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| Hobbsee | kiko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/113445 - twitch. and this is why we need to make bug reporting harder. | 12:22 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 113445 in gedit "xxxxx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | darn, he's not here. | 12:22 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: maybe add a simple check that there are more then... lets say 8 characters and make sure they aren't the same letter would help? | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: true. was discussing all this with kiko and various others earlier, at lunch today. i thought he was here, as this kind of bug was the kind i was talking about | 12:26 |
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| beuno | Hobbsee: maybe open up a bug to make this discussion public? | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: i'm filing launchpad bugs now :) | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | just not on tha t:P | 12:30 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: want me to file it? | 12:30 |
| beuno | (btw, nice to meet you :p ) | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: likewise. where are you? :P | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: i'd probably wait, while kiko's thinking about it - there may be discussions on it tomorrow | 12:31 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: Argentina | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | so not in sevilla | 12:32 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: I wish :( couldn't take the time off work | 12:33 |
| beuno | but I am going to debconf this year! | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | yay! | 12:33 |
| beuno | so I might meet some of you there? | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: not me. if you felt like doing something for me though, you could fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/113451 :P | 12:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 113451 in malone "No ability to search bugs by subscriber" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:34 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: I'd love to, but they don't let my hands touch launchpad at all :p | 12:35 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: ahhh.... | 12:35 |
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| beuno | Hobbsee: I wish :D | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: i believe there are positions open :P | 12:36 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: well, I might have to chat a bit with mark in debconf then... :D | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:37 |
| === beuno is excited about his first *big* conference | ||
| Hobbsee | :) | 12:38 |
| beuno | I would of loved to make to Sevilla though, I had to nag some people to represent me on some specs | 12:39 |
| beuno | next one is in Boston, right? | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 12:40 |
| ubotu | New bug: #113451 in malone "No ability to search bugs by subscriber" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113451 | 12:40 |
| beuno | well, if I manage to get a Visa to get into the US, I'll be there! | 12:41 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 12:41 |
| beuno | the US embassy isn't very friendly over here | 12:42 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: where are you located? | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: right now i'm in seville, but usually sydney | 12:44 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: right, that's why I don't see you as much, you're like 12 hours ahead of me | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | beuno: yes. but i keep weird times | 12:46 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: well, great to talk with you, and hope to see some more pics/videos/info on UDS, I'm anxious to read about what's going on :D | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 12:51 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #113465 in launchpad-bazaar "User confused by teams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113465 | 01:55 |
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| beuno | mornin mpt :D | 03:05 |
| beuno | how much do you know about importing packages from Debian? | 03:06 |
| mpt | beuno, I bought a set of Debian CDs once, but I never installed it | 03:10 |
| beuno | mpt: thanks, I keep on thinking you have an answer to almost everything :D | 03:11 |
| mpt | beuno, actually, for that sort of question you'd probably get a much better answer in #ubuntu-motu | 03:12 |
| mpt | (assuming that you're wanting to import said packages in Ubuntu) | 03:13 |
| beuno | mpt: you're right, I'm headed there right now, thanks again! | 03:13 |
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| nictuku | hi | 03:32 |
| nictuku | I'm considering moving my project management to LP | 03:33 |
| nictuku | I should keep at least a site/wiki with download options somewhere else, right? | 03:34 |
| statik | nictuku: LP doesn't currently have filedownloads, but that feature is currently in code review and will be enabled soon | 03:38 |
| nictuku | nice | 03:38 |
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| === Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad 1.0, https://launchpad.net/ | Next user meeting: Wed 16 May, 0800UTC | Next developer meeting: Thu 03 May 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 | ||
| === Topic (#launchpad): set by Kmos at Wed May 2 20:54:23 2007 | ||
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| ubotu | New bug: #113646 in malone "bug reporting flow is not coherent when using apport" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113646 | 06:25 |
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| danilos | carlos: how often do we update the statistics for PO files? (re email on rosetta-users and #112395) | 06:52 |
| carlos | danilos: it's supposed to be done live | 06:54 |
| carlos | when you update the translation | 06:54 |
| carlos | or when a .po file is uploaded | 06:54 |
| carlos | I filed a bug for that problem already | 06:54 |
| danilos | carlos: the bug 112395 is the one filed by andre, why not use that one? | 06:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 112395 in rosetta "Wrong string count on filter "untranslated"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112395 | 06:55 |
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| carlos | danilos: hmm, in fact I didn't file the bug.. I filed another one and I mixed that... | 06:56 |
| carlos | I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/112308 | 06:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 112308 in rosetta "Launchpad says there are errors but doesn't explain where the error is" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] - Assigned to Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv) | 06:56 |
| carlos | and I don't know why, I thought it was for the count problem | 06:57 |
| danilos | carlos: ok, no worries then, just making sure people get responses on rosetta-users | 06:57 |
| danilos | carlos: you confirmed this one for the count problem :) | 06:57 |
| carlos | danilos: that's why I thought I filed it :-P | 06:57 |
| carlos | I know I touched that bug :-) | 06:58 |
| danilos | carlos: you are karma whore :P | 06:59 |
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| pochu | hi there! I have a little question: If a ubuntu source package isn't linked to a launchpad project, can't I link it to a remote tracker? | 07:25 |
| pochu | e.g. I'm trying to link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/easytag/+bug/109364 to a SF bug | 07:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109364 in easytag "[apport] easytag crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 07:25 |
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| matsubara | pochu: the upstream project needs to be registered in LP first. | 07:31 |
| pochu | I was afraid about that :/ | 07:32 |
| pochu | matsubara: ok, thanks | 07:32 |
| matsubara | pochu: feel free to register it and link it to the ubuntu package | 07:32 |
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| ScottK | Someone is going through and subscribing all manner of teams to his loco team. Is that something anyone here can put a stop to? The LP profile of the person doing it has no e-mail address, so I can't contact them directly. | 10:49 |
| ScottK | The loco team in question is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-newmexico | 10:50 |
| beuno | ScottK: I think adding teams to other teams has been (or will be) restricted to Team Administrators, not sure how a case like this is handeld | 10:51 |
| ScottK | At this point I think he's being abusive. | 10:51 |
| ScottK | https://launchpad.net/~jamesbunnell is the person doing it. | 10:52 |
| beuno | ScottK: maybe open up a bug? | 10:52 |
| Rinchen | he's yarddog | 10:52 |
| ScottK | Yes and not on any channel I'm on. | 10:52 |
| pochu | Membership: 1095 (Open Team) | 10:52 |
| pochu | heh :) | 10:52 |
| beuno | ooooh, "Launchpad: ubuntu-loco-enthusiasts is now a member of ubuntu-newmexico", just got that email in my inbox | 10:52 |
| beuno | not good :| | 10:53 |
| SteveA | hi | 10:53 |
| ScottK | Hi | 10:53 |
| SteveA | so, someone's subscribingn teams to a particular team? | 10:53 |
| ScottK | Yes | 10:53 |
| Rinchen | See https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-newmexico/+members | 10:54 |
| salgado | he's yarddog here on freenode | 10:54 |
| SteveA | ok | 10:54 |
| SteveA | I'm now the owner of that team | 10:54 |
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| ScottK | Excellent. | 10:55 |
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| ScottK | SteveA: Are you taking care of unsubscribing all the teams then? I'd offer suggestions about what to do with ~jamesbunnell, but I'm not sure they'd be consistent with the code of conduct, so I'll refrain. | 10:57 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 10:57 |
| BaKKaR | who is here? | 10:57 |
| SteveA | I mailed him privately to ask him to discuss this with me | 10:59 |
| SteveA | before I return ownership of the team to him | 10:59 |
| SteveA | perhaps he just didn't realize it was rude | 10:59 |
| ScottK | Thanks for the quick response. | 10:59 |
| SteveA | I apologise for the inconvenience of this. We'll have a feature in Launchpad soon to prevent people from subscribing teams to a team | 10:59 |
| SteveA | without confirmation | 10:59 |
| SteveA | ScottK: can you tell me what teams should be unsubscribed? | 11:00 |
| === ScottK would guess all of them. | ||
| Rinchen | SteveA, I believe any team that starts with Ubuntu or Contributors on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-newmexico/+members | 11:00 |
| Rinchen | The rest in fact are individuals | 11:01 |
| SteveA | anyone know who michael rimbert is? | 11:01 |
| crimsun | tritium | 11:01 |
| ScottK | Looks like he also subscribed https://launchpad.net/~dennis who I'm sure doesn't live in New Mexico. | 11:01 |
| SteveA | ok, I'm now the only admin of that team | 11:02 |
| SteveA | I'll leave things as they are until I get some explanation | 11:02 |
| Rinchen | ScottK, that's seveas and you're right, he doesn't. :-) | 11:02 |
| ScottK | SteveA: My advice would be to unsub any person or team subscribed today. | 11:02 |
| crimsun | I have a phone conf with tritium (michael rimbert) tonight; if there's something I should bring up, I'm happy to. | 11:03 |
| SteveA | crimsun: please mention that I took control of that team | 11:03 |
| crimsun | ok, will do. | 11:03 |
| SteveA | crimsun: and that I mailed james bunnell to ask for a discussion about it | 11:04 |
| SteveA | I neglected to add a reason in the UI when I removed their administrator privs | 11:04 |
| SteveA | as I was in a rush | 11:04 |
| Rinchen | SteveA, salgado - interesting to note that as an admin of one of those affected teams, I cannot unsub my team. | 11:06 |
| SteveA | Rinchen: that's clearly a bug | 11:07 |
| Rinchen | Permission to file? | 11:08 |
| SteveA | hmm, if I deactivate the memberships, a lot of people will be emailed | 11:09 |
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| ScottK | Yes, but they already got e-mailed once. | 11:09 |
| SteveA | I just tried with the universe contribs | 11:09 |
| SteveA | and the request timed out | 11:09 |
| SteveA | so maybe I'll get stub (the DBA) to unsubscribe with a database hack | 11:09 |
| SteveA | to avoid extra mail | 11:09 |
| ScottK | Maybe the thing to do, if you could, would be a custom unsub mail that explains that the teams were incorrectly subbed, the problems been stopped, and things are being put back, sorry for the interruption... | 11:10 |
| ScottK | Got a weird subscription mail from LP, but am not subbed would just seem an odd state to end up with. | 11:11 |
| SteveA | I see what you're saying. | 11:12 |
| SteveA | mail isn't a reliable transport though | 11:12 |
| ScottK | Yes, so then people go looking through their spam folders for the rest of the story. | 11:12 |
| ScottK | They've already been spammed once, I'd say better to fess up the problem and what's been done about it with a second mail. | 11:13 |
| ScottK | If they got the first one, they'd likely get a second. | 11:13 |
| ScottK | We needn't worry about those that didn't get the first either. | 11:13 |
| Rinchen | Seems we have a bug for removing teams: Bug 110108. I've confirmed it and listed it as high priority. | 11:14 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 110108 in launchpad "Team admin should be able cancel the team membership in another team" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110108 | 11:14 |
| SteveA | thanks for that. I'll think about this tomorrow morning. it's too late here for me to make a good decision. | 11:14 |
| === ScottK predicts that if you just do it quietly, you'll be dealing with LP bug reports on LP generates random team subscription mail. | ||
| ScottK | Up to you of course. | 11:14 |
| ScottK | Good luck figuring it out. It looks like my work here is done. Thanks again SteveA. Good bye. | 11:15 |
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| SteveA | I just recieved a reply from James. He says it's an honest mistake and he didn't realize the consequences. | 11:16 |
| SteveA | He's asked me to remove the teams that were added, apologises for the trouble, and says he wont' do it again. | 11:16 |
| SteveA | I believe that he is sincere, so I'll see to this. | 11:17 |
| SteveA | just to let y'all listing in know what's happening. | 11:17 |
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| beuno | SteveA: maybe this would be a good time to mock up a quick "Launchpad Etiquette" document? | 11:23 |
| Nafallo | Spads: thanks :-) | 11:23 |
| SteveA | beuno: that's a great idea. mrevell can help you with this, if you're interested. | 11:23 |
| Spads | Nafallo: for? | 11:23 |
| Nafallo | Spads: hehe. not you ;-) | 11:24 |
| Nafallo | SteveA: thanks :-) | 11:24 |
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| beuno | SteveA: sure, I'm not sure if I have enough knowledge to get something like that done, but I'll start something and nag mrevell :p | 11:24 |
| Nafallo | Spads: yea. irssi thinks you're cuter! :-) | 11:24 |
| Spads | :D | 11:25 |
| beuno | SteveA: in help.lauchpad.net, right? | 11:25 |
| Rinchen | beuno, should we create one, that is where it would live. | 11:25 |
| Rinchen | we in the general sense :-) | 11:26 |
| Rinchen | I was going to ask you if you were volunteering :-) | 11:26 |
| beuno | Rinchen: I can volunteer to push it forward and add anything I know, but I'm sure there are several of you that would have a much better take on the subject | 11:27 |
| Rinchen | beuno, I think mrevell is the correct place to present an idea. He'll get it to the correct Launchpad decision makers. | 11:28 |
| beuno | Rinchen: great, I'll start by emailing him, thanks :D | 11:29 |
| Rinchen | I would hope that we would rectify any issues with Launchpad as we find them to prevent any etiquette issues from arising thus preventing a need for such a document. Today's mass subscriptions being an example. | 11:30 |
| Rinchen | How's that for a run-on sentence. :-) | 11:31 |
| beuno | right, seems like the best way to go, I'm just thinking this might prevent an issue or two while you get all those loopholes nailed down | 11:32 |
| beuno | but of course, if you think it's an overkill, I won't push it any further, it just occured to me it might useful to have a link to send users to | 11:32 |
| Rinchen | beuno, I think you should email Matt Revell with the idea. | 11:33 |
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| popey | uhm | 11:37 |
| popey | can someone fix some spurious memberships? | 11:37 |
| Rinchen | popey, that should be taken care of as far as the New Mexico issue is concerned. | 11:38 |
| Rinchen | popey, a longer term solution is in the works. | 11:38 |
| popey | ok, ta | 11:39 |
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| tritium | Hi SteveA. I see James was playing around with adding teams to the NM loco. Sorry that happened. | 11:45 |
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