[01:12] <yimmmmy> ok guys i really need help i think im screwed  :{
[01:12] <yimmmmy> i just installed ubuntu and i went to restart now and the when i did it says error loading os
[01:12] <yimmmmy> HELP
[01:15] <yimmmmy> any one tehre i reallllly need help
[01:15] <cbx33> hey yimmmmy
[01:15] <cbx33> I can't stay long I'm off to bed
[01:15] <cbx33> 00:15 here
[01:15] <yimmmmy> please help me
[01:15] <yimmmmy> i beg you
[01:15] <cbx33> well I'll try
[01:15] <cbx33> what is the exact error messagE?
[01:16] <yimmmmy> error loading operating system
[01:16] <yimmmmy> that s all it says
[01:16] <cbx33> did you have another OS on there?
[01:17] <yimmmmy> yes
[01:17] <cbx33> what?
[01:17] <yimmmmy> i had windows on there
[01:17] <cbx33> have you googled for the error?
[01:18] <yimmmmy> no
[01:18] <cbx33> try that first
[01:18] <yimmmmy> ok
[01:18] <yimmmmy> then come back
[01:28] <yimmmmy> help help help
[02:40] <root____> does anybody know a good moodle irc network? (freenode#moodle has 5 online now)...
[02:41] <cliebow>   they have their own irc imho
[02:43] <root____> i just read they use a skype irc fyi, thanks.
[02:54] <yimmmmy> what the heck dose grub doo
[02:55] <yimmmmy> i need help
[02:57] <yimmmmy> helllo
[02:57] <yimmmmy> any one there
[03:00] <yimmmmy> hellllllooooo
[03:17] <Feldegast> ?
[03:17] <Feldegast> grub is the thing that lets you choose which kernel to boot
[03:18] <yimmmmy>  ive installed this fn ubuntu like 42 times
[03:18] <yimmmmy> this is really making me mad i just want it to work
[03:20] <yimmmmy> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:20] <Feldegast> ?
[03:21] <yimmmmy> i neeeed help
[03:22] <Feldegast> what is the problem exactly?
[03:22] <Feldegast> what is it doing and what isn't it doing?
[03:23] <yimmmmy> i cant get this ubuntu to work when i reboot i get ERROR LOADING OS
[03:24] <Feldegast> is it a fresh install?
[03:24] <Feldegast> or a dual boot or an upgrade?
[03:25] <yimmmmy> a fresh cuase it wiped my windows the first time around
[03:25] <Feldegast> where are you putting grub?
[03:25] <Feldegast> or where are you putting the bootloader rather
[03:25] <Feldegast> in the mbr?
[03:25] <yimmmmy> ?  i did the linux option on thr grub
[03:25] <yimmmmy> yea mbr  i think
[03:26] <Feldegast> did u let it partition for you or did you customise it?
[03:26] <yimmmmy> the first tim i did it for me then the secon time i did it myslf
[03:27] <Feldegast> so you have /boot / /home and swap?
[03:27] <yimmmmy> what
[03:27] <Feldegast> your partitions
[03:28] <Feldegast> or rather the mountpoints for your partitions
[03:28] <yimmmmy> when i booted after i installed the grub it said partion tabel erro
[03:29] <Feldegast> what partitions do you have now?
[03:29] <yimmmmy> im not sure i did a 100 percent part
[03:29] <Feldegast> that won't work
[03:30] <yimmmmy> i am going to try  the full disk option
[03:30] <Feldegast> you need at the minimum / and swap
[03:30] <yimmmmy> minium what
[03:31] <Feldegast> minimum number of partitions
[03:31] <yimmmmy> ok
[03:31] <Feldegast> swap should be about 1gb
[03:32] <Feldegast> at least that's what i use
[03:32] <yimmmmy> will i have the pother space later
[03:32] <Feldegast> which other space?
[03:33] <Feldegast> if u are partitioning, you do it all at once generally
[03:33] <yimmmmy> on my hdd
[03:34] <Feldegast> how do you want to partition your drive?
[03:34] <yimmmmy> one sec
[03:36] <yimmmmy> holy shit
[03:37] <yimmmmy> i got partion tabel invaild or cropted
[03:37] <yimmmmy> what the hell
[03:38] <Feldegast> that's a good reason why it won't boot
[03:39] <Feldegast> how many primary partitions did you have?
[03:42] <yimmmmy> what
[03:43] <yimmmmy> i shoudn have any
[03:43] <yimmmmy> i dont now what to do
[03:45] <Feldegast> select the option to let it partition for you
[03:47] <yimmmmy> i did
[03:47] <yimmmmy> the first two times
[03:52] <yimmmmy> i just put a new hdd in
[03:58] <Feldegast> working any better?
[04:02] <yimmmmy> im not sure  dose the hdd have to be unlocked or locked
[04:02] <yimmmmy> ?
[04:04] <Feldegast> how do u mean locked?
[04:05] <Feldegast> if it is in a removable HDD bay i'd lock it
[04:05] <Feldegast> just to make sure it can't come out accedently
[04:06] <yimmmmy> will the ubuntu format it for  me
[04:06] <Feldegast> yes
[04:06] <yimmmmy> what is logicaldisk error
[04:06] <Feldegast> ahhh
[04:06] <yimmmmy> ah what not good?
[04:06] <Feldegast> you seam to be exhibiting typical removable hdd problems
[04:07] <yimmmmy> ??
[04:07] <yimmmmy> what
[04:07] <Feldegast> try connecting the hdd without using the removable stuff
[04:07] <Feldegast> like directly inside the pc
[04:07] <yimmmmy> removable stuff?
[04:07] <yimmmmy> i have only one hdd pluged in mnow
[04:08] <Feldegast> what do you mean by locking if it isn't a removable hard drive?
[04:08] <yimmmmy> and a cd drive
[04:08] <yimmmmy> it was locked cause it was in my xbx
[04:08] <Feldegast> oh
[04:08] <Feldegast> i never buy M$ hardware
[04:08] <yimmmmy> yea
[04:09] <yimmmmy> i m thinkg that way now too
[04:10] <yimmmmy> so wat do i have to do now im installing it on a dif hdd
[04:10] <yimmmmy> can u wlak me through
[04:12] <yimmmmy> ??
[04:17] <yimmmmy> any one there
[04:17] <bonbonthejon> yes
[04:18] <yimmmmy> can u help me
[04:18] <bonbonthejon> possibly
[04:18] <bonbonthejon> !question
[04:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:18] <yimmmmy> parttion tabel error
[04:18] <yimmmmy> i just put an old hdd in there and i dont kno w what to do
[04:18] <yimmmmy> i want the stuff that might be on ther gone
[04:19] <yimmmmy> im not sure what is on the hdd that i just put in the pc
[04:19] <yimmmmy> is it alright to install the ubuntu with stuff already on the hdd
[04:20] <bonbonthejon> yimmmmy: if you don't care about the data, the installer should be able to erase the disk and use it
[04:20] <yimmmmy> ok what do i need to do
[04:20] <yimmmmy> i have the cd in the pc
[04:20] <yimmmmy> do i need grub or somthing
[04:21] <bonbonthejon> yimmmmy: it's probably a live CD, it will load then you need to double click the installer from the desktop
[04:21] <bonbonthejon> yimmmmy: it should handle the rest
[04:21] <yimmmmy> ok
[04:21] <yimmmmy> are u sure it wiill work
[04:21] <yimmmmy> if it dont can i do somthing else
[04:23] <bonbonthejon> yimmmmy: it should work, otherwise we can work on fixing problems that come up
[04:23] <yimmmmy> ok
[04:23] <yimmmmy> ill brb
[04:23] <yimmmmy> ill try instaling it
[04:24] <yimmmmy> will you be here
[04:24] <bonbonthejon> yeah, Ill be around for a few hours
[04:25] <yimmmmy> ok brb
[04:38] <yimmmmy> yo bro
[04:38] <yimmmmy> its installing now
[04:38] <yimmmmy> i checked the entire disk option
[04:38] <yimmmmy> on the hdd set up
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> ok
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you thank you thank you thank you
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you thank you thank you thank you
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you thank you thank you thank you
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you thank you thank you thank you
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you thank you thank you thank you
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you thank you thank you thank you
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you thank you thank you thank you
[04:59] <yimmmmy> thank you God
[05:00] <yimmmmy> it finaly works
[05:00] <yimmmmy> thank you jesus
[05:00] <yimmmmy> i love you
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought it was bonbonthejon who was helping
[05:00] <yimmmmy> him and jesus
[05:00] <yimmmmy> but it finaly works
[05:00] <yimmmmy> FINALY after 11 hours of failure
[05:01] <yimmmmy> so what do i do with my other hdd that i wnat it there
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> yimmmmy: god works in mysterious ways
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> yimmmmy: you can mount it and use the data
[05:03] <yimmmmy> hell yes he dose
[05:03] <yimmmmy> i want my other hdd pluged in and working
[05:03] <yimmmmy> so just plug it in
[05:04] <bonbonthejon> yimmmmy: with the computer off, plug it in, then we have some setting up for linux to use it
[05:05] <yimmmmy> ok one sec
[05:22] <yimmmmy> ok pluged in
[05:22] <yimmmmy> and up and running i need help with it
[08:38] <frustratedwithed> need some help diagnosing my install.  I have reinstalled 5 times and spent a whole week trying to figure out why my install doesn't work.  I have a set up as described at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20296/.
[08:38] <frustratedwithed> The problem is that when I start up my thin clients, they will connect with the DHCP server start the splash window and then
[08:39] <frustratedwithed> crash with a single blinking cursor
[08:39] <frustratedwithed> it doesn't come up after that.
[08:39] <HedgeMage> frustratedwithed: I'm not good with LTSP or I'd stay... you might want to give it a couple of hours... the next wave of people should start waking up soon.
[08:39] <frustratedwithed> Any ideas?
[08:41] <frustratedwithed> Any one else here who wants to give it a try?
[08:42] <frustratedwithed> Someone mentioned it might be a problem with the NFS, but I don't know how to diagnose that
[08:53] <frustratedwithed> need some help diagnosing my install.  I have reinstalled 5 times and spent a whole week trying to figure out why my install doesn't work.  I have a set up as described at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20296/.
[08:53] <frustratedwithed> The problem is that when I start up my thin clients, they will connect with the DHCP server start the splash window and then
[08:53] <frustratedwithed> crash with a single blinking cursor
[08:53] <frustratedwithed> it doesn't come up after that.
[08:54] <frustratedwithed> Any ideas?
[11:50] <MM2_> My installation freezed in "apt settings"
[11:51] <MM2_> I think it needs proxy-settings
[11:51] <MM2_> How I can set them?
[11:51] <MM2_> Or finish installation otherways?
[11:52] <sbalneav> Are you behind a proxy?
[11:52] <MM2_> yes
[11:52] <MM2_> I set settings in system -> preferences -> network proxy, but it was not enough?
[11:52] <sbalneav> It will time out eventually, then you can enter a proxy
[11:53] <MM2_> Hm... It is a long timeout...
[11:57] <MM2_> It didn't timeout, now it is installing language packages (and fetching them). I hope it won't try to download them...
[12:02] <cliebow>  !s!!!!
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s!!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <MM2_> darn! new installation won't reboot :(
[12:13] <highvoltage> MM2_: which one is that?
[12:14] <MM2_> well, I rebooted and server started up
[01:04] <cliebow> frustratedwithed, can you commeent out the splaash quiry piece in you configs..so you can see wheere it dies??
[01:04] <cliebow> Balls!
[01:04] <cliebow> frustratedwithed, can you commeent out the splaash quiet piece in you configs..so you can see wheere it dies??
[01:12] <MM2_> booting with thin client gives tftp file not found. How to trace problem?
[01:28] <cliebow> MM2_, ill lok you up from school..
[01:28] <MM2_> got it
[01:29] <MM2_> path was wrong in dhcp
[01:29] <cliebow> cool1!
[01:31] <MM2_> But login screen won't show up :(
[01:31] <MM2_> But machine boots, ok :)
[01:57] <frustratedwithed> need some help diagnosing my install.  I have reinstalled 5 times and spent a whole week trying to figure out why my install doesn't work.  I have a set up as described at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20296/.
[01:58] <frustratedwithed> The problem is that when I start up my thin clients, they will connect with the DHCP server start the splash window and then
[01:58] <frustratedwithed> crash with a single blinking cursor
[01:58] <frustratedwithed> it doesn't come up after that.
[01:58] <frustratedwithed> Any ideas?
[01:59] <MM2_> :) Mine clients did same thingy :(
[01:59] <sbalneav> Ideas?
[01:59] <sbalneav> Just joined, sorry, what's the problem?
[02:00] <frustratedwithed> Also there is a line in the syslog that says:  in.tftpd[7206] : tftp: client does not accept options
[02:01] <sbalneav> frustratedwithed: What's the problem?
[02:01] <frustratedwithed> MM2: have you solved the issue?  It seems to be the same as mine
[02:02] <frustratedwithed> need some help diagnosing my install.  I have reinstalled 5 times and spent a whole week trying to figure out why my install doesn't work.  I have a set up as described at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20296/.
[02:02] <frustratedwithed> The problem is that when I start up my thin clients, they will connect with the DHCP server start the splash window and then
[02:02] <frustratedwithed> crash with a single blinking cursor
[02:02] <frustratedwithed> it doesn't come up after that.
[02:02] <frustratedwithed> Also there is a line in the syslog that says:  in.tftpd[7206] : tftp: client does not accept options
[02:03] <frustratedwithed> sbalneav: that's the problem
[02:04] <frustratedwithed> There seems to be a similar problem described at http://www.nautilus6.org/doc/tc-vaio-linux-bsd-20041221-KuntzR.txt
[02:04] <sbalneav> frustratedwithed: Well, if what you pasted is correct, your network interfaves are wrong.
[02:04] <frustratedwithed> on point number 4.
[02:04] <sbalneav> interfaces are wrong.
[02:04] <sbalneav> can you do an ifconfig -a, and paste to the pastebin?
[02:04] <frustratedwithed> sbalneav: what do you mean?  The network interfaces are wrong?
[02:05] <frustratedwithed> sbalneav: in a minute
[02:05] <sbalneav> Both eth0 and eth1 have a bcast of 192.168.0.255
[02:06] <sbalneav> when, according to your map, eth0 should have a bcast of 192.168.1.255
[02:06] <sbalneav> as well, if you have the IP address of eth0 set to 192.168.1.0. that's simply not going to work.
[02:07] <sbalneav> So, lets see what's going on for sure with ifconfig -a, then we'll get you fixed up.
[02:07] <frustratedwithed> sbaneav: the ifconfig says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20324/  also look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20296/ for network setup
[02:08] <frustratedwithed> appreciate it
[02:08] <sbalneav> yeah, eth0 is hopelessly wrong.
[02:08] <sbalneav> ok
[02:08] <sbalneav> can you paste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[02:09] <frustratedwithed> how do I fix it?
[02:09] <frustratedwithed> ok
[02:10] <frustratedwithed> sbalneav: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20325/
[02:10] <sbalneav> yeah
[02:10] <sbalneav> there's some problems.
[02:10] <sbalneav> let's fix 'em
[02:11] <sbalneav> You'll want eth0 to look like:
[02:11] <sbalneav> address 192.168.1.254
[02:11] <sbalneav> netmask the same
[02:11] <sbalneav> gateway 192.168.1.254
[02:11] <sbalneav> broadcast 192.168.1.255
[02:13] <sbalneav> next, we might need to patch up your dhcpd.conf file.
[02:13] <sbalneav> Let me know when you're done with interfaces
[02:15] <sbalneav> frustratedwithed: making headway?
[02:15] <frustratedwithed> fixed eth0, do you mean /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[02:16] <sbalneav> no, not that one.
[02:16] <sbalneav> first, lets make sure eth0's fixed
[02:16] <sbalneav> you should be able to do an sudo ifdown eth0
[02:16] <sbalneav> followed by a sudo ifup eth0
[02:16] <sbalneav> then ifconfig eth0
[02:17] <sbalneav> paste the output of the ifconfig, if we've got it fixed, we'll move on.
[02:23] <sbalneav> Well, either his network map wasn't exactly what he told me, or he made a mistake :)
[02:23] <sbalneav> Welcome back!
[02:23] <frustratedwithed> Got disconnected after sudo ifup eth0
[02:24] <sbalneav> did a reboot?
[02:25] <frustratedwithed> sbalneav: yes, I had to reboot.  here is the ifconfig eth0 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20329/
[02:26] <sbalneav> ok, looks good
[02:26] <sbalneav> now, lets fix up your dhcp
[02:26] <frustratedwithed> ok
[02:26] <sbalneav> should be in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[02:27] <sbalneav> I'm willing to wager if you have a look at it, it's configured for 192.168.0.x
[02:27] <frustratedwithed> here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20330/
[02:28] <sbalneav> Hmm, that looks reasonable.
[02:28] <sbalneav> ok
[02:28] <sbalneav> ps -ef | grep dhcp3
[02:28] <sbalneav> is it running?
[02:28] <frustratedwithed> yeah, my pxe clients don't have a problem with the dhcp, they seem to get an IP an all, but freeze while trying to boot
[02:29] <sbalneav> well, lets try now, that we've got the network interface fixed up
[02:30] <frustratedwithed> yes, it is running I get a PID 5242
[02:30] <sbalneav> Now, just before I go on, lets double check something.
[02:30] <frustratedwithed> ok
[02:30] <sbalneav> eth0 is plugged into a separate switch or hub than the wireless router, right?
[02:31] <sbalneav> so you've got a wireless router, a server, and a switch/hup and a thin client.
[02:31] <frustratedwithed> yes, eth0 is plug to a switch separate from the router.  the router is plugged to eth1
[02:31] <sbalneav> cool
[02:32] <sbalneav> We should also need to to a sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys as well, since we've changed the ip
[02:32] <frustratedwithed> ok
[02:32] <sbalneav> you should boot without it, but you won't be able to log in unless you do it.
[02:32] <sbalneav> after you've done that, lets give booting a thin client a try.
[02:33] <frustratedwithed> what do you mean I should boot without it?
[02:33] <sbalneav> well, do the update-sshkeys, it only takes a sec, then try booting
[02:34] <frustratedwithed> I did.
[02:34] <frustratedwithed> I then turned the thing client
[02:34] <frustratedwithed> the splash window came up
[02:35] <frustratedwithed> after a while the progress bar did not move
[02:35] <frustratedwithed> and I am back on the single blinking cursor
[02:35] <sbalneav> ok
[02:36] <cliebow_> frustratedwithed, did you try to comment splash quiet out?
[02:36] <sbalneav> lets go to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg
[02:36] <sbalneav> edit the file "default"
[02:36] <sbalneav> remove the keyords "splash" and "quiet"
[02:36] <frustratedwithed> cliebow: no
[02:36] <frustratedwithed> ok
[02:36] <cliebow_> oops..stepped on sbalneavs toes
[02:36] <sbalneav> that will allow us to see what's going on when it boots.
[02:38] <frustratedwithed> ok, I'll try to boot the thin client again
[02:41] <frustratedwithed> Guess what???
[02:41] <sbalneav> What?
[02:41] <frustratedwithed> It now works!!!!
[02:41] <sbalneav> heh
[02:41] <frustratedwithed> yeeepeeeh!!!
[02:42] <sbalneav> maybe the thin client doesn't like the bootplash
[02:42] <frustratedwithed> Thank you very much!
[02:42] <sbalneav> ok, keep a note of this.
[02:42] <frustratedwithed> Maybe it doesn't
[02:42] <sbalneav> if you ever run "ltsp-update-kernels" again, it's going to over write the pxeconfig file again
[02:42] <frustratedwithed> I guess I now have to install the drivers for the monitor, seems the graphics are terrible
[02:43] <sbalneav> what kind of machine is it?
[02:43] <frustratedwithed> It's an old Fujitsu FMV, with 900Mhz CPU
[02:43] <sbalneav> Any idea what kind of graphics card in it?
[02:44] <frustratedwithed> The model is a 6900Ml8c
[02:44] <frustratedwithed> It is integrated in the board
[02:44] <frustratedwithed> I am sure I can find out
[02:44] <frustratedwithed> I got about 25 from the university because they were going to scrap them
[02:44] <sbalneav> yeah, it's probably defaulting to vesa, or something similarly ugly
[02:44] <sbalneav> so you might have to do some fiddling.
[02:45] <sbalneav> the fact that bootsplash hung it was a good indication that it's an odd video chip :)
[02:45] <frustratedwithed> I have a lot of these, so I'll open one or run W2000 and see the specs
[02:46] <sbalneav> yeah, that might need a bit of tweaking.
[02:47] <cliebow_> frustratedwithed, sorry to hear of that..8~)
[02:48] <frustratedwithed> clie: that's OK, I have no where better to go or nothing better to do this weekend ;-)
[02:50] <cliebow_> i think ill stay home and watch some paint dry..
[02:50] <willvdl> ogra, RichEd is in room B
[02:51] <RichEd> ogra: are you lookin' for me ?
[02:52] <RichEd> frustratedwithed: as a matter of interest ... i preume that the Ed part of your nick is Education and not Edward or such like ?
[02:53] <RichEd> I'm just curious as to what your main point of frustration is with education ...
[02:54] <RichEd> hi SimonAnibal ...
[02:54] <frustratedwithed> RichEd: I was really frustrated until a couple of minutes ago, because I tried to
[02:54] <ogra> RichEd, i'm done, bring me the next one :)
[02:54] <frustratedwithed> follow the instructions for a classroom setup on feisty, but it would not work.
[02:54] <ogra> that one was for BenC, right ?
[02:54] <RichEd> ogra ... okay ... yes ...
[02:54] <sbalneav> RichEd: He was frustrated with Edubuntu.  I fixed him :)
[02:54] <frustratedwithed> I didn't sleep for about 3 days and install over 5 times, before today
[02:54] <RichEd> so /nick happywithed ?
[02:55] <frustratedwithed> but thanks to sbalneav it now works
[02:55] <ogra> next time just come here first :)
[02:55] <frustratedwithed> I am changing my name next time to happywithed if it is not taken yet, ;-)
[02:55] <ogra> we have this wonderful balneavean support here :)
[02:55] <RichEd> thanks sbalneav ... frustratedwithed can you help us fix / mod the docs if they were fuzzy
[02:56] <sbalneav> frustratedwithed: yeah, what was the page you followed?  Lets get it more clear :)
[02:56] <happywithed> sure thing
[02:56] <happywithed> I have taken a few notes
[02:56] <ogra> RichEd, do you have enough power bricks for all of them ? ben will need one
[02:56] <RichEd> happywithed :) where are you based ?
[02:56] <RichEd> ogra: indeed
[02:56] <happywithed> Japan
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi RichEd , hi happywithed
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> happywithed, hope you got your NFS fixed?
[02:57] <RichEd> happywithed: great ... we've got users we know of in China, Thailand, Philippines ... Japan would be a nice place to spread the Ubuntu word a bit more
[02:57] <happywithed> New question, I tried to start a Firefox on the client and it would not let me because I had one on the server, now it won't let me start one on the server because I have one on the client
[02:57] <happywithed> hi KK
[02:58] <sbalneav> happywithed: heh, don't log in as the same user twice
[02:58] <happywithed> I see
[02:58] <sbalneav> neither gnome nor kde, nor a whole raft of programs like it.
[02:58] <happywithed> ok
[02:58] <happywithed> I have to setup my users before monday
[02:59] <sbalneav> best to create a few user accounts
[02:59] <happywithed> New question: I just connected another PC on the thin client switch.  I tried to start it as a non-thin-client, stand alone edubuntu
[03:00] <happywithed> It starts, but the network is not giving it access to the Internet? Is this a feature?
[03:00] <RichEd> ogra: will come see you now in person
[03:01] <ogra> good :)
[03:01] <happywithed> ie, the thin-client switch only lets thin-clients on the net, right?
[03:02] <sbalneav> willvdl: http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/09/Pasco/Armless_driver_eludes.shtml
[03:03] <sbalneav> happywithed: yeppers
[03:03] <happywithed> Does DHCP server only gives IP addresses to the LTSP clients?
[03:03] <ogra> nope
[03:03] <sbalneav> no, it's that the edubuntu box isn't acting as a router
[03:04] <sbalneav> it's actually a nice little feature, really
[03:04] <sbalneav> if you've got an edubuntu lab, someone can't come along and start browsing naughty bits on their laptop.
[03:05] <ogra> the dhcp server also gives out the info where to find a kernel and where the / directory for the client is
[03:05] <happywithed> OK, that's good
[03:06] <happywithed> I have to go now.  Some of my students want to party.  So I guess I don't have to watch the paint dry after all.
[03:06] <happywithed> I'll write up my experience in the next few days, where should I post it?
[03:08] <happywithed> signing out.  Thanks KK, sbalneav and all other who helpped.  I'll be back....
[03:12] <cliebow_> IT'S ALIVE!!
[03:15] <sbalneav> cliebow_: careful, Dr. Frankenstein came to a bad end after muttering those words.
[03:15] <cliebow_> figures...
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> sbalneav, what did you do to him? :P
[03:29] <moquist> sbalneav: how are you feeling?
[03:32] <moquist> Got a system here that doesn't boot the Edubuntu install CD. It drops me into a BusyBox in the initramfs with the complaint "/bin/sh: can't access tty; ob control turned off" :( So now I'm figuring that out.
[03:34] <sbalneav> moquist: sounds like your booting an ltsp 4.2 kernel
[03:34] <sbalneav> moquist: Doing a bit better, thanks.
[03:38] <cliebow_> moquist..that sounds like a 5 kernel with no nfs working
[03:42] <willvdl> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-application-review
[03:42] <willvdl> Up for review
[03:42] <willvdl> the devil is in the details
[03:48] <moquist> sbalneav, cliebow_: yes, that's what it sounds like. but it's actually the Edubuntu Feisty installation CD. :\
[03:48] <moquist> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415009&page=3
[03:48] <moquist> that page has a relevant discussion
[03:48] <moquist> (in case anyone is curious)
[03:49] <moquist> sbalneav: Good. We missed you for the past several days, and I hope Jim shook your hand for me, since I didn't see you to say good-bye.
[03:49] <moquist> sbalneav: And I remember that I owe you several beers for the trip to the top of Gibraltar. ;)
[03:50] <moquist> Let's see...that would be 8 pounds of beers.
[03:50] <moquist> Should we consider that to be a monetary unit, or one of weight? ;-)
[03:50] <cliebow_> moquist..so you are home?
[03:50] <moquist> cliebow_: yes, but at work. :)
[03:52] <willvdl> moquist, woot
[03:52] <willvdl> take it you're trip back was alright
[04:50] <yimmmmy> why hello i have a few questions about linux cause im finaly a linux noob
[04:50] <yimmmmy> :}
[04:51] <Burgundavia_> shoot
[04:51] <yimmmmy> all right i have some software questions
[04:52] <yimmmmy> is there a list of software that  u cant use on linux
[04:55] <yimmmmy> can i use my video capturing card with ubuntu
[04:55] <Burgundavia_> hmm
[04:55] <Burgundavia_> what I do is download the desktop cd and try it out
[04:56] <Burgundavia_> what I would
[04:56] <yimmmmy> its usb so i can just plug it in thats what i did with windows
[05:01] <yimmmmy> can i dl torrents and hack roms and mod games
[05:08] <yimmmmy> my freind has a relyy fast pc and it has a hole bunch of stuff can i put ubuntu on it
[05:09] <Burgundavia_> yes, you can
[05:09] <yimmmmy> will i ave any trouble
[05:09] <yimmmmy> with it
[05:09] <Burgundavia_> likely not
[05:09] <yimmmmy> the drivers and stuff for the graphics cards\
[05:10] <Burgundavia_> already built in, likely
[05:10] <yimmmmy> ok
[05:10] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia_: what plans for the last day? dinner or something?
[05:10] <yimmmmy> ill get the 64 bit version and do it
[05:11] <Burgundavia_> dinner in a few hours
[05:11] <Burgundavia_> we just had a wrap up
[05:11] <Burgundavia_> watched the video of jessym installing Ubuntu at her library
[05:11] <jsgotangco> ahh
[05:11] <jsgotangco> so how does this UDS fare compared to past
[05:12] <Burgundavia_> good, actually
[05:12] <Burgundavia_> not chinese everynight
[05:12] <willvdl> jsgotangco, woot
[05:12] <jsgotangco> lol
[05:12] <jsgotangco> willvdl: hey will
[05:13] <yimmmmy> skipping school
[05:22] <willvdl> erm, that's not in the manual
[05:23] <cliebow_> Burgundavia_, i take it you were in Montreal 8~)
[05:23] <Burgundavia_> indeed
[05:24] <moquist> willvdl: indeed it was
[05:25] <moquist> willvdl: but I wandered around like an idiot in the Madrid airport. I was *SO* tired, and the language issue just compounded things. :p Eventually I found terminal 1 and got my boarding pass. I slept like a baby for the first 5 hours of the flight. :)
[05:25] <willvdl> and the rest?
[05:30] <pheonix> is there anyone from mumbai
[05:31] <pheonix> is there anyone from mumbai
[05:31] <Burgundavia_> afaik, no
[05:31] <Burgundavia_> you might try #ubuntu-in
[05:31] <pheonix> ok
[05:31] <pheonix> tthank you
[05:56] <Deuses> hello
[05:58] <Burgundavia> hello Deuses
[05:58] <Deuses> I have a big problem here... trying to compile a driver
[05:59] <Deuses> when I run make... I get make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[05:59] <Deuses> fails to build
[06:00] <Deuses> I have 2.6.15-28-386 headers
[06:00] <Deuses> and build-essential
[06:00] <Deuses> no one can figure this out..
[06:00] <crimsun> are you actually running 2.6.15-28-386?
[06:01] <Deuses> when I do a uname -r, thats what it says
[06:01] <crimsun> ok, good.
[06:01] <crimsun> dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[06:01] <crimsun> sorry, need to run to a meeting
[06:02] <Deuses> ii  linux-headers-2.6.15-28-386 2.6.15-28.53   Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386
[06:02] <Deuses> how does that help
[06:07] <Deuses> help
[06:07] <Burgundavia> what exactly are you trying build?
[06:08] <Deuses> rt2570 driver
[06:08] <Deuses> for my usb wifi card
[06:08] <Burgundavia> ahh
[06:09] <Deuses> so... any ideas
[06:09] <irun2win> Hello
[06:09] <irun2win> is there a list of the applications on the add on CD?
[06:09] <Burgundavia> not yet
[06:09] <irun2win> Or are they marked in anyway on within Synaptic?
[06:09] <Burgundavia> nope
[06:10] <irun2win> So I have to get the CD then?
[06:10] <Burgundavia> there is something coming, but for now you can view the seed file
[06:11] <irun2win> Well are the applications there in some category?
[06:11] <Burgundavia> here is the list
[06:11] <Burgundavia> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.feisty/annotate/cjwatson%40canonical.com-20070417133416-2vh5zq74j8momvuq?file_id=shipaddon-20070126154354-7sjj0vbwsk86qfjd-1
[06:11] <irun2win> Like pretty good but not good enough for CD1 ?
[06:12] <Burgundavia> no, the applications are there because of space
[06:15] <irun2win> Ok :-)
[06:18] <irun2win> Thanks
[06:43] <bddebian> Heya
[07:38] <alfred_> hello, is it fairly easy to change to the kdm login from ldm?
[09:14] <rpereira> Hi. Does somebody know if there is an Edubuntu Book for schools?
[09:15] <k2nt23> hi
[09:15] <k2nt23> como puedo ayudar al proyecto edubuntu
[09:17] <rpereira> Does somebody know if there is an Edubuntu Book for schools?
[09:53] <root____> can anyone tell me why my edubuntu install keeps hanging on package brltty-x11?
[10:11] <root____> this person has my same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2595062   anybody help?
[10:59] <xivulon> hi there
[10:59] <xivulon> I am a ubuntu developer
[10:59] <xivulon> I meant a Wubi developer
[10:59] <xivulon> I would like to add edubuntu to the supported ISO
[10:59] <xivulon> I need the size in bytes (would spare me a download)
[10:59] <xivulon> of the alternate ISO
[10:59] <xivulon> and someone willing to test
[11:00] <xivulon> PS are you using kernel 2.6.20-15-generic?
[11:14] <xivulon> Q do you have any alternate ISO available? (based on debian-installer)
[11:54] <MrWizard14> I need several things of help
[11:54] <MrWizard14> I need to fix a school computer
[11:55] <MrWizard14> and I know the most about linux
[11:55] <MrWizard14> so I've been drafted to help
[11:55] <MrWizard14> I need to know how to secure things so that...
[11:55] <MrWizard14> students can't mess things up
[11:56] <MrWizard14> and the school has done a brillian job of security so far
[11:56] <MrWizard14> the student account is the only admin
[11:56] <MrWizard14> and the root password is "Password"
[11:56] <MrWizard14> So I have been asked to lock it down
[11:57] <MrWizard14> And I need help doing so
[11:57] <MrWizard14> any takers?
[11:57] <MrWizard14> I am sitting at the computer right now
[11:58] <MrWizard14> Because I am actually getting extra credit for doing this
[11:58] <MrWizard14> any takers?