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maxamillionJester45: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxAndDualMonitors.html12:25
Jester45ok umm12:26
Jester45re paste that once i get on with gaim, im in irssi now12:26
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maxamillion<3 irssi12:26
h3sp4wnThats not , one terminal running the console and another running X12:26
maxamillionh3sp4wn: wait ... is that what he wants to do?12:27
h3sp4wnmaxamillion: I think so12:27
h3sp4wn23:24 < Jester45> i dont want X on the first screen12:27
maxamillion17:28 < Jester45> i just want them both to run at the same time12:28
maxamillionnow i'm confused12:28
h3sp4wnTo me that implied using them both usefully at the same time (but it doesn't make sense thinking about it properly)12:29
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Jester45sorry about that12:36
Jester45i tried useing xdm and when i switched from f1 to f7 its frooze12:36
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Merchelohow to install xp12:56
Merchelohttp://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/wrong26.jpg12:56
GrueTamerhahahahaha12:57
michaelpohow do i make xubuntu automatically login/01:00
GrueTamermichaelpo: might have to edit some configuration files, sorry i cant be of more help, as ive never really looked into it01:04
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GrueTamerif youre willing to do some serious looking, examine how a livecd works...or just browse the internet :)01:04
michaelpoGrueTamer: thanks... how about launching the onscreen virtual keyboard// it is not in the app menu... package manager said it is installed already...01:05
GrueTamerno clue01:11
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Whamazoom!automatix01:15
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe01:15
michaelpoGrueTamer: how do i add items into the app menu/01:16
GrueTamerhummm...main menu i think01:16
Whamazoom!worksforme > Whamazoom01:16
GrueTameri wish i had xfce open right now01:16
WhamazoomAdd apps to the Xfce bar?01:16
GrueTamerwait, i have it wrong01:17
GrueTamerum...what was it01:17
GrueTamerright click on the panel and type "add new launcher" or something like that01:17
GrueTamerbbl, dinner01:17
Whamazoomrightclick Xfce bar, configure, then add a launcher, specify the pixmap (/usr/share/pixmap) then add the command01:17
Whamazoomno configure....just add new item01:18
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michaelpohow do i add the accessibility category into the menu/01:20
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kalikiana_michaelpo, Are you speaking of the applications menu? I don't think there's a menu with that name at all.01:21
michaelpo//join #df01:21
Whamazoommichaelpo: goto applications, then system settings, then menu editor01:21
michaelpoxubuntu cannot use my shift keys;;... so i want to use the virtual keyboard...01:23
WhamazoomDid you install onBoard?01:23
michaelpoonboard is installed by default... but it is not showing up at the apps menu01:24
Whamazoomjust type onboard in a terminal :D01:24
michaelpook... thanks...01:26
michaelpogtg now... thanks...01:26
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viddcan anyone recommend a pcmcia wireless card that works out-of-the-box?01:41
viddseems like all the ones i find are all bcm43xx cards01:42
vidd=\01:42
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nicholas76Get your own free domain! http://www.domainlagoon.com/?ref=1731502:01
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viddOMG a spambot!02:01
Catoptromancynever!02:12
Catoptromancyheh02:12
viddha! i have a lappy with a fully functional dial-up modem!02:13
viddbut the wifi card (pcmcia) doesnt work02:13
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viddonly 23hours and 58 minutes to download updates from fresh dapper install02:14
cliebowlspci show  it??02:14
cliebowno02:15
viddits a bcm43xx card02:15
cliebowpool inot bcm43xx02:15
cliebowballs02:15
cliebowlook in to bcm43xx02:15
cliebowand fwcutter02:16
viddthe bcm43xx only works with ndiswrapper02:16
cliebowor ibook g402:16
viddthis update via dial-up is going to take forever02:17
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Jester45anyone know of a lightweight cli music player with playlist support?03:00
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cellofellowmp3blaster03:00
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brianwmpd is nice03:10
brianwand can be controlled remotely w/ various clients03:10
cellofelloweven FoxyTunes in Firefox03:10
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Catoptromancy_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19713/03:14
Catoptromancy_Anyone have any clue on how to put ALSA in the client list under the right number03:15
Catoptromancy_and get rid of a few timidities03:15
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GrueTameris configuring anthy supposed to take a long time?03:23
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GrueTamerim installing xubuntu on the machine next to me, and while i know its very OLD, i feel that a few hours of configuring is pretty long03:23
Catoptromancy_what exact screen is it on?03:24
GrueTamerits on Select and install software in the alternate install, at 65% done, and it says its Configuring anthy03:24
Catoptromancy_my super old PC freezes for hours on installing "systems files"03:24
GrueTamerits not a big deal if its frozen for the time being, ill just let it run till its done03:24
Catoptromancy_Is this a Live CD?03:24
GrueTamernah, alternate03:24
GrueTamerlivecd would fry it :)03:25
Catoptromancyya I had another old PC that could run Alternate03:25
GrueTamerill give it a day before i get worried03:25
Catoptromancybut another really old PC didnt install overnight03:25
GrueTameri dont really care how long this takes, i just want it done03:26
GrueTamereventually03:26
Catoptromancyhow fast is it?03:26
Catoptromancyor ram03:26
GrueTamerjust 64, barely squeaks by03:26
GrueTameri know, i should try something lighter...well, i know that xfce has the capabilities to run pretty darn well on it03:26
Catoptromancysome reason its just the install that seems to need more ram03:27
GrueTameri think you need 128mb just to run the livecd03:27
Catoptromancyon my super old PC that couldnt handle the Alternate, Win2000 installed fine03:27
GrueTamerwin98 installs fine03:28
GrueTamerbut, come on, its windows 98 :)03:28
Catoptromancyheh03:28
Catoptromancy6gbs of fun03:28
GrueTamerthats almost as large as the hard drive :)03:29
Catoptromancythat was the hardriver I tried to install on03:29
Catoptromancy-r03:29
GrueTamerive got just a shade over 6 gigs03:29
Catoptromancyheh I tried putting xubnutu on a 2.5 gb HD I still have03:29
Catoptromancymy PC cried03:30
GrueTamerthis pc is in the room where i sleep, so the only thing im worried about slightly is if the noise of the machine will annoy me or not03:30
Catoptromancy#ubuntu is impossible03:34
CatoptromancyI ask a question and before I can even read it, its already scrolled past the top03:34
Catoptromancywith more people asking questions heh03:34
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BrendanMhey, so if I wanted to install nethack, which package would be best for Xubuntu?03:58
BrendanMnethack-gnome? nethack-qt? nethack-x11?03:58
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DanielXHello everyone04:01
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test3rhey - is there a "Network Availability" icon to add to the Top Panel that will let me know when I am near a WiFi network / signal strength ?04:03
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test3r!network availability04:04
Jester45anyone here use mpd? i cant seem to get mine to play04:04
test3r!network04:04
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:04
Catoptromancyright click a task bar04:04
Catoptromancyselect network icon04:04
Catoptromancymight be what you need04:05
Catoptromancy"add new item " in right click04:05
test3rwell, thats a bandwidth monitor, which i still needed, but is not what I had in mind. I meant a Signal Strength monitor for WiFi signals for Any close network04:25
test3ri found it04:27
test3rits called wifi-radar04:27
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test3rno it's rly rly not. lol.  helpful tool, again, but not what I was looking for.04:50
test3rmaybe im just in a bad spot04:50
test3rmaybe i need to float outside04:50
test3rright now im resizing my ext3 in hopes that nubuntu will enjoy the new space04:52
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tunahi06:43
tunai need some help06:43
tunayou see, I can't double click06:44
tunait's impossible!06:44
tunaLike when I double click a word and it's supposed to select it, right?06:44
tunadoesn't happen!06:44
tunait works when i log out, but not at any other time06:45
tunai have xubuntu feisty06:45
tunaand i have compiz running06:45
crimsunreproducible /without/ compiz running?06:45
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colin___how do i install xubuntu from apt?06:48
colin___i forgot to choose it during the net install and only have the base installed06:48
colin___i tried apt-get install xubuntu but that didn't work06:48
colin___hello??06:49
kalikiana__colin___, 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'06:49
colin___thanka thanka06:49
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kalikiana__colin___, In the future 'apt-cache search keyword' might help ;)06:49
colin___yeah i shoulda tried that06:50
colin___so is it as easy to install a printer in xubuntu as it is in ubuntu?06:50
kalikiana__colin___, Actually I have no idea - I don't use Ubuntu, so I can't compare.06:52
tunaback06:53
tunalet me try it with copmizturned off06:54
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tunacrimsun: nope, still does it with or without compiz06:54
crimsunwhat does xev tell you regarding the taps?06:55
tuna...what?06:55
tunaxev? taps?06:56
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crabgras1how do i change the system font?06:57
tunaApplications>Settings>User Interface Preferences06:58
tunaIs that what you want?06:58
tunacrimsun: are you there?06:59
crabgras1iusing XFCE, not gnome06:59
tunaright06:59
crabgras1*i'm using06:59
tunaso am i06:59
crabgras1oh.06:59
crabgras1well, then where's06:59
crabgras1applications?06:59
crabgras1durp06:59
crabgras1nm07:00
tunacheck the top left corner :D07:00
tunanew to xfce?07:00
crabgras1i didn't see it first time around07:00
crabgras1somewhat, and the first thing i did was get rid of the default menu =/07:00
crabgras1but it's working out!07:00
tuna:D nice07:00
tunawell is that what you wanted?07:00
tunabrb07:01
crabgras1sure is07:02
crabgras1and everything's a whole lot shinier now.07:02
crabgras1thanks!07:02
tunayou are quite welcome07:02
tunaback07:02
tunaok, can someone PUH-LEEZ help me?07:03
crabgras1i'll give it a shot.07:03
tunaok, here's the prob07:03
tunai'm in xfce07:03
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tunaand when I try to double or triple-click, it doesn't work07:03
tunait only recognizes single clicks07:03
tunaso when I want to select a word by double clicking, it doesn't work07:04
crabgras1settings > desktop > behavior07:04
tunareally annoying07:04
crabgras1try that07:04
crabgras1wait, no. tnot what i thought it was.07:04
crabgras1oh07:04
crabgras1settings > file manager > behavior07:04
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tunai don't think that's what i want...07:06
tunaok, you know how when you double click a window, it minimizes?07:06
crabgras1you sure?07:06
tunayes07:06
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tunaor when you double click a word, it highlights?07:07
crabgras1yeah07:07
tunawell when I try something like that, it doesn't do anything07:07
tunait acts like i just clicked it once07:07
crabgras1hmm07:07
crabgras1try changing the doubleclick speed in the mouse options07:08
tunait worked!07:08
tunathanks07:09
crabgras1np np07:09
tunai love this channel :D07:09
tunabye!07:09
crabgras1lol yup07:09
crabgras1oops07:10
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crabgrassthere we go07:10
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binormalanybody know the easiest way to setup a serial mouse in xubuntu07:40
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BFTDhrm08:17
BFTDyo all08:17
BFTDanyone up?08:17
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tuxcrafterhi guys\09:08
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Rasihi09:17
Rasi i just tried to install my epson dx3850 on feisty.. but when i chose the model and want to apply it it says "you need package gutenprint-foomatic" which does not exist09:18
Rasiwhen i install "foomatic-db-gutenprint", which seemed logical to me, nothing changed09:18
Rasiany idea?09:18
maxamillionRasi: uhmm... let me take a peek into the repo and see if there is something to fix that09:19
maxamillionRasi: ah, i believe the package you are in need of is called: cupsys-driver-gutenprint09:20
Rasik.. will give it a try, thx09:20
Rasihehe09:20
Rasi"is already the most recent version"09:20
maxamillionhuh ... that's a fun one09:21
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Rasifun thing is, a just read in a forum, that one has got it running on ubuntu without doing anything09:21
maxamillionRasi: ah, i bet there is something in the gnome printer manager that makes it "just work" ... while you can install the gnome printer tool i will warn that it will download a decent number of gnome libraries and could potentially take up system resources09:24
Rasiwhich i will definately not do, hehe :P09:24
maxamilliondon't blame you09:25
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esculapiushi everyone10:25
esculapiuscan anyone help me finding resources to correctly install an configure an10:25
esculapiusADSL USB modem10:25
esculapiusD-link DSL-302t10:26
esculapiuson xubunt10:26
esculapiuswhere I have to start from?10:26
esculapiusI'haven't found nothing really specific about that subject10:26
esculapiusand before installing xubuntu on this machine i would have reasonable probability to achieve10:27
esculapiusthia10:27
esculapiusanyone listening to?10:27
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predaeusesculapius, ask in #ubuntu there is more traffic there and this would be the same procedure for both I think10:31
esculapiusok10:35
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reaVersomeone here good with svn?10:48
reaVersome jackass emptied an entire reposity, and I'm trying to undo his change10:48
reaVerthe logical approach svn up -r x;svn commit failed10:49
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h3sp4wnreaVer: svn revert ?12:25
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lysergidesup h3sp4wn12:32
h3sp4wnnot much12:40
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davehi all, my font size has just gone huge. I've had this appen on other Xubuntu installs. what is the problem??01:10
daveI restarted the computer and when I logged back in the font size had gone up to what looks like 14px-ish. But in interface settings says 901:12
h3sp4wndave: any more information ?01:13
davenot really i'm afraid01:16
davewhat do you want?01:16
h3sp4wnNot sure (I don't have any ideas currently though :/)01:17
h3sp4wnespecially as 100dpi is hardcoded by /etc/X11/xinit/xserver-rc01:18
davehmm. i checked my xorg.conf and default depth is 2401:18
h3sp4wndave: xdpyinfo | grep resolution (what does that say)01:18
h3sp4wn(dots per inch - I would expect it to say 100)01:19
h3sp4wnhas just the size of the fonts changed or the screen resolution also ?01:19
daveresolution:    125x126 dots per inch01:19
h3sp4wnwierd01:19
davehow can I change it back to 100?01:20
h3sp4wncan you pastebin - /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc01:20
h3sp4wnare you using nvidia or fglrx or free drivers ?01:20
graziedave: The font size in xfce often seems to be a problem. This was guide that helped for small fonts on edgy >> http://xubuntuguide.org/tiki-index.php?page=En:Edgy&redirectpage=Edgy#Small_font_sizes01:24
h3sp4wngrazie: fonts in linux is still a problem (for me at least)01:24
h3sp4wn(with lcd panels that have bad edid data anyway)01:25
grazieh3sp4wn: Only ever had problems with xfce myself, which I've been using since Christmas01:25
h3sp4wngrazie: by default I always get a multicolored tint on all fonts01:26
h3sp4wn(physical size of screen is 96x96 exactly but the edid reports 95x96)01:27
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davesorry for the absence guys... I use fglrx01:48
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dave#!/bin/sh01:49
daveexec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp01:49
davethats my whole xserverrc01:49
h3sp4wnhmmm01:50
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darrenddave: do the fonts in firefox look similar?  FF by default uses a slightly different rendering/dpi mechanism (not sure of the details)02:13
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h3sp4wnabout:config (there is a css.dpi that should be set to what you are actually using)02:14
h3sp4wnbut the dpi should be what the screen measures to be02:14
darrendcorrect,  (it's called "layout.css.dpi" I think) but it's not set by default02:15
darrendnormally with font size issues, FF does something slightly different02:15
darrendyou can also force the DPI in XFCE by amending ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb02:15
h3sp4wnYeah I still haven't got my fonts exactly as I want them02:15
darrendby adding the line "Xft.dpi=100" or whatever you want it to be02:16
darrendthat last fix worked for me on the one machine I have seen this problem on (my laptop)02:16
h3sp4wnYeah I use that (but at 96)02:17
darrendmine's at 7202:17
h3sp4wnOption          "UseEdidDpi" "0" \n Option          "DPI" "96x96" (in xorg.conf)02:17
darrendbut, whatever works for you.  It seems to be the one thing XFCE takes notice of consistently02:17
h3sp4wnIts still not as good as it was when I was useing gentoo (strange the reason I switched was to get rid of the messing around but so far I have spent more time messing around)02:18
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darrendinteresting, I switched from gentoo also as I was getting fed up with breakages every time a new system component got broken.  I just needed a machine (esp for work) that "just worked"02:19
darrendI've spent WAY less time in sys conf with xubuntu than gentoo02:19
h3sp4wnI was using ~amd64 (with enlightenment and xeffects overlays - and paludis)02:20
h3sp4wnand I had very little hassle at all02:20
darrendgentoo was great for me for about 3 years, then about a year ago every time a major component got upgraded it seemed to cause all sorts of issues02:20
darrendthings like glibc or baselayout turning up in emerge world -p used to fill me with dread02:21
darrendas I knew it would be another day lost02:21
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Balaley.. how do i get my monitors refresh rate to 100 HZ?02:23
h3sp4wnBalal: what driver are you using ?02:24
darrendcan your monitor *cope* with 100Hz?02:24
BalalI've installed the nvidia drivers..02:26
Balali've ran 100 HZ in windows. i'm new you see ;)02:26
darrendit's CRT, not TFT/LCD I take it02:27
Balaljeah02:27
h3sp4wnBalal: have you got the specs in correctly ?02:27
h3sp4wnfor your monitor02:27
Balalwhat do you mean? hah02:28
Balalspec?02:28
Balals02:28
h3sp4wnHorizSync and VertRefresh02:28
h3sp4wnyou will be able to get them from the monitors manual02:28
darrendyou need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root - add/amend HorizSync and VertRefresh02:28
darrendheh - I'll leave it to h3sp4wn02:28
h3sp4wnwith nvidia (if those 2 are in right)02:29
Balaloh.. i tried02:29
Balaldon't know what to put them on ;p02:29
Balalkk02:29
h3sp4wn Modes           "1280x1024_100" "1024x768_100" "800x600_100" "640x480_100"02:29
h3sp4wnonce those are in correctly you can just add _100 etc to each modes02:29
h3sp4wnwhat refresh rate is it saying ?02:29
Balal2 sec02:30
h3sp4wnand are you using dapper or feisty or edgy ?02:30
BalalSection "Monitor"02:31
Balal    Identifier     "Generic Monitor"02:31
Balal    HorizSync       28.0 - 51.002:31
Balal    VertRefresh     43.0 - 60.002:31
Balal    Option         "DPMS"02:31
BalalEndSection02:31
Balalfeisty..?02:31
Balali guess02:31
darrendthose look like values for a TFT02:31
h3sp4wnwhat does - cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version say02:31
Balalreally? well, i have a CRT;P02:32
BalalNVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9631  Thu Nov  9 17:38:10 PST 200602:33
BalalGCC version:  gcc version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)02:33
BalalNVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9631  Thu Nov  9 17:38:10 PST 200602:33
BalalGCC version:  gcc version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)02:33
h3sp4wnthat nvidia will report bogus hz ratings anyway02:33
h3sp4wnBalal: Do you actually have the specs for the monitor ?02:34
Balali don't know what specs is;p02:34
h3sp4wnNormally in the manual of the monitor those specifications would be listed02:35
Balalah.. hehe. i don't have the manual either02:35
Balalbut never mind02:35
h3sp4wnfind the model number and try to look it up on the web02:35
Balalapparently i can't have any sound :\02:35
Balalsooo02:35
Balalback to windows i guess :|02:36
h3sp4wnor you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (select medium and a suitable resolution)02:36
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reaVerh3sp4wn: nope03:58
reaVerrevert is clientside only03:58
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h3sp4wnreaVer: have you fixed it now ?04:07
h3sp4wnif he removed them probably you have to re svn add them04:07
reaVerh3sp4wn: yeah04:08
reaVerno, we did a merge with an older revision04:08
h3sp4wnreaVer: svn switch (have you ever used that correctly ?) everytime I have tried I ended up just needing a new checkout04:09
reaVerh3sp4wn: no, I didn't use switch04:09
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dadan_xi installed xubuntu 6.10 with a certain videocard and now i need to replace it, how do i start xserver with the new card without reinstalling the whole system?04:27
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predaeusdadan_x, basically you would have to have the kernel drivers for that new card installed and also the X drivers and those set in xorg.conf I think04:29
predaeus!nvidia04:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:30
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dadan_xi have an old S3 trio card04:32
dadan_xthe machine is rather old04:32
dadan_xthat's why i have installed xubuntu04:33
h3sp4wnchange back to vesa prior to swapping the card04:33
dadan_x"Change back to vesa prior to swapping the card:" and how to do that?04:33
h3sp4wndadan_x: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (select vesa and go thru the wizard)04:34
dadan_xoke thank you!04:34
h3sp4wnx should still work but very slowly (on both cards)04:34
h3sp4wnthen you can deal with setting up the new card one its in04:34
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DrCurlhi04:37
h3sp4wnHi04:37
DrCurlI made the switch to xubuntu, very very clean04:37
DrCurlI like the way it handles removable media04:37
DrCurlorage is sweet too!04:37
DrCurlI have no sound in gaim, do I have to install gstreamer to fix this? or just esd?04:39
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TheSheepDrCurl: just esd04:40
DrCurlthe package is esound I guess?04:41
h3sp4wnthere is something that is recommended instead of esd these days isn't there (pulseaudio ?)04:43
TheSheepDrCurl: yes04:43
DrCurlTheSheep: thanks04:43
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DrCurlhmm, still have no sound :(04:44
TheSheepDrCurl: do you have any sound at all?04:45
DrCurlyes, I have sound. When I start esd, I get a serie of sounds in my speaker, flash works as well04:46
DrCurlwhen I go in gaim sound pref, and select automatic or esd for sound, I get nothing, even in the sound testing part04:47
TheSheep:/04:47
TheSheepDrCurl: maybe you need the gstreamer after all?04:48
DrCurlmaybe that is the way gaim is built in ubuntu, gonna test it with gstreamer, brb04:48
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h3sp4wnI am certain pulseaudio was recommended over esd (by cr imsun) and its supposed to be fully compatible04:49
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DrCurlnice, now that I have installed gstreamer, I can't remove it, cause apt-get it wants to remove gaim as well04:59
DrCurland it wasn't working with gstreamer anyway, only way I could get it to work was through using aplay command05:00
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TheSheepThe_Cleric: yes05:27
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TheSheepsomerville32: \o/05:27
somerville32:D05:28
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somerville32(#xubuntu-devel) TheSheep, How goes the theme?05:48
TheSheepsomerville32: shelved05:49
somerville32Why so?05:50
TheSheepsomerville32: I'll continue when I install drupal somewhere05:51
somerville32TheSheep: I have a server you can use if that is the issue.05:54
TheSheepsomerville32: no, I have lots of servers, I just need to learn about drupal05:56
somerville32I can install it for you.05:56
TheSheepsomerville32: I will need to learn it anyways05:57
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somerville32Does anyone have any ideas why my mic would not work?06:18
TheSheepsomerville32: run aumix and set it to recording06:18
somerville32haha06:21
somerville32I fixed it.06:21
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boulbasalut comment on fait pour que le pav? num?rique soit verouill? quand on entre sur notre bureau graphique ?06:28
TheSheep!fr | boulba06:29
ubotuboulba: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:29
aboyousifje ne parle pas en francaise .. svp use english :)06:29
TheSheepboulba: you can check #ubuntu-artwork too06:30
boulbaok thank you06:30
adam0509well this should be numlockx... personally I has never worked for me...06:31
boulbaso what must I use ?06:32
boulbamust I script it somewhere ?06:33
hyper_chyes, zattoo finally for linux :) one app less that make me start vmware :)06:34
hyper_chit's an edgy .deb... hmmm.... gonna try it anyway06:34
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godless_!ati06:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:55
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godless_This box has an AMD Sempron 2800, should I be using the 'amd64' install?07:04
godless_Getting wretched performance from my radeon9600pro07:05
aboyousifgodless_, i think i386 will work too07:05
godless_aboyousif:  it works, yes.07:05
h3sp4wngodless_: what socket do you use ?07:05
godless_Just wondering if I would get better performance.07:05
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aboyousifgodless_, actually i didn't try it ..07:06
h3sp4wngodless_: wretched performance doing what ?07:06
godless_sorry, got distracted. All I've done so far is install, and turn on compositor :).. and the window rendering performance is terrible... like, my p3 with onboard i815 does better.07:07
godless_long wait when switching windows, repositioning, etc.07:07
aboyousifany fiesty here ? does php4 there ?07:07
h3sp4wngodless_: using free drivers ? is dri working ?07:07
godless_h3sp4wn:  I am using the default free drivers now. Thinking of using the fglrx drivers if it will help.07:08
godless_Don't know if dri is working, how would I check?07:08
godless_I also can't remember if this chip is socket A or socket 75407:08
godless_built it a while ago :/07:08
aboyousifany 7.04 users here ?07:09
h3sp4wngodless_: glxinfo | grep direct07:09
h3sp4wngodless_: are you using beryl or any of that junk07:09
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aboyousif!php407:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about php4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
godless_h3sp4wn:  Well, I hope to (that's why I installed on this machine, to play with beryl) but as it stands I am in xfce still07:10
aboyousif!fiesty07:10
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents07:10
godless_h3sp4wn:  direct rendering: Yes07:10
godless_h3sp4wn:  This is a default install, all I have done is turn on subpixel hinting and some transparency... and notice the terrible video performance.07:11
h3sp4wngodless_: There is a few things you can try adding to xorg.conf to improve performance07:11
h3sp4wnwait a minute I will find them and pastebin them07:11
godless_thanks.07:12
godless_Should I install fglrx?07:12
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h3sp4wngodless: I wouldn't07:15
h3sp4wnyou would then need to use xgl (which is a real pita)07:15
h3sp4wnhttp://pastebin.ca/47741307:15
godlessdon't I need to use xgl for beryl anyway?07:16
h3sp4wngodless: (put them in section device)07:16
h3sp4wngodless: no - with those drivers (configured right) you will be able to use aiglx07:16
grazieaboyousif: php4 is not supported on feisty (it is on edgy)07:17
aboyousifgrazie, just found that .. :(07:17
h3sp4wngodless: (it is possible to get decent performance with the free drivers)07:17
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godlessh3sp4wn:  Thanks. Restarting x...07:19
godlessHm.07:20
h3sp4wngodless: no difference ?07:20
h3sp4wnlsmod | grep radeon (kernel module loaded ? I guess it is)07:20
godlessh3sp4wn:  Rebooting has made a big difference.07:23
h3sp4wngodless: useable ?07:23
godlessrestarting gdm didn't so I rebooted. Now I can drag windows without having to wait 5 seconds! Huzzah! ;)07:23
godlessYes, quite.07:23
godlessWhere did you find those xorg options?07:24
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godlessh3sp4wn:  ie- how will I remember how to do this next time?07:24
h3sp4wnwhen messing around with my own radeon 9250 tryed all the options07:25
h3sp4wnman radeon (pretty much) took ages07:25
godlessah. Didn't know there was a man radeon.. heh07:25
h3sp4wnI just went through them and tryed to see which ones made a difference to glxgears07:26
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h3sp4wn(junk benchmark but it was at least 50% faster by the end)07:26
NallemanHi, just installed xubuntu on an old laptop, it works great so far but one thing annoys me. The splash screen does not use the whole physical screen so the "xubuntu" logo is displaced to the lower right end of the screen. anyone knows how to fix this?07:28
felicianoHi, I have xubuntu feisty installed. I'm triting to install xfce 4.4.1 with the graphic installer, but this send me a error... please help me07:29
felicianothis is the final part of the log file07:29
felicianohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19822/07:29
TheSheepNalleman: see /etc/usplash.conf07:30
godlessh3sp4wn:  Holy crap that's a lot of options :/07:31
NallemanTheSheep, thanx. this might just be it!07:31
h3sp4wngodless: that is why I kept a list of what was the best for me07:31
felicianoplease, help me07:32
TheSheepfeliciano: the beginning of the error messages would be more helpful, but the guys at #xfce may help you better07:32
felicianothey dont help me07:33
TheSheepfeliciano: please pastebin the whole log07:33
felicianook07:35
felicianoits a huge log07:38
godlessh3sp4wn:  Some of your options are not listed in man radeon: AGPSize, XAANoOffscreenPixmaps, etc...?07:39
TheSheepfeliciano: you can limit it to the last gcc call07:39
h3sp4wngodless: I think the rest came from the xorg wiki07:39
felicianoTheSheep, ok...07:40
felicianoThe Sheep... Its already... all it07:41
felicianohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19826/07:41
NallemanTheSheep, hm.. it does not seem to change when i edit the usplash.conf file. the splash its ok when i turn the computer of though after editing.07:41
aboyousif!dvd07:42
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:42
felicianoTheSheep, did you test 4.4.1?07:44
h3sp4wnfeliciano: You can build from the source in debian unstable if you want07:47
felicianoh3sp4wn... how?07:48
felicianoyou mean, compilate it??07:48
h3sp4wnfeliciano: yeah - using apt-get source with sid repositories and building it bit by bit07:49
felicianoOops... I think this is more dificult...07:49
felicianoThanks, but I'm newbie... thats why I choose graphic installer h3sp4wn07:49
h3sp4wnthat looks like its compiling it from source anyway (the so called graphical installer)07:51
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felicianoh3sp4wn, yes but, i think, is easier than compile by myself07:53
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TranceLifehello , how i can add programs to start system07:57
TranceLifei use xubuntu07:57
felicianoAplications>Configure>Autostart Aplications or something like that (I have spanish xubuntu)07:58
TranceLifeFeliciano , very thx08:00
godlessYes, applications->settings->autostarted applications08:00
TranceLifeI have one Question , where i can found drivers for iPOD...?08:03
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Nallemanso, anyone knows how to edit the splash screen settings, except for the usplasch.conf file?08:06
h3sp4wnI just don't bother with the splash at all08:07
h3sp4wn(remove splash from the defopts in menu.lst - sudo update-grub) problem solved08:07
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Nallemanhow can i make the terminal stick to the background?08:38
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ScuniziHow do I connect to my remote xbutu box graphic desktop with ssh.  Terminal ssh work now to the commandline. I'd also like the gui.09:03
TheSheepScunizi: just run any graphical application, it should display a window on your side09:06
TheSheepScunizi: if not, use ssh -X -Y to connect09:06
ScuniziTheSheep: thanks..09:06
TheSheepScunizi: you can also use something like VNC or nxclient09:07
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ScuniziTheSheep: The xbutu box is actually a dapper server with xubuntu-desktop installed, remote & headless.  I thought I could log in w/ssh then activate the desktop09:08
ScuniziTheSheep: With gnome once logged in I just type gnome-sessions after ssh -x name@IP09:08
TheSheepScunizi: there is xfce4-session, but I don't know if it will work09:09
h3sp4wnxfce4-session will work fine with nx (otherwise may as well just run individual apps)09:10
ScuniziThat's what I was looking for!  thanks!09:10
XiXaQCan someone tell me what command I should use when connecting via NX?09:11
h3sp4wnI just manually ran /usr/bin/xfce4-session when I tried it09:12
ScuniziWorked for me except it looks like it running xfce on my primary machine.  Task bar shows all my primary machine programs that are open.09:13
XiXaQh3sp4wn, thanks. :)09:13
h3sp4wnXiXaQ: I used key based auth also09:14
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XiXaQright. I got it working with that command you gave me. :)09:17
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lil_cainany idea how I'd bind my windows key to do something?09:18
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XiXaQI can't drag to select several files or folders on the desktop in Xfce. Is that normal?09:18
lil_cainI've tried keyboard shortcuts in the settings menu, but that didn't get me anywhere09:19
TheSheepXiXaQ: yes09:19
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Amon-sanhi, i got a laptop with 400 MHz and 128 MB ram how can i tweak my xubuntu 7.04 on taht machine for better performance?09:20
TheSheeplil_cain: this is a little tricky because of a bug in the key-catching part -- basically, you can do it by editing the ocnfig file09:20
lil_cainTheSheep: where's that held?09:20
TheSheepAmon-san: disable the parts you don't use09:20
Amon-sanare there guides about that on the web?09:21
TheSheeplil_cain: which one? the general shortcuts or the window manager ones?09:21
TheSheepAmon-san: yes09:21
Amon-sani feel not safe enough so i might acciently disable stuff i need09:21
lil_cainTheSheep: theone I'd need to edit to make my windows key launch something09:21
Amon-sanTheSheep: doyou have any links at hand?09:21
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TheSheeplil_cain: one is in .config/xfce4/shortcuts/<theme>.xml, the other one in .themes/<theme>/xfwm4/keythemerc09:22
lil_cainTheSheep: cool, thanks09:22
TheSheeplil_cain: where <theme> is the name of your keyboard heme (you can create a new one)09:22
TheSheepAmon-san: not at the moment, try googling or searching the forums.ubuntu.com09:23
Amon-sanok09:23
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atarinoxis there a program which i can use on linux to stream mp3's  from my windows box?09:29
h3sp4wnatarinox: fusesmb or smbmount ? (then just play as if they are local)09:29
atarinoxh3sp4wn: the windows pc is on my local network...ive never been able to access the files though, at least not in edgy. are there some upgrades in feisty which make accessing windows networks easier?09:31
h3sp4wnatarinox: Not that I know of (I don't have any windows machines here - anymore)09:33
atarinoxh3sp4wn: oh ok09:34
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knubbeanyone who can suggest a command line mp3-player with as little resource use as possible. like splay and moc.09:40
h3sp4wnopencubicplayer ?09:41
h3sp4wndoes it need to run without using floating point ?09:41
knubbeno (i dont think so)09:42
knubbei just installed ubuntu server version on my old iMac09:42
h3sp4wn!info opencubicplayer09:42
ubotuopencubicplayer: UNIX port of Open Cubic Player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.1.11-1 (feisty), package size 584 kB, installed size 1572 kB09:42
knubbeill have a look at that one, thank you09:42
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nallemanHi all, I would like to have a terminal to run in the background and maybe some freaky system status apps as well. is there som simple way to get such?09:50
knubbeh3sp4wn: opencubicplayer doesnt seem to be in edgy09:53
h3sp4wnis moc broken ?09:54
h3sp4wnknubbe: you could try backporting it09:55
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h3sp4wndeb-src line for feisty - apt-get update; apt-get build-dep opencubicplayer; apt-get -b source opencubicplayer (should give you deb's) if you are lucky09:56
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knubbeh3sp4wn: i think i figured out how to use moc now. ;-)09:58
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h3sp4wnknubbe: I quite like moc (other than the sound quality is not too good)10:02
h3sp4wnclips alot for me10:02
h3sp4wnA cli player based on xine would be good10:02
knubbei ran mp321 earlier, but it didnt work very well. the sound wasnt good at all.10:02
knubbeim using the imac as an icecast server10:03
knubbe..and client10:03
h3sp4wnDo you use another mac as a desktop ?10:03
WhamazoomIf I am trying to share files between xubuntu and XP, should I get NFS & Samba?10:03
h3sp4wnWhamazoom: you can use either (get services for unix (SFU)) or just use samba10:04
knubbeh3sp4wn: nope. we had that one to test our websites in it, but since it was mac os9 it didnt do much good nowadays.10:04
knubbeh3sp4wn: (that was our only mac)10:04
h3sp4wnah10:04
Whamazoomh3sp4wn: but would it hurt to get them both?10:04
h3sp4wnWhamazoom: Not really (services for unix would be for XP)10:04
Whamazoomok10:05
h3sp4wnfree download (or was last time I needed to use it)10:05
hyper_chknubbe: what kind of playing do you try to achieve?10:08
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kanpachihello, i just d/led the xubuntu-desktop package, i was using ubuntu before, and i really like it, i only have problem, i still see the ubuntu logo when i reboot instead of the xubuntu one, how can i fix it pleasE?10:12
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SD-Jasonhi folks -- im using the latest live CD from the website - -on 2 different machines now, ive gotten errors when the installer tries to create the EXT3 partition -- is there a workaround / etc?10:14
hyper_chkanpachi: could it be applicatiosn --> settings --> splashscreen ?10:14
kanpachiapllications?10:14
kanpachii'm using xubuntu atm10:15
hyper_chSD-Jason: did you check the CD for defects? during boot before xubuntu is started you can make a cd-check10:15
SD-Jasonhyper_ch: yes sir i did10:15
SD-Jasonit passed with no errors10:15
kanpachiand i don't mean the splash, i mean the logo that shows when you boot up, the one with the scrolling bar10:15
WhamazoomI got samba, and set the shared folder....except I need to enter a name and pass from XP....and its not taking root/pass, or my user name and pass.....10:15
hyper_chSD-Jason: well, for installation the alternate cd is better... the desktop cd is ok but often there are problems with it10:15
SD-Jasonon one machine -- i went into the manual partitioner and changed the type to ext2 and it installed fine10:16
Whamazoomand I have no way of locating the shared folder on XP from xubuntu10:16
hyper_chWhamazoom: you need to add a user to samba10:16
SD-Jasonthe alternate cd? -- isnt that the 64 bit one?10:16
hyper_chSD-Jason: no, it's not the 64-bit one...10:17
hyper_chSD-Jason: what country are you from?10:18
hyper_chWhamazoom: no queries plz.... adding a(n existing) system user to samba:   sudo smbpasswd -a USER10:18
kanpachianyone please?10:19
kanpachihow do i get rid of the ubuntu boot and replace it with a xubuntu one10:19
Whamazoomhyper_ch: can I add the username that I am currently on?10:19
SD-Jasonusa10:19
SD-Jasonwhy?10:19
hyper_chWhamazoom: yes, you are an existing system user10:20
Whamazoomhyper_ch: ok thanks let me give it a try10:20
hyper_chSD-Jason: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/7.04/release/xubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso10:20
SD-Jasonthanks!10:20
hyper_chhttp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/7.04/release/  --> first comes desktop, then alternate10:20
h3sp4wnsystem users are <= uid of 99910:20
SD-Jasonhave a good one folks10:21
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hyper_chWhamazoom: could be possible that after adding a user to samba that you have to restart the server (I don't think so but I'm not 100% sure)10:22
WhamazoomI cannot seem to restart samba.... i typed in /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart ....nothing10:22
hyper_chhiho h3sp4wn10:22
h3sp4wnmoin10:22
hyper_chWhamazoom: you forgot the "sudo"10:22
hyper_chand its:  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart10:23
hyper_chh3sp4wn: you're not from Switzerland right?10:23
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: no - uk10:23
hyper_chh3sp4wn: ok :) just thought because of the "moin" :) I guess you can't use zattoo then :)10:24
Whamazoomhyper_ch: yes sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart worked :D10:24
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h3sp4wnhyper_ch: I cannot :)10:24
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hyper_chh3sp4wn: too bad :) zattoo was one of the reasons I had windoze running in vbox :) and now they provided linux clients... one for edgy but it works fine in feisty :)10:25
Whamazoomnow is there a way of locating my XP shared folder from xubuntu?10:25
hyper_chWhamazoom: never tried that... I keep sharing from Xubuntu10:25
Whamazoomoh, because I am just trying to xfer a movie between the two.... XP > Xubuntu10:26
hyper_chWhamazoom: share a folder in Xubuntu and use it as transfer folder :)10:26
h3sp4wnWhamazoom: or use winscp10:27
Whamazoomok, yea I also had it set to read only lol duh10:27
hyper_chor rsync10:27
hyper_chor normal ftp10:27
hyper_chor setting up apache and putting it into a webfolder for download :)10:27
h3sp4wnftp must die10:27
Whamazoomwhat is rsync?10:28
hyper_chh3sp4wn: why? ftp is one of the first protocolls :)10:28
hyper_chWhamazoom: rsync is a program that syncs two machines/folders10:28
WhamazoomHmm, I still cannot drop any files onto the Xubuntu shared folder from XP....windows cannot use the linux HDD format right?10:29
hyper_chWhamazoom: I use rsync to create my incremental snapshot backups10:29
hyper_chWhamazoom: if it is shared with samba windows can write to it10:29
hyper_chthat's why you use samba :)10:29
Whamazoom"Network access denied, be sure you have the correct network permissions to perform this operation" ....10:30
kanpachihello, i was using ubuntu and now i installed the xubuntu-desktop package and i wanna get rid of the ubuntu logo at boot and replace it with the xubuntu logo, how do i do it please?10:30
Whamazoomkanpanchi:try going to the splashscreen preferances10:31
hyper_chWhamazoom: here's my little samba config... very simple but it's working:  http://phpfi.com/23282310:32
kanpachisplash screen?10:32
kanpachii mean the ubuntu logo at boot10:32
kanpachinot the splash screen10:32
hyper_chkanpachi: how about a fresh install of xubuntu?10:37
WhamazoomYES! i just had to change "writable" to yes in the [home]  portion of samba  thanks so much hyper_ch10:37
kanpachiwell, i wouldn't mind that10:38
hyper_chWhamazoom: you're welcome10:38
kanpachibut i can't do so atm10:38
kanpachithanx anyways10:38
WhamazoomI installed Ubuntu yesterday....I couldnt take how slow it was, so I just went witha fresh Xubunut10:39
Whamazoomstill slower then XP (booting up) but its free...10:39
hyper_choh well, I don't thinki ubuntu is slow :)10:39
hyper_chI tend to think is quicker than xp10:39
Whamazoomdang, if I boot my XPbox, and this cpu at the same time....Linux will load on average 5mins slower then XP10:39
h3sp4wnI don't think it is (from a fresh xp installation) it is over time though10:39
hyper_chh3sp4wn: as soon as you add antivirus and a firewall on xp it's damn slow to start up10:40
Whamazoombut this laptop (linux) is 256ram, 1.6Ghz brain, and the XP has a 3.2Ghz AMD brain, and +2gbs of 400mhz DDR ram10:40
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: I wouldn't do that10:41
hyper_chh3sp4wn: you wouldn't add antivirus and firewall on xp?10:41
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: never needed to10:41
WhamazoomI dunno, this Xp has got alot going on....lots of programs /games, antivirus, and 2 HDDs serialata10:42
hyper_chWhamazoom: if you can enhance the 256mb ram to a bit more it's really quick :)10:42
WhamazoomI wish I could....im not too familiar with upgrading laptop components...10:42
hyper_chWhamazoom: wanna swap your xp computer with my xubuntu one?10:42
Whamazoomif it was in a box though...thats a whole nother story :D10:42
Whamazoomno way....I got dual 7900GtOC's in SLI, on an MSI mobo with nvidia chipsets10:43
hyper_chwell, I never added ram to a laptop either10:43
Whamazoommy XP box is da bomb! lol10:43
hyper_chSysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 245/897GB, RAM: 993/1010MB, 136 proc's, 22.48h up10:43
hyper_chwitha  nVidia GeForce 2 GTS/Pro card :)10:43
Whamazoom897gb of hardrive space...dang, I only got 220 about10:44
hyper_chwell, there should be more than those 897gb10:44
hyper_chgot a 500gb10:44
hyper_cha 32010:44
hyper_cha 160 and 120 gb one10:44
Whamazoomwho has almost a terrabyte of storage on a PC lol! thats awsome10:44
hyper_chbut the 120 isn't loaded yet... gonna play around with truecypt a bit10:44
Whamazoomtrucrypt = the shiznit! I highly reccommend it10:45
hyper_chso far I use dm-crypt with LUKS10:45
Whamazoomits got a sick hiddern directory option too....its beautiful10:45
hyper_chWhamazoom: what do you need that for?10:45
hyper_chWhamazoom: it just needs to be unhackable.. that's the only thing I care for10:46
WhamazoomI use it to encrypt my USB drives that I take on campus.....just incase10:46
hyper_chWhamazoom: everbody can see that there is an encrypted drive, they just must not be able to decrypt it :)10:46
Whamazoomthey got my resume and crap on there....don't want that info floating around10:46
Whamazoomyes I know10:46
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hyper_chwell, it depends where you live10:46
tuuksihey, how do I add samba-users?10:46
Whamazoombut truecrypt needs a PW for the original directory....then IF they find the hidden directory it requires a seperate pw10:47
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hyper_chwhen you can be ordered by a judge to give out the info then it may be wise to use true crypt with plausible deniability10:47
Whamazoom:D10:47
hyper_chbut over here in Europe a judge can't order you :)10:47
h3sp4wnIn england I believe they can now10:47
Whamazoomwell in America.....thats way different, post 9-11 :(10:47
hyper_chh3sp4wn: that would be against the ECHR10:47
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: there is terrorism stuff that goes against that10:48
hyper_cha violation of art. 6 ECHR10:48
Whamazoomthe FBI can take ANY info they want, without any probable cause....jsut come in here, and rip my Pc's from the wall.....10:48
hyper_chh3sp4wn: nope,not really :)10:48
hyper_chwhere is the code again for adding samba users10:49
hyper_chlphst:  adding a(n existing) system user to samba:   sudo smbpasswd -a USER10:49
Whamazoomsudo smbpasswrd -a USER10:49
hyper_chh3sp4wn: even terrorists are protected by the ECHR10:49
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: 2 years inside for not handing them over10:49
Whamazoomthen : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart10:50
graziehyper_ch: ECHR would be ignored completely by Blair (an ex lawer) and his cronies if they had there way :(10:50
hyper_chthen go and sue the UK in Strasbourg10:50
TheSheep!ot | hyper_ch10:50
ubotuhyper_ch: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:50
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WhamazoomUSA sucks for privacy nowadays...10:51
hyper_chWhamazoom: people should move out of the US :)10:51
WhamazoomPatriot act sucks10:51
Whamazoomalot of my friends are considering it10:51
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/20000023.htm10:52
Whamazoomdepending on how France goes with their new president10:52
TheSheep!ot | Whamazoom10:52
hyper_chCanada is nice :)10:52
ubotuWhamazoom: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:52
WhamazoomI <3 Canada10:52
TheSheepguys, please10:52
hyper_chTheSheep: when none is asking for help there is no need to point that out10:52
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lphstthnx10:52
TheSheephyper_ch: freenode has a policy of not talking about politics10:52
hyper_chTheSheep: then I will be banned sometimes10:53
Whamazoomno matter where you go, Freedom of speech is dead :D j/k dont want to start any trouble10:53
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TheSheepyou can talk all you wnat on the ## channels10:53
WhamazoomI have only been kicked out of ##freebsd .... because I was not 1337 enough to talk to them... can you believe that?!10:54
hyper_chTheSheep: where is that politics policy?10:55
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TheSheep!freenode10:55
ubotufreenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml10:55
Whamazoom2mins remaining on tranfer of Legend of Drunken Master (divx)10:55
h3sp4wn!politics10:55
ubotuPlese take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you!10:55
Whamazoom/jon ##politics10:56
Whamazoomwoops10:56
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hyper_chTheSheep: can't find anything there and neither in the Channel Guidelines10:56
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herzensternhi! how do get read write rights for my hda3 internal partition10:57
h3sp4wnbecome root ?10:57
herzensternas user10:58
hyper_chherzenstern: mount it, then chown/chmod it as root10:58
hyper_chherzenstern: mount it, then chown it to your user10:58
herzensternlike chown -R 777 "/media"/hda310:58
herzensterni did it like that but i still cannot write to it10:59
hyper_chherzenstern: nope, like sudo chown USER:USER /path/to/mounted/partition10:59
TheSheephyper_ch: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic10:59
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lphstokay, I need help. I have to install sata-drive without formatting it (It's already ext3)11:00
lphstis it possible?11:01
h3sp4wnyes11:01
lphsthow11:01
h3sp4wnplug it in an mount it11:02
lphstor if you can point me to some FAQ with answers that's fine too11:02
TheSheep!fstab | lphst11:02
lphstjust add it to fstab?11:02
ubotulphst: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions11:02
h3sp4wnis it external sata ?11:02
Whamazoommake sure you turn your cpu off before you plug it in though11:02
lphstno internal11:02
lphstit's supposed to be plugged11:02
herzensternthis is very complicated11:02
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hyper_chTheSheep: that's about unlawful activites :) and they give examples on that like warez and stuff :) just discussing outside unlawful activies does not fall within that restriction :)11:02
lphstwhere can i see if it's recognised by ubuntu11:02
herzensternwhat does path mean11:03
herzensternand to11:03
h3sp4wnlphst: dmesg | grep sd\[a-z\] 11:04
lphsth3sp4wn: thank you11:04
TheSheephyper_ch: first, you never know when you start being offensive, second, check also the channel guidelines11:04
h3sp4wnlphst: maybe you will notice which manufacturer makes it or so11:04
herzenstern<hyper_ch>  what does path and to mean11:04
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TheSheephyper_ch: and third, read the whole paragraph, not just the first sentence11:04
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WhamazoomIs it possible to remove the 4 desktops...and just have one, like windows?11:05
hyper_chTheSheep: just as it says, guidelines are are guide-lines and not set policy :)11:05
Whamazoomnvm, figured it out11:05
hyper_chTheSheep: the rest of the paragraph doesn't give much either... as discussions are not "invective"11:06
hyper_chbut then, this should be also argued in offtopic11:06
Whamazoom8-)11:07
Whamazoom/who the Sheep11:08
Whamazoomdamn11:08
Whamazoom/who TheSheep11:08
Whamazoomwtf.11:08
Whamazoom/who Whamazoom11:08
Whamazoom/info Whamazoom11:08
Whamazoomgod I suck with IRC commands11:08
hyper_chWhamazoom: TheSheep is all-knowing about xubuntu :) but sometimes hangs a bit too tight to guidelines :)11:09
TheSheepWhamazoom: you're one /who away from a kick11:09
Whamazoomahh its /whois....11:09
Whamazoomkick me then TheSheep11:09
TheSheepplease, are you really soo bored? :(11:10
Whamazoomno but you are lol for causing all this fuss11:10
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hyper_chWhamazoom: no reason for being offending11:11
Whamazoomhyper_ch: oh I see11:13
hyper_chWhamazoom: TheSheep is just doing his job and keep the channel clean... however I am of the opinion that if there is none asking for help and stuff then it can be used also for offtopic stuff... otherwise it would be dead-boring here11:13
Whamazoomhyper_ch: lol very true, a dead IRC is no fun11:14
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TheSheephyper_ch: I'm also tryingto get more people into #xubuntu-offtopic ;)11:14
hyper_chTheSheep: well, there is only a limited amount of channel that can sanely be opened and I have reachd that already11:14
TheSheephyper_ch: LIES11:15
hyper_chI'm in 12 channels11:15
Whamazoomlol11:15
hyper_chon 4 networks11:16
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WhamazoomI have a cpu monitor for xubuntu and every 1 second my cpu spikes to 70-80% cpu usage....I havent seen anything like this before11:17
hyper_chfor me it spikes not that often11:18
TheSheepWhamazoom: check the top to see what is it11:18
hyper_chwhen I switch applicatiosn it spiked up to 100%11:18
hyper_chit spikes for a blink11:18
WhamazoomTheSheep: the top?11:18
TheSheepWhamazoom: open terminal and type 'top'11:19
hyper_ch!top | Whamazoom11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
hyper_chwhat? top is not in the db?11:19
h3sp4wnatop is nice (even nicer if you bother with the kernel patch)11:19
hyper_chh3sp4wn: or htop11:19
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h3sp4wnhyper_ch: not as good as atop11:20
hyper_chwhat can atop do more?11:20
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Whamazoomxfce-4 batter -p is using 7-10% cpu usage every second11:20
Whamazoombattery*11:20
hyper_chh3sp4wn: and you already know apt-file ?11:21
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: yes but what is apt-file to do with it ?11:21
Whamazoomthere we go, the xfce battery monitor was taking a toll on my cpu11:21
TheSheep!bugs | Whamazoom11:21
ubotuWhamazoom: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots11:21
hyper_chh3sp4wn: nothing... just wondering if you know that program11:21
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: tells you which processes are responsible for disk / network load11:21
hyper_chh3sp4wn: hmmm, that's nice11:21
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: apt-file used to be better (now you need -v all the time and the output is more messy)11:23
h3sp4wnit used to give a sensible indication of what it was doing11:23
hyper_chh3sp4wn: are you an equal nerd like TheSheep?11:23
hyper_chh3sp4wn: you know pstree?11:24
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: yes11:24
Whamazoomhmm, no mention of battery monitor using so much cpu% on http://bugs.ubuntu.com/11:24
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: a version of apt-file that worked like dlocate would be good11:24
TheSheepWhamazoom: then add it11:24
WhamazoomTheSheep: I am in the process :D11:24
hyper_chh3sp4wn: what's dlocate?11:25
h3sp4wn!info dlocate11:25
ubotudlocate: fast alternative to dpkg -L and dpkg -S. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.3 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 112 kB11:25
h3sp4wnapt-file is too slow (most of the time I know what I want anyway)11:26
hyper_chI just think if you compile something and it needs a file and you don't know in what library it is then apt-file is great11:27
h3sp4wnmost of the time its in the README or INSTALL or whatever docs11:27
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SD-Jasonhi again folks -- im looking to install some kind of file manager that will let me use sftp -- ive used konqueror in the past on another distro, but i cant seem to find it in synaptic -- can someone point me in the right direction?11:29
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hyper_chSD-Jason: konqueror should be in the normal repos...11:30
hyper_chSD-Jason: however konqueror is KDE/QT based and hence not optimized for Xfce/GTK211:30
hyper_chSD-Jason: however I use it also on my own :)11:30
hyper_chSD-Jason: open a terminal and enter:   sudo aptitude install konqueror11:31
SD-Jasonthanks hyper_ch11:32
Whamazoomalright bug is officially reported :)11:33
SD-Jasonhyper_ch: do you happen to know the status of pidgin in the repos -- its not there - im more wondering when its comming11:35
hyper_chSD-Jason: I don't know what it is11:35
h3sp4wnnew name for gaim (apparantly)11:38
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hyper_chh3sp4wn: no clue... I use kopete11:39
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: I only know because I was helping someone compile it for uclibc earlier11:39
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hyper_chh3sp4wn:  ^^11:40
h3sp4wn!info pidgin gutsy11:40
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty11:40
h3sp4wnSD-Jason: You could try a backport from debian unstable if you wanted11:41
SD-Jasonno thanks11:41
SD-Jasoni'll wait for it to come into the repos11:41
SD-Jason:)11:41
h3sp4wn6 months I guess then11:41
SD-Jasonok - fair enough11:41
h3sp4wnunless it goes into backports (but I don't like using backports they are not well tested)11:42
SD-Jasoni use it in gentoo on another system, but this system is for a non gentoo user11:42
h3sp4wnI still haven't got my xfce looking as good as it did when I was using gentoo + xeffects11:43
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hyper_chh3sp4wn: the only thing I modded on my xfce is adding a background image changer11:48
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h3sp4wnhyper_ch: I have loads of stuff changed on mine (compiled 4.4.1 from sid) added some patches to libxcb and cairo and freetype11:49
h3sp4wnstill not right though11:49
h3sp4wn(but alot better than it was)11:49
hyper_chwhatever that all is :) do you always speak such techno-language? ^^11:50
h3sp4wnwell I know - "moin"11:51
h3sp4wnis that techno language ?11:51
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: Only at work and online11:53
hyper_chh3sp4wn: hehehe :)11:53
hyper_chit's late here in CET11:54
h3sp4wn11pm here11:54
TheSheephyper_ch: I'd say it's getting early :)11:54
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hyper_chh3sp4wn: is your timezone now officially still called GMT or is it now UTC?11:55
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: BST11:55
h3sp4wn(summer so GMT+1)11:55
hyper_chah :)11:56
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hyper_chg'night everyone :)12:04
h3sp4wnnight12:05
Jester45hi12:11
h3sp4wnhi12:12
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superkirbyartistAnyone knows of an open source Java Runtime Environment for Firefox?12:15
Jester45gnash12:15
PumpernickelThat's Flash.12:15
Jester45oo12:15
h3sp4wnIs blackdown opensource ?12:15
Jester45here s\orry12:15
PumpernickelSun Java is open, now, at least mostly.12:15
Jester45yea sun or blackdown12:15
h3sp4wn!java12:16
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre12:16
PumpernickelThere's also the Apache Harmony project, which is getting into RCs now.12:16

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