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[09:16] allee: right hand corner === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:20] must be fun :) [09:21] Jucato: it's overcrowded over here ;) [09:21] a.k.a. overcrowded fun :) [09:24] hi === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:27] heh Tonio_ said he gained weight... but from the looks of it, not that much :) [09:27] no, tonio's pretty thin [09:27] allee: er, better make that left hand corner [09:27] Hobbsee: heh, found you. Thx for the tip [09:28] Hobbsee: that's what I know. :) [09:28] and you. :P [09:28] lol what a nice way to meet in real life? :D [09:28] s/?/!/ [09:29] Jucato: we've met before - i just hadnt seen him this morning [09:29] aaah :) [09:30] heh it's just like me sending a text message to my mom, asking her where she was. and she was just standing outside the house :) [09:30] hehe [09:32] eh, that happens all the time. I IRC my students, even. [09:32] normally they're down the hall in one of the UNIX labs. === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:33] :) [09:33] crimsun: always fun, yes === Jucato wonders if the CS college in the university he went to knows anything about *nix... [09:33] crimsun: most poeple are on their laptops, typing, it seems [09:33] or playing games [09:34] during these demos [09:34] heh :) [09:35] Is this lady happy or what? :D http://foodfight.org/fotos/2007/05-07 UDS Sevilla/00046.jpg [09:35] (bah silly konversation parsing!) [09:36] twitch [09:36] Riddell: the svg is in the works [09:36] there are other photos - but they're all bad, of me [09:36] hehe :) [09:36] at least now you have photos :D [09:36] oh hi kwwii! :D [09:36] howdy Jucato [09:38] mornin kwwii [09:38] moin allee [09:38] hm.. morning... :) === ajmitch will need to find some more photos [09:41] will we have incriminating photos of Hobbsee as well? :D [09:42] I'm sure we can find some [09:42] hopefully not... === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:43] heh :) [09:43] half the fun of a UDS is incriminating fotos. [09:43] yes! more more!! === jokky911 [n=m_salah9@196.219.111.52] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Tonio_ [i=tonio@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-adf578786ee5ba17] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [i=manchkn@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-f4dda08eede407fd] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:19] morning [10:19] hi mhb [10:21] mmm, photos === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [i=sfs@nat/ibm/x-41c1607d569b838f] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ded_ [n=ded@lor34-1-82-240-239-109.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:49] freeflying: try hunger for kcall [10:49] kphone, I don't know anyone who uses [10:49] well, Tonio_ knows all about voip stuff from looking into it before [10:50] Riddell: okay [10:51] Riddell: There are some users for kcall. [10:52] yop [10:52] How about twinkle, I can't find kcall in archive [10:52] freeflying: twinkle is very nice, but configuration is a mess for the user [10:53] btw, that's probably the best choice atm [10:53] freeflying: depends what you want in fact [10:53] freeflying: want a pure sip software ? then twinkle is the one [10:53] Tonio_: I just use it for uds's voip [10:53] freeflying: and both kcall and kphone are unmaintained afaik [10:53] freeflying: twinkle then [10:54] freeflying: sorry I thought that was another discussion about voip solution for kubuntu [10:55] hi Tonio_, hi Riddell. saw pictures of you two :) [10:55] Tonio_: I mean for UDS voip meeting use :) === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.1.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:55] Jucato: where ? :) [10:56] from manchicken's blog post (Riddell doesn't look too happy in that pic :P) [10:56] Tonio_: and I thought you said you gained weight? :P [10:57] http://blog.notsosoft.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/dscn0424_1.jpg [10:57] Jucato: already lost it ;) [10:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ! [10:57] that fast? wow! [10:57] oh hi there _StefanS_ :) [10:57] <_StefanS_> hey Jucatohh [10:59] _StefanS_: are you at UDS? [10:59] <_StefanS_> not really. [10:59] <_StefanS_> I'm at work in here in DK [10:59] aw... [10:59] <_StefanS_> isn't it over btw, ? [11:00] is it? [11:00] <_StefanS_> think so [11:01] :( [11:01] <_StefanS_> no [11:01] <_StefanS_> its the whole week it seems [11:01] <_StefanS_> until friday 11th [11:02] heh I misread that as the 13th :D [11:06] Jucato: I have a specific stomac, got an operation when I was born [11:07] Jucato: I can loose weight very, very quickly, even eating twice as much as the average people ;) [11:07] Jucato: somehow that helps :) [11:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: you still at uds? [11:07] Tonio_: oh I envy you soooo much :) [11:08] _StefanS_: sure, till the end of the week [11:08] Jucato: you shouldn't, I wouldn't describe the problems that causes but there are a lot [11:08] <_StefanS_> I'm amazed that conference phones hasn't gotten any better the past years... oh well [11:08] stomac hurting every day, things like that [11:09] aw... ok not so envious anymore :) [11:11] Jucato: well I've had those problems for 29 years, just get used to it :) [11:12] O.o [11:23] Tonio_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDolphinByDefault [11:24] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: would you have the time to include that patch for kubuntu i sent earlier (If thats okay with you Riddell) [11:25] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm kinda anxious to see it working [11:28] _StefanS_: will do this WE only I guess [11:28] hmm, the spec does not say how the "kubuntu intro page" is going to be handled [11:28] _StefanS_: is that an emergency ? I cna build packageqs for gutsy right now [11:28] Riddell: ^^ the dolphin one [11:29] mhb: intro page? [11:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: its not like an emergency, so lets just wait till next week where Riddell already said it could be done.. [11:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I [11:30] Riddell: I think it's about:konqueror or something (now) [11:30] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm far to rushy I think :) [11:30] mhb: dolphin supports ioslaves [11:30] mhb: no issue on that point [11:31] mhb: we won't have that [11:31] Tonio_: I didn't mean not supporting ioslaves [11:31] unless you start konqueror, which people will for web browsing [11:31] I mean some people are used to access the home dir that way [11:32] Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibilityKeyboard hope that's okay [11:34] Riddell: so there isn't going to be any "welcome" screen like that in dolphin? [11:34] It's nice to know that you all have noticed the complete and total awesomeness of my blog. [11:34] mhb: dolphin is a pure file manager [11:34] Tonio_: true [11:34] Tonio_: I don't argue with that [11:35] mhb: it'll open in ~/ and that's all :) [11:35] Tonio_: hmm [11:36] <_StefanS_> whats the kubuntu-bluetooth workshop about ? - bluetooth enabled by default ? :) [11:36] Tonio_: what about people that are used to opening "Remote places" through the konqueror about page? [11:38] mhb: the sidebar in Dolphin [11:38] mhb: they'll have to change back to konqueror [11:38] eh? [11:39] they will have to switch with kde4 btw === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:39] mhb: you have the remove places via kicker [11:39] the system applet [11:39] true [11:39] the default entries in Dolphin's sidebar has a Network entry which is the same as remote:/ [11:40] Tonio_: it is not a great idea from a usability point of view to remove "features" without considering the users [11:41] in my opinion, this is not a thing only 1% of the users do [11:41] mhb: we are not removing things [11:41] we are just adding an alternative to konqueror [11:41] and we will not get rid of the fucking konqueror [11:42] !language [11:42] mhb: I think Tonio_ is also considering helping users adjust to KDE 4 as well [11:42] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [11:42] <_StefanS_> hehe [11:42] so that's I guess the point :) [11:42] Served! Served! Served! Served! [11:42] mhb: ;) [11:42] not actually [11:42] Tonio_: I do have one suggestion though. Please also make it easy to switch back to Konqueror as well [11:42] :) [11:43] mhb: It's not such a bad idea to have a more specific program that does one thing well. [11:43] that's not what I'm arguing against [11:43] Jucato: read the SPEC !!!!!!!! [11:43] it is already in it [11:43] I mean - is my english that bad? [11:43] we will not implement anything if people cannot switch back in 2 clicks [11:43] Tonio_: I've read it. but not everyone will :) [11:43] all I'm saying is that people *may* be confused with the "intro" page now missing [11:44] mhb: but that's Konqueror's intro page, not Dolphin. unless an intro page will be implemented upstream, I don't think we should change that in Dolphin [11:45] besides, they're bound to be more confused that Dolphin is launched by default anyway ;) [11:47] perhaps this particular point is not that important, but that spec should address transition issues [11:48] I mean usability transition issues, the technical ones are there === Jucato thought that helping with the transition was actually the point of the spec :) [11:49] <_StefanS_> it would be nice to have a sort of way to change, say like the default browser throughout all of kubuntu (including gtk apps) [11:49] <_StefanS_> and email application and so on.. [11:49] mhb: I'm sure that will be considered. the spec was just written now :) [11:49] _StefanS_: there's a CLI way to do that already. [11:49] but a GUI way would involve packaging kalternatives and installing it by default [11:49] <_StefanS_> Jucato: yes exacltly. [11:49] <_StefanS_> GUI [11:50] manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/3.90.1/debs/ [11:50] <_StefanS_> is preferred :D [11:50] (but we're actually trying to advertise Konqueror and KMail, so we won't do that) [11:50] _StefanS_: Default Applications should handle that [11:50] _StefanS_: or am I wrong? [11:50] mhb: nope. it only affects KDE apps [11:50] <_StefanS_> mhb: well it should. But doesnt [11:50] <_StefanS_> only KDE apps [11:51] <_StefanS_> gotta go to lunch. [11:51] _StefanS_: actually, it "shouldn't" [11:51] :) [11:51] I also think it "should" [11:51] have fun masticating and digesting [11:52] well, have fun arguing for the rest of the day :o) [11:52] mhb: we probably need a more specific/generic utility for it. because it's a setting that affects not just KDE, but the whole system [11:52] <_StefanS_> right. [11:52] there's galternatives and kalternatives as frontends for update-alternatives === _StefanS_ is away: lunch.. [11:54] !away > _StefanS_ [11:54] :P === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:59] Jucato: yes, a system-wide "Default Applications" module for kcmshell sounds sensible to me [12:00] mhb: kalternatives is actually kcontrol module. unfortunately, we don't have a package for it [12:00] hmm [12:00] it's in kdeutils (upstream) iirc [12:01] ah na, kdeonbeta [12:01] Jucato: what's that? [12:04] Jucato: sorry, just read that === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.1.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44625.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [i=kwwii@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-1774b26ad71ea53b] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] can anyone suggest a simple CMS for publishing text and pictures basically? [12:49] <_StefanS_> fdoving: have you checked the opensourcecms.org ? [12:49] <_StefanS_> fdoving: lets you preview them easily [12:50] _StefanS_: no, i haven't thanks. i'm testing joomla currently. [12:50] <_StefanS_> err.. well that wasn't the correct [12:50] <_StefanS_> 2secs [12:50] it wasn't the correct 2 seconds? O.o [12:50] <_StefanS_> http://opensourcecms.com/ [12:51] <_StefanS_> Jucato: bah :P [12:51] thanks. [12:51] <_StefanS_> np [12:51] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I dont know if that kinda gave you 'information overload', but there you have it :D [12:52] i checked that joomla has a good rating, then closed the site :) [12:52] hm? [12:52] closed the browser window.. i mean. [12:53] heh :) === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-116-7.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@121.32.162.253] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@M3176P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [01:17] hi === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:48] <_StefanS_> hi === marseillai is looking for one more +1 here : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5077 [01:50] <_StefanS_> marseillai: what? [01:51] _StefanS_: are you motu ? [01:51] <_StefanS_> marseillai: no sorry [01:51] because i've package KIMA and he needs one more yes to be accept [01:51] <_StefanS_> go to #ubuntu-motu [01:51] <_StefanS_> I think thats whats its called [01:52] _StefanS_: no thanks [01:52] That's correct. [01:52] when i go to ubuntu-motu no one takes care of what i say .... [01:52] marseillai: A lot of people are away this week, so have patience. [01:52] i've been allways more lucky here or on ubuntu-fr-classroom [01:53] Well the people who can approve your package mostly hang out on #ubuntu-motu. Try it or not, your choice. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.6.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:05] will anyone be at LinuxTag? [02:06] not I, but kwwii is talking [02:06] I think sebas is going [02:06] ok [02:06] id like to meet with anyone who is interested to go over the usability study [02:06] and there's a kubuntu stall with mirjam [02:07] all the testing is done, but people are still working on reports so i dont have complete results yet === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === kwwii [i=kwwii@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-7b01db1da6be5732] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [i=ach@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-494d685d36380abb] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44625.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [i=manchkn@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-3e0dd9687d8fa6f0] has joined #kubuntu-devel === doc__ [n=doc@15.Red-80-37-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:29] hi there === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [i=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:42] hi Hobbsee [02:44] hi Tm_T, how's it going? [02:44] mostly fine thanks :) [02:45] middle of moving to new home, so back hurts but that's minor === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] Riddell: did you want to send me the svg per email or such? [02:49] hi [02:49] http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/g13204.png [02:49] http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Desenho.svg [02:50] kwwii: the g needs fixing, so does the thistle [02:50] kwwii: where are you anyway? [02:50] Riddell: I am in the Bling meeting [02:50] right === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.218.224.217] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:56] Riddell: i've done a debdiff for this bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134907 I would like to know what todo for a SRU? it's my first debdiff so may be i've make some mistake [02:56] KDE bug 134907 in Cryptography Plugin "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [02:56] marseillai: woot! [02:57] marseillai: did they put that into 3.5.7? [02:57] don't know [02:57] Hobbsee: i don't think so it has been solve two days ago [02:57] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StableReleaseUpdates the slow and painful SRU process [02:58] woot [02:59] marseillai: nice. i'm assuming they havent done those tarballs yet [02:59] Hobbsee: yes but i think i'll have some bad time to make my first SRU ... :) [02:59] marseillai: oh you will. go ahead :) [03:00] Hobbsee: if i send you my debdiff could you tell me if it is clean ??? i would not like loose my time with something dirty [03:00] go for it. i think this partition is even feisty === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:04] manchicken: what are you discussing over there? [03:04] KDE4 not building. That makes me a sad panda. [03:05] hehe [03:05] You'd know if you'd sit with us ;) [03:05] well, now lots of gnome people have sat next to me, so i might do that... === Jucato imagines manchicken as a manpanda :D [03:05] Yeah. [03:05] Dirty dirty gnomes. === Jucato wonders if [ade] 's blog post have reached GNOME ears already :) [03:06] Hobbsee: it seems this bug is yours : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/63221 :p [03:06] Launchpad bug 63221 in kdenetwork "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:06] marseillai: yes, but i'm not doing the damned sru [03:07] lol [03:07] i'm allergic to them. [03:07] Hobbsee: could you just take a look to my debdiff ??? [03:08] marseillai: if you tell me where it is, sure [03:08] good mornin' [03:09] hi nixternal [03:10] Hobbsee: ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/kopetecryptography.dif [03:10] manchicken: what isn't building for KDE4? having issues with libsctreamanalyzer? [03:10] I'm trying to compile kdelibs from svn, and it's dying around line 122 of kwallet.cpp === doc__ [n=doc@15.Red-80-37-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] did you compile strigi and all that first? [03:15] qt-copy, soprano, strigi, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase and so on [03:16] marseillai: why's it so big? [03:16] oh, i see [03:16] marseillai: check the diff a bit more closely. if you're going to edit in kate, you need to make sure you remove the backup file before diffing them. [03:19] arf [03:19] oki [03:19] Riddell: http://sinecera.de/akademy_long_g.svg [03:19] Riddell: let me know if that is more of what wanted === jokky911 [n=m_salah9@196.219.111.52] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jokky911 [n=m_salah9@196.219.111.52] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:28] Hobbsee: ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/kopetecryptography.dif === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] it should be good [03:29] bddebian: thanks for your revu for kima! :) [03:29] marseillai: it's buggered. you need to start with sourcedir/kopete/....etc [03:29] not /tmp/foobar/sourcedir/kopete... [03:29] else it wont patch [03:29] Heya gang [03:29] marseillai: Hi, NP [03:30] marseillai: apart from that, looks fine === marseillai will try again [03:32] but i don't know why my patch start with this : "/tmp/ ...." [03:33] because you piped the output, iirc. [03:36] http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 <-- Hobbsee === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.6.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] Hobbsee: i don't undesrtand. When i run my debdiff i've allways some /tmp/foo/ in my diff files .... [03:40] because you piped the output, iirc. [03:41] oki [03:41] thought i answered earlier [03:41] kwwii: g is now good, thankks [03:41] kwwii: thistle could still do with changes [03:42] http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/pardusrepo/sources/ <-- Hobbsee, find dbus there as freedesktop.org is dead. [03:42] it does that even without the pipe .... [03:44] Hobbsee: [Tue May 8 2007] [11:50:01] manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/3.90.1/debs/ [03:46] Hobbsee (and imbrandon as well): KDE4 Porting guide is here -- http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KDE4_Porting_Guide [03:46] Hobbsee: i didn't have patchutils installed! :) === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F2C2C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] seele: Are you at Linuxtag as well? === marseillai and his poor english don't understand anything to SRU procedure === alleeHol [i=ach@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-6dadaf7193dadede] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] marseillai: add debdiff to bug report, subscribe ubuntu-sru, wait for review, upload to -proposed when reviewed [04:12] get testers, wait a week, ask to move to -updates [04:12] oki [04:12] debdiff add === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:13] marseillai: doesnt help :P and the target needs to be feisty-updates, iirc === jdong_ is now known as jdong [04:14] sebas: yes, Ellen is trying to get me to submit a workshop [04:14] sebas: there is a Printing meeting going on as well [04:14] hiya seele [04:14] Hobbsee: got an opinion on kde media remove notification? [04:15] Riddell: hmmm. apart from it "just working"? [04:15] Hobbsee: come here (room C I think) and we'll discuss [04:15] appaers to be D, on the schedule? [04:15] ok, D then [04:17] hihi Hobbsee [04:19] :) [04:20] hi everybody [04:20] hiya === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] !ping [04:29] pong [04:30] !ping [04:30] pong [04:30] :( [04:37] !pong [04:37] pong is an old atari game. It's fun! [04:37] bye [04:37] lol === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm21.epsilon48.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-218.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === doc__ [n=doc@15.Red-80-37-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:57] hi === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:58] are there plans to make kubuntu mobile embedded [04:58] done already [04:58] Tm_T: it is? [04:58] just kidding [04:58] really? [04:59] but there's Qtopia-based stuff around :) [04:59] unfortunately my iPaq doesn't run those yet [04:59] it would be nice to have qtopia packaged === n8k99 was just reading BBC news/Ubuntu/Intel mobile embedded announcement [05:00] hi Tm_T , Riddell :) [05:00] hi abattoir!!!! [05:00] hi abattoir [05:01] hi Jucato :P [05:01] abattoir: yo! [05:01] abattoir: anything you think we should be discussing at UDS for gutsy? [05:01] Riddell: w.r.t oem-config? i think cjwatson wanted to merge it with ubiquity [05:02] Riddell: i'd love to get marble in if that's possible, and some more cosmetic changes. apart from that, i guess things will change only if the backend changes [05:02] Riddell: just curious... you know if dell would be using the gtk oem-installer? [05:03] Riddell: apart from that, if *noone* is working on porting klavier/onboard to qt4, i'd love to give it a shot === Tm_T wonders if we will get new Edu-apps to gutsy+1 [05:03] abattoir: ubiquity wil;l have a new maintainer at the end of the month [05:04] Riddell: oh? who? if i may ask? [05:04] abattoir: marble, we would need to find a way to cut down on the disk space it uses [05:04] tackat did say that should be possible [05:04] abattoir: no idea about dell, I should ask [05:04] Riddell: are you leaving the project or something??? [05:04] Riddell: oh btw, regarding the spec for Dolphin, unless the gdebi port will be finished for Gusty, I guess we also have to make sure that the Kubuntu Package Menu servicemenu works properly in Dolphin [05:04] abattoir: no! [05:05] thank god! [05:05] abattoir: I mean ubiquity will get its own dedicated maintainer employed by canonical [05:05] whew [05:05] Jucato: service menus do work, it's only ark which is a kpart that doesn't [05:05] abattoir: we had this for accessiblity keyboard https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibilityKeyboard [05:05] Riddell: ah that's cool [05:06] kvkbd seems better than klavier and good enough to use [05:06] abattoir: but a port of onboard would be better really [05:06] abattoir: so please go ahead with that :) [05:06] Riddell: noone's working on that for now? or plans to work on that? === abattoir doesn't want to take someone else's cake :) [05:07] (and eat it, too) [05:07] :) [05:07] don't bite me! === Tm_T hides [05:07] Jucato: i thought you can't have it and eat it :) === abattoir runs behind Tm_T to get the cake back [05:08] in your case, you can and eat it :) [05:08] but Tm_T has take it :( [05:08] abattoir: no but check with tonio [05:08] Tm_T would make a pretty "interesting" cake :P [05:08] Riddell: ok, i will thanks [05:08] Jucato: you wish! [05:08] Riddell: i have exams till the end of the month, but i think i'd be able to finish it by gutsy freeze [05:09] Tm_T: the "interesting" there actually means "weird", "yucky", etc. [05:09] :P [05:09] abattoir: would you be able to write a spec in the next couple of days [05:09] ? === abattoir now hides... from all the people who want to eat other people. [05:09] Riddell: ok, how detailed should it be? [05:10] abattoir: looking at the onboard code and seeing which parts should be kept common and which ported to qt (and saying which qt widgets to use) [05:10] quite general, no exact plans [05:10] start a wiki page KubuntuOnboard and use the SpecTemplate spec [05:11] then I can get it reviewed by heno for saneness [05:11] abattoir: but people are tasty! particularly roasted. [05:11] Riddell: i have looked at it's code briefly before. but exams start on Friday, i'll try my best to get a spec, but i'm really sorry, i can't promise anything, still have a lot of revision left :P [05:11] abattoir: sure, fair enough === abattoir stays away from Hobbsee too :P [05:11] Hobbsee: hi btw :) [05:16] hiya === marseillai give up for sru .... [05:17] Riddell: are you interest by my patch for kde 3.5.7 ? === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44625.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@198.105.65.211] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:21] marseillai: yes, but not this week (at conference) [05:21] oki [05:21] no problem [05:21] marseillai: it's for kdepim? [05:21] i'll send it to you when your are back [05:22] Riddell: no for kdenetwork it solve a problem with kopete and decrytpion of GPG message [05:22] marseillai: tried telling #kopete? [05:23] Riddell: it's goff who did the patch but it was two days ago so too late for kde 3.5.7 [05:24] ah, ok [05:24] sure, we'll get it in [05:24] but you need to poke me in a couple of weeks [05:24] I'm on holiday next week actually [05:24] so i'll send you the patch [05:24] no problem [05:24] i make a note in korganizer to keep it in mind [05:25] :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [i=kwwii@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-e3ef047f90482001] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@124.106.192.39] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [i=ach@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-67e42fb0a42ac336] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.6.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180068242.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:52] reviewers needed: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuRemoveMedia [05:52] fdoving ^^ === Hobbsee looks [05:52] it's short :) === fdoving looks too. [05:53] found an error [05:54] oh? [05:54] please fix [05:54] just finding login details now [05:55] done :) === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:03] Riddell: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-onboard already seems to exist, should i just create the wiki page? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:06] abattoir: sure [06:06] if it doesn't already exist :) === rouzic_ [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:13] manchicken: comments https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-adept-version-locking [06:13] w00t. [06:16] Riddell: I want to re-do the remove-media part. I want to use a shell-script-wrapper instead of the patch. it is more reliable because it'll appear instantly. [06:17] Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuOnboard sorry if it's very brief [06:19] fdoving: fancy putting that in the spec? [06:19] Riddell: will do, i have the scripts around too, somewhere. [06:23] abattoir: thanks, I'll add a bit more to it and send it for review [06:23] Riddell: great, thank you :) [06:27] Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuRemoveMedia and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946/comments/51 - i'll improve the dialogtext etc. put my name on this. [06:27] Launchpad bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,Fix released] [06:34] how are translations handled in shellscripts? [06:34] are/should tr- be. [06:35] mm, they're not [06:35]