[12:14] <hdxx> scrubb: if you don't have a lot of datas on hard disk, just format, and i will tell you how to install drivers
[12:15] <scrubb> hdxx, I just installed fiesty this morning...I'd rather not do it all over again...
[12:15] <lobster> anyone familiar with system settings module in Kubuntu?
[12:15] <mehmet> lobster:  can i enable Desktop-Effects on kubuntu as like ubuntu?
[12:16] <lobster> mehmet: IDK, never ran ubuntu...
[12:16] <hdxx> scrubb: hm i don't know then,, sorry
[12:16] <mehmet> lobster:  IDK ???
[12:17] <scrubb> hdxx, which line in xorg.conf are you interested in?
[12:17] <lobster> mehmet: I run it by typing this on the run line: beryl-manager
[12:17] <mehmet> lobster: how can enable complix on kubuntu?
[12:17] <hdxx> scrubb: look in device "driver"
[12:17] <ejupin> anyone have an idea how I can get my usb microphone to work?
[12:17] <harzi> hm, i canot sudo adept_installer. it simply starts nothing
[12:17] <makuseru> how can i extract a password protected rar (i have the pass) in a terminal?
[12:17] <mehmet> lobster:  ok it started
[12:17] <luapv> scrubb: did you try lynx? its a text based browser
[12:18] <scrubb> hdxx, driver says "nv"
[12:18] <hdxx> harzi: ps aux .. maybe already running
[12:18] <hdxx> scrubb: change to nvidia
[12:18] <mehmet> lobster:  when i choose beryl desktop manager, it is not make anything :(
[12:18] <hdxx> and then try
[12:18] <scrubb> ok
[12:18] <lobster> mehmet: I keep that on my desktop, so i can start it whenever I please...
[12:18] <harzi> adept_notifier runs
[12:18] <scrubb> hdxx, does it matter that Identifier says "Generic Video Card"?
[12:19] <harzi> but not the installer...
[12:19] <TeleSkier> lobster: I need to transfer some packages on a computer with a freshly installed kubuntu Feisty which has not (not yet) an internet connection. I think I could use a USB memory for that. Now, where are all the  .deb packages stored in my computer (if they are kept after installation) ?
[12:19] <hdxx> harzi: sudo kill -9 ID and run again
[12:19] <hdxx> scrubb: no just change driver to "nvidia"
[12:19] <harzi> hmpf, i think i am going to reinstall *without* a root-account, i dont really need it
[12:19] <lobster> mehmet: update me when you can
[12:19] <mehmet> lobster:  i think beryl will not working my pc :(
[12:20] <mehmet> lobster:  how can i update?
[12:20] <scrubb> hdxx, I'ma be a noob again...what's the best way to do that from command line?
[12:20] <lobster> TeleSkier: gimme a sec
[12:20] <TeleSkier> ok lobster
[12:20] <lobster> mehmet: what happened?
[12:21] <hdxx> scrubb: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. find "device" and then find "driver" and replace "nv" witz "nvidia" .. then CTRL +X .. then Y .. then ENTER
[12:21] <mehmet> lobster please remote my pc
[12:21] <scrubb> k
[12:21] <marccollin> hi
[12:21] <marccollin> there is not graphic installer for kubuntu?
[12:22] <mehmet> lobster:  88.234.43.55
[12:22] <hdxx> marccollin: sure it is.. download deskop version
[12:22] <lobster> mehmet: gimme a second
[12:22] <mehmet> lobster:  ok
[12:23] <scrubb> hdxx, Ok.  made the change.  Now what?  startx?
[12:23] <hdxx> yes
[12:24] <scrubb> hdxx, "Fatal server error...no screens found... X10   fatal IO error 104..."
[12:24] <[tan0S] > hello, pleas helpme, i need a 2cpu machine, and i need to install the kernel image...
[12:24] <[tan0S] > i dont what to do...
[12:25] <marccollin> don't have graphic install....... only install in text mode, text mode install for manufacturers......
[12:25] <Daisuke_Ido> marccollin: then you downloaded the wrong cd
[12:25] <Daisuke_Ido> download desktop, not alternate
[12:25] <hdxx> scrubb: don't know then :S try to reboot and then startx
[12:25] <[tan0S] > sorry, i have a 2cpu machine and i need to install the kernel image to manage both cpus, any want to helpme?
[12:26] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[12:26] <Daisuke_Ido> like a dual core?
[12:26] <[tan0S] > nop
[12:26] <[tan0S] > 2 pIII in a dell machine
[12:26] <Daisuke_Ido> meh, it should work the same either way.  the default kernel should see both processors
[12:27] <marccollin> ok thanks
[12:27] <[tan0S] > mmm ./top dont show me de both proc
[12:27] <lobster> TeleSkier: ok look here: http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/03/simple-way-to-update-ubuntu-edgy-with-slowno-internet-connection/
[12:27] <scrubb> hdxx, I wonder if X is partially running already?  How would I check for and kill it?
[12:28] <[tang0S] > how can i check that both process are running?
[12:28] <hdxx> scrubb: just reboot and try to login in kde
[12:28] <TeleSkier> lobster:  many thanks!
[12:28] <lobster> teleSkier: it says that they should be saved here: /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/
[12:28] <marccollin> does we can install 32 bits program under the 64 bits release easily?
[12:28] <[tang0S] > im in kubuntu
[12:29] <Drew3> Hi Folks.
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> processor 0 and processor 1, should be
[12:30] <[tang0S] > cool!!!
[12:30] <[tang0S] > im a f** noob
[12:30] <lobster> mehmet: ok where were we?
[12:31] <mehmet> lobster: ok
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> [tang0S] : don't feel bad, i've been using this full time for about 6 months and don't know a whole lot yet :D
[12:31] <eljak> [tang0S] : in the docs they tell you what to do in case you have multiple processors so you either have to chose a kernel that supports smp or compile one
[12:32] <mehmet> lobster: where are you?
[12:32] <Drew3> I have had a KDE set-up for my 85 year old Mom for about 2 (? 5.04 ) , I want to update things  bit.  I made icons and text to huge sizes.  Question;  will these settings  transfer to 6.10?
[12:32] <lobster> mehmet: what is your ip?
[12:32] <mehmet> lobster:  88.234.43.55
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Drew3: probably not, as you'll have to go from 5.04 to 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10
[12:33] <[tang0S] > Daisuke_Ido> i read the docs, but i dont know how compile a kernel image or how to download... the default repository of apt dont have a smp image
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> four upgrades without something going wrong is not probably with the old versions
[12:34] <[tang0S] > muchas gracias a todos!!! thanks!!!
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> [tang0S] : because the newer versions of (ku/u)buntu have replaced -386 and -686 with -generic
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> which i believe installs what the machine needs
[12:35] <mehmet> lobster: ??
[12:35] <Drew3> Daisuke_Ido:  Thank you,    I have an hour or two to make the change then I Live two hours away.     I think I will leave it alone.
[12:37] <Cnl_Delta> Drew3: ya could get an extra HDD and mirror 5.10, upgrade the new HDD and see how it goes
[12:39] <makuseru> !GTK2 Development package
[12:39] <makuseru> !GTK2
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <makuseru> !GTK2 Development
[12:41] <Drew3> Ya, but, not enough time.  Anyone know if Xbunbtu Icon's and text can be made larger?   KDE is a a tiny bit slow on this old P3 of hers.
[12:42] <biovore> apt-get install xorg-dev libgtk2.0-dev
[12:42] <scrubb> hdxx, I figured it out.
[12:42] <hdxx> scrubb: nice :)
[12:43] <scrubb> hdxx, somehow xorg.conf had the wrong PCI BusID set for "device"
[12:43] <jrick> is anyone else having problems that they can't use Digg with Konqueror, so nothing can be digged?
[12:43] <jrick> everytime I click on digg, nothing happens
[12:43] <scrubb> the error when I typed startx told me which busID it was looking on, so I put that in xorg.conf and it worked.
[12:44] <hdxx> nice to hear thet:9
[12:44] <hdxx> that
[12:45] <scrubb> Now I just need to figure how to access the driver's configuration (is there a GUI?) and get my second monitor working...
[12:45] <harzi> yepp, that gui i will need too
[12:46] <lobster> anyone familiar with the display module of systemsettings
[12:46] <lexi__> hallo
[12:46] <scrubb> woops...
[12:49] <hydraulx> join irc://irc.rizon.net/4chan
[12:54] <phpcode> is it possible to reset kubuntu to where i installed it, without reinstalling kubuntu??
[12:57] <Yorokobi>  phpcode reset what exactly?
[12:57] <malik__> hi ther.......how do i run photoshop in linux?
[12:57] <LjL> !virtualizers
[12:57] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[12:57] <LjL> !equivalents
[12:57] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[12:58] <phpcode> Yorokobi: all settings and changes that i have done.
[12:58] <Yorokobi> phpcode, to KDE or something else?
[12:59] <malik__> i am trying to use Krita gimp and digikam but they are annoying the living day lights out of me
[12:59] <LjL> phpcode: no. the changes that you made as a normal user are easily undone by... creating another user. the changes you made as root cannot be easily undone.
[12:59] <malik__> i have to do one task in one n sec in other
[12:59] <LjL> malik__: then run it under wine
[01:00] <malik__> some have some features and some have none....so i was wondering if photoshop can be run on linux as some ppl say its a good photo editing software
[01:00] <LjL> yes, it can, under wine, otherwise i wouldn't have pointed to it.
[01:00] <stdin> under wine, maybe. nativity, no
[01:00] <LjL> !wine
[01:00] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:01] <malik__> LjL: so i install Wine first and then it will install photoshop natively on that?
[01:01] <LjL> malik__: i'm not sure what you mean with the "it will install photoshop natively" part.
[01:02] <stdin> malik__: you install wine, then download photoshop and install it _with_ wine
[01:02] <stdin> malik__: then you can run it _under_ wine
[01:03] <malik__> oki but i will abe to install by double clickin the exe file?
[01:03] <LjL> malik__: you could also check out Pixel32. it's a commercial application (with a demo version i think), but it's available for Linux natively, and it basically tries to emulate PS as much as possible.
[01:03] <LjL> malik__, well, i suggest you read the link.
[01:03] <stdin> malik__: only if you associate .exe files with wine
[01:03] <phpcode> Yorokobi: i want to "go back in time" when i hadn't changed settings or installed programs on kubuntu.
[01:04] <malik__> pixel32 is a photo edinting software?
[01:04] <Yorokobi> phpcode, that's sufficiently vague ...
[01:04] <ev> lol
[01:04] <LjL> no, it's a car racing simulator.
[01:04] <malik__> but i dont need car racing simulater
[01:05] <LjL> malik__: what did i say?
[01:05] <LjL> [01:03:18]  <LjL> malik__: you could also check out Pixel32. it's a commercial application (with a demo version i think), but it's available for Linux natively, and it basically tries to emulate PS as much as possible.
[01:05] <LjL> try reading,.
[01:05] <harzi> i think there is also a gimp-mod that it is usable like photoshop
[01:06] <thingy> !gimpshop
[01:06] <ubotu> gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[01:06] <harzi> ah gimpshop
[01:09] <aldin> hi, anyne knows how to install some addon of firefox2 so it doesnt get deleted after rm -rf .mozilla folder?
[01:13] <redfive> anyone good with grub?
[01:14] <scrubb> redfive, what do you want to do?
[01:15] <redfive> well
[01:15] <redfive> i have kubuntu on a SATA drive
[01:15] <redfive> i have a nother OS on the firct IDE chanel master, how do i ad it to grub?
[01:16] <biovore> redfive: you might have this weird problem with the bios having different drive ID's then what linux shows..  Make grub setup very confusing.
[01:16] <biovore> redfive: other OS..  you mean windows?
[01:16] <redfive> um, different OS
[01:16] <biovore> what OS?
[01:16] <redfive> OSX
[01:16] <biovore> I think you can just chainload OSx
[01:17] <biovore> from grub
[01:17] <redfive> how?
[01:17] <biovore> its the same as booting windows
[01:17] <redfive> i have grub setup to boot to vista bootloader already
[01:17] <redfive> i just dont know the syntax
[01:17] <biovore> well I don't have any dual boxes here atm..
[01:18] <redfive> ubuntu in grub says (hd0,1)
[01:18] <redfive> what would the first IDE be to grub?
[01:19] <stdin> look in /boot/grub/device.map
[01:19] <thingy> redfive: what disk is set up as the boot drive in the bios, where is grub installed?
[01:19] <biovore> well if you look at the grub config for windows.. just copy it and change the drive/partion its using.
[01:20] <comodo> can someone help me with a beryl problem ive been having
[01:20] <redfive> grub in on its one partition /boot on the fron of the first SATA
[01:21] <redfive> so i add a mapping in device.map?
[01:21] <redfive> whats the first IDE drive? /dev/hda?
[01:21] <scrubb> redfive, grub should already have mapped all your hard drives at installation
[01:21] <scrubb> How many disks do you have?
[01:22] <redfive> this OS was installed after grub
[01:22] <scrubb> ah ha
[01:22] <redfive> i have 4 SATAs, and 1 IDE
[01:22] <scrubb> still, how many disks do you have?
[01:22] <scrubb> and OSX is on the one IDE?
[01:22] <redfive> yes
[01:23] <redfive> IDE had to be master on the first IDE chanel
[01:23] <scrubb> right
[01:23] <redfive> do I add the device to drvice.map?
[01:23] <redfive> or can i get grub to do it
[01:23] <scrubb> In /boot/grub/device.map add a new line (hdx),    /dev/hda
[01:23] <redfive> got it
[01:24] <scrubb> x is incremented from whatever's the last one in there.
[01:24] <scrubb> so if you have hd0 and hd1, this line is hd2
[01:24] <redfive> got it
[01:24] <redfive> right
[01:24] <redfive> the i add entry in menu.lst?
[01:24] <comodo> can someone tell me the commmand to check for direct rendering
[01:25] <scrubb> yeah
[01:25] <mc__> comodo:  glxinfo | grep rendering
[01:25] <redfive> would it be (hd3,0) ?
[01:25] <scrubb> the number after the comma is the partition
[01:25] <redfive> ok
[01:25] <scrubb> so if it's the first partition, yes.
[01:25] <redfive> the only partition
[01:25] <redfive> ok
[01:25] <mc__> mc__: if it says Direct Rendering:Yes,it works
[01:25] <redfive> what about the chainloader line?
[01:26] <redfive> it says +1 like the vista entry
[01:26] <comodo> well when i try to run compiz or beryl my bar on top of windows that shows the minimize maxamize and close buttons gos away
[01:27] <cables> !effects | comodo
[01:27] <ubotu> comodo: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[01:27] <redfive> um, do i do something to re-initlize grub with the settings?
[01:27] <scrubb> redfive, here's the GRUB website: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
[01:28] <scrubb> I didn't have to do much editing of my grub configurations, so I haven't learned everything yet.
[01:30] <Cnl_Delta> dealing with grub is childs play compared to partition tables
[01:30] <lobster> I'm here to help...
[01:30] <meuhlol> Hello all! If there are someone who can help me with VirtualBox please?
[01:30] <lobster> but not that.
[01:30] <scrubb> I just haven't had to really dig into it.
[01:31] <Cnl_Delta> i heard its best not to install xp after ubuntu
[01:31] <Cnl_Delta> with the right guide, its a 3 min job
[01:31] <harzi> ok, now i am *without* root account and can access de adept-things... something seams not to work with kubuntu when selecting the root account in the expert-installer
[01:31] <meuhlol> Cnl_Delta: if it for VB it's right
[01:32] <meuhlol> harzi, sudo su
[01:32] <Cnl_Delta> eugh i just had to re-install everything after a NTFS resize and move busted kubuntu and xp, not interested in vm ware fora  while
[01:33] <meuhlol> Cnl_Delta: i'm at kubuntu feisty fawn (7.04), i run VirtualBox, and installed WinXP Home sp1 into, works great :) just i dunno how import my files from kubuntu to win emulated xD
[01:33] <meuhlol> Cnl_Delta: VirtualBox != Vmware Player ;) And for ntfs resizing you have ntfsresize tool for nux :)
[01:34] <Cnl_Delta> kubuntu to win on hdd is easy..
[01:34] <thingy> meuhlol: vbox has shared folders...
[01:34] <Cnl_Delta> i used gparted
[01:34] <meuhlol> thingy: where?
[01:34] <meuhlol> where is for linux?
[01:34] <lunar-raven> !compiz
[01:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:34] <thingy> meuhlol: in essense it has a mini samba server running and you can map linux dirs as drives in windows
[01:34] <Cnl_Delta> which crippled the partition tables
[01:35] <meuhlol> Cnl_Delta: try to use ntfsresize (just google it)
[01:36] <Cnl_Delta> well meuhlol. the partitions are more or less gone now
[01:36] <thingy> meuhlol: http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=103   search for words "Shared Host drives"
[01:36] <Cnl_Delta> its a whole new kubuntu on my hdd
[01:37] <meuhlol> Cnl_Delta: gone? oO what soft you used for?
[01:37] <Cnl_Delta> gparted
[01:38] <meuhlol> Cnl_Delta, I make those steps: 1) Low level format 2) Installing Edgy Eft (6.10) 3) Update failed 4) DL Feisty Fawn 5) Install Feisty on Edgy Eft 6) All works great
[01:39] <Cnl_Delta> i could use  grub, and see the splash screen of xp and kubuntu but no login
[01:40] <biovore> no login ?
[01:40] <meuhlol> sudo su for root
[01:43] <Cnl_Delta> weird, grub worked fine, xp and kubunu loads up but screen blanks out where i'm supposed to log in
[01:46] <harzi> for nvidia-3d-acceleration: i have to download the one from nvidia's webpage, right? nvidia-glx package seam not to work for me...
[01:46] <stdin> harzi: how about nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[01:46] <harzi> hm...
[01:47] <lobster> harzi: just use the nvidia driver, unless you have issue with closed source software, it works great.
[01:47] <lobster> the website one worked great for me
[01:48] <stdin> until you update your kernel anyway
[01:48] <Cnl_Delta> q: what should one do if their nvidia card stops working and they need to go to their onbard. how do they use shell to enable vesa drivers instead of nvidias?
[01:48] <lobster> all: glad to help you while I am waiting on my question
[01:48] <stdin> then you'll have to reinstall from the command line
[01:48] <harzi> hm, i get dependency problems while installing the ubuntu--nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:49] <stdin> Cnl_Delta: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[01:49] <Cnl_Delta> too bad x just doesn't default to vesa
[01:49] <stdin> harzi: what dependency problems ?
[01:49] <lobster> stdin: yeah, but it's only one command and you are done.  in fact you could whip up a script to auto run it un kernel upgrade and drop it your boot
[01:49] <lobster> up
[01:50] <stdin> lobster: or just use the packaged versions, which are just the ones from the website in a .deb. and not all users want to have to do that
[01:50] <harzi> stdin: hm, in adept i don't see details
[01:51] <stdin> harzi: open up konsole and do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[01:51] <stdin> intelikey: UN-root huh? :P
[01:51] <intelikey> #debian wont allow root
[01:52] <intelikey> ;/
[01:52] <lobster> stdin: true enough, but there have been issues with those as well.  what is glx-new?
[01:52] <harzi> stdin: i think it was nvidia-xconfig, i removed it and now i could install nvidia-glx-new
[01:52] <Prisoner_> hello
[01:52] <harzi> let see if it works
[01:52] <intelikey> [17180021.332000]  PPP: VJ uncompressed error
[01:52] <intelikey> [17180021.500000]  PPP: VJ uncompressed error
[01:52] <stdin> lobster: glx-new is for newer cards, -glx is for slightly older, and -glx-legacy is for old cards
[01:52] <intelikey> ?
[01:53] <lobster> stdin: when was that started?
[01:53] <stdin> harzi: yeah, nvidia-xconfig is built in now
[01:53] <stdin> lobster: from the feisty release (afaik)#
[01:53] <Prisoner_> my Nvideo GeForce is a little over 2 years old
[01:54] <intelikey> ok howto translate the output of "showkeys"  ?>
[01:54] <harzi> stdin: a nvidia6200 is therefore??? old??? glx-new seams not to work for me
[01:55] <stdin> harzi: it's from the point-of-view of nvidia, not the ubuntu devs
[01:55] <stdin> they make the drivers
[01:55] <Yorokobi> harzi, the -new drivers work for my 6200
[01:56] <Filthpig> harzi: you have to restart X for changes to take effect
[01:56] <lobster> stdin: dig it.  have they figured out how to save the settings from Nvidia x server settings?
[01:56] <harzi> i restarted kdm from console 1
[01:57] <killermach_> ok.. I found my missing choices on KDE logout.. this happens when you use gdm, switched to kdm and it works great now :)
[01:57] <stdin> lobster: don't know, I don't use nvidia hardware :p
[01:58] <lobster> stdin: intel?
[01:58] <thingy> lobster: nvidia provide a command line utility for modifying the xorg.conf file...it can also do the reverse which is to query the file and dump the nvidia settings...what are you trying to figure out/do?
[01:58] <Prisoner_> I have a GeForce FX5500 128mb RAM.
[01:58] <stdin> lobster: yeah, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:58] <Prisoner_> I installed Feisty Fawn and haven't upgraded the driver, wonder if I should
[01:59] <harzi> Yorokobi: do you have framebuffer enabled?
[02:00] <Yorokobi> probably
[02:00] <lobster> stdin: 945? hdcp?
[02:00] <harzi> hehe, i have... i try to disable now
[02:01] <stdin> lobster: no, not on this one
[02:01] <stdin> lobster: don't think so anyway
[02:10] <see-g> is there anyone around who could tell me how to delay the execution of a command by ... let's say an hour?
[02:10] <Yorokobi> see-g, 'sleep 1h; command'
[02:11] <lobster> see-g or 'sleep 1h; command &'
[02:11] <lobster> if in console
[02:11] <see-g> console is fine with me
[02:11] <stdin> or with the run command dialog too
[02:12] <stdin> or even in a .desktop file
[02:12] <see-g> thanks (argh, now I've got to decide ... someone else gave me the hint "at (now+1h) (command)"
[02:13] <derekS> i just did a freshinstall of kubuntu and xine is playing movies funny, all have weird shades of green and purple shadows
[02:13] <derekS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410654 <--- kinda like that
[02:13] <derekS> any suggestions
[02:14] <stdin> see-g: yeah, you can do "at now + 1 hour command"
[02:15] <stdin> see-g: but that's more cron-like, ie you see no output, it's run in a new shell
[02:16] <see-g> stdin: thanks ... but sleep 75m && killall amarokapp is running now, that'll bring me through the night
[02:17] <see-g> (well ... combining listening to music with a huge download (30+GB) is no good when you're about to go to bed
[02:18] <stdin> see-g: well, I would have done "sleep 75m && dcop amarok player stop" but that's just me :)
[02:19] <lobster> see-g: smart!  did you also do a sleep 9h && amarokapp start?
[02:19] <stdin> there is actually an app to do thatr
[02:19] <stdin> *that
[02:19] <stdin> kalarm
[02:19] <aldin> how to set up pppoe server?
[02:19] <see-g> lobster: nope, I don't know when I'll get up and when I do I'll probably have to hurry up
[02:21] <lobster> ok bye all
[02:22] <stdin> later lobster
[02:22] <stdin> ooh, that kinda rhymes :)
[02:24] <lobster> doh! almost forgot, anyone know how to force a refresh rate in xorg?
[02:26] <thoreauputic> lobster:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and enter your vert and horiz rates ( leave the other settings at defaults, usually)
[02:26] <thingy> define a modeline and use the modeline in the Display subsection
[02:26] <lobster> that just puts me at default, I want to force it to run at 85Hz
[02:27] <thoreauputic> lobster: you answer the advanced questions and set your rate there
[02:27] <lobster> thingy: I was hoping to avoid having only one modeline
[02:28] <mantis> #ubuntu-it-chat
[02:28] <thingy> lobster: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/X11R6.9.0/doc/html/gtf.1.html  you dont have to have just the one...specify your desired regresh rates/ horiz/vert dimensions in gtf and let it create the lines for you
[02:31] <derekS> no one knows why my kaffeine videos are coming in all greenish and shadowy after a fresh install of kubuntu?
[02:32] <HymnToLife> derekS, all of them ?
[02:32] <derekS> HymnToLife: yeah
[02:32] <derekS> ones that worked fine before
[02:32] <HymnToLife> have you tried other players ?
[02:33] <derekS> HymnToLife: i don't have any others installed
[02:35] <Druntar> Hello folks
[02:37] <Druntar> ok can anyone help me with a mouse issue
[02:37] <Druntar> it cuts out sporadically
[02:37] <Druntar> hello?
[02:38] <Druntar> can anyone please help me with my mouse?
[02:39] <premier_> hello, I've been using kubuntu for since about november, and just recently my computer started to seem very laggy and slow... not sure how to diagnose it, but most of the time processor is at less that 10%, except when I'm opening programs or putting load
[02:40] <Druntar> good luck premier no one has answered me yet and I've been here about 5 mins
[02:40] <premier_> Druntar: whats you're problem?  Maybe I can help, or direct you better
[02:40] <premier_> btw, !ask
[02:40] <premier_> !ask
[02:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:44] <Druntar> ok
[02:44] <Druntar> My mouse keeps cutting out does anyone have any clue as to why?
[02:46] <Druntar> ok going to reboot. and get mouse back temorarily
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Druntar: our crystal balls are a little bit cloudy .... I think you need to supply more information about what is actually happening , preferably with some error messages
[02:46] <Druntar> don't have any
[02:46] <underdog5004> I've got the same problem, except it only happens when the screensaver comes up...
[02:47] <Druntar> I boot up mouse works fine
[02:47] <premier_> yeah, Druntar, could you give any details about you mouse?  What kind of mouse is it?
[02:47] <Druntar> I work for anywhere between 2 and 20 mins and it stops moving
[02:47] <Druntar> logitech g5 laser
[02:47] <premier_> usb?
[02:47] <Druntar> yesh
[02:47] <Druntar> yes*
[02:47] <premier_> you may have a defective usb bus
[02:47] <premier_> what kind of computer is it?
[02:48] <Druntar> custom build less then 3 months old
[02:48] <premier_> next time it happens, try unplugging it and pluging it back it
[02:48] <Druntar> lol it's like that right now I'll give that a shot
[02:49] <Druntar> ok all the lights in the mouse went off but other then that nadda
[02:49] <kane_> Is there any reason a DVD wouldnt be mountable under Kubuntu but is under windows?
[02:49] <_redondos> hi
[02:49] <Druntar> ok opened konsole and typed dmesg
[02:50] <Druntar> last three lines are usb 1-1: usb disconnect, address 2
[02:50] <dsmith> 7950gt ok under kubuntu?
[02:50] <Druntar> ohci_hcd 000:00:0b.0: IRQ intr_sf lossage
[02:51] <exconvictriddick> hai hai
[02:51] <Druntar> ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: lead ed dfc2c240 (#81) state 0 (has tds)
[02:52] <premier_> exconvictriddick: 
[02:52] <_redondos> I upgraded from dapper to edgy, and now during the boot, it says "mdadm: no devices in conf file were found"...
[02:52] <biovore> Mooo
[02:52] <premier_> _redondos: does everything work correctly?
[02:52] <Druntar> that's the only messages it's showing different from before unplug and replug
[02:52] <_redondos> first
[02:52] <noiesmo> kane_, what format is it.
[02:53] <_redondos> premier, how I send the messaage like you
[02:53] <kane_> noiesmo: i dont know, its a game dvd
[02:53] <_redondos> I mean, to colour my message to you
[02:53] <premier_> _redondos: you have to install scim, and i think skim, and also anthy, then you have to install a panel applet
[02:53] <premier_> oh I thought you meant japanese
[02:54] <Druntar> ok so does anyone have any idea what's going on with my mouse?
[02:54] <_redondos> _redondos: you have to install scim, and i think skim, and also anthy, then you have to install a panel applet
[02:54] <premier_> _redondos: all you have to do is type my name in the message
[02:54] <premier_> or whoever you're talking to
[02:54] <biovore> Premier:  <-- Japanese?
[02:54] <_redondos> premier_ like this ?
[02:54] <premier_> 
[02:54] <noiesmo> kane_, not sure
[02:54] <premier_> yeah
[02:54] <_redondos> ok
[02:54] <biovore> hehe..
[02:54] <_redondos> premier_ now I'm going to look that
[02:55] <_redondos> premier_ the problem
[02:55] <premier_> _redondos: some clients allow you to type part of the name and then press tab, and it will autocomplete
[02:55] <kane_> yeah, ive never had an issue with old linux just not being able to mount something
[02:55] <_redondos> premier_: ahhh
[02:55] <_redondos> premier_: yes!
[02:55] <_redondos> premier_: now
[02:55] <premier_> _redondos: you can look up a tutorial to install japanese support if you want
[02:55] <_redondos> premier_: I don't know japanese
[02:56] <premier_> nevermind then
[02:56] <Mena> Is there a way to make simple animated picture with inkscape ?
[02:56] <_redondos> premier_: well
[02:56] <noiesmo> kane_, you could try mount it with sudo mount /dev/hdx /media/cdromx replace x to suite your setup
[02:56] <_redondos> premier_: the problem is that when I boot
[02:57] <noiesmo> kane_, then its mounted by root least you'll se if it can be read
[02:57] <premier_> _redondos: yes?
[02:57] <_redondos> premier_: it stays giving me errors
[02:57] <kane_> hrm, good idea
[02:57] <_redondos> premier_: strange errors
[02:57] <noiesmo> kane_, but if its exe you will need to see if wine will run it
[02:57] <_redondos> premier_: of some devices
[02:57] <premier_> do you computer boot?  Like, are you able to get to the gui?
[02:57] <_redondos> premier_: yes ...
[02:57] <premier_> _redondos: half the battle
[02:57] <kane_> yeah, i've actually got it mounted in vmware right now.
[02:57] <premier_> _redondos: does everything else work correctly?
[02:57] <_redondos> premier_: but it stays a lot of time
[02:57] <_redondos> premier_: yes ...
[02:57] <premier_> _redondos: you mean it hangs?
[02:58] <kane_> i'll just yank what i need that way i think
[02:58] <premier_> _redondos: could you give me some idea what the errors are?
[02:58] <_redondos> premier_: no .. now I will activate bootlog
[02:58] <thingy> Druntar:  see if specifying the "noapic irqpoll pci=routeirq" boot params fixes the issue... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279626&page=2
[02:58] <_redondos> premier_: to copy the errors
[02:59] <tarelerulz> I am updating to 7.04 from 6.10 and I put the repository for 7.04 in my source.list and I want to know what the name of the parent process that runng the upgrader is ?
[02:59] <_redondos> premier_: recently, I burned a cd and it was difficult for k3b to regonize de burner
[02:59] <premier_> _redondos: you don't have to reproduce the errors verbatim... just give me some idea
[02:59] <premier_> _redondos: hmmm... sometime, k3b won't burn unless you're in root... it because you do not have permissions for the burner (real annoying I know)
[03:00] <_redondos> premier_: no
[03:00] <_redondos> premier_: yes but sometimes it regonizes it and sometimes not. ..
[03:00] <_redondos> premier_: so, can't be that
[03:00] <_redondos> premier_: (sorry by my english)
[03:03] <jrick> is there any easy way that I can install Pidgon (the new gaim)?  Only the source and fedora rpm's are available, but when I try to download the rpm to convert it with alien, it redirects me back to the front page.  I think it is sniffing and found that I am running kubuntu, not fedora.
[03:04] <biovore> I would think someone would have built a deb package for it..
[03:04] <_redondos> premier_: I will see the bootlog
[03:04] <biovore> have to do some googling for it..
[03:05] <morla> jrick: do you use Feisty?
[03:05] <jrick> yeah
[03:05] <jrick> it's not in the repos.
[03:05] <morla> jrick: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Pidgin
[03:06] <morla> jrick: feisty packages
[03:06] <underdog5004> jrick, why not just use the source?
[03:06] <jrick> i don't like compiling source code
[03:06] <tarelerulz> So what is the name of the updater in Kubuntu? so I can find it is ksystgard
[03:06] <jrick> i've had trouble making it appear on the menu
[03:06] <pacman> anyone familiar with getting mplayer embedded into firefox?
[03:07] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, look for anything containing adept
[03:07] <carlos> hola
[03:07] <noiesmo> jrick, http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pidgin/pidgin-2.0.0-0.1.fc6.i386.rpm
[03:07] <thoreauputic> pacman: install mozilla-mplayer
[03:07] <premier_> jrick: I just found a neat program call Kompile that will do compiling automatially... haven't used it much, you might just give it a shot
[03:08] <thoreauputic> !mozilla-mplayer
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-mplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <premier_> its in the feisty repos
[03:08] <thoreauputic> bah
[03:08] <jrick> sounds kool
[03:08] <thoreauputic> pacman: sorry weong package nams
[03:08] <thoreauputic> *name
[03:08] <premier_> jrick: install it, then right click on the .tar.gz and it should show up as a service menu
[03:09] <thoreauputic> pacman: actually I was right...
[03:09] <jrick> ok, will try it, even though I just got the deb just to test it.
[03:09] <thoreauputic> !info mozilla-mplayer
[03:09] <morla> jrick: did you see the link to the feisty package I sent some lines above?
[03:09] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31+main-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 477 kB, installed size 1636 kB
[03:09] <jrick> yeah
[03:09] <jrick> i got it, but I'm going to try kompile
[03:10] <morla> jrick: better it is, I prefer to compile meself too :)
, I found something with adept in the name ,but it is said to be sleeping?
[03:13] <jrick> does kompile just use the basic ./configure make make install basic commands?
[03:14] <jrick> oh, just looked at the profiles
[03:14] <jrick> lots of sources
[03:14] <tarelerulz> underdog5004, does that mean the updater is not working? when it says sleeping
[03:15] <jrick> guess that means my answer is no.
[03:15] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, I have no idea
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> jrick: by default yes but you can set custom options
[03:17] <jrick> yeah, I'm experimenting with it right now
[03:17] <tarelerulz> I all so see python and uder it I see dpkg which is sleeping .
[03:17] <jrick> looks really powerful
[03:17] <Druntar> ok same problem as before. I'm using a logitech g5 and sporadically it cuts out and does nothing. I have no error messages. it just stops
[03:17] <jrick> I like KDE more and more every day :)
[03:17] <Arwen> I still use GNOME... it looks nicer with beryl running
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> jrick: I wish it would quiry the ./configure script before hand and offer a tick box layout ie enable/disable features
[03:18] <jrick> uhhhhh, no clue what you said.
[03:18] <salvadorbba>  ola boa noite
[03:18] <tarelerulz> I love beryle myself. I think it looks great.
[03:18] <jrick> remember, I'm a deb guy
[03:18] <jrick> not a source guy
[03:18] <salvadorbba> help
[03:19] <BluesKaj> Went back to edgy...it works better on my underpriveleged setup :)
[03:19] <jrick> hopefully kompile will make source code instalation a lot more easy.
[03:19] <Linux_Galore> jrick: if you run the ./configure script when building the source it will just use the defaults in many cases thus some things you may want wont be enabled in the final binary
[03:19] <Druntar> ok I'm using a logitech g5 mouse. it cuts out sporadically. The only way to get it working again is to reboot
[03:19] <Druntar> can anyone help me?
[03:19] <jrick> oh yeah, I understand now
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> jrick: be nice of kompile showed the options before hand
[03:20] <Druntar> this is only my 3rd day in linux
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> s/of/if/
[03:20] <Arwen> and some sources don't have a makefile or a configure script :-\
[03:20] <Arwen> those ones are really nasty
[03:20] <jrick> i got to go
[03:21] <salvadorbba> \ j #gura
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: as in from a cvs/or svn source, yeah easily fixed though
[03:22] <tarelerulz> have any of you upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 with Kubuntu and if so did you use adept or dpkg ?
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> tarelerulz: you dont need to use either
[03:22] <crimsun> err, I'm sure you didn't mean dpkg, because every method uses dpkg.
[03:22] <crimsun> you probably meant apt-get or aptitude
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> tarelerulz: there is a built in update tool that you can use
[03:23] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, or, from the command line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <underdog5004> nice and easy
[03:24] <fiznut> Anyone use Kickoff for a menu?
[03:24] <tarelerulz> I know i don't need to use it ,but I did and I have dpkg and some sort of front end which is telling me how well my upgrade is doing ,bu tit has been on 18% for over 24 minutes
[03:24] <salvadorbba> hi help
[03:24] <epimeth> tarelerulz: I hope you backed up before updating?
[03:24] <salvadorbba> hi
[03:24] <epimeth> salvadorbba: ahoy
[03:24] <tarelerulz> I can't do that . I don't have working cd rom drive .
[03:25] <salvadorbba> i need help
[03:25] <salvadorbba> you can help me
[03:25] <tarelerulz> I have upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 before and it did something like this
[03:26] <tarelerulz> It seem to freeze . all I want is to know if it still work or not for sure. If  new a comand to see the process and tell me if it was running
[03:26] <casev01> hi
[03:27] <epimeth> salvadorbba: don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask the question! :-)
[03:27] <casev01> how can i mount a nfts partition? i was trying in the system menu, but when i try to open the partition the system says i dont have enough permissions
[03:28] <tarelerulz> I use ntfs-3g to mount my windows partitions .
[03:28] <casev01> but that app is in only text mode?
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> update Edgy to Feisty -> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php#upgrade
[03:28] <casev01> there is no GUI?
[03:29] <tarelerulz> Yes there is gui fo the update to 7.04
[03:29] <salvadorbba> I needd install one server game my pc
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> casev01: use kuser to set your permissions
[03:30] <BluesKaj> I got tired of all the crashes on feisty ...my system can't handle the oversights it causes
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> casev01: or look in kcontrol your choice
[03:30] <epimeth> !ntfs > casev01
[03:30] <epimeth> casev01: basically, apt-get install ntfs-config
[03:31] <Arwen> casev01, stop being afraid of the command line... geesh
[03:31] <casev01> haha thx
[03:31] <epimeth> casev01: then you have to edit the item in the k-menu from gksu to kdesu
[03:31] <Arwen> it's true... you can't ever get anywhere in life without a command line
[03:31] <epimeth> cuz if you have vanilla kubuntu you won't have gksu installed
[03:32] <tarelerulz> If a procces is working should it say it is running in ksysgard?
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> tarelerulz: yep
[03:32] <epimeth> casev01: but its always a good idea to start learning the command line, and editing /etc/fstab is simple enough :-)
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> tarelerulz: should run ksysguard though with sudo   ie  sudo ksysguard
[03:32] <salvadorbba> une person brasil
[03:33] <salvadorbba> ?
[03:33] <epimeth> BluesKaj: sorry buddy, 'edgy' is no more :-)
[03:33] <epimeth> BluesKaj: whats the problem
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> epimeth: Im stick getting updates
[03:34] <epimeth> salvadorbba: hablas espanol o solamente portugues?
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> still*
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> right now Im running edgy and I cant see any reason to update to feisty right now
[03:35] <salvadorbba> portugues
[03:35] <BluesKaj> well, ati drivers can't be configged to do DRI , ktorrent crashes , amarok freezes, ...that's just a start
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> I may update when kde 3.5.7 comes out
[03:35] <epimeth> Linux_Galore: yea, my other comp is edgy and I'm getting updates there too, which on one hand is surprising, but on the other hand *really* doesn't surprise me... but I'm sure they'll stop supporting it really soon
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> epimeth: you would be suprised how many people still run edgy
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> epimeth: why update if everything works
[03:37] <epimeth> Linux_Galore: so why are you not running dapper? :-)
[03:38] <tattoodjay> has anyone had luck with using 4 wallpapers on the 3d cube?
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> epimeth: I do run dapper on another machine, even more stable than edgy Im finding
[03:38] <epimeth> Linux_Galore: I agree... on my third machine I updated from dapper to edgy and had lots of problems, but the feisty RC4 worked great
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> epimeth: to be honest Im thinking of doing nothing untill kde 4.0 comes out
[03:38] <casev01> how can i change my permissions? i dont get it
[03:39] <BluesKaj> epimeth, til feisty fixes the problems ati drivers and dri and ktorrent ... to me feisty is an "immature' OS... like a new car that looks great, but has a flat tire every time you want to drive it
[03:39] <casev01> and the gksu to kdesu...?
[03:39] <epimeth> Linux_Galore: I was thinking about it, but then figured "what the hell"  I just like the fact that the default repos have the newest stable versions of everything
[03:39] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: new version of ktorrent was recently released
[03:40] <epimeth> Linux_Galore: less work, ya know?
[03:40] <casev01> :s
[03:40] <BluesKaj> yeah, Linux_Galore, it sucks too
[03:40] <epimeth> casev01: click on K menu -> system
[03:40] <Linux_Galore> epimeth: well I dont have any issues plus I dont like the default build options on the repo's for some packages
[03:40] <epimeth> casev01: right click on NTFS Configuration Utility
[03:40] <epimeth> casev01: click on edit item
[03:40] <epimeth> you'll see it there
[03:41] <casev01> yep
[03:41] <epimeth> Linux_Galore: in hebrew we have a saying, "With taste and smell, there is no reason to argue"
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: I use azureus anyway
[03:41] <helfrez> anyone know if there is a repos with the latest 3.5.5+ kde built for LTS
[03:41] <epimeth> Linux_Galore: I promise I won't try to convince you to upgrade
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> epimeth: I will eventually just i cant see any reason right now
[03:42] <casev01> i didt but and it mounted it, but when i try to open it says i dont have the permissions...
[03:43] <epimeth> helfrez: I swear I just read something about that... don't remember what exactly
[03:43] <epimeth> casev01: did what and mounted what?
[03:43] <helfrez> hehe
[03:43] <BluesKaj> Linux_Galore: yeah but i like my google earth and feisty can't provide that for me , so for practical reasons i just decided to use an OS that i can really use ...no matter if it ain't the shiniest on the block .
[03:43] <epimeth> helfrez: sorry :-(
[03:43] <helfrez> i could just upgrade to edgy, but i would prefer to stay on the LTS base
[03:43] <casev01> opened the ntfs-config tool, mounted the partition
[03:43] <salvadorbba> tem algum brasileiri ai:
[03:44] <david2> I recently downloaded kubuntu.  I burned the iso image, and the cd will boot on all my computers except one.  THe boot order is fine...  But it just goes to the hard disk for some reason.  Anyone have a idea to the cause?
[03:44] <epimeth> google earth doesn't work on feisty???
[03:44] <raylu> david2, do you have a boot menu type of thing?
[03:44] <acidBURN> is there a link on setup ati drivers, via xorg..?
[03:44] <david2> Yeah that aint the problem
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: wait a few weeks it will all get moved over, thats why Im waiting
[03:44] <david2> I aint that stupid
[03:44] <BluesKaj> not with my ati card
[03:44] <acidBURN> running x600
[03:44] <raylu> lol
[03:45] <raylu> david2, how old is the computer?
[03:45] <david2> It's a ibmt43
[03:45] <helfrez> ill just try the edgy kde repe, thats one thing that keeps drawing me back to kde, its very clean on the install
[03:45] <david2> I isn't that old
[03:45] <helfrez> i have a old rhel4 box that runs 3.5.6 np lol
[03:46] <david2> A knoppix cd boots fine
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: the ati issues is more complex, the issue is that Xorg has changed allot recently and ati have been very slack in release drivers tha keep up, I have no issues with nvidia stuff though on my test machine running feisty
[03:46] <raylu> hm. strange. no idea, sorry :P
[03:46] <david2> so I can't see the logic here
[03:46] <david2> As far as I am concerned there should be no issue here... But there is
[03:47] <raylu> as far as i'm concerned i should have a 10000000000rpm hard drive. but I don't :P
[03:47] <epimeth> david2: that *is* odd... it actually happened to me not too long ago... have you tried burning another copy? that ddid it for me
[03:47] <BluesKaj> the ati fglrx driver does a core dump when installing the ati driver on feisty ...i admit I did have it working when it was installed the first day ... but after updates  no more fgl_glxgears and dri and google earth
[03:47] <david2> I burnt 20 cd's
[03:47] <raylu> but he's tried it on other machines, epimeth
[03:47] <david2> all the same results
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: also Intel graphics stuff (i950) work great and compiz works right out the box with out any stuffing around
[03:47] <don> How can I install Knoppix I have disc runs fine demo ?
[03:48] <david2> Knoppix has an install script somewhere
[03:48] <david2> I think the latest version has a program under the kde menu
[03:48] <don> mine is all german I dont see how install
[03:48] <casev01> i cant change the permissions of the partition... :(
[03:48] <epimeth> raylu: so?  maybe it got scratched just now? maybe the cd was written slightly incorrectly and only that one drive can't read it?  its not like making another copy will cost him more than a quarter
[03:48] <david2> They have a english one..
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> Ubuntu cant do anything about ati being slow in updating drivers, intel have no issues, neither do nvidia
[03:49] <raylu> I'm assumimg he's tried it back in his other computers since then
[03:49] <don> i figured I could get english on install
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> but then again Intel is open source
[03:49] <epimeth> casev01: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[03:49] <david2> you can don
[03:49] <david2> You need the english version iso
[03:49] <epimeth> raylu: see point three :-p
[03:50] <raylu> lol
[03:50] <raylu> okay, you got me there
[03:50] <david2> Well then...
[03:50] <casev01> ok
[03:50] <don> I would like to install on one of my boxes
[03:50] <david2>  I guess I'll forget installing kubuntu on the ibm
[03:50] <raylu> don, knoppix?
[03:50] <johnt> Hi Folks I am trying to burn an mpeg1  file to dvd in k3b how do I transfer the encoding??
[03:50] <epimeth> david2: try burning it again, mate!
[03:50] <david2> AH well 2 outta 3 computers aint bad
[03:50] <don> ya I look everyware in it and cant see install
[03:51] <david2> I did 20 times already mate...
[03:51] <raylu> is there a USB version of *ubuntu?
[03:51] <david2> SO what does that tell you
[03:51] <david2> ??
[03:51] <epimeth> david2: also, remove the HD from the boot ordering completely... try and force the bios to load from CD
[03:51] <raylu> don, if you want knoppix help...try the knoppix channel
[03:51] <david2> Did  that
[03:51] <Linux_Galore> johnt: ?? do you want to just copy the file to the disk or re-encode
[03:51] <casev01> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[03:51] <casev01> # Entry for /dev/sda1 :
[03:51] <don> ok
[03:51] <epimeth> david2: then I'm out, mate... good luck :-)
[03:51] <raylu> david2, if you really want it, you could try swapping CD drives...
[03:51] <epimeth> casev01: STOP
[03:51] <casev01> UUID=61aba60a-142a-400b-9645-5bde5afefaa8 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[03:51] <casev01> # Entry for /dev/sda6 :
[03:51] <epimeth> casev01: pastebin, not paste
[03:51] <casev01> UUID=1c5e0c0e-171a-4553-ac99-885d8aa81b99 none swap sw 0 0
[03:51] <casev01> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[03:51] <raylu> !pastebin casev01
[03:51] <casev01> /dev/sda5 /media/intercambio auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,exec,nosuid 0 0
[03:51] <david2> I aint buying a new cdrom if a knoppix cd boots
[03:51] <casev01> /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=es_CL.UTF-8 0 0
[03:52] <casev01> ok
[03:52] <Linux_Galore> casev01: your spamming the room
[03:52] <raylu> le oops.
[03:52] <casev01> thats all
[03:52] <david2> makes no f*ing sense
[03:52] <casev01> =/
[03:52] <raylu> david2, just swap from the other compute
[03:52] <raylu> r
[03:52] <raylu> !pastebin | casev01
[03:52] <ubotu> casev01: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <david2> It's a laptop
[03:52] <casev01> sorry
[03:52] <raylu> oh.
[03:52] <epimeth> david2: try and get an extrenal cdrom?
[03:52] <david2> I dont want to spend money....
[03:52] <johnt> Linux_Galore; I have an mpeg1 from my digi cam and I want to see it on my dvd player on tv
[03:52] <Linux_Galore> casev01: copy the text to the patbin website then post the link
[03:52] <Linux_Galore> pastbin*
[03:52] <raylu> so...is there a USB version of *ubuntu?
[03:53] <david2> I'll just figure it out later
[03:53] <david2> Cause what you are suggesting is stupid and no help
[03:53] <casev01> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19370/
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> johnt: most dvd players will happily play a mpreg1/3/4 file so just burn it as a data DVD
[03:53] <casev01> i didnt know it
[03:53] <epimeth> raylu: now I *know* I saw something about that...
[03:53] <Maxdamantus> Anyone here got SWAT working on K/Ubuntu
[03:54] <casev01> sda5 and sda2 are my partitions to mount
[03:54] <johnt> Linux_Galore; For some reason this player does not and I want to d/l some tv proggrame from p2p and have them as dvd
[03:55] <epimeth> david2: please, thats just rude... I was just suggesting what I would do, and you did all of it already
[03:55] <Linux_Galore> johnt: my $49 dvd player will play just about any file type I throw as it  avi/mpreg1/2/3/4
[03:55] <epimeth> david2: so you *really* can't call it stupid
[03:55] <david2> I may just take a sledge hammer to my laptop and cut my losses...
[03:55] <epimeth> david2: and getting an external drive from a friend would probably solve your problem
[03:55] <Linux_Galore> johnt: you need to transcode the file into something the dvd player can handle
[03:55] <Maxdamantus> casev01, what are you trying to do?
[03:55] <david2> You assume too much epimeth
[03:55] <domenic> does anyone know a good search utility... which comes default with kubuntu?
[03:56] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: I've never gotten SWAT to work... ever...
[03:56] <Maxdamantus> domenic, A GUI one, or command line?
[03:56] <domenic> GUI
[03:56] <epimeth> david2: I assume to much?
[03:56] <epimeth> david2: wtf is that supposed to mean???
[03:56] <raylu> domenic, KMenu > Find?
[03:56] <johnt> Linux_Galore; OK I will try again but it still does not get me a dvd burn in k3b it comes back with the "fail" tune
[03:56] <Maxdamantus> You could use the one in Konqueror.
[03:56] <david2> You assume I know someone who has a external cdrom...  You assume I want to go out of my way to call
[03:56] <Maxdamantus> I like the command line slocate. It's uber fast.
[03:56] <casev01> mounting my ntfs partitions... really y mounted yet, but i dont have the permissions to use it
[03:57] <epimeth> casev01: have you tried a reboot?  cuz the fstab looks okay to me
[03:57] <david2> The answers should be in my own house
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> johnt: try using the Other Options -> Rip Video DVD
[03:57] <epimeth> or just unmounting and then remounting
[03:57] <casev01> ok, i will try
[03:57] <casev01> thc
[03:57] <BluesKaj> Maxdamantus, epimeth...komba2 is a great LAN browser
[03:57] <raylu> wait
[03:57] <casev01> thx
[03:57] <domenic> Maxdamantus: so is there a good GUI one?
[03:57] <raylu> casev01, try sudo ls
[03:57] <casev01> i will be back
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> johnt: in k3b
[03:57] <raylu> I had some issues with permissions on my NTFSs
[03:57] <epimeth> david2: no, I said "if", and  "try to get"
[03:58] <epimeth> david2: see, I know absolutely nobody with an external cdrom drive, and I def. don't assume that anyone has
[03:58] <BluesKaj> raylu, install ntfs-config and ntfs-3g
[03:58] <johnt> Linux_Galore; Rip for files that are on my hd??
[03:58] <david2> I aint gonna argue with you... My point is I should have to do back flips to get this to work...  All my other computers seem to like the cd just fine...  So lets drop this issue.
[03:58] <Linux_Galore> johnt: yep
[03:58] <Maxdamantus> domenic, I don't really see what Konqueror find is lacking with a GUI.
[03:59] <epimeth> david2: as for "in your own house"... you can set up a computer to serve a network install
[03:59] <david2> Yeah
[03:59] <Maxdamantus> But for performance, command line programs are almost always more powerful.
[03:59] <epimeth> david2: but it is beyond me to help you with that
[03:59] <johnt> Linux_Galore; OK I never thought of that thx heaps
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> johnt:  sorry Im thinking the wrong way around
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> johnt: that for ripping a dvd to a file
[04:00] <johnt> Linux_Galore; So maybe not then??
[04:00] <david2> Okay I know my options now it is up to me to decide how much work I need to do.
[04:00] <epimeth> BluesKaj: whats that about komba2?
[04:00] <david2> I'll just download slackware
[04:01] <david2> I bet you that cd will boot
[04:01] <epimeth> david2: gentoo :-)
[04:01] <johnt> Linux_Galore; I select the file drag and drop then when I hit burn I get errors
[04:01] <epimeth> david2: people have been trying to convince me to move to gentoo for months!
[04:01] <david2> I have gentoo on another computer
[04:01] <Dhraakellian> how easy/difficult is it to get the aoTuV oggenc on kubuntu?
[04:01] <epimeth> david2: you like it?
[04:01] <david2> It's work I do not wish to do right now
[04:01] <david2> It's great
[04:01] <thomas_> Hey guys I have a noob question for you, I just got automatix and I'm about to install the NTFS support. Now when it tells me that it's going to unmount then remount my NTFS partitions, will that delete any of the data that I have on those partitions?
[04:01] <david2> just takes time to compile all that sh*t
[04:01] <epimeth> david2: tell that to my server who doesn't want to accept my public key...
[04:02] <epimeth> thomas_: probably not
[04:02] <david2> You need to be in a mood to install gentoo
[04:02] <david2> and you need to back it up right away...
[04:02] <Linux_Galore> johnt: ok File -> New Project -> New Video DVD (or CD)
[04:02] <Dhraakellian> hehheh
[04:02] <thomas_> Alright thank you
[04:02] <david2> If your patience is gone for the day...
[04:02] <epimeth> thomas_: but you might be the one in a bajillion that it happens to
[04:02] <johnt> Linux_Galore; yep
[04:02] <david2> You make it worse...
[04:02] <david2> I just hate RPMS
[04:03] <epimeth> david2: its a difficult intsall?
[04:03] <tarelerulz> Have any of you ugraded to 7.04 and if so did you get any  erorr or weird attive like the gui for the upgrede seem  to freze
[04:03] <david2> What gentoo?
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> johnt: just drag and drop the file
[04:03] <Dhraakellian> I'm planning on trying out kubuntu for a while, but I'm still going to be tarring my Gentoo root directory over to my mom's HD so that I don't have to do a from-scratch reinstall if I decide to go back
[04:03] <epimeth> david2: yea... or were you talking about something else?
[04:03] <comodo> can someone help me with this error message? hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[04:03] <Dhraakellian> epimeth: not so much difficullt as lengthy
[04:03] <Lord_Maynoth_42> does anyone know what this means:"cdrecord will be run without root privileges"
[04:03] <johnt> Linux_Galore; TV dvd player saYS NO SUPPORTING FILES FOUND WHEN i TRY TO PLAY THAT MPEG1
[04:03] <david2> Gentoo install is a lot of typing
[04:03] <Lord_Maynoth_42> from KDE
[04:03] <Lord_Maynoth_42> K3B
[04:03] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I mean
[04:04] <Dhraakellian> epimeth: Gentoo's install documentation is excellent, but it still takes a while to do it
[04:04] <Lord_Maynoth_42> how do I give cdrecord root priviledges?
[04:04] <raylu> Lord_Maynoth_42, I think you need to run K3B as root
[04:04] <david2> I just dont have the patience right now to deal with it...
[04:04] <Linux_Galore> johnt: did you create a Video CD/DVD ??
[04:04] <johnt> Linux_Galore; sorry caps lock
[04:04] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ahh
[04:04] <raylu> kdesu k3b, or something similar
[04:04] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ok
[04:04] <Lord_Maynoth_42> thanks
[04:04] <raylu> I'm not sure though. I haven't used k3b in a long time
[04:04] <epimeth> I'll probably install gentoo on one of these systems eventually... too many people have been telling me to try it out
[04:04] <david2> AH well
[04:04] <Dhraakellian> heh...
[04:04] <raylu> My experience with gentoo has been rather painful
[04:05] <david2> Just make sure you have plenty of rest before ya do....
[04:05] <Dhraakellian> still need to figure out the exact tar syntax to get the backup onto my mom's box without the tar file ever being on mine
[04:05] <david2> and back it up
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> johnt: Video CD/DVD has some extra formatting that some players need before they can see the file
[04:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :C  it complains when I run it as root
[04:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :c
[04:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> says not to
[04:05] <johnt> Linux_Galore; No That is the problem. I know what to do I just cannot do it because k3b needs to transfer the encoding and cannot
[04:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :/
[04:05] <david2> Gentoo is anal as hell
[04:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> is there a way to give just cdrecord root privledges
[04:06] <Dhraakellian> Lord_Maynoth_42: isn't there a k3bsetup program that makes sure k3b has the proper permissions to burn things as user?
[04:06] <david2> I need another beer...
[04:06] <johnt> Linux_Galore; How do I do the xtra formatting please
[04:06] <Lord_Maynoth_42> i dunno
[04:06] <Dhraakellian> Lord_Maynoth_42: yeah, try sudo k3bsetup
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> johnt: aaah, I suspect its because ffmpeg in Ubuntu is restricted, you may have to compile it with everything enabled
[04:06] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :C
[04:06] <Lord_Maynoth_42> command not found
[04:06] <Dhraakellian> huh
[04:07] <raylu> Lord_Maynoth_42, kdesu or k3b?
[04:07] <Lord_Maynoth_42> k3b
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> johnt: k3b uses ffmeg to transcode the file but Ubuntu's version has lots of stuff disabled in the package
[04:08] <raylu> hm...I'm not sure what the command for k3b is. You can find it in Adept if you show details and list the files installed by the k3b package
[04:08] <Linux_Galore> raylu: alt F2  type k3b
[04:09] <johnt> Linux_Galore; I just did locate ffmpeg and it looks like the transcode is there so I guess I need to figure out how to enable it then
[04:09] <raylu> er...I'm not in linux right now :P
[04:09] <epimeth> hrm... my katapult seems to be a bit buggy... it isn't finding KAudioCreator
[04:09] <epimeth> raylu: shame!
[04:09] <Linux_Galore> johnt: ffmpeg is there, what the issue is the ubuntu dev's when they create the package disable all the good bits
[04:10] <tarelerulz> I rann the update for kuntu and I upgrading it to 7.04 via dpkg and  front end for upgade seem to be froze on 18%
[04:10] <epimeth> and by "good bits" we mean "stuff that isn't covered by the GPL" :-)
[04:10] <epimeth> tarelerulz: again I ask, did you back your things up?
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> johnt: due to copyright issues, if you google  ffmpeg  ubuntu compile you will see a few howto's
[04:11] <tarelerulz> I did not back them up .  I just ran the updater and that is all I have done.
[04:12] <johnt> Linux_Galore; Ok then that might be why I did not find the info on the ubuntu sites
[04:12] <tarelerulz> There is a window that say distribution upgrede and it is on fecting and installiing upgredes and it is on 18% for the last hour
[04:12] <Linux_Galore> johnt: actually the links google spits out are ubuntu help pages lol
[04:12] <epimeth> is it "fetching" or is it "isntalling", do you know?
[04:12] <epimeth> tarelerulz: ^
[04:13] <tarelerulz> it says it is on configuing libssl.0.9.9.
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> johnt: I came accross this same issue recently because i needed to transcode a video file for my iPOD and found ffmpeg is crippled
[04:13] <tarelerulz> It has been saying that more the 24 minutes .
[04:14] <johnt> Linux_Galore; Lol :-)   Did you fix??
[04:14] <Linux_Galore> johnt: my old Mandriva 2006 machine didnt have this issue though thanks to the plf packages
[04:14] <epimeth> tarelerulz: hrm... I really don't know much about the updater as I installed from scratch... so I really can't help you at this point
[04:14] <epimeth> tarelerulz: I would wait until someone came on that *can* help you
[04:14] <Linux_Galore> johnt: yeah i compiled ffmpeg based on a howto found via google
[04:15] <david2> does kubuntu have  32 bit combatibility libraries for applications compiled as 32 bit?
[04:15] <tarelerulz> epimeth ,  I thought as much ,but think for trying to help me.
[04:15] <Maxdamantus> Ffs.
[04:15] <Maxdamantus> Anyone here had a samba server working correctly?
[04:15] <epimeth> tarelerulz: you don't want to stop it and reboot and find that you can't get back into your linux since its half upgraded
[04:15] <david2> I have
[04:15] <Maxdamantus> Mine always has some password on it which I don;'t know.
[04:15] <Maxdamantus> Brb.
[04:15] <johnt> Linux_Galore: OK then thank you for your help I will go do my home work now ha ha..
[04:15] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: yup
[04:15] <david2> YOu need to make a user and set a passwd
[04:15] <casev01> thx i did it
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> johnt: Im finding if you want to transcode or do video editing Ubuntu has some nasty limitations
[04:16] <tarelerulz> Haha sure I would love to do that and since I don't have working cd rom drive that would be more run.
[04:16] <epimeth> casev01: did your permissions work out?
[04:16] <killermach_> I'm looking for the game Tali.. I have it on edgy machine, but can't find it to install in fiesty
[04:16] <ben325e> Hi - I just installed Kubuntu for my 1st time, and want to know if there is anything anyone would reccomend doing right off... any programs that ubuntu/kubuntu doesn't come with...etc... I've heard of several programs that "set everything up"for you, but I don't really know about these programs.
[04:17] <johnt> Linux_Galore: Yuk   I might have to talk to some of my geek mates then??
[04:17] <Maxdamantus> david2, where?
[04:17] <epimeth> ben325e: definitely firefox for web... and I like dophin for my filesystem viewer...
[04:17] <david2> Hold on
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> johnt: yeah, dont laugh OSX and Windows has similar issues unless you pay for some $$$ software
[04:17] <ben325e> dolphin... never heard of it... will definitely check it out. thx.
[04:18] <david2> I had a website bookmarked telling all about it.... But it aint loading right now
[04:18] <tarelerulz> I would like to say Ubuntu 7.04 is the best Linux I have used and the easyest to get running the way you want too.
[04:18] <cobbercash> hey
[04:18] <casev01> yep
[04:18] <casev01> thx
[04:18] <cobbercash> can someone help me.
[04:19] <epimeth> ben325e: besides that I dunno what to tell you... I guess KMoney for your Quicken replacement... take a look at Add/Remove Programs for Ideas
[04:19] <david2> I use gnucash
[04:19] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: whats the problem with samba?
[04:19] <cobbercash> can someone please help? i installed linux on my sister's laptop and now the images look really squished
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> johnt: Im finding Mandriva with the plf repositories are an easier option if you want to do things like transcoding video formats that have format restrictions
[04:20] <Maxdamantus> Not a clue what the password is, about to try something now though.
[04:20] <ben325e> will do... do you know anything about a program that sets a lot of basics up for ya?
[04:20] <epimeth> david2: I just have an allergy to anything that starts with a "g" :-)
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> johnt: you can do the same in Ubuntu but their isnt anything like the plf stuff in Ubuntu
[04:20] <cobbercash> please can someone help!!!
[04:20] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: add "security = share" to your smb.conf under "general"
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> johnt: so you have to compile a few things
[04:21] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: unless you want proper security on the shares, of course
[04:21] <david2> Hmm the laptop has a ati card on it anyhow
[04:21] <Maxdamantus> General, or global?
[04:21] <johnt> Linux_Galore: Yuk   Mandriva?  is that a mandrake fork?
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> johnt: Mandriva is the new name for Mandrake
[04:21] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: in which case you have to run smbpasswd and add a user
[04:22] <johnt> Linux_Galore: sorry no yuk
[04:22] <epimeth> johnt: mandrake is no longer with us :-)
[04:22] <cobbercash> :( hello?
[04:22] <epimeth> god that was a heavy distro... I think my windows ran faster than that one....
[04:22] <epimeth> cobbercash: we're here, just be patient :-)
[04:22] <Linux_Galore> johnt: well you have to compile the ffmpeg stuff then, not hard to be honest
[04:22] <david2> AH well tommarrow is another day....
[04:22] <Dhraakellian> does the Ogg Vorbis encoder shipped with Kubuntu include the aoTuV improvements?
[04:22] <cobbercash> :)
[04:22] <david2> Later peoples
[04:23] <epimeth> david2: adios
[04:23] <crimsun> Dhraakellian: no.  It's the xiph.org reference implementation.
[04:23] <Maxdamantus> Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[04:23] <Maxdamantus> Failed to change password for maxdamantus
[04:23] <Maxdamantus> :S
[04:23] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: general, sorry
[04:23] <Dhraakellian> crimsun: thanks
[04:23] <Maxdamantus> It must have some default password set that I don't know about.
[04:23] <crimsun> Dhraakellian: except for the earlier bits incorporated from aoTuV, of course.
[04:23] <Dhraakellian> yeah
[04:23] <Dhraakellian> reading on HA about it
[04:23] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: you should seperate your linux users and samba users unless you really want them to be the same
[04:24] <Dhraakellian> I emerged with USE=aotuv on gentoo and am wondering how difficult it'd be to get it on kubuntu
[04:24] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: do "smbpassword sambashare" or something
[04:24] <johnt> Linux_Galore: Well I do not have a lot to lose by the sound of things. Not sure how this will affect migrating windows users or the Dell relelease though..:-((
[04:24] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: getting your regular users and samba users to be the same takes a bit more work
[04:25] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: also, if you don't want to be bothered with a password just don't use user security, set it to share
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> johnt: well there are $$$ apps for Linux that do what you want and even in OSX and Windows you ave to pay for transcoding apps anyway
[04:25] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: that way anyone on the network can get to them without a problem
[04:26] <danny500> Hey is there a game for Ubuntu thats like Bejeweld?
[04:26] <johnt> Linux_Galore: Fair enough, I am getting too used to the "free" thing. ;-)
[04:26] <tarelerulz> is there a command line  that dose the same thing as Ksysguard?
[04:26] <Dhraakellian> tarelerulz: top
[04:26] <Maxdamantus> Is smbpasswd meant to write to /etc/samba/smbpasswd?
[04:27] <Maxdamantus> Because as far as I can tell, running smbpasswd as root doesn't seem to do anything.
[04:27] <Linux_Galore> johnt: very easy to forget that even though one can do some things on windows you had to pay for it
[04:27] <johnt> Danny500: Gweled
[04:28] <johnt> Linux_Galore: Yes! That is true..
[04:28] <noiesmo> Maxdamantus, sudo smbpasswd useraname you will then be asked to create a new password for that user
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> johnt: the problem Ubuntu has is they cant add comercial format support by default because obviously they will get sued
[04:29] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: and is there any reason at all you want to secure your shares???
[04:29] <Maxdamantus> Failed to find entry for user max.
[04:29] <Maxdamantus> Failed to modify password entry for user max
[04:29] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: sudo smbpasswd max
[04:29] <johnt> Linux_Galore: I understand that. It is a bit frustrating for us old wanna be geeks though :-))
[04:29] <Maxdamantus> Because I still can't seem to get it working unsecured.
[04:29] <Maxdamantus> epimeth, that's what I just did.
[04:30] <epimeth> arg... lemme install samba server... hold up
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> johnt: doesnt mean you cant then go and install alternate packages or compile the options in yourself though
[04:30] <Maxdamantus> :S
[04:30] <Maxdamantus> -a is meant to add user.
[04:30] <Maxdamantus> But it doesn't seem to do anything either.
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> johnt: yeah, welcome to the new world order were your told how to use your computer
[04:30] <Maxdamantus> Just tells me:
[04:30] <Maxdamantus> Failed to modify password entry for user max
[04:31] <johnt> Linux_Galore: True, I will get there though!!
[04:32] <cobbercash> if anyone has a moment, my question isn't huge?
[04:32] <Linux_Galore> johnt: Ubuntu community really needs something like the PLF stuff Mandriva has, it makes life so much easier
[04:32] <cWolfe> holy crap - hydrogen is the best drum software ive ever encountered
[04:32] <cWolfe> and its free!
[04:32] <johnt> Danny500: in kubuntu it may have a name like kweled
[04:32] <Linux_Galore> cWolfe: yeah, amazing piece of work
[04:33] <johnt> Linux_Galore: Agreed
[04:33] <Maxdamantus> Nothing is free.
[04:33] <poningru> Linux_Galore: it does have it
[04:33] <poningru> Linux_Galore: what are you looking for?
[04:33] <Linux_Galore> poningru: yeah but there is nothing in there
[04:33] <poningru> Linux_Galore: thats what multiverse is for
[04:33] <poningru> Linux_Galore: are you talking about the commercial stuff? like opera and realplayer?
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> poningru: no transcoding libs
[04:34] <poningru> transcoding libs?
[04:34] <poningru> like music codecs?
[04:34] <poningru> are you sure you are running feisty?
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> poningru: ffmpeg for example that doesnt have everything turned off
[04:34] <poningru> ...
[04:34] <poningru> Linux_Galore: are you sure you are running feisty?
[04:35] <poningru> Linux_Galore: just double click on the music you want to play and watch it do the magic
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> poningru: its not an issue for me I just compiled it weeks ago, johnt is having the issues
[04:35] <poningru> johnt: what trouble are you having?
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> poningru: playing music isnt transcoding
[04:35] <epimeth> poningru: mine didn't... had to isntall the codecs myself
[04:35] <poningru> epimeth: uh...
[04:36] <johnt> pongiru: I think the original q was from me I want to transcode a MPEG1 to dvd format and k3b will not do it
[04:36] <epimeth> poningru: it was very odd... the beta worked fine, the release didn't...
[04:36] <poningru> epimeth: thats weird
[04:36] <epimeth> poningru: yup
[04:37] <poningru> johnt: just use mencoder
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> poningru: ffmpeg shows up for me on the default package as having allot of the options not set to --enable in the compile
[04:37] <johnt> pongiru: Mencoder??
[04:37] <poningru> k3b does not automatically convert stuff
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> poningru: actually it does it uses ffmpeg as the back end
[04:38] <poningru> I dont think there is a gui in linux to transcode different stuff
[04:38] <poningru> it does?
[04:38] <poningru> since when?
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> poningru: about 8 months ago
[04:38] <Maxdamantus> Ahah!
[04:38] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: still here
[04:38] <poningru> ok researching before I say something more stupid
[04:38] <Maxdamantus> Yes.
[04:39] <Maxdamantus> I've almost got it.
[04:39] <johnt> poningru: so install mencoder to transfer encode then burn with k3b??
[04:39] <Maxdamantus> Doesn't ask for any login when I check the shared items now.
[04:39] <epimeth> Maxdamantus: set security to share?
[04:39] <poningru> johnt: yes
[04:40] <johnt> poningru: OK I will try that and see what the outcome is. You have tried and is OK??
[04:40] <poningru> johnt: but you should probably install the codecs ffmpeg-plugin-ugly etc. first
[04:40] <poningru> johnt: yes ofcourse
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> poningru: I think the issues is that his DVD player wont read a raw data dvd with an mpeg1 file on it, he needs a Video CD/DVD
[04:41] <poningru> Linux_Galore: right mpeg2 is what it needs
[04:41] <poningru> iirc
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> johnt: yeah just use mencoder to transcode from mpeg1 to mpreg2
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> mpeg2*
[04:42] <johnt> poningru: I did a bunch of codecs not sure about ugly but will check
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> johnt: or just get a decent dvd player heh
[04:42] <johnt> Linux_Galore: k3b understands mpeg2??
[04:43] <poningru> johnt: there are guides out there for mencoder
[04:43] <poningru> on howto convert
[04:43] <ben325e> hey, gotta new kubuntu install (new user) and am looking for mp3 support as well as dvd copying capability
[04:43] <ben325e> any suggestions?
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> johnt: according to what Im reading it should happily deal with them all thanks to ffmpeg doing on the fly transcoding
[04:43] <biovore> !restricted_formats
[04:44] <biovore> !restricted_ormats
[04:44] <biovore> !mp3
[04:44] <ben325e> !restricted_format
[04:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:44] <johnt> I like the get a decent video player option   but will persist with this thanks for you  help peoples. I have to work now bye..
[04:45] <tarelerulz> So any one else try to upgrade from 6.10 kubuntu to 7.04 ubuntu with adept or dpkg?
[04:48] <tarelerulz> the resason I ask is I did that and the disribution upgrade window seem to be foze  and I wanted to know if that was a normal bug?
[04:48] <Maxdamantus> That's why you have a seperate /home partition. :P
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> Maxdamantus: do you know of a way to resize an ext3 partition and then move /home to a new partition
[04:51] <Maxdamantus> Depends what ext3 you're resizing.
[04:51] <bonbonthejon> Maxdamantus: /
[04:51] <Maxdamantus> You'll need to resize it from somewhere else.
[04:51] <xevious> ok
[04:51] <xevious> crazy guy on the loose
[04:52] <xevious> want to upgrade debian etch to feisty
[04:52] <xevious> what are my apt sources?
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic
[04:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:52] <Maxdamantus> You could use a LiveCD, and use (G/QT)Parted to resize it.
[04:52] <Maxdamantus> But can't resize partitions while they're mounted.
[04:53] <bonbonthejon> Maxdamantus: aye
[04:53] <xevious> bonbonthejon: thankee
[04:54] <xevious> wait
[04:54] <xevious> i want kubuntu
[04:54] <Maxdamantus> After that, you create a new partition.
[04:54] <Maxdamantus> Then mount it somewhere.
[04:54] <bonbonthejon> xevious: they use the same repos
[04:54] <hephaestus_> with glxinfo | grep rendering i got this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:54] <Maxdamantus> And (as root) cp -ax /home/* /path/to/newpartition/
[04:55] <hephaestus_> i cant understand, glx is installed
[04:55] <Maxdamantus> Then mount the new partition as /home
[04:55] <xevious> bonbonthejon: just replace ...ubuntu.com/ubuntu with ...ubuntu.com/kubuntu?
[04:56] <bonbonthejon> xevious: I dont understand? if you generated a sources.list with source-o-matic, it will work for ubuntu and kubuntu
[04:57] <xevious> bonbonthejon: right, but they're pointing towards the ubuntu repositories
[04:58] <bonbonthejon> xevious: I dont see the problem, but I do see a problem trying to go from debian etch to feisty
[04:58] <freeflyer> can someone tell me where to get my nvidia drivers for kubuntu
[04:58] <xevious> bonbonthejon: don't i want to make this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted... into this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/kubuntu feisty main restricted? notice the kubuntu at the end of the URL
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> xevious: no, I dont think so
[04:59] <xevious> bonbonthejon: you use kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:00] <bonbonthejon> xevious: kubuntu, heres my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19378/
[05:00] <xevious> bonbonthejon: i need to see a stock sources.list, not a source-o-matic one
[05:01] <bonbonthejon> xevious: its the same
[05:01] <xevious> i'm pretty sure i need to replace ubuntu with kubuntu, otherwise i'll end up with ubuntu (gnome desktop), not a kubuntu installation after doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> xevious: i dont think going from debian etch will work, you might need to reinstall
[05:02] <xevious> i know the package archives are the same, but the specific repository decides which packages to install and which distro you end up with
[05:02] <xevious> i think.
[05:02] <xevious> bonbonthejon: i'll try and let you know
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> xevious: make sure you back up everything, I suspect hard times ahead
[05:03] <xevious> all my files are on my fileserver
[05:03] <xevious> nothing unsafe on here
[05:04] <freeflyer> can somone tell me an easy way to install nvidia driver on kubuntu
[05:04] <bonbonthejon> !nvidia
[05:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:05] <xevious> freeflyer: did you just install kubuntu?
[05:05] <freeflyer> yea i did
[05:06] <xevious> freeflyer: have you modified your sources.list file yet?
[05:06] <freeflyer> no i havent
[05:06] <xevious> freeflyer: can you paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  ?
[05:07] <Dragnslcr> freeflyer- in Adept, go to Adept -> Manage Repositories
[05:07] <xevious> freeflyer: and then give me the link to look at it?
[05:07] <Dragnslcr> Make sure the option for proprietary drivers is checked
[05:08] <Dragnslcr> That should add the restricted repository
[05:08] <freeflyer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19379/
[05:08] <xevious> thanks!
[05:09] <xevious> bonbonthejon: by golly you're right
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> xevious: ??
[05:09] <xevious> bonbonthejon: the sources.list entries
[05:09] <xevious> it says ubuntu
[05:10] <xevious> huh
[05:10] <xevious> i wonder how i dist-upgrade to kubuntu with the ubuntu sources.list entries
[05:11] <freeflyer> yea  dragnslcr its checked
[05:11] <Maxdamantus> xevious, incase you havn't noticed, all Kubuntu is is Ubuntu, but with KDE instead of GNOME.
[05:11] <Dragnslcr> freeflyer- the NVidia drivers should show up in the package list then
[05:12] <Maxdamantus> Even if it does turn out installing GNOME, you should still have KDE.
[05:12] <Maxdamantus> If not, you can reinstall it easily.
[05:13] <Alonea> is there something like daemon tools for linux? or is there a daemon tools version for linux already?
[05:13] <Maxdamantus> Alonea, to do what?
[05:14] <Maxdamantus> When mounting a CD in Linux, you don't read directly from the device.
[05:14] <Alonea> Maxdamantus: virtual drive...thats what daemon tools is generally for
[05:14] <Maxdamantus> All it is is a folder with files.
[05:14] <freeflyer> what will the driver be called i mean is there one driver for all nvidia cards or what?
[05:15] <Alonea> Maxdamantus: I have an iso I want to mount to a virtual drive because when i burn it, it keeps on failing.
[05:15] <Dragnslcr> freeflyer- I think it depends on your card
[05:15] <Maxdamantus> mount -t iso9660 file.iso /some/directory/to/mount/to
[05:15] <Dragnslcr> I have a 7900, and I have nvidia-glx installed
[05:16] <Alonea> Maxdamantus: ok, thanks. will try that and see if this os will install now on vmware.
[05:16] <Dragnslcr> Actually, I think that's the only nVidia driver
[05:16] <Maxdamantus> Just mount the iso in vmware.
[05:16] <freeflyer> i have 6200
[05:16] <freeflyer> what driver should i get for it
[05:16] <Maxdamantus> I'll PM you the block to mount an iso in vmware if you want.
[05:16] <Dragnslcr> freeflyer- probably nvidia-glx
[05:17] <freeflyer> is there a command to run in the termainal to get it
[05:17] <Alonea> Maxdamantus: yeah, I was just fixing to ask how. i have only had it for a day
[05:17] <Dragnslcr> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:17] <Dragnslcr> Though if you have KDE running, you might as well just use Adept
[05:18] <freeflyer> i keep getting this error There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:18] <Dragnslcr> freeflyer- the preview should tell you which packages conflict
[05:19] <Dragnslcr> It looks like the only conflicts are with other unneeded nvidia packages
[05:19] <jza873> hay evey pne i was wondering if comeone can help me i have one of those psx to usb adapters and i tried to use it it works but when i press a button it look liek it is turbo the program in linux makes it look liek if i press up im constantly hitting it is ther any other collaboration devices out there
[05:19] <freeflyer> how to check for direct rendering
[05:19] <noiesmo> freeflyer, glxinfo |grep direct
[05:20] <jza873> that for me
[05:20] <jza873> ohh no sorry
[05:20] <K`zan> Where does one find the md5sums for the downloaded 7.04 CD?  TIA!
[05:21] <BluesKaj> ati - fgl_glxgears spinning six sided cube with gears on each face
[05:22] <Dragnslcr> K`zan- CD or DVD?
[05:23] <K`zan> Dragnslcr: Never mind, I found some, thanks!
[05:23] <Dragnslcr> The CD ones are pretty easy to find. It took me half a day to find the ones for the DVD
[05:23] <virii2dcode> hello people
[05:24] <virii2dcode> what DVD?
[05:24] <Dragnslcr> The md5sums for the Feisty DVD
[05:24] <virii2dcode> O'h your updating and upgrading..
[05:25] <virii2dcode> or just running the CD-DVD promo?
[05:25] <Dragnslcr> Huh?
[05:25] <virii2dcode> Are you runnng the fiesty now?
[05:26] <virii2dcode> whats your OS
[05:26] <virii2dcode> ?
[05:27] <Dragnslcr> Yes, I am
[05:27] <virii2dcode> Are you going to run Beryl also?
[05:28] <Dragnslcr> I tried it for a little while, but it seemed a bit flaky
[05:28] <Dragnslcr> I'll probably give it another shot when 0.3 comes out
[05:28] <virii2dcode> The 3d effect was ok but i herd it crashes alot..
[05:29] <virii2dcode> it piles to much cache.
[05:29] <Dragnslcr> It's pretty good for being at version 0.2, but they still have a fair amount of work before it's ready for normal users
[05:29] <virii2dcode> yes i think its still in its Beta format.
[05:30] <virii2dcode> which means its not fully stable yet.
[05:31] <virii2dcode> what do you like to use your Comp for-use ~or ~play?
[05:32] <Maxdamantus> Beryl. :(
[05:32] <Maxdamantus> Wish I had a better graphics card.
[05:32] <virii2dcode> you dont like..
[05:32] <Maxdamantus> I do like, just really laggy on my card.
[05:33] <virii2dcode> what system are you running?
[05:33] <biovore> beryl really need a nvidia card. (ATI works for some cards)
[05:33] <Maxdamantus> Kubuntu.. It's not the system.
[05:33] <virii2dcode> cant you upgrade the graphics card threw the driver?
[05:33] <Maxdamantus> It's the fact that all my graphics card is is an output to the monitor that steals 24mb of the main RAM.
[05:33] <Maxdamantus> Hard to get a good PCI video card.
[05:33] <virii2dcode> O'h lol..
[05:34] <Maxdamantus> No PCI-E or AGP.
[05:34] <virii2dcode> thats true..
[05:34] <virii2dcode> why not?
[05:34] <Maxdamantus> Because my motherboard is crap.
[05:34] <virii2dcode> but what are you playing with?
[05:34] <Maxdamantus> What do you mean?
[05:35] <virii2dcode> me-acer labtop/linux.
[05:35] <Maxdamantus> HP desktop/linux
[05:35] <virii2dcode> O'h thaat helps..
[05:35] <virii2dcode> Hp is pretty good i guess..
[05:35] <Maxdamantus> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07813&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=325139&lang=en
[05:35] <virii2dcode> my brother runns it to.
[05:36] <Maxdamantus> That's the motherboard my system came with. :P
[05:36] <Maxdamantus> Bet you can't find a manufacturers site.
[05:36] <voidmage> biovore: yeah, i regret buying an ATI card a long time ago when i built this box
[05:36] <voidmage> newegg has a 7600 for $90 though
[05:37] <virii2dcode> I know they dont >HP company< like to invest good money in there products,cause they make more money on there other products..
[05:37] <Maxdamantus> I'm actually thinking of getting a new motherboard.
[05:37] <virii2dcode> I have a Celleron M..
[05:37] <Maxdamantus> There's a shop with fairly good prices in town that I think might install for a small fee.
[05:38] <Maxdamantus> Never installed a new motherboard though, and don't feel to keep.
[05:38] <virii2dcode> it could be worth it..
[05:38] <Maxdamantus> Btw, look at my mb diagram. :S
[05:38] <Maxdamantus> The RAM is directly underneath the HDDs.
[05:39] <Maxdamantus> Which you need to take off the fan duct and unplug HDDs to get.
[05:39] <nirmal> hi all
[05:39] <Maxdamantus> And then it has about 10cm vertically of nothing at the bottom.
[05:39] <virii2dcode> i know ..---> steal the source code from nevidia..re-engineer the driver that would be compatible..that might work.
[05:40] <voidmage> a 7600 for $90, get?
[05:40] <virii2dcode> GEt..
[05:41] <virii2dcode> graphics are good ..if you like games-photo's and the all around browsing..but i dont need that stuff for what i like to do..
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> Yea, I don't really need very good graphics.
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> The only thing I'd want a better graphics card for is Beryl.
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> Because it looks cool.
[05:42] <virii2dcode> O'h you like Beryl that much..i heard it was a lil slow..
[05:42] <[Flux] > my card sucks and i run beryl no problem
[05:42] <houdinize> i wanna a simplified Beryl.
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> [Flux] , how bad?
[05:42] <[Flux] > i have an ATI Radeon 200 Express
[05:42] <[Flux] > lol
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> That's insane compared to mine,
[05:43] <[Flux] > oh =/
[05:43] <[Flux] > i cant use the latest beryl in the repo though
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Mines integrated, steals 24mb onboard RAM.
[05:43] <[Flux] > i have to use the 0.2.0 one
[05:43] <[Flux] > ouch...
[05:43] <[Flux] > i just switched over to kubuntu from ubuntu, and im loving kde again
[05:44] <Maxdamantus> KDE > GNOME
[05:44] <houdinize> The 3 functions i need in Beryl: (1)reverse-color (2)windows-trasparency (3) windows display
[05:44] <[Flux] > i went from fluxbox to gnome to kde
[05:44] <[Flux] > lol
[05:44] <AmyRose> Maxdamantus: Definitely :D
[05:44] <Maxdamantus> I went from KDE to KDE.
[05:44] <[Flux] > lol
[05:44] <Maxdamantus> I have GNOME though too.
[05:44] <[Flux] > i loved fluxbox though
[05:44] <AmyRose> kvirc?!
[05:45] <[Flux] > i use x-chat here, bitchx on my other irc session
[05:45] <Maxdamantus> XChat ftw.
[05:45] <[Flux] > i love bitchx with cypress script
[05:45] <AmyRose> traitors :P
[05:45] <virii2dcode> I am running the -------> Intel Graphics Media Exelorator 900
[05:45] <[Flux] > lol
[05:45] <virii2dcode> how does that cmpare?
[05:45] <[Flux] > im gonna go play a game i think
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> irssi when im feeling minimalist
[05:46] <Maxdamantus> Konversation doesn't seem like a very good multi network interface.
[05:46] <virii2dcode> I agree..
[05:46] <kalorin`> the only thing I wish it did that it doesn't for multinetwork is let you hide/close the server tabs
[05:46] <kalorin`> otherwise it's really just like xchat which is about as good as I've found
[05:46] <Maxdamantus> 5 networks, 16 chans atm.
[05:47] <Maxdamantus> Which is about the minimal I ever have.
[05:47] <virii2dcode> its a downgrade from the Underner ; IRC..
[05:47] <kalorin`> yeah well if youd idn't have ot have a tba open for each server, that'd be 16 tabs rather than 21
[05:47] <virii2dcode> sorry i ment undernet<---
[05:47] <AmyRose> It works great if you have the tab list on the left
[05:48] <Maxdamantus> AmyRose, you mean tree view?
[05:48] <AmyRose> Maxdamantus: Yeah, something like that
[05:48] <Maxdamantus> Yea, more organised.
[05:53] <kalorin`> I prefer them on top to be honest
[05:53] <kalorin`> but I only follow about 6 channels
[05:53] <kalorin`> it's a lot of realestate to put them on the side unless you're talking a ton of channels, then I coudl see it making some sense
[05:57] <Druntar> Hello folks
[05:57] <Druntar> Ok here's the issue
[05:58] <Druntar> I have a logitech g5 laser mouse
[05:58] <Druntar> when I boot into kubuntu 7.04 the mouse will work for a short while then just stop
[05:58] <Druntar> I've been all over the net but all I can find are guides to make the extra buttons work
[05:59] <Maxdamantus> Druntar, tried vim?
[05:59] <Maxdamantus> I think that's what it's called.
[05:59] <Druntar> I only got kubuntu installed this morning so I'm totally a newb
[05:59] <Maxdamantus> Then xmodmap them.
[05:59] <Druntar> I don't care if the buttons work
[05:59] <Druntar> I just want the mouse to stop locking up
[05:59] <K-Ryan> Another turned to Kubuntu *score*
[05:59] <K-Ryan> Alright, that'll make me try to help.
[05:59] <Druntar> lol
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Are you using a different mouse right now?
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Or cleverly using your keyboard?
[06:00] <Druntar> no I'm in my vista partition since I'm not done moving stuff over yet
[06:00] <cWolfe> Druntar, tell us the output of this "  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver  "  whothout the quotes
[06:00] <Druntar> I know how to cleverly use my keyboard though
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Ah alright, so the mouse does work.
[06:00] <Maxdamantus> Moving ftl.
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Try what cWolfe said
[06:00] <Druntar> in vista yeah no problems
[06:00] <Maxdamantus> nfs-3g can read+write ntfs btw.
[06:00] <Druntar> ok I'll brb going to reboot into kubuntu
[06:01] <Maxdamantus> ntfs-3g*
[06:02] <K-Ryan> I'm so bored right now, I've run out of things to setup on Kubuntu and winbloze doesn't start up consistantly.
[06:02] <K-Ryan> Recommendations?
[06:03] <K-Ryan> =)
[06:03] <kalorin`> for how to fix windows?
[06:03] <K-Ryan> Nah, I can deal with that
[06:03] <kalorin`> ah
[06:03] <cWolfe> uh, i just installed hydrogen, its a drum machine
[06:03] <kalorin`> um...
[06:03] <kalorin`> nope not really
[06:03] <cWolfe> you can play gltron or some other game
[06:03] <kalorin`> figure me out a way to run photoshop3 natively? :)
[06:03] <K-Ryan> Eh...
[06:03] <kalorin`> that'll take a few hours
[06:03] <cWolfe> lol
[06:03] <cWolfe> you mean CS3
[06:03] <kalorin`> yeah
[06:04] <kalorin`> that's the one I mean
[06:04] <cWolfe> does CS or CS@ even run in wine yet?
[06:04] <kalorin`> might have to get a mac mini to do that or something
[06:04] <cWolfe> s/CS@/CS3
[06:04] <kalorin`> I think cs does
[06:04] <kalorin`> not sure about 3 or 2
[06:04] <kalorin`> wine is so slow though :(
[06:04] <kalorin`> faster to run it in vmware (free) and rdesktop to it and use it that way
[06:04] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Try vmware.
[06:04] <cWolfe> has anyone tried pizel32, its supposed to be close to photoshop
[06:04] <cWolfe> sorry - its pixel32
[06:04] <Maxdamantus> I use vmware for Flash 8.
[06:05] <kalorin`> really, have to go look
[06:05] <cWolfe> vmware is agreat thing
[06:05] <cWolfe> CS2 wasnt running well in the vmachine for me though
[06:06] <kalorin`> that looks pretty good
[06:06] <Maxdamantus> What OS?
[06:06] <kalorin`> cWolfe: elements runs fine for me on XP in a vmware
[06:06] <cWolfe> in vmware? winxp
[06:06] <Maxdamantus> XP Pro runs fine for me in vmware.
[06:06] <kalorin`> but don't use the vmware server console, rdesktop in
[06:06] <kalorin`> it's a lot faster
[06:06] <Maxdamantus> Turn off the Windows XP skin if you have it on.
[06:06] <Maxdamantus> Increases performance.
[06:07] <marccollin> hi
[06:07] <Maxdamantus> I have vmware running in the bg atm.
[06:07] <cWolfe> thanks for the tips kalorin  and Maxdamantus
[06:07] <marccollin> i click on install...... now i see the kubuntu login...... what is the username, password?
[06:08] <Druntar> ok cWolfe ran that line you gave me
[06:08] <Druntar> came back with no such file or directory
[06:08] <cWolfe> /etc/X11/ doesnt exist?
[06:08] <cWolfe> thats unpossible
[06:08] <Druntar> that's what it says
[06:09] <Druntar> feed me the line again
[06:09] <kalorin`> that pixel looks promosing
[06:09] <kalorin`> promising
[06:09] <Druntar> maybe I typed something wrong
[06:09] <cWolfe>  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[06:09] <K-Ryan> marccollin, you mean when you are installing?
[06:09] <K-Ryan> That's for you, you put in what you want your account name and password to be.
[06:09] <kalorin`> I suspect i'll use cs3 just because all the tips and tricks are using that and it's hard sometimes to translate that into other tools that might not have the same featuers
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> Druntar, why not stay on Linux, it's on the mouse that's not working.
[06:10] <kalorin`> but this is worth a look for sure
[06:10] <K-Ryan> !conquest-gl
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conquest-gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <kalorin`> yeah dual boot days are gone
[06:10] <kalorin`> never do that again
[06:10] <K-Ryan> Hmm, he usually knows about the packages
[06:10] <Druntar> I'm back in linux now
[06:10] <kalorin`> oh I want to run this.reboot!
[06:10] <kalorin`> now that, reboot!
[06:10] <kalorin`> lame
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> Turn on mouse keys.
[06:11] <marccollin> ya, K-Ryan
[06:11] <kalorin`> hitman, i'm not brave enough yet
[06:11] <kalorin`> got a nano last night
[06:11] <K-Ryan> Yeah, that's just what you want to use. Not some password that you need.
[06:11] <Druntar>         Driver          "kbd"
[06:11] <Druntar>         Driver          "mouse"
[06:11] <Druntar>         Driver          "wacom"
[06:11] <Druntar>         Driver          "wacom"
[06:11] <Druntar>         Driver          "wacom"
[06:11] <Druntar>         Driver          "nv"
[06:11] <kalorin`> I want to start using it but right now tit's the wifes
[06:11] <Druntar> that's what it fed me
[06:11] <kalorin`> cause hers is dead an shes doing a marathon relay tomorrow
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> Control Centre > Peripherals > Mouse > Mouse Navigation
[06:11] <cWolfe> okay druntar are you okay with editing files and such
[06:11] <Druntar> umm if you're willing to go slow
[06:12] <cWolfe> okay
[06:12] <Druntar> using linux for 3 days now
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> believe it or not, the steaming pile that is vista is what finally made me say goodbye forever
[06:12] <K-Ryan> Everyone starts soemwhere, it's alright
[06:12] <K-Ryan> *somewhere
[06:12] <Druntar> same here himanWilly
[06:12] <K-Ryan> I can't convince myself to go full time Kubuntu
[06:12] <K-Ryan> I game too much
[06:12] <cWolfe> do this 1st:   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> luckily for me, most of the games i play have nix versions
[06:13] <K-Ryan> I wish I could say the same
[06:13] <killermach_> K-Ryan: why can't you game in kubuntu?
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> K-Ryan, how much RAM do you have?
[06:13] <Druntar> another thing I find that if I turn the mouse down to 400dpi (hardware button) and move it real slow it lasts longer before locking up
[06:13] <K-Ryan> 512MB
[06:13] <cWolfe> then i want you to edit the mouse driver to use "evdev" instead of "mouse"
[06:13] <biovore> same here.. I plau UT2k4 almost exclusivly :P
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> :S
[06:13] <K-Ryan> Been upgrading my computer here and there
[06:13] <K-Ryan> It's 6 years old now
[06:14] <Maxdamantus> If you doubled that, you could run Linux with 512 and Windows with 512 at the same time.
[06:14] <K-Ryan> 1.8Ghz processor and that's what really kills me.
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> doom 3, quake 4, ut 04, etc.
[06:14] <killermach_> K-Ryan: oh..  you mean kubuntu vs winxp, I was thinking kde vs gnome
[06:14] <K-Ryan> Nuh uh =P
[06:14] <K-Ryan> I've only got enough room for 512 Maxdamantus
[06:14] <Maxdamantus> :S
[06:14] <Maxdamantus> What do you mean by enough room?
[06:14] <marccollin> why kubuntu ask me a password and never ask me to enter it?
[06:14] <K-Ryan> I don't mind it though
[06:15] <K-Ryan> Ram slots
[06:15] <Druntar> ok cwolfe says permission denied
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> older mobo, probably
[06:15] <Maxdamantus> marccollin, when Linux asks you for a password in a terminal, it won't display anything while you type it.
[06:15] <cWolfe> oh, sorry Druntar
[06:15] <K-Ryan> It is, 6 years by now
[06:15] <cWolfe> you need to sudo before it
[06:15] <Maxdamantus> The STDIN isn't shown while you enter it.
[06:15] <K-Ryan> Druntar, sudo before everything unless noted otherwise
[06:15] <cWolfe> like this:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:16] <Druntar> ok
[06:16] <Druntar> ok did it and it asked for password so I used mine and it went back to a blank line
[06:17] <cWolfe> thats normal Druntar
[06:17] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[06:17] <Druntar> ok just making sure lol
[06:17] <Druntar> next
[06:17] <K-Ryan> That means the command was carried out, no errors =P
[06:17] <cWolfe> so now Druntar you will "carefully" edit you xorg.conf
[06:17] <nirmal> how do i solve the dependency libxalan110 probem with virtualbox
[06:17] <kalorin`> oh wow
[06:18] <kalorin`> this pixel is REALLY very good
[06:18] <Druntar> O_o......and please tell me you're going to tell me how to do that.
[06:18] <kalorin`> even loads adobe digital negatives
[06:18] <cWolfe> you can kate if your in kde:  sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:18] <K-Ryan> Druntar I'm sure he'll walk you through it
[06:18] <cWolfe> or vim otherwise:  sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:18] <K-Ryan> What he means though, is edit only what he tells you to and touch nothing else.
[06:18] <TheDebugger> nirmal:  sudo apt-get install xalan
[06:18] <Druntar> so I need to do the kate thing since I'm in KDE
[06:18] <nirmal> oki
[06:19] <K-Ryan> yeah its sudo kate <line>
[06:19] <cWolfe> yeah, i wasnt sure if your mouse is working now, or if you were in a repair terminal
[06:19] <K-Ryan> i always forget the path to xorg
[06:19] <Druntar> it's working right now
[06:19] <kalorin`> heh
[06:19] <K-Ryan> Hasn't cut out yet?
[06:19] <kalorin`> I crashed pixel!
[06:20] <kalorin`> told it to load a canon raw image
[06:20] <kalorin`> funny
[06:20] <K-Ryan> That's strange how it just stops working
[06:20] <kalorin`> just *POOF*
[06:20] <Druntar> nope I'm alt tabbing and katapalting everything
[06:20] <cWolfe> pixel doesnt do raw?  :(  does it do .nef?
[06:20] <Druntar> like I said if I keep the dpi down and move it realllllly slow it lasts longer
[06:20] <Druntar> but it will go out
[06:20] <cWolfe> druntar do the kate thing then, not the vim one then
[06:21] <Druntar> kate is open with the conf
[06:21] <cWolfe> ok
[06:21] <kalorin`> well it can do it
[06:21] <cWolfe> find the mouse section
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> cWolfe: putting a newbie in vim is not reccomended :)
[06:21] <kalorin`> just crashed it for some reason on the other deal
[06:21] <kalorin`> not sure
[06:21] <cWolfe> yeah, i know
[06:21] <kalorin`> hitmanWilly: jump int he deep end, go for the vi
[06:21] <kalorin`> vim :)
[06:21] <kalorin`> they'll swim or go crying back to windows :)
[06:21] <Druntar> looks like section "inputdevice"
[06:21] <nirmal> E: Couldn't find package libxalan110
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:21] <Druntar> next line is indentifier "configured mouse"
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> why not emacs then :P
[06:22] <cWolfe> yeah, that sit Druntar
^^
[06:22] <Druntar> lol
[06:22] <Druntar> I'm willing to try VIM
[06:22] <Druntar> I'm a quick learner
[06:22] <Druntar> lol
[06:22] <cWolfe> the line  Driver          "mouse"  should be  Driver          "evdev"
[06:22] <K-Ryan> What's vim?
[06:22] <Maxdamantus> Vim is a command line based text editor. :P
[06:22] <Maxdamantus> Nothing like it.
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Oh, I prefer graphical
[06:23] <cWolfe> now, i cant garuntee that this will work, but its a better driver
[06:23] <kalorin`> ok pixel beta is buggy but shows promise
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Personally anyway..
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: then try it later, just not on anything vital :)
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> Well, it's graphical.
[06:23] <kalorin`> I'll stick with photoshop
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> But for example, to open something, you do something like
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> Ctrl + escape
[06:23] <Druntar> ok so I just hit save and then what?
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> O: /some/file.txt
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> Dunno. Havn't really used it much.
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Oh well, I'm content with kate =)
[06:23] <cWolfe> vim is easy, i inserts, d deletes, :q! quits, :qw quits and saves  <-- thats the basics
[06:24] <cWolfe> yeah, Druntar hit save, and restart your X
[06:24] <Druntar> ....restart my what?
[06:24] <Druntar> lol
[06:24] <cWolfe> either log out and back in orr hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:26] <K`zan> Should I use reiserfs or ext3?
[06:26] <voidmage> ext3
[06:26] <voidmage> reiser killed someone
[06:26] <voidmage> :P
[06:26] <nirmal> how do i solve the dependency prob libxalan110 for the package virtualbox
[06:26] <voidmage> reiser is good if you have lots and lots of small files
[06:26] <radeux> Isn't reiserfs faster?
[06:26] <radeux> I just installed Kubuntu with it.
[06:26] <voidmage> but i wouldn't use it if you have one partition
[06:26] <voidmage> i don'tthink grub works on it
[06:26] <K-Ryan> nirmal, what do you mean? It's missing a dependency?
[06:27] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install libxalan110
[06:27] <radeux> GRUB works just fine with it.
[06:27] <K`zan> voidmage: LOL, I've got reiser on this box, putting together a 7.04 for my roomie ...
[06:27] <radeux> Yeah I have no problem with reiserfs and GRUB...
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> voidmage: grub works just fine with reiser
[06:27] <voidmage> i'm thinking of xfs
[06:27] <voidmage> BUT REISER KILLED SOMEONE
[06:27] <voidmage> AND i"M NOT HERE NOW
[06:28] <K`zan> OK, I'll stick with ext3, that has been good over the years...
[06:28] <radeux> Probably because they tried to change file types.
[06:28] <radeux> That usually kills a reiser user.
[06:28] <radeux> Yaaaay. My firefox is done installing.
[06:29] <radeux> So does anyone know if apt-get has installation files for Cedega?
[06:29] <radeux> Or, cedega CVS?
[06:29] <AmyRose> Konqueror > Firefox
[06:29] <radeux> I just want to play Windows games.
[06:30] <AmyRose> Linux is not designed to play Windows games. Don't expect them to work.
[06:30] <radeux> Well yeah.
[06:30] <radeux> But I kind of have no choice.
[06:30] <sep1318> i don't think cedega is in the repos. simple way to find out: search. :)
[06:30] <radeux> That's the thing.
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> radeux: cedega's sortta proprietary, the cvs source doesn't really work
[06:31] <stratman4300> i think you have to get the .deb files from transgaming.com
[06:31] <radeux> How do you know what kind of stuff apt-get gives you.
[06:31] <biovore> cedega is a commerical product.. cost money
[06:31] <kalorin`> cedega isn't free
[06:31] <stratman4300> i would try wine   :)
[06:31] <radeux> There's a CVS version that's free.
[06:31] <radeux> But I tried it on a bunch of distros and never worked.
[06:31] <kalorin`> radeux -> try adept package manager from the utilities area
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> radeux: yeah, but its missing stuff
[06:31] <radeux> I just want to play Warcraft III.
[06:31] <radeux> Haha.
[06:31] <biovore> true.. but the CVS is only the OpenSource stuff.. no close source stuff in it like Direct X emulation..
[06:32] <leo> hi everybody!
[06:32] <radeux> Hello~
[06:32] <cWolfe> hi leo
[06:32] <stratman4300> I know Warcraft 3 is supported by wine
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> radeux: i think that works in wine iirc
[06:32] <radeux> Then I guess I'll just get Wine then.
[06:32] <stratman4300> runs pretty decently in my experience
[06:32] <Druntar> hey guys
[06:32] <Maxdamantus> If you run vmware player, in KDM, it opens a session for it.
[06:32] <Druntar> problem
[06:32] <cWolfe> hey druntar
[06:32] <Druntar> linux won't boot
[06:32] <cWolfe> :(
[06:33] <Druntar> shows kubuntu splash
[06:33] <Maxdamantus> If I press ctrl + alt + f9 right now, it goes to full screen Windows XP.
[06:33] <Druntar> then cuts back to it then gives me a blank command line
[06:33] <radeux> So how do you know if apt-get has what kind of stuff they have?
[06:33] <Maxdamantus> Druntar, does it say anything on the command line?
[06:33] <cWolfe> get to recovery console, and you can sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:33] <Druntar> nope
[06:33] <radeux> Or maybe I'll just get vmware instead.
[06:33] <Druntar> ok thanx cwolfe
[06:33] <Maxdamantus> vmware ftw.
[06:34] <Druntar> we'll try again here in a sec
[06:34] <Druntar> brb
[06:34] <Maxdamantus> Wait.
[06:34] <Maxdamantus> If that doesn't work, boot back into Windows.
[06:34] <stratman4300> question about vmware....   i know there is a free player, but does that let you setup virtual machines???
[06:34] <abortd> how can i find out if my opengl is working properly?
[06:34] <Maxdamantus> You can get some ext3 driver to use on Windows.
[06:34] <cWolfe> Druntar,
[06:34] <Maxdamantus> Then back it up with that.
[06:34] <sep1318> radeux: i'd go for wine. in adept manager there's a search field where you can just type wine or w/e, and it'll come up with the related packages
[06:34] <lclhst> free doesn't let you install servers
[06:34] <lclhst> er, player
[06:34] <biovore> stratman4300: just install the vmware-server.. its free
[06:34] <radeux> Alright, thanks sep.
[06:34] <lclhst> only the server
[06:34] <kalorin`> use the free server
[06:34] <kalorin`> and yes it does
[06:35] <kalorin`> also there's other things like vbosx
[06:35] <kalorin`> vbox
[06:35] <stratman4300> alrighty.... thanks
[06:35] <lclhst> eeeek, vbox
[06:35] <kalorin`> I use vmware cause that's what we use at work so I figured I'd play iwth it
[06:35] <lclhst> the ugly step sister
[06:35] <cWolfe> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf    is what i should have typed
[06:35] <Maxdamantus> What exactly is vmware-server?
[06:35] <kalorin`> it's the server
[06:35] <Maxdamantus> Is it like the equivalent of Xorg?
[06:35] <kalorin`> allows you to set up and install vmware images
[06:35] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[06:35] <cWolfe> vmware server doesnt need X
[06:36] <kalorin`> little window app that lets you say this box get these options
[06:36] <cWolfe> player does
[06:36] <kalorin`> ok boot it
[06:36] <kalorin`> and so on
[06:36] <cWolfe> server you need a liscence
[06:36] <kalorin`> license is free, register for email
[06:36] <lclhst> anyone here played with freenx/nomachine?
[06:36] <kalorin`> vmware.com -> products -> free virtualization tools
[06:36] <kalorin`> I've heard tell though that the real shiznatz is xen
[06:37] <kalorin`> but it wouldn't be so easy to do what I want to do with xen I think
[06:37] <lclhst> xen is a complete hoser to install
[06:37] <kalorin`> or maybe it iwll
[06:37] <cWolfe> yeah, unisys is getting sexy with Xen
[06:37] <Druntar> yay
[06:37] <Druntar> back in linux
[06:37] <kalorin`> yeah but preformance is great iwth xen I understand
[06:37] <cWolfe> good
[06:37] <kalorin`> ok nighty
[06:37] <cWolfe> but we never solved your problem
[06:37] <Druntar> question is adept supposed to ask for my password everytime I log in?
[06:38] <Druntar> well I think I may have accidentally messed it up I'm going to try it again
[06:38] <cWolfe> every time you use it: yes, every time you log in: no...
[06:38] <Druntar> well when I log in it automatically pops up
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> You probably had some root apps open.
[06:38] <Druntar> ok so open konsole
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> If you were running something as root, it will ask for the password on startup to open it again.
[06:39] <Druntar> says run as root adept_updater '-session' '1010e1a71ba1b7'
[06:40] <stratman4300> if a new nvidia-glx package is installed do i have to recompike the driver as well???
[06:41] <sep1318> stratman4300: i don't think so, since that essentially IS the new driver....
[06:41] <sep1318> tho i could be wrong
[06:41] <stratman4300> thats what i figured too
[06:41] <stratman4300> wasn't entirely sure though  :P  guess i'll find out
[06:41] <sep1318> hehe yeah
[06:41] <radeux> So uhh.
[06:41] <radeux> Trying to install flash here.
[06:41] <radeux> tarball or rpm?
[06:42] <Druntar> ok resaved the backup of xorg.conf
[06:42] <crimsun> why not use the flashplugin-nonfree package in the repositories?
[06:42] <crimsun> ^ radeux
[06:42] <stratman4300> you have an x86 system or amd64???
 its  a missing dependency and with apt i get error E:Could not find package libxalan110
[06:42] <radeux> amd64
[06:42] <crimsun> radeux: there's no Flash 9 plugin for amd64.
[06:42] <K-Ryan> nirmal you have your repositories opened right?
[06:42] <Druntar> redid the changes to xorg.conf making sure to not alter anything other then that one line. Question how do I know if I even have evdev installed to use it?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Hi crimsun
[06:42] <radeux> I'm having problems with Adept Manager.
[06:42] <nirmal> in the sourcelist
[06:42] <radeux> Adept manager doesn't let me install anything.
[06:42] <stratman4300> if you want the commecial plugins like adobe flash you'll have to use a 32 bit version of firefox
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Or do a chroot
[06:43] <K-Ryan> Yes nirmal
[06:43] <radeux> Hmm.
[06:43] <Druntar> cwolfe you still alive?
[06:43] <radeux> Well can I get the free flash through apt-get?
[06:43] <stratman4300> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28java%29%7C%28amd64%29
[06:43] <stratman4300> try that link
[06:43] <stratman4300> good instructions
[06:43] <radeux> Okay.
[06:43] <stratman4300> don't have to setup a chroot either
[06:43] <nirmal> should i need to open them all
[06:45] <Druntar> ok I relogged
[06:45] <Druntar> and no problems
[06:45] <Druntar> how do I know if it's using the right driver now?
[06:45] <b0rt> hello all
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Hello b0rt
[06:45] <K-Ryan> nirmal I'm not sure what that package is in
[06:46] <K-Ryan> hold on and i'll see if I can figure it out
[06:46] <Druntar> ok says xorg.conf is now using evdev as mouse driver
[06:46] <Druntar> guess I just take it for a test drive and see if it locks up?
[06:48] <Druntar> Ok, took it up to 2000dpi and it locked again
[06:48] <Druntar> using the evdev driver
[06:48] <K-Ryan> nirmal it's in the universe repository
[06:48] <nirmal> actually when i update it i never get anything
[06:48] <K-Ryan> have you done a sudo apt-get update?
[06:48] <nirmal> now the universe packages are getting updated
[06:48] <nirmal> i have opened them
[06:48] <K-Ryan> or the Adept equivalent
[06:49] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: No being bored would be downloading a BeOS R4 image broken up into floppy size bites
[06:49] <Druntar> Is anyone still with me on this?
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:49] <K-Ryan> Druntar I'm listening, just it's beyond my help
[06:49] <Druntar> lol ok
[06:49] <Druntar> wonder what happened to wolfe
[06:49] <K-Ryan> I know bits and pieces, I'm rather new to Kubuntu and Linux in general
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: it sounds like the mouse input is building up in the buffer and not being flushed properly
[06:50] <K-Ryan> I haven't done anything super duper advanced but I know the basics and that's what a lot of people need help with so I stick around
[06:50] <sep1318> I'm with you, K-Ryan
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Like what hitmanWilly said, I wouldn't be able to figure that out or tell you how to fix it
[06:50] <Druntar> hitmanWilly you're speaking greek man
[06:50] <K-Ryan> ;)
[06:50] <Druntar> <-----wishes he was a super user
[06:51] <Druntar> :(
[06:51] <K-Ryan> From what I gather, your mouse is issuing too many commands and it's kind of getting backed up.
[06:51] <K-Ryan> In simpler terms
[06:51] <Druntar> that makes sense
[06:51] <K-Ryan> Am I right hitmanWilly?
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> more or less
[06:51] <K-Ryan> *score*
[06:51] <Druntar> any ideas on how to fix it?
[06:51] <K-Ryan> That was my next question =)
[06:51] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[06:51] <K-Ryan> !logitech
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> normally that should get flushed, but it seems the driver is doing a really bad job of it
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Oh well, always worth a shot...
[06:52] <Druntar> .....:*(
[06:52] <Druntar> I love this mouse
[06:52] <Druntar> I don't want to lose it
[06:52] <K`zan> Interesting, both fat16 and fat32 filesystem formats fail under 7.04 :-(
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Don't worry Druntar, there's definitely a way to use it.
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: try taking the dpi down to a more reasonable level, ie 2000
[06:53] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly, I think you need to simplify that a bit
[06:53] <Druntar> it's highest is 2000
[06:53] <K-Ryan> Oh, guess not
[06:53] <Druntar> lowest is 400
[06:53] <K-Ryan> I don't know what that is =)
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: try the lowest and work from there
[06:53] <Druntar> it has hardware buttons that switch between 2000, 800, and 400
[06:53] <K-Ryan> Don't mind me, continue
[06:53] <Druntar> in 2000 it locks almost instanly
[06:54] <Druntar> in 400 it's ok if I move really slow
[06:54] <sep1318> try 8?
 it solved the prob
[06:54] <Druntar> dot per inch
[06:54] <K`zan> Takes for bloody ever to scan the disk too, sigh...
[06:54] <K-Ryan> nirmal: Glad to hear
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: honestly, fixing this is a little beyond me, but at least you know where the problem is...
[06:54] <Druntar> K-Ryan it's ok man I didn't know it either till I got into FPS games and realized it had an effect on my game
[06:54] <nirmal> thanks for the help
[06:54] <leo> im new to kubuntu (and linux), just a few days.... but im loving it!
[06:55] <K-Ryan> Wouldn't it just be more of a sensitivity kind of thing?
[06:55] <Druntar> I wonder if evdev is using different default dpis for the mouse
[06:55] <Druntar> that could be the problem
[06:55] <sep1318> K-Ryan: resolution of the mouse camera is proportional to how accurate/sensitive it can be. like the details you can pick out from a digital image
[06:55] <K-Ryan> leo, what's up? questions? problems?
[06:55] <sep1318> (methinx)
[06:55] <Druntar> it effects response time from when you move the mouse to motion in the cursor
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: my creative fatal1ty worked fine and it went up to like 2400
[06:56] <K-Ryan> Response time? I've never had a mouse that lagged.
[06:56] <leo> K-Ryan, no problems by now, thanks.. just reading and learning... installing beryl right now.. so excited!
[06:56] <Druntar> guess I'll be using windows a bit longer then......I need it for school.
[06:56] <Druntar> it's response time and precision
[06:56] <K-Ryan> Alright leo, if you have any questions feel free to ask, someone is bound to be able to help.
[06:56] <Druntar> sep1318 hit it pretty much on the nose
[06:57] <sep1318> :) thnx.
[06:57] <Druntar> yeah beryl's not working for me :(
[06:57] <sep1318> have you tried using another driver or mouse?
[06:57] <leo> K-Ryan: thank you very much
[06:57] <Druntar> I'm having all kinds of issues
[06:57] <K-Ryan> I understand the precision, but the response time part sounds strange to me. Go figure
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: it has to do with how fast your mouse moves
[06:57] <K-Ryan> Yes, sensitivity, no?
[06:57] <DaSkreech> leo, K-Ryan : welcome!!
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> at 1200 dpi, it moves twice as fast as 600, etc
[06:58] <Druntar> hell it took me 2 days to install kubuntu and this comp isn't 3 months old
[06:58] <sep1318> wow.
[06:58] <leo> DasSkreech, thanks!
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Yes, so it increases the sensitivity doesn't it?
[06:58] <sep1318> congrats for sticking with it, Druntar
[06:58] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech, welcome?
[06:58] <K`zan> I may be waiting that long for it to scan the disks :)
[06:58] <Druntar> I WANT LINUX
[06:58] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: to Linux and Kubuntu
[06:58] <Druntar> but need windows for school right now :(
[06:58] <K-Ryan> You've got the wrong guy =P
[06:59] <K-Ryan> But thanks =)
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Druntar: Depends on how stubborn you are you can probably get away with Linux :)
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Druntar: Dual boot is an option
[06:59] <Druntar> lol this is true hold on let me try something
[06:59] <K-Ryan> That's what I do
[06:59] <Druntar> how do I log out without a mouse?
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Erm
[06:59] <Maxdamantus> Why do you need Windows?
[06:59] <K-Ryan> ctrl+alt+delete
[06:59] <Druntar> I go to university of phoenix online
[06:59] <Maxdamantus> Druntar.
[06:59] <Druntar> duh
[06:59] <K-Ryan> then select restart/shutdown
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Druntar: where are you now?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Oh log OUT
[07:00] <DaSkreech> alt+F1
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Oh, log out...
[07:00] <Druntar> sorry K-Ryan my brain went stupid it's late
[07:00] <Maxdamantus> Next time you boot up, Control Centre > Peripherals > Mouse > Mouse navigation.
[07:00] <Maxdamantus> Enable mouse keys. :P
[07:00] <Maxdamantus> Oh, actually, wait.
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Wait never mind, you can do that in that menu too
[07:00] <K-Ryan> It's alright Druntar
[07:00] <Maxdamantus> Before you go, try "sudo cat /dev/mice"
[07:00] <Druntar> waiting....
[07:00] <Druntar> ok one sec
[07:01] <Maxdamantus> And see if it outputs anything while you move the mouse.
[07:01] <Druntar> thank god someone taught me how to use katapault
[07:01] <Maxdamantus> That will make you aware if it's the Kernel, or X.
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Haha
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Druntar: Whooot
[07:01] <K`zan> ok lets see if it makes it through partitioning without using fat16 or 32 for one of the partitions...
[07:01] <K-Ryan> It never really caught on with me.
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Might want to look at yakuake as well
[07:01] <K-Ryan> I like going into menus and stuff
[07:01] <Maxdamantus> Sorry, "sudo cat /dev/input/mice"
[07:02] <sep1318> yakuake is very very handy
[07:02] <Druntar> when you have no mouse
[07:02] <K-Ryan> Yeah I know =P
[07:02] <Druntar> you use katapault
[07:02] <Druntar> lol
[07:02] <sep1318> hehe yeah. or shortcuts to menus
[07:02] <K-Ryan> I mean if I needed faster access to stuff or really did a lot more with Kubuntu, I'd probably use it
[07:02] <Druntar> ok did that line and moved the mouse and nothing happened
[07:02] <K-Ryan> But everything is within reach for the msot part
[07:03] <DaSkreech> my mouse is waaaaaayyyy -----------------------> over there
[07:03] <K-Ryan> Well it's getting a bit late and I have to get up early too.
[07:03] <K`zan> I sure hope the rest goes faster than this partitioning, been at it for a couple hours now...
[07:03] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: Hope to see you around man
[07:03] <K-Ryan> I'll catch you guys later, good luck with your mouse Druntar.
[07:03] <Druntar> later K-Ryan
[07:03] <DaSkreech> (assumes K-Ryan is a man)
[07:04] <K-Ryan> Yeah I am =P
[07:04] <Maxdamantus> Ok, It must be the kernel then.
[07:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:04] <K-Ryan> Alright, see ya'
[07:04] <Maxdamantus> So it hasn't closed cat?
[07:04] <Druntar> just gave me a blank command line
[07:04] <Maxdamantus> If it says something like user@localhost:/$ then it's closed it.
[07:04] <Druntar> mouse isn't working right now though
[07:05] <Druntar> should I log out and back in to get the mouse working then try it?
[07:05] <Maxdamantus> If you want.
[07:05] <Maxdamantus> Brb
[07:05] <K`zan> Methinketh that 80G drive is going west, making a hell of a racket formatting...
[07:06] <Druntar> ok logging out and back in doesn't fix it
[07:06] <Druntar> so I'm looking at another reboot
[07:06] <Druntar> to get the mouse responding at all again
[07:07] <Maxdamantus> Yea, it'll be with the kernel then.
[07:07] <Maxdamantus> Not sure if the drivers go before X, or after it.
[07:07] <Druntar> ok what does that mean?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Maxdamantus: Drivers would have to go before *
[07:08] <DaSkreech> software can't use hardware if it has no clue how to talk to it
[07:08] <leo> wow! Beryls is amazing! :D How do I rotate the cube in 3D???
[07:09] <crimsun> ctrl+alt+left arrow or ctrl+alt+right arrow
[07:09] <sep1318> Druntar: methinx it means that there's a problem with the driver, or with the kernel module that the driver is part of.
[07:09] <crimsun> you can customise it
[07:09] <DaSkreech> leo: alt+ctrl+arrow keys
[07:09] <Maxdamantus> DaSkreech, is /dev/input/mice outputted from the driver, or the signals recieved through the ps/2 or wherever it's coming from?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Maxdamantus: It should be a sim link see where it's pointing to
[07:10] <leo> thanks DaSkreech and crimsum
[07:10] <Maxdamantus> No, /dev/input/mice is raw mouse actions.
[07:10] <Maxdamantus> Try it.
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Oh wait.. yeah
[07:10] <Maxdamantus> You can understand how it reads it.
[07:11] <Maxdamantus> Are they raw signals inputted from the device, or computed mouse actions?
[07:11] <Maxdamantus> I'll try watching it with my serial mouse.
[07:11] <Maxdamantus> Later.
[07:13] <Druntar> so yeah I guess I'm just left with no mouse for now
[07:13] <Druntar> well I'm heading back to windows for a bit have a project due tonight
[07:16] <DaSkreech> !find exercise
[07:16] <Druntar> hey guys
[07:16] <Druntar> back from windows
[07:16] <ubotu> Package/file exercise does not exist in feisty
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Waht?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Why do you need windows?
[07:17] <K`zan> Looks like that drive may well indeed be bad, swapped it out for another and re-starting the install...
[07:18] <Druntar> because my mouse works there and I have online classes that have projects due 2 days ago but I put off because I was trying to get linux to work
[07:19] <Druntar> I'll have to coem back to linux once I turn this in
[07:19] <Druntar> I'll still be in here chatting though
[07:20] <Druntar> I haven't had the chance to get my windows stuff moved to my linux part yet
[07:20] <Druntar> and class work is over here still
[07:20] <sep1318> good luck with that, Druntar
[07:21] <DaSkreech> !search exercise
[07:21] <ubotu> Found:
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Druntar: You can just mount your windows partition
[07:22] <sep1318> that's not his rpoblem. his problem is his mouse.
[07:22] <Druntar> see sep1318 understands me lol ;)
[07:23] <sep1318> i try :)
[07:23] <rudefyet> anyone know what font the default monospace font in kubuntu is linked to?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> !info gdeskcal
[07:24] <ubotu> gdeskcal: A desktop calendar featuring transparency with smooth alpha-blending. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.57.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 176 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[07:27] <crimsun> rudefyet: DejaVu Sans Mono IIRC
[07:28] <leo> I've just installed Beryl... how many desktop should i set up? 6?
[07:30] <sep1318> leo: depends on how many you think ou need. i've only had 4. you can alwaus change th number
[07:31] <Druntar> ok going back to linux brb
[07:31] <leo> sep1318, ok, but each face of the cube isnt a desktop?
[07:31] <Maxdamantus> 20.
[07:31] <Maxdamantus> Yes, it is.
[07:31] <Maxdamantus> If you have 6 desktops, it will be a hexagon.
[07:31] <sep1318> exactly
[07:31] <Maxdamantus> If you have 10, it will be a decahedron.
[07:31] <leo> so, why do i have 24 right now? :S
[07:31] <Maxdamantus> With 12, a dodechahedron.
[07:31] <Maxdamantus> And so forth.
[07:31] <Maxdamantus> Or however you spell it.
[07:32] <K`zan> Partitioning works much better with a good drive :).
[07:32] <Maxdamantus> Wait, no, a dodecahedron is 20 10 sided shapes isn't it?
[07:32] <leo> you mean i'll have as many faces as the number of desktops i set?
[07:32] <Maxdamantus> Yes, you will.
[07:33] <sep1318> leo: you set up 6 desktops for each of your 4 defaults......beryl cubes work wierd like that.
[07:33] <leo> ohh, ok, i understand now
[07:33] <leo> sep1318, so, for each face of the cube i have 6 desktops?
[07:33] <Maxdamantus> I use 4 desktops, beryl is laggy on my card.
[07:34] <sep1318> no, leo. 1 face/desktop.
[07:35] <sep1318> but you had four desktops before beryl, no? and then you set up the cube for 6? so each of the 4 got fractured into 6, = 24
[07:35] <leo> sep1318, ok, so if i want a simple cube, i should set up 6 desktops?
[07:37] <sep1318> no..1.
[07:38] <sep1318> thought i'm not exactly sure, now that i think about it. the math with the cubes v the desktops before hand i'm fuzzy on.
[07:39] <sep1318> the top and bottom faces usually aren't desktops, i don't think
[07:39] <Maxdamantus> Woot! Finally got samba to work writable.
[07:39] <sep1318> or they weren't for me, cuz i only had 4.
[07:39] <Maxdamantus> Can run Windows in vm nicely now.
[07:39] <sep1318> nice, Maxdamantus
[07:40] <Druntar> linux hates me
[07:40] <Druntar> lol
[07:40] <sep1318> awww
[07:40] <sep1318> lemme try this again, leo. slowly.
[07:40] <sep1318> how many desktops did you ahve before turning beryl on?
[07:40] <Druntar> ok I'm starting to wonder if I have evdev installed at all because with that change in the xorg.conf linux won't boot
[07:41] <leo> sep1318, ok, im trying it too
[07:41] <sep1318> that would make sense, Druntar.....tho in a bad way.
[07:41] <sep1318> well, leo, my point was to figure out the math first, and then suggest stuffs.
[07:41] <Druntar> well ok I tried that cat /dev/input/mice command, and it's picking up the mouse now
[07:42] <Druntar> with the mouse working anyway
[07:42] <sep1318> nice.
[07:42] <leo> sep1318, ok... if i set 6 desktops, it appears 24 on the tray
[07:42] <leo> if i set 1, it appears 4
[07:43] <Druntar> it's setting the number of desktops on each side of the cube
[07:43] <Druntar> how can I find out if I have evdev?
[07:43] <Druntar> !evdev
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <sep1318> it's effectively giving you that number of desktops per desktop, leo
[07:44] <sep1318> so I'd go for the 1 -> 4 approach.
[07:44] <Druntar> that will give you 1 desktop on each side of the cube leo
[07:44] <leo> sep1318, ok, i can only use 4 faces of the cube, no?
[07:44] <Druntar> leo what you're changing is the number of desktops per side of the cube
[07:44] <Druntar> leo that's correct
[07:45] <leo> Druntar, yeah, i get it now
[07:45] <new> mais je comprend pas pourquoi sous l auztre session j ai cette lenteur d criture ds tous les programmes
[07:45] <jlilly> anyone here running beryl that can help me out? It should take just < 1 min
[07:45] <new> et impossible a configurer la vitesse , rien ne change ds la config clavier !
[07:45] <jlilly> just PM me if you can help
[07:45] <new>  j ai peu etre sans faire expr activ les touches lent quand j ai soulign du texte ds konqueror , la il m a poser une question , voullez vous activ les touches lente et j ai dit oui par erreur
[07:45] <new> [07:40]  <new_> c est peut etre cela mais je sais pas comment remettre normal puis ce que  c  est arriv comme ca !
[07:45] <sep1318> If you want six cube faces, set the number of desktops in K to 1, and the number of cube desktops in beryl to 6
[07:45] <leo> sep1318, thanks a lot
[07:45] <Druntar> Can someone please tell me how to determine if I have evdev in my system?
[07:45] <sep1318> np, leo.
[07:45] <sep1318> new, !fr
[07:46] <leo> sep1318, great! :)
[07:46] <sep1318> i'm at a loss, Druntar
[07:46] <new> peut etre appluier sur plusieur touche ce qui a activ un racourci mais je sais pas le quel
[07:46] <new> new = pepe
[07:46] <sep1318> !french
[07:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:47] <Druntar> ok sep1318 I got one for you
[07:47] <sep1318> hit me with it
[07:47] <Druntar> how do I get bereyl to do anything lol
[07:47] <sep1318> hehehehhe. what do you mean?
[07:47] <Druntar> I installed it but none of the settings changes seem to do anything
[07:48] <AmyRose> Druntar: You should install beryl-manager and then run it
[07:48] <sep1318> are you running beryl-manager?
[07:48] <AmyRose> it will give you a tray icon to control it
[07:48] <leo> !spanish
[07:48] <Druntar> no I think I got the simplefied kubuntu manager
[07:49] <sep1318> there it is, then. I think it doesn't do much unless you're running it with it's emerald win-manager
[07:49] <Druntar> ok opening adept now
[07:50] <K`zan> great, made it through the install and now no mouse, which was working fine for the install, sigh.  Anything I can do about this?
[07:50] <Druntar> or trying to
[07:50] <Druntar> K'zan you can join me on the "my mouse doesn't work" bench
[07:50] <K`zan> looks like no usb?!?
[07:50] <sep1318> you might already have it if you've got beryl, Druntar
[07:51] <Druntar> I grabbed the emerald theme manager is that it?
[07:51] <sep1318> yeah, that'll help.
[07:51] <Moisteh> sup guys
[07:51] <Druntar> ok I have emerald themer 0.2.1 open
[07:51] <K`zan> Druntar: I guess I'll have to, starting to think that going to 6.06 might be a good idea, LOTS of problems with 7.04 :-(
[07:51] <sep1318> when you run beryl-manager, make sure the window manager is set to emerald, and you'll be good to go
[07:51] <Druntar> I'm completely new to linux imagine how I feel lol
[07:52] <Moisteh> i just finished making my ubuntu look just like a mac
[07:52] <Moisteh> :D
[07:52] <AmyRose> If you want to use KDE's window themes, you can install aquamarine and use that instead of emerald
[07:52] <K`zan> usb core only, oy...
[07:53] <Druntar> I don't think I can because of that stupid simplefied manager I downloaded
[07:53] <A_A> when i open azureus the splash screen comes up and it loads everything, then the main screen comes up and then dissapears straight away. anyone know y it does that ?
[07:53] <K`zan> Serial mouse doesn't work either....
[07:53] <Druntar> ahhh I failed to get the beryl manager
[07:53] <new> yes
[07:53] <new> sorry
[07:54] <K`zan> Anyone know what it takes to get a usb mouse working with 7.04?
[07:54] <sep1318> that'd be the most of your problems, Druntar
[07:54] <Druntar> ok my whole screen went white
[07:54] <K`zan> Sigh, lets try ps2...
[07:55] <DaSkreech> !mouse
[07:55] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:55] <don_> keep restarting it will find it
[07:55] <K`zan> Aha, same problem that existed with the beta, USB stuff has to be unplugged and replugged to work, surprised that didn't get fixed before they released this....
[07:56] <don_> ther is a command to scan hardware i cant remember
[07:56] <K`zan> Druntar: If your mouse is USB, try unplugging and re-plugging, looks like USB has real problems in Feisty :-(.
[07:56] <Maxdamantus> don, what do you mean?
[07:56] <Druntar> ok linux REALLY hates me
[07:56] <sep1318> what now?
[07:57] <Druntar> did that and it didn't fix it
[07:57] <Druntar> opened the beryl manager and my screen went completely white
[07:57] <A_A> my usb mouse works fine in feisty
[07:57] <K`zan> Druntar: I think I am going to download 6.06,  Feisty has USB problems on all the machines here...
[07:57] <Druntar> K`zan I may just do that myself
[07:58] <K`zan> Dragging the machine out and unplugging all the USB stuff and plugging it back in every time you boot just SUCKS
[07:58] <sep1318> I'm not really sure what to tell you, Druntar. Sorry, man.
[07:58] <Druntar> Anyone know why beryl would make my whole screen go white and become nonresponsive?
[07:58] <A_A> when i open azureus the splash screen comes up and it loads everything, then the main window opens and then dissapears straight away. anyone know y it does that ?
[07:58] <don_> Ii had trouble usb, restart   or there is a command to scan hardware i read on a site
[07:58] <K`zan> 6.06 really worked well, looks like Feisty is just not ready for prime time :-(, at least with USB.
[07:59] <Druntar> hey Maxdamantus that cat /dev/input/mice picks up the mouse when it's working but doesn't when it's not
[07:59] <don_> should not have to once it knows
[07:59] <Druntar> I was wondering if there was a way to make sure I have evdev on my system
[08:00] <sep1318> Druntar: it might be your video card...that's why I can't use beryl, since I only have 32mb of RAM on it...so everything is black since I run out of memory fast.
[08:00] <ubunturos> amarok doesn't play audio CDs in 6.06?
[08:00] <don_> I dont like resolution
[08:00] <biovore> it should..
[08:00] <K`zan> Is there a support channel for Edgy?
[08:00] <Druntar> sep1318 that shouldn't be my problem I have dual nvidia 7800 GS vid cards with 526 onboard each
[08:00] <Maxdamantus> This channel if for all.
[08:01] <don_> all what?
[08:01] <sep1318> ok. just throwin out an idea, Druntar
[08:01] <K`zan> Maxdamantus: Are they planning on fixing Feisty's USB problems?  I've had a bug report filed for quite some time and no action on it :-(.
[08:01] <Druntar> the only weak part of this system is that it only has 1 gig of ram
[08:01] <Maxdamantus> No idea, I don't really know much about Ubuntu really.
[08:01] <DaSkreech> K`zan: this would be it. Just mention taht you are a using edgy
[08:01] <K`zan> AH, OK
[08:01] <Maxdamantus> I'm used to all the manual Linux stuff.
[08:01] <Druntar> I know sep1318 and I appreciate it
[08:02] <don_> join the croud!
[08:02] <Maxdamantus> Only started using Kubuntu so I could use sound. Couldn't get it working on Gentoo.
[08:02] <don_> commands are different
[08:02] <Maxdamantus> Most questions people ask here are plain Linux, not Kubuntu in-particular.
[08:02] <K`zan> DaSkreech: OK, I'm dumping Feisty, I am NOT going to drag the machine out to unplug and replug every time I boot, bad enough on this box, but it is reasonably easy to drag out.
[08:02] <Druntar> What is the best distro of linux for hardware recognition?
[08:02] <don_> change cards?
[08:02] <sep1318> Druntar: see if you can find out (thru adept or so) if ou have xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed
[08:03] <sep1318> cuz that's evdev
[08:03] <Maxdamantus> Druntar, it's about the drivers.
[08:03] <don_> konopix
[08:03] <b0rt> does any1 know a distro with c++ and/or java ?
[08:03] <Druntar> I was thinking maybe I didn't have evdev installed which is why changing it in xorg.conf didn't fix the problem and why I couldn't boot into linux after changing it
[08:03] <b0rt> compiler i meant
[08:03] <don_> Knoppix
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> b0rt, it's not the distro.
[08:04] <b0rt> i mean liveCD sorry
[08:04] <b0rt> or liveDVD
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> C++ is compiled with GCC I believe.
[08:04] <b0rt> omg
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> And Java is only compiled at runtime.
[08:04] <b0rt> yea
[08:04] <Druntar> ok searching for xorg and evdev in adept installer comes up with no responses
[08:04] <b0rt> yea interpreter or sth
[08:04] <b0rt> sorry my english stinks
[08:05] <sep1318> hmm...
[08:05] <b0rt> for liveCD with adept?
[08:05] <b0rt> i just want the name of the distro live
[08:05] <b0rt> with gcc
[08:05] <ubunturos> damn! kscd isn't playing audio CDs as well :(
[08:05] <sep1318> Druntar: cuz i just tried "apt-cache search xserver-xorg-input-evdev" and it says its there.
[08:06] <b0rt> xserver-xorg-input-evdev - X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
[08:06] <Druntar> ok switched to adept manager instead of add remove programs but it crashed on me :(
[08:06] <sep1318> ok.
[08:07] <sep1318> just run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evdev" in a konsole
[08:07] <Druntar> well at least the mouse hasn't died yet
[08:07] <sep1318> if it's already installed, it won't do anything, and if it isn't, you'll get it.
[08:07] <sep1318> good :)
[08:07] <Druntar> ok adept manager says it's installed
[08:08] <zerozero> is ther a command that I can run to flush the dns cache on my local machine?
[08:08] <Druntar> so as long as I don't do anything that requires the mouse to move fast in linux I'm ok
[08:08] <Druntar> and if I don't try to make it look the way I want
[08:08] <Druntar> lol
[08:08] <DaSkreech> Druntar: you'll probably fix that in a little while :)
[08:09] <lespea> hey everybody
[08:09] <sep1318> Druntar: take a look at this? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Logitech_mice_dapper
[08:09] <K`zan> Gonna try updates before I trash Feisty, not expecting it to work, hasn't on this box :-(.
[08:10] <zerozero> i would think ifconfig would have something but i don't see a parm for it.
[08:11] <sep1318> zerozero: try this? http://www.tech-faq.com/flush-dns.shtml
[08:12] <sep1318> aww
[08:12] <b0rt> any liveDVD comes with gcc?
[08:12] <K`zan> Looks like PS2 is going to work...
[08:12] <b0rt> or a hint/url about creating a liveDVD
[08:13] <Druntar> system just chose to reboot itself and forced a check on /dev/sda3 which I believe is my swap partition before letting me reboot into linux
[08:13] <sep1318> wow.
[08:13] <Maxdamantus> Druntar, you can type "mount" in a terminal to see.
[08:14] <Druntar> says it's already mounted on /
[08:14] <Maxdamantus> That's your root partition.
[08:14] <Druntar> ok
[08:14] <Druntar> well it's been checked now
[08:14] <Druntar> lol
[08:14] <Maxdamantus> It has at least the top level file structure.
[08:15] <Maxdamantus> (bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  nfstest  proc  sbin         share  storage  test  usr  vmlinuz boot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    opt      root  screenshots  srv    sys      tmp   var  win32)
[08:15] <Maxdamantus> Brb.
[08:15] <Druntar> I just wanted to change to a lighter more effiecient OS that I could tweak to look the way I wanted :*(
[08:16] <Druntar> ok, I've given up on the mouse issue I'll just keep going real slow with it.
[08:16] <DaSkreech> lespea: Hi
[08:16] <Druntar> on to beryl
[08:16] <Druntar> who can tell me why beryl made my screen go white?
[08:16] <Druntar> or help me get it up and runnin
[08:16] <Druntar> !beryl
[08:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <jay_> Timidity sounds "shaky" when I'm using guitar pro 5. Is there nething I can do 2 fix that?
[08:17] <sep1318> good call, Druntar. I'm off. good luck with everything.
[08:18] <zerozero> sep1218: thats looked promising but I don't have a file of that name or similar on my machine
[08:18] <zerozero> arg, missed him
[08:19] <K`zan> Do I need some special repository to get just plain mozilla or does that not exist anymore?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Png
[08:20] <don_> I
[08:20] <don_> It is fire fox now
[08:20] <scrubb> Anybody out there?
[08:21] <don_> ya
[08:21] <K`zan> don_: Something is firefox now, but I doubt that it is the same as the mozilla my roomie uses...
[08:21] <scrubb> I have a somewhat esoteric task...
[08:21] <scrubb> I have dual monitors working fine (Nvidia geforce 7900 GS)...
[08:21] <don_> I just got done reading about the upgrade to FireFox
[08:21] <scrubb> One is an analog flat panel, the other is an old trinitron CRT
[08:22] <paco> hi
[08:22] <scrubb> I'd like to set the refresh rate of the CRT to 75Hz because 60 bugs my eyes...
[08:22] <scrubb> But nvidia-settings won't give me the option...only 60Hz.
[08:22] <don_> I just put Fire fox on 7.04 and read that
[08:22] <paco> a question, ive installed ubuntu + beryl and i cant see all the effects but the cube, what can happens???
[08:22] <scrubb> Can I force it through xorg.conf or some other means?
[08:23] <paco> anyone know it ?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> paco: How did you install beryl ?
[08:26] <ubunturos> I have mounted NTFS partition, using Live CD of 7.04, but when I try to access it, it shows permission deined?
[08:27] <ubunturos> where am I going wrong?
[08:27] <lespea> if you mount a partition manually I believe that you can specify your user id to give yourself access like this
[08:27] <lespea> -ouid[insert user id] 
[08:27] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[08:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:28] <ubunturos> lespea: a Live CD wouldn't require it, would it?
[08:28] <Penel> hello hello
[08:28] <lespea> dunno I've only used the live cd once :/
[08:28] <DaSkreech> ubunturos: Note the part about write access above!!
[08:28] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: ok
[08:28] <lespea> oh; i was under the impression that you couldn't even read from it
[08:28] <DaSkreech> ubunturos: See !ntfs-3g
[08:29] <paco> DaSkreech ive followed a guide
[08:29] <paco> Ive XGL+gnome
[08:29] <paco> and all works ok, all the visual effects but the cube
[08:29] <DaSkreech> paco: oh. You may want to ask in #ubuntu-effects then
[08:29] <lespea> I have a mildy retarded ? -- in konversation how do you import the server list? -- it just shows the ubuntu one right now and no others :(
[08:29] <paco> yes? ok
[08:30] <DaSkreech> lespea: Press F2 i think
[08:30] <DaSkreech> or F7
[08:30] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: but it should read the NTFS without me going through the document
[08:31] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: it isn't even reading the partition !
[08:31] <A_A> whats an equiv to blackdown ?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> you can click on add new and there will be more servers... I think
[08:31] <DaSkreech> A_A: Hmm?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> ubunturos: Yes it shoudl read. What is it doing now?
[08:31] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: Permission deined!
[08:31] <lespea> hmmm, yeah Das when I go to add new servers it's just blank o_O
[08:31] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: is all what it says
[08:32] <lespea> can you report what `cat /etc/mtab` is showing ubunturos?
[08:32] <scrubb> can anybody help me with my monitor question?
[08:32] <ubunturos> lespea: yes, one min
[08:32] <lespea> k
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ubunturos: When you try to do a ls?
[08:32] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: yes
[08:33] <DaSkreech> ah
[08:33] <DaSkreech> did you try a sudo ls ?
[08:33] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: no
[08:33] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: ok, sudo ls works, thanks
[08:33] <DaSkreech> ubunturos: try that and let me know if it works
[08:33] <DaSkreech> ubunturos: ok unmount the partition
[08:33] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: sudo ls; works
[08:33] <DaSkreech> mount it the way you did before
[08:34] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: I mounted it using sudo
[08:34] <DaSkreech> and add -o umask=0022 to the end of the line
[08:34] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: ok
[08:34] <Druntar> on on the beryl support forums there is alot of talk about a white screen of death that sounds like what I got
[08:34] <DaSkreech> you should be able to read it as yorself
[08:34] <DaSkreech> yourself
[08:34] <ubunturos> DaSkreech: umm, ok
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Without having to bother with sudo
[08:34] <Druntar> their workaround is to download 0.2.0 instead of the latest package
[08:34] <DaSkreech> I may note that you CANNOT sudo cd
[08:34] <DaSkreech> :)
[08:35] <lespea> hmm; dask that's way better than my typically uid=[my user id]  -- why didn't i think about that before?!?!
[08:35] <Druntar> problem is I don't know how to download a previous version
[08:35] <DaSkreech> Druntar: used to be a black screen of death
[08:35] <DaSkreech> Druntar: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:35] <DaSkreech> I think tis something like apt-get install package=versionnumber
[08:37] <lespea> To select a particular version of the package, append =<version> to the package name: for instance, aptitude install apt=0.3.1.
[08:37] <lespea> (*note I'm a big advocate of aptitude > apt-get)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> lespea: Sure :)
[08:41] <Druntar> one other quick question how do I get the clock to report in 12 hours intead of 24?
[08:42] <avalon_> I'm having trouble with k3b. Everytime I start it, it tells me no mp3 audio decoder detected. I have libmad0 as it suggests, but it's not detecting. What else do I need to install?
[08:42] <Druntar> I hate converting military time in my head
[08:42] <lespea> druntar: (r)click on the time and then "Date and Time format"
[08:42] <lespea> then goto time and dates
[08:42] <lespea> it's in there
[08:43] <crimsun> avalon_: did you install libk3b2-mp3?
[08:43] <lespea> lol crim you beat me -- guess i shouldn't have typed it all out :P
[08:46] <crimsun> strike like a ninja.
[08:46] <Druntar> ok it says it won't change till I restart the app
[08:46] <avalon_> That did it crimson
[08:46] <avalon_> sun*
[08:46] <avalon_> Thanks
[08:47] <olesja> hi @ all
[08:47] <Druntar>  ok mouse is out again
[08:47] <lespea> Drun you may just have to restart X -- (I'm not sure I've never actually changed that before :O)
[08:53] <insmod> i fixed a problem with laptops not shuting down and posted it -- is there anything else i should do?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> insmod: pokesomeone in #ubuntu-devel
[08:54] <ubuntu> hi
[08:55] <ubuntu> Can someone help me !? i really need help !!!!
[08:55] <lespea> hey
[08:55] <lespea> what's the problem?
[08:55] <insmod> DaSkreech: will do
[08:56] <ubuntu> Heum , i am new to linux , and i dont know how but my windows is fcu**** so now i cant get on it , but thats not my problem , i have 12 gb of music on my HD
[08:56] <ubuntu> How can i make backup of it and then format my HD and install linux^
[08:56] <ubuntu> (ps : sorry for the bad english i<m french )
[08:57] <ubuntu> because im running on the live cd right now
[08:57] <pag> ubuntu, maybe you'd like french channels better?
[08:57] <pag> !fr | ubuntu
[08:57] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:57] <ubuntu> oh thank you!
[08:57] <pag> no problem :)
[08:57] <ubuntu> BUt if anyone can help me here itll be ok...
[08:58] <ubuntu> Im half bilangual XD
[08:59] <ubuntu> so? no ideas?
[08:59] <lespea> well... I have very little experience with the live cd... so I'll just assume that it's layed out like the installed vresion
[09:00] <lespea> next to the "start button" click on the computer icon and then media
[09:00] <pag> you could mount the windows partition, and copy from there. Command is something like: sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mount/windows
[09:00] <jay_> which channel can I go ask about timidity and alsa?
[09:01] <ubuntu> ok once im in media what should i do lespea^
[09:01] <ubuntu> ???
[09:01] <lespea> do you see any icons in there?
[09:02] <ubuntu> nop
[09:02] <lespea> okay, right click on create a folder
[09:02] <lespea> name it whateer
[09:03] <lespea> oh, wait, does your windows partion take up the whole hard drive?
[09:03] <ubuntu> it says access denied to *name of my folder*
[09:03] <ubuntu> hummm
[09:03] <ubuntu> i think so....=(
[09:03] <lespea> do you have another hard drive?
[09:04] <ubuntu> i use to have an external harddrive but i cant find it
[09:04] <lespea> do you at least have a dvd burner?
[09:04] <ubuntu> if i find it would it be usefull?
[09:04] <stealth47> hello there.. help me plz.. can i ask how & where can i install java runtime invironment? tnx..
[09:04] <ubuntu> ya
[09:04] <ubuntu> i do
[09:04] <ubuntu> and i have DVDS
[09:04] <lespea> okay, well I've never burned in the live cd but it should work
[09:05] <lespea> click "start" and then multimedia and then k3b
[09:05] <lespea> lets make sure it starts up first
[09:05] <lespea> stealth: 1 sec
[09:05] <pag> stealth47, iirc the package is called sun-java6-jre
[09:05] <lespea> tnx pag
[09:05] <ubuntu> k3b is working
[09:05] <lespea> okay good
[09:05] <stealth47> tnx pag.
[09:05] <lespea> go back to the media folder and press F4
[09:06] <pag> stealth47, you welcome :)
[09:06] <lespea> then type sudo mkdir win
[09:06] <ubuntu> ok , i have a kind of cmd windows
[09:06] <lespea> yup
[09:06] <ubuntu> ok
[09:06] <ubuntu> ive typed it
[09:06] <lespea> okay, do you know if you have a serial ata hard drive or ?
[09:06] <ubuntu> sata
[09:06] <pag> lespea, feisty thinks all of them are sata ;)
[09:07] <lespea> oh ... lol thanks
[09:07] <ubuntu> xD
[09:07] <lespea> try typing sudo mount -tntfs /dev/sda1 win
[09:08] <stealth47> hey.. i've already download the sun-java6-jre but its rpm file, how can i change it to .deb? cause i used Ubuntu 6.10 tnx.. any suggestions would be appreciated.
[09:08] <Maxdamantus> -tntfs?
[09:08] <pag> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 win  (rebember the space :)
[09:08] <Maxdamantus> Put a space between the t and ntfs
[09:08] <ubuntu> <<wrong fs type , bad option , bad superbloc ect... >>
[09:08] <lespea> try /dev/sda2
[09:08] <ubuntu> oh wait i<ll retype it
[09:08] <lespea> actuall ywait
[09:08] <ubuntu> oh
[09:08] <ubuntu> ?
[09:08] <lespea> go `sudo fdisk /dev/sda`
[09:08] <ayandef> If I want to send mail from my website is it enough with postfix or do i need sendmail installed instead?`
[09:08] <lespea> then hit p
[09:09] <Maxdamantus> I like "sudo su root"
[09:09] <pag> stealth47, do you have Universe (and Multiverse?) reposities enabled?
[09:09] <Maxdamantus> Means I don't have to prefix everything with sudo.
[09:09] <Maxdamantus> Or just su root in my case, since I set a pass on root.
[09:09] <lespea> yeah... but then eventually you'll do something as root that you'll regret ;)
[09:09] <Maxdamantus> Like what?
[09:09] <ubuntu> << the number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19457 theres is nothing wront with taht , but this is larger tahn >>
[09:09] <ubuntu> now i go 2 choices
[09:10] <lespea> rm -rf / home/user/dir
[09:10] <Maxdamantus> I always have about 1 root terminal and 5 non-roots (at least)
[09:10] <ubuntu> oh , no choices sorry
[09:10] <ubuntu> kk
[09:10] <lespea> hmm
[09:10] <lespea> NO
[09:10] <ubuntu> what^
[09:10] <ubuntu> ?
[09:10] <lespea> don't type that in i was talking to max
[09:10] <pag> ubuntu, no, don't do that rm...
[09:10] <lespea> lol
[09:10] <Maxdamantus> Don't do the rm thing.
[09:10] <ubuntu> oh...
[09:10] <ubuntu> 2 late
[09:10] <lespea> SORRY
[09:10] <ubuntu> XD
[09:10] <lespea> :p
[09:10] <ubuntu> np
[09:10] <ubuntu> :p
[09:10] <ubuntu> haha
[09:10] <ubuntu> XD
[09:11] <Maxdamantus> Did it delete anything?
[09:11] <lespea> he's using the live cd anyways...
[09:11] <Maxdamantus> home shouldn't exist in the directory he's in anyway.
[09:11] <Maxdamantus> Unless you're in /
[09:11] <ubuntu> so what should i do now masterrr <3 =(
[09:11] <Maxdamantus> And only root can remove /
[09:11] <stealth47> tnx pag. more power..
[09:11] <Maxdamantus> I wouldn't try rm -rf / though.
[09:11] <lespea> heh
[09:12] <lespea> so anyways, type q then enter to leave fdisk
[09:12] <ubuntu> mi?
[09:12] <Maxdamantus> :S This iso is being weird.
[09:12] <lespea> yup
[09:12] <Maxdamantus> I'll extract everything and make it again.
[09:12] <pag> stealth47, if you have them enabled you should be able to install java by doing: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[09:12] <ubuntu> ok , done
[09:13] <lespea> what kind of problems are you having with windows?
[09:13] <lespea> out of curiosity
[09:13] <ubuntu> like , 5 min ago , ive tried to install linux but like 5 sec after ive remember that i should back up my music
[09:14] <ubuntu> so i cancelled the install and when i go back to windows it says << bad OS ex... >>
[09:14] <DaSkreech> !java
[09:14] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:14] <ubuntu> and now im kinda sad cuz i dont want to loose all ma music
[09:14] <ubuntu> D=
[09:14] <stealth47> tnx gap.. it works..
[09:14] <lespea> how far into the install did you get?
[09:15] <ubuntu> ....1%?
[09:15] <ubuntu> but it was formating my HD before i think
[09:15] <ubuntu> but it was still 1%
[09:15] <ubuntu> XD
[09:15] <lespea> hmm
[09:15] <lespea> yeah...
[09:15] <DaSkreech> pag: That should break some stuff
[09:15] <lespea> well your partition table is probably gone for good
[09:16] <lespea> you can %try% to fix it...
[09:16] <ubuntu> ...=(
[09:16] <lespea> do you have your windows disk?
[09:16] <ubuntu> no not right now...
[09:16] <don_> make it a slave and read from another drive and save your music
[09:16] <ubuntu> i have some old back ups of my music in dvds but its only 7-8Go im at like 12 - 13 now
[09:17] <pag> DaSkreech, pardon? what should break?
[09:17] <lespea> well, if you do get it, you can go into a "repair console" during the initial part of the installer where you can type `fixmbr` and `fixboot` to *maybe* fix it
[09:17] <LinkCanabico>  don_ second that
[09:17] <DaSkreech> pag: Feisty thinking everything is SATA
[09:17] <ubuntu> mmm
[09:17] <ubuntu> ...
[09:17] <ubuntu> think....ill ... just...
[09:17] <lespea> he'll need recovery software if his partition tables are gone
[09:17] <lespea> plus, he doesn't have another hard drive :(
[09:18] <ubuntu> install linux and re-dl my 5 go of music...
[09:18] <don_> thats what i always do in a mess
[09:18] <ubuntu> =/
[09:18] <LinkCanabico> ubuntu use a live cd to check if the info is still there
[09:18] <ubuntu> im on the live cd...
[09:18] <don_> get windows to fixboot
[09:18] <ubuntu> i dont have it right now
[09:18] <don_> at command promt
[09:19] <ubuntu> thank u very much evry1 but i think ill just format all the shiznit and re-dl 4 go of music...
[09:19] <ubuntu> =(
[09:19] <ubuntu> BUt hey ! thx evry 1 you rock =D
[09:19] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Is it NTFS ?
[09:19] <ubuntu> duhhh
[09:19] <ubuntu> i think
[09:19] <lespea> np... good luck?
[09:19] <ubuntu> LOL
[09:19] <ubuntu> ya :p
[09:19] <ubuntu> for sure
[09:19] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-P
[09:19] <ubuntu> XD
[09:19] <DaSkreech> !search recovery
[09:19] <ubotu> Found: password, recovery, recovery cd
[09:20] <lespea> i format my partitions in fat16.... i'm nastalgic like that :P
[09:20] <ubuntu> XD
[09:20] <ubuntu> :P
[09:20] <ubuntu> wowwww
[09:20] <DaSkreech> There is a tool thing you can apt-get that might be able to recover it
[09:20] <ubuntu> na im 2 lazy..................
[09:21] <lespea> DaSk.... he doesn't have a backup harddrive -->can those burn from cd to dvd/cd or do you need an external source first?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> lespea: Yeah
[09:21] <ubuntu> anyway
[09:21] <lespea> ?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> cna someone do an adept search for recovery
[09:21] <DaSkreech> I'm on Vista. I'm trying to find the name of the software
[09:22] <ubuntu> ill be back later to tell u how my kubuntu install have been ??? =/
[09:22] <ubuntu> LOL! vista =(
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:22] <LinkCanabico> pleas no vista LOL good luck
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Not my choice
[09:22] <lespea> bacula, gddrescue, mondo,
[09:22] <ubuntu> *DO NOT WANT*
[09:22] <ubuntu> ya =(
[09:22] <ubuntu> any linux fan wouldnt install vista...
[09:22] <ubuntu> i guess
[09:22] <ubuntu> LOL
[09:23] <lespea> testdisk
[09:23] <lespea> those are the only relavant ones
[09:23] <don_> Vista did nothing to interest me
[09:23] <ubuntu> it sucks
[09:23] <ubuntu> lol
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Testdisk!!
[09:23] <DaSkreech> that was it
[09:23] <don_> It seemed slow
[09:23] <ubuntu> espcially for gaming , lags evrything because it takes all youre ressource lol
[09:23] <DaSkreech> !info testdisk
[09:23] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[09:23] <DaSkreech> thre we go
[09:24] <ubuntu> so i should download testdisk^
[09:24] <ubuntu> ???
[09:24] <don_> Needs 1 gig ram to run
[09:24] <DaSkreech> apt-get install testdisk
[09:24] <lespea> gddrescue - the GNU data recovery tool
[09:24] <lespea> that one bad?
[09:24] <ubuntu> can i download it even if im on the live cd
[09:24] <ubuntu> ?
[09:24] <lespea> seems more graphically inclined
[09:24] <ubuntu> ( ya and takes 2 gig to run normally lol )
[09:24] <don_> got amother drive?
[09:24] <ubuntu> fuck no =(
[09:25] <don_> another
[09:25] <don_> 2 dvd
[09:25] <ubuntu> yup
[09:25] <don_> oh oh
[09:25] <lespea> i'm installing both of them right now (testdisk and gddrescue)
[09:25] <ubuntu> thx lespea!
[09:25] <pag> ubuntu, yes you can install on livecd, but it eats RAM, so watch for packet size
[09:26] <ubuntu> my gosh u guys r helpfull !
[09:26] <ubuntu> >,<
[09:26] <stealth47> hi, can anyone help me, i've installed Chikka V4 on Ubuntu 6.10 but it doest start? should i need to reinstall it?
[09:26] <lespea> ~2.5 mb unpacked (but i may have had dependencies already installed)
[09:26] <stealth47>  hi, can anyone help me, i've installed Chikka V4 on Ubuntu 6.10 but it doest start? should i need to reinstall it?
[09:26] <ayandef> Does anyone know what I have to have configured in order to send phpmail from my domain?
[09:27] <stealth47>  hi, can anyone help me, i've installed Chikka V4 on Ubuntu 6.10 but it doest start? should i need to reinstall it?
[09:27] <pag> stealth47, try to start it from terminal (konsole), it might give you some error message
[09:27] <stealth47> help me plz
[09:27] <lespea> WOW that testdisk is awesome!
[09:27] <stealth47> ok tnx
[09:27] <lespea> i've found a new friend :D
[09:28] <ubuntu> LOL
[09:28] <ubuntu> so i should intall testdisk ^
[09:28] <ubuntu> ?
[09:28] <pag> ubuntu, yup :)
[09:28] <LinkCanabico> lespea does it work with ntfs?
[09:28] <ubuntu> kthx ill do it right now!
[09:28] <lespea> well, I don't know if that's gonna allow him to burn the files to a dvd though (without a place to temp store them)
[09:28] <lespea> yes link
[09:29] <pag> LinkCanabico, atleast it installs libntfs9 as a depency, so yeah, probably it works
[09:29] <LinkCanabico> ok Thanks
[09:30] <leo> how do i set a wallpaper for each side of the cube?
[09:30] <lespea> wtf... gddrescue is installed but it's not in my path?
[09:30] <lespea> lol
[09:30] <stealth47> hey pag.. ur right, it says i've some dll missing or corrupt, it also says i need to reinstalled it? but its the same, i reinstalled it but nothin's change?
[09:30] <jean> hello
[09:31] <jean> i want to change the name of my pc
[09:31] <lespea> hello jean
[09:31] <pag> stealth47, are you running it through wine?
[09:31] <jean> but i cant!
[09:31] <stealth47> yeah
[09:31] <ubuntu> ok everything is extracted
[09:31] <stealth47> i run it through wine
[09:31] <ubuntu> do i run testdisk_win.exe^
[09:31] <ubuntu> ?
[09:31] <lespea> okay, do you still have that console open?
[09:31] <lespea> testdisk_win.exe?
[09:32] <ubuntu> thats one of the file ive extracted in the win file of testdisk
[09:32] <ubuntu> hum no my console is not open wait
[09:32] <ubuntu> now it is
[09:32] <jean> it says "the default gateway ip  adress is invalid"
[09:32] <lespea> wait, how did you install testdisk?
[09:32] <ubuntu> ive download it
[09:33] <lespea> online?
[09:33] <ubuntu> and ive extracted all the file
[09:33] <ubuntu> yeah
[09:33] <lespea> :/
[09:33] <lespea> lol
[09:33] <ubuntu> but its not installed yed
[09:33] <lespea> sorry my bad b4
[09:33] <ubuntu> YET
[09:33] <ubuntu> XD
[09:33] <don_> Where you get it ? I would not mind it
[09:33] <lespea> in the command window try this: `sudo aptitude install testdisk`
[09:33] <PolitikerNEU> does anybody know how I can get metisse running under kubuntu`
[09:33] <pag> stealth47, hmm.. winehq doesn't even find that software.. only thing I can quess, is that you should find those missing .dll's somewhere.
[09:34] <Cnl_Delta> test disk is ok.. didn't save my partition table though
[09:34] <ubuntu> couldnt find anay packade whose name or discripion matched test dicsk blah blah blah
[09:34] <stealth47> ok i'll try.. tnx pag
[09:34] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude update
[09:34] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude install testdisk
[09:34] <jaims> hello
[09:34] <Cnl_Delta> it works from a livecd too
[09:34] <don_> hi
[09:35] <jaims> im trying to upgrade my kubuntu edgy to feisty
[09:35] <lespea> cnl - can you go from testdisk to a cd/dvd w/o another hard drive?
[09:35] <don_> so?
[09:35] <jaims> in adept_manager, the button 'full upgrade' remains disabled
[09:35] <ubuntu> its doesnt work it says it says it doesnt find a file called testdisk
[09:35] <Cnl_Delta> if you got 2 cd drives i think so
[09:35] <ubuntu> ( the file ive downloaded is called testdsk-6.6 )
[09:35] <lespea> okay, that's what we're trying here :/
[09:35] <don_> Get iso
[09:36] <jaims> i think it is because when trying to 'fetch updates' there's a source that fails...
[09:36] <lespea> can you post the url where you got that from?
[09:36] <jaims> http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[09:36] <don_> I got ubuntu upgrade but not Kubuntu ?
[09:36] <ubuntu> http://files4.majorgeeks.com/files/7dfbfb4a386b98740005488c55f5ccbe/drives/testdisk-6.6.win.zip
[09:36] <lespea> jaims: open up konsole (alt+f2 then type it in) and go `sudo apt-get update` to see what's failing
[09:36] <don_> It works on ubuntu
[09:37] <jaims> ok
[09:37] <jaims> lespea: thanx
[09:37] <lespea> yup
[09:37] <jaims> im gonna try
[09:37] <don_> just burn a cd
[09:37] <pag> ubuntu, you don't have universe enabled, that's why you can't install it through aptitude
[09:37] <lespea> oh its in universe?
[09:37] <Cnl_Delta> ahh have ya enabled the repositories in the package manager ?
[09:37] <jaims> wait
[09:37] <ubuntu> universe^
[09:37] <ubuntu> HOW DO I INSTALL THE UNIVERSE =,(
[09:37] <Cnl_Delta> universal and multiversal need to be available
[09:37] <jaims> now the dist upgrade tool seems to work...
[09:38] <don_> good
[09:38] <lespea> first, get a REALLY big hard drive :p
[09:39] <ubuntu> loll
[09:39] <lespea> ubuntu: type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:39] <don_> I need to get a list of all thes commands and what they do
[09:39] <Cnl_Delta> 5 Gigs is plenty for basic ubuntu
[09:39] <Cnl_Delta> until you add on media playback
[09:39] <pag> ubuntu, you don't havee to install *universe*. Universe is just a place, from where you can install packages (so called reposity)
[09:39] <DaSkreech> !universe
[09:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:40] <DaSkreech> install the universe that's pretty good
[09:40] <lespea> every line that starts with #dep -- delete the #
[09:40] <ubuntu> << kio (ksycoca) : error : no database available KCrash : aplication kaate crashing >
[09:40] <ubuntu> pag : kthx xD
[09:40] <lespea> hmm
[09:40] <lespea> try
[09:40] <lespea> ubuntu: type sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:41] <lespea> otherwise you get to learn how to edit in the command shell :D
[09:41] <ubuntu> same error
[09:41] <pag> lespea, I think there's also a graphical way :)
[09:41] <lespea> is there? :p
[09:41] <LinkCanabico> ubuntu use vi
[09:41] <lespea> it's <i>usually</i> faster my way ;)
[09:42] <pag> lespea, iirc there's option in adept
[09:42] <ubuntu> *BRB IN 30 SEC JUST GOTTA GO WUT TIME IT IS *
[09:42] <lespea> hmm hold on... i'll check
[09:42] <ubuntu> re
[09:42] <ubuntu> 4 am here rofl
[09:43] <ubuntu> fuck im tireddd
[09:43] <pag> lespea, in adept: adept -> manage repositories
[09:43] <DaSkreech> !language
[09:43] <ubuntu> think ill just install kubuntu and re-download a pard of my music guys
[09:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:43] <ubuntu> XD
[09:43] <jaims> nah
[09:43] <jaims> it gets stuck
[09:43] <jaims> 'distribution upgrade tool'
[09:43] <jaims> downloading file 33 of 45, 99%
[09:43] <ubuntu> Anyway
[09:43] <ubuntu> thank you evryone!
[09:44] <LinkCanabico> ubuntu gl
[09:44] <ubuntu> Have a good night [[
[09:44] <ubuntu> =D
[09:44] <don_> you to
[09:44] <lespea> :( yup
[09:44] <LinkCanabico> you to
[09:44] <lespea> good luck
[09:44] <ubuntu> thx for all the help
[09:44] <ubuntu> yeah!
[09:44] <ubuntu> ill be back tomorrow to tell you my story
[09:44] <don_> ok
[09:44] <pag> jaims, disable 3rd party repo's
[09:44] <ubuntu> my name will be : ar53n ( email ar53n@gamerarmy.com ) ciao!
[09:44] <lespea> heh okay
[09:44] <lespea> later
[09:45] <lespea> which file is it failing on?
[09:47] <jaims> and even worse, /var/lib/apt/lists/lock cant be blocked when i try to sudo apt-get update...
[09:48] <jaims> :-(
[09:48] <lespea> oh, do you have the update mangaer open?
[09:48] <jaims> i exited
[09:48] <lespea> is anything else open?
[09:48] <jaims> nope!
[09:48] <Cugel> Okay, I have a question. Is there a (simple) image viewer/editor that has a red eye removal tool? Picasa has it but I like something simpler. Krita and the gimp don't have one.
[09:48] <lespea> :/
[09:48] <biovore> ps ax | grep apt
[09:48] <jaims> :)
[09:49] <jaims> i cancelled the distro update, thats why
[09:49] <lespea> Cugel - will a tut for gimp to remove red-eye do?
[09:49] <jaims> warned me that it could get non stable
[09:49] <lespea> ah
[09:49] <okapi14> hi to all
[09:49] <Cugel> lespea: I know about that tutorial. In short: no, thanks!
[09:49] <jaims> hi
[09:49] <lespea> lol
[09:50] <biovore> if apt is lock.. you could remove the apt lock file :-P
[09:50] <lespea> sry, I just normally use gimp
[09:50] <lespea> hey okapi
[09:50] <jaims> apt-index-watch?
[09:50] <Cugel> Maybe a plugin for gwenview or something? It seems krita used to have one but it's gone.
[09:51] <lespea> hmm dunno sry
[09:52] <okapi14> I have this error everytime I use Smb4k" Smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)  smbmnt failed:1" Anyone has idea how to fix this?
[09:53] <leo> anybody? help about beryl...
[09:53] <jaims> bye all
[09:53] <biovore> running nvidia graphics leo?
[09:54] <leo> biovore, yep
[09:54] <biovore> you follow the install procedures for everything?
[09:54] <leo> biovore, i've installed beryl and it's working well
[09:54] <biovore> oh ok.. cool
[09:55] <leo> biovore, but i dont know how to set different wallpapers on each side of the cube :(
[09:55] <lespea> bugel: digikam has a utility to reduce red eye (i just tried it)
[09:55] <lespea> *cugel
[09:55] <blekos> does anybody can help on that msg ror: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found
[09:55] <blekos> ?
[09:55] <blekos> what should i install?
[09:56] <lespea> just right click on one of the pics you want to adjust and go edit
[09:56] <lespea> it's under the menu fix
[09:56] <biovore> leo: I don't know if you can do that right now..  I have tried as well here, but had no luck..  If it can do it, it might have to do something with the multidesktop check box in beryl menu
[09:56] <pag> blekos, may I ask, what are you trying to do?
[09:56] <biovore> there is a desktop integration issue there..
[09:56] <K`zan> Trying to run adept and KDEsu will not accept the password, works fine as an su in a terminal - suggestions?  TIA
[09:57] <Cugel> Yeah just tried digikam. Not the simple image viewer I'd like to use but still.
[09:57] <leo> biovore: ok, i'll see if i can find it
[09:57] <lespea> ?
[09:57] <leo> biovore, thanks
[09:57] <lespea> what's too complicated about it?
[09:57] <lespea> lack of icons/pictures?
[09:57] <biovore> K`zan: KDEsu uses your user password (you user has to have sudo permissions as well)
[09:58] <blekos> i'd like to install kbackup, so i do ./configure
[09:58] <blekos> and get the above message...
[09:58] <K`zan> biovore: doesn't work with *any* valid password :-(.
[09:58] <biovore> did you set a root password?
[09:58] <K`zan> Including mine :-(.
[09:58] <K`zan> biovore: yes, doesn't work with that one either
[09:59] <K`zan> "Conversation with su failed"
[09:59] <jaims> hi again
[09:59] <jaims> :)
[09:59] <K`zan> re-install adept?
[09:59] <biovore> well setting a root password sometime breaks things.
[09:59] <K`zan> biovore: Works fine on this box...
[09:59] <K`zan> "sometimes" :-)
[09:59] <biovore> what is it you tring to run as root?
[09:59] <jaims> the thing is that http://es.archive.ubuntu.com can't be reached when sudoing apt-get update
[09:59] <K`zan> biovore: adept off the kde menu.
[10:00] <jaims> i guess there are too much people trying to upgrade their systems
[10:00] <biovore> hmm intressting..
[10:00] <pag> blekos, you need some -dev packages. I don't remember which ones
[10:00] <K`zan> Wonder if kdesu has problems...
[10:00] <biovore> that should work.  I know setting a root password on some of the older version broke printing and sometimes busted kcontrol pannel access
[10:01] <lespea> blekos: try `sudo aptitude install qt4-dev-tools`
[10:01] <biovore> K`zan: in a shell you can su to root
[10:01] <K`zan> biovore: Yes, no problem.
[10:01] <biovore> K`zan: then run visudo and check the sudo permissions
[10:01] <lespea> blekos: and also `sudo aptitude install libqt4-dev` (or combine them if you haven't done it already)
[10:02] <stealth> hello.. where can i find the global settings? cause i want to automatically detect my printer on the network.. help me plz.. tnx
[10:02] <pag> lespea, I doubt it's qt4:  "Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0)"  it should be less that qt4
[10:02] <biovore> have they put qt4.2 in the repos yet..
[10:02] <lespea> oh, lol sorry
[10:02] <lespea> good catch pag
[10:02] <blekos> wow, this 110 mb
[10:02] <K`zan> biovore: just add the user in question to that?  Works fine for the other user.
[10:02] <pag> blekos, maybe libqt3-headers
[10:03] <biovore> K`zan: or user group
[10:03] <blekos> i'm allready downling the qt4
[10:03] <biovore> I think people in admin can sudo
[10:03] <lespea> ctr+c
[10:03] <biovore> add all you administrator users into the admin group
[10:03] <blekos> can i interrupt the download smhow?
[10:03] <lespea> ctr+c
[10:03] <K`zan> biovore: will see what she has, thanks
[10:03] <blekos> and how i remove the downloaded files?
[10:04] <lespea> if you aren't really pressed for space don't worry about it ;)
[10:04] <blekos> i aint really, but I'd like now...
[10:04] <lespea> k... i'll look it up unless somebody knows off the top of their head....
[10:05] <pag> blekos, sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:05] <pag> iirc :-/
[10:05] <blekos> lol
[10:05] <blekos> ok
[10:05] <lespea> i think it's just clean
[10:06] <K`zan> biovore: just added her to the admin group - that doesn't work either.
[10:07] <lespea> clean
[10:07] <lespea>           clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/. When APT is used as a dselect(8) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space.
[10:07] <lespea>        autoclean
[10:07] <lespea>           Like clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. The difference is that it only removes package files that can no longer be downloaded, and are largely useless. This allows a cache to be maintained over a long period without it growing out of control. The configuration option APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packages from being erased if it is set to off.
[10:07] <lespea> sorry for tabs :/
[10:07] <biovore> K`zan:  you have to log off then log back on for the user group settings to kick in
[10:08] <Cnl_Delta> hi, whats the best torrent program for ubuntu
[10:08] <biovore> ktorrent
[10:08] <pag> lespea, ok. I'll try to remember that :)
[10:08] <K`zan> biovore: Did that, rebooting to see if that works.
[10:08] <lespea> yes, don't use azureaus (sp?) it crashes a lot
[10:08] <Cnl_Delta> i'm on ktorrent now..
[10:08] <biovore> reboot probably won't make a difference
[10:09] <ozzi> 
[10:09] <lespea> pag: though, I don't think it's the best idea because then it'll remove Everything... even stuff you may need latre == re-downloading :o
[10:09] <K`zan> biovore: force a reset on everything that way :_
[10:09] <ozzi> hi all
[10:09] <biovore> K`zan: you can give it a try, but your doing a user level thing.. not a kernel level thing..
[10:10] <K`zan> biovore: True, but neither one works :-/.
[10:10] <pag> lespea, that's true, but if somebody asks the command, it's better to give the right one :)
[10:10] <K`zan> biovore: Just going to add her to the file you specified earlier.
[10:10] <biovore> K`zan: well kdesu uses user password (not root)
[10:10] <lespea> agreed; was just sayin
[10:10] <biovore> uses the sudo back end for authentication
[10:10] <blekos> hm now i get the following Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check           your installation!
[10:10] <blekos> but libqt3-mt is installed...
[10:10] <biovore> so if you can't sudo, you can kdesu
[10:11] <lespea> :/
[10:11] <K`zan> biovore: I know, doesn't work with either though, roots or hers.
[10:11] <hyper__ch> hiho, does Ubuntu by default make a cron that updates the slocate db? or is one to be added manually?
[10:11] <biovore> also log in as the user and pop open a shell and type group
[10:11] <lespea> libqt3-mt-dev
[10:11] <lespea> try that?
[10:11] <biovore> do you see admin in the list
[10:11] <lespea> vim /etc/group?
[10:11] <jaims> bye all
[10:12] <lespea> later
[10:12] <pag> blekos, if you're compiling, it's almost always the -dev package.
[10:12] <pag> !compiling | blekos
[10:12] <ubotu> blekos: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:12] <wedontneed> hi how can i understand that my ubuntu sees my nvidia 7300
[10:13] <Cnl_Delta> there needs to an easier way to add repos
[10:13] <biovore> sees you 7300?
[10:13] <lespea> cnl -- one sec
[10:13] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude add-repo would be breat
[10:13] <wedontneed> uses my nvidia card
[10:13] <lespea> oh, like that?
[10:13] <mike01gr> hi
[10:13] <biovore> wedontneed: you mean using the nvidia driver?
[10:13] <lespea> ha
[10:13] <pag> wedontneed, glxinfo | grep -i direct  that check if you have 3d acceleration
[10:14] <wedontneed> yes i mean it
[10:14] <wedontneed> it says this
[10:15] <wedontneed> direct rendering: No
[10:15] <wedontneed> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:15] <pag> wedontneed, it means you don't have drivers installed and/or enabled
[10:15] <lespea> cnl: what about `sudo sed -ibak s/^#deb/deb/g /etc/apt/sources.list`
[10:15] <wedontneed> how can i enable or install
[10:15] <lespea> (i dind't proof that go easy!
[10:16] <wedontneed> my card is geforce go 7300
[10:16] <Cnl_Delta> thats a lot to type in
[10:16] <pag> wedontneed, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[10:16] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude update/install seems intuitive for newbies
[10:16] <lespea> well... copy paste
[10:16] <pag> !nvidia | wedontneed
[10:16] <ubotu> wedontneed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:17] <wedontneed> ty
[10:17] <K`zan> biovore: Works amazingly well when you add them to the right group :).
[10:17] <biovore> hehe  I though that would be the problem..
[10:17] <pag> hmm.. I probably should start to make more use of ubotu. It seems really useful :)
[10:17] <lespea> ubotu?
[10:18] <lespea> oh... <slaps forhead>
[10:18] <biovore> !ubotu
[10:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:18] <Cugel> !ubotu
[10:18] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea why the resolution can't be fixed at 1680x1050 when using nvidia's driver?  i used nvidia-settings to set the res.
[10:18] <lespea> monitor?
[10:18] <lespea> (talking outta ass)
[10:18] <lespea> :p
[10:18] <Cugel> fulat2k: time to edit xorg.conf. You can manually add that resolution.
[10:19] <fulat2k> Cugel: hmm... i believe i see the resolution in xorg.conf.  lemme double check.
[10:19] <fulat2k> Cugel: iirc, nvidia-settings does save the proper resolution in xorg.conf as well.  unless it got fubar-ed
[10:20] <homeytop> hi all - what is the name for the release for 2.6.17-10-386
[10:20] <lespea> okay ? for everybody -- when the install goes all funky and the res. gets stuck at 800x600; is there an easier way to fix it than dpkg-reconfigure
[10:20] <lespea> i look at xorg.conf and i see all the res. in there but I don't get why it won't use them
[10:21] <pag> lespea, look at xorg's logfile. It usually explains why it's using that resolution
[10:22] <lespea> tnx
[10:23] <lespea> (still slow moving from Win to linux sometimes w/thought process)
[10:24] <don_> I found the only way to correct resolution is to rotate different cards then it will adjust
[10:24] <lespea> rotate different cards?
[10:24] <lespea> you mean like physically swapping them?
[10:24] <don_> graphics
[10:25] <don_> ya it sure was easier
[10:25] <wedontneed> i did this :sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common      then what will i do?
[10:25] <pag> wedontneed, look at the link ubotu gave you
[10:25] <wedontneed> k
[10:26] <K`zan> OK, what am I missing here, I try to ssh into the new system and it gets rejected.  The system doing the ssh is in /etc/hosts.allow ?!?  TIA
[10:26] <K`zan> Duhhh, ssh server :)
[10:26] <biovore> K`zan: you have ssh installed
[10:27] <biovore> apt-get install openssh-server
[10:27] <don_> We tried all the other things for resolution and even screwed one copy of kubuntu then i traded cardsaround
[10:27] <lespea> TIA?
[10:27] <K`zan> TIA == Thanks In Advance.
[10:27] <Alarm> |ericsson|, hoi amigos
[10:27] <lespea> ah
[10:27] <K`zan> :-)
[10:28] <lespea> ? lo lwhat's that alarm thing?
[10:28] <irrintxi> hola
[10:29] <lespea> hola, como estas?
[10:29] <binks_> !adept error
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <binks_> !adept
[10:29] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:30] <binks_> ok ok how do unlock adept when its locking
[10:30] <Wesselaar> does anyone know where i can find the libxine extracodecs for kubuntu 6.06?
[10:30] <binks_> !adept-broken
[10:30] <biovore> !universe
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:30] <biovore> libxine-extracodecs I believe is in universe or multiverse
[10:31] <Wesselaar> i have enabled it but adept doesnt find it
[10:31] <lespea> I like sending ppl here (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories) to have them just add all those + keys
[10:31] <biovore> check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <lespea> cancel | allow
[10:31] <Wesselaar> i will look at the link from ubotu, maybe it says something else
[10:33] <|ericsson|> Alarm: hola amigo
[10:34] <sivaji>  how to check my kernel version
[10:34] <biovore> uname -a
[10:34] <pag> uname -r  if you want just the kernel
[10:35] <binks_> ok what is the best kubuntu web browser surely cant be firefox as i find it slow
[10:35] <lespea> ?
[10:35] <lespea> slow?
[10:35] <biovore> konqueror works decent.. has problems on some sites..
[10:35] <K`zan> sshing into the new box, I get "Permission denied, please try again.", what am I missing here (other than it is late and I have been at this all day :-)?
[10:35] <lespea> you could try swiftfox
[10:36] <lespea> edit /etc/ssh.conf and see if you're allowed
[10:36] <binks_> takes an age to open up sometimes and crashes on some sites
[10:36] <lespea> hmm
[10:36] <biovore> K`zan: root is not allowed to login via SSH
[10:36] <biovore> ^ I suggest keeping it that way
[10:36] <binks_> is swiftfox in repos
[10:36] <K`zan> biovore: That's it :-)!
[10:36] <lespea> dunno
[10:36] <lespea> hold on
[10:36] <blekos> ok, that did the trick, now i have another question, can i delete the folder where i had the original files of the program?
[10:36] <lespea> no
[10:37] <lespea> konqueror is going to be the fastest (for the same reasons ie is the fastest in windows)
[10:37] <lespea> maybe your computer needs more ram if firefox is "slow"
[10:37] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ firefox
[10:37] <lespea> how many extensions are you using?
[10:37] <sivaji> (firefox-bin:5587): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[10:37] <binks_> its has 2gb so not the ram
[10:37] <_dennis_> I installed MS word and when I browse to the folder I can lauch and use it with Crossover...but when I rightclick on a textfile and try to open it with MS word i get this message 'KDEInit could not lauch', I also made a shortcut but this gives me an error message 'IOPL' not enabled ??
[10:38] <biovore> firefox is just big..  get use to it..
[10:38] <|ericsson|> binks_: there are way to try and speed up firefox if you're interested
[10:38] <biovore> its cross platform and because of that its got alot of custom stuff.
[10:38] <biovore> ^ Pre load ?
[10:39] <lespea> firefox's language choices are horrible !
[10:39] <lespea> imho
[10:39] <binks_> |ericsson|: yes please
[10:39] <biovore> could get iceweasel :-P
[10:39] <lespea> heh
[10:39] <lespea> dork
[10:39] <lespea> :p
[10:39] <biovore> debian is mad at mozilla people so they change the name of firefox in debian :-P
[10:39] <biovore> to iceweasel
[10:39] <lespea> more like mozilla is mad at debian ppl
[10:40] <lespea> /semantics
[10:40] <biovore> well its the classic MPL vs GPL
[10:40] <|ericsson|> binks_: if you start up your Firefox and type in about:config in the addressbar (where you type url's)
[10:40] <lespea> bickering == stupidty
[10:40] <biovore> rgr
[10:40] <binks_> |ericsson|: ok one that
[10:41] <|ericsson|> binks_: Ok, now if you type in network.http.pipelining.maxrequests where it says "filter", and change this to 8 instead of the default 4
[10:42] <|ericsson|> binks_: the you can do network.http.proxy.pipelining in the same way, change this from "false" to "true"
[10:42] <lespea> i thought he was complaining about startup times / etc
[10:42] <|ericsson|> lespea: I just saw "slow" firefox :)
[10:42] <binks_> |ericsson|: ok done
[10:43] <|ericsson|> binks_: third thing to do is network.http.pipelining, change this to "true"
[10:43] <lespea> man i read into things too much :D
[10:43] <Wesselaar> still cant find the libxineextracodecs with multiverse enabled in kubuntu 6.06
[10:43] <binks_> |ericsson|: yep
[10:44] <|ericsson|> binks_: are you running on ipv6?
[10:44] <binks_> |ericsson|: looks like i should read up on firefox whats ipv6?? you lost me there
[10:44] <lespea> you have to add medibuntu repos for that i think... here's a link [http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php] 
[10:44] <lespea> warning: it's SLOW
[10:45] <luapv> Wesselaar: check out this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-99259e1841e1e1262f4f71e0c72d5a51b3fb69e9
[10:45] <|ericsson|> binks_: heh, now worries if you don't know, try network.dns.disableIPv6 and change it to "true" :)
[10:46] <lespea> does anybody w/a sweat source know when medibuntu is going to get un-owned by the inet traffic?
[10:47] <binks_> |ericsson|:  yep done gonna have to read about it still it one thing being shown how to make it faster but i like to no what im doin
[10:47] <Alarm> |ericsson|, man instead of telling all the options give him a link :)
[10:47] <Alarm> binks_,  if u need a fater firefox , upgrade ur internet line :)
[10:47] <Wesselaar> luapv: i enabled multiverse universe but adept doenst show a libxine-extracodecs, weird...
[10:48] <Daniwan> Ok, I dont know if this is ver Ubuntu related, but I am trying to either get pcsx to run a real playstation cd or to find a way to create a working image from a real psx cd.  Any suggestions?
[10:48] <|ericsson|> binks_: IPv6 is an Internet protocol standard, it has nothing to do with Firefox in particular
[10:48] <binks_> Alarm: i have 10 meg if |ericsson| wants to help let him why is it bothering you
[10:48] <Cnl_Delta> hi which nvidia driver would go with a 7600GS nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[10:48] <tarelerulz> For one I had hard drive upgrading to 7.04 fro kubuntu 6.10
[10:48] <Alarm> do i seem bothered  ? i just said to to get a link with all the configuration of firefox, didnt say something bad
[10:49] <biovore> libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse.. I just checked
[10:49] <|ericsson|> binks_: Try to restart FF now and see if you got it faster..
[10:49] <Alarm> Cnl_Delta,  both will do, some have issues with -new ,  i didnt. try them
[10:49] <biovore> for feisty
[10:49] <Daniwan> K3B Wont copy it "K3B does not copy CD's with multiple data tracks"
[10:49] <binks_> the whole thing about linux for me is learning what can be done not just spent more to achieve
[10:49] <tarelerulz> I can't seem to get berly to work . I have border when I run it. plus I don't see it in my menu I just see it settings
[10:49] <Wesselaar> biovore: im running dapper
[10:49] <johnt> I am having trouble getting k3b to burn a short home filmed mpeg1 to dvd so I can play on tv. D/loaded and installed all the extras that iI know about but still getting error/fail
[10:49] <Alarm> binks_,  sorry for dissapointing u , but what u just said has nothing to do with linux. its firefox related
[10:49] <Cnl_Delta> hmm k
[10:49] <Alarm> it can be done under Ms also
[10:50] <biovore> Wesselaar: oh.. different animal all together
[10:50] <binks_> johnt: add a dummy file to the folder to make it burn more on the disc
[10:50] <|ericsson|> Alarm: did you hear when I said that there is a kernel bug which is causing your problem?
[10:50] <Alarm> yeap
[10:50] <Daniwan> John, it appears to me that K3B is only good for writing MP3 to CD or copying data files to a new CD
[10:50] <Alarm> btw, i dont remember man if u told me to try another removable flash/disk
[10:50] <binks_> Alarm: i meant as a whole not just this conversation
[10:50] <Alarm> i did try a usb stick and worked without any problem at all
[10:50] <biovore> Wesselaar: will probably have to build from source.. no one runs a 3rd party mirror for dapper anymore
[10:50] <Alarm> mounted it automatically
[10:50] <johnt> binks: so give it a heap of crap????
[10:50] <Wesselaar> huh
[10:51] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I don't wheter to laugh or cry :)
[10:51] <Wesselaar> LTS?
[10:51] <biovore> Wesselaar: www.exinehq.de
[10:51] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  my system just loves that /win5 dir :)
[10:51] <Alarm> doesnt want to leave it hehe
[10:51] <binks_> johnt: sort of i have the same prob with flashing firmware onto dvd players
[10:51] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Certainly looks that way ;)
[10:51] <biovore> Wesselaar: well in dapper the extra codecs wern't in the standard repos..
[10:51] <Daniwan> No one has any ideas how I can take this orriginal real PSX cd I have and play it on my Kubuntu?
[10:51] <lespea> no i
[10:52] <Daniwan> The playstation is in the other room, I'd rather stay in here and play  lol
[10:52] <lespea> has anybody ever run into drouble with fuse out of curiosity?
[10:52] <biovore> Wesselaar: I think if all you doing is to get mp3 support working, you can try installing the gstreamer backends
[10:52] <binks_> |ericsson|: that makes it much faster thanks alot
[10:52] <Wesselaar> so i better stick with windows , i guess
[10:52] <biovore> Wesselaar: or upgrade to feisty
[10:52] <|ericsson|> binks_: nice that it worked...
[10:52] <Alarm> Wesselaar, what is it man i wasnt paying attention
[10:52] <tarelerulz> so any one else have beryl run and not put border on app and not let them use the apps
[10:52] <binks_> johnt: a great site for dvd  is www.dvdhelp.com
[10:52] <Wesselaar> thought that (k) ubuntu was easy, so the ubuntu homepage says so...
[10:52] <Daniwan> Windows is much easier but to limited and slow
[10:52] <binks_> sorry www.dvdrhelp.com
[10:53] <biovore> Wesselaar: your using a version from early 2006
[10:53] <Cnl_Delta> stay with windows if ya plan to be outdated
[10:53] <Daniwan> Wesselaar it is
[10:53] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  ubuntu is one of the easiest distros u can get
[10:53] <Daniwan> Pop in the CD and boom you got Kubuntu
[10:53] <Daniwan> use Adept to install stuff
[10:53] <Daniwan> Just dont try to play games or use web cams  lol
[10:53] <johnt> binks: the mpeg is only 90seconds long so two errors are shown   1 cannot transcode the file  2 do not know the file length I will go look at te link thx
[10:53] <tarelerulz> biovore I think I would go to zoph.org for emulators.
[10:53] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  u try to install xine codes but u dont find them in ur repo or what
[10:54] <binks_> johnt: is the file already mpeg2
[10:54] <lespea> http://www.stuff.co.nz/westcoast/4050150a10.html
[10:54] <lespea> wow
[10:54] <lespea> (sorry for unrelated stuff)
[10:54] <johnt> binks: No!! mpeg1
[10:54] <Wesselaar> Alarm: yes
[10:55] <binks_> arr well you need to convert it to mpeg then auth the dvd to play it in a standalone
[10:55] <Wesselaar> kubuntu dapper
[10:55] <Alarm> for dapper ?
[10:55] <Wesselaar> yes
[10:55] <Alarm> ok
[10:55] <Wesselaar> i guess the 3d party is not as LTS as the official mirrors.
[10:55] <johnt> binks: So! How to convert then??
[10:55] <binks_> johnt: look into avidemux and kmediastudio
[10:55] <johnt> binks: So! How to convert then??
[10:55] <biovore> Wesselaar: LTS is really ment for servers
[10:55] <Techno_> Hello. I half did the fiesty upgrade but had to quit. Now KDE logs out every time I try to start linux
[10:56] <sivaji> !pastebin
[10:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:56] <hardwood> hi!
[10:56] <Wesselaar> but it sucks when you installed dapper and cant find stuff to play mp3 and so on
[10:56] <johnt> binks: Sorry wrong keys   OK then I will check them out too
[10:56] <binks_> johnt:one sec ill get you a lnk
[10:56] <Alarm> Wesselaar, and u searched for: libxine-extracodecs ?
[10:56] <Techno_> !kde
[10:56] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[10:56] <Wesselaar> Alarm: yes
[10:56] <hardwood> hi everybody
[10:56] <Daniwan> Wesselaar, go to fiesty
[10:57] <biovore> Wesselaar: there was a method, but its been so long I have forgoten.. I have mp3 and stuff going in dapper, but that was 2 releases ago..
[10:57] <Wesselaar> feisty is just to buggy here
[10:57] <Daniwan> ...
[10:57] <Daniwan> I only found one
[10:57] <Techno_> !adept
[10:57] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:57] <biovore> Wesselaar: what about etchy?
[10:57] <|ericsson|> Is there anyone here who's tried bongo?
[10:57] <Daniwan> You need to patch VMWare
[10:57] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-217592.html
[10:57] <Wesselaar> also bugguy
[10:57] <Daniwan> other then that feisty runs everything dapper and edgy did
[10:57] <biovore> Wesselaar: no linux comes with mp3 support because of licensing issues..
[10:57] <Cnl_Delta> k glxgears is a mess with nvidia-glx-new
[10:57] <Alarm> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[10:57] <Alarm> deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[10:57] <Wesselaar> everyone uses mp3 , what a story....
[10:58] <Alarm> do u have this in ur sources.list file ?
[10:58] <Daniwan> Ok, just use adept and install kaffien
[10:58] <Techno_> brb
[10:58] <Daniwan> problem solved
[10:58] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  ur problem is that u cant play mp3 or video files
[10:58] <biovore> Wesselaar: well its a close propritory format..  technicaly we are suppose to pay royaliests on mp3..
[10:58] <biovore> Wesselaar: but no one dose.. maybe microsoft..
[10:58] <binks_> johnt:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936&highlight=tovid
[10:58] <Daniwan> bio, only if you profit from selling something that uses MP3 encoding
[10:59] <biovore> Daniwan: correct
[10:59] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  as i said that the 2 links in ur sources.list
[10:59] <Daniwan> The royalties are if you sell and profit from a program that encodes or decodes the format from what I understand
[10:59] <johnt> binks: Cool thanks that should give me some help :-))
[10:59] <Alarm> apt-get update
[10:59] <Alarm> and install the xine codecs
[10:59] <Alarm> and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[10:59] <Alarm> and done
[10:59] <Daniwan> So something like Kaffien is a FREE program.. No profit, no royalties and should work on all Ubuntu releases no?
[11:00] <Wesselaar> gstreamer...?
[11:00] <tarelerulz> I use totem with the new gstream plugin .
[11:00] <Wesselaar> ubuntu?
[11:00] <Daniwan> But I still wanna hear what these supposed bugs are in fiesty?
[11:00] <Daniwan> I havn't seen a single one
[11:00] <biovore> Wesselaar: you search the forums for info..
[11:00] <Daniwan> and I do alot of devel stuff
[11:00] <Daniwan> servers, development...
[11:00] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  also install libxine1 maybe its needed , just in case
[11:00] <tarelerulz> I try to opon and mp3 and ubuntu 7.04 said would you like to download the package to play these files
[11:01] <Alarm> and i dont think u will have a problem them
[11:01] <Daniwan> If I can run Apache, PHP, mysql and a slew of other servers flawlessly what are you doing thats buggy?
[11:01] <biovore> Wesselaar: just looking at the mirrors and package databases, I think you have to cheat and use the .nl mirror :-P
[11:01] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19414/
[11:01] <Daniwan> Ubuntu is the base of Kubuntu
[11:01] <Daniwan> none the less it's all based on debian
[11:01] <Alarm> Daniwan,  thats why i finally got to debian :)
[11:01] <biovore> Wesselaar: its not on the US/britian mirrors
[11:02] <Daniwan> I like Kubuntu, it's the easiest
[11:02] <Wesselaar> nl mirror doesnt have the extra codecs for dapper either,
[11:02] <binks_> Wesselaar: have a look at vlc it rocks
[11:02] <Daniwan> I use Gentoo for my servers for different reasons
[11:02] <Alarm> some few bugs that kubuntu has on kde dont exist on debian, and i must say its running a bit faster
[11:02] <Daniwan> But I have like 4 boxes running
[11:02] <tarelerulz> I go to distrowatch all the time and I don't seem debain on top the list.
[11:02] <biovore> Wesselaar: nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[11:02] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  , do u ignore my lines man or what.
[11:02] <Daniwan> 2 running gentoo, 1 running debian and 1 running Kubuntu
[11:02] <Alarm> i pasted allready the mirror for multiverse repo
[11:02] <Wesselaar> i think that kubuntu or ubuntu is just not as easy as the site mentioned
[11:02] <Alarm> i give up
[11:03] <Daniwan> The gentoo servers run great.  The debian server rarely crashes and when it does it's my dumb fault
[11:03] <Wesselaar> me too
[11:03] <Henning3> hi, does anybody know a usb wlan device, that support WPA2 on linux?
[11:03] <Daniwan> The Kubuntu box only bugs out when switching KDE users to much
[11:03] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  i mean i give up as u dont want to listen
[11:03] <Wesselaar> tnx anyway
[11:03] <binks_> tarelerulz: the list is made up mostly of people new to nix so the easy root will always be near the top althou saying that i still use *ubuntu on all my gear
[11:03] <Daniwan> Which is a KDE flaw not in Kubuntu, Ubuntu or Debian
[11:03] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  and kubuntu is easy. i dont think u sat on MS OS and learned and found out the first 1-2 days
[11:03] <Wesselaar> just to much crap to get something working in linux
[11:03] <biovore> Wesselaar: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly  and try using gstreamer backend
[11:03] <Daniwan> Wesselaar not true
[11:04] <Daniwan> lol pop in the live CD and reboot
[11:04] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  even if it is so. if it works, it works forever...
[11:04] <Daniwan> You'll be using Kubuntu in 5 mins
[11:04] <Daniwan> Kubuntu is windows without the limits and bugs
[11:04] <Alarm> like |ericsson|  usb drive
[11:04] <Wesselaar> yep , without any "normal"" multimedia support
[11:04] <binks_> Wesselaar: and vista is a shining example of every thing bad about windows even they admit its pants
[11:04] <Daniwan> The ONLY problem is running games and or webcams
[11:04] <Daniwan> :)
[11:04] <Alarm> Wesselaar,  if u will read what we all wrote u , u will get ur mp3 support, but u dont seem to do what we all tell u
[11:04] <Daniwan> Everything else is just like windows with the exception it works
[11:05] <Alarm> Daniwan,  never had a problem with games under cedega
[11:05] <biovore> Wesselaar: is the same thing with windows.. try getting media play or winamp to play flac's
[11:05] <spawn57> does fiesty's kernel allow for ACLs on NFSv3 and NFSv4
[11:05] <Daniwan> cedega??
[11:05] <Daniwan> Sega EMU?
[11:05] <Alarm> nop. linux game emulatero
[11:05] <lespea> zsnes
[11:05] <Daniwan> hmm
[11:05] <Alarm> games supported: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[11:05] <Daniwan> Well right now I wanna play my old FF7 games
[11:05] <lespea> oh oops sorry
[11:06] <binks_> epsxe rocks
[11:06] <Daniwan> Thats my problem is I cant seem to get pcsx to run the freakin CD
[11:06] <Daniwan> It wants a image on HDD
[11:06] <Alarm> FF7 whats that
[11:06] <binks_> so creat an iso
[11:06] <Daniwan> Final Fantasy 7
[11:06] <Daniwan> Only the best freakin game ever!
[11:06] <Alarm> psx emulator ?
[11:06] <Daniwan> yeah
[11:06] <Daniwan> Got it
[11:06] <Daniwan> pcsx
[11:06] <Daniwan> It's working fine
[11:06] <lespea> ff6 > ff7 :P
[11:06] <jd823592> Hello all, I am trying to run UT2004 Linux Demo but i got stucked just after downloading the .gz file ... Always i try open or extract some archive files an error occures
[11:06] <Alarm> hm.. i dont know, but if u dont find anything on linux, why not trying through wine ?
[11:06] <Daniwan> FF6 was jap only no?
[11:06] <lespea> no
[11:07] <lespea> ff6 was american ff3
[11:07] <Daniwan> hmm
[11:07] <lespea> (for super nintendo)
[11:07] <Daniwan> I've played 1, 5, 7, 8, 9, X, X2, 12
[11:07] <Daniwan> 2 I never found
[11:07] <jd823592> what can cause these ERRORS please?
[11:07] <lespea> jd823592 ... go to the directory where the file is located
[11:07] <Daniwan> 3 was jap only
[11:07] <lespea> press f4
[11:07] <lespea> yes
[11:07] <binks_> latter all diy time have fun ps Alarm dont fall out with me we all do things differently thats the beauty of life :)
[11:07] <Daniwan> 4 I dont think I found
[11:08] <Daniwan> 5 was the one with the chick and the magitek
[11:08] <jd823592> OK
[11:08] <lespea> that's 6
[11:08] <lespea> terra
[11:08] <|ericsson|> Alarm: :))
[11:08] <Alarm> :)
[11:08] <Daniwan> Yeah
[11:08] <lespea> that's 6
[11:08] <Daniwan> Thats 5 I got it here
[11:08] <Daniwan> :)
[11:08] <lespea> umm
[11:08] <jd823592> And what then?
[11:08] <lespea> well then we're thinign of different games
[11:08] <Daniwan> Nah Terra was the main char
[11:08] <lespea> jd type : `tar xvzf [file name] `
[11:08] <Daniwan> With King Edgar
[11:08] <Alarm> Daniwan,  i really enver tried ps emulator , but whats this about: http://www.epsxe.com/ , u tried it
[11:08] <Daniwan> and Kefka
[11:08] <shinobi> does anyone have any information on using a SQL database (for example PostreSQL) as a backend to kontact/kaddressbook
[11:08] <lespea> yeah i will bet you a thousand dollars that that's six
[11:09] <Daniwan> epsxe doesn't install from adept
[11:09] <lespea> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_6
[11:09] <Daniwan> I'm not that great at patching things in myself
[11:09] <Alarm> Daniwan,  so what ? install it from source
[11:09] <lespea> jd any luck?
[11:09] <Daniwan> It's a Playstation game not a PC game
[11:09] <Daniwan> I have the orriginal CD's here
[11:09] <Daniwan> Thats my problem
[11:10] <jd823592> not finished yet
[11:10] <Daniwan> the Emulator I have only has plugins to play images
[11:10] <lespea> k
[11:10] <lespea> are you still taling to me or to whom?
[11:10] <lespea> lol
[11:10] <Daniwan> And K3B wont create an image cause "K3B Does not copy CD's with multiple data tracks"
[11:10] <lespea> i'm confused!
[11:10] <jd823592> should there be these brackets? "[] "
[11:10] <tarelerulz> I think you could rip the game and make an iso of it.
[11:10] <binks_> Daniwan: there is a great tut n how to get epxse working on the forums
[11:10] <tarelerulz> the psx iso are about 650 something small like that
[11:10] <lespea> no... insert the .gz file where that is
[11:10] <lespea> sorry for the confusion
[11:10] <jd823592> ok
[11:11] <jd823592> np ...
[11:11] <Daniwan> I'd perfer if someone just knew a plugin for pcsx that played from cdr
[11:11] <Daniwan> Or a program that could make the image
[11:11] <Daniwan> K3B can not :(
[11:11] <Daniwan> les then what was 5?
[11:11] <lespea> dd?
[11:11] <lespea> 5 was a jap-only game
[11:11] <Daniwan> hmm
[11:12] <lespea> but i hear it is the second-or-third best
[11:12] <lespea> (of all of them)
[11:12] <Daniwan> Ok, then I've played 1, 5, 7-12
[11:12] <lespea> lol didn't you play te one w/terra?
[11:12] <Daniwan> Yeah
[11:12] <jd823592> tar: UT20004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:12] <jd823592> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:12] <jd823592> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:12] <jd823592> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:12] <Daniwan> I thaught that was 5
[11:12] <lespea> that's 6!
[11:12] <Daniwan> Yeah well that one
[11:12] <Daniwan> I played it, I loved it
[11:12] <lespea> :D yeah
[11:12] <Daniwan> I consider it #2 though
[11:13] <lespea> jd ... just start typing the file name and press tab so it completes it for you
[11:13] <lespea> this way we know it wasn't a semantic error
[11:13] <lespea> if that doesn't work type ls -l [file name]  and paste the results
[11:13] <Daniwan> I think it was from best to worst... (7, 6, X, 9, 12, 8, X2)
[11:13] <lespea> okay, i'll take #2
[11:13] <lespea> X --> playable movie (but i still liked it)
[11:13] <Daniwan> But 6 & 7 where both the bomb diggity  lol
[11:13] <shinobi> so what is the best ps or ps2 emulator (is there such a thing?)
[11:14] <Daniwan> I really hated 8 till I saw X2
[11:14] <Daniwan> X2 is super stupid
[11:14] <Daniwan> Lets change clothes yay!
[11:14] <lespea> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Playstation_1_Emulator_.28pSX.29
[11:14] <Daniwan> lol anyway this is getting to far off topic, dont wanna tick people off
[11:14] <lespea> i never played x2
[11:14] <_4strO> http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/_detail/news/affiche_conf_ubuntu_a6_net.png?id=index&cache=cache
[11:14] <Daniwan> Dont it's stupid
[11:14] <lespea> k
[11:14] <jd823592> lespea: unfortunatelly it behaves as if it was in dif. dir. cause TAB doesnt work
[11:15] <Daniwan> Your Yuna, and the other 2 chicks.... They change clothes to build stats
[11:15] <lespea> are yo uin the right directory?
[11:15] <lespea> type ls and make sure it's there
[11:15] <Jok3rs> Rofl
[11:15] <Jok3rs> cant stop me
[11:15] <Daniwan> even my gf said it was too girly to be called a FF game
[11:15] <lespea> ?
[11:15] <lespea> haha that sucks
[11:16] <jd823592> in Konqueror yes and there I press F4 ... then in console i tried "tar...." it didnt work so i tried "cd /home/ubuntu" but nothing happened
[11:16] <Jok3rs> cant stop me
[11:16] <lespea> just type cd
[11:16] <lespea> that will bring you home
[11:16] <jd823592> ok
[11:16] <lespea> then type `ls` and make sure you see the file there
[11:17] <lespea> (or cd to the directory it's in)
[11:17] <lespea> also helpfull tip: `cd -` brings you back to the last directory you were in
[11:17] <jd823592> i do see it
[11:18] <jd823592> cd - works as cd ..?
[11:18] <lespea> okay, files are case sensitive so make sure you are typing the case right
[11:18] <lespea> yes `cd ..` goes up 1 directory
[11:18] <blekos> i'd like to install libdar but is not available in the repos any suggestions?
[11:18] <Daniwan> les for installing from that last link you sent... "Cant find ia32-libs"
[11:18] <Jok3rs> cant stop me
[11:18] <Daniwan> :-\
[11:18] <Daniwan> I copied and pasted the commands for the AMD64 install  (As thats my chipset)
[11:19] <lespea> hmm :/ dunno i've never used it before (i just have the guide in my favs and remember seing it htere)
[11:19] <lespea> are you using the 64 bit edition of linux?
[11:19] <jd823592> wow .. a different errors :)
[11:19] <Daniwan> Yeah
[11:19] <lespea> woo!
[11:19] <lespea> oh
[11:19] <FrankX> cd ~    should take you HOME
[11:19] <lespea> then i dunno lol
[11:19] <jd823592> tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[11:19] <jd823592> tar: Skipping to next header
[11:19] <jd823592> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[11:19] <jd823592> tar: Child returned status 1
[11:19] <jd823592> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:19] <Daniwan> Kubuntu for AMD64
[11:19] <jd823592> seems as if it was corrupted
[11:19] <lespea> try `file [file name] `
[11:19] <lespea> and yes, it's probably corrupt
[11:19] <Daniwan> It runs 32 and 64 bit at the same time it's freakin sweet
[11:19] <lespea> is there an md5 hash where you downloaded it?
[11:19] <Daniwan> Gotta love this cpu
[11:20] <lespea> heh yeah
[11:20] <jd823592> tar: file: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:20] <jd823592> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:20] <jd823592> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:20] <jd823592> tar: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: Not found in archive
[11:20] <jd823592> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:20] <lespea> FrankX: yes ~ is a shortcut for home, but if you omit it then its the same
[11:20] <Daniwan> I HIGHLY recomend getting an AMD Sempron if your not to familiar with linux.  So you dont screw yourself out of anything
[11:20] <lespea> yeah there's an error there
[11:20] <lespea> hold on
[11:21] <Daniwan> You can use all the high powered 64bit apps AND you can run any legacy 32bit's you might need if theres no 64bit avail
[11:21] <Daniwan> The Sempron processor had both instruction sets built in
[11:21] <lespea> wget http://data.unrealtournament.com/UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[11:21] <jd823592> lespea: btw.: can you recommend me some docs to learn how to use terminal from
[11:21] <lespea> type that to download it in the console
[11:22] <Daniwan> les, is that one for me?
[11:22] <lespea> sure!
[11:22] <jd823592> ok
[11:22] <lespea> no dani for jd
[11:22] <lespea> http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8478
[11:22] <lespea> best guide ever!
[11:22] <Daniwan> I think maybe I'll just go pop the CD in the PS2
[11:22] <Daniwan> lol
[11:23] <jd823592> THANK YOU ... now i am downloading
[11:23] <lespea> dani try this "lsb-qt4-ia32"
[11:23] <lespea> no idea if that's it or not :/
[11:24] <lespea> aptitude search ia32 --> there's a couple of them in there to try :)
[11:24] <lespea> np jd
[11:24] <lespea> anyways -- i'm fricken tired as hell so i'm gonna goto bed (4:30 here!)
[11:24] <lespea> gl everybody
[11:24] <lespea> tul
[11:24] <lespea> ttul
[11:25] <Daniwan> Oh well, as always it was fun chatting here.  Ubuntu community rocks!!  See ya later I'm off to play some final fantasy
[11:39] <blekos> i'm trying to find a complete system tool with gui...so far no luck, bacula seems to complicated to install, so is there any good tutorial for having backup with tar?
[11:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> does using a dynamic CPU frequency ever slow down your computer?
[11:54] <frojnd> hm that's strange I compile kernel and I still got 2.6.20-15-generic
[11:59] <Sandeepc> is anyone NOT sleeping around here to help me out please?
[12:00] <pag> !ask | Sandeepc
[12:00] <ubotu> Sandeepc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:00] <Sandeepc> got it
[12:00] <kraut> moin
[12:00] <Sandeepc> help with nvidia, !!nvidia gives instructions for ubuntu, i need help with kubuntu
[12:01] <Cnl_Delta> hi, how do i remove xine? it seems to have unbalanced my soundchip (Realtek 52xx)
[12:01] <pag> Sandeepc, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[12:02] <Sandeepc> pag: how do i know my nvidia card is not of the 'nvidia-new' type?
[12:02] <pag> they added one more?!
[12:03] <Sandeepc> pag: oh am not sure
[12:03] <pag> Sandeepc, what card do you have?
[12:03] <Sandeepc> pag: yes they did, glx, new, and legacy
[12:03] <Cnl_Delta> i think new is for the 8x series
[12:03] <Sandeepc> pag: 7600gs
[12:03] <pag> Sandeepc, you should do well wiht -glx
[12:03] <Sandeepc> Cnl_Delta: hmm, thanks i guess so
[12:04] <Sandeepc> pag: ok i'll go ahead with that then, thanks
[12:04] <Sandeepc> pag: btw, kernel common is already installed
[12:04] <Sandeepc> another thing, do i need to do the source-o-matic thingy for feisty too?
[12:04] <pag> Sandeepc, yeah
[12:04] <Sandeepc> coz i guess it has most commonly required repos, no?
[12:05] <pag> Sandeepc, did you do a clean install?
[12:05] <Sandeepc> payes
[12:05] <Sandeepc> pag: yes
[12:05] <_dennis_> when I point over an icon with my mouse a small window pops up, how can I turn it of
[12:05] <jd823592> lespea: are you still there?
[12:05] <_dennis_> *lauch icon
[12:05] <_dennis_> launch
[12:06] <pag> Sandeepc, then you probably should.. afaik it add couple of useful repos
[12:06] <Sandeepc> pag: ok
[12:06] <Sandeepc> pag: what do i need to do once i have downloaded the driver?
[12:06] <pag> Sandeepc, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:07] <Sandeepc> pag: anything else?
[12:07] <pag> although I've noticed it messes up the system by default
[12:07] <Sandeepc> pag: ??
[12:07] <Sandeepc> pag: messes up?
[12:07] <pag> sou you probably want to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -philg xserver-xorg
[12:08] <pag> Sandeepc, not sure... it done so for me
[12:08] <Sandeepc> pag: ok thank you, i will enable the 'thing' once its done downloading the driver
[12:08] <pag> Sandeepc, sorry: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:09] <Sandeepc> pag: what is that for?, reconfiguring the X incase i screw it up?
[12:09] <pag> Sandeepc, yep :)
[12:09] <Sandeepc> pag: cool, is that '-phigh0 important?
[12:10] <Sandeepc> '-phigh0*
[12:10] <Sandeepc> '-phigh'*
[12:10] <pag> Sandeepc, it make things automatic :) otherwise you may have to answer lots of quit hard questions
[12:10] <pag> this way you have to answer only about resolution and driver iirc
[12:11] <Sandeepc> pag: oh ok, i'll remember that, thanks for helping me out, i'll get back to you if you dont mind, later on
[12:12] <pag> Sandeepc, IF X doesn't launch, you should install irssi (textbased irc-client) it'll make asking for help much easier ;)
[12:13] <_dennis_> how can i disable the tooltip on the launch icons, I already deselected 'enable tooltip' and 'disabled tooltip effect' in the appearance < style settings??
[12:13] <blekos> i have manually installed a program, how can i remove it?
[12:14] <alexicon> hello people, i need help with fsck
[12:14] <alexicon> my computer keeps failing the fsck, has been for like 4 months. finally have time to try and do something about it
[12:14] <pag> blekos, go to directory where you had perforemd ./configure etc. and type sudo make uninstall
[12:14] <alexicon> fsck dies with exit status 8
[12:15] <alexicon> i cant tell where its failing tho. says something about an unresolved uuid
[12:15] <[Flux] > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376257&highlight=fsck+exit+status+8
[12:15] <[Flux] > alexicon
[12:15] <alexicon> cheers
[12:15] <[Flux] > go to that page
[12:15] <Sandeepc> pag: ok i'll remember that too, although it'll take some time for me to get used to the cmd line IRC client, thanks
[12:16] <jd823592> Hi all, does anybody know how to extract content of GZ archive by Konsole? what parameters have to be set
[12:16] <[Flux] > tar xvf
[12:16] <[Flux] > then the file name
[12:16] <jd823592> ok
[12:16] <jd823592> thx
[12:16] <[Flux] > i think thats right
[12:16] <[Flux] > im very tired right now lol
[12:16] <blekos> pag i get a msg No rule to make target `uninstall'
[12:17] <[Flux] > blekos what are you trying to do?
[12:17] <eske> !mount
[12:17] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:17] <jd823592> xvf doesnt work
[12:17] <[Flux] > try tar -xvf
[12:17] <blekos> uninstall kbackup
[12:17] <jd823592> to me it seems it still expact *.tar file
[12:17] <pag> blekos, that means that programm doesn't have that option. you might like to read readme-file it might have some suggestions
[12:17] <blekos> i c
[12:18] <blekos> isnt there any program to "monitor" files during installion?
[12:18] <[Flux] > what program is it blekos?
[12:18] <blekos> flux it's kbackup
[12:18] <jd823592> Flux: it seems it made a difference but it still doesn't work
[12:19] <eske> if i want to upgrade my system, do i have to write apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:19] <[Flux] > http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/42444-how-open-tar-bz2-tar-gz-file.html
[12:19] <jd823592> thx
[12:20] <Linux_Galore>  71.8% of users mainly use KDE (factoid from 2007 opensuse user survey)
[12:20] <[Flux] > blekos try sudo apt-get remove kdbackup
[12:20] <[Flux] > if you havent' already
[12:20] <jd823592> FLUX is it possible that the problem is that it isnt TAR.GZ but RUN.GZ?
[12:21] <[Flux] > yeah that could be
[12:21] <[Flux] > one second
[12:21] <[Flux] > try gunzip filename
[12:21] <[Flux] > filename being the run.gz file
[12:21] <jd823592> ok i will try
[12:21] <jd823592> THX
[12:21] <[Flux] > ok
[12:22] <harzi> hm, i just installed mythtv to kubuntu and it seams to work for video, audio and so on, but not TV... I canot watch live-tv nor already recorded tv (from previous debian-etch installation). calling mythfrontend with verbose loging, i see that it cannot connect to the mysql-database
[12:22] <harzi> trying again myth-video, it *can* connect...
[12:23] <jd823592> i have lunch now but i would appreciate if i could ask you few more quest. when i am back
[12:23] <[Flux] > i might be here jd823592
[12:23] <[Flux] > im getting sleepy lol
[12:23] <[Flux] > but others are here to help lol
[12:23] <blekos> i tried it with aptitude but no lack
[12:23] <blekos> what i did is to search for kbackup and manually remove the files...
[12:24] <[Flux] > try sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:24] <alexicon> [Flux] : i dont get this... it doesnt actually suggest how to fix the problem cept for this kernel patch.. so is there nothing actually wrong with my disks, this is just a ubuntu problem?
[12:24] <[Flux] > if you remove its dependencies first
[12:24] <[Flux] > alexicon no clue, fsck isnt something i mess with lol
[12:25] <alexicon> if i install this patched kernel is it going to ruin my nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules etc?
[12:25] <[Flux] > never messed with custom kernels either, so i really don't know
[12:25] <[Flux] > im a bit of a linux newbie myself
[12:26] <[Flux] > alexicon, what is your kernel version?
[12:26] <[Flux] > default kubuntu?
[12:26] <alexicon> 2.6.17-11-generic
[12:26] <alexicon> yeah
[12:27] <[Flux] > in console type fsck -l
[12:27] <alexicon> i remember all the hassle of setting up beryl and nvidia stuff, how it all balanced together, seems upgrading the kernel would destroy all those dependencies
[12:27] <[Flux] > fdisk -l
[12:27] <alexicon> oh
[12:27] <[Flux] > yeah making sure i typed that right
[12:27] <alexicon> ok
[12:28] <[Flux] > did it say anything?
[12:28] <alexicon> yeah shows me all my partitions
[12:28] <alexicon> all 11 of them
[12:28] <[Flux] > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395272&highlight=fsck+exit+status+8
[12:28] <[Flux] > try that thread
[12:28] <[Flux] > its a bit more detailed, and has a fix
[12:29] <alexicon> ok cheers
[12:29] <[Flux] > i think it might be what you need
[12:29] <[Flux] > are you running fiesty?
[12:29] <alexicon> nope edgy
[12:29] <[Flux] > oohhh
[12:29] <[Flux] > hmm i know your problem is fixed in fiesty
[12:29] <alexicon> orly?
[12:29] <alexicon> hrm
[12:29] <[Flux] > yeah
[12:29] <alexicon> ive been meaning to upgrade
[12:30] <[Flux] > well this is a good reason too lol
[12:30] <[Flux] > im 99% sure it will fix your problem
[12:30] <alexicon> doing that dist upgrade causes problems for me tho, i usually go for a fresh install, just havent had the time for all that
[12:30] <alexicon> ok
[12:30] <alexicon> hrm
[12:30] <[Flux] > but like i said im kinda newbie
[12:30] <[Flux] > may wanna ask in #ubuntu
[12:30] <alexicon> guess i could test it by booting into another distro
[12:30] <alexicon> if it happens in every distro its my disk and not ubuntu//
[12:30] <alexicon> ok thanks for your help flux :)
[12:31] <[Flux] > no problem
[12:31] <[Flux] > good luck :)
[12:31] <alexicon> :)
[12:32] <jd823592> FLUX are u still there?
[12:33] <jd823592> gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file
[12:33] <bulwynkl> howdt all - anyone know why I don't seem to be able to install Nvu (or kompozer) on my laptop (7.04)?
[12:34] <jd823592> [Flux] : this is the err gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file
[12:34] <[Flux] > corrupted file maybe?
[12:34] <[Flux] > is there a md5 checksum for it?
[12:35] <thingy> jd823592: what is the output of "file UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz"
[12:35] <Sandeepc> i just installed the nvidia driver and my resolution is very low, can someone please tell me how do i increase it?i am using widescreen
[12:36] <|ericsson|> does anyone know the name of the theme manager package?
[12:36] <jd823592> Md5 might be somewhere but i dont know what to use to MD5 the archive
[12:36] <raxiv> |ericsson| - beryl + emerald should do.
[12:36] <jd823592> thingy: how did you mean that?
[12:36] <Sandeepc> i just installed the nvidia driver and my resolution is very low, can someone please tell me how do i increase it?i am using widescreen
[12:37] <|ericsson|> !fixres | Sandeepc
[12:37] <ubotu> Sandeepc: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:37] <thingy> jd823592: type in "file UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz" and paste the output to let us know what type of file it is
[12:37] <jd823592> how can i encrypt something into the MD5
[12:37] <jd823592> ok
[12:37] <Sandeepc> |ericsson|: thanks
[12:37] <jd823592> UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: gzip compressed data, was "UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run", from Unix, last modified: Fri Sep 24 12:39:12 2004, max speed
[12:37] <|ericsson|> Sandeepc: Hopefully you'll find what you need there..
[12:38] <raxiv> jd823592: http://md5encryption.com/
[12:38] <alexicon> ok this is weird
[12:39] <alexicon> so i followed what that last post showed to me
[12:39] <thingy> jd823592: Its a gzipped archive and if your getting the unexpected end of file msg, you've got a corrupt file. Download it again
[12:39] <alexicon> and apparently the drive with the uuid failure is my boot partition
[12:39] <alexicon> but it still boots despite the problem
[12:40] <jd823592> It is the 2. time ... from different source
[12:40] <jd823592> ok i will try ...THX
[12:49] <Sandeepc> !source-o-matic
[12:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:50] <detto> I accidently deleted some files that i need for x to run- is there any way for me to get wireless internet access in the terminal? I usually use kwifimonitor
[12:50] <[Flux] > detto you could always load up the live cd
[12:51] <[Flux] > and mount your harddisk, and reinstall the missing apps
[12:51] <detto> i tried that Flux, but actually the live cd i have has no program to connect me to wireless internet
[12:52] <detto> as far as getting it from the live cd itself, Flux, the file I'm pretty sure i need, xorg-server-i810 isn't on the cd
[12:52] <[Flux] > hmm
[12:52] <[Flux] > are you on the live cd now?
[12:52] <detto> I'm on the command line now
[12:52] <comodo> can someone help me every time i try to download somthing from konquer it dont allow me to open it with anything but kwrite
[12:53] <astan> hello folks. i've been running kubuntu edgy on my laptop happily for a while, should i upgrade to feisty? is it just s/edgy/feisty/ in apt.sources and dist-upgrade? should it be painless?
[12:53] <crimsun> detto: um, I know for a fact that that deb is on the cd
[12:53] <pag> comodo, rightclick -> save as :)
[12:53] <crimsun> detto: it's called xserver-xorg-video-i810*deb
[12:53] <comodo> lol thanks
[12:54] <jd823592> FLUX: when running from LIVE CD (without install.) are there all programs that are available on the cd?..... I ask because i would like to have KDEV but it is not possible to install it as package now...will that change with installation
[12:54] <detto> crimsun- this is the ubuntu 7.04 live cd, I get the error "E: Package xserver-xorg-video-i810 has no installation candidate"
[12:55] <detto> crimsun and before that it says "Package xserver-xorg-video-i810 is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[12:56] <crimsun> detto: check your md5sums
[12:56] <[Flux] > jd823592, yes it will
[12:56] <Sandeepc> !mp3
[12:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <detto> crimsun ok how do I do that, and what does that mean
[12:57] <jd823592> so if i install from LIVE than it will get available
[12:57] <[Flux] > thats correct
[12:57] <[Flux] > you may have to get it from adept package manager
[12:57] <[Flux] > which is easy :)
[12:57] <marbug> I have an old backup from my ubuntu, and I want to set it all back on the disk
[12:57] <marbug> but which directories and files may I not copy?
[12:58] <jd823592> [Flux] , does the msg in IRC get red (in Konversation) when your name is included or how do msgs get colored?
[12:58] <[Flux] > i dont use konversation sorry
[12:59] <jd823592> ok np
[12:59] <[Flux] > and jd823592 sorry to say im off to bed
[12:59] <[Flux] > good luck and you can always search the forums or ask in here or #ubuntu
[12:59] <jd823592> Thank you for your help ...good night
[12:59] <Snakez> hello....how I get back grub ?? I have instaled windows yesterday and I have lost dual boot windows with my ubuntu
[01:00] <Lynoure> !grub
[01:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:00] <Lynoure> Snakez: see there.
[01:01] <Snakez> tnx :)
[01:02] <Snakez> seems difficult
[01:02] <Sandeepc> can anyone please help me in getting restricted formats to be played on kubun feisty?, the help in factoids is always for GNOME and not KDE
[01:04] <wedontneed> hi i cant install my nvidia driver can someone help me?
[01:04] <amigrave> does kubuntu saves the MBR before installing grub ?
[01:05] <jtt> !nvidia
[01:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:06] <jtt> amigrave, dont believe it does but you can
[01:06] <jtt> !mbr
[01:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:07] <amigrave> jtt: thanks
[01:08] <jtt> amigrave, learn as much as you can about grub it is a very important piece of linux   and can save you if you blow away the MBR etc.
[01:09] <jtt> i always keep a boot floppy in my machine in case something blows the MBR that way I can always boot any of the several OS's I have in the machine with the floppy
[01:10] <amigrave> jtt: I like grub a lot (compared to lilo) and I often use it for rescue with advanced option but in my case I want to virtualize the computer of the company I'm working for (fed up to bring it at home everyday) this computer runs windows but I installed kubuntu on it a while ago. Now I want to restore the windows MBR before virtualizing
[01:12] <jtt> amigrave, ok search for  the phrase   writeraw  on google it shows how to  save the MBR to floppy
[01:12] <jtt> think it is read or  write  raw
[01:13] <jtt> amigrave, just googled   save mbr   and the first hit seems to be what you can use
[01:13] <amigrave> jtt: I know I can "dd" the first sector, but it's too late. This is why I was wondering if the kubuntu install process (or grub itself) was saving the MBR before overwritting it
[01:14] <jtt> actually there are several  save  MBR  items, one is a wizard  looks good
[01:15] <jtt> amigrave, if you have another windows machine you can dd that one and use that MBR to restore
[01:17] <Sandeepc> if i install the gstreamer plugins in kubun, will the formats play in amarok n kaffeine?, or are the gstreamer for gnome?
[01:18] <detto> how can I install a package from a cd in the terminal? do I need to mount the cd?
[01:22] <amigrave> jtt: yeps but I have not ;-) Hope I can fdisk /mbr from freedos but I'm afraid to do this on this computer :)
[01:23] <Sandeepc> !beryl
[01:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:25] <blekos> could u tell me how i can make a FULL system backup using tar?
[01:27] <LjL> blekos: some days ago someone mentioned    tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /     and others confirmed it would work
[01:28] <sorsis> where should i contact if i want to help with ubuntu?
[01:31] <eljak> hi anybody familiar with how would i share my internet connection with my mobile phone via bluetooth?
[01:35] <aldin> i would like to make #kubuntu-CC how do i become admin of that?
[01:37] <comodo> can you set kubuntu where if you double click somthing it wont try to open it twice??
[01:38] <|lostbyte|> comodo, yes, turning off single click :)
[01:50] <peewee> hallo zusammen
[01:51] <peewee> ich hatte vor einiger zeit das problem, dass die datenbank von adept gesperrt war
[01:51] <BluesKaj> !de
[01:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:51] <peewee> mit einem befehl 'config...' konnte man das problem wieder aufheben
[01:51] <peewee> wie heisst der richtige befehl?
[01:52] <BluesKaj> !de | peewee
[01:52] <ubotu> peewee: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:52] <Dragony40> alguien habla ESPAOL en esta sala?
[01:52] <BluesKaj> !es | Dragony40
[01:52] <ubotu> Dragony40: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:52] <ninHer> ;-)
[01:52] <ninHer> me too
[01:52] <Sandeepc> !es | Dragony40
[01:52] <axel> ni hao! somebody speak chinese???
[01:52] <LjL> !cn
[01:52] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:53] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:53] <ninHer> hi does anybody speak lakota ?
[01:53] <BluesKaj> mandarin?
[01:53] <imagine> gotta love unicode
[01:53] <axel> orange
[01:53] <BluesKaj> !mn
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:54] <ninHer> perhaps Mega Natural .....something ?
[01:54] <ninHer> :-)
[01:54] <boyee> Hi all.How to use the wget to download all one site?
[01:54] <boyee> the parameter is ?
[01:54] <boyee> axel?
[01:54] <boyee> are you chinese?
[01:54] <BluesKaj> wget the URL in the CLI then add the deb address to the sourceslist
[01:55] <ninHer> wget [option] ... [URL] ...
[01:55] <ninHer> boyee: use man fron a console......better
[01:56] <boyee> I use man but I cann't decide which one is I need.I use the wget -r -p -np -k www.xxxx.com/doc
[01:56] <boyee> But I download all of them.It's not what I want,I only want the doc directory and it's subdirectory.
[01:59] <mobtek> hmmm does anyone know where I set the kdm resolution? it's very low atm :)
[02:00] <mobtek> !kdm resolution
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Sandeepc> !fixres | mobtek
[02:00] <ubotu> mobtek: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:01] <mobtek> thanks
[02:01] <Sandeepc> np
[02:06] <franky> hi!!!
[02:07] <franky> i've a problem...i don't know how to play avi files on kubuntu.pls help
[02:07] <franky> :-)
[02:08] <mats> codein, player ect..
[02:08] <mats> mplayer*
[02:08] <mats> codeine*
[02:08] <imagine> franky: you need to codec
[02:08] <imagine> Kaffeine...
[02:08] <imagine> not codeine
[02:08] <franky> kaffeine doesn't work
[02:08] <imagine> franky: get the codecs
[02:08] <imagine> !codec
[02:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:09] <franky> i've installed vlc and the audio works but the screen is black
[02:09] <Janco> Does it exist an mobile manager for sony Ericsson ?
[02:09] <imagine> franky: have you read ^^
[02:09] <Janco> working with bluetooth
[02:10] <franky> yes tnx
[02:10] <Janco> do you have a link to it?
[02:11] <imagine> franky: so you installed libdvdcss2 ?
[02:14] <deathplanter> kde sets wrong resolution although i've typed correct in xorg.conf. what's wrong?
[02:14] <Cugel> Does anyone know where icon files for minimized apps (that is, the icons shown in the kicker) are located? I can't find them.
[02:16] <imagine> Cugel: kmenu.png located if I remember in ~/.kde
[02:16] <imagine> I'd suggest you search for kmenu.png within the ~/.kde folder
[02:16] <Cugel> Yeah that one's easy. But for example the Amarok icon, the Thunderbird icon...
[02:16] <deathplanter> what's called this annoying app that sets resolution in kde?
[02:17] <_StefanS_> deathplanter: krandrtray
[02:17] <|lostbyte|> lol
[02:17] <deathplanter> _StefanS_: if i uninstall it, will resolution be read from xorg.conf?
[02:18] <_StefanS_> deathplanter: should be in any case, but yes.
[02:18] <_StefanS_> deathplanter: you might have krandrtray overriding
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> deathplanter, both ways its read from xorg.conf..
[02:19] <deathplanter> damnit,i can't find it anywhere
[02:19] <deathplanter> are you sure you didn't do any typo writing its name?
[02:19] <deathplanter> or maybe it's in some other packet?
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> nope, its right.
[02:20] <deathplanter> afk sec
[02:22] <Sandeepc> my external hdd is not being mounted, it does get detected and kubun asks me whther to 'open in a new window' but no matter what i select, nothing happens. What should be done?
[02:23] <|lostbyte|> Sandeepc, thats the way it has to be done, look in /media/
[02:24] <deathplanter> _StefanS_: damn, i can't find this krandrtray.
[02:24] <deathplanter> apt-get remove kradrtray doesn't really work
[02:24] <sy135_> hi leutz
[02:25] <sy135_> i've got a problem with jre 1.4
[02:25] <sy135_> if it is started in mozilla mozilla is going to hung up
[02:26] <dromer> damnit, I keep getting kernel panics (well that's what someone told me earlier it was) on feisty this week
[02:26] <dromer> can someone help me find out the problem and how to fix it?
[02:26] <_StefanS_> deathplanter: just quit it, so it wont start the next time you login
[02:27] <fdoving> deathplanter: it's in the kcontrol package, so i guess you don't want to remove it.
[02:28] <_StefanS_> don't really see the issue with krandrtray
[02:31] <Janco> can someone help me with installation of a mce keyboard driver?
[02:33] <spawn57> Janco: mce keyboard? the media center keyboard?
[02:36] <FOAD> Hi.
[02:37] <FOAD> Is it possible to change the minimized systray icons (in the kicker)?  How?
[02:45] <Linux_Galore> FOAD: yes
[02:46] <FOAD> Linux_Galore: thanks for answering my first question.  Can you help me with the second one?
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> FOAD: moust over kicker then right click -> configure panel then arrangement, the icons resize to match the panel
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> mouse*
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> FOAD: change the panel size and that changes the icons
[02:48] <FOAD> Ok thanks.
[02:49] <erikja> !samba
[02:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> FOAD: might want to look at the appearance section then click on advanced, hide the applet handles
[02:50] <spawn57> hi, is it posible for me to recompile the nfs module to enable acls?
[02:51] <Linux_Galore> spawn57: I dont think nfs has anything to do with acl's
[02:52] <spawn57> nfs3 and 4 support acls, ubuntu's kernel doesn't have'em enabled though
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> spawn57: nope Im wrong nfs3 does acl's
[02:54] <spawn57> Linux_Galore: learn something new everyday hehe
[02:54] <athena> !acl
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <athena> ...
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> !nfs
[03:01] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> wonder what the default version of NFS is on Ubuntu feisty ie do they use nfs4
[03:02] <Tm_T> Kite_DH: mooh
[03:02] <Kite_DH> Tm_T: 
[03:02] <Linux_Galore> !package nfs
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package nfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <nbcb> !rar
[03:04] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:04] <nbcb> how to unrar
[03:04] <nbcb> !info unrar-free
[03:05] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:08] <mats> !bz2
[03:08] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:10] <spawn57> !ninja
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ninja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <spawn57> !omgwtfbbq
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about omgwtfbbq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <spawn57> ah well
[03:13] <mats> !cybersex
[03:13] <mats> ;)
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cybersex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <LjL> !botabuse
[03:13] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:14] <Tm_T> spawn57: mats: behave
[03:14] <mats> Tm_T: ;) sorry
[03:14] <|ericsson|> When I try to force-reload/reload/start bind, I get rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused, all the time
[03:15] <|ericsson|> /var/log/syslog gives me none:0: open: /etc/bind/named.conf: permission denied even though I'm running as root
[03:15] <Tm_T> |ericsson|: check ownership of named.conf
[03:16] <|ericsson|> Tm_T: -rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 1611 2007-02-20 15:40 /etc/bind/named.conf
[03:16] <Tm_T> interesting
[03:16] <|ericsson|> Tm_T: you'd think ;)
[03:18] <CVirus> w
[03:18] <franky> hi!
[03:18] <franky> i've a problem
[03:18] <franky> when i open adept_installer
[03:18] <mats> are you a problem?
[03:18] <CVirus> test
[03:19] <|ericsson|> CVirus: test worked
[03:19] <franky> the program says that another program is using the packages
[03:19] <franky> what do i have to do?!
[03:19] <|ericsson|> franky: have you got it open in GUI?
[03:19] <CVirus> |ericsson|: was testing dcop .. sorry :-)
[03:19] <|ericsson|> CVirus: :)
[03:20] <franky> ????
[03:20] <|ericsson|> franky: are you writing commands on the command line or are you starting a program?
[03:20] <franky> i'm starting adept_installer
[03:21] <|ericsson|> franky: since you can't do both at the same time, i.e. if you have a window with adept open and run it from the command line at the same time, then it will fail
[03:21] <franky> but i don't know the name of the other program!
[03:22] <franky> how can i close it?!
[03:22] <franky> i wanted to close it using the process list
[03:23] <franky> but i don't know its name!
[03:23] <amachu> hi
[03:23] <amachu> anyone used kasablanca
[03:23] <amachu> its not rendering unicode text prperly
[03:23] <amachu> any other ftp client in kde, that render's unicode text properly
[03:24] <imagine> franky: you either started apt- in command line or you close an other adept-installer instance by killing it which made the database to still be locked.. it's one or the other, really
[03:24] <IdleOne> !ftp
[03:24] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:24] <chijin> amachu: konqueror
[03:24] <amachu> konqueror has ftp client
[03:24] <amachu> ??
[03:24] <chijin> yes
[03:24] <imagine> amachu: of course, Kpart..
[03:25] <chijin> just type ftp:// and your address
[03:25] <franky> ok how can i close apt- in command line?!
[03:25] <franky> pls hlep
[03:25] <amachu> chijin: http://www.osresources.com/3_19_en.html
[03:25] <ernie> franky - whats on your screen right now? as in are you running KDE or Gnome?
[03:25] <amachu> chijin: go this help link
[03:25] <amachu> thank u
[03:26] <franky> kde
[03:26] <amachu> :-)
[03:26] <imagine> franky: why don't you explain us what you did instead of being as vague as the midget that walks down the street( sry there's actually a midget walking down the street hahah)
[03:26] <franky> okok
[03:26] <franky> sorry
[03:26] <franky> i was looking for
[03:26] <franky> codecs for kaffeine
[03:26] <franky> and i read about ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:27] <ernie> franky - so you've got KDE running - did you run the Adept-Manager from your KDE?
[03:27] <franky> i opened adept_manager
[03:27] <BluesKaj> how does one connectto another pc using a mac address?
[03:27] <ernie> imagine - nice one :)
[03:27] <franky> and i lounched the installation
[03:27] <imagine> ernie: hehe ;)
[03:27] <ernie> franky - ok and what happened when you did that?
[03:27] <franky> it worked but
[03:27] <franky> maybe i've stopped it
[03:28] <franky> and adept-manager closed
[03:28] <imagine> I love the "it worked but" part
[03:28] <franky> then i've tried to re-open adept-manager
[03:28] <ernie> imagine: for sure :)
[03:28] <shawn34> Does Kleansweep really work? How much can I trust it?
[03:28] <franky> and it said that another program was using the back...of packages
[03:29] <franky> something like that
[03:29] <weedar> Is it possible to search through a tar file without untaring it first?
[03:29] <ernie> franky - so it was open - you closed it - you're reopened it and then ....
[03:29] <irvken> can I install google earth with adept
[03:29] <aleksanteri> where's the kbfx conf file located at? the configurator doesn't really do what i tell it to do :/
[03:29] <franky> then the program told me that another
[03:29] <ernie> franky - did you Close it or have you just minimized it?
[03:30] <imagine> database is locked .. don't know how to manually unlock it in Kubuntu, I guess it's __rpm.000
[03:30] <weedar> irvken: yeah, use the medibuntu repository ( http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com )
[03:30] <franky> yes
[03:30] <franky> database locked
[03:30] <imagine> franky: answers ernie's question
[03:30] <franky> maybe it is
[03:31] <ernie> franky - you had adpet manager running - then you closed it- then you re ran it and it says something else is running to stop it - What happened in between do you think?
[03:31] <ajus> howto browse files on sony ericsson k608?  help pls
[03:31] <stivani> franky: try this in a terminal window: sudo killall apt-get
[03:31] <ernie> or didn't happen :)
[03:31] <franky> ok
[03:31] <aleksanteri> where's the kbfx conf file located at? the configurator doesn't really do what i tell it to do :/
[03:31] <stivani> franky: and then try running adept again
[03:31] <franky> i trie
[03:32] <ajus> i try lsub, i get "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0fce:d017 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB K608i Phone".... how to mount it, so i can explore the files?
[03:32] <imagine> franky: this is not windows, you seem to be new to linux and I'll give you this advice, we don't care that you did something wrong, we care on fixing it with you, so next time, explains what you did too screw your machine up, better you explain the steps you have made before making it happen, better and easier it will be for us to help you understand your box so you don't do it next time
[03:33] <franky> ok
[03:33] <franky> i'm sorry
[03:33] <ernie> imagine: yeah - when you do yo uend up answering your own questions sometimes :)
[03:34] <imagine> ernie: hahaha yeah :) I am speaking from experience ;)
[03:34] <franky> i tried sudo killall apt-get
[03:34] <|ericsson|> franky: It take practice to learn linux and experience comes from making mistakes and practice on fixing them
[03:34] <franky> i know
[03:34] <franky> :-(
[03:34] <franky> i tried sudo killall apt-get
[03:35] <ernie> franky: no probs - hey I spent a wee while trying to figure why my partitoner was seeing "another drive" with a 2048 byte sectors - the problem was the IPOD :)
[03:35] <|ericsson|> ernie: :)
[03:35] <franky> but doesn't work
[03:35] <franky> i think apt-get is running
[03:35] <franky> maybe i need a command to close it
[03:35] <|ericsson|> franky: can you type: top
[03:36] <ajus> help pls.. anyone...
[03:36] <franky> but i don't know :-(
[03:36] <ernie> franky: can you see it down in your task bar?
[03:36] <stivani> franky: sudo killall apt-get should close apt-get if it's running :)
[03:36] <|ericsson|> !ask > ajus
[03:36] <franky> i trie again
[03:36] <aleksanteri> franky: i don't see any other option than to restart X
[03:36] <aleksanteri> unless there is some command to close apt
[03:37] <|ericsson|> one way to go is to top, kill the PID for apt if it's running
[03:37] <franky> how???
[03:37] <ernie> was waiting for that :)
[03:37] <|ericsson|> franky: you are in the terminal now?
[03:37] <franky> yes
[03:37] <|ericsson|> franky: ok, simply type: top
[03:38] <franky> done
[03:38] <ajus> :( ... bye
[03:38] <franky> then??
[03:38] <|ericsson|> franky: that should give you a list of processes running on your system
[03:38] <franky> ok
[03:38] <franky> it does it
[03:38] <|ericsson|> franky:  can you see apt in that list?
[03:38] <weedar> I think franky might still be running an adept-process, why not do a "ps aux | grep adept" in a konsole to see if that is the fact?
[03:39] <aleksanteri> !asl | ajus
[03:39] <aleksanteri> !ask | ajus
[03:39] <aleksanteri> bah too late
[03:39] <imagine> ahah
[03:39] <franky> no
[03:39] <franky> there is no apt
[03:39] <ubotu> ajus: Most of us don't speak American Sign Language, please try english instead. 
[03:39] <ubotu> ajus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:39] <aleksanteri> :o ubotu was lagging
[03:41] <franky> i don't see any apt
[03:41] <imagine> what's the file that locks the rpm ?
[03:41] <|ericsson|> franky: ok, press q to stop running the top overview
[03:41] <imagine> wlel not the rpm but the package database?
[03:41] <ernie> franky: did you try what weedar suggested - I'm running my adept-manager - and it shows up in there
[03:41] <weedar> franky: if you write "ps aux | grep adept" in a konsole, do you get any output?
[03:42] <franky> ok i trie
[03:42] <franky> yes
[03:42] <franky> something has gone out
[03:43] <weedar> franky: join #spam and paste the output there  so I can see
[03:44] <imagine> weedar: paste bin?
[03:44] <weedar> ....or use a pastebin ;)
[03:44] <|ericsson|> franky: ?
[03:44] <franky> i need to be invited
[03:44] <imagine> lol
[03:44] <franky> i can't join
[03:44] <aleksanteri> franky: http://pastebin.com/
[03:44] <aleksanteri> paste it there
[03:44] <aleksanteri> and give the url to the paste
[03:45] <Alarm> franky,  sorry for telling u to repeat, but whats the problem ? :)
[03:46] <blekos> hi, i bought a 320gb external hd, but it seems to be only 298gb, does it have to do with linux or smg?
[03:46] <franky> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:46] <Psychoss> salut francky
[03:46] <Alarm> blekos,  it has to do with the companies
[03:46] <aleksanteri> !en | Psychoss
[03:46] <ubotu> Psychoss: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:46] <Alarm> selling trick
[03:46] <imagine> po de francais
[03:46] <Psychoss> hi
[03:47] <Alarm> blekos,  they use basis10 and not 2
[03:47] <asincrono> hi
[03:47] <blekos> on the box says 1gb=1billion bytes
[03:47] <weedar> franky: are you able to paste the output to pastebin?
[03:47] <franky> Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[03:47] <Psychoss> i read somewhere that i must change of graphic cards for ubuntu it's an prophet 4500
[03:47] <aleksanteri> franky: use http://pastebin.ca/
[03:47] <asincrono> where can I find a repository list for ubuntu?
[03:47] <Alarm> blekos,  it has nothing to do with the OS
[03:47] <Alarm> it has to do with the basis as a told u
[03:47] <blekos> but aint supposed 2 b divided by 1024?
[03:47] <tsdgeos> Psychoss: it should work, i had it on the past, the problem is that it does not has any driver so basilly you are left with bare minimum
[03:47] <Alarm> for them . 1gb = 1,000mb . in the real world . 1gb = 1024mb ,
[03:47] <imagine> blekos: they round it down
[03:48] <Alarm> so if they give you 1gb its not 1024mb  :)
[03:48] <ernie> franky: yep it seems pastebin.com is pasted
[03:48] <franky> doneeeee
[03:48] <Alarm> imagine,  its not a rounding
[03:48] <aleksanteri> franky: give the url to the paste
[03:48] <imagine> Alarm: ???
[03:48] <franky> http://pastebin.ca/473870
[03:49] <asincrono> Alarm: 1mb = 1000 b in Networks telecomunications world ... and 1024 in compubiers "binary" world
[03:49] <Psychoss> ok what kind of g cards can i take?
[03:49] <Psychoss> if i want change it
[03:49] <Alarm> normally 1gb is = 1073741824kb
[03:49] <jaims> hi
[03:49] <aleksanteri> franky: seems normal
[03:49] <Alarm> they give you 1.000.000.000 kb , which means less than a gb
[03:49] <weedar> franky: "sudo kill 5432 5729 5824" :)
[03:49] <blekos> again 320*24=7068, i should have 7.1gb less
[03:49] <jaims> es.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <franky> ok i trie
[03:49] <jaims> is the server off?
[03:49] <weedar> or skipp that first one, 5432, it's just the notifier
[03:50] <Alarm> their (companies) gb is 0.93gb but not 1
[03:50] <asincrono> jaims: I can't update from that server eigther
[03:50] <jaims> aha
[03:50] <asincrono> ... ouch ... sorry for that english :S
[03:50] <jaims> too many ubuntu people trying to update, i guess :)
[03:50] <blekos> i c
[03:50] <franky> nothing
[03:50] <jaims> dont worry for english, mine not too god either
[03:50] <blekos> how did u come up with the 0.93gb
[03:50] <Alarm> blekos,  320 gb = 320.000.000.000 kb (in their world) , divide this by 1024 , 1024 , 1024 and u will get ur real gb
[03:51] <asincrono> btw do u know where to find a repository list?
[03:51] <weedar> franky: you are still not able to start adept?
[03:51] <franky> no
[03:51] <weedar> odd
[03:51] <Psychoss> thx tsdgeos :)
[03:51] <asincrono> Alarm: ... in the telecomunications world 1 Byte = 10 bits... and it's normal
[03:51] <Alarm> deviding by 1024 , 1024 has basis 2 , 2^10
[03:51] <blekos> u divide 3 times , for bytes, mb and gb right?
[03:51] <Alarm> asincrono,  here its computer world. there are also 7bit byte machines running. so what ?
[03:52] <Alarm> blekos,  correct
[03:52] <blekos> ok got it
[03:52] <blekos> damn them
[03:52] <asincrono> 1k = 1000 in the "normal" world... and what?
[03:52] <kekko_> hi all
[03:52] <Alarm> asincrono,  in comp . science we dont have 10basis, but 2
[03:53] <franky> nothing
[03:53] <asincrono> but networks are not only computers
[03:53] <franky> adept doesn't work
[03:53] <Alarm> asincrono,  i dont understand ur way of thinking. its not me i inveted binary system
[03:54] <asincrono> I try to say that there is two normal ways of count bits
[03:54] <asincrono> telecomunications => 1k = 1000
[03:55] <Alarm> blekos,  do the divisions finally get u ur 298gb ? :) if yes ur hd is ok
[03:55] <asincrono> and computer => 1k = 1024
[03:55] <asincrono> that's all
[03:55] <blekos> yes there are...
[03:55] <Alarm> sorry, for me that i study computer sciences , when someone tells me 1k , it means 2^10
[03:55] <Alarm> and still 1 byte for me is 8 bits , unless we talk about ascii
[03:56] <ubuntu> hiya
[03:56] <ubuntu> Just got kubuntu
[03:56] <|ericsson|> franky: how about restarting your machine? :)
[03:56] <aleksanteri> franky: or X at least
[03:56] <ernie> Alarm - well I hope I never owe you 1k dollars :) I'll be short 24 bucks
[03:56] <franky> ok
[03:56] <franky> i restart
[03:56] <franky> it
[03:57] <Alarm> franky,  adepts manager gui is a bit buggy , i did have also some problems
[03:57] <franky> ok
[03:57] <Alarm> like i was never asked again for a password , and such stuff and had to kill some processes
[03:57] <franky> i restart
[03:57] <Alarm> do so my son, come to the dark side
[04:00] <dr_willis> Anyone else having issues with ktorrent crashing all the time?
[04:00] <franky> hey
[04:00] <franky> nothing has changed
[04:00] <dr_willis> howdy franky
[04:00] <dettoaltrimenti_> when I start X, I get this error popup- "Kdocker: no system tray found." am I missing a package?
[04:01] <ernie> dr_willis : I've only used it under 6.10 and it seemed ok - I'm 7.04ing now
[04:01] <dr_willis> ernie,  right - used to work fine for me. Now it seems to crash every 40 min or so
[04:02] <imagine> franky: nothing has changed? what do you mean?
[04:02] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[04:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:02] <franky> i can't open adept
[04:02] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[04:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> franky- what does it say when you try to open adept?
[04:02] <ernie> dr_willis - unrelated but I had a few lockups tonight just moving some big files around - very strange - although - I was doing "Other Stuff"
[04:02] <BlackBsd> is there any way to install kubuntu from a running linux system?
[04:02] <jaims> bye all
[04:03] <franky> it says that another program is using the database packages
[04:03] <imagine> franky: like I said earlier, better you explain, better we help, what is the error messahe
[04:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> franky- did you try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:03] <imagine> franky: hang on...
[04:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> that should fix it
[04:03] <franky> how?!
[04:03] <amigrave>  /j #knoppix
[04:03] <amigrave> ;)
[04:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> franky- open the terminal, and type 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and press enter
[04:04] <Super_Cat_Frog_> hi - does anybody know what command kde issues when you hit the 'suspend' option of the logout menu?
[04:04] <Super_Cat_Frog_> i want to set that as my default logout action
[04:04] <Psychoss> is there something special to do to use a radius server on ubuntu?
[04:04] <heinkel_111> omg what have they done to audio ripping in feisty :(
[04:04] <imagine> franky: try this in commandline "apt-get clean"
[04:04] <heinkel_111> they have taken away the Konqueror virtual falc, mp3, ogg folders?
[04:05] <heinkel_111> they have taken away the Konqueror virtual flac, mp3, ogg folders?
[04:05] <franky> Impossibile aprire il file di lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[04:05] <Super_Cat_Frog_> heinkel_111: can you not apt instal them from universe?
[04:05] <heinkel_111> also removed KaudioCreator ?
[04:05] <heinkel_111> I would not now how to fix that wiht konqueror
[04:05] <Psychoss> kaudio creator is not fine?
[04:05] <imagine> franky "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[04:05] <heinkel_111> Super_Cat_Frog_: but maybe kaudiocreator is avaialble
[04:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> franky "ps -e | grep adept" if anything shows up, type "sudo kill ####" where #### is the number next to the program
[04:06] <Alarm> or type this: echo 16i[q] sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx] sbA0D4D465452snlb xq |dc
[04:07] <ernie> or not
[04:07] <aleksanteri> Alarm: :P
[04:07] <franky> tnxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[04:07] <imagine> np
[04:07] <Alarm> u see . my command worked :)
[04:07] <franky> i don't know how
[04:07] <franky> but know i works
[04:07] <franky> I LOVE U ALL
[04:08] <franky> tnx for the patience
[04:08] <imagine> franky: you sudo rm /var/log/cache/ ?
[04:08] <ernie> franky: write down what you've learnt tonight - you'l need it again one day
 franky "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[04:08] <franky> after this
[04:08] <imagine> thought so
[04:08] <Alarm> franky,  and once you learned enough u will come here with |ericsson|  and fix my usb drive :)
[04:08] <franky> ok
[04:08] <aleksanteri> lol
[04:08] <franky> tnx very much
[04:09] <imagine> np
[04:09] <ernie> imagine: well done :)
[04:10] <imagine> ernie: don't worry that db lock was my worst nightmare when I first started on Suse, I was always fkin up my Yast instances :)
[04:10] <franky> tnx to all again
[04:10] <franky> ciao!
[04:11] <kekko_> *wondering
[04:11] <kekko_> * wondering
[04:12] <ernie> imagine:well I ended up reinstalling my setup - cause I broke it - but I found out why it broke later when it broke again :) the joys of it all
[04:12] <Psychoss> toc toc toc
[04:12] <imagine> ernie: hahaha ;)
[04:12] <ernie> dual monitors can be so much fun installing
[04:12] <imagine> so did I 3 weeks ago when I screwed up my GRUB config while formatting a partition running X..
[04:13] <Psychoss> cya ubuntu irc
[04:13] <ernie> cya Psychoss
[04:15] <ernie> I need to break my Raid one night to see if I can fix it when its important :)
[04:15] <BluesKaj> super grub cd
[04:15] <imagine> ernie: you have a lot of time to waste to break your system on purpose ;)
[04:17] <jbasilio> hi, anyone know how to open a .deb to view the post-install script?
[04:17] <ernie> imagine: well better sooner than later, but I must get some real work done now - I've educated myself enough to rebuild this system in my sleep - after all - I was asleep when I was doing it :)
[04:17] <imagine> lol
[04:17] <wetermvd> alloha
[04:17] <boyke> hallo
[04:18] <wetermvd> anybody there?
[04:18] <wetermvd> hoi
[04:18] <wetermvd> where u from?
[04:18] <dr_willis> jbasilio,  try the 'mc' program perhaps? it can view the interla files of a lot of packages like that.
[04:18] <ernie> just us chickens
[04:18] <boyke> can anyone tell me how to install s3g unichrome onboard video card?
[04:18] <jbasilio> dr_willis: i'll give it a whirl.  never used mc before
[04:19] <dr_willis> jbasilio,  Blasphmy!
[04:19] <dr_willis> :)
[04:19] <dr_willis> apt-get install mc - is one of the FIRST things i install heh heh
[04:19] <boyke> help me please
[04:19] <ernie> boyke: have you ventured out into the forums to answer that one
[04:19] <boyke> ya
[04:19] <jbasilio> dr_willis: ahhh, i think i recognize this now .. midnight commander .. yikes!! i had forgotten about it
[04:20] <boyke> ive tried but it gives me error
[04:20] <boyke> when i try the last step
[04:20] <wetermvd> is this like windows?
[04:20] <wetermvd> where am i?
[04:20] <wetermvd> i need tot snort
[04:21] <dr_willis> jbasilio,  it rocks :)
[04:21] <boyke> glxinfo | grep render
[04:21] <jbasilio> jbasilio: so does vi, but i'd have a tough time convincing anyone that didn't cut their teeth on it.  :)
[04:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok, I'm missing my k-menu and system tray- anyone have any ideas how I can fix this?
[04:22] <boyke> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:22] <dr_willis> cant figure out mc? egads...
[04:22] <dr_willis> select the file hit enter. :)
[04:22] <dr_willis> see if it then enters the 'file'  and shows its contents
[04:22] <dr_willis> one day - i 'ran' a video file from mc. it ran xine (or somthing) using the Ascii-Art output.
[04:23] <arunkale> hey, people. i ran the upgrade from edgy to feisty as described on the ubuntu web site, but i got an error when it was installing the updates, and when i restarted, kubuntu wouldn't start anymore, giving me some weird errors. kubuntu was (is?) installed on a dual boot system, so is there any way i can repair the installation or re-install it or delete it without harming the windows partition?
[04:23] <|ericsson|> Alarm: :)))
[04:23] <dr_willis> i was watching starwars in ascii text. :)
[04:23] <dr_willis> over ssh.
[04:23] <boyke> so can anybody help me?
[04:23] <jbasilio> dr_willis: i figured it out fine .. just meant it looks very ... dated.  but then again i love vi and wouldn't expect someone that didn't cut their teeth on it to use it
[04:23] <jbasilio> dr_willis: at any rate, i was looking for the .deb and found the .deb decompressed in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[04:24] <dr_willis> jbasilio,  every week or so i find a new 'mc type' file manager for Gnome or kde.
[04:24] <dr_willis> :)
[04:24] <boyke> can anyone tell me how to install s3g unichrome onboard video card?
[04:25] <jbasilio> arunkale: have you tried to sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... ?
[04:25] <dr_willis> !find s3g
[04:25] <wetermvd> wel if you have something to snort
[04:25] <ubotu> Package/file s3g does not exist in feisty
[04:25] <boyke> ye
[04:25] <boyke> yes
[04:25] <boyke> it doessnt exist
[04:26] <arunkale> jbasilio: i followed this guide for the upgrade: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[04:26] <jbasilio> arunkale: i'm saying after your failure now i'm assuming the guide didn't instruct that .. so have you run those 2 commands?  they might fix what's broken
[04:27] <arunkale> jbasilio: where do i run the commands
[04:27] <blekos> is there a way to find folders >xxx mb from the command line?
[04:27] <jbasilio> arunkale: any console window
[04:27] <jbasilio> arunkale: konsole if you want to use a kde one
[04:27] <boyke> so i cannot setup my s3g video card in kubuntu?
[04:27] <wetermvd>     nope
[04:28] <arunkale> jbasilio: kubuntu doesn't start at all
[04:28] <arunkale> i get a weird error during boot
[04:28] <jbasilio> arunkale: does it boot?  can you log into the text screen?
[04:28] <wetermvd> ERRor , please replace end user
[04:29] <arunkale> jbasilio: i get the grub screen, if i select kubuntu, it starts to boot and then gives me a bunch of errors (text).. what do i do from here?
[04:29] <dr_willis> boyke,  just because no one in irc knows the exact way does not mean its impossible.
[04:29] <boyke> oic
[04:29] <dr_willis> boyke,  i would saycheck the ubuntu/kubuntu hardware forums./wiki pages
[04:29] <jbasilio> arunkale: write down the errors and tell us what they are .. or reinstall from scratch.  without those errors it's pretty tough to know what's going on.
[04:29] <boyke> what is the address?
[04:30] <jbasilio> arunkale: i assume you tried the upgrade disc again?
[04:30] <arunkale> jbasilio: i didn't try installing it from a cd again, coz i don't know how to do it over the existing installation
[04:30] <arunkale> i just don't want to fry the windows partition
[04:30] <dr_willis> google for feisty  s3g unichrome   would be where I would start
[04:30] <jbasilio> arunkale: try the upgrade path from the cd again .. or tell us what the errors are
[04:31] <boyke> ok
[04:31] <boyke> thanks :)
[04:31] <arunkale> jbasilio: ok hold on
[04:33] <jbasilio> anyone install drupal on feisty successfully?
[04:33] <jbasilio> can anyone TRY to install drupal and see if it works for them?
[04:33] <jbasilio> package is called drupal-5.1
[04:33] <dr_willis> !info drupal
[04:33] <ubotu> Package drupal does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:33] <jbasilio> CMS system
[04:33] <dr_willis> heh heh :)
[04:33] <dr_willis> somthing ive never needed I guess.
[04:33] <jbasilio> :)  content management system .. zope, phpnuke
[04:34] <jbasilio> you've used it on the 'net .. in fact i think ubuntu uses it for their pages
[04:34] <ernie> drupal just needs apache and mysql to run
[04:34] <jbasilio> sudo apt-get install drupal-5.1
[04:34] <jbasilio> yeah .. if it's too many dependencies for you don't do it ..
[04:34] <jbasilio> just didn't know if anyone could try and let me know if their system works and mine is messed up
[04:35] <jbasilio> my installation is messing up on post-installation .. i think it's during db creation but i don't know.
[04:36] <dr_willis> dependencies heh - trying to get MythTv going right now. :)
[04:36] <irvken> hi
[04:36] <dr_willis> Talk about Dependencies..
[04:36] <dr_willis> brb
[04:36] <irvken> new feisty fawn install, kubuntu newbie, installed google earth but i's freezing on initialisation
[04:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> my audio is not working- is there any log file where I can find any errors having to do with this?
[04:37] <arunkale> jbasilio: you around?
[04:37] <jbasilio> arunkale: yup
[04:37] <amigrave> I have a kubuntu installation on /dev/sda5. I screwed up my mbr. I want to boot on this partition using the kubuntu boot cd ? With some linux boot cd using grub, it is possible to type "E" and edit the kernel boot line in order to substitute the root=  parameter. IS This possible with kubuntu install cd ?
[04:38] <arunkale> i get a whole bunch of these -- 'init:/etc/event.d/xxx: unknown stanza'
[04:38] <dromer> can someone help me find out what my recent kernel-panics (what someone else told me they where) of last week have been all about and how I can fix them?
[04:38] <jbasilio> dr_willis: did you try knoppmyth?
[04:38] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ : what sound card(s) do you have?
[04:39] <jbasilio> arunkale: hmmm.  ok.  doesn't sound familiar to me.  i'd say boot from cd and try upgrade again ... won't fry your windows
[04:39] <arunkale> ok
[04:39] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_: you can type aplay -l to show the cards
[04:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> ernie: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04) .... I've been having lots of problems since I accidentally removed some important packages
[04:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> ernie- Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958]  this shows up under aplay -l
[04:40] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ : yeah I've been there too - just got my two sound cards behaving today
[04:40] <eXistenz> Hello, is it recommended to upgrade to feisty?
[04:41] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ type cat /proc/asound/modules and see what comes up
[04:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> ernie: 0 snd_intel8x0
[04:42] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ good - its being seen ok
[04:42] <jbasilio> wow.  if anyone ever needs this nugget (maybe i should put it on ubuntuguide).  you can go to /var/lib/dpkg/info, look for <yourpackage.postinst>, place a set -x near the top of the file, and everything that happens in post-installation will echo at command line
[04:42] <jbasilio> NICE!
[04:43] <jbasilio> and drupal is dying for me b/c they hardcoded port 80 for a post-installation step to see if it's working.  i run my server on a different port
[04:43] <dr_willis> jbasilio,  been using Knoppmyth for ages.. and i alwaysmanage tobreak it. :)
[04:43] <dr_willis> jbasilio,  looks like Feisty's Mythtv stuff is MUCHMUCH better done now from the last ubuntu's versions
[04:44] <jbasilio> dr_willis: i used it for awhile .. was nice.  then i switched to windows MCE through my xbox 360.  xbox has horsepower for HDTV and MCE has tie-in to my friends list etc ... too good to pass up
[04:44] <dr_willis> jbasilio,  i normally just watch videos ive ... made. :) and of course gotta love comercial-zapped shows
[04:44] <jbasilio> dr_willis: stinks that i had to bring windows into my house after a 6 years w/o it ... but meh
[04:45] <jbasilio> dr_willis: yeah, myth had features NO commercial PVR has.  commercial zap was incredible
[04:45] <dr_willis> getting rdy to build a 2nd mythtv box for the wife.
[04:45] <dr_willis> problem i had with knoppmyth is that a simple 'apt-get upgrade' could break tghe system :)
[04:45] <heinkel_111> does anyone know if there is a flac _en_coding plugin for k3b?
[04:47] <dr_willis> Mythbunto
[04:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> ernie- is there a terminal command to test if audio is working?
[04:47] <dr_willis> mpg123 foo.mp3  :) is how ive done it in the past.
[04:47] <dr_willis> or some of the other audio player programs
[04:48] <|ericsson|> Note to self: have you mooed today?
[04:49] <dr_willis> fortune | cowsay
[04:49] <dr_willis> :)
[04:49] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_: you can go into your Systems Settings and click on Sound System...
[04:49] <miltom> hi
[04:49] <aleksanteri> !hi | miltom
[04:49] <ubotu> miltom: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh ernie another problem I have is I don't have a k-menu or systray
[04:49] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ There is a Test Button there - also make sure its set up in that too
[04:49] <miltom> thank
[04:49] <miltom> who are u?
[04:49] <|ericsson|> sudo apt-get moo
[04:49] <aleksanteri> !bot | miltom
[04:49] <ubotu> miltom: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> ernie yeah, I don't get any sound from that test button
[04:50] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ ahh ok - well then the sound issue might be a result of something else
[04:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> ernie: is there any way to install all of the 'base' packages in adept or apt?
[04:50] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ you dont have powered speakers that aint on - silly question - but you never know - I did that once
[04:51] <soulrider> dettoaltrimenti_: install kubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> ernie no I'm on a laptop and tey're built in
[04:51] <miltom> okay nice to meet u?
[04:51] <ar53n> hi everyone!
[04:51] <aleksanteri> !offtopic | miltom
[04:51] <ubotu> miltom: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:51] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ try what soulrider just put in
[04:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> I'll give it a try, thanks
[04:51] <ar53n> hi lespea!
[04:52] <ernie> dettoaltrimenti_ good luck with it :)
[04:52] <|ericsson|> aleksanteri: go easy on him ;)
[04:52] <aleksanteri> heh :P
[04:52] <miltom> I am trying to run ktorrent but i got server time out
[04:52] <aleksanteri> i see
[04:52] <miltom> I have yo router at all.. just dsl modem..
[04:52] <miltom> any tip
[04:52] <aleksanteri> the server might be down
[04:52] <miltom> by the way I am new at linux
[04:53] <miltom> all the time?
[04:53] <aleksanteri> uhh
[04:54] <linux_> ubuntu en espaol
[04:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:55] <ar53n> Hey everyone i need a bit of help!
[04:55] <linux_> gracias
[04:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> de nada
[04:55] <ar53n> I am new to kubuntu and i dont know how to download amsn
[04:55] <telemako> hi there
[04:55] <ar53n> When i try to do it i have a message saying '' this is a binary file the file may be corrupt ''
[04:56] <ar53n> hi ^
[04:56] <amigrave> is it possible to use the kubuntu install cd in order to boot on a hard drive kubuntu partition .
[04:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> ar53n- Kopete is a good chat program that you can use with msn
[04:56] <miltom> go to aplications- add /remove
[04:57] <heinkel_111> !flac
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <ar53n> Oh i'll try it , thanx dettoaltimenti
[04:57] <ar53n> ill be back in 5 min
[04:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> ar52n: are you using adept to install packages?
[04:57] <telemako> just installed Kubuntu Feisty and KNetworkManager is unable to connect to my wifi, I managed to connect via command line but Konqueror does not connecto to any web and apt-get update freezes at some servers, any help please?
[04:58] <smile> hi .. i want make a screen capture movie .. is there any software to do this ?
[04:58] <smile> i can do it undr windows
[04:58] <telemako> smile google recordmydesktop
[04:58] <ar53n> What is adept?
[04:59] <|ericsson|> !adept | ar53n
[04:59] <ubotu> ar53n: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:59] <telemako> its for kubuntu/ubuntu
[04:59] <ar53n> Because i'm new to kubuntu i've downloaded it yesterdayyy
[04:59] <smile> ar53n: adept is a software manager
[04:59] <smile> telemako: for linux ?
[04:59] <telemako> yes
[04:59] <ar53n> oh ! thanx ill read the how to
[05:00] <smile> telemako: thx :-)
[05:00] <|ericsson|> ar53n: always a good starting point, and in addition to that you always have the man pages for more info
[05:00] <jussi01> can someone tell me how to install the low latency kernel?
[05:00] <|ericsson|> jussi01: apt-get install bloody-low-latency-kernel :)
[05:01] <jussi01> !omg | |ericsson|
[05:01] <telemako> Just installed kubuntu feisty via CD, KNetworkManager does not connect to my wifi, I managed to connect manually but apt-get update freezes at some servers and I cant see any web using Konqueror, but Konversation does work. Anyone knows why? Any help please?
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about omg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <jussi01> pah...
[05:01] <athena> what's the low latency kernel do?
[05:01] <|ericsson|> heh..
[05:02] <jussi01> |ericsson|: :P stupid bot...
[05:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> ar53n- you should use adept to download all your programs- it's as easy as point and click, no downloading files necessary
[05:02] <jussi01> |ericsson|: I had a feeling there was more to it than that...
[05:02] <|ericsson|> jussi01: he/she/it tends to be a bit of a drag sometimes.. ;)
[05:02] <savetheWorld> athena: it answers very quickly
[05:02] <athena> savetheWorld, answers... what?
[05:02] <|ericsson|> jussi01: you would think so :))
[05:03] <savetheWorld> athena: typically an interrupt.
[05:03] <athena> hmm, are there any disadvantages to using low latency kernels instead of the default one?
[05:04] <ar53n> OK
[05:05] <ar53n> i've just readed the how to for adept manager. If i understand , adept allow you to download all the program avaible for kubuntu right?
[05:07] <|ericsson|> ar53n: that is correct, and not only kubuntu, but for (x)ubuntu as well
[05:07] <ar53n> Oh well , thanx
[05:08] <|ericsson|> ar53n: the easiest way to install something is to type: sudo apt-get install $PROGRAM where $PROGRAM is the name of the program
[05:08] <_Shade_> |ericsson|: well in my opinion it DOES NOT provide all the packages available
[05:08] <GWillakers> I booted my machine this morning (feisty) and all I got was a black screen.  The logs revealed that it didn't find a display device.  Something hosed my xorg.conf file.  My question is why/what/how is my xorg.conf file being overwritten?
[05:08] <|ericsson|> _Shade_: adept and apt is enough imo
[05:09] <_Shade_> for example: today i was going to install unrar and i had to install it by synaptic - the adept frontend doesn't display it
[05:09] <jussi01> GWillakers: did you recently install beryl/compiz?
[05:09] <GWillakers> I've been running Beryl since day 1.
[05:09] <|ericsson|> ar53n: you can look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for information regarding packages/programs
[05:10] <ar53n> ok thanx! ^
[05:10] <Rythan> Hello... just yesterday, Kubuntu Fiesty stopped seeing my Logitech MX1000 mouse. It does not show up in /dev/input/by-id. The mouse works fine in Windows oon the same machine. Suggestions?
[05:10] <GWillakers> I love beryl but it isn't as stable on feisty as it is on pclinuxos (for me).
[05:10] <|ericsson|> _Shade_: there are cases where that happends, sureley..
[05:11] <|ericsson|> _Shade_: personally I would do just fine without debians dpkg :)
[05:12] <_Shade_> oh by the way... i'd like to make a simple frontend for apt... are there any websites which might help? i know i have to call libapt library but i have no such programming skills, and i'd like to learn myself a bit :)
[05:14] <jussi01> _Shade_: unrar appears fine in adept for me
[05:15] <_Shade_> jussi01: lucky you then... :) for me it doesn't show any entries
[05:15] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with VMWare?
[05:16] <pag> !info unrar
[05:16] <livingdaylight> do i download an iso and open it with vmware?
[05:16] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[05:16] <Dragnslcr> _Shade_- make sure you have the multiverse repository included
[05:16] <jussi01> _Shade_: obvious question, are you sure you have all your repos active?
[05:16] <jussi01> heh
[05:16] <livingdaylight> for VMware should i download the livecd or alternate iso?
[05:17] <jussi01> livingdaylight: either should work
[05:17] <jussi01> livingdaylight: but i would go alternate
[05:17] <livingdaylight> jussi01, ok, thanks
[05:17] <blekos> could u tell me how to create a full system backup with tar?
[05:17] <_Shade_> jussi01: well to be honest... i haven't checked it yet, but i suppose i have seeing synaptic in action ;)
[05:18] <ernie> livingdaylight - are you going to instal the VMWare Server on Feisty
[05:18] <aimilios> hi
[05:18] <aimilios> all
[05:18] <shawn34> Help! I'm setting up localpurge, should i select en_US? or all en?
[05:18] <livingdaylight> ernie, yes
[05:18] <livingdaylight> ernie, i've got Ubuntu feisty here and wanna test kubuntu and other distros with VMware
[05:19] <shawn34> anyone?
[05:19] <ernie> livingdaylight - there are a few little issues with getting that going but I wont be around for much longer - Search the forums - the answers are there
[05:20] <livingdaylight> ernie, oh, shux :s
[05:20] <livingdaylight> what are the issues roughly?
[05:21] <ernie> livingdaylight - you'll need g++ installed
[05:21] <livingdaylight> k
[05:22] <_Shade_> does anyone know any good basic interpreter such as gambas?
[05:22] <jussi01> ok, next obvious question...
[05:22] <jussi01> cause im lazy, how do i update grub...
[05:22] <ernie> Search for this - vmware-any-any-update109 - it might take you to the right forum postings quickly
[05:23] <jussi01> !info gambas
[05:23] <ubotu> gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 954 kB, installed size 2228 kB
[05:23] <ejupin> Help: I rebooted my system and now I am in low res., 640x I cant get back to by higher res.. What happened>fix?
[05:23] <pag> jussi01, do you mean: sudo update-grub ?
[05:23] <eljefe> ejupin what did you do before the reboot?
[05:24] <ejupin> nothing., shut down normally
[05:24] <eljefe> ejupin: have you looked in the System Settings to try to raise your resolutions back to what you'd like it to be?
[05:24] <jussi01> pag: yeah, that one... :P
[05:24] <ejupin> eljefe:yep, the higher res setting isnt there, only goes as high as 640
[05:24] <heinkel_111> if i multiboot my machine with kubuntu feisty 32 and kubuntu feisty 64 is it safe to use same /home partition ofr 64 and 32?
[05:25] <eljefe> ejupin: not sure mate but i can help you
[05:25] <heinkel_111> if i multiboot my machine with kubuntu feisty 32 and kubuntu feisty 64 is it safe to use same /home partition for 64 and 32?
[05:25] <pag> heinkel_111, yes, I think it is
[05:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok I installed kubuntu-desktop, and my sound works now, but I still don't have a systray or k menu
[05:25] <ubuntu_> can't one just manipulate the .xorg.conf to get a higher resolution?
[05:25] <ubuntu_> :o
[05:25] <heinkel_111> pag: based on what?
[05:25] <eljefe> ejupin: first you have to remember what i am about to tell you since you won't ba able to come back here!
[05:25] <ejupin> ubuntu_:how would i try that?
[05:26] <ForMatter> Last day i heared that kubuntu is wrong product for kde and gnome combination..Is that true..?
[05:26] <pag> heinkel_111, I don't think that configuration files differ between two arch's
[05:26] <ernie>  livingdaylight - also read up on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2013036  = should get you started
[05:27] <livingdaylight> thx ernie
[05:27] <eljefe> ejupin: you'll have to hit [ctrl] [alt] [f2]  to get to a command line.  log in there.  then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' at the command prompt and answer its questions.  then when it is done and you're back at the command prompt, reboot the computer and let us know what happened, if it is fixed... it shuld be!
[05:28] <ubuntu_> ejupin: try 'man xorg.conf' in your console :P
[05:28] <ubuntu_> or just open it with vim and edit it...
[05:28] <ernie> livingdaylight good luck with it - its worth the hassle
[05:28] <eljefe> ejupin: from the command line, a reboot is done with 'sudo reboot' (again, no quotes)
[05:29] <kekko_> where would log for packages that fail to execute (for whatever reson) go ?
[05:29] <livingdaylight> ernie, i'm sure, although i'm a bit averse to hassle
[05:30] <ernie> livingdaylight you'll be right - if you strike a problem  - check the forums - I finally found everything on there to get up and running
[05:30] <ejupin> elejfe:thanks will give it a try..
[05:30] <ernie> Well I'm off to bed before the sun comes up - night all
[05:31] <eljefe> ejupin: or do as ubuntu_ says, and edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and find the places in that file where it discusses 32bit colour depth, also 24 and 16 bit depths, and add the resolution that you want into the area there where each colour depth has its optional resolutions.  make the one you want fisrt in that list.  THAT can be done without the console work, and you can even restart the xserver from the login prompt for KDE/Kubuntu
[05:32] <jussi01> ok, next question... i have 2 ubuntu flavours and windows on the machine. the machine uses the ubuntu grub, not the kubuntu grub. how do i make it use the kubuntu grub again...
[05:32] <eljefe> ejupin: you can get out of the command prompt area and back here with [ctrl] [alt] [f7]  but I wouldn't make your graphics do any work while you are busy messing with them in the [ctrl] [alt] [f2]  area...
[05:33] <fdoving> jussi01: in konsole, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[05:33] <Tm_T> jussi01: err?
[05:33] <eljefe> jussi01: i have no idea, what is the difference between the two?  just the looks of it?  aren't they just lines of text to choose from, i don't recall graphics on them ever...
[05:33] <Tm_T> jussi01: two grubs?!
[05:33] <jussi01> Tm_T: caterpillars... :P
[05:33] <pag> jussi01, sudo grub-install /dev/sda from the kubuntu partition?
[05:33] <jussi01> nah... maggots..
[05:34] <fdoving> jussi01: you have installed both kde and gnome in one linux install, right? you don't have one partition with each system on?
[05:34] <ar53n> RE!
[05:34] <jussi01> no, i have 2 partitions
[05:34] <ar53n> Oh pag hi! =D
[05:34] <jussi01> well 3 including windows
[05:34] <Tm_T> jussi01: you really should explain better your situation, I really hope you don't have two different *Ubuntu installs, that sounds stupid
[05:34] <pag> ar53n, hello :)
[05:34] <jussi01> Tm_T: there is a good reason for it :P
[05:35] <Tm_T> jussi01: err, ok, then, what does it matter what grub it uses?
[05:35] <dettto> ar53n did you check out adept?
[05:35] <ar53n> Yes i do!
[05:35] <ar53n> It works great !
[05:35] <ar53n> ps pag : my kubuntu installation worked ^^
[05:35] <dettto> and that is the number 1 reason why linux is better than windows
[05:35] <Tm_T> jussi01: it's just grub anyway
[05:36] <ar53n> Now im just trying to figure out how eveyrthing works!
[05:36] <pag> ar53n, congratulations :) I hope you like it ;-)
[05:36] <ar53n> yup ! its pretty nice ^
[05:36] <jussi01> Tm_T: its more of i dont want to go and play in the other one right now - it still needs some sorting out, but i want my new kernel  to show up...
[05:36] <ar53n> =p
[05:36] <eljefe> anyone know the difference between Xubuntu and Xubuntu alternate CD?
[05:36] <Tm_T> jussi01: interesting, well, go to that one which you like to use and reinstall grub :)
[05:36] <pag> eljefe, installation method; alternate is text-based
[05:37] <ar53n> I think alternate cd is for advanced user
[05:37] <ar53n> ya
[05:37] <ar53n> textbased ^^
[05:37] <Tm_T> ar53n: it's just as simple as gui version
[05:37] <pag> ar53n, it's really easy to use
[05:37] <ar53n> Little fast question , is the a place where i can see all my hard drive , cd ect.... ? just like in windows ...=/
[05:37] <dettto> eljefe- the live cd is to install xubuntu, it has the bare minimum of what you need to get going, and xubuntu alternate has some of the most common apps
[05:37] <ar53n> oups sorry ^^
[05:37] <pag> ar53n, maybe in /media ?
[05:38] <dettto> ar53n- 'dolphin' should be in your k-menu
[05:38] <ar53n> mmm i dont see any dolphin
[05:39] <dettto> do you see... Konqueror?
[05:39] <ar53n> ya
[05:39] <Tm_T> ar53n: media:/ in konqueror perhaps ;)
[05:39] <pag> ar53n, if you have Dolphin installed, then it can be found at kmenu->system->dolphin
[05:39] <dettto> ar53n- that will work. Your main partition is in '/' and cds, dvds and other hard drives and usb drives, stuff like that, they're all in /media
[05:40] <Tm_T> dettto: well, that doesn't explain if there is separate /sys or /home or /usr
[05:40] <Tm_T> or /home/media/foo/bar
[05:40] <Tm_T> or whatever ;)
[05:40] <ar53n> ok , in konqueror i see all my file in my hard drive and stuff but
[05:40] <dettto> I don't think he has a separate partition for those
[05:41] <Tm_T> dettto: how would you know
[05:41] <Tm_T> ar53n: media:/ should show most of partitions, I hope
[05:41] <ar53n> is it possible to see like , all the drive i have and my hard drive , see how much space i have left ect...
[05:41] <pag> ar53n, in terminal: df -h
[05:42] <Tm_T> wow, media:/ is crippled :(
[05:42] <dettto> ar53n- if you go into adept and install Dolphin, it shows you at the bottom of the screen in dolphin. Another way to do it is in the terminal type 'df -h'
[05:42] <fdoving> ar53n: right click -> properties on any file/folder will give you free disk space info.
[05:43] <ar53n> OK it works with the terminal but ill try dolphin 2 sec ( btw thx ^^ )
[05:44] <ForMatter> Last day i heared that kubuntu is wrong product for kde and gnome combination..Is that true..?
[05:44] <eljefe_> ejupin: any luck mate?
[05:45] <fdoving> ForMatter: who told you that? and was there any reason given?
[05:45] <ejupin> eljefe: all I got was a dpkg menu, nothing there about reconfiguring the xserver
[05:45] <ar53n> i've ask for the installation but i cant apply the change
[05:45] <dettto> ar53n- do you only have one instance of Adept running?
[05:46] <UltimaDude> Hello
[05:46] <ar53n> no i have 2
[05:46] <ar53n> should i close the other one?
[05:46] <UltimaDude> I Have a question
[05:46] <eljefe_> ForMatter: its probably a preference thing; some people prefer Slackware etc for its high-configurability, and they may say that they can make it better two have both KDe and GNOME.  I think K/Ubuntu is just fine for both tho.
[05:46] <UltimaDude> How do I Upgrade to final feisty
[05:46] <ForMatter> Fdoving: because when i installing an application,there need a lib..But when i start the application,it can start normally..
[05:46] <fdoving> ForMatter: you need to explain better.
[05:47] <ar53n> Oh i've closed one adept and it works now thanx detto
[05:47] <eljefe_> ejupin: not sure what happened.  you ran 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and it was just dpkg ?  You can also manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf; just add your resolution as the first in each of the 32bit colour, 24bit, and 16bit colour areas.  then save it (make a back up before anything is changed of course) and restart your X from the KDE login menu...
[05:47] <dettto> np
[05:48] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:48] <ejupin> eljefe_:thanks, will play some more
[05:48] <eljefe_> ar53n: only one will work, they lock the needed files to prevent another instance from messing up the first.  so yes, close one... maybe both and start again
[05:50] <ar53n> Yes it works now thanx eljefe
[05:50] <ar53n> BTW dolphin = nice
[05:50] <ar53n> now since im a gamer im wonderingggg
[05:50] <ar53n> how do i install wine?
[05:50] <ar53n> XDDDDDDDDDDDD
[05:50] <dettto> ar53n- go into adept, type wine, install
[05:51] <ForMatter> Fdoving: what i must doing,my wifi signal cant connecting to the internet across ap in my campus..But when i use ubuntu,it can work properly..
[05:51] <fdoving> ForMatter: that sounds strange. do you have kubuntu version 7.04 ?
[05:51] <ar53n> libwine and libwine -dev?
[05:52] <dettto> there should be a package called 'wine' and if you install that, it will install everything you need
[05:52] <ForMatter> Fdoving: No,i dont have..What can i do with kubuntu 7.04..
[05:52] <dettto> and any package ending in -dev is development files, you don't need those unless you're a programmer
[05:52] <blekos> i've installed a deb file but dont know how to run it, i type the first word and then tab but nothing relevant appears
[05:53] <ar53n> the only file they show me libwine libewine -dev and winefish
[05:53] <fdoving> ForMatter: you can try to install the package 'knetworkmanager' in order for Kubuntu to handle the wifi networking the same way Ubuntu does.
[05:53] <ar53n> oh ok
[05:53] <mbailey> here is what I do on ubuntu to get wine working for my game.  Your Mileage may vary.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283122
[05:54] <wetermvd> i'm fucking hungry
[05:54] <Goliath23> hi
[05:54] <mbailey> although, I modified the script because you don't need the mouse patch, and the lighting patch with 0.9.36
[05:54] <hauppage> hi, what's required to play Divx movies ?
[05:54] <wetermvd> Vista
[05:55] <ar53n> wtffff
[05:55] <Goliath23> how do I enable the video preview in konqueror and dolphin on kubuntu? just fiddling with the konqueror settings doesn't make it work for videos :(
[05:55] <wetermvd> :P
[05:55] <ar53n> i dont understand xD
[05:55] <ar53n> couldnt just i install libwine from adept?
[05:55] <ar53n> XD
[05:55] <dettto> ar53n, is there no 'wine' package? on my computer, libwine is just a dummy package
[05:56] <mbailey> actually, you would probably want wine.
[05:56] <ar53n> no i dont have any wine wait ill try something
[05:56] <mbailey> apt-cache search wine
[05:56] <ForMatter> Fdoving: but,in kubuntu 6.10 there's a wireless network manager..Is that cant work properly..
[05:56] <dettto> ar53n have you enabled the multiverse/universe repositories yet?
[05:57] <theshadow> Alright, I accidently removed my task bar and my trash can icon. How do I get those back?
[05:57] <dettto> theshadow- right click, add applet to panel
[05:57] <hauppage> hi, what's required to play Divx movies ?
[05:58] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hauppage : you need the DiVX codec
[05:58] <ar53n> what is multiverse unierse repositories...
[05:58] <_Shade_> can someone help me a bit with gambas?
[05:58] <ar53n> =(
[05:58] <jussi01> !resticted | hauppage
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <jussi01> !restricted | hauppage
[05:58] <ubotu> hauppage: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
 ok but xvid whould be ok?
[05:59] <pag> !universe | ar53n
[05:59] <ubotu> ar53n: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:59] <ar53n> ok ill read this brbr thx!
[06:00] <theshadow> dettto: thank you ... I've been trying to figure it out for like an hour :S
[06:00] <dettto> theshadow np the same thing happened to me today
[06:00] <hauppage> m ok
[06:00] <hauppage> just a thing
[06:00] <hauppage> since oot user sems disabled how do i enable ?
[06:00] <hauppage> *root
[06:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hauppage: use sudo
[06:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> !sudo | hauppage
[06:01] <ubotu> hauppage: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:01] <hauppage> and it is enough ? i just installed kubuntu and changed nothing of config if i do sudo passwd root
[06:01] <hauppage> it will enable root user ?
[06:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> it's not recommended
[06:02] <hauppage> or u just mean: for every root need just call sud .... cmd ... ?
[06:02] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[06:02] <hauppage> but i would like to se root enabled
[06:02] <jussi01> hauppage: yeah, just use sudo for anything root
[06:02] <fyrmedic> How do I set default gateway for internet access at comand prompt
[06:02] <mc__> fyrmedic: route add default gw IP
[06:03] <dettto> fyrmedic- 'man ifconfig'
[06:04] <lupo> Is it possible to get compiz to change viewports by rolling the mouse wheel on the desktop?
[06:04] <lupo> This is possible in kde by having multiple desktops and enabling wheel-mouse switching
[06:04] <fyrmedic> thank
[06:06] <_Shade_> every time i want to open some example projects in gambas it says that it cannot load a class file "xxxxxx". What can i do about it?
[06:08] <jaims> hello
[06:08] <jaims> i've got sort of problem with samba and ssh
[06:08] <jaims> is there a more specific channel for this question?
[06:09] <|ericsson|> !pastebin
[06:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <jaims> something weird
[06:09] <cWolfe> depends, whats the problem
[06:09] <jaims> i'll try to explain
[06:09] <madcrax> i updated to feisty and now i get the message "sorry, the program ... closed unexpectedly" all the time with all kind of programs given - but they don not really seem to have crashed
[06:10] <jaims> if I want to put a file from kubuntu to windows xp throug fish (not having mounted anything) it takes ages
[06:10] <jaims> the thing is that the transfer speed starts nice, 26 kb/s
[06:10] <jaims> but little by little decreases to 0
[06:10] <jaims> and after a while, starts 26 kb/s again, and decreases to 0 again
[06:11] <jaims> and again and again
[06:11] <jaims> :)
[06:11] <cWolfe> jaims, is one of those computers on wifi, because i have the same problem sometimes
[06:11] <ar53n> re
[06:11] <jaims> nope
[06:11] <|ericsson|> Could anyone help me out with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19465/ ?
[06:11] <jaims> lan
[06:11] <jaims> the weird thing is that
[06:11] <jaims> i've installed feisty in my laptop
[06:12] <jaims> and when from that laptop i connect to my kubuntu throug ssh, something similar happens
[06:12] <jaims> 5 Mb takes ages to transfer
[06:12] <jaims> and the speed of that transfer follows a pattern like the one i've described
[06:12] <jaims> it starts quickly
[06:12] <ar53n> i dont think i have the same version that on the website you gave me because its not the same menu , but anyway my multiverse and universe are enable
[06:12] <jaims> decreases
[06:12] <jaims> ...
[06:13] <cWolfe> hmm, i got nothing for ya jaims , i cant even think of way to start ruling things out
[06:13] <Goliath23> any idea hot to make video preview icons work in kde again0
[06:13] <Goliath23> ?
[06:13] <Goliath23> do I need a special package?
[06:13] <jaims> yes cWolfe
[06:13] <pag> |ericsson|, are you sure you don't have any postfix-processes running?
[06:13] <jaims> that's what i expected: hard to find some help
[06:13] <cWolfe> Goliath23, in edgy, i could do it
[06:13] <jaims> as i've been spenting lot of hours through the internet and forums and all
[06:13] <jaims> to no avail
[06:13] <frojnd> hello guys how can I make that 2.6.20-15-generic will be before 2.6.20.7 on my grub list?? here is my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19466/
[06:14] <cWolfe> well, jaims it doesnt seem limited to just samba
[06:14] <jaims> nope
[06:14] <|ericsson|> pag: yes, no postfix running as far as I'm aware
[06:14] <Goliath23> cWolfe: in edgy mine worked, too, but not in feisty anymore.
[06:14] <jaims> at first i thought that it was bcause samba, as i found some users having troubles
[06:14] <cWolfe> yeah, i wish mine worked too
[06:14] <jaims> but now i think it's due to something in my desktop
[06:14] <pag> |ericsson|, ps -A |grep postfix  ?
[06:15] <jaims> cause my laptop/feisty against winxp its working nice!
[06:15] <|ericsson|> pag: netstat -tap shows that ldap is running if that could affect..
[06:15] <Cnl_Delta> hi which works better, virtual box or vmware server
[06:15] <jaims> but i cant figure what is the problem
[06:15] <jaims> :(
[06:15] <|ericsson|> pag: output:  7536 ?  00:00:00 postfix.config
[06:15] <cWolfe> Cnl_Delta, i dunno, but windoze is taking forever to install in qemu using kvm :)
[06:15] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[06:16] <cWolfe> vmware is a nice package
[06:16] <pag> |ericsson|, hmm.. try to kill that one, maybe it'll help
[06:16] <|ericsson|> pag: so kill and it became defunct
[06:16] <cWolfe> i never used virtualbox
[06:16] <jaims> ive made a post in ubuntuforums
[06:16] <cWolfe> jaims, thats prolly the best ything to do :)
[06:16] <jaims> if i'm lucky some day ill find my answer
[06:16] <|ericsson|> pag: but now I can't purge postfix since it's not installed :/
[06:16] <jaims> cWolfe: thanks
[06:16] <david__> wolfe
[06:17] <jaims> i'll be keeping my quest
[06:17] <david__> you play to wolfenstein enemy territory?
[06:17] <cWolfe> good luck ;)
[06:17] <jaims> ty
[06:17] <jaims> :)
[06:17] <cWolfe> i used to
[06:17] <Graham> david__: Ooo! I like that game.
[06:17] <ar53n> im goin in the shower ill brbr
[06:17] <pag> |ericsson|, I don't know :-/ Install it first?
[06:17] <ar53n> ENEMY TERRITORY IS THE PWN
[06:17] <Graham> Used to make maps for it, good days... good days...
[06:17] <cWolfe> its that time of the year again?
[06:17] <ar53n> anyway g2g shower brb
[06:17] <david__> you play?
[06:17] <david__> you have clan?
[06:18] <jaims> et is nice yeah
[06:18] <|ericsson|> pag: haha, yeah, I'm doing that now :))
[06:18] <cWolfe> no, and thats not on-topic anyways
[06:18] <jaims> bye all, and thanks
[06:18] <|ericsson|> you can always visit #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <Graham> Am I bothered?
[06:19] <|ericsson|> Graham: probably not, but bear in mind this is a support channel though
[06:19] <david__> Graham: you play to wolf et?
[06:19] <Graham> Sort of, not played it in ages.
[06:20] <Graham> I've been playing Quake 2 lately.
[06:20] <Graham> Linux is supposed to work with raid discs isn't it?
[06:21] <|ericsson|> pag: take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19472/
[06:21] <biovore> hardware raid it dose.. (the on board nvidia/intel/sillicion image are software raid)
[06:22] <witchdoctor> hi, i'm trying to figure out what i'm doing wrong: i just downloaded the kubuntu live cd and started the installer...and it hangs at prepare disk space...with hangs i mean: the scanning disks progress bar finishes and i'm presented with an empty window with only the cancel button enabled...
[06:22] <Graham> I tried installing Kubuntu on my mates PC, totally fucked up. During install it couldn't see that the 2 sata drives were formatted as a huge NTFS partition.
[06:22] <irvken> I've been trying to get 3d working on my ati radeon 9200, but when I launch googleearth it just says "initialising2 and freezes
[06:22] <irvken> "initialising"
[06:23] <irvken> anyone know what might be going on
[06:23] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Grahm: NTFS support in Kubuntu's spotty at best
[06:23] <pag> |ericsson|, well.. you could check for running processes again :-/
[06:23] <biovore> irvken: ati has problems
[06:23] <irvken> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:23] <irvken> I've been working through this
[06:23] <irvken> first the feisty fawn install
[06:24] <irvken> and then when that didn't work the Edgy Eft
[06:24] <|ericsson|> pag: the only thing running now is the <defunct> postfix and that one I can't get rid of..
[06:24] <irvken> biovore, I know, but I did have it working in Debian once
[06:24] <lupul> is there some software for feisty like daemon tools on windows?
[06:24] <pag> |ericsson|, hmm.. sudo kill -9 <process id>  that'll probably get rid of it :)
[06:25] <biovore> I use nvidia because ATI has bad linux support in my opinion..
[06:25] <|ericsson|> pag: do you know what whiptail is?
[06:25] <lupul> biovore is right
[06:25] <lupul> ati suxx when it comes to drivers
[06:25] <pag> |ericsson|, sorry, no I don't
[06:25] <|ericsson|> pag: whiptail is running 90% CPU constantly now...
[06:25] <irvken> some people must have it running
[06:25] <biovore> lupul: you can mount an iso image like a cd.. mount -o loop image.iso /mountr/poiunt
[06:25] <lupul> i know
[06:25] <witchdoctor> someone have any ideas for me? (see above)
[06:25] <lupul> but i have a cue image
[06:26] <lupul> and a .ape one
[06:26] <biovore> lupul: This works for any disk image :-P
[06:26] <biovore> lupul: oh.. look for the .bin file?
[06:26] <lupul> and it says to me that i have to specify the filesystem type
[06:26] <|ericsson|> pag: kill -9 didn't get rid of it :/
[06:26] <lupul> no bin
[06:26] <lupul> just ape,  and cue
[06:27] <biovore> lupul: may not be a disk image.. Some other kind of format..
[06:27] <witchdoctor> ah, nm...it just displayed something...after about 10 minutes
[06:27] <lupul> it's image
[06:27] <lupul> i have a dvd with some images of cd's
[06:27] <Rythan> Jjust yesterday, Kubuntu Fiesty stopped seeing my Logitech MX1000 mouse. It does not show up in /dev/input/by-id. The mouse works fine in Windows oon the same machine. Suggestions?
[06:27] <lupul> and i need something to mount them
[06:27] <pag> |ericsson|, That's strange. Sorry, but things are getting beyond my understanding :-/
[06:28] <|ericsson|> pag:
[06:28] <|ericsson|> whiptail  is  a program that will let you to present a variety of questions
[06:28] <|ericsson|>  or display messages using dialog boxes from a shell script.
[06:28] <kekks> from a shell how do you launch the graphical interfaceof ubuntu?
[06:28] <biovore> lupul: the .cue file is a text file.. what data file dose it say to write...
[06:28] <|ericsson|> pag: could that one be locking the process then?
[06:28] <pag> |ericsson|, ok :)
[06:28] <witchdoctor> kekks: maybe try startx
[06:28] <kekks> witchdoctor: thx!
[06:28] <irvken> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".   I think this might be the problem - anyone know how to fix it?
[06:29] <pag> |ericsson|, it *might* be, but I'm not sure at all anymore :)
[06:29] <|ericsson|> pag: same as me then...trial & error stage :)
[06:29] <lupul> cdimage.wav?
[06:29] <lupul> that's what says there
[06:30] <Rythan> Is this thing on?
[06:30] <witchdoctor> hm...i think my setup may be a bit overwhelming to the installer...5 HDDs, divided into 30GB fat32 partitions...at least i hope the explanation is that simple :P
[06:30] <Goliath23> cWolfe: installing libarts1-xine might help!
[06:31] <biovore> lupul: well basicly I don't think you can mount it, its not a True disk image..
[06:31] <lupul> i figured that out
[06:31] <lupul> damn
[06:31] <lupul> i'll try something else
[06:31] <biovore> .iso and sometimes .bin can get loop mounted because there just raw disk image.
[06:31] <cWolfe> Goliath23, i already have that installed
[06:31] <lupul> in ehe end is there any program like daemon tools
[06:32] <lupul> ?
[06:32] <Rythan> Can anyone help me why Fiesty stopped seeing my MX1000 mouse?
[06:32] <cWolfe> Goliath23, i lied
[06:32] <Cnl_Delta> hi how do i change my cdburner from being mounted as floppy?
[06:32] <Goliath23> cWolfe: they work now for me. in dolphin, too
[06:32] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: is it a wireless mouse/
[06:32] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ?
[06:33] <Rythan> Yes ...
[06:33] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: cdrom being mounted as a floppy?
[06:33] <Rythan> ? BellaireLinuxN3r
[06:33] <_Shade_> i cannot connect using krfb... what might be the reason?
[06:33] <cWolfe> Goliath23, it works
[06:33] <cWolfe> :)
[06:33] <cWolfe> good job
[06:33] <Cnl_Delta> my cdrom is mounted as /media/floppy0
[06:33] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r : Yes it is a wiresless laser mouse
[06:33] <cWolfe> add to FAQ
[06:33] <Goliath23> cWolfe: you're welcome :)
[06:33] <Cnl_Delta> and virtual box needs it as dev/cdrom or dev/hdc
[06:33] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: did you go to device manager and look for it?
[06:33] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: dose it work other wise?
[06:34] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: this in vmware?
[06:34] <Cnl_Delta> it works biovore, but i can't do stuff with it till i change the mount points
[06:34] <Cnl_Delta> its in normal kubuntu
[06:34] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: The mouse does not show up in /dev/input/by-id ... it was working untill yesterday
[06:34] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: The mouse works fine on the same machine in Windows ... so it is not a connection issue
[06:34] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: put a cdrom in and after the os mounts it pop open a shell and type mount
[06:34] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: input this into the terminal and see what happens "ls dev/imput/mouse"
[06:34] <Cnl_Delta> i need to change the mount point to use it in virtual box unless i treat it as a floppy in virtual box
[06:34] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: what device dose it say it mounted
[06:35] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: input instead of imput, sorry
[06:35] <Cnl_Delta> burner sony mounted as /media/floppy0
[06:35] <MementoMori> hi all
[06:35] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: I am in windows at the moment :(
[06:35] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh okay
[06:35] <MementoMori> where can I find vmware server for dapper?
[06:35] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: but /dev/input/mouse does exist
[06:35] <Cnl_Delta>  /dev/fd0
[06:36] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: weird..
[06:36] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: never seen anything that dose that..
[06:36] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: This a viao?
[06:36] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: as well as ,ouse0, mouse1, and mouse2 depending on if the MS optical mouse is hooked up
[06:36] <Cnl_Delta> hmm its /media/cdrom0 now
[06:36] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: have you tried other mice, to see if Linux can see them?
[06:37] <Cnl_Delta> is there a way to change it to /dev/cdrom
[06:37] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: my ms optical mouse is detected fine
[06:37] <Cnl_Delta> i know i gotta edit just one file
[06:37] <biovore> Cnl_Delta: well /dev/cdrom is a symlink
[06:37] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: but not configured in X, so X fails to start
[06:38] <ar53n> Hey i have a little technical question , is kubuntu using more power than windows xp? ( i mean , does it take more cpu n ram to make it run )
[06:38] <Cnl_Delta> less cpu and a bit more ram with linux
[06:38] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Let me get the MS mouse working in X and I'll pop back in here? Okay?
[06:38] <BellaireLinuxN3r> k
[06:38] <ar53n> okay thx ^
[06:39] <ar53n> btw , how can ia change de visual theme of kubuntu? i wanna change the color a bit
[06:39] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: I think desktop effects or appearance, I don't remember which one
[06:39] <ar53n> OK thx!
[06:40] <pag> ar53n, system settings -> appearance
[06:40] <ar53n> thx pagh
[06:40] <ar53n> *pag
[06:40] <ar53n> +D
[06:40] <ar53n> <3
[06:41] <|ericsson|> pag: It was something with whiptail causing problems, killing it solved it..
[06:42] <pag> |ericsson|, great :) congratulations :D
[06:42] <makki> hi rpedro
[06:43] <jrick> I'm a bit confused with a program called Kompile.  Everytime I want to install something from source, it won't let me configure the program.  Also weird: I checked the documentation, and in order to 'use it correctly', I need KDE 1.1 installed.
[06:43] <Cugel> KDE 1.1 should be the minimum, I suppose.
[06:44] <biovore> jrick: you have all devel stuff install
[06:44] <jrick> um?
[06:44] <jrick> what packages?
[06:45] <biovore> well if you compiling a QT3 or QT4 program, you need kdesdk package
[06:45] <korobase> Does any one know any jobs worked on the internet?
[06:47] <jrick> that's a lot of packages.
[06:47] <biovore> rgr.. all the dev stuff for xorg and kde
[06:48] <jrick> but actually, I was trying to install pidgin, which is GTK+
[06:48] <biovore> jrick: hmm there is a gtk version..  ask in #ubuntu
[06:48] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Back
[06:48] <biovore> I wonder whats taking the packagers so long to get pidgin into the repos
[06:48] <jrick> well, I found a package, i just never got arround to asking until now.
[06:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: type "lsusb" into the terminal and check the output
[06:49] <jrick> wondering why it wasn't working
[06:49] <Rythan> Bell it shows up there
[06:50] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Oops .. it shows up there
[06:50] <BellaireLinuxN3r> the logitech mouse or the ms optical?
[06:50] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: But the name has changed from the time it was first setup?
[06:50] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Both
[06:50] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: that's okay, you have two mice connected, right?
[06:50] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Yes
[06:51] <ar53n> Hey i have a G7 mouse
[06:51] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Are you readu for this ... the Logitech is not in /dev/input, but it is working in X now ...
[06:51] <ar53n> how can i install drivers for it?
[06:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: so I looked around the internet, and it seems that wireless device support for mice and keyboards is kinda buggy at best
[06:51] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Ah ... no surprise there
[06:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: have you installed drivers for the wireless mouse?
[06:52] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: I am using evdev
[06:53] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: did you follow the instructions here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894
[06:53] <jrick> Kompile is unable to start sources configuration.  Installation failed! Would you like to see configuration log? [Yes/No] 
[06:53] <jrick> trying to install strigi.
[06:54] <BluesKaj> One of the knowledgeable linux guys in here mentioned a few days go that he uses ftp to connect to other pcs on his home LAN network...does anyone here use this method and is there tutorial for setting it up ?
[06:54] <biovore> BluesKaj: install proftp or vsftpd and use an ftp program to connect like smartftp on windows
[06:55] <reya276> heelo
[06:55] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: also try this tutorial http://aarongyes.com/guides/mx1000
[06:55] <reya276> hello
[06:55] <reya276> can anyone help me install Real Player 10
[06:55] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: The first one is the one I used to install the mouse originally
[06:55] <jrick> reya276: did you get Acrobat working?
[06:55] <BluesKaj> ok bivore , thx ...I'll take a look
[06:56] <reya276> I downloaded a bin file for it but I don't know how to install it
[06:56] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: okay
[06:56] <BluesKaj> err biovore
[06:56] <reya276> no I tried it again but it does not run still have a permission issue
[06:56] <jrick> huh, I had the same problem.
[06:56] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: I recommend that you stick to a wired mouse until support for wireless devices is better
[06:56] <reya276> yeah KPDF seems fine though
[06:57] <BellaireLinuxN3r> reya276: install it using the sudo command
[06:57] <jrick> realplayer... let me check in the repos...
[06:57] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Yeah ... it is just odd that it has been working since Herd 2 just fine ... and just yesterday it up and quit :)
[06:57] <Rythan> BellaireLinuxN3r: Thanks for your help
[06:57] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Rythan: no problem
[06:57] <reya276> install the real player using sudo command
[06:58] <jrick> not in standard repos, might be there if sources.list was edited.
[06:58] <BellaireLinuxN3r> reya276: "sudo <filepath of bin file>"
[06:58] <BellaireLinuxN3r> jrick: did you try the universe repository?
[06:59] <jrick> not yet
[06:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> jrick: it's probably in there
[07:00] <ar53n> anyone know where i can find drivers and stuff for my logitech G7? i've tryed locomo and another one but it doesnt seems to work
[07:01] <jrick> just enabled the multiverse and universe, let's check.
[07:02] <ar53n> thats what i've done
[07:02] <reya276> I get this messege "sudo: RealPlayer10GOLD: command not found"
[07:02] <BellaireLinuxN3r> reya276: you need the file path
[07:02] <Cnl_Delta> now y is my cd-rom refusing to manually eject?
[07:03] <jrick> reya276: ~/Desktop/<file>
[07:03] <jrick> nope, not in repos, unless i did something stupid
[07:03] <BellaireLinuxN3r> reya276: "sudo ~/desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin"
[07:03] <sdlnxgk> got a problem !!!  added KPF to share  some files then after I got back from the weekend decided to reboot to play some games and now the kicker crashes how can I get my kicker back !!!
[07:04] <Cugel> sdlnxgk: alt-f2 and type 'kicker'. Does it work?
[07:05] <reya276> I got this msg " sudo: /home/reya276/desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: command not found"
[07:05] <jrick> Desktop
[07:05] <jrick> not desktop
[07:05] <hdxx> does anybody know how to add a new protocol in firefox (sop://)
[07:05] <reya276> this is where my terminal is pointing to now (reya276@Ubuntu-desktop:~/Desktop$ )
[07:05] <sdlnxgk> Cugel tried that just gives a crash handler message and crashes again..
[07:05] <ar53n> !kubuntu fr
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <hdxx> !fr
[07:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:05] <Cugel> In that case... oops.
[07:06] <jrick> you entered the file path with ~/desktop, not ~/Desktop
[07:06] <ar53n> thx
[07:06] <jrick> it has to be capitalized
[07:06] <sdlnxgk> Cugel trying to figure out how to disable KPF so I can have my kicker back
[07:06] <Cugel> apt-get remove kpf would be too simple?
[07:06] <sdlnxgk> that is what I was just gonna try ;)
[07:07] <reya276> right I fix the Case but it gave me the same msg
[07:07] <jrick> it's on your Desktop, right?
[07:07] <Cugel> You could try to reinstall kicker, too (apt-get install reinstall or something?)
[07:07] <jrick> or your Home?
[07:07] <reya276> yes
[07:07] <jrick> what do the instructions on real's website say?
[07:08] <sdlnxgk> Cugel for what ever reason kicker has always crashed for me since  day one
[07:08] <sdlnxgk> about the only problem I have had with Kubuntu
[07:08] <sdlnxgk> yup that did the trick :)
[07:08] <reya276> is on my Desktop
[07:08] <jrick> let me check for a deb, hold on.
[07:08] <sdlnxgk> something it doesn't like about kpf before was the desktop viewer ;)
[07:08] <ar53n> i want peanut butter jeally
[07:09] <reya276> sure
[07:09] <MidMark> hi
[07:09] <Cugel> means you discovered a bug, really.
[07:10] <MidMark> why adding a printer from kde print doesn't show all gutenprint printer?
[07:10] <jrick> what version of ubuntu are you on, Fiesty or Dapper?
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> I report it every time  I have a problem sine I like the kicker in KDE :)
[07:10] <reya276> wow this OS is pretty cool it does everything vista does except for that dreamscene crap
[07:10] <reya276> fiesty
[07:10] <jrick> ok
[07:10] <reya276> 7.04
[07:10] <chijin> it's feisty, not fiesty
[07:10] <|ericsson|> reya276: and it doesn't require 2 gb ram to work, and it's free ;)
[07:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> reya276: KDE or GNOME?
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm reya276 where do you think Vista got it's IDEA from???
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> lol
[07:10] <reya276> I tried going into the ubuntu channel, but no one tried to help
[07:11] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ah
[07:11] <reya276> GNOME
[07:12] <sdlnxgk> ok time go play some WoW ;)
[07:12] <sdlnxgk> Cugel thanks for the help !!!!
[07:12] <sdlnxgk> have a great day Kubuntu PeEpS!!!
[07:12] <ar53n> fuckin french community they dont help me =(
[07:12] <reya276> I believe they did get it from here there are so many things windows has that this OS has ten times fold
[07:12] <makki> cd rom not work and hanging the system in xubuntu
[07:13] <BellaireLinuxN3r> reya276: thinking about it now, I think you might need to use gksu instead of sudo...
[07:13] <ar53n> hey
[07:13] <reya276> ok I'm using  Ubuntu 7.04
[07:13] <sdlnxgk> raya276 it's like the movie "Antitrust" the big guy always stealing from the free and Open Source world to make a buck what a shame...
[07:13] <ar53n> I have a question
[07:14] <jrick> it's not in the feisty repos yet
[07:14] <BellaireLinuxN3r> !question
[07:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <ar53n> I've downloaded GQcam on adept but i dont see the programs in my kthings
[07:14] <reya276> yeah that's 100% true
[07:14] <ar53n> XD
[07:14] <jrick> you could wait and check later, or find a package online
[07:14] <sdlnxgk> ok gonna  hit some WoW up now  bbia
[07:14] <jrick> I'm having trouble finding one
[07:14] <ar53n> I've downloaded the pack on adept...
[07:14] <ar53n> maybe i should restart my com p?
[07:14] <reya276> well I went to the realplayer website and that's what it downloaded
[07:14] <sdlnxgk> ar53n just Alt F2 and type gqcam and see if it works
[07:15] <sdlnxgk> ok i'm gone :)
[07:15] <reya276> http://www.real.com/linux/
[07:15] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: try rebooting if  sdlnxgk's suggestion doesn't work
[07:15] <ar53n> no it doenst work sdlnxg
[07:15] <ar53n> ok i'll brb!
[07:15] <jrick> try right clicking the binary and changing the perimissions
[07:16] <jrick> make sure the file is executable
[07:16] <Pollywog> is there a way to get KDE in Feisty to allow me to shut down or reboot without first exiting to the session manager?  Like it did in Edgy
[07:17] <Pollywog> in other words I want to cut out that extra step
[07:17] <jrick> reya176: do you need the propietary codecs?
[07:17] <pag> Pollywog, use KDM instead of GDM
[07:17] <jrick> if not, try Helix
[07:17] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Pollywog: it shouldn't do that on KDE
[07:17] <Pollywog> pag: no because kdm does not have secure remote connect via xdmcp
[07:18] <mrdlouisd> what is a good audio editor?
[07:18] <Pollywog> I need that secure xdmcp connect option
[07:18] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Pollywog: you can try a terminal command "sudo shutdown -h now" for halting the system
[07:18] <jrick> mrdlouisd: audacity
[07:18] <BellaireLinuxN3r> or replace "-h" with "-r" for reboot
[07:18] <reya276> ok changing the permissions work it's installing now
[07:18] <Pollywog> BellaireLinuxN3r: yes that would do it thanks
[07:18] <ar53n> im back
[07:18] <jrick> *might not be spelled correctly
[07:18] <reya276> all I did was make it so that is executes
[07:18] <BellaireLinuxN3r> pollywog: no prob
[07:19] <mrdlouisd> just came across that, thanks jrick
[07:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> jrick: no, you spelled it right
[07:19] <Cugel> How do I check what driver version I'm using (for my network card)?
[07:19] <reya276> is asking me this question
[07:19] <reya276> Copying RealPlayer files...configure system-wide symbolic links?
[07:19] <ar53n> no i stillo dont see the programs
[07:19] <reya276> I said yes
[07:19] <MidMark> why adding a printer from kde print doesn't show all gutenprint printer? my canon was listed in localhost:631 but not in kde print list
[07:19] <jrick> reya276: I have to go, hopefully someone else can help.
[07:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: did it install properly?
[07:19] <reya276> ok thanks
[07:20] <ar53n> no i dont see the program
[07:20] <ar53n> =(
[07:20] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: look in adept and see if the packages are installed
[07:21] <eljefe_> can anyone tell me how to search for multiple terms in Adept?  it seems to only want to find the terms I type in when they exist exactly in that order.
[07:21] <ar53n> state : installed
[07:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: huh...weird. Okay, try uninstalling the packages, reboot, reinstall the packages
[07:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: also check dependencies
[07:22] <ar53n> !dependencies
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <ar53n> whats dependencies?
[07:23] <BellaireLinuxN3r> some packages depend on another package...or two...or more
[07:23] <Pollywog> packages have packages they depend on
[07:23] <Pollywog> you need to install the dependencies too
[07:24] <Pollywog> such as installing libqt packages when you install kde
[07:24] <MidMark> eljefe_: use synaptic
[07:24] <eljefe_> adept should select to install dependencies automatically
[07:24] <ar53n> Oh ok
[07:24] <eljefe_> MidMark: yeah thats what i though, ok thanks
[07:24] <ar53n> i've uninstalled the pack
[07:24] <ar53n> but ill reboot later
[07:25] <MidMark> eljefe_: adept is better in Feisty, but I think synaptic is still the best one
[07:25] <Pollywog> some packages are needed for the machine to reboot
[07:25] <Pollywog> so make sure the package is not essential for the machine to boot
[07:25] <ar53n> ok
[07:25] <Pollywog> in general a reboot is not required after installing or removing packages
[07:26] <Pollywog> one exception is when installing a new kernel and wanting to boot to that kernel
[07:26] <Pollywog> it's not like that other OS we won't mention
[07:27] <BellaireLinuxN3r> *snerk*
[07:27] <BellaireLinuxN3r> that's why I'm used to doing that when i'm installing/uninstalling programs
[07:27] <MidMark> in other OS if change the _name_ of the pc you have to reboot :D
[07:27] <MidMark> I'm not kidding
[07:27] <frojnd> how do u check if nvidia driveres are installed??
[07:27] <Pollywog> in other OS if you install or remove almost anything you have to reboot
[07:27] <eljefe_> can anyone tell me the name of the LiveCD installer program?
[07:28] <Pollywog> frojnd: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[07:28] <MidMark> eljefe_: ubiquity
[07:28] <eljefe_> yes thanks!
[07:28] <MidMark> Pollywog: search with adept nvidia-<something>
[07:29] <frojnd> Pollywog: what does that mean:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19485/
[07:29] <MidMark> that you have nvidia driver 96.31
[07:29] <Pollywog> it means those two nvidia packages are installed
[07:29] <MidMark> there are also the newer 97.55
[07:29] <frojnd> Pollywog: ok
[07:29] <Pollywog> nvidia-common and nvidia-glx
[07:31] <Pollywog> nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-glx I mean
[07:31] <MidMark> frojnd: if you want the newer drivers install nvidia-glx-new
[07:31] <MidMark> that automatically uninstall the older one
[07:31] <Pollywog> the ii at the beginning means they are installed
[07:31] <frojnd> MidMark: really?
[07:32] <MidMark> frojnd: really!
[07:32] <garrett> Can anyone help with ndiswrapper problems?  I am having trouble with the make command
[07:32] <MidMark> frojnd: the fact drivers are installed doesn't mean that they are running
[07:32] <MidMark> depends on your xorg.conf file
[07:32] <frojnd> MidMark: I know: I haven't got set nvidia
[07:32] <frojnd> MidMark: will those driveres work for my FX 5500 ?
[07:33] <MidMark> well I don't know
[07:33] <MidMark> wait
[07:33] <Pollywog> the glxgears and glxinfo commands can tell you if the nvidia drivers are working
[07:33] <Pollywog> once you have set them in xorg.conf
[07:33] <MidMark> frojnd: yes they should work with your card
[07:33] <Pollywog> and loaded the driver
[07:33] <SilentWolf> Whats up everyone?
[07:34] <Pollywog> btw the nvidia drivers are broken in Feisty
[07:34] <SilentWolf> I am having some probelms with ndiswrapper when trying to run make
[07:34] <Pollywog> so stick with edgy if you are using nvidia
[07:34] <SilentWolf> Can anyone help out someone new to linux?
[07:35] <MidMark> Pollywog: here with Feisty driver nvidia are ok
[07:35] <Pollywog> MidMark: broken here
[07:35] <MidMark> Pollywog: broken what?
[07:35] <Pollywog> I can't get kde to start with nvidia driver
[07:36] <MidMark> which card?
[07:36] <SilentWolf> MidMark: Can you help with a ndiswrapperproblem?
[07:36] <Pollywog> 7600GS
[07:36] <MidMark> SilentWolf: explain your problem
[07:36] <cds_> I've got kind of a strange dual-head problem at work.  I'm running ubuntu edgy (it's the same problem with kubuntu of course - I have kubuntu feisty here @home but haven't upgraded my work box yet) on a thinkpad T40 (radeon mobility 9000 vid card using the fglrx driver) -- my laptop screen runs at 1400x1050 and my primary screen runs at 1792x1344 -- I am assuming I have a virtual screen of 3192x1344 (and I think that's part of the proble
[07:36] <MidMark> Pollywog: a friend of mine has a 7600gt mobile with Feisty and works perfectly too
[07:36] <MidMark> here 6600gt and feisty all ok
[07:37] <SilentWolf> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/garrett/Desktop/.driver/ndiswrapper-1.42/utils'
[07:37] <SilentWolf> gcc -g -Wall -I../driver -o loadndisdriver loadndisdriver.c
[07:37] <SilentWolf> loadndisdriver.c:15:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[07:37] <SilentWolf> loadndisdriver.c:16:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[07:37] <cds_> I'm asking here because my question got drowned out in the noise on #ubuntu -- sorry about the crosspost
[07:37] <chijin> my friends 7600gs works fine in feisty
[07:37] <ar53n> Guys how do i install flash player ?
[07:37] <Pollywog> well I know a lot of people have the same problem I am having since upgrading to Feisty
[07:37] <ar53n> I've downloaded the file but dont know how to install
[07:37] <Pollywog> maybe those ppl installed cleanly, not upgraded
[07:37] <BluesKaj> I gave up on feisty ....too many drawbacks for my setup , particularly constant ktorrentcrashes, direct rendering with fglrx drivers won't work ,and some of my souncard functions won't work
[07:37] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: what type of file is it?
[07:37] <MidMark> SilentWolf: are trying to install ndiswrapper?
[07:38] <Pollywog> and Feisty does not like vmware
[07:38] <SilentWolf> MidMark: yes
[07:38] <Pollywog> another problem
[07:38] <MidMark> SilentWolf: why not using precompiled ubuntu packages?
[07:38] <SilentWolf> MidMark: I was following the help forum
[07:38] <SilentWolf> MidMark
[07:38] <ar53n> hummm
[07:38] <SilentWolf> MidMark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[07:38] <ar53n> wait
[07:38] <Pollywog> I can run vmware in Feisty but only by downgrading the kernel to 2.6.17
[07:38] <pag> ar53n, you don't download files in (k)ubuntu, you install them fron Adept/apt :) sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  :)
[07:39] <MidMark> SilentWolf: ok sorry there are source to be compiled
[07:39] <ar53n> oh rly?
[07:39] <ar53n> shit
[07:39] <ar53n> XD
[07:39] <ar53n> sorry
[07:39] <ar53n> !language
[07:39] <ar53n> lol
[07:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:39] <ar53n> anyway thx :p
[07:39] <SilentWolf> MidMark: How to I go about doing that?
[07:39] <MidMark> Pollywog: both upgrades and new installation with nvidia, so definitly probably some settings in your config, tried 97.55 drivers?
[07:40] <Pollywog> I  tried the newest drivers but even going back to older ones was a no-go
[07:40] <Pollywog> I did not know or I would have stayed with Edgy
[07:40] <frojnd> can someone help me on that one. I tryed to install kubuntu (XP was allready installed) and when I installed kubuntu at the boot there isn't any choice for XP to pick. But Xp is there /media/sda5/WINDOWS  only that there isnt any Xp even on my /boot/grub/menu.lst this is my list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19486/  Can someone pless help.
[07:40] <Pollywog> at least on the one machine that uses nvidia and vmware
[07:40] <SilentWolf> MidMark:  What If i install them through the package manager is there something wrong with that?
[07:40] <Pollywog> Feisty works fine on my laptop
[07:41] <BellaireLinuxN3r> !grub
[07:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:41] <Pollywog> no nvidia there
[07:41] <Pollywog> and no vmware
[07:41] <BellaireLinuxN3r> frojnd: you might need to fix the mbr
[07:41] <MidMark> SilentWolf: first of all, have you installed builds-essential?
[07:41] <frojnd> BellaireLinuxN3r: how..
[07:41] <MidMark> Pollywog: vmware haven't tried yet, done now
[07:41] <ar53n> pag do i have to reboot after i've installed the flash thing?
[07:41] <frojnd> BellaireLinuxN3r: I am relly new to that boot think
[07:41] <pag> ar53n, no
[07:42] <pag> ar53n, what browser are you using?
[07:42] <ar53n> firefox
[07:42] <BellaireLinuxN3r> !fixmbr | frojnd
[07:42] <ubotu> frojnd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:42] <pag> ar53n, ok. just restart firefox after the installation, and flash should work like a charm :)
[07:43] <ar53n> doesnt work
[07:43] <ar53n> =(
[07:43] <BluesKaj> frojnd, download and burn Super Grub Disk , it's bootable and it'll help you restore your windows access
[07:43] <SilentWolf> MidMark:  when i try i get this
[07:43] <SilentWolf> build-essential linux-headers-'uname -r'
[07:43] <SilentWolf> Reading package lists... Done
[07:43] <SilentWolf> Building dependency tree
[07:43] <SilentWolf> Reading state information... Done
[07:43] <SilentWolf> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r
[07:44] <voidmage> linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:44] <pag> ar53n, did it install the package?
[07:44] <voidmage> you have to use the `, not '
[07:44] <frojnd> BellaireLinuxN3r: all good and right but don't know what to put as: root (hd0,0)  My windows is on device /dev/sda5 and this is my df -h output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19488/
[07:44] <ar53n> tes
[07:44] <ar53n> yes
[07:44] <SilentWolf> VoidMage: Thanks I will try
[07:44] <voidmage> SilentWolf: installed linux-headers-generic too?
[07:44] <ar53n> swf-player package
[07:44] <voidmage> that automatically updates your headers with every new kernel
[07:45] <SilentWolf> Cool thanks guys give me a few min let me see if this fixed it
[07:45] <pag> ar53n, you should install flashplugin-nonfree (it's in multiverse, so make sure it's enabled)
[07:45] <voidmage> You can just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:45] <ar53n> they are enable but i dont see them
[07:45] <ar53n> wait
[07:46] <voidmage> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:46] <ubotu> ubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[07:46] <voidmage> Depends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, msttcorefonts, flashplugin-nonfree, sun-java6-plugin
[07:46] <MidMark> SilentWolf: you have to install build-essential package and make shure you linux-headers-<kernel you have>Z
[07:46] <MidMark> emm typed too fast
[07:47] <MidMark> Pollywog: vmware doesn't start at your pc?
[07:47] <Pollywog> MidMark: vmware will not "compile" with the 2.6.20 kernel
[07:47] <Pollywog> it does not like the headers
[07:47] <MidMark> Pollywog: I have the one provided by Ubuntu, don't you like it?
[07:48] <Pollywog> that is the one that vmware does not like
[07:48] <MidMark> ?
[07:48] <Pollywog> 'Ubuntu has vmware,,, is that what you are saying?
[07:48] <MidMark> yes
[07:48] <Pollywog> I di not know that
[07:49] <MidMark> search it
[07:49] <ar53n> in adept -> software sources -> the multiverse thing is enable
[07:49] <ar53n> the case is notched...
[07:49] <MidMark> ubuntu has since Edgy
[07:49] <Pollywog> btw I have workstation not server
[07:49] <pag> ar53n, type uname -m  in konsole, and tell what it answers
[07:49] <Pollywog> vmware workstation
[07:49] <SilentWolf> MidMark: when i went to install driver i got this
[07:49] <SilentWolf>  sudo ndiswrapper -i /DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf
[07:49] <SilentWolf> installing bcmwl5 ...
[07:49] <SilentWolf> couldn't open /DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 174.
[07:49] <MidMark> no workstation is commercial isn't?
[07:49] <ar53n> x86_64
[07:49] <Pollywog> yes the commercial one
[07:50] <MidMark> Pollywog: ok of course that one isn't into ubuntu repos, but there is the server and the player one
[07:50] <Pollywog> those won't do
[07:50] <ar53n> thats what i get '' x86_64 ''
[07:50] <pag> ar53n, oh. I'm afraid there's no 'official' flash to 64bit platform. you vould use the free one, which equals to flash7
[07:50] <MidMark> SilentWolf: please can you update what are you doing now? Have you installed? compiled? what?
[07:51] <MidMark> give us more details
[07:51] <SilentWolf> MidMark:  I have build-essestials installed and I have ndiswrapper installed.. now I am trying to install the driver
[07:51] <MidMark> SilentWolf: have you compiled it?
[07:51] <ar53n> where can i find it?
[07:52] <Pollywog> is 64 bit Linux worth it atm?
[07:52] <pag> ar53n, mozilla-plugin-gnash I think, but I'm not sure
[07:52] <pag> Pollywog, not really :)
[07:52] <Pollywog> didn't think so
[07:52] <SilentWolf> MidMark:  Compiled the driver?  The help file I am reading says to do sudo ndiswrapper -i then fiel location
[07:52] <amachu> hi.. i can't see unicode characters in konqueror ftp client
[07:52] <SilentWolf> MidMark: thats the next step it tells me to do
[07:53] <amachu> any one having faced similar problems?
[07:53] <amachu> also in kasablanca
[07:53] <MidMark> SilentWolf: so you have just done: make and sudo make install?
[07:53] <Pollywog> I don't want to buy a 64 bit system if it is going to be crippled
[07:53] <SilentWolf> MidMark: Correct
[07:53] <amachu> they appear jumbled to me
[07:54] <SilentWolf> MidMark: After running sudo ndiswrapper - i    I received this message
[07:54] <SilentWolf>  sudo ndiswrapper -i /DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf
[07:54] <SilentWolf> installing bcmwl5 ...
[07:54] <SilentWolf> couldn't open /DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 174.
[07:54] <amachu> is kbear supported in Kubuntu?
[07:54] <MidMark> guide say: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/.driver/wifi/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf that is a little bit different
[07:54] <SilentWolf> MidMark: How is it diffrent?  Just the file locations correct?
[07:55] <MidMark> the location
[07:55] <Pollywog> anyone know if Dell will have Linux laptops?
[07:55] <MidMark> Pollywog: yes ubuntu
[07:55] <Pollywog> :)
[07:55] <SilentWolf> MidMark:  When I try to run install again it says driver is already installed
[07:56] <SilentWolf> MidMark: but when i type sudo ndiswrapper -l is says invalid driver
[07:56] <amachu> hi, kbear? is it available in Kubuntu edgy
[07:56] <amachu> how do i install
[07:57] <MidMark> SilentWolf: then I don't know, I don't have your card
[07:57] <ar53n> thanx ALL1
[07:57] <amachu> sudo apt-get doesn't work for me
[07:57] <ar53n> the flash thing works ^^^
[07:57] <heinkel_111> hi ... how do i find out which codecs are installed on my machine, and which codecs are in libxine-extracodecs?
[07:57] <Pollywog> sudo apt-get install kbear not work?
[07:57] <Pollywog> what is kbear btw
[07:57] <apokryphos> a crummy ftp manager :P
[07:57] <heinkel_111> sounds like a nice fella :)
[07:57] <SilentWolf> Hrrmmmm... now i am stuck
[07:57] <Pollywog> oic
[07:57] <BellaireLinuxN3r> !libxine-extracodecs | heinkel_111
[07:57] <SilentWolf> MidMark: Is their anyway to remove all of this and start over?
[07:58] <pag> ar53n, congratulations :) And good night from me, I'm going to have some sleep :)
[07:58] <apokryphos> amachu: check the faq
[07:58] <ar53n> well
[07:58] <ar53n> its works half xD
[07:58] <ar53n> works on NG Not on utube wtf
[07:58] <Pollywog> I do not see kbear even on Feisty
[07:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> heinkel_111: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libxine-extracodecs has info on extracodecs
[07:59] <MidMark> SilentWolf: did you do this command or not? sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/.driver/wifi/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf
[07:59] <amachu> apokryphos: link?
[07:59] <Pollywog> if you want it you might have to compile it yourself
[07:59] <leo__> hi people, just a simple question: where can i find info on how to install Wine ???
[07:59] <apokryphos> amachu: /topic
[07:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> !wine | leo__
[07:59] <ubotu> leo__: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:00] <Pollywog> I think maybe I should reinstall Edgy and get nvidia working again
[08:00] <leo__> thanks BellaireLinuxN3r, didnt knew how to ask the robot :D
[08:00] <Pollywog> I think if I wait for fixes, it is going to be a long wait
[08:00] <carutsu> Where can i get help in configuring a second monitor for my laptop or a projector?
[08:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> leo__: no problem
[08:01] <SilentWolf> MidMark:  I did that command... but i have my files in a diffrent location
[08:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> leo__: to ask the robot something append ! before what you're asking
[08:01] <apokryphos> amachu: noo
[08:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> so like "!wine" or "!extras"
[08:01] <MidMark> ok, where do you have them?
[08:01] <heinkel_111> BellaireLinuxN3r: that is not very informative, it is a file list and not a list of isntalled codecs
[08:01] <leo__> BellaireLinuxN3r: thanks!
[08:01] <Pollywog> which ubuntus have LTS just Dapper?
[08:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> no prob
[08:01] <heinkel_111> thanks anyway
[08:02] <amachu> :-(
[08:02] <SilentWolf> I have them here home/garrett/Desktop/.driver/wc/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf
[08:02] <MidMark> SilentWolf: ok so you wrong the path
[08:02] <SilentWolf> MidMark: No i ajusted the command that i typed in to go to the correct path
[08:02] <apokryphos> !faq | amachu
[08:03] <ubotu> amachu: faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[08:03] <frojnd> I am on feisty. What do I have to install beside bereyl? to run it
[08:03] <MidMark> sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/.driver/wc/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf
[08:03] <MidMark> go and try it
[08:03] <SilentWolf> ok
[08:03] <sdlnxgk> newbie ? if your using a ftpd to add users you have to have that user on the system correct??
[08:04] <sdafsdf> hi all
[08:05] <sdlnxgk> sdafsdf, hey there  yourself
[08:05] <sdafsdf> hehe
[08:05] <sdlnxgk> anyone using ftp programs??
[08:05] <sdafsdf> hi!
[08:05] <sdafsdf> wassup
[08:05] <ar53n> I have a SERIOUS problem since this morning my multiverse and univers are enable in adept , im running kubuntu on a amd64 and i cant FIND wine in adept
[08:05] <ar53n> omfg wtf!?
[08:05] <biovore> sdlnxgk: ftp programs.. you mean a client or a server?
[08:05] <BellaireLinuxN3r> !wine
[08:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:06] <ar53n> ill read it thx
[08:07] <frojnd> Hello there. I am on feisty and with feisty shouldn't be hard to install beryl. I installed beryl package. What else do I need to install to run beryl?? (I have installe nvidia)
[08:08] <biovore> !beryl
[08:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <MidMark> frojnd: emerald, beryl-manager
[08:08] <Tm_T> apokryphos: I take it
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[08:08] <frojnd> MidMark: looks like its's allready installed
[08:09] <frojnd> MidMark: how can I run than beryl
[08:09] <MidMark> frojnd: then run beryl manager
[08:09] <MidMark> that's all
[08:09] <MidMark> SilentWolf goes away without a thanx... great
[08:09] <sdlnxgk> biovore, i'm  trying to setup a server
 i've just searched in my add/remove prog and its seems like wine is already install , if so , where can i find it?
[08:10] <biovore> sdlnxgk: well there is proftpd and vsftpd
[08:10] <MidMark> ar53n: just launch a win program
[08:10] <MidMark> that's all
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> frojnd: There are a couple of steps to running beryl.
[08:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: try a small one, like solitare
[08:10] <frojnd> jhutchins_lt: I run it in consokle
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> !beryl | frojnd See this:
[08:10] <ubotu> frojnd See this:: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:10] <frojnd> jhutchins_lt: but I can't see borders
[08:10] <MidMark> frojnd: you have to set up via emerald
[08:10] <ar53n> where can i find solitaire?
[08:10] <ar53n> LOL
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> frojnd: I hate to repeat myself, but have you read any of the docs?
[08:11] <Cnl_Delta> hmm virtual box is tricky to setup but quite smooth
[08:11] <MidMark> ar53n: open a console and type wine regedit
[08:11] <BellaireLinuxN3r> C:\Windows\system32\sol.exe
[08:11] <sdlnxgk> biovore,  i'm using proftpd
[08:12] <ar53n> bahs : wine : introuvable
[08:12] <sdlnxgk> with the gproftpd frontend
[08:12] <MidMark> ar53n: so it isn't installed
[08:13] <ar53n> ok but i cant find it in adept nieh
[08:13] <ar53n> ill read the thing
[08:13] <MidMark> ar53n: here's updated packages http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/
[08:14] <sdlnxgk> biovore,   so in order to add a user to proftpd I would have to add them to my system correct... it's the only information I can't seem to find..
[08:14] <Endler> What do I need to do to get ruby working with qt4?  There are a bunch of conflicting packages in the repos.  Which ones do I need to install.  I Installed libqt4-ruby, but that doesn't seem to be enough.
[08:14] <ar53n> thanx
[08:14] <ar53n> but i use kubuntu?
[08:15] <ar53n> what package should i download?
[08:15] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ar53n: should be the same
[08:15] <MidMark> ar53n: it's same depends on which version you have
[08:15] <ar53n> how do i know if i have feasty or w/e?
[08:15] <ar53n> ( i've installed the 64bit version of kubuntu )
[08:16] <biovore> ar53n: you tring to figure out what version your running?
[08:16] <ar53n> yes
[08:17] <MidMark> what do you downloaded to install kubuntu?
[08:17] <biovore> ar53n: cat /etc/issue
[08:17] <ar53n> because i need to know what version of wine i should dl
[08:17] <sardira_> Kubuntu is AWESOME!
[08:17] <ar53n> yes
[08:17] <biovore> ar53n: you building wine from source?
[08:17] <ar53n> ubuntu 7.04 /n /l
[08:17] <ar53n> heummm
[08:17] <biovore> ar53n: feisty is 7.04
[08:17] <MidMark> ar53n: then download 7.04 wine package
[08:17] <sardira_> I want to convinces my frindes to switch from windows to K/ubuntu
[08:17] <ar53n> OK thx all +D
[08:17] <ar53n> =D
[08:18] <sardira_> do you have any flashes or slideshow that point the most attractive features of kubuntu?
[08:18] <MidMark> to install just: right click on it -> kubuntu menu -> install
[08:18] <ar53n> ok wait ill try =d
[08:18] <ar53n> it ask me for a password
[08:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[08:19] <ar53n> D=
[08:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> you mean, installing it?
[08:19] <ar53n> yeah
[08:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> put your user password in
[08:19] <ar53n> when i want to install it ask me for a password
[08:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> that's normal
[08:19] <ar53n> what should i put?
[08:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> it's running kdesu so you can install packages
[08:19] <BellaireLinuxN3r> your user password
[08:20] <BellaireLinuxN3r> as if you were using sudo
[08:20] <ar53n> it saus
[08:21] <ar53n> error the architecture of the package ( i 386 ) doesnt correspond to the system ( amd64)
[08:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[08:21] <ar53n> some error have been encounter ect....
[08:21] <ar53n> =/
[08:21] <ar53n> *sad*
[08:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[08:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> you need a 64 bit wine
[08:21] <ar53n> RAWR
[08:22] <biovore> yeah 64bit is a different arch then x86
[08:22] <biovore> same thing on windows
[08:22] <lupul> is there another app like konqueror? cause it just died forever
[08:23] <biovore> firefox
[08:23] <BellaireLinuxN3r> konqueror is just a browser
[08:23] <biovore> for webbrowsing.
[08:23] <ar53n> ok ive read some things and there is a hack so i can run de x86 on my 64bit
[08:23] <lupul> and for file managing?
[08:23] <ar53n> ill read that and ill brbr
[08:23] <lupul> ! file
[08:23] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:23] <lupul> ! file manager
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about file manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <ar53n> wtf
[08:24] <ar53n> theyre tryign to confuse me =( one time they says they is no wine for 64bit n then they tell me theyre is
[08:24] <ar53n> wtf
[08:27] <ar53n> how do i write '' ~ '' with a french canadian multilanguage keyboard
[08:27] <ar53n> ? =/
[08:28] <ar53n> =(
[08:28] <biovore> ar53n: get a US keyboard ?
[08:28] <biovore> no clue..
[08:28] <ar53n> rofl xD
[08:28] <jussi01> ar53n: do you have altgr on there?
[08:28] <ar53n> wait
[08:28] <ar53n> alt?
[08:28] <ar53n> yes lol
[08:28] <ar53n> XD
[08:28] <jussi01> ar53n: no, alt gr
[08:28] <ar53n> whats gr
[08:29] <ar53n> OH
[08:29] <ar53n> yes
[08:29] <ar53n> i do
[08:29] <jussi01> ar53n: try alt gr ^
[08:29] <ar53n> thanx
[08:29] <ar53n> worksss
[08:29] <ar53n> ~~~~
[08:29] <ar53n> :P
[08:29] <jussi01> lol
[08:29] <ar53n> <3 kissie
[08:29] <jussi01> ar53n: its the same on the finnish keyboard...
[08:30] <MidMark> ar53n: ah you have 64 bit
[08:31] <ar53n> yes
[08:31] <ar53n> and im trying to install wine
[08:31] <ar53n> it gave me headache...=(
[08:31] <MidMark> lupul: try krusader is another planet file manager, like total commander for windows
[08:32] <MidMark> ar53n: I don't know if wine works under 64 bit
[08:32] <MidMark> let me check
[08:32] <ar53n> http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64
[08:32] <ar53n> im trying to do this but i cant manage to do it i have some error ect...
[08:32] <lupul> i/m using it
[08:32] <lupul> but once it died too
[08:33] <MidMark> ar53n: yup
[08:33] <lupul> so i'm searching for something alternate in case krusader dies again and konqueror is already dead
[08:33] <MidMark> lupul: so you have to search why they died both
[08:34] <ar53n> does linux have a distance help request or smthing like this....like on windows
[08:34] <ar53n> this thing kills me xD
[08:34] <lupul> konqueror died after i changed the icons theme
[08:34] <lupul> but i switched it back but doesn't want to get alive
[08:35] <MidMark> ar53n: remote desktop?
[08:35] <MidMark> yes it has
[08:35] <ar53n> yes
[08:35] <ar53n> midmaark
[08:35] <ar53n> wanna help me do it?
[08:35] <ar53n> D=
[08:36] <MidMark> ar53n: tell what is your problem now exactly?
[08:37] <ar53n> See , i wanna install wine , i have a AMD64 and i cant find the file in adept , and my universe and multiverse thing are enabled so im trying to install it from the .deb but i need to do this : http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 but im not good at this...ive tryed but im getting some erro
[08:37] <ar53n> *error
[08:38] <MidMark> which errors???
[08:39] <MidMark> if you don't say exactly how can I help you?
[08:39] <MidMark> I just told you
[08:39] <ar53n> wait
[08:39] <ar53n> when i type the second command line it says ,
[08:39] <ar53n> bash : cd : /home/ar53n/desktop : no file or repertory of this type
[08:40] <MidMark> Desktop with D not d
[08:40] <MidMark> Desktop is not desktop
[08:40] <MidMark> this is linux!
[08:41] <ar53n> oh
[08:41] <ar53n> LOL
[08:42] <ar53n> :p
[08:42] <ar53n> kk wait ill re-try
[08:42] <alex__> hi
[08:43] <phpcode> ar53n: thanks, the link helped me install wine :-P
[08:43] <ar53n> after i've wrote the command line , nothing shows up so i closed the konsole and when i try to install it i got nothing xD
[08:44] <ar53n> you have a 64bit core phpcode?
[08:44] <Alonea> jlilly: just thought i would let you no that there is no success so far, but thats because of the disk I got (on mac)
[08:44] <phpcode> ar53n: AMD, yes.
[08:44] <jlilly> Alonea: awww. no good :(
[08:44] <ar53n> i'm trying to install it but it doesnt work
[08:44] <jlilly> What disk do you have that's causing a problem?
[08:45] <MidMark> ar53n: if you gave up without saying us nothing none can help you
[08:45] <ar53n> I,ve done EVERYTHING they said in http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 , after i've wrote everything in the console nothing happens
[08:45] <ar53n> ANd when i try to install it i still have the same error
[08:45] <phpcode> ar53n: have you typed the: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 .... command?
[08:46] <ar53n> yeah
[08:46] <Alonea> jlilly: remember in the instructions it said which one WONT boot in vmware? thats the one i accidentally got...^^;;;;
[08:46] <ar53n> wait i'll re-do everything
[08:46] <jlilly> awww :( :( :(
[08:46] <Alonea> jlilly: getting a different one that should work lots better.
[08:46] <MidMark> good phpcode try to teach him how to do, too few details to understand what's wrong
[08:46] <ar53n> OK
[08:46] <jlilly> Alonea: I just finished the download today. I think I'm going to try to install it.
[08:47] <ar53n> i've wrote the sudo thing , it reads the pack , reads the information , but once its done i got this error in the console
[08:47] <Alonea> jlilly: ok. I am gonna pm you.
[08:47] <ar53n> '' e: impossible to fin the package lib32asounds2 ''
[08:47] <jlilly> Alonea: sure thing.
[08:47] <ar53n> duh wait S at the end
[08:48] <MidMark> ar53n: copy and paste from the wiki and you will not have these errors ;)
[08:48] <ar53n> YEah! the sounds thing work now
[08:48] <ar53n> XD
[08:48] <kispios> Any italian?
[08:48] <ar53n> does ctrl v ctrl c work in console?
[08:48] <Tm_T> !it | kispios
[08:48] <ubotu> kispios: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:49] <MidMark> ar53n: works also right click -> paste
[08:49] <biovore> ar53n: in unix you just high light then middle mouse click  on what you want to paste to
[08:49] <speckter123> Hello
[08:49] <ar53n> ohhh
[08:49] <ar53n> ok
[08:49] <ar53n> im installing the sound thing.
[08:50] <MidMark> finally
[08:51] <ar53n> i think we're getting something man!
[08:51] <ar53n> i've been working around to make everything works since midnight to 4 am last night lol...
[08:52] <MidMark> ar53n: first times you lost hours for stupid things, will be better if you keep patience
[08:52] <MidMark> and always write ALL you did
[08:52] <ar53n> XDD
[08:52] <MidMark> so people can help you
[08:52] <ar53n> thats what im trying to do
[08:52] <ar53n> but its a bit hard cuz im french
[08:52] <ar53n> and the french kubuntu community is not very active so
[08:52] <MidMark> I'm italian :)
[08:53] <ar53n> ok
[08:53] <ar53n> i've done everything they say
[08:53] <MidMark> so try wine regedit
[08:54] <ar53n> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/ar53n/.wine'...
[08:54] <MidMark> yes it works
[08:54] <ar53n> NICE
[08:54] <ar53n> :p
[08:54] <ar53n> Man php midmark , you rock =/
[08:54] <ar53n> <333333333333333333
[08:55] <MidMark> ar53n: now if you launch a .exe program should open, if not then you have some errors and then checks
[08:55] <ar53n> Thanks for being so patient and comprehensive with me...
[08:55] <ar53n> :P
[08:55] <ar53n> ok ill try steam
[08:55] <MidMark> ar53n: go and tell to all french newbie :)
[08:55] <ar53n> ROFL :P
[08:55] <ar53n> its the first time i use linux tought so
[08:55] <ar53n> its a radical change for me :p
[08:56] <MidMark> ar53n: I know, but keep patience, it's better than windows, you have only open your eyes after sleeping for years (like matrix) :P
[08:57] <ar53n> ROFL :P
[08:57] <ar53n> yeah <3 matrix
[08:57] <Graham> hry
[08:57] <Graham> hey*
[08:57] <dany_21> hi room, i have alread asked in kde, but no response sofar: is there a possibility to add a button into the Toolbar in Konqueror to switch to e.g. "TreeView" or "Symbol" with just one click?
[08:58] <biovore> dany_21: I think you can.. not 100% sure though..
[08:59] <dany_21> biovore: i also though so :) but the question was meant of course: HOW?!
[08:59] <Graham> Settings > Configure toolbars?
[09:00] <biovore> Yeah, thats what I though, but I don't see the view options in there..
[09:00] <dany_21> Graham: no... at least thera are no buttons for viewmodes
[09:00] <biovore> dany_21: yeah, right now you have to go view | view mode | <selection>
[09:01] <biovore> Its something that would be easy for a developer to add though..
[09:01] <dany_21> even the List is somehoe implemented strange (see the bottom note if you select the icon in the Config toolbars dialog)
[09:01] <biovore> dany_21: I think it would be a nice addition
[09:01] <biovore> I use detailed list here..
[09:02] <biovore> oh there is a botton on the toolbar by default
[09:02] <dany_21> i often switch between symbol and treeview
[09:02] <mahdi> have you considered using a hotkey instead?
[09:02] <biovore> Well on my konqeror setup there is a buttion call Detailed List View
[09:02] <biovore> you press it and a pop up menu with the different view types pops up
[09:03] <dany_21> yep - this button i always use to change views
[09:03] <biovore> ok
[09:03] <dany_21> (the name actually changes if you click it)
[09:03] <biovore> yup
[09:03] <biovore> Icon changes as well
[09:03] <dany_21> but it takes carefully watching, to change between two modes
[09:04] <biovore> yeah..
[09:04] <dany_21> mahdi: what are the default shortcuts for this?
[09:04] <mahdi> dany_21: don't know, lets take a look-see
[09:05] <dany_21> mahdi: at least, i havent found the entry in "Define Shortcuts"
[09:06] <mahdi> dany_21: yeah, i'm not seeing the option in the configure shortcuts dialogue
[09:07] <ar53n> *sight*
[09:08] <ar53n> Any wine good people here?
[09:08] <ar53n> any people good with wine?
[09:08] <Tm_T> ar53n: doing gallup?
[09:08] <ar53n> gallup?
[09:08] <Tm_T> or poll
[09:08] <Tm_T> whatever
[09:08] <yellow> :)
[09:09] <ar53n> LOL
[09:09] <ar53n> no
[09:09] <ar53n> i have a problem installing steam
[09:09] <Tm_T> then ask your question ;)
[09:10] <ar53n> Im following the step by step on this website : http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam                      ( im at step 3.1 ) when i type wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi in my konsole i have this error : '' the specified installation package could not be opened . Please check the file path and try again . ''
[09:11] <MidMark> ar53n: again you wrong the path
[09:11] <ar53n> =(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[09:11] <ar53n> Damnnn
[09:11] <ar53n> how can i fix taht?
[09:11] <MidMark> copy and paste all the line from console
[09:12] <MidMark> I mean the 1 line to launch
[09:12] <ar53n> this one? wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi
[09:12] <ar53n> or what i haave when i open the console?
[09:12] <ar53n> if this is what u mean this is what i've got : ar53n@ar53n-desktop:~$
[09:13] <MidMark> so this the error
[09:13] <MidMark> let me teach you basi
[09:13] <ar53n> XD yesh mashter
[09:13] <MidMark> another question before: where do you have the file?
[09:13] <MidMark> in the Desktop?
[09:13] <ar53n> on my desktop
[09:13] <tarelerulz> Have any of you made a ln to jave executitle so something like frostwire can us the jave you have installed?
[09:13] <MidMark> ok so what do you launch exactly? Copy and paste from konsole
[09:14] <wilman> anyone having experience with wine?
[09:14] <wilman> i have a problem with the autorun of Ra2
[09:14] <MidMark> !ask
[09:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:14] <wilman> ok;P
[09:14] <ar53n> im trying to lunch SteamInstall.msi
[09:15] <ar53n> ar53n@ar53n-desktop:~$ wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi
[09:15] <MidMark> ar53n: ok great
[09:15] <wilman> autorun starts good but when the autorun has started and i press instal game it doesnt do anything
[09:15] <MidMark> ar53n: when I say all line I mean exactly all the line :)
[09:16] <MidMark> ar53n: probably you have to type: wine msiexec /i Desktop/SteamInstall.msi
[09:16] <ar53n> rofl..
[09:16] <ar53n> you're right midmark it works
[09:16] <ar53n> XD
[09:16] <ar53n> what does '' i '' mean?
[09:16] <MidMark> ar53n: listen 1 minute
[09:16] <ar53n> okay
[09:17] <MidMark> ar53n: when you see ~ you are in your home, /home/ar53n ok?
[09:17] <ar53n> ok
[09:17] <MidMark> Desktop is a subdir of your home so when you want to access it then you can type:
[09:18] <MidMark> "/home/ar53n/Desktop/<file>" or if you are in the ~ just type "Desktop/<file>"
[09:18] <MidMark> without ""
[09:18] <MidMark> and remember that with tab you have command auto-complete, so you can type Desk<TAB>
[09:18] <MidMark> and will complete it for you
[09:19] <ar53n> does it work for all the words in konsole?
[09:19] <MidMark> this works also for files and everything, but of course you have to be in the right place, of course if you type bad character that haven't a corresponding file then doesn't work
[09:19] <ar53n> exemple steam<tab>
[09:19] <MidMark> all files, dirs and commands
[09:19] <ar53n> Okay
[09:20] <MidMark> try a little bit, it's hard to teach than to try
[09:20] <ar53n> okay ill practice
[09:20] <MidMark> and remember that steam is Steam :P
[09:21] <MidMark> sorry is NOT
[09:21] <MidMark> linux is case sensitive
[09:21] <ar53n> XD
[09:21] <ar53n> okay
[09:21] <ar53n> just like c+
[09:21] <ar53n> lol
[09:23] <ar53n> thanx again man
[09:23] <ar53n> XD
[09:32] <Alonea> anyone else use Ktorrent? mine crashes all the time...
[09:32] <biovore> works great here
[09:33] <Arwen> I use azureus :-\
[09:33] <biovore> But I don't torrent a hole lot on this box..  I use torrentflux on a remote linux box and use a webbrowser to control it.
[09:33] <MidMark> Alonea: have you activated dht?
[09:33] <cWolfe> Alonea,  so does mine, but ti doesnt really affect anything, so i havent bothered to fix it
[09:34] <MidMark> ktorrent in Feisty has a bug with it, upgrade to 2.1.4 from ktorrent website, has feisty package
[09:34] <Alonea> MidMark: *shrugs* probably. Only thing is, if it crashes in the middle of the night, then it doesn't download..
[09:34] <Mena> Alonea, this happened with some times and i am using kubuntu 7.04 maybe its a bug or a ram isuue or cpu i dont know
[09:34] <Mena> me*
[09:34] <MidMark> no it's a bug with dht if activated
[09:35] <Mena> ohh ok
[09:35] <Alonea> MidMark: oh,ok. Will do that. this, so far, isn't the ONLY program that I have found I needed to get the one from the original people
[09:35] <MidMark> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[09:35] <exisn> You might have to reset the configurationfile for ktorrent when you upgrade, mine wouldn't start up intil I did
[09:36] <Mena> you can use Azures (the package you have or use the last version download it from sourcefrog.org or use utorrent under wine
[09:36] <lespea> is there anybody here that can reset nickserv passwords? I can't remember what I used --> I've been gone for a while!
[09:39] <Alonea> exisn: nope. it loaded up just fine for me.
[09:39] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[09:40] <leo__> hi
[09:40] <exisn> Ok, must be some setting I changed then
[09:41] <leo__> anybody: what's the best distro to install on a 80x586, 32MB Ram PC?
[09:41] <jussi01> arg, I just installed kdmtheme, and when i go to the part in system settings, it tells me to click admin mode, but there isnt any admin mode button...grrr
[09:41] <jussi01> leo__: dsl
[09:41] <jussi01> leo__: thats damn small linux....
[09:41] <jussi01> runs on practically anything
[09:42] <leo__> jussi01, with X server?
[09:42] <jussi01> leo__: yep
[09:42] <|lostbyte|> !dsl
[09:42] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:42] <jussi01> lol
[09:42] <Mena> jussi01, maxmize it
[09:42] <Mena> and you find the buttom
[09:42] <Mena> button*
[09:43] <jussi01> Mena: nope..still no button...
[09:43] <leo__> jussi01, great! thanks :)
[09:43] <jussi01> |lostbyte|: lol
[09:43] <Mena> jussi01, this is impossible !
[09:43] <leo__> jussi01, wait, thats not a distro..
[09:43] <jussi01> Mena: you want a screenie? :P
[09:43] <PhinnFort> how do i get back the kcontrol icon in my menu?
[09:43] <jussi01> leo??
[09:44] <aleksanteri> how can i change konsole's default font?
[09:44] <Mena> jussi01, heheh no
[09:44] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: tried right clicking?;)
[09:44] <jussi01> leo__: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[09:44] <leo__> jussi01, is it?
[09:44] <jussi01> yes it is...
[09:44] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: sorry, that was only in yakuake, however, try the "settings" menu
[09:44] <jussi01> leo__: debian based too...
[09:44] <leo__> jussi01, oh yes, sorry
[09:45] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: and when you're finished, select "save as standard"
[09:45] <aleksanteri> ahhhhhhhhh
[09:45] <leo__> jussi01, read what the robot said, sorry
[09:45] <aleksanteri> darn i'm stupid :P
[09:45] <jussi01> installs to the hdd as well
[09:45] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: aren't we all?
[09:45] <jussi01> leo__: lol
[09:45] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:45] <PhinnFort> my sister uses DSL
[09:45] <PhinnFort> she's 6
[09:47] <PhinnFort> but seriously, how do i get my KDE Control Center back?
[09:47] <Mena> jussi01, try this on terminal (kdesu kcontrol)
[09:47] <aleksanteri> PhinnFort: killall kcontrol; kcontrol
[09:47] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: i mean in the Menu
[09:47] <aleksanteri> ah
[09:47] <stittel> Mena: Why should you want to start the Control Center with root rights?
[09:47] <chicharron> i think i messed up my raid 0 trying to install kubuntu on an external hard drive...can anyone help? thanks
[09:47] <PhinnFort> the System Settings is the worst app of the year, imho;)
[09:48] <aleksanteri> yeah kcontrol rules
[09:48] <PhinnFort> Mena: kcontrol sudo's automatically when you need it
[09:48] <Mena> stittel, he have a problem telling me he cant find the admin button to open his kdm themes
[09:48] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: isn't that, you know, ugly?
[09:48] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:48] <stittel> Mena: Oh, alright.
[09:48] <PhinnFort> Mena: search?
[09:48] <aleksanteri> PhinnFort: not if you style it
[09:48] <Pollywog> I want to install Edgy over Feisty (Feisty buggy) but the installer won't allow it unless I reformat most of the drive
[09:49] <Mena> PhinnFort, no
[09:49] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: well, i tried styles, but it couldn't find images, and it was really buggy
[09:49] <stittel> Mena: Has he tried restting the kcontrol specific part of ~/.kde? Obviously something is broken on his system.
[09:49] <Mena> PhinnFort, for what
[09:49] <aleksanteri> they've btw released the new stable if you didn't know ;)
[09:49] <PhinnFort> Mena: for "kdm themes"?
[09:49] <Pollywog> it says I have no / partition, though I do
[09:49] <Mena> stittel, he didnt tell me
[09:49] <PhinnFort> Mena: if he can't find it then, it probably isn't installed
[09:49] <robin_> bonjour
[09:49] <PhinnFort> Mena: i think it comes with guidance
[09:49] <PhinnFort> !find guidance
[09:49] <ubotu> Found: kde-guidance, kde-guidance-powermanager
[09:49] <Pollywog> so I am stuck with Feisty and no working nvidia
[09:49] <PhinnFort> !info kde-guidance
[09:49] <ubotu> kde-guidance: collection of KDE system administration tools for GNU/Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 956 kB, installed size 3884 kB
[09:49] <PhinnFort> !nvidia | Pollywog
[09:50] <robin_> quelqun peut m'aider
[09:50] <ubotu> Pollywog: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:50] <aleksanteri> !fr | robin_
[09:50] <ubotu> robin_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:50] <robin_> ok merci
[09:50] <Mena> PhinnFort, no he have ldm themes installed and to open it he need admin rights but he cant find the button for it i told hime to maximize it and he told me the same he cant find it
[09:50] <Pollywog> that won't help... nvidia is broken in Feisty
[09:50] <Mena> kdm*
[09:50] <Pollywog> it's that simple
[09:50] <PhinnFort> Mena: is he using KControl?
[09:50] <PhinnFort> Mena: if so, it's outside the normal frame
[09:50] <PhinnFort> Mena: tell him to look farther down
[09:51] <Mena> PhinnFort, i told hime to maximize it
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia is broken in feisty?  howso?
[09:51] <Pollywog> yes it doesn't start kde
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[09:51] <Mena> PhinnFort, any way if he was watching this he will know
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not nvidia that has the problem
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> it's your config
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> the nvidia drivers are fine
[09:51] <Pollywog> no matter how I try to install nvidia it won't work in Feisty though it was fine in Edgy
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> they work
[09:51] <Pollywog> same config as edgy
[09:51] <ar53n> Midmark u there?
[09:51] <Pollywog> and it worked then
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm using them, on feisty, and in kde, and i know i'm not the only onwe
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> one*
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> have you tried reinstalling the drivers?  or maybe you need a slight config change
[09:52] <MidMark> ar53n: what's up?
[09:52] <Pollywog> lots of ppl report the same problem I have, in the forums
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> after all, it's not a one size fits all issue
[09:52] <Pollywog> it was working until Feisty was released
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> and if it's x not starting, reinstall your driver because it's likely that the kernel update threw it off
[09:53] <Pollywog> did that
[09:53] <ar53n> how do u talk in red like this?
[09:53] <ar53n> ( this is just a simple question like this )
[09:53] <Pollywog> and the kernel has a problem too, it does not work with vmware workstation 5
[09:53] <stittel> Pollywog: Did you at some point use NVIDIA driver's not officially released by Ubuntu?
[09:53] <Pollywog> stittel: no
[09:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ar53n: he's not talking in red, nor am i, it's nick highlighting letting you know there's a message with your name in it
[09:53] <Pollywog> only Ubuntu's
[09:53] <MidMark> ar53n: what?
[09:53] <Daisuke_Ido> try the one from the site
[09:53] <ar53n> ohhh
[09:54] <stittel> Pollywog: So you had 8xxx on Edgy without support for Compiz and Beryl?
[09:54] <ar53n> MidMark When u type wine in console , in what repertory are you?
[09:54] <Pollywog> I had support for Beryl on Edgy
[09:54] <stittel> Pollywog: Then you have not been using the offical drivers.
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> not with nvidia-glx you didn't, that's the 8xxx series of drivers that don't work properly with beryl
[09:55] <MidMark> repertory means for you directory?
[09:55] <frojnd> how can I acces into ./kde when I try there is this error: Unable to enter file:///media/sda1/home/q/.kde. You do not have access rights to this location
[09:55] <stittel> Pollywog: Is your system an update from Edgy or a fresh installation?
[09:55] <ar53n> yes
[09:55] <Pollywog> updated from Edgy
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> frojnd: try /home/q/.kde
[09:55] <Pollywog> I cannot use the 2.6.20 kernel
[09:55] <Pollywog> it won't work with vmware workstation 5
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Pollywog: then it's hardly an nvidia issue
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> wait wait wait
[09:56] <stittel> Pollywog: Do you have manually added repositories to your apt-sources other than the officall Ubuntu repositoryes main, restricted, universe, multiverse?
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> what kernel are you using on feisty then?
[09:56] <frojnd> Daisuke_Ido> I am on love cd and I have to mount sda1..
[09:56] <Pollywog> stittel: no
[09:56] <MidMark> ar53n: if you ask the question is better for everyone
[09:56] <Pollywog> all ubuntu
[09:56] <frojnd> Daisuke_Ido: I reallz need some logs that are on sda1
[09:56] <MidMark> I don't understand what you want to do
[09:56] <ar53n> XD
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> frojnd: ah
[09:56] <ar53n> ok let me reformulate
[09:57] <Pollywog> I downgraded to 2.6.17 from edgy so I could run vmware
[09:57] <ar53n> Again i have probleme with sub directory n stuff.
[09:57] <ar53n> Heres the problem
[09:57] <Daisuke_Ido> you're using the 2.6.17 kernel with feisty, and you're complaining about things not working?
[09:57] <Daisuke_Ido> you're on your own on this one
[09:57] <stittel> Pollywog: Can you please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us the link?
[09:57] <Pollywog> Daisuke_Ido: I used the Feisty kernel and it did not work
[09:57] <Pollywog> not with vmware
[09:57] <Daisuke_Ido> then go back to edgy, maybe?
[09:57] <Pollywog> or nvidia
[09:58] <Daisuke_Ido> just a thought?
[09:58] <Pollywog> yes I tried that
[09:58] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[09:58] <stittel> Pollywog: Can you also post there the package version of all packages whose name start with "nvidia"?
[09:58] <Pollywog> it won't install without reformatting everything
[09:58] <Pollywog> stittel: k
[09:58] <stittel> Pollywog: Is VMware not support version 5 of VMware workstation anymore, so they won't give you patches for 2.6.20?
[09:58] <ar53n> On linux gamer they say that to start steam i just have to type wine Steam.exe in Konsole but it says '' wine could not load system32\steam.exe module not found
[09:58] <stittel> Pollywog: Because in that case you will be stuck with 2.6.18 forever, which is hardly an alternative.
[09:59] <Pollywog> stittel: is that the problem? do if I upgrade vmware workstation it will work in Feisty?
[09:59] <ar53n> How can i tell the console to search for steam.exe in the steam directory instead of system32?
[09:59] <Pollywog> stittel: is that the problem? so if I upgrade vmware workstation it will work in Feisty?
[09:59] <MidMark> ar53n: type this using TAB
[10:00] <Pollywog> I would just reinstall Edgy but the installer wants to reformat all my partitions
[10:00] <stittel> Pollywog: Well, using a 2.6.20 kernel would help for starters, because there is no 2.6.18 kernel for Feisty, hence you leave the officall route by using such a kernel.
[10:00] <Daisuke_Ido> back up whjat you need then
[10:01] <Pollywog> oic
[10:01] <Daisuke_Ido> stittel: hence why i washed my hands of it :)
[10:01] <ejupin> eljefe_:I had to reinstall completely.. couldnt get xorg to work again.. not a probl, I dont keep valuable info on my linux box :)
[10:01] <stittel> Pollywog: But one thing at the time, please provide the output I asked for at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:01] <Pollywog> k
[10:01] <stittel> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, well, a lot of problems occur because of leaving the officall path. :)
[10:01] <MidMark> ar53n: nothing, use K->find files and search Steam.exe
[10:02] <Pollywog> I might be faced with the ugly alternative of reinstalling and reformatting all the partitions
[10:02] <stittel> Pollywog: No.
[10:02] <ar53n> MidMark you mean , find steam.exe in all the file?
[10:03] <frojnd> how can I select words in nano without mouse?
[10:03] <Pollywog> I am getting the output you requested
[10:03] <stittel> Pollywog: If it is VMware Workstation 5 being outdated, then you should switch back to Edgy, because you can't use Edgy forever anyhow.
[10:03] <stittel> Pollywog: pardon "shouldn't switch back"
[10:03] <MidMark> ar53n: in your home or in home/.wine to not search not in the whole home
[10:04] <Pollywog> stittel if I can upgrade vmware and use it with feisty I will do that
[10:04] <frojnd> does anyone know what change this command: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24  in xorg.conf exact lines??
[10:04] <Pollywog> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19506/
[10:05] <Pollywog> stittel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19506/
[10:05] <stittel> Pollywog: These are NOT Ubuntu packages.
[10:06] <Pollywog> stittel: okay I will look into upgrading vmware
[10:06] <stittel> Pollywog: Wherever they come from, neither Feisty nor Edgy ever had officicall 9755 Nvidia drivers.
[10:06] <ar53n> MidMark brb
[10:06] <stittel> Pollywog: One thing at a time. Let's first sanitize your system a bit, then care about Vmware.
[10:07] <stittel> Pollywog: Can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list too?
[10:07] <Pollywog> k
[10:07] <MidMark> ar53n: mh?
[10:08] <|ericsson|> !ndiswrap
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <|ericsson|> !ndiswrapper
[10:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:08] <Pollywog> stittel: thanks I don't want to take up more of your time, I am going to see if I can fix the primary problem, which is vmware in Feisty
[10:08] <ar53n> MidMark sorry i was AFK
[10:08] <Pollywog> the nvidia is the secondary problem
[10:08] <Pollywog> I will probably have to do a clean install of Feisty
[10:08] <stittel> Pollywog: However you like. Please not that VMWare Player and VMWare Server are both part of Feisty and are FREE!
[10:09] <Pollywog> stittel: I use workstation
[10:09] <slougi> well they are free but not Free :P
[10:09] <stittel> Pollywog: Also you should remove all related third party packages from your system and use the officall ubuntu ones.
[10:09] <Pollywog> stittel: I use workstation
[10:09] <mats> open and not free
[10:09] <stittel> Pollywog: You can run a VM created with workstation in at least VMWare Player and I also think in server.
[10:09] <ar53n> niehhh
[10:10] <stittel> Pollywog: I don't know what exactly do you need from VMware Workstation, but maybe another VMware product will also do.
[10:10] <Pollywog> I have tried that and it runs MUCH better in Workstation than in player
[10:10] <eams> Hi, I've an epson stylus CX3700 printer, but I can't print, can somebody help me?
[10:10] <stittel> Pollywog: By the way: How have you installed kernel modules for VMware until now?
[10:10] <Pollywog> they install from vmware's tarballs easily
[10:10] <Pollywog> but not in Feisty
[10:11] <stittel> Pollywog: But they don't compile with 2.6.20?
[10:11] <MidMark> ar53n: so?
[10:11] <Pollywog> correct
[10:11] <Pollywog> not 5.x anyway
[10:11] <stittel> Pollywog: I see. Try to get updated modules from VMware that work with 2.6.20.
[10:11] <Pollywog> maybe 6 does
[10:11] <eams> I'm in Feisty...
[10:11] <ar53n> MidMark i know where is my steam repertory but dont know how to tell the console where to get it
[10:11] <stittel> Pollywog: Otherwise check out VMware server or contact VMware support. But only after you have sanitized your system.
[10:11] <stittel> Pollywog: Your Nvidia problems don't directly correlate to your VMware problems.
[10:12] <Pollywog> stittel: correct
[10:12] <MidMark> ar53n: tell me where I can traslate :)
[10:12] <ar53n> translate my bad english? XDDD
[10:12] <stittel> Pollywog: Just don't use non-officicall version (i. e. packages not provided by Ubuntu itself for Feisty) for important packages.
[10:12] <eams> Hi, I've an epson stylus CX3700 printer, but I can't print, can somebody help me? I've Feisty
[10:12] <MidMark> ar53n: translate into konsole command that works (tm)
[10:13] <stittel> Pollywog: I have installed nvidia-drivers in Edgy with one command and they still work perfectely fine after the Feisty update. It's really not a Ubuntu flaw.
[10:13] <Pollywog> stittel: when I first upgraded to Feisty, I used the nvidia packages but they did not work, so I had to compile from nvidia sources for the 2.6.17 kernel
[10:13] <Pollywog> stittel: that is what I did, same thing you just said, only it did not work
[10:13] <stittel> Pollywog: The official Ubuntu nvidia packages for the officical ubuntu kernel packe work quite well, believe me. :)
[10:13] <Pollywog> k
[10:13] <ar53n> MidMark : Im not sure what you're trying to tell me right now...im confused xD
[10:14] <stittel> Pollywog: This would mean running a kernel of course, for which you can't compile VMware modules. Check with VMware for that.
[10:14] <Pollywog> I will try to find out about upgrading vmware
[10:14] <MidMark> ar53n: where is your file???
[10:14] <stittel> Pollywog: Good Luck! If  you have further questions, feel free to come back anytime!
[10:14] <MidMark> tell me.
[10:14] <Pollywog> stittel: ty
[10:14] <ar53n> MidMark : my steam.exe?
[10:14] <Dhraakellian> asking on behalf of my brother here...  Which -dev packages would be required to compile Kirocker?
[10:14] <ar53n> MidMark : its in my wine file , programfiles -> steam
[10:16] <Dhraakellian> Alternatively, does anyone know where there would be a .deb for it?
[10:16] <eams> Hi, I've an epson stylus CX3700 printer, but I can't print, can somebody help me? I've Feisty
[10:16] <guts> bjr
[10:16] <guts> ya des fr ??
[10:16] <MidMark> so open a console and: WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" wine .wine/Program\ Files/Steam/Steam.exe
[10:16] <ar53n> ouaips
[10:16] <ar53n> !fr
[10:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:16] <guts> yop ^
[10:17] <guts> comment jinstal un tar.bz2 ?
[10:17] <aldin> what download manager u suggest if my public IP is changed very often, and i need to download one big file which needs to be resumed
[10:17] <MidMark> ar53n: change upper case if they are wrong, you typed all in lower case, but I don't think they all are
[10:17] <ar53n> MidMark: OK
[10:17] <guts> svp
[10:17] <ar53n> guts va sur le channel fr jsuis oqp en se moment dsl
[10:18] <ar53n> !fr
[10:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:18] <guts> il est ou
[10:18] <aldin> what download manager u suggest if my public IP is changed very often, and i need to download one big file which needs to be resumed
[10:18] <ar53n> wine: cannot find '.wine/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe'
[10:18] <ar53n> clique sur kubuntu fr en bleur
[10:18] <ar53n> !fr
[10:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:18] <ar53n> ou ubuntu si tu a ubuntu
[10:19] <slougi> aldin: you can try kget
[10:19] <guts> merci
[10:19] <slougi> aldin: or wget from the command-line
[10:20] <aldin> slougi, i tried wget kget downthemall but all of them "dont know " to retry if connection fail (if my public ip is changed)
[10:20] <MidMark> ar53n: you have to modify the directory with the one EXACTLY returned by finder, I cannot help you since you don't copy and paste but you type manually here and you continue to wrong to copy
[10:20] <MidMark> ar53n: listen to me
[10:20] <slougi> aldin: wget at least has a --continue switch
[10:20] <ar53n> MidMark : Yes
[10:20] <slougi> aldin: I haven't really used the others
[10:20] <aldin> freedownload manager has option to retry after e.g. 5 mins
[10:21] <aldin> i need equivalent on linux
[10:21] <MidMark> open konqueror, go to your home, type in the address bar .wine appending to the current url
[10:21] <MidMark> then hit enter and then navigate throught the file system and find Steam.exe
[10:21] <ardchoille> How do I stop kbluetoothd from starting when I log into kde?
[10:21] <Cnl_Delta> hi, which OSS virtual machine can do full 3d?
[10:22] <MidMark> wehn you found it then right click on it and open with -> wine
[10:22] <MidMark> I don't know a easier method to open it
[10:22] <ar53n> ok wait
[10:23] <slougi> Cnl_Delta: I don't think there is one, open-source or not
[10:24] <ar53n> ok i've find steam.exe
[10:24] <ar53n>   /home/ar53n/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[10:24] <ar53n> sec
[10:24] <aldin> look, wget -c URL works ok, but if my public ip gots changed wget is "confused" and it doesnt know to retry downloadin, FreeDownloadManager for windows has option to retry if connection fails 5,10mins after etc
[10:24] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm trying to build a package that cannot find the proper X includes and says to add them to my path. I've found where the headers are, but what evironment variable would it be looking at to find the X includes?
[10:24] <MidMark> ar53n: ooooooooooooooh finally
[10:25] <ar53n> MidMark : yeah xD ok now when i try to start it with wine it says fatal error could not load module 'bin/vgui2.dll'
[10:25] <SlimG> Is there a aptitude/apt-get parameter for pulling packages from another architecture? ex.: aptitude install krita --architecture=amd64
[10:25] <kkerwin> So that I can add the path to that variable? (See above)
[10:25] <MidMark> ar53n: then you have a new problem
[10:26] <ar53n> MidMark : im such a lucky guy +D
[10:27] <stittel> kkerwin: Why didn't you just install the appropriate dev packages?
[10:27] <MidMark> ar53n: ok
[10:27] <MidMark> understood
[10:27] <stittel> kkerwin: Or did you?
[10:27] <MidMark> read this: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1917&forum=10
[10:27] <MidMark> > You should start steam from its directory not from somewhere else.
[10:27] <stittel> kkerwin: Because usually you don't need to set the path manually.
[10:27] <MidMark> so first you have to do: cd <directory>
[10:27] <kkerwin> stittel: I don't believe that I did. Ok. I just found a folder: /usr/include/X11 and assumed that that was the proper folder.
[10:27] <MidMark> then wine Steam.exe
[10:28] <kkerwin> stittel: Ok. I'll check and make sure that I installed those.
[10:28] <Dhraakellian> grargh... trying to help my brother get kirocker installed, but it needs to be manually compiled
[10:28] <Dhraakellian> what would he need to install so that the standard compiling process will actually work?
[10:29] <slougi> Dhraakellian: the configure script will complain about missing deps
[10:29] <lespea> where do I need to go / who do I need to ask in order to reste my nickserv password?
[10:29] <lespea> *reset
[10:29] <stittel> kkerwin: Who did you install the X devlopment files/
[10:29] <MidMark> ar53n: at the bottom of the thread it says that you have to install internet explorer, don't know, you have to try
[10:29] <stittel> ?
[10:29] <stittel> kkerwin: How did you install the X development files?
[10:29] <Dhraakellian> slougi:
[10:29] <Dhraakellian> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[10:29] <Dhraakellian> See `config.log' for more details.
[10:29] <kkerwin> stittel: I am apt-getting xorg-dev right now.
[10:29] <ar53n> MidMark : ... wowwww ok so now i have to install IE IN Wine...
[10:30] <Dhraakellian> (relayed from IM with him)
[10:30] <stittel> kkerwin: Alright, so they probably just weren't installed.
[10:30] <kkerwin> stittel: Thats what I'm thinking. I'll let you know if the problem persists. Thanks.
[10:30] <MidMark> ar53n: you can try to install FAKE IE
[10:30] <slougi> Dhraakellian: heh nice, it seems it doesn't like his compiler a lot... don't know, sorry, but maybe try to update g++
[10:30] <MidMark> just a registry key to say that there is, but in reality there isn't
[10:30] <MidMark> sometimes it works :P
[10:30] <stittel> kkerwin: Please just don't copy anything into /usr by hand.
[10:31] <ar53n> MidMark : Can i download it from adept?
[10:31] <stittel> kkerwin: Except /usr/local/ of course.
[10:31] <Pollywog> !vmware | pollywog
[10:31] <Dhraakellian> build-essentials?
[10:31] <MidMark> ar53n: no! it's not free software!
[10:31] <stittel> Dhraakellian: Which software are you trying to build?
[10:31] <Dhraakellian> stittel: kirocker
[10:31] <kkerwin> stittel: Yes. I've used FreeBSD and Gentoo in the past. I've already made those mistakes. :-)
[10:32] <Dhraakellian> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52869
[10:32] <MidMark> ar53n: wait I can provide to you a tips that can works
[10:32] <stittel> kkerwin: Yeah, well, I made them back on Debian quite a long time ago. :)
[10:32] <ar53n> oh ok
[10:32] <lespea> :( nobody?
[10:32] <kkerwin> stittel: Thanks again for your help.
[10:32] <slougi> lespea: ?
[10:32] <stittel> kkerwin: You're welcome. Have fun with Kubuntu!
[10:32] <ar53n> Hey lespea!
[10:33] <kkerwin> stittel: Thank you. One last question ... what is the name of the qt dev package?
[10:33] <lespea> hey
[10:33] <lespea> where do I need to go / who do I need to ask in order to reset my nickserv password?
[10:33] <slougi> lespea: you'll have to contact freenode staff
[10:33] <lespea> ah
[10:33] <slougi> lespea: maybe try #freenode or similar
[10:33] <kkerwin> lespea: Try msg nickserv help (with a slash infront of msg, of course)
[10:34] <lespea> I searched help, but I couldn't find anything too usefull :(
[10:34] <lespea> I'll try freenode though, thanks!
[10:34] <stittel> kkerwin: Qt3 or Qt4?
[10:34] <kkerwin> stittel: Hrm. Not sure.
[10:35] <stittel> kkerwin: Qt3 might be libqt3-headers and/or libqt3-mt-dev.
[10:35] <kkerwin> stittel: Well, I have both actually.
[10:35] <Pollywog> !vmware | pollywog
[10:35] <stittel> kkerwin: Qt4 should be libqt4-dev.
[10:35] <kkerwin> stittel: K
[10:35] <MidMark> ar53n: download this http://kegel.com/wine/winetricks
[10:36] <lespea> :( I "cannot send to channel" on #freenode
[10:36] <kkerwin> stittel: Phew. These dev packages sure have a lot of deps!
[10:36] <ar53n> MidMark : okay!
[10:36] <stittel> kkerwin: I guess they have. :)
[10:36] <frojnd> !mbr
[10:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:36] <stittel> kkerwin: If you run gtkorphon and or debfoster, you can easily clean orphaned packages... so don't worry.
[10:37] <MidMark> and launch it from konsole from the dir where you put the file: ./winetricks fakeie6
[10:37] <kkerwin> stittel: Heh. Cute names. :-)
[10:37] <stittel> Dhraakellian: Which missing dependency does the ./configure skcript complain about?
[10:37] <Pollywog> so if I use the vmware packages in Feisty, I have to install the VMware 6 beta?
[10:38] <Dhraakellian> stittel: he's offline right at the moment
[10:38] <stittel> Dhraakellian: And you are not Dhraakellian but his ghostwriter?
[10:38] <Pollywog> I wonder if I can "alien" a deb from the vmware*rpm
[10:38] <pascal> Is it possible to get different sized icons in KDE ? (like this gnome screenshot: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/57756-1.jpg )
[10:39] <Pollywog> it's worth a shot
[10:39] <kkerwin> Pollywog: I just use the tarball packages on their website for the vmware server. It installs very nicely alongside Kubuntu.
[10:39] <Pollywog> k thanks
[10:39] <tan> Pollywog: yes, you can, but I think you must use "-c", but I can be wrong :)
[10:39] <Dhraakellian> stittel: I'll see if I can just convince him to join
[10:39] <lespea> do you know if you have to have a registered nick to get voice on #freenode?
[10:39] <lespea> (noob @ irc)
[10:40] <stittel> pascal: Look in the System settings at "Appearance", "Icons", "Advanced".
[10:40] <stittel> pascal: There you can set the icon size!
[10:40] <Pollywog> and if I already have VMware workstation I can't use the same VM I have been using?
[10:40] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  you should be able to.
[10:40] <Pollywog> k thanks
[10:40] <kkerwin> lespea: One sec.
[10:40] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  i tend to just vmware server.
[10:40] <lespea> k thanks
[10:41] <stittel> Pollywog: Which has the additional advantage of having nice official Ubuntu packages complete with appropriate kernel modules.
[10:41] <tan> I'm trying to upgrade a Kubunt system to 6.10, but when I choose upgrade in update-manager (and then click upgrade in the dialogbox), the updatemanager downloads 2 updates, then nothing....
[10:41] <kkerwin> lespea: In the topic in #freenode it says "you will be voiced soon ... please wait"
[10:41] <Pollywog> stittel I have downloaded the Ubuntu kernel modules
[10:41] <lespea> ah, thanks I missed that!
[10:41] <Pollywog> and rebooted to 2.6.20
[10:41] <ar53n> Midmark : i've downloaded the file on my desktop , i type desktop/winetricks
[10:42] <lespea> must be an anti-spam thing
[10:42] <ar53n> And i've tryed other thing but it doesnt work
[10:42] <ar53n> gosh im such in noob in console
[10:42] <stittel> Pollywog: Are you talking about Nvidia or Vmware modules?
[10:42] <biovore> kernel.org down for anyone else?
[10:42] <Pollywog> only thing keeping me on 2.6.17 was vmware
[10:42] <pascal> stittel nice, but I'd like to make only 1 icon big, like in the screenshot
[10:42] <dr_willis> ar53n,  what is that file supposed to be?
[10:42] <Pollywog> nvidia is the secondary task
[10:42] <Pollywog> vmware is more inportant
[10:42] <Pollywog> important
[10:42] <ar53n> dr_willis : a fake IE6 file so i can start steam
[10:42] <stittel> pascal: Sorry, no idea. Why do you want to do this?
[10:42] <tan> anyone had similar trouble with their Kubuntu upgrade?
[10:43] <MidMark> ar53n: probably you have to give it execution permission
[10:43] <Pollywog> I might end up having to do a clean Feisty install and have to reformat all partitions
[10:43] <stittel> tan: Lots of people, the forums are full with it. Usually it's the fault of using non-officiall third-party packages though.
[10:43] <MidMark> type: chmod 755 <file>
[10:43] <MidMark> chmod 755 Desktop/winetricks
[10:43] <lespea> and/or chmod +x <file> ;)
[10:43] <stittel> Pollywog: Depending on the state of your system this might be the most efficient option
[10:44] <tan> stittel: ok, but shouldn't it fail with a message then? it just (quickly) download 2 updates, then I'm back to the main-window...
[10:44] <stittel> tan: You are using update-manager?
[10:44] <ar53n> ok i
[10:44] <Pollywog> stittel: I will have to backup lots of stuff since I can't seem to install and keep /home this time
[10:44] <tan> stittel: yes, as the forums sayd was the best way...
[10:44] <tan> *said*
[10:44] <ar53n> MidMark we have something , ill copy paste whats in my console in PV
[10:44] <Pollywog> the installer is not giving me that option
[10:45] <stittel> tan: Run update-manager from console and keep watching for messages on stderr.
[10:45] <tan> stittel: ok, I'll try.... ;)
[10:45] <MidMark> !paste
[10:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:45] <MidMark> ar53n: put here ^
[10:45] <Pollywog> what is the advantage of vmware workstation anyway?
[10:46] <Pollywog> now that the server is free
[10:46] <stittel> Pollywog: At least the installer on the alternate CD is quite flexible.
[10:46] <ar53n> !paste
[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <Pollywog> stittel: yes I used that to install Edgy
[10:46] <stittel> Pollywog: Never used the Desktop LiveCD thingy though. I am afraid of installations that involve GUI and such.
[10:46] <Pollywog> but it is being infelxible today
[10:46] <pascal> stittel, allright.. Just thought it was cool :-)
[10:46] <ar53n> MIdMark : 2 sec
[10:46] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  the server is 'free' but still not "Free" :)
[10:47] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  you need to reg. get serial# ect...
[10:47] <MidMark> I'm watching tv from my kubuntu I have all the time till I go to bed
[10:47] <tan> stittel: I get this: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[10:47] <Pollywog> oic
[10:47] <stittel> Pollywog: Free as in beer, not free as in speech, dr_willis seems to mean.
[10:47] <ar53n> MidMark : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19515/
[10:47] <Pollywog> I understood his meaning
[10:47] <dr_willis> stittel,  most people dont comprenehd the beer/free analogy either. :)
[10:47] <Pollywog> maybe server won't run on this machine
[10:47] <stittel> tan: This error turns up right when update-manager fails? Or before?
[10:48] <tan> stittel: before
[10:48] <Pollywog> there has to be a catch
[10:48] <stittel> tan: Ok, don't worry. No output when things go bad?
[10:48] <dr_willis> Vmware wanted to get a bigger user base, so they released a free version for the hobbiest/little people :)
[10:48] <ar53n> MidMark : so , what do you think ? ^^
[10:48] <alexicon> hi guys
[10:48] <Pollywog> oic
[10:48] <dr_willis> and hope that that will result in more sales of their higherend tools.
[10:48] <alexicon> so i juist upgraded my desktop to feisty
[10:48] <alexicon> pretty cool
[10:49] <alexicon> so is universe and multiverse in there by default now?
[10:49] <dr_willis> vmware is nice, virtualbox is also similer. and worth trying out.
[10:49] <tan> stittel: yes, sorry: IOError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpzW_K0X/edgy.tar.gz'
[10:49] <dr_willis> alexicon,  ive noticed that when you do some 'things' it will ask then incliude them
[10:49] <alexicon> ah
[10:49] <dr_willis> alexicon,  like playing a video file and so forth.
[10:49] <MidMark> ar53n: I said this -> [22:37]  <MidMark> and launch it from konsole from the dir where you put the file: ./winetricks fakeie6
[10:49] <stittel> tan: This is an interesting error.
[10:49] <Pollywog> is there a way to know for sure that I have the alternate install cd?
[10:49] <alexicon> im well happy with the nvidia support in that restricted drivers module
[10:49] <Pollywog> I do not see LIVE in it
[10:49] <alexicon> that was the most painless yet
[10:50] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  if it boots and dont go to a Desktop/Gui - and is all text.. its the alt install. :)
[10:50] <tan> stittel: I get some other warning at the beginning...
[10:50] <stittel> tan: Yes, those warnings are not so important I think.
[10:50] <stittel> tan: Have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/67066
[10:51] <Pollywog> dr_willis: I think I should download a new image, unless I can find another CD that is labelled "alternate install"
[10:51] <tan> stittel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19516/
[10:51] <tan> stittel: ok, looking :)
[10:51] <ar53n> MidMark : okay installation done
[10:51] <ar53n> MidMark : but steam still doesnt work lawl
[10:52] <sound_fx> Hello, I am trying to get my dual-head setup running, I am using ATI config, and I have entered the commands for my monitors at the login screen the desktop is set up right, but when I log in to my user, the secondary screen is just cloned.
[10:52] <chump> hi
[10:52] <MidMark> ar53n: same error?
[10:52] <ar53n> MidMark : Yes
[10:52] <frojnd> so vmware is free... how can I install xp via vmware??
[10:52] <tan> stittel: yes, it's the same error/scenario, but no solution... :(
[10:52] <stittel> tan: Yes, just see that myself.
[10:52] <stittel> Hm..
[10:53] <MidMark> ar53n: try these instructions, I cannot help so much because I don't have steam
[10:53] <chump> is there something wrong with the kubuntu 7.04 torrent ? because i always get like .. 240 failed chunk
[10:53] <MidMark> ar53n: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[10:53] <stittel> tan: Have you tried the CD update method?
[10:53] <tan> stittel: should I try the manual method, or not?
[10:53] <stittel> tan: Try the CD update method before.
[10:53] <sound_fx> Is there some sort of user preference that overrides the xorg.conf file?
[10:53] <tan> stittel: nope, didn't know it existed... :P
[10:53] <ar53n> ok thx
[10:53] <stittel> tan: "apt-get distupgrade" is not so great.
[10:53] <ar53n> MidMark : thanx ill be back later ^^
[10:54] <tan> stittel: ok, thanks for your help! I'll try the CD update method :-)
[10:54] <Dhraakellian> Greetings, Froggy
[10:54] <stittel> tan: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-0aee739ab0dfe9702a69ee3d316f5926d5d31807
[10:54] <FroggyTheGreat> I just installed kdelibs off the Adept Package Manager, and my system was completely borked.
[10:55] <Cnl_Delta> hi, which is preferable on kubuntu, xgl or aiglx
[10:55] <MidMark> ar53n: http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?iAppId=1163&iVersionId=1554&iThreadId=10035
[10:55] <FroggyTheGreat> Which is to say, I'd try to back the changes out, but the pacakge manager doesn't run anymore.
[10:55] <mahdi> cnl_dleta: what is your video chipset? thats more important.
[10:55] <MidMark> ar53n: the problem is the one I told you before: you MUST run the steam file from its directory and not outside
[10:55] <lnxkde> guys, I used to connect my LCD monitor with the VGA cable to the VGA of my card now I installed it with the DVI one and the video wont show up. I re configured the nvidia driver and nothing. Do I have to make changes in the Xorg.conf to get it to show up on the DVI head?
[10:55] <lnxkde> It works with the nv driver but when I use the nvidia driver It wont work.
[10:55] <Cnl_Delta> nvidia 7600 gs
[10:55] <Pollywog> I have that card too
[10:55] <mahdi> cnl+delta: aiglx
[10:55] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[10:55] <tan> stittel: thank you! :D
[10:55] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone have any ideas where I could even start?
[10:56] <ar53n> MidMark : what do you mean from its directory?
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> k now to find a guide to get aiglx working in kubuntu
[10:56] <MidMark> ar53n: open console
[10:56] <Pollywog> what is aiglx?
[10:56] <ar53n> MidMark : ok
[10:56] <Dhraakellian> Froggy's apt-get is still there, and I think I suggested trying to reinstall kubuntu-desktop to see if that fixed things, but that might've failed for some reason.  FroggyTheGreat, am I remembering correctly?
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> and ati works best with xgl or nvidia 8000s?
[10:56] <Pollywog> because I have the same card
[10:56] <MidMark> then type: cd <directory where you have steam installed>
[10:56] <sound_fx> When I log in, my desktop doesn't reflect the xorg.conf settings as I have them set up. The desktop looks fine on the login page.
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> Pol
[10:56] <Pollywog> 7600GS
[10:56] <MidMark> then type: wine Steam.exe
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> Pollywog: 3d for desktop
[10:56] <ar53n> ok sec sec
[10:56] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraak, yes you are.
[10:56] <Pollywog> oic
[10:56] <mahdi> cnl_delta: check ubuntuguide.org, always a good first stop
[10:57] <Pollywog> !aiglx
[10:57] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[10:57] <frojnd> how do I check if driveres for nvidia are running??
[10:57] <Pollywog> frojnd sudo lsmod | grep nvidia
[10:58] <ar53n> to go to the directory i type cd ar53n/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[10:58] <FroggyTheGreat> And my add/remove programs link is missing.  What's the command to run it?
[10:58] <ar53n> But it doesnt work
[10:58] <frojnd> nvidia               6837140  22agpgart                35400  2 nvidia,amd64_agpi2c_core               22784  3 i2c_ec,nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[10:58] <frojnd> does that mean that it's running?
[10:58] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: adept_installer, iirc. but that's just me trying to remember from when I was over there yesterday
[10:58] <irvken> I'm trying to fix my driver probelm, but all the howtos refer to the menu path System --> Administration which I don't appaer to have
[10:59] <Dhraakellian> and you had that lock problem anyway
[10:59] <Pollywog> looks as though the driver is loaded
[10:59] <Dhraakellian> where is the apt lock file?
[10:59] <FroggyTheGreat> And the Control Center doesn't load either.  Holy crap.
[10:59] <Pollywog> you have an nvidia mobo too?
[10:59] <jetpig> here's an odd qustion:  i can't add splah screens in kde.  i browse to the folder where i've got the splash screen saed and it won't see the theme.rc file.  any ideas?
[11:00] <onlineapps> hey
[11:00] <onlineapps> im running feisty, and I can't always get sound to work
[11:00] <MidMark> cd .wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[11:00] <onlineapps> I think the reason is that /dev/dsp is locked
[11:00] <FroggyTheGreat> Question - What is nte command to run the package manager?
[11:01] <MidMark> ar53n: why you cannot understand how it works?
[11:01] <ejupin> anyone know how I can get a usb mic to work??
[11:01] <ar53n> MidMark i guess thats just 2 much for my brain in 1 day
[11:01] <onlineapps> I changed its permisions to let my account (andrew) use it but it reverts after a reboot
[11:01] <FroggyTheGreat> What is "the" command to run the package manager, sorry.
[11:01] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: run sudo adept-manager
[11:01] <FroggyTheGreat> thank you.
[11:01] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude FroggyTheGreat
[11:02] <ar53n> MidMark it says repertory or file of this kind
[11:02] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat, no not adept-manager
[11:02] <onlineapps> my bad
[11:02] <robin_> #kubuntu-fr
[11:02] <onlineapps> adept_manager
[11:02] <FroggyTheGreat> "could not run the specified command"
[11:02] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude update/install program_name
[11:02] <MidMark> ar53n: sorry type -> cd /home/ar53n/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam
[11:02] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: adept_manager being the gui and aptitude being a text-based one
[11:02] <irvken> Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver".
[11:02] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: sorry, its adept_manager
[11:03] <irvken> but there is no administartion entry in my System menu
[11:03] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: well, sudo adept_manager
[11:03] <FroggyTheGreat> sudo: adept_manager: command not found
[11:03] <lespea> !
[11:03] <ar53n> MidMark : good news it work
[11:03] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok.  Um.
[11:03] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: do you have adept?
[11:03] <FroggyTheGreat> I do, yes.  It doesn't run now though,.
[11:04] <ar53n> MidMark : sorry if im so ... like.... heum newb n stuff =/
[11:04] <lespea> sudo aptitude install adept
[11:04] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: try adept_installer
[11:04] <FroggyTheGreat> not found
[11:04] <Dhraakellian> Froggy's story as I understand it: while trying to find the right packages to install so that kirocker could be compiled, kdelibs got (re)installed, and restarts and such, well, didn't go smoothly
[11:05] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraak is correct
[11:05] <Pollywog> vmware installed but it complains it cannot start the EULA, so I think the alien command did not work, I will need to use the tarball
[11:05] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: then you could just use adept
[11:05] <FroggyTheGreat> But adept doesn't want to run.
[11:05] <ardchoille> How do I stop kbluetoothd from starting when I log into kde?
[11:05] <onlineapps> or try installing synaptic
[11:05] <onlineapps> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:05] <onlineapps> it works just as well
[11:05] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: define "doesn't run"
[11:06] <Dhraakellian> since I seem to remember you saying something about a lock file
[11:06] <MidMark> ar53n: oh my god! The light!
[11:06] <MidMark> :P
[11:06] <FroggyTheGreat> From the k-menu, it thinks about it for a bit (I get the cursor and the taskbar entry) and then it just...goes away.
[11:06] <ar53n> FINALLY
[11:06] <FroggyTheGreat> From the command line: "command not found"
[11:06] <ar53n> D[11:06] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: I think you may have uninstalled adept by accident
[11:06] <Dhraakellian> apt-get install adept?
[11:06] <onlineapps> have you tried installing it by using apt-get?
[11:06] <ar53n> Now it just says that my password is bad r smtin lol
[11:06] <telemako> hello
[11:06] <onlineapps> or aptitude?
[11:06] <FroggyTheGreat> <-- Linux newb, by the way.
[11:07] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: open Konsole, type in (without quotes) "sudo aptitude install adept"
[11:07] <onlineapps> and hit enter
[11:07] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: Join us, and we shall rule the world, father and son, and brother, and uncle, and...
[11:07] <Pollywog> and pollywog?
[11:07] <FroggyTheGreat> I just started it with apt-get.
[11:07] <FroggyTheGreat> Looks like it's doing something.
[11:07] <telemako> just installed festy cd-rom, KNetworkManager does not connect to my wifi, but I made it manually, the problem is that I can surf webs with Konkeror, and apt-get update freezes at half, can't reach some servers, any help?
[11:08] <FroggyTheGreat> adept
[11:08] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: that's fine, its ok
[11:08] <FroggyTheGreat> Whoops
[11:08] <FroggyTheGreat> Looks like it installed.
[11:08] <Dhraakellian> yay!
[11:08] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: now try running adept_manager
[11:08] <Pollywog> now see if it croaks
[11:08] <telemako> can anyone tellme a short sources.list ?
[11:09] <FroggyTheGreat> It's running....and looks like it's running correctly.
[11:09] <ar53n> MidMarks : works great , lets install css DUDE U FUCKIN ROCK OMFG
[11:09] <ar53n> MidMark : you should work for ubuntu lol
[11:09] <Pollywog> !ohmy
[11:09] <telemako> does anyone read me? -_-
[11:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:09] <Dhraakellian> Pollywog: the missing backstory is that I'm froggy's brother in a family of geeks
[11:09] <Pollywog> oic
[11:10] <onlineapps> hey, anyone know why my /dev/dsp isn't letting me access it?
[11:10] <FroggyTheGreat> And my job let me telecommunte and therefore I /had/ to use their OS.
[11:10] <Pollywog> oic
[11:10] <MidMark> ar53n: good
[11:10] <FroggyTheGreat> So Adept is running now.  How should I go about backing out my changes?
[11:10] <FroggyTheGreat> Or is it borked and I need to reinstall stuff?
[11:10] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: just out of curiosity, what version of kdelibs do you have installed?
[11:10] <telemako> Please, I need a sources.list for apt with the shorter possible, can anyone help me?
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Adept says I don'
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> t have kdelibs installed.
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Um.
[11:11] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[11:11] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: maybe you should install kdelibs
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> How about I do that...
[11:11] <jetpig> hey i can't add splash screens to ksplash
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Doing so now.  We'll see how it goes.
[11:11] <jetpig> i browse to the folder where i have it saved
[11:12] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: and remember the preview button
[11:12] <jetpig> and it doesn't list the theme.rc file to add it
[11:12] <Dhraakellian> I'm guessing that you uninstalled kdelibs instead of installing it
[11:12] <FroggyTheGreat> Adept crashed.
[11:12] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: open Konsole, and type in "sudo aptitude install kdelibs"
[11:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Aaaaand: bash: adept-manager: command not found
[11:13] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: don't use adept anymore, try sudo aptitude install kdelibs
[11:13] <Dhraakellian> or would aptitude show the preview automatically?
[11:13] <Tm_T> hi Dhraakellian
[11:14] <onlineapps> Dhraakellian: I think aptitude shows preview automatically
[11:14] <FroggyTheGreat> onlineapps - I did that, no packagages inbstalled, upgraded, or removed.
[11:14] <Dhraakellian> okay
[11:14] <onlineapps> hmm
[11:14] <Dhraakellian> Tm_T: from where do I know you?
[11:14] <onlineapps> maybe a reinstall?
[11:14] <onlineapps> of kdelibs?
[11:14] <Dhraakellian> #amarok?
[11:14] <onlineapps> or not
[11:14] <onlineapps> idk
[11:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Reinstall with what method?
[11:15] <onlineapps> not really sure
[11:15] <onlineapps> you could try running sudo aptitude remove kdelibs and then sudo aptitude install kdelibs, but that might mess you up
[11:15] <onlineapps> idk
[11:15] <Dhraakellian> worth a shot, perhaps
[11:15] <Tm_T> Dhraakellian: I wonder in how many times you or someone with similar nick I have been talking to in kde-related channels in past two years
[11:15] <onlineapps> you could also do what I just do every time I have a problem: reinstalling via disk
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> ah, right
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> Tm_T: your nick looks familiar, but it also looks similar to someone from another network
[11:16] <Tm_T> heh
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> which is why I asked
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> (a certain TMT)
[11:16] <Tm_T> aww, he's cheap copy!
[11:17] <Dhraakellian> anyway...
[11:17] <FroggyTheGreat> Um.
[11:17] <Dhraakellian> onlineapps: how safe is that?  any risk of overwriting /home?
[11:17] <FroggyTheGreat> I really hate to think I could have borked my system enough to require a CD reinstall by just using the package manager...
[11:18] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: I doubt its that bad
[11:18] <FroggyTheGreat> I have no idea what I'm doing.  I'm sure, given another couple months with this, I'd be able to fix it instinctively.
[11:18] <Pollywog> that is why I use apt-get
[11:18] <onlineapps> have you done some googling for the problem?
[11:19] <Pollywog> I am afraid of the gui breaking stuff
[11:19] <khazz> hi all
[11:20] <khazz> i got problem with the internet connection
[11:20] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, Got adept_manager running again, and it says that kdelibs are installed.
[11:20] <khazz> anyone know how to troubleshoot?
[11:20] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: try a reboot
[11:20] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: any problems elsewhere?
[11:20] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: I'll call you if you're not back in 15 minutes or so
[11:21] <FroggyTheGreat> Restart KDE enough, or a full reboot?
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> on IM, at least
[11:21] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: full reboot
[11:21] <FroggyTheGreat> brb.
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> I'd think restarting X11/KDE would be enough, but a full reboot can't hurt
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> (much?)
[11:22] <Dhraakellian> noooo... mass exodus starting?
[11:22] <Dhraakellian> oh, that was a join there
[11:24] <jetpig> anyone heard of my problem?
[11:24] <ar53n> what ur problem jetpig?
[11:25] <FroggyTheGreat> Aaright.  Rebooted, and the problem is still there in all its manifestations
[11:25] <jetpig> i can't get ksplash to load up any new themes
[11:25] <ar53n> i dont know whats ksplash sorry
[11:25] <jetpig> i browse to where i've untarred them and the browser wont' see the theme.rc file
[11:25] <ar53n> ask google
[11:25] <ar53n> =(
[11:26] <ar53n> ive installed linux yesterday so...
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: did you say that (re)installing kubuntu-desktop didn't show any changes?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Holy crap, it can't find Konquerer either.
[11:26] <jetpig> *chuckle*
[11:26] <spitwise> .
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: firefox?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Um.  More and more I'm thinking I need to reinstall KDE
[11:26] <ar53n> Does anyone know where i can find some driver for my G7? or a place where i can slow down the sensitivity
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> mozilla-firefox?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Firefox works.
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: yeah, that'd probably be the way to go
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Heh.
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> How do I go about doing that?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> <-- ack
[11:27] <Dhraakellian> What is Kubuntu's KDE meta-package named?
[11:27] <Dhraakellian> How does one go about (re)installing KDE?
[11:28] <ar53n> lespea u there?
[11:29] <tarelerulz> I am installing java from sun with adept  and I have licene and I read it ,but I don't know what to do next my install has stoped
[11:30] <ar53n> tarelerulz : once ur install is finished
[11:30] <ar53n> tarelerulz : you click on apply change
[11:30] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: does "sudo aptitude install kde" show any changes?
[11:30] <jovans> have anybody appamor runs under feisty?
[11:31] <Dhraakellian> I'm guessing for package names here, so if someone else wants to help out...
[11:31] <ar53n> What package name?
[11:31] <tarelerulz> I found the package and then I did apply change and It download the package and when I pushed details
[11:31] <tarelerulz> I see the licence
[11:31] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraakellian - Can't find the module.
[11:31] <tarelerulz> It says something about package configure
[11:31] <ar53n> tarelerulz : you're done ur program is installed
[11:32] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: kde-meta? kde-desktop? kubuntu-desktop?   Does anyone here know offhand the meta-package to reinstall KDE?
[11:32] <tarelerulz> if it is done why does it not go back to the main menu
[11:32] <olafski> hello, I'm installing kubuntu and I'm just wondering what the (hd0) means, where grub is installed.. how can I find out exactly which drive that is?
[11:33] <Dhraakellian> olafski: same things as hda, I think
[11:33] <FroggyTheGreat> It's a hard drive partition
[11:33] <olafski> hmm.. but I have a hda and hdb, and I don't want grub on those two
[11:33] <Dhraakellian> first drive, I think there'd need to be more info attached to that to determine which partition it means
[11:33] <tarelerulz> I found what I was doing wrong . I am not familar with installing sun java with adept
[11:33] <Pollywog> dang I entered the correct vmware serial but it did not work
[11:33] <olafski> I'm installing it on sda and as such would prefer grub to be on that drive
[11:34] <Dhraakellian> olafski: I think hd0 would be hda
[11:34] <Dhraakellian> iirc
[11:34] <ar53n> does anyone know a good driver or prog i could download for my G7?
[11:34] <FroggyTheGreat> Ahain - Does anyone know how to uninstall and reinstall KDE?
[11:34] <ar53n> Its going 2 fast
[11:34] <FroggyTheGreat> ahain=again, sorry.
[11:34] <sdlnxgk> Ok did something very wrong.... moved a folder containing all my downloads and now it's gone how can I get them back???
[11:35] <ar53n> ...
[11:35] <ar53n> trash?
[11:37] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: doesnt sound good, but I think "sudo apt-get --remove kubuntu-desktop" then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <tarelerulz> I can't install firefox .
[11:37] <Stardog> so... I have a picture that I want as kmenu icon... how do i do that in fiesty?
[11:37] <FroggyTheGreat> bonbonthejon - thank you.
[11:38] <benjamin> hi, I did install compiz/beryl on a dell/nvida notebook. If I start the beryl-manger the windows-borders disapear . . anyone an idea whats missing?
[11:38] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: sorry, first command is "sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop"
[11:39] <FroggyTheGreat> Thank you.
[11:39] <bonbonthejon> !beryl | benjamin
[11:39] <ubotu> benjamin: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:40] <FroggyTheGreat> IT WORKED!
[11:40] <FroggyTheGreat> THANK YOU
[11:40] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: how did you try to install it
[11:40] <Dhraakellian> Yay!
[11:40] <Dhraakellian> Now!  back to the *original* problem
[11:40] <FroggyTheGreat> Gonna restart X11, brb.
[11:40] <Dhraakellian> what is needed for Froggy to install/compile Kirocker?
[11:41] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: kicker?
[11:41] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: kirocker.  It's a kicker applet that interacts with amarok
[11:41] <SubOne> Why does my router show my laptops host name but not my desktop?
[11:41] <Dhraakellian> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52869
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> ar53n, tried looking there it's not there
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> ar53n, I think it would be too big for trash
[11:42] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: dowload the source and compile
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> gonna  try to use mc and file recovery
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> anyone know of any good file recovery programs
[11:42] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: yeah, but what would he need in order to compile it?
[11:43] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: build-essential is the package
[11:43] <Dhraakellian> I'll pass that on
[11:43] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: any -dev packages?
[11:43] <Dhraakellian> qt-dev, kde -devs?
[11:43] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: depends on the package
[11:44] <SubOne> Does anyone know why my router show my laptop's host name but not my desktop hostname?
[11:44] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: so, in other words, install build-essential and then see what ./configure complains about?
[11:45] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: yeah, build-essential is the compiler, it depends on what the software needs
[11:45] <OptimusRex> I need to delete the partition I installed kubuntu on from the live cd. Can anyone help
[11:45] <Cnl_Delta> hi which country sources get update first. seems india lags behind the uk repos
[11:46] <gan|y|med> hi
[11:46] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: there should be a partition manager
[11:46] <OptimusRex> where?
[11:46] <tarelerulz>  bonbonthejon I install firefox , its java plugin.
[11:46] <gan|y|med> how can convince my opera browser to open rfd files (rss feeds) akregator?
[11:46] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: the installer has one
[11:46] <bonbonthejon> !java | tarelerulz
[11:46] <ubotu> tarelerulz: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:46] <tarelerulz> The fun part is I can't run firefox and I don't evern get an error it just don't come up
[11:47] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: did you install from the repositories
[11:47] <OptimusRex> tried that but it seems it does not delete the partition since when i try to boot from the hard disk it still picks the old kubuntu
[11:47] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: then you can use the command line fdisk
[11:47] <OptimusRex> I need it to stop doing that and boot from the windows on the other partition
[11:47] <tarelerulz> I did instlall jave and firefox with my upgraded kubuntu 7.04
[11:47] <OptimusRex> tell me about the fdisk
[11:47] <gan|y|med> tarelerulz: i just came in here, but have you tried it in a console?
[11:48] <bonbonthejon> !fdisl
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <OptimusRex> how do i fdisk
[11:48] <bonbonthejon> !fdisk
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <Dhraakellian> fd, Froggy
[11:48] <Dhraakellian> how goes?
[11:48] <flattersr> to fdisk you need to go into msdos
[11:48] <flattersr> and look for fdisk
[11:49] <bonbonthejon> flattersr: no, there is one for linux
[11:49] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: open konsole, and run "sudo fdisk -l
[11:49] <FroggyTheGreat> And now KDE is running (I think) perfectly, and kubuntu-desktop is not installed.  Is that normal?
[11:50] <FroggyTheGreat> Sorry, missed the first line there - I did an uninstall purge of kubuntu desktop from a non-graphical login.
[11:50] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, so, even if it's not 'normal', I think it's okay
[11:50] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: yeah, kubuntu-desktop installs a lot of software, but if you dont use it, you can remove it
[11:50] <FroggyTheGreat> What will I "get" if I reinstall it?
[11:50] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: all the software that comes when you do a fresh install
[11:50] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: if you remove something that kubuntu-desktop requires, you can just remove it also
[11:51] <OptimusRex> sudo fdisk -l is done and there are a number of devices. How do I delete?
[11:51] <tarelerulz> gan|y|med , I have run firefox from xterm and I don't get any error or anything
[11:51] <Dhraakellian> OptimusRex: cfdisk might be easier
[11:51] <Dhraakellian> the 'c' stands for "curses", if I'm not mistaken
[11:52] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok.  Now the original original question - what packages do I need to compile/install Kirocker?
[11:52] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: didnt know about cfdisk, and it is a curses program
[11:52] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: install build-essential
[11:52] <OptimusRex> fatal error: Cannot open disk drive. press any key to exit
[11:52] <Dhraakellian> still a good idea to be careful with fdisk-like things, no matter whether they're GUI, strictly cli, or text-based GUI
[11:52] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: run "sudo cfdisk"
[11:53] <tarelerulz> This may sound dumb ,but where does konqueror default download files to?
[11:53] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: your home directory, i believe
[11:53] <OptimusRex> I have fatal error: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions. Press any key to exit cfdisk
[11:54] <FroggyTheGreat> Got build-essentials installed.  Dhraak, do you still have the link?
[11:54] <OptimusRex> have sda2, sda5, sda6 and sda7 under sudo fdisk
[11:54] <OptimusRex> what's my next move?
[11:54] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: to kirocker?  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52869
[11:54] <Dhraakellian> but don't you already have it downloaded?
[11:54] <tarelerulz> I don't see it in my home directory
[11:54] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: download the source and extract it
[11:55] <Pollywog> vmware server will not compile the modules but it seems workstation does
[11:55] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: pick the partition you want to delete
[11:55] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: download the source and extract it
[11:55] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[11:55] <tarelerulz> I have had nothing ,but trouble with this install. I could not update it easy and I think a lot of my packages are broken too.
[11:55] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: sorry
[11:55] <mefisto__> I've just installed beryl, got it working ok, except that I can't log in with a beryl session automatically. (I followed this ubuntu-specific howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon_p3?s=dcb9b68c0d600ab82be00f19d334f2d2&)
[11:55] <Pollywog> anyone else having trouble getting the server to work?
[11:55] <Pollywog> vmware server
[11:56] <Pollywog> oh I forgot
[11:56] <Pollywog> !vmware | pollywog
[11:56] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: you might be better backing up and reinstalling
[11:56] <OptimusRex> how do I delete partitions from fdisk
[11:56] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: fdisk or cfdisk
[11:56] <OptimusRex> prefer fdisk
[11:57] <OptimusRex> it's showing the partitions
[11:57] <OptimusRex> how do I proceed and delete some partitions
[11:57] <tarelerulz> I mean when I had kubuntu 6.10 it had problems.  It seem to have the same problems when I upgraded to 7.04.
[11:57] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: np
[11:58] <OptimusRex> what happened?
[11:58] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: command d, deletes a partition
[11:58] <OptimusRex> how do I specify which partition
[11:58] <OptimusRex> and do I say sudo d?
[11:58] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: enter the d command, then it should ask which you want to delete
[11:59] <gan|y|med> so any opera users here, that might give me a clue why opera does not open rfd with akregator, though rfd files have been added as mimtype?
[11:59] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: no, when you are in "sudo fdisk DEVICE", then do l to list, then d to delete
[12:00] <GrueTamer> cfdisk is easier for new users to use than fdisk :P
[12:00] <bonbonthejon> GrueTamer: true, but he wanted fdisk
[12:00] <GrueTamer> his choice
[12:01] <cprgmswr2> Hi, how do I install kubuntu without overiding my current grub configuration?
[12:01] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, so when I try to compile Kirocker via the instructions on it's page, using this command - ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix) && make && sudo make install, I get an error, lemme copy it...
[12:01] <GrueTamer> cprgmswr2: do you currently have ubuntu installed?
[12:01] <cprgmswr2> I have gentoo installed
[12:01] <FroggyTheGreat> ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix) && make && sudo make install
[12:01] <GrueTamer> so you want to...get rid of gentoo, or resize it and make room?
[12:01] <bonbonthejon> cprgmswr2: grub can choose between then
[12:01] <cprgmswr2> I don't want it to mess with my gentoo boot partition
[12:01] <FroggyTheGreat> Argh.
[12:02] <cprgmswr2> I want to duel boot with gentoo
[12:02] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: if its too long, pastebin it
[12:02] <bonbonthejon> !pastebin | FroggyTheGreat
[12:02] <ubotu> FroggyTheGreat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <GrueTamer> cprgmswr2: im not quite sure how to do this, but i bet you can just tell the kubuntu installer not to install grub
[12:02] <FroggyTheGreat> /bin/bash: ./configure: No such file or directory <cr/lf>make: *** [config.status]  Error 127
[12:02] <cprgmswr2> There is no option for that?
[12:03] <GrueTamer> cprgmswr2: if theres no option for it, then perhaps you could get the minimal cd, install the barebones system, and then use apt-get to get the kubuntu desktop
[12:03] <GrueTamer> that might work
[12:03] <Sanne> GrueTamer, cprgmswr2: if I remember correctly, the live cd will install grub without asking, but the alternate cd asks you.
[12:03] <GrueTamer> well, that works too
[12:03] <GrueTamer> but i like the barebones cd, its nice and small
[12:04] <Sanne> GrueTamer: yep. also nice
[12:04] <Dhraakellian> cprgmswr2: whereas I'm just planing to do a complete backup of my gentoo root dir for easy reinstalling later
[12:04] <GrueTamer> my only problem with it is i dont know how to make it load my nic card driver that i have on a floppy disk before i start installing it
[12:04] <cprgmswr2> okay so use the alternative cd?
[12:04] <GrueTamer> i didnt check if it had a full CLI, but i dont think it does
[12:05] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: hows it coming?
[12:05] <GrueTamer> but i could use one of the alternate cd's to install a minimal environment...
[12:05] <cprgmswr2> brb
[12:07] <SubOne> Does anyone know why my router show my laptop's host name but not my desktop hostname?
[12:07] <FroggyTheGreat> bonbonthejon - optimistic.  I had to install automake 1.9, and I'm running the compile now.
[12:07] <ar53n> Does anyone know how to slow down the mice speed?!
[12:07] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: what router
[12:07] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: I seem to remember seeing something like that in the googling that I did
[12:07] <leiar> i've reinstalled kubuntu and forgotten how i installed flashplayer and java, anyone?
[12:07] <CPrgmSwR2> Okay going to download the alternative cd
[12:07] <ar53n> with adept
[12:08] <bonbonthejon> !flash | leiar
[12:08] <ar53n> leir : use adept
[12:08] <ubotu> leiar: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:08] <ar53n> !mice
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <ar53n> !mouse
[12:08] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:08] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: Linksys WRT54GS
[12:08] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: what firmware
[12:08] <Dhraakellian> !restricted
[12:08] <Pollywog> will vmware server install in Feisty?  I could only get workstation 6 beta to install
[12:08] <Sanne> ar53n: it's in system settings under mouse->advanced
[12:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: if you have trouble with those divx avi's, try taking a look at that last oe
[12:09] <OptimusRex> how do I get out of command (m for help): ?
[12:09] <fdoving> OptimusRex: q
[12:09] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: its asking for a command, q is to quit
[12:09] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: Firmware Version:v1.52.0
[12:09] <Sanne> OptimusRex: or type m and it will tell you ;)
[12:10] <OptimusRex> thanks
[12:10] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: I suggest using DD-WRT, but thats me
[12:10] <Pollywog> I use DD-WRT
[12:10] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: i think its a client issue though not the router
[12:10] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: the desktop might not be registered with the dns server
[12:10] <Pollywog> so it's not just you
[12:11] <bonbonthejon> Pollywog: isnt it great?
[12:11] <Pollywog> yes it is :)
[12:11] <Pollywog> I even use the wifi with my ubuntu laptop
[12:11] <Pollywog> WPA
[12:11] <ernie> Pollywog - check out the ubuntu forums for installing the vmware server - there are a few things to do to get it working
[12:12] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: well how can i do that, or where can i look to compare settings between my laptop and desktop so i can see what my desktop is missing
[12:12] <Pollywog> ernie: ty I will check the forums
[12:12] <bonbonthejon> Pollywog: i'm thinking of setting another one and using it in client mode to add ethernet to the basemet
[12:12] <Pollywog> Workstation seems to function, the version 6 beta, and that is probably good enough
[12:12] <OptimusRex> I have /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7. How do I delete sda6?
[12:12] <Pollywog> I don't know what the upgrade will cost me
[12:12] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: look at host names, but you should look at ip addresses before host names
[12:13] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: are you in fdisk?
[12:13] <Pollywog> check your basement for radon, it is a good precaution
[12:13] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: where is that information?
[12:13] <OptimusRex> yes
[12:13] <OptimusRex> in fdisk
[12:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Okay, back from a few unsuccessful attemtps.
[12:13] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: use d to delete, then it should ask for the partition