[02:27] <marseillai> anyone to revu kima : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5076 ??
[02:28] <marseillai> it's a kicker applet
[09:16] <Hobbsee> heya allee!
[09:16] <Hobbsee> allee: right hand corner
[09:20] <Jucato> must be fun :)
[09:21] <allee> Jucato: it's overcrowded over here ;)
[09:21] <Jucato> a.k.a. overcrowded fun :)
[09:24] <jokky911> hi
[09:27] <Jucato> heh Tonio_ said he gained weight... but from the looks of it, not that much :)
[09:27] <Hobbsee> no, tonio's pretty thin
[09:27] <Hobbsee> allee: er, better make that left hand corner
[09:27] <allee> Hobbsee: heh, found you.  Thx for the tip
[09:28] <Jucato> Hobbsee: that's what I know. :)
[09:28] <Hobbsee> and you.  :P
[09:28] <Jucato> lol what a nice way to meet in real life? :D
[09:28] <Jucato> s/?/!/
[09:29] <Hobbsee> Jucato: we've met before - i just hadnt seen him this morning
[09:29] <Jucato> aaah :)
[09:30] <Jucato> heh it's just like me sending a text message to my mom, asking her where she was. and she was just standing outside the house :)
[09:30] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:32] <crimsun> eh, that happens all the time.  I IRC my students, even.
[09:32] <crimsun> normally they're down the hall in one of the UNIX labs.
[09:33] <Jucato> :)
[09:33] <Hobbsee> crimsun: always fun, yes
[09:33] <Hobbsee> crimsun: most poeple are on their laptops, typing, it seems
[09:33] <Hobbsee> or playing games
[09:34] <Hobbsee> during these demos
[09:34] <Jucato> heh :)
[09:35] <Jucato> Is this lady happy or what? :D http://foodfight.org/fotos/2007/05-07 UDS Sevilla/00046.jpg
[09:35] <Jucato> (bah silly konversation parsing!)
[09:36] <Hobbsee> twitch
[09:36] <kwwii> Riddell: the svg is in the works
[09:36] <Hobbsee> there are other photos - but they're all bad, of me
[09:36] <Jucato> hehe :)
[09:36] <Jucato> at least now you have photos :D
[09:36] <Jucato> oh hi kwwii! :D
[09:36] <kwwii> howdy Jucato
[09:38] <allee> mornin kwwii
[09:38] <kwwii> moin allee
[09:38] <Jucato> hm.. morning... :)
[09:41] <Jucato> will we have incriminating photos of Hobbsee as well? :D
[09:42] <ajmitch> I'm sure we can find some
[09:42] <Hobbsee> hopefully not...
[09:43] <Jucato> heh :)
[09:43] <crimsun> half the fun of a UDS is incriminating fotos.
[09:43] <Jucato> yes! more more!!
[10:19] <mhb> morning
[10:19] <Hobbsee> hi mhb
[10:21] <mhb> mmm, photos
[10:49] <Riddell> freeflying: try hunger for kcall
[10:49] <Riddell> kphone, I don't know anyone who uses
[10:49] <Riddell> well, Tonio_ knows all about voip stuff from looking into it before
[10:50] <freeflying> Riddell: okay
[10:51] <hunger> Riddell: There are some users for kcall.
[10:52] <Tonio_> yop
[10:52] <freeflying> How about twinkle, I can't find kcall in archive
[10:52] <Tonio_> freeflying: twinkle is very nice, but configuration is a mess for the user
[10:53] <Tonio_> btw, that's probably the best choice atm
[10:53] <Tonio_> freeflying: depends what you want in fact
[10:53] <Tonio_> freeflying: want a pure sip software ? then twinkle is the one
[10:53] <freeflying> Tonio_: I just use it for uds's voip
[10:53] <Tonio_> freeflying: and both kcall and kphone are unmaintained afaik
[10:53] <Tonio_> freeflying: twinkle then
[10:54] <Tonio_> freeflying: sorry I thought that was another discussion about voip solution for kubuntu
[10:55] <Jucato> hi Tonio_, hi Riddell. saw pictures of you two :)
[10:55] <freeflying> Tonio_: I mean for UDS voip meeting use  :)
[10:55] <Tonio_> Jucato: where ? :)
[10:56] <Jucato> from manchicken's blog post (Riddell doesn't look too happy in that pic :P)
[10:56] <Jucato> Tonio_: and I thought you said you gained weight? :P
[10:57] <Jucato> http://blog.notsosoft.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/dscn0424_1.jpg
[10:57] <Tonio_> Jucato: already lost it ;)
[10:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: !
[10:57] <Jucato> that fast? wow!
[10:57] <Jucato> oh hi there _StefanS_ :)
[10:57] <_StefanS_> hey Jucatohh
[10:59] <Jucato> _StefanS_: are you at UDS?
[10:59] <_StefanS_> not really.
[10:59] <_StefanS_> I'm at work in here in DK
[10:59] <Jucato> aw...
[10:59] <_StefanS_> isn't it over btw, ?
[11:00] <Jucato> is it?
[11:00] <_StefanS_> think so
[11:01] <Jucato> :(
[11:01] <_StefanS_> no
[11:01] <_StefanS_> its the whole week it seems
[11:01] <_StefanS_> until friday 11th
[11:02] <Jucato> heh I misread that as the 13th :D
[11:06] <Tonio_> Jucato: I have a specific stomac, got an operation when I was born
[11:07] <Tonio_> Jucato: I can loose weight very, very quickly, even eating twice as much as the average people ;)
[11:07] <Tonio_> Jucato: somehow that helps :)
[11:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: you still at uds?
[11:07] <Jucato> Tonio_: oh I envy you soooo much :)
[11:08] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: sure, till the end of the week
[11:08] <Tonio_> Jucato: you shouldn't, I wouldn't describe the problems that causes but there are a lot
[11:08] <_StefanS_> I'm amazed that conference phones hasn't gotten any better the past years... oh well
[11:08] <Tonio_> stomac hurting every day, things like that
[11:09] <Jucato> aw... ok not so envious anymore :)
[11:11] <Tonio_> Jucato: well I've had those problems for 29 years, just get used to it :)
[11:12] <Jucato> O.o
[11:23] <Riddell> Tonio_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDolphinByDefault
[11:24] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: would you have the time to include that patch for kubuntu i sent earlier (If thats okay with you Riddell)
[11:25] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm kinda anxious to see it working
[11:28] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: will do this WE only I guess
[11:28] <mhb> hmm, the spec does not say how the "kubuntu intro page" is going to be handled
[11:28] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: is that an emergency ? I cna build packageqs for gutsy right now
[11:28] <mhb> Riddell: ^^ the dolphin one
[11:29] <Riddell> mhb: intro page?
[11:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: its not like an emergency, so lets just wait till next week where Riddell already said it could be done..
[11:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I
[11:30] <mhb> Riddell: I think it's about:konqueror or something (now)
[11:30] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm far to rushy I think :)
[11:30] <Tonio_> mhb: dolphin supports ioslaves
[11:30] <Tonio_> mhb: no issue on that point
[11:31] <Riddell> mhb: we won't have that
[11:31] <mhb> Tonio_: I didn't mean not supporting ioslaves
[11:31] <Riddell> unless you start konqueror, which people will for web browsing
[11:31] <mhb> I mean some people are used to access the home dir that way
[11:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibilityKeyboard hope that's okay
[11:34] <mhb> Riddell: so there isn't going to be any "welcome" screen like that in dolphin?
[11:34] <manchicken> It's nice to know that you all have noticed the complete and total awesomeness of my blog.
[11:34] <Tonio_> mhb: dolphin is a pure file manager
[11:34] <mhb> Tonio_: true
[11:34] <mhb> Tonio_: I don't argue with that
[11:35] <Tonio_> mhb: it'll open in ~/ and that's all :)
[11:35] <mhb> Tonio_: hmm
[11:36] <_StefanS_> whats the kubuntu-bluetooth workshop about ? - bluetooth enabled by default ? :)
[11:36] <mhb> Tonio_: what about people that are used to opening "Remote places" through the konqueror about page?
[11:38] <Jucato> mhb: the sidebar in Dolphin
[11:38] <Tonio_> mhb: they'll have to change back to konqueror
[11:38] <mhb> eh?
[11:39] <Tonio_> they will have to switch with kde4 btw
[11:39] <Tonio_> mhb: you have the remove places via kicker
[11:39] <Tonio_> the system applet
[11:39] <mhb> true
[11:39] <Jucato> the default entries in Dolphin's sidebar has a Network entry which is the same as remote:/
[11:40] <mhb> Tonio_: it is not a great idea from a usability point of view to remove "features" without considering the users
[11:41] <mhb> in my opinion, this is not a thing only 1% of the users do
[11:41] <Tonio_> mhb: we are not removing things
[11:41] <Tonio_> we are just adding an alternative to konqueror
[11:41] <Tonio_> and we will not get rid of the fucking konqueror
[11:42] <Riddell> !language
[11:42] <Jucato> mhb: I think Tonio_ is also considering helping users adjust to KDE 4 as well
[11:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:42] <_StefanS_> hehe
[11:42] <Tonio_> so that's I guess the point :)
[11:42] <manchicken> Served!  Served!  Served!  Served!
[11:42] <Tonio_> mhb:  ;)
[11:42] <mhb> not actually
[11:42] <Jucato> Tonio_: I do have one suggestion though. Please also make it easy to switch back to Konqueror as well
[11:42] <Jucato> :)
[11:43] <manchicken> mhb: It's not such a bad idea to have a more specific program that does one thing well.
[11:43] <mhb> that's not what I'm arguing against
[11:43] <Tonio_> Jucato: read the SPEC !!!!!!!!
[11:43] <Tonio_> it is already in it
[11:43] <mhb> I mean - is my english that bad?
[11:43] <Tonio_> we will not implement anything if people cannot switch back in 2 clicks
[11:43] <Jucato> Tonio_: I've read it. but not everyone will :)
[11:43] <mhb> all I'm saying is that people *may* be confused with the "intro" page now missing
[11:44] <Jucato> mhb: but that's Konqueror's intro page, not Dolphin. unless an intro page will be implemented upstream, I don't think we should change that in Dolphin
[11:45] <Jucato> besides, they're bound to be more confused that Dolphin is launched by default anyway ;)
[11:47] <mhb> perhaps this particular point is not that important, but that spec should address transition issues
[11:48] <mhb> I mean usability transition issues, the technical ones are there
[11:49] <_StefanS_> it would be nice to have a sort of way to change, say like the default browser throughout all of kubuntu (including gtk apps)
[11:49] <_StefanS_> and email application and so on..
[11:49] <Jucato> mhb: I'm sure that will be considered. the spec was just written now :)
[11:49] <Jucato> _StefanS_: there's a CLI way to do that already.
[11:49] <Jucato> but a GUI way would involve packaging kalternatives and installing it by default
[11:49] <_StefanS_> Jucato: yes exacltly.
[11:49] <_StefanS_> GUI
[11:50] <Riddell> manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/3.90.1/debs/
[11:50] <_StefanS_> is preferred :D
[11:50] <Jucato> (but we're actually trying to advertise Konqueror and KMail, so we won't do that)
[11:50] <mhb> _StefanS_: Default Applications should handle that
[11:50] <mhb> _StefanS_: or am I wrong?
[11:50] <Jucato> mhb: nope. it only affects KDE apps
[11:50] <_StefanS_> mhb: well it should. But doesnt
[11:50] <_StefanS_> only KDE apps
[11:51] <_StefanS_> gotta go to lunch.
[11:51] <Jucato> _StefanS_: actually, it "shouldn't"
[11:51] <Jucato> :)
[11:51] <mhb> I also think it "should"
[11:51] <Jucato> have fun masticating and digesting
[11:52] <mhb> well, have fun arguing for the rest of the day :o)
[11:52] <Jucato> mhb: we probably need a more specific/generic utility for it. because it's a setting that affects not just KDE, but the whole system
[11:52] <_StefanS_> right.
[11:52] <Jucato> there's galternatives and kalternatives as frontends for update-alternatives
[11:54] <Jucato> !away > _StefanS_
[11:54] <Jucato> :P
[11:59] <mhb> Jucato: yes, a system-wide "Default Applications" module for kcmshell sounds sensible to me
[12:00] <Jucato> mhb: kalternatives is actually kcontrol module. unfortunately, we don't have a package for it
[12:00] <mhb> hmm
[12:00] <Jucato> it's in kdeutils (upstream) iirc
[12:01] <Jucato> ah na, kdeonbeta
[12:01] <mhb> Jucato: what's that?
[12:04] <mhb> Jucato: sorry, just read that
[12:40] <fdoving> can anyone suggest a simple CMS for publishing text and pictures basically?
[12:49] <_StefanS_> fdoving: have you checked the opensourcecms.org ?
[12:49] <_StefanS_> fdoving: lets you preview them easily
[12:50] <fdoving> _StefanS_: no, i haven't thanks. i'm testing joomla currently.
[12:50] <_StefanS_> err.. well that wasn't the correct
[12:50] <_StefanS_> 2secs
[12:50] <Jucato> it wasn't the correct 2 seconds? O.o
[12:50] <_StefanS_> http://opensourcecms.com/
[12:51] <_StefanS_> Jucato: bah :P
[12:51] <fdoving> thanks.
[12:51] <_StefanS_> np
[12:51] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I dont know if that kinda gave you 'information overload', but there you have it :D
[12:52] <fdoving> i checked that joomla has a good rating, then closed the site :)
[12:52] <Jucato> hm?
[12:52] <fdoving> closed the browser window.. i mean.
[12:53] <Jucato> heh :)
[01:17] <marseillai> hi
[01:48] <_StefanS_> hi
[01:50] <_StefanS_> marseillai: what?
[01:51] <marseillai> _StefanS_: are you motu ?
[01:51] <_StefanS_> marseillai: no sorry
[01:51] <marseillai> because i've package KIMA and he needs one more yes to be accept
[01:51] <_StefanS_> go to #ubuntu-motu
[01:51] <_StefanS_> I think thats whats its called
[01:52] <marseillai> _StefanS_: no thanks
[01:52] <ScottK> That's correct.
[01:52] <marseillai> when i go to ubuntu-motu no one takes care of what i say ....
[01:52] <ScottK> marseillai: A lot of people are away this week, so have patience.
[01:52] <marseillai> i've been allways more lucky here or on ubuntu-fr-classroom
[01:53] <ScottK> Well the people who can approve your package mostly hang out on #ubuntu-motu.  Try it or not, your choice.
[02:05] <seele> will anyone be at LinuxTag?
[02:06] <Riddell> not I, but kwwii is talking
[02:06] <Riddell> I think sebas is going
[02:06] <seele> ok
[02:06] <seele> id like to meet with anyone who is interested to go over the usability study
[02:06] <Riddell> and there's a kubuntu stall with mirjam
[02:07] <seele> all the testing is done, but people are still working on reports so i dont have complete results yet
[02:29] <doc__> hi there
[02:42] <Tm_T> hi Hobbsee
[02:44] <Hobbsee> hi Tm_T, how's it going?
[02:44] <Tm_T> mostly fine thanks :)
[02:45] <Tm_T> middle of moving to new home, so back hurts but that's minor
[02:49] <kwwii> Riddell: did you want to send me the svg per email or such?
[02:49] <Riddell> hi
[02:49] <Riddell> http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/g13204.png
[02:49] <Riddell> http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Desenho.svg
[02:50] <Riddell> kwwii: the g needs fixing, so does the thistle
[02:50] <Riddell> kwwii: where are you anyway?
[02:50] <kwwii> Riddell: I am in the Bling meeting
[02:50] <Riddell> right
[02:56] <marseillai> Riddell: i've done a debdiff for this bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134907 I would like to know what todo for a SRU? it's my first debdiff so may be i've make some mistake
[02:56] <ubotu> KDE bug 134907 in Cryptography Plugin "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] 
[02:56] <Hobbsee> marseillai: woot!
[02:57] <Hobbsee> marseillai: did they put that into 3.5.7?
[02:57] <marseillai> don't know
[02:57] <marseillai> Hobbsee: i don't think so it has been solve two days ago
[02:57] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StableReleaseUpdates  the slow and painful SRU process
[02:58] <Hobbsee> woot
[02:59] <Hobbsee> marseillai: nice.  i'm assuming they havent done those tarballs yet
[02:59] <marseillai> Hobbsee: yes but i think i'll have some bad time to make my first SRU ... :)
[02:59] <Hobbsee> marseillai: oh you will.  go ahead :)
[03:00] <marseillai> Hobbsee: if i send you my debdiff could you tell me if it is clean ??? i would not like loose my time with something dirty
[03:00] <Hobbsee> go for it.  i think this partition is even feisty
[03:04] <Hobbsee> manchicken: what are you discussing over there?
[03:04] <manchicken> KDE4 not building.  That makes me a sad panda.
[03:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:05] <manchicken> You'd know if you'd sit with us ;)
[03:05] <Hobbsee> well, now lots of gnome people have sat next to me, so i might do that...
[03:05] <manchicken> Yeah.
[03:05] <manchicken> Dirty dirty gnomes.
[03:06] <marseillai> Hobbsee: it seems this bug is yours : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/63221 :p
[03:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 63221 in kdenetwork "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[03:06] <Hobbsee> marseillai: yes, but i'm not doing the damned sru
[03:07] <marseillai> lol
[03:07] <Hobbsee> i'm allergic to them.
[03:07] <marseillai> Hobbsee: could you just take a look to my debdiff ???
[03:08] <Hobbsee> marseillai: if you tell me where it is, sure
[03:08] <nixternal> good mornin'
[03:09] <Hobbsee> hi nixternal
[03:10] <marseillai> Hobbsee: ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/kopetecryptography.dif
[03:10] <nixternal> manchicken: what isn't building for KDE4? having issues with libsctreamanalyzer?
[03:10] <manchicken> I'm trying to compile kdelibs from svn, and it's dying around line 122 of kwallet.cpp
[03:14] <nixternal> did you compile strigi and all that first?
[03:15] <nixternal> qt-copy, soprano, strigi, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase and so on
[03:16] <Hobbsee> marseillai: why's it so big?
[03:16] <Hobbsee> oh, i see
[03:16] <Hobbsee> marseillai: check the diff a bit more closely.  if you're going to edit in kate, you need to make sure you remove the backup file before diffing them.
[03:19] <marseillai> arf
[03:19] <marseillai> oki
[03:19] <kwwii> Riddell: http://sinecera.de/akademy_long_g.svg
[03:19] <kwwii> Riddell: let me know if that is more of what wanted
[03:28] <marseillai> Hobbsee: ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/kopetecryptography.dif
[03:29] <marseillai> it should be good
[03:29] <marseillai> bddebian: thanks for your revu for kima! :)
[03:29] <Hobbsee> marseillai: it's buggered.  you need to start with sourcedir/kopete/....etc
[03:29] <Hobbsee> not /tmp/foobar/sourcedir/kopete...
[03:29] <Hobbsee> else it wont patch
[03:29] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:29] <bddebian> marseillai: Hi, NP
[03:30] <Hobbsee> marseillai: apart from that, looks fine
[03:32] <marseillai> but i don't know why my patch start with this : "/tmp/ ...."
[03:33] <Hobbsee> because you piped the output, iirc.
[03:36] <manchicken> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 <-- Hobbsee
[03:39] <marseillai> Hobbsee: i don't undesrtand. When i run my debdiff i've allways some /tmp/foo/ in my diff files ....
[03:40] <Hobbsee> because you piped the output, iirc.
[03:41] <marseillai> oki
[03:41] <Hobbsee> thought i answered earlier
[03:41] <Riddell> kwwii: g is now good, thankks
[03:41] <Riddell> kwwii: thistle could still do with changes
[03:42] <manchicken> http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/pardusrepo/sources/ <-- Hobbsee, find dbus there as freedesktop.org is dead.
[03:42] <marseillai> it does that even without the pipe ....
[03:44] <manchicken> Hobbsee: [Tue May 8 2007]  [11:50:01]  <Riddell> manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/3.90.1/debs/
[03:46] <manchicken> Hobbsee (and imbrandon as well): KDE4 Porting guide is here -- http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KDE4_Porting_Guide
[03:46] <marseillai> Hobbsee: i didn't have patchutils installed! :)
[04:10] <sebas> seele: Are you at Linuxtag as well?
[04:12] <Riddell> marseillai: add debdiff to bug report, subscribe ubuntu-sru, wait for review, upload to -proposed when reviewed
[04:12] <Riddell> get testers, wait a week, ask to move to -updates
[04:12] <marseillai> oki
[04:12] <marseillai> debdiff add
[04:13] <Hobbsee> marseillai: doesnt help :P  and the target needs to be feisty-updates, iirc
[04:14] <seele> sebas: yes, Ellen is trying to get me to submit a workshop
[04:14] <seele> sebas: there is a Printing meeting going on as well
[04:14] <Hobbsee> hiya seele
[04:14] <Riddell> Hobbsee: got an opinion on kde media remove notification?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> Riddell: hmmm.  apart from it "just working"?
[04:15] <Riddell> Hobbsee: come here (room C I think) and we'll discuss
[04:15] <Hobbsee> appaers to be D, on the schedule?
[04:15] <Riddell> ok, D then
[04:17] <seele> hihi Hobbsee
[04:19] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:20] <n8k99> hi everybody
[04:20] <Hobbsee> hiya
[04:29] <Hobbsee> !ping
[04:29] <ubotu> pong
[04:30] <imbrandon> !ping
[04:30] <ubotu> pong
[04:30] <imbrandon> :(
[04:37] <nixternal> !pong
[04:37] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[04:37] <nixternal> bye
[04:37] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:57] <doc__> hi
[04:58] <n8k99> are there plans to make  kubuntu mobile embedded
[04:58] <Tm_T> done already
[04:58] <Riddell> Tm_T: it is?
[04:58] <Tm_T> just kidding
[04:58] <n8k99> really?
[04:59] <Tm_T> but there's Qtopia-based stuff around :)
[04:59] <Tm_T> unfortunately my iPaq doesn't run those yet
[04:59] <Riddell> it would be nice to have qtopia packaged
[05:00] <abattoir> hi Tm_T , Riddell :)
[05:00] <Jucato> hi abattoir!!!!
[05:00] <Riddell> hi abattoir
[05:01] <abattoir> hi Jucato :P
[05:01] <Tm_T> abattoir: yo!
[05:01] <Riddell> abattoir: anything you think we should be discussing at UDS for gutsy?
[05:01] <abattoir> Riddell: w.r.t oem-config? i think cjwatson wanted to merge it with ubiquity
[05:02] <abattoir> Riddell: i'd love to get marble in if that's possible, and some more cosmetic changes. apart from that, i guess things will change only if the backend changes
[05:02] <abattoir> Riddell: just curious... you know if dell would be using the gtk oem-installer?
[05:03] <abattoir> Riddell: apart from that, if *noone* is working on porting klavier/onboard to qt4, i'd love to give it a shot
[05:03] <Riddell> abattoir: ubiquity wil;l have a new maintainer at the end of the month
[05:04] <abattoir> Riddell: oh? who? if i may ask?
[05:04] <Riddell> abattoir: marble, we would need to find a way to cut down on the disk space it uses
[05:04] <Riddell> tackat did say that should be possible
[05:04] <Riddell> abattoir: no idea about dell, I should ask
[05:04] <abattoir> Riddell: are you leaving the project or something???
[05:04] <Jucato> Riddell: oh btw, regarding the spec for Dolphin, unless the gdebi port will be finished for Gusty, I guess we also have to make sure that the Kubuntu Package Menu servicemenu works properly in Dolphin
[05:04] <Riddell> abattoir: no!
[05:05] <abattoir> thank god!
[05:05] <Riddell> abattoir: I mean ubiquity will get its own dedicated maintainer employed by canonical
[05:05] <Jucato> whew
[05:05] <Riddell> Jucato: service menus do work, it's only ark which is a kpart that doesn't
[05:05] <Riddell> abattoir: we had this for accessiblity keyboard https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibilityKeyboard
[05:05] <Jucato> Riddell: ah that's cool
[05:06] <Riddell> kvkbd seems better than klavier and good enough to use
[05:06] <Riddell> abattoir: but a port of onboard would be better really
[05:06] <Riddell> abattoir: so please go ahead with that :)
[05:06] <abattoir> Riddell: noone's working on that for now? or plans to work on that?
[05:07] <Jucato> (and eat it, too)
[05:07] <abattoir> :)
[05:07] <Tm_T> don't bite me!
[05:07] <abattoir> Jucato: i thought you can't have it and eat it :)
[05:08] <Jucato> in your case, you can and eat it :)
[05:08] <abattoir> but Tm_T has take it :(
[05:08] <Riddell> abattoir: no but check with tonio
[05:08] <Jucato> Tm_T would make a pretty "interesting" cake :P
[05:08] <abattoir> Riddell: ok, i will thanks
[05:08] <Tm_T> Jucato: you wish!
[05:08] <abattoir> Riddell: i have exams till the end of the month, but i think i'd be able to finish it by gutsy freeze
[05:09] <Jucato> Tm_T: the "interesting" there actually means "weird", "yucky", etc.
[05:09] <Jucato> :P
[05:09] <Riddell> abattoir: would you be able to write a spec in the next couple of days
[05:09] <Riddell> ?
[05:09] <abattoir> Riddell: ok, how detailed should it be?
[05:10] <Riddell> abattoir: looking at the onboard code and seeing which parts should be kept common and which ported to qt (and saying which qt widgets to use)
[05:10] <Riddell> quite general, no exact plans
[05:10] <Riddell> start a wiki page KubuntuOnboard and use the SpecTemplate spec
[05:11] <Riddell> then I can get it reviewed by heno for saneness
[05:11] <Hobbsee> abattoir: but people are tasty!  particularly roasted.
[05:11] <abattoir> Riddell: i have looked at it's code briefly before. but exams start on Friday, i'll try my best to get a spec, but i'm really sorry, i can't promise anything, still have a lot of revision left :P
[05:11] <Riddell> abattoir: sure, fair enough
[05:11] <abattoir> Hobbsee: hi btw :)
[05:16] <Hobbsee> hiya
[05:17] <marseillai> Riddell: are you interest by my patch for kde 3.5.7 ?
[05:21] <Riddell> marseillai: yes, but not this week (at conference)
[05:21] <marseillai> oki
[05:21] <marseillai> no problem
[05:21] <Riddell> marseillai: it's for kdepim?
[05:21] <marseillai> i'll send it to you when your are back
[05:22] <marseillai> Riddell: no for kdenetwork it solve a problem with kopete and decrytpion of GPG message
[05:22] <Riddell> marseillai: tried telling #kopete?
[05:23] <marseillai> Riddell: it's goff who did the patch but it was two days ago so too late for kde 3.5.7
[05:24] <Riddell> ah, ok
[05:24] <Riddell> sure, we'll get it in
[05:24] <Riddell> but you need to poke me in a couple of weeks
[05:24] <Riddell> I'm on holiday next week actually
[05:24] <marseillai> so i'll send you the patch
[05:24] <marseillai> no problem
[05:24] <marseillai> i make a note in korganizer to keep it in mind
[05:25] <Riddell> :)
[05:52] <Riddell> reviewers needed: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuRemoveMedia
[05:52] <Riddell> fdoving ^^
[05:52] <Riddell> it's short :)
[05:53] <Hobbsee> found an error
[05:54] <Riddell> oh?
[05:54] <Riddell> please fix
[05:54] <Hobbsee> just finding login details now
[05:55] <Hobbsee> done :)
[06:03] <abattoir> Riddell: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-onboard already seems to exist, should i just create the wiki page?
[06:06] <Riddell> abattoir: sure
[06:06] <Riddell> if it doesn't already exist :)
[06:13] <Riddell> manchicken: comments https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-adept-version-locking
[06:13] <manchicken> w00t.
[06:16] <fdoving> Riddell: I want to re-do the remove-media part. I want to use a shell-script-wrapper instead of the patch. it is more reliable because it'll appear instantly.
[06:17] <abattoir> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuOnboard sorry if it's very brief
[06:19] <Riddell> fdoving: fancy putting that in the spec?
[06:19] <fdoving> Riddell: will do, i have the scripts around too, somewhere.
[06:23] <Riddell> abattoir: thanks, I'll add a bit more to it and send it for review
[06:23] <abattoir> Riddell: great, thank you :)
[06:27] <fdoving> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuRemoveMedia and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946/comments/51 - i'll improve the dialogtext etc. put my name on this.
[06:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss]  umount progress dialog missing" [High,Fix released] 
[06:34] <fdoving> how are translations handled in shellscripts?
[06:34] <fdoving> are/should tr- be.
[06:35] <Riddell> mm, they're not
[06:35] <fdoving> must be a way to make it.
[06:37] <Riddell> try googling for bash and gettext but I suspect nothing may turn up
[06:37] <mhb> it is possible, but not widely known and used
[06:37] <mhb> or that's what the page I googled told me
[06:37] <fdoving> http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#SEC13
[06:37] <fdoving> looks doable.
[06:37] <fdoving> i'll figure it out.
[06:38] <toma> fdoving: make a small kde app which only outputs that text ;-)
[06:38] <fdoving> toma: sure, instead of "Text" inside the script :)
[06:39] <fdoving> toma: actually.. your proposal might not be so bad after all.. i could make the nice progressbar too... instead of kdialog.
[06:39] <marseillai> Riddell: i drop my patch to trash because kde 3.5.7 has not been yet tag so there is no need for my patch! :( sorry for distrubing
[06:40] <Riddell> marseillai: ok, that makes things easier
[06:40] <marseillai> yes
[06:41] <marseillai> but i'm a little bit sad my work was useless
[06:41] <fdoving> i can make the wrapper a kde program instead of bash.
[06:41] <marseillai> my first work in main
[06:54] <nixternal> whew it is a hot one here in Chicago today
[07:01] <nixternal> manchicken: did you get kde4 to compile?
[07:01] <nixternal> I know with the packages for Riddell, all of them bomb out with libstreamanalyzer.so
[07:01] <nixternal> so I am wondering about the strigi and libstrigi builds
[07:06] <manchicken> nixternal: It's on its way still.
[07:06] <manchicken> I had to recompile qt-copy
[07:10] <nixternal> ya, if you donn't get qt-copy correct nothing else is going to work out for you
[08:29] <sebas> seele: Cool. I'll be there too.
[08:46] <\sh> sebas, nice article btw on planet
[11:08] <mhb> nice and quiet now that everyone is in one timezone :o)
[11:09] <Tm_T> bah