| nopcode | ok it worked | 12:23 |
|---|---|---|
| nopcode | but booting into the 2.2.20 kernel didnt start the X server either | 12:24 |
| hyper_ch | Do you have: Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager? | 12:24 |
| hyper_ch | 2.6.20 | 12:24 |
| hyper_ch | execute startx | 12:24 |
| nopcode | i dont have X | 12:24 |
| nopcode | it doenst start | 12:24 |
| hyper_ch | what error? | 12:24 |
| nopcode | can load module nvidia | 12:24 |
| nopcode | ah | 12:25 |
| nopcode | now it says it cant find the module file | 12:25 |
| nopcode | in /usr/lib/module | 12:25 |
| hyper_ch | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf | 12:25 |
| nopcode | doesnt work | 12:25 |
| nopcode | but i think i need to reinstall the nvidia module | 12:25 |
| hyper_ch | reconfigure your xserver... then you can boot into x and then you can install the restricted drivers | 12:25 |
| hyper_ch | what didn't work? | 12:25 |
| nopcode | that sudo line | 12:26 |
| hyper_ch | what error? | 12:26 |
| nopcode | now i'm reinstalling the nvidia modules | 12:26 |
| nopcode | wait | 12:26 |
| hyper_ch | you see, a comment "didn't work" doesn't help much | 12:26 |
| nopcode | i know but i'm trying to reinstall the nvidia module | 12:26 |
| nopcode | because it didnt exist | 12:26 |
| hyper_ch | why not using vesa | 12:27 |
| nopcode | ok now it talked about nvidia api mismatch | 12:27 |
| nopcode | between x-server and kernel-module | 12:27 |
| nopcode | when doing "startx" | 12:27 |
| hyper_ch | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf | 12:27 |
| nopcode | "xorg-conf is not installed" | 12:28 |
| hyper_ch | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server | 12:28 |
| nopcode | same | 12:28 |
| hyper_ch | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 12:28 |
| hyper_ch | damn, what was it again :) | 12:28 |
| nopcode | and then? | 12:28 |
| nopcode | it worked | 12:28 |
| nopcode | what now | 12:28 |
| nopcode | its asking me what driver to use | 12:28 |
| hyper_ch | go throught the menus | 12:28 |
| hyper_ch | is nvidia there? | 12:28 |
| hyper_ch | or nv? | 12:29 |
| hyper_ch | use nv | 12:29 |
| hyper_ch | or vesa | 12:29 |
| nopcode | WTF is it asking me!! | 12:29 |
| nopcode | i dont want that | 12:29 |
| nopcode | i can change the driver myself | 12:29 |
| hyper_ch | then go ahead | 12:29 |
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| nopcode | ok X is running now | 12:31 |
| nopcode | what now? | 12:31 |
| hyper_ch | Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager? | 12:31 |
| nopcode | ok i enabled it | 12:31 |
| nopcode | now? | 12:31 |
| hyper_ch | reboot | 12:31 |
| hyper_ch | (or restart xserver) | 12:31 |
| Merchelo | ctrl+alt+backspace | 12:32 |
| Jester45 | its better to restart gdm | 12:32 |
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| nopcode | ok re | 12:35 |
| nopcode | i rebooted | 12:35 |
| nopcode | the x server says the api version doesnt match | 12:35 |
| nopcode | between the X and the kernel module | 12:35 |
| hyper_ch | no clue | 12:35 |
| Jester45 | ooo | 12:35 |
| Jester45 | thats not good, what did you install | 12:36 |
| nopcode | i just followed the instructions :/ | 12:36 |
| hyper_ch | he had gutsy kernel | 12:36 |
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| hyper_ch | and followed some instructions from some wiki | 12:36 |
| nopcode | well it looked like semi-official | 12:36 |
| nopcode | well anyways | 12:36 |
| Atan_fx | hi, Espaol, | 12:36 |
| nopcode | which packages are relevant? | 12:36 |
| hyper_ch | !es | Atan_fx | 12:36 |
| nopcode | i'll try to remove and reinstall them | 12:36 |
| ubotu | Atan_fx: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. | 12:36 |
| nopcode | nvidia-glx for one, what else? | 12:36 |
| Atan_fx | ok thanks | 12:37 |
| kalikiana | !de | kalikiana | 12:38 |
| hyper_ch | kalikiana: #xubuntu-de | 12:38 |
| kalikiana | hyper_ch, I know. I just wanted to try that command because I saw it for the first time. :D | 12:40 |
| kalikiana | So there is no #xubuntu-es? | 12:40 |
| hyper_ch | kalikiana: try to enter that channel and you'll see | 12:40 |
| Jester45 | there is | 12:40 |
| nopcode | re | 12:40 |
| nopcode | so, any ideas? :( | 12:40 |
| kalikiana | Someone should tell ubotu about #xubuntu-es, else it's confusing. | 12:41 |
| Jester45 | or...not | 12:41 |
| hyper_ch | kalikiana: tell seveas | 12:41 |
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| nopcode | so | 12:42 |
| nopcode | if i have nvidia-glx | 12:42 |
| nopcode | and nvidia-kernel-common | 12:43 |
| nopcode | shouldnt those two be compatible? | 12:43 |
| nopcode | i've only got voltaile/nvidia_new.o | 12:47 |
| nopcode | as kernel module | 12:47 |
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| nopcode | hyper_ch: i got it to work with "envy" | 01:08 |
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| friarjac1 | I'm a newbie trying to install Xubuntu, and I need help. | 01:47 |
| cliebow | ? | 01:50 |
| friarjac1 | install appears to be hung up installing "anthy" at 65%. I read in the forums that "anthy" is not necessary. And gave a way to switch to the console, enter the "ps" command, use the process id that ps give & kill it. I did all that, but I do not see a process id. The text is longer than my screen length, so I miss the top part. Is it up there, or do I just not know what I'm looking for and it's right in front of me? | 01:53 |
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| W8TAH | hi folks -- i need a suggestion -- ive been playing with kino and pitivi for video editing -- i can capture easilly with kino, but i need to find a good editor - -specifically, i need to add text and graphics to the video, as well as put in transitions - any suggestions? | 01:56 |
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| |Slurpee| | anyone still here from my odd issue earlier ? | 02:19 |
| |Slurpee| | the alternate cd got me further into the installation | 02:20 |
| |Slurpee| | now I am getting odd errors while installing the base system | 02:21 |
| |Slurpee| | saying it cant find specific files | 02:21 |
| |Slurpee| | i am an idiot | 02:28 |
| |Slurpee| | stupid http request did not download entire file. | 02:28 |
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| Ry-Fi | why are all the new distros made so you *have* to load the live cd first before u can install | 03:09 |
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| crimsun | well, you can use the alternate installer image. It's text-based and just an installer. | 03:14 |
| Ry-Fi | bleh, so i have to reburn another iso | 03:14 |
| Ry-Fi | i think im running out of disks | 03:14 |
| BFTD | I can send you some | 03:14 |
| Ry-Fi | well the system only as 128mb of ram, kubuntu should run on that right? | 03:14 |
| crimsun | Well, if your machine(s) is(are) capable of netboot/PXE, then do that... | 03:14 |
| Ry-Fi | *after* its installed | 03:14 |
| crimsun | Kubuntu will be tight on 128 MB. Even Xubuntu will be. Try Damn Small Linux or something. | 03:15 |
| Ry-Fi | haha this computer doesnt even have an ethernet port | 03:15 |
| Ry-Fi | hrm | 03:15 |
| Ry-Fi | ive never done a network install before | 03:15 |
| Ry-Fi | is it done easily? i can install a PCI nic really quick | 03:15 |
| BFTD | they're intense | 03:15 |
| Ry-Fi | crowe O_o | 03:16 |
| Ry-Fi | hahahah | 03:16 |
| BFTD | what? | 03:16 |
| Ry-Fi | thats random why arnt u in #cnerdc | 03:16 |
| BFTD | I was caught | 03:16 |
| Ry-Fi | oh u still banned> | 03:16 |
| BFTD | they found the "photo shopped" pci | 03:16 |
| BFTD | pic* | 03:17 |
| Ry-Fi | of Ash> | 03:17 |
| Ry-Fi | ?** | 03:17 |
| BFTD | of me | 03:17 |
| Ry-Fi | which picture is this? | 03:17 |
| BFTD | the one you didn't see | 03:18 |
| Ry-Fi | ok so how does a network install go? | 03:21 |
| Ry-Fi | cause i did just delete the iso | 03:21 |
| BFTD | get the alt cd | 03:21 |
| BFTD | use that | 03:21 |
| Ry-Fi | rgr | 03:22 |
| Ry-Fi | downloading | 03:22 |
| Ry-Fi | see | 03:23 |
| Ry-Fi | the ironic part is | 03:23 |
| Ry-Fi | windows installed just fine | 03:23 |
| Ry-Fi | but linux? | 03:23 |
| Ry-Fi | NO | 03:23 |
| Ry-Fi | such a pain in the assssssss | 03:23 |
| BFTD | wow, people don't like you already | 03:26 |
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| Ry-Fi | all im saying is windows made it a lot more convienient | 03:26 |
| BFTD | windows was you child | 03:29 |
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| odat | hi everyone anyone know why gnomebaker would have trouble reading track data when burning | 03:33 |
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| Ry-Fi | odat have u tried installing windows> | 03:35 |
| Ry-Fi | ?* | 03:35 |
| Ry-Fi | jk | 03:35 |
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| nekomancer | hello room! | 03:43 |
| nekomancer | i am currently installing 7.04 on a old p3 computer | 03:44 |
| nekomancer | and was wondering if there was a file system that would be bettersuited, speed wise, for this pc | 03:44 |
| cliebow | sounds like you are cramped for memory and cpu..not much you can do tot improvr | 03:47 |
| nekomancer | yes. 256 mb Ram, (+64 mb video card ram) and 700mhz processor | 03:47 |
| nekomancer | so it's more cramped for cpu than ram i guess | 03:48 |
| nekomancer | it's just a pc for a music player and little sister surfing the net/word processing, so it should be fine. but any tiny improvement would be nice | 03:49 |
| Jester45 | i use use ext3 its simpler and you will not gain that much performance over others for what it might be doing | 03:52 |
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| nekomancer | that tis what i figured would be said. | 03:53 |
| nekomancer | but nothing lost in the asking | 03:53 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, you're in here a lot | 03:53 |
| Jester45 | nekomancer: you might want to make 2 partitions, 1 at / for system files and 1 at /home for user stuff. its a lot safer if the system messes up then your sis will not loose her stuff | 03:53 |
| Jester45 | yea i am | 03:53 |
| Jester45 | nekomancer: the / should be fine at 10g or less. how big is the drive? | 03:54 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, i'm well aware of that, but thanks! one for music files, one for home, one for the rest of the stuff | 03:54 |
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| nekomancer | 19 gigs | 03:54 |
| pimp^air | hi | 03:54 |
| pimp^air | i'm looking for something like ms acces for gnome which is not openoffice | 03:54 |
| Jester45 | nekomancer: i would do under 500mb swap but thats just me | 03:55 |
| pimp^air | but don't know what to google for? | 03:55 |
| nekomancer | 6 music 8 root 7 home | 03:55 |
| pimp^air | is there something like a gnome database-application? | 03:55 |
| pimp^air | oder some gtk-based app | 03:55 |
| pimp^air | :) | 03:55 |
| nekomancer | swap is set at 300 megs | 03:55 |
| Jester45 | pimp^air: try php maybe, or google for linux spreedsheet datavase | 03:55 |
| pimp^air | php:) | 03:56 |
| Jester45 | nekomancer: ok, if you want you can make the / partition a reisner fs, i think its faster but i dont know the stats on it | 03:56 |
| pimp^air | all i need it for is some customer invoice stuff of the most simple kind | 03:56 |
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| nekomancer | Jester45, riser is only faster on a fast cpu | 03:57 |
| Jester45 | pimp^air: search google for a linux database program | 03:57 |
| pimp^air | most things listed there are databases containing linux programm | 03:58 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, and only if you are using small files. it's good for mp3 playback, mail servers, and the like. it's cpu intecive | 03:58 |
| pimp^air | s | 03:58 |
| pimp^air | :) | 03:58 |
| pimp^air | and lots of oracle related stuff | 03:58 |
| Jester45 | nekomancer: ok, i didnt quite know its faster for me, there is somthing like xfs wich is good but i dont know the name | 03:58 |
| nekomancer | pimp^air, why don't you like the open office stuff? | 03:58 |
| pimp^air | because it doesn't work on my fresh xubuntu install | 03:59 |
| Jester45 | nekomancer: yea, the system part "/" is mostly small files if the bigger files are on a 2nd partition | 03:59 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, it's called XFS. i did my googling and decided to check here prior to installing | 03:59 |
| pimp^air | i tried it out, the forms assistant for example doesnt work | 03:59 |
| pimp^air | i tried java5 and java6 | 03:59 |
| pimp^air | no luck | 03:59 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, riser also takes long to mount | 03:59 |
| Jester45 | nekomancer: well you know about as much as me...but you can remember the name | 04:00 |
| nekomancer | pimp^air, how did you install open office? | 04:00 |
| Jester45 | well... i will be right back my fluxbox is done complieing | 04:00 |
| pimp^air | aptitude install openoffice.org | 04:00 |
| pimp^air | y? | 04:01 |
| nekomancer | did you run as root? | 04:01 |
| nekomancer | with sudo | 04:01 |
| nekomancer | and did you update first also? (sudo aptitude update) | 04:01 |
| pimp^air | of course | 04:02 |
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| pimp^air | still the wizard won't open | 04:02 |
| nekomancer | pimp^air, it works on my computer... i'd try reinstalling it... | 04:03 |
| pimp^air | openoffice.org? | 04:03 |
| pimp^air | k, i'll do that | 04:03 |
| nekomancer | sudo aptitdue purge openoffice.org | 04:03 |
| nekomancer | you know the drill :P | 04:03 |
| Jester45 | if you want i would apt-get clean to remove the downloaded debs | 04:03 |
| nekomancer | yes, that could help | 04:03 |
| Jester45 | before reinstalled or your installed in same thing | 04:03 |
| pimp^air | openoffice.org is a meta-package | 04:04 |
| pimp^air | so it removed 0 bytes | 04:04 |
| pimp^air | :) | 04:04 |
| nekomancer | although unlikely, you may have gotten a bad or corrupted download | 04:04 |
| pimp^air | maybe i installed it using apt-get | 04:04 |
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| Jester45 | yea, but meta packages have other packages linked to them so when iyou isntalled that meta package it installed others | 04:04 |
| nekomancer | yes | 04:04 |
| nekomancer | but removing it may not have worked in that fashon | 04:05 |
| pimp^air | yes, it depends on them, but they don't depend on it | 04:05 |
| Jester45 | pimp^air: did you apt-get clean openoffice.org? or just 'apt-get clean' | 04:05 |
| nekomancer | i don't know the pieces to open office, sorry | 04:05 |
| nekomancer | it's just apt-get clean | 04:05 |
| nekomancer | clears the entire cache | 04:05 |
| Jester45 | i wasnt sure if you could add a package name to clean, | 04:05 |
| Jester45 | ok... brb again i tihnk it should work now | 04:06 |
| pimp^air | no, did clean | 04:06 |
| pimp^air | nekomancer: which version of java are you using? | 04:07 |
| nekomancer | good question | 04:07 |
| pimp^air | hjehe | 04:07 |
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| nekomancer | how can i find out? java -v tossed an unreconsied option at me | 04:08 |
| nekomancer | java makes me unhappy... long live python | 04:08 |
| Jester45 | java is fun | 04:08 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, have you even tried python? | 04:09 |
| pimp^air | java -version | 04:09 |
| Jester45 | yea | 04:09 |
| nekomancer | java version "1.6.0" | 04:09 |
| nekomancer | Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105) | 04:09 |
| nekomancer | Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing) | 04:09 |
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| nekomancer | Jester45, and you still find java fun?! i fail to understand... it's slower, harder to read/write, and dosen't run as smoothly | 04:10 |
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| Jester45 | i dont like most python apps | 04:11 |
| pimp^air | python ftw | 04:11 |
| pimp^air | :) | 04:11 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, so you are simply a user. | 04:11 |
| Jester45 | yea | 04:11 |
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| nekomancer | Jester45, the reason for that seems to be advertising... many people think java is some sort of standard or something... | 04:12 |
| pimp^air | ok, doing a reinstall of openoffice | 04:12 |
| pimp^air | after purging everything beginning with openoffive | 04:13 |
| pimp^air | in its name | 04:13 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, but you should know things like the beloved YouTube are writen in python | 04:13 |
| Jester45 | idk what is standard | 04:13 |
| Jester45 | i hate youtube | 04:13 |
| pimp^air | 90MB download | 04:13 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, and python is what was the suggest language for Ubuntu entries into the Summer Of Code | 04:13 |
| pimp^air | yeah.... but if queen mum gets raped you can be sure it'll be posted to youtube in no time | 04:13 |
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| Jester45 | videos are crappy | 04:13 |
| pimp^air | and yes, i know she's dead | 04:14 |
| pimp^air | :) | 04:14 |
| pimp^air | why isnt there python flash? | 04:14 |
| pimp^air | phlash | 04:14 |
| pimp^air | :) | 04:14 |
| === nekomancer agrees with kalikiana, but it's more of a would like more... i can handle some Flash. | ||
| nekomancer | good one pimp^air. | 04:15 |
| === nekomancer ponders if kalikiana has ever taken a look at ruby... | ||
| Jester45 | i like bash over html :) but thats not hard | 04:16 |
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| pimp^air | i wrote couple of htmls using bash and echo | 04:17 |
| pimp^air | .) | 04:17 |
| pimp^air | cgi ftw | 04:17 |
| pimp^air | no look after a reinstall | 04:17 |
| nekomancer | html isn't a language. Well, real language... it simply displays stuff, Jester45 | 04:17 |
| Jester45 | my flux doesnt wanna work | 04:17 |
| Jester45 | i dont care | 04:17 |
| nekomancer | building from source sometimes does that | 04:17 |
| Jester45 | i didnt say anything about a language | 04:17 |
| nekomancer | if you want to do everything from source, then i suggest gentoo... | 04:18 |
| kalikiana | nekomancer, I tried the tutorial on ruby's website. I find it unfamiliar but maybe not bad. I didn't look at it further so far. | 04:18 |
| nekomancer | or sabayon | 04:18 |
| Jester45 | no | 04:18 |
| Jester45 | sabayon is pretty cool | 04:18 |
| Jester45 | only good ting from gentoo, besides the gentoo wiki | 04:18 |
| Jester45 | i wish i could of got my dual heads working | 04:19 |
| Jester45 | then i would have a dedicated irssi screen | 04:19 |
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| nekomancer | kalikiana, i agree that it feels too unfamiliar... esp for something they tote as 'natural''. but many people swear by it, and it has a similar reputation to python so i was wondering | 04:20 |
| Jester45 | i got bored one day with a dremal and carved a keyboard holder in my desk | 04:20 |
| pimp^air | see... openoffice just doesn't work | 04:20 |
| pimp^air | do you have openoffice.org-gcj installed? | 04:20 |
| Jester45 | so the board is level with desk, and well the F buttons made it to big so i removed them also | 04:21 |
| Jester45 | brb last time | 04:21 |
| nekomancer | sorry, pimp^air, i just installed it with aptitude along with quite a few other things. i'm using 6.10 tho, thinking about it. That may be the differance | 04:21 |
| pimp^air | well, might be | 04:21 |
| nekomancer | i doubt they would have allowed oo to become broken tho | 04:22 |
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| nekomancer | that would be sad | 04:22 |
| kalikiana | nekomancer, The 'rails' is pretty popular with some webdesigners indeed. I am happy with python, c and php for everything I need currently, speaking of coding. I suppose future will show if ruby can compete with python. | 04:24 |
| kalikiana | I'm especially not sure yet if ruby is good for non-web projects. | 04:25 |
| pimp^air | wow | 04:25 |
| pimp^air | installing the free crap version of java did the trink | 04:25 |
| pimp^air | trick | 04:25 |
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| kalikiana | pimp^air, What is 'the free crap version'? | 04:25 |
| pimp^air | gij-thingy | 04:26 |
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| pimp^air | however at the last step of the wizard i can only select cancel | 04:27 |
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| kalikiana | Ah, ok. | 04:27 |
| pimp^air | which i read in other bugreports too | 04:27 |
| kalikiana | I tried some free implementations three weeks ago or so, but I wasn't really pleased with it. | 04:27 |
| kalikiana | For example one had no security certificate support at all. | 04:28 |
| kalikiana | Another had a lack of some GUI elements. | 04:28 |
| pimp^air | some things in ubuntu are just b0rken | 04:29 |
| pimp^air | i go to bed, n8 | 04:31 |
| BFTD | !! | 04:33 |
| BFTD | wow... | 04:33 |
| nekomancer | BFTD, what? | 04:35 |
| BFTD | oh I found a naturally Linux compatible Media Player | 04:36 |
| nekomancer | BFTD, which one? | 04:37 |
| BFTD | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855609003 | 04:39 |
| Jester45 | many are compatible | 04:40 |
| Jester45 | a lot of cheap ones are because all they are are usb thumb drives with a processor and firmware | 04:43 |
| Jester45 | all though that one looks nice | 04:43 |
| Jester45 | does it have sd expansion? | 04:44 |
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| BFTD | Jester45 not that I can see | 04:53 |
| Jester45 | does anyone know if you can umm compond if statements? | 04:55 |
| Jester45 | like | 04:55 |
| Jester45 | if [ "foo" = "bar" ] then if [ "foo2" = "bar2" ] then run blah else run blah2 | 04:57 |
| Jester45 | so that if the first if is true then the 2nd will check if its true | 04:57 |
| squirrelpimp | Jester45: in bash? | 04:58 |
| Jester45 | see the problem is im tring to run 1 command at the end of a script but that command needs a few varables | 04:58 |
| Jester45 | yes | 04:58 |
| Jester45 | or... use if inside a command | 04:59 |
| squirrelpimp | if [ "a" == "b"] ; then if [ "c" == "b" ] ; then command; fi; fi | 04:59 |
| squirrelpimp | should work | 04:59 |
| Jester45 | what if i branch that off again to | 04:59 |
| Jester45 | if [ "a" == "b"] ; then if [ "c" == "b" ] ; then command; else if [ "d" = "e"] ; then; fi; fi; fi | 05:00 |
| nekomancer | Jester45, it should be fine. use it all the time in other languages... never writen a complex bash script tho | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | hehe | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | i will paste what i have of the script | 05:02 |
| nekomancer | no | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | not here | 05:02 |
| nekomancer | !pastebin | 05:02 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | paste bin | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | yea i know | 05:02 |
| nekomancer | yep | 05:02 |
| nekomancer | sorry | 05:02 |
| nekomancer | you spend enough time here to know that | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | http://pastebin.ca/480152 | 05:04 |
| Jester45 | yea | 05:04 |
| Jester45 | plus chanserv whould kick me | 05:04 |
| Jester45 | at the first section i just ask questions about what you want the output to be | 05:04 |
| Jester45 | but im not sure how to get the command to be written | 05:05 |
| Jester45 | the part at the bottom is the base of the command with sections of it needing to be changed depending on the variables | 05:05 |
| nekomancer | should add HD-DVD encryption support : P | 05:06 |
| Jester45 | nobody i know has hd dvd | 05:06 |
| Jester45 | its manly for my friends | 05:07 |
| Jester45 | i have my own script for me for my settings | 05:07 |
| Jester45 | i told them to try linux and helped them set it up and things like that | 05:07 |
| Jester45 | now some want to do multimedia things and i told them to use mencoder but they dont understand it | 05:08 |
| Jester45 | so im helping | 05:08 |
| Jester45 | i wanted to use bash because i know lots of people have it | 05:09 |
| Jester45 | it probly should be the other shells also | 05:09 |
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| xjkx | how do you use lazarus on xubuntu? i installed "tct" and i got a lazarus binary, but when i run:"Can't open" wtf :o | 05:14 |
| Jester45 | not sure | 05:18 |
| xjkx | i think thats not lazarus pascal | 05:19 |
| xjkx | " lazarus tries to revive things that have died and gone into the binary spirit world... deleted files, data in memory, swap, etc." | 05:20 |
| xjkx | in man lazarus | 05:20 |
| xjkx | but lazarus ia a pascal graphical thing | 05:20 |
| Jester45 | !lazarus | 05:20 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about lazarus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:20 |
| kalikiana | !info lazarus | 05:23 |
| ubotu | Package lazarus does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas | 05:23 |
| maxbeatt | whats goin on | 05:28 |
| Jester45 | nothin | 05:35 |
| maxbeatt | i'm trying my first install of xubuntu tonight | 05:36 |
| Jester45 | thats great | 05:36 |
| maxbeatt | i'm pretty excited | 05:37 |
| maxbeatt | i've read alot about ubuntu but my system is so old i was recommended xubuntu | 05:37 |
| Jester45 | theres nothing wrong with xubuntu its better for older machines, but i like it better than ubuntu | 05:38 |
| Jester45 | i hope you dont have problems | 05:38 |
| maxbeatt | haha me 2 | 05:38 |
| Jester45 | what did the machine have on it | 05:40 |
| maxbeatt | it's an original Gateway Profile | 05:41 |
| maxbeatt | AMD-K6 400mhz | 05:41 |
| maxbeatt | 64mb RAM | 05:41 |
| maxbeatt | 6gb hd | 05:41 |
| Jester45 | what OS | 05:41 |
| maxbeatt | i think it's close to 10yrs old | 05:41 |
| maxbeatt | it was running win98 but not well | 05:41 |
| Jester45 | i think you will like xubuntu, just a tip you might want to look into more ram and try to use the command line if you can | 05:42 |
| Jester45 | my i use amarok for a music player and it uses 50-100mb of ram but i also use mpd and it uses under 2mb | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | hopefully i didnt care you off | 05:44 |
| Jester45 | :) | 05:44 |
| maxbeatt | na i know it needs more ram | 05:44 |
| maxbeatt | here's a pic of what i'm workin with | 05:44 |
| Jester45 | you will be fine with gui also | 05:44 |
| maxbeatt | http://www.k3.dion.ne.jp/~datnio/LOVELOG_IMG/01_AUT_8833.JPG | 05:44 |
| maxbeatt | all the components are built into the monitor so upgrading hardware is a bitch | 05:45 |
| Jester45 | oo | 05:45 |
| Jester45 | thats kinda nice | 05:45 |
| maxbeatt | it was fucking awesome 10 yrs ago | 05:45 |
| Jester45 | is it crt ? im guessing yes | 05:45 |
| maxbeatt | but now you just gotta see what you can do it | 05:45 |
| maxbeatt | na its lcd | 05:45 |
| maxbeatt | about 4in deep | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | now thats fancy | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | i would wall mount it | 05:46 |
| maxbeatt | haha | 05:46 |
| maxbeatt | i move too much to mount stuff | 05:46 |
| maxbeatt | a nice flat table does me just fine | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | i see all the boxes in the background | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | i wouldnt mind one of those | 05:47 |
| Jester45 | mount it in a car | 05:47 |
| maxbeatt | i saw a diy for building a computer into your car | 05:47 |
| maxbeatt | touch screen, 100gb hd for mp3s, wifi | 05:48 |
| maxbeatt | didn't read it too close because i was afraid i'd want it too bad | 05:48 |
| Jester45 | theres a linuxdistro for that | 05:48 |
| Jester45 | :) | 05:48 |
| maxbeatt | there's a tshirt waiting to print | 05:49 |
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| Jester45 | i like the 1 point printer | 05:49 |
| Jester45 | just mount a ball point pen and go, then wait a few hours for it to finish a page | 05:50 |
| Jester45 | but... my art class would be much easier | 05:50 |
| Jester45 | copy-paste-print | 05:50 |
| Jester45 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/02/car_whisperer/ | 05:52 |
| maxbeatt | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822709009 | 05:52 |
| Jester45 | aaaa a paste war it is | 05:53 |
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| maxbeatt | haha just wait til i find this other bluetooth hack | 05:53 |
| maxbeatt | video! | 05:53 |
| Jester45 | you know they have 1tb internal drives... | 05:53 |
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| maxbeatt | yea but they dont fit in my macbook ;) | 05:54 |
| Jester45 | add on external usb inclosure + usb wifi | 05:54 |
| maxbeatt | with that i can swap out all the hdds i can find | 05:54 |
| maxbeatt | i thought about just getting the enclosure but you get those 250gb hds for like $69 which i thought was a good price | 05:54 |
| maxbeatt | "bluejacking" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dltjEnrePxc&eurl= | 05:55 |
| Jester45 | i would get a external usb inclosure.. remove the case and you can swap the drives | 05:55 |
| maxbeatt | one at a time | 05:56 |
| maxbeatt | i have that | 05:56 |
| maxbeatt | but 4 swaps is better than 1 | 05:56 |
| Jester45 | i did the reverse on my dvd drive | 05:57 |
| Jester45 | riped the pastic off and bam | 05:57 |
| Jester45 | faster drive + its about 2 inches shorter | 05:57 |
| Jester45 | only usb | 05:58 |
| Jester45 | i woudl get a ethernet one | 05:58 |
| maxbeatt | ethernet external drive? | 05:58 |
| Jester45 | yea | 05:58 |
| maxbeatt | nice never heard of those | 05:59 |
| Jester45 | i found one with ether usb and wireless | 05:59 |
| Jester45 | wonder if it could use all 3 at once | 05:59 |
| Jester45 | http://www.nextag.com/ethernet-external-hard-drive/search-html | 06:01 |
| Jester45 | bunches | 06:01 |
| Jester45 | the top one is pretty cheap | 06:01 |
| maxbeatt | yea i noticed | 06:02 |
| Jester45 | http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=444004 | 06:03 |
| Jester45 | hehe its pretty much a computer | 06:03 |
| Jester45 | if its not allready | 06:03 |
| maxbeatt | 11k? its pretty much a car | 06:04 |
| Jester45 | yea its a computer | 06:05 |
| Jester45 | they dont count | 06:05 |
| Jester45 | 50 lbs | 06:05 |
| maxbeatt | lol | 06:06 |
| maxbeatt | hmm i wonder if i can share my macbook's wireless connection thru the ethernet to my gateway's ethernet... | 06:07 |
| Jester45 | xp could.. but the macbook would be able to use the internet | 06:08 |
| Jester45 | its so stupid | 06:08 |
| Jester45 | wouldnt* | 06:08 |
| maxbeatt | wouldn't? | 06:08 |
| maxbeatt | hmm that doesn't seem right | 06:08 |
| Jester45 | i did it at my friends | 06:08 |
| pRrp | recompiling my kernel in xubuntu would free up ram wouldnt it? | 06:08 |
| Jester45 | we had a LAN of a few computer but not all the people had wfi so he sacrificed one of his machines to act like a gateware | 06:09 |
| Jester45 | pRrp: if you compile it with less things than the common kernal | 06:10 |
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| pRrp | yeah.. which is very possible.. i mean xubuntu doesnt compile one during installation does it? doesnt it just use a kernel with basically support for all hardware? | 06:10 |
| Jester45 | pRrp: you might want to try a kernal for your system pre built by ubuntu devs | 06:10 |
| Jester45 | yes, you can apt-get a new kernal thats for your processor | 06:11 |
| Jester45 | if you want to optimize more then you can compile one | 06:11 |
| maxbeatt | apt-get, eh? | 06:11 |
| pRrp | how do i do that? for some reason this is like the easiest distro i've ever installed.. but im not used to it.. | 06:11 |
| Jester45 | or any other package manager | 06:11 |
| pRrp | i compiled kernels in slack and gentoo alot.. no problem | 06:11 |
| Jester45 | maxbeatt: its how you install things apt-get install <packagename> | 06:12 |
| pRrp | for some reason im afraid of it here.. it's debian style but i havent used debian since like the 90's | 06:12 |
| Jester45 | !kernel | 06:12 |
| ubotu | kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel. You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild | 06:12 |
| Jester45 | see 2nd link | 06:13 |
| pRrp | cool. thanks.. i'll check it out.. | 06:13 |
| Jester45 | no problem | 06:13 |
| pRrp | modules are generally loaded into ram huh? | 06:13 |
| Jester45 | i dont know | 06:13 |
| kalikiana | pRrp, How come you're trying xubuntu after slack and gentoo? | 06:18 |
| Jester45 | well night all | 06:18 |
| pRrp | kalikiana: cuase all i have now is a 550Mhz w/128mb ram | 06:18 |
| Jester45 | i have to wake up in 4 hours :( | 06:18 |
| pRrp | and i heard it was quick and easy.. which is true. | 06:18 |
| pRrp | oh it's a laptop too.. with 6gb hd.. | 06:19 |
| kalikiana | pRrp, Yep, if you can live with "unoptimized" binaries it's extremely lazy :P | 06:19 |
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| pRrp | yeah, hell it's better than nothin.. i dont think i could do gentoo on here.. too much compile time and space needed for building shit | 06:20 |
| Jester45 | maybe someone should make a third party repo of optimized packages | 06:20 |
| pRrp | kalikiana: exactly.. gentoo took me like 20 hours to get setup decent on my old 1.8GHz laptop with 512MB ram.. i cant imagine it on this thing.. | 06:21 |
| maxbeatt | 20hrs? | 06:21 |
| Jester45 | night for real this time | 06:21 |
| maxbeatt | gnite | 06:21 |
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| pRrp | maxbeatt: compiling everything | 06:21 |
| maxbeatt | ah | 06:21 |
| pRrp | gnite jester45 | 06:21 |
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| kalikiana | Anyone here using ccache? | 07:15 |
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| deniz_ogu1 | Hi dear friendb. xubuntu 7.04 Feisty. My login screen is not viewed as it should be. Blurred and colours are weird. As if there's a resolution problem. My desktop user to look similar before I set it to 1024x768. Now desktop is ok with 1024x768. Depehring on this, I deleted all values more than it, namely 1280x1024 for each colour depth. But login screen is still the same. What can I do? | 07:37 |
| deniz_ogu1 | *user to be= used to be | 07:38 |
| deniz_ogu1 | *depehring: depending | 07:38 |
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| deniz_ogu1 | !login | 07:54 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about login - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:54 |
| deniz_ogu1 | !login screen | 07:54 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about login screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:54 |
| Myrtti | !gdm | 07:59 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:59 |
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| kalikiana | !info gdm | Myrtti | 08:23 |
| ubotu | myrtti: gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1771 kB, installed size 13480 kB | 08:23 |
| Myrtti | kalikiana: thanks. I was trying to give the info to deniz_ogul | 08:23 |
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| kalikiana | :) | 08:23 |
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| billy_ | hi. what's the name of the xubuntu window manager? | 01:07 |
| Gerro | sup jester | 01:07 |
| Gerro | xfce is its name | 01:07 |
| Gerro | hence when you open process manager everything says xfce | 01:07 |
| aboyousif | billy_, x stands for xfce .. | 01:08 |
| billy_ | i'm attempting to restore the window decorations after a failed compiz experiment. | 01:08 |
| billy_ | in gnome, I just go metacity --replace. Similar for xfce? | 01:08 |
| billy_ | xfce --replace doesn't help, though. | 01:08 |
| billy_ | xfce | 01:09 |
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| Gerro | no clue about that billy | 01:12 |
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| kanpachi | hello, i can't print anything from mousepad, though i can print from firefox, can anyone help please? | 01:40 |
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| TheSheep | boje: do you think you could disable this script when you are here? | 04:29 |
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| asmith42a | Is there an app similar to Spiceworks? http://www.spiceworks.com | 04:36 |
| asmith42a | Mostly I want to inventory. | 04:36 |
| TheSheep | Spiceworks IT Desktop is the only application that combines Network Inventory, Help Desk, Reporting, Monitoring and Troubleshooting in a single, easy-to-use interface designed for IT teams in small and medium businesses. | 04:38 |
| TheSheep | they wouldn't lie, would they? ;) | 04:38 |
| asmith42a | lol | 04:38 |
| asmith42a | Marketing has their own halo budget. | 04:39 |
| TheSheep | asmith42a: there are actually lots of snmp tools, but most of them are blocks to build your own custom solutions | 04:39 |
| h3sp4wn | There is definately something available for Solaris that is like that (Probably commercial though) | 04:39 |
| h3sp4wn | (I have seen someone running one using Sunray's) | 04:39 |
| asmith42a | Ah. Thank you. | 04:39 |
| TheSheep | asmith42a: we use nagios for monitoring, but it's not exactly like that | 04:39 |
| asmith42a | My main goal is to get device information without having to leave my seat. | 04:40 |
| asmith42a | And I want to it to export into a simple form. | 04:40 |
| TheSheep | asmith42a: you can do it with a simple snmp query, although nagios has this automated I think | 04:41 |
| asmith42a | OK. I'll look into that. Thank you. | 04:41 |
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| makki | hi guys | 04:42 |
| asmith42a | TheSheep: Nagios is a client. Not quite what I'm after, but thanks. | 04:45 |
| asmith42a | Anyway, on a similar note, Is there such a thing as a Linux update server that pushes updates onto clients? | 04:46 |
| TheSheep | asmith42a: you can set up an own deb repositiory and use the normal ubuntu update tools with it | 04:47 |
| asmith42a | Ah, of course. Thank you. | 04:48 |
| TheSheep | asmith42a: you can add something to rc.local to make th clinets pull the updates on startup | 04:48 |
| asmith42a | Awesome. | 04:48 |
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| h3sp4wn | asmith42a: You can pin it to a higher priority than normal (if necessary) | 04:57 |
| h3sp4wn | (i.e a priority of 1001 would always install your version - giving you time to fix your package in the event of a security update) | 04:59 |
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| W8TAH | someone in another room told me to check into desktop effects (which he said was compiz) but im having a hard time finding it -- can someone point me in the right direction? | 05:24 |
| TheSheep | !compiz | 05:26 |
| ubotu | Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects | 05:26 |
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| W8TAH | excellent | 05:26 |
| W8TAH | :) | 05:26 |
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| lysergide | Hi , i have weird problem ... so , | 06:34 |
| lysergide | Hi , i have weird problem ... so , when i start Deluge or Azureus it loading and then just diying | 06:34 |
| lysergide | Even doesnt appear at process manager | 06:35 |
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| lysergide | any ideas how i can fix this ? | 06:36 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, try to start them from terminal and see the error | 06:37 |
| lysergide | k | 06:38 |
| lysergide | aboyousif its a bit long error , shoud i paste @ private ? | 06:39 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, use pastebin.ca | 06:39 |
| lysergide | http://pastebin.ca/481088 | 06:41 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, do you have python and gtk installed ? | 06:42 |
| lysergide | aboyousif got python | 06:42 |
| lysergide | aboyousif gtk not sure | 06:42 |
| lysergide | aboyousif but deluge was workin fine | 06:43 |
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| aboyousif | lysergide, you should check deluge site to see if you have the requirements | 06:43 |
| lysergide | aboyousif im starting the pc today , tryin to run deluge and nothing happeninh | 06:43 |
| lysergide | aboyousif well i have dled till now like 50G with deluge :X | 06:43 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, you upgraded any thing .. from edgy to feisty ? from python 2.4 to 2.5 ? | 06:44 |
| lysergide | aboyousif nothing | 06:45 |
| lysergide | aboyousif yday i shuted down my pc with workin delufe 2day i turn it on , tryin to start deluge and like it loading and then just dyinhg | 06:45 |
| lysergide | lot misstypes :D | 06:45 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, i'm not english .. so don't write like this again :D | 06:46 |
| lysergide | aboyousif sry :X | 06:47 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, no problem .. i was just kidding with you | 06:47 |
| lysergide | :D | 06:47 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, do you have feisty ? | 06:47 |
| lysergide | aboyousif yep | 06:48 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, then try to get the new deb file and reinstall it | 06:48 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubuntu/feisty/ | 06:48 |
| lysergide | aboyousif k tnx ill try | 06:50 |
| aboyousif | lysergide, sorry but it seems deluge problem and i don't use it just try reinstalling it and ask in their forum if it is a bug or somewhat .. | 06:51 |
| lysergide | aboyousif y ill do it later because gf is callin' me atm , tnx for help anyway | 06:51 |
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| He3eK | Hi PPL! | 07:17 |
| He3eK | Guys I am a noob in Linux... I need to connect to a WPA network on my xubuntu... | 07:21 |
| He3eK | how do I enable it? please... | 07:22 |
| h3sp4wn | have a look at /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz | 07:25 |
| h3sp4wn | (just README.modes on dapper) | 07:25 |
| aboyousif | !wpa | 07:25 |
| ubotu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 07:25 |
| He3eK | Thanks! that's something!! | 07:27 |
| h3sp4wn | I would avoid network manager if it all possible | 07:29 |
| He3eK | How do I do it without then? ...as I said I am a noob, need to start somwhere... | 07:30 |
| h3sp4wn | zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz | 07:30 |
| h3sp4wn | tells you the syntax for /etc/network/interfaces | 07:30 |
| h3sp4wn | any questions about the doc ask me | 07:30 |
| He3eK | ok! thanks!!! | 07:31 |
| He3eK | going to read now... | 07:31 |
| h3sp4wn | is the wireless card already detected ? | 07:32 |
| He3eK | Yep | 07:32 |
| He3eK | I did connect with it at work, but at home I have WPA protected router & that's an issue... | 07:32 |
| h3sp4wn | know what chipset its using ? | 07:32 |
| He3eK | Aheros | 07:32 |
| He3eK | Atheros... | 07:33 |
| h3sp4wn | what release of xubuntu ? | 07:33 |
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| He3eK | 7.*** downloaded today the latest... | 07:33 |
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| IraqiGeek | hi all | 07:52 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, hi | 07:53 |
| IraqiGeek | im trying to install xubuntu 7.04 on an acer c104 tablet pc | 07:53 |
| Abd | HI Iraqiii geek | 07:53 |
| aboyousif | !tablet | 07:53 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:53 |
| IraqiGeek | hi abo yousif and abd | 07:53 |
| IraqiGeek | ubotu, its just a normal notebook | 07:53 |
| IraqiGeek | however the cdrom is externa, through firewire | 07:54 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, ubotu is bot | 07:54 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, i think c104 is the same as c 100 right ? | 07:54 |
| IraqiGeek | yyyyyyep | 07:54 |
| IraqiGeek | it boots the setup alright, but cant detect the drive | 07:54 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, try normal cdrom on usb and set it to master | 07:55 |
| IraqiGeek | the drive is connected through firewire | 07:55 |
| h3sp4wn | !boot floppy | 07:55 |
| ubotu | Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto | 07:55 |
| godless | hi | 07:55 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, i have c100 and i use it like that .. i don't have tablet cd or floppy drive | 07:55 |
| godless | I'm looking for a good eyedropper util? something to sit in my system tray and copy colour codes off the screen to the clipboard when I'd like? | 07:56 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, or if you have another pc connected you can set it as http server | 07:56 |
| IraqiGeek | hmm, ill try usb first | 07:56 |
| aboyousif | godless, there was a good gnome colorpicker made in python i used it with xfce too | 07:56 |
| aboyousif | godless, but you need to add a gnome tablet first | 07:57 |
| aboyousif | godless, sorry s/tablet/applet :) | 07:57 |
| godless | aboyousif: what's it called? | 07:57 |
| godless | Does bluefish have one built in? | 07:58 |
| godless | seems it should but I can't find it | 07:58 |
| aboyousif | godless, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358859 | 07:59 |
| godless | thanks. | 07:59 |
| aboyousif | godless, you are welcome | 07:59 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, my only proplem with c100 is the battery .. my batt. is %3 only capacity so i put it always on charger .. and i don't have wireless adapter too i don't know what is the suitable minipci card to it | 08:00 |
| IraqiGeek | the battery on mine is almost dead too | 08:00 |
| h3sp4wn | Wistron CM9's are very good wireless mini pci cards | 08:00 |
| IraqiGeek | as for wifi, any minipci should work | 08:00 |
| IraqiGeek | mine has some old fart 802.11b card | 08:01 |
| W8TAH | anyone here running beryl? -- im having some issues and need some help | 08:01 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, not any .. i asked for acer support and they said only the model came with it works .. i tried some minipcis in market and none worked | 08:02 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, i think it is intel 802.11b | 08:02 |
| IraqiGeek | yeah yeah yeah, u know how those manufacturers like to make things sound complicated | 08:02 |
| godless | W8TAH: I'm running beryl on one box but I'm no expert... try #beryl... | 08:02 |
| godless | W8TAH: Although I will help if I can :) | 08:03 |
| h3sp4wn | You can usually get round any silly vendor limitations like that | 08:03 |
| IraqiGeek | i've taken mine apart more times than i care to count, and its just a normal mini-pci card | 08:03 |
| W8TAH | godless -- ok - -well -- im running feisty and xfce --- ive gotten xgl installed | 08:03 |
| W8TAH | and started | 08:03 |
| IraqiGeek | aboyousif, no its not an intel, i dont recall wat it is, and im not in windows so cant check | 08:03 |
| godless | W8TAH: First, what is your video card? | 08:04 |
| W8TAH | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] | 08:04 |
| W8TAH | direct from lspci | 08:04 |
| godless | similar to mine. (radeon 9600 pro) | 08:04 |
| W8TAH | ok | 08:04 |
| godless | What driver are you using? | 08:04 |
| W8TAH | xgl | 08:05 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, i think you can check it after you install linux .. | 08:05 |
| IraqiGeek | i recall there were plenty of places online that stated it | 08:05 |
| godless | W8TAH: Did you follow the guide @ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28ATI.29 | 08:07 |
| godless | ? | 08:07 |
| godless | You should be able to use aiglx | 08:07 |
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| godless | I had to set some things differently than that howto says, but. | 08:08 |
| W8TAH | humm -- i thought i did | 08:08 |
| W8TAH | lemme go back and go over it again | 08:08 |
| godless | OK, I'm getting ahead of myself.. what exactly is the problem? :) | 08:08 |
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| W8TAH | lots of proc use, and lots of errors in xsessions-errors | 08:09 |
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| h3sp4wn | I would avoid Xgl if you possibly can | 08:10 |
| W8TAH | ok | 08:11 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, you still in iraq ? | 08:11 |
| IraqiGeek | aboyousef, nope | 08:11 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, from where in iraq ? | 08:11 |
| IraqiGeek | baghdad | 08:12 |
| godless | W8TAH: Add these to your xorg.conf under Section "Device": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20219/ | 08:12 |
| godless | (with thanks to h3sp4wn) | 08:12 |
| IraqiGeek | how do i tell the xubuntu installer to install over ftp? | 08:12 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, a7san nass :) | 08:12 |
| godless | I haven't tweeked it fully but it works for me and should work for you | 08:12 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, you need to get the alternate cd i think | 08:12 |
| IraqiGeek | aboyousef, inta il a7san | 08:13 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, is usb didn't work for you ? | 08:13 |
| IraqiGeek | couldnt find how to tell it to use usb | 08:13 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, you should boot from cd | 08:13 |
| IraqiGeek | i quickly setup a local ftp server on another machine, courtesy of filezilla | 08:13 |
| IraqiGeek | aboyousef, i am booting from the cd | 08:14 |
| IraqiGeek | aboyousef, mneen? | 08:14 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, masr :) | 08:14 |
| IraqiGeek | aboyousef, agda3 naas | 08:14 |
| godless | W8TAH: Reboot and see what's up. My settings under the Beryl Jewel advanced menu are all auto except force aiglx... | 08:14 |
| W8TAH | ok - | 08:15 |
| godless | W8TAH: Worth noting that I am using the open source radeon driver | 08:15 |
| W8TAH | ok - also - thank you | 08:15 |
| aboyousif | IraqiGeek, teslam .. i think we should stop talking in this language here .. people may thin us nuts in english :) | 08:15 |
| godless | if you have switched to fglrx (or whatever the closed source ati drivers are) than this may be of no use | 08:15 |
| IraqiGeek | aboyousef, lol! | 08:15 |
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| IraqiGeek | aboyousef, im already booting the alternate cd | 08:18 |
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| IraqiGeek | can i install xubuntu 7.04 from within 6.06? | 08:24 |
| Catoptromancy | sure | 08:28 |
| IraqiGeek | how? | 08:28 |
| Catoptromancy | if your lucky upadte manager might work | 08:28 |
| W8TAH | godless -- got it working - thanks for the assist - -i was using the wrong driver | 08:28 |
| IraqiGeek | well, lets just say that im not lucky | 08:29 |
| Catoptromancy | I downloaded the alernate CD | 08:29 |
| Catoptromancy | then type "sudo apt-get update" | 08:29 |
| IraqiGeek | there is a bash script in the 7.04 cd called cdromupgrade, but its not running, saying permission denied | 08:29 |
| gnomefreak | IraqiGeek: upgrade to 6.10 than upgrade to 7.04 | 08:30 |
| Catoptromancy | ohh 6.06 | 08:30 |
| IraqiGeek | cato, the alternate cd is already wat i have | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | IraqiGeek: you need to run it with sudo. | 08:30 |
| IraqiGeek | im already logged in as root | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | !upgrade > IraqiGeek | IraqiGeek please read the pm from ubotu | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | IraqiGeek: i didnt say logged in as root | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | IraqiGeek: su and sudo are not the same | 08:31 |
| IraqiGeek | gnomefreak, ok... | 08:31 |
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| IG | for some reason, the wifi adapter isnt showing (it used to work fine) | 08:42 |
| IG | and the upgrade script cannot upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 :( | 08:42 |
| kalikiana | IG, Please give us more information. What ubuntu version are you using? What kind of upgrade script are you talking about? | 08:45 |
| h3sp4wn | You cannot skip a release | 08:45 |
| IG | kalik, i have xubuntu 6.06 installed and im trying to install xubuntu 7.04 | 08:45 |
| IG | btw, im iraqigeek, just got disconnected | 08:46 |
| IG | the cdrom is external, connected through firewire, and the xubuntu installer isnt detecting it, though its booting from it | 08:47 |
| aboyousif | IG you can rename your self by using / msg nickserv ghost IragiGeek <password> then /nick | 08:48 |
| grazie | IG: 6.06 > 6.10 > 7.04 | 08:48 |
| kalikiana | Ah, ok. So what about upgrading to 6.10 first? If you don't want to reinstall there is no other way. Apart from being unsupported skipping versions is fairly dangerous. | 08:48 |
| IG | well i do want to install, its just that i cant | 08:48 |
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| IG | grazie, so do i | 08:49 |
| grazie | IG: what's stopping you? | 08:49 |
| IG | grazie, the xubuntu (alternate cd) installer isnt detecting the cdrom, even though im booting from it | 08:50 |
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| kalikiana | IG, What does 'detect' mean? Mounting? | 08:51 |
| grazie | IG: network (minimal) install is possible if you've got a good connetion | 08:51 |
| IG | detect as in the installer saying "cannot detect cdrom drive" | 08:51 |
| grazie | IG: I've heard at least one other person with the same problem... | 08:52 |
| IG | grazie, good to know im not alone | 08:54 |
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| IG | anyone has any idea how to work around that? | 08:56 |
| IG | the firewire controller is listed alright in lspci | 08:56 |
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| godless | W8TAH: Glad to hear it. Enjoy your hours of pointless noodling before you get exasperated and switch back to xfce or fluxbox :) | 09:02 |
| godless | good for showing off to friends though | 09:03 |
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| W8TAH | LOL | 09:05 |
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| |Slurp33| | what is nice light weight cd/dvd burning software for xubuntu | 09:09 |
| jadelrab | |Slurp33|, brasero is good | 09:10 |
| hyper_ch | xfburn | 09:10 |
| hyper_ch | intergrated in xubuntu | 09:10 |
| |Slurp33| | completely missed that | 09:11 |
| |Slurp33| | thanx | 09:11 |
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| grazie | |Slurp33|: xfburn doesn't seem to work for everyone...I like graveman | 09:19 |
| h3sp4wn | Is xfburn anything other than a gui for the cli tools ? | 09:19 |
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| hyper_ch | h3sp4wn: nah, not really | 09:26 |
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| h3sp4wn | I cannot understand how it could be broken then (either work for noone or everyone) | 09:32 |
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| |Slurp33| | anyone recommend a good way to get xvid to work? | 10:33 |
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| sk__ | I would like to remote control the logged in session on my new xubuntu machine.. However, even after quite some googling, I don't know which direction to look in or if it's possible. (VNC like in the "normal" ububtu version would be nice... ) | 10:35 |
| totalwormage | you'll need vino | 10:35 |
| totalwormage | for as far as i know :] | 10:35 |
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| sk__ | thanks - a new word to feed to "the web" ;) | 10:36 |
| totalwormage | vino-server actually, then you can login to the xubuntu machine with just plain vnc :] | 10:36 |
| totalwormage | :p | 10:36 |
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| totalwormage | |Slurp33|: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ? | 10:37 |
| aboyousif | !xvid | 10:39 |
| ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 10:39 |
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| BrendanM | Ok, so I'm trying to run SNES9x (an SNES emu) but in order to do fullscreen mode, it needs access to "/dev/mem" and I can't figure out how to do that. I tried adding my user to the "kmem" group, but that doesn't seem to do it. Any suggestions? | 11:09 |
| h3sp4wn | ls -l /dev/kvm | 11:10 |
| h3sp4wn | kmem only has read | 11:10 |
| mcscruff | lo all, i have a dirty windows box set up but it has become virus/malware/adware city, is there a way t oclean it up from my nix box on my lan? | 11:10 |
| h3sp4wn | BrendanM: zsnes is alot better emulator anyway | 11:10 |
| h3sp4wn | but if you are on 64bit you need a chroot | 11:10 |
| BrendanM | h3sp4wn, I have zsnes too, but for certain games, zsnes screws up the sound | 11:11 |
| BrendanM | I changed the permissions on "mem" so that the group "kmem" has read+write access, but that still doesn't work | 11:12 |
| BrendanM | running SNES9x as root does work, btw | 11:12 |
| h3sp4wn | BrendanM: what version of zsnes ? | 11:13 |
| h3sp4wn | 1.51 built with libao for sound works great | 11:13 |
| h3sp4wn | !info zsnes | 11:13 |
| ubotu | zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386) | 11:13 |
| h3sp4wn | that version is ancient | 11:13 |
| BrendanM | I have 1.51, I got it from www.getdeb.net | 11:14 |
| BrendanM | I don't know whether it's built with libao | 11:15 |
| h3sp4wn | ldd `which zsnes` | grep libao | 11:15 |
| BrendanM | ? | 11:16 |
| h3sp4wn | no output means its not compiled with it | 11:16 |
| h3sp4wn | (in which case I don't have much faith in whoever built the packages) | 11:17 |
| BrendanM | hmm, well, in any case, I guess I'll just run snes9x with sudo. I wish i could figure out what's up with the /dev/mem thing | 11:18 |
| h3sp4wn | or read about suid | 11:18 |
| h3sp4wn | but it would be irresponsible to advise making snes9x suid root | 11:19 |
| W8TAH | how would i go about adding a terminal to the right click menu? | 11:20 |
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| Zoofmu | #xubuntuCould someone help me please, I run Xubuntu, but I got no close/minimize/restor bar.. I removed beryl and restarted X now everything is gone. | 11:48 |
| Jester45 | press alt + F2 | 11:49 |
| Jester45 | does it have the normal xfce window or beryls or none | 11:49 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 none | 11:49 |
| Zoofmu | just says run | 11:49 |
| Jester45 | ok in that box type xfwm4 then click run | 11:49 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 done, worked perfectluy .) | 11:50 |
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| Zoofmu | thanks Jester45 | 11:50 |
| Jester45 | then press alt + f2 again, does it have a border now | 11:50 |
| Jester45 | k | 11:50 |
| Jester45 | no problem | 11:50 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 how do I make it default? | 11:50 |
| Zoofmu | like Xubuntu was from a fresh install, so I dont have to write that all the time | 11:50 |
| ZER0 | sorry to interupt, if im interrupting, but i have a question about installing the javac command | 11:51 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 shoot | 11:51 |
| Jester45 | you could make it auto execute command or.. save the session when you log out | 11:51 |
| ZER0 | aight, i installed the java command easy, but i am having trouble installing javac, i installed a file downloaded from sun, jdk6.0.1, and i dont know the commands to link files to the command | 11:51 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 how is default, how do I make it default | 11:51 |
| Jester45 | mpc | 11:51 |
| Jester45 | oops | 11:52 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 autoexecute command will just lag the system | 11:52 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 and I dont like saving sessions | 11:52 |
| Jester45 | umm | 11:52 |
| ZER0 | any help? | 11:52 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 | 11:53 |
| Zoofmu | you shouldnt | 11:53 |
| ZER0 | yes | 11:53 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 just next time | 11:53 |
| Jester45 | ZER0: so your tring to install java? | 11:53 |
| Zoofmu | sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk | 11:53 |
| Zoofmu | do that | 11:53 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 can you help me? | 11:53 |
| Jester45 | Zoofmu: thats what i want getting to | 11:53 |
| ZER0 | will that sudo apt-get install thingy download the jdk again? | 11:54 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 i just told him how to do it ;) | 11:54 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 yeah and install it too :) | 11:54 |
| Jester45 | ZER0: do what Zoofmu said sudo apt-get install sun-java<version number>-<type> | 11:54 |
| ZER0 | <type>? | 11:54 |
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| Zoofmu | there is run time and there is developer | 11:54 |
| Jester45 | yea the jdk jre | 11:54 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 JDK or JRE | 11:54 |
| Zoofmu | Jester45 got ya ;) | 11:54 |
| ZER0 | ok, thanks, ill do that | 11:55 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 just type | 11:55 |
| h3sp4wn | I usually just get bin | 11:55 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk | 11:55 |
| ZER0 | alright | 11:55 |
| Zoofmu | ZER0 sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk then sun-java6-jre if u want that too :) | 11:55 |
| ZER0 | alright, thanks | 11:55 |
| Jester45 | and if you want you could get java5 | 11:55 |
| ZER0 | ok | 11:56 |
| ZER0 | oh | 11:56 |
| Jester45 | use apt also lets you easly update | 11:56 |
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| ZER0 | btw, i was working with automatix earlier, and i wanted to install gdesklets, but it kept freezing... is there gdesklets on apt-get too? | 11:56 |
| Jester45 | !info gdesklets | 11:57 |
| ubotu | gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB | 11:57 |
| Jester45 | yep | 11:57 |
| ZER0 | thanks | 11:57 |
| ZER0 | downloading jdk now | 11:57 |
| ZER0 | thanks alot for the help | 11:58 |
| ZER0 | bye | 11:58 |
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| Jester45 | !info toolame | 11:59 |
| ubotu | toolame: MPEG-1 layer 2 audio encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 02l-3 (feisty), package size 87 kB, installed size 292 kB | 11:59 |
| Jester45 | !info lame | 11:59 |
| ubotu | lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB | 11:59 |
| Jester45 | anyone know what one is better? | 12:00 |
| h3sp4wn | they do different things according to the descriptions | 12:00 |
| h3sp4wn | (or lame might do both) | 12:01 |
| Jester45 | well.. ripperx has toolame and lame as mp3 encoder options | 12:01 |
| Zoofmu | Does anyone know how to make xfwm4 as standard, I recently removed beryl and now xfwm4 is not there everytime I start Xubuntu | 12:06 |
| h3sp4wn | Jester45: lame is more well known - What I cannot understand is why toolame is not also in multiverse if they both encode mp3 | 12:07 |
| Jester45 | i installed both | 12:07 |
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