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| yuriy | wow i _just_ found out konqueror had mouse gestures. byebye opera | 06:22 |
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| yuriy | why aren't they enabled by default? | 06:22 |
| Jucato | because themouse gestures aren't just for Konqueror. so enabling mouse gestures enables it for all of KDE? | 07:01 |
| fdoving | even better? :) | 07:01 |
| fdoving | off to work. bye. | 07:01 |
| Jucato | bye fdoving | 07:01 |
| Jucato | yeah better, but not everyone knows how to use them... like me | 07:01 |
| nixternal | or me | 07:07 |
| Jucato | woot! I'm not the only weirdo :D | 07:07 |
| nixternal | haha | 07:07 |
| Jucato | although I imagine that if I ever get hooked on these gestures... I'll be waving my mouse around like a wand... :/ | 07:08 |
| nixternal | lol | 07:08 |
| nixternal | I don't use the mouse much anyways | 07:09 |
| Jucato | you have a touchscreen!?! O.o | 07:09 |
| Jucato | :P | 07:09 |
| nixternal | terminal is where I tend to live | 07:09 |
| Jucato | figures :) | 07:09 |
| nixternal | Riddell: Toys, Graphics, Admin, and Multimedia built fine. Network built out, but on install it dies w/o --force-overwrite due to oxygen icons ;) Games, PIM, and Edu crash out during build. The other ones need to be created from scratch, but w/o having Games, PIM, and Edu, I can't really build the others due to depends | 07:11 |
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| aman | help me | 08:07 |
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| dinosaur-rus | hi friends :) | 08:16 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: did you fix /usr/lib64 issue? | 09:16 |
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| dadchicken | Hobbsee: Are you on the mailing lists team? | 09:32 |
| Hobbsee | dadchicken: the what now? | 09:33 |
| dadchicken | Hobbsee: We've got some folks being rather discourteous to others on the kubuntu-users list. | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | dadchicken: fun... | 09:34 |
| Hobbsee | dadchicken: i'm not a moderator of it, no | 09:34 |
| dadchicken | Righto. | 09:35 |
| Riddell | dadchicken: what's up? | 09:36 |
| dadchicken | Oh, just some folks getting impolite with new folks, and cursing at me for asking them to be a little less hostile. | 09:37 |
| dadchicken | The usua. | 09:37 |
| dadchicken | l | 09:37 |
| dadchicken | Because evidently, suggesting that the threading issue may have been related to a bug rather than an intentional hijacking makes me an asshole. | 09:39 |
| Riddell | dadchicken: I've blocked that thread now | 09:39 |
| dadchicken | So many more better reasons to call me an asshole... | 09:40 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Adios Espania! | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | #uds-sevilla http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/uds-sevilla/ | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: we're not leaving yet :P | 09:41 |
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| Riddell | I don't know the spanish for "one more day" | 09:41 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 09:41 |
| Riddell | jings, anyone not got a cold coming on today? | 09:42 |
| Hobbsee | hmm? | 09:44 |
| dadchicken | Solamente un da de restante en Espaa. | 09:46 |
| dadchicken | There you go Riddell | 09:46 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: hi | 09:51 |
| freeflying | Riddell: can you sposor me an upload now | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: unlikely, we're at UDS - about to go into a session | 09:52 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: I see | 09:52 |
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| Riddell | mhb: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-restricted-manager updated | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | question 6427 | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | bug 1 | 03:12 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 03:12 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: how is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-gutsy-council doing? | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ENOWIFIOUTSIDE. | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | er, -E... | 03:22 |
| Riddell | and yet IRC continues to work :) | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | it exists in some form, though | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i'm not outside now :) | 03:23 |
| yuriy | "Pending Approval (Needs guidance)" on the guidance spec amuses me | 03:25 |
| yuriy | morning | 03:25 |
| Riddell | it's even more amusing on the displayconfig-gtk spec | 03:26 |
| rbrunhuber | Hello all | 03:34 |
| dadchicken | howdy | 03:34 |
| nixternal | Riddell: if fixed that issue by building on amd64 | 03:35 |
| nixternal | s/if/I | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it exists now in a non-spec type spec. | 03:36 |
| rbrunhuber | Are there just few new gutsy packages or do i have a "blocker" app which hinders upgrades? | 03:44 |
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| Hobbsee | you can upgrade | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | not a great idea, though | 03:44 |
| hunger | Hobbsee: Yes, but there are not many packages to update yet:-( | 03:45 |
| hunger | Hobbsee: What will break if I upgrade? (or better: once I reboot;-) | 03:45 |
| rbrunhuber | I always upgraded when the new repos are open I like to keep track of the progress :-) | 03:45 |
| hunger | rbrunhuber: Same here... I am addicted to new packages and get nervous when there aren't any;-) | 03:46 |
| rbrunhuber | hunger: I have a feisty on my desktop that gets me mad. Every update nothing new. This does not feel like progress. | 03:47 |
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| === nixternal wants his CPU speed showing in Guidance :( | ||
| hunger | nixternal: kpowersave does that and has some more nice features. | 04:00 |
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| nixternal | very true | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | hunger: nm doesnt work. otehr things seem to. | 04:01 |
| yuriy | that so? maybe i'll try it when nm works | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | didnt check very far | 04:05 |
| yuriy | looking forward to the battery life stuff sebas blogged about in 2.6.21 | 04:06 |
| hunger | NM works for me... but then I did not reboot in a while:-) | 04:06 |
| Riddell | doc__: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+join | 04:22 |
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| Fahuadai | hello. | 04:52 |
| Fahuadai | I'm looking for a place to contribute my modest programming skills to. A link for a starting place or something would be great. | 04:53 |
| Jucato | Fahuadai: you will pardon if you don't get an answer at this time... some of the devs are at UDS right now | 04:55 |
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| Fahuadai | no worries. i'm just about to upgrade to 7.04 anyways | 04:56 |
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| dinosaur-rus | hi | 05:24 |
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| nixternal | http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1 | 05:50 |
| nixternal | PCLinuxOS > Ubuntu || KDE > GNOME || who cares? :p | 05:51 |
| nixternal | hehe | 05:51 |
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| jsgotangco | huh? | 05:56 |
| Hobbsee | hi spam | 05:57 |
| jsgotangco | hey Hobbsee aren't you guys supposed to have an elegant dinner or something | 05:58 |
| crimsun | yes, she's just teasing us. | 05:58 |
| jsgotangco | arrghhh! | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | jsgotangco: in a couple of hours, yeah | 05:59 |
| jsgotangco | that librarian in the video looks stoned lol | 05:59 |
| jsgotangco | but the catchy zydeco music is a winner for sure | 05:59 |
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| nixternal | jsgotangco: congrats btw on the CC thing ;) | 06:08 |
| jsgotangco | nixternal: thanks :) | 06:08 |
| buz | two things about the kde alpha packages | 06:10 |
| nixternal | 1) they aren't complete | 06:10 |
| buz | first, the repo in the announcement is not quite right | 06:10 |
| nixternal | 2) ... can't remember | 06:10 |
| buz | i think it should be deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/ feisty main | 06:10 |
| nixternal | buz: you are correct | 06:10 |
| === nixternal creates a quick patch to fix that | ||
| buz | and second, they want to remove kubuntu-desktop :( | 06:10 |
| nixternal | hrmm, they didn't do that here | 06:11 |
| buz | http://pastebin.ca/483155 | 06:12 |
| buz | i think its because of the qt changes | 06:13 |
| buz | kubuntu-desktop probably does depend on plain qt4 | 06:13 |
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| nixternal | well I know the kde4* packages dep on libqt4-*-kdecopy | 06:19 |
| buz | yeah so they yank out kubuntu-desktops dependency on qt4 | 06:19 |
| buz | and kubuntu-desktop with it | 06:19 |
| buz | it should probably create a diversion | 06:19 |
| buz | or whatever the name for that was | 06:19 |
| nixternal | is it wanting to remove just kubuntu-desktop, or all of the applications that it falls under? | 06:20 |
| nixternal | hrmm, seems Riddell hasn't pushed the changed to bzr yet | 06:23 |
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| buz | just kubuntu-desktop | 06:29 |
| buz | and a few select others | 06:29 |
| buz | see http://pastebin.ca/483155 | 06:30 |
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| nixternal | hrmm | 06:31 |
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| nixternal | I didn't get that | 06:31 |
| buz | i wont install it just now | 06:31 |
| nixternal | I wonder if there was a change since I did mine the other day | 06:31 |
| nixternal | I don't have access to the site, otherwise I would fix that typo | 06:32 |
| nixternal | plus the modules I built for amd64 haven't been added either, and there are modules awaiting | 06:32 |
| nixternal | ahh well, will check it out later, time to get to work | 06:33 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 06:43 |
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| dinosaur-rus | hi bddebian | 06:49 |
| bddebian | Hello dinosaur-rus | 06:51 |
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| paran | Hi. The apt sources line on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php is incorrect | 08:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ | 08:35 |
| paran | should be: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/ feisty main | 08:35 |
| paran | nice work getting the alpha to feisty this fast btw :) | 08:37 |
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| rbrunhuber | are the kde 4 alpha 1 packages compatible with gutsy? | 08:43 |
| _StefanS_ | just saw that also :) | 08:48 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : so we'll have to try spoiling a setup :-) | 08:50 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: I can test on my gutsy vm if you like ? :) | 08:51 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Would be a great help. | 08:52 |
| _StefanS_ | be like 5 mins | 08:53 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : thanks. | 08:53 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: its downloading.. | 08:55 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : so at last apt sees no dependency problems? So problems may only arise at run time. | 09:00 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: seems ok for now, its almost done downloading those 210mb of archives ;) | 09:01 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: nice having that 15mbit line | 09:01 |
| _StefanS_ | installing now | 09:01 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Cool can't get a faster line than 6 mbit here near munich. Shit | 09:02 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: 6mbit is ok too :) | 09:02 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: I may switch to 20mbit soon, the prices seem to be going down | 09:02 |
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| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Is this in Germany? | 09:03 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: dk | 09:03 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: you know the country with the shitty taxes | 09:03 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : whats so bad about your taxes? | 09:04 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: it installed fine on my default gutsy | 09:04 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: >50% on income, and 63% if you have a company | 09:04 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Fine will give it a shot tonight. | 09:04 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: cars = buy one and pay for three | 09:04 |
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| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Sounds like a real good opportunity to make a small fortune (if you start with a big one :-)) | 09:05 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: well yes, and you end up keeping the country afloat too by paying your ass of in taxes. | 09:06 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: thats how it is though, nothing to do about it. | 09:06 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: goot thing you have imaginative accountants ;) | 09:06 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : At least fast lines :-) | 09:06 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: my company pays ;) | 09:06 |
| _StefanS_ | sweden is where you want to be.. | 09:06 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Sweden? I thought they had times where you could end up with 108% taxes for the last buck?! | 09:09 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: well thats alot more in dk, so I say again. Sweden is where you want to be. | 09:09 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : But maybe we should change the topic for this is not #tax-discussions :-) | 09:09 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: right. EOF discussion. | 09:10 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: good luck on the kde4 thing. | 09:10 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_: Back to kde4 any shiny new featurs | 09:10 |
| _StefanS_ | ;D | 09:10 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Saw some screenshots but still don't know if they are RL or mockups | 09:13 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: well from what I have seen so far its not really a desktop yet. Rather a few qt4 apps ;) | 09:13 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: but maybe that have changed, looking forward to see it. | 09:14 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : So did you not start it up to now? | 09:14 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : I mean the alpha? | 09:14 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: not yet. The package installer succeeded fine though. | 09:14 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : This is what I've seen today: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/11188.html | 09:15 |
| _StefanS_ | looks like it yes. | 09:15 |
| _StefanS_ | even the question mark icon left third position ;) | 09:15 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Have you ever tried avahi in feisty | 09:16 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: nope, not really | 09:16 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: supposed to something like upnp I guess, never had the incentive to use it :) | 09:16 |
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| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : I'd like to play kbattleship over it. Just to be able to say, that i have played kbattleship over avahi :-) | 09:17 |
| _StefanS_ | wow that sounds useful :) | 09:18 |
| _StefanS_ | I dont do games so much in kde... have a wii and ps3 for that kind of thing ;) | 09:18 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Wow that sounded ironic | 09:18 |
| _StefanS_ | :) | 09:18 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : It seems that is the only very_low_overhead_directly_in_front_of_your_nose_avahi app. | 09:19 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : I don't want to set up a avahi share thing just to share my handful of mp3s | 09:20 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: yea, it really seems...ehm... useful. | 09:20 |
| _StefanS_ | like putting an extra windshield on a car or something. | 09:21 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : don't you have a extra windshield on your get one pay three car? | 09:22 |
| _StefanS_ | touch :) | 09:22 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : You are totally right it is not useful, silly overhead (shutdown dns). But i think it's worth to try once. Just for fun. | 09:26 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: yes definitely, you might get an idea to create a new fork of it called haiku or something :) | 09:27 |
| _StefanS_ | avahi and haiku | 09:27 |
| === _StefanS_ _is_ cranky today. | ||
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : I'll create a fork called ihava where you need maximum configuration. Also known as infiniconf :-) | 09:28 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: that will get the advanced users busy :D | 09:28 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : And it will be the new keyfeature of brainfuck os :-) | 09:29 |
| _StefanS_ | hehe | 09:29 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: haha it started by crashing the ksmserver.. | 09:30 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : Or my tests will bring up tons of problems and bugreports like my bluetooth experiment | 09:30 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: thats real alpha stuff for you ;) | 09:30 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : My middle name is segmentation fault :-9 | 09:32 |
| _StefanS_ | rbrunhuber: righto. Then its the way to go.. somehow the window manager seems borked | 09:32 |
| _StefanS_ | nevermind, I have to do some work. Then I'm going to play resistance: FoM :D | 09:33 |
| rbrunhuber | _StefanS_ : CU. | 09:33 |
| _StefanS_ | yessir. | 09:33 |
| ScottK | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2797 | 09:42 |
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