[12:14] <bonbonthejon> Pollywog: its a finished basement
[12:14] <Pollywog> yes but still, it can seep in
[12:14] <Pollywog> if it is in the soil where you live
[12:14] <FroggyTheGreat> If I get the error message from "Make" - make: *** No rule to make target `Kicker', needed by `index.cache.bz2'.  Stop." what does that signify?
[12:14] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: in linux host should do it
[12:15] <Latty> Anyone have any experience getting all of the hotkeys and stuff working with the Cherry CyMaster Linux keyboard? - The debian packages on disk don't install right, and all compiles fail for me.
[12:15] <Pollywog> Froggy: is there a configure script in the directory?
[12:15] <FroggyTheGreat> I was able to run ./ configure yeah.
[12:15] <leiar> thanks..about flashplugin .. what about java?
[12:15] <bonbonthejon> !java | leiar
[12:15] <leiar> where do we find java?
[12:16] <ubotu> leiar: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:16] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: now how about make?
[12:16] <Pollywog> I usually use java-package to install Java but only because I use that method in Debian
[12:16] <Dhraakellian> and sudo make install?
[12:16] <OptimusRex> could you give me the full command line?
[12:17] <OptimusRex> from sudo fdisk to the deletion line
[12:17] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: get in fdisk with "sudo fdisk", then do "d" to delete, it should as for the partition, then "q" to quit
[12:17] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: as in `host` as a command or as a file?
[12:18] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: hostname, sorry
[12:18] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: command
[12:18] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: do both ssystems have an ip address and function?
[12:18] <leiar> I've enabled backport multiverse, but am not able to install sun-java5-jre
[12:19] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraakellian - make gives me an error.
[12:19] <Dhraakellian> what error?
[12:19] <bonbonthejon> leiar: what does it say
[12:19] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: the desktop has the right hostname when i type `hostname`
[12:19] <leiar> bonbonthejon: ouldn't find the pakage.
[12:19] <bonbonthejon> leiar: use adept to search for the package
[12:19] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraakellian - make: *** No rule to make target `Kicker', needed by `index.cache.bz2'.  Stop.
[12:19] <leiar> bonbonthejon: ok
[12:19] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: do the systems have ip addresses?
[12:20] <Dhraakellian> anyone got an answer for that?
[12:20] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: yes they are boht on the network
[12:20] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: then why do you need the hostnames if they work fine
[12:21] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: the router is not getting the hostname of the desktop but it does see the hostname of the laptop
[12:21] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: it might be missing, but why do you need it, doesn't everything work?
[12:22] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone with ideas on why I get Make errors with Kirocker?
[12:22] <leiar> Is this the multiverse rep.? : deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:22] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: there are superkaraba widgets that could do the same thing that would be easier to install
[12:22] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: i want to be able to get to the desktop from my laptop using the hostname rather than needing the IP which is dynamic
[12:22] <hakaisou> Question.  How do I install additional language packs?
[12:23] <Pollywog> okay why is there nvidia driver for the -386 kernel but not for -generic in Feisty?
[12:23] <claydoh> leiar: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[12:23] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: ahh, dd-wrt could give a constant ip through dhcp, just an idea
[12:23] <Pollywog> maybe I should ask in #ubuntu-effects
[12:23] <claydoh> leiar: the main dapper repo, not necessarily the backports rep
[12:24] <leiar> claydoh: Haven't got any other multiverse repos in my list..
[12:24] <FroggyTheGreat> bonbonthejon - I'm about ready to look, yeah.  Got any suggestions or links to them?
[12:24] <bonbonthejon> leiar: you might want to use source-o-matic to get a full sources.list
[12:25] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: never used them, but I tried super karaba, which is in the repositories
[12:25] <Dhraakellian> superkaramba
[12:25] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: or there are panel applets to control amarok, but dont give cover art
[12:25] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: thanks :)
[12:25] <FroggyTheGreat> the repositories - what Adept looks in?
[12:25] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: yes
[12:25] <FroggyTheGreat> Done and done.  Thank you.
[12:26] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: it should be in adept
[12:26] <leiar> bonbonthejon: sorry, but I don't know about source-o-matic
[12:26] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic | leiar
[12:26] <ubotu> leiar: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:26] <Dhraakellian> http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php?xsortmode=new&search=1&type=38&name=amarok&user=&text=&sort=0&scorefilter=0&licence=99&page=0
[12:29] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: ^^ Dhraakellian's message
[12:29] <leiar> I got the repos for edgy, I've got dapper..
[12:30] <OptimusRex> no. Got into fdisk -l then typed d in the next line and hit enter but got bash: d: command not found
[12:30] <SubOn1> bonbonthejon: that is beside the point, i still need to access the other computer by hostname
[12:30] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: no -l, "sudo fdisk", then "d", then partition
[12:30] <bonbonthejon> SubOn1: sorry, dont know
[12:31] <leiar> sorry again, I chose the wrong version myself..
[12:31] <phoenixbyrd> moo
[12:32] <bonbonthejon> moo?
[12:32] <phoenixbyrd> copycat
[12:33] <bonbonthejon> !botsnack
[12:33] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:35] <ubuntu> Need help
[12:35] <bonbonthejon> !ask | ubuntu
[12:35] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:35] <leiar> ok, then I have java, flash.. Do I have to install java-plugin for firefox seperately
[12:36] <bonbonthejon> leiar: i dont know, try it, I guess
[12:36] <ubuntu> I was following a tutorial and they were saying to press ctrl+alt+f1 , so thats what ive done.Then i didnt know how to exit that so i restarted my computer.So now everytime i reboot my computer , after the kubuntu loading i have a black screen just like a kommand window where i can write things...
[12:37] <ubuntu> how can i go back to my kubuntu?
[12:37] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: what was the tutorial changing
[12:37] <ubuntu> it was for the mouse speed
[12:37] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: ctrl-alt-f1 went to a different terminal, ctrl-alt-f7 should be your desktop
[12:37] <ubuntu> but once i was in the ctrl atl f1 windows i didnt know what to write so i just rebooted.
[12:37] <ubuntu> oh
[12:37] <ubuntu> !
[12:38] <ubuntu> Thx =D
[12:38] <leiar> multiverse made it happen :-) what's the name of mplayer plugin for firefox?
[12:38] <bonbonthejon> leiar: search in adept
[12:38] <ubuntu> so when ill reboot when the black screen shows up i just press ctrl alt f7 ^
[12:38] <ubuntu> ???
[12:38] <sayers> How do I make KTorrent my native TOrrent Opener?
[12:38] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: possibly, what exactly did yo change
[12:38] <ubuntu> nothing
[12:38] <ubuntu> lol
[12:38] <ubuntu> i have to go brb in 5 min
[12:39] <leiar> bonbonthejon: yes, I don't use adept, I'm in console, you know..
[12:39] <bonbonthejon> leiar: ktorrent from console??
[12:39] <leiar> do I have to update in adept, if i did it in console?
[12:39] <bonbonthejon> leiar: no
[12:40] <leiar> bonbonthejon: I haven't said anything about ktorrent, you are mixing me with somone else :-)
[12:40] <sumguy231> leiar: : mplayer-mozilla, I believe. If you want to search for a package, use aptitude search or apt-cache search.
[12:40] <bonbonthejon> leiar: too many people to keep track of
[12:41] <sumguy231> Oops, sorry. I meant mozilla-mplayer.
[12:41] <leiar> bonbonthejon: a luxury problem, isn't it?
[12:42] <leiar> I mean, nice to have a lot of people here.
[12:42] <bonbonthejon> leiar: yeah, I didn't understand your last message :)
[12:42] <Dhraakellian> sayers: sounds like a KDE question rather than a kubuntu question, which means that I should be able to answer...
[12:42] <leiar> sumguy231: mozilla-mplayer
[12:42] <sumguy231> Yep.
[12:43] <Dhraakellian> sayers: kcontrol (kde control center) > KDE Components > File Associations
[12:43] <leiar> bonbonthejon: We say it in norwegian, If we have a problem wich really isn't a negative problem we cal it a luxury problem, see?
[12:43] <Dhraakellian> filter for "torrent"
[12:43] <bonbonthejon> leiar: i get it now. Lost in translation :)
[12:43] <Dhraakellian> and move KTorrent to the top in the Application Preference Order list
[12:43] <Dhraakellian> sayers: got that?
[12:44] <Dhraakellian> sayers: I'm assuming that by "native", you mean "default"
[12:44] <leiar> bye, and thanks a lot
[12:44] <bonbonthejon> leiar: take care
[12:44] <fati> my cd/dvd burners are being brought online through scsi emulation, i think this is causing problems for me, does anyone happen to know how to disable scsi emulation for devices at bootup?
[12:45] <sayers> Dhraakellian: just looked now
[12:47] <sayers> Dhraakellian: got it, not sure if it worked tho.
[12:47] <Dhraakellian> try opening a torrent file from your filemanager
[12:47] <Dhraakellian> (assuming that you're using a kde-based file manager or webbrowser)
[12:48] <Dhraakellian> it won't work for Firefox.  You'd have to set it up separately there
[12:48] <sayers> ty ty Dhraakellian
[12:48] <Dhraakellian> np np, sayers
[12:50] <OptimusRex> sudo fdisk d/dev/sda6 gives unable to open d/dev/sda6,
[12:51] <OptimusRex> sudo fdisk enter then d then enter gives bash: d: command not found
[12:51] <rizoma> ciao
[12:51] <rizoma> c'e' qualcuno che mi sa aiutare con i driver ntfs?
[12:52] <rizoma> quelli dentro installazione applicazioni poi non me li apre
[12:53] <thingy> !italian
[12:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:53] <Pollywog> fixed nvidia
[12:53] <Pollywog> now I can stop saying it is broken in Feisty :)
[12:54] <Dhraakellian> thingy: and here I was searching the channel list
[12:54] <thingy> If you come across #kubuntu-klingon lemme know
[12:54] <rizoma> sorry!
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: you're still doing it wrong, why not just use cfdisk
[12:55] <OptimusRex> give me the command for fdisk please then even though it keeps giving me a fatal error
[12:55] <Dhraakellian> thingy: or #kubuntu-quenya?
[12:55] <mooseisloose> If you want $100 for FREE then visit www.freakaddict.com and read the message on the homepage! It only requires a few seconds of work, it's quick and easy and best of all it could make you $100!!! (paypal only)
[12:56] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: do "sudo fdisk" that should get you in fdisk, it should ask for a command
[12:56] <Pollywog> !spam
[12:56] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[12:56] <thingy> Drive by spamming..darn it!
[12:56] <bonbonthejon> I want $100 for FREE :)
[12:56] <Tired_> Hi.  Can I simply tar up my whole disk with the Kubuntu install from the live cd to migrate it to a different physical drive, or is there a better way?
[12:56] <Graham> bonbonthejon: Really? I want 10000 for free.
[12:57] <Dhraakellian> Tired_: if you have the space, sure
[12:57] <Graham> That's like $20000
[12:57] <Pollywog> that is how Trump got rich, right?
[12:57] <Graham> He's a douche bag.
[12:57] <Tired_> Will that move all the /boot and swap and such?
[12:57] <tarelerulz> Is there away to install synaptic on kubuntu
[12:57] <leiar> I'm back. Forgot to install w32codecs. Isn't that package in multiverse?
[12:57] <Dhraakellian> Tired_: I've been on-and-off trying to figure out how to tar over the network to my mom's HD
[12:57] <Graham> Infact he's not because calling him a douchebag is a compliment because he really is a douche bag.
[12:57] <thingy> Tired_: Something like Partimage (http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page) is prob. a better choice for you...
[12:57] <Tired_> I installed Kubuntu to a 120GB I had handy, but my 250GB is here now, and I wanna move my existing install to it.
[12:58] <tarelerulz> How do you say yes to java sun licence ?
[12:58] <Dhraakellian> Tired_: doing it from the liveCD, you could tar up everything on your root partition
[12:58] <Tired_> Ah, sweet.  :)
[12:58] <leiar> tarelerulz: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[12:58] <Dhraakellian> Tired_: you wouldn't get swap in the tarball unless you're using a swapfile instead of a separate swap partition
[12:58] <leiar> where do I find w32codes?
[12:58] <Dhraakellian> and, afaik, that isn't very common these days
[12:58] <Tired_> I think I have a swap partition...I used the Feisty installer
[12:59] <bonbonthejon> !wmv | leiar
[12:59] <ubotu> leiar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:59] <Graham> Hey guys, how screwed am I? I'm at my mates house as you do and he's been interested in Linux, I offered him Kubuntu because I know it's very compatible. Anyway put it it and the wireless isn't working, no surprise.
[12:59] <OptimusRex> sudo cfdisk gives fatal error: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions. Press any key to exit cfdisk
[12:59] <Pollywog> Graham: what card does he have?
[12:59] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: then use fdisk
[12:59] <Graham> it's a USB dongle, not sure.
[12:59] <Pollywog> oic
[01:00] <Tired_> ... I have Norton Ghost...will that work to clone a Kubuntu drive?
[01:00] <thingy> Tired_: yes
[01:01] <Tired_> Oh, then I'll use it, then.  :)
[01:01] <Graham> Anyway, the installer is oblivious to the fact the hard drives are setup with raid and that thers 1 small fat partition and the rest of it is all NTFS, I end up erasing his entire second drive which had nothing on it. Kubuntu is on.
[01:01] <Pollywog> why would someone clone a drive like that, to have a backup?
[01:01] <Tired_> I got a better drive
[01:01] <Pollywog> oic
[01:01] <bourakna> HELLO
[01:01] <bonbonthejon> hi bourakna
[01:01] <Graham> Restart and BAM! Grub error 21, grub doesn't seem to like Raids, or at least his raid...
[01:02] <Graham> So I'm shitting bricks because I completely screwed my mates computer over. So I tell him I can sort it out with the windows CD he got with the computer... which he has lost...
[01:03] <Pollywog> Graham: the next Freespire will be Ubuntu-based
[01:03] <Pollywog> Freespire has very good hardware detection
[01:03] <Pollywog> but I am not sure about RAID
[01:03] <Graham> I think it was the raid... it just didn't see it.
[01:03] <bonbonthejon> Graham: do "lspci" or "lsusb" to see what type of card it is
[01:03] <Graham> I'm gona go and sort it out.
[01:04] <Graham> bonbonthejon: It's a) my mates computer b) other side of town
[01:04] <Graham> I got rid of the raid setup and installed Kubuntu on the first drive, all his stuff well and truley gone and it works now... except for wireless which means I can't give him anything he needs...
[01:04] <Graham> At that point I gave up.
[01:05] <Graham> I'm gona go back and just flatten his PC, get rid of the raid and put windows on primary and linux on secondary and go home.
[01:05] <bourakna> HELLO
[01:05] <leiar> Isn' there a repo giving me w32codecs and libdvdcss?
[01:05] <Graham> Yes.
[01:05] <Graham> It's one of the official Kubuntu ones, go into Adept and enable it.
[01:05] <bourakna> YA TIL D FRANCIAS ICI
[01:06] <ubuntu> re
[01:06] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: any news
[01:06] <ubuntu> who<s the one who helped me with the black screen a bit early^
[01:06] <ubuntu> ??/
[01:06] <ubuntu> oh hello bonbon
[01:06] <ubuntu> WHen i press alt ctrl f7 the blackscreen kinda freeze and i cant write anything .
[01:06] <bonbonthejon> !dvd | leiar
[01:06] <ubotu> leiar: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:07] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: then push ctrl-alt-f1 to get back
[01:07] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to try and reconfigure X
[01:08] <happytiger> Hi Guys. I am running feisty, with all updates in place. I have many problems with java applications, that stop responding to keyboard input. Apps like Oracle Jbuilder and Aqua Data studio. After an sql query Jbuilder will stop responding to keyboard input, but I can use the mouse to select save and close of the program?????
[01:08] <ubuntu> whats x? btw when i push ctrl alt f1 it show me a kommand windows in full screen
[01:08] <Graham> happytiger: It's a java feature, they think if they make it really shitty nobody will pirate it.
[01:09] <GWillakers> Hey guys, when I click a link in Thunderbird it always opens with konqueror.  how can I make it to open with firefox by default?
[01:09] <happytiger> Hehe
[01:09] <happytiger> But is there no workaround?
[01:09] <cWolfe> GWillakers, start menu, system settings->default applications
[01:09] <happytiger> To unshit the java apps?
[01:10] <ubuntu> any idea of what i could do bonbon^
[01:10] <thingy> happytiger: Could be the jdk you are using...are you using the sun jdk or the gnu one?
[01:10] <ubuntu> ??
[01:10] <happytiger> I tried both jre 5 and jre 6 from SUN same issues
[01:10] <ubuntu> First i tought << maybe ctrlaltf1 is just like a big kommand window and , maybe my desktop is behing it? >> but ive tryed many things to close it doesnt work
[01:11] <Pollywog> ubuntu did you try ctrl-alt-f7 ?
[01:11] <GWillakers> it was already set to firefox yet it still uses konqueror.
[01:11] <ubuntu> Yes
[01:11] <ubuntu> it freeze
[01:11] <thingy> happytiger: type in java -version on the console and what jvm does it report?
[01:11] <ubuntu> i cant do anything when i do ctrl alt f7
[01:11] <Pollywog> you can just type exit in that console to exit it
[01:11] <ubuntu> ...
[01:11] <ubuntu> maybe
[01:11] <ubuntu> ...*why didnt i think of that*
[01:11] <ubuntu> ok ill try this brb
[01:11] <ubuntu> xD
[01:11] <happytiger> Hi Guys. I am running feisty, with all updates in place. I have many problems with java applications, that stop responding to keyboard input. Apps like Oracle Jbuilder and Aqua Data studio. After an sql query Jbuilder will stop responding to keyboard input, but I can use the mouse to select save and close of the program?????
[01:11] <happytiger> ups
[01:12] <happytiger> java version "1.6.0"
[01:12] <happytiger> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[01:12] <happytiger> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode)
[01:12] <GWillakers> cWolfe : it was already set to firefox yet it still uses konqueror.
[01:12] <happytiger> But i tried to run jre 5 from sun to
[01:12] <happytiger> same freeze happens
[01:12] <happytiger> It also happens when I run netbeans
[01:13] <Pollywog> happytiger: why not install a slightly older java version
[01:13] <Pollywog> ?
[01:13] <happytiger> Though netbeans doent die then I can make the keybord input happen again if i force it to open a subwindow
[01:13] <thingy> happytiger: ok sounds like you issue is keyboard focus related and not java related
[01:13] <happytiger> i get same results with jre 5
[01:13] <cWolfe> hmm, GWillakers  is there an about:config entry in thunderbird?
[01:13] <Pollywog> oic
[01:13] <thingy> happytiger: which window focus model are you using?
[01:13] <Pollywog> how did you install Java?
[01:14] <happytiger> How to dertemine that?
[01:14] <Pollywog> sure you don't have more than one version installed?
[01:14] <happytiger> I installed java via apt
[01:14] <Pollywog> k
[01:14] <happytiger> And I use galternatives to choose wich java version
[01:14] <Pollywog> k then I don't know why the problems
[01:15] <happytiger> I is really weird bug
[01:15] <happytiger> All other programs run fine no ocrash no keyboard freeze
[01:16] <GWillakers> cWolfe : note sure how to do an about:config in thunderbird, i've been driving myself crazy trying to find the thunderbird preference that picks Konqueror.
[01:16] <GWillakers> note=not
[01:16] <happytiger> Only when I run java apps like Jbulder, Netbeans both version 5.5 and the new 6, and with Aqua data studi, but Eclipse never freesez on me it always work
[01:16] <gemidjy_> anyone knows how to make dhcp not to overwrite my resolv.conf ?
[01:17] <thingy> happytiger: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140981  no workarounds listed in the bug...but im still looking
[01:21] <ubuntu> exit doesnt work
[01:21] <ubuntu> =,((((((((9
[01:22] <Supaplex> ubuntu: exit on/from what/where? you're far too vague.
[01:22] <happytiger> thingy: It a really weird bug
[01:23] <ubuntu> Ok im on the live cd right now.Because last time i used kubuntu i pressed ctrl+alt+F1 , i didnt know how to get out of there so i just restarted my comp.BUt now everytime i restart , after the kubuntu loading , i only have a blackscreen where i can write thing.
[01:24] <Supaplex> ubuntu: does startx work?
[01:24] <ubuntu> what is startx
[01:24] <Supaplex> startx (1)           - initialize an X session
[01:24] <Supaplex> are you running off the livecd now? what howto did you follow?
[01:25] <ubuntu> (sorry i am new to kubuntu , i installed yesterday )
[01:25] <ubuntu> Yes im on the live cd right now
[01:25] <ubuntu> no i havnt try start x
[01:25] <thingy> happytiger: No luck with the google searches...your options are: a) Mess about with the different keyboard focus models in KWIN (use kcontrol/Window Behaviour and kcontrol/Window-specific settings)  b) Use a different windows manager.
[01:26] <Supaplex> ubuntu: and why do you think a live cd is better?
[01:26] <leiar> I find it difficult to install w32codecs, I guess I have to have it to play web TV
[01:27] <ubuntu> ???
[01:27] <ubuntu> wtf
[01:27] <ubuntu> im on the live cd right now BECAUSE i cant go on my installation of kubuntu
[01:27] <ubuntu> Because of the blackscreen
[01:27] <leiar> Isn't it possible to apt-get w32codecs
[01:27] <ubuntu> Im here to resquest help
[01:27] <Supaplex> ubuntu: I'm attempting to understand exactly what you're up to. don't get hostile on me :)
[01:28] <ubuntu> sorry but im working kubuntu since 3 am this morning
[01:28] <ubuntu> Im a bit tired =/
[01:28] <HymnToLife> leiar, yes it is, if you have the correct repos enabled
[01:28] <Supaplex> ubuntu: a working console is ok afaik, that's fixable w/o the cd.  If you need bedrest, I can't help you with that problem.
[01:28] <Supaplex> ubuntu: if you can boot to a login prompt w/o the cd, reboot and disregard the live cd.
[01:28] <ubuntu> ...
[01:28] <ubuntu> so what should i do
[01:29] <Supaplex> after you login as yourself, run startx. that should load X.  Do you have anyway to communicate here while doing all this?
[01:30] <ubuntu> no=(
[01:30] <happytiger> thingy: Ill try mess around with the choises you agve me thanks
[01:30] <leiar> ubuntu: find another box to install on. I've never experienced black screen, and I've installed both laptops and desktops
[01:30] <leiar> anybody who can tip me on an easy way to install w32codecs?
[01:30] <leiar> If you don't use w32codecs, how can you play web tv and dvds?
[01:30] <Supaplex> ubuntu: can you tell me what howto you followed? I can review it and come up with some ideas why you're in this situation.
[01:31] <ubuntu> mmm 2  sec
[01:31] <ubuntu> !mouse
[01:31] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:31] <leiar> HymnToLife: could you please give me the repos?
[01:31] <leiar> I run dapper drake
[01:31] <HymnToLife> !w32codecs | leiar
[01:31] <ubotu> leiar: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:31] <ubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:31] <Supaplex> ubuntu: oh, so you enabled extra mouse buttons from these howtos?
[01:32] <HymnToLife> and a nice highlight for Mr. S. :p
[01:32] <HymnToLife> (if he was there)
[01:32] <ubuntu> i was following these instruction , i didnt read everything and just tested ctrl alt f1 , i didnt know how to get out so i rebooted
[01:33] <Supaplex> ubuntu: well C+A+F1 won't cause that to happen. I think you modified the xorg.conf or installed/uninstalled something else to cause that.
[01:33] <ubuntu> i didnt do anything.I just rebooted with crlt alt delete
[01:33] <Supaplex> C+A+F1 through F12 will switch between all (configured) virtual terminals. X usually occupies 7, eg C+A+F7 puts you back in X if it's still running.
[01:34] <ubuntu> ive tried c+a+f7 but it freeze
[01:34] <Supaplex> ubuntu: ok. have you mounted any target filesystems while on the livecd?
[01:34] <ubuntu> no
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: what video card do you have
[01:35] <ubuntu> nvidia gforce 7600GS
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> hmm
[01:35] <ubuntu> Asus nvidia 7600GS
[01:36] <Supaplex> ubuntu: cat /proc/partitions to review what partitions the kernel is aware of.  You should be able to mount your root filesystem on /mnt and chroot into it and inspect further.
[01:37] <ubuntu> ...im not all confortable with that . ive installed kubuntu yesterday so i dont know how to use it that much
[01:38] <ubuntu_> how i can i open my pendrive
[01:38] <ubuntu_> ???
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: what did you change, X doesnt stop working for no reason
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: mount it
[01:38] <Supaplex> ubuntu: I guess you could reinstall, but you'll loose any new data you don't have backed up.  Try rebooting to the system anyway,and run "startx" after you login.
[01:38] <ubuntu_> bonbonthejon:  how can i make it ??
[01:38] <ubuntu_> bonbonthejon:  my hd aren`t showing too =/
[01:38] <ubuntu> i havnt change anything! Ive just pressed ctrl alt f1 , it didnt work so i restarted with c+a+del
[01:39] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: what did you change
[01:39] <Supaplex> ubuntu: for the record, what you've told us so far, should not produce the symptomps you've stated. A reboot would start your login/display manger, and drop to your X11 desktop.
[01:39] <ubuntu> Ok ill try start x
[01:39] <Supaplex> it's one word, all lowercase.
[01:39] <ubuntu> i type that in c+a+f1 ?
[01:39] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: yes
[01:39] <ubuntu> ok
[01:39] <ubuntu_> how can i mount my hds and view my pendrive ????????????
[01:39] <ubuntu> thanx
[01:40] <Supaplex> ubuntu: yes, after you login at the login prompt.
[01:40] <ubuntu> I hope ill be back on kubuntu ...
[01:40] <ubuntu> no the live cd
[01:40] <ubuntu> thx
[01:40] <Supaplex> correct.
[01:40] <Supaplex> ubuntu_: just plug it in?
[01:40] <eams> Ubuntu, if you did ctrl+alt+f1 you can press ctrl+alt+f7, try that in instaled Kubuntu
[01:41] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: do "df -h", it should show your hard drives
[01:41] <Supaplex> eams: he says he tried that, and it frooze.  For all I know it's just an empty blank screen because X wasn't running there.
[01:41] <ubuntu_> bonbonthejon: on kubuntu sheell ???
[01:41] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: yes
[01:42] <ubuntu_> it shows no HD
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: are you on a live cd
[01:42] <ubuntu_> =/ yes
[01:42] <vidar_> hello
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: I dont know then
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> vidar_: hi
[01:44] <vidar_> how are things?
[01:45] <eams> Supaplex, but where he did that? If he dit'it in the LiveCD never will work...
[01:46] <navid> Hey all...
[01:46] <ubuntu_>  i have 2 hds
[01:46] <navid> Does anyone here use Konversation?
[01:46] <ubuntu_> of 80gb
[01:46] <ubuntu_> how can i know what is sata ?
[01:46] <Meglo> I LOST THE GAME
[01:46] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: by the device name
[01:46] <eams> navid, I do
[01:46] <Supaplex> eams: ahh true. a reboot should cure that anyway, you'd think. right?
[01:46] <bonbonthejon> Meglo: great, now I did too
[01:46] <navid> Wow -- I never knew Konversation was such a great IRC client.
[01:46] <ubuntu_> =/ i dont know
[01:46] <ubuntu_> im viewing then on install
[01:47] <Supaplex> irssi+screen > * ;)
[01:47] <HymnToLife> navid, that's normal, it isn't :p
[01:47] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: sd_ would be an SATA one
[01:47] <HymnToLife> bonbonthejon, not anymore
[01:47] <HymnToLife> all HDs ae sdX in Feisty
[01:47] <freshmeat> Tell me, eams... how would it be possible for me to connect to a server in a seperate window?
[01:47] <freshmeat> ...is there a switch for this?
[01:47] <HymnToLife> freshmeat, what kind of server ?
[01:47] <bonbonthejon> HymnToLife: ah, then how can you tell
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> freshmeat: a server?
[01:48] <freshmeat> In mIRC, for instance, the switch is '-m' in connecting to a server on a seperate area.
[01:48] <eams> Supaplex. Yes, I think... Well, I don't now too much about Linux...
[01:48] <freshmeat> Any kind of server, nosrednaekim.
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: I know there is lsscsi, but you need to install that
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> freshmeat: ah.. a IRC one..
[01:48] <HymnToLife> freshmeat, in which client ?
[01:48] <ubuntu_>  i know the device name
[01:48] <freshmeat> Sure, nosrednaekim -- sorry for not making that clear.
[01:48] <ubuntu_> how can i mount it ?::??
[01:48] <freshmeat> HymnToLife: Konversation.
[01:48] <HymnToLife> use xchat
[01:49] <lobster> meglo: the game?  Do I know how to play the game?
[01:49] <Meglo> Here let me show you
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> lobster: search wiki pedia for
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> "the game"
[01:49] <freshmeat> Well, HymnToLife, it seems that Konversation is winning me over xchat.
[01:49] <freshmeat> ...a great client.
[01:49] <vinisterx> Brb
[01:49] <HymnToLife> konversation winning over xchat ?
[01:50] <HymnToLife> seems we're back on April 1st, I must bring my DeLoren to maintenance :p
[01:50] <ubuntu_>  i know the device name
[01:51] <ubuntu_> how can i mount it ?::??
[01:51] <HymnToLife> mount -t filesystem /dev/something /somewhere
[01:51] <freshmeat> Wow -- this is much better.
[01:52] <freshmeat> Guys -- at the moment, I'm running gubuntu instead of kubuntu.
[01:52] <HymnToLife> gubuntu, what's that ?
[01:52] <freshmeat> Would it be possible to convert to kubuntu from gubuntu?
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[01:52] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:52] <freshmeat> HymnToLife: gnome-ubuntu
[01:52] <HymnToLife> oh, I see
[01:52] <ubuntu_> i read
[01:52] <ubuntu_> command not found
[01:52] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu with a *REAL* gnome ?
[01:53] <freshmeat> I guess, HymnToLife.
[01:53] <freshmeat> I was wondering if it would be possible to convert to kubuntu from gnome-ubuntu.
[01:53] <HymnToLife> maybe I would switch back to it, then
[01:53] <HymnToLife> freshmeat, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <eams> freshmeat, I'm sorry, I was looking for that, but I coldn't find it...
[01:54] <freshmeat> Ah, HymnToLife.
[01:54] <freshmeat> I'll definately check that out.
[01:55] <ubuntu> erf
[01:55] <ubuntu> =(
[01:55] <ubuntu> Im back on live cd guys...
[01:55] <Pollywog> ubuntu: having trouble installing ubuntu?
[01:55] <ubuntu> no
[01:56] <ubuntu> BUt
[01:56] <Pollywog> k
[01:56] <freshmeat> Wow...
[01:56] <freshmeat> Thanks, HymnToLife.
[01:56] <ubuntu> Let me show you my problem
[01:56] <freshmeat> What would be the reasons to hate gnome?
[01:56] <freshmeat> ...are there any general criticisms of it?
[01:56] <Pollywog> Gnome is nice, gotten much better recently
[01:56] <lobster> bonbonthejon: nofo info the game :(
[01:56] <eams> Ubuntu, I don't know too much, but I want to Know what is hapening with you
[01:57] <ubuntu_> how can i log as root :
[01:57] <ubuntu_> ?
[01:57] <Pollywog> you want criticisms, read the now defunt TUX magazine
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> freshmeat: this conversation is offtopic, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:57] <thingy> freshmeat: People don't gnomes...because they look like tiny little people...but they don't move...just sit there in the garden...staring at stuff. Gnomes are weird!
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> freshmeat: not configureable enough is ussually the main gripe people have with it
[01:57] <ubuntu_> ?
[01:57] <ubuntu_> how can i log as root :
[01:57] <ubuntu> Yesterday ive installed kubuntu . Today i was following a tutorial and i pressed ctrl+alt+f1.It opened a big black window , i didnt know how to get out so i rebooted my computer. Now everytime i reboot i got a big black screen. Ive tried ctrl+alt+F6 , ive also tryed startx but nothing works....
[01:57] <freshmeat> I see.
[01:57] <freshmeat> Sorry...
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !root | ubuntu
[01:57] <ubotu> ubuntu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:57] <freshmeat> I will refrain from being off-topic here.
[01:58] <HymnToLife> we're on a KDE chan, GNome-bashing is not offtopic :p
[01:58] <Pollywog> TUX magazine had a section called "Mango Parfait" and Mango was very critical of Gnome, it was very funny
[01:59] <ubuntu> what should i do now?
[01:59] <Pollywog> you can still get the old issues
[01:59] <eams> ubuntu_ in liveCD in a terminal "sudo passwd" to change password, then put someting and then "so root" and tour password
[01:59] <lobster> ubuntu: what about ctrl-alt-F7 ?
[01:59] <ubuntu> Same thing nothing happens or the screen freeze
[01:59] <Pollywog> ubuntu are you using nvidia?
[02:00] <eams> ubuntu, in the big black screen press ctrl+alt+F7
[02:00] <eams> Did you tried that?
[02:01] <ubuntu> yes
[02:01] <ubuntu> im using nvidia
[02:01] <ubuntu> ctrl+a+f7 does nothing , or freeze.
[02:01] <Pollywog> can you get a console?
[02:01] <ubuntu> yes
[02:01] <Pollywog> with ctrl-altf2 for example?
[02:01] <ubuntu> yes
[02:01] <Pollywog> k, are you using gdm or kdm?
[02:01] <ubuntu> ???
[02:01] <ubuntu> kubuntu?
[02:02] <ubuntu> *newbie*
[02:02] <Pollywog> k then kdm
[02:02] <Pollywog> in a console try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'
[02:02] <Pollywog> then in the same console try 'startx'
[02:02] <eams> mmm, that's strange... ubuntu, if you install Kubuntu yesterday I think you can reinstall or try to repair with your CD...
[02:03] <ubuntu> startx doesnt work.
[02:03] <Pollywog> we are interested in the errors
[02:03] <Pollywog> what are the errors from startx?
[02:03] <ubuntu> failed to initialize core device
[02:03] <eams> ubuntu_ can you start as a root?
[02:03] <ubuntu> i think thats the last line i get
[02:03] <Pollywog> k
[02:03] <Pollywog> kubuntu Feisty right?
[02:04] <thingy> ubuntu: Which steps from the serialmouse howto did you carry out
[02:04] <ubuntu> number 1
[02:04] <thingy> ubuntu: and?
[02:04] <ubuntu> i readed the line n ive tested it
[02:04] <ubuntu> c+a+f1
[02:04] <ubuntu> thats it
[02:04] <niall> is it possible to run a command on kubuntu start up?
[02:04] <ubuntu> i didnt knew how to get out of this window so i rebooted
[02:05] <Pollywog> niall: I assume you are using kde so you can put scripts in ~/.kde/startup/
[02:05] <thingy> ubuntu: if your in the live cd now, is your hard disk mounted?
[02:05] <ubuntu> no
[02:05] <thingy> ubuntu: do you know how to mount it?
[02:05] <Pollywog> oops it is ~/.kde/autostart/
[02:05] <ubuntu> in the boot section of my bios ive disable my hard drive to boot on my cd
[02:06] <ubuntu> yes in the bios
[02:06] <thingy> ubuntu: no..thats not what I meant
[02:06] <thingy> ubuntu: on the live cd, open a konsole
[02:06] <ubuntu> ok
[02:06] <SubOn1> How do i share files on one Kubuntu box with anothe kubuntu box?
[02:07] <thingy> ubuntu: type in the word: "mount" and paste the contents into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then paste the url it give you here
[02:07] <Pollywog> SubOn1: you can use NFS or FISH
[02:07] <stittel> SubOn1: Depends on what you wont.
[02:07] <tarelerulz> I am trying to install java runtime everment and Get the licence and I can't seem to say ok to the licence
[02:07] <stittel> SubOn1: Properly, you use NFS.
[02:07] <thingy> tarelerulz: press tab once and then enter
[02:07] <Pollywog> even Samba though that is usually for Windows machines
[02:07] <SubOn1> it says NFS is not installed, what is the package name?
[02:07] <stittel> SubOn1: If it is just for "sometimes copying a file over", other things will be more easy.
[02:07] <tarelerulz> Thanks Thingy .
[02:07] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19550/
[02:08] <stittel> SubOn1: Like setting up an SSH daemon and using sftp/scp (fully supported in Konquero).
[02:08] <eams> thingy, read this, and tell me what do you think: <ubuntu> in the boot section of my bios ive disable my hard drive to boot on my cd
[02:08] <SubOn1> stittel: it is for photos and streaming music files to a player
[02:08] <stittel> SubOn1: Setting up SSH is a good idea anyway, so you can access your box if the display has freezed.
[02:08] <Pollywog> stittel: thanks for all your help with my nvidia and VMware problems.  They are fixed.
[02:08] <stittel> Pollywog: Great! What did you do?
[02:09] <SubOn1> stittel: yeah thats another thing i want to set up remote login, but i dont know how
[02:09] <Pollywog> I installed the vmware packages from ubuntu and installed workstation 6 beta
[02:09] <tarelerulz> thingy , pushing tab onice and then enter did not work
[02:09] <thingy> eams: that sentence just means, he didnt know how to change the boot order and had to disable the hdd to boot via cdrom.
[02:09] <Pollywog> and I am not quite certain how I fixed nvidia but I removed all nvidia packages and then installed  nvidia-glx-new
[02:09] <stratman4300> is workstation 6 free???
[02:09] <Pollywog> no not free
[02:09] <Pollywog> but server would not work for me
[02:10] <tarelerulz> I can make the whole line black and my the word ok black
[02:10] <Pollywog> and I already buy workstation anyway
[02:10] <thingy> tarelerulz: are you installing from a download from sun's site or via a .deb file?
[02:10] <SubOn1> What is the package to install for NFS?
[02:10] <eams> thingy: Yes, how can he mount his hd if he disable his hd?
[02:10] <stittel> SubOn1: Install openssh-server.
[02:11] <Pollywog> stittel: you were very patient, thanks for that
[02:11] <stittel> Pollywog: And the Ubuntu Nvidia packages I suppose?
[02:11] <SubOn1> stittel: k...
[02:11] <niall> got it, thanks Pollywog
[02:11] <tarelerulz> I am use apept to insatll java
[02:11] <tarelerulz> I am adept to install java runtime everent
[02:11] <Pollywog> stittel: yes I removed all of them and then just installed nvidia-glx-new
[02:11] <stittel> SubOn1: If you just need to copy files occasionally and if you have running SSH anyway, you can just use it.
[02:12] <stittel> Pollywog: Alright! Have fun using Kubuntu. :)
[02:12] <thingy> eams: hmm he can't
[02:12] <tarelerulz> I would download the deb ,but I can't seem to get deb not to open it with kate
[02:12] <Pollywog> ty
[02:12] <SubOn1> stittel: it says it is installed
[02:12] <eams> thingy: I just want to help, and I don't know too much...
[02:12] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: you dont open a .deb with kate
[02:12] <stittel> SubOn1: Check if it is runing.
[02:12] <thingy> ubuntu: what type of hard disk is it? ide or scsi or sata?
[02:12] <Pollywog> and glxgears and glxinfo tell me all is well
[02:13] <ubuntu> sata
[02:13] <stittel> SubOn1: type "ps -A | grep ssh" on console.
[02:13] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: in konqueror, there is a menu option to install
[02:13] <SubOn1> stittel: i am logged in... so yeah it works
[02:13] <thingy> tarelerulz: are you trying to install jdk 6 or 5?
[02:13] <SubOn1> stittel: can i run X through ssh like this?
[02:13] <bonbonthejon> SubOn1: yes
[02:13] <tarelerulz> I am trying to install 5 java
[02:13] <SubOn1> How can I run X through ssh and how can i transfer files?
[02:14] <thingy> tarelerulz: ubuntu: do you recall your partitioning scheme?
[02:14] <thingy> ack
[02:14] <stittel> SubOn1: Yes, in general you can use SSH to run X applications on anohter box.
[02:14] <thingy> ubuntu: do you recall your partitioning scheme?
[02:14] <ubuntu> recall? scheme?
[02:14] <ubuntu> ( im french sorrryyy )
[02:14] <tarelerulz> ext3 is the partition type
[02:14] <thingy> ubuntu: how did you partition the hard disk
[02:14] <thingy> tarelerulz: sorry that msg wasn't for you
[02:14] <stittel> SubOn1: If SSH is running and configured to do file transfer (should be default), you can just enter sftp://username@myhost into konqueror and access the files this way.
[02:14] <ubuntu> when i installed kubuntu yesterday
[02:14] <thingy> tarelerulz: did you want to install java 5 or java 6?
[02:15] <ubuntu> i telled him to format everything and install kubuntu
[02:15] <tarelerulz> I would like any newer java
[02:15] <thingy> tarelerulz: please put my name in front of your messages...else I can't follow what you say...its harder!
[02:15] <tarelerulz> I got the bin file and it said it could not install java it could not find sfv
[02:15] <Pollywog> tarelerulz: if you want to install a version newer than what ubuntu has, use java-package
[02:16] <SubOn1> yay
[02:16] <tarelerulz> thingy,  I try to install from bin and adept .
[02:16] <SubOn1> ty
[02:16] <stittel> SubOn1: Is the ssh server running on your system? Just checke by typine "ps -A | grep ssh" on console.
[02:16] <Pollywog> java-package is a package that makes a deb from the jre tarballs
[02:16] <thingy> tarelerulz: one more question...did you want the jdk or the jre?
[02:17] <Pollywog> so that your other packages will know about the java you install
[02:17] <SubOn1> stittel: yes
[02:17] <eams> I'm sorry, I don't speak English very well, can someone tell me what widget means? It is like a class?
[02:17] <tarelerulz> Thingy, what is the differents ? I just want to run something that use java like frostwire
[02:17] <Pollywog> I use that because I learned that in my debian days
[02:17] <stittel> SubOn1: Do you have access to another box right now, so you can test it?
[02:17] <Pollywog> widget refers to a gui component
[02:17] <SubOn1> stittel: hahah woops i logged in to my local syatem
[02:17] <ubuntu> so what should i do?
[02:18] <thingy> tarelerulz: then you want the jre...type in sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre in a konsole window
[02:18] <stittel> SubOn1: What exactly have you tried right now?
[02:18] <SubOn1> stittel: how can i get my desktop computer to tell my router its hostname so i can connect to it by the hostname?
[02:18] <stittel> SubOn1: If I remember correctly, the default configuration will allow you to login and copy files from/to your systme.
[02:18] <ubuntu> I dont want that to happen anymore in the future , if it does , i will not reinstall kubuntu everytime i hit ctrl alt f1 =((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[02:18] <stittel> SubOn1: How big is your network, i. e. how many computers have you got/
[02:19] <SubOn1> 2
[02:19] <stittel> SubOn1: Are IP statically or assigned dynamically?
[02:19] <stittel> ubuntu: That should be easily preventable. :)
[02:20] <tarelerulz> Thingy, I get that something else is use "/var/lib/dpkg/lock".
[02:20] <Pollywog> tarelerulz: that happens when you already have apt-get running
[02:20] <SubOn1> stittel: dhcp, also it seems sshd is not running on the desktop
[02:21] <Pollywog> sure you don't have adept or some other apt running?
[02:21] <thingy> tarelerulz: shut down adept
[02:21] <stittel> SubOn1: If you want to keep assigning IP adresses the way you to, you need to setup a DNS server.
[02:21] <eams> Pollywog, I've a work, and my teacher did a question, about classes, but he says that buttons and windows are... And in the gtkmm documentation says widget... I'm confused...
[02:21] <stittel> SubOn1: I, however, would prefer to assign IP statically. Give 192.168.0.1 to your server and 192.168.0.2 to your desktop.
[02:21] <Pollywog> yes the buttons and windows are widgets, I don't think C++ classes are widgets
[02:22] <tarelerulz> I get the same error
[02:22] <stittel> SubOn1: If IPs are assigned statically, you can just add the hostname to /etc/hosts and they will be resolvable without a namesever.
[02:22] <tarelerulz> Thingy, I closed adept and I still get that error.
[02:22] <SubOn1> stittel: no my desktop is my server and my laptop is the one i want to keep as dhcp at least
[02:22] <Pollywog> but there are classes that have the word widget in their name
[02:22] <eams> Mmm, so I've a big problem...
[02:22] <stittel> SubOn1: The configure your DHCP server to always give out the same IP address to your notebook.
[02:23] <eams> Pollywog thank you
[02:23] <SubOne> stittel: I don't think my router can do that
[02:24] <Pollywog> eams: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+widget&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[02:24] <SubOne> stittel: I installed opensshd-server on the desktop, now how do i start it
[02:24] <stittel> SubOne: If your server is always turned on when you use the notebook, let your server play the DHCP server.
[02:24] <stittel> SubOne: Check if it is started automatically.
[02:24] <SubOne> stittel: how the hell do i do that :p
[02:25] <stittel> SubOne: "ps -A | grep ssh"
[02:25] <Pollywog> SubOne:  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[02:25] <Pollywog> but in some distros you have to enable it to start
[02:26] <SubOne> stittel: no it was started i accidentally was typing -a
[02:26] <Pollywog> I think that in Ubuntu it is enabled when you install it
[02:26] <DerekS> is there a place where i can get a description of the different types of panels in kde?
[02:26] <eams> Pollywog thank you, that's very good!
[02:26] <Pollywog> :)
[02:26] <stittel> SubOne: Alright. To ease things you can create password-less keypairs for each host and then log-in without having to type the password.
[02:26] <ejupin> How can I default one particular player for videos.. whenever I try to play something, it never seems to know how to open it..
[02:27] <stittel> SubOne: This you will probably want to do on a 2-computer setup.
[02:27] <SubOne> stittel: Well first i have to setup the desktop as the DHCP server soemhow right
[02:27] <stittel> ejupin: Why don't you want to switch to static IPs entirely/
[02:27] <ubuntu_> hp m7360n not seeing cf reader w/ feisty boot disk.  Is CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN enabled?
[02:27] <stittel> Pardon.
[02:28] <stittel> SubOne: Why don't you want to switch to static IPs entirely? DHCP is not very much useful with just 2 computers.
[02:28] <Pollywog> ejupin: in Konqueror (is that what you use?) settings > configure konqueror > file associations
[02:28] <SubOne> stittel: because i take my laptop with me and i need to connect to other networks with dhcp
[02:28] <ejupin> pollywog: firefox, but i can use konqueror for videos
[02:29] <stittel> SubOne: So?
[02:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, are their any grub experts in here because I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong
[02:29] <stittel> SubOne: Are you using network-manager?
[02:29] <SubOne> stittel: KNetworkManager
[02:30] <CPrgmSwR2> I installed kubuntu with no boot loader because I have one with gentoo and I added a line to boot kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 but I get kernel panic unable to mount hdb1
[02:30] <stittel> SubOne: I am not an expert on this software, but can't you set "locations" there?
[02:30] <stittel> SubOne: Like a "mobile" location for use with DHCP and a "home" location with static IP?
[02:30] <Pollywog> yes one can set profiles/locations in KDE
[02:30] <Pollywog> in the networking setup
[02:31] <SubOne> stittel: "Network Profiles" maybe, i didn't realize it was possible... my old network manager i dont think allowed it
[02:31] <Pollywog> system settings > networking
[02:31] <Pollywog> system settings > network settings
[02:31] <stittel> SubOne: Yes, this is what you probably want.
[02:32] <Pollywog> I do that with my laptop
[02:32] <SubOne> stittel: so you suggest i should setup both computers with static IP and then just add each other to the hosts files
[02:32] <stittel> SubOne: Yes.
[02:32] <SubOne> stittel: ok, hold on
[02:34] <ubuntu_> hp m7360n not seeing cf reader w/ feisty boot disk.  Is CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN enabled?  Trick is, seeing CompactFlash is a show stopper.  Won't install until I know how to make it work.  Help anyone?
[02:35] <Pollywog> I have WinTV-HVR... anyone gotten them to work in Linux?
[02:35] <Pollywog> I tried it with MythTV in Debian some time ago but it would not quite work
[02:35] <Dekkard> is the compact flash card from a camera?
[02:35] <ubuntu_> Yes.
[02:35] <thingy> ubuntu_: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y on the feisty kernel
[02:36] <Pollywog> no it is a WinTV USB stick
[02:36] <Dekkard> have you tried leaving it in the camera and using gphoto?
[02:36] <SubOn1> ok i have a static ip now lemme setup the other comp
[02:36] <ubuntu_> No...  Might work though.  Good idea...
[02:37] <Pollywog> SubOn1: if you have a router like the Linksys broadband routers you can have that act as DHCP server if you need that
[02:37] <Kr4t05> Hey, is anyone else having issues with KTorrent crashing with a SIGSEV?
[02:37] <Pollywog> and use the MAC address to assign the same address to a certain MAC
[02:37] <SubOn1> crap how do i save a file in nano
[02:38] <avalon_> Is there any way to grab all the images alone from a site? Like a spider except for images only?
[02:38] <stittel> Pollywog: That's what I suggested, but SubOn1 thinks his router isn't capable of doing that.
[02:38] <Pollywog> avalon: curl
[02:38] <Pollywog> oic
[02:38] <osiris> avalon_, i think there are firefox extensions that will do that
[02:38] <Pollywog> stittel: oic
[02:38] <stittel> SubOn1: CTRL+X and it asks for saving.
[02:38] <Kr4t05> avalon_: Maybe a wget shell script.
[02:38] <SubOn1> stittel: no no it does work as a DHCP server, but it wont give me a 'static' DHCP address based onmy MAC
[02:38] <avalon_> Can they handle the fact that a link must be clicked to get to the full image?
[02:39] <stittel> SubOn1: Which is what Pollywog has been suggestion.
[02:39] <SubOn1> k
[02:39] <Mena> Where to locate my colors schemes
[02:40] <Mena> where they saved
[02:40] <Pollywog> my Linksys WRT-54GS does it but I am running DDWRT not the oem firmware
[02:40] <osiris> avalon_, probably not.  try them out and see.  i think one was called downloadthem-all
[02:40] <stittel> Mena: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes
[02:40] <Pollywog> avalon: spider downloads can get you blocked so be careful
[02:40] <Mena> stittel, ohh Thanks :)
[02:41] <ubuntu_> Off to try gphoto - thanks Dekkard.  TTFN
[02:41] <Dekkard> no prob dood
[02:42] <Dekkard> look up f-spot as well..
[02:42] <SubOn1> stittel: brb lemme setup the other comp with static ip
[02:42] <freshmeat> Hey...
[02:42] <Pollywog> f-spot is nice
[02:42] <freshmeat> The kubuntu download has finished.
[02:42] <freshmeat> How do I apply it?
[02:43] <freshmeat> ...apply it from gnome.
[02:43] <Pollywog> for a long time I could not install it because it uses mono, IIRC
[02:43] <os2mac> clear
[02:43] <os2mac> is netstumbler in the repository anywhere?
[02:44] <Pollywog> I think you have to download it from the netstumbler site
[02:44] <avalon_> Yep
[02:44] <Pollywog> isn't it a Firefox extension?
[02:45] <Dekkard> ?
[02:45] <Dekkard> ahh i see DigiKam is the KDE app..
[02:45] <Dekkard> i been using gnome for so long
[02:45] <DerekS> is there a reason that compiz requires lib gnome?
[02:46] <biovore> DerekS: the configuration gui is in gtk
[02:46] <DerekS> so there is no way around that?
[02:46] <SubOn1> stittel: ok i can now ping the desktops hostname thats a good start
[02:46] <Dekkard> i would think not
[02:46] <SubOn1> stittel: now how do i setup the password save thing
[02:47] <Dekkard> not unless there is a qt front end
[02:47] <stittel> SubOn1: Have you already tried transferring files?
[02:47] <SubOn1> stittel: no hold on
[02:47] <DerekS> Dekkard: so i cna't really use compiz without gnome?
[02:47] <sdlnxgk> ??? what is the fastest way to download files from one linux box to another on the same network??
[02:47] <Pollywog> you don't need gnome just the gnome libs
[02:48] <SubOn1> stittel: nvm, it asks to save my password :p
[02:48] <i0n> Hello
[02:48] <stittel> SubOn: Use konqueror, type sftp://myotherhost.
[02:48] <freshmeat> Hello?
[02:48] <stittel> SubOn1: Oh yes, you can also safe the password in Konqueror, if this fits you.
[02:48] <stittel> SubOn1: This will safe the effort of genertating a keypair.
[02:48] <os2mac> seems netstumbler is only for Windows.
[02:48] <freshmeat> How do I apply kde from gnome?
[02:48] <freshmeat> I just finished downloading it.
[02:48] <Pollywog> I just use ssh-agent and FISH
[02:48] <os2mac> what is the linux equivelant.
[02:49] <stittel> SubOn1: Of course the password saved in Konqueror will only work in Konqueror. If that's enough for you, keep it this way.
[02:49] <osiris> sdlnxgk, google scp
[02:49] <Pollywog> I thought netstumber had a firefox extension
[02:49] <SubOn1> stittel: yeah that works, ty
[02:50] <freshmeat> Guys -- I just finished download kde.
[02:50] <freshmeat> How do I apply it from gnome in Ubuntu?
[02:50] <stittel> SubOn1: Do you also want to remotely execute X applications?
[02:50] <freshmeat> downloading *
[02:52] <Dekkard> freshmeat:  dood.. all you nned to do is open a terminal and type in : sudo apt-get install kde
[02:52] <Dekkard> you dont need to download anything from anywhere
[02:52] <SubOn1> stittel: as in being able to see them locally?
[02:52] <Dekkard> or sudo pat-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <Dekkard> apt-get
[02:53] <Dekkard>  sorry for the typos
[02:53] <Dekkard> the beauty of any Debian derived system is that you can  install just about anything form the distros repositories
[02:53] <bobesponja> Dekkard: pat-get ? :)
[02:53] <Dekkard> apt-get
[02:54] <bobesponja> that's my name :)
[02:54] <freshmeat> Well, Dekkard, it's already been installed.
[02:54] <stittel> SubOn1: As in "run application on computer A, but display it's window on computer B".
[02:54] <SubOn1> yes
[02:54] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Why doesn't my scroll wheel work?
[02:54] <Dekkard> freshmeat:  ok  you now need to log out and log back in under session :ked.. you know from the login screen?
[02:54] <freshmeat> Sure
[02:54] <freshmeat> Later
[02:54] <Dekkard> frack.. kde
[02:55] <stittel> SubOn1: Check if "X11Forwarding yes" is in your /etc/sshd/sshd_config
[02:55] <|lostbyte|> could you link me to a short an simple iptables guide you find convenient when learning it ?
[02:55] <Dekkard> i think my model M needs cleaning
[02:55] <SubOn1> stittel: God, I wish there was a voting platform for Linux users, you'd get my vote for most helpful in the past couple months
[02:55] <stittel> SubOn1: If not, set it, and restart sshd by: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[02:55] <SubOn1> stittel: on the server right
[02:56] <osiris> where is the php executable located in ubuntu, and what package would i need if it is not installed ?
[02:56] <SubOn1> stittel: there does not appear to be an /etc/sshd/
[02:56] <stittel> SubOn1: Sorry, /etc/ssh
[02:56] <CPrgmSwR2> Does the kubuntu kernel support reiserfs out of the box?
[02:56] <SubOn1> yeah thast tehre
[02:56] <stittel> CPrgmSwR2: Yes.
[02:56] <CPrgmSwR2> Okay because I am getting a kernel panic
[02:57] <SubOn1> stittel: can i sudo through ssh?
[02:57] <stittel> SubOn1: Once you have a remote shell, you can do what you like.
[02:57] <SubOn1> k, cuz my wife is on there now :p
[02:57] <osiris> SubOn1, if the user has sudo access yes
[02:58] <stittel> SubOn1: Don't forget to restart sshd after making the change.
[02:58] <stittel> SubOn1: Don't just add the line, look for it and change it to "yes", it should be already there.
[02:58] <sdlnxgk> osiris, thanks will do that ;)
[02:58] <SubOn1> stittel: it was but it was commented and set to no
[02:59] <stittel> SubOn1: Yes, "no" is the default. Comment it in and set it to yes. Then restart the sshd daemon.
[02:59] <navid> Hey...
[02:59] <freshmeat> Heh
[02:59] <freshmeat> I cannot change the environment to KDE.
[02:59] <freshmeat> It's still gnome ;\
[03:00] <os2mac> so what does one use to wardrive with in Linux
[03:00] <osiris> so anyone got any klews on php ?
[03:00] <freshmeat> There have only been additions of kde software.
[03:00] <stittel> os2mac: Notebooks.
[03:00] <os2mac> software?
[03:00] <SubOn1> stittel: it says extra argument restart
[03:00] <osiris> airsnort
[03:00] <stittel> SubOn1: "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart"
[03:01] <stittel> SubOn1: "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[03:01] <SubOn1> there is no sshd in init.d
[03:01] <stittel> SubOn1: I am to used to other distributions where things are named slighlty different, sorry.
[03:01] <SubOne> subone@subonedt:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/sshd restart
[03:02] <SubOne> Extra argument restart.
[03:02] <stittel> SubOne: Nono!
[03:02] <freshmeat> So, any views here on what I could do?
[03:02] <stittel> SubOne: Don't touch /etc/sbin/sshd!
[03:02] <SubOne> stittel: oops
[03:02] <stittel> SubOne: Use the init script. It's there. It's named "ssh" not "sshd" as I said.
[03:02] <SubOne> oh
[03:02] <stittel> SubOn1: "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[03:02] <KaoticEvil> would a 4GB HD be big enuf to install kubuntu fiesty on?
[03:03] <SubOne> stittel: do i need to undo any damage i just did by running that?
[03:03] <stittel> SubOne: I don't think so.
[03:04] <SubOne> (firefox-bin:17499): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:04] <stittel> SubOne: Not so easy. :)
[03:04] <SubOne> lol
[03:04] <stittel> SubOne: Quit your ssh session. Then login again with: ssh -Y hostname
[03:04] <SubOne> ah -Y
[03:05] <SubOne> excellent
[03:05] <stittel> SubOnes: Ok, great, if this works I'll go to bed now. It's already 3:05am after here. :)
[03:06] <SubOne> stittel: ty so much
[03:06] <stittel> SubOne: If you are having to handle larger setups with let's say more then 10 computers, what we just have done here doesn't really scale.
[03:06] <SubOne> stittel: ic, well this is fine for now i appreciate it
[03:06] <stittel> SubOne: Then you need to use NFS with for example NIS for file sharing.
[03:06] <CPrgmSwR2> Can someone help me with a kernel panic
[03:07] <stittel> SubOne: Yes, for just a few computers this is an easy and flexible and also quite safe setup. I have something similar myself at home.
[03:07] <stittel> SubOne: You're welcome. Have fun using Kubuntu and good night!
[03:08] <K`zan> I loaded a CD and it mounted but now, trying to unmount it it thinks that konqueror is using it - not.  Any suggestions short of rebooting to clear it?
[03:08] <stittel> :)
[03:09] <K`zan> ok, shades of wincrap, reboot it is :-(.
[03:10] <sdlnxgk> osiris, awesome !! everything is copying over to the new sata drive thanks !!!
[03:10] <osiris> you're welcom
[03:11] <fati> my cd/dvd burners are being brought online through scsi emulation, i think this is causing problems for me, does anyone happen to know how to disable scsi emulation for devices at bootup?
[03:17] <CPrgmSwR2> Can someone paste their menu.lst from their /boot partition?
[03:18] <CPrgmSwR2> thats too rafb.net
[03:18] <CPrgmSwR2> rafb.net/paste
[03:18] <DerekS> is there an official kde search client?
[03:18] <pulaski> hello
[03:18] <DerekS> like a beagle for kde?
[03:19] <pulaski> can someone please tell me where on kubuntu fiesty fawn the ENVIRONMENTSL variables are set?
[03:19] <KaoticEvil> anybody?
[03:19] <comodo> can someone tel me how to change your file view in konquer perminitly
[03:20] <biovore> pulaski: /etc/profile or ~.bashrc
[03:20] <pulaski> thank you comodo
[03:22] <KaoticEvil> would a 4GB HD be big enuf to install Kubuntu Fiesty?
[03:23] <i0n> yep
[03:23] <crimsun> that's tolerable.
[03:23] <KaoticEvil> cool
[03:23] <KaoticEvil> how much space would i have left for ~? approximately
[03:24] <KaoticEvil> from a default install
[03:24] <Jucato> KaoticEvil: "Desktop install requires at least 256MB of RAM and 3GB of available hard drive space."
[03:24] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php
[03:24] <KaoticEvil> ah, looked for it... musta missed it
[03:24] <KaoticEvil> thanks :)
[03:25] <sayers> What is the offtopic channel?
[03:25] <Jucato> sayers: #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:27] <KaoticEvil> Jucato:  i would presume the xubuntu requirements to be about the same?
[03:27] <Jucato> probably even lower
[03:28] <Jucato> w/ regards to RAM
[03:28] <KaoticEvil> hmmm... alright
[03:28] <KaoticEvil> well, RAM isnt the issue.. ive got 578MB
[03:29] <Jucato> :)
[03:29] <KaoticEvil> but my 10GB laptop drive took a dive on me
[03:29] <KaoticEvil> yup, 1.5GB,,, i can deal with that :)
[03:29] <KaoticEvil> thanks!
[03:31] <OptimusRex> how do I uninstall kubuntu while running the live cd. Can yo help me, please
[03:31] <voidmage> OptimusRex: ?
[03:31] <OptimusRex> yes
[03:31] <voidmage> OptimusRex: what do you mean?
[03:33] <OptimusRex> I installed kubuntu on the free partition on a windows machine but windows was installed on drive D; Now I cannot dual boot. I was told to delete the kubuntu partition while running the live cd to remove kubuntu. is there another way to remove kubuntu from the hard disk?
[03:34] <strabes> OptimusRex: mount the drive in the live CD and then delete everything on it...?
[03:34] <strabes> OptimusRex: I'd recommend formatting the partition though
[03:35] <Cnl_Delta> wha boots OptimusRex
[03:35] <OptimusRex> you mean mount the free space then format or just format? The Kubuntu boots without a choice of os to boot from
[03:36] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[03:36] <Cnl_Delta> sounds like have to reconfigure grub
[03:37] <Cnl_Delta> what does sudo fdisk -l say
[03:37] <markc> has anyone tried compiling a real-time kernel ?
[03:38] <madmike> hey is there much diffrece between 32bit and 64bit kubuntu?
[03:38] <ubuntu> Dont know
[03:38] <biovore> the only difference is that closesource stuff sometimes has issues..
[03:38] <biovore> on 64bit
[03:38] <OptimusRex> do I mount with ntfs or any other file system?
[03:39] <madmike> hmmm that shoulden't bother me much
[03:39] <madmike> i got a amd 64 box on it's way and just curious
[03:40] <Cnl_Delta> sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:40] <Jucato> kdesu
[03:40] <madmike> and no way in hell I'm stickin windows on it
[03:40] <Cnl_Delta> copy paste that in a terminal and see if your windows is listed
[03:42] <Mena> Hey Jucato :)
[03:42] <Jucato> hi Mena
[03:45] <soulrider_> hey Jucato
[03:45] <Jucato> hi soulrider_
[03:48] <apikoros> can anyone recommend a nice, windowed, kde-friendly irc client that doesn't suck? i really hate konversation.. it's intrusive, too-cute, i don't know -- somehow painfully annoying for reasons i can't quite put a finger on.
[03:49] <biovore> apikoros: kvirc
[03:49] <apikoros> hmm. yes, i just saw it in my apt-cache. do you recommend kvirc or kvirc2?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> heh, he won't like kvirc in that case
[03:50] <biovore> kvirc package is kvirc3
[03:50] <biovore> I running kvirc3 here
[03:50] <soulrider> xchat ? its gtk though
[03:51] <apikoros> i'm looking at screenshots and it looks worse than kvirc, it looks bloated
[03:51] <raylu> it = xchat?
[03:51] <apikoros> err sorry, i meant kvirc looks worse than conversation
[03:51] <biovore> kvirc is very big
[03:51] <apikoros> i used xchat before and it was okay but i just don't like running gtk apps
[03:51] <raylu> yeah, the ss i saw was pretty ugly too
[03:51] <biovore> but has a completely cusomizable interface
[03:52] <biovore> and scripting languages..
[03:52] <raylu> kopete and gaim come with irc support
[03:52] <apikoros> but by now i'm coming across as a completely prissy app whiner :)
[03:52] <Jucato> (yep)
[03:52] <raylu> that's a good thing...except the prissy part
[03:52] <SubOne> how do i `ls 2007-05-06/*.jpg` it is saying "ls: 2007-05-06/*.jpg: No such file or directory"
[03:53] <apikoros> well, this is not my main machine anyways -- i'll just download anything remotely ircish and report back
[03:53] <raylu> ls 2007-05-06 | grep *.jpg
[03:53] <SubOne> ty
[03:53] <Jucato> SubOne: ls 2007-05-06/ *.jpg
[03:53] <SubOne> both acceptable ty
[03:53] <Jucato> (space in between)
[03:53] <raylu> o.0? that works too?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> well you can always use the terminal irssi
[03:53] <apikoros> find 2007-05-06 -iname "*.jpg"
[03:54] <SubOne> Jucato: that does not work
[03:54] <SubOne> raylu: is that case insensitive?
[03:54] <raylu> don't think so
[03:54] <Jucato> SubOne: hm.. ok...
[03:54] <SubOne> is there a way to make it?
[03:54] <raylu> i dont know too much about grep; try man-ing it
[03:54] <apikoros> grep -i
[03:54] <apikoros> for case insensitive, iirc
[03:54] <raylu> oh, is that what -i was...
[03:55] <SubOne> it does nto appear to be working i get no results
[03:55] <apikoros> yeah. otherwise it's case sensitive. but the find command i typed earlier is case insensitive and will search subdirectories
[03:55] <Tired_> I'm confused...I installed SwiftFox, which is apparently a differently optimized Firefox, and when I opened it, it had all my Firefox settings and extensions.....what other apps have unfettered access to the data from other apps on my Kubuntu box?
[03:55] <raylu> try it without the *
[03:55] <SubOne> er, wait i need to ditch the *
[03:55] <Jucato> SubOne: hm... you know, ls folder/*.foo actually works here
[03:55] <bobstro> Tired_:  well, any that you run.
[03:55] <SubOne> now how can i do it making sure it is only on the end?
[03:55] <raylu> Tired_...all of them...
[03:55] <apikoros> Tired_: pretty much all of them
[03:55] <bobstro> Tired_:  they run with your permissions (generally).
[03:56] <bobstro> Tired_:  it's not like those are secured settings.
[03:56] <raylu> SubOne, no idea again, sorry :P
[03:56] <Tired_> Is there a setting I can set so programs will mind their own stuff unless I tell them otherwise?
[03:56] <raylu> they all do mind their own stuff...
[03:56] <apikoros> Tired_: that's kind of the norm, but swiftfox is an exception
[03:56] <bobstro> Tired_:  well, you could secure (e.g. encrypt) is usppose.
[03:56] <raylu> swiftfox being an exception for an obvious reason
[03:56] <apikoros> Tired_: it's an exception in many respects, actually -- it's not even open source, iirc
[03:56] <Tired_> um, what's the obvious reason?
[03:56] <raylu> you could also run firefox as a different user that owns the config files and disallow read access for g and o
[03:57] <bobstro> Tired_:  swiftfox is supposed to use your previous settings as convenience.
[03:57] <raylu> swiftfox is really just an addon to firefox
[03:57] <raylu> it needs access to the configs there
[03:57] <Tired_> oh, I see...that explains it
[03:57] <apikoros> Tired_: generally things you get from the official repositories will play nice and never pollute the settings of other programs unless you tell them to
[03:57] <apikoros> but swiftfox is not official...it's not really an addon to firefox, it's just a custom build actually
[03:57] <bobstro> Tired_:  do understand that apps you run do so with your permissions. that's why you don't want to be root.
[03:57] <raylu> if its security you're worried about, the solution is to not download...malware
[03:58] <Tired_> I was just worried there...I wouldn't want KMail to start mailing out my Konversation passwords or anything equally foolish
[03:58] <raylu> anything that makes it onto your box can potentially screw your computer up, i guess
[03:58] <bobstro> Tired_:  or you might keep different "personae" in the form of accounts.
[03:58] <bobstro> Tired_:  they may all use the same wallet type functionality.
[03:58] <bobstro> raylu:  at least with linux it's limited to what your account can do.
[03:58] <Tired_> But the wallet always asks me if it's cool first, which is good
[03:59] <bobstro> Tired_:  yeah, that's the idea. unfortunately, a lot of competing ways of doing things.
[03:59] <Tired_> true...it's all good...I was just freaking out there, but now I understand  :)
[03:59] <Coldwar55> Why doesn't the restricted manager work in Kubuntu?
[03:59] <Tired_> (it's not any faster, anyways)
[03:59] <apikoros> Tired_: but really, if you believe in free and open source software, you shouldn't use it.
[04:00] <apikoros> "Binaries provided by getswiftfox.com are not licensed MPL and therefore are not freely distributable. The license to use Swiftfox extends to the user that downloads Swiftfox from this web site. No one may repackage or redistribute Swiftfox binaries in any form without prior permission."
[04:00] <apikoros> http://getswiftfox.com/source.htm
[04:00] <Jucato> Coldwar55: because it's hardcoded to work only on Ubuntu/GNOME apps
[04:00] <Tired_> I believe in them like I believe the earth is round, but I'm not stuck to one ideology.
[04:00] <Coldwar55> :/
[04:00] <raylu> so you're open to the idea that earth is flat and floating on a turtle?
[04:00] <Tired_> But I'm also not going to start a flamewar...
[04:01] <Coldwar55> There goes me using Kubuntu since I can't get my ATI drivers working -_-
[04:01] <apikoros> Tired_: neither am I -- i administer a Windows 2003 network at work. you're free to use whatever you want without being hassled about it.
[04:01] <Tired_> :)
[04:01] <Jucato> Coldwar55: um... restricted-manager is just a front end to what you can manually install/do on Ubuntu
[04:01] <Coldwar55> Yeah I followed the edgy directions too
[04:01] <Tired_> I just get nervous when people start talking ideologies...sometimes it gets ugly
[04:01] <Coldwar55> and it gives me problems
[04:01] <bobstro> sometimes?
[04:02] <raylu> clearly, anyone who hasn't realized the existence of the giant turtle is retarded, Tired_
[04:02] <Tired_> or just blinded by His Noodliness
[04:02] <apikoros> i just pointed it out because to get to that page you need to click on the tiny text on the swiftfox page -- most people just naturally assume it's free.
[04:02] <raylu> oh. well, FSM is a universally accepted truth too
[04:02] <osiris> does anyone here use ktorrents webgui plugin ?
[04:03] <apikoros> osiris: no, what is it?
[04:03] <apikoros> a web interface for ktorrent?
[04:03] <Coldwar55> So I have no clue how else to install the drivers
[04:03] <osiris> its a plugin to control ktorrent from the web
[04:03] <biovore> no I use torrentflux here..
[04:03] <apikoros> biovore: me too :)
[04:03] <bobstro> just found torrentflux myself. good stuff.
[04:03] <osiris> i set the username and password, but cant seem to log into it
[04:04] <raylu> i don't see the purpose of a web interface
[04:04] <biovore> torrents can be remote on another box.. like in a datacenter\
[04:05] <Tired_> handy when you wanna control your torrents at home on lunch break at school
[04:05] <apikoros> yes.
[04:05] <bobstro> and they run when you leave with your laptop
[04:05] <raylu> i see...
[04:06] <osiris> relavence of the feature aside, i want to use it
[04:06] <apikoros> osiris: well, let me install it and get back to you. i'm curious now.
[04:06] <Tired_> is there a VNC server that uses a standard browser for a client (in Kubuntu, of course)?
[04:06] <osiris> roger that
[04:07] <osiris> i like ktorrent, cause it supporst ip block lists, and bandwidth scheduling
[04:07] <raylu> apikoros, it comes with kubuntu (or it came with edgy, at leasT)
[04:08] <raylu> Tired_, is there a vnc server that windows users can access?
[04:08] <Coldwar55> -_- Why can I never run gedit or oowriter as root?
[04:08] <Coldwar55> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:08] <Coldwar55> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:08] <Coldwar55> Is what I get
[04:08] <apikoros> osiris: it works fine for me...
[04:08] <raylu> Coldwar55, i'm assuming you're using kdesu and not sudo?
[04:08] <apikoros> what path did you specify for php?
[04:08] <Tired_> raylu -> sure, i didn't know there was any that couldn't
[04:08] <Jucato> Coldwar55: unless you installed Ubuntu/GNOME, then gedit isn't installed on Kubuntu
[04:08] <Coldwar55> I installed
[04:08] <Coldwar55> it manually
[04:08] <crimsun> raylu: there's one that is distributed with Ubuntu.  See System> Preferences> Remote Desktop
[04:08] <Jucato> Coldwar55: "gksudo gedit"
[04:09] <raylu> Tired_, o.0? I haven't used any at all. what are you using at all?
[04:09] <raylu> oh? that works with window's rd client?
[04:09] <apikoros> osiris, FWIW, i set the path to the php binary to "/usr/bin/php5-cgi"
[04:09] <crimsun> raylu: there are win32 tightvnc clients that can connect to it.
[04:09] <apikoros> UltraVNC is a great client for win32, btw.
[04:09] <osiris> you are supposed to set it to php
[04:09] <apikoros> and GPL iirc.
[04:10] <osiris> from installing php-cli
[04:10] <Coldwar55> Can't install gksudo
[04:10] <nalioth> jrib: pull your own weight.
[04:10] <apikoros> osiris, i dunno, i just looked for some php binary in my bin directory and saw that one. but i'm telling you, it works.
[04:10] <SubOne> how can i delimit a for loop by newlines only rather than whitespace, because it is breaking up my filenames
[04:10] <Mena> how to install compiz themes
[04:11] <Tired_> UltraVNC
[04:11] <Tired_> what apikoros said  :)
[04:11] <apikoros> mena, download emerald theme manager
[04:11] <Mena> apikoros, ohh so i have to use emerlad
[04:11] <apikoros> mena, yeah -- i assume you're talking about beryl.
[04:11] <Tired_> but it would be very cool if I could use Firefox and Flash to do it.......
[04:12] <Tired_> *hint nudge*
[04:12] <raylu> that's asking a lot of flash
[04:12] <apikoros> osiris, any luck?
[04:12] <Coldwar55> So how am I supposed to access my xorg.conf file if I can't run it as root?
[04:12] <Mena> apikoros, yes but i use compiz and fron berul channel one told me to remove emerlad
[04:12] <SubOne> Coldwar55: sudo
[04:12] <raylu> Coldwar55, sudo nano or sudo vim
[04:12] <Mena> from * beryl*
[04:12] <jrib> Coldwar55: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <raylu> (in a console)
[04:12] <osiris> apikoros, i make a new user for it and it worked
[04:12] <SubOne> how can i delimit a for loop by newlines only rather than whitespace, because it is breaking up my filenames
[04:12] <apikoros> osiris, probably you just mistyped the l/p the first time around?
[04:13] <apikoros> mena, if you're using beryl with ubuntu, you need the emerald theme manager.
[04:13] <osiris> no way
[04:13] <osiris> of that, i AM sure
[04:13] <raylu> SubOne, quotes?
[04:13] <apikoros> osiris, did you change the path to php?
[04:13] <Mena> apikoros, i am using kubuntu
[04:13] <osiris> yes.  /usr/bin/php
[04:13] <apikoros> Mena:  errrrr right, i meant kubuntu.
[04:13] <Mena> apikoros, ok
[04:14] <SubOne> raylu: how do i manage to get quotes in there?
[04:14] <SubOne> raylu: it is the result of an ls
[04:14] <raylu> SubOne, a bash script, right?
[04:14] <SubOne> raylu: yea
[04:14] <apikoros> SubOne: what are you trying to do, exactly?
[04:14] <raylu> i'm not to experienced in that department, but I would imagine you use ""s around filenames or "\ " instead of " "
[04:15] <raylu> *too
[04:15] <SubOne> for img in `ls "$imgdir" | grep -i .jpg`
[04:15] <SubOne> but it seperates a filename if there is a space
[04:15] <osiris> apikoros, found the bug
[04:15] <apikoros> osiris: what is it?
[04:15] <osiris> it seems it doesnt like my password
[04:15] <apikoros> SubOne: what are you _actually_ trying to do?
[04:15] <osiris> the password contained capitols, numbers, and symboly
[04:16] <SubOne> apikoros: get a list of all of the jpg files in all of the directories and imagemagick resize them
[04:16] <apikoros> osiris, heh, it took "test123" without complaining ;)
[04:16] <SubOne> !pastebin
[04:16] <jrib> SubOne: for img in $imgdir/*.jpg; do imagemagick_stuff "$img"; done    does that work?
[04:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:17] <apikoros> okay so find . -iname "*.jpg" -exec convert (some parameters) \;
[04:17] <biovore> for i in *.jpg; do imagemagick $i --resize <res> -o thumb-$i; done  (or something close to that)
[04:17] <apikoros> you don't need a for loop, just use find! the oft-misunderstood unix command
[04:17] <SubOne> oh it can work with files like that? lemme try it
[04:17] <jrib> apikoros: funny, I always say  I don't need find, just glob :)
[04:18] <biovore> up find and xargs are other altrnitives
[04:18] <apikoros> yeah
[04:18] <apikoros> SubOne: when you use -exec, "{}" (without the quotes) stands for the filename, and you need to end with a \;
[04:18] <Tired_> is there a -buntu without any desktop enviroment by default?
[04:19] <biovore> Dam.. there just been a hugh tornado in KS
[04:19] <apikoros> so for example: find . -iname "*.txt" -exec rm -i {} \;
[04:19] <bobstro> Tired_:  server?
[04:19] <Tired_> X, but no DE
[04:19] <SubOne> apikoros: I'm sorry, i didnt really understand that
[04:19] <apikoros> Tired_: yes, server. then just install x.
[04:19] <Tired_> ah, cool...
[04:20] <SubOne> -exec, "{}"               what is this
[04:20] <apikoros> SubOne: give me the syntax for convert (or whatever imagemagick app) to do the thing you want and i'll show you how to combine it with find
[04:20] <apikoros> -exec tells find to execute the following command for each item it finds
[04:20] <Tired_> somehow I doubt there'll ever be enough interest for EvilWMBuntu
[04:20] <apikoros> and it changes {} to the actual findname.
[04:20] <SubOne> apikoros: lemme post my script so fart
[04:20] <bobstro> Tired_:  that... might be a challenge
[04:20] <SubOne> !pastebin
[04:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:20] <Coldwar55> Hmm I tried using Edgie's directions and still can't get ATI drivers to work under Fiesty
[04:21] <apikoros> heh, a freudian emission there.
[04:21] <SubOne> apikoros: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19569/
[04:22] <SubOne> apikoros: some is commented out because i just wanted to view the output and count the files first
[04:23] <apikoros> okay, suppose you have an image directory called images/ with a bunch of subdirs with jpegs in them, you can do this:
[04:23] <bobstro> SubOne:  isn't img including the dir?
[04:24] <SubOne> SubOne: it wasnt before because it was `ls "$imgdir" | grep -i .jpg` but now it may be because i dont know this new code
[04:24] <SubOne> bobstro: ^^^
[04:24] <Mena_> apikoros, i cant use emerald
[04:24] <Mena_> apikoros, while using compiz
[04:24] <SubOne> apikoros: I only want 1 directory in
[04:25] <Coldwar55> Are there any decent ATI howtos specifically for Kubuntu?
[04:25] <SubOne> so i want '2006-04-19/100_0001_00.jpg' but not  '2006-04-19/other_dir/100_0001_00.jpg'
[04:26] <apikoros> SubOne: okay, hold on
[04:26] <apikoros> SubOne: i'm not a shell wizard, so it takes me a minute to compose the command :)
[04:26] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[04:27] <bobstro> SubOne:  find has a maxdepth parm
[04:27] <Kr4t05> IIRC, using Beryl on an Nvidia card with the latest drivers should "Just Work", correct?
[04:28] <OptimusRex> no root file system is defined. Does anyone know how to solve this when preparing partitions?
[04:28] <bobstro> OptimusRex:  are you installing over an old drive?
[04:28] <bobstro> OptimusRex:  also, are you installing edgy?
[04:29] <superm1> hey would anyone with a kubuntu disk or ISO be able to tell me what /isolinux/isolinux.cfg's GFXBOOT-BACKGROUND variable has set
[04:29] <SubOne> bobstro: i didnt even know i was using 'find'
[04:29] <bobstro> SubOne:  i'm just mentioning that it does, so should work for what you want.
[04:29] <Tired_> Beryl did not 'just work' for me.
[04:29] <Tired_> I had to follow some simple instructions from the forum, which did 'just work'
[04:30] <OptimusRex> i'm installing kubuntu 7.04 on a drive that has windows xp on it as well
[04:30] <bobstro> SubOne:  i'd put some echo statements in that script to verify values of img, imgdir are as you expect.
[04:30] <bobstro> OptimusRex:  do you have an empty partition to install into?
[04:30] <SubOne> bobstro: there are echos
[04:30] <Kr4t05> Tired_: Ah, okay.
[04:30] <bobstro> SubOne:  wups, ok are they what you expect?
[04:30] <bobstro> SubOne:  what part's not working?
[04:30] <Tired_> I forget where they were, but I found them in a simple search
[04:31] <Tired_> it was a short script they had in the body of the post
[04:31] <SubOne> bobstro: it was working fine the way i had it before, except that it was breaking my filenames at spaces in the filename
[04:32] <OptimusRex> yes I have free space that I am trying to partition with the live disk. I have set some space as /dev/sda3 for the swap and /dev/sda1 as ext3 and this is the larger one
[04:32] <OptimusRex> the larger one is also set with an x for formatting
[04:33] <SubOne> bobstro: and then he had me change it to 'for img in $imgdir/*.jpg' and now i get the directory in the string an extra time and i get '*.jpg' returned too
[04:34] <bobstro> SubOne:  sorry, but it's breaking them on the convert lines (when not commented) or where?
[04:34] <bobstro> SubOne:  oh wait
[04:34] <bobstro> SubOne:  how about for img in "$imgdir/*.jpg" ?
[04:35] <bobstro> SubOne:  maybe same with imgdir too
[04:35] <link109> <-- (Newbie)  How do I enable the greyed out items in the Adept installer?
[04:37] <SubOne> bobstro: it just returns a bunch of '*.jpg'
[04:37] <SubOne> no actuall jpegs
[04:38] <SubOne> link109: such as?
[04:38] <bobstro> SubOne:  double quotes (") will allow expansion, single quotes (') won't.
[04:38] <SubOne> bobstro: i didnt mean those as literal
[04:39] <SubOne> some of the results i am getting:
[04:39] <SubOne> 2006-12-23/2006-12-23//*.jpg
[04:39] <SubOne> 2006-12-24/2006-12-24//*.jpg
[04:39] <SubOne> 2007-05-04/2007-05-04//*.jpg
[04:39] <SubOne> 2007-05-06/2007-05-06//*.jpg
[04:39] <bobstro> SubOne:  with the version of the script on pastebin?
[04:39] <SubOne> oops that was meant to be on one line
[04:39] <SubOne> no, with for img in "$imgdir/*.jpg"
[04:45] <lespea> wow quiet in here
[04:45] <Kr4t05> What perms would restrict all write access regardless of user?
[04:45] <SubOne> im waiting for someone that knows some shell scripting to answer me:p
[04:45] <Kr4t05> 555?
[04:46] <SubOne> Kr4t05: 4 = r, 2 = w, 1 = x
[04:46] <SubOne> so yes
[04:47] <apikoros> i think ksirc is my new client.
[04:47] <ubuntu> omfg
[04:47] <Kr4t05> SubOne: Thanks
[04:49] <OptimusRex> bobstro: I'm trying to format /dev/sda1 and set it as the root file system
[04:49] <lespea> sub what was your ?
[04:49] <bobstro> SubOne:  where did you leave off?
[04:50] <SubOne> bobstro: not getting anywhere lol
[04:50] <bobstro> SubOne:  still at the version you pastebin'ed?
[04:50] <lespea> kr4t did you want read only for everybody or?
[04:50] <lespea> Optimus are you using the live cd/
[04:50] <SubOne> lespea: I am trying to iterate through every image in every directory 1 deep, even if there are strings in the filenames/dirs
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: the perm is just an octal rep of a binary number expressed as r,w,x for root,owner,users so 111 111 111 translates to 777, etc.
[04:51] <SubOne> bobstro: with minor changes you suggested on the one line
[04:51] <lespea> what do you mean strings?
[04:51] <SubOne> lespea: as in i need the filenames to pass to imagemagick
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: if you ever need to figure that one out again :)
[04:51] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: Yeah, thanks. :)
[04:52] <SubOne> this seems like it should be easy, someone here should know this lol
[04:52] <lespea> find . -type f -maxdepth=2 -iregex ".*{jpe?g|png|gif|bmp|[etc] )$"
[04:52] <osiris> praises BE~!  no more join/part messages~!
[04:53] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Beryl works now... but emerald doesn't...
[04:53] <lespea> then if you want to use imagemagick I would use -print0 and pipe that to xargs with the arg -0 (that's a zero) followed by your command
[04:53] <SubOne> lespea: invalid predicate -maxdepth=2
[04:53] <Jucato> SubOne: you can try at #bash for more info
[04:53] <Jucato> (or is it ##bash ?)
[04:53] <lespea> try -maxdepth 2
[04:53] <SubOne> Jucato: ty
[04:54] <lespea> sorry
[04:54] <SubOne> find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments.
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: nvidia card?
[04:54] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: Yeah, I just figured it out, though.
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> argb-glx visuals, right?
[04:55] <SubOne> find . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex ".*{jpe?g|png|gif|bmp)$"
[04:55] <SubOne> returns no results
[04:55] <lespea> yeah I just tried it... hold on i'm proofing it :/
[04:55] <SubOne> shouldnt it be a curly close at the end for one thing
[04:56] <lespea> for what?
[04:56] <SubOne> {jpe?g|png|gif|bmp)
[04:56] <lespea> don't believe so, but you can try
[04:57] <SubOne> find . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex "*" returns nothing
[04:58] <lespea> i got it to return stuff
[04:58] <lespea> it'd have to be .*
[04:58] <lespea> k
[04:58] <SubOne> ok that works
[04:58] <lespea> got the string... have to friggen escape everything :( ...
[04:59] <lespea> find . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex ".+\(jpe?g\|bmp\|png\|gif\)$"
[04:59] <SubOne> find . -maxdepth 2 -type f -iregex ".*[jpg] "                 works
[04:59] <lespea> well not because of why you think
[04:59] <SubOne> oh
[04:59] <lespea> when you use brackets
[04:59] <SubOne> oh it means one of the letters
[04:59] <lespea> then it matches if anything in the brackets is pressent
[04:59] <lespea> so basically... if everything at the end ends in either a j,p, or g
[05:00] <lespea> yeah
[05:00] <tabaco> how in the damn i can instal sofware in ubuntu?
[05:00] <lespea> tab: "start button" - add/remove programs
[05:00] <lespea> did you try my new string?
[05:00] <tabaco> but sofware downloaded
[05:00] <lespea> ?
[05:00] <SubOne> ok so how do i pump that into an imagemagick call?
[05:00] <lespea> okay, now go something like this
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: is it source?
[05:01] <tabaco> .dev
[05:01] <lespea> find Wallpapers/ -type f -iregex ".+\(jpe?g\|bmp\|png\|gif\)$" -print0 | xargs -0 -I{} imagemagick (params) {}
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: you mean .deb?
[05:01] <tabaco> yes that
[05:01] <SubOne> woah
[05:01] <lespea> you want to use print0 so that it uses nulls and not spaces to seperate everything -- otherwise stuff gets really messed up
[05:02] <lespea> work?
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: sudo dpkg -i <package_name.deb>
[05:02] <tabaco> i get error message
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: which is?
[05:02] <SubOne> lespea: can you explain that to me so i can put in my parameters?
[05:03] <tabaco> dependants i think
[05:03] <stealth47> hi there.. can i ask what specific program i can use to play my audio cd?
[05:03] <stealth47> hi there.. can i ask what specific program i can use to play my audio cd?
[05:03] <lespea> sure
[05:03] <SubOne> lespea: what i need is something like #convert -resize 640 "$imgdir$img" -quality 80 small/medium_"$img"
[05:03] <osiris> kscd
[05:03] <lespea> you get all the find stuff right?
[05:03] <osiris> stealth47, kscd
[05:03] <SubOne> lespea: the find finds yes
[05:03] <lespea> oh okay
[05:03] <stealth47> tnx osiris
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: you probably need to install the dependencies then
[05:03] <osiris> stealth47, you're welcome
[05:03] <lespea> well whereever you want the filename just put the brackets "{}" so it'd be something like this
[05:04] <tabaco> but that must be are downloaded to?
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: usually you can use apt to get them if they're common
[05:04] <lespea>  #convert -resize 640 {} -quality 80 {}.small.jpg (or something -- if you want to really mess with the file name and strip stuff out you can't one-line it)
[05:04] <tabaco> im need a ftp server
[05:05] <tabaco> in windows is easy but i don t want windows
[05:05] <lespea> does that make sense?
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: there's a few of those in the repos, makes installation easier
[05:05] <SubOne> lespea: yeah i need to direct the output based on filename, butto a directory i want
[05:05] <Jucato> !ftpd | tabaco
[05:05] <ubotu> tabaco: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[05:05] <lespea> you're probably going to have to make a shell script then
[05:05] <SubOne> lespea: so like ./small{}
[05:06] <SubOne> will that work?
[05:06] <SubOne> lespea: i was already makign a shell script lol
[05:06] <lespea> yeah... well.. `./small/{}`
[05:06] <lespea> oh lol
[05:06] <Kr4t05> Ok, one last pet-peeve and my Kubuntu box will be teh sexeh.
[05:06] <tabaco> something of this works in graphical enviroment<'
[05:06] <SubOne> lespea: but it wasnt working out
[05:06] <Kr4t05> My scroll-wheel doesn't work. :(
[05:06] <lespea> what is it doing?
[05:06] <SubOne> lespea: lemme try this
[05:06] <lespea> k
[05:07] <SubOne> can i do something like echo {}
[05:07] <osiris> Kr4t05, you can probably fix that in xorg.conf
[05:07] <lespea> yeah
[05:07] <lespea> xarg will execute any command that it can find (in your path)
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Kr4t05: hardware problem?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> tabaco: some of them undoubtedly have a gui, try them out till you find one you like
[05:08] <Kr4t05> Admiral_Chicago: I don't think, it works in WinXP
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Kr4t05: how many buttons
[05:08] <osiris> Kr4t05, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <Kr4t05> Admiral_Chicago: Just 3 counting middle click.
[05:08] <apikoros> i think i'm sticking with konversation :/
[05:08] <Kr4t05> osiris: There
[05:08] <lespea> api -- :D
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Kr4t05: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:09] <SubOne> lespea: ok how do i strip the path from the file
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> did that work?
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> does*
[05:09] <Kr4t05> Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" -- That's set
[05:09] <osiris> try 6 7
[05:09] <Kr4t05> Admiral_Chicago: I'm not scrapping my entire Xorg for my mouse. :P
[05:09] <tabaco> why kubuntu put me on black screen when i switch user?
[05:09] <osiris> http://rafb.net/p/dskuOq91.nln.html
[05:09] <lespea> well... that's a lot more trickey lol
[05:09] <osiris> Kr4t05, look at taht link
[05:10] <lespea> hold on i haven't done that in a bit let me test something
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Kr4t05: open it in an editor?
[05:10] <tabaco>  <lespea>  thanks for the hint
[05:10] <osiris> might try 6 7 instead.  make sure to restart X between attempts
[05:10] <Kr4t05> osiris: Thanks.
[05:10] <Kr4t05> BRB
[05:11] <osiris> yep
[05:11] <Kr4t05> osiris: Success.
[05:11] <Kr4t05> osiris: Thanks again.
[05:11] <osiris> no prob
[05:12] <Kr4t05> The world is now a happy place filled with rainbows and kittens. :)
[05:12] <SubOne> lespea: see i was using a much simpler technique, but the `for` breaks it by whitespace which includes spaces in directories/filenames
[05:12] <lespea> yeah....
[05:12] <lespea> that's the real bitch about it lol
[05:12] <lespea> err sorry bout swearing :o
[05:13] <SubOne> lespea: and I must say i only have a small amount of shell scripting from school
[05:13] <lespea> oooh i have an idea hold on
[05:13] <SubOne> lespea: all i want to do is resize these full size images and save them to a website but there are over a thousand
[05:14] <bobstro> SubOne:  still no luck?
[05:14] <SubOne> bobstro: lespea seems to know his stuff, but we haven't got it yet
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> SubOne: you looking for a program / script to resize for you?
[05:14] <lespea> well you could just do the resize and rename then with a prefix like (in xargs) THUMBS_{}
[05:14] <lespea> and then have another script that moves all of the THUMBS_* to a different directory
[05:14] <lespea> for now at least
[05:15] <SubOne> lespea: what do you mean
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> lespea: why not do that then itereate through and remove the prefix?
[05:16] <SubOne> i need to resize them into two sizes, but they are all in many directories, and then i need to put them in a specified directory for upload to a web server
[05:16] <SubOne> and probably output the new filenames in another file in some format i havent decided yet for storing the names in the database
[05:17] <lespea> the trouble is that you need to strip off hte directory stuff before you can put then into a folder or else you'll just have errors for trying to moving into non-existand directories
[05:17] <stealth47> osiris: how can i install games on My Ubuntu Feisty 7.04? do i need to edit my sources.list?
[05:17] <stealth47> osiris: how can i install games on My Ubuntu Feisty 7.04? do i need to edit my sources.list?
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> SubOne: that last parts easy once thy're moved
[05:17] <SubOne> hitmanWilly: says the guy that's not helping :p
[05:17] <osiris> stealth47, if you double post another question like that, im not gonna answer
[05:17] <osiris> have some courtesy
[05:18] <stealth47> am sory
[05:18] <bobstro> SubOne:  this works for me -- for NAME in "$(find . -name \*jpg)"; do echo "The name is $NAME"; done
[05:18] <osiris> and yes.  edit your sources list
[05:18] <Jucato> !games | stealth47
[05:18] <ubotu> stealth47: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> SubOne: lespea seemed to be doing quite well at helping
[05:18] <bobstro> SubOne:  is it still the initial name that's causing problems?
[05:18] <stealth47> tnx
[05:18] <SubOne> hitmanWilly: i was joking
[05:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: :) beat me to it
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> i know, so was i :)
[05:19] <SubOne> bobstro: well he got me all the filenames but still not in a form that i can output to imagemagick for output
[05:19] <lespea> hmm well my sed script is having some odd errors... still trying lol
[05:19] <SubOne> i can input them just not output them where i want them
[05:20] <lespea> sub i'll meet you over in #bash
[05:20] <SubOne> k
[05:20] <bobstro> SubOne:  for NAME in "$(find . -name \*jpg)"; do echo "The name is $NAME"; done
[05:20] <bobstro> if you're trying to strip leading dots and such
[05:21] <bobstro> er. wup s
[05:21] <bobstro> SubOne: for NAME in "$(find . -name \*jpg)"; do echo "The name is $NAME" | sed -e "s/.\///g"; done
[05:22] <SubOne> bobstro: that returns no results lol, im in #bash if you have anything further
[05:22] <bobstro> SubOne:  returns just the file name (no dir) for me.
[05:23] <tabaco> wzdftpd i found this one but im still having problems who can helpme?
[05:25] <tabaco> somebody can helpme in the install of the soft
[05:25] <tabaco> please?
[05:30] <syntax-breaker> tabaco: what linux dist. did you used?
[05:31] <tabaco> kubuntu
[05:32] <tabaco> its a tar file
[05:33] <tabaco> wzdftpd.tar.gz
[05:33] <tabaco> in kubuntu machine
[05:33] <tabaco> how install de damn soft
[05:34] <SubOne> tabaco: watch your mouth
[05:34] <SubOne> tabaco: why do you need an ftpd
[05:35] <tabaco> need the ftp in the job
[05:35] <Jucato> !patience | tabaco
[05:35] <ubotu> tabaco: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:36] <tabaco> im doing but when i do the examples i get error mesages in dont understand where is the problem
[05:36] <pheaver> hey, anyone want a chance to convert a poor gentoo user back to ubuntu?
[05:36] <tabaco> and you are right thanks for the advise
[05:37] <SubOne> !pastebin | tabaco
[05:37] <ubotu> tabaco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <tabaco> ok sorry people
[05:39] <tabaco> by the way i dont speak english i doing my best
[05:41] <syntax-breaker> hey tabako: did u have Kubuntu 7.04?
[05:41] <tabaco> mmmm
[05:41] <tabaco> god question
[05:41] <tabaco> let me see
[05:42] <tabaco> yes 7.04 i386
[05:43] <Druntar> Hello folks
[05:43] <syntax-breaker> tabaco: actually, i'am using Ubuntu Feisty 7.04, but i also want to use Kubuntu.. so i've installed Kubuntu Desktop in order for me to try
[05:44] <SubOne> Hello Druntar
[05:44] <Druntar> I hate to be bothering everyone about this again but maybe someone can help me.
[05:45] <Druntar> My mouse keeps cutting out on me. Last night cWolfe had me try changing my xorg.conf file to use the evdev driver but it didn't help.
[05:45] <tabaco>  <syntax-breaker> jesus men you are talk in chinese for me
[05:45] <Druntar> I'm using a logitech g5 laser mouse
[05:46] <i0n> i'm using it too :)
[05:46] <sub16> hi all
[05:46] <Druntar> periodically it will just stop working
[05:46] <i0n> hmm
[05:46] <Druntar> if I move it extremely slow and cut the dpi down to 400 it lasts longer
[05:46] <sub16> need some help im looking for a remote desktop so i can remote to my win 2003 server mich ant iders
[05:46] <sub16> iders
[05:47] <Druntar> but will eventually stop working
[05:47] <i0n> hmm. dunno=\
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: same prob, huh...
[05:48] <sub16> helooo
[05:48] <Druntar> yeah was hoping someone might be on who could help me
[05:48] <wolferine> I am having issues with concurrent sounds, if I listen to music then play a movie (this is just an example), sometimes my music wont play when I start it again, anything I can do to troubleshoot sound issues?
[05:49] <sub16> dos any one of a good remote desktop foe kubuntu so i can conn to my win 2003 server mich
[05:49] <Druntar> I'm trying to update my vid drivers too but it's not working right
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: that sounds like a possible kernel issue...
[05:49] <raylu> wolferine, try killall artsd in between switching
[05:49] <Druntar> yeah you were the one who said that last night weren't you?
[05:50] <wolferine> raylu, is that a running process?
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: nah, iwas the one who said the buffer wasn't emptying properly
[05:50] <wolferine> ah
[05:50] <wolferine> it is
[05:50] <Druntar> oh lol.
[05:51] <raylu> wolferine, er...yes
[05:51] <Druntar> Sorry, so many people tried to help last night I can't keep track of them all.
[05:51] <raylu> oh, you answered it yourself =\
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: have you run a memtest lately?
[05:52] <sudoman> ./join #cuh
[05:52] <Druntar> no
[05:52] <Druntar> didn't know I was supposed to
[05:52] <Druntar> I'm completely new to linux
[05:52] <Druntar> I'm so wet behind the ears it's ridiculous
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> Druntar: its one of the options in grub, tests your ram to make sure its still working
[05:53] <wolferine> raylu, why is sound on linux so bad anyways?
[05:53] <redfive_> any good guides to compiling the kernel for kubuntu 7.04?
[05:53] <Druntar> no I haven't run one but it should be
[05:53] <Druntar> it's less then 3 months old
[05:53] <osiris> wolferine, its not with a soundblaster
[05:53] <redfive_> ot is it even nessary on amd64
[05:53] <Druntar> I'll try that in a second
[05:53] <wolferine> osiris, i dont beleive you :)
[05:54] <Druntar> right now trying to figure out why I can't install this driver I downloaded for my video
[05:54] <raylu> wolferine, it's fine for me...
[05:55] <Druntar> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run ok that's teh command the nvidia site says to use to install the package
[05:55] <wolferine> nope, that killall did nothing
[05:56] <Druntar> but when I run it I get sh: cant open (insert package name here)
[05:56] <Druntar> yes I've tried sudo
[05:56] <Druntar> still won't install
[05:56] <redfive_> Druntar: Druntaryou have to have X stoped
[05:56] <Druntar> .....ok I don't know how to do that
[05:57] <redfive_> well, thers some steps
[05:57] <redfive_> you using KDFE?
[05:57] <redfive_> KDE?
[05:57] <Druntar> Kubuntu feisty
[05:57] <redfive_> k
[05:57] <redfive_> i can tell you all the steps if you want
[05:57] <Druntar> that'd be great
[05:58] <Druntar> might want to whisper them though to not get in other peoples way
[05:58] <tabaco> no please i want hear too
[05:58] <Druntar> ok
[05:58] <Druntar> lead the way redfive
[05:58] <Supaplex> what blogging software can I use that'll publish static content to my website?  I was hoping for a template, or using server side includes.
[05:59] <redfive_> hit CTRL+F1 to bring up a different term, log in as root then do /ets/init.d/kdm stop
[05:59] <redfive_> at that point X will be stoped
[05:59] <raylu> redfive, Ctrl+Alt+F1, I believe
[05:59] <redfive_> then go inthe dir with the nvidia package
[05:59] <redfive_> yes
[05:59] <raylu> Ctrl+F# from a tty
[05:59] <redfive_> CTRL+ALT+F1
[06:00] <redfive_> then, sh NVIDIA(whatever your package name is)
[06:00] <redfive_> yes to everything in that
[06:01] <redfive_> then do /etc/init.d/kdm start and you should see the nvidia logo
[06:01] <redfive_> rebott to make sure everything works
[06:01] <raylu> you could also just use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart X
[06:01] <redfive_> well, you need X to be stopped to install
[06:01] <raylu> oh. install. heh
[06:02] <souza> boa noite
[06:02] <raylu> huh?
[06:03] <Druntar> ok I'm an idiot
[06:03] <Druntar> hit ctrl alt f1 before getting all the steps
[06:03] <Druntar> sorry
[06:03] <redfive_> ya
[06:03] <redfive_> you can always get back to X when its stopped by hitting CTRL+ALT+F7
[06:04] <Druntar> ok but basically do that log in as root then installing it
[06:04] <redfive_> or whrn its started i mean
[06:04] <Druntar> oh thx for the tip
[06:04] <redfive_> sure
[06:04] <wolferine> when I use Kemdiafactroy, and it loads K3B, I get the following error (in a nutshell): "Mp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found", could this be related to my audio issues, or is this maybe an issue with in K3B directly?
[06:04] <Druntar> how do I stop x while in there again?
[06:05] <redfive_> use automatrix2 to get all media stuff, mp3 codecs
[06:05] <tabaco> how install a soft downloaded can you helpme?
[06:05] <redfive_> Druntar: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:05] <wolferine> redfive, me?
[06:05] <Druntar> ok thank you
[06:05] <redfive_> and then /etc/init.d/kdm start, to start it
[06:05] <Druntar> sudo that right?
[06:05] <redfive_> you dont need to , you should be logged in as root
[06:06] <Druntar> lol yeah that's right lol
[06:06] <redfive_> well, do this befor starting,
[06:06] <redfive_> open a terminal and do sudo passwd, and set the password to what you use to lig into kde
[06:06] <Druntar> it's already done that way
[06:06] <redfive_> good
[06:06] <Druntar> kde does that on install
[06:06] <Druntar> I remember reading that somwhere
[06:06] <Druntar> ....only 4th day in linux
[06:07] <redfive_> well, not tenically
[06:07] <redfive_> when you change your user password the root stays the same
[06:07] <Druntar> ahhh
[06:07] <Druntar> never changed it from initial install
[06:07] <Druntar> lol
[06:07] <redfive_> not like you should use root, you usualy dont need to
[06:08] <redfive_> its best pratice in linux to not, that what threy teach in schools
[06:09] <Druntar> lol
[06:09] <Druntar> ok well here goes
[06:09] <redfive_> hehe
[06:10] <redfive_> do it in the order i told you
[06:10] <redfive_> you should be fine
[06:10] <wolferine> when I use Kemdiafactroy, and it loads K3B, I get the following error (in a nutshell): "Mp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found", could this be related to my audio issues, or is this maybe an issue with in K3B directly?
[06:10] <redfive_> wolferine; did you install an mp3 coedc?
[06:10] <osiris> k3b probablyt
[06:11] <osiris> !restricted plugins
[06:11] <wolferine> redfive, well, I can play mp3s, so I guess that would be a yes
[06:11] <osiris> !restricted formats
[06:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:12] <wolferine> redfive, right?
[06:12] <redfive_> wolferine; thers lots og huides to install mp3 codec, kist do a google search, i used automatrix but i think it might be for amd64
[06:13] <raylu> I thought the issue wasn't his MP3 codec (or lack of)?
[06:13] <wolferine> redfive, search for codecs specific to k3b?
[06:13] <redfive_> mp3 in general
[06:13] <wolferine> or an mp3 codec in general?
[06:13] <redfive_> dod you install it from adept?
[06:13] <wolferine> well, how can I play mp3 files with out a codec?
[06:13] <wolferine> redfive, install what?
[06:13] <Druntar> ok redfive_ that didn't work
[06:14] <redfive_> whats K3B?
[06:14] <Druntar> once I stopped kde it brought up a little blinking line like a command line but it wouldn't respond to anything
[06:14] <redfive_> ya
[06:14] <redfive_> you might have to hit CTRL+ALT+F7 then CTRL+ALT+F1
[06:14] <redfive_> you might have to go back and forth to make sre
[06:15] <redfive_> did you do yes on all the prompts in the install package?
[06:15] <wolferine> redfive, its used to burn cds/dvds
[06:16] <redfive_> ah
[06:16] <wolferine> its called by kmediaplayer, after I produce my menus
[06:17] <redfive_> and K3B wont install?
[06:17] <redfive_> or wont burn?
[06:17] <wolferine> seems when ppl are logging in (causing audio) to amsn, is pulling my sound to that app, so when I am playing music, just doesnt allow me to start it up again (just one example of my sound issues)
[06:17] <wolferine> redfive, maybe you need to scroll back up and read our convo again
[06:17] <Druntar> ok
[06:17] <Druntar> that was weird
[06:18] <wolferine> anyways, I am out for the nite
[06:18] <redfive_> i dont think i was in here for that
[06:18] <wolferine> later
[06:18] <wolferine> i think you were here for our convo :)
[06:18] <wolferine> lol
[06:19] <redfive_> maby i wasent.... smokie smokie
[06:19] <wolferine> :)
[06:19] <Druntar> lol I'm lost think I'll jsut go with the ubuntu specific nvidia driver
[06:20] <wolferine> Druntar, #ubuntu-effects could probably help
[06:20] <redfive_> well i have got others here to do it
[06:20] <Druntar> they're rude and unhelpful to me at least
[06:20] <Druntar> they're always very demeaning
[06:20] <redfive_> ?
[06:20] <redfive_> we can try again
[06:21] <wolferine> Druntar, try the ubuntu guide (google it)
[06:21] <wolferine> install the latest nvidia drivers
[06:21] <wolferine> and you should be up and running in no time
[06:21] <redfive_> i have done it this way for a long time
[06:21] <Druntar> it's ok
[06:21] <redfive_> in redhat
[06:21] <Druntar> I'll just use the ubuntu specific driver in adept
[06:21] <redfive_> kimped frpm that uo ubuntu a year ago
[06:21] <Druntar> it's not biggie
[06:22] <wolferine> Druntar, read the guide
[06:22] <Druntar> no
[06:22] <redfive_> k
[06:22] <wolferine> your new to ubuntu
[06:22] <wolferine> it will help you get everything setup
[06:22] <wolferine> in detail
[06:22] <Druntar> I downloaded and read teh kubuntu guide
[06:22] <wolferine> its excellent :)
[06:22] <Druntar> it was not very helpful
[06:22] <wolferine> Druntar, i said, ubuntu guide
[06:22] <Druntar> oh
[06:22] <Druntar> my mistake
[06:22] <wolferine> its the top in google
[06:23] <wolferine> lists all packages you want/could have
[06:23] <wolferine> and explains everything in detail
[06:24] <Druntar> thank you wolf
[06:24] <redfive_> or just go at it hack and slash and try and fix it
[06:25] <redfive_> google is your friend
[06:25] <Druntar> I know but so far I've googled my mouse problem and found no help
[06:25] <redfive_> what mouse problem?
[06:26] <Druntar> mouse will cut out sometimes and it takes a reboot to get it going again
[06:26] <Druntar> it's a logitech g5
[06:26] <redfive_> usb?
[06:26] <Druntar> if I turn it down to 400 dpi and move it really slow it'll work longer
[06:26] <Druntar> yeah
[06:26] <redfive_> what kind of mainboard do you have?
[06:26] <Druntar> I've tried using the evdev driver but when I do kubuntu won't even boot
[06:27] <Druntar> asus p5nsli
[06:27] <redfive_> you could probebly hit CTRL+ALT+Backspace to restart X and it will come up
[06:28] <Druntar> I'll try that next time it quits
[06:28] <Druntar> it's working right now
[06:28] <Druntar> someone said last night it may be a kernel issue or the buffer backing up
[06:28] <redfive_> try different usb port?
[06:28] <Druntar> yup
[06:29] <Druntar> tried unplugging and replugging in too
[06:29] <Druntar> kernel acks unplugg but not replug
[06:29] <redfive_> try to find it inn the x config in the System Settings?
[06:29] <Druntar> I believe so
[06:29] <Druntar> it's using the 'mouse' driver
[06:30] <Druntar> someone last night wanted me to try the 'evdev' driver, but that stopped kubuntu from even booting
[06:30] <raylu> did you catch the error X threw?
[06:30] <raylu> crap. I'm speaking in those terms now =\
[06:30] <Druntar> it doesn't throw one when the mouse stops
[06:31] <Druntar> the mouse just stops
[06:31] <raylu> I thought you said kde didn't start
[06:31] <raylu> when you tried the evdev driver
[06:31] <Druntar> oh no there isn't an error
[06:31] <Druntar> it just doesn't boot
[06:31] <raylu> you mean you get a tty instead of the gui?
[06:31] <Druntar> goes to a black screen with a little blinking line at the top
[06:31] <Druntar> and doesn't respond to any commands
[06:31] <raylu> yeah, it probably gave an error at...(one sec)
[06:31] <raylu> when you see that screen, btw, you can always use ctrl+alt+f1
[06:32] <redfive_> its ok, i caint get wine working?
[06:33] <Druntar> I'm having all kinds of issues
[06:33] <Druntar> the mouse thing. Beryl throws me the white screen of death
[06:33] <redfive_> wow
[06:34] <redfive_> and i thought i was having a hard time with kubuntu amd64
[06:34] <raylu> the xorg log might be in /sys
[06:34] <raylu> i can't remember where it should be, Druntar
[06:34] <Druntar> you're speaking greek to me raylu
[06:34] <redfive_> actuallt, automatrix2 fixed alot of it
[06:35] <Druntar> I'm getting to the point where I don't know if it's this distro of linux or if I should go running back to windows with my tail between my legs
[06:35] <Druntar> I REALLY don't want to do that
[06:35] <raylu> nevermind...its in /var/log/
[06:35] <redfive_> your using kubuntu? 7.04?
[06:35] <Druntar> yeah
[06:35] <redfive_> not the beta?
[06:35] <Druntar> got it off the site from the download link
[06:35] <Druntar> took me 2 days to install it
[06:35] <redfive_> try a reinstall
[06:36] <Druntar> cause it would lock my system up
[06:36] <redfive_> should only take a half hour
[06:36] <raylu> Druntar, the X error log will be at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. when you see that blinking screen, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, and use nano
[06:36] <redfive_> you have intel?
[06:36] <Druntar> took me 2 days and the install when it worked took almost 6 hours
[06:36] <Druntar> pentium D 3.2 Ghz dual core
[06:37] <Druntar> 1 gig of ram
[06:37] <Druntar> 250Gb sata HD
[06:37] <redfive_> try that alternate install
[06:37] <Druntar> I just built this machine 3 months ago
[06:37] <redfive_> different disk
[06:37] <Druntar> that's the one that took
[06:37] <redfive_> the DVD?
[06:37] <Druntar> can't don't have any blank dvds
[06:37] <Druntar> can't afford to buy any either
[06:37] <redfive_> dammit jim
[06:38] <Druntar> exactly lol
[06:38] <redfive_> get one!
[06:38] <redfive_> 55 for a lite on dvd-rw drive
[06:38] <Druntar> I have a burner
[06:38] <Druntar> just not a blank DVD to burn to
[06:38] <Druntar> lol
[06:38] <redfive_> anyway, try text based install next time
[06:39] <Druntar> I'll try a reinstall shit what do I have to lose? it's not like it's working right now anyway
[06:39] <redfive_> steel some from work!
[06:39] <Druntar> unemployed right now that's why I can't buy one lol
[06:39] <redfive_> heh, im a bad infulence
[06:39] <Druntar> I don't know how to do text install
[06:39] <redfive_> its cake
[06:40] <redfive_> you have ant experence with linux?
[06:40] <Druntar> nope
[06:40] <Druntar> this is my 4th day
[06:40] <redfive_> hehe
[06:40] <raylu> that's 3+ days of experience!
[06:40] <Druntar> only know what people in this room have taught me
[06:40] <redfive_> good
[06:40] <Druntar> first two were installing lol
[06:40] <thony> chee
[06:40] <Druntar> so really only 2 days of using
[06:40] <redfive_> just download a debain book
[06:40] <thony> good
[06:40] <Druntar> and that's barely
[06:40] <Druntar> lol
[06:40] <redfive_> go through it
[06:41] <Druntar> ok brb
[06:41] <redfive_> im not kidding
[06:41] <redfive_> i have many linux e-books
[06:41] <Druntar> I learn from doing not reading I could read a book all day but it won't teach me crap
[06:41] <redfive_> i think ubuntu is a brance off debain
[06:41] <Druntar> it's based on debian
[06:41] <Druntar> ok hopefully back soon
[06:42] <redfive_> well, then install install and install again!
[06:42] <redfive_> what video card do you have?
[06:44] <syntax-breaker> cno poh ba administrator dito?
[06:44] <Jucato> syntax-breaker: english only please
[06:49] <syntax-breaker> hello.. i want to install my counter strike condition 0 CD but it doesn't start the installation process.
[06:50] <raylu> syntax-breaker, I assume you're wining it?
[06:51] <syntax-breaker> i gues i need to use wine emulator.. ok i'll try
[06:53] <CU> Hi - Will you please see if you can load the samsung.com web site properly using fiesty & fiesty's firefox, & tell me your result? Thanks.  It's not displaying properly for me on this fiesty install.
[06:54] <LinkCanabico> ubuntu HI didnt you say your nick would be ar53n?
[06:56] <syntax-breaker> CU:  there's no problem with that web site.. its ok
[06:57] <CU> syntax-breaker: thanks - any idea why I'm seeing a problem - white rectangles blocking significant parts of the display?
[06:58] <LinkCanabico> CU plugins maby
[06:59] <HKJGN_> were do i go to complain about moderators?
[06:59] <khaije1> is democracyplayer is the best video aggregator? I don't want to install it w/o thought y'know?
[06:59] <HKJGN_> i was just banned for agreeing to follow the rules
[06:59] <khaije1> are there any other great ones? for kde especially?
[06:59] <syntax-breaker> CU check your firefox version or you should refresh your screen.
[06:59] <CU> LinkCanabico: about:plugins: shockwave flash, & java (direct from sun download, iirc) - any ideas what might be the problem?
[07:00] <Jucato> HKJGN_: moderators of the IRC channels or the ubuntuforums?
[07:00] <cWolfe> heh HKJGN_  my freind got me banned from #ubuntu
[07:00] <HKJGN_> Jucato: i was banned on ubuntu-offtopic cause i agreed to drop a subject
[07:00] <Jucato> HKJGN_: #ubuntu-ops then
[07:01] <Jucato> (most bans also just last 24 hours)
[07:01] <HKJGN_> the moderator was pissing vinegar after i got banned for saying Nazi, calling me a child and etc, so i left it alone, and he banned me
[07:01] <CU> syntax-breaker: firefox 2.0.0.3, and someone in #ubuntu just confirmed he has this problem too.
[07:02] <CU> syntax-breaker:  I'm seeing a problem - white rectangles blocking significant parts of the display?
[07:04] <syntax-breaker> ahhhmm,, try to refresh your screen and check your screen resolution make your default reso. 1024x768
[07:04] <redfive_> i still caint get wine to work
[07:04] <redfive_> i think its amd64
[07:06] <HKJGN_> well, now that ive filed that complaint
[07:07] <syntax-breaker> CU: or try to use Koqueror Browser.
[07:07] <CU> syntax-breaker: konqueror is failing to get a net connection, opera has some different failure with the web page, & a friend usin OSX has no problem
[07:07] <HKJGN_> thanks for the help, atleast some people dont suck :D later, i dont use Kubuntu, i dont want to get thrown out, lol
[07:08] <CU> syntax-breaker: are you using fiesty & the 2.0.0.3 firefox? Any plugins?
[07:09] <redfive_> does wine work on amd64?
[07:09] <lespea> quick ? -- where's the snow option in beryl... i can't find it!
[07:09] <redfive_> i caint get snow to work
[07:09] <lespea> do you know under which menu it is though?
[07:10] <redfive_> beryl setting manager, extras
[07:10] <redfive_> caint get water to work
[07:10] <syntax-breaker> CU: yeah am using Feisty 7.04.. i both used Firefox & Konqueror as well as Opera but it doesn't seems to have any problem here
[07:11] <lespea> yeah i don't have snow but I could have swore i had it earlier
[07:11] <redfive_> what does  Package wine has no installation candidate   mean?
[07:11] <lespea> also, wtf is rain wiper?
[07:11] <ubuntu_> so I have reformated my linux partitions, but now windows wont boot because of grub "error 17", what do I do
[07:11] <Cnl_Delta> hi where are webcams and their settings normally found in kubuntu?
[07:12] <CU> syntax-breaker: No problem with F, K & O??? wow. Any idea what my problem might be?
[07:12] <CU> syntax-breaker: the menu's on that web page work ok?  Do yo uhave shockwave flash & java?
[07:13] <syntax-breaker> CU: yep.. i've got that, ahhmm ok u check if you have flash or java installed.
[07:15] <underzr0> I LIKE CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:16] <underzr0> BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:16] <killian> i like microwave chicken burritoes
[07:17] <underzr0> ICECREEM!!!!!!!!!
[07:17] <CU> syntax-breaker: about:plugins: shockwave flash, & java (direct from sun download, iirc)
[07:17] <underzr0> BOTH!!!!!!!!!!
[07:17] <CU> syntax-breaker: any ideas?
[07:17] <underzr0> CHEESE?!?!?!?!? O.o
[07:19] <Rictoo> I heard I can load the Kubuntu live CD into RAM
[07:19] <Rictoo> How would I go about doing that?
[07:19] <underzr0> WHAT?
[07:19] <fulat2k> is superkaramba still the app to use for widgets?
[07:19] <Rictoo> (00:15:04) (underzr0) WHAT?
[07:19] <Rictoo> aka., running kubuntu from ram -.-'
[07:19] <Rictoo> It loads the entire Kubuntu into RAM, and it runs from ther
[07:20] <Rictoo> and it's EXTREMELY fast
[07:20] <underzr0> I'm not to sure
[07:20] <fulat2k> Rictoo: something like fedora's live cd?
[07:20] <Rictoo> I'm not sure what Fedoa's live CD is like =p
[07:20] <Rictoo> Fedora*
[07:20] <underzr0> plus why would you choose kubuntu over lovely ubuntu?!?!?!?
[07:20] <Rictoo> Because KDE > Gnome
[07:21] <carutsu_> Rictoo: although i agree you shouldnt say that they are doferent
[07:21] <Taladan> underzr0: because linux is about choice
[07:21] <underzr0> you hurt my feelings :'(
[07:21] <syntax-breaker> CU: maybe u have a prob. on your screen resolution. or if it doesn't work, u should restart ur system or you need to reinstall your browser
[07:21] <carutsu_> Rictoo: i agree, the fact YOU can choose is what's good about linux
[07:23] <carutsu_> well, is there a way to set more scale points in the power managment, currently i have only two choices 1/2 and full, can it be say 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 full?
[07:23] <underzr0> bu bu bu gnome rox my sox!
[07:24] <CU> syntax-breaker: thanks.  my screen res seems ok (laptop, most aps work fine).
[07:24] <carutsu_> anyone?
[07:27] <carutsu_> !power manager
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <underzr0> Hey people
[07:28] <Taladan> Hey person.
[07:28] <underzr0> What are some supper great add ons for gnome?
[07:29] <Taladan> KDE
[07:29] <carutsu_> XD
[07:29] <Jucato> underzr0: #ubuntu for GNOME stuff
[07:29] <Taladan> ;)
[07:29] <underzr0> ok
[07:29] <carutsu_> that was like an infomertial or something
[07:29] <Taladan> HeadOn!  Apply directly to the forehead!
[07:30] <underzr0> I was just thinking about that comercial today
[07:30] <underzr0> weird....
[07:31] <Taladan> carutsu_: I'm sure you can google it.
[07:31] <Taladan> it's out there.
[07:31] <carutsu_> HeadOn?
[07:31] <underzr0> ya
[07:31] <underzr0> you will see why we talk about it :P
[07:32] <syntax-breaker> coOl dudess ;))
[07:32] <carutsu_> yep is on youtube
[07:32] <carutsu_> OMG, that's annoying
[07:32] <underzr0> very
[07:33] <underzr0> i swear if i ever hear that voice again all kill somebody
[07:33] <carutsu_> XD
[07:33] <carutsu_> but it's a good commercial, see, now even i've heard of it
[07:34] <underzr0> meh
[07:34] <carutsu_> you guys remember the product and recommend other to see the 'annoying' comercial
[07:34] <carutsu_> XD it's weird how it works
[07:35] <carutsu_> although i totally agree that are the most annoying 15 seconds i've ever seen, xD
[07:36] <underzr0> i swear...
[07:36] <underzr0> i really will
[07:36] <carutsu_> XDX
[07:36] <carutsu_> HeadOn! Apply... *Carutsu runs to hide*
[07:38] <underzr0> it has to be that exact voice
[07:38] <carutsu_> underzr0: XD
[07:40] <marlinth> Hello
[07:40] <underzr0> then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face
[07:40] <marlinth> I'm having problems with a logitech g5 laser mouse
[07:40] <marlinth> .....O_O
[07:40] <marlinth> I'm running kubuntu feisty
[07:40] <marlinth> and the mouse stops working if I move it too fast.
[07:41] <underzr0>  then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face
[07:42] <marlinth> ....?
[07:42] <xlos> marlinth: ahhm,, check your mouse settings speed
[07:42] <lespea> okay, this, is ... odd
[07:43] <underzr0> i want to see the look on peoples message every time they come in :D
[07:43] <lespea> if i turn on the desktop-preview applet; it shows FORTY EIGHT desktops!
[07:43] <marlinth> under system->keyboard and mouse-> mouse
[07:43] <marlinth> ?
[07:43] <lespea> but, i only have 4 enabled under both beryl and the regular menu
[07:43] <xlos> yep
[07:43] <underzr0>  then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face
[07:43] <marlinth> ummm what am I looking for on that tab exactly?
[07:44] <underzr0> i hope people don't take this seriuosly and kick me
[07:44] <lespea> lol
[07:44] <carutsu_> lol
[07:44] <underzr0> ive done that before
[07:45] <marlinth> ummmm xlos?
[07:45] <carutsu_> underzr0: done what?
[07:45] <underzr0> what you did
[07:45] <carutsu_> XD
[07:45] <marlinth> I'm assuming I need to go to the advanced tab since there is nothing on the main tab about it
[07:45] <carutsu_> shouldn't we get back to topic?
[07:45] <underzr0> OWNED
[07:45] <underzr0> :P
[07:45] <underzr0> jk
[07:46] <carutsu_> XD
[07:47] <carutsu_> underzr0: we should stop it before someone 'kindly' point us to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:47] <underzr0> ya i guess lol
[07:47] <underzr0> wait they have one?!?!? why am i here?
[07:47] <carutsu_> XD underzr0 there's definetly one
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> i need a dvd ripper that uses Ogg Vorbis
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> ideas?L
[07:48] <raylu|AFK> rip, convert?
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> ripper
[07:50] <carutsu_> raylu|AFK: K3B?
[07:50] <carutsu_> raylu|AFK: Kjuicer? or something like that
[07:50] <carutsu_> !k3B
[07:50] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[07:50] <carutsu_> oops, i ment Admiral_Chicago
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i mean ogg theora appearently
[07:51] <nerdparty> Hey Kubuntu, how do I make my folders invisible?
[07:51] <carutsu_> Admiral_Chicago: that var name wasn't declared in carutsu's scope
[07:51] <lespea> could somebody please look at this http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/7/f_omgm_794f2fb.png and tell me why it's doing that lol
[07:51] <carutsu_> XD, forget about it, i've had too much C++ for today
[07:51] <fulat2k> nerdparty: rename it and add a . in front :)
[07:51] <nerdparty> Thanks!
[07:52] <carutsu_> lespea: WOW
[07:52] <lespea> yeah...
[07:52] <carutsu_> !theora
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <fulat2k> nerdparty: that applies to files as well.
[07:52] <lespea> there's only 4 enabled in both baryl and the default one
[07:52] <fulat2k> !karamba
[07:52] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[07:52] <lespea> (desktop settings or whatever)
[07:52] <lespea> i just renamed them and all the duplicates are named desktop 1 !!!
[07:53] <carutsu_> mm, sounds like something's corrupted
[07:53] <nerdparty> lespea: is that a comma or a period?
[07:53] <lespea> hmm?
[07:53] <nerdparty> lespea: That I put in front of the file name.
[07:53] <lespea> umm... ?
[07:53] <chx> I have a serious gripe with kmix , if my click does not really gripe the slider then the volume will crank up like mad
[07:53] <lespea> oh you're thinking of fulat2k
[07:54] <lespea> looks like a period to me
[07:54] <nerdparty> lespea: err, sorry. Sike!
[07:54] <lespea> lol np
[07:54] <lespea> car -- any suggestions?
[07:55] <nerdparty> fulat2k: Thanks a million!
[07:56] <carutsu_> lespea: sorry no clues from me
[07:56] <abortd> is there any good program someone would recommend to host a website if all i wanted it to do is access mp3s from my one pc so i can play them over my wii browser?
[07:57] <raylu|AFK> lespea, set it to 1 in beryl
[07:57] <raylu|AFK> and 4 in the kde thing
[07:57] <lespea> abortd: ssh?
[07:57] <lespea> okay, will try
[07:57] <abortd> ssh?
[07:57] <lespea> thanks
[07:58] <raylu|AFK> abortd, access as in stream?
[07:58] <marlinth> ok I have a question my mouse just locked up
[07:58] <abortd> access as in having a player in he webpage that played a large list of mp3s
[07:58] <abortd> so streaming i guess
[07:58] <marlinth> so I opened /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:59] <marlinth> in kate
[07:59] <raylu> abortd, will the wii player work with a shoutcast station?
[07:59] <abortd> the*
[07:59] <abortd> hm not sure
[07:59] <marlinth> looking at the tail end it says (**) configured mouse: protocol: "ImPS/2"
[07:59] <abortd> nintendo wii
[07:59] <marlinth> shouldnt' that be usb since it's a usb mouse?
[07:59] <abortd> i doubt and i doubt it
[08:00] <raylu> marlinth, you might want to look up a config for your specific model
[08:00] <raylu> abortd, try a random shoutcast station
[08:00] <abortd> hm
[08:00] <marlinth> can't find one for the g5
[08:00] <abortd> i wonder if wii has a media player for its browser
[08:00] <abortd> i could just post the file directory?
[08:01] <abortd> that would kinda suck though
[08:01] <fakepatriot> can someone tell me how to add a larger screen resolution in kubuntu feisty?
[08:02] <underzr0> umm
[08:02] <marlinth> ok this is weird in Konsole when I ran the kate command to open the conf I got this error
[08:02] <underzr0> you have to go into some crap and get technical
[08:02] <raylu> marlinth, in a terminal, you should use nano or vim for text editing.
[08:02] <underzr0> then you have to download crap
[08:02] <raylu> alt+f2 for kate
[08:02] <marlinth> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or ininitialized input device 167
[08:02] <raylu> fakepatriot, edit your xorg.conf
[08:03] <marlinth> could that be related to my mouse?
[08:03] <fakepatriot> raylu: thanks
[08:03] <marlinth> major opcode: 144
[08:03] <marlinth> minor opcode: 3
[08:03] <marlinth> Resource id: 0x0
[08:03] <raylu> marlinth, you _could_ try Option "Protocol" "auto"
[08:03] <raylu> but i wouldn't recommend it
[08:04] <marlinth> I don't know that much I'm relatively new to linux
[08:04] <raylu> or this: http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux/
[08:04] <marlinth> can't click on it lol
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> Where does aptitude store it's .deb files it downloads again?
[08:04] <raylu> oh.
[08:04] <raylu> [01:02:24]  <raylu> marlinth, in a terminal, you should use nano or vim for text editing. [01:02:28]  <raylu> alt+f2 for kate
[08:04] <chx> Maxdamantus: look around in /var/cache
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> Thanks.
[08:05] <chx> Maxdamantus: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:05] <Maxdamantus> /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:05] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[08:05] <marlinth> what's the option I need to set for the protocol field for a usb mouse?
[08:06] <marlinth> I'm trying to alter the xorg.conf file to use usb for my mouse instead of ps/2
[08:07] <marlinth> the protocol option is set to ImPS/2 right now
[08:08] <Maxdamantus> Does it work on the LiveCD through USB?
[08:08] <underzr0>  then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face
[08:08] <Rictoo> (01:04:11)  join: (root__) (n=root@82.78.149.36)
[08:08] <marlinth> no it drops either way
[08:08] <Rictoo> i... d.... i... o.. t....
[08:08] <raylu> marlinth, "evdev" for the g7
[08:08] <Maxdamantus> Rictoo..
[08:08] <Rictoo> LETS HAX HIM
[08:08] <marlinth> it's a g5
[08:09] <underzr0> What?
[08:09] <Maxdamantus> That's what happens when you run Konversation off the livecd.
[08:09] <Rictoo> Haxing... <82.78.149.36>
[08:09] <raylu> I know, but I imagine that it would be the same
[08:09] <marlinth> I'm running off an install not the cd
[08:09] <raylu> he's talking about root__
[08:09] <Maxdamantus> I meant for root__
[08:09] <underzr0> are you running gnome?
[08:09] <Rictoo> i'm talking about root__
[08:09] <raylu> lol...
[08:10] <Maxdamantus> When you run Konversation, by default. when you run it, it tries using the users name from Linux.
[08:10] <underzr0> i know
[08:10] <underzr0>  then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face
[08:10] <Maxdamantus> And when you boot into the LiveCD, it logs in as root.
[08:10] <marlinth> ok so yeah I've set the driver to evdev in the xorg.conf file
[08:10] <marlinth> how do I save it in kate without a mouse ?
[08:10] <raylu> ctrl+s
[08:10] <underzr0> that's right you better run os2 something else
[08:10] <raylu> i'm going to guess you didn't kdesu kate
[08:10] <raylu> and it's telling you something about how it can't save
[08:11] <marlinth> yeah
[08:11] <marlinth> I'm an idiot
[08:11] <marlinth> lol
[08:11] <Maxdamantus> I use nano for system files.
[08:11] <underzr0>  then i will rip somebodys heart out and splater it in there face
[08:11] <raylu> *their
[08:11] <raylu> *splatter
[08:11] <Maxdamantus> Can't be bothered waiting for kwrite to contact the x server each time. :P
[08:11] <raylu> so you'd rather wait for a konsole to contact it?
[08:12] <underzr0> Why do you correct my grammer?
[08:12] <raylu> *grammar? spelling?
[08:12] <Maxdamantus> The konsole doesn't contact the xserver, only from the login your using.
[08:12] <underzr0> GOD!
[08:12] <marlinth> here's hoping
[08:12] <raylu> LOL
[08:12] <underzr0> stop doing that
[08:13] <underzr0> :P
[08:13] <Maxdamantus> If you run a terminal program in konsole, it isn't contacting the xserver.
[08:13] <raylu> but konsole had to contact it
[08:13] <syntax-breaker> what is the difference of terminal program & konsole?
[08:14] <raylu> terminal programs run inside konsole
[08:14] <raylu> which is like a wrapper for terminals..sort of...i think
[08:14] <Maxdamantus> ....
[08:14] <raylu> unless you run it in another tty, you have to contact the xserver
[08:14] <underzr0> ya run like a chicken alex
[08:15] <lespea> well I had to restart X and i went through beryl again... but with 1 desktop in both i still have 12 "desktops"
[08:15] <Maxdamantus> When you run a program inside the terminal, only the Konsole itself is contacting the XServer.
[08:15] <Maxdamantus> If you kdesu a program in terminal, the program starts up, and root has to contact the xserver with it.
[08:15] <underzr0> Whoever thou uses Kubuntu is cursed with a never ending curse!
[08:15] <Maxdamantus> Creating a new virtual session kind of in kde.
[08:16] <raylu> right...
[08:16] <Maxdamantus> underzr0, I don't seem to be cursed.
[08:16] <raylu> so, again, unless you run it in another tty, you're still contacting xserver
[08:16] <underzr0> That's what you think...
[08:16] <Maxdamantus> raylu, no.
[08:16] <Maxdamantus> The console is actually contacting the KDE session you have open.
[08:17] <underzr0> Did i make you cry daisuke?
[08:17] <underzr0> xD
[08:17] <Maxdamantus> Otherwise it would take like 30 seconds to open each GUI program.
[08:17] <Maxdamantus> That's why you have a desktop environment.
[08:17] <raylu> o.0
[08:18] <underzr0> Have you noticed kde is cool
[08:18] <raylu> 0.o
[08:18] <raylu> o.0
[08:18] <underzr0> that came out wrong!
[08:18] <raylu> i see.
[08:18] <underzr0> have you ever noticed gnome is cool?
[08:18] <underzr0> wait...
[08:19] <underzr0> ya i think i said that right
[08:19] <raylu> *that
[08:19] <Maxdamantus> Doesn't need the "that".
[08:19] <Maxdamantus> Makes sense without it.
[08:20] <underzr0> OMG
[08:20] <underzr0> everyone corrects my grammar
[08:21] <raylu> er...no. its just me. and that's the first time. it was spelling, remember?
[08:21] <raylu> i was debating whether or not it needed that
[08:21] <lespea> any beryl experts in here?
[08:21] <raylu> but because it'd be funny, I decided to just say it :P
[08:21] <raylu> there's a #beryl, lespea
[08:22] <lespea> nobody's responding :(
[08:22] <raylu> and a #ubuntu-effects
[08:22] <lespea> I think it's a beryl problem...
[08:22] <lespea> my desktops are super-multiplying
[08:22] <lespea> 1 = 6 (or 12 sometimes)
[08:22] <lespea> 4 == 48
[08:22] <raylu> you could export your beryl settings and pastebin them
[08:22] <lespea> :o
[08:22] <lespea> hmm k
[08:23] <Maxdamantus> Multiplying ftw.
[08:25] <lespea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19582/
[08:25] <Maxdamantus> Don't do this:
[08:25] <Maxdamantus> echo "while(1==1){shell_exec(\"screen -d -m php test.php\");}" >> test.php && php test.php
[08:25] <lespea> ooh somebody's in beryl
[08:25] <Maxdamantus> Wait, meant to have <?php and ?>
[08:25] <raylu> don't do this: "sudo rm -rfd ./" and leave out the period
[08:26] <Maxdamantus> echo "<?php while(1==1){shell_exec(\"screen -d -m php test.php\");} ?>" >> test.php && php test.php
[08:26] <Maxdamantus> I made that to see how much lag it would actually produce.
[08:26] <Maxdamantus> And had to force shutdown.
[08:27] <_underzr0> OWNED
[08:27] <_underzr0> i mean... darn
[08:27] <snake_> hi all
[08:27] <_underzr0> hi
[08:28] <_underzr0> do you use Konversation?
[08:28] <snake_> yes
[08:28] <raylu> ssh kill :P
[08:28] <_underzr0> ok good
[08:28] <snake_> what is the best compression tool i can get
[08:28] <_underzr0> snake: do you use Kde or gnome?
[08:28] <snake_> kde
[08:29] <raylu> snake_, for files?
[08:29] <_underzr0> i'm not longer speaking to you!>:(
[08:29] <_underzr0> :P
[08:29] <raylu> ark comes with kde and it supports like...everything
[08:29] <_underzr0> jk
[08:29] <snake_> raylu: yes
[08:29] <raylu> or do you mean compression format?
[08:30] <snake_> yes i know but i want something that can compress more than ark
[08:30] <snake_> in rar format
[08:30] <_underzr0> hello
[08:30] <raylu> why not something like tar.gz?
[08:30] <majnoon> is anyone else having trouble burning cdroms since upgrade ??
[08:31] <snake_> because the reason that i want rar
[08:31] <majnoon> this what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/
[08:31] <_underzr0> No, but then again i never burn cdroms
[08:31] <majnoon> this what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/
[08:31] <snake_> is something that i can not change
[08:31] <majnoon> it doesn't see cd-r in drive (it sees drive though)
[08:31] <_underzr0> majnoon you use gnome?
[08:32] <raylu> m...I suppose putting in .tar.gz format and then storing it as a .rar with the 0 compression method isn't an option?
[08:32] <majnoon> usually kde
[08:32] <raylu> majnoon, are you sure the cd is writable?
[08:32] <majnoon> yup brand new out of package ,tried 5 dif cd-r's
[08:32] <_underzr0> why does everybody use kde?
[08:32] <_underzr0> !>!!?!?!?!?
[08:33] <snake_> any idea of something that can compress to much ??
[08:33] <raylu> you're in the kubuntu channel. on another note, you're not being helpful
[08:33] <majnoon> doesn't see disk in drive
[08:33] <_underzr0> ok sorry
[08:33] <Maxdamantus> Because KDE is so much eliter than GNOME.
[08:33] <majnoon> i also use windowmaker blackbox and gnome
[08:33] <Maxdamantus> I have GNOME too though.
[08:33] <raylu> ew, ok, and ew
[08:33] <majnoon> this what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/
[08:34] <A_A> y can i not control the volume through kmix, even when i move the sliders it does nothing to my sound
[08:35] <Maxdamantus> majnoon, it isn't saying it's a cd-rw
[08:35] <majnoon> it cdR
[08:35] <majnoon> not rw
[08:35] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[08:35] <raylu> A_A, are you on a laptop by any chance?
[08:35] <Maxdamantus> It's not a CDR though.
[08:35] <A_A> nope
[08:35] <Maxdamantus> Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
[08:36] <raylu> A_A, perhaps you are moving the wrong channel
[08:36] <majnoon> look at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/
[08:36] <A_A> i moved them all
[08:36] <raylu> o.0
[08:36] <A_A> even the master volume doesnt do anything
[08:36] <majnoon> Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0
[08:36] <raylu> for me, moving the master volume has no effect on my headphone volume because it's not set as the master channel
[08:36] <A_A> not of the sliders in kmix do anything to my sound =\
[08:36] <A_A> not = none
[08:37] <raylu> i'm not too clear on how sound works
[08:37] <majnoon> this the command i used cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc /mnt/hdd4/storage/store/FreeSBIE-2.0.1-RELEASE.iso
[08:37] <A_A> O.o
[08:37] <A_A> lol
[08:37] <A_A> it seems kmic picked something up last time i booted
[08:37] <A_A> kmix
[08:38] <majnoon> tried rebooting into previous kernel and no change
[08:38] <raylu> why not use K3B?
[08:38] <Maxdamantus> Since when was a cd device hdc?
[08:38] <majnoon> i tried that too
[08:38] <Maxdamantus> hdc means hard drive 3.
[08:38] <Maxdamantus> Should be something like scd0
[08:39] <majnoon> in 2.16.7 right now
[08:39] <Maxdamantus> Away.
[08:39] <majnoon> newest kernel is 2.16.20 me think
[08:39] <majnoon> tried older kernel to see if it would work (answer is NO)
[08:40] <raylu> majnoon, what Maxdamantus is right
[08:42] <majnoon> i TRIED k3b (in both kernels) and cdrecord (in both kernels) get SAME problem
[08:43] <majnoon> it IS scd0 in latest and hdc in 2.6.17
[08:43] <raylu> o.0 wtfz
[08:43] <raylu> it's just cdrom linked to cdrom0 for me
[08:44] <majnoon> it an ide drive
[08:45] <raylu> what's the mount time?
[08:45] <raylu> *type?
[08:45] <majnoon> it no mount blank cdroms
[08:49] <Mena> Is that possible lost-found files would be corrupted while running widows
[08:50] <majnoon> raylu: i mounted a dvd ok
[08:51] <majnoon> from mtab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom udf ro 0
[08:51] <majnoon> from mtab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom udf ro 0 0
[08:52] <majnoon> raylu: you awake ??
[08:52] <strav> he there. I just removed a max of gnome packages before installing kubuntu and now kde menus are mostly empty (still have run command and such), I tried removing my .kde, .config, updating the menus with update-menus or with kmenuedit none of these works... beside, my /etc/xdg/ menus is not empty... any ideas on how can I resolve this?
[08:54] <strav> hmm. kcontrol is also empty now.
[08:54] <Mena> hmm ho that could be
[08:54] <Mena> how*
[08:56] <bobstro> strav:  you might try reinstalling kde-dektop?
[08:56] <strav> Mena: I removed too much stuff to be shure of this. Anyhow, I tought there were a quick way to restore most's of kde's settings.
[08:57] <strav> bobstro, yes, I was playing with dpkg-reconfigure just now.
[08:57] <Mena> strav, hmm ok
[08:58] <bobstro> strav:  worst-case, i suppose you could uninstall, then reinstall it
[08:58] <strav> bobstro, I'll see what it can do...
[08:58] <Mena> there is a command wich allow you to install all this
[08:58] <strav> brb
[08:59] <Mena> but i cant remeber it
[08:59] <Mena> ok
[08:59] <bobstro> apt-get install kde-desktop perhap?
[08:59] <Mena> no anothr one
[08:59] <Mena> another*
[08:59] <Mena> and they were 3 too
[08:59] <Mena> likae sudo apt-get install app app app
[09:00] <Mena> any hope if he can find a way
[09:00] <lespea> sorry I'm late... what're you trying to install?
[09:01] <Mena> lespea, there is someone would to install kcontorl setting menus and a lot of stuffs
[09:01] <Mena> strav,
[09:02] <Mena> bec as i guess he installed kubuntu on ubuntu
[09:02] <lespea> did you manually upgrade from gnome or something?
[09:02] <Mena> but he removed a lot of settings
[09:02] <lespea> ah
[09:02] <Mena> lespea, any way i was sying there is a command allow you to install all kubuntu things
[09:03] <Mena> beside sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop (here more two)
[09:03] <strav> Mena, I first installed kde meta-package and had this menu problem then installed kubuntu thinking it would be cleaner...
[09:03] <Mena> but i cant get it
[09:03] <lespea> hmm
[09:03] <lespea> and you did sudo aptitude install kde-desktop?
[09:04] <Mena> strav, maybe lespea would help you i really dont know :)
[09:04] <lespea> i've never went from gnome -> kde
[09:04] <lespea> just guessing
[09:04] <lespea> :O
[09:04] <Mena> lespea, is that possible that lost+found would be corrupted while running widows
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato is probably the man to answer all KDE questions
[09:05] <Mena> yes but i guess he is away now
[09:05] <Mena> maybe
[09:05] <lespea> hmm.... dunno :(
[09:05] <lespea> sry
[09:05] <Mena> no prob
[09:05] <Mena> Admiral_Chicago, is that possible :)
[09:06] <Mena> :D
[09:06] <strav> I'm logging out... thanks anyways.
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i'm exaggerating.
[09:06] <Jucato> Mena: you mean Alt+F2, "kcontrol"?
[09:06] <Jucato> :P
[09:06] <Mena> Jucato, ehehhe ok
[09:06] <Mena> Good Morning or>>>....
[09:07] <chx> I have only one CPU with a Core Duo CPU. I believe that's not good.
[09:07] <Jucato> Mena: what are you trying to do again? sorry don't wanna scroll up too much. :D
[09:07] <Mena> Jucato, no its not me
[09:07] <Jucato> oh whowas it?
[09:07] <bobstro> chx:  which kernel did you boot? did you have more than one?
[09:07] <Mena> Jucato, its strav
[09:07] <Mena> but he is out now
[09:07] <chx> Linux bean 2.6.20-15-386 #2 Sun Apr 15 07:34:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:07] <chx> uname -a
[09:08] <Jucato> aw, he left...
[09:08] <Jucato> heheh
[09:08] <Mena> Jucato, but i also have a question
[09:08] <bobstro> chx:  was there a generic in the list when you booted?
[09:08] <Mena> Jucato, is that possible that Lost+Found Files would be  corrupted while running widows
[09:08] <bobstro> chx:  i got both on my laptop (also duo). defaulted to i386 (single)
[09:08] <Mena> Jucato, wait till this question :D
[09:08] <chx> bobstro: ah, 386 is single, generic is SMP?
[09:08] <chx> bobstro: good.
[09:09] <bobstro> Mena:  are you mounting ext3 under windows?
[09:09] <bobstro> chx:  yeah, cat /proc/cpuinfo to verify.
[09:09] <Mena> yes
[09:09] <Jucato> Mena: hm... not really sure what you mean? the Lost & Found menu entries?
[09:09] <Mena> no the Lost+files located on the ext3 partitions
[09:09] <bobstro> Mena:  if windows messes up the filesystem, entries will be CREATED under lost & found when fsck is run.
[09:09] <Jucato> Mena: ah.. bobstro seems to know
[09:09] <bobstro> Mena:  are you by any chance suspending, then booting into windows?
[09:10] <Mena> bobstro, n on o
[09:10] <chx> bobstro: problem. E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-general
[09:10] <chx> bobstro: I have 386 because I need the nvidia module and there is no -general for that
[09:10] <bobstro> chx:  general or generic?
[09:10] <Mena> but i was running a cleannig app for bec you know and i just found it was searching on lost+found files
[09:10] <chx> BOTHER!
[09:10] <Mena> so
[09:10] <chx> bobstro: thanks.
[09:10] <Jucato> chx: you don't need -386 if you need nvidia
[09:10] <chx> of course, of course
[09:11] <Mena> bobstro, thanks any way :)
[09:11] <bobstro> Mena:  ah, a windows disk cleaning app?
[09:11] <Mena> yes
[09:11] <chx> finally, finally, can't wait to watch GitS in 1280x720 :)
[09:11] <Mena> something like that
[09:11] <bobstro> Mena:  if it doesn't know about ext3, it might "fix" it (badly)
[09:12] <chx> how do I set the default in grub/menu.lst ?
[09:12] <bobstro> Mena:  i've been doing exactly that, but have decided to use ntfs-3g instead now due to windows causing problems on my ext3 partition.
[09:12] <bobstro> chx:  it may remember your last, but you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst too.
[09:12] <Mena> bobstrom , hmmm ok
[09:13] <Mena> bobstrom , but i also stopped it (while searching) befor contineu
[09:13] <bobstro> chx:  there may be a pretty gui for that, but i don't know of one.
[09:13] <bobstro> Mena:  disk utilities are bad news if they try to operate on filesystems incorrectly.
[09:13] <Mena> bobstro, yeah
[09:13] <bobstro> Mena:  if you have entries in lost & found, those are "stranded" files.
[09:14] <bobstro> Mena:  the directory info has been lost, but fsck found the actual files.
[09:14] <bobstro> Mena:  are there many under there?
[09:14] <fdoving> chx: the first in the list is the default by default. 'default 0' sets that. set that to 1, 2 3 4 5 etc. makes the instance number X the default. reading from the top and down of menu.lst.
[09:14] <Mena> bobstro, you mean ext3
[09:14] <Mena> bobstro, or
[09:14] <Mena> sec plz
[09:15] <chx> fdoving: thanks.
[09:15] <lennin001> please, need a Good program to edit videos from diferent type videos and copilate on a dvd
[09:15] <lennin001> tnks
[09:15] <bobstro> copulate on a dvd?
[09:15] <lennin001> no
[09:16] <Mena> bobstro, i didnt get you are there many under there?
[09:16] <bobstro> Mena:  many files under lost & found?
[09:16] <lennin001> to edit my videos from different type's and burn on a dvd
[09:16] <Mena> bobstro, ohhh no i dont know now bec i had to remove xp
[09:16] <lennin001> I'm sorry for my English
[09:17] <bobstro> lennin001:  your english is fine.
[09:17] <Mena> bobstro, befor that there were yes i as i guess
[09:17] <lennin001> tnks
[09:17] <bobstro> Mena:  those were the recovered files that it found. sort of like .chk files on dos. you might be able to salvage those.
[09:18] <rizoma> hi someone know why if i try to install ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools system cant find that package?
[09:18] <Aaronfromchina> hi. :)
[09:19] <Mena> bobstro, hmmm ok
[09:19] <bobstro> rizoma:  the menu item or the installer fails?
[09:19] <edyfarm> hi all
[09:19] <lennin001> I have instaled the Kino, but just acept a Vid files no AVI or any other video format
[09:19] <lennin001> please help me
[09:19] <rizoma> in the console it tell me cannot find ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools
[09:20] <bobstro> lennin001:  i don't do video myself, but you might try the forums.
[09:20] <edyfarm> anyone ever use umax astra 3400 scanner??
[09:20] <edyfarm> i mean in ubuntu
[09:20] <lennin001> that's like's a live forum no?
[09:21] <bobstro> lennin001:  not live, but a LOT of info is archived there. you can search, find a lot of good answers if nobody here can help you right away.
[09:21] <Aaronfromchina> does anyone know that how to find a full-length sony in Last.FM?
[09:22] <rizoma> bob i type sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools  then it read packages create a dependecy tree then it cant find nautilus tool
[09:22] <Aaronfromchina> does anyone know that how to find a full-length song in Last.FM? :)
[09:22] <fdoving> rizoma: the package doesn't exist.
[09:22] <fdoving> Aaronfromchina: no, it has nothing to do with kubuntu support anyway.
[09:22] <lennin001> ok
[09:22] <Aaronfromchina> fdoving: :)
[09:23] <Aaronfromchina> fdoving: all right. :)
[09:23] <rizoma> fdoving: i've added the repository for it
[09:23] <Mena> bobstro, Thanks :)
[09:23] <fdoving> rizoma: did you run 'sudo aptitude update' or similar?
[09:23] <Mena> bobstro, Is there a way to locate the size of the lost+foud files
[09:23] <lennin001> I'm sorry for the tip, that's my final way, so may have a bad look
[09:23] <lennin001> bye
[09:24] <Mena> bobstro, its normally about 400 mb right ?
[09:24] <chx> Oh yes! Oh yes!
[09:24] <chx> So much better.
[09:24] <chx> :)
[09:24] <bobstro> Mena:  it depends what was lost (and found)
[09:24] <rizoma> fdoving: i've tried apt-get update but it tells me a file is locked what i can do?
[09:24] <Mena> bobstro, hmm ok
[09:24] <fdoving> rizoma: do you have adept or some other package manager running?
[09:25] <rizoma> no
[09:25] <fdoving> !adeptfix | rizoma
[09:25] <rizoma> can i open a something to see task in use?
[09:25] <ubotu> rizoma: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:25] <fdoving> rizoma: try that.
[09:25] <rizoma> i try
[09:25] <chx> this is interesting, if I set the CPU speed down to 1GHz it's just not fast enough. 1.66GHz buys me enough juice, though.
[09:25] <Mena> bobstro, I'm getting tired with this i think i will use ntfs in the future :D
[09:26] <Mena> heheh :)
[09:26] <bobstro> Mena:  yeah, windows is mean to ext3.
[09:26] <rizoma> it tells me /var/lib/apt/lists/lock locked
[09:27] <[Flux] > whats up guys
[09:27] <[Flux] > rizoma open up your process manager
[09:28] <[Flux] > look for adept or some apt program running
[09:28] <[Flux] > adept notifier is running, dont shut that off
[09:28] <[Flux] > as you need it to get security update notifications
[09:29] <[Flux] > but any other apt/adept program is causing your problem
[09:29] <Mena> rizoma,maybe simply you can do this killall adept_manager or just close the terminal and open it again and try
[09:29] <[Flux] > or reboot your pc
[09:29] <[Flux] > lol
[09:29] <rizoma> ghghgh
[09:30] <Mena> yeah but this is not a slotution on linux you should get the problem and through it away :)
[09:30] <rizoma> no process running
[09:30] <fdoving> rizoma: if you run the command ubotu  told you to you will be asked if you want to kill the process lockin gthe package database.
[09:30] <[Flux] > im off to play ufo:ai
[09:31] <[Flux] > have fun guys
[09:31] <rizoma> f
[09:31] <rizoma> fdoving: repeat please
[09:31] <fdoving> !adeptfix | rizoma
[09:31] <ubotu> rizoma: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:32] <basse> hi, i have a strange little problem. my network works for things like ssh, apt-get etc just fine.. and even lynx from commandline seems to work..
[09:32] <basse> but for somereason konqueror doesnt access any webpages.
[09:32] <rizoma> it doesnt work
[09:32] <rizoma> :
[09:32] <basse> ;)
[09:32] <fdoving> basse: you have knetworkmanager running, but it's not connected, that tricks KDE into thinking you're not connected to any network. close knetworkmanager and try again.
[09:32] <chx> is there an easily installable package which would let me change CPU freqs from KDE ? http://freshmeat.net/projects/kcpufreq/ this does not seem to be active or having a deb
[09:32] <basse> ooh
[09:33] <basse> fdoving: wohoo! ;) what is knetworkmanager
[09:33] <_ubuntu> hi
[09:33] <majnoon> anyone else having trouble burning cdroms after upgrade ??
[09:33] <basse> fdoving: and should that be configured somehow then.. ?  thanks for the quick help! my son is pleased.
[09:33] <chx> ahhhh http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33257  :)
[09:33] <fdoving> basse: the little networkmanager sitting in your systray in the lower right corner, next to the clock. one of those small icons. white with some red X or something.
[09:34] <basse> fdoving: yep, i closed the app. konqueror works now.
[09:35] <rizoma> why it's a big problem to write in a ntfs partition??? :
[09:35] <arabul> is there anyone know turkish
[09:35] <fdoving> basse: if you don't use it you can configure it to not autostart with you kde session. i guess you need to restart it, right-click on the icon -> configure autostart.. or similar. you can also just try to logout and login without it running. KDE should pick that up and save your session wihtout it running.
[09:35] <arabul> turkish?
[09:36] <Alarm> i know just hindi
[09:36] <Alarm> and a bit of mongolese
[09:36] <arabul> abicim imdi bana byk harf muhabbeti yapmican dimi?
[09:36] <arabul> :D
[09:37] <Alarm> arabul,  dont u think instead of hoping someone to know turkish , u to learn english ?
[09:37] <Jucato> !tr
[09:37] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:37] <arabul>  know english
[09:37] <arabul> but you know my kubuntu system is in turkish
[09:37] <arabul> and  have to write the error in english
[09:38] <arabul> sorry in turkish  mean
[09:38] <Alarm> whats the error about
[09:38] <britt> what recommendation would everybody have for measuring temperature on a CPU?
[09:38] <arabul> it say one program of the system collapsed
[09:39] <Alarm> Jucato,  finally it wasnt what i told u on cedega, it had to do with nvidia. and yes some drivers can well installed or not or not well configured
[09:39] <Mena> britt, install lm-sensors
[09:39] <arabul> alarm..?
[09:39] <Alarm> had to change this line: Option          "NvAGP"       "1" to "2" and create a nvidia file in the modprobe.d with some options in it
[09:40] <Alarm> goodmorning btw jucato :)
[09:40] <Alarm> arabul,  and whats so tragical ?
[09:40] <Jucato> hi Alarm
[09:40] <Alarm> reopen it
[09:40] <rizoma> someone know other way to get usb ntfs storage works?
[09:40] <britt> Mena: how would i run this?
[09:40] <arabul>  cant find wich program had collapsed
[09:40] <Alarm> usb ntfs storage ? that reminds me someone ! :)
[09:40] <britt> does it run as a docked app or ??
[09:41] <rizoma> Alarm: what you mean?
[09:41] <Alarm> have the same problem several days now
[09:42] <arabul> yeah
[09:43] <arabul> alarm thank you but  think you cant on not helm me....
[09:43] <arabul> on ... or*
[09:43] <Alarm> arabul,  if u would give me even less invofmation maybe things could be better :)
[09:44] <Alarm> i am not a miracle or a wizard to imagine in my mind whats ur problem
[09:44] <Alarm> in ur case anyway, i would leave it like that if i wouldnt see any change in my system and would restart and see if its ok then
[09:46] <arabul>  told you that when  start my pc an error occurs says" one of the program collapsed" but doesnt show the prolem when  click
[09:47] <rizoma> Alarm: http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/howto.html look at point 4
[09:47] <arabul>  think it doesnt effect the  system too much
[09:48] <rizoma> Alarm: look if you can install that script
[09:48] <arabul> but the warning whenever  started disturbs mi
[09:49] <arabul> alarm where are you from?
[09:49] <Alarm> arabul,  check at the files /var/log/user.log , syslog and check if there is an error there
[09:49] <Alarm> rizoma,  i will bookmark it , i got to go unfortunatelly
[09:50] <arabul>  looked there yesterday there vas error but today  cant see the yesterday's messages
[09:50] <Alarm> reboot and u will see the todays message if u say that it appears everytime
[09:50] <rizoma> bye Alarm!
[09:51] <Alarm> rizoma,  thank you for ur search . bye
[09:51] <arabul> there is an error :May  7 09:43:23 arabul kdm_greet[5743] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[09:51] <rizoma> no one here can mount usb ntfs disks???
[09:52] <arabul> can it be related to it
[09:52] <Mena_> britt, install ksensors
[09:52] <Mena_> britt, but do you know
[09:52] <arabul> ?
[09:52] <arabul> alarm, May  7 09:43:23 arabul kdm_greet[5743] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[09:53] <Mena_> britt, i siuggest that you install superkarmaba (sudo apt-get install suprkaramba) and then go here kde-look.org and use one of those theme it will display your pz heath stautes and alot of cool things
[09:54] <Mena_> britt, superkaramba themes located under (karamba) on kde-look.org
[09:54] <arabul> alarm are you there....?
[09:54] <Mena_> britt, Have fun ! :)
[09:54] <britt> :)
[09:54] <Mena_> britt, hey also
[09:54] <arabul> alarm,...thank you for trying for help....
[09:55] <arabul> i m leaving now
[09:55] <Maxdamantus> Odd..
[09:56] <Mena_> britt, to keep sure your pc heath stautes display right install those ( lm-sensors and hddtemp (for harddisk temp and smartmontools )
[09:56] <Maxdamantus> It treats any hdd as sd* .. But I'm running it on a vm atm, and it's hd*
[09:57] <britt> ah
[09:57] <britt> cool
[09:57] <Mena_> britt, and also if you used superkarmba themes you maybe see the TXT files included with the themes to know what you need
[09:57] <rizoma> As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing support
[09:57] <rizoma> through a very experimental NTFS FUSE module. Using this seems to work but
[09:57] <rizoma> is NOT recommended. Do you want to use this? [no] 
[09:57] <rizoma> yes or no?
[09:57] <Maxdamantus> Why not use ntfs-3g?
[09:57] <Maxdamantus> Apparently it's better.
[09:58] <rizoma> i cant handle usb ntfs
[09:58] <Maxdamantus> I don't have a proper installation of Windows though, so no ntfs for me. :)
[09:58] <Maxdamantus> Only got Windows on a vm.
[09:58] <Maxdamantus> Why do you have ntfs on a usb?
[09:59] <rizoma> it's  big backup and i work on 3d studio in windows for work
[09:59] <Maxdamantus> But why do you have an ntfs usb?
[09:59] <Maxdamantus> Back everything up off it and reformat to fat32 or something.
[10:00] <Maxdamantus> Unless you have files bigger than 4gb.
[10:00] <majnoon> ok max booted into LATEST kernel and same problem
[10:00] <rizoma> but why it's so difficult handle ntfs
[10:00] <rizoma> :|
[10:01] <Maxdamantus> Because it's designed by Microsoft.
[10:01] <Maxdamantus> And Microsoft is 100% non-open source
[10:01] <rizoma> sadness
[10:01] <Angel-SL> hello, I just noticed a error in the kubuntu leaflet
[10:01] <Maxdamantus> ntfs-3g uses the ntoskrnl.exe though.
[10:01] <Maxdamantus> So that's the most compatible atm.
[10:02] <Angel-SL> Maxdamantus: it does? i used it without that before
[10:02] <Maxdamantus> Yes, it does.. I think.
[10:02] <Maxdamantus> It emulates it with Wine as far as I know.
[10:02] <Angel-SL> without ntoskrnl.exe
[10:02] <Angel-SL> i used it without wine!
[10:02] <Angel-SL> on a clean live cd, my friend.
[10:02] <Maxdamantus> Modified wine..
[10:02] <Maxdamantus> Which has it on there.
[10:03] <Angel-SL> :o
[10:03] <Mena_> Thanks .....Bye
[10:03] <Maxdamantus> Do you have ntfs-3g installed?
[10:03] <majnoon> Maxdamantus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19588/
[10:03] <Maxdamantus> Try "slocate ntoskrnl.exe" to see if it finds anything.
[10:05] <aftertaf> any know pboblem with feisty and the 2.6.20.15 kernel?
[10:05] <majnoon> 0    dev='/dev/sr0'   rwrwrw :  'LITE-ON'  'COMBO SOHC-5232K'
[10:05] <Maxdamantus> majnoon, I don't think sr0 should be a cd-rom device.
[10:05] <aftertaf> I can't boot to it (like when beta, with the SATA driver making it all hang.)
[10:05] <Maxdamantus> When I try, it says:
[10:05] <Maxdamantus> Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[10:06] <Maxdamantus> But I can see that my device is scd0
[10:06] <Maxdamantus> /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,user=maxdamantus)
[10:06] <aftertaf> and i cant get NVIDIA driver installed...... on 20.13 kernel, headers missing...
[10:06] <Maxdamantus> Never tried cdrecord before.
[10:06] <majnoon> that what i get from cdrecord scanbus
[10:06] <Maxdamantus> And not sure what sr0 is meant to be.
[10:06] <crimsun> -13- is way too old.  7.04 doesn't ship with -13-, it ships with -15-.
[10:07] <majnoon> let me see something
[10:07] <crimsun> 2.6.20-15.27.
[10:07] <Maxdamantus> Try using k3b to write something.
[10:07] <aftertaf> yeah, but.
[10:07] <aftertaf> .15 doesnt boot.... like with the earlier versions.... only .13 is booting
[10:08] <majnoon> from dmesg:
[10:08] <majnoon> [   31.335079]  sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/52x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[10:08] <aftertaf> freezing on ata like before.........
[10:10] <majnoon> k3b says no media present
[10:10] <Maxdamantus> Not sure then.
[10:11] <aftertaf> is anyone else having problems with the official latest feisty kernel not booting?
[10:11] <epimeth> ack... I forgot how to set the brightness of my screen?  its a laptop....
[10:14] <epimeth> belay that question... found it :-)
[10:16] <ernie> aftertaf I had just booted my system up and got a busybox prompt - rebooted again and it came up normally - very weird - I have a Raid1 SATA Feisty setup
[10:17] <ubuntu_> hey turd
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ;p;\
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ;;p;p
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ;p;;
[10:17] <ubuntu_> lolll
[10:17] <crimsun> will you please stop troll...
[10:17] <crimsun> well, ok.
[10:17] <crimsun> I guess silence is indeed golden.
[10:18] <epimeth> naw... its more yellow-bronzey
[10:19] <A_A> how do i get java applets to work in firefox ?
[10:19] <A_A> i have downloaded the appropriate software
[10:19] <A_A> just cant install it
[10:21] <NtfsUsbAgony> hi
[10:21] <aftertaf> well i just cant boot (tm) with new kernel
[10:21] <NtfsUsbAgony> =)
[10:21] <Maxdamantus> A_A: Try "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts"
[10:21] <Maxdamantus> As long as you're using x86
[10:22] <tdn> As default an 5% of an ext3 file system is reserved for root. How do I change this to 0% when the filesystem already is created and contain data that I do not want to loose? Can I use tune2fs?
[10:22] <A_A> ya
[10:22] <A_A> its installing
[10:22] <Maxdamantus> Ok.
[10:23] <A_A> ta*
[10:24] <Maxdamantus> tdn, what do you mean?
[10:25] <tdn> Maxdamantus, which part do you not understand?
[10:25] <Maxdamantus> Everything.
[10:26] <Maxdamantus> How can you reserve part of an ext3 fs for root?
[10:32] <tapas> how can i make dns servers i add via the network manager permanent?
[10:33] <flaccid_> tapas: is this for a dynamic or static profile?
[10:33] <tapas> i use dhcp...
[10:33] <tapas> flaccid_: well, my router provides dns services
[10:33] <tapas> but it has problems with konqueror's massive dns lookup orgies
[10:33] <tapas> [or so i read] 
[10:33] <flaccid_> i find that hard to believe
[10:34] <tapas> fact is that out of 5 requests one dns lookup fails when it goes to the router
[10:34] <tapas> when i enter the dns addresses locally to resolv.conf it works like a charm
[10:34] <flaccid_> ah thats a router issue not the dns
[10:34] <flaccid_> your router is failing dns relay
[10:34] <flaccid_> quite a common thing
[10:34] <flaccid_> unless you are getting packet loss
[10:35] <tapas> anyways, a workaround is to add the nameservers locally..  but the change doesn't seem to be permanent..
[10:35] <flaccid_> yes thats because of dhcp
[10:35] <flaccid_> and dhcp adds the servers locally anyway
[10:35] <flaccid_> thats not a solution
[10:35] <tapas> yes dhcp adds a single nameserver ;) 192.168.1.1 :)
[10:35] <tapas> [which is the router address] 
[10:35] <flaccid_> solution is to set up a server with bind or get your router to give the ISP dns server addresses or go static and set them in your resolv.conf manualy
[10:36] <flaccid_> yes
[10:36] <flaccid_> and the dns relay fails
[10:36] <flaccid_> coz the router sux
[10:36] <tapas> yes
[10:36] <flaccid_> what brand is it?
[10:36] <tapas> net-g-g-g-gear
[10:36] <tapas> ;)
[10:36] <flaccid_> yep
[10:36] <flaccid_> i've had that before on netgear
[10:36] <slougi> i had a similar issue too
[10:36] <flaccid_> i don't know why they fail but they do. netcomm is common for this as well
[10:37] <slougi> i just brute-force override resolv.conf
[10:37] <flaccid_> but if you dhcp, that will be overwritten on each renew...
[10:37] <slougi> works well enough for now
[10:37] <tapas> which is what i'm trying to do, too.. i just wonder what's the correct way.. i suppose using the ifup script for that would work
[10:37] <slougi> yes, note brute-force ;) cron job runs every minute to overwrite it... couldn't be bothered to fix it in any better way
[10:38] <flaccid_> like i said
[10:38] <flaccid_> the correct way:
[10:38] <tapas> yes i read you
 solution is to set up a server with bind or get your router to give the ISP dns server addresses or go static and set them in your resolv.conf manualy
[10:38] <slougi> none of those solutions is very good though
[10:38] <slougi> except the second
[10:39] <flaccid_> basically, you can't change the DNS server setting for dhcp on your router, so you can't use the DHCP on the router
[10:39] <flaccid_> yeah but you wont be able to change the dns value given by the router dhcp server
[10:39] <tapas> i think i read somewhere that one can tell dhcp not to overwrite resolv.conf.. checking
[10:39] <flaccid_> so solution is either your own dns server which relays from isp, or go static
[10:40] <aftertaf> oh well.... when you cant fix it, work around it with a new set of problems :)
[10:41] <tapas> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7239
[10:41] <tapas> that looks good, too
[10:41] <flaccid_> hehe, yeah but there is no caveat with going static in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[10:42] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. On a trading site I use, some people say that systems other than Windows 2000 and XP have problems with 120gb+ HDDs.
[10:42] <Maxdamantus> Is that the case with Ubuntu? :S
[10:42] <fdoving> Maxdamantus: no. not at all.
[10:42] <flaccid_> tapas: thats a nasty hack and doesn't apply to you. you do not run a dns server on localhost
[10:42] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[10:43] <flaccid_> Maxdamantus: no
[10:43] <flaccid_> tapas: actually the second guys post was the right one. supersede domain-name-servers <dns1-ip>, <dns2-ip>;
[10:44] <fdoving> tapas: if you're going to use something like that i'd recommend post 2.
[10:44] <tapas> yeah
[10:44] <flaccid_> that arnie guy is quite crap
[10:44] <flaccid_> post 2?
[10:44] <flaccid_> oh yeah
[10:44] <flaccid_> we agree
[10:44] <epimeth> anybody know how to show more fields than just "Name" and "Email" in the contacts list of Kontact ?
[10:44] <fdoving> i use something much cooler, i have a local caching dns, pdnsd, and resolvconf. i don't have to do antyhing but install those pakcages and i'm good to go. they talk to each other and figure everything out.
[10:45] <tapas> i tried installing a local dns caching server, but just installing the package didn't suffice..
[10:45] <tapas> i was too tired to read the docs then thoguh ;)
[10:45] <flaccid_> fdoving: all you need is dhclient and a caching dns server on the lan, not sure why you need pdnsd and resolvconf
[10:45] <flaccid_> !bind > tapas
[10:46] <fdoving> flaccid_: i don't need them, i want them. resolvconf because it's cool and handy, and pdnsd because it makes browsing faster when i'm mobile on slow connections. no need to shut it down when i'm on good connections either.
[10:47] <tapas> !bind > flaccid_
[10:47] <flaccid_> !dns
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <flaccid_> crazy
[10:47] <flaccid_> !info bind
[10:47] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.7-1 (feisty), package size 966 kB, installed size 2156 kB
[10:47] <flaccid_> i thought there was a guide somewhere
[10:47] <fdoving> i guess you want bind9.
[10:47] <fdoving> there is a simple guide somewhere on the wiki.
[10:47] <flaccid_> fdoving: ok if you say so :)
[10:47] <tapas> isn't bind a fully fledged dns server?
[10:47] <fdoving> yes.
[10:48] <flaccid_> tapas: yes it is, but its simple to config
[10:48] <fdoving> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[10:48] <tapas> flaccid_: ok, i see
[10:48] <fdoving> for caching i'd recommend pdnsd. it's cool .)
[10:48] <flaccid_> you don't need it
[10:49] <flaccid_> :p
[10:49] <fdoving> no, you don't need a caching nameserver.
[10:49] <tapas> so when i got bind running locally i override dhcp's name server thing with "localhost"?
[10:50] <flaccid_> bind can be a caching nameserver anyay
[10:50] <fdoving> yeah, but it caches to memory only.
[10:50] <tapas> i don't see how that fixes the problem though if bind asks the router anyways.. [and caching aside] 
[10:50] <flaccid_> tapas: nameserver 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:51] <tapas> isn't it just one more level of indirection?
[10:51] <flaccid_> fdoving: which is fine :)
[10:51] <flaccid_> tapas: no you set it up so that it relays from the ISP dns servers directly, not your router
[10:51] <flaccid_> no it skips your router
[10:52] <tapas> flaccid_: ah well, then i can also just change resolv.conf directly and don't have the hassle of settig up bind
[10:52] <tapas> [which seems to hang in its init script anyways] 
[10:52] <flaccid_> yes thats what i said in the first place :)
[10:52] <flaccid_> but obviously you need to set it static in /etc/network/interfaces and/or disable dhcp server on the router
[10:53] <tapas> nah, i'll just override the dns entries by way of post 2..
[10:54] <flaccid_> indeed
[10:54] <tapas> and then i hope that my isp never changes its nameserver ip's
[10:54] <flaccid_> i do recommend setting up bind for fun and also future knowledge
[10:54] <tapas> because my router doesn't allow the forwarding of the ip's it gets via dhcp
[10:54] <flaccid_> it shouldn't.
[10:55] <tapas> erm, modulo the idiot ' ;)
[10:55] <tapas> IPs :)
[10:55] <flaccid_> if its netgear, it has portforwarding and static routers, so it can..
[10:55] <praecox> hey guys
[10:55] <praecox> I've got Kubuntu Feisty. is there any way to get Beryl working on it as it does on Ubuntu Feisty?
[10:56] <flaccid_> !beryl
[10:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:56] <flaccid_> goto the effects chan
[10:56] <praecox> all right.
[10:56] <praecox> thanks.
[10:56] <flaccid_> np
[10:56] <tapas> ok, thanks for your help guys :)
[10:57] <flaccid_> np
[11:03] <jamie> greetings
[11:04] <jamie> looking for help with wifi (ipw3945) which has broken after an update, anyone free and willing?
[11:04] <Mighty_Pooh> Hey folks what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu ?
[11:05] <Jucato> !kubuntu
[11:05] <tapas> http://kubuntu.org/
[11:05] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:05] <Jucato> Mighty_Pooh: ^^^
[11:05] <Mighty_Pooh> hehe ok :9 thx
[11:05] <Jucato> the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is teh difference between KDE and GNOME :)
[11:05] <tapas> Mighty_Pooh: you can still install gnome on kubuntu though
[11:05] <Mighty_Pooh> guess kubuntu is what im gonna try.
[11:06] <Mighty_Pooh> i dont like gnome :)
[11:06] <Mighty_Pooh> i hoped it was only the kde that was the difference
[11:06] <tapas> it's basically jut a difference in preselected packages
[11:06] <Jucato> and the preselected packages are determined by the choice of KDE over GNOME :)
[11:06] <tapas> :)
[11:06] <Jucato> but the underlying packages are similar
[11:07] <Mighty_Pooh> k :) .. Im using gentoo atm. but i must say i have serius problems with cedega and open gl.. i hope kubuntu can help me make it alot easyer.
[11:07] <tapas> i wonder when texlive gets updated to the 2007 version
[11:11] <jcolagro> Hi all,
[11:11] <Gabz> sreaching a the text in a pdf can you do it in kde ?
[11:11] <tapas> Gabz: kpdf can do it yeah
[11:11] <Jucato> Gabz: yes. with kpdf
[11:11] <jcolagro> there is some one who explain me why I am not able to set up the correct display with feisty fawn and I had no problem at all with kubuntu 6.10
[11:12] <jcolagro> ?
[11:12] <Gabz> so i have to open the pdf to do it.... i want to search 20 pdf files for a key word...
[11:12] <tapas> jcolagro: not without more information
[11:12] <jcolagro> I have an ATI mobility 128 as
[11:12] <jcolagro> vido card
[11:12] <jcolagro> sorry ..
[11:13] <jcolagro> I am not able to set up correctly my video card
[11:13] <jcolagro> even if I choose the right driver
[11:13] <jcolagro> I have a DELL inspiron 400
[11:13] <jcolagro> 0
[11:13] <jcolagro> 4000
[11:13] <jcolagro> sorry
[11:13] <tapas> do you get any error messages?
[11:13] <tapas> have alook in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:14] <tapas> [and search for teh string "EE"] 
[11:14] <jcolagro> nop .. the screen ..when I leave the installation doing every thing..
[11:14] <jcolagro> is splitted in 3 region
[11:14] <jcolagro> if I choose .. the correct driver ..
[11:14] <jcolagro> the screen is black
[11:15] <jcolagro> I am able to do .. is choosing the installation in safe mode ..
[11:15] <jcolagro> and then ... .I have a small squarre as display
[11:15] <jcolagro> the display is correct .. but don't have the screen size
[11:16] <tapas> sounds like the wrong resolution set in xorg.conf
[11:16] <jcolagro> in safe mode .. it is right .. the resolution is 800 x 600
[11:16] <jcolagro> instead of 1400 x 1050
[11:17] <jcolagro> but as soon as I choose the right driver and the right size ...
[11:17] <tapas> sorry, i can't really help. you might also check #linuxhelp
[11:17] <jcolagro> the screen is black
[11:17] <jcolagro> ok thanks
[11:39] <alex[slx] > hey there, I was just wondering what the name of the laptop management software kubuntu uses is
[11:39] <alex[slx] > that is, dynamic cpu throttling etc
[11:41] <Jucato> guidance-power-manager
[11:41] <alex[slx] > cool
[11:41] <alex[slx] > thanks
[11:41] <Jucato> (I think)
[11:41] <Jucato> !info guidance-power-manager
[11:41] <ubotu> Package guidance-power-manager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:41] <Jucato> bah... forgot the package name
[11:41] <Jucato> ah
[11:41] <Jucato> !info kde-guidance-powermanager
[11:41] <ubotu> kde-guidance-powermanager: HAL based Power Manager Applet. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 62 kB, installed size 328 kB
[11:42] <alex[slx] > ok
[11:43] <alex[slx] > just couldn't remember the name
[11:43] <alex[slx] >  / didn't know the name
[11:43] <roller> hello
[11:43] <roller> how i can play mp3 in amarok??
[11:43] <majnoon> anyone else having trouble burning cdroms after upgrade to feisty ??
[11:44] <alex[slx] > roller: depends which engine you are using
[11:44] <ttuuxxx>  does anyone have a spare business requirement document for a website?
[11:44] <roller> he didn't want download mp3 support
[11:44] <Jucato> roller: yes you can, but you need to download the codec for mp3's
[11:45] <roller> where and how?
[11:45] <roller> adept manager said error
[11:45] <Jucato> roller: just install the package "libxine-extracodecs"
[11:45] <Jucato> roller: from Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs
[11:46] <roller> he said BrEAK INSTALL
[11:46] <roller> WHEN IM REQUEST INSTALL
[11:47] <Jucato> please don't use caps
[11:47] <roller> sorry
[11:48] <Jucato> roller: ok, use this command in Konsole: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:48] <Jucato> (close Adept first)
[11:49] <roller> E:        /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:49] <roller> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:49] <tapas> roller: well, is another process using it?
[11:50] <tapas> [i.e. some graphical package manager] 
[11:50] <roller> no
[11:50] <roller> restart computer?
[11:50] <ernie> try sudo before the command
[11:51] <tapas> well, restatring the computer might help
[11:51] <tapas> but:
[11:51] <tapas> there is a process hholding the lock
[11:51] <roller> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[11:51] <roller> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[11:51] <roller>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[11:51] <tapas> finish that process and you should be fine
[11:51] <roller> ok please be online after i restart copmputer ok?
[11:52] <tapas> no, we all run away now
[11:52] <tapas> ;)
[11:52] <roller> ok
[11:52] <roller> bye
[11:54] <NiceGuyUK> Greetings.  Anyone able to suggest a home-design/planning app for Kubuntu?
[11:59] <roller> hello i cant install extra codecs for mp3
[11:59] <roller> comp said error
[11:59] <roller> help
[12:00] <Eruantalon> What error?
[12:02] <roller> aa :some updates could not install becouse error in process installation
[12:08] <josf> Hi, i'm helping my grandpa getting a computer. I'd like some help deciding if Windows or KDE is better for him
[12:09] <josf> My idea is that with KDE, I can remove all unnecessary icons etc, but on the other hand, more relatives can help him with Windows
[12:22] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:23] <BluesKaj> how does one delete directory that was mistakenly created ...i't's empty but it's interfereng with a text file that I should have created instead
[12:24] <BluesKaj> with the same filename of course
[12:24] <stittel> BluesKaj: Deleting it with Konqueror doesn't work?
[12:24] <stittel> BluesKaj: What's the name of the directory?
[12:25] <BluesKaj>  it's  .asoundrc
[12:25] <stittel> So it doesn't display in Konqueror because it's hidden/
[12:25] <stittel> ?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> dunno how to delete with konq
[12:26] <Hobbsee> view, show hidden files, iirc
[12:26] <stittel> Yes, Hobbsee is right.
[12:26] <stittel> Alternatively, go to console and type: rm -R ~/.asoundrc
[12:26] <BluesKaj> oh i see , I think
[12:26] <stittel> This will also do it.
[12:28] <BluesKaj> the -R is like "force" as in -f ?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> seems to have worked
[12:30] <Jucato> hm.. shouldn't that have been -r only?
[12:30] <[Flux] > rm -r
[12:30] <Jucato> ah same thing
[12:30] <stittel> BluesKaj: No, the -R removes directories.
[12:30] <[Flux] > yeah
[12:30] <[Flux] > r and R are same
[12:30] <stittel> [Flux] : Yep.
[12:31] <stealthy> What do I need to view stuff in firefox on, say, ytmnd.com
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ok thx stittel...good to know
[12:31] <[Flux] > flash?
[12:31] <stittel> Are they also on BSD? I am sure I have a reason why I usually use uppercased R. :)
[12:31] <stealthy> [Flux] : umm, sure, I guess
[12:31] <[Flux] > there is a flash pacakge you can get through adept/synaptic
[12:31] <stittel> stealthy: Sunglasses.
[12:32] <[Flux] > i use swiftfox, so i dont get all the neat plugins, as for some reason they all goto firefox
[12:32] <[Flux] > i can use firefox though if i need java/flash
[12:33] <majnoon> doesn't swiftfox use the same plugins as firefox ??
[12:33] <[Flux] > yeah
[12:33] <[Flux] > which is wierd
[12:33] <stittel> ytmnd.com seems to need different plugins. My Firefox is complaining about no plugin for audio/wav for example.
[12:33] <[Flux] > stittel, get the flash package from adept
[12:33] <stealthy> [Flux] : it's telling me I need something for the sound, unknown plugin
[12:33] <[Flux] > hmm wierd
[12:33] <Jucato> actually, iirc ytmnd needs audi plugins
[12:33] <[Flux] > one sec
[12:33] <Jucato> mozilla mplayer plugin
[12:34] <[Flux] > it loads in my firefox
[12:34] <[Flux] > oh yeah thats it
[12:34] <majnoon> my <insert favorite BAD words here> cd burner won't work after upgrade :(
[12:34] <stittel> [Flux] : Well, thanks for telling me, but I am sure you did me stealthy not me. :)
[12:35] <stittel> majnoon: You are using K3b for burning? What exactly doesn't work?
[12:35] <stittel> majnoon: And "after upgrade" means "after upgrade from Edgy to Feisty" or "after the last security update"?
[12:35] <majnoon> it no see any cdr/cd-rw i put in drive
[12:35] <[Flux] > http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/
[12:35] <[Flux] > you can use that stittel
[12:35] <majnoon> edgey to feisty
[12:36] <[Flux] > its old though lol
[12:36] <stittel> [Flux] : Open source flash players are nowhere complete when it comes to implementing Flash9.
[12:36] <[Flux] > yeah
[12:36] <[Flux] > i wish ati would open source their drivers lol
[12:36] <stittel> majnoon: You are using K3b for burning?
[12:36] <[Flux] > or i should get a newer video card so i wouldnt need fglrx for 3d
[12:36] <stittel> majnoon: What ist the precise error you are getting?
[12:36] <[Flux] > lol
[12:37] <majnoon> yup
[12:37] <majnoon> jus a sec
[12:37] <stittel> majnoon: Are you trying to burn CD or DVD?
[12:37] <eddie> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:38] <majnoon> cd
[12:38] <majnoon> i tried cdrecord also
[12:38] <majnoon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583/
[12:39] <majnoon> that the errors i got
[12:39] <stittel> majnoon: You are 100% sure the CD media is ok? You have tried another CD recordable freshly from the package?
[12:40] <majnoon> i tried booting into edgey's kernel to see if that fixed it (it didn't)
[12:40] <majnoon> yup got a pack of 100
[12:40] <majnoon> tried 10
[12:40] <stittel> majnoon: Are you member of the "cdrom" groups?
[12:41] <stittel> *group
[12:41] <majnoon> pretty sure but also did with sudo/kdesu
[12:42] <stittel> majnoon: It didn't work with sudo?
[12:42] <majnoon> nope
[12:42] <stittel> majnoon: Is dvd writing working?
[12:42] <majnoon> it cd burner dvd reader
[12:43] <majnoon> dvd's PLAY ok
[12:43] <stittel> majnoon: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=242728 is the only discussion I can find at the moment on your error message.
[12:43] <stittel> majnoon: Have your tried reinstalling the cdrecord package?
[12:43] <majnoon> you look at the patebin page ??
[12:44] <stittel> majnoon: Yes, of course I did.
[12:44] <stealthy> http://ytmnd.com/sites/profile/758728
[12:44] <stealthy> that's epic right there
[12:44] <stealthy> I can't decide which is more so; the fact that my ytmnds once again work, or that someone got the AACS decryption key
[12:44] <majnoon> yup even downloaded the ORIGINAL version and installed that too (no diff)
[12:47] <stittel> majnoon: Have you tried different CD recordables (i. e. from another manufacturer)? Can you burn using Windows?
[12:48] <stittel> majnoon: If you have two CD drives: Can you burn using a LiveCD?
[12:48] <majnoon> no winblows and did try dif manufacturers
[12:48] <ward_> hi i just installed kubuntu 7.04 it works great ! :p
[12:49] <stittel> majnoon: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/416291f9a1167424/2a31b6fa03483ac1?lnk=st&q=%22wodim%3A+no+disk%22&rnum=1&hl=en#2a31b6fa03483ac1
[12:49] <stittel> majnoon: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/f00f19f00d21b99d/52bfdbb97ff051cd?lnk=st&q=%22wodim%3A+no+disk%22&rnum=3&hl=en#52bfdbb97ff051cd
[12:49] <stittel> majnoon: Both bugs are rather recent.
[12:50] <stittel> stittel: Do you know German? There also seems to be a very long thread about it on Usenet.
[12:50] <stittel> Argghh! I am talking to myself again!
[12:50] <stittel> majnoon: Do you know German? There also seems to be a very long thread about it on Usenet, but it is in German.
[12:51] <majnoon> nein duetch
[12:53] <stittel> majnoon: Well, I am a German native speaker and can read Dutch quite well, if I try hard. The languages are quite close to each other.
[12:54] <stittel> majnoon: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user.german/browse_thread/thread/1b250535a08ba071/05fce6ffa689cad7?lnk=st&q=%22wodim%3A+no+disk%22&rnum=2&hl=en#05fce6ffa689cad7 if you want to give it a try.
[12:55] <markc> anyone know of a kubuntustudio type project evolving anywhere ?
[12:55] <majnoon> going to try something
[12:58] <A_A> whats the command to open a program in root
[01:02] <majnoon> sudo <program>
[01:03] <majnoon> the german page made my eyes water
[01:04] <stittel> majnoon: Have you tried using the original cdrecord instead of this wodim fork?
[01:08] <alexicon> uhoh.. so i just did a fresh install of feisty... to get all my websites working am i going to have to remake all my mysql databases? :( how is that going to mess everything up for me
[01:08] <alexicon> any way i can import mysql databases from my old edgy install
[01:09] <Lynoure> alexicon: mysqldump is the traditional way but if you just upgrade to feisty, you databases should be fine.
[01:09] <alexicon> nah i did a fresh install
[01:09] <alexicon> i'll read up on the mysql dump
[01:10] <majnoon> yup installed cdrtools
[01:11] <majnoon> Lynoure: he did a M$ fix
[01:11] <majnoon> (reformat,reinstall)
[01:11] <ijacek> !cz
[01:11] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[01:13] <Lynoure> majnoon: if it is reformatted, and there is no backups, and a new data has been written on top of that, I would not get my hopes up at all
[01:14] <stittel> majnoon: I am really sorry, nothing else comes to my mind about this.
[01:14] <majnoon> THAT what alexicon said they DID
[01:15] <Lynoure> alexicon: Do you have the original databases still somewhere?
[01:15] <alexicon> no. i installled fresh onto a new partition. left edgy on another partition
[01:15] <alexicon> i have two installs im working with
[01:15] <alexicon> just in case.. i always do that. never reformat my last working / :P
[01:15] <majnoon> ok THAT shouldn't be a big problem then
[01:16] <majnoon> big PAIN maybe PROBLEM no
[01:16] <acemo> !ati
[01:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:16] <Lynoure> alexicon: if you do, you could try coping the databases and configurations, and with any luck it will be fine then, after a mysql restart. Or you can boot to the old one, and do a dump, but then you still need to create the users and so on.
[01:16] <ijacek> !cz
[01:16] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[01:17] <alexicon> ok Lynoure.  hrm have to find out about the copying @_@
[01:17] <srecko> !hr
[01:17] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[01:18] <alexicon> sounds easier to copy than to do the dump. esp as i got so confused when setting up the db or this site in the first place @_@
[01:18] <sayers> It says "Could not find mine type applications/octet-stream"
[01:18] <Lynoure> alexicon: I'll soon go, but it is not that complicated, either.  But I'm not 100% sure there has not been changes that break it.
[01:18] <hdxx> srecko: ili pitas mene :P
[01:18] <sayers> What does that mean?
[01:18] <alexicon> is it just me or is rails a rea pain in the ...
[01:18] <srecko> :P:P
[01:19] <alexicon> i really dont like this new readline .bash_history method...
[01:19] <alexicon> cant just go in and grep all the lines im looking for, gotta do them one by one now
[01:20] <brokennib> hw do i chose the correct kernel?
[01:21] <Lynoure> alexicon: hmm, to me grepping .bash_history works fine.
[01:22] <Lynoure> alexicon: and there is also ctrl+g for search on the command line.
[01:22] <alexicon> omg it does... wtf
[01:23] <alexicon> i swear last time i tried to grep .bash_history it said it was a bin file
[01:23] <alexicon> maki-chan!
[01:23] <maki> ?
[01:24] <alexicon> nufffin, ive just got two mates called makiko
[01:25] <maki> :)
[01:25] <user_> test
[01:25] <alexicon> :)
[01:26] <epimeth> user_: you have failed the test, please try again in 5 minute
[01:26] <epimeth> s
[01:26] <ijacek> hi :) why doesn't go shutdown my ubuntu with shutdown button ?
[01:27] <epimeth> ijacek: what shutdown button?  on the k-menu or on the keyboard?
[01:27] <alexicon> Lynoure: was database replication the other method you were describing?
[01:28] <ijacek> epimeth kmenu - menu
[01:28] <user_> Kubuntu 7.04 When 'switch user' login then logout screen is dia
[01:29] <user_> disabled - why
[01:30] <user_> epimeth:...aha....
[01:31] <user_> then ctrl-alt-f7 goes back to original login
[01:31] <epimeth> ijacek: what happens when you K -
[01:31] <epimeth> erg
[01:32] <epimeth> ijacek: what happens when you K -> Log Out -> Turn off ?
[01:32] <fdoving> the machine usually shuts down.
[01:32] <epimeth> fdoving: don't interrupt! :-p
[01:33] <testman> hi folks
[01:33] <epimeth> fdoving: he says his computer won't shut down... so I want to know exactly what happens
[01:33] <majnoon> Maxdamantus: STILL trying to figure out the cd burner problem :(
[01:33] <ijacek> epimeth: black screen
[01:34] <ijacek> epimeth ubuntu - kubuntu Edgy - FF same problem
[01:35] <mikkael> im trying to compile a kernel (my very first one), can i use this howto and change 2.6.20 with 2.6.21 ? -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> majnoon, I don't know how I can help you sorry.
[01:36] <user_> ijacek : I sometimes get this too - blackscreen and doesn't switch pc off - don't know why
[01:36] <fdoving> mikkael: looks good. yes.
[01:36] <Maxdamantus> Are you sure the CD isn't finalised already?
[01:36] <user_> to
[01:36] <ijacek> i have this problem any time
[01:37] <testman> i have a big problem: i have a wifi network with wpa2 encryption. in my laptop's knetworkmanager this is always displayed as a WEP encrypted network. when i configure the network manually via "connection to other network" then it hangs at 28% progress. my kubuntu version is 7.04. does anybody know what to do?
[01:37] <ijacek> *always
[01:37] <user_> ijacek - for me it happens 1 in 4 to 5 times
[01:39] <marcella_> hi
[01:39] <marcella_> I have a problem
[01:39] <marcella_> ./configure: line 21429: syntax error near unexpected token `OPENOBEX,openobex'
[01:39] <marcella_> ./configure: line 21429: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OPENOBEX,openobex)'
[01:42] <majnoon> i'm leaning toward something being wrong with the generic scsi driver(s)
[01:43] <llutz> hi
[01:47] <_StefanS_> ijacek: I haven't got that problem on either of my 2 laptops running feisty
[01:47] <_StefanS_> ijacek: what wireless card?
[01:50] <dthacker> testman: are you seeing errors in the logs about not being able to load microcode?
[01:50] <acemo> anyone can help me installing drivers for the X700 mobile?
[01:51] <dthacker> !anyone
[01:51] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:51] <Maxdamantus> Google is your friend.
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> !google
[01:52] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[01:52] <acemo> no its not.
[01:52] <pag> acemo, x700 = ati?
[01:52] <acemo> pag: yes, but one that is known to give trouble with linux
[01:53] <ijacek> _StefanS_: i have no wireles card
[01:53] <pag> acemo, I don't know about that particular model, but I've heard, tha ATIs older than x800 actually work better with open codecs (which are enabled by default)
[01:55] <acemo> pag: thanks for the tip.. im off to google for how to enable the opensource drivers again ^^
[01:56] <pag> acemo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  is probably one of the easiest ways :)
[01:56] <acemo> pag: thanks thats alot smaller as the 20 steps tutorial i just found :P
[01:57] <ijacek> if you have x700 x800 try use fglrx driver
[01:58] <acemo> ijacek: i tried installing the fglrx.. but at the lest step (the aticonfig --something) it just removes my xorg.conf
[01:59] <anessen> Hey, anybody know how to make applications start up minimized to the tray? I'm trying to set up my autostart applications, and don't want them cluttering the screen on startup.
[01:59] <ijacek> acemo: write fglrx into xorg.conf manualy
[02:00] <ijacek> on my x800 not work ati or radeon driver :(
[02:00] <acemo> ijacek: lemme find the command it was that screwed up..
[02:01] <A_A> root@ash-desktop:/home/ash# sudo konqueror
[02:01] <A_A> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:01] <A_A> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:01] <A_A> konqueror: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[02:01] <acemo> ijacek: sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[02:01] <A_A> y is it doing that
[02:01] <acemo> that command just removed my xorg.conf
[02:01] <benjamin> hi I connected a firewire disk to my kubuntu, this works exept that all cuple of minutes the firewire disk shutdown. Anyone an idea?
[02:01] <pag> A_A, alt+f2 -> kdesu konqueror  that sould work better
[02:02] <ijacek> acemo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  ........make new config
[02:02] <A_A> cheers
[02:03] <ijacek> acemo: or find you backup config in /etc/X11/
[02:03] <acemo> ijacek: i already putted back the backup before i opened this irc
[02:04] <ijacek> acemo :))
[02:04] <qx> ijacek : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/105102
[02:04] <acemo> ijacek: tried the dpkg-reconfigure command and choosing fglrx.. hope that will do something...
[02:05] <ijacek> acemo: rewrite ati or radeon to fglrx
[02:05] <mikkael> uhm any ideas how much time a amd athlon 2400 will need to compile the kernel ?
[02:06] <qx> test2
[02:06] <|infinity|> mikeont: something about 0.5 - 1 hour?
[02:06] <mikkael> okay thanks
[02:06] <acemo> ijacek: after choosing fglrx in the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg i get this.. glxinfo | grep direct
[02:06] <acemo> ijacek: direct rendering: yes
[02:07] <ijacek> hh
[02:07] <acemo> holy cow 80 fps..
[02:08] <acemo> on this game in windows only got 30-40 fps
[02:08] <acemo> ijacek, pag: thanks alot
[02:09] <ijacek> acemo: glxgears -printfps
[02:09] <acemo> 3500 fps average
[02:10] <ijacek> acemo: 28313 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5655.214 FPS with Xgl + Beryl
[02:10] <Tm_T> remember, it's not a benchmark
[02:10] <ijacek> acemo: without Xgl i have 8500
[02:10] <ijacek> Tm_T: i know it
[02:12] <Timsen> anessen: you can create a file in you ~/kde/Autostart and add the progs you want to start automatically after login
[02:13] <korobase> HI all.I install the wine.But I can't use ie6.
[02:13] <korobase> !ie4linux
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <korobase> and when I run the ies4linux,It always show me the help imformation.
[02:14] <korobase> Help me please.
[02:24] <testman> what is the difference between the alternate and the desktop iso image of kubuntu?
[02:25] <pag> testman, desktop install is graphical (and also works as live-cd), alternate is textbased, so it's for low-memory computers
[02:25] <testman> ok, thx pag
[02:27] <user_> hi
[02:27] <pag> hello
[02:30] <Aaronfromchina> any shortcut to switch desktop 1/2 on KDE?
[02:30] <apol> ctrl+F1 or ctrl+f2
[02:31] <apol> ctrl+tab to navigate across desktops
[02:31] <Aaronfromchina> apol: thanks. :)
[02:31] <Aaronfromchina> apol: ctrl + tab doesn't work. Do you mean alt + tab?
[02:32] <apol> alt+tab is to navigate across windows
[02:32] <apol> ctrl+tab to navigate across desktops
[02:33] <Aaronfromchina> apol: I press ctrl + tab, nothing happened. :(
[02:33] <apol> :S
[02:33] <apol> I don't know
[02:34] <apol> it works for me in every machine I have
[02:36] <Aaronfromchina> apol: sound weird. alt + tab, ctrl + Fn works fine. just ctrl + tab does NOT. :(
[02:37] <alexicon> whats the lib for ripping to mp3 again??
[02:37] <alexicon> lame?
[02:37] <user_> Aaronfromchina : check in system settings keyboard shortcuts
[02:38] <nummer9> moin
[02:38] <alexicon> hi
[02:39] <user_> Aaronfromchina : k ->systemsettings->keyboard/mouse->keyboardshortcuts->walk-through-windows
[02:39] <Aaronfromchina> user_: I define ctrl + tab for navigate desktop. It works! thank you . :)
[02:39] <penguin42> I've got a LUKS encrypted partition - is there a sensible way to make it appear on my kubuntu desktop with something that asks me for a password?
[02:39] <see-g> alexicon: yes, the lame is commonly used for ripping to mp3
[02:40] <alexicon> hrm ive got it installed but soundjuicer doesnt want to let me rip to mp3
[02:40] <see-g> does anyone know how to restart a crashed application automatically? (my ktorrent keeps on crashing every couple of hours...)
[02:40] <user_> Aaronfromchina : great - have u chaged it before? ( to make it not work)
[02:41] <Aaronfromchina> user_: I don't think so. :(
[02:41] <user_> Aaronfromchina : oh well it works now :)
[02:41] <Aaronfromchina> user_: ya. :)
[02:42] <ward_> how is that program called ? that when you press F12 a shell drops down ?
[02:43] <llutz> ward_: yakuake
[02:43] <Jucato> ward_: yakuake
[02:43] <ward_> thx :D
[02:43] <llutz> with a fantastic new 2.8-beta1 version :)
[02:44] <penguin42> I'm finding amarok on kubuntu skips occasionally while I've never heard Rhythymbox on ubuntu skip
[02:44] <penguin42> anyone else heard the same?
[02:44] <ward_> yay bleeding edge! :)
[02:44] <stratman4300> i haven't seen any problems like that with amarok....  course i have 3 GB of RAM too   :)
[02:44] <see-g> not for me, penguin42 ... what's the definition of "occasionally" in this case?
[02:44] <alexicon> can anyone confirm for me whether it actually works to transfer all of /var/lib/mysql from one machine to another and have all your mysql dbs work?
[02:45] <korobase> !mozilla
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <see-g> well, I had problems with amarok skipping when I hammered my CPU with a high priority-number crunching...
[02:47] <penguin42> see-g: Well maybe a couple of times an hour?
[02:48] <penguin42> see-g: I'm not doing anything particularly heavy - it's a dual 1.66GHz Core 2 laptop with 1GB ram
[02:48] <alexicon> anyone here use mpd? whats your favourite scrobbler??
[02:49] <see-g> penguin42: I suppose I'll have to tell you "works for me"
[02:49] <penguin42> see-g: Yeh that's fair enough
[02:50] <see-g> a quick and dirty workaround might be reducing amarok's niceness
[02:50] <binks_> alexicon: you should use mysqladmin to back up you db then restore it into you new db
[02:50] <alexicon> mysqladmin?
[02:50] <alexicon> ok
[02:51] <tuco> I need help with the install of Call of Duty using Wine. Thanks
[02:51] <see-g> (assuming that the audio files are intact and the skipping is caused by some other process "stealing" amarok's cpu time)
[02:51] <penguin42> see-g: Yeh I could try that - I could also try killing off it's visualisation stuff - I keep dropping its frame rate down
[02:52] <penguin42> see-g: I do wonder whether it is a lack of buffering though; amarok is using less than 2% CPU
[02:52] <penguin42> hmm - that does jump up at the start of a track
[02:52] <stratman4300> question....  just did a vanilla install of Kubuntu on my laptop....    how would i make the bluetooth services NOT start at boot time???
[02:52] <binks_> alexicon: http://codex.wordpress.org/Backing_Up_Your_Database
[02:53] <alexicon> cheers binks_
[02:53] <pag> alexicon, for mpd there's mpdscribble, it works quite nice :)
[02:53] <alexicon> yep just installed it :)
[02:53] <tuco> Anybody can help with Call of duty and wine folks please?
[02:54] <see-g> now that you mention it ... thanks for reminding me of what seemed strange to me about amarok (I've never seen anything to change the buffer size)
[02:55] <penguin42> see-g: Which makes me wonder if it isn't using much!  Although I think it is possibly because it's just a frontend to another sound lib - I can see it says it is using the xine engine
[02:56] <penguin42> see-g: I also wonder if any buffer it does have empties at the end of a track and perhaps it is more susceptible to a skip near the start of a track
[02:56] <llutz> stratman4300: sudo update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove
[02:58] <Aaronfromchina> KTorrent is eventually crashed. Here is the error message. Any idea?
[02:58] <Aaronfromchina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19607/
[03:00] <fdoving> Aaronfromchina: feisty?
[03:00] <Aaronfromchina> fdoving: yes. feisty.
[03:01] <marcella_> aclocal.m4:279: /usr/bin/m4: Cannot open tcl.m4: No such file or directory
[03:01] <marcella_> autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
[03:01] <see-g> penguin42: hmm ... I'll probably not notice it skipping because of an emptied buffer at the end of a track since I have crossfading enabled so it has about 2 seconds to fill the buffer before the next track actually starts
[03:01] <fdoving> Aaronfromchina: known bug, i installed this: http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/2.1.4/feisty/ - works for me. a fix is in beeing prepared afaik.
[03:01] <stratman4300> Thanks llutz
[03:02] <penguin42> see-g: Interesting - I don't have crossfade enabled; I have fade-out on
[03:03] <Aaronfromchina> fdoving: thanks. I'll have a try. I'm curious that what the problem is supposed?
[03:03] <see-g> penguin42: I have crossfading and fade out enabled since anything like a sudden stop of the music simply hurts my ears ;)
[03:03] <fdoving> Aaronfromchina: something with DHT iirc.
[03:04] <see-g> ...so disabling DHT might be a workaround as well?
[03:04] <penguin42> see-g: Haha yes; but yeh I'm sensitive to the skips
[03:04] <fdoving> see-g: not sure, can't hurt to try.
[03:05] <see-g> fdoving: uhm ... I just won't be able to notice the difference - I come back to the computer after some hours and ktorrent is crashed or not...
[03:05] <penguin42> see-g: Hmm on the xine gui it has a 'number of audio buffers' setting
[03:06] <see-g> where do I find the xine gui?
[03:06] <fdoving> see-g: i have been seeding the kubuntu dvd iso with my ktorrent for 5-6 days without crashes after installing the 2.1.4 package i posted the link to.
[03:07] <penguin42> see-g: apt-get install xine-ui
[03:07] <fdoving> see-g: in the xine-ui package,
[03:10] <bentob0x> has anybody used curlftpfs here?
[03:15] <Aaronfromchina> fdoving: the deb you link to is ktorrent 2.1.4. Is it quite old version? I dpkg the deb, and start ktorrent again, the version does not change to 2.1.4 (it's 3.5.6)
[03:16] <fdoving> Aaronfromchina: 2.1.4 is the current release.
[03:16] <amcr> hello.
[03:17] <Aaronfromchina> fdoving: you're right! :) I made a stupid mistake to check KDE version. :)
[03:17] <amcr> is there any way to install kubuntu i386 over an AMD64 Kubuntu installation without using the CD, I mean by changing repositories and reinstall all?
[03:19] <fdoving> amcr: it can be done, but it's one of those 'if you have to ask, you probably don't want to try to do it'-things. it's complicated and will probably fail and break your system.
[03:19] <binks_> ok in ktorrent webui setup it asks for path for phpwhere would that be
[03:19] <binks_> path to php
[03:20] <see-g> fdoving: well, it's not that hard ... it's just ... one mistake and you're screwed...
[03:20] <fdoving> binks_: install php5-cli package.
[03:20] <amcr> fdoving: I wanted to do it remotely but I think I'll have and reinstall everythin with the CD but without formating.
[03:20] <lupul> does anyone know why konqueror suddnetly died? forever
[03:20] <lupul> and if i start it again it blocks my pc
[03:20] <see-g> (ok, so is working in the shell in general, as everyone who did rm -rf / by mistake can confirm ;))
[03:21] <see-g> lupul: if someone hacked you, you might want to ask that guy/gal...     otherwise you might be successful in fixing that with dpkg-reconfigure konqueror
[03:21] <lupul> noone hacked me
[03:21] <lupul> thanks i'll try the reconfigure
[03:25] <binks_> fdoving: ok i installed that now what goes in the path box in ktorrent
[03:26] <binks_> fdoving: is it /etc/bin/php5
[03:28] <see-g> anyway, I'll get back to work now ... bye
[03:29] <fdoving> binks_: doesn't it detect it automatically?
[03:29] <fdoving> binks_: /usr/bin/php5 i guess.
[03:30] <lupul> ok. so konqueror dies only when i'm browsing my hdd. which could be the problem?
[03:30] <lupul> web browsing works fine
[03:30] <marcella_> ./configure: line 21429: syntax error near unexpected token `OPENOBEX,openobex'
[03:30] <marcella_> ./configure: line 21429: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OPENOBEX,openobex);'
[03:31] <marcella_> help me
[03:33] <ubuntu> hey
[03:33] <ubuntu> someone could help me to install the kubuntu?
[03:33] <marcella_> hi ubuntu
[03:33] <ubuntu> hey
[03:33] <ubuntu> someone coult help me?
[03:33] <marcella_> can you help me
[03:33] <marcella_> ?
[03:33] <ubuntu> i need to
[03:33] <marcella_> ./configure: line 21429: syntax error near unexpected token `OPENOBEX,openobex'
[03:33] <marcella_> ./configure: line 21429: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OPENOBEX,openobex);'
[03:33] <ubuntu> i need help to
[03:34] <ubuntu> how i install kubuntu without unisntall windows xp?
[03:35] <smoze> is there an easy way to install glib??
[03:35] <ubuntu> i need helo
[03:35] <ubuntu> help
[03:35] <Lynoure> ubuntu: If I recall right you just make sure there is enough disk space for both, and pop in the like cd and then choose install. I think the installer can resize partitions.
[03:35] <ubuntu> what option i choose
[03:35] <ubuntu> using the large free space?
[03:36] <Lynoure> ubuntu: I do not have it in front of me, so I cannot give you very detailed help. But that one sounds good. Always do backups before installing new OSes, if you can, though.
[03:37] <ubuntu> ok
[03:37] <ubuntu> i will do that
[03:38] <ubuntu> lets try
[03:38] <ubuntu> xD
[03:39] <smoze> !glib
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <stefan__> hello all :)
[03:46] <stefan__> I want to create an ssh account with homedir but only read only to this homedirectory
[03:46] <stefan__> how can I do this
[03:46] <stefan__> ?
[03:47] <kalorin> uh
[03:47] <kalorin> make the directory owned by root
[03:47] <kalorin> and set all the files in it read only?
[03:47] <stefan__> ist an ssh access to a webdirectory where the user ha onl read access
[03:47] <kalorin> or owned by another user
[03:48] <kalorin> ssh -> term, webdirectory -> web content
[03:48] <stefan__> ?
[03:48] <kalorin> yeah ?
[03:48] <stefan__> yes
[03:49] <stefan__> hmm. how can I do this?
[03:50] <kalorin> no clue
[03:50] <kalorin> what you're asking about isn't making a bit of sense to me
[03:51] <jim> Good afternoon all (well here anyway)
[03:51] <jim> I was wondering if I could get some advice
[03:52] <jim> I would like to syncronise a folder that I have created on my desktop with one I have on a windows server, is there a way to do this?
[03:52] <fulat2k> stefan__: prolly u can define what you mean by webdirectory
[03:53] <bobstro> jim:  rsync can do that.
[03:53] <bobstro> ricardo:  or unison
[03:54] <jim> bobstro: is it easy to set up on the folder?
[03:55] <bobstro> jim:  well, there is a gui for unison. not the most friendly thing, but not overly complex. you'll need ssh running on the "other" machine.
[03:55] <jim> bobstro: just found a tutorial online. Will have a look at that. Many thanks for the pointer
[03:55] <bobstro> jim:  good luck with it! i use rsync frequently, unison's better for two-way sync.
[04:03] <drkns> hello
[04:03] <drkns> i need help installing atk
[04:03] <drkns> i am getting this error
[04:03] <drkns> its sayin pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.9, but GLIB (2.12.11)
[04:04] <drkns> was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best
[04:04] <drkns> *** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error
[04:04] <drkns> *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
[04:04] <drkns> *** /etc/ld.so.conf.
[04:04] <drkns> ????
[04:04] <drkns> at first it couldnt find any glib now it says it has two versions
[04:05] <drkns> anybody know how to solve this problem?
[04:09] <maltaethiron> !update
[04:09] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:09] <jim> just a quickie - is all that I need to play dvds the libdvdcss2 and Win32codecs? or is there another download that I should get for Kaffine to work?
[04:09] <epimeth> jim:
[04:09] <epimeth> I'm fairly certain that thats it
[04:10] <epimeth> drkns: I'm not sure, but what I would do is remove 2.12.9
[04:10] <jim> epimeth: many thanks, looking for them now!
[04:10] <blekos_> hi, i want to edit my bashrc file to add a couple of alias, where can i find it?
[04:11] <llutz> blekos_: ~/.bashrc
[04:11] <epimeth> jim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?highlight=%28dvd%29
[04:11] <drkns> epimeth when i try to remove glib then the whole things is removed
[04:11] <drkns> kubuntu becomes unusable
[04:11] <ubuntu> h' all
[04:12] <drkns> if there is another way to remove the older version of glib without breaking the sys let me know pls
[04:12] <epimeth> drkns: I'll check...
[04:12] <binks_> fdoving: can you test to see if you can see my login screen www.binks120.homelinux.net:8080
[04:13] <binks_> sorry its just http://binks120.homelinux.net:8080
[04:13] <epimeth> jim: and, I think this one is more recent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29
[04:14] <drkns> If GLIB is installed
[04:14] <drkns> *** but not in the same location as pkg-config add the location of the file
[04:14] <drkns> *** glib-2.0.pc to the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[04:14] <drkns> anyone knows how to do this??
[04:14] <epimeth> drkns: where is this from?
[04:14] <drkns> this error comes up when i try to compile atk 1.12.3
[04:15] <drkns> i am trying to compile gimp
[04:15] <binks_> can anyone test to see if they get to my login screen on http://binks120.homelinux.net:8080 please
[04:15] <epimeth> and how the hell did blinks_ quit without a quit message?
[04:15] <epimeth> oh.. heh
[04:15] <epimeth> binks_: lol
[04:15] <epimeth> thought it was blinks
[04:15] <binks_> lol
[04:15] <epimeth> binks_: I can see it...
[04:15] <binks_> thanks epimeth
[04:15] <epimeth> its the ktorrent web interface
[04:16] <binks_> yes
[04:16] <binks_> just set up the homlinux site
[04:16] <drkns> ok thanks anyways people
[04:16] <drkns> bye
[04:16] <epimeth> binks_: and for a really awesome homelinux site, check out Jinzora
[04:16] <epimeth> binks_: now *that* is serious coolness
[04:17] <epimeth> drkns: wait
[04:17] <epimeth> drkns: I want to help... give me a sec
[04:17] <epimeth> :-)
[04:18] <blekos_> do i need to restart my machine in order for aliases to be enabled? ( i edited bashrc)
[04:18] <maltaethiron> how do i figure out which version of kubuntu i have?
[04:19] <LjL> !version > maltaethiron    (maltaethiron, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:19] <pag> blekos_, just restart the konsole afaik.
[04:19] <llutz> maltaethiron: lsb_release -id
[04:19] <blekos_> how do i do that?
[04:19] <maltaethiron> thanks
[04:20] <binks_> epimeth: is jinzora in repos
[04:20] <binks_> looks cool
[04:20] <yonkeltron> anyone have a thinkpad t60? i'm having some issues with my hardware mixer
[04:20] <pag> blekos_, well.. if you don't have konsole open, then you can't (and therefore don't have to) restart it
[04:20] <epimeth> drkns: whats the output of $dpkg -l *glib*
[04:20] <epimeth> ?
[04:22] <epimeth> binks_: dunno...
[04:23] <jim> any ideas where I can get 64 bit win32codecs - many thanks
[04:23] <chijin> there's no way
[04:24] <chijin> you can get the 32bit ones though
[04:24] <chijin> + 64-bit vlc can run wmv-files
[04:24] <binks_> epimeth: sorry im lazy i should just check :);)
[04:25] <pag> jim, from medibuntu. they're called w64codecs (at least such package exists, I think it the one you need)
[04:27] <jim> pag: Noticed that medibuntu was available...just trying to add them to my list.......at least its a straight up learning curve...lol
[04:27] <epimeth> binks_: doesn't look like it, but it seems to be a slice of pie to install
[04:27] <epimeth> drkns: you still here?
[04:28] <epimeth> jim: no... a straight up learning curve would be one that can't be climbed ;-)
[04:31] <jim> epimeth: ;) true
[04:38] <Aaronfromchina> fdoving: KTorrent has been working fine for + 1 hour. :) Much better than before (<15 min.).  thanks. :)
[04:40] <CVirus> Isn't there documentation like this one for Kubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/ ?
[04:43] <dfeser> hi!
[04:43] <dfeser> does someone use authentication against AD in feistsy?
[05:05] <dfeser> someone using samba for ad auth here?
[05:05] <mats> its easier to ask about you problem and not if anyone uses it ;)
[05:06] <dfeser> i cant login if samba and winbind have autostart
[05:07] <dfeser> if i disable this and start winbind and after that samba...it works immediately
[05:07] <ward_> what do i need to do in order to have flash 9 on an amd64?
[05:08] <epimeth> dfeser: set winbind to start before samba... check out /etc/rcS.d
[05:08] <Yorokobi> ward_: are you using a 32 or 64 bit OS
[05:10] <dfeser> epimeth shall i put winbind into rcS.d ?
 try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
 it's a pretty easy howto
[05:12] <dfeser> epimeth does rcS.d get started before rc2.d ?
[05:13] <fulat2k> any idea how i can change how i can change the file selection behaviour in konqy?
[05:13] <llutz> dfeser: use update-rc.d to change starting-order
[05:14] <Jucato> fulat2k: what do you mean?
[05:15] <epimeth> dfeser: rcS.d runs first
[05:15] <dfeser> works!
[05:15] <epimeth> hah
[05:16] <epimeth> your welcome :-)
[05:16] <javi> hola
[05:17] <gils> anyone here willing to help with a SSH issue?
[05:17] <Yorokobi> gils: what is the issue?
[05:19] <gils> Yorokobi:nothing major. I just want to know if there is some way of getting the system to notify me when there is an active incoming ssh connection
[05:19] <fulat2k> Jucato: right now if i want to start selecting multiple files, i press the shift button.  but it sticks to this mode until i press esc.  anyway i can make the multi select lses sticky
[05:19] <gils> you know. like when remote desktop logs in....it notifies you of the connection
[05:20] <gils> i want the same to happen when someone logs into my desktop from the office.
[05:20] <gils> using ssh
[05:20] <Yorokobi> gils: SSH records connections in /var/log/auth.log; you can use something like logwatch/logcheck to monitor the auth.log ... ossec will do it as well
[05:20] <llutz> gils: or maybe with an iptables ALERT-rule...
[05:21] <gils> yes
[05:21] <gils> i was thinking about the ip tables. Not sure how to use alert rule, but will try to play with that, thanks
[05:25] <Karti> Hi all, having trouble playing dvds with Kaffine - I have installed libdvdcss2 and win64codecs but still it fails to recognise or find dvd - source can't be read and no plugin found - any ideas would be appreciated
[05:26] <epimeth> Karti: best I can do is point you here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?highlight=%28dvd%29
[05:27] <epimeth> Karti:  and here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29
[05:28] <epimeth> \join #Quanta
[05:28] <epimeth> erg
[05:32] <LucidFox> what is the default Qt theme used in Kubuntu - Plastik or Lipstik?
[05:32] <LucidFox> (I don't remember)
[05:34] <stimpy_ch> hi all.. may somone able to help me with a problem using knetworkmanager?
[05:34] <Jucato> LucidFox: depends. it was Plastik but in Feisty 7.04 it is Polyester now
[05:34] <LucidFox> hmm
[05:35] <stimpy_ch> since last reboot knetworkmanager seems nomore know anything about my wireless divecess on my notebook
[05:36] <LucidFox> hmm, Polyester looks somewhat Vista-ish
[05:36] <LucidFox> and Qt4?
[05:38] <Jucato> what about qt4?
[05:39] <Jucato> (polyester is very configurable, but the default "theme" is a modified glassy look)
[05:41] <LucidFox> does Kubuntu set a default Qt4 theme?
[05:41] <Jucato> hm... no
[05:42] <Jucato> or not that I'm aware of. try running speedcrunch to check. I'm sure it's using Plastique
[05:42] <ubuntu> hi
[05:42] <binks_> ubuntu: hi m8 choose a nic m8
[05:42] <leo__> !beryl
[05:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:42] <DexterF> trying to inst 7.04, on step 4 it scans the disks, but then nothing more happens.
[05:43] <DexterF> pointers, anyone?
[05:43] <LucidFox> wow, SpeedCrunch is indeed Qt4 in Feisty
[05:43] <LucidFox> is there a list of apps ported to Qt4 in Feisty?
[05:43] <Jucato> LucidFox: yes it is. and so is the hardware database app
[05:43] <LucidFox> cool
[05:44] <Jucato> not sure if the kde-guidance control modules are using PyQt4 or still PyQt3
[05:45] <LucidFox> yes, it seems plastique is the default
[05:45] <LucidFox> (it doesn't automatically respect the Qt3 font settings, though)
[05:52] <tdn> I am trying to set up encrypted root filesystem with LUKS/cryptsetup. I have installed a base system on sda6 (2400MB partition), used sda2 (300MB partition) as /boot; then I have luksFormat'ed sda5 (50GB partition) and made an ext3 filesystem on that; then I copied everything from sda6 to sda5 and edited /etc/fstab to use /dev/mapper/root for / and edited /etc/crypttab to set up sda5 as /dev/mapper/root; then I ran update-initrd. Now I cannot boot to my encr
[05:55] <DexterF> nvm, setup just cont'ed, but took ages
[05:59] <servo_> hello!
[06:00] <epimeth> whats a good calculator program?  specifically all the functionality available in the "scientific" mode of window's calc
[06:00] <Jucato> epimeth: speedcrunch (installed by default)
[06:01] <epimeth> no dec -> hex
[06:01] <epimeth> :-)
[06:01] <epimeth> thats what I specifically need right this second :-)
[06:01] <Jucato> there isn't? I thought there was
[06:01] <epimeth> what up Jucato?
[06:01] <Jucato> hm.. how about kcalc?
[06:01] <DexterF> i got two swap partitions on this box, installer wants to use both. how do I keep it from doing so?
[06:02] <Jucato> DexterF: don't mount one of them. (why do you have 2 swaps anyway?)
[06:02] <llutz> epimeth: kcalc does
[06:02] <DexterF> Jucato: two hard disks, two separate installations
[06:03] <DexterF> what do you mean dont mount, im in the installer
[06:03] <epimeth> Jucato: llutz: cheers guys
[06:03] <epimeth> always a pleasure :-)
[06:03] <Jucato> DexterF: ah... did you know that you could use the same swap for different installations, even on different hard disks? but anyway, in the step where you get to choose where you mount different partitions, just choose not to mount one of the swap partitions
[06:04] <DexterF> swaps son't have mount points in the traditional sense
[06:04] <epimeth> hrm... if I open an image in gwenviewer and right click -> external tools -> KolourPaint I get an error... attempting to install KolourPaint tells me it doesn't exist... anybody know what the package is called?
[06:04] <DexterF> *don't
[06:05] <DexterF> and yes I know I can "recycle" swap, but I don't want to for a couple of reasons
[06:05] <Jucato> DexterF: hm.. ok.. I haven't recently done an install using the Desktop CD so I can't really be certain. but on  the alternate install CD, you still can choose to "mount" a swap partition
[06:06] <DexterF> hm. well, ok, I guess I'll let 'er rip with these options and then kick the other swap from fstab for now
[06:07] <Jucato> epimeth: it's available in the universe repositories
[06:07] <Jucato> epimeth: you could also change kolourpaint to krita if you want
[06:07] <DexterF> does kub integrate nicely into existing grubs?
[06:07] <Jucato> (or don't want to install kolourpaint)
[06:12] <epimeth> Jucato: how is kolourpaint?  do you like it / prefer krita
[06:12] <epimeth> ?
[06:12] <epimeth> Jucato: I have all repos in my list... it just hit my that I capitalized the K and P... heh o.o;
[06:13] <Jucato> epimeth: I haven't used it at all. But I guess that it's not as "full" as Krita
[06:14] <epimeth> alls I need is to see the size of a selected area, a dropper to pull a color, and a way to check the RGB vals of whatever color I pulled :-)
[06:14] <Jucato> hm..?
[06:14] <epimeth> mspaint, in other words :-)
[06:14] <epimeth> yea... web developer :-p
[06:14] <Jucato> doesn't gwenview already have that feature? or digikam's editor
[06:14] <epimeth> not that I found (gwenview) never used digikam
[06:15] <Jucato> both are installed by default
[06:15] <epimeth> I know... just haven't used digicam :-)
[06:15] <epimeth> anyhoo... time to leave the office.... friggin 7:15 pm....
[06:15] <epimeth> we'll chat later...
[06:15] <epimeth> adios
[06:17] <rafal> hi all
[06:19] <scorpking> hi
[06:20] <UKESN|Javax> is there any way i can get flash and java working on AMD64 ?
[06:20] <Jucato> !flash64
[06:20] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:20] <UKESN|Javax> ty
[06:21] <Benj1> huhu, ich hab gerade versucht nen neuen kernel zu backen, hab die vanilla-sources benutzt, aber jetzt startet der kubuntu nicht mehr, der ldt den kernel richtig aber nach dem root filesystem check bleibt der stehen und macht garnichts mehr
[06:22] <llutz> !de| Benj1
[06:22] <ubotu> Benj1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:22] <Benj1> oh, sry, haven't noticed :D :D
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> !dvdcss
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[06:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:27] <agresor> hello how to stop sounds on KDE ?
[06:27] <agresor> When i open something.. or close.. i getting sounts
[06:27] <agresor> :S
[06:27] <agresor> it is so boring...
[06:29] <Jucato> agresor: in System Settings -> Notifications -> System Notifications, choose "The KDE Window Manager" from the Event source drop down list at the top and turn of the sounds that you don't like to hear
[06:31] <aro> Anyone else have issues with kubuntu not shutting down / rebooting properly ?
[06:31] <dbedana> me
[06:32] <dbedana> hello test mic
[06:33] <dbedana> join/ room 234
[06:33] <agresor> Jucato,  thank you.
[06:33] <agresor> how to make kde Transparent ?
[06:33] <aro> What do you mean?
[06:34] <JackPhil> where is the virtual filesystem is configured?
[06:34] <aro> The windows?
[06:34] <dbedana> how to change channels?
[06:34] <JackPhil> such as lrm procbususb
[06:34] <JackPhil> they show in /etc/mtab, but not in /etc/fstab
[06:34] <aro> dbedana, /join
[06:34] <dbedana> ty
[06:35] <dbedana> can u give me a cool channel to chat?
[06:35] <aro> dbedana, I don't know any, sorry
[06:35] <D1S4ST3R_> hello
[06:35] <dbedana> alright, il juz experiment
[06:35] <D1S4ST3R_> !de
[06:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:42] <laras> ho kubuntu dapper dake..come faccio a portarlo a ubuntu 7.04 tramite shell'
[06:42] <AFaith> anyone from romania ?
[06:43] <pheonix> anybody has a kubuntu 7.04 dvd
[06:43] <kekko_> how to skip gnome loading at startup and enter straight into a shell?
[06:43] <pheonix> the fiesty fawn version
[06:43] <AFaith> or what do you know about speedtouch 330 in feisty ?
[06:44] <zucco> Hi, I made upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty, then my cdrom stops to work. What can I do to solve this issue ?
[06:45] <pheonix> y dotn you use dvds
[06:45] <pheonix> y dont you use dvds
[06:45] <xerox_> hi, how to stop x, going to install nvidia but x autostart if stoped w ctr alt backspace
[06:45] <pheonix> you dont have a dvd drive
[06:46] <zucco> its a combo drive: cdrom rw and dvd reader
[06:46] <snowdonkey> Hi!  Quick question -- does Kubuntu support multiprocessing?  Can I install it on an Intel Duo Core system for example?
[06:46] <pheonix> so use a dvd instead of a cd
[06:46] <pheonix> yes y not
[06:46] <pheonix> you can
[06:47] <snowdonkey> Great, thanks.
[06:47] <zucco> # grep dvd /etc/fstab : none results
[06:47] <zucco> # grep cdrom /etc/fstab
[06:47] <zucco> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:48] <lupul> does anyone why konqueror suddently dies when i try to  browse my computer? on web browsing works fine
[06:48] <zucco> but /dev/hdc don't exist. I try to create with mknod, but can't mount cd either
[06:48] <pheonix> no idea then
[06:48] <pheonix> you want to install
[06:49] <pheonix> nvidia
[06:49] <lupul> does anyone know why konqueror suddently dies when i try to  browse my computer?(and it blocks my pc too) on web browsing works fine
[06:49] <pheonix> but what you want to install graphic card or something
[06:49] <zucco> SOLVED: changed /dev/hdc to /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab
[06:49] <xerox_> yep nvidia driver but need to stop x fist :)
[06:50] <pheonix> ya
[06:50] <pheonix> zucco: you got it
[06:50] <pheonix> ?
[06:50] <pheonix> lupul:what you want
[06:50] <zucco> yes, it's worked, I got help in #ubuntu
[06:51] <A_Faith> hey i've asked you something ... no one knows ?
[06:51] <lupul> what do you mean by what i want?
[06:51] <zucco> pheonix, thanks
[06:51] <lupul> i'd like to know a way to reset konqueror
[06:51] <pheonix> hey is ok
[06:51] <lupul> or...
[06:51] <lupul> whatever goes wrong
[06:51] <pheonix> zucco : who helped you tuxmaniac or g0sub
[06:52] <pheonix> lupul:when does your konquerer dies
[06:52] <zucco> pheonix, stefg
[06:52] <pheonix> ok
[06:52] <lupul> when i try to access my hdd
[06:53] <lupul> my data is mounted in /stuff
[06:53] <pheonix> did you try changing the nam
[06:53] <pheonix> did you try changing the name
[06:53] <pheonix> i mean remained it
[06:54] <pheonix> which distro you have
[06:54] <lupul> when i enter /stuff in the browsing line it blocks
[06:55] <pheonix> try renaming stuff
[06:55] <pheonix> which distro you have
[06:55] <lupul> feisty
[06:55] <lupul> but yesterday worked fine
[06:56] <lupul> then i changed the icons theme and from then on....
[06:56] <pheonix> ya
[06:56] <pheonix> it happens
[06:56] <pheonix> try to go back to defaults
[06:57] <lupul> im using now nautilus but suxx in front of konq
[06:57] <pheonix> hmm ya
[06:57] <pheonix> try to go back to defaults
[06:57] <lupul> i did dpkg-reconfigure konqueror
[06:57] <lupul> but still the same
[06:57] <pheonix> ubuntu or kubuntu
[06:57] <pheonix> ?
[06:57] <lupul> kubuntu
[06:57] <pheonix> did you install it from dvd
[06:57] <lupul> yes
[06:57] <pheonix> ok
[06:58] <lupul> ubuntu doesn't even start.
[06:58] <lupul> the bootable cd doesn't load
[06:58] <pheonix> in ubuntu
[06:58] <pheonix> ?
[06:58] <pheonix> lupul:did you get my pm
[06:59] <lupul> yes i did
[06:59] <lupul> but i can't reply
[06:59] <lupul> cause i have to register
[06:59] <pheonix> reply then
[06:59] <pheonix> over it self
[07:00] <pheonix> okl
[07:00] <pheonix> then whats there in registering
[07:00] <lupul> i'm trying to reply but bot doesn't aloow me
[07:00] <lupul> *allow
[07:00] <lupul> 0:00]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[07:01] <pheonix> type /msg NickServ REGISTER yourusername yourpassword
[07:01] <lupul> i just saw that in the faq
[07:01] <lupul> thanks
[07:01] <pheonix> ok
[07:04] <|ericsson|> Anyone could name a recommended FTP client for Kubuntu...
[07:07] <firecrotch> |ericsson|: Personally, I like to use Konqueror for FTP
[07:10] <alexander_> !de
[07:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:11] <Racchio> hi there!
[07:11] <freejack> was ist los?
[07:11] <firecrotch> hi, Racchio
[07:12] <chijin> |ericsson|: konqueror
[07:12] <atidem> ciao!
[07:13] <Racchio> Can someone help me with La Fonera's port forwarding? I can't find any howto I can apply to my case. I've a pppoe connection and a dynamic IP. I'd like to setup La Fonera to do the proper port forwarding for eMule and such...but I don't know how! :D Thanks!
[07:13] <Racchio> hi firecrotch ;)
[07:13] <Racchio> Ciao atidem!
[07:14] <Racchio> it's probably a simple task but I know nothing about networking ;-)
[07:17] <rdallarmi> anybody in here has experience with authdeamond?
[07:17] <rizoma> hi
[07:17] <Racchio> hi rizoma :)
[07:18] <atidem> hello Racchio
[07:19] <Racchio> hello again atidem :)
[07:19] <Racchio> how's going? :D
[07:19] <rizoma> someone know if nautilusntfstools works with kde?
[07:21] <viktor> is there a way to disable feature that adds numbers and leters to links in konqueror when i press ctrl?
[07:24] <coreymon77> is nobody talking?
[07:25] <bobstro> coreymon77:  just an awkward silence. you have a question?
[07:25] <coreymon77> nope
[07:25] <Racchio> Can someone help me in setting up La Fonera's port forwarding so that aMule could work at his best? Tnx :)
[07:25] <bobstro> just stare at the ceiling
[07:25] <Racchio> atidem: sorry...it looks like I can't chat in query...I should register my nick first :P Thanks for your tip though!
[07:26] <xerox_> had to disable autologin then I could install nvidia driver(beta)
[07:26] <atidem> you are welcome, Racchio
[07:28] <viktor> is there a way to disable the feature that adds numbers and letters to links in konqueror when i press ctrl?
[07:31] <matthew_> Can someone remind me of what file to set the run-level in?
[07:33] <bobstro> viktor:  it's in one of the accessibility options i think. perhaps in system settings? i don't see it in konqueror.
[07:33] <julian> hi
[07:36] <viktor> bobstro: yeah, i'm sure it's good, but when you don't need it, it's a pain
[07:37] <rizoma> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19658/ it's normal?
[07:38] <nixternal> rizoma: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:38] <nixternal> don't use sudo when opening up gui apps
[07:38] <rizoma> ah i'ts my mistake?
[07:38] <rizoma> kdesu?
[07:38] <nixternal> ya, small but not dangerous :)
[07:38] <rizoma> what's is?
[07:38] <nixternal> kdesu == KDE graphical based sudo
[07:39] <rizoma> ok
[07:39] <djdarkman> hy, is there a program that can create zip files without compressing the files, just storing them?
[07:40] <rizoma> nixternal:  same effect
[07:42] <tatters>  I is running Feisty , I wish to try Looking glass desktop a HOWTO says to add "deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian stable contrib "  to source list, will this cause any problems on Kubuntu adding debian packages to source list
[07:43] <venik> anyone using Opera 9.2 here?
[07:43] <rizoma> nixternal:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19660/
[07:47] <silence150> tatters: in my experience, it usually works fine to use debian packages (as long as it's not a debian kernel or anything that has to do with the system)
[07:48] <silence150> havn't tried the looking glass packages though, so I don't know for sure
[07:48] <rizoma> how can solve this error?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19660/
[07:49] <matthew_> I cannot install nvidia drivers because kubuntu won't change run-levels.. it always comes back with X... how can I stop X on kubuntu?
[07:50] <Racchio> matthew_: did you tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ?
[07:50] <matthew_> nope.. didn't know that one..
[07:51] <Racchio> try it :P
[07:51] <Racchio> anyway...I installed nVidia driver using X...off course I had to reboot later...but the installation proces works
[07:51] <Racchio> or ad least...it should :D
[07:51] <jore> i have a little proplem: when i try log in adept manager its report this " Read only mode: database locked, probably some other adept application or apt-get or aptitude). please close the other application before using this on"?
[07:52] <jore> aptitude and apt-get is alredy closed
[07:53] <Racchio> jore: may be some ".lock" not deleted after an apt crash?
[07:55] <jore> i dont know
[07:56] <venik> anyone using Opera 9.2 here?  I am trying to view videos from cnn.com using Opera
[07:56] <jore> after an apt crashed i was try install some pack in adept manager but it not install it and it report some error i dont remember what in it error read
[07:57] <see-g> jore: try to reproduce that error and then ask again
[07:57] <see-g> (the obvious attempt would be to install something in adept)
[07:58] <aro> I'm using Opera 9.2
[07:59] <jore> see-g but i dont can try install some guz i cant go adept manager?
[07:59] <mikkael> does the kubuntu live cd contain qtparted ?
[08:01] <HymnToLife> mikkael, yes
[08:01] <awatson> hey
[08:01] <awatson> need help with k3b - for some reason my Software buffer goes down to 0 right away
[08:02] <awatson> and only goes back up to 1-5%
[08:02] <jore> hey now this works i was write "dpkg --configure -a"
[08:02] <awatson> my burning is down to nothing :(
[08:02] <cox37777> is tehre a command to show current bandwidth usage with out having to install any softwarE?
[08:02] <awatson> cox37777: your network card should show that
[08:03] <cox37777> awatson: what would be the card mate?
[08:03] <cox37777> command*
[08:03] <awatson> sorry, i don't understand
[08:03] <awatson> oh, i don't know.  In KNetworkManager
[08:03] <awatson> i just hover over the card (Wired)
[08:03] <awatson> and it shows me statistics?
[08:17] <binks_> nice netsplit
[08:18] <binks_> anyone got jinzora working on fiesty
[08:18] <DexterF> hi
[08:18] <DexterF> inst'ed 7.04, rebooted, wanna type my username, nothing.
[08:18] <DexterF> mouse and keyb both dead.
[08:19] <DexterF> known issue?
[08:19] <binks_> DexterF: did they work on the live cd
[08:19] <DexterF> yup
[08:19] <LeeJunFan> where is the samba password file stored?
[08:19] <binks_> hmm cant help you there sorry
[08:22] <crookshanks> LeeJunFan: /etc/samba/smbpasswd i thought
[08:22] <crookshanks> nope, i'm wrong
[08:23] <rizoma> i'm trying to install ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools in console it tells me: readings pack list ok, depedency tree ok reading information ok end then cant finf ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools
[08:23] <LeeJunFan> crookshanks: yeah, I haven't had any luck finding it. It must be in the registry :p
[08:23] <rizoma> find sorry my bad english
[08:23] <refresh> when I resize the screen (say with ``krandrtray'') I sometimes get a black square artifact (around 50 by 50 pixels) in the top-left of the video. but the square is not really there. as soon as I try to take an image with ksnapshot, this artifact disappears.
[08:24] <stamen> hi
[08:24] <stamen> from where I can get DVM audio codec
[08:24] <stamen> !dvm
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <refresh> I don't know how to solve this square-artifact problem. however, if I could just learn what ksnapshot does to the screen then I would have a workaround.
[08:25] <refresh> I noticed that the screen doesn't change when you draw a region of text with ksnapshot. how does ksnapshot achieve this temporary screen-freeze?
[08:32] <michael> i'm having problems with my USB 2.0 external HD in kubuntu
[08:35] <leo__> !beryl
[08:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:39] <stamen> so does anybody knows what to install for DVM audio codec
[08:39] <stamen> :)
[08:39] <michael> does anyone know why my external USB HD is not automounting in kubuntu? my flash drive automounted and worked fine. I get the dialog asking me if i want to 'open in a new window' and i click ok, and there is no response
[08:40] <scotch1> wo bin ich
[08:40] <rizoma> michael:  same problem
[08:41] <FuriousGeorge> hey all.  i just plugged in a usb floppy.  it shows up under lsusb but isnt automatically mounted.  isnt that what is supposed to happen?
[08:42] <FuriousGeorge> i'd rather not mount it by hand constantly, but i dont quite know how to do it automatically in *buntui
[08:44] <chemist109> FuriousGeorge: My experience with floppy drives is that they show up as an icon on the desktop and you click them to mount the disk after inserting it.
[08:45] <FuriousGeorge> ok, so that isnt happening,  guess its no big deal
[08:47] <solifugus> Anyone: I installed the nvidia-glx-new package and did what it said to turn in on, now I cannot get X at all.. Can someone look and tell me what that command was again so I can turn it off?
[08:47] <solifugus> (kubuntu feisty fawn)
[08:47] <michael> rizoma: any idea how to fix it?
[08:47] <chemist109> solifugus: You need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <solifugus> chemist109: but there was a command to just "enable" and "disable"
[08:48] <chemist109> solifugus: Find the line that says "driver" and change that from nvidia to nv
[08:48] <chemist109> solifugus: that will get you back up and running long enough to fix things
[08:49] <solifugus> chemist109: ok.. rebooting thank
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[08:52] <chemist109> !ops
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[08:52] <OutoLumo_> Hih, all!
[08:52] <asincrono> that was a keyboard test? :)
[08:52] <nixternal> thanks chemist109
[08:52] <OutoLumo_> I have an issue...
[08:53] <chemist109> nixternal: NP
[08:53] <OutoLumo_> My laptop blanks screen instead of putting a screensaver on, which is not nice, since I use it as a clock as well...
[08:54] <OutoLumo_> Any ideas?
[08:54] <bobstro> OutoLumo_:  power saving setup is likely the culprit.
[08:54] <solifugus> chemist109: btw... changing "nvidia" to "nv" didn't work...  no X
[08:54] <jovans> where can i post my wish for more backports on feisty and greater
[08:54] <bobstro> System->Preferences->Power Management
[08:54] <jovans> ?
[08:55] <OutoLumo_> bobstro, I agree, but where to look for that?
[08:55] <bobstro> OutoLumo_:  i just told ya! :)
[08:56] <chemist109> solifugus: That's odd.  Are you sure that you have an Nvidia card?  You can try the vesa driver by replacing "nv" with "vesa".  Maybe you'd better pastebin your xorg log file.
[08:56] <bobstro> OutoLumo_:  or you could buy a watch i suppose. just check the blank screen settings.
[08:56] <OutoLumo_> bobstro, I've been looking for power saving settings from the System Settings for a while now.
[08:56] <bobstro> OutoLumo_:  wups. sorry, you're in kde.
[08:56] <michael> please help! my external USB HD is not automounting in kubuntu. my flash drive automounted and worked fine. for the HD I get the dialog asking me if i want to 'open in a new window' and i click ok, and there is no response
[08:56] <jack> hi there, i have a problem
[08:56] <bobstro> OutoLumo_:  er... they're in the settings somewhere, i don't have kde fired up right now to check.
[08:56] <OutoLumo_> bobstro, last I checked this channel was #kubuntu ... ;-)
[08:57] <bobstro> OutoLumo_:  yeah, sorry. i'm in both.
[08:57] <bobstro> OutoLumo_:  i've been using kde but am giving the gnome a shot.
[08:57] <jack> i installed wine a few minutes ago... started windows... linux again and now i have only 800 resolution
[08:57] <chemist109> OutoLumo_: system settings > monitor and display
[08:57] <jack> can anybody help me?
[08:57] <chemist109> OutoLumo_: you might need to do the administrator mode...
[08:57] <BlackBsd> How can i set up kubuntu to goot into a command line so i can startx into x?
[08:57] <BlackBsd> and give me a listing of the dmesg durring bootup
[08:57] <bobstro> chemist109:  is there an option in the screen saver settings too?
[08:57] <nbogdanoff> i was able to mount a smbfs without any errors , but when i go to list the files in the directory as root user, i get permission denied.
[08:58] <OutoLumo_> chemist109, there is some, but...
[08:58] <chemist109> bobstro: I don't think so.
[08:58] <alan_> Hi, I'm with problems! I have a laptop with a Intel Graphics i950 and using kubuntu 7.04
[08:58] <alan_> My screenshots are blue when there is some video on the screen
[08:58] <alan_> somebody could help me?
[08:59] <TheInfinity> alan_: thats not a graphics problem - you will find this in every OS with hardware rendering of videos
[08:59] <jack> i only have a resoltution of 800x600..... since i rebootet the computer. can anyone help me please?
[08:59] <OutoLumo_> chemist109, ... the only Power saving setting in there is "Enable Power saving" (which I haven't enabled) and under that a Switch off time for monitor.
[09:00] <alan_> but in kubuntu 6.10 this wasn't happening
[09:00] <bobstro> jack:  does ctrl-alt-+ do anything?
[09:01] <jack> bobstro: not really
[09:01] <jack> only switching the resolution.... but not getting better
[09:01] <alan_> does anyone have a problem like mine?
[09:01] <jack> my problem: i have only 800x600 as maximum in system settings... i think the problem is wine... i installed it a few minutes ago
[09:02] <michael> anyone have the same problem?
[09:02] <chemist109> alan_: what software are you using to view the video
[09:02] <alan_> mplayer, totem, kaffeine
[09:02] <OutoLumo_> or rather - kubuntu
[09:02] <alan_> all with the same problem... in screenshots, the video is blue
[09:03] <alan_> with no image
[09:03] <chemist109> jack: sounds like a problem with your xorg.conf file.  You could try to get kubuntu to regenerate it with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:03] <jack> chemist109: thx will try this.
[09:04] <chemist109> jack: Make a backup copy of xorg.conf first.
[09:04] <chemist109> Hope he got that
[09:04] <imagine> lol
[09:04] <imagine> gl to him
[09:04] <alan_> chemist109: I already tried this, but doesn't work.
[09:05] <jack> i always make a copy ;)
[09:05] <chemist109> jack: good!
[09:05] <jack> but where do i find the xorg.conf again???
[09:06] <chemist109> jack: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   I always do something like sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2007-05-07
[09:06] <Tm_T> OutoLumo_: howdy ho
[09:06] <alan_> oh, when I am using beryl and try to use transparency, the video screen got blue too
[09:06] <OutoLumo_> Tm_T, howdy. Trying to find some powersettings...
[09:06] <jack> k thx
[09:07] <BlackBsd> how do i get "desktop effects" to work in kubuntu?
[09:07] <BlackBsd> i dont see a menu
[09:07] <BlackBsd> item
[09:07] <^Paul^> Does anyone here know if there are feisty repositorys for beryl-svn as mentioned for edgy in this DIGG thread? http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/This_week_in_Beryl_Wall_plugin
[09:07] <BlackBsd> jsut install beryl?
[09:08] <chemist109> !effects
[09:08] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[09:08] <^Paul^> seems to me as if there are a way of using beryl at the sametime using Tv-Out.. So that one get a cube on the TV.. at this moment my background on the TV is black, meanwhile the mousecoursor is there
[09:08] <BlackBsd> thanks
[09:08] <^Paul^> ahh
[09:08] <chemist109> Hmmm.  Not exactly what I was trying...
[09:08] <^Paul^> thanks
[09:08] <^Paul^> okay
[09:11] <darkk^> Hello everyone. What is used as "sound system-ng" in 7.04? As far as I see, aRts is removed now.
[09:13] <darkk^> Is there some standart way to forward all (almost) sound to another machine over network now?
[09:13] <chemist109> darkk^: I hadn't even noticed that aRts is gone!
[09:13] <Tm_T> darkk^: removed?
[09:13] <darkk^> chemist109, I disabled it long long ago, but... now I have Rock-over-IP :)
[09:13] <darkk^> Tm_T, I've not found it in 7.04 packagelist
[09:14] <chemist109> There is a checkbox in system settings > sound system that says "Enable networked sound"
[09:14] <Tm_T> darkk^: well, its there
[09:14] <darkk^> Tm_T, I see now, I thought it's in kde section
[09:17] <BlackBsd> how do i start the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedDriversManager from kde?
[09:17] <BlackBsd> this page is blank
[09:18] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Try sudo restricted-manager
[09:18] <BlackBsd> thanks, i did not the the binary name
[09:18] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Is it installed?
[09:19] <BlackBsd> i dont know...
[09:19] <BlackBsd> i just installed kubuntu
[09:19] <BlackBsd> it was on ubuntu
[09:19] <chemist109> I don't think it's in the default install.  sudo aptitude install restricted-manager ought to do it.
[09:20] <BlackBsd> so ubuntu comes with programs, besides gnome, that kubuntu does not?
[09:21] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Some of the system management apps are different and some are simply not installed between the two.
[09:22] <chemist109> That didn't make a lot of sense...Let me try again.
[09:22] <BlackBsd> so, soem are gnome based and not on kubuntu
[09:22] <BlackBsd> i think i understane
[09:22] <BlackBsd> understand
[09:23] <chemist109> Some of the system management apps are different (e.g. kuser as a user manager for kde).  Some are not included by default in ubuntu.
[09:23] <chemist109> kubuntu, I mean.
[09:23] <BlackBsd> :-)
[09:23] <BlackBsd> how about a bluetooth program to use my bluetooth device?
[09:24] <BlackBsd> i cant beleive how much easier my stuff worked as opposed to gentoo...
[09:24] <sayers> it says "cannont find mime type applications/octet-stream"
[09:24] <BlackBsd> i got wireless working in like 2 min..
[09:25] <sayers> With everything I start up
[09:25] <BlackBsd> saysers, you can use the control center, file association to fix that
[09:25] <BlackBsd> under kde components
[09:25] <sayers> BlackBsd: can you run me through the steps
[09:25] <chemist109> BlackBsd: I believe that there is a KDE bluetooth program, but I don't have any bluetooth devices so I haven't used it.
[09:26] <BlackBsd> sayers type kcontrol from the command line
[09:27] <sayers> BlackBsd: Alright.
[09:28] <BlackBsd> go under kde components->file association
[09:28] <chemist109> BlackBsd: There's a bluetooth services section in kcontrol under internet and network.
[09:28] <BlackBsd> chemist109, sweet.
[09:28] <BlackBsd> i will try to see if it works
[09:28] <sayers> BlackBsd: Alright
[09:28] <BlackBsd> sayers; now there is a dropdown for applications
[09:28] <BlackBsd> i mean application
[09:29] <BlackBsd> you need to click on application
[09:29] <BlackBsd> then click the add button
[09:29] <BlackBsd> and set the group to be application  and the type name put "octet-stream"
[09:29] <sayers> Allright BlackBsd
[09:30] <BlackBsd> that message will go away
[09:30] <BlackBsd> and dont worry, you dont have to associate it with any application
[09:30] <Nuked> is there a channel on freenode devoted to the windows installer?
[09:30] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Good job with the mimetype thing.  Have you had that problem before?  Do you know what causes it?
[09:30] <BlackBsd> does anyone know how to have kubuntu, boot into a command line, as opposed to gui's
[09:30] <BlackBsd> yep
[09:31] <BlackBsd> i want to have to type startx to go into the gui
[09:31] <^Paul^> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:31] <chemist109> BlackBsd: I used to know, but I don't know what to do now that inittab is gone.
[09:31] <^Paul^> then alt+f1 to tty1
[09:31] <^Paul^> or something like that?
[09:31] <BlackBsd> how about getting a listing of the dmesg durring bootup?
[09:31] <khaije1> blackbsd: adjust the default runlevel to sub 5
[09:32] <fdoving> BlackBsd: go to /etc/rc2.d/ rename S99kdm to K99kdm
[09:32] <BlackBsd> cool.
[09:32] <chemist109> ^Paul^: I think he wants it to do that every time
[09:32] <BlackBsd> sayers, did that work for you?
[09:32] <^Paul^> I understood that.. but that might help him a bit.. :)
[09:32] <chemist109> fdoving: Duh, I should have thought of that!  Good
[09:32] <BlackBsd> thanks guys, you all are helpfull
[09:33] <fdoving> BlackBsd: for the dmesg, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove quiet and splash from the argumetns for each kernel.
[09:33] <GM04030276> how do you ajust the run level, i once did it in fedora but that was AGES ago!
[09:33] <BlackBsd> cant i set it up so i can hit f2 for the silent/verbose?
[09:33] <chemist109> GM04030276: We were just discussing that.
[09:34] <fdoving> BlackBsd: actually, you don't have to do that for each kernel, do it for the line '# defoptions=quiet splash
[09:34] <fdoving> '
[09:34] <fdoving> BlackBsd: change that line to '# defoptions=' then run 'sudo update-grub'
[09:35] <BlackBsd> fdoving, sorry, i dont understand?
[09:35] <fdoving> BlackBsd: note that the # should be at the start of that line. it is read anyhow.
[09:35] <BlackBsd> are you talking about the grub.conf file?
[09:35] <GM04030276>    fdoving: BlackBsd: go to /etc/rc2.d/ rename S99kdm to K99kdm
[09:35] <dwidmann> BlackBsd: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:35] <fdoving> BlackBsd: yes, it's name is menu.lst in ubuntu.
[09:35] <BlackBsd> GM0403*  sorry i am still trying to follow the notes from above..
[09:36] <BlackBsd> they are moving pretty fast... :-)
[09:37] <khaije1> gm04-: have you read the init manual?
[09:37] <alexander_> !de
[09:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:40] <Cnl_Delta> hi, whats the best download manager for kubuntu feisty
[09:41] <fdoving> Cnl_Delta: kget or d4x. d4x is gtk based though.
[09:41] <nobuddy> ntu
[09:42] <Cnl_Delta> kget it is
[09:43] <nobuddy> I can't see my buddies in the buddy list. Any idea what the problem is?
[09:44] <nobuddy> the buddies _are_ listed in ~/.gaim/blist.xml
[09:47] <BlackBsd> GM0403*  by renaming that file, aint i just renaming that file so it dont get run?
[09:48] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Yeah, putting the K in front changes it from (S)tart to (K)ill for that service.
[09:48] <compilerwriter> Somehow or another my audio has gotten screwed up.  Anyone able to help me get it sorted?
[09:48] <chemist109> KDM is the KDE graphical login manager
[09:48] <yonkeltron> indeed
[09:49] <BlackBsd> ok, so just renaming it, will boot me to a command line, where i will have to type startx
[09:49] <BlackBsd> sweet, thanks
[09:49] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Yeah, that's what it should do.
[09:49] <BlackBsd> is there a tool that will tell me what services are on the system and what ones are starting up?
[09:49] <BlackBsd> and at what runlevel
[09:50] <ward_> whats a nice xml editor for linux ?
[09:50] <BlackBsd> ward_ eclipse?  vim??
[09:50] <dwidmann> kate seems to be a nice editor for just about anything
[09:50] <Cnl_Delta> hmm how can i see what wget is downloading
[09:50] <Cnl_Delta> at the terminal kget doesn't seem to say much
[09:50] <chemist109> BlackBsd: You can look in the rcX.d (where X is 0 to 6) directories under /etc.
[09:51] <dac_> jisao,hello
[09:51] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Under Feisty, runlevels have sorta gone away.  Feisty uses upstart instead of init to start the system.
[09:52] <BlackBsd> hmm, upstart..  no man upstart
[09:52] <BlackBsd> is that a gui program
[09:52] <BlackBsd> or a new rc system
[09:53] <ward_> no i need something with hotkeys, DTD's etc ...
[09:53] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Not a gui.  It's sort of like the rc system.  It uses the rc system for legacy apps.
[09:53] <BlackBsd> is that a ubuntu thing or debian?
[09:53] <BlackBsd> i assume there is docs on it?
[09:53] <dwidmann> ubuntu, not debian
[09:55] <chemist109> BlackBsd: There's documentation on the web.  You can look into /etc/event.d and see some stuff too.
[09:55] <dwidmann> BlackBsd: probably some stuff to read on launchpad.net and the ubuntu wiki/community docs
[09:55] <ward_> how can i check the encoding used when i create files with kate  ?
[09:55] <chemist109> BlackBsd: The event.d directory is the current replacement for inittab
[09:56] <dwidmann> ward_: tools -> encoding
[09:56] <BlackBsd> chemist109, im not used to inittab either, i am a gentoo user.
[09:57] <BlackBsd> i was used to rc-update
[09:57] <BlackBsd> but i will read up on it
[09:57] <BlackBsd> thatnks
[09:57] <jack> chemist109: thank you! rebuild the xorg.conf and it works fine!
[09:57] <dwidmann> blackbsd: should still be able to play with things with update-rc.d
[09:57] <dwidmann> (If I remember correctly ...)
[09:58] <chemist109> jack: You're welcome.  I'm glad it works!
[09:58] <jack> ok bye bye
[09:58] <K-Ryan> !adeptcrash
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <K-Ryan> !adept
[09:58] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:58] <K-Ryan> !adeptfix
[09:58] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:59] <BlackBsd> does anyone have beryl running?  with the wobbaly windows and such?
[10:00] <K-Ryan> What's up?
[10:00] <K-Ryan> You might want to try...
[10:00] <K-Ryan> !beryl
[10:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:01] <chemist109> BlackBsd: I played with Beryl for a day or two.  Everything worked and it was cool and all but it got distracting after a while.  I prefer the default ingerface
[10:01] <BlackBsd> i installed it, i have the menu item, but the visuals are not running..
[10:01] <ward_> dwidmann: thx
[10:01] <OutoLumo_> ANyone has any ideas about my powersaver problem?
[10:01] <BlackBsd> in ubuntu i selected a menu item called "desktop effects"
[10:01] <dwidmann> BlackBsd: I played with it ... but I find I prefer kwin.
[10:02] <BlackBsd> i think everything is installed, i must have to start a service or something
[10:03] <dwidmann> BlackBsd: at the very least you probably have to restart x
[10:03] <dwidmann> perhaps
[10:03] <K-Ryan> Did you start Beryl?
[10:03] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Start beryl-manager
[10:03] <chemist109> that is, type: beryl-manager
[10:06] <BlackBsd> ok, i dont have that binary, so im going to try installing beryl-kubuntu
[10:06] <BlackBsd> i used adept manager, and installed beryl
[10:06] <BlackBsd> and dep's
[10:06] <BlackBsd> dependencies
[10:12] <BlackBsd> the kubuntu install figured out i had gentoo on the system, so it named it correctly in my grub.conf file. :-)
[10:13] <BlackBsd> chemist109, what program is needed to get the beryl-manager binary?
[10:14] <chemist109> BlackBsd: I think just aptitude install beryl-manager
[10:14] <Jacko2007> hello
[10:14] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Then configure it with the gui
[10:14] <Jacko2007> I got a quick question how do I sllow write access to a folder in console
[10:15] <BlackBsd> thanks, it was not in adept gui..
[10:15] <BlackBsd> but its comming in now
[10:15] <BlackBsd> yep, got it now... sweet, thanks :-)
[10:16] <BlackBsd> that would of took some time in the other distro..
[10:16] <chemist109> It's in my kmenu under system
[10:17] <chemist109> Be sure to get aquamarine for beryl.  This will allow you to use your native kde window decorations.
[10:17] <chemist109> sudo aptitude install aquamarine
[10:17] <Jacko2007> I got a quick question how do I sllow write access to a folder in console
[10:18] <BlackBsd> jacko, chmod  777 ./folder
[10:18] <chemist109> Jacko2007: write access for whom?  User, group, or everyone.
[10:18] <BlackBsd> if you dont own it then use sudo
[10:18] <Jacko2007> everyone
[10:18] <BlackBsd> 777 for everyone
[10:19] <linux__> hi
[10:19] <chemist109> Jacko2007: or sudo chmod a+w /path/to/folder
[10:19] <compilerwriter> !audio
[10:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:19] <Jacko2007> operation not permitted?
[10:19] <BlackBsd> jacko2007, chmod  777 ./folder
[10:20] <Jacko2007> forgot the sudo bit lol
[10:20] <chemist109> Jacko2007: use sudo:   sudo chmod a+w /path/to/folder
[10:20] <BlackBsd> :-P
[10:20] <Jacko2007> lol @ chemist lol
[10:21] <BlackBsd> actually i think the a+w is different than 777
[10:21] <BlackBsd> so yours is probally better
[10:22] <Jacko2007> I have done 777
[10:22] <raphael_> ich hab probleme
[10:22] <K-Ryan> raphael_ what language?
[10:22] <chemist109> BlackBsd: I've been running beryl for the last 10 minutes.  Still cool.  Still distracting :)
[10:22] <BlackBsd> so a means all 'user, group, other' and w means write
[10:22] <chemist109> !de | raphael
[10:23] <ubotu> raphael: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:23] <K-Ryan> damn, i was gonna give 'em the !de
[10:23] <K-Ryan> but i wasnt sure if thats what he was speaking...
[10:23] <PhinnFort> he was speaking very bad german, imho;)
[10:24] <chemist109> I took german in high school.  I can talk about pencils and tables, but that's about it.
[10:24] <K-Ryan> fluent in spanish here, but thats it
[10:24] <PhinnFort> ich bin eine kartoffelkndel
[10:24] <BlackBsd> chemist109, do i have to start, aquamarine?
[10:24] <BlackBsd> my language is C
[10:24] <K-Ryan> Okay, sorry to break up the fun but we're going to get yelled at for being offtopic =P
[10:24] <PhinnFort> i know some spanish AND german;)
[10:24] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Nope. just beryl-manager
[10:24] <BlackBsd> :-)
[10:25] <K-Ryan> =P
[10:25] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: beryl-manager is really neat
[10:25] <BlackBsd> what is adept notifier?
[10:25] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: it notifies about package updates
[10:26] <chemist109> BlackBsd: right click the beryl-manager icon and select window decorator > aquamarine
[10:26] <chemist109> BlackBsd: Yeah, I had problems with that popping out of the system tray too.
[10:26] <PhinnFort> chemist109: i think it's because it's supposed to stay hidden from the tray
[10:27] <PhinnFort> chemist109: it worked properly in the latest versions of beryl
[10:27] <PhinnFort> for me anyways, before I switched to compiz
[10:27] <BlackBsd> the icon in my task tray?
[10:27] <chemist109> PhinnFort: I always had it pop up in the upper left corner of the screen.
[10:27] <BlackBsd> i dont have a window decorator > menu
[10:27] <PhinnFort> chemist109: me too, until a couple of beryl versions ago
[10:27] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: right clicky the red diamondy thingy?
[10:28] <BlackBsd> nm i got it.
[10:28] <compilerwriter> phinnFort I am having issues with my sound can you help me debug it?
[10:28] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: maybe;)
[10:28] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: i'm loosing my internet connection in about ~half an hour, so be quick;)
[10:29] <compilerwriter> phinnfort I loaded an audiocd and it showed up on my desktop, but I can't manage to get it to play.
[10:29] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: tried amarok?
[10:29] <compilerwriter> I am trying it now phinnfort
[10:29] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: it could be that your sound card and cd-rom isn't physically connected (there's a specific cable for it), but I'm not sure if it's needed
[10:30] <PhinnFort> Engage -> Play Audio-CD, i think
[10:30] <PhinnFort> (i'm on norwegian locale)
[10:30] <compilerwriter> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.
[10:30] <compilerwriter> audiocd:/Carreras Domingo Pavarotti - 01 - Il lamento di Federico %252F Carreras.wav
[10:30] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: weird...
[10:30] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: try opening "audiocd:/" in konqueror
[10:31] <chemist109> compilerwriter: Do you have more than one optical drive?
[10:31] <compilerwriter> I have two optical drives phinnfort and chemist109
[10:31] <chemist109> compilerwriter: try the other one.
[10:31] <compilerwriter> I have tried both drives chemist109 and phinnfort
[10:32] <K-Ryan> Not getting a response in the effects channel so I'll ask quickly here.
[10:32] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: did you manage to open "audiocd:/" in Konqueror?
[10:32] <compilerwriter> I clicked on it and it said can not read.
[10:32] <K-Ryan> Would a 1.8Ghz processor, 25MB graphics card, 512MB RAM support beryl?
[10:32] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: if you go to "media:/" then?
[10:32] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: depends on the GFX-card, but I believe it should
[10:32] <K-Ryan> ***256MB graphics
[10:32] <K-Ryan> It's a GeForce 6600
[10:33] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: it runs here, same specs, only an ATI Radeon with 128mb vram
[10:33] <K-Ryan> Alright then, should work here.
[10:33] <K-Ryan> Thanks
[10:33] <sredna> the current digikam package crashes when i try to use the 'email images' feature
[10:33] <sredna> a sig 11
[10:33] <PhinnFort> sredna: file a bug
[10:33] <sredna> where?
[10:34] <PhinnFort> bugs.launchpad.net
[10:34] <PhinnFort> and bugs.kde.org
[10:34] <PhinnFort> or just one place
[10:34] <sredna> it is unlikely to be a kde problem
[10:34] <sredna> package incompability
[10:34] <compilerwriter> phinnfort it shows up as scd1 and I can open it.
[10:34] <K-Ryan> alright beryl is working
[10:35] <PhinnFort> sredna: how so?
[10:35] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: :D
[10:35] <K-Ryan> but umm the top bar of all my windows disapeared
[10:35] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: can you try to rip it?
[10:35] <K-Ryan> I can't X out, minimize, or move stuff
[10:35] <K-Ryan> From that top bar anyway
[10:35] <BlackBsd> that adept notifier claimes there are no updates needed, yet it stays on my desktop
[10:35] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: alt+click?
[10:35] <BlackBsd> can i get rid of it
[10:35] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: because of Beryl
[10:36] <K-Ryan> Oooo
[10:36] <K-Ryan> Thanks for that
[10:36] <nomin> are there any developers in here that would be interested in packaging qjoypad?  It's a program that let's you emulate the mouse and keyboard with a joystick.  there is no program in the ubuntu repos that do this and the developer of qjoypad isn't working on it anymore.
[10:36] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: works not just in beryl
[10:36] <K-Ryan> I'm just dragging windows around right now
[10:36] <K-Ryan> This is so cool...
[10:36] <PhinnFort> nomin: better luck in #ubuntu-motu, i believe
[10:36] <PhinnFort> nomin: but if it's abandoned i doubt it
[10:37] <nomin> PhinnFort: I'll ask in there anyway.
[10:37] <PhinnFort> do it;)
[10:37] <nomin> I can't be the only one that uses a gamepad to emulate the mouse
[10:37] <K-Ryan> And the switching things to different desktops
[10:37] <K-Ryan> awesome
[10:37] <compilerwriter> phinnfort k3b is trying to rip it now.
[10:38] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: rather try kaudiocreator, or at least it's my personal preference;)
[10:38] <compilerwriter> phinnfort I don't have it installed at moment.  I will go get it later.
[10:39] <PhinnFort> ok
[10:39] <compilerwriter> phinnfort actually I do have it.
[10:39] <compilerwriter> will give it a shot now.
[10:39] <PhinnFort> i have set it to automatically rip any audio cd's i insert
[10:39] <PhinnFort> really nifty
[10:40] <compilerwriter> phinnfort it gave me some crap about no encoder selected.
[10:40] <compilerwriter> afk for a few seconds
[10:40] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: hit alt+f2, kcontrol
[10:41] <K-Ryan> Okay so how do I change the beryl theme?
[10:41] <K-Ryan> I'm in theme settings but I see no "apply" button when I pick something new
[10:41] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: you using emerald or aquamarine?
[10:41] <K-Ryan> emerald
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> just click on it and it should change
[10:42] <compilerwriter> did that phinnfort what next
[10:42] <TheDebugger> Anyone is able to get album arts on song transfered from amarok to an ipod?
[10:42] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: use the beryl theme manager
[10:42] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: i believe it's under "Settings" in the K-Menu
[10:42] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: sound & multimedia
[10:42] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: audio cd's, i believe
[10:42] <K-Ryan> Lemme try that because clicking stuff in this isn't doin' it
[10:43] <compilerwriter> mad it that far phinnfort
[10:43] <Daisuke_Ido> PhinnFort: "emerald theme manager" and it is under settings
[10:43] <PhinnFort> yeah, whatever;)
[10:43] <compilerwriter> made it hat far I mean phinnfort
[10:43] <K-Ryan> err, that's what I was in
[10:43] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: and things weren't changing as you clicked on themes?
[10:43] <K-Ryan> nope
[10:43] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: what is the cdrom device?
[10:43] <compilerwriter> I just ticked /dev/cdrom
[10:44] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure you're using emerald (under choose window decorator in beryl-manager)
[10:44] <BlackBsd> any windows users here.
[10:44] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: try ##windows
[10:44] <K-Ryan> Unfortunately, yes =)
[10:44] <aldin> how could i check k/ubuntu CD for defects from KDE/GNOME (withoud rebooting)
[10:44] <K-Ryan> PhinnFort his question might be related to both
[10:44] <Daisuke_Ido> BlackBsd: are you satan?  or did he just send you? :P
[10:44] <compilerwriter> Phinnfort I just ticked /dev/cdrom
[10:44] <K-Ryan> Just ya' know
[10:44] <K-Ryan> Oh come on guys
[10:44] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: does it work now?
[10:44] <K-Ryan> He's obviously trying to get away from it
[10:45] <Daisuke_Ido> true
[10:45] <Daisuke_Ido> probably
[10:45] <BlackBsd> no, i was just going to complain about it breifly.
[10:45] <K-Ryan> Windows manager is beryl
[10:45] <K-Ryan> Join the club
[10:45] <K-Ryan> We've got jackets =)
[10:45] <BlackBsd> like window focus follows the mouse,  this just isnt available in windows
[10:45] <compilerwriter> phinnfort says no audio cd detected.
[10:46] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: can you paste the output of "dmesg | tail" into #flood?
[10:46] <K-Ryan> You know there's...
[10:46] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <compilerwriter> phinnfort let me try again I forgot to apply changes.
[10:46] <BlackBsd> i havent used it in years, and i was exposed to vista today...   and shit, without the focus follows mouse feature, i dont see how vista is useable.
[10:46] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: but it's easier for shorter pastes
[10:46] <K-Ryan> I suppose
[10:46] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: you poor thing;)
[10:46] <compilerwriter> phinnfort will be pasting in a second
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> BlackBsd: i'm so sorrt
[10:47] <BlackBsd> actually, i can see why windows ppl get artheritis now
[10:47] <PhinnFort> noone should be exposed to vista for more that a couple of hours at a time
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, too
[10:47] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: lol
[10:47] <BlackBsd> so many right click milage
[10:47] <K-Ryan> I know why I'm going to have arthritis
[10:47] <K-Ryan> Ever been to www.clickclickclick.com ?
[10:47] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: yeah, and we have kmouse
[10:47] <PhinnFort> :D
[10:47] <PhinnFort> !info kmouse
[10:47] <ubotu> Package kmouse does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:47] <K-Ryan> Let's just say the US had a good 10k clicks from me during one of the rounds...
[10:48] <PhinnFort> or something
[10:48] <K-Ryan> PhinnFort it detects repeted clicks if the timing is the same
[10:48] <PhinnFort> !info kmousetool
[10:48] <K-Ryan> My friend tried it
[10:48] <compilerwriter> just pated it phinnfort
[10:48] <PhinnFort> well, add some randomization
[10:48] <ubotu> kmousetool: KDE mouse manipulation tool for the disabled. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 70 kB, installed size 348 kB
[10:48] <K-Ryan> Yeah yeah, but I don't wanna get caught.
[10:48] <BlackBsd> k-ryan, rofl, that site is funny
[10:48] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: are you sure there's a cdrom in the drive?
[10:48] <K-Ryan> Someone added 50 million clicks for Denmark...
[10:48] <PhinnFort> lol
[10:48] <K-Ryan> Took about a day, but they got caught
[10:48] <BlackBsd> and the US is 21st...
[10:48] <K-Ryan> There are different rounds
[10:48] <PhinnFort> hehe, we're 13th
[10:48] <PhinnFort> norway
[10:49] <K-Ryan> The one I played we were constantly 3rd and 2nd eventually
[10:49] <BlackBsd> ppl have lots of time on their hands
[10:49] <BlackBsd> how bout scripting it ot click there??
[10:49] <K-Ryan> I spent about an hour just doing that one night
[10:49] <PhinnFort> or scripting it to submit
[10:49] <K-Ryan> It was 12:30-1:30 and I was bored
[10:49] <K-Ryan> My friend was over too
[10:49] <K-Ryan> So him, my brother, and me all did that
[10:49] <compilerwriter> phinnfort I was sure there was one in the drive, but I guess k3b kicked the drive open
[10:49] <K-Ryan> Anyways...
[10:50] <compilerwriter> lol
[10:50] <PhinnFort> "<FONT size="2"><B>Please note:</B> This site is not suitable for using scripts. If you use scripts then<BR>you will be banned, and your country's results may be subject to penalty.<BR><EM>Play fair and have fun!</EM></FONT>"
[10:50] <BlackBsd> http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070506/481/8987ce214cae465496bd081c74692131   ewww,  NSFW
[10:50] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: ;)
[10:50] <BlackBsd> i feel sick
[10:50] <BlackBsd> some of thoes butts are saggin to the floor
[10:50] <compilerwriter> phinnfort btw k3b says it successfully ripped the cd.  Should I not be able to just play the damned things though?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: try playing it again?
[10:51] <hyper_ch> what's the best way to run a manual fsck on the /-partition?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: a livecd
[10:51] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: i'm not sure if the initrd contains enough to run it
[10:52] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: then I'm downloading the livecd now
[10:52] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: but you could try to pass "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel
[10:52] <compilerwriter> phinnfort amorak still can't play it.
[10:52] <PhinnFort> :(
[10:52] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: you know, I just re-setup my computer yesterday - so I formated the /-partition... but upon first boot it made a check and fsck died with some errors or something
[10:53] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: doesn't sound good
[10:53] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: didn't it drop you to a root shell?
[10:53] <PhinnFort> it should do that, afaik
[10:53] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: well, everhing seems to run fine
[10:53] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: nope, it rebooted
[10:54] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: well, then it probably fixed it
[10:54] <compilerwriter> well thanks for trying phinnfort
[10:54] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: just wanna run it manually to check :)
[10:54] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: I just rip my music
[10:54] <hyper_ch> compilerwriter: what do you try to do?
[10:54] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: well, a livecd is the easiest
[10:55] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: will do so
[10:55] <hyper_ch> 30% downloaded :)
[10:55] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:56] <tdn> Does anyone use LUKS for encrypted disks/swap? I get this error when trying to do a luksFormat: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P525.html
[10:56] <Graham> Hey guys, what's the kubuntu-desktop package and what does it do? I'm wanting to remove KPPP and KNetworkManager because I don't use them and it want sot remove that too.
[10:57] <hyper_ch> tdn: I use dm-crypt/LUKS partitions
[10:57] <Sanne> Graham: it's just a metapackage
[10:57] <PhinnFort> Graham: it just makes sure you have all the default KDE packages
[10:57] <PhinnFort> */Kubuntu
[10:57] <PhinnFort> Graham: just delete it until next distro upgrade (to gutsy)
[10:57] <PhinnFort> !gutsy
[10:57] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[10:57] <Sanne> Graham: it means it depends on a lot of stuff that gets installed automatically, but contains no programm itself
[10:57] <K-Ryan> Gutsy Gibbon?
[10:58] <Sanne> Graham: install it again when you upgrade
[10:58] <hyper_ch> tdn: no clue... for me it runs just fine
[10:58] <K-Ryan> These names are getting stranger and stranger...
[10:58] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:58] <PhinnFort> http://www.impendingdoom.com/
[10:58] <tdn> hyper_ch, ok :(
[10:59] <PhinnFort> hyper_ch: maybe a tad bit early?;)
[10:59] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: been using feisty since herd3... I liked the daily updates :)
[10:59] <PhinnFort> well, I kind of miss them too
[10:59] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: that just made me feel it is being worked on :)
[10:59] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:59] <PhinnFort> but my desktop is so well-working now, so I don't feel like breaking anything;)
[10:59] <hyper_ch> except for the one kernel update that rendered my wifi unusable :)
[11:00] <PhinnFort> lol
[11:00] <hyper_ch> PhinnFort: well, making a bug report (wasn't the only one) and less than 24h later it was fixed
[11:00] <LordAnakin> Good night!
[11:01] <K-Ryan> G'night LordAnakin
[11:01] <hyper_ch> I think the the problem was from 2.6.20-11 to -12
[11:01] <hyper_ch> good night LordAnakin
[11:04] <hyper_ch> every week I discover a new cool app :) last week it was htop... this week it is apt-file :)
[11:04] <Karti> Hi again, is there a way to view disk sizes using the GUI, as in My Computer in Windows?
[11:05] <hyper_ch> Karti: qtparted
[11:05] <hyper_ch> Karti: but I prefer "df -l"
[11:06] <frojnd> hello there
[11:06] <hyper_ch> hansen: what kind of support?
[11:07] <hansen> I ran the upgrade wizard, but it crashed half way through
[11:07] <hyper_ch> !backport
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <hyper_ch> hansen: and now?
[11:07] <hansen> after that I ran dpkg --configure -a
[11:07] <hansen> and then adept_manager a few times more
[11:07] <navid> Hey
[11:07] <Karti> hyper_ch: df -l is perfect - cheers
[11:07] <frojnd> how can I change resolution to 1240*1024 cause there is no that kinda option in my xorg.conf even though that resolution is recommended to my monitor...
[11:08] <hansen> and it seems that the system is upgraded to feisty
[11:08] <hansen> but I didn't dare to reboot yet
[11:08] <hyper_ch> Karti: qtparted would be the partitioner for qt and also display sizes... but I think it's overkill to check the sizes :)
[11:08] <Sanne> Karti: also try df -h
[11:08] <freshmeat> Guys -- I installed KDE a while ago on Gnome, but want it removed now.
[11:08] <freshmeat> How would this be possible?
[11:08] <hansen> any idea what the upgrade wizard is doing in the "clean up" step?
[11:08] <hansen> because it surely didn't get to that part
[11:09] <hansen> any way to run that step manually?
[11:09] <hyper_ch> hansen: it deletes stuff that was added during the install... that's normal
[11:09] <hyper_ch> hansen: do you have ubuntu on a cd for re-install?
[11:09] <hyper_ch> freshmeat: how did you install it?
[11:09] <hansen> I have an edgy CD, but didn't care to make a feisty one
[11:09] <frojnd> I wanna have resolution: 1280 x 1024  how can I do that in xorg ?'
[11:10] <hyper_ch> hansen: well, in case the pc won't come up again you can re-install :) that's why I asked :)
[11:10] <freshmeat> hyper_ch: I downloaded it from konsole.
[11:10] <intelikey> freshmeat check /var/log/dpkg.log and find the list of packages that installed with kde
[11:10] <hansen> I'm backing up /home now before rebooting, and if it's dead I can burn a CD on my laptop
[11:10] <hyper_ch> hansen: or you could download the feisty cd just to be sure :)
[11:10] <hyper_ch> hansen: you don't have /home on a seperate partition?
[11:10] <Karti> Sanne: -f is better as it simplifies it more - cheers
[11:11] <hansen> hyper_ch: no, not anymore -- I have a backup HD instead that I just tar stuff to
[11:11] <Sanne> Karti: cool
[11:11] <hyper_ch> hansen: why tar?
[11:11] <hansen> because it does incremental backups. better backup software would be welcome of course
[11:11] <intelikey> freshmeat depending on your setup.  subdir maybe.
[11:12] <hyper_ch> hansen
[11:12] <intelikey> hyper_ch can't hardlink accross fs's tho
[11:12] <hansen> anyway, I just want to know if there is leftover stuff from the upgrade filling up my hd because I didn't get thru the clean up step
[11:12] <frojnd> I wanna have resolution: 1280 x 1024  how can I do that in xorg ?'
[11:12] <hyper_ch> hansen: you can have a look at my backup script :) fairly simply but (I think) effectiv
[11:13] <hyper_ch> hansen: dunno about that clean up step.. I only upgraded one machine from edgy to feisty and that worked out-of-the-box
[11:13] <dwidmann> frojnd: you can do that by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", make sure to select 1280x1024 when you're at that part
[11:14] <hansen> it still puzzles me why the upgrade failed to horribly. I upgraded my wife's laptop without any problems at all. Only major diff is that her laptop is x86 and my desktop is x86_64
[11:14] <frojnd> dwidmann: any other option, cause when I do that my keybord gets all messed up, I tryed that a few times but I don't wanna to do it again..
[11:15] <dwidmann> frojnd: well, yes and no at the same time
[11:15] <frojnd> gimme yes dwidmann
[11:15] <hyper_ch> hmm, is truecrypt in automatix?
[11:15] <LjL> !automatix
[11:15] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:16] <intelikey> >>> modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting genrtc (/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/kernel/drivers/char/genrtc.ko): Device or resource busy
[11:16] <dwidmann> frojnd: you can back up your xorg.conf, run that, and then modify your backup to be like the new with regards to the resolution and leaving everything else alone
[11:16] <dwidmann> frojnd: then of course, restore the modified backup
[11:16] <dwidmann> (full path to the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:16] <intelikey> why would "ntpdate pool.ntp.org"   cause that ^ ?
[11:16] <hyper_ch> LjL: do you know the answer?
[11:16] <frojnd> dwidmann: even if I leve everythih else alone, my keybord won't recognize ...
[11:17] <frojnd> live*
[11:17] <enotee> whats the best app to synch a palm treo 650
[11:17] <LjL> hyper_ch: no, and if i knew i wouldn't tell you. there is an automatix channel if you still want to use it despite sanity. there are encryption programs available in the repos.
[11:17] <hyper_ch> enotee: tried kpilot?
[11:17] <intelikey> i checked  /usr/sbin/ntpdate   it's ELF 32-bit LSB executable   so it shouldn't be calling modprobe i wouldn't think.
[11:18] <intelikey> anyone ?
[11:18] <hyper_ch> LjL: have I said I want to use it? I just wondered whether it's in automatix... because someone had it in some repos and I just wondered what those might be as I have quite a few...
[11:18] <kiwi__> does anyone know how to configure kmail for hotmail
[11:18] <kiwi__> ??
[11:18] <hansen> intelikey: genrtc.ko sounds like "Real Time Clock" to me
[11:19] <intelikey> hansen yes  but why is modprobe being called ?
[11:19] <hansen> intelikey: strace -f ntpdate ...
[11:19] <intelikey> Package udev is not installed
[11:20] <hyper_ch> has k3b problems in feisty?
[11:20] <LjL> hyper_ch: don't know about any repository, but a .deb for Ubuntu is available straight from their site
[11:20] <hyper_ch> LjL: thx
[11:20] <K-Ryan> Hey guys my panel thing isn't working.
[11:20] <K-Ryan> Let me explain...
[11:21] <hyper_ch> hmmm, k3b is pressing my computer very hard and a lot of disk access is performed but I don't see any progress bar so the like
[11:21] <K-Ryan> I've got Beryl running and if I scroll over stuff, it shows the preview like normal. But if I click on the name of the window, the window doesn't pop up.
[11:21] <intelikey> hansen  what am i looking for?   no mention of modprobe in there
[11:22] <K-Ryan> Did I mess something up with Beryl?
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> kiwi__: might want to check the documentation for kmail
[11:23] <hansen> intelikey: does it open any funny devices?
[11:23] <intelikey> no not really
[11:26] <intelikey> no devices at all
[11:26] <intelikey> only a few config files and lib or three
[11:26] <hansen> intelikey: my system doesn't have that genrtc module loaded, even after running ntpdate
[11:27] <intelikey> module name is   rtc
[11:27] <hansen> lsmod|grep rtc says nothing
[11:28] <intelikey> so why does this system load it ?    and that's the command being called,  i dubble checked.    "ntpdate pool.ntp.org"
[11:29] <intelikey> try    "hwclock --systohc "   si if it loads it ?
[11:30] <Lars_G> Question, is kde 4 svn daily pull somehow easier to compile on Feisty? I mean, are the qt4 libraries and dev files for example kde 4 ready? so that I don't suffer as much making a compiling setup?
[11:31] <onlineapps> hey, anyone know if kde desktop sharing can create a java server like winvnc
[11:31] <intelikey> that's it   got it.    there was a function defined that called a   hwclock command if the update was successful....    ok sorry to trubble you.
[11:31] <Lars_G> the server is still afaik a simple vnc server onlineapps
[11:31] <intelikey> hansen ^   ty.
[11:32] <Lars_G> what the other "creates" is an http server with an html file inside with the Java VNC client embedded in it.
[11:32] <onlineapps> Lars_G: problem is, not all the computers I use to connect to my desktop have a vnc client
[11:32] <onlineapps> Lars_G: how do I do that?
[11:32] <Lars_G> which should not be TOO hard to make with kde's Personal File Server
[11:32] <Lars_G> Basically you need to find the APPLET java client, it might/should come with a html example on how to embed it in a page.
[11:33] <onlineapps> APPLET client for what?
[11:33] <Lars_G> you could then for example create a kde PFS, copy the html and .jar files there in a dir, and use it from there
[11:33] <Lars_G> VNC
[11:33] <onlineapps> ok
[11:33] <hansen> intelikey: hwclock works and did not cause any rtc module to be loaded
[11:33] <Lars_G> Ok I gtg now. sigh, see you all latter
[11:33] <K-Ryan> See ya'
[11:36] <intelikey> hansen it does on this system.    that's what was doing it.    i  modprobe -r rtc ;whclock --systohw    and bang. there's the error message again.
[11:37] <hansen> strange
[11:37] <intelikey> s/;wh/;hw/
[11:37] <hansen> what kind of system is it?
[11:38] <intelikey> the module gets inserted ok but it errors trying the other module first  "genrtc"
[11:38] <intelikey> kind ?    hw specs ?   or sw ?
[11:38] <hansen> mine is "2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Tue Mar 13 22:06:20 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux" -- until a few minutes when it hopefully is able to reboot into feisty :)
[11:38] <chemist109> intelikey: can you blacklist genrtc?
[11:38] <hansen> I was thinking hw -- maybe you have some funny rtc device?
[11:39] <intelikey> chemist109 could. but easier to add rtc to the /etc/modules and be done with it.
[11:39] <intelikey> hansen yeah.   box is 12 years old.
[11:39] <chemist109> intelikey: Yes, but will it still try to insert genrtc first?
[11:40] <intelikey> chemist109 no.
[11:41] <stealthy> Alrighty, is it possible to share files over cat5 cable with a windows desktop?
[11:41] <stealthy> I did it with my desk/lap with both windows, but not sure how to go about it with one on linux
[11:41] <intelikey> hansen we were also comparing apples and bananas there.  you are running 64 bit
[11:42] <hansen> right
[11:42] <intelikey> !samba
[11:42] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:42] <PhinnFort> stealthy: crossover cable?
[11:43] <stealthy> pretty much
[11:43] <manta> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IHsGlV2k3aM
[11:43] <PhinnFort> stealthy: tried "File Sharing"?
[11:43] <PhinnFort> :P
[11:43] <manta> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IHsGlV2k3aM
[11:43] <intelikey> manta don't do that.
[11:43] <stealthy> PhinnFort, uhm... where is it on this?
[11:44] <stealthy> I know wher eon windows
[11:44] <PhinnFort> stealthy: System Settings -> File Sharing
[11:44] <stealthy> SMB and NFS? samba an dnetwork file system?
[11:45] <PhinnFort> samba would work with Windows, yes
[11:45] <K-Ryan> PhinnFort, not that I want to get rid of you, but didn't you have to leave in a half hour about an hour ago? =P
[11:45] <ijacek> !cz
[11:45] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:45] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: I managed to evade the school-wide disconnect;)
[11:45] <K-Ryan> Nice =P
[11:46] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:46] <sayers> The Docking Tray is really long , can I make it auto-shorten its self some how
[11:46] <PhinnFort> sayers: you mean kicker?
[11:46] <intelikey> sayers suto hide some of it's apps
[11:46] <PhinnFort> right click on it, and customize
[11:47] <intelikey> PhinnFort i think he's talking about systray in kicker
[11:47] <intelikey> same answer    right click
[11:47] <sayers> intelikey: Suo
[11:47] <PhinnFort> sayers: you can make the whole kicker bigger/higher, so they go double up
[11:48] <sayers> suto*?
[11:48] <sayers> PhinnFort, Over where the time is...
[11:48] <sayers> PhinnFort: Made it bigger and that worked
[11:48] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:49] <intelikey> sayers  you can also set it to hide select apps   "like windows does"
[11:49] <ijacek> why add this channel to gaim ? :)
[11:49] <PhinnFort> intelikey: but why hide them?
[11:49] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:49] <wayl> en espaol alguien
[11:49] <PhinnFort> !es | wayl
[11:49] <ubotu> wayl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:49] <intelikey> PhinnFort why have a systray at all is my answer
[11:50] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:50] <PhinnFort> intelikey: for easy and combined access to my life
[11:50] <PhinnFort> rss-feeds, mails, konversation, msn/kopete, etc.
[11:50] <wayl> como entro a ese #ubuntu-es soy nuevo en irc
[11:50] <sayers> intelikey: If I tell it to hide I loose the whole bar...
[11:51] <intelikey> not easer to go all the way to that point than just clicking the desktop and sellecting what you want....    "blackbox thinking..."
[11:51] <PhinnFort> wayl: click on the blue text
[11:51] <wayl> ya de di
[11:52] <PhinnFort> intelikey: well, I don't want to click just to see if someone mentioned me on irc, if amarok is playing, if I got mail, if i got news, etc.
[11:53] <PhinnFort> systray is good, imho;)
[11:53] <sayers> It is the way of being able to do everything while seeing nothing
[11:53] <wayl> ok ... thanks
[11:54] <PhinnFort> sayers: configure systray, not kicker
[11:54] <intelikey> PhinnFort well.  i don't want part of my screen cluttered with "what i consider" useless junk, either.    but that's why it's linux.    it's all about choices.     default is only the first step on the long road to "right"    for each individual
[11:54] <PhinnFort> intelikey: agreed;)
[11:54] <sayers> PhinnFort: where?
[11:54] <PhinnFort> sayers: I don't know how you
[11:55] <PhinnFort> 've set it up, but I hover my mouse over, and a handle appears that I click, and select Configure Systray
[11:55] <intelikey> now if i used kicker    i would probably use systray too
[11:56] <intelikey> :)
[11:56] <PhinnFort> will be much (ab)used in the future
[11:56] <compilerwriter> phinnfort you have any more ideas on my sound issue?
[11:57] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: did you manage to play the ripped songs with amarok?
[11:57] <compilerwriter> no phinnfort I did not.
[11:57] <intelikey> compilerwriter is it the same issue you have been having ?    /me thinks back about a month
[11:58] <tdn> How do I get the restricted ATI drivers to work in Kubuntu Feisty? I heard that it should be easy to do now....
[11:58] <PhinnFort> tdn: in Ubuntu, not sure if it's as easy in KUbuntu
[11:58] <compilerwriter> I don't know intelikey if it is or not.  I have managed to get sound working since then. but now it is gone again.
[11:59] <intelikey> compilerwriter hmmm sounds like the same.   what did you do to get it to work ?
[11:59] <PhinnFort> !find kscd
[11:59] <ubotu> Found: kscd
[11:59] <PhinnFort> !info kscd
[11:59] <ubotu> kscd: audio CD player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 417 kB, installed size 900 kB
[11:59] <intelikey> have you looked into redoing that ?
[11:59] <compilerwriter> I have no clue what finally got it working intelikey?  It just did.
[11:59] <intelikey> oh....
[12:00] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: can you play any kind of sound?
[12:00] <tdn> PhinnFort, hmm... Why should it not be easy in KDE too?
[12:00] <compilerwriter> I have no sound whatever phinnfort
[12:01] <PhinnFort> tdn: because they have to write separate tools to handle it
[12:01] <sayers> PhinnFort: it says configure panel
[12:01] <PhinnFort> sayers: don't right click
[12:01] <PhinnFort> sayers: do you have a handle left of the systray?
[12:02] <sayers> ah I see that
[12:02] <intelikey> compilerwriter care to pastebin   "" lshw ;cat /proc/asound/cards  ;ls -l /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*  ""     i'll see if i notice anything.
[12:04] <ijacek> -msg
[12:05] <ijacek> !help
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[12:05] <intelikey> jackie what do ya need
[12:06] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[12:06] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:07] <K-Ryan> That's new
[12:07] <K-Ryan> What's APT?
[12:07] <intelikey> !apt
[12:07] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:07] <intelikey> :)
[12:07] <compilerwriter> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19698/
[12:07] <intelikey> k looking
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Err, right
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Alright well I think I'm headed to Windows for now.
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Deus Ex Game of The Year Edition is calling my name
[12:08] <K-Ryan> See ya' guys
[12:10] <compilerwriter> If I wanted to just backup and do a fresh install I would just back up my home directory and go from there would I not?
[12:10] <intelikey> compilerwriter   groups | grep audio
[12:10] <compilerwriter> intelikey keith adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:11] <intelikey> compilerwriter correct.   about the backup.      but if you have setup any special configs in /etc you might want to save a copy to your home first
[12:11] <Graham> Especially config for hardware that's a bitch to setup.
[12:11] <compilerwriter> I have xdmcp set up, but that could be fairly easily redone, and I can't remember which files I need to mess with anyway.
[12:12] <compilerwriter> Something with the xorg configs I believe.
[12:12] <intelikey> compilerwriter can you hear anything if you   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp    (should be white noise)    use ^c   [crtl] +C   to  kill that
[12:13] <compilerwriter> no such file or directory intelikey
[12:13] <intelikey> which ?