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h3sp4wnPumpernickel: does apache harmony have a 64 bit plugin ?12:31
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cellofellowwould it be possible to get smbfs mounts to appear on the desktop?12:37
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kalikianacellofellow, Why not just make a symlink?12:39
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cellofellowcause I'm using LinNeighborhood, and I'd just like mounted shares to automagically appear on the desktop, with a one-click unmount too.12:40
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cellofellowthere's got to be a way12:40
kalikianaI don't think so. :/12:41
h3sp4wnmaybe you could get ivman to do it12:41
cellofellowmabe12:42
cellofellowmaybe12:42
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Whamazoomwow this samba works great!01:23
Whamazoomonly thing is it takes 20mins to transfer a movie lol01:24
h3sp4wnthrough wireless ?01:30
Howdy125Sounds about right.01:30
Howdy125I just sent a movie from one computer to another here at home using xchat and it took about 15 min.01:31
Whamazoomyea01:31
Whamazoomlaptop is on wifi01:31
h3sp4wnWireless is slow (how big movie ?)01:31
Whamazoom800mbs01:31
Howdy125let me look01:31
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h3sp4wnI can get about 1.4/MB/s through my wireless (need to change my accesspoint when I can be bothered)01:32
blahblahxhey guys01:32
Howdy125697.1 MB01:32
blahblahxwhen i boot up the xubuntu 7.04 livecd ti gives me a blue screen01:32
blahblahxafter loading01:32
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Devohello all01:57
h3sp4wnHello01:59
Devohello01:59
Devodo you know how to mount a new HD in xfce01:59
Devomy old mount command stopped working ( mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/mp3 )02:00
Devoafter i upgraded02:00
h3sp4wnmaybe its changed to sdX02:00
h3sp4wndmesg | less (have a look until you find the drive chances are its sda or sdb or so)02:01
Devook02:01
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blahblahxhi02:03
blahblahxi have a 1.8ghz pc with an ati card and 128mb or RAM02:04
blahblahxafter the loading screen, i get stuck with a blue screen that stays there02:04
blahblahxand i have tried every boot mode ot no sucess02:04
blahblahxcan anyone help me?02:04
Devoit worked02:05
Devonice02:05
blahblahxwhat should i do?02:05
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Devohit alt-f1 at that screen02:06
Devoi think its f102:06
blahblahxthats what i should do?02:06
blahblahxand then what?02:06
Devotry the various F buttons till you see a text screen02:06
Devoit should have an error maybe02:06
Devothen at least you know where it froze02:07
blahblahxok02:10
blahblahxat what point should i do that?02:10
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Devowhen it freezes02:12
Devoyou'll eventually find the text-based bootup screen02:12
Devothe last line is probably what it froze on02:12
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thebillywayneHello.  I attempted to install xubuntu today on my office computer, wihch I'm away from right now.  Why is Xubuntu attempting to load GNOME?02:15
thebillywayneWhen I select verbose mode to see my bootup procedure I see that GNOME is trying to load.  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop actually stops Gnome.02:17
h3sp4wngdm is not gnome02:17
TheSheepthebillywayne: it's not, it's just wrong message02:17
TheSheepthebillywayne: they assumed it will only start/stop gnome02:17
TheSheepthebillywayne: before there was xubuntu02:17
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thebillywayneTheSheep, oh I see.  I've tried reconfigured xorg using different drivers (vesa, i810, i730?) but I always get a "screen not found" error.  How can I go about fixing this?  (Remember I'm not at the computer right now.)  :)02:19
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TheSheepthebillywayne: normally you would just do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'02:23
TheSheepthebillywayne: the default settings suggested should work02:23
TheSheepthebillywayne: you might also need to insrease so called 'graphic aperture' in you bios settings -- that is the amount of RAM your card takes from the computer02:24
thebillywayneTheSheep, yeah 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' didn't work with the default settings.  I'll try your suggestion of increasing the graphic aperture in my BIOS.  Thanks for the tip.  :)02:25
TheSheepthebillywayne: one more: Intel graphic cards suck ;)02:26
TheSheepthebillywayne: at least under Linux02:26
TheSheepalthough I've heard the support for the recent ones is very good02:26
thebillywayneTheSheep, well maybe we can bork it so the company will buy us a new one.  my supervisor was a moron and suggested "hey I can just buy this old dung pile for a couple hundred" not thinking that this dung pile was what we'd have to work with.  Maybe I can find an old nVidia card or something.02:28
TheSheepthebillywayne: if that doesn't help, try saving the x log and the output of lspci02:28
TheSheepthebillywayne: with that info we might be able to do somethng more02:28
thebillywayneTheSheep, I'll do that.02:29
thebillywayneThough Ubuntu loaded and ran fine, though it was too heavy on the poor PIII w/ 256 MB of RAM.02:30
h3sp4wnCannot understand why ubuntu would work fine (they use the same X)02:31
thebillywayneh3sp4wn, me neither, unless it was an install problem.02:31
h3sp4wnthebillywayne: what version did you use ?02:32
thebillywayneh3sp4wn, feisty.02:32
TheSheepthebillywayne: you can just copy the /etc/xorg.conf file over if you still have it02:33
thebillywayneTheSheep, it was wiped when I reformatted to put Xubuntu on.  Haven't really began using the *buntu's on the office computer, as we have a stinking Conexant winmodem and havent' secured a proper dial-up modem yet.02:34
TheSheepthebillywayne: you could, if you still have the ubuntu cd, boot the livecd and copy the xorg.conf file from it to the disk02:35
thebillywayneTheSheep, that's a really good idea.  I'll try that.02:36
thebillywayneTheSheep, I used the alternate to do the install, but I'll give that a shot.02:36
TheSheepthebillywayne: I have to sleep now, but if that doesn't work, bring your logs here and either me or someone else will help you02:37
thebillywayneTheSheep, will do.  thx for your help.  go get some rest.  :)02:37
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atarinoxcan somebody help me change folder priveleges? i need to set a folder to read/write for all groups in the terminal...i think it's 777?02:42
kalikiana_atarinox, Just do 'chmod 777 yourfolder' ;)02:43
atarinoxkalikiana_: thanks02:43
TheSheepatarinox: you can also right-click the folder in thunar and select 'properties' then 'permissions'02:45
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atarinoxhmm....trying to follow this step: In a terminal, type: sudo chown <username>:fuse /media/network02:47
atarinox(Where <username> is your user account logon name)but....keep getting an error that i need another operand02:47
atarinoxnm....i got it02:48
Devoi think i'll start drinking now02:52
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atarinoxdoes anybody know how I can change the function of my third mouse button to scroll? is it something in my xorg.conf?03:09
Jester45 yes03:09
Jester45idk how but its in xorg03:09
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crdlbatarinox:     Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"03:14
crdlbin the mouse section03:14
atarinoxcrdlb: looks like that's included by default03:14
crdlbit is03:15
atarinoxbut my third mouse button won't scroll03:15
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AsauceHowcome ubuntu recognizes my wireless card, but Xubuntu doesn't?03:15
atarinoxinstead it opens links in new tabs, closes tabs, and minimizes windows03:15
atarinoxcrdlb: maybe this is because im on a thinkpad?03:16
crdlboh03:16
crdlbthat's what you mean03:16
crdlbthat's pretty much impossible to set up03:16
crdlbI can remember some ways but they're complicated03:17
atarinoxcrdlb: i remember doing it in edgy pretty easily, just cant remember hte option or value03:17
crdlbhowever you can set up the right side of the touchpad to scroll03:17
atarinoxcrdlb: no touchpad...03:17
crdlboh you have a really old thinkpad03:17
atarinoxyeah i have a T2203:18
crdlbmy t42 has both03:18
deniz_ogu1Hi dear friends. In Xubuntu Feisty, when I drag and drop an item into some other directory it copies it there. How can set it to move the item instead of copying?03:18
Jester45i want a T103:19
h3sp4wnI was happy with my 8mb baseband when I had it (years ago)03:20
crdlbatarinox: you need a package called tp-scroll03:20
crdlbthen you have to change your xorg.conf a bit03:20
hitmanWillydeniz_ogu1: just hold shift while you click/drag03:20
deniz_ogu1hitmanWilly: Thanks but isn't there a way to set it as default as moving without shift+drag?03:21
hitmanWillydeniz_ogu1: probably somewhere, not sure how tho03:22
deniz_ogu1Thanks dear friend.03:22
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atarinoxcrdlb: ok i'll try that if adding Option           EmulateWheel03:23
atarinoxand Option "EmulateWheelButton"   "2"   doesnt work03:23
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Jester45guess what.... i just ate a whole bag of Doritos without using my hands, mouth only :) thats skillz03:42
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scot524stupid question -- what is the best way to handle routine updates, is the there an update notifier like there is in ubuntu or should I just schedule with crontab?04:04
Jester45there is a autoupdater04:09
scot524jester45: in repos?04:09
Jester45you can use cron or synaptic04:09
h3sp4wn!info cron-apt04:11
ubotucron-apt: automatic update of packages using apt-get. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13 (feisty), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB04:11
scot524h3sp4wn: thxs!04:11
Jester45i do like gnomes notifer04:12
Jester45aa04:12
Jester45synaptic -> settings -> repos -> updates04:12
Jester45someone should get a machine and install all the packages04:16
Jester45see what that does, and how long the menus are04:16
h3sp4wnJester45: sudo aptitude install -s \!~i04:17
h3sp4wn(-s makes it simulate)04:17
Jester45i dont wanna do it04:17
scot524Thanks guys!04:17
Jester45plus if its a simulated how would the menus change04:17
h3sp4wnIf you do want to do then remove -s04:18
scot524Jester45: This is a fresh install ... and wouldn't care if I have to reinstall, want me to try it?04:18
h3sp4wn(I was just demonstrating how easy it is)04:18
Jester45sure but... do you have the disc space and bandwidth04:19
Jester45its a lot of packages04:19
scot524Would be kinda cool ... 80gb hdd might not cut it, the bandwidth is pretty good 4mb downstream04:19
Jester4580 isnt good04:20
scot524Yep ... actually enjoying this install anyway -- was perfect!04:20
Jester45!sources.list04:21
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource04:21
Jester45!EasySource04:21
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:21
Jester45my sources.list has 24 lines of debs... time to remake it04:21
Jester45yea 8 lines04:29
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(TheSheep/#xubuntu) scriptdevil: well, it'06:04
(TheSheep/#xubuntu) scriptdevil: it's best to use whatever you're comfortable with06:04
(scriptdevil/#xubuntu) TheSheep: i like how ubuntu attracts windows users to the brighter part of the computing world though :D06:05
(scriptdevil/#xubuntu) anyway..06:05
(scriptdevil/#xubuntu) adios amigo06:05
(TheSheep/#xubuntu) abd: I can't understand what you mean, repeating it won't help, try describing in al ittle more detail.06:05
(TheSheep/#xubuntu) scriptdevil: good luck06:05
(scriptdevil/#xubuntu) abd: is qt installed?06:05
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scriptdevilTheSheep: qmake.. that qt version of make.. he says command not found06:06
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abdsure is installed , but to tell bash where qmake is .....06:06
TheSheepabd: are you following some sort of a tutorial?06:07
abdI edit /etc/environment/ but it still not working06:07
abdyeah ..06:07
TheSheepabd: you need to open new terminal for the /etc/environment to start working06:07
TheSheepabd: link to that tutorial?06:07
abd<TheSheep> but I followed qt instruction (INSTALL FILE)06:08
TheSheepabd: what are you compiling?06:09
abdtest.pro06:09
TheSheepnevermind, let's try a different way06:10
TheSheepabd: is qt3-dev-tools installed?06:10
abdC++ GUI Programming with Qt 406:10
abdBy Jasmin Blanchette, Mark Summerfield06:10
TheSheepah, 406:10
TheSheepis qt4-dev-tools installed?06:10
abdQT_4.2.306:11
TheSheeptry installing the qt3-dev-tools too06:11
abdlike what , I installed qt-x11 opensource from the official site06:11
TheSheepabd: ah, so you intalled your own (non-ubuntu version in some non-standard place?06:12
TheSheepabd: so it installed into /usr/local or /opt ?06:13
abdno I did ti from trolltech site06:13
TheSheepabd: ubuntu provides ready packages with software, prepared for ubuntu06:14
TheSheepabd: maybe you should try with these?06:14
abdno I install it in /home/abd/qt , & while it installing it take place in /usr/local/Trollecth/Qt-4.2.3./06:14
abd& r last ver of Qt ?06:14
TheSheep     4.2.3-0ubuntu3 006:15
TheSheep!info  qt4-dev-tools06:15
ubotuqt4-dev-tools: Qt 4 development tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.3-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 728 kB, installed size 1876 kB06:15
TheSheepabd: looks like pretty recent06:16
abdcan I find the repository in ubuntu site ????06:16
TheSheepabd: http://packages.ubuntu.com, but you can just use the system->synaptic package manager to install the packages06:17
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abdin synaptic , after update I have not the latest ver :(06:18
TheSheepabd: which ubuntu do you use?06:18
abdxubuntu edgy06:19
TheSheepabd: ok, we can try to make your work06:19
TheSheepabd: what did you add to your PATH?06:19
abdPATH=usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin:$PATH  ---> export PATH06:20
abdwhich qt installation creates06:20
TheSheepabd: you need an / before that 'usr'06:20
abd& /home/abd/qt/bin06:20
TheSheep PATH=/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin:$PATH06:20
abdI did but I forget itnow only :)06:21
TheSheepok, what happens when you type 'which qmake' ?06:21
abdroot@abd-desktop:/etc# qmake06:22
abdbash: qmake: command not found06:22
TheSheepabd: try as normal user06:22
abdabd@abd-desktop:/etc$ qmake06:22
abdbash: qmake: command not found06:22
abd:"(06:23
TheSheepls -l /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/qmake06:23
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TheSheepabd: maybe consider upgrading to feisty, it has qt 4.2.3 ready and working out of the box06:25
abdin lebanon we have poor connection , but I install it in uni ....  .06:26
TheSheepabd: what did that last command show?06:26
abdI cant install a package for feisty  on edgy06:26
TheSheepabd: that ls -l06:26
abdbd@abd-desktop:/etc$ ls -l /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/qmake06:27
abdls: /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/qmake: No such file or directory06:27
abdI knew that qmake is not in this path , thus I export the second one06:27
TheSheepaah, with what command?06:28
abdabd@abd-desktop:/etc$ ls -l /home/abd/qt/bin/qmake06:30
abd-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2316096 2007-05-08 03:37 /home/abd/qt/bin/qmake06:30
TheSheepabd: so, when you do 'export PATH=/home/abd/qt/bin:/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin:$PATH', it still doesn't work?06:33
abdyeah ,  & after nano editing06:35
TheSheepabd: what are you editing?06:35
abdmark tht yesterday it worked , only I tried if it's known06:35
abdthe full path06:35
abdthe two pathes06:36
TheSheepabd: I think that for /etc/environment to work, you need to log out and log in back -- but then it will be permanent06:36
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abdI did it right now before going in IRC :P06:37
TheSheepabd: what does that line in your /etc/environment look like exactly? Can you copy and paste here?06:38
abdATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/:/home/abd/qt/bin/"06:39
abdLANG="en_US.UTF-8"06:39
TheSheepabd: I assume it's 'PATH' ;)06:40
TheSheepabd: maybe try without the / at the end :(06:40
abdI did :D06:40
TheSheepabd: what do you get when you type 'echo $PATH' ?06:40
abdroot@abd-desktop:/etc# echo $PATH06:41
abd/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin06:41
TheSheepabd: from normal user :(06:41
abdabd@abd-desktop:/etc$ echo $PATH06:43
abd/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games06:43
abdafter removing / @ end06:43
TheSheepabd: you did relog?06:44
abdI didnt relog ever , before , It close my programs running ???06:45
TheSheepabd: unfortunately yes06:46
abdok06:46
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weswh-will Xubuntu run reasonably on a 400mhz celeron/64 ram? or is it not worth installing?06:48
TheSheepweswh-: a little low ram06:48
TheSheepweswh-: you don't have any way to get more?06:48
TheSheepweswh-: fluxbox or some other minimalistic wm would be better, xfce will run too, but may be a tad slow with all the swapping06:49
weswh-i could...it's just a lot of $ for PC66 SODIMMs these days. heh06:49
weswh-gotcha.06:49
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abd<TheSheep> qmake is know by system but I have another error :D thanks06:54
TheSheepabd: you need to add the lib directories to /etc/ldconf06:55
abdwhy ?06:55
TheSheepabd: becsuse otherwise the system won't be able to find the .so shared libraries you installed06:55
abdediting what ?& logout again ?06:56
TheSheepno, you don't need to log out this time06:57
W8TAHhi folks - someone told me to install a package called qt3 config -- but im not being able to find it in synaptic -- can someone point me in the right direction?06:57
TheSheepabd: just add the paths to lib directories at the end of /etc/ld.so.conf06:57
TheSheep!info qt3-qtconfig | W8TAH06:58
ubotuw8tah: qt3-qtconfig: The Qt3 Configuration Application. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 95 kB, installed size 328 kB06:58
TheSheepabd: then run 'ldconfig'06:58
abddetails abt lib direc06:59
TheSheepabd: /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/lib probably06:59
TheSheepabd: ah, and ldcache needs to be run as root07:00
W8TAHTheSheep, thanks - -I did it through apt-get -- is that correct (im comming from a different distro and trying to get my feet under me still)07:00
TheSheepW8TAH: yes, it's fine07:00
W8TAHcool -- is that stuff not held in synaptic?07:01
TheSheepW8TAH: you can use 'apt-cache search something' to search for something07:01
W8TAHkool07:01
TheSheepW8TAH: it is in synaptic too -- basically, synaptic uses apt-get itself internally07:01
W8TAHok- - cool -- sorry for all the ??? trying to get oriented07:01
TheSheepW8TAH: no need to be sorry, this is a SUPPORT channel07:02
W8TAH:)07:02
W8TAHthat is welcome to hear07:02
W8TAH:)07:02
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abdlook I'm thinkig in installing the package ready from ubuntu ?? but how get the repository ??07:05
TheSheepabd: I think there is only qt3 for edgy, but I may be wrong07:05
abdno I found  qt4 in edgy07:06
abdbut how get the repos07:06
TheSheep!repos07:06
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource07:06
TheSheepabd: basically, you need to have the 'universe' repository enabled07:07
TheSheepabd: then just install the qt4-dev-tools with synaptic07:07
nixternallibqt4-core as well (in main)07:07
TheSheepnixternal: shoudn't the dev-tools depend on it?07:07
nixternalyou would think ;)07:07
TheSheephaha07:07
nixternalya, it all ties together, so if you grab even qt4-designer it will pull in everything you need07:08
TheSheephonestly, one day I will run my own toolkit, just to increase the confusion :)07:08
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TheSheepI will; take a piece from tcl/tk, qt, gtk, gnome-ui, wx, gnustep and swing07:09
TheSheepand depend on them all07:09
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deniz_ogu1Hi dear friends. I'm trying to edit xorg.conf. I'm in the proper directory: /etc/X11. I can see the xorg.conf file there. But I can open it to edit neither with sudo mousepad xorg.conf nor with sudo vi xorg.conf. Why? What should I do. (By the way, I'm using urxvt terminal emulator because of the known issue that the default terminal crashes x. But it seems to function as a terminal as well.)07:14
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: what message are yu getting?07:17
TheSheepyou07:17
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deniz_ogu1TheSheep: For mousepad: It opens a blank page. Warns me that I'm root and I should be careful. But the page is totally white blank.07:18
deniz_ogu1For vi: A blank page opens in terminal. there's only # signs at the beginnig of the lines but there are no actuel lines.07:18
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: try 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'07:18
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: did it show you the right content of that file?07:19
deniz_ogu1TheSheep: yes, with cat it outputs the file. But how to edit it?07:20
hyper_chui, JDK now under GPL 2 :)07:20
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: did you try to scroll that file? maybe ito nly has empty beginning?07:21
deniz_ogu1TheSheep: I did but wil try again. Which one do you advice vi or mousepad. (I miss my lovely gedit!)07:22
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: you can change most settings by doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'07:22
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: well, if you can use vi, then use it, otherwise use whatever you are comfortable with07:23
deniz_ogu1Ok that may solve my problem for now. I'm trying to function my serial mouse! :-)07:23
deniz_ogu1But editing problem is something else. Weird. I've done it in Ubuntu once upon a time. I almost know how to do but can't at the moment.07:24
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TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: try with full path: 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf;07:24
TheSheep'07:25
deniz_ogu1TheSpeep: Is mousepad function in these cases? To edit such files. I want to use the xubuntu defaults at the moment. I don't want to inistall gnome things such as gedit.07:25
deniz_ogu1TheSheep: nano. i didn't try it. ok i will try with nano.07:25
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: you can use mousepad as well, better to use gksu than sudo then07:25
deniz_ogu1is it the same? gksu=? sudo07:26
TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: gksu is more suited for graphical applications07:26
deniz_ogu1TheSheep: Thank you. I took your time.07:27
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TheSheepdeniz_ogu1: I like it :)07:27
kingwalteriisometimes when i click the shut down button in xfce, it logs me out, other times it actually shuts down...any thoughts on why?07:27
TheSheepkingwalterii: it should display a dialog with several buttons constrolling what to do...07:28
kingwalteriiit does07:28
kingwalteriiand i click shut down07:28
TheSheepkingwalterii: that's weird. which version? anything specific in your install?07:29
kingwalteriiit happened in edgy, updated and still happening in feisty07:30
TheSheepkingwalterii: is it totally random?07:30
kingwalteriii havent figured out the pattern07:30
kingwalteriiif there is one07:30
kingwalteriii think it tends to happen when not plugged in07:31
kingwalteriitends to not shut down07:31
TheSheepkingwalterii: it's not this? Bug #4657107:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 46571 in xfce4 "xfce4 doesnt shut down properly" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4657107:33
kingwalteriiit drops to the gui login07:34
kingwalteriiand doesnt shut down07:34
TheSheepkingwalterii: it looks like  something new then07:36
TheSheepkingwalterii: please report a bug07:36
TheSheep!bugs | kingwalterii07:36
ubotukingwalterii: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots07:36
kingwalteriihmm, ok. thanks for the help07:41
TheSheepthnk you for finding a new bug :)07:42
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TheSheepkalikiana: \o/07:42
kalikianahi TheSheep :)07:43
W8TAHhi again folks -- 2 quick questions for ya -- i would like to add a terminal to my right click menu, and how do i add items to the meuns under applications07:46
TheSheepW8TAH: use the menu editor form the settings menu07:53
W8TAHcool07:54
TheSheepW8TAH: it's only good for adding things though -- all the other ones are included from the autogenerated menus07:54
W8TAHis it possible to get things into the categories -- for example - -i just added kino, and id like that to be in the mulitmedia menu07:55
W8TAHooops07:55
W8TAHnever mind07:55
W8TAHi goofed07:55
TheSheepjust make such a menu and put the icon there07:56
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deniz_ogutTheSheep: Instead of sudo, gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf worked for me and I managed to edit the file and I can use my serial mouse at the moment. Thanks again. (But I still have a feeling that there's something weird with all these terminal-editor relations. In usuntu this was not the case as far as I can remember. I7m not sure to start a discussion in somewhere such as launcpad bugzilla or not. If you say that everything is normal; a relatively n08:32
TheSheepdeniz_ogut: well, I don't know where to start checking things in your case08:34
TheSheepdeniz_ogut: glad to hear you managed to work around it somehow08:34
deniz_ogutmaybe my hardware (a low end machine) but configurations are the defaults.08:35
deniz_ogutthank you again. :-)08:35
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q-tHey I downloaded xubuntu, and it was a rar file, not iso. I am to just extract the rar file and burn what is in it onto a disk?? like a data cd/dvd or do I have to make it an ISO or something??08:50
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W8TAHhow do i "un-modprobe" a module08:56
Mercheloremmod?08:57
W8TAHthanks08:57
hyper_chmodeprobe -r08:57
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crdlbit's rmmod and modprobe -r lol08:59
crdlbbut I think modprobe -r is better09:00
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hyper_chcrdlb: dunno... I just man'ed modprobe and it stated modprobe -r09:06
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shawn34Does anyone know of a Dreamcast emulator for linux?09:22
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hyper_chwhat's dreamcast?09:48
h3sp4wnsega games console09:49
h3sp4wnmore interesting would be if someone knows how to build a dreamcast ethernet adapter09:49
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abdwhile installing using apt-get --> failed , so which command can continue installing ?09:57
Merchelotry using aptitude instead, or synaptic09:58
h3sp4wnabd: is this during installation ?09:58
hyper_chabd: what error message?09:59
abdusing apt-get09:59
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h3sp4wnyou are not being clear09:59
abd http://lb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libqt4-dev 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 [4186kB] 10:00
abdFetched 24.5MB in 1h43m14s (3950B/s)10:01
abdFailed to fetch http://lb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15-dev_5.0.24a-9ubuntu2_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 10:01
abdE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?10:01
abdthe connection is slow in lebanon , it failed to download it , i need to continue not restart , how10:02
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cjae_hello10:15
cjae_anyone else have problems with deluge crashing on exit?10:16
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cjae_is deluge written in python10:17
cjae_using 7.04 and python keeps using 101% cpu10:18
cjae_not to be rude but is anyone awake here?10:20
BFTDnope10:21
cjae_BFTD, is that to me?10:23
BFTDI think so, I was asleep so I missed something10:23
BFTDI heard about the 101% thing, is it while the program is running, using python?10:24
cjae_May I ask my questions here?10:24
q-tI`ve installed xubuntu on a laptop, but the wireless network card isnt working...where can I get the drivers?10:24
BFTDmost certainly10:25
cjae_BFTD, I assume it runs on python cause when I try to close it the app freezes and my process shows 101% cpu usage10:26
BFTDwhat kind of card is it? run "lspci" in terminal10:26
q-tBFTD: me?10:27
BFTDq-t yes10:27
q-tBFTD: I`ll check. I have to restart...brb10:27
cjae_so I kill it and all seems to be well I don't know if something else is causing the problem? like another app10:28
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cjae_BFTD, are u there?10:30
BFTDyes10:30
BFTDwhat version of python?10:31
Merchelo~wifi10:33
Merchelo!wifi | q-t10:33
ubotuq-t: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:33
q-tBFTD: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)10:33
cjae_BFTD, ython gtk2 2.10.410:33
cjae_sorry python10:34
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W8TAHhi folks -10:34
W8TAHim working through the following howto as per the wiki10:34
W8TAHhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517410:34
W8TAHto install my broadcom wireless card10:34
W8TAHim down to were it had me instal the wireless-manager-gnome -- how do i get that to show up in xfc?10:34
q-tIt suddenly worked:P haha10:35
q-twell, all hail ubuntu:D10:35
cjae_BFTD, it xubuntu 7.04 with all updates installed10:36
j1mcW8TAH: try typing "nm-applet" from the command line.10:36
j1mcW8TAH: don't use the quotes, though.  :)10:37
W8TAHok10:38
W8TAHAHHHH10:38
W8TAHkool10:38
hyper_chBFTD: is it more efficient to have multiple swap partitions among different drives or have one large swap?10:39
cjae_BFTD, I think I had to install something before I enabled the repositories and used the disc to install python via apt-get and then I got updated a few days ago10:39
BFTDgbet python 2.510:40
cjae_BFTD,  what?10:42
BFTDsudo aptitude install python 2.510:42
BFTD!python 2.510:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python 2.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
BFTD!info python 2.510:43
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB10:43
j1mcW8TAH: =)  it works really well in xubuntu.  if you close your terminal, nm-applet will also appear to close, but will appear the next time you reboot.10:43
cjae_BFTD, why is my system not updating to this?10:44
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cjae_!info python 2.510:44
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB10:44
BFTDcjae_ you want to keep python 2.4 because a lot of programs need it10:44
BFTDthat's why it won't update it10:45
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cjae_BFTD, so will 2.5 break them or will it install beside it?10:45
cjae_BFTD, how do I tell what version of python I have?10:47
cjae_btw this was a fresh install of feisty10:48
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crimsuncjae_: readlink /usr/bin/python10:49
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cjae_Couldn't find package "2.5", and more than 4010:52
cjae_readlink /usr/bin/python10:52
crimsunhmm?10:52
cjae_python2.510:52
crimsunyes, that's python 2.5.  It's the default version in feisty.10:53
crimsunwhat are you looking for anyhow?10:53
cjae_look like that is what it was already10:53
cjae_keeps maxing out cpu10:53
cjae_I try to close deluge and it freezes and I check process manager and python is at 101% or higher10:54
Jester45my xorg was 121 before... xfce cpu plugin said other wise10:55
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cjae_as soon as I kill it deluge closes and system runs fine10:56
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|Slurpee|So I am trying to install xubuntu 7.04 on an old compaq prosignia desktop.10:56
|Slurpee|i can get to the xubuntu boot screen but once I select any opions I recieve "loading isolinux: disk error 58, AX = 4288, drive 9f"10:57
hyper_chJester45: is it more efficient to have multiple swap partitions among different drives or have one large swap?10:57
cjae_crimsun, hello10:57
|Slurpee|then I only have option "I/O error, error reading boot cd." "reboot?"10:57
|Slurpee|i tried new cd-r media.  i can boot into other livecds such as knoppix.  i currently have debian installed on the desktop's hard drive using grub.10:59
|Slurpee|any ideas ?10:59
scurtried the cd on another machine?11:00
|Slurpee|yes11:00
Jester45hyper_ch: umm, idk for linux becuase its smarter but in windows one swap on the fastest drive, becuase windows only uses one swap and will pick the fastest but the others are wasted11:00
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|Slurpee|i also drive 2 other cd-rom drives11:00
crimsuncjae_: yes?11:00
hyper_chJester45: idk?11:01
scurdrive? so you've got 3 cdroms in the machine?11:01
Jester45hyper_ch: i would say for linux to use 1 swap also11:01
Jester45hyper_ch: i dont know a.k.a. idk11:01
ciro314my Applications >> System >> Network >> hosts. is empty what should i do?11:01
|Slurpee|i swapped out the cd-rom drives11:01
hyper_chJester45: ah :) well, I was thinking if you have swap on different drives and you read something from one drive... then the computer could still write to the swap partitions on the other drives... so I thought it might be more efficient11:02
Jester45hyper_ch: can you copy files faster across  one drive or two at the same time11:02
Jester45hyper_ch: ok, how are your drives layed out, the partitions11:02
cjae_crimsun, did you see my problem11:02
hyper_chJester45: so far one big swap partition11:02
Jester45hyper_ch: if one drive is for system and the other is for /home then put the swap on the /home drive because that should be less active11:03
hyper_chJester45: http://phpfi.com/23308711:03
hyper_chroot and home are on the same drive.. as is SWAP11:03
scur|Slurpee|, you've done everything i'd try (but I'm not an expert) :) you could always try netinstalling from debian (i've not done that with ubuntu though, only debian a few years back)11:04
crimsuncjae_: no, I'm fairly busy ATM.  I'll read backscrool ASAP.11:04
crimsunbackscroll, even11:04
crimsuncjae_: are you using the newest version of deluge (not in the official Ubuntu repository)?11:05
cjae_I installed with apt-get11:05
hyper_ch|Slurpee|: did you also try the alternate install cd?11:05
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crimsuncjae_: that's the old version that has known issues.11:06
crimsuncjae_: I recommend that you purge that package and use the version distributed on its web site.11:06
cjae_crimsun, where do you suggest I dl it from?11:06
crimsuncjae_: from the web site of deluge-torrent.11:06
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|Slurpee|hyper what do u mean by alternate11:07
|Slurpee|i am able to boot into knoppix livecd with no problems.  if that is what you mean.11:08
blahblahxi have a ibm thinkpad with a 1.8ghz processor and 128mb or RAM and an ati card11:08
cjae_crimsun, I believe I installed that one before I did the fresh install11:08
blahblahxand when i boot into xubuntu 7.04 it gives me a blue screen after loading11:08
blahblahxwith a cursor11:08
blahblahxi have tried every mode11:08
blahblahxand it still happens11:09
cjae_crimsun, and it would not even cache the dl's maybe it was not the offical site11:09
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blahblahxdoes anyone have a solution for me?11:09
hyper_ch|Slurpee|: you are trying to install ubuntu feisty, right?11:10
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|Slurpee|xubuntu, yes11:10
|Slurpee|i ran it on other machines no problem11:10
|Slurpee|just this compaq is being werid11:11
hyper_chwell, the installation is normally better from the alternate cd... not from the desktop one11:11
|Slurpee|how is it normally better?11:11
|Slurpee|why doesnt everyone just used the alternate cd ?11:11
cjae_alternate cd is way better11:11
blahblahxhow about me :(11:11
hyper_ch|Slurpee|: it's less prone to failure11:11
blahblahxwait is there an xubuntu alternate cd11:11
blahblahxor just an ubuntu one11:11
hyper_chblahblahx: what did you do?11:12
hyper_chthere are alternate cds to ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu11:12
blahblahxwhere can i get them11:12
hyper_chas well as desktop ones11:12
blahblahxlink please for the xubuntu one11:12
hyper_chblahblahx: from the same place you got the desktop one... just scroll a bit further down until yuo see "Alternate"11:12
blahblahxoh my problem is this: i have a ibm thinkpad with a 1.8ghz processor and 128mb or RAM and an ati card and when i boot into xubuntu 7.04 it gives me a blue screen after loading11:13
blahblahxand ive tried every mode11:13
hyper_chblahblahx: have you installed feisty already?11:14
blahblahxno11:14
cjae_http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/xubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso11:14
blahblahxoff the livecd11:14
ciro314hello. could anybody help me, please? Applications >> System >> Network >> hosts. is empty what should i do?11:14
|Slurpee|cjae, any faster servers ? ;/11:15
hyper_chblahblahx: well, ATI is always troublesome... if you are sure you want to install xubuntu feisty, download the alternate install ced11:15
blahblahxok11:15
hyper_ch|Slurpee|: got bittorrent?11:15
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cjae_does anyone have the address for the official deluge p2p client11:15
hyper_ch|Slurpee|: or what country are you from?11:16
q-they, doesnt openoffice work in xfce??11:16
hyper_chq-t: sure it works11:16
ciro314cjae_: i prefer transmission bittorrent client. its tiny too11:16
q-tits all screwy at the toolbar when i start it11:16
hyper_chhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/alternate/11:16
q-tdoesnt look like it works...11:16
blahblahxyeah transmission is the best11:16
hyper_chq-t: it works for me11:16
cjae_|Slurpee|, sorry don't know what I used11:17
q-thmmm11:17
hyper_chq-t: what does not work?11:17
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q-thyper_ch: the graphics all screwy at the top of the window....11:17
cjae_|Slurpee|, for some reason the color doesnt change when you send to me11:17
hyper_chq-t: you mean you have no buttons and only plain-text?11:18
|Slurpee|usa11:19
cjae_does anyone have the address for the official deluge p2p client11:19
TheSheepq-t: there was someone with identical problem already11:19
hyper_ch|Slurpee|: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/7.04/release/xubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso11:19
TheSheepq-t: she was using an intel graphics card11:19
crimsuncjae_: did you seriously just want to be lazy?  http://deluge-torrent.org/11:20
hyper_chTheSheep: well the problem I had with re-isntall was that no theme-pack was auto-installed... but I don't know if q-t has the same issue11:20
crimsunthat's literally a two-second Google search.11:20
cjae_crimsun, sorry I was just typing it wrong11:20
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q-tTheSheep: Ok, I think thats whats my problem11:21
cjae_crimsun, got jumped night before last and kicked in the head a lot so my motor skills (typing) and vision are not to great11:22
q-tTheSheep: I was told that the graphics card on the laptop im using is ATI, but it seems like its Intel11:23
q-tTheSheep: Is there a solution?11:23
cliebowcjae_, you ok?11:24
cjae_sort of just asking for a liitle patients11:25
cjae_opps little11:25
TheSheepq-t: I think that reducing the color depth helped temporarily in that particular case, although it's a hrdly an acceptable solution11:25
godless!info beryl-plugins-unsupported11:26
ubotuberyl-plugins-unsupported: Collection of extra plugins for Beryl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 248 kB11:26
cjae_hospital released so should be11:26
q-tTheSheep: I`ll see what I can do. I have to take care of something else right now11:26
godlesshow do I find the contents of that package?11:26
q-tthnx for the help ;)11:26
cliebowcjae_, where  was this?11:26
cjae_crimsun, I think this is the one I dl'ed before and would not cache dl's and various other things11:27
cjae_cliebow, in my driveway11:27
cliebowin philly?11:28
cjae_way up in Canada11:28
cliebowgood grief...11:28
cjae_yeah guy thought I stole his motor bike or something but I think they found out who really did it11:29
cjae_thanks for asking though11:30
cjae_the guy apparently has a record of this type of thing11:30
cliebowi live in Maine..havcnt locked the door for years..some sort of morbid curiousity..11:30
cjae_It happened in a town off 700 ppl and I never have locked my door before now either11:31
hyper_chwhat's the default gnome irc client?11:31
cjae_sorry "of"11:31
cliebowleft my camp for four months..when  i got back i knew someone had been in..cause there was a gallon of new milk oj and a dozen eggs put in the fridge that day11:32
cjae_guess that further proves the whole assuming thing11:33
cjae_cliebow, At least u got something from it11:34
cliebowsomeone'd gathered i was coming home anad picked me upo a few things..island living you see11:35
cjae_cliebow, very strange though11:35
cliebowwell..ive only had xubuntu a couple days..but if i can help ..holler11:36
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cjae_anyone else here had luck with http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubuntu/feisty/11:36
cjae_cliebow, thanks11:37
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nopcodehey12:09
nopcodei've tried to follow the installation isntructions for the nvidia driver12:09
nopcodebut now X doesnt come up at boot12:09
nopcodeit says "failed to load module nvidia"12:09
nopcodeand "modprobe nvidia" says "error running install command for nvidia"12:09
hyper_chnopcode: what nvidia card, what os, what instructions?12:12
nopcode880012:12
nopcodei found them on some page, dunno12:13
nopcodesome wiki12:13
hyper_chand what os?12:13
nopcodeuh, xubuntu12:13
nopcodewith the 2.6.22 kernel12:14
hyper_chso it's feisty12:14
nopcodeno actually i installed the previous version12:14
nopcodebut i installed the kernel package from feisty12:14
nopcodeto try and fix a network card issue12:14
hyper_chwhy not upgrade?12:14
nopcodehow?12:14
hyper_ch!upgrade12:14
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:14
nopcodeso i should browse that with lynx now?12:15
nopcodehmm my sources.list has "feisty" all over the place12:15
nopcodeand i did a dist-upgrade but it didnt download much12:15
Pumpernickel`cat /etc/issue` will show what release you're on.12:15
nopcode"ubuntu 7.04"12:15
nopcodewould that be feisty?12:16
PumpernickelYeah.12:16
nopcodeoh, ok sorry then12:16
hyper_chDo you have:  Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager?12:16
nopcodehyper_ch: i dont have X at the moment12:16
PumpernickelThe kernel you have is the one slated to be in Gutsy.12:16
nopcodePumpernickel: ah right gutsy was the new version - i confused them12:16
Pumpernickel(Whcih is horribly unstable at the moment.)12:16
nopcodehyper_ch: but i followed the instructions about disabling the "nv" module12:16
nopcodehyper_ch: if thats what you're referring to12:16
nopcodePumpernickel: so should i remove the 2.6.22 kernel as well?12:17
hyper_chnopcode: you should be able to install from a gui... you shouldn't need to follow any wiki12:17
nopcodei mean, it didnt solve my issues anyways12:17
nopcodehyper_ch: i thought installing the nvidia driver always needed manual work..12:17
hyper_chnot in feisty anymore12:17
nopcodeok so... is the 2.6.22 kernel from gutsy the source of my problem?12:18
nopcodeit probably didnt get the proper modules for that?12:18
hyper_chnopcode: dunno... I don't play with out-of-release kernels12:18
nopcodeok so i'll uninstall that12:18
nopcodebrb12:18
nopcodedidnt work..12:19
hyper_chnopcode: you removed the gutsy kernel and rebooted?12:19
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nopcodehyper_ch: no12:20
nopcodeapt-get didnt remove the kenrnel12:20
nopcode"pre-removal script returned error status 9"12:20
nopcodeit says something about "error setting debconf flags..."12:20
hyper_chnopcode: well boot into the old kernel12:20
hyper_chthen you should be able to remove the gutsy one12:21
nopcodeok12:21
hyper_chSysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 248/897GB, RAM: 996/1010MB, 137 proc's, 5.47h up12:21
hyper_ch.20-15 is the current one12:21

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