[12:12] <JeffAMcGee> Howdy,
[12:13] <kel3> hi
[12:13] <kel3> who can help me?
[12:14] <epimeth> kel3: we won't know until you ask your question :-)
[12:14] <dogatemycomputer> kel3: what seems to be the problem?  the problem will determine if we can help..
[12:14] <kel3> ok
[12:14] <kel3> so
[12:15] <epimeth> one thing I gotta say about these newfangled optical mice... my old fashined wheel mouse never jumped around the screen randomly... grrr...
[12:15] <kel3> i installed kubuntu not time ago
[12:16] <navets> If i start a new session everytime, katapult wont automatically start for me
[12:16] <s1icknick> im accessing .doc/.xls files thru a samba share, but am unable to open them without first saving locally. .txt, .pdf and other files open without a problem.  any ideas?
[12:16] <kel3> and i have another hdd
[12:16] <epimeth> thats odd... it does for me... add it to your ~/.kde/Autostart/
[12:16] <kel3> but i don't know how to enter to it
[12:16] <navets> ok i will
[12:17] <epimeth> s1icknick: are they locked?  smb knows to lock files that are in use...
[12:17] <dogatemycomputer> kel3: what are you trying to accomplish?  do you just want to access the files on it?
[12:17] <kel3> yes
[12:17] <kel3> i want to acces to the hdd but i dont see it
[12:18] <epimeth> kel3: is it full of windows partitions?
[12:18] <epimeth> kel3: specifically, ntfs ones?
[12:18] <kel3> mmm... it's all ntfs....
[12:18] <epimeth> !ntfs
[12:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:18] <dogatemycomputer> kel3:  well.. you should be able to shutdown your machine, connect the drive to another controller, enable cable select on the drive, boot Kubutu and access the files via /media/diskname
[12:18] <epimeth> !ntfs-3g
[12:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:18] <dogatemycomputer> thanks epimeth
[12:19] <epimeth> kel3: that second link will let you write to them as well as read
[12:19] <kel3> thaks
[12:19] <epimeth> kel3: the first one is for just reading
[12:19] <epimeth> kel3: bottom line, installing ntfs-config should be enough
[12:19] <kel3> so i must to set my hdd in cable select?
[12:19] <s1icknick> epimeth: how would i tell if they are 'locked' ? im using my domain credentials to access the share no problem.
[12:20] <JeffAMcGee> I'm running kubuntu feisty, and I  just upgraded my computer a lot (It might be more accurate to say I put my old harddrive in a new computer)
[12:20] <epimeth> but you have to change the "gksu" to "kdesu" in the shortcut on your K-Menu
[12:20] <navets> sorry im not sure how to edit ~/.kde/Autostart/
[12:20] <navets> do i type sudo kate ~/.kde/Autostart/ ?
[12:20] <JeffAMcGee> I'm haveing a lot of little hardware problems.  Is there anything I need to do to update everything?
[12:20] <epimeth> s1icknick: try restarting the samba server
[12:20] <epimeth> s1icknick: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[12:20] <JeffAMcGee> Do I need to reinstall?
[12:20] <epimeth> navets: no, its a folder
[12:20] <TheDebugger> navets: That's a folder
[12:20] <navets> oh ok
[12:21] <TheDebugger> navets: Put scripts or symlinks in there
[12:21] <dogatemycomputer> navets: Autostart is a directory..  so basically you create symbolic links in Autostart to the apps you want to load
[12:21] <epimeth> navets: add a symlink to it
[12:21] <epimeth> navets: $ln -s /usr/bin/katapult katapult
[12:21] <epimeth> navets: erm... no
[12:21] <epimeth> navets: only if you are in the folder already :-)
[12:22] <dogatemycomputer> just try "man ln" .. and someone correct me.. isn't it "ln -s ~.kde/Autostart/nameoflink /usr/bin/nameofapp" ??
[12:22] <epimeth> otherwise, its:
[12:22] <epimeth> navets: $ln -s /usr/bin/katapult ~/.kde/Autostart/katapult
[12:22] <s1icknick> erm ... epimeth : /etc/init.d/samba does not exist.
[12:22] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: ln -s TARGET LINKNAME
[12:22] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: yeah.. that :)
[12:22] <navets> lol im not to sure whats going on, am i trying to add katapult to the autostart folder?
[12:22] <epimeth> s1icknick: is the smb server a kubuntu box?
[12:23] <epimeth> navets: yes :-)
[12:23] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: we've been conditioned to think "source target" .. so I always get it backwards when its "target source"
[12:23] <s1icknick> no no no :P
[12:23] <s1icknick> the samba share sits on a windows domain
[12:23] <s1icknick> the share is on a windows box
[12:23] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: and before I man something I always --help it... do the words TLDR mean anything to you? :-)
[12:24] <epimeth> s1icknick: ohhh.... right... so go to the windows box and check if its locked?  not sure how to do that, tho... ask if anyone in the office is using the file,
[12:24] <s1icknick> nah the files are not locked
[12:24] <s1icknick> but ill check that link you referred toi
[12:24] <epimeth> s1icknick: what link?
[12:25] <s1icknick> err those were both for kel3 ?
[12:25] <s1icknick> [15:18]  <epimeth> !ntfs
[12:25] <epimeth> s1icknick: yup... one was for reading ntfs partitions on local machine, the other was for writing them
[12:25] <epimeth> writing *to* them
[12:25] <epimeth> but again, thats local partitions
[12:25] <s1icknick> ok so i have a question
[12:26] <epimeth> what happens if you create a new excel file and try to open it?
[12:26] <s1icknick> if i mount a samba share ... does it actually pull down every file from that share and store/save locally ?
[12:27] <s1icknick> i think its the problem of opening it while using konquerer to view the samba share
[12:27] <epimeth> s1icknick: mounting means that you create a link to it from a local point. you read/write from the device itself... so, no :-)
[12:27] <epimeth> s1icknick: I somehow doubt that.  again, try creating a new excel file on the share and opening it.
[12:28] <epimeth> cuz if that works then the file you are trying to open is off limits to you.. maybe permissions are wrong somehow?
[12:28] <s1icknick> i own the files
[12:28] <s1icknick> ok so this is what i did. opened openoffice program first
[12:28] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: yea, seriously... I always have to check... I wonder why ln is backwards?
[12:29] <s1icknick> then navigated to the smb share, and i get the error when i try to open: protocol "smb" is support only partially. local copy of the file will be created"
[12:30] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: it was probably written by a chinese guy ;)
[12:30] <dogatemycomputer> he read TARGET first.. and that's how he wrote the app :)
[12:31] <epimeth> s1icknick: hrm... maybe openoffice doesn't support it for some reason... I've never tried.  try googling "OpenOffice samba share"
[12:31] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: what does't openoffice support?  I missed the discussion?
[12:31] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: is he trying to save a file to a samba share from within Office?
[12:31] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: nah, chinese don't write rtl... it was probably an israeli
[12:31] <dogatemycomputer> lol
[12:32] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: no, he's trying to open an xls file from a samba share from within openoffice
[12:32] <s1icknick> epimeth: thanks brotha!
[12:32] <s1icknick> appreciuate the ideas and suggestions
[12:32] <s1icknick> just looking for some direction
[12:32] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: its telling him to create a local copy first....
[12:32] <epimeth> s1icknick: no worries, mate... good luck :-)
[12:33] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: that is correct
[12:33] <navets> ok i think i figured out how to create a symlink but now i just need to know how to get to the folder ~/.kde/Autostart/
[12:33] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth:  you have to save the document then use KDE's file manager to copy it back to the samba share unless you mount the samba share first.
[12:33] <navets> lol i kinda feel really noobish
[12:33] <epimeth> navets: I told you already! :-)
[12:33] <dogatemycomputer> navets: cd /home/<yourusername>/.kde/Autostart
[12:34] <dogatemycomputer> navets: that should work..
[12:34] <epimeth> navets: $ln -s /usr/bin/katapult ~/.kde/Autostart/katapult
[12:34] <navets> k thanks guys
[12:34] <epimeth> navets: ~ is /home/<you>
[12:34] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: that doesn't tell him how to chnage to the directory..  which i think is a great learning experience..
[12:34] <navets> ahh i see
[12:34] <epimeth> navets: so... $cd ~    is the same as $cd /home/<you>
[12:35] <epimeth> and .kde is a hidden folder... any file/folder begining with . is hidden
[12:35] <dogatemycomputer> navets:  how I learned is to go "cd /home/myusername" .. then type "cd .k" then press tab twice.. it'll show you a list of all the hidden files that start with ".k" .. then type enough to finish the statement..
[12:35] <epimeth> navets: I love tab autocompletion :-)
[12:36] <navets> ha i see i got there
[12:36] <navets> i have nothin in my autostart folder lol
[12:36] <epimeth> navets: ya... the only thing in mine is katapult
[12:37] <dogatemycomputer> navets: most of us don't keep anything in that folder.  Most apps just get reloaded along with our profile.
[12:37] <epimeth> wow.... .directory is a cool little file
[12:37] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: are you being funny? :)
[12:37] <epimeth> you know... I absolutely love that linux has everything UTF-8... windows is such a bitch when it comes to encoding
[12:37] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: nope... I just never noticed it before
[12:38] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: yeah.. its one of the first things I noticed..which is interesting becacuse, i believe, it is what tells the O/S that its a directory with a link to the physical location on the drive..
[12:38] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: its pretty engenius..
[12:39] <dogatemycomputer> hey.. does anyone know how to start a torrent download from the command prompt?
[12:39] <dogatemycomputer> (over ssh)
[12:39] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: yea... check out rtorrent
[12:39] <epimeth> I don't think ktorrent has a command line interface
[12:40] <dogatemycomputer> i wonder if I have to kill ktorrent first?
[12:40] <dogatemycomputer> next question I have is.. is there a text based web browser I can download?
[12:40] <dogatemycomputer> so I can check my gmail from the command line..
[12:41] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: I'm not sure you are correct about .directory... the one I have in Autostart has "Autostart" in every language... I think it tells it what to name the folder in other locales
[12:41] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: lynx
[12:41] <epimeth> !lynx
[12:41] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[12:41] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: you are a fast source of information..
[12:42] <epimeth> its 0140 and I have nothing better to do than sit here and answer questions... its also a great way to learn
[12:42] <epimeth> plus, I got AIC: MTV unplugged and RadioHead: OK Computer playing... I can't just leave :-)
[12:43] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: there is no way you can pull gmail up on that, tho... but nobody will blame you for trying
[12:43] <epimeth> :-)
[12:43] <dogatemycomputer> epimeth: that's how i'm learning..
[12:43] <epimeth> dogatemycomputer: I'm telling you, I'm here like 24/7
[12:44] <epimeth> problem is, I'm also learning that there are very few people who actually know anything about the really tough stuff... and they are rarely here.  and then there are those who know everything about everything EXCEPT for the one little thing I need :-)
[12:44] <kgx> hey. lets say i wanted count the total number of lines across all files in a directory (except exclude directories called .svn), how would i do this? can someome please write me a quick script
[12:45] <epimeth> but for that there are other channels on freenode... this is like *the* GPL irc server
[12:46] <epimeth> why isn't whois installed by default? hrmph
[12:46] <epimeth> kgx hold up a sev
[12:46] <epimeth> kgx: you want all files in all directories?
[12:47] <kgx> epimeth: yes
[12:47] <acidBURN> how does one find out what driver is being used for the pcmcia wireless card ?
[12:47] <kgx> epimeth: i wanna see how many lines of code our workflow application is ;-)
[12:48] <epimeth> erg... this is a little more than a quick script.. I totally don't remember how to traverse directories.... but what you want is to check out wc -l
[12:49] <kgx> epimeth: thanks
[12:49] <JeffAMcGee> kgx: If you want to go through multiple directories I reccomend find and xargs
[12:49] <epimeth> wc -l * will give you total of all files in a directory
[12:49] <epimeth> so you can run that recursively on all the files and save the total...
[12:50] <epimeth> save the running total*
[12:50] <epimeth> JeffAMcGee: hrm... yea... find -exec wc -l *
[12:51] <epimeth> redirect that into some file, then traverse that file and add up all the numbers...
[12:51] <dogatemycomputer> I mounted the file system using sshfs and downloaded the link to my home desktop.. then started RTorrent from there..
[12:51] <dogatemycomputer> I need to screw with that though..
[12:51] <epimeth> kgx: check out find's manpage... its a little complicated at first but you should be able to figure it out pretty quick
[12:52] <acidBURN> need some help with getting driver info.
[12:52] <kgx> thanks epimeth JeffAMcGee
[12:54] <epimeth> wouldn't it be great if searching google for "man <programname>" would send you straight to the manpage?
[12:54] <Jucato> epimeth: something like man:/ in Konqueror?
[12:54] <Alonea> I seem to be having a lot of problems with mounting and umounting lately. My thum drives are no longer automounting and I could not eject my cd drive
[12:55] <epimeth> Jucato: yes, exactly!
[12:55] <epimeth> Jucato: why you always gotta make me feel bad? huh?
[12:55] <Jucato> :P
[12:55] <Alonea> I had to stick a in the little hole to eject the disk and it didn't mount again when I put a different disk in there. What's going on?
[12:56] <Alonea> there is also a locked folder called My Book now in my /media folder too. My Book is my external hdd, but its not even plugged in at the moment
[12:58] <Alonea> the only thing new that I have put on my system is Vmware server.
[12:59] <epimeth> is there any way to redirect stdout to the arguments of the redirected to program?
[01:00] <Jucato> O.o
[01:01] <epimeth> hrmph... wc doesn't take stdin arguments... I keep getting the amount of files instead of all of their lengths :-)
[01:01] <Ireclan> Need help...
[01:02] <Jucato> epimeth: might want to try poking around in #bash
[01:02] <Ireclan> My resolution is wrong...
[01:02] <Ireclan> Where can I change it?
[01:02] <epimeth> Ireclan: you got a widescreen laptop?
[01:02] <Ireclan> epimeth: No.
[01:02] <epimeth> Ireclan: K-menu -> System Settings -> Monitor & display
[01:03] <Ireclan> I just logged in and suddenly it was wrong...
[01:03] <MyNameIsBob> hi everyone
[01:04] <MyNameIsBob> is there a channel for amarok?
[01:04] <Jucato> MyNameIsBob: yes. it's #amarok :)
[01:04] <epimeth> lol
[01:04] <epimeth> that was easy
[01:04] <Jucato> MyNameIsBob: but it's a low traffic channel so don't expect much
[01:05] <epimeth> why?  I got help there pretty fast....
[01:05] <Jucato> (but the devs are usually there, if not on coffee break/sleep)
[01:05] <MyNameIsBob> lol, thx
[01:06] <Jucato> epimeth: it varies from time to time. depending on the time of day and timezone
[01:06] <Ireclan> Guys...It won't let me change my resolution...
[01:06] <Ireclan> Should I edit Xorg.conf?
[01:06] <Jucato> !xconfig
[01:07] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[01:08] <Ireclan> Jucato: How do I know what my refresh rate and driver is supposed to be?
[01:08] <Jucato> not sure about the refresh rate, but the driver depends on your video card
[01:08] <OptimusRex> my adept installer keeps crashing
[01:09] <OptimusRex> tried installing firefox but it shut down
[01:09] <Alonea> Jucato: you know anything about my dysfunctional mounting problem?
[01:09] <Ireclan> Jucato: How do I find my video card?
[01:09] <SlimeyPete> I find adept a bit unstable, myself. I use synaptic instead.
[01:09] <Jucato> Alonea: um.. no...
[01:09] <Fahuadai> Ireclan: 60hz is usually safe default
[01:09] <Jucato> Ireclan: uh? hmm...
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> "lspci | grep vga" may show you your video card
[01:10] <Alonea> Jucato: just wondering...have no idea why it wont automount anything anymore.
[01:10] <Ireclan> Fahuadai: Thanks.
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> sorry... "lspci | grep VGA"
[01:10] <Jucato> Ireclan: try "lspci | grep -i vga"
[01:10] <jasper> after installing the latest nvidia drivers and beryl, when I try to initialize it I get an error.. would someone be able to help?
[01:11] <acidBURN> how does one display a version of madwifi driver
[01:11] <OptimusRex> Please help with this as now adept says another program cold be using the packaging service yet it shut down and I cannot see it on the desktops. How do I make sure the earlier opened instance of Adept has close fully?
[01:12] <Jucato> !adeptfix | OptimusRex
[01:12] <ubotu> OptimusRex: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:13] <epimeth> jasper: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-effects
[01:13] <epimeth> jasper: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[01:13] <kilrae> anybody know why moving then moving back the digikam database fixes it after a crash?
[01:14] <epimeth> kilrae: probably cuz it unlocks any locked file....
[01:15] <OptimusRex> this is what I get
[01:15] <OptimusRex> Setting up java-common (0.25ubuntu2) ...
[01:15] <OptimusRex> Setting up libnspr4 (1.firefox2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2) ...
[01:15] <OptimusRex> Setting up libnss3 (1.firefox2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2) ...
[01:15] <OptimusRex> optimus@VampireRex:~$
[01:15] <Jucato> OptimusRex: ok then try opening Adept again. it should be ok now
[01:16] <OptimusRex> thanks. Let me try
[01:16] <Ireclan> Well....here goes nothing...
[01:17] <OptimusRex> Is there anyway I can get a record of past conversations to keep because I would like to remember the command lines?
[01:18] <Jucato> OptimusRex: Konversation is setup to keep logs by default. Window menu -> Open Logfile
[01:18] <epimeth> OptimusRex: yes... create a file where you keep interesting commands you've learned! :-)  that way you don't have to go through much of the mindless drivel that goes on around here...
[01:18] <Jucato> the text file is saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs
[01:19] <Jucato> (or it should be logging by default...)
[01:19] <OptimusRex> Thanks for the great advice epimeth
[01:19] <OptimusRex> I like drivel
[01:20] <OptimusRex> just apropriate for this cheers
[01:21] <shmeelAway> anyone know of a program that can get the fingerprint scanner on my laptop working?
[01:22] <Amerbadden> Wow...
[01:22] <epimeth> shmeelAway: there is something in development, but nothing ready for proper work yet...
[01:22] <Amerbadden> My other nickname is still here.
[01:22] <epimeth> shmeelAway: lemme check...
[01:23] <Amerbadden> Guys, how can I kill Ireclan?
[01:23] <shmeelAway> alright thanks epimeth
[01:23] <Amerbadden> And assume that identity?
[01:23] <shmeelAway> ./ns ghost password
[01:23] <shmeelAway> i think
[01:24] <jasper> anyone know how I can get beryl working? nothing seems to work
[01:25] <epimeth> shmeelAway: http://gkall.hobby.nl/authentec.html
[01:25] <Ireclan> Thankyou, shmeel|Away...
[01:25] <epimeth> shmeelAway: you have a Lenovo?
[01:25] <shmeelAway> vaio sz
[01:25] <Ireclan> OK, I have another question..
[01:26] <Ireclan> How do I change the single-click open file behavior to doubleclick?
[01:26] <epimeth> shmeelAway: whats the full name of it?
[01:26] <epimeth> shmeelAway: I'm testing the laptoptestingteam 's page...
[01:27] <shmeelAway> sony vaio VGN-SZ140p
[01:28] <epimeth> shmeelAway: doesn't look like anyone tested it yet...
[01:28] <epimeth> shmeelAway: do some google searches... afaik nothing is ready for public use, but some people have got it working
[01:29] <shmeelAway> hmm, alright
[01:29] <epimeth> shmeelAway: I'm not bothering with mine until I can get it working with a simple apt-get :-)
[01:29] <shmeelAway> lol, yea, that would be great
[01:37] <makuseru> how can i extract a .7 archive
[01:38] <Ireclan> Anyone know how to change KDE's single click to open files to a double click?
[01:38] <Jucato> Ireclan: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[01:38] <TheDebugger> Ireclan: How about looking in the mouse's properties in the panel...
[01:39] <Jucato> makuseru: you mean a .7z file? try installing 7zip
[01:39] <makuseru> yes
[01:39] <makuseru> that
[01:39] <makuseru> is it in the repos?
[01:39] <Jucato> or p7zip
[01:39] <Jucato> let me check
[01:39] <Jucato> !info p7zip
[01:39] <ubotu> p7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.43~dfsg.1-1 (feisty), package size 315 kB, installed size 948 kB
[01:39] <Jucato> makuseru: yep ^^^^^
[01:39] <dope> does anyone have any experience with gnump3d?
[01:40] <dope> also is there a way to see when the latest update for a program was applied?
[01:40] <makuseru> thanks Jucato
[01:41] <dope> anyone
[01:48] <K-Ryan> Good evening everybody!
[01:50] <K-Ryan> Awfully quiet tonight.
[01:52] <Nai1z> How can I change the default window manager to kde as I have Ubuntu and Kubuntu and I think I chose to use GDM, anyone?
[01:54] <K-Ryan> Hmm, I haven't done that before but give me a sec and I'll take a look.
[01:54] <Nai1z> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm?
[01:54] <K-Ryan> Don't know, sorry.
[01:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody have evolution 2.10 installed? I can't get the help file to work. I was wondering  if somebody has a fix for it.
[01:54] <K-Ryan> I'm not super experienced, but I know how to get around and do quite a bit.
[01:54] <Nai1z> got it from google :)
[01:54] <K-Ryan> Anyone else in this giant room feel free to jump in at any time.
[01:54] <Nai1z> restarting x wish me luck :D
[01:55] <K-Ryan> Good luck!
[01:55] <K-Ryan> !evolution
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <K-Ryan> hmm
[01:56] <dogatemycomputer> gundam_rx78nt1: are you using evoltuionthat comes iwth Kubuntu?
[01:56] <K-Ryan> Dinner's ready =), be back later guys. Good luck with that gundam_rx78nt1
[01:57] <Nai1z> (joy!)
[01:58] <Alonea> I seem to be having a lot of problems with mounting and umounting lately. My thumb drives are no longer automounting and I could not eject my cd drive without sticking a pin in the little hole on my drive to force it to eject. Also now have a locked folder called My Book which is my external hdd, but its not even plugged in now.
[01:58] <dogatemycomputer> Alonea: you can mount it manually though.. right?
[01:59] <Lam_> my torrents don't open correctly with azureus
[01:59] <Lam_> it stalls out or something
[01:59] <Lam_> is there something special that i have to "open with" other than "azureus"?
[02:01] <premier_> I'm trying to find config files for the kde screen locker.  Does anyone know what the program is called?
[02:02] <cabled_> my main login account has a keyboard problem after typeing in the password and the desktop starts but the keyboard wont take any input i cant even change num lock any ideas how to fix my keyboard not working problem? i found this with midnight commander > !platform-i8042-serio0-event-kbd this was in the main directory of the user the keyboards not working in
[02:04] <dogatemycomputer> Lam_: there is a "stall" message that appears when the torrent first negotiates the conection..
[02:05] <dogatemycomputer> Lam_: have you opened the correct ports on your firewall?
[02:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> dogatemycomputer: yes I am using the standard package.
[02:06] <ubuntu> hello
[02:06] <Lam_> dogatemycomputer: the torrents open fine if i drag and drop them into azureus, but i can't get it to open azureus when i click on the torrent file itself. i have to always drag and drop
[02:06] <dogatemycomputer> gundam_rx78nt1: the copy of Open Office that comes with Kubuntu is heavily customized and therefore unstable and includes many bugs that really shouldn't exist or are poorly documented
[02:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am asking about Evolution 2.10.
[02:07] <dogatemycomputer> gundam_rx78nt1: If you really want it to work properly then your best bet is to uninstall Open Office and install it directly from openoffice.org.  Did you want the instruction?
[02:07] <dogatemycomputer> gundam_rx78nt1: otherwise I don't know why the help file wouldn't load..
[02:07] <jolly> ubuntustudio is delayed. dang.
[02:08] <dogatemycomputer> Lam_: in that case the association isn't setup correctly.  I'm not sure what it should look like.  You can *try* using adept and reinstalling the package.  That's about the only suggestion.  I use ktorrent which works really well..
[02:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> dogatemycomputer: I think we are talking about 2 different things. I am asking about Evolution 2.10 not open office.
[02:08] <Lam_> dogatemycomputer: alright thanks
[02:09] <dogatemycomputer> gundam_rx78nt1: same problem..  just replace OpenOffice with Evolution :)
[02:09] <jolly> i makes me frustrated that i may not come out this year. so that ive heard form people
[02:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> well, looking at the bug reports, it is not just the one in Kubuntu or Ubuntu. It's across the whole board.
[02:10] <dogatemycomputer> gundam_rx78nt1: heck.. I couldn't even keep the Evolution Exchange plugin/backend from stable without removing Kubuntu's version of Evolution and installing it directly from Evolution's website.
[02:11] <premier_> I'm trying to get my multimedia keys to work even when the screen is locked.  Do any of you have any ideas or can point me in the right direction?
[02:16] <jago> HELP!!!! Adept crashed and now it won't run. how can i make it work?
[02:16] <NightBird> !fixadept
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <Yorokobi> !fixadept | jago
[02:16] <NightBird> !adeptfix
[02:16] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:16] <Yorokobi> ah, adeptfix
[02:16] <NightBird> !adeptfix | jago
[02:16] <ubotu> jago: please see above
[02:16] <NightBird> yeah
[02:16] <NightBird> I can never remember what it is... they should duplicate it for fixadept as well
[02:16] <jago> WOW thanks alot
[02:17] <dogatemycomputer> wow.. talk about watching you guys/gals spring into action!!
[02:17] <NightBird> I mean, they have 3 to 4 other methods to trigger it
[02:17] <Yorokobi> !fix adept
[02:17] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:17] <NightBird> heh
[02:17] <drkns> hello again
[02:17] <NightBird> hi
[02:17] <drkns> i need help with ndiswrapper
[02:18] <drkns> i have set up and installed my wireless driver successfully
[02:18] <dogatemycomputer> drkns: wb!!
[02:18] <NightBird> ok
[02:18] <drkns> it sees the driver and says
[02:18] <drkns> usrmaxg : driver installed
[02:18] <drkns>         device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[02:18] <drkns> but no lights come up
[02:19] <drkns> and when i iwconfig nothing comes up
[02:19] <drkns> only eth0 which is my lan
[02:19] <NightBird> drkns, you may need to remove bcm43xx from your modprobe
[02:19] <drkns> i blacklisted bcm43xx
[02:20] <drkns> is it rmmodprobe bcm43xx ???
[02:20] <jtt> how do I list the files in a package that is not installed on my machine,  i.e. it is still in the repository
[02:20] <NightBird> did you restart since you added it to the black list?
[02:20] <OptimusRex> Just installed firefox and now it is hanging. Any idea on how I can shut it down?
[02:21] <drkns> yes i did and i also removed the card and put back in
[02:21] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: killall firefox-bin
[02:21] <jago> Thanks to all!! Did as ubotu said "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" and it worked great, thanks again
[02:21] <NightBird> hm....
[02:21] <NightBird> congrats jago!
[02:21] <OptimusRex> how do I execute killall firefox-bin
[02:21] <NightBird> OptimusRex, in the console
[02:21] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: via Konsole
[02:22] <drkns> so how can i remove it from modprobe???
[02:22] <OptimusRex> do I sudo first
[02:22] <Yorokobi> no
[02:22] <n8k99> OptimusRex: or in yakuake
[02:22] <dogatemycomputer> sudo killall firefox-bin
[02:22] <n8k99> no need to sudo
[02:22] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: not if you ran it as a regular user. If you started FF as root, then yes, sudo
[02:22] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, I'm back =)
[02:22] <NightBird> drkns, it's probably been removed, it's just that ndiswrapper is noting that it can use that driver
[02:22] <NightBird> it doesn't mean it is...
[02:23] <dogatemycomputer> n
[02:23] <drkns> so still no lights i will try another restart
[02:23] <OptimusRex> Thanks for that. It worked. Cheers
[02:25] <OptimusRex> there is something making firefox hang and crash and I am suspecting forecast fox. Is there anyone with this problem or anyone who has seen this?
[02:27] <drkns> yes hello again and i need genuine help
[02:27] <drkns> i restarted and still no wireless card can be seen eventhough i installed the driver via ndiswrapper
[02:27] <drkns> and ndiswrapper sees  driver instaled
[02:27] <OptimusRex> just had firefox crash again. Is there any way of uninstalling extensions?
[02:28] <K-Ryan> drkns I know it may not be much help, but someone said that there are a multitude of wireless things that you can try until you find one that works.
[02:28] <K-Ryan> Certain programs and stuff, good luck with the situation. My friend is having the same problem on his laptop.
[02:29] <jrick> I have installed VisualBoyAdvance, and am able to run VBA games with it through the terminal.  I also heard about a frontend to it, called kvisualboyadvance.  I installed the sources with Kompile (couldn't find a deb), but cannot find the command necessary to run it. Can anyone help?
[02:29] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: yeah, in Konsole, ' cd .mozilla/firefox' then 'ls' to find the hash for your profile
[02:29] <drkns> couple days ago before i mess up my system while compiling gimp it work perfectly
[02:29] <K-Ryan> jrick i think whatever you ./make it is what you use.
[02:29] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: inside that has is a folder for forecastfox that you can 'rm -rf' or you can nuke other extensions
[02:29] <K-Ryan> I think, I haven't compiled much so don't quote me.
[02:30] <jrick> K-Ryan: um, that means nothing to me, I installed it with Kompile.
[02:30] <K-Ryan> Oh, right
[02:30] <jrick> it installed fine, I just need the path
[02:31] <drkns> bye all
[02:31] <jrick> should I install it with the terminal?
[02:31] <K-Ryan> It would compile wherever you downloaded it to unless you specified otherwise I believe.
[02:31] <Yorokobi> jrick: do you know the name of the binary you want to use?
[02:31] <OptimusRex> will give it a try thanks
[02:31] <K-Ryan> He's looking for a graphical version of VisualBoy if I'm not mistaken.
[02:31] <jrick> no, I tried kvba and kvisualboyadvance, but neither worked
[02:31] <K-Ryan> He got it and used Kompile to compile the source but is having trouble from that point.
[02:31] <K-Ryan> Neither worked as in what? What was the problem?
[02:32] <jrick> but, they could be called that, just not in /usr/bin/
[02:32] <Yorokobi> jrick: you can use 'sudo updatedb' then locate <whatever>
[02:32] <Yorokobi> jrick: check /usr/local/ as well
[02:33] <OptimusRex> cd.mozilla/firefox is giving command not found
[02:33] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: you need a space
[02:33] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: cd .mozilla/firefox
[02:34] <Neil-> SABNzbd doesnt support http proxy does it?
[02:34] <Neil-> Anyone know of another news reader?
[02:34] <Neil-> Wanted http proxy for sab so it could grab nzbs from newzbin..
[02:34] <jrick> locate kvba didn't return anything.
[02:34] <Neil-> !usenet
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <Neil-> Anyone know a good ubuntu newsreader?
[02:35] <LjL> kontact?
[02:35] <jrick> and can't seem to find anything in /usr/local/
[02:36] <jrick> oh good, found it in /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kvisualboyadvance
[02:37] <pheaver> if i just wanna add a module in my kernel, rather than recompile the kernel, I can just do "make modules && make modules_install" right?
[02:38] <jrick> i was wrong, the binary is /usr/local/kde/bin/kvisualboyadvance
[02:38] <jrick> it's running now!
[02:38] <pheaver> or do i have to use make-kpkg?
[02:38] <jrick> thanks!
[02:39] <OptimusRex> ok. Got /.mozilla/firefox$
[02:39] <OptimusRex> what do I do next, please
[02:40] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: use 'ls' and you'll see a long-named directory (an alphanumeric hash)
[02:40] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: cd to that dir
[02:41] <OptimusRex> there are some files in the list that are in blue. What does that mean?
[02:42] <cabled_> my main login account has a keyboard problem after typeing in the password and the desktop starts but the keyboard wont take any input i cant even change num lock any ideas how to fix my keyboard not working problem? i found this with midnight commander > !platform-i8042-serio0-event-kbd this was in the main directory of the user the keyboards not working in
[02:42] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: blue is typically the color for directories. If you use 'ls -F' it'll add '/' to directories to make them easier to pick out
[02:42] <Jucato> OptimusRex: usually, blue filenames mean they are directories/folders
[02:45] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex: if you're more of a GUI type, you can lauch Konqueror and use '~/.mozilla/firefox' in the address bar
[02:45] <Yorokobi> s/lauch/launch/
[02:47] <OptimusRex> ahaa! Now the GUI looks much better. Do I just delete the forecast fox folder?
[02:47] <Yorokobi> if you think that's the culprit, yeah. If it isn't, delete more extensions until FF works :)
[02:48] <OptimusRex> cool. Thanks. Will look into this
[02:54] <butters> Ok, why will amarok NOT work.
[02:54] <cabled_> in user management - system settings it wants administator password....i reset the root pass and it works [password]  on the shell for su   but i cant get the sytem settings to take password
[02:54] <butters> i just dont get it, it locks up when it populates every time
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> how much are you trying to load into the playlist, and is mp3 support installed?
[02:55] <butters> im pretty sure mp3 support is installed
[02:55] <butters> what do i do to check?
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure libxine-extracodecs is installed
[02:55] <Jucato> cabled_: there is no root password. System Settings will still ask for the sudo (your) password
[02:55] <cabled_> well my bad administrator
[02:56] <Jucato> cabled_: even if you set a root password in the command line, KDE apps (using kdesu) will still use the sudo password
[02:56] <cabled_> i want to try delteing my shell with the bad keyboard since no one seems to have an idea how to fix with out going postal... i e delteing and starting over
[02:57] <cabled_> ok so when it asks for the admin pass what do i put in?
[02:57] <Alonea> dogatemycomputer: umm, I dunno, and its quite a hassle to do it when I have to create new folders for all my devices and figure out how to mount and umount each one over and over. I would rather fix the automount issue
[02:57] <cabled_> it dont allow sudo
[02:57] <cabled_> administrator mode
[02:58] <Yorokobi> cabled_: the admin mode button uses kdesu (sudo)
[02:58] <Yorokobi> If you don't use sudo, you're outta luck there
[02:58] <cabled_> in x?
[02:58] <butters> ok i did sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:58] <cabled_> X /kde
[02:58] <Yorokobi> cabled_: of course
[02:58] <Jucato> cabled_: yes. kdesu is what graphical KDE apps when it needs to use sudo
[02:59] <cabled_> well  can i send u the screnn pic cuzz it isnt allowing the password
[02:59] <butters> kde is leaps faster than gnome
[02:59] <butters> it seems to be snappy'er
[03:00] <Alonea> I seem to be having a lot of problems with mounting and umounting lately. My thumb drives are no longer automounting and I could not eject my cd drive without sticking a pin in the little hole on my drive to force it to eject. Also now have a locked folder called My Book which is my external hdd, but its not even plugged in now. Now my cdrom won't mount automatically like it usually does and...
[03:00] <Alonea> ...its a lot of trouble for me to figure out how to mount each one in new folders that I have to make and keep track of it.
[03:00] <cabled_> if i am in shell$ and type su     then the same pass it goes shell#
[03:00] <butters> i need help with samba
[03:00] <butters> i went to user and groups and edited the needed info there
[03:00] <Yorokobi> cabled_: su != sudo
[03:01] <butters> then went to smb.conf and did the browsing= yes bit and also smbpasswd -a username
[03:01] <butters> but i cant get a damn thing to work!
[03:01] <cabled_> i get the symantecs i have read the ubuntu site regarding the sudo properties
[03:01] <Yorokobi> its more than semantics
[03:01] <cabled_> but when i clk administrator mode button to manage users it says bad pass
[03:01] <Yorokobi> cabled_: are you typing in _your_ password or the root password?
[03:02] <Jucato> cabled_: which password are you typing in?
[03:02] <cabled_> ive tried both
[03:02] <cabled_> neither work
[03:03] <Yorokobi> cabled_: as root, run visudo, do you still have %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL ? If so, is your current user a member of the admin group?
[03:03] <cabled_> let me go look brb
[03:04] <cabled_> yes that line is there
[03:05] <cabled_> how do i chk this user stats?
[03:05] <Yorokobi> cabled_: id | grep admin
[03:05] <Yorokobi> cabled_: if you don't get any output, your user is not in the admin group
[03:06] <cabled_> no response..:/
[03:06] <cabled_> ok so how to add me then
[03:06] <Yorokobi> cabled_: add your user name to the end of the admin line in /etc/group
[03:06] <Yorokobi> cabled_: then log off KDE and log back in
[03:07] <stratman4300> hey all....  having a nice little java plugin issue here....  anyone wanna take a stab at it???
[03:07] <cabled_> k ty
[03:12] <cabled_> bbiaf i hope
[03:13] <frydaddy> does anyone here own a vista era toshiba notebook?
[03:16] <stratman4300> does anyone know where konqueror stores the symlinks for it's browser plugins??
[03:17] <NightBird> hm.... anyone know of a way to find the size of a file in linux?
[03:18] <stratman4300> do you have kde installed???
[03:18] <frydaddy> if you do ls -l, it will list all the files in that directory with info about them
[03:18] <NightBird> yes, but I don't know where konqueror places the symlinks...
[03:19] <stratman4300> haha not that's not what i was asking
[03:19] <stratman4300> i was asking becuase it's really easy to find out with konqueror installed
[03:19] <stratman4300> just browse to the file and right click properties
[03:19] <stratman4300> then hit the calculate button for it to find the file size
[03:20] <abg> i have an dell inspiron 6000 with an ati graphics card in it, so i installed the fglrx ati driver and i was able to get 1280x800 resolution, but when i connect my laptop to a larger monitor than normally runs at 1280x1024, i can't go higher than the 1280x800
[03:20] <abg> does anyone have any idea how i can get it higher?
[03:21] <NightBird> stratman4300, yes, but I'm wanting to do it via a script
[03:21] <cabled_> yes! that fixed the admin mode
[03:21] <cabled_> ty ty ty
[03:22] <frydaddy> has anyone had any experience with vista generation toshiba laptops?
[03:22] <NightBird> I do not frydaddy
[03:22] <stratman4300> Nightbird, hmmmm  the only thing i know of then is ls -l
[03:23] <frydaddy> long live the terminal
[03:24] <cabled_> cough as much as i truly hate "dos mode" the trminal is still the king
[03:25] <ardchoille> Agreed, the terminal is awesome.
[03:25] <frydaddy> i am new to linux and i find it to be one of the most appealing features
[03:26] <frydaddy> though the kde gui sure is nice haha!
[03:26] <stratman4300> terminal rocks  :)
[03:27] <frydaddy> have any of you guys encountered problems with the new phoenix bios chips?
[03:31] <cabled_> not i
[03:31] <cabled_> whats it doing?
[03:32] <frydaddy> well i am in the market for a new laptop and i heard some horrible rumors about computers w/ phoenix chips not being able to install linux
[03:32] <Ropetin> The fan on my laptop kicks in when I'm using Konversation and will not turn off until I reboot.  Any idea if there is a 'stop the fan' command?
[03:33] <frydaddy> i did some research and it seems that toshiba may have done something to their bios chip which makes the notebook essentially vista only
[03:33] <cabled_> id buy sony,lenovo,hp b4 id buy toshiba imho
[03:34] <cabled_> and given how much i love my xmas gift of a new hp pavilion id go hp deff again
[03:34] <stratman4300> i've got an HP nx6325 from work....  put kubuntu on it...  love the thing
[03:34] <frydaddy> i ordered a week or two ago and its being built still so if i get it and cant install i will probably send it back
[03:35] <frydaddy> i am trying to see if i should mentally prepare for disappointment or not
[03:36] <cabled_> wouldnt hurt to call cust support b4 u take delivery
[03:36] <stratman4300> that would by wise i would think
[03:36] <frydaddy> well i did...they wanted to charge me 35 bucks
[03:36] <stratman4300> 35 for what???
[03:36] <frydaddy> so i have to wait till i get the computer
[03:36] <frydaddy> to connect to tech support, can you believe that?!
[03:36] <stratman4300> that's kinda rediculous
[03:36] <cabled_> id tell the guy on the fone ok then lets canel my order
[03:37] <stratman4300> no joke
[03:37] <cabled_> $35 vs $1900
[03:37] <frydaddy> well he said it would be free after i received the computer
[03:37] <frydaddy> cause i guess thats when the warranty takes into effect
[03:37] <cabled_> tell him its free now or u cancel order
[03:37] <cabled_> u have a costco account?
[03:38] <frydaddy> yeah...he was a polite fella, and honestly didnt seem like he really knew what to do with the situation anyways
[03:38] <cabled_> id go to costco.com and chk out laptops
[03:39] <cabled_> microcenter and frys
[03:39] <cabled_> get a better deal
[03:39] <cabled_> and tell toshiba where to shove it
[03:39] <frydaddy> will i be able to get a custom, i ended up getting my price down to 1300 by not getting vista upgrades and a smaller (but faster) hdd
[03:40] <dac_> jisao,hi
[03:40] <frydaddy> i'll probably buy an hp if i return my toshiba, i really want the ability to run kubuntu for everything but games and other assorted things
[03:44] <omega_point> Hello, I need help making VMD to work...
[03:47] <cabled_> !vmd
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <cabled_> :/
[03:56] <ospf> hey
[03:57] <ospf> ne one out there?
[03:57] <frydaddy> hello there
[03:57] <traksius> Hey.
[03:58] <traksius> Whoops.  To slow.  :(
[03:59] <frydaddy> yeaaah
[04:03] <ejupin> how do I put the plug in for RealPlayer 10 into Firefox??
[04:29] <tricot> when im browsing with konqueror , i cannot see and acess the root ( etc , urs ...) folder ?
[04:30] <Jucato> !hidden | tricot
[04:30] <ubotu> tricot: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:30] <tricot> i did this
[04:30] <TheDebugger> An unwanted feature is a bug :)
[04:30] <Jucato> TheDebugger: bug fixed in feisty :P
[04:30] <TheDebugger> :)
[04:31] <Alonea> anyone at all know anything about fixing my automount?
[04:31] <Jucato> Alonea: sleep has not given me any ideas :(
[04:31] <Jucato> I'm still as clueless as I was 12 hours ago...
[04:31] <tricot> exemple , when i click on a torrent . i need to open it with ktorrent but i cannot acces the bin folder in tha screen ?
[04:31] <tricot> i have only acess to home
[04:32] <Alonea> Jucato: ^___^ its ok dear. I just don't even know where to start to look.
[04:32] <Jucato> tricot: you're on Edgy, right? it could only mean that you haven't properly "fixed" it
[04:32] <tricot> kubuntu 7.04
[04:33] <soulrider> hey everyone!
[04:33] <tricot> i see the root when im in konqueror .. but not anyuwhere else
[04:34] <K`zan> What does one do to get flash installed for firefox?  TIA!
[04:34] <soulrider> tricot: what is everywhere else ?
[04:34] <soulrider> K`zan: just do 'sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree'
[04:34] <tricot> lol
[04:34] <soulrider> tricot: where*
[04:35] <K`zan> soulrider: Thanks very much!
[04:35] <tricot> i have to open a torrent ( firefix , they ask me to open it with a program .. i click on browse and i obly have the home and media folder
[04:35] <Jucato> tricot: when did you do the hidden-root fix? did you restart ktorrent after you did it?
[04:36] <Jucato> hm.. firefox
[04:36] <soulrider> tricot: you using edgy ?
[04:36] <tricot> yes i restart my computer
[04:41] <tricot> ok thanks guy
[04:41] <tricot> im stupid ..
[04:41] <tricot> hehe
[04:47] <bonbonthejon> Feldegast: I use that already :)
[04:48] <intelikey> does anyone in here know how to get a script to run things after a ^c is passed to a child process ?       i mean in one box it works and in another it doesn't and i dont know what the differance is in the two...  ?
[04:51] <intelikey> like this example   make a script that does    sleep .1 ;echo $SHLVL ;$0       and on the command line call it    script ;script ;script       now the first is running hit ^c and either it kill all of them or it kills the one script and the next starts.     but what determines which of the two actions is taken ?
[04:57] <Noldoaran> I'm having trouble with my screen resolution.
[04:59] <ubuntu> c
[04:59] <Noldoaran> ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> intelikey,  my head hurts just reading that. :) perhaps the use of 'traps' ? i saw mentioned in my last reread of that Advanced bash scripting guide ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> Noldoaran,  care to give a little more details.
[05:01] <Noldoaran> I want 1280x1024 and my monitor is capable of it, but 1024x768(which is what I'm at) is the highest one i can choose in systemsettings
[05:01] <dr_willis> Noldoaran,  and whats your video card?
[05:01] <intelikey> dr_willis hmmm    default hoary's behaviour of that example is to kill everthing,  while default dapper's seems to be kill the running script (including all it's children) but continue processing the command line
[05:01] <Noldoaran> built-in intel i950
[05:02] <dr_willis> intelikey,  that MAY be a 'bash' vs 'dash' issue.
[05:02] <intelikey> both bash.
[05:02] <dr_willis> Noldoaran,  Hmm. theres some info at the fixres factoid. it may be the monitor setting is saying it cant do the higher res.
[05:02] <dr_willis> !fixres
[05:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:03] <Noldoaran> yeah, I tried all that, I've been tring to fix this since mon.
[05:04] <dr_willis> could check the forums for the intel i950 info - may be a bug somewhere. if its a laptop. may want top check the laptop forums also.
[05:04] <frydaddy> has anyone had any experience installing linux on toshiba notebooks loaded with vista/new phoenix bios
[05:05] <Noldoaran> i even uninstalled and reinstalled X, which made it different(better?).  before I had weird options like 1280x768 and 1280x1280, but no 1280x1024
[05:05] <dr_willis> Noldoaran,  you could also 'cheat' and try some other disrto/livecd's and see if they set the display right. if they do. copy their xorg.conf over and compare it to your current one.
[05:05] <dr_willis> 'uninstalling and reinstalling and hoping it works' is windows thinking. :)
[05:06] <dr_willis> !find i950
[05:06] <ubotu> File i950 found in ncurses-term
[05:06] <dr_willis> its possible you just need tomanually edit the xorg.conf and add the right 1024xwhatever entry
[05:06] <Noldoaran> dr_willis: I got it to work with the Kubuntu liveCD, but not with my current install, which is why I tried uninstall/reinstall
[05:07] <Noldoaran> both are feisty
[05:08] <Noldoaran> I mean "Feisty Fawn", but they are being feisty too
[05:08] <dr_willis> look/copy the xorg.conf file over - heck. ya mak be able to just copyu the live cd's xorg.conf to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X.
[05:09] <ardchoille> Or go through 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and create a new xorg.conf?
[05:10] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  aparently he did that (i guess Uninstalling/reinstalling X would do that)  so somthing may of confused his configs.
[05:11] <dr_willis> Some days it just pays to hunker down and read/learn what all is in the xorg.conf file. :)
[05:11] <ardchoille> Yeah
[05:11] <intelikey> uninstall with -p will   without purging the config i don't think so.
[05:12] <Noldoaran> here is my config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20101/
[05:12] <joe2369> X.org will only do 800x600@60 no matter what I do to xorg.conf.  What to do?
[05:13] <ardchoille> Noldoaran: I haven't been keeping up, sorry. What is your problem?
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> joe2369: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file? I just wanna take alook to make sure.
[05:14] <ardchoille> joe2369: Are you restarting X after making changes to xorg.conf?
[05:14] <Noldoaran> can't get my screen to display in 1280x1024, even though my (new) monitor is capable of it.
[05:15] <joe2369> ardchoille: I suppose one has to ask such questions.
[05:15] <joe2369> ardchoille: "of course"
[05:15] <ardchoille> joe2369: Ah, ok. But I had to ask :)
[05:15] <ardchoille> Some folks make changes and then don't realise they have to restart
[05:16] <joe2369> hitmanWilly: I have several versions.  which do you want?  I have the original nv driver one, my nvidia one, krandrtray's generated one, and X.org generated one.
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> joe2369: the one you are using now
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> joe2369: actually, have you tried nvidia-settings to set up the res?
[05:18] <Noldoaran> dr_willis: does anything look wrong with my xorg.conf?
[05:18] <joe2369> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20102/  And no, I haven't.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> joe2369: it may be something with the monitor config section, X might think its only capable of 800x600
[05:21] <joe2369> hitmanWilly: nvidia-settings appears to contain no configuration options for my card.
[05:21] <aNtis0cial> hey im a complete noob to linux and kubunto is there some decent documentation that doesnt make my head heard and want to quit?
[05:21] <joe2369> I think I may have just solved it...  let me try something.  BRB
[05:21] <aNtis0cial> *hurt
[05:22] <dr_willis> aNtis0cial,  there should be some beginner docs in the help section/area - also the kubuntu web site has some info. then theres 100's of begeinner web sites.
[05:23] <dr_willis> Pick a topic ya want to learn about and start reading. :) ask in here for any clarifications on stuff you get confused about
[05:23] <Noldoaran> aNtis0cial: you can use linux without understanding everything. Just stick with the GUI at first and learn the commandline a little at a time.
[05:24] <intelikey> you can't understand everything if you write linux yourself.
[05:24] <dr_willis> the guis should be rather easy to learn now a days. As much work as they put into kde and gnome. :)
[05:24] <Noldoaran> intelikey: VERY TRUE! :-)
[05:24] <dr_willis> of course learnign where everything is - is the hard part i guess
[05:25] <aNtis0cial> yeah but i need to put some apps running
[05:25] <aNtis0cial> like eve-online =P
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> plus, it doesn't help that linux isn't written by just one guy
[05:25] <aNtis0cial> with cedega
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> more like 10,000
[05:25] <dr_willis> Hmm. I just saw a 'mini' linux embeded pc at walmart for $200  some info here -->  http://www.icpowerhouse.com/PRODUCTS/MITYBOOK/MityBook%20Features.htm
[05:25] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  like 1 man would make it better? :)
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> hell no, just responding to a previous comment
[05:26] <dr_willis> Even well done companies/guis seem to want to just change things for the sake of changeing.
[05:28] <dr_willis> Yea - its a toy kids pc. :) but heck it has networking.
[05:28] <aNtis0cial> shouldnt my hds appear on /media?
[05:28] <dr_willis> aNtis0cial,  thats normally the dir they appear IN.
[05:28] <dr_willis> they dont have to. :)  of course they dont have to be mounted anywhere.  what kindof Hd are you refering to?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> looks pretty rugged tho
[05:29] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  yea but $200 it was in the walmart Clearance Isle. (and still $200) seems steep
[05:29] <dr_willis> if i saw them there for $100 id grab a pink one. :)
[05:29] <intelikey> ok i have a Q,    can anyone recommend a shell that;  1 works well on linux   2 is free   3 is stable   4 doesn't change every few month like bash does    ?
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> honestly, looks about equivalent to the OLPC
[05:30] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  yea.
[05:30] <dr_willis> bash changes every few months?
[05:30] <dr_willis> never noticed. :0
[05:30] <bob_> funny thing.  turns out I was using nvidia-legacy in a box that had a GeForce 4.  Guess it's that other box that has the TNT.
[05:30] <dr_willis> hard-kore programmers i hear like the various csh stuff.
[05:31] <joe2369> thanks for the help
[05:31] <intelikey> dr_willis seems to.   things that work in one subversion don't in the next, and new 'features' all the time...
[05:31] <aNtis0cial> dunno if its because its 04:30 but this is not all so user friendly too much information out there
[05:31] <aNtis0cial> argh =P
[05:31] <intelikey> csh        hmmmm
[05:32] <dr_willis> aNtis0cial,  too much information is 'user UNfriendly' you are saying?
[05:32] <cabled_> yes! that fixed the admin modelol has feisty lived up to its name? i mean lots of things either broken or crash's over the edgy version
[05:32] <dr_willis> or did i miss read that? :)
[05:32] <aNtis0cial> hard to filter what i need
[05:32] <intelikey> yeah i can see why they would ...  csh - Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems
[05:32] <dr_willis> aNtis0cial,  and what do you 'need' exactly? or can you even define that? :)
[05:33] <aNtis0cial> basics :)
[05:33] <dr_willis> define basics. :)
[05:33] <dr_willis> shell basics? kde gui basics? filesystem basics?
[05:33] <aNtis0cial> file structure
[05:33] <aNtis0cial> who its organized
[05:33] <dr_willis> filesystem layout?
[05:33] <aNtis0cial> yeah
[05:33] <dr_willis> theres a few docs on that ive seen.
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> aNtis0cial: a good starting place would probably be one of the "For Dummies" books.
[05:34] <aNtis0cial> *how its organized
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> aNtis0cial: everything is a subdir of of /
[05:34] <dr_willis> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/11/filesystem.html
[05:34] <dr_willis> first google hit. :)
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> aNtis0cial: including actual hardware drives
[05:34] <abg> how do you edit the startup commands list? i can't find it in kde
[05:35] <dr_willis> abg,  which startup commands? the kde specific ones? or system wide?
[05:35] <Jucato> !autostart
[05:35] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:35] <arunkale> Hi people, my Kubuntu Feisty upgrade from Edgy after following the instructions on the Ubuntu Web site went terribly wrong. Kubuntu won't boot any more for me, even though I see GRUB on startup. I want to re-install it from a CD this time without harming the Windows partition, how do I go about it?
[05:35] <dr_willis> aNtis0cial,  http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html looks good also.. tldp.org is a MUST bookmark site :)
[05:36] <abg> ubotu: alright, thanks :)
[05:36] <dr_willis> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html seems like a decent doc over all. :)
[05:36] <cabled_> here is a radical question.. can i down grade from feisty back to edgy?
[05:36] <TheDebugger> Ready for the radical answer?
[05:36] <dr_willis> cabled_,  i dont think thats doable.
[05:36] <TheDebugger> :P
[05:36] <TheDebugger> NO!!
[05:36] <cabled_> thats damm sad
[05:37] <cabled_> cuz so far fiesty blows
[05:37] <flaccid> kubuntu blows :)
[05:37] <dr_willis> so far for me feisty rocks the house.
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> cabled_: its probably possible, it'll just be a pita
[05:37] <dr_willis> its also Possible you are just having 'upgrade' issues  - i always do a clean install.
[05:37] <arunkale> cabled_: why does feisty blow
[05:38] <arunkale> dr_willis: how does one do a clean install, without disturbing the windows partion (if you're on a dual boot)
[05:38] <cabled_> dr_willis> well if the upgade killa perfect install then its broken
[05:38] <Noldoaran> I found the error in my logfile, maybe that will help someone help me fix it. '(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)'
[05:38] <cabled_> my stuff worked just fine b4 feisty
[05:38] <intelikey> dr_willis i was reccomended to  ksh for the answer to that Q.     ksh - The real, AT&T version of the Korn shell
[05:38] <aNtis0cial> wtf is sudo?
[05:39] <Jucato> !sudo | aNtis0cial
[05:39] <intelikey> !sudo > aNtis0cial
[05:39] <ubotu> aNtis0cial: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:39] <cabled_> something that gets broken in feisty
[05:39] <Noldoaran> it runs a command in super-user/administrator mode.
[05:39] <intelikey> the name of root jr.
[05:39] <cabled_> my bad breaks the old su
[05:39] <dr_willis> cabled_,  file a bug.
[05:39] <cabled_> i have
[05:39] <cabled_> serveral of them in fact
[05:39] <aNtis0cial> thnks
[05:39] <Jucato> breaks su? how?
[05:39] <dr_willis> arunkale,   i just backup my /home partition. and reinstall ubuntu/kubuntu - dosetn affect windows at all.
[05:40] <cabled_> like feisty installed over 80 packages i didnt have installed b4
[05:40] <cabled_> printers blue tooth
[05:40] <cabled_> among other things
[05:40] <Feldegast> cabled_ so go through and remove them, i did
[05:40] <arunkale> dr_willis: i should just reinstall it on that same partition? are you sure it won't touch windows?
[05:40] <cabled_> i did
[05:40] <arunkale> cabled_ : why is that a bad thing?
[05:40] <flaccid> with the introduction of UUID can you still add a normal fstab entry for an smb share?
[05:41] <cabled_> now i have a broken shell that cant use the same kbd i am typeing on now
[05:41] <Jucato> flaccid: yes
[05:41] <flaccid> sweet
[05:41] <cabled_> well if u dont have a printer installed or blue tooth why on earth would u install them?
[05:41] <Jucato> flaccid: you can use /dev, LABEL, or UUID
[05:41] <flaccid> sweet it works
[05:41] <dr_willis> arunkale,  if you  reformat  the linux partitions and tell it to mount to the same place. why would it touch the window spartitions?
[05:41] <Jucato> flaccid: it's not something Kubuntu "added" to fstab. it has been there for quite a while
[05:42] <dr_willis> uuid is nice - but i change the fstab to use the label :)
[05:42] <arunkale> dr_willis: i don't know, i get paranoid about anything to do with windows :) windows can act very weird without any reason
[05:42] <cabled_> kinda like installing driveers for a scanner that you dont have installed then crashing cus u cant find the scanner
[05:42] <dr_willis> arunkale,  now ya know why i perfer linux.
[05:42] <cabled_> if its that stupid theres a problem
[05:42] <flaccid> Jucato: i didn't say kubuntu added it. didn't ubuntu added it in edgy ?
[05:43] <Jucato> flaccid: kubuntu/ubuntu
[05:43] <intelikey> hmmm do we even need an fstab ?
[05:43] <Jucato> flaccid: no. it's something that's built into fstab. what Ubuntu did is just to use it by default.
[05:43] <aNtis0cial> bah i guess i just start reading this from scratch overtime
[05:43] <dr_willis> intelikey,  i think so. :)
[05:43] <flaccid> Jucato: thats what im friggin saying
[05:43] <dr_willis> intelikey,  cant say that ive ever seen a disrto without one.
[05:43] <flaccid> you don't have to tell me
[05:43] <cabled_> kinda like sudo b4 feisty i never hada problem between admin and root and sudo
[05:43] <cabled_> now its a major issue
[05:44] <aNtis0cial> just one question is there a performance dropout when running windows game with cedega?
[05:44] <aNtis0cial> comparing to running them on windows
[05:44] <dr_willis> aNtis0cial,  there can be, iuve also heard of some performacen gains. depending on the game.
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> aNtis0cial: probably a little
[05:44] <intelikey> dr_willis i'm going to rm mine and reboot.   let's test the theory....
[05:44] <aNtis0cial> anyone plays eve-online? :D
[05:44] <intelikey> in 7 minutes.....
[05:44] <dr_willis> of course with some 3d games - you may not have all the fancy gfx features
[05:45] <dr_willis> intelikey,  since / is mounted in there i belive - you may have issues
[05:45] <arunkale> next time, i'll just remember to upgrade from the CD
[05:45] <Jucato> let him experiment :)
[05:45] <dr_willis> oh wait i see no /
[05:45] <intelikey> dr_willis no it's not.   not on any default ubuntu kernel
[05:45] <dr_willis> i di see a /proc entry - that may be imporntant
[05:45] <aNtis0cial> and how can i install the nvidia drivers?
[05:46] <dr_willis> i was thinking of the mount command
[05:46] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:46] <Jucato> dr_willis: you don't have a / entry? weird
[05:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <dr_willis> let me double check
[05:46] <intelikey> dr_willis the initramfs.img mounts /   never even looks at fstab
[05:46] <dr_willis> There it is
[05:46] <dr_willis> those uuid #'s make it hard to tread
[05:46] <Jucato> *if* you use initramfs
[05:47] <dr_willis> im wondering if the initramfs has its own fstab
[05:47] <intelikey> it's normal for there to be an entry in the fstab.  but that's not what is read to mount it.
[05:47] <Jucato> only one way to know for sure. let intelikey try it :)
[05:47] <fsckit> anyone know why i can't copy a file with a "" in it in kubuntu?
[05:47] <dr_willis> i thought iver seen messagew shen booting about changing root over or somthing.
[05:49] <intelikey> of sorts.  yes.  it's not a full listing.  but it makes the root device and names it /dev/root   then mounts /dev/root on /root and runs a chrooted or  pivotrooted init from there.
[05:49] <dr_willis> yea 'pivot' thats the term i rember,
[05:50] <dr_willis> ive not messed with initrd stuff :) so never had to read up on it yet.
[05:50] <intelikey> i don't think they actually use pivotroot anymore
[05:50] <arunkale> is it easy to set up php/mysql on linux?
[05:50] <arunkale> i'm guessing yes
[05:50] <arunkale> ha
[05:50] <intelikey> not sure what it is.    look in /proc/mounts
[05:50] <dr_willis> !lamp
[05:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:51] <dr_willis> I was amazed that i was able to get MythTV working Under Feisty so easialy. ;)
[05:51] <dr_willis> hope they polished the isntalling of other stuff as well.
[05:52] <don> none of my tv apps worked
[05:52] <flaccid> dr_willis: hopefully thats a result of fixing the bug in the package
[05:52] <don> radio either
[05:52] <intelikey> back soon    tty24 [root@~]  mv /etc/fstab .
[05:52] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  init 0
[05:52] <dr_willis> not sure if my remote is working.. but i find the wireless keyboard to be the Ultimate remote.
[05:53] <don> ya
[05:53] <dxdt> My kaffeine player will not play video files correctly.  THey have the worng colors or are horribly distorted.  I have already installed the w32codecs and libxine1-extracodecs.  Ideas?
[05:53] <cabled_> anyone know why my main shell/user account cant read keyboard? it used to work...im logged in on a sub shell and all works just fine...
[05:53] <dr_willis> well bbl
[05:55] <intelikey> and the definitive answer is an absolute NO; we do not need an fstab.
[05:56] <Duckinthetrunk> can anyone help with a network?
[05:56] <flaccid> wtf intelikey?
[05:56] <intelikey> fstab is not needed.  i don't have one.
[05:56] <intelikey> just booted without
[05:57] <flaccid> why would you remove it?
[05:57] <stdin> then how does the system know what the root dev is?
[05:57] <intelikey> to test the theory
[05:57] <intelikey> stdin use your head.  the commandline at boot time has it
[05:57] <flaccid> i don't know how it works without it, but im sure there are consquences for removing it in certain situations
[05:57] <stdin> intelikey: heh, yeah, forgot about that :p
[05:58] <intelikey> and the initramfs has the device already named /dev/root
[05:58] <Duckinthetrunk> help with a wired and then wireless network?
[05:58] <stdin> intelikey: is your swap active tho?
[05:58] <intelikey> i dont' use swap
[05:58] <intelikey> don't   even
[05:59] <stdin> i suppose a small script with "fdisk -l|grep swap ...." would initialise any swaps too
[05:59] <intelikey> can't say i know why but swap and windows always seemed like they belonged on other peoples boxes
[06:00] <stdin> I have a swap just so I can use hibernate
[06:00] <nbcb> anyone used adaptec on linux and know of any util tools in it?
[06:00] <intelikey> the init script mountvirtfs   probably mounts swap if you use it.
[06:02] <intelikey> i was pretty sure i had booted new installs that had blank fstabs befor  but had to test the idea of the file not being there...    i'll go put it back now.
[06:02] <Duckinthetrunk> can i get some help with my network hardware?
[06:02] <stdin> I suppose you'd need a fstab (or something like it) if you have /boot or /home on different partitions tho
[06:03] <intelikey> stdin home yes.  boot no.  boot doesn't need to be mounted unless you plan on changing something in it.
[06:03] <intelikey> stdin can you help Duckinthetrunk ?
[06:04] <stdin> hardware isn't normally my thing, but it depends on the problem
[06:04] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: what's the problem ?
[06:04] <Duckinthetrunk> i'm having an issue connecting to the net
[06:04] <navets> hey i need help with uninstalling a program
[06:04] <navets> Im not sure how to do it lol
[06:04] <intelikey> navets name it
[06:05] <Duckinthetrunk> kde claims that i'm not connected, but windows and other linux installs tell me otherwise
[06:05] <cabled_> navets how did u install it?
[06:05] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: have you set the network up, in system settings?
[06:05] <navets> ksynaptics is the name
[06:05] <navets> i think i installed it through add remove programs list
[06:05] <Duckinthetrunk> under network settings?
[06:06] <intelikey> navets sudo aptitude remove ksynaptics
[06:06] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: yeah
[06:06] <navets> k thx
[06:06] <intelikey> np
[06:06] <stdin> navets: or you can do it from adept too
[06:07] <navets> is there a place i can go to learn the unix commands?
[06:07] <intelikey> yes the gui "pointy clicky thingy" is supposed to work for that as well.
[06:07] <stdin> !shell
[06:07] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:07] <intelikey> !cli | navets
[06:07] <Duckinthetrunk> i think it is set up correctly, but that could be the problem
[06:07] <ubotu> navets: please see above
[06:07] <cabled_> google
[06:07] <Duckinthetrunk> i can't even ping the router
[06:07] <Duckinthetrunk> so there is no signal going out
[06:07] <Duckinthetrunk> but kde tells me that the hardware is fine
[06:07] <navets> thanks
[06:08] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: what type of connection? wired/wifi, dhcp/static?
[06:08] <intelikey> navets also of note.   tldp.org  is a linux users friend.
[06:08] <Duckinthetrunk> wired, dhcp
[06:08] <Duckinthetrunk> my wireless is giving me the same crap though
[06:08] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: check if you have an IP address assigned
[06:08] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin, how?
[06:09] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: open konsole and type in ifconfig
[06:10] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin, inet addr: 169.254.2.18
[06:10] <navets> hey guys, how come konversation opens everytime i log in
[06:10] <navets> even after i close it
[06:10] <cabled_> use xchat less annoying
[06:11] <flaccid> navets: kde uses sessions
[06:11] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: any 169.254.... address is from avhi not dhcp, so ignore that. what is the device name (eth0)?
[06:11] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin, yes
[06:12] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin, eth0
[06:12] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: ok, open up /etc/network/interfaces (kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces) and post (to pastebin) what the "iface eth0" section has
[06:14] <fsckit> anyone know why i can't display the spanish n in ubuntu?
[06:15] <arunkale> i dont get good enough download/upload speeds using utorrent on linux as compared to utorrent on windows
[06:15] <stdin> fsckit:  ?
[06:15] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin, i can't get into interfaces
[06:15] <stdin> fsckit: I just press Alt-Gr+]  n
[06:15] <arunkale> fsckit sounds like a bad word :p
[06:16] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: why not?
[06:16] <kgx> hey if i want to do something like: ./blah.sh > output_xx.log, where 'xx' is today's date; how do i do that?
[06:16] <Duckinthetrunk> when i cd interfaces it returns "not a directory"
[06:17] <fsckit> arunkale, yeah, it's a play on fsck and a bad work ;)
[06:17] <Duckinthetrunk> wow
[06:17] <Duckinthetrunk> stupid mistake
[06:17] <Duckinthetrunk> one second
[06:17] <stdin> kgx: ./blah.sh > output_$(date +%d-%m-%Y).log
[06:17] <ardchoille> kgx: open a terminal and typ:  echo $(date +%Y%m%d)
[06:17] <fsckit> stdin, what's "Gr"? i don't need to display it exactly, just have ubuntu use it to copy my files from cd
[06:18] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:18] <ardchoille> kgx: There are lots of formats for that, man date
[06:18] <kgx> thanks
[06:18] <stdin> fsckit: Alr-Gr is the right Alt key
[06:18] <kgx> i wasnt sure how to concat on the console :$
[06:19] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: hmm, ok is there a line that says "auto eth0" ?
[06:19] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin, yes, that line was right underneath it
[06:20] <fsckit> stdin, not doing anything. i got a song with the word pinata in it and it won't copy to ubuntu because of the spanish n? nobody had this prob?
[06:20] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: hmm, try (in konsole): sudo ifup eth0
[06:21] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: returns interface eth0 already configured
[06:21] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: ok, try this: sudo ifup --force eth0
[06:22] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: working........
[06:23] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: no dice
[06:23] <stdin> hmm
[06:23] <stdin> wounder why
[06:23] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: "No working leases in persistent database"
[06:23] <Duckinthetrunk> "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[06:24] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: have you made sure all the cables are connected correctly and the router is setup right? maybe dumb questions, but worth asking
[06:24] <arunkale> ok, i'm off to re-install feisty from a CD
[06:24] <arunkale> wish me luck
[06:24] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: i'm dual booting with windows, and windows still works
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> luck.wish(arunkale)
[06:25] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: is there something specific with the router i should do/add?
[06:25] <arunkale> thanks!
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> np :)
[06:25] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: as long as it's setup for DHCP it should work
[06:25] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: try setting the IP address manually, then try pinging the router
[06:26] <arunkale> umm if i burn the desktop cd iso to a dvd, will it work
[06:26] <Duckinthetrunk> f***
[06:26] <stdin> arunkale: yeah, I've done it before
[06:26] <Duckinthetrunk> eth0 is my wireless
[06:26] <Duckinthetrunk> eth1 is my wired
[06:26] <Duckinthetrunk> damn
[06:27] <arunkale> stdin: thanks, i seem to have run out of blank cds and i have a bunch of dvds lying around
[06:27] <stdin> arunkale: same reason I did it :)
[06:27] <arunkale> heh, nice
[06:27] <arunkale> ok, people, i'll see you in a bit
[06:27] <arunkale> hopefully from kubuntu!
[06:27] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: now trying the ifup with eth1
[06:27] <Duckinthetrunk> wow don't i feel dumb
[06:27] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: ok, see if that works
[06:28] <Duckinthetrunk> same thing
[06:28] <Duckinthetrunk> dang
[06:28] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: it tried to get a dhcp address?
[06:28] <Duckinthetrunk> yes, same failure as before
[06:29] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: try setting the IP address for eth1 manually, then try pinging the router.
[06:30] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: use the same network that the router uses, eg 192.168.1.X
[06:33] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: kde is giving me a lot of crap
[06:34] <Duckinthetrunk> cannot apply because gateway is invalid
[06:34] <Duckinthetrunk> i try to put in my gateway, and nothing changes
[06:34] <Duckinthetrunk> wait
[06:35] <abortd> whats a good partitioner for gnome?
[06:35] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: set the gateway (router IP address) in the Routes tab (and choose eth1)
[06:35] <stdin> abortd: probably gparted
[06:35] <jakub_> Hi everybody, please can anybody tell me how to unrar achive in kubuntu
[06:35] <abortd> just remembered :
[06:35] <stdin> !rar
[06:35] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:36] <psotoid> For installing Privoxy (www.privoxy.org), is Ubuntu 6.06LTS based on Debian or Fedora?
[06:37] <abortd> wow gparted isnt letting me do crap
[06:37] <flaccid> psotoid: deb
[06:37] <stdin> psotoid: ubuntu is based on debian, and there is a package for privoxy in the repositories
[06:37] <flaccid> !info privoxy
[06:37] <Duckinthetrunk> stdin: no dice
[06:37] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.6-1 (feisty), package size 1248 kB, installed size 2804 kB
[06:37] <psotoid> thanks!
[06:37] <psotoid> thanks again!
[06:38] <flaccid> np
[06:38] <stdin> abortd: make sure you are running it as root (on an unmounted disk)
[06:38] <abortd> .....
[06:38] <abortd> it wont let me unmount any
[06:38] <stdin> Duckinthetrunk: man that's strange
[06:38] <abortd> and i want to make a windows partition
[06:38] <Duckinthetrunk> i know
[06:39] <stdin> abortd: it's reccommended to partition from a liveCD
[06:39] <abortd> i want to run ciy of villains but i doubt wine or cedega will let me
[06:39] <stdin> abortd: vmware/virtualbox?
[06:40] <abortd> whats that?
[06:40] <stdin> !vmware
[06:40] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:40] <stdin> abortd: lets you run windows _in_ linux
[06:40] <stdin> abortd: as a virtual machine
[06:41] <abortd> you have me confused
[06:41] <abortd> will it let me run it flawlessly
[06:41] <stdin> abortd: it will run a FULL os, as if it was running on it's own
[06:43] <Alonea> anyone have any ideas for when your automount thing is messed up?
[06:44] <abortd> do i need to install the os to use it?
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> abortd: yes, but on the vm
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> abortd: there's a couple of different ways to go about it...
[06:47] <abortd> can u install a cpkg on debian?
[06:49] <stdin> cpkg?
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> !info cpkg
[06:51] <ubotu> Package cpkg does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> !cpkg
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <abortd> its a .cpkg file
[06:51] <stdin> and what is a .cpkg file?
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> ok, from my googling, it appears to be basically an install script
[06:52] <Mena> Hi, Does any one know wo to read ext3 partitions under Vista Not Xp
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> with an embedded tar file
[06:54] <Mena> How*
[06:55] <stdin> like .bin (in java/vmware/nvidia) ?
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> sorta
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> stdin: try just executing it
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> err, abortd, try execing it
[06:56] <abortd> i got a .deb now i think
[06:56] <abortd> do i need any extra program for a .zip?
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> abortd: i think gzip can handle those
[06:57] <abortd> k cool
[06:57] <abortd> i cant wait to get my hands on city of heroes
[06:58] <abortd> not sure if i wanna be a villain or not
[06:59] <stdin> for zip you just do "unzip file.zip"
[07:01] <LinkCanabico> hi everybody i wanted to know if there is a way to transform rpms to the equivalent for kubuntu since i have a large colection of programns that are hard to finde
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> !alien | LinkCanabico
[07:01] <ubotu> LinkCanabico: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:02] <hitmanWilly> LinkCanabico: alien can usually convert over to a deb pretty well
[07:03] <sgrover> How do I override the Kubuntu login theme (replace the blue graphics with another theme)
[07:03] <stdin> !changethemes
[07:03] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[07:03] <LinkCanabico> Ok thanks
[07:04] <sgrover> ubotu: thanks.
[07:04] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:05] <intelikey> !botshnack
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botshnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <intelikey> !botsnack
[07:05] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:05] <intelikey> fat fingured that one didn't i
[07:05] <stdin> heh :p
[07:06] <LinkCanabico> and another question can i simply keep my home hd as it is (im swiching from fedora to Kubuntu )
[07:06] <stdin> LinkCanabico: you should be able to
[07:08] <stdin> !opsnack | I like
[07:08] <ubotu> I like: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[07:08] <stdin> hehe
[07:08] <LinkCanabico> stdin ok
[07:08] <LinkCanabico> wish me luck
[07:09] <LinkCanabico> bye
[07:09] <osiris> how do i restore the /mbr (or rebuild it) from a ubuntu disc
[07:10] <stdin> osiris: follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:10] <osiris> thx.
[07:10] <osiris> something made the disc un-botable after reboot
[07:10] <intelikey> stdin you have feisty right ?
[07:10] <stdin> yeah
[07:11] <intelikey> would you mind pastebining   cat /proc/meminfo   for me
[07:11] <intelikey> the format has changed    and i need to look into the newer format
[07:12] <stdin> intelikey: http://stdin.pastebin.us/33651
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> !paste > hitmanWilly
[07:12] <intelikey> ty.
[07:12] <intelikey> oh you too heh.  :)
[07:13] <stdin> :)
[07:13] <intelikey> same day i see....
[07:13] <intelikey> :)
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20111/
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> there ya go
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> aw, nuts...
[07:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly :)
[07:16] <intelikey> go to bed fred.
[07:16] <intelikey> hit the sack jack
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> i just may...
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> tomorrow is a different story...
[07:17] <intelikey> same story.  different day
[07:17] <stdin> after tommorrow I get my week off too
[07:17] <intelikey> nothing new under the sun.
[07:19] <intelikey> :)
[07:20] <stdin> after all, it is 06:20 here
[07:21] <ardchoille> Kubuntu sure makes it hard to walk away from the computer :)
[07:21] <intelikey> :)
[07:22] <intelikey> not really.  just yank that cord out of the wall socket.   that makes it much easier
[07:22] <stdin> intelikey: not on a laptop :p
[07:22] <ardchoille> Heh, not a chance.
[07:23] <stdin> I pull the cord out, and kubuntu keeps on rockin'
[07:23] <intelikey> stdin [ ! -z lappy ]  && eject batteries
[07:23] <stdin> hmm, I don't think I'll run that :p
[07:24] <intelikey> lol
[07:24] <intelikey> no
[07:25] <neurovore> Hello, everybody...does anybody have time to answer some questions?
[07:25] <stdin> !ask
[07:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <intelikey> i should probably rm that personalized copy i sent you befor i forget and paste something on you url...
[07:26] <intelikey> s/you/your
[07:26] <stdin> heh, yeah, maybe
[07:26] <ardchoille> neurovore: We can try. What's your question?
[07:27] <intelikey> is it a pool ?
[07:27] <neurovore> Okay, I have noticed that on some flash based applications, you cannot see the words in the graphics...to use an example, take the free online game, adventurequest...http://www.battleon.com/ you can see the graphics of the game, but you cannot see the dialogue in the dialogue boxes that are displayed.
[07:27] <intelikey> poll
[07:27] <neurovore> Is there another program that I have to download for this?
[07:28] <neurovore> This is not the only flash application that I have seen this on.
[07:28] <intelikey> ms ttf fonts   ?
[07:29] <intelikey> just guessing.   i've see some chatter about that.   didn't pay attention, cause i don't do flash
[07:29] <intelikey> !flash
[07:29] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:29] <intelikey> !msttf
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <neurovore> Is that it? I thought that if a font is not supported, you just see a bunch of programming symbols.
[07:29] <neurovore> I thought that I already have flash.
[07:30] <intelikey> yeah i was fishing for an infonode
[07:30] <intelikey> should use /msg for that i guess..
[07:30] <stdin> !msttcorefonts
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <stdin> !info msttcorefonts
[07:30] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:31] <ardchoille> neurovore: I don't use flash so I can't help, sorry.
[07:31] <intelikey> there it is.   try that  ^
[07:32] <neurovore> Hold on...
[07:32] <intelikey> i think installing that package will fix it for you....  but as previously noted i don't do flash
[07:35] <neurovore> It works...thank you everyone. One more question...is this the same program that will allow me to use any true type font?
[07:35] <stdin> neurovore: it's not a program, it's just the fonts
[07:36] <intelikey> but basicly    yes
[07:36] <stdin> intelikey: !fonts :p
[07:36] <neurovore> So does kubuntu automatically support any true type font?
[07:36] <stdin> !fonts
[07:36] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:36] <stdin> intelikey: that's what you were looking for
[07:37] <intelikey> that's it.
[07:37] <intelikey> i think there was another link    msttf  or ttf
[07:37] <intelikey> !ttf
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <intelikey> but it's gone now.
[07:38] <stdin> !search msttcorefonts
[07:38] <ubotu> Found: font
[07:39] <stdin> !msfonts
[07:39] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:40] <neurovore> Also, is there a way to have adept manager download a file from an internet link?
[07:40] <stdin> adept doesn't download anything
[07:41] <stdin> it's just a GUI for apt
[07:41] <redshadowhero> Hello.
[07:41] <intelikey> not easily.  dl it with a browser and install it with  dpkg  if you must.   but do search for an equivlent in the repos.
[07:41] <redshadowhero> I have a question concerning the boot up process of kubuntu.
[07:42] <neurovore> Okay.
[07:42] <intelikey> what version ?
[07:42] <redshadowhero> Uh.
[07:42] <redshadowhero> 7
[07:42] <intelikey> k
[07:42] <stdin> ask, we may or may not know :p
[07:42] <redshadowhero> Fiesty Fawn
[07:42] <redshadowhero> Well, is there anyway to keep it (in the dual booting menu) from having the timer?
[07:43] <intelikey> yes.   that is set in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <stdin> yeah, set the timeout to 0
[07:43] <redshadowhero> alright.
[07:43] <redshadowhero> with an editor like nano, right?
[07:43] <intelikey> you can edit it with    kdesu kate  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <pheaver> when I press the mute button on my keyboard, KDE starts kmix and shows a big on-screen "Mute On"... how do I disable this?
[07:43] <stdin> any editor you want
[07:44] <intelikey> and yes   sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   will work
[07:44] <stdin> pheaver: no clue, try asking in #kde
[07:44] <pheaver> all right
[07:44] <redshadowhero> why would I want admin privilages when editing this file?
[07:44] <redshadowhero> do I need it?
[07:45] <stdin> because it's only writable by root
[07:45] <redshadowhero> alright.
[07:46] <intelikey> redshadowhero as a general rule,  anything not in $HOME/*  will need root access
[07:46] <redshadowhero> alright.
[07:46] <redshadowhero> I'm used to the apple way of doing things, I suppose.
[07:46] <stdin> redshadowhero: be aware that setting a timeout to 0 means that you can't choose what to boot in to, it will just choose the default. I'd reccommend setting it to ~3 secs, and hiding the menu
[07:47] <intelikey>  /media/ or $HOME/   i suppose i should have said
[07:47] <redshadowhero> well, I want to give the person who is using it infinite time to choose...
[07:47] <redshadowhero> is there a way to give it unlimited time, and just wait for a choice?
[07:47] <intelikey> comment out the timeout line
[07:47] <stdin> redshadowhero: ahh, then I think 0 will do that actually
[07:49] <redshadowhero> okay; I'll have to give a try on this system
[07:51] <Maxdamantus> How do I get the sound system to work properly?
[07:52] <intelikey> !sound
[07:52] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:53] <stdin> intelikey: gendii? you mean genii
[07:53] <intelikey> yeah
[07:53] <stdin> yeah, haven't seen him in ages
[07:53] <intelikey> been a few days...
[07:54] <stdin> hmm: [06:53]  [Notice]  -NickServ-           Last Seen: 10 hours 34 minutes 34 seconds ago (genii-around seen 19 weeks 6 days (19h 0m 4s) ago)
[07:54] <strabes> Has anyone had any luck with the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX?
[07:55] <intelikey> strabes  ! i   i'm still using an ESS1688
[07:55] <strabes> i don't know what that is
[07:56] <redshadowhero> well, that didn't work...
[07:56] <redshadowhero> it just skipped the boot loader completely...
[07:56] <intelikey> not likely
[07:56] <redshadowhero> can I comment out the timeout line to make it wait indefinitely?
[07:56] <stdin> thought it might skip the menu
[07:56] <intelikey> yes that's what i told you to do.
[07:57] <redshadowhero> alright.
[07:57] <redshadowhero> I'll give that a try.
[07:57] <Maxdamantus> Actually, I think it's the programs I try to use to blame.
[07:57] <stdin> or just set it to 9999 or something stooped like that :p
[07:57] <intelikey> you can also set the timeout to 99999
[07:57] <redshadowhero> I suppose...
[07:57] <intelikey> but a comment will work
[07:57] <Maxdamantus> When running a sound system, programs need to send to the sound server right? Instead of /dev/dsp
[07:58] <intelikey> right
[07:58] <Maxdamantus> Because I can do things like run Amarok and Flash at the same time. And they use ALSA.
[07:58] <Maxdamantus> However, I can not use something like madplay and Amarok, as Madplay attempts to connect to /dev/dsp
[07:58] <Maxdamantus> Same with Java, and vmware.
[07:59] <stdin> you can try running the app with artsdsp
[08:00] <stdin> sometimes works
[08:01] <Maxdamantus> Does that create a proxy (sort of, can't think of a better word) for the sound so all programs under it trying to use /dev/dsp get redirected?
[08:01] <stdin> something like that, yeah
[08:01] <Maxdamantus> I'll try it.
[08:02] <Maxdamantus> Am I able to run something like kdm under it, so everything I run under KDM works?
[08:02] <Maxdamantus> (Everything, unless I use a different tty)
[08:02] <intelikey> Maxdamantus do search through the apps' menus first, to see if it can output to arts
[08:02] <epimeth> gooooood morning
[08:02] <epimeth> :-)
[08:03] <stdin> Maxdamantus: no, because not the apps don't actually run "under" KDM
[08:03] <redshadowhero> Alright.
[08:03] <redshadowhero> Now it works.
[08:03] <redshadowhero> Thanks, everyone who helped.
[08:03] <Maxdamantus> stdin. If that was correct.
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> Then why, if I go into another terminal, and type "killall -9 kdm"
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> It kills kdm, and all programs I was running inside it?
[08:04] <intelikey> because it kills xinit
[08:04] <Maxdamantus> Ah.
[08:04] <stdin> if X dies, then so do all X apps, because they have to connect to the X server
[08:04] <intelikey> everything running under xinit goes with it
[08:05] <Maxdamantus> stdin. If you run something in a terminal under kde, under screen, that closes too. :P
[08:05] <Maxdamantus> I think.
[08:05] <Maxdamantus> I'll check.
[08:05] <stdin> the terminal is connected to X
[08:05] <intelikey> it does it catches a sigkill from xinit
[08:06] <eams> ubotu xsession-error
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession-error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <intelikey> you can detatch screen from xinit  but not the terminal
[08:06] <Maxdamantus> What do you mean "detatch"?
[08:07] <intelikey> man screen
[08:07] <Maxdamantus> If I run "screen -d -m somecommand"
[08:07] <Maxdamantus> The "somecommand" will run in the background.
[08:07] <Maxdamantus> Until I kill the session of screen.
[08:07] <Maxdamantus> It isn't attatched to the terminal.
[08:07] <eams> intelikey, hi! I have this file "xsession-error" 8 Gb!!! I don't know whwt it is!
[08:08] <intelikey> eams a log of any messages the xserver has sent you.   if x is not problematic   you can safely delete it.
[08:08] <stdin> eams: you can just go and delete the file, it contains X "errors" (mostly the !baddevice error)
[08:09] <intelikey> !baddevice | eams
[08:09] <ubotu> eams: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[08:09] <stdin> it's a bug in dapper I think
[08:09] <stdin> (that it doesn't get cut down)
[08:09] <intelikey> bug ?   they did that on purpose
[08:09] <eams> Thank you!
[08:10] <intelikey> oh thought you meant the !baddevice thing stdin....  i was just about to say....
[08:10] <stdin> no, just that it isn't emptied, a cron job can do it for you
[08:10] <fulat2k> anyone experiencing that firefox doesn't quit properly even though you've closed all its windows?  i still see its processes left over.
[08:11] <Ayabara> anyone using conky in kubuntu?
[08:11] <intelikey> yeah or even a command in your .bash_logout
[08:11] <stdin> or just "rm ~/.xsession-errors && ln -s /dev/null ~/.xsession-errors"
[08:11] <intelikey> now you are playing my song.  :)
[08:12] <stdin> that's my favourite "workaround" too :p
[08:12] <ardchoille> stdin: That's what I did
[08:13] <intelikey> stdin that link exists as  issue motd xsession-errors and a few i'd rather not name...
[08:13] <stdin> mine is only 79KB, but that's because I removed the wacom part of xorg.conf
[08:19] <Maxdamantus> Is vmware not a binary?... artsdsp seems to think so.
[08:19] <Maxdamantus> maxdamantus@maxdamantus:/$ artsdsp vmplayer || artsdsp works only for binaries
[08:19] <stdin>  /usr/bin/vmware is a script to run the binary, like /usr/bin/firefox
[08:19] <colorsoundboy> when clicking amarok i automatically wiped out my xserver i mean i must relogin :|what is that ?
[08:20] <stdin> Maxdamantus: you can try editing the script to use artsdsp
[08:20] <intelikey> i've got a huge script from several years ago (while i was learing bash) that i need to revisit and see if i can make it run like a swiss watch...
[08:21] <intelikey> colorsoundboy sounds like a bug.   check the bug reports to see if a fix is out and other info
[08:21] <intelikey> !bug
[08:21] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:21] <stdin> also try reinstalling amarok, or removing/moving amaroks config files
[08:22] <colorsoundboy> I will do thanks intelikey :D
[08:22] <intelikey> at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[08:22] <intelikey> np
[08:24] <intelikey> if clicking something brings x down  (and it does happen) then the ubuntu team does want the bug reposts filed...    the old adage "we can't fix what we don't know is broken" still applies
[08:24] <intelikey> s/reposts/reports/
[08:25] <intelikey> i'm going to rewrite that monster...  i'll take a break and look in from time to time.
[08:28] <colorsoundboy> cannot find that bug about amarok
[08:29] <colorsoundboy> how can i make this bug ?
[08:29] <premier_> Hello, I'm trying to change the kdesktop lock (the program that locks the screensaver) so it will not block multimedia keys (ie, I can pause or mute my music without having to log in.) Does anyone know how I can do this?
[08:30] <stdin> colorsoundboy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[08:33] <CrazyRobot> does anybody know much about the libwallpaper.so plugin for beryl?
[08:33] <stdin> CrazyRobot: probably better to ask in #beryl
[08:34] <CrazyRobot> stdin: i tried several times today.  nobody says anything in beryl
[08:34] <arunkale> hey people, i've just installed feisty
[08:34] <arunkale> however, fontconfig isn't working properly for me
[08:35] <arunkale> i don't see the configuration screens.. i only get 'updating category..', 'cleaning up category..' and regenerating fonts cache
[08:35] <arunkale> any ideas?
[08:35] <arunkale> !nvidia
[08:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <intelikey> arunkale sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow fontconfig    see if that helps
[08:38] <arunkale> ok
[08:38] <arunkale> it does the same thing, intelikey
[08:38] <arunkale> no config blue screens
[08:40] <intelikey> arunkale hmmmm idk.
[08:42] <arunkale> can i edit the file manually somewhere?
[08:44] <stdin> arunkale: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[08:47] <arunkale> stdin: thanks!
[08:47] <arunkale> it worked
[08:47] <stdin> had to look around for that :p
[08:49] <arunkale> thanks a lot
[08:49] <arunkale> brb
[08:50] <erikja> !samba
[08:50] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:57] <Solifugus> How can I find out what the executable is after installing an app. via adept?  i.e. what do I execute to start frozen bubble?
[09:00] <intelikey> Solifugus adept i don't know.  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep [bin/,games/] 
[09:00] <stdin> Solifugus: well, the executable is "/usr/bin/frozen-bubble", you can find out by looking at all the files the package installs with "dpkg -L package", tho adept probably shows it somewhere too
[09:01] <Solifugus> actually... it didn't even install... i just discovered..  oops..
[09:02] <stdin> Solifugus: it'll be in the KMenu too (when it's installed) under Games -> Arcade
[09:07] <intelikey> stdin you're pretty sharp on scripting  will this work or error out ?
[09:07] <intelikey> `TRANS -s | grep -woie $WHATTODO`)
[09:07] <intelikey>     SMACK
[09:07] <intelikey>     ;;
[09:07] <intelikey> esac
[09:08] <Solifugus> Wow.. frozen bubble rocks..
[09:09] <stdin> intelikey: hmm, that may work, never tried it that way tho
[09:09] <intelikey> Solifugus get someone to spaceduel with you
[09:09] <intelikey> stdin the script is in such a state i can't actually test it yet.
[09:09] <intelikey> i'll let you know.
[09:10] <stdin> intelikey: I'd use the $() version (instead of ``) just so it's clearer
[09:10] <stdin> but that's just me :)
[09:12] <ubuntu> I installed kubuntu after resizing my ntfs partition. I want to go back to full windows how can I restore the ntfs to using the whole harddrive?
[09:13] <stdin> don't see why not. (I also don't see why you'd want to either)
[09:13] <ubuntu> because I can't get my mouse to work under linux
[09:13] <ubuntu> it cuts out periodically after booting into linux
[09:13] <stdin> what type of mouse?
[09:13] <ubuntu> logitech g5
[09:14] <stdin> ps/2, serial, usb, bluetooth... ?
[09:14] <ubuntu> I've tried for a week to get it working when I could find someone to help
[09:14] <ubuntu> usb
[09:14] <stdin> hmm, usb is normally pretty stable in linux
[09:14] <ubuntu> if I turn the mouse down to 400 dpi using the hardware button and move the mouse really slow it lasts longer
[09:15] <ubuntu> someone had me try the evdev mouse driver but with it X won't load at boot
[09:15] <ubuntu> someone said it might be the kernel, but I wouldn't even know how to fix that.
[09:15] <ubuntu> and one person said it might be the buffer filling up and not purging
[09:15] <stdin> did you add "evdev" to /etc/modules ?
[09:16] <ubuntu> didn't know I had to. Adept says it's installed
[09:16] <Feldegast> i know the logitech G15 keyboard works fine in ubuntu (except the lcd has a 2 second delay)
[09:16] <ubuntu> lol I can't even get taht working in windows
[09:16] <stdin> it just makes sure the module is loaded at boot
[09:16] <ubuntu> so I hadn't even tried in linux
[09:17] <ubuntu> I really want to move over to linux, but I can't live without a mouse.
[09:17] <Feldegast> the lcd in windows needs their software, get it from the logitech website as the cd's version is out of date
[09:17] <ubuntu> I've tried that to no avail
[09:18] <Feldegast> works fine for me in xp64
[09:18] <ubuntu> stdin I'm reinstalling kubuntu 7.04 as we speak
[09:18] <ubuntu> would you be willing to walk me through making sure evdev is in the /etc/module?
[09:18] <ubuntu> I don't know how to do that
[09:18] <ubuntu> that may have been the problem, and if that fixes it I'll be exstatic.
[09:20] <ubuntu> I'm running vista ultimate Feldegast which may be why it doesn't work for me.
[09:20] <Feldegast> oh ic, i won't go near that
[09:20] <Feldegast> vista=evil
[09:21] <ubuntu> I got over zealous when I built my new machine
[09:21] <Feldegast> xp would still run better on it
[09:21] <ubuntu> I really want to use linux. Everything I've seen I love. I just can't figure this mouse thing out.
[09:22] <intelikey> Q. "what do linux users do?"
[09:22] <Feldegast> the mouse u got, does it have a forward button (rev. 2007)
[09:22] <ubuntu> It's sheer frustration. Everytime I get into doing something it just stops.
[09:22] <intelikey> A. "they install software."
[09:22] <ubuntu> no just the back button and the tilt wheel with the two dpi buttons
[09:23] <Feldegast> ubuntu that's not the 2007 version then
[09:24] <ubuntu> nope.
[09:24] <ubuntu> 87% of installing kubuntu so I'll be rebooting soon
[09:24] <ubuntu> I'll be back as Druntar
[09:25] <stdin> ugg, my LoCo Team is pure geek https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk/+mugshots
[09:25] <Feldegast> well i have my G15 installed in 64bit kubuntu
[09:25] <ubuntu> I'm running 32bit dual core.
[09:25] <Feldegast> and i get the time and song info in amorak
[09:26] <ubuntu> the g15 is working fine for me
[09:26] <ubuntu> sweet
[09:26] <ubuntu> havent' tried the lcd in linux
[09:26] <ubuntu> I wish logitech could/would support linux :(
[09:26] <Feldegast> email them
[09:27] <ubuntu> Ok, well install is done I'll be back in a moment.
[09:27] <Feldegast> i had to convert an rpm to a .deb to get it to install
[09:27] <ubuntu> ???
[09:27] <ubuntu> greek to me
[09:27] <Feldegast> the keyboard needs packages that i could only find rpm's of
[09:28] <dxdt> I have a problem with Kaffeine and codec issues.  Basically videos that should play aren't playing.  I think I have installed probably everything I can think of to help it out.  libxines and stuffs.  w32codecs and stuffs.  Any ideas?
[09:28] <intelikey> !rpm
[09:28] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:29] <intelikey> dxdt ran the script to setup the codecs ?
[09:31] <dxdt> intelikey: no, I just installed a few things here and there.  No scripts.  Are you talking scripts like automatix and easyubuntu?  Yeah didn't run those.  I just installed packages for libxine-extracodecs and the w32codecs using the PLF repo
[09:32] <dxdt> some of the video plays even, but in the wrong colors and weird stuff like that.
[09:32] <druntar> Hello again
[09:32] <druntar> back with my mouse problems
[09:33] <arunkale> how do i configure katapult
[09:33] <richard> Hey does kubuntu come with different programs ?
[09:34] <arunkale> richard: kubuntu comes with a LOT of programs
[09:34] <dxdt> richard: yes
[09:34] <arunkale> what are you looking for
[09:34] <Maxdamantus> druntar, while the mouse doesn't work, does anything output from "sudo cat /dev/input/mice"?
[09:34] <Jucato> arunkale: Alt+Space then Ctrl+C
[09:34] <druntar> no
[09:34] <arunkale> ctrl c
[09:34] <arunkale> thanks
[09:34] <richard> I found Amarok on Kubuntu which is like a must have ^_^ with kubuntu I was wraped.
[09:34] <intelikey> dxdt no.  installing the w32 package   as i recall you need to run a script in /usr/lib/w32codec/ or something   to activate them   else you havent really installed them.    jucato can help you with that.
[09:34] <kraut> moin
[09:34] <richard> Sad thing is firefox was not there
[09:35] <llutz> hi
[09:35] <Jucato> intelikey: not really sure with that. all I did was sudo dpkg the w32codecs .deb
[09:35] <Jucato> richard: you can install it easily
[09:35] <druntar> Maxdamantus no it doesn't.
[09:35] <richard> yeah will do.
[09:35] <intelikey> Jucato is it not the w32codecs-*.deb  that i'm thinking of?
[09:36] <Jucato> intelikey: well, iirc, I didn't need to run any script
[09:36] <intelikey> hmmm
[09:36] <arunkale> !flash
[09:36] <arunkale> !flashplugin
[09:36] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <intelikey> i know it's one of those propritary things...  could have been for dvd support
[09:37] <intelikey> been to long and too much bash sense them.
[09:37] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, the libdvdcss thing
[09:37] <intelikey> is that what it is ?
[09:37] <intelikey> ok.
[09:37] <arunkale> how do i install baghira
[09:37] <richard> where did Synapatic package manger go ?
[09:37] <richard> Is that gnome thing
[09:37] <intelikey> dxdt disreguard my   pebcak.
[09:38] <Jucato> richard: it's a GNOME thing.
[09:38] <Jucato> richard: there's Add/Remove Programs and Adept Manager
[09:38] <Jucato> for Kubuntu
[09:38] <dxdt> I wish the same RestrictedFormats thingy existed for KDE as it does for gnome.  Reading the wiki it doesn't seem to have a time table yet.
[09:39] <stdin> richard: Kubuntu uses adept, tho you can also install Synaptic if you want it
[09:39] <richard> Jucato: thanks.
[09:39] <druntar> Ok so if I edit the xorg.conf file to use evdev as the mouse driver how do I make sure it's loaded in /etc/modules?
[09:40] <Jucato> dxdt: unfortunately, the restricted manager was coded specifically for Ubuntu/GNOME... so there was no port to Kubuntu/KDE wasn't immediately done
[09:40] <stdin> druntar: just add the word "evdev" to the file: echo "evdev" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[09:40] <druntar> O_O??
[09:41] <Jucato> evdev...
[09:41] <druntar> could you repeat that in simpler terms stdin?
[09:42] <richard> The adept installer is great much better than Synapatic package manger.
[09:42] <stdin> druntar: just enter that command in to a terminal, copy and paste after the :
[09:42] <Jucato> O.o
[09:42] <dxdt> cool so I basically just did an aptitude install of everything using the word xine practically and now it works.  Cool by me.
[09:42] <Jucato> people really have... um... "varying" tastes :)
[09:43] <dxdt> speaking of which, why exactly do I see all the guides saying to use aptitude now instead of justt apt-get?  What is the real diff?
[09:43] <magi_> hello everyone. do you have experience using QT4? could you help me a bit?
[09:43] <stdin> !aptitude | dxdt
[09:43] <ubotu> dxdt: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:44] <dxdt> oh far out
[09:44] <dxdt> cool
[09:44] <druntar> ok I've done that command and altered the xorg.conf
[09:44] <druntar> can anyone else think of anything I need to do?
[09:45] <stdin> magi_: try asking in #kde4 or #kde4-devel
[09:45] <Jucato> magi_: actually #qt is also a good channel
[09:45] <magi_> stdin: thank you
[09:46] <Jucato> stdin: hm... when did QT4 == KDE4? :D
[09:46] <druntar> logging out and back in should restart x right?
[09:46] <flaccid> nope
[09:47] <flaccid> select restart X from kdm dropdown
[09:47] <stdin> Jucato: well KDE4 is built on it, so that would be a place to start
[09:48] <Jucato> stdin: yep. but KDE4 is not the only thing built with Qt4 :)
[09:48] <druntar> I don't see restart x
[09:48] <Jucato> druntar: are you at the login screen?
[09:48] <druntar> oh it's on the login screen ok
[09:48] <Jucato> logout, then click on the menu icon there
[09:48] <dhq> what webcam program can i use for linux
[09:49] <stdin> !webcam
[09:49] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:53] <Cthuloid> Anyone have experience using gphoto/digiKam with Canon cameras? Specificly it only working with sudo.
[09:53] <llutz> Cthuloid: is your user member of group "plugdev"? then it should work
[09:54] <Cthuloid> It is
[09:54] <Cthuloid> Or at least kuser shows it as a member of the group
[09:57] <druntar> ok that still didn't work
[09:57] <druntar> for some reason when I change xorg.conf to use evdev as the mouse driver X can't start
[09:57] <druntar> and the mouse is still where it was.
[10:01] <druntar> hello?
[10:01] <druntar> where did everyone go?
[10:03] <intelikey> emacs is better than vim
[10:03] <Etokura> IS there a way to change the size of my desktop icons?
[10:05] <druntar> ....any other suggestions as to why my mouse is being retarded or how to fix X?
[10:05] <ardchoille> How do I make a livecd from my installed Kubuntu system?
[10:05] <Jucato> Etokura: there is, but it will also change the default size of the icons for file management
[10:05] <Etokura> Ok, how is that?
[10:07] <Jucato> Etokura: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced tab
[10:08] <^V^> druntar: what is wrong with your mouse?
[10:09] <druntar> ok I'll explain again using a logitech g5 mouse it cuts out if I move it too fast. Tried changing xorg.conf to use teh evdev driver but when I do X won't start.
[10:09] <druntar> takes a system reboot to get my mouse working again
[10:09] <druntar> I've found that dropping it down to 400 dpi and moving it really slow makes it last a bit longer
[10:09] <^V^> druntar: when you say cuts out, do you mean moving it fails to move the cursor on the screen?
[10:09] <druntar> yeah
[10:10] <druntar> and doesn't acknowledge clicks
[10:10] <^V^> druntar: and if you leave it alone for a while, does it work?
[10:10] <druntar> nope
[10:10] <^V^> is it working now?
[10:10] <druntar> I have to restart teh computer to get it to work again
[10:10] <druntar> yeah
[10:10] <^V^> make it stop
[10:10] <druntar> ok
[10:11] <druntar> locked up completely
[10:11] <^V^> is it usb BTW?
[10:11] <druntar> yeah
[10:11] <insane> hey. anyone who could tell me why I cant run add/remove.. Just get the message "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude) could anyone help me?
[10:11] <^V^> druntar: try sudo modprobe -r usbhid; sudo modprobe usbhid
[10:12] <^V^> does it start working?
[10:12] <ardchoille> insane: open a term and type:  ps aux | grep adept
[10:12] <ardchoille> See if one of the pm's is running
[10:14] <druntar> lol
[10:14] <druntar> ok that didn't work
[10:14] <druntar> locked the whole system up and caused it to reboot
[10:15] <druntar> you there ^V^?
[10:15] <^V^> really? wow...
[10:15] <druntar> maybe I did something wrong
[10:15] <insane>   ps aux | grep adept command didt work
[10:15] <druntar> I typed what you said into the console and the whole computer locked up
[10:16] <insane> i'm totaly new with linux..
[10:16] <intelikey> "the kind of booty that stands in front of you in the supermarket and you ccould set a cup of coffee on it, that kind of booty"
[10:16] <^V^> druntar: that should have just unloaded the usb module...
[10:16] <druntar> it asked for my password and when I hit enter it just sat there lost keyboard and everything
[10:16] <druntar> oh that could be it then
[10:16] <druntar> my keyboard is usb too
[10:16] <^V^> druntar: try just typing the first command sudo modprobe -r usbhid
[10:16] <^V^> and then the second
[10:17] <druntar> what was the second one again?
[10:17] <ardchoille> insane: That have at least given you a line returning the grep command itself. Do you have apt-get or aptitude or synaptic or adept running?
[10:17] <^V^> oh...
[10:17] <^V^> have you got a ps2 keyboard you could try?
[10:17] <druntar> nope
[10:17] <NightBird> "When in doubt, set something on fire."
[10:17] <insane> None is running.. thats the problem
[10:17] <druntar> hmmm I have an idea
[10:17] <druntar> I'll brb
[10:18] <ardchoille> insane: Most of the package managers use APT as the back-end and they lock the dir when they launch.. meaning no two pm's can be running at the same time. You'll have to find which pm is running and close it.
[10:18] <druntar> another weird thing is it tends to happen more often when the cursor is over menus
[10:18] <druntar> if it's just blank desktop it doesn't happen as often
[10:18] <insane> i have done that. none is running...
[10:19] <^V^> druntar: try booting with some extra parameters: acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic
[10:19] <druntar> hmmm can't get it to lock now lol
[10:20] <druntar> ummm how do I do that?
[10:20] <druntar> there we go it locked up now
[10:20] <^V^> druntar: do you use grub or lilo?
[10:22] <druntar> ok that didn't work I just found out I can't log out once it locks up either
[10:23] <druntar> I was going to try logging out and restarting X but when I tried to logout the computer locked up
[10:23] <druntar> I had to hard reboot it as usual.
[10:24] <^V^> druntar: are you using grub or lilo for booting?
[10:24] <druntar> whatever comes with kubuntu when you install it on a dual boot system
[10:25] <Jucato> Kubuntu only uses GRUB (by default)
[10:25] <^V^> when you are in the boot menu and need to pick the OS to boot, see if there is an option to change the boot parameters somewhere and add acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic by default
[10:25] <druntar> ok then it's GRUB lol
[10:25] <vbharat4u> anyone India
[10:25] <^V^> I think it's 'e' in that case
[10:26] <Jucato> !in
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Jucato> bah...
[10:26] <vbharat4u> Hey I wanna know one thing that how to install mp3 codecs like .deb packages
[10:26] <druntar> ok so it's "acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic by default"?
[10:26] <Jucato> vbharat4u: Kubuntu Feisty? just install libxine-extracodecs
[10:26] <^V^> druntar: no, you probably want to try add those to the end of the line
[10:27] <vbharat4u> plzzzzzzzzzzz send the link of that package
[10:27] <^V^> so pick the (k)ubuntu option and press e to change options
[10:27] <druntar> ok
[10:27] <druntar> and just tack that onto the end?
[10:27] <^V^> it should have the instructions on screen
[10:27] <^V^> yes
[10:27] <druntar> let me write that down
[10:27] <Jucato> vbharat4u: just install it from Adept Manager
[10:27] <vbharat4u> ok I will try...
[10:28] <stefan__> Hello all:
[10:28] <stefan__> :)
[10:28] <druntar> do I need the "by default"?
[10:28] <^V^> druntar: no, just the acpi..etc
[10:29] <druntar> ok
[10:29] <druntar> brb
[10:29] <intelikey> "if moves, shoot him!  if he shoots, just hose him down with champagne!"
[10:29] <druntar> oh what happens if it won't boot
[10:29] <druntar> just take that back off the end?
[10:29] <^V^> druntar: you restart and it should use the normal options
[10:29] <druntar> ok
[10:29] <stefan__> I just create an ssh jail but want taht user has access to /var/log apache2 but when I log in as ssh user and want to access the log ln
[10:29] <^V^> druntar: I don't think its permanent if set in the boot menu
[10:29] <stefan__> I dont have the rights
[10:30] <stefan__> How can I make the user able to read the apache logfiles within the jail?
[10:30] <stefan__> can someone help
[10:30] <stefan__> ?
[10:31] <insane> hey... i cannot login as root on my system.. i trye su root then passwd.. authentication failure.. could this be the reason I have problems with adept ?
[10:32] <Jucato> insane: you don't login as root in Ubuntu
[10:32] <Jucato> !sudo | insane
[10:32] <ubotu> insane: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:32] <Jucato> please read that for more info ^^^^
[10:33] <richard> !mp3
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <richard> I cant get a shoutcast stream to play in Amarok :(
[10:34] <druntar> ok I added the apci=off string to the kernel command line
[10:34] <druntar> what was it supposed to do?
[10:34] <^V^> druntar: the whole "acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic" ?
[10:34] <druntar> yeah
[10:34] <^V^> let me know if your mouse freezes
[10:35] <druntar> I put it on the back end of the kernel string I assumed that's where it went
[10:35] <druntar> there was also an init line a root line
[10:35] <^V^> druntar: yeah, theres a whole lot of options specified there, at the end is a good place
[10:36] <druntar> if it works how do I make it permanent, and would you mind explaining why it fixed it?
[10:36] <richard> Never mind it works now....
[10:36] <^V^> druntar: I don't know if it will work... if it does it could be to do with a buggy acpi module in your bios
[10:36] <druntar> hmmm having trouble making it lock up now
[10:37] <druntar> got the mouse on 1200 dpi and moving it around like made and clicking on all kind of menus and it's not locked up yet
[10:37] <druntar> I'm impressed
[10:37] <druntar> mad*
[10:37] <arun> how do i change my icons
[10:38] <Jucato> !changethemes | arun
[10:38] <ubotu> arun: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[10:38] <druntar> ^V^ omg I think you did it.
[10:39] <^V^> druntar: its great if it works, I had a similar problem with my mouse just locking up
[10:40] <druntar> my mouse has never gone this long without locking
[10:40] <druntar> ever in my history with linux (the past week and a half)
[10:40] <^V^> druntar: what motherboard do you have?
[10:40] <druntar> Asus P5NSLI
[10:40] <richard> !flash
[10:41] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:41] <^V^> druntar: Ah, good old Asus... I have an asus also, and it was the cause of the mouse problems
[10:41] <druntar> ... so now how do I make it permanent
[10:41] <druntar> I don't want to have to type that every time I boot
[10:41] <^V^> druntar: you should try to update the bios to the latest version, that fixed it for me in the end
[10:41] <druntar> ^V^ I could so kiss you right now lol
[10:42] <druntar> I almost feel like dancing
[10:43] <druntar> ummm I have no idea how to find that bios update.....lol
[10:43] <richard> Where can I download widgets for KDE ?
[10:44] <intelikey> "so you really want to be a busboy for the next 20 years?"
[10:44] <Jucato> richard: widget styles? there are some in the repositories. you can find lots in http://www.kde-look.org but most of the you need to compile yourself
[10:44] <^V^> druntar: http://support.asus.com/download/download_item.aspx?product=1&model=P5NSLI&SLanguage=en-us
[10:44] <intelikey> what.
[10:45] <druntar> guessing I need the all OS one
[10:45] <intelikey> oh crap        Jucato   how long has that script been running ?
[10:45] <intelikey> guys sorry for the random posts.
[10:45] <richard> Thanks jucato
[10:45] <^V^> druntar: I'm not actually sure what that is...must be soe new asus invention =D
[10:46] <intelikey> at least the timmer was on.  it wasn't just dumping qoutes to the channel...
[10:46] <Jucato> intelikey: hm... didn't really notice it was running actually
[10:46] <druntar> going ahead and grabbing all the linux drivers they have lol
[10:47] <Jucato> that was the only quote
[10:47] <druntar> well teh DOS bios wouldn't work would it?
[10:47] <^V^> druntar: I don't think there is any difference really, they have only ever had DOS bioses previously
[10:48] <intelikey> scrolling up looks like it was on about a five minute time cycle  but it varies
[10:48] <druntar> so the dos is working for you ?
[10:48] <^V^> you need to stick it on a floppy or CD and reboot, and it should find it...I think
[10:48] <morpheus_> anybody had any problems with feisty fawn freezing during install, i get the kubuntu logo and the moving bar then it just hangs
[10:48] <druntar> yeah I had taht problem morpheus
[10:48] <druntar> I reburned the disk with a new cd and it worked fine
[10:49] <morpheus_> hmmm, might try new disk and slower burn
[10:49] <druntar> my disk had a fingerprint on it
[10:49] <druntar> lol
[10:49] <morpheus_> DOH!
[10:49] <morpheus_> might have to look and check mine
[10:49] <^V^> druntar: I'm surprised they even have linux drivers...
[10:50] <druntar> just for the lan and audio that I've found
[10:50] <morpheus_> got ot try and find drivers for my laptop graphics card, I soooo want kubuntu + beryl on my work laptop,
[10:51] <druntar> ok my mouse has been running wide open while I downloaded all of this
[10:51] <insane> anyone who could help me on private? problem with adept package mannager
[10:51] <druntar> that really must have fixed the issue
[10:52] <druntar> debating whether to go with the all os or dos versions of bios update
[10:52] <Jucato> insane: you could just ask in here
[10:52] <druntar> there is only a months difference between the two
[10:53] <druntar> ok so now I have to figure out how to install these three updates
[10:53] <druntar> not used to single clicking to open files
[10:54] <insane> okey... well.. i have no other package application running.. when i open add/remove i get a messege that some other apt or adept is running.. but there is really none
[10:54] <Jucato> !adeptfix | insane
[10:54] <_4strO> yop yop
[10:54] <ubotu> insane: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:54] <^V^> druntar: just get the newest bios they have..
[10:54] <druntar> got it
[10:55] <DeZZzz> Hi. Can someone help me w L2TP dialer config?
[10:55] <druntar> just burn the .bin file to a disk and reboot the pc?
[10:56] <^V^> I think so, at least that is how my motherboard works..should work the same on newer boards also
[10:56] <druntar> ok here's hoping
[10:56] <^V^> If not you could always try through dos
[10:58] <druntar> I still can't believe you fixed it
[10:58] <Jucato> (better believe it!)
[10:58] <Jucato> now send him a beer :P
[10:58] <^V^> druntar: its not really a good fix, hopefully with the new bios you won't need to use those options at all
[10:58] <druntar> I would gladly buy him a 6 pack
[10:59] <druntar> lol ok now how the hell do I burn a disk in linux lol
[10:59] <^V^> k3b?
[10:59] <druntar> ahhh
[10:59] <^V^> =D
[10:59] <druntar> like I said I'm new
[11:00] <Cnl_Delta> hi, how can i set up the CD-ROM drive so i don't have to sudo to unmount or ejct CDs
[11:00] <druntar> only been on linux for 2 weeks, and all of it's been fighting with my mouse
[11:00] <druntar> guess I need to burn it as an iso cd
[11:00] <druntar> or a data?
[11:01] <^V^> druntar: just data will do fine
[11:03] <druntar> ok
[11:03] <druntar> says it can't burn lol
[11:04] <^V^> hmm....that's strange
[11:04] <^V^> did you drag the file on?
[11:04] <druntar> simulation works
[11:05] <^V^> try burning on a slower speed
[11:05] <druntar> hmmm says it worked that time
[11:05] <roguejedix> Is there a way to see why patching files doesn't work?
[11:06] <druntar> didn't change anything and it worked fine
[11:06] <roguejedix> I did patch -p1 ../somepatchfile.patch and it just stands there doing nothing
[11:06] <druntar> ok trying a reboot
[11:06] <druntar> brb
[11:06] <^V^> good luck
[11:07] <Jucato> roguejedix: you forgot the <
[11:09] <roguejedix> Jucato: I feel dumb. Thanks, that did the trick
[11:10] <Jucato> :)
[11:10] <^V^> Cnl_Delta: Are you sure that just pressing the eject button on the drive doesn't work?
[11:13] <ypsila> moin
[11:14] <usman> ;
[11:14] <usman> j
[11:14] <druntar> man
[11:14] <druntar> tried to use the bios ez flash and it said there was no boot signature in the .bin file
[11:15] <^V^> druntar: it detected the bios on CD?
[11:15] <druntar> yeah
[11:15] <druntar> it came up as 1201.bin
[11:15] <^V^> what version have you got currently?
[11:15] <druntar> and when I tried to load it it said "no boot signature in file"
[11:16] <druntar> 0601 I think from 07/2006
[11:16] <^V^> druntar: maybe the cd didn't burn very well?
[11:16] <Cnl_Delta> hey ther ^V^, yeap
[11:16] <druntar> maybe
[11:16] <^V^> can you go open the cd drive directory in the shell?
[11:16] <^V^> Cnl_Delta: So just pressing the eject button wont eject the CD?
[11:16] <Cnl_Delta> sudo unmount works
[11:16] <Cnl_Delta> sudo eject works
[11:16] <Cnl_Delta> nope
[11:17] <Cnl_Delta> well this is my second kubuntu install
[11:17] <Cnl_Delta> it worked on the first one
[11:17] <^V^> druntar: cd /media/cdrom (i think)
[11:17] <Cnl_Delta> but on the enew install i shanged the Cd drive paths
[11:17] <Cnl_Delta> the options in the device manager is on defaults for the CD-Rom
[11:18] <intelikey> Cnl_Delta can't umount/eject a busy fs.  make sure there is no window/shell/app accessing anything in the mountpoint
[11:18] <Cnl_Delta> if there no cd insaide it ejects fine
[11:18] <Cnl_Delta> but when there is a CD inside, it doesn't
[11:19] <^V^> druntar: done?
[11:19] <Cnl_Delta> is there a way or a page on how to change the options so a normal user can eject it instead of a su
[11:19] <intelikey> and the cddrive icon in the desktop window has been known to cause a busy sig. on some devices
[11:20] <druntar> oh sorry
[11:20] <druntar> was navigating asus site for ideas
[11:20] <intelikey> you can suid the eject command
[11:20] <druntar> let me try that
[11:20] <Cnl_Delta> i can learn how to suid things i guess
[11:21] <druntar> ^V^ I opened it in terminal and use the ls command to list the directory
[11:21] <druntar> came up with the 1201.bin file like it's supposed to
[11:21] <^V^> okay, type "md5sum -b 1201.bin"
[11:22] <intelikey> Cnl_Delta suid means    set user id      sudo chmod 4755 `which eject`      and try normal user    eject
[11:22] <druntar> came up with no such file or directory
[11:22] <stefan__> is it possible to add multiple groups or user to a file or directory
[11:22] <^V^> druntar: make sure you type the filename exactly as it is
[11:23] <stefan__> How can I add an additional group to a directory
[11:23] <intelikey> i'm not a big fan of suid eject because one could  eject something they shouldn't
[11:23] <stefan__> to give them reaad access?
[11:23] <arun_> is there a better torrent client than ktorrent or azureus?
[11:23] <Jucato> stefan__: um... it's possible to assign a file or directory to a special group and then add multiple users to that group... that would probably be better
[11:23] <stefan__> can someone help
[11:23] <stefan__> okay
[11:24] <druntar> ok this is what it gave me : bec24cefbf14152aaa43ecbfdd228735 *1201.BIN
[11:24] <stefan__> the purpose is that an external user has read access to aapache log files. What is the best way to do taht?
[11:24] <^V^> druntar: okay, now cd into the directory where the original file is on your hard drive
[11:24] <^V^> and do the same there
[11:26] <druntar> ok its in a file I created called "Hardware updates" but it won't let me into that directory says it's not found
[11:27] <^V^> druntar: linux is case sensitive, and you need to escape spaces. Tab completion should help also..
[11:28] <stefan__> is it possible to add multiple groups to a file? How?
[11:28] <druntar> how do I do spaces?
[11:28] <^V^> druntar: so something like cd Hardware\ updates
[11:28] <^V^> druntar: you could type Hard then press tab a couple of times
[11:29] <druntar> I got it
[11:29] <druntar> give me one second
[11:30] <intelikey> 'like this with.spaces
[11:30] <intelikey> '
[11:30] <intelikey> 'like this with.spaces'
[11:30] <druntar> they are different
[11:30] <intelikey> like\ this\ with.spaces
[11:30] <^V^> druntar: possible a bad burn
[11:30] <druntar> ok I'll try again
[11:30] <druntar> running out of discs though
[11:30] <intelikey> "like this with.spaces"
[11:30] <^V^> druntar: try to reburn it and check the verify box
[11:31] <druntar> checked it the last time
[11:31] <druntar> said it was ok
[11:31] <^V^> druntar: you should use a RW :)
[11:31] <druntar> don't have any :(
[11:31] <^V^> have you got a floppy?
[11:31] <druntar> computer doesn't even have a drive
[11:31] <^V^> druntar: lol same here... :/
[11:32] <^V^> druntar: butn it slowly then
[11:32] <^V^> burn*
[11:33] <crazy_penguin> Hi!
[11:33] <mikkael> if i want to use iso-images of cd's with wine, should i mount them in kubuntu or should i run a windows-app in wine to load the iso ?
[11:34] <arunkale> Can anyone help me with installing PHP, Apache, and MySQL on Kubuntu?
[11:34] <_4strO> arunkale: what is the problem ?
[11:35] <arunkale> _4strO: no problem, just that i've never installed this stuff on linux before, so I don't know how to go about it
[11:35] <_4strO> !lamp | arunkale
[11:35] <ubotu> arunkale: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:36] <_4strO> mikkael: think you should use a linux apps for iso mounting
[11:36] <mikkael> _4strO: ok
[11:36] <druntar> what mode should I use
[11:37] <_4strO> mikkael: but i'm not specialist ;)
[11:37] <druntar> DAO TAO or RAW?
[11:37] <mantice> Should I install graphics drivers or are they installed... I have a intel graphics chipset.
[11:38] <arunkale> _4strO: thanks!
[11:38] <hugelmopf> mantice: is there anything that doesn't work yet with the graphics?
[11:38] <druntar> Ok reburning at 8X
[11:38] <druntar> got a buffer underun error
[11:38] <arunkale> which version of apache should i install?
[11:39] <_4strO> mantice: lspci | grep VGA
[11:39] <arunkale> version 2?
[11:39] <mantice> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[11:39] <hugelmopf> arunkale: yes
[11:39] <_4strO> arunkale: 2
[11:39] <arunkale> thanks
[11:39] <arunkale> and is php 4 more advisable than php 5?
[11:40] <hugelmopf> arunkale: no, not if you don't need it specifically.
[11:40] <intelikey> mantice depends on what you are getting/what you want out of your vidio...    and there are drivers installed, but there may be a propritary driver avalable too.   not been hearing about any for intel
[11:40] <arunkale> so i should install php5?
[11:40] <_4strO> yep
[11:40] <mantice> intelikey: I think intel drivers are open source :P
[11:41] <arunkale> alright.. i've heard some web apps don't work using php5, so i was wondering
[11:41] <^V^> druntar: buffer underrun is not good
[11:41] <_4strO> arunkale: you should, and you can install php4 either if you want (but i think it's unecessary)
[11:41] <druntar> says it burned this time
[11:41] <intelikey> yeah,   like i said, i've not been hearing about any propritary ones
[11:41] <druntar> checking md5sum
[11:42] <arunkale> _4strO: thanks
[11:43] <^V^> druntar: I guess your driver doesn't support buffer underrun prevention
[11:43] <mantice> k thanks intelikey
[11:43] <arunkale> what about modules like GD, etc
[11:43] <druntar> not yet
[11:43] <hugelmopf> arunkale: if you need php4 for a specific app, you might have to install it, but i think, there is not going to be security support for it for long.
[11:43] <intelikey> mantice if you want to see what you are using...  grep -ie driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <_4strO> ^V^: his driver or his CD burner
[11:44] <hugelmopf> arunkale: in feisty, there isn't even a php4 apache module anymore.
[11:44] <druntar> md5sums still not matching up
[11:44] <_4strO> hugelmopf: really ?
[11:44] <arunkale> hugelmopf: thanks.. what about modules like GD, etc
[11:45] <_4strO> arunkale: it's depend of your serveur utility
[11:45] <druntar> ^V^ checked sums again before trying and they are different now
[11:45] <arunkale> do all those get installed along with php5, or do i have to install them separately
[11:46] <druntar> hmmm hold on
[11:46] <intelikey> mantice and if you want to see what drivers are installed/usable...   dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 | grep -ie xserver-xorg
[11:46] <_4strO> arunkale: rtfm :p
[11:46] <hugelmopf> arunkale: search for php5 in your package manager (e.g. adept) and you should see all available modules.
[11:46] <druntar> use my other comp to burn this in windows
[11:47] <arunkale> hugelmopf: yeah, i see them.. i'm just wondering which ones to install to start with (sorry if I'm being a pain with all these questions, just that it's my first time)
[11:47] <intelikey> mantice errr...   dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 | grep -ie xserver-xorg-driver
[11:47] <Jucato> !php
[11:47] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:47] <mantice> cool thanks.
[11:47] <mantice> I think its detected it fine.. I just need agp card / more ram in this box
[11:48] <_4strO> Jucato: i gave it to him yet, but seems like he want not read it :p
[11:48] <mantice> kde is a bit slower than my gnome I use to had on my system.
[11:49] <intelikey> aka a gui
[11:49] <hugelmopf> arunkale: it depends on the needs of the web applications which you want to run.
[11:49] <^V^> _4strO: that was a type, meant to say "drive"
[11:49] <^V^> typo
[11:49] <_4strO> arunkale: have a look on the web to have an idea
[11:50] <arunkale> _4strO: I am reading it :) I just wanted to know if there are any I should have installed from the start. I was using XAMPP on Windows before this, so there's a bunch of stuff that comes pre-installed in that, that's why the confusion. Thanks you guys for all the help!! really appreciate it
[11:50] <_4strO> arunkale: no pb ;)
[11:50] <_4strO> arunkale: you can put all module whenn you want
[11:51] <druntar> ok brb
[11:51] <arunkale> thanks
[11:51] <_4strO> arunkale: so you have several way to install, put them all, wait i requirement to install it, put somes at the begining ...
[11:52] <_4strO> it's as you wish
[11:53] <hugelmopf> isn't that channel topic a bit out of date?
[11:53] <stdin> hmm, yeah :p "Feisty Herd 1 Released"
[11:55] <mikkael> next month we got gutsy tribe 1 :D
[11:56] <arunkale> i should probably install phpmyadmin as well, right
[11:56] <ubuntu> hello
[11:56] <bluescreen> hi
[11:58] <bluescreen> :
[12:01] <flowingfire> ingelska
[12:01] <arunkale> _4strO: so i'm supposed to save the php files in /var/www/
[12:01] <bluescreen> hat irgendjemand beryl mit einer aktuellen ati graka am laufen?
[12:02] <stdin> !de
[12:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:03] <stdin> Jucato: take a look at the /topic
[12:03] <Hobbsee> wow
[12:03] <Jucato> lol
[12:03] <stdin> bit outdated now :p
[12:04] <_4strO> arunkale: yep
[12:04] <stdin> it was "Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs!https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | Kubuntu 7.04 Released!"
[12:05] <ubuntu> hello
[12:05] <ubuntu> Could you help me?
[12:06] <ubuntu> I have got with my keyboard and mmouse
[12:06] <intelikey> ubuntu say it.
[12:07] <ubuntu> I think its aprroblem with              mydual core  processor
[12:07] <ubuntu> ehh
[12:08] <ubuntu> under windooooows I GT     THISPROBLEM  too
[12:09] <ubuntu> but i changed option "usb  mouseand keyboard support" in BIOS
[12:09] <intelikey> i'll bet you do.
[12:09] <nbcb> help..does rsync -avP copy all files even if it already exist in destination?
[12:09] <nbcb> can i do it such that it will only update those files that are incomplete or different filesize
[12:14] <eeos> hi! what happened to libapache2-mod-php4?
[12:14] <eeos> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 returns package not available (since the update to 704)
[12:15] <Jucato> eeos: php4 has been removed in feisty.
[12:15] <Jucato> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[12:15] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2 module). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 2471 kB, installed size 5588 kB
[12:17] <arunkale> how do i run phpmyadmin once i've installed it?
[12:18] <eeos> Jucato: $$%&&*'''!!!! do they realise people use kubuntu for development as well? we did automatic updates, it was a total mess!
[12:19] <A_A> whats a program that can unrar ?
[12:19] <Jucato> eeos: not really sure if it should have automatically upgraded all php4-related stuff to php5
[12:19] <Jucato> A_A: Ark can, just install "unrar"
[12:19] <eeos> Jucato: yes, we are now on libapache2-mod-php5.
[12:20] <eeos> Jucato: it well blooming did!!!!
[12:20] <Jucato> eeos: http://beuno.com.ar/archives/14
[12:20] <A_A> o
[12:20] <Jucato> sort of "explains" it
[12:21] <eeos> Jucato: I do agree with him, but the updateer should have been released only in a sable status.
[12:21] <druntar> hey ^V^ finally got it updated had to log into my windows partition and use the asus updater software to get there
[12:21] <intelikey> stdin  it will work
[12:22] <eeos> Jucato: the updater only partially updated, then broke some packages.
[12:22] <druntar> but it's updated to the latest
[12:22] <druntar> and mouse seems stable
[12:23] <eeos> Jucato: we run both mandriva and kubuntu on our network, plus debian on server. And kubuntu upgrade was a plain disater. :(
[12:23] <stdin> intelikey: what? that script thing you asked 3 hours ago? :p
[12:23] <Jucato> eeos: unfortunately, we couldn't test each and every case of using the gui upgrader. based on the results from those who were willing to test, it was ready for release
[12:23] <intelikey> `TRANS -B | grep -woie $WHATTODO`)
[12:23] <intelikey>     SMACK "$@"
[12:23] <intelikey>     ;;
[12:23] <intelikey> esac
[12:23] <^V^> druntar: you are positive that yo udidn't need to use the noacpi.. etc options to boot and keep mouse working?
[12:23] <Jucato> eeos: but yes, it turned out that there were some problems still
[12:24] <intelikey> stdin as long as the output of the operation is suitable for a case loop it will work.
[12:24] <Jucato> eeos: imho, Kubuntu is still "perfecting" the upgrading part. Ubuntu is unfortunately ahead of us in that area
[12:24] <intelikey> stdin i said i'd let you know if it would.
[12:24] <druntar> I didn't type in anything
[12:24] <druntar> I just rebooted after the bios update
[12:24] <stdin> intelikey: thought as much. what exactly does that script do anyway?
[12:25] <^V^> well, okay, it seems like its working for you :)
[12:25] <intelikey> you remember,   houndreds of millions of years ago, when i ask about it...
[12:25] <druntar> mouse hasn't crapped out yet
[12:25] <Maxdamantus> Err.. Question: How do I modify what GRUB in the MBR looks at?
[12:25] <intelikey> stdin i'll post it on your pastebin when i'm finish testing
[12:25] <Maxdamantus> Just did some repartitioning, and now the root partition, which had /boot on it has a different name.
[12:26] <stdin> intelikey: I'll alert the pastebin site to expect a mega upload :p
[12:26] <^V^> druntar: it's a little strange that you had so many issues burning the CD and updating bios, but enjoy linux =D
[12:26] <Jucato> !grub | Maxdamantus
[12:26] <ubotu> Maxdamantus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:26] <intelikey> :)
[12:26] <Jucato> Maxdamantus:  last link ^^^
[12:26] <druntar> It may be wrong drivers for my cdburner
[12:26] <Maxdamantus> Yup.
[12:26] <intelikey> stdin it's only about 500 lines of code
[12:26] <druntar> oddly even burning the disk on another computer with xp gave me the same results when trying to update teh bios
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> That document is wrong, GRUB isn't the first thing.
[12:27] <druntar> only the asus updater could do it lol
[12:27] <intelikey> was 1.2k
[12:27] <mikelima> Hi all. I've recently installed kubuntu feisty on my laptop.
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> BIOS are, or, if it means after the BIOS, they could be using LILO, or NTLDR.
[12:27] <druntar> Thank you again ^V^
[12:27] <stdin> ouch, must have gone threw that with a hacksaw, intelikey  :p
[12:27] <mikelima> I'd like to upgrade the dejavu font package to a more recent version...
[12:28] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: GRUB, LILO, and NTLDR are all boot loaders
[12:28] <mikelima> I'm not familiar with kubuntu package manager, or repositories... is there an easy way?
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> I know.
[12:28] <Jucato> so it's BIOS -> GRUB *or* LILO *or* NTLDR
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> But it says that GRUB is the first thing that loads. :P
[12:28] <stdin> !repos | mikelima
[12:28] <ubotu> mikelima: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> So I can run grub-install on the LiveCD?
[12:28] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: yes
[12:29] <intelikey> and in some cases  bios > lilo > grub > ntldr
[12:29] <Jucato> that would be... um.... "unique"
[12:29] <druntar> now who wants to help with beryl?
[12:29] <druntar> lol
[12:29] <stdin> mikelima: if you have feisty, then you probably have the most recent package
[12:29] <arunkale> how do i enable mod_rewrite?
[12:29] <Maxdamantus> How would it know what partition to look at though?
[12:29] <intelikey> in my case i can bounce from any of the 8 disks to any other  and back
[12:29] <Maxdamantus> The guide says:
[12:29] <Maxdamantus>   sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda
[12:29] <Jucato> druntar: #ubuntu-effects ?
[12:29] <Maxdamantus> But /boot is on the LiveCD atm.
[12:30] <druntar> aight
[12:30] <mikelima> I'd like to upgrade to dejavu 2.16.
[12:30] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: the /dev/sda part deterines which /boot it will use, afaik
[12:30] <Jucato> (not absolutely sure. I do it the manual way)
[12:30] <Jucato> not that I've done so in a looong time
[12:31] <stdin> mikelima: then you'll have to install that manually
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> But how will it know where to look for /boot?
[12:31] <mikelima> I see "gutsy" has a dejavu 2.16 package... Can I install just that?
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> I want it to look at sdb7 for the menu.lst and all.. Not this non-existant LiveCD fs.
[12:31] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: the /dev/sda part specifies which partition I think
[12:31] <intelikey> --root-directory=<mountpoint_of_the_installed_system>    was the way i remember it
[12:31] <mikelima> By the way, why are dejavu fonts "stripped" of most non-latin glyphs?
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> No. That's the MBR to install to.
[12:31] <Jucato> hm..ok..
[12:32] <Jucato> not familiar with grub-install
[12:32] <intelikey> Maxdamantus yes.
[12:32] <stdin> mikelima: you'd have to download the .deb file and install that, don't use the gutsy repos
[12:32] <eeos> Jucato: the upgrader was actually a bit of a disaster
[12:32] <druntar> How do I set up Firefox as default web browser?
[12:33] <Jucato> eeos: really? the upgrade for Edgy -> Feisty? hm..
[12:33] <Jucato> druntar: 2 steps:
[12:33] <Jucato> druntar: for KDE apps: System Settings -> Default Applications
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Oh. I can just boot it from the GRUB menu in the Kubuntu LiveCD.
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Then run grub-install from there. :)
[12:33] <Jucato> druntar: for all other apps: "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"
[12:33] <stdin> also, system-wide ^
[12:33] <stdin> (for all users)
[12:34] <intelikey> Maxdamantus or as Jucato pointed out just run grub and install from there
[12:34] <eeos> Jucato: 610 -> 704
[12:34] <Jucato> stdin: unfortunately, there's no non-system-wide way to affect all non-KDE apps...
[12:34] <Jucato> or at least, none that I know off
[12:34] <Jucato> -f
[12:35] <arunkale> how do i get rid of the weird way that openoffice renders fonts
[12:35] <stdin> yeah, gtk vs. qt again :p
[12:35] <intelikey> arunkale use koffice ?
[12:36] <intelikey> arunkale install msttfonts
[12:36] <intelikey> ?
[12:36] <arunkale> intelikey: i have that stuff installed
[12:36] <arunkale> it just has it's own way of rendering fonts which looks like windows 95
[12:36] <intelikey> change the size of the font ?
[12:36] <arunkale> and the rest of my apps use sexy autohinted text
[12:37] <intelikey> i have noticed that fonts seem to change with size
[12:39] <arunkale> how do i find/set my password for phpmyadmin
[12:39] <Maxdamantus> Might help if I knew the GRUB boot syntax.
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Meh. I'll just try from the LiveCD.
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> !grub
[12:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:40] <Aaroncn> how can I regster my nickname?
[12:40] <stdin> !register
[12:40] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Aaronc: /ns identify SOMEPASSWORD
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> No.
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Aaronc: /ns register SOMEPASSWORD some@email.com
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> The email needs to be correct I think.. Depending whether the server requires email validation.
[12:41] <stdin> don't need to give an email address tho
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[12:41] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: at least, not on this server
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> I use too many servers, hard to keep track of what requires what.
[12:41] <Jucato> other IRC servers require an e-mail
[12:44] <stdin> anyway, '/ns help' gives info
[12:44] <Aaroncn> /ns register leying leyingcn@hotmail.com
[12:44] <Aaroncn> It doesn't work for me?
[12:44] <Jucato> O.o
[12:44] <Aaroncn> /ns help
[12:44] <Jucato> don't put a blank space before the /
[12:44] <Aaroncn> No I didn't.
[12:44] <stdin> Aaroncn: and choose a different password now :p
[12:44] <Aaroncn> /ns register leying leyingcn@hotmail.com
[12:44] <Aaroncn> No, I didn't put a blank before the /
[12:44] <Jucato> yes you did
[12:44] <stdin> OOH, my feisty CD just arrived! :D
[12:44] <Jucato> otherwise it won't show up in here
[12:44] <Aaroncn> I'm using Kopete, is that matter?
[12:44] <Jucato> ahh
[12:44] <Jucato>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[12:44] <stdin> Aaroncn: ahh, try "/msg NickServ register PassWord" then
[12:44] <greg> I'm not sure if this is the right place to go but can anybody here help me with some sound problems I'm having?
[12:44] <Jucato> !sound
[12:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:46] <Aaroncn> stdin: it seems work.  it opens a tab where it says (18:44:54)  Aaroncn:  register leying
[12:46] <Jucato> Aaroncn: you do know that you are announcing the password to your nick
[12:46] <druntar> !effects
[12:46] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[12:46] <stdin> yeah, you'll want to change that
[12:47] <Aaroncn> Jucato: I will change later. For convinient to solve the problem, I'd like show the real example.  Thanks for you advice. :)
[12:48] <stdin> Aaroncn: you should see NickServ reply to you (in that tab)
[12:48] <Jucato> Aaroncn: you're welcome
[12:49] <Aaroncn> stdin: I didn't see any reply. but I can now send private message. Does it prove that I've registered successfully?
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> !grub
[12:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:51] <stdin> [11:50]  [Whois]  Aaroncn is an identified user.
[12:51] <stdin> Aaroncn: yeah, you're registered :)
[12:52] <Aaroncn> stdin: thanks. What command do you use to find an identified user?
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> /whois SOMENAME
[12:52] <stdin> Aaroncn: /whois NickName
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> Or, for more info, /ns info SOMENAME
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> If it's enabled on this server.
[12:52] <eeos> Jucato: we did actually use the apt-get dist-upgrade at the end, but that was broken as well.
[12:52] <stdin> replace '/ns' with '/msg NickServ' tho
[12:53] <eeos> Jucato: would you like us to test before you release next time?
[12:53] <arunkale> I'm supposed to save my PHP files in /var/www/ right? I did that, and i tried to run a simple hello world page, and it gave me a 'failed opening required' error
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> stdin: /ns works.
[12:53] <stdin> Maxdamantus: not in kopete
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> Just so you know, NS is an alias set on the server.
[12:53] <eeos> Jucato: we can try to set up a machine
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> Well, on most servers anyway.
[12:53] <stdin> Maxdamantus: no, it isn't
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> stdin: Yes it is.
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> Try sending a raw command.
[12:53] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: it's not standard across clients or servers
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> Even open a raw socket to freenode and try NS.
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> Jucato: It works on this server though.
[12:54] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: but not on Kopete
[12:54] <Jucato> apparantely
[12:55] <stdin> Maxdamantus: raw it works, but not in the client
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Kopete is an MSN client.
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Not IRC.
[12:55] <stdin> kopete isn't just msn
[12:55] <Aaroncn> I'm using Kopete, /ns command doesn't work for me. but /msg NickServ is fine. :)
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[12:55] <stdin> it's multi-network
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Kopete is noob at IRC then.
[12:55] <eeos> Jucato: I meant "to test the graphic updater", possily we could identify interesting problems because our installtion is quite complicated
[12:55] <arunkale> ah got it, problem with permissions
[12:56] <stdin> Maxdamantus: even in irssi /ns doesn't work
[12:56] <Jucato> eeos: that would be good. any testing and help is appreciated :)
[12:56] <stdin> Maxdamantus: '/quote ns' works, but not '/ns'
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> Yea, I realised that.
[12:57] <stdin> and irsst isn't a noob irc client
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> I don't see why irssi and Kopete don't make it so a non-alias command tries raw.
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> irssi is a noob irc client.
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> Try /privmsg Maxdamantus Hi.
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> PRIVMSG isn't an alias set on it.
[12:57] <ade> hi there, its fun being here
[12:58] <Jucato> stdin: you can call it yourself, you know ;)
[12:59] <stdin> I was waiting for you to do it tho, as I was offtopic :p
[12:59] <eeos> Jucato: I will see what we can do :)
[12:59] <Jucato> heh I call !offtopic even when I'm the one who's offtopic :)
[01:00] <stdin> !offtopic | stdin
[01:00] <Aaroncn> !offtopic
[01:00] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:01] <stdin> Jucato: ever done "!opsnack | I like" ?
[01:01] <Jucato> heh no :)
[01:01] <stdin> !opsnack | I like
[01:01] <ubotu> I like: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[01:01] <stdin> hehe
[01:01] <Maxdamantus> Am I able to mount the mbr? And if so, would I be able to edit what partition it points to for /boot?
[01:02] <Jucato> stdin: !botsnack | Yum would be inappropriate if ubotu's name were "apt" :)
[01:02] <Maxdamantus> Used to be sdb7, did some repartitioning, now it's called sdb8.
[01:02] <Maxdamantus> !botsnack Yuck
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnack yuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Maxdamantus> !botsnack | Yuck
[01:02] <ubotu> Yuck: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:02] <stdin> ^ funny :p
[01:03] <eeos> we need to run Windows XP under kubuntu for some tests, has anyone ever done it?
[01:03] <Jucato> I see they've changed it :)
[01:03] <Maxdamantus> eeos, easy.
[01:03] <llutz> eeos: virtualbox
[01:03] <stdin> back on topic, Maxdamantus, you can't mount the MBR, it is before the 1st partition
[01:03] <Jucato> eeos: virtualization
[01:03] <Maxdamantus> apt-get install vmplayer
[01:03] <Maxdamantus> Then, go to http://easyvmx.com/
[01:04] <arunkale> how do i add files to a tar.gz archive
[01:04] <Jucato> MBR isn't a partition that is mounted
[01:04] <Maxdamantus> Make a Windows XP system, and load it, then put the Windows XP CD in, and install.
[01:05] <Maxdamantus> arunkale: "tar -A somefile" should work.
[01:05] <Maxdamantus> Wait, nvm.
[01:05] <Jucato> arunkale: drag and drop doesn't work?
[01:05] <Maxdamantus> Oh, Using a GUI is easy.
[01:05] <stdin> ark
[01:05] <Maxdamantus> There should be an "Add files" button.
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> Or something like that.
[01:06] <eeos> Jucato: llutz Maxdamantus could you please point me to some goog documentation? something starting from scratch. Everything I read was way above my head.
[01:06] <llutz> eeos: virtualbox.org
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> vmplayer is the easiest way.
[01:06] <arunkale> Jucato: The file gets dragged into the archive, but I want to put it into a specific folder in the archive
[01:06] <Jucato> eeos: about what?
[01:06] <stdin> !vmware | eeos
[01:06] <ubotu> eeos: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:06] <arunkale> How do I get it to go to the folder
[01:07] <Jucato> arunkale: open the archive in Ark then drag and drop to the folder?
[01:07] <eeos> Jucato: virtualisation
[01:07] <eeos> stdin: thanks!
[01:07] <stdin> np
[01:07] <eeos> Maxdamantus: thanks!
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> Np.
[01:07] <butters> does Amarok read shoutcast streams and all that?
[01:07] <eeos> llutz: thanks! did I thank everybody? :)
[01:08] <arunkale> it's not going in the subfolder i want it to
[01:08] <stdin> arunkale: expand the subdirectory, then drag & drop it in
[01:09] <arunkale> i did
[01:09] <arunkale> it's not going in
[01:09] <druntar> !effects
[01:09] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[01:10] <butters> could someone help me with samba implementation
[01:11] <arunkale> any ideas?
[01:19] <butters> how do i see what my IP addy is in kde?
[01:25] <intelikey> butters ifconfig
[01:25] <elbing> I can't connect jakd in real-time mode, Feisty. Should I install a low-latency kernel or I can patch anything around system?
[01:26] <elbing> s/jakd/jackd
[01:27] <astan> anyone know where pstats.py might be stuffed away?
[01:27] <astan> it's supposed to be in python 2.5, but i don't have it.
[01:28] <astan> i have python and python-dev installed.
[01:28] <astan> (2.5).
[01:29] <astan> nevermind, found it.
[01:31] <eeos> I got a look at the documentation you pointed me out (vmware)
[01:31] <druntar> !effects
[01:31] <eeos> I did not understand where I get the windwos XP image
[01:31] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[01:32] <butters> Anyone able to help me with samba?
[01:33] <eeos> stdin: llutz Jucato I got a look at the documentation you pointed me out (vmware) I did not understand where I get the windwos XP image. I already have XP installed in a small partition. VMWare player asks me for an operating system CD. But I do not have it. it is on the HD
[01:34] <A_A> does ktorrent use java ?
[01:37] <butters> no it does not
[01:39] <A_A> hmm
[01:39] <A_A> then it isnt java thats rooted
[01:40] <A_A> azureus and ktorrent after being open for a few minutes they constantly use 100% of me cpu
[01:40] <butters> eek
[01:40] <butters> tthast no good
[01:41] <A_A> nope
[01:41] <A_A> cant figure out why
[01:45] <flake> who uses dual monitors,  is twin-view or separate x-screens better and why
[01:47] <butters> damn something is chewing up my computer, like, making it BOG down bad, is there a way to figure it out
[01:47] <butters> i think something is axxx the  hard drive
[01:47] <butters> iis there a way  to tell what app or whhat is causing  it
[01:48] <flake> ps -ef to list the processes running
[01:49] <flake> # kill [process number]      to kill a process, might mess things up if you don't know what you're killing
[01:49] <butters> how do you tell which one is more intensive?
[01:50] <JuJuBee> I need help.  I just upgraded to 7.04 and my wireless cards are not working now.  I have Linksys (rt2500) card
[01:51] <ubuntu> my kubuntu is destroyed, i-m from live cd i-m looking for konqueror bookmark to save them... where i can find that files?
[01:54] <epimeth> ubuntu: ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
[01:54] <flake> ps -r  narrows down the selection to running processes
[01:54] <epimeth> ubuntu: its best if you back up your entire home and just paste it back in after
[01:56] <alvaro> hola?
[01:56] <ubuntu> epimeth: all incluse in my home?
[01:56] <alvaro> some one speak spanish?
[01:58] <llutz> !es | alvaro
[01:58] <ubotu> alvaro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:58] <alvaro> gracias!
[01:59] <arun> !mp3
[01:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:04] <dcorbin_> I have no audio on my newly installed Kubuntu system.  The mixer shows volume "up" and all enabled.  What's the next thing to check?
[02:07] <edgy> Hi, how can i dispaly files of 5 letters or less in linux? ls ????? would display exact 5 chars
[02:08] <PolitikerALT> does anybody know how to get metisse running under kubuntu linux`
[02:08] <epimeth> ubuntu: if you copy all of your home then all of your settings will be intact when you reinstall
[02:09] <epimeth> edgy: the regexp for that is .{0,5}
[02:09] <edgy> epimeth: but do ls accepts regex?
[02:10] <edgy> epimeth: $ ls .{0,5}
[02:10] <edgy> ls: .0: No such file or directory
[02:10] <edgy> ls: .5: No such file or directory
[02:10] <ubuntu> epimeth: if i try it tell me i dont have permission
[02:10] <epimeth> edgy: no, but find does
[02:10] <ubuntu> i-m from live cd
[02:10] <epimeth> that can't be right... what are you doing?
[02:11] <epimeth> ubuntu: ^
[02:11] <ubuntu> i/m trying to copy my home directory
[02:11] <edgy> epimeth: is there a way I tell find not to search recursively?
[02:11] <epimeth> find?  yea... don't remember tho
[02:11] <_4strO> edgy: ls | grep .{0,5}
[02:11] <epimeth> man find
[02:12] <epimeth> _4strO: good call
[02:13] <edgy> _4strO: $ ls | grep .{0,5}
[02:13] <edgy> grep: .5: No such file or directory
[02:13] <_4strO> but not sure about the regex or the grep options
[02:13] <epimeth> ls | egrep '^.{0,5}$'
[02:14] <_4strO> epimeth: :)
[02:15] <edgy> thx a lot epimeth and _4strO
[02:15] <_4strO> i do never remember this f$$ egrep command :p
[02:15] <epimeth> edgy: no worries
[02:15] <epimeth> _4strO: well then, thats just embarrasing!
[02:16] <ubuntu> epimeth: help
[02:16] <epimeth> _4strO: what sort of a self respecting linux man doesn't know regexps back to front
[02:16] <Jucato> ahem. that would be me
[02:17] <dcorbin_> Jucato: time to learn.  They're really quite handy :)
[02:17] <_4strO> in fact i use grep -e
[02:17] <Jucato> dcorbin_: of course. I never meant to say I won't be :)
[02:17] <epimeth> *cough*thatsthesameasegrep*cough*
[02:17] <_4strO> ls | grep -e '^.{0,5}$'
[02:17] <epimeth> ubuntu: yea... what exectly are you doing to get the perms error?
[02:17] <epimeth> why add two characters?  we're supposed to be lazy
[02:18] <_4strO> ubuntu: which /home do you want copy ?
[02:19] <ubuntu> epimeth: i-m tryng to copy from kdeu konqueror  my home to a usb drive, i-m from live cd
[02:19] <epimeth> ubuntu: and the command you are using to do this is?
[02:19] <ubuntu> epimeth: i-m using the browser just drag n drop
[02:20] <_4strO> ubuntu: did you mount your hard drive ?
[02:20] <ubuntu> yes
[02:21] <_4strO> ubuntu: on your usb is mounted too with write permission ?
[02:21] <ubuntu> yes
[02:21] <epimeth> ubuntu: can you write to the usb?
[02:21] <_4strO> and*
[02:21] <ubuntu> it tell me i-ve not permission to create some files and directory not all the home content
[02:22] <_4strO> just : sudo cp yourHomeDir yourUSBStick
[02:22] <_4strO> just : sudo cp -r yourHomeDir yourUSBStick
[02:22] <_4strO> :p
[02:22] <edgy> _4strO: may be cp -a is better?
[02:22] <_4strO> dont know :p have to cp --help ;)
[02:23] <epimeth> hrm... won't doing that as sudo make all files root owned?
[02:23] <Jucato> a, --archive  Preserve as much as possible of the structure and  attributes  of  the original  files in the copy (but do not preserve directory structure). Equivalent to -dpPR.
[02:23] <edgy> epimeth: -a should preserve the permissions i guess
[02:24] <_4strO> right
[02:24] <Jucato> -r is still necessary though..
[02:24] <Jucato> or is that -R
[02:24] <edgy> Jucato: -r is implied in -a
[02:24] <Jucato> yeah I forgot
[02:24] <edgy> Jucato: yes -r and -R same
[02:24] <llutz> Jucato: -r is the same as -R
[02:24] <Jucato> lol and I'm the one that pasted it :P
[02:24] <_4strO> :p
[02:30] <OutoLumo> I have a problem... I tried to compile latest ktorrent from sources, but the .configure script failed with "conftest.c:10:28: error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[02:38] <console> hi
[02:38] <console> i need help for squid and shorewall
[02:38] <console> some one can help me
[02:39] <console> #shrewall
[02:39] <console> #shorewall
[02:40] <arun> how do i open ports using kubuntu?
[02:41] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me get my r2500 wifi cards working with 7.04?  They were working under 6.10 before the upgrade yesterday.
[02:47] <tominglis> hi, does anyone know if opera 9 and realplayer 10 are in the commercial repository?
[02:47] <druntar> Why am I constantly catching crap from people because I use kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[02:47] <tominglis> i don't seem to be able to find them there
[02:47] <arun> how do i open listening ports using kubuntu
[02:47] <tominglis> for feisty
[02:48] <boyee> [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[02:48] <boyee> what is this mean?
[02:48] <arun> you need to register on IRC
[02:48] <arun> and then type your password to 'identify' yourself
[02:51] <kdehl> Hi there. I just wondered how I can close a DVD that I've burnt but apparently forgot to close. I can't find any option for it in k3b, nor does cdrecord support DVDs, and I can't find a version in Adept that does. What do I do?
[02:52] <dcorbin_> I have no audio on my newly installed Kubuntu system.  The mixer shows volume "up" and all enabled.  What's the next thing to check?
[02:53] <Alextremo> ((((((((((( wenos dias )))))))))))))))))))
[02:53] <Yorokobi> !audio | dcorbin_
[02:53] <ubotu> dcorbin_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:55] <dcorbin_> ubotu: I don't have "System Settings" on my Kmenu.  I have "System" and "Settings" but neither refers to Sound.  But artsd is in the process list.
[02:55] <Yorokobi> !bot | dcorbin_
[02:55] <ubotu> dcorbin_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:56] <dcorbin_> Yorokobi: some days I'm slower than other :)
[02:56] <Yorokobi> That's me every day
[02:56] <Yorokobi> Just ask around :)
[02:57] <Yorokobi> dcorbin_: do you have kcontrol installed? If not 'sudo apt-get install kcontrol' in Konsole
[02:57] <dcorbin_> Jucato: probably because I copied my OLD home directory over...
[02:57] <Jucato> kcontrol is always installed
[02:57] <dcorbin_> Yorokobi: yes, I have kcontrol
[02:57] <Jucato> ah probably overwrote the K menu settings
[02:58] <yendor> question! :P
[02:58] <Yorokobi> answer! d:
[02:58] <yendor> I installed Kubuntu on my lappy... eveyrthing works like a dream BUT I was wondering...
[02:59] <yendor> I use my headphones with it..theydo work but they do have a low volume.. and I mean with full volume on
[02:59] <Amokloipher> hi
[02:59] <yendor> perhaps you have encountered something similar .. me dunno
[02:59] <dcorbin_> Jucato: although a large number of them seem to be there (for example, the adept stuff)
[03:00] <Yorokobi> dcorbin_: were you using KDE on your gentoo box?
[03:00] <yendor> OH I FIGURED IT OUT!!
[03:00] <dcorbin_> Yorokobi: yes.
[03:00] <yendor> now my Kubuntu is 100%
[03:01] <yendor> btw.. Beryl is worth buying and trashing vista for lol...
[03:01] <Jucato> dcorbin_: um... you can always check with Alt+F2, "systemsettings"
[03:01] <yendor> sorry couldnt hold that in :P
[03:01] <Yorokobi> dcorbin_: 'mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-backup' log out of KDE, log back in, see if everything is 'default' Kubuntu-style
[03:01] <Wharfedale> Hi there.
[03:01] <Wharfedale> I have a big laptop problem.
[03:02] <Wharfedale> My laptop's dvd drive only reads origanal cd's and dvds for some reason, think it's on its way out.
[03:02] <dcorbin_> Yorokobi: I have my original kubuntu home directory backed up.  Do you think that those .KDE settings might affect the sound problem that's not fixible just using kmix?
[03:02] <yendor> hmm.. do you mean like in regions?
[03:02] <Wharfedale> I have the Kubuntu ISO on my laptop
[03:02] <Wharfedale> yendor, na anything burned.
[03:03] <Wharfedale> I burned Kubunto to dvd and it can't read it.
[03:03] <Wharfedale> If i put ubuntu 5.5 or what ever it was in, which is an origonal cd, it reads :S
[03:03] <Yorokobi> dcorbin_: Were I you, I'd restore things from your former $HOME piecemeal and watch what breaks; particularly the hidden files/directories
[03:03] <Wharfedale> I was wondering, is there a way i can get linux installed using a iso.
[03:04] <Wharfedale> im currently on vista.
[03:04] <dcorbin_> My bad. I do have sound.  My original sound test was flawed, and failing for other reasons.  Thanks though for all help.
[03:04] <Wharfedale> the laptop boot options in bois only allow me to do, Network boot, CD boot or HDD
[03:04] <Wharfedale> Not sure what Network boot it.
[03:04] <Wharfedale> is*
[03:08] <roconnor> Is there a KDE package that gives a visual diff program similar to gnome's "meld"?
[03:10] <JeeBee> roconnor: perhaps kompare is what you're looking for? though i never heard about meld ...
[03:11] <roconnor> I just found kdiff3, I'll try kompare as well
[03:11] <JeeBee> roconnor: belongs to package kdesdk (but be ware, i'm a fedora user ;))
[03:12] <roconnor> ah, kompare looks really nice
[03:12] <roconnor> very much like meld
[03:12] <roconnor> er, almost identical
[03:14] <roconnor> ... except that I can only apply changes one way.
[03:18] <hugelmopf> does anybody else have this problem since edgy->feisty upgrade: when i resume from suspend-to-disk, my screen is so messed up, that I have to switch to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and back to Ctrl-Alt-F7 before it looks sane, and even then my KDE background is gone and replaced by simple white or weird stripes.
[03:19] <tanguy> Bonjour
[03:19] <Timsen> Wharfedale: the network boot option allow you to boot from a dhcp server which serves a mounted iso file as bootimage
[03:21] <Wharfedale> Timsen, how do i use that dude
[03:21] <Wharfedale> I mean
[03:21] <Wharfedale> How i get network boot to read a image
[03:22] <Wharfedale> Also, i mean network boot like this
[03:22] <Wharfedale> http://keynes.scuole.bo.it/retelocale/tserver/img/ltspnetboot.jpg
[03:23] <epimeth> okay... weird things are happening... I log in and either knetworkmanager or kmix aren't working... this is consistantly... also, half the time amarok won't start... I have to kill the processes and restart it once, twice, sometimes three or more times
[03:24] <The_Alexander> hello. can you suggest me any good video editor for KDE?
[03:24] <Timsen> Wharfedale: just take look at this howto: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[03:24] <tominglis> yes, kino for basic editing
[03:24] <tominglis> cinerella for more complicated stuff
[03:24] <Jucato> although it isn't a KDE app
[03:24] <The_Alexander> kino supports only avi
[03:24] <tominglis> oh
[03:25] <The_Alexander> so Ill have to rip for avis
[03:25] <tominglis> there aren't really any kde ones are there, apart from kdenlive?
[03:25] <The_Alexander> with dvdrip it takes ages
[03:25] <Jucato> you'll have to check with kde-apps.org
[03:25] <Jucato> but kdenlive seems to be the most famous one right now
[03:25] <The_Alexander> I dont mind any multi-DE
[03:25] <tominglis> does anyone know what the difference is between helix player and real player?
[03:25] <The_Alexander> kino will be ok
[03:25] <The_Alexander> but how to rip avi quite fast?
[03:26] <tominglis> i am fed up with website movies and things not working with the mplayer plugin, and so was going to install helix player from the repo?
[03:26] <tominglis> has anyone done that? does helix have the same formats as real?
[03:26] <jesusiyo> how install vware in kubuntu?
[03:27] <Wharfedale> I can't install debian packges cause im running windows.
[03:27] <JuJuBee> I finally got my rt2500 wifi card working.  I have 2.  I have a route "169...." in route -n listing.  How do I remove it permanently?
[03:27] <Timsen> which kubuntu version are you running jesusiyo
[03:27] <jesusiyo> 7.04 feisty
[03:27] <druntar> !effects
[03:27] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[03:27] <Timsen> then you just have to add the canonical repositories and then you can install it with aptitude
[03:28] <jesusiyo> i dont know how
[03:28] <Timsen> i gues you want to install the free vmware server to create vmwarez, or do you just want to start them via vmware-player?
[03:29] <jesusiyo> i dont knows how install o download it
[03:30] <Timsen> okay jesusiyo can you open the file /etc/apt/sources.list with root pls
[03:30] <Timsen> or with sudo
[03:30] <Amokloipher> hey, i have a problem with a package that wasnt instaled correctly and now adept and apt-get....adept returns me "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[03:30] <Amokloipher> oh
[03:30] <Amokloipher> sry for that much text
[03:30] <Amokloipher> can you help me?
[03:30] <pag> Amokloipher, try sudo apt-get install -f
[03:31] <Amokloipher> i try
[03:32] <druntar> how do I access ntfs partitions from kubuntu
[03:32] <druntar> ?
[03:32] <druntar> !ntfs
[03:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:32] <druntar> !ntfs-3g
[03:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:32] <Amokloipher> couldn't find package, pag
[03:33] <butters> so im looking at the mousehowto section
[03:33] <butters> and there are some confusing bits
[03:33] <butters> anyone able to help
[03:33] <pag> Amokloipher, hmm.. have you made any changes in repositories lately?
[03:33] <Amokloipher> no
[03:34] <Amokloipher> installed the system yesterday
[03:34] <Amokloipher> the problem is since i tried to install the JDK
[03:34] <Amokloipher> the insallaton failed
[03:34] <pag> ok. Well you could try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[03:34] <pag> !jdk
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <pag> Amokloipher, do you have Universe and/or mutltiverse enabled?
[03:35] <dr_willis> anyone else been having lots of crashes with ktorrent in feisty?
[03:35] <Amokloipher> where do i look that up?
[03:36] <cWolfe> someone suggested to turn off DHT or upgrade dr_willis
[03:36] <pag> !universe | Amokloipher
[03:36] <ubotu> Amokloipher: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:36] <dr_willis> ok lets try that
[03:36] <dr_willis> dht was on. Now its off. :)
[03:36] <dr_willis> proberly the RIAA/MPAA attacking through it! yea.. lets start the paranoia! :)
[03:37] <pag> Amokloipher, try to enable those, and the run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -f
[03:37] <arun> How does one open a listening port in Kubuntu?
[03:37] <dr_willis> arun,  port to do what?
[03:37] <cWolfe> n one is connecting to me on oink now though.. which is weird because oink is a private tracker.. dht not needed  anyway
[03:37] <arun> dr_willis: as in, i've installed azureus, and i need to open a port
[03:37] <arun> how do i do it?
[03:37] <Amokloipher> k
[03:37] <cWolfe> it doesnt matter though.. im not clever, at school
[03:37] <arun> is it possible?
[03:38] <cWolfe> arun use upnp
[03:38] <dr_willis> arun,  you got a router or stuff btween you and the internet?
[03:38] <arun> yeah, i have a router, but it's a common router for everyone in my building
[03:38] <The_Alexander> what is linux tool to rip avis from DVD, except of DVD::RIP?
[03:38] <dr_willis> Its possible its blocking it.
[03:38] <luisgmarine> If I installed Ubuntu, and I installed the Kubuntu-desktop but I like Kubuntu better, is it possible to get rid of the gnome desktop without having to re-install ?
[03:39] <arun> dr_willis: any chance of bypassing it?
[03:39] <arun> luisgmarine: yes
[03:39] <dr_willis> luisgmarine,  i normally just install and keep them both. ubuntu-desktop has some nice tools on occasion
[03:39] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, I'm I going to see any problems from having both of them though?
[03:39] <cWolfe> aruncant you just talk to whoever runs your network?
[03:40] <cWolfe> arun, cant..
[03:40] <arun> cWolfe: i guess i could, but if there's a way to do it without calling my isp, then that's better
[03:40] <cWolfe> school? or an aprtment?
[03:40] <dr_willis> luisgmarine,  nope. shouldent any problems.
[03:41] <pag> luisgmarine, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde <- here's the instructions; use at your own risk
[03:41] <dr_willis> luisgmarine,  you might notice some quirks when mixxing kde+gnome apps. but ive rarely had any issues.
[03:41] <arun> cWolfe: apartment
[03:42] <Aoki> its possible to mount to point f the file system on the same partition?
[03:42] <cWolfe> try the upnp plugin, if that doesnt open up a port, talk to the isp, or the guy who runs it in the aprtment
[03:42] <Aoki> like /home and /opt on a same disk, like /dev/sda2
[03:43] <butters> coudl someone help me with mapping buttons?
[03:43] <butters> mouse buttons that is
[03:43] <arun> what upnp plugin?
[03:43] <dr_willis> Aoki,  may be better to use 'links' ( ln -s /place1  /path/to/place2 )
[03:43] <Timsen> butters ask you question
[03:43] <cWolfe> azuereus should have a upnp plugin somewhere to enable in its options
[03:44] <butters> ive been looking at the button mapping stuff.
[03:44] <Aoki> mhhh
[03:44] <cWolfe> butters, what brand mouse?
[03:44] <Timsen> do you have a 5 button mouse?
[03:44] <butters> and all i want to do is add forward/back functions to my thum buttons
[03:44] <cWolfe> butters, what brand mouse?
[03:44] <Aoki> but then if the partition where place2 crash
[03:44] <butters> MS Bluetooth Intellimouse Explorer i believe
[03:44] <dr_willis> I recall the Gentoo Wiki pages - had some HUGE details on tweaking Multibutton mice :) not sure if the ubuntu docs have caught up.
[03:44] <Aoki> i lose place2 but no place1
[03:44] <Aoki> what i want is to separate /op and /home from /
[03:45] <Aoki> but only with two partitons
[03:45] <dr_willis> Aoki,  i alsays get the arguments backwards for linking stuff.
[03:45] <Aoki> one for the rrot, and one for /opt and /home
[03:45] <cWolfe> butters,  http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Mouse_side_buttons    http://dotnet.org.za/matt/pages/39097.aspx
[03:45] <cWolfe> one of those should work for you
[03:45] <dr_willis> Aoki,  ive mounted partition #2 as /storage then made links from /home and /opt to be --> /storage/home and /storage/opt befor.
[03:46] <Aoki> ahhh
[03:46] <Aoki> ok ok
[03:46] <Aoki> so delte the real /opt
[03:46] <Timsen> butters check your xorg.conf section for the mouse
[03:46] <Aoki> create a link to the real opt tha is in home
[03:46] <JuJuBee> Can someone pls tell me how to remove a route "169.254.0.0" from my routing table permanently?  It reappears every time I reboot..
[03:46] <Aoki> something like that?
[03:47] <dr_willis> Aoki,  MOVE it first.. make the dir and link. then move the stuff to the new /opt
[03:47] <Aoki> a link called /opt that points to /home/.opt/
[03:47] <Aoki> ok, ok
[03:48] <Aoki> thank you very much
[03:49] <arun> azureus says i have a NAT problem
[03:50] <cWolfe> yeah, its right arunb :)
[03:50] <Wharfedale> Hi there, is there a netboot image for  Kubuntu 7.04
[03:50] <arun> cWolfe: how do i fix it? :)
[03:50] <cWolfe> Wharfedale, its the same image for both
[03:50] <cWolfe> its lets you choose gnome, kde or xfce
[03:50] <arun> when i use utorrent on windows i get an average speed of 60kbps.. with azureus, i'm getting 1.4kb/s
[03:51] <Wharfedale> cWolfe i dont mean a live boot
[03:51] <Wharfedale> I mean
[03:51] <Wharfedale> Net Install sorry
[03:51] <cWolfe> arun, if the upnp plugin doesnt work, you will need access to change the setting in the router
[03:51] <dr_willis> arun,  could try ktorrent. :)
[03:51] <dr_willis> arun,  also ya can 'wine utorrent.exe'
[03:51] <SlimeyPete> torrents are notoriously unreliable... it may just be that the torrent is running slow at the moment, and that it'll pick up later...
[03:51] <Wharfedale> cWolfe, is there a netinstall image around for it?
[03:52] <Wharfedale> like the old version of ubuntu and stuff
[03:52] <cWolfe> Wharfedale, i know, that how i installed on my lappy
[03:52] <Wharfedale> cWolfe, how bigs the image ?
[03:53] <cWolfe> Wharfedale, im not sure, my memory sucks, i may have used a debian net install, with ubuntu packges, and a homerolled ubuntu kernel on the disk
[03:53] <Wharfedale> ahh
[03:54] <cWolfe> Wharfedale, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ might explain it
[03:54] <cWolfe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555
[03:55] <kasase> hi
[03:55] <arun> cWolfe: ktorrent keeps fluctuating between 2kb/s to 11kb/s
[03:55] <arun> like every second it's a different speed
[03:55] <arun> i guess i can never use torrents again :p
[03:56] <Amokloipher> pag: sudo apt-get install -f returns "dpkg serious warning: sun-java-jre filelist is missing"
[03:56] <dr_willis> thats call reporting acurate speeds. :)
[03:56] <dr_willis> other tools maybe recording/averaging the Info out over time.
[03:56] <arun> but then it dies after 2 mins
[03:57] <arun> stalls
[03:57] <arun> i guess i just have to find the right port?
[03:57] <druntar> can anyone tell me how to set a program to load at startup?
[03:57] <pag> Amokloipher, try sudo aptitude reinstall sun-java-jre
[03:57] <cWolfe> ktorrent should work whether or not the port is open
[03:58] <cWolfe> druntar
[03:58] <cWolfe> in .kde/Autostart/ make a script
[03:58] <cWolfe> make sure its chmod +x
[03:59] <arun> does kubuntu have a firewall or something?
[03:59] <cWolfe> uh, i dont think so, not by default
[03:59] <dr_willis> theres several firealling front ends you could use to confiure the linux firewall features
[03:59] <arun> i dont know what it is, now i'm getting an upload speed of 100kb/s and download speed of 0.2kb/s
[03:59] <dr_willis> Guarddog os one.
[03:59] <cWolfe> nobody seeding arun?
[04:00] <butters> how do you restart x?
[04:00] <arun> the same torrent works great in windows, i dont get it
[04:00] <arun> butters: ctrl alt backspace
[04:00] <cWolfe> butters, the easy way is ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:00] <BluesKaj> arun, DL speed depends on the torrent source , not the torrent client , usually
[04:00] <butters> do you use Utorrent arun?
[04:00] <cWolfe> i agree with BluesKaj butters
[04:01] <cWolfe> lol
[04:01] <cWolfe> i meant arun
[04:01] <butters> lol, and yea i agree its more source than client, but man, utorrent never fails, too bad its not brought over to linux :((
[04:01] <arun> butters: i use utorrent in windows, and it works brilliantly
[04:01] <arun> too bad there's no linux version
[04:02] <BluesKaj> arun, Ktorrent runs fine , just try several differnt versions of the same file that you're trying to DL and you'll understand what i mean
[04:02] <rizoma> hi
[04:03] <rizoma> i want install gnome on kubuntu, i can?
[04:03] <sparrw> BluesKaj: no, ktorrent doesnt run fine.  mine refuses to upload more than a trickle when im not downloading.
[04:03] <druntar> anyone using kiba dock?
[04:03] <arun> what do you mean different versions of the same file?
[04:04] <sparrw> rizoma: you can.  i dont know the name of the package
[04:04] <cWolfe> sparrw,  it runs fine for me
[04:04] <sparrw> i think my ssh daemon has a timeout for idle connections.  how can i fix that?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> it's not refusing  druntar , the demand is on a slow connection or very far away wirh plenty of nodes acting speed governors
[04:05] <llutz> sparrw: "IdleTimeout time" in your sshd.conf
[04:05] <druntar> what?
[04:06] <CCmonster> So my mouse mappings are all screwy now!
[04:06] <CCmonster> my mouse wheel does by back and forward
[04:06] <CCmonster> lol
[04:06] <druntar> hey cWolfe someone helped me with my mouse
[04:06] <druntar> turns out it was a problem with my bios
[04:07] <rizoma> i'm installing from synaptic ubuntu desktop it's ok?
[04:08] <BluesKaj> i don't understand why ppl blame the torrent clients , when it's usually the connection file source that determines the DL and UL speed
[04:08] <sparrw> llutz: is there any way to kick idle-at-prompt users but not kick idle-with-program-running users?
[04:08] <llutz> sparrw: sry,  i don't know
[04:12] <The_Machine> I believe my network card is only working at 10 MBps.  It's a gigabit NIC card.  I have *no* idea how to go about resolving this in Kubuntu.  Could someone please give me a hand?
[04:13] <arun> YAY I GOT AZUREUS TO WORK PROPERLY
[04:13] <arun> sorry for yelling but yay
[04:14] <Psychoss> hello!
[04:14] <jager> don't you hate it when you reboot a server and it doesn't come back up
[04:14] <arun> cWolfe: you there?
[04:14] <Psychoss> where can ifound most of ubuntu commands fort the network?
[04:14] <Psychoss> like nbtstat as win or ipconfig
[04:15] <Psychoss> someone?
[04:15] <llutz> Psychoss:type  "apropos network" into a console
[04:15] <Psychoss> yes
[04:16] <Psychoss> thx
[04:16] <morpheus> anyone know where I can get linux drivers for a thinkpad r50e running kubuntu?
[04:16] <morpheus> I'm afetr graphics drivers
[04:17] <deichgraf> hi there, I want to print a PDF file with KPDF in kubuntu - but the print is way too large, it only prints the first quarter of the A4 page. what to  do? I use the HP 6980 printer.
[04:17] <The_Machine> arun- high five :)
[04:17] <arun> The_Machine: thanks!
[04:18] <deichgraf> the HPLIB tool prints the test page correctly
[04:19] <sakabatou> !sdl
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <sakabatou> !sound
[04:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:20] <deichgraf> printing in OOo works
[04:20] <cWolfe> im here arun
[04:21] <cWolfe> jager, it suck when the server is 300 miles away :)
[04:21] <arun> cWolfe: i got azureus to download stuff at good speeds and then i screwed it up
[04:21] <cWolfe> :)
[04:21] <jager> i know
[04:21] <arun> by typing some command to open the port
[04:21] <jager> i'm in iowa
[04:21] <arun> in konsole
[04:21] <jager> server is in florida
[04:21] <michele_> HELLO
[04:21] <michele_> XD
[04:21] <jager> very bad
[04:21] <cWolfe> good news jager, ill be there on saturday, but its been down since march
[04:21] <jager> not a happy jager
[04:21] <cWolfe> :)
[04:22] <arun> how do i reset the iptables to default
[04:22] <cWolfe> hmm, i dunno arun
[04:22] <jager> there custmer server link is dead too
[04:22] <andy_> has anyone upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 ?
[04:22] <jager> i did
[04:22] <jager> worked ok
[04:22] <andy_> I jsut did it, and it didn't work properly
[04:22] <jager> broke nvidia
[04:22] <cWolfe> andy_  i did on my laptop
[04:22] <The_Un-Named> how do I browse my file system as root?
[04:22] <andy_> what's the upgrade application, I want to run it again, cause it didn't complete before :(
[04:23] <andy_> it's not update-manager -c on KDE is it ?
[04:23] <llutz> arun: try iptables -X
[04:23] <Psychoss> some commands won't work on network interface like"networks"
[04:23] <arun> llutz: are you sure that'll work?
[04:24] <cWolfe> http://bbspot.com/News/2007/05/future-version-of-ubuntu.html  <-- not exactly on topic, but funny
[04:25] <The_Un-Named> does anyone know how I can browse as the root user in konqueror?
[04:25] <arun> The_Un-Named: sudo konqueror
[04:25] <Dr_Willis_Home> logical eh>? :)
[04:25] <Dr_Willis_Home> also can be very dangerous
[04:25] <The_Un-Named> thanks arun
[04:26] <ardchoille> Morning
[04:26] <CCmonster> alright so has anyone else had to map their mouse keys? because this is frustrating
[04:27] <Cnl_Delta> hi, how do i open a port in kubuntu from a fresh install
[04:27] <cWolfe> CCmonster,  yes, what brand of mouse
[04:27] <ardchoille> The_Un-Named: kdesu kfmclient exec /path/to/start
[04:27] <llutz> Cnl_Delta: open for what?
[04:27] <Cnl_Delta> a game
[04:27] <llutz> Cnl_Delta: start the game
[04:27] <Cnl_Delta> it says i need to open port xxxx if a server isn't found
[04:28] <ardchoille> !kdesu | kdesu
[04:28] <ubotu> kdesu: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:28] <llutz> Cnl_Delta: "open it" in your router (if you use one)
[04:28] <Psychoss> wahou
[04:28] <Cnl_Delta> no router
[04:28] <Psychoss> i need a book
[04:28] <Cnl_Delta> just basic kubuntu
[04:28] <Psychoss> lol
[04:29] <Cnl_Delta> oh well i guess its file edit time then
[04:29] <llutz> Cnl_Delta: since when does kubuntu uses filtering?
[04:29] <Psychoss> basic why?
[04:29] <Cnl_Delta> hmm maybe the game needs to have some settings changed
[04:29] <CCmonster> It is a MS Bluetooth Mouse
[04:31] <Psychoss> what is a stream on kubuntu?
[04:32] <The_Un-Named> is it possible to password protect a folder in kubuntu?
[04:32] <BluesKaj> Psychoss, it couldbe a data stream from a sourcefile, like torrent or internet radio, or video
[04:32] <llutz> Psychoss: the same as in other OSes
[04:32] <Psychoss> ok thx a lot blueskaj
[04:32] <booboonga> hi there, guyz!
[04:33] <booboonga> i'm thinking about switching to kubuntu from win
[04:33] <booboonga> but i have a question...
[04:34] <fritz> and
[04:35] <booboonga> my scanner is a mustek bearpaw,
[04:35] <Dr_Willis_Home> :)
[04:35] <booboonga> and i found this link
[04:35] <booboonga> (just wait a sec as i copy it)
[04:35] <Dr_Willis_Home> ive had good luck with scanners under linux. but  it will pay to google for that specific scanner and how well its supported with 'sane' :)
[04:36] <The_Un-Named> booboonga, if your worried about no compatible drivers for your scanner, just install kubuntu along side with windows as a dual boot and just boot into windows when you need to scan something
[04:36] <The_Un-Named> kubuntu can read windows files
[04:36] <Dr_Willis_Home> i wonder if the live cd has scanner support
[04:36] <booboonga> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/mepis-help/85519-mustek-bearpaw-1200-cu-plus.html
[04:36] <booboonga> there you go
[04:36] <booboonga> oh, sorry...
[04:36] <booboonga> where do i get the live cd?
[04:37] <fritz> i have problem with gcc compilator, i can't compilate c++
[04:37] <Psychoss> mkpasswd -H md5
[04:37] <Psychoss> oups
[04:38] <KoZ> hello
[04:38] <fritz> hi
[04:38] <Dr_Willis_Home> Fri13,  you installed the build-essential packages?
[04:38] <KoZ> a noob here .. can someone help me enable Desktop effects on kubuntu ?
[04:38] <KoZ> like Cube and wobbly window ?
[04:38] <Psychoss> something i thin kvery for us but not for me hum to ad a favorite link in ubuntu :p
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !beryl | KoZ
[04:38] <ubotu> KoZ: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:38] <Jucato> !compiz | KoZ
[04:38] <ubotu> KoZ: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:38] <booboonga> where do i get the live cd?
[04:38] <Psychoss> easy
[04:38] <Dr_Willis_Home> I had those enabled.. for an hr.
[04:39] <Dr_Willis_Home> then disabled them :)
[04:39] <Rythan> !beryl | Koz
[04:39] <ubotu> Koz: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:39] <KoZ> I though Feisty have them already
[04:39] <Rythan> You have to add them
[04:39] <KoZ> I only have to enable somewhere in the settings
[04:39] <Rythan> They are not there by default
[04:40] <explore> booboonga: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/  called " desktop-cd"
[04:40] <Dr_Willis_Home> ububunto has them i think not kubuntu
[04:40] <Jucato> KoZ: only on Ubuntu. not in Kubuntu
[04:40] <KoZ> oh ..damn :(
[04:40] <booboonga> where do i get the live cd for kubuntu?
[04:40] <Rythan> booboonga: kubuntu.org
[04:41] <KoZ> which one is better beryl or compiz ?
[04:42] <KoZ> for ATI
[04:42] <Feldegast> they r different
[04:42] <Rythan> KoZ: Hmmm I use Beryal
[04:42] <Rythan> er Beryal
[04:42] <Rythan> Grrr
[04:42] <Rythan> Beryl
[04:42] <KoZ> I think there used to be a black-window problem in beryl
[04:42] <Feldegast> i don't have ati so i can't say
[04:42] <KoZ> is it fixed yet ?
[04:42] <Rythan> Neither do I
[04:42] <BluesKaj> Rythan, which ATI ?
[04:42] <Feldegast> that iirc was due to memory issues
[04:42] <Rythan> BluesKaj: No NVidia
[04:42] <KoZ> x700 64 MB
[04:43] <BluesKaj> sorry Rythan...misread
[04:43] <Feldegast> er 6600
[04:43] <sparrw> i have a radeon 9000 mobility and X.org 7.2.0, am i screwed?
[04:43] <lupul> !nvidia
[04:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <BluesKaj> KoZ, which ATI ?
[04:43] <Rythan> BluesKaj: Heh np
[04:43] <KoZ> BluesKaj: X700
[04:43] <KoZ> mobile edition
[04:44] <dcorbin_> I cannot get my video card to talk to both monitors.  I went through the KDE monitor/display setup, restarted X.  Just one port is working.  No errors or complaints in the log that I could find.  Ideas?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  #1 what video card.
[04:45] <dcorbin_> Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis_Home> trivial then. :) or should be.
[04:45] <explore> KoZ, there is a workaround for that black window problem
[04:45] <sparrw> lupul: kneejerk much?
[04:45] <Jucato> !dualview
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <Jucato> bah wrong factoid
[04:45] <Unix_Jihad> beryl and compiz are the same now, the projects have merged, and is called "Composite Community"
[04:45] <dcorbin_> The second display is going throw a "connector adapter" I just got from IT.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis_Home> backup your existing xorg.conf file befor doing anything however. :)
[04:46] <Dr_Willis_Home> conector adaptor?
[04:46] <Jucato> !dual monitors | dcorbin_
[04:46] <ubotu> dcorbin_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:46] <Dr_Willis_Home> whats that?
[04:46] <sparrw> Unix_Jihad: maybe together they can make a kde pager that supports viewports and desktops
[04:46] <silvia> hallo out there
[04:46] <aes52_> has anyone foudn that Konversation has stopped working?
[04:46] <silvia> haben wir ein deutsches forum??
[04:47] <Jucato> !de | silvia
[04:47] <ubotu> silvia: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:47] <silvia> danke - wie schalte ich dahin??
[04:47] <KoZ> !compiz
[04:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:47] <Dr_Willis_Home> backup the xorg.conf file and try     'sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview ' and restart X is about all i do on my 2 headed box. :)
[04:47] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home: Both monitors have the standard VGA connection.  But the cards has one VGA connector and one that I think is designed for LCDs.  So, an adapter to convert to standard VGA.
[04:47] <arun> how do i reset the iptables :(
[04:47] <arun> -X didn't work
[04:47] <Unix_Jihad> iptables -F
[04:47] <arun> ok?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  oh a dvi-->vga adaptor. shouldent matter
[04:48] <Unix_Jihad> will flush all current rules
[04:48] <arun> thanks!
[04:48] <arun> do i need to restart x after that
[04:48] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home: I don't see have nvidia-xconfig on mpath.  I'll see if I can install it.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  yea i may installed that beforhand. :) im so used to auto installing a lot of things. i even wrote a script for my systems
[04:48] <explore> silvia: "/join #kubuntu-de"
[04:49] <silvia> ok, danke
[04:49] <silvia> hallo alle hier
[04:50] <The_Machine> I believe my network card is only working at 10 MBps.  It's a gigabit NIC card.  I have *no* idea how to go about resolving this in Kubuntu.  Could someone please give me a hand?
[04:50] <KoZ> which one is better for ATI
[04:50] <KoZ> compiz or beryl ?
[04:50] <amnesiac-3LiT3> hi folks
[04:50] <silvia> kenn sich hier jemand mit ntfs platten extern usb aus?
[04:50] <sparrw> KoZ: same thing
[04:50] <dcorbin_> BRB
[04:50] <sparrw> Is there an accelerated driver to get an ATI Radeon 9000 Mobility working in X.org 7.2.0?
[04:50] <Jucato> silvia: please go to #kubuntu-de
[04:51] <Unix_Jihad> also iptables -X will delete all non default chains
[04:51] <amnesiac-3LiT3> fgrlx driver is working
[04:51] <silvia> @jucato: hw to switch to #kubuntu-de?
[04:51] <sparrw> amnesiac-3LiT3: ati dropped support for the 9000 in the fglrx driver
[04:51] <sparrw> silvia: /join #kubuntu-de
[04:52] <Jucato> silvia: type /join #kubuntu-de
[04:52] <Jucato> or just click on the name
[04:52] <lupul> does anyone here have an nvidia card?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis_Home> lots of us
[04:52] <silvia> hmmm.. seems to fail... tried it twice witout effect
[04:52] <Dr_Willis_Home> perhaps most of us even
[04:52] <sparrw> !nvidia
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <lupul> i tried there
[04:53] <lupul> i want to know which packages i have to  install
[04:53] <lupul> i need xorg sdk
[04:53] <lupul> and........?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis_Home> xorg sdk? Hmm.. thats a new one on me.
[04:53] <lupul> software development kit
[04:54] <Dr_Willis_Home> http://www.maximumpc.com/linux?page=0%2C2   - has a little tutoral for installing the nvidia drivers
[04:54] <Dr_Willis_Home> I know what sdk means.. i dont see or recall the nvidia drivers ever needing it for my systems :)
[04:54] <cabled_> one of my users managed to disable his keyboard......where would i look to re enable it?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis_Home> unless compiling the new drivers from nvidia i guess.
[04:54] <lupul> that's what it says to me
[04:54] <silvia> ok, so I try here - how di I mount a external ntfs hdd in 7.04??
[04:55] <The_Machine> anyone?  :(
[04:55] <The_Machine> bueller?
[04:55] <KoZ> !automatix
[04:55] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:55] <Psychoss> butters@c-68-58-56-4.hsd1.in.comcast.ne what this adress?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis_Home> :)
[04:55] <Dr_Willis_Home> plus with feisty - its getting more and more not needed
[04:56] <KoZ> automatix ?
[04:56] <enid> ubotu, grub
[04:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:57] <silvia> Hi there, need help to mount an usb-ntfs HDD under feisty
[04:58] <The_Machine> silva - get automatix
[04:58] <Dr_Willis_Home> no dont get automatix.
[04:58] <The_Machine> there is a tool under it that you can install that will automatically mount it and give you write access
[04:58] <Dr_Willis_Home> !ntfs
[04:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:58] <The_Machine> okay, then get "NTFS configuration Tool"
[04:58] <Dr_Willis_Home> there is a ntfs configuration tool.. but i forget its name. :)
[04:58] <silvia> oh- just some urgenty warned for automatix...
[04:58] <Dr_Willis_Home> !find ntfs
[04:58] <The_Machine> Dr_Willis_Home,  :P
[04:58] <ubotu> Found: libntfs-dev, libntfs9, ntfsprogs, libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0 (and 4 others)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis_Home> it pays to learn how to mount drives also. :)
[04:59] <Dr_Willis_Home> ntfs-config - Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices
[04:59] <silvia> thanks for the link I will see...
[04:59] <Dr_Willis_Home> but im not sure how that works with USB drives.
[04:59] <amorphous_> hi all - i'm having problems with a new microphone, but cant get much help for k (well, I can - but it doesnt help me :( ) - can anyone tell me how I can find out what drivers I;m using (alsa???) and a way to test the mic so I can tell if it's working?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis_Home> since i dont hae any usb ntfs to test
[04:59] <Dr_Willis_Home> some of the docs on ntfs may be a little out of date with the releae of feisty.
[05:00] <The_Machine> Dr_Willis_Home, could you give me a hand?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis_Home> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:00] <icecruncher> !th
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about th - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <The_Machine> I believe my network card is only working at 10 MBps.  It's a gigabit NIC card.  I have *no* idea how to go about resolving this in Kubuntu.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis_Home> I like that site also. but its for the older ntfs stuff.
[05:00] <The_Machine> er.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis_Home> The_Machine,  with what?
[05:00] <The_Machine> :/ even
[05:00] <icecruncher> anybody in thailand?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis_Home> hmm
[05:00] <icecruncher> channel?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis_Home> The_Machine,  use the ifconfig command and see what it says
[05:00] <The_Machine> i have
[05:00] <The_Machine> it's confusing - here i'll do a paste one moment
[05:01] <Dr_Willis_Home> theres some other network tweaking command also.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis_Home> but i cabnt rember it - since i rarely use it.
[05:01] <bagster> Hey. I made a mistake, and removed everything on my kicker panel.. how do i reset it to default?
[05:02] <cWolfe> bagster,  remove /home/$user/.kde/share/apps/kicker   ?
[05:02] <The_Machine> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=78294
[05:02] <Jucato> er no
[05:02] <The_Machine> Dr_Willis_Home, mind looking at that?
[05:03] <Jucato> could work, but ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc should also be moved
[05:03] <The_Machine> eth1 is the card in question
[05:04] <bagster> so if i remove that folder, it will automagically reinstall itself?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis_Home> The_Machine,  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch03_:_Linux_Networking
[05:04] <Dr_Willis_Home> The_Machine,  they got a paragraph or 2 on setting nic speeds
[05:04] <cWolfe> The_Machine,   dmesg |grep eth0
[05:04] <Jucato> bagster: kickerrc is a file. the one cWolfe said is a folder. and yes it will (if you remove both)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis_Home> ethtool eth1
[05:05] <bagster> very well
[05:06] <The_Machine>  19.158707]  e100: eth1: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex
[05:06] <The_Machine> lookslike 100 Mbps
[05:06] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home: no joy.  running with the config from nvidia-xconfig, X seems to hang. OTOH, I do get the same Kubuntu logo on both screens, which is different, and when I run with my original xorg.conf, I see "noise" on the second monitor which is different.
[05:06] <The_Machine> doesn't seem like it's actually running at that speed though
[05:06] <The_Machine> slow as hell..  even doing small file transfers.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  it may need to be tweaked - since you got that adaptor.
[05:07] <dragon> hey how do i get kubuntu to play sound through my sound card instead of the onboard one?
[05:07] <The_Machine> from mi-tool - eth1: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok
[05:08] <dcorbin_> dcorbin_: suggestion on how are welcome...(I'm betting you need that log file I misplaced)
[05:08] <Dr_Willis_Home> ethtool -s eth1 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
[05:08] <Dr_Willis_Home> perhaps. Kick the nic in the head.
[05:09] <CCmonster> how do i get, mplayer, or vlc, or SOMETHING, to handle embedded video
[05:09] <CCmonster> instead of media player :(
[05:09] <dragon> any1 know?
[05:09] <bagster> back in a sec
[05:10] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home:  suggestion on how are welcome...(I'm betting you need the xorg log file?)
[05:10] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  thats the main cofnig file so yes of course. :)
[05:11] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home: yikes.  It ends with "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:11] <Dr_Willis_Home> a read of the nvidia docs/twinview sections may have some info.
[05:11] <cabled_> one of my users managed to disable his keyboard......where would i look to re enable it?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis_Home> or it may be some other odd issue. you DO have the nvidia drivers isntalled. (of course you do) :)
[05:12] <bagster> thanks alot. it worked :)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis_Home> cabled_,  as a test you could move his .kde dir to some other name
[05:12] <andy_> hey, I've got the weirdest problem now, having upgraded to 7.04 (kubuntu) from 6.10. When I shutdown my machine, then start it up, it crashes on bootup screen (with the scrolling bar). When I hit the 'reset' button my machine, it then loads right into X
[05:12] <andy_> any ideas!!?!?!?
[05:12] <andy_> or suggestions
[05:12] <sakabatou> !sound
[05:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:12] <cabled_> ill try that thanks
[05:13] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home: http://pastebin.ca/480982
[05:15] <tapas> where's the known bug page for kubutu feisty?
[05:15] <tapas> i'm having problems with network settins
[05:16] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  Mine is here ------>  http://pastebin.ca/480989
[05:16] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  thers a lot of tweaking that can bd done. My example is for my DVI monitor  + tv out.
[05:16] <Jucato> tapas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[05:16] <peeks> is there some way to force the battery to charge?
[05:17] <tapas> Jucato: thanks
[05:17] <tapas> Jucato: that's te bugtracker
[05:17] <Dr_Willis_Home> turn off the pc? :) and leave it plugged in?
[05:17] <tapas> there once was a page summarizing known bugs
[05:17] <bagster> my powe manager settings are all grayed out, can't adjust "battery powered" settings. is it a bug?
[05:17] <Jucato> tapas: I don't think the page is updated
[05:18] <peeks> if i unplug the power chord and plug it in again, battery stops charging - the battery applet says "fully charged" whatever the percentage is
[05:19] <jonathank> PriceChild: thanks for pointing that out.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis_Home> bagster,  theres several laptop-related tools you may need to install. also some of that stuff is disabled depending on the apci features of themachine.
[05:20] <bagster> aye, but it used to work, you see
[05:20] <PriceChild> jonathank, ?
[05:21] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home: I don't understand why yours and mine both have only one monitor.  Shouldn't there be too?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,   a tv on my machien IS also a monitor. :)
[05:21] <bagster> don't know what happened when it stopped working. now it
[05:21] <Dr_Willis_Home> its using both of them
[05:21] <jonathank> PriceChild: You wrote "!away > jonathank". :)
[05:21] <bagster> won't even react when i pull out the chord
[05:22] <jonathank> PriceChild: which I was not aware of.
[05:22] <dcorbin_> Dr_Willis_Home: When i search that page, the only "tv" is in a comment.
[05:22] <jonathank> PriceChild: I have taken notice.
[05:22] <PriceChild> jonathank, ahh much appreciated :)
[05:22] <Dr_Willis_Home> hmm..  let me look. It is working. actually it MAY be the xinerama/twinview is working together
[05:24] <bthibault> !repos
[05:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:24] <Dr_Willis_Home> theres some auto-select/auto stuff that may be doing it.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis_Home> that xorg.conf is differetn from some of my older ones i did by hand. MUCH smaller
[05:25] <bthibault> i haven't had any package updates since i upgraded to Feisty, is this normal ?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis_Home> Option         "MetaModes" "nvidia-auto-select, nvidia-auto-select"   - may be the imporntant part.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis_Home> bthibault,  not seen any either. :) guess thats a good sign
[05:26] <Dr_Willis_Home> dcorbin_,  the gentoo wiki page had some huge examples/guides/docs on twinview tweaking also.
[05:26] <bthibault> Dr_Willis_Home: thanks, i was starting to think something was wrong
[05:26] <tapas> what is the wifi0 interface?
[05:26] <tapas> (the wireless network card in this box really is eth1)
[05:28] <rre> ciao
[05:29] <icecruncher> help,
[05:29] <icecruncher> Restarting iptables firewall: FireHOL ...Cannot find an executables iptables command.
[05:29] <dragon> can anyone here tell me how to change alsa so it plays sound through my sound card instead of the onboard one please?
[05:29] <icecruncher> what does that mean
[05:29] <icecruncher> ?
[05:30] <rre> il canale non  in italiano?
[05:30] <rizoma> hi
[05:30] <Jucato> !it | rre
[05:30] <ubotu> rre: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:30] <rizoma> i've a nvidia 6200 i've to install nvidiaglx o nvidiaglxnew?
[05:30] <rre> tanks
[05:30] <bagster> automatix' nvidia installer is great
[05:31] <dragon> hello can anyone here tell me how to change alsa so it plays sound through my sound card instead of the onboard one please?
[05:31] <rizoma> whats the difference?
[05:31] <rizoma> automatix?
[05:31] <Jucato> !automatix
[05:31] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:31] <dragon> anyone? ... plz?
[05:32] <rizoma> nvidiaglx or nvidiaglxnew?
[05:32] <bagster> !worksforme
[05:32] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:32] <mahdi> dragon: system settings > sound should have a devices section you can select
[05:32] <bagster> works for me
[05:32] <nbcb> why does rmvb files play so laggingly in my realplayer 10?
[05:32] <nbcb> !rmvb
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <nbcb> in kubuntu
[05:33] <dragon> it does but thts not mutch help bc i dont know the location of the device ...
[05:33] <Jucato> rizoma: look at this list: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[05:33] <dragon> if i do asoundconf list it comes up with
[05:33] <dragon> Names of available sound cards:
[05:33] <dragon> VT82xx
[05:33] <dragon> YMF724F
[05:33] <Jucato> rizoma: it's divided into 3 parts. corresponding to the 3 drivers
[05:33] <nbcb> does anyone play rmvb files in kubuntu and lag too?
[05:33] <Jucato> rizoma: if your card is in the first (upper) part, then use the nvidia-glx-new
[05:34] <Lectus> Hello! I'm planning on installing either Ubuntu or Kubuntu for dual boot with WinXP. I tried both Live CDs but it seems Kubuntu runs faster than Ubuntu, although Ubuntu seems more complete with nicer applications. Is this performance difference true? When the OS is installed to hard disk will it run faster so the speed difference won't be noted?
[05:34] <porcello> hallo
[05:34] <tapas> hi porcello
[05:34] <dragon> lectus how can kubuntu run faster than ubuntu ? ... they run the same base
[05:34] <Lectus> I don't know. Is KDE lighter than Gnome?
[05:35] <Jucato> Lectus: both Ubuntu and Kubuntu have almost the same types of apps (although Ubuntu installs games by default)
[05:35] <Jucato> Lectus: also once installed, you can have access to any GNOME or KDE app. Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same repositories
[05:35] <dragon> lectus i think you would be better off with kubuntu because kde is easier to use than gnome :-)
[05:35] <rizoma> Jucato:  thanks :)
[05:36] <tapas> porcello: hi again
[05:37] <rizoma> Jucato:  now i've installed that drivers i've to do something to activate it?
[05:37] <kai> If my ktorrent is messed up, is there anyway I can fix it? It seemed like it just started crashing dailey and often
[05:37] <phlewis> hi - I can't seem to write to my usb hd. I tried using krusader in root mode, but it still says I don't have permisssions! Does anyone have any ideas wht I might do to fix this?
[05:37] <mahdi> just booted up my computer this morning, and am getting ridiculous video lag, google earth isn't even useable anymore and it informed me for the first time that i should install video drivers, what is the deal?
[05:37] <Jucato> rizoma: you also have to remember to install "linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[05:37] <mahdi> phlewis: there should be permissions inside /etc/fstab for devices such as that
[05:38] <Jucato> rizoma: then after that "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and then logout, and from the login screen menu, choose Restart X
[05:38] <phlewis> ok.
[05:38] <tapas> i'm experiencing weirdnesses of the knetworkmanager  and the kde system settings
[05:39] <tapas> the thing is: my wireless netowrk does not broadcast its ESSID (security by obscurity)
[05:39] <rizoma> Jucato: thanks
[05:39] <tapas> so i have to enter the ESSID manually..
[05:39] <mahdi> lectus: gnome is 'lighter' than KDE by most definitions, and doesn't require much setup after install.
[05:39] <tapas> the knetwormanager does not remember these manual settings over rebots
[05:39] <Lectus> dragon:  I want a distribution that runs well, out of the box on an not very faster computer (that runs XP). So
[05:39] <Lectus> I don't know why KDE seems to run faster here
[05:40] <Lectus> But I like Gnome better
[05:40] <tapas> the kde network system settings _does_ remember the settings if i adjust them there, but: it doesn't work without manualy setting the gateway
[05:40] <dragon> kubuntu does run well out of the box
[05:40] <mahdi> lectus: beats me, but if you're looking for pure performance i'd try xubuntu
[05:40] <tapas> (weird thig is: the net works, as long as i use e.g. telnet to connect to a webserver on port 80. konqueror itself simply saiys "unknown host")
[05:40] <dragon> gentoo would be the best for speed but it is hard to set up :-)
[05:40] <tapas> so basically it seems to me the wireless network settings dialogs are pretty much broken
[05:40] <NightBird> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/05/future-version-of-ubuntu.html << hahaha sweet...
[05:41] <NightBird> (and yes, before anyone asks, I do know...)
[05:41] <Lectus> My doubt is: Installing either ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu won't make difference in applications? All have the same base and can run the same apps, right?
[05:41] <Eruantalon> Lectus: Right
[05:41] <NightBird> Lectus, yes.  the only difference between ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu is the default user interface
[05:41] <NightBird> the programs still come from the some source
[05:42] <CCmonster> so how do i delete stuff in the GUI?
[05:42] <CCmonster> it currently will not let me delete files when browing in the gui
[05:42] <Lectus> KDE looks more responsive here. I don't know why, at least on the live CD Gnome runs laggy.
[05:43] <dragon> off the cd gnome does run laggy ... but once installed they should run about the same speed
 do I need to reboot after editing fstab?
[05:43] <dragon> i useually find gnome runs slightly faster thn kde after install
[05:43] <mahdi> phlewis: "sudo mount -a"
[05:43] <navets> hey does anyone know the difference between a ftp server and a home web server
[05:43] <dragon> but xubuntu would be faster still if speed is all your worried abbout
[05:43] <navets> they seem the same to me
[05:45] <Feldegast> navets ftp lets ppl upload/download files
[05:45] <Jucato> ftp can transfer files? as in users can download files from it
[05:45] <Jucato> web servers only view?
[05:45] <Feldegast> webserver lets you host websites
[05:45] <rizoma> Jucato: everithing work, but if i start compiz i lost my windows decoration
[05:45] <rizoma> i've to change something?
[05:46] <navets> i see thanks
[05:46] <Jucato> rizoma: I'm not familiar with Compiz. try going to #ubuntu-effects and see the topic there for guides
[05:46] <rizoma> ok :)
[05:47] <jhutchins> Jucato: Not sure what your question actually is.  ftp stands for File Transfer Protocol.
[05:47] <Jucato> jhutchins: it wasn't my question
[05:48] <jhutchins> I see that now.
[05:48] <Jucato> the '?' in my answers indicate that I'm not sure of my answers
[05:48] <jhutchins> Jucato: Also makes answers look like questions.
[05:50] <Lectus> I think I'll try kubuntu. I have a 40GB hard disk with WinXP installed and 18GB free. Although I don't want to use all the space. So, do you think 10GB for Kubuntu is enough? I won't be installing lots of programs. I'll just use for internet, IRC, MSN, programming and using Office tools.
[05:50] <dragon> lectus if ur just useing the net on it 5 gb should be enough :-)
[05:50] <SlimeyPete> yeah, 10GB is enough to do that sort of thing.
[05:51] <jhutchins> Lectus: You can access files stored on the windows partition, so that's still part of your usable space in linux.
[05:51] <llutz> Lectus: create 2 partitions, one for / and one for /home
[05:51] <jhutchins> Lectus: Or create a single partition.  If you chop it up, you allways end up with space where you DON'T need it.
[05:52] <navets> can anyone help me fix my sound, it is really low
[05:52] <navets> i put everything on max and compared to windows I can barley hear it
[05:52] <dragon> navets ur useing alsa?
[05:52] <navets> dragon: whats alsa?
[05:52] <dragon> navets install aumix and turn the volume up with tht ( has to be run from command line once installed)
[05:53] <navets> ok
[05:53] <Lectus> Is it safe to create the partitions from the kubuntu installer? Or do I have to use partition magic or something on Windows?
[05:54] <dragon> lectus u can safely create a partition from the kubuntu installed but i sugeust u defrag your windows partition first
[05:54] <Lectus> ok
[05:54] <CCmonster> could someone help me with my video
[05:54] <blekos> is it possible to run beryl on kubuntu?
[05:55] <mahdi> whats the command to check which version of the distro you're using?
[05:55] <Yorokobi> blekos: yes
[05:55] <mahdi> blekos: yes
[05:55] <blekos> does it crash?
[05:55] <navets> blekos: yes do you have your video card installed
[05:55] <Yorokobi> mahdi: lsb_release -a
[05:55] <blekos> yes
[05:55] <dragon> uname -r checks your kernel ver
[05:55] <mahdi> thanks.
[05:55] <Yorokobi> blekos: its pretty stable, particularly if your video card supports direct rendering
[05:56] <llutz> mahdi: lsb_release -id
[05:56] <blekos> well i got a nvidia gforce 7400
[05:57] <blekos> can i test it somehow?
[05:57] <Lectus> So, I have lots of music on my Windows NTFS partition. Will I be able to access (listen to them) from Linux?
[05:57] <dragon> lectus yes
[05:57] <blekos> lectus yes
[05:57] <Yorokobi> blekos: the only way to test it is to install it and try using it.
[05:58] <navets> dragon: aumix wont let me change my volume level
[05:58] <blekos> so, can i just eg suto aptitude install beryl?
[05:58] <dragon> navets well it should :-\ ive never had ne problems with it .... did you run it from commandline?
[05:58] <Lectus> Cool... So, I'll try to install Kubuntu now... I'll be back later
[05:58] <Yorokobi> blekos: read the install wiki at beryl-project.org
[05:58] <Lectus> thanks for the answers
[05:59] <navets> dragon: yes, it seems that i am not able to chamge my master volume anywhere, i tried using kmix to do it and other programs but it wont let me change my master volume anywhere
[06:00] <blekos> ok
[06:00] <Lectus> Just another question: If I install Ubuntu, and then install KDE if I don't like Gnome, will it be the same as if I installed Kubuntu?
[06:00] <Yorokobi> Lectus: pretty much, yes
[06:00] <imagine> Lectus: if you want to *write* to that partition you need ntfs-3g package
[06:01] <navets> Lectus: pretty much but you will have some ugly looking start menues becuase of all the apps
[06:01] <imagine> ?
[06:04] <_hugelmopf> does anybody else have this problem since edgy->feisty upgrade: when i resume from suspend-to-disk, my screen is so messed up, that I have to switch to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and back to Ctrl-Alt-F7 before it looks sane, and even then my KDE background is gone and replaced by simple white or weird stripes.
[06:05] <navets> i kind of do
[06:06] <navets> it goes crazy but only for a little bit then i type my pass word and it fixes
[06:06] <jhutchins> hugelmopf: Actually, I've had that problem in Mandriva.  Keyboard is messed up unless I switch to a console.
[06:06] <jhutchins> If I try to switch windows I get a repeating string of 8's.
[06:07] <hugelmopf> well, i think the keyboard is not messed up, because it seems that i can enter my password and it unlocks the screen. but everything is completely scrambled.
[06:07] <iwcd> I am using ubuntu feisty with kde and the taskbar has disappeared - only for my username - Help appreciated thanks :)
[06:09] <blekos> how do I restart kicker?
[06:09] <stdin> iwcd: just the taskbar, or the whole of kicker?
[06:09] <mc__> blekos:  killall kicker;nohup kicker&
[06:09] <stdin> blekos: dcop kicker kicker restart
[06:09] <Lectus> How to update to latest Kubuntu after it's installed? (I have 6.0.6 CD)
[06:09] <Yorokobi> Lectus: download the latest ISO and install from that
[06:10] <Yorokobi> Lectus: otherwise, you have to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04
[06:10] <Lectus> I don't have a free CD to burn another ISO. So, I really want to ugrade after it's installed
[06:10] <Lectus> if the upgrade will really be necessary
[06:11] <stdin> Lectus: follow this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade then this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:11] <stdin> Lectus: that will take you from 6.06 to 6.10 then to 7.04
[06:11] <Lectus> ok... thanks
[06:12] <JuJuBee> Every time I remove a route using sudo route del ... it comes back when I restart.  How to I remove it permanently.
[06:13] <dhq> hey guys is there any way to encrypt data on the internet so that my isp doesnt know what i am doin
[06:14] <stdin> dhq: maybe using tor with provoxy
[06:14] <llutz> privoxy
[06:14] <Yorokobi> dhq: look into SSH and PGP as well
[06:23] <Cnl_Delta> hi how do i force a process to display itselg
[06:23] <Cnl_Delta> i got guildwars running but i can hear the sound but not see the game on the screen or on the taskbar
[06:23] <Cnl_Delta> *itself
[06:24] <spencer> hello
[06:25] <spencer> How do I make it so I can run programs off my usb drive?
[06:28] <spencer> How do I make it so I can run programs off my usb drive?
[06:30] <BluesKaj> spencer, check the system menu/storage media , it may be listed there if it's plugged in
[06:30] <stdin> spencer: you'll have to mount it manually with the -o exec option
[06:31] <BluesKaj> actually it should show up on the desktop
[06:31] <spencer> So what should the mount line look like in fstab for options?
[06:32] <stdin> spencer: you don't put removable media in fstab
[06:32] <BluesKaj> you shouldn't have to worry about fstab
[06:32] <spencer> I don't want to have to manually mount the usb drive ever time I use it
[06:32] <stdin> spencer: unless you use the UUID, that should be ok, but don't auto mount it
[06:33] <giovani2> Alright, so both with the "desktop" live cd install, and with the final installation completed with the alternate cd, kdm/xorg/something hangs as it tries to start -- it completely locks up the system -- what's the best way to go about troubleshooting this?
[06:34] <stdin> spencer: the mount command would be "sudo mount /dev/MyUSBDevice /media/USB -o uid=$(whoami),exec"
[06:34] <giovani2> the only way I've gotten it to work is to boot in "recovery" mode, and launch kdm manually -- in which case, it all works fine
[06:34] <bobofett> So has anyone had any luck with the 7.04 upgrade tool?  I've tried many times in the past when Adept has told me there is a new version, I would click next to start the upgrade.  HD would grind for a minute or two and it would try to do something then just nothing.  Seems to have been a problem with some repositories that I've added.  Now the newest version of the upgrader actually seems to shut thoes repositories that are a problem off...and got the in
[06:34] <bobofett> ownloaded...but......
[06:35] <BluesKaj> stdin, the UUID system explanation seems very technical for us former windows guys , what's the purpose of it anyway?
[06:35] <blekos> does anybody has true transparency...?
[06:35] <sakabatou> !sound
[06:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:35] <plaa> does anyone know if its possible to get konversationss osd to work in ubuntu?
[06:35] <bobofett> As the files were being installed I had quite a few errors pop up most revolving around apache, mysql, and php it seems...tried to do report bug...nothing happens...so just click closed on all of them and install continutes.....but...
[06:35] <BluesKaj> !UUID
[06:36] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:36] <bobofett> Now at Configuring passwd...and it has just stopped...totally idle...any clues?
[06:36] <stdin> BluesKaj: well, for a removable device the name in /dev it's given can change depending on the order it's inserted, a UUID is located on the actual filesystem and is constant
[06:36] <BluesKaj> the rationale tells why , but not what :)
[06:37] <_4strO> plaa:  it work for me
[06:37] <plaa> right a way?
[06:37] <_4strO> yeo
[06:37] <_4strO> yep*
[06:37] <plaa> kubuntu?
[06:39] <stdin> BluesKaj: UUID is a unique string that is assigned to a filesystem, so you don't need to know it's actual device location
[06:39] <_4strO> yes
[06:39] <_4strO> plaa:  KDesktop: 3.5.6
[06:39] <stdin> UUID = universally unique identifier
[06:39] <bobofett> So no idea what might be happening with the upgrade just freezing at Configuring passwd.  Like what happens if I just close out because it seems like it's not going to do anytyhing now.
[06:39] <_4strO> plaa: Konversation: 1.0.1
[06:39] <cox377> hi
[06:40] <plaa> but is it possible in gnome?
[06:40] <cox377> i've got some apps
[06:40] <cox377> i wanna make a bootable cd to put them on
[06:40] <plaa> p
[06:40] <cox377> is it possible through something like K3B?
[06:40] <_4strO> haaaaa plaa didn(t understand your qustion :p
[06:40] <plaa> :)
[06:41] <dave> hey
[06:41] <dave> is it possible to "map" a path to an ssh connection?
[06:41] <dave> for example, can i work with files that are on a remote machine graphically with some kind of IDE
[06:42] <_4strO> !nfs
[06:42] <llutz> dave: use konqueror: fish://user@remote.site
[06:42] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:42] <Yorokobi> dave, yes. 'ssh -X user@host <x-app-command>
[06:42] <BluesKaj> thx stdin . I think I know what that means :)
[06:42] <Yorokobi> '
[06:43] <cox377> anyone/?
[06:44] <dave> ok - is there a way to make a link (like on the desktop) to the "fish://" command?
[06:45] <dave> yorokobi: ssh -X still must be performed from the terminal it seems, i guess using NFS i could do what i'm going for?
[06:45] <bobofett> Ok so I'm guessing no one here has any input on the frozen 7.04 upgrad then?
[06:45] <dave> to make it EVEN more compliated haha i actually have to login to 1 machine and then FROM THAT MACHINE login to my machine
[06:45] <blekos> what does sudo chown do?
[06:46] <dave> chown changes the user that owns the file
[06:46] <Yorokobi> dave, check out FreeNX (nomachine.com)
[06:46] <llutz> dave: maybe sshfs would be an alternative to nfs for you. just mount remote-directories via sshfs/fuse
[06:46] <dave> and sudo is to ensure you have privilages to do so
[06:46] <bobofett> blekos is changes the owernship of a file in Super User mode.
[06:46] <Supaplex> fish?
[06:47] <bobofett> fish is a "protocol" that is built into konqurer for handeling ssh
[06:47] <blekos> well I'm trying to run sudo chown --recursive username but nothing happens
[06:47] <blekos> get an error message
[06:47] <bobofett> you need the file too.
[06:47] <bobofett> the file you are changing the owership of.
[06:47] <cox377> does anyone here know how to make a bootable iso so i can flash my bios?
[06:48] <stdin> dave: install the package "sshfs" it lets you "mount" a directory over ssh
[06:48] <bobofett> Cox unfortuanally I still use Nero to do all my CD and DVD stuff but in theory K3B should do just about everything Nero can.
[06:48] <llutz> cox377: you'll need an image of a bootable floppy
[06:48] <rene> I would like to know how to get back my non-transparent menus...
[06:48] <Supaplex> blekos: "an error" w/o saying what is TOO VAGUE
[06:49] <cox377> llutz: cannot i not make on?
[06:49] <stdin> Yorokobi:  install the package "sshfs" it lets you "mount" a directory over ssh
[06:49] <dave> ok i just installed sshfs
[06:49] <dave> and i found online how to use it
[06:49] <blekos> lol, u r absolutely right, the error is chown: missing operand after `blekos'
[06:49] <dave> but do i have to do that every time ? (ie. sshfs hostname: mountpoint)
[06:49] <bobofett> So anyone have any idea the best place at least to ask about the frozen 7.04 upgrad problem I'm having?
[06:49] <Supaplex> blekos: you have to chown *something* :)
[06:50] <dave> i'd rather it be kind of mounted automatically
[06:50] <Supaplex> even if it's "."
[06:50] <llutz> dave: add it to /etc/fstab
[06:51] <blekos> would u mind looking at this http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/True+transparency+for+Konsole?content=48303
[06:51] <blekos> forth asterisk,
[06:51] <blekos> go to sources and make user writeable...
[06:51] <stdin> dave: add the uid=... and gud=... options to fstab tho, or only root will have access
[06:51] <bobofett> And if you don't feel like adding it to fstab then you can always add it as a bookmark in konq
[06:51] <dave> ok
[06:52] <dave> i installed the sshfs package
[06:52] <bobofett> Not the same functionality...but still easily accesable.
[06:52] <llutz> stdin: only the ssh-user has access
[06:52] <dave> but it says command not found
[06:52] <stdin> llutz: not with sshfs, as it's fuse
[06:52] <bobofett> Ok I guess I"m screwed with the 7.04 upgrade then?
[06:52] <llutz> stdin: sure
[06:53] <cox377> so no one knows how to make a bootable.iso?
[06:53] <llutz> i wouldn't use anything which allows someone else to use MY ssh-connection/mount
[06:53] <dave> ok - thanks guys - that gives me some direction , wont dabble here until i try myself :)
[06:53] <dave> unrelated question though :
[06:53] <jeff_> cox, you want a bootable iso made from within your linux os?  Or you want to make a bootable iso from some other os for linux?
[06:54] <dave> trying to resize an NTFS partition before installing Ubuntu 7.04
[06:54] <dave> i've defragged and "scandisked" as recommended
[06:54] <cox377> jeff_: hey man, i want to make a bootable iso to burn to a cd so i can flash my bios
[06:54] <dave> but i still get "an error occured while applying the operations - the following operation could not be applied to the disk - resize /dev/sda1 from 74gb to 41gb"
[06:54] <jeff_> You're using kubuntu cox?
[06:55] <cox377> jeff_: yeh, well both kubuntu and ubuntu
[06:56] <jeff_> okay, sorry, don't know a good write proggy in debian distros, but you should be able to get the .iso from a google search
[06:56] <Supaplex> cox377: mkisofs has boot options
[06:56] <jeff_> g2g
[06:57] <cox377> jeff_: cheers dude
[06:57] <blekos> supaplex: any idea?
[06:58] <Supaplex> belen: what?
[06:59] <llutz> stdin: that's what i mean: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/858
[07:00] <mikkael> will i face special problems if i try to install windows xp into `not allocated disc space` (beside the mbr/grub thing) ?
[07:02] <stdin> llutz: mount it as root (ie sudo sshfs ...) and see if the normal user can access it then
[07:02] <llutz> stdin: that wouldn't make sense to me
[07:02] <stdin> llutz: if you put the mount in fstab, then root will be mounting it, not the user
[07:02] <Cnl_Delta> hi, has anyone had applications that usually show on the taskbar, disappear from the task bar?
[07:03] <llutz> stdin: sshfs#lutz@server:/home/daten/upload /home/lutz/upload fuse defaults,noauto,user 0 0
[07:03] <llutz> stdin: related fstab-entry
[07:04] <stdin> isn't automounted tho
[07:04] <llutz> i refuse to use root for those actions
[07:04] <llutz> stdin: delete "noauto" and it is, that's not the point
[07:04] <stdin> if root mounted it, then only root would be able to access it
[07:04] <stdin> and that was the point I was making :)
[07:07] <spencer> That mount command didn't work because the device is already mounted.  When I did safely remove then /dev/sdc1 goes away and I can't run the mount command.
[07:07] <spencer> Is there anyway to really fix this no execute problem?  It worked fine in edgy
[07:08] <cyt> hello, any guys use Automatix2? Is it stable enough to used under Kubuntu?
[07:08] <stdin> cyt: no, never use it
[07:09] <dave> so anyone know how to better resize my ntfs partition?
[07:09] <cyt> stdin: So the best way to manage packages is to use adept and apt-get/aptitude?
[07:10] <stdin> spencer: the only way (i know of) is to unmount it (with pumount) and remount it (with pmount -e /dev/device)
[07:10] <stdin> cyt: yeah, if you need packages not in the repos, then install them manually with dpkg (if it's a .deb)
[07:11] <cyt> stdin: Ok thanks ;)
[07:11] <dr_willis> i dont see much need for automatix any more :)
[07:11] <cyt> stdin: Actually, I saw a review here http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3648616185.html which introduces the Automatix2.
[07:12] <stdin> well...
[07:12] <stdin> !automatix
[07:12] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:12] <dr_willis> everytyhing it used to do. is a lot easier to do with the default k/ubuntu tools now.
[07:13] <dr_willis> not all automatic of course.. but that may be do to legal/security reasons also.
[07:13] <cyt> Wow, I see, thank you guys :D
[07:14] <dr_willis> Hmm...
[07:14] <dr_willis> i find any 'review' that says Con: Automatix2 isn't a standard part of Ubuntu/Kubuntu Feisty Fawn
[07:14] <dr_willis> to be a bit.. well suspicious :)
[07:15] <dave> hey
[07:15] <dave> if i try to run QTParted from the ubuntu live cd
[07:15] <dave> it complains that i am not root
[07:15] <dr_willis> dave,  that makes sence. :)
[07:16] <stdin> dave: kdesu qtparted
[07:16] <dr_willis> well bbl.
[07:17] <dave> what is kdesu?
[07:17] <cyt> !kdesu
[07:17] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[07:18] <cox377> when installing ubuntu when seting up the "/" should bootable flag be on>?
[07:18] <dave> ok, great!
[07:18] <stdin> cox377: grub doesn't care
[07:18] <llutz> cox377: no need if you're using a boot-manager (grub/lilo)
[07:19] <dave> so would QTParted work any better than the built in GNOME partition editor?
[07:20] <stdin> dave: QTParted and GParted are just frontends to parted, so they should be the same
[07:20] <dave> hmmm
[07:20] <dave> well how else can i resize a partition :) ?
[07:21] <stdin> get partition magic?
[07:22] <stdin> that normally handles ntfs quite well
[07:22] <dave> its not free is it?
[07:23] <mikkael> Gparted does things that qtparted doesnt allow
[07:23] <stdin> dave: just found http://partitionlogic.org.uk/ :)
[07:23] <mikkael> i did resize my home folder with gparted since qtparted didnt "enable" the resize function for that partition (run from live cd)
[07:23] <navets> is there a good ssh program or ftp view or something like that
[07:24] <stdin> dave: open source too :D
[07:25] <stdin> navets: konqueror will do all that, use fish:// for shh, ftp:// for ftp and sftp:// for secure ftp (ftp over ssh)
[07:26] <navets> ok thanks
[07:26] <navets> stdin: works great thanks
[07:26] <stdin> :)
[07:27] <navets> better then firefox
[07:27] <one> fabi yey ?
[07:27] <arunkale> is there a better app than kate for coding?
[07:27] <navets> i have a question about ftp, i just set up my home desktop as an ftp server but i dont know how to access my other hard drive on there
[07:27] <stdin> arunkale: kdevelop probably
[07:27] <one> fabi hola ?
[07:28] <stdin> navets: as long as it's mounted somewhere the connected user can navigate to, you should be able to see it
[07:29] <arunkale> stdin: thanks
[07:29] <navets> stdin: its mounted to the C drive, but i want to get to the D drive. Is there a way I could mount it to MY COMPUTER
[07:30] <stdin> navets: "C drive" ? "D drive" ?? those are windows terms and mean nothing to me
[07:31] <navets> humm... ok, its mounted to HDA but i want to access HDB
[07:31] <frojnd> any program like wget for windiws to download and not streaming videos??
[07:32] <llutz> frojnd: wget
[07:32] <stdin> navets: /dev/hda and /dev/hdb are devices, not partitions, and also not mountpoints. eg: you can mount /dev/hdb1 to /music
[07:34] <navets> stdin: ok... im not sure how to explain it because my home desktop is running windows
[07:35] <navets> is there a divx for linux?
[07:35] <arunkale> navets: you can download vlc player
[07:35] <arunkale> it plays your divx/xvid files
[07:35] <arunkale> it plays pretty much everything, actually
[07:35] <frojnd> [19:33]  <llutz> frojnd: wget  That's for wget
[07:36] <frojnd> I said so.. I need for linux
[07:36] <llutz> frojnd: sudo aptitude install wget (but it already should be installed)
[07:36] <frojnd> llutz: where?
[07:36] <navets> arunkale: do you know if vlc player will work with firefox to automatically stream divx media?
[07:36] <llutz> frojnd: type wget  on konsole
[07:37] <frojnd> Usage: wget [OPTION] ... [URL] ..
[07:40] <klaus_> ?
[07:40] <klaus_> shitty username
[07:40] <Matrixritter> ah
[07:40] <Matrixritter> hi everyone
[07:48] <everson> oiiieieieieieieedie
[07:54] <maxcxam>      
[07:54] <Yorokobi> !ru | maxcxam
[07:54] <ubotu> maxcxam:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:56] <Blu3> what is the default software package in kubuntu 7.04 for batter/power/acpi management?
[07:59] <hakaisou> crap...
[07:59] <hakaisou> how to I reinstall ksysguard?
[07:59] <hakaisou> i had a program crash...
[08:00] <hakaisou> !ksysguard
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <dave> anyone used ntfsresize?
[08:04] <navets> anyone know how to fix sound? i cant edit master volume, it doesnt even show up for me
[08:05] <ubuntu> Hello
[08:09] <Kr4t05> Wow...
[08:09] <Kr4t05> I was able to pick up a DVD +/- RW drive at Walmart for $39
[08:09] <Kr4t05> I'm happy. :)
[08:14] <Blu3> does synaptic crash less than adept?
[08:15] <arunkale> adept crashes?
[08:16] <SlimeyPete> Blu3: yes, in my experience
[08:16] <Blu3> erm.  yes, at once every 3-4 times that i open it
[08:16] <Blu3> at least..
[08:16] <SlimeyPete> I find Adept quite unstable.
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> same here
[08:16] <Blu3> it's also (adept installer) _very_ slow
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> it doesn't crash on me ever.
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> I suggest using the command line, much easier to work with
[08:17] <slougi> adept is very crash prone if you have a long package list and make changes to it
[08:19] <cox377> i need some help
[08:19] <Blu3> does kde-guidance-power use apm or acpi?
[08:19] <cox377> has anyone got a sec?
[08:19] <slougi> cox377: just ask
[08:19] <cox377> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Flash_Bios#Creating_the_disk_.28CD-method.29
[08:20] <cox377> i'm trying to follow this tutorial for making it on cd, but when it gets to the bit to copy your bios files over to the /mnt/temp/ i get access denied
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> cox377: acpi iirc
[08:21] <cox377> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean mate?
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> if i recall correctly.
[08:21] <cox377> Admiral_Chicago: sorry mate buit you will have to talk real slow to me
[08:21] <cox377> haha
[08:22] <slougi> cox377: he was probably replying to Blu3
[08:22] <slougi> and mixed up the nicks
[08:22] <cox377> slougi: ok cool
[08:22] <cox377> slougi: have you managed to look @ that tutorial?
[08:22] <Blu3> admiral, hmm, thanks.  now i gotta figure out why it disappeared from the taskbar and put it back
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> ah so I did.p sorry about that
[08:22] <cox377> Admiral_Chicago: mp
[08:23] <cox377> np
[08:23] <Blu3> =] 
[08:23] <slougi> cox377: i don't have time right now, sorry
[08:23] <cox377> slougi: alright mate, does anyone else
[08:23] <cox377> Please
[08:28] <cox377> anyone??
[08:29] <Blu3> never treid that :-/
[08:29] <Blu3> s/ei/ie
[08:30] <frojnd> Can someone help me on that one? I wanna download htm with wget. I have username on that html page and password. So If I wanna download http://something.movie.htm I have to go into the directory I wanna save this file? and than: wget -6 (don't know where to put username and password) url   ???
[08:32] <Blu3> frojnd, wget -h
[08:32] <Blu3> lots of useful options you should read over :)
[08:33] <frojnd> tell me about it :)
[08:39] <yy> salut j'ai un probleme avec linux on dirai que le clavier bug
[08:39] <rizoma> hi someone can help me with beryl/compiz
[08:39] <rizoma> _
[08:42] <dave> quick question; when i unmount /dev/sda1 with "sudo umount /dev/sda1", sda1 still exists in the /dev/ folder
[08:44] <premier_> dave: I don't think umount is supposed to do that... I think its supposed to unmount all references to /dev/sda1 (ie /media/whatever)
[08:45] <dave> right right - clearly my understanding of "mounting" is just incorrect
[08:45] <dave> ahhh i see
[08:45] <Pollywog> can Konqueror use Flash plugins or do I need to use Firefox for that?
[08:45] <dave> so when you mount something in /dev
[08:45] <dave> it creates a thing in /media for it
[08:45] <premier_> dave: as I understand it, mounting is really just having one part of the file system refer to another
[08:46] <dave> i see
[08:46] <dave> and you can do the same thing to , for examle, use an iso file without burning it
[08:46] <premier_> as it happens, its very useful for hard drives, but thats not its only use.
[08:46] <dave> something like
[08:46] <dave> mount /directory/iso /mnt/something
[08:46] <dave> is that right?
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Hey hey
[08:46] <premier_> I have an encrypted folder that I mount (via encryption) to an unencrypted folder
[08:47] <premier_> Pollywog: there should be konq plugins. I can veiw youtube, etc just fine
[08:47] <Pollywog> premier_: I think I have those installed
[08:47] <K-Ryan> You need flash player to view youtube I think.
[08:47] <K-Ryan> !flash
[08:47] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:48] <Pollywog> I can view YouTube only with Firefox
[08:48] <premier_> !Gnash
[08:48] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[08:48] <K-Ryan> What's wrong with flash?
[08:48] <Pollywog> thanks I did not know about Gnash
[08:48] <K-Ryan> Just out of curiousity.
[08:48] <premier_> flash is good, but it doesn't sit well with those with a strict open source philosophy
[08:49] <dave> you also have to say "loop" somewhere in there
[08:49] <Pollywog> just give me something that works :)
[08:49] <premier_> Pollywog: gnash probably won't be enough
[08:49] <K-Ryan> I wouldn't say it doesn't work as good, it just isn't up for modifying.
[08:49] <dave> but i dont get that either :)
[08:49] <K-Ryan> No matter, that's all I wanted to know.
[08:49] <premier_> what about loop?
[08:49] <Pollywog> premier_: yeah I doubt that it would
[08:49] <dave> to "mount" an iso file
[08:49] <Blu3> the last i tried gnash it was 99% crashy :(  i eagerly wait for it to be not so crashy
[08:50] <K-Ryan> Oh you said it doesn't sit well, then that makes perfect sense. *zip*
[08:50] <premier_> better than the adobe plugin for viewing pdf files... you might as well use an external view
[08:50] <Pollywog> I am not afraid to say that I prefer Adobe Reader to kpdf - this is not #debian
[08:51] <premier_> I'm not a fan myself
[08:51] <premier_> kpdf does everything I need it to without the annoyance
[08:51] <premier_> plus, theres an external view... whats it called?
[08:51] <Pollywog> I used it (kpdf) today and it does a good job now
[08:51] <K-Ryan> What's default on Kubuntu? I don't use pdf files often so...
[08:52] <premier_> kpdf
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Then that's what I use =)
[08:52] <premier_> if you are using konqueror.   If you are using firefox, you're using adobe or nothing
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Konqueror
[08:52] <premier_> god damn gnome optimized program
[08:52] <K-Ryan> It does what I need it to and I like it.
[08:53] <K-Ryan> So I never felt the need to grab Firefox
[08:53] <premier_> yeah, most "k" applications do everything i need them to.  I don't really need any non-kde software
[08:53] <K-Ryan> I love how everything has a K in front of it.
[08:54] <Pollywog> sometimes the k is not in front, like in Akregator
[08:54] <K-Ryan> *almost everything =P
[08:54] <premier_> I'm amazed there aren't more KKK refrences, even though its a german product
[08:54] <Pollywog> what is kkk?
[08:55] <Pollywog> besides the political one
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Yeah....
[08:55] <premier_> here a fun game... name as many kde programs without k's in them as you can!
[08:55] <K-Ryan> open office
[08:55] <premier_> Pollywog: the ku klux klan
[08:55] <premier_> K-Ryan: not kde
[08:55] <Blu3> it is rare that i need to use acroread instead of kpdf
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Oh, right
[08:55] <Pollywog> yes I know that one and I don't think it is a "German product"
[08:56] <premier_> kde is german, isn't it?
[08:56] <Pollywog> oh
[08:56] <Pollywog> yes
[08:56] <K-Ryan> Synaptic Package Manager?
[08:56] <premier_> is that kde?
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I dunno
[08:56] <dave> i'm trying to use ntfsresize
[08:56] <dave> and its telling me
[08:56] <dave> error: extended record needed, not yet supported!
[08:56] <premier_> kde has kpackage
[08:56] <dave> (1032>1024)
[08:56] <K-Ryan> Always?
[08:56] <hakster> hi
[08:56] <dave> i dont see anything about that error online - any thoughts?
[08:56] <K-Ryan> Hi hakster
[08:57] <premier_> dave: shouldn't you use gparted?
[08:57] <K-Ryan> dave, forgive me if I'm wrong, which I just might be.
[08:57] <K-Ryan> But there's something about 1024 cylinders with hard drives.
[08:57] <hakster> I have a fujitsu lifebook 5020d with a 10.4" widescreen....  normal resolution is 1280x768... having issues with kubuntu 7.04 and getting the res right
[08:57] <K-Ryan> That's probably the root of your problem, I couldn't tell you much more though. Sorry
[08:58] <hakster> help
[08:58] <K-Ryan> hakster, what's the problem?
[08:58] <premier_> hakster: is this you're first time in ubuntu?  linux?
[08:58] <K-Ryan> Part of the screen cut off, screen messing up, etc.
[08:58] <hakster> it won't let me choose a resolution in that range from any of the generic monitors there.
[08:58] <premier_> I had a simliar problem, I had to edit /etc/xorg.conf
[08:58] <jeffto> Hi
[08:59] <hakster> I used suse for a while  a few years ago...
[08:59] <premier_> yeah, for some reason if ubuntu doesn't recognize your monitor it will not let you go above 1024xwhatever... real annoying
[08:59] <jeffto> I'm having some troubles with my new kubuntu feisty running on a toshiba laptop
[08:59] <tuco> I need to install ATI drivers for my X1400 please?
[08:59] <K-Ryan> You could set it up manually in the xorg.conf though right?
[09:00] <hakster> so I am not a newbie, per say.... but I am no expert.  I am a programmer, so I have a bit more knowledge than some new people...
[09:00] <K-Ryan> !ati | tuco
[09:00] <ubotu> tuco: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:00] <hakster> never had to edit xorg.conf before...
[09:00] <tuco> Yes premier
[09:01] <jeffto> I have installed all codecs and when I try to listen sometihing no matter the aplication, it's sounds but very lower, I try to setup pcm volume with kmix, alsamixer but nothing happends, can somebody give me som help?
[09:01] <tuco> Premier sorry can't type in pm...I need to register apparently mate.
[09:01] <premier_> oh weird
[09:02] <premier_> tuco: okay, well just follow the link that k-ryan gave you and follow the instructions
[09:02] <K-Ryan> If you need help with a step, ask around
[09:02] <K-Ryan> I did it once before with an Ati so I can give some guidance
[09:02] <premier_> tuco: also, be advised that fglrx drivers have so many issues.  I've been trying for months to get beryl working
[09:03] <tuco> Premier: There are only two lines for the install is that right?
[09:03] <Pollywog> I don't want to install some of the codecs because I live in the US and I don't want to go to jail :)
[09:03] <K-Ryan> Pollywog codecs aren't illegal.
[09:03] <hakster> I am using suse 10.3, but there are too many things to mess with, and kubuntu is newer, so I would like to try it for a while... I will be back in about 30 min once I install kunbuntu
[09:03] <K-Ryan> If you illegally download music and blah blah blah, then it's illegal.
[09:04] <Pollywog> oh I never do that
[09:04] <K-Ryan> The listening to the music, not the codecs.
[09:04] <hakster> back soon, thanks....
[09:04] <premier_> hey, how do I make my default web browser konqueror?
[09:04] <Pollywog> doesn't update-alternatives do that?
[09:04] <tuco> "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager it's for Gnome not KDE?
[09:04] <Pollywog> or galternatives if you want a gui
[09:06] <Pollywog> update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[09:06] <tuco> what is the command to do to reset xorg?
[09:06] <tuco> withour rebooting the machine
[09:06] <Pollywog> tuco I usually restart kdm/gdm
[09:06] <maki> ctrl+alt+delete
[09:06] <Pollywog> would that suffice?
[09:07] <maki> no delete
[09:07] <Pollywog> what maki said works too
[09:07] <maki> backspase
[09:07] <K-Ryan> Ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[09:07] <Pollywog> yes backspace
[09:07] <tuco> I basically just installed ATI drivers, choose them in the system settings...so need to reboot now yes?
[09:07] <K-Ryan> Yep
[09:07] <K-Ryan> No
[09:07] <K-Ryan> Restart X, not reboot
[09:07] <Pollywog> tuco: no just restart kdm or gdm
[09:08] <Pollywog> I usually stop kdm them rmmod nvidia (I use that) then modprobe nvidia and then restart gdm
[09:09] <Pollywog> kdm or gdm as applies in your system
[09:09] <dave> haha gparted would be great
[09:09] <dave> but it isn't working
[09:12] <dfeser> hi all!
[09:12] <K-Ryan> Hey there
[09:12] <dfeser> has someone a working install with fglrx and Xgl and beryl?
[09:12] <dfeser> in forums I read that this should be possible
[09:12] <K-Ryan> I've got my Nvidia Geforce6600 setup and use Beryl successfully
[09:13] <K-Ryan> So it's possible
[09:13] <dave> it says "the following operation could not be applied to disk  -- resize /dev/sda1 from 75gb to 43gb"
[09:13] <dfeser> but i always get some missing GLX_EXT*  errors
[09:13] <dave> i've already defraged
[09:13] <dave> and already chkdsk /f
[09:13] <dfeser> nvidia is completely different from fglrx(ati)
[09:13] <Pollywog> I had Beryl working in Edgy but I am not sure I can get it to work in Feisty, I need to find out
[09:13] <dfeser> with fglrx
[09:13] <dfeser> ?
[09:13] <Pollywog> I got nvidia working, finally
[09:14] <dfeser> or radeon?
[09:14] <K-Ryan> dfeser I'm just saying
[09:14] <dfeser> kk :-)
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Anyway, I had a Radeon 9800 before this and it worked.
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Nvidia is so much easier to setup =)
[09:14] <Pollywog> oh yeah
[09:14] <Pollywog> :)
[09:14] <dfeser> i whished I could change the graphics card...but I have a notebook here
[09:15] <K-Ryan> Ah
[09:16] <K-Ryan> dfeser do you get that error with anything else that needs fglrx?
[09:16] <dfeser> no
[09:16] <dfeser> its all working well
[09:16] <K-Ryan> But only Beryl?
[09:16] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:16] <K-Ryan> Have you tried a reinstall?
[09:17] <dfeser> I'm sure there is some hint using ld_preload...
[09:17] <K-Ryan> Lost me
[09:20] <atidem> ciao
[09:20] <K-Ryan> What's up?
[09:22] <Chris_Swift> I got banned from #Ubuntu :(
[09:22] <LjL> !ban
[09:22] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:22] <K-Ryan> Then it happened for a reason.
[09:22] <K-Ryan> I've been around here for a good two months if not more and I'm frequently on here.
[09:22] <K-Ryan> I've seen one guy get banned, and it was for spamming.
[09:23] <kilrae> but spam is delicious
[09:23] <Chris_Swift> I don't like it
[09:23] <Chris_Swift> SPAM that is
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Follow the link ubotu pulled up, check what is expected and tolerated.
[09:24] <K-Ryan> And please do not act otherwise, because then you will be banned from this channel as well. *most likely*
[09:24] <Chris_Swift> lol, followed all of them
[09:24] <Chris_Swift> the rules that is
[09:24] <K-Ryan> What were you banned for?
[09:24] <Chris_Swift> Talking about sex
[09:24] <LjL> an appropriate channel to discuss this kind of issues is #ubuntu-ops. in here, this is quite offtopic.
[09:24] <K-Ryan> That's an offtopic topic.
[09:24] <K-Ryan> That's why they banned you...
[09:25] <Chris_Swift> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ There's no Off-Topic rule on there
[09:25] <K-Ryan> Not to mention these are channels that are availible to those who that would be considered inappropriate to.
[09:25] <K-Ryan> It's an unspoken rule, that's enforced.
[09:25] <Chris_Swift> ok then...
[09:25] <LjL> Chris_Swift, you were given a link to the guidelines, don't pretend you didn't see it
[09:25] <K-Ryan> Ubuntu chat in the #Ubuntu channe;
[09:25] <K-Ryan> *channel
[09:25] <K-Ryan> If you weren't talking about Ubuntu, you should of been in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[09:26] <LjL> anyway, now you know that talking about bans is offtopic in here, so please bring this to -ops or drop it.
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Now let's leave it at that.
[09:26] <HarleyQuine> hi there everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me with a bluetooth problem
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Sorry LjL =P
[09:26] <K-Ryan> HarleyQuine: shoot and I'm sure someone if not multiple people will try.
[09:27] <HarleyQuine> alrighty, well the thing is that my bluetooth usb only worked on windows with bluesoleil software and I'm wondering whether I can get it working on ubuntu
[09:27] <HarleyQuine> or whether I should buy another adapter
[09:27] <sayers> .JNLP's do not work that well with Konquerer
[09:27] <Chris_Swift> Have you checked the manufacturers website?
[09:27] <K-Ryan> There are bluetooth programs on Linux specifically Kubuntu
[09:28] <HarleyQuine> yep can't see any bluesoleil for linux but I thought someone may have developed an alternative but haven't found one so far
[09:28] <K-Ryan> You may not need that specific program.
[09:28] <K-Ryan> Have you tried any of the bluetooth programs availble?
[09:29] <HarleyQuine> yep I installed a file sharing bluetooth proggie but it didn't do anything for me
[09:29] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:29] <K-Ryan> !bluetooth
[09:29] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:29] <K-Ryan> Been there?
[09:30] <HarleyQuine> nope I haven't, I'm brand spanking new to ubuntu just yesterday actually
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Ah, welcome to the other side.
[09:31] <kilrae> which side?
[09:31] <K-Ryan> Then check that link out, I don't have bluetooth stuff so I don't know how good that is but most of the help files are.
[09:31] <HarleyQuine> thankye am having fun :) got my wireless card working last night
[09:31] <K-Ryan> The Linux side
[09:31] <K-Ryan> Mac, Windows, etc.
[09:31] <kilrae> ah, that side
[09:31] <kilrae> like a house of mirrors over here
[09:31] <HarleyQuine> will check out that link ubotu thanks, the link opened my html editor :) many probs to sort out
[09:31] <K-Ryan> copy and paste it into your browser =P
[09:32] <HarleyQuine> I did that already :P
[09:32] <K-Ryan> Alright then, good luck with this.
[09:32] <K-Ryan> *inexperienced with bluetooth*
[09:33] <HarleyQuine> thanks, think I need all the help I can get
[09:33] <K-Ryan> Well there's plenty in here, just might take a little bit at times.
[09:34] <Chris_Swift> !french
[09:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
 la 7.10 est stable ? - So is there a 7.10 version? 0.o
[09:37] <K-Ryan> Herdy
[09:38] <Chris_Swift> Herdy?
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Umm
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Don't ask why I thought that
[09:38] <K-Ryan> It's...
[09:38] <Chris_Swift> So what about 7.10?
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Gutsy something
[09:38] <LjL> !gutsy
[09:38] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[09:38] <K-Ryan> gutsy gibbon
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Why did I think Herdy, where did I hear that?
[09:39] <Fahuadai> where can i find the distro upgrade tool for 6.10 to 7.04. the adept updater shows me the change log after updating my packages, i click "finish" to aparently start the upgrade, but nothing happens
[09:39] <Chris_Swift> I only just downloaded Fiesty! Got it recently though
[09:39] <LjL> K-Ryan: feisty alpha CDs were called herds
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Ah
[09:39] <K-Ryan> That would do it
[09:39] <zorglu_> q. i would like to open a given window (e.g. konsole/xterm) on a particular 'workspace', is there any command line option for that ? something similar to -geometry
[09:39] <lupul> can anyone tell please the packages i have to install in order to be able to install nvidia driver for g force mx 440?
[09:40] <K-Ryan> !nvidia | lupul
[09:40] <ubotu> lupul: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:40] <lupul> i already tried that
[09:40] <lupul> useless
[09:40] <K-Ryan> You sure?
[09:40] <lupul> yep
[09:40] <lupul> i did 3 times ago
[09:40] <lupul> but now i just can't do it
[09:40] <K-Ryan> What version of Kubuntu are you on?
[09:41] <lupul> feisty
[09:41] <lupul> does it matter that this time i made it on reiser in stead of ext3?
[09:41] <lupul> dont think so
[09:41] <K-Ryan> No experience with reiser so I couldn't honestly say.
[09:42] <lupul> ok
[09:42] <zorglu_> no relation between the fs and the graphic driver
[09:42] <K-Ryan> you got the package nvidia-glx?
[09:42] <lupul> legacy
[09:42] <lupul> but before i installed the driver from nvidia
[09:42] <K-Ryan> Do you need the legacy version?
[09:42] <lupul> the .run package
[09:42] <lupul> yes
[09:43] <K-Ryan> According to the help file
[09:43] <K-Ryan> No, you don't
[09:43] <lupul> glx doesn't work
[09:43] <lupul> only legacy
[09:44] <Chris_Swift> Anyone here knows how to apply a Beryl theme?
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Err, no I lied, read that wrong.
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Chris_Swift #ubuntu-effects
[09:44] <K-Ryan> One sec lupul I'm searching for ya'
[09:44] <lupul> ok
[09:44] <lupul> thanks
[09:45] <K-Ryan> Np
[09:46] <K-Ryan> lupul open up your terminal and throw in lspci | grep -i nvidia
[09:46] <lupul> ok
[09:46] <lupul> then?
[09:46] <K-Ryan> Sorry, what did it say?
[09:46] <lupul> look above
[09:47] <K-Ryan> Hmm?
[09:49] <lupul> i have to restart
[09:50] <HarleyQuine> I love ubuntu.. the bluetooth was all working fine.. I just didn't know how to use it :D
[09:50] <K-Ryan> So it works?
[09:50] <minty> hey
[09:50] <K-Ryan> Hi there minty
[09:50] <HarleyQuine> yup, I followed the terminal instructions on that webpage and saw that it already found my phone so it was working
[09:51] <minty> can sum1 tell me how to mount my windows directory
[09:51] <K-Ryan> Ah, there you go. If you need anything else feel free to ask.
[09:51] <K-Ryan> minty by default it should automatically be mounted.
[09:51] <HarleyQuine> thanks :) no doubt I'll have a zillion more questions later on
[09:51] <K-Ryan> HarleyQuine we all did, I know I sure did. I still do sometimes...
[09:51] <HarleyQuine> oh wait that's another one I have to ask, my windows partition can't be mounted
[09:51] <minty> it isnt thought
[09:52] <minty> though*
[09:52] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:52] <K-Ryan> Not showing up in /media, hmm.
[09:52] <minty> my m8 mounted my last 1
[09:52] <minty> but need 2 mount this 1
[09:52] <K-Ryan> There's a command for it, but I'm not sure of it. Let's try this...
[09:52] <K-Ryan> !mount
[09:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:52] <K-Ryan> !mounting
[09:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:53] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:53] <K-Ryan> !diskmounter
[09:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:53] <K-Ryan> Ah, there we go
[09:53] <HarleyQuine> inaccessable
[09:54] <K-Ryan> Works for me
[09:54] <K-Ryan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:54] <jwideman> Trying to turn on the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work.
[09:54] <HarleyQuine> could it be that there's no free space left in that other partition?
[09:54] <jwideman> Trying to configure, I should say
[09:54] <K-Ryan> It would still show it Harley.
[09:54] <HarleyQuine> oh sorry.. yes it shows it, but when I click enable it says 'inaccessable'
[09:55] <K-Ryan> OH!
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Is it NTFS?
[09:55] <HarleyQuine> emmmm lol no virtual fat is says here
[09:55] <K-Ryan> NTFS partitions aren't compatible with linux.
[09:55] <HarleyQuine> it's windows xp
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Virtual FAT?
[09:55] <HarleyQuine> yup it says windows vfat
[09:55] <K-Ryan> I'm pretty sure FAT and FAT32 file systems are compatible.
[09:56] <K-Ryan> I've never heard of a virtual one though.
[09:56] <K-Ryan> !vfat
[09:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:56] <K-Ryan> Hmm, I'll take a look.
[09:56] <jwideman> xp uses vfat - it's basicalrly fat32 i think
[09:56] <HarleyQuine> aye, cos I didn't change the file system to ntfs
[09:56] <K-Ryan> Yeah it says its Fat32 but the Linux type is vfat
[09:57] <K-Ryan> So, can you look around in it at all?
[09:57] <K-Ryan> View the files, etc.
[09:57] <HarleyQuine> nope nothing, it won't mount at all
[09:57] <lupul> back
[09:57] <lupul> anything for me?
[09:57] <HarleyQuine> not that I really need to get in there.. but itd be nice to transfer my old files
[09:57] <K-Ryan> Then where were you trying to open it HarleyQuine?
[09:57] <K-Ryan> Sorry lupul not really.
[09:58] <lupul> ok
[09:58] <lupul> thanks anyway
[09:58] <K-Ryan> All I can recommend is asking around here and maybe run through the help file again.
[09:58] <jwideman> Trying to configure  the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work. What's going on?
[09:58] <HarleyQuine> places > computer, and the status in discs manager says inaccessable
[09:58] <HarleyQuine> I also tried mounting it from the terminal
[09:58] <K-Ryan> But to no avail?
[09:58] <HarleyQuine> nope
[09:58] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:58] <jwideman> You using dual boot, Harley?
[09:59] <HarleyQuine> it does say in disks manager 'no free space left' so I thought maybe that might do something, yes dual boot
[09:59] <K-Ryan> I use one, so it's not that.
[09:59] <jwideman> can you boot into windows?
[09:59] <HarleyQuine> yup, if I must ;)
[09:59] <K-Ryan> You already caught on =)
[10:00] <jwideman> is it a large drive in an older computer?
[10:01] <HarleyQuine> nope 60gig in a new laptop
[10:01] <K-Ryan> I'll be back in a few minutes. Good luck with this Harley.
[10:02] <HarleyQuine> thanks :)
[10:02] <jwideman> what laptop is it?
[10:02] <HarleyQuine> I dunno if this makes any difference but in disks manager the access point for that partition is none but when I go to see it only has the linux filesystem
[10:02] <HarleyQuine> acer aspire
[10:05] <jwideman> i was thinking it might be the laptop doing something weird with the drive, but that seems unlikely
[10:05] <tuco> premier?
[10:05] <HarleyQuine> yah, I did clear out all the weird acer partitions and did a fresh install when I first got the thing
[10:05] <jwideman> Trying to configure  the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work. What's going on?
[10:05] <HarleyQuine> I like all my space to be somewhere I can see them
[10:06] <tuco> or else really. I need to install ati drivers and configure them for my laptop please>
[10:06] <jwideman> the acer partitions are for system restore afaik
[10:06] <tuco> ati x1400-resolution 1280x800
[10:06] <HarleyQuine> yah but I do my own backups anyway so I don't bother with all that new-fangled nonsense :D
[10:07] <Fahuadai> i have an acer. i deleted my system restore partition when i installed ubuntu. not had any problems
[10:07] <alphonse> salut
[10:07] <jwideman> i've never used system restore  - nothing like restoring a virus to ruin your day
[10:07] <alphonse> bonjour
[10:07] <alphonse> y a des francais?
[10:07] <HarleyQuine> I've never managed to even catch a computer virus
[10:07] <tuco> If you need help Alphnonse it's gonna be in English I am afraid
[10:07] <HarleyQuine> I wonder whether that's cos I'm so boring, or whether my virus proggie is so rubbish
[10:08] <kivi> guys i have a problem!...
[10:08] <kivi> i have ubuntu feisty, and i want to install new themes...
[10:08] <bunchy> bonjour
[10:08] <kivi> but when i donwload them
[10:08] <kivi> it says unknow format
[10:08] <kivi> they have *theme extension...
[10:08] <kivi> how do a fix this?
[10:08] <jwideman> Where did you get them, Kiwi?
[10:08] <bunchy> ok
[10:09] <tuco> In the meantime I need help for my ATi drivers folks.
[10:09] <kivi> on gnome look
[10:09] <kivi> :)
[10:09] <kivi> i have downloaded the MAC OS X theme
[10:09] <bunchy> lol
[10:09] <kivi> so... this is strange
[10:09] <bunchy> pas de francais?
[10:09] <kivi> anyone can help?
[10:09] <Fahuadai> did someone say mac? :O :P
[10:10] <kivi> :)))
[10:10] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Essais #ubuntu-fr
[10:10] <kivi> well... its just a theme i want to install
[10:10] <Fahuadai> hehe. each to his own bud.
[10:10] <bunchy> non
[10:10] <bunchy> moi j ai kubuntu
[10:10] <bunchy> pas ,ubuntu
[10:10] <TheDebugger> bunchy: On s'en fou..
[10:10] <TheDebugger> bunchy: C'est quoi le prob alors?
[10:10] <bunchy> mais
[10:10] <bunchy> ta meer toi
[10:10] <bunchy> encule
[10:10] <jwideman> Trying to configure  the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work. What's going on?
[10:11] <bunchy> pj tu gaze?
[10:11] <tuco> No swearing here please bunchy!
[10:11] <bunchy> koi toi pedal
[10:11] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Va voir ta maman, elle t'appelle mon petit bebe
[10:11] <etrange> chut bunchy
[10:11] <lupul> !nvidia
[10:11] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Tu veux un ti-bec?
[10:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:11] <bunchy> parle bien
[10:11] <tuco> Ati drivers anyone please?
[10:11] <bunchy> aprs je parlerai bien
[10:12] <etrange> bunchy tu veut un ptit cours d'informatik ?
[10:12] <bunchy> non
[10:12] <Fahuadai> kivi: where'd you download the theme from? kde-look ?
[10:12] <bunchy> j suis la juste pour
[10:12] <bunchy> comme sa
[10:12] <TheDebugger> etrange: C'est plus un cours de savoir-vivre qu'il aurait besoin
[10:12] <kivi> from here
[10:12] <kivi> http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:12] <kivi> f
[10:12] <bunchy> ta besoin d aide toi?
[10:12] <kivi> :)
[10:12] <bunchy> j suis la si tu veu
[10:13] <bunchy> ah
[10:13] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Si tu te sens riche, tu pourrais me donner de l'argent
[10:13] <bunchy> tu arrive pas a lire les dvd c sa?
[10:13] <Fahuadai> .rc file extension?
[10:13] <bunchy> vous avez 1 probleme?
[10:13] <kivi> no
[10:13] <jwideman> wouldn't it be more useful to ask in #ubuntu?
[10:13] <bunchy> j suis nouveau ici
[10:13] <kivi> .theme file extension
[10:13] <kivi> :)
[10:13] <bunchy> acueulle moi avec du respect
[10:14] <tuco> alors mets la en veilleuse et apprend sac a merde tu nous saoules!
[10:14] <TheDebugger> bunchy: C'est ce qu'on a fait, on t'a demander le probleme que tu as.. et tu nous a presque envoyer promener
[10:14] <bunchy> ba desole alor
[10:14] <bunchy> j ai mal compri
[10:15] <etrange> bunchy tu insulte pas les gens et tu apprend le francais
[10:15] <bunchy> j ai di desole
[10:15] <tuco> c'est clair
[10:15] <bunchy> ^^
[10:15] <etrange> je m'en fout moi jte dis juste ce qui cloche
[10:15] <bunchy> lol
[10:15] <bunchy> ok
[10:15] <andre_moraes> problems to make java work on Kubuntu 6.01
[10:15] <tuco> etrange/debugger?
[10:15] <andre_moraes> someone could help
[10:15] <etrange> tuco ?
[10:16] <bunchy> y a pas mal d etrange ici
[10:16] <bunchy> sa parle de toute les langue
[10:16] <tuco> j'ai besoin d'aide pour installer mes pilotes ATI et les configurer!
[10:16] <bunchy> c marent
[10:16] <TheDebugger> bunchy: En principe, c'est un salon anglais :P
[10:16] <bunchy> ah
[10:16] <bunchy> ok
[10:16] <TheDebugger> #kubuntu-fr serait le salon francais
[10:17] <etrange> bunchy je te donne le sallon francais si tu est sage
[10:17] <etrange> arg
[10:17] <bunchy> pk vous y eteb pas?
[10:17] <tuco> parce qe'on est bien la tu vois!
[10:17] <bunchy> pk vous ete la si il y a 1 francais?
[10:17] <bunchy> moi aussi
[10:17] <tuco> je crois qu'on a notre champion du monde la!
[10:17] <bunchy> lol
[10:18] <bunchy> j reste ici
[10:18] <bunchy> c tout
[10:18] <TheDebugger> bunchy: parce qu'il n'y a pas beaucoup de monde.. et comme je comprends l'anglais aussi
[10:18] <tuco> etrange/bebugger? Ati rien :-)?
[10:18] <bunchy> ah ok
[10:18] <bunchy> c koi le site?
[10:18] <bunchy> j vais allez voir
[10:18] <etrange> tuco wich distrib ?
[10:18] <tuco> Kubuntu KDE
[10:19] <etrange> wich one the last fiesty ?
[10:19] <tuco> Yes
[10:19] <bunchy> merci
[10:19] <etrange> like that
[10:19] <bunchy> bon a +
[10:19] <tuco> la porte en sortant stp!
[10:19] <LjL> !fr
[10:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:19] <etrange> I do not remember but it was realy easy
[10:19] <etrange> !ati
[10:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <tuco> I did it just one hour ago and it was ago until I decided to choose fglrx!
[10:20] <etrange> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/ati
[10:21] <etrange> Sous Kubuntu "Menu K" > "Rglage du systme" > "Monitor & display" > [Onglet Matriel]  > [bouton "Configurer"] 
[10:22] <tuco> Ok let me install the drivers first
[10:22] <kadaffe> a
[10:22] <kadaffe> hello
[10:22] <tuco> what is the nest step once I installed the drivers?
[10:22] <tuco> next sorry
[10:24] <tuco> ok drivers installed.
[10:25] <tuco> What do I need to do now?
[10:25] <cucaracha> hola a todos... Alguien sabe como capturar con una placa ENLTV?
[10:28] <ubuntu> hi
[10:28] <tuco> please guys...:-(
[10:33] <Kr4t05> K3b is giving me some hairy issues with my new DVD-RW drive.
[10:34] <vecina> cn anyone offer me any explanation whatsoever as to why i have to aptitude reinstall dbus, hal and pal every time i log in in order to automount drives and play 3d graphics without a crash?
[10:36] <gonzalo> hola como tamos
[10:46] <Kr4t05> I have a brand new Lite-On DVD+/-RW drive that I just added to my computer... I'm trying to burn a new DVD backup of my music collection, and I can't get it to detect the DVD in the drive. When I go the the Settings dialog, the device shows up, but it doesn't want to see the DVD.
[10:46] <Kr4t05> Any help?
[10:46] <Kr4t05> I'm using K3b, of course.
[10:47] <Kr4t05> DMA enabled, etc.
[10:47] <strabes> a shot in the dark, but have you run k3b as root?
[10:47] <Lectus> Hello
[10:47] <Kr4t05> strabes: No, but it could be worth a shot.
[10:47] <Lectus> I just installed kubuntu. I'm trying to play mp3 files with Amarok (default player), but it isn't playing the files.
[10:48] <Kr4t05> !mp3 > Lectus
[10:48] <strabes> you generally have to run CD burning applications as root if you want to actually burn a CD
[10:48] <Kr4t05> strabes: I gave me a popup saying that using root is a no-no.
[10:48] <strabes> Lectus: http://strabes.wordpress.com/2007/04/01/get-mp3-support-for-amarok-in-kubuntu-linux/
[10:48] <Kr4t05> It*
[10:48] <strabes> Kr4t05: use "kdesu" instead of "sudo"
[10:49] <Kr4t05> strabes: Did that.
[10:49] <reya276> hello
[10:49] <Daisuke_Ido> strabes: false information
[10:49] <strabes> did it jsut tell you it was a no no or did it actually not let you
[10:49] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: what?
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> you do NOT have to run a cd burning program as root to burn a cd.
[10:50] <reya276> can anyone help get Beryl to stop crashing Ubuntu 7.04
[10:50] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: I have always had to. How do you do it?
[10:50] <tuco> Please guys I really need to get the ATI stuff done please!
[10:50] <Kr4t05> strabes: I was about to say, I've burnt tons of CD-RW with my last burner as root.
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> strabes: i launch it :)
[10:50] <Kr4t05> as !root&
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> it just works
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using k3b from the repos?
[10:50] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: doesn't for me. oh well.
[10:50] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: yeah the one that comes with kubuntu 7.04
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> that's weird
[10:51] <strabes> w/e
[10:51] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Well, do you have any idea why my new burner would be all silly?
[10:51] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Perhaps I need a package like libdvdwrite?
[10:52] <tuco> NO ATI gurus here tonight?
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: just a garden-variety dvd-r/+r?
[10:52] <Kr4t05> Lite-On
[10:52] <Kr4t05> Yeah.
[10:52] <Kr4t05> DVD+/-RW
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: best piece of advice you'll get from anyone talking about ATI.  if you use linux, don't use ATI.
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: was referring to the disc, actually :)
[10:53] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: That too. Maxell 4.7GB DVD-RW
[10:53] <tuco> Well it's a laptop mate so I have to deal with it.
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: ooh >_<
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sorry
[10:53] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Mounts fine.
[10:54] <Kr4t05> tuco: You
[10:54] <pascal> is there any way I can do adhoc wifi in Kubuntu?
[10:54] <Kr4t05> tuco: Looks like you need to right a friendly letter to ATI.
[10:54] <tuco> I just installed the drivers...I need to configure xorg and all
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> do standard dvd-r's work at all?
[10:54] <tuco> Well next time it is nvidia for me...for sure
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> or even cd-r's for that matter
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ati's promising to fix their open source drivers
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> take that back
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ati's promising to fix their DRIVERS.
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> they'll never open them
[10:56] <tuco> Some people helped me in the past, I just need to configure xorg so 1280x800 works properly
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> add those resolutions to the proper screen section?
[10:56] <strabes> tuco: first thing to try is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: It detects CD-RW
[10:57] <tuco> after drivers install?
[10:57] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: fglrx will never be open, but did you say they're going to "fix" them? Meaning add composite support?
[10:57] <strabes> tuco: yes
[10:57] <tuco> ok
[10:57] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: where did you read that? i must know
[10:57] <tuco> done
[10:57] <tuco> what else strabes?
[10:58] <Kr4t05> tuco: Restart X
[10:58] <strabes> tuco: now restart your X server with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:58] <strabes> tuco: or ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:58] <Kr4t05> tuco: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACe
[10:58] <Kr4t05> :)
[10:58] <tuco> hold on I have this:
[10:58] <strabes> or if you're using KDE replace gdm with kdm
[10:58] <strabes> flood coming
[10:58] <strabes> wait for it....
[10:58] <Daisuke_Ido> strabes: it was the speaker for ATI at red hat summit
[10:59] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: snap. i'll have to look that up.
[10:59] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20250/
[10:59] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: This is "good" news... But, I'll believe it when I see results. :P
[10:59] <strabes> ya rly
[10:59] <Kr4t05> I've never really liked ATI, TBH
[10:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: same here, they promise this from time to time
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been an nvidia fan since my beloved TNT2 was current
[11:00] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: They sound like another company we know of. :P
[11:00] <tuco> So what do I need to do then?
[11:00] <Kr4t05> Making promises and saying "Oops, something
[11:00] <Kr4t05> has come up.
[11:00] <Kr4t05> "*
[11:00] <Kr4t05> ><
[11:00] <Kr4t05> Darn enter key.
[11:00] <strabes> Kr4t05: somehow I don't doubt that will happen
[11:00] <Kr4t05> buffer underrun error... ><
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, they promise the moon and then say "oh, crap, we can't deliver winfs!"
[11:01] <strabes> tuco: it's "xserver-xorg" not "xserver-xor"
[11:01] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: This isn't good..."
[11:01] <strabes> tuco: you forgot the "g"
[11:01] <tuco> damn me sorry
[11:01] <strabes> lol
[11:01] <tuco> ahhhhhhhhhh ok
[11:01] <tuco> and now?
[11:01] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[11:02] <tuco> I look for fglrx right?
[11:02] <strabes> tuco: only if you have an ATI card that doesn't support the radeon driver
[11:02] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Would it be at all likely that I would need to re-install for a proper detection of this thing?
[11:02] <tuco> HUh!
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: i wouldn't think so
[11:03] <strabes> tuco: do you have an ati card?
[11:03] <tuco> I have installed the drivers...yes I do!
[11:03] <tuco> x1400
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> buffer underrun...
[11:03] <tuco> mobility
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not pleasant
[11:03] <strabes> tuco: that's the exact same card as I have. Have you installed  fglrx yet? That's ati's proprietary driver. it's the only one that works with our cards.
[11:04] <tuco> All I did so far Strabes is to download and install fglrx from adept
[11:04] <Daisuke_Ido> uh-oh
[11:05] <strabes> tuco: follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?action=show&redirect=BinaryDriverHowto%2Fati
[11:05] <strabes> tuco: then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i just watched the intro to the atlantis season finale.  be back in 38 minutes (i know that's off topic, but...  replicators!)
[11:06] <tuco> I followed it earlier and this is where things messed up!
[11:06] <strabes> tuco: I know. you have to run the dpkg-reconfigure thing
[11:06] <strabes> tuco: it's a bug with feisty
[11:06] <tuco> Nice!
[11:06] <strabes> ubuntu needs to drop this "no proprietary software" thing
[11:07] <LjL> err...
[11:07] <tuco> so fglrx installed...and what?
[11:07] <tuco> and just that: select "ATI accelerated graphics driver"
[11:07] <strabes> tuco: if running the dpkg-reconfigure command doesn't fix your problem, switch to a virtual terminal using ctrl+alt+f2 and run it again. this time select "ati" as your video driver. that way you'll at least be able to get into X, albeit with a bad resolution
[11:08] <tuco> honestly mate I am lost now
[11:08] <tuco> You have the same card...can you just guide me here to configure the thing?
[11:08] <strabes> tuco: did you install fglrx yet
[11:08] <tuco> yes
[11:08] <strabes> open a terminal and run this command
[11:09] <strabes> just copy and paste it in there
[11:09] <strabes> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo depmod -a && sudo aticonfig --initial && sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[11:09] <K`zan> Got a problem with a handicapped friend I just got to use firefox, under mozilla (and about anywhere else) she could hightlight something using the left button and paste it elsewhere using the middle button, that isn't working in firefox.  Any suggestions most appreciated!  TMIA!
[11:09] <dac_> jisao,hi
[11:09] <K`zan> google has been less than helpful trying to figure this out...
[11:10] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20251/
[11:10] <strabes> tuco: excellent. you're using KDE right?
[11:10] <dac_> jisao, how do you #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:11] <K`zan> First and third buttons work, but with her handicap that is very VERY difficult :-(.
[11:11] <tuco> yes sir
[11:12] <strabes> tuco: Now run this command to open your xorg.conf in a text editor: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:12] <aldin> hi how can i take screenshot of movie, al i have is black windows if i screenshot it?
[11:12] <tuco> done
[11:12] <strabes> tuco: now add these lines to the bottom of it and save and close it:
[11:13] <dac_> never mind
[11:13] <strabes> tuco:
[11:13] <strabes> Section "Extensions"
[11:13] <strabes>         Option      "Composite" "0"
[11:13] <strabes> EndSection
[11:13] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: I'm searching the forums for a fix, right now...
[11:13] <Kr4t05> along with google.com/linux
[11:14] <aldin> i tried vlc kaffeine mplayer same... i take screenshot all other is captured but the movie not it is blank/black
[11:14] <tuco> done
[11:15] <premier_> can I have grub boot operating systems (ie windows) from hard drives other than the primary hard drive?
[11:16] <tuco> Strabes?
[11:16] <strabes> tuco: what
[11:16] <tuco> what else mate?
[11:17] <tuco> I saved it ansd closed it
[11:17] <strabes> tuco: ok now run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:17] <strabes> tuco: choose the defaults except for the video driver part. select fglrx for that. and make sure you select the correct resolution also.
[11:18] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20256/
[11:19] <strabes> tuco: restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace. if it breaks, run the dpkg-reconfigure command and then when you're done run 'startx" you might want to write those down
[11:20] <kim> zomg
[11:20] <tuco> hold on..if it breaks what do I do Strabes?
[11:20] <strabes> tuco: i just told you
[11:20] <Kr4t05> What's the typical filesystem type for a DVD? iso**** or something?
[11:20] <tuco> but where mate...
[11:20] <strabes> switch to a virtual terminal with ctrl+alt+f2
[11:20] <tuco> ok
[11:21] <tuco> if I can launch Kubuntu where do I go?
[11:21] <tuco> like before...
[11:21] <drkns> hello
[11:22] <tuco> virtual terminal is that right?
[11:22] <tuco> can't launch sorry
[11:22] <drkns> i need help
[11:22] <Lennings> Hm, i just found this IRC thing in the kmenu... Just started using kubuntu 7.04 festy, and i was woundering if anybody know a good capture program? Im using beryl and ive realy configured it right... And i would like to upload the video on youtube :P
[11:22] <drkns> i set up my wireless card with ndiswrapper
[11:22] <drkns> its a bcm43xx card
[11:23] <drkns> it light up when i modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:23] <Kr4t05> Lennings: xvidcap, perhaps
[11:23] <drkns> and scanns and finds my AP as well but i cannot register to AP
[11:23] <Lennings> thx, recordmydesktop is not working very well for me..
[11:24] <drkns> any help??
[11:24] <Unix_Jihad> ive never found any of the linux screen recorders very good, unfortunately
[11:24] <Lennings> What is this channel for anyway? i dont wanna talk about something... Thats not allowed
[11:24] <Lectus> How can I update my kubuntu 6.06 to the latest?
[11:24] <Tailsfan> Hello, Is there a way to boot the Kubuntu CD Faster?
[11:24] <strabes> Lennings: that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for :)
[11:25] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: I figured it out.
[11:25] <Lennings> phew :P
[11:25] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: My DVD-RW wasn't big enough for my project. :P
[11:25] <Lennings> Well, first i just wanna tell everybody how much i love kubuntu... and beryl :P
[11:26] <drkns> bye all
[11:26] <Tailsfan> Cool Lennings, now if only Kubuntu can load for me
[11:26] <Lennings> I must sound kinda cheezy
[11:26] <Tailsfan> You're Not
[11:26] <Lennings> tailsfan: sup with your kde?
[11:26] <strabes> Lectus: get a feisty sources.list and update and dist-upgrade
[11:26] <Lennings> kubuntu
[11:27] <Tailsfan> No, It's teh disk, I was wondering if I make it load faster
[11:27] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: It works! :) Thanks for the help.
[11:27] <Lennings> ah
[11:27] <Tailsfan> and it's one of teh Shipit Disks, just got it today
[11:28] <Lennings> I love kubuntu but its hard to learn and understand on your own. : / Im only 14 and i dont understand english that well :P
[11:28] <Lennings> Anyone know overkordbaever?
[11:29] <Tailsfan> No I Don't
[11:29] <Lennings> he gave me this kubuntu cd, but he wont help me understand
[11:29] <pitecantropus> you can try to find kubuntu in your language
[11:29] <CalZing> anyone have any recommendations regarding sound cards... I want to have a sound card that works really good with alsa, jack, sdl and mor
[11:29] <Lennings> Swedish? the translation sucks :S
[11:30] <pitecantropus> but it`s a starting point :)
[11:30] <Lennings> Hm
[11:30] <xst> As far as I can see there doesn't seem to be much bug fixing activity by the Ubuntu Audio Team. Most bug have few or no comments from developers. Is all audio bug fixing in Feisty stalled?
[11:31] <pitecantropus> what means overkordbaever?
[11:31] <Lennings> Hehe
[11:32] <dac_> sound doesn't work onthis box
[11:32] <Lennings> Em, thats when a car... drives over a bever!
[11:32] <Lennings> adept cant find any xvidcap : /
[11:32] <Lennings> apt-get?
[11:32] <nixternal> CalZing: soundblaster cards pretty much work with everything and anything you throw at them
[11:32] <CalZing> what sound cards do you have? I would like to know a good sound card to purchase because my current onboard sound is not very well supported, plus I want a MIDI port
[11:33] <Lennings> d2?
[11:33] <CalZing> i have a soundblaster audigy ls now and the input (mic/line) is not available in the mixer
[11:33] <Lennings> Anyone use recordmydesktop?
[11:33] <CalZing> but is there any particular manifacturer that is known to have good linux support?
[11:33] <Lennings> I cant get the sound working
[11:34] <crimsun> CalZing: make sure it's actually available.  Does amixer show capture elements?
[11:36] <Lennings> When i try to capture my desktop with sound... RecordMyDesktop says: Could not open/configure sound card... and when i open the options there is a DEVISE:_______ What goes there?
[11:36] <CalZing> the thing is I will buy a new sound card anyway... There are some good features that are not supported in the CA0106 driver like digital input and more
[11:36] <Lennings> Devise? is that kmix? or my soundcard :S
[11:37] <CalZing> I've used ubuntu for a while and I would like to start making music with muse and rosegarden, so that's why i would appreciate a good hardware advice
[11:37] <Lennings> ..
[11:38] <Lennings> Anyone know how to reinstall kopete? And reset all settings? ive realy fuckt it up :P
[11:39] <Lennings> X
[11:39] <Lennings> :P
[11:39] <TheDebugger> Lennings: Try to delete the "kopete" folder in ~/.kde/share/apps/
[11:39] <TheDebugger> Lennings: It should "reset" the settings
[11:40] <Lennings> Hmm, sounds like what i did to cedega, and cedega is fuckt.
[11:40] <TheDebugger> Lennings: The folders in your home.. you can delete them all if you want.. it won't kill the system
[11:41] <Lennings> Okeu
[11:42] <Lennings> i can only find kopete-history
[11:44] <Lennings> i destroyd the kopete-history file and reinstalled kopete :P
[11:44] <ubuntu> where is everyone today?
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm back
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> one word: whoa.
[11:46] <Lennings> Tenacious D!
[11:47] <InteSnelHest> Bah! how do i erese all the kopete settings?
[11:48] <aro> You want to go back to default?
[11:48] <InteSnelHest> i want all configurations and all my contacts delited
[11:49] <InteSnelHest> Kopete is fuckt, i cant use it nomore :P
[11:49] <compilerwriter> I need a little help with ssh and pgp keys.  I had my machine set up to allow only a pgp key to be used to login over the internet to my machine via pgp and now I can't remember how I did it or where to find the instructions I followed.
[11:49] <ubuntu> delete /home/ubuntu/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[11:49] <InteSnelHest> done
[11:49] <InteSnelHest> and ive reinstalled kopete too
[11:52] <InteSnelHest> How do i find other channels to chat in?
[11:59] <alexis> bonsoir
[12:00] <CalZing> anyone have good soundcard recommendations?
[12:02] <TheDebugger> Alexis: Bonsoir
[12:03] <Alexis> with k3b, i have reading problem when i try to backup a dvd-r to another dvd-r
[12:04] <Alexis> hdparm seem be activated
[12:04] <Alexis> and i dont have probleme to play dvd
[12:05] <Alexis> prob in my fstab?
[12:06] <InteSnelHest> my soundcard is... Hmm, ati abi ATA something :P
[12:06] <InteSnelHest> its good :P