[06:49] <amigamia> hello
[06:50] <amigamia> anything special i need to be wary of when i install ubuntu server 6.x?
[06:53] <amigamia> which should i run 6 or 7?
[06:53] <amigamia> ?????
[06:53] <foo> 6 or 7? 
[06:53] <foo> Oh, nevermind.
[06:54] <foo> amigamia: You should run what you want ... 
[06:54] <foo> 6 is recommended due to its 5 year support cycle
[06:54] <foo> I would do that, anyways
[06:54] <amigamia> ok
[06:54] <amigamia> i made the cd today at work
[06:54] <foo> oh, nice
[06:54] <amigamia> i will install it tomorrow.
[06:54] <foo> ok :)
[06:54] <amigamia> yes :)
[06:54] <amigamia> i want to install ubuntu on all the workstations 
[06:55] <foo> Does everyone know how to use ubuntu?
[06:55] <amigamia> run wine and keep a couple laptops around there for windows but i want to rid the place of windows. 
[06:55] <foo> hehe
[06:55] <amigamia> well i will have a class on the use and create some cheat sheets and/or pages for them to use for instructions online.
[06:55] <amigamia> i'll see.
[06:55] <sahafeez> question - if i am running 6 and do a aptitute update then upgrade will i be around the same software levels as 6
[06:55] <sahafeez> as 7 that is
[06:55] <amigamia> is horde included in the installation?
[06:56] <foo> sahafeez: Nope
[06:56] <sahafeez> so i have the issue of the drivers for my server are not in 6 and i cannot install it
[06:56] <foo> amigamia: hmm, looks like horde2 and 3
[06:56] <amigamia> i was looking at the perfect install pages and i was wondering whether the install is fully scripted? secondly it says to run an update however i just downloaded the iso today and i am not sure if it is up to date or not?
[06:56] <amigamia> cool
[06:57] <foo> amigamia: I'd run the update
[06:57] <amigamia> 2 has some severe vulnerablilites
[06:57] <amigamia> yes
[06:57] <amigamia> i will
[06:57] <amigamia> is the backup automated?
[06:57] <amigamia> will it backup to a usb hdd?
[06:57] <foo> amigamia: It'll do whatever you tell it to :) Welcome to linux
[06:57] <amigamia> i need to get it right this time. tired of rebuilding the server over and over.
[06:58] <amigamia> foo ;)
[06:58] <foo> Although, you probably want to have some shared network system and backup files to that, maybe.
[06:58] <foo> Depending on the environment
[06:58] <amigamia> what about the firewall, should i have like ipcop in front of it or that pfsense?
[06:58] <amigamia> or is the one included sufficient?
[06:59] <foo> Hm, not too sure about the one included. I actually don't use anything. I have a firewall on my router.
[06:59] <foo> Remember, this is linux, not windodws ;)
[06:59] <foo> windows*
[06:59] <amigamia> ;)
[06:59] <amigamia> i want to have as much as possible on that baby :)
[07:00] <amigamia> i was looking at this today. 
[07:01] <amigamia> http://cgi.ebay.com/Microway-MW-1U-Dual-Pentium-4-Xeon-2-6GHz-Server_W0QQitemZ290111523196QQihZ019QQcategoryZ1484QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[07:03] <amigamia> think that is a good deal?
[07:04] <foo> You buy it?
[07:05] <amigamia> thinkig to
[07:05] <amigamia> will contact the man 
[07:05] <foo> It was already bought
[07:05] <amigamia> yes but he has 3
[07:05] <foo> ahh, I see
[07:06] <sahafeez> is not 64 bit
[07:06] <sahafeez> so not worth it
[07:07] <foo> amigamia: To be honest, not too sure. I usually don't have to deal with that kind of stuff.
[07:07] <amigamia> ahh your right! i forgot about that! :D
[07:07] <amigamia> ohh
[07:08] <amigamia> are you a foo fighter?
[07:09] <foo> :D 
[07:09] <amigamia> i knew it!!!!
[07:09] <amigamia> a foo fighter!
[07:09] <amigamia> ;D
[07:09] <amigamia> brb
[08:14] <levander> Anyone here use moinmoin?  I'm trying to figure out what the hell happened to it during my Feisty upgrade.
[08:15] <foo> Well, what's it doing?
[08:17] <levander> I know I was using it under Edgy, and I only had the "moin" package installed (according to a log I kept).  And packages.ubuntu.com doesn't even show a moin package for Edgy.  python-moinmoin is apparently what you're supposed to have to have moin installed.  It's not installed on my machine.
[08:17] <levander> When I pull up the URL that it used to run from, I get some "Internal Server Error" message from Apache.
[08:18] <levander> I just went back to previous distros.  Apparently, back in breezy there was a package just called moin.
[08:19] <levander> I must have had that package in there back from those days, the upgrade to dapper didn't remove it...
[08:19] <levander> And finally, when I got to Feisty, somehow that moin package was removed...
[08:20] <levander> That's what I'm betting happened (something like that, I wasn't very specific)
[08:20] <levander> Man the upgrade issues...
[08:21] <levander> I've been upgrading this box since Warty
[08:21] <levander> Upgrading to Edgy, they dropped an old meta-package for kernels that I was using.  So, my kernel wasn't upgraded.
[08:21] <levander> My old kernel didn't play with the new udev in Edgy.
[08:21] <levander> Took three days to get my system back.
[05:02] <amigamia> i have an external Backpack CD-Rewriter, will ubuntu be able to access this? it uses the 25pin serial port.
[06:47] <hansin321> hello\