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troy_snothlit: ping05:34
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troy_snothlit: LOL.  9 people.  How fucking sad.08:01
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nothlittroy_s: thats two more than responders on the mailing list at least08:31
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ziehello zie here, i want to remake Ubuntu With a more pro look, and rename it Probuntu08:47
ziemore such as a mac, and focuses on Graphic designs, video editing, artwork and more08:47
zieim a graphic artist starting this project08:48
zieif your interested let me know08:48
ziewhere creating the designs first08:48
nothlitehh08:52
nothlit!ubuntustudio | zie08:52
ubotuzie: ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio08:52
nothlitbah, that factoid is incorrect08:52
zieno see this is not a music setup08:52
zieit will funtion and basiclly be a mac08:53
ziethis can run with ubuntu08:53
nothlitanyways--theres already a profession artist's ubuntu derivative with video/art/music08:53
nothlitprofessional*08:53
ziehmm ok08:53
zieme and my crew have allready looked into it. What does Probuntu Will be an Upgrade from That. It will feature  Video/Art/Music but with a new design for Ubuntu, plus this format of Probuntu can run on the Ubuntu desktop08:54
zieso easy, that you can drag icons over to Probuntu. And images to ubuntu and edit them.08:55
MadpilotProbuntu? The Ubuntu project is getting stricter about *buntu naming, you know...08:56
zieyes thats a problem08:56
ziewe have other names, but none of them relate to the Buntu>08:56
zieWe have Prototype , Witch we where going to name it08:57
zieUbuntu Prodotype08:57
zieOr. We where going to name it. Linux PRO08:57
Madpilotwhy don't you just join the Ubuntu Studio group? sounds like you're doing much the same thing - should be a good fit08:57
ziewhats the Studio Group?08:58
zieis it on LAunchPad.com08:58
Madpilotnot sure - see the URLs nothlit posted08:58
ziek08:59
zieim currentlly working for Ubuntu Art, is Studio Group just a diffrent group?09:02
ziethere actually just fixing bugs at the moment09:02
MadpilotUbuntu Studio is an independant project, not directly connected to the main Ubuntu groups09:03
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nothlit_MMA_ and joejaxx are ustudio leads09:06
nothlityou should talk to them09:06
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nothlitzie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekfeisty/studio09:07
zieok09:10
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lapohi10:29
nysosymhi lapo :)10:30
lapociao nysosym10:30
nysosymciao lapo10:30
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zieCAN SOMEONE IN HERE TELL ME HOW TO CREATE MY OWN ROOM11:19
nothlit/j #chan11:19
nothlit!caps11:20
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.11:20
ziei didnt know it was on caps im sorry11:20
zienow does this room always exist11:20
nothlitno11:20
nothlityou register it in chanserv11:21
ziei create it everytime i get on xchat11:21
ziehow do i register it11:21
nothlit/quote ChanServ help11:22
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troy_slord04:47
troy_snothlit: Ping04:49
troy_snothlit ping me when you get a chance... we should probably start hammering out some base.05:12
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nothlittroy_s: http://people.fluxbuntu.org/~nothlit/communitytheme/gutsy/literature/collaborationprogress.txt just a few quick items05:13
troy_sVery simple good work nothlit05:14
troy_sIf you can manage to get a bit more input, we can build outwards from that.05:15
troy_sI'll pull up some palettes --05:15
troy_sdo you have a preference for a hue / saturation level?05:15
nothlitI think the way I've associated progress there implies saturation05:16
nothlitHue? I envision warm colours--but I have a huge bias and I haven't thought out the particulars yet05:16
troy_snothlit: WHen you say harmonizing colours -- theoretically if you use a palette they are all harmonized... do you mean more analagous?05:18
troy_s(as complimentary is very harmonious, but possibly not in the sense you mean)05:18
troy_sso ideas?05:19
troy_sor perhaps you think a more 'smattering' of palettes is worth looking at.05:20
nothlitI mean colors that aren't complements, but in pairs that 'sing'05:21
troy_syes -- so more analagous?05:22
troy_sanalogous rather.05:23
troy_sgrr spellunk05:23
troy_scan you spin the wheel and find a hue or two that is relative to what you are thinking?  from there i can pull out several sets based off of it from refs etc.05:23
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freakboysystemhello05:33
freakboysystemi am not new to ubuntu but really want to help make Ubuntu the OS choice for computers, by doing this i want to help put my drawing art skills to use and make Ubuntu with an inspiring user interface05:37
troy_sfreakboysystem: We want you05:43
troy_sfreakboysystem: Ubuntu's team might not, but we do.05:43
freakboysystemyes hello sorry i went down stairs05:52
freakboysystemthankyou05:52
troy_sfreakboysystem: Do you have a portfolio or samples online?05:57
freakboysystemno sorry06:16
freakboysystemi can get a blog and put some samples on06:16
nothlittroy_s: https://people.fluxbuntu.org/~nothlit/communitytheme/gutsy/colours/progress+collaboration.png --do you get where i'm going?06:21
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freakboysystemyes!06:24
freakboysystemI want to focus on icon and background design06:25
nothlittroy_s: those are a bit bold and drift a little too much toward the yellows--but i think you can see what i mean06:30
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troy_snothlit: Sorry... i was working on something06:37
troy_sok i was tremming06:37
troy_slol06:37
troy_sfreakboysystem: Put some stuffs up06:37
troy_snothlit: looking now06:37
troy_snothlit: Ok... I'll see what carbaga or someone has for a decent palette base06:38
troy_swhat one do you prefer if i can only say, get one redish one yellowish or whatever06:38
troy_scan you give me a priority sequence?06:38
nothlitI'd want a red, and a maroon of some sort--then orange,yellow,pale/yellow greens06:40
nothlityou could throw a subtle magenta in if you want06:40
troy_snothlit: Hrm... I be this might be likely... hold on.06:40
troy_snothlit: Perhaps for that sort of purpose, deriving exactly ONE palette from06:41
troy_sa sunset image might meet the needs06:41
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freakboysystemhello09:43
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freakboysystemany1 there10:02
troy_sfreakboysystem: Hello10:06
troy_sfreakboysystem: What do you require?10:06
freakboysystemnothing i was wondering if ubuntu has any free pdf magazines stupid thing to ask but , yeh?10:07
troy_sfreakboysystem: I think the marketing team did some strange thing up like htat.10:08
troy_sfreakboysystem: Also, if you need to speak to someone, preface your comment with their name (type the first letter or two and hit tab)10:08
troy_sfreakboysystem: it will ping them on their system and let them know that you have a question.10:08
freakboysystemtroy_s: ok thankyou, im bored i think i might design one!10:09
darkmattertroy_s is correct, the marketing team is *VERY* strange10:09
darkmatter:D10:09
freakboysystemlol10:09
troy_sdarkmatter: We are no better unfortunately.10:10
darkmatterlol10:10
troy_sdarkmatter: Although methinks they could do better with a few MBAs on their team.10:10
troy_sdarkmatter: In much the same manner that we are lacking cred.10:10
darkmatterits the whole geek thing. it has no room for that sanity crap10:10
troy_sdarkmatter: Well it had better reconcile it.  The half assed amateuritus will eventually wear down any sort of mainstream momentum it gets.10:11
darkmatteryup10:11
troy_sdarkmatter: It really needs some solid rocks to stand on.  Arguably the folks like Eric Raymond, Stallman etc. were those rocks early going.  We need a new set to push us into the new millennium.10:11
darkmatteranyway... the final vision for glory is complete. I'm going to see if I can get the pixmap version up n running by the weekend10:11
troy_sdarkmatter: Good stuffs.  Screenshot?10:12
troy_sof twf or something?10:12
darkmatternot yet.. just working on some pixmaps while the lads at school10:12
troy_sdarkmatter: Is it colorizable or nay?10:13
darkmatterI figured out the skinning of the pathbar, mostly10:13
darkmatternope.. the initial build is non transparent for the general widgets10:13
darkmatterso no colorizing as of yet10:13
darkmatterbut it will be one I get the pixmaps out and get some feedback10:14
darkmatterbecause then comes the fun of transferring everything to cairo10:14
darkmatterengine time pretty soon10:15
darkmattertroy_s, but the engine part may take a bit... I'm doing the opposite of the whole "every widget looks the same" crap. it'll have full custom widget support coded in for the panel etc10:17
troy_shrm... how are you going to do that?10:17
troy_susing the lua engine?10:17
darkmatteras in make a "modern" engine instead of the round-win-98 clearlooks umm... sh*te10:18
darkmattertroy, not lua.. just cairo, but with the extra code for the panel instead of just reusing the button widgets.. not that hard to do really10:19
darkmatterjust time consuming.10:19
darkmatterI would base it of lua, but the code for lua isnt quite mature yet10:19
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darkmattertroy_s, but if you want a general idea, take a look at the tango palette. The glory palette is basically a modded version. bg_color is #eeeeec10:26
troy_sek10:26
darkmatterit works nicely actually, has a fairy faint beige tint10:27
darkmatterand its not glaring like gilouche, not win 2000 like clearlooks :P10:28
darkmatterthats one of the things that drives me nuts about suse... its way to bright... ok for an lcd but painful on a crt10:29
troy_swell... deep saturation is rather...10:30
troy_spassee10:30
troy_sjust not exactly top contemporary10:30
darkmatterwell.. hence the modded version of the palette.. the eeeeec isnt that saturated looking10:30
troy_sgood stuff10:31
darkmatterhttp://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=484764319&size=o10:31
darkmatterthats still the last weeks view10:32
darkmatterbuttons are going to be much nicer (outline and shadow)10:32
darkmatterI'm thinking lighting it from the 11 o'clock position10:32
darkmatterstill looks weird, as its a slow build off morning glory10:33
darkmatterbut thats the eeeeec10:33
darkmatterbg10:33
darkmatterso the buttons should feel more natural. basically, though not accurate as a description, they'll be a general light  -> dark shift in the outline in a counterclockwise rotation starting at the top10:40
darkmatterthin down the shadows and make it more complete10:41
darkmatteretc10:41
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troy_sdarkmatter: That shadow, as much as I love shadows, is a little odd... it puts the light very close and above, which is fine, except the rest of the shading seems to defy that.11:01
darkmattertroy_s, yeah, which is why I'm moving to a more natural shadow (right and bottom) and 11 o'clock lighting for the widgets for as shadows and outlines11:03
troy_swoot11:03
troy_si'll buy that11:03
troy_sin a heartbeat11:03
troy_stop left light guy here.11:03
darkmatter:)11:03
troy_slol11:03
troy_si'd love to see your mocks of that version11:03
darkmatteronce I finish more widgets, then I'll fix the button lighting'11:04
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