[01:54] <poolie> hi
[01:54] <poolie> i'm trying to add a branch to a bug and i get
[01:54] <poolie> raise KeyError("'%s' already present in wsgi environment." % key)
[01:54] <poolie> jml ^^
[01:59] <jml> poolie: I'll take a look.
[02:01] <jml> poolie: do you get to see the value of 'key', or a more full error message?
[02:01] <jml> because that doesn't look like something particularly related to linking a bug and a branch.
[02:07] <poolie> no but it's OOPS-492B4117
[02:07] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/492B4117
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #113218 in launchpad-bazaar "add branch to a bug should allow direct registration" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113218
[04:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[04:01] <beuno> moooooooooornin mpt
[04:03] <beuno> hm, mpt, you might know, any list of the ubuntu members going to deconf?
[04:03] <beuno> *debconf
[04:04] <beuno> I just got my plane ticket confirmed, so it would be nice to meet ubunteros over there (although it might not be the safest place to) :p
[04:05] <mpt> beuno, no sorry, I'm not an Ubuntu member, and I don't know when/where debconf is
[04:06] <beuno> oh, sorry, I just asumed...  thanks :D
[04:51] <atoponce> who's an admin on launchpad that can help me?
[04:54] <thumper> atoponce: I'm not but perhaps I can help
[04:55] <atoponce> thumper: ok. cool.
[04:55] <atoponce> i'm looking to have 2 people get administrative access to a team project page
[04:55] <atoponce> basically, the team has been dead for a while, and they are reviving it
[04:56] <thumper> atoponce: ok, which team?
[04:56] <atoponce> https://launchpad.net/~california.team
[04:56] <atoponce> the two that need that access is Carl Agbayani and Flannel (not sure of his full name)
[04:57] <thumper> atoponce: what's happened to the current team owner?
[04:57] <atoponce> awol
[04:57] <atoponce> never responds to emails, hasn't been online for ages, etc
[04:58] <atoponce> Neal Bussett is Flannel
[05:00] <atoponce> it looks like mark nielson has made recent approvals to the team on the page
[05:00] <atoponce> maybe i should try his email again?
[05:01] <thumper> atoponce: perhaps you could ask him to make some others admins to help?
[05:01] <thumper> alternatively if this doesn't help, you could try registering a question against launchpad
[05:02] <thumper> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[05:02] <atoponce> ok. yeah. i just sent another email. we'll see what happens
[05:02] <thumper> these questions are addressed by admins
[05:02] <atoponce> ok. cool
[05:02] <atoponce> thx for your help
[05:02] <thumper> np
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #113262 in malone "Inconsistency in package naming between e-mail commands and e-mail notifications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113262
[09:02] <lifeless> jamesh: ping
[09:02] <jamesh> lifeless: pong
[09:02] <lifeless> I dont think you replied to my 'will you allocate reviews' mail?
[09:02] <lifeless> so this is me asking you if you are doing said thing.
[09:02] <jamesh> sorry.  I'll do the allocations.
[09:03] <lifeless> thank you, I appreciate that hugely.
[09:04] <lifeless> btw, is your avahi stuff got a setup.py?
[09:04] <lifeless> be good to get it packaged, and that makes it easier
[09:04] <jamesh> lifeless: I suppose it is best not to give branches to new reviewers that were done by their mentors, right?
[09:05] <lifeless> jamesh: yes, please avoid that :)
[09:06] <jamesh> lifeless: I haven't done much on my avahi plugin since the sprint.
[09:06] <jamesh> I've been meaning to refactor it to run from the "smart server start/stop" hooks
[09:06] <lifeless> sounds cool
[09:27] <seb128> bjornT: hi
[09:27] <seb128> bjornT: do you know how https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/112458 happened?
[09:27] <seb128> upstream bug opened on launchpad
[09:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112458 in rhythmbox "debdiff for merge from debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[09:31] <jamesh> seb128: I wonder if they changed the target?
[09:31] <seb128> jamesh: after filling the bug? I doubt of it
[09:32] <seb128> let me ask him
[09:34] <seb128> jamesh: he doesn't remember what he did exactly
[09:34] <seb128> do you have some sort of log of what happened to the bug?
[09:35] <jamesh> seb128: there is the activity log, but it is woefully inadequate
[09:35] <seb128> right, I was wondering if you had extra informations on the server
[09:36] <jamesh> found it
[09:36] <seb128> cool
[09:36] <jamesh> I can file bugs against any project at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug
[09:37] <jamesh> even ones that don't use Launchpad
[09:37] <seb128> that's likely it then
[09:37] <jamesh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/113267 <- that
[09:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113267 in rhythmbox "test bug" [Undecided,Rejected]  
[09:38] <jamesh> 's the test bug I filed
[09:39] <seb128> jamesh: he confirms, he used launchpad.net, clicked on bugs and on file a bug then
[09:41] <seb128> jamesh: bug #109310 is likely due to it
[09:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109310 in malone "upstream task opened on a product not using malone as bug tracker" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109310
[09:43] <jamesh> seb128: thanks.  Didn't see that when filing a bug about this, so I've marked it as a duplicate
[09:44] <seb128> no problem
[09:44] <jamesh> (since the new bug has info on how the problem occurred).
[09:44] <zyga> kiko: hello, I was going to talk to you yesterday but had little time
[09:45] <zyga> kiko: do you remember our short discussion from 8 days ago?
[09:45] <carlos> morning
[09:45] <kiko> zyga, I remember we talked, but I can't remember what it was about!
[09:45] <kiko> hey carlos 
[09:45] <zyga> about external contributors helping with launchpad on small tasks
[09:45] <carlos> kiko: hey!
[09:46] <zyga> I am especially interested in helping out with non firefox compatibility
[09:46] <kiko> zyga, ah, I remember.
[09:46] <zyga> (in non-IE browsers)
[09:46] <kiko> zyga, so you need to talk to SteveA and Rinchen about this.
[09:46] <zyga> okay 
[09:46] <kiko> we have had an external contributor once
[09:47] <kiko> it didn't work out too well, which is something to consider
[09:47] <zyga> I see
[09:47] <zyga> well you did mention the complexity of launchpad
[09:47] <zyga> I wonder how could I work on small bits of code exactly 
[09:48] <zyga> I understand that there is a devepment version available for developers
[09:48] <zyga> and that code is submitted via PQM
[09:48] <kiko> right
[09:48] <kiko> it's non-trivial to work on small bits of code -- you would need the whole tree, in particular to be able to write tests and run the thing
[09:49] <zyga> I see
[09:49] <zyga> how can I sign the NDA? I hope I would not have to physically go to UK to do this
[09:49] <kiko> talk to SteveA 
[09:49] <zyga> okay
[09:50] <zyga> SteveA: ^ could you please comment on the above?
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #113268 in malone "General "report a new bug" form lets users file bugs against projects not using Launchpad" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113268
[10:02] <zyga> re
[10:02] <zyga> SteveA: sorry, lost wifi
[10:25] <SteveA> zyga: hi
[10:25] <SteveA> zyga: you said "^ could you please comment on the above?"
[10:26] <SteveA> my scroll-back goes on for miles.  please be more specific about what you want me to comment on.
[10:27] <Hobbsee> SteveA: staring from .44 - zyga i'd say
[10:40] <SteveA> Hobbsee: thanks.
[10:40] <Hobbsee> SteveA: no problem :)
[10:41] <SteveA> although I don't see why I should read some other conversation to save zyga the effort of asking me a question directly. :-)
[10:42] <SteveA> Hobbsee: how is launchpad working for you at the moment?
[10:42] <Hobbsee> SteveA: about that, can we get https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors/ not to list debian & upstream bugs - just ubuntu?
[10:42] <Hobbsee> or at least have an option to say "show me only ubuntu bugs"?
[10:43] <Hobbsee> SteveA: seems OK - it's nice not being in au.
[10:43] <Hobbsee> (performance wise)
[10:43] <SteveA> I didn't realize you were not in .au.  :-)
[10:43] <IAW3632> Hi kiko
[10:43] <kiko> hi there
[10:43] <Hobbsee> SteveA: also, i'd like to see at a glance whether the newest package version built or not, looking at a bug.
[10:44] <kiko> hey Hobbsee 
[10:44] <Hobbsee> hiya kiko.  i've finally realised who you are :)
[10:44] <Hobbsee> SteveA: i'm at UDS.
[10:44] <IAW3632> Kiko, can you please have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/4676 ?
[10:44] <kiko> Hobbsee, are you here?
[10:44] <kiko> aha
[10:44] <SteveA> awsome
[10:44] <SteveA> Hobbsee: see if you can talk with bjorn, also at UDS about those things
[10:45] <kiko> Hobbsee, were you on the teenage table last night?
[10:45] <Hobbsee> kiko: um...which part of last night?
[10:45] <Hobbsee> SteveA: right.  dont know who he is.
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #35974 in soyuz "The contents of the dependencies field is wrong" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/35974
[10:45] <kiko> Hobbsee, late last night. and I can introduce you to bjorn
[10:46] <Hobbsee> kiko: oh yeah, i was for a while
[10:46] <Hobbsee> kiko: that'd be good.  especially if you could find me
[10:46] <kiko> I think I know who you are now
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #31611 in soyuz "No command-line tools to manipulate build database" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/31611
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #113282 in soyuz "Source Build dependencies should be linked to BinaryPackages no SourcePackages" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113282
[10:52] <IAW3632> kiko, we need something done for #4676 or we won't be able to activate rosetta/malone (I am ago by the way, we chatted a few weeks ago), can you please take care of it?
[10:53] <kiko> IAW3632, hang on.
[10:54] <kiko> IAW3632, is there a team we could use as an owner?
[10:54] <IAW3632> lupin-team
[10:54] <kiko> okidok
[10:55] <kiko> IAW3632, done
[10:55] <IAW3632> thanks a lot
[10:56] <Hobbsee> SteveA: done
[11:03] <zyga> SteveA: I was asking about external contributors and NDAs
[11:04] <zyga> about how to actually sign one
[11:36] <SteveA> zyga: hi.  we can talk about it.  I'm really busy until the end of hte week, though.
[11:46] <zyga> SteveA: okay, I will try to talk to you after the conference, maybe next week. I'd like to ask one quick question though: how do I physically sign the NDA?
[11:48] <SteveA> zyga: we're not at that stage yet.  we need to talk about this.
[11:48] <zyga> okay
[12:30] <Susana> hi, is "browse files" working for projects hosted in launchpad?
[12:30] <Susana> i get a 500 internal error
[12:31] <Susana> some projects i can see individual files if i go directly at them, but i can't browse the tree
[12:38] <kiko> Susana, interesting. can you show me a link?
[12:38] <kiko> "browse files"?
[12:39] <Susana> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~mapdevs/support.points.map/running/annotate/mark%40looksaus-20070504133859-61985f5235d1305c?start_revid=mark%40looksaus-20070504134747-8624b917c739e1ec&file_id=header.php-20060719061251-2ae8283699b923d1
[12:40] <Susana> that works on individual files but not browse
[12:40] <Susana> this always one gives an error http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/changes
[12:52] <kiko> ah
[12:52] <kiko> a codebrowse crash!
[01:03] <Susana> yeah, sorry about not beeing very specific
[01:03] <kiko-fud> Susana, I need to leave for lunch, but can you file a bug on that? launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+filebug?
[01:04] <Susana> ok
[01:04] <Susana> thanks
[01:13] <tjs> hey
[01:14] <tjs> I've just created a project on launchpad, was about to push my first branch, but it says in the help to allow others to commit I need to create a team?
[01:14] <tjs> I can't seem to find anywhere I can create a 'team'
[01:15] <oojah_> Try: https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam
[01:15] <tjs> cheers
[01:16] <oojah_> That's from the people page from the home menu.
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #113315 in launchpad-bazaar "http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~mapdevs/support.points.map/running/  gives 500 internal error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113315
[01:41] <tjs> so in making an initial checkin of my project source, I should create a directory called 'trunk' locally, move my source into it, then do the appropriate 'push' ? or do I init it before hand? 
[01:54] <tjs> jml: hey
[01:54] <jml> tjs: hi
[01:54] <tjs> jml: fancy meeting you here ;)
[01:59] <jamesh> tjs: in general, you root your source tree at the base of the bazaar branch
[01:59] <tjs> ok, ty :)
[02:00] <jamesh> tjs: Subversion only supports branching and merging within the same tree, which is why they suggest that layout
[02:01] <jamesh> with Bazaar, you want all your related branches to share the same directory layout
[02:01] <tjs> ok
[02:01] <tjs> will do that, I guess I'll work this out as I go a bit as well :)
[02:02] <Adri2000> I'm trying to add a contact email address to a team, but I don't receive any confirmation message... :/
[02:02] <jamesh> Adri2000: is the contact email a mailing list?
[02:02] <Adri2000> jamesh: yes
[02:03] <jamesh> Adri2000: does that mailing list block or moderate non-subscriber posts?
[02:03] <Sp4rKy> hi
[02:04] <Sp4rKy> jamesh: yyes, it does
[02:04] <Adri2000> Sp4rKy is the admin of the server which hosts the mailing-list :)
[02:04] <jamesh> Sp4rKy: okay.  Check the list of held messages
[02:04] <Sp4rKy> jamesh: already done
[02:04] <jamesh> and it wasn't there?
[02:04] <Sp4rKy> nop
[02:05] <Sp4rKy> the strange thing it's there is not in my log
[02:05] <Sp4rKy> and it should be , even if it's greylisting
[02:05] <Sp4rKy> greylisted*
[02:06] <jamesh> Sp4rKy: the from address should be noreply@launchpad.net and the envelope sender should be bounces@canonical.com
[02:07] <jamesh> if that helps you in determining the problem
[02:07] <Sp4rKy> maybe an error during my switch, i'll delete and then recreate the list
[02:07] <Sp4rKy> jamesh: indeed, nothing
[02:36] <Sp4rKy> please, does anyone can check log on the lp mail server ?
[02:37] <Sp4rKy> i don't understand why i don't receive any mail from lp whereas my mail server seems to works fine 
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #113334 in launchpad "sometimes mail is not sent to subscibers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113334
[03:38] <Sp4rKy> hehe, seem i'm not alone with this issue
[03:51] <kiko-fud> Sp4rKy, really?
[03:53] <Sp4rKy> kiko-fud: yep
[03:53] <Sp4rKy> the mail contact from dad team never be sent to my mail server
[03:56] <kiko-fud> that's odd
[03:59] <Sp4rKy> yep
[03:59] <Sp4rKy> can you check mail log ?
[03:59] <Sp4rKy> if yes, you may grep dad.lists.dunnewind.net in the logs
[04:00] <Sp4rKy> because the mail never arrived on my mail server
[04:00] <Sp4rKy> whereas the server works perfectly 
[04:15] <Sp4rKy> kiko: any information ?
[04:16] <kiko> I can't check the mail log, but if you ask on #canonical-sysadmin, you can
[04:16] <kiko> get them to help you out with more information
[04:17] <Sp4rKy> ok
[04:19] <Sp4rKy> done
[04:39] <aa_> hi, any chance of adding our own trac to the Launchpad-usage...bug-tracker...external bug tracker thing?
[04:54] <Adri2000> does the "author" of a bzr branch receive mail notifications?
[04:54] <Adri2000> or do I need to subscribe?
[04:55] <radix> you probably need to subscribe
[04:55] <Adri2000> ok
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #98437 in zope3 "TestBrowser Referer: header set to 'localhost'" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98437
[07:13] <popey> beta launchpad enabled again?
[07:16] <matsubara> popey: it wasn't disabled, just the redirect
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #113392 in rosetta "Notification for new translations by non-member" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113392
[07:24] <popey> it's just that answers.lp.net has now been spitting out mails with the beta url
[07:24] <popey> nvm
[07:25] <matsubara> popey: unfortunately people using beta to answer question will still trigger that bug.
[08:26] <jdong> are there any plans for a way to delete/hide comments from Malone?
[08:26] <jdong> it's really bothersome when random user conversation clutters up bug tickets
[08:42] <carlos> jdong: please, file a ticket reporting that problem and admins will handle it
[08:47] <blueyed> I'd like to see a feature "halt screensaver if DPMS reports that monitor is off". Is this something for Bugs or Blueprints?
[08:49] <carlos> blueyed: it depends, will you write the spec or it's just a request from you ?
[08:49] <carlos> if it's just a feature you would like to see, file a bug
[08:50] <carlos> the developer that accepts / implements it will decide whether it needs a blueprint
[08:50] <blueyed> Ah, I see. Thanks, carlos. I'll file a bug then.
[08:52] <ddaa> compiz, renewing the joy (vice?) of fiddling endlessly with one's window manager settins
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #113418 in launchpad "opera 9.20 launchpad lay-out problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113418
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #47280 in rosetta "Please add en_NZ "English (New Zealand)" to preferred languages list" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47280
[11:17] <etnoy> how long does it take to do a SVN import? I have been waiting for almost 36h, and it still says testing...
[11:22] <etnoy> nobody? :)
[11:24] <thumper> etnoy: it depends on the size of the svn repository
[11:25] <thumper> etnoy: it is not unheard of for an import to take many days
[11:39] <etnoy> thumper: okay. my repo is quite small, but I'll be patient
[11:39] <etnoy> by the way, I don't really understand how the launchpad bzr system works...
[11:39] <etnoy> can I continue to develop in my svn and launchpad will import these settings?
[11:39] <etnoy> (a question for the faq...)
[11:40] <Fujitsu> Launchpad periodically looks for new revisions in the SVN repositories, and imports those.
[11:44] <thumper> etnoy: yes, if you have set up the branch to be imported, then you can continue to work in svn and it will bring in the changes
[11:44] <thumper> etnoy: which product is the import for?
[11:45] <mdke> actually this one has been "testing" for quite a few days too - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/feisty
[11:46] <mdke> probably it needs manual intervention
[11:46] <mdke> "The vcs-imports operator will review the source details and either mark the series "Do not sync", or perform a test import. If the test import is successful, a public import will be created."
[11:49] <etnoy> thumper: product? I am working on the project "evad"
[11:49] <etnoy> if that is what you mean
[11:49] <thumper> etnoy: yeah, sorry old terminology
[11:49] <etnoy> great to hear about periodic imports. I can use my sf.net svn and launchpad bugreports/bluepr :)
[11:50] <etnoy> yay!
[11:50] <etnoy> thanks
[11:50] <etnoy> now, Sweden is getting late. good night!
[11:50] <thumper> night
[12:00] <Nafallo> baah. Sweden isn't late :-P
[12:00] <Nafallo> 00:00