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bonbonthejonPollywog: its a finished basement12:14
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Pollywogyes but still, it can seep in12:14
Pollywogif it is in the soil where you live12:14
FroggyTheGreatIf I get the error message from "Make" - make: *** No rule to make target `Kicker', needed by `index.cache.bz2'.  Stop." what does that signify?12:14
bonbonthejonSubOne: in linux host should do it12:14
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LattyAnyone have any experience getting all of the hotkeys and stuff working with the Cherry CyMaster Linux keyboard? - The debian packages on disk don't install right, and all compiles fail for me.12:15
PollywogFroggy: is there a configure script in the directory?12:15
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FroggyTheGreatI was able to run ./ configure yeah.12:15
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leiarthanks..about flashplugin .. what about java?12:15
bonbonthejon!java | leiar12:15
leiarwhere do we find java?12:15
ubotuleiar: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.12:16
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DhraakellianFroggyTheGreat: now how about make?12:16
PollywogI usually use java-package to install Java but only because I use that method in Debian12:16
Dhraakellianand sudo make install?12:16
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OptimusRexcould you give me the full command line?12:16
OptimusRexfrom sudo fdisk to the deletion line12:17
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bonbonthejonOptimusRex: get in fdisk with "sudo fdisk", then do "d" to delete, it should as for the partition, then "q" to quit12:17
SubOnebonbonthejon: as in `host` as a command or as a file?12:17
bonbonthejonSubOne: hostname, sorry12:18
bonbonthejonSubOne: command12:18
bonbonthejonSubOne: do both ssystems have an ip address and function?12:18
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leiarI've enabled backport multiverse, but am not able to install sun-java5-jre12:18
FroggyTheGreatDhraakellian - make gives me an error.12:19
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Dhraakellianwhat error?12:19
bonbonthejonleiar: what does it say12:19
SubOnebonbonthejon: the desktop has the right hostname when i type `hostname`12:19
leiarbonbonthejon: ouldn't find the pakage.12:19
bonbonthejonleiar: use adept to search for the package12:19
FroggyTheGreatDhraakellian - make: *** No rule to make target `Kicker', needed by `index.cache.bz2'.  Stop.12:19
leiarbonbonthejon: ok12:19
bonbonthejonSubOne: do the systems have ip addresses?12:19
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Dhraakelliananyone got an answer for that?12:20
SubOnebonbonthejon: yes they are boht on the network12:20
bonbonthejonSubOne: then why do you need the hostnames if they work fine12:20
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SubOnebonbonthejon: the router is not getting the hostname of the desktop but it does see the hostname of the laptop12:21
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bonbonthejonSubOne: it might be missing, but why do you need it, doesn't everything work?12:21
FroggyTheGreatAnyone with ideas on why I get Make errors with Kirocker?12:22
leiarIs this the multiverse rep.? : deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:22
bonbonthejonFroggyTheGreat: there are superkaraba widgets that could do the same thing that would be easier to install12:22
SubOnebonbonthejon: i want to be able to get to the desktop from my laptop using the hostname rather than needing the IP which is dynamic12:22
hakaisouQuestion.  How do I install additional language packs?12:22
Pollywogokay why is there nvidia driver for the -386 kernel but not for -generic in Feisty?12:23
claydohleiar: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse12:23
bonbonthejonSubOne: ahh, dd-wrt could give a constant ip through dhcp, just an idea12:23
Pollywogmaybe I should ask in #ubuntu-effects12:23
claydohleiar: the main dapper repo, not necessarily the backports rep12:23
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leiarclaydoh: Haven't got any other multiverse repos in my list..12:24
FroggyTheGreatbonbonthejon - I'm about ready to look, yeah.  Got any suggestions or links to them?12:24
bonbonthejonleiar: you might want to use source-o-matic to get a full sources.list12:24
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bonbonthejonFroggyTheGreat: never used them, but I tried super karaba, which is in the repositories12:25
Dhraakelliansuperkaramba12:25
bonbonthejonFroggyTheGreat: or there are panel applets to control amarok, but dont give cover art12:25
bonbonthejonDhraakellian: thanks :)12:25
FroggyTheGreatthe repositories - what Adept looks in?12:25
bonbonthejonFroggyTheGreat: yes12:25
FroggyTheGreatDone and done.  Thank you.12:25
bonbonthejonFroggyTheGreat: it should be in adept12:26
leiarbonbonthejon: sorry, but I don't know about source-o-matic12:26
bonbonthejon!source-o-matic | leiar12:26
ubotuleiar: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:26
Dhraakellianhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php?xsortmode=new&search=1&type=38&name=amarok&user=&text=&sort=0&scorefilter=0&licence=99&page=012:26
bonbonthejonFroggyTheGreat: ^^ Dhraakellian's message12:29
leiarI got the repos for edgy, I've got dapper..12:29
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OptimusRexno. Got into fdisk -l then typed d in the next line and hit enter but got bash: d: command not found12:30
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SubOn1bonbonthejon: that is beside the point, i still need to access the other computer by hostname12:30
bonbonthejonOptimusRex: no -l, "sudo fdisk", then "d", then partition12:30
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bonbonthejonSubOn1: sorry, dont know12:30
leiarsorry again, I chose the wrong version myself..12:31
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phoenixbyrdmoo12:31
bonbonthejonmoo?12:32
phoenixbyrdcopycat12:32
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bonbonthejon!botsnack12:33
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:33
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ubuntuNeed help12:35
bonbonthejon!ask | ubuntu12:35
ubotuubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:35
leiarok, then I have java, flash.. Do I have to install java-plugin for firefox seperately12:35
bonbonthejonleiar: i dont know, try it, I guess12:36
ubuntuI was following a tutorial and they were saying to press ctrl+alt+f1 , so thats what ive done.Then i didnt know how to exit that so i restarted my computer.So now everytime i reboot my computer , after the kubuntu loading i have a black screen just like a kommand window where i can write things...12:36
ubuntuhow can i go back to my kubuntu?12:37
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bonbonthejonubuntu: what was the tutorial changing12:37
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ubuntuit was for the mouse speed12:37
bonbonthejonubuntu: ctrl-alt-f1 went to a different terminal, ctrl-alt-f7 should be your desktop12:37
ubuntubut once i was in the ctrl atl f1 windows i didnt know what to write so i just rebooted.12:37
ubuntuoh12:37
ubuntu!12:37
ubuntuThx =D12:38
leiarmultiverse made it happen :-) what's the name of mplayer plugin for firefox?12:38
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bonbonthejonleiar: search in adept12:38
ubuntuso when ill reboot when the black screen shows up i just press ctrl alt f7 ^12:38
ubuntu???12:38
sayersHow do I make KTorrent my native TOrrent Opener?12:38
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bonbonthejonubuntu: possibly, what exactly did yo change12:38
ubuntunothing12:38
ubuntulol12:38
ubuntui have to go brb in 5 min12:38
leiarbonbonthejon: yes, I don't use adept, I'm in console, you know..12:39
bonbonthejonleiar: ktorrent from console??12:39
leiardo I have to update in adept, if i did it in console?12:39
bonbonthejonleiar: no12:39
leiarbonbonthejon: I haven't said anything about ktorrent, you are mixing me with somone else :-)12:40
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sumguy231leiar: : mplayer-mozilla, I believe. If you want to search for a package, use aptitude search or apt-cache search.12:40
bonbonthejonleiar: too many people to keep track of12:40
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sumguy231Oops, sorry. I meant mozilla-mplayer.12:41
leiarbonbonthejon: a luxury problem, isn't it?12:41
leiarI mean, nice to have a lot of people here.12:42
bonbonthejonleiar: yeah, I didn't understand your last message :)12:42
Dhraakelliansayers: sounds like a KDE question rather than a kubuntu question, which means that I should be able to answer...12:42
leiarsumguy231: mozilla-mplayer12:42
sumguy231Yep.12:42
Dhraakelliansayers: kcontrol (kde control center) > KDE Components > File Associations12:43
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leiarbonbonthejon: We say it in norwegian, If we have a problem wich really isn't a negative problem we cal it a luxury problem, see?12:43
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Dhraakellianfilter for "torrent"12:43
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bonbonthejonleiar: i get it now. Lost in translation :)12:43
Dhraakellianand move KTorrent to the top in the Application Preference Order list12:43
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Dhraakelliansayers: got that?12:43
Dhraakelliansayers: I'm assuming that by "native", you mean "default"12:44
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leiarbye, and thanks a lot12:44
bonbonthejonleiar: take care12:44
fatimy cd/dvd burners are being brought online through scsi emulation, i think this is causing problems for me, does anyone happen to know how to disable scsi emulation for devices at bootup?12:44
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sayersDhraakellian: just looked now12:45
sayersDhraakellian: got it, not sure if it worked tho.12:47
Dhraakelliantry opening a torrent file from your filemanager12:47
Dhraakellian(assuming that you're using a kde-based file manager or webbrowser)12:47
Dhraakellianit won't work for Firefox.  You'd have to set it up separately there12:48
sayersty ty Dhraakellian12:48
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Dhraakelliannp np, sayers12:48
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OptimusRexsudo fdisk d/dev/sda6 gives unable to open d/dev/sda6,12:50
OptimusRexsudo fdisk enter then d then enter gives bash: d: command not found12:51
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rizomaciao12:51
rizomac'e' qualcuno che mi sa aiutare con i driver ntfs?12:51
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rizomaquelli dentro installazione applicazioni poi non me li apre12:52
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thingy!italian12:53
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:53
Pollywogfixed nvidia12:53
Pollywognow I can stop saying it is broken in Feisty :)12:53
Dhraakellianthingy: and here I was searching the channel list12:54
thingyIf you come across #kubuntu-klingon lemme know12:54
rizomasorry!12:54
bonbonthejonOptimusRex: you're still doing it wrong, why not just use cfdisk12:55
OptimusRexgive me the command for fdisk please then even though it keeps giving me a fatal error12:55
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Dhraakellianthingy: or #kubuntu-quenya?12:55
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mooseislooseIf you want $100 for FREE then visit www.freakaddict.com and read the message on the homepage! It only requires a few seconds of work, it's quick and easy and best of all it could make you $100!!! (paypal only)12:55
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bonbonthejonOptimusRex: do "sudo fdisk" that should get you in fdisk, it should ask for a command12:56
Pollywog!spam12:56
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)12:56
thingyDrive by spamming..darn it!12:56
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bonbonthejonI want $100 for FREE :)12:56
Tired_Hi.  Can I simply tar up my whole disk with the Kubuntu install from the live cd to migrate it to a different physical drive, or is there a better way?12:56
Grahambonbonthejon: Really? I want 10000 for free.12:56
DhraakellianTired_: if you have the space, sure12:57
GrahamThat's like $2000012:57
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Pollywogthat is how Trump got rich, right?12:57
GrahamHe's a douche bag.12:57
Tired_Will that move all the /boot and swap and such?12:57
tarelerulzIs there away to install synaptic on kubuntu12:57
leiarI'm back. Forgot to install w32codecs. Isn't that package in multiverse?12:57
DhraakellianTired_: I've been on-and-off trying to figure out how to tar over the network to my mom's HD12:57
GrahamInfact he's not because calling him a douchebag is a compliment because he really is a douche bag.12:57
thingyTired_: Something like Partimage (http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page) is prob. a better choice for you...12:57
Tired_I installed Kubuntu to a 120GB I had handy, but my 250GB is here now, and I wanna move my existing install to it.12:57
tarelerulzHow do you say yes to java sun licence ?12:58
DhraakellianTired_: doing it from the liveCD, you could tar up everything on your root partition12:58
Tired_Ah, sweet.  :)12:58
leiartarelerulz: sudo apt-get install synaptic12:58
DhraakellianTired_: you wouldn't get swap in the tarball unless you're using a swapfile instead of a separate swap partition12:58
leiarwhere do I find w32codes?12:58
Dhraakellianand, afaik, that isn't very common these days12:58
Tired_I think I have a swap partition...I used the Feisty installer12:58
bonbonthejon!wmv | leiar12:59
ubotuleiar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:59
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GrahamHey guys, how screwed am I? I'm at my mates house as you do and he's been interested in Linux, I offered him Kubuntu because I know it's very compatible. Anyway put it it and the wireless isn't working, no surprise.12:59
OptimusRexsudo cfdisk gives fatal error: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions. Press any key to exit cfdisk12:59
PollywogGraham: what card does he have?12:59
bonbonthejonOptimusRex: then use fdisk12:59
Grahamit's a USB dongle, not sure.12:59
Pollywogoic12:59
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Tired_... I have Norton Ghost...will that work to clone a Kubuntu drive?01:00
thingyTired_: yes01:00
Tired_Oh, then I'll use it, then.  :)01:01
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GrahamAnyway, the installer is oblivious to the fact the hard drives are setup with raid and that thers 1 small fat partition and the rest of it is all NTFS, I end up erasing his entire second drive which had nothing on it. Kubuntu is on.01:01
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Pollywogwhy would someone clone a drive like that, to have a backup?01:01
Tired_I got a better drive01:01
Pollywogoic01:01
bouraknaHELLO01:01
bonbonthejonhi bourakna01:01
GrahamRestart and BAM! Grub error 21, grub doesn't seem to like Raids, or at least his raid...01:01
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GrahamSo I'm shitting bricks because I completely screwed my mates computer over. So I tell him I can sort it out with the windows CD he got with the computer... which he has lost...01:02
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PollywogGraham: the next Freespire will be Ubuntu-based01:03
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PollywogFreespire has very good hardware detection01:03
Pollywogbut I am not sure about RAID01:03
GrahamI think it was the raid... it just didn't see it.01:03
bonbonthejonGraham: do "lspci" or "lsusb" to see what type of card it is01:03
GrahamI'm gona go and sort it out.01:03
Grahambonbonthejon: It's a) my mates computer b) other side of town01:04
GrahamI got rid of the raid setup and installed Kubuntu on the first drive, all his stuff well and truley gone and it works now... except for wireless which means I can't give him anything he needs...01:04
GrahamAt that point I gave up.01:04
GrahamI'm gona go back and just flatten his PC, get rid of the raid and put windows on primary and linux on secondary and go home.01:05
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bouraknaHELLO01:05
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leiarIsn' there a repo giving me w32codecs and libdvdcss?01:05
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GrahamYes.01:05
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GrahamIt's one of the official Kubuntu ones, go into Adept and enable it.01:05
bouraknaYA TIL D FRANCIAS ICI01:05
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ubunture01:06
bonbonthejonubuntu: any news01:06
ubuntuwho<s the one who helped me with the black screen a bit early^01:06
ubuntu??/01:06
ubuntuoh hello bonbon01:06
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ubuntuWHen i press alt ctrl f7 the blackscreen kinda freeze and i cant write anything .01:06
bonbonthejon!dvd | leiar01:06
ubotuleiar: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:06
bonbonthejonubuntu: then push ctrl-alt-f1 to get back01:07
bonbonthejonubuntu: also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to try and reconfigure X01:07
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happytigerHi Guys. I am running feisty, with all updates in place. I have many problems with java applications, that stop responding to keyboard input. Apps like Oracle Jbuilder and Aqua Data studio. After an sql query Jbuilder will stop responding to keyboard input, but I can use the mouse to select save and close of the program?????01:08
ubuntuwhats x? btw when i push ctrl alt f1 it show me a kommand windows in full screen01:08
Grahamhappytiger: It's a java feature, they think if they make it really shitty nobody will pirate it.01:08
GWillakersHey guys, when I click a link in Thunderbird it always opens with konqueror.  how can I make it to open with firefox by default?01:09
happytigerHehe01:09
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happytigerBut is there no workaround?01:09
cWolfeGWillakers, start menu, system settings->default applications01:09
happytigerTo unshit the java apps?01:09
ubuntuany idea of what i could do bonbon^01:10
thingyhappytiger: Could be the jdk you are using...are you using the sun jdk or the gnu one?01:10
ubuntu??01:10
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happytigerI tried both jre 5 and jre 6 from SUN same issues01:10
ubuntuFirst i tought << maybe ctrlaltf1 is just like a big kommand window and , maybe my desktop is behing it? >> but ive tryed many things to close it doesnt work01:10
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Pollywogubuntu did you try ctrl-alt-f7 ?01:11
GWillakersit was already set to firefox yet it still uses konqueror.01:11
ubuntuYes01:11
ubuntuit freeze01:11
thingyhappytiger: type in java -version on the console and what jvm does it report?01:11
ubuntui cant do anything when i do ctrl alt f701:11
Pollywogyou can just type exit in that console to exit it01:11
ubuntu...01:11
ubuntumaybe01:11
ubuntu...*why didnt i think of that*01:11
ubuntuok ill try this brb01:11
ubuntuxD01:11
happytigerHi Guys. I am running feisty, with all updates in place. I have many problems with java applications, that stop responding to keyboard input. Apps like Oracle Jbuilder and Aqua Data studio. After an sql query Jbuilder will stop responding to keyboard input, but I can use the mouse to select save and close of the program?????01:11
happytigerups01:11
happytigerjava version "1.6.0"01:12
happytigerJava(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)01:12
happytigerJava HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode)01:12
GWillakerscWolfe : it was already set to firefox yet it still uses konqueror.01:12
happytigerBut i tried to run jre 5 from sun to01:12
happytigersame freeze happens01:12
happytigerIt also happens when I run netbeans01:12
Pollywoghappytiger: why not install a slightly older java version01:13
Pollywog?01:13
happytigerThough netbeans doent die then I can make the keybord input happen again if i force it to open a subwindow01:13
thingyhappytiger: ok sounds like you issue is keyboard focus related and not java related01:13
happytigeri get same results with jre 501:13
cWolfehmm, GWillakers  is there an about:config entry in thunderbird?01:13
Pollywogoic01:13
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thingyhappytiger: which window focus model are you using?01:13
Pollywoghow did you install Java?01:13
happytigerHow to dertemine that?01:14
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Pollywogsure you don't have more than one version installed?01:14
happytigerI installed java via apt01:14
Pollywogk01:14
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happytigerAnd I use galternatives to choose wich java version01:14
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Pollywogk then I don't know why the problems01:14
happytigerI is really weird bug01:15
happytigerAll other programs run fine no ocrash no keyboard freeze01:15
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GWillakerscWolfe : note sure how to do an about:config in thunderbird, i've been driving myself crazy trying to find the thunderbird preference that picks Konqueror.01:16
GWillakersnote=not01:16
happytigerOnly when I run java apps like Jbulder, Netbeans both version 5.5 and the new 6, and with Aqua data studi, but Eclipse never freesez on me it always work01:16
gemidjy_anyone knows how to make dhcp not to overwrite my resolv.conf ?01:16
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thingyhappytiger: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140981  no workarounds listed in the bug...but im still looking01:17
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ubuntuexit doesnt work01:21
ubuntu=,((((((((901:21
Supaplexubuntu: exit on/from what/where? you're far too vague.01:22
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happytigerthingy: It a really weird bug01:22
ubuntuOk im on the live cd right now.Because last time i used kubuntu i pressed ctrl+alt+F1 , i didnt know how to get out of there so i just restarted my comp.BUt now everytime i restart , after the kubuntu loading , i only have a blackscreen where i can write thing.01:23
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Supaplexubuntu: does startx work?01:24
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ubuntuwhat is startx01:24
Supaplexstartx (1)           - initialize an X session01:24
Supaplexare you running off the livecd now? what howto did you follow?01:24
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ubuntu(sorry i am new to kubuntu , i installed yesterday )01:25
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ubuntuYes im on the live cd right now01:25
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ubuntuno i havnt try start x01:25
thingyhappytiger: No luck with the google searches...your options are: a) Mess about with the different keyboard focus models in KWIN (use kcontrol/Window Behaviour and kcontrol/Window-specific settings)  b) Use a different windows manager.01:25
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Supaplexubuntu: and why do you think a live cd is better?01:26
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leiarI find it difficult to install w32codecs, I guess I have to have it to play web TV01:26
ubuntu???01:27
ubuntuwtf01:27
ubuntuim on the live cd right now BECAUSE i cant go on my installation of kubuntu01:27
ubuntuBecause of the blackscreen01:27
leiarIsn't it possible to apt-get w32codecs01:27
ubuntuIm here to resquest help01:27
Supaplexubuntu: I'm attempting to understand exactly what you're up to. don't get hostile on me :)01:27
ubuntusorry but im working kubuntu since 3 am this morning01:28
ubuntuIm a bit tired =/01:28
HymnToLifeleiar, yes it is, if you have the correct repos enabled01:28
Supaplexubuntu: a working console is ok afaik, that's fixable w/o the cd.  If you need bedrest, I can't help you with that problem.01:28
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Supaplexubuntu: if you can boot to a login prompt w/o the cd, reboot and disregard the live cd.01:28
ubuntu...01:28
ubuntuso what should i do01:28
Supaplexafter you login as yourself, run startx. that should load X.  Do you have anyway to communicate here while doing all this?01:29
ubuntuno=(01:30
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happytigerthingy: Ill try mess around with the choises you agve me thanks01:30
leiarubuntu: find another box to install on. I've never experienced black screen, and I've installed both laptops and desktops01:30
leiaranybody who can tip me on an easy way to install w32codecs?01:30
leiarIf you don't use w32codecs, how can you play web tv and dvds?01:30
Supaplexubuntu: can you tell me what howto you followed? I can review it and come up with some ideas why you're in this situation.01:30
ubuntummm 2  sec01:31
ubuntu!mouse01:31
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto01:31
leiarHymnToLife: could you please give me the repos?01:31
leiarI run dapper drake01:31
HymnToLife!w32codecs | leiar01:31
ubotuleiar: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs01:31
ubuntuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto01:31
Supaplexubuntu: oh, so you enabled extra mouse buttons from these howtos?01:31
HymnToLifeand a nice highlight for Mr. S. :p01:32
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HymnToLife(if he was there)01:32
ubuntui was following these instruction , i didnt read everything and just tested ctrl alt f1 , i didnt know how to get out so i rebooted01:32
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Supaplexubuntu: well C+A+F1 won't cause that to happen. I think you modified the xorg.conf or installed/uninstalled something else to cause that.01:33
ubuntui didnt do anything.I just rebooted with crlt alt delete01:33
SupaplexC+A+F1 through F12 will switch between all (configured) virtual terminals. X usually occupies 7, eg C+A+F7 puts you back in X if it's still running.01:33
ubuntuive tried c+a+f7 but it freeze01:34
Supaplexubuntu: ok. have you mounted any target filesystems while on the livecd?01:34
ubuntuno01:34
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bonbonthejonubuntu: what video card do you have01:35
ubuntunvidia gforce 7600GS01:35
bonbonthejonhmm01:35
ubuntuAsus nvidia 7600GS01:35
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Supaplexubuntu: cat /proc/partitions to review what partitions the kernel is aware of.  You should be able to mount your root filesystem on /mnt and chroot into it and inspect further.01:36
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ubuntu...im not all confortable with that . ive installed kubuntu yesterday so i dont know how to use it that much01:37
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ubuntu_how i can i open my pendrive01:38
ubuntu_???01:38
bonbonthejonubuntu: what did you change, X doesnt stop working for no reason01:38
bonbonthejonubuntu_: mount it01:38
Supaplexubuntu: I guess you could reinstall, but you'll loose any new data you don't have backed up.  Try rebooting to the system anyway,and run "startx" after you login.01:38
ubuntu_bonbonthejon:  how can i make it ??01:38
ubuntu_bonbonthejon:  my hd aren`t showing too =/01:38
ubuntui havnt change anything! Ive just pressed ctrl alt f1 , it didnt work so i restarted with c+a+del01:38
bonbonthejonubuntu_: what did you change01:39
Supaplexubuntu: for the record, what you've told us so far, should not produce the symptomps you've stated. A reboot would start your login/display manger, and drop to your X11 desktop.01:39
ubuntuOk ill try start x01:39
Supaplexit's one word, all lowercase.01:39
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ubuntui type that in c+a+f1 ?01:39
bonbonthejonubuntu: yes01:39
ubuntuok01:39
ubuntu_how can i mount my hds and view my pendrive ????????????01:39
ubuntuthanx01:39
Supaplexubuntu: yes, after you login at the login prompt.01:40
ubuntuI hope ill be back on kubuntu ...01:40
ubuntuno the live cd01:40
ubuntuthx01:40
Supaplexcorrect.01:40
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Supaplexubuntu_: just plug it in?01:40
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eamsUbuntu, if you did ctrl+alt+f1 you can press ctrl+alt+f7, try that in instaled Kubuntu01:40
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bonbonthejonubuntu_: do "df -h", it should show your hard drives01:41
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Supaplexeams: he says he tried that, and it frooze.  For all I know it's just an empty blank screen because X wasn't running there.01:41
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ubuntu_bonbonthejon: on kubuntu sheell ???01:41
bonbonthejonubuntu_: yes01:41
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ubuntu_it shows no HD01:42
bonbonthejonubuntu_: are you on a live cd01:42
ubuntu_=/ yes01:42
vidar_hello01:42
bonbonthejonubuntu_: I dont know then01:42
bonbonthejonvidar_: hi01:42
vidar_how are things?01:44
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eamsSupaplex, but where he did that? If he dit'it in the LiveCD never will work...01:45
navidHey all...01:46
ubuntu_ i have 2 hds01:46
navidDoes anyone here use Konversation?01:46
ubuntu_of 80gb01:46
ubuntu_how can i know what is sata ?01:46
MegloI LOST THE GAME01:46
bonbonthejonubuntu_: by the device name01:46
eamsnavid, I do01:46
Supaplexeams: ahh true. a reboot should cure that anyway, you'd think. right?01:46
bonbonthejonMeglo: great, now I did too01:46
navidWow -- I never knew Konversation was such a great IRC client.01:46
ubuntu_=/ i dont know01:46
ubuntu_im viewing then on install01:46
Supaplexirssi+screen > * ;)01:47
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HymnToLifenavid, that's normal, it isn't :p01:47
bonbonthejonubuntu_: sd_ would be an SATA one01:47
HymnToLifebonbonthejon, not anymore01:47
HymnToLifeall HDs ae sdX in Feisty01:47
freshmeatTell me, eams... how would it be possible for me to connect to a server in a seperate window?01:47
freshmeat...is there a switch for this?01:47
HymnToLifefreshmeat, what kind of server ?01:47
bonbonthejonHymnToLife: ah, then how can you tell01:47
nosrednaekimfreshmeat: a server?01:47
freshmeatIn mIRC, for instance, the switch is '-m' in connecting to a server on a seperate area.01:48
eamsSupaplex. Yes, I think... Well, I don't now too much about Linux...01:48
freshmeatAny kind of server, nosrednaekim.01:48
bonbonthejonubuntu_: I know there is lsscsi, but you need to install that01:48
nosrednaekimfreshmeat: ah.. a IRC one..01:48
HymnToLifefreshmeat, in which client ?01:48
ubuntu_ i know the device name01:48
freshmeatSure, nosrednaekim -- sorry for not making that clear.01:48
ubuntu_how can i mount it ?::??01:48
freshmeatHymnToLife: Konversation.01:48
HymnToLifeuse xchat01:48
lobstermeglo: the game?  Do I know how to play the game?01:49
MegloHere let me show you01:49
bonbonthejonlobster: search wiki pedia for01:49
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bonbonthejon"the game"01:49
freshmeatWell, HymnToLife, it seems that Konversation is winning me over xchat.01:49
freshmeat...a great client.01:49
vinisterxBrb01:49
HymnToLifekonversation winning over xchat ?01:49
HymnToLifeseems we're back on April 1st, I must bring my DeLoren to maintenance :p01:50
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ubuntu_ i know the device name01:50
ubuntu_how can i mount it ?::??01:51
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HymnToLifemount -t filesystem /dev/something /somewhere01:51
freshmeatWow -- this is much better.01:51
freshmeatGuys -- at the moment, I'm running gubuntu instead of kubuntu.01:52
HymnToLifegubuntu, what's that ?01:52
freshmeatWould it be possible to convert to kubuntu from gubuntu?01:52
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic01:52
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:52
freshmeatHymnToLife: gnome-ubuntu01:52
HymnToLifeoh, I see01:52
ubuntu_i read01:52
ubuntu_command not found01:52
HymnToLifeUbuntu with a *REAL* gnome ?01:52
freshmeatI guess, HymnToLife.01:53
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freshmeatI was wondering if it would be possible to convert to kubuntu from gnome-ubuntu.01:53
HymnToLifemaybe I would switch back to it, then01:53
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HymnToLifefreshmeat, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:53
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eamsfreshmeat, I'm sorry, I was looking for that, but I coldn't find it...01:53
freshmeatAh, HymnToLife.01:54
freshmeatI'll definately check that out.01:54
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ubuntuerf01:55
ubuntu=(01:55
ubuntuIm back on live cd guys...01:55
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Pollywogubuntu: having trouble installing ubuntu?01:55
ubuntuno01:55
ubuntuBUt01:56
Pollywogk01:56
freshmeatWow...01:56
freshmeatThanks, HymnToLife.01:56
ubuntuLet me show you my problem01:56
freshmeatWhat would be the reasons to hate gnome?01:56
freshmeat...are there any general criticisms of it?01:56
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PollywogGnome is nice, gotten much better recently01:56
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lobsterbonbonthejon: nofo info the game :(01:56
eamsUbuntu, I don't know too much, but I want to Know what is hapening with you01:56
ubuntu_how can i log as root :01:57
ubuntu_?01:57
Pollywogyou want criticisms, read the now defunt TUX magazine01:57
Admiral_Chicagofreshmeat: this conversation is offtopic, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic01:57
thingyfreshmeat: People don't gnomes...because they look like tiny little people...but they don't move...just sit there in the garden...staring at stuff. Gnomes are weird!01:57
nosrednaekimfreshmeat: not configureable enough is ussually the main gripe people have with it01:57
ubuntu_?01:57
ubuntu_how can i log as root :01:57
ubuntuYesterday ive installed kubuntu . Today i was following a tutorial and i pressed ctrl+alt+f1.It opened a big black window , i didnt know how to get out so i rebooted my computer. Now everytime i reboot i got a big black screen. Ive tried ctrl+alt+F6 , ive also tryed startx but nothing works....01:57
freshmeatI see.01:57
freshmeatSorry...01:57
Admiral_Chicago!root | ubuntu01:57
ubotuubuntu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:57
freshmeatI will refrain from being off-topic here.01:57
HymnToLifewe're on a KDE chan, GNome-bashing is not offtopic :p01:58
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PollywogTUX magazine had a section called "Mango Parfait" and Mango was very critical of Gnome, it was very funny01:58
ubuntuwhat should i do now?01:59
Pollywogyou can still get the old issues01:59
eamsubuntu_ in liveCD in a terminal "sudo passwd" to change password, then put someting and then "so root" and tour password01:59
lobsterubuntu: what about ctrl-alt-F7 ?01:59
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ubuntuSame thing nothing happens or the screen freeze01:59
Pollywogubuntu are you using nvidia?01:59
eamsubuntu, in the big black screen press ctrl+alt+F702:00
eamsDid you tried that?02:00
ubuntuyes02:01
ubuntuim using nvidia02:01
ubuntuctrl+a+f7 does nothing , or freeze.02:01
Pollywogcan you get a console?02:01
ubuntuyes02:01
Pollywogwith ctrl-altf2 for example?02:01
ubuntuyes02:01
Pollywogk, are you using gdm or kdm?02:01
ubuntu???02:01
ubuntukubuntu?02:01
ubuntu*newbie*02:02
Pollywogk then kdm02:02
Pollywogin a console try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'02:02
Pollywogthen in the same console try 'startx'02:02
eamsmmm, that's strange... ubuntu, if you install Kubuntu yesterday I think you can reinstall or try to repair with your CD...02:02
ubuntustartx doesnt work.02:03
Pollywogwe are interested in the errors02:03
Pollywogwhat are the errors from startx?02:03
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ubuntufailed to initialize core device02:03
eamsubuntu_ can you start as a root?02:03
ubuntui think thats the last line i get02:03
Pollywogk02:03
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Pollywogkubuntu Feisty right?02:03
thingyubuntu: Which steps from the serialmouse howto did you carry out02:04
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ubuntunumber 102:04
thingyubuntu: and?02:04
ubuntui readed the line n ive tested it02:04
ubuntuc+a+f102:04
ubuntuthats it02:04
niallis it possible to run a command on kubuntu start up?02:04
ubuntui didnt knew how to get out of this window so i rebooted02:04
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Pollywogniall: I assume you are using kde so you can put scripts in ~/.kde/startup/02:05
thingyubuntu: if your in the live cd now, is your hard disk mounted?02:05
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ubuntuno02:05
thingyubuntu: do you know how to mount it?02:05
Pollywogoops it is ~/.kde/autostart/02:05
ubuntuin the boot section of my bios ive disable my hard drive to boot on my cd02:05
ubuntuyes in the bios02:06
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thingyubuntu: no..thats not what I meant02:06
thingyubuntu: on the live cd, open a konsole02:06
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ubuntuok02:06
SubOn1How do i share files on one Kubuntu box with anothe kubuntu box?02:06
thingyubuntu: type in the word: "mount" and paste the contents into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then paste the url it give you here02:07
PollywogSubOn1: you can use NFS or FISH02:07
stittelSubOn1: Depends on what you wont.02:07
tarelerulzI am trying to install java runtime everment and Get the licence and I can't seem to say ok to the licence02:07
stittelSubOn1: Properly, you use NFS.02:07
thingytarelerulz: press tab once and then enter02:07
Pollywogeven Samba though that is usually for Windows machines02:07
SubOn1it says NFS is not installed, what is the package name?02:07
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stittelSubOn1: If it is just for "sometimes copying a file over", other things will be more easy.02:07
tarelerulzThanks Thingy .02:07
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19550/02:07
stittelSubOn1: Like setting up an SSH daemon and using sftp/scp (fully supported in Konquero).02:08
eamsthingy, read this, and tell me what do you think: <ubuntu> in the boot section of my bios ive disable my hard drive to boot on my cd02:08
SubOn1stittel: it is for photos and streaming music files to a player02:08
stittelSubOn1: Setting up SSH is a good idea anyway, so you can access your box if the display has freezed.02:08
Pollywogstittel: thanks for all your help with my nvidia and VMware problems.  They are fixed.02:08
stittelPollywog: Great! What did you do?02:08
SubOn1stittel: yeah thats another thing i want to set up remote login, but i dont know how02:09
PollywogI installed the vmware packages from ubuntu and installed workstation 6 beta02:09
tarelerulzthingy , pushing tab onice and then enter did not work02:09
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thingyeams: that sentence just means, he didnt know how to change the boot order and had to disable the hdd to boot via cdrom.02:09
Pollywogand I am not quite certain how I fixed nvidia but I removed all nvidia packages and then installed  nvidia-glx-new02:09
stratman4300is workstation 6 free???02:09
Pollywogno not free02:09
Pollywogbut server would not work for me02:09
tarelerulzI can make the whole line black and my the word ok black02:10
Pollywogand I already buy workstation anyway02:10
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thingytarelerulz: are you installing from a download from sun's site or via a .deb file?02:10
SubOn1What is the package to install for NFS?02:10
eamsthingy: Yes, how can he mount his hd if he disable his hd?02:10
stittelSubOn1: Install openssh-server.02:10
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Pollywogstittel: you were very patient, thanks for that02:11
stittelPollywog: And the Ubuntu Nvidia packages I suppose?02:11
SubOn1stittel: k...02:11
niallgot it, thanks Pollywog02:11
tarelerulzI am use apept to insatll java02:11
tarelerulzI am adept to install java runtime everent02:11
Pollywogstittel: yes I removed all of them and then just installed nvidia-glx-new02:11
stittelSubOn1: If you just need to copy files occasionally and if you have running SSH anyway, you can just use it.02:11
stittelPollywog: Alright! Have fun using Kubuntu. :)02:12
thingyeams: hmm he can't02:12
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tarelerulzI would download the deb ,but I can't seem to get deb not to open it with kate02:12
Pollywogty02:12
SubOn1stittel: it says it is installed02:12
eamsthingy: I just want to help, and I don't know too much...02:12
bonbonthejontarelerulz: you dont open a .deb with kate02:12
stittelSubOn1: Check if it is runing.02:12
thingyubuntu: what type of hard disk is it? ide or scsi or sata?02:12
Pollywogand glxgears and glxinfo tell me all is well02:12
ubuntusata02:13
stittelSubOn1: type "ps -A | grep ssh" on console.02:13
bonbonthejontarelerulz: in konqueror, there is a menu option to install02:13
SubOn1stittel: i am logged in... so yeah it works02:13
thingytarelerulz: are you trying to install jdk 6 or 5?02:13
SubOn1stittel: can i run X through ssh like this?02:13
bonbonthejonSubOn1: yes02:13
tarelerulzI am trying to install 5 java02:13
SubOn1How can I run X through ssh and how can i transfer files?02:13
thingytarelerulz: ubuntu: do you recall your partitioning scheme?02:14
thingyack02:14
stittelSubOn1: Yes, in general you can use SSH to run X applications on anohter box.02:14
thingyubuntu: do you recall your partitioning scheme?02:14
ubunturecall? scheme?02:14
ubuntu( im french sorrryyy )02:14
tarelerulzext3 is the partition type02:14
thingyubuntu: how did you partition the hard disk02:14
thingytarelerulz: sorry that msg wasn't for you02:14
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stittelSubOn1: If SSH is running and configured to do file transfer (should be default), you can just enter sftp://username@myhost into konqueror and access the files this way.02:14
ubuntuwhen i installed kubuntu yesterday02:14
thingytarelerulz: did you want to install java 5 or java 6?02:14
ubuntui telled him to format everything and install kubuntu02:15
tarelerulzI would like any newer java02:15
thingytarelerulz: please put my name in front of your messages...else I can't follow what you say...its harder!02:15
tarelerulzI got the bin file and it said it could not install java it could not find sfv02:15
Pollywogtarelerulz: if you want to install a version newer than what ubuntu has, use java-package02:15
SubOn1yay02:16
tarelerulzthingy,  I try to install from bin and adept .02:16
SubOn1ty02:16
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stittelSubOn1: Is the ssh server running on your system? Just checke by typine "ps -A | grep ssh" on console.02:16
Pollywogjava-package is a package that makes a deb from the jre tarballs02:16
thingytarelerulz: one more question...did you want the jdk or the jre?02:16
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Pollywogso that your other packages will know about the java you install02:17
SubOn1stittel: yes02:17
eamsI'm sorry, I don't speak English very well, can someone tell me what widget means? It is like a class?02:17
tarelerulzThingy, what is the differents ? I just want to run something that use java like frostwire02:17
PollywogI use that because I learned that in my debian days02:17
stittelSubOn1: Do you have access to another box right now, so you can test it?02:17
Pollywogwidget refers to a gui component02:17
SubOn1stittel: hahah woops i logged in to my local syatem02:17
ubuntuso what should i do?02:17
thingytarelerulz: then you want the jre...type in sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre in a konsole window02:18
stittelSubOn1: What exactly have you tried right now?02:18
SubOn1stittel: how can i get my desktop computer to tell my router its hostname so i can connect to it by the hostname?02:18
stittelSubOn1: If I remember correctly, the default configuration will allow you to login and copy files from/to your systme.02:18
ubuntuI dont want that to happen anymore in the future , if it does , i will not reinstall kubuntu everytime i hit ctrl alt f1 =((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((02:18
stittelSubOn1: How big is your network, i. e. how many computers have you got/02:18
SubOn1202:19
stittelSubOn1: Are IP statically or assigned dynamically?02:19
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stittelubuntu: That should be easily preventable. :)02:19
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tarelerulzThingy, I get that something else is use "/var/lib/dpkg/lock".02:20
Pollywogtarelerulz: that happens when you already have apt-get running02:20
SubOn1stittel: dhcp, also it seems sshd is not running on the desktop02:20
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Pollywogsure you don't have adept or some other apt running?02:21
thingytarelerulz: shut down adept02:21
stittelSubOn1: If you want to keep assigning IP adresses the way you to, you need to setup a DNS server.02:21
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eamsPollywog, I've a work, and my teacher did a question, about classes, but he says that buttons and windows are... And in the gtkmm documentation says widget... I'm confused...02:21
stittelSubOn1: I, however, would prefer to assign IP statically. Give 192.168.0.1 to your server and 192.168.0.2 to your desktop.02:21
Pollywogyes the buttons and windows are widgets, I don't think C++ classes are widgets02:21
tarelerulzI get the same error02:22
stittelSubOn1: If IPs are assigned statically, you can just add the hostname to /etc/hosts and they will be resolvable without a namesever.02:22
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tarelerulzThingy, I closed adept and I still get that error.02:22
SubOn1stittel: no my desktop is my server and my laptop is the one i want to keep as dhcp at least02:22
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Pollywogbut there are classes that have the word widget in their name02:22
eamsMmm, so I've a big problem...02:22
stittelSubOn1: The configure your DHCP server to always give out the same IP address to your notebook.02:22
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eamsPollywog thank you02:23
SubOnestittel: I don't think my router can do that02:23
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Pollywogeams: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+widget&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-802:24
SubOnestittel: I installed opensshd-server on the desktop, now how do i start it02:24
stittelSubOne: If your server is always turned on when you use the notebook, let your server play the DHCP server.02:24
stittelSubOne: Check if it is started automatically.02:24
SubOnestittel: how the hell do i do that :p02:24
stittelSubOne: "ps -A | grep ssh"02:25
PollywogSubOne:  /etc/init.d/ssh start02:25
Pollywogbut in some distros you have to enable it to start02:25
SubOnestittel: no it was started i accidentally was typing -a02:26
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PollywogI think that in Ubuntu it is enabled when you install it02:26
DerekSis there a place where i can get a description of the different types of panels in kde?02:26
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eamsPollywog thank you, that's very good!02:26
Pollywog:)02:26
stittelSubOne: Alright. To ease things you can create password-less keypairs for each host and then log-in without having to type the password.02:26
ejupinHow can I default one particular player for videos.. whenever I try to play something, it never seems to know how to open it..02:26
stittelSubOne: This you will probably want to do on a 2-computer setup.02:27
SubOnestittel: Well first i have to setup the desktop as the DHCP server soemhow right02:27
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stittelejupin: Why don't you want to switch to static IPs entirely/02:27
ubuntu_hp m7360n not seeing cf reader w/ feisty boot disk.  Is CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN enabled?02:27
stittelPardon.02:27
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stittelSubOne: Why don't you want to switch to static IPs entirely? DHCP is not very much useful with just 2 computers.02:28
Pollywogejupin: in Konqueror (is that what you use?) settings > configure konqueror > file associations02:28
SubOnestittel: because i take my laptop with me and i need to connect to other networks with dhcp02:28
ejupinpollywog: firefox, but i can use konqueror for videos02:28
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stittelSubOne: So?02:29
CPrgmSwR2Hi, are their any grub experts in here because I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong02:29
stittelSubOne: Are you using network-manager?02:29
SubOnestittel: KNetworkManager02:29
CPrgmSwR2I installed kubuntu with no boot loader because I have one with gentoo and I added a line to boot kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 but I get kernel panic unable to mount hdb102:30
stittelSubOne: I am not an expert on this software, but can't you set "locations" there?02:30
stittelSubOne: Like a "mobile" location for use with DHCP and a "home" location with static IP?02:30
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Pollywogyes one can set profiles/locations in KDE02:30
Pollywogin the networking setup02:30
SubOnestittel: "Network Profiles" maybe, i didn't realize it was possible... my old network manager i dont think allowed it02:31
Pollywogsystem settings > networking02:31
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Pollywogsystem settings > network settings02:31
stittelSubOne: Yes, this is what you probably want.02:31
PollywogI do that with my laptop02:32
SubOnestittel: so you suggest i should setup both computers with static IP and then just add each other to the hosts files02:32
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stittelSubOne: Yes.02:32
SubOnestittel: ok, hold on02:32
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ubuntu_hp m7360n not seeing cf reader w/ feisty boot disk.  Is CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN enabled?  Trick is, seeing CompactFlash is a show stopper.  Won't install until I know how to make it work.  Help anyone?02:34
PollywogI have WinTV-HVR... anyone gotten them to work in Linux?02:35
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PollywogI tried it with MythTV in Debian some time ago but it would not quite work02:35
Dekkardis the compact flash card from a camera?02:35
ubuntu_Yes.02:35
thingyubuntu_: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y on the feisty kernel02:35
Pollywogno it is a WinTV USB stick02:36
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Dekkardhave you tried leaving it in the camera and using gphoto?02:36
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SubOn1ok i have a static ip now lemme setup the other comp02:36
ubuntu_No...  Might work though.  Good idea...02:36
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PollywogSubOn1: if you have a router like the Linksys broadband routers you can have that act as DHCP server if you need that02:37
Kr4t05Hey, is anyone else having issues with KTorrent crashing with a SIGSEV?02:37
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Pollywogand use the MAC address to assign the same address to a certain MAC02:37
SubOn1crap how do i save a file in nano02:37
avalon_Is there any way to grab all the images alone from a site? Like a spider except for images only?02:38
stittelPollywog: That's what I suggested, but SubOn1 thinks his router isn't capable of doing that.02:38
Pollywogavalon: curl02:38
Pollywogoic02:38
osirisavalon_, i think there are firefox extensions that will do that02:38
Pollywogstittel: oic02:38
stittelSubOn1: CTRL+X and it asks for saving.02:38
Kr4t05avalon_: Maybe a wget shell script.02:38
SubOn1stittel: no no it does work as a DHCP server, but it wont give me a 'static' DHCP address based onmy MAC02:38
avalon_Can they handle the fact that a link must be clicked to get to the full image?02:38
stittelSubOn1: Which is what Pollywog has been suggestion.02:39
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SubOn1k02:39
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MenaWhere to locate my colors schemes02:39
Menawhere they saved02:40
Pollywogmy Linksys WRT-54GS does it but I am running DDWRT not the oem firmware02:40
osirisavalon_, probably not.  try them out and see.  i think one was called downloadthem-all02:40
stittelMena: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes02:40
Pollywogavalon: spider downloads can get you blocked so be careful02:40
Menastittel, ohh Thanks :)02:40
ubuntu_Off to try gphoto - thanks Dekkard.  TTFN02:41
Dekkardno prob dood02:41
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Dekkardlook up f-spot as well..02:42
SubOn1stittel: brb lemme setup the other comp with static ip02:42
freshmeatHey...02:42
Pollywogf-spot is nice02:42
freshmeatThe kubuntu download has finished.02:42
freshmeatHow do I apply it?02:42
freshmeat...apply it from gnome.02:43
Pollywogfor a long time I could not install it because it uses mono, IIRC02:43
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os2macclear02:43
os2macis netstumbler in the repository anywhere?02:43
PollywogI think you have to download it from the netstumbler site02:44
avalon_Yep02:44
Pollywogisn't it a Firefox extension?02:44
Dekkard?02:45
Dekkardahh i see DigiKam is the KDE app..02:45
Dekkardi been using gnome for so long02:45
DerekSis there a reason that compiz requires lib gnome?02:45
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biovoreDerekS: the configuration gui is in gtk02:46
DerekSso there is no way around that?02:46
SubOn1stittel: ok i can now ping the desktops hostname thats a good start02:46
Dekkardi would think not02:46
SubOn1stittel: now how do i setup the password save thing02:46
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Dekkardnot unless there is a qt front end02:47
stittelSubOn1: Have you already tried transferring files?02:47
SubOn1stittel: no hold on02:47
DerekSDekkard: so i cna't really use compiz without gnome?02:47
sdlnxgk??? what is the fastest way to download files from one linux box to another on the same network??02:47
Pollywogyou don't need gnome just the gnome libs02:47
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SubOn1stittel: nvm, it asks to save my password :p02:48
i0nHello02:48
stittelSubOn: Use konqueror, type sftp://myotherhost.02:48
freshmeatHello?02:48
stittelSubOn1: Oh yes, you can also safe the password in Konqueror, if this fits you.02:48
stittelSubOn1: This will safe the effort of genertating a keypair.02:48
os2macseems netstumbler is only for Windows.02:48
freshmeatHow do I apply kde from gnome?02:48
freshmeatI just finished downloading it.02:48
PollywogI just use ssh-agent and FISH02:48
os2macwhat is the linux equivelant.02:48
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stittelSubOn1: Of course the password saved in Konqueror will only work in Konqueror. If that's enough for you, keep it this way.02:49
osirissdlnxgk, google scp02:49
PollywogI thought netstumber had a firefox extension02:49
SubOn1stittel: yeah that works, ty02:49
freshmeatGuys -- I just finished download kde.02:50
freshmeatHow do I apply it from gnome in Ubuntu?02:50
stittelSubOn1: Do you also want to remotely execute X applications?02:50
freshmeatdownloading *02:50
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Dekkardfreshmeat:  dood.. all you nned to do is open a terminal and type in : sudo apt-get install kde02:52
Dekkardyou dont need to download anything from anywhere02:52
SubOn1stittel: as in being able to see them locally?02:52
Dekkardor sudo pat-get install kubuntu-desktop02:52
Dekkardapt-get02:53
Dekkard sorry for the typos02:53
Dekkardthe beauty of any Debian derived system is that you can  install just about anything form the distros repositories02:53
bobesponjaDekkard: pat-get ? :)02:53
Dekkardapt-get02:53
bobesponjathat's my name :)02:54
freshmeatWell, Dekkard, it's already been installed.02:54
stittelSubOn1: As in "run application on computer A, but display it's window on computer B".02:54
SubOn1yes02:54
Kr4t05Hrm... Why doesn't my scroll wheel work?02:54
Dekkardfreshmeat:  ok  you now need to log out and log back in under session :ked.. you know from the login screen?02:54
freshmeatSure02:54
freshmeatLater02:54
Dekkardfrack.. kde02:54
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stittelSubOn1: Check if "X11Forwarding yes" is in your /etc/sshd/sshd_config02:55
|lostbyte|could you link me to a short an simple iptables guide you find convenient when learning it ?02:55
Dekkardi think my model M needs cleaning02:55
SubOn1stittel: God, I wish there was a voting platform for Linux users, you'd get my vote for most helpful in the past couple months02:55
stittelSubOn1: If not, set it, and restart sshd by: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart02:55
SubOn1stittel: on the server right02:55
osiriswhere is the php executable located in ubuntu, and what package would i need if it is not installed ?02:56
SubOn1stittel: there does not appear to be an /etc/sshd/02:56
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stittelSubOn1: Sorry, /etc/ssh02:56
CPrgmSwR2Does the kubuntu kernel support reiserfs out of the box?02:56
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SubOn1yeah thast tehre02:56
stittelCPrgmSwR2: Yes.02:56
CPrgmSwR2Okay because I am getting a kernel panic02:56
SubOn1stittel: can i sudo through ssh?02:57
stittelSubOn1: Once you have a remote shell, you can do what you like.02:57
SubOn1k, cuz my wife is on there now :p02:57
osirisSubOn1, if the user has sudo access yes02:57
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stittelSubOn1: Don't forget to restart sshd after making the change.02:58
stittelSubOn1: Don't just add the line, look for it and change it to "yes", it should be already there.02:58
sdlnxgkosiris, thanks will do that ;)02:58
SubOn1stittel: it was but it was commented and set to no02:58
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stittelSubOn1: Yes, "no" is the default. Comment it in and set it to yes. Then restart the sshd daemon.02:59
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navidHey...02:59
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freshmeatHeh02:59
freshmeatI cannot change the environment to KDE.02:59
freshmeatIt's still gnome ;\02:59
os2macso what does one use to wardrive with in Linux03:00
osirisso anyone got any klews on php ?03:00
freshmeatThere have only been additions of kde software.03:00
stittelos2mac: Notebooks.03:00
os2macsoftware?03:00
SubOn1stittel: it says extra argument restart03:00
osirisairsnort03:00
stittelSubOn1: "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart"03:00
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stittelSubOn1: "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"03:01
SubOn1there is no sshd in init.d03:01
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stittelSubOn1: I am to used to other distributions where things are named slighlty different, sorry.03:01
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SubOnesubone@subonedt:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/sshd restart03:01
SubOneExtra argument restart.03:02
stittelSubOne: Nono!03:02
freshmeatSo, any views here on what I could do?03:02
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stittelSubOne: Don't touch /etc/sbin/sshd!03:02
SubOnestittel: oops03:02
stittelSubOne: Use the init script. It's there. It's named "ssh" not "sshd" as I said.03:02
SubOneoh03:02
stittelSubOn1: "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"03:02
KaoticEvilwould a 4GB HD be big enuf to install kubuntu fiesty on?03:02
SubOnestittel: do i need to undo any damage i just did by running that?03:03
stittelSubOne: I don't think so.03:03
SubOne(firefox-bin:17499): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:03:04
stittelSubOne: Not so easy. :)03:04
SubOnelol03:04
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stittelSubOne: Quit your ssh session. Then login again with: ssh -Y hostname03:04
SubOneah -Y03:04
SubOneexcellent03:05
stittelSubOnes: Ok, great, if this works I'll go to bed now. It's already 3:05am after here. :)03:05
SubOnestittel: ty so much03:06
stittelSubOne: If you are having to handle larger setups with let's say more then 10 computers, what we just have done here doesn't really scale.03:06
SubOnestittel: ic, well this is fine for now i appreciate it03:06
stittelSubOne: Then you need to use NFS with for example NIS for file sharing.03:06
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CPrgmSwR2Can someone help me with a kernel panic03:06
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stittelSubOne: Yes, for just a few computers this is an easy and flexible and also quite safe setup. I have something similar myself at home.03:07
stittelSubOne: You're welcome. Have fun using Kubuntu and good night!03:07
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K`zanI loaded a CD and it mounted but now, trying to unmount it it thinks that konqueror is using it - not.  Any suggestions short of rebooting to clear it?03:08
stittel:)03:08
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K`zanok, shades of wincrap, reboot it is :-(.03:09
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sdlnxgkosiris, awesome !! everything is copying over to the new sata drive thanks !!!03:10
osirisyou're welcom03:10
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fatimy cd/dvd burners are being brought online through scsi emulation, i think this is causing problems for me, does anyone happen to know how to disable scsi emulation for devices at bootup?03:11
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CPrgmSwR2Can someone paste their menu.lst from their /boot partition?03:17
CPrgmSwR2thats too rafb.net03:18
CPrgmSwR2rafb.net/paste03:18
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DerekSis there an official kde search client?03:18
pulaskihello03:18
DerekSlike a beagle for kde?03:18
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pulaskican someone please tell me where on kubuntu fiesty fawn the ENVIRONMENTSL variables are set?03:19
KaoticEvilanybody?03:19
comodocan someone tel me how to change your file view in konquer perminitly03:19
biovorepulaski: /etc/profile or ~.bashrc03:20
pulaskithank you comodo03:20
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KaoticEvilwould a 4GB HD be big enuf to install Kubuntu Fiesty?03:22
i0nyep03:23
crimsunthat's tolerable.03:23
KaoticEvilcool03:23
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KaoticEvilhow much space would i have left for ~? approximately03:23
KaoticEvilfrom a default install03:24
JucatoKaoticEvil: "Desktop install requires at least 256MB of RAM and 3GB of available hard drive space."03:24
Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php03:24
KaoticEvilah, looked for it... musta missed it03:24
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KaoticEvilthanks :)03:24
sayersWhat is the offtopic channel?03:25
Jucatosayers: #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic03:25
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KaoticEvilJucato:  i would presume the xubuntu requirements to be about the same?03:27
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Jucatoprobably even lower03:27
Jucatow/ regards to RAM03:28
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KaoticEvilhmmm... alright03:28
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KaoticEvilwell, RAM isnt the issue.. ive got 578MB03:28
Jucato:)03:29
KaoticEvilbut my 10GB laptop drive took a dive on me03:29
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KaoticEvilyup, 1.5GB,,, i can deal with that :)03:29
KaoticEvilthanks!03:29
OptimusRexhow do I uninstall kubuntu while running the live cd. Can yo help me, please03:31
voidmageOptimusRex: ?03:31
OptimusRexyes03:31
voidmageOptimusRex: what do you mean?03:31
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OptimusRexI installed kubuntu on the free partition on a windows machine but windows was installed on drive D; Now I cannot dual boot. I was told to delete the kubuntu partition while running the live cd to remove kubuntu. is there another way to remove kubuntu from the hard disk?03:33
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strabesOptimusRex: mount the drive in the live CD and then delete everything on it...?03:34
strabesOptimusRex: I'd recommend formatting the partition though03:34
Cnl_Deltawha boots OptimusRex03:35
OptimusRexyou mean mount the free space then format or just format? The Kubuntu boots without a choice of os to boot from03:35
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Cnl_Deltahmm03:36
Cnl_Deltasounds like have to reconfigure grub03:36
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Cnl_Deltawhat does sudo fdisk -l say03:37
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markchas anyone tried compiling a real-time kernel ?03:37
madmikehey is there much diffrece between 32bit and 64bit kubuntu?03:38
ubuntuDont know03:38
biovorethe only difference is that closesource stuff sometimes has issues..03:38
biovoreon 64bit03:38
OptimusRexdo I mount with ntfs or any other file system?03:38
madmikehmmm that shoulden't bother me much03:39
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madmikei got a amd 64 box on it's way and just curious03:39
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Cnl_Deltasudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst03:40
Jucatokdesu03:40
madmikeand no way in hell I'm stickin windows on it03:40
Cnl_Deltacopy paste that in a terminal and see if your windows is listed03:40
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MenaHey Jucato :)03:42
Jucatohi Mena03:42
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soulrider_hey Jucato03:45
Jucatohi soulrider_03:45
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apikoroscan anyone recommend a nice, windowed, kde-friendly irc client that doesn't suck? i really hate konversation.. it's intrusive, too-cute, i don't know -- somehow painfully annoying for reasons i can't quite put a finger on.03:48
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biovoreapikoros: kvirc03:49
apikoroshmm. yes, i just saw it in my apt-cache. do you recommend kvirc or kvirc2?03:49
BluesKajheh, he won't like kvirc in that case03:50
biovorekvirc package is kvirc303:50
biovoreI running kvirc3 here03:50
soulriderxchat ? its gtk though03:50
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apikorosi'm looking at screenshots and it looks worse than kvirc, it looks bloated03:51
rayluit = xchat?03:51
apikoroserr sorry, i meant kvirc looks worse than conversation03:51
biovorekvirc is very big03:51
apikorosi used xchat before and it was okay but i just don't like running gtk apps03:51
rayluyeah, the ss i saw was pretty ugly too03:51
biovorebut has a completely cusomizable interface03:51
biovoreand scripting languages..03:52
raylukopete and gaim come with irc support03:52
apikorosbut by now i'm coming across as a completely prissy app whiner :)03:52
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Jucato(yep)03:52
rayluthat's a good thing...except the prissy part03:52
SubOnehow do i `ls 2007-05-06/*.jpg` it is saying "ls: 2007-05-06/*.jpg: No such file or directory"03:52
apikoroswell, this is not my main machine anyways -- i'll just download anything remotely ircish and report back03:53
rayluls 2007-05-06 | grep *.jpg03:53
SubOnety03:53
JucatoSubOne: ls 2007-05-06/ *.jpg03:53
SubOneboth acceptable ty03:53
Jucato(space in between)03:53
rayluo.0? that works too?03:53
BluesKajwell you can always use the terminal irssi03:53
apikorosfind 2007-05-06 -iname "*.jpg"03:53
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SubOneJucato: that does not work03:54
SubOneraylu: is that case insensitive?03:54
rayludon't think so03:54
JucatoSubOne: hm.. ok...03:54
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SubOneis there a way to make it?03:54
raylui dont know too much about grep; try man-ing it03:54
apikorosgrep -i03:54
apikorosfor case insensitive, iirc03:54
rayluoh, is that what -i was...03:54
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SubOneit does nto appear to be working i get no results03:55
apikorosyeah. otherwise it's case sensitive. but the find command i typed earlier is case insensitive and will search subdirectories03:55
Tired_I'm confused...I installed SwiftFox, which is apparently a differently optimized Firefox, and when I opened it, it had all my Firefox settings and extensions.....what other apps have unfettered access to the data from other apps on my Kubuntu box?03:55
raylutry it without the *03:55
SubOneer, wait i need to ditch the *03:55
JucatoSubOne: hm... you know, ls folder/*.foo actually works here03:55
bobstroTired_:  well, any that you run.03:55
SubOnenow how can i do it making sure it is only on the end?03:55
rayluTired_...all of them...03:55
apikorosTired_: pretty much all of them03:55
bobstroTired_:  they run with your permissions (generally).03:55
bobstroTired_:  it's not like those are secured settings.03:56
rayluSubOne, no idea again, sorry :P03:56
Tired_Is there a setting I can set so programs will mind their own stuff unless I tell them otherwise?03:56
rayluthey all do mind their own stuff...03:56
apikorosTired_: that's kind of the norm, but swiftfox is an exception03:56
bobstroTired_:  well, you could secure (e.g. encrypt) is usppose.03:56
rayluswiftfox being an exception for an obvious reason03:56
apikorosTired_: it's an exception in many respects, actually -- it's not even open source, iirc03:56
Tired_um, what's the obvious reason?03:56
rayluyou could also run firefox as a different user that owns the config files and disallow read access for g and o03:56
bobstroTired_:  swiftfox is supposed to use your previous settings as convenience.03:57
rayluswiftfox is really just an addon to firefox03:57
rayluit needs access to the configs there03:57
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Tired_oh, I see...that explains it03:57
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apikorosTired_: generally things you get from the official repositories will play nice and never pollute the settings of other programs unless you tell them to03:57
apikorosbut swiftfox is not official...it's not really an addon to firefox, it's just a custom build actually03:57
bobstroTired_:  do understand that apps you run do so with your permissions. that's why you don't want to be root.03:57
rayluif its security you're worried about, the solution is to not download...malware03:57
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Tired_I was just worried there...I wouldn't want KMail to start mailing out my Konversation passwords or anything equally foolish03:58
rayluanything that makes it onto your box can potentially screw your computer up, i guess03:58
bobstroTired_:  or you might keep different "personae" in the form of accounts.03:58
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bobstroTired_:  they may all use the same wallet type functionality.03:58
bobstroraylu:  at least with linux it's limited to what your account can do.03:58
Tired_But the wallet always asks me if it's cool first, which is good03:58
bobstroTired_:  yeah, that's the idea. unfortunately, a lot of competing ways of doing things.03:59
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Tired_true...it's all good...I was just freaking out there, but now I understand  :)03:59
Coldwar55Why doesn't the restricted manager work in Kubuntu?03:59
Tired_(it's not any faster, anyways)03:59
apikorosTired_: but really, if you believe in free and open source software, you shouldn't use it.03:59
apikoros"Binaries provided by getswiftfox.com are not licensed MPL and therefore are not freely distributable. The license to use Swiftfox extends to the user that downloads Swiftfox from this web site. No one may repackage or redistribute Swiftfox binaries in any form without prior permission."04:00
apikoroshttp://getswiftfox.com/source.htm04:00
JucatoColdwar55: because it's hardcoded to work only on Ubuntu/GNOME apps04:00
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Tired_I believe in them like I believe the earth is round, but I'm not stuck to one ideology.04:00
Coldwar55:/04:00
rayluso you're open to the idea that earth is flat and floating on a turtle?04:00
Tired_But I'm also not going to start a flamewar...04:00
Coldwar55There goes me using Kubuntu since I can't get my ATI drivers working -_-04:01
apikorosTired_: neither am I -- i administer a Windows 2003 network at work. you're free to use whatever you want without being hassled about it.04:01
Tired_:)04:01
JucatoColdwar55: um... restricted-manager is just a front end to what you can manually install/do on Ubuntu04:01
Coldwar55Yeah I followed the edgy directions too04:01
Tired_I just get nervous when people start talking ideologies...sometimes it gets ugly04:01
Coldwar55and it gives me problems04:01
bobstrosometimes?04:01
rayluclearly, anyone who hasn't realized the existence of the giant turtle is retarded, Tired_04:02
Tired_or just blinded by His Noodliness04:02
apikorosi just pointed it out because to get to that page you need to click on the tiny text on the swiftfox page -- most people just naturally assume it's free.04:02
rayluoh. well, FSM is a universally accepted truth too04:02
osirisdoes anyone here use ktorrents webgui plugin ?04:02
apikorososiris: no, what is it?04:03
apikorosa web interface for ktorrent?04:03
Coldwar55So I have no clue how else to install the drivers04:03
osirisits a plugin to control ktorrent from the web04:03
biovoreno I use torrentflux here..04:03
apikorosbiovore: me too :)04:03
bobstrojust found torrentflux myself. good stuff.04:03
osirisi set the username and password, but cant seem to log into it04:03
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raylui don't see the purpose of a web interface04:04
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biovoretorrents can be remote on another box.. like in a datacenter\04:04
Tired_handy when you wanna control your torrents at home on lunch break at school04:05
apikorosyes.04:05
bobstroand they run when you leave with your laptop04:05
raylui see...04:05
osirisrelavence of the feature aside, i want to use it04:06
apikorososiris: well, let me install it and get back to you. i'm curious now.04:06
Tired_is there a VNC server that uses a standard browser for a client (in Kubuntu, of course)?04:06
osirisroger that04:06
osirisi like ktorrent, cause it supporst ip block lists, and bandwidth scheduling04:07
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rayluapikoros, it comes with kubuntu (or it came with edgy, at leasT)04:07
rayluTired_, is there a vnc server that windows users can access?04:08
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Coldwar55-_- Why can I never run gedit or oowriter as root?04:08
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Coldwar55Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:08
Coldwar55Xlib: No protocol specified04:08
Coldwar55Is what I get04:08
apikorososiris: it works fine for me...04:08
rayluColdwar55, i'm assuming you're using kdesu and not sudo?04:08
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apikoroswhat path did you specify for php?04:08
Tired_raylu -> sure, i didn't know there was any that couldn't04:08
JucatoColdwar55: unless you installed Ubuntu/GNOME, then gedit isn't installed on Kubuntu04:08
Coldwar55I installed04:08
Coldwar55it manually04:08
crimsunraylu: there's one that is distributed with Ubuntu.  See System> Preferences> Remote Desktop04:08
JucatoColdwar55: "gksudo gedit"04:08
rayluTired_, o.0? I haven't used any at all. what are you using at all?04:09
rayluoh? that works with window's rd client?04:09
apikorososiris, FWIW, i set the path to the php binary to "/usr/bin/php5-cgi"04:09
crimsunraylu: there are win32 tightvnc clients that can connect to it.04:09
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apikorosUltraVNC is a great client for win32, btw.04:09
osirisyou are supposed to set it to php04:09
apikorosand GPL iirc.04:09
osirisfrom installing php-cli04:10
Coldwar55Can't install gksudo04:10
naliothjrib: pull your own weight.04:10
apikorososiris, i dunno, i just looked for some php binary in my bin directory and saw that one. but i'm telling you, it works.04:10
SubOnehow can i delimit a for loop by newlines only rather than whitespace, because it is breaking up my filenames04:10
Menahow to install compiz themes04:10
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Tired_UltraVNC04:11
Tired_what apikoros said  :)04:11
apikorosmena, download emerald theme manager04:11
Menaapikoros, ohh so i have to use emerlad04:11
apikorosmena, yeah -- i assume you're talking about beryl.04:11
Tired_but it would be very cool if I could use Firefox and Flash to do it.......04:11
Tired_*hint nudge*04:12
rayluthat's asking a lot of flash04:12
apikorososiris, any luck?04:12
Coldwar55So how am I supposed to access my xorg.conf file if I can't run it as root?04:12
Menaapikoros, yes but i use compiz and fron berul channel one told me to remove emerlad04:12
SubOneColdwar55: sudo04:12
rayluColdwar55, sudo nano or sudo vim04:12
Menafrom * beryl*04:12
jribColdwar55: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:12
raylu(in a console)04:12
osirisapikoros, i make a new user for it and it worked04:12
SubOnehow can i delimit a for loop by newlines only rather than whitespace, because it is breaking up my filenames04:12
apikorososiris, probably you just mistyped the l/p the first time around?04:12
apikorosmena, if you're using beryl with ubuntu, you need the emerald theme manager.04:13
osirisno way04:13
osirisof that, i AM sure04:13
rayluSubOne, quotes?04:13
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apikorososiris, did you change the path to php?04:13
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Menaapikoros, i am using kubuntu04:13
osirisyes.  /usr/bin/php04:13
apikorosMena:  errrrr right, i meant kubuntu.04:13
Menaapikoros, ok04:13
SubOneraylu: how do i manage to get quotes in there?04:14
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SubOneraylu: it is the result of an ls04:14
rayluSubOne, a bash script, right?04:14
SubOneraylu: yea04:14
apikorosSubOne: what are you trying to do, exactly?04:14
raylui'm not to experienced in that department, but I would imagine you use ""s around filenames or "\ " instead of " "04:14
raylu*too04:15
SubOnefor img in `ls "$imgdir" | grep -i .jpg`04:15
SubOnebut it seperates a filename if there is a space04:15
osirisapikoros, found the bug04:15
apikorososiris: what is it?04:15
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osirisit seems it doesnt like my password04:15
apikorosSubOne: what are you _actually_ trying to do?04:15
osiristhe password contained capitols, numbers, and symboly04:15
SubOneapikoros: get a list of all of the jpg files in all of the directories and imagemagick resize them04:16
apikorososiris, heh, it took "test123" without complaining ;)04:16
SubOne!pastebin04:16
jribSubOne: for img in $imgdir/*.jpg; do imagemagick_stuff "$img"; done    does that work?04:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:16
apikorosokay so find . -iname "*.jpg" -exec convert (some parameters) \;04:17
biovorefor i in *.jpg; do imagemagick $i --resize <res> -o thumb-$i; done  (or something close to that)04:17
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apikorosyou don't need a for loop, just use find! the oft-misunderstood unix command04:17
SubOneoh it can work with files like that? lemme try it04:17
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jribapikoros: funny, I always say  I don't need find, just glob :)04:17
biovoreup find and xargs are other altrnitives04:18
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apikorosyeah04:18
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apikorosSubOne: when you use -exec, "{}" (without the quotes) stands for the filename, and you need to end with a \;04:18
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Tired_is there a -buntu without any desktop enviroment by default?04:18
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biovoreDam.. there just been a hugh tornado in KS04:19
apikorosso for example: find . -iname "*.txt" -exec rm -i {} \;04:19
bobstroTired_:  server?04:19
Tired_X, but no DE04:19
SubOneapikoros: I'm sorry, i didnt really understand that04:19
apikorosTired_: yes, server. then just install x.04:19
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Tired_ah, cool...04:19
SubOne-exec, "{}"               what is this04:20
apikorosSubOne: give me the syntax for convert (or whatever imagemagick app) to do the thing you want and i'll show you how to combine it with find04:20
apikoros-exec tells find to execute the following command for each item it finds04:20
Tired_somehow I doubt there'll ever be enough interest for EvilWMBuntu04:20
apikorosand it changes {} to the actual findname.04:20
SubOneapikoros: lemme post my script so fart04:20
bobstroTired_:  that... might be a challenge04:20
SubOne!pastebin04:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:20
Coldwar55Hmm I tried using Edgie's directions and still can't get ATI drivers to work under Fiesty04:20
apikorosheh, a freudian emission there.04:21
SubOneapikoros: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19569/04:21
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SubOneapikoros: some is commented out because i just wanted to view the output and count the files first04:22
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apikorosokay, suppose you have an image directory called images/ with a bunch of subdirs with jpegs in them, you can do this:04:23
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bobstroSubOne:  isn't img including the dir?04:23
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SubOneSubOne: it wasnt before because it was `ls "$imgdir" | grep -i .jpg` but now it may be because i dont know this new code04:24
SubOnebobstro: ^^^04:24
Mena_apikoros, i cant use emerald04:24
Mena_apikoros, while using compiz04:24
SubOneapikoros: I only want 1 directory in04:24
Coldwar55Are there any decent ATI howtos specifically for Kubuntu?04:25
SubOneso i want '2006-04-19/100_0001_00.jpg' but not  '2006-04-19/other_dir/100_0001_00.jpg'04:25
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apikorosSubOne: okay, hold on04:26
apikorosSubOne: i'm not a shell wizard, so it takes me a minute to compose the command :)04:26
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Kr4t05Hrm...04:26
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bobstroSubOne:  find has a maxdepth parm04:27
Kr4t05IIRC, using Beryl on an Nvidia card with the latest drivers should "Just Work", correct?04:27
OptimusRexno root file system is defined. Does anyone know how to solve this when preparing partitions?04:28
bobstroOptimusRex:  are you installing over an old drive?04:28
bobstroOptimusRex:  also, are you installing edgy?04:28
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superm1hey would anyone with a kubuntu disk or ISO be able to tell me what /isolinux/isolinux.cfg's GFXBOOT-BACKGROUND variable has set04:29
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SubOnebobstro: i didnt even know i was using 'find'04:29
bobstroSubOne:  i'm just mentioning that it does, so should work for what you want.04:29
Tired_Beryl did not 'just work' for me.04:29
Tired_I had to follow some simple instructions from the forum, which did 'just work'04:29
OptimusRexi'm installing kubuntu 7.04 on a drive that has windows xp on it as well04:30
bobstroSubOne:  i'd put some echo statements in that script to verify values of img, imgdir are as you expect.04:30
bobstroOptimusRex:  do you have an empty partition to install into?04:30
SubOnebobstro: there are echos04:30
Kr4t05Tired_: Ah, okay.04:30
bobstroSubOne:  wups, ok are they what you expect?04:30
bobstroSubOne:  what part's not working?04:30
Tired_I forget where they were, but I found them in a simple search04:30
Tired_it was a short script they had in the body of the post04:31
SubOnebobstro: it was working fine the way i had it before, except that it was breaking my filenames at spaces in the filename04:31
OptimusRexyes I have free space that I am trying to partition with the live disk. I have set some space as /dev/sda3 for the swap and /dev/sda1 as ext3 and this is the larger one04:32
OptimusRexthe larger one is also set with an x for formatting04:32
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SubOnebobstro: and then he had me change it to 'for img in $imgdir/*.jpg' and now i get the directory in the string an extra time and i get '*.jpg' returned too04:33
bobstroSubOne:  sorry, but it's breaking them on the convert lines (when not commented) or where?04:34
bobstroSubOne:  oh wait04:34
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bobstroSubOne:  how about for img in "$imgdir/*.jpg" ?04:34
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bobstroSubOne:  maybe same with imgdir too04:35
link109<-- (Newbie)  How do I enable the greyed out items in the Adept installer?04:35
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SubOnebobstro: it just returns a bunch of '*.jpg'04:37
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SubOneno actuall jpegs04:37
SubOnelink109: such as?04:38
bobstroSubOne:  double quotes (") will allow expansion, single quotes (') won't.04:38
SubOnebobstro: i didnt mean those as literal04:38
SubOnesome of the results i am getting:04:39
SubOne2006-12-23/2006-12-23//*.jpg04:39
SubOne2006-12-24/2006-12-24//*.jpg04:39
SubOne2007-05-04/2007-05-04//*.jpg04:39
SubOne2007-05-06/2007-05-06//*.jpg04:39
bobstroSubOne:  with the version of the script on pastebin?04:39
SubOneoops that was meant to be on one line04:39
SubOneno, with for img in "$imgdir/*.jpg"04:39
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lespeawow quiet in here04:45
Kr4t05What perms would restrict all write access regardless of user?04:45
SubOneim waiting for someone that knows some shell scripting to answer me:p04:45
Kr4t05555?04:45
SubOneKr4t05: 4 = r, 2 = w, 1 = x04:46
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SubOneso yes04:46
apikorosi think ksirc is my new client.04:47
ubuntuomfg04:47
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Kr4t05SubOne: Thanks04:47
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OptimusRexbobstro: I'm trying to format /dev/sda1 and set it as the root file system04:49
lespeasub what was your ?04:49
bobstroSubOne:  where did you leave off?04:49
SubOnebobstro: not getting anywhere lol04:50
bobstroSubOne:  still at the version you pastebin'ed?04:50
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lespeakr4t did you want read only for everybody or?04:50
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lespeaOptimus are you using the live cd/04:50
SubOnelespea: I am trying to iterate through every image in every directory 1 deep, even if there are strings in the filenames/dirs04:50
hitmanWillyKr4t05: the perm is just an octal rep of a binary number expressed as r,w,x for root,owner,users so 111 111 111 translates to 777, etc.04:50
SubOnebobstro: with minor changes you suggested on the one line04:51
lespeawhat do you mean strings?04:51
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SubOnelespea: as in i need the filenames to pass to imagemagick04:51
hitmanWillyKr4t05: if you ever need to figure that one out again :)04:51
Kr4t05hitmanWilly: Yeah, thanks. :)04:51
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SubOnethis seems like it should be easy, someone here should know this lol04:52
lespeafind . -type f -maxdepth=2 -iregex ".*{jpe?g|png|gif|bmp|[etc] )$"04:52
osirispraises BE~!  no more join/part messages~!04:52
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Kr4t05Hrm... Beryl works now... but emerald doesn't...04:53
lespeathen if you want to use imagemagick I would use -print0 and pipe that to xargs with the arg -0 (that's a zero) followed by your command04:53
SubOnelespea: invalid predicate -maxdepth=204:53
JucatoSubOne: you can try at #bash for more info04:53
Jucato(or is it ##bash ?)04:53
lespeatry -maxdepth 204:53
SubOneJucato: ty04:53
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lespeasorry04:54
SubOnefind: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments.04:54
hitmanWillyKr4t05: nvidia card?04:54
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Kr4t05hitmanWilly: Yeah, I just figured it out, though.04:54
hitmanWillyargb-glx visuals, right?04:55
SubOnefind . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex ".*{jpe?g|png|gif|bmp)$"04:55
SubOnereturns no results04:55
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lespeayeah I just tried it... hold on i'm proofing it :/04:55
SubOneshouldnt it be a curly close at the end for one thing04:55
lespeafor what?04:56
SubOne{jpe?g|png|gif|bmp)04:56
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lespeadon't believe so, but you can try04:56
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SubOnefind . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex "*" returns nothing04:57
lespeai got it to return stuff04:58
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lespeait'd have to be .*04:58
lespeak04:58
SubOneok that works04:58
lespeagot the string... have to friggen escape everything :( ...04:58
lespeafind . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex ".+\(jpe?g\|bmp\|png\|gif\)$"04:59
SubOnefind . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex ".*[jpg] "                 works04:59
lespeawell not because of why you think04:59
SubOneoh04:59
lespeawhen you use brackets04:59
SubOneoh it means one of the letters04:59
lespeathen it matches if anything in the brackets is pressent04:59
lespeaso basically... if everything at the end ends in either a j,p, or g04:59
lespeayeah05:00
tabacohow in the damn i can instal sofware in ubuntu?05:00
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lespeatab: "start button" - add/remove programs05:00
lespeadid you try my new string?05:00
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tabacobut sofware downloaded05:00
lespea?05:00
SubOneok so how do i pump that into an imagemagick call?05:00
lespeaokay, now go something like this05:00
hitmanWillytabaco: is it source?05:00
tabaco.dev05:01
lespeafind Wallpapers/ -type f -iregex ".+\(jpe?g\|bmp\|png\|gif\)$" -print0 | xargs -0 -I{} imagemagick (params) {}05:01
hitmanWillytabaco: you mean .deb?05:01
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tabacoyes that05:01
SubOnewoah05:01
lespeayou want to use print0 so that it uses nulls and not spaces to seperate everything -- otherwise stuff gets really messed up05:01
lespeawork?05:02
hitmanWillytabaco: sudo dpkg -i <package_name.deb>05:02
tabacoi get error message05:02
hitmanWillytabaco: which is?05:02
SubOnelespea: can you explain that to me so i can put in my parameters?05:02
tabacodependants i think05:03
stealth47hi there.. can i ask what specific program i can use to play my audio cd?05:03
stealth47hi there.. can i ask what specific program i can use to play my audio cd?05:03
lespeasure05:03
SubOnelespea: what i need is something like #convert -resize 640 "$imgdir$img" -quality 80 small/medium_"$img"05:03
osiriskscd05:03
lespeayou get all the find stuff right?05:03
osirisstealth47, kscd05:03
SubOnelespea: the find finds yes05:03
lespeaoh okay05:03
stealth47tnx osiris05:03
hitmanWillytabaco: you probably need to install the dependencies then05:03
osirisstealth47, you're welcome05:03
lespeawell whereever you want the filename just put the brackets "{}" so it'd be something like this05:03
tabacobut that must be are downloaded to?05:04
hitmanWillytabaco: usually you can use apt to get them if they're common05:04
lespea #convert -resize 640 {} -quality 80 {}.small.jpg (or something -- if you want to really mess with the file name and strip stuff out you can't one-line it)05:04
tabacoim need a ftp server05:04
tabacoin windows is easy but i don t want windows05:05
lespeadoes that make sense?05:05
hitmanWillytabaco: there's a few of those in the repos, makes installation easier05:05
SubOnelespea: yeah i need to direct the output based on filename, butto a directory i want05:05
Jucato!ftpd | tabaco05:05
ubotutabaco: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP05:05
lespeayou're probably going to have to make a shell script then05:05
SubOnelespea: so like ./small{}05:05
SubOnewill that work?05:06
SubOnelespea: i was already makign a shell script lol05:06
lespeayeah... well.. `./small/{}`05:06
lespeaoh lol05:06
Kr4t05Ok, one last pet-peeve and my Kubuntu box will be teh sexeh.05:06
tabacosomething of this works in graphical enviroment<'05:06
SubOnelespea: but it wasnt working out05:06
Kr4t05My scroll-wheel doesn't work. :(05:06
lespeawhat is it doing?05:06
SubOnelespea: lemme try this05:06
lespeak05:06
SubOnecan i do something like echo {}05:07
osirisKr4t05, you can probably fix that in xorg.conf05:07
lespeayeah05:07
lespeaxarg will execute any command that it can find (in your path)05:07
Admiral_ChicagoKr4t05: hardware problem?05:08
hitmanWillytabaco: some of them undoubtedly have a gui, try them out till you find one you like05:08
Kr4t05Admiral_Chicago: I don't think, it works in WinXP05:08
Admiral_ChicagoKr4t05: how many buttons05:08
osirisKr4t05, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:08
Kr4t05Admiral_Chicago: Just 3 counting middle click.05:08
apikorosi think i'm sticking with konversation :/05:08
Kr4t05osiris: There05:08
lespeaapi -- :D05:08
Admiral_ChicagoKr4t05: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:08
SubOnelespea: ok how do i strip the path from the file05:09
Admiral_Chicagodid that work?05:09
Admiral_Chicagodoes*05:09
Kr4t05Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" -- That's set05:09
osiristry 6 705:09
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Kr4t05Admiral_Chicago: I'm not scrapping my entire Xorg for my mouse. :P05:09
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tabacowhy kubuntu put me on black screen when i switch user?05:09
osirishttp://rafb.net/p/dskuOq91.nln.html05:09
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lespeawell... that's a lot more trickey lol05:09
osirisKr4t05, look at taht link05:09
lespeahold on i haven't done that in a bit let me test something05:10
Admiral_ChicagoKr4t05: open it in an editor?05:10
tabaco <lespea>  thanks for the hint05:10
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osirismight try 6 7 instead.  make sure to restart X between attempts05:10
Kr4t05osiris: Thanks.05:10
Kr4t05BRB05:10
osirisyep05:11
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Kr4t05osiris: Success.05:11
Kr4t05osiris: Thanks again.05:11
osirisno prob05:11
Kr4t05The world is now a happy place filled with rainbows and kittens. :)05:12
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SubOnelespea: see i was using a much simpler technique, but the `for` breaks it by whitespace which includes spaces in directories/filenames05:12
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lespeayeah....05:12
lespeathat's the real bitch about it lol05:12
lespeaerr sorry bout swearing :o05:12
SubOnelespea: and I must say i only have a small amount of shell scripting from school05:13
lespeaoooh i have an idea hold on05:13
SubOnelespea: all i want to do is resize these full size images and save them to a website but there are over a thousand05:13
bobstroSubOne:  still no luck?05:14
SubOnebobstro: lespea seems to know his stuff, but we haven't got it yet05:14
Admiral_ChicagoSubOne: you looking for a program / script to resize for you?05:14
lespeawell you could just do the resize and rename then with a prefix like (in xargs) THUMBS_{}05:14
lespeaand then have another script that moves all of the THUMBS_* to a different directory05:14
lespeafor now at least05:14
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SubOnelespea: what do you mean05:15
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hitmanWillylespea: why not do that then itereate through and remove the prefix?05:15
SubOnei need to resize them into two sizes, but they are all in many directories, and then i need to put them in a specified directory for upload to a web server05:16
SubOneand probably output the new filenames in another file in some format i havent decided yet for storing the names in the database05:16
lespeathe trouble is that you need to strip off hte directory stuff before you can put then into a folder or else you'll just have errors for trying to moving into non-existand directories05:17
stealth47osiris: how can i install games on My Ubuntu Feisty 7.04? do i need to edit my sources.list?05:17
stealth47osiris: how can i install games on My Ubuntu Feisty 7.04? do i need to edit my sources.list?05:17
hitmanWillySubOne: that last parts easy once thy're moved05:17
SubOnehitmanWilly: says the guy that's not helping :p05:17
osirisstealth47, if you double post another question like that, im not gonna answer05:17
osirishave some courtesy05:17
stealth47am sory05:18
bobstroSubOne:  this works for me -- for NAME in "$(find . -name \*jpg)"; do echo "The name is $NAME"; done05:18
osirisand yes.  edit your sources list05:18
Jucato!games | stealth4705:18
ubotustealth47: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:18
hitmanWillySubOne: lespea seemed to be doing quite well at helping05:18
bobstroSubOne:  is it still the initial name that's causing problems?05:18
stealth47tnx05:18
SubOnehitmanWilly: i was joking05:18
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: :) beat me to it05:18
hitmanWillyi know, so was i :)05:18
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SubOnebobstro: well he got me all the filenames but still not in a form that i can output to imagemagick for output05:19
lespeahmm well my sed script is having some odd errors... still trying lol05:19
SubOnei can input them just not output them where i want them05:19
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lespeasub i'll meet you over in #bash05:20
SubOnek05:20
bobstroSubOne:  for NAME in "$(find . -name \*jpg)"; do echo "The name is $NAME"; done05:20
bobstroif you're trying to strip leading dots and such05:20
bobstroer. wup s05:21
bobstroSubOne: for NAME in "$(find . -name \*jpg)"; do echo "The name is $NAME" | sed -e "s/.\///g"; done05:21
SubOnebobstro: that returns no results lol, im in #bash if you have anything further05:22
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bobstroSubOne:  returns just the file name (no dir) for me.05:22
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tabacowzdftpd i found this one but im still having problems who can helpme?05:23
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tabacosomebody can helpme in the install of the soft05:25
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tabacoplease?05:25
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syntax-breakertabaco: what linux dist. did you used?05:30
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tabacokubuntu05:31
tabacoits a tar file05:32
tabacowzdftpd.tar.gz05:33
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tabacoin kubuntu machine05:33
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tabacohow install de damn soft05:33
SubOnetabaco: watch your mouth05:34
SubOnetabaco: why do you need an ftpd05:34
tabaconeed the ftp in the job05:35
Jucato!patience | tabaco05:35
ubotutabaco: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:35
tabacoim doing but when i do the examples i get error mesages in dont understand where is the problem05:36
pheaverhey, anyone want a chance to convert a poor gentoo user back to ubuntu?05:36
tabacoand you are right thanks for the advise05:36
SubOne!pastebin | tabaco05:37
ubotutabaco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:37
tabacook sorry people05:38
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tabacoby the way i dont speak english i doing my best05:39
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syntax-breakerhey tabako: did u have Kubuntu 7.04?05:41
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tabacommmm05:41
tabacogod question05:41
tabacolet me see05:41
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tabacoyes 7.04 i38605:42
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DruntarHello folks05:43
syntax-breakertabaco: actually, i'am using Ubuntu Feisty 7.04, but i also want to use Kubuntu.. so i've installed Kubuntu Desktop in order for me to try05:43
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SubOneHello Druntar05:44
DruntarI hate to be bothering everyone about this again but maybe someone can help me.05:44
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DruntarMy mouse keeps cutting out on me. Last night cWolfe had me try changing my xorg.conf file to use the evdev driver but it didn't help.05:45
tabaco <syntax-breaker> jesus men you are talk in chinese for me05:45
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DruntarI'm using a logitech g5 laser mouse05:45
i0ni'm using it too :)05:46
sub16hi all05:46
Druntarperiodically it will just stop working05:46
i0nhmm05:46
Druntarif I move it extremely slow and cut the dpi down to 400 it lasts longer05:46
sub16need some help im looking for a remote desktop so i can remote to my win 2003 server mich ant iders05:46
sub16iders05:46
Druntarbut will eventually stop working05:47
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i0nhmm. dunno=\05:47
hitmanWillyDruntar: same prob, huh...05:48
sub16helooo05:48
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Druntaryeah was hoping someone might be on who could help me05:48
wolferineI am having issues with concurrent sounds, if I listen to music then play a movie (this is just an example), sometimes my music wont play when I start it again, anything I can do to troubleshoot sound issues?05:48
sub16dos any one of a good remote desktop foe kubuntu so i can conn to my win 2003 server mich05:49
DruntarI'm trying to update my vid drivers too but it's not working right05:49
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hitmanWillyDruntar: that sounds like a possible kernel issue...05:49
rayluwolferine, try killall artsd in between switching05:49
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Druntaryeah you were the one who said that last night weren't you?05:49
wolferineraylu, is that a running process?05:50
hitmanWillyDruntar: nah, iwas the one who said the buffer wasn't emptying properly05:50
wolferineah05:50
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wolferineit is05:50
Druntaroh lol.05:50
rayluwolferine, er...yes05:51
DruntarSorry, so many people tried to help last night I can't keep track of them all.05:51
rayluoh, you answered it yourself =\05:51
hitmanWillyDruntar: have you run a memtest lately?05:51
sudoman./join #cuh05:52
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Druntarno05:52
Druntardidn't know I was supposed to05:52
DruntarI'm completely new to linux05:52
DruntarI'm so wet behind the ears it's ridiculous05:52
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hitmanWillyDruntar: its one of the options in grub, tests your ram to make sure its still working05:53
wolferineraylu, why is sound on linux so bad anyways?05:53
redfive_any good guides to compiling the kernel for kubuntu 7.04?05:53
Druntarno I haven't run one but it should be05:53
Druntarit's less then 3 months old05:53
osiriswolferine, its not with a soundblaster05:53
redfive_ot is it even nessary on amd6405:53
DruntarI'll try that in a second05:53
wolferineosiris, i dont beleive you :)05:53
Druntarright now trying to figure out why I can't install this driver I downloaded for my video05:54
rayluwolferine, it's fine for me...05:54
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Druntarsh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run ok that's teh command the nvidia site says to use to install the package05:55
wolferinenope, that killall did nothing05:55
Druntarbut when I run it I get sh: cant open (insert package name here)05:56
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Druntaryes I've tried sudo05:56
Druntarstill won't install05:56
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redfive_Druntar: Druntaryou have to have X stoped05:56
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Druntar.....ok I don't know how to do that05:56
redfive_well, thers some steps05:57
redfive_you using KDFE?05:57
redfive_KDE?05:57
DruntarKubuntu feisty05:57
redfive_k05:57
redfive_i can tell you all the steps if you want05:57
Druntarthat'd be great05:57
Druntarmight want to whisper them though to not get in other peoples way05:58
tabacono please i want hear too05:58
Druntarok05:58
Druntarlead the way redfive05:58
Supaplexwhat blogging software can I use that'll publish static content to my website?  I was hoping for a template, or using server side includes.05:58
redfive_hit CTRL+F1 to bring up a different term, log in as root then do /ets/init.d/kdm stop05:59
redfive_at that point X will be stoped05:59
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rayluredfive, Ctrl+Alt+F1, I believe05:59
redfive_then go inthe dir with the nvidia package05:59
redfive_yes05:59
rayluCtrl+F# from a tty05:59
redfive_CTRL+ALT+F105:59
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redfive_then, sh NVIDIA(whatever your package name is)06:00
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redfive_yes to everything in that06:00
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redfive_then do /etc/init.d/kdm start and you should see the nvidia logo06:01
redfive_rebott to make sure everything works06:01
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rayluyou could also just use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart X06:01
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redfive_well, you need X to be stopped to install06:01
rayluoh. install. heh06:01
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souzaboa noite06:02
rayluhuh?06:02
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Druntarok I'm an idiot06:03
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Druntarhit ctrl alt f1 before getting all the steps06:03
Druntarsorry06:03
redfive_ya06:03
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redfive_you can always get back to X when its stopped by hitting CTRL+ALT+F706:03
Druntarok but basically do that log in as root then installing it06:04
redfive_or whrn its started i mean06:04
Druntaroh thx for the tip06:04
redfive_sure06:04
wolferinewhen I use Kemdiafactroy, and it loads K3B, I get the following error (in a nutshell): "Mp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found", could this be related to my audio issues, or is this maybe an issue with in K3B directly?06:04
Druntarhow do I stop x while in there again?06:04
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redfive_use automatrix2 to get all media stuff, mp3 codecs06:05
tabacohow install a soft downloaded can you helpme?06:05
redfive_Druntar: /etc/init.d/kdm stop06:05
wolferineredfive, me?06:05
Druntarok thank you06:05
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redfive_and then /etc/init.d/kdm start, to start it06:05
Druntarsudo that right?06:05
redfive_you dont need to , you should be logged in as root06:05
Druntarlol yeah that's right lol06:06
redfive_well, do this befor starting,06:06
redfive_open a terminal and do sudo passwd, and set the password to what you use to lig into kde06:06
Druntarit's already done that way06:06
redfive_good06:06
Druntarkde does that on install06:06
DruntarI remember reading that somwhere06:06
Druntar....only 4th day in linux06:06
redfive_well, not tenically06:07
redfive_when you change your user password the root stays the same06:07
Druntarahhh06:07
Druntarnever changed it from initial install06:07
Druntarlol06:07
redfive_not like you should use root, you usualy dont need to06:07
redfive_its best pratice in linux to not, that what threy teach in schools06:08
Druntarlol06:09
Druntarok well here goes06:09
redfive_hehe06:09
redfive_do it in the order i told you06:10
redfive_you should be fine06:10
wolferinewhen I use Kemdiafactroy, and it loads K3B, I get the following error (in a nutshell): "Mp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found", could this be related to my audio issues, or is this maybe an issue with in K3B directly?06:10
redfive_wolferine; did you install an mp3 coedc?06:10
osirisk3b probablyt06:10
osiris!restricted plugins06:11
wolferineredfive, well, I can play mp3s, so I guess that would be a yes06:11
osiris!restricted formats06:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:11
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wolferineredfive, right?06:12
redfive_wolferine; thers lots og huides to install mp3 codec, kist do a google search, i used automatrix but i think it might be for amd6406:12
rayluI thought the issue wasn't his MP3 codec (or lack of)?06:13
wolferineredfive, search for codecs specific to k3b?06:13
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redfive_mp3 in general06:13
wolferineor an mp3 codec in general?06:13
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redfive_dod you install it from adept?06:13
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wolferinewell, how can I play mp3 files with out a codec?06:13
wolferineredfive, install what?06:13
Druntarok redfive_ that didn't work06:13
redfive_whats K3B?06:14
Druntaronce I stopped kde it brought up a little blinking line like a command line but it wouldn't respond to anything06:14
redfive_ya06:14
redfive_you might have to hit CTRL+ALT+F7 then CTRL+ALT+F106:14
redfive_you might have to go back and forth to make sre06:14
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redfive_did you do yes on all the prompts in the install package?06:15
wolferineredfive, its used to burn cds/dvds06:15
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redfive_ah06:16
wolferineits called by kmediaplayer, after I produce my menus06:16
redfive_and K3B wont install?06:17
redfive_or wont burn?06:17
wolferineseems when ppl are logging in (causing audio) to amsn, is pulling my sound to that app, so when I am playing music, just doesnt allow me to start it up again (just one example of my sound issues)06:17
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wolferineredfive, maybe you need to scroll back up and read our convo again06:17
Druntarok06:17
Druntarthat was weird06:17
wolferineanyways, I am out for the nite06:18
redfive_i dont think i was in here for that06:18
wolferinelater06:18
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wolferinei think you were here for our convo :)06:18
wolferinelol06:18
redfive_maby i wasent.... smokie smokie06:19
wolferine:)06:19
Druntarlol I'm lost think I'll jsut go with the ubuntu specific nvidia driver06:19
wolferineDruntar, #ubuntu-effects could probably help06:20
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redfive_well i have got others here to do it06:20
Druntarthey're rude and unhelpful to me at least06:20
Druntarthey're always very demeaning06:20
redfive_?06:20
redfive_we can try again06:20
wolferineDruntar, try the ubuntu guide (google it)06:21
wolferineinstall the latest nvidia drivers06:21
wolferineand you should be up and running in no time06:21
redfive_i have done it this way for a long time06:21
Druntarit's ok06:21
redfive_in redhat06:21
DruntarI'll just use the ubuntu specific driver in adept06:21
redfive_kimped frpm that uo ubuntu a year ago06:21
Druntarit's not biggie06:21
wolferineDruntar, read the guide06:22
Druntarno06:22
redfive_k06:22
wolferineyour new to ubuntu06:22
wolferineit will help you get everything setup06:22
wolferinein detail06:22
DruntarI downloaded and read teh kubuntu guide06:22
wolferineits excellent :)06:22
Druntarit was not very helpful06:22
wolferineDruntar, i said, ubuntu guide06:22
Druntaroh06:22
Druntarmy mistake06:22
wolferineits the top in google06:22
wolferinelists all packages you want/could have06:23
wolferineand explains everything in detail06:23
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Druntarthank you wolf06:24
redfive_or just go at it hack and slash and try and fix it06:24
redfive_google is your friend06:25
DruntarI know but so far I've googled my mouse problem and found no help06:25
redfive_what mouse problem?06:25
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Druntarmouse will cut out sometimes and it takes a reboot to get it going again06:26
Druntarit's a logitech g506:26
redfive_usb?06:26
Druntarif I turn it down to 400 dpi and move it really slow it'll work longer06:26
Druntaryeah06:26
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redfive_what kind of mainboard do you have?06:26
DruntarI've tried using the evdev driver but when I do kubuntu won't even boot06:26
Druntarasus p5nsli06:27
redfive_you could probebly hit CTRL+ALT+Backspace to restart X and it will come up06:27
DruntarI'll try that next time it quits06:28
Druntarit's working right now06:28
Druntarsomeone said last night it may be a kernel issue or the buffer backing up06:28
redfive_try different usb port?06:28
Druntaryup06:28
Druntartried unplugging and replugging in too06:29
Druntarkernel acks unplugg but not replug06:29
redfive_try to find it inn the x config in the System Settings?06:29
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DruntarI believe so06:29
Druntarit's using the 'mouse' driver06:29
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Druntarsomeone last night wanted me to try the 'evdev' driver, but that stopped kubuntu from even booting06:30
rayludid you catch the error X threw?06:30
raylucrap. I'm speaking in those terms now =\06:30
Druntarit doesn't throw one when the mouse stops06:30
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Druntarthe mouse just stops06:31
rayluI thought you said kde didn't start06:31
rayluwhen you tried the evdev driver06:31
Druntaroh no there isn't an error06:31
Druntarit just doesn't boot06:31
rayluyou mean you get a tty instead of the gui?06:31
Druntargoes to a black screen with a little blinking line at the top06:31
Druntarand doesn't respond to any commands06:31
rayluyeah, it probably gave an error at...(one sec)06:31
rayluwhen you see that screen, btw, you can always use ctrl+alt+f106:31
redfive_its ok, i caint get wine working?06:32
DruntarI'm having all kinds of issues06:33
Druntarthe mouse thing. Beryl throws me the white screen of death06:33
redfive_wow06:33
redfive_and i thought i was having a hard time with kubuntu amd6406:34
rayluthe xorg log might be in /sys06:34
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raylui can't remember where it should be, Druntar06:34
Druntaryou're speaking greek to me raylu06:34
redfive_actuallt, automatrix2 fixed alot of it06:34
DruntarI'm getting to the point where I don't know if it's this distro of linux or if I should go running back to windows with my tail between my legs06:35
DruntarI REALLY don't want to do that06:35
raylunevermind...its in /var/log/06:35
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redfive_your using kubuntu? 7.04?06:35
Druntaryeah06:35
redfive_not the beta?06:35
Druntargot it off the site from the download link06:35
Druntartook me 2 days to install it06:35
redfive_try a reinstall06:35
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Druntarcause it would lock my system up06:36
redfive_should only take a half hour06:36
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rayluDruntar, the X error log will be at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. when you see that blinking screen, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, and use nano06:36
redfive_you have intel?06:36
Druntartook me 2 days and the install when it worked took almost 6 hours06:36
Druntarpentium D 3.2 Ghz dual core06:36
Druntar1 gig of ram06:37
Druntar250Gb sata HD06:37
redfive_try that alternate install06:37
DruntarI just built this machine 3 months ago06:37
redfive_different disk06:37
Druntarthat's the one that took06:37
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redfive_the DVD?06:37
Druntarcan't don't have any blank dvds06:37
Druntarcan't afford to buy any either06:37
redfive_dammit jim06:37
Druntarexactly lol06:38
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redfive_get one!06:38
redfive_55 for a lite on dvd-rw drive06:38
DruntarI have a burner06:38
Druntarjust not a blank DVD to burn to06:38
Druntarlol06:38
redfive_anyway, try text based install next time06:38
DruntarI'll try a reinstall shit what do I have to lose? it's not like it's working right now anyway06:39
redfive_steel some from work!06:39
Druntarunemployed right now that's why I can't buy one lol06:39
redfive_heh, im a bad infulence06:39
DruntarI don't know how to do text install06:39
redfive_its cake06:39
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redfive_you have ant experence with linux?06:40
Druntarnope06:40
Druntarthis is my 4th day06:40
redfive_hehe06:40
rayluthat's 3+ days of experience!06:40
Druntaronly know what people in this room have taught me06:40
redfive_good06:40
Druntarfirst two were installing lol06:40
thonychee06:40
Druntarso really only 2 days of using06:40
redfive_just download a debain book06:40
thonygood06:40
Druntarand that's barely06:40
Druntarlol06:40
redfive_go through it06:40
Druntarok brb06:41
redfive_im not kidding06:41
redfive_i have many linux e-books06:41
DruntarI learn from doing not reading I could read a book all day but it won't teach me crap06:41
redfive_i think ubuntu is a brance off debain06:41
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Druntarit's based on debian06:41
Druntarok hopefully back soon06:41
redfive_well, then install install and install again!06:42
redfive_what video card do you have?06:42
syntax-breakercno poh ba administrator dito?06:44
Jucatosyntax-breaker: english only please06:44
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syntax-breakerhello.. i want to install my counter strike condition 0 CD but it doesn't start the installation process.06:49
raylusyntax-breaker, I assume you're wining it?06:50
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syntax-breakeri gues i need to use wine emulator.. ok i'll try06:51
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CUHi - Will you please see if you can load the samsung.com web site properly using fiesty & fiesty's firefox, & tell me your result? Thanks.  It's not displaying properly for me on this fiesty install.06:53
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LinkCanabicoubuntu HI didnt you say your nick would be ar53n?06:54
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syntax-breakerCU:  there's no problem with that web site.. its ok06:56
CUsyntax-breaker: thanks - any idea why I'm seeing a problem - white rectangles blocking significant parts of the display?06:57
LinkCanabicoCU plugins maby06:58
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HKJGN_were do i go to complain about moderators?06:59
khaije1is democracyplayer is the best video aggregator? I don't want to install it w/o thought y'know?06:59
HKJGN_i was just banned for agreeing to follow the rules06:59
khaije1are there any other great ones? for kde especially?06:59
syntax-breakerCU check your firefox version or you should refresh your screen.06:59
CULinkCanabico: about:plugins: shockwave flash, & java (direct from sun download, iirc) - any ideas what might be the problem?06:59
JucatoHKJGN_: moderators of the IRC channels or the ubuntuforums?07:00
cWolfeheh HKJGN_  my freind got me banned from #ubuntu07:00
HKJGN_Jucato: i was banned on ubuntu-offtopic cause i agreed to drop a subject07:00
JucatoHKJGN_: #ubuntu-ops then07:00
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Jucato(most bans also just last 24 hours)07:01
HKJGN_the moderator was pissing vinegar after i got banned for saying Nazi, calling me a child and etc, so i left it alone, and he banned me07:01
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CUsyntax-breaker: firefox 2.0.0.3, and someone in #ubuntu just confirmed he has this problem too.07:01
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CUsyntax-breaker:  I'm seeing a problem - white rectangles blocking significant parts of the display?07:02
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syntax-breakerahhhmm,, try to refresh your screen and check your screen resolution make your default reso. 1024x76807:04
redfive_i still caint get wine to work07:04
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redfive_i think its amd6407:04
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HKJGN_well, now that ive filed that complaint07:06
syntax-breakerCU: or try to use Koqueror Browser.07:07
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CUsyntax-breaker: konqueror is failing to get a net connection, opera has some different failure with the web page, & a friend usin OSX has no problem07:07
HKJGN_thanks for the help, atleast some people dont suck :D later, i dont use Kubuntu, i dont want to get thrown out, lol07:07
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CUsyntax-breaker: are you using fiesty & the 2.0.0.3 firefox? Any plugins?07:08
redfive_does wine work on amd64?07:09
lespeaquick ? -- where's the snow option in beryl... i can't find it!07:09
redfive_i caint get snow to work07:09
lespeado you know under which menu it is though?07:09
redfive_beryl setting manager, extras07:10
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redfive_caint get water to work07:10
syntax-breakerCU: yeah am using Feisty 7.04.. i both used Firefox & Konqueror as well as Opera but it doesn't seems to have any problem here07:10
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lespeayeah i don't have snow but I could have swore i had it earlier07:11
redfive_what does  Package wine has no installation candidate   mean?07:11
lespeaalso, wtf is rain wiper?07:11
ubuntu_so I have reformated my linux partitions, but now windows wont boot because of grub "error 17", what do I do07:11
Cnl_Deltahi where are webcams and their settings normally found in kubuntu?07:11
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CUsyntax-breaker: No problem with F, K & O??? wow. Any idea what my problem might be?07:12
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CUsyntax-breaker: the menu's on that web page work ok?  Do yo uhave shockwave flash & java?07:12
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syntax-breakerCU: yep.. i've got that, ahhmm ok u check if you have flash or java installed.07:13
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underzr0I LIKE CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:15
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underzr0BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:16
killiani like microwave chicken burritoes07:16
underzr0ICECREEM!!!!!!!!!07:17
CUsyntax-breaker: about:plugins: shockwave flash, & java (direct from sun download, iirc)07:17
underzr0BOTH!!!!!!!!!!07:17
CUsyntax-breaker: any ideas?07:17
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underzr0CHEESE?!?!?!?!? O.o07:17
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RictooI heard I can load the Kubuntu live CD into RAM07:19
RictooHow would I go about doing that?07:19
underzr0WHAT?07:19
fulat2kis superkaramba still the app to use for widgets?07:19
Rictoo(00:15:04) (underzr0) WHAT?07:19
Rictooaka., running kubuntu from ram -.-'07:19
RictooIt loads the entire Kubuntu into RAM, and it runs from ther07:19
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Rictooand it's EXTREMELY fast07:20
underzr0I'm not to sure07:20
fulat2kRictoo: something like fedora's live cd?07:20
RictooI'm not sure what Fedoa's live CD is like =p07:20
RictooFedora*07:20
underzr0plus why would you choose kubuntu over lovely ubuntu?!?!?!?07:20
RictooBecause KDE > Gnome07:20
carutsu_Rictoo: although i agree you shouldnt say that they are doferent07:21
Taladanunderzr0: because linux is about choice07:21
underzr0you hurt my feelings :'(07:21
syntax-breakerCU: maybe u have a prob. on your screen resolution. or if it doesn't work, u should restart ur system or you need to reinstall your browser07:21
carutsu_Rictoo: i agree, the fact YOU can choose is what's good about linux07:21
carutsu_well, is there a way to set more scale points in the power managment, currently i have only two choices 1/2 and full, can it be say 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 full?07:23
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underzr0bu bu bu gnome rox my sox!07:23
CUsyntax-breaker: thanks.  my screen res seems ok (laptop, most aps work fine).07:24
carutsu_anyone?07:24
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carutsu_!power manager07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about power manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
underzr0Hey people07:28
TaladanHey person.07:28
underzr0What are some supper great add ons for gnome?07:28
TaladanKDE07:29
carutsu_XD07:29
Jucatounderzr0: #ubuntu for GNOME stuff07:29
Taladan;)07:29
underzr0ok07:29
carutsu_that was like an infomertial or something07:29
TaladanHeadOn!  Apply directly to the forehead!07:29
underzr0I was just thinking about that comercial today07:30
underzr0weird....07:30
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Taladancarutsu_: I'm sure you can google it.07:31
Taladanit's out there.07:31
carutsu_HeadOn?07:31
underzr0ya07:31
underzr0you will see why we talk about it :P07:31
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syntax-breakercoOl dudess ;))07:32
carutsu_yep is on youtube07:32
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carutsu_OMG, that's annoying07:32
underzr0very07:32
underzr0i swear if i ever hear that voice again all kill somebody07:33
carutsu_XD07:33
carutsu_but it's a good commercial, see, now even i've heard of it07:33
underzr0meh07:34
carutsu_you guys remember the product and recommend other to see the 'annoying' comercial07:34
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carutsu_XD it's weird how it works07:34
carutsu_although i totally agree that are the most annoying 15 seconds i've ever seen, xD07:35
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underzr0i swear...07:36
underzr0i really will07:36
carutsu_XDX07:36
carutsu_HeadOn! Apply... *Carutsu runs to hide*07:36
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underzr0it has to be that exact voice07:38
carutsu_underzr0: XD07:38
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marlinthHello07:40
underzr0then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face07:40
marlinthI'm having problems with a logitech g5 laser mouse07:40
marlinth.....O_O07:40
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marlinthI'm running kubuntu feisty07:40
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marlinthand the mouse stops working if I move it too fast.07:40
underzr0 then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face07:41
marlinth....?07:42
xlosmarlinth: ahhm,, check your mouse settings speed07:42
lespeaokay, this, is ... odd07:42
underzr0i want to see the look on peoples message every time they come in :D07:43
lespeaif i turn on the desktop-preview applet; it shows FORTY EIGHT desktops!07:43
marlinthunder system->keyboard and mouse-> mouse07:43
marlinth?07:43
lespeabut, i only have 4 enabled under both beryl and the regular menu07:43
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xlosyep07:43
underzr0 then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face07:43
marlinthummm what am I looking for on that tab exactly?07:43
underzr0i hope people don't take this seriuosly and kick me07:44
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lespealol07:44
carutsu_lol07:44
underzr0ive done that before07:44
marlinthummmm xlos?07:45
carutsu_underzr0: done what?07:45
underzr0what you did07:45
carutsu_XD07:45
marlinthI'm assuming I need to go to the advanced tab since there is nothing on the main tab about it07:45
carutsu_shouldn't we get back to topic?07:45
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underzr0OWNED07:45
underzr0:P07:45
underzr0jk07:45
carutsu_XD07:46
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carutsu_underzr0: we should stop it before someone 'kindly' point us to #kubuntu-offtopic07:47
underzr0ya i guess lol07:47
underzr0wait they have one?!?!? why am i here?07:47
carutsu_XD underzr0 there's definetly one07:47
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Admiral_Chicagoi need a dvd ripper that uses Ogg Vorbis07:48
Admiral_Chicagoideas?L07:48
raylu|AFKrip, convert?07:48
Admiral_Chicagoripper07:48
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carutsu_raylu|AFK: K3B?07:50
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carutsu_raylu|AFK: Kjuicer? or something like that07:50
carutsu_!k3B07:50
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto07:50
carutsu_oops, i ment Admiral_Chicago07:50
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Admiral_Chicagoi mean ogg theora appearently07:50
nerdpartyHey Kubuntu, how do I make my folders invisible?07:51
carutsu_Admiral_Chicago: that var name wasn't declared in carutsu's scope07:51
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lespeacould somebody please look at this http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/7/f_omgm_794f2fb.png and tell me why it's doing that lol07:51
carutsu_XD, forget about it, i've had too much C++ for today07:51
fulat2knerdparty: rename it and add a . in front :)07:51
nerdpartyThanks!07:51
carutsu_lespea: WOW07:52
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lespeayeah...07:52
carutsu_!theora07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about theora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
fulat2knerdparty: that applies to files as well.07:52
lespeathere's only 4 enabled in both baryl and the default one07:52
fulat2k!karamba07:52
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org07:52
lespea(desktop settings or whatever)07:52
lespeai just renamed them and all the duplicates are named desktop 1 !!!07:52
carutsu_mm, sounds like something's corrupted07:53
nerdpartylespea: is that a comma or a period?07:53
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lespeahmm?07:53
nerdpartylespea: That I put in front of the file name.07:53
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lespeaumm... ?07:53
chxI have a serious gripe with kmix , if my click does not really gripe the slider then the volume will crank up like mad07:53
lespeaoh you're thinking of fulat2k07:53
lespealooks like a period to me07:54
nerdpartylespea: err, sorry. Sike!07:54
lespealol np07:54
lespeacar -- any suggestions?07:54
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nerdpartyfulat2k: Thanks a million!07:55
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carutsu_lespea: sorry no clues from me07:56
abortdis there any good program someone would recommend to host a website if all i wanted it to do is access mp3s from my one pc so i can play them over my wii browser?07:56
raylu|AFKlespea, set it to 1 in beryl07:57
raylu|AFKand 4 in the kde thing07:57
lespeaabortd: ssh?07:57
lespeaokay, will try07:57
abortdssh?07:57
lespeathanks07:57
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raylu|AFKabortd, access as in stream?07:58
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marlinthok I have a question my mouse just locked up07:58
abortdaccess as in having a player in he webpage that played a large list of mp3s07:58
abortdso streaming i guess07:58
marlinthso I opened /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:58
marlinthin kate07:59
rayluabortd, will the wii player work with a shoutcast station?07:59
abortdthe*07:59
abortdhm not sure07:59
marlinthlooking at the tail end it says (**) configured mouse: protocol: "ImPS/2"07:59
abortdnintendo wii07:59
marlinthshouldnt' that be usb since it's a usb mouse?07:59
abortdi doubt and i doubt it07:59
raylumarlinth, you might want to look up a config for your specific model08:00
rayluabortd, try a random shoutcast station08:00
abortdhm08:00
marlinthcan't find one for the g508:00
abortdi wonder if wii has a media player for its browser08:00
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abortdi could just post the file directory?08:00
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abortdthat would kinda suck though08:01
fakepatriotcan someone tell me how to add a larger screen resolution in kubuntu feisty?08:01
underzr0umm08:02
marlinthok this is weird in Konsole when I ran the kate command to open the conf I got this error08:02
underzr0you have to go into some crap and get technical08:02
raylumarlinth, in a terminal, you should use nano or vim for text editing.08:02
underzr0then you have to download crap08:02
raylualt+f2 for kate08:02
marlinthX Error: BadDevice, invalid or ininitialized input device 16708:02
raylufakepatriot, edit your xorg.conf08:02
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marlinthcould that be related to my mouse?08:03
fakepatriotraylu: thanks08:03
marlinthmajor opcode: 14408:03
marlinthminor opcode: 308:03
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marlinthResource id: 0x008:03
raylumarlinth, you _could_ try Option "Protocol" "auto"08:03
raylubut i wouldn't recommend it08:03
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marlinthI don't know that much I'm relatively new to linux08:04
rayluor this: http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux/08:04
marlinthcan't click on it lol08:04
MaxdamantusWhere does aptitude store it's .deb files it downloads again?08:04
rayluoh.08:04
raylu[01:02:24]  <raylu> marlinth, in a terminal, you should use nano or vim for text editing. [01:02:28]  <raylu> alt+f2 for kate08:04
chxMaxdamantus: look around in /var/cache08:04
MaxdamantusThanks.08:04
chxMaxdamantus: /var/cache/apt/archives/08:05
Maxdamantus/var/cache/apt/archives08:05
MaxdamantusYea.08:05
marlinthwhat's the option I need to set for the protocol field for a usb mouse?08:05
marlinthI'm trying to alter the xorg.conf file to use usb for my mouse instead of ps/208:06
marlinththe protocol option is set to ImPS/2 right now08:07
MaxdamantusDoes it work on the LiveCD through USB?08:08
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underzr0 then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face08:08
Rictoo(01:04:11)  join: (root__) (n=root@82.78.149.36)08:08
marlinthno it drops either way08:08
Rictooi... d.... i... o.. t....08:08
raylumarlinth, "evdev" for the g708:08
MaxdamantusRictoo..08:08
RictooLETS HAX HIM08:08
marlinthit's a g508:08
underzr0What?08:09
MaxdamantusThat's what happens when you run Konversation off the livecd.08:09
RictooHaxing... <82.78.149.36>08:09
rayluI know, but I imagine that it would be the same08:09
marlinthI'm running off an install not the cd08:09
rayluhe's talking about root__08:09
MaxdamantusI meant for root__08:09
underzr0are you running gnome?08:09
Rictooi'm talking about root__08:09
raylulol...08:09
MaxdamantusWhen you run Konversation, by default. when you run it, it tries using the users name from Linux.08:10
underzr0i know08:10
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underzr0 then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face08:10
MaxdamantusAnd when you boot into the LiveCD, it logs in as root.08:10
marlinthok so yeah I've set the driver to evdev in the xorg.conf file08:10
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marlinthhow do I save it in kate without a mouse ?08:10
rayluctrl+s08:10
underzr0that's right you better run os2 something else08:10
raylui'm going to guess you didn't kdesu kate08:10
rayluand it's telling you something about how it can't save08:10
marlinthyeah08:11
marlinthI'm an idiot08:11
marlinthlol08:11
MaxdamantusI use nano for system files.08:11
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underzr0 then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face08:11
raylu*their08:11
raylu*splatter08:11
MaxdamantusCan't be bothered waiting for kwrite to contact the x server each time. :P08:11
rayluso you'd rather wait for a konsole to contact it?08:11
underzr0Why do you correct my grammer?08:12
raylu*grammar? spelling?08:12
MaxdamantusThe konsole doesn't contact the xserver, only from the login your using.08:12
underzr0GOD!08:12
marlinthhere's hoping08:12
rayluLOL08:12
underzr0stop doing that08:12
underzr0:P08:13
MaxdamantusIf you run a terminal program in konsole, it isn't contacting the xserver.08:13
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raylubut konsole had to contact it08:13
syntax-breakerwhat is the difference of terminal program & konsole?08:13
rayluterminal programs run inside konsole08:14
rayluwhich is like a wrapper for terminals..sort of...i think08:14
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Maxdamantus....08:14
rayluunless you run it in another tty, you have to contact the xserver08:14
underzr0ya run like a chicken alex08:14
lespeawell I had to restart X and i went through beryl again... but with 1 desktop in both i still have 12 "desktops"08:15
MaxdamantusWhen you run a program inside the terminal, only the Konsole itself is contacting the XServer.08:15
MaxdamantusIf you kdesu a program in terminal, the program starts up, and root has to contact the xserver with it.08:15
underzr0Whoever thou uses Kubuntu is cursed with a never ending curse!08:15
MaxdamantusCreating a new virtual session kind of in kde.08:15
rayluright...08:16
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Maxdamantusunderzr0, I don't seem to be cursed.08:16
rayluso, again, unless you run it in another tty, you're still contacting xserver08:16
underzr0That's what you think...08:16
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Maxdamantusraylu, no.08:16
MaxdamantusThe console is actually contacting the KDE session you have open.08:16
underzr0Did i make you cry daisuke?08:17
underzr0xD08:17
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MaxdamantusOtherwise it would take like 30 seconds to open each GUI program.08:17
MaxdamantusThat's why you have a desktop environment.08:17
rayluo.008:17
underzr0Have you noticed kde is cool08:18
raylu0.o08:18
rayluo.008:18
underzr0that came out wrong!08:18
raylui see.08:18
underzr0have you ever noticed gnome is cool?08:18
underzr0wait...08:18
underzr0ya i think i said that right08:19
raylu*that08:19
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MaxdamantusDoesn't need the "that".08:19
MaxdamantusMakes sense without it.08:19
underzr0OMG08:20
underzr0everyone corrects my grammar08:20
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rayluer...no. its just me. and that's the first time. it was spelling, remember?08:21
raylui was debating whether or not it needed that08:21
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lespeaany beryl experts in here?08:21
raylubut because it'd be funny, I decided to just say it :P08:21
rayluthere's a #beryl, lespea08:21
lespeanobody's responding :(08:22
rayluand a #ubuntu-effects08:22
lespeaI think it's a beryl problem...08:22
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lespeamy desktops are super-multiplying08:22
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lespea1 = 6 (or 12 sometimes)08:22
lespea4 == 4808:22
rayluyou could export your beryl settings and pastebin them08:22
lespea:o08:22
lespeahmm k08:22
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MaxdamantusMultiplying ftw.08:23
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lespeahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19582/08:25
MaxdamantusDon't do this:08:25
Maxdamantusecho "while(1==1){shell_exec(\"screen -d -m php test.php\");}" >> test.php && php test.php08:25
lespeaooh somebody's in beryl08:25
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MaxdamantusWait, meant to have <?php and ?>08:25
rayludon't do this: "sudo rm -rfd ./" and leave out the period08:25
Maxdamantusecho "<?php while(1==1){shell_exec(\"screen -d -m php test.php\");} ?>" >> test.php && php test.php08:26
MaxdamantusI made that to see how much lag it would actually produce.08:26
MaxdamantusAnd had to force shutdown.08:26
_underzr0OWNED08:27
_underzr0i mean... darn08:27
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snake_hi all08:27
_underzr0hi08:27
_underzr0do you use Konversation?08:28
snake_yes08:28
raylussh kill :P08:28
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_underzr0ok good08:28
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snake_what is the best compression tool i can get08:28
_underzr0snake: do you use Kde or gnome?08:28
snake_kde08:28
raylusnake_, for files?08:29
_underzr0i'm not longer speaking to you!>:(08:29
_underzr0:P08:29
rayluark comes with kde and it supports like...everything08:29
_underzr0jk08:29
snake_raylu: yes08:29
rayluor do you mean compression format?08:29
snake_yes i know but i want something that can compress more than ark08:30
snake_in rar format08:30
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_underzr0hello08:30
rayluwhy not something like tar.gz?08:30
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majnoonis anyone else having trouble burning cdroms since upgrade ??08:30
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snake_because the reason that i want rar08:31
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majnoonthis what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/08:31
_underzr0No, but then again i never burn cdroms08:31
majnoonthis what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/08:31
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snake_is something that i can not change08:31
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majnoonit doesn't see cd-r in drive (it sees drive though)08:31
_underzr0majnoon you use gnome?08:31
raylum...I suppose putting in .tar.gz format and then storing it as a .rar with the 0 compression method isn't an option?08:32
majnoonusually kde08:32
raylumajnoon, are you sure the cd is writable?08:32
majnoonyup brand new out of package ,tried 5 dif cd-r's08:32
_underzr0why does everybody use kde?08:32
_underzr0!>!!?!?!?!?08:32
snake_any idea of something that can compress to much ??08:33
rayluyou're in the kubuntu channel. on another note, you're not being helpful08:33
majnoondoesn't see disk in drive08:33
_underzr0ok sorry08:33
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MaxdamantusBecause KDE is so much eliter than GNOME.08:33
majnooni also use windowmaker blackbox and gnome08:33
MaxdamantusI have GNOME too though.08:33
rayluew, ok, and ew08:33
majnoonthis what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/08:33
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A_Ay can i not control the volume through kmix, even when i move the sliders it does nothing to my sound08:34
Maxdamantusmajnoon, it isn't saying it's a cd-rw08:35
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majnoonit cdR08:35
majnoonnot rw08:35
MaxdamantusOh.08:35
rayluA_A, are you on a laptop by any chance?08:35
MaxdamantusIt's not a CDR though.08:35
A_Anope08:35
MaxdamantusDevice type    : Removable CD-ROM08:35
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rayluA_A, perhaps you are moving the wrong channel08:36
majnoonlook at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/08:36
A_Ai moved them all08:36
rayluo.008:36
A_Aeven the master volume doesnt do anything08:36
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majnoonSense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x008:36
raylufor me, moving the master volume has no effect on my headphone volume because it's not set as the master channel08:36
A_Anot of the sliders in kmix do anything to my sound =\08:36
A_Anot = none08:36
raylui'm not too clear on how sound works08:37
majnoonthis the command i used cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc /mnt/hdd4/storage/store/FreeSBIE-2.0.1-RELEASE.iso08:37
A_AO.o08:37
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A_Alol08:37
A_Ait seems kmic picked something up last time i booted08:37
A_Akmix08:37
majnoontried rebooting into previous kernel and no change08:38
rayluwhy not use K3B?08:38
MaxdamantusSince when was a cd device hdc?08:38
majnooni tried that too08:38
Maxdamantushdc means hard drive 3.08:38
MaxdamantusShould be something like scd008:38
majnoonin 2.16.7 right now08:39
MaxdamantusAway.08:39
majnoonnewest kernel is 2.16.20 me think08:39
majnoontried older kernel to see if it would work (answer is NO)08:39
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raylumajnoon, what Maxdamantus is right08:40
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majnooni TRIED k3b (in both kernels) and cdrecord (in both kernels) get SAME problem08:42
majnoonit IS scd0 in latest and hdc in 2.6.1708:43
rayluo.0 wtfz08:43
rayluit's just cdrom linked to cdrom0 for me08:43
majnoonit an ide drive08:44
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rayluwhat's the mount time?08:45
raylu*type?08:45
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majnoonit no mount blank cdroms08:45
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MenaIs that possible lost-found files would be corrupted while running widows08:49
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majnoonraylu: i mounted a dvd ok08:50
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majnoonfrom mtab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom udf ro 008:51
majnoonfrom mtab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom udf ro 0 008:51
majnoonraylu: you awake ??08:52
stravhe there. I just removed a max of gnome packages before installing kubuntu and now kde menus are mostly empty (still have run command and such), I tried removing my .kde, .config, updating the menus with update-menus or with kmenuedit none of these works... beside, my /etc/xdg/ menus is not empty... any ideas on how can I resolve this?08:52
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stravhmm. kcontrol is also empty now.08:54
Menahmm ho that could be08:54
Menahow*08:54
bobstrostrav:  you might try reinstalling kde-dektop?08:56
stravMena: I removed too much stuff to be shure of this. Anyhow, I tought there were a quick way to restore most's of kde's settings.08:56
stravbobstro, yes, I was playing with dpkg-reconfigure just now.08:57
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Menastrav, hmm ok08:57
bobstrostrav:  worst-case, i suppose you could uninstall, then reinstall it08:58
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stravbobstro, I'll see what it can do...08:58
Menathere is a command wich allow you to install all this08:58
stravbrb08:58
Menabut i cant remeber it08:59
Menaok08:59
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bobstroapt-get install kde-desktop perhap?08:59
Menano anothr one08:59
Menaanother*08:59
Menaand they were 3 too08:59
Menalikae sudo apt-get install app app app08:59
Menaany hope if he can find a way09:00
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lespeasorry I'm late... what're you trying to install?09:00
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Menalespea, there is someone would to install kcontorl setting menus and a lot of stuffs09:01
Menastrav,09:01
Menabec as i guess he installed kubuntu on ubuntu09:02
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lespeadid you manually upgrade from gnome or something?09:02
Menabut he removed a lot of settings09:02
lespeaah09:02
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Menalespea, any way i was sying there is a command allow you to install all kubuntu things09:02
Menabeside sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop (here more two)09:03
stravMena, I first installed kde meta-package and had this menu problem then installed kubuntu thinking it would be cleaner...09:03
Menabut i cant get it09:03
lespeahmm09:03
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lespeaand you did sudo aptitude install kde-desktop?09:03
Menastrav, maybe lespea would help you i really dont know :)09:04
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lespeai've never went from gnome -> kde09:04
lespeajust guessing09:04
lespea:O09:04
Menalespea, is that possible that lost+found would be corrupted while running widows09:04
Admiral_ChicagoJucato is probably the man to answer all KDE questions09:04
Menayes but i guess he is away now09:05
Menamaybe09:05
lespeahmm.... dunno :(09:05
lespeasry09:05
Menano prob09:05
MenaAdmiral_Chicago, is that possible :)09:05
Mena:D09:06
stravI'm logging out... thanks anyways.09:06
Admiral_Chicagono, i'm exaggerating.09:06
JucatoMena: you mean Alt+F2, "kcontrol"?09:06
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Jucato:P09:06
MenaJucato, ehehhe ok09:06
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MenaGood Morning or>>>....09:06
chxI have only one CPU with a Core Duo CPU. I believe that's not good.09:07
JucatoMena: what are you trying to do again? sorry don't wanna scroll up too much. :D09:07
MenaJucato, no its not me09:07
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Jucatooh whowas it?09:07
bobstrochx:  which kernel did you boot? did you have more than one?09:07
MenaJucato, its strav09:07
Menabut he is out now09:07
chxLinux bean 2.6.20-15-386 #2 Sun Apr 15 07:34:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux09:07
chxuname -a09:07
Jucatoaw, he left...09:08
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Jucatoheheh09:08
MenaJucato, but i also have a question09:08
bobstrochx:  was there a generic in the list when you booted?09:08
MenaJucato, is that possible that Lost+Found Files would be  corrupted while running widows09:08
bobstrochx:  i got both on my laptop (also duo). defaulted to i386 (single)09:08
MenaJucato, wait till this question :D09:08
chxbobstro: ah, 386 is single, generic is SMP?09:08
chxbobstro: good.09:08
bobstroMena:  are you mounting ext3 under windows?09:09
bobstrochx:  yeah, cat /proc/cpuinfo to verify.09:09
Menayes09:09
JucatoMena: hm... not really sure what you mean? the Lost & Found menu entries?09:09
Menano the Lost+files located on the ext3 partitions09:09
bobstroMena:  if windows messes up the filesystem, entries will be CREATED under lost & found when fsck is run.09:09
JucatoMena: ah.. bobstro seems to know09:09
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bobstroMena:  are you by any chance suspending, then booting into windows?09:09
Menabobstro, n on o09:10
chxbobstro: problem. E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-general09:10
chxbobstro: I have 386 because I need the nvidia module and there is no -general for that09:10
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bobstrochx:  general or generic?09:10
Menabut i was running a cleannig app for bec you know and i just found it was searching on lost+found files09:10
chxBOTHER!09:10
Menaso09:10
chxbobstro: thanks.09:10
Jucatochx: you don't need -386 if you need nvidia09:10
chxof course, of course09:10
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Menabobstro, thanks any way :)09:11
bobstroMena:  ah, a windows disk cleaning app?09:11
Menayes09:11
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chxfinally, finally, can't wait to watch GitS in 1280x720 :)09:11
Menasomething like that09:11
bobstroMena:  if it doesn't know about ext3, it might "fix" it (badly)09:11
chxhow do I set the default in grub/menu.lst ?09:12
bobstroMena:  i've been doing exactly that, but have decided to use ntfs-3g instead now due to windows causing problems on my ext3 partition.09:12
bobstrochx:  it may remember your last, but you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst too.09:12
Menabobstrom , hmmm ok09:12
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Menabobstrom , but i also stopped it (while searching) befor contineu09:13
bobstrochx:  there may be a pretty gui for that, but i don't know of one.09:13
bobstroMena:  disk utilities are bad news if they try to operate on filesystems incorrectly.09:13
Menabobstro, yeah09:13
bobstroMena:  if you have entries in lost & found, those are "stranded" files.09:13
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bobstroMena:  the directory info has been lost, but fsck found the actual files.09:14
bobstroMena:  are there many under there?09:14
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fdovingchx: the first in the list is the default by default. 'default 0' sets that. set that to 1, 2 3 4 5 etc. makes the instance number X the default. reading from the top and down of menu.lst.09:14
Menabobstro, you mean ext309:14
Menabobstro, or09:14
Menasec plz09:14
chxfdoving: thanks.09:15
lennin001please, need a Good program to edit videos from diferent type videos and copilate on a dvd09:15
lennin001tnks09:15
bobstrocopulate on a dvd?09:15
lennin001no09:15
Menabobstro, i didnt get you are there many under there?09:16
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bobstroMena:  many files under lost & found?09:16
lennin001to edit my videos from different type's and burn on a dvd09:16
Menabobstro, ohhh no i dont know now bec i had to remove xp09:16
lennin001I'm sorry for my English09:16
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bobstrolennin001:  your english is fine.09:17
Menabobstro, befor that there were yes i as i guess09:17
lennin001tnks09:17
bobstroMena:  those were the recovered files that it found. sort of like .chk files on dos. you might be able to salvage those.09:17
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rizomahi someone know why if i try to install ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools system cant find that package?09:18
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Aaronfromchinahi. :)09:18
Menabobstro, hmmm ok09:19
bobstrorizoma:  the menu item or the installer fails?09:19
edyfarmhi all09:19
lennin001I have instaled the Kino, but just acept a Vid files no AVI or any other video format09:19
lennin001please help me09:19
rizomain the console it tell me cannot find ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools09:19
bobstrolennin001:  i don't do video myself, but you might try the forums.09:20
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edyfarmanyone ever use umax astra 3400 scanner??09:20
edyfarmi mean in ubuntu09:20
lennin001that's like's a live forum no?09:20
bobstrolennin001:  not live, but a LOT of info is archived there. you can search, find a lot of good answers if nobody here can help you right away.09:21
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Aaronfromchinadoes anyone know that how to find a full-length sony in Last.FM?09:21
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rizomabob i type sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools  then it read packages create a dependecy tree then it cant find nautilus tool09:22
Aaronfromchinadoes anyone know that how to find a full-length song in Last.FM? :)09:22
fdovingrizoma: the package doesn't exist.09:22
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fdovingAaronfromchina: no, it has nothing to do with kubuntu support anyway.09:22
lennin001ok09:22
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Aaronfromchinafdoving: :)09:22
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Aaronfromchinafdoving: all right. :)09:23
rizomafdoving: i've added the repository for it09:23
Menabobstro, Thanks :)09:23
fdovingrizoma: did you run 'sudo aptitude update' or similar?09:23
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Menabobstro, Is there a way to locate the size of the lost+foud files09:23
lennin001I'm sorry for the tip, that's my final way, so may have a bad look09:23
lennin001bye09:23
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Menabobstro, its normally about 400 mb right ?09:24
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chxOh yes! Oh yes!09:24
chxSo much better.09:24
chx:)09:24
bobstroMena:  it depends what was lost (and found)09:24
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rizomafdoving: i've tried apt-get update but it tells me a file is locked what i can do?09:24
Menabobstro, hmm ok09:24
fdovingrizoma: do you have adept or some other package manager running?09:24
rizomano09:25
fdoving!adeptfix | rizoma09:25
rizomacan i open a something to see task in use?09:25
uboturizoma: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:25
fdovingrizoma: try that.09:25
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rizomai try09:25
chxthis is interesting, if I set the CPU speed down to 1GHz it's just not fast enough. 1.66GHz buys me enough juice, though.09:25
Menabobstro, I'm getting tired with this i think i will use ntfs in the future :D09:25
Menaheheh :)09:26
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bobstroMena:  yeah, windows is mean to ext3.09:26
rizomait tells me /var/lib/apt/lists/lock locked09:26
[Flux] whats up guys09:27
[Flux] rizoma open up your process manager09:27
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[Flux] look for adept or some apt program running09:28
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[Flux] adept notifier is running, dont shut that off09:28
[Flux] as you need it to get security update notifications09:28
[Flux] but any other apt/adept program is causing your problem09:29
Menarizoma,maybe simply you can do this killall adept_manager or just close the terminal and open it again and try09:29
[Flux] or reboot your pc09:29
[Flux] lol09:29
rizomaghghgh09:29
Menayeah but this is not a slotution on linux you should get the problem and through it away :)09:30
rizomano process running09:30
fdovingrizoma: if you run the command ubotu  told you to you will be asked if you want to kill the process lockin gthe package database.09:30
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[Flux] im off to play ufo:ai09:30
[Flux] have fun guys09:31
rizomaf09:31
rizomafdoving: repeat please09:31
fdoving!adeptfix | rizoma09:31
uboturizoma: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:31
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bassehi, i have a strange little problem. my network works for things like ssh, apt-get etc just fine.. and even lynx from commandline seems to work..09:32
bassebut for somereason konqueror doesnt access any webpages.09:32
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rizomait doesnt work09:32
rizoma:09:32
basse;)09:32
fdovingbasse: you have knetworkmanager running, but it's not connected, that tricks KDE into thinking you're not connected to any network. close knetworkmanager and try again.09:32
chxis there an easily installable package which would let me change CPU freqs from KDE ? http://freshmeat.net/projects/kcpufreq/ this does not seem to be active or having a deb09:32
basseooh09:32
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bassefdoving: wohoo! ;) what is knetworkmanager09:33
_ubuntuhi09:33
majnoonanyone else having trouble burning cdroms after upgrade ??09:33
bassefdoving: and should that be configured somehow then.. ?  thanks for the quick help! my son is pleased.09:33
chxahhhh http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33257  :)09:33
fdovingbasse: the little networkmanager sitting in your systray in the lower right corner, next to the clock. one of those small icons. white with some red X or something.09:33
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bassefdoving: yep, i closed the app. konqueror works now.09:34
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rizomawhy it's a big problem to write in a ntfs partition??? :09:35
arabulis there anyone know turkish09:35
fdovingbasse: if you don't use it you can configure it to not autostart with you kde session. i guess you need to restart it, right-click on the icon -> configure autostart.. or similar. you can also just try to logout and login without it running. KDE should pick that up and save your session wihtout it running.09:35
arabulturkish?09:35
Alarmi know just hindi09:36
Alarmand a bit of mongolese09:36
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arabulabicim imdi bana byk harf muhabbeti yapmican dimi?09:36
arabul:D09:36
Alarmarabul,  dont u think instead of hoping someone to know turkish , u to learn english ?09:37
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Jucato!tr09:37
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.09:37
arabul know english09:37
arabulbut you know my kubuntu system is in turkish09:37
arabuland  have to write the error in english09:37
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arabulsorry in turkish  mean09:38
Alarmwhats the error about09:38
brittwhat recommendation would everybody have for measuring temperature on a CPU?09:38
arabulit say one program of the system collapsed09:38
AlarmJucato,  finally it wasnt what i told u on cedega, it had to do with nvidia. and yes some drivers can well installed or not or not well configured09:39
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Menabritt, install lm-sensors09:39
arabulalarm..?09:39
Alarmhad to change this line: Option          "NvAGP"       "1" to "2" and create a nvidia file in the modprobe.d with some options in it09:39
Alarmgoodmorning btw jucato :)09:40
Alarmarabul,  and whats so tragical ?09:40
Jucatohi Alarm09:40
Alarmreopen it09:40
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rizomasomeone know other way to get usb ntfs storage works?09:40
brittMena: how would i run this?09:40
arabul cant find wich program had collapsed09:40
Alarmusb ntfs storage ? that reminds me someone ! :)09:40
brittdoes it run as a docked app or ??09:40
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rizomaAlarm: what you mean?09:41
Alarmhave the same problem several days now09:41
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arabulyeah09:42
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arabulalarm thank you but  think you cant on not helm me....09:43
arabulon ... or*09:43
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Alarmarabul,  if u would give me even less invofmation maybe things could be better :)09:43
Alarmi am not a miracle or a wizard to imagine in my mind whats ur problem09:44
Alarmin ur case anyway, i would leave it like that if i wouldnt see any change in my system and would restart and see if its ok then09:44
arabul told you that when  start my pc an error occurs says" one of the program collapsed" but doesnt show the prolem when  click09:46
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rizomaAlarm: http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/howto.html look at point 409:47
arabul think it doesnt effect the  system too much09:47
rizomaAlarm: look if you can install that script09:48
arabulbut the warning whenever  started disturbs mi09:48
arabulalarm where are you from?09:49
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Alarmarabul,  check at the files /var/log/user.log , syslog and check if there is an error there09:49
Alarmrizoma,  i will bookmark it , i got to go unfortunatelly09:49
arabul looked there yesterday there vas error but today  cant see the yesterday's messages09:50
Alarmreboot and u will see the todays message if u say that it appears everytime09:50
rizomabye Alarm!09:50
Alarmrizoma,  thank you for ur search . bye09:51
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arabulthere is an error :May  7 09:43:23 arabul kdm_greet[5743] : Internal error: memory corruption detected09:51
rizomano one here can mount usb ntfs disks???09:51
arabulcan it be related to it09:52
Mena_britt, install ksensors09:52
Mena_britt, but do you know09:52
arabul?09:52
arabulalarm, May  7 09:43:23 arabul kdm_greet[5743] : Internal error: memory corruption detected09:52
Mena_britt, i siuggest that you install superkarmaba (sudo apt-get install suprkaramba) and then go here kde-look.org and use one of those theme it will display your pz heath stautes and alot of cool things09:53
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Mena_britt, superkaramba themes located under (karamba) on kde-look.org09:54
arabulalarm are you there....?09:54
Mena_britt, Have fun ! :)09:54
britt:)09:54
Mena_britt, hey also09:54
arabulalarm,...thank you for trying for help....09:54
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arabuli m leaving now09:55
MaxdamantusOdd..09:55
Mena_britt, to keep sure your pc heath stautes display right install those ( lm-sensors and hddtemp (for harddisk temp and smartmontools )09:56
MaxdamantusIt treats any hdd as sd* .. But I'm running it on a vm atm, and it's hd*09:56
brittah09:57
brittcool09:57
Mena_britt, and also if you used superkarmba themes you maybe see the TXT files included with the themes to know what you need09:57
rizomaAs of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing support09:57
rizomathrough a very experimental NTFS FUSE module. Using this seems to work but09:57
rizomais NOT recommended. Do you want to use this? [no] 09:57
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rizomayes or no?09:57
MaxdamantusWhy not use ntfs-3g?09:57
MaxdamantusApparently it's better.09:57
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rizomai cant handle usb ntfs09:58
MaxdamantusI don't have a proper installation of Windows though, so no ntfs for me. :)09:58
MaxdamantusOnly got Windows on a vm.09:58
MaxdamantusWhy do you have ntfs on a usb?09:58
rizomait's  big backup and i work on 3d studio in windows for work09:59
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MaxdamantusBut why do you have an ntfs usb?09:59
MaxdamantusBack everything up off it and reformat to fat32 or something.09:59
MaxdamantusUnless you have files bigger than 4gb.10:00
majnoonok max booted into LATEST kernel and same problem10:00
rizomabut why it's so difficult handle ntfs10:00
rizoma:|10:00
MaxdamantusBecause it's designed by Microsoft.10:01
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MaxdamantusAnd Microsoft is 100% non-open source10:01
rizomasadness10:01
Angel-SLhello, I just noticed a error in the kubuntu leaflet10:01
Maxdamantusntfs-3g uses the ntoskrnl.exe though.10:01
MaxdamantusSo that's the most compatible atm.10:01
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Angel-SLMaxdamantus: it does? i used it without that before10:02
MaxdamantusYes, it does.. I think.10:02
MaxdamantusIt emulates it with Wine as far as I know.10:02
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Angel-SLwithout ntoskrnl.exe10:02
Angel-SLi used it without wine!10:02
Angel-SLon a clean live cd, my friend.10:02
MaxdamantusModified wine..10:02
MaxdamantusWhich has it on there.10:02
Angel-SL:o10:03
Mena_Thanks .....Bye10:03
MaxdamantusDo you have ntfs-3g installed?10:03
majnoonMaxdamantus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19588/10:03
MaxdamantusTry "slocate ntoskrnl.exe" to see if it finds anything.10:03
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aftertafany know pboblem with feisty and the 2.6.20.15 kernel?10:05
majnoon0    dev='/dev/sr0'   rwrwrw :  'LITE-ON'  'COMBO SOHC-5232K'10:05
Maxdamantusmajnoon, I don't think sr0 should be a cd-rom device.10:05
aftertafI can't boot to it (like when beta, with the SATA driver making it all hang.)10:05
MaxdamantusWhen I try, it says:10:05
MaxdamantusError trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.10:05
MaxdamantusBut I can see that my device is scd010:06
Maxdamantus/dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,user=maxdamantus)10:06
aftertafand i cant get NVIDIA driver installed...... on 20.13 kernel, headers missing...10:06
MaxdamantusNever tried cdrecord before.10:06
majnoonthat what i get from cdrecord scanbus10:06
MaxdamantusAnd not sure what sr0 is meant to be.10:06
crimsun-13- is way too old.  7.04 doesn't ship with -13-, it ships with -15-.10:06
majnoonlet me see something10:07
crimsun2.6.20-15.27.10:07
MaxdamantusTry using k3b to write something.10:07
aftertafyeah, but.10:07
aftertaf.15 doesnt boot.... like with the earlier versions.... only .13 is booting10:07
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majnoonfrom dmesg:10:08
majnoon[   31.335079]  sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/52x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray10:08
aftertaffreezing on ata like before.........10:08
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majnoonk3b says no media present10:10
MaxdamantusNot sure then.10:10
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aftertafis anyone else having problems with the official latest feisty kernel not booting?10:11
epimethack... I forgot how to set the brightness of my screen?  its a laptop....10:11
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epimethbelay that question... found it :-)10:14
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ernieaftertaf I had just booted my system up and got a busybox prompt - rebooted again and it came up normally - very weird - I have a Raid1 SATA Feisty setup10:16
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ubuntu_hey turd10:17
ubuntu_;p;\10:17
ubuntu_;;p;p10:17
ubuntu_;p;;10:17
ubuntu_lolll10:17
crimsunwill you please stop troll...10:17
crimsunwell, ok.10:17
crimsunI guess silence is indeed golden.10:17
epimethnaw... its more yellow-bronzey10:18
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A_Ahow do i get java applets to work in firefox ?10:19
A_Ai have downloaded the appropriate software10:19
A_Ajust cant install it10:19
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NtfsUsbAgonyhi10:21
aftertafwell i just cant boot (tm) with new kernel10:21
NtfsUsbAgony=)10:21
MaxdamantusA_A: Try "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts"10:21
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MaxdamantusAs long as you're using x8610:21
tdnAs default an 5% of an ext3 file system is reserved for root. How do I change this to 0% when the filesystem already is created and contain data that I do not want to loose? Can I use tune2fs?10:22
A_Aya10:22
A_Aits installing10:22
MaxdamantusOk.10:22
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A_Ata*10:23
Maxdamantustdn, what do you mean?10:24
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tdnMaxdamantus, which part do you not understand?10:25
MaxdamantusEverything.10:25
MaxdamantusHow can you reserve part of an ext3 fs for root?10:26
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tapashow can i make dns servers i add via the network manager permanent?10:32
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flaccid_tapas: is this for a dynamic or static profile?10:33
tapasi use dhcp...10:33
tapasflaccid_: well, my router provides dns services10:33
tapasbut it has problems with konqueror's massive dns lookup orgies10:33
tapas[or so i read] 10:33
flaccid_i find that hard to believe10:33
tapasfact is that out of 5 requests one dns lookup fails when it goes to the router10:34
tapaswhen i enter the dns addresses locally to resolv.conf it works like a charm10:34
flaccid_ah thats a router issue not the dns10:34
flaccid_your router is failing dns relay10:34
flaccid_quite a common thing10:34
flaccid_unless you are getting packet loss10:34
tapasanyways, a workaround is to add the nameservers locally..  but the change doesn't seem to be permanent..10:35
flaccid_yes thats because of dhcp10:35
flaccid_and dhcp adds the servers locally anyway10:35
flaccid_thats not a solution10:35
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tapasyes dhcp adds a single nameserver ;) 192.168.1.1 :)10:35
tapas[which is the router address] 10:35
flaccid_solution is to set up a server with bind or get your router to give the ISP dns server addresses or go static and set them in your resolv.conf manualy10:35
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flaccid_yes10:36
flaccid_and the dns relay fails10:36
flaccid_coz the router sux10:36
tapasyes10:36
flaccid_what brand is it?10:36
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tapasnet-g-g-g-gear10:36
tapas;)10:36
flaccid_yep10:36
flaccid_i've had that before on netgear10:36
slougii had a similar issue too10:36
flaccid_i don't know why they fail but they do. netcomm is common for this as well10:36
slougii just brute-force override resolv.conf10:37
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flaccid_but if you dhcp, that will be overwritten on each renew...10:37
slougiworks well enough for now10:37
tapaswhich is what i'm trying to do, too.. i just wonder what's the correct way.. i suppose using the ifup script for that would work10:37
slougiyes, note brute-force ;) cron job runs every minute to overwrite it... couldn't be bothered to fix it in any better way10:37
flaccid_like i said10:38
flaccid_the correct way:10:38
tapasyes i read you10:38
flaccid_<flaccid_> solution is to set up a server with bind or get your router to give the ISP dns server addresses or go static and set them in your resolv.conf manualy10:38
slouginone of those solutions is very good though10:38
slougiexcept the second10:38
flaccid_basically, you can't change the DNS server setting for dhcp on your router, so you can't use the DHCP on the router10:39
flaccid_yeah but you wont be able to change the dns value given by the router dhcp server10:39
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tapasi think i read somewhere that one can tell dhcp not to overwrite resolv.conf.. checking10:39
flaccid_so solution is either your own dns server which relays from isp, or go static10:39
aftertafoh well.... when you cant fix it, work around it with a new set of problems :)10:40
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tapashttp://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=723910:41
tapasthat looks good, too10:41
flaccid_hehe, yeah but there is no caveat with going static in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf10:41
MaxdamantusHmm.. On a trading site I use, some people say that systems other than Windows 2000 and XP have problems with 120gb+ HDDs.10:42
MaxdamantusIs that the case with Ubuntu? :S10:42
fdovingMaxdamantus: no. not at all.10:42
flaccid_tapas: thats a nasty hack and doesn't apply to you. you do not run a dns server on localhost10:42
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MaxdamantusHmm..10:42
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flaccid_Maxdamantus: no10:43
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flaccid_tapas: actually the second guys post was the right one. supersede domain-name-servers <dns1-ip>, <dns2-ip>;10:43
fdovingtapas: if you're going to use something like that i'd recommend post 2.10:44
tapasyeah10:44
flaccid_that arnie guy is quite crap10:44
flaccid_post 2?10:44
flaccid_oh yeah10:44
flaccid_we agree10:44
epimethanybody know how to show more fields than just "Name" and "Email" in the contacts list of Kontact ?10:44
fdovingi use something much cooler, i have a local caching dns, pdnsd, and resolvconf. i don't have to do antyhing but install those pakcages and i'm good to go. they talk to each other and figure everything out.10:44
tapasi tried installing a local dns caching server, but just installing the package didn't suffice..10:45
tapasi was too tired to read the docs then thoguh ;)10:45
flaccid_fdoving: all you need is dhclient and a caching dns server on the lan, not sure why you need pdnsd and resolvconf10:45
flaccid_!bind > tapas10:45
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fdovingflaccid_: i don't need them, i want them. resolvconf because it's cool and handy, and pdnsd because it makes browsing faster when i'm mobile on slow connections. no need to shut it down when i'm on good connections either.10:46
tapas!bind > flaccid_10:47
flaccid_!dns10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
flaccid_crazy10:47
flaccid_!info bind10:47
ubotubind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.7-1 (feisty), package size 966 kB, installed size 2156 kB10:47
flaccid_i thought there was a guide somewhere10:47
fdovingi guess you want bind9.10:47
fdovingthere is a simple guide somewhere on the wiki.10:47
flaccid_fdoving: ok if you say so :)10:47
tapasisn't bind a fully fledged dns server?10:47
fdovingyes.10:47
flaccid_tapas: yes it is, but its simple to config10:48
fdovinghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto10:48
tapasflaccid_: ok, i see10:48
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fdovingfor caching i'd recommend pdnsd. it's cool .)10:48
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flaccid_you don't need it10:48
flaccid_:p10:49
fdovingno, you don't need a caching nameserver.10:49
tapasso when i got bind running locally i override dhcp's name server thing with "localhost"?10:49
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flaccid_bind can be a caching nameserver anyay10:50
fdovingyeah, but it caches to memory only.10:50
tapasi don't see how that fixes the problem though if bind asks the router anyways.. [and caching aside] 10:50
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flaccid_tapas: nameserver 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf10:50
tapasisn't it just one more level of indirection?10:51
flaccid_fdoving: which is fine :)10:51
flaccid_tapas: no you set it up so that it relays from the ISP dns servers directly, not your router10:51
flaccid_no it skips your router10:51
tapasflaccid_: ah well, then i can also just change resolv.conf directly and don't have the hassle of settig up bind10:52
tapas[which seems to hang in its init script anyways] 10:52
flaccid_yes thats what i said in the first place :)10:52
flaccid_but obviously you need to set it static in /etc/network/interfaces and/or disable dhcp server on the router10:52
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tapasnah, i'll just override the dns entries by way of post 2..10:53
flaccid_indeed10:54
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tapasand then i hope that my isp never changes its nameserver ip's10:54
flaccid_i do recommend setting up bind for fun and also future knowledge10:54
tapasbecause my router doesn't allow the forwarding of the ip's it gets via dhcp10:54
flaccid_it shouldn't.10:54
tapaserm, modulo the idiot ' ;)10:55
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tapasIPs :)10:55
flaccid_if its netgear, it has portforwarding and static routers, so it can..10:55
praecoxhey guys10:55
praecoxI've got Kubuntu Feisty. is there any way to get Beryl working on it as it does on Ubuntu Feisty?10:55
flaccid_!beryl10:56
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:56
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flaccid_goto the effects chan10:56
praecoxall right.10:56
praecoxthanks.10:56
flaccid_np10:56
tapasok, thanks for your help guys :)10:56
flaccid_np10:57
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jamiegreetings11:03
jamielooking for help with wifi (ipw3945) which has broken after an update, anyone free and willing?11:04
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Mighty_PoohHey folks what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu ?11:04
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Jucato!kubuntu11:05
tapashttp://kubuntu.org/11:05
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE11:05
JucatoMighty_Pooh: ^^^11:05
Mighty_Poohhehe ok :9 thx11:05
Jucatothe difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is teh difference between KDE and GNOME :)11:05
tapasMighty_Pooh: you can still install gnome on kubuntu though11:05
Mighty_Poohguess kubuntu is what im gonna try.11:05
Mighty_Poohi dont like gnome :)11:06
Mighty_Poohi hoped it was only the kde that was the difference11:06
tapasit's basically jut a difference in preselected packages11:06
Jucatoand the preselected packages are determined by the choice of KDE over GNOME :)11:06
tapas:)11:06
Jucatobut the underlying packages are similar11:06
Mighty_Poohk :) .. Im using gentoo atm. but i must say i have serius problems with cedega and open gl.. i hope kubuntu can help me make it alot easyer.11:07
tapasi wonder when texlive gets updated to the 2007 version11:07
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jcolagroHi all,11:11
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Gabzsreaching a the text in a pdf can you do it in kde ?11:11
tapasGabz: kpdf can do it yeah11:11
JucatoGabz: yes. with kpdf11:11
jcolagrothere is some one who explain me why I am not able to set up the correct display with feisty fawn and I had no problem at all with kubuntu 6.1011:11
jcolagro?11:12
Gabzso i have to open the pdf to do it.... i want to search 20 pdf files for a key word...11:12
tapasjcolagro: not without more information11:12
jcolagroI have an ATI mobility 128 as11:12
jcolagrovido card11:12
jcolagrosorry ..11:12
jcolagroI am not able to set up correctly my video card11:13
jcolagroeven if I choose the right driver11:13
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jcolagroI have a DELL inspiron 40011:13
jcolagro011:13
jcolagro400011:13
jcolagrosorry11:13
tapasdo you get any error messages?11:13
tapashave alook in /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:13
tapas[and search for teh string "EE"] 11:14
jcolagronop .. the screen ..when I leave the installation doing every thing..11:14
jcolagrois splitted in 3 region11:14
jcolagroif I choose .. the correct driver ..11:14
jcolagrothe screen is black11:14
jcolagroI am able to do .. is choosing the installation in safe mode ..11:15
jcolagroand then ... .I have a small squarre as display11:15
jcolagrothe display is correct .. but don't have the screen size11:15
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tapassounds like the wrong resolution set in xorg.conf11:16
jcolagroin safe mode .. it is right .. the resolution is 800 x 60011:16
jcolagroinstead of 1400 x 105011:16
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jcolagrobut as soon as I choose the right driver and the right size ...11:17
tapassorry, i can't really help. you might also check #linuxhelp11:17
jcolagrothe screen is black11:17
jcolagrook thanks11:17
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alex[slx] hey there, I was just wondering what the name of the laptop management software kubuntu uses is11:39
alex[slx] that is, dynamic cpu throttling etc11:39
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Jucatoguidance-power-manager11:41
alex[slx] cool11:41
alex[slx] thanks11:41
Jucato(I think)11:41
Jucato!info guidance-power-manager11:41
ubotuPackage guidance-power-manager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas11:41
Jucatobah... forgot the package name11:41
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Jucatoah11:41
Jucato!info kde-guidance-powermanager11:41
ubotukde-guidance-powermanager: HAL based Power Manager Applet. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 62 kB, installed size 328 kB11:41
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alex[slx] ok11:42
alex[slx] just couldn't remember the name11:43
alex[slx] / didn't know the name11:43
rollerhello11:43
rollerhow i can play mp3 in amarok??11:43
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majnoonanyone else having trouble burning cdroms after upgrade to feisty ??11:43
alex[slx] roller: depends which engine you are using11:44
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ttuuxxx does anyone have a spare business requirement document for a website?11:44
rollerhe didn't want download mp3 support11:44
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Jucatoroller: yes you can, but you need to download the codec for mp3's11:44
rollerwhere and how?11:45
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rolleradept manager said error11:45
Jucatoroller: just install the package "libxine-extracodecs"11:45
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Jucatoroller: from Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs11:45
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rollerhe said BrEAK INSTALL11:46
rollerWHEN IM REQUEST INSTALL11:46
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Jucatoplease don't use caps11:47
rollersorry11:47
Jucatoroller: ok, use this command in Konsole: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs11:48
Jucato(close Adept first)11:48
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rollerE:        /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:49
rollerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:49
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tapasroller: well, is another process using it?11:49
tapas[i.e. some graphical package manager] 11:50
rollerno11:50
rollerrestart computer?11:50
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ernietry sudo before the command11:50
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tapaswell, restatring the computer might help11:51
tapasbut:11:51
tapasthere is a process hholding the lock11:51
rollerusage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v11:51
rollerusage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 11:51
roller            { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }11:51
tapasfinish that process and you should be fine11:51
rollerok please be online after i restart copmputer ok?11:51
tapasno, we all run away now11:52
tapas;)11:52
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rollerok11:52
rollerbye11:52
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NiceGuyUKGreetings.  Anyone able to suggest a home-design/planning app for Kubuntu?11:54
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rollerhello i cant install extra codecs for mp311:59
rollercomp said error11:59
rollerhelp11:59
EruantalonWhat error?12:00
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rolleraa :some updates could not install becouse error in process installation12:02
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josfHi, i'm helping my grandpa getting a computer. I'd like some help deciding if Windows or KDE is better for him12:08
josfMy idea is that with KDE, I can remove all unnecessary icons etc, but on the other hand, more relatives can help him with Windows12:09
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BluesKajhowdy all12:22
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BluesKajhow does one delete directory that was mistakenly created ...i't's empty but it's interfereng with a text file that I should have created instead12:23
BluesKajwith the same filename of course12:24
stittelBluesKaj: Deleting it with Konqueror doesn't work?12:24
stittelBluesKaj: What's the name of the directory?12:24
BluesKaj it's  .asoundrc12:25
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stittelSo it doesn't display in Konqueror because it's hidden/12:25
stittel?12:25
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BluesKajdunno how to delete with konq12:25
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Hobbseeview, show hidden files, iirc12:26
stittelYes, Hobbsee is right.12:26
stittelAlternatively, go to console and type: rm -R ~/.asoundrc12:26
BluesKajoh i see , I think12:26
stittelThis will also do it.12:26
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BluesKajthe -R is like "force" as in -f ?12:28
BluesKajseems to have worked12:29
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Jucatohm.. shouldn't that have been -r only?12:30
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[Flux] rm -r12:30
Jucatoah same thing12:30
stittelBluesKaj: No, the -R removes directories.12:30
[Flux] yeah12:30
[Flux] r and R are same12:30
stittel[Flux] : Yep.12:30
stealthyWhat do I need to view stuff in firefox on, say, ytmnd.com12:31
BluesKajok thx stittel...good to know12:31
[Flux] flash?12:31
stittelAre they also on BSD? I am sure I have a reason why I usually use uppercased R. :)12:31
stealthy[Flux] : umm, sure, I guess12:31
[Flux] there is a flash pacakge you can get through adept/synaptic12:31
stittelstealthy: Sunglasses.12:31
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[Flux] i use swiftfox, so i dont get all the neat plugins, as for some reason they all goto firefox12:32
[Flux] i can use firefox though if i need java/flash12:32
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majnoondoesn't swiftfox use the same plugins as firefox ??12:33
[Flux] yeah12:33
[Flux] which is wierd12:33
stittelytmnd.com seems to need different plugins. My Firefox is complaining about no plugin for audio/wav for example.12:33
[Flux] stittel, get the flash package from adept12:33
stealthy[Flux] : it's telling me I need something for the sound, unknown plugin12:33
[Flux] hmm wierd12:33
Jucatoactually, iirc ytmnd needs audi plugins12:33
[Flux] one sec12:33
Jucatomozilla mplayer plugin12:33
[Flux] it loads in my firefox12:34
[Flux] oh yeah thats it12:34
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majnoonmy <insert favorite BAD words here> cd burner won't work after upgrade :(12:34
stittel[Flux] : Well, thanks for telling me, but I am sure you did me stealthy not me. :)12:34
stittelmajnoon: You are using K3b for burning? What exactly doesn't work?12:35
stittelmajnoon: And "after upgrade" means "after upgrade from Edgy to Feisty" or "after the last security update"?12:35
majnoonit no see any cdr/cd-rw i put in drive12:35
[Flux] http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/12:35
[Flux] you can use that stittel12:35
majnoonedgey to feisty12:35
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[Flux] its old though lol12:36
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stittel[Flux] : Open source flash players are nowhere complete when it comes to implementing Flash9.12:36
[Flux] yeah12:36
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[Flux] i wish ati would open source their drivers lol12:36
stittelmajnoon: You are using K3b for burning?12:36
[Flux] or i should get a newer video card so i wouldnt need fglrx for 3d12:36
stittelmajnoon: What ist the precise error you are getting?12:36
[Flux] lol12:36
majnoonyup12:37
majnoonjus a sec12:37
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stittelmajnoon: Are you trying to burn CD or DVD?12:37
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eddiehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh12:37
majnooncd12:38
majnooni tried cdrecord also12:38
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majnoonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/12:38
majnoonthat the errors i got12:39
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stittelmajnoon: You are 100% sure the CD media is ok? You have tried another CD recordable freshly from the package?12:39
majnooni tried booting into edgey's kernel to see if that fixed it (it didn't)12:40
majnoonyup got a pack of 10012:40
majnoontried 1012:40
stittelmajnoon: Are you member of the "cdrom" groups?12:40
stittel*group12:41
majnoonpretty sure but also did with sudo/kdesu12:41
stittelmajnoon: It didn't work with sudo?12:42
majnoonnope12:42
stittelmajnoon: Is dvd writing working?12:42
majnoonit cd burner dvd reader12:42
majnoondvd's PLAY ok12:43
stittelmajnoon: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=242728 is the only discussion I can find at the moment on your error message.12:43
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stittelmajnoon: Have your tried reinstalling the cdrecord package?12:43
majnoonyou look at the patebin page ??12:43
stittelmajnoon: Yes, of course I did.12:44
stealthyhttp://ytmnd.com/sites/profile/75872812:44
stealthythat's epic right there12:44
stealthyI can't decide which is more so; the fact that my ytmnds once again work, or that someone got the AACS decryption key12:44
majnoonyup even downloaded the ORIGINAL version and installed that too (no diff)12:44
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stittelmajnoon: Have you tried different CD recordables (i. e. from another manufacturer)? Can you burn using Windows?12:47
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stittelmajnoon: If you have two CD drives: Can you burn using a LiveCD?12:48
majnoonno winblows and did try dif manufacturers12:48
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ward_hi i just installed kubuntu 7.04 it works great ! :p12:48
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stittelmajnoon: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/416291f9a1167424/2a31b6fa03483ac1?lnk=st&q=%22wodim%3A+no+disk%22&rnum=1&hl=en#2a31b6fa03483ac112:49
stittelmajnoon: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/f00f19f00d21b99d/52bfdbb97ff051cd?lnk=st&q=%22wodim%3A+no+disk%22&rnum=3&hl=en#52bfdbb97ff051cd12:49
stittelmajnoon: Both bugs are rather recent.12:49
stittelstittel: Do you know German? There also seems to be a very long thread about it on Usenet.12:50
stittelArgghh! I am talking to myself again!12:50
stittelmajnoon: Do you know German? There also seems to be a very long thread about it on Usenet, but it is in German.12:50
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majnoonnein duetch12:51
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stittelmajnoon: Well, I am a German native speaker and can read Dutch quite well, if I try hard. The languages are quite close to each other.12:53
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stittelmajnoon: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user.german/browse_thread/thread/1b250535a08ba071/05fce6ffa689cad7?lnk=st&q=%22wodim%3A+no+disk%22&rnum=2&hl=en#05fce6ffa689cad7 if you want to give it a try.12:54
markcanyone know of a kubuntustudio type project evolving anywhere ?12:55
majnoongoing to try something12:55
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A_Awhats the command to open a program in root12:58
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majnoonsudo <program>01:02
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majnoonthe german page made my eyes water01:03
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stittelmajnoon: Have you tried using the original cdrecord instead of this wodim fork?01:04
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alexiconuhoh.. so i just did a fresh install of feisty... to get all my websites working am i going to have to remake all my mysql databases? :( how is that going to mess everything up for me01:08
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alexiconany way i can import mysql databases from my old edgy install01:08
Lynourealexicon: mysqldump is the traditional way but if you just upgrade to feisty, you databases should be fine.01:09
alexiconnah i did a fresh install01:09
alexiconi'll read up on the mysql dump01:09
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majnoonyup installed cdrtools01:10
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majnoonLynoure: he did a M$ fix01:11
majnoon(reformat,reinstall)01:11
ijacek!cz01:11
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.01:11
Lynouremajnoon: if it is reformatted, and there is no backups, and a new data has been written on top of that, I would not get my hopes up at all01:13
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stittelmajnoon: I am really sorry, nothing else comes to my mind about this.01:14
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majnoonTHAT what alexicon said they DID01:14
Lynourealexicon: Do you have the original databases still somewhere?01:15
alexiconno. i installled fresh onto a new partition. left edgy on another partition01:15
alexiconi have two installs im working with01:15
alexiconjust in case.. i always do that. never reformat my last working / :P01:15
majnoonok THAT shouldn't be a big problem then01:15
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majnoonbig PAIN maybe PROBLEM no01:16
acemo!ati01:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:16
Lynourealexicon: if you do, you could try coping the databases and configurations, and with any luck it will be fine then, after a mysql restart. Or you can boot to the old one, and do a dump, but then you still need to create the users and so on.01:16
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ijacek!cz01:16
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.01:16
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alexiconok Lynoure.  hrm have to find out about the copying @_@01:17
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srecko!hr01:17
ubotuza hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.01:17
alexiconsounds easier to copy than to do the dump. esp as i got so confused when setting up the db or this site in the first place @_@01:18
sayersIt says "Could not find mine type applications/octet-stream"01:18
Lynourealexicon: I'll soon go, but it is not that complicated, either.  But I'm not 100% sure there has not been changes that break it.01:18
hdxxsrecko: ili pitas mene :P01:18
sayersWhat does that mean?01:18
alexiconis it just me or is rails a rea pain in the ...01:18
srecko:P:P01:18
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alexiconi really dont like this new readline .bash_history method...01:19
alexiconcant just go in and grep all the lines im looking for, gotta do them one by one now01:19
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brokennibhw do i chose the correct kernel?01:20
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Lynourealexicon: hmm, to me grepping .bash_history works fine.01:21
Lynourealexicon: and there is also ctrl+g for search on the command line.01:22
alexiconomg it does... wtf01:22
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alexiconi swear last time i tried to grep .bash_history it said it was a bin file01:23
alexiconmaki-chan!01:23
maki?01:23
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alexiconnufffin, ive just got two mates called makiko01:24
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maki:)01:25
user_test01:25
alexicon:)01:25
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epimethuser_: you have failed the test, please try again in 5 minute01:26
epimeths01:26
ijacekhi :) why doesn't go shutdown my ubuntu with shutdown button ?01:26
epimethijacek: what shutdown button?  on the k-menu or on the keyboard?01:27
alexiconLynoure: was database replication the other method you were describing?01:27
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ijacekepimeth kmenu - menu01:28
user_Kubuntu 7.04 When 'switch user' login then logout screen is dia01:28
user_disabled - why01:29
user_epimeth:...aha....01:30
user_then ctrl-alt-f7 goes back to original login01:31
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epimethijacek: what happens when you K -01:31
epimetherg01:31
epimethijacek: what happens when you K -> Log Out -> Turn off ?01:32
fdovingthe machine usually shuts down.01:32
epimethfdoving: don't interrupt! :-p01:32
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testmanhi folks01:33
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epimethfdoving: he says his computer won't shut down... so I want to know exactly what happens01:33
majnoonMaxdamantus: STILL trying to figure out the cd burner problem :(01:33
ijacekepimeth: black screen01:33
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ijacekepimeth ubuntu - kubuntu Edgy - FF same problem01:34
mikkaelim trying to compile a kernel (my very first one), can i use this howto and change 2.6.20 with 2.6.21 ? -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31115801:35
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Maxdamantusmajnoon, I don't know how I can help you sorry.01:35
user_ijacek : I sometimes get this too - blackscreen and doesn't switch pc off - don't know why01:36
fdovingmikkael: looks good. yes.01:36
MaxdamantusAre you sure the CD isn't finalised already?01:36
user_to01:36
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ijaceki have this problem any time01:36
testmani have a big problem: i have a wifi network with wpa2 encryption. in my laptop's knetworkmanager this is always displayed as a WEP encrypted network. when i configure the network manually via "connection to other network" then it hangs at 28% progress. my kubuntu version is 7.04. does anybody know what to do?01:37
ijacek*always01:37
user_ijacek - for me it happens 1 in 4 to 5 times01:37
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marcella_hi01:39
marcella_I have a problem01:39
marcella_./configure: line 21429: syntax error near unexpected token `OPENOBEX,openobex'01:39
marcella_./configure: line 21429: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OPENOBEX,openobex)'01:39
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majnooni'm leaning toward something being wrong with the generic scsi driver(s)01:42
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llutzhi01:43
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_StefanS_ijacek: I haven't got that problem on either of my 2 laptops running feisty01:47
_StefanS_ijacek: what wireless card?01:47
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dthackertestman: are you seeing errors in the logs about not being able to load microcode?01:50
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acemoanyone can help me installing drivers for the X700 mobile?01:50
dthacker!anyone01:51
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:51
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MaxdamantusGoogle is your friend.01:51
Maxdamantus!google01:52
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux01:52
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acemono its not.01:52
pagacemo, x700 = ati?01:52
acemopag: yes, but one that is known to give trouble with linux01:52
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ijacek_StefanS_: i have no wireles card01:53
pagacemo, I don't know about that particular model, but I've heard, tha ATIs older than x800 actually work better with open codecs (which are enabled by default)01:53
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acemopag: thanks for the tip.. im off to google for how to enable the opensource drivers again ^^01:55
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pagacemo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  is probably one of the easiest ways :)01:56
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acemopag: thanks thats alot smaller as the 20 steps tutorial i just found :P01:56
ijacekif you have x700 x800 try use fglrx driver01:57
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acemoijacek: i tried installing the fglrx.. but at the lest step (the aticonfig --something) it just removes my xorg.conf01:58
anessenHey, anybody know how to make applications start up minimized to the tray? I'm trying to set up my autostart applications, and don't want them cluttering the screen on startup.01:59
ijacekacemo: write fglrx into xorg.conf manualy01:59
ijacekon my x800 not work ati or radeon driver :(02:00
acemoijacek: lemme find the command it was that screwed up..02:00
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A_Aroot@ash-desktop:/home/ash# sudo konqueror02:01
A_AXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server02:01
A_AXlib: No protocol specified02:01
A_Akonqueror: cannot connect to X server :0.002:01
acemoijacek: sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv02:01
A_Ay is it doing that02:01
acemothat command just removed my xorg.conf02:01
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benjaminhi I connected a firewire disk to my kubuntu, this works exept that all cuple of minutes the firewire disk shutdown. Anyone an idea?02:01
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pagA_A, alt+f2 -> kdesu konqueror  that sould work better02:01
ijacekacemo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  ........make new config02:02
A_Acheers02:02
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ijacekacemo: or find you backup config in /etc/X11/02:03
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acemoijacek: i already putted back the backup before i opened this irc02:03
ijacekacemo :))02:04
qxijacek : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/10510202:04
acemoijacek: tried the dpkg-reconfigure command and choosing fglrx.. hope that will do something...02:04
ijacekacemo: rewrite ati or radeon to fglrx02:05
mikkaeluhm any ideas how much time a amd athlon 2400 will need to compile the kernel ?02:05
qxtest202:06
|infinity|mikeont: something about 0.5 - 1 hour?02:06
mikkaelokay thanks02:06
acemoijacek: after choosing fglrx in the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg i get this.. glxinfo | grep direct02:06
acemoijacek: direct rendering: yes02:06
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ijacekhh02:07
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acemoholy cow 80 fps..02:07
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acemoon this game in windows only got 30-40 fps02:08
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acemoijacek, pag: thanks alot02:08
ijacekacemo: glxgears -printfps02:09
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acemo3500 fps average02:09
ijacekacemo: 28313 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5655.214 FPS with Xgl + Beryl02:10
Tm_Tremember, it's not a benchmark02:10
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ijacekacemo: without Xgl i have 850002:10
ijacekTm_T: i know it02:10
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Timsenanessen: you can create a file in you ~/kde/Autostart and add the progs you want to start automatically after login02:12
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korobaseHI all.I install the wine.But I can't use ie6.02:13
korobase!ie4linux02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
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korobaseand when I run the ies4linux,It always show me the help imformation.02:14
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korobaseHelp me please.02:14
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testmanwhat is the difference between the alternate and the desktop iso image of kubuntu?02:24
pagtestman, desktop install is graphical (and also works as live-cd), alternate is textbased, so it's for low-memory computers02:25
testmanok, thx pag02:25
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user_hi02:27
paghello02:27
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Aaronfromchinaany shortcut to switch desktop 1/2 on KDE?02:30
apolctrl+F1 or ctrl+f202:30
apolctrl+tab to navigate across desktops02:31
Aaronfromchinaapol: thanks. :)02:31
Aaronfromchinaapol: ctrl + tab doesn't work. Do you mean alt + tab?02:31
apolalt+tab is to navigate across windows02:32
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apolctrl+tab to navigate across desktops02:32
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Aaronfromchinaapol: I press ctrl + tab, nothing happened. :(02:33
apol:S02:33
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apolI don't know02:33
apolit works for me in every machine I have02:34
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Aaronfromchinaapol: sound weird. alt + tab, ctrl + Fn works fine. just ctrl + tab does NOT. :(02:36
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alexiconwhats the lib for ripping to mp3 again??02:37
alexiconlame?02:37
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user_Aaronfromchina : check in system settings keyboard shortcuts02:37
nummer9moin02:38
alexiconhi02:38
user_Aaronfromchina : k ->systemsettings->keyboard/mouse->keyboardshortcuts->walk-through-windows02:39
Aaronfromchinauser_: I define ctrl + tab for navigate desktop. It works! thank you . :)02:39
penguin42I've got a LUKS encrypted partition - is there a sensible way to make it appear on my kubuntu desktop with something that asks me for a password?02:39
see-galexicon: yes, the lame is commonly used for ripping to mp302:39
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alexiconhrm ive got it installed but soundjuicer doesnt want to let me rip to mp302:40
see-gdoes anyone know how to restart a crashed application automatically? (my ktorrent keeps on crashing every couple of hours...)02:40
user_Aaronfromchina : great - have u chaged it before? ( to make it not work)02:40
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Aaronfromchinauser_: I don't think so. :(02:41
user_Aaronfromchina : oh well it works now :)02:41
Aaronfromchinauser_: ya. :)02:41
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ward_how is that program called ? that when you press F12 a shell drops down ?02:42
llutzward_: yakuake02:43
Jucatoward_: yakuake02:43
ward_thx :D02:43
llutzwith a fantastic new 2.8-beta1 version :)02:43
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penguin42I'm finding amarok on kubuntu skips occasionally while I've never heard Rhythymbox on ubuntu skip02:44
penguin42anyone else heard the same?02:44
ward_yay bleeding edge! :)02:44
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stratman4300i haven't seen any problems like that with amarok....  course i have 3 GB of RAM too   :)02:44
see-gnot for me, penguin42 ... what's the definition of "occasionally" in this case?02:44
alexiconcan anyone confirm for me whether it actually works to transfer all of /var/lib/mysql from one machine to another and have all your mysql dbs work?02:44
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korobase!mozilla02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
see-gwell, I had problems with amarok skipping when I hammered my CPU with a high priority-number crunching...02:45
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penguin42see-g: Well maybe a couple of times an hour?02:47
penguin42see-g: I'm not doing anything particularly heavy - it's a dual 1.66GHz Core 2 laptop with 1GB ram02:48
alexiconanyone here use mpd? whats your favourite scrobbler??02:48
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see-gpenguin42: I suppose I'll have to tell you "works for me"02:49
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penguin42see-g: Yeh that's fair enough02:49
see-ga quick and dirty workaround might be reducing amarok's niceness02:50
binks_alexicon: you should use mysqladmin to back up you db then restore it into you new db02:50
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alexiconmysqladmin?02:50
alexiconok02:50
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tucoI need help with the install of Call of Duty using Wine. Thanks02:51
see-g(assuming that the audio files are intact and the skipping is caused by some other process "stealing" amarok's cpu time)02:51
penguin42see-g: Yeh I could try that - I could also try killing off it's visualisation stuff - I keep dropping its frame rate down02:51
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penguin42see-g: I do wonder whether it is a lack of buffering though; amarok is using less than 2% CPU02:52
penguin42hmm - that does jump up at the start of a track02:52
stratman4300question....  just did a vanilla install of Kubuntu on my laptop....    how would i make the bluetooth services NOT start at boot time???02:52
binks_alexicon: http://codex.wordpress.org/Backing_Up_Your_Database02:52
alexiconcheers binks_02:53
pagalexicon, for mpd there's mpdscribble, it works quite nice :)02:53
alexiconyep just installed it :)02:53
tucoAnybody can help with Call of duty and wine folks please?02:53
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see-gnow that you mention it ... thanks for reminding me of what seemed strange to me about amarok (I've never seen anything to change the buffer size)02:54
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penguin42see-g: Which makes me wonder if it isn't using much!  Although I think it is possibly because it's just a frontend to another sound lib - I can see it says it is using the xine engine02:55
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penguin42see-g: I also wonder if any buffer it does have empties at the end of a track and perhaps it is more susceptible to a skip near the start of a track02:56
llutzstratman4300: sudo update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove02:56
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AaronfromchinaKTorrent is eventually crashed. Here is the error message. Any idea?02:58
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Aaronfromchinahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19607/02:58
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fdovingAaronfromchina: feisty?03:00
Aaronfromchinafdoving: yes. feisty.03:00
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marcella_aclocal.m4:279: /usr/bin/m4: Cannot open tcl.m4: No such file or directory03:01
marcella_autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 103:01
see-gpenguin42: hmm ... I'll probably not notice it skipping because of an emptied buffer at the end of a track since I have crossfading enabled so it has about 2 seconds to fill the buffer before the next track actually starts03:01
fdovingAaronfromchina: known bug, i installed this: http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/2.1.4/feisty/ - works for me. a fix is in beeing prepared afaik.03:01
stratman4300Thanks llutz03:01
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penguin42see-g: Interesting - I don't have crossfade enabled; I have fade-out on03:02
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Aaronfromchinafdoving: thanks. I'll have a try. I'm curious that what the problem is supposed?03:03
see-gpenguin42: I have crossfading and fade out enabled since anything like a sudden stop of the music simply hurts my ears ;)03:03
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fdovingAaronfromchina: something with DHT iirc.03:03
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see-g...so disabling DHT might be a workaround as well?03:04
penguin42see-g: Haha yes; but yeh I'm sensitive to the skips03:04
fdovingsee-g: not sure, can't hurt to try.03:04
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see-gfdoving: uhm ... I just won't be able to notice the difference - I come back to the computer after some hours and ktorrent is crashed or not...03:05
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penguin42see-g: Hmm on the xine gui it has a 'number of audio buffers' setting03:05
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see-gwhere do I find the xine gui?03:06
fdovingsee-g: i have been seeding the kubuntu dvd iso with my ktorrent for 5-6 days without crashes after installing the 2.1.4 package i posted the link to.03:06
penguin42see-g: apt-get install xine-ui03:07
fdovingsee-g: in the xine-ui package,03:07
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bentob0xhas anybody used curlftpfs here?03:10
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Aaronfromchinafdoving: the deb you link to is ktorrent 2.1.4. Is it quite old version? I dpkg the deb, and start ktorrent again, the version does not change to 2.1.4 (it's 3.5.6)03:15
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fdovingAaronfromchina: 2.1.4 is the current release.03:16
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amcrhello.03:16
Aaronfromchinafdoving: you're right! :) I made a stupid mistake to check KDE version. :)03:17
amcris there any way to install kubuntu i386 over an AMD64 Kubuntu installation without using the CD, I mean by changing repositories and reinstall all?03:17
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fdovingamcr: it can be done, but it's one of those 'if you have to ask, you probably don't want to try to do it'-things. it's complicated and will probably fail and break your system.03:19
binks_ok in ktorrent webui setup it asks for path for phpwhere would that be03:19
binks_path to php03:19
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see-gfdoving: well, it's not that hard ... it's just ... one mistake and you're screwed...03:20
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fdovingbinks_: install php5-cli package.03:20
amcrfdoving: I wanted to do it remotely but I think I'll have and reinstall everythin with the CD but without formating.03:20
lupuldoes anyone know why konqueror suddnetly died? forever03:20
lupuland if i start it again it blocks my pc03:20
see-g(ok, so is working in the shell in general, as everyone who did rm -rf / by mistake can confirm ;))03:20
see-glupul: if someone hacked you, you might want to ask that guy/gal...     otherwise you might be successful in fixing that with dpkg-reconfigure konqueror03:21
lupulnoone hacked me03:21
lupulthanks i'll try the reconfigure03:21
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binks_fdoving: ok i installed that now what goes in the path box in ktorrent03:25
binks_fdoving: is it /etc/bin/php503:26
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see-ganyway, I'll get back to work now ... bye03:28
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fdovingbinks_: doesn't it detect it automatically?03:29
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fdovingbinks_: /usr/bin/php5 i guess.03:29
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lupulok. so konqueror dies only when i'm browsing my hdd. which could be the problem?03:30
lupulweb browsing works fine03:30
marcella_./configure: line 21429: syntax error near unexpected token `OPENOBEX,openobex'03:30
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marcella_help me03:31
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ubuntuhey03:33
ubuntusomeone could help me to install the kubuntu?03:33
marcella_hi ubuntu03:33
ubuntuhey03:33
ubuntusomeone coult help me?03:33
marcella_can you help me03:33
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marcella_?03:33
ubuntui need to03:33
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marcella_./configure: line 21429: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OPENOBEX,openobex);'03:33
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ubuntui need help to03:33
ubuntuhow i install kubuntu without unisntall windows xp?03:34
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smozeis there an easy way to install glib??03:35
ubuntui need helo03:35
ubuntuhelp03:35
Lynoureubuntu: If I recall right you just make sure there is enough disk space for both, and pop in the like cd and then choose install. I think the installer can resize partitions.03:35
ubuntuwhat option i choose03:35
ubuntuusing the large free space?03:35
Lynoureubuntu: I do not have it in front of me, so I cannot give you very detailed help. But that one sounds good. Always do backups before installing new OSes, if you can, though.03:36
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ubuntuok03:37
ubuntui will do that03:37
ubuntulets try03:38
ubuntuxD03:38
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smoze!glib03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
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stefan__hello all :)03:45
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stefan__I want to create an ssh account with homedir but only read only to this homedirectory03:46
stefan__how can I do this03:46
stefan__?03:46
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kalorinuh03:47
kalorinmake the directory owned by root03:47
kalorinand set all the files in it read only?03:47
stefan__ist an ssh access to a webdirectory where the user ha onl read access03:47
kalorinor owned by another user03:47
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kalorinssh -> term, webdirectory -> web content03:48
stefan__?03:48
kalorinyeah ?03:48
stefan__yes03:48
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stefan__hmm. how can I do this?03:49
kalorinno clue03:50
kalorinwhat you're asking about isn't making a bit of sense to me03:50
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jimGood afternoon all (well here anyway)03:51
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jimI was wondering if I could get some advice03:51
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jimI would like to syncronise a folder that I have created on my desktop with one I have on a windows server, is there a way to do this?03:52
fulat2kstefan__: prolly u can define what you mean by webdirectory03:52
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bobstrojim:  rsync can do that.03:53
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bobstroricardo:  or unison03:53
jimbobstro: is it easy to set up on the folder?03:54
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bobstrojim:  well, there is a gui for unison. not the most friendly thing, but not overly complex. you'll need ssh running on the "other" machine.03:55
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jimbobstro: just found a tutorial online. Will have a look at that. Many thanks for the pointer03:55
bobstrojim:  good luck with it! i use rsync frequently, unison's better for two-way sync.03:55
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drknshello04:03
drknsi need help installing atk04:03
drknsi am getting this error04:03
drknsits sayin pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.9, but GLIB (2.12.11)04:03
drknswas found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best04:04
drkns*** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error04:04
drkns*** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing04:04
drkns*** /etc/ld.so.conf.04:04
drkns????04:04
drknsat first it couldnt find any glib now it says it has two versions04:04
drknsanybody know how to solve this problem?04:05
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maltaethiron!update04:09
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:09
jimjust a quickie - is all that I need to play dvds the libdvdcss2 and Win32codecs? or is there another download that I should get for Kaffine to work?04:09
epimethjim:04:09
epimethI'm fairly certain that thats it04:09
epimethdrkns: I'm not sure, but what I would do is remove 2.12.904:10
jimepimeth: many thanks, looking for them now!04:10
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blekos_hi, i want to edit my bashrc file to add a couple of alias, where can i find it?04:10
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llutzblekos_: ~/.bashrc04:11
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epimethjim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?highlight=%28dvd%2904:11
drknsepimeth when i try to remove glib then the whole things is removed04:11
drknskubuntu becomes unusable04:11
ubuntuh' all04:11
drknsif there is another way to remove the older version of glib without breaking the sys let me know pls04:12
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epimethdrkns: I'll check...04:12
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binks_fdoving: can you test to see if you can see my login screen www.binks120.homelinux.net:808004:12
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binks_sorry its just http://binks120.homelinux.net:808004:13
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epimethjim: and, I think this one is more recent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%2904:13
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drknsIf GLIB is installed04:14
drkns*** but not in the same location as pkg-config add the location of the file04:14
drkns*** glib-2.0.pc to the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH04:14
drknsanyone knows how to do this??04:14
epimethdrkns: where is this from?04:14
drknsthis error comes up when i try to compile atk 1.12.304:14
drknsi am trying to compile gimp04:15
binks_can anyone test to see if they get to my login screen on http://binks120.homelinux.net:8080 please04:15
epimethand how the hell did blinks_ quit without a quit message?04:15
epimethoh.. heh04:15
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epimethbinks_: lol04:15
epimeththought it was blinks04:15
binks_lol04:15
epimethbinks_: I can see it...04:15
binks_thanks epimeth04:15
epimethits the ktorrent web interface04:15
binks_yes04:16
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binks_just set up the homlinux site04:16
drknsok thanks anyways people04:16
drknsbye04:16
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epimethbinks_: and for a really awesome homelinux site, check out Jinzora04:16
epimethbinks_: now *that* is serious coolness04:16
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epimethdrkns: wait04:17
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epimethdrkns: I want to help... give me a sec04:17
epimeth:-)04:17
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blekos_do i need to restart my machine in order for aliases to be enabled? ( i edited bashrc)04:18
maltaethironhow do i figure out which version of kubuntu i have?04:18
LjL!version > maltaethiron    (maltaethiron, see the private message from Ubotu)04:19
pagblekos_, just restart the konsole afaik.04:19
llutzmaltaethiron: lsb_release -id04:19
blekos_how do i do that?04:19
maltaethironthanks04:19
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binks_epimeth: is jinzora in repos04:20
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binks_looks cool04:20
yonkeltronanyone have a thinkpad t60? i'm having some issues with my hardware mixer04:20
pagblekos_, well.. if you don't have konsole open, then you can't (and therefore don't have to) restart it04:20
epimethdrkns: whats the output of $dpkg -l *glib*04:20
epimeth?04:20
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epimethbinks_: dunno...04:22
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jimany ideas where I can get 64 bit win32codecs - many thanks04:23
chijinthere's no way04:23
chijinyou can get the 32bit ones though04:24
chijin+ 64-bit vlc can run wmv-files04:24
binks_epimeth: sorry im lazy i should just check :);)04:24
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pagjim, from medibuntu. they're called w64codecs (at least such package exists, I think it the one you need)04:25
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jimpag: Noticed that medibuntu was available...just trying to add them to my list.......at least its a straight up learning curve...lol04:27
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epimethbinks_: doesn't look like it, but it seems to be a slice of pie to install04:27
epimethdrkns: you still here?04:27
epimethjim: no... a straight up learning curve would be one that can't be climbed ;-)04:28
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jimepimeth: ;) true04:31
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Aaronfromchinafdoving: KTorrent has been working fine for + 1 hour. :) Much better than before (<15 min.).  thanks. :)04:38
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CVirusIsn't there documentation like this one for Kubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/ ?04:40
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dfeserhi!04:43
dfeserdoes someone use authentication against AD in feistsy?04:43
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dfesersomeone using samba for ad auth here?05:05
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matsits easier to ask about you problem and not if anyone uses it ;)05:05
dfeseri cant login if samba and winbind have autostart05:06
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dfeserif i disable this and start winbind and after that samba...it works immediately05:07
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ward_what do i need to do in order to have flash 9 on an amd64?05:07
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epimethdfeser: set winbind to start before samba... check out /etc/rcS.d05:08
Yorokobiward_: are you using a 32 or 64 bit OS05:08
dfeserepimeth shall i put winbind into rcS.d ?05:10
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stratman4300<Ward> try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:11
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stratman4300<ward> it's a pretty easy howto05:11
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dfeserepimeth does rcS.d get started before rc2.d ?05:12
fulat2kany idea how i can change how i can change the file selection behaviour in konqy?05:13
llutzdfeser: use update-rc.d to change starting-order05:13
Jucatofulat2k: what do you mean?05:14
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epimethdfeser: rcS.d runs first05:15
dfeserworks!05:15
epimethhah05:15
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epimethyour welcome :-)05:16
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javihola05:16
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gilsanyone here willing to help with a SSH issue?05:17
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Yorokobigils: what is the issue?05:17
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gilsYorokobi:nothing major. I just want to know if there is some way of getting the system to notify me when there is an active incoming ssh connection05:19
fulat2kJucato: right now if i want to start selecting multiple files, i press the shift button.  but it sticks to this mode until i press esc.  anyway i can make the multi select lses sticky05:19
gilsyou know. like when remote desktop logs in....it notifies you of the connection05:19
gilsi want the same to happen when someone logs into my desktop from the office.05:20
gilsusing ssh05:20
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Yorokobigils: SSH records connections in /var/log/auth.log; you can use something like logwatch/logcheck to monitor the auth.log ... ossec will do it as well05:20
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llutzgils: or maybe with an iptables ALERT-rule...05:20
gilsyes05:21
gilsi was thinking about the ip tables. Not sure how to use alert rule, but will try to play with that, thanks05:21
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KartiHi all, having trouble playing dvds with Kaffine - I have installed libdvdcss2 and win64codecs but still it fails to recognise or find dvd - source can't be read and no plugin found - any ideas would be appreciated05:25
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epimethKarti: best I can do is point you here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?highlight=%28dvd%2905:26
epimethKarti:  and here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%2905:27
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LucidFoxwhat is the default Qt theme used in Kubuntu - Plastik or Lipstik?05:32
LucidFox(I don't remember)05:32
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stimpy_chhi all.. may somone able to help me with a problem using knetworkmanager?05:34
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JucatoLucidFox: depends. it was Plastik but in Feisty 7.04 it is Polyester now05:34
LucidFoxhmm05:34
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stimpy_chsince last reboot knetworkmanager seems nomore know anything about my wireless divecess on my notebook05:35
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LucidFoxhmm, Polyester looks somewhat Vista-ish05:36
LucidFoxand Qt4?05:36
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Jucatowhat about qt4?05:38
Jucato(polyester is very configurable, but the default "theme" is a modified glassy look)05:39
LucidFoxdoes Kubuntu set a default Qt4 theme?05:41
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Jucatohm... no05:41
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Jucatoor not that I'm aware of. try running speedcrunch to check. I'm sure it's using Plastique05:42
ubuntuhi05:42
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binks_ubuntu: hi m8 choose a nic m805:42
leo__!beryl05:42
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:42
DexterFtrying to inst 7.04, on step 4 it scans the disks, but then nothing more happens.05:42
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DexterFpointers, anyone?05:43
LucidFoxwow, SpeedCrunch is indeed Qt4 in Feisty05:43
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LucidFoxis there a list of apps ported to Qt4 in Feisty?05:43
JucatoLucidFox: yes it is. and so is the hardware database app05:43
LucidFoxcool05:43
Jucatonot sure if the kde-guidance control modules are using PyQt4 or still PyQt305:44
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LucidFoxyes, it seems plastique is the default05:45
LucidFox(it doesn't automatically respect the Qt3 font settings, though)05:45
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tdnI am trying to set up encrypted root filesystem with LUKS/cryptsetup. I have installed a base system on sda6 (2400MB partition), used sda2 (300MB partition) as /boot; then I have luksFormat'ed sda5 (50GB partition) and made an ext3 filesystem on that; then I copied everything from sda6 to sda5 and edited /etc/fstab to use /dev/mapper/root for / and edited /etc/crypttab to set up sda5 as /dev/mapper/root; then I ran update-initrd. Now I cannot boot to my encr05:52
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DexterFnvm, setup just cont'ed, but took ages05:55
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servo_hello!05:59
epimethwhats a good calculator program?  specifically all the functionality available in the "scientific" mode of window's calc06:00
Jucatoepimeth: speedcrunch (installed by default)06:00
epimethno dec -> hex06:01
epimeth:-)06:01
epimeththats what I specifically need right this second :-)06:01
Jucatothere isn't? I thought there was06:01
epimethwhat up Jucato?06:01
Jucatohm.. how about kcalc?06:01
DexterFi got two swap partitions on this box, installer wants to use both. how do I keep it from doing so?06:01
JucatoDexterF: don't mount one of them. (why do you have 2 swaps anyway?)06:02
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llutzepimeth: kcalc does06:02
DexterFJucato: two hard disks, two separate installations06:02
DexterFwhat do you mean dont mount, im in the installer06:03
epimethJucato: llutz: cheers guys06:03
epimethalways a pleasure :-)06:03
JucatoDexterF: ah... did you know that you could use the same swap for different installations, even on different hard disks? but anyway, in the step where you get to choose where you mount different partitions, just choose not to mount one of the swap partitions06:03
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DexterFswaps son't have mount points in the traditional sense06:04
epimethhrm... if I open an image in gwenviewer and right click -> external tools -> KolourPaint I get an error... attempting to install KolourPaint tells me it doesn't exist... anybody know what the package is called?06:04
DexterF*don't06:04
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DexterFand yes I know I can "recycle" swap, but I don't want to for a couple of reasons06:05
JucatoDexterF: hm.. ok.. I haven't recently done an install using the Desktop CD so I can't really be certain. but on  the alternate install CD, you still can choose to "mount" a swap partition06:05
DexterFhm. well, ok, I guess I'll let 'er rip with these options and then kick the other swap from fstab for now06:06
Jucatoepimeth: it's available in the universe repositories06:07
Jucatoepimeth: you could also change kolourpaint to krita if you want06:07
DexterFdoes kub integrate nicely into existing grubs?06:07
Jucato(or don't want to install kolourpaint)06:07
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epimethJucato: how is kolourpaint?  do you like it / prefer krita06:12
epimeth?06:12
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epimethJucato: I have all repos in my list... it just hit my that I capitalized the K and P... heh o.o;06:12
Jucatoepimeth: I haven't used it at all. But I guess that it's not as "full" as Krita06:13
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epimethalls I need is to see the size of a selected area, a dropper to pull a color, and a way to check the RGB vals of whatever color I pulled :-)06:14
Jucatohm..?06:14
epimethmspaint, in other words :-)06:14
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epimethyea... web developer :-p06:14
Jucatodoesn't gwenview already have that feature? or digikam's editor06:14
epimethnot that I found (gwenview) never used digikam06:14
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Jucatoboth are installed by default06:15
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epimethI know... just haven't used digicam :-)06:15
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epimethanyhoo... time to leave the office.... friggin 7:15 pm....06:15
epimethwe'll chat later...06:15
epimethadios06:15
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rafalhi all06:17
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scorpkinghi06:19
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UKESN|Javaxis there any way i can get flash and java working on AMD64 ?06:20
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Jucato!flash6406:20
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava06:20
UKESN|Javaxty06:20
Benj1huhu, ich hab gerade versucht nen neuen kernel zu backen, hab die vanilla-sources benutzt, aber jetzt startet der kubuntu nicht mehr, der ldt den kernel richtig aber nach dem root filesystem check bleibt der stehen und macht garnichts mehr06:21
llutz!de| Benj106:22
ubotuBenj1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:22
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Benj1oh, sry, haven't noticed :D :D06:22
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nosrednaekim!dvdcss06:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
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nosrednaekim!dvd06:24
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:24
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agresorhello how to stop sounds on KDE ?06:27
agresorWhen i open something.. or close.. i getting sounts06:27
agresor:S06:27
agresorit is so boring...06:27
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Jucatoagresor: in System Settings -> Notifications -> System Notifications, choose "The KDE Window Manager" from the Event source drop down list at the top and turn of the sounds that you don't like to hear06:29
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aroAnyone else have issues with kubuntu not shutting down / rebooting properly ?06:31
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dbedaname06:31
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dbedanahello test mic06:32
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dbedanajoin/ room 23406:33
agresorJucato,  thank you.06:33
agresorhow to make kde Transparent ?06:33
aroWhat do you mean?06:33
JackPhilwhere is the virtual filesystem is configured?06:34
aroThe windows?06:34
dbedanahow to change channels?06:34
JackPhilsuch as lrm procbususb06:34
JackPhilthey show in /etc/mtab, but not in /etc/fstab06:34
arodbedana, /join06:34
dbedanaty06:34
dbedanacan u give me a cool channel to chat?06:35
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arodbedana, I don't know any, sorry06:35
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D1S4ST3R_hello06:35
dbedanaalright, il juz experiment06:35
D1S4ST3R_!de06:35
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:35
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larasho kubuntu dapper dake..come faccio a portarlo a ubuntu 7.04 tramite shell'06:42
AFaithanyone from romania ?06:42
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pheonixanybody has a kubuntu 7.04 dvd06:43
kekko_how to skip gnome loading at startup and enter straight into a shell?06:43
pheonixthe fiesty fawn version06:43
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AFaithor what do you know about speedtouch 330 in feisty ?06:43
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zuccoHi, I made upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty, then my cdrom stops to work. What can I do to solve this issue ?06:44
pheonixy dotn you use dvds06:45
pheonixy dont you use dvds06:45
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xerox_hi, how to stop x, going to install nvidia but x autostart if stoped w ctr alt backspace06:45
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pheonixyou dont have a dvd drive06:45
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zuccoits a combo drive: cdrom rw and dvd reader06:46
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snowdonkeyHi!  Quick question -- does Kubuntu support multiprocessing?  Can I install it on an Intel Duo Core system for example?06:46
pheonixso use a dvd instead of a cd06:46
pheonixyes y not06:46
pheonixyou can06:46
snowdonkeyGreat, thanks.06:47
zucco# grep dvd /etc/fstab : none results06:47
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zucco# grep cdrom /etc/fstab06:47
zucco/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       006:47
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lupuldoes anyone why konqueror suddently dies when i try to  browse my computer? on web browsing works fine06:48
zuccobut /dev/hdc don't exist. I try to create with mknod, but can't mount cd either06:48
pheonixno idea then06:48
pheonixyou want to install06:48
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pheonixnvidia06:49
lupuldoes anyone know why konqueror suddently dies when i try to  browse my computer?(and it blocks my pc too) on web browsing works fine06:49
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pheonixbut what you want to install graphic card or something06:49
zuccoSOLVED: changed /dev/hdc to /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab06:49
xerox_yep nvidia driver but need to stop x fist :)06:49
pheonixya06:50
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pheonixzucco: you got it06:50
pheonix?06:50
pheonixlupul:what you want06:50
zuccoyes, it's worked, I got help in #ubuntu06:50
A_Faithhey i've asked you something ... no one knows ?06:51
lupulwhat do you mean by what i want?06:51
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zuccopheonix, thanks06:51
lupuli'd like to know a way to reset konqueror06:51
pheonixhey is ok06:51
lupulor...06:51
lupulwhatever goes wrong06:51
pheonixzucco : who helped you tuxmaniac or g0sub06:51
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pheonixlupul:when does your konquerer dies06:52
zuccopheonix, stefg06:52
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pheonixok06:52
lupulwhen i try to access my hdd06:52
lupulmy data is mounted in /stuff06:53
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pheonixdid you try changing the nam06:53
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pheonixdid you try changing the name06:53
pheonixi mean remained it06:53
pheonixwhich distro you have06:54
lupulwhen i enter /stuff in the browsing line it blocks06:54
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pheonixtry renaming stuff06:55
pheonixwhich distro you have06:55
lupulfeisty06:55
lupulbut yesterday worked fine06:55
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lupulthen i changed the icons theme and from then on....06:56
pheonixya06:56
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pheonixit happens06:56
pheonixtry to go back to defaults06:56
lupulim using now nautilus but suxx in front of konq06:57
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pheonixhmm ya06:57
pheonixtry to go back to defaults06:57
lupuli did dpkg-reconfigure konqueror06:57
lupulbut still the same06:57
pheonixubuntu or kubuntu06:57
pheonix?06:57
lupulkubuntu06:57
pheonixdid you install it from dvd06:57
lupulyes06:57
pheonixok06:57
lupulubuntu doesn't even start.06:58
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lupulthe bootable cd doesn't load06:58
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pheonixin ubuntu06:58
pheonix?06:58
pheonixlupul:did you get my pm06:58
lupulyes i did06:59
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lupulbut i can't reply06:59
lupulcause i have to register06:59
pheonixreply then06:59
pheonixover it self06:59
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pheonixokl07:00
pheonixthen whats there in registering07:00
lupuli'm trying to reply but bot doesn't aloow me07:00
lupul*allow07:00
lupul0:00]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )07:00
pheonixtype /msg NickServ REGISTER yourusername yourpassword07:01
lupuli just saw that in the faq07:01
lupulthanks07:01
pheonixok07:01
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|ericsson|Anyone could name a recommended FTP client for Kubuntu...07:04
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firecrotch|ericsson|: Personally, I like to use Konqueror for FTP07:07
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alexander_!de07:10
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:10
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Racchiohi there!07:11
freejackwas ist los?07:11
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firecrotchhi, Racchio07:11
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chijin|ericsson|: konqueror07:12
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atidemciao!07:12
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RacchioCan someone help me with La Fonera's port forwarding? I can't find any howto I can apply to my case. I've a pppoe connection and a dynamic IP. I'd like to setup La Fonera to do the proper port forwarding for eMule and such...but I don't know how! :D Thanks!07:13
Racchiohi firecrotch ;)07:13
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RacchioCiao atidem!07:13
Racchioit's probably a simple task but I know nothing about networking ;-)07:14
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rdallarmianybody in here has experience with authdeamond?07:17
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rizomahi07:17
Racchiohi rizoma :)07:17
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atidemhello Racchio07:18
Racchiohello again atidem :)07:19
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Racchiohow's going? :D07:19
rizomasomeone know if nautilusntfstools works with kde?07:19
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viktoris there a way to disable feature that adds numbers and leters to links in konqueror when i press ctrl?07:21
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coreymon77is nobody talking?07:24
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bobstrocoreymon77:  just an awkward silence. you have a question?07:25
coreymon77nope07:25
RacchioCan someone help me in setting up La Fonera's port forwarding so that aMule could work at his best? Tnx :)07:25
bobstrojust stare at the ceiling07:25
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Racchioatidem: sorry...it looks like I can't chat in query...I should register my nick first :P Thanks for your tip though!07:25
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xerox_had to disable autologin then I could install nvidia driver(beta)07:26
atidemyou are welcome, Racchio07:26
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viktoris there a way to disable the feature that adds numbers and letters to links in konqueror when i press ctrl?07:28
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matthew_Can someone remind me of what file to set the run-level in?07:31
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bobstroviktor:  it's in one of the accessibility options i think. perhaps in system settings? i don't see it in konqueror.07:33
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julianhi07:33
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viktorbobstro: yeah, i'm sure it's good, but when you don't need it, it's a pain07:36
rizomahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19658/ it's normal?07:37
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nixternalrizoma: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:38
nixternaldon't use sudo when opening up gui apps07:38
rizomaah i'ts my mistake?07:38
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rizomakdesu?07:38
nixternalya, small but not dangerous :)07:38
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rizomawhat's is?07:38
nixternalkdesu == KDE graphical based sudo07:38
rizomaok07:39
djdarkmanhy, is there a program that can create zip files without compressing the files, just storing them?07:39
rizomanixternal:  same effect07:40
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tatters I is running Feisty , I wish to try Looking glass desktop a HOWTO says to add "deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian stable contrib "  to source list, will this cause any problems on Kubuntu adding debian packages to source list07:42
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venikanyone using Opera 9.2 here?07:43
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rizomanixternal:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19660/07:43
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silence150tatters: in my experience, it usually works fine to use debian packages (as long as it's not a debian kernel or anything that has to do with the system)07:47
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silence150havn't tried the looking glass packages though, so I don't know for sure07:48
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rizomahow can solve this error?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19660/07:48
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matthew_I cannot install nvidia drivers because kubuntu won't change run-levels.. it always comes back with X... how can I stop X on kubuntu?07:49
Racchiomatthew_: did you tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ?07:50
matthew_nope.. didn't know that one..07:50
Racchiotry it :P07:51
Racchioanyway...I installed nVidia driver using X...off course I had to reboot later...but the installation proces works07:51
Racchioor ad least...it should :D07:51
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jorei have a little proplem: when i try log in adept manager its report this " Read only mode: database locked, probably some other adept application or apt-get or aptitude). please close the other application before using this on"?07:51
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joreaptitude and apt-get is alredy closed07:52
Racchiojore: may be some ".lock" not deleted after an apt crash?07:53
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jorei dont know07:55
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venikanyone using Opera 9.2 here?  I am trying to view videos from cnn.com using Opera07:56
joreafter an apt crashed i was try install some pack in adept manager but it not install it and it report some error i dont remember what in it error read07:56
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see-gjore: try to reproduce that error and then ask again07:57
see-g(the obvious attempt would be to install something in adept)07:57
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aroI'm using Opera 9.207:58
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joresee-g but i dont can try install some guz i cant go adept manager?07:59
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mikkaeldoes the kubuntu live cd contain qtparted ?07:59
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HymnToLifemikkael, yes08:01
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awatsonhey08:01
awatsonneed help with k3b - for some reason my Software buffer goes down to 0 right away08:01
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awatsonand only goes back up to 1-5%08:02
jorehey now this works i was write "dpkg --configure -a"08:02
awatsonmy burning is down to nothing :(08:02
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cox37777is tehre a command to show current bandwidth usage with out having to install any softwarE?08:02
awatsoncox37777: your network card should show that08:02
cox37777awatson: what would be the card mate?08:03
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cox37777command*08:03
awatsonsorry, i don't understand08:03
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awatsonoh, i don't know.  In KNetworkManager08:03
awatsoni just hover over the card (Wired)08:03
awatsonand it shows me statistics?08:03
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binks_nice netsplit08:17
binks_anyone got jinzora working on fiesty08:18
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DexterFhi08:18
DexterFinst'ed 7.04, rebooted, wanna type my username, nothing.08:18
DexterFmouse and keyb both dead.08:18
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DexterFknown issue?08:19
binks_DexterF: did they work on the live cd08:19
DexterFyup08:19
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LeeJunFanwhere is the samba password file stored?08:19
binks_hmm cant help you there sorry08:19
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crookshanksLeeJunFan: /etc/samba/smbpasswd i thought08:22
crookshanksnope, i'm wrong08:22
rizomai'm trying to install ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools in console it tells me: readings pack list ok, depedency tree ok reading information ok end then cant finf ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools08:23
LeeJunFancrookshanks: yeah, I haven't had any luck finding it. It must be in the registry :p08:23
rizomafind sorry my bad english08:23
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refreshwhen I resize the screen (say with ``krandrtray'') I sometimes get a black square artifact (around 50 by 50 pixels) in the top-left of the video. but the square is not really there. as soon as I try to take an image with ksnapshot, this artifact disappears.08:23
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stamenhi08:24
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stamenfrom where I can get DVM audio codec08:24
stamen!dvm08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:24
refreshI don't know how to solve this square-artifact problem. however, if I could just learn what ksnapshot does to the screen then I would have a workaround.08:25
refreshI noticed that the screen doesn't change when you draw a region of text with ksnapshot. how does ksnapshot achieve this temporary screen-freeze?08:25
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michaeli'm having problems with my USB 2.0 external HD in kubuntu08:32
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stamenso does anybody knows what to install for DVM audio codec08:39
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michaeldoes anyone know why my external USB HD is not automounting in kubuntu? my flash drive automounted and worked fine. I get the dialog asking me if i want to 'open in a new window' and i click ok, and there is no response08:39
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rizomamichael:  same problem08:40
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FuriousGeorgehey all.  i just plugged in a usb floppy.  it shows up under lsusb but isnt automatically mounted.  isnt that what is supposed to happen?08:41
FuriousGeorgei'd rather not mount it by hand constantly, but i dont quite know how to do it automatically in *buntui08:42
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chemist109FuriousGeorge: My experience with floppy drives is that they show up as an icon on the desktop and you click them to mount the disk after inserting it.08:44
FuriousGeorgeok, so that isnt happening,  guess its no big deal08:45
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solifugusAnyone: I installed the nvidia-glx-new package and did what it said to turn in on, now I cannot get X at all.. Can someone look and tell me what that command was again so I can turn it off?08:47
solifugus(kubuntu feisty fawn)08:47
michaelrizoma: any idea how to fix it?08:47
chemist109solifugus: You need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:47
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solifuguschemist109: but there was a command to just "enable" and "disable"08:48
chemist109solifugus: Find the line that says "driver" and change that from nvidia to nv08:48
chemist109solifugus: that will get you back up and running long enough to fix things08:48
solifuguschemist109: ok.. rebooting thank08:49
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asincronothat was a keyboard test? :)08:52
nixternalthanks chemist10908:52
OutoLumo_I have an issue...08:52
chemist109nixternal: NP08:53
OutoLumo_My laptop blanks screen instead of putting a screensaver on, which is not nice, since I use it as a clock as well...08:53
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OutoLumo_Any ideas?08:54
bobstroOutoLumo_:  power saving setup is likely the culprit.08:54
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solifuguschemist109: btw... changing "nvidia" to "nv" didn't work...  no X08:54
jovanswhere can i post my wish for more backports on feisty and greater08:54
bobstroSystem->Preferences->Power Management08:54
jovans?08:54
OutoLumo_bobstro, I agree, but where to look for that?08:55
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bobstroOutoLumo_:  i just told ya! :)08:55
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chemist109solifugus: That's odd.  Are you sure that you have an Nvidia card?  You can try the vesa driver by replacing "nv" with "vesa".  Maybe you'd better pastebin your xorg log file.08:56
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bobstroOutoLumo_:  or you could buy a watch i suppose. just check the blank screen settings.08:56
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OutoLumo_bobstro, I've been looking for power saving settings from the System Settings for a while now.08:56
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bobstroOutoLumo_:  wups. sorry, you're in kde.08:56
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michaelplease help! my external USB HD is not automounting in kubuntu. my flash drive automounted and worked fine. for the HD I get the dialog asking me if i want to 'open in a new window' and i click ok, and there is no response08:56
jackhi there, i have a problem08:56
bobstroOutoLumo_:  er... they're in the settings somewhere, i don't have kde fired up right now to check.08:56
OutoLumo_bobstro, last I checked this channel was #kubuntu ... ;-)08:56
bobstroOutoLumo_:  yeah, sorry. i'm in both.08:57
bobstroOutoLumo_:  i've been using kde but am giving the gnome a shot.08:57
jacki installed wine a few minutes ago... started windows... linux again and now i have only 800 resolution08:57
chemist109OutoLumo_: system settings > monitor and display08:57
jackcan anybody help me?08:57
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chemist109OutoLumo_: you might need to do the administrator mode...08:57
BlackBsdHow can i set up kubuntu to goot into a command line so i can startx into x?08:57
BlackBsdand give me a listing of the dmesg durring bootup08:57
bobstrochemist109:  is there an option in the screen saver settings too?08:57
nbogdanoffi was able to mount a smbfs without any errors , but when i go to list the files in the directory as root user, i get permission denied.08:57
OutoLumo_chemist109, there is some, but...08:58
chemist109bobstro: I don't think so.08:58
alan_Hi, I'm with problems! I have a laptop with a Intel Graphics i950 and using kubuntu 7.0408:58
alan_My screenshots are blue when there is some video on the screen08:58
alan_somebody could help me?08:58
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TheInfinityalan_: thats not a graphics problem - you will find this in every OS with hardware rendering of videos08:59
jacki only have a resoltution of 800x600..... since i rebootet the computer. can anyone help me please?08:59
OutoLumo_chemist109, ... the only Power saving setting in there is "Enable Power saving" (which I haven't enabled) and under that a Switch off time for monitor.08:59
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alan_but in kubuntu 6.10 this wasn't happening09:00
bobstrojack:  does ctrl-alt-+ do anything?09:00
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jackbobstro: not really09:01
jackonly switching the resolution.... but not getting better09:01
alan_does anyone have a problem like mine?09:01
jackmy problem: i have only 800x600 as maximum in system settings... i think the problem is wine... i installed it a few minutes ago09:01
michaelanyone have the same problem?09:02
chemist109alan_: what software are you using to view the video09:02
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alan_mplayer, totem, kaffeine09:02
OutoLumo_or rather - kubuntu09:02
alan_all with the same problem... in screenshots, the video is blue09:02
alan_with no image09:03
chemist109jack: sounds like a problem with your xorg.conf file.  You could try to get kubuntu to regenerate it with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:03
jackchemist109: thx will try this.09:03
chemist109jack: Make a backup copy of xorg.conf first.09:04
chemist109Hope he got that09:04
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alan_chemist109: I already tried this, but doesn't work.09:04
jacki always make a copy ;)09:05
chemist109jack: good!09:05
jackbut where do i find the xorg.conf again???09:05
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chemist109jack: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   I always do something like sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2007-05-0709:06
Tm_TOutoLumo_: howdy ho09:06
alan_oh, when I am using beryl and try to use transparency, the video screen got blue too09:06
OutoLumo_Tm_T, howdy. Trying to find some powersettings...09:06
jackk thx09:06
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BlackBsdhow do i get "desktop effects" to work in kubuntu?09:07
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BlackBsdi dont see a menu09:07
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^Paul^Does anyone here know if there are feisty repositorys for beryl-svn as mentioned for edgy in this DIGG thread? http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/This_week_in_Beryl_Wall_plugin09:07
BlackBsdjsut install beryl?09:07
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chemist109!effects09:08
ubotuFor help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.09:08
^Paul^seems to me as if there are a way of using beryl at the sametime using Tv-Out.. So that one get a cube on the TV.. at this moment my background on the TV is black, meanwhile the mousecoursor is there09:08
BlackBsdthanks09:08
^Paul^ahh09:08
chemist109Hmmm.  Not exactly what I was trying...09:08
^Paul^thanks09:08
^Paul^okay09:08
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darkk^Hello everyone. What is used as "sound system-ng" in 7.04? As far as I see, aRts is removed now.09:11
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darkk^Is there some standart way to forward all (almost) sound to another machine over network now?09:13
chemist109darkk^: I hadn't even noticed that aRts is gone!09:13
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Tm_Tdarkk^: removed?09:13
darkk^chemist109, I disabled it long long ago, but... now I have Rock-over-IP :)09:13
darkk^Tm_T, I've not found it in 7.04 packagelist09:13
chemist109There is a checkbox in system settings > sound system that says "Enable networked sound"09:14
Tm_Tdarkk^: well, its there09:14
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darkk^Tm_T, I see now, I thought it's in kde section09:14
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BlackBsdhow do i start the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedDriversManager from kde?09:17
BlackBsdthis page is blank09:17
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chemist109BlackBsd: Try sudo restricted-manager09:18
BlackBsdthanks, i did not the the binary name09:18
chemist109BlackBsd: Is it installed?09:18
BlackBsdi dont know...09:19
BlackBsdi just installed kubuntu09:19
BlackBsdit was on ubuntu09:19
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chemist109I don't think it's in the default install.  sudo aptitude install restricted-manager ought to do it.09:19
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BlackBsdso ubuntu comes with programs, besides gnome, that kubuntu does not?09:20
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chemist109BlackBsd: Some of the system management apps are different and some are simply not installed between the two.09:21
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chemist109That didn't make a lot of sense...Let me try again.09:22
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BlackBsdso, soem are gnome based and not on kubuntu09:22
BlackBsdi think i understane09:22
BlackBsdunderstand09:22
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chemist109Some of the system management apps are different (e.g. kuser as a user manager for kde).  Some are not included by default in ubuntu.09:23
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chemist109kubuntu, I mean.09:23
BlackBsd:-)09:23
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BlackBsdhow about a bluetooth program to use my bluetooth device?09:23
BlackBsdi cant beleive how much easier my stuff worked as opposed to gentoo...09:24
sayersit says "cannont find mime type applications/octet-stream"09:24
BlackBsdi got wireless working in like 2 min..09:24
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sayersWith everything I start up09:25
BlackBsdsaysers, you can use the control center, file association to fix that09:25
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BlackBsdunder kde components09:25
sayersBlackBsd: can you run me through the steps09:25
chemist109BlackBsd: I believe that there is a KDE bluetooth program, but I don't have any bluetooth devices so I haven't used it.09:25
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BlackBsdsayers type kcontrol from the command line09:26
sayersBlackBsd: Alright.09:27
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BlackBsdgo under kde components->file association09:28
chemist109BlackBsd: There's a bluetooth services section in kcontrol under internet and network.09:28
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BlackBsdchemist109, sweet.09:28
BlackBsdi will try to see if it works09:28
sayersBlackBsd: Alright09:28
BlackBsdsayers; now there is a dropdown for applications09:28
BlackBsdi mean application09:28
BlackBsdyou need to click on application09:29
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BlackBsdthen click the add button09:29
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BlackBsdand set the group to be application  and the type name put "octet-stream"09:29
sayersAllright BlackBsd09:29
BlackBsdthat message will go away09:30
BlackBsdand dont worry, you dont have to associate it with any application09:30
Nukedis there a channel on freenode devoted to the windows installer?09:30
chemist109BlackBsd: Good job with the mimetype thing.  Have you had that problem before?  Do you know what causes it?09:30
BlackBsddoes anyone know how to have kubuntu, boot into a command line, as opposed to gui's09:30
BlackBsdyep09:30
BlackBsdi want to have to type startx to go into the gui09:31
^Paul^sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop09:31
chemist109BlackBsd: I used to know, but I don't know what to do now that inittab is gone.09:31
^Paul^then alt+f1 to tty109:31
^Paul^or something like that?09:31
BlackBsdhow about getting a listing of the dmesg durring bootup?09:31
khaije1blackbsd: adjust the default runlevel to sub 509:31
fdovingBlackBsd: go to /etc/rc2.d/ rename S99kdm to K99kdm09:32
BlackBsdcool.09:32
chemist109^Paul^: I think he wants it to do that every time09:32
BlackBsdsayers, did that work for you?09:32
^Paul^I understood that.. but that might help him a bit.. :)09:32
chemist109fdoving: Duh, I should have thought of that!  Good09:32
BlackBsdthanks guys, you all are helpfull09:32
fdovingBlackBsd: for the dmesg, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove quiet and splash from the argumetns for each kernel.09:33
GM04030276how do you ajust the run level, i once did it in fedora but that was AGES ago!09:33
BlackBsdcant i set it up so i can hit f2 for the silent/verbose?09:33
chemist109GM04030276: We were just discussing that.09:33
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fdovingBlackBsd: actually, you don't have to do that for each kernel, do it for the line '# defoptions=quiet splash09:34
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fdovingBlackBsd: change that line to '# defoptions=' then run 'sudo update-grub'09:34
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BlackBsdfdoving, sorry, i dont understand?09:35
fdovingBlackBsd: note that the # should be at the start of that line. it is read anyhow.09:35
BlackBsdare you talking about the grub.conf file?09:35
GM04030276   fdoving: BlackBsd: go to /etc/rc2.d/ rename S99kdm to K99kdm09:35
dwidmannBlackBsd: /boot/grub/menu.lst09:35
fdovingBlackBsd: yes, it's name is menu.lst in ubuntu.09:35
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BlackBsdGM0403*  sorry i am still trying to follow the notes from above..09:35
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BlackBsdthey are moving pretty fast... :-)09:36
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khaije1gm04-: have you read the init manual?09:37
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Cnl_Deltahi, whats the best download manager for kubuntu feisty09:40
fdovingCnl_Delta: kget or d4x. d4x is gtk based though.09:41
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Cnl_Deltakget it is09:42
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nobuddyI can't see my buddies in the buddy list. Any idea what the problem is?09:43
nobuddythe buddies _are_ listed in ~/.gaim/blist.xml09:44
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BlackBsdGM0403*  by renaming that file, aint i just renaming that file so it dont get run?09:47
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chemist109BlackBsd: Yeah, putting the K in front changes it from (S)tart to (K)ill for that service.09:48
compilerwriterSomehow or another my audio has gotten screwed up.  Anyone able to help me get it sorted?09:48
chemist109KDM is the KDE graphical login manager09:48
yonkeltronindeed09:48
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BlackBsdok, so just renaming it, will boot me to a command line, where i will have to type startx09:49
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BlackBsdsweet, thanks09:49
chemist109BlackBsd: Yeah, that's what it should do.09:49
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BlackBsdis there a tool that will tell me what services are on the system and what ones are starting up?09:49
BlackBsdand at what runlevel09:49
ward_whats a nice xml editor for linux ?09:50
BlackBsdward_ eclipse?  vim??09:50
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dwidmannkate seems to be a nice editor for just about anything09:50
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Cnl_Deltahmm how can i see what wget is downloading09:50
Cnl_Deltaat the terminal kget doesn't seem to say much09:50
chemist109BlackBsd: You can look in the rcX.d (where X is 0 to 6) directories under /etc.09:50
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dac_jisao,hello09:51
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chemist109BlackBsd: Under Feisty, runlevels have sorta gone away.  Feisty uses upstart instead of init to start the system.09:51
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BlackBsdhmm, upstart..  no man upstart09:52
BlackBsdis that a gui program09:52
BlackBsdor a new rc system09:52
ward_no i need something with hotkeys, DTD's etc ...09:53
chemist109BlackBsd: Not a gui.  It's sort of like the rc system.  It uses the rc system for legacy apps.09:53
BlackBsdis that a ubuntu thing or debian?09:53
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BlackBsdi assume there is docs on it?09:53
dwidmannubuntu, not debian09:53
chemist109BlackBsd: There's documentation on the web.  You can look into /etc/event.d and see some stuff too.09:55
dwidmannBlackBsd: probably some stuff to read on launchpad.net and the ubuntu wiki/community docs09:55
ward_how can i check the encoding used when i create files with kate  ?09:55
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chemist109BlackBsd: The event.d directory is the current replacement for inittab09:55
dwidmannward_: tools -> encoding09:56
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BlackBsdchemist109, im not used to inittab either, i am a gentoo user.09:56
BlackBsdi was used to rc-update09:57
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BlackBsdbut i will read up on it09:57
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BlackBsdthatnks09:57
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jackchemist109: thank you! rebuild the xorg.conf and it works fine!09:57
dwidmannblackbsd: should still be able to play with things with update-rc.d09:57
dwidmann(If I remember correctly ...)09:57
chemist109jack: You're welcome.  I'm glad it works!09:58
jackok bye bye09:58
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K-Ryan!adeptcrash09:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
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K-Ryan!adept09:58
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:58
K-Ryan!adeptfix09:58
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:58
BlackBsddoes anyone have beryl running?  with the wobbaly windows and such?09:59
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K-RyanWhat's up?10:00
K-RyanYou might want to try...10:00
K-Ryan!beryl10:00
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:00
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chemist109BlackBsd: I played with Beryl for a day or two.  Everything worked and it was cool and all but it got distracting after a while.  I prefer the default ingerface10:01
BlackBsdi installed it, i have the menu item, but the visuals are not running..10:01
ward_dwidmann: thx10:01
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OutoLumo_ANyone has any ideas about my powersaver problem?10:01
BlackBsdin ubuntu i selected a menu item called "desktop effects"10:01
dwidmannBlackBsd: I played with it ... but I find I prefer kwin.10:01
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BlackBsdi think everything is installed, i must have to start a service or something10:02
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dwidmannBlackBsd: at the very least you probably have to restart x10:03
dwidmannperhaps10:03
K-RyanDid you start Beryl?10:03
chemist109BlackBsd: Start beryl-manager10:03
chemist109that is, type: beryl-manager10:03
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BlackBsdok, i dont have that binary, so im going to try installing beryl-kubuntu10:06
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BlackBsdi used adept manager, and installed beryl10:06
BlackBsdand dep's10:06
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BlackBsddependencies10:06
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BlackBsdthe kubuntu install figured out i had gentoo on the system, so it named it correctly in my grub.conf file. :-)10:12
BlackBsdchemist109, what program is needed to get the beryl-manager binary?10:13
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chemist109BlackBsd: I think just aptitude install beryl-manager10:14
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Jacko2007hello10:14
chemist109BlackBsd: Then configure it with the gui10:14
Jacko2007I got a quick question how do I sllow write access to a folder in console10:14
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BlackBsdthanks, it was not in adept gui..10:15
BlackBsdbut its comming in now10:15
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BlackBsdyep, got it now... sweet, thanks :-)10:15
BlackBsdthat would of took some time in the other distro..10:16
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chemist109It's in my kmenu under system10:16
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chemist109Be sure to get aquamarine for beryl.  This will allow you to use your native kde window decorations.10:17
chemist109sudo aptitude install aquamarine10:17
Jacko2007I got a quick question how do I sllow write access to a folder in console10:17
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BlackBsdjacko, chmod  777 ./folder10:18
chemist109Jacko2007: write access for whom?  User, group, or everyone.10:18
BlackBsdif you dont own it then use sudo10:18
Jacko2007everyone10:18
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BlackBsd777 for everyone10:18
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linux__hi10:19
chemist109Jacko2007: or sudo chmod a+w /path/to/folder10:19
compilerwriter!audio10:19
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:19
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Jacko2007operation not permitted?10:19
BlackBsdjacko2007, chmod  777 ./folder10:19
Jacko2007forgot the sudo bit lol10:20
chemist109Jacko2007: use sudo:   sudo chmod a+w /path/to/folder10:20
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BlackBsd:-P10:20
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Jacko2007lol @ chemist lol10:20
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BlackBsdactually i think the a+w is different than 77710:21
BlackBsdso yours is probally better10:21
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Jacko2007I have done 77710:22
raphael_ich hab probleme10:22
K-Ryanraphael_ what language?10:22
chemist109BlackBsd: I've been running beryl for the last 10 minutes.  Still cool.  Still distracting :)10:22
BlackBsdso a means all 'user, group, other' and w means write10:22
chemist109!de | raphael10:22
uboturaphael: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:23
K-Ryandamn, i was gonna give 'em the !de10:23
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K-Ryanbut i wasnt sure if thats what he was speaking...10:23
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PhinnForthe was speaking very bad german, imho;)10:23
chemist109I took german in high school.  I can talk about pencils and tables, but that's about it.10:24
K-Ryanfluent in spanish here, but thats it10:24
PhinnFortich bin eine kartoffelkndel10:24
BlackBsdchemist109, do i have to start, aquamarine?10:24
BlackBsdmy language is C10:24
K-RyanOkay, sorry to break up the fun but we're going to get yelled at for being offtopic =P10:24
PhinnForti know some spanish AND german;)10:24
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chemist109BlackBsd: Nope. just beryl-manager10:24
BlackBsd:-)10:24
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K-Ryan=P10:25
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PhinnFortBlackBsd: beryl-manager is really neat10:25
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BlackBsdwhat is adept notifier?10:25
PhinnFortBlackBsd: it notifies about package updates10:25
chemist109BlackBsd: right click the beryl-manager icon and select window decorator > aquamarine10:26
chemist109BlackBsd: Yeah, I had problems with that popping out of the system tray too.10:26
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PhinnFortchemist109: i think it's because it's supposed to stay hidden from the tray10:26
PhinnFortchemist109: it worked properly in the latest versions of beryl10:27
PhinnFortfor me anyways, before I switched to compiz10:27
BlackBsdthe icon in my task tray?10:27
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chemist109PhinnFort: I always had it pop up in the upper left corner of the screen.10:27
BlackBsdi dont have a window decorator > menu10:27
PhinnFortchemist109: me too, until a couple of beryl versions ago10:27
PhinnFortBlackBsd: right clicky the red diamondy thingy?10:27
BlackBsdnm i got it.10:28
compilerwriterphinnFort I am having issues with my sound can you help me debug it?10:28
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: maybe;)10:28
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PhinnFortcompilerwriter: i'm loosing my internet connection in about ~half an hour, so be quick;)10:28
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compilerwriterphinnfort I loaded an audiocd and it showed up on my desktop, but I can't manage to get it to play.10:29
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: tried amarok?10:29
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compilerwriterI am trying it now phinnfort10:29
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PhinnFortcompilerwriter: it could be that your sound card and cd-rom isn't physically connected (there's a specific cable for it), but I'm not sure if it's needed10:29
PhinnFortEngage -> Play Audio-CD, i think10:30
PhinnFort(i'm on norwegian locale)10:30
compilerwriterNo suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.10:30
compilerwriteraudiocd:/Carreras Domingo Pavarotti - 01 - Il lamento di Federico %252F Carreras.wav10:30
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PhinnFortcompilerwriter: weird...10:30
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: try opening "audiocd:/" in konqueror10:30
chemist109compilerwriter: Do you have more than one optical drive?10:31
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compilerwriterI have two optical drives phinnfort and chemist10910:31
chemist109compilerwriter: try the other one.10:31
compilerwriterI have tried both drives chemist109 and phinnfort10:31
K-RyanNot getting a response in the effects channel so I'll ask quickly here.10:32
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: did you manage to open "audiocd:/" in Konqueror?10:32
compilerwriterI clicked on it and it said can not read.10:32
K-RyanWould a 1.8Ghz processor, 25MB graphics card, 512MB RAM support beryl?10:32
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: if you go to "media:/" then?10:32
PhinnFortK-Ryan: depends on the GFX-card, but I believe it should10:32
K-Ryan***256MB graphics10:32
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K-RyanIt's a GeForce 660010:32
PhinnFortK-Ryan: it runs here, same specs, only an ATI Radeon with 128mb vram10:33
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K-RyanAlright then, should work here.10:33
K-RyanThanks10:33
srednathe current digikam package crashes when i try to use the 'email images' feature10:33
srednaa sig 1110:33
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PhinnFortsredna: file a bug10:33
srednawhere?10:33
PhinnFortbugs.launchpad.net10:34
PhinnFortand bugs.kde.org10:34
PhinnFortor just one place10:34
srednait is unlikely to be a kde problem10:34
srednapackage incompability10:34
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compilerwriterphinnfort it shows up as scd1 and I can open it.10:34
K-Ryanalright beryl is working10:34
PhinnFortsredna: how so?10:35
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PhinnFortK-Ryan: :D10:35
K-Ryanbut umm the top bar of all my windows disapeared10:35
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: can you try to rip it?10:35
K-RyanI can't X out, minimize, or move stuff10:35
K-RyanFrom that top bar anyway10:35
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BlackBsdthat adept notifier claimes there are no updates needed, yet it stays on my desktop10:35
PhinnFortK-Ryan: alt+click?10:35
BlackBsdcan i get rid of it10:35
PhinnFortBlackBsd: because of Beryl10:35
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K-RyanOooo10:36
K-RyanThanks for that10:36
nominare there any developers in here that would be interested in packaging qjoypad?  It's a program that let's you emulate the mouse and keyboard with a joystick.  there is no program in the ubuntu repos that do this and the developer of qjoypad isn't working on it anymore.10:36
PhinnFortK-Ryan: works not just in beryl10:36
K-RyanI'm just dragging windows around right now10:36
K-RyanThis is so cool...10:36
PhinnFortnomin: better luck in #ubuntu-motu, i believe10:36
PhinnFortnomin: but if it's abandoned i doubt it10:36
nominPhinnFort: I'll ask in there anyway.10:37
PhinnFortdo it;)10:37
nominI can't be the only one that uses a gamepad to emulate the mouse10:37
K-RyanAnd the switching things to different desktops10:37
K-Ryanawesome10:37
compilerwriterphinnfort k3b is trying to rip it now.10:37
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PhinnFortcompilerwriter: rather try kaudiocreator, or at least it's my personal preference;)10:38
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compilerwriterphinnfort I don't have it installed at moment.  I will go get it later.10:38
PhinnFortok10:39
compilerwriterphinnfort actually I do have it.10:39
compilerwriterwill give it a shot now.10:39
PhinnForti have set it to automatically rip any audio cd's i insert10:39
PhinnFortreally nifty10:39
compilerwriterphinnfort it gave me some crap about no encoder selected.10:40
compilerwriterafk for a few seconds10:40
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: hit alt+f2, kcontrol10:40
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K-RyanOkay so how do I change the beryl theme?10:41
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K-RyanI'm in theme settings but I see no "apply" button when I pick something new10:41
Daisuke_IdoK-Ryan: you using emerald or aquamarine?10:41
K-Ryanemerald10:41
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Daisuke_Idojust click on it and it should change10:42
compilerwriterdid that phinnfort what next10:42
TheDebuggerAnyone is able to get album arts on song transfered from amarok to an ipod?10:42
PhinnFortK-Ryan: use the beryl theme manager10:42
PhinnFortK-Ryan: i believe it's under "Settings" in the K-Menu10:42
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: sound & multimedia10:42
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PhinnFortcompilerwriter: audio cd's, i believe10:42
K-RyanLemme try that because clicking stuff in this isn't doin' it10:42
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compilerwritermad it that far phinnfort10:43
Daisuke_IdoPhinnFort: "emerald theme manager" and it is under settings10:43
PhinnFortyeah, whatever;)10:43
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compilerwritermade it hat far I mean phinnfort10:43
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K-Ryanerr, that's what I was in10:43
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Daisuke_IdoK-Ryan: and things weren't changing as you clicked on themes?10:43
K-Ryannope10:43
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: what is the cdrom device?10:43
compilerwriterI just ticked /dev/cdrom10:43
Daisuke_Idomake sure you're using emerald (under choose window decorator in beryl-manager)10:44
BlackBsdany windows users here.10:44
PhinnFortBlackBsd: try ##windows10:44
K-RyanUnfortunately, yes =)10:44
aldinhow could i check k/ubuntu CD for defects from KDE/GNOME (withoud rebooting)10:44
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K-RyanPhinnFort his question might be related to both10:44
Daisuke_IdoBlackBsd: are you satan?  or did he just send you? :P10:44
compilerwriterPhinnfort I just ticked /dev/cdrom10:44
K-RyanJust ya' know10:44
K-RyanOh come on guys10:44
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: does it work now?10:44
K-RyanHe's obviously trying to get away from it10:44
Daisuke_Idotrue10:45
Daisuke_Idoprobably10:45
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BlackBsdno, i was just going to complain about it breifly.10:45
K-RyanWindows manager is beryl10:45
K-RyanJoin the club10:45
K-RyanWe've got jackets =)10:45
BlackBsdlike window focus follows the mouse,  this just isnt available in windows10:45
compilerwriterphinnfort says no audio cd detected.10:45
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PhinnFortcompilerwriter: can you paste the output of "dmesg | tail" into #flood?10:46
K-RyanYou know there's...10:46
K-Ryan!pastebin10:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:46
compilerwriterphinnfort let me try again I forgot to apply changes.10:46
BlackBsdi havent used it in years, and i was exposed to vista today...   and shit, without the focus follows mouse feature, i dont see how vista is useable.10:46
PhinnFortK-Ryan: but it's easier for shorter pastes10:46
K-RyanI suppose10:46
PhinnFortBlackBsd: you poor thing;)10:46
compilerwriterphinnfort will be pasting in a second10:46
Daisuke_IdoBlackBsd: i'm so sorrt10:47
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BlackBsdactually, i can see why windows ppl get artheritis now10:47
PhinnFortnoone should be exposed to vista for more that a couple of hours at a time10:47
Daisuke_Idosorry, too10:47
PhinnFortBlackBsd: lol10:47
BlackBsdso many right click milage10:47
K-RyanI know why I'm going to have arthritis10:47
K-RyanEver been to www.clickclickclick.com ?10:47
PhinnFortK-Ryan: yeah, and we have kmouse10:47
PhinnFort:D10:47
PhinnFort!info kmouse10:47
ubotuPackage kmouse does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:47
K-RyanLet's just say the US had a good 10k clicks from me during one of the rounds...10:47
PhinnFortor something10:48
K-RyanPhinnFort it detects repeted clicks if the timing is the same10:48
PhinnFort!info kmousetool10:48
K-RyanMy friend tried it10:48
compilerwriterjust pated it phinnfort10:48
PhinnFortwell, add some randomization10:48
ubotukmousetool: KDE mouse manipulation tool for the disabled. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 70 kB, installed size 348 kB10:48
K-RyanYeah yeah, but I don't wanna get caught.10:48
BlackBsdk-ryan, rofl, that site is funny10:48
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: are you sure there's a cdrom in the drive?10:48
K-RyanSomeone added 50 million clicks for Denmark...10:48
PhinnFortlol10:48
K-RyanTook about a day, but they got caught10:48
BlackBsdand the US is 21st...10:48
K-RyanThere are different rounds10:48
PhinnForthehe, we're 13th10:48
PhinnFortnorway10:48
K-RyanThe one I played we were constantly 3rd and 2nd eventually10:49
BlackBsdppl have lots of time on their hands10:49
BlackBsdhow bout scripting it ot click there??10:49
K-RyanI spent about an hour just doing that one night10:49
PhinnFortor scripting it to submit10:49
K-RyanIt was 12:30-1:30 and I was bored10:49
K-RyanMy friend was over too10:49
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K-RyanSo him, my brother, and me all did that10:49
compilerwriterphinnfort I was sure there was one in the drive, but I guess k3b kicked the drive open10:49
K-RyanAnyways...10:49
compilerwriterlol10:50
PhinnFort"<FONT size="2"><B>Please note:</B> This site is not suitable for using scripts. If you use scripts then<BR>you will be banned, and your country's results may be subject to penalty.<BR><EM>Play fair and have fun!</EM></FONT>"10:50
BlackBsdhttp://news.yahoo.com/photo/070506/481/8987ce214cae465496bd081c74692131   ewww,  NSFW10:50
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: ;)10:50
BlackBsdi feel sick10:50
BlackBsdsome of thoes butts are saggin to the floor10:50
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compilerwriterphinnfort btw k3b says it successfully ripped the cd.  Should I not be able to just play the damned things though?10:50
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: try playing it again?10:51
hyper_chwhat's the best way to run a manual fsck on the /-partition?10:51
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PhinnForthyper_ch: a livecd10:51
PhinnForthyper_ch: i'm not sure if the initrd contains enough to run it10:51
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hyper_chPhinnFort: then I'm downloading the livecd now10:52
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PhinnForthyper_ch: but you could try to pass "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel10:52
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compilerwriterphinnfort amorak still can't play it.10:52
PhinnFort:(10:52
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hyper_chPhinnFort: you know, I just re-setup my computer yesterday - so I formated the /-partition... but upon first boot it made a check and fsck died with some errors or something10:52
PhinnForthyper_ch: doesn't sound good10:53
PhinnForthyper_ch: didn't it drop you to a root shell?10:53
PhinnFortit should do that, afaik10:53
hyper_chPhinnFort: well, everhing seems to run fine10:53
hyper_chPhinnFort: nope, it rebooted10:53
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PhinnForthyper_ch: well, then it probably fixed it10:54
compilerwriterwell thanks for trying phinnfort10:54
hyper_chPhinnFort: just wanna run it manually to check :)10:54
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: I just rip my music10:54
hyper_chcompilerwriter: what do you try to do?10:54
PhinnForthyper_ch: well, a livecd is the easiest10:54
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hyper_chPhinnFort: will do so10:55
hyper_ch30% downloaded :)10:55
PhinnFort;)10:55
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tdnDoes anyone use LUKS for encrypted disks/swap? I get this error when trying to do a luksFormat: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P525.html10:56
GrahamHey guys, what's the kubuntu-desktop package and what does it do? I'm wanting to remove KPPP and KNetworkManager because I don't use them and it want sot remove that too.10:56
hyper_chtdn: I use dm-crypt/LUKS partitions10:57
SanneGraham: it's just a metapackage10:57
PhinnFortGraham: it just makes sure you have all the default KDE packages10:57
PhinnFort*/Kubuntu10:57
PhinnFortGraham: just delete it until next distro upgrade (to gutsy)10:57
PhinnFort!gutsy10:57
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+110:57
SanneGraham: it means it depends on a lot of stuff that gets installed automatically, but contains no programm itself10:57
K-RyanGutsy Gibbon?10:57
SanneGraham: install it again when you upgrade10:58
hyper_chtdn: no clue... for me it runs just fine10:58
K-RyanThese names are getting stranger and stranger...10:58
PhinnFort;)10:58
PhinnForthttp://www.impendingdoom.com/10:58
tdnhyper_ch, ok :(10:58
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PhinnForthyper_ch: maybe a tad bit early?;)10:59
hyper_chPhinnFort: been using feisty since herd3... I liked the daily updates :)10:59
PhinnFortwell, I kind of miss them too10:59
hyper_chPhinnFort: that just made me feel it is being worked on :)10:59
PhinnFort;)10:59
PhinnFortbut my desktop is so well-working now, so I don't feel like breaking anything;)10:59
hyper_chexcept for the one kernel update that rendered my wifi unusable :)10:59
PhinnFortlol11:00
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hyper_chPhinnFort: well, making a bug report (wasn't the only one) and less than 24h later it was fixed11:00
LordAnakinGood night!11:00
K-RyanG'night LordAnakin11:01
hyper_chI think the the problem was from 2.6.20-11 to -1211:01
hyper_chgood night LordAnakin11:01
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hyper_chevery week I discover a new cool app :) last week it was htop... this week it is apt-file :)11:04
KartiHi again, is there a way to view disk sizes using the GUI, as in My Computer in Windows?11:04
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hyper_chKarti: qtparted11:05
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hyper_chKarti: but I prefer "df -l"11:05
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=== hansen needs feisty upgrade support :-/
frojndhello there11:06
hyper_chhansen: what kind of support?11:06
hansenI ran the upgrade wizard, but it crashed half way through11:07
hyper_ch!backport11:07
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:07
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hyper_chhansen: and now?11:07
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hansenafter that I ran dpkg --configure -a11:07
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hansenand then adept_manager a few times more11:07
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navidHey11:07
Kartihyper_ch: df -l is perfect - cheers11:07
frojndhow can I change resolution to 1240*1024 cause there is no that kinda option in my xorg.conf even though that resolution is recommended to my monitor...11:07
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hansenand it seems that the system is upgraded to feisty11:08
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hansenbut I didn't dare to reboot yet11:08
hyper_chKarti: qtparted would be the partitioner for qt and also display sizes... but I think it's overkill to check the sizes :)11:08
SanneKarti: also try df -h11:08
freshmeatGuys -- I installed KDE a while ago on Gnome, but want it removed now.11:08
freshmeatHow would this be possible?11:08
hansenany idea what the upgrade wizard is doing in the "clean up" step?11:08
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hansenbecause it surely didn't get to that part11:08
hansenany way to run that step manually?11:09
hyper_chhansen: it deletes stuff that was added during the install... that's normal11:09
hyper_chhansen: do you have ubuntu on a cd for re-install?11:09
hyper_chfreshmeat: how did you install it?11:09
hansenI have an edgy CD, but didn't care to make a feisty one11:09
frojndI wanna have resolution: 1280 x 1024  how can I do that in xorg ?'11:09
hyper_chhansen: well, in case the pc won't come up again you can re-install :) that's why I asked :)11:10
freshmeathyper_ch: I downloaded it from konsole.11:10
intelikeyfreshmeat check /var/log/dpkg.log and find the list of packages that installed with kde11:10
hansenI'm backing up /home now before rebooting, and if it's dead I can burn a CD on my laptop11:10
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hyper_chhansen: or you could download the feisty cd just to be sure :)11:10
hyper_chhansen: you don't have /home on a seperate partition?11:10
KartiSanne: -f is better as it simplifies it more - cheers11:10
hansenhyper_ch: no, not anymore -- I have a backup HD instead that I just tar stuff to11:11
SanneKarti: cool11:11
hyper_chhansen: why tar?11:11
hansenbecause it does incremental backups. better backup software would be welcome of course11:11
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intelikeyfreshmeat depending on your setup.  subdir maybe.11:11
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hyper_chhansen11:12
intelikeyhyper_ch can't hardlink accross fs's tho11:12
hansenanyway, I just want to know if there is leftover stuff from the upgrade filling up my hd because I didn't get thru the clean up step11:12
frojndI wanna have resolution: 1280 x 1024  how can I do that in xorg ?'11:12
hyper_chhansen: you can have a look at my backup script :) fairly simply but (I think) effectiv11:12
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hyper_chhansen: dunno about that clean up step.. I only upgraded one machine from edgy to feisty and that worked out-of-the-box11:13
dwidmannfrojnd: you can do that by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", make sure to select 1280x1024 when you're at that part11:13
hansenit still puzzles me why the upgrade failed to horribly. I upgraded my wife's laptop without any problems at all. Only major diff is that her laptop is x86 and my desktop is x86_6411:14
frojnddwidmann: any other option, cause when I do that my keybord gets all messed up, I tryed that a few times but I don't wanna to do it again..11:14
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dwidmannfrojnd: well, yes and no at the same time11:15
frojndgimme yes dwidmann11:15
hyper_chhmm, is truecrypt in automatix?11:15
LjL!automatix11:15
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:15
intelikey>>> modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting genrtc (/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/kernel/drivers/char/genrtc.ko): Device or resource busy11:16
dwidmannfrojnd: you can back up your xorg.conf, run that, and then modify your backup to be like the new with regards to the resolution and leaving everything else alone11:16
dwidmannfrojnd: then of course, restore the modified backup11:16
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dwidmann(full path to the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf)11:16
intelikeywhy would "ntpdate pool.ntp.org"   cause that ^ ?11:16
hyper_chLjL: do you know the answer?11:16
frojnddwidmann: even if I leve everythih else alone, my keybord won't recognize ...11:16
frojndlive*11:17
enoteewhats the best app to synch a palm treo 65011:17
LjLhyper_ch: no, and if i knew i wouldn't tell you. there is an automatix channel if you still want to use it despite sanity. there are encryption programs available in the repos.11:17
hyper_chenotee: tried kpilot?11:17
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intelikeyi checked  /usr/sbin/ntpdate   it's ELF 32-bit LSB executable   so it shouldn't be calling modprobe i wouldn't think.11:17
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intelikeyanyone ?11:18
hyper_chLjL: have I said I want to use it? I just wondered whether it's in automatix... because someone had it in some repos and I just wondered what those might be as I have quite a few...11:18
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kiwi__does anyone know how to configure kmail for hotmail11:18
kiwi__??11:18
hansenintelikey: genrtc.ko sounds like "Real Time Clock" to me11:18
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intelikeyhansen yes  but why is modprobe being called ?11:19
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hansenintelikey: strace -f ntpdate ...11:19
intelikeyPackage udev is not installed11:19
hyper_chhas k3b problems in feisty?11:20
LjLhyper_ch: don't know about any repository, but a .deb for Ubuntu is available straight from their site11:20
hyper_chLjL: thx11:20
K-RyanHey guys my panel thing isn't working.11:20
K-RyanLet me explain...11:20
hyper_chhmmm, k3b is pressing my computer very hard and a lot of disk access is performed but I don't see any progress bar so the like11:21
K-RyanI've got Beryl running and if I scroll over stuff, it shows the preview like normal. But if I click on the name of the window, the window doesn't pop up.11:21
intelikeyhansen  what am i looking for?   no mention of modprobe in there11:21
K-RyanDid I mess something up with Beryl?11:22
Admiral_Chicagokiwi__: might want to check the documentation for kmail11:22
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hansenintelikey: does it open any funny devices?11:23
intelikeyno not really11:23
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intelikeyno devices at all11:26
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intelikeyonly a few config files and lib or three11:26
hansenintelikey: my system doesn't have that genrtc module loaded, even after running ntpdate11:26
intelikeymodule name is   rtc11:27
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hansenlsmod|grep rtc says nothing11:27
intelikeyso why does this system load it ?    and that's the command being called,  i dubble checked.    "ntpdate pool.ntp.org"11:28
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intelikeytry    "hwclock --systohc "   si if it loads it ?11:29
Lars_GQuestion, is kde 4 svn daily pull somehow easier to compile on Feisty? I mean, are the qt4 libraries and dev files for example kde 4 ready? so that I don't suffer as much making a compiling setup?11:30
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onlineappshey, anyone know if kde desktop sharing can create a java server like winvnc11:31
intelikeythat's it   got it.    there was a function defined that called a   hwclock command if the update was successful....    ok sorry to trubble you.11:31
Lars_Gthe server is still afaik a simple vnc server onlineapps11:31
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intelikeyhansen ^   ty.11:31
Lars_Gwhat the other "creates" is an http server with an html file inside with the Java VNC client embedded in it.11:32
onlineappsLars_G: problem is, not all the computers I use to connect to my desktop have a vnc client11:32
onlineappsLars_G: how do I do that?11:32
Lars_Gwhich should not be TOO hard to make with kde's Personal File Server11:32
Lars_GBasically you need to find the APPLET java client, it might/should come with a html example on how to embed it in a page.11:32
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onlineappsAPPLET client for what?11:33
Lars_Gyou could then for example create a kde PFS, copy the html and .jar files there in a dir, and use it from there11:33
Lars_GVNC11:33
onlineappsok11:33
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hansenintelikey: hwclock works and did not cause any rtc module to be loaded11:33
Lars_GOk I gtg now. sigh, see you all latter11:33
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K-RyanSee ya'11:33
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intelikeyhansen it does on this system.    that's what was doing it.    i  modprobe -r rtc ;whclock --systohw    and bang. there's the error message again.11:36
hansenstrange11:37
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intelikeys/;wh/;hw/11:37
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hansenwhat kind of system is it?11:37
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intelikeythe module gets inserted ok but it errors trying the other module first  "genrtc"11:38
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intelikeykind ?    hw specs ?   or sw ?11:38
hansenmine is "2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Tue Mar 13 22:06:20 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux" -- until a few minutes when it hopefully is able to reboot into feisty :)11:38
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chemist109intelikey: can you blacklist genrtc?11:38
hansenI was thinking hw -- maybe you have some funny rtc device?11:38
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intelikeychemist109 could. but easier to add rtc to the /etc/modules and be done with it.11:39
intelikeyhansen yeah.   box is 12 years old.11:39
chemist109intelikey: Yes, but will it still try to insert genrtc first?11:39
intelikeychemist109 no.11:40
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stealthyAlrighty, is it possible to share files over cat5 cable with a windows desktop?11:41
stealthyI did it with my desk/lap with both windows, but not sure how to go about it with one on linux11:41
intelikeyhansen we were also comparing apples and bananas there.  you are running 64 bit11:41
hansenright11:42
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intelikey!samba11:42
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:42
PhinnFortstealthy: crossover cable?11:42
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stealthypretty much11:43
mantahttp://youtube.com/watch?v=IHsGlV2k3aM11:43
PhinnFortstealthy: tried "File Sharing"?11:43
PhinnFort:P11:43
mantahttp://youtube.com/watch?v=IHsGlV2k3aM11:43
intelikeymanta don't do that.11:43
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stealthyPhinnFort, uhm... where is it on this?11:43
stealthyI know wher eon windows11:44
PhinnFortstealthy: System Settings -> File Sharing11:44
stealthySMB and NFS? samba an dnetwork file system?11:44
PhinnFortsamba would work with Windows, yes11:45
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K-RyanPhinnFort, not that I want to get rid of you, but didn't you have to leave in a half hour about an hour ago? =P11:45
ijacek!cz11:45
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.11:45
PhinnFortK-Ryan: I managed to evade the school-wide disconnect;)11:45
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K-RyanNice =P11:45
PhinnFort;)11:46
sayersThe Docking Tray is really long , can I make it auto-shorten its self some how11:46
PhinnFortsayers: you mean kicker?11:46
intelikeysayers suto hide some of it's apps11:46
PhinnFortright click on it, and customize11:46
intelikeyPhinnFort i think he's talking about systray in kicker11:47
intelikeysame answer    right click11:47
sayersintelikey: Suo11:47
PhinnFortsayers: you can make the whole kicker bigger/higher, so they go double up11:47
sayerssuto*?11:48
sayersPhinnFort, Over where the time is...11:48
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sayersPhinnFort: Made it bigger and that worked11:48
PhinnFort;)11:48
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intelikeysayers  you can also set it to hide select apps   "like windows does"11:49
ijacekwhy add this channel to gaim ? :)11:49
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PhinnFortintelikey: but why hide them?11:49
PhinnFort;)11:49
waylen espaol alguien11:49
PhinnFort!es | wayl11:49
ubotuwayl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:49
intelikeyPhinnFort why have a systray at all is my answer11:49
PhinnFort;)11:50
PhinnFortintelikey: for easy and combined access to my life11:50
PhinnFortrss-feeds, mails, konversation, msn/kopete, etc.11:50
waylcomo entro a ese #ubuntu-es soy nuevo en irc11:50
sayersintelikey: If I tell it to hide I loose the whole bar...11:50
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intelikeynot easer to go all the way to that point than just clicking the desktop and sellecting what you want....    "blackbox thinking..."11:51
PhinnFortwayl: click on the blue text11:51
waylya de di11:51
PhinnFortintelikey: well, I don't want to click just to see if someone mentioned me on irc, if amarok is playing, if I got mail, if i got news, etc.11:52
PhinnFortsystray is good, imho;)11:53
sayersIt is the way of being able to do everything while seeing nothing11:53
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waylok ... thanks11:53
PhinnFortsayers: configure systray, not kicker11:54
intelikeyPhinnFort well.  i don't want part of my screen cluttered with "what i consider" useless junk, either.    but that's why it's linux.    it's all about choices.     default is only the first step on the long road to "right"    for each individual11:54
PhinnFortintelikey: agreed;)11:54
sayersPhinnFort: where?11:54
PhinnFortsayers: I don't know how you11:54
PhinnFort've set it up, but I hover my mouse over, and a handle appears that I click, and select Configure Systray11:55
intelikeynow if i used kicker    i would probably use systray too11:55
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intelikey:)11:56
PhinnFortwill be much (ab)used in the future11:56
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compilerwriterphinnfort you have any more ideas on my sound issue?11:56
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: did you manage to play the ripped songs with amarok?11:57
compilerwriterno phinnfort I did not.11:57
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intelikeycompilerwriter is it the same issue you have been having ?    /me thinks back about a month11:57
tdnHow do I get the restricted ATI drivers to work in Kubuntu Feisty? I heard that it should be easy to do now....11:58
PhinnForttdn: in Ubuntu, not sure if it's as easy in KUbuntu11:58
compilerwriterI don't know intelikey if it is or not.  I have managed to get sound working since then. but now it is gone again.11:58
intelikeycompilerwriter hmmm sounds like the same.   what did you do to get it to work ?11:59
PhinnFort!find kscd11:59
ubotuFound: kscd11:59
PhinnFort!info kscd11:59
ubotukscd: audio CD player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 417 kB, installed size 900 kB11:59
intelikeyhave you looked into redoing that ?11:59
compilerwriterI have no clue what finally got it working intelikey?  It just did.11:59
intelikeyoh....11:59
PhinnFortcompilerwriter: can you play any kind of sound?12:00
tdnPhinnFort, hmm... Why should it not be easy in KDE too?12:00
compilerwriterI have no sound whatever phinnfort12:00
PhinnForttdn: because they have to write separate tools to handle it12:01
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sayersPhinnFort: it says configure panel12:01
PhinnFortsayers: don't right click12:01
PhinnFortsayers: do you have a handle left of the systray?12:01
sayersah I see that12:02
intelikeycompilerwriter care to pastebin   "" lshw ;cat /proc/asound/cards  ;ls -l /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*  ""     i'll see if i notice anything.12:02
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ijacek-msg12:04
ijacek!help12:05
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:05
intelikeyjackie what do ya need12:05
K-Ryan!botsnack12:06
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:06
K-RyanThat's new12:07
K-RyanWhat's APT?12:07
intelikey!apt12:07
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:07
intelikey:)12:07
compilerwriterintelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19698/12:07
intelikeyk looking12:07
K-RyanErr, right12:07
K-RyanAlright well I think I'm headed to Windows for now.12:07
K-RyanDeus Ex Game of The Year Edition is calling my name12:08
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K-RyanSee ya' guys12:08
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compilerwriterIf I wanted to just backup and do a fresh install I would just back up my home directory and go from there would I not?12:10
intelikeycompilerwriter   groups | grep audio12:10
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compilerwriterintelikey keith adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin12:10
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intelikeycompilerwriter correct.   about the backup.      but if you have setup any special configs in /etc you might want to save a copy to your home first12:11
GrahamEspecially config for hardware that's a bitch to setup.12:11
compilerwriterI have xdmcp set up, but that could be fairly easily redone, and I can't remember which files I need to mess with anyway.12:11
compilerwriterSomething with the xorg configs I believe.12:12
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intelikeycompilerwriter can you hear anything if you   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp    (should be white noise)    use ^c   [crtl] +C   to  kill that12:12
compilerwriterno such file or directory intelikey12:13
intelikeywhich ?12:13
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