[12:23] ok it worked [12:24] but booting into the 2.2.20 kernel didnt start the X server either [12:24] Do you have: Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager? [12:24] 2.6.20 [12:24] execute startx [12:24] i dont have X [12:24] it doenst start [12:24] what error? [12:24] can load module nvidia [12:25] ah [12:25] now it says it cant find the module file [12:25] in /usr/lib/module [12:25] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf [12:25] doesnt work [12:25] but i think i need to reinstall the nvidia module [12:25] reconfigure your xserver... then you can boot into x and then you can install the restricted drivers [12:25] what didn't work? [12:26] that sudo line [12:26] what error? [12:26] now i'm reinstalling the nvidia modules [12:26] wait [12:26] you see, a comment "didn't work" doesn't help much [12:26] i know but i'm trying to reinstall the nvidia module [12:26] because it didnt exist [12:27] why not using vesa [12:27] ok now it talked about nvidia api mismatch [12:27] between x-server and kernel-module [12:27] when doing "startx" [12:27] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf [12:28] "xorg-conf is not installed" [12:28] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server [12:28] same [12:28] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [12:28] damn, what was it again :) [12:28] and then? [12:28] it worked [12:28] what now [12:28] its asking me what driver to use [12:28] go throught the menus [12:28] is nvidia there? [12:29] or nv? [12:29] use nv [12:29] or vesa [12:29] WTF is it asking me!! [12:29] i dont want that [12:29] i can change the driver myself [12:29] then go ahead === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-217-25.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:31] ok X is running now [12:31] what now? [12:31] Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager? [12:31] ok i enabled it [12:31] now? [12:31] reboot [12:31] (or restart xserver) [12:32] ctrl+alt+backspace [12:32] its better to restart gdm === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@d5-8.rb2.clm.centurytel.net] has left #xubuntu ["Oh] [12:35] ok re [12:35] i rebooted [12:35] the x server says the api version doesnt match [12:35] between the X and the kernel module [12:35] no clue [12:35] ooo [12:36] thats not good, what did you install [12:36] i just followed the instructions :/ [12:36] he had gutsy kernel === Atan_fx [n=serverda@201.206.184.86] has joined #xubuntu [12:36] and followed some instructions from some wiki [12:36] well it looked like semi-official [12:36] well anyways [12:36] hi, Espaol, [12:36] which packages are relevant? [12:36] !es | Atan_fx [12:36] i'll try to remove and reinstall them [12:36] Atan_fx: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. [12:36] nvidia-glx for one, what else? [12:37] ok thanks [12:38] !de | kalikiana [12:38] kalikiana: #xubuntu-de [12:40] hyper_ch, I know. I just wanted to try that command because I saw it for the first time. :D [12:40] So there is no #xubuntu-es? [12:40] kalikiana: try to enter that channel and you'll see [12:40] there is [12:40] re [12:40] so, any ideas? :( [12:41] Someone should tell ubotu about #xubuntu-es, else it's confusing. [12:41] or...not [12:41] kalikiana: tell seveas === Atan_fx [n=serverda@201.206.184.86] has left #xubuntu ["Saliendo"] [12:42] so [12:42] if i have nvidia-glx [12:43] and nvidia-kernel-common [12:43] shouldnt those two be compatible? [12:47] i've only got voltaile/nvidia_new.o [12:47] as kernel module === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:08] hyper_ch: i got it to work with "envy" === archangelpetro [n=petroleu@82.152.210.48] has joined #xubuntu === ochosi [n=chatzill@chello084114031037.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === ZenDJiNN_ [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-168-211.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === deniz_ogu1 [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has joined #xubuntu === deniz_ogu1 [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has left #xubuntu [] === ZenDJiNN [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-168-211.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === ZenDJiNN [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-168-211.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman [n=bobo@225.Red-83-32-188.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === friarjac1 [n=Jack@adsl-211-148-147.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:47] I'm a newbie trying to install Xubuntu, and I need help. [01:50] ? [01:53] install appears to be hung up installing "anthy" at 65%. I read in the forums that "anthy" is not necessary. And gave a way to switch to the console, enter the "ps" command, use the process id that ps give & kill it. I did all that, but I do not see a process id. The text is longer than my screen length, so I miss the top part. Is it up there, or do I just not know what I'm looking for and it's right in front of me? === W8TAH [n=tholmes@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:56] hi folks -- i need a suggestion -- ive been playing with kino and pitivi for video editing -- i can capture easilly with kino, but i need to find a good editor - -specifically, i need to add text and graphics to the video, as well as put in transitions - any suggestions? === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman [n=bobo@168.Red-88-18-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54A5E58F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === |Slurpee| [n=ask@DHCP-192-114.onshore.com] has joined #xubuntu === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:19] <|Slurpee|> anyone still here from my odd issue earlier ? [02:20] <|Slurpee|> the alternate cd got me further into the installation [02:21] <|Slurpee|> now I am getting odd errors while installing the base system [02:21] <|Slurpee|> saying it cant find specific files [02:28] <|Slurpee|> i am an idiot [02:28] <|Slurpee|> stupid http request did not download entire file. === bur[n] er_ [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-226-106.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === almartz [n=chatzill@201.3.185.98] has joined #xubuntu === ZenDJiNN [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-168-211.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === Ry-Fi [n=ry@24.225.255.120] has joined #xubuntu === Ry-Fi sighs [03:09] why are all the new distros made so you *have* to load the live cd first before u can install === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@c-134-232-137.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:14] well, you can use the alternate installer image. It's text-based and just an installer. [03:14] bleh, so i have to reburn another iso [03:14] i think im running out of disks [03:14] I can send you some [03:14] well the system only as 128mb of ram, kubuntu should run on that right? [03:14] Well, if your machine(s) is(are) capable of netboot/PXE, then do that... [03:14] *after* its installed [03:15] Kubuntu will be tight on 128 MB. Even Xubuntu will be. Try Damn Small Linux or something. [03:15] haha this computer doesnt even have an ethernet port [03:15] hrm [03:15] ive never done a network install before [03:15] is it done easily? i can install a PCI nic really quick [03:15] they're intense [03:16] crowe O_o [03:16] hahahah [03:16] what? [03:16] thats random why arnt u in #cnerdc [03:16] I was caught [03:16] oh u still banned> [03:16] they found the "photo shopped" pci [03:17] pic* [03:17] of Ash> [03:17] ?** [03:17] of me [03:17] which picture is this? [03:18] the one you didn't see [03:21] ok so how does a network install go? [03:21] cause i did just delete the iso [03:21] get the alt cd [03:21] use that [03:22] rgr [03:22] downloading [03:23] see [03:23] the ironic part is [03:23] windows installed just fine [03:23] but linux? [03:23] NO [03:23] such a pain in the assssssss [03:26] wow, people don't like you already === jikuty [i=em@CPE001195752c87-CM00111ade8af2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:26] all im saying is windows made it a lot more convienient [03:29] windows was you child === _aussieman [n=bobo@223.Red-88-25-159.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === odat [n=ronnie@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:33] hi everyone anyone know why gnomebaker would have trouble reading track data when burning === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch [03:35] odat have u tried installing windows> [03:35] ?* [03:35] jk === Ry-Fi [n=ry@24.225.255.120] has left #xubuntu [] === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-217-25.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === nekomancer [n=nekomanc@cpe-71-72-35-233.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:43] hello room! [03:44] i am currently installing 7.04 on a old p3 computer [03:44] and was wondering if there was a file system that would be bettersuited, speed wise, for this pc [03:47] sounds like you are cramped for memory and cpu..not much you can do tot improvr [03:47] yes. 256 mb Ram, (+64 mb video card ram) and 700mhz processor [03:48] so it's more cramped for cpu than ram i guess [03:49] it's just a pc for a music player and little sister surfing the net/word processing, so it should be fine. but any tiny improvement would be nice [03:52] i use use ext3 its simpler and you will not gain that much performance over others for what it might be doing === pRrp [i=fu@c-67-186-111-183.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] that tis what i figured would be said. [03:53] but nothing lost in the asking [03:53] Jester45, you're in here a lot [03:53] nekomancer: you might want to make 2 partitions, 1 at / for system files and 1 at /home for user stuff. its a lot safer if the system messes up then your sis will not loose her stuff [03:53] yea i am [03:54] nekomancer: the / should be fine at 10g or less. how big is the drive? [03:54] Jester45, i'm well aware of that, but thanks! one for music files, one for home, one for the rest of the stuff === pimp^air [n=squirrel@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-234.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:54] 19 gigs [03:54] hi [03:54] i'm looking for something like ms acces for gnome which is not openoffice [03:55] nekomancer: i would do under 500mb swap but thats just me [03:55] but don't know what to google for? [03:55] 6 music 8 root 7 home [03:55] is there something like a gnome database-application? [03:55] oder some gtk-based app [03:55] :) [03:55] swap is set at 300 megs [03:55] pimp^air: try php maybe, or google for linux spreedsheet datavase [03:56] php:) [03:56] nekomancer: ok, if you want you can make the / partition a reisner fs, i think its faster but i dont know the stats on it [03:56] all i need it for is some customer invoice stuff of the most simple kind === maxbeatt [n=maxbeatt@74-133-12-181.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:57] Jester45, riser is only faster on a fast cpu [03:57] pimp^air: search google for a linux database program [03:58] most things listed there are databases containing linux programm [03:58] Jester45, and only if you are using small files. it's good for mp3 playback, mail servers, and the like. it's cpu intecive [03:58] s [03:58] :) [03:58] and lots of oracle related stuff [03:58] nekomancer: ok, i didnt quite know its faster for me, there is somthing like xfs wich is good but i dont know the name [03:58] pimp^air, why don't you like the open office stuff? [03:59] because it doesn't work on my fresh xubuntu install [03:59] nekomancer: yea, the system part "/" is mostly small files if the bigger files are on a 2nd partition [03:59] Jester45, it's called XFS. i did my googling and decided to check here prior to installing [03:59] i tried it out, the forms assistant for example doesnt work [03:59] i tried java5 and java6 [03:59] no luck [03:59] Jester45, riser also takes long to mount [04:00] nekomancer: well you know about as much as me...but you can remember the name [04:00] pimp^air, how did you install open office? [04:00] well... i will be right back my fluxbox is done complieing [04:00] aptitude install openoffice.org [04:01] y? [04:01] did you run as root? [04:01] with sudo [04:01] and did you update first also? (sudo aptitude update) [04:02] of course === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-217-25.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:02] still the wizard won't open [04:03] pimp^air, it works on my computer... i'd try reinstalling it... [04:03] openoffice.org? [04:03] k, i'll do that [04:03] sudo aptitdue purge openoffice.org [04:03] you know the drill :P [04:03] if you want i would apt-get clean to remove the downloaded debs [04:03] yes, that could help [04:03] before reinstalled or your installed in same thing [04:04] openoffice.org is a meta-package [04:04] so it removed 0 bytes [04:04] :) [04:04] although unlikely, you may have gotten a bad or corrupted download [04:04] maybe i installed it using apt-get === _aussieman [n=bobo@96.Red-80-39-150.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:04] yea, but meta packages have other packages linked to them so when iyou isntalled that meta package it installed others [04:04] yes [04:05] but removing it may not have worked in that fashon [04:05] yes, it depends on them, but they don't depend on it [04:05] pimp^air: did you apt-get clean openoffice.org? or just 'apt-get clean' [04:05] i don't know the pieces to open office, sorry [04:05] it's just apt-get clean [04:05] clears the entire cache [04:05] i wasnt sure if you could add a package name to clean, [04:06] ok... brb again i tihnk it should work now [04:06] no, did clean [04:07] nekomancer: which version of java are you using? [04:07] good question [04:07] hjehe === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-217-25.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:08] how can i find out? java -v tossed an unreconsied option at me [04:08] java makes me unhappy... long live python [04:08] java is fun [04:09] Jester45, have you even tried python? [04:09] java -version [04:09] yea [04:09] java version "1.6.0" [04:09] Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105) [04:09] Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing) === hitmanWilly [n=hitmanWi@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:10] Jester45, and you still find java fun?! i fail to understand... it's slower, harder to read/write, and dosen't run as smoothly === kalikiana nodds heavily at nekomancer. [04:11] i dont like most python apps [04:11] python ftw [04:11] :) [04:11] Jester45, so you are simply a user. [04:11] yea === kalikiana gives Jester45 an 'h'. [04:12] Jester45, the reason for that seems to be advertising... many people think java is some sort of standard or something... [04:12] ok, doing a reinstall of openoffice [04:13] after purging everything beginning with openoffive [04:13] in its name [04:13] Jester45, but you should know things like the beloved YouTube are writen in python [04:13] idk what is standard [04:13] i hate youtube [04:13] 90MB download [04:13] Jester45, and python is what was the suggest language for Ubuntu entries into the Summer Of Code [04:13] yeah.... but if queen mum gets raped you can be sure it'll be posted to youtube in no time === kalikiana would like YoutTube if it was not using Flash excessively. [04:13] videos are crappy [04:14] and yes, i know she's dead [04:14] :) [04:14] why isnt there python flash? [04:14] phlash [04:14] :) === nekomancer agrees with kalikiana, but it's more of a would like more... i can handle some Flash. [04:15] good one pimp^air. === nekomancer ponders if kalikiana has ever taken a look at ruby... [04:16] i like bash over html :) but thats not hard === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-217-25.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:17] i wrote couple of htmls using bash and echo [04:17] .) [04:17] cgi ftw [04:17] no look after a reinstall [04:17] html isn't a language. Well, real language... it simply displays stuff, Jester45 [04:17] my flux doesnt wanna work [04:17] i dont care [04:17] building from source sometimes does that [04:17] i didnt say anything about a language [04:18] if you want to do everything from source, then i suggest gentoo... [04:18] nekomancer, I tried the tutorial on ruby's website. I find it unfamiliar but maybe not bad. I didn't look at it further so far. [04:18] or sabayon [04:18] no [04:18] sabayon is pretty cool [04:18] only good ting from gentoo, besides the gentoo wiki [04:19] i wish i could of got my dual heads working [04:19] then i would have a dedicated irssi screen === Jester45 wonders where is F1-12 buttons are === kalikiana points Jester45 to his keyboard. [04:20] kalikiana, i agree that it feels too unfamiliar... esp for something they tote as 'natural''. but many people swear by it, and it has a similar reputation to python so i was wondering [04:20] i got bored one day with a dremal and carved a keyboard holder in my desk [04:20] see... openoffice just doesn't work [04:20] do you have openoffice.org-gcj installed? [04:21] so the board is level with desk, and well the F buttons made it to big so i removed them also [04:21] brb last time [04:21] sorry, pimp^air, i just installed it with aptitude along with quite a few other things. i'm using 6.10 tho, thinking about it. That may be the differance [04:21] well, might be [04:22] i doubt they would have allowed oo to become broken tho === Jester45 [n=ryan@207-119-217-25.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:22] that would be sad [04:24] nekomancer, The 'rails' is pretty popular with some webdesigners indeed. I am happy with python, c and php for everything I need currently, speaking of coding. I suppose future will show if ruby can compete with python. [04:25] I'm especially not sure yet if ruby is good for non-web projects. [04:25] wow [04:25] installing the free crap version of java did the trink [04:25] trick === Sutekh [n=Liam@202-129-82-171.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [04:25] pimp^air, What is 'the free crap version'? [04:26] gij-thingy === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.49.201] has joined #xubuntu [04:27] however at the last step of the wizard i can only select cancel === hitmanWilly [n=hitmanWi@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:27] Ah, ok. [04:27] which i read in other bugreports too [04:27] I tried some free implementations three weeks ago or so, but I wasn't really pleased with it. [04:28] For example one had no security certificate support at all. [04:28] Another had a lack of some GUI elements. [04:29] some things in ubuntu are just b0rken [04:31] i go to bed, n8 [04:33] !! [04:33] wow... [04:35] BFTD, what? [04:36] oh I found a naturally Linux compatible Media Player [04:37] BFTD, which one? [04:39] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855609003 [04:40] many are compatible [04:43] a lot of cheap ones are because all they are are usb thumb drives with a processor and firmware [04:43] all though that one looks nice [04:44] does it have sd expansion? === czer323 [n=czer323@cpe-71-66-230-94.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:53] Jester45 not that I can see [04:55] does anyone know if you can umm compond if statements? [04:55] like [04:57] if [ "foo" = "bar" ] then if [ "foo2" = "bar2" ] then run blah else run blah2 [04:57] so that if the first if is true then the 2nd will check if its true [04:58] Jester45: in bash? [04:58] see the problem is im tring to run 1 command at the end of a script but that command needs a few varables [04:58] yes [04:59] or... use if inside a command [04:59] if [ "a" == "b"] ; then if [ "c" == "b" ] ; then command; fi; fi [04:59] should work [04:59] what if i branch that off again to [05:00] if [ "a" == "b"] ; then if [ "c" == "b" ] ; then command; else if [ "d" = "e"] ; then; fi; fi; fi [05:02] Jester45, it should be fine. use it all the time in other languages... never writen a complex bash script tho [05:02] hehe [05:02] i will paste what i have of the script [05:02] no [05:02] not here [05:02] !pastebin [05:02] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [05:02] paste bin [05:02] yea i know [05:02] yep [05:02] sorry [05:02] you spend enough time here to know that [05:04] http://pastebin.ca/480152 [05:04] yea [05:04] plus chanserv whould kick me [05:04] at the first section i just ask questions about what you want the output to be [05:05] but im not sure how to get the command to be written [05:05] the part at the bottom is the base of the command with sections of it needing to be changed depending on the variables [05:06] should add HD-DVD encryption support : P [05:06] nobody i know has hd dvd [05:07] its manly for my friends [05:07] i have my own script for me for my settings [05:07] i told them to try linux and helped them set it up and things like that [05:08] now some want to do multimedia things and i told them to use mencoder but they dont understand it [05:08] so im helping [05:09] i wanted to use bash because i know lots of people have it [05:09] it probly should be the other shells also === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.49.201] has left #xubuntu [] === xjkx [n=vulto@201008254180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [05:14] how do you use lazarus on xubuntu? i installed "tct" and i got a lazarus binary, but when i run:"Can't open" wtf :o [05:18] not sure [05:19] i think thats not lazarus pascal [05:20] " lazarus tries to revive things that have died and gone into the binary spirit world... deleted files, data in memory, swap, etc." [05:20] in man lazarus [05:20] but lazarus ia a pascal graphical thing [05:20] !lazarus [05:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about lazarus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:23] !info lazarus [05:23] Package lazarus does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [05:28] whats goin on [05:35] nothin [05:36] i'm trying my first install of xubuntu tonight [05:36] thats great [05:37] i'm pretty excited [05:37] i've read alot about ubuntu but my system is so old i was recommended xubuntu [05:38] theres nothing wrong with xubuntu its better for older machines, but i like it better than ubuntu [05:38] i hope you dont have problems [05:38] haha me 2 [05:40] what did the machine have on it [05:41] it's an original Gateway Profile [05:41] AMD-K6 400mhz [05:41] 64mb RAM [05:41] 6gb hd [05:41] what OS [05:41] i think it's close to 10yrs old [05:41] it was running win98 but not well [05:42] i think you will like xubuntu, just a tip you might want to look into more ram and try to use the command line if you can [05:43] my i use amarok for a music player and it uses 50-100mb of ram but i also use mpd and it uses under 2mb [05:44] hopefully i didnt care you off [05:44] :) [05:44] na i know it needs more ram [05:44] here's a pic of what i'm workin with [05:44] you will be fine with gui also [05:44] http://www.k3.dion.ne.jp/~datnio/LOVELOG_IMG/01_AUT_8833.JPG [05:45] all the components are built into the monitor so upgrading hardware is a bitch [05:45] oo [05:45] thats kinda nice [05:45] it was fucking awesome 10 yrs ago [05:45] is it crt ? im guessing yes [05:45] but now you just gotta see what you can do it [05:45] na its lcd [05:46] about 4in deep [05:46] now thats fancy [05:46] i would wall mount it [05:46] haha [05:46] i move too much to mount stuff [05:46] a nice flat table does me just fine [05:46] i see all the boxes in the background [05:47] i wouldnt mind one of those [05:47]