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[03:12] <Dink> So far so good... quick fix on the initial fsck error on boot due to hdd device is now hd vs sd ... only thing I get is sigsegv when I click on "systemsettings" kde
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[04:54] <jbj^> I dig the gibbon
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[06:16] <venky> can anyone help me to install ipw3945ABG  I am running gutsy
[06:16] <venky> ?
[06:18] <venky> anyone using intel pro wireless 3945 in gutsy?
[06:19] <crimsun> I can't even boot 2.6.22-1, so no.
[06:20] <venky> hmm the room is very dormant
[06:20] <venky> i am able to boot
[06:20] <venky> i just upgraded to 2.6.22.1 using wired connection
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[06:21] <venky> i was just hoping to find someone who is having intel pro wireless
[06:24] <RAOF> I think the problem is your expectation that Gutsy should *work* :)
[06:24] <venky> no it is not
[06:24] <RAOF> Failing that, you need to provide more information than "it doesn't work"
[06:24] <venky> hey i think u replied to my msg
[06:24] <RAOF> !doesntwork
[06:24] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:25] <venky> well i thought it is a well known problem...
[06:25] <RAOF> venky: Has linux-restricted-modules been built for that kernel yet?
[06:25] <venky> iam not a poweruser...
[06:25] <venky> i dont see it
[06:26] <venky> i see it for ipw2200
[06:26] <RAOF> venky: Then you *shouldn't* be running Gutsy.
[06:26] <RAOF> venky: Unless you're doing development, or want to queue up a bunch of bugs, gutsy is not for you.
[06:26] <venky> well iam enthusiastic though...i mean i dont care if my computer crashes
[06:26] <venky> well i do submit bugs whenever i can
[06:27] <venky> i mean whats wrong in learning?
[06:27] <RAOF> Oh, there's nothing wrong in learning.  Its just that having your system broken != learning.
[06:27] <venky> well yes i am not developing though
[06:27] <venky> yes i know
[06:28] <venky> iam learning by breaking my system keeps me motivated
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[06:28] <venky> i tried searching the web but couldnt find anything specific...that is why iam here
[06:28] <RAOF> Well, AFAIK you'll need linux-restricted-modules to get ipw3945 working.
[06:29] <venky> yes i have that
[06:29] <RAOF> At least, it shows up in the Restricted Drivers applet.
[06:29] <RAOF> venky: You have that *for the kernel you are running*?
[06:29] <venky> i mean for the 2.6.22.1 version
[06:29] <venky> yes
[06:29] <RAOF> Ok.
[06:30] <venky> how can you verify if it is running coz i did install it from adept
[06:31] <venky> i mean i know i should not be bothering developers asking simple questions but i dont expect anyone busy to answer anyway
[06:31] <crimsun> dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-$(uname- r)|grep ^ii
[06:32] <RAOF> Oh, does $(uname -r) work the same as `uname -r`.  Cool.
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[06:33] <crdlb> yes and it's nestable :)
[06:33] <RAOF> Awesome!
[06:33] <crdlb> so you can echo $(foo $(bar))
[06:37] <venky> is that command trying to install the restricted modules for my kernel?
[06:37] <RAOF> No, it's checking that you've got l-r-m installed for your kernel.
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[06:38] <venky> can you tell me what the pipes are doing?
[06:38] <venky> is it possible to split the commands?
[06:38] <crdlb> they're tubes
[06:39] <crdlb> oh those pipes :)
[06:39] <crdlb> yes you could use a file in between
[06:39] <venky> oh well tubes
[06:39] <crdlb> but that would be pointless
[06:39] <venky> i dont know much abt it
[06:39] <crdlb> I think: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:39] <crdlb> works too
[06:40] <RAOF> or "aptitude show linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | grep installed"
[06:41] <venky> well it shows 2.6.22.1-1.1
[06:42] <venky> l-r-m 2.6.22.1 generic
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[06:44] <venky> i read somewhere that ipw3945 will be incorporated into the kernel...i dont know what that means though does it mean it wont be in restricted modules?
[06:46] <crdlb> I think the ipw3945 driver is going open source
[06:47] <venky> my knetworkmanager doesnt run gives an error while loading shared library libnetworkstatus.so.0
[06:47] <venky> so would it still be in restricted modules?
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[06:51] <venky> yes it shows i have the linux restricted modules installed
[06:53] <RAOF> Hm.  Well, anyway, what is it that's not actually working?
[06:53] <RAOF> For example: what does "dmesg | grep ipw" say?
[06:55] <venky> lists ipw 3 times with intel  3945 network connectiion driver
[06:55] <venky> detected intel pro wireless 3945
[06:55] <venky> detected geography ABG
[06:57] <RAOF> Ok, so again, what *doesn't work*.
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[06:57] <venk1> sorry got disconnected
[06:57] <venk1> did u get my response ROAF
[06:57] <RAOF> Ok, so again, what *doesn't work*.  IE: you try to connect to a wireless AP and... ?
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[06:58] <venk1> i can make knetworkmanager to work
[06:58] <venk1> gives me an error in some shared library
[06:59] <venk1> libnetworkstatus.so.0
[06:59] <RAOF> venk1: So the problem isn't the ipw, it's network manager.
[07:00] <RAOF> In particular, network manager is *broken*, so you'll have to try something else.
[07:00] <venk1> is there anyother way to connect?
[07:00] <RAOF> System->Administration->Network.
[07:00] <RAOF> Oh, but you're on KDE.
[07:00] <RAOF> I don't know.
[07:01] <venk1> ya
[07:01] <venk1> when i open system settings it crahes..;)
[07:01] <venk1> i have submitted a bug
[07:01] <RAOF> Ok, it's at this point that I repeat: "Gutsy is *not meant to work at this point*"
[07:01] <venk1> ya i totally understand it
[07:02] <venk1> iam happy even if it doesnt work just trying
[07:03] <venk1> trust me i have been with ubuntu from early days of dapper i KNOW this iam a slow learneer..not going to quit just coz iam using an alpha software
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[07:03] <dmgedgoods> hello
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[07:05] <venk1> and well iam still trying to get my intel HD audio to work in feisty
[07:06] <RAOF> venk1: That should be in #ubuntu.
[07:06] <RAOF> :)
[07:06] <venk1> ya i know
[07:07] <venk1> well i have tried a lot but i think it is just the manufacturers
[07:07] <venk1> and ALSA hasnt yet released the drivers
[07:07] <venk1> maybe
[07:07] <venk1> so just waiting maybe gutsy will make it work..LMAO
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[07:09] <venk2> sorry disconnected
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[07:11] <venk3> back
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[07:14] <venk3> hello
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[07:19] <venk3> well thanks RAOF..talk to you someother time
[07:19] <venk3> thanks for all the help
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[09:14] <teethdood> is it Gutsy or Gusty?
[09:14] <teethdood> I know it's Gutsy but The Fridge called it Gusty
[09:16] <RAOF> Gutsy
[09:16] <RAOF> As in, "having a lot of guts"
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[10:42] <rollerskatejamms> Is anything gutsy related availible for download yet?
[10:42] <geser> afaik no
[10:43] <rollerskatejamms> So what's done in this room at the moment?
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[10:46] <noget> hey eveybody, can someone tell me why the video "flickers" in firefox, when streaming a file?
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[03:22] <ToHellWithGA> i'm getting a dependency issue with gtk and xfce4.  how would yall get around such a thing?
[03:23] <Hobbsee> with dpkg
[03:23] <ToHellWithGA> libgtk2.0-0 is conflicting with gtk2-engines-xfce and scim-gtk2-immodule
[03:23] <ToHellWithGA> morning Hobbsee
[03:24] <ToHellWithGA> is there a dpkg -doit option?
[03:24] <Toma-> --force-help
[03:24] <Toma-> :>
[03:24] <Hobbsee> ToHellWithGA: yes.  it's called go back to feisty.
[03:24] <ToHellWithGA> :p
[03:25] <ToHellWithGA> i figure if i last through the first mini.iso release i can get things running ever so slightly more smoothly then
[03:25] <ToHellWithGA> until then i just need to make this machine mostly work
[03:25] <crimsun> I don't recommend forcing unless you like blowing away scim's functionality
[03:26] <ToHellWithGA> but do i need scim?
[03:27] <ToHellWithGA> so long as that doesn't kill my compose key (which frankly i could live without) i don't mind losing the ability to input non-latin stuff
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[10:02] <Draconicus> brb
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[10:09] <Draconicus> Blargh... I'm gonna have to reboot. Something's gone screwy with the video.
[10:09] <Draconicus> See you soon.
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[11:06] <Skuller> gutsy gibbon, yay :D
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[11:37] <PocketIRC> Is it true that only maybe two or less of all the ideas for gutsy in the forum will be added?
[11:38] <PocketIRC> #ubuntu
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