=== spx2 [n=coder@89.37.70.170] has joined #xubuntu [12:26] I would think those two programs would look great by now as long as they've been available. [12:27] Howdy125, what do you mean ? === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [12:28] I mean they should have good looking fonts. aboyousif but I don't always know what I'm talking about .. ;) [12:29] xmms has been around for Hmmm .. 5 years or more I think. [12:30] More like 10. [12:30] Howdy125, the point here is the render interface or the technology used to display the GUI in it is not as the same .. i guess something is missing [12:30] I knew it was a while .. [12:31] Could be aboyousif === RubberToad [n=dsl@d90-128-52-239.cust.tele2.de] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] It uses the 1.x branch of gtk, instead of 2.x. === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] hi, anybody here with DamnSmallLinux expirience that can join me in #damnsmalllinux [12:32] It also hasn't been updated much at all in recent years. [12:33] Which is probably why it looks a bit off. [12:33] Pumpernickel, well is there any chance to fix or enable themeing for it ? [12:33] Not really. [12:34] or here anyhelp on i cannot remove a Desktop symbol since there is no /Desktop === LaHrrSLoVeLL [n=lahrrslo@213-95-159.netrun.cytanet.com.cy] has joined #xubuntu [12:35] Anyone here? [12:36] You might try Beep Media Player, since it uses gtk+ 2. [12:37] Pumpernickel, yes but i need to work on audacity [12:37] (It being based somewhat on xmms.) [12:37] Or Audacious, which is in turn based on Beep. [12:38] Pumpernickel, actually i like totem :) .. but the audacity is the problem [12:38] ah === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has left #xubuntu [] [12:40] !anyone | LaHrrSLoVeLL [12:40] LaHrrSLoVeLL: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:42] !apps [12:42] A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant === TomR [n=no@ip70-162-251-220.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] how does xubuntu compare to the server edition? can I software raid? [12:53] I plan on using it for virtualbox, and I want to be able to run the gui, but not lose system resources. === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Catoptro@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-216-122.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === rmd_ [n=jason@c-24-98-234-179.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:26] is there a way around xubuntu-desktop's use of gdm? [01:26] yea, you can not use it at all or use kdm [01:26] what about xdm? [01:27] idk about that [01:27] !xdm [01:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about xdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:27] is it a lightweight dm? [01:28] that would be my guess [01:28] They're interchangeable. [01:28] i just don't see any point in using the xubuntu-desktop if its going to install gnome crap [01:28] !gdm [01:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:28] !login [01:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about login - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:28] !loginmanager [01:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about loginmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:28] !help [01:28] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [01:28] brb [01:29] rmd_: the xubuntu-desktop package has more then just gdm as a gnome part === Whamazoom [n=chatzill@c-71-58-58-111.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:44] gdm is not a "gnome" part [01:44] it is pure gtk === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.133.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:45] gnome is gtk also [01:47] my way of thinking about names is if it starts with a K then dontever use, a G ok if needed and X simple and fast === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.133.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === mindframe_ [n=mindfram@ip68-106-174-142.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:58] my liveCD of xubuntu doesnt open the network app === hitmanWilly [n=hitmanWi@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@27.Red-88-11-214.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:19] I hope this xubuntu works nicely [02:22] depends what you want it for ;) [02:23] Well...its not letting me install.....I do not have user rights to partition my HDD....????! [02:23] wtf. [02:24] Am I missing something? [02:25] Whamazoom: better verify that cd for defects -- there is an aoption in the boot menu for that [02:25] is HDD your hard disk drive or /dev/hdd which might be the cdrom ? [02:26] I checked CD for defects, then let the Live part load....I hit the install button and now it wont let me partition my Hard disk drive [02:27] usually your hard disk is /dev/hda or /dev/sda [02:27] its dev/sda in this case [02:28] I choose guided - use entire disk, then partitioner loads then tells me I dont have rights to partition. [02:29] partitions don't have permissions :/ [02:29] I know....which is why I don't understand whats going on........ can I just have ONE linux experience that doesnt make me running abck to windows lol....:( [02:31] there is something very wrong, probably also connected with the network utility not working [02:31] hmm I even md5summed === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54a5f9df.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:35] I guess i will try the alternate install CD === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Howdy125 [n=Howdy125@c-24-17-87-165.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === moparisthebest [n=FBI@cpe-69-133-96-111.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:44] please dont go back to windows :) [02:44] its the only os that works [02:44] you will find great things in linux [02:45] Whamazoom: you may think that, it 'just works' becuase allmost all hardware is made for windows [02:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALqduQfm09c [02:49] ^cool wiimote + beryl [02:49] Jester45: actually, is there any hardware that doesn't work on windows but works on other operating systems? === Laptop125 [n=Laptop12@c-24-17-87-165.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:50] probly === aussieman [n=bobo@184.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:51] ooo i know [02:51] ps3 hardware, maybe [02:51] xbox 360 [02:51] or a wii [02:51] but... they are no pcs [02:52] and i said allmost all hardware is made for windows, nothing about it not working for windows, ati makes their cards for mac/windows but works on linux what about the other way [02:53] TheSheep, SPARC [02:53] There is no windows for SPARC. [02:53] kalikiana: umm... wasn't there windows NT for that? [02:53] kalikiana: no, wait, it was for Alpha [02:53] actually i dont know if ati has mac drivers,most likely === ZenDJiNN [n=DJiNN@ABordeaux-156-1-131-181.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === ZenDJiNNi [n=DJiNN@ABordeaux-156-1-131-181.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] Jester45, They do support mac of course. [02:54] I don't know if they support Linux on PowerPC, though. === Laptop125 [n=Laptop12@c-24-17-87-165.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:57] on another note, is dual head concidered two video cards or 1 card 2 outputs [02:57] and is 2 cards possible [02:57] i think my intergrated would be a nice terminal [03:03] Jester45, You can plug one monitor in one card each if you like. [03:05] yea thats was i was thinking newcard for desktop and older for a ttyl [03:05] the only problem i might have [03:05] is the intergrated is nvidia and the pci one is ati === test3r [n=tester@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:08] Hey everyone - i got Xubuntu704 to duel-boot on an HP Pavilion laptop with XP using GParted to do the initial partitioning! However, I can't access my WiFi network with it! It is lighting up the spots on my card like it is scanning when I activate the wireless network under Applications>System>Network, but even though it looks like it is working, it can't seem to find my network! I have my WEP key correct, and my ESSID correct. What [03:09] !wifi [03:09] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [03:09] good point. lemme c if they have a solution. === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@c-134-229-43.d.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@69.29.62.157] has joined #xubuntu === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@69.29.62.157] has left #xubuntu ["Oh] === Whamazoom [n=chatzill@c-71-58-58-111.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === varka__ [n=varkatop@p54A5D3B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-155-99.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5D3B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@203.Red-88-18-92.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === aro [n=aro@14-210.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=petroleu@82.152.210.48] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-216-122.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester46 [n=ryan@207-119-216-122.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-8000.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === huang [n=huang@202.114.78.205] has joined #xubuntu === huang [n=huang@202.114.78.205] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:12] could anyone please help me with my dual head i dont know what is wrong. my cards are both ati one is radeon 9250 and other is rage pro, i have 2 screen the radeon is connected to screen0 and rage pro to screen1 i can only get screen0 to work. my xorg.conf is at http://rafb.net/p/WgTjf252.html === darrend_ [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === nekomancer [n=nekomanc@cpe-71-72-35-233.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === brianw [n=brianw@gentoo/user/brianw] has joined #xubuntu [05:26] I have to say I am impressed w/ the Fiesty release. Great work [05:26] http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/sys/325681845.html === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-216-122.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:26] Xubuntu screams on that setup ^^ [05:27] on what [05:27] That link I posted [05:28] i just came back [05:28] http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/sys/325681845.html [05:28] I have to say I am impressed w/ the Fiesty release. Great work [05:28] That is what I posted right befor eyou joined [05:28] pretty good for 150 [05:28] I am the seller. :) [05:29] oo [05:29] and i was just about to write an email [05:30] why are you selling for so cheap === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.194.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:30] I get parts/pc's from family/friends/clients and repurpose them. Usually I end up giving them away [05:31] I have all kinds of parts and such, to frankenstein PC's [05:31] well, im a 10th grader [05:31] I mainly give away to local students [05:31] and my sis is kinda in college 1/2 time [05:31] Where do you live? [05:31] us missouri [05:32] Ahh [05:32] you? i could pay for shipping, and i wouldnt need some of the things in the list [05:33] I live in the Palm Springs area, Southern California [05:33] like the moniter and mouse and lan cable [05:34] man and its preinstalled with xubuntu [05:34] I have 2 inquireies thus far, email the link and you get in the que [05:34] I also have another one in the pipeline [05:34] k i will [05:34] Specs are not as good though, amd tbird 925 w/ 512 ram [05:35] one has to love this community... [05:35] where else do people spend time rebuilding old pc's and giving them away for free? [05:36] it's amazing. [05:36] linux or ubuntu ? I am mainly a gentoo user myself. But I would not like to give a person who is new to linux a gentoo box. heh [05:38] And there are not too many xfce based distros that I really like. And Xubuntu really has comne into it's own. It is a top notch product imo [05:39] it's the linux comuntiy === test3r [n=tester@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:39] im not that new [05:39] all though im having troble with dual head [05:39] i like puppy myself, but ubuntu has much more flashy stuff... [05:39] i got the networking solved on that DuelBoot HP Pavilion [05:40] I had to switch my key to "Open" encryp [05:40] wep? eww [05:40] I read online that it can actually be BETTER than Shared encryp for WEP security - is this true? Im not sure what to think [05:40] test3r: yes it is true [05:40] yes it is rly my only choice until i get better router [05:41] test3r: that being said, it makes little difference sonce wep is so trivial to crack [05:41] OK thank you brian. Well yes but my neighbors are an old lady and two dipshits that cant even keep their dog in the fence [05:41] test3r: got an old pc lying about? checkout pfSense [05:41] they piled up old tires [05:41] heh [05:41] next to the fence? the dog just climes ontop of them [05:41] I dont get it... ^ ^ [05:42] I dont think they will b trying to crack my wep ne time soon. [05:42] even if some1 did what will they find???? OOOOO alot of stuff they already knew was around. whoopie ding. [05:42] =) [05:43] you know the other day i was searching with Google for a converter for file formats (FLA > MPG, AVI to be exact) [05:43] and you know what come up in the results somehow? a scene rls. [05:44] pretty rediculous. [05:45] brianw: sent mail [05:45] Jester45: kk [05:47] brianw: i have to go to bed soon but thanks for showing link, hopefully i can get a family member to write a check or something for shipping i know its gonna be pretty high [05:47] cdparanoia is running fast on that Pavilion its already on track11 of first incubus album and i started it when i got on here [05:47] !pastebin [05:47] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [05:48] yeah yeah I get it. sry. im just excited it's up and going Duel Boot n all. new xubuntu. pretty pimp. === test3r is a virgin duel-booter. [05:49] dual*, unless you plan on sword fighting it [05:50] :) [05:50] spell check still doesnt tell me im an idiot using the wrong word- when are we gana code That project???? === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:51] heh [05:52] now do i got oggy installd? [05:52] i did automatix [05:52] can i man ogg? [05:52] lol, a are you sure dont dont mean this? or how about a list of definitions [05:54] vorbistoolsplz [05:54] !vorbis [05:54] Sorry, I don't know anything about vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:54] !ogg [05:54] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [05:55] there we r. hey i found a bug! vorbis should b linkt unless its rly spelld- [05:55] ok well, ima going to sleep now [05:55] !vorbus [05:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about vorbus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:55] bug #1 [05:55] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [05:55] !vorbis [05:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === Jester45 *chuckels* === Jester45 begins log :) === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:03] seeeen. === keyvin [n=knpric02@74-129-66-9.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:06] whats going on tonight guys [06:06] test3r, i think ogg is on by default... [06:07] i had forgot the good people of our distro included the vorbis-tools pak by default for us === s|k [n=bjorn@ip70-171-201-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:33] hey- should i dare trying GLXcube on that Pavilion laptop??? [06:33] i think it has some generic IBM accelerator in it [06:35] glxinfo | grep rendering reports Yes [06:35] !!!! =O =) [06:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about o =) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:35] lols. [06:37] nice glxgears gave 500+ FPS all While XMMS was playing ogg. i suppose ill try for doom on the thing then === grazie [n=grazie@host86-144-208-25.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-72-82-92-235.nrflva.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === knpric02 [n=knpric02@74-129-66-9.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === knpric02 is now known as keyvin === hyper_ch [n=hyper@217-162-94-13.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-173-34.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@203.Red-88-18-92.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Gerro [n=user@c-76-106-67-94.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:45] omg md5sum command keeps blowing me off. I made a text file called stuff and everything in it looks like this flaiefjklaf4343290flkajfelaf ./file.jpg space alfiaejflaejfaj45534 ./file2.jpg then I did md5sum -c stuff inside that directory [07:45] not space I mean new line [07:46] should I leave any blank lines perhaps!? is it like gcc compiling? === syntax-breaker [n=ict7@203.84.172.94] has joined #xubuntu === Gerro [n=user@c-76-106-67-94.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === aussieman [n=bobo@160.Red-83-63-147.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-220-136.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === test3r [n=tester@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has left #xubuntu [] === _Codeman_ [n=codeman@ip70-185-225-238.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === moparisthebest__ [n=FBI@cpe-69-133-96-111.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:31] <_Codeman_> how do I edit global key bindings in xubuntu? === ceil420 [n=Ceil@71-11-245-60.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === _Codeman_ [n=codeman@ip70-185-225-238.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-72-82-92-235.nrflva.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@200.Red-88-11-213.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_ is now known as darrend === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === aboyousif [n=aboyousi@196.20.45.134] has joined #xubuntu [10:36] hello guys === __Krush [n=chatzill@mail.compex.edu.mt] has joined #xubuntu === lysergide [n=sadistic@89-215-3-42.2072975527.ddns-lan.pl.ekk.bg] has joined #xubuntu === lysergide [n=sadistic@89-215-3-42.2072975527.ddns-lan.pl.ekk.bg] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === lysergide [n=sadistic@89-215-3-42.2072975527.ddns-lan.pl.ekk.bg] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === nopcode [n=nopcode@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de] has joined #xubuntu [11:20] hey [11:20] i just installed xubuntu but had to switch to 640x400x16 to see anything [11:20] because otherwise the screen went and stayed black [11:20] now it's installed but when booting i get the same problem [11:20] that is, a black screen all the way [11:21] got a geforce 8800 gts [11:21] any suggestions? [11:21] have you tried vesa? [11:22] how do i do that? [11:23] btw i wonder, can i somehow disable that logo completely? [11:23] nvidia? [11:23] i actually want to see the kernel message when booting, every time [11:23] Myrtti: yeah [11:24] try replacing nvidia with nv in Driver -line of /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:25] if you can tell me how to boot i'll try that :) [11:25] i'd like it to initially boot in normal 80x25 textmode [11:25] and not start X obviously [11:26] well i suppose vga=ask [11:27] but how do i prevent X from starting? [11:27] well i'll try brb [11:33] re [11:33] it works if i just remove the "splash" option :) [11:33] from grub? [11:33] yeah [11:33] yeah. [11:33] then X comes up and everything [11:33] now, my network card doesnt work either unfortunately [11:34] its a realtek gigbit card [11:34] realtek is a curse word [11:34] it say "link down" [11:34] says [11:34] in dmesg [11:34] well dunno i think by now realtek should be ok for consumers [11:35] i only use it for dsl anyways 99% of the time :) [11:35] nopcode: lspci | grep Realtek [11:35] i'm obviously not in linux right now === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-113-160.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [11:36] hm [11:36] "realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC" [11:36] thats what windows says [11:36] the linux drivers thats loaded says similar [11:36] iirc [11:37] nopcode: you've got feisty? [11:37] !battery-monitor [11:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about battery-monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:37] !battery [11:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about battery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:38] !battery-applet [11:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about battery-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:38] !applets [11:38] To add useful applets to your panel, right click on the panel and choose "Add applet" [11:38] !applets-link [11:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about applets-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:38] !applets-list [11:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about applets-list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:38] Myrtti: yeah [11:38] aboyousif: you can use ubotu with /msg [11:38] Myrtti: would you suggest building a custom kernel? [11:39] Myrtti, sorry didn't know that [11:39] not really yet [11:39] Myrtti: maybe i could put a newer kernel package on an usb stick? [11:39] (btw this is x86-64 if that matters) [11:39] brb [11:48] re [11:48] Myrtti: any idea if a recent kernel package will fix this? [11:50] nope, I've got no idea [11:51] well ok i'll try again === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch [11:56] Myrtti: any idea where to get the kernel package? [11:56] and its dependencies? [11:58] you could try asking at #ubuntu, this hardly is specifically xubuntu related question :-) [11:58] more people would see your question there [11:58] oh, ok [11:58] well i never understood why theres different ubuntu distros.. [11:58] they're not actually [11:59] then why the fsck..? [11:59] why all this "xubuntu" "kubuntu" "edubuntu" mess? [12:00] because cdrom is 700MB :-) [12:00] nopcode, it is nod mess [12:00] uh well they could've made a dvd-image? [12:00] there's another reasons, but the difference basically is the apps and gui, not the basic stuff [12:00] nopcode, you have to choose the interface you want and the other things is the same [12:00] aboyousif: that doesnt warrant having different distros [12:01] the interface is a marginal detail [12:01] it's not a different distro, you can switch to gnome and ubuntu with installing ubuntu-desktop [12:01] nopcode, if you tried them you will know they are not different [12:01] or to kde and kubuntu with kubuntu-desktop [12:01] well anyways [12:01] where can i get kernel packages? [12:01] i suppose i can simply install new kernel using dpkg? [12:02] sure [12:05] well where can i find them? ;) === gabkdlly [n=pannwitz@wolgograd.mi.fu-berlin.de] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@175.Red-83-44-159.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [01:27] nopcode: if you see this, the only part the same is the core. ubuntu usees gnome related stuff kubuntu kde xubuntu xfce and edubutu i think uses gnome also. they all have the same release time and all use the same repo [01:27] then they shouldnt be different projects [01:29] have you tried more than one? its a really good thing [01:29] anyways [01:29] maybe you can help me [01:29] i downloaded a 2.6.22 kernel package from gutsy [01:29] i read about it and i cant [01:29] sorry [01:29] and i have to go to school soon [01:30] ok np === gabkdlly [n=pannwitz@euler.mi.fu-berlin.de] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Ramla [n=ramla@a88-115-147-170.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === mcscruff [n=mcscruff@cpc1-folk1-0-0-cust969.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=petroleu@82.152.210.48] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] is there any specific process that could be terminated to prevent sound from working on the system? [03:02] archangelpetro: what do you mean ? [03:02] well [03:02] You want to disable sound ? or it has crashed ? [03:02] i came back to my computer after sleeping [03:03] and xmms nor amarok would play music [03:03] so i assume the sound was gone [03:04] anything in - 'lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*' [03:05] i've rebooted [03:05] :/ === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #xubuntu [03:23] WOW! === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.39.224] has left #xubuntu [] === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.39.224] has joined #xubuntu [03:27] anyone has edgy here ? === kalikiana is on Feisty. [03:33] kalikiana, any differences you touched between feisty and edgy in xfce ? [03:35] aboyousif: in feisty xfce is more stable but i dont know why consume more memory (at least to me) [03:36] jgamio, xfce is not the lightest ever .. it is heavy to some extend ofcourse not like gnome or kde but it make some balance between easy / features and lightness === _aussieman [n=bobo@14.Red-88-26-108.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:41] aboyousif: if run with 128 MB is ligh I think feisty has more gnome dependence [03:42] aboyousif, Xfce was updated. Anything specific you'd want to know? [03:42] jgamio, Which would that be? [03:42] jgamio, sorry i can't get what u mean [03:42] Actually I recommend you to update to 4.4.1 if you have memory issues. [03:43] kalikiana, thanks .. [03:43] anyone have a url on locking down ? [03:43] cliebow_, what is locking down ? [03:44] kalikiana: I dont know by sure gnome but by example feisty mount my harddrivers by default that mean more app run [03:44] cliebow_, http://www.linuxforums.org/security/locking_down_ubuntu.html [03:44] ohh little things like preventing shutdown..preventing users navigating outside their homedir..that kind of pessulus thing.. [03:45] using ltsp you see [03:45] jgamio, No, you guessed wrong there. Thunar does the auto mounting by itself now. [03:45] jgamio, And you can turn it off if you like to. [03:45] cliebow_, it is my first time to know such thing .. thanks for that .. [03:46] aboyousif, thanks for the comeback//just the same [03:46] anyone in Seville? [03:48] cliebow_, spain ? [03:48] yes..ubuntu dev conf === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #xubuntu === jgami1 [n=jgamio@201.208.38.233] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === deniz_ogu1 [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has joined #xubuntu === DrCurl [n=carl@bas2-quebec14-1167941575.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:23] hi === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [04:24] Hello. I've just installed xubuntu Feisty. Isn't it coming with OpenOffice by default? [04:24] I find Ubuntu a little bloated for me and I'm considering xubuntu but I have a few questions... [04:24] what is the media player in xubuntu? [04:25] DrCurl, lemme give it a try [04:25] DrCurl: gxine by default. but i installed vlc and using it. [04:26] gxine for music as well? [04:26] i got totem [04:27] it seems so. but you know there's some license problems with mp3s for example and I pdefer vlc, it plays everything. (of cource after you download the codec packages first) [04:27] ok [04:27] oops..gxine for an audio cd [04:28] is there a vfs, like if I wanna browse samba, or ssh/ftp [04:28] usb key works sweet! [04:29] DrCurl, There is fusesmb. [04:30] !fusesmb [04:30] !info fusesmb [04:30] kalikiana, is it setup by default, or di I have to mess with configs to get it? [04:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about fusesmb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:30] fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu [04:31] Dear friends is there OpenOffice.org coming with xubuntu by default. While I was first installing xubuntu, there were some packages related with OpenOffice if i am not mistaken. But I had to make another install and there's no OpenOffice now. Is it as it should to be? [04:31] DrCurl, You need to install it. You should look in the forum, there is an easy howto. [04:32] ok [04:32] deniz_ogu1: with the livecd i believe there are some open office packages that are there, i think they are mainly for language purposes but to my knowledge the default installation does not come with openoffice [04:33] maxamillion: Thanks. I got it now. [04:33] deniz_ogu1: anytime :) [04:33] I tried xfce under zenwalk, and one thing I didn't like was that folder content wasn't automatically refreshing under thunar. Is it like this in xubuntu as well? [04:35] DrCurl: no, that is an old bug that to my knowledge was associated with Thunar and i would assume the bug has been resolved in zenwalk [04:35] DrCurl: but ultimately to answer your question: no, that issue is not in xubuntu [04:36] It's a well known problem with people who forget to compile Thunar with gamin. :P [04:36] ok === Howdy125 [n=Howdy125@c-24-17-87-165.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:37] kalikiana: well .. yes, that too ;) [04:37] and cd/usn keys are automagically mounted too? [04:37] I would prefer it not compiled with that [04:37] h3sp4wn: really? [04:37] s/usn/usb [04:37] maxamillion: yep - rather just do a manual refresh if I need to === maxamillion likes it when his file manager shows the current directory in its entirety [04:37] DrCurl: ah, yes ... those are all auto mounted in xubuntu [04:38] h3sp4wn: fair enough === maxamillion is lazy [04:38] DrCurl, Look into Thunar's preferences for automounting options. ;) [04:39] is it hard to get the gnome deskbar in xfce panel? someone is using it? === deniz_ogu1 [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has left #xubuntu [] [04:40] DrCurl: gnome deskbar? ... is that just a panel plugin? [04:40] yes === deniz_ogut [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has joined #xubuntu [04:41] DrCurl: xfce panel has gnome plugin support ... i wouldn't assume it to be hard at all === TheSheep [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu === DrCurl is wondering... [04:42] if I install things like gnome deskbar and rhythmbox, will I get a XFCE that is as bloated/slow as gnome :| [04:42] TheSheep: hi hi [04:42] since those apps use gnome libs [04:42] DrCurl: that i don't know .... it would depend alot on which gnome-libs they use [04:43] DrCurl: xubuntu actually uses a couple of the lighter gnome-libs simply out of convenience [04:43] ok [04:43] DrCurl: try mpd :) [04:43] mpd is cool, but I need a music manager that can manage my portable player as well === moparisthebest [n=FBI@cpe-69-133-96-111.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:44] DrCurl: actually ... i would recommend you try exaile .... when you close the program window it minimizes to the system tray and you can right click it for functionality from that point ... rather nice alternative and it doesn't need gnome-libs [04:44] anyway, I think I much prefer thunar and the superb xfce compositor... even if it gets as slow as gnome with a few extra apps [04:44] DrCurl: Gnome libs (up to some level, I believe) don't give harm. The GIMP, being a gnome application comes as default with xubuntu, for example. [04:45] the gimp doesn't use gnome libs, only gtk [04:45] DrCurl: i run xfce on my work machine which is overpowered for even the weigth of gnome ... i just like xfce better ;) if you don't mind the slow down then use the applications you like :) [04:45] deniz_ogut, GIMP is Gtk, not gnome ;) [04:45] at least, on some sustem [04:46] maxamillion, yes, that is the way to look at things [04:46] :) === DrCurl is cheking out exaile [04:46] also, last thing, is there a cd ripper in xubuntu? [04:47] ripper X? [04:47] DrCurl, xfburn [04:47]