[07:16] <man-di> vil: please test http://people.debian.org/~mkoch/java-gcj-compat/
[07:16] <man-di> it should fix the tools.jar issue
[07:19] <vil>   * java-gcj-compat-dev: Add a tools.jar symlink.   -- Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>  Mon,  7 May 2007 15:51:24 +0200 
[07:19] <vil> doko already put it in gutsy
[07:20] <vil> would you mind, if I try it from there?
[07:22] <man-di> WHY DOES DOKO ALWAYS ASKS ME TO DO IT WHEN HE DOES IT?
[07:22] <man-di> ITS REALLY NO FUN TO WORK WITH HIM
[07:22] <man-di> MAN
[07:25] <vil> no idea
[07:39] <vil> and java-gcj-compat from there works without a problem
[08:05] <lifeless> well to be fair you did tell doko the fix yesterday
[08:49] <man-di> lifeless: we had some private discussion too
[08:50] <man-di> anyway
[08:50] <man-di> the important thing is that its fixed
[10:05] <vil> man-di, did you get some time to look at eclipse-pydev-1.3.2 I showed you
[10:05] <vil> ?
[10:10] <man-di> not yet
[10:10] <man-di> sorry
[10:11] <man-di> its still on my todo
[10:11] <man-di> but I first need to build eclipse 3.2.2 for debian
[10:32] <vil> man-di, is there any problem with 3.2.2 on debian?
[10:36] <man-di> its just not done yet
[10:36] <man-di> I wasnt able to build it due to the java-gcj-compat breakage
[10:39] <vil> ok
[10:54] <vil> man-di, what is the status of maven2?
[10:55] <man-di> its progressing
[10:55] <man-di> most of the dependencies are in debian now
[10:55] <vil> can I help
[10:55] <vil> ?
[10:56] <man-di> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=maven2-packaging;users=pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
[10:56] <man-di> you can add you as owner of #413554 and package that
[10:57] <man-di> all the plexus-* packages in debian are good examples to see how
[11:00] <vil> ok, I will look at it
[11:11] <vil> man-di, regarding doxia
[11:11] <vil> it is built using maven. plexus solves this by supplying custom build.xml
[11:12] <vil> the same needs to happen for doxia
[11:12] <vil> will this change in the future, when we will have maven or does it need stick to that build.xml?
[11:12] <vil> this is called bootstrapping, right?
[11:14] <man-di> right
[11:17] <vil> and will we change that to pom.xml in the future or not?
[11:18] <man-di> we will
[11:19] <vil> well, this does not sound like a very useful work :(
[11:20] <man-di> we need this to actuallu build maven
[11:21] <man-di> and the changes from build.xml to pom.xml are then pretty small when the rest is already done properly
[11:22] <vil> I do understand that, but still some work will be thrown away and we know that from the very begining
[11:23] <man-di> thats always the problem with bootstrapping
[11:23] <man-di> when its done we dont have the problem anymore in the future
[11:24] <man-di> someone needs to go the hard way to make it easier for the following
[11:25] <vil> nice :)
[11:26] <vil> anyway, thanks for explaining
[11:26] <man-di> np
[12:52] <vil> man-di, should the doxia package(s) be called like doxia-something-java or libdoxia-... ?
[12:53] <vil> to me it looks more like lib because I found only jars in the result
[01:09] <man-di> libdoxia-something-java
[01:09] <man-di> only jars means nothing
[01:10] <man-di> there are plenty of upstreams that tell users to execute java -jar jarname.jar and ship no script
[03:26] <leap0119> dharrigan, jamesstansell lifeless man-di
[03:26] <leap0119> estan?
[03:26] <leap0119> ubuntulog, 
[03:26] <leap0119> estan?
[03:27] <dharrigan> ?
[03:37] <leap0119> dharrigan, ha trabajado con jasperreport?
[03:37] <dharrigan> Nope, haven't tried it.
[03:37] <leap0119> ???
[03:37] <dharrigan> ???
[03:37] <leap0119> dharrigan, no hablo ingles
[03:38] <leap0119> hablas espaol?
[03:38] <leap0119> dharrigan, 
[03:38] <leap0119> ?
[03:38] <dharrigan> I don't speak spanish
[03:38] <dharrigan> io parlo italiano
[06:19] <marcin> hey people