[12:23] <nopcode> ok it worked
[12:24] <nopcode> but booting into the 2.2.20 kernel didnt start the X server either
[12:24] <hyper_ch> Do you have:  Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager?
[12:24] <hyper_ch> 2.6.20
[12:24] <hyper_ch> execute startx
[12:24] <nopcode> i dont have X
[12:24] <nopcode> it doenst start
[12:24] <hyper_ch> what error?
[12:24] <nopcode> can load module nvidia
[12:25] <nopcode> ah
[12:25] <nopcode> now it says it cant find the module file
[12:25] <nopcode> in /usr/lib/module
[12:25] <hyper_ch> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf
[12:25] <nopcode> doesnt work
[12:25] <nopcode> but i think i need to reinstall the nvidia module
[12:25] <hyper_ch> reconfigure your xserver... then you can boot into x and then you can install the restricted drivers
[12:25] <hyper_ch> what didn't work?
[12:26] <nopcode> that sudo line
[12:26] <hyper_ch> what error?
[12:26] <nopcode> now i'm reinstalling the nvidia modules
[12:26] <nopcode> wait
[12:26] <hyper_ch> you see, a comment "didn't work" doesn't help much
[12:26] <nopcode> i know but i'm trying to reinstall the nvidia module
[12:26] <nopcode> because it didnt exist
[12:27] <hyper_ch> why not using vesa
[12:27] <nopcode> ok now it talked about nvidia api mismatch
[12:27] <nopcode> between x-server and kernel-module
[12:27] <nopcode> when doing "startx"
[12:27] <hyper_ch> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf
[12:28] <nopcode> "xorg-conf is not installed"
[12:28] <hyper_ch> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[12:28] <nopcode> same
[12:28] <hyper_ch> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:28] <hyper_ch> damn, what was it again :)
[12:28] <nopcode> and then?
[12:28] <nopcode> it worked
[12:28] <nopcode> what now
[12:28] <nopcode> its asking me what driver to use
[12:28] <hyper_ch> go throught the menus
[12:28] <hyper_ch> is nvidia there?
[12:29] <hyper_ch> or nv?
[12:29] <hyper_ch> use nv
[12:29] <hyper_ch> or vesa
[12:29] <nopcode> WTF is it asking me!!
[12:29] <nopcode> i dont want that
[12:29] <nopcode> i can change the driver myself
[12:29] <hyper_ch> then go ahead
[12:31] <nopcode> ok X is running now
[12:31] <nopcode> what now?
[12:31] <hyper_ch>  Applicatiosn --> System --> Restricted Drivers Manager?
[12:31] <nopcode> ok i enabled it
[12:31] <nopcode> now?
[12:31] <hyper_ch> reboot
[12:31] <hyper_ch> (or restart xserver)
[12:32] <Merchelo> ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:32] <Jester45> its better to restart gdm
[12:35] <nopcode> ok re
[12:35] <nopcode> i rebooted
[12:35] <nopcode> the x server says the api version doesnt match
[12:35] <nopcode> between the X and the kernel module
[12:35] <hyper_ch> no clue
[12:35] <Jester45> ooo
[12:36] <Jester45> thats not good, what did you install
[12:36] <nopcode> i just followed the instructions :/
[12:36] <hyper_ch> he had gutsy kernel
[12:36] <hyper_ch> and followed some instructions from some wiki
[12:36] <nopcode> well it looked like semi-official
[12:36] <nopcode> well anyways
[12:36] <Atan_fx> hi, Espaol,
[12:36] <nopcode> which packages are relevant?
[12:36] <hyper_ch> !es | Atan_fx
[12:36] <nopcode> i'll try to remove and reinstall them
[12:36] <ubotu> Atan_fx: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:36] <nopcode> nvidia-glx for one, what else?
[12:37] <Atan_fx> ok thanks
[12:38] <kalikiana> !de | kalikiana
[12:38] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: #xubuntu-de
[12:40] <kalikiana> hyper_ch, I know. I just wanted to try that command because I saw it for the first time. :D
[12:40] <kalikiana> So there is no #xubuntu-es?
[12:40] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: try to enter that channel and you'll see
[12:40] <Jester45> there is
[12:40] <nopcode> re
[12:40] <nopcode> so, any ideas? :(
[12:41] <kalikiana> Someone should tell ubotu about #xubuntu-es, else it's confusing.
[12:41] <Jester45> or...not
[12:41] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: tell seveas
[12:42] <nopcode> so
[12:42] <nopcode> if i have nvidia-glx
[12:43] <nopcode> and nvidia-kernel-common
[12:43] <nopcode> shouldnt those two be compatible?
[12:47] <nopcode> i've only got voltaile/nvidia_new.o
[12:47] <nopcode> as kernel module
[01:08] <nopcode> hyper_ch: i got it to work with "envy"
[01:47] <friarjac1> I'm a newbie trying to install Xubuntu, and I need help.
[01:50] <cliebow>  ?
[01:53] <friarjac1> install appears to be hung up installing "anthy" at 65%.  I read in the forums that "anthy" is not necessary.  And gave a way to switch to the console, enter the "ps" command, use the process id that ps give & kill it.  I did all that, but I do not see a process id.  The text is longer than my screen length, so I miss the top  part.  Is it up there, or do I just not know what I'm looking for and it's right in front of me?
[01:56] <W8TAH> hi folks -- i need a suggestion -- ive been playing with kino and pitivi for video editing -- i can capture easilly with kino, but i need to find a good editor - -specifically, i need to add text and graphics to the video, as well as put in transitions - any suggestions?
[02:19] <|Slurpee|> anyone still here from my odd issue earlier ?
[02:20] <|Slurpee|> the alternate cd got me further into the installation
[02:21] <|Slurpee|> now I am getting odd errors while installing the base system
[02:21] <|Slurpee|> saying it cant find specific files
[02:28] <|Slurpee|> i am an idiot
[02:28] <|Slurpee|> stupid http request did not download entire file.
[03:09] <Ry-Fi> why are all the new distros made so you *have* to load the live cd first before u can install
[03:14] <crimsun> well, you can use the alternate installer image.  It's text-based and just an installer.
[03:14] <Ry-Fi> bleh, so i have to reburn another iso
[03:14] <Ry-Fi> i think im running out of disks
[03:14] <BFTD> I can send you some
[03:14] <Ry-Fi> well the system only as 128mb of ram, kubuntu should run on that right?
[03:14] <crimsun> Well, if your machine(s) is(are) capable of netboot/PXE, then do that...
[03:14] <Ry-Fi> *after* its installed
[03:15] <crimsun> Kubuntu will be tight on 128 MB.  Even Xubuntu will be.  Try Damn Small Linux or something.
[03:15] <Ry-Fi> haha this computer doesnt even have an ethernet port
[03:15] <Ry-Fi> hrm
[03:15] <Ry-Fi> ive never done a network install before
[03:15] <Ry-Fi> is it done easily? i can install a PCI nic really quick
[03:15] <BFTD> they're intense
[03:16] <Ry-Fi> crowe O_o
[03:16] <Ry-Fi> hahahah
[03:16] <BFTD> what?
[03:16] <Ry-Fi> thats random why arnt u in #cnerdc
[03:16] <BFTD> I was caught
[03:16] <Ry-Fi> oh u still banned>
[03:16] <BFTD> they found the "photo shopped" pci
[03:17] <BFTD> pic*
[03:17] <Ry-Fi> of Ash>
[03:17] <Ry-Fi> ?**
[03:17] <BFTD> of me
[03:17] <Ry-Fi> which picture is this?
[03:18] <BFTD> the one you didn't see
[03:21] <Ry-Fi> ok so how does a network install go?
[03:21] <Ry-Fi> cause i did just delete the iso
[03:21] <BFTD> get the alt cd
[03:21] <BFTD> use that
[03:22] <Ry-Fi> rgr
[03:22] <Ry-Fi> downloading
[03:23] <Ry-Fi> see
[03:23] <Ry-Fi> the ironic part is
[03:23] <Ry-Fi> windows installed just fine
[03:23] <Ry-Fi> but linux?
[03:23] <Ry-Fi> NO
[03:23] <Ry-Fi> such a pain in the assssssss
[03:26] <BFTD> wow, people don't like you already
[03:26] <Ry-Fi> all im saying is windows made it a lot more convienient
[03:29] <BFTD> windows was you child
[03:33] <odat> hi everyone anyone know why gnomebaker would have trouble reading track data when burning
[03:35] <Ry-Fi> odat have u tried installing windows>
[03:35] <Ry-Fi> ?*
[03:35] <Ry-Fi> jk
[03:43] <nekomancer> hello room!
[03:44] <nekomancer> i am currently installing 7.04 on a old p3 computer
[03:44] <nekomancer> and was wondering if there was a file system that would be bettersuited, speed wise, for this pc
[03:47] <cliebow> sounds like you are cramped for memory and cpu..not much you can do tot improvr
[03:47] <nekomancer> yes.  256 mb Ram, (+64 mb video card ram) and 700mhz processor
[03:48] <nekomancer> so it's more cramped for cpu than ram i guess
[03:49] <nekomancer> it's just a pc for a music player and little sister surfing the net/word processing, so it should be fine.  but any tiny improvement would be nice
[03:52] <Jester45> i use use ext3 its simpler and you will not gain that much performance over others for what it might be doing
[03:53] <nekomancer> that tis what i figured would be said.
[03:53] <nekomancer> but nothing lost in the asking
[03:53] <nekomancer> Jester45, you're in here a lot
[03:53] <Jester45> nekomancer: you might want to make 2 partitions, 1 at / for system files and 1 at /home for user stuff. its a lot safer if the system messes up then your sis will not loose her stuff
[03:53] <Jester45> yea i am
[03:54] <Jester45> nekomancer: the / should be fine at 10g or less. how big is the drive?
[03:54] <nekomancer> Jester45, i'm well aware of that, but thanks!  one for music files, one for home, one for the rest of the stuff
[03:54] <nekomancer> 19 gigs
[03:54] <pimp^air> hi
[03:54] <pimp^air> i'm looking for something like ms acces for gnome which is not openoffice
[03:55] <Jester45> nekomancer: i would do under 500mb swap but thats just me
[03:55] <pimp^air> but don't know what to google for?
[03:55] <nekomancer> 6 music 8 root 7 home
[03:55] <pimp^air> is there something like a gnome database-application?
[03:55] <pimp^air> oder some gtk-based app
[03:55] <pimp^air> :)
[03:55] <nekomancer> swap is set at 300 megs
[03:55] <Jester45> pimp^air: try php maybe, or google for linux spreedsheet datavase
[03:56] <pimp^air> php:)
[03:56] <Jester45> nekomancer: ok, if you want you can make the / partition a reisner fs, i think its faster but i dont know the stats on it
[03:56] <pimp^air> all i need it for is some customer invoice stuff of the most simple kind
[03:57] <nekomancer> Jester45, riser is only faster on a fast cpu
[03:57] <Jester45> pimp^air: search google for a linux database program
[03:58] <pimp^air> most things listed there are databases containing linux programm
[03:58] <nekomancer> Jester45, and only if you are using small files.  it's good for mp3 playback, mail servers, and the like.  it's cpu intecive
[03:58] <pimp^air> s
[03:58] <pimp^air> :)
[03:58] <pimp^air> and lots of oracle related stuff
[03:58] <Jester45> nekomancer: ok, i didnt quite know its faster for me, there is somthing like xfs wich is good but i dont know the name
[03:58] <nekomancer> pimp^air, why don't you like the open office stuff?
[03:59] <pimp^air> because it doesn't work on my fresh xubuntu install
[03:59] <Jester45> nekomancer: yea, the system part "/" is mostly small files if the bigger files are on a 2nd partition
[03:59] <nekomancer> Jester45, it's called XFS.  i did my googling and decided to check here prior to installing
[03:59] <pimp^air> i tried it out, the forms assistant for example doesnt work
[03:59] <pimp^air> i tried java5 and java6
[03:59] <pimp^air> no luck
[03:59] <nekomancer> Jester45, riser also takes long to mount
[04:00] <Jester45> nekomancer: well you know about as much as me...but you can remember the name
[04:00] <nekomancer> pimp^air, how did you install open office?
[04:00] <Jester45> well... i will be right back my fluxbox is done complieing
[04:00] <pimp^air> aptitude install openoffice.org
[04:01] <pimp^air> y?
[04:01] <nekomancer> did you run as root?
[04:01] <nekomancer> with sudo
[04:01] <nekomancer> and did you update first also?  (sudo aptitude update)
[04:02] <pimp^air> of course
[04:02] <pimp^air> still the wizard won't open
[04:03] <nekomancer> pimp^air, it works on my computer...  i'd try reinstalling it...
[04:03] <pimp^air> openoffice.org?
[04:03] <pimp^air> k, i'll do that
[04:03] <nekomancer> sudo aptitdue purge openoffice.org
[04:03] <nekomancer> you know the drill :P
[04:03] <Jester45> if you want i would apt-get clean to remove the downloaded debs
[04:03] <nekomancer> yes, that could help
[04:03] <Jester45> before reinstalled or your installed in same thing
[04:04] <pimp^air> openoffice.org is a meta-package
[04:04] <pimp^air> so it removed 0 bytes
[04:04] <pimp^air> :)
[04:04] <nekomancer> although unlikely, you may have gotten a bad or corrupted download
[04:04] <pimp^air> maybe i installed it using apt-get
[04:04] <Jester45> yea, but meta packages have other packages linked to them so when iyou isntalled that meta package it installed others
[04:04] <nekomancer> yes
[04:05] <nekomancer> but removing it may not have worked in that fashon
[04:05] <pimp^air> yes, it depends on them, but they don't depend on it
[04:05] <Jester45> pimp^air: did you apt-get clean openoffice.org? or just 'apt-get clean'
[04:05] <nekomancer> i don't know the pieces to open office, sorry
[04:05] <nekomancer> it's just apt-get clean
[04:05] <nekomancer> clears the entire cache
[04:05] <Jester45> i wasnt sure if you could add a package name to clean,
[04:06] <Jester45> ok... brb again i tihnk it should work now
[04:06] <pimp^air> no, did clean
[04:07] <pimp^air> nekomancer: which version of java are you using?
[04:07] <nekomancer> good question
[04:07] <pimp^air> hjehe
[04:08] <nekomancer> how can i find out? java -v tossed an unreconsied option at me
[04:08] <nekomancer> java makes me unhappy... long live python
[04:08] <Jester45> java is fun
[04:09] <nekomancer> Jester45, have you even tried python?
[04:09] <pimp^air> java -version
[04:09] <Jester45> yea
[04:09] <nekomancer> java version "1.6.0"
[04:09] <nekomancer> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[04:09] <nekomancer> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing)
[04:10] <nekomancer> Jester45, and you still find java fun?!  i fail to understand... it's slower, harder to read/write, and dosen't run as smoothly
[04:11] <Jester45> i dont like most python apps
[04:11] <pimp^air> python ftw
[04:11] <pimp^air> :)
[04:11] <nekomancer> Jester45, so you are simply a user.
[04:11] <Jester45> yea
[04:12] <nekomancer> Jester45, the reason for that seems to be advertising...   many people think java is some sort of standard or something...
[04:12] <pimp^air> ok, doing a reinstall of openoffice
[04:13] <pimp^air> after purging everything beginning with openoffive
[04:13] <pimp^air> in its name
[04:13] <nekomancer> Jester45, but you should know things like the beloved YouTube are writen in python
[04:13] <Jester45> idk what is standard
[04:13] <Jester45> i hate youtube
[04:13] <pimp^air> 90MB download
[04:13] <nekomancer> Jester45, and python is what was the suggest language for Ubuntu entries into the Summer Of Code
[04:13] <pimp^air> yeah.... but if queen mum gets raped you can be sure it'll be posted to youtube in no time
[04:13] <Jester45> videos are crappy
[04:14] <pimp^air> and yes, i know she's dead
[04:14] <pimp^air> :)
[04:14] <pimp^air> why isnt there python flash?
[04:14] <pimp^air> phlash
[04:14] <pimp^air> :)
[04:15] <nekomancer> good one pimp^air.
[04:16] <Jester45> i like bash over html :) but thats not hard
[04:17] <pimp^air> i wrote couple of htmls using bash and echo
[04:17] <pimp^air> .)
[04:17] <pimp^air> cgi ftw
[04:17] <pimp^air> no look after a reinstall
[04:17] <nekomancer> html isn't a language.  Well, real language... it simply displays stuff, Jester45
[04:17] <Jester45> my flux doesnt wanna work
[04:17] <Jester45> i dont care
[04:17] <nekomancer> building from source sometimes does that
[04:17] <Jester45> i didnt say anything about a language
[04:18] <nekomancer> if you want to do everything from source, then i suggest gentoo...
[04:18] <kalikiana> nekomancer, I tried the tutorial on ruby's website. I find it unfamiliar but maybe not bad. I didn't look at it further so far.
[04:18] <nekomancer> or sabayon
[04:18] <Jester45> no
[04:18] <Jester45> sabayon is pretty cool
[04:18] <Jester45> only good ting from gentoo, besides the gentoo wiki
[04:19] <Jester45> i wish i could of got my dual heads working
[04:19] <Jester45> then i would have a dedicated irssi screen
[04:20] <nekomancer> kalikiana, i agree that it feels too unfamiliar... esp for something they tote as 'natural''.  but many people swear by it, and it has a similar reputation to python so i was wondering
[04:20] <Jester45> i got bored one day with a dremal and carved a keyboard holder in my desk
[04:20] <pimp^air> see... openoffice just doesn't work
[04:20] <pimp^air> do you have openoffice.org-gcj installed?
[04:21] <Jester45> so the board is level with desk, and well the F buttons made it to big so i removed them also
[04:21] <Jester45> brb last time
[04:21] <nekomancer> sorry, pimp^air, i just installed it with aptitude along with quite a few other things.  i'm using 6.10 tho, thinking about it.  That may be the differance
[04:21] <pimp^air> well, might be
[04:22] <nekomancer> i doubt they would have allowed oo to become broken tho
[04:22] <nekomancer> that would be sad
[04:24] <kalikiana> nekomancer, The 'rails' is pretty popular with some webdesigners indeed. I am happy with python, c and php for everything I need currently, speaking of coding. I suppose future will show if ruby can compete with python.
[04:25] <kalikiana> I'm especially not sure yet if ruby is good for non-web projects.
[04:25] <pimp^air> wow
[04:25] <pimp^air> installing the free crap version of java did the trink
[04:25] <pimp^air> trick
[04:25] <kalikiana> pimp^air, What is 'the free crap version'?
[04:26] <pimp^air> gij-thingy
[04:27] <pimp^air> however at the last step of the wizard i can only select cancel
[04:27] <kalikiana> Ah, ok.
[04:27] <pimp^air> which i read in other bugreports too
[04:27] <kalikiana> I tried some free implementations three weeks ago or so, but I wasn't really pleased with it.
[04:28] <kalikiana> For example one had no security certificate support at all.
[04:28] <kalikiana> Another had a lack of some GUI elements.
[04:29] <pimp^air> some things in ubuntu are just b0rken
[04:31] <pimp^air> i go to bed, n8
[04:33] <BFTD> !!
[04:33] <BFTD> wow...
[04:35] <nekomancer> BFTD, what?
[04:36] <BFTD> oh I found a naturally Linux compatible Media Player
[04:37] <nekomancer> BFTD, which one?
[04:39] <BFTD> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855609003
[04:40] <Jester45> many are compatible
[04:43] <Jester45> a lot of cheap ones are because all they are are usb thumb drives with a processor and firmware
[04:43] <Jester45> all though that one looks nice
[04:44] <Jester45> does it have sd expansion?
[04:53] <BFTD> Jester45 not that I can see
[04:55] <Jester45> does anyone know if you can umm compond if statements?
[04:55] <Jester45> like
[04:57] <Jester45> if [ "foo" = "bar" ]  then if [ "foo2" = "bar2" ]  then run blah else run blah2
[04:57] <Jester45> so that if the first if is true then the 2nd will check if its true
[04:58] <squirrelpimp> Jester45: in bash?
[04:58] <Jester45> see the problem is im tring to run 1 command at the end of a script but that command needs a few varables
[04:58] <Jester45> yes
[04:59] <Jester45> or... use if inside a command
[04:59] <squirrelpimp> if [ "a" == "b"] ; then if [ "c" == "b" ] ; then command; fi; fi
[04:59] <squirrelpimp> should work
[04:59] <Jester45> what if i branch that off again to
[05:00] <Jester45> if [ "a" == "b"] ; then if [ "c" == "b" ] ; then command; else if [ "d" = "e"] ; then; fi; fi; fi
[05:02] <nekomancer> Jester45, it should be fine.  use it all the time in other languages... never writen a complex bash script tho
[05:02] <Jester45> hehe
[05:02] <Jester45> i will paste what i have of the script
[05:02] <nekomancer> no
[05:02] <Jester45> not here
[05:02] <nekomancer> !pastebin
[05:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <Jester45> paste bin
[05:02] <Jester45> yea i know
[05:02] <nekomancer> yep
[05:02] <nekomancer> sorry
[05:02] <nekomancer> you spend enough time here to know that
[05:04] <Jester45> http://pastebin.ca/480152
[05:04] <Jester45> yea
[05:04] <Jester45> plus chanserv whould kick me
[05:04] <Jester45> at the first section i just ask questions about what you want the output to be
[05:05] <Jester45> but im not sure how to get the command to be written
[05:05] <Jester45> the part at the bottom is the base of the command with sections of it needing to be changed depending on the variables
[05:06] <nekomancer> should add HD-DVD encryption support : P
[05:06] <Jester45> nobody i know has hd dvd
[05:07] <Jester45> its manly for my friends
[05:07] <Jester45> i have my own script for me for my settings
[05:07] <Jester45> i told them to try linux and helped them set it up and things like that
[05:08] <Jester45> now some want to do multimedia things and i told them to use mencoder but they dont understand it
[05:08] <Jester45> so im helping
[05:09] <Jester45> i wanted to use bash because i know lots of people have it
[05:09] <Jester45> it probly should be the other shells also
[05:14] <xjkx> how do you use lazarus on xubuntu? i installed "tct" and i got a lazarus binary, but when i run:"Can't open" wtf :o
[05:18] <Jester45> not sure
[05:19] <xjkx> i think thats not lazarus pascal
[05:20] <xjkx> " lazarus tries to revive things that have died and gone into the binary spirit world... deleted files, data in memory, swap, etc."
[05:20] <xjkx> in man lazarus
[05:20] <xjkx> but lazarus ia a pascal graphical thing
[05:20] <Jester45> !lazarus
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lazarus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <kalikiana> !info lazarus
[05:23] <ubotu> Package lazarus does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:28] <maxbeatt> whats goin on
[05:35] <Jester45> nothin
[05:36] <maxbeatt> i'm trying my first install of xubuntu tonight
[05:36] <Jester45> thats great
[05:37] <maxbeatt> i'm pretty excited
[05:37] <maxbeatt> i've read alot about ubuntu but my system is so old i was recommended xubuntu
[05:38] <Jester45> theres nothing wrong with xubuntu its better for older machines, but i like it better than ubuntu
[05:38] <Jester45> i hope you dont have problems
[05:38] <maxbeatt> haha me 2
[05:40] <Jester45> what did the machine have on it
[05:41] <maxbeatt> it's an original Gateway Profile
[05:41] <maxbeatt> AMD-K6 400mhz
[05:41] <maxbeatt> 64mb RAM
[05:41] <maxbeatt> 6gb hd
[05:41] <Jester45> what OS
[05:41] <maxbeatt> i think it's close to 10yrs old
[05:41] <maxbeatt> it was running win98 but not well
[05:42] <Jester45> i think you will like xubuntu, just a tip you might want to look into more ram and try to use the command line if you can
[05:43] <Jester45> my i use amarok for a music player and it uses 50-100mb of ram but i also use mpd and it uses under 2mb
[05:44] <Jester45> hopefully i didnt care you off
[05:44] <Jester45> :)
[05:44] <maxbeatt> na i know it needs more ram
[05:44] <maxbeatt> here's a pic of what i'm workin with
[05:44] <Jester45> you will be fine with gui also
[05:44] <maxbeatt> http://www.k3.dion.ne.jp/~datnio/LOVELOG_IMG/01_AUT_8833.JPG
[05:45] <maxbeatt> all the components are built into the monitor so upgrading hardware is a bitch
[05:45] <Jester45> oo
[05:45] <Jester45> thats kinda nice
[05:45] <maxbeatt> it was fucking awesome 10 yrs ago
[05:45] <Jester45> is it crt ? im guessing yes
[05:45] <maxbeatt> but now you just gotta see what you can do it
[05:45] <maxbeatt> na its lcd
[05:46] <maxbeatt> about 4in deep
[05:46] <Jester45> now thats fancy
[05:46] <Jester45> i would wall mount it
[05:46] <maxbeatt> haha
[05:46] <maxbeatt> i move too much to mount stuff
[05:46] <maxbeatt> a nice flat table does me just fine
[05:46] <Jester45> i see all the boxes in the background
[05:47] <Jester45> i wouldnt mind one of those
[05:47] <Jester45> mount it in a car
[05:47] <maxbeatt> i saw a diy for building a computer into your car
[05:48] <maxbeatt> touch screen, 100gb hd for mp3s, wifi
[05:48] <maxbeatt> didn't read it too close because i was afraid i'd want it too bad
[05:48] <Jester45> theres a linuxdistro for that
[05:48] <Jester45> :)
[05:49] <maxbeatt> there's a tshirt waiting to print
[05:49] <Jester45> i like the 1 point printer
[05:50] <Jester45> just mount a ball point pen and go, then wait a few hours for it to finish a page
[05:50] <Jester45> but... my art class would be much easier
[05:50] <Jester45> copy-paste-print
[05:52] <Jester45> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/02/car_whisperer/
[05:52] <maxbeatt> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822709009
[05:53] <Jester45> aaaa a paste war it is
[05:53] <maxbeatt> haha just wait til i find this other bluetooth hack
[05:53] <maxbeatt> video!
[05:53] <Jester45> you know they have 1tb internal drives...
[05:54] <maxbeatt> yea but they dont fit in my macbook ;)
[05:54] <Jester45> add on external usb inclosure + usb wifi
[05:54] <maxbeatt> with that i can swap out all the hdds i can find
[05:54] <maxbeatt> i thought about just getting the enclosure but you get those 250gb hds for like $69 which i thought was a good price
[05:55] <maxbeatt> "bluejacking" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dltjEnrePxc&eurl=
[05:55] <Jester45> i would get a external usb inclosure.. remove the case and you can swap the drives
[05:56] <maxbeatt> one at a time
[05:56] <maxbeatt> i have that
[05:56] <maxbeatt> but 4 swaps is better than 1
[05:57] <Jester45> i did the reverse on my dvd drive
[05:57] <Jester45> riped the pastic off and bam
[05:57] <Jester45> faster drive + its about 2 inches shorter
[05:58] <Jester45> only usb
[05:58] <Jester45> i woudl get a ethernet one
[05:58] <maxbeatt> ethernet external drive?
[05:58] <Jester45> yea
[05:59] <maxbeatt> nice never heard of those
[05:59] <Jester45> i found one with ether usb and wireless
[05:59] <Jester45> wonder if it could use all 3 at once
[06:01] <Jester45> http://www.nextag.com/ethernet-external-hard-drive/search-html
[06:01] <Jester45> bunches
[06:01] <Jester45> the top one is pretty cheap
[06:02] <maxbeatt> yea i noticed
[06:03] <Jester45> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=444004
[06:03] <Jester45> hehe its pretty much a computer
[06:03] <Jester45> if its not allready
[06:04] <maxbeatt> 11k? its pretty much a car
[06:05] <Jester45> yea its a computer
[06:05] <Jester45> they dont count
[06:05] <Jester45> 50 lbs
[06:06] <maxbeatt> lol
[06:07] <maxbeatt> hmm i wonder if i can share my macbook's wireless connection thru the ethernet to my gateway's ethernet...
[06:08] <Jester45> xp could.. but the macbook would be able to use the internet
[06:08] <Jester45> its so stupid
[06:08] <Jester45> wouldnt*
[06:08] <maxbeatt> wouldn't?
[06:08] <maxbeatt> hmm that doesn't seem right
[06:08] <Jester45> i did it at my friends
[06:08] <pRrp> recompiling my kernel in xubuntu would free up ram wouldnt it?
[06:09] <Jester45> we had a LAN of a few computer but not all the people had wfi so he sacrificed one of his machines to act like a gateware
[06:10] <Jester45> pRrp: if you compile it with less things than the common kernal
[06:10] <pRrp> yeah.. which is very possible.. i mean xubuntu doesnt compile one during installation does it? doesnt it just use a kernel with basically support for all hardware?
[06:10] <Jester45> pRrp: you might want to try a kernal for your system pre built by ubuntu devs
[06:11] <Jester45> yes, you can apt-get a new kernal thats for your processor
[06:11] <Jester45> if you want to optimize more then you can compile one
[06:11] <maxbeatt> apt-get, eh?
[06:11] <pRrp> how do i do that?  for some reason this is like the easiest distro i've ever installed.. but im not used to it..
[06:11] <Jester45> or any other package manager
[06:11] <pRrp> i compiled kernels in slack and gentoo alot.. no problem
[06:12] <Jester45> maxbeatt: its how you install things apt-get install <packagename>
[06:12] <pRrp> for some reason im afraid of it here.. it's debian style but i havent used debian since like the 90's
[06:12] <Jester45> !kernel
[06:12] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:13] <Jester45> see 2nd link
[06:13] <pRrp> cool. thanks.. i'll check it out..
[06:13] <Jester45> no problem
[06:13] <pRrp> modules are generally loaded into ram huh?
[06:13] <Jester45> i dont know
[06:18] <kalikiana> pRrp, How come you're trying xubuntu after slack and gentoo?
[06:18] <Jester45> well night all
[06:18] <pRrp> kalikiana: cuase all i have now is a 550Mhz w/128mb ram
[06:18] <Jester45> i have to wake up in 4 hours :(
[06:18] <pRrp> and i heard it was quick and easy.. which is true.
[06:19] <pRrp> oh it's a laptop too.. with 6gb hd..
[06:19] <kalikiana> pRrp, Yep, if you can live with "unoptimized" binaries it's extremely lazy :P
[06:20] <pRrp> yeah, hell it's better than nothin.. i dont think i could do gentoo on here.. too much compile time and space needed for building shit
[06:20] <Jester45> maybe someone should make a third party repo of optimized packages
[06:21] <pRrp> kalikiana: exactly.. gentoo took me like 20 hours to get setup decent on my old 1.8GHz laptop with 512MB ram.. i cant imagine it on this thing..
[06:21] <maxbeatt> 20hrs?
[06:21] <Jester45> night for real this time
[06:21] <maxbeatt> gnite
[06:21] <pRrp> maxbeatt: compiling everything
[06:21] <maxbeatt> ah
[06:21] <pRrp> gnite jester45
[07:15] <kalikiana> Anyone here using ccache?
[07:37] <deniz_ogu1> Hi dear friendb. xubuntu 7.04 Feisty. My login screen is not viewed as it should be. Blurred and colours are weird. As if there's a resolution problem. My desktop user to look similar before I set it to 1024x768. Now desktop is ok with 1024x768. Depehring on this, I deleted all values more than it, namely 1280x1024 for each colour depth. But login screen is still the same. What can I do?
[07:38] <deniz_ogu1> *user to be= used to be
[07:38] <deniz_ogu1> *depehring: depending
[07:54] <deniz_ogu1> !login
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about login - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <deniz_ogu1> !login screen
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about login screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <Myrtti> !gdm
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <kalikiana> !info gdm | Myrtti
[08:23] <ubotu> myrtti: gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1771 kB, installed size 13480 kB
[08:23] <Myrtti> kalikiana: thanks. I was trying to give the info to deniz_ogul
[08:23] <kalikiana> :)
[01:07] <billy_> hi.  what's the name of the xubuntu window manager?
[01:07] <Gerro> sup jester
[01:07] <Gerro> xfce is its name
[01:07] <Gerro> hence when you open process manager everything says xfce
[01:08] <aboyousif> billy_, x stands for xfce ..
[01:08] <billy_> i'm attempting to restore the window decorations after a failed compiz experiment.
[01:08] <billy_> in gnome, I just go metacity --replace.  Similar for xfce?
[01:08] <billy_> xfce --replace doesn't help, though.
[01:09] <billy_>  xfce
[01:12] <Gerro> no clue about that billy
[01:40] <kanpachi> hello, i can't print anything from mousepad, though i can print from firefox, can anyone help please?
[04:29] <TheSheep> boje: do you think you could disable this script when you are here?
[04:36] <asmith42a> Is there an app similar to Spiceworks? http://www.spiceworks.com
[04:36] <asmith42a> Mostly I want to inventory.
[04:38] <TheSheep> Spiceworks IT Desktop is the only application that combines Network Inventory, Help Desk, Reporting, Monitoring and Troubleshooting in a single, easy-to-use interface designed for IT teams in small and medium businesses.
[04:38] <TheSheep> they wouldn't lie, would they? ;)
[04:38] <asmith42a> lol
[04:39] <asmith42a> Marketing has their own halo budget.
[04:39] <TheSheep> asmith42a: there are actually lots of snmp tools, but most of them are blocks to build your own custom solutions
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> There is definately something available for Solaris that is like that (Probably commercial though)
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> (I have seen someone running one using Sunray's)
[04:39] <asmith42a> Ah. Thank you.
[04:39] <TheSheep> asmith42a: we use nagios for monitoring, but it's not exactly like that
[04:40] <asmith42a> My main goal is to get device information without having to leave my seat.
[04:40] <asmith42a> And I want to it to export into a simple form.
[04:41] <TheSheep> asmith42a: you can do it with a simple snmp query, although nagios has this automated I think
[04:41] <asmith42a> OK. I'll look into that. Thank you.
[04:42] <makki> hi guys
[04:45] <asmith42a> TheSheep: Nagios is a client. Not quite what I'm after, but thanks.
[04:46] <asmith42a> Anyway, on a similar note, Is there such a thing as a Linux update server that pushes updates onto clients?
[04:47] <TheSheep> asmith42a: you can set up an own deb repositiory and use the normal ubuntu update tools with it
[04:48] <asmith42a> Ah, of course. Thank you.
[04:48] <TheSheep> asmith42a: you can add something to rc.local to make th clinets pull the updates on startup
[04:48] <asmith42a> Awesome.
[04:57] <h3sp4wn> asmith42a: You can pin it to a higher priority than normal (if necessary)
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> (i.e a priority of 1001 would always install your version - giving you time to fix your package in the event of a security update)
[05:24] <W8TAH> someone in another room told me to check into desktop effects (which he said was compiz) but im having a hard time finding it -- can someone point me in the right direction?
[05:26] <TheSheep> !compiz
[05:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:26] <W8TAH> excellent
[05:26] <W8TAH> :)
[06:34] <lysergide> Hi , i have weird problem ... so ,
[06:34] <lysergide> Hi , i have weird problem ... so , when i start Deluge or Azureus it loading and then just diying
[06:35] <lysergide> Even doesnt appear at process manager
[06:36] <lysergide> any ideas how i can fix this ?
[06:37] <aboyousif> lysergide, try to start them from terminal and see the error
[06:38] <lysergide> k
[06:39] <lysergide> aboyousif its a bit long error , shoud i paste @ private ?
[06:39] <aboyousif> lysergide, use pastebin.ca
[06:41] <lysergide> http://pastebin.ca/481088
[06:42] <aboyousif> lysergide, do you have python and gtk installed ?
[06:42] <lysergide> aboyousif got python
[06:42] <lysergide> aboyousif gtk not sure
[06:43] <lysergide> aboyousif but deluge was workin fine
[06:43] <aboyousif> lysergide, you should check deluge site to see if you have the requirements
[06:43] <lysergide> aboyousif im starting the pc today , tryin to run deluge and nothing happeninh
[06:43] <lysergide> aboyousif well i have dled till now like 50G with deluge :X
[06:44] <aboyousif> lysergide, you upgraded any thing .. from edgy to feisty ? from python 2.4 to 2.5 ?
[06:45] <lysergide> aboyousif nothing
[06:45] <lysergide> aboyousif yday i shuted down my pc with workin delufe 2day i turn it on , tryin to start deluge and like it loading and then just dyinhg
[06:45] <lysergide> lot misstypes :D
[06:46] <aboyousif> lysergide, i'm not english .. so don't write like this again :D
[06:47] <lysergide> aboyousif sry :X
[06:47] <aboyousif> lysergide, no problem .. i was just kidding with you
[06:47] <lysergide> :D
[06:47] <aboyousif> lysergide, do you have feisty ?
[06:48] <lysergide> aboyousif yep
[06:48] <aboyousif> lysergide, then try to get the new deb file and reinstall it
[06:48] <aboyousif> lysergide, http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubuntu/feisty/
[06:50] <lysergide> aboyousif k tnx ill try
[06:51] <aboyousif> lysergide, sorry but it seems deluge problem and i don't use it just try reinstalling it and ask in their forum if it is a bug or somewhat ..
[06:51] <lysergide> aboyousif y ill do it later because gf is callin' me atm , tnx for help anyway
[07:17] <He3eK> Hi PPL!
[07:21] <He3eK> Guys I am  a noob in Linux... I need to connect to a WPA network on my xubuntu...
[07:22] <He3eK> how do I enable it? please...
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> have a look at /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> (just README.modes on dapper)
[07:25] <aboyousif> !wpa
[07:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:27] <He3eK> Thanks! that's something!!
[07:29] <h3sp4wn> I would avoid network manager if it all possible
[07:30] <He3eK> How do I do it without then? ...as I said I am a noob, need to start somwhere...
[07:30] <h3sp4wn> zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[07:30] <h3sp4wn> tells you the syntax for /etc/network/interfaces
[07:30] <h3sp4wn> any questions about the doc ask me
[07:31] <He3eK> ok! thanks!!!
[07:31] <He3eK> going to read now...
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> is the wireless card already detected ?
[07:32] <He3eK> Yep
[07:32] <He3eK> I did connect with it at work, but at home I have WPA protected router & that's an issue...
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> know what chipset its using ?
[07:32] <He3eK> Aheros
[07:33] <He3eK> Atheros...
[07:33] <h3sp4wn> what release of xubuntu ?
[07:33] <He3eK> 7.*** downloaded today the latest...
[07:52] <IraqiGeek> hi all
[07:53] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, hi
[07:53] <IraqiGeek> im trying to install xubuntu 7.04 on an acer c104 tablet pc
[07:53] <Abd> HI Iraqiii geek
[07:53] <aboyousif> !tablet
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <IraqiGeek> hi abo yousif and abd
[07:53] <IraqiGeek> ubotu, its just a normal notebook
[07:54] <IraqiGeek> however the cdrom is externa, through firewire
[07:54] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, ubotu is bot
[07:54] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, i think c104 is the same as c 100 right ?
[07:54] <IraqiGeek> yyyyyyep
[07:54] <IraqiGeek> it boots the setup alright, but cant detect the drive
[07:55] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, try normal cdrom on usb and set it to master
[07:55] <IraqiGeek> the drive is connected through firewire
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> !boot floppy
[07:55] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:55] <godless> hi
[07:55] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, i have c100 and i use it like that .. i don't have tablet cd or floppy drive
[07:56] <godless> I'm looking for a good eyedropper util? something to sit in my system tray and copy colour codes off the screen to the clipboard when I'd like?
[07:56] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, or if you have another pc connected you can set it as http server
[07:56] <IraqiGeek> hmm, ill try usb first
[07:56] <aboyousif> godless, there was a good gnome colorpicker made in python i used it with xfce too
[07:57] <aboyousif> godless, but you need to add a gnome tablet first
[07:57] <aboyousif> godless, sorry s/tablet/applet :)
[07:57] <godless> aboyousif:  what's it called?
[07:58] <godless> Does bluefish have one built in?
[07:58] <godless> seems it should but I can't find it
[07:59] <aboyousif> godless, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358859
[07:59] <godless> thanks.
[07:59] <aboyousif> godless, you are welcome
[08:00] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, my only proplem with c100 is the battery .. my batt. is %3 only capacity so i put it always on charger .. and i don't have wireless adapter too i don't know what is the suitable minipci card to it
[08:00] <IraqiGeek> the battery on mine is almost dead too
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> Wistron CM9's are very good wireless mini pci cards
[08:00] <IraqiGeek> as for wifi, any minipci should work
[08:01] <IraqiGeek> mine has some old fart 802.11b card
[08:01] <W8TAH> anyone here running beryl? -- im having some issues and need some help
[08:02] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, not any .. i asked for acer support and they said only the model came with it works .. i tried some minipcis in market and none worked
[08:02] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, i think it is intel 802.11b
[08:02] <IraqiGeek> yeah yeah yeah, u know how those manufacturers like to make things sound complicated
[08:02] <godless> W8TAH:  I'm running beryl on one box but I'm no expert... try #beryl...
[08:03] <godless> W8TAH:  Although I will help if I can :)
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> You can usually get round any silly vendor limitations like that
[08:03] <IraqiGeek> i've taken mine apart more times than i care to count, and its just a normal mini-pci card
[08:03] <W8TAH> godless -- ok - -well -- im running feisty and xfce --- ive gotten xgl installed
[08:03] <W8TAH> and started
[08:03] <IraqiGeek> aboyousif, no its not an intel, i dont recall wat it is, and im not in windows so cant check
[08:04] <godless> W8TAH:  First, what is your video card?
[08:04] <W8TAH> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[08:04] <W8TAH> direct from lspci
[08:04] <godless> similar to mine. (radeon 9600 pro)
[08:04] <W8TAH> ok
[08:04] <godless> What driver are you using?
[08:05] <W8TAH> xgl
[08:05] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, i think you can check it after you install linux ..
[08:05] <IraqiGeek> i recall there were plenty of places online that stated it
[08:07] <godless> W8TAH:  Did you follow the guide @ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28ATI.29
[08:07] <godless> ?
[08:07] <godless> You should be able to use aiglx
[08:08] <godless> I had to set some things differently than that howto says, but.
[08:08] <W8TAH> humm -- i thought i did
[08:08] <W8TAH> lemme go back and go over it again
[08:08] <godless> OK, I'm getting ahead of myself.. what exactly is the problem? :)
[08:09] <W8TAH> lots of proc use, and lots of errors in xsessions-errors
[08:10] <h3sp4wn> I would avoid Xgl if you possibly can
[08:11] <W8TAH> ok
[08:11] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, you still in iraq ?
[08:11] <IraqiGeek> aboyousef, nope
[08:11] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, from where in iraq ?
[08:12] <IraqiGeek> baghdad
[08:12] <godless> W8TAH:  Add these to your xorg.conf under Section "Device": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20219/
[08:12] <godless> (with thanks to h3sp4wn)
[08:12] <IraqiGeek> how do i tell the xubuntu installer to install over ftp?
[08:12] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, a7san nass :)
[08:12] <godless> I haven't tweeked it fully but it works for me and should work for you
[08:12] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, you need to get the alternate cd i think
[08:13] <IraqiGeek> aboyousef, inta il a7san
[08:13] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, is usb didn't work for you ?
[08:13] <IraqiGeek> couldnt find how to tell it to use usb
[08:13] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, you should boot from cd
[08:13] <IraqiGeek> i quickly setup a local ftp server on another machine, courtesy of filezilla
[08:14] <IraqiGeek> aboyousef, i am booting from the cd
[08:14] <IraqiGeek> aboyousef, mneen?
[08:14] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, masr :)
[08:14] <IraqiGeek> aboyousef, agda3 naas
[08:14] <godless> W8TAH:  Reboot and see what's up. My settings under the Beryl Jewel advanced menu are all auto except force aiglx...
[08:15] <W8TAH> ok -
[08:15] <godless> W8TAH:  Worth noting that I am using the open source radeon driver
[08:15] <W8TAH> ok - also - thank you
[08:15] <aboyousif> IraqiGeek, teslam .. i think we should stop talking in this language here .. people may thin us nuts in english :)
[08:15] <godless> if you have switched to fglrx (or whatever the closed source ati drivers are) than this may be of no use
[08:15] <IraqiGeek> aboyousef, lol!
[08:18] <IraqiGeek> aboyousef, im already booting the alternate cd
[08:24] <IraqiGeek> can i install xubuntu 7.04 from within 6.06?
[08:28] <Catoptromancy> sure
[08:28] <IraqiGeek> how?
[08:28] <Catoptromancy> if your lucky upadte manager might work
[08:28] <W8TAH> godless -- got it working - thanks for the assist - -i was using the wrong driver
[08:29] <IraqiGeek> well, lets just say that im not lucky
[08:29] <Catoptromancy> I downloaded the alernate CD
[08:29] <Catoptromancy> then type "sudo apt-get update"
[08:29] <IraqiGeek> there is a bash script in the 7.04 cd called cdromupgrade, but its not running, saying permission denied
[08:30] <gnomefreak> IraqiGeek: upgrade to 6.10 than upgrade to 7.04
[08:30] <Catoptromancy> ohh 6.06
[08:30] <IraqiGeek> cato, the alternate cd is already wat i have
[08:30] <gnomefreak> IraqiGeek: you need to run it with sudo.
[08:30] <IraqiGeek> im already logged in as root
[08:30] <gnomefreak> !upgrade > IraqiGeek | IraqiGeek please read the pm from ubotu
[08:30] <gnomefreak> IraqiGeek: i didnt say logged in as root
[08:31] <gnomefreak> IraqiGeek: su and sudo are not the same
[08:31] <IraqiGeek> gnomefreak, ok...
[08:42] <IG> for some reason, the wifi adapter isnt showing (it used to work fine)
[08:42] <IG> and the upgrade script cannot upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 :(
[08:45] <kalikiana> IG, Please give us more information. What ubuntu version are you using? What kind of upgrade script are you talking about?
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> You cannot skip a release
[08:45] <IG> kalik, i have xubuntu 6.06 installed and im trying to install xubuntu 7.04
[08:46] <IG> btw, im iraqigeek, just got disconnected
[08:47] <IG> the cdrom is external, connected through firewire, and the xubuntu installer isnt detecting it, though its booting from it
[08:48] <aboyousif> IG you can rename your self by using / msg nickserv ghost IragiGeek <password> then /nick
[08:48] <grazie> IG: 6.06 > 6.10 > 7.04
[08:48] <kalikiana> Ah, ok. So what about upgrading to 6.10 first? If you don't want to reinstall there is no other way. Apart from being unsupported skipping versions is fairly dangerous.
[08:48] <IG> well i do want to install, its just that i cant
[08:49] <IG> grazie, so do i
[08:49] <grazie> IG: what's stopping you?
[08:50] <IG> grazie, the xubuntu (alternate cd) installer isnt detecting the cdrom, even though im booting from it
[08:51] <kalikiana> IG, What does 'detect' mean? Mounting?
[08:51] <grazie> IG: network (minimal) install is possible if you've got a good connetion
[08:51] <IG> detect as in the installer saying "cannot detect cdrom drive"
[08:52] <grazie> IG: I've heard at least one other person with the same problem...
[08:54] <IG> grazie, good to know im not alone
[08:56] <IG> anyone has any idea how to work around that?
[08:56] <IG> the firewire controller is listed alright in lspci
[09:02] <godless> W8TAH:  Glad to hear it. Enjoy your hours of pointless noodling before you get exasperated and switch back to xfce or fluxbox :)
[09:03] <godless> good for showing off to friends though
[09:05] <W8TAH> LOL
[09:09] <|Slurp33|> what is nice light weight cd/dvd burning software for xubuntu
[09:10] <jadelrab> |Slurp33|, brasero is good
[09:10] <hyper_ch> xfburn
[09:10] <hyper_ch> intergrated in xubuntu
[09:11] <|Slurp33|> completely missed that
[09:11] <|Slurp33|> thanx
[09:19] <grazie> |Slurp33|: xfburn doesn't seem to work for everyone...I like graveman
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> Is xfburn anything other than a gui for the cli tools ?
[09:26] <hyper_ch> h3sp4wn: nah, not really
[09:32] <h3sp4wn> I cannot understand how it could be broken then (either work for noone or everyone)
[10:33] <|Slurp33|> anyone recommend a good way to get xvid to work?
[10:35] <sk__> I would like to remote control the logged in session on my new xubuntu machine.. However, even after quite some googling, I don't know which direction to look in or if it's possible. (VNC like in the "normal" ububtu version would be nice... )
[10:35] <totalwormage> you'll need vino
[10:35] <totalwormage> for as far as i know :] 
[10:36] <sk__> thanks - a new word to feed to "the web" ;)
[10:36] <totalwormage> vino-server actually, then you can login to the xubuntu machine with just plain vnc :] 
[10:36] <totalwormage> :p
[10:37] <totalwormage> |Slurp33|: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?
[10:39] <aboyousif> !xvid
[10:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:09] <BrendanM> Ok, so I'm trying to run SNES9x (an SNES emu) but in order to do fullscreen mode, it needs access to "/dev/mem" and I can't figure out how to do that. I tried adding my user to the "kmem" group, but that doesn't seem to do it. Any suggestions?
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> ls -l /dev/kvm
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> kmem only has read
[11:10] <mcscruff> lo all, i have a dirty windows box set up but it has become virus/malware/adware city, is there a way t oclean it up from my nix box on my lan?
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> BrendanM: zsnes is alot better emulator anyway
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> but if you are on 64bit you need a chroot
[11:11] <BrendanM> h3sp4wn, I have zsnes too, but for certain games, zsnes screws up the sound
[11:12] <BrendanM> I changed the permissions on "mem" so that the group "kmem" has read+write access, but that still doesn't work
[11:12] <BrendanM> running SNES9x as root does work, btw
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> BrendanM: what version of zsnes ?
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> 1.51 built with libao for sound works great
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> !info zsnes
[11:13] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> that version is ancient
[11:14] <BrendanM> I have 1.51, I got it from www.getdeb.net
[11:15] <BrendanM> I don't know whether it's built with libao
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> ldd `which zsnes` | grep libao
[11:16] <BrendanM> ?
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> no output means its not compiled with it
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> (in which case I don't have much faith in whoever built the packages)
[11:18] <BrendanM> hmm, well, in any case, I guess I'll just run snes9x with sudo. I wish i could figure out what's up with the /dev/mem thing
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> or read about suid
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> but it would be irresponsible to advise making snes9x suid root
[11:20] <W8TAH> how would i go about adding a terminal to the right click menu?
[11:48] <Zoofmu> #xubuntuCould someone help me please, I run Xubuntu, but I got no close/minimize/restor bar.. I removed beryl and restarted X now everything is gone.
[11:49] <Jester45> press alt + F2
[11:49] <Jester45> does it have the normal xfce window or beryls or none
[11:49] <Zoofmu> Jester45 none
[11:49] <Zoofmu> just says run
[11:49] <Jester45> ok in that box type xfwm4 then click run
[11:50] <Zoofmu> Jester45 done, worked perfectluy .)
[11:50] <Zoofmu> thanks Jester45
[11:50] <Jester45> then press alt + f2 again, does it have a border now
[11:50] <Jester45> k
[11:50] <Jester45> no problem
[11:50] <Zoofmu> Jester45  how do I make it default?
[11:50] <Zoofmu> like Xubuntu was from a fresh install, so I dont have to write that all the time
[11:51] <ZER0> sorry to interupt, if im interrupting, but i have a question about installing the javac command
[11:51] <Zoofmu> ZER0  shoot
[11:51] <Jester45> you could make it auto execute command or.. save the session when you log out
[11:51] <ZER0> aight, i installed the java command easy, but i am having trouble installing javac, i installed a file downloaded from sun, jdk6.0.1, and i dont know the commands to link files to the command
[11:51] <Zoofmu> Jester45 how is default, how do I make it default
[11:51] <Jester45> mpc
[11:52] <Jester45> oops
[11:52] <Zoofmu> Jester45 autoexecute command will just lag the system
[11:52] <Zoofmu> Jester45 and I dont like saving sessions
[11:52] <Jester45> umm
[11:52] <ZER0> any help?
[11:53] <Zoofmu> ZER0
[11:53] <Zoofmu> you shouldnt
[11:53] <ZER0> yes
[11:53] <Zoofmu> ZER0 just next time
[11:53] <Jester45> ZER0: so your tring to install java?
[11:53] <Zoofmu> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[11:53] <Zoofmu> do that
[11:53] <Zoofmu> Jester45 can you help me?
[11:53] <Jester45> Zoofmu: thats what i want getting to
[11:54] <ZER0> will that sudo apt-get install thingy download the jdk again?
[11:54] <Zoofmu> Jester45  i just told him how to do it ;)
[11:54] <Zoofmu> ZER0  yeah and install it too :)
[11:54] <Jester45> ZER0: do what Zoofmu said sudo apt-get install sun-java<version number>-<type>
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[11:54] <Zoofmu> there is run time and there is developer
[11:54] <Jester45> yea the jdk jre
[11:54] <Zoofmu> ZER0  JDK or JRE
[11:54] <Zoofmu> Jester45 got ya ;)
[11:55] <ZER0> ok, thanks, ill do that
[11:55] <Zoofmu> ZER0  just type
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> I usually just get bin
[11:55] <Zoofmu> ZER0  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[11:55] <ZER0> alright
[11:55] <Zoofmu> ZER0  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk  then sun-java6-jre if u want that too :)
[11:55] <ZER0> alright, thanks
[11:55] <Jester45> and if you want you could get java5
[11:56] <ZER0> ok
[11:56] <ZER0> oh
[11:56] <Jester45> use apt also lets you easly update
[11:56] <ZER0> btw, i was working with automatix earlier, and i wanted to install gdesklets, but it kept freezing... is there gdesklets on apt-get too?
[11:57] <Jester45> !info gdesklets
[11:57] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[11:57] <Jester45> yep
[11:57] <ZER0> thanks
[11:57] <ZER0> downloading jdk now
[11:58] <ZER0> thanks alot for the help
[11:58] <ZER0> bye
[11:59] <Jester45> !info toolame
[11:59] <ubotu> toolame: MPEG-1 layer 2 audio encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 02l-3 (feisty), package size 87 kB, installed size 292 kB
[11:59] <Jester45> !info lame
[11:59] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[12:00] <Jester45> anyone know what one is better?
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> they do different things according to the descriptions
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> (or lame might do both)
[12:01] <Jester45> well.. ripperx has toolame and lame as mp3 encoder options
[12:06] <Zoofmu> Does anyone know how to make xfwm4 as standard, I recently removed beryl and now xfwm4 is not there everytime I start Xubuntu
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> Jester45: lame is more well known - What I cannot understand is why toolame is not also in multiverse if they both encode mp3
[12:07] <Jester45> i installed both