get audio
[08:05] <ziggy23> I am attempting to reinstall feisty using alternate CD.  The partitioner recognizes the mount points as a scsi drive
[08:05] <usser> sam4654: depends how u set it up, by default on the desktop its 32x32
[08:06] <omegazepher> Gartral, I did not mean upgrade. but a re-install
[08:06] <sid32> what codecs do I need?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> murph2481, What kind of card do you have?
[08:06] <DivineMonkey> motin_: Yeah i tried sudo, i was having probs last night and had to mkdir var/lib/dpkg....now ubuntu is in retard looking mode
[08:06] <omegazepher> sid32, does audio work on other things?
[08:06] <murph2481> its a dell laptop, so whatever is standard to that D610
[08:06] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher:  Yeah i tried sudo, i was having probs last night and had to mkdir var/lib/dpkg....now ubuntu is in retard looking mode
[08:06] <ziggy23> when I have an ide (eg, dev/sda1 instead of /dev/hda1)
[08:06] <Gartral> omegazepher:  if you were reading earlier i cant... my system wont load the 7.04 live
[08:06] <ThinkBox> Could anybody tell me the difference between a boot into recovery console and doing a 'telinit 2', and just a normal boot into runlevel 2? because a normal boot won't give me the gui, or any display.
[08:06] <Dimensions> mc44 u mean grub yes i do get my kernal there ...(sorry thought u mean with errors) .... yes i loads my original kernel ... there is no extra one
[08:06] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, Does the file exist?
[08:06] <usser> sam4654: but i'd just take one png picture from the web and put it into all the most common used folders(32x32,48x48,64x64) kde will scale them
[08:06] <darkvador> does somebody know how to create udev rules based on the uuid of a partition?
[08:06] <mc44> Dimensions: there isnt a -20 kernel? hmm
[08:06] <sid32> Omeg - I get ssyems sounds and audio when I was using the defualt player
[08:07] <ziggy23> is this a problem?
[08:07] <Gartral> omega, can i pm you? this room is hectic
[08:07] <mc44> Dimensions: how did you upgrade?
[08:07] <sid32> I switch to xine backend to get vlc to work
[08:07] <sid32> and nothing
[08:07] <omegazepher> Gartral, Sorry, i didn`t get that. Where does it go wrong?
[08:07] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: nope
[08:07] <omegazepher> Gartral, Sure
[08:07] <Dimensions> mc44 ... my grub says ... 2.6.17.11 ...
[08:07] <murph2481> jordan_u i know the card supports it because i set it even higher at work with my 20' with winblows
[08:07] <XZC> Hi, where can I find system requiremtns on Ubuntu 7?
[08:07] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, do the directories exist upto the file?
[08:07] <Jordan_U> darkvador, For basic things like mountpoint you can use gnome/nautilus
[08:07] <Dimensions> mc44 with terminal ... dist-upgrade ...
[08:08] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: i think somehow my /var/lib dirs got wiped...i had to revbuild gdm
[08:08] <mc44> Dimensions: eek, you should use the upgrade manager :)
[08:08] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, try making the directory structure again
[08:08] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: Yeah there's only 2 dirs in /var/lib
[08:08] <XZC> Hi, where can I find system requiremtns on Ubuntu 7? Didn't findit on the web-page....
[08:08] <Jordan_U> murph2481, I am more wondering if you have the correct drivers for your card installed
[08:08] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: just mkdir dpkg?
[08:08] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, yes
[08:08] <darkvador> could you elaborate please Jordan_U
[08:08] <mc44> Dimensions: now you cant boot into gnome on the edgy kernel?
[08:09] <danm2007> Is there anyway to Disable my PCI sound card. without actually removing it from it's PCI slot ?  Because i have a creative xfi card and i need to use my onboard audio ?
[08:09] <alsa> any one know how to connect to a wireless network with WPA Enterprise security , PEAP , MSCHAPV2 with domain
[08:09] <murph2481> running through the xorg config setup it seems to pick it up
[08:09] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: ok now i get "Unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[08:09] <mc44> XZC: what are your specs?
[08:09] <demonspork> How do I kill the X server???
[08:09] <murph2481> and everything works fine on the laptop and desktop effects work
[08:09] <Jordan_U> darkvador, If it is a removable drive then you can right click it's icon and set some partition specific options in "properties"
[08:09] <Dimensions> mc44:  i can boot into edgy kernel ... and gnome but language is changed ... i changed it to ENglish but still all names etc are as block letters ... for all icons ...
[08:09] <murph2481> its just the reso in the external monitor that is low
[08:09] <usser> demonspork: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[08:09] <Dimensions> and every thing else ... except for in terminal ...
[08:09] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, Hmmz. :/
[08:09] <alsa> any one know how to connect to a wireless network with WPA Enterprise security , PEAP , MSCHAPV2 with domain
[08:09] <XZC> mc44 I have a 450mHz computer...
[08:10] <mc44> Dimensions: ok, in gnome run "sudo update-manager -c" in a terminal
[08:10] <demonspork> usser, I need the X server to shut down completely, not just to restart it
[08:10] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: Yeah i've screwed something up....can't create /apt, already exists
[08:10] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, *Weirdmode!* get the deb for aptitude and install that
[08:10] <danm2007> Is there anyway to Disable my PCI sound card. without actually removing it from it's PCI slot ?  Because i have a creative xfi card and i need to use my onboard audio ?
[08:10] <mc44> XZC: you will probably be better off with xubuntu
[08:10] <danm2007> demonspork hey man
[08:10] <demonspork> DANM!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:10] <XZC> mc44 Hmm ok
[08:10] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: Any idea where i'd find that?
[08:10] <sid32> what libraries do you need to get mp3 to work in vlc?
[08:10] <Jordan_U> murph2481, If you have an ATi or Nvidia card you may need different drivers than what Ubuntu comes with by default
[08:10] <alsa> any one know how to connect to a wireless network with WPA Enterprise security , PEAP , MSCHAPV2 with domain
[08:10] <demonspork> what a coincidence dan
[08:10] <Dimensions> mc44:  ... got some error messages i guess but as i can't read what does it say ...
[08:10] <DanaG> Creative is evil.
[08:11] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, google ;)
[08:11] <DanaG> And now with Vista, they are obsolete.
[08:11] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: lol worth a try :)  thanks for the help
[08:11] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, Good luck!
[08:11] <mc44> Dimensions: ok. So when you dist-upgraded you changed your sources.list to feisty?
[08:11] <danm2007> i hate my x-fi card. i dono how to disable the darn thing
[08:11] <danm2007> lol
[08:11] <py_geek> what's the directory for the home folder?
[08:11] <Dimensions> mc44:  no i didn't but it was downloading fiesty files ...
[08:12] <sam4654> usser thanks ive got it done and the unreal tournament 2004 shorcut works perfectly
[08:12] <pharsalus> Is there an OSS ethics channel on Freenode?
[08:12] <NerveBand> hi everyone
[08:12] <mc44> Dimensions: that doesnt sound right... you must have changed something to get feisty files
[08:12] <murph2481> jordan_u looks like ATI Mobility Radeon X300 - PCI Express x16
[08:12] <ziggy23> the ubuntu partitioner shows my drive as /dev/sda instead of /dev/hda ... does this matter?
[08:12] <mc44> pharsalus: #gnu? :)
[08:12] <fotoflo> how do i tell ubuntu that i want my terminal in utf8?
[08:13] <shinygerbil> ziggy23: not really! ;)
[08:13] <NerveBand> ubuntu screwed up my windows installation and its resolutions!
[08:13] <Jordan_U> murph2481, Check in System -> Administration -> Restricted driver manager
[08:13] <hurt> .....
[08:13] <NerveBand> i tried reinstalling but that didnt fix the issue
[08:13] <usser> sam4654: np
[08:13] <ziggy23> can/should I fix this?
[08:13] <Tom47> ziggy23 no, thats the way it seems to be now ... sort of pseudo scsi
[08:13] <NerveBand> its so painful and hurtful
[08:13] <NerveBand> o.0
[08:13] <mc44> NerveBand: ubuntu cant change your windows resolution
[08:13] <Dimensions> mc44:  lemme check it out ... may be i have previously ... where exactly is sources.lst location ?
[08:13] <murph2481> 'your hardware doesn't need any restricted drivers'
[08:13] <hurt> mc44 thats what i was thinking
[08:13] <mc44> Dimensions: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:13] <NerveBand> mc44, it can, at least that what it did to mine
[08:14] <needhelp> I have trouble enabling cgi for apache. I have added AddHandler to apache2.conf and restarted Apache2, but the .cgi file is still not parsed. Help ?
[08:14] <NerveBand> one sec
[08:14] <shinygerbil> ziggy23: i don't know, but probably not, and there's no need to really!
[08:14] <mc44> Dimensions: please pastebin your sources.list
[08:14] <NerveBand> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433876
[08:14] <ziggy23> It does complain about the cluster size not being to Windows liking, too ... should I fix that?
[08:14] <mc44> NerveBand: ubuntu cannot affect Windows
[08:15] <sid32> anyone with experince getting xinebackend towork with audio?
[08:15] <earthian> hello, i have a panasonic NV-DS30 minidv video camera. I connect it to my computers ieee1394 port, however nothing happens. I can not capture video. gscanbus program shows that no camera is connected to my firewire ports. Can somebody help me fix this??
[08:15] <NerveBand> mc44, im damn sure that ubuntu did it because if it was windows, then how is it also affected my mac os x installation and my vista installation?
[08:15] <shinygerbil> ziggy23: sorry, not a clue :/
[08:15] <sam4654> does anybody here know if its possible to run windows games in cedega like guild wars and dungeon siege etc with the open source ati driver?
[08:15] <Dimensions> mc44:  this is funny ... i have both fiesty and edgy added there ...
[08:15] <NerveBand> it must hav ebeen cause i was fucking around with x
[08:15] <mc44> Dimensions: that is not good
[08:15] <mc44> !ohmy | NerveBand
[08:15] <ubotu> NerveBand: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:15] <omegazepher> Problem: I am using NFS. My server is sharing a directory with some subdirs. On the client i can mount the dir. the subdirs are visible, but empty.
[08:15] <Dimensions> mc44 should i just replace edgy with fiesty ?
[08:16] <mc44> NerveBand: No, Ubuntu cannot change windows configuration
[08:16] <mc44> Dimensions: please pastebin your sources.list so I can have a look
[08:16] <NerveBand> mc44, are you sure? this resolution stuff is just agh
[08:16] <NerveBand> i cant even add the resolution i want in windows or my mac install
[08:16] <Jordan_U> NerveBand, That isn't possible, Xorg is all software, it doesn't change your hardware / firmware configuration in any way, there is no way for it to effect windows
[08:17] <omegazepher> NerveBand, So unless you really try. no
[08:17] <NerveBand> o.0
[08:17] <omegazepher> ^_^
[08:17] <sam4654> is it true that ubuntu is just for linux noobs or is ubuntu an expert users distribution of choice too? not trying to depromote ubuntu in anyway by asking this
[08:17] <omegazepher> Killing partitions and all
[08:17] <IL_PRETE_AMEN> omg omg
[08:17] <NerveBand> i should reinstall again but i dont think thats gonna help too
[08:17] <konam> hi ya all
[08:17] <omegazepher> sam4654, Ubuntu is made to be user friendly. so in that light, its easy
[08:18] <gordonjcp> sam4654: it's easy for inexperienced users to get going
[08:18] <IL_PRETE_AMEN> 1276 !!! nick !!!
[08:18] <omegazepher> sam4654, its still powerfull enough for advanced users
[08:18] <earthian> hello, i have a panasonic NV-DS30 minidv video camera. I connect it to my computers ieee1394 port, however nothing happens. I can not capture video. gscanbus program shows that no camera is connected to my firewire ports. Can somebody help me fix this??
[08:18] <gordonjcp> sam4654: but then again, it's also good for more experienced users who don't want loads of hassle getting things working
[08:18] <mc44> IL_PRETE_AMEN: please calm down :)
[08:18] <dsmith> great article
[08:18] <dsmith> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/05/ubuntu_review.html
[08:18] <gordonjcp> earthian: what are you trying to capture with?
[08:18] <Dimensions> mc44:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19328 ....
[08:18] <sam4654> is it possible to get su to work with ubuntu?
[08:18] <DanaG> earthian: see what dmesg shows.
[08:18] <no_gatez_fan> sam4654/ try it see if you like it is what i suggest
[08:18] <omegazepher> Is anyone familiar with NFS?
[08:18] <DanaG> You may manually want to modprobe raw1394
[08:18] <gordonjcp> sam4654: yes, you can set a password for root
[08:19] <konam> earthian chage the permissions of the raw1394 directory in /dev
[08:19] <gordonjcp> sam4654: you could also do "sudo su"
[08:19] <Jordan_U> sam4654, It is also Debian based and has server versions, but it doesn't scale quite as far as debian ( like to embedded devices ) AFIK
[08:19] <omegazepher> sam4654, sudo passwd root
[08:19] <needhelp> I have trouble enabling cgi for apache. I have added AddHandler to apache2.conf and restarted Apache2, but the .cgi file is still not parsed. Help ?
[08:19] <Dimensions> mc44: i think edgy are commented out ...
[08:19] <demonspork> could someone please tell me how to exit the X server in a way that prevents it from launching again?
[08:19] <konam> earthian type this in a terminal sudo chmod 666 /dev/raw1394
[08:19] <mc44> Dimensions: yes they are, that shouldnt be a problem
[08:20] <Zaggynl^Laptop> demonspork, stop gdm :
[08:20] <py_geek> ubotu: are you there?
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you there? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <mc44> Dimensions: try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:20] <earthian> did. whats now?
[08:20] <jrib> needhelp: did you catch my last question?
[08:20] <Zaggynl^Laptop> demonspork, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[08:20] <Jordan_U> demonspork, I believe that this should do it: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:20] <demonspork> hooah
[08:20] <konam> earthian after that install kino and in the preferences-->IEEE1394 you should see your cam model
[08:21] <Jordan_U> I am trying to upgrade to 7.04 ( from Edgy ) with update-manager but every time I try I get an "authentication error"
[08:21] <demonspork> people kept telling me to hit ctrl+alt+backspace, which allows it to just restart
[08:21] <Tom47> demonspork step 1 .. ctl al backspace ..... step 2. take a look bottom lh corner and fiddle with changing the session to start next to a failafe terminal ... when finished with that exit, fiddle again to reinstate gnome/kde and bob's your uncle
[08:21] <Dimensions> mc44:  that doesn't update / upgrade any thing but gives me same list for dist-upgrade ... which i have already downloaded and installed once ...
[08:21] <jason0_> Anyone know of a terminal that allows you to split the screen into 2 terminals? Effectively the same thing as using screen "split" functionality?
[08:21] <mc44> Dimensions: what do you mean, the same list?
[08:21] <sam4654> is there a way to make firefox use my kde theme?
[08:21] <demonspork> Tom47 the failsafe terminal is running an X server
[08:21] <Tom47> is it???
[08:21] <omegazepher> jason0_, Screen had a function like that I think. not sure though
[08:21] <demonspork> yep
[08:21] <Tom47> tha surprises me
[08:21] <CerebroJD> I'm looking for documentation, or a bug report, of problems with Feisty installation problems on Inspiron 6400's with the ATI Radeon x1400.
[08:22] <Jordan_U> Tom47, yup, for just a terminal you use a tty
[08:22] <sam4654> i had lots of hassle installing the fglrx driver
[08:22] <Dimensions> mc44:  as i mentioned i have downloaded all upgrades files to upgrade from edgy to fiesty ... and rebooted after it ... now its again asking me 380 MB files to be downloaded .... 296 files ...
[08:22] <jason0_> omegazepher: yes it does, I want something similar to that but supported by the terminal emulator itself.
[08:22] <zarath> cerebrojd: google is your friend
[08:22] <CerebroJD> Installation from LiveCD fails, as the CD refuses to enter the live environment, and upgrading from 6.10 results in an failure of X to launch.
[08:22] <Tom47> demonspork then have you tried booting into recovery mode ... that should give you a root session with no xserver running
[08:22] <needhelp> jrib: was it if i did restart Apache? yes i did restart
[08:22] <mc44> Dimensions: well no wonder you havent got feisty, you havent upgraded properly yet
[08:22] <earthian> konam, nothing to choose in kino->preferences->ieee1394
[08:23] <omegazepher> jason0_, in X or on the command line
[08:23] <py_geek> ubotu: I need help with changing my screen resolution from 640 x 480 (its stuck on...) and i want to change it to the standart resoultion. I have a dell inspiron 1100 and i have edited the xorg.conf file like it said to on a couple of websites, but i got a type of bsod when i ttried to fix it...?
[08:23] <jason0_> omegazepher: in x
[08:23] <omegazepher> jason0_, let me check
[08:23] <jrib> needhelp: no, did you set "Options +ExecCGI" on the directory where you have the cgi script?
[08:23] <earthian> gscanbus now loops with message " Error while reading from IEEE1394: : Resource temporarily unavailable "
[08:23] <py_geek> all:: I need help with changing my screen resolution from 640 x 480 (its stuck on...) and i want to change it to the standart resoultion. I have a dell inspiron 1100 and i have edited the xorg.conf file like it said to on a couple of websites, but i got a type of bsod when i ttried to fix it...?
[08:23] <Dimensions> mc44:  what does update-manager -c does ??
[08:23] <Jordan_U> CerebroJD, Did you install any proprietary drivers from ati.com / nvidia.com ( they won't upgrade correctly unless you installed from the Ubuntu repos )
[08:23] <Jordan_U> ?
[08:24] <sam4654> py_geek try typing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in terminal
[08:24] <DivineOmega> NerveBand?
[08:24] <CerebroJD> Jordon, no.  Fresh install of 6.10 was updated to 7.04
[08:24] <CerebroJD> No additional drivers involved
[08:24] <mc44> Dimensions: it just upgrades but in a slightly safer way than changing your sources.list
[08:25] <insom^> oi oi oi
[08:25] <Jordan_U> CerebroJD, Try running ( from the terminal after X fails ) "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and choose "VESA" as the driver
[08:25] <Tom47> demonspork do you understand the suggestion?
[08:25] <demonspork> this is sad, I have a fire-breathing computer and I can't even install windows and am having problems with Ubuntu :(
[08:25] <CerebroJD> mmkay
[08:25] <CerebroJD> *boots the lappy*
[08:25] <demonspork> yes I do
[08:25] <lego> Linux is too complicated and annoying.  Its a miracle it works.  lol
[08:25] <Dimensions> mc44:  well its in progress ... so i would let it upgrade it then ... ?
[08:26] <Tom47> demonspork and ....?
[08:26] <demonspork> I am doing it
[08:26] <jrib> needhelp: basically, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/cgi.html
[08:26] <mc44> Dimensions: yes, to upgrade it has to, you know, upgrade :)
[08:26] <lego> I am going back to WIndows.
[08:26] <sam4654> windows is far more complicated and massively more annoying and dosent work
[08:26] <AaronMT> Ubuntu hard locks when it asks for the wireless key and I just installed ubuntu (talking on second machine), what the heck can I do to fix this?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> I am trying to upgrade to 7.04 ( from Edgy ) with update-manager but every time I try I get an "authentication error"
[08:26] <GazzaK> demonspork, maybe a new cpu fan is in order then
[08:26] <lego> Windows is the better OS.
[08:26] <sam4654> lego is simple and fun and works
[08:26] <GazzaK> lego, have fun then
[08:26] <Jordan_U> lego, It gets better every day, I hope you try linux again another year
[08:26] <XangelusX> AaronMT
[08:26] <insom^> thing is its mostly hardware manufacturers that are at fault for the problems
[08:26] <lego> Windows works, lets you install software, lets you actually get work done.
[08:26] <XangelusX> tell mi your problem
[08:26] <AaronMT> !attitude > lego
[08:27] <DanaG> hmm, for Intel graphics,
[08:27] <Firippu> lego: you will come back to linux.. its a addiction
[08:27] <sam4654> i tried linux a few years ago and didnt like it then tried it about a year ago and i loved it
[08:27] <lego> Linux is too annoying to be adictive.
[08:27] <Jordan_U> lego, Ubuntu does that for me just fine
[08:27] <mc44> lego: if you want to use windows, by all means do. This is not a channel for discussing its merits
[08:27] <Dimensions> mc44:  just wondering if it didn't downloaded all files (hundreds of them ) which took half hour ... then why would it ask download complete and reboot your system ... etc ...
[08:27] <insom^> lego just give it another shot in a year
[08:27] <needhelp> jrib: yes I have +ExecCGI in apache2.conf. I just cleared the cache in firefox. Now I get a different errormessage: forbidden - no permission. Ive manually chmod'ed all files to 777, but still same result
[08:27] <DanaG> there are two things to try: xserver-xorg-driver-intel
[08:27] <vox754> Pelo, I asked the same and nobody answered. Mine is usually 41 C, but I've seen a dual core going up to 60 C
[08:27] <insom^> it does come around
[08:27] <DanaG> and 915resolution.
[08:27] <danm2007> Is there anyway to Disable my PCI sound card. without actually removing it from it's PCI slot ?  Because i have a creative xfi card and i need to use my onboard audio ?
[08:27] <mc44> Dimensions: who knows, maybe a bug. Should work this time :)
[08:28] <insom^> also people actually give you tech support for linux
[08:28] <XangelusX> if you want a pc that you control linux , if you want a pc without control windows
[08:28] <omegazepher> jason0_, Sorry. cant find it. I thought I had a magazine about terminals
[08:28] <Pelo> vox754,  celeron D  44 -50 , with fancontrol
[08:28] <insom^> unlike some OSes
[08:28] <jrib> needhelp: you check permissions on the parent directories?
[08:28] <sam4654> windows will probably be discontinued soon anyway i think microsoft isnt getting anywhere
[08:28] <Dimensions> thanks guys ...
[08:28] <jacksonL> how might I concatenate a .avi file to the end of another .avi file?
[08:28] <jason0_> omegazepher: thanks for looking.
[08:28] <Dimensions> thanks mc44
[08:28] <insom^> sam4654: I kind of doubt that
[08:28] <mc44> Dimensions: no problem
[08:28] <demonspork> Tom47, I need to get a session at runlevel 3 at least with no X server running
[08:29] <omegazepher> jason0_, I usually just open 2. and a yakuake terminal
[08:29] <sam4654> insom^ they havent made any progress in the last 6 years
[08:29] <demonspork> recovery mode is runlevel 1
[08:29] <SlimeyPete> sam4654: they've made truckloads of money, though ;)
[08:29] <sam4654> SlimeyPete enough to pay off the national debts of many third world countries
[08:29] <vox754> Pelo, during winter it may go as low a 25 C I think. I've never used fan control, I just recently saw a PC with that with Pentium D, seems cool.
[08:29] <Jordan_U> I am trying to upgrade to 7.04 ( from Edgy ) with update-manager but every time I try I get an "authentication error"
[08:30] <needhelp> jrib: I have set chmod -R 755 to all dirs and files under the root beginning at /var/www/
[08:30] <DanaG> Pentium D is hot.  Core Duo / Core 2 Duo is cool.  Heh.
[08:30] <sam4654> ive got a pentium 4 and the fan is so terrible that i get it up to 60 degrees centregrade on low load
[08:30] <nalioth> Jordan_U: do you have non official repos in your sources.list ?
[08:30] <omegazepher> Jordan_U, Are you using sudo? if yes. it could be bad keys.
[08:30] <konam> earthian nothing, the type this on a terminal (with the cam connected) sudo chmod 777 /dev/raw1394
[08:30] <CerebroJD> how do I restart the x-sever?
[08:30] <AaronMT> ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:30] <sam4654> ctrl+alt+backspace
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[08:31] <XangelusX> sam4654 lmsensors
[08:31] <Jordan_U> nalioth, I did before upgrading from Dapper -> Edgy, don't now
[08:31] <CerebroJD> Totally a new linux user here, I appreciate the help
[08:31] <nalioth> CerebroJD: in a terminal 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:31] <Pelo> vox754,  I also get lower in winter , for obvious reasons, and I know this machine overheated in the summer,  but I was just wondering these days ,  I tried to add cpufreq to make the cpu  heat less and it didnt, seem to do anyting , so I started wondering
[08:31] <jrib> needhelp: I don't know then.  You can post your apache2.conf if you want, but someone in #apache may recognize your problem faster
[08:31] <robert98374> Welcome to the growjing club
[08:31] <nalioth> Jordan_U: have you tried upgrading using apt-get/
[08:31] <Jordan_U> omegazepher, Yes, I used gksu, I assume it is a problem with a missing key but I don't know what that key is
[08:31] <omegazepher> Is anyone familiar with NFS?
[08:31] <needhelp> jrib: ok, thanks so far
[08:31] <robert98374> Anyone know of an easy way to mount an ISO besides burning it?
[08:31] <CerebroJD> dammit, fail.
[08:31] <CerebroJD> Same problem
[08:31] <sam4654> linux seems easier to understand how it works that windows for some reason... terminal tells me alot
[08:32] <jerky> robert98374: man mount, take a look at the loop back stuff
[08:32] <mc44> CerebroJD: what problem?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> nalioth, No, and I don't plan to unless I really think it's necessary
[08:32] <sam4654> i wish i could install konsole on windows...
[08:32] <robert98374> jerky man mount?
[08:32] <omegazepher> Jordan_U, Try it from a terminal window. See what messages pop up
[08:32] <CerebroJD> x1400, failure to load x-server on upgrade from 6.10
[08:32] <jerky> robert98374: as in, take a look at the mount man page.
[08:32] <Jordan_U> sam4654, You sort of can, cygwin
[08:32] <FuzZy> what's going on?
[08:32] <DivineOmega> sam4654: I know what you mean.
[08:32] <CerebroJD> (on 7.04)
[08:32] <robert98374> jerky ahh
[08:32] <FuzZy> did you hear about windows ubuntu?
[08:32] <FuzZy> http://www.pugbus.net/artman/publish/05037002_11_windowsubuntu.shtml
[08:32] <konam> im having problems with the download speed of azureus (and any other bittorrent client) in feisty. someone knows how to fix this?
[08:32] <FuzZy> what is microsoft trying to do?
[08:32] <mc44> CerebroJD: you need to install the fglrx drivers
[08:33] <jerky> robert98374: you can do something like this: mount /tmp/image -o loop=/dev/loop1
[08:33] <robert98374> jerky i have some scripts for nautalus but i am not sure how to install them
[08:33] <phreaky_> Hi every1! I was just curious if any1 uses VLCplayer and Twinview, I'm using that, and when i try to use fullscreen on my second monitor it jumps to the first monitor. Any1 know how to fix this, and keep the fullscreen on the second monitor where it first was when i choosed fullscreen.
[08:33] <sam4654> konam allow port 6881 through your firewall and enable dht
[08:33] <CerebroJD> mc44, ok, will do some googling
[08:33] <mc44> CerebroJD: no need, I shall give you a link
[08:33] <CerebroJD> woot
[08:33] <insom^> well guys I'm attempting to install world of warcraft in cedega
[08:33] <mc44> !ati | CerebroJD
[08:33] <ubotu> CerebroJD: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:33] <new2linux> When having kpackage I get this error: "/bin/sh is needed".  What does it mean?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> omegazepher, Try what? I am trying to upgrade to Feisty, I am not going to edit my sources.list and dist-upgrade unless I think it's necessary.
[08:33] <insom^> wish me luck
[08:34] <CerebroJD> whoah
[08:34] <CerebroJD> thats damn cool lol
[08:34] <robert98374> Ill be rooting for ya
[08:34] <Pelo> konam,  adjust your bittorrent values,  azureus has a nice page for that,  ask in #azureus-support  and donT' expect to always dl at max speed with bittorrent,  speeds vary widely from torren to torrent,  and don't max out your ul speed you kill your dl
[08:34] <yarod> is there a cmd to open the ubuntu desktop from shell
[08:34] <insom^> thanks robert
[08:34] <jacksonL> how might I concatenate a .avi file to the end of another .avi file?
[08:34] <mc44> CerebroJD: you will need to follow the edgy instructions
[08:34] <Jordan_U> CerebroJD, For Feisty to install ATi / Nvidia drivers just go to System -> Administration -> Restricted driver manager
[08:34] <konam> sam4654 i have that port open, how do i enable dht?
[08:34] <mc44> Jordan_U: he doesnt have X
[08:34] <new2linux> What is meant by "/bin/sh is needed"?  Please.
[08:35] <Pelo> yarod,  try gnome
[08:35] <sam4654> is winbuntu a joke or something?
[08:35] <CerebroJD> Jordon, I have no X
[08:35] <insom^> so far I seem to be able to do everything I do in windows on ubuntu
[08:35] <omegazepher> Jordan_U, Ofcourse. What I meant was instead of using gksu. open a terminal and sudo the command. you get more feedback then
[08:35] <vox754> Pelo, I think the absolute maximum should be around 75 C. My CPU reached 50, I think, when it went crazy on Windows XP, it really scared the hell out of me.
[08:35] <konam> Pelo i know that
[08:35] <Jordan_U> mc44, Ahh, does VESA not work?
[08:35] <insom^> except for gametap...
[08:35] <mc44> Jordan_U: no, there is a bug
[08:35] <lwolf-> 'jour tous
[08:35] <konam> Pelo my bt values are ok, i set it with the values that it had in dapper
[08:35] <sam4654> konam its in the options somewhere but it should be enabled by default
[08:35] <Jordan_U> omegazepher, Ahh, will do...
[08:35] <Devyll> hello, I'm new to ubuntu. I need to install php 4.4.6 (last stable version of php4) and I don't know the exact name of the module. How can I search the exact name of a module in ubuntu ?
[08:35] <konam> sam4654 yeah, i think that is enable by default in azureus
[08:35] <DanaG> Oh, for azureus,
[08:36] <DanaG> there's #azureus-support
[08:36] <XZC> Devyll why not the lastest PHPversion?
[08:36] <Devyll> XZC: what version ?
[08:36] <sam4654> konam also do a nat test and make sure you dont have a nat problem
[08:36] <Pelo> vox754,  I have the temp protection in my bios set at 60 but you know you do this a while ago and you forget why excatly and you start to worry ect ...
[08:36] <phreaky_> I was just curious if any1 uses VLCplayer and Twinview, I'm using that, and when i try to use fullscreen on my second monitor it jumps to the first monitor. Any1 know how to fix this, and keep the fullscreen on the second monitor where it first was when i choosed fullscreen.
[08:36] <sam4654> konam and remember that some torrents are much faster than others
[08:36] <konam> DanaG azureus under feisty, under dapper it was ok, and in the forums there's some other users with my problem
[08:37] <XZC> Devyll isnt PHP 5.2.2 the last vers.?
[08:37] <CerebroJD> mc44, I have no idea if my wireless card is working in the laptop... I presume a net connection is needed?
[08:37] <DanaG> Hmm, it might have something to do with the version of Java, perhaps.
[08:37] <XZC> Devyll newer that 4...
[08:37] <Devyll> XZC: I need php 4
[08:37] <XZC> Devyll ok...
[08:37] <Devyll> some script I must use are incomaptible with php5
[08:37] <Pelo> bbl
[08:37] <Devyll> and it's to much work to change the code ... so I have to user php4
[08:38] <speedo_> g' evening
[08:38] <Devyll> so, can anyone help me ?
[08:38] <mc44> CerebroJD: not if you have a feisty CD
[08:38] <speedo_> hey guys i've just installed feisty
[08:38] <speedo_> but i can't run frostwire
[08:38] <speedo_> anyone could give me a help
[08:39] <omegazepher> speedo_, Does it give a message?
[08:39] <XZC> Devyll sorry... =(
[08:39] <speedo_> no
[08:39] <speedo_> i've installed the java sun package
[08:39] <omegazepher> speedo_, open a terminal and start it from there
[08:40] <Devyll> at least tell me how to search the exact name of a module I wish to install
[08:40] <needhelp> Help needed - while trying to access a .cgi file, I get 403 forbidden-error. I have chmod the .cgi file to 777, but still forbidden
[08:40] <fuffal0> i've got a proxy set up on a computer for my friend in the usa to use (can't watch a streaming canada hockey site unless you're from canada) - somehow it still knows he's not from canada - what else can i do?
[08:40] <speedo_> ok
[08:40] <CerebroJD> mc44, is there a method to tell it to get the files from the CD?
[08:41] <speedo_> ok
[08:41] <mc44> CerebroJD: yea
[08:41] <DanaG> fuffal0: you could set up remote desktop over SSH.
[08:41] <CerebroJD> also, will I need the regular cd, or the alternate one?
[08:41] <speedo_> there many messages of error
[08:41] <konam> sam4654 everything is ok (green) in azureus but the speed doesn't took over the 10kb limit
[08:41] <speedo_> !
[08:41] <davidisko> why there is not an mysql5.1 in ubuntu feisty?
[08:41] <jrib> fuffal0: maybe he has some cookies?  Does whatismyip.org show his ip or yours?
[08:41] <mc44> CerebroJD: put the cd in the drive and do "apt-cdrom add"
[08:41] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: couldn't find the apt deb, but i just copied the missing dirs from my other computer :D
[08:41] <DanaG> Or at least X Forwarding over SSH.
[08:41] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, Is it working? :D
[08:41] <mc44> CerebroJD: either. which one do you have?
[08:41] <DivineMonkey> omegazepher: Yeah seems to be :)
[08:41] <omegazepher> DivineMonkey, Nice going :D
[08:41] <CerebroJD> both lol
[08:41] <py_geek> ALL: I dont have the option to change my screen width to 1024x(whatever the standard is..). I have configured my xorg file but it still dosent work. I have tried to edit it manually but i mess everything up... anyone know how to fix this? have a dell inspiron 1100...?
[08:41] <XZC> Devyll test #php in freenode
[08:42] <mc44> CerebroJD: :), doesnt make any difference
[08:42] <CerebroJD> I have discs for 6.10, 7.04 and 7.04 alternate :-P
[08:42] <XZC> Devyll they might know
[08:42] <Devyll> it is not realted to php
[08:42] <Devyll> I wanted to know
[08:42] <CerebroJD> Installed Edgy before I noticed that Feisty was out
[08:42] <XZC> dev Then I canthelp you
[08:42] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok, make sure you use the feisty disk :)
[08:42] <Devyll> how to search for all available module for ubuntu starting with "xyz"
[08:42] <Devyll> something like that
[08:42] <Devyll> a functiona to search for packages
[08:42] <jrib> !apt > Devyll (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:42] <Devyll> #function
[08:42] <fuffal0> jrib, whatismyip.org shows your local ip address regardless of proxy (i think)
[08:43] <jrib> !enter > Devyll (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:43] <gglser> hi all
[08:43] <Devyll> thanks
[08:43] <rod> hey people
[08:43] <sam4654> does anybody know how to made gnome applications use my kde brushed metal itunes theme without getting lots of black areas all over the place?
[08:43] <Hungry_Wolf> hello
[08:43] <CerebroJD> ok, added the cd
[08:43] <gglser> quick question: whats the name of java runtime envir. so i can install it with apt.get ?
[08:43] <fuffal0> ok..on another note then - is there a way to remote desktop onto an ubuntu machine?  remote-X or something?
[08:43] <Hungry_Wolf> i need some help...any expert can pm me?
[08:44] <py_geek> ALL: I dont have the option to change my screen width to 1024x(whatever the standard is..). I have configured my xorg file but it still dosent work. I have tried to edit it manually but i mess everything up... anyone know how to fix this? have a dell inspiron 1100...?????
[08:44] <speedo_> ok
[08:44] <CerebroJD> mc44, do I need to use a different command than  "sudo apt-get" now?
[08:44] <rod> My portable ext2 usb harddisc got a littlebit damaged. I would like to run a fix program over it but has anybody some documentations / tips on where to start?
[08:44] <speedo_> i wish to know how install the .bin file
[08:44] <Dybber> My musicplayer runs as a daemon (MPD), is there an IRC client that works in the same way?
[08:44] <mc44> CerebroJD: nope, the instructions should work
[08:44] <lakcaj> gglser, sun-java5-jre
[08:44] <Vastlee_> Question Please:  Could someone tell me how to map a Linux drive in Windows?  I found a guide to do it using Samba but it's really old.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[08:44] <omegazepher> isilol, You have a big problem, greek sheepinduced static variables
[08:45] <robdeman> Hi folks, what is the best way for a VPN? I like to be able to use Windows networking from my laptop to access the Linux server -- maybe by tunneling Samba or something like that?
[08:45] <jrib> fuffal0: whatismyip.org will show you the ip that the server sees.  For example if I use a socks proxy through ssh, it will show my ip of my server that I ssh to.  For "remote-X" there's system > perferences > remote desktop
[08:45] <gglser> lakcaj: thanks a lot!
[08:45] <py_geek> ALL: I dont have the option to change my screen width to 1024x(whatever the standard is..). I have configured my xorg file but it still dosent work. I have tried to edit it manually but i mess everything up... anyone know how to fix this? have a dell inspiron 1100...?
[08:45] <isilol> omegazepher: help the people : P
[08:45] <omegazepher> robdeman, I use apache for that
[08:45] <Hungry_Wolf> anybody know how to fix the "no sound problem on ubuntu 7.04"?
[08:45] <robdeman> omegazepher: Apache -- what exactly?
[08:45] <sam4654> what port range should a choose a port for azureus from?
[08:45] <omegazepher> py_geek, Remove all the other resolutions, save and restart
[08:46] <Tom47> robdeman: ssh is a good way to go
[08:46] <mc44> !fixres | py_geek
[08:46] <ubotu> py_geek: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:46] <omegazepher> robdeman, Just apache, and put a softlink to the files you want to share in the webroot
[08:46] <konam> there's someone here using azureus under feisty? i'm having problems with it
[08:46] <CerebroJD> using: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:46] <omegazepher> robdeman, not all that shiney, but it works for me.
[08:46] <CerebroJD> doesnt work, tryin to find the net connection I think
[08:46] <shitwolf> Hi! does anyone  with a radeon-card here have experience with the ati.com fglrx drivers vs. the open-source 'radeon' xorg driver?
[08:46] <Vastlee_> Question Please:  Could someone tell me how to map a Linux drive in Windows?  I found a guide to do it using Samba but it's really old.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[08:47] <robdeman> omegazepher: mmm well Im looking for a true VPN solution actually?
[08:47] <sam4654> konam install firestarter and configure your firewall through it
[08:47] <sam4654> it worked for me
[08:47] <speedo_> anyone could tell me how install the .bin files?
[08:47] <mc44> CerebroJD: what error do you get?
[08:47] <omegazepher> robdeman, understandable. Did you check google? "ubuntu vpn"
[08:47] <CerebroJD> Couldnt find package
[08:47] <jrib> speedo_: what are you trying to install?
[08:48] <speedo_> java
[08:48] <omegazepher> Vastlee, What did you do so far?
[08:48] <jrib> !java > speedo_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:48] <chrisjw> what's the best way to make deb packages?
[08:48] <Tom47> Vastlee try working through System>Administration>Shared Folders
[08:48] <jrib> chrisjw: help.ubuntu.com see the "packaging guide"
[08:48] <davidisko> why there is not an mysql5.1 in ubuntu feisty?
[08:48] <Hungry_Wolf> help needed: my laptop got no sound output.
[08:48] <sam4654> konam you can choose a port for azureus and then enable it in firestarter and then you should get no more speed problems
[08:48] <Tom47> !sound > Hungry_Wolf
[08:48] <mc44> CerebroJD: hmm, when you did apt-cdrom add, was there an error or anything?
[08:48] <Vastlee_> Thanks Tom, will do
[08:48] <jrib> davidisko: because 5.1 was probably released after feisty was frozen?
[08:49] <robdeman> omegazepher: yeah but I get a lot of info on how to connect to a Windows server... not on how to use the Linux machien as server and then configure my WinXP laptop as client
[08:49] <CerebroJD> mc44 it asked me to insert a disc, which I did, then press enter (which I also did :P)
[08:49] <CerebroJD> it appeared to mount fine
[08:49] <phatbob> Hi all, I am trying to install kubuntu / ubuntu. Everytime I try and install I get frozen at a screen saying 'Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives" Searched various forums for answers but cannot resolve
[08:49] <sam4654> what is port 1900 and SSDP? and why does it keep trying to access my computer?
[08:49] <mc44> CerebroJD: could you do "less /etc/apt/sources.list" and see if the CD is in there
[08:50] <jrcdude> Hi, can someone please help me with my Wireless internet?
[08:50] <CerebroJD> hmm, no such file/directory
[08:50] <jrib> davidisko: I'm reading the wikipedia page on mysql and it says 5.1 hasn't even been released
[08:51] <omegazepher> robdeman, http://kerneltrap.org/node/5018
[08:51] <phreaky_> If i got 20 zipfiles in 1 directory, and want to unzip all at the same time, with unzip.. how do i write that? Unzip *.zip does not work =(
[08:51] <mc44> CerebroJD: er,,, that cant be right :) sure you typed it in correctly :)
[08:51] <jrib> phreaky_: for file in *.zip; do unzip $file; done
[08:51] <jrib> phreaky_: for same time, you may want to surround the unzip stuff in ()
[08:51] <speedo_> i 've just done it
[08:51] <mc44> CerebroJD: NO quotes :)
[08:51] <jrcdude> Hi, can someone please help me with my Wireless internet?
[08:51] <gglser> lakcaj: ok thanks i installed it, but how do I click ok at the agreement section??
[08:51] <speedo_> but i can't run frostwire
[08:52] <isilol> jrcdude: what is the problem?
[08:52] <jrib> speedo_: what error do you get when you try 'frostwire' in a terminal?
[08:52] <lakcaj> gglser, just keeping pressing <enter> until you get a yes/no (or something like that)
[08:52] <Tom47> usser getting at your privates is he
[08:52] <gglser> lakcaj: got it. thanks a bunch
[08:52] <CerebroJD> haha, I figured no quotes...
[08:52] <phatbob> Hi all, I am trying to install kubuntu / ubuntu. Everytime I try and install I get frozen at a screen saying 'Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives" Searched various forums for answers but cannot resolve
[08:52] <CerebroJD> whoah and it works now
[08:52] <phreaky_> jrib, thanks alot.. that was to hard to guess xD
[08:52] <omegazepher> robdeman, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=349922
[08:52] <usser> Tom47: damn right =)
[08:52] <Booler> Greetings
[08:53] <omegazepher> robdeman, http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=132029
[08:53] <speedo_> it tells me that i have a too old
[08:53] <jrcdude> isilol: talk in private chat?
[08:53] <CerebroJD> wait a second.... mc44, if I have the feisty disc, can I do the instructions for Feisty instead of Edgy?
[08:53] <omegazepher> robdeman, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[08:53] <robdeman> should I go for pptpd or openvpn?
[08:53] <mc44> CerebroJD: no, the feisty instruction involve using X :)
[08:53] <speedo_> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or
[08:53] <jrib> phreaky_: np
[08:53] <robdeman> pptp is a Microsoft invention and not quite secure, is it?
[08:53] <CerebroJD> hmm
[08:53] <CerebroJD> the cd is listed in there
[08:53] <roadfish> how can I change the label on my SD or harddrive partition?
[08:53] <CerebroJD> (the sources.list)
[08:54] <davidisko> jrib: so you're reading bad.. mysql -v
[08:54] <davidisko> Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
[08:54] <davidisko> Your MySQL connection id is 350530
[08:54] <davidisko> Server version: 5.1.16-beta FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.1.16
[08:54] <davidisko> Reading history-file /home/davidisko/.mysql_history
[08:54] <davidisko> Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.
[08:54] <konam> sam4654 i've done that already, and the NAT is green.
[08:54] <omegazepher> robdeman, Honestly. i dont have a clue
[08:54] <jrib> davidisko: please don't paste here
[08:54] <jrcdude> isilol: can we talk in private chat?????
[08:54] <speedo_> so i have downloaded a new version of java
[08:54] <konam> sam4654 what port do you choose for azureus?
[08:54] <speedo_> it's a .bin file
[08:54] <usser> robdeman: i use openvpn, which not always compatible, luckily they have a windows client too
[08:54] <mc44> CerebroJD: can you do "apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx"
[08:54] <Booler> anyone versed in ipcop troubleshooting?
[08:54] <isilol> yea jrcdude, i am messaging you :  )
[08:54] <sam4654> konam 57559
[08:54] <jrcdude> isilol: ok :D
[08:54] <davidisko> jrib: that's an answer why the mysql51 isn't in feisty?
[08:54] <usser> robdeman: hell of pain in the ass to setup though
[08:54] <CerebroJD> unable to locate package
[08:55] <sam4654> konam i think theres a certain range of good ports and i know that 57559 is in it
[08:55] <omegazepher> jrib, its a beta
[08:55] <ionus> how i can to see rusian lang in amarok
[08:55] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok. I am idiot. Do "apt-get update"
[08:55] <robdeman> ok I think I should instal pptpd then
[08:55] <jrib> davidisko: huh?
[08:55] <cybe> I have a little problem, and hope someone can help me: I have a 500 GB harddisk wich is formatted in FAT32 at the moment, but i need to have files bigger than 4GB on it. But wich filesystem should i use? People get files from my harddisk often, and they all use Windows, it would be a hard job to make all of them install an ext3 driver... I could install NTFS read/write on my Ubuntu, but that might mess up all the files right? And couldn't
[08:55] <cybe>  the ext3 driver do the same ?
[08:55] <lajos> Can anybody help me how can i setup the compiz on ubuntu 7.04? i have ati card
[08:55] <CerebroJD> mc44: could not open lock file
[08:55] <ionus> how i can to see rusian lang in amarok
[08:55] <isilol> jrcdude: do you read me? maybe you can try talking private querying me
[08:55] <ionus> !amarok
[08:55] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[08:56] <CerebroJD> (btw, what does 'sudo' mean?)
[08:56] <speedo_> anyone who have installed Frostwire on feisty fawn
[08:56] <davidisko> does anyone know why mysql5.1 isn't in feisty?
[08:56] <speedo_> ?
[08:56] <mc44> CerebroJD: it means you run as root
[08:56] <frutax> Hello, I'm running Feisty and I'm not sure if this is an ubuntu problem, but I'm not sure where else to put it right now: My DVD player easily recognizes some DVDs (e. g. Blade Runner), but spends forever reading, and then doesn't recognize others (e. g. Arrested Development). The strange part is I remember it recognizing some yesterday that it isn't today. Does this sound like hardware or...
[08:56] <frutax> ...software?
[08:56] <jrcdude> isilol: can you just join channel #jrcdude ?
[08:56] <mc44> CerebroJD: yes sorry, use "sudo apt-get update"
[08:56] <fuffal0> how do i make default squid anonymize my browsing (give the proxy ip instead of mine)
[08:56] <omegazepher> cybe, you could put the big drive on a linux pc and share the disk over samba
[08:56] <CerebroJD> huge bunch of 'could not resolve' errors, mc44
[08:56] <Tom47> robdeman http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-ssh.html
[08:57] <mc44> CerebroJD: yeah dont worry, no internet
[08:57] <CerebroJD> ok
[08:57] <mc44> CerebroJD: now try installing again
[08:57] <Hungry_Wolf> i need help to solve the no sound problem.. :(
[08:57] <CerebroJD> Mc44: Couldnt find package
[08:57] <mc44> CerebroJD: gah!
[08:57] <mc44> CerebroJD: sure you have the package name right? :)
[08:57] <CerebroJD> No kiddin eh lol
[08:57] <stone_> Hello.How to remove last text line in the file??
[08:58] <robdeman> ok thanks all I have a lotta info to process...
[08:58] <cybe> omegazepher, yes i know - but the file transfer is only 100mb/s then. But it might be the only solution if not the NTFS writing is reliable yet?
[08:58] <robdeman> :)
[08:58] <lajos> Any body who have experience feisty, compiz with ati card?
[08:58] <Vastlee> If you have a drive shared in Ubuntu Fiesty on the workgroup of "HOME" should you be able to see that in windows?\
[08:58] <Dybber> How do I restart gnome-panel?
[08:58] <willzzz> who here has fglrx experience
[08:58] <willzzz> ala the ATI Linux driver
[08:58] <sam4654> how do i do a port whois on port 52599?
[08:58] <usser> willzzz: i do
[08:58] <willzzz> (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI
[08:58] <willzzz> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[08:58] <willzzz> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[08:58] <willzzz> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[08:58] <willzzz> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[08:58] <willzzz> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[08:58] <Tom47> lajos it no workee
[08:58] <willzzz> i did the manual install from the wiki
[08:58] <usser> willzzz: dont paste here use !pastebin
[08:58] <CerebroJD> mc44: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:58] <willzzz> k will do in the future
[08:58] <omegazepher> cybe, I did not have any problems with it. but its still not stable. Might get buggered with permissions as well
[08:59] <willzzz> !pastebin
[08:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:59] <lajos> tom47: is dosnt work?
[08:59] <mc44> Crescendo: try apt-cache search xorg fglrx
[08:59] <omegazepher> cybe, 100 mb/s isn`t enough?
[08:59] <usser> willzzz: it says right there (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad
[08:59] <CerebroJD> I presume you mean CerebroJD? lol
[08:59] <mc44> CerebroJD: er.. yes :)
[08:59] <Tom47> lajos for a better coverage of beryl etc try #ubuntu-effects
[08:59] <usser> willzzz: did u install from apt-get or using ati installer?
[08:59] <lajos> tom47: ok
[08:59] <willzzz> ati installer with the instructions from the wiki
[08:59] <robert98374> anyone know of a guide to install nautilus scripts for newbs?
[09:00] <willzzz> and it installed the kernel module from the generated *.deb files
[09:00] <Hungry_Wolf> anyone can help me out?
[09:00] <cybe> omegazepher:  Were talking big files, and a lot of them... And it would just be easiest if it was directly connected... I might look into NTFS, but i would really hate to loose 500 GB of data
[09:00] <CerebroJD> ahh its listed, but not as the same as the instructions
[09:00] <omegazepher> Hungry_Wolf, What chipset does your sondcard have?
[09:00] <DanielHolth> Hi, I wonder whether there's another program that can automatically transfer podcasts to a media device, besides Amarok which is sometimes too slow (and which apparently doesn't work if I use fast user switching, and am the second user).
[09:00] <mc44> CerebroJD: what does it say?
[09:00] <jrib> robert98374: you can use nautilus-script-manager, though it's still cli I believe
[09:00] <omegazepher> cybe, I hear that :/
[09:00] <DanielHolth> The perfect program would also delete older files from the media device.
[09:00] <CerebroJD> xserver-xorg-video-ati - X.org X Server -- Ati display driver
[09:01] <wael95> can i use PSP on linux ?
[09:01] <davidisko> does anyone know why mysql5.1 isn't in feisty?
[09:01] <mc44> CerebroJD: no thats the wrong one
[09:01] <CerebroJD> mmmkay
[09:01] <usser> willzzz: are u sure that u installed fglrx-kernel... package
[09:01] <CerebroJD> thats the only one there
[09:01] <mc44> CerebroJD: do you have restricted enabled?
[09:01] <phatbob> Hey, can anyone help me with a new install issue?
[09:01] <omegazepher> cybe, NTFS Reading is splendid. its the writing that gives the problems
[09:01] <usser> willzzz: what video card u have?
[09:01] <jrib> robert98374: also see http://www.gnome.org/learn/users-guide/latest/gosnautilus-440.html
[09:01] <willzzz> radeon 9800 pro, supported by the driver
[09:01] <CerebroJD> I dont know... I dont think I've done anything to enable it
[09:01] <usser> willzzz: because old ones prior to 9200 are no longer supported
[09:01] <cybe> omegazepher, I know but i will be doing a lot of writing
[09:01] <usser> willzzz: oh ok
[09:01] <willzzz> yes i installed the fglrx-kernel pkg from the *.deb generated by the ati-installer
[09:02] <willzzz> i did this because after the upgrade to 7.04 is suddenly reverted back to MESA
[09:02] <robert98374> jrib ok thanks illl check that out but where do i find the information on   nautilus-script-manager?
[09:02] <cybe> omegazepher, I am primarily using the harddisk on my own computer under Ubuntu... And thats where most files are written from. The ext3 driver might me more safe for me, but it would annoy a lot of people
[09:02] <mc44> CerebroJD: when you "less /etc/apt/sources.list" does the cdrom line have something like 'feisty main restricted' at the end?
[09:02] <usser> willzzz: hm weird, emm did u try installing drivers from the repository?
[09:03] <hwdeath> hi
[09:03] <_ry> Hi. My soundcard isn't working. Is there a way to run the install program's hardware detection/setup again?
[09:03] <willzzz> it has that installed
[09:03] <CerebroJD> yes, feisty main restricted
[09:03] <willzzz> eh maybe its conflicting
[09:03] <willzzz> if i uninstall the repo version
[09:03] <usser> willzzz: oh wait so u know have both??
[09:03] <herbaliser> hi just installed dvd::rip in ubuntu but it doesn't fit on my screen
[09:03] <mc44> CerebroJD: and that line doesnt have a # at the start
[09:03] <usser> willzzz: thats no good
[09:03] <jrib> robert98374: well I just tried it and it only manages nautilus-script-audio-convert and nautilus-script-collection-svn (pacakges you can install) so it's probably not what you want.  Easier to just copy yours to ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[09:03] <herbaliser> i can't see the whole program settings
[09:03] <sebus07> hey jest tu kto z polski ??????????
[09:03] <willzzz> my question is is the pkg 'xorg-driver-fglrx ' from the repo shown on my system
[09:03] <herbaliser> anybody know how i can resize this?
[09:03] <Jay2> i installed a base system without creating a user account, what do i use for the root password?
[09:04] <herbaliser> Jay2 sudo -s gives you root
[09:04] <hwdeath> has anyone had their /etc/group file foobared when adding groups or trying to assign groups to directory's?
[09:04] <CerebroJD> mc44, no it doesnt.  The line above it does, but thats the Edgy one (dunno why thats there)
[09:04] <willzzz> that PKG only or does the ati installer generate a second pkg with the same name>?
[09:04] <asherZ> how do i change the RWIN in Ubuntu Fiesty
[09:04] <robert98374> jrib ok will try that too
[09:04] <Jay2> yes, but im stuck on the ubuntu login screen. how can i even get to a shell?
[09:04] <mc44> CerebroJD: when you update they are commented out. Ok this is weird. try "cd /media/cdrom"
[09:04] <usser> willzzz: i'd suggest u wipe out everything switch to vesa driver and start from installing from the repo since its easier
[09:05] <omegazepher> cybe, Just smack your users and make them use linux. But sorry, I dont have any other ideas (except mixing virtual machines and samba shares in them and a lot of weirdness
[09:05] <CerebroJD> cm44, worked I think
[09:05] <_ry> Jay2: hit ctl+alt+1
[09:05] <CerebroJD> *mc44
[09:05] <_ry> then use a blank passwd
[09:05] <_ry> and login as root
[09:05] <Jay2> thanks
[09:05] <_ry> to get back
[09:05] <_ry> hit ctl+alt+7
[09:05] <hwdeath> can anyone post an /etc/group file from a fresh install mine got messed up somehow and I can't sudo anymore.
[09:05] <usser> willzzz: wipe everything that has to do with fglrx rather
[09:05] <CerebroJD> this whole problem is frustrating... I dunno why the Live CD wouldnt work for 7.04 in the first place
[09:06] <brussel> So how hard is it to set up a mail server on ubuntu, can somebody walk me through it?
[09:06] <sam54435> usser are you here? I have 1 more problem with ut2004
[09:06] <mc44> CerebroJD: there is a bug with the ati cards
[09:06] <cybe> omegazepher, well your right! It is not my problem that they can't have access, they should use a good stable system instead of Windows, lol, I am going to format it in ext3 ;)
[09:06] <shawn34> brussel, there are plenty of how-to's on the net, google it
[09:06] <darwin> how can I back up my Firefox history?
[09:07] <hwdeath> can anyone help me?
[09:07] <usser> sam54435: sure
[09:07] <omegazepher> cybe, ^_^ Thats the spirit
[09:07] <kbrosnan> darwin, what version of firefox?
[09:07] <feistyman> Hello Everyone, I'm having trouble deleting a "locked" folder from my desktop. Any ideas on how to "trash" it?
[09:07] <_ry> Hi. Rerunning the hardward detection? anyone know?
[09:07] <mc44> CerebroJD: try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:07] <sam54435> usser how do I enable 1440X900 resolution?
[09:07] <usser> sam54435: shoot
[09:07] <robert98374> jrib total brain fart- where can i find the .gnome folder?
[09:07] <darwin> kbrosnan: 2.0.0.3
[09:07] <sam54435> usser atm I only have up to 1280X800
[09:08] <_ry> usser: no
[09:08] <shawn34> darwin, /home/username/.mozilla look in there
[09:08] <usser> sam54435: bugger huh, is your screen destop in 1440x900?
[09:08] <shawn34> darwin, you'll find 'history.dat'
[09:08] <_ry> usser: some sort of facial hair is required though
[09:08] <sam54435> usser yes it is
[09:08] <CerebroJD> mc44, done
[09:08] <brussel> shawn34: uh huh, i did first
[09:08] <mc44> CerebroJD: that worked ok?
[09:08] <sam54435> usser I think I need to edit one of the config files but im not sure which one
[09:08] <kbrosnan> darwin, history.dat
[09:08] <_ry> usser: this is why wo few women use linux.
[09:08] <robert98374> jrib or to that folder specificly cause i am not finding it
[09:09] <_ry> usser: well, except in eastern europe
[09:09] <usser> sam54435: sorry i've never used ut2004
[09:09] <CerebroJD> mc44, I think it did
[09:09] <stone_> Hello.How to remove last text line in the file??
[09:09] <CerebroJD> no errors...
[09:09] <darwin> kbrosnan: Thank you
[09:09] <usser> sam54435: played it
[09:09] <Chetwin> Hey all.  Do rythmbox and banshee share the same engine???
[09:09] <usser> sam54435: so i dont know about that
[09:09] <usser> _ry: heh
[09:09] <mc44> CerebroJD: did it say it was already installed, or did it install it?
[09:09] <hwdeath> I need to know the default groups the first user on a fresh install belongs to.
[09:09] <sam54435> usser lol how can you play it and not use it?
[09:09] <shawn34> brussel, stop being lazy people are going to hold your hand
[09:09] <hwdeath> my group setting got messed ups
[09:09] <hwdeath> *up
[09:09] <CerebroJD> said its already the newest version, set to manual installed.
[09:09] <usser> sam54435: i mean i've never played it
[09:10] <peepsalot> is there a way to use sshfs from a liveCD
[09:10] <brussel> shawn34: so you are saying ubuntu isn't for the people, just the nerds?
[09:10] <CerebroJD> 0 upgrade, 0 newsly installed
[09:10] <shawn34> brussel, i just searched "ubuntu set up mail server" in google and the first one in the list is what your looking for
[09:10] <sam54435> usser do you know of an unreal irc chatroom I could ask for help in?
[09:10] <davidisko> does anyone know why mysql5.1 isn't in feisty?
[09:10] <Booler> I cannot access the intarwebs from my main computer when my IPCOP is in place... any ideas?
[09:10] <Skaag> Hello there!!!!
[09:10] <MenZa> What's a good webcam apllication to adjust settings.
[09:10] <Skaag> ;-)
[09:10] <MenZa> !hi | Skaag
[09:10] <ubotu> Skaag: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:10] <DanielHolth> peesalot In Debinan, I had to say "modprobe fuse" and then ran the sshfs command without problems.
[09:10] <omegazepher> davidisko, It is in beta
[09:10] <brussel> well i used "ubuntu feisty mailserver godaddy" and didn't see anything i liked
[09:10] <SRed13> Help me please.  Dapper Server 6.06 trying to get a Dlink 650 / AR5212 pci card to work.
[09:10] <shawn34> brussel, why don't you try your self and WHEN YOU GET STUCK you come in here for help
[09:10] <jrib> robert98374: it's .gnome2.  It is in your home directory but you need to go to  view > show hidden files
[09:10] <hwdeath> wow some community support here
[09:10] <davidisko> omegazepher: where? how can i install it via apt?
[09:11] <Taladan> hwdeath - check /etc/default/useradd
[09:11] <robert98374> jrib thanks
[09:11] <usser> sam54435: no
[09:11] <DanielHolth> peepsalot if FUSE support or the sshfs command don't exist on the live cd, then it will be trickier.
[09:11] <Skaag> My box loads the sky2 driver for my syskonnect yukon card but it's buggy, I noticed the older sk98lin driver is also supplied, how do I tell my box to use that instead?
[09:11] <jrib> robert98374: you may need to create nautilus-scripts inside there yourself
[09:11] <sam54435> usser ok thanks
[09:11] <hwdeath> my /etc/group file got messed up
[09:11] <omegazepher> davidisko, I think 5.1 is still in beta, and therefor not in the repo`s. Try getting the sourcecode and compile it yourself
[09:11] <brussel> shawn34, why don't you just be helpful instead of making assumptions
[09:11] <hwdeath> I'm saying I can't sudo because I'm not in the groups I should be in
[09:11] <usser> sam54435: did u even see ut2004 to run in 1440x900 res even on windows?
[09:11] <peepsalot> DanielHolth, well the Fiesty liveCD doesn't have sshfs command.  which debian cd should I get?
[09:11] <davidisko> omegazepher: great..
[09:11] <shawn34> brussel, because people are lazy and don't want to learn just want people to do things for them
[09:12] <brussel> shawn34, thank you for your opinion, please move on
[09:12] <shawn34> brussel, shure thing
[09:12] <DanielHolth> peepsalot are you able to run "apt-get install" on the live cd?
[09:12] <DanielHolth> peepsalot I was not using a live cd at the time.
[09:12] <Taladan> your group file got messed up and you can't sudo?  Best bet is to do this:
[09:12] <hwdeath> Is there some kinda bug in usradd or grpadd that screwed up my /etc/group file?
[09:12] <SRed13> I've tried to do this on my own, I got NDSIwrapper, but I guess its for a different version of linux, the "make install" commands don't do anything
[09:12] <PolitikerNEU> yes, installing apps is supported in the live cd
[09:12] <binary0> evenings all :)
[09:12] <PolitikerNEU> I was able to install a programm
[09:12] <SRed13> hello
[09:13] <Flannel> davidisko: that's correct.  5.1 isn't a real release.  So it won't be in the repositories.  (Because 5.0 is stable).  What did you need from 5.1?
[09:13] <Taladan> pop your livecd in and mount your harddrive, copy over /etc/groups from livecd to /etc on your harddrive
[09:13] <peepsalot> DanielHolth, could not find package shfs
[09:13] <peepsalot> sshfs
[09:13] <omegazepher> davidisko, WHat does 5.1 have that 5.1 does not?
[09:13] <webjames> !sshfs
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <omegazepher> davidisko, Interest here :)
[09:13] <mc44> CerebroJD: did you use the livecd or the alternate cd? not that it should matter
[09:13] <ixian_> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz can someone tell me if they can grab that file or not? im trying to install flash and it cant seem to connect to that site
[09:13] <runa> i want to create a proxy server to host Z but i have to pass through host Y. How can i do that
[09:13] <webjames> !ssh
[09:13] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:13] <CerebroJD> Alternat
[09:13] <CerebroJD> +e
[09:13] <Taladan> hwdeath: I've not had any issues with useradd, but I haven't messed with it since I ug to feisty
[09:13] <hwdeath> I don't think the server install has a live cd
[09:13] <omegazepher> davidisko,  WHat does 5.1 have that 5.0 does not?*
[09:13] <webjames> omegazepher: sshfs doesn't exist
[09:13] <cybe> omegazepher, I just got an idea, could I have 2 partitions on the drive or something, one in FAT32 which contains a setup-file for the ext3 for Windows, and a partition with all the other files in ext3
[09:13] <davidisko> omegazepher: creating databases with dot
[09:13] <hwdeath> I'm using 6.06 lts
[09:14] <feistyman> Can anyone help me unlock a "locked" file on my desktop?
[09:14] <Taladan> hwdeath - it should...or at least a recovery portion.
[09:14] <davidisko> Flannel: creating databases with dot
[09:14] <Flannel> hwdeath: no, it doesn't. server is a textmode installer, like alternate.  No Live system
[09:14] <peepsalot> webjames, you talking to me?
[09:14] <CerebroJD> mc44, I'll unmount it and switch to the liveCD if it might help
[09:14] <Taladan> hm
[09:14] <hwdeath> yea
[09:14] <mc44> CerebroJD: shouldnt make a difference :s
[09:14] <Taladan> taking it into recovery though should still be able to do it
[09:14] <cybe> feistyman: how locked?
[09:14] <webjames> peepsalot, i don't know
[09:14] <CerebroJD> Hmm ok, I'll leave it then
[09:14] <peepsalot> !info sshfs
[09:14] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB
[09:14] <omegazepher> cybe, you could also put the setup file on the ntfs part. from windows
[09:14] <Taladan> But don't know if the /etc/groups is going to be the same.
[09:14] <davidisko> omegazepher: i got about 30databases without dot and i don't want to change them
[09:14] <gpd> I am having strange issues with I82801CAIH3 on an Ubuntu Feisty laptop - everything looks fine but no sound.  The LiveCD works fine however.
[09:14] <hwdeath> that's what I need
[09:14] <Nolt> hello
[09:14] <robert98374> jrib i put it in the folder how do i make it so i can use it?
[09:14] <hwdeath> the /etc/groups settings
[09:15] <omegazepher> davidisko, Yeah, I can imagine.
[09:15] <Taladan> yes, i know...
[09:15] <peepsalot> i guess ihave to aler the sources.list on the livecd or something, is that possible
[09:15] <webjames> feistyman: try pressing ALT the n F2 the typing gksudo nautilus and then you can change the permissions as root
[09:15] <omegazepher> davidisko, I say compile from source
[09:15] <peepsalot> alter
[09:15] <Taladan> hm...well, you could always try it.
[09:15] <hwdeath> I'm not sure what the defaults where
[09:15] <feistyman> cybe, thank you. I transfered MYPictures file from Windows to my Linux desktop. There's a key icon on the file, and it won't let me delete it
[09:15] <Nolt> Who know good a Virtual PC and proftpd ?? please repond I got big problem
[09:15] <hwdeath> I'll make sure to back it up after I fix it.
[09:15] <_gtt_> chown it feisty
[09:15] <jrib> robert98374: did you make sure it was "executable"?
[09:15] <omegazepher> feistyman, thats because of the permitions
[09:15] <davidisko> omegazepher: but why there is not in apt? i got 5.1 o fbsd about two months ago..
[09:15] <gpd> on the installed version aplay -l gives subdevices: 0/1 whereas in the liveCD it says 1/1 - any pointers?
[09:15] <hwdeath> I never had that problem before
[09:15] <_gtt_> and then chmod it
[09:15] <peepsalot> this is a pain in the ass, isn't there a LiveCD with sshfs already on it?
[09:15] <robert98374> jrib sorry i am really new to Linux how do i do that?
[09:15] <Taladan> yeah, it's always a good idea to back any configuration files up anyways
[09:16] <omegazepher> davidisko, Dont know. Maybe some kind of incompatibility?
[09:16] <gpd> i think i need to set slave.pcm to something - but not sure what
[09:16] <jrib> robert98374: right click > properties > permisions
[09:16] <webjames> see you
[09:16] <_gtt_> i had some issues when i was setting up my samba... the default permissions were read only and the default owner was "nobody".
[09:16] <feistyman> omegazepher, how do I change the permission do I can delete it? So far , unsuccessful
[09:16] <sam453435> usser just to let you know 1440X900 is now working
[09:16] <cybe> feistyman, okay it seems you don't have the rights to delete it. Do you know how to open a terminal?
[09:16] <hwdeath> it happened when I tried to assign a group to /var/www
[09:16] <Nolt> anyone ??
[09:16] <_gtt_> feistyman - i just told ya
[09:16] <Nolt> Who know good a Virtual PC and proftpd ?? please repond I got big problem
[09:16] <feistyman> cybe, yes
[09:16] <usser> sam453435: nice how?
[09:16] <davidisko> omegazepher: what can't be incompatible about apt-build build-source?
[09:16] <sam453435> usser I don't know why but for some reason it started working and I didn't change anything
[09:16] <omegazepher> feistyman, sudo chmod 777 /path/to/file
[09:16] <mc44> jrib: know why xorg-driver-fglrx wouldnt be showing up with using a cd added to sources.list
[09:16] <usser> sam453435: hahaha dont u just love it?
[09:16] <_gtt_> feistyman - you may have to chown it too.
[09:16] <Taladan> why would you assign a group to that?
[09:16] <sam453435> usser lol
[09:16] <cybe> feistyman, Okay, try to delete it as root with the command: sudo rm FILENAME_HERE
[09:17] <sam453435> usser love what exactly?
[09:17] <usser> sam453435: when things start working for no apparent reason
[09:17] <robert98374> jrib on the script or on the ISO?
[09:17] <hwdeath> I wanted to share it with a friend so we could work on a web project together
[09:17] <jrib> robert98374: script
[09:17] <sam453435> usser yeah lol its great
[09:17] <robert98374> did that and stil nothing
[09:17] <Taladan> hwdeath: hm.
[09:18] <CerebroJD> mc44, how does apt-get know to look on the CD as well?
[09:18] <siloko> has anybody got a usb bluetooth dongle they would recommend?
[09:18] <mc44> CerebroJD: that line in the sources.list file
[09:18] <jrib> mc44: apt-get update?
[09:18] <mc44> jrib: tried that :s
[09:18] <mc44> CerebroJD: when you did apt-get update was there a line about the cd?
[09:19] <jrib> mc44: is it the alt cd?
[09:19] <robert98374> jrib sorry i mean it still nothign
[09:19] <mc44> jrib: yes
[09:19] <hwdeath> oh well I'm gonna go boot into safe mode and try to sort it out later
[09:19] <robert98374> *jrib nothing
[09:19] <jrib> robert98374: restart nautilus
[09:19] <runa> can sb help using ssh to make a proxy? i wanto to make a proxy to host Z but i have to pass through host Y
[09:19] <feistyman> cybe, the file is on my desktop. I changed the name to "pleasedelete". I tried that command, but it didn't work. Maybe it doesn't know where the file is, and I need to tell it that too?
[09:19] <CerebroJD> mc44, I dont know, the errors take up the whole screen.  it might be above that
[09:20] <robert98374> jrib sorry how do i do that? restart gnome completely? (log off/ctrl+alt+backspace)?
[09:20] <omegazepher> feistyman,  sudo rm ~/Desktop/deleteme
[09:20] <eduardo> someone now any chanel about ubuntu in spanish?
[09:20] <MenZa> !es | eduardo
[09:20] <ubotu> eduardo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:20] <graft> hi, how do i get midi playback working?
[09:20] <cybe> feistyman, yes. You opened the terminal right? Then write "cd Desktop" and press Enter, you should now be at the right location, then write "sudo rm pleasedelete"
[09:20] <jrib> robert98374: 'killall nautilus' ina  terminal should do it
[09:20] <eduardo> Gracias
[09:21] <cybe> feistyman, It should the ask your for your password, and then remove the file without any problems
[09:21] <graft> !midi
[09:21] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:21] <Varsendaggr> i am having some issues with gnome...   how do i purge the configure files and reinstall it?
[09:21] <CerebroJD> mc44, just | less'd it, checking now
[09:21] <atu> After restarting my computer, I am unable to boot into X.  I get the errors @ http://paste.cheerupfuck.net/156  Any ideas?  I've reinstalled the nvidia drivers (both glx and glx-new)
[09:21] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok :)
[09:21] <jimmyxx> hey guys i've just upgraded from edgy to feisty on my laptop and for some reason i cant get into postgres (updated to 8.2 instead of 8.1), i've tried 'sudo passwd postgres' but still can't get in? any ideas?
[09:22] <omegazepher> Varsendaggr, try deleting all the .gnome* things in your home
[09:22] <CerebroJD> remembering some terminal stuff from 3 weeks of a comp course with linux in it
[09:22] <mc44> CerebroJD: you can also use shift+pgup
[09:22] <RedRose> I deleted my Ubuntu partition and resized my Windows to include the freespace that I had gotten from the ubuntu partition, but now windows still sees it size as that from when the ubuntu partition was installed
[09:22] <feistyman> cybe, thanks for your help. It says "can't delete... It's a directory
[09:22] <nixnoob> anyone know how to use httptunnel?
[09:22] <CerebroJD> ok, the first 2 lines are the cd ones
[09:22] <CerebroJD> Ign cdrom://
[09:22] <jimmyxx> anyone know how to get postgres 8.2 listening on port 5432?
[09:23] <cybe> feistyman, okay, then you need to write "sudo rmdir pleasedelete"
[09:23] <robert98374> jrib thanks that made it work
[09:23] <omegazepher> feistyman, or sudo rm -t pleasedelete
[09:23] <omegazepher> feistyman, or sudo rm -r pleasedelete
[09:23] <omegazepher> sorry, typo
[09:23] <jrib> robert98374: k, in the future you should only need to visit ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/ in nautilus for the menu to be updated
[09:23] <feistyman> It says "directory not empty
[09:23] <Varsendaggr> hey what is the best way to get xgl with edgy?
[09:24] <mc44> CerebroJD: ug, thats not supposed to happen :)
[09:24] <omegazepher> feistyman, try  sudo rm -r pleasedelete
[09:24] <cybe> omegazepher, what does that command do? Can it also remove directories containing files?
[09:24] <CerebroJD> Ign = ignore?
[09:24] <omegazepher> cybe, remove recursivly. so the dir and all in it
[09:24] <mc44> CerebroJD: right
[09:24] <omegazepher> veeeery dangarous
[09:24] <omegazepher> dangerous*
[09:24] <CerebroJD> heh @ recursive deletion
[09:24] <ziggy23> how do I stop display of a man page short of closing the window
[09:25] <Varsendaggr> akk i can't even open up a terminal...
[09:25] <cybe> omegazepher, NICE! I have looked for that command for ages :P
[09:25] <CerebroJD> Instructor was very clear about that thing :-P
[09:25] <Tom47> ziggy23: q
[09:25] <omegazepher> cybe, *Bows*
[09:25] <ziggy23> thx
[09:25] <omegazepher> cybe, be very very VEEEERY carefull though
[09:25] <Varsendaggr> how does this happen?   i can't open up a terminal, or text or alot of thinngs?
[09:25] <omegazepher> it nuked more linuxes than you can count
[09:25] <cybe> omegazepher, why ?
[09:25] <usser> omegazepher: why?
[09:25] <usser> damn
[09:25] <feistyman> omegazepher and cybe, The file appears to be gone. I guess it doesn't bother sending it to the trash?
[09:26] <omegazepher> feistyman, yes rm skips the trash
[09:26] <CerebroJD> mc44, there are two entries for the cd in sources.list
[09:26] <CerebroJD> whoop[
[09:26] <lgc> Which one should I use, dpkg or dpkg-deb in order to install a package not from the repos?
[09:26] <CerebroJD> just the one
[09:26] <cybe> omegazepher, and thats why we have to be careful?
[09:26] <omegazepher> cybe, usser, well it doesn`t check. it doesn`t ask it just deletes
[09:26] <kitche> cybe usser using rm -r plus force is sorta like a format it's liek doing deltree c:\
[09:26] <nixnoob> feistyman why nt open nautilus as root and just delete the files that way
[09:26] <mc44> CerebroJD: shouldnt matter
[09:26] <feistyman> omegazepher, thank you very much. It's fine now. Thanks again.
[09:26] <usser> oh
[09:26] <siloko> how to you put the users name you are replying to at the beginning of your reply in x-chat?
[09:26] <omegazepher> DONT TRY "rm -r /" it deletes everything
[09:27] <feistyman> Cybe, it's fine now. Thanks for your help!
[09:27] <kitche> Silentvoice: type it out :)
[09:27] <ikonone> can I downgrage back to Edg?
[09:27] <ikonone> Edgy*
[09:27] <RedRose> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2598837#post2598837 <- Can anyone help me?
[09:27] <kitche> Silentvoice: sorry tab complete got ya :)
[09:27] <Varsendaggr> lgc, dpkg -i
[09:27] <Consty> Has anyone had problems getting a Intel HDA sound card to work with the realtek alc882 chipset?  I can't seem to get internal speakers to disable when plugging in headphones, and sound adjustments affect both no matter what.
[09:27] <omegazepher> siloko, type part of the name and hit <TAB>
[09:27] <atu> After restarting my computer, I am unable to boot into X.  I get the errors @ http://paste.cheerupfuck.net/156  Any ideas?  I've reinstalled the nvidia drivers (both glx and glx-new)
[09:27] <kitche> siloko: type it out
[09:27] <ThinkBox> help... I cnnot get my gui if I do a normal bot, but if I go to the single use console from frub, and telinit 2 then my graphics work great, as does everything else
[09:27] <Tom47> siloku type a few letters of the nick and press tab
[09:27] <lgc> Varsendaggr, thanks.
[09:27] <cybe> feistyman, No problem, I learned from it myself ;D
[09:27] <CerebroJD> mc44, its 'ign''d two different cdrom thiings... one feisty/main and one feist/restricted
[09:27] <CerebroJD> *feisty
[09:27] <siloko> omegazepher: ahh great thanks :)
[09:27] <mc44> CerebroJD: hmm. The cd is in the drive, right? :)
[09:27] <CerebroJD> Yep
[09:27] <mc44> and mounted?
[09:27] <fotoflo> hmm i just did a cat * |grep string in a dir with lots of files in it,  how do i get cat to tell me which file i am catting on each line?
[09:28] <CerebroJD> Yes
[09:28] <cybe> kitche, okay thanks
[09:28] <CerebroJD> it asked me to insert it before it mounted it
[09:28] <bagoun> !need help pls, is there some FLASH PLAYER for x86-64 arch?
[09:28] <omegazepher> bagoun, , no
[09:28] <omegazepher> L;(
[09:28] <usser> bagoun: u can use nspluginwrapper
[09:28] <kitche> bagoun: no but you cna always install nspluginwrapper and use x86 flash
[09:28] <jrib> bagoun: http://www.janvitus.netsons.org/2007/01/15/nspluginwrapper-adobe-flash-player/
[09:28] <Consty> Has anyone had problems getting a Intel HDA sound card to work with the realtek alc882 chipset?  I can't seem to get internal speakers to disable when plugging in headphones, and sound adjustments affect both no matter what.
[09:29] <ekidd> My congrats to the Ubuntu MythTV team. That was a *much* easier install than the last time I set this box up.
[09:29] <bagoun> tanks a load guys
[09:29] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok, do you want to do this a hackish way? :) do you have a usb key or someting you can use to transfer a file to that pc?
[09:29] <CerebroJD> Yep, got a 128 meg jumpdrive right here
[09:29] <ironcladlou> i just installed the sun jdk 1.5 package, but can't figure out where the thing is actually located on disk so i can set java_home properly. i can see a directory and a symlink in /usr/lib for  java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.11, but when i actually try to cd to the directory, bash says it doesn't exist (!). tab completion doesn't work with it either. what the heck?
[09:29] <CerebroJD> cleaned and ready for moving stuff
[09:29] <RedRose> I have a problem with my partitions, can anyone please help me
[09:29] <siloko> anyone use a usb bluetooth adapter in feisty?
[09:29] <CerebroJD> no other linux systems at the moment tho, just to let ya know
[09:30] <bobbyd> hi
[09:30] <mjk> Where has http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship vanished to? Someone on #debian wanted to know about the differences between Ubuntu and Debian, and I wanted to point him to this page.
[09:30] <jimmyxx> since i updated to feisty i can't get my postgres8.2 database working can anyone help?
[09:30] <XangelusX> caida
[09:31] <jijutm> i am trying to configure slapd on ubuntu.. successful 90% but when the server itself is configured to authenticate from LDAP, the password is asked twice
[09:31] <nixnoob1> mjk, there is no dif, just the packages that each comes with
[09:31] <Tom47> bagoun http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[09:31] <beland> do anyone here have a gp2x?
[09:31] <eternal_p> hi all...is acroread in the repositories for feisty dawn?
[09:31] <bobbyd> I just installed Feisty on my new Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop. The dvd-rom drive is *really* slow like the dma isn't turned on. I tried hdparm -d but that didn't work so I guess something must have changed with the setup, does anyone have any tips to get it fixed?
[09:31] <mjk> nixnoob1: Errr ... are you serious? The only difference is the packages?!
[09:31] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok :) it should be much quicker than this usually, stupid bug
[09:31] <bobbyd> beland: I have a GP32 :)
[09:31] <mc44> CerebroJD: get this file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.34.8+2.6.20.5-15.20_i386.deb
[09:31] <mjk> nixnoob1: No differences in policies, release cycles etc.?!
[09:32] <CerebroJD> I know its normally faster... 6.10 installed with NO problems at all! :-D
[09:32] <RedRose> Can I use baobab to map something like /dev/sda
[09:32] <nixnoob1> mjk, releases come every 6 months, what do u mean by policies?
[09:32] <Tom47> eternal_p: yes
[09:32] <Nolt> Hey guys. I got only text-base system, anyone know why I can't install propetly an graphical interface ? I mean i tryied install lightweight fluxbox+xserver-xorg and nothing it doesnt works... Anyone knows where lies a problems ??
[09:32] <beland> bobbyd: do you have any idea why my tv-out isn't working ?
[09:32] <mjk> nixnoob1: license policies etc., like what licences are considered free etc.
[09:32] <eternal_p> Tom47: which repository, I cannot find it
[09:32] <ironcladlou> from ls -la /usr/lib/j*     drwxr-xr-x  10 root root  4096 2007-05-05 15:17 java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.11
[09:32] <ironcladlou>    however: cd /usr/lib/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.11  yields '  No such file or directory'
[09:32] <bobbyd> beland: on the gp2x? nope I only have a gp32
[09:33] <jordan> Hey guys, I installed beryl and made it start automatically when I login, but when I do the splash showing its loading nautilus and stuff stays up
[09:33] <beland> ok
[09:33] <nixnoob1> mjk, not sure about that all i know is that ubuntu is debian based
[09:33] <kekos> hello, I have a printer Brother DSC110C an I have installed the drivers that is in their web page
[09:33] <Tom47> eternal_p: have you got universe and multiverse set?
[09:33] <mjk> nixnoob1: Anyway, I wonder why Ubuntu.com took the page down, which explained the relationship between Debian and Ubuntu.
[09:33] <kekos> but when I go to printers it doesn't appear
[09:33] <adz|laptop> hello, I would like to install ubuntu form a network boot but am having some trouble in doing so
[09:33] <kekos> hello, I have a printer Brother DSC110C an I have installed the drivers that is in their web page
[09:33] <eternal_p> Tom47: yup
[09:33] <kekos> but when I go to printers it doesn't appear
[09:33] <Nolt> ??
[09:33] <blue|palm> Hi, can anybody tell me if there is a 'total copy' equivalent available on Linux? I can't really find anything
[09:34] <adz|laptop> I cannot exactly understand what I should do
[09:34] <Tom47> eternal_p: ok maybe its in the canonical commercial repo
[09:34] <RedRose071> I deleted my Ubuntu partition and resized my Windows to include the freespace that I had gotten from the ubuntu partition, but now windows still sees it size as that from when the ubuntu partition was installed
[09:34] <uadrian> hey all, installed gisomount, but its not english by default. is there any way to change it? 2: how can I make my 'window list' at bottom to show it in 2 lines?
[09:34] <eternal_p> Tom47: do you have al ink for that?
[09:34] <kekos> can somebody tell me where can i find a manual to install it properly
[09:34] <kekos> ?
[09:34] <nixnoob1> mjk, ubuntu is probably more user friendly/gui oriented than debian as far as use of the OS otherwise i think its almost identical
[09:35] <sphynx> hi all!
[09:35] <omegazepher> mjk, Ubuntu = userfrienly, debian = stability. packages are tweaked for those purposes
[09:35] <Tom47> eternal_p: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial
[09:35] <nixnoob1> mjk,  ubuntu uses apt and .deb and all that stuff.
[09:35] <omegazepher> sphynx, Hey!
[09:35] <eternal_p> Tom47: ty
[09:35] <eternal_p> Tom47: not in there, lol
[09:35] <cybe> I have no place to backup my 500 GB of data from my external hard drive, is there any way to change to filesystem to ext3 without deleting my files?
[09:35] <mjk> omegazepher, nixnoob1: Okay, thanks!
[09:36] <MrStein> v7.04 does not boot inside VMware or VirtualBox. Is that known ?
[09:36] <MrStein> cybe: there is a script for doing that
[09:36] <jordan> MrStein: you need beta 6 for 7.04
[09:36] <omegazepher> MrStein, Not to me. Nevertried though
[09:36] <uadrian> cybe, from what? anyway no matter, im sure I wouldnt try that if they are important data
[09:36] <bgrupe> MrStein: it does boot there vor me
[09:36] <nixnoob1> this brute force is taking forever....
[09:36] <cybe> From FAT32
[09:36] <zsh> hi. i want to set up internet connection sharing through a box runnning xubuntu so i bought a new nic and plugged it in. however it doesnt come up on the networking configuration dialog. is there a sort of plug and play for nics on xubuntu
[09:36] <sphynx> After hibernating of Feisty my networking doesn't work, I'm using WPA-based wireless connection and I'm using wpa_supplicant , my driver is ipw2200. Could you please point where should I add some string, for wpa_supplicant restoring.
[09:36] <Tom47> eternal_p: gee it also be in medibuntu
[09:37] <nixnoob1> zsh network-manager?
[09:37] <LMZ> hello to all
[09:37] <needhelp> Question - why do I get 500 Internal Server Error while trying to access a .cgi file ?
[09:37] <cybe> MrStein uadrian It is from FAT32, and i have to do it no matter if i risk loosing my data... You know a script?
[09:37] <zsh> nixnoob1: yeah
[09:37] <mc44> CerebroJD: got that file?
[09:37] <nixnoob1> zsh, xubuntu right?
[09:37] <eternal_p> Tom47: round 3 :)
[09:37] <zsh> nixnoob1: yes
[09:38] <omegazepher> sphynx, I had the same problem in Ubuntu 6. wpa works out of the box in Feisty for me though
[09:38] <LMZ> I have torrent problem, I can't download any torrents (Im firewalled), help please
[09:38] <MrStein> bgrupe: details of your setup , please ? I have vmware server 1.03 and vbox 1.3.8 on WinXP
[09:38] <MrStein> jordan: beta 6 ? You mean vmware v6 ?
[09:38] <jijutm> i think no one is interested in LDAP
[09:38] <Tom47> eternal_p: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[09:38] <eternal_p> Tom47: that was the repository, thank you
[09:38] <omegazepher> LMZ, Open a port in the firewall
[09:38] <CerebroJD> mc44, yep, just puttin it on there
[09:38] <jordan> mrstein yes
[09:38] <nixnoob1> zsh, I know gnome has network-manager i dunno about Xfce
[09:38] <jimmyxx> please help me fix my postgres :( i think ive lost my database
[09:38] <bgrupe> MrStein: I've got vmware ws 6 on vista
[09:38] <nixnoob1> zsh google it
[09:38] <MrStein> cybe : fsconvert ? I don?t remeber. Ask google
[09:38] <jimmyxx> i've just upgraded to feisty :(
[09:38] <eternal_p> Tom47: (good timing too, their website just went down)
[09:38] <LMZ> I can't do this. I only can download thru firewall
[09:38] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok plug it in then cd /media
[09:38] <uadrian> cybe, might be. You sure they are not important data so dont blame me if you lose them :)
[09:38] <needhelp> Question - why do I get 500 Internal Server Error while trying to access a .cgi file ?
[09:39] <zsh> nixnoob1: tried that. i'll try again
[09:39] <sphynx> omegazepher, networkManager doesn't work stable for me, so I don't use it
[09:39] <borzen> Hay is there any way to uninstall grub
[09:39] <cybe> uadrian: of course not ;) But I will look through the data first
[09:39] <sphynx> omegazepher, it breaks connection unexpectedly, and some other issues occured also
[09:39] <cybe> MrStein, okay... I Just found this on google: "You can't convert it. You need to move data somewhere else, redo the file system as ext3 (mkfs -j), and copy the data back to it. FAT32 and ext3 are completely different file systems. It is unlikely there's a tool that does conversion. (as a side note, even NTFS (where such conversion is possible) that was converted from FAT/FAT32 is not exactly the same thing as "native" NTFS).", so maybe it
[09:39] <cybe>  is only possible for NTFS :(
[09:40] <usser> borzen: i hope u have a good reason for that?
[09:40] <nixnoob1> network-manager is really buggy
[09:40] <LMZ> omegazepher, I can't do this. I only can download thru firewall :( and any client does not work :(
[09:40] <sphynx> nixnoob1, very buggy :)
[09:40] <borzen> Grub wont let me get in to XP and has screw up my whole system
[09:40] <CerebroJD> mc44, ok
[09:40] <MrStein> cybe: read my lips: there is a script to convert in place many different filesystems. On linux. I won't google for you.
[09:40] <CerebroJD> its in, I'm in /media
[09:40] <omegazepher> LMZ ask your system administrator to open a port
[09:40] <mc44> CerebroJD: now ls
[09:40] <borzen> Then i want to reinstall it
[09:40] <cybe> MrStein, Okay, i will look for it then ^_^
[09:40] <mc44> CerebroJD: the usb should be "disk" or something
[09:40] <hierro> http://linuxtrade.rkkda.com/
[09:41] <CerebroJD> cdrom and cdrom0
[09:41] <CerebroJD> also: whoah color!
[09:41] <blue|palm> Is there a linux application that allows: pause/resume/fixing/speed limiting etc
[09:41] <MrStein> cybe : lok for "convertfs" , fisrt hit
[09:41] <uadrian> cybe, in windows, and in theory you can convert fat32 to ntfs although its crashed for me long ago
[09:41] <blue|palm> Is there a linux application that allows: pause/resume/fixing/speed limiting etc when copying files from drive to drive
[09:41] <Siph0n> 'p9st
[09:41] <uadrian> I installed gisomount, but its not english by default. is there any way to change it? 2: how can I make my 'window list' at bottom to show it in 2 lines?
[09:41] <Siph0n> oops
[09:41] <MrStein> cybe : look for "convertfs" , first hit
[09:41] <cybe> MrStein, okay thanks!
, he promised me this many months :), what client can download thru firewall ?
[09:41] <nixnoob1> uadrian not on an active drive
[09:41] <kane__> Hi
[09:41] <Pickles222> /exit
[09:41] <mc44> CerebroJD: dmesg | tail
[09:42] <mc44> CerebroJD: does it show the usb added?
[09:42] <sphynx> ehhhh, so nobody knows how should I restore wpa_supplicant after hibernating Feisty? :(
[09:42] <omegazepher> Because the firewall was designed to block the very thing you are tying to do
[09:42] <omegazepher> Hmm
[09:42] <borzen> Can anybody help me get grub to like my partition mounts. I doesn't right now.
[09:42] <CerebroJD> negative, but when I plugged it in, it said something about adduming drive cache: write through
[09:42] <LMZ> omegazepher, I understand, but under Windows I can do this...
[09:42] <kitche> borzen: what does yor menu.lst look like
[09:43] <borzen> umm right now im useing the live CD
[09:43] <nixnoob1> an 8 char brute force shouldn't take 10 hours,, should it?
[09:43] <omegazepher> LMZ, What client do you use on windows? What port does it use?
[09:43] <omegazepher> nixnoob1, At least
[09:43] <kitche> borzen: you can still pastebin it if you mount the partitoin
[09:43] <LMZ> utorrent
, utorrent
[09:43] <omegazepher> LMZ, What port?
[09:44] <omegazepher> Try using the same in linux
, I was not connactable at the tracker status, where I can see what port?
[09:44] <borishnikov> hello
[09:44] <borishnikov> i need help installing a .tar.gz package
[09:44] <borishnikov> its to install pidgin
[09:45] <borzen> Well i mouted it alot cuz Ubuntu screded up when i upgraded
[09:45] <omegazepher> LMZ, Not a clue. I use rTorrent (command line)
[09:45] <nixnoob1> borishnikov, tar.gz is not a package its an archive like a .zi
[09:45] <borishnikov> i understand - i dont know how to install though
[09:45] <usser> borishnikov: extract it
[09:45] <borzen> Then i reformatted it a lot to get reinstall it though
[09:45] <mc44> CerebroJD: does the dmesg command say sda or sdb?
[09:45] <uadrian> how can I make my 'window list' at bottom to show it in 2 lines?
[09:45] <usser> borishnikov: open console
[09:45] <borishnikov> ok i did that
[09:45] <borishnikov> ok
[09:45] <usser> borishnikov: and navigate to the directory to which u just extracted it
[09:45] <borishnikov> right i do that
[09:45] <omegazepher> Well. Have to go now. Take care of yourself and remember! GOOGLE!!!!!
[09:46] <Andeh> Hello
[09:46] <usser> borishnikov: great now do ./configure
[09:46] <Andeh> I just installed the Murrine GTK2 engine
[09:46] <borishnikov> and then i do the /config and make etc etc
[09:46] <Andeh> How do i use it?
[09:46] <borishnikov> but it all says that i tcant be done
[09:46] <Andeh> How do i choose my Gtk engines?
[09:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone here uses Moto4Lin ?
[09:46] <usser> borishnikov: whats the error paste the output to some pastebin
[09:46] <nixnoob1> borishnikov,  ./configure make make install
[09:46] <usser> borishnikov: not here
[09:46] <fotoflo> how do i make my terminal utf8 ?
[09:46] <CerebroJD> mc44 sdb
[09:46] <borishnikov> ok
[09:46] <Flannel> borishnikov: Do you really need the newest pidgin?  GAIM beta 6 is in the repositories
[09:47] <Andeh> How do i activate my GTK2 engine?
[09:47] <borishnikov> thats what i have
[09:47] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok try "sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt"
[09:47] <borishnikov> i cant exchange files with my friends
[09:47] <abyss> lo, i got a little problem. I have installed fresh fiesty fawn and i wanna play WoW on it. I was looking for the wine package but it seems not aviable anymore
[09:47] <usser> Flannel: exactly beta6, pidgin is release =)
[09:47] <Ch33zm0ng3r> borishnikov: is it failing on ./configure, make, or make install?
[09:47] <borishnikov> on all
[09:47] <gglser> hi all, I just installed JRE using this command the I got from ubuntuguide: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[09:47] <borishnikov> and i do have those things install that youre suppoesd to have
[09:47] <gglser> but on the JRE site it says its not the last version
[09:47] <gglser> how can I upgrade?
[09:47] <Magos> is there a way to install ubuntu without going through the live cd?  I really hate having to load the entire os off a cd just to install it.  My laptop being slow doesn't really help the process either =/.
[09:47] <Andeh> hello, i just installed the Murrine GTK2 engine, how do i use it?
[09:47] <borzen> Is there a reson grub wont let me get in to XP or Ubuntu?
[09:47] <Ch33zm0ng3r> ok you're most likely just missing some libraries that pidgin is dependant on
[09:48] <Flannel> usser: right.  But there aren't very many improvements over the beta.  And it's a whole lot of hassle and sacrificing forward compatability to just go out and compile it.
[09:48] <Flannel> Magos: grab the Alternate CD
[09:48] <Andeh> hello, i just installed the Murrine GTK2 engine, how do i use it?
[09:48] <Ch33zm0ng3r> you should be able to install them using synaptic
[09:48] <xp_prg> #adempiere
[09:48] <borishnikov>  ./config: command not found
[09:48] <Magos> is the alternate cd installation method easy to use?
[09:48] <Ch33zm0ng3r> keep in mind that you'll need the lib*-dev packages
[09:48] <borishnikov> thats what it gives me
[09:48] <kitche> Andeh: change your theme in gnome
[09:48] <fotoflo> question: how do i make my terminal utf8 compliant?
[09:48] <usser> Flannel: i dunno i just used checkinstall to creat a pidgin package and then simlinked gaim to pidgin
[09:48] <Ch33zm0ng3r> it should be ./configure
[09:48] <borzen> Grub dosen't like the mounts i have
[09:48] <creamers_> what is the default root password on the lastest version of ubuntu
[09:49] <abyss> anyway to get the wine package on fiesty fawn?
[09:49] <Andeh> kitche: yes, i tried that, where do i select the GTK Engine?
[09:49] <Flannel> Magos: it's extremely.  It's the same questions as the LiveCD installer, only without the liveCD
[09:49] <xp_prg> I can't make my microphone work on my laptop, it used to work in knoppix if anyone wants to help me
[09:49] <borishnikov> hello?
[09:49] <mc44> creamers_: there is no root password
[09:49] <CerebroJD> mc44, cant find /dev/sdb/mnt
[09:49] <Flannel> !compile | borishnikov
[09:49] <ubotu> borishnikov: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:49] <CerebroJD> will try again
[09:49] <creamers_> so i type root for the user name
[09:49] <gglser> one question: whats the command to install the latest version of JRE?? (on feisty)
[09:49] <usser> borishnikov: yes paste the output from configure to a pastebin
[09:49] <mc44> CerebroJD: no there is a space after sdb
[09:49] <Flannel> borishnikov: follow those instructions, but do the checkinstall method, you'll thank yourself for it later
[09:49] <creamers_> then on the password i hit enter
[09:49] <CerebroJD> oooh
[09:49] <borishnikov>  ./config: command not found
[09:49] <CerebroJD> I see that now
[09:49] <mc44> !root | creamers_
[09:49] <ubotu> creamers_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:49] <borishnikov> i did all that already
[09:49] <borishnikov> thats why i am here
[09:49] <CerebroJD> mc44, done
[09:49] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok cd /mnt
[09:49] <borzen> Hello I need HELP OR ELSE I CANT WORK
[09:49] <abyss> !wine
[09:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:50] <mc44> CerebroJD: then ls
[09:50] <Andeh> WHERE can i select my GTK2 THEME?
[09:50] <Andeh> Oops
[09:50] <borishnikov> see
[09:50] <Andeh> *Engine
[09:50] <Andeh> not theme
[09:50] <borishnikov> nothing works
[09:50] <fotoflo> quick question, one more time: how do i make my terminal utf8 compliant?
[09:50] <hendrik> hello
[09:50] <usser> borishnikov: paste the results of ./configure here http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link to the page
[09:50] <Flannel> fotoflo: it ought to be already
[09:50] <Andeh> Where can i select my GTK2 Engine?
[09:50] <konam> someone had problems with azureus under feisty?
[09:50] <_filippo_> is it possible to add a custom header with evolution?
[09:50] <CerebroJD> done, the file is listed
[09:50] <Andeh> I only see the themes, i'm probably looking in the wrong placve
[09:50] <fotoflo> err and if i am ssh-ing in?
[09:51] <mc44> CerebroJD: woo!
[09:51] <Flannel> fotoflo: Using... putty?
[09:51] <abyss> woot it says: #3) Install the wine package. (see InstallingSoftware if you need help).
[09:51] <fotoflo> Flannel: yeah, with utf-8 turned on
[09:51] <Magos> say I download ubuntu and I want to switch to xubuntu or something is that easy to do?
[09:51] <snowman> greetings f.
[09:51] <CerebroJD> this junk isnt nearlly as I used to think it was
[09:51] <abyss> no wine package aviable
[09:51] <snowman> er.  folks.
[09:51] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok now "sudo dpkg -i xorg(then press tab after the first few letters to complete the name)"
[09:51] <Flannel> fotoflo: Eh?  If putty has utf-8 turned on (and utf8 as the default encoding) the nyou're already in utf-8
[09:51] <fotoflo> how do i verify utf8 is the default encoding?
[09:51] <borzen> Grub not working HELP
[09:51] <snowman> so if my xorg.conf shows only 1024x768 as options, anyone able to hazard a guess as to why I'm caught in 800x600 hell?
[09:52] <Flannel> !doesntwork | borzen
[09:52] <ubotu> borzen: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:52] <borishnikov> that site isnt wokring
[09:52] <fotoflo> flannel: maybe it got messedup
[09:52] <borishnikov> it says error
[09:52] <CerebroJD> unpackin
[09:52] <CerebroJD> setting up
[09:52] <usser> abyss: read this page http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[09:52] <CerebroJD> aaaand done
[09:52] <Ch33zm0ng3r> snowman: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:52] <Flannel> fotoflo: It's in the putty settings.  Window > Translation
[09:52] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok now go back to those instructions from the depmod line :)
[09:52] <Ch33zm0ng3r> i had that problem earlier today
[09:52] <snowman> Ch33zm0ng3r: thanks.  will do.
[09:52] <borishnikov> ugh
[09:53] <borishnikov> this is so confusing
[09:53] <creamers_> i need the defualt root password
[09:53] <Ch33zm0ng3r> you'll have to run through a lot of questions
[09:53] <borzen> There is no defualt root password
[09:53] <fotoflo> Flannel: no i mean for ubuntu
[09:53] <mc44> creamers_: there is no default root password. The sudo password is that of your user
[09:53] <usser> creamers_: theres no default root password, the root password is the password of the user
[09:53] <fotoflo> i know my putty is setup
[09:53] <usser> mc44: omg
[09:53] <Ch33zm0ng3r> but one set should be something to the effect of "which screen resolutions do you want to use"
[09:53] <usser> mc44: that sounded exactly the smae
[09:53] <tyrion> is there anything like geektool or Samurize for ubuntu?
[09:53] <mc44> usser: :)
[09:53] <borzen> HELP PLZZZZZZZ
[09:53] <borzen> HELP
[09:53] <mc44> borzen: stop that
[09:53] <creamers_> i tired thwe password for my user though
[09:54] <Ch33zm0ng3r> borishnikov: did you get a PM from me?
[09:54] <Flannel> borzen: We can't help i you don't tell us what needs fixing.
[09:54] <creamers_> i tried user root and i didnt type anything in for the password
[09:54] <borzen> GRUB
[09:54] <creamers_> is root even a user acc
[09:54] <Flannel> fotoflo: It is.  If you're using screen, you'll need to start that with -U
[09:54] <borzen> It wont let me in to XP or linux, right now im useing the LIVE CD
[09:54] <Flannel> creamers_: it is, but it's disabled, because you don't need it.
[09:54] <Taladan> !sudo|creamers_
[09:54] <ubotu> creamers_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:54] <usser> creamers_: root account is turned off by default so u wont be able to login as root
[09:54] <cybe> MrStein, Not a filesystem type `vfat' option. Filesystem types: minix xfs jfs reiserfs reiser4 ext2 ext3
[09:55] <Flannel> borzen: Pastebin your menu.lst, what errors do you get?
[09:55] <creamers_> sso if i need the root password to do something then i type nothing and it should go
[09:55] <gglser> can someone help me? somehow I cant install java6.1.
[09:55] <creamers_> without enabling it
[09:55] <fotoflo> Flannel: it isnt. its been changed. how do i get it back?
[09:55] <konam> someone here knows how to change the openoffice's splash screen
[09:55] <usser> creamers_: no if ubuntu asks for root pswd use the password of your user
[09:55] <cybe> MrStein, Seems like FAT32 isn't supported
[09:55] <creamers_> i did it didnt work
[09:56] <SecrethX> anyone knows a good PHP IDE?
[09:56] <usser> creamers_: oh
[09:56] <CerebroJD> mc44, whats gksudo gedit?
[09:56] <creamers_> i downlaoded the lastest version
[09:56] <Taladan> It's not going to ask you for the root password...it'll ask you for your password.
[09:56] <creamers_> with two updates after it
[09:56] <CoF> how do I get my RAID 0 drives to get recognized as one drive?
[09:56] <mc44> CerebroJD: it runs the program gedit which is like notepad but with superuser privligaes
[09:56] <jazz_sax> can anyone help me feisty Live DVD .My screen freezes when it loads X server.I have asus m2v-mx with via chipset
[09:56] <Gartral> im trying to make a secured seperated partition system, can anyone help?
[09:56] <Flannel> fotoflo: er... uh, I don't know.  I'm sure there's an environmental variable for it.  Or, I imagine that's how it works
[09:57] <borzen> Anybody help me with grub. I need this computer today
[09:57] <CerebroJD> mc44:  Gtk-WARNING **: Cannot open display
[09:57] <mc44> CerebroJD: it wont work without X :)
[09:57] <CerebroJD> :-P
[09:57] <quaal> anyone know how to backup the home dir ?
[09:57] <snowman> ok, so that did nothing.
[09:57] <quaal> can you do it when you're logged into it ?
[09:57] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok, you want to do "sudo nano /X11/xorg.conf"
[09:57] <Ch33zm0ng3r> no luck?
[09:57] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok, you want to do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:57] <snowman> nope
[09:57] <CerebroJD> ,,lau
[09:57] <Ch33zm0ng3r> hmmm
[09:57] <creamers_> i question to
[09:57] <CerebroJD> mmmkay
[09:57] <snowman> xorg.conf appears set up the same as under 6.06, and that worked.
[09:57] <gglser> hi all, Im having trouble installing the latest Java runtime version
[09:57] <creamers_> can you install cubepanel lite on ubuntu
[09:58] <Taladan> borzen - until and unless you can say exactly what grub is or isn't doing and any errors that it spits, no one is going to be able to help you, nor will they likely even offer.
[09:58] <Alonea> umm, for some reason the external hdd I have plugged in is no longer showing up under /media. I have tried unplugging it and plugging it back in with no luck. When I plug in the usb, the light on the drive pops on like its supposed, but nothing on this end.
[09:58] <creamers_> can you install cubepanel lite one ubuntu
[09:58] <nixnoob1> why does cpu scale down to 800mhz even though my laptop is plugged in?
[09:58] <borzen> Grub wont see my partitions
[09:58] <mc44> CerebroJD: use ctrl-x then Y then enter to exit and save
[09:58] <Taladan> Alonea: does it show up on lsusb?
[09:58] <borzen> help plz
[09:58] <Ch33zm0ng3r> perhaps try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:59] <Flannel> borzen: Pastebin your menu.lst, give us EXACT error messages.
[09:59] <Gartral> Alonea: try mount /sda1
[09:59] <CerebroJD> ok, edited
[09:59] <Alonea> Taladan: i dunno. Let me look. It was on a few minutes ago
[09:59] <Ch33zm0ng3r> that's the full command that i ran just earlier today that fixed it for me
[09:59] <borzen> I cant i'm useing a live cd
[09:59] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok, moment of truth. Run startx
[09:59] <oldude67> hey how close is ubuntu to debian???
[09:59] <Alonea> Taladan: yes it is showing up there
[09:59] <Ch33zm0ng3r> what type of display adapter do you have?
[09:59] <nixnoob1> anyone know why my cpu is scaled down to 800mhz even though my laptop is plugged in?
[09:59] <uadrian> SecrethX, Zend Studio is the best but not free, apart from that you can only try Eclipse but not that great for PHP
[09:59] <Taladan> borzen - if you're on a livecd then you're going to have to mount your harddrive to see the file.
[09:59] <CerebroJD> ZOMG
[09:59] <snowman> it's the ati built-in in a latitude c600
[09:59] <CerebroJD> <3's
[10:00] <Taladan> Alonea: try doing as Gartral suggested - mount /dev/sda1
[10:00] <borzen> I cant cuz i cant even get in to ubuntu
[10:00] <Ch33zm0ng3r> oh
[10:00] <borzen> or XP
[10:00] <snowman> nixnoob1: if the machine uses dynamic scaling, it might just have slowed down as it's not busy? :P
[10:00] <CerebroJD> Thank you mc44 :-)
[10:00] <mc44> CerebroJD: no problem
[10:00] <SecrethX> uadrian, somehow Zend is _really_ slow on my comp, and eclipse..? I didnt know about them having a plugin for PHP?
[10:00] <nixnoob1> snowman, how can i tell if thats the case?
[10:00] <Alonea> Taladan: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:00] <Taladan> borzen - you can mount any and all extant partitions using a livecd.
[10:00] <Alonea> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:00] <CoF> my RAID0 shows up as 2 seperate hardrives, how do I get them to show up as one? using Promise FastTrak 378 onboard
[10:00] <Taladan> Alonea: yeah, you're going to have to give it a target to mount to
[10:01] <Taladan> something like mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[10:01] <harpi> this is a weird one [./configure > conftxt.txt]  makes a file but i can not find it in the file browser but if i do [ls]  it is there, i can also [nano]  it........where is the file?????:-/
[10:01] <uadrian> SecrethX, I have the opposite, Eclipse is slow as hell :) Anyway yes, they have 2 kind of php plugins, but honestly none of them suits my taste. Zend is the best without any doubt
[10:01] <erUSUL> !dmraid
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <Taladan> Something that exists where you want to mount it
[10:01] <Ch33zm0ng3r> snowman: do you have the correct driver installed?
[10:01] <snowman> nixnoob1: compile something, or really give it a workout, then during that, do a "cat /proc/cpuinfo" to see what it clocks as.
[10:01] <erUSUL> !lvm | CoF
[10:01] <ubotu> CoF: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:01] <snowman> Ch33zm0ng3r: I'd assume so.  ati
[10:01] <Taladan> harpi: what's the exact name of the file?
[10:01] <SecrethX> uadrian, know something to help me with that issue about it being slow?
[10:01] <borzen> I have Ubuntu insaled but grub gets errors
[10:01] <Ch33zm0ng3r> my laptop was a huge pain to get working at first
[10:01] <Ch33zm0ng3r> it had ati drivers
[10:01] <CerebroJD> now I gotta get my wireless card working so I can get some updates etc.
[10:01] <snowman> rage mobility  m3 agp 2x
[10:01] <snowman> driver ati
[10:02] <harpi> conftxt.txt
[10:02] <CerebroJD> and net surfage... gotta be able to do that
[10:02] <Ch33zm0ng3r> ahh yeah i had huge problems with that at first
[10:02] <uadrian> SecrethX, not really sorry :( Are you trying the latest version? tried other java  based programs like Eclipse?
[10:02] <JacobLyles> Hello, I am having trouble booting the Ubuntu CD on a Windows XP thinkpad. Anybody know a workarround?
[10:02] <Ch33zm0ng3r> i believe there's a script out there that will install the best drivers for ati and nvidia cards
[10:02] <Taladan> harpi does it have a period/dot (.) in front of the file name?
[10:02] <SecrethX> uadrian, I use the latest, and Eclipse is pretty fast
[10:02] <Ch33zm0ng3r> i think it's called envy
[10:02] <harpi> no it is not hidden
[10:02] <rajiv_nair> jacoblyles: wat xactly is the problem??
[10:02] <snowman> envy, huh?
[10:02] <Taladan> Ah okay
[10:03] <Ch33zm0ng3r> i'll find a link
[10:03] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:03] <JacobLyles> rajiv_nair: boots to XP no matter what I do
[10:03] <Taladan> harpi - I don't have any idea why your file browser wouldn't show the filename then
[10:03] <beland> do anyone here have a gp2x?
[10:03] <rajiv_nair> jacob: u have ur cdrom set as first boot device?? ;)
[10:03] <uadrian> SecrethX, that might be some hw specific case then or something :\ It runs _perfect_ for me with an old slow comp, 512 ram only on Feisty
[10:03] <ixian_> is there a way to configure the desktop effects in ubuntu 7.04? i used to use beryl on 6.10 and you could configure a lot of things in it, but i cant find a way to configure it in 7.04
[10:03] <JacobLyles> rajiv_nair: yes
[10:03] <Ch33zm0ng3r> i don't know if that's the best method but after installing drivers with it and then dpkg-reconfigure i'm up and running very smoothly
[10:03] <harpi> Taladan yea, also if i use disk manager it is not there
[10:03] <NickVolt> anyone had any problems/success with installing an adaptec 29160N SCSI controller?
[10:03] <SecrethX> uadrian, 512 on gutsy here
[10:03] <usser> ixian_: cause 7.04 uses compix
[10:04] <usser> *compiz
[10:04] <rajiv_nair> jacob: tried bootin that cd in ny other pc??
[10:04] <usser> ixian_: u have to install beryl by hand
[10:04] <feistyman> Anyone know how to get rid of this: When I click on an html file, it now asks me if Do you want to run "*.htm", or display its contents?
[10:04] <gglser> can someone help me? I cant install latest version of JRE
[10:04] <uadrian> SecrethX, erm, not that im against beta or something but comeone, what release is Gutsy? :) preprepre-alphha-ONLYFORVIEW :)
[10:04] <nonlinear> can anyone help with a boot problem on a toshiba satelite M50-YK4 (pentium M, 1.75 ghz, 1.5 gb ram, 915gm/gml/910gm express graphix)?  with the live CD and dedault settings, I get a CRC error/system halt when initrd.gz is loading...  I have spent manyhours testing the iso, cd, and memory and these are all OK.  if I add vga=771, I don't get this error but I hang on a black screen after about the same time period.  However, I am able to use
[10:04] <Ch33zm0ng3r> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:04] <Taladan> harpi - no clue...don't think I've ever even heard of that behaviour before
[10:04] <Andeh> Hello
[10:04] <JacobLyles> rajiv_nair: I know enough to be dangerous, went into the BIOS setup and changed the CD ROM to the first boot device
[10:04] <Andeh> I'm having some trouble with GTK themes
[10:04] <Andeh> can someone help me?
[10:04] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:05] <creamers_> i need to know
[10:05] <JacobLyles> It also allows me to choose a "temporary boot device" by pressing F12 at setup, chose the CD ROM
[10:05] <rajiv_nair> jacob: i mnt , did ya try booting from that cd from some other pc/laptop?
[10:05] <SecrethX> uadrian, yea, I know. Hmm, maybe you're right.. how do you downgrade?
[10:05] <creamers_> dosu it
[10:05] <harpi> Taladan bug?
[10:05] <JacobLyles> rajiv: good idea. I'll try that
[10:05] <rajiv_nair> jacob: just to knw whether the cd is clean:)
[10:05] <creamers_> hello dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default i need it so i can install web-cp
[10:05] <uadrian> SecrethX, no clue :) but its really not sure thats the problem but as im a developer I really need to use stable system, and feisty is a perfect choice
[10:06] <CerebroJD> whats the next release name for Ubuntu?
[10:06] <rajiv_nair> gutsy gibbon i hrd
[10:06] <rajiv_nair> :-?
[10:06] <mc44> !gutsy
[10:06] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <Taladan> harpi - could be, maybe look through the forums and see if anyone else has encountered it before
[10:06] <Baalial1007> whoa
[10:06] <bluefox83> !nfs
[10:06] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:06] <Baalial1007> This place is packed
[10:06] <Taladan> only thing is making it reproduceable
[10:06] <creamers_> dosu anybody have a answer to my question  dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:06] <NickVolt> having some problems getting SCSI to work anyone have experience with SCSI?
[10:06] <Taladan> try this: file <filename>
[10:06] <Taladan> see if it's seeing it as a true ascii text file
[10:06] <SecrethX> uadrian, Im a webdeveloper myself and I switched from windows about a month ago, still searching that perfect IDE ;)
[10:06] <CerebroJD> feisty have ndiswrapper 1.34 or greater in it?
[10:07] <demonspork> does anyone on here right now happen to know how to shut down the X server and get a command line interface at runlevel 3 or higher?
[10:07] <creamers_> dosu it
[10:07] <harpi> Taladan ok i try but it is reproduceable did it several time's, same result
[10:07] <vox754> Latest ndiswrapper is 1.43, get it from source
[10:07] <Andeh> Hello
[10:08] <Taladan> harpi: I mean reproduceable on a dev's test system
[10:08] <Andeh> Is there anything i need to do to select Murrine as my GTK2 engine, or will it activate when i load a theme for it?
[10:08] <eduardo> #ubutu-es
[10:08] <harpi> ahh
[10:08] <Taladan> demonspork: logout of your current session and then on the login menu choose console login
[10:08] <rajiv_nair> just load a theme i presume
[10:08] <rajiv_nair> :-?
[10:08] <callidusfox> Please help, I accidently removed trash bin from panel - lower right corner. How do I put it back there ?
[10:08] <eduardo> como voy para alla?
[10:08] <WhoNeedszzz> lol
[10:08] <Andeh> Also, i tried dragging the themes onto the theme manager and it said wrong archive type
[10:08] <CerebroJD> callidusfox, right-click Add to panel?
[10:08] <WhoNeedszzz> no habla espanol en eso server
[10:08] <Coutouto> hello !
[10:08] <rajiv_nair> andeh: try xtractin that archive
[10:09] <Baalial1007> Does anyone here know the proper terminal command to copy some files and paste it elsewhere?
[10:09] <demonspork> Taladin, I haven't seen that option, I can login to a Failsafe Terminal, but that is still running an x server
[10:09] <Taladan> !es
[10:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:09] <rajiv_nair> andeh: it must contain multiple themes for gtk2,emerald etc
[10:09] <CerebroJD> callidusfox, its under Desktop and Windows
[10:09] <WhoNeedszzz> just do it with gui
[10:09] <Andeh> rajiv_nair: so Murrina GTK engine should activate?
[10:09] <ipleX> I've got a problem with my ubuntu installer. hangs on 15% while detecting filesystem. Anybody got a clue what too do? Trying to install on a ps3..
[10:09] <rajiv_nair> andeh: guess so
[10:09] <WhoNeedszzz> if u have to just sudo thunar
[10:09] <Andeh> ok
[10:09] <Coutouto> does anyone knows a little bit how (and what to) use to sync my mobile and my computer using bluetooth ?
[10:09] <gglser> question: can Ubuntu use RPM?
[10:09] <Andeh> ok im gonna try that
[10:09] <Baalial1007> I am having a bit of difficulty with GUI :-P...
[10:09] <callidusfox> CerebroJD: Got it, thanks !
[10:09] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:09] <CerebroJD> np :-)
[10:09] <CerebroJD> (Holy dyna, I'm helpin ppl already! :-D )
[10:09] <WhoNeedszzz> gglser: yes but u have to get the "alien" package
[10:10] <NickVolt> is SCSI gurus in here?
[10:10] <feistyman> Does anyone else have this problem, or know how to fix it. Now, suddenly, when I click on an html file on my desktop, it first asks me "Do you want to run "*.html", or display its contents?" Before, it would just load it without asking.
[10:10] <NickVolt> any not is...
[10:10] <Coutouto> is there any bluetoothe guru here ?
[10:10] <gglser> whoneedszzz: oh thats probably why I couldnt install java maybe? whats the aline package?
[10:10] <rajiv_nair> !alien
[10:10] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:10] <WhoNeedszzz> gglser: go to synaptic and search "alien"
[10:10] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:10] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:10] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:10] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:10] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default
[10:10] <borzen> Stop
[10:10] <CerebroJD> Yo.
[10:10] <creamers_> ok
[10:11] <CerebroJD> stop talking, start waiting.
[10:11] <creamers_> i am
[10:11] <CerebroJD> Now, will google get you an answer?
[10:11] <WhoNeedszzz> gglser: don't listen to ubotu, it isn't dangerous
[10:11] <borzen> Anybody a dual booting master
[10:11] <WhoNeedszzz> gglser: but if u have the option get deb packages
[10:11] <rajiv_nair> what is "dangerous" ;)
[10:11] <WhoNeedszzz> lol
[10:11] <Helmi> hey guys. i got two little smb problems. i mounted several smb shares from a buffalo terastation via fstab. since feisty these mounts don't load on startup. i have to "sudo mount -a" to make them work
[10:11] <ipleX> I've got a problem with my ubuntu installer. hangs on 15% while detecting filesystem. Anybody got a clue what too do? Trying to install on a ps3..
[10:12] <demonspork> Creamers_  Why don't you go to System  >  Administration > Synaptic Packager manager > Search: Zend
[10:12] <gglser> whoneedszzz: ill go check it out., do you know where I can find the apt-get command to download the latest version of java runtime????
[10:12] <sethk> gglser, I use the program that converts an rpm to a debian package.  I think that's safer than using rpm directly.
[10:12] <WhoNeedszzz> lol
[10:12] <sethk> gglser, although I don't say that rpm is seriously dangerous
[10:12] <Taladan> Helmi: check that feisty didn't overwrite your fstab
[10:12] <Andeh> Hey, i tried that it said "the file format is invalid" but inside i see lots of folders
[10:12] <WhoNeedszzz> gglser: dl automatix from web
[10:12] <gglser> sthk: allright
[10:12] <vox754> ipleX, you have to understand that Ubuntu isn't made to install massively on PS3, so good luck with that.
[10:12] <WhoNeedszzz> gglser: it's got a lot of good stuff
[10:12] <gglser> whoneedszzz: automatix?
[10:12] <mc44> CerebroJD: yes it has 1.38, you dont need to compile it
[10:12] <WhoNeedszzz> gglser: yeah getautomatix.com
[10:12] <rajiv_nair> andeh: inside is there another archive with gtk2 mentioned in the filename??
[10:12] <axisys> is there a ubuntu pkg for pidgin?
[10:13] <Helmi> Taladan, the fstab is there - otherwise it wouldn't work with mount -a ;)
[10:13] <vox754> !pidgin
[10:13] <CerebroJD> mc44, thank you :-)
[10:13] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
[10:13] <ditoa> evening all
[10:13] <borzen> PS3 ubuntu, Check youtube for vids on that one
[10:13] <insom^> evening
[10:13] <creamers_> no i dont hAVE IT
[10:13] <creamers_> how do i get it
[10:13] <Helmi> Taladan, i also did a fresh install with just the same commands within fstab - i didn't do an update.
[10:13] <axisys> vox754: thnx
[10:13] <Flannel> !automatix | WhoNeedszzz, gglser
[10:13] <ubotu> WhoNeedszzz, gglser: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:13] <WhoNeedszzz> what is up with this putting linux on consoles stuff, it's pretty worthless
[10:13] <Andeh> rajiv_nair: no, but there is a gtk2 folder. contains gradient PNGs and a single gtkrc file
[10:13] <BSG75> is there any translation software for ubuntu?
[10:13] <Andeh> what's this
[10:13] <demonspork> does anyone on here right now happen to know how to shut down the X server and get a command line interface at runlevel 3 or higher?
[10:13] <BSG75> kinda like the one on OSX dashboard?
[10:13] <Taladan> Helmi - what about dmesg? Does it show any failed mounting attempts?
[10:13] <creamers_> dous the zend module    pcntl     come installed default on the lastest version
[10:13] <ditoa> am thinking of buying a dell inspiron 6400 or 640m laptop, anyone running the fawn on either model?
[10:13] <gglser> whoneedszzz: lol
[10:14] <WhoNeedszzz> automatix if fine, i don't know wtf you are talking about
[10:14] <Flannel> ipleX: You have the PS3 installer?  did you verify the CD?
[10:14] <Flannel> WhoNeedszzz: no it's not.  Please don't recommend it here.
[10:14] <CerebroJD> oh sweet
[10:14] <vox754> !rosetta
[10:14] <rajiv_nair> andeh:n archive from that folder and try droppin it into themes window
[10:14] <ubotu> rosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language.  See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about
[10:14] <rajiv_nair> ;)
[10:14] <ipleX> yeah.. everything is ok
[10:14] <CerebroJD> ntfs driver in feisty?!
[10:14] <Helmi> Taladan, didn't know that so far - will check.
[10:14] <CerebroJD> thats awesome!
[10:14] <hypn0> axisys: I saw pidgin debs
[10:14] <WhoNeedszzz> what is the problem with it???
[10:14] <axisys> hypn0: u did? where?
[10:14] <Flannel> WhoNeedszzz: did you read the factoid?
[10:14] <Andeh> rajiv_nair: there is no archive. Should i make one?
[10:14] <ditoa> WhoNeedszzz: automatix isnt very clean
[10:14] <WhoNeedszzz> flannel: ???
[10:14] <gglser> flannel: without automatix, whats the quickest way i can use to find out the command for the latest JRE for ubuntu?
[10:14] <jaym> is there anyway to change ipod association in ubuntu from rhythmbox to banshee?
[10:14] <demonspork> !ntfs-3g | CerebroJD
[10:14] <ubotu> CerebroJD: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:14] <rajiv_nair> andeh: worth trying ;)
[10:14] <axisys> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235&package_id=230234&release_id=505814 did not see it here
[10:14] <Flannel> !java | gglser
[10:14] <ubotu> gglser: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:14] <gglser> flannel: all i keep downloading is the version 6
[10:14] <quaal> i'm trying to backup my home directory. can you do it when you're logged into it ?
[10:15] <Helmi> Taladan, the first number in brackets... are they seconds?
[10:15] <WhoNeedszzz> what is the problem with automatix?
[10:15] <jaym> is there anyway to change ipod association in ubuntu from rhythmbox to banshee?
[10:15] <Flannel> WhoNeedszzz: Automatix breaks systems.  And when it does, it breaks them in horrible ways, requiring reinstalls.
[10:15] <BSG75> ubotu: page not found :(
[10:15] <vox754> !repeat | jaym
[10:15] <WhoNeedszzz> flannel: what do u mean breaks systems?
[10:15] <ubotu> jaym: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:15] <gglser> flannel: that explains it
[10:15] <jaym> sorry
[10:15] <hypn0> I'm pretty sure feisty pidgin deb is on http://www.getdeb.net/ axisys
[10:15] <Flannel> ipleX: You using the Desktop CD or the Alternate C?
[10:15] <rajiv_nair> !patience
[10:15] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:15] <gglser> flannel: thanks a bunch
[10:15] <DivineMonkey> Anyone good with ndiswrapper problems?
[10:15] <jaym> is pidgin available with fiesty yet?
[10:16] <Flannel> WhoNeedszzz: As in... Makes stuff stop working.
[10:16] <Taladan> Helmi: I honestly don't remember what the numbers in the brackets indicate...they may be priority level of the rc scripts
[10:16] <Helmi> Taladan, doesn't look like any smb stuff in there which could be related
[10:16] <WhoNeedszzz> Flannel: how can i believe that it is automatix that does that and not something else?
[10:16] <quaal> i'm trying to backup my home directory. can you do it when you're logged into it ?
[10:16] <Taladan> Helmi - is it starting the smb service before it tries to mount the smb-mounts?
[10:16] <Gartral> yes
[10:17] <Coutouto> does anyone knows a little bit how (and what to) use to sync my mobile and my computer using bluetooth ?
[10:17] <sethk> quaal, yes
[10:17] <Helmi> Taladan, how can i find this out? also dmesg?
[10:17] <jaym> anyone at all ?
[10:17] <quaal> sethk, i'm getting error messages
[10:17] <jaym> ipod associate or fiesty pidgin :)
[10:17] <Taladan> Helmi - yeah, or /var/log/messages
[10:17] <jshriver> greetings :)
[10:17] <sethk> quaal, what's the error message?
[10:17] <Ostebaronen> hi there :) I messed with some user rights for my USB pen drive and now when I insert a drive and hal mounts it, it mounts it with no rights for regular users. I now can't find out what to change to reverse it so everybody can write to it, could someone tell me what to do?
[10:17] <UnluckyMike> pidgin hasn't made it in to the repo yet?
[10:17] <quaal> sethk, one second let me bring it up again
[10:17] <XXS> o.O
[10:17] <DivineMonkey> Is anyone good with ndiswrapper?
[10:17] <XXS> x-chat automatically connects here :O
[10:17] <sethk> Ostebaronen, if it's a FAT drive, you use the UID= and GID= options when  mapping
[10:17] <jaym> ok how about ipod association :)
[10:17] <vox754> !ask | DivineMonkey
[10:17] <ubotu> DivineMonkey: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:18] <peepsalot> !anyone
[10:18] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:18] <jshriver> Anyone here have experience setting up a USB based Palm?
[10:18] <hypn0> UnluckyMike: http://www.getdeb.net/
[10:18] <quaal> sethk, Error "Invalid URI" while copying "/home/depht...fault/lock".
[10:18] <Ostebaronen> sethk it is, so UID and GID just have to be set to nothing? just as you wrote?
[10:18] <gglser> !Multiverse
[10:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:18] <Gorsat> do printer status messages (e.g. "out of paper") work in ubuntu or is this not implemented?
[10:18] <sethk> Ostebaronen, no, you use the numbers of the user you want to own it.  say 500, 1000, whatever it happens to be
[10:18] <Helmi> Taladan, there's just a few lines with smb or samba in it in the messages file which are related to a smb_lookup stuff. that shouldn't have to do with it as it wasn't at boot time.
[10:18] <Ostebaronen> sethk ok, Ill try that :)
[10:18] <DivineMonkey> lol ok, well i have a standard driver loaded for my pcmcia card called acx, and i've already installed the ndiswrapper version. When i run rmmod acx it seems to get rid of it but how do i load the ndiswrapper driver?
[10:19] <CerebroJD> mc44, when we mounted that jumpdrive before, would that have borked anything in the actual gui?
[10:19] <sethk> quaal, give us the entire message, perhaps we can see what's wrong, because it has to be specific to that file.
[10:19] <CerebroJD> as in, accessing said jumpdrive again
[10:19] <sethk> quaal, it might be a pipe file
[10:19] <jshriver> Would someone help me setup my Palm m515? I have pilot-xfer installed
[10:19] <WhoNeedszzz> !worksforme
[10:19] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:19] <sethk> quaal, which is a pseudo file, and can't be copied, but also you don't need to back it up.
[10:19] <vox754> DivineMonkey, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"   this is explained in the ndiswrapper wiki, read that info first
[10:19] <airtonix> is anyone making a gui to package a set of icons into a gnome-icon-package
[10:20] <MetaBookfoziS> !rt61
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt61 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <MetaBookfoziS> !ralink
[10:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:20] <airtonix> ive started a glade file but im no c++ or gtk person at all
[10:20] <Coutouto> !bluetooth
[10:20] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:20] <DivineMonkey> vox754: thanks, must have missed that in the wiki
[10:20] <borzen> I got grub errors now For linux it is error 17 and for XP it is error 13
[10:20] <|ericsson|> Could anyone give a hint as to what would be an more or less equivalent to Microsoft Exchange?
[10:20] <Taladan> Helmi - I'm not sure then...the only reason I can think is either: a) trying to mount the smb shares before SMB is runnig, b) error in the fstab, c) trying to mount the smb shares before networking is up and running...the first two we've disproved I think, the last one...well, i think networking starts up pretty early in the sequence, so not very likely.
[10:20] <vox754> airtonix, go #ubuntu-programming
[10:20] <rajiv_nair> can anybody tell me how to assemble a simple 8086 assembly ang program using bin86
[10:21] <gglser> btw this community rocks :-) thanks everyone for the help
[10:21] <rajiv_nair> ang-lang*
[10:21] <Gorsat> do printer status messages (e.g. "out of paper") work in ubuntu or is this not implemented?
[10:21] <airtonix> |ericsson|: the equiv is evolution with the http connector
[10:21] <airtonix> vox754: cheers
[10:21] <sethk> Taladan, we can try the mount giving all options on the mount command line, bypassing fstab, to eliminate that as a possibility
[10:21] <borzen> Where is grub located plz
[10:22] <Helmi> Taladan, yeah fstab should be okay as a simple "sudo mount -a" works well directly after startup. The stuff with smb not starting before the mount ... sounds most possible but should be logged as an error. probably if just not seen it :( will check this again
[10:22] <Taladan> sethk - the think is, when he runs the mount -a it's mounting it up correctly
[10:22] <spikeb> borzen: /boot/grub
[10:22] <sethk> Taladan, ah, then it has to be the sequence of starting the services, which I think you said.
[10:22] <borzen> is there a way to delete it then reinstall it to get it to make my mounts to work
[10:22] <mc44> CerebroJD: er, shouldnt have, is there a problem?
[10:22] <Taladan> Helmi: if it fails to mount, it will spit an error, but finding that error can be a pain inna ass
[10:22] <vox754> rajiv_nair, there is info about assembly in the topic in #ubuntu-programming
[10:22] <Helmi> Taladan,  kernel: [   15.379278]  smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported
[10:22] <rajiv_nair> vix: thanx :)
[10:23] <Helmi> found that in syslog
[10:23] <CerebroJD> mc44, yes... I cant mount it, and cant eject it
[10:23] <Gorsat> !PJL
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pjl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <jaym> is there anyway to change ipod association in ubuntu from rhythmbox to banshee?
[10:23] <Taladan> Helmi - that's a new one on me
[10:23] <Flannel> borzen: please pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:23] <vox754> !ipod
[10:23] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:23] <spikeb> jaym: system->preferences->removable drives and media
[10:23] <mc44> CerebroJD: try sudo umount /mnt
[10:23] <NickVolt> anyone know how to set up SCSI device?
[10:23] <Helmi> Taladan, sorry, it's the only one i have ;)
[10:23] <sethk> Helmi, that's a harmless message
[10:23] <Taladan> heh
[10:23] <Helmi> sethk, ok
[10:23] <jaym> sweet thanks!
[10:24] <vox754> !grub | borzen, sure, you can reinstall grub, no need to "delete" it.
[10:24] <ubotu> borzen, sure, you can reinstall grub, no need to "delete" it.: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:24] <CerebroJD> it should disappear from the Computer window right?
[10:24] <borzen> Can i delete grub to get it so i can get in to XP
[10:24] <Taladan> well...I know a workaround that can run it so you don't have to type it out
[10:24] <mc44> CerebroJD: probably... :)
[10:24] <Taladan> but it'll just mask the issue
[10:24] <rajiv_nair> http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/linuxlovingmen.shtml -> very intresting read ;)
[10:25] <ipleX> desktop
[10:25] <ipleX> Flannel: Desktop cd
[10:25] <nonlinear> can anyone help with a boot problem on a toshiba satelite M50-YK4 (pentium M, 1.75 ghz, 1.5 gb ram, 915gm/gml/910gm express graphix)?  with the live CD and dedault settings, I get a CRC error/system halt when initrd.gz is loading...  I have spent manyhours testing the iso, cd, and memory and these are all OK.  if I add vga=771, I don't get this error but I hang on a black screen after about the same time period.  However, I am able to use
[10:25] <Flannel> ipleX: I'd try it with the alternate CD
[10:25] <CerebroJD> mc44, now holding the drive in my hand, still in Computer :-P
[10:25] <Ostebaronen> sethk it says that they are invalid mount options if I set them by right clicking on the mounted device and go to the settings page, and write the mount options there... I tried with gid=100 and uid=1000
[10:26] <mc44> CerebroJD: does plugging it back in let you access it?
[10:26] <snowman> and it works. :D
[10:26] <Helmi> Taladan, sethk - okay thanks for your help i can live with that problem at the moment - probably i'll find out more later. but there's still one problem left. sometimes i get "text file busy" errors when trying to delete or overwrite a file on a smb share. do you have an idea where this may come from?
[10:26] <snowman> some xorg tweaking to the r128 driver required.
[10:26] <sethk> Ostebaronen, I've only done it on the command line, where it looks like this:    -o 'UID=100,GID=100'
[10:26] <ditoa> am thinking of buying a dell inspiron 6400 or 640m laptop, anyone running the fawn on either model?
[10:26] <snowman> and now, for wireless. :)
[10:26] <CerebroJD> yep, does now
[10:26] <sethk> Ostebaronen, see if you can capture the command line after you modify the config.
[10:26] <CerebroJD> snowman, not the snowman I know from the other server right?
[10:26] <_gtt_> anyone recommend a good app in ubuntu for managing wma files and their id3 tags?
[10:27] <Ostebaronen> sethk how do I do that?
[10:27] <rajiv_nair> ditoa: hrd ubuntu preloaded dells comin soon
[10:27] <nixnoob1> anyone know where the cpu scaling applet is in feisty?
[10:27] <Taladan> Helmi - sounds like something else is using that file at that particular moment and has it locked.  you can check open files with lsof
[10:27] <sethk> Helmi, my first thought is that the file is, in fact, busy.  Or the directory that it is in.  Is that possible?
[10:27] <spikeb> ditoa: i would just wait until dell puts out their preloaded linux laptop
[10:27] <SecrethX> is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system?
[10:27] <vox754> !forums | ditoa check the forums for info
[10:27] <ubotu> ditoa check the forums for info: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[10:27] <ditoa> yeah guess so
[10:27] <sethk> Ostebaronen, sorry, I don't know that.  Well, you can strace it, but there is most likely an easier way.
[10:27] <spikeb> ditoa: i'm lazy like that though:)
[10:27] <Gorsat> do printer status messages (e.g. "out of paper") work in ubuntu or is this not implemented?
[10:27] <rajiv_nair> !printer
[10:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:27] <spikeb> Gorsat: it might tell you the printer is on fire if you're out of paper.
[10:27] <spikeb> heh
[10:27] <ipleX> Flannel: I'll give it a go
[10:28] <borzen> Can i just reset my MBR to get GRUB off and then reinstall ubuntu
[10:28] <Taladan> heh
[10:28] <nixnoob1> anyone know where the cpu scaling applet is in feisty?
[10:28] <Taladan> if only the mbr came with a reset button.
[10:28] <vox754> borzen, the Win XP CD overwrites the MBR
[10:28] <sethk> borzen, no reason to "reset" it.  when you install, ubuntu will rewrite it (unless you say no)
[10:28] <hierro> a software i tried to run asked me for a file called libgd.so.1.8, but i cannot find it...even in packages.ubuntu...
[10:28] <Helmi> sethk, indeed it could be - an apache from another machine uses the dirs/files on this share. but restarting the apache doesn't help. only rebooting the fileserver helps :( (which isn't accessible via ssh or sth, that's why i'm not able to just restart smb)
[10:29] <sethk> Helmi, you mean restarting a windows box, or a linux/unix box?
[10:29] <gglser> whoneedszzz: I cant reply because Im not registered
[10:29] <Gorsat> I've read through everything I can find about printing in ubuntu (and linux in general) and can't find anything about printer status :(
[10:29] <frojnd> can someon tell me the solution better tha wait untill tomorrow?
[10:29] <Helmi> sethk, it's a buffalo tera station which is kind of a NAS device based on linux
[10:29] <sethk> Gorsat, the command "lpq" shows you the current status
[10:29] <sethk> Helmi, ah, ok.
[10:29] <frojnd> can someon please tell me the soluttion better than wait untill tomorrow please??
[10:29] <Helmi> sethk, think i'll try some modified firmware on it with a more recent version of smb.
[10:30] <sethk> Helmi, good idea.
[10:30] <vox754> hierro, "aptitude search libgd" maybe you nned to install one of those
[10:30] <borzen> well my mounts are not on grubs happy and grub is still there when i format ubuntu
[10:30] <Taladan> Helmi - sudo /etc/init.d/smb restart should let you restart samba
[10:30] <Helmi> sethk, it also should have nfs support - probably the better choice
[10:30] <Helmi> Taladan, yeah but the box isn't accessible via ssh ;)
[10:30] <sethk> Helmi, definitely, unix to unix, a far far better choice.
[10:30] <Taladan> Puch
[10:30] <Taladan> er
[10:30] <Taladan> ouch
[10:30] <rajiv_nair> :D
[10:30] <Gorsat> sethk,I want to use ubuntu as my print server and when my wife tries to print from her windows box she needs to know if the printer ran out of paper or ink or whatever
[10:30] <sethk> frojnd, people join and leave constantly.  I have no idea what you are asking about.
[10:30] <RFC_1149> Hi all. I have just purchased a laptop from a linux laptop vendor. It comes with ubuntu. I trust that the company will have gone to the effort of making sure that absolutely everything works brilliantly out of the box. My question is - how do I restore the hardware functions and drivers on a fresh ubuntu install. I'm afraid I am going to have to wipe the manufacturer install and install a linux distro from verified sources. Any sug
[10:30] <RFC_1149> gestions?
[10:30] <knugen> why does the help say that the ndiswrapper-utils are on the ubuntu cd when they arent?
[10:31] <jonah> hi guys got a batch of file that have wrong administrive user set to them and gnome won't let me change the permissions of them. can anyone give me a terminal command to use that will change everything to read and write in this folder? please
[10:31] <Helmi> sethk, Taladan: That's the box in case you care: http://www.terastation.org/wiki/TeraStationPro and some description from geeks modfying firmware for it.
[10:31] <hierro> vox754, yes, im doing it with synaptic...but ive tryed to find the specific file on packages.ubuntu.com search tool
[10:31] <frojnd> sethk: I just installed kubuntu feisty and I wanna to update the system while this message occured: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  6 00:24:07 2007
[10:31] <Helmi> indeed a good and cheap Raid-5-solution but a bit unhandy without ssh access ;)
[10:31] <rsk> !bot x
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <bobnn> hello.
[10:32] <jonah> hello anyone please?
[10:32] <rsk> ! fixres
[10:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:32] <rajiv_nair> jonah: fire up nautilus using "sudo nautilus" u shld be able to edit permissions from the window that appears
[10:32] <Taladan> Helmi - oh, I've seen those
[10:32] <sethk> frojnd, start by making sure the clock is set correctly.  If you haven't already checked that.
[10:32] <bobnn> I am trying to use pam_tally on 6.06 and having no luck
[10:32] <borzen> If i "reset" the MBR on the XP disk i have can i at least get in to XP
[10:32] <rde> hello, is it possible to access a network directory through the terminal command line interface? (i can connect navigate through nautilus, but would prefer to perform some actions through the terminal.)
[10:32] <jonah> rajiv_nair, tried this already but it won't do it. press to do it to all files within folder and nothing happens and then they're still the same
[10:32] <frojnd> sethk: clock is correctly set also date..
[10:32] <SecrethX> is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system?
[10:32] <rajiv_nair> :borzen: yes
[10:32] <borzen> Sweet
[10:33] <borzen> I need to atleast do that
[10:33] <sethk> frojnd, I would run a script to list all the files on the box in date modified order, then do a touch on each file that has a timestamp in the future.
[10:33] <vox754> RFC_1149, seems you could copy the entire system to a DVD, and restore it,... but then again with linux you never never, you may end installing many times just for pleasure
[10:33] <RFC_1149> rde - ssh, mc
[10:33] <rajiv_nair> jonah: try selecting all files inside the folder and apply rights
[10:33] <rajiv_nair> ;)
[10:33] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, is there a way to remove the huge arrow icon when I make a link to a folder in my desktop? (Gnome)
[10:33] <Taladan> And then there's times you just say yes because they don't listen to the other help *laughs*
[10:33] <rde> thanks, RFC_1149. i'll look into that.
[10:33] <bobnn> I've tried adding "auth       required     pam_tally.so deny=5 even_deny_root_account" in /etc/pam.d/ssh - once I do I can never ssh in.
[10:33] <quaal> sudo cp /home/dephtu /media/usbdisk-1
[10:33] <quaal> cp: omitting directory `/home/dephtu'
[10:34] <snowman> ndiswrapper.  ugh.
[10:34] <quaal> what does that mean.
[10:34] <jonah> rajiv_nair, it doesnt work, i need something more powerful
[10:34] <DARKGuy> quaal: it means it didn't copy the folder, try with the -r parameter at the end of the command
[10:34] <rajiv_nair> jonah: was the max  knew:)
[10:34] <RFC_1149> vox754, thanks. I suppose a backup is in order anyways - good opportunity to test growisofs I suppose! My question is a little more in depth though - I am sure the manufacturer has setup the machine to work perfectly. I'd like to retain as much as the config as possible, while replacing the system with known safe binaries and source.
[10:35] <sethk> quaal, you are trying to copy a directory to itself, which would cause an infinite loop
[10:35] <cotton> When I look at a web page in ubuntu, nothing xomes out right
[10:35] <CerebroJD> what the hell
[10:35] <cotton> the text is oout of line
[10:35] <cotton> someone please help
[10:35] <CerebroJD> I *just* installed ndiswrapper
[10:35] <RFC_1149> vox754, can there be anything malignant in /etc? Furthermore, what is the best way to get a list of the current drivers and firmware installed in a system...
[10:35] <CerebroJD> and now its not found
[10:35] <quaal> sethk, i am ?
[10:35] <quaal> sudo cp /home/dephtu /media/usbdisk-1 is going from one place to another
[10:35] <Gorsat> do unsolicited PJL printer status messages (e.g. "out of paper") work in ubuntu or is this not implemented?
[10:35] <sethk> quaal, yes.  possibly through a sym link
[10:36] <benn333> Hello all. I'm having resolution trouble in Kubunt Feisty using the 'nvidia' driver. I can run at 1600x1200 @ 75hz just fine, but when I reboot it always goes back to 1280x1024 @ 60hz. Anyone else have this problem?
[10:36] <harpi> i need to compile or install from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/guile-1.8-dev on a ubuntu dapper box but i have no clue what to download. do you?
[10:36] <bobnn> quaal: cp -a /home/dephtu /media/usbdisk-1
[10:36] <quaal> sethk, it seems to be working with the -r command
[10:36] <vox754> RFC_1149, since Linux changes fast, I don't think that is really possible, because upgrades are readily available... I guess that for drivers you mean kernel modules, so check the appropriate modules, .ko, .so
[10:36] <quaal> paramater rather
[10:36] <bobnn> quaal - if you want to copy everything under /home/dephtu
[10:36] <bobnn> oops.
[10:36] <sethk> quaal, oh, ok, that makes sense, because without -r it doesn't copy directories.
[10:36] <quaal> hmm
[10:36] <quaal> i see
[10:36] <quaal> r for recursive right
[10:36] <westnyle> Hey, just seen Dell is shipping comps with this software been peaking at it awhile can i ask afew n00b questions i couldnt really find the answer to
[10:37] <Taladan> yes quaal
[10:37] <DARKGuy> quaal: it means it didn't copy the folder, try with the -r parameter at the end of the command
[10:37] <DARKGuy> whoops
[10:37] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, is there a way to remove the huge arrow icon when I make a link to a folder in my desktop? (Gnome)
[10:37] <quaal> a for all ?
[10:37] <Taladan> !ask|westnyle
[10:37] <ubotu> westnyle: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:37] <westnyle> Does World Of Warcraft run on Ubuntu ??
[10:37] <DARKGuy> westnyle: yes
[10:37] <quaal> westnyle, its listed in crossover office.
[10:37] <hylje> westnyle: wine runs WoW almost perfectly -- on most configurations
[10:37] <RFC_1149> vox754, so my toolkit consists of lsmod, lspci, lsusb, etc. Take a full dvd backup, and try migrating some parts of /etc by hand? Cheers
[10:37] <westnyle> What about my Netgear WG311t Drivers
[10:37] <westnyle> can i get them working
[10:37] <bobnn> -a for archive - does it rrecursively, preserves mod times and perms, etc.
[10:37] <DARKGuy> westnyle: it runs in WINE too, nice 'n dandy
[10:37] <demon_spork> I finally figured out how to get a command line interface with ubuntu at Runlevel 3:  Simply go into the xorg.conf file and delete random lines and letters, so when you restart it gives all sorts of errors and reverts to a command line.  From there I was able to install the NVIDIA driver package which replaced the xorg config and made everything happy again
[10:37] <quaal> DARKGuy, thanks
[10:37] <westnyle> cuz im wanting to try this sweetness
[10:37] <vox754> RFC_1149, seems possible, good luck
[10:37] <bobnn> see man cp
[10:38] <DARKGuy> quaal: welcome xD
[10:38] <RFC_1149> vox754, thanks!
[10:38] <ubuntu_user07> hi all how can i change which os is the default on boot in ubuntu
[10:38] <Jove`> westnyle: Netgear WG311T uses an atheros chip and works out of the box on feisty
[10:38] <DARKGuy> demon_spork: XD not quite the right way but that's what I call some hacking =P
[10:38] <westnyle> ohhh
[10:38] <Gorsat> do unsolicited PJL printer status messages (e.g. "out of paper") work in ubuntu or is this not implemented?
[10:38] <Draconicus> Can somebody here link me to something that explains how you guys make your live CDs?
[10:38] <westnyle> Well what does this LTS version mean
[10:38] <Yaze> Hii Draconicus
[10:39] <Jove`> Long Term Support
[10:39] <westnyle> cuz its lesser version but u get longer updates?
[10:39] <vox754> !customlivecd | Draconicus
[10:39] <ubotu> Draconicus: Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[10:39] <Arrick> Draconicus, they ship them to you
[10:39] <bobnn> ubuntu_user07 - edit /etc/grub.conf, I think
[10:39] <DARKGuy> !lts
[10:39] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:39] <Thuryn> hey
[10:39] <westnyle> ohh
[10:39] <amine> hello
[10:39] <harpi> no one?:'(
[10:39] <westnyle> But i mean whats gonna happen if i just use the 7.04
[10:39] <amine> hello
[10:39] <Yaze> Hello everone
[10:39] <westnyle> after 18 months i gotta reinstall?
[10:39] <Taladan> Gorsat: try #cups
[10:39] <SecrethX> is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system?
[10:39] <Taladan> They might know if it's implemented in...well...cups.
[10:40] <Yaze> help
[10:40] <Jove`> westnyle: No - you just update to the latest version, which you can do without reinstalling.
[10:40] <bulmer> SecrethX: like using microsoft windows?
[10:40] <bobnn> Yaze - a mlittle more specific?
[10:40] <Yaze> How do i change channel and get into the italian ubuntu?
[10:40] <vox754> ubuntu_user07, simple, change a number in the "/boot/grub/menu.lst" file, which is the default boot. Usually windows is the last one displayed.
[10:40] <Gorsat> Taladan:  tnx, didn't know they had a channel :)
[10:40] <Flannel> Yaze: /join #ubuntu-it
[10:40] <ubuntu_user07> thanks vox754
[10:40] <SecrethX> bulmer, no, I mean, from gutsy back to feisty
[10:40] <Taladan> !it
[10:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:40] <WesLappy> I want to create a default profile so when I add new users they all get the default settings I choose. How can I go about doing this?
[10:40] <westnyle> Hmm, so this is basically like lifetime OS for free
[10:40] <Yaze> !it
[10:40] <demon_spork> !ask | SecrethX
[10:40] <quaal> is there a site that tells you all the config files you should backup before upgrading to feisty? i've never upgraded before..
[10:40] <graham__> Anyone know how i remove a driver from the kernel? for ndiswrappe
[10:40] <ubotu> SecrethX: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:41] <Jove`> westnyle: That's the beauty of it ;)
[10:41] <westnyle> and gonna run more stable then my windows vista ultimate i swiped off work
[10:41] <westnyle> and am disapointed with
[10:41] <brady> what is the story on 7.04-ppc?
[10:41] <Yaze> Grazie
[10:41] <Yaze> #ubuntu-it
[10:41] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, is there a way to remove the huge arrow icon when I make a link to a folder in my desktop? (Gnome)
[10:41] <Yaze> change #ubuntu-it
[10:41] <Taladan> Yaze - /join #ubuntu-it
[10:41] <bobnn> !ask pam_tally
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask pam_tally - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <SecrethX> demon_spork, what do you mean?
[10:41] <westnyle> Ohhh What about 64-Bit Support Is there enough apps to work? or is it best to stick with x86
[10:41] <matt___> what is a really good dock for feisty? i tried avant, it looked ok, but didn't work right. i couldn't add anything or whatnot
[10:41] <bobnn> !pam_tally
[10:41] <Jove`> westnyle: Grap the Live CD and try it out before installing. Then you'll see what works and if you're going to get any problems.
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam_tally - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <vox754> westnyle, stick to 32
[10:41] <Syngin> good question about the arrow
[10:42] <Syngin> have wondered myself
[10:42] <westnyle> Ohhhh... Does Reason 3.0 and Midi Support?
[10:42] <|ericsson|> westnyle: I have been working with M$ for the last 15 years and after my switch to linux, I never look back
[10:42] <quaal> is there a site that tells you all the configuration files and other things you should backup before upgrading to feisty? i've never upgraded before..
[10:42] <Snowman> and we're back via wireless. :D
[10:43] <westnyle> Really? damn this sounds nice downloading now
[10:43] <vox754> quaal, usually config files are in /etc and in under your on home directory ~/.
[10:43] <westnyle> I got two drives
[10:43] <demon_spork> !SuSe
[10:43] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[10:43] <westnyle> so i figured i can just use one and swap if i need to
[10:43] <quaal> vox754, i see
[10:43] <demon_spork> !linux
[10:43] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[10:43] <vox754> quaal, for each program ~/.program
[10:43] <westnyle> But Im wonderin about those Producing Apps, i use them daily
[10:43] <quaal> vox754, can i backup all of /etc ?
[10:43] <westnyle> FL Studio
[10:43] <westnyle> Reason
[10:43] <quaal> westnyle, linux kinda lacks for audio production
[10:43] <demon_spork> !super > demon_spork
[10:43] <quaal> wait for ubuntustudio.org
[10:43] <quaal> if its not already out
[10:44] <DARKGuy> what about ubuntustudio?
[10:44] <DARKGuy> oh
[10:44] <|ericsson|> westnyle: If you are in desperate need of running Windows apps, there are implementations under linux which makes those programs available
[10:44] <Taladan> quaal - it honestly depends on what kind of changes you've made to the system.  When I upgraded to feisty it asked about all the files that I had changed because it did something like a dif to them.  I would probably do something like a backup of ~ and /etc...if you need to replace any particular configuration file later, you'll have it (generall)
[10:44] <quaal> Coming this April...
[10:44] <Taladan> generally, even
[10:44] <quaal> hmm
[10:44] <quaal> guess its behind
[10:44] <vox754> quaal, go ahead, just think what they do is not that impressive, usually configuration files can be recreated on /etc, I guess you need to check that
[10:44] <zerokill88> anyone know of top quality video editing software for linux,such as final cut pro for mac ???
[10:44] <quaal> ok
[10:44] <quaal> awesome
[10:44] <quaal> thanks vox754
[10:45] <quaal> and Taladan
[10:45] <|ericsson|> westnyle: the best way to go, if you never tried linux before is to get a LiveCD, that way you can explore the world of real computing power, without installing/erasing anything from your harddrive
[10:45] <quaal> it looks like the ~/ backedup fine via command line
[10:45] <quaal> gnome drag and drop failed
[10:46] <puma7> HOLA
[10:46] <SecrethX> is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system (gutsy back to feisty)?
[10:46] <puma7> ME
[10:46] <|ericsson|> westnyle: Another MAJOR reason to leave Microsoft behind (my opinion) is the support you receive from various Linux user-groups, like this one in here...
[10:46] <vox754> SecrethX, oh man! ha ha
[10:46] <quaal> Gutsy ?
[10:46] <puma7> WHO HAS FEDORA 6
[10:47] <SecrethX> vox754, ?
[10:47] <tyrion> can i chat to someone in private for about 10 mins about fixing a dying Hard Drive?
[10:47] <puma7> WHO HASFEDORA 6
[10:47] <|ericsson|> puma7: maybe they are using it in #fedora ?
[10:47] <puma7> WHO HAS FEDORA  6
[10:47] <Snowman> puma7: not I.  this channel is named and devoted to another distro.  I've considered it for my other machine, but don't have it on this one.
[10:47] <xtknight> puma7, nobody does
[10:47] <xtknight> clearly
[10:47] <ditoa> westnyle: see if you can pick up a copy of this months linux format
[10:47] <Flannel> !away > SlickMcRunfast
[10:47] <puma7> OK THANKS
[10:47] <tyrion> puma7: Ade Bradshaw?
[10:47] <ditoa> it has a review of a good looking linux audio distro
[10:47] <puma7> TAKE CARE EVERYBODY
[10:48] <Yaze> THX
[10:48] <Snowman> OK!  AND GOOD LUCK FINDING YOUR CAPS KEY
[10:48] <ditoa> lol
[10:48] <Yaze> ???
[10:48] <Taladan> heh
[10:48] <pyrak> how do you launch the gui upgrader thingey?
[10:48] <vox754> !upgrade
[10:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:48] <Heartsbane> puma7:  http://pics.protocol42.com/funny/capslock.gif
[10:48] <westnyle> Im getting the 7.0.4 desktop iso for x86
[10:48] <xtknight> pyrak, gksu update-manager
[10:48] <pyrak> nvm, found it
[10:49] <westnyle> and gonna play with it on a fresh drive tonight
[10:49] <xtknight> ah upgrade, see above
[10:49] <vox754> Heartsbane, he left man, you are slow
[10:49] <|ericsson|> Snowman: :-)
[10:49] <firefoxman> Help! I installed mediawiki with apt-get, but cannot find it now!
[10:49] <pyrak> should i upgrade to feisty fawn?
[10:49] <pyrak> do i risk losing functionality?
[10:49] <Heartsbane> vox754: I will get the next CAPS LOCK, I swear
[10:49] <firefoxman> wait....
[10:49] <xtknight> pyrak, you only risk gaining functinoality
[10:49] <xtknight> :)
[10:50] <|ericsson|> pyrak: on the contrary, you risk getting more functionality
[10:50] <xtknight> lol.
 For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[10:50] <xtknight> i cant think of one reason why Edgy is superior to feisty
[10:50] <ffm> Help! I installed mediawiki with apt-get, but cannot find it now!
[10:50] <Syngin> whats the best place to start for looking to editing the source of an application. are there help channel's available?
[10:50] <ditoa> ffm: http://localhost/mediawiki
[10:50] <ditoa> you need mysql and php configured for it to work
[10:51] <sethk> Syngin, not sure what you mean.  vi and emacs are good program editors, among others
[10:51] <WesLappy> What folder contains your gnome settings? ie if I remove/add something to a toolbar where is that detail stored? .gnome? .gnome2? .gnome-private? .gconf?
[10:51] <ffm> ditoa, I do. Thanks.
[10:51] <Ahmuck> is there a way to globally configure settings in programs for every user?
[10:51] <ditoa> cya all
[10:51] <pyrak> |ericsson|, so i shouldn't be worried about stability?
[10:51] <badcloud> someone know how to track down a random restart?
[10:51] <Syngin> not so much the editors. but finding where the source is located and the individual files to edit
[10:51] <tanguym55> I just installed Ubuntu on this machine, and after configuring the nVidia restricted driver through the restricted drivers manager, I only get a black screen when X starts. Not even an error.
[10:51] <Taladan> Ahmuck: /etc/skel
[10:51] <ffm> ditoa, I was going to use moinmoin, but its instructions are aweful. (or i am just not good at following them)
[10:51] <Nolt> HOW TO STORE IFCONFIG ??
[10:51] <Taladan> If your users aren't created yet
[10:52] <vox754> Heartsbane, !
[10:52] <Ahmuck> Taladan: so, /etc/skel will globally configure firefox setttings, etc?
[10:52] <WesLappy> aharris: /etc/skel contains everything that will be copied and uid/gid updated when you create a new user
[10:52] <demon_spork> !heartsbane | vox754
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about heartsbane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <tanguym55> !caps | Nolt
[10:52] <tanguym55> Nolt, do you want to store the output of ifconfig as a file?
[10:52] <ubotu> Nolt: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:52] <WesLappy> aharris: only on adding a new user though..
[10:52] <Syngin> ipconfig should be set as an alias for ifconfig imho
[10:52] <|ericsson|> pyrak: no, feisty runs well on most systems, considering the amount of users upgrading daily it would wrong to think otherwise
[10:52] <Snowman> tanguym55: nothing in /var/log anywhere about it?
[10:52] <Taladan> Ahmuck - generally what you want to do is set up the initial user, configure everything, then copy that over to /etc/skel
[10:52] <Ahmuck> so it's possible to create a /etc/skel partition and then boot live ?
[10:53] <Snowman> tanguym55: nothing in /var/log/xorg.0.log or some such?
[10:53] <tanguym55> Snowman, I will look
[10:53] <Snowman> Syngin: why?  is that how windows does it still?
[10:53] <erstazi> pyrak, I upgraded to Feisty for stability (:
[10:53] <bododo> hi folks :)
[10:53] <Nolt> tanguym55 i set ifconfig eth0 ip etc. but after few seconds my old dhcp is back or after reboot
[10:53] <ffm> Syngin, you can set it yourself.
[10:53] <Nolt> i want save it cuz i cant use my connection
[10:53] <bododo> i just installed ubuntu on my ibook G4, but the installer made / h
[10:53] <SecrethX> vox754, ?
[10:53] <bododo> sorry
[10:53] <SecrethX> woops
[10:53] <bododo> /home a
[10:53] <Syngin> i know, but by default for newbies
[10:54] <bododo> /home as a directory
[10:54] <vox754> SecrethX, it's madness!
[10:54] <SecrethX> vox754, how come?
[10:54] <badcloud> anyone?
[10:54] <tanguym55> Snowman, I will reenable the drivers and retry, and maybe pastebin the log.
[10:54] <bododo> is it safe to create a partition called /home, mount it in fstab and move mly files to that partition?
[10:55] <Syngin> bododo, why not
[10:55] <void^> bododo: yes.
[10:55] <Nolt> tanguym55: and ?? how to save it ?? please help me
[10:55] <vox754> Syngin, just get to any source code on SourceForge.net, download the files .tar.gz and see the code by yourself
[10:55] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, is there a way to remove the huge arrow icon when I make a link to a folder in my desktop? (Gnome)
[10:55] <bododo> Syngin: void^ thank you guys!
[10:55] <westnyle> Is Fiesty Fawl ISO Bootable?
[10:55] <SecrethX> vox754, why would it be madness? what do you suggest then?
[10:55] <Syngin> cheers vox
[10:55] <ChaZ^college> Hello everyone! I am having a slight problem. I have Webmin, ProFTPD and SSH all running fine apart from that fact that when connecting to FTP from this machine (XP) it takes considerable amount of time to connect. Same with SSH, it asks for username but then hangs for like 15 seconds before it will prompt for my password. Can anyone help me with this please?
[10:56] <cybe> FAT32 to EXT3 anyone?
[10:56] <Kim^J> Hey all, need some help again. I want to do this with my Intel GMA945: Laptop screen + CRT screen. Not clone, not twinview. I want it to act as two monitors. As there where two computers.
[10:56] <sethk> ChaZ^college, if reverse DNS is failing, you'll see exactly that behavior
[10:56] <bododo> btw, i think my screen resolution isn't at its best, anyone using ibook 14"? and what did you put in your xorg.conf?
[10:56] <Taladan> ChaZ^college: Sounds like a problem with your network.  Are you dropping packets?
[10:56] <Taladan> Didn't even think about that
[10:57] <Ahmuck> would i need a /etc/skel partition or could i create that directory in a storage partition?
[10:57] <ChaZ^college> sethk. how do i find this out. And Taladan i dont know how to tell.
[10:57] <westnyle> What drivers do i need to get online with this Atheros
[10:57] <ChaZ^college> i dont think so as it is working fine
[10:57] <Taladan> Ahmuck: /etc/skel already exists
[10:57] <ChaZ^college> (the network)
[10:57] <Ahmuck> not running live
[10:57] <vox754> !atheros
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <sethk> ChaZ^college, try resolving the name on the command line.  Use "dig" or "host"
[10:57] <WesLappy> ahaller: /etc/skel is a directory that exists.. all it does is copy the contents to the /home/usename and adjust the userid/groupid to match the newly added user
[10:57] <Taladan> ChaZ^college: or even ping
[10:57] <ChaZ^college> sethk, from xp or in ubuntu?
[10:57] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, is there a way to remove the huge arrow icon when I make a link to a folder in my desktop? (Gnome)
[10:58] <sethk> ChaZ^college, ubuntu
[10:58] <ChaZ^college> okay
[10:58] <Taladan> if XP has dig, I'll eat my hat.
[10:58] <ChaZ^college> ill have to do it through putty though
[10:58] <WesLappy> Ahmuck: /etc/skel is a directory that exists.. all it does is copy the contents to the /home/usename and adjust the userid/groupid to match the newly added user
[10:58] <HOT> i have a P4 laptop with an ati X300 and a turion dual core lappy with an X1100 card, oddly the newer laptop (the x1100) gives lower fps, any thoughts on this?
[10:59] <SecrethX> vox754, why would it be madness? what do you suggest then?
[10:59] <amicrawler> hey guys lost my gui
[10:59] <westnyle> Wow.... 1600 Seeds for your Product on Demonoid to give you an idea
[10:59] <erstazi> H0T: ATI?
[10:59] <ChaZ^college> sethk, mind if i pm you please?
[10:59] <amicrawler> installed nvidia drivers
[11:00] <westnyle> Thats Done Deal... imma def try this
[11:00] <amicrawler> can any body help or get me going the right direction
[11:00] <vox754> SecrethX, oh, sorry about that, I missed it, what was that again?
[11:00] <erstazi> H0T: ati isn't very well supported
[11:00] <sethk> ChaZ^college, no, I don't mind, but you'll get more responses in the channel than from one person
[11:00] <ChaZ^college> okay
[11:00] <ChaZ^college> well
[11:00] <HOT> erstazi: yes on both laptops, but the older machine is giving better performance, i belive i am using stock drivers on both
[11:00] <SecrethX> vox754, why would it be madness? what do you suggest then?
[11:00] <SecrethX> :P
[11:00] <bododo> anyone with a 14" screen?
[11:00] <amicrawler> hey guys lost my gui
[11:00] <amicrawler> installed nvidia drivers
[11:00] <amicrawler> can any body help or get me going the right direction
[11:00] <ChaZ^college> the hostname of the computer is delta. so i did "host delta" and got this. delta has address 208.69.32.130
[11:00] <ChaZ^college> ;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
[11:00] <ChaZ^college> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:00] <ChaZ^college> sorry! should of used pastebin
[11:00] <ChaZ^college> my bad!
[11:00] <vox754> SecrethX, what I mean is I forgot your original question... so please repeat
[11:01] <bododo> amicrawler: change it back to nv in your xorg.conf
[11:01] <smoofra> anyone know how to get the mapping stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces to work
[11:01] <Taladan> hm
[11:01] <smoofra> ?
[11:01] <SecrethX> vox754, is was this one: 'is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system (gutsy back to feisty)?' you said it was madness
[11:01] <amicrawler> ok
[11:01] <smoofra> it's not even calling the script i tell it to call
[11:01] <amicrawler> were is that located
[11:01] <ChaZ^college> i dont know why it says the address is 208.69.32.130 when the computers ip is 192.168.1.6
[11:01] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, is there a way to remove the huge arrow icon when I make a link to a folder in my desktop? (Gnome)
[11:01] <Ahmuck> will the live cd use a swap partition on the hard drive?
[11:01] <bododo> amicrawler: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:01] <Taladan> ChaZ^college: broken reverse lookup in dns.
[11:02] <Snowman> Ahmuck: as far as I know it just uses a ram drive.
[11:02] <Tarkus> anyone know why some program (firefox, thunderbird) are in the taskbar on all of the workspaces?
[11:02] <vox754> SecrethX, I wasn't talking to you.... and yeah, I was laughing because you aren't supposed to be using gutsy yet... shame on you. that is all I have to say.
[11:02] <Taladan> you have an internal DNS setup?
[11:02] <ChaZ^college> Taladan, thanks, how would i go about solving that?
[11:02] <ChaZ^college> erm
[11:02] <ChaZ^college> don't know
[11:02] <Taladan> internal to the network
[11:02] <SecrethX> vox754, its not my fault im using it now :P
[11:02] <Taladan> ala - a DNS server
[11:02] <ChaZ^college> i got a router
[11:02] <vox754> SecrethX, (madness!)
[11:02] <ChaZ^college> but i dont have an actual dns server in my network
[11:02] <Taladan> it's probably trying to act as a dns server.
[11:02] <SecrethX> vox754, lol
[11:03] <Taladan> How many machines on your segment?
[11:03] <ChaZ^college> 4
[11:03] <Taladan> hm
[11:03] <ChaZ^college> + router
[11:03] <ChaZ^college> 208.*...... sounds like my external dns
[11:03] <ChaZ^college> for my isp
[11:03] <Taladan> well, you could either a) set up BIND, or hand tool /etc/hosts on each box to point correctly to each particular machine
[11:04] <CerebroJD> ok, needing some more assistance.  I ran: sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common
[11:04] <ChaZ^college> okay
[11:04] <Taladan> If you're planning on ever adding more machines though, i'd probably run bind
[11:04] <ChaZ^college> erm
[11:04] <ChaZ^college> not for a long time
[11:04] <HymnToLife> you meant apt-get install, I guess
[11:04] <CerebroJD> and it installed
[11:04] <ChaZ^college> and it wouldnt be lots of computers
[11:04] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, is there a way to remove the huge arrow icon when I make a link to a folder in my desktop? (Gnome)
[11:04] <CerebroJD> yeah
[11:04] <CerebroJD> meant install
[11:04] <ChaZ^college> DARKGuy, try right clicking it, and select properties, look under "Emblems" it might be under that
[11:04] <Ahmuck> http://librenix.com/?inode=9107
[11:04] <CerebroJD> and now, when I try to use ndiswrapper, it says theres no versions
[11:04] <_5h466y> where can i find good info about setting the best partition layout for a ubuntu fresh install ??????
[11:05] <Ahmuck> ah, this is similar to what i am trying to acomplish
[11:05] <DARKGuy> ChaZ^college: I tried looking in there - nothing :P
[11:05] <ChaZ^college> damn
[11:05] <DARKGuy> yes, damn :(
[11:05] <imbecile> hey how do i diagnose what programs are crashing?
[11:05] <Taladan> Well, if you're statically assigning addresses on your segment then there's nothing wrong with hand tooling /etc/hosts, it's just that with DHCP and BIND working in conjuction, that does away with having to hand modify it and/or remember to back it up every time you upgrade.
[11:05] <smoofra> anyone know how to set up a mapping stanza in /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:05] <CerebroJD> I dont even know where to go to find the docs for it
[11:06] <ChaZ^college> Taladan, how would i go about setting up BIND then?
[11:06] <DARKGuy> ChaZ^college: someone in the spanish channel suggested me to remove the png file or to link it somewhere unexistant... but there's ought to be another way, 'cause that means I'll have to repeat the same procedure for every icon theme I install =/
[11:06] <gglser> is there a program for Linux/Ubuntu similar to MatLab but opensource/free??
[11:06] <CerebroJD> whoah, I just man'd it, I might be ok
[11:06] <ChaZ^college> try DARKGuy
[11:06] <ChaZ^college> true*
[11:06] <smoofra> gglser: octave
[11:06] <zerokill88> anyone use Cinelerra???
[11:06] <gglser> smoofra: thanks ill check it out!
[11:07] <ChaZ^college> DARKGuy, just googled it, take a look at this, dont know if it will help, but its worth a try , http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2731185
[11:07] <_5h466y> what is the best partition layout for ubuntu ?
[11:07] <sethk> _5h466y, one large partition
[11:07] <neildarlow> gglser: octave.org has guides on matlab compatibility
[11:07] <ChaZ^college> DARKGuy, ignore that, its stupid site lol
[11:07] <ChaZ^college> not related
[11:07] <ChaZ^college> !BIND
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <Taladan> ChaZ^college: It's not that hard, especially if you're just setting up as a stub server you can apt-get install bind9
[11:08] <Dave_is_sex1> hey folks. i want to know if there's any dvb software that runs on ubuntu. I'm thinking of getting one of those usb sticks (sorry to be unclear, but anyone who knows the answer will understand the question)
[11:08] <SecrethX> is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system (gutsy back to feisty)?
[11:08] <ChaZ^college> DARKGuy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2248674
[11:08] <Ahmuck> is there a way to partition a hard drive without installation from a live cd ?
[11:08] <gglser> neildarlow: thanks
[11:08] <ChaZ^college> stub server?
[11:08] <Dave_is_sex1> ahmuck: cfdisk
[11:08] <Dave_is_sex1> ahmuck: it's awesome
[11:08] <_5h466y> Ahmuck, try gparted live cd
[11:09] <cavalierprime> Dave have you tried dvd::rip at gnomefiles.org?
[11:09] <neildarlow> ChaZ^college: sometimes referred to as a "caching-only nameserver"
[11:09] <ChaZ^college> oh
[11:09] <vox754> Ahmuck, yes, just partition but don't install. Use Knoppix, use GParted CD, many ways
[11:09] <ChaZ^college> Taladan, the server is just to centrally store my files with access to ftp and samba n stuff
[11:09] <Taladan> it can get pretty indepth on larger networks, but generally what you want to do is download and run it, then, if you're using DHCP point all boxes on the segment to that internal address to use it as DNS.  You'll have to probably set up your host record in there, but you do it once and it's good.
[11:09] <quaal> ok
[11:09] <CerebroJD> ok, this seems really straightforward... I dont get why its not working.
[11:09] <quaal> i'm attempting feisty upgrade
[11:09] <quaal> here it goes
[11:09] <_5h466y> Ahmuck, gparted live cd is best suited these days if u dont want to go hardcore stuff
[11:09] <ward_> hoe kom ik men default gateway te wzeten in linux / ubuntu?
[11:10] <Dave_is_sex1> cavalierprime: it's not ripping that i want to do, just decoding dvb, which is the european digital video broadcasting format. it is essentially mpeg2 + protocol
[11:10] <CerebroJD> Just installed ndiswrapper
[11:10] <Taladan> *nods*  Yeah, being able to ssh <boxname> from any machine on your network is always nice though ;)
[11:10] <CerebroJD> and yet no versions are installed
[11:10] <snowpunk98> What would be the best application to use to communicate to bluetooth devices
[11:10] <ChaZ^college> Taladan, thing is, i can do that in putty on my xp machine!
[11:11] <neildarlow> snowpunk98: nautilus after installing gnome-bluetooth
[11:11] <Taladan> ChaZ^college: no, it's trying to do that, but it's natting out through your router and then coming back in, delaying your connection.  Reverse DNS isn't working on your segment.
[11:11] <snowpunk98> I installed gnome-bluetooth but how do I pair
[11:11] <ChaZ^college> okay
[11:11] <antonis_del> hello
[11:11] <DARKGuy> ChaZ^college: heh, that's what I was gonna try too - thanks for the help, I guess I'm gonna do that :P
[11:12] <antonis_del> I need some help
[11:12] <Ahmuck> problem is, i have the live cd, and a blank hard drive.  so downloading another cd and burning it would be a bit of a problem
[11:12] <Taladan> And if it's taking 15 seconds to nat out and back in, that's like trying to connect to your own house from a router on the moon.
[11:12] <neildarlow> snowpunk98: the default setup allows pairing just by attempting to transfer a file
[11:12] <alistair_blunt> /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned  off_______can somebody help for this??
[11:12] <baronvon75> does any one know if easyubuntu works with feisty fawn?
[11:12] <tanguym55> I just installed the nVidia driver through the Restricted Drivers Manager, and when I boot up, I get a black screen. The backlight doesn't even turn on. However, everything else works... if I type my username and password, I hear the startup sound. I can pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you like.
[11:12] <RedRose> I attemped to delete my linux partition and resize my windows partition, but now I lost the space, can anyone help
[11:12] <pegaseus1> hello, I'm hving problems with gaim 2.0 beta3, where msn pictures aren't showing up
[11:12] <pegaseus1> as in buddy pics
[11:13] <snowpunk98> neildarlow, OK so I have gnome-bluetooth open and file browser open
[11:13] <snowpunk98> How do I see my phone
[11:13] <Dave_is_sex1> redrose: lost all the partitions?
[11:13] <tanguym55> Someone was helping me before, but I forget their nick
[11:13] <Taladan> pegaseus1: try either #gaim or #pidgin
[11:13] <Tarkus> anyone know why some program (firefox, thunderbird) are in the taskbar on all of the workspaces?
[11:13] <yeti> !ati
[11:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:13] <ChaZ^college> Taladan, how would i go about setting it up in hosts then, i got hosts up editing, what kind of line would i need to put in?
[11:13] <tanguym55> Taladan, #gaim forwards to #pidgin
[11:13] <Ahmuck> nm, i found the gnome partition editor on the live cd
[11:13] <neildarlow> snowpunk98: power-up your phone's bluetooth and right click your file and choose the device to send to
[11:13] <alistair_blunt> /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned  off
[11:14] <RedRose> Dave_is_sex1, No... I still have the windows parition, but it's not seeing the resize. So while the entire sda1 is 75GB, all anything, windows mount or unix mount ever see is 61GB under sad1, and nothing else
[11:14] <Taladan> 192.168.0.2 <alias> <alias> <alias>
[11:14] <Taladan> ferex:
[11:14] <SecrethX> is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system (gutsy back to feisty)?
[11:14] <pegaseus1> ok, thanks
[11:14] <snowpunk98> There is no device in the send to
[11:14] <spikeb> downgrading does not work.
[11:14] <Dave_is_sex1> tarkus: there are probably 'stuck'. try the button on the title bar that isn't maximise, minimise, or close. if it's not there, then you need to find the settings fro your window manager in your control centre
[11:14] <imbecile> hey how do i diagnose what programs are crashing? gnome isnt even working for me.. kde has crashes but it at least still runs
[11:14] <Taladan> 192.168.0.2 ftp-box ssh-box mail-box
[11:14] <tanguym55> SecrethX, I'd ask for help in #ubuntu+1 if it's related to GUtsy
[11:14] <Taladan> that will alias all of those to 192.168.0.2
[11:14] <frojnd> hello guys... I have this huge problem. I have XP on computer and than I was into installing kubuntu feisty. So I put cd in and boot from it but somehow there was some trouble with cd, so I ctrl + alt+ del and quit the loading part (I did't come into KDE desktop yet) and after that I just insert another cd also with kubuntu on it and installed kubuntu. But somewhow at the beginning there isn't any XP in the grub list. How can I choose
[11:14] <frojnd> to come into XP ??
[11:15] <SecrethX> tanguym55, well I can ask there, but it is also related to feisty since I want feisty back ;o
[11:15] <Horscht> !beryl
[11:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:15] <antonis_del> I need some help, I cannot enable Desktop Effects on my laptop.I have an ATI card with 200M chipset, I cannot find proper drivers, any ideas???
[11:15] <Dave_is_sex1> redrose: if both windows and linux say the partition is smaller, what is saying that it is larger?
[11:15] <SecrethX> spikeb, do you have any other suggestions then?
[11:15] <javaJake> Hello everyone
[11:15] <alistair_blunt> /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned  off_____after feisty upgrade___help_tnx
[11:16] <antonis_del> thnx
[11:16] <neildarlow> snowpunk98: Send to should show OBEX Push
[11:16] <javaJake> I'm looking for help about this error message:  (II) RADEON(1): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)
[11:17] <Taladan> And now I need to afk for a bit
[11:17] <nuked_omen> they always tell you you got A GB in your drive, then you figure it's about 4% less than A
[11:17] <javaJake> I have a "Hsync frequency", but is that an hsync range?
[11:17] <Tarkus> Dave_is_sex1, hmm. but they always do that, ever since i installed ubuntu 2 weeks ago. and yes, minimize, maximize. and close are there when i right click on it in the taskbar (on all workspaces).
[11:17] <RedRose> Dave_is_sex1, When I look at the entire sda in gparted, it says sda1 is 75GB. When I mount it with unix or windows, it says sda1 is 61GB.
[11:17] <bluefox83> i need to know how to permanently change the hostname of a machine from terminal
[11:17] <neildarlow> javaJake: X thinks your monitor can't support that setting
[11:17] <javaJake> neildarlow, OK
[11:18] <neildarlow> javaJake: a range is like 30-80
[11:18] <javaJake> neildarlow, it does, because I had it working under clone.
[11:18] <javaJake> neildarlow, oh, dang
[11:18] <javaJake> neildarlow, so, I need a range?
[11:18] <neildarlow> javaJake: for hsync it's kHz and for vsync it's Hz
[11:18] <Dave_is_sex1> redrose: ah. yes, that's an unfortunate constant in harddisks. I'm not sure why exactly, but you always get less to use than you'd think. If anyone here can explain why that is, i'd like to know. something to do with bytes and blocks i expect
[11:19] <tanguy_> Sorry, system crashed... if anyone can help with my nvidia driver problem, that would be great.
[11:19] <javaJake> neildarlow, OK, I guess I'll have to find that then... thanks
[11:19] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: what card?
[11:19] <RedRose> Dave_is_sex1, No, I know about that... but this is about 20GB falling off ever partition map
[11:19] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, hold on
[11:19] <Tarkus> Dave_is_sex1, and when i click on it in the taskbar from a different workspace, it rotates the cube to the workspace where it is. very anoying. any ideas?
[11:19] <ChaZ^college> Taladan, http://pastebin.ca/472860
[11:20] <ChaZ^college> Put it in there since I cannot pm you.
[11:20] <ChaZ^college> I put it*
[11:20] <RedRose> Dave_is_sex1, http://www.techsupportforum.com/attachments/windows-vista-support/13022d1178395871-deleted-ubuntu-missing-space-disk.jpg <- Check out the image
[11:21] <RedRose> look at the capacity vs the actual partition
[11:21] <alistair_blunt> /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned  off_________suggestions?
[11:21] <nuked_omen> Dave_is_sex1, RedRose: the file system has to use some disk space, but still 16Gb is too much lost space
[11:21] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go]  (rev a3)
[11:21] <CerebroJD> ndiswrapper is not working properly here... I just installed it, but now its showing no versions being installed when I try to use it
[11:21] <jago25> How do I determine what my router's IP is? (gateway is modem, not router)
[11:22] <neildarlow> alistair_blunt: is this from a script executed by cron?
[11:22] <Magos> what is the default admin password in ubuntu?
[11:22] <rsk> jago25: whatsmyip.com works ok
[11:22] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: what is the problem... no X? error msgs?
[11:22] <nuked_omen> unformatted partitions will always be greater than formatted
[11:22] <nuked_omen> cuz the file system need to store some stuff
[11:22] <rsk> jago25: um no.. whats the router modell_
[11:22] <neildarlow> Magos: there isn't one. use sudo
[11:22] <rsk> ?
[11:22] <RedRose> nuked_omen, Exactly... and idk what is going on... I do remember the steps. Delete Swap, Delete /, Resize Windows. That's it, and now i'm missing the entire space that I resized for
[11:22] <jago25> rsk, it's not the default
[11:23] <Magos> ok, I'm trying to get my laptops wireless card working and did System > Administration > Networking
[11:23] <Magos> its complaining it needs a password =/
[11:23] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, when I enable the driver, the screen doesn't turn on... I can get to my vttys, but when going back to X, the screen doesn't light up. However, if I type my username and password, I can still hear all the sounds as normal.
[11:23] <neildarlow> Magos: enter your password
[11:23] <jago25> magos: enter usual password, not root passwd
[11:23] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: i see... have you disabled 'nv' in your linux-restricted-modules-common file?
[11:24] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: it is in /etc/X11/
[11:24] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, no, I'll try that and reenable. Where is that file?
[11:24] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, ok :)
[11:24] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: that should do it
[11:25] <kane77> is there anything similar to packet tracer available for ubuntu?
[11:25] <neildarlow> kane77: tcpdump?
[11:25] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, thank you
[11:25] <ahave> is there a way to install autocad 2006 on a ubuntu system?
[11:25] <void^_> wireshark, if you want something flashy.
[11:25] <neildarlow> kane77: i'm not familiar with packet tracer
[11:25] <ahave> using wine I get an error stating it needs IE 5.1+
[11:25] <strabes> ahave: probably with wine or crossover..
[11:26] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: no problem
[11:26] <strabes> ahave: then try to install IE as well if you must
[11:26] <kane77> neildarlow, eh I dont mean program for tracing packets, but the cisco simulation tool...
[11:27] <neildarlow> kane77: can't help there, sorry
[11:27] <frojnd> how can I start beryl: what packages do I have to install??'
[11:27] <luxores> morgen
[11:27] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, I don't have a linux-restricted-modules-common file in /etc/X11/
[11:27] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, you mean xorg.conf?
[11:27] <kane77> neildarlow, nevermind, I guess I try installing wine and see if i can get it running...
[11:27] <luxores> habe ein kleines OT-problem
[11:27] <Dave_is_sex1> tarkus: i'm afraid not. i experienced the same thing 2 weeks ago, but it just stopped all by itself. firefox was the program in my case too
[11:27] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, I made sure that nv was changed to nvidia, and that's what breaks it. Changing it back to nv (disabling the driver) makes it work fine. However, I'd like to be able to use the binary driver.
[11:28] <simo_> je tam nejakej cech?
[11:28] <luxores> unsre neue Backup-Nas (ss4000e) zeigt trotz RAID10 die Festplatten als hotplug-unable an
[11:28] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: one moment
[11:28] <Fezzler> Having trouble
[11:29] <luxores> woran kann das liegen?
[11:29] <Fezzler> Anyone able to assist newbie?
[11:29] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, found it: it's in /etc/default
[11:29] <tanguy_> !ask | Fezzler
[11:29] <ubotu> Fezzler: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:30] <nuked_omen> Fezzler: you must ask a question at once
[11:30] <CheshireViking> !cz | simo_
[11:30] <ubotu> simo_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:30] <Fezzler> Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn locked up after daughter was scrolling through screen saver selection
[11:30] <Dave_is_sex1> redrose: can't see the image i'm afraid. what filesystem is the partition? ntfs?
[11:30] <luxores> oh, sorry i forgot to join the german channel
[11:30] <Fezzler> I had to reboot and the computer rebooted to root@computername: #
[11:30] <ahave> strabes, is crossover a diff type of wine?
[11:31] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: sry you're right. my mind was in a different place
[11:31] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: crossover is 100 times easier to use
[11:31] <strabes> ahave: crossover is proprietary; you have to buy it. but it does work better
[11:31] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, I read the file, and it says disabling "nv" will disable BOTH nVidia drivers, which probably means that it'll disable nvidia as well. I don't want that.
[11:31] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: anyway, what driver package are you trying to use specifically?
[11:31] <ahave> ah
[11:31] <nuked_omen> crossover is sluggish
[11:31] <ahave> Dave_is_sex1, strabes, nvm then. i like free
[11:31] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, nvidia-glx, as installed by the Restricted Drivers Manager
[11:31] <Fezzler> On start-up it said their were problems with corrupted files
[11:32] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: :) me too. but wine is a real pain. crossover is fantastic
[11:32] <nuked_omen> crossover doesn't allow you to use the full features of M$ office
[11:32] <ahave> Dave_is_sex1, how is wine a pain?
[11:32] <strabes> ahave: then good luck running autoCAD :)
[11:32] <atu> After restarting my computer, I am unable to boot into X.  I get the errors @ http://paste.cheerupfuck.net/156  Any ideas?  I've reinstalled the nvidia drivers (both glx and glx-new)
[11:32] <nuked_omen> although it claims to do so
[11:32] <ThinkBox> tanguy_: ok... that is the same package I'm using. with the nv disabled
[11:32] <Fezzler> I ran fsck -y and then it booted back to gnome
[11:32] <tanguy_> ThinkBox, oh, ok, I'll try it.
[11:32] <Fezzler> but I really have no idea what I'm doing
[11:32] <strabes> atu: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:32] <nuked_omen> wine is a pain because 'wine program.exe' works only 5% of the time
[11:33] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: i just find it is always returning errors of somesort. it also has a terrible gui, though it is not necessary to use it
[11:33] <nuked_omen> wine has to be tweaked forever
[11:33] <nuked_omen> and ever
[11:33] <gan|y|med> hi
[11:33] <Fezzler> Is there a Ubuntu program to check if my harddisk is bad?
[11:33] <ahave> nuked_omen, oh.. it worked to start the installer for autocad
[11:33] <ctkroeker> I have an old PII 300Mhz 256MB RAM pc that needs to be fast, have openoffice, samba integrated in browser, firefox. Ubuntu takes 5min. to boot and Xubuntu is also slow...
[11:33] <usser> nuked_omen: hm it depends if the program works with wine
[11:33] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: surely you don't want wine for ms office??
[11:33] <vom0> is there a better channel to ask about a sound problem in feisty ?
[11:33] <vom0> i filled out a bug report on launchpad already
[11:33] <gan|y|med> i messed up my (k)ubuntu design. is there any way to restore the original design???
[11:33] <strabes> ctkroeker: try damn small linux
[11:33] <ahave> Dave_is_sex1, wine for autocad 2006
[11:33] <_5h466y> question!!! ubuntu partitioning can damage my hard drive ??
[11:33] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: autocad isn't free ;)
[11:33] <neildarlow> Fezzler: most likely a configuration file was damaged, fsck moved it to lost+found and it was recreated at next GNOME start
[11:33] <strabes> ctkroeker: or you could try openbox
[11:33] <nuked_omen> usser: many programs work, but only after you heavily tweak wine
[11:33] <ctkroeker> does that have a samba browser?
[11:34] <vom0> gan|y|med: you mean your desktop layout ?
[11:34] <usser> nuked_omen: well yea
[11:34] <ahave> Dave_is_sex1, i know. i just need to use autocad.. i have a pirated copy
[11:34] <Otacon22> Hi i have 2 screens connected on my video card and i want to see differents work area in them, how can i make this possibile?
[11:34] <nuked_omen> ahave: 3dsmax installer ran on wine.. so what?
[11:34] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: lol. shhhhhh
[11:34] <nuked_omen> you use the program not the installer
[11:34] <_5h466y> question!!! ubuntu partitioning can damage my hard drive ??
[11:34] <nuked_omen> DUH!!!!!!!!!
[11:34] <vom0> _5h466y: no
[11:34] <gan|y|med> vom0: yes, exactly
[11:34] <Fezzler> Does the configuration file often get damaged when the computer locks up and has to be rebooted by turning off computer?
[11:34] <tanguy_> _5h466y, it shouldn't, however, you should back up first.
[11:34] <usser> Fezzler: no
[11:34] <neildarlow> _5h466y: it can destroy existing data
[11:34] <ahave> Dave_is_sex1, err.. i mean trail version
[11:34] <vom0> gan|y|med: rm -rf .kde/ ? that will reset your settings for all kde related back to default
[11:35] <usser> Fezzler: never happened on my memory
[11:35] <taxman> hola
[11:35] <Dave_is_sex1> _5h466y_: it's absolutely worth learning what you're doing before trying incase you screw up
[11:35] <gan|y|med> vom0: yeah, i already had this. but then i'll lose all my settings, including kmal etc
[11:35] <usser> i dunno wine works perfectly for what i need
[11:35] <amicrawler> is there a nano editor for linux
[11:35] <nuked_omen> emulators, api layers, virtual pcs just don't work
[11:35] <taxman> pues a mi apecme que no
[11:35] <daddymac> !offtopic
[11:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:35] <usser> amicrawler: yes there is
[11:35] <Fezzler> The "Force Quit" command for Ubuntu is Ctrl+Alt+Bcsp, right?
[11:35] <_5h466y> i will be more precise in my question
[11:35] <CerebroJD> dammit, I dont understand this error
[11:35] <neildarlow> amicrawler: yes, it's in base
[11:35] <nuked_omen> i'd rather run only native software
[11:35] <taxman> mas bien yo creo qeu es uha metira
[11:36] <mc44> CerebroJD: what error?
[11:36] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: ah. let me know if there is a big performance difference
[11:36] <nuked_omen> if i want to use office, i use windowz
[11:36] <gan|y|med> does anybody know where the desktop layout is saved below .kde/ ???
[11:36] <nuked_omen> emulation is a lie
[11:36] <amicrawler> so it is easy  to edit the org.x11 config file
[11:36] <CerebroJD> mc44, trying to install network drivers with ndiswrapper
[11:36] <CerebroJD> seems very straightforward
[11:36] <mc44> CerebroJD: right
[11:36] <daddymac> !feisty
[11:36] <amicrawler> i know how to use  ee and kate
[11:36] <CheshireViking> !es | taxman
[11:36] <CerebroJD> I just uninstalled and reinstalled ndiswrapper
[11:36] <strabes> amicrawler: it's all about mousepad
[11:36] <CerebroJD> 1.38
[11:36] <neildarlow> amicrawler: nano is similar to ee
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> nuked_omen: its not a total lie..... some programs work very well with wine, vmware, etc, others don't
[11:36] <daddymac> !edgy
[11:37] <_5h466y> suppose i have changed many times my partition layout for some reasons ...
[11:37] <nuked_omen> ubotu is silent today
[11:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[11:37] <ubotu> taxman: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is silent today - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <ahave> Dave_is_sex1, sure thing.. if i get it up and running
[11:37] <jago25> ahave, can't install ie with ies4linux
[11:37] <CerebroJD> and its saying "no versions of ndiswrapper found!"
[11:37] <predaeus> Fezzler, no, ctrl-alt-backspace kills the X server and is not a recommended way to do so, as lock files of applications could remain and cause problems later
[11:37] <atu> strabes: http://paste.cheerupfuck.net/159
[11:37] <CerebroJD> even though it even autocompletes the command if I type ndisw+tab
[11:37] <_5h466y> suppose i have changed many times my partition layout for some reasons ... could that damage my hdd ??
[11:37] <CheshireViking> nuked_omen, I guess ubotu got its voice back :)
[11:37] <ChaZ^college> Taladan, i'm still having problems with malformed packets :(
[11:37] <SecrethX> is there someone here with experience about downgrading a system (gutsy back to feisty)?
[11:37] <Dave_is_sex1> ahave: cheers. can you pm, cos i'll loose it in the channel
[11:37] <mc44> CerebroJD: run ndiswrapper-1.9
[11:37] <nuked_omen> CheshireViking: he choked proabably
[11:37] <Fezzler> So how does one Froce Quit a locked up program?
[11:38] <_5h466y> suppose i have changed many times my partition layout for some reasons ... could that damage my hdd ??
[11:38] <nuked_omen> IndyGunFreak: yeah, if you're talking about calculator and notepad, that stuff works, but autocad, 3dsmax.. real programs for real work, emulators are useless
[11:38] <predaeus> Fezzler, are you on ubuntu with gnome?
[11:38] <neildarlow> _5h466y: partitioning only modifies the partition table. it doesn't cause damage
[11:38] <CerebroJD> mc44: command not found?
[11:38] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: type 'top' into terminal for a task manager
[11:38] <Fezzler> Yes sir, Ubuntu with Gnome
[11:38] <amicrawler> how do i save in nano
[11:38] <CerebroJD> amicrawler
[11:38] <jago25> SecrethX, no, but gut feeling on that is that it's probably best to backup and start again...
[11:38] <neildarlow> amicrawler: Ctrl-X
[11:38] <CerebroJD> quit, then it asks you
[11:38] <amicrawler> big thanx
[11:38] <IndyGunFreak> nuked_omen: well, i don't use an emulator for calculator and notepad, as linux has its own versions of that.  I've got a couple games that workf ine under Wine..
[11:38] <SecrethX> jago25, and if /home is on a seperate partition?
[11:38] <predaeus> Fezzler, then open System Monitor in the system look for the application you want to kill and use kill or whatever the option is on it
[11:39] <mc44> CerebroJD: you need to install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:39] <CerebroJD> tried that, it told me to install ndiswrapper-common
[11:39] <_5h466y> ok :), the thing is my hard drive has gone slow from some time ago ...
[11:39] <CerebroJD> which I did
[11:39] <ziggy23> I am having trouble identifying my modem chipset... I get an error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19344/  line 8
[11:39] <CerebroJD> twice
[11:39] <Fezzler> Pred: How can you do that if the entire system is frozen?
[11:39] <ziggy23> the sudo command
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> CerebroJD: why don't you just install Feisty?... Wireless is supposed to be much easier with Feisty
[11:39] <strabes> atu: check this page: http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1087
[11:39] <CerebroJD> Feisty IS installed
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[11:39] <CerebroJD> lol
[11:40] <neildarlow> IndyGunFreak: don't believe everything you hear :)
[11:40] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: ah yes, my pet hate of the os. Pred: I'm listening too
[11:40] <ChaZ^college> How can i disable Reverse DNS Lookup?
[11:40] <jago25> SecrethX, should be a lot easy with separate /home
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> neildarlow: lol... well i'll say this, there's a lot less wireless questions here with Feisty, than there were with Edgy/Dapper.
[11:40] <strabes> atu: i don't have an nvidia so i don't think i can help you very much
[11:40] <ziggy23> command not found
[11:40] <SecrethX> jago25, but wont I have problems with permissions or something like that?
[11:40] <neildarlow> IndyGunFreak: not if you've got ralink chipsets :)
[11:40] <strabes> atu: by the way, when you get some sort of error, if you paste a part of it into google generally someone else has had the same problem and there will be a fix
[11:40] <predaeus> Fezzler, then hit ctrl-alt-f1, enter your login name and password, call   ps -e   look for the pid of the application that is causing the problem. probably run top first to see what is causing it (100% cpu usage) (quit top with q) and then kill the application first with    kill -15 PID   and when that does not work    kill -9 PID
[11:40] <atu> strabes: OK, thank you though.
[11:40] <mc44> CerebroJD: did you try installing ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> neildarlow: this is actually the first time i've saw ndiswrapper discussed with Feisty
[11:41] <Fezzler> Because turning the computer off-on after freeze up corrupts the boot process
[11:41] <CerebroJD> mc44, no
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> neildarlow: yeah, thats probably an issue.
[11:41] <predaeus> Fezzler, if it works you can get back to the desktop with alt-f7
[11:41] <tclow> woot 1390 broadcom wifi working with ndiswrapper, thx all
[11:41] <jago25> SecrethX, easiest thing is keep same user accounts on fresh start; recreate same username. I think this is ok
[11:41] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: if the system is still listening to you at all,... oh predaeus said it. to get back, once it's fixed hit ctrl+alt+f7
[11:41] <neildarlow> tclow: good, now you can test it :)
[11:41] <CerebroJD> mc44, installing now
[11:41] <mc44> CerebroJD: ok
[11:42] <CerebroJD> holy hell
[11:42] <CerebroJD> it worked (i think)
[11:42] <jago25> SecrethX, though, things like config files in /home could be different format to those from the newer versions
[11:42] <jago25> SecrethX, that#s your main problem
[11:42] <_5h466y> ok :), the thing is my hard drive has gone slow from some time ago ...
[11:42] <Fezzler> I'm diggin Ubuntu Fiesty, but me thinks video problem keeps locking up computer
[11:42] <_5h466y> but is ok ... i will revise my mobo bios :)
[11:42] <SecrethX> jago25, and if I only keep vital info? Like docs, mp3s, etc?
[11:42] <SecrethX> jago25, and then delete gnome configs etc?
[11:42] <jago25> SecrethX, I would think that would be fine
[11:43] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: have you run badblocks on your drive?
[11:43] <neildarlow> Fezzler: look into your AGP settings e.g. Fast Write and speed
[11:43] <SecrethX> jago25, so backing up to /home, boot into the live cd, delete the configs, and reinstall?
[11:43] <Fezzler> ND: where do I do that?
[11:43] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, never did ...
[11:44] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: I would HIGHLY recommend it. often times a slowing drive is a failing drive
[11:44] <fbarcenas> Anyone know when the new Ubuntu Visa Electron card will be available?
[11:44] <Fezzler> Because all my lock-ups are video related (attempt to play mov file, screen saver graphics, ogg files, etc)
[11:44] <neildarlow> Fezzler: you can explicity set them in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. the manpage for xorg.conf and your video driver will help
[11:44] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: I didn't catch all of what was going on with your situation...
[11:44] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, i just have 6 months with it :(
[11:45] <Fezzler> cool
[11:45] <neildarlow> Fezzler: disabling AGP fast write and setting speed to 4x might help. try each in turn
[11:45] <pabllo> hi
[11:45] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, i have repartitioned my entire drive 2 times
[11:45] <pabllo> can anyone help me with mi aMSN?
[11:46] <Fezzler> ND: so at command line type "man xorg.conf"
[11:46] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, since that my drive just started going slow
[11:46] <jago25> SecrethX, yes. I think I've done a similar thing with a different distro but I was upgrading and I kept the configs at first. Basically what you'd do it a straightforward backup and reinstall, no different from Windows or whatever
[11:46] <neildarlow> Fezzler: you got it
[11:46] <omeir> Who can help in WIFI configuration?
[11:46] <mc44> CerebroJD: it worked?
[11:46] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: I am an owner of a computer store. Even with the better drives, we often get bad ones right from the supplier, and even see some fail as soon as 2 weeks after initial use
[11:46] <CerebroJD> mc44, must reboot it to see, I think
[11:46] <SecrethX> jago25, k, thx for the help
[11:47] <mc44> CerebroJD: no you dont need to
[11:47] <CerebroJD> mmmkay
[11:47] <Fezzler> ND:  You're a cool guy.  Where do I go to learn more about dropping to command line to control my computer?
[11:47] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, so you're telling me that Ubuntu will never hurt my drive as i though ...
[11:47] <omeir> hey
[11:47] <mc44> CerebroJD: if you just modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:47] <omeir> anyone here free to help?
[11:47] <neildarlow> Fezzler: Applications|Accessories|Terminal and sudo
[11:47] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: repartitioning and reformatting can aggravate a failing drive, which could explain the slowness
[11:47] <Fezzler> Ubuntu books at bookstore are too basic (how to install; OpenOffice basics; etc.)
[11:48] <CerebroJD> mc44, what does that do?
[11:48] <Snowman> anyone here have any experience with cpufreq?
[11:48] <Fezzler> I need something a little more intermediate, but plain language.  Not afraid of command line.
[11:48] <mc44> CerebroJD: loads the ndiswrapper module :)
[11:48] <Snowman> I'm trying to follow this howto, and I keep getting permission denied errors
[11:48] <mc44> CerebroJD: you are following some instructions somewhere? :)
[11:48] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: have a look for RUTE. It's a great linux resource, and covers alot
[11:48] <Snowman> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CPUFreq#Step_5:_Testing.2FConfiguration
[11:48] <CerebroJD> yes
[11:48] <CerebroJD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342558
[11:48] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: and no, ubuntu itself isn't going to affect the bios, or the drive itself beyond what a reformat, or cleaning up of running/corrupt processes could fix
[11:48] <CerebroJD> also, theres help listed in the ubuntu help stuff
[11:48] <neildarlow> Fezzler: from X, Ctrl-Alt-F1 and log in
[11:48] <Fezzler> Dave: RUTE is a Web site?
[11:49] <mrigns> firestarter shows multiple connections at the bittorrent ports (6881-6889) i did not use bittorrent recently and i close all ports after using them. so the ports are not forwarded or opened neither by my iptables nor my NAT. I tried searching the running processes in psx aux' output but could not find any suspicious tasks. so, what should i do?
[11:49] <Fezzler> ND: X?
[11:49] <remu> hey everybody
[11:49] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, tell about badlocks, does it have official website ??
[11:49] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: and you can actually install it to become part of your system help which is nice. No Rute is a book. Free pdf, but also a website
[11:49] <mc44> CerebroJD: right, you have followed all those steps?
[11:50] <Fezzler> Okay, I'll Google RUTE
[11:50] <CerebroJD> well, I skipped the bit about 'make'-ing ndiswrapper
[11:50] <neildarlow> Fezzler: your GNOME session
[11:50] <ThinkBox> -5h466y: it reads and writes from every block of the drive to see if the data is being corrupted. if it is, the drive is simply bad.
[11:50] <Ahmuck> if i download fiesty to a partition on my hard drive - which has not os installation currently, can i boot from the live cd, mount the iso on the hard drive and continue booting live from the iso stored on the hard drive ?
[11:50] <Fezzler> ND: Thanks.  Sorry.  Newbie
[11:50] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: i reccomend the pdf since you can search it more easily, and xpdf to view it in (cos it's fast)
[11:50] <CerebroJD> sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -i <path>
[11:50] <Ahmuck> freeing up my cdrom drive when boot is complete ?
[11:50] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: I would have to say, there are RARE cases where it's the drive controller built onto your motherboard
[11:51] <mc44> CerebroJD: try sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a
[11:51] <neildarlow> mrigns: do you have a bittorrent process running i.e. are you still sharing?
[11:51] <`davo> so my laptop has a SD Card reader, anyone know if ubuntu has drivers for this?
[11:51] <Nando1234> hello people
[11:52] <mrigns> neildarlow: as i said not that i know. i actually searched all processes with ps aux but saw none
[11:52] <CerebroJD> omeir, best to not PM me
[11:52] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, i will reinstall my entire system and if after that stills slow ill guess i will have to buy a new hdd ...
[11:52] <neildarlow> `davo: hotplug should detect a card inserted and auto-mount it
[11:52] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: a few things I would do in this order: run seagate drive tools. you can download the bootable ISO from their website, do a full drive test with it, it will do the same as badblocks, but it's much easier.
[11:52] <mrigns> neildarlow: the ports are all closed too
[11:52] <CerebroJD> mc44, I may know what I borked
[11:52] <Nando1234> quick help: how do i tell kubunto to start with gdm instead of kdm?
[11:53] <harpi> what dos this mean     config.status: WARNING:  po/Makefile.in.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
[11:53] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: swithc drive controllers, and see if it speeds up
[11:53] <diegoquinteiro> hi all
[11:53] <neildarlow> mrigns: then i'd say it's bogus.
[11:53] <mc44> CerebroJD: why do you think it is borked?
[11:53] <omeir> wifi in ubuntu
[11:53] <Snowman> ok, that's much better.  I don't mind the battery-saving from the cpu scaling, but it was getting annoying having the mouse freeze every so often when the cpu freq changed.
[11:53] <omeir> please help
[11:53] <CerebroJD> since I was using ndiswrapper-1.9, was I supposed to do this:  sudo ndiswrapper -m
[11:53] <CerebroJD> ?
[11:53] <jrib> !hostname > bluefox83 (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:53] <omeir> i really want to rid of the cable...
[11:53] <CerebroJD> or this:
[11:53] <Snowman> well, I'm off folks.  have some fixing up to do around the house.
[11:53] <omeir> please...
[11:53] <remu> I actually have a question, i just installed ubuntu today, and i followed this guide online to get my broadcom 4311 to work, and it was working beautifully untill something happened, i dont know what that something is, but now, using wifi-radar, i can't get an ip address for my computer, the only thing i can imagine that might have made an impact is that i accidentally removed the little networking thing near the clock u
[11:53] <CerebroJD> sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -m
[11:53] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: replace the drive physically. Your current dirve, being 6 months old is most likely under warranty(what brand is it)?
[11:53] <diegoquinteiro> does someone knows an database design tool for ubuntu?
[11:53] <Nando1234> quick help: how do i tell kubunto to start with gdm instead of kdm? anyone?
[11:53] <mc44> CerebroJD: if you just run ndiswrapper does it still error?
[11:53] <Fezzler> ND: just dropped to command line with crtl+alt-F1
[11:54] <remu> also, i was wondering, whats the big difference between the x86 version of ubuntu vs the 64 bit, is it worth getting the 64bit?
[11:54] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, it is hitachi ..
[11:54] <Fezzler> ND: You didn't tell me I needed ctrl+alt+F6 to get back to gnome :)
[11:54] <omeir> please HELP
[11:54] <neildarlow> Fezzler: good. logout and Alt-F7 to get back to GNOME
[11:54] <CerebroJD> mc44, no
[11:54] <omeir> need to configure wifi....
[11:54] <Fezzler> Key detail :
[11:54] <diegoquinteiro> Nando1234: take a look at /etc/rc.d files
[11:54] <CerebroJD> it lists the commands available for it
[11:54] <fbarcenas> Is there a second life client for ubuntu?
[11:54] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: i did ;) ^^
[11:54] <jrib> !wifi > omeir (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:54] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: OEM or retail?
[11:54] <Pelo> remu,  64 doesn'T have flash and a few other tid bits
[11:54] <CerebroJD> er.... switches
[11:54] <jrib> fbarcenas: yes, there is a native linux client
[11:54] <mc44> CerebroJD: then it should have worked. Just try rebooting see what happens
[11:54] <Fezzler> sorry
[11:54] <Coutouto> does anyone knows a little bit how (and what to) use to sync my mobile and my computer using bluetooth ?
[11:54] <Fezzler> newbie
[11:55] <remu> so im better off staying with 32bit i take it
[11:55] <CerebroJD> is there a terminal command to reboot?  the Exit bit only seems to want to hibernate, logoff etc.
[11:55] <mrigns> neildarlow: and /usr/bin/lsof -i | grep LISTEN does not show anything at all. i think firestarter is broken :(
[11:55] <CerebroJD> but now shutdown or reboot
[11:55] <Dave_is_sex1> fezzler: me too. someone did it to me last week. lol
[11:55] <harpi> no one here who knows? i asked the same question yesterday?
[11:55] <Fezzler> I'm old, I can't remember command to check my video care
[11:55] <CerebroJD> (damn linux and its stability)
[11:55] <fbarcenas> sorry I dropped.... Is there a second life client for Ubuntu?
[11:55] <jrib> harpi: repeat it instead of saying that
[11:55] <neildarlow> Coutouto: Evolution does it, i believe
[11:55] <harpi> config.status: WARNING:  po/Makefile.in.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
[11:55] <jrib> fbarcenas: yes, there is a native linux client
[11:55] <mc44> CerebroJD: sudo reboot
[11:55] <fbarcenas> jrib, cool, how do I get it?
[11:55] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, retail
[11:56] <Milos_SD> Q: How can I start a K3B setup ? I don't have it in Settings menu in K3B . :S
[11:56] <fbarcenas> jrib, is it the alpha client?
[11:56] <jrib> fbarcenas: it's on the second life website.  Just grab the tar.gz, extract it, and run the binary
[11:56] <remu> since some more people joined this room, i'm going to ask this question again, sorry if im repeating myself
[11:56] <CerebroJD> haha @ angry beep!
[11:56] <mc44> CerebroJD: no shutdown because we started x in a crazy way, should be fine normally
[11:56] <remu> i just installed ubuntu today, and i followed this guide online to get my broadcom 4311 to work, and it was working beautifully untill something happened, i dont know what that something is, but now, using wifi-radar, i can't get an ip address for my computer, the only thing i can imagine that might have made an impact is that i accidentally removed the little networking thing near the clock uptop, and i don't have "netw
[11:56] <jb> i have a rt2500 and it isnt showing up in my network listing
[11:56] <jrib> fbarcenas: maybe (I don't know)
[11:56] <neildarlow> mrigns: it might just be showing connect attempts or portscans
[11:56] <jb> how do i get it to show up
[11:56] <shawn34> best python IDE with gui bulder?
[11:56] <remu> oh, and i used ndiswrapper, and i used this walkthrough http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[11:56] <Pelo> Coutouto, I hope this helps  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=bluetooth&titlesearch=Titres
[11:56] <jrib> shawn34: vim and glade imo
[11:56] <neildarlow> jb: is it a rt2570 device?
[11:56] <HymnToLife> remu, using DHCP ?
[11:56] <harpi> jrib: config.status: WARNING:  po/Makefile.in.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting what dos it mean? there is no info on google
[11:57] <Dave_is_sex1> hey is there an irc program where i can go jrib/ and see all jrib's posts (for example), and /jrib, so see all posts to him, and /jrib/ to see all corespondance. etc. That would be nice
[11:57] <remu> yes i am
[11:57] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: you likely have a 3 year hardware warranty through hitachi for it. if not 1 year, but you're at 6 months right?
[11:57] <jrib> harpi: some context?
[11:57] <jb> it said rt 3500
[11:57] <remu> HymnToLife: yes im trying to use DHCP
[11:57] <HymnToLife> remu, what happens if you run dhclient from the comand-line instead of using the GUI-thingie ?
[11:57] <amicrawler> how do i move the berly window around i forgot
[11:57] <jrib> Dave_is_sex1: well in irssi you can do   /lastlog jrib   .  Probably works in other clients too
[11:57] <usser> shawn34: i'd say eric
[11:57] <mrigns> neildarlow: but they are listed as active connections for at least well, few hours, and neither netstat -tunap nor netstat -pn -l -A inet is showing something suspicious
[11:57] <jb> and it worked under the live cd
[11:57] <harpi> i get it when i do ./configure........always
[11:57] <Dave_is_sex1> amicrawler: alt + arrows
[11:57] <Dave_is_sex1> hmm
[11:58] <shawn34> usser, what about SPE ?
[11:58] <Dave_is_sex1> /lastlog jrib
[11:58] <neildarlow> jb: which rt-type modules are loaded?
[11:58] <mrigns> neildarlow: so i think it's really firestarter which is fubar
[11:58] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, yes ... i guess i have to exchange my drive
[11:58] <neildarlow> mrigns: could be
[11:58] <jb> how do i check that
[11:58] <jrib> Dave_is_sex1: ok, maybe not gaim... try xchat :)
[11:58] <remu> remu@umer-laptop:~$ dhclient
[11:58] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/menuitem.4e6284c20a3050a7760062f6aac4f0a0/
[11:58] <remu> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:58] <remu> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:58] <remu> All rights reserved.
[11:58] <remu> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:58] <remu> can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied
[11:58] <remu> Can't create /var/run/dhclient.pid: Permission denied
[11:58] <shawn34> Eric or SPE ?
[11:58] <neildarlow> jb: lsmod |grep rt
[11:58] <remu> drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted
[11:58] <remu> when i do dhcpclient
[11:58] <Milos_SD> Q: How can I start a K3B setup ? I don't have it in Settings menu in K3B.
[11:58] <jrib> !paste > remu (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:58] <Nando1234> there is no /etc/rc.d
[11:58] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, but before anything i will check it with badlocks
[11:58] <Dave_is_sex1> jrib: lol. it did something. i got an im saying: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to Dave_is_sex1) from jrib
[11:58] <HymnToLife> remu, you need to run it like this :            sudo dhclient eth1
[11:58] <harpi> jrib: i get it when i do ./configure........always
[11:58] <jrib> harpi: what are you compiling?
[11:58] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: good call.
[11:59] <Fezzler> ND: Can I start Terminal in window and you can walk me through xorg to see if video wait state is set right?
[11:59] <HymnToLife> (of course replace eth1 with your interface)
[11:59] <CerebroJD> mc44, I believe its workin!
[11:59] <amicrawler> i mean the cube
[11:59] <jrib> Dave_is_sex1: yeah, that was me to figure out what client you had
[11:59] <harpi> libextractor
[11:59] <mc44> CerebroJD: \o/
[11:59] <Dave_is_sex1> jrib. oh. lol
[11:59] <CerebroJD> sees the network
[11:59] <doxid> hi, i just installed wine and i'm trying to run world of warcraft just to prove to my friends it's possible in linux. but when i start wow i get huge delay/lagg. and if i try to run in OpenGL mode it says "unable to start up 3D acceleration."  any idea why wine can't start 3D accelleration?
[11:59] <garuda> hi all, do you know GETLEFT? or other web site copier?
[11:59] <CerebroJD> entered password
[11:59] <jb> it says parport_pc
[11:59] <Dave_is_sex1> jrib: how do i do that?
[11:59] <Petar> hi
[11:59] <jb> parport agpart
[11:59] <jrib> Dave_is_sex1: I don't know how to do it on gaim
[12:00] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, thx for all that info ... really aprecciate it xD
[12:00] <Dave_is_sex1> hmm.
[12:00] <amicrawler> i mean the cube  in beryl
[12:00] <ThinkBox> doxid: make sure you have 3d acceleration drivers installed for your card, and there are some settings that must go into your config.wtf in wow.
[12:00] <_5h466y> ThinkBox, i have to go to do some workout ... thx a lot dude
[12:00] <amicrawler> i for got how to move it
[12:00] <ThinkBox> _5h466y: no problem :)
[12:00] <jrib> Dave_is_sex1: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <deCon> can anyone help me fix an audio problem involving sharing of audiocard? my applications aren't doing it so well
[12:00] <Petar> hi, is there someone who know a lot about beryl using with ati-cards?
[12:00] <jrib> Petar: #ubuntu-effects for help with beryl
[12:01] <Coutouto> neildarlow: Evolution ? I can't figure how if it does.
[12:01] <doxid> ThinkBox, i got the Fglx dirver to ATi and i do not know how to activate Acceleration or if that driver even supports it.