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hdxxscrubb: if you don't have a lot of datas on hard disk, just format, and i will tell you how to install drivers12:14
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scrubbhdxx, I just installed fiesty this morning...I'd rather not do it all over again...12:15
lobsteranyone familiar with system settings module in Kubuntu?12:15
mehmetlobster:  can i enable Desktop-Effects on kubuntu as like ubuntu?12:15
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lobstermehmet: IDK, never ran ubuntu...12:16
hdxxscrubb: hm i don't know then,, sorry12:16
mehmetlobster:  IDK ???12:16
scrubbhdxx, which line in xorg.conf are you interested in?12:17
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lobstermehmet: I run it by typing this on the run line: beryl-manager12:17
mehmetlobster: how can enable complix on kubuntu?12:17
hdxxscrubb: look in device "driver"12:17
ejupinanyone have an idea how I can get my usb microphone to work?12:17
harzihm, i canot sudo adept_installer. it simply starts nothing12:17
makuseruhow can i extract a password protected rar (i have the pass) in a terminal?12:17
mehmetlobster:  ok it started12:17
luapvscrubb: did you try lynx? its a text based browser12:17
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scrubbhdxx, driver says "nv"12:18
hdxxharzi: ps aux .. maybe already running12:18
hdxxscrubb: change to nvidia12:18
mehmetlobster:  when i choose beryl desktop manager, it is not make anything :(12:18
hdxxand then try12:18
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scrubbok12:18
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lobstermehmet: I keep that on my desktop, so i can start it whenever I please...12:18
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harziadept_notifier runs12:18
scrubbhdxx, does it matter that Identifier says "Generic Video Card"?12:18
harzibut not the installer...12:19
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TeleSkierlobster: I need to transfer some packages on a computer with a freshly installed kubuntu Feisty which has not (not yet) an internet connection. I think I could use a USB memory for that. Now, where are all the  .deb packages stored in my computer (if they are kept after installation) ?12:19
hdxxharzi: sudo kill -9 ID and run again12:19
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hdxxscrubb: no just change driver to "nvidia"12:19
harzihmpf, i think i am going to reinstall *without* a root-account, i dont really need it12:19
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lobstermehmet: update me when you can12:19
mehmetlobster:  i think beryl will not working my pc :(12:19
mehmetlobster:  how can i update?12:20
scrubbhdxx, I'ma be a noob again...what's the best way to do that from command line?12:20
lobsterTeleSkier: gimme a sec12:20
TeleSkierok lobster12:20
lobstermehmet: what happened?12:20
hdxxscrubb: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. find "device" and then find "driver" and replace "nv" witz "nvidia" .. then CTRL +X .. then Y .. then ENTER12:21
mehmetlobster please remote my pc12:21
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scrubbk12:21
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marccollinhi12:21
marccollinthere is not graphic installer for kubuntu?12:21
mehmetlobster:  88.234.43.5512:22
hdxxmarccollin: sure it is.. download deskop version12:22
lobstermehmet: gimme a second12:22
mehmetlobster:  ok12:22
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scrubbhdxx, Ok.  made the change.  Now what?  startx?12:23
hdxxyes12:23
scrubbhdxx, "Fatal server error...no screens found... X10   fatal IO error 104..."12:24
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[tan0S] hello, pleas helpme, i need a 2cpu machine, and i need to install the kernel image...12:24
[tan0S] i dont what to do...12:24
marccollindon't have graphic install....... only install in text mode, text mode install for manufacturers......12:25
Daisuke_Idomarccollin: then you downloaded the wrong cd12:25
Daisuke_Idodownload desktop, not alternate12:25
hdxxscrubb: don't know then :S try to reboot and then startx12:25
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[tan0S] sorry, i have a 2cpu machine and i need to install the kernel image to manage both cpus, any want to helpme?12:25
Daisuke_Idoum12:26
Daisuke_Idolike a dual core?12:26
[tan0S] nop12:26
[tan0S] 2 pIII in a dell machine12:26
Daisuke_Idomeh, it should work the same either way.  the default kernel should see both processors12:26
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marccollinok thanks12:27
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[tan0S] mmm ./top dont show me de both proc12:27
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lobsterTeleSkier: ok look here: http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/03/simple-way-to-update-ubuntu-edgy-with-slowno-internet-connection/12:27
scrubbhdxx, I wonder if X is partially running already?  How would I check for and kill it?12:27
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[tang0S] how can i check that both process are running?12:28
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hdxxscrubb: just reboot and try to login in kde12:28
TeleSkierlobster:  many thanks!12:28
lobsterteleSkier: it says that they should be saved here: /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/12:28
marccollindoes we can install 32 bits program under the 64 bits release easily?12:28
[tang0S] im in kubuntu12:28
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Drew3Hi Folks.12:29
Daisuke_Idocat /proc/cpuinfo12:29
Daisuke_Idoprocessor 0 and processor 1, should be12:30
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[tang0S] cool!!!12:30
[tang0S] im a f** noob12:30
lobstermehmet: ok where were we?12:30
mehmetlobster: ok12:31
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Daisuke_Ido[tang0S] : don't feel bad, i've been using this full time for about 6 months and don't know a whole lot yet :D12:31
eljak[tang0S] : in the docs they tell you what to do in case you have multiple processors so you either have to chose a kernel that supports smp or compile one12:31
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mehmetlobster: where are you?12:32
Drew3I have had a KDE set-up for my 85 year old Mom for about 2 (? 5.04 ) , I want to update things  bit.  I made icons and text to huge sizes.  Question;  will these settings  transfer to 6.10?12:32
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lobstermehmet: what is your ip?12:32
mehmetlobster:  88.234.43.5512:32
Daisuke_IdoDrew3: probably not, as you'll have to go from 5.04 to 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.1012:33
[tang0S] Daisuke_Ido> i read the docs, but i dont know how compile a kernel image or how to download... the default repository of apt dont have a smp image12:33
Daisuke_Idofour upgrades without something going wrong is not probably with the old versions12:33
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[tang0S] muchas gracias a todos!!! thanks!!!12:34
Daisuke_Ido[tang0S] : because the newer versions of (ku/u)buntu have replaced -386 and -686 with -generic12:34
Daisuke_Idowhich i believe installs what the machine needs12:35
mehmetlobster: ??12:35
Drew3Daisuke_Ido:  Thank you,    I have an hour or two to make the change then I Live two hours away.     I think I will leave it alone.12:35
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Cnl_DeltaDrew3: ya could get an extra HDD and mirror 5.10, upgrade the new HDD and see how it goes12:37
makuseru!GTK2 Development package12:39
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makuseru!GTK212:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
makuseru!GTK2 Development12:40
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Drew3Ya, but, not enough time.  Anyone know if Xbunbtu Icon's and text can be made larger?   KDE is a a tiny bit slow on this old P3 of hers.12:41
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biovoreapt-get install xorg-dev libgtk2.0-dev12:42
scrubbhdxx, I figured it out.12:42
hdxxscrubb: nice :)12:42
scrubbhdxx, somehow xorg.conf had the wrong PCI BusID set for "device"12:43
jrickis anyone else having problems that they can't use Digg with Konqueror, so nothing can be digged?12:43
jrickeverytime I click on digg, nothing happens12:43
scrubbthe error when I typed startx told me which busID it was looking on, so I put that in xorg.conf and it worked.12:43
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hdxxnice to hear thet:912:44
hdxxthat12:44
scrubbNow I just need to figure how to access the driver's configuration (is there a GUI?) and get my second monitor working...12:45
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harziyepp, that gui i will need too12:45
lobsteranyone familiar with the display module of systemsettings12:46
lexi__hallo12:46
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scrubbwoops...12:46
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hydraulxjoin irc://irc.rizon.net/4chan12:49
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phpcodeis it possible to reset kubuntu to where i installed it, without reinstalling kubuntu??12:54
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Yorokobi phpcode reset what exactly?12:57
malik__hi ther.......how do i run photoshop in linux?12:57
LjL!virtualizers12:57
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications12:57
LjL!equivalents12:57
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant12:57
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phpcodeYorokobi: all settings and changes that i have done.12:58
Yorokobiphpcode, to KDE or something else?12:58
malik__i am trying to use Krita gimp and digikam but they are annoying the living day lights out of me12:59
LjLphpcode: no. the changes that you made as a normal user are easily undone by... creating another user. the changes you made as root cannot be easily undone.12:59
malik__i have to do one task in one n sec in other12:59
LjLmalik__: then run it under wine12:59
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malik__some have some features and some have none....so i was wondering if photoshop can be run on linux as some ppl say its a good photo editing software01:00
LjLyes, it can, under wine, otherwise i wouldn't have pointed to it.01:00
stdinunder wine, maybe. nativity, no01:00
LjL!wine01:00
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:00
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malik__LjL: so i install Wine first and then it will install photoshop natively on that?01:01
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LjLmalik__: i'm not sure what you mean with the "it will install photoshop natively" part.01:01
stdinmalik__: you install wine, then download photoshop and install it _with_ wine01:02
stdinmalik__: then you can run it _under_ wine01:02
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malik__oki but i will abe to install by double clickin the exe file?01:03
LjLmalik__: you could also check out Pixel32. it's a commercial application (with a demo version i think), but it's available for Linux natively, and it basically tries to emulate PS as much as possible.01:03
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LjLmalik__, well, i suggest you read the link.01:03
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stdinmalik__: only if you associate .exe files with wine01:03
phpcodeYorokobi: i want to "go back in time" when i hadn't changed settings or installed programs on kubuntu.01:03
malik__pixel32 is a photo edinting software?01:04
Yorokobiphpcode, that's sufficiently vague ...01:04
evlol01:04
LjLno, it's a car racing simulator.01:04
malik__but i dont need car racing simulater01:04
LjLmalik__: what did i say?01:05
LjL[01:03:18]  <LjL> malik__: you could also check out Pixel32. it's a commercial application (with a demo version i think), but it's available for Linux natively, and it basically tries to emulate PS as much as possible.01:05
LjLtry reading,.01:05
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harzii think there is also a gimp-mod that it is usable like photoshop01:05
thingy!gimpshop01:06
ubotugimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=29401:06
harziah gimpshop01:06
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aldinhi, anyne knows how to install some addon of firefox2 so it doesnt get deleted after rm -rf .mozilla folder?01:09
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redfiveanyone good with grub?01:13
scrubbredfive, what do you want to do?01:14
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redfivewell01:15
redfivei have kubuntu on a SATA drive01:15
redfivei have a nother OS on the firct IDE chanel master, how do i ad it to grub?01:15
biovoreredfive: you might have this weird problem with the bios having different drive ID's then what linux shows..  Make grub setup very confusing.01:16
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biovoreredfive: other OS..  you mean windows?01:16
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redfiveum, different OS01:16
biovorewhat OS?01:16
redfiveOSX01:16
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biovoreI think you can just chainload OSx01:16
biovorefrom grub01:17
redfivehow?01:17
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biovoreits the same as booting windows01:17
redfivei have grub setup to boot to vista bootloader already01:17
redfivei just dont know the syntax01:17
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biovorewell I don't have any dual boxes here atm..01:17
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redfiveubuntu in grub says (hd0,1)01:18
redfivewhat would the first IDE be to grub?01:18
stdinlook in /boot/grub/device.map01:19
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thingyredfive: what disk is set up as the boot drive in the bios, where is grub installed?01:19
biovorewell if you look at the grub config for windows.. just copy it and change the drive/partion its using.01:19
comodocan someone help me with a beryl problem ive been having01:20
redfivegrub in on its one partition /boot on the fron of the first SATA01:20
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redfiveso i add a mapping in device.map?01:21
redfivewhats the first IDE drive? /dev/hda?01:21
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scrubbredfive, grub should already have mapped all your hard drives at installation01:21
scrubbHow many disks do you have?01:21
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redfivethis OS was installed after grub01:22
scrubbah ha01:22
redfivei have 4 SATAs, and 1 IDE01:22
scrubbstill, how many disks do you have?01:22
scrubband OSX is on the one IDE?01:22
redfiveyes01:22
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redfiveIDE had to be master on the first IDE chanel01:23
scrubbright01:23
redfivedo I add the device to drvice.map?01:23
redfiveor can i get grub to do it01:23
scrubbIn /boot/grub/device.map add a new line (hdx),    /dev/hda01:23
redfivegot it01:23
scrubbx is incremented from whatever's the last one in there.01:24
scrubbso if you have hd0 and hd1, this line is hd201:24
redfivegot it01:24
redfiveright01:24
redfivethe i add entry in menu.lst?01:24
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comodocan someone tell me the commmand to check for direct rendering01:24
scrubbyeah01:25
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mc__comodo:  glxinfo | grep rendering01:25
redfivewould it be (hd3,0) ?01:25
scrubbthe number after the comma is the partition01:25
redfiveok01:25
scrubbso if it's the first partition, yes.01:25
redfivethe only partition01:25
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redfiveok01:25
mc__mc__: if it says Direct Rendering:Yes,it works01:25
redfivewhat about the chainloader line?01:25
redfiveit says +1 like the vista entry01:26
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comodowell when i try to run compiz or beryl my bar on top of windows that shows the minimize maxamize and close buttons gos away01:26
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cables!effects | comodo01:27
ubotucomodo: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.01:27
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redfiveum, do i do something to re-initlize grub with the settings?01:27
scrubbredfive, here's the GRUB website: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/01:27
scrubbI didn't have to do much editing of my grub configurations, so I haven't learned everything yet.01:28
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Cnl_Deltadealing with grub is childs play compared to partition tables01:30
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lobsterI'm here to help...01:30
meuhlolHello all! If there are someone who can help me with VirtualBox please?01:30
lobsterbut not that.01:30
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scrubbI just haven't had to really dig into it.01:30
Cnl_Deltai heard its best not to install xp after ubuntu01:31
Cnl_Deltawith the right guide, its a 3 min job01:31
harziok, now i am *without* root account and can access de adept-things... something seams not to work with kubuntu when selecting the root account in the expert-installer01:31
meuhlolCnl_Delta: if it for VB it's right01:31
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meuhlolharzi, sudo su01:32
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Cnl_Deltaeugh i just had to re-install everything after a NTFS resize and move busted kubuntu and xp, not interested in vm ware fora  while01:32
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meuhlolCnl_Delta: i'm at kubuntu feisty fawn (7.04), i run VirtualBox, and installed WinXP Home sp1 into, works great :) just i dunno how import my files from kubuntu to win emulated xD01:33
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meuhlolCnl_Delta: VirtualBox != Vmware Player ;) And for ntfs resizing you have ntfsresize tool for nux :)01:33
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Cnl_Deltakubuntu to win on hdd is easy..01:34
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thingymeuhlol: vbox has shared folders...01:34
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Cnl_Deltai used gparted01:34
meuhlolthingy: where?01:34
meuhlolwhere is for linux?01:34
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lunar-raven!compiz01:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:34
thingymeuhlol: in essense it has a mini samba server running and you can map linux dirs as drives in windows01:34
Cnl_Deltawhich crippled the partition tables01:34
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meuhlolCnl_Delta: try to use ntfsresize (just google it)01:35
Cnl_Deltawell meuhlol. the partitions are more or less gone now01:36
thingymeuhlol: http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=103   search for words "Shared Host drives"01:36
Cnl_Deltaits a whole new kubuntu on my hdd01:36
meuhlolCnl_Delta: gone? oO what soft you used for?01:37
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Cnl_Deltagparted01:37
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meuhlolCnl_Delta, I make those steps: 1) Low level format 2) Installing Edgy Eft (6.10) 3) Update failed 4) DL Feisty Fawn 5) Install Feisty on Edgy Eft 6) All works great01:38
Cnl_Deltai could use  grub, and see the splash screen of xp and kubuntu but no login01:39
biovoreno login ?01:40
meuhlolsudo su for root01:40
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Cnl_Deltaweird, grub worked fine, xp and kubunu loads up but screen blanks out where i'm supposed to log in01:43
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harzifor nvidia-3d-acceleration: i have to download the one from nvidia's webpage, right? nvidia-glx package seam not to work for me...01:46
stdinharzi: how about nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy ?01:46
harzihm...01:46
lobsterharzi: just use the nvidia driver, unless you have issue with closed source software, it works great.01:47
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lobsterthe website one worked great for me01:47
stdinuntil you update your kernel anyway01:48
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Cnl_Deltaq: what should one do if their nvidia card stops working and they need to go to their onbard. how do they use shell to enable vesa drivers instead of nvidias?01:48
lobsterall: glad to help you while I am waiting on my question01:48
stdinthen you'll have to reinstall from the command line01:48
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harzihm, i get dependency problems while installing the ubuntu--nvidia-glx-legacy01:48
stdinCnl_Delta: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:49
Cnl_Deltahmm01:49
Cnl_Deltatoo bad x just doesn't default to vesa01:49
stdinharzi: what dependency problems ?01:49
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lobsterstdin: yeah, but it's only one command and you are done.  in fact you could whip up a script to auto run it un kernel upgrade and drop it your boot01:49
lobsterup01:49
stdinlobster: or just use the packaged versions, which are just the ones from the website in a .deb. and not all users want to have to do that01:50
harzistdin: hm, in adept i don't see details01:50
stdinharzi: open up konsole and do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"01:51
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stdinintelikey: UN-root huh? :P01:51
intelikey#debian wont allow root01:51
intelikey;/01:52
lobsterstdin: true enough, but there have been issues with those as well.  what is glx-new?01:52
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harzistdin: i think it was nvidia-xconfig, i removed it and now i could install nvidia-glx-new01:52
Prisoner_hello01:52
harzilet see if it works01:52
intelikey[17180021.332000]  PPP: VJ uncompressed error01:52
intelikey[17180021.500000]  PPP: VJ uncompressed error01:52
stdinlobster: glx-new is for newer cards, -glx is for slightly older, and -glx-legacy is for old cards01:52
intelikey?01:52
lobsterstdin: when was that started?01:53
stdinharzi: yeah, nvidia-xconfig is built in now01:53
stdinlobster: from the feisty release (afaik)#01:53
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Prisoner_my Nvideo GeForce is a little over 2 years old01:53
intelikeyok howto translate the output of "showkeys"  ?>01:54
harzistdin: a nvidia6200 is therefore??? old??? glx-new seams not to work for me01:54
stdinharzi: it's from the point-of-view of nvidia, not the ubuntu devs01:55
stdinthey make the drivers01:55
Yorokobiharzi, the -new drivers work for my 620001:55
Filthpigharzi: you have to restart X for changes to take effect01:56
lobsterstdin: dig it.  have they figured out how to save the settings from Nvidia x server settings?01:56
harzii restarted kdm from console 101:56
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killermach_ok.. I found my missing choices on KDE logout.. this happens when you use gdm, switched to kdm and it works great now :)01:57
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stdinlobster: don't know, I don't use nvidia hardware :p01:57
lobsterstdin: intel?01:58
thingylobster: nvidia provide a command line utility for modifying the xorg.conf file...it can also do the reverse which is to query the file and dump the nvidia settings...what are you trying to figure out/do?01:58
Prisoner_I have a GeForce FX5500 128mb RAM.01:58
stdinlobster: yeah, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)01:58
Prisoner_I installed Feisty Fawn and haven't upgraded the driver, wonder if I should01:58
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harziYorokobi: do you have framebuffer enabled?01:59
Yorokobiprobably02:00
lobsterstdin: 945? hdcp?02:00
harzihehe, i have... i try to disable now02:00
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stdinlobster: no, not on this one02:01
stdinlobster: don't think so anyway02:01
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see-gis there anyone around who could tell me how to delay the execution of a command by ... let's say an hour?02:10
Yorokobisee-g, 'sleep 1h; command'02:10
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lobstersee-g or 'sleep 1h; command &'02:11
lobsterif in console02:11
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see-gconsole is fine with me02:11
stdinor with the run command dialog too02:11
stdinor even in a .desktop file02:12
see-gthanks (argh, now I've got to decide ... someone else gave me the hint "at (now+1h) (command)"02:12
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derekSi just did a freshinstall of kubuntu and xine is playing movies funny, all have weird shades of green and purple shadows02:13
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derekShttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410654 <--- kinda like that02:13
derekSany suggestions02:13
stdinsee-g: yeah, you can do "at now + 1 hour command"02:14
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stdinsee-g: but that's more cron-like, ie you see no output, it's run in a new shell02:15
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see-gstdin: thanks ... but sleep 75m && killall amarokapp is running now, that'll bring me through the night02:16
see-g(well ... combining listening to music with a huge download (30+GB) is no good when you're about to go to bed02:17
stdinsee-g: well, I would have done "sleep 75m && dcop amarok player stop" but that's just me :)02:18
lobstersee-g: smart!  did you also do a sleep 9h && amarokapp start?02:19
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stdinthere is actually an app to do thatr02:19
stdin*that02:19
stdinkalarm02:19
aldinhow to set up pppoe server?02:19
see-globster: nope, I don't know when I'll get up and when I do I'll probably have to hurry up02:19
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lobsterok bye all02:21
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stdinlater lobster02:22
stdinooh, that kinda rhymes :)02:22
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lobsterdoh! almost forgot, anyone know how to force a refresh rate in xorg?02:24
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thoreauputiclobster:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and enter your vert and horiz rates ( leave the other settings at defaults, usually)02:26
thingydefine a modeline and use the modeline in the Display subsection02:26
lobsterthat just puts me at default, I want to force it to run at 85Hz02:26
thoreauputiclobster: you answer the advanced questions and set your rate there02:27
lobsterthingy: I was hoping to avoid having only one modeline02:27
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mantis#ubuntu-it-chat02:28
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thingylobster: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/X11R6.9.0/doc/html/gtf.1.html  you dont have to have just the one...specify your desired regresh rates/ horiz/vert dimensions in gtf and let it create the lines for you02:28
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derekSno one knows why my kaffeine videos are coming in all greenish and shadowy after a fresh install of kubuntu?02:31
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HymnToLifederekS, all of them ?02:32
derekSHymnToLife: yeah02:32
derekSones that worked fine before02:32
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HymnToLifehave you tried other players ?02:32
derekSHymnToLife: i don't have any others installed02:33
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DruntarHello folks02:35
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Druntarok can anyone help me with a mouse issue02:37
Druntarit cuts out sporadically02:37
Druntarhello?02:37
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Druntarcan anyone please help me with my mouse?02:38
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premier_hello, I've been using kubuntu for since about november, and just recently my computer started to seem very laggy and slow... not sure how to diagnose it, but most of the time processor is at less that 10%, except when I'm opening programs or putting load02:39
Druntargood luck premier no one has answered me yet and I've been here about 5 mins02:40
premier_Druntar: whats you're problem?  Maybe I can help, or direct you better02:40
premier_btw, !ask02:40
premier_!ask02:40
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:40
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Druntarok02:44
DruntarMy mouse keeps cutting out does anyone have any clue as to why?02:44
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Druntarok going to reboot. and get mouse back temorarily02:46
thoreauputicDruntar: our crystal balls are a little bit cloudy .... I think you need to supply more information about what is actually happening , preferably with some error messages02:46
Druntardon't have any02:46
underdog5004I've got the same problem, except it only happens when the screensaver comes up...02:46
DruntarI boot up mouse works fine02:47
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premier_yeah, Druntar, could you give any details about you mouse?  What kind of mouse is it?02:47
DruntarI work for anywhere between 2 and 20 mins and it stops moving02:47
Druntarlogitech g5 laser02:47
premier_usb?02:47
Druntaryesh02:47
Druntaryes*02:47
premier_you may have a defective usb bus02:47
premier_what kind of computer is it?02:47
Druntarcustom build less then 3 months old02:48
premier_next time it happens, try unplugging it and pluging it back it02:48
Druntarlol it's like that right now I'll give that a shot02:48
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Druntarok all the lights in the mouse went off but other then that nadda02:49
kane_Is there any reason a DVD wouldnt be mountable under Kubuntu but is under windows?02:49
_redondoshi02:49
Druntarok opened konsole and typed dmesg02:49
Druntarlast three lines are usb 1-1: usb disconnect, address 202:50
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dsmith7950gt ok under kubuntu?02:50
Druntarohci_hcd 000:00:0b.0: IRQ intr_sf lossage02:50
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exconvictriddickhai hai02:51
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Druntarohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: lead ed dfc2c240 (#81) state 0 (has tds)02:51
premier_exconvictriddick: 02:52
_redondosI upgraded from dapper to edgy, and now during the boot, it says "mdadm: no devices in conf file were found"...02:52
biovoreMooo02:52
premier__redondos: does everything work correctly?02:52
Druntarthat's the only messages it's showing different from before unplug and replug02:52
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_redondosfirst02:52
noiesmokane_, what format is it.02:52
_redondospremier, how I send the messaage like you02:53
kane_noiesmo: i dont know, its a game dvd02:53
_redondosI mean, to colour my message to you02:53
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premier__redondos: you have to install scim, and i think skim, and also anthy, then you have to install a panel applet02:53
premier_oh I thought you meant japanese02:53
Druntarok so does anyone have any idea what's going on with my mouse?02:54
_redondos_redondos: you have to install scim, and i think skim, and also anthy, then you have to install a panel applet02:54
premier__redondos: all you have to do is type my name in the message02:54
premier_or whoever you're talking to02:54
biovorePremier:  <-- Japanese?02:54
_redondospremier_ like this ?02:54
premier_02:54
noiesmokane_, not sure02:54
premier_yeah02:54
_redondosok02:54
biovorehehe..02:54
_redondospremier_ now I'm going to look that02:54
_redondospremier_ the problem02:55
premier__redondos: some clients allow you to type part of the name and then press tab, and it will autocomplete02:55
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kane_yeah, ive never had an issue with old linux just not being able to mount something02:55
_redondospremier_: ahhh02:55
_redondospremier_: yes!02:55
_redondospremier_: now02:55
premier__redondos: you can look up a tutorial to install japanese support if you want02:55
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_redondospremier_: I don't know japanese02:55
premier_nevermind then02:56
MenaIs there a way to make simple animated picture with inkscape ?02:56
_redondospremier_: well02:56
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noiesmokane_, you could try mount it with sudo mount /dev/hdx /media/cdromx replace x to suite your setup02:56
_redondospremier_: the problem is that when I boot02:56
noiesmokane_, then its mounted by root least you'll se if it can be read02:57
premier__redondos: yes?02:57
_redondospremier_: it stays giving me errors02:57
kane_hrm, good idea02:57
_redondospremier_: strange errors02:57
noiesmokane_, but if its exe you will need to see if wine will run it02:57
_redondospremier_: of some devices02:57
premier_do you computer boot?  Like, are you able to get to the gui?02:57
_redondospremier_: yes ...02:57
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premier__redondos: half the battle02:57
kane_yeah, i've actually got it mounted in vmware right now.02:57
premier__redondos: does everything else work correctly?02:57
_redondospremier_: but it stays a lot of time02:57
_redondospremier_: yes ...02:57
premier__redondos: you mean it hangs?02:57
kane_i'll just yank what i need that way i think02:58
premier__redondos: could you give me some idea what the errors are?02:58
_redondospremier_: no .. now I will activate bootlog02:58
thingyDruntar:  see if specifying the "noapic irqpoll pci=routeirq" boot params fixes the issue... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279626&page=202:58
_redondospremier_: to copy the errors02:58
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tarelerulzI am updating to 7.04 from 6.10 and I put the repository for 7.04 in my source.list and I want to know what the name of the parent process that runng the upgrader is ?02:59
_redondospremier_: recently, I burned a cd and it was difficult for k3b to regonize de burner02:59
premier__redondos: you don't have to reproduce the errors verbatim... just give me some idea02:59
premier__redondos: hmmm... sometime, k3b won't burn unless you're in root... it because you do not have permissions for the burner (real annoying I know)02:59
_redondospremier_: no03:00
_redondospremier_: yes but sometimes it regonizes it and sometimes not. ..03:00
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_redondospremier_: so, can't be that03:00
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_redondospremier_: (sorry by my english)03:00
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jrickis there any easy way that I can install Pidgon (the new gaim)?  Only the source and fedora rpm's are available, but when I try to download the rpm to convert it with alien, it redirects me back to the front page.  I think it is sniffing and found that I am running kubuntu, not fedora.03:03
biovoreI would think someone would have built a deb package for it..03:04
_redondospremier_: I will see the bootlog03:04
biovorehave to do some googling for it..03:04
morlajrick: do you use Feisty?03:05
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jrickyeah03:05
jrickit's not in the repos.03:05
morlajrick: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Pidgin03:05
morlajrick: feisty packages03:06
underdog5004jrick, why not just use the source?03:06
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jricki don't like compiling source code03:06
tarelerulzSo what is the name of the updater in Kubuntu? so I can find it is ksystgard03:06
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jricki've had trouble making it appear on the menu03:06
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pacmananyone familiar with getting mplayer embedded into firefox?03:06
underdog5004tarelerulz, look for anything containing adept03:07
carloshola03:07
noiesmojrick, http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pidgin/pidgin-2.0.0-0.1.fc6.i386.rpm03:07
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thoreauputicpacman: install mozilla-mplayer03:07
premier_jrick: I just found a neat program call Kompile that will do compiling automatially... haven't used it much, you might just give it a shot03:07
thoreauputic!mozilla-mplayer03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-mplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
premier_its in the feisty repos03:08
thoreauputicbah03:08
jricksounds kool03:08
thoreauputicpacman: sorry weong package nams03:08
thoreauputic*name03:08
premier_jrick: install it, then right click on the .tar.gz and it should show up as a service menu03:08
thoreauputicpacman: actually I was right...03:09
jrickok, will try it, even though I just got the deb just to test it.03:09
thoreauputic!info mozilla-mplayer03:09
morlajrick: did you see the link to the feisty package I sent some lines above?03:09
ubotumozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31+main-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 477 kB, installed size 1636 kB03:09
jrickyeah03:09
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jricki got it, but I'm going to try kompile03:09
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morlajrick: better it is, I prefer to compile meself too :)03:10
tarelerulz<underdog5004>, I found something with adept in the name ,but it is said to be sleeping?03:11
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jrickdoes kompile just use the basic ./configure make make install basic commands?03:13
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jrickoh, just looked at the profiles03:14
jricklots of sources03:14
tarelerulzunderdog5004, does that mean the updater is not working? when it says sleeping03:14
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jrickguess that means my answer is no.03:15
underdog5004tarelerulz, I have no idea03:15
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Linux_Galorejrick: by default yes but you can set custom options03:16
jrickyeah, I'm experimenting with it right now03:17
tarelerulzI all so see python and uder it I see dpkg which is sleeping .03:17
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jricklooks really powerful03:17
Druntarok same problem as before. I'm using a logitech g5 and sporadically it cuts out and does nothing. I have no error messages. it just stops03:17
jrickI like KDE more and more every day :)03:17
ArwenI still use GNOME... it looks nicer with beryl running03:17
Linux_Galorejrick: I wish it would quiry the ./configure script before hand and offer a tick box layout ie enable/disable features03:18
jrickuhhhhh, no clue what you said.03:18
salvadorbba ola boa noite03:18
tarelerulzI love beryle myself. I think it looks great.03:18
jrickremember, I'm a deb guy03:18
jricknot a source guy03:18
salvadorbbahelp03:18
BluesKajWent back to edgy...it works better on my underpriveleged setup :)03:19
jrickhopefully kompile will make source code instalation a lot more easy.03:19
Linux_Galorejrick: if you run the ./configure script when building the source it will just use the defaults in many cases thus some things you may want wont be enabled in the final binary03:19
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Druntarok I'm using a logitech g5 mouse. it cuts out sporadically. The only way to get it working again is to reboot03:19
Druntarcan anyone help me?03:19
jrickoh yeah, I understand now03:19
Linux_Galorejrick: be nice of kompile showed the options before hand03:20
Druntarthis is only my 3rd day in linux03:20
Linux_Galores/of/if/03:20
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Arwenand some sources don't have a makefile or a configure script :-\03:20
Arwenthose ones are really nasty03:20
jricki got to go03:20
salvadorbba\ j #gura03:21
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Linux_GaloreArwen: as in from a cvs/or svn source, yeah easily fixed though03:21
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tarelerulzhave any of you upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 with Kubuntu and if so did you use adept or dpkg ?03:22
Linux_Galoretarelerulz: you dont need to use either03:22
crimsunerr, I'm sure you didn't mean dpkg, because every method uses dpkg.03:22
crimsunyou probably meant apt-get or aptitude03:22
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Linux_Galoretarelerulz: there is a built in update tool that you can use03:23
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underdog5004tarelerulz, or, from the command line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:23
underdog5004nice and easy03:23
fiznutAnyone use Kickoff for a menu?03:24
tarelerulzI know i don't need to use it ,but I did and I have dpkg and some sort of front end which is telling me how well my upgrade is doing ,bu tit has been on 18% for over 24 minutes03:24
salvadorbbahi help03:24
epimethtarelerulz: I hope you backed up before updating?03:24
salvadorbbahi03:24
epimethsalvadorbba: ahoy03:24
tarelerulzI can't do that . I don't have working cd rom drive .03:24
salvadorbbai need help03:25
salvadorbbayou can help me03:25
tarelerulzI have upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 before and it did something like this03:25
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tarelerulzIt seem to freeze . all I want is to know if it still work or not for sure. If  new a comand to see the process and tell me if it was running03:26
casev01hi03:26
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epimethsalvadorbba: don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask the question! :-)03:27
casev01how can i mount a nfts partition? i was trying in the system menu, but when i try to open the partition the system says i dont have enough permissions03:27
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tarelerulzI use ntfs-3g to mount my windows partitions .03:28
casev01but that app is in only text mode?03:28
Linux_Galoreupdate Edgy to Feisty -> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php#upgrade03:28
casev01there is no GUI?03:28
tarelerulzYes there is gui fo the update to 7.0403:29
salvadorbbaI needd install one server game my pc03:29
Linux_Galorecasev01: use kuser to set your permissions03:30
BluesKajI got tired of all the crashes on feisty ...my system can't handle the oversights it causes03:30
Linux_Galorecasev01: or look in kcontrol your choice03:30
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epimeth!ntfs > casev0103:30
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epimethcasev01: basically, apt-get install ntfs-config03:30
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Arwencasev01, stop being afraid of the command line... geesh03:31
casev01haha thx03:31
epimethcasev01: then you have to edit the item in the k-menu from gksu to kdesu03:31
Arwenit's true... you can't ever get anywhere in life without a command line03:31
epimethcuz if you have vanilla kubuntu you won't have gksu installed03:31
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tarelerulzIf a procces is working should it say it is running in ksysgard?03:32
Linux_Galoretarelerulz: yep03:32
epimethcasev01: but its always a good idea to start learning the command line, and editing /etc/fstab is simple enough :-)03:32
Linux_Galoretarelerulz: should run ksysguard though with sudo   ie  sudo ksysguard03:32
salvadorbbaune person brasil03:32
salvadorbba?03:33
epimethBluesKaj: sorry buddy, 'edgy' is no more :-)03:33
epimethBluesKaj: whats the problem03:33
Linux_Galoreepimeth: Im stick getting updates03:33
epimethsalvadorbba: hablas espanol o solamente portugues?03:34
Linux_Galorestill*03:34
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Linux_Galoreright now Im running edgy and I cant see any reason to update to feisty right now03:34
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salvadorbbaportugues03:35
BluesKajwell, ati drivers can't be configged to do DRI , ktorrent crashes , amarok freezes, ...that's just a start03:35
Linux_GaloreI may update when kde 3.5.7 comes out03:35
epimethLinux_Galore: yea, my other comp is edgy and I'm getting updates there too, which on one hand is surprising, but on the other hand *really* doesn't surprise me... but I'm sure they'll stop supporting it really soon03:35
Linux_Galoreepimeth: you would be suprised how many people still run edgy03:36
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Linux_Galoreepimeth: why update if everything works03:36
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epimethLinux_Galore: so why are you not running dapper? :-)03:37
tattoodjayhas anyone had luck with using 4 wallpapers on the 3d cube?03:38
Linux_Galoreepimeth: I do run dapper on another machine, even more stable than edgy Im finding03:38
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epimethLinux_Galore: I agree... on my third machine I updated from dapper to edgy and had lots of problems, but the feisty RC4 worked great03:38
Linux_Galoreepimeth: to be honest Im thinking of doing nothing untill kde 4.0 comes out03:38
casev01how can i change my permissions? i dont get it03:38
BluesKajepimeth, til feisty fixes the problems ati drivers and dri and ktorrent ... to me feisty is an "immature' OS... like a new car that looks great, but has a flat tire every time you want to drive it03:39
casev01and the gksu to kdesu...?03:39
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epimethLinux_Galore: I was thinking about it, but then figured "what the hell"  I just like the fact that the default repos have the newest stable versions of everything03:39
Linux_GaloreBluesKaj: new version of ktorrent was recently released03:39
epimethLinux_Galore: less work, ya know?03:40
casev01:s03:40
BluesKajyeah, Linux_Galore, it sucks too03:40
epimethcasev01: click on K menu -> system03:40
Linux_Galoreepimeth: well I dont have any issues plus I dont like the default build options on the repo's for some packages03:40
epimethcasev01: right click on NTFS Configuration Utility03:40
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epimethcasev01: click on edit item03:40
epimethyou'll see it there03:40
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casev01yep03:41
epimethLinux_Galore: in hebrew we have a saying, "With taste and smell, there is no reason to argue"03:41
Linux_GaloreBluesKaj: I use azureus anyway03:41
helfrezanyone know if there is a repos with the latest 3.5.5+ kde built for LTS03:41
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epimethLinux_Galore: I promise I won't try to convince you to upgrade03:41
Linux_Galoreepimeth: I will eventually just i cant see any reason right now03:42
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casev01i didt but and it mounted it, but when i try to open it says i dont have the permissions...03:42
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epimethhelfrez: I swear I just read something about that... don't remember what exactly03:43
epimethcasev01: did what and mounted what?03:43
helfrezhehe03:43
BluesKajLinux_Galore: yeah but i like my google earth and feisty can't provide that for me , so for practical reasons i just decided to use an OS that i can really use ...no matter if it ain't the shiniest on the block .03:43
epimethhelfrez: sorry :-(03:43
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helfrezi could just upgrade to edgy, but i would prefer to stay on the LTS base03:43
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casev01opened the ntfs-config tool, mounted the partition03:43
salvadorbbatem algum brasileiri ai:03:43
david2I recently downloaded kubuntu.  I burned the iso image, and the cd will boot on all my computers except one.  THe boot order is fine...  But it just goes to the hard disk for some reason.  Anyone have a idea to the cause?03:44
epimethgoogle earth doesn't work on feisty???03:44
rayludavid2, do you have a boot menu type of thing?03:44
acidBURNis there a link on setup ati drivers, via xorg..?03:44
david2Yeah that aint the problem03:44
Linux_GaloreBluesKaj: wait a few weeks it will all get moved over, thats why Im waiting03:44
david2I aint that stupid03:44
BluesKajnot with my ati card03:44
acidBURNrunning x60003:44
raylulol03:44
rayludavid2, how old is the computer?03:45
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david2It's a ibmt4303:45
helfrezill just try the edgy kde repe, thats one thing that keeps drawing me back to kde, its very clean on the install03:45
david2I isn't that old03:45
helfrezi have a old rhel4 box that runs 3.5.6 np lol03:45
david2A knoppix cd boots fine03:46
Linux_GaloreBluesKaj: the ati issues is more complex, the issue is that Xorg has changed allot recently and ati have been very slack in release drivers tha keep up, I have no issues with nvidia stuff though on my test machine running feisty03:46
rayluhm. strange. no idea, sorry :P03:46
david2so I can't see the logic here03:46
david2As far as I am concerned there should be no issue here... But there is03:46
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rayluas far as i'm concerned i should have a 10000000000rpm hard drive. but I don't :P03:47
epimethdavid2: that *is* odd... it actually happened to me not too long ago... have you tried burning another copy? that ddid it for me03:47
BluesKajthe ati fglrx driver does a core dump when installing the ati driver on feisty ...i admit I did have it working when it was installed the first day ... but after updates  no more fgl_glxgears and dri and google earth03:47
david2I burnt 20 cd's03:47
raylubut he's tried it on other machines, epimeth03:47
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david2all the same results03:47
Linux_GaloreBluesKaj: also Intel graphics stuff (i950) work great and compiz works right out the box with out any stuffing around03:47
donHow can I install Knoppix I have disc runs fine demo ?03:47
david2Knoppix has an install script somewhere03:48
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david2I think the latest version has a program under the kde menu03:48
donmine is all german I dont see how install03:48
casev01i cant change the permissions of the partition... :(03:48
epimethraylu: so?  maybe it got scratched just now? maybe the cd was written slightly incorrectly and only that one drive can't read it?  its not like making another copy will cost him more than a quarter03:48
david2They have a english one..03:48
Linux_GaloreUbuntu cant do anything about ati being slow in updating drivers, intel have no issues, neither do nvidia03:49
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rayluI'm assumimg he's tried it back in his other computers since then03:49
doni figured I could get english on install03:49
Linux_Galorebut then again Intel is open source03:49
epimethcasev01: pastebin your /etc/fstab03:49
david2you can don03:49
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david2You need the english version iso03:49
epimethraylu: see point three :-p03:49
raylulol03:50
rayluokay, you got me there03:50
david2Well then...03:50
casev01ok03:50
donI would like to install on one of my boxes03:50
david2 I guess I'll forget installing kubuntu on the ibm03:50
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rayludon, knoppix?03:50
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johntHi Folks I am trying to burn an mpeg1  file to dvd in k3b how do I transfer the encoding??03:50
epimethdavid2: try burning it again, mate!03:50
david2AH well 2 outta 3 computers aint bad03:50
donya I look everyware in it and cant see install03:50
david2I did 20 times already mate...03:51
rayluis there a USB version of *ubuntu?03:51
david2SO what does that tell you03:51
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david2??03:51
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epimethdavid2: also, remove the HD from the boot ordering completely... try and force the bios to load from CD03:51
rayludon, if you want knoppix help...try the knoppix channel03:51
david2Did  that03:51
Linux_Galorejohnt: ?? do you want to just copy the file to the disk or re-encode03:51
casev01proc /proc proc defaults 0 003:51
casev01# Entry for /dev/sda1 :03:51
donok03:51
epimethdavid2: then I'm out, mate... good luck :-)03:51
rayludavid2, if you really want it, you could try swapping CD drives...03:51
epimethcasev01: STOP03:51
casev01UUID=61aba60a-142a-400b-9645-5bde5afefaa8 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 103:51
casev01# Entry for /dev/sda6 :03:51
epimethcasev01: pastebin, not paste03:51
casev01UUID=1c5e0c0e-171a-4553-ac99-885d8aa81b99 none swap sw 0 003:51
casev01/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 003:51
raylu!pastebin casev0103:51
casev01/dev/sda5 /media/intercambio auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,exec,nosuid 0 003:51
david2I aint buying a new cdrom if a knoppix cd boots03:51
casev01/dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=es_CL.UTF-8 0 003:51
casev01ok03:52
Linux_Galorecasev01: your spamming the room03:52
raylule oops.03:52
casev01thats all03:52
david2makes no f*ing sense03:52
casev01=/03:52
rayludavid2, just swap from the other compute03:52
raylur03:52
raylu!pastebin | casev0103:52
ubotucasev01: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:52
david2It's a laptop03:52
casev01sorry03:52
rayluoh.03:52
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epimethdavid2: try and get an extrenal cdrom?03:52
david2I dont want to spend money....03:52
johntLinux_Galore; I have an mpeg1 from my digi cam and I want to see it on my dvd player on tv03:52
Linux_Galorecasev01: copy the text to the patbin website then post the link03:52
Linux_Galorepastbin*03:52
rayluso...is there a USB version of *ubuntu?03:52
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david2I'll just figure it out later03:53
david2Cause what you are suggesting is stupid and no help03:53
casev01http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19370/03:53
Linux_Galorejohnt: most dvd players will happily play a mpreg1/3/4 file so just burn it as a data DVD03:53
casev01i didnt know it03:53
epimethraylu: now I *know* I saw something about that...03:53
MaxdamantusAnyone here got SWAT working on K/Ubuntu03:53
casev01sda5 and sda2 are my partitions to mount03:54
johntLinux_Galore; For some reason this player does not and I want to d/l some tv proggrame from p2p and have them as dvd03:54
epimethdavid2: please, thats just rude... I was just suggesting what I would do, and you did all of it already03:55
Linux_Galorejohnt: my $49 dvd player will play just about any file type I throw as it  avi/mpreg1/2/3/403:55
epimethdavid2: so you *really* can't call it stupid03:55
david2I may just take a sledge hammer to my laptop and cut my losses...03:55
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epimethdavid2: and getting an external drive from a friend would probably solve your problem03:55
Linux_Galorejohnt: you need to transcode the file into something the dvd player can handle03:55
Maxdamantuscasev01, what are you trying to do?03:55
david2You assume too much epimeth03:55
domenicdoes anyone know a good search utility... which comes default with kubuntu?03:55
epimethMaxdamantus: I've never gotten SWAT to work... ever...03:56
Maxdamantusdomenic, A GUI one, or command line?03:56
domenicGUI03:56
epimethdavid2: I assume to much?03:56
epimethdavid2: wtf is that supposed to mean???03:56
rayludomenic, KMenu > Find?03:56
johntLinux_Galore; OK I will try again but it still does not get me a dvd burn in k3b it comes back with the "fail" tune03:56
MaxdamantusYou could use the one in Konqueror.03:56
david2You assume I know someone who has a external cdrom...  You assume I want to go out of my way to call03:56
MaxdamantusI like the command line slocate. It's uber fast.03:56
casev01mounting my ntfs partitions... really y mounted yet, but i dont have the permissions to use it03:56
epimethcasev01: have you tried a reboot?  cuz the fstab looks okay to me03:57
david2The answers should be in my own house03:57
Linux_Galorejohnt: try using the Other Options -> Rip Video DVD03:57
epimethor just unmounting and then remounting03:57
casev01ok, i will try03:57
casev01thc03:57
BluesKajMaxdamantus, epimeth...komba2 is a great LAN browser03:57
rayluwait03:57
casev01thx03:57
domenicMaxdamantus: so is there a good GUI one?03:57
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raylucasev01, try sudo ls03:57
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casev01i will be back03:57
Linux_Galorejohnt: in k3b03:57
rayluI had some issues with permissions on my NTFSs03:57
epimethdavid2: no, I said "if", and  "try to get"03:57
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epimethdavid2: see, I know absolutely nobody with an external cdrom drive, and I def. don't assume that anyone has03:58
BluesKajraylu, install ntfs-config and ntfs-3g03:58
johntLinux_Galore; Rip for files that are on my hd??03:58
david2I aint gonna argue with you... My point is I should have to do back flips to get this to work...  All my other computers seem to like the cd just fine...  So lets drop this issue.03:58
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Linux_Galorejohnt: yep03:58
Maxdamantusdomenic, I don't really see what Konqueror find is lacking with a GUI.03:58
epimethdavid2: as for "in your own house"... you can set up a computer to serve a network install03:59
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david2Yeah03:59
MaxdamantusBut for performance, command line programs are almost always more powerful.03:59
epimethdavid2: but it is beyond me to help you with that03:59
johntLinux_Galore; OK I never thought of that thx heaps03:59
Linux_Galorejohnt:  sorry Im thinking the wrong way around03:59
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Linux_Galorejohnt: that for ripping a dvd to a file03:59
johntLinux_Galore; So maybe not then??04:00
david2Okay I know my options now it is up to me to decide how much work I need to do.04:00
epimethBluesKaj: whats that about komba2?04:00
david2I'll just download slackware04:00
david2I bet you that cd will boot04:01
epimethdavid2: gentoo :-)04:01
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johntLinux_Galore; I select the file drag and drop then when I hit burn I get errors04:01
epimethdavid2: people have been trying to convince me to move to gentoo for months!04:01
david2I have gentoo on another computer04:01
Dhraakellianhow easy/difficult is it to get the aoTuV oggenc on kubuntu?04:01
epimethdavid2: you like it?04:01
david2It's work I do not wish to do right now04:01
david2It's great04:01
thomas_Hey guys I have a noob question for you, I just got automatix and I'm about to install the NTFS support. Now when it tells me that it's going to unmount then remount my NTFS partitions, will that delete any of the data that I have on those partitions?04:01
david2just takes time to compile all that sh*t04:01
epimethdavid2: tell that to my server who doesn't want to accept my public key...04:01
epimeththomas_: probably not04:02
david2You need to be in a mood to install gentoo04:02
david2and you need to back it up right away...04:02
Linux_Galorejohnt: ok File -> New Project -> New Video DVD (or CD)04:02
Dhraakellianhehheh04:02
thomas_Alright thank you04:02
david2If your patience is gone for the day...04:02
epimeththomas_: but you might be the one in a bajillion that it happens to04:02
johntLinux_Galore; yep04:02
david2You make it worse...04:02
david2I just hate RPMS04:02
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epimethdavid2: its a difficult intsall?04:03
tarelerulzHave any of you ugraded to 7.04 and if so did you get any  erorr or weird attive like the gui for the upgrede seem  to freze04:03
david2What gentoo?04:03
Linux_Galorejohnt: just drag and drop the file04:03
DhraakellianI'm planning on trying out kubuntu for a while, but I'm still going to be tarring my Gentoo root directory over to my mom's HD so that I don't have to do a from-scratch reinstall if I decide to go back04:03
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epimethdavid2: yea... or were you talking about something else?04:03
comodocan someone help me with this error message? hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 100004:03
Dhraakellianepimeth: not so much difficullt as lengthy04:03
Lord_Maynoth_42does anyone know what this means:"cdrecord will be run without root privileges"04:03
johntLinux_Galore; TV dvd player saYS NO SUPPORTING FILES FOUND WHEN i TRY TO PLAY THAT MPEG104:03
david2Gentoo install is a lot of typing04:03
Lord_Maynoth_42from KDE04:03
Lord_Maynoth_42K3B04:03
Lord_Maynoth_42I mean04:03
Dhraakellianepimeth: Gentoo's install documentation is excellent, but it still takes a while to do it04:04
Lord_Maynoth_42how do I give cdrecord root priviledges?04:04
rayluLord_Maynoth_42, I think you need to run K3B as root04:04
david2I just dont have the patience right now to deal with it...04:04
Linux_Galorejohnt: did you create a Video CD/DVD ??04:04
johntLinux_Galore; sorry caps lock04:04
Lord_Maynoth_42ahh04:04
raylukdesu k3b, or something similar04:04
Lord_Maynoth_42ok04:04
Lord_Maynoth_42thanks04:04
rayluI'm not sure though. I haven't used k3b in a long time04:04
epimethI'll probably install gentoo on one of these systems eventually... too many people have been telling me to try it out04:04
david2AH well04:04
Dhraakellianheh...04:04
rayluMy experience with gentoo has been rather painful04:04
david2Just make sure you have plenty of rest before ya do....04:05
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Dhraakellianstill need to figure out the exact tar syntax to get the backup onto my mom's box without the tar file ever being on mine04:05
david2and back it up04:05
Linux_Galorejohnt: Video CD/DVD has some extra formatting that some players need before they can see the file04:05
Lord_Maynoth_42:C  it complains when I run it as root04:05
Lord_Maynoth_42:c04:05
Lord_Maynoth_42says not to04:05
johntLinux_Galore; No That is the problem. I know what to do I just cannot do it because k3b needs to transfer the encoding and cannot04:05
Lord_Maynoth_42:/04:05
david2Gentoo is anal as hell04:05
Lord_Maynoth_42is there a way to give just cdrecord root privledges04:05
DhraakellianLord_Maynoth_42: isn't there a k3bsetup program that makes sure k3b has the proper permissions to burn things as user?04:06
david2I need another beer...04:06
johntLinux_Galore; How do I do the xtra formatting please04:06
Lord_Maynoth_42i dunno04:06
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DhraakellianLord_Maynoth_42: yeah, try sudo k3bsetup04:06
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Linux_Galorejohnt: aaah, I suspect its because ffmpeg in Ubuntu is restricted, you may have to compile it with everything enabled04:06
Lord_Maynoth_42:C04:06
Lord_Maynoth_42command not found04:06
Dhraakellianhuh04:06
rayluLord_Maynoth_42, kdesu or k3b?04:07
Lord_Maynoth_42k3b04:07
Linux_Galorejohnt: k3b uses ffmeg to transcode the file but Ubuntu's version has lots of stuff disabled in the package04:07
rayluhm...I'm not sure what the command for k3b is. You can find it in Adept if you show details and list the files installed by the k3b package04:08
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Linux_Galoreraylu: alt F2  type k3b04:08
johntLinux_Galore; I just did locate ffmpeg and it looks like the transcode is there so I guess I need to figure out how to enable it then04:09
rayluer...I'm not in linux right now :P04:09
epimethhrm... my katapult seems to be a bit buggy... it isn't finding KAudioCreator04:09
epimethraylu: shame!04:09
Linux_Galorejohnt: ffmpeg is there, what the issue is the ubuntu dev's when they create the package disable all the good bits04:09
tarelerulzI rann the update for kuntu and I upgrading it to 7.04 via dpkg and  front end for upgade seem to be froze on 18%04:10
epimethand by "good bits" we mean "stuff that isn't covered by the GPL" :-)04:10
epimethtarelerulz: again I ask, did you back your things up?04:10
Linux_Galorejohnt: due to copyright issues, if you google  ffmpeg  ubuntu compile you will see a few howto's04:11
tarelerulzI did not back them up .  I just ran the updater and that is all I have done.04:11
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johntLinux_Galore; Ok then that might be why I did not find the info on the ubuntu sites04:12
tarelerulzThere is a window that say distribution upgrede and it is on fecting and installiing upgredes and it is on 18% for the last hour04:12
Linux_Galorejohnt: actually the links google spits out are ubuntu help pages lol04:12
epimethis it "fetching" or is it "isntalling", do you know?04:12
epimethtarelerulz: ^04:12
tarelerulzit says it is on configuing libssl.0.9.9.04:13
Linux_Galorejohnt: I came accross this same issue recently because i needed to transcode a video file for my iPOD and found ffmpeg is crippled04:13
tarelerulzIt has been saying that more the 24 minutes .04:13
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johntLinux_Galore; Lol :-)   Did you fix??04:14
Linux_Galorejohnt: my old Mandriva 2006 machine didnt have this issue though thanks to the plf packages04:14
epimethtarelerulz: hrm... I really don't know much about the updater as I installed from scratch... so I really can't help you at this point04:14
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epimethtarelerulz: I would wait until someone came on that *can* help you04:14
Linux_Galorejohnt: yeah i compiled ffmpeg based on a howto found via google04:14
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david2does kubuntu have  32 bit combatibility libraries for applications compiled as 32 bit?04:15
tarelerulzepimeth ,  I thought as much ,but think for trying to help me.04:15
MaxdamantusFfs.04:15
MaxdamantusAnyone here had a samba server working correctly?04:15
epimethtarelerulz: you don't want to stop it and reboot and find that you can't get back into your linux since its half upgraded04:15
david2I have04:15
MaxdamantusMine always has some password on it which I don;'t know.04:15
MaxdamantusBrb.04:15
johntLinux_Galore: OK then thank you for your help I will go do my home work now ha ha..04:15
epimethMaxdamantus: yup04:15
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david2YOu need to make a user and set a passwd04:15
casev01thx i did it04:15
Linux_Galorejohnt: Im finding if you want to transcode or do video editing Ubuntu has some nasty limitations04:15
tarelerulzHaha sure I would love to do that and since I don't have working cd rom drive that would be more run.04:16
epimethcasev01: did your permissions work out?04:16
killermach_I'm looking for the game Tali.. I have it on edgy machine, but can't find it to install in fiesty04:16
ben325eHi - I just installed Kubuntu for my 1st time, and want to know if there is anything anyone would reccomend doing right off... any programs that ubuntu/kubuntu doesn't come with...etc... I've heard of several programs that "set everything up"for you, but I don't really know about these programs.04:16
johntLinux_Galore: Yuk   I might have to talk to some of my geek mates then??04:17
Maxdamantusdavid2, where?04:17
epimethben325e: definitely firefox for web... and I like dophin for my filesystem viewer...04:17
david2Hold on04:17
Linux_Galorejohnt: yeah, dont laugh OSX and Windows has similar issues unless you pay for some $$$ software04:17
ben325edolphin... never heard of it... will definitely check it out. thx.04:17
david2I had a website bookmarked telling all about it.... But it aint loading right now04:18
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tarelerulzI would like to say Ubuntu 7.04 is the best Linux I have used and the easyest to get running the way you want too.04:18
cobbercashhey04:18
casev01yep04:18
casev01thx04:18
cobbercashcan someone help me.04:18
epimethben325e: besides that I dunno what to tell you... I guess KMoney for your Quicken replacement... take a look at Add/Remove Programs for Ideas04:19
david2I use gnucash04:19
epimethMaxdamantus: whats the problem with samba?04:19
cobbercashcan someone please help? i installed linux on my sister's laptop and now the images look really squished04:19
Linux_Galorejohnt: Im finding Mandriva with the plf repositories are an easier option if you want to do things like transcoding video formats that have format restrictions04:19
MaxdamantusNot a clue what the password is, about to try something now though.04:20
ben325ewill do... do you know anything about a program that sets a lot of basics up for ya?04:20
epimethdavid2: I just have an allergy to anything that starts with a "g" :-)04:20
Linux_Galorejohnt: you can do the same in Ubuntu but their isnt anything like the plf stuff in Ubuntu04:20
cobbercashplease can someone help!!!04:20
epimethMaxdamantus: add "security = share" to your smb.conf under "general"04:20
Linux_Galorejohnt: so you have to compile a few things04:20
epimethMaxdamantus: unless you want proper security on the shares, of course04:21
david2Hmm the laptop has a ati card on it anyhow04:21
MaxdamantusGeneral, or global?04:21
johntLinux_Galore: Yuk   Mandriva?  is that a mandrake fork?04:21
Linux_Galorejohnt: Mandriva is the new name for Mandrake04:21
epimethMaxdamantus: in which case you have to run smbpasswd and add a user04:21
johntLinux_Galore: sorry no yuk04:22
epimethjohnt: mandrake is no longer with us :-)04:22
cobbercash:( hello?04:22
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epimethgod that was a heavy distro... I think my windows ran faster than that one....04:22
epimethcobbercash: we're here, just be patient :-)04:22
Linux_Galorejohnt: well you have to compile the ffmpeg stuff then, not hard to be honest04:22
david2AH well tommarrow is another day....04:22
Dhraakelliandoes the Ogg Vorbis encoder shipped with Kubuntu include the aoTuV improvements?04:22
cobbercash:)04:22
david2Later peoples04:22
epimethdavid2: adios04:23
crimsunDhraakellian: no.  It's the xiph.org reference implementation.04:23
MaxdamantusCould not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE04:23
MaxdamantusFailed to change password for maxdamantus04:23
Maxdamantus:S04:23
epimethMaxdamantus: general, sorry04:23
Dhraakelliancrimsun: thanks04:23
MaxdamantusIt must have some default password set that I don't know about.04:23
crimsunDhraakellian: except for the earlier bits incorporated from aoTuV, of course.04:23
Dhraakellianyeah04:23
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Dhraakellianreading on HA about it04:23
epimethMaxdamantus: you should seperate your linux users and samba users unless you really want them to be the same04:23
DhraakellianI emerged with USE=aotuv on gentoo and am wondering how difficult it'd be to get it on kubuntu04:24
epimethMaxdamantus: do "smbpassword sambashare" or something04:24
johntLinux_Galore: Well I do not have a lot to lose by the sound of things. Not sure how this will affect migrating windows users or the Dell relelease though..:-((04:24
epimethMaxdamantus: getting your regular users and samba users to be the same takes a bit more work04:24
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epimethMaxdamantus: also, if you don't want to be bothered with a password just don't use user security, set it to share04:25
Linux_Galorejohnt: well there are $$$ apps for Linux that do what you want and even in OSX and Windows you ave to pay for transcoding apps anyway04:25
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epimethMaxdamantus: that way anyone on the network can get to them without a problem04:25
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danny500Hey is there a game for Ubuntu thats like Bejeweld?04:26
johntLinux_Galore: Fair enough, I am getting too used to the "free" thing. ;-)04:26
tarelerulzis there a command line  that dose the same thing as Ksysguard?04:26
Dhraakelliantarelerulz: top04:26
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MaxdamantusIs smbpasswd meant to write to /etc/samba/smbpasswd?04:26
MaxdamantusBecause as far as I can tell, running smbpasswd as root doesn't seem to do anything.04:27
Linux_Galorejohnt: very easy to forget that even though one can do some things on windows you had to pay for it04:27
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johntDanny500: Gweled04:27
johntLinux_Galore: Yes! That is true..04:28
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noiesmoMaxdamantus, sudo smbpasswd useraname you will then be asked to create a new password for that user04:28
Linux_Galorejohnt: the problem Ubuntu has is they cant add comercial format support by default because obviously they will get sued04:28
epimethMaxdamantus: and is there any reason at all you want to secure your shares???04:29
MaxdamantusFailed to find entry for user max.04:29
MaxdamantusFailed to modify password entry for user max04:29
epimethMaxdamantus: sudo smbpasswd max04:29
johntLinux_Galore: I understand that. It is a bit frustrating for us old wanna be geeks though :-))04:29
MaxdamantusBecause I still can't seem to get it working unsecured.04:29
Maxdamantusepimeth, that's what I just did.04:29
epimetharg... lemme install samba server... hold up04:30
Linux_Galorejohnt: doesnt mean you cant then go and install alternate packages or compile the options in yourself though04:30
Maxdamantus:S04:30
Maxdamantus-a is meant to add user.04:30
MaxdamantusBut it doesn't seem to do anything either.04:30
Linux_Galorejohnt: yeah, welcome to the new world order were your told how to use your computer04:30
MaxdamantusJust tells me:04:30
MaxdamantusFailed to modify password entry for user max04:30
johntLinux_Galore: True, I will get there though!!04:31
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cobbercashif anyone has a moment, my question isn't huge?04:32
Linux_Galorejohnt: Ubuntu community really needs something like the PLF stuff Mandriva has, it makes life so much easier04:32
cWolfeholy crap - hydrogen is the best drum software ive ever encountered04:32
cWolfeand its free!04:32
johntDanny500: in kubuntu it may have a name like kweled04:32
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Linux_GalorecWolfe: yeah, amazing piece of work04:32
johntLinux_Galore: Agreed04:33
MaxdamantusNothing is free.04:33
poningruLinux_Galore: it does have it04:33
poningruLinux_Galore: what are you looking for?04:33
Linux_Galoreponingru: yeah but there is nothing in there04:33
poningruLinux_Galore: thats what multiverse is for04:33
poningruLinux_Galore: are you talking about the commercial stuff? like opera and realplayer?04:33
Linux_Galoreponingru: no transcoding libs04:34
poningrutranscoding libs?04:34
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poningrulike music codecs?04:34
poningruare you sure you are running feisty?04:34
Linux_Galoreponingru: ffmpeg for example that doesnt have everything turned off04:34
poningru...04:34
poningruLinux_Galore: are you sure you are running feisty?04:34
poningruLinux_Galore: just double click on the music you want to play and watch it do the magic04:35
Linux_Galoreponingru: its not an issue for me I just compiled it weeks ago, johnt is having the issues04:35
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poningrujohnt: what trouble are you having?04:35
Linux_Galoreponingru: playing music isnt transcoding04:35
epimethponingru: mine didn't... had to isntall the codecs myself04:35
poningruepimeth: uh...04:35
johntpongiru: I think the original q was from me I want to transcode a MPEG1 to dvd format and k3b will not do it04:36
epimethponingru: it was very odd... the beta worked fine, the release didn't...04:36
poningruepimeth: thats weird04:36
epimethponingru: yup04:36
poningrujohnt: just use mencoder04:37
Linux_Galoreponingru: ffmpeg shows up for me on the default package as having allot of the options not set to --enable in the compile04:37
johntpongiru: Mencoder??04:37
poningruk3b does not automatically convert stuff04:37
Linux_Galoreponingru: actually it does it uses ffmpeg as the back end04:37
poningruI dont think there is a gui in linux to transcode different stuff04:38
poningruit does?04:38
poningrusince when?04:38
Linux_Galoreponingru: about 8 months ago04:38
MaxdamantusAhah!04:38
epimethMaxdamantus: still here04:38
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poningruok researching before I say something more stupid04:38
MaxdamantusYes.04:38
MaxdamantusI've almost got it.04:39
johntponingru: so install mencoder to transfer encode then burn with k3b??04:39
MaxdamantusDoesn't ask for any login when I check the shared items now.04:39
epimethMaxdamantus: set security to share?04:39
poningrujohnt: yes04:39
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johntponingru: OK I will try that and see what the outcome is. You have tried and is OK??04:40
poningrujohnt: but you should probably install the codecs ffmpeg-plugin-ugly etc. first04:40
poningrujohnt: yes ofcourse04:40
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Linux_Galoreponingru: I think the issues is that his DVD player wont read a raw data dvd with an mpeg1 file on it, he needs a Video CD/DVD04:40
poningruLinux_Galore: right mpeg2 is what it needs04:41
poningruiirc04:41
Linux_Galorejohnt: yeah just use mencoder to transcode from mpeg1 to mpreg204:41
Linux_Galorempeg2*04:42
johntponingru: I did a bunch of codecs not sure about ugly but will check04:42
Linux_Galorejohnt: or just get a decent dvd player heh04:42
johntLinux_Galore: k3b understands mpeg2??04:42
poningrujohnt: there are guides out there for mencoder04:43
poningruon howto convert04:43
ben325ehey, gotta new kubuntu install (new user) and am looking for mp3 support as well as dvd copying capability04:43
ben325eany suggestions?04:43
Linux_Galorejohnt: according to what Im reading it should happily deal with them all thanks to ffmpeg doing on the fly transcoding04:43
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biovore!restricted_formats04:43
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:44
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johntI like the get a decent video player option   but will persist with this thanks for you  help peoples. I have to work now bye..04:44
tarelerulzSo any one else try to upgrade from 6.10 kubuntu to 7.04 ubuntu with adept or dpkg?04:45
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tarelerulzthe resason I ask is I did that and the disribution upgrade window seem to be foze  and I wanted to know if that was a normal bug?04:48
MaxdamantusThat's why you have a seperate /home partition. :P04:48
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bonbonthejonMaxdamantus: do you know of a way to resize an ext3 partition and then move /home to a new partition04:50
MaxdamantusDepends what ext3 you're resizing.04:51
bonbonthejonMaxdamantus: /04:51
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MaxdamantusYou'll need to resize it from somewhere else.04:51
xeviousok04:51
xeviouscrazy guy on the loose04:51
xeviouswant to upgrade debian etch to feisty04:52
xeviouswhat are my apt sources?04:52
bonbonthejon!source-o-matic04:52
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:52
MaxdamantusYou could use a LiveCD, and use (G/QT)Parted to resize it.04:52
MaxdamantusBut can't resize partitions while they're mounted.04:52
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bonbonthejonMaxdamantus: aye04:53
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xeviousbonbonthejon: thankee04:53
xeviouswait04:54
xeviousi want kubuntu04:54
MaxdamantusAfter that, you create a new partition.04:54
MaxdamantusThen mount it somewhere.04:54
bonbonthejonxevious: they use the same repos04:54
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hephaestus_with glxinfo | grep rendering i got this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:54
MaxdamantusAnd (as root) cp -ax /home/* /path/to/newpartition/04:54
hephaestus_i cant understand, glx is installed04:55
MaxdamantusThen mount the new partition as /home04:55
xeviousbonbonthejon: just replace ...ubuntu.com/ubuntu with ...ubuntu.com/kubuntu?04:55
bonbonthejonxevious: I dont understand? if you generated a sources.list with source-o-matic, it will work for ubuntu and kubuntu04:56
xeviousbonbonthejon: right, but they're pointing towards the ubuntu repositories04:57
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bonbonthejonxevious: I dont see the problem, but I do see a problem trying to go from debian etch to feisty04:58
freeflyercan someone tell me where to get my nvidia drivers for kubuntu04:58
xeviousbonbonthejon: don't i want to make this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted... into this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/kubuntu feisty main restricted? notice the kubuntu at the end of the URL04:58
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bonbonthejonxevious: no, I dont think so04:59
xeviousbonbonthejon: you use kubuntu or ubuntu?04:59
bonbonthejonxevious: kubuntu, heres my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19378/05:00
xeviousbonbonthejon: i need to see a stock sources.list, not a source-o-matic one05:00
bonbonthejonxevious: its the same05:01
xeviousi'm pretty sure i need to replace ubuntu with kubuntu, otherwise i'll end up with ubuntu (gnome desktop), not a kubuntu installation after doing apt-get dist-upgrade05:01
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bonbonthejonxevious: i dont think going from debian etch will work, you might need to reinstall05:02
xeviousi know the package archives are the same, but the specific repository decides which packages to install and which distro you end up with05:02
xeviousi think.05:02
xeviousbonbonthejon: i'll try and let you know05:02
bonbonthejonxevious: make sure you back up everything, I suspect hard times ahead05:02
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xeviousall my files are on my fileserver05:03
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xeviousnothing unsafe on here05:03
freeflyercan somone tell me an easy way to install nvidia driver on kubuntu05:04
bonbonthejon!nvidia05:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:04
xeviousfreeflyer: did you just install kubuntu?05:05
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freeflyeryea i did05:05
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xeviousfreeflyer: have you modified your sources.list file yet?05:06
freeflyerno i havent05:06
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xeviousfreeflyer: can you paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  ?05:06
Dragnslcrfreeflyer- in Adept, go to Adept -> Manage Repositories05:07
xeviousfreeflyer: and then give me the link to look at it?05:07
DragnslcrMake sure the option for proprietary drivers is checked05:07
DragnslcrThat should add the restricted repository05:08
freeflyerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19379/05:08
xeviousthanks!05:08
xeviousbonbonthejon: by golly you're right05:09
bonbonthejonxevious: ??05:09
xeviousbonbonthejon: the sources.list entries05:09
xeviousit says ubuntu05:09
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xevioushuh05:10
xeviousi wonder how i dist-upgrade to kubuntu with the ubuntu sources.list entries05:10
freeflyeryea  dragnslcr its checked05:11
Maxdamantusxevious, incase you havn't noticed, all Kubuntu is is Ubuntu, but with KDE instead of GNOME.05:11
Dragnslcrfreeflyer- the NVidia drivers should show up in the package list then05:11
MaxdamantusEven if it does turn out installing GNOME, you should still have KDE.05:12
MaxdamantusIf not, you can reinstall it easily.05:12
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Aloneais there something like daemon tools for linux? or is there a daemon tools version for linux already?05:13
MaxdamantusAlonea, to do what?05:13
MaxdamantusWhen mounting a CD in Linux, you don't read directly from the device.05:14
AloneaMaxdamantus: virtual drive...thats what daemon tools is generally for05:14
MaxdamantusAll it is is a folder with files.05:14
freeflyerwhat will the driver be called i mean is there one driver for all nvidia cards or what?05:14
AloneaMaxdamantus: I have an iso I want to mount to a virtual drive because when i burn it, it keeps on failing.05:15
Dragnslcrfreeflyer- I think it depends on your card05:15
Maxdamantusmount -t iso9660 file.iso /some/directory/to/mount/to05:15
DragnslcrI have a 7900, and I have nvidia-glx installed05:15
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AloneaMaxdamantus: ok, thanks. will try that and see if this os will install now on vmware.05:16
DragnslcrActually, I think that's the only nVidia driver05:16
MaxdamantusJust mount the iso in vmware.05:16
freeflyeri have 620005:16
freeflyerwhat driver should i get for it05:16
MaxdamantusI'll PM you the block to mount an iso in vmware if you want.05:16
Dragnslcrfreeflyer- probably nvidia-glx05:16
freeflyeris there a command to run in the termainal to get it05:17
AloneaMaxdamantus: yeah, I was just fixing to ask how. i have only had it for a day05:17
Dragnslcrapt-get install nvidia-glx05:17
DragnslcrThough if you have KDE running, you might as well just use Adept05:17
freeflyeri keep getting this error There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.05:18
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Dragnslcrfreeflyer- the preview should tell you which packages conflict05:18
DragnslcrIt looks like the only conflicts are with other unneeded nvidia packages05:19
jza873hay evey pne i was wondering if comeone can help me i have one of those psx to usb adapters and i tried to use it it works but when i press a button it look liek it is turbo the program in linux makes it look liek if i press up im constantly hitting it is ther any other collaboration devices out there05:19
freeflyerhow to check for direct rendering05:19
noiesmofreeflyer, glxinfo |grep direct05:19
jza873that for me05:20
jza873ohh no sorry05:20
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K`zanWhere does one find the md5sums for the downloaded 7.04 CD?  TIA!05:20
BluesKajati - fgl_glxgears spinning six sided cube with gears on each face05:21
DragnslcrK`zan- CD or DVD?05:22
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K`zanDragnslcr: Never mind, I found some, thanks!05:23
DragnslcrThe CD ones are pretty easy to find. It took me half a day to find the ones for the DVD05:23
virii2dcodehello people05:23
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virii2dcodewhat DVD?05:24
DragnslcrThe md5sums for the Feisty DVD05:24
virii2dcodeO'h your updating and upgrading..05:24
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virii2dcodeor just running the CD-DVD promo?05:25
DragnslcrHuh?05:25
virii2dcodeAre you runnng the fiesty now?05:25
virii2dcodewhats your OS05:26
virii2dcode?05:26
DragnslcrYes, I am05:27
virii2dcodeAre you going to run Beryl also?05:27
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DragnslcrI tried it for a little while, but it seemed a bit flaky05:28
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DragnslcrI'll probably give it another shot when 0.3 comes out05:28
virii2dcodeThe 3d effect was ok but i herd it crashes alot..05:28
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virii2dcodeit piles to much cache.05:29
DragnslcrIt's pretty good for being at version 0.2, but they still have a fair amount of work before it's ready for normal users05:29
virii2dcodeyes i think its still in its Beta format.05:29
virii2dcodewhich means its not fully stable yet.05:30
virii2dcodewhat do you like to use your Comp for-use ~or ~play?05:31
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MaxdamantusBeryl. :(05:32
MaxdamantusWish I had a better graphics card.05:32
virii2dcodeyou dont like..05:32
MaxdamantusI do like, just really laggy on my card.05:32
virii2dcodewhat system are you running?05:33
biovoreberyl really need a nvidia card. (ATI works for some cards)05:33
MaxdamantusKubuntu.. It's not the system.05:33
virii2dcodecant you upgrade the graphics card threw the driver?05:33
MaxdamantusIt's the fact that all my graphics card is is an output to the monitor that steals 24mb of the main RAM.05:33
MaxdamantusHard to get a good PCI video card.05:33
virii2dcodeO'h lol..05:33
MaxdamantusNo PCI-E or AGP.05:34
virii2dcodethats true..05:34
virii2dcodewhy not?05:34
MaxdamantusBecause my motherboard is crap.05:34
virii2dcodebut what are you playing with?05:34
MaxdamantusWhat do you mean?05:34
virii2dcodeme-acer labtop/linux.05:35
MaxdamantusHP desktop/linux05:35
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virii2dcodeO'h thaat helps..05:35
virii2dcodeHp is pretty good i guess..05:35
Maxdamantushttp://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07813&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=325139&lang=en05:35
virii2dcodemy brother runns it to.05:35
MaxdamantusThat's the motherboard my system came with. :P05:36
MaxdamantusBet you can't find a manufacturers site.05:36
voidmagebiovore: yeah, i regret buying an ATI card a long time ago when i built this box05:36
voidmagenewegg has a 7600 for $90 though05:36
virii2dcodeI know they dont >HP company< like to invest good money in there products,cause they make more money on there other products..05:37
MaxdamantusI'm actually thinking of getting a new motherboard.05:37
virii2dcodeI have a Celleron M..05:37
MaxdamantusThere's a shop with fairly good prices in town that I think might install for a small fee.05:37
MaxdamantusNever installed a new motherboard though, and don't feel to keep.05:38
virii2dcodeit could be worth it..05:38
MaxdamantusBtw, look at my mb diagram. :S05:38
MaxdamantusThe RAM is directly underneath the HDDs.05:38
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MaxdamantusWhich you need to take off the fan duct and unplug HDDs to get.05:39
nirmalhi all05:39
MaxdamantusAnd then it has about 10cm vertically of nothing at the bottom.05:39
virii2dcodei know ..---> steal the source code from nevidia..re-engineer the driver that would be compatible..that might work.05:39
voidmagea 7600 for $90, get?05:40
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virii2dcodeGEt..05:40
virii2dcodegraphics are good ..if you like games-photo's and the all around browsing..but i dont need that stuff for what i like to do..05:41
MaxdamantusYea, I don't really need very good graphics.05:42
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MaxdamantusThe only thing I'd want a better graphics card for is Beryl.05:42
MaxdamantusBecause it looks cool.05:42
virii2dcodeO'h you like Beryl that much..i heard it was a lil slow..05:42
[Flux] my card sucks and i run beryl no problem05:42
houdinizei wanna a simplified Beryl.05:42
Maxdamantus[Flux] , how bad?05:42
[Flux] i have an ATI Radeon 200 Express05:42
[Flux] lol05:42
MaxdamantusThat's insane compared to mine,05:43
[Flux] oh =/05:43
[Flux] i cant use the latest beryl in the repo though05:43
MaxdamantusMines integrated, steals 24mb onboard RAM.05:43
[Flux] i have to use the 0.2.0 one05:43
[Flux] ouch...05:43
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[Flux] i just switched over to kubuntu from ubuntu, and im loving kde again05:43
MaxdamantusKDE > GNOME05:44
houdinizeThe 3 functions i need in Beryl: (1)reverse-color (2)windows-trasparency (3) windows display05:44
[Flux] i went from fluxbox to gnome to kde05:44
[Flux] lol05:44
AmyRoseMaxdamantus: Definitely :D05:44
MaxdamantusI went from KDE to KDE.05:44
[Flux] lol05:44
MaxdamantusI have GNOME though too.05:44
[Flux] i loved fluxbox though05:44
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AmyRosekvirc?!05:44
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[Flux] i use x-chat here, bitchx on my other irc session05:45
MaxdamantusXChat ftw.05:45
[Flux] i love bitchx with cypress script05:45
AmyRosetraitors :P05:45
virii2dcodeI am running the -------> Intel Graphics Media Exelorator 90005:45
[Flux] lol05:45
virii2dcodehow does that cmpare?05:45
[Flux] im gonna go play a game i think05:45
hitmanWillyirssi when im feeling minimalist05:45
MaxdamantusKonversation doesn't seem like a very good multi network interface.05:46
virii2dcodeI agree..05:46
kalorin`the only thing I wish it did that it doesn't for multinetwork is let you hide/close the server tabs05:46
kalorin`otherwise it's really just like xchat which is about as good as I've found05:46
Maxdamantus5 networks, 16 chans atm.05:46
MaxdamantusWhich is about the minimal I ever have.05:47
virii2dcodeits a downgrade from the Underner ; IRC..05:47
kalorin`yeah well if youd idn't have ot have a tba open for each server, that'd be 16 tabs rather than 2105:47
virii2dcodesorry i ment undernet<---05:47
AmyRoseIt works great if you have the tab list on the left05:47
MaxdamantusAmyRose, you mean tree view?05:48
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AmyRoseMaxdamantus: Yeah, something like that05:48
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MaxdamantusYea, more organised.05:48
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kalorin`I prefer them on top to be honest05:53
kalorin`but I only follow about 6 channels05:53
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kalorin`it's a lot of realestate to put them on the side unless you're talking a ton of channels, then I coudl see it making some sense05:53
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DruntarHello folks05:57
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DruntarOk here's the issue05:57
DruntarI have a logitech g5 laser mouse05:58
Druntarwhen I boot into kubuntu 7.04 the mouse will work for a short while then just stop05:58
DruntarI've been all over the net but all I can find are guides to make the extra buttons work05:58
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MaxdamantusDruntar, tried vim?05:59
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MaxdamantusI think that's what it's called.05:59
DruntarI only got kubuntu installed this morning so I'm totally a newb05:59
MaxdamantusThen xmodmap them.05:59
DruntarI don't care if the buttons work05:59
DruntarI just want the mouse to stop locking up05:59
K-RyanAnother turned to Kubuntu *score*05:59
K-RyanAlright, that'll make me try to help.05:59
Druntarlol05:59
K-RyanAre you using a different mouse right now?06:00
K-RyanOr cleverly using your keyboard?06:00
Druntarno I'm in my vista partition since I'm not done moving stuff over yet06:00
cWolfeDruntar, tell us the output of this "  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver  "  whothout the quotes06:00
DruntarI know how to cleverly use my keyboard though06:00
K-RyanAh alright, so the mouse does work.06:00
MaxdamantusMoving ftl.06:00
K-RyanTry what cWolfe said06:00
Druntarin vista yeah no problems06:00
Maxdamantusnfs-3g can read+write ntfs btw.06:00
Druntarok I'll brb going to reboot into kubuntu06:00
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Maxdamantusntfs-3g*06:01
K-RyanI'm so bored right now, I've run out of things to setup on Kubuntu and winbloze doesn't start up consistantly.06:02
K-RyanRecommendations?06:02
K-Ryan=)06:03
kalorin`for how to fix windows?06:03
K-RyanNah, I can deal with that06:03
kalorin`ah06:03
cWolfeuh, i just installed hydrogen, its a drum machine06:03
kalorin`um...06:03
kalorin`nope not really06:03
cWolfeyou can play gltron or some other game06:03
kalorin`figure me out a way to run photoshop3 natively? :)06:03
K-RyanEh...06:03
kalorin`that'll take a few hours06:03
cWolfelol06:03
cWolfeyou mean CS306:03
kalorin`yeah06:03
kalorin`that's the one I mean06:04
cWolfedoes CS or CS@ even run in wine yet?06:04
kalorin`might have to get a mac mini to do that or something06:04
cWolfes/CS@/CS306:04
kalorin`I think cs does06:04
kalorin`not sure about 3 or 206:04
kalorin`wine is so slow though :(06:04
kalorin`faster to run it in vmware (free) and rdesktop to it and use it that way06:04
MaxdamantusLol. Try vmware.06:04
cWolfehas anyone tried pizel32, its supposed to be close to photoshop06:04
cWolfesorry - its pixel3206:04
MaxdamantusI use vmware for Flash 8.06:04
kalorin`really, have to go look06:05
cWolfevmware is agreat thing06:05
cWolfeCS2 wasnt running well in the vmachine for me though06:05
kalorin`that looks pretty good06:06
MaxdamantusWhat OS?06:06
kalorin`cWolfe: elements runs fine for me on XP in a vmware06:06
cWolfein vmware? winxp06:06
MaxdamantusXP Pro runs fine for me in vmware.06:06
kalorin`but don't use the vmware server console, rdesktop in06:06
kalorin`it's a lot faster06:06
MaxdamantusTurn off the Windows XP skin if you have it on.06:06
MaxdamantusIncreases performance.06:06
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marccollinhi06:07
MaxdamantusI have vmware running in the bg atm.06:07
cWolfethanks for the tips kalorin  and Maxdamantus06:07
marccollini click on install...... now i see the kubuntu login...... what is the username, password?06:07
Druntarok cWolfe ran that line you gave me06:08
Druntarcame back with no such file or directory06:08
cWolfe/etc/X11/ doesnt exist?06:08
cWolfethats unpossible06:08
Druntarthat's what it says06:08
Druntarfeed me the line again06:09
kalorin`that pixel looks promosing06:09
kalorin`promising06:09
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Druntarmaybe I typed something wrong06:09
cWolfe cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver06:09
K-Ryanmarccollin, you mean when you are installing?06:09
K-RyanThat's for you, you put in what you want your account name and password to be.06:09
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kalorin`I suspect i'll use cs3 just because all the tips and tricks are using that and it's hard sometimes to translate that into other tools that might not have the same featuers06:09
MaxdamantusDruntar, why not stay on Linux, it's on the mouse that's not working.06:10
kalorin`but this is worth a look for sure06:10
K-Ryan!conquest-gl06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about conquest-gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
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kalorin`yeah dual boot days are gone06:10
kalorin`never do that again06:10
K-RyanHmm, he usually knows about the packages06:10
DruntarI'm back in linux now06:10
kalorin`oh I want to run this.reboot!06:10
kalorin`now that, reboot!06:10
kalorin`lame06:10
MaxdamantusTurn on mouse keys.06:10
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marccollinya, K-Ryan06:11
kalorin`hitman, i'm not brave enough yet06:11
kalorin`got a nano last night06:11
K-RyanYeah, that's just what you want to use. Not some password that you need.06:11
Druntar        Driver          "kbd"06:11
Druntar        Driver          "mouse"06:11
Druntar        Driver          "wacom"06:11
Druntar        Driver          "wacom"06:11
Druntar        Driver          "wacom"06:11
Druntar        Driver          "nv"06:11
kalorin`I want to start using it but right now tit's the wifes06:11
Druntarthat's what it fed me06:11
kalorin`cause hers is dead an shes doing a marathon relay tomorrow06:11
MaxdamantusControl Centre > Peripherals > Mouse > Mouse Navigation06:11
cWolfeokay druntar are you okay with editing files and such06:11
Druntarumm if you're willing to go slow06:11
cWolfeokay06:12
Druntarusing linux for 3 days now06:12
hitmanWillybelieve it or not, the steaming pile that is vista is what finally made me say goodbye forever06:12
K-RyanEveryone starts soemwhere, it's alright06:12
K-Ryan*somewhere06:12
Druntarsame here himanWilly06:12
K-RyanI can't convince myself to go full time Kubuntu06:12
K-RyanI game too much06:12
cWolfedo this 1st:   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak06:12
hitmanWillyluckily for me, most of the games i play have nix versions06:13
K-RyanI wish I could say the same06:13
killermach_K-Ryan: why can't you game in kubuntu?06:13
MaxdamantusK-Ryan, how much RAM do you have?06:13
Druntaranother thing I find that if I turn the mouse down to 400dpi (hardware button) and move it real slow it lasts longer before locking up06:13
K-Ryan512MB06:13
cWolfethen i want you to edit the mouse driver to use "evdev" instead of "mouse"06:13
biovoresame here.. I plau UT2k4 almost exclusivly :P06:13
Maxdamantus:S06:13
K-RyanBeen upgrading my computer here and there06:13
K-RyanIt's 6 years old now06:13
MaxdamantusIf you doubled that, you could run Linux with 512 and Windows with 512 at the same time.06:14
K-Ryan1.8Ghz processor and that's what really kills me.06:14
hitmanWillydoom 3, quake 4, ut 04, etc.06:14
killermach_K-Ryan: oh..  you mean kubuntu vs winxp, I was thinking kde vs gnome06:14
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K-RyanNuh uh =P06:14
K-RyanI've only got enough room for 512 Maxdamantus06:14
Maxdamantus:S06:14
MaxdamantusWhat do you mean by enough room?06:14
marccollinwhy kubuntu ask me a password and never ask me to enter it?06:14
K-RyanI don't mind it though06:14
K-RyanRam slots06:15
Druntarok cwolfe says permission denied06:15
hitmanWillyolder mobo, probably06:15
Maxdamantusmarccollin, when Linux asks you for a password in a terminal, it won't display anything while you type it.06:15
cWolfeoh, sorry Druntar06:15
K-RyanIt is, 6 years by now06:15
cWolfeyou need to sudo before it06:15
MaxdamantusThe STDIN isn't shown while you enter it.06:15
K-RyanDruntar, sudo before everything unless noted otherwise06:15
cWolfelike this:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak06:15
Druntarok06:16
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Druntarok did it and it asked for password so I used mine and it went back to a blank line06:16
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cWolfethats normal Druntar06:17
K-RyanYeah06:17
Druntarok just making sure lol06:17
Druntarnext06:17
K-RyanThat means the command was carried out, no errors =P06:17
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cWolfeso now Druntar you will "carefully" edit you xorg.conf06:17
nirmalhow do i solve the dependency libxalan110 probem with virtualbox06:17
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kalorin`oh wow06:17
kalorin`this pixel is REALLY very good06:18
DruntarO_o......and please tell me you're going to tell me how to do that.06:18
kalorin`even loads adobe digital negatives06:18
cWolfeyou can kate if your in kde:  sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:18
K-RyanDruntar I'm sure he'll walk you through it06:18
cWolfeor vim otherwise:  sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:18
K-RyanWhat he means though, is edit only what he tells you to and touch nothing else.06:18
TheDebuggernirmal:  sudo apt-get install xalan06:18
Druntarso I need to do the kate thing since I'm in KDE06:18
nirmaloki06:18
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K-Ryanyeah its sudo kate <line>06:19
cWolfeyeah, i wasnt sure if your mouse is working now, or if you were in a repair terminal06:19
K-Ryani always forget the path to xorg06:19
Druntarit's working right now06:19
kalorin`heh06:19
K-RyanHasn't cut out yet?06:19
kalorin`I crashed pixel!06:19
kalorin`told it to load a canon raw image06:20
kalorin`funny06:20
K-RyanThat's strange how it just stops working06:20
kalorin`just *POOF*06:20
Druntarnope I'm alt tabbing and katapalting everything06:20
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cWolfepixel doesnt do raw?  :(  does it do .nef?06:20
Druntarlike I said if I keep the dpi down and move it realllllly slow it lasts longer06:20
Druntarbut it will go out06:20
cWolfedruntar do the kate thing then, not the vim one then06:20
Druntarkate is open with the conf06:21
cWolfeok06:21
kalorin`well it can do it06:21
cWolfefind the mouse section06:21
hitmanWillycWolfe: putting a newbie in vim is not reccomended :)06:21
kalorin`just crashed it for some reason on the other deal06:21
kalorin`not sure06:21
cWolfeyeah, i know06:21
kalorin`hitmanWilly: jump int he deep end, go for the vi06:21
kalorin`vim :)06:21
kalorin`they'll swim or go crying back to windows :)06:21
Druntarlooks like section "inputdevice"06:21
nirmalE: Couldn't find package libxalan11006:21
hitmanWillylol06:21
Druntarnext line is indentifier "configured mouse"06:21
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hitmanWillywhy not emacs then :P06:22
cWolfeyeah, that sit Druntar06:22
nirmal<TheDebugger>^^06:22
Druntarlol06:22
DruntarI'm willing to try VIM06:22
DruntarI'm a quick learner06:22
Druntarlol06:22
cWolfethe line  Driver          "mouse"  should be  Driver          "evdev"06:22
K-RyanWhat's vim?06:22
MaxdamantusVim is a command line based text editor. :P06:22
MaxdamantusNothing like it.06:22
K-RyanOh, I prefer graphical06:23
cWolfenow, i cant garuntee that this will work, but its a better driver06:23
kalorin`ok pixel beta is buggy but shows promise06:23
K-RyanPersonally anyway..06:23
hitmanWillyDruntar: then try it later, just not on anything vital :)06:23
MaxdamantusWell, it's graphical.06:23
kalorin`I'll stick with photoshop06:23
MaxdamantusBut for example, to open something, you do something like06:23
MaxdamantusCtrl + escape06:23
Druntarok so I just hit save and then what?06:23
MaxdamantusO: /some/file.txt06:23
MaxdamantusDunno. Havn't really used it much.06:23
K-RyanOh well, I'm content with kate =)06:23
cWolfevim is easy, i inserts, d deletes, :q! quits, :qw quits and saves  <-- thats the basics06:23
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cWolfeyeah, Druntar hit save, and restart your X06:24
Druntar....restart my what?06:24
Druntarlol06:24
cWolfeeither log out and back in orr hit ctrl-alt-backspace06:24
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K`zanShould I use reiserfs or ext3?06:26
voidmageext306:26
voidmagereiser killed someone06:26
voidmage:P06:26
nirmalhow do i solve the dependency prob libxalan110 for the package virtualbox06:26
voidmagereiser is good if you have lots and lots of small files06:26
radeuxIsn't reiserfs faster?06:26
radeuxI just installed Kubuntu with it.06:26
voidmagebut i wouldn't use it if you have one partition06:26
voidmagei don'tthink grub works on it06:26
K-Ryannirmal, what do you mean? It's missing a dependency?06:26
K-Ryansudo apt-get install libxalan11006:27
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radeuxGRUB works just fine with it.06:27
K`zanvoidmage: LOL, I've got reiser on this box, putting together a 7.04 for my roomie ...06:27
radeuxYeah I have no problem with reiserfs and GRUB...06:27
hitmanWillyvoidmage: grub works just fine with reiser06:27
voidmagei'm thinking of xfs06:27
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voidmageBUT REISER KILLED SOMEONE06:27
voidmageAND i"M NOT HERE NOW06:27
K`zanOK, I'll stick with ext3, that has been good over the years...06:28
radeuxProbably because they tried to change file types.06:28
radeuxThat usually kills a reiser user.06:28
radeuxYaaaay. My firefox is done installing.06:28
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radeuxSo does anyone know if apt-get has installation files for Cedega?06:29
radeuxOr, cedega CVS?06:29
AmyRoseKonqueror > Firefox06:29
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radeuxI just want to play Windows games.06:29
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AmyRoseLinux is not designed to play Windows games. Don't expect them to work.06:30
radeuxWell yeah.06:30
radeuxBut I kind of have no choice.06:30
sep1318i don't think cedega is in the repos. simple way to find out: search. :)06:30
radeuxThat's the thing.06:30
hitmanWillyradeux: cedega's sortta proprietary, the cvs source doesn't really work06:30
stratman4300i think you have to get the .deb files from transgaming.com06:31
radeuxHow do you know what kind of stuff apt-get gives you.06:31
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biovorecedega is a commerical product.. cost money06:31
kalorin`cedega isn't free06:31
stratman4300i would try wine   :)06:31
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radeuxThere's a CVS version that's free.06:31
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radeuxBut I tried it on a bunch of distros and never worked.06:31
kalorin`radeux -> try adept package manager from the utilities area06:31
hitmanWillyradeux: yeah, but its missing stuff06:31
radeuxI just want to play Warcraft III.06:31
radeuxHaha.06:31
biovoretrue.. but the CVS is only the OpenSource stuff.. no close source stuff in it like Direct X emulation..06:31
leohi everybody!06:32
radeuxHello~06:32
cWolfehi leo06:32
stratman4300I know Warcraft 3 is supported by wine06:32
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hitmanWillyradeux: i think that works in wine iirc06:32
radeuxThen I guess I'll just get Wine then.06:32
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stratman4300runs pretty decently in my experience06:32
Druntarhey guys06:32
MaxdamantusIf you run vmware player, in KDM, it opens a session for it.06:32
Druntarproblem06:32
cWolfehey druntar06:32
Druntarlinux won't boot06:32
cWolfe:(06:32
Druntarshows kubuntu splash06:33
MaxdamantusIf I press ctrl + alt + f9 right now, it goes to full screen Windows XP.06:33
Druntarthen cuts back to it then gives me a blank command line06:33
radeuxSo how do you know if apt-get has what kind of stuff they have?06:33
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MaxdamantusDruntar, does it say anything on the command line?06:33
cWolfeget to recovery console, and you can sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:33
Druntarnope06:33
radeuxOr maybe I'll just get vmware instead.06:33
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Druntarok thanx cwolfe06:33
Maxdamantusvmware ftw.06:33
Druntarwe'll try again here in a sec06:34
Druntarbrb06:34
MaxdamantusWait.06:34
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MaxdamantusIf that doesn't work, boot back into Windows.06:34
stratman4300question about vmware....   i know there is a free player, but does that let you setup virtual machines???06:34
abortdhow can i find out if my opengl is working properly?06:34
MaxdamantusYou can get some ext3 driver to use on Windows.06:34
cWolfeDruntar,06:34
MaxdamantusThen back it up with that.06:34
sep1318radeux: i'd go for wine. in adept manager there's a search field where you can just type wine or w/e, and it'll come up with the related packages06:34
lclhstfree doesn't let you install servers06:34
lclhster, player06:34
biovorestratman4300: just install the vmware-server.. its free06:34
radeuxAlright, thanks sep.06:34
lclhstonly the server06:34
kalorin`use the free server06:34
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kalorin`and yes it does06:34
kalorin`also there's other things like vbosx06:35
kalorin`vbox06:35
stratman4300alrighty.... thanks06:35
lclhsteeeek, vbox06:35
kalorin`I use vmware cause that's what we use at work so I figured I'd play iwth it06:35
lclhstthe ugly step sister06:35
cWolfesudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf    is what i should have typed06:35
MaxdamantusWhat exactly is vmware-server?06:35
kalorin`it's the server06:35
MaxdamantusIs it like the equivalent of Xorg?06:35
kalorin`allows you to set up and install vmware images06:35
MaxdamantusOh.06:35
cWolfevmware server doesnt need X06:35
kalorin`little window app that lets you say this box get these options06:36
cWolfeplayer does06:36
kalorin`ok boot it06:36
kalorin`and so on06:36
cWolfeserver you need a liscence06:36
kalorin`license is free, register for email06:36
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lclhstanyone here played with freenx/nomachine?06:36
kalorin`vmware.com -> products -> free virtualization tools06:36
kalorin`I've heard tell though that the real shiznatz is xen06:36
kalorin`but it wouldn't be so easy to do what I want to do with xen I think06:37
lclhstxen is a complete hoser to install06:37
kalorin`or maybe it iwll06:37
cWolfeyeah, unisys is getting sexy with Xen06:37
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Druntaryay06:37
Druntarback in linux06:37
kalorin`yeah but preformance is great iwth xen I understand06:37
cWolfegood06:37
kalorin`ok nighty06:37
cWolfebut we never solved your problem06:37
Druntarquestion is adept supposed to ask for my password everytime I log in?06:37
Druntarwell I think I may have accidentally messed it up I'm going to try it again06:38
cWolfeevery time you use it: yes, every time you log in: no...06:38
Druntarwell when I log in it automatically pops up06:38
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MaxdamantusYou probably had some root apps open.06:38
Druntarok so open konsole06:38
MaxdamantusIf you were running something as root, it will ask for the password on startup to open it again.06:38
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Druntarsays run as root adept_updater '-session' '1010e1a71ba1b7'06:39
stratman4300if a new nvidia-glx package is installed do i have to recompike the driver as well???06:40
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sep1318stratman4300: i don't think so, since that essentially IS the new driver....06:41
sep1318tho i could be wrong06:41
stratman4300thats what i figured too06:41
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stratman4300wasn't entirely sure though  :P  guess i'll find out06:41
sep1318hehe yeah06:41
radeuxSo uhh.06:41
radeuxTrying to install flash here.06:41
radeuxtarball or rpm?06:41
Druntarok resaved the backup of xorg.conf06:42
crimsunwhy not use the flashplugin-nonfree package in the repositories?06:42
crimsun^ radeux06:42
stratman4300you have an x86 system or amd64???06:42
nirmal<K-Ryan>: its  a missing dependency and with apt i get error E:Could not find package libxalan11006:42
radeuxamd6406:42
crimsunradeux: there's no Flash 9 plugin for amd64.06:42
K-Ryannirmal you have your repositories opened right?06:42
Druntarredid the changes to xorg.conf making sure to not alter anything other then that one line. Question how do I know if I even have evdev installed to use it?06:42
DaSkreechHi crimsun06:42
radeuxI'm having problems with Adept Manager.06:42
nirmalin the sourcelist06:42
radeuxAdept manager doesn't let me install anything.06:42
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stratman4300if you want the commecial plugins like adobe flash you'll have to use a 32 bit version of firefox06:42
DaSkreechOr do a chroot06:43
K-RyanYes nirmal06:43
radeuxHmm.06:43
Druntarcwolfe you still alive?06:43
radeuxWell can I get the free flash through apt-get?06:43
stratman4300https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28java%29%7C%28amd64%2906:43
stratman4300try that link06:43
stratman4300good instructions06:43
radeuxOkay.06:43
stratman4300don't have to setup a chroot either06:43
nirmalshould i need to open them all06:43
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Druntarok I relogged06:45
Druntarand no problems06:45
Druntarhow do I know if it's using the right driver now?06:45
b0rthello all06:45
K-RyanHello b0rt06:45
K-Ryannirmal I'm not sure what that package is in06:45
K-Ryanhold on and i'll see if I can figure it out06:46
Druntarok says xorg.conf is now using evdev as mouse driver06:46
Druntarguess I just take it for a test drive and see if it locks up?06:46
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DruntarOk, took it up to 2000dpi and it locked again06:48
Druntarusing the evdev driver06:48
K-Ryannirmal it's in the universe repository06:48
nirmalactually when i update it i never get anything06:48
K-Ryanhave you done a sudo apt-get update?06:48
nirmalnow the universe packages are getting updated06:48
nirmali have opened them06:48
K-Ryanor the Adept equivalent06:48
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: No being bored would be downloading a BeOS R4 image broken up into floppy size bites06:49
DruntarIs anyone still with me on this?06:49
hitmanWillylol06:49
K-RyanDruntar I'm listening, just it's beyond my help06:49
Druntarlol ok06:49
Druntarwonder what happened to wolfe06:49
K-RyanI know bits and pieces, I'm rather new to Kubuntu and Linux in general06:49
hitmanWillyDruntar: it sounds like the mouse input is building up in the buffer and not being flushed properly06:50
K-RyanI haven't done anything super duper advanced but I know the basics and that's what a lot of people need help with so I stick around06:50
sep1318I'm with you, K-Ryan06:50
K-RyanLike what hitmanWilly said, I wouldn't be able to figure that out or tell you how to fix it06:50
DruntarhitmanWilly you're speaking greek man06:50
K-Ryan;)06:50
Druntar<-----wishes he was a super user06:50
Druntar:(06:51
K-RyanFrom what I gather, your mouse is issuing too many commands and it's kind of getting backed up.06:51
K-RyanIn simpler terms06:51
Druntarthat makes sense06:51
K-RyanAm I right hitmanWilly?06:51
hitmanWillymore or less06:51
K-Ryan*score*06:51
Druntarany ideas on how to fix it?06:51
K-RyanThat was my next question =)06:51
K-RyanHmm06:51
K-Ryan!logitech06:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
hitmanWillynormally that should get flushed, but it seems the driver is doing a really bad job of it06:51
K-RyanOh well, always worth a shot...06:52
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Druntar.....:*(06:52
DruntarI love this mouse06:52
DruntarI don't want to lose it06:52
K`zanInteresting, both fat16 and fat32 filesystem formats fail under 7.04 :-(06:52
K-RyanDon't worry Druntar, there's definitely a way to use it.06:52
hitmanWillyDruntar: try taking the dpi down to a more reasonable level, ie 200006:52
K-RyanhitmanWilly, I think you need to simplify that a bit06:53
Druntarit's highest is 200006:53
K-RyanOh, guess not06:53
Druntarlowest is 40006:53
K-RyanI don't know what that is =)06:53
hitmanWillyDruntar: try the lowest and work from there06:53
Druntarit has hardware buttons that switch between 2000, 800, and 40006:53
K-RyanDon't mind me, continue06:53
Druntarin 2000 it locks almost instanly06:53
Druntarin 400 it's ok if I move really slow06:54
sep1318try 8?06:54
nirmal<K-Ryan>: it solved the prob06:54
Druntardot per inch06:54
K`zanTakes for bloody ever to scan the disk too, sigh...06:54
K-Ryannirmal: Glad to hear06:54
hitmanWillyDruntar: honestly, fixing this is a little beyond me, but at least you know where the problem is...06:54
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DruntarK-Ryan it's ok man I didn't know it either till I got into FPS games and realized it had an effect on my game06:54
nirmalthanks for the help06:54
leoim new to kubuntu (and linux), just a few days.... but im loving it!06:54
K-RyanWouldn't it just be more of a sensitivity kind of thing?06:55
DruntarI wonder if evdev is using different default dpis for the mouse06:55
Druntarthat could be the problem06:55
sep1318K-Ryan: resolution of the mouse camera is proportional to how accurate/sensitive it can be. like the details you can pick out from a digital image06:55
K-Ryanleo, what's up? questions? problems?06:55
sep1318(methinx)06:55
Druntarit effects response time from when you move the mouse to motion in the cursor06:55
hitmanWillyDruntar: my creative fatal1ty worked fine and it went up to like 240006:55
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K-RyanResponse time? I've never had a mouse that lagged.06:56
leoK-Ryan, no problems by now, thanks.. just reading and learning... installing beryl right now.. so excited!06:56
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Druntarguess I'll be using windows a bit longer then......I need it for school.06:56
Druntarit's response time and precision06:56
K-RyanAlright leo, if you have any questions feel free to ask, someone is bound to be able to help.06:56
Druntarsep1318 hit it pretty much on the nose06:56
sep1318:) thnx.06:57
Druntaryeah beryl's not working for me :(06:57
sep1318have you tried using another driver or mouse?06:57
leoK-Ryan: thank you very much06:57
DruntarI'm having all kinds of issues06:57
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K-RyanI understand the precision, but the response time part sounds strange to me. Go figure06:57
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: it has to do with how fast your mouse moves06:57
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K-RyanYes, sensitivity, no?06:57
DaSkreechleo, K-Ryan : welcome!!06:57
hitmanWillyat 1200 dpi, it moves twice as fast as 600, etc06:57
Druntarhell it took me 2 days to install kubuntu and this comp isn't 3 months old06:58
sep1318wow.06:58
leoDasSkreech, thanks!06:58
K-RyanYes, so it increases the sensitivity doesn't it?06:58
sep1318congrats for sticking with it, Druntar06:58
K-RyanDaSkreech, welcome?06:58
K`zanI may be waiting that long for it to scan the disks :)06:58
DruntarI WANT LINUX06:58
DaSkreechK-Ryan: to Linux and Kubuntu06:58
Druntarbut need windows for school right now :(06:58
K-RyanYou've got the wrong guy =P06:58
K-RyanBut thanks =)06:59
DaSkreechDruntar: Depends on how stubborn you are you can probably get away with Linux :)06:59
DaSkreechDruntar: Dual boot is an option06:59
Druntarlol this is true hold on let me try something06:59
K-RyanThat's what I do06:59
Druntarhow do I log out without a mouse?06:59
K-RyanErm06:59
MaxdamantusWhy do you need Windows?06:59
K-Ryanctrl+alt+delete06:59
DruntarI go to university of phoenix online06:59
MaxdamantusDruntar.06:59
Druntarduh06:59
K-Ryanthen select restart/shutdown06:59
DaSkreechDruntar: where are you now?06:59
DaSkreechOh log OUT07:00
DaSkreechalt+F107:00
K-RyanOh, log out...07:00
Druntarsorry K-Ryan my brain went stupid it's late07:00
MaxdamantusNext time you boot up, Control Centre > Peripherals > Mouse > Mouse navigation.07:00
MaxdamantusEnable mouse keys. :P07:00
MaxdamantusOh, actually, wait.07:00
K-RyanWait never mind, you can do that in that menu too07:00
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K-RyanIt's alright Druntar07:00
MaxdamantusBefore you go, try "sudo cat /dev/mice"07:00
Druntarwaiting....07:00
Druntarok one sec07:00
MaxdamantusAnd see if it outputs anything while you move the mouse.07:01
Druntarthank god someone taught me how to use katapault07:01
MaxdamantusThat will make you aware if it's the Kernel, or X.07:01
K-RyanHaha07:01
DaSkreechDruntar: Whooot07:01
K`zanok lets see if it makes it through partitioning without using fat16 or 32 for one of the partitions...07:01
K-RyanIt never really caught on with me.07:01
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DaSkreechMight want to look at yakuake as well07:01
K-RyanI like going into menus and stuff07:01
MaxdamantusSorry, "sudo cat /dev/input/mice"07:01
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sep1318yakuake is very very handy07:02
Druntarwhen you have no mouse07:02
K-RyanYeah I know =P07:02
Druntaryou use katapault07:02
Druntarlol07:02
sep1318hehe yeah. or shortcuts to menus07:02
K-RyanI mean if I needed faster access to stuff or really did a lot more with Kubuntu, I'd probably use it07:02
Druntarok did that line and moved the mouse and nothing happened07:02
K-RyanBut everything is within reach for the msot part07:02
DaSkreechmy mouse is waaaaaayyyy -----------------------> over there07:03
K-RyanWell it's getting a bit late and I have to get up early too.07:03
K`zanI sure hope the rest goes faster than this partitioning, been at it for a couple hours now...07:03
DaSkreechK-Ryan: Hope to see you around man07:03
K-RyanI'll catch you guys later, good luck with your mouse Druntar.07:03
Druntarlater K-Ryan07:03
DaSkreech(assumes K-Ryan is a man)07:03
K-RyanYeah I am =P07:04
MaxdamantusOk, It must be the kernel then.07:04
DaSkreech:-)07:04
K-RyanAlright, see ya'07:04
MaxdamantusSo it hasn't closed cat?07:04
Druntarjust gave me a blank command line07:04
MaxdamantusIf it says something like user@localhost:/$ then it's closed it.07:04
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Druntarmouse isn't working right now though07:04
Druntarshould I log out and back in to get the mouse working then try it?07:05
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MaxdamantusIf you want.07:05
MaxdamantusBrb07:05
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K`zanMethinketh that 80G drive is going west, making a hell of a racket formatting...07:05
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Druntarok logging out and back in doesn't fix it07:06
Druntarso I'm looking at another reboot07:06
Druntarto get the mouse responding at all again07:06
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MaxdamantusYea, it'll be with the kernel then.07:07
MaxdamantusNot sure if the drivers go before X, or after it.07:07
Druntarok what does that mean?07:07
DaSkreechMaxdamantus: Drivers would have to go before *07:08
DaSkreechsoftware can't use hardware if it has no clue how to talk to it07:08
leowow! Beryls is amazing! :D How do I rotate the cube in 3D???07:08
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crimsunctrl+alt+left arrow or ctrl+alt+right arrow07:09
sep1318Druntar: methinx it means that there's a problem with the driver, or with the kernel module that the driver is part of.07:09
crimsunyou can customise it07:09
DaSkreechleo: alt+ctrl+arrow keys07:09
MaxdamantusDaSkreech, is /dev/input/mice outputted from the driver, or the signals recieved through the ps/2 or wherever it's coming from?07:09
DaSkreechMaxdamantus: It should be a sim link see where it's pointing to07:10
leothanks DaSkreech and crimsum07:10
MaxdamantusNo, /dev/input/mice is raw mouse actions.07:10
MaxdamantusTry it.07:10
DaSkreechOh wait.. yeah07:10
MaxdamantusYou can understand how it reads it.07:10
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MaxdamantusAre they raw signals inputted from the device, or computed mouse actions?07:11
MaxdamantusI'll try watching it with my serial mouse.07:11
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MaxdamantusLater.07:11
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Druntarso yeah I guess I'm just left with no mouse for now07:13
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Druntarwell I'm heading back to windows for a bit have a project due tonight07:13
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DaSkreech!find exercise07:16
Druntarhey guys07:16
Druntarback from windows07:16
ubotuPackage/file exercise does not exist in feisty07:16
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DaSkreechWaht?07:16
DaSkreechWhy do you need windows?07:17
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K`zanLooks like that drive may well indeed be bad, swapped it out for another and re-starting the install...07:17
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Druntarbecause my mouse works there and I have online classes that have projects due 2 days ago but I put off because I was trying to get linux to work07:18
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DruntarI'll have to coem back to linux once I turn this in07:19
DruntarI'll still be in here chatting though07:19
DruntarI haven't had the chance to get my windows stuff moved to my linux part yet07:20
Druntarand class work is over here still07:20
sep1318good luck with that, Druntar07:20
DaSkreech!search exercise07:21
ubotuFound:07:21
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DaSkreechDruntar: You can just mount your windows partition07:21
sep1318that's not his rpoblem. his problem is his mouse.07:22
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Druntarsee sep1318 understands me lol ;)07:22
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sep1318i try :)07:23
rudefyetanyone know what font the default monospace font in kubuntu is linked to?07:23
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DaSkreech!info gdeskcal07:24
ubotugdeskcal: A desktop calendar featuring transparency with smooth alpha-blending. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.57.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 176 kB, installed size 1412 kB07:24
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crimsunrudefyet: DejaVu Sans Mono IIRC07:27
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leoI've just installed Beryl... how many desktop should i set up? 6?07:28
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sep1318leo: depends on how many you think ou need. i've only had 4. you can alwaus change th number07:30
Druntarok going back to linux brb07:31
leosep1318, ok, but each face of the cube isnt a desktop?07:31
Maxdamantus20.07:31
MaxdamantusYes, it is.07:31
MaxdamantusIf you have 6 desktops, it will be a hexagon.07:31
sep1318exactly07:31
MaxdamantusIf you have 10, it will be a decahedron.07:31
leoso, why do i have 24 right now? :S07:31
MaxdamantusWith 12, a dodechahedron.07:31
MaxdamantusAnd so forth.07:31
MaxdamantusOr however you spell it.07:31
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K`zanPartitioning works much better with a good drive :).07:32
MaxdamantusWait, no, a dodecahedron is 20 10 sided shapes isn't it?07:32
leoyou mean i'll have as many faces as the number of desktops i set?07:32
MaxdamantusYes, you will.07:32
sep1318leo: you set up 6 desktops for each of your 4 defaults......beryl cubes work wierd like that.07:33
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leoohh, ok, i understand now07:33
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leosep1318, so, for each face of the cube i have 6 desktops?07:33
MaxdamantusI use 4 desktops, beryl is laggy on my card.07:33
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sep1318no, leo. 1 face/desktop.07:34
sep1318but you had four desktops before beryl, no? and then you set up the cube for 6? so each of the 4 got fractured into 6, = 2407:35
leosep1318, ok, so if i want a simple cube, i should set up 6 desktops?07:35
sep1318no..1.07:37
sep1318thought i'm not exactly sure, now that i think about it. the math with the cubes v the desktops before hand i'm fuzzy on.07:38
sep1318the top and bottom faces usually aren't desktops, i don't think07:39
MaxdamantusWoot! Finally got samba to work writable.07:39
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sep1318or they weren't for me, cuz i only had 4.07:39
MaxdamantusCan run Windows in vm nicely now.07:39
sep1318nice, Maxdamantus07:39
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Druntarlinux hates me07:40
Druntarlol07:40
sep1318awww07:40
sep1318lemme try this again, leo. slowly.07:40
sep1318how many desktops did you ahve before turning beryl on?07:40
Druntarok I'm starting to wonder if I have evdev installed at all because with that change in the xorg.conf linux won't boot07:40
leosep1318, ok, im trying it too07:41
sep1318that would make sense, Druntar.....tho in a bad way.07:41
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sep1318well, leo, my point was to figure out the math first, and then suggest stuffs.07:41
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Druntarwell ok I tried that cat /dev/input/mice command, and it's picking up the mouse now07:41
Druntarwith the mouse working anyway07:42
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sep1318nice.07:42
leosep1318, ok... if i set 6 desktops, it appears 24 on the tray07:42
leoif i set 1, it appears 407:42
Druntarit's setting the number of desktops on each side of the cube07:43
Druntarhow can I find out if I have evdev?07:43
Druntar!evdev07:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about evdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
sep1318it's effectively giving you that number of desktops per desktop, leo07:43
sep1318so I'd go for the 1 -> 4 approach.07:44
Druntarthat will give you 1 desktop on each side of the cube leo07:44
leosep1318, ok, i can only use 4 faces of the cube, no?07:44
Druntarleo what you're changing is the number of desktops per side of the cube07:44
Druntarleo that's correct07:44
leoDruntar, yeah, i get it now07:45
newmais je comprend pas pourquoi sous l auztre session j ai cette lenteur d criture ds tous les programmes07:45
jlillyanyone here running beryl that can help me out? It should take just < 1 min07:45
newet impossible a configurer la vitesse , rien ne change ds la config clavier !07:45
jlillyjust PM me if you can help07:45
new j ai peu etre sans faire expr activ les touches lent quand j ai soulign du texte ds konqueror , la il m a poser une question , voullez vous activ les touches lente et j ai dit oui par erreur07:45
new[07:40]  <new_> c est peut etre cela mais je sais pas comment remettre normal puis ce que  c  est arriv comme ca !07:45
sep1318If you want six cube faces, set the number of desktops in K to 1, and the number of cube desktops in beryl to 607:45
leosep1318, thanks a lot07:45
DruntarCan someone please tell me how to determine if I have evdev in my system?07:45
sep1318np, leo.07:45
sep1318new, !fr07:45
leosep1318, great! :)07:46
sep1318i'm at a loss, Druntar07:46
newpeut etre appluier sur plusieur touche ce qui a activ un racourci mais je sais pas le quel07:46
newnew = pepe07:46
sep1318!french07:46
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:46
Druntarok sep1318 I got one for you07:47
sep1318hit me with it07:47
Druntarhow do I get bereyl to do anything lol07:47
sep1318hehehehhe. what do you mean?07:47
DruntarI installed it but none of the settings changes seem to do anything07:47
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AmyRoseDruntar: You should install beryl-manager and then run it07:48
sep1318are you running beryl-manager?07:48
AmyRoseit will give you a tray icon to control it07:48
leo!spanish07:48
Druntarno I think I got the simplefied kubuntu manager07:48
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sep1318there it is, then. I think it doesn't do much unless you're running it with it's emerald win-manager07:49
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Druntarok opening adept now07:49
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K`zangreat, made it through the install and now no mouse, which was working fine for the install, sigh.  Anything I can do about this?07:50
Druntaror trying to07:50
DruntarK'zan you can join me on the "my mouse doesn't work" bench07:50
K`zanlooks like no usb?!?07:50
sep1318you might already have it if you've got beryl, Druntar07:50
DruntarI grabbed the emerald theme manager is that it?07:51
sep1318yeah, that'll help.07:51
Moistehsup guys07:51
Druntarok I have emerald themer 0.2.1 open07:51
K`zanDruntar: I guess I'll have to, starting to think that going to 6.06 might be a good idea, LOTS of problems with 7.04 :-(07:51
sep1318when you run beryl-manager, make sure the window manager is set to emerald, and you'll be good to go07:51
DruntarI'm completely new to linux imagine how I feel lol07:51
Moistehi just finished making my ubuntu look just like a mac07:52
Moisteh:D07:52
AmyRoseIf you want to use KDE's window themes, you can install aquamarine and use that instead of emerald07:52
K`zanusb core only, oy...07:52
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DruntarI don't think I can because of that stupid simplefied manager I downloaded07:53
A_Awhen i open azureus the splash screen comes up and it loads everything, then the main screen comes up and then dissapears straight away. anyone know y it does that ?07:53
K`zanSerial mouse doesn't work either....07:53
Druntarahhh I failed to get the beryl manager07:53
newyes07:53
newsorry07:53
K`zanAnyone know what it takes to get a usb mouse working with 7.04?07:54
sep1318that'd be the most of your problems, Druntar07:54
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Druntarok my whole screen went white07:54
K`zanSigh, lets try ps2...07:54
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DaSkreech!mouse07:55
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto07:55
don_keep restarting it will find it07:55
K`zanAha, same problem that existed with the beta, USB stuff has to be unplugged and replugged to work, surprised that didn't get fixed before they released this....07:55
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don_ther is a command to scan hardware i cant remember07:56
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K`zanDruntar: If your mouse is USB, try unplugging and re-plugging, looks like USB has real problems in Feisty :-(.07:56
Maxdamantusdon, what do you mean?07:56
Druntarok linux REALLY hates me07:56
sep1318what now?07:56
Druntardid that and it didn't fix it07:57
Druntaropened the beryl manager and my screen went completely white07:57
A_Amy usb mouse works fine in feisty07:57
K`zanDruntar: I think I am going to download 6.06,  Feisty has USB problems on all the machines here...07:57
DruntarK`zan I may just do that myself07:57
K`zanDragging the machine out and unplugging all the USB stuff and plugging it back in every time you boot just SUCKS07:58
sep1318I'm not really sure what to tell you, Druntar. Sorry, man.07:58
DruntarAnyone know why beryl would make my whole screen go white and become nonresponsive?07:58
A_Awhen i open azureus the splash screen comes up and it loads everything, then the main window opens and then dissapears straight away. anyone know y it does that ?07:58
don_Ii had trouble usb, restart   or there is a command to scan hardware i read on a site07:58
K`zan6.06 really worked well, looks like Feisty is just not ready for prime time :-(, at least with USB.07:58
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Druntarhey Maxdamantus that cat /dev/input/mice picks up the mouse when it's working but doesn't when it's not07:59
don_should not have to once it knows07:59
DruntarI was wondering if there was a way to make sure I have evdev on my system07:59
sep1318Druntar: it might be your video card...that's why I can't use beryl, since I only have 32mb of RAM on it...so everything is black since I run out of memory fast.08:00
ubunturosamarok doesn't play audio CDs in 6.06?08:00
don_I dont like resolution08:00
biovoreit should..08:00
K`zanIs there a support channel for Edgy?08:00
Druntarsep1318 that shouldn't be my problem I have dual nvidia 7800 GS vid cards with 526 onboard each08:00
MaxdamantusThis channel if for all.08:00
don_all what?08:01
sep1318ok. just throwin out an idea, Druntar08:01
K`zanMaxdamantus: Are they planning on fixing Feisty's USB problems?  I've had a bug report filed for quite some time and no action on it :-(.08:01
Druntarthe only weak part of this system is that it only has 1 gig of ram08:01
MaxdamantusNo idea, I don't really know much about Ubuntu really.08:01
DaSkreechK`zan: this would be it. Just mention taht you are a using edgy08:01
K`zanAH, OK08:01
MaxdamantusI'm used to all the manual Linux stuff.08:01
DruntarI know sep1318 and I appreciate it08:01
don_join the croud!08:02
MaxdamantusOnly started using Kubuntu so I could use sound. Couldn't get it working on Gentoo.08:02
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don_commands are different08:02
MaxdamantusMost questions people ask here are plain Linux, not Kubuntu in-particular.08:02
K`zanDaSkreech: OK, I'm dumping Feisty, I am NOT going to drag the machine out to unplug and replug every time I boot, bad enough on this box, but it is reasonably easy to drag out.08:02
DruntarWhat is the best distro of linux for hardware recognition?08:02
don_change cards?08:02
sep1318Druntar: see if you can find out (thru adept or so) if ou have xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed08:02
sep1318cuz that's evdev08:03
MaxdamantusDruntar, it's about the drivers.08:03
don_konopix08:03
b0rtdoes any1 know a distro with c++ and/or java ?08:03
DruntarI was thinking maybe I didn't have evdev installed which is why changing it in xorg.conf didn't fix the problem and why I couldn't boot into linux after changing it08:03
b0rtcompiler i meant08:03
don_Knoppix08:03
Maxdamantusb0rt, it's not the distro.08:04
b0rti mean liveCD sorry08:04
b0rtor liveDVD08:04
MaxdamantusC++ is compiled with GCC I believe.08:04
b0rtomg08:04
MaxdamantusAnd Java is only compiled at runtime.08:04
b0rtyea08:04
Druntarok searching for xorg and evdev in adept installer comes up with no responses08:04
b0rtyea interpreter or sth08:04
b0rtsorry my english stinks08:04
sep1318hmm...08:05
b0rtfor liveCD with adept?08:05
b0rti just want the name of the distro live08:05
b0rtwith gcc08:05
ubunturosdamn! kscd isn't playing audio CDs as well :(08:05
sep1318Druntar: cuz i just tried "apt-cache search xserver-xorg-input-evdev" and it says its there.08:05
b0rtxserver-xorg-input-evdev - X.Org X server -- evdev input driver08:06
Druntarok switched to adept manager instead of add remove programs but it crashed on me :(08:06
sep1318ok.08:06
sep1318just run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evdev" in a konsole08:07
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Druntarwell at least the mouse hasn't died yet08:07
sep1318if it's already installed, it won't do anything, and if it isn't, you'll get it.08:07
sep1318good :)08:07
Druntarok adept manager says it's installed08:07
zerozerois ther a command that I can run to flush the dns cache on my local machine?08:08
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Druntarso as long as I don't do anything that requires the mouse to move fast in linux I'm ok08:08
Druntarand if I don't try to make it look the way I want08:08
Druntarlol08:08
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DaSkreechDruntar: you'll probably fix that in a little while :)08:08
lespeahey everybody08:09
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sep1318Druntar: take a look at this? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Logitech_mice_dapper08:09
K`zanGonna try updates before I trash Feisty, not expecting it to work, hasn't on this box :-(.08:09
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zerozeroi would think ifconfig would have something but i don't see a parm for it.08:10
sep1318zerozero: try this? http://www.tech-faq.com/flush-dns.shtml08:11
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sep1318aww08:12
b0rtany liveDVD comes with gcc?08:12
K`zanLooks like PS2 is going to work...08:12
b0rtor a hint/url about creating a liveDVD08:12
Druntarsystem just chose to reboot itself and forced a check on /dev/sda3 which I believe is my swap partition before letting me reboot into linux08:13
sep1318wow.08:13
MaxdamantusDruntar, you can type "mount" in a terminal to see.08:13
Druntarsays it's already mounted on /08:14
MaxdamantusThat's your root partition.08:14
Druntarok08:14
Druntarwell it's been checked now08:14
Druntarlol08:14
MaxdamantusIt has at least the top level file structure.08:14
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MaxdamantusBrb.08:15
DruntarI just wanted to change to a lighter more effiecient OS that I could tweak to look the way I wanted :*(08:15
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Druntarok, I've given up on the mouse issue I'll just keep going real slow with it.08:16
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DaSkreechlespea: Hi08:16
Druntaron to beryl08:16
Druntarwho can tell me why beryl made my screen go white?08:16
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Druntaror help me get it up and runnin08:16
Druntar!beryl08:16
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:16
jay_Timidity sounds "shaky" when I'm using guitar pro 5. Is there nething I can do 2 fix that?08:17
sep1318good call, Druntar. I'm off. good luck with everything.08:17
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zerozerosep1218: thats looked promising but I don't have a file of that name or similar on my machine08:18
zerozeroarg, missed him08:18
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K`zanDo I need some special repository to get just plain mozilla or does that not exist anymore?08:19
DaSkreechRiddell: Png08:19
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don_I08:20
don_It is fire fox now08:20
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scrubbAnybody out there?08:20
don_ya08:21
K`zandon_: Something is firefox now, but I doubt that it is the same as the mozilla my roomie uses...08:21
scrubbI have a somewhat esoteric task...08:21
scrubbI have dual monitors working fine (Nvidia geforce 7900 GS)...08:21
don_I just got done reading about the upgrade to FireFox08:21
scrubbOne is an analog flat panel, the other is an old trinitron CRT08:21
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pacohi08:22
scrubbI'd like to set the refresh rate of the CRT to 75Hz because 60 bugs my eyes...08:22
scrubbBut nvidia-settings won't give me the option...only 60Hz.08:22
don_I just put Fire fox on 7.04 and read that08:22
pacoa question, ive installed ubuntu + beryl and i cant see all the effects but the cube, what can happens???08:22
scrubbCan I force it through xorg.conf or some other means?08:22
pacoanyone know it ?08:23
DaSkreechpaco: How did you install beryl ?08:26
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ubunturosI have mounted NTFS partition, using Live CD of 7.04, but when I try to access it, it shows permission deined?08:26
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ubunturoswhere am I going wrong?08:27
lespeaif you mount a partition manually I believe that you can specify your user id to give yourself access like this08:27
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lespea-ouid[insert user id] 08:27
DaSkreech!ntfs08:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:27
ubunturoslespea: a Live CD wouldn't require it, would it?08:28
Penelhello hello08:28
lespeadunno I've only used the live cd once :/08:28
DaSkreechubunturos: Note the part about write access above!!08:28
ubunturosDaSkreech: ok08:28
lespeaoh; i was under the impression that you couldn't even read from it08:28
DaSkreechubunturos: See !ntfs-3g08:28
pacoDaSkreech ive followed a guide08:29
pacoIve XGL+gnome08:29
pacoand all works ok, all the visual effects but the cube08:29
DaSkreechpaco: oh. You may want to ask in #ubuntu-effects then08:29
lespeaI have a mildy retarded ? -- in konversation how do you import the server list? -- it just shows the ubuntu one right now and no others :(08:29
pacoyes? ok08:29
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DaSkreechlespea: Press F2 i think08:30
DaSkreechor F708:30
ubunturosDaSkreech: but it should read the NTFS without me going through the document08:30
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ubunturosDaSkreech: it isn't even reading the partition !08:31
A_Awhats an equiv to blackdown ?08:31
DaSkreechyou can click on add new and there will be more servers... I think08:31
DaSkreechA_A: Hmm?08:31
DaSkreechubunturos: Yes it shoudl read. What is it doing now?08:31
ubunturosDaSkreech: Permission deined!08:31
lespeahmmm, yeah Das when I go to add new servers it's just blank o_O08:31
ubunturosDaSkreech: is all what it says08:31
lespeacan you report what `cat /etc/mtab` is showing ubunturos?08:32
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scrubbcan anybody help me with my monitor question?08:32
ubunturoslespea: yes, one min08:32
lespeak08:32
DaSkreechubunturos: When you try to do a ls?08:32
ubunturosDaSkreech: yes08:32
DaSkreechah08:33
DaSkreechdid you try a sudo ls ?08:33
ubunturosDaSkreech: no08:33
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ubunturosDaSkreech: ok, sudo ls works, thanks08:33
DaSkreechubunturos: try that and let me know if it works08:33
DaSkreechubunturos: ok unmount the partition08:33
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ubunturosDaSkreech: sudo ls; works08:33
DaSkreechmount it the way you did before08:33
ubunturosDaSkreech: I mounted it using sudo08:34
DaSkreechand add -o umask=0022 to the end of the line08:34
ubunturosDaSkreech: ok08:34
Druntaron on the beryl support forums there is alot of talk about a white screen of death that sounds like what I got08:34
DaSkreechyou should be able to read it as yorself08:34
DaSkreechyourself08:34
ubunturosDaSkreech: umm, ok08:34
DaSkreechWithout having to bother with sudo08:34
Druntartheir workaround is to download 0.2.0 instead of the latest package08:34
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DaSkreechI may note that you CANNOT sudo cd08:34
DaSkreech:)08:34
lespeahmm; dask that's way better than my typically uid=[my user id]  -- why didn't i think about that before?!?!08:35
Druntarproblem is I don't know how to download a previous version08:35
DaSkreechDruntar: used to be a black screen of death08:35
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DaSkreechDruntar: ask in #ubuntu-effects08:35
DaSkreechI think tis something like apt-get install package=versionnumber08:35
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lespeaTo select a particular version of the package, append =<version> to the package name: for instance, aptitude install apt=0.3.1.08:37
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lespea(*note I'm a big advocate of aptitude > apt-get)08:37
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DaSkreechlespea: Sure :)08:38
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Druntarone other quick question how do I get the clock to report in 12 hours intead of 24?08:41
avalon_I'm having trouble with k3b. Everytime I start it, it tells me no mp3 audio decoder detected. I have libmad0 as it suggests, but it's not detecting. What else do I need to install?08:42
DruntarI hate converting military time in my head08:42
lespeadruntar: (r)click on the time and then "Date and Time format"08:42
lespeathen goto time and dates08:42
lespeait's in there08:42
crimsunavalon_: did you install libk3b2-mp3?08:43
lespealol crim you beat me -- guess i shouldn't have typed it all out :P08:43
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crimsunstrike like a ninja.08:46
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Druntarok it says it won't change till I restart the app08:46
avalon_That did it crimson08:46
avalon_sun*08:46
avalon_Thanks08:46
olesjahi @ all08:47
Druntar ok mouse is out again08:47
lespeaDrun you may just have to restart X -- (I'm not sure I've never actually changed that before :O)08:47
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insmodi fixed a problem with laptops not shuting down and posted it -- is there anything else i should do?08:53
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DaSkreechinsmod: pokesomeone in #ubuntu-devel08:54
ubuntuhi08:54
ubuntuCan someone help me !? i really need help !!!!08:55
lespeahey08:55
lespeawhat's the problem?08:55
insmodDaSkreech: will do08:55
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ubuntuHeum , i am new to linux , and i dont know how but my windows is fcu**** so now i cant get on it , but thats not my problem , i have 12 gb of music on my HD08:56
ubuntuHow can i make backup of it and then format my HD and install linux^08:56
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ubuntu(ps : sorry for the bad english i<m french )08:56
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ubuntubecause im running on the live cd right now08:57
pagubuntu, maybe you'd like french channels better?08:57
pag!fr | ubuntu08:57
ubotuubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:57
ubuntuoh thank you!08:57
pagno problem :)08:57
ubuntuBUt if anyone can help me here itll be ok...08:57
ubuntuIm half bilangual XD08:58
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ubuntuso? no ideas?08:59
lespeawell... I have very little experience with the live cd... so I'll just assume that it's layed out like the installed vresion08:59
lespeanext to the "start button" click on the computer icon and then media09:00
pagyou could mount the windows partition, and copy from there. Command is something like: sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mount/windows09:00
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jay_which channel can I go ask about timidity and alsa?09:00
ubuntuok once im in media what should i do lespea^09:01
ubuntu???09:01
lespeado you see any icons in there?09:01
ubuntunop09:02
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lespeaokay, right click on create a folder09:02
lespeaname it whateer09:02
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lespeaoh, wait, does your windows partion take up the whole hard drive?09:03
ubuntuit says access denied to *name of my folder*09:03
ubuntuhummm09:03
ubuntui think so....=(09:03
lespeado you have another hard drive?09:03
ubuntui use to have an external harddrive but i cant find it09:04
lespeado you at least have a dvd burner?09:04
ubuntuif i find it would it be usefull?09:04
stealth47hello there.. help me plz.. can i ask how & where can i install java runtime invironment? tnx..09:04
ubuntuya09:04
ubuntui do09:04
ubuntuand i have DVDS09:04
lespeaokay, well I've never burned in the live cd but it should work09:04
lespeaclick "start" and then multimedia and then k3b09:05
lespealets make sure it starts up first09:05
lespeastealth: 1 sec09:05
pagstealth47, iirc the package is called sun-java6-jre09:05
lespeatnx pag09:05
ubuntuk3b is working09:05
lespeaokay good09:05
stealth47tnx pag.09:05
lespeago back to the media folder and press F409:05
pagstealth47, you welcome :)09:06
lespeathen type sudo mkdir win09:06
ubuntuok , i have a kind of cmd windows09:06
lespeayup09:06
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ubuntuok09:06
ubuntuive typed it09:06
lespeaokay, do you know if you have a serial ata hard drive or ?09:06
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ubuntusata09:06
paglespea, feisty thinks all of them are sata ;)09:06
lespeaoh ... lol thanks09:07
ubuntuxD09:07
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lespeatry typing sudo mount -tntfs /dev/sda1 win09:07
stealth47hey.. i've already download the sun-java6-jre but its rpm file, how can i change it to .deb? cause i used Ubuntu 6.10 tnx.. any suggestions would be appreciated.09:08
Maxdamantus-tntfs?09:08
pagsudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 win  (rebember the space :)09:08
MaxdamantusPut a space between the t and ntfs09:08
ubuntu<<wrong fs type , bad option , bad superbloc ect... >>09:08
lespeatry /dev/sda209:08
ubuntuoh wait i<ll retype it09:08
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lespeaactuall ywait09:08
ubuntuoh09:08
ubuntu?09:08
lespeago `sudo fdisk /dev/sda`09:08
ayandefIf I want to send mail from my website is it enough with postfix or do i need sendmail installed instead?`09:08
lespeathen hit p09:08
MaxdamantusI like "sudo su root"09:09
pagstealth47, do you have Universe (and Multiverse?) reposities enabled?09:09
MaxdamantusMeans I don't have to prefix everything with sudo.09:09
MaxdamantusOr just su root in my case, since I set a pass on root.09:09
lespeayeah... but then eventually you'll do something as root that you'll regret ;)09:09
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MaxdamantusLike what?09:09
ubuntu<< the number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19457 theres is nothing wront with taht , but this is larger tahn >>09:09
ubuntunow i go 2 choices09:09
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lespearm -rf / home/user/dir09:10
MaxdamantusI always have about 1 root terminal and 5 non-roots (at least)09:10
ubuntuoh , no choices sorry09:10
ubuntukk09:10
lespeahmm09:10
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lespeaNO09:10
ubuntuwhat^09:10
ubuntu?09:10
lespeadon't type that in i was talking to max09:10
pagubuntu, no, don't do that rm...09:10
lespealol09:10
MaxdamantusDon't do the rm thing.09:10
ubuntuoh...09:10
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ubuntu2 late09:10
lespeaSORRY09:10
ubuntuXD09:10
lespea:p09:10
ubuntunp09:10
ubuntu:p09:10
ubuntuhaha09:10
ubuntuXD09:10
MaxdamantusDid it delete anything?09:11
lespeahe's using the live cd anyways...09:11
Maxdamantushome shouldn't exist in the directory he's in anyway.09:11
MaxdamantusUnless you're in /09:11
ubuntuso what should i do now masterrr <3 =(09:11
MaxdamantusAnd only root can remove /09:11
stealth47tnx pag. more power..09:11
MaxdamantusI wouldn't try rm -rf / though.09:11
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lespeaheh09:11
lespeaso anyways, type q then enter to leave fdisk09:12
ubuntumi?09:12
Maxdamantus:S This iso is being weird.09:12
lespeayup09:12
MaxdamantusI'll extract everything and make it again.09:12
pagstealth47, if you have them enabled you should be able to install java by doing: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre09:12
ubuntuok , done09:12
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lespeawhat kind of problems are you having with windows?09:13
lespeaout of curiosity09:13
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ubuntulike , 5 min ago , ive tried to install linux but like 5 sec after ive remember that i should back up my music09:13
ubuntuso i cancelled the install and when i go back to windows it says << bad OS ex... >>09:14
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DaSkreech!java09:14
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.09:14
ubuntuand now im kinda sad cuz i dont want to loose all ma music09:14
ubuntuD=09:14
stealth47tnx gap.. it works..09:14
lespeahow far into the install did you get?09:14
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ubuntu....1%?09:15
ubuntubut it was formating my HD before i think09:15
ubuntubut it was still 1%09:15
ubuntuXD09:15
lespeahmm09:15
lespeayeah...09:15
DaSkreechpag: That should break some stuff09:15
lespeawell your partition table is probably gone for good09:15
lespeayou can %try% to fix it...09:16
ubuntu...=(09:16
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lespeado you have your windows disk?09:16
ubuntuno not right now...09:16
don_make it a slave and read from another drive and save your music09:16
ubuntui have some old back ups of my music in dvds but its only 7-8Go im at like 12 - 13 now09:16
pagDaSkreech, pardon? what should break?09:17
lespeawell, if you do get it, you can go into a "repair console" during the initial part of the installer where you can type `fixmbr` and `fixboot` to *maybe* fix it09:17
LinkCanabico don_ second that09:17
DaSkreechpag: Feisty thinking everything is SATA09:17
ubuntummm09:17
ubuntu...09:17
ubuntuthink....ill ... just...09:17
lespeahe'll need recovery software if his partition tables are gone09:17
lespeaplus, he doesn't have another hard drive :(09:17
ubuntuinstall linux and re-dl my 5 go of music...09:18
don_thats what i always do in a mess09:18
ubuntu=/09:18
LinkCanabicoubuntu use a live cd to check if the info is still there09:18
ubuntuim on the live cd...09:18
don_get windows to fixboot09:18
ubuntui dont have it right now09:18
don_at command promt09:18
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ubuntuthank u very much evry1 but i think ill just format all the shiznit and re-dl 4 go of music...09:19
ubuntu=(09:19
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ubuntuBUt hey ! thx evry 1 you rock =D09:19
DaSkreechubuntu: Is it NTFS ?09:19
ubuntuduhhh09:19
ubuntui think09:19
lespeanp... good luck?09:19
ubuntuLOL09:19
ubuntuya :p09:19
ubuntufor sure09:19
DaSkreechHa ha :-P09:19
ubuntuXD09:19
DaSkreech!search recovery09:19
ubotuFound: password, recovery, recovery cd09:19
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lespeai format my partitions in fat16.... i'm nastalgic like that :P09:20
ubuntuXD09:20
ubuntu:P09:20
ubuntuwowwww09:20
DaSkreechThere is a tool thing you can apt-get that might be able to recover it09:20
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ubuntuna im 2 lazy..................09:20
lespeaDaSk.... he doesn't have a backup harddrive -->can those burn from cd to dvd/cd or do you need an external source first?09:21
DaSkreechlespea: Yeah09:21
ubuntuanyway09:21
lespea?09:21
DaSkreechcna someone do an adept search for recovery09:21
DaSkreechI'm on Vista. I'm trying to find the name of the software09:21
ubuntuill be back later to tell u how my kubuntu install have been ??? =/09:22
ubuntuLOL! vista =(09:22
DaSkreechYeah09:22
LinkCanabicopleas no vista LOL good luck09:22
DaSkreechNot my choice09:22
lespeabacula, gddrescue, mondo,09:22
ubuntu*DO NOT WANT*09:22
ubuntuya =(09:22
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ubuntuany linux fan wouldnt install vista...09:22
ubuntui guess09:22
ubuntuLOL09:22
lespeatestdisk09:23
lespeathose are the only relavant ones09:23
don_Vista did nothing to interest me09:23
ubuntuit sucks09:23
ubuntulol09:23
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DaSkreechTestdisk!!09:23
DaSkreechthat was it09:23
don_It seemed slow09:23
ubuntuespcially for gaming , lags evrything because it takes all youre ressource lol09:23
DaSkreech!info testdisk09:23
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB09:23
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DaSkreechthre we go09:23
ubuntuso i should download testdisk^09:24
ubuntu???09:24
don_Needs 1 gig ram to run09:24
DaSkreechapt-get install testdisk09:24
lespeagddrescue - the GNU data recovery tool09:24
lespeathat one bad?09:24
ubuntucan i download it even if im on the live cd09:24
ubuntu?09:24
lespeaseems more graphically inclined09:24
ubuntu( ya and takes 2 gig to run normally lol )09:24
don_got amother drive?09:24
ubuntufuck no =(09:24
don_another09:25
don_2 dvd09:25
ubuntuyup09:25
don_oh oh09:25
lespeai'm installing both of them right now (testdisk and gddrescue)09:25
ubuntuthx lespea!09:25
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pagubuntu, yes you can install on livecd, but it eats RAM, so watch for packet size09:25
ubuntumy gosh u guys r helpfull !09:26
ubuntu>,<09:26
stealth47hi, can anyone help me, i've installed Chikka V4 on Ubuntu 6.10 but it doest start? should i need to reinstall it?09:26
lespea~2.5 mb unpacked (but i may have had dependencies already installed)09:26
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stealth47 hi, can anyone help me, i've installed Chikka V4 on Ubuntu 6.10 but it doest start? should i need to reinstall it?09:26
ayandefDoes anyone know what I have to have configured in order to send phpmail from my domain?09:26
stealth47 hi, can anyone help me, i've installed Chikka V4 on Ubuntu 6.10 but it doest start? should i need to reinstall it?09:27
pagstealth47, try to start it from terminal (konsole), it might give you some error message09:27
stealth47help me plz09:27
lespeaWOW that testdisk is awesome!09:27
stealth47ok tnx09:27
lespeai've found a new friend :D09:27
ubuntuLOL09:28
ubuntuso i should intall testdisk ^09:28
ubuntu?09:28
pagubuntu, yup :)09:28
LinkCanabicolespea does it work with ntfs?09:28
ubuntukthx ill do it right now!09:28
lespeawell, I don't know if that's gonna allow him to burn the files to a dvd though (without a place to temp store them)09:28
lespeayes link09:28
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pagLinkCanabico, atleast it installs libntfs9 as a depency, so yeah, probably it works09:29
LinkCanabicook Thanks09:29
leohow do i set a wallpaper for each side of the cube?09:30
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lespeawtf... gddrescue is installed but it's not in my path?09:30
lespealol09:30
stealth47hey pag.. ur right, it says i've some dll missing or corrupt, it also says i need to reinstalled it? but its the same, i reinstalled it but nothin's change?09:30
jeanhello09:30
jeani want to change the name of my pc09:31
lespeahello jean09:31
pagstealth47, are you running it through wine?09:31
jeanbut i cant!09:31
stealth47yeah09:31
ubuntuok everything is extracted09:31
stealth47i run it through wine09:31
ubuntudo i run testdisk_win.exe^09:31
ubuntu?09:31
lespeaokay, do you still have that console open?09:31
lespeatestdisk_win.exe?09:31
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ubuntuthats one of the file ive extracted in the win file of testdisk09:32
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ubuntuhum no my console is not open wait09:32
ubuntunow it is09:32
jeanit says "the default gateway ip  adress is invalid"09:32
lespeawait, how did you install testdisk?09:32
ubuntuive download it09:32
lespeaonline?09:33
ubuntuand ive extracted all the file09:33
ubuntuyeah09:33
lespea:/09:33
lespealol09:33
ubuntubut its not installed yed09:33
lespeasorry my bad b409:33
ubuntuYET09:33
ubuntuXD09:33
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don_Where you get it ? I would not mind it09:33
lespeain the command window try this: `sudo aptitude install testdisk`09:33
PolitikerNEUdoes anybody know how I can get metisse running under kubuntu`09:33
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pagstealth47, hmm.. winehq doesn't even find that software.. only thing I can quess, is that you should find those missing .dll's somewhere.09:33
Cnl_Deltatest disk is ok.. didn't save my partition table though09:34
ubuntucouldnt find anay packade whose name or discripion matched test dicsk blah blah blah09:34
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stealth47ok i'll try.. tnx pag09:34
Cnl_Deltasudo aptitude update09:34
Cnl_Deltasudo aptitude install testdisk09:34
jaimshello09:34
Cnl_Deltait works from a livecd too09:34
don_hi09:34
jaimsim trying to upgrade my kubuntu edgy to feisty09:35
lespeacnl - can you go from testdisk to a cd/dvd w/o another hard drive?09:35
don_so?09:35
jaimsin adept_manager, the button 'full upgrade' remains disabled09:35
ubuntuits doesnt work it says it says it doesnt find a file called testdisk09:35
Cnl_Deltaif you got 2 cd drives i think so09:35
ubuntu( the file ive downloaded is called testdsk-6.6 )09:35
lespeaokay, that's what we're trying here :/09:35
don_Get iso09:35
jaimsi think it is because when trying to 'fetch updates' there's a source that fails...09:36
lespeacan you post the url where you got that from?09:36
jaimshttp://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg09:36
don_I got ubuntu upgrade but not Kubuntu ?09:36
ubuntuhttp://files4.majorgeeks.com/files/7dfbfb4a386b98740005488c55f5ccbe/drives/testdisk-6.6.win.zip09:36
lespeajaims: open up konsole (alt+f2 then type it in) and go `sudo apt-get update` to see what's failing09:36
don_It works on ubuntu09:36
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jaimsok09:37
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jaimslespea: thanx09:37
lespeayup09:37
jaimsim gonna try09:37
don_just burn a cd09:37
pagubuntu, you don't have universe enabled, that's why you can't install it through aptitude09:37
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lespeaoh its in universe?09:37
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Cnl_Deltaahh have ya enabled the repositories in the package manager ?09:37
jaimswait09:37
ubuntuuniverse^09:37
ubuntuHOW DO I INSTALL THE UNIVERSE =,(09:37
Cnl_Deltauniversal and multiversal need to be available09:37
jaimsnow the dist upgrade tool seems to work...09:37
don_good09:38
lespeafirst, get a REALLY big hard drive :p09:38
ubuntuloll09:39
lespeaubuntu: type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:39
don_I need to get a list of all thes commands and what they do09:39
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Cnl_Delta5 Gigs is plenty for basic ubuntu09:39
Cnl_Deltauntil you add on media playback09:39
pagubuntu, you don't havee to install *universe*. Universe is just a place, from where you can install packages (so called reposity)09:39
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DaSkreech!universe09:39
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:40
DaSkreechinstall the universe that's pretty good09:40
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lespeaevery line that starts with #dep -- delete the #09:40
ubuntu<< kio (ksycoca) : error : no database available KCrash : aplication kaate crashing >09:40
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ubuntupag : kthx xD09:40
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lespeahmm09:40
lespeatry09:40
lespeaubuntu: type sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list09:40
lespeaotherwise you get to learn how to edit in the command shell :D09:41
ubuntusame error09:41
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paglespea, I think there's also a graphical way :)09:41
lespeais there? :p09:41
LinkCanabicoubuntu use vi09:41
lespeait's <i>usually</i> faster my way ;)09:41
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paglespea, iirc there's option in adept09:42
ubuntu*BRB IN 30 SEC JUST GOTTA GO WUT TIME IT IS *09:42
lespeahmm hold on... i'll check09:42
ubunture09:42
ubuntu4 am here rofl09:42
ubuntufuck im tireddd09:43
paglespea, in adept: adept -> manage repositories09:43
DaSkreech!language09:43
ubuntuthink ill just install kubuntu and re-download a pard of my music guys09:43
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:43
ubuntuXD09:43
jaimsnah09:43
jaimsit gets stuck09:43
jaims'distribution upgrade tool'09:43
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jaimsdownloading file 33 of 45, 99%09:43
ubuntuAnyway09:43
ubuntuthank you evryone!09:43
LinkCanabicoubuntu gl09:44
ubuntuHave a good night [[09:44
ubuntu=D09:44
don_you to09:44
lespea:( yup09:44
LinkCanabicoyou to09:44
lespeagood luck09:44
ubuntuthx for all the help09:44
ubuntuyeah!09:44
ubuntuill be back tomorrow to tell you my story09:44
don_ok09:44
pagjaims, disable 3rd party repo's09:44
ubuntumy name will be : ar53n ( email ar53n@gamerarmy.com ) ciao!09:44
lespeaheh okay09:44
lespealater09:44
lespeawhich file is it failing on?09:45
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jaimsand even worse, /var/lib/apt/lists/lock cant be blocked when i try to sudo apt-get update...09:47
jaims:-(09:48
lespeaoh, do you have the update mangaer open?09:48
jaimsi exited09:48
lespeais anything else open?09:48
jaimsnope!09:48
CugelOkay, I have a question. Is there a (simple) image viewer/editor that has a red eye removal tool? Picasa has it but I like something simpler. Krita and the gimp don't have one.09:48
lespea:/09:48
biovoreps ax | grep apt09:48
jaims:)09:48
jaimsi cancelled the distro update, thats why09:49
lespeaCugel - will a tut for gimp to remove red-eye do?09:49
jaimswarned me that it could get non stable09:49
lespeaah09:49
okapi14hi to all09:49
Cugellespea: I know about that tutorial. In short: no, thanks!09:49
jaimshi09:49
lespealol09:49
biovoreif apt is lock.. you could remove the apt lock file :-P09:50
lespeasry, I just normally use gimp09:50
lespeahey okapi09:50
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jaimsapt-index-watch?09:50
CugelMaybe a plugin for gwenview or something? It seems krita used to have one but it's gone.09:50
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lespeahmm dunno sry09:51
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okapi14I have this error everytime I use Smb4k" Smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)  smbmnt failed:1" Anyone has idea how to fix this?09:52
leoanybody? help about beryl...09:53
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jaimsbye all09:53
biovorerunning nvidia graphics leo?09:53
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leobiovore, yep09:54
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biovoreyou follow the install procedures for everything?09:54
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leobiovore, i've installed beryl and it's working well09:54
biovoreoh ok.. cool09:54
leobiovore, but i dont know how to set different wallpapers on each side of the cube :(09:55
lespeabugel: digikam has a utility to reduce red eye (i just tried it)09:55
lespea*cugel09:55
blekosdoes anybody can help on that msg ror: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found09:55
blekos?09:55
blekoswhat should i install?09:55
lespeajust right click on one of the pics you want to adjust and go edit09:56
lespeait's under the menu fix09:56
biovoreleo: I don't know if you can do that right now..  I have tried as well here, but had no luck..  If it can do it, it might have to do something with the multidesktop check box in beryl menu09:56
pagblekos, may I ask, what are you trying to do?09:56
biovorethere is a desktop integration issue there..09:56
K`zanTrying to run adept and KDEsu will not accept the password, works fine as an su in a terminal - suggestions?  TIA09:56
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CugelYeah just tried digikam. Not the simple image viewer I'd like to use but still.09:57
leobiovore: ok, i'll see if i can find it09:57
lespea?09:57
leobiovore, thanks09:57
lespeawhat's too complicated about it?09:57
lespealack of icons/pictures?09:57
biovoreK`zan: KDEsu uses your user password (you user has to have sudo permissions as well)09:57
blekosi'd like to install kbackup, so i do ./configure09:58
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blekosand get the above message...09:58
K`zanbiovore: doesn't work with *any* valid password :-(.09:58
biovoredid you set a root password?09:58
K`zanIncluding mine :-(.09:58
K`zanbiovore: yes, doesn't work with that one either09:58
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K`zan"Conversation with su failed"09:59
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jaimshi again09:59
jaims:)09:59
K`zanre-install adept?09:59
biovorewell setting a root password sometime breaks things.09:59
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K`zanbiovore: Works fine on this box...09:59
K`zan"sometimes" :-)09:59
biovorewhat is it you tring to run as root?09:59
jaimsthe thing is that http://es.archive.ubuntu.com can't be reached when sudoing apt-get update09:59
K`zanbiovore: adept off the kde menu.09:59
jaimsi guess there are too much people trying to upgrade their systems10:00
biovorehmm intressting..10:00
pagblekos, you need some -dev packages. I don't remember which ones10:00
K`zanWonder if kdesu has problems...10:00
biovorethat should work.  I know setting a root password on some of the older version broke printing and sometimes busted kcontrol pannel access10:00
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lespeablekos: try `sudo aptitude install qt4-dev-tools`10:01
biovoreK`zan: in a shell you can su to root10:01
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K`zanbiovore: Yes, no problem.10:01
biovoreK`zan: then run visudo and check the sudo permissions10:01
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lespeablekos: and also `sudo aptitude install libqt4-dev` (or combine them if you haven't done it already)10:01
stealthhello.. where can i find the global settings? cause i want to automatically detect my printer on the network.. help me plz.. tnx10:02
paglespea, I doubt it's qt4:  "Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0)"  it should be less that qt410:02
biovorehave they put qt4.2 in the repos yet..10:02
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lespeaoh, lol sorry10:02
lespeagood catch pag10:02
blekoswow, this 110 mb10:02
K`zanbiovore: just add the user in question to that?  Works fine for the other user.10:02
pagblekos, maybe libqt3-headers10:02
biovoreK`zan: or user group10:03
blekosi'm allready downling the qt410:03
biovoreI think people in admin can sudo10:03
lespeactr+c10:03
biovoreadd all you administrator users into the admin group10:03
blekoscan i interrupt the download smhow?10:03
lespeactr+c10:03
K`zanbiovore: will see what she has, thanks10:03
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blekosand how i remove the downloaded files?10:03
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lespeaif you aren't really pressed for space don't worry about it ;)10:04
blekosi aint really, but I'd like now...10:04
lespeak... i'll look it up unless somebody knows off the top of their head....10:04
pagblekos, sudo apt-get autoclean10:05
pagiirc :-/10:05
blekoslol10:05
blekosok10:05
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lespeai think it's just clean10:05
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K`zanbiovore: just added her to the admin group - that doesn't work either.10:06
lespeaclean10:07
lespea          clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/. When APT is used as a dselect(8) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space.10:07
lespea       autoclean10:07
lespea          Like clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. The difference is that it only removes package files that can no longer be downloaded, and are largely useless. This allows a cache to be maintained over a long period without it growing out of control. The configuration option APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packages from being erased if it is set to off.10:07
lespeasorry for tabs :/10:07
biovoreK`zan:  you have to log off then log back on for the user group settings to kick in10:07
Cnl_Deltahi, whats the best torrent program for ubuntu10:08
biovorektorrent10:08
paglespea, ok. I'll try to remember that :)10:08
K`zanbiovore: Did that, rebooting to see if that works.10:08
lespeayes, don't use azureaus (sp?) it crashes a lot10:08
Cnl_Deltai'm on ktorrent now..10:08
biovorereboot probably won't make a difference10:08
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ozzi10:09
lespeapag: though, I don't think it's the best idea because then it'll remove Everything... even stuff you may need latre == re-downloading :o10:09
K`zanbiovore: force a reset on everything that way :_10:09
ozzihi all10:09
biovoreK`zan: you can give it a try, but your doing a user level thing.. not a kernel level thing..10:09
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K`zanbiovore: True, but neither one works :-/.10:10
paglespea, that's true, but if somebody asks the command, it's better to give the right one :)10:10
K`zanbiovore: Just going to add her to the file you specified earlier.10:10
biovoreK`zan: well kdesu uses user password (not root)10:10
lespeaagreed; was just sayin10:10
biovoreuses the sudo back end for authentication10:10
blekoshm now i get the following Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check           your installation!10:10
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blekosbut libqt3-mt is installed...10:10
biovoreso if you can't sudo, you can kdesu10:10
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lespea:/10:11
K`zanbiovore: I know, doesn't work with either though, roots or hers.10:11
hyper__chhiho, does Ubuntu by default make a cron that updates the slocate db? or is one to be added manually?10:11
biovorealso log in as the user and pop open a shell and type group10:11
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lespealibqt3-mt-dev10:11
lespeatry that?10:11
biovoredo you see admin in the list10:11
lespeavim /etc/group?10:11
jaimsbye all10:11
lespealater10:12
pagblekos, if you're compiling, it's almost always the -dev package.10:12
pag!compiling | blekos10:12
ubotublekos: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:12
wedontneedhi how can i understand that my ubuntu sees my nvidia 730010:12
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Cnl_Deltathere needs to an easier way to add repos10:13
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biovoresees you 7300?10:13
lespeacnl -- one sec10:13
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Cnl_Deltasudo aptitude add-repo would be breat10:13
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wedontneeduses my nvidia card10:13
lespeaoh, like that?10:13
mike01grhi10:13
biovorewedontneed: you mean using the nvidia driver?10:13
lespeaha10:13
pagwedontneed, glxinfo | grep -i direct  that check if you have 3d acceleration10:13
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wedontneedyes i mean it10:14
wedontneedit says this10:14
wedontneeddirect rendering: No10:15
wedontneedOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect10:15
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pagwedontneed, it means you don't have drivers installed and/or enabled10:15
lespeacnl: what about `sudo sed -ibak s/^#deb/deb/g /etc/apt/sources.list`10:15
wedontneedhow can i enable or install10:15
lespea(i dind't proof that go easy!10:15
wedontneedmy card is geforce go 730010:16
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Cnl_Deltathats a lot to type in10:16
pagwedontneed, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common10:16
Cnl_Deltasudo aptitude update/install seems intuitive for newbies10:16
lespeawell... copy paste10:16
pag!nvidia | wedontneed10:16
ubotuwedontneed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:16
wedontneedty10:17
K`zanbiovore: Works amazingly well when you add them to the right group :).10:17
biovorehehe  I though that would be the problem..10:17
paghmm.. I probably should start to make more use of ubotu. It seems really useful :)10:17
lespeaubotu?10:17
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lespeaoh... <slaps forhead>10:18
biovore!ubotu10:18
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:18
Cugel!ubotu10:18
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fulat2khi folks, any idea why the resolution can't be fixed at 1680x1050 when using nvidia's driver?  i used nvidia-settings to set the res.10:18
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lespeamonitor?10:18
lespea(talking outta ass)10:18
lespea:p10:18
Cugelfulat2k: time to edit xorg.conf. You can manually add that resolution.10:18
fulat2kCugel: hmm... i believe i see the resolution in xorg.conf.  lemme double check.10:19
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fulat2kCugel: iirc, nvidia-settings does save the proper resolution in xorg.conf as well.  unless it got fubar-ed10:19
homeytophi all - what is the name for the release for 2.6.17-10-38610:20
lespeaokay ? for everybody -- when the install goes all funky and the res. gets stuck at 800x600; is there an easier way to fix it than dpkg-reconfigure10:20
lespeai look at xorg.conf and i see all the res. in there but I don't get why it won't use them10:20
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paglespea, look at xorg's logfile. It usually explains why it's using that resolution10:21
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lespeatnx10:22
lespea(still slow moving from Win to linux sometimes w/thought process)10:23
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don_I found the only way to correct resolution is to rotate different cards then it will adjust10:24
lespearotate different cards?10:24
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lespeayou mean like physically swapping them?10:24
don_graphics10:24
don_ya it sure was easier10:25
wedontneedi did this :sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common      then what will i do?10:25
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pagwedontneed, look at the link ubotu gave you10:25
wedontneedk10:25
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K`zanOK, what am I missing here, I try to ssh into the new system and it gets rejected.  The system doing the ssh is in /etc/hosts.allow ?!?  TIA10:26
K`zanDuhhh, ssh server :)10:26
biovoreK`zan: you have ssh installed10:26
biovoreapt-get install openssh-server10:27
don_We tried all the other things for resolution and even screwed one copy of kubuntu then i traded cardsaround10:27
lespeaTIA?10:27
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K`zanTIA == Thanks In Advance.10:27
Alarm|ericsson|, hoi amigos10:27
lespeaah10:27
K`zan:-)10:27
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lespea? lo lwhat's that alarm thing?10:28
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irrintxihola10:28
lespeahola, como estas?10:29
binks_!adept error10:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:29
binks_!adept10:29
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto10:29
binks_ok ok how do unlock adept when its locking10:30
Wesselaardoes anyone know where i can find the libxine extracodecs for kubuntu 6.06?10:30
binks_!adept-broken10:30
biovore!universe10:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:30
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:30
biovorelibxine-extracodecs I believe is in universe or multiverse10:30
Wesselaari have enabled it but adept doesnt find it10:31
lespeaI like sending ppl here (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories) to have them just add all those + keys10:31
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biovorecheck http://packages.ubuntu.com10:31
lespeacancel | allow10:31
Wesselaari will look at the link from ubotu, maybe it says something else10:31
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|ericsson|Alarm: hola amigo10:33
sivaji how to check my kernel version10:34
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biovoreuname -a10:34
paguname -r  if you want just the kernel10:34
binks_ok what is the best kubuntu web browser surely cant be firefox as i find it slow10:35
lespea?10:35
lespeaslow?10:35
biovorekonqueror works decent.. has problems on some sites..10:35
K`zansshing into the new box, I get "Permission denied, please try again.", what am I missing here (other than it is late and I have been at this all day :-)?10:35
lespeayou could try swiftfox10:35
lespeaedit /etc/ssh.conf and see if you're allowed10:36
binks_takes an age to open up sometimes and crashes on some sites10:36
lespeahmm10:36
biovoreK`zan: root is not allowed to login via SSH10:36
biovore^ I suggest keeping it that way10:36
binks_is swiftfox in repos10:36
K`zanbiovore: That's it :-)!10:36
lespeadunno10:36
lespeahold on10:36
blekosok, that did the trick, now i have another question, can i delete the folder where i had the original files of the program?10:36
lespeano10:36
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lespeakonqueror is going to be the fastest (for the same reasons ie is the fastest in windows)10:37
lespeamaybe your computer needs more ram if firefox is "slow"10:37
sivajisivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ firefox10:37
lespeahow many extensions are you using?10:37
sivaji(firefox-bin:5587): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",10:37
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binks_its has 2gb so not the ram10:37
_dennis_I installed MS word and when I browse to the folder I can lauch and use it with Crossover...but when I rightclick on a textfile and try to open it with MS word i get this message 'KDEInit could not lauch', I also made a shortcut but this gives me an error message 'IOPL' not enabled ??10:37
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biovorefirefox is just big..  get use to it..10:38
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|ericsson|binks_: there are way to try and speed up firefox if you're interested10:38
biovoreits cross platform and because of that its got alot of custom stuff.10:38
biovore^ Pre load ?10:38
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lespeafirefox's language choices are horrible !10:39
lespeaimho10:39
binks_|ericsson|: yes please10:39
biovorecould get iceweasel :-P10:39
lespeaheh10:39
lespeadork10:39
lespea:p10:39
biovoredebian is mad at mozilla people so they change the name of firefox in debian :-P10:39
biovoreto iceweasel10:39
lespeamore like mozilla is mad at debian ppl10:39
lespea/semantics10:40
biovorewell its the classic MPL vs GPL10:40
|ericsson|binks_: if you start up your Firefox and type in about:config in the addressbar (where you type url's)10:40
lespeabickering == stupidty10:40
biovorergr10:40
binks_|ericsson|: ok one that10:40
|ericsson|binks_: Ok, now if you type in network.http.pipelining.maxrequests where it says "filter", and change this to 8 instead of the default 410:41
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|ericsson|binks_: the you can do network.http.proxy.pipelining in the same way, change this from "false" to "true"10:42
lespeai thought he was complaining about startup times / etc10:42
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|ericsson|lespea: I just saw "slow" firefox :)10:42
binks_|ericsson|: ok done10:42
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|ericsson|binks_: third thing to do is network.http.pipelining, change this to "true"10:43
lespeaman i read into things too much :D10:43
Wesselaarstill cant find the libxineextracodecs with multiverse enabled in kubuntu 6.0610:43
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binks_|ericsson|: yep10:43
|ericsson|binks_: are you running on ipv6?10:44
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binks_|ericsson|: looks like i should read up on firefox whats ipv6?? you lost me there10:44
lespeayou have to add medibuntu repos for that i think... here's a link [http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php] 10:44
lespeawarning: it's SLOW10:44
luapvWesselaar: check out this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-99259e1841e1e1262f4f71e0c72d5a51b3fb69e910:45
|ericsson|binks_: heh, now worries if you don't know, try network.dns.disableIPv6 and change it to "true" :)10:45
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lespeadoes anybody w/a sweat source know when medibuntu is going to get un-owned by the inet traffic?10:46
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binks_|ericsson|:  yep done gonna have to read about it still it one thing being shown how to make it faster but i like to no what im doin10:47
Alarm|ericsson|, man instead of telling all the options give him a link :)10:47
Alarmbinks_,  if u need a fater firefox , upgrade ur internet line :)10:47
Wesselaarluapv: i enabled multiverse universe but adept doenst show a libxine-extracodecs, weird...10:47
DaniwanOk, I dont know if this is ver Ubuntu related, but I am trying to either get pcsx to run a real playstation cd or to find a way to create a working image from a real psx cd.  Any suggestions?10:48
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|ericsson|binks_: IPv6 is an Internet protocol standard, it has nothing to do with Firefox in particular10:48
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binks_Alarm: i have 10 meg if |ericsson| wants to help let him why is it bothering you10:48
Cnl_Deltahi which nvidia driver would go with a 7600GS nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new10:48
tarelerulzFor one I had hard drive upgrading to 7.04 fro kubuntu 6.1010:48
Alarmdo i seem bothered  ? i just said to to get a link with all the configuration of firefox, didnt say something bad10:48
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biovorelibxine-extracodecs is in multiverse.. I just checked10:49
|ericsson|binks_: Try to restart FF now and see if you got it faster..10:49
AlarmCnl_Delta,  both will do, some have issues with -new ,  i didnt. try them10:49
biovorefor feisty10:49
DaniwanK3B Wont copy it "K3B does not copy CD's with multiple data tracks"10:49
binks_the whole thing about linux for me is learning what can be done not just spent more to achieve10:49
tarelerulzI can't seem to get berly to work . I have border when I run it. plus I don't see it in my menu I just see it settings10:49
Wesselaarbiovore: im running dapper10:49
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johntI am having trouble getting k3b to burn a short home filmed mpeg1 to dvd so I can play on tv. D/loaded and installed all the extras that iI know about but still getting error/fail10:49
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Alarmbinks_,  sorry for dissapointing u , but what u just said has nothing to do with linux. its firefox related10:49
Cnl_Deltahmm k10:49
Alarmit can be done under Ms also10:49
biovoreWesselaar: oh.. different animal all together10:50
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binks_johnt: add a dummy file to the folder to make it burn more on the disc10:50
|ericsson|Alarm: did you hear when I said that there is a kernel bug which is causing your problem?10:50
Alarmyeap10:50
DaniwanJohn, it appears to me that K3B is only good for writing MP3 to CD or copying data files to a new CD10:50
Alarmbtw, i dont remember man if u told me to try another removable flash/disk10:50
binks_Alarm: i meant as a whole not just this conversation10:50
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Alarmi did try a usb stick and worked without any problem at all10:50
biovoreWesselaar: will probably have to build from source.. no one runs a 3rd party mirror for dapper anymore10:50
Alarmmounted it automatically10:50
johntbinks: so give it a heap of crap????10:50
Wesselaarhuh10:50
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|ericsson|Alarm: I don't wheter to laugh or cry :)10:51
WesselaarLTS?10:51
biovoreWesselaar: www.exinehq.de10:51
Alarm|ericsson|,  my system just loves that /win5 dir :)10:51
Alarmdoesnt want to leave it hehe10:51
binks_johnt: sort of i have the same prob with flashing firmware onto dvd players10:51
|ericsson|Alarm: Certainly looks that way ;)10:51
biovoreWesselaar: well in dapper the extra codecs wern't in the standard repos..10:51
DaniwanNo one has any ideas how I can take this orriginal real PSX cd I have and play it on my Kubuntu?10:51
lespeano i10:51
DaniwanThe playstation is in the other room, I'd rather stay in here and play  lol10:52
lespeahas anybody ever run into drouble with fuse out of curiosity?10:52
biovoreWesselaar: I think if all you doing is to get mp3 support working, you can try installing the gstreamer backends10:52
binks_|ericsson|: that makes it much faster thanks alot10:52
Wesselaarso i better stick with windows , i guess10:52
biovoreWesselaar: or upgrade to feisty10:52
|ericsson|binks_: nice that it worked...10:52
AlarmWesselaar, what is it man i wasnt paying attention10:52
tarelerulzso any one else have beryl run and not put border on app and not let them use the apps10:52
binks_johnt: a great site for dvd  is www.dvdhelp.com10:52
Wesselaarthought that (k) ubuntu was easy, so the ubuntu homepage says so...10:52
DaniwanWindows is much easier but to limited and slow10:52
binks_sorry www.dvdrhelp.com10:52
biovoreWesselaar: your using a version from early 200610:53
Cnl_Deltastay with windows if ya plan to be outdated10:53
DaniwanWesselaar it is10:53
AlarmWesselaar,  ubuntu is one of the easiest distros u can get10:53
DaniwanPop in the CD and boom you got Kubuntu10:53
Daniwanuse Adept to install stuff10:53
DaniwanJust dont try to play games or use web cams  lol10:53
johntbinks: the mpeg is only 90seconds long so two errors are shown   1 cannot transcode the file  2 do not know the file length I will go look at te link thx10:53
tarelerulzbiovore I think I would go to zoph.org for emulators.10:53
AlarmWesselaar,  u try to install xine codes but u dont find them in ur repo or what10:53
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binks_johnt: is the file already mpeg210:54
lespeahttp://www.stuff.co.nz/westcoast/4050150a10.html10:54
lespeawow10:54
lespea(sorry for unrelated stuff)10:54
johntbinks: No!! mpeg110:54
WesselaarAlarm: yes10:54
binks_arr well you need to convert it to mpeg then auth the dvd to play it in a standalone10:55
Wesselaarkubuntu dapper10:55
Alarmfor dapper ?10:55
Wesselaaryes10:55
Alarmok10:55
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Wesselaari guess the 3d party is not as LTS as the official mirrors.10:55
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johntbinks: So! How to convert then??10:55
binks_johnt: look into avidemux and kmediastudio10:55
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johntbinks: So! How to convert then??10:55
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biovoreWesselaar: LTS is really ment for servers10:55
Techno_Hello. I half did the fiesty upgrade but had to quit. Now KDE logs out every time I try to start linux10:55
sivaji!pastebin10:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:56
hardwoodhi!10:56
Wesselaarbut it sucks when you installed dapper and cant find stuff to play mp3 and so on10:56
johntbinks: Sorry wrong keys   OK then I will check them out too10:56
binks_johnt:one sec ill get you a lnk10:56
AlarmWesselaar, and u searched for: libxine-extracodecs ?10:56
Techno_!kde10:56
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.10:56
WesselaarAlarm: yes10:56
hardwoodhi everybody10:56
DaniwanWesselaar, go to fiesty10:56
biovoreWesselaar: there was a method, but its been so long I have forgoten.. I have mp3 and stuff going in dapper, but that was 2 releases ago..10:57
Wesselaarfeisty is just to buggy here10:57
Daniwan...10:57
DaniwanI only found one10:57
Techno_!adept10:57
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto10:57
biovoreWesselaar: what about etchy?10:57
|ericsson|Is there anyone here who's tried bongo?10:57
DaniwanYou need to patch VMWare10:57
AlarmWesselaar,  check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-217592.html10:57
Wesselaaralso bugguy10:57
Daniwanother then that feisty runs everything dapper and edgy did10:57
biovoreWesselaar: no linux comes with mp3 support because of licensing issues..10:57
Cnl_Deltak glxgears is a mess with nvidia-glx-new10:57
Alarmdeb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse10:57
Alarmdeb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse10:57
Wesselaareveryone uses mp3 , what a story....10:57
Alarmdo u have this in ur sources.list file ?10:58
DaniwanOk, just use adept and install kaffien10:58
Techno_brb10:58
Daniwanproblem solved10:58
AlarmWesselaar,  ur problem is that u cant play mp3 or video files10:58
biovoreWesselaar: well its a close propritory format..  technicaly we are suppose to pay royaliests on mp3..10:58
biovoreWesselaar: but no one dose.. maybe microsoft..10:58
binks_johnt:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936&highlight=tovid10:58
Daniwanbio, only if you profit from selling something that uses MP3 encoding10:58
biovoreDaniwan: correct10:59
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AlarmWesselaar,  as i said that the 2 links in ur sources.list10:59
DaniwanThe royalties are if you sell and profit from a program that encodes or decodes the format from what I understand10:59
johntbinks: Cool thanks that should give me some help :-))10:59
Alarmapt-get update10:59
Alarmand install the xine codecs10:59
Alarmand gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly10:59
Alarmand done10:59
DaniwanSo something like Kaffien is a FREE program.. No profit, no royalties and should work on all Ubuntu releases no?10:59
Wesselaargstreamer...?11:00
tarelerulzI use totem with the new gstream plugin .11:00
Wesselaarubuntu?11:00
DaniwanBut I still wanna hear what these supposed bugs are in fiesty?11:00
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DaniwanI havn't seen a single one11:00
biovoreWesselaar: you search the forums for info..11:00
Daniwanand I do alot of devel stuff11:00
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Daniwanservers, development...11:00
AlarmWesselaar,  also install libxine1 maybe its needed , just in case11:00
tarelerulzI try to opon and mp3 and ubuntu 7.04 said would you like to download the package to play these files11:00
Alarmand i dont think u will have a problem them11:01
DaniwanIf I can run Apache, PHP, mysql and a slew of other servers flawlessly what are you doing thats buggy?11:01
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biovoreWesselaar: just looking at the mirrors and package databases, I think you have to cheat and use the .nl mirror :-P11:01
sivajihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19414/11:01
DaniwanUbuntu is the base of Kubuntu11:01
Daniwannone the less it's all based on debian11:01
AlarmDaniwan,  thats why i finally got to debian :)11:01
biovoreWesselaar: its not on the US/britian mirrors11:01
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DaniwanI like Kubuntu, it's the easiest11:02
Wesselaarnl mirror doesnt have the extra codecs for dapper either,11:02
binks_Wesselaar: have a look at vlc it rocks11:02
DaniwanI use Gentoo for my servers for different reasons11:02
Alarmsome few bugs that kubuntu has on kde dont exist on debian, and i must say its running a bit faster11:02
DaniwanBut I have like 4 boxes running11:02
tarelerulzI go to distrowatch all the time and I don't seem debain on top the list.11:02
biovoreWesselaar: nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse11:02
AlarmWesselaar,  , do u ignore my lines man or what.11:02
Daniwan2 running gentoo, 1 running debian and 1 running Kubuntu11:02
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Alarmi pasted allready the mirror for multiverse repo11:02
Wesselaari think that kubuntu or ubuntu is just not as easy as the site mentioned11:02
Alarmi give up11:02
DaniwanThe gentoo servers run great.  The debian server rarely crashes and when it does it's my dumb fault11:03
Wesselaarme too11:03
Henning3hi, does anybody know a usb wlan device, that support WPA2 on linux?11:03
DaniwanThe Kubuntu box only bugs out when switching KDE users to much11:03
AlarmWesselaar,  i mean i give up as u dont want to listen11:03
Wesselaartnx anyway11:03
binks_tarelerulz: the list is made up mostly of people new to nix so the easy root will always be near the top althou saying that i still use *ubuntu on all my gear11:03
DaniwanWhich is a KDE flaw not in Kubuntu, Ubuntu or Debian11:03
AlarmWesselaar,  and kubuntu is easy. i dont think u sat on MS OS and learned and found out the first 1-2 days11:03
Wesselaarjust to much crap to get something working in linux11:03
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biovoreWesselaar: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly  and try using gstreamer backend11:03
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DaniwanWesselaar not true11:03
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Daniwanlol pop in the live CD and reboot11:04
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AlarmWesselaar,  even if it is so. if it works, it works forever...11:04
DaniwanYou'll be using Kubuntu in 5 mins11:04
DaniwanKubuntu is windows without the limits and bugs11:04
Alarmlike |ericsson|  usb drive11:04
Wesselaaryep , without any "normal"" multimedia support11:04
binks_Wesselaar: and vista is a shining example of every thing bad about windows even they admit its pants11:04
DaniwanThe ONLY problem is running games and or webcams11:04
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Daniwan:)11:04
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AlarmWesselaar,  if u will read what we all wrote u , u will get ur mp3 support, but u dont seem to do what we all tell u11:04
DaniwanEverything else is just like windows with the exception it works11:04
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AlarmDaniwan,  never had a problem with games under cedega11:05
biovoreWesselaar: is the same thing with windows.. try getting media play or winamp to play flac's11:05
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spawn57does fiesty's kernel allow for ACLs on NFSv3 and NFSv411:05
Daniwancedega??11:05
DaniwanSega EMU?11:05
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Alarmnop. linux game emulatero11:05
lespeazsnes11:05
Daniwanhmm11:05
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Alarmgames supported: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/11:05
DaniwanWell right now I wanna play my old FF7 games11:05
lespeaoh oops sorry11:05
binks_epsxe rocks11:06
DaniwanThats my problem is I cant seem to get pcsx to run the freakin CD11:06
DaniwanIt wants a image on HDD11:06
AlarmFF7 whats that11:06
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binks_so creat an iso11:06
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DaniwanFinal Fantasy 711:06
DaniwanOnly the best freakin game ever!11:06
Alarmpsx emulator ?11:06
Daniwanyeah11:06
DaniwanGot it11:06
Daniwanpcsx11:06
DaniwanIt's working fine11:06
lespeaff6 > ff7 :P11:06
jd823592Hello all, I am trying to run UT2004 Linux Demo but i got stucked just after downloading the .gz file ... Always i try open or extract some archive files an error occures11:06
Alarmhm.. i dont know, but if u dont find anything on linux, why not trying through wine ?11:06
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DaniwanFF6 was jap only no?11:06
lespeano11:06
lespeaff6 was american ff311:07
Daniwanhmm11:07
lespea(for super nintendo)11:07
DaniwanI've played 1, 5, 7, 8, 9, X, X2, 1211:07
Daniwan2 I never found11:07
jd823592what can cause these ERRORS please?11:07
lespeajd823592 ... go to the directory where the file is located11:07
Daniwan3 was jap only11:07
lespeapress f411:07
lespeayes11:07
binks_latter all diy time have fun ps Alarm dont fall out with me we all do things differently thats the beauty of life :)11:07
Daniwan4 I dont think I found11:07
Daniwan5 was the one with the chick and the magitek11:08
jd823592OK11:08
lespeathat's 611:08
lespeaterra11:08
|ericsson|Alarm: :))11:08
Alarm:)11:08
DaniwanYeah11:08
lespeathat's 611:08
DaniwanThats 5 I got it here11:08
Daniwan:)11:08
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lespeaumm11:08
jd823592And what then?11:08
lespeawell then we're thinign of different games11:08
DaniwanNah Terra was the main char11:08
lespeajd type : `tar xvzf [file name] `11:08
DaniwanWith King Edgar11:08
AlarmDaniwan,  i really enver tried ps emulator , but whats this about: http://www.epsxe.com/ , u tried it11:08
Daniwanand Kefka11:08
shinobidoes anyone have any information on using a SQL database (for example PostreSQL) as a backend to kontact/kaddressbook11:08
lespeayeah i will bet you a thousand dollars that that's six11:08
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Daniwanepsxe doesn't install from adept11:09
lespeahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_611:09
DaniwanI'm not that great at patching things in myself11:09
AlarmDaniwan,  so what ? install it from source11:09
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lespeajd any luck?11:09
DaniwanIt's a Playstation game not a PC game11:09
DaniwanI have the orriginal CD's here11:09
DaniwanThats my problem11:09
jd823592not finished yet11:10
Daniwanthe Emulator I have only has plugins to play images11:10
lespeak11:10
lespeaare you still taling to me or to whom?11:10
lespealol11:10
DaniwanAnd K3B wont create an image cause "K3B Does not copy CD's with multiple data tracks"11:10
lespeai'm confused!11:10
jd823592should there be these brackets? "[] "11:10
tarelerulzI think you could rip the game and make an iso of it.11:10
binks_Daniwan: there is a great tut n how to get epxse working on the forums11:10
tarelerulzthe psx iso are about 650 something small like that11:10
lespeano... insert the .gz file where that is11:10
lespeasorry for the confusion11:10
jd823592ok11:10
jd823592np ...11:11
DaniwanI'd perfer if someone just knew a plugin for pcsx that played from cdr11:11
DaniwanOr a program that could make the image11:11
DaniwanK3B can not :(11:11
Daniwanles then what was 5?11:11
lespeadd?11:11
lespea5 was a jap-only game11:11
Daniwanhmm11:11
lespeabut i hear it is the second-or-third best11:12
lespea(of all of them)11:12
DaniwanOk, then I've played 1, 5, 7-1211:12
lespealol didn't you play te one w/terra?11:12
DaniwanYeah11:12
jd823592tar: UT20004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory11:12
jd823592tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now11:12
jd823592tar: Child returned status 211:12
jd823592tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors11:12
DaniwanI thaught that was 511:12
lespeathat's 6!11:12
DaniwanYeah well that one11:12
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DaniwanI played it, I loved it11:12
lespea:D yeah11:12
DaniwanI consider it #2 though11:12
lespeajd ... just start typing the file name and press tab so it completes it for you11:13
lespeathis way we know it wasn't a semantic error11:13
lespeaif that doesn't work type ls -l [file name]  and paste the results11:13
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DaniwanI think it was from best to worst... (7, 6, X, 9, 12, 8, X2)11:13
lespeaokay, i'll take #211:13
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lespeaX --> playable movie (but i still liked it)11:13
DaniwanBut 6 & 7 where both the bomb diggity  lol11:13
shinobiso what is the best ps or ps2 emulator (is there such a thing?)11:13
DaniwanI really hated 8 till I saw X211:14
DaniwanX2 is super stupid11:14
DaniwanLets change clothes yay!11:14
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lespeahttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Playstation_1_Emulator_.28pSX.2911:14
Daniwanlol anyway this is getting to far off topic, dont wanna tick people off11:14
lespeai never played x211:14
_4strOhttp://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/_detail/news/affiche_conf_ubuntu_a6_net.png?id=index&cache=cache11:14
DaniwanDont it's stupid11:14
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lespeak11:14
jd823592lespea: unfortunatelly it behaves as if it was in dif. dir. cause TAB doesnt work11:14
DaniwanYour Yuna, and the other 2 chicks.... They change clothes to build stats11:15
lespeaare yo uin the right directory?11:15
lespeatype ls and make sure it's there11:15
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Jok3rsRofl11:15
Jok3rscant stop me11:15
Daniwaneven my gf said it was too girly to be called a FF game11:15
lespea?11:15
lespeahaha that sucks11:15
jd823592in Konqueror yes and there I press F4 ... then in console i tried "tar...." it didnt work so i tried "cd /home/ubuntu" but nothing happened11:16
Jok3rscant stop me11:16
lespeajust type cd11:16
lespeathat will bring you home11:16
jd823592ok11:16
lespeathen type `ls` and make sure you see the file there11:16
lespea(or cd to the directory it's in)11:17
lespeaalso helpfull tip: `cd -` brings you back to the last directory you were in11:17
jd823592i do see it11:17
jd823592cd - works as cd ..?11:18
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lespeaokay, files are case sensitive so make sure you are typing the case right11:18
lespeayes `cd ..` goes up 1 directory11:18
blekosi'd like to install libdar but is not available in the repos any suggestions?11:18
Daniwanles for installing from that last link you sent... "Cant find ia32-libs"11:18
Jok3rscant stop me11:18
Daniwan:-\11:18
DaniwanI copied and pasted the commands for the AMD64 install  (As thats my chipset)11:18
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lespeahmm :/ dunno i've never used it before (i just have the guide in my favs and remember seing it htere)11:19
lespeaare you using the 64 bit edition of linux?11:19
jd823592wow .. a different errors :)11:19
DaniwanYeah11:19
lespeawoo!11:19
lespeaoh11:19
FrankXcd ~    should take you HOME11:19
lespeathen i dunno lol11:19
jd823592tar: This does not look like a tar archive11:19
jd823592tar: Skipping to next header11:19
jd823592gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file11:19
jd823592tar: Child returned status 111:19
jd823592tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors11:19
DaniwanKubuntu for AMD6411:19
jd823592seems as if it was corrupted11:19
lespeatry `file [file name] `11:19
lespeaand yes, it's probably corrupt11:19
DaniwanIt runs 32 and 64 bit at the same time it's freakin sweet11:19
lespeais there an md5 hash where you downloaded it?11:19
DaniwanGotta love this cpu11:19
lespeaheh yeah11:20
jd823592tar: file: Cannot open: No such file or directory11:20
jd823592tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now11:20
jd823592tar: Child returned status 211:20
jd823592tar: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: Not found in archive11:20
jd823592tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors11:20
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lespeaFrankX: yes ~ is a shortcut for home, but if you omit it then its the same11:20
DaniwanI HIGHLY recomend getting an AMD Sempron if your not to familiar with linux.  So you dont screw yourself out of anything11:20
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lespeayeah there's an error there11:20
lespeahold on11:20
DaniwanYou can use all the high powered 64bit apps AND you can run any legacy 32bit's you might need if theres no 64bit avail11:21
DaniwanThe Sempron processor had both instruction sets built in11:21
lespeawget http://data.unrealtournament.com/UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz11:21
jd823592lespea: btw.: can you recommend me some docs to learn how to use terminal from11:21
lespeatype that to download it in the console11:21
Daniwanles, is that one for me?11:22
lespeasure!11:22
jd823592ok11:22
lespeano dani for jd11:22
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lespeahttp://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=847811:22
lespeabest guide ever!11:22
DaniwanI think maybe I'll just go pop the CD in the PS211:22
Daniwanlol11:22
jd823592THANK YOU ... now i am downloading11:23
lespeadani try this "lsb-qt4-ia32"11:23
lespeano idea if that's it or not :/11:23
lespeaaptitude search ia32 --> there's a couple of them in there to try :)11:24
lespeanp jd11:24
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lespeaanyways -- i'm fricken tired as hell so i'm gonna goto bed (4:30 here!)11:24
lespeagl everybody11:24
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lespeatul11:24
lespeattul11:24
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DaniwanOh well, as always it was fun chatting here.  Ubuntu community rocks!!  See ya later I'm off to play some final fantasy11:25
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blekosi'm trying to find a complete system tool with gui...so far no luck, bacula seems to complicated to install, so is there any good tutorial for having backup with tar?11:39
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dettoaltrimenti_does using a dynamic CPU frequency ever slow down your computer?11:42
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frojndhm that's strange I compile kernel and I still got 2.6.20-15-generic11:54
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Sandeepcis anyone NOT sleeping around here to help me out please?11:59
pag!ask | Sandeepc12:00
ubotuSandeepc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:00
Sandeepcgot it12:00
krautmoin12:00
Sandeepchelp with nvidia, !!nvidia gives instructions for ubuntu, i need help with kubuntu12:00
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Cnl_Deltahi, how do i remove xine? it seems to have unbalanced my soundchip (Realtek 52xx)12:01
pagSandeepc, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common12:01
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Sandeepcpag: how do i know my nvidia card is not of the 'nvidia-new' type?12:02
pagthey added one more?!12:02
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Sandeepcpag: oh am not sure12:03
pagSandeepc, what card do you have?12:03
Sandeepcpag: yes they did, glx, new, and legacy12:03
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Cnl_Deltai think new is for the 8x series12:03
Sandeepcpag: 7600gs12:03
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pagSandeepc, you should do well wiht -glx12:03
SandeepcCnl_Delta: hmm, thanks i guess so12:03
Sandeepcpag: ok i'll go ahead with that then, thanks12:04
Sandeepcpag: btw, kernel common is already installed12:04
Sandeepcanother thing, do i need to do the source-o-matic thingy for feisty too?12:04
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pagSandeepc, yeah12:04
Sandeepccoz i guess it has most commonly required repos, no?12:04
pagSandeepc, did you do a clean install?12:05
Sandeepcpayes12:05
Sandeepcpag: yes12:05
_dennis_when I point over an icon with my mouse a small window pops up, how can I turn it of12:05
jd823592lespea: are you still there?12:05
_dennis_*lauch icon12:05
_dennis_launch12:05
pagSandeepc, then you probably should.. afaik it add couple of useful repos12:06
Sandeepcpag: ok12:06
Sandeepcpag: what do i need to do once i have downloaded the driver?12:06
pagSandeepc, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:06
Sandeepcpag: anything else?12:07
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pagalthough I've noticed it messes up the system by default12:07
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Sandeepcpag: ??12:07
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Sandeepcpag: messes up?12:07
pagsou you probably want to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -philg xserver-xorg12:07
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pagSandeepc, not sure... it done so for me12:08
Sandeepcpag: ok thank you, i will enable the 'thing' once its done downloading the driver12:08
pagSandeepc, sorry: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:08
Sandeepcpag: what is that for?, reconfiguring the X incase i screw it up?12:09
pagSandeepc, yep :)12:09
Sandeepcpag: cool, is that '-phigh0 important?12:09
Sandeepc'-phigh0*12:10
Sandeepc'-phigh'*12:10
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pagSandeepc, it make things automatic :) otherwise you may have to answer lots of quit hard questions12:10
pagthis way you have to answer only about resolution and driver iirc12:10
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Sandeepcpag: oh ok, i'll remember that, thanks for helping me out, i'll get back to you if you dont mind, later on12:11
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pagSandeepc, IF X doesn't launch, you should install irssi (textbased irc-client) it'll make asking for help much easier ;)12:12
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_dennis_how can i disable the tooltip on the launch icons, I already deselected 'enable tooltip' and 'disabled tooltip effect' in the appearance < style settings??12:13
blekosi have manually installed a program, how can i remove it?12:13
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alexiconhello people, i need help with fsck12:14
alexiconmy computer keeps failing the fsck, has been for like 4 months. finally have time to try and do something about it12:14
pagblekos, go to directory where you had perforemd ./configure etc. and type sudo make uninstall12:14
alexiconfsck dies with exit status 812:14
alexiconi cant tell where its failing tho. says something about an unresolved uuid12:15
[Flux] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376257&highlight=fsck+exit+status+812:15
[Flux] alexicon12:15
alexiconcheers12:15
[Flux] go to that page12:15
Sandeepcpag: ok i'll remember that too, although it'll take some time for me to get used to the cmd line IRC client, thanks12:15
jd823592Hi all, does anybody know how to extract content of GZ archive by Konsole? what parameters have to be set12:16
[Flux] tar xvf12:16
[Flux] then the file name12:16
jd823592ok12:16
jd823592thx12:16
[Flux] i think thats right12:16
[Flux] im very tired right now lol12:16
blekospag i get a msg No rule to make target `uninstall'12:16
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[Flux] blekos what are you trying to do?12:17
eske!mount12:17
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter12:17
jd823592xvf doesnt work12:17
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[Flux] try tar -xvf12:17
blekosuninstall kbackup12:17
jd823592to me it seems it still expact *.tar file12:17
pagblekos, that means that programm doesn't have that option. you might like to read readme-file it might have some suggestions12:17
blekosi c12:17
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blekosisnt there any program to "monitor" files during installion?12:18
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[Flux] what program is it blekos?12:18
blekosflux it's kbackup12:18
jd823592Flux: it seems it made a difference but it still doesn't work12:18
eskeif i want to upgrade my system, do i have to write apt-get dist-upgrade?12:19
[Flux] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/42444-how-open-tar-bz2-tar-gz-file.html12:19
jd823592thx12:19
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Linux_Galore 71.8% of users mainly use KDE (factoid from 2007 opensuse user survey)12:20
[Flux] blekos try sudo apt-get remove kdbackup12:20
[Flux] if you havent' already12:20
jd823592FLUX is it possible that the problem is that it isnt TAR.GZ but RUN.GZ?12:20
[Flux] yeah that could be12:21
[Flux] one second12:21
[Flux] try gunzip filename12:21
[Flux] filename being the run.gz file12:21
jd823592ok i will try12:21
jd823592THX12:21
[Flux] ok12:21
harzihm, i just installed mythtv to kubuntu and it seams to work for video, audio and so on, but not TV... I canot watch live-tv nor already recorded tv (from previous debian-etch installation). calling mythfrontend with verbose loging, i see that it cannot connect to the mysql-database12:22
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harzitrying again myth-video, it *can* connect...12:22
jd823592i have lunch now but i would appreciate if i could ask you few more quest. when i am back12:23
[Flux] i might be here jd82359212:23
[Flux] im getting sleepy lol12:23
[Flux] but others are here to help lol12:23
blekosi tried it with aptitude but no lack12:23
blekoswhat i did is to search for kbackup and manually remove the files...12:23
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[Flux] try sudo apt-get autoremove12:24
alexicon[Flux] : i dont get this... it doesnt actually suggest how to fix the problem cept for this kernel patch.. so is there nothing actually wrong with my disks, this is just a ubuntu problem?12:24
[Flux] if you remove its dependencies first12:24
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[Flux] alexicon no clue, fsck isnt something i mess with lol12:24
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alexiconif i install this patched kernel is it going to ruin my nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules etc?12:25
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[Flux] never messed with custom kernels either, so i really don't know12:25
[Flux] im a bit of a linux newbie myself12:25
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[Flux] alexicon, what is your kernel version?12:26
[Flux] default kubuntu?12:26
alexicon2.6.17-11-generic12:26
alexiconyeah12:26
[Flux] in console type fsck -l12:27
alexiconi remember all the hassle of setting up beryl and nvidia stuff, how it all balanced together, seems upgrading the kernel would destroy all those dependencies12:27
[Flux] fdisk -l12:27
alexiconoh12:27
[Flux] yeah making sure i typed that right12:27
alexiconok12:27
[Flux] did it say anything?12:28
alexiconyeah shows me all my partitions12:28
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alexiconall 11 of them12:28
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[Flux] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395272&highlight=fsck+exit+status+812:28
[Flux] try that thread12:28
[Flux] its a bit more detailed, and has a fix12:28
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alexiconok cheers12:29
[Flux] i think it might be what you need12:29
[Flux] are you running fiesty?12:29
alexiconnope edgy12:29
[Flux] oohhh12:29
[Flux] hmm i know your problem is fixed in fiesty12:29
alexiconorly?12:29
alexiconhrm12:29
[Flux] yeah12:29
alexiconive been meaning to upgrade12:29
[Flux] well this is a good reason too lol12:30
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[Flux] im 99% sure it will fix your problem12:30
alexicondoing that dist upgrade causes problems for me tho, i usually go for a fresh install, just havent had the time for all that12:30
alexiconok12:30
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alexiconhrm12:30
[Flux] but like i said im kinda newbie12:30
[Flux] may wanna ask in #ubuntu12:30
alexiconguess i could test it by booting into another distro12:30
alexiconif it happens in every distro its my disk and not ubuntu//12:30
alexiconok thanks for your help flux :)12:30
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[Flux] no problem12:31
[Flux] good luck :)12:31
alexicon:)12:31
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jd823592FLUX are u still there?12:32
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jd823592gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file12:33
bulwynklhowdt all - anyone know why I don't seem to be able to install Nvu (or kompozer) on my laptop (7.04)?12:33
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jd823592[Flux] : this is the err gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file12:34
[Flux] corrupted file maybe?12:34
[Flux] is there a md5 checksum for it?12:34
thingyjd823592: what is the output of "file UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz"12:35
Sandeepci just installed the nvidia driver and my resolution is very low, can someone please tell me how do i increase it?i am using widescreen12:35
|ericsson|does anyone know the name of the theme manager package?12:36
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jd823592Md5 might be somewhere but i dont know what to use to MD5 the archive12:36
raxiv|ericsson| - beryl + emerald should do.12:36
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jd823592thingy: how did you mean that?12:36
Sandeepci just installed the nvidia driver and my resolution is very low, can someone please tell me how do i increase it?i am using widescreen12:36
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|ericsson|!fixres | Sandeepc12:37
ubotuSandeepc: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:37
thingyjd823592: type in "file UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz" and paste the output to let us know what type of file it is12:37
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jd823592how can i encrypt something into the MD512:37
jd823592ok12:37
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Sandeepc|ericsson|: thanks12:37
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jd823592UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: gzip compressed data, was "UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run", from Unix, last modified: Fri Sep 24 12:39:12 2004, max speed12:37
|ericsson|Sandeepc: Hopefully you'll find what you need there..12:37
raxivjd823592: http://md5encryption.com/12:38
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alexiconok this is weird12:38
alexiconso i followed what that last post showed to me12:39
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thingyjd823592: Its a gzipped archive and if your getting the unexpected end of file msg, you've got a corrupt file. Download it again12:39
alexiconand apparently the drive with the uuid failure is my boot partition12:39
alexiconbut it still boots despite the problem12:39
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jd823592It is the 2. time ... from different source12:40
jd823592ok i will try ...THX12:40
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Sandeepc!source-o-matic12:49
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:49
dettoI accidently deleted some files that i need for x to run- is there any way for me to get wireless internet access in the terminal? I usually use kwifimonitor12:50
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[Flux] detto you could always load up the live cd12:50
[Flux] and mount your harddisk, and reinstall the missing apps12:51
dettoi tried that Flux, but actually the live cd i have has no program to connect me to wireless internet12:51
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dettoas far as getting it from the live cd itself, Flux, the file I'm pretty sure i need, xorg-server-i810 isn't on the cd12:52
[Flux] hmm12:52
[Flux] are you on the live cd now?12:52
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dettoI'm on the command line now12:52
comodocan someone help me every time i try to download somthing from konquer it dont allow me to open it with anything but kwrite12:52
astanhello folks. i've been running kubuntu edgy on my laptop happily for a while, should i upgrade to feisty? is it just s/edgy/feisty/ in apt.sources and dist-upgrade? should it be painless?12:53
crimsundetto: um, I know for a fact that that deb is on the cd12:53
pagcomodo, rightclick -> save as :)12:53
crimsundetto: it's called xserver-xorg-video-i810*deb12:53
comodolol thanks12:53
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jd823592FLUX: when running from LIVE CD (without install.) are there all programs that are available on the cd?..... I ask because i would like to have KDEV but it is not possible to install it as package now...will that change with installation12:54
dettocrimsun- this is the ubuntu 7.04 live cd, I get the error "E: Package xserver-xorg-video-i810 has no installation candidate"12:54
dettocrimsun and before that it says "Package xserver-xorg-video-i810 is not available, but is referred to by another package"12:55
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crimsundetto: check your md5sums12:56
[Flux] jd823592, yes it will12:56
Sandeepc!mp312:56
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:56
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dettocrimsun ok how do I do that, and what does that mean12:56
jd823592so if i install from LIVE than it will get available12:57
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[Flux] thats correct12:57
[Flux] you may have to get it from adept package manager12:57
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[Flux] which is easy :)12:57
marbugI have an old backup from my ubuntu, and I want to set it all back on the disk12:57
marbugbut which directories and files may I not copy?12:57
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jd823592[Flux] , does the msg in IRC get red (in Konversation) when your name is included or how do msgs get colored?12:58
[Flux] i dont use konversation sorry12:58
jd823592ok np12:59
[Flux] and jd823592 sorry to say im off to bed12:59
[Flux] good luck and you can always search the forums or ask in here or #ubuntu12:59
jd823592Thank you for your help ...good night12:59
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Snakezhello....how I get back grub ?? I have instaled windows yesterday and I have lost dual boot windows with my ubuntu12:59
Lynoure!grub01:00
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:00
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LynoureSnakez: see there.01:00
Snakeztnx :)01:01
Snakezseems difficult01:02
Sandeepccan anyone please help me in getting restricted formats to be played on kubun feisty?, the help in factoids is always for GNOME and not KDE01:02
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wedontneedhi i cant install my nvidia driver can someone help me?01:04
amigravedoes kubuntu saves the MBR before installing grub ?01:04
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jtt!nvidia01:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:05
jttamigrave, dont believe it does but you can01:06
jtt!mbr01:06
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:06
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amigravejtt: thanks01:07
jttamigrave, learn as much as you can about grub it is a very important piece of linux   and can save you if you blow away the MBR etc.01:08
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jtti always keep a boot floppy in my machine in case something blows the MBR that way I can always boot any of the several OS's I have in the machine with the floppy01:09
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amigravejtt: I like grub a lot (compared to lilo) and I often use it for rescue with advanced option but in my case I want to virtualize the computer of the company I'm working for (fed up to bring it at home everyday) this computer runs windows but I installed kubuntu on it a while ago. Now I want to restore the windows MBR before virtualizing01:10
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jttamigrave, ok search for  the phrase   writeraw  on google it shows how to  save the MBR to floppy01:12
jttthink it is read or  write  raw01:12
jttamigrave, just googled   save mbr   and the first hit seems to be what you can use01:13
amigravejtt: I know I can "dd" the first sector, but it's too late. This is why I was wondering if the kubuntu install process (or grub itself) was saving the MBR before overwritting it01:13
jttactually there are several  save  MBR  items, one is a wizard  looks good01:14
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jttamigrave, if you have another windows machine you can dd that one and use that MBR to restore01:15
Sandeepcif i install the gstreamer plugins in kubun, will the formats play in amarok n kaffeine?, or are the gstreamer for gnome?01:17
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dettohow can I install a package from a cd in the terminal? do I need to mount the cd?01:18
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amigravejtt: yeps but I have not ;-) Hope I can fdisk /mbr from freedos but I'm afraid to do this on this computer :)01:22
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Sandeepc!beryl01:23
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:23
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blekoscould u tell me how i can make a FULL system backup using tar?01:25
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LjLblekos: some days ago someone mentioned    tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /     and others confirmed it would work01:27
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sorsiswhere should i contact if i want to help with ubuntu?01:28
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eljakhi anybody familiar with how would i share my internet connection with my mobile phone via bluetooth?01:31
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aldini would like to make #kubuntu-CC how do i become admin of that?01:35
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comodocan you set kubuntu where if you double click somthing it wont try to open it twice??01:37
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|lostbyte|comodo, yes, turning off single click :)01:38
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peeweehallo zusammen01:50
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peeweeich hatte vor einiger zeit das problem, dass die datenbank von adept gesperrt war01:51
BluesKaj!de01:51
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:51
peeweemit einem befehl 'config...' konnte man das problem wieder aufheben01:51
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peeweewie heisst der richtige befehl?01:51
BluesKaj!de | peewee01:52
ubotupeewee: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:52
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Dragony40alguien habla ESPAOL en esta sala?01:52
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BluesKaj!es | Dragony4001:52
ubotuDragony40: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:52
ninHer;-)01:52
ninHerme too01:52
Sandeepc!es | Dragony4001:52
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axelni hao! somebody speak chinese???01:52
LjL!cn01:52
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk01:52
BluesKaj:)01:53
ninHerhi does anybody speak lakota ?01:53
BluesKajmandarin?01:53
imaginegotta love unicode01:53
axelorange01:53
BluesKaj!mn01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
BluesKaj:)01:53
ninHerperhaps Mega Natural .....something ?01:54
ninHer:-)01:54
boyeeHi all.How to use the wget to download all one site?01:54
boyeethe parameter is ?01:54
boyeeaxel?01:54
boyeeare you chinese?01:54
BluesKajwget the URL in the CLI then add the deb address to the sourceslist01:54
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ninHerwget [option] ... [URL] ...01:55
ninHerboyee: use man fron a console......better01:55
boyeeI use man but I cann't decide which one is I need.I use the wget -r -p -np -k www.xxxx.com/doc01:56
boyeeBut I download all of them.It's not what I want,I only want the doc directory and it's subdirectory.01:56
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mobtekhmmm does anyone know where I set the kdm resolution? it's very low atm :)01:59
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mobtek!kdm resolution02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
Sandeepc!fixres | mobtek02:00
ubotumobtek: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:00
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mobtekthanks02:01
Sandeepcnp02:01
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frankyhi!!!02:06
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frankyi've a problem...i don't know how to play avi files on kubuntu.pls help02:07
franky:-)02:07
matscodein, player ect..02:08
matsmplayer*02:08
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matscodeine*02:08
imaginefranky: you need to codec02:08
imagineKaffeine...02:08
imaginenot codeine02:08
frankykaffeine doesn't work02:08
imaginefranky: get the codecs02:08
imagine!codec02:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:08
frankyi've installed vlc and the audio works but the screen is black02:09
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JancoDoes it exist an mobile manager for sony Ericsson ?02:09
imaginefranky: have you read ^^02:09
Jancoworking with bluetooth02:09
frankyyes tnx02:10
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Jancodo you have a link to it?02:10
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imaginefranky: so you installed libdvdcss2 ?02:11
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deathplanterkde sets wrong resolution although i've typed correct in xorg.conf. what's wrong?02:14
CugelDoes anyone know where icon files for minimized apps (that is, the icons shown in the kicker) are located? I can't find them.02:14
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imagineCugel: kmenu.png located if I remember in ~/.kde02:16
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imagineI'd suggest you search for kmenu.png within the ~/.kde folder02:16
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CugelYeah that one's easy. But for example the Amarok icon, the Thunderbird icon...02:16
deathplanterwhat's called this annoying app that sets resolution in kde?02:16
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_StefanS_deathplanter: krandrtray02:17
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|lostbyte|lol02:17
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deathplanter_StefanS_: if i uninstall it, will resolution be read from xorg.conf?02:17
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_StefanS_deathplanter: should be in any case, but yes.02:18
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_StefanS_deathplanter: you might have krandrtray overriding02:18
|lostbyte|deathplanter, both ways its read from xorg.conf..02:18
deathplanterdamnit,i can't find it anywhere02:19
deathplanterare you sure you didn't do any typo writing its name?02:19
deathplanteror maybe it's in some other packet?02:19
|lostbyte|nope, its right.02:19
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deathplanterafk sec02:20
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Sandeepcmy external hdd is not being mounted, it does get detected and kubun asks me whther to 'open in a new window' but no matter what i select, nothing happens. What should be done?02:22
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|lostbyte|Sandeepc, thats the way it has to be done, look in /media/02:23
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deathplanter_StefanS_: damn, i can't find this krandrtray.02:24
deathplanterapt-get remove kradrtray doesn't really work02:24
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sy135_hi leutz02:24
sy135_i've got a problem with jre 1.402:25
sy135_if it is started in mozilla mozilla is going to hung up02:25
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dromerdamnit, I keep getting kernel panics (well that's what someone told me earlier it was) on feisty this week02:26
dromercan someone help me find out the problem and how to fix it?02:26
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_StefanS_deathplanter: just quit it, so it wont start the next time you login02:26
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fdovingdeathplanter: it's in the kcontrol package, so i guess you don't want to remove it.02:27
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_StefanS_don't really see the issue with krandrtray02:28
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Jancocan someone help me with installation of a mce keyboard driver?02:31
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spawn57Janco: mce keyboard? the media center keyboard?02:33
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FOADHi.02:36
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FOADIs it possible to change the minimized systray icons (in the kicker)?  How?02:37
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Linux_GaloreFOAD: yes02:45
FOADLinux_Galore: thanks for answering my first question.  Can you help me with the second one?02:46
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Linux_GaloreFOAD: moust over kicker then right click -> configure panel then arrangement, the icons resize to match the panel02:47
Linux_Galoremouse*02:47
Linux_GaloreFOAD: change the panel size and that changes the icons02:47
FOADOk thanks.02:48
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erikja!samba02:49
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:49
Linux_GaloreFOAD: might want to look at the appearance section then click on advanced, hide the applet handles02:50
spawn57hi, is it posible for me to recompile the nfs module to enable acls?02:50
Linux_Galorespawn57: I dont think nfs has anything to do with acl's02:51
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spawn57nfs3 and 4 support acls, ubuntu's kernel doesn't have'em enabled though02:52
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Linux_Galorespawn57: nope Im wrong nfs3 does acl's02:53
spawn57Linux_Galore: learn something new everyday hehe02:54
athena!acl02:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:54
athena...02:54
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Linux_Galore!nfs03:00
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.03:01
Linux_Galorewonder what the default version of NFS is on Ubuntu feisty ie do they use nfs403:01
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Linux_Galore!package nfs03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about package nfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
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nbcb!rar03:04
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:04
nbcbhow to unrar03:04
nbcb!info unrar-free03:04
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB03:05
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mats!bz203:08
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression03:08
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spawn57!omgwtfbbq03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about omgwtfbbq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
spawn57ah well03:11
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mats!cybersex03:13
mats;)03:13
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LjL!botabuse03:13
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...03:13
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Tm_Tspawn57: mats: behave03:14
matsTm_T: ;) sorry03:14
|ericsson|When I try to force-reload/reload/start bind, I get rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused, all the time03:14
|ericsson|/var/log/syslog gives me none:0: open: /etc/bind/named.conf: permission denied even though I'm running as root03:15
Tm_T|ericsson|: check ownership of named.conf03:15
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|ericsson|Tm_T: -rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 1611 2007-02-20 15:40 /etc/bind/named.conf03:16
Tm_Tinteresting03:16
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|ericsson|Tm_T: you'd think ;)03:16
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CVirusw03:18
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frankyhi!03:18
frankyi've a problem03:18
frankywhen i open adept_installer03:18
matsare you a problem?03:18
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CVirustest03:18
|ericsson|CVirus: test worked03:19
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frankythe program says that another program is using the packages03:19
frankywhat do i have to do?!03:19
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|ericsson|franky: have you got it open in GUI?03:19
CVirus|ericsson|: was testing dcop .. sorry :-)03:19
|ericsson|CVirus: :)03:19
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franky????03:20
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|ericsson|franky: are you writing commands on the command line or are you starting a program?03:20
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frankyi'm starting adept_installer03:20
|ericsson|franky: since you can't do both at the same time, i.e. if you have a window with adept open and run it from the command line at the same time, then it will fail03:21
frankybut i don't know the name of the other program!03:21
frankyhow can i close it?!03:22
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frankyi wanted to close it using the process list03:22
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frankybut i don't know its name!03:23
amachuhi03:23
amachuanyone used kasablanca03:23
amachuits not rendering unicode text prperly03:23
amachuany other ftp client in kde, that render's unicode text properly03:23
imaginefranky: you either started apt- in command line or you close an other adept-installer instance by killing it which made the database to still be locked.. it's one or the other, really03:24
IdleOne!ftp03:24
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd03:24
chijinamachu: konqueror03:24
amachukonqueror has ftp client03:24
amachu??03:24
chijinyes03:24
imagineamachu: of course, Kpart..03:24
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chijinjust type ftp:// and your address03:25
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frankyok how can i close apt- in command line?!03:25
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frankypls hlep03:25
amachuchijin: http://www.osresources.com/3_19_en.html03:25
erniefranky - whats on your screen right now? as in are you running KDE or Gnome?03:25
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amachuchijin: go this help link03:25
amachuthank u03:25
frankykde03:26
amachu:-)03:26
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imaginefranky: why don't you explain us what you did instead of being as vague as the midget that walks down the street( sry there's actually a midget walking down the street hahah)03:26
frankyokok03:26
frankysorry03:26
frankyi was looking for03:26
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frankycodecs for kaffeine03:26
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frankyand i read about ubuntu-restricted-extras03:26
erniefranky - so you've got KDE running - did you run the Adept-Manager from your KDE?03:27
frankyi opened adept_manager03:27
BluesKajhow does one connectto another pc using a mac address?03:27
ernieimagine - nice one :)03:27
frankyand i lounched the installation03:27
imagineernie: hehe ;)03:27
erniefranky - ok and what happened when you did that?03:27
frankyit worked but03:27
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frankymaybe i've stopped it03:27
frankyand adept-manager closed03:28
imagineI love the "it worked but" part03:28
frankythen i've tried to re-open adept-manager03:28
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ernieimagine: for sure :)03:28
shawn34Does Kleansweep really work? How much can I trust it?03:28
frankyand it said that another program was using the back...of packages03:28
frankysomething like that03:29
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weedarIs it possible to search through a tar file without untaring it first?03:29
erniefranky - so it was open - you closed it - you're reopened it and then ....03:29
irvkencan I install google earth with adept03:29
aleksanteriwhere's the kbfx conf file located at? the configurator doesn't really do what i tell it to do :/03:29
frankythen the program told me that another03:29
erniefranky - did you Close it or have you just minimized it?03:29
imaginedatabase is locked .. don't know how to manually unlock it in Kubuntu, I guess it's __rpm.00003:30
weedarirvken: yeah, use the medibuntu repository ( http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com )03:30
frankyyes03:30
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frankydatabase locked03:30
imaginefranky: answers ernie's question03:30
frankymaybe it is03:30
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erniefranky - you had adpet manager running - then you closed it- then you re ran it and it says something else is running to stop it - What happened in between do you think?03:31
ajushowto browse files on sony ericsson k608?  help pls03:31
stivanifranky: try this in a terminal window: sudo killall apt-get03:31
ernieor didn't happen :)03:31
frankyok03:31
aleksanteriwhere's the kbfx conf file located at? the configurator doesn't really do what i tell it to do :/03:31
stivanifranky: and then try running adept again03:31
frankyi trie03:31
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ajusi try lsub, i get "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0fce:d017 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB K608i Phone".... how to mount it, so i can explore the files?03:32
imaginefranky: this is not windows, you seem to be new to linux and I'll give you this advice, we don't care that you did something wrong, we care on fixing it with you, so next time, explains what you did too screw your machine up, better you explain the steps you have made before making it happen, better and easier it will be for us to help you understand your box so you don't do it next time03:32
frankyok03:33
frankyi'm sorry03:33
ernieimagine: yeah - when you do yo uend up answering your own questions sometimes :)03:33
imagineernie: hahaha yeah :) I am speaking from experience ;)03:34
frankyi tried sudo killall apt-get03:34
|ericsson|franky: It take practice to learn linux and experience comes from making mistakes and practice on fixing them03:34
frankyi know03:34
franky:-(03:34
frankyi tried sudo killall apt-get03:34
erniefranky: no probs - hey I spent a wee while trying to figure why my partitoner was seeing "another drive" with a 2048 byte sectors - the problem was the IPOD :)03:35
|ericsson|ernie: :)03:35
frankybut doesn't work03:35
frankyi think apt-get is running03:35
frankymaybe i need a command to close it03:35
|ericsson|franky: can you type: top03:35
ajushelp pls.. anyone...03:36
frankybut i don't know :-(03:36
erniefranky: can you see it down in your task bar?03:36
stivanifranky: sudo killall apt-get should close apt-get if it's running :)03:36
|ericsson|!ask > ajus03:36
frankyi trie again03:36
aleksanterifranky: i don't see any other option than to restart X03:36
aleksanteriunless there is some command to close apt03:36
|ericsson|one way to go is to top, kill the PID for apt if it's running03:37
frankyhow???03:37
erniewas waiting for that :)03:37
|ericsson|franky: you are in the terminal now?03:37
frankyyes03:37
|ericsson|franky: ok, simply type: top03:37
frankydone03:38
ajus:( ... bye03:38
frankythen??03:38
|ericsson|franky: that should give you a list of processes running on your system03:38
frankyok03:38
frankyit does it03:38
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|ericsson|franky:  can you see apt in that list?03:38
weedarI think franky might still be running an adept-process, why not do a "ps aux | grep adept" in a konsole to see if that is the fact?03:38
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aleksanteri!asl | ajus03:39
aleksanteri!ask | ajus03:39
aleksanteribah too late03:39
imagineahah03:39
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frankyno03:39
frankythere is no apt03:39
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ubotuajus: Most of us don't speak American Sign Language, please try english instead. 03:39
ubotuajus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:39
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aleksanteri:o ubotu was lagging03:39
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frankyi don't see any apt03:41
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imaginewhat's the file that locks the rpm ?03:41
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|ericsson|franky: ok, press q to stop running the top overview03:41
imaginewlel not the rpm but the package database?03:41
erniefranky: did you try what weedar suggested - I'm running my adept-manager - and it shows up in there03:41
weedarfranky: if you write "ps aux | grep adept" in a konsole, do you get any output?03:41
frankyok i trie03:42
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frankyyes03:42
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frankysomething has gone out03:42
weedarfranky: join #spam and paste the output there  so I can see03:43
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imagineweedar: paste bin?03:44
weedar....or use a pastebin ;)03:44
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|ericsson|franky: ?03:44
frankyi need to be invited03:44
imaginelol03:44
frankyi can't join03:44
aleksanterifranky: http://pastebin.com/03:44
aleksanteripaste it there03:44
aleksanteriand give the url to the paste03:44
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Alarmfranky,  sorry for telling u to repeat, but whats the problem ? :)03:45
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blekoshi, i bought a 320gb external hd, but it seems to be only 298gb, does it have to do with linux or smg?03:46
frankymmmmmmmmmmmm03:46
Psychosssalut francky03:46
Alarmblekos,  it has to do with the companies03:46
aleksanteri!en | Psychoss03:46
ubotuPsychoss: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat03:46
Alarmselling trick03:46
imaginepo de francais03:46
Psychosshi03:46
Alarmblekos,  they use basis10 and not 203:47
asincronohi03:47
blekoson the box says 1gb=1billion bytes03:47
weedarfranky: are you able to paste the output to pastebin?03:47
frankyQuery failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)03:47
Psychossi read somewhere that i must change of graphic cards for ubuntu it's an prophet 450003:47
aleksanterifranky: use http://pastebin.ca/03:47
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asincronowhere can I find a repository list for ubuntu?03:47
Alarmblekos,  it has nothing to do with the OS03:47
Alarmit has to do with the basis as a told u03:47
blekosbut aint supposed 2 b divided by 1024?03:47
tsdgeosPsychoss: it should work, i had it on the past, the problem is that it does not has any driver so basilly you are left with bare minimum03:47
Alarmfor them . 1gb = 1,000mb . in the real world . 1gb = 1024mb ,03:47
imagineblekos: they round it down03:47
Alarmso if they give you 1gb its not 1024mb  :)03:48
erniefranky: yep it seems pastebin.com is pasted03:48
frankydoneeeee03:48
Alarmimagine,  its not a rounding03:48
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aleksanterifranky: give the url to the paste03:48
imagineAlarm: ???03:48
frankyhttp://pastebin.ca/47387003:48
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asincronoAlarm: 1mb = 1000 b in Networks telecomunications world ... and 1024 in compubiers "binary" world03:49
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Psychossok what kind of g cards can i take?03:49
Psychossif i want change it03:49
Alarmnormally 1gb is = 1073741824kb03:49
jaimshi03:49
aleksanterifranky: seems normal03:49
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Alarmthey give you 1.000.000.000 kb , which means less than a gb03:49
weedarfranky: "sudo kill 5432 5729 5824" :)03:49
blekosagain 320*24=7068, i should have 7.1gb less03:49
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jaimses.archive.ubuntu.com03:49
frankyok i trie03:49
jaimsis the server off?03:49
weedaror skipp that first one, 5432, it's just the notifier03:49
Alarmtheir (companies) gb is 0.93gb but not 103:50
asincronojaims: I can't update from that server eigther03:50
jaimsaha03:50
asincrono... ouch ... sorry for that english :S03:50
jaimstoo many ubuntu people trying to update, i guess :)03:50
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blekosi c03:50
frankynothing03:50
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jaimsdont worry for english, mine not too god either03:50
blekoshow did u come up with the 0.93gb03:50
Alarmblekos,  320 gb = 320.000.000.000 kb (in their world) , divide this by 1024 , 1024 , 1024 and u will get ur real gb03:50
asincronobtw do u know where to find a repository list?03:51
weedarfranky: you are still not able to start adept?03:51
frankyno03:51
weedarodd03:51
Psychossthx tsdgeos :)03:51
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asincronoAlarm: ... in the telecomunications world 1 Byte = 10 bits... and it's normal03:51
Alarmdeviding by 1024 , 1024 has basis 2 , 2^1003:51
blekosu divide 3 times , for bytes, mb and gb right?03:51
Alarmasincrono,  here its computer world. there are also 7bit byte machines running. so what ?03:51
Alarmblekos,  correct03:52
blekosok got it03:52
blekosdamn them03:52
asincrono1k = 1000 in the "normal" world... and what?03:52
kekko_hi all03:52
Alarmasincrono,  in comp . science we dont have 10basis, but 203:52
frankynothing03:53
asincronobut networks are not only computers03:53
frankyadept doesn't work03:53
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Alarmasincrono,  i dont understand ur way of thinking. its not me i inveted binary system03:53
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asincronoI try to say that there is two normal ways of count bits03:54
asincronotelecomunications => 1k = 100003:54
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Alarmblekos,  do the divisions finally get u ur 298gb ? :) if yes ur hd is ok03:55
asincronoand computer => 1k = 102403:55
asincronothat's all03:55
blekosyes there are...03:55
Alarmsorry, for me that i study computer sciences , when someone tells me 1k , it means 2^1003:55
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Alarmand still 1 byte for me is 8 bits , unless we talk about ascii03:55
ubuntuhiya03:56
ubuntuJust got kubuntu03:56
|ericsson|franky: how about restarting your machine? :)03:56
aleksanterifranky: or X at least03:56
ernieAlarm - well I hope I never owe you 1k dollars :) I'll be short 24 bucks03:56
frankyok03:56
frankyi restart03:56
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frankyit03:56
Alarmfranky,  adepts manager gui is a bit buggy , i did have also some problems03:57
frankyok03:57
Alarmlike i was never asked again for a password , and such stuff and had to kill some processes03:57
frankyi restart03:57
Alarmdo so my son, come to the dark side03:57
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dr_willisAnyone else having issues with ktorrent crashing all the time?04:00
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frankyhey04:00
frankynothing has changed04:00
dr_willishowdy franky04:00
dettoaltrimenti_when I start X, I get this error popup- "Kdocker: no system tray found." am I missing a package?04:00
erniedr_willis : I've only used it under 6.10 and it seemed ok - I'm 7.04ing now04:01
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dr_willisernie,  right - used to work fine for me. Now it seems to crash every 40 min or so04:01
imaginefranky: nothing has changed? what do you mean?04:02
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dr_willis!ntfs04:02
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:02
frankyi can't open adept04:02
dr_willisHmm.04:02
dettoaltrimenti_franky- what does it say when you try to open adept?04:02
erniedr_willis - unrelated but I had a few lockups tonight just moving some big files around - very strange - although - I was doing "Other Stuff"04:02
BlackBsdis there any way to install kubuntu from a running linux system?04:02
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jaimsbye all04:02
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frankyit says that another program is using the database packages04:03
imaginefranky: like I said earlier, better you explain, better we help, what is the error messahe