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| marseillai | anyone to revu kima : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5076 ?? | 02:27 |
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| marseillai | it's a kicker applet | 02:28 |
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| === allee waves to Hobbsee, whereever she may be | ||
| Hobbsee | heya allee! | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | allee: right hand corner | 09:16 |
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| Jucato | must be fun :) | 09:20 |
| allee | Jucato: it's overcrowded over here ;) | 09:21 |
| Jucato | a.k.a. overcrowded fun :) | 09:21 |
| jokky911 | hi | 09:24 |
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| Jucato | heh Tonio_ said he gained weight... but from the looks of it, not that much :) | 09:27 |
| Hobbsee | no, tonio's pretty thin | 09:27 |
| Hobbsee | allee: er, better make that left hand corner | 09:27 |
| allee | Hobbsee: heh, found you. Thx for the tip | 09:27 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: that's what I know. :) | 09:28 |
| Hobbsee | and you. :P | 09:28 |
| Jucato | lol what a nice way to meet in real life? :D | 09:28 |
| Jucato | s/?/!/ | 09:28 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: we've met before - i just hadnt seen him this morning | 09:29 |
| Jucato | aaah :) | 09:29 |
| Jucato | heh it's just like me sending a text message to my mom, asking her where she was. and she was just standing outside the house :) | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:30 |
| crimsun | eh, that happens all the time. I IRC my students, even. | 09:32 |
| crimsun | normally they're down the hall in one of the UNIX labs. | 09:32 |
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| Jucato | :) | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: always fun, yes | 09:33 |
| === Jucato wonders if the CS college in the university he went to knows anything about *nix... | ||
| Hobbsee | crimsun: most poeple are on their laptops, typing, it seems | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | or playing games | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | during these demos | 09:34 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 09:34 |
| Jucato | Is this lady happy or what? :D http://foodfight.org/fotos/2007/05-07 UDS Sevilla/00046.jpg | 09:35 |
| Jucato | (bah silly konversation parsing!) | 09:35 |
| Hobbsee | twitch | 09:36 |
| kwwii | Riddell: the svg is in the works | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | there are other photos - but they're all bad, of me | 09:36 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 09:36 |
| Jucato | at least now you have photos :D | 09:36 |
| Jucato | oh hi kwwii! :D | 09:36 |
| kwwii | howdy Jucato | 09:36 |
| allee | mornin kwwii | 09:38 |
| kwwii | moin allee | 09:38 |
| Jucato | hm.. morning... :) | 09:38 |
| === ajmitch will need to find some more photos | ||
| Jucato | will we have incriminating photos of Hobbsee as well? :D | 09:41 |
| ajmitch | I'm sure we can find some | 09:42 |
| Hobbsee | hopefully not... | 09:42 |
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| Jucato | heh :) | 09:43 |
| crimsun | half the fun of a UDS is incriminating fotos. | 09:43 |
| Jucato | yes! more more!! | 09:43 |
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| mhb | morning | 10:19 |
| Hobbsee | hi mhb | 10:19 |
| mhb | mmm, photos | 10:21 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: try hunger for kcall | 10:49 |
| Riddell | kphone, I don't know anyone who uses | 10:49 |
| Riddell | well, Tonio_ knows all about voip stuff from looking into it before | 10:49 |
| freeflying | Riddell: okay | 10:50 |
| hunger | Riddell: There are some users for kcall. | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | yop | 10:52 |
| freeflying | How about twinkle, I can't find kcall in archive | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: twinkle is very nice, but configuration is a mess for the user | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | btw, that's probably the best choice atm | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: depends what you want in fact | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: want a pure sip software ? then twinkle is the one | 10:53 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: I just use it for uds's voip | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: and both kcall and kphone are unmaintained afaik | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: twinkle then | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: sorry I thought that was another discussion about voip solution for kubuntu | 10:54 |
| Jucato | hi Tonio_, hi Riddell. saw pictures of you two :) | 10:55 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: I mean for UDS voip meeting use :) | 10:55 |
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| Tonio_ | Jucato: where ? :) | 10:55 |
| Jucato | from manchicken's blog post (Riddell doesn't look too happy in that pic :P) | 10:56 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: and I thought you said you gained weight? :P | 10:56 |
| Jucato | http://blog.notsosoft.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/dscn0424_1.jpg | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: already lost it ;) | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ! | 10:57 |
| Jucato | that fast? wow! | 10:57 |
| Jucato | oh hi there _StefanS_ :) | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | hey Jucatohh | 10:57 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: are you at UDS? | 10:59 |
| _StefanS_ | not really. | 10:59 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm at work in here in DK | 10:59 |
| Jucato | aw... | 10:59 |
| _StefanS_ | isn't it over btw, ? | 10:59 |
| Jucato | is it? | 11:00 |
| _StefanS_ | think so | 11:00 |
| Jucato | :( | 11:01 |
| _StefanS_ | no | 11:01 |
| _StefanS_ | its the whole week it seems | 11:01 |
| _StefanS_ | until friday 11th | 11:01 |
| Jucato | heh I misread that as the 13th :D | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: I have a specific stomac, got an operation when I was born | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: I can loose weight very, very quickly, even eating twice as much as the average people ;) | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: somehow that helps :) | 11:07 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: you still at uds? | 11:07 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: oh I envy you soooo much :) | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: sure, till the end of the week | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: you shouldn't, I wouldn't describe the problems that causes but there are a lot | 11:08 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm amazed that conference phones hasn't gotten any better the past years... oh well | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | stomac hurting every day, things like that | 11:08 |
| Jucato | aw... ok not so envious anymore :) | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: well I've had those problems for 29 years, just get used to it :) | 11:11 |
| Jucato | O.o | 11:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDolphinByDefault | 11:23 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: would you have the time to include that patch for kubuntu i sent earlier (If thats okay with you Riddell) | 11:24 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'm kinda anxious to see it working | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: will do this WE only I guess | 11:28 |
| mhb | hmm, the spec does not say how the "kubuntu intro page" is going to be handled | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: is that an emergency ? I cna build packageqs for gutsy right now | 11:28 |
| mhb | Riddell: ^^ the dolphin one | 11:28 |
| Riddell | mhb: intro page? | 11:29 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: its not like an emergency, so lets just wait till next week where Riddell already said it could be done.. | 11:29 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I | 11:29 |
| mhb | Riddell: I think it's about:konqueror or something (now) | 11:30 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'm far to rushy I think :) | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: dolphin supports ioslaves | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: no issue on that point | 11:30 |
| Riddell | mhb: we won't have that | 11:31 |
| mhb | Tonio_: I didn't mean not supporting ioslaves | 11:31 |
| Riddell | unless you start konqueror, which people will for web browsing | 11:31 |
| mhb | I mean some people are used to access the home dir that way | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibilityKeyboard hope that's okay | 11:32 |
| mhb | Riddell: so there isn't going to be any "welcome" screen like that in dolphin? | 11:34 |
| manchicken | It's nice to know that you all have noticed the complete and total awesomeness of my blog. | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: dolphin is a pure file manager | 11:34 |
| mhb | Tonio_: true | 11:34 |
| mhb | Tonio_: I don't argue with that | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: it'll open in ~/ and that's all :) | 11:35 |
| mhb | Tonio_: hmm | 11:35 |
| _StefanS_ | whats the kubuntu-bluetooth workshop about ? - bluetooth enabled by default ? :) | 11:36 |
| mhb | Tonio_: what about people that are used to opening "Remote places" through the konqueror about page? | 11:36 |
| Jucato | mhb: the sidebar in Dolphin | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: they'll have to change back to konqueror | 11:38 |
| mhb | eh? | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | they will have to switch with kde4 btw | 11:39 |
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| Tonio_ | mhb: you have the remove places via kicker | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | the system applet | 11:39 |
| mhb | true | 11:39 |
| Jucato | the default entries in Dolphin's sidebar has a Network entry which is the same as remote:/ | 11:39 |
| mhb | Tonio_: it is not a great idea from a usability point of view to remove "features" without considering the users | 11:40 |
| mhb | in my opinion, this is not a thing only 1% of the users do | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: we are not removing things | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | we are just adding an alternative to konqueror | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | and we will not get rid of the fucking konqueror | 11:41 |
| Riddell | !language | 11:42 |
| Jucato | mhb: I think Tonio_ is also considering helping users adjust to KDE 4 as well | 11:42 |
| ubotu | Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | 11:42 |
| _StefanS_ | hehe | 11:42 |
| Tonio_ | so that's I guess the point :) | 11:42 |
| manchicken | Served! Served! Served! Served! | 11:42 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: ;) | 11:42 |
| mhb | not actually | 11:42 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: I do have one suggestion though. Please also make it easy to switch back to Konqueror as well | 11:42 |
| Jucato | :) | 11:42 |
| manchicken | mhb: It's not such a bad idea to have a more specific program that does one thing well. | 11:43 |
| mhb | that's not what I'm arguing against | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: read the SPEC !!!!!!!! | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | it is already in it | 11:43 |
| mhb | I mean - is my english that bad? | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | we will not implement anything if people cannot switch back in 2 clicks | 11:43 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: I've read it. but not everyone will :) | 11:43 |
| mhb | all I'm saying is that people *may* be confused with the "intro" page now missing | 11:43 |
| Jucato | mhb: but that's Konqueror's intro page, not Dolphin. unless an intro page will be implemented upstream, I don't think we should change that in Dolphin | 11:44 |
| Jucato | besides, they're bound to be more confused that Dolphin is launched by default anyway ;) | 11:45 |
| mhb | perhaps this particular point is not that important, but that spec should address transition issues | 11:47 |
| mhb | I mean usability transition issues, the technical ones are there | 11:48 |
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| _StefanS_ | it would be nice to have a sort of way to change, say like the default browser throughout all of kubuntu (including gtk apps) | 11:49 |
| _StefanS_ | and email application and so on.. | 11:49 |
| Jucato | mhb: I'm sure that will be considered. the spec was just written now :) | 11:49 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: there's a CLI way to do that already. | 11:49 |
| Jucato | but a GUI way would involve packaging kalternatives and installing it by default | 11:49 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: yes exacltly. | 11:49 |
| _StefanS_ | GUI | 11:49 |
| Riddell | manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/3.90.1/debs/ | 11:50 |
| _StefanS_ | is preferred :D | 11:50 |
| Jucato | (but we're actually trying to advertise Konqueror and KMail, so we won't do that) | 11:50 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: Default Applications should handle that | 11:50 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: or am I wrong? | 11:50 |
| Jucato | mhb: nope. it only affects KDE apps | 11:50 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: well it should. But doesnt | 11:50 |
| _StefanS_ | only KDE apps | 11:50 |
| _StefanS_ | gotta go to lunch. | 11:51 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: actually, it "shouldn't" | 11:51 |
| Jucato | :) | 11:51 |
| mhb | I also think it "should" | 11:51 |
| Jucato | have fun masticating and digesting | 11:51 |
| mhb | well, have fun arguing for the rest of the day :o) | 11:52 |
| Jucato | mhb: we probably need a more specific/generic utility for it. because it's a setting that affects not just KDE, but the whole system | 11:52 |
| _StefanS_ | right. | 11:52 |
| Jucato | there's galternatives and kalternatives as frontends for update-alternatives | 11:52 |
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| Jucato | !away > _StefanS_ | 11:54 |
| Jucato | :P | 11:54 |
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| mhb | Jucato: yes, a system-wide "Default Applications" module for kcmshell sounds sensible to me | 11:59 |
| Jucato | mhb: kalternatives is actually kcontrol module. unfortunately, we don't have a package for it | 12:00 |
| mhb | hmm | 12:00 |
| Jucato | it's in kdeutils (upstream) iirc | 12:00 |
| Jucato | ah na, kdeonbeta | 12:01 |
| mhb | Jucato: what's that? | 12:01 |
| mhb | Jucato: sorry, just read that | 12:04 |
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| fdoving | can anyone suggest a simple CMS for publishing text and pictures basically? | 12:40 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: have you checked the opensourcecms.org ? | 12:49 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: lets you preview them easily | 12:49 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: no, i haven't thanks. i'm testing joomla currently. | 12:50 |
| _StefanS_ | err.. well that wasn't the correct | 12:50 |
| _StefanS_ | 2secs | 12:50 |
| Jucato | it wasn't the correct 2 seconds? O.o | 12:50 |
| _StefanS_ | http://opensourcecms.com/ | 12:50 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: bah :P | 12:51 |
| fdoving | thanks. | 12:51 |
| _StefanS_ | np | 12:51 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I dont know if that kinda gave you 'information overload', but there you have it :D | 12:51 |
| fdoving | i checked that joomla has a good rating, then closed the site :) | 12:52 |
| Jucato | hm? | 12:52 |
| fdoving | closed the browser window.. i mean. | 12:52 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 12:53 |
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| marseillai | hi | 01:17 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi | 01:48 |
| === marseillai is looking for one more +1 here : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5077 | ||
| _StefanS_ | marseillai: what? | 01:50 |
| marseillai | _StefanS_: are you motu ? | 01:51 |
| _StefanS_ | marseillai: no sorry | 01:51 |
| marseillai | because i've package KIMA and he needs one more yes to be accept | 01:51 |
| _StefanS_ | go to #ubuntu-motu | 01:51 |
| _StefanS_ | I think thats whats its called | 01:51 |
| marseillai | _StefanS_: no thanks | 01:52 |
| ScottK | That's correct. | 01:52 |
| marseillai | when i go to ubuntu-motu no one takes care of what i say .... | 01:52 |
| ScottK | marseillai: A lot of people are away this week, so have patience. | 01:52 |
| marseillai | i've been allways more lucky here or on ubuntu-fr-classroom | 01:52 |
| ScottK | Well the people who can approve your package mostly hang out on #ubuntu-motu. Try it or not, your choice. | 01:53 |
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| seele | will anyone be at LinuxTag? | 02:05 |
| Riddell | not I, but kwwii is talking | 02:06 |
| Riddell | I think sebas is going | 02:06 |
| seele | ok | 02:06 |
| seele | id like to meet with anyone who is interested to go over the usability study | 02:06 |
| Riddell | and there's a kubuntu stall with mirjam | 02:06 |
| seele | all the testing is done, but people are still working on reports so i dont have complete results yet | 02:07 |
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| doc__ | hi there | 02:29 |
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| Tm_T | hi Hobbsee | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | hi Tm_T, how's it going? | 02:44 |
| Tm_T | mostly fine thanks :) | 02:44 |
| Tm_T | middle of moving to new home, so back hurts but that's minor | 02:45 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: did you want to send me the svg per email or such? | 02:49 |
| Riddell | hi | 02:49 |
| Riddell | http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/g13204.png | 02:49 |
| Riddell | http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Desenho.svg | 02:49 |
| Riddell | kwwii: the g needs fixing, so does the thistle | 02:50 |
| Riddell | kwwii: where are you anyway? | 02:50 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I am in the Bling meeting | 02:50 |
| Riddell | right | 02:50 |
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| marseillai | Riddell: i've done a debdiff for this bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134907 I would like to know what todo for a SRU? it's my first debdiff so may be i've make some mistake | 02:56 |
| ubotu | KDE bug 134907 in Cryptography Plugin "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: woot! | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: did they put that into 3.5.7? | 02:57 |
| marseillai | don't know | 02:57 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: i don't think so it has been solve two days ago | 02:57 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StableReleaseUpdates the slow and painful SRU process | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | woot | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: nice. i'm assuming they havent done those tarballs yet | 02:59 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: yes but i think i'll have some bad time to make my first SRU ... :) | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: oh you will. go ahead :) | 02:59 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: if i send you my debdiff could you tell me if it is clean ??? i would not like loose my time with something dirty | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | go for it. i think this partition is even feisty | 03:00 |
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| Hobbsee | manchicken: what are you discussing over there? | 03:04 |
| manchicken | KDE4 not building. That makes me a sad panda. | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:05 |
| manchicken | You'd know if you'd sit with us ;) | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | well, now lots of gnome people have sat next to me, so i might do that... | 03:05 |
| === Jucato imagines manchicken as a manpanda :D | ||
| manchicken | Yeah. | 03:05 |
| manchicken | Dirty dirty gnomes. | 03:05 |
| === Jucato wonders if [ade] 's blog post have reached GNOME ears already :) | ||
| marseillai | Hobbsee: it seems this bug is yours : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/63221 :p | 03:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 63221 in kdenetwork "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: yes, but i'm not doing the damned sru | 03:06 |
| marseillai | lol | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | i'm allergic to them. | 03:07 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: could you just take a look to my debdiff ??? | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: if you tell me where it is, sure | 03:08 |
| nixternal | good mornin' | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 03:09 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/kopetecryptography.dif | 03:10 |
| nixternal | manchicken: what isn't building for KDE4? having issues with libsctreamanalyzer? | 03:10 |
| manchicken | I'm trying to compile kdelibs from svn, and it's dying around line 122 of kwallet.cpp | 03:10 |
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| nixternal | did you compile strigi and all that first? | 03:14 |
| nixternal | qt-copy, soprano, strigi, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase and so on | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: why's it so big? | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i see | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: check the diff a bit more closely. if you're going to edit in kate, you need to make sure you remove the backup file before diffing them. | 03:16 |
| marseillai | arf | 03:19 |
| marseillai | oki | 03:19 |
| kwwii | Riddell: http://sinecera.de/akademy_long_g.svg | 03:19 |
| kwwii | Riddell: let me know if that is more of what wanted | 03:19 |
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| marseillai | Hobbsee: ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/kopetecryptography.dif | 03:28 |
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| marseillai | it should be good | 03:29 |
| marseillai | bddebian: thanks for your revu for kima! :) | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: it's buggered. you need to start with sourcedir/kopete/....etc | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | not /tmp/foobar/sourcedir/kopete... | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | else it wont patch | 03:29 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:29 |
| bddebian | marseillai: Hi, NP | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: apart from that, looks fine | 03:30 |
| === marseillai will try again | ||
| marseillai | but i don't know why my patch start with this : "/tmp/ ...." | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | because you piped the output, iirc. | 03:33 |
| manchicken | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 <-- Hobbsee | 03:36 |
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| marseillai | Hobbsee: i don't undesrtand. When i run my debdiff i've allways some /tmp/foo/ in my diff files .... | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | because you piped the output, iirc. | 03:40 |
| marseillai | oki | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | thought i answered earlier | 03:41 |
| Riddell | kwwii: g is now good, thankks | 03:41 |
| Riddell | kwwii: thistle could still do with changes | 03:41 |
| manchicken | http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/pardusrepo/sources/ <-- Hobbsee, find dbus there as freedesktop.org is dead. | 03:42 |
| marseillai | it does that even without the pipe .... | 03:42 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee: [Tue May 8 2007] [11:50:01] <Riddell> manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/3.90.1/debs/ | 03:44 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee (and imbrandon as well): KDE4 Porting guide is here -- http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KDE4_Porting_Guide | 03:46 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: i didn't have patchutils installed! :) | 03:46 |
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| sebas | seele: Are you at Linuxtag as well? | 04:10 |
| === marseillai and his poor english don't understand anything to SRU procedure | ||
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| Riddell | marseillai: add debdiff to bug report, subscribe ubuntu-sru, wait for review, upload to -proposed when reviewed | 04:12 |
| Riddell | get testers, wait a week, ask to move to -updates | 04:12 |
| marseillai | oki | 04:12 |
| marseillai | debdiff add | 04:12 |
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| Hobbsee | marseillai: doesnt help :P and the target needs to be feisty-updates, iirc | 04:13 |
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| seele | sebas: yes, Ellen is trying to get me to submit a workshop | 04:14 |
| seele | sebas: there is a Printing meeting going on as well | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | hiya seele | 04:14 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: got an opinion on kde media remove notification? | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hmmm. apart from it "just working"? | 04:15 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: come here (room C I think) and we'll discuss | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | appaers to be D, on the schedule? | 04:15 |
| Riddell | ok, D then | 04:15 |
| seele | hihi Hobbsee | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:19 |
| n8k99 | hi everybody | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 04:20 |
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| Hobbsee | !ping | 04:29 |
| ubotu | pong | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | !ping | 04:30 |
| ubotu | pong | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | :( | 04:30 |
| nixternal | !pong | 04:37 |
| ubotu | pong is an old atari game. It's fun! | 04:37 |
| nixternal | bye | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 04:37 |
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| doc__ | hi | 04:57 |
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| n8k99 | are there plans to make kubuntu mobile embedded | 04:58 |
| Tm_T | done already | 04:58 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: it is? | 04:58 |
| Tm_T | just kidding | 04:58 |
| n8k99 | really? | 04:58 |
| Tm_T | but there's Qtopia-based stuff around :) | 04:59 |
| Tm_T | unfortunately my iPaq doesn't run those yet | 04:59 |
| Riddell | it would be nice to have qtopia packaged | 04:59 |
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| abattoir | hi Tm_T , Riddell :) | 05:00 |
| Jucato | hi abattoir!!!! | 05:00 |
| Riddell | hi abattoir | 05:00 |
| abattoir | hi Jucato :P | 05:01 |
| Tm_T | abattoir: yo! | 05:01 |
| Riddell | abattoir: anything you think we should be discussing at UDS for gutsy? | 05:01 |
| abattoir | Riddell: w.r.t oem-config? i think cjwatson wanted to merge it with ubiquity | 05:01 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i'd love to get marble in if that's possible, and some more cosmetic changes. apart from that, i guess things will change only if the backend changes | 05:02 |
| abattoir | Riddell: just curious... you know if dell would be using the gtk oem-installer? | 05:02 |
| abattoir | Riddell: apart from that, if *noone* is working on porting klavier/onboard to qt4, i'd love to give it a shot | 05:03 |
| === Tm_T wonders if we will get new Edu-apps to gutsy+1 | ||
| Riddell | abattoir: ubiquity wil;l have a new maintainer at the end of the month | 05:03 |
| abattoir | Riddell: oh? who? if i may ask? | 05:04 |
| Riddell | abattoir: marble, we would need to find a way to cut down on the disk space it uses | 05:04 |
| Riddell | tackat did say that should be possible | 05:04 |
| Riddell | abattoir: no idea about dell, I should ask | 05:04 |
| abattoir | Riddell: are you leaving the project or something??? | 05:04 |
| Jucato | Riddell: oh btw, regarding the spec for Dolphin, unless the gdebi port will be finished for Gusty, I guess we also have to make sure that the Kubuntu Package Menu servicemenu works properly in Dolphin | 05:04 |
| Riddell | abattoir: no! | 05:04 |
| abattoir | thank god! | 05:05 |
| Riddell | abattoir: I mean ubiquity will get its own dedicated maintainer employed by canonical | 05:05 |
| Jucato | whew | 05:05 |
| Riddell | Jucato: service menus do work, it's only ark which is a kpart that doesn't | 05:05 |
| Riddell | abattoir: we had this for accessiblity keyboard https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibilityKeyboard | 05:05 |
| Jucato | Riddell: ah that's cool | 05:05 |
| Riddell | kvkbd seems better than klavier and good enough to use | 05:06 |
| Riddell | abattoir: but a port of onboard would be better really | 05:06 |
| Riddell | abattoir: so please go ahead with that :) | 05:06 |
| abattoir | Riddell: noone's working on that for now? or plans to work on that? | 05:06 |
| === abattoir doesn't want to take someone else's cake :) | ||
| Jucato | (and eat it, too) | 05:07 |
| abattoir | :) | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | don't bite me! | 05:07 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| abattoir | Jucato: i thought you can't have it and eat it :) | 05:07 |
| === abattoir runs behind Tm_T to get the cake back | ||
| Jucato | in your case, you can and eat it :) | 05:08 |
| abattoir | but Tm_T has take it :( | 05:08 |
| Riddell | abattoir: no but check with tonio | 05:08 |
| Jucato | Tm_T would make a pretty "interesting" cake :P | 05:08 |
| abattoir | Riddell: ok, i will thanks | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: you wish! | 05:08 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i have exams till the end of the month, but i think i'd be able to finish it by gutsy freeze | 05:08 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: the "interesting" there actually means "weird", "yucky", etc. | 05:09 |
| Jucato | :P | 05:09 |
| Riddell | abattoir: would you be able to write a spec in the next couple of days | 05:09 |
| Riddell | ? | 05:09 |
| === abattoir now hides... from all the people who want to eat other people. | ||
| abattoir | Riddell: ok, how detailed should it be? | 05:09 |
| Riddell | abattoir: looking at the onboard code and seeing which parts should be kept common and which ported to qt (and saying which qt widgets to use) | 05:10 |
| Riddell | quite general, no exact plans | 05:10 |
| Riddell | start a wiki page KubuntuOnboard and use the SpecTemplate spec | 05:10 |
| Riddell | then I can get it reviewed by heno for saneness | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | abattoir: but people are tasty! particularly roasted. | 05:11 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i have looked at it's code briefly before. but exams start on Friday, i'll try my best to get a spec, but i'm really sorry, i can't promise anything, still have a lot of revision left :P | 05:11 |
| Riddell | abattoir: sure, fair enough | 05:11 |
| === abattoir stays away from Hobbsee too :P | ||
| abattoir | Hobbsee: hi btw :) | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 05:16 |
| === marseillai give up for sru .... | ||
| marseillai | Riddell: are you interest by my patch for kde 3.5.7 ? | 05:17 |
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| Riddell | marseillai: yes, but not this week (at conference) | 05:21 |
| marseillai | oki | 05:21 |
| marseillai | no problem | 05:21 |
| Riddell | marseillai: it's for kdepim? | 05:21 |
| marseillai | i'll send it to you when your are back | 05:21 |
| marseillai | Riddell: no for kdenetwork it solve a problem with kopete and decrytpion of GPG message | 05:22 |
| Riddell | marseillai: tried telling #kopete? | 05:22 |
| marseillai | Riddell: it's goff who did the patch but it was two days ago so too late for kde 3.5.7 | 05:23 |
| Riddell | ah, ok | 05:24 |
| Riddell | sure, we'll get it in | 05:24 |
| Riddell | but you need to poke me in a couple of weeks | 05:24 |
| Riddell | I'm on holiday next week actually | 05:24 |
| marseillai | so i'll send you the patch | 05:24 |
| marseillai | no problem | 05:24 |
| marseillai | i make a note in korganizer to keep it in mind | 05:24 |
| Riddell | :) | 05:25 |
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| Riddell | reviewers needed: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuRemoveMedia | 05:52 |
| Riddell | fdoving ^^ | 05:52 |
| === Hobbsee looks | ||
| Riddell | it's short :) | 05:52 |
| === fdoving looks too. | ||
| Hobbsee | found an error | 05:53 |
| Riddell | oh? | 05:54 |
| Riddell | please fix | 05:54 |
| Hobbsee | just finding login details now | 05:54 |
| Hobbsee | done :) | 05:55 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-onboard already seems to exist, should i just create the wiki page? | 06:03 |
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| Riddell | abattoir: sure | 06:06 |
| Riddell | if it doesn't already exist :) | 06:06 |
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| Riddell | manchicken: comments https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-adept-version-locking | 06:13 |
| manchicken | w00t. | 06:13 |
| fdoving | Riddell: I want to re-do the remove-media part. I want to use a shell-script-wrapper instead of the patch. it is more reliable because it'll appear instantly. | 06:16 |
| abattoir | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuOnboard sorry if it's very brief | 06:17 |
| Riddell | fdoving: fancy putting that in the spec? | 06:19 |
| fdoving | Riddell: will do, i have the scripts around too, somewhere. | 06:19 |
| Riddell | abattoir: thanks, I'll add a bit more to it and send it for review | 06:23 |
| abattoir | Riddell: great, thank you :) | 06:23 |
| fdoving | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuRemoveMedia and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946/comments/51 - i'll improve the dialogtext etc. put my name on this. | 06:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,Fix released] | 06:27 |
| fdoving | how are translations handled in shellscripts? | 06:34 |
| fdoving | are/should tr- be. | 06:34 |
| Riddell | mm, they're not | 06:35 |
| fdoving | must be a way to make it. | 06:35 |
| Riddell | try googling for bash and gettext but I suspect nothing may turn up | 06:37 |
| mhb | it is possible, but not widely known and used | 06:37 |
| mhb | or that's what the page I googled told me | 06:37 |
| fdoving | http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#SEC13 | 06:37 |
| fdoving | looks doable. | 06:37 |
| fdoving | i'll figure it out. | 06:37 |
| toma | fdoving: make a small kde app which only outputs that text ;-) | 06:38 |
| fdoving | toma: sure, instead of "Text" inside the script :) | 06:38 |
| fdoving | toma: actually.. your proposal might not be so bad after all.. i could make the nice progressbar too... instead of kdialog. | 06:39 |
| marseillai | Riddell: i drop my patch to trash because kde 3.5.7 has not been yet tag so there is no need for my patch! :( sorry for distrubing | 06:39 |
| Riddell | marseillai: ok, that makes things easier | 06:40 |
| marseillai | yes | 06:40 |
| marseillai | but i'm a little bit sad my work was useless | 06:41 |
| fdoving | i can make the wrapper a kde program instead of bash. | 06:41 |
| marseillai | my first work in main | 06:41 |
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| nixternal | whew it is a hot one here in Chicago today | 06:54 |
| nixternal | manchicken: did you get kde4 to compile? | 07:01 |
| nixternal | I know with the packages for Riddell, all of them bomb out with libstreamanalyzer.so | 07:01 |
| nixternal | so I am wondering about the strigi and libstrigi builds | 07:01 |
| manchicken | nixternal: It's on its way still. | 07:06 |
| manchicken | I had to recompile qt-copy | 07:06 |
| nixternal | ya, if you donn't get qt-copy correct nothing else is going to work out for you | 07:10 |
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| sebas | seele: Cool. I'll be there too. | 08:29 |
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| \sh | sebas, nice article btw on planet | 08:46 |
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| mhb | nice and quiet now that everyone is in one timezone :o) | 11:08 |
| Tm_T | bah | 11:09 |
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