[12:31] <h3sp4wn> Pumpernickel: does apache harmony have a 64 bit plugin ?
[12:37] <cellofellow> would it be possible to get smbfs mounts to appear on the desktop?
[12:39] <kalikiana> cellofellow, Why not just make a symlink?
[12:40] <cellofellow> cause I'm using LinNeighborhood, and I'd just like mounted shares to automagically appear on the desktop, with a one-click unmount too.
[12:40] <cellofellow> there's got to be a way
[12:41] <kalikiana> I don't think so. :/
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> maybe you could get ivman to do it
[12:42] <cellofellow> mabe
[12:42] <cellofellow> maybe
[01:23] <Whamazoom> wow this samba works great!
[01:24] <Whamazoom> only thing is it takes 20mins to transfer a movie lol
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> through wireless ?
[01:30] <Howdy125> Sounds about right.
[01:31] <Howdy125> I just sent a movie from one computer to another here at home using xchat and it took about 15 min.
[01:31] <Whamazoom> yea
[01:31] <Whamazoom> laptop is on wifi
[01:31] <h3sp4wn> Wireless is slow (how big movie ?)
[01:31] <Whamazoom> 800mbs
[01:31] <Howdy125> let me look
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> I can get about 1.4/MB/s through my wireless (need to change my accesspoint when I can be bothered)
[01:32] <blahblahx> hey guys
[01:32] <Howdy125> 697.1 MB
[01:32] <blahblahx> when i boot up the xubuntu 7.04 livecd ti gives me a blue screen
[01:32] <blahblahx> after loading
[01:57] <Devo> hello all
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> Hello
[01:59] <Devo> hello
[01:59] <Devo> do you know how to mount a new HD in xfce
[02:00] <Devo> my old mount command stopped working ( mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/mp3 )
[02:00] <Devo> after i upgraded
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> maybe its changed to sdX
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> dmesg | less (have a look until you find the drive chances are its sda or sdb or so)
[02:01] <Devo> ok
[02:03] <blahblahx> hi
[02:04] <blahblahx> i have a 1.8ghz pc with an ati card and 128mb or RAM
[02:04] <blahblahx> after the loading screen, i get stuck with a blue screen that stays there
[02:04] <blahblahx> and i have tried every boot mode ot no sucess
[02:04] <blahblahx> can anyone help me?
[02:05] <Devo> it worked
[02:05] <Devo> nice
[02:05] <blahblahx> what should i do?
[02:06] <Devo> hit alt-f1 at that screen
[02:06] <Devo> i think its f1
[02:06] <blahblahx> thats what i should do?
[02:06] <blahblahx> and then what?
[02:06] <Devo> try the various F buttons till you see a text screen
[02:06] <Devo> it should have an error maybe
[02:07] <Devo> then at least you know where it froze
[02:10] <blahblahx> ok
[02:10] <blahblahx> at what point should i do that?
[02:12] <Devo> when it freezes
[02:12] <Devo> you'll eventually find the text-based bootup screen
[02:12] <Devo> the last line is probably what it froze on
[02:15] <thebillywayne> Hello.  I attempted to install xubuntu today on my office computer, wihch I'm away from right now.  Why is Xubuntu attempting to load GNOME?
[02:17] <thebillywayne> When I select verbose mode to see my bootup procedure I see that GNOME is trying to load.  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop actually stops Gnome.
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> gdm is not gnome
[02:17] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: it's not, it's just wrong message
[02:17] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: they assumed it will only start/stop gnome
[02:17] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: before there was xubuntu
[02:19] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, oh I see.  I've tried reconfigured xorg using different drivers (vesa, i810, i730?) but I always get a "screen not found" error.  How can I go about fixing this?  (Remember I'm not at the computer right now.)  :)
[02:23] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: normally you would just do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:23] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: the default settings suggested should work
[02:24] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: you might also need to insrease so called 'graphic aperture' in you bios settings -- that is the amount of RAM your card takes from the computer
[02:25] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, yeah 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' didn't work with the default settings.  I'll try your suggestion of increasing the graphic aperture in my BIOS.  Thanks for the tip.  :)
[02:26] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: one more: Intel graphic cards suck ;)
[02:26] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: at least under Linux
[02:26] <TheSheep> although I've heard the support for the recent ones is very good
[02:28] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, well maybe we can bork it so the company will buy us a new one.  my supervisor was a moron and suggested "hey I can just buy this old dung pile for a couple hundred" not thinking that this dung pile was what we'd have to work with.  Maybe I can find an old nVidia card or something.
[02:28] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: if that doesn't help, try saving the x log and the output of lspci
[02:28] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: with that info we might be able to do somethng more
[02:29] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, I'll do that.
[02:30] <thebillywayne> Though Ubuntu loaded and ran fine, though it was too heavy on the poor PIII w/ 256 MB of RAM.
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> Cannot understand why ubuntu would work fine (they use the same X)
[02:31] <thebillywayne> h3sp4wn, me neither, unless it was an install problem.
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> thebillywayne: what version did you use ?
[02:32] <thebillywayne> h3sp4wn, feisty.
[02:33] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: you can just copy the /etc/xorg.conf file over if you still have it
[02:34] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, it was wiped when I reformatted to put Xubuntu on.  Haven't really began using the *buntu's on the office computer, as we have a stinking Conexant winmodem and havent' secured a proper dial-up modem yet.
[02:35] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: you could, if you still have the ubuntu cd, boot the livecd and copy the xorg.conf file from it to the disk
[02:36] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, that's a really good idea.  I'll try that.
[02:36] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, I used the alternate to do the install, but I'll give that a shot.
[02:37] <TheSheep> thebillywayne: I have to sleep now, but if that doesn't work, bring your logs here and either me or someone else will help you
[02:37] <thebillywayne> TheSheep, will do.  thx for your help.  go get some rest.  :)
[02:42] <atarinox> can somebody help me change folder priveleges? i need to set a folder to read/write for all groups in the terminal...i think it's 777?
[02:43] <kalikiana_> atarinox, Just do 'chmod 777 yourfolder' ;)
[02:43] <atarinox> kalikiana_: thanks
[02:45] <TheSheep> atarinox: you can also right-click the folder in thunar and select 'properties' then 'permissions'
[02:47] <atarinox> hmm....trying to follow this step: In a terminal, type: sudo chown <username>:fuse /media/network
[02:47] <atarinox> (Where <username> is your user account logon name)but....keep getting an error that i need another operand
[02:48] <atarinox> nm....i got it
[02:52] <Devo> i think i'll start drinking now
[03:09] <atarinox> does anybody know how I can change the function of my third mouse button to scroll? is it something in my xorg.conf?
[03:09] <Jester45>  yes
[03:09] <Jester45> idk how but its in xorg
[03:14] <crdlb> atarinox:     Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[03:14] <crdlb> in the mouse section
[03:14] <atarinox> crdlb: looks like that's included by default
[03:15] <crdlb> it is
[03:15] <atarinox> but my third mouse button won't scroll
[03:15] <Asauce> Howcome ubuntu recognizes my wireless card, but Xubuntu doesn't?
[03:15] <atarinox> instead it opens links in new tabs, closes tabs, and minimizes windows
[03:16] <atarinox> crdlb: maybe this is because im on a thinkpad?
[03:16] <crdlb> oh
[03:16] <crdlb> that's what you mean
[03:16] <crdlb> that's pretty much impossible to set up
[03:17] <crdlb> I can remember some ways but they're complicated
[03:17] <atarinox> crdlb: i remember doing it in edgy pretty easily, just cant remember hte option or value
[03:17] <crdlb> however you can set up the right side of the touchpad to scroll
[03:17] <atarinox> crdlb: no touchpad...
[03:17] <crdlb> oh you have a really old thinkpad
[03:18] <atarinox> yeah i have a T22
[03:18] <crdlb> my t42 has both
[03:18] <deniz_ogu1> Hi dear friends. In Xubuntu Feisty, when I drag and drop an item into some other directory it copies it there. How can set it to move the item instead of copying?
[03:19] <Jester45> i want a T1
[03:20] <h3sp4wn> I was happy with my 8mb baseband when I had it (years ago)
[03:20] <crdlb> atarinox: you need a package called tp-scroll
[03:20] <crdlb> then you have to change your xorg.conf a bit
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> deniz_ogu1: just hold shift while you click/drag
[03:21] <deniz_ogu1> hitmanWilly: Thanks but isn't there a way to set it as default as moving without shift+drag?
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> deniz_ogu1: probably somewhere, not sure how tho
[03:22] <deniz_ogu1> Thanks dear friend.
[03:23] <atarinox> crdlb: ok i'll try that if adding Option           EmulateWheel
[03:23] <atarinox> and Option "EmulateWheelButton"   "2"   doesnt work
[03:42] <Jester45> guess what.... i just ate a whole bag of Doritos without using my hands, mouth only :) thats skillz
[04:04] <scot524> stupid question -- what is the best way to handle routine updates, is the there an update notifier like there is in ubuntu or should I just schedule with crontab?
[04:09] <Jester45> there is a autoupdater
[04:09] <scot524> jester45: in repos?
[04:09] <Jester45> you can use cron or synaptic
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> !info cron-apt
[04:11] <ubotu> cron-apt: automatic update of packages using apt-get. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13 (feisty), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB
[04:11] <scot524> h3sp4wn: thxs!
[04:12] <Jester45> i do like gnomes notifer
[04:12] <Jester45> aa
[04:12] <Jester45> synaptic -> settings -> repos -> updates
[04:16] <Jester45> someone should get a machine and install all the packages
[04:16] <Jester45> see what that does, and how long the menus are
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> Jester45: sudo aptitude install -s \!~i
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> (-s makes it simulate)
[04:17] <Jester45> i dont wanna do it
[04:17] <scot524> Thanks guys!
[04:17] <Jester45> plus if its a simulated how would the menus change
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> If you do want to do then remove -s
[04:18] <scot524> Jester45: This is a fresh install ... and wouldn't care if I have to reinstall, want me to try it?
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> (I was just demonstrating how easy it is)
[04:19] <Jester45> sure but... do you have the disc space and bandwidth
[04:19] <Jester45> its a lot of packages
[04:19] <scot524> Would be kinda cool ... 80gb hdd might not cut it, the bandwidth is pretty good 4mb downstream
[04:20] <Jester45> 80 isnt good
[04:20] <scot524> Yep ... actually enjoying this install anyway -- was perfect!
[04:21] <Jester45> !sources.list
[04:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:21] <Jester45> !EasySource
[04:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:21] <Jester45> my sources.list has 24 lines of debs... time to remake it
[04:29] <Jester45> yea 8 lines
[06:04] (TheSheep/#xubuntu) scriptdevil: well, it'
[06:04] (TheSheep/#xubuntu) scriptdevil: it's best to use whatever you're comfortable with
[06:05] (scriptdevil/#xubuntu) TheSheep: i like how ubuntu attracts windows users to the brighter part of the computing world though :D
[06:05] (scriptdevil/#xubuntu) anyway..
[06:05] (scriptdevil/#xubuntu) adios amigo
[06:05] (TheSheep/#xubuntu) abd: I can't understand what you mean, repeating it won't help, try describing in al ittle more detail.
[06:05] (TheSheep/#xubuntu) scriptdevil: good luck
[06:05] (scriptdevil/#xubuntu) abd: is qt installed?
[06:06] <scriptdevil> TheSheep: qmake.. that qt version of make.. he says command not found
[06:06] <abd> sure is installed , but to tell bash where qmake is .....
[06:07] <TheSheep> abd: are you following some sort of a tutorial?
[06:07] <abd> I edit /etc/environment/ but it still not working
[06:07] <abd> yeah ..
[06:07] <TheSheep> abd: you need to open new terminal for the /etc/environment to start working
[06:07] <TheSheep> abd: link to that tutorial?
 but I followed qt instruction (INSTALL FILE)
[06:09] <TheSheep> abd: what are you compiling?
[06:09] <abd> test.pro
[06:10] <TheSheep> nevermind, let's try a different way
[06:10] <TheSheep> abd: is qt3-dev-tools installed?
[06:10] <abd> C++ GUI Programming with Qt 4
[06:10] <abd> By Jasmin Blanchette, Mark Summerfield
[06:10] <TheSheep> ah, 4
[06:10] <TheSheep> is qt4-dev-tools installed?
[06:11] <abd> QT_4.2.3
[06:11] <TheSheep> try installing the qt3-dev-tools too
[06:11] <abd> like what , I installed qt-x11 opensource from the official site
[06:12] <TheSheep> abd: ah, so you intalled your own (non-ubuntu version in some non-standard place?
[06:13] <TheSheep> abd: so it installed into /usr/local or /opt ?
[06:13] <abd> no I did ti from trolltech site
[06:14] <TheSheep> abd: ubuntu provides ready packages with software, prepared for ubuntu
[06:14] <TheSheep> abd: maybe you should try with these?
[06:14] <abd> no I install it in /home/abd/qt , & while it installing it take place in /usr/local/Trollecth/Qt-4.2.3./
[06:14] <abd> & r last ver of Qt ?
[06:15] <TheSheep>      4.2.3-0ubuntu3 0
[06:15] <TheSheep> !info  qt4-dev-tools
[06:15] <ubotu> qt4-dev-tools: Qt 4 development tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.3-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 728 kB, installed size 1876 kB
[06:16] <TheSheep> abd: looks like pretty recent
[06:16] <abd> can I find the repository in ubuntu site ????
[06:17] <TheSheep> abd: http://packages.ubuntu.com, but you can just use the system->synaptic package manager to install the packages
[06:18] <abd> in synaptic , after update I have not the latest ver :(
[06:18] <TheSheep> abd: which ubuntu do you use?
[06:19] <abd> xubuntu edgy
[06:19] <TheSheep> abd: ok, we can try to make your work
[06:19] <TheSheep> abd: what did you add to your PATH?
[06:20] <abd> PATH=usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin:$PATH  ---> export PATH
[06:20] <abd> which qt installation creates
[06:20] <TheSheep> abd: you need an / before that 'usr'
[06:20] <abd> & /home/abd/qt/bin
[06:20] <TheSheep>  PATH=/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin:$PATH
[06:21] <abd> I did but I forget itnow only :)
[06:21] <TheSheep> ok, what happens when you type 'which qmake' ?
[06:22] <abd> root@abd-desktop:/etc# qmake
[06:22] <abd> bash: qmake: command not found
[06:22] <TheSheep> abd: try as normal user
[06:22] <abd> abd@abd-desktop:/etc$ qmake
[06:22] <abd> bash: qmake: command not found
[06:23] <abd> :"(
[06:23] <TheSheep> ls -l /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/qmake
[06:25] <TheSheep> abd: maybe consider upgrading to feisty, it has qt 4.2.3 ready and working out of the box
[06:26] <abd> in lebanon we have poor connection , but I install it in uni ....  .
[06:26] <TheSheep> abd: what did that last command show?
[06:26] <abd> I cant install a package for feisty  on edgy
[06:26] <TheSheep> abd: that ls -l
[06:27] <abd> bd@abd-desktop:/etc$ ls -l /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/qmake
[06:27] <abd> ls: /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/qmake: No such file or directory
[06:27] <abd> I knew that qmake is not in this path , thus I export the second one
[06:28] <TheSheep> aah, with what command?
[06:30] <abd> abd@abd-desktop:/etc$ ls -l /home/abd/qt/bin/qmake
[06:30] <abd> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2316096 2007-05-08 03:37 /home/abd/qt/bin/qmake
[06:33] <TheSheep> abd: so, when you do 'export PATH=/home/abd/qt/bin:/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin:$PATH', it still doesn't work?
[06:35] <abd> yeah ,  & after nano editing
[06:35] <TheSheep> abd: what are you editing?
[06:35] <abd> mark tht yesterday it worked , only I tried if it's known
[06:35] <abd> the full path
[06:36] <abd> the two pathes
[06:36] <TheSheep> abd: I think that for /etc/environment to work, you need to log out and log in back -- but then it will be permanent
[06:37] <abd> I did it right now before going in IRC :P
[06:38] <TheSheep> abd: what does that line in your /etc/environment look like exactly? Can you copy and paste here?
[06:39] <abd> ATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/bin/:/home/abd/qt/bin/"
[06:39] <abd> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[06:40] <TheSheep> abd: I assume it's 'PATH' ;)
[06:40] <TheSheep> abd: maybe try without the / at the end :(
[06:40] <abd> I did :D
[06:40] <TheSheep> abd: what do you get when you type 'echo $PATH' ?
[06:41] <abd> root@abd-desktop:/etc# echo $PATH
[06:41] <abd> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[06:41] <TheSheep> abd: from normal user :(
[06:43] <abd> abd@abd-desktop:/etc$ echo $PATH
[06:43] <abd> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[06:43] <abd> after removing / @ end
[06:44] <TheSheep> abd: you did relog?
[06:45] <abd> I didnt relog ever , before , It close my programs running ???
[06:46] <TheSheep> abd: unfortunately yes
[06:46] <abd> ok
[06:48] <weswh-> will Xubuntu run reasonably on a 400mhz celeron/64 ram? or is it not worth installing?
[06:48] <TheSheep> weswh-: a little low ram
[06:48] <TheSheep> weswh-: you don't have any way to get more?
[06:49] <TheSheep> weswh-: fluxbox or some other minimalistic wm would be better, xfce will run too, but may be a tad slow with all the swapping
[06:49] <weswh-> i could...it's just a lot of $ for PC66 SODIMMs these days. heh
[06:49] <weswh-> gotcha.
 qmake is know by system but I have another error :D thanks
[06:55] <TheSheep> abd: you need to add the lib directories to /etc/ldconf
[06:55] <abd> why ?
[06:55] <TheSheep> abd: becsuse otherwise the system won't be able to find the .so shared libraries you installed
[06:56] <abd> editing what ?& logout again ?
[06:57] <TheSheep> no, you don't need to log out this time
[06:57] <W8TAH> hi folks - someone told me to install a package called qt3 config -- but im not being able to find it in synaptic -- can someone point me in the right direction?
[06:57] <TheSheep> abd: just add the paths to lib directories at the end of /etc/ld.so.conf
[06:58] <TheSheep> !info qt3-qtconfig | W8TAH
[06:58] <ubotu> w8tah: qt3-qtconfig: The Qt3 Configuration Application. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 95 kB, installed size 328 kB
[06:58] <TheSheep> abd: then run 'ldconfig'
[06:59] <abd> details abt lib direc
[06:59] <TheSheep> abd: /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.2.3/lib probably
[07:00] <TheSheep> abd: ah, and ldcache needs to be run as root
[07:00] <W8TAH> TheSheep, thanks - -I did it through apt-get -- is that correct (im comming from a different distro and trying to get my feet under me still)
[07:00] <TheSheep> W8TAH: yes, it's fine
[07:01] <W8TAH> cool -- is that stuff not held in synaptic?
[07:01] <TheSheep> W8TAH: you can use 'apt-cache search something' to search for something
[07:01] <W8TAH> kool
[07:01] <TheSheep> W8TAH: it is in synaptic too -- basically, synaptic uses apt-get itself internally
[07:01] <W8TAH> ok- - cool -- sorry for all the ??? trying to get oriented
[07:02] <TheSheep> W8TAH: no need to be sorry, this is a SUPPORT channel
[07:02] <W8TAH> :)
[07:02] <W8TAH> that is welcome to hear
[07:02] <W8TAH> :)
[07:05] <abd> look I'm thinkig in installing the package ready from ubuntu ?? but how get the repository ??
[07:05] <TheSheep> abd: I think there is only qt3 for edgy, but I may be wrong
[07:06] <abd> no I found  qt4 in edgy
[07:06] <abd> but how get the repos
[07:06] <TheSheep> !repos
[07:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:07] <TheSheep> abd: basically, you need to have the 'universe' repository enabled
[07:07] <TheSheep> abd: then just install the qt4-dev-tools with synaptic
[07:07] <nixternal> libqt4-core as well (in main)
[07:07] <TheSheep> nixternal: shoudn't the dev-tools depend on it?
[07:07] <nixternal> you would think ;)
[07:07] <TheSheep> haha
[07:08] <nixternal> ya, it all ties together, so if you grab even qt4-designer it will pull in everything you need
[07:08] <TheSheep> honestly, one day I will run my own toolkit, just to increase the confusion :)
[07:09] <TheSheep> I will; take a piece from tcl/tk, qt, gtk, gnome-ui, wx, gnustep and swing
[07:09] <TheSheep> and depend on them all
[07:14] <deniz_ogu1> Hi dear friends. I'm trying to edit xorg.conf. I'm in the proper directory: /etc/X11. I can see the xorg.conf file there. But I can open it to edit neither with sudo mousepad xorg.conf nor with sudo vi xorg.conf. Why? What should I do. (By the way, I'm using urxvt terminal emulator because of the known issue that the default terminal crashes x. But it seems to function as a terminal as well.)
[07:17] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: what message are yu getting?
[07:17] <TheSheep> you
[07:18] <deniz_ogu1> TheSheep: For mousepad: It opens a blank page. Warns me that I'm root and I should be careful. But the page is totally white blank.
[07:18] <deniz_ogu1> For vi: A blank page opens in terminal. there's only # signs at the beginnig of the lines but there are no actuel lines.
[07:18] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: try 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:19] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: did it show you the right content of that file?
[07:20] <deniz_ogu1> TheSheep: yes, with cat it outputs the file. But how to edit it?
[07:20] <hyper_ch> ui, JDK now under GPL 2 :)
[07:21] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: did you try to scroll that file? maybe ito nly has empty beginning?
[07:22] <deniz_ogu1> TheSheep: I did but wil try again. Which one do you advice vi or mousepad. (I miss my lovely gedit!)
[07:22] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: you can change most settings by doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:23] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: well, if you can use vi, then use it, otherwise use whatever you are comfortable with
[07:23] <deniz_ogu1> Ok that may solve my problem for now. I'm trying to function my serial mouse! :-)
[07:24] <deniz_ogu1> But editing problem is something else. Weird. I've done it in Ubuntu once upon a time. I almost know how to do but can't at the moment.
[07:24] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: try with full path: 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf;
[07:25] <TheSheep> '
[07:25] <deniz_ogu1> TheSpeep: Is mousepad function in these cases? To edit such files. I want to use the xubuntu defaults at the moment. I don't want to inistall gnome things such as gedit.
[07:25] <deniz_ogu1> TheSheep: nano. i didn't try it. ok i will try with nano.
[07:25] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: you can use mousepad as well, better to use gksu than sudo then
[07:26] <deniz_ogu1> is it the same? gksu=? sudo
[07:26] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: gksu is more suited for graphical applications
[07:27] <deniz_ogu1> TheSheep: Thank you. I took your time.
[07:27] <TheSheep> deniz_ogu1: I like it :)
[07:27] <kingwalterii> sometimes when i click the shut down button in xfce, it logs me out, other times it actually shuts down...any thoughts on why?
[07:28] <TheSheep> kingwalterii: it should display a dialog with several buttons constrolling what to do...
[07:28] <kingwalterii> it does
[07:28] <kingwalterii> and i click shut down
[07:29] <TheSheep> kingwalterii: that's weird. which version? anything specific in your install?
[07:30] <kingwalterii> it happened in edgy, updated and still happening in feisty
[07:30] <TheSheep> kingwalterii: is it totally random?
[07:30] <kingwalterii> i havent figured out the pattern
[07:30] <kingwalterii> if there is one
[07:31] <kingwalterii> i think it tends to happen when not plugged in
[07:31] <kingwalterii> tends to not shut down
[07:33] <TheSheep> kingwalterii: it's not this? Bug #46571
[07:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 46571 in xfce4 "xfce4 doesnt shut down properly" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46571
[07:34] <kingwalterii> it drops to the gui login
[07:34] <kingwalterii> and doesnt shut down
[07:36] <TheSheep> kingwalterii: it looks like  something new then
[07:36] <TheSheep> kingwalterii: please report a bug
[07:36] <TheSheep> !bugs | kingwalterii
[07:36] <ubotu> kingwalterii: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:41] <kingwalterii> hmm, ok. thanks for the help
[07:42] <TheSheep> thnk you for finding a new bug :)
[07:42] <TheSheep> kalikiana: \o/
[07:43] <kalikiana> hi TheSheep :)
[07:46] <W8TAH> hi again folks -- 2 quick questions for ya -- i would like to add a terminal to my right click menu, and how do i add items to the meuns under applications
[07:53] <TheSheep> W8TAH: use the menu editor form the settings menu
[07:54] <W8TAH> cool
[07:54] <TheSheep> W8TAH: it's only good for adding things though -- all the other ones are included from the autogenerated menus
[07:55] <W8TAH> is it possible to get things into the categories -- for example - -i just added kino, and id like that to be in the mulitmedia menu
[07:55] <W8TAH> ooops
[07:55] <W8TAH> never mind
[07:55] <W8TAH> i goofed
[07:56] <TheSheep> just make such a menu and put the icon there
[08:32] <deniz_ogut> TheSheep: Instead of sudo, gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf worked for me and I managed to edit the file and I can use my serial mouse at the moment. Thanks again. (But I still have a feeling that there's something weird with all these terminal-editor relations. In usuntu this was not the case as far as I can remember. I7m not sure to start a discussion in somewhere such as launcpad bugzilla or not. If you say that everything is normal; a relatively n
[08:34] <TheSheep> deniz_ogut: well, I don't know where to start checking things in your case
[08:34] <TheSheep> deniz_ogut: glad to hear you managed to work around it somehow
[08:35] <deniz_ogut> maybe my hardware (a low end machine) but configurations are the defaults.
[08:35] <deniz_ogut> thank you again. :-)
[08:50] <q-t> Hey I downloaded xubuntu, and it was a rar file, not iso. I am to just extract the rar file and burn what is in it onto a disk?? like a data cd/dvd or do I have to make it an ISO or something??
[08:56] <W8TAH> how do i "un-modprobe" a module
[08:57] <Merchelo> remmod?
[08:57] <W8TAH> thanks
[08:57] <hyper_ch> modeprobe -r
[08:59] <crdlb> it's rmmod and modprobe -r lol
[09:00] <crdlb> but I think modprobe -r is better
[09:06] <hyper_ch> crdlb: dunno... I just man'ed modprobe and it stated modprobe -r
[09:22] <shawn34> Does anyone know of a Dreamcast emulator for linux?
[09:48] <hyper_ch> what's dreamcast?
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> sega games console
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> more interesting would be if someone knows how to build a dreamcast ethernet adapter
[09:57] <abd> while installing using apt-get --> failed , so which command can continue installing ?
[09:58] <Merchelo> try using aptitude instead, or synaptic
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> abd: is this during installation ?
[09:59] <hyper_ch> abd: what error message?
[09:59] <abd> using apt-get
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> you are not being clear
[10:00] <abd>  http://lb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libqt4-dev 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 [4186kB] 
[10:01] <abd> Fetched 24.5MB in 1h43m14s (3950B/s)
[10:01] <abd> Failed to fetch http://lb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/libmysqlclient15-dev_5.0.24a-9ubuntu2_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[10:01] <abd> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[10:02] <abd> the connection is slow in lebanon , it failed to download it , i need to continue not restart , how
[10:15] <cjae_> hello
[10:16] <cjae_> anyone else have problems with deluge crashing on exit?
[10:17] <cjae_> is deluge written in python
[10:18] <cjae_> using 7.04 and python keeps using 101% cpu
[10:20] <cjae_> not to be rude but is anyone awake here?
[10:21] <BFTD> nope
[10:23] <cjae_> BFTD, is that to me?
[10:23] <BFTD> I think so, I was asleep so I missed something
[10:24] <BFTD> I heard about the 101% thing, is it while the program is running, using python?
[10:24] <cjae_> May I ask my questions here?
[10:24] <q-t> I`ve installed xubuntu on a laptop, but the wireless network card isnt working...where can I get the drivers?
[10:25] <BFTD> most certainly
[10:26] <cjae_> BFTD, I assume it runs on python cause when I try to close it the app freezes and my process shows 101% cpu usage
[10:26] <BFTD> what kind of card is it? run "lspci" in terminal
[10:27] <q-t> BFTD: me?
[10:27] <BFTD> q-t yes
[10:27] <q-t> BFTD: I`ll check. I have to restart...brb
[10:28] <cjae_> so I kill it and all seems to be well I don't know if something else is causing the problem? like another app
[10:30] <cjae_> BFTD, are u there?
[10:30] <BFTD> yes
[10:31] <BFTD> what version of python?
[10:33] <Merchelo> ~wifi
[10:33] <Merchelo> !wifi | q-t
[10:33] <ubotu> q-t: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:33] <q-t> BFTD: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[10:33] <cjae_> BFTD, ython gtk2 2.10.4
[10:34] <cjae_> sorry python
[10:34] <W8TAH> hi folks -
[10:34] <W8TAH> im working through the following howto as per the wiki
[10:34] <W8TAH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[10:34] <W8TAH> to install my broadcom wireless card
[10:34] <W8TAH> im down to were it had me instal the wireless-manager-gnome -- how do i get that to show up in xfc?
[10:35] <q-t> It suddenly worked:P haha
[10:35] <q-t> well, all hail ubuntu:D
[10:36] <cjae_> BFTD, it xubuntu 7.04 with all updates installed
[10:36] <j1mc> W8TAH: try typing "nm-applet" from the command line.
[10:37] <j1mc> W8TAH: don't use the quotes, though.  :)
[10:38] <W8TAH> ok
[10:38] <W8TAH> AHHHH
[10:38] <W8TAH> kool
[10:39] <hyper_ch> BFTD: is it more efficient to have multiple swap partitions among different drives or have one large swap?
[10:39] <cjae_> BFTD, I think I had to install something before I enabled the repositories and used the disc to install python via apt-get and then I got updated a few days ago
[10:40] <BFTD> gbet python 2.5
[10:42] <cjae_> BFTD,  what?
[10:42] <BFTD> sudo aptitude install python 2.5
[10:42] <BFTD> !python 2.5
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python 2.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <BFTD> !info python 2.5
[10:43] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[10:43] <j1mc> W8TAH: =)  it works really well in xubuntu.  if you close your terminal, nm-applet will also appear to close, but will appear the next time you reboot.
[10:44] <cjae_> BFTD, why is my system not updating to this?
[10:44] <cjae_> !info python 2.5
[10:44] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[10:44] <BFTD> cjae_ you want to keep python 2.4 because a lot of programs need it
[10:45] <BFTD> that's why it won't update it
[10:45] <cjae_> BFTD, so will 2.5 break them or will it install beside it?
[10:47] <cjae_> BFTD, how do I tell what version of python I have?
[10:48] <cjae_> btw this was a fresh install of feisty
[10:49] <crimsun> cjae_: readlink /usr/bin/python
[10:52] <cjae_> Couldn't find package "2.5", and more than 40
[10:52] <cjae_> readlink /usr/bin/python
[10:52] <crimsun> hmm?
[10:52] <cjae_> python2.5
[10:53] <crimsun> yes, that's python 2.5.  It's the default version in feisty.
[10:53] <crimsun> what are you looking for anyhow?
[10:53] <cjae_> look like that is what it was already
[10:53] <cjae_> keeps maxing out cpu
[10:54] <cjae_> I try to close deluge and it freezes and I check process manager and python is at 101% or higher
[10:55] <Jester45> my xorg was 121 before... xfce cpu plugin said other wise
[10:56] <cjae_> as soon as I kill it deluge closes and system runs fine
[10:56] <|Slurpee|> So I am trying to install xubuntu 7.04 on an old compaq prosignia desktop.
[10:57] <|Slurpee|> i can get to the xubuntu boot screen but once I select any opions I recieve "loading isolinux: disk error 58, AX = 4288, drive 9f"
[10:57] <hyper_ch> Jester45: is it more efficient to have multiple swap partitions among different drives or have one large swap?
[10:57] <cjae_> crimsun, hello
[10:57] <|Slurpee|> then I only have option "I/O error, error reading boot cd." "reboot?"
[10:59] <|Slurpee|> i tried new cd-r media.  i can boot into other livecds such as knoppix.  i currently have debian installed on the desktop's hard drive using grub.
[10:59] <|Slurpee|> any ideas ?
[11:00] <scur> tried the cd on another machine?
[11:00] <|Slurpee|> yes
[11:00] <Jester45> hyper_ch: umm, idk for linux becuase its smarter but in windows one swap on the fastest drive, becuase windows only uses one swap and will pick the fastest but the others are wasted
[11:00] <|Slurpee|> i also drive 2 other cd-rom drives
[11:00] <crimsun> cjae_: yes?
[11:01] <hyper_ch> Jester45: idk?
[11:01] <scur> drive? so you've got 3 cdroms in the machine?
[11:01] <Jester45> hyper_ch: i would say for linux to use 1 swap also
[11:01] <Jester45> hyper_ch: i dont know a.k.a. idk
[11:01] <ciro314> my Applications >> System >> Network >> hosts. is empty what should i do?
[11:01] <|Slurpee|> i swapped out the cd-rom drives
[11:02] <hyper_ch> Jester45: ah :) well, I was thinking if you have swap on different drives and you read something from one drive... then the computer could still write to the swap partitions on the other drives... so I thought it might be more efficient
[11:02] <Jester45> hyper_ch: can you copy files faster across  one drive or two at the same time
[11:02] <Jester45> hyper_ch: ok, how are your drives layed out, the partitions
[11:02] <cjae_> crimsun, did you see my problem
[11:02] <hyper_ch> Jester45: so far one big swap partition
[11:03] <Jester45> hyper_ch: if one drive is for system and the other is for /home then put the swap on the /home drive because that should be less active
[11:03] <hyper_ch> Jester45: http://phpfi.com/233087
[11:03] <hyper_ch> root and home are on the same drive.. as is SWAP
[11:04] <scur> |Slurpee|, you've done everything i'd try (but I'm not an expert) :) you could always try netinstalling from debian (i've not done that with ubuntu though, only debian a few years back)
[11:04] <crimsun> cjae_: no, I'm fairly busy ATM.  I'll read backscrool ASAP.
[11:04] <crimsun> backscroll, even
[11:05] <crimsun> cjae_: are you using the newest version of deluge (not in the official Ubuntu repository)?
[11:05] <cjae_> I installed with apt-get
[11:05] <hyper_ch> |Slurpee|: did you also try the alternate install cd?
[11:06] <crimsun> cjae_: that's the old version that has known issues.
[11:06] <crimsun> cjae_: I recommend that you purge that package and use the version distributed on its web site.
[11:06] <cjae_> crimsun, where do you suggest I dl it from?
[11:06] <crimsun> cjae_: from the web site of deluge-torrent.
[11:07] <|Slurpee|> hyper what do u mean by alternate
[11:08] <|Slurpee|> i am able to boot into knoppix livecd with no problems.  if that is what you mean.
[11:08] <blahblahx> i have a ibm thinkpad with a 1.8ghz processor and 128mb or RAM and an ati card
[11:08] <cjae_> crimsun, I believe I installed that one before I did the fresh install
[11:08] <blahblahx> and when i boot into xubuntu 7.04 it gives me a blue screen after loading
[11:08] <blahblahx> with a cursor
[11:08] <blahblahx> i have tried every mode
[11:09] <blahblahx> and it still happens
[11:09] <cjae_> crimsun, and it would not even cache the dl's maybe it was not the offical site
[11:09] <blahblahx> does anyone have a solution for me?
[11:10] <hyper_ch> |Slurpee|: you are trying to install ubuntu feisty, right?
[11:10] <|Slurpee|> xubuntu, yes
[11:10] <|Slurpee|> i ran it on other machines no problem
[11:11] <|Slurpee|> just this compaq is being werid
[11:11] <hyper_ch> well, the installation is normally better from the alternate cd... not from the desktop one
[11:11] <|Slurpee|> how is it normally better?
[11:11] <|Slurpee|> why doesnt everyone just used the alternate cd ?
[11:11] <cjae_> alternate cd is way better
[11:11] <blahblahx> how about me :(
[11:11] <hyper_ch> |Slurpee|: it's less prone to failure
[11:11] <blahblahx> wait is there an xubuntu alternate cd
[11:11] <blahblahx> or just an ubuntu one
[11:12] <hyper_ch> blahblahx: what did you do?
[11:12] <hyper_ch> there are alternate cds to ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu
[11:12] <blahblahx> where can i get them
[11:12] <hyper_ch> as well as desktop ones
[11:12] <blahblahx> link please for the xubuntu one
[11:12] <hyper_ch> blahblahx: from the same place you got the desktop one... just scroll a bit further down until yuo see "Alternate"
[11:13] <blahblahx> oh my problem is this: i have a ibm thinkpad with a 1.8ghz processor and 128mb or RAM and an ati card and when i boot into xubuntu 7.04 it gives me a blue screen after loading
[11:13] <blahblahx> and ive tried every mode
[11:14] <hyper_ch> blahblahx: have you installed feisty already?
[11:14] <blahblahx> no
[11:14] <cjae_> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/xubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[11:14] <blahblahx> off the livecd
[11:14] <ciro314> hello. could anybody help me, please? Applications >> System >> Network >> hosts. is empty what should i do?
[11:15] <|Slurpee|> cjae, any faster servers ? ;/
[11:15] <hyper_ch> blahblahx: well, ATI is always troublesome... if you are sure you want to install xubuntu feisty, download the alternate install ced
[11:15] <blahblahx> ok
[11:15] <hyper_ch> |Slurpee|: got bittorrent?
[11:15] <cjae_> does anyone have the address for the official deluge p2p client
[11:16] <hyper_ch> |Slurpee|: or what country are you from?
[11:16] <q-t> hey, doesnt openoffice work in xfce??
[11:16] <hyper_ch> q-t: sure it works
[11:16] <ciro314> cjae_: i prefer transmission bittorrent client. its tiny too
[11:16] <q-t> its all screwy at the toolbar when i start it
[11:16] <hyper_ch> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/alternate/
[11:16] <q-t> doesnt look like it works...
[11:16] <blahblahx> yeah transmission is the best
[11:16] <hyper_ch> q-t: it works for me
[11:17] <cjae_> |Slurpee|, sorry don't know what I used
[11:17] <q-t> hmmm
[11:17] <hyper_ch> q-t: what does not work?
[11:17] <q-t> hyper_ch: the graphics all screwy at the top of the window....
[11:17] <cjae_> |Slurpee|, for some reason the color doesnt change when you send to me
[11:18] <hyper_ch> q-t: you mean you have no buttons and only plain-text?
[11:19] <|Slurpee|> usa
[11:19] <cjae_> does anyone have the address for the official deluge p2p client
[11:19] <TheSheep> q-t: there was someone with identical problem already
[11:19] <hyper_ch> |Slurpee|: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/7.04/release/xubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[11:19] <TheSheep> q-t: she was using an intel graphics card
[11:20] <crimsun> cjae_: did you seriously just want to be lazy?  http://deluge-torrent.org/
[11:20] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: well the problem I had with re-isntall was that no theme-pack was auto-installed... but I don't know if q-t has the same issue
[11:20] <crimsun> that's literally a two-second Google search.
[11:20] <cjae_> crimsun, sorry I was just typing it wrong
[11:21] <q-t> TheSheep: Ok, I think thats whats my problem
[11:22] <cjae_> crimsun, got jumped night before last and kicked in the head a lot so my motor skills (typing) and vision are not to great
[11:23] <q-t> TheSheep: I was told that the graphics card on the laptop im using is ATI, but it seems like its Intel
[11:23] <q-t> TheSheep: Is there a solution?
[11:24] <cliebow> cjae_, you ok?
[11:25] <cjae_> sort of just asking for a liitle patients
[11:25] <cjae_> opps little
[11:25] <TheSheep> q-t: I think that reducing the color depth helped temporarily in that particular case, although it's a hrdly an acceptable solution
[11:26] <godless> !info beryl-plugins-unsupported
[11:26] <ubotu> beryl-plugins-unsupported: Collection of extra plugins for Beryl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 248 kB
[11:26] <cjae_> hospital released so should be
[11:26] <q-t> TheSheep: I`ll see what I can do. I have to take care of something else right now
[11:26] <godless> how do I find the contents of that package?
[11:26] <q-t> thnx for the help ;)
[11:26] <cliebow> cjae_, where  was this?
[11:27] <cjae_> crimsun, I think this is the one I dl'ed before and would not cache dl's and various other things
[11:27] <cjae_> cliebow, in my driveway
[11:28] <cliebow> in philly?
[11:28] <cjae_> way up in Canada
[11:28] <cliebow> good grief...
[11:29] <cjae_> yeah guy thought I stole his motor bike or something but I think they found out who really did it
[11:30] <cjae_> thanks for asking though
[11:30] <cjae_> the guy apparently has a record of this type of thing
[11:30] <cliebow> i live in Maine..havcnt locked the door for years..some sort of morbid curiousity..
[11:31] <cjae_> It happened in a town off 700 ppl and I never have locked my door before now either
[11:31] <hyper_ch> what's the default gnome irc client?
[11:31] <cjae_> sorry "of"
[11:32] <cliebow> left my camp for four months..when  i got back i knew someone had been in..cause there was a gallon of new milk oj and a dozen eggs put in the fridge that day
[11:33] <cjae_> guess that further proves the whole assuming thing
[11:34] <cjae_> cliebow, At least u got something from it
[11:35] <cliebow> someone'd gathered i was coming home anad picked me upo a few things..island living you see
[11:35] <cjae_> cliebow, very strange though
[11:36] <cliebow> well..ive only had xubuntu a couple days..but if i can help ..holler
[11:36] <cjae_> anyone else here had luck with http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubuntu/feisty/
[11:37] <cjae_> cliebow, thanks
[12:09] <nopcode> hey
[12:09] <nopcode> i've tried to follow the installation isntructions for the nvidia driver
[12:09] <nopcode> but now X doesnt come up at boot
[12:09] <nopcode> it says "failed to load module nvidia"
[12:09] <nopcode> and "modprobe nvidia" says "error running install command for nvidia"
[12:12] <hyper_ch> nopcode: what nvidia card, what os, what instructions?
[12:12] <nopcode> 8800
[12:13] <nopcode> i found them on some page, dunno
[12:13] <nopcode> some wiki
[12:13] <hyper_ch> and what os?
[12:13] <nopcode> uh, xubuntu
[12:14] <nopcode> with the 2.6.22 kernel
[12:14] <hyper_ch> so it's feisty
[12:14] <nopcode> no actually i installed the previous version
[12:14] <nopcode> but i installed the kernel package from feisty
[12:14] <nopcode> to try and fix a network card issue
[12:14] <hyper_ch> why not upgrade?
[12:14] <nopcode> how?
[12:14] <hyper_ch> !upgrade
[12:14] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:15] <nopcode> so i should browse that with lynx now?
[12:15] <nopcode> hmm my sources.list has "feisty" all over the place
[12:15] <nopcode> and i did a dist-upgrade but it didnt download much
[12:15] <Pumpernickel> `cat /etc/issue` will show what release you're on.
[12:15] <nopcode> "ubuntu 7.04"
[12:16] <nopcode> would that be feisty?
[12:16] <Pumpernickel> Yeah.
[12:16] <nopcode> oh, ok sorry then
[12:16] <hyper_ch> Do you have:  Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager?
[12:16] <nopcode> hyper_ch: i dont have X at the moment
[12:16] <Pumpernickel> The kernel you have is the one slated to be in Gutsy.
[12:16] <nopcode> Pumpernickel: ah right gutsy was the new version - i confused them
[12:16] <Pumpernickel> (Whcih is horribly unstable at the moment.)
[12:16] <nopcode> hyper_ch: but i followed the instructions about disabling the "nv" module
[12:16] <nopcode> hyper_ch: if thats what you're referring to
[12:17] <nopcode> Pumpernickel: so should i remove the 2.6.22 kernel as well?
[12:17] <hyper_ch> nopcode: you should be able to install from a gui... you shouldn't need to follow any wiki
[12:17] <nopcode> i mean, it didnt solve my issues anyways
[12:17] <nopcode> hyper_ch: i thought installing the nvidia driver always needed manual work..
[12:17] <hyper_ch> not in feisty anymore
[12:18] <nopcode> ok so... is the 2.6.22 kernel from gutsy the source of my problem?
[12:18] <nopcode> it probably didnt get the proper modules for that?
[12:18] <hyper_ch> nopcode: dunno... I don't play with out-of-release kernels
[12:18] <nopcode> ok so i'll uninstall that
[12:18] <nopcode> brb
[12:19] <nopcode> didnt work..
[12:19] <hyper_ch> nopcode: you removed the gutsy kernel and rebooted?
[12:20] <nopcode> hyper_ch: no
[12:20] <nopcode> apt-get didnt remove the kenrnel
[12:20] <nopcode> "pre-removal script returned error status 9"
[12:20] <nopcode> it says something about "error setting debconf flags..."
[12:20] <hyper_ch> nopcode: well boot into the old kernel
[12:21] <hyper_ch> then you should be able to remove the gutsy one
[12:21] <nopcode> ok
[12:21] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 248/897GB, RAM: 996/1010MB, 137 proc's, 5.47h up
[12:21] <hyper_ch> .20-15 is the current one