[10:27] <man-di> doko: ping
[10:31] <doko> man-di: pong
[10:34] <man-di> doko: any idea why java-gcj-compat cant find com.sun.tools.javac.Main on unstable?
[10:34] <man-di> I think a link called tools.jar is missing in java-gcj-compat but I'm not sure
[10:35] <doko> hmm, did you check the fedora spec file?
[10:35] <man-di> no
[10:35] <man-di> I dont even know in which jar this class should be
[10:35] <man-di> its in libgcj-tools.so (as native)
[10:37] <man-di> at least latest gutsy has the same problem
[10:37] <man-di> its borken since GCJ from experimental moved to unstable
[10:39] <vil> I guess we talked about it already
[10:39] <vil> it should be a few weeks already
[10:39] <man-di> vil: yes
[10:39] <man-di> and there are several bug reports where this is the cause
[10:44] <doko> man-di: fix it
[10:45] <man-di> doko: if I would know how
[10:47] <doko> man-di: as I did say, check the fedora spec file, half of java-gcj-compat is hidden there
[10:51] <man-di> hmmm, okay
[10:51] <man-di> I might be able to create a patch
[10:56] <man-di> doko: I think I got the problem
[10:56] <man-di> doko: java-gcj-compat-dev needs to link from tools.jar to libgcj-tools.jar
[10:57] <man-di> but gcj doesnt provide libgcj-tools.jar
[10:57] <man-di> it might take a bit longer until I can hack on gcj deb
[10:57] <doko> man-di: *grin* so how long did you spend asking me, and how long looking at the problem?
[10:58] <man-di> doko: I looked for 2 days now
[10:58] <man-di> before I asked you
[10:58] <man-di> doko: can you at least fix gcj-4.1?
[10:59] <man-di> would save us all some time
[11:00] <doko> man-di: why gcj?
[11:01] <man-di> it should provide the libgcj-tools.jar, or not?
[11:01] <man-di> it also provides libgcj-tools.so
[12:08] <doko> man-di: no, the versioned files are enough
[12:09] <doko> the so files are in the -dev package
[12:37] <man-di> aah, I missed libgcj-tools-4.1.jar exists
[12:39] <man-di> "sudo ln -s /usr/share/java/libgcj-tools-4.1.jar tools.jar" fixes the problem
[04:43] <jamesstansell>  the sun-java6  6-00-2ubuntu2 packages in feisty aren't the 1.6.0_01 version, are they?
[04:43] <tmarble> no, sorry... have have had a delay in releasing that.... it may be 2 more weeks or so
[04:45] <jamesstansell> any specific issue?
[04:46] <tmarble> well, it's because the release engineering team is simply overwhelmed at the moment
[04:46] <tmarble> this is temporary
[05:10] <lifeless> hiya tmarble 
[05:10] <tmarble> lifeless: hi robert -- are you in sevilla?
[05:11] <lifeless> sure am
[05:11] <tmarble> cool!
[05:11] <lifeless> lovely place
[05:12] <tmarble> i bet -- wish i were there -- i'm here in San Francisco getting ready for the CommunityOne event just before the JavaOne conference
[05:12] <lifeless> Timing was a bit close huh? 
[05:13] <tmarble> yes -- the transporter which allows being in two places at once still has some release critical bugs :)