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| Didius | Hi | 12:19 |
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| Didius | is there any hot potatoes alike for linux? | 12:19 |
| lns | Didius, "hot potatoes"? | 12:20 |
| Didius | Hot potatoes, a program to make excercices for pupils which they can make on the PC | 12:21 |
| Didius | http://hotpot.uvic.ca/ | 12:21 |
| Didius | there is a wine linux version but well you know | 12:22 |
| Didius | :d | 12:22 |
| Didius | + it's closed source | 12:22 |
| Didius | I tried eXe e-learning but that's not realy that good for closed questions | 12:23 |
| lns | hmmm, i haven't heard of any | 12:23 |
| lns | if there are, they're probably for the commandline/cureses =p | 12:23 |
| lns | but i dunno, i could be wrong | 12:23 |
| Didius | hot potatoes is very know though | 12:24 |
| cmonkey | the main page says theyres a java version that runs in linux | 12:31 |
| cmonkey | *there's | 12:31 |
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| allenm_ | hello? anybody home? | 12:36 |
| Didius | yes? | 12:36 |
| Didius | i'm at home :d | 12:36 |
| allenm_ | is it usually this quite on the edubuntu irc channel | 12:37 |
| Didius | i don't know :p | 12:37 |
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| Didius | wel hi countrymike :d | 12:38 |
| countrymike | hello :-) | 12:38 |
| allenm_ | I'm looking for info about charter schools using edubuntu - hi mike | 12:38 |
| Didius | excuse me for asking, but what are charter schools? | 12:40 |
| allenm_ | Sorry Didius. Type of public school in the US that's more independent then most public schools. | 12:41 |
| Didius | what kind of information would u like? | 12:42 |
| allenm_ | is there an organization promoting the use of OSS for charter schools specifically. | 12:43 |
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| Didius | well in europe (belgium) there are. I don't know about the US though | 12:45 |
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| allenm_ | do you know who I might be able to contact who might know that sort of thing? I'm new to Ubuntu, even newer to Edubuntu. | 12:46 |
| Didius | how about the ubuntuforums.org? | 12:48 |
| Didius | there's nothing in the edubuntu wiki about charter schools | 12:48 |
| allenm_ | I've been looking at the forums while we've been chatting and most of the topics are technical in nature. Is there a forum you'd recommend? | 12:49 |
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| Didius | perhaps the mailing list would be a good idea for this kind of question | 12:50 |
| skipper | Hi everyone | 12:51 |
| Didius | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-education | 12:51 |
| allenm_ | hi skipper | 12:51 |
| Didius | hi skipper | 12:51 |
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| skipper | After a rocky start, I got my 7.04 server and 12 terminals connected! | 12:52 |
| skipper | hi n2diy | 12:55 |
| allenm_ | skipper, was that install for a school? | 12:59 |
| cliebow | allenm_:might ask dtrask..he may have a good handle on new england.. | 01:01 |
| cliebow | i have installs for several public schools here in Maine | 01:02 |
| allenm_ | cliebow: I'm from the Detroit area. While poking around on the wiki I came across LOCO's. Turns out I know some of the guys in the Detroit area LOCO. | 01:03 |
| cliebow | jammcq:who created ltsp..is in Waterford | 01:03 |
| cliebow | anyway..if you google for dtrask//you'll coime up eith an email addy | 01:04 |
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| allenm_ | I know the guy from our MUG meetings. I guess that tells me who I ought to contact. :) | 01:05 |
| cliebow | big jim..yep | 01:05 |
| allenm_ | jammcq: thanks. my last comment was directed at you. | 01:06 |
| cliebow | he is asleep..in Spain | 01:06 |
| cliebow | i'd wager | 01:06 |
| allenm_ | yup. he did a video feed from spain yesterday and interviewed a Mark Shuttleworth and a couple of other Ubuntu guys. | 01:08 |
| cliebow | a mark shuttleworth is the guy behind ALl of this | 01:12 |
| allenm_ | I know. The "a" was a slip of the keyboard. They were showing off Intel's version of the OLPC. The audio was bad so I couldn't hear much about it though. | 01:13 |
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| skipper | /msg allenm_ Yeah, I experimenting with doing away with my windoz machines. The handwriting is on the wall. My older ME machines need other software. | 01:25 |
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| allenm_ | personal windows machine or where that LTSP install went in? | 01:33 |
| allenm_ | darn, that was for skipper | 01:33 |
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| skipper | allenm_ I built up a server with a 2 G processor and 2 G of ram. All of the terminal servers are my old 400 MHZ windows ME machines. So far it is running beautifully! | 01:41 |
| skipper | allenm_Oops, The terminal server Clients are older machines. | 01:43 |
| cliebow | me is not an operating system...8`) | 01:48 |
| n2diy | Hello Skipper, just walked in the door. | 01:50 |
| allenm_ | I've got to go as well. Bye all. | 02:10 |
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| xeratule | I just install edubuntu 64 and the Education suite is missing. Is there a fix for that? | 02:14 |
| xeratule | all of them are missing | 02:15 |
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| cliebow | xeratule, osnt there an addon cd? | 02:36 |
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| xeratule | thanks I just insert the cd in the drive and the synaptic package manager popup I deselect the servers and install all the missing package | 02:40 |
| xeratule | I will write a fix in the forum | 02:40 |
| cliebow | xeratule, so you are ok? | 02:42 |
| xeratule | Yes thanks | 02:43 |
| bimberi | cliebow: I've seen a couple of people report here that the Edubuntu Desktop CD doesn't actually install the Educational apps that are available in the LiveCD environment. I encouraged one of them to report a bug - but I'm struggling to find it. | 02:47 |
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| cliebow | bimberi, i see..we'll have to get ogra on it..i am not so familiar | 02:51 |
| bimberi | cliebow: Here's a forum discussion on it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416615 . I think I'll report the bug - even though I haven't experienced it personally (because I haven't used the Desktop CD) | 02:54 |
| cliebow | seems like a plam.. | 02:55 |
| bimberi | :) | 02:56 |
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| xeratule | I posted the fix in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2625494#post2625494 | 03:07 |
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| bimberi | Reported as bug 113719 | 04:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 113719 in ubiquity "Edubuntu Feisty Desktop CD install doesn't install the education suite" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113719 | 04:02 |
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| === Feldegast is trying to find a 640x480 screenshot of the edubuntu bootscreen (the one with the progress bar) | ||
| chris-t4 | can you grab one from my video at http://www.learningelectric.com/edubuntu.html | 04:47 |
| chris-t4 | The videos are 640 x 480 | 04:48 |
| Feldegast | tyvm :) | 04:49 |
| Feldegast | i have grub screens for ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu so far here http://www.kde-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=feldegast&action=contents | 04:50 |
| bonbonthejon | Feldegast: I already use your Kubuntu one! :) | 04:50 |
| bonbonthejon | how do I get edubuntu server to give out IPs with DHCP | 04:51 |
| Feldegast | enable the dhcpd i guess | 04:52 |
| Feldegast | the video's are of the boot process, rather than the install process? | 04:52 |
| bonbonthejon | dhcpd won't start | 04:52 |
| Feldegast | oh | 04:53 |
| Feldegast | the video looks like it is for 6.10 and not 7.04 | 04:53 |
| Feldegast | the logo's changed | 04:53 |
| chris-t4 | I think there is a brief shot of the boot screen with the progress bar at the end of the installation video. I don't know if the logo on that screen is the current one though. | 04:59 |
| Feldegast | it's the one from 6.10 | 05:00 |
| === Feldegast really doesn't want to have to installed edubuntu for 1 screen shot | ||
| chris-t4 | Sorry. I havn't installed the latest version, only updated. Do you think the video is still useful or have there been too many changes? | 05:03 |
| Feldegast | no idea as i never installed edubuntu before | 05:03 |
| Feldegast | i know the kubuntu 7.04 install is graphical and only asked 3 or 4 questions | 05:04 |
| Feldegast | ....havn't done a text install of ubuntu since 4.0x | 05:05 |
| Feldegast | 4.01 | 05:06 |
| Feldegast | chris-t4 do u instend to upgrade edubuntu? | 05:08 |
| chris-t4 | I have already done this on my machine at work. I'm running in a virtual machine. | 05:09 |
| === Feldegast uses vmware to get screen grabs | ||
| Feldegast | but i think i have managed to find something google doesn't have | 05:11 |
| === Feldegast hates when that happens | ||
| chris-t4 | Hard to believe that it's not there anywhere. | 05:13 |
| Feldegast | i think the problem is the "only 2 image results per domain" issue | 05:15 |
| Feldegast | as a result i am not finding anything relevent | 05:15 |
| chris-t4 | is it a red progress bar? I found an image with that. | 05:18 |
| Feldegast | it's a gradient one i asume | 05:20 |
| Feldegast | not a single solid colour | 05:20 |
| Feldegast | ....that's if it follows the same as the other 3 | 05:21 |
| Feldegast | got it :D | 05:25 |
| Feldegast | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Artwork/Archives/7%2e04?highlight=%287.04%29 | 05:25 |
| === Feldegast wonders why that's not googleable | ||
| Feldegast | oh wait that's just ubuntu :( | 05:26 |
| Feldegast | the artwork for edubuntu seams to be missing | 05:29 |
| chris-t4 | I can't find it anywhere either. Sorry I can't stay I've got to go to bed. Good luck with your search. | 05:30 |
| Feldegast | k ty :) | 05:31 |
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| Feldegast | anyone alive in here? | 05:42 |
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| cmonkey | maybe | 05:53 |
| Meshezabeel | sort of | 05:59 |
| Feldegast | anyone with edububntu inside vmware? | 06:14 |
| Feldegast | i know a long shot but hey worth a shot | 06:15 |
| Feldegast | guess not :( | 06:16 |
| bimberi | Feldegast: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=784&slide=3 | 06:36 |
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| bimberi | Feldegast: er, http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=784&slide=2 | 06:38 |
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| === Feldegast clicks | ||
| Feldegast | ty | 06:52 |
| === Feldegast will make the grub screen soon | ||
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| bimberi | !screenshots-#edubunti is <reply> Screenshots of Edubuntu 7.04 are available at http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=784&slide=1 | 07:31 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, bimberi | 07:31 |
| bimberi | argh | 07:32 |
| === bimberi will fix in /query | ||
| bimberi | !screenshots | 07:33 |
| ubotu | Screenshots of Edubuntu 7.04 are available at http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=784&slide=1 | 07:33 |
| kgoetz | hh | 07:34 |
| kgoetz | *heh | 07:34 |
| bimberi | hi kgoetz :) | 07:34 |
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| kgoetz | hi bimberi :) | 07:42 |
| kgoetz | sorry about lag, at itshare ;) | 07:42 |
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| bimberi | :) | 07:48 |
| kgoetz | :) | 07:49 |
| kgoetz | how are you goign mat? | 07:49 |
| kgoetz | *going mate | 07:49 |
| bimberi | Very well thanks, wishing I could install Feisty on this PC. It has to have Dapper because I can only get the driver for its winmodem compiled for Dapper. | 07:51 |
| bimberi | How about you? Been following UDS? | 07:52 |
| kgoetz | bugger. winmodems are hateful things. i assume a laptop? | 07:52 |
| bimberi | nah, a PCI modem in a desktop | 07:52 |
| kgoetz | i'm goign ok, theres a few things i should have ben doing that i havent so i'm not great. | 07:52 |
| kgoetz | as for UDS, no. i havent really. catch a few people now and then | 07:53 |
| kgoetz | but mainly no | 07:53 |
| bimberi | k | 07:53 |
| bimberi | i've tried the voip but the sound quality isn't great | 07:53 |
| kgoetz | voip is just more commitment then i can expend - both setup and horrible latncies :) | 07:54 |
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| Feldegast | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=58003 <- 1 edubuntu 7.04 branded grub screen | 09:02 |
| Feldegast | my work (for now) is done, enjoy | 09:02 |
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| willvdl | anyone seen pips1? | 11:18 |
| === highvoltage saw him go up the stairs about an hour ago | ||
| Burgundavia | willvdl: shall we chat today about doc stuff? | 11:20 |
| willvdl | Burgundavia, yeah, hope too. | 11:20 |
| willvdl | have gone through with Jordan etc. at some length. would be good to hear your ideas too | 11:20 |
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| willvdl | Burgundavia, let me know when you free | 11:44 |
| willvdl | ogra, check jim :) | 11:47 |
| Burgundavia | willvdl: will do. do you have anything today? | 11:47 |
| willvdl | Burgundavia, doesn't look like it | 11:48 |
| willvdl | jsut need a quick swim sometime this afternoon :) | 11:48 |
| Burgundavia | lucky bastard :) | 11:49 |
| willvdl | well, my stuff I'm subscribed too is just not getting scheduled... | 11:49 |
| ogra | willvdl, no need to i hear his snoring since 20min already ;) | 11:49 |
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| hca | Help help!!!! Hi there can anyone help me to add fonts to the fonts folder??? to edubuntu | 12:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | for a single user? | 12:05 |
| hca | yes | 12:06 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | open nautilus -> Ctrl+l -> type 'fonts:/// -> enter | 12:07 |
| hca | ok done that | 12:07 |
| hca | how do I save into the folder now? | 12:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | copy the files into it | 12:08 |
| hca | It won't allow me to copy the files | 12:08 |
| hca | I see the other files in the font folder are locked --> have a little lock picture on it | 12:10 |
| hca | Is it a permissions problem? | 12:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. yes. | 12:11 |
| hca | how can i overcome it? | 12:11 |
| hca | I am the administrator on the PC | 12:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | gksudo nautilus would work | 12:12 |
| hca | do i type that in terminal? | 12:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yes, or press alt+f2, and type it in there | 12:18 |
| hca | ok I'll try | 12:18 |
| hca | It gives me permision to the font folder (ie the little locks are gone) But still wont allow me to copy | 12:21 |
| hca | ??? | 12:21 |
| hca | h | 12:22 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser shrug. look in the wiki, i dont know then | ||
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| countrymike | lots o' people quittin' 4 the night | 01:36 |
| countrymike | lots o' people quittin' 4 the nite | 01:37 |
| countrymike | lots o' people quittin' | 01:37 |
| countrymike | lots o' people | 01:37 |
| countrymike | lots | 01:37 |
| countrymike | l | 01:37 |
| countrymike | pipedream ... that's s cool nick | 01:40 |
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| pygi | hi folks | 01:45 |
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| pygi | hi js and ogra | 01:59 |
| pipedream | it's ok | 01:59 |
| ogra | hey | 01:59 |
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| jsgotangco | hey pygi how's it going | 02:02 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, pretty good, a bit sick but oh well :) | 02:04 |
| pygi | you? | 02:04 |
| jsgotangco | not bad, i've started to turnover my work to my staff since I am leaving my office next week, so a bit tired | 02:05 |
| pygi | right :) | 02:08 |
| jsgotangco | i'll have lots of free time starting next week! | 02:09 |
| pygi | hehe | 02:13 |
| pygi | wanna code? :P | 02:13 |
| pygi | I have lots of tasks :) | 02:13 |
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| AnRkey | can anyone here help me with pxe booting ubuntu install? | 02:30 |
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| AnRkey | can any1 help my with booting ubuntu installer via pxe? | 02:52 |
| pygi | AnRkey, please state the nature of your medical emergency | 02:54 |
| AnRkey | hi pygi | 02:54 |
| AnRkey | trying to boot ubuntu installer via pxe | 02:54 |
| AnRkey | using ris to boot it | 02:55 |
| AnRkey | it's working sortof | 02:55 |
| AnRkey | following this guide | 02:55 |
| AnRkey | http://www.krikkit.net/howtos/boot_debian_installer_images_via_pxe_over_ris.html | 02:55 |
| AnRkey | the initrd.gz file is the root file system right? | 02:56 |
| pygi | RIS= that window thingy | 02:56 |
| AnRkey | yeah | 02:56 |
| pygi | windows* | 02:56 |
| pygi | ergh, /me never worked with that :-/ | 02:56 |
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| pygi | ok, so what's the problem? | 02:57 |
| AnRkey | i can't change the dhcp here to linux so i have to accept winblows | 02:57 |
| AnRkey | well it's booting from the kernel ok | 02:57 |
| AnRkey | but the filesystem is not loading | 02:57 |
| pygi | any error? | 02:57 |
| AnRkey | i don't think the rootimage is the correct file | 02:57 |
| AnRkey | one sec | 02:57 |
| pygi | you got right images for (edu)buntu) | 02:57 |
| pygi | ? | 02:57 |
| AnRkey | is says please append correct "root=" boot option | 02:58 |
| AnRkey | well using ubuntu installer atm not edubuntu | 02:58 |
| AnRkey | but that shouldnt matter | 02:58 |
| pygi | nod | 02:58 |
| AnRkey | http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ << what file is the root image that the howto is saying to use | 02:59 |
| pygi | lemme see if Marty is here :) | 02:59 |
| AnRkey | if i can get this working then i think i can even get ubuntu to boot over the network :D | 02:59 |
| AnRkey | so maybe boot edubuntu off ris | 02:59 |
| AnRkey | just point it to the ubuntu box from ris :D | 03:00 |
| AnRkey | that would make me very happy | 03:00 |
| pygi | yes, yes, I'm hunting Marty :) | 03:00 |
| pygi | wait ^^ | 03:00 |
| pygi | AnRkey, ehm, question ... can you read spanish, or shall I translate to you? | 03:01 |
| AnRkey | one sec | 03:02 |
| pygi | (/me found an article) | 03:02 |
| pygi | AnRkey, tell when you're back ^_^ | 03:04 |
| AnRkey | soz, on phone | 03:04 |
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| frustratedwithed | The out of the box thin-client idea is really not true | 03:05 |
| pygi | :P | 03:06 |
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| pygi | why not? :) | 03:06 |
| frustratedwithed | I have been struggling with a simple set up, where I have an AMD64 box with an eth0 for the thin-client network, eth1 for the internet | 03:07 |
| frustratedwithed | I follow all the instructions I can find, but when | 03:07 |
| frustratedwithed | the clients, which have PXE ethernet cards try to connect, they don] t see the dhcp server | 03:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, have you checked your dhcp server is running? | 03:08 |
| frustratedwithed | again eth0 is reserved is connected to the LTSP terminals switch, and eth1 is connected to the internet through a router | 03:08 |
| pygi | you checked dhcp server, you rebuilded ssh keys, you did all the necessary debugging steps to assure problems is not of any hardware nature, or your misconfiguration of anything? :) | 03:09 |
| frustratedwithed | I did an ifconfig and this is what I get: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:D1:47:14 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | RX packets:142 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | TX packets:149 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | RX bytes:49132 (47.9 KiB) TX bytes:49374 (48.2 KiB) | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | Interrupt:22 Base address:0xd400 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:01:5C:18:B2 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | inet addr:192.168.0.254 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | inet6 addr: fe80::216:1ff:fe5c:18b2/64 Scope:Link | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | 03:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *do not* flood the channel | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | RX packets:3571 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | TX packets:1896 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | RX bytes:3013866 (2.8 MiB) TX bytes:210150 (205.2 KiB) | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | Interrupt:17 Base address:0x4000 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | lo Link encap:Local Loopback | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host | 03:10 |
| pygi | OMG! | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | RX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 03:10 |
| pygi | don't do that ! | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | TX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 | 03:10 |
| frustratedwithed | RX bytes:5672 (5.5 KiB) TX bytes:5672 (5.5 KiB) | 03:10 |
| pygi | dude, dude | 03:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you dont have an ip on eth0... | 03:11 |
| pygi | highvoltage, where's that bot of yours :-/ | 03:11 |
| pygi | plus, don't paste here | 03:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !pastebin | frustratedwithed | 03:11 |
| ubotu | frustratedwithed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 03:11 |
| frustratedwithed | OK, sorry, here is the pasted link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20165/ | 03:13 |
| AnRkey | back | 03:16 |
| AnRkey | pygi, | 03:16 |
| AnRkey | sorry mate | 03:16 |
| pygi | AnRkey, no worries | 03:16 |
| AnRkey | my life is not my own | 03:16 |
| pygi | well, I got an idea how to solve your problem ^_^ | 03:16 |
| AnRkey | do tell | 03:16 |
| AnRkey | :P | 03:16 |
| pygi | you'll have to trust me since I never tried this :P | 03:16 |
| AnRkey | ok, trust installed :D | 03:17 |
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| pygi | ok, so you created all the necessary things like subdirectories (/templates, bla,bla, bla) and whatever? | 03:17 |
| AnRkey | yeah | 03:17 |
| AnRkey | done | 03:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, you have no IP on eth0 | 03:17 |
| AnRkey | it's booting fine too | 03:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so of course dhcp (and therefore clients) arnt working | 03:17 |
| AnRkey | it can't load the root filesystem at this stage though | 03:17 |
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| pygi | got the netboot cd AnRkey ? | 03:18 |
| pygi | (let's just go on pls) | 03:18 |
| AnRkey | no but i can get it quick | 03:18 |
| pygi | ehm, not netboot sec | 03:18 |
| frustratedwithed | Kamping: I don't think you need one, because that is the one serving the DCHP to the LTSP terminals, right? | 03:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, wrong | 03:18 |
| pygi | I meant netboot AnRkey | 03:19 |
| AnRkey | pygi, netboot.tar.gz? | 03:19 |
| pygi | that, yes :) | 03:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you absolutely positively require an ip, and you absoltely positively need it to be a constant one. | 03:19 |
| AnRkey | got it | 03:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | then you need to set DHCP to listen on the subnet you just gave eth0 and restart the service | 03:19 |
| pygi | AnRkey, ok, so you have: \RemoteInstall\Setup\Whatever\Images\PXELinux\i386\templates | 03:19 |
| pygi | uncompress it there | 03:19 |
| frustratedwithed | Kamping: So, now eth0 is set as Roaming Mode Enabled by default by the installer | 03:19 |
| AnRkey | ok giving that a try, brb | 03:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | whatever that means | 03:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i asume its a feistyism | 03:20 |
| pygi | AnRkey, kk | 03:20 |
| mcsd | can someone help I have a tar.gz file I am trying to extract but get this for some files "cannot mknod: Operation not permitted" | 03:20 |
| frustratedwithed | So, if set eth1 to 192.168.0.254, what should eth0 be? | 03:21 |
| pygi | AnRkey, tar xfz netboot.tar.gz should do the trick if you can do it from linux :P | 03:21 |
| pygi | mcsd, tar xvzf bla.tar.gz :) | 03:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, anything not in 192.168.0.0/24 | 03:21 |
| mcsd | xvzf? do you have documentation that explains this? | 03:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | (ie192.168.1.0/24) | 03:22 |
| pygi | mcsd, just try ^^ | 03:22 |
| mcsd | no I trust you just wanted to learn more | 03:22 |
| ogra | mcsd, man tar ;) | 03:22 |
| pygi | indeed ^_^ | 03:22 |
| frustratedwithed | Kamping: I'll try that, thanks | 03:22 |
| pygi | ogra, we're going to get (probably) gPXE book this year, yay :-D | 03:22 |
| ogra | great to see so much going on here while everyone is busy in sevilla | 03:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi ogra . good to see you | 03:25 |
| pygi | well ... a lot more things going behind the scenes ;) | 03:25 |
| pygi | AnRkey, you're supposed to get two issues due to NTFS not supporting symlinks. We'll bypass by copying files: | 03:27 |
| pygi | ./pxelinux.cfg - > ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg | 03:27 |
| pygi | ./pxelinux.0 - > ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.0 | 03:27 |
| pygi | so you know what you need to copy ^_^ | 03:27 |
| pygi | ok, so now we need to create pxelinux.sif in the same templates folder | 03:28 |
| pygi | The archives .sif comprise of the system of remote installation of Windows, are of flat text i indicate the routes to us, labels i others | 03:28 |
| pygi | and you should know how to create one, if not tell me but I'm a bit short on time right now | 03:28 |
| pygi | net stop binlsvc | 03:28 |
| pygi | net start binlsvc | 03:28 |
| pygi | then issue those to restart BINL | 03:29 |
| pygi | after the clients are up: | 03:30 |
| pygi | sudo ifconfig eth0 up | 03:30 |
| pygi | sudo dhclient eth0 | 03:30 |
| pygi | sudo apt-get update | 03:30 |
| pygi | (edit sources.list prior if you need) | 03:30 |
| pygi | and now install whatever your heart desires ^_^ | 03:30 |
| pygi | if this works, please shoot me a mail at mario dot danic at gmail dot com | 03:30 |
| pygi | thanks ^_^ | 03:30 |
| AnRkey | pygi, all done and working | 03:32 |
| AnRkey | that howto needs updating | 03:32 |
| pygi | AnRkey, congrats, thanks :) | 03:32 |
| pygi | AnRkey, don't worry ... I'll write an article ;) | 03:32 |
| AnRkey | this time the paths did not match so i fixed that my moving a few things | 03:32 |
| AnRkey | gonna add a howto to my blog | 03:33 |
| pygi | AnRkey, yes, I told you to do so :P | 03:33 |
| pygi | AnRkey, problem is that symlinks aren't supported on ntfs | 03:33 |
| AnRkey | pygi, if you write one email me the addy | 03:33 |
| AnRkey | pygi, anrkey@gmail.com | 03:33 |
| AnRkey | pygi, thanks so very much mate :D | 03:33 |
| pygi | AnRkey, just email me :) This way I won't remember ;) | 03:33 |
| mcsd | in gnome why do files have a green foot graphic when they are all different file types? | 03:33 |
| pygi | AnRkey, and put your blog link in there as well. You're most welcome ^_^ | 03:33 |
| pygi | glad that experiment worked ;) | 03:33 |
| AnRkey | pygi, pm me your email addy | 03:34 |
| pygi | done | 03:34 |
| AnRkey | well i think allot of people are gonna be happy that this can work | 03:34 |
| pygi | mcsd, because the gnome is all about the foots! | 03:34 |
| AnRkey | cool | 03:34 |
| frustratedwithed | Kimping: I tried what you suggested, but it still didn't work. Here is the pastbin link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20168/ | 03:34 |
| AnRkey | gotta run, my boss is getting restless | 03:34 |
| pygi | AnRkey, well, I can work with you to create a sane article if you wish. | 03:34 |
| AnRkey | later | 03:34 |
| pygi | AnRkey, sure, laters | 03:34 |
| AnRkey | will drop u an email soo | 03:34 |
| AnRkey | n | 03:34 |
| AnRkey | ciao | 03:35 |
| pygi | kk | 03:35 |
| frustratedwithed | Sorry I meant Kamping | 03:36 |
| pygi | frustratedwithed, make sure you've killed all the bugs in your configuration. I'm sure things are not that hard :) | 03:36 |
| pygi | things are relatively trivial when you get to the core of them | 03:37 |
| pygi | :) | 03:37 |
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| frustratedwithed | pygi: thanks for the suggestion. can you be be more specific as to which bugs you refer? Is there a list? | 03:37 |
| pygi | frustratedwithed, in my head usually, yes : | 03:38 |
| pygi | :P | 03:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, pastebin /etc/ltsp/whateverthisfileis, and /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf | 03:38 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser grins. | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | i went over this about 24 hours ago with someoen else ;) | 03:38 |
| frustratedwithed | As for the configuration, I just inserted the AMD64 CD and followed the instructions | 03:38 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser should look up what he said last night | ||
| pygi | frustratedwithed, if you can't fix it by tonight, we'll get it solved then | 03:38 |
| frustratedwithed | Kamping: in a minute | 03:38 |
| pygi | I have to deliver two presentations now, so :OP | 03:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pygi, uds? good luck | 03:39 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, not UDS :) | 03:39 |
| pygi | I'm not there ;) | 03:39 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | pygi, next time perhaps ;) | 03:39 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, nah, didn't apply | 03:40 |
| mcsd | sorry but how do you remove a directory with sub folders and files? | 03:40 |
| pygi | last time I did, was accepted, and didn't go :P | 03:40 |
| pygi | mcsd, rm -rf folder/ | 03:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pygi, hehehe. | 03:40 |
| pygi | mcsd, please do read some manuals ;) | 03:40 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, well, just you laugh ;) | 03:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mcsd, and be *very* careful with -f | 03:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pygi, i will :P | 03:40 |
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| mcsd | pygi sorry I read the rmdir instead | 03:41 |
| pygi | mcsd, don't you worry here. But people might flame, so do read some nice manuals :) | 03:41 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | my world just crashed!!, what the heck happened there >.< | 03:42 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, kick :) | 03:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pygi, i'd apreiciate you not kicking me from my GDM again :P | 03:42 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, agreed, for now :) | 03:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hehe | 03:43 |
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| pygi | well, it's still all the same :) | 03:43 |
| pygi | but some old people left :( | 03:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | apropos + man -K = win | 03:44 |
| pygi | don't get it, but I blame one week of not sleeping :p | 03:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | me? | 03:45 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | apropos+ man -K are ways of searching man pages | 03:45 |
| pygi | ah | 03:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | relevent to your conversation, i feel :) | 03:46 |
| pygi | oh well :P | 03:46 |
| pygi | got it xD | 03:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ;) | 03:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, what was the last thing you said to me? i crahsed out | 03:47 |
| pygi | hehe | 03:47 |
| pygi | he said nothing :P | 03:48 |
| pygi | <frustratedwithed> Kamping: in a minute | 03:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, lol. | 03:48 |
| frustratedwithed | Kamping: here is the pastebin for /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20172/ | 03:49 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, your dhcp server currently listens on your eth1 - where your internet is. you ahve to change it (i'll show you) | 03:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20174/ | 03:51 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, that's a bad way :) | 03:52 |
| pygi | you should have given him a sed line ;) | 03:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pygi, i want to go to bed.... | 03:52 |
| frustratedwithed | Kamping: I'll try that, thanks. I'll be back | 03:52 |
| frustratedwithed | sed line? | 03:53 |
| pygi | frustratedwithed, ignore me :) | 03:53 |
| frustratedwithed | pygi: I am in JST time, where are you? | 03:53 |
| pygi | freet15, GMT+2 right now I think | 03:55 |
| frustratedwithed | Kamping: I tried your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and | 03:55 |
| frustratedwithed | then sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart | 03:55 |
| frustratedwithed | but got the following error | 03:56 |
| frustratedwithed | Address range 192.168.10.50 to 192.168.0.250, netmask 255.255.255.0 spans multiple subnets! | 03:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | then fix it :) | 03:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i made a typo in /your/ config. do your bit and unstuff it :) | 03:58 |
| frustratedwithed | I guess it doesn' t like the 192.168.10.50 to 192.168.0.250, so I'll fix it | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the 10 should be a 1 | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and the 0.250 should be 1.250 | 03:58 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | wonder how i let that slip through | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pygi, i havent recieved it yet :P | 03:58 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, not to you :P | 03:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | </3 :p | 03:59 |
| frustratedwithed | Got it, it restarted, I'll check the clients connections | 04:00 |
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| pygi | laters folks ;) | 04:00 |
| pygi | gotta go | 04:00 |
| pygi | I'm late :p | 04:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | later mate, good luck | 04:00 |
| bddebian | Heya | 04:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bddebian, hi mate | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Hi Kamping_Kaiser | 04:02 |
| frustratedwithed | KK: Great! I am getting somewhere! The client finally sees the DHCP and gets an IP, however, I get an error that it can't find the TFTP file. | 04:10 |
| frustratedwithed | I remember reading somewhere that I have to add a file for the clients somewhere, but I can't remember what or where... | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, you sure you actually followed the instructions for setting stuff up? | 04:11 |
| frustratedwithed | any ideas? | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try sudo ltsp-build-client | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | with whatever options it needs (i dont have an ltsp server handy) | 04:11 |
| frustratedwithed | I have been reading instructions for over a week, thus my screen name | 04:11 |
| frustratedwithed | haven't slept for 3 days straight | 04:12 |
| frustratedwithed | installed 5 times from scratch,.. | 04:12 |
| frustratedwithed | instructions are scarce and all over the place | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | can you link me to hte instructions you were following? | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sounds like they need to be double checked | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sudo ltsp-build-client is all you need by the look of it, it should auto build it | 04:13 |
| frustratedwithed | http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/server.html http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-theory.html etc, etc, etc,... | 04:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm ok | 04:17 |
| frustratedwithed | KK: my server is an AMD64, but my clients are i386. When I sudo ltsp-build-client, I get an error that /opt/lstp/amd64 already exists and should be removed, should I? | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | if your clients are i386 you need to build with --arch=ie86 | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *i386 | 04:19 |
| frustratedwithed | sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386 ??? | 04:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yes | 04:21 |
| frustratedwithed | KK: it is building now, it seems that it will work this time. BTW, I am in Japan trying at a university working with some of my students to try to promote Edubuntu at the JHS and HS here. | 04:23 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, then your in a similar timezone to me. i dont feel so bad about missing my sleep *heh* | 04:25 |
| frustratedwithed | On a different note, is there a way to use VMware to start LTSP clients on Mac/Win2000/XP/Vista? | 04:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have no idea of that one | 04:26 |
| frustratedwithed | I have a lab, with multiple platforms and some of them are pretty good machines I don't want to waste a thin clients | 04:26 |
| frustratedwithed | Which country are you at? | 04:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i susepct you could. you would have to change some NFS server settings, and get the clients to boot through a gateway (i asume thats what vmware would make the hsots) | 04:27 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | frustratedwithed, you can use ltsp to boot the local system | 04:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | australia | 04:27 |
| frustratedwithed | Aussie, heh? | 04:27 |
| frustratedwithed | Cool! | 04:27 |
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| frustratedwithed | What do you mean you can use ltsp to boot the local system? | 04:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you can boot a machine over ltsp into a menu like grub, which will then let you boot a windows computer | 04:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not srue about macs | 04:28 |
| frustratedwithed | Do you meant that I have to start the system as a thin client and then somehow go to the local system? | 04:29 |
| frustratedwithed | Sort of like a dual partition? | 04:29 |
| frustratedwithed | Sorry, dual boot? | 04:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yes. | 04:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no | 04:29 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | you /can/ do that | 04:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you dont /have/ to | 04:29 |
| frustratedwithed | toscalix for dual boot? | 04:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | whats that? | 04:31 |
| frustratedwithed | I don't know. You said <meduxa is now known as toscalix> | 04:32 |
| frustratedwithed | LOL, I see,.... | 04:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 04:32 |
| frustratedwithed | KK: Yeah, it works!!!! | 04:33 |
| frustratedwithed | Thank you very, very, very, very, muuuuuchhhh!!! | 04:34 |
| toscalix | I can make a dual boot. In the mornig I choose beeing a geek or a normal guy | 04:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 04:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what are you atm? | 04:35 |
| toscalix | yes | 04:35 |
| frustratedwithed | LOL | 04:35 |
| frustratedwithed | Wait, something seems to have gone wrong :-( | 04:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :| | 04:36 |
| frustratedwithed | The thin client machine tried to load edubuntu, I got the splash window with the Edubuntu logo and the progress bar, | 04:37 |
| frustratedwithed | but then it went into a single blinking cursor | 04:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sure the chroot finished building? | 04:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | have you run ltsp-update-keys and ltsp-update-kernels ? | 04:38 |
| frustratedwithed | My thin client is a Pentium 3 900Mhz with 318MB memory | 04:38 |
| frustratedwithed | Yes, I got the message LTSP client installation completed successfully | 04:38 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | run those two commands and reboot the client | 04:39 |
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| frustratedwithed | KK: where is the directory for the commands? | 04:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | directory? | 04:40 |
| frustratedwithed | yes, when I sudo ltsp-update-keys I get command not found error | 04:41 |
| frustratedwithed | should I apt-get install them? | 04:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | unless the tool is removed from fesity, thats what you ahve to run | 04:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ah, its sshkeys | 04:43 |
| frustratedwithed | OK, I aproposed ltsp and got ltsp-update-sshkeys, is that what you mean? | 04:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kgoetz@server:~$ ltsp | 04:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ltsp-build-client ltsp-update-kernels | 04:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ltspfs ltsp-update-sshkeys | 04:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so -kernels and -sshkeys is what you need to run | 04:43 |
| frustratedwithed | got it | 04:43 |
| frustratedwithed | I still get the same behavior of single blinking cursor on top-left | 04:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | after running both commands and rebooting the client? | 04:46 |
| frustratedwithed | yeap, I run -kernels and got message about updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386 | 04:47 |
| frustratedwithed | I run the -sshkeys command and got nothing | 04:48 |
| frustratedwithed | then I reboot the client and got the same blinking cursor after splash screen | 04:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm supprised you get nothing, but ok | 04:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | check /var/log/syslog to see if nfs is working | 04:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | infact, restart nfs, its entirely posible it isnt runing | 04:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *running | 04:49 |
| frustratedwithed | It seems to be running | 04:49 |
| frustratedwithed | How do I restart nfs? | 04:51 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart | 04:51 |
| frustratedwithed | stopped [ok] , unexported [ok] , started [ok] will try client again | 04:53 |
| frustratedwithed | KK: same behavior after restart. Noticed some errors in syslog, but too large to for pastebin | 04:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | to large for pastebin? | 04:56 |
| frustratedwithed | I copied a portion into the pastebin where I can see the errors | 04:58 |
| frustratedwithed | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20185/ | 04:59 |
| frustratedwithed | The DHCPDiscover, DHCPOffer, DHCPRequest, DCHPPack sequence goes on for a long time and then it just stops | 05:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you have nfs issues, the dhcp is fine | 05:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i cant help with the nfs though | 05:01 |
| frustratedwithed | KK: thanks, I'll go to bed now and try again in the morning. Thanks for the help, I never thought a splash screen would be enough, but I think I am a lot farther than when I started | 05:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no worries, hope it helps | 05:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *eyes off bed himself* | 05:05 |
| frustratedwithed | In any case, not an out-of-the-box experience, but that definitely educational, thus the name EDUbuntu ;-> | 05:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 05:07 |
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| frustratedwithed | KK: one final question, isn't it possible that eth0 and eth1 are switched some how? | 05:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yes it is | 05:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you can use iftab to swap them around in software. | 05:14 |
| frustratedwithed | That is, eth0 should be the terminal dhcp server and eth1 should be the internet card, right? | 05:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thats how i have it set up at work | 05:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its more logical to me | 05:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you can swap the cables over, and swap the interfaces in iftab and you sholu dbe good to go | 05:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *should be | 05:16 |
| frustratedwithed | just read the man for iftab | 05:17 |
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| frustratedwithed | I guess I am more sleepy than I realize. Do I have to issue an iftab command or change the /etc/iftab file? | 05:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | /etc/iftab. | 05:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure what happens after feisty when it gets removed. probalby gets done in /etc/network/interfaces | 05:19 |
| frustratedwithed | do I need to restart dhcpd? | 05:20 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | after changing the file? | 05:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | all network related services | 05:21 |
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| frustratedwithed | yes | 05:23 |
| frustratedwithed | do I need to restart anything at all? | 05:23 |
| frustratedwithed | No splash this time after restarting client | 05:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | have you switched your network cables? | 05:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm, actually not sure if you should have to | 05:23 |
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| frustratedwithed | I did switch network cables, but just switched them back | 05:24 |
| frustratedwithed | KK: I'll go to sleep now, it is past midnight, maybe you should to. I'll try tomorrow | 05:25 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | past midnight? its 1am | 05:27 |
| Drizzo | it's 5 pm ;-) | 05:31 |
| Drizzo | kind of point of view :) | 05:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :| | 05:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hehe | 05:31 |
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| skipper | Hi everyone, I have a problem | 05:41 |
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| skipper | When I run the Thin Client Manager it pegs the cpu at 100% | 05:42 |
| skipper | I am running 12 terminal server clients on 7.04 | 05:42 |
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| skipper | Without the manager running I am at 20% on cpu usage. | 05:43 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: do you know what happened to the guy that did this: http://hpfteam.free.fr/graphisme-libre/?q=node/23 ? | 05:58 |
| highvoltage | ogra: he seems to be quite talented, perhaps we should pull him in again? | 05:58 |
| ogra | again ? | 05:58 |
| ogra | i dont remember him | 05:58 |
| highvoltage | well, he posted them last year. and in an email I have from him he said he sent those to you | 05:58 |
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| highvoltage | LaserJock: welcome back! | 06:05 |
| skipper | I still need some help | 06:07 |
| Feldegast | where should i upload grub splashscreens for edubuntu? | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: hi | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: have you seen ogra around? | 06:11 |
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| LaserJock | oli! | 06:12 |
| ogra | how was your flight ? | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | long | 06:12 |
| ogra | good to see you made it | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | it was over 24hrs total | 06:12 |
| Feldegast | what does edubuntu use....kde, gnome, xfce....? | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | gnome | 06:12 |
| Feldegast | ty | 06:12 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: I just wanted to say, I marked edubuntu-addon-enhancements as Drafting | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | ogra: because I didn't want it scheduled if the discussion was done | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | but do need to get more info from mvo? | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | I think I could probably draft it with what I have now | 06:14 |
| RichEd | hi HedgeMage | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | hi RichEd | 06:15 |
| RichEd | hello LaserJock ... good to be home ? | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | well, except for I'm flying out in about 7 hrs ... yeah :-) | 06:16 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: ouch! | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | the ouch was that I didn't sleep the night before the flight | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | since I had to get up at 4:00am | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | and I was talking with moquist | 06:18 |
| RichEd | ?? where are you now ... still here at UDS ? | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | no | 06:18 |
| RichEd | at an airport somewhere then / | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | I'm flying with my wife to my little brother's wedding this afternoon | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | I got home late last night | 06:19 |
| RichEd | where is the wedding | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | Montana | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | about 1000 miles away | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | that's why I couldn't stay for all of UDS | 06:19 |
| RichEd | ah ... cowboy territory | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | yep | 06:22 |
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| LaserJock | anybody here from David Trask? | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | I last saw him at the Sevilla airport | 06:24 |
| HedgeMage | hi RichEd | 06:25 |
| HedgeMage | What's up? | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | lots of fun stuff I think | 06:28 |
| HedgeMage | cool | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | they must be doing something right now | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | there were lots of education people | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | schooltool and moodle developers | 06:28 |
| HedgeMage | :) interesting | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | Intel people with their Classmate PC | 06:29 |
| HedgeMage | Very nifty. | 06:29 |
| HedgeMage | I do miss edubuntu... once hubby's out of the army and things settle down I may have more free time (theoretically). | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | awesome | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | we talked a fair amount about edubuntu docs | 06:31 |
| RichEd | LaserJock: intel with *our* classmate pc ;) | 06:35 |
| RichEd | they just make the metal and plastic bits | 06:35 |
| RichEd | we make it eductional | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | there needs to be lots more educational apps developed for it I think | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | lots of things for people to do | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | I hope they're able to build a nice open source development community around it | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu would make an excellent platform for that, IMO | 06:40 |
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| chris-t4 | May I ask what is Edubuntu's plan for the classmate? Will the standard desktop install work well on the machine? | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | it already does | 06:44 |
| chris-t4 | super | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | ogra installed it a couple days ago | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | compiz even works on it | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | there are a couple hardware issues I think, wireless card for instance | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | but it runs without modification | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | but it basically takes all of the storage space | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | so I think the plan is to use a squashfs like a liveCD | 06:46 |
| RichEd | LaserJock: there is a forum wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Sevilla/ClassmatePC | 06:48 |
| RichEd | you will not be able to install a standard edubuntu off a cd | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | maybe eventually if they get 4GB flash disks | 06:49 |
| RichEd | it wil be a special .iso or download or whatever, trimmed for small storage and probably some screen real estate stavings in some configs | 06:49 |
| chris-t4 | Thanks RichEd. I'm interested in this also. | 06:50 |
| RichEd | chris-t4: add yourself to the wiki page if you want news | 06:52 |
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| skipper | Anyone here? | 06:52 |
| highvoltage | /names :) | 06:52 |
| RichEd | skipper: i'm not | 06:53 |
| RichEd | chris-t4: see msg | 06:53 |
| RichEd | how can we help skipper ? | 06:54 |
| skipper | I am running 7.04 and when I try to run the Thin Client Manager it pegs by cpu usage to 100% | 06:54 |
| RichEd | skipper: get into #ltsp and ask there ... the main core people live there, but are at the summit with us in spain | 06:55 |
| chris-t4 | I will try and add myself to the page. | 06:55 |
| skipper | With 12 clients connected and the Thin client Manager not running I run at about 20% cpu usage | 06:55 |
| RichEd | look for ogra, sbalneav, or jammcq | 06:55 |
| RichEd | chris-t4: mail me if you can't : richard@ubuntu.com | 06:56 |
| skipper | Will do, thanks! | 06:56 |
| RichEd | bye for now | 06:57 |
| ogra | RichEd, ? | 06:58 |
| RichEd | yessir mr ogra sir | 06:58 |
| ogra | you pinged | 06:58 |
| RichEd | was looking for help for skipper ... he's now in #ltsp asking there | 06:58 |
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| mpytasz | hi ogra, | 06:59 |
| ogra | ah, ok, we're quite busy here, seems we found the slowdown | 07:00 |
| mpytasz | I have some observations (wacom related), you might be interested in - In Lifebook T4210 (we talked about in Jesi) it does not work out of the box in ubuntu. The solution is development branch of linuxwacom - it is not upported in stable. | 07:01 |
| mpytasz | although 7.04 does boot on it now (in contrast to 6.10 cd) | 07:02 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: did you see my question about the addon CD spec? | 07:03 |
| ogra | LaserJock, all fine, i'll look throuhg it tomorrow, if we're not done yet i'll manage to have a talk with mvo aside ... | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | ok, thanks | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | ok, I'm off | 07:14 |
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| willvdl | HedgeMage, hey | 07:27 |
| HedgeMage | hi willvdl | 07:27 |
| willvdl | RichEd just mentioned you'd be keen to help out on the drupal side :) | 07:28 |
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| HedgeMage | willvdl: sure thing. :) | 07:34 |
| willvdl | HedgeMage, excellent news. | 07:34 |
| HedgeMage | willvdl: I'm busy as heck, but I'd love to make time for edubuntu's Drupal needs... I miss you guys :) | 07:35 |
| willvdl | good. to hear. We're specing some stuff at the mo and hope to make it as bite-sized as possible | 07:36 |
| highvoltage | HedgeMage: howdy! | 07:38 |
| HedgeMage | willvdl: cool. | 07:38 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: howdy :) | 07:38 |
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| nealmcb | Some colleagues of mine in Colorado, US have just started planning a presentation for a Technology in Education conference in Colorado in june: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JimHutchinson | 07:41 |
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| unimatrix9 | hello there | 07:41 |
| nealmcb | I'm wondering what similar info is out there, and if the edubuntu wiki would be a better place to plan this. if so, where? | 07:42 |
| mcsd | is there a good wiki out there for making a live cd? I have this which is very brief using Paul's Boot CD but I cannot seem to make it work http://www.geocities.com/potato.geo/pbcd.html#download | 07:45 |
| mcsd | it keeps telling me /dev/loop1 is not a block device proceed y/n | 07:46 |
| unimatrix9 | mcsd what kind of livecd? | 07:49 |
| unimatrix9 | what would you like to do with the livecd? | 07:50 |
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| mcsd | unimatrix9: I have edubuntu 6.10 installed along with beryl (the cube) and would like to make an live cd image of the install | 08:10 |
| mcsd | I have removed programs from edubuntu like gaim and want to restrict terminal access for general users and add printers and network settings | 08:11 |
| mcsd | !live | 08:12 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install. | 08:12 |
| nealmcb | mcsd: my guess is that #ubuntu would be a better channel for your question. | 08:21 |
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| nealmcb | See Technology in Education conference in Colorado - https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ColoradoTIE - I moved the information from the page I pointed to before. | 09:09 |
| pygi | Kamping_Kaiser, did you solve that dude's problem? :) | 09:12 |
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| yimmmmy | help s\logical disk error o | 09:12 |
| yimmmmy | and squashfserror | 09:13 |
| yimmmmy | dont know hwat to do | 09:13 |
| yimmmmy | :("""" | 09:13 |
| yimmmmy | ubutu screen loads but then frezes and mouse wont move | 09:13 |
| yimmmmy | can any one help me | 09:14 |
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| imjones | helllo | 09:20 |
| imjones | i need help bad | 09:20 |
| imjones | i got a squash error and logical disk error i dont know what they mean | 09:21 |
| imjones | ???????????? | 09:21 |
| imjones | hello | 09:22 |
| HedgeMage | imjones: I think everyone's out to lunch... activity should pick up again in a little while | 09:23 |
| imjones | crap | 09:23 |
| imjones | i neeed help | 09:23 |
| imjones | i dont wnat my pc to be a 345 ound door stop | 09:23 |
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| pygi | yay, can receive messages now :P | 09:51 |
| imjones | hello | 09:52 |
| imjones | i neeed help | 09:53 |
| imjones | i got a squash error and logical disk error i dont know what they mean | 09:53 |
| imjones | i neeed help | 09:53 |
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| pygi | imjones, perhaps broken cd | 09:53 |
| pygi | please, pretty please be patient ;) | 09:53 |
| imjones | ok | 09:54 |
| imjones | is logical disc the cd | 09:54 |
| imjones | ? | 09:54 |
| pygi | perhaps. I have no idea what your exact error is, neither I'm the expert here | 09:54 |
| pygi | I'm just little someone who knows nothing | 09:54 |
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| imjones | oh cuase i got it on 3 hdds | 09:56 |
| imjones | so | 09:56 |
| imjones | it must be | 09:56 |
| imjones | is there any experts here i acn talk to | 09:56 |
| pygi | "you got it on 3hdds" would mean what? :P | 09:57 |
| pygi | everyone is busy | 09:58 |
| pygi | you can't just expect to find people sitting here | 09:58 |
| pygi | doing nothing | 09:58 |
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| pygi | ah | 09:58 |
| pygi | people are weird | 09:58 |
| nealmcb | :-) | 09:59 |
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| pygi | hi cbx33 | 11:12 |
| cbx33 | hey pygi | 11:13 |
| pygi | how goes it? | 11:14 |
| cbx33 | I need to open a quark express document | 11:16 |
| pygi | ah :) | 11:22 |
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