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cellofellowI have a hard drive with the first partition in order on the drive is hdb2, while the second is hdb1. I'd like to reverse this. If I use cfdisk to fix up the partition table, so that hdb1 is 2 and vica versa, will that work?12:32
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xjkxa good tool for developing websites would be:01:40
xjkx?01:42
TheSheepvim is good01:42
xjkxnah01:42
xjkxisnt my focus01:42
xjkxi am not a webmaster, i need fast things01:42
TheSheepvim+inkscape+gimp, you need nothing more (inkscape is optional)01:42
TheSheepxjkx: well, use google pages then ;)01:42
xjkxnah ;] 01:43
xjkxi cant believe linux hasnt a similar to dreamweaver01:43
TheSheepxjkx: has a number of such editors, but wywiswyg www is crap01:43
xjkxits not professional thing, i would like to make a page to my father sell his cars, but i dont want to waste much time on it neither01:44
xjkxthose programs would help01:45
xjkxI will waste time on mysql already01:45
xjkxbut i dont mean to make a blank page with links haha01:45
xjkxnot that he would care, but i would01:46
Jester45can you use ssh on a remote computer, like over the internet01:48
xjkxyes you can, if you were asking about my server ,no01:48
Jester45xjkx: there or many such programs01:49
Jester45no it has nothing to do with your machine01:49
TheSheepxjkx: there is nvu, quanta, mozilla composer...01:49
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TheSheepxjkx: http://gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=6901:50
xjkxJester45: i didnt get your last question01:50
xjkxTheSheep: thanks01:50
xjkxsomehow nvu isnt in apt, but will do my way01:51
Jester45i was just wondering if ssh -X only worked on lans01:51
tonyyarusso!nvu | xjkx01:51
ubotuxjkx: nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.01:51
xjkxquanta = kdelibs01:51
xjkxkk01:52
Jester45use nvu01:52
TheSheepthere is also bluefish01:52
TheSheepand the composer from seamonkey01:52
xjkx!Greenhunter01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about greenhunter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
TheSheepwonder why anyoobdy ever wastes time to write those wysiwyg web editors :/01:53
xjkxwhats Greenhunter, a similar to nvu?01:53
TheSheepnever heard of it01:53
xjkxTheSheep: no time to create from 001:53
xjkxTheSheep: greenhunter is named here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty01:53
TheSheepxjkx: there are templates, styles, tutorials, themes, ready web apps -- no need to create from scratch01:54
xjkx-installing bluefish- -prays its good-01:54
TheSheepxjkx: don't expect to get all the features of dreamweaver :)01:55
xjkxdont ever remember how dreamweaver was, just said that to make it clear what i wanted ;] 01:55
xjkxi am not a webmaster anyway, but i understand the basic01:55
xjkxi liked :o01:56
xjkxit has php thing also :d01:57
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xjkxTheSheep: nvu is left out, not more being developed then isnt in apt-get, mozilla composer i cant find, is there another name? i like blufish but would like to check mozilla composer also02:04
TheSheepxjkx: mozilla is one package with everything together02:04
TheSheepxjkx: it's web browser, mail reader and page composer02:05
TheSheepxjkx: seamonkey is an opensource version02:05
xjkxwhich mozilla '/usr/bin/mozilla' then i have it :D where is the composer02:05
TheSheepxjkx: there should be an option in the menu02:05
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domenichello02:13
domenicthe package w32codecs doesnt exist, but i need it to play mp3's02:13
domenicis there some alternative?02:14
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TheSheepdomenic: you don't need it for mp3's02:14
TheSheep!mp3 | domenic02:15
ubotudomenic: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:15
domenici tried doing it this way before02:18
domenic"Click Applications  Add/Remove." is the first instruction on this page02:18
domenicbut where exactly is this "applications"02:18
Jester45so i want to ssh into a winxp system and i have a few questions, first how could i figure out the hostname.domainname suff02:18
Jester45domenic: they are meaning the menu02:19
xjkxTheSheep: the mozilla i have is the mozilla that comes in xubuntu, and its a script that calls firefox, and firefox has no composer ;o02:19
Jester45with the name Applications02:19
xjkx mozilla -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla02:19
xjkxits a link02:19
Jester45domenic: bottom left corner02:19
Jester45and the other question i have is can i get "X forwarding" with windows or is it only cli, i know windows doesnt have X02:20
xjkx!composer02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
xjkx!mozilla composer02:20
domenicthere is no ADD/REMOVE in the menu02:20
xjkx!mozilla02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
Jester45domenic: menu -> system -> add/remove02:20
domenicthere is also no add/remove in system02:21
Jester45domenic: and w32codecs is not in the *ubuntu repo, so you have to get it else ware but it linked to a package so apt knows about it02:22
Jester45domenic: what version of xubuntu02:22
domenicxfce 4.202:23
Jester45so, feisty then02:23
domenicyup, the newest release02:24
Jester45it should be there02:24
Jester45you must of messed with the system menu.xml02:25
domenici just re-installed xubuntu02:25
domenicis there anothe way to bring up the Add/Remove app02:27
Jester45yea but i dont know the name for the add/remove02:28
Jester45you could use any other package manager like aptitude and synaptic02:29
domenici use synaptic02:30
domenicwhere do i go from there02:30
Jester45idk depends on what your wanting02:32
domenicClick Applications  Add/Remove. In the top right, change the setting to All available applications. Then select Other in the left panel and then select the Ubuntu restricted extras package. Click OK.02:34
Jester45no like what are you trying to use02:36
domenican mp3 file02:36
Jester45on what player02:37
domenicxfmedia02:37
Jester45that i think would be libxine-dirty  but i will look02:37
Pumpernickellibxine1-ffmpeg02:39
Jester45i dont see the restricted extras02:39
Jester45there you go02:39
Jester45idk what i was thinking02:39
Jester45Pumpernickel: do you know package close to what i said02:40
PumpernickelMaybe the 'ugly' set of gstreamer plugins.02:41
domenici couldnt find that package02:41
Jester45yea thats it02:42
domenici used synaptic and terminal command apt02:42
Jester45well i was kinda close02:42
Pumpernickellibxine1-ffmpeg is for Feisty.  If you're on an earlier release, you'd need libxine-extracodecs.02:44
domenicthat package also does not appear02:46
PumpernickelThen you haven't enabled the universe repository.02:47
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ubuntunerohello, is there an ubuntu "base" iso, light enough to remaster with reconstructor?02:52
PumpernickelPossibly the minimal iso.02:58
Pumpernickel!minimal02:58
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD02:58
ubuntunerothanks for the suggestions. I am going to check it out.03:04
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Jester45anyone here know of a free 100k download proxy?03:07
Jester45k/s that is03:07
vidda download proxy?03:08
Jester45yea or general proxy03:09
Jester45i would like to try out ssh compressed connections03:09
viddwhat is a download proxy03:10
Jester45o yea it needs to be ssh able03:10
viddJester45, i have a box that taks ssh....03:10
viddbut i would like to know what you are going top try03:11
Jester45hehe wanna let me in to try it out03:11
viddwhat does it do?03:11
viddis it going to wipe out my box?03:11
Jester45i will download idk maybe a linux iso03:11
vidd=] 03:11
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Jester45no it uses ssh to compress my connection to the server03:12
viddlet me make you an account....03:12
viddwhat kind of rights you need?03:12
Jester45so i download from your box at as my 100kb/s and you download at say 150 from the server03:12
Jester45and compress it down to my speed then i uncompress03:12
Jester45idk im just trying out this03:13
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Jester45i want to get you machine to act like a proxy for me03:13
Jester45your*03:13
viddhmmm03:13
viddwhat do i need running on it?>03:14
Jester45idk if just plain ssh can do that03:14
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Jester45i will give you a link to the base of what im doing03:14
factotumanyone know what i need to edit to set my fonts dpi to 120?03:14
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Jester45http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Compressed-TCP.html03:15
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Jester45im really looking to find a free sshable proxy03:16
viddcome to #unofficial Jester4503:17
Jester45sire03:17
Jester45sure03:17
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Pumpernickelfactotum: http://tinyurl.com/33r6qr has a howto.03:18
factotumlol i was just about to open my editor after reading that03:19
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TheSheepfun fact of the day: if you click on the scrollbar with tthe middle mouse button, it will immediatelly scroll to that spot03:47
viddcool trick03:48
TheSheepwonder why they didn't use the right mouse button for anything03:49
Jester45anyone here a network wizard?03:51
Jester45or just really good at ssh03:51
TheSheep!ask | Jester4503:52
ubotuJester45: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:52
Jester45i dont quite know my question03:53
TheSheepJester45: we have time03:53
Jester45TheSheep: join #unofficial03:53
Jester45please03:54
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domenicwhat is a good search utility?03:58
Jester45searching what03:58
domenicfiles on a computer03:58
TheSheeplocate and find03:58
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TheSheeplocate is fatser and siplier, find is very powerful and universal03:59
domenici was told to use konquerer but i believe that is also an internet tool03:59
viddkonquerer is a KDE multi-purpose browser...04:00
TheSheepkonqueror is a KDE web and file browser, xubuntu uses firefox and thunar for that04:00
viddlike windows exploer in M$04:00
TheSheepdomenic: if you want a GUI file finder, try catfish04:00
TheSheepdomenic: you can isntall it with synaptic04:00
domenici just did a search for catfish on synaptic with nothing in return04:03
TheSheep!info catfish04:03
ubotucatfish: A file search tool that support several different engines. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 144 kB04:03
TheSheepdomenic: you must enable the universe repository04:03
domenicit is enabled i believe04:03
domenicubunutu 6.06 LTS (Binary)04:04
TheSheepah, is't not available for dapper04:04
TheSheepdomenic: well, use 'locate' from the terminal04:05
domenicW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages)04:05
xjkxxfce hasnt tabbed windows :<04:06
xjkx!tabbed windows04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tabbed windows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
xjkx!tabbed04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tabbed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
TheSheepxjkx: what?04:06
xjkxTheSheep: its a fluxbox thing that you integrate many windows in one04:06
TheSheepxjkx: no, xfce doesn't have it04:07
xjkx:< whats xfce window manager? metacity?04:07
TheSheepxjkx: single applications, like the terminal or web browser support tabs04:07
TheSheepxjkx: xfwm404:07
xjkxmeh, i think i will use xfce with fluxbox D:04:07
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Lord_Maynoth_42anyone know how to give cdrecord root privileges permanently?04:18
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TheSheepLord_Maynoth_42: chmod +s /usr/bin/cdrecord04:22
TheSheepLord_Maynoth_42: not recommended04:23
Lord_Maynoth_42k3b says it needs it04:23
TheSheepk3b lies04:23
Lord_Maynoth_42:D04:23
Lord_Maynoth_42thanks04:23
TheSheepbut sure, you can have a binary that will always run with root priviledges no matter who executes it04:24
Lord_Maynoth_42I have noticed something odd04:24
Lord_Maynoth_42on my system04:24
Lord_Maynoth_42sudo doesn't need passwords anymore04:24
TheSheepLord_Maynoth_42: it only needs it the first time you use it04:24
TheSheepLord_Maynoth_42: and then re-asks only if some time passed04:24
TheSheep(5 minutes, I think, but I might be wrong)04:25
Lord_Maynoth_42back04:29
Lord_Maynoth_42oh04:29
Lord_Maynoth_42well it didn't need it at all today04:29
Lord_Maynoth_42weird04:29
Lord_Maynoth_42:D04:29
Lord_Maynoth_42omg getdeb.net is awesome!04:29
viddyou disabled the need for a passwd for sudo???? are you NUTS????04:30
Lord_Maynoth_42I didn't disable it04:32
Lord_Maynoth_42*_*04:32
Lord_Maynoth_42i just never asked me for it04:32
Lord_Maynoth_42LOL04:32
Lord_Maynoth_42now my bug report tool crashes04:32
Lord_Maynoth_42lol04:33
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cellofellowHow do I access NFS shares? Graphically would be nice.05:24
Jester45like windows shares?05:26
TheSheepcellofellow: just mount them05:27
TheSheepcellofellow: you cannot browse them, as they are not advertised in the way the windows shares are05:27
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snook353new xubuntu is beautiful05:35
TheSheepshame jmak doesn't see this :)05:35
cellofellowTheSheep: Can I use a linneighborhood-style program to mount them? It doesn't need to browse, just have a list of saved shares and mounts.05:37
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TheSheepcellofellow: you can add them to your fstab and have them displayed as devices by thunar05:38
TheSheepcellofellow: if you add 'noauto' to the options, they won't be mounted at startup05:38
cellofellowok05:38
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AlexCi just installed xubuntu 6.10 and i'm not sure how to set up my dail-up internet connection05:39
cellofellowApplications -> System -> Network should get you started.05:39
AlexCi know05:39
AlexCbut i set it all up05:40
cellofellowthat's all I know too. :(05:40
AlexCand it's all corect05:40
cellofellowI have LAN and DSL.05:40
TheSheep!ppp05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:40
TheSheep:(05:41
cellofellow!dail-up05:41
AlexCi just ticked the connection because i don't know how else to activate it05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dail-up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
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cellofellow!dial-up05:41
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto05:41
AlexCty05:41
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WaxyFreshim useing fluxbox,and trying to get my sound card working i tryed this before and couldent find it anywhere on my system any help?05:47
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whamazoomhello05:48
cellofellow!ask05:48
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:48
cellofellowWaxyFresh: do you have XFCE too?05:49
WaxyFreshyup05:49
cellofellowsound works in there?05:49
whamazoomI have tried about 20 distros, ubuntu being my fav. since wifi works.. :D but im trying to install gnome2 on a fresh freebsd install....and I think I want to try xubuntu to play with? any thoughts?05:49
cellofellowwhat sound card is it? use lspci05:50
TheSheepwhamazoom: good idea, try it and see if you like it05:50
cellofellowwhamazoom: xubuntu is really fun to play with. Enough of a desktop to be fun in that regard, but sparce enough to be geeky.05:50
whamazoomWill any linux apps work with xfce?05:50
cellofellowFun for a geek who likes to get down and dirty.05:50
TheSheepwhamazoom: yes, as well as with gnome or kde05:51
cellofellowsometimes KDE apps look downright out of place05:51
whamazoomnice, cus I think I jumped in way over my head with freebsd05:51
cellofellowmaybe you should have tried PC-BSD.05:51
TheSheepwhamazoom: well, bsd is not linux05:52
whamazoomtried that too, didnt recognice my wifi05:52
TheSheepwhamazoom: xubuntu uses the same files as ubuntu under the hood, so it should work05:52
whamazoomhad to do some kldload if_ath0 and a bunch of other junk, still didnt work to great05:52
cellofellowyou probably have less drivers for BSD than Linux, especially on wireless. (Unless you can use Mac drivers. Can you?)05:52
whamazoommac drivers...im unsure05:53
cellofellowMac's under-the-hood system Darwin is FreeBSD/Mach (like GNU/Linux).05:53
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whamazoomahh, i dont use mac's05:54
cellofellowthat's ok. I was just thinking about drivers. Probably not seeing as it's different kernels.05:54
WaxyFreshcellofellow: lspci didint come up with it i think can i pm you the results?pastebin takes a while due to the slowness of my computer05:55
whamazoomits an atheros card, which is pretty much supported05:55
WaxyFreshor can i post 6-7 lines in here?05:55
cellofellowWaxyFresh: sure05:55
Jester45anyone know of a ssh connectable proxy05:55
WaxyFreshget it?05:56
Jester45nope05:56
AlexChow do i change the home folder of a user in the console?05:56
TheSheepWaxyFresh: on freenode you have to register your nick to be able to pm05:56
cellofellowWaxyFresh: yikes, it's like you don't have a sound card. maybe lspci -v or lsusb (it might be usb for all I know. or lspcmcia too.)05:56
WaxyFreshcellofellow: this extra one came up with sudo05:57
TheSheepAlexC: what do you mean?05:57
cellofellowAlexC: man adduser is as much as I know.05:57
WaxyFresh00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)05:57
cellofellowand AGP bridge is just part of the motherboard.05:57
WaxyFreshcellofellow: its on bored,would that mean it could still be a usb/pcmcia?05:57
TheSheepAlexC: you can edit /etc/passwd if that's what you mean05:58
AlexCthesheep, i changed  the home folder of one of the users and now it won't log in properly, how do i change the users home dir back?05:58
cellofellow00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-740C [DS-1L Audio Controller]  (rev 03)05:58
cellofellowWaxyFresh: it should show in lspci (which shows more than pci.)05:58
cellofellowup there is mine05:58
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Jester45!ssh06:03
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/06:03
Jester45oops06:03
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WaxyFreshcellofellow: i got disconected somehow,so does this mean its a hardware problem?06:04
WaxyFreshgrrr he left06:05
Jester45you didnt miss anything06:10
gobloxhow do I edit the xfce menu? other than modifying  /usr/share/application entries? someone explained it the other day...and I had it modified, but I can recall06:12
gobloxerr...can't recall that is06:12
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TheSheepgoblox: settings->mesnu editor06:15
TheSheepgoblox: you can copy the initial system one from ~/.cache/06:16
gobloxok06:16
gobloxI think06:18
BFTDmy sound stopped working06:19
BFTD:(06:19
gobloxahh...I think I got it06:20
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gobloxvery cool.....thanks Sheep......that worked out pretty well06:30
TheSheepgoblox: glad to hear06:32
TheSheepgoblox: but you are aware that you'll have to update the menu manually when you install or remove applications?06:32
gobloxright06:33
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gobloxthat's what hosed me up....I added some apps....and wanted to update my menu06:33
BFTDxfce-mce-* is currently using my sound card?06:34
gobloxhmm...06:38
xjkxwhat about taking screenshots?06:40
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TheSheepxjkx: you have a panel applet, option in gimp's menu and you can install an additional command-linep rogram like scrot and bind it to a key in keyboard settings06:44
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xjkxthanks07:04
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big_areaanyone familiar with libnotify or notification-daemon?  google has not been my friend tonight07:29
TheSheep!ask | big_area07:36
ubotubig_area: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:36
big_areahow can i test to see if it is running07:38
TheSheepbig_area: open a terminal and type "notify-send 'Hello world!'" into it07:40
TheSheep(without the ")07:41
big_areagracias07:41
TheSheepbig_area: it should pop up a notification07:42
big_areagot it07:42
big_areado you know where i can find docs for it, google jsut turn up a bunch of bug report07:43
big_areas07:43
TheSheepbig_area: hmm... freedesktop.org seems down at the moment -- but that is where I'd look07:45
big_areaok thanks sheep07:45
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kioskAnybody here?08:42
Myrttino08:43
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nessmukI want to know if you can upgrade Ubuntu Edgy to Xubuntu Feisty, or do you have to start fresh with Xubuntu?08:57
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kioskEdgy is later than fiesty isn't it?09:14
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mrynit2i have xubuntu 6.10 how can i upgrade to 7.04?09:15
kioskdoes install cd have an upgrade option?09:16
mrynit2dont think so09:16
mrynit2the software upgrate with it says i can upgrade to 7.04 but it erros when running it09:16
kioskotherwise maybe full upgrade in Synaptic09:16
kioskI'm guessing09:17
kioskThere is an upgrade in synaptic I think09:17
mrynit2well now its working09:17
mrynit2rebooting helps i guess09:18
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kioskAny one know how to get video workig in Xubuntu's Firefox?09:20
kioskTried installing adobe flash plugin but no luck09:20
kioskYoutube.com gives me a message about my Java not enabled or Flash not installed but as far as I know I have both now09:21
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t-rockcan someone help me?09:25
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predaeuskiosk, are you on a 64bit system?09:36
predaeusrunning the 64bit distri09:36
kioskno09:40
kioskdon't think anyway09:40
predaeuskiosk, hm then it should work09:42
predaeuskiosk, does    about:plugins    in your firefox address bar report the plugin?09:42
kioskUnder help?09:43
kioskI only have an about Firefox in thre09:43
kiosk*three09:43
kiosk*there09:43
predaeusno just enter    about:plugins   [enter]    into the address bar of firefox09:43
predaeusthis will list all plugins detected09:43
predaeusalso the ubuntu wiki says for flash you can install    flashplugin-nonfree09:44
kioskthere are two flash plugins in ther09:44
predaeuskiosk, is it the adobe or macromedia or whatever one?09:45
kioskthe first on is Macromedia09:45
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kioskShockwave is a trademark of Macromedia09:45
kioskFlash Movie player Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.009:46
kioskhas spl and swf09:46
kioskthe second one also has spl and swf09:46
kioskI went to adobe.com and installed shockwave09:47
kioskwhen I tryed to play a video it gave me a link to go there09:47
predaeuskiosk, I am not sure what is going on there, as far as I know flash is at version 9 already now.09:49
predaeustry removing the plugin or just install the repository version over it (maybe not a clean way of doing so).09:49
kioskhow do I uninstall a plugin?09:52
jgamiokiosk: you are  using 64 bit version09:52
kioskreally?09:52
kioskthats no good09:52
kioskThis is not a 64 bit machine09:53
kioskI installed alternative because it's <192 MB09:53
kioskdidn't know it was 64 bit09:53
jgamio jgamio:  ok not problem09:54
predaeuskiosk, I think you should be fine installing the repository version over it. (but mind that this is not very clean and could bring problems)    if you want to try this just "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"09:55
jgamiokiosk: flash doesnt work in 64 bits09:55
xjkxi installed php5 and i have  "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps" oh httpd.conf and when i try /index.php it asks me for open in a text editor ;o09:55
jgamiokiosk: you need install the firefox 32 bit in the 64 machine  then install flash09:55
kioskmaybe i should install 32 bit xubuntu first09:56
jgamio kiosk: do you use automatix ?09:56
kioskPerformance will be non optimal since my CPU is 366MHz09:56
Myrttirestrictedformats has some info09:56
Myrttiabout flash in _6409:56
Myrttibut yeah, get 32bit09:56
kioskhow do I know fore sure I have 64 bit?09:57
xjkx:o09:58
jgamiokiosk: do you have a lib64 chapter in the root09:59
predaeuskiosk, the 64bit ubuntu/xubuntu won't run on a 32bit system. so you don't have that installed if you have a 32bit system. but if you don't know what system you've got we need to check :-)10:00
predaeuskiosk, does "file /bin/ls"   say 64-bit or 32-bit?10:00
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kiosk32-bit10:02
kioskELF 32-bit10:02
kioskELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped10:02
kioskstripped?10:02
kiosktrying "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"10:04
BFTDyou need multiverse and universe enabled10:05
jgamio kiosk: you have 32 bits10:05
hyper__chhiho, has ubuntu actually a cron set for updatedb or does it need to be run manually (or manually make a cron)?10:06
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xjkxaw man i cant make php work :/10:12
xjkx!php10:12
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:12
hyper__chxjkx: sudo a2enmod php510:12
xjkx"This module is already enabled!"10:13
kiosk"sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"  Worked :)10:13
hyper__chxjkx: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:14
kioskYoutube video works now10:14
kioskThanks Predaeus10:14
xjkx * Forcing reload of web server (apache2)...                                                                                                                       [fail] 10:15
predaeuskiosk, you are welcome10:15
jgamioxjkx: check it out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Apache_HTTP_Server10:15
hyper__chxjkx: use highlighting... makes it easier10:15
mrynitim upgrading xubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 and have incountered a problem. i am running two comps w/ a kvm stwich. I was on my other computer letting xubuntu do its thing. i switched over to it to see this wierdness http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/mrynit/S5000358.jpg i was locked out. cnat do anyting to change the screen. i could not use my kvm hot keys to switch back to my other computer. i had to manualy connect my mouse and keyboard to 10:16
mrynitcomputer. WTF IS GOING ON??10:16
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predaeusmrynit, please watch your language to keep this channel family friendly10:16
xjkxjgamio: no more php4 available10:17
xjkx~test~10:17
hyper__chxjkx:   http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704_p610:17
predaeusmrynit, this looks like a screensaver. probably with lock function where you will have to enter password to be able to act again10:18
mrynitit would not respond to anyting or change10:18
mrynitit seems to be frozen solid10:18
hyper__chmrynit: got openssh server isntalled?10:19
BFTDmrynit ctrl+alt+F410:19
BFTDit appears that your screensaver came on10:19
mrynitso plug in and do a thre finger key action10:20
BFTD??10:21
mrynitit didnt work10:22
jgamio xjkx: change 4 for 5 have the same name10:23
mrynitid hate to have to turn it off and reinstall every thing.10:23
predaeusmrynit, did it finish upgrading? is there disk or network activity?10:27
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kioskGotta get to bed all.  Thanks again for help predaeus10:33
mryniti rebooted fine into gnome. restarting the update. i turned screen savers off so it should not freese. it was doing randome 3D screensavers every 10min10:34
mryniti think that kinda killed it considering tis a p3 667mhz 8mb apg 2x10:35
mrynit256mb pc133 ram10:35
BFTDmrynit use aptitude10:35
mrynitim using the system update. im guessing it does the same basic thing10:36
BFTDno, it doesn't10:36
mrynito'rly?10:36
BFTDsudo aptitude dist-upgrade && dist-upgrade10:36
hyper_chBFTD: do you know where you can turn off the "sudo required" for executing a program?10:37
mrynitaptitiude is terminal synaptic is gui, correct?10:37
BFTDMyrtti correct10:37
mrynityatta10:37
BFTDctrl+alt+f1, and use that terminal10:37
BFTDGUI is ctrl+alt+F710:37
Myrttiwhatrm.10:37
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BFTDhyper_ch nope, and I don't recommend it10:38
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mrynitMyrtti who are you?!?!10:38
hyper_chBFTD: someone in the german channel asked for the gui on pureftp... that one's sudo protected10:38
Myrttime myself and I10:38
hyper_chyou are three then :)10:38
mrynitk, just you kinda look like me10:38
BFTDhaha10:39
BFTDmultiple personalities10:39
BFTDhyper_ch tell him "Alt+F2" type in "sudo pureftp"10:39
hyper_chBFTD: but he'll still be asked10:40
BFTDoh10:40
BFTDwhy not type in the pass?10:40
Gerrohmm that task list for the xfce panel is there a way to add a kill option to the right click of windows?10:42
Myrttimrynit: been around IRC since 199610:42
GerroMyrtti: wow your old grandpa10:42
Myrttima10:43
MyrttiI don't throw my gender to people's faces unless they misthink me for a male ;-)10:43
Myrttinow I scared you off :-(10:45
Gerrowho?10:45
Gerrohmm don't see a /etc/inittab file.. someone told me to edit that10:49
Gerroperhaps wrong distro they were speaking of10:49
hyper_chirc since '96... same here :)10:52
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Gerroif by '96 meaning capable of reading irc, yeah same here!10:53
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mryniti didnt know what irc was untill 2yrs ago] 10:54
Gerrowell I'm officially bored...10:57
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hyper_chmrynit: irc is one of the oldest internet protocolls...11:03
mrynitcompile a kernel11:03
mrynitshows how old i am11:03
mryniti didnt get internet acces until i was 1311:03
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hyper_chI got in contact with mrynit because of command and conquer :) hang around the westwood studios chat :)11:03
mrynitback in 199811:03
hyper_chI didn't get internet until I was 18 back in '9611:03
mrynitwhat11:03
mrynithyper_ch what are you talking about C&C?11:04
Gerrohyper_ch: command and conquer is awesome11:04
hyper_chmrynit: Westwood Studios did have an IRC Chat to find people for multiplayer :)11:04
mrynithyper_chI got in contact with mrynit because of command and conquer11:05
hyper_chThe Brotherhood of Nod rules of course :)11:05
mryniti was never on online with that game11:05
hyper_chups... I meant to say I got in contact with irc :)11:05
mrynitok11:05
Gerroyeah but raw stats are in favor of gdi if you can manage troops well11:05
Gerro(and map hack, damn them invisible bases!)11:06
Gerroah whatever I'm going to bed, bye everyone11:07
hyper_chHand of Nod was my fav. building :)11:07
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ghata1how do i burn cd's in xubuntu11:09
gobloxxfburn11:10
hyper_chxfburn or some other burning program :)11:10
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gobloxbut I prefer k3b11:10
gobloxso I installed that11:10
ghata1has it got gui ? i hate cmd11:10
XZCHi11:10
hyper_chcmd is great11:10
gobloxxfburn is gui11:10
ghata1kewl thanks11:11
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XZCWhen I try install or do ANYTHING with my install CD I get an error: HDC 0x70... On 2 computers anyone know why?!? plz.. :(11:11
gobloxmaybe a bad cd?11:12
mrynitXZC os install or other software?11:12
XZCOS install i think, I can install XP (sometimes, other timesBlue screen)11:13
XZCI'wetested with an Ubuntu and 1 Xubuntu CD11:13
XZCSame errors, on both computers11:13
mrynitwell if you cant install XP then its either your haddrive or cd rom11:14
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mrynitrive11:14
mrynitcd rom drive11:14
XZCBut, I can install it... SOmetimes :P11:14
Gerrorun the CD self test11:14
mrynitand get a snack11:14
XZCDetect CD from blbla?11:14
Gerroor do a checksum and compare it to the one on the site11:15
XZCIf I run detect CD i get same strange error11:15
mryniti would say bad cd then11:15
Gerroyeah most likely11:15
gobloxprolly11:15
XZCBut 2 bad CD's11:15
Gerrowhat did you use to burn it?11:15
mrynithow did you burn the cd? OS drive speed cd company11:16
gobloxbad burner maybe11:16
aboyousifGerro, have you checked the iso file ?11:16
mrynitfor windows i use deep burnner11:16
gobloxwhat speed?11:16
XZCI use Nero Burning ROM11:16
Gerroaboyousif: which?11:16
XZC16x speed11:16
XZC(DVD burner)11:16
mrynitis that your max speed?11:16
XZCYes11:16
GerroXZC: nero sucks use a different one, isorecorder works for me11:16
aboyousifGerro, sorry i thought it is you who face bad cd :)11:16
XZCGerro no other CD havebeen corrupt11:17
XZCI just did open the iso file with nero andburned :P11:17
aboyousifXZC, you should check the iso file before burning it ..11:17
GerroXZC: nero has hit and miss cd corruption when burning iso files. think its mainly older versions11:17
mrynithttp://www.deepburner.com/ this is free and is what i used to burn linux iso11:17
XZCOk11:17
aboyousifXZC, deepburner is the one ..11:17
mryniti never burn at max speed11:17
Gerroyeah I think I tried that deepburner before... couldn't figure it out11:17
XZCI do, but 16 is slow11:18
mrynitfor dvd?11:18
GerroI usually do 1211:18
XZCmax with my DVD burner, max onDVD burnign is 8x11:18
aboyousifXZC, slow ? you don't burn 15 cd / day11:18
mryniti burn at 40x when max is 48x11:18
XZCaboyousif ofc not but11:18
Gerrooverclocking your nero burning app, ah fun stuff :)11:19
XZClol11:19
aboyousifXZC, the 16x will only take 15~20 min11:19
mryniti thought you said 16x for dvd11:19
XZCIt took 5 min to burn Ubuntu11:19
mrynit600 mb @ 16x in 5 min?11:20
aboyousifXZC, i have 52X writer and i usually burn on 1611:20
XZCmrynit yeah11:20
Gerrooh speaking of burning, xfburn hasn't been working on my dv9000t laptop11:20
XZCmrynit or something, not that long11:20
aboyousifGerro, use Brasero11:21
Gerrook thx will try that11:21
Gerroanyone here use uvcvideo driver for a webcam?11:21
Gerroread this guide said something about needing special software to interface with it11:22
XZCWhat DeepBurner version shall Idownload?11:22
mrynitfree11:22
aboyousifXZC, the latest maybe11:22
GerroXZC: all them man know you want to, freakin power user11:22
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mrynitlol11:22
mrynitXZC: the free verison either portable or install. they are about the same11:23
aboyousifwhere i can get the xubuntu logo svg or png but with high resolution ?11:23
mrynitsvg is any rez right?11:23
XZCI meant Pro or Free :r11:23
aboyousifmrynit, the only i found is too small11:23
mrynitfree is what i use np11:23
mrynitScalable Vector Graphic ?11:24
aboyousifmrynit, yes ..11:24
Gerroaboyousif: I got a copy if you want11:24
mrynitshouldnt it scale to any size tho11:24
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aboyousifGerro, plz ..11:24
mrynitgood bye11:25
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Gerroaboyousif: http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Gerro15A/soloo4.gif11:27
aboyousifGerro, bad boy :P11:27
Gerrogit r dun little mousy11:27
GerroxD11:27
aboyousifGerro, can't understand what you want to say11:29
Gerroaboyousif, just idle hand spams on the keyboard ;P11:30
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GerroZambezi: hey where did you go, we were just talking about ya11:33
aboyousifGerro, you use esmtp ?11:34
Gerroaboyousif: umm I've used smtp before don't seem to recall a esmtp11:34
aboyousifGerro,  i mean esmtp.sf.net11:35
Gerrono is that an irc server?11:35
aboyousifGerro, no11:36
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ZambeziGerro, You mean me?11:41
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Gerroyeah sup zambezi12:06
Gerroaboyousif: what about esmtp?12:07
aboyousifGerro, it not encrypt the password string so any one can see it if he has access12:07
Gerroaboyousif: probably missing a perl plugin to handle that feature, usually a problem with mail transfer things12:08
aboyousifGerro, or it supposed to work like that ..12:08
Gerromost likely not12:09
Gerrothis similar program i was using to check my email wouldn't do **** for password unless I had the specific perl module12:09
Gerroyou actually ever go to CPAN and update that stuff?12:10
Gerrolot of kool programming goodies12:10
aboyousifGerro, i don't do perl .. and i don't understand how this relates to perl12:10
Gerroaboyousif: C++ and perl make up almost everything in linux12:10
Gerroso probably just a missing dependency12:11
aboyousifGerro, nvm i will not use it anymore12:11
Gerrounlike C++, perl is usually not compiled12:11
Gerroaboyousif: sorry if I'm not of much help :( I'll see if I can check that program out later okay12:12
aboyousifGerro, no problem .. thanks alot12:12
Gerrookies bye12:13
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XZCHi, again.. Same problemwith the new CD burner program... What to do now?04:04
XZCError: Buffer I/O error on device HDC04:04
XZCSeriosly, I didnt know that Linux was that hardto install :P04:05
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grazieXZC: What are you trying to burn and with what application?04:08
XZCTeh ubuntu/Xubuntu .isop file04:09
XZCTrying https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/345104:09
XZCSee ig that helps04:09
grazieXZC: have you done an md5sum check on the iso?04:10
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grazieXZC: have you run check cd from the boot menu?04:10
XZCSeem that the link to the help I sented to my self WORKED! XD04:14
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XZCgrazie I ran the CD check before I found the help link, and Icrashed. Now I think it willwork. But thanks anyway...04:16
grazieXZC: glad you found a solution04:17
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WhamazoomWould you all reccommend Xubuntu Vs. FreeBSD + xfce?05:11
Whamazoomfor a beginner!05:11
Howdy125Xubuntu05:12
Whamazoomgood, beacuse I have been porting Gnome2 onto a freebsd install for over 12 hours now....im getting tired of this BSD lol :D05:13
Howdy125I'm using Xubuntu and I love it ..05:14
Whamazoombut would you say I would gain no advantages to installing a minimal debian, and apt-get installing xfce Vs. just popping in Xubuntu?05:14
Howdy125All of the buntu's have more up to date packages than debian05:15
Whamazoomoh?!05:16
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PumpernickelNot really.  Debian releases are behind Ubuntu releases for package versions, but they'll have newer stuff in testing.05:17
PumpernickelAlso, doesn't Freebsd have Gnome in packages?05:18
Whamazoomyes I was told after i did the "port" to have done a pkg_add -r gnome205:18
WhamazoomI started the port yesterday at 3pm....still Downloading stuff05:19
Howdy125Well if you want gnome then you don't want Xubuntu ;)05:22
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Whamazoomwell I like gnome apps, but I want xfce to be my window manager05:25
Whamazoomand I heard that xfce can use gnome apps05:25
Howdy125Yep it does.05:25
Howdy125and kde apps05:25
Whamazoomso could I just get debian, then install xfce, and start adding gnome programs? theoretically05:25
WhamazoomMaybe I should start with what im doing with this computer...05:26
Howdy125Well you could .. your life would be a lot easier if you use xubuntu though.05:26
WhamazoomI look at email,webpages,listen to music, movies, IRC, torrent, ftp server, remote desktop(windows),ssh login, and I wouldnt mind playing with apache, I also need wifi support with VPN connections05:27
Whamazoomand thats pretty much what i would use linux for....games stay with me on XP :D05:27
WhamazoomI just need a stable laptop to take to campus with me from time to time05:28
Howdy125You can do all of that with any distro .. just some are harder to set up than others.05:28
Whamazoomand to run an ftp sever once and a while05:28
Whamazoomso Xubuntu will suit my needs fine?05:29
Howdy125Should .. long as you take the time to learn a few things along the way.05:30
Whamazoomfor instance?05:30
PumpernickelChecking if a package exists before compiling your own. ^_^05:31
Howdy125How do set up an ftp server is one.05:31
Whamazoomwell i really dont know much about the compiling / package thing05:31
Howdy125If you install Automatix2 you can get all the media stuff easy.05:31
WhamazoomI know what compiling is....I had a few programming courses05:31
WhamazoomAutomatix2....is that like easyubuntu? for xubuntu?05:32
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Howdy125It's a program that lets you select programs that aren't normally available through synaptic05:33
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Howdy125grazie, Worked great for me .. :)05:33
WhamazoomIt just installs like .mp3 support, and flash java quicktime and rreal right?05:33
Pumpernickel!automatix05:33
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:33
PumpernickelIt's better to use the regular Ubuntu installation tools.05:34
grazie!WorksForMe05:34
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:34
Pumpernickele.g, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, or adept (if you're on Kubuntu)05:34
Howdy125Don't be a nerd grazie :-/05:34
Whamazoomdoes Xubuntu get updates like ubuntu does?05:35
Howdy125Bottom line is you can add repos to get what you want .. use automatx .. or compile what you need ...05:36
Whamazoomthe whole ./configure, make, make install thing?05:36
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Howdy125Whamazoom, yes you can update with synaptic or the update manager.05:36
grazieHowdy125: not being a nerd at all. If you like it that's fine. If you recommend it someone else on the channel I will voice my opinion. No offense was meant.05:37
Howdy125grazie,  .. he asked .. I gave my opinion !05:37
Whamazoomdoes Mplayer play Divx/Xvid, or will I need to get divx4linux05:38
Howdy125Whamazoom, in pclos :)05:39
PumpernickelMost media players can, although the ones that come preinstalled won't until you install the right codecs.  (Which, incidentally, are available from the repository.)05:39
WhamazoomHow will I find each respective codec/plugin, search the packages.debian.org for "codec" or "plugin" ?05:42
Whamazoomb/c I know I will need .aac, .mp3, .avi, divx,flash,java,quicktime,realplayer, and me thinks thats abouts its05:43
Howdy125lol .. this isn't funny .. all this time I thought I was in another channel .. hehe .. so sorry if I sounded offensive grazie ..05:44
hyper_ch!restricted | Whamazoom05:45
hyper_ch!codecs05:45
ubotuWhamazoom: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:45
Whamazoomcool, thankyou05:45
hyper_chWhamazoom: you're welcome05:45
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Howdy125I thought I was in another channel recommending xubuntu to someone .. least I was recomending the right distro .. :)05:46
hyper_chI would not touch Automatix either05:47
slow-motionhallo05:48
hyper_chhiho slow-motion05:48
Howdy125Sounds like Automatix has caused some problems.05:49
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slow-motionhi hyper_ch05:49
Whamazoomwhat about Mediabuntu?05:49
hyper_chHowdy125: well, Automatix could break the whole system... in the past it has done quite often... meanwhile it's not that bad anymore... however everything automatix does you can do on your own...05:49
hyper_chHowdy125: and you'll even learn about the workings by doing things manually05:50
hyper_chWhamazoom: You mean the medibuntu Repository?05:50
eljefe_good day!  can anyone tell me the functional difference between Xubuntu 7.04 and Xubuntu 7.04 Alternate CD?  I have a P3 500MHz laptop with 192MB of RAM and I'd like one of the two installed; I am afraid to do the regular CD since I'll kinda be on the edge of minimum RAM.  Will the Alternate suffice?05:50
Whamazoomyes, i believe it is a repository05:50
eljefe_!mediabunu05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabunu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
eljefe_!mediabuntu05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
Howdy125hyper_ch, ok .. I used to do it all manually .. took a shortcut this time around with automatix05:51
eljefe_baa05:51
eljefe_!medibuntu05:51
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/05:51
hyper_cheljefe_:  in the end both are the same... the 704 comes with everything precompiled and 7.04 alternate does not... 7.04 desktop is also a live cd - which doesn't run everywhere and 7.04 alternate should be able to run everywhere05:51
hyper_ch!medibuntu05:51
eljefe_hyper_ch: 'precompiled' vs. what, source packages?05:51
hyper_chWhamazoom: if it's a repository it's normally alright.... automatix does more than just fetch files from a repository and add it to the system05:52
hyper_cheljefe_: not really... I don't really know the exact difference but there is one since the alternate iso is bigger than the desktop one05:52
eljefe_hyper_ch: would i be better off with one or the other?05:52
hyper_cheljefe_: but after install both are the same05:53
hyper_cheljefe_: with 192 ram you can run the desktop I think but I prefer installing from the alternate05:53
eljefe_hyper_ch: maybe its just the install using X vs not, then?05:53
eljefe_hmm05:53
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hyper_cheljefe_: well, the desktop, with running the live cd should use more space and not less I tend to think :)05:53
eljefe_i would think so also...05:54
hyper_cheljefe_: hence my assumption that there are probably difference in the packaging05:54
eljefe_yeah... any idea where to dig for more info?05:55
hyper_ch#ubuntu-devel05:55
hyper_ch#kubuntu-devel05:55
hyper_ch#xubuntu-devel05:55
eljefe_ooh thanks!05:55
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Howdy125I'd like to see a package that installs all of the -dev packages.06:00
hyper_chHowdy125: ???06:03
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Howdy125hyper_ch, all the development libs and such ..06:09
hyper_chwhy?06:09
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Howdy125Well like the other day I went to compile Pidgin .. and I had to keep looking for missing libs :-/06:11
TheSheepHowdy125: that would install practically every package from the repo, since foo-dev depends on foo06:12
Howdy125Hmmmm06:12
Howdy125The heard part for me is when the compiler reports something is missing the name they give doesn't match too well with whats listed in apt.06:15
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Howdy125Anyway .. I figure it out eventually.06:17
PumpernickelThis is what apt-get's 'build-dep' option is for.06:18
TheSheepsearching in synaptic usually helps06:18
Pumpernickel`sudo apt-get build-dep gaim` and you have all the development files required to build pidgin.06:18
TheSheepPumpernickel: but don't you need source deb for that?06:18
PumpernickelTrue.06:18
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PumpernickelIf you're building something that's not in the repository in some form, that won't work out so well.06:19
PumpernickelHowever, if it's not been built for Ubuntu, there's no way to guarantee it's supported anyway.06:19
TheSheepPumpernickel: why would you build something that *is* in the repository? :)06:20
PumpernickelVersioning, apparently.06:20
TheSheepexactly06:20
TheSheepah06:20
TheSheepcompulsive upgraders :D06:20
PumpernickelYup. :)06:20
Howdy125hehe06:20
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TheSheepoooh, engraving support and busket fill in Inkscape! yum!06:21
TheSheepbucket even06:21
Howdy125New Pidgin you mean TheSheep06:21
TheSheepHowdy125: actually Imeant GIMP, only your suggestion made me mistype06:21
Howdy125ok06:22
TheSheepHowdy125: I don't use gaim anyways, it depends on gconf06:22
Howdy125gconf must be bad.06:24
TheSheepHowdy125: it's basically like windows'registers, only in XML06:25
hyper_chHowdy125: install apt-file --> with that tool you can search for a file to what library it belongs to06:28
Howdy125Thanks hyper_ch06:29
hyper_chafter installing it you first have to to apt-file update   :)06:30
Howdy125I'm glad you told me that .. :)06:31
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hyper_chwell, acutally sudo apt-file update :)06:32
Howdy125Should it be listing anything as it's updating hyper_ch ?06:34
hyper_chno06:34
Howdy125ok ty06:35
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Carsten[GER1moin07:13
TheSheephi Carsten[GER107:13
makkicd rom not work and hanging the system in xubuntu07:14
TheSheepmakki: check dmesg07:14
Carsten[GER1^^ pigdin working07:14
Carsten[GER1but must be online with some other computer right now ^07:14
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makkiin terminal?07:15
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makkivery long result with dmesg07:16
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TheSheepmakki: look at the last couple of lines and see if there is anything relevant to the cdrom07:17
makkiok07:17
rudefyetxfce roxors my boxors!07:19
makkilook http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19484/07:19
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TheSheepmakki: so you have two cdroms...07:22
makkiyes07:23
TheSheepmakki: so what do you exactly do and what happens?07:24
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makkiwhen i insert the cd in drive the system hang and stop responding07:26
TheSheepmakki: any cd?07:27
makkiso i switch off the system by unplugign07:27
makkiif blank cd  it not hang07:27
TheSheepok, does it happen with both drives, or only one of them?07:28
makkiwith both drives07:28
TheSheepmakki: there should be a log console on one of the virstual screens -- look for it with alt+ctrl+f8, f9, f1007:31
TheSheep(press alt+ctrl+f7 to return)_07:31
makkiok i try07:31
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makkiok done07:34
TheSheepfound it?07:34
Jester45!AIGLRX07:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aiglrx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:34
makkibut no anything about cdrom07:34
TheSheepthen try switching to it and inserting the cdrom, to see if you get any interesting messages07:34
makkiok07:35
Jester45aynone here know how to get aiglrx working with beryl. i cant find any guide at all07:35
TheSheep!beryl | Jester4507:35
ubotuJester45: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:35
Jester45i like the folks in here better, but i guess i will try there07:36
makkiit say: revalidation faild (errorno=5)07:37
TheSheep:\07:38
makki!!07:39
TheSheep[83.752693]  ata2.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)07:41
TheSheep[118.720776]  ata2.00: port failed to respond (30 seconds, Status 0xd0)07:41
TheSheeplike this?07:41
makkiyes07:41
makkiexactly07:41
TheSheepBug #10686407:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10686407:41
TheSheepmakki: I guess they are working on it :(07:41
makkibut y system hang?07:42
TheSheepor it may be this: Bug #10970607:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 109706 in linux-source-2.6.20 "IDE cdrom not recognized after upgrade from Ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10970607:43
makkiso what can i do to resolve this problem?07:44
TheSheepmakki: I guess it's a problem with bad support for your hardware in feisty07:45
TheSheepmakki: it also *may* be some problem with the hardware itself or some bios settings07:45
TheSheepmakki: you can try and play with that, but I can't think of any specific advice :(07:46
makkihmm07:46
makkiok thanks for trying to help me07:47
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hyper_ch!restricted08:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:01
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WaxyFreshi have foxy proxy tor and tor button installed on firefox but my ip still shows up any help?08:09
WaxyFreshwhen apt-get upgrade says it needs to fetch 0kb/30mb whats each side of the  / mean?08:11
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makkihow can i activate "root" accounte?08:16
WaxyFreshsudo before your comand08:16
WaxyFreshin a terminal?08:16
TheSheep!sudo08:17
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:17
makkii mean log in as root08:17
WaxyFreshthats a security risk and is therefor disabled by default in ubuntu08:18
WaxyFreshim not sure how youd do it08:18
WaxyFreshyou can use sudo -su to run everythign in a command line as root08:18
makkii know but i want open root accounte08:19
TheSheepmakki: sudo passwd and enter the password you want for root08:19
makkii done this but root not display in user list to log in08:20
TheSheepmakki: you can't log in graphically as root anyways08:21
TheSheepmakki: why do you need it?08:21
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makkii done this in kubuntu but i dont know how in xubuntu08:22
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TheSheepmakki: but why?08:22
makkisome time its usefull to do sumthing08:23
WaxyFreshmore dangourus then usefull08:23
TheSheepmakki: you can do 'gksu Thunar' if you want to manipulate files graphically08:24
WaxyFreshlinux is more secrue then windows because people dont run as root all the time08:24
WaxyFreshrunning as root opens your computer up stuff worse then herpes08:24
TheSheepWaxyFresh: actually you exaggerate a little :)08:25
makkianway.. any converter to covert risterected formates to free formates?08:25
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TheSheep!soundconverter08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundconverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
TheSheep!info soundconverter | makki08:26
ubotumakki: soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 67 kB, installed size 360 kB08:26
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makkigood and great08:27
WaxyFreshTheSheep: does apt-get install all recomended packages on it own or is there a comand?08:28
makkiwhat about video formates?08:29
TheSheepWaxyFresh: no idea08:29
TheSheepmakki: well, you can use mencoder... I'm sure there are some gui programs for it too08:30
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WaxyFreshnice name lysergide08:33
lysergidey is cool08:34
WaxyFreshisnt it a refrence to a triptamine alkaloid?08:37
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WaxyFresh!offtopic | waxyfresh08:38
ecmicro_udderboxok, here's a little free information...08:39
ecmicro_udderboxI'm currently trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.0408:40
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ecmicro_udderboxand I wanted to reinstall from scratch to see how 7.04 worked.08:40
ecmicro_udderboxwell, while I was attempting to repartition the HD08:40
ecmicro_udderboxI would get an error message that hda couldn't be written to08:41
ecmicro_udderboxor something like that.08:41
TheSheep!bugs | ecmicro_udderbox08:42
ubotuecmicro_udderbox: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:42
ecmicro_udderboxWell i dropped into the shell and ran cfdisk, deleted all of the partitions and wrote the changes.  It seems to have fixed it.  I know it seems simple but a noob wouldn't know how to do that08:42
ecmicro_udderboxoh and the start menu in live cd doesn't have the applications available by default you need to add them in the properties08:43
ecmicro_udderboxwhen you right click I mean08:43
TheSheepecmicro_udderbox: well, this is the support channel, there are no devs here (usually), if you want to make a suggestion or report a bug, either use the bugtracker or the mailing list08:43
ecmicro_udderboxoh I know that.  I just wanted to pass this info along in here because it /is/ the support channel08:44
ecmicro_udderboxI've already reported this08:45
TheSheepecmicro_udderbox: ah, ok, thank you08:45
rudefyetmmm http://files.vortec6.com/xfce-beryl.jpg08:46
TheSheeprudefyet: you don;t need beryl for that in xfce08:46
rudefyeti know08:46
rudefyetbut i like animations too08:46
TheSheep:)08:46
TheSheepthey slow me down08:47
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rudefyetthey are a bit slow in ubuntu vs other distros i've used08:48
mcscrufflo all08:49
TheSheephi mcscruff08:49
TheSheeprudefyet: maybe you need hardware acceleration enabled?08:49
rudefyetoh i got everything set up right08:50
rudefyetprobably just since I've only used beryl on Arch and Gentoo08:50
rudefyetthey're a bit more optimized08:50
TheSheepah, indeed08:50
mcscruffCould not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated <<qemu running sooooo slow08:51
rudefyetand my GeForce 4 is getting old too08:51
ecmicro_udderboxok is there a way to install in textmode with the desktop version or do I need to download the alternate?08:51
TheSheepmcscruff: you need to compile the kernel modules for kqemu08:51
TheSheepmcscruff: the licence forbids distributign them compiled08:52
TheSheepmcscruff: there is a howto on the forums08:52
TheSheep!kqemu08:52
ubotukqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm8608:52
mcscruffTheSheep, i have :P08:53
mcscruffkvm wont work on my lappy tho08:53
TheSheepmcscruff: see the "Configure udev to create the /dev/kqemu device node upon loading the kqemu module:" part08:55
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TheSheepecmicro_udderbox: you need the alternate08:55
WaxyFreshanyone ever used tor/privoxy/foxyproxy?08:56
schlumpf-hi how can i find out what resolution i have set?08:56
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WaxyFreshand have some time to help me configure it?08:56
ecmicro_udderboxcrap, that's what i figured08:56
mcscruffalso in xfce is there a setting somewhere to configure the laptop settings eg, poweroff if on battery09:03
mcscruff*power management09:03
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TheSheepmcscruff: settings->settings manager->screensaver09:07
Jester45ok i got ti all working09:12
Jester45and its nice09:12
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rudefyethmm...whenever I try to play a file rhythmbox seg faults09:34
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ochosihi, how can i add a session manually in xubuntu?10:18
ochosiin gnome it seems to be something like SYSTEM > PREFERENCES > SESSION10:19
slow-motionn810:27
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kebin feisty, what is the device name for an ide cdrw10:32
kebgrip can't seem to find it anymore10:32
Pumpernickel/dev/cdrw10:33
mcscruff/dev/cdrom ?10:34
kebneither one works10:34
mcscruffdvd ?10:34
kebnot it is a plextor cdrw that worked in 6.1010:34
keb*no, it10:35
PumpernickelCheck that /dev/cdrw points to the correct dev entry, then.10:35
Pumpernickele.g; /dev/scd010:35
kebit points to /dev/hdd10:36
PumpernickelThat's unusual.  It should be /dev/s* in Feisty.10:37
kebmaybe it never changed that in the upgrade10:37
kebis there a way to have all the devices re-initialized10:37
kebi have no scd* at all10:38
kebcd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV -n update     doesnt list /dev/scd0 as one of the devices to be made either10:42
PumpernickelIt could be related to bug 85578, although it's hard to tell.10:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 85578 in linux-source-2.6.17 "ide secondary drives not recognized" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8557810:47
kebfixed it for now.  my /dev/cdrom was linked from /dev/hdd but the cdrw is on /dev/hdc and the dvdrw is on /dev/hdd11:00
kebwould be nice to get the scd* upgrade though11:00
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kebmy kernel is 2.6.20-15-38611:02
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odathi everone11:17
odathas anyone been able to solve nvidia's api mismatch problem11:18
odat?11:18
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ecmicroI'm having some issues getting LanNeighborhood to run, anyone connecting to SMB shares?  if so, what are you using?11:43
TheSheep!fusesmb | ecmicro11:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fusesmb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:46
TheSheep!info fusesmb | ecmicro11:46
kalikianaecmicro, pyNeighborhood or fusesmb.11:46
ubotuecmicro: fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB11:46
kalikianahi TheSheep :)11:46
kalikiana!info pyNeighborhood11:47
ubotupyneighborhood: An SMB network browser for Linux and X11 written in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 79 kB, installed size 392 kB11:47
Howdy125ecmicro, I found this today but haven't tried it .. it may help .. gl .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu11:48
kalikianaHowdy125, That is fusesmb. ;)11:49
Howdy125Oh well .. ;)11:51
Howdy125Sooner or later I'll help someone .. :)11:52
kalikianaHey, that tutorial is not at all bad. :)11:52
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illu45!compiz12:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:11
NallemanHi, right now im installing xubuntu 7.04 on a small laptop with 128 mb ram, how long should i expect it to take?12:11
illu45oops, that shoul've been a PM12:11
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odathi everyone12:11
illu45Nalleman, hm... Not sure, does the installer not give a time estimate?12:11
odati'm still struggling with the nvidia api mismatch problem12:11
Nallemanillu45, nope12:12
illu45Nalleman, hm... how fast is the laptop's HDD, do you know?12:12
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Nallemannot fast...12:12
Howdy125Nalleman, took mine about 45 min if I recall12:12
Nalleman:)12:12
NallemanHowdy125, ok, thanx12:13
Howdy125yw12:13
illu45Nalleman, I'd expect it would take about an hour, yes12:13
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Nallemani thought it would be like 20 mins but it been working for quite a while now.12:14
Nallemanwell.. i got the whole night... :)12:15
Howdy125It's quite useable on my laptop with 128 megs and 800 mhz. synaptic is a bit slow at times though.12:17
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aboyousifi think xmms menu and audacity interface don't look nice at all12:22
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aboyousifthey seems here as the old bad windows with very bad font12:22
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