[03:04] <beuno> boredandblogging: ping?
[03:10] <beuno> anyway
[03:10] <beuno> releasing now
[03:11] <beuno> this issue is 100% yours
[03:11] <beuno> so congrats on a great job
[03:25] <boredandblogging> beuno, hey
[03:25] <boredandblogging> think Burg did some stuff
[03:25] <boredandblogging> don't want to take all the credit :-P
[03:26] <beuno> ah, well, I'm releasing right now
[03:27] <boredandblogging> cool
[05:32] <beuno> jenda: when you're around, the UWN is out, is there any way I can post in the UWN section in the forums?
[09:06] <Burgundavia> beuno: you around
[09:06] <Burgundavia> ?
[10:06] <jenda> beuno: ping
[10:07] <jenda> hmm, asleep, of course
[10:07] <jenda> Burgundavia: and you should be, too ;)
[10:07] <Madpilot> @now Madrid
[10:07] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Madrid: May 08 2007, 10:07:38 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 11 hours 52 minutes
[10:07] <Madpilot> nah, it's midmorning where Burg is
[10:21] <jenda> ah, I see :)
[10:21] <jenda> same timezone as I am, in fact.
[10:22] <MenZa> Yep
[10:23] <jenda> beuno: once you come back: You are a moderator in the forum section for the UWN, so you can post there. You can use http://koltsoff.com/pub/reformat.py to reformat the UWN from moin to BBcode. Once reformatted add a title and a disclaimer at the top (see the other 4 UWNs already there).
[10:23] <jenda> beuno: I added #39
[10:39] <rjian_> hello guys.. :) whats new here? :D
[10:39] <rjian_> @now Philippines
[10:40] <MenZa> @now Copenhagen
[10:40] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Copenhagen: May 08 2007, 10:40:06 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 11 hours 19 minutes
[10:40] <MenZa> @now Manila
[10:40] <ubotu> Current time in Asia/Manila: May 08 2007, 16:40:12 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 11 hours 19 minutes
[10:40] <MenZa> ;)
[10:40] <rjian_> MenZa: hehe just testing the bot
[10:40] <MenZa> By the way, when did we get ubotu in here, jenda?
[10:40] <jenda> MenZa: about a year ago ;)
[10:40] <rjian> yeah 
[10:40] <rjian> hehe
[10:40] <MenZa> oh?
[10:40] <MenZa> !botsnack
[10:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:40] <MenZa> heh
[10:40] <jenda> check this for me, please :)
[10:41] <MenZa> yay for geeky jokes.
[10:41] <jenda> "That's right, diggers! If you've always wanted to stay up-to-date with what happens throughout the Ubuntu community, but didn't want to read the UWN in your email or on the wiki - now's your chance! The UWN contains short summaries of what happened this week in all parts of the community. A UWN a week, keeps you a good geek!"
[10:41] <MenZa> hm
[10:41] <jenda> A UWN a week, keeps you a good geek ;)
[10:41] <MenZa> I don't like "keeps you a good geek"
[10:41] <MenZa> other than that
[10:41] <jenda> damn
[10:41] <MenZa> nice
[10:41] <MenZa> well, rephrase it slightly
[10:41] <rjian> hehe
[10:41] <MenZa> "A UWN a week makes a very happy geek"
[10:41] <jenda> Ever heard "An apple a day, keeps the doctor away"?
[10:42] <MenZa> Oh yes.
[10:42] <rjian> wats new here?
[10:42] <MenZa> I'd omit the comma there, though ;)
[10:42] <jenda> yes, it doesn't belong, gramattically... lemme see...
[10:42] <MenZa> gramatically, and no, it doesn't :)
[10:42] <jenda> yeah, yeah, yeah ;)
[10:43] <jenda> I knew that was misspelt, but didn't want to backspace to it ;)
[10:43] <jenda> hehe
[10:43] <MenZa> aw
[10:53] <jenda> MenZa: now: This is the Official Ubuntuforums chatter hole || Use !ops only in emergencies. || Be nice when playing with the bots! || We'd Appreciate it if you give heed to the CoC! || Next Forum Council Meeting Fri May 18th 20:00UTC ~ Be there or be square!
[10:53] <jenda> erm
[10:53] <jenda> 's not what I meant :)
[10:54] <jenda> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_now_available_on_the_Ubuntu_Forums
[10:54] <MenZa> lol
[10:54] <jenda> this is
[11:06] <MenZa> how does one reclaim ones openpgp keys?
[11:07] <jenda> MenZa: you mean, revoke?
[11:07] <MenZa> yes
[11:07] <jenda> MenZa: as in, burn, destroy, hack and blow up?
[11:07] <jenda> You need to generate a revocation certificate
[11:07] <jenda> and then use it.
[11:07] <MenZa> splain
[11:08] <jenda> I'm not sure if it can be done without the private key
[11:08] <MenZa> oh.
[11:08] <MenZa> well that's a bummer.
[11:08] <jenda> MenZa: I would 'splain', if I knew anything about it ;)
[11:08] <MenZa> A moment of carelessness!
[11:08] <jenda> you should always generate a revoc certificate when making a key...
[11:08] <jenda> ...that said, I never do.
[11:08] <MenZa> haha
[11:08] <MenZa> oh well
[11:10] <MenZa> oh well
[11:10] <MenZa> generating a new key now
[11:10] <MenZa> waiting for key to be generated
[11:11] <MenZa> so I'm just typing randomly now :D
[11:11] <MenZa> how's that sound?
[11:11] <MenZa> :P
[11:11] <MenZa> huweeee
[11:12] <jenda> MenZa: disk operations work better
[11:13] <jenda> MenZa: try copying a movie from one partition to another ;)
[11:13] <MenZa> haha
[11:13] <MenZa> it's gen'ed
[11:13] <MenZa> 2048 bits :p
[11:14] <jenda> whee
[11:17] <MenZa> jenda, where do I get my key-id again :/?
[11:25] <jenda> MenZa: --fingerprint
[11:26] <MenZa> fingerprint == id?
[11:26] <MenZa> silly.
[11:26] <MenZa> no, it's not :p
[11:27] <jenda> but it gives you the id
[11:28] <jenda> MenZa: the ID is the last 8 digits of a fingerprint.
[11:28] <MenZa> it does?
[11:28] <MenZa> oho.
[11:28] <jenda> and it also gives the ID on a separate line
[11:28] <MenZa> I get UID
[11:28] <MenZa> hmm
[11:28] <jenda> yeap
[11:29] <jenda> that's the ID
[11:29] <MenZa> nah, that's my name
[11:29] <jenda> XXXX/YYYYYYYY
[11:29] <MenZa> but it is the last four digits of the fingerprint
[11:29] <jenda> and the YYYYYYYY is your ID
[11:29] <MenZa> ahhhhh
[11:29] <MenZa> now
[11:29] <MenZa> to add keyserver.ubuntu.com as a keyserver
[11:29] <MenZa> hey elkbuntu
[11:52] <MenZa> ahh, seahorse
[11:55] <MenZa> jenda, you're 51D056A?
[11:56] <MenZa> (brb)
[12:00] <MenZa> back!
[12:02] <MenZa> JENDA
[12:05] <jenda> MenZa: yah!!!
[12:05] <jenda> MenZa: yeap, that's me :)
[12:06] <MenZa> Signed :)
[12:06] <MenZa> jenda: I'll sign it "Casually"
[12:06] <MenZa> I've met you, and I can easily determine this is you.
[12:06] <jenda> ah
[12:07] <jenda> :)
[12:07] <jenda> cool :)
[12:07] <jenda> thx
[12:07] <MenZa> sure np
[12:07] <jenda> I'll do the same, then... although we should verify properly next time.
[12:07] <MenZa> Yeah, I agree
[12:07] <jenda> what's your key?
[12:07] <MenZa> 2s
[12:07] <MenZa> AB05E49A
[12:08] <jenda> MenZa: which keyserver did you upload to?
[12:08] <jenda> (if any)
[12:10] <MenZa> Ubuntu'
[12:10] <MenZa> Ubuntu's
[12:10] <MenZa> keyserver.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <MenZa> "No valid armored PGP key found"
[12:11] <MenZa> wtf
[12:11] <jenda> weird
[12:11] <jenda> can't find ya either
[12:11] <MenZa> well
[12:11] <MenZa> might not've synced yet
[12:11] <MenZa> "The server at keyserver.ubuntu.com is taking too long to respond."
[12:11] <MenZa> bah
[12:11] <jenda> ah
[12:11] <jenda> Well, email me your key :)
[12:11] <MenZa> -- Firefox
[12:11] <MenZa> public keyblock?
[12:11] <MenZa> sure
[12:11] <MenZa> jenda at ubuntu?
[12:11] <jenda> no, I meant the private one
[12:11] <jenda> :-D
[12:11] <MenZa> :p
[12:12] <jenda> yep
[12:12] <MenZa> sent and signed
[12:12] <MenZa> :)
[12:13] <jenda> coolio
[12:13] <jenda> :)
[12:14] <MenZa> received?
[12:17] <jenda> yep, and sent back, signed.
[12:17] <jenda> :)
[12:17] <jenda> now get yourself some signatures of the LoCo team ;)
[12:21] <MenZa> ;P
[12:22] <MenZa> jenda: cheeky
[12:22] <MenZa> "Email/Paypal"
[12:22] <MenZa> XD
[12:22] <jenda> hehe
[12:22] <MenZa> :D
[12:22] <MenZa> signed ^_^
[12:22] <jenda> MenZa: 90% of my emails lately has been on that tone.
[12:22] <MenZa> :o
[12:22] <jenda> coolio, thx :)
[12:23] <MenZa> "Good signature from Jenda Vanura (Ubuntu) <jendBIGTOPHATubuntu.com> "
[12:23] <MenZa> :)
[12:23] <jenda> O_O
[12:23] <MenZa> ?
[12:23] <MenZa> well
[12:23] <MenZa> you don't like your email published in channels, do you :P?
[12:24] <jenda> ah
[12:24] <jenda> well, I like to scream at people who do.
[12:24] <MenZa> lol
[12:25] <jenda> But other than that, it's such a public email that there is little harm to be done.
[12:28] <MenZa> heh
[12:28] <jenda> google gives 14 hits on it :)
[12:29] <MenZa> :D
[12:34] <MenZa> yay
[12:34] <MenZa> CoC signed.
[12:38] <jenda> :*
[12:38] <jenda> *:)
[12:42] <MenZa> kissy, are we ;P?
[04:29] <boredandblogging> jenda, ping
[04:33] <beuno> Burgundavia: pong
[04:33] <beuno> jenda: pong
[04:34] <Burgundavia> beuno: nah, no worries
[04:34] <boredandblogging> beuno, can you make some fixes on the UWN in the forum?
[04:34] <beuno> boredandblogging: jenda says I can, forum says I can't, but I'll try again
[04:34] <jenda> boredandblogging: pong
[04:34] <beuno> Burgundavia: how's it going?
[04:35] <jenda> beuno: it says you can't? O_O
[04:35] <boredandblogging> jenda, I thought beuno wasn't around so I was going to ask if you could make some changes to the UWN for me on the forums
[04:35] <beuno> jenda: I tried to post yesterday and it says I don't have acccess
[04:36] <jenda> beuno: gimme a sec
[04:36] <jenda> boredandblogging: you gimme another sec
[04:37] <jenda> (No, it's not an attempt to get some secs ;))
[04:38] <jenda> beuno: still there?
[04:38] <beuno> jenda: yeap
[04:39] <jenda> beuno: What is the error you get? You have full permissions.
[04:39] <boredandblogging> maybe need to log out and log back in?
[04:40] <beuno> jenda: when I click on "Make new Post":  "beuno, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons"
[04:40] <beuno> I can edit though
[04:40] <jenda> ah
[04:40] <jenda> strange
[04:41] <jenda> beuno: that's when you try to post a new thread?
[04:41] <beuno> jenda: yeap
[04:42] <jenda> beuno: try now
[04:44] <beuno> jenda: works now, thanks!
[04:46] <jenda> :)
[05:03] <Burgundavia> beuno: not bad
[05:03] <beuno> what's the UDS been like?  I want to be there  :(
[10:24] <juliux> evening
[10:24] <juliux> jenda, ping
[10:31] <jenda> juliux: pong!
[10:32] <juliux> jenda, evening, are there more book on there way to me?
[10:33] <jenda> juliux: I hope so
[10:33] <juliux> jenda, ok
[10:33] <jenda> juliux: are there 7 already there?
[10:33] <juliux> yes
[10:33] <jenda> ok, that's marvelous :)
[10:34] <juliux> good
[10:35] <juliux> and another thing, i am a little bit irritated about the ubuntu live thing ok the mailinglist, i thought it is a canonical event, why should we as community make marketing for a commercial conference? 
[10:36] <jenda> juliux: hmm
[10:36] <jenda> I'll think about that.
[10:36] <juliux> jenda, did you see the entrace fee you have to pay?
[10:37] <jenda> yes
[10:37] <jenda> well, no, but I know you can 'save' $150 on it.
[10:37] <jenda> Is that the fee?
[10:37] <juliux> boah
[10:37] <juliux> jenda, check http://www.ubuntulive.com/pub/w/60/pricing.html
[10:38] <asdir> test
[10:38] <jenda> asdir: fail
[10:38] <jenda> HOLY F***
[10:38] <juliux> jenda, until 4 june you have to pay 745$ after that 895$
[10:38] <jenda> juliux: you ruined my day
[10:38] <juliux> jenda, so you save 150$ ;)
[10:38] <jenda> HOLY F***
[10:38] <juliux> jenda, it was my same reaktion if i check that today
[10:38] <jenda> that's the amount of a Czech's average monthly wage.
[10:39] <jenda> Isn't that a typo of some sort?
[10:39] <juliux> jenda, ask them;)
[10:39] <jenda> well, it's shocking, for sure.
[10:40] <jenda> But I still don't feel opposed to it in any way.
[10:40] <juliux> i personal don't understand why we as a volunteer marketing team should support this
[10:40] <juliux> it is a commercial event for business people
[10:40] <jenda> I feel with you.
[10:40] <juliux> that is not a community event!
[10:40] <jenda> I need to have a chat with Malcolm Yates before I form a definitive opinion.
[10:41] <jenda> I need to talk about commercial LoCo activities and swag selling.
[10:41] <juliux> but you can save 65% if you are a fulltime student;)
[10:41] <jenda> If I don't like what I hear, my opinion will likely shift to not liking community support for their commercial activities ;)
[10:42] <juliux> so it is "only" 260$ for students
[10:42] <jenda> (BTW, there are 2 meals in that price for several days...)
[10:42] <jenda> 3 days
[10:43] <juliux> jenda, i don't change anything for me it is a commercial event
[10:43] <jenda> Yes, it is.
[10:43] <jenda> I don't have an implicit aversion to that, though.
[10:44] <juliux> i think it is ok but, they shouldn't ask the community promote it;)
[10:49] <jenda> I'll think about it :)
[10:50] <juliux> jenda, i gave 1,5h workshop today and a 1h talk and a 1h discussion;)
[10:51] <jenda> neat
[10:51] <jenda> how was it?
[10:51] <juliux> in salzburg austria
[10:51] <juliux> was not bad
[10:51] <juliux> the discussion was with people from fedora and opensuse;9
[11:01] <juliux> gn8
[11:15] <Gwaihir> hi all...
[11:16] <Gwaihir> is anybody here interested in the commercial for Ubuntu?
[11:16] <Gwaihir> MefistoRQ has passed an email on the ML a couple of days ago...
[11:17] <Gwaihir> I would like to know any news/comment/anything-else so to talk to the guy who would do this...
[11:18] <MefistoRQ> hello there
[11:24] <MefistoRQ> uhm .. 
[11:25] <l3on_> hi all :)
[11:25] <MefistoRQ> Gwaihir: ... maybe they are sleeping... you could wake them up
[11:29] <l3on_> would you like a lot of italian coffee ? :D
[11:38] <MefistoRQ> ciao!
[11:38] <l3on_> bye all