[04:56] <ToHellWithGA> dudes.  does firefox work for yall
[04:57] <ToHellWithGA> wait for it, i'm not done
[04:57] <ToHellWithGA> on sites with java applets
[04:57] <ToHellWithGA> i have firefox and sun-java6-plugin installed but firefox just doesn't wanna use the plugin
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[07:36] <d_> HI all having problems updating ubuntu
[07:37] <d_> problem with libwnck18
[07:38] <d_> hello any one there
[10:57] <Didius> Hi
[10:58] <ToHellWithGA> hi
[10:59] <Didius> i get lots of questions at fairs about the GRUB. Lot's of people want to easy the switch to ubuntu using a dual boot. But they complain that the GRUB is to hard to config.
[10:59] <Didius> Just an idea, but wouldn't an GRUB configurator with a GUI be cool?
[11:00] <ToHellWithGA> Didius: that would be cool
[11:00] <Didius> but?
[11:01] <Didius> i don't think it's on the todo list for gutsy gibbon?
[11:01] <Didius> is there some todo list?
[11:01] <ToHellWithGA> Didius: i think the todos are called "specs" and you could put it on a wish list for gutsy
[11:02] <Didius> aha, a whish-list. Just what I was looking for
[11:02] <ToHellWithGA> ubotu: please tell Didius about spec
[11:02] <Didius> thnx :d
[11:02] <ToHellWithGA> i dunno where the wish list itself is, but mr google may know
[11:03] <Didius> hmm it is on the list...
[11:04] <Didius>  	graphical-grub-config
[11:04] <Didius> what does that exactly mean?
[11:05] <Didius> it even has a wiki page! Wonderfull
[11:07] <ToHellWithGA> wewt :)
[11:35] <Yggdrasil> hmm, i wish it worked
[11:35] <Yggdrasil> hahaha
[11:35] <Yggdrasil> jk
[11:37] <jorgp> Yggdrasil: aren't you a linux distro?
[11:38] <Yggdrasil> indeed,
[11:38] <Yggdrasil> i became self a ware oct 16 2003
[11:38] <jorgp> sweet, good work
[11:39] <Yggdrasil> thank you
[11:39] <Yggdrasil> you will be spared.
[11:41] <jorgp> are you trying to assimilate gutsy or get assimilated by it
[11:42] <Pumpernickel> Assimilation is futile.  You will be resisted.
[11:42] <jorgp> exactly
[11:43] <ToHellWithGA> i'm so amped
[11:43] <ToHellWithGA> i definitely don't want to reset right now
[11:44] <ToHellWithGA> my last dist-upgrade removed pretty much everything GUI-related
[11:44] <ToHellWithGA> in other news, my / has never been so light
[11:44] <jorgp> well, I guess that could be good, in some strange wat
[11:44] <jorgp> way
[11:45] <Yggdrasil> assmutilation is futile
[11:46] <ToHellWithGA> jorgp: i'll get back to my TTY1-6 roots
[11:46] <ToHellWithGA> and i have the framebuffer and gpm so i can use links2 with a mouse
[11:46] <Yggdrasil> hmm
[11:46] <jorgp> ToHellWithGA:  yep
[11:46] <Yggdrasil> hey how can you put a bg picture in your vterminals
[11:47] <Yggdrasil> image even, im seeing grubs got a splash now
[11:47] <jorgp> heh, commandline is the only real man way to go
[11:47] <ToHellWithGA> Yggdrasil: i'd look into the backtrack2 source
[11:47] <ToHellWithGA> they do a lot of that snazzy stuff
[11:47] <Yggdrasil> yea thats what iwas going to suggest
[11:47] <Yggdrasil> mhmm
[11:48] <Yggdrasil> just cuz ive gotten my ttys running at 773
[11:50] <Yggdrasil> and i see grub has a splashscreen, im kinda jealouse
[11:54] <ToHellWithGA> grub has a splash screen?
[11:55] <Yggdrasil> somehow
[11:55] <Yggdrasil> haha
[11:55] <Yggdrasil> ive beat this poor system down so hard i cant tell when anything started
[11:55] <Yggdrasil> but i thought it was from gutsy
[11:56] <jorgp> surely gutsy is not that problematic yet
[11:57] <ToHellWithGA> jorgp: you'd be shocked
[11:57] <ToHellWithGA> i invite you to view my favorite packages, which i cannot get to install simultaneously
[11:57] <Yggdrasil> well its a system that was .
[11:58] <Yggdrasil> somethinb b4 dapper, then dapper then fiesty
[11:58] <Yggdrasil> now gutsy
[11:58] <ToHellWithGA> http://thestonepedo.dyndns.org/files/
[11:58] <ToHellWithGA> Packages.txt and BasePackages.txt
[11:58] <ToHellWithGA> i cannot install them as a set now without an aptitude badness rating of -10,000ish
[11:58] <Yggdrasil> im tyring to figure out how i broke the battery part of my gnome-power-manager
[11:59] <jorgp> ToHellWithGA:  not really, 1 key file with 1 key depend missing could stop the entire distro
[11:59] <ToHellWithGA> jorgp: how about the key file "xubuntu-desktop" :p
[11:59] <ToHellWithGA> i'm telling you, man.  it's kinda breaky right now
[12:00] <jorgp> im sure
[12:00] <ToHellWithGA> the main meta-packages should be installable after the first few alphas though
[12:00] <ToHellWithGA> no worries
[12:00] <jorgp> getting all the packages to work with gcc 4.2 might be a trick
[12:01] <ToHellWithGA> whatever man, it's gonna be a fun ride
[12:01] <ToHellWithGA> i hope to find some good bugs and write some good reports
[12:02] <jorgp> has gnome 2.19.1 got into gutsy yet?
[12:03] <ToHellWithGA> jorgp: how would i check?
[12:03] <ToHellWithGA> is there a gnome --version somewhere?
[12:03] <jorgp> i'm checking
[12:03] <ToHellWithGA> 2.18.1 i see
[12:03] <ToHellWithGA> in System->About GNOME
[12:04] <jorgp> is migrating into gutsy
[12:04] <jorgp> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/gnome/
[12:06] <jorgp> not all packages have been packaged for 2.19 gnome yet
[12:06] <jorgp> yes, gutsy will be a fun ride
[12:09] <Naddiseo> Hello.. anyone know if gutsy will support a EVGA 7900 GT KO?
[12:10] <Yggdrasil> ehm
[12:10] <Yggdrasil> no
[12:11] <Naddiseo> -_-
[12:11] <Yggdrasil> anyone know how to get , battery back on the list for my gnome power manager ?
[12:18] <Skrot-> Are there plans to add support for encrypted partitions during installation with gutsy?